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ticohans

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« Reply #4590 on: September 22, 2020, 04:05:28 pm »
Republicans: why do we have to protect minorities?

Also Republicans: the Electoral College and Senate are awesome!

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« Reply #4591 on: September 22, 2020, 04:09:07 pm »
Did you know that WY voters are effectively 40x more powerful than NY voters as it relates to the Senate?

Can you imagine the conservative outcry that would follow racial minorities enjoying that level of benefit from affirmative action?

It's pretty clear that Republicans aren't against minority protections. They're against minority protections for non-white peoples and systems.
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« Reply #4592 on: September 22, 2020, 06:36:28 pm »
Did you know that WY voters are effectively 40x more powerful than NY voters as it relates to the Senate?

Can you imagine the conservative outcry that would follow racial minorities enjoying that level of benefit from affirmative action?

It's pretty clear that Republicans aren't against minority protections. They're against minority protections for non-white peoples and systems.

even though New York contributes way more
Federal Taxes Paid by State
2   New York   $140,510,002
50   Wyoming   $3,084,085

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« Reply #4593 on: September 22, 2020, 07:37:16 pm »
How much do each receive from the federal government?

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« Reply #4594 on: September 22, 2020, 07:56:30 pm »
Also Republicans: the Electoral College and Senate are awesome!

It really is such a weird position that they take. They like the Electoral College because they're scared of a few high population states overwhelming the vote from 45 other states*. But at the same time, they love that there are only about 5 states that candidates really need to worry about in any presidential election (this year, it's Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida, and maybe Michigan). Sure, there are others that could flip (North Carolina, Georgia, Texas).  But if those go, Democrats are just running up the margin.

It's almost like they don't actually care about having a few states overwhelm the rest of the electorate. It's just that it really bothers them when New York and California specifically have a lot of power.

* And as many have said, this is such a weird way to look at the electorate. Individuals vote, not states...so as long as each person gets one vote, no one's vote is getting over-weighted.

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« Reply #4595 on: September 22, 2020, 08:06:57 pm »
How much do each receive from the federal government?

Wyoming has a net income of $670 per resident from the federal government.  New York has a net income of -$1,792 to the federal government.

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« Reply #4596 on: September 22, 2020, 08:23:11 pm »
Rank   State   Federal Aid as % of State General Revenues
1   Montana   46.1%
2   Wyoming   44.5%
3   Louisiana   43.7%
4   Mississippi   43.3%
5   Arizona   43.1%
6   New Mexico   40.6%
7   Alaska   39.3%
8   Kentucky   38.9%
9   West Virginia   38.1%
10   Indiana   38.0%
11   Tennessee   37.7%
12   Missouri   37.7%
13   Arkansas   37.2%
14   Alabama   36.8%
15   New York   35.9%
16   Pennsylvania   35.0%
17   South Dakota   34.8%
18   Georgia   34.3%
19   Maine   34.3%
20   Ohio   33.9%
21   Oklahoma   33.8%
22   New Hampshire   33.2%
23   Michigan   33.1%
24   Vermont   33.0%
25   Rhode Island   32.8%
26   Oregon   32.8%
27   Florida   32.8%
28   Texas   32.6%
29   Nevada   32.6%
30   South Carolina   31.9%
31   Maryland   31.2%
32   Nebraska   30.9%
33   Idaho   30.7%
34   California   30.7%
35   North Carolina   30.5%
36   Colorado   30.0%
37   Iowa   29.4%
38   Washington   29.2%
39   Massachusetts   28.7%
40   New Jersey   28.7%
41   Illinois   28.5%
42   Delaware   28.1%
43   Connecticut   27.0%
44   North Dakota   26.8%
45   Wisconsin   26.3%
46   Minnesota   26.0%
47   Utah   24.2%
48   Kansas   23.3%
49   Virginia   21.1%
50   Hawaii   20.7%

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« Reply #4597 on: September 22, 2020, 08:41:09 pm »
https://taxfoundation.org/states-rely-most-federal-aid/

The percentage of the state budget that comes from the federal government.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/federal-taxes-federal-services-difference-by-state-2019-1%3famp

Per capita what is paid back received.

Maybe there was a reason America was set up as a republic and not a democracy.

The Supreme Court hasn’t changed in number since 1869. Most of the changes in the number where because of expansion. Of the United States and additional court of appeals. The court has been packed 1 time and that was durning the Civil War. It is a bad idea.  Continued escalation between the parties in going to end poorly for the US. Hopefully someday some adults will actually be in positions of power.




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« Reply #4598 on: September 22, 2020, 08:44:05 pm »
If the Rs steal another seat the Ds have no choice but to do it.  Unilateral disarmament has been a losing strategy for them and thus, for the country.
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« Reply #4599 on: September 22, 2020, 08:45:17 pm »
Cause Republicans will never come back in power and the escalate things more.  MERICA!
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« Reply #4600 on: September 22, 2020, 08:52:06 pm »
Yup, just them them run amok and trash the place.  At least we'll have the moral high ground to view the smoldering ruins!

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« Reply #4601 on: September 22, 2020, 10:09:14 pm »
Maybe it changes if the Democrats actually did take the high ground for once, because they have never tried it before.
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« Reply #4602 on: September 22, 2020, 11:17:58 pm »
Like I said - false equivalency mythology is worse than overt Trumpism.

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« Reply #4603 on: September 23, 2020, 09:25:55 am »
A possible wrinkle in the kerfuffle to fill the Supreme Court seat left vacant by the death of RBG:

The senate race in Arizona is a special election to fill the remaining term of the late John McCain.  If Mark Kelly, who has held a steady lead in the polls and was just endorsed by McCain’s widow, Cindy, defeats appointee Martha McSally, he could take office as soon as the November 3 election results are certified.

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« Reply #4604 on: September 23, 2020, 09:42:07 am »
How much do each receive from the federal government?

The states that put more into the federal govt than they get back on a per capita basis are overwhelmingly blue: CA, NJ, CT, MA, IL, NY, NH, etc.

In a world where WY voters are 40x more enfranchised than NY voters, and NY puts in more money than they get out, are they supposed to dump some tea into the harbor?
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