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Title: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 11, 2013, 10:44:29 am
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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 11, 2013, 09:05:18 pm
I searched around a little to find a Stanley Cup preview I liked most. It's not the only site, certainly, to pick the Blackhawks, but it's the one that touches on some hockey-SABR kind of analysis to explain the pick. Here is the key section:

"Chicago finished the regular season as one of the best puck possession teams in the league, finishing second in Fenwick percentage (a measure of attempted shots that help indicate possession) and second in shot differential (plus-4.9 per game). Few teams over the past decade have been as dominant with the puck as the Blackhawks have been, and the ability to control the puck and possession is a common trait that most Stanley Cup winners have"

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/eye-on-hockey/22388535/stanley-cup-final-why-the-chicago-blackhawks-will-win-the-cup
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 12, 2013, 09:04:48 am
good one shasson... can't wait for the National Anthem by Jim and puck drop this evening...Go 'Hawks!!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 12, 2013, 12:53:59 pm
It's Hawkey night in Chicago!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 12, 2013, 02:00:24 pm
FYI,Chicago Tribune had very informative pull-out section for the Stanley Cup Final.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 12, 2013, 07:58:30 pm
Not a good first period.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 12, 2013, 08:08:07 pm
It was for Boston. At least the last 2/3rds. Hawks started out great. Better crank it up a few notches.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 12, 2013, 08:21:09 pm
Game might be over now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 12, 2013, 08:29:56 pm
Gonna tie it up here.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 12, 2013, 09:03:14 pm
As usual the PP is abysmal. Actually outplayed the Bruins that period but still come out trailing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 12, 2013, 09:26:19 pm
Took the Bruins about 20 seconds to score on their first PP of the game. That after Chara flopped as soon as a stick got between his legs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 12, 2013, 09:29:21 pm
Thing is, the way this game has gone, it feeds into the whole irrational belief that Boston is somehow riding this great surge of momentum and grit and bellyfire (hawks have many more shot attempts and shots on goal).  Losing game one isn't a death knell, but it doesn't help.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 12, 2013, 09:56:49 pm
Hawks get it to OT with two excellent periods. Came very close to getting the lead. Let's hope that doesn't haunt them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 12, 2013, 10:27:36 pm
PP for Bruins 7:52 left in 1st OT...slightly freakin...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 12, 2013, 10:38:56 pm
Hawks badly outplayed in the 1st OT. Lucky to still be playing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 13, 2013, 12:05:09 am
Ho hum, just another win.

Wow. Hockey games are ridiculous.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 13, 2013, 12:13:58 am
They have two days off but could probably use a week.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 13, 2013, 07:43:01 am
Went to bed with the Hawks down 3-1 in the third period.  Nice to wake up to see a win in the books.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 13, 2013, 07:56:34 am
Whew! game ends after midnight ...and what a game!...triple overtime and the winning goal is scored on a deflection off of Shaw's knee! I'm pretty sure there won't be a practice for either team today ::) ... looking forward to Saturday night puck drop....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 13, 2013, 08:40:29 am
I hate living on east coast time.  There's no way I would've stayed up until 1am watching that game having to get up at 5am.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 13, 2013, 08:48:41 am
I hate living on east coast time.  There's no way I would've stayed up until 1am watching that game having to get up at 5am.
Fits you could move to a different time zone or use drugs to alleviate the effects of lack of sleep ;)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 13, 2013, 09:15:21 am
lol  Thanks for the tips, Steve.  If I could move back to Colorado, I would.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 13, 2013, 09:34:16 am
Any time Fits.I got your back. ;D
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Cactus on June 13, 2013, 10:04:59 am
Mike Tirico appears to be anchoring ESPN's U.S. Open golf coverage instead of Chris Berman.  Thank you very much.

First round play has been suspended due to severe weather.  There may be a window in a short time but more rain is on the way.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on June 13, 2013, 10:08:55 am
Yeah - the stuff that blew through earlier is about 1/5th the severity of what is coming in an hour or so
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 13, 2013, 10:21:45 am
Kind of expected it to be a washout today the way things have been looking.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Cactus on June 13, 2013, 11:39:51 am
If there is any television worse than baseball rain delay coverage, it's the golf equivalent.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Cactus on June 14, 2013, 04:40:58 pm
As NBC ended their U.S. Open coverage at 4:00 P.M. Chicago time, Phil Mickelson had just hit into a narrow little water hazard and Johnny Miller said he had no stance.  ESPN picked up the telecast by showing some recorded highlights and then went to Mickelson making a putt for a par.  My TV is still in one piece but I'm not sure why.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 15, 2013, 11:11:22 am
Puck drop @ 7,NBCSN....go 'Hawks!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 15, 2013, 08:12:28 pm
'Hawks 1-0 on goal by Patrick Sharp...the 'Hawks are dominating the Bruins...19 to 4 SOG for the 'Hawks ... very impressive
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 15, 2013, 08:15:42 pm
Great first period but the Bruins are right there. Hawks didn't really take advantage.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 15, 2013, 08:23:18 pm
The disallowed goal was unfortunate bit of luck....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 15, 2013, 08:38:20 pm
Considering the talent available, the Blackhawks have the worst Power Play I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 15, 2013, 08:42:57 pm
Yeah their PP does suck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 15, 2013, 08:48:39 pm
Tie game
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on June 15, 2013, 08:48:50 pm
That's your ballgame, folks.  No recovering from that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 15, 2013, 08:59:06 pm
Goal post saves the Hawks from being down after two. And that came while on a PP.

Chances were 15-1 at one point and yet it's a dog fight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 15, 2013, 09:14:39 pm
Well this ought to be a helluva 3rd period...tense
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 15, 2013, 09:56:33 pm
Jeez, another OT!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 15, 2013, 09:59:24 pm
Missed most of 1st period. Seems like Hawks imposed their will, which meant the absurd edge in shots. Should the Toews goal have counted?
Last half of regulation Boston imposed their will -- which means no time or space for Hawks. Really, I haven't seen the Hawks' with a good shift or scoring chance in almost 2 periods.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 15, 2013, 10:02:37 pm
The ref blew the whistle too quickly for the goal to have counted even had they seen it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 15, 2013, 10:32:18 pm
Hawks deserved to lose that game. They got outplayed badly after the first period. In fact, they're quite fortunate not to be down two games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 15, 2013, 10:40:32 pm
Agree, absolutely, Chris. Boston has smothered them for long stretches (which makes the 1st period tonight so exciting yet sort of confusing)

Bollig won't play again. Hopefully Stalberg's speed will be an impact. But, no Hawks' fan can feel too good at this point.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 15, 2013, 10:49:36 pm
I fear that Boston has the karma.  Also, they just might be the better team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 15, 2013, 10:54:52 pm
The Hawks are the better team but that doesn't mean anything. Still have to win the games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 16, 2013, 08:43:30 am
While last night's loss was a downer I still believe that  the Hawks will bring home the Cup.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on June 17, 2013, 01:25:53 pm
hawks in six
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 17, 2013, 01:29:46 pm
I'm concerned that the Hawks' offense hasn't done anything against Rask. Going to be hard to keep winning 2-1 games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 17, 2013, 07:17:59 pm
I'm concerned that the Hawks' offense hasn't done anything against Rask. Going to be hard to keep winning 2-1 games.
Winning big by the 'Hawks would certainly be easier on my heart , I'll take 3 victories by one goal the rest of the series ::)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on June 17, 2013, 07:37:00 pm
What's wrong with Hossa?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 17, 2013, 08:00:52 pm
An embarrassing first period by the Blackhawks. They looked like the hockey equivalent of the Bad News Bears.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on June 17, 2013, 08:20:45 pm
Ballgame.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 17, 2013, 08:21:37 pm
Hawks being dominated, and have been for nearly four periods now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 17, 2013, 08:29:43 pm
They're sandbagging. :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on June 17, 2013, 08:43:20 pm
And the humiliation and degradation begins.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 17, 2013, 08:44:13 pm
Disgraceful display of hockey the last 4-1/2 periods.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 17, 2013, 08:52:40 pm
Boston did the same thing to Pittsburgh. The Hawks are in big trouble in this series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 17, 2013, 08:57:54 pm
Pretty bad showing by the 'Hawks tonight...they'll need a miraculous 3rd period for sure....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 17, 2013, 08:59:35 pm
I haven't seen anything that makes me believe the Hawks can win tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 17, 2013, 09:03:43 pm
Tonight?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 17, 2013, 09:44:14 pm
Ah well look forward to game 4...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 17, 2013, 09:45:19 pm
Not me. The Hawks have scored 3 legitimate goals in 13 periods. Looks bleak.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 18, 2013, 07:54:52 am
Hawks got worked over big time last night. Every phase of their game(excepting Crawford) was decidedly sub-par. Hawks were out-hustled and out-muscled in game three. Hawks won't win the physical match up with B's,  but they can step up the pursuit of the loose puck and put pucks on the net like they did in period 1 of game two.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 08:09:03 am
When a goalie is unconscious like Rask is, sometimes you can substantially outplay the other team and still lose.  When you're being outplayed, that's a highly dangerous combination.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 18, 2013, 08:29:02 am
Rask hasn't had to make a tough save in five periods. Maybe if he were tested he'd allow a goal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 18, 2013, 08:39:25 am
IMHO.Rask has been on fire for some time, agreed. Crawford has been equally powerful for quite a while.I think Rask is very quick moving side to side maybe roofin the puck stick side is the play for score or rebound opportunity. Crawford a bit vulnerable glove side.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 18, 2013, 08:48:36 am
As Chris said, Rask is good, but he hasn't really been tested -- even with the barrage in the 1st period of game 2, there weren't that many super high-quality chances. 

If old man Scottie Bowman has any magic ideas, might be a good time for Q to ask him to step up to the white board and diagram something for the powerplay.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 08:52:08 am
Rask hasn't had to make a tough save in five periods. Maybe if he were tested he'd allow a goal.

Yeah, that .946 postseason save % is definitely meaningless.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 18, 2013, 11:56:19 am
Committed Indian is a good Blackhawks' blog (in a (we-want-to-be-like-grantland-or-deadspin kind of way) and the analysis of last night was interesting. I do agree that Q did not respond well to Hossa being out. By putting Krueger and Frolik with Toews, he made sure Boston didn't need to pay attention to that line as a scoring line, and Bergeren (sp?) could focus on Kane and Sharp.

http://thecommittedindian.com/some-day-therell-be-a-cure-for-pain-hawks-0-bruins-2-bs-lead-2-1/#more-5337

With Hossa tomorrow, first 2 lines really should be something like 29/19/88 and 10/26/81. Make Boston defend 2 lines. If Hossa can't go, I'd think about going all in on speed, and putting stalberg on line 1 with 19 and 29, and 88 joins 26 and 10. or keep kane with toews and bickell, and have stalberg opposite sharp
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 18, 2013, 12:05:23 pm
I'm still trying to figure out how a show featuring Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless can draw enough viewers to stay on the air.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 18, 2013, 12:45:12 pm
I'm still trying to figure out how a show featuring Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless can draw enough viewers to stay on the air.
I gave up on that pair's show very early on. Two blowhard-know-it-all "reporters" shouting back and forth on that day's sports menu was unwatchable. The occasional drive-by reinforced my initial decision.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on June 18, 2013, 01:29:27 pm
if the hawks dont fix some things quickly, they have no chance...man, they looked AWFUL 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 18, 2013, 01:40:43 pm
I think we're underestimating the Bruins.  They are really good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 18, 2013, 02:16:17 pm
The B's are who we thought they were and we let 'em off the hook!! So if you want to crown them...then crown their ass!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 18, 2013, 10:08:01 pm
I don't think Michael Jordan would be 3 of 12 from the field through 3 quarters in a lose or go home game in the NBA Finals.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 10:25:17 pm
Nope.  But let's not use this as an excuse to rip Lebron - I don't like him, but he's basically carried the Heat this far with very little help (including from Wade).  He's certainly proved himself as a clutch player by now.

That said, go Spurs.  What an effort by the ageless Duncan - hope they can close the deal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 10:43:16 pm
Ray Allen started the 2nd half for Wade.  Of course he has 2 points in 35 minutes...

The predictable Lebron surge carried Miami all the way back, but now SA has retaken the lead with 58 seconds left.  C'mon, Spurs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 10:44:22 pm
Wow, 2 turnovers in 2 possessions for King James.  Sweet justice for good and evil.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 10:47:39 pm
Now he drains a 3 on a second-chance bucket.  Weak by the Spurs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 10:49:52 pm
Yeah - Leonard is the guy you pass the ball to?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 10:51:04 pm
LOL, another made three on an offensive rebound.  Foul Bosh, idiots!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 10:53:46 pm
Oh, well. Would have been nice to see the Heat lose, but SA has no one to blame but themselves.  Missed FTs, offensive rebounds surrendered...  Generally a weak 4th from such a veteran team. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 18, 2013, 10:54:08 pm
Amazing. Two missed FT's and two threes off second chances. That after a horrendous 4-possession streak by James.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 18, 2013, 10:55:24 pm
Jesus Shuttlesworth.
Damn, that was crazy.
Hopefully it means nothing and the spurs win in OT.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 18, 2013, 11:11:56 pm
That should do it. Oh well, in another 8-10 years we won't have to look at the Heat anymore.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 19, 2013, 03:27:02 pm
Miami Heat fans who left Game 6 early try to get back into the arena after the game goes into overtime.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/miami-heat-fans-denied-reentry-after-rally/-/1637132/20627370/-/qsql1f/-/index.html (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/miami-heat-fans-denied-reentry-after-rally/-/1637132/20627370/-/qsql1f/-/index.html)

http://deadspin.com/hundreds-of-heat-fans-leave-game-6-early-a-nation-laug-514254371 (http://deadspin.com/hundreds-of-heat-fans-leave-game-6-early-a-nation-laug-514254371)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 19, 2013, 03:34:16 pm
http://youtu.be/rDngPPGBW1w
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 07:33:49 pm
The Blackhawks have put more pressure on Rask in the first 6 minutes than they did the previous 4 periods combined.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 07:35:11 pm
Better start in Boston... Hawks 1-0, scoring a shorthanded goal....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 07:46:56 pm
Horseshit officiating so far.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 07:50:53 pm
Tie game...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 07:51:10 pm
And the Hawks **** the lead away with two butchered clearing attempts. But then Boston had no business being on the PP. The refs are responsible for the tie game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 07:55:23 pm
The Hawks actually show up and control the game, and then the refs take it away in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 07:58:43 pm
Refs have given Boston all the momentum. Perhaps that was the plan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 08:36:00 pm
Toews lights the lamp...2-1
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 08:41:41 pm
Kane scores...3-1....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 08:51:04 pm
Lucic scores...3-2
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 08:54:34 pm
Kruger scores, 4-2....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 08:58:41 pm
Second goal the refs have awarded the Bruins.

It's 4-1-2 now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 08:59:56 pm
B's score a PP goal...4-3...action is fast and furious....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 09:09:00 pm
Win or lose, and it's probably lose, these officials need to be investigated. The Hawks have already had 4 legit goals stolen from them in the playoffs and now this garbage.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 09:24:55 pm
3-1 and 4-2 leads down the drain.

Thanks refs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 09:49:04 pm
5-5...this is freakin wild!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 10:02:19 pm
42 shots, 5 goals, 3 separate leads, two 2-goal leads. And they can't win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 10:14:40 pm
OT coming up...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 10:39:24 pm
Hawks Win!!! 6-5...whew! Man what a game...!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 19, 2013, 10:39:57 pm
Rask! 6 goals against. Man, I hate Boston teams.

Things are now officially interesting!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 19, 2013, 10:42:25 pm
Chara was a minus 3, Bergeren minus 2
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 10:43:27 pm
Well, the Hawks deserved to win that one. Still not confident for the series, but losing that with those calls would've been a travesty.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 19, 2013, 10:45:35 pm
Hawks outshot them 47-33. This type of loss (giving up 6 goals at home) so blows up the Boston mythology, that it will be interesting to see how they respond.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 10:48:11 pm
I thought Rask was mostly excellent. 47 shots against and more high quality chances than Chicago had the previous 3 games combined. Had little to no chance on at least 4 of the goals. Can the Hawks keep getting those chances though? My guess is the Bruins will turn it back into a quicksand game on Saturday.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 10:52:26 pm
After a sorry game 3 the Hawks really responded big...look forward to the return to the UC!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 20, 2013, 07:44:11 am
Impressive effort by the Hawks.  They will need to continue pressing the Bruins if they're to eke out the Cup.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 20, 2013, 07:53:11 am
Crawford will have to improve on his glove side saves.  Every single goal by the Bruins was to that side last night.

And agreed, P2.....they have to keep up the relentless approach they took last night to have any chance of winning this thing.

It's a best of three series now. GO HAWKS!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on June 20, 2013, 08:27:26 pm
It's really a privilege to be able to watch Tim Duncan play basketball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 22, 2013, 09:11:45 pm
After 2 periods Hawks 2 Bruins 0...SOG, Hawks 19, Bruins 16 , Face off wins 19 Hawks 16 Bruins, Hits 38 Bruins. 19 Hawks...3rd period coming up....Kane scored both goals by the way
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2013, 09:24:26 pm
Bruins right in the game. The Hawks' inability to even get a chance on a PP and a failed Saad breakaway haunting them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 22, 2013, 09:57:01 pm
3-1 Hawks... on to Boston...Go Hawks!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2013, 09:58:51 pm
They somehow held on but Toews might be concussed again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 22, 2013, 10:05:43 pm
Boston certainly targeted Toews' head all night, so they got what they wanted.

the next game may well be played without Toews or Bergeron. I like the Hawks' depth.  But that game is going to be a war. Kane and his magic hands will have to be the spark, again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2013, 10:15:42 pm
If it's a concussion, Toews is likely out the for any remaining games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 23, 2013, 11:37:26 am
(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/nl8VJCSsrXPbPWYP1lKhhw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0xOTU7cT04NTt3PTM1Mg--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2013-06-22/99d983ac-967d-4156-a9cb-470fcc596adc_783803732.gif)

Johnny Boychuk deserves a minimum two game suspension for his hit on Toews as both feet leave the ice just before he delivers a forearm shiver to the back of Toews' neck/head.  Boychuk intentionally headhunted a star player with a history of concussions.  But I suspect nothing will be handed down from the NHL since their Executive Vice President and Director of Hockey Operations (Colin Campbell) has a son who is on the Boston Bruins (Gregory Campbell).

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 23, 2013, 12:12:49 pm
The only way that would be penalized is if CNN and ESPN kept replaying it like above with commentary about how brutal and unpenalized it was.  All sports are becoming more concerned about concussions and if the NHL was portrayed as being insincere, somebody would do something.  Lately, public opinion has to be whipped up by the media before something is done.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2013, 04:02:38 pm
The NHL decided against any penalty. I'm sure they'd claim the initial point of contact was the shoulder.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 23, 2013, 06:13:35 pm
Shameful response to the hits on Toews.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 08:15:57 am
Interesting that EdsO doesn't find the Boychuk hit penalty-worthy... ???
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 07:10:21 pm
Game #6 start minutes away...Gotta figure the B's coming out like mad dogs...might be a helluva night...Go Hawks!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 24, 2013, 07:41:05 pm
Blackhawks seem to have forgotten there was a game tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 07:41:11 pm
Boston strikes first 1-0
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 07:43:02 pm
Not an unexpected start by Boston....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 24, 2013, 07:52:34 pm
Awful effort by Chicago so far. Not skating, not initiating anything.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 08:05:59 pm
I M O the Hawks are doin the hockey equivalent of the Ali rope-a-dope ;)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 24, 2013, 08:07:54 pm
Strange how the Hawks didn't answer the bell. Lucky as hell to be down only 1-0.

That last penalty on Rosival, by the way: that's a penalty, but the Boychuck hit on Toews is a good hockey play? Really?

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Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 08:28:38 pm
Yesssssss Toews!!!!! All tied up!!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 08:31:18 pm
Seabrooke with the 4th Hawks penalty
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 24, 2013, 09:02:23 pm
Both Bickell and Kane were within millimeters of scoring on that PP.

Man the ice is bad. I'm sure the NHL oversees ice during the SCF, but that is embarrassingly bad ice for a game like this.

Anyhow, good period for hawks. They need another gear now
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 09:07:59 pm
Yeah Kane almost had a little flip over Rask, but Chara poked it away, close but no cigar, dang it.....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 24, 2013, 09:36:13 pm
One of Duncan Keith's patented turnovers may have just lead to a game seven.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 10:07:51 pm
Stanley Cup Champs, again...what an unbelieveable last 76 seconds, unfreakin real
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on June 24, 2013, 10:10:43 pm
Woo hoo!  What a great front to back season!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 10:12:49 pm
You know it ECF
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: brjones on June 24, 2013, 10:17:08 pm
So ICE Hockey season finally ends on June 24?  More than 3 months after winter is over?  What a ridiculous sport.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 10:22:02 pm
Seriously?...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 24, 2013, 10:26:50 pm
BRJones, what the hell? Who are you, the offspring of Jes Beard and JeffH? Perhaps the most ill timed idiotic comment in the history of this forum. Congrats on being kind of a shithead.

But, anyhow, trolls be damned. What an epic completely un-Chicago-like heart-stopping incredible game and season. wow, wow, wow.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 10:30:29 pm
What' s the tradition of who gets the Cup first to take it on a personal tour?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 24, 2013, 10:34:12 pm
Congrats to the Hawks on winning the Stanley Cup!

Hopefully they'll be taking good care of it for the Preds next year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: brjones on June 24, 2013, 10:37:54 pm
Sorry, just bitter that the Cubs are so bad. 

Really, congrats to the Blackhawks.  Just frustrated that the only sport I'm really invested in turns out so bad every year.  Just really hoping the Cubs are like the Blackhawks in a few years.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 10:45:03 pm
Hey br I'm bummed as well about our Cubs, but the Hawks were incredible during the shortened season. Someday sooner than later the Cubs will be the toast of Chicago, believe it.... :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 24, 2013, 10:52:25 pm
Ok, BR Jones, you are forgiven.

