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« Reply #645 on: September 27, 2016, 05:11:56 am »
A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.
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« Reply #646 on: September 27, 2016, 06:56:14 am »
A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

One of my favorite lines....

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« Reply #647 on: September 27, 2016, 01:30:33 pm »
I just said that to get people here fired up.

I honestly don't give a **** and don't like either one of them.

I will vote because that's what a grown man is supposed to do but I'm not in the tax bracket that the results of this election is gonna effect me,I'm too old to get drafted, and I'm not looking for a handout from the government so other than having to hear their mouth for the next 4 years its no sweat off my sack.
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« Reply #648 on: September 27, 2016, 02:10:41 pm »
I'm reminded of the debates between Nixon and Kennedy.  Most agreed that Nixon won the debate, but the public was turned off by Nixon's 5 o'clock shadow.

Last night, Hillary, who's been told she doesn't smile enough, managed a big phony smile too often.  I thought she presented herself better than Trump, didn't repeat herself, and didn't toot her own horn as much as Donald, but every time she flashed that big toothy smile that was so fake, it turned me off.  I haven't heard anybody else comment on it, so maybe it's just me.

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« Reply #649 on: September 27, 2016, 02:17:45 pm »
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because that's what a grown man is supposed to do

No, a grown man should become educated enough about the issues to make a sensible choice.  If your attitude is what you claimed, do us all a favor and don't vote.

Dusty, you're not saying anything different from how something like half of America feels, but I'm talking about all of them, too.  We'd be better off if they didn't vote.
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« Reply #650 on: September 27, 2016, 02:28:15 pm »
I would certainly have the quality of a candidate's smile high on my list of determining factors in casting my vote.

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« Reply #651 on: September 27, 2016, 03:05:55 pm »
Or sighing.

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« Reply #652 on: September 27, 2016, 03:28:19 pm »
I would certainly have the quality of a candidate's smile high on my list of determining factors in casting my vote.
P2, it wasn't the smile.  It was how fake and insincere it looked.  Play-acting.  You seem to dismiss the fact that people dislike Hillary because they feel she isn't honest and trustworthy.  An insincere smile doesn't help her.  BTW, since I posted that I've overheard some people in the grocery story that actually mentioned it.  Please go back to my original post.  Do you think whether a guy shaved before the event should influence your vote?  Me either, but in 1960 it did.

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« Reply #653 on: September 27, 2016, 04:15:28 pm »
I would say that phoney smiles are about a important in a political race as 20 year old comments about flat chested women.

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« Reply #654 on: September 27, 2016, 04:27:32 pm »
Question.  Who was the last President to have facial hair?

Jes Beard

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« Reply #655 on: September 27, 2016, 04:49:47 pm »
I will vote because that's what a grown man is supposed to do but I'm not in the tax bracket that the results of this election is gonna effect me,I'm too old to get drafted, and I'm not looking for a handout from the government so other than having to hear their mouth for the next 4 years its no sweat off my sack.

Yeah.... but why are YOU voting?

The idea that the outcome of the election will only effect you if you would be in a tax bracket likely to pay higher taxes, or if you are young enough to be drafted if we go to war (we no longer have a draft, but if we have another war comparable to WWII you are not too old to end up drafted), or if you are looking for a handout indicates you really haven't thought much about this.

Did the recession of 2008-2009 effect you?  Would higher prices on nearly everything you buy effect you?  Would an end of our constitutional republic effect you?  Would full-blown, single-payer, nationalized health care and socialized medicine effect you?  Would more or fewer government regulations on business effect you?

And does something have to directly effect you before you care about it?  Would you have been one of those in 1860 who if you were not a slave or a slave owner didn't care whether slavery continued or was ended?

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« Reply #656 on: September 27, 2016, 04:51:06 pm »
Question.  Who was the last President to have facial hair?

Nixon if we count the five o'clock shadow.  Taft otherwise.

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« Reply #657 on: September 27, 2016, 04:51:50 pm »
Taft had a mustache.

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« Reply #658 on: September 27, 2016, 05:21:16 pm »
Right.  And I think Teddy had one too, but historians have claimed that Dewey lost to Truman because his mustache reminded people too much of Hitler.  Fact?  Maybe, but no politician since has had any.  My simple point is that not all people vote rationally.  Mustaches, smiles, 5 o'clock shadows, Clinton pursing his lips, Gore wandering over to Bush's podium...none of these things should matter, but they do.  How about the Johnson ad that was anti-Goldwater showing a nuclear explosion...should that have been as effective, considering that Goldwater had never (to my knowledge) advocated that kind of violence?

So, would it be silly to vote for or against someone because of a smirk or a smile, yes...but it will still happen.

I also am tired of being told that since I will vote for neither of these people, I'm wasting my vote.  Using that logic, whenever someone votes for the loser in an election, it must be a wasted vote.  We should all wait and see what the poll says in November and vote for the one who is going to win to avoid wasting our vote.  Irrational.  I think not voting my conscience and for someone I think would be a good President is wasting my vote.

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« Reply #659 on: September 27, 2016, 06:46:35 pm »
Jes...

Call me a name or make fun of me or whatever you want but my mom says all the time that I'm a very simple man.

Feed me good at night, give me a roof over my head, give me a Playstation to play in my down time, and let me play golf on my days off and Ill never complain.

I do the things a man's supposed to do like keep a job and be a good Christian man,husband, and daddy and keep my yard up but other than that I'm very easy to please.

In being an easy to please, laid back, man I've learned to choose my battles wisely and if it does not effect me or my family I truthfully don't give a ****.

The majority of the things this election is based around doesn't even mean as much to me as UT beating Georgia Saturday.