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brjones

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Re: Today's Game 2020
« Reply #2625 on: October 02, 2020, 04:32:17 pm »
Can't even move the leadoff double to third. Season over. Please make some changes this offseason, I'm tired of watching this same boring, mediocre group year after year.

They would've gotten crushed by the Braves offense anyway.
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« Reply #2626 on: October 02, 2020, 04:32:37 pm »
sad sitiation
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Ron

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« Reply #2627 on: October 02, 2020, 04:38:01 pm »
I guess it's appropriate that of the 5 hits the Cubs got today, 2 were by Happ and 2 were by Heyward (who had the only extra base hit).
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PRCubFan

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Re: Today's Game 2020
« Reply #2628 on: October 02, 2020, 04:44:22 pm »
I hope we start the rebuild.  Start by trading Darvish while his value is as high as it is going to get. 
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JR

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Re: Today's Game 2020
« Reply #2629 on: October 02, 2020, 04:47:14 pm »
Quote from: PRCubFan on October 02, 2020, 04:44:22 pm
I hope we start the rebuild.  Start by trading Darvish while his value is as high as it is going to get. 

That might not be a bad point.

Then again, I doubt Theo or anyone in the Cubs front office can be thinking about a full blown rebuild at this point.
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Bennett

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Re: Today's Game 2020
« Reply #2630 on: October 02, 2020, 05:04:05 pm »
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« Reply #2631 on: October 02, 2020, 05:21:31 pm »
The unicorn is just a popcorn. A liability. Schwarber another one who never comes through. Rizzo with his hair  obsession. Who cares? I don’t. What do you make of a baseball team that worries more about hairdos and necklaces and bracelets and tattoos than driving in a run when it counts? Driving in a run when it counts.
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Re: Today's Game 2020
« Reply #2632 on: October 02, 2020, 06:05:38 pm »
Our offensive stars have regressed since 2016.  Likely cannot win another championship with this group no matter how much pitching you put around them.  Time to start selling off some assets I'm afraid.
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Deeg

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« Reply #2633 on: October 02, 2020, 06:45:47 pm »
Quote from: Playtwo on October 02, 2020, 06:05:38 pm
Our offensive stars have regressed since 2016.  Likely cannot win another championship with this group no matter how much pitching you put around them.  Time to start selling off some assets I'm afraid.

None of those "assets" have any trade value at this point.  Maybe Contreras a little, and even after this awful season Baez based on his defense.  But Bryant, Schwarber, Rizzo?  Nah.
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« Reply #2634 on: October 02, 2020, 07:35:18 pm »
Despite their failings today, Wednesday and much of the rest of the key games of 2018-2020, those core guys (Rizzo, Bryant, Baez, Schwarber, Contreras) should always have a tremendous amount of value to Cub fans, even if not to the GMs of MLB today.

Whatever happened today or at the end of this season or at the end of the last three, those guys were HUGE factors in the Cubs, somehow, pulling off the Holy Grail of sports!  It still seems almost too good to be true for some of us who followed Cub teams for MANY decades.

To be sure, life has ups and downs (as we've all experienced following the Cubs)!  But our Cubs won the Freaking World Championship in 2016 (after a minor drought of 108 years).  That will never be taken away from any of us or those core guys who struggled again today!

So, when we think of the core guys who couldn't come through for us the way we hoped in recent years, let's remember that they knocked down the damn door in 2016. They were clutch! 

And let's be at least somewhat grateful that we had each of them in a Cub uniform in that incredible timeframe.

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Deeg

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Re: Today's Game 2020
« Reply #2635 on: October 02, 2020, 07:50:49 pm »
Yeah, but what the fuch happened?
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« Reply #2636 on: October 02, 2020, 08:07:29 pm »
I'm not complaining.  Three division titles in six years, and two wild cards.  We've won six of the ten playoff "series" this group has been to so far (five of eight if you don't count the wild card game).  Six over-.500 years in a row, and that's six good years so far after five rebuilding years.
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Re: Today's Game 2020
« Reply #2637 on: October 04, 2020, 06:48:28 pm »
Quote from: Deeg on October 02, 2020, 06:45:47 pm
None of those "assets" have any trade value at this point.  Maybe Contreras a little, and even after this awful season Baez based on his defense.  But Bryant, Schwarber, Rizzo?  Nah.
I think it gets overlooked how many "core" guys from 2016.  Russell, Zobrist, Fowler, Ross, Montero, and Soler.  Some of these guys were good situational (clutch) hitters.  Zobrist, Fowler, and Ross sprinkled in with the studs created a lineup that clicked better than this year's.  No, they aren't HOFers, but they were great role players who many on the rest of the team looked up to and emulated. They made contact and forced mistakes.  Much of what they did doesn't show up in stats but it's the DNA of a good team.

Now as to the tradability of the "stars", it may be that they didn't help their value this year, but out there somewhere there are teams that want to put butts in the seats or who feel that one of two more big names and power will help them.  To make a trade work however we may have to take back players that aren't particularly well known but can fill a role. 
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Deeg

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« Reply #2638 on: October 04, 2020, 07:32:29 pm »
I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that Bryant gets DFA'd (though not likely).  Certainly he isn't going to bring much of anything of value in trade.
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dallen7908

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« Reply #2639 on: October 05, 2020, 11:22:00 am »
Eno Sarris posted an article in the Athletic that included a table listing how hard each team in the playoffs hit the ball.  The Cubs finished dead last with a nitro percentage of 16.7% (% of strikes with exit velocities of 90 mph or greater and launch angles between 0 and 40 degrees).  The Reds were the unluckiest team. 
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