Hey, a Cubs win would be way beyond this. But, this is pretty special.

And what's cool is that the Blackhaws -- thanks to Scottie Bowman -- have a philosophy and system in place that will allow this to happen again. Or at least a good chance. And we all hope that the Cubs' have that kind of sustained success starting soon.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 24, 2013, 10:55:18 pm
Now that was shocking.

The Hawks buck the trend of Chicago teams finding ways to lose. This one somehow found a way to win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 24, 2013, 11:30:25 pm
Fantastic win by the Hawks.  I have to admit I was not optimistic after game 3, but I'm delighted to have been proven wrong.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 25, 2013, 07:16:20 am
Still in shock over the last couple minutes of that game.  Wow.  Was expecting a game 7 in Chi-Town tomorrow night.  I think the Hawks caught the Bruins off-guard a little bit, the Bruins thinking they had it in the bag and just got overwhelmed there at the end.  What a finish.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 25, 2013, 07:37:40 am
After tying the game the Bruins won the ensuing face off and I'm thinking the B's will go into a "prevent defense" slow the play with D to D passes but the Hawks had different mind set,get bodies in front of Ras, put pucks on the net, then BANG! Oduya to Bolland,game ovah!!!! .....actually I blame the guy singing the National Anthem doing his dumb schtick following the conclusion of his rendition putting the curse on the B's chances of winning the cup... ;D
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 25, 2013, 08:39:54 am
It's so different watching the Hawks than any other Chicago team.  The Hawks seemed to always find a way to win.  The rest the opposite.  Lots of fun.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 25, 2013, 09:42:39 am
It was cool that the winning goal was scored by a combo of Kruger, Oduya, Frolik and Bolland. Hardly the limelight guys.  But a huge reason why the Hawks had the regular season they did, and won the cup, was because of their depth.

Scottie Bowman's philosophy of playing the puck instead of flying around trying to taking guys' heads off wins out again, as it did in Detroit. And he also is a big believer in keeping a core of guys and then bringing up guys from  the minors (and the Hawks have a top-10 system), and filing in with spare parts. The Kane/Toews group has a few more years together...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 25, 2013, 09:46:15 am
Hope that Bowman makes sure that Bickell is part of that core.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 25, 2013, 09:54:15 am
Kane and Toews have one year left on their contracts. By the time they are re-signed, the team will be in cap hell once again. It's really unfortunate, but the Hawks are going to have to go through this again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on June 25, 2013, 10:19:14 am
Awesome win!  Awesome finish!

Kane and Toews have 2 years left

Sharp has 4 and Hossa and Keith have forever.

http://www.capgeek.com/blackhawks/

I heard they can buy out Montador so they can keep Bickell.  Maybe they can find a taker for Bolland too.

But they do have several young guys to fill in.  Things will still be good next year although they might really miss Emery next year.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 25, 2013, 10:33:42 am
Lovely drop pass to the point by Kruger on the winning goal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 25, 2013, 10:53:23 am
I was thinking Kane and Toews had signed 4-year deals.

Hossa's contract eventually is going to be an albatross.

The Hawks recently signed a Finnish goalie who was the MVP of his league and is an excellent prospect. He could backup Crawford next year or perhaps need one year in the AHL.

I'd like to see Jeremy Morin get a permanent wing spot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 25, 2013, 12:06:24 pm
I don't care about contracts right now.  I'm too busy enjoying the Cup!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 25, 2013, 03:34:28 pm
At least this loser franchise has something decent to put on the old sign...



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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 26, 2013, 08:42:23 am
ESPN really annoys the hell out of me.  The Biogenesis scandal was big front page news on ESPN, but when a prominent NFL player gets arrested as part of a murder investigation, it's nothing more than just a little link off to the side.

It's pretty obvious ESPN is trying to keep the bad PR for their favorite league down to as little as possible.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 26, 2013, 08:44:59 am
I mean if the MLB equivalent to Aaron Hernandez (someone like Torii Hunter for example) was caught up for two weeks in a murder investigation and eventually got arrested, it'd probably be front page news on ESPN for the entire two weeks. 

Steroids in MLB gets treated as a major story any time something comes up.  Murder in the NFL . . . not so much.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Cactus on June 26, 2013, 08:52:00 am
ESPN will have competition starting August 17 when Fox Sports 1 debuts.  I doubt if they will be much different.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 26, 2013, 12:26:02 pm
Hilarious article about the Bruins with wonderful pictures:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/eulogy-remembering-2012-13-boston-bruins-151152407.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on June 26, 2013, 02:42:54 pm
ESPN has been live on the Aaron Hernandez story all day long.  They covered his arrest and arraignment live and talked about it on SportsCenter all morning and afternoon.  It wasn't the only thing they talked about but it certainly was covered.  They had someone live on the scene outside his house, another reporter live outside the courthouse and their legal analyst was on several times all morning and afternon discussing the probability of bail for Hernandez on various charges.  They even had football discussions about how Hernandez being released by the Patriots would effect their season.

I have my problems with ESPN but saying they didn't cover the Hernandez story is off base.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 26, 2013, 02:45:42 pm
Yeah they're finally now making a big deal out of it now that he's been officially charged and the Patriots have released him. 

Their coverage of it up to that point had been very subdued I thought, though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 26, 2013, 03:59:22 pm
Heh, good thing they signed Tebow.  "Son, you're moving to Tight End."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 26, 2013, 04:00:19 pm
Yeah they're finally now making a big deal out of it now that he's been officially charged and the Patriots have released him. 

Their coverage of it up to that point had been very subdued I thought, though.
I don't know about ESPN but CNN made a big deal out of it since last week.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 26, 2013, 09:39:06 pm
SI looks at the Blackhawks' immediate roster issues and potential replacements:

http://nhl.si.com/2013/06/26/chicago-blackhawks-look-to-youth-to-fill-holes-in-post-stanley-cup-roster/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 27, 2013, 06:49:12 am
Heh, good thing they signed Tebow.  "Son, you're moving to Tight End."

That might not be so far off.  Tight end or fullback.  Dude is an athlete.....just not a quarterback.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 27, 2013, 06:04:01 pm
The UCLA team roster is interesting.  3 if those kids played for the Springfield Sliders wood bat team a few years back.  All but one player is from California, except one kid from distant Reno, NV.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 27, 2013, 08:48:22 pm
Another lose with dignity pick for the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 29, 2013, 10:56:53 pm
Well we know the Stanley Cup is in good hands....

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BN-ce0XCEAEfcEn.jpg
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 30, 2013, 11:13:30 am
The more I read about this Hernandez situation, the more I wonder about his intelligence.  Is he really bright and thinks he will beat this rap like OJ or is he really so stupid to allow even his home security cameras show him with the weapon moments after the killing?  How do you have such brass as to throw away 40 million dollars cuz it's more important to you to be a gangsta?  Puzzling.  Really puzzling.

I saw one attorney who said that he expects the head injury defense...too many concussions.  Not sure that will fly.  Too many drug involvements is more likely, plus the 2012 killings were prior to the concussion he received.  Good chance he will OJ because there were two other guys with him and unless they roll over, nobody can prove he fired the actual shots, but, like OJ, the ensuing civil suit will clean him out.

Just hard to believe that you can be so immoral and psychopathic to do that kind of thing, even though I've seen what drugs to do kids. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 01, 2013, 07:21:21 pm
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Marc Stein        ✔ @ESPNSteinLine

Mike Dunleavy has gone ahead and verbally committed to sign two-year, $6M deal with Bulls, according to sources with knowledge of the deal
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 01, 2013, 07:22:49 pm
Interesting that the Bulls apparently fired Ron Adams because he was privately critical of Paxson and Foreman's personnel decisions.  Given his reputation as a superb assistant and closeness with Rose and Thibs, that's a pretty risky move.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on July 02, 2013, 01:11:06 pm
it won't be long before tibs is out with CHI...he and gar are butting heads
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Coach on July 02, 2013, 06:35:18 pm
Thibs has always reminded me of Mike Keenan.  Short-term success but can't do it long-term due to burnout.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 02, 2013, 06:42:02 pm
I can see that too, but given that this is his first head-coaching gig it's too soon to label him that way.  Skiles, on the other hand...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Coach on July 02, 2013, 06:47:59 pm
Coolest call of the Hawks' clincher.  It's in Finnish, but it is epic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHcGlR4-dV0
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on July 02, 2013, 10:22:25 pm
Thanks coach, that was truly awesome!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 09, 2013, 10:36:43 pm
Thibs has always reminded me of Mike Keenan.  Short-term success but can't do it long-term due to burnout.

Big difference between Thibs & Keenan is most of Keenan's players (at least on the Blackhawks) hated him.  Bulls players like Thibs.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 09, 2013, 10:41:16 pm

Chris27 must be in mourning.  Elisha Cuthbert got married to a Maple Leaf and no, Sean Avery wasn't invited.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20714856,00.html (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20714856,00.html)






Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 09, 2013, 10:55:43 pm
You have a damn fine memory.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 09, 2013, 11:02:21 pm
Easy to remember as you did use her photo as your avatar for about two years or so.   Maybe longer.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 16, 2013, 09:38:57 pm
Although it's of limited meaning, Teague looks like a star in the summer league.  Wonder if there's any way Thibs lets him see the floor next season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 17, 2013, 12:34:58 am
Apparently Tony Snell has looked really good too. He might be an impact defender.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 21, 2013, 11:25:39 am
I hope you guys got to watch Phil Mickelson down the stretch at the British.  That was some unbelievable golf.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 21, 2013, 11:33:18 am
Lovely birdie putt on 18.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Cactus on July 21, 2013, 01:11:39 pm
Add Phil Mickelson’s 66 at Muirfield to the 65 Arnold Palmer shot at Cherry Hills in 1960 and the 63 Johnny Miller shot at Oakmont in 1973 if you are making a list of the greatest final rounds in major championship golf.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 23, 2013, 06:49:07 pm
Jimmy Butler could use a fashion consultant:

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nba/guard-jimmy-butler-does-not-support-****/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on July 27, 2013, 10:58:27 am
Really great read on Louisana guy playing qb at Memphis. 

http://www.cbssports.com/general/blog/gregg-doyel/22886326/modest-qbs-piano-talent-a-memorable-gift-for-11-year-old-cancer-patient
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on July 27, 2013, 11:04:28 am
Karam is the talk of the town. Doyel did nice work on a great story.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 05, 2013, 08:42:16 am
More proof that big time college athletics is one of the dirtiest businesses in America today.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9537999/otl-ncaa-investigating-johnny-manziel-profiting-autographs

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 05, 2013, 08:42:22 am
There's just so much wrong with that, I can't even begin. 

The first problem is these "student" athletes on the glorified minor league pro football teams need to be paid.  Granted, Johnny Manziel has proven himself to be a real moran, and this is just more proof of it.  Still, Texas A&M, his coaches, the university administrators, the NCAA, the SEC, ESPN, adidas, etc. have made millions and millions of dollars off this this guy, and his only compensation is roughly a $15,000 to $20,000 per year benefit.  A player who brings in that kind of money ought to be compensated for it legally. 

And of course the second problem is Johnny Manziel, college football's brightest star, is a complete idiot jack-ass.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 05, 2013, 09:29:46 am
Whether it's Braun, Aaron Hernandez, Johnny Football, Riley Cooper, that Alabama rookie's flashing the cash, ARod...there is a aura that these guys display that says, "I will never get caught," "I am too important to get in trouble" "My money and fame will get me out of it."  And there is a total ignorance of the power of social media to characterize and publicize when you do stupid stuff.  I'm beginning to believe Johnny will flame out.  And since ARod is showing such arrogance, I hope they ban him.  Even if he sues and appeals, it can drag out long enough that he never plays again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 05, 2013, 09:33:46 am
Yeah I'm also starting to think now that Manziel is going to flame out.  It looks like he's turning into a case of having too much fame too soon and not being nearly mature enough to handle it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 16, 2013, 09:44:40 am
Nice little piece on Noah:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/nba-z-joakim-noah-175020876.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 17, 2013, 01:33:57 pm
This is amazing:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/videogallery/77066413/Amazing-7-10-bowling-split-with-thrown-baseballs
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 26, 2013, 08:30:42 am
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Kevin Kolb - QB - Bills

According to the Buffalo News' Tim Graham, Kevin Kolb struggled to answer questions like "where are you" and "what's you're name" following his concussion in the third preseason game.
Yeah, it's probably time to hang 'em up. Graham told Sirius XM Radio's Ross Tucker that Kolb is "almost certainly done for the year," in addition to fears about Kolb's long-term health. The Bills will move forward with Jeff Tuel, Matt Leinart, and Thad Lewis competing for No. 2 duties behind E.J. Manuel.

I don't think being unable to answer "What is you're name?" is necessarily a sign one has a concussion.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on August 26, 2013, 08:33:30 am
Depends on who's asking...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 26, 2013, 08:37:39 am
I don't think being unable to answer "What is you're name?" is necessarily a sign one has a concussion.
Yeah, that's an everyday occurrence for Davep.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on August 29, 2013, 08:31:47 am
Yeah, that's an everyday occurrence for Davep.

That might be offending to Davep if he could remember that's his name.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on September 08, 2013, 08:02:34 pm
Watching the Giants play the Cowboys is like watching the Cubs play each other.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 08, 2013, 08:15:49 pm
Watching the Giants play the Cowboys is like watching the Cubs play each other.
Yes, but either the Giants or Cowboys will finally win.  The Cubs lose all their intra-squad games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on September 14, 2013, 04:52:24 pm
I hope Jiggs isn't watching this Oregon/Tennessee game....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 14, 2013, 11:12:51 pm
2nd best game of the day...wonder what Bubba and Lulu thought of it?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 15, 2013, 01:36:40 pm
I believe the Bears Vikings game would be best described as a comedy of errors
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on September 15, 2013, 01:50:02 pm
Indeed Robb. Gonna have to tighten up in a few areas to win this game. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on September 15, 2013, 03:40:28 pm
Nice finish. Cutler actually looked good there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 05, 2013, 06:50:19 pm
No one watching Rose's first game back, eh?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 05, 2013, 07:30:06 pm
I've seen a little. Rose looks quite healthy and unrestrained. Butler looks excellent as usual (sorry).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 05, 2013, 07:43:50 pm
Bulls getting to the line a ton but shooting poorly. This could be a problem again with Hamilton, Bellinelli, and Robinson gone.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 05, 2013, 08:02:09 pm
Butler has 12 FT attempts through 3.

Rose has mainly scored in transition.

Boozer 1-5 for 2 pts and 5 fouls, so no change there.

Deng 4-16.

Gibson's probably been the best Bull.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 05, 2013, 08:04:10 pm
The Bulls should be awful strong this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 05, 2013, 08:35:02 pm
Based on one game, it appears Teague is still in Siberia.  Too bad - I think he can really be a difference-maker.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 05, 2013, 08:59:42 pm
Having Rose and Hinrich both is what hurts Teague.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 06, 2013, 05:12:45 pm
Watching Denver's offense the only thing that seems to stop them is the end of the half.  Wow how do you slow down that juggernaut?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on October 10, 2013, 10:12:28 pm
Could Vogelbach play DT for the Bears?

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 10, 2013, 10:35:58 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 12, 2013, 05:21:44 pm
Rose out for today's exhibition game with soreness in his surgically repaired knee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 12, 2013, 09:11:31 pm
Uh oh.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 17, 2013, 03:19:36 pm
Derrick Rose returned last night and looked really good. Bulls also got Noah back, but Butler sat out with a knee bruise. It's impossible to get that whole team healthy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 17, 2013, 03:52:04 pm
Knee bruise should not be a serious problem.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 18, 2013, 02:50:01 pm
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Knee bruise should not be a serious problem.

That's okay because now Noah's out at least a week with a groin injury.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 19, 2013, 03:51:17 pm
Now Hinrich has a concussion and Butler missed another game with his knee injury.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 19, 2013, 04:28:23 pm
Good thing the season hasn't started.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 19, 2013, 07:26:03 pm
The real issue with the Bulls isn't Butler and Hinrich being dinged.  Butler will be back, and Teague will outperform Hinrich if he gets on the floor.  But losing Asik a year ago has left the Bulls far weaker inside, with no depth.  I think Asik is a better player than Noah to begin with but either way, Noah has proved pretty conclusively that he can't stay on the floor, and Nazr Mohammed strikes fear into no one as a backup.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 19, 2013, 08:45:35 pm
I think he strikes fear into you as a back up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 19, 2013, 09:50:19 pm
He strikes fear into no opponent...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ron on October 20, 2013, 02:38:22 pm
Watching USA Women vs. Australia.  Damn, the USA Women are good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on October 21, 2013, 01:10:18 pm
The real issue with the Bulls isn't Butler and Hinrich being dinged.  Butler will be back, and Teague will outperform Hinrich if he gets on the floor.  But losing Asik a year ago has left the Bulls far weaker inside, with no depth.  I think Asik is a better player than Noah to begin with but either way, Noah has proved pretty conclusively that he can't stay on the floor, and Nazr Mohammed strikes fear into no one as a backup.
I don't think Asik is better than Noah...he's a good player, but not better than Noah
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 21, 2013, 03:08:47 pm
No way is Asik a better player than Noah, all apsects of the game considered.  He is more durable though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 21, 2013, 05:53:36 pm
Look at the numbers when Asik finally got a chance to play starters minutes.  And Asik does so many things that don't even show up in the numbers...  I'd take him over Noah because when it comes to the type of basketball you need to play to win in the postseason, he's a game-changer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on October 21, 2013, 08:01:56 pm
Have a chance to take my kid to the Bulls' final preseason game on Friday. But, my fear is that most regulars will get rested (either very limited minutes, or won't even suit up). Anyone have a better sense of what might happen?

Basically I want to take him to see Rose, but suspect #1 will be in a suit on the end of the bench cheering on Teague.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Exile236 on October 21, 2013, 08:56:35 pm
Clearly you don't know Thibbs very well, if you think that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on October 22, 2013, 01:11:35 pm
Look at the numbers when Asik finally got a chance to play starters minutes.  And Asik does so many things that don't even show up in the numbers...  I'd take him over Noah because when it comes to the type of basketball you need to play to win in the postseason, he's a game-changer.
ya gotta play during the regular season before you get to the playoffs....noah will get you to the playoffs, asik is not close to that kind of player. he is useful and a good player, but not as good as Noah
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 22, 2013, 01:37:09 pm
Asik is useful but has nowhere near Noah's skill set.  Noah is a better rebounder, as good a help defender, can switch to smaller players, can hit an occasional outside jumper, shoots free throws at a better rate by far, is a much better passer (probably top two in the NBA at center) can fill the lane better and oh yeah, HE CAN ACTUALLY CATCH THE BALL.  I loved Asik while he was here but he isn't anywhere near as skilled or as valuable as Noah.  About the only edge I give Asik is as a shot blocker.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 22, 2013, 04:06:57 pm
Houston liked Asik so much they signed Dwight Howard.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 22, 2013, 04:10:50 pm
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Noah is a better rebounder

I don't buy that Asik is the better player, but his rebounding rate last year was better than any in Noah's career.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 22, 2013, 05:15:49 pm
Total rebounds doesn't mean better.  Remember Noah has Bolder and Gibson alongside who are great rebounders.  That will depress Noah's numbers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 22, 2013, 06:04:24 pm
Asik averaged more rebounds and only about 1.5 PPG less than Noah despite playing about 7 less minutes per game last year, and despite the fact that the Bulls were one of the worst offensive teams in the league.  Noah is a better passer but I don't think there's another area of the game where he's all that much better than Asik.  And Asik is a far superior rebounder and defender.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 23, 2013, 11:20:20 am
Who's Bolder?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on October 23, 2013, 01:10:24 pm
give it up DEEG-no way to win this debate  ;)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on October 23, 2013, 01:42:03 pm
Who's Bolder?

Boozer?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 23, 2013, 02:04:17 pm
NBA basketball player for the Bulls.  Woo Hoo, 3 points, baby.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2013, 06:15:09 pm
give it up DEEG-no way to win this debate  ;)

I think I already did.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 29, 2013, 08:02:46 pm
Bulls getting humiliated in Miami. Excellent start to the season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 29, 2013, 08:05:13 pm
Bulls may not be challenging the Heat this season.  Big surprise.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on October 29, 2013, 08:15:02 pm
Bulls getting humiliated in Miami. Excellent start to the season.

Wait until the Cardinals win the last two at Fenway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 29, 2013, 09:19:25 pm
The Bulls are still awful talented.

They're easily a 55 to 60 win team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 29, 2013, 09:44:52 pm
Well Boozer had a big game offensively, and Butler was great. Deng and Rose stunk it up. Noah isn't ready yet physically.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 30, 2013, 12:17:49 am
This game ably proves the already-proved point that preseason means jack.  However, to write off the Bulls' chances based on one game to start the season is ludicrous beyond belief.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on October 30, 2013, 06:57:47 am
You can be sure the Bulls will not be humiliated like this next time these two teams meet.  Chris pretty well summed it up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 30, 2013, 07:46:09 am
Mind you, if Miami is healthy the Bulls still aren't close to beating them in a 7-game series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 30, 2013, 11:41:34 am
I disagree Deeg.  If Miami and the Bulls are healthy come playoff time I give the Bulls a 40/60 chance of upsetting the Heat.  I didn't see anything last night to make me believe otherwise.  I will say this, if Shane Battier is going to shoot 100% from three this season and the Heat in general are going to shoot 55% from three as a team as they did last night then just skip the season now.  Something tells me they will revert to the norm though which last year was .just under 40%. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on October 30, 2013, 01:10:13 pm
Well Boozer had a big game offensively, and Butler was great. Deng and Rose stunk it up. Noah isn't ready yet physically.
Too bad we didn't have Asik instead of Noah
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 30, 2013, 07:09:36 pm
I disagree Deeg.  If Miami and the Bulls are healthy come playoff time I give the Bulls a 40/60 chance of upsetting the Heat.  I didn't see anything last night to make me believe otherwise.  I will say this, if Shane Battier is going to shoot 100% from three this season and the Heat in general are going to shoot 55% from three as a team as they did last night then just skip the season now.  Something tells me they will revert to the norm though which last year was .just under 40%. 

