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craig

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« Reply #810 on: November 09, 2016, 01:33:34 pm »
Will this be the first Republican president with Republican majorities in both Senate and House since Hoover?  Democrats have periodically had all three, but I can't recall any Republican control in our lifetimes. 

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« Reply #811 on: November 09, 2016, 01:49:03 pm »
No, I believe George W. Bush had that a couple times.

CurtOne

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« Reply #812 on: November 09, 2016, 01:49:41 pm »
This is the first Democrat President who calls himself a Republican to have both Houses.

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« Reply #813 on: November 09, 2016, 02:09:37 pm »
Say goodbye to Roe v Wade decision.. If you voted for Kim Jung Un.. I've got the best bridge for you to buy. It's the greatest quality bridge. Top notch. @#&%.

I have a singular rule: never underestimate the colossal stupidity of people. And i fu@#ing had a modicum of faith.. Well.. That's gone.

PT Barnum is our new overlord

I had new found optimism with the Cubs winning.. Now.. FU@#!
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Dave23

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« Reply #814 on: November 09, 2016, 02:30:21 pm »
DJIA up 300+ right now...

Robb

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« Reply #815 on: November 09, 2016, 02:34:27 pm »
Say goodbye to Roe v Wade decision.. If you voted for Kim Jung Un.. I've got the best bridge for you to buy. It's the greatest quality bridge. Top notch. @#&%.

I have a singular rule: never underestimate the colossal stupidity of people. And i fu@#ing had a modicum of faith.. Well.. That's gone.

PT Barnum is our new overlord

I had new found optimism with the Cubs winning.. Now.. FU@#!

Is the killing of unborn babies that important to you?

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« Reply #816 on: November 09, 2016, 03:11:04 pm »
The impression I get today is that good triumphed over evil and that the working class took back control over their country today.

I noticed the neighbor has an American flag flying too.

Its completely different than the tone here today and over the last several months.

I guess some here really took Trump's comments about the Ricketts clan to heart.

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« Reply #817 on: November 09, 2016, 03:21:13 pm »
That's how they felt in Zimbabwe when Mugabe took over.

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« Reply #818 on: November 09, 2016, 03:34:26 pm »
I finally came up with the name I've been trying to remember for several weeks

Full Definition of Hobson's choice
1   an apparently free choice when there is no real alternative
2:  the necessity of accepting one of two or more equally objectionable alternatives
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« Reply #819 on: November 09, 2016, 03:37:46 pm »
My son, not a Trump supporter, claims that we need to relax because he perceives that Trump was putting on a show to garner publicity.  Free publicity.  The more outrageous things he said, the more coverage he got.  Obviously, he didn't plan the "****" tape, but I doubt he meant everything he said.   As a "change" candidate, he now will have to answer all those angry people who elected him why the wall's not being built, why Hillary is not being investigated by a special prosecutor and going to jail, why the immigration problem isn't fixed, why the Iran deal is not undone, why businesses are still going to China and Mexico, and why he still won't reveal his tax returns.

I'm sure he got some votes from anti-feminists and from racial bigots, but that doesn't explain the huge swing to him.  The irony is that what some comedians said turned out to be true: a lot of people who were voting Trump lied to polsters our of embarrassment. 

I was mentally set for a Hillary presidency and figured, oh, well, the worst she can do is continue to rob us blind and continue lying.  We can survive that for 4 years.  I'm going to need time to soak in the new reality.

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« Reply #820 on: November 09, 2016, 03:43:52 pm »
The thing I found interesting during his speech was when he said for the next 2, 3, 4 years we're going to blah blah blah.  Is it possible he might govern for a few years and then step down to go back to his businesses?  I would love it as Pence would be a much better option.  Trump can then say he didn't need 4 years to do what he wanted.  I'm not sure this guy even wants to be President all that much. 

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« Reply #821 on: November 09, 2016, 03:50:11 pm »
Pence is a much worse option.  Unless, of course, you want fetus funerals, gay conversion therapy, and creation museums in every state. Then he's awesome.
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« Reply #822 on: November 09, 2016, 03:53:20 pm »
The thing I found interesting during his speech was when he said for the next 2, 3, 4 years we're going to blah blah blah.  Is it possible he might govern for a few years and then step down to go back to his businesses?  I would love it as Pence would be a much better option.  Trump can then say he didn't need 4 years to do what he wanted.  I'm not sure this guy even wants to be President all that much. 
Maybe he realizes that when he's done nothing he can't be reelected.

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« Reply #823 on: November 09, 2016, 04:08:49 pm »
you want fetus funerals

That really isn't fair to what the law Pence signed does.  The law requires hospitals/abortion clinics to not dump fetal tissue in landfills.  They need to either incinerate or interred.  It makes it illegal to dump fetal tissue into landfills.   The only time their would be a "fetus funeral" is if the parents wanted to have one.

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« Reply #824 on: November 09, 2016, 04:10:22 pm »
I still don't buy that Trump supporters were too embarrassed to tell pollsters who they were voting for.  I haven't met a shy Trump supporter yet.  In all the clips I saw of televised Trump rallies (with thousands and thousands of people in attendance), I never saw anyone trying to hide his or her face from the camera.  So I just don't think there's any chance they would have any problem telling an anonymous pollster who they have never met (and never will meet) that they were planning to vote for Trump.

So far, Trump's popular vote total is still behind Romney and McCain.  I don't think Trump really outperformed the polls.  It was just that Clinton wasn't inspiring enough to get Millennials off the couch yesterday, so she significantly underperformed the polls.

I agree with Cletus that Pence is a terrible far, far right social conservative...Clinton probably should have focused a little more on him because Millennials will turn out to vote on social issues.  I worry a lot about the input he will likely have on choosing Supreme Court justices.