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CurtOne

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« Reply #840 on: November 09, 2016, 07:16:31 pm »
I think the Obamacare huge price jumps announced a week before the election hurt Hillary far more than the emails,   it's the economy, stupid.  People don't care about womanizing, lying, lousy language, or bad judgement,  but you start taking money out of their pockets...
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« Reply #841 on: November 09, 2016, 07:54:45 pm »
You know how to stop these protests?

Tear gas, fire hoses, and shotguns.

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« Reply #842 on: November 09, 2016, 08:01:21 pm »
As long as people don't use them as an excuse to riot or damage property, no reason to do any of that.
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« Reply #843 on: November 09, 2016, 08:08:53 pm »
I assume you meant dose and not does.  And no it does not embody a healthy dose of hatred.  Not even close to what Drumpf was doling out.

"Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em up like bacon" does not embody hatred?

And how do you think that Hillary and liberalism in general embody hatred?

The claims that conservative or Republicans want to poison people or push granny off a cliff embody no hatred?  The "white privilege" nonsense and class warfare blaming "the greedy one-percenters" embody no hatred?  The "basket of deplorables" embodies no hatred?  Your use of "Drumpf" embodies no hatred?

Are you for real?

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« Reply #844 on: November 09, 2016, 08:15:02 pm »
You know how to stop these protests?

Tear gas, fire hoses, and shotguns.

"These protests"?

What protests?

Does Dusty want to use tear gas and shotguns on Colin Kaepernick?

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« Reply #845 on: November 09, 2016, 08:19:28 pm »
This could last all night.

These are the people who don't have jobs to go to in the morning.

You know they're wired up on all the free medication they get too.

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« Reply #846 on: November 09, 2016, 08:30:28 pm »
it's the First Amendment Dusty

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« Reply #847 on: November 09, 2016, 08:43:19 pm »
You know how to stop these protests?

Tear gas, fire hoses, and shotguns.

You were born in the wrong era.  Though, Trump and his supporters are going to try their hardest to get us back to those days.
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« Reply #848 on: November 09, 2016, 08:46:26 pm »
I'm honestly just trying to get you all fired up.

I care less about this and know less about this than anyone here and I'm man enough to admit it.

Im truthfully not a republican or a democrat and didn't like either candidate.

I voted for Rubio in the primaries.

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« Reply #849 on: November 10, 2016, 02:15:30 pm »
Heh.  California threatening to secede.  Didn't Texas do the same thing after Obama was elected?  Won't happen.  All those folks in California would have to get passports to go to Vegas and Reno.

The Democratic party would have the most to lose.  Big Blue State.

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« Reply #850 on: November 10, 2016, 02:59:05 pm »
Heh.  California threatening to secede.  Didn't Texas do the same thing after Obama was elected?  Won't happen.  All those folks in California would have to get passports to go to Vegas and Reno.

The Democratic party would have the most to lose.  Big Blue State.

I've read about that too.  Just assuming a state like that or say Vermont really truly wanted to secede, I wonder how the federal government or a President Trump would react to that.  One of the crazy #calexit articles I read mentioned that secession would be a legal thing for them to do, and that's not how the federal government has viewed it historically.  I'm reading Jon Meacham's biography of Andrew Jackson right now (By the way, I get the feeling Trump would have a lot in common with Andrew Jackson.), and he considered secession and nullification of federal laws to be illegal.  Abraham Lincoln considered secession to be illegal. 

You'd think in the 21st century that you wouldn't resort to force to bring them back, but the federal government can't just let them walk. 

It's never likely to happen anyway, but that's a thought that's always crossed my mind a time or two whenever secession talk like that gets brought up.

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« Reply #851 on: November 10, 2016, 03:13:24 pm »
I've read about that too.  Just assuming a state like that or say Vermont really truly wanted to secede, I wonder how the federal government or a President Trump would react to that.  One of the crazy #calexit articles I read mentioned that secession would be a legal thing for them to do, and that's not how the federal government has viewed it historically.  I'm reading Jon Meacham's biography of Andrew Jackson right now (By the way, I get the feeling Trump would have a lot in common with Andrew Jackson.), and he considered secession and nullification of federal laws to be illegal.  Abraham Lincoln considered secession to be illegal. 

You'd think in the 21st century that you wouldn't resort to force to bring them back, but the federal government can't just let them walk. 

It's never likely to happen anyway, but that's a thought that's always crossed my mind a time or two whenever secession talk like that gets brought up.

Well if California is going to break away I would imagine that Northern California and other red parts of the state aren't going to want to follow would be 1 part of the problem.  The bigger problem is how is California going to get water.  I really doubt President Trump is going to continue allow California to have access to most of their water supplies.  If Northern California stays in the US, then the problems would be worse.

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« Reply #852 on: November 10, 2016, 03:15:12 pm »
Would California pay for the wall between them and the U.S.?

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« Reply #853 on: November 10, 2016, 03:25:49 pm »
Actually seceding is a nonstarter, of course, but I completely understand the desire to decouple ourselves from the misogynist racists and/or rubes who think Trump as president is a good idea.  Right now I'm ashamed of being from the Midwest.
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« Reply #854 on: November 10, 2016, 03:59:26 pm »
I think you need to be a little more charitable.  Where there misogynist and racists that voted for Trump?  Yes.  They weren't the majority.  There are multiple reasons for voting for him that don't include either of those.  Calling people rubes is also pretty offensive.