Just don't see it, Robb.  The Bulls are basically the same team that lost to the Heat 2 years ago, less Asik and plus Dunleavey.  They have no second scoring option and they aren't athletic enough.  If you can stop Rose you can stop the Bulls - and in the 4th quarter, the Heat can shut Rose down.

The last time the Bulls were a threat to Miami was before Asik got hurt, in that second game where no one scored for about 5 minutes in the fourth quarter for either team.  The Bulls aren't going to score on Miami late so their best bet was to go all-in on stopping them, and they were a defensive firewall with Asik, Gibson and Deng up-front.  Then Asik got hurt and that series was effectively over.  Until the Bulls get a second guy who can create his own shot and more overall athleticism, I don't see them as a threat to a healthy Heat team in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 30, 2013, 07:26:34 pm
Don't know if the Bulls can beat Miami but Butler is an enormous upgrade from whatever they trotted out there at 2-guard three seasons ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 31, 2013, 07:35:24 pm
Rose just looks terrible right now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on November 01, 2013, 03:09:16 pm
But he looks healthy and fearless. The rust will go away.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 01, 2013, 07:14:27 pm
But he looks healthy and fearless. The rust will go away.

Indeed it will.  I'm not worried about Rose - I'm worried that the same Rose with a better supporting cast was never really a match for Miami in the postseason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 02, 2013, 12:58:20 am
Rose looks healthy but I haven't seen the supposed explosion the media (and Rose) keeps yapping about. And his shot has been terrible. He seems to have all but given up on the mid-range and floaters, his game-winner not withstanding.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 02, 2013, 09:32:16 am
That will come as well Chris.  He needs to have a season to gain game confidence in his off-season work.  Luckily the playoffs don't start until April.  If nothing has changed by then I'll worry.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 02, 2013, 09:53:37 am
If anything concerns me about Rose, it's the nagging injuries.  People forget now because of the knee, but Rose was basically in and out of the lineup for the entire season with a dizzying array of injuries.  Now we're two games in and he's already having neck issues.  If Rose is unable to stay healthy generally, never mind the knee, this may be a career-long issue for him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on November 02, 2013, 08:39:09 pm
The Bulls are probably not the NBA's worst team, but they are definitely in the discussion.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 02, 2013, 08:46:18 pm
They are sloppy. 1-2, should be 0-3. Will be 1-3 after Indiana kicks them around the next game.

Blowing 20-point leads is probably a cause of concern.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on November 02, 2013, 08:54:03 pm
At least they're not the Cubs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 02, 2013, 08:54:30 pm
Rose 4-14, 8 TO's.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 02, 2013, 09:05:17 pm
Even after the Bulls win 55 games, some on this board will still be calling them one of the worst teams in the league.  But in the end it would probably be better anyway if they didn't come close this season, because maybe that will finally shake Paxson out of his stupor and make him understand that this group isn't good enough - he needs to blow up the core and take some chances to try and be a great team rather than a good one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 02, 2013, 09:27:06 pm
55-or 65 wins they'll not go far in the playoffs like usual.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 06, 2013, 08:29:07 pm
The Bulls look terrible across the board.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 07, 2013, 09:30:43 am
http://www.sj-r.com/breaking/x450317463/Man-uses-stun-gun-on-wife-to-settle-Bears-Packers-bet

Oh, they were drinking.  Now it makes sense.  :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 10, 2013, 02:32:55 pm
I can't watch the NFL anymore. They just took a clear Bears' TD away for no reason. That league sucks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on November 10, 2013, 04:53:53 pm
I can't watch the NFL anymore. They just took a clear Bears' TD away for no reason. That league sucks.

Yep. And no way should Cutler play as long as he did.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on November 11, 2013, 12:36:58 pm
cutler should not have played period....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on November 11, 2013, 12:44:56 pm
cutler should not have played period....

Can't say I don't agree with that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on November 11, 2013, 01:05:08 pm
cutler should not have played period....

Is that last word the reason he shouldn't have played?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 11, 2013, 05:09:08 pm
Is that last word the reason he shouldn't have played?

How anyone can still be doubting Cutler's toughness is utterly mystifying.  Call him an A-hole if you want - he acts like one sometimes - but surviving what he's been through the last few years and playing hurt as often as he has, the guy has proved his toughness beyond all doubts.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 11, 2013, 05:35:44 pm
The Bears board was unreadable yesterday...idiots saying he was in there playing for a contract, and insisting on playing hurt...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 11, 2013, 06:57:01 pm
The  first drive he looked good. Best he has looked all year then it went down hill. He should have been pulled at halftime.

Then again the Bears getting two TD's taken away one drive, not kicking the FG in the first half, the non late hit calls on Cutler...etc sealed their fate for 2013.

They weren't going far with that defense anyway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on November 11, 2013, 10:27:27 pm
How anyone can still be doubting Cutler's toughness is utterly mystifying.  Call him an A-hole if you want - he acts like one sometimes - but surviving what he's been through the last few years and playing hurt as often as he has, the guy has proved his toughness beyond all doubts.

It was just a bad joke.  I'm not even a bears fan.

The team for which I root got humiliated by the Saints Sunday night and hasn't won a meaningful playoff game since their drunk owner mouthed off in an Orlando bar twenty something years ago.

OK, so they won one Super Bowl after that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 11, 2013, 10:39:53 pm
I'm at the point where I think the Bears should make an effort to draft Manziel.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 11, 2013, 11:16:11 pm
AJ McCarron late...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 11, 2013, 11:20:04 pm
I'd kind of would like to see the Titans wind up with McCarron, myself.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 12, 2013, 12:43:49 am
I like McCarron too. Not sure if he can be elite though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 13, 2013, 08:08:11 am
Interesting analysis of Rose's problems so far:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/derrick-rose-needs-act-point-guard-171500966--nba.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 13, 2013, 04:57:10 pm
Interesting analysis of Rose's problems so far:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/derrick-rose-needs-act-point-guard-171500966--nba.html


The problem is that the Bulls don't really have a lot of other scoring options to take the pressure off Rose unless they're willing to heavily use Boozer in the post, which they're not.  Boozer is the only other frontline offensive player on the roster, pretty much, and he can't be that without a lot of help the Bulls and Rose aren't willing to give him during crunch time (if he's even on the floor).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 13, 2013, 07:34:29 pm
Jimmy Butler ain't the answer at the 2 either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 13, 2013, 08:18:02 pm
I like McCarron too. Not sure if he can be elite though.
\

Aaron Rodgers wasnt elite enough for 23 teams too...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 14, 2013, 01:52:25 pm
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Aaron Rodgers wasnt elite enough for 23 teams too...

Rogers was a big-time pro prospect, a 1st-round talent. McCarron isn't considered to be anywhere near that at the moment. A better potential comparison would be Brady.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on November 14, 2013, 02:33:21 pm
Rogers was expected to go early first round.  He was sitting there.  Awkwardly.  Worked out well for him in the end, though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 14, 2013, 06:14:58 pm
AJ has great accuracy. makes good decisions... getting him late in the first would be a lot better then going after a system QB like mariota who will probably go in the top 5.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 14, 2013, 07:32:51 pm
Not to mention leadership qualities that are off the chart...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on November 14, 2013, 07:36:49 pm

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-5284f301/turbine/chi-nba-bulls-short-sleeve-jerseys-20131114-001/600)

Bulls getting short-sleeve jerseys for Christmas

Tribune report - 1:44 p.m. CST, November 14, 2013

What does the NBA have up its sleeve for Christmas Day? It's a present that fans with a taste for tradition just might want to return.

Special "Big Logo" uniforms will be worn by the Bulls and the other nine teams that will be playing on the holiday. Designed by Adidas, the uniforms "feature team logos in reflective chrome as the focal point on the short-sleeve jerseys."

Yep, short-sleeve jerseys, as modeled by Derrick Rose and other stars in the league's ad campaign.

The NBA also  is publicizing the roll-out with a TV commerical titled “Jingle Hoops” that features Rose, the Heat’s LeBron James, the Thunder’s Kevin Durant, the Rockets’ James Harden, the Lakers’ Steve Nash and the Warriors’ Stephen Curry -- all in short sleeves -- hitting choreographed three-pointers to the tune of “One-horse Open Sleigh.”

The Bulls will open the day's slate of five NBA games at 11 a.m. CT against the Brooklyn Nets. The new NBA gear is available for purchase by fans beginning today.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-nba-bulls-short-sleeve-jerseys-20131114,0,1007003.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-nba-bulls-short-sleeve-jerseys-20131114,0,1007003.story)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on November 17, 2013, 06:11:24 am
Impressive win by the Bulls over the undefeated Pacers. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 22, 2013, 11:23:21 pm
This Bulls team sucks. What a garbage performance tonight as they blow a 21-point lead.

Rose hurt his leg again. How long will he be out this time? Maybe it's time to say goodbye to Paxson. This team has really no good players, especially on the bench these days.

Probably be looking for a new head coach after this failure of a season is over with. If Mike Dunleavy is your big move of the offseason, you know you will be in for a long year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 23, 2013, 12:46:37 am
Well, at least it was the other knee...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 23, 2013, 01:49:28 am
You kinda start to wonder how things are gonna play out for D Rose`s career.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 23, 2013, 02:44:17 am
Reports spreading that the Bulls fear an ACL tear in his right knee. Sickening.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 23, 2013, 03:15:47 am
It makes you wonder if Rose simply has a congenital weakness in the support structures of the knee.  People do - it's just that the average person who doesn't do what Rose does for a living will go through their lives never knowing it.

Well - all we can do is hope this is miraculously not another torn ACL, and the initial diagnosis is off (which it almost never is).  It really is unlikely he'll ever be the same player if indeed it is the ACL.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 23, 2013, 06:02:45 am
I really hope if it is his ACL that they blow this team up and tank the rest of this season.  Trade Deng, Boozer, Noah and Hinrich for whatever you can get so long as it comes off the books next year.  A core of Butler, Gibson and Mirotic will be a good start coupled with a good pick in next year's draft or two. (If Charlotte keeps improving the Bulls get their pick next year as well).  Sadly Rose's days as a top five player are probably over and even with him this team was poorly conceived.  You can't have only one guy on the team who can create their own shot.  Watching Portland last night I was astounded how many guys they have who simply bury every open shot they get.  Yet Thibs continued to double Aldridge every damn play throwing the defense out of their rotations.   The one time they didn't double Aldridge Gibson forced him into a ridiculous fade away.  Stupid.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 23, 2013, 04:37:17 pm
Bulls guard Derrick Rose sustained an injury to his right knee against the Portland Trail Blazers on Friday night. Subsequent examinations and an MRI confirmed a medial meniscus tear to his right knee, which will require surgery. Rose is out indefinitely, and will not accompany the team on the rest of its current road trip.

Blow the team up and donate Rose's body to science.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 23, 2013, 04:52:46 pm
Rose is probably done for the year, but that injury isn't as bad as another ACL. In theory, anyway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 23, 2013, 06:13:04 pm
In the big picture, this is very good news.  Another ACL would have brought us close to Grant Hill territory.  For the average player, this would be a 2-4 month injury.  Given Rose's history obviously they'll be very conservative but he should certainly play again this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 23, 2013, 07:37:57 pm
It depends on what they do in surgery.  If they remove it he will be back in 4 to 8 weeks.  If they repair it he will be beack in 4-6 months which basically means next season.  The difference is that removing it will shorten his career.  If they can repair it he will be able to come back the same player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 23, 2013, 08:24:59 pm
It depends on what they do in surgery.  If they remove it he will be back in 4 to 8 weeks.  If they repair it he will be beack in 4-6 months which basically means next season.  The difference is that removing it will shorten his career.  If they can repair it he will be able to come back the same player.

It's not that simple.  Technology is way ahead of where it was when Wade had his procedure done, and he shouldn't be used as a template.  Also, a medial meniscus tear is less severe than a lateral tear.

It really all depends on how severe the tear is - which they won't know until they actually do the surgery.  If the tear is small enough there are procedures that can be done that can get Rose back on the floor in 6-8 weeks without removing the meniscus entirely.  I'm sure the Bulls will be cautious and take the conservative path, but I'd be very surprised of Rose isn't back on the floor at least a month before the playoffs.  And in any event, this isn't the sort of injury that should threaten a career.

This represents a huge opportunity for Teague to show that he belongs in the NBA.  If he takes advantage of it that could be big for the Bulls, long-term.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 24, 2013, 04:38:10 pm
JR, I caught the end of the Vandy-Tennessee game yesterday.  Man, if it weren't for replay, Vanderbilt would have screwed by one of the worst spots ever.  Holy smokes, one could see immediately that the linesman was over a YARD off!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2013, 05:21:50 pm
LOL
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 24, 2013, 06:48:42 pm
JR, I caught the end of the Vandy-Tennessee game yesterday.  Man, if it weren't for replay, Vanderbilt would have screwed by one of the worst spots ever.  Holy smokes, one could see immediately that the linesman was over a YARD off!

Yeah that was awful.  Like you said, that would have gone down as typical Vandy luck in past years if it wasn't for replay. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2013, 07:05:34 pm
My Big Orange have went to hell in the past several years.

Truth being told Vandy had the better team but we did give it away.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 24, 2013, 07:45:36 pm
JR and Jiggy, I have no dog in the fight.  I just saw some bad officiating.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 24, 2013, 10:00:25 pm
That would have gone down as typical UT home cooking if not for replay.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 24, 2013, 10:21:32 pm
Rose reportedly leaning towards reattachment surgery and the end of his season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 25, 2013, 03:04:01 pm
Bulls confirm Rose is done for the year after surgery on his knee today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 25, 2013, 03:38:11 pm
He's babying it.  Should play again by Friday.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 25, 2013, 08:25:30 pm
Blow it up!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 25, 2013, 10:36:03 pm
Bulls losing to the 1-14 Jazz. In Overtime.

Yes, blow it up. Get rid of everyone you can, including the coaches. This team is done for.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 25, 2013, 10:44:16 pm
Make that the 2-14 Jazz.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 26, 2013, 07:24:35 am
This season is all about the next four or five seasons.  The more this team competes, the worse off their future will be.  The rebuild could be a reload like the Spurs did with Robinson and Duncan if they tank this season.  But they need to do it right.  Someone needs to give Noah a few pairs of those French shoes so his plascia heats up.  Trade Deng and Hinrich and Dunleavy.  Start the rookies, start anyone you can find in the D league.  Do it all the way. Next year you have Mirotic, Derrick (probably not the same but still a good player), Gibson, Butler, Noah, A solid Charlotte pick if they keep up their solid play and whatever return you get in trades.  This could be a fast reload if a few things go right.  If not then the core is still young.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 29, 2013, 05:32:53 pm
Man I didn't realize just how big of an **** Bo Pelini was until today.  He was just plain rude and disrespectful to the ABC correspondent during halftime today, and the soundbites from his press conference after the game were pretty ridiculous.

I'm sure there are plenty of Nebraska fans who will be telling Pelini not to let the door hit him on the ass on the way out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 29, 2013, 09:29:45 pm
Here's one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on November 29, 2013, 10:29:02 pm
He may be an @ss (he is) but I'm not sure they can get a coach that can win more than he has with the current state of that program.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 30, 2013, 08:52:45 pm
$80 million and Carlos Boozer can't make an uncontested layup a foot from the basket that would've gotten the Bulls into OT. I'll throw a party when he's gone.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 01, 2013, 03:13:26 am
Carlos Boozer is far from the problems with these guys.

Having players like Mike Dunleavy, Nazr Mohammed, Mike James, and Kirk Hinrich are the bigger problems.

They weren't winning this season with Rose healthy or not anyway so we shouldn't be shocked why they suck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 01, 2013, 05:33:25 am
You think Mike James and Nazr Mohammed with their 8 minutes of combined PT per game are bigger issues than Boozer and his $80M of ineptitude? Those guys are all backups or third-stringers. They add to good teams but don't play much of a role in making them.

I'm not blaming Boozer for all the team's problems---that would be stupid. He is irritating to watch, however.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 01, 2013, 04:23:59 pm
Boozer is a horrible defender and sometimes lazy but he is second on the team with points scored and leads the team with rebounds. With his size he should be slamming the ball down not missing layup after layup.

My point is this team has no depth. The bench, what was their strong point two seasons ago is gone. This team is nothing. They were nothing with Rose and nothing without Rose this season.

It's all done.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 01, 2013, 05:01:20 pm
Lost in the Saban bashing on many college football boards is the gutsy decision by Michigan for going for two yesterday.  Would have been sweet.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 01, 2013, 05:07:03 pm
Horrible decision. IMHO.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 01, 2013, 05:50:09 pm
I said "gutsy," I didn't say "smart"

I'm not an Ohio State or Michigan fan, but I respect going for the win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 01, 2013, 06:50:32 pm
Gutsy and understandable because Michigan's defense couldn't stop anything.

It was just the wrong call. Three defenders in the area. Ohio State had that sniffed out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 01, 2013, 07:57:22 pm
Michigan also didn't have a FG kicker.  I liked going for 2, but it was a horrible call.  They should have given Gardner a run/pass option on a roll out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on December 01, 2013, 07:59:16 pm
exactly, CBJ. right game call, poor play call.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on December 02, 2013, 01:11:51 pm
exactly, CBJ. right game call, poor play call.
Gutsy call, yes...The Michigan coach is there to beat Ohio St each and every year and he had the balls to go for it instead of roll the dice and go into OT. Bad play selection but great call by the coach. Michigan had nothing to lose by going for it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 02, 2013, 10:26:59 pm
Bulls lose in triple OT to New Orleans.

Wonder if they can tank enough to end up with get in the high end of the lottery.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 03, 2013, 01:59:25 am
Play Hinrich 53 minutes a few more times and they'll have to hold him together with rubber bands.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on December 05, 2013, 07:27:42 pm
Jaguars 44, Texans 14

Bob McNair fellates Gary Kubiak, gives him a ten year extension, and begs him for forgiveness.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 10, 2013, 02:08:02 pm
A bunch of rumors out of Texas that Saban will replace Brown.  If that happens their AD is amazing and Texas may not lose for years.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 10, 2013, 07:23:38 pm
Noah out for the Bulls with a leg issue. Deng out as well.

Tonight's starting lineup is Hinrich, Boozer, Dunleavy, Mohammed, and Snell.

The Bulls should have to pay the customers to watch that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 10, 2013, 08:39:03 pm
Sorry I'm missing it.  Hopefully the Bulls are extra careful with these injuries.  They sit all their starters for the season, just in case.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on December 10, 2013, 08:52:00 pm
Blackhawks spankin the Dallas Stars 5-0, 8:46 2nd period,
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 10, 2013, 10:35:07 pm
Well, the Bulls piled up 74 points in their home loss to the 4-16 Bucks.

Thibs will end up in the nuthouse.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 11, 2013, 12:17:17 am
Hinrich with 4 points in 76 minutes over the last two games, on 1-21 shooting.  I can't imagine there have been all that many 1-21s in NBA history.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 11, 2013, 10:55:14 am
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A bunch of rumors out of Texas that Saban will replace Brown.  If that happens their AD is amazing and Texas may not lose for years.

Yeah they wouldn't lose for years ... as in the 4-5 years or so Saban would stay until someone else paid him more money.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 11, 2013, 12:15:21 pm
If someone offered you a 30-40% pay increase to do the same job would you turn it down?  The only problem for Saban in Texas is it would be almost too easy and he might get bored.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 11, 2013, 12:47:17 pm
Saban may leave Bama but it wont be because they didnt put forth every effort in the world to keep him.

Kirby Smart is praying to God he leaves.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 15, 2013, 01:21:27 pm
I turned on the tv and saw Cleveland get a pick six.  As Goc is my witness, I said, "Oh, Cutler must be playing."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 16, 2013, 09:30:36 pm
The Bulls finally scored over 79 points.  They lost to the Magic.

This team is the most useless and boring team in the  NBA.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 17, 2013, 12:01:11 am
I hope they stay useless all the way to the end.  It will be best for their future.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 17, 2013, 12:20:01 am
I think trading Deng for whatever you can get makes the most sense, since they're going to lose him for nothing after the season. With his salary off the books and using amnesty on Boozer, they should be able to sign Mirotic and add one 2nd tier FA. And remove Deng from this roster, it's probably a lottery team. If you can add a LIAB candidate for Deng, even if it's Waiters, you have some potential rebuilding pieces.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 17, 2013, 01:44:14 am
Here's a scouting video (http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Revisiting-Nikola-Mirotic-Scouting-Video--4376) on Mirotic, possibly the best realistic hope the Bulls have any kind of short-term future.  Currently at 15/6 in 22 MPG for Real Madrid, shooting 63% and 50% from deep.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robert L on January 01, 2014, 06:53:05 pm
Touchdown MSU
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robert L on January 01, 2014, 07:33:46 pm
SPARTANS   WIN!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on January 01, 2014, 08:15:19 pm
The most underrated program in major college sports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 01, 2014, 08:21:05 pm
I would have loved to see Ohio State play Alabama...at least one pompous dude would go down.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on January 01, 2014, 09:57:38 pm
Alabama would destroy Ohio State.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 01, 2014, 10:18:26 pm
and that would break my heart, heh heh heh
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on January 02, 2014, 09:38:18 am
Cutler signs 7 year deal....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: papa smurf on January 02, 2014, 09:47:29 am
sec 4-1 in bowls so far with 4 left to play
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 02, 2014, 09:53:25 am
Cutler signs 7 year deal....
with who?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 02, 2014, 10:12:37 am
sec 4-1 in bowls so far with 4 left to play
And the one loss was to Nebraska.  Holy shiite.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on January 02, 2014, 11:55:21 am
with who?
Da Bears
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 02, 2014, 01:37:23 pm
Da Bears
Oh the horror!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: dogstoothe on January 04, 2014, 11:11:44 pm
Look out now, the curse is lifted.  On the road to victory.  The black and gold, baby, and a shout out to Boris.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: papa smurf on January 05, 2014, 08:13:41 am
the Saints have won!!!  And being a Saints fan I am worried about the next game but who knows. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 06, 2014, 11:55:38 pm
Deng traded to Cleveland - no word on return, though Waiters is presumably involved.  Let the teardown begin and, I suspect, the end of the Thibodeaux era.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2014, 12:00:46 am
Looks like no Waiters - purely a cap relief move, Bynum (who'll be released) and a pick.  Boozer and Thibs both gone at the end of the year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 07, 2014, 01:02:11 am
You dont know that Thibodeau is gone though Boozer likely is. I aint heartbroke over losing Luol either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2014, 01:21:50 am
With the Adams firing as the writing on the wall, it was always only a matter of time before the feud between Thibs and Foreman reached untenable levels.  Thibs' man-love for Deng is beyond the pale - he'll see this as another show across his bow, and he won't be entirely wrong.

