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davep

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« Reply #465 on: March 02, 2016, 09:17:12 am »
I'm not particularly fond of Hillary.  But I don't understand why intelligent, thoughtful people would prefer Trump to Hillary.

I agree.  But I also don't understand why intelligent, thoughtful people would prefer Hillary to Trump.  They would both be equally horrible.  It is rather like choosing which incurable cancer you wish to die from.

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« Reply #466 on: March 02, 2016, 09:43:19 am »
Interesting juxtaposition of Trump and Goldwater:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/01/opinions/trump-vs-goldwater-zelizer/index.html


My guess of how it would play out.  Trump would fail to unify the Republicans and a larger than normal percentage won't vote for him, maybe 80% of registered Republicans.  This would lead to a fairly large win for Hillary.  People like myself will realize voting for a 3rd party is a vote for Hillary will make sure that they vote for Republicans for the Senate and House leaving a fairly split Senate and Republican House which leads to very little getting done for 4 years.

davep

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« Reply #467 on: March 02, 2016, 09:57:32 am »
The winning President is an extremely strong draw for both Senators and Congressmen.  If Hillary wins the Presidency, I think it is extremely likely that the Democrats will win back the Senate.  And the House has not shown itself to be willing to stand firm on it's principles in the face of media attack.

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« Reply #468 on: March 02, 2016, 10:15:47 am »
Decent chance the Democrats take the Senate no matter what happens with the Presidential election.  It would take a fairly large Republican wave to keep it.  Too many Republicans are running in blue and purple states this cycle.

What has the House passed other than a budget?  Shutting down the government for months doesn't sound like an appealing option.

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« Reply #469 on: March 02, 2016, 10:58:11 am »
Just wondering, what do you Nebraska people think about Ben Sasse?  He's kind of impressed me lately with how strongly he's come out against Trump.  He's one of the few Republicans in Washington who's had the guts to take a strong stand against Trump, and he's done a nice job articulating the case against him.  I'm just wondering if he's worth my time thinking about as a possibility for 2020. 

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« Reply #470 on: March 02, 2016, 11:03:38 am »
The odds that Chris Christie will be Trump's running mate have to be pretty good right now.

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« Reply #471 on: March 02, 2016, 11:39:12 am »
Just wondering, what do you Nebraska people think about Ben Sasse?  He's kind of impressed me lately with how strongly he's come out against Trump.  He's one of the few Republicans in Washington who's had the guts to take a strong stand against Trump, and he's done a nice job articulating the case against him.  I'm just wondering if he's worth my time thinking about as a possibility for 2020. 

I can't speak for all of Nebraska, but I like him a lot.  He is smart and media savy.  His tweets during the Washington DC snow storm were hilarious when he was stuck on a train.  I would consider him to be Ted Cruz without the creepy personality and poor political judgement (shut down over Obamacare for example).

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« Reply #472 on: March 02, 2016, 11:42:06 am »
Interesting juxtaposition of Trump and Goldwater:

I mentioned that comparison to a co-worker the other day. (His only response was, "How old are you, anyway"?)

My guess is that Clinton will win convincingly, and people will want to blame Trump.  But really Trump is just the symptom, not the cause. Trump is just the puss oozing from an infection.  Ironically Ted Cruz is the Republican Party's last best hope, and yet it is Cruz and his Tea Party ilk who are much more responsible for the present dysfunction of government and the corresponding anger of voters. Come November, when the Republicans lose, there will be  much finger pointing. But the sensible Republican will understand that they have met the enemy and he is us.

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« Reply #473 on: March 02, 2016, 11:44:22 am »
Not me.

DelMarFan

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« Reply #474 on: March 02, 2016, 01:05:59 pm »
I think I'm buying into the argument that Trump is the Frankenstein's monster that the Republican party created.  Reap what you sow.

I loved the John Oliver take on Trump.  It should be required viewing.

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« Reply #475 on: March 02, 2016, 01:39:21 pm »
I think I'm buying into the argument that Trump is the Frankenstein's monster that the Republican party created.  Reap what you sow.

I loved the John Oliver take on Trump.  It should be required viewing.

There are a fair amount of Trump voters that could also be Sanders voters, so I don't think it is just a Republican issue.  Trump is just has more of a draw then a Senator from Vermont.

Agree on John Oliver.  I wonder how much papa Drumpf left Donald?  It might be possible that adjusting for inflation Donald J Drumpf has lost money vs making it.

www.DonaldJDrumpf.com

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« Reply #476 on: March 02, 2016, 02:35:15 pm »
Is there a bigger narcissist in the world than Donald Trump?  Maybe Kanye West?

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« Reply #477 on: March 02, 2016, 02:38:34 pm »
Is there a bigger narcissist in the world than Donald Trump?  Maybe Kanye West?

Definitely Kanye.

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« Reply #478 on: March 02, 2016, 02:43:50 pm »
I think everything is going exactly as Bill, Hillary, and Donald planned.

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« Reply #479 on: March 02, 2016, 02:45:33 pm »
Latest poll shows 6 out of 10 Republicans feel betrayed by their party and have no one to support this fall.