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Robb

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« Reply #1185 on: December 13, 2016, 02:13:38 pm »
What does intelligent design belief have to do with global warming?   Since the consensus seems to be king on global warming shouldn't that also apply to intelligent design?   The vast majority of humans believe in some form of intelligent design so that makes it right.  Right?

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« Reply #1186 on: December 13, 2016, 02:16:14 pm »
Well there is intelligent design in that God made the world and there is intelligent design that the world is 6000 years old.  I'm guessing, without looking, that Roy Spencer is the 6,000 year old intelligent design.

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« Reply #1187 on: December 13, 2016, 02:26:02 pm »
Classic liberal response.  Don't mention the valid arguments posted, simply attack the messenger. 

Robb, Robb, Robb.  Really? Look what happened when I simply posted that DOE employees shouldn't be persecuted by the incoming administration.  Is that being a  liberal?


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« Reply #1188 on: December 13, 2016, 02:27:37 pm »
Scientists in the 70's were sure a new ice age was coming.

Another thing I missed in the 70's!  DAMN that Coors Light! 

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« Reply #1189 on: December 13, 2016, 02:34:37 pm »
American Meteorological Society ( A leading, nonpartisan scientific journal):

"Warming of the climate system now is unequivocal, according to many different kinds of evidence. Observations show increases in globally averaged air and ocean temperatures, as well as widespread melting of snow and ice and rising globally averaged sea level. Surface temperature data for Earth as a whole, including readings over both land and ocean, show an increase of about 0.8°C (1.4°F) over the period 1901─2010 and about 0.5°C (0.9°F) over the period 1979–2010 (the era for which satellite-based temperature data are routinely available). Due to natural variability, not every year is warmer than the preceding year globally. Nevertheless, all of the 10 warmest years in the global temperature records up to 2011 have occurred since 1997, with 2005 and 2010 being the warmest two years in more than a century of global records. The warming trend is greatest in northern high latitudes and over land. In the U.S., most of the observed warming has occurred in the West and in Alaska; for the nation as a whole, there have been twice as many record daily high temperatures as record daily low temperatures in the first decade of the 21st century.
"Climate is always changing. However, many of the observed changes noted above are beyond what can be explained by the natural variability of the climate. It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide. The most important of these over the long term is CO2, whose concentration in the atmosphere is rising principally as a result of fossil-fuel combustion and deforestation. While large amounts of CO2 enter and leave the atmosphere through natural processes, these human activities are increasing the total amount in the air and the oceans. Approximately half of the CO2 put into the atmosphere through human activity in the past 250 years has been taken up by the ocean and terrestrial biosphere, with the other half remaining in the atmosphere. Since long-term measurements began in the 1950s, the atmospheric CO2 concentration has been increasing at a rate much faster than at any time in the last 800,000 years. Having been introduced into the atmosphere it will take a thousand years for the majority of the added atmospheric CO2 to be removed by natural processes, and some will remain for thousands of subsequent years."

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« Reply #1190 on: December 13, 2016, 02:41:32 pm »
American Physical Society (Leading American Physics, peer reviewed journal)

https://www.aps.org/units/fps/newsletters/201204/manheimer.cfm
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« Reply #1191 on: December 13, 2016, 02:44:47 pm »
Well there is intelligent design in that God made the world and there is intelligent design that the world is 6000 years old.  I'm guessing, without looking, that Roy Spencer is the 6,000 year old intelligent design.
I am of the opinion that God made the Earth in 6 creative periods he called days.  How many years were those periods?  No idea.

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« Reply #1192 on: December 13, 2016, 02:45:05 pm »
American Physical Society (Leading American Physics, peer reviewed journal)

https://www.aps.org/units/fps/newsletters/201204/manheimer.cfm
It's decided!

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« Reply #1193 on: December 13, 2016, 02:49:15 pm »
NO, it's not decided.  Just more opinions. Are we to only consider the studies...the research...which supports our predetermined opinions? (Besides, if you had actually read the article, and unless you are a SUPER fast reader you didn't, you would see the author is sort of a moderate.)
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« Reply #1194 on: December 13, 2016, 02:52:01 pm »
It seems to me that the logical, rational, most careful approach would be to at least listen to experts. Unless, of course, a political agenda is more important to you than the truth.
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« Reply #1195 on: December 13, 2016, 02:57:11 pm »
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/


Run for cover, NASA scientists. They're coming for you!
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« Reply #1196 on: December 13, 2016, 02:58:12 pm »
American Association for the Advancement of Science:

"The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society." (2006)3

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« Reply #1197 on: December 13, 2016, 02:58:49 pm »
American Chemical Society:

"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem." (2004)4 ::)

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« Reply #1198 on: December 13, 2016, 02:59:17 pm »
American Geophysical Union:

"Human‐induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007, 2012, 2013)5

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« Reply #1199 on: December 13, 2016, 02:59:42 pm »
American Medical Association:

"Our AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are significant." (2013)6