I'm not heartbroken over losing Deng either.  Not because he isn't a nice player - he is - but because it's clear the Bulls were never going to win a title with him as the second piece.  With all the protections in place it's unlikely we'll get an impact player from any of the first-rounders owed us, though I suppose it's possible the Bulls could slip into the lottery now and get really, really lucky with the balls.  More likely is they make a hard run at Carmelo Anthony and try and bring Mirotic over.  Might Rose never come back close to what he was?  It's possible, maybe even likely - but they have to strategize as if he will, because if he's not back to being their top piece they're so **** that a complete rebuilt with the early 2020's in mind is probably the only viable option.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2014, 03:38:14 am
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The Bulls acquired the right to the Sacramento Kings’ first-round pick, which is top-12 protected in 2014, top-10 protected from 2015-17 and then becomes a second-round pick if not used by then, and two second-round picks the Cavaliers had acquired from the Trail Blazers in 2015 and 2016.

Also, the Bulls have the right to swap their own 2015 first-round pick with the Cavaliers only in the case the Cleveland pick is between 15 and 30.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2014, 03:39:12 am
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More likely is they make a hard run at Carmelo Anthony

Why on earth would they want Anthony? He's a selfish, one-dimensional player who has never won jack.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2014, 04:30:10 am
Because he's the best FA available and the Bulls front-office has always liked him.  And he'd undeniably give the Bulls the second legit scorer they've never had since Rose got to town, and don't have the means to get any other way.  They'd have to shed a little more salary to make it happen, but I expect them to try.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2014, 04:43:19 am
Anthony does not seem like a Forman/Paxson type player at all to me.

Bulls have all these picks but nobody in the top three or so is going to trade down.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2014, 08:31:51 am
Not for second-round picks, which is all they really have.  Everything else is conditional and the Sacramento pick won't even be a first-rounder if they don't make the playoffs by 2017.  And at this point, I think you've have to say Cleveland is likely to be better than the Bulls in 2015, when the chance to swap picks is on the table.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2014, 06:32:09 pm
Now they're making it sound like Mirotic won't be coming next year. Plus, Gibson and Noah are not exactly happy with Deng being gone. Rose and his doctor might be all that's left pretty soon.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 07, 2014, 07:47:36 pm
Its not like its the end of the world that Luol is gone. I know this season is a lost cause but theres no reason in the world that we should become a lottery level team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 08, 2014, 07:35:56 am
With Taj, Noah and Butler and Rose this is not a team without assets.  Add in the Charlotte pick and Bulls ick this year along with Nicola and a possible free agent and suddenly the Bulls are rebuilt.  I don't understand the pessimism.  This was a great move for the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 08, 2014, 04:37:12 pm
Robb, Rose has blown out two knees now. What is he really going to be from here on out?

Mirotic may not play for the Bulls until '15.

Most of those picks are going to be in the 15-25 range or in the 2nd round. Probably not going to get instant help there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 08, 2014, 06:49:17 pm
Rose looked just fine athletically this year before the mcl tear, which is a much easier injury to return from.  I'm actually more worried about how tentative he'll be than I am his health next ear.  Mid range picks can have value as well.  This front office has done a great job in the draft even though they've been picking in the 20's.  I' love to see what they can do in the teens.  Mirotic is a great example of this.  How about getting Butler and Mirotic in the same draft picking no better than 23?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 08, 2014, 07:17:30 pm
It's a seventh man and a theoretical prospect - I wouldn't call that draft a bonanza yet.

I think you have to move Hinrich and Dunleavey too, whatever you need to do to get enough space for a max free agent. And hopefully get into the lottery.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on January 09, 2014, 01:16:25 am
The Bulls drafted Taj Gibson with the 26th pick in the 2009 draft.  The Bulls historically do fairly well drafting in the second half of the 1st round.  The find good players.  Unfortunately in the last 15+ years, there are no potential franchise players that last that long in the draft.

 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 09, 2014, 01:25:50 am
Yes, they do very well finding decent role players late.  Snell could be another one.  But the lack of decent role players has never been the Bulls problem - stars win titles in the NBA.  It's a lot easier with three but you pretty much have to find at least two, and even if you assume Rose is going to get back to being one of them (and the Bulls have no choice) you aren't going to find another one with any of the picks they have coming up unless they completely tank and get lucky in the lottery with their own pick.

I see more moves coming to try and get a max FA, because this coming offseason is likely the only chance they'll have.  Houston is interested in Dunleavey, and you could find a taker for Hinrich.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 11, 2014, 11:53:12 pm
Don't look now but the Bulls have won 5 straight. I'd have never guessed it but DJ Augustin has really played well for them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 12, 2014, 12:15:16 am
You can never knock Thibs for the effort he gets from his guys, under any situation.  He's basically an anti-tank gun.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ron on January 20, 2014, 09:51:33 am
An entertaining video in which Richard Sherman (who is a very interesting guy, it turns out) puts down our old friend Skip Bayless. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt-WarABaJs
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 20, 2014, 09:59:08 am
Richard Sherman just made up for that post game interview in my mind, haha.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 20, 2014, 10:49:56 am
Speaking of Richard Sherman, here's a pretty fun little article.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tommytomlinson/2014/01/19/22-brief-thoughts-about-that-richard-sherman-interview/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/tommytomlinson/2014/01/19/22-brief-thoughts-about-that-richard-sherman-interview/)

Among the 22 brief thoughts . . .

Quote
4. Sherman graduated second in his class in high school and also graduated from Stanford. So not only is he not a fool, odds are he’s smarter than you and me.

5. His degree from Stanford was in communications … which might explain why, while he seemed to be hollering like a crazy person, he didn’t curse and looked into the camera the whole time.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 20, 2014, 10:50:47 am
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13. As a side note: Richard Sherman also called out Skip Bayless on Bayless’ own show, which trumps pretty much anything bad that Richard Sherman has done in his life.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 20, 2014, 05:12:14 pm
Sherman graduated with a 3.9 from Stanford - but bear in mind the only grades you can receive under their grading system are "A" or "B".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on January 25, 2014, 06:05:31 am
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/10346582/2013-nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-ticket-prices-continue-plummet
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 13, 2014, 07:50:07 am
Team U.S.A. is destroying Team Slovakia 7-1 late 2nd period.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 13, 2014, 08:39:29 am
No one cares.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 13, 2014, 09:20:16 am
Betcha Team Slovakia cares.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 13, 2014, 09:29:56 am
I don't watch that much olympic coverage except for hockey, just posted for **** n' grins... ;D
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on February 13, 2014, 12:40:19 pm
Wow. **** doesn't get censored?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 13, 2014, 12:45:27 pm
No, just g a m b l e.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 13, 2014, 12:45:35 pm
Wow. **** doesn't get censored?
whoa...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 13, 2014, 12:51:17 pm
Wow. **** doesn't get censored?
No, just g a m b l e.
Or were you referring to Davep?  My bad.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 13, 2014, 04:19:30 pm
Don't think gamble does anymore...

Or ****, or pretty much anything else...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 13, 2014, 04:46:06 pm
Does Dxxxp?  Oh good.  It does.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on February 20, 2014, 01:52:17 pm


(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/l/t1/1912247_294548797359769_1289674234_n.jpg)



Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 28, 2014, 12:14:25 am
According to ESPN, the Bulls are close to signing Jimmer Fredette.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 28, 2014, 01:25:33 am
It cant hurt. I wish they were more concerned with extending Thibodeaux though. He's as good as it gets.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on February 28, 2014, 07:29:44 am
My favorite player from my alma mater with my favorite team.  :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on February 28, 2014, 04:27:29 pm


      (http://cdn2-www.hoopsvibe.com/assets/uploads/2013/02/file_170597_0_michael-jordan-cigar.jpg)

Michael Jordan earned more in 2013 than nearly any active athlete

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-sp-sn-michael-jordan-90-million-20140228,0,6892675.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-sp-sn-michael-jordan-90-million-20140228,0,6892675.story)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 28, 2014, 10:00:52 pm
The Bulls win in Dallas against the red-hot Mavs. They've won 8 of 9 and have the most wins in the East since the start of '14.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 01, 2014, 06:46:10 pm
Nick Friedell ‏@NickFriedell  2h
Jimmer Fredette has officially cleared waivers and will sign with the Bulls, according to a league source.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 01, 2014, 07:28:45 pm
He cant hurt.

We need shooters.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 01, 2014, 07:57:04 pm
Both statements are true, but hard to see who he takes minutes from unless someone gets hurt.  OTOH with Hinrich that's a when and not an if.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 09, 2014, 02:39:16 pm
The Bulls aren't going to win anything this year, but I sure love watching Jimmy Butler play.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 09, 2014, 04:14:40 pm
Noah has really blossomed with the offense running through him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 09, 2014, 04:50:03 pm
There isn't a better basketball coach in America than Tom Thibodeau.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on March 20, 2014, 02:07:45 pm
Dayton 60, Ohio State 59

A high percentage of the entrants in the billion dollar bracket challenge are already busted.

Ohio State's #10 could have blocked Dayton's winning shot but it looked like he was afraid of a goaltending call and pulled his hand back.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 23, 2014, 08:33:34 pm
Boy how many of you had my Big Orange in the sweet 16? I know I didnt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 07, 2014, 09:20:53 pm
Bulls re-sign Ronnie Brewer. Can Bogans be far behind?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 19, 2014, 06:04:01 pm
I hate to see the Hawks lose to the Blues, but it appears all but inevitable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on April 21, 2014, 07:06:20 am
I hate to see the Hawks lose to the Blues, but it appears all but inevitable.

Blues seem to have their number, that's for sure.  Hawks definitely not playing with the intensity the Blues have been.  Obviously a "must win" scenario tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 21, 2014, 10:31:58 am
What a crappy playoff week it's been for Chicago sports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 21, 2014, 12:56:22 pm
No kidding, Robb.

Blackhawks game tonight will be interesting (just a bit of understatement there). Will Blues headhunt/retaliate and/or will Blackhawks get caught up in that type of play if St. Louis goes that route? If so, the Hawks are dumb and deserve whatever happens. Hopefully the Blackhawks remember who they are, and use skill and speed and focus on puck possession  (especially when it looks as though Backes won't play for St. Louis, and so the Blues just won't have very much skill on the ice to begin with).

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 21, 2014, 01:00:16 pm
I expect the Hawks to get swept.  Their coach lost his cool (obscene gesture), and a team leader lost his cool.  They are just not championship material (and haven't played like real contenders for most of the season, IMO).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 21, 2014, 03:24:27 pm
Eh, I don't think Seabrook lost his cool. Just went for a big hit and missed too high. It happens occasionally.

I agree about the Hawks' play this year, and Toews and Kane being at less than 100% doesn't help matters.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 21, 2014, 03:35:11 pm
Blackhawks have played all year like a team who believed they could flip the switch in the playoffs.  They do have the elite talent to do that, but it seems like a pretty bad idea to wait until now to find out.
 
And Kane in particular looks pretty compromised by his injury.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Pistol on April 22, 2014, 07:08:32 pm
Is there any way to watch the NBA playoffs online?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 22, 2014, 07:26:32 pm
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Is there any way to watch the NBA playoffs online?

http://fırstrowsports.eu/basketball
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 22, 2014, 09:32:42 pm
http://fırstrowsports.eu/basketball

The king of popup ads... I always worry about virii with that site.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 22, 2014, 10:09:38 pm
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The king of popup ads...

Don't you have Ad-Block? I've yet to encounter an issue with the site.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 22, 2014, 11:17:08 pm
The Bulls just don't have anyone who can score when the shyte goes down. And adding Rose back in isn't going to be enough.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 22, 2014, 11:31:04 pm
Refs deserves at least 50% of the credit for that result.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 22, 2014, 11:33:32 pm
In the long run it's probably better if Paxson is under no delusions that this team is remotely close to being a contender.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 22, 2014, 11:45:34 pm
Paxson doesn't have the wallet. It's Reinsdorf who won't pay for a winner.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 23, 2014, 01:00:17 am
That's really not the biggest problem here by a long shot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 23, 2014, 01:16:55 am
I'd say it's 50/50.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 23, 2014, 01:42:58 am
The Bulls were 5th in the league in payroll this year and they were over the tax threshold last season and would have been again without trading Deng.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 23, 2014, 03:55:40 pm
They don't want to be over the threshold which is why they dumped Deng for next to nothing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 23, 2014, 07:22:27 pm
They don't want to be over the threshold which is why they dumped Deng for next to nothing.

Being over the threshold two years in a row magnifies the penalties exponentially, so it's not hard to understand why they'd trade Deng rather than lose him as a FA and get nothing back at all.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 23, 2014, 10:26:48 pm
Trading Deng was a brilliant move.  Their offense and defense improved when he left.  He did nothing for Cleveland.  He was a system player, nothing more.  He was certainly not worth keeping for the repeater tax.  If the Bulls wanted to have any shot at an impact player in free agency, they had to get rid of Deng's salary. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 23, 2014, 10:40:57 pm
Trading Deng for next to nothing isn't brilliant. And it probably should be remembered that the Bulls had the best defense in the league two of the years Deng was there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 23, 2014, 10:42:18 pm
Or you could have kept him and let him leave for no return whatsoever, gone into the repeater tax and torpedoed any chance of making an impact move in FA this offseason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 23, 2014, 10:43:27 pm
Blackhawks blew a 2 goal lead in about 2 minutes.  Geesh, it's a Chicago epidemic.  I think I need a break from sports for a while.  Either that or I need to become a Heat fan.  They got guys like Norris Coles and Birdman Anderson playing out of their minds for them and if anything goes wrong they can just drive the ball into an opponent and flop for free throws.  Ugh what a week.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 23, 2014, 10:44:59 pm
Once Rose went down any chance of sniffing a title went with him.  At that point paying the repeater tax would have been as dumb as giving Soriano an 8 year contract.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 24, 2014, 06:47:42 am
I guess I was wrong about the Hawks getting swept.  Still it's going to be tough to win in St. Louis.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on April 24, 2014, 01:05:44 pm
hawks in 7
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 25, 2014, 09:38:09 pm
8 threes for Dunleavy, breaking Jordan's playoff franchise record.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 26, 2014, 08:56:46 am
So for the Bulls to win, they need Dunleavy to hit 8 threes and for Nene to get tossed. That doesn't seem like a sound strategy going forward.
Thibs will probably figure out something else.

And TSN had this to say about the Blackhawks:
Including last year's playoffs, in games 1,2 & 3 of each series the Hawks have a 7 - 8 record.

In games 4,5,6 & 7 the Hawks have a record of 12 - 1.

Once the Hawks figure you out, its over.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 26, 2014, 10:22:44 am
I'm not so confident that past performance is highly predictive.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 26, 2014, 10:43:38 am
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I'm not so confident that past performance is highly predictive.

Now just how long have you been a Cubs fan? :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 26, 2014, 10:44:48 am
Well, recently the Cubs have been historically bad.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 26, 2014, 11:26:33 am
That formula may be intact in game four.  Word is Nene may be suspended.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 26, 2014, 11:55:04 am
How 'bout them 'Hawks??!!!...down 2 games to zip and go on 3 zip run.....need settle the series on Sunday....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 26, 2014, 01:47:27 pm
Hopefully the bulls can accomplish the same.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 26, 2014, 04:24:18 pm
Not sure the Blackhawks have the Blues figured out. It took the save of the year from Crawford and a couple of missed open nets to get out of last night's game alive. Not to mention the fortunate deflection to Toews in OT. And the Hawks got outplayed pretty badly in game three despite winning.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 26, 2014, 10:19:20 pm

roid rage?



NBA suspends Nene for Game 4

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-nba-suspends-nene-for-game-4-20140426,0,7268459.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-nba-suspends-nene-for-game-4-20140426,0,7268459.story)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 27, 2014, 03:57:37 pm
Blackhawks should be losing about 6-1. When you basically don't use two of the  forwards who are in uniform and spend the whole game in the penalty box against a team as good as St. Louis, man, hawks are lucky to be tied.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 27, 2014, 04:04:30 pm
Hawks have been outplayed in this series and even if they were to win, they'll likely have to get through Colorado and SJ or Anaheim just to get to the Finals, an unlikely scenario.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 27, 2014, 05:04:36 pm
Blackhawks survive a penalty fest in the 2nd period and blow the game open in the 3rd to take the series. Crawford probably the biggest difference.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 27, 2014, 05:48:20 pm
Sure, we all saw that coming. Heh.
Reminded me in some ways of a Bulls - Knicks game 7 back in the first 3-peat period. A really tense series that the Chicago team blew open for a easy game 7 (though my memory is probably off on that).

But like you said Chris, there are a bunch of really formidable teams left in the west. The Avalanche remind me a little of the 2010 Blackhawks with all of their young, fast, skilled players (though I think Matt Duschene, maybe their best player, is injured). Hopefully the Hawks get some time off to rest.

But always nice to break the hearts of St. Louis sports' fans. Onward.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 13, 2014, 11:37:15 pm
HAWKS!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on May 14, 2014, 08:20:25 am
Great game to end a very challenging series, their luck the residue of hard work...Kings&Ducks battle on...pulling for the Habs over Bruins...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 14, 2014, 09:07:22 am
Fantastic effort by Crawford last night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 14, 2014, 11:04:35 am
I never have much confidence in Crawford, bet he seems to come through a lot.  The Wild played great and applied a lot more pressure than I expected.  Love this Blackhawks team.

Here a great article about their resolve compared to the Penguins.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/columnist/allen/2014/05/12/penguins-rangers-blackhawks-wild-column/9021787/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 14, 2014, 12:42:16 pm
There's a major difference between the Hawks and Pens. Pittsburgh had to face Lundqvist while the Hawks faced a 4th stringer. Yet the Hawks still only scored a few legit goals the last four games of their series.

Glad they won, but I don't think they've played more than 2-1/2 good games the entire playoffs. Can't imagine they win the Cup unless they pick it up substantially.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 14, 2014, 01:02:19 pm
I agree with your basic premise, Chris.  The 'Hawks seem to play as if they can turn it on at any time, but that is not likely to be enough to go all the way.  Of course, it's possible that they are going to shift into another gear for the Conference Finals and (hopefully) Stanley Cup round.  I'm not going to give up on them again (the way I did after they lost the first 2 games to St. Louis).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on May 14, 2014, 05:17:10 pm
Whether trusting the eye test or advanced hockey stats (which I don't really grasp, but I do check out blogs where they are discussed), the Hawks were outplayed last night and for big chunks of the series. But, not unlike baseball, once you are in a playoff series, things happen that allow the team playing less-well to win -- at least one series. But it's not a good plan for long-term success over four series.

The Hawks do still have 4 truly elite forwards who are threats to score all the time, and the luxury of two solid defensive pairings. And obviously Crawford is good enough.  That's not something the other teams can necessarily say. Nobody looks forward to playing the Blackhawks. But maybe they don't fear playing them as much this year. the Blackhawks chances of winning the cup seem lower for sure than what they were at this point in the other two championship runs.

I would love an Chicago-NYC final (so would NBC!).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 14, 2014, 07:42:54 pm
Yeah, the Wild did out play the Hawks.  They kept the puck in their offensive zone most of the time plus they stayed out of the penalty box.  The big difference it seems the Hawks compared to most teams is they are not physical - which can lead to more turnovers.  But as a team they are certainly more skilled than anyone which can lead to a flurry of goals or even fluke goals.  They can strike at any moment.  But they are not going to wear teams down.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 20, 2014, 08:22:02 pm

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Eagle_Stadium.jpg)


$60 million high school stadium won't reopen for 2014 football season due to safety concerns

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/05/allen-high-school-stadium (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/05/allen-high-school-stadium)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on May 21, 2014, 10:17:48 pm
And by the way, what the hell happened to the Blackhawks tonight. They haven't had a period like that 3rd period in, roughly, forever.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on May 22, 2014, 08:55:11 am
Yeah the breakdown in 3rd was epic, looked like the 'Hawks were sleepwalking , but it was bound to happen after going 6-0 at home during the SC playoffs...get 'em in LA...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 22, 2014, 09:45:17 am
I have stopped trying to figure out the 'Hawks.  Just hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on May 22, 2014, 01:29:00 pm
Would've been nice to go into LA with a 2-0 lead.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on May 22, 2014, 01:31:51 pm
hawks in 7 games
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on May 28, 2014, 10:47:39 pm
Well, obviously everyone knew Handzus would be the hero.

 Brandon Saad is on the cusp of stardom, isn't he?

But in game 6 Quenville needs to figure out how to play more than 7 forwards (both Bollig and Versteeg barely played in a game that went to a second OT, and Handzus really played very little at even strength).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 28, 2014, 10:53:29 pm
Still too much dead weight on the Hawks though, and still too much leeway give in the defensive zone. They played hard tonight though, I'll give them that. Don't think they win in LA, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 28, 2014, 10:59:38 pm
Gotta give the 'Hawks credit for battling.  The Kings are tough, but not unbeatable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 28, 2014, 11:00:20 pm
Saad was the best player on the ice tonight.  What's wrong with Sharp?  He's basically disappeared.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on May 30, 2014, 02:26:30 pm
The Hawks need to play an entire game the way they played the first overtime period in game 5.  Until then, the Kings skated circles around them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on May 30, 2014, 10:41:42 pm
Someday I hope to have grandchildren. And if so lucky, I will tell them stories about Patrick Kane.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 30, 2014, 11:00:28 pm
Someday I hope to have grandchildren. And if so lucky, I will tell them stories about Patrick Kane.

Maybe the Chicago Cubs will one day have a player as great as Patrick Kane.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 30, 2014, 11:00:36 pm
Or the Nashville Predators for that matter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 01, 2014, 07:52:35 pm
Helluva 1st period 'Hawks 3-2 over el ay....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 01, 2014, 08:00:15 pm
The Hawks just don't place good defense anymore.

I'm pretty certain the Kings could tackle a Hawks player at center ice and interference wouldn't be called.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 01, 2014, 08:17:11 pm
I agree the Kings getting away with serious mugging...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 01, 2014, 09:47:35 pm
O.T.  tied at 4
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 01, 2014, 09:48:55 pm
2-0, 3-2, and 4-3 leads gone.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 01, 2014, 10:12:42 pm
The Hawks complete the collapse.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 01, 2014, 10:22:30 pm
I can now devote my full sports attention to the Cubs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 01, 2014, 10:29:32 pm
I can now devote my full sports attention to the Cubs.

My condolences.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 02, 2014, 07:46:05 am
Is it football season yet?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 02, 2014, 07:46:40 am
Didn't think 'Hawks would lose a game 7 , at home...moving on to honey do list...crap!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 02, 2014, 07:48:00 am
Didn't think 'Hawks would lose a game 7 , at home...moving on to honey do list...crap!
That's on your honey do list, too?  Miralax is very good for that, AZ.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 02, 2014, 07:58:45 am
Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on June 06, 2014, 07:47:54 am
I know I'm late, but it was hard getting over that loss.  I did not think they would lose that game at all or to the Kings at all.   A lot of bad unlucky goals and spotty defense.  They need to hit more.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 09, 2014, 11:25:49 am
I know I'm late, but it was hard getting over that loss.  I did not think they would lose that game at all or to the Kings at all.   A lot of bad unlucky goals and spotty defense.  They need to hit more.

Agreed.  They were getting beat around pretty good, but didn't do much hitting themselves.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 11, 2014, 11:29:07 pm
So apparently Riley is planning to fudge everyone's contract and sign Anthony in Miami. What a farce.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 12, 2014, 12:49:00 am
If that happens the NBA is nothing but a joke. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 12, 2014, 01:55:18 am
It aint cheating. Its just finding loopholes in the system just like mlb executives have learned to manipulate the slotting system in the draft. Truth is the only reason we would care is because some have dreams of Melo to Chicago. If it was the Bulls doing it we'd all be praising Gar Forman. As a faithful Bulls fan myself Im not gonna be heartbroke if he dont come. Melo's the classic example of the girl youre dieing to bang and when you finally do you look back on it and think 'is that it?' Im not so sure he's got it in him to lead a team to a title. If he has to ride Lebron's coattails then you'll know he's not either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 12, 2014, 02:09:30 am
Melo to Chicago has nothing to do with it for me - I'd much rather chase Kevin Love.  It would be a travesty of its own merits.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 12, 2014, 03:09:06 am
Id rather sign Melo than trade for Love.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 12, 2014, 09:38:02 am
I second Deeg's comment.  Regardless of whether Melo plays for the Bulls, the Heat manipulating the system to load up their team would make the NBA season regular and post a joke.  It's bad enough with all the ring chasers who play for nothing for the Heat so they can win a ring.  I'm not saying the Heat are even doing anything wrong either.  It just isn't good for the league.  I know I would lose a lot of interest in watching the NBA if this happens. 

On the Melo front, I think the far most likely circumstance is he either opts in to the last year of his deal or resigns with NY.  After all he pulled to become a Knick, I can't see him leaving.  Especially not for a pay cut. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 12, 2014, 11:06:42 pm
I sure hope the Spurs can finish off the Heat Sunday.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 12, 2014, 11:19:45 pm
Amen brother Robb...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 14, 2014, 07:21:45 pm
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New York Knicks star Carmelo Anthony is leaning toward leaving in pursuit of immediate championship contention, and awaits the Chicago Bulls and Houston Rockets to clear the necessary salary-cap space to sign him in free agency, league sources told Yahoo Sports. Yahoo! Sports
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 14, 2014, 08:59:51 pm
He's such a pud. God forbid he take 1 less year on his contract to let the team acquiring him keep as much talent as possible. He's just yearning for a ring.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 15, 2014, 09:05:33 pm
Heat getting blown out. At least there's that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 15, 2014, 09:54:18 pm
Poor Lebron.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 15, 2014, 10:10:17 pm
What a nice Father's Day present.  Thanks Spurs!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 15, 2014, 10:13:57 pm
I don't understand.  Don't you go to the Heat to get a ring?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 16, 2014, 03:45:04 pm
In a stunning announcement, the Washington Redskins have announced that they will change their nickname beginning this fall.  They are changing to the Foreskins to reflect the fact that the inhabitants of DC tend to dick all of us.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 16, 2014, 03:47:27 pm
Perhaps the Chicago Cubs will change their nickname to that for pretty much the same reason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 16, 2014, 07:08:39 pm
What a finish by Brooks on that corner.  A huge three points.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 16, 2014, 07:13:10 pm
What?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 22, 2014, 10:18:02 pm
As someone who'd rather watch a 90 year old woman sun bathe than watch soccer it absolutely warmed my heart to see all the Americans flat out devastated after that late game tieing goal by Portugal.

The US being that much closer to being eliminated means my tv is that much closer to being void of soccer.

I BELIEVE...I BELIEVE THE US CHOKED!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2014, 10:49:11 pm
Classy as usual.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 22, 2014, 11:01:02 pm
Jiggy, I don't care for soccer either, but I still root for my country's team.  The performance of the team so far, even in tying a world class team like Portugal is so much improved over 15 or 20 years ago that it's amazing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 23, 2014, 12:24:52 am
Truthfully Curt I wouldnt know. As far as rooting for my country Ill use this example. My blood absolutely runs UT orange yet I root against the Lady Vols as if they're the Florida Gators for reasons I wont get into. Thats how I feel about the USA. In almost all other circumstances I would root for my country.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 23, 2014, 01:02:25 am
It's not such a surprise that many Americans dislike soccer (though sadly for them it's growing more popular in the US every year), but what's really funny to me is how many seem to be morally outraged at the idea that other people do like it.  And that somehow being ignorant of soccer gives you some kind of Lee Greenwood-esque patriotism boost.


As for the game, Portugal is the #4 team in the world and a draw against them on this stage is a good result.  It's a heartbreaking draw, but a good result.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 23, 2014, 01:39:10 am
I dont feel like disliking soccer gives me a patriotism boost by any means. My problem with it is how its forcefed down our throats when clearly only a minority of people in America care for it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 23, 2014, 01:42:32 am
If we're gonna be forcefed soccer they'd just as well make us watch the world water polo championships or the croquet world series or whatever they call it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 23, 2014, 02:21:33 am
Whether you all believe it or not there isnt a racist bone in my body. You have to remember that I married a flat out scalding hot Philipino girl so dont take this the wrong way but I can honestly say that the ONLY person that I know who has even mentioned the world cup is a white lady that I know who married a Mexican and of course she would because soccer is the most popular sport in Mexico.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on June 23, 2014, 08:36:45 am
My family is a sports family - it doesn't really matter the event.  If its a major event, we generally watch.  We are watching the World Cup and enjoying it.  We actually watch the Tour de France every year too.  The Olympics, the Frozen Four, etc. 

And, Jiggy, if you have only heard 1 person say something about it - how is being force fed down your throat?  Sportscenter?  I actually stopped watching that years ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 23, 2014, 09:37:31 am
I have always hated soccer but I watched yesterday just to see what it's all about and found myself yelling at the TV just as much as hockey or basketball.  Still not a favorite sport but yesterday's match was very exciting although the ending was very Cub like.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 23, 2014, 09:40:01 am
I wonder if Jigs still has his red Bolsheviks jacket and cap from back in the day . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioPW3ZdjO7s
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 23, 2014, 09:40:49 am
Just giving you a hard time there, Jigs.  :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 23, 2014, 10:01:09 am
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Sportscenter?  I actually stopped watching that years ago.

ESPN does have a bad habit of stuffing their various properties down your throats, so if you're not a soccer fan or don't care anything about the World Cup, I can see how you can be a little annoyed by it.  Goodness knows, I get tired of seeing ESPN stuff Johnny Manziel and the National Football League (never just "NFL" with them) in the middle of baseball season and the basketball and hockey playoffs.

Still, the World Cup is a big deal, and while I'm not a big soccer fan either, I really enjoy watching it every four years.  I think going to a World Cup game in '94 and experiencing it live was a big part of it for me and for a lot of casual fans out there.  About the only times I pay attention to soccer is during the World Cup or whenever the U.S. national team is playing in Nashville (which sells out every time they're over here).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on June 23, 2014, 11:31:19 am
I've been loving the Cup - my Costa Rica is doing unbelievably well!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 23, 2014, 07:27:17 pm
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The United States’ 2-2 World Cup draw with Portugal is almost certainly the most-viewed soccer match ever in the United States.

The Nielsen company said Monday that the gripping game was seen by an average of 24.7 million viewers Sunday evening on ESPN and Univision.


ESPN said the 18.2 million people who watched on the sports network made it the most-watched non-football — that is, American football — event in the network’s history. The telecast hit a peak of nearly 23 million viewers between 5:30 and 6 p.m. MDT.

With an audience of 25 million viewers for Sunday’s game between the United States and Portugal, the World Cup is moving into elite territory as a sports property on American television. Ratings for the game were the highest for any soccer game telecast in America and reached more viewers than events like the N.B.A. finals or the World Series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 24, 2014, 08:37:43 am
And LeBron opts out.  Let the circus begin - although this is likely just trying to pressure ownership into going deep in the luxury tax to try and win next season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 25, 2014, 03:26:49 am
Ill be the biggest Virginia Cavaliers fan in America tomorrow (Wednesday) night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 25, 2014, 09:55:02 am
Hey, Virginia today and Germany tomorrow!  :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 25, 2014, 11:03:53 am
Virgina's coach is a former Creighton player and is one of the three players in the statue in front of TD Ameritrade Park.  It depicts the celebration of Creighton's win in the CWS under Jim Hendry, FWIW.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 25, 2014, 11:31:36 am
Yep JR.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on June 25, 2014, 11:02:03 pm
Anchor Down Jiggs!! National Champs!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 25, 2014, 11:26:45 pm
Anchor Down Jiggs!! National Champs!

Yeah that was just a really great moment.  Congrats over there, Vandy!

I'm absolutely thrilled for Tim Corbin and the rest of that team. What he's done with Vanderbilt baseball is nothing short of remarkable. Not too many coaches in sports who are as good as him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 26, 2014, 09:12:40 am
Like they said last night...that probably was the two best teams in the country going at it for the championship.

Despite their losses on draft day, Vandy might be even stronger next season...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 10:04:02 am
Scratch Afflalo off the list - he's been traded to Denver for Evan Fournier and a 2nd-round pick.  Hard to imagine we couldn't have beaten that if we really wanted him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 26, 2014, 01:02:36 pm
Am I a bad person because I have apathy towards the World Cup?  I wish I could build up the hatred of Jiggs or just care about it in general.  If people weren't talking about it on twitter, I wouldn't have known the the US played a game today and is advancing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 01:07:32 pm
What a stressful 2 hours, but we survived the group of death.  And as happy as I am for US soccer, I'm even happier because it ruined Jiggy's day.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2014, 01:23:13 pm
It hasnt ruined my day. I didnt even know they were playing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2014, 02:16:40 pm
LMAO The way you all were talking I thought the  US had won and now I see that not only did they lose but didnt even score. All they did was delay the inevitable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 07:49:58 pm
Bulls about to trade for McBuckets.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 26, 2014, 08:00:09 pm
Yes, Yes, Yes.  Love me some Doug.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 08:15:37 pm
I'm OK with this deal, although I think Stauskas is going to be the better NBA player.  Bigger question is how this impacts the potential hunt for Melo or Love.

This could be the "Plan C" rumbling into place - McDermott, Mirotic and Gasol or something like that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 26, 2014, 08:25:17 pm
Doug is Kyle Korver with ability to score inside.  It saves $900,000 against the cap and likely Dunlevy is headed out as well which would be another $3 million in savings. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 08:27:25 pm
True, but just to play devil's advocate, could have had Harris at 16 and the #19 as a chip.

I like McDermott - I think he can score in the NBA.  But who is he going to guard?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 26, 2014, 08:33:52 pm
He is better on D than you think and more athletic.  He will struggle against super athletic 3, but he can match up with 4's as well.  If Rose is healthy he will get plenty of looks.  The Bulls have been scouting him for a couple of years and they have seen him live a number of times.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2014, 08:35:13 pm
The Bulls got their man. I cant hate on it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 08:59:41 pm
Bulls are also getting Anthony Randolph in the McBuckets trade.  It's easy to overinterpret the tea leaves, but that has sign & trade to Knicks written all over it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 26, 2014, 09:05:07 pm
Somebody tweeted that Melo is going to Chicago and was retweeted ABTY.  No clue on how accurate it is.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 26, 2014, 09:07:50 pm
I knew the Bulls would get Anthony.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 09:09:24 pm
Somebody tweeted that Melo is going to Chicago and was retweeted ABTY.  No clue on how accurate it is.

Remember LeBron.  It's all guesswork right now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 26, 2014, 09:09:59 pm
I meant Randolph.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 09:57:56 pm
Heat supposedly getting Kyle Lowery in a S & T.  That takes them out of Anthony, probably, but Lowery is a heckuva player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 10:49:27 pm
Bulls take Cameron Bairstow, the Aussie Lobo, in the second round.  I kind of like him - not huge (6'9") but very strong, good mid-range jumper and surprisingly quick.  Also a bit of a bulldog mentality guy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FDISK on June 26, 2014, 11:45:16 pm
Bairstow will set the standard in the weight room. He is an animal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 01, 2014, 05:05:48 pm
GOOOAAALLL!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 01, 2014, 05:15:51 pm
GOOOAAALLLLLLL!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 04, 2014, 01:04:16 am
Seems as though Anthony is heading back to New York. Bulls will probably be the same minus Boozer and Augustin, but plus McDermott and Mirotic.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 04, 2014, 03:04:00 am
Although Ive always suspected he'd go back to the Knicks why do you think this?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 04, 2014, 03:23:36 am
It's always seemed likely that Anthony would take $129 million over $64 million, which is all the Bulls are offering unless Pax can talk Phil into a sign-and-trade.  And all the buzz now is along those lines.

I actually wouldn't mind seeing the Bulls get Gasol if they do lose out on Melo - I think he has a couple of good years left in the tank.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 04, 2014, 08:52:43 am
Mirotic apparently completed his buyout from Real Madrid today.  You would think he and the Bulls would be working hand-in-hand here, but there's a sense that he may be trying to force their hand.  Very odd.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 04, 2014, 11:14:21 am
I thought the Bulls could offer Melo 89 million?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 04, 2014, 12:04:30 pm
If they give away Dunleavy, Butler and Gibson for nothing they can get to around $80 million for four seasons.  The only way they can get to a max contract or close is via sign-and-trade, which Phil doesn't seem much interested in.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 04, 2014, 12:08:57 pm
They can keep Butler and Gibson and still offer around 17 per due to all the unguaranteeds they have.  It's never been about money though.  Either Meo would take less to win or take the max available.  Having watched him play his entire career I don't know why anyone ever thought he wouldn't take the money. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 04, 2014, 01:02:41 pm
I think there's a cutoff at which point he'd take the money, and at which he'd go for the ring.  There's a big difference between $64 million over four years and $96 over four years, which is what the Lakers could offer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 08, 2014, 10:56:04 pm
Maybe Jigs would like soccer better if Jim Ross was calling the games.

http://screamer.deadspin.com/here-is-j-r-jim-ross-calling-the-brazil-germany-firs-1601968953/+bubbaprog
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 08, 2014, 10:59:10 pm
For that matter, he might like the Super Bowl better if Jim Ross was calling it.

http://deadspin.com/watch-your-super-bowl-highlights-as-narrated-by-j-r-1514625138
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Post by: guest61 on July 09, 2014, 12:32:07 am
LOL
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 09, 2014, 09:49:37 am
Looks like LeBron to the Cavs may have legs - he's told them to dump players and they are.
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Post by: BearHit on July 09, 2014, 10:13:59 am
LBJ for PRESIDENT!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 10, 2014, 08:25:12 am
Boy, James seems to be headed back to Cleveland, which would mean Bosh to Houston in a max deal.  And Wade is well and truly screwed - he opted out of a max deal to try and work with LBJ to get some help, and now he's not getting anywhere close to that and if he wants any chance to compete for another ring, he has to bolt himself.

Of course this could be a giant smokescreen and James could be going back to Miami.
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Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 10, 2014, 03:10:05 pm
Boy, James seems to be headed back to Cleveland, which would mean Bosh to Houston in a max deal. And Wade is well and truly screwed - he opted out of a max deal to try and work with LBJ to get some help, and now he's not getting anywhere close to that and if he wants any chance to compete for another ring, he has to bolt himself.

Of course this could be a giant smokescreen and James could be going back to Miami.

I'm hoping that happens as I'd love for Wade to get screwed big time $$-wise after how he deceived the Bulls while he was Pat Riley's spy during free-agency 4 years ago.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 11, 2014, 12:21:48 pm
Lebron back to Cleveland. I must admit that he looks a lot less **** now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 11, 2014, 12:32:33 pm
One would think that the Bulls would now be an even more attractive destination for Carmelo.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 11, 2014, 01:05:00 pm
I still think he's a Knick.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 11, 2014, 07:35:37 pm
One would think that the Bulls would now be an even more attractive destination for Carmelo.

Unless you feel Carmelo would rather not be in the same division staring up at LeBron's team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on July 11, 2014, 07:42:28 pm
I'm quite confident that Anthony will puss out and take the money, just like Bosh.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 11, 2014, 08:00:22 pm
I find it pretty hilarious that Frank Isola, the boob who "100%" said Melo was re-signing Thursday, now says he spoke to Melo Wednesday and he made no commitment, just that this was incredibly tough, blah blah...

It's also funny to see this painted as some kind of agonizing choice.  It's very simple - if we wants the best chance to win, he goes to Chicago.  If he wants the most money, he stays in NY.  Anthony can't hide here - if he decides to stay there will be no disguising what drives him.  Right now I think it's 50-50%.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on July 11, 2014, 08:08:42 pm
50-50?  Are you hopped up on the dope?  5-95.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 11, 2014, 08:31:39 pm
If Anthony was that sold on signing in NY, I don't think he would have held out this long - what's the point?  I think he's waiting to see if the Bulls will gut the roster to make the money closer, or somehow talk Phil into a S/T.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 11, 2014, 08:58:01 pm
Twitter exploding with Anthony to Bulls rumors, with the hangup being Phil's refusal to S/T.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 11, 2014, 09:05:37 pm
Wasn't Anythony waiting to see if he could shoehorn his way into James' future team?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 11, 2014, 09:15:47 pm
Some believe so, but that's just one theory.  In any case that ship has certainly sailed now.
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Post by: Deeg on July 11, 2014, 10:48:30 pm

 Retweeted by Alex Kennedy
 Pau Gasol ‏@paugasol  6h
I'm very close to deciding. Thank you all for your interest and support! #FreeAgency
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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on July 11, 2014, 11:58:51 pm
Thank you for posting that non-sequester...........................

No way we get pau and carmello.... ust no way.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 12, 2014, 12:22:53 am
Spanish sports magazine "Marca" reports that Gasol has a deal with the Bulls, not a S/T.  Make of it what you will.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 12, 2014, 12:49:36 am
The Bulls must not like Taj Gibson as much as they claim to be going after Gasol like they are. And I still say Melo's a Knick.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 12, 2014, 12:54:11 am
Now saying it is a S/T.  It might actually be a S/T for Gibson, which would allow the Bulls more cap space to make Anthony a straight-up offer and force Phil's hand.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 12, 2014, 12:55:56 am
Adrian Wojnarowski confirms Gasol about to agree with the Bulls.  He's been about the most reliable reporter this cycle - the ESPN guys have blown pretty much everything and guys like Stein seem to be basically copy/pasting what he tweets.
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Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 12, 2014, 01:34:51 am

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 12, 2014, 01:51:31 am
It's not going to be difficult for the Bulls to find a taker for Gibson - he's a solid role player.  If Anthony were to commit to the Bulls they could then go to the Knicks and say, "Look - we have to deal Gibson either way.  We can trade him elsewhere and sign Melo for $19M and you get nothing, or trade him to you along with a 1st-rounder and a trade exception for Melo.  Is it really important enough to deny Melo a few million per year that you'd rather get nothing than three tangible assets?"

