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CurtOne

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« Reply #525 on: March 16, 2016, 06:33:44 pm »
I have never questioned Hiroshima.  I have misgivings about Nagasaki.

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« Reply #526 on: March 16, 2016, 07:21:10 pm »
The really horrible thing about Hiroshima and Nagasaki is not the bombs themselves. Destroying cities and annihilating civilians was, by the summer 1945, a common event. Literally millions of civilians had died from allied bombing before Hiroshima.  As for pure killing ability, the only novel thing the A-Bomb provided was efficiency.

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« Reply #527 on: March 16, 2016, 07:56:32 pm »
Dresden, Tokyo and Berlin all had bombing raids that killed as many in one raid as either of the Atomic Bombs did.

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« Reply #528 on: March 16, 2016, 08:03:42 pm »
It took about 3000 allied aircraft, over several days to bomb Hamburg.  People literally melted from the ensuing firestorm. 

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« Reply #529 on: March 16, 2016, 08:05:11 pm »
Wow.  I don't know what kind of childhood you had, but in mine, I don't think that there was a single school kid that didn't know that we had dropped an atomic bomb on Japan.  And everyone I knew also seemed to know that we were at war in Viet Nam.  It is quite possible that many of them didn't now what napalm was, but I'm not sure what difference that makes.  I didn't know what specific weapons we used in Korea, but I was pretty sure that we used some.

In third grade my bet is that most kids did not know the nuclear bombs also vaporized schools and all of the children in them.  I was quite aware we bombed Japan.  I believe it was Jr. High before I learned that at east one of them was dropped on a school full of children, and our use of napalm in bombing village was not even known by many adults until this wonderful photo from 1972http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2015_44/836396/kim-phuc-inline-3-102715_5f1b58e53f930a6c1ac76fe2e7991806.today-inline-large.jpg

Perhaps FDISK was not in 3rd grade until 1972 or 1973, but I thought he was at least a couple of years older than that.

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« Reply #530 on: March 16, 2016, 08:11:15 pm »
Jes, you don't drop a nuclear bomb on a school.  You drop it on a school district.

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« Reply #531 on: March 17, 2016, 05:49:31 am »
If Rubio had been as eloquent in the debates as he was in his suspension speech, he might have won.

If the dog hadn't stopped to ****, he wold have caught the rabbit.

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« Reply #532 on: March 22, 2016, 01:33:56 pm »

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« Reply #533 on: March 22, 2016, 01:39:20 pm »
I'm not sure Trump should talk about a well run company.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-worse-than-you-think-trumps-business-disaster-2016-03-04

I was going to make an easy Curt is old joke about the Cubs being well run, but I thought I'd let it go this time.
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JR

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« Reply #534 on: March 22, 2016, 02:30:29 pm »
I'm not sure Trump should talk about a well run company.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-worse-than-you-think-trumps-business-disaster-2016-03-04

I was going to make an easy Curt is old joke about the Cubs being well run, but I thought I'd let it go this time.

It's amazing the Republicans never ran ads on that from the get go.  That has everything you'd want to turn off prospective Republican primary voters, from failure of a public corporation to running a seedy gambling enterprise (which you wouldn't think would turn off evangelicals, but nothing else he's done or said has done that up to this point). 

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« Reply #535 on: March 22, 2016, 02:36:21 pm »
Not to mention that his casinos and hotels are 80% staffed with immigrants.  Wanna bet they're all legal?

Trump looked at the candidates in both parties and decided the Republican party would be the easiest to hijack.  All he had to do is get 24 to 30% of the vote in the early primaries and he'd be the favorite.  The only time he has considered office he was going to run as a third party candidate, and most of his donations have gone to Democrats.  This whole thing is the biggest hoax ever pulled.  Any time now, Ashton Kutcher is going to jump out and says, "USA, you just got punked."

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« Reply #536 on: March 22, 2016, 02:45:54 pm »
It's amazing the Republicans never ran ads on that from the get go.  That has everything you'd want to turn off prospective Republican primary voters, from failure of a public corporation to running a seedy gambling enterprise (which you wouldn't think would turn off evangelicals, but nothing else he's done or said has done that up to this point). 

I don't think they could have done it even if they wanted to.  Trump has a brand and trying to take that brand apart would have been difficult, especially when he gets all the free media that he wants.  In early debates it might have worked, but he would have just played it off as the media is picking on me and his supporters wouldn't have cared. 

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« Reply #537 on: March 22, 2016, 02:47:56 pm »
Not to mention that his casinos and hotels are 80% staffed with immigrants.  Wanna bet they're all legal?

Trump looked at the candidates in both parties and decided the Republican party would be the easiest to hijack.  All he had to do is get 24 to 30% of the vote in the early primaries and he'd be the favorite.  The only time he has considered office he was going to run as a third party candidate, and most of his donations have gone to Democrats.  This whole thing is the biggest hoax ever pulled.  Any time now, Ashton Kutcher is going to jump out and says, "USA, you just got punked."

One thing that's been interesting to me lately has been all the willing accomplices in this.  CNN has been in the tank for Trump winning the Republican nomination from the beginning.  In the conservative media where you would think they wouldn't be propping up someone who's not that conservative like Trump, Drudge Report, Breitbart, and Daily Caller have pretty much been Trump PR outlets. 

Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have been propping him up too, although for them, it makes a lot of business sense.  They get Trump inflated ratings for their shows in the near term the more they talk about him and defend him, and in the long term, they get to trash Hillary for four years while still getting to bemoan that the Republicans haven't nominated a "true" conservative since Reagan.

It's bizarre that all of these outlets that ought to be bringing down a complete dangerous fraud like Trump are very much responsible for promoting him and keeping him afloat.
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« Reply #538 on: March 22, 2016, 03:15:37 pm »
MSNBC has been calling out Trump pretty much all along.

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« Reply #539 on: March 22, 2016, 03:56:41 pm »
MSNBC has been calling out Trump pretty much all along.

They have.  And they have been doing a reasonably good job of it.  Unfortunately their ratings are so low they reach nearly no one.