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The civil war started when South Carolina fired upon Federal troops in Fort Sumpter.  Since you know everything, you must know that.  Of course, facts mean nothing to you unless they support your agenda of the day.

Not really, despite the northern effort to spin it that way.  No Union troops died in the attack, and if Lincoln had not sent in troops, there would have been no war.

Here you go, Trump voters.  Here's your chance to celebrate.

Neither Trump, nor any of his inner circle, have ever been associated with the Klan, nor have they invited the Klan to have any part in the campaign or celebration.  Quite a bit different from FDR, who appointed a Klansman to the Supreme Court, or Bill Clinton, who worked very closely with a Klansman in the Senate.

The Clinton Foundation does very little actual charity work.

It donates money to The Clinton Health Initiative. There isn't a website for what this actually does.

It donates money to the Clinton Health Access Initiative. They negiotiate with companies to get low cost HIV medications. They could buy the medicine, but they don't. The lowest percentage goes to this.

They donate money to Clinton Library. I'm not sure how this is consider charity work. If you take out the overhead and the money that goes to the Clinton Library and assume that the Clinton Health Initiative is an actual charity, then less than 80% of the money goes to charity work, which is a pretty crappy percentage. This isn't Jimmy Carter and Habit for Humanity.

Clinton and Trump are two sides of the same coin. If he does something stupid he'll lose the congress and grid lock will happen. Hopefully he'll do a better job. If not it is another 4 years of doing nothing about our nations problems. Much like it was been since Clinton and the congress quit working with each other.

Where did you get your information?  This site tells a different story of the foundation:

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/

Ok then point me to a place that investigated this more than just Trump saying "I've heard from some people..."

I'm willing to be educated, just not by FoxNews. Or by Trump the liar.

sorry, left out the purple again.  Was being sarcastic.

It is not the name which shows its political leanings, but its origin, funding, and track record.  It is about as neutral as MSNBC.

I can totally understand the bitterness and feelings of loss that are being felt by many on this board right now.  I felt the same way in 2008 and 2012.  I couldn't understand how people could elect a President that so differs from my own values.  I couldn't understand how someone could pick a president who sat in sermons for 20 years as his pastor berated and condemned America, a President who had many communist friends and was a big fan of Saul Alinsky.  Especially in 2012 I grieved after the election.  I barely watched the news.  I didn't want to know what was going on.  I grieved for the country I felt had turned from me.  I totally get your feelings Delmar and Grrr and others.  I felt them 4 years ago.  I won't tell you to rally behind Trump as I didn't vote for him either.  He is a blustering buffoon who isn't anywhere near as smart as he thinks he is, which may be his most dangerous fault.   I do think labeling anyone who voted for him as deplorable, racist or fill in the blank is way out of line.  Many of my non-racist, intelligent, successful, good-natured friends voted Trump.  How dare anyone label them with such things just because they disagree politically.  There were a host of reasons to vote for Trump which had nothing to do with racism, mysogeny or any other of your labels.  Are you really suggesting that more than 55 million Americans are racist idiots?  Can your narrow world view not expand enough to include the very thought that people who don't agree with you may be normal good people too?  I realize you were venting and again, I get it.  However, your comments and labels were offensive, inappropriate an quite frankly, immature.  I don't need an apology because I didn't vote for Trump, but maybe when you calm down you can see that your behavior has sunk below the very kinds of people that you condemn. 

My final post in this topic

Trump supporters will soon be thinking of this old adage