Of course, all of that is contingent on Melo wanting to choose the Bulls - and being willing to commit to them and force Phil's hand.  May never happen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 12, 2014, 01:56:08 am
Now seeing reports that 670 said that Gasol may be signing for the MLE.  If so, holy crap - that would be a very, very strong pro-Melo sign.  And what a move by Pau.  Obviously being 6000 miles away I have no idea what specifically was reported, and by whom.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 12, 2014, 12:15:30 pm
Looks like Melo is taking the money after all.  Guess I can't blame him, it is a lot of money.  I just don't want to hear him say he cares more about winning than money.  If the Bulls can add Ariza to Gasol and McDermott I like this off-season just fine.  How sweet would it be for Melo to watch the Bulls win a chip from home for the next few years.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 12, 2014, 01:16:57 pm
If the Bulls are banking on Doug McDermitt and a past-his-prime Gasol to lead them to a title....... Hell, the Cavs may end up better than the Heat by the time they finish with their roster.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 12, 2014, 01:47:40 pm
Interesting analysis of Carmelo's value:  http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/05/carmelo-anthony-way-overrated/361528/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 12, 2014, 05:16:46 pm
Pau announced on Twitter that he's a Bull. Seeing that there is no super team in the East anymore if we could get Mirotic to come over they could be pretty strong.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 12, 2014, 06:27:39 pm
Need a wing player from somewhere though.  Joe Johnson has a poison pill of a contract which is too bad, he would be exactly what they need.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 12, 2014, 07:24:55 pm
In a vacuum I love adding Gasol - class guy, basketball IQ off the charts, terrific pick and roll and post player on offense.  But if he and Mirotic are it, this roster is nowhere close to finals-caliber.  Mirotic is basically a redshirt, because as the third PF behind Gasol and Taj he'll never get minutes - and against a lot of teams the 4 is the only place McDermott can ply if he's going to get minutes.  This team desperately needs an athletic wing who can create and unless they intend to trade Gibson for one (or the cap space to sign Stephenson) I think the offseason is ultimately a faulure.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 13, 2014, 05:16:00 pm
 Retweeted by K.C. Johnson
 Nikola Mirotic ‏@nikolamirotic12  3m
I am very happy and excited to announce that next season I will be playing with the @chicagobulls . Today I fulfill a dream. #BullsNation
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 13, 2014, 05:24:01 pm
Hinrich and his 38% shooting are back too. Move over LeBron.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 13, 2014, 05:26:13 pm
Bulls offseason: McDermott, Gasol, Mirotic, Hinrich, Bairstow.

Donald Sterling approved...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 13, 2014, 06:24:10 pm
Sterling actually didn't like paying white players....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 13, 2014, 06:25:57 pm
Bulls have a lot of #4/5s.  Are they going to trade Taj?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 13, 2014, 07:34:27 pm
Bulls have a lot of #4/5s.  Are they going to trade Taj?

It's hard to explain this roster construction otherwise.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 13, 2014, 08:43:15 pm
Glad to see Captain Kirk back and Mirotic signed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 13, 2014, 09:11:16 pm
DJ Augustin signs with Detroit for just a bit more than Hinrich got. What a world.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 13, 2014, 10:39:59 pm
If you put a lot of stock into summer league games, Doug McDermott was 5-9 from three and 12-12 from the line for 31 points today for the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 13, 2014, 11:41:45 pm
He can join Marquis Teague and Anthony Randolph in the Hall-of-Fame....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 15, 2014, 06:34:48 pm
McDermott 7-13, 4 threes, 20 points, 5 boards, 6 assists today in the Summer League. His defense not exactly drawing rave reviews though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 15, 2014, 06:35:35 pm
Thibs will shape him up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 18, 2014, 01:21:21 pm
Looks like another boring major.  Rory running away with it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 19, 2014, 09:48:26 am
Really a joy watching Rory play - he has that higher gear that only the great ones have.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 19, 2014, 09:56:04 am
Two eagles in the last three holes - wow.  When McIlroy lost his lead, he just geared up and dusted the field.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 19, 2014, 10:03:52 am
I have to admit, I'm mildly amused by how well McIlroy has been playing since he broke off his engagement.  It's like that was the thing that got his golf game turned around.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 19, 2014, 10:32:16 am
Wouldn't be the first time such a thing has happened.  Bad relationships can do wonders to screw up an athlete.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 19, 2014, 10:39:51 am
But I know........it's my own damn fault.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 19, 2014, 10:42:59 am
But I know........it's my own damn fault.

Are you to blame for Hope Solo's wig-out?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 20, 2014, 12:38:42 pm
3 majors by 25: Nicklaus, Woods, Mcilroy.

Mcilroy's Dad and three mates - 200K Pounds richer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 26, 2014, 12:05:56 pm
Just watching 10 seconds of ESPN's wall to wall coverage of NFL training camp this week, does anyone have any idea what ESPN's big incentive is to stuff the NFL down everyone's throats?

Yeah I know it's the most popular sports league in America, and I like football like anyone else.   But good grief, it's training camp

It's basically like Roger Goodell runs that network nowadays.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 26, 2014, 12:12:15 pm
This is where MLB has a problem with Bud Selig.  ESPN is pretty much devoting 80% of their coverage this week to practice football while baseball is in the middle of the regular season, and MLB doesn't have a commissioner with the muscle or the influence to keep the NFL from more or less running that network.  Roger Goodell pretty much has ESPN covering his sport the way he wants it to be covered, and Bud Selig seems content to sit on the sidelines and twiddle his fingers.

The only time ESPN seems to really care about baseball is when the Red Sox have a game on a day Johnny Manziel is taking a break from partying, and occasionally they'll give a shout out to Yasiel Puig if he does something interesting. 

Other than that, MLB's influence with that network is next to nothing.  The next commissioner needs to change that.
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Post by: jacey1 on July 26, 2014, 01:57:47 pm
This is where MLB has a problem with Bud Selig.  ESPN is pretty much devoting 80% of their coverage this week to practice football while baseball is in the middle of the regular season, and MLB doesn't have a commissioner with the muscle or the influence to keep the NFL from more or less running that network.  Roger Goodell pretty much has ESPN covering his sport the way he wants it to be covered, and Bud Selig seems content to sit on the sidelines and twiddle his fingers.

The only time ESPN seems to really care about baseball is when the Red Sox have a game on a day Johnny Manziel is taking a break from partying, and occasionally they'll give a shout out to Yasiel Puig if he does something interesting. 

Other than that, MLB's influence with that network is next to nothing.  The next commissioner needs to change that.
Absolutely agree with this JR....Football owns ESPN and the new commissioner of MLB needs to somehow get some of the spotlight back
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 01, 2014, 10:16:24 pm
Today would be a good day to skip Sportscenter.  At least after eating.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 01, 2014, 10:32:08 pm
I havent seen it yet but Ive heard what happened.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 01, 2014, 10:42:26 pm
I guess Paul George outdid Kevin Ware?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on August 01, 2014, 11:23:34 pm
I had the game taped but skipped over the replays.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 01, 2014, 11:35:12 pm
I still havent seen it. All theyre showing is that fat dude talking.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 04, 2014, 02:37:11 am
Damn that Jim Kelly piece on Sportscenter just had me tore up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chiman on August 04, 2014, 07:41:59 pm
Jigs, I saw that also and it was heart warming. I always liked machine gun Kelly and I like him more than ever. It is a shame he didn't win a Super Bowl!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 10, 2014, 07:25:47 pm
This is the transition of Rory Mcilroy from the best player in the world to the dominant player in the world.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 10, 2014, 09:59:27 pm
Rory sure has been dominant the last few weeks...unreal how a guy that size (5'9, 165 or so) can hit the ball that far (AND hit it straight)!  He's an awesome athlete and a great kid! 

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 11, 2014, 12:43:26 am
He should have dumped Caroline a year ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 11, 2014, 01:07:38 am
Just on top of it, it really seems like Rory McIlroy is a genuinely good human being.  It's nice to see a good person dominate golf after all the years of Tiger being on top.
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Post by: OkieCubsFan on August 11, 2014, 07:05:35 am
I'd like to see a McIlroy - Fowler rivalry start up.  That would be fun to watch.

Fowler's just a tick behind him.  He's got to get better at closing the deal, but only Jack, Tiger and Rickie have ever placed Top 5 in all four majors in a year.  Of course, only Fowler didn't win any of his 5.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on August 11, 2014, 07:20:33 am
McIlroy v. Fowler looks to be the marquee match up that can energize the future of golf for the next decade.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 11, 2014, 07:24:41 am
Mcilroy is a hell of a lot more than a tick ahead of Fowler.  He's a tick ahead like Tiger was a tick ahead of Phil.  That doesn't mean Fowler can't emerge as a good rival for Rory - they seem to get along very well too, and both are refreshingly upbeat and plain-spoken for professional golfers.  Once Fowler breaks through he should go on to be a very good player in the Els-Mickelson range, but Rory has a chance to be one of the 3-5 best of all-time.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on August 11, 2014, 07:56:40 am
Deeg, I would agree that Rory is clearly ahead of Ricky at present in several areas, swing mechanics, course management, in game strategy to name a few things. Ricky is in the process of working with Butch Harmon on changes in his swing mechanics which seems to becoming better and more repeatable, next to develope and refine would be those aspects that I mentioned that Rory has well in hand. Two very talented young guys that can look forward to great one on one competition.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 11, 2014, 08:17:24 am
I don't disagree that Butch has done wonders for Rickie, but just ask Tiger Woods how good an idea it is to pin your success on your swing coach.

Rickie is a helluva talent, but what Rory can do is simply on another level - that should be obvious after this summer.  That doesn't mean he's going to win every major (obviously) or even win majors every year, or that Fowler can't develop into an elite player in the second-tier like Ernie or Phil.  But Rory is simply better at golf that Rickie is, never mind things like course management and grit (where he's currently better, too).  You can say Fowler can get better and catch up, but you could say that about any PGA pro - the fact is that some guys are simply better than other guys, and Rory just happens to be simply better than any player to come along since Tiger.

What I would expect is for Rory to dominate the game over the next 10-12 years - not like Tiger and Jack did, but winning 6-10 more majors over than time.  And I think you'll see a group of 2-3 young guys emerge as the second tier to be his most consistent challengers, and Rickie has as good a shot as anyone to be part of that group.  But he's never going to be at Mcilroy's level on a year-in, year-out basis.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on August 11, 2014, 10:20:38 am
Good points Deeg,but I would,respectfully, disagree about Rory being elite talent and Rickie being 2nd tier. At this juncture Rory is red hot and Rickie is not. Their collective career arcs are in the ascendency and that time will tell who stands apart from the rest. Look forward to further contests between those players and discussions with you on their games.


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: OkieCubsFan on August 11, 2014, 10:02:11 pm
McIlroy has been a pro for 2 years longer than Fowler, and they're basically the same age.  In 2013, they were nearly identical.

McIlroy had a 2nd place finish, 5 top 10's and 7 top 25s in 16 events.  He banked $1.8MM
Fowler had a 3rd place finish, 5 top 10's and 10 top 25s in 22 events.  He banked $1.8MM

Rory is on a hot streak right now, but don't ignore the fact that Fowler also is in extremely elite company with his major performances this year.  He hasn't quite figured out how to get over the hump and turn his Top 5's into victories, but Fowler is 4 shots away from being in the spot McIlroy's in now. 

Masters - T5
US Open - T2
British Open - T2
PGA - T3

McIlroy and Furyk were the only other golfers able to have more than one Top 5 finish in a major this year (both with 2).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 11, 2014, 10:04:27 pm
4 majors vs. 0 majors.  There's no getting around it.

Fowler is a lot like Garcia was back when he was in his early 20s, and the world was his oyster.  He was Tiger's destined foil, the rival to be.  But Sergio, despite his phenomenal talent, wasn't as phenomenally talented as Tiger.  And eventually all those missed chances start to become a burden rather than a useful learning experience.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 11, 2014, 10:19:22 pm
Agree with Deeg...Fowler is a hard worker and phenomenal talent (and has been known as such for many years in the world of golf).  Top 5 in all 4 majors...WOW!

However, Rory is as talented (and about as hard working) as ANYONE who EVER stepped on a golf course.  In a major, just stepping up and hammering one tee shot after another onto the fairway, 320-330 on the fly...WTF??

Both are super young guys, both have a MAJOR dose of the "IT" factor...and Rory hits it FORTY yards farther than Ricky (and most everyone else)...that's a pretty big advantage.

Just as with Tiger many moons ago, when Rory is "on," he's gonna continue to be VERY hard to beat...at least while he's playing at the current level.

Of course, golf is very fickle, so who knows.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 11, 2014, 10:43:26 pm
Twenty years ago I would easily wiped the course with both of them.

Of course, they would have been what then? 6?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 11, 2014, 10:54:40 pm
No, Curt, I suspect they would have taken you (or any of us) down then, too...both guys are prodigies.  Silly good, even as little kids.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 11, 2014, 11:06:33 pm
Okay, 25 years ago then.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 12, 2014, 01:18:42 pm
25 years ago, Curt, you would have taken either Rory or Rickie down!  NO doubt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on August 12, 2014, 01:24:30 pm
I'd shoot for 26 years, just to be safe.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on August 12, 2014, 01:43:28 pm
Are golfers doing steroids?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 12, 2014, 02:25:59 pm
I did not do steroids.  My 100 yard drives were all ME!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 12, 2014, 10:31:47 pm
They test guys on the PGA Tour all the time.  Dustin Johnson tested positive twice (last one for ****) and was suspended for 6 months (and will miss the Ryder Cup).

Steroid use would surface on their testing almost certainly. 

Seems like McIlroy must have something going on...and he does...no one in the history of the game has rotated his hips as fast as Rory through the ball, which - when coupled with shoulders almost square to the ball at impact and unreal timing - produces incredible torque and increases the whipping action of the clubhead through the ball, resulting in tremendous clubhead speed.  The kid is a freak!  It's not steroids with him (which is almost hard to imagine given his rather normal size).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 12, 2014, 10:46:55 pm
Why in the world is anyone talking about steroids with Rory McIlroy?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 12, 2014, 10:56:10 pm
They weren't accusing him.  They were accusing me.  Jealous of my skill and buff physique.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 12, 2014, 11:05:29 pm
You get that physique from Giordano's and Old Style, CurtOne.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 13, 2014, 02:24:08 am
Ben was accusing him. And it's nuts if you ask me. Rory was hitting 290 as a 140 pound 16 year-old amateur.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on August 13, 2014, 03:34:57 am
Quote
Ben was accusing him.

Ben who? Not the Ben from this board.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 13, 2014, 05:27:28 am
Ben who? Not the Ben from this board.

Yeah, sorry Ben, my bad - I was reading that on the train and in a hurry, and saw "Rory must have something going on" in response to the steroid posts and misinterpreted.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 13, 2014, 08:29:03 am
Deeg, are you still living in Japan?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 13, 2014, 08:40:09 am
Yep, sure am.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 13, 2014, 10:37:46 pm
Couple of quick questions, Deeg:

Are you living in or near Tokyo?  (fabulous city)

Have you gotten to any of the baseball parks in Japan this year?  (I've heard that's a real treat)

Can you view much Cub baseball?  (way more fun now than earlier this year!)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 11, 2014, 02:47:51 am
I just saw the Ray Rice video.

He really unloaded on that chick.

Makes a man wonder what she did to provoke that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on September 11, 2014, 08:01:45 am
I just saw the Ray Rice video.

He really unloaded on that chick.

Makes a man wonder what she did to provoke that.

Really?  That's what you wonder after seeing that?  I wondered "What's wrong with that dude?"
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on September 11, 2014, 09:10:36 am
"Yeah baby - you brought that on yourself you know"

Eddie Murphy?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 11, 2014, 09:24:47 am
Bad things happen when you're intoxicated.  Worse things happen when two people are intoxicated.

Spousal abuse cannot be tolerated.  First reports were that she was spitting on him and then rushed him.  The grainy video looked like he hit her as a reflex.  Now it comes out that he was spitting on HER and that she went at him because of it.  I'd like to know if this spitting and/or hitting was normal behavior or a one time thing.  If it is normal behavior, lifetime ban.  If a one time drunken thing, maybe a shorter ban with lots of spousal and alcoholic counseling.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on September 11, 2014, 10:18:20 am
Brandon Marshall talked about his history with domestic violence on NFL live last week - said it's no excuse - but if you are raised with incidents like this all around you all your life - it is a tough habit to break
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on September 11, 2014, 08:42:59 pm
He should never play another down in the NFL.

There is no acceptable excuse for striking a woman, short of her holding a gun on you.  Ever.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on September 11, 2014, 08:49:48 pm
Yeah, Strike, Marshall is about 10 years (at least) behind the times with that comment.

It's great that he's cleaned up his act, seemingly, in recent years, but someone needs to school him quickly.

There is no excuse. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 11, 2014, 09:50:46 pm
The only way Ive ever hit a woman is from the back...

LMAO
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on September 12, 2014, 04:56:49 am
Donkey-Punch?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on September 12, 2014, 11:22:52 am
Dirty Sanchez?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on September 15, 2014, 01:44:27 am
Derrick Rose hasn't done anything this summer that would lead you top believe he's anything close to his old self.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 15, 2014, 06:20:08 am
I agree Chris but I'm still not worried.  I think as long as he stays healthy it will come around and he does at least look healthy.  Hopefully the team steps up and wins without Rose in unicorn mode the early part of the year.  With Gasol on the block and McDermott adding his shooting and offense to the mix they should be better offensively, even without Derrick.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 15, 2014, 10:54:44 am
Dont forget Mirotic too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 17, 2014, 06:57:35 am
Bulls sign E'twaun Moore.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on September 17, 2014, 08:50:27 am
Smooge!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 21, 2014, 10:29:56 pm
Watching some football antics today with Cook pushing his quarterback in St. Louis, the fights in a number of games, and last night watching part of the Florida State vs Clemson game and the Nebraska vs Miami game, I came to the conclusion that there are still a lot of thugs out there, and when you consider Ray Lewis and Aaron Hernandez both came out of Miami, Miami must still be recruiting thugs.  There are hundreds of decent guys in the NFL and in college football, but we are kidding ourselves if we don't recognize that there are psychopaths thugs on every team, too.  There are a lot of drugs and violence beyond just these current domestic and child abuse cases.  Good luck, NFL, on dealing with all of it.

I would like to thank the Anheiser Busch company for their support of women by threatening to withdraw their sponsorship of a product that the players were getting drunk on before they beat their women.  Makes sense.

BTW: Lewis was bitching on ESPN about the Rice thing, alluding to the fact that the Ravens can't cover up everything.  Like what, Ray?  Murder?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on September 21, 2014, 11:31:54 pm
Hate to burst your bubble, Curt, but Hernandez went to Florida.

I hate "The U" as much as anybody but that particular thug is another school's pride and joy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on September 22, 2014, 05:04:09 am
Go watch some youth football games - totally different group of kids and parents as compared to youth baseball or soccer...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 22, 2014, 07:40:53 am
Hate to burst your bubble, Curt, but Hernandez went to Florida.

I hate "The U" as much as anybody but that particular thug is another school's pride and joy.
Ah, that's right.  He was Urban's blind spot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 22, 2014, 06:21:55 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvywOpCPWZM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on September 23, 2014, 01:12:52 pm
Jiggs, what the hell was that???
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 23, 2014, 03:33:46 pm
LMAO

Just some dude I know who wrestles that was on a local tv commercial.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 24, 2014, 04:44:27 pm
Truthfully thats me on the commercial.

I fully expect you all to give me hell over it but I thought you all would get a kick out of it.

I havent done it in over a year but I did wrestle 4 to 5 nights a week for a couple years.

Just chasing a dream I guess.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 24, 2014, 06:54:02 pm
Truthfully thats me on the commercial.

I fully expect you all to give me hell over it but I thought you all would get a kick out of it.

I havent done it in over a year but I did wrestle 4 to 5 nights a week for a couple years.

Just chasing a dream I guess.


If you and your tag team partner were known as "Vicious and Delicious", which one were you?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 24, 2014, 07:00:37 pm
Lmao

Delicious of course.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on September 25, 2014, 01:07:46 pm
wrestling?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 04:55:01 pm
I cant lie. Ive always loved it. Hulk Hogan got me in the mid 80's. The funny thing with it is I played basketball all the way through school and you'd always have kids as good or better than you but it wasnt anywhere near as difficult in wrestling. From day one all I saw was young guys with no ability what so ever or older guys who were just real big.  I did real well with it and moved up very quickly to bigger and better things that I truthfully never dreamed of when I started and it got to the point to where I was expected to get on steroids and travel the country full time and for someone my age with kids I just couldnt do that. Im very thankful that I was able to do that for as long as I did and get to meet and wrestle some of the guys I grew up watching and I did get a wife out of it that's far out of my league but it was just time to get my priorities in order I guess.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 25, 2014, 05:45:33 pm
So did you go to a school to learn how to take a bump?  Were you a face or a heel?  How often did you have to job?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 06:12:29 pm
Yeah Curt I had to get trained. I was trained by former WWE tag team champion Billy Gunn and former WWE wrestler Eugene. I was and I guess still am a heel. Its a lot easier to make 500 people hate you than it is to make them love you. As far as how often I had to lose they tell you if you know how many matches you've had you havent had enough but truthfully if I had 500 matches I probably lost half of them especially at first. Towards the end with the more experience I got we got to win a lot more often.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 06:17:02 pm
 Its fake you know so a lot of the times you may be a lot better than the guys you're working but if they're the promoters homeboys you'll still have to "job".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 06:33:50 pm
I would have told you all this a while ago but I just figured you'd make fun of me. Dave may have already knew because I was friends with him on facebook. It was all mostly during the period I wasnt posting here. I may still do it a lot more but now instead of wrestling everywhere that wants to book us I just wrestle at the places that pays what we ask.  Its kinda hard to find time though working full time and with a 9 month old son.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 25, 2014, 06:36:21 pm
Okay I was worried that it was some sort of fly by night organization that let anybody crawl between the ropes.  That's disaster waiting to happen.  Glad to hear you were a heel.  Puts you in with Jes, Davep, and JeffH.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 25, 2014, 07:04:00 pm
What is your "finishing" hold?  Describe it if necessary.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 07:05:56 pm
Reverse neckbreaker.

