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davep

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« Reply #615 on: September 01, 2016, 11:51:23 am »
Venting?

Venting?

The guy did not stand.

That's a strange vent.  And so far I have seen not one comment from him which could be described as even arguably being "against the principles that will allow positive change."

vent 1  (vĕnt) n. 1. Forceful expression or release of pent-up thoughts or feelings: give vent to one's anger.

Standing is probably not venting.

Talking to the press in the interview that I heard probably is.

CUBluejays

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« Reply #616 on: September 01, 2016, 06:30:18 pm »
He has some pretty nifty police pig socks he wears to practice too.

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« Reply #617 on: September 01, 2016, 07:24:02 pm »
Gotta wonder if he has exhausted other means of effecting change in the system...

Like contacting his representatives would do any good...

Is there some requirement that a person first exhaust all other means of effecting change in the system before a silent, perfectly respectful protest?

I don't recall ever seeing it?  Is that part of the hidden language of the First Amendment?

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« Reply #618 on: September 01, 2016, 07:28:26 pm »
vent 1  (vĕnt) n. 1. Forceful expression or release of pent-up thoughts or feelings: give vent to one's anger.

Standing is probably not venting.

Talking to the press in the interview that I heard probably is.

Perhaps.  I have not listened to any interview with him and have so far only seen and read printed quotes from him from the comments he made when initially asked questions about why he did not stand.  In reading it, the comments seemed rather reserved, nothing forceful at all.

davep

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« Reply #619 on: September 01, 2016, 10:48:25 pm »
He certainly has the right to conduct a peaceful protest, just as others have the right to conduct a peaceful protest against his actions.  Do you feel that they do not have that right?  Or has the counter protest been violent?  I haven't followed it since the interview I saw.

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« Reply #620 on: September 01, 2016, 11:22:36 pm »
He certainly has the right to conduct a peaceful protest, just as others have the right to conduct a peaceful protest against his actions.  Do you feel that they do not have that right?  Or has the counter protest been violent?  I haven't followed it since the interview I saw.

Do you have some reason to ask that I believe those complaining about him do not have that right?  Could you point to anything I have written where I might have suggested that?  This is not a challenge, or an effort to argue, but instead an effort to improve my writing so I avoid any such reasonable conclusion in the future.... assuming your question was actually reasonable.

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« Reply #621 on: September 02, 2016, 10:23:13 am »
Can you tell me where I stated that you believe that those expressing their complaints do not have the right to do so?  I asked a question.  I did not make a judgement.

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« Reply #622 on: September 02, 2016, 06:24:56 pm »
Do you have some reason to ask that I believe those complaining about him do not have that right?  Could you point to anything I have written where I might have suggested that?  This is not a challenge, or an effort to argue, but instead an effort to improve my writing so I avoid any such reasonable conclusion in the future.... assuming your question was actually reasonable.

Can you tell me where I stated that you believe that those expressing their complaints do not have the right to do so?  I asked a question.  I did not make a judgement.

I did not write that you stated that I "believe that those expressing their complaints do not have the right to do so."  I also never suggested you were not asking a question.  Instead I  asked if you had "some reason to ask that I believe those complaining about him do not have that right."  Nowhere is there even a suggestion that you lacked the "right to do so."  Your question only made sense if there was something I had written which would lead a reasonably sane person to think I had at least suggested that a person did not have "the right to conduct a peaceful protest," hence my question to you: Could you point to anything I have written where I might have suggested that?

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« Reply #623 on: September 02, 2016, 07:35:06 pm »
Smh...

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« Reply #624 on: September 02, 2016, 07:51:34 pm »
Let me know when Jes tells us Trump or Hillary is toast

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« Reply #625 on: September 03, 2016, 06:05:24 am »
America is toast.

davep

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« Reply #626 on: September 03, 2016, 09:46:45 am »
Hillary is going to win in a landslide.  More Electoral votes than her husband had in either of his two victories.

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« Reply #627 on: September 03, 2016, 09:48:27 am »
I don't know.  The race has tightened significantly over the past 1-2 weeks.  If Trump is perceived as being strong in the debates, he's got a real chance.

davep

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« Reply #628 on: September 03, 2016, 09:54:28 am »
Much of the Republican establishment is refusing to support him.  And that is where the money comes from to run a campaign.  He will lose in Ohio, North Carolina and Florida, which pretty much makes the rest of the country meaningless.  Is there a Democratic state that is going to swing to Trump?  I don't see any.

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« Reply #629 on: September 03, 2016, 10:13:13 am »
It's pretty much dead even in Ohio and North Carolina, and Hillary's lead in Florida is razor thin.  It's an uphill battle for Trump, but Nate Silver has his odds of winning at better than 30%.