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JR

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« Reply #720 on: November 08, 2016, 12:44:00 pm »
Well for everyone who's worried about a Trump presidency, you should be able to rest easy.  Trump's chances are so bad, they're close to the chances the Cubs had of winning the World Series after they lost Game 4. 

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-cubs-have-a-smaller-chance-of-winning-than-trump-does/

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« Reply #721 on: November 08, 2016, 12:44:22 pm »
The United States of America has screwed the pooch.

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« Reply #722 on: November 08, 2016, 01:08:28 pm »
But you all watch and see.

Our lives will change very little no matter who wins.

This is just another day to watch the world argue, stress, and riot.

If it wasn't election day it would be because a cop shot some deserving thug.

CurtOne

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« Reply #723 on: November 08, 2016, 01:08:51 pm »
I'm pulling for neither to get to 270.  My odds are very very bad.

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« Reply #724 on: November 08, 2016, 01:10:04 pm »
"If it wasn't election day it would be because a cop shot some deserving thug."

Dusty has a lot in common with Forrest Gump.

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« Reply #725 on: November 08, 2016, 01:14:53 pm »
Why you say that Curt?

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« Reply #726 on: November 08, 2016, 01:30:02 pm »
You state blunt truths as you see the world.

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« Reply #727 on: November 08, 2016, 03:52:02 pm »
But you all watch and see.

Our lives will change very little no matter who wins.

This is just another day to watch the world argue, stress, and riot.

If it wasn't election day it would be because a cop shot some deserving thug.
In some ways I agree Dusty, but in others I don't.  I am a health insurance broker and watching people filing into my office day after day having to make the choice between paying for health insurance or eat, isn't fun.  Oh and if they can't afford it they get to pay a penalty for a couple of 5% of their income.  This year the premiums are going up on average 30% over last year.  People today are paying nearly double what they were just a few short years ago.  That is a direct result of the election of 2008.  Millions are affected by this disaster of a law.  Even the poor who make too much for Medicaid but not enough for a subsidy, (yes, there is a gap) are being punished for not having insurance by taking away a minimum of $695 this year.  It's a train wreck, and there is no end in sight because Hilary won't repeal it once she gets in.  And if any of you think Trump can win I've got some desert property to sell you.

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« Reply #728 on: November 08, 2016, 04:21:15 pm »
The costs of health care were going up rapidly well before the ACA.

Is the ACA the best way to manage the costs of health care?  Probably not, but to point at Obama and say it's all his fault is naive and/or specious.

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« Reply #729 on: November 08, 2016, 04:24:20 pm »
The health care companies spending more than a million dollars a day lobbying Congress have nothing to do with why it is not working as well as it should.  Yeah, right.

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« Reply #730 on: November 08, 2016, 04:48:52 pm »
It was set up to fail from the beginning. The penalty/tax is too low to force people to buy insurance causing the healthy to avoid it. The things people have to buy to meet Obamacare minimums are too great and drive up the price. More and more people are being driven to high deductible plans, but HSA were gutted. It was a crappy law. It had nothing to do insurance companies or Republicans, it was all on the Democrats.

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« Reply #731 on: November 08, 2016, 04:49:03 pm »
Well for everyone who's worried about a Trump presidency, you should be able to rest easy.  Trump's chances are so bad, they're close to the chances the Cubs had of winning the World Series after they lost Game 4. 

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-cubs-have-a-smaller-chance-of-winning-than-trump-does/

Silver revised that this weekend to give Trump about a 40% chance of winning.

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« Reply #732 on: November 08, 2016, 04:51:25 pm »
About 30% as of now.

Jes Beard

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« Reply #733 on: November 08, 2016, 04:55:37 pm »
But you all watch and see.

Our lives will change very little no matter who wins.

Health care (in other words expanding or ending ObamaCare), trade wars, real wars, restricting abortion versus expanding abortion and having the government pay for it, a recession as opposed to a strong economy, or even just a continued slow economy as opposed to strong growth, an expansion of gun control to the point you can no longer buy ammo or new guns for a reasonable price, citizenship to 11M illegals who would almost all vote for liberal Democrats or mass deportations.... all of those are very real things, some of which are likely to happen under one, but not the other.

Of course, if you think none of those things make any difference in your life, or you think they qualify as "very little.... change," you might be right.

Jes Beard

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« Reply #734 on: November 08, 2016, 04:56:19 pm »
About 30% as of now.

Still much better than the Cubs' chances down 3-1.