Think Rick Rude's "Rude Awakening".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 07:23:43 pm
Ill be honest with you guys. I gave it all I had to give it. My trainer Eugene (Nick Dinsmore) offered me the opportunity to try out for TNA the show thats on Spike TV where he's the head trainer but I was gonna have to move to Louisville Kentucky and I just couldnt reasonably do that.

If I had started at 18 instead of 29 who knows.

If any of you guys doubt this just tell me and Ill reopen my facebook.

There's 100s of pics on there of me in action.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on September 25, 2014, 08:41:17 pm
I also liked the Boston crab.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on September 25, 2014, 08:41:43 pm
Whatever happened to Seaman Art Thomas?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 25, 2014, 09:32:17 pm
He's dead.  Don Manoukian died a few days ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 25, 2014, 10:41:54 pm
That's pretty cool Jigs. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 11:24:29 pm
Thanks Jr.

Its definitely something I would have regretted if I had never gave it a try.

Im thankful that I got the opportunity.

I will say this though.

Its a rough life. You dont make much money doing it at any level unless youre in WWE and there are days you feel like youve been hit by a truck.

Thats what leads to the drug abuse and early deaths you hear about and the steroids on top of that dont help.

I promise you that once you get past the tryout stage and they see that youre pretty decent you will be expected to get jacked or youre kinda looked down upon.

Something I learned is you can count the wrestlers that got out before they were crippled and were financially stable on one hand.

Its just not a productive life.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 11:46:41 pm
But dont get the wrong impression. Off the top of my head Ive only wrestled 3 times in the last year and none in the last 6 months or so and truth being told I may never do it again.

They do say "wrestlers dont quit, they die" though so you never know.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 30, 2014, 03:37:19 pm
After last night, maybe the Patriots need to see about getting Aaron Hernandez out of jail.  After all, there's no video of the murder and it's easy to get ol' Roger to come up with a new policy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 04, 2014, 02:50:16 pm
Thank God rooting for the Cubs has taught me to accept losing or todays UT/Florida game would have me on suicide watch.

But much like our Cubbies my Big Orange is headed in the right direction.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 04, 2014, 06:14:41 pm
I LOVE UPSETS
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 07, 2014, 12:58:22 am
Bulls played their first ex. game Monday and Rose apparently looked okay scoring 11 pts in 14 minutes.

Mirotic made his debut and had 17 pts and 5 boards in 22 minutes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 07, 2014, 01:04:48 am
The Bulls should be real strong this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on October 07, 2014, 01:12:29 pm
they will be strong for sure Jiggs, but I am not sold yet on them being VERY strong...i hope you're right
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 07, 2014, 07:17:35 pm
As long as the Bulls have bricklayer Hinrich playing too many minutes they aren't going anywhere.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 07, 2014, 07:53:57 pm
I like Captain Kirk and always have but Aaron Brooks should help him out a good bit too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 07, 2014, 08:45:28 pm
Mirotic' second game not going as well:  6 fouls, 5 TO's, 0 points in 14 minutes

Same for Rose: 0-4, 6 pts, 1 assist in 14 min
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on October 09, 2014, 02:11:41 pm
HOCKEY!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on October 09, 2014, 03:51:03 pm
HOCKEY!!!!
Absolutely ready to watch Chicago's best franchise and big time winners...Go 'Hawks!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 09, 2014, 06:03:48 pm
The Blackhawks are already irritating me. They bring in Brad Richards to fill the second center hole and now he's on the third line with players who don't best suit his ability.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on October 09, 2014, 06:38:24 pm
The Blackhawks are already irritating me. They bring in Brad Richards to fill the second center hole and now he's on the third line with players who don't best suit his ability.


lol...Coach Q doing his thing right out of the box...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 09, 2014, 09:04:22 pm
Hawks didn't look good in preseason and they don't look good tonight although they are currently tied.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 09, 2014, 09:06:28 pm
Nevermind. Now they're losing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 10, 2014, 02:36:07 am
9er fans aint the ones to be messed with.

Apparently this dudes mistake was claiming Steve Young was better than Joe Montana...

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/oct/09/san-francisco-49ers-fan-paralysed-attack-chiefs
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on October 10, 2014, 10:09:18 am
Kane with beautiful stick work flips puck over Lehtonen's left shoulder, top shelf to give the 3-2 victory to the 'Hawks in the SO...Crawford stood on his head to keep the 'Hawks in the game, he was freakin' awesome!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on October 10, 2014, 07:39:23 pm
Sometimes Crawford looks like a world beater and sometimes he looks like a Bantam goalie.    If he could stay consistently good, they have the Stanley wrapped up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 14, 2014, 11:47:41 am
This one's for Jigs.

http://deadspin.com/randy-orton-is-rkoing-the-entire-internet-1646153782
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 14, 2014, 12:25:20 pm
Gotta love that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 19, 2014, 02:37:06 am
The Williams "brothers"...

LMAO...

http://m.espn.go.com/general/tennis/story?storyId=11726918
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 19, 2014, 04:58:21 pm
Reports of shouting and fighting in the Bears' lockerroom.  Not good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on October 19, 2014, 08:20:44 pm
They should have shown that spunk on the field, not each other.

Be drafting high this coming Spring for sure.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 19, 2014, 09:13:04 pm
Be drafting high this coming Spring for sure.

They won't be drafting as high as the Titans.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on October 19, 2014, 09:21:56 pm
Maybe the Titans would trade that pick for Cutler?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 27, 2014, 12:23:45 am
Not that too many other people care here, but man, the Titans are a train wreck.  At least the Cubs look like they have a future.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 27, 2014, 12:44:30 am
Im not a Titans fan but I think Mettenberger will be good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 27, 2014, 08:41:53 am
I think he will as well...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 27, 2014, 09:59:23 am
I don't know.  I wasn't too enamored by what I saw yesterday, although I probably only watched about a half of it and a little bit of garbage time.  Still, that was his first start at QB, so I guess you have to cut him some slack there.  At least it looks like they'll be using the rest of the season to find out what they have in Mettenberger.

Hopefully they'll have a chance to draft Marcus Mariota next year, and if he's not there, I imagine they'll be one of those teams having to sweat out a tough decision on Jameis Winston.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on October 27, 2014, 01:06:24 pm
i had to turn the dang TV off  yesterday-it was too hard to watch
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 29, 2014, 10:31:20 pm
The Bulls looked fantastic tonight.  Offensive contributions from just about everyone (except Dunleavy who defended Anthony pretty well).  Solid team defense as usual.  Something tells me Cleveland won't be as easy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on October 29, 2014, 10:37:02 pm
Doug McDermott is a player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 29, 2014, 10:46:31 pm
You could find 10 people on the street and beat the Knicks. Their team picture could be next to "abysmal" in the dictionary. Let's wait and see how the Bulls look against a pro team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 31, 2014, 06:53:43 pm
Where's Deeg? The cheap-ass Bulls may have just lost Jimmy Butler.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jimmy-butler-rejects-bulls--final-offer--plans-to-enter-restricted-free-agency-205721009.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 31, 2014, 07:01:40 pm
We can match all offers and he's over rated anyway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 31, 2014, 07:43:07 pm
The Bulls aren't matching any offer anymore than they did for Asik, and Butler is actually underrated. Or maybe you are missing James scoring at will tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on October 31, 2014, 09:39:59 pm
Rose is hurt. Again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 31, 2014, 09:51:52 pm
And they blew a 5-pt lead with 45 seconds left to lose.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on October 31, 2014, 09:54:08 pm
How bad is Mr. Glass hurt this time?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 31, 2014, 11:02:44 pm
Probably not badly, but there's always the next injury waiting for him when he returns.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 02, 2014, 01:04:55 am
The Bulls survived a 17-pt collapse and near final death blow 3-pter to win Saturday w/out Rose and Gibson. This was mostly due to the overrated Jimmy Butler who returned at less than 100% and with a wrap on his sprained thumb.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 02, 2014, 09:11:38 am
Butler played a fine game.  He forced things a bit too much down the stretch, but that's a minor quibble.  Someone needed to take charge, and he did a nice job at both ends of the court. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on November 02, 2014, 11:15:28 am
Really great, long article about Mirotic, and about the Bulls' scouting of European players.

http://grantland.com/features/nikola-mirotic-chicago-bulls-toni-kukoc-pau-gasol/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 02, 2014, 12:19:43 pm
Thanks, shasson.  That was a fun read.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 04, 2014, 04:21:58 pm
My 33rd birthday is coming up and the old lady decided to treat me right this year and decided to take me to Atlanta to see the Cubs this year and bought me a new set of golf clubs.

The point im trying to make is check out globalgolf.com.

I just bought a King Cobra driver, a King Cobra hybrid, a set of Cobra CXI irons, and a Ping putter for 125 bucks.

Hell a set of wal mart wilsons are 100 bucks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 04, 2014, 04:52:45 pm
My 33rd birthday is coming up and the old lady decided to treat me right this year and decided to take me to Atlanta to see the Cubs this year and bought me a new set of golf clubs.

The point im trying to make is check out globalgolf.com.

I just bought a King Cobra driver, a King Cobra hybrid, a set of Cobra CXI irons, and a Ping putter for 125 bucks.

Hell a set of wal mart wilsons are 100 bucks.

Dusty,

If you are going to be at all serious about golf, your clubs should be fitted to you.  For example, do you need stiff, regular, or flexible shafts?  It's not unlike having your own bowling ball vs using a house ball.  Money spent on lessons is always a good idea too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 04, 2014, 04:59:21 pm
That's awesome Dusty!

Congrats on the golf clubs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 04, 2014, 05:03:10 pm
I can get irons at WalMart for a hundred bucks?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 04, 2014, 05:23:20 pm
Im not great by any means Curt.

Ive played since I was a teenager and the best Ive ever shot on 9 was a 38 and a 80 on 18.

Im the true picture of a weekend beer drinking hacker.

I aint on the level of needing custom fit clubs.

I just want a better set than my buddies.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 04, 2014, 05:24:48 pm
And you can get a complete set not just irons for 100 bucks at Wal Mart.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 04, 2014, 05:25:08 pm
I wouldn't discuss flexible shafts with Dusty.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 04, 2014, 06:05:39 pm
Or the length thereof
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on November 04, 2014, 07:18:36 pm
Congratulations on your new clubs, Dusty.

Wherever they are from, I'll bet Rory McElroy could hit them pretty well...and they should do the job for you (which is to have some fun with your buds).

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on November 05, 2014, 11:06:19 am
your OLD lady? really?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 05, 2014, 11:15:51 am
your OLD lady? really?
She's the one wearing the t-shirt that says "I'm with Stupid."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 07, 2014, 04:40:26 pm
So after I brag up globalgolf.com to you all I get my clubs today and these MFers send me a left handed putter.

After I call and raise hell they decided to give me the putter of my choice for free and told me to keep the left handed one.

So if any of you need a sharp Ping o blade left handed putter I now have one that will never be used.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 07, 2014, 04:57:50 pm
MFers?  ManuFacturers?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 07, 2014, 05:09:21 pm
Yeah.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 07, 2014, 05:25:42 pm
ah okay
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 13, 2014, 10:14:50 pm
Rose hurt himself again tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 13, 2014, 10:23:54 pm
The glass man.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on November 14, 2014, 01:09:24 pm
hang nail
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on November 14, 2014, 04:08:00 pm
hammy
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 14, 2014, 08:45:52 pm
Be nice if the Bulls could get their sh!t together because Cleveland looks beyond shaky. They gave up 42 points in one quarter to Boston tonight and 116 overall with 4 minutes left.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 15, 2014, 08:58:06 pm
The Bulls aren't an elite defensive team anymore which means Rose's health doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 16, 2014, 08:35:57 am
I really hate it when a superior team lacks motivation to the point where they get beaten badly at home.  Given the salaries and the cost of going to the game, the home team should play hard every game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 16, 2014, 03:48:00 pm
The Bulls have added five new players to their 9 man rotation.  Think about that for a minute.  Rose, Mirotic, Brooks, Gasol and McDermott were not on the team last year, except for Rose's 10 game stint.  They are 7-3 despite integrating all these new faces to a system that takes at least a few months to learn.  Good grief what do people expect?  The bench mob in 2010 stunk it up for the better part of 2 months before they gelled and became a force.  Last year the Bulls looked so bad after Rose went down most people were calling for them to tank.  I think I'll wait at least a month until I declare that they are not an elite defensive team any more or before I make any blanket statements about their potential.  So far they are scoring at a remarkable pace and have shown flashes of what their defense can be when they put in the effort.  I would love for Rose to be fully healthy but if you thought he would come back from this long a layoff and not have small injuries along the way, you are nuts.  I fully expect this team to have the best regular season record in the conference if not the league and to make the conference finals.  Not sure if they can ever beat Lebron but if they can, it will be this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 16, 2014, 04:07:00 pm
Robb, did you watch the game last night?  You can't attribute that performance to getting adjusted alone.  Look at the adjustments the Pacers have had to make!  And it's not just the Bulls, I went to a number of Warrior games last season, and in several of them they just stunk against poor opponents.  You aren't going to win them all, but let downs against inferior teams at home are disappointing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 16, 2014, 04:34:57 pm
Yeah that 7 and 2 start sure sucks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 16, 2014, 05:17:53 pm
The Bulls have played basically three teams with a pulse and are 1-2 in those games. They've played the second easiest schedule in the league according to Sagarin. They're around 9th or 10th in most offensive and defensive categories which looks worse with the lack of quality opposition.

Time to gel or not, their team "D' has never looked this mediocre under Thibodeau.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 16, 2014, 05:18:39 pm
Quote
Yeah that 7 and 2 start sure sucks.

You can pretty much thank Jimmy Butler for that. You know, the guy you think is overrated.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 16, 2014, 05:53:43 pm
With the improvement in his jump shot, Butler is now an impressive all around stud.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 16, 2014, 06:02:17 pm
With a great attitude:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-jimmy-butler-offense-spt-1117-20141116-story.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 25, 2014, 09:51:45 pm
Rose left tonight's game with another hamstring injury. In other words, it's a day ending in "y".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 25, 2014, 10:58:28 pm
Im so over him.

Its time to cut our ties.

All the talent in the world but no heart.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 26, 2014, 01:54:20 am
I don't buy the no heart thing. He's just fragile as tissue paper.

Also, it's the Bulls so Noah and Gibson were also out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2014, 03:20:27 am
Its not like Im the first person to ever be wrong here and I dont know if he can keep it up but Jimmy Butler is making me eat my words.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on November 27, 2014, 08:50:51 am


(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/CBCF/J-J-B-R_zps57a9659a.jpg)


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 27, 2014, 09:07:44 am
They should explore trading rose at this point and get some value back for him...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on November 27, 2014, 09:52:51 am
'Hawks beat Avalanche 3-2 last night...Rose-Cutler bah-humbug
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2014, 11:09:19 am
Love the D Rose thing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 28, 2014, 03:10:00 pm
College football game between Marshall and Western Kentucky just ended up 67-66 in OT. There were a combined 78 1st downs and 1,446 yards of offense. The QB's threw for 15 TD's and over 400 yards apiece. Each team had a RB over 200 yards.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 30, 2014, 08:26:33 pm
I'm sure CurtOne had a happy day today with Bo Pelini being shown the door.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 30, 2014, 09:00:26 pm
Im waiting for Boff to get on here and say everyone from Bill Billichick to Nick Saban wants the job.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 02, 2014, 10:05:51 pm
Wonder what the Bulls could get for a Rose/Hinrich package...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on December 03, 2014, 11:29:29 am
Can't imagine a more entertaining Tuesday-night, early-season NBA game. That was fun, despite the outcome.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 03, 2014, 12:14:47 pm
It tired of all this injury news.  http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-corey-crawford-injury-20141203-story.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 07, 2014, 09:59:10 pm
The Blackhawks are on a hot streak though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 07, 2014, 10:19:54 pm
Thank goodness.  I watched the Bulls-Warriors game with my wife (a Warrior fan) last night and it was brutal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 07, 2014, 10:43:33 pm
Holy crap.  I was just looking at the list of bowl games and the participants.  At least half those teams don't deserve to go bowling and a third of the bowls shouldn't exist.  Pathetic.  Extraordinary year that would have justified an 8 team playoff rather than just 4, but some years you won't even have 4 deserving teams so...oh well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 07, 2014, 11:02:00 pm
. . .  and a third of the bowls shouldn't exist.  Pathetic. 

A lot of that can be blamed on ESPN.  They own and created 11 of these bowl games on their own.

http://espnevents.com/blog/press/espn-events-announces-2014-bowl-lineup/ (http://espnevents.com/blog/press/espn-events-announces-2014-bowl-lineup/)

I also think it's amusing to see some of the third rate companies that are sponsoring a lot of these bowl games.  Royal Purple Bowl?  Quick Lane Bowl?  Duck Commander?  Foster Farms Bowl?  TaxSlayer Bowl? 

Bitcoin sponsors a bowl, and there's so much sleaziness that goes on with that company.  That's even one of the ESPN owned bowl games, and they have Bitcoin sponsoring it?  That's about as desperate as it gets.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 07, 2014, 11:04:14 pm
Of course, I think college football is a pretty sleazy business to begin with, so it shouldn't be surprising that they have to make cash grabs from some of these oddball outfits sponsoring their bowl games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 08, 2014, 12:05:21 am
Im appreciative of the TaxSlayer Bowl this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 08, 2014, 12:30:13 pm
Hasn't Bickell tended to raise the level of his game during the postseason?  That's definitely worth something!  Plus, he's one of the few B'Hawks that can lay some lumber on the opposition.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on December 08, 2014, 12:38:56 pm
for this recent run of dominance for the Hawks, where they've grabbed first place in their division, Richards *has* been the second line center with Kane and Versteeg and they've been the 'Hawks' best line.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 08, 2014, 03:46:13 pm
Patrick Sharp returns tomorrow and skated on the third line with Shaw and Bickell today. Seems as though the top two lines stay intact for now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 08, 2014, 04:33:21 pm
Hey, JR, take the quiz

http://www.hlntv.com/interactive/2013/12/10/bowl-games-real-fake-quiz-college-football?hpt=hp_t4
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 08, 2014, 06:50:22 pm
I  see nothing wrong with all the bowl games.

More football the better for me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on December 14, 2014, 05:43:31 am
http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/13/after-further-review-get-out-of-my-courtroom/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on December 14, 2014, 06:52:04 pm
Mike Dunleavy just scored 19 points in a quarter. Of an NBA game. For real.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 19, 2014, 08:55:07 pm
If nothing else, at least the Chicago Bulls have discovered that Mirotic is the real deal this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 19, 2014, 09:29:41 pm
Very impressive win by the Bulls tonight against Memphis without Rose and Gibson.

Nikola Mirotic can play if given the chance. So can Aaron Brooks.

I'll take 17-9 anytime especially since they have been a full squad about 3 times this season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on December 19, 2014, 10:25:51 pm
Grizz were worn out from past few games...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 19, 2014, 11:05:14 pm
Jimmy Butler has out of the blue became a stud.

I was wrong.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on December 22, 2014, 09:38:16 am
Jimmy Butler has out of the blue became a stud.

I was wrong.

They definitely need to find a way to keep this kid.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 22, 2014, 11:16:59 am
They will keep him.  He's the quintessntial Bulls-type player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on December 22, 2014, 01:25:32 pm
They will keep him.  He's the quintessntial Bulls-type player.
He has earned the contract he has been shooting for...He will not be leaving CHI
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2014, 07:21:29 pm
Bulls low-balled Deng, then messed around with Butler. Wouldn't pay Asik either. Wouldn't be so sure they'll pony up for what is looking like a massive contract.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 22, 2014, 07:22:31 pm
Losing Butler would be much worse than losing Deng or Asik.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 22, 2014, 07:33:37 pm
Asik is a scrub and the truth came out about Deng.

Those 2 werent losses.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2014, 08:00:30 pm
Not sure what the truth is about Deng. Asik is averaging nearly 11 rebounds a game in just 26 minutes and is a terrific interior defender.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2014, 08:01:13 pm
Asik would be nice to have on night's like tonight when Noah and Gasol are abysmal and the Bulls are getting clobbered by a better Toronto team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2014, 08:11:19 pm
Toronto has 66 points at half in Chicago without their leading scorer DeRozan. As I said previously, the Bulls do not play title contending defense.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2014, 09:08:54 pm
Bulls have battled back from 12 down to take the lead in the 4th.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2014, 09:24:31 pm
Bulls going with Mirotic down the stretch rather than Gibson. Maybe for matchup purposes but still pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2014, 09:30:58 pm
Great 4th for Rose. Bulls 38-41 from the foul line which has to be a team record.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 22, 2014, 09:39:12 pm
Rose with 29, Butler with 27. The team shot 43-47 from the free throw line. They also had a team total of  13 blocks.

Two wins against Toronto now. But the defense is still pretty bad or not what we are used to be seeing over the past several years. That 4th quarter on defense was very sloppy, especially the final 2-3 minutes.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 22, 2014, 10:20:36 pm
It's nice to have an offense that can make up for defensive lapses.  It's hard to play consistent lock down defense game in and game out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on December 23, 2014, 01:10:05 pm
Bulls low-balled Deng, then messed around with Butler. Wouldn't pay Asik either. Wouldn't be so sure they'll pony up for what is looking like a massive contract.
and in hindsight i think we all know that neither of the two were/are worth the money they asked for from CHI....Butler is a better overall player than either of the other two
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 23, 2014, 01:24:42 pm
Agreed. Fully.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 23, 2014, 02:50:45 pm
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and in hindsight i think we all know that neither of the two were/are worth the money they asked for from CHI....Butler is a better overall player than either of the other two

Not sure what your point is. The Bulls didn't make any of those moves because they think Butler is the best player of the three. They're simply cheap and have been. Just because one guy is better than the other doesn't mean the other can't be of service.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 23, 2014, 03:01:17 pm
That dont mean they're worth what they asked either.

This really isnt hard to understand.

As far as Deng goes word is he's a clubhouse lawyer and very shady

I guess you call those types cancers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 23, 2014, 07:55:07 pm
Worth is relative. You have to pay to keep good players.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 23, 2014, 08:10:25 pm
I really don't see that they missed out on all that much by not paying to keep Deng or Asik.  Both are good players, but their roles are filled with better players on the current roster.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 23, 2014, 08:19:26 pm
Bulls go into Washington and get another road win. 99-91.

Rose with 25, Gasol with 18. The bench had 36 points.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 23, 2014, 08:27:42 pm
They won that game despite an off night from Butler and few standout performances.

Rose made a slew of shots down the stretch again. He's starting to produce better basketball in reduced minutes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 23, 2014, 08:37:45 pm
It's nice to have a team with versatility.  If the Bulls have off nights from only a player or two, they have plenty of weapons to compete against anyone.  If no one has an off night, not many teams can beat them.

BTW, my wife and I also root for the Warriors.  How much fun has that been so far this season?  I'm hoping for a Bulls-Warriors NBA finals.  You can always hope!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 23, 2014, 09:23:55 pm
76ers beat the Heat tonight.

Deng had 7 points.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 23, 2014, 09:24:39 pm
P2, have you went to a Warriors game this season?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 23, 2014, 09:35:43 pm
Just one game so far, JB.  The Warriors and the Pelicans.  We have 4 games in January including the Thunder, Nuggets, and Bulls.  Should be fun.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 25, 2014, 09:27:24 pm
Chicago blows the Lakers away the final 7 minutes of the game 113-91.

Gasol 23, Rose 20, Butler 21,  Mirotic and Brooks with 13.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 25, 2014, 09:44:27 pm
Mirotic is coming around.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 25, 2014, 10:59:36 pm
Mirotic has been really good for more than a month now. Not much he can't do offensively.

Butler should be top five in MVP voting as of this moment.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 26, 2014, 12:06:52 am
He is bad to the bone now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 27, 2014, 04:33:16 am
A breakdown of Jimmy Butler's game this year:

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2014/12/22/secret-behind-jimmy-butlers-evolution-with-film-breakdown/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 27, 2014, 09:18:57 pm
Somehow the Bulls won that game. 107-100

Butler with 33, Rose 19 with 1 assist.  Bulls bench had 37.

That Anthony Davis kid is good. 29 points and 6 blocks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 27, 2014, 09:43:13 pm
He looks like he's gained 75 lbs of muscle.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 28, 2014, 05:39:38 pm
Detroit just went into Cleveland and trashed them one end of the court to the other.

Cleveland just doesn't have a very good bench outside of Waiters.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 28, 2014, 06:54:28 pm
Cleveland's also a poor defensive team though the Bulls aren't close to what they used to be either. Losing Varejao for the year was a big blow.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 28, 2014, 06:59:37 pm
Irving is out as well. Something about his knee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 29, 2014, 04:18:57 pm
Yesterday, I heard Trestman say he didn't expect to be fired.  Finally I understood how oblivious the guy really was.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 29, 2014, 04:24:25 pm
At least the Bears are cleaning house and making changes.

The Titans still seem content to stick with the same front office clowns that have sent them spiraling straight down the toilet.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 29, 2014, 04:25:41 pm
Watching the Titans down the stretch the last couple of seasons has been as downright boring as watching the Cubs, except for the fact that the Cubs have a good long term plan in place where you could at least hope for a brighter future while the Titans are run by clueless idiots.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 29, 2014, 04:27:58 pm
Watching the Titans down the stretch the last couple of seasons has been as downright boring as watching the Cubs, except for the fact that the Cubs have a good long term plan in place where you could at least hope for a brighter future while the Titans are run by clueless idiots.
whiner
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 29, 2014, 08:08:17 pm
Bulls have blown a 21 point lead and trail by 3.

No excuse for that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 29, 2014, 08:25:24 pm
Bulls win 92-90.

C.J. Watson missed a wide open three with 0.05 left.

Mercy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 29, 2014, 08:38:59 pm
They can't even give one away!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 30, 2014, 03:11:31 am
Butler hit the three to win it. Rose continues to take bad shots and play in confusing fashion.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 30, 2014, 02:50:17 pm
LeBron not happy?

Reports: LeBron James could leave Cleveland and he may not like his coach

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/reports--lebron-james-could-leave-cleveland-and-he-may-not-like-his-coach-184027461.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 30, 2014, 03:27:36 pm
He wont leave Cleveland... he might get that coach fired... but really doubt he leaves.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 30, 2014, 03:35:29 pm
Interesting that his competition from Chicago is listed as Jimmy Butler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 30, 2014, 04:50:52 pm
Butler has been firing on all cylinders so far.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 30, 2014, 06:02:29 pm
Agreed that Lebron aint leaving Cleveland.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 30, 2014, 07:51:06 pm
Rose plays like he has some kind of permanent head injury.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 30, 2014, 07:56:25 pm
It was only three straight turnovers...

New Jersey is taking it to them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 30, 2014, 08:28:52 pm
Rose plays like he has some kind of permanent head injury.

This is true... getting hurt is in his head now....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 30, 2014, 08:47:12 pm
He doesn't play smart basketball at all, and his lackadaisical style is irritating. He can't guard anyone, and no matter how many stand-still jumpers he misses, he keeps chucking them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 30, 2014, 09:27:04 pm
They should trade him now...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 31, 2014, 01:57:32 am
2-15 and 4 points.

He wasn't the only problem though. Brooks gets ejected, Butler and Gasol were just as bad.

When Tony Snell and Dunleavy has the best game you know  it was a bad night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 01, 2015, 02:42:55 pm
SEC has had a rough 3 days in their bowl games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 01, 2015, 03:31:13 pm
Thatll stop tomorrow at about 6 pm.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 01, 2015, 03:32:27 pm
But truth is Im glad the SEC is losing.

Those teams are our rivals.

I dont ever want to see them win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 01, 2015, 04:05:51 pm
Weird coincidence, SEC limited over signing 3 years ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 01, 2015, 07:58:30 pm
Rose stinking the joint up again. All he does is dribble the varnish off the floor and then take a standstill jumper.

7-42 with 8 TO's the last 2-1/2 games.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 01, 2015, 09:27:10 pm
He was horrible in the first half, but  7-18 in the 2nd half with 15 points and 8 assists.

Team had 18 blocks. Bulls bench was the bog difference tonight outscoring them 34-18.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 01, 2015, 10:18:54 pm
Boy wont it be a great night if FSU and Alabama both lose?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 01, 2015, 10:47:46 pm
Boy wont it be a great night if FSU and Alabama both lose?

I think Jim Ross enjoyed the Oregon-FSU game, Jigs.

http://deadspin.com/oregons-blowout-rose-bowl-win-over-fsu-as-called-by-j-1677035995
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 01, 2015, 11:24:09 pm
Another SEC team going down.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 01, 2015, 11:28:16 pm
Just think, without the playoff system, Alabama would probably have beaten Florida State today for the National Championship.  With the system, both are going home.  Alabama game, of course, is not over, but...

The two best teams I've seen are Oregon and TCU although Ohio State is playing well.

I wonder if this will shut Colin Cowherd up for at least a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 01, 2015, 11:42:30 pm
Oregon and TCU would have been a great  game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 02, 2015, 12:00:30 am
I think Jim Ross enjoyed the Oregon-FSU game, Jigs.

http://deadspin.com/oregons-blowout-rose-bowl-win-over-fsu-as-called-by-j-1677035995

Great JR.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 03, 2015, 08:28:31 pm
Is Rose trying to play his way out of Chicago? Playing like a guy at the "Y" right now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 03, 2015, 10:11:05 pm
With Rose playing like a YMCA has been, the Bulls are still 24-10 and have the 3rd best record in the conference.

Gasol and Brooks have been great additions.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 04, 2015, 09:42:38 am
Rose has had to deal with the physical and mental aspects of returning from a series of serious injuries.  He is still finding his way.  Not to mention running a team that is quite different from what he had been used to, and trying to determine how to utilize his abilities.  The Bulls will not be a serious contender to win it all unless he stays healthy and becomes consistently an excellent player (he needn't be playing at superstar level).  I'm hopeful that will happen by playoff time, but of course the jury is still out. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 04, 2015, 10:07:53 am
Stuart Scott died this morning.

He was 49.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 04, 2015, 03:04:41 pm
The Bulls have quietly opened up a 5-game lead in the division.


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on January 04, 2015, 07:44:18 pm
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Stuart Scott died this morning.

He was 49.

I wonder who is going to give him the Boo-yah during the eulogy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 05, 2015, 07:30:11 pm
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Rose has had to deal with the physical and mental aspects of returning from a series of serious injuries.  He is still finding his way.  Not to mention running a team that is quite different from what he had been used to, and trying to determine how to utilize his abilities.

He's playing like he has no interest in basketball. Zero energy, zero passion. He's standing around doing nothing in the 1st quarter tonight as his man is scoring and grabbing offensive rebounds at will. He simply looks uninterested.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 05, 2015, 07:43:11 pm
He's playing like he has no interest in basketball. Zero energy, zero passion. He's standing around doing nothing in the 1st quarter tonight as his man is scoring and grabbing offensive rebounds at will. He simply looks uninterested.

+1. Really did not think rose would be the weak link on this team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 05, 2015, 09:19:36 pm
Bulls rally all night for a great win against Houston. Butler and Mirotic really lead the charge late.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 05, 2015, 09:22:55 pm
Cleveland lost to the 76ers.  Bulls lead the division now by 6. 2015 champs  Cav's in panic mode as they trade for  J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert and dump Waiters.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on January 06, 2015, 01:08:20 pm
+1. Really did not think rose would be the weak link on this team.
i don't view Rose as the weak link to this team at all.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 06, 2015, 01:52:51 pm
An article on Rose probably not written by Chris:

http://www.csnchicago.com/bulls/aggressive-derrick-rose-finally-finds-attack-mode-bulls-win?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 07, 2015, 09:24:09 am
Detroit drops Josh Smith and goes undefeated in their last 6 including beating the Spurs on the road last night.  Houston picks him up immediately goes into a tailspin.  The guy has all the talent in the world but is one of the dumbest players in league history.  So glad the Bulls don't bring in guys like him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2015, 04:46:31 pm
Eh. While I'm no fan of Josh Smith, the Rockets have lost three games by micro margins against quality teams (Chi, SA, Wash) since he came over, two of those on the road. A play here or there and they're 6-1 with him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2015, 04:47:53 pm
Should be noted that the Cavs got Timofey Mozgov from the Nuggets today. If Shumpert gets healthy, then Cleveland has improved their team dramatically on paper the last three days.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2015, 08:03:34 pm
Rose's first half against Utah tonight: 0-9, 1 point, 0 assists
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 11, 2015, 08:54:23 am
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NBA analysts suggest that LeBron James’ basketball odometer is nearing an end. He has played 34,364 minutes. Is that valid? Jason Terry, now a role player at Houston, has played 37,745 minutes through Friday. Mike Bibby played 33,962 minutes before his body shut down at the elite level.

What's next?  Anybody want to venture a guess?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 11, 2015, 08:56:49 am
bWar?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 11, 2015, 05:03:23 pm
If I were a Detroit fan I'd say, "Dallas,  karma is a ****."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 11, 2015, 05:06:17 pm
Dallas used to automatically get calls like the not completed pass play at the end of the game.  Was it because they were playing the other NFL TV favorite team, the Green Bay Packers?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 11, 2015, 05:21:15 pm
I think it was the right call but I've long thought that rule sucks
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on January 12, 2015, 08:26:21 am
I thought it was similar to a trap catch - where the ground cannot assist in the catch
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 12, 2015, 08:53:41 am
According to the rules it wasn't a catch.  But that rule more than any other is a stupid one.  The receiver clearly caught the ball.  All the crap afterward is semantics.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 12, 2015, 09:09:21 am
If an outfielder snares a ball in a similar manner and then loses control when his glove hits the ground it is not a catch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on January 13, 2015, 12:40:04 am
I'm just gonna leave this here.

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q86/strikezone3n2/Brutus_Trophy_2015.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 13, 2015, 12:58:17 am
Can't blame ya.  Ohio State definitely deserved it. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 13, 2015, 01:01:12 am
I'm sure it'll never happen, but if I was one of these teams with an NFL job opening (or a team like the Titans that hasn't accomplished anything in years and don't look like they will any time soon), I'd throw a ton of money at Urban Meyer and see if he'd be willing to leave college.  He's one of the very best coaches at any level there is.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 13, 2015, 05:07:35 am
The Bulls defense is a disgrace. They suck at home and Noah is a non factor these days.

Its safe to say they won't win the title this season, or make it past the 2nd round. The only bright spot is Gasol.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 13, 2015, 05:38:17 am
And lots of voters wanted TCU in instead.  Still needs an 8 team tweak.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 13, 2015, 07:19:34 am
JB, it's hard to imagine Thibs allowing them the team to ignore defense for long.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 13, 2015, 10:00:31 am
I wonder if there isn't a mini rebellion going on with the Bulls this season.  They know that defense is necessary, but they also experienced last year's meltdown against Washington when they didn't have anything left in the tank come playoff time.  So if Thibs can't manage their minutes and their practices to allow them to recover, they will manage their effort. 

Operating on that premise, I can't help wonder of Pau isn't behind the scenes telling him that that is what championship teams do.  The Bulls in seasons past have never had a second playoff gear.  This team appears to be coasting unless it is a marquee matchup where they give full effort.  They go into LA and beat the Clippers without Derek.  They look like world beaters against the Rockets, yet lose a few days later to Utah at home.  The 90's Bulls used to coast at times in the regular season as well.  This team has the talent to do so, but they aren't used to it.  Plucking a win from the jaws of defeat requires an all world closer.  The 90's Bulls had that.  This team could have that if Derek ever starts putting it together.  In the mean time I hope they realize they're not good enough to coast and up their intensity a few notches.  Maybe not all the way, but a little bit more so they don't have to work so hard to beat the beatables. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 14, 2015, 08:53:20 pm
I said early in the year that the Bulls didn't play championship defense. Nothing's changed. Worst defensive team since Thibodeau's been here by far. They get no defensive push on the perimeter as Rose sleepwalks on that end.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 14, 2015, 09:18:21 pm
They suck. Just another typical piece of **** team from Chicago.

The defense is garbage. Whatever was working a few weeks ago is gone and done. They won't make it out of the first round of the playoffs again.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 14, 2015, 09:27:35 pm
The clock has stuck midnight for Jimmy Butler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 14, 2015, 10:05:46 pm
I dont think they're that bad.

As a matter of fact I'd bet money they're at least an ECF team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on January 15, 2015, 01:09:57 pm
They are not that bad. They are not playing real good right now, but they have some time to get their shizzz together before the playoffs
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 16, 2015, 07:26:50 pm
Celtics shooting 60% against the Bulls nearing halftime. This is with no Rondo and no Jeff Green.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 16, 2015, 08:45:23 pm
Rose and Butler have big second halves and the Bulls pull away from Boston. Still gave up 103 points to a team in the middle of a tank job.
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Post by: guest61 on January 16, 2015, 09:13:10 pm
If your wife's giving you a bj Chris do you **** if she dont fix her hair first?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 16, 2015, 09:50:11 pm
Stay classy, Dusty. It's always been your calling card.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 16, 2015, 10:34:39 pm
Bulls looked much better tonight. Defense sucked until the 4th quarter. Rose is looking much better (29 points and 10 assists), but now Noah is out for awhile. Nikola Mirotic is playing good defense but now his offense is struggling.

They have red hot Atlanta tomorrow night.
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Post by: wmljohn on January 16, 2015, 10:35:05 pm
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If your wife's giving you a bj Chris do you **** if she dont fix her hair first?

You don't?  Who wants to look down at a crows nest?  We own a hair salon.  Her hair better be looking good.   ;D
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Post by: guest61 on January 16, 2015, 11:20:29 pm
Crows nest...

LMAO
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 17, 2015, 09:09:45 pm
Bulls lost and confused once again. The defense is so bad.

I doubt they could beat the 76ers at this point.
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Post by: shasson on January 17, 2015, 10:04:31 pm
The 32-8 Hawks, winners of 27 of their last 29, and 12 in a row, beat the Noah-less, Dunleavy-free Bulls. Oh, the horror, the horror.....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 17, 2015, 10:48:11 pm
Come on shasson, you're not concerned by now? The Bulls have looked below average for weeks. The defense has been poor almost all year. Rose is a shell of his former self. Noah has been injured and subpar all season. I mean, are you really putting all of the Bulls' eggs in the Mike Dunleavy basket? That's desperation. The Hawks are no powerhouse in spite of the record. Hell, the Bulls were beaten by former 8th man on their own squad Kyle Korver.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on January 17, 2015, 11:29:42 pm
I'm concerned, absolutely, about the defense. It's weird how mediocore they've been. And Dunleavy in the lineup gives them a different dimension, that they miss. No idea what to expect from Rose -- he's been really good 3 games in a row, but it would be stupid to expect that to be a consistent thing. If Noah's injuries hobble him all year, that's a huge problem. Overall, though, more positives than not. They are, relative to the East, really good.

But I disagree about the Hawks They are legit and really good and losing to them, as an isolated incident, is not at all cause for concern.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 18, 2015, 04:41:34 am
The Bulls next three games could be bad as well.

at Cleveland
vs. San Antonio
at Dallas

I'd be shocked if they won one of those, even though Cleveland's defense is worse than Chicago's.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 18, 2015, 08:23:41 am
I have been disappointed by the Bulls' recent play.  Fortunately, there is no juggernaut in the East and if the Bulls are playing well come playoff time, it won't matter much what seed they have.  There are a lot of games left to play and there is time for the Bulls to work things out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 18, 2015, 01:24:33 pm
They don't match up with Washington or Atlanta. It's not even close.

When you only play 8 players a night they will be wore down by the time the playoffs start once again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 19, 2015, 07:31:01 pm
Bulls look like crap again. Down 16 in the first half.

Cleveland having no issues with this garbage defense in the first half anyway.

Rose, Butler, and Hinrich are combined 1-18 with 9 points. Thankful they can hit some free throws. No emotion on the court what so ever.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 19, 2015, 07:36:00 pm
Cleveland isn't playing very well either or this would be a complete curb-stomping.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 19, 2015, 09:20:37 pm
Thibs might not last the season.  He seems to have no clue what to do to get the most of this group, particularly at the defensive end.  And the players do not appear to be having any fun out there. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 19, 2015, 09:34:46 pm
How can Thibs be the problem? He made them the best defensive team in the league for years. Now he's clueless?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on January 22, 2015, 09:35:37 pm
Nice and pretty surprising blowout over the Spurs tonight. I'm thinking the Bulls will be erratic for a while, but if Noah comes back, they still can be in the hunt as best in the East.

Hasn't Rose strung together about 4 good games in a row?

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 22, 2015, 09:54:49 pm
Those sorry ass Bulls sure looked sharp tonight.

I'd hate to see what they'd do if they were any good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on January 23, 2015, 01:09:20 pm
Its Obama's fault
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 23, 2015, 09:33:55 pm
Very good win by the Bulls in Dallas tonight. Noah returned though he was just okay. Butler was great after halftime and down the stretch, Gibson had one of his better games recently, and Tony Snell played shockingly well starting for Dunleavy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 23, 2015, 10:04:24 pm
They suck though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 24, 2015, 12:12:30 am
Decent 3rd quarter for Klay Thompson tonight.  37 points, an NBA record for a quarter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 24, 2015, 12:29:50 am
He's better than his daddy was.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 25, 2015, 01:00:36 pm
Bulls down 10 to Miami at the half.

A whole exciting 38 points. What is Golden State going to do to them Tuesday night?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 25, 2015, 02:17:18 pm
Bulls lose.

Not much to say other than they sucked  shooting the ball and Hassan Whiteside kicked their ass.

Golden State should win by 20+ Tuesday night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 25, 2015, 02:28:10 pm
And I'm going to have to sit through it at Oracle with my wife rooting for the Warriors.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 27, 2015, 11:07:18 pm
Bulls are actually playing good. They are tied 75-75 late in the 3rd but do they have enough?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 27, 2015, 11:21:13 pm
Doesn't look like it.

Get rid of Hinirch already.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 27, 2015, 11:25:01 pm
Rose has 11 turnovers and 0 assists. That has to be hard to do.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 27, 2015, 11:49:25 pm
Bulls have a chance to win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 27, 2015, 11:49:54 pm
And they go to who else but Kirk Hinrich. Splash.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 27, 2015, 11:55:34 pm
Manage to let GS get a tip-in with 1 second left to send it to OT.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 28, 2015, 12:28:51 am
Bulls somehow pull it out on a Rose jumper late.

Strange the teams they beaten and lost to this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 28, 2015, 12:40:16 am
But they're sorry and dont play D.

Smh.......
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 28, 2015, 12:43:22 am
Their defense has stunk this year whether you shake your head or not.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on January 28, 2015, 06:32:12 am
Looks like you got to see a great game, P2.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 28, 2015, 08:44:58 am
I was pretty miserable during regulation.  The Bulls got behind and stayed behind most of the game, and my wife celebrated with the Oracle fans (she tried to hold back, but couldn't help herself).  It was good to see the Bulls come back and play some tough physical defense in the later stages of the game.  I thought the officiating was pretty awful.  Gasol must have been whacked in the head 3 or 4 times with no foul called.  Finally they called a foul when Curry tried to gouge his eye out.

Some weird decisions by the Warriors, especially at the end of regulation when their out of bounds play down 2 was to have Iguodala shoot a 3.  They were lucky to get the offensive rebound to send the game into overtime.  The Bulls really missed Butler, as Hinrich had no chance defensively against Thompson's size.  Of course, the Warriors desperately missed Bogut to combat the Bulls' size and strength, particularly in OT.

In all, I liked the Bulls' effort after the first quarter, but I didn't see anything that gives me much confidence should the teams meet up again in the postseason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on January 28, 2015, 09:10:24 am
Rose was a sloppy mess, but he was an aggressive, energetic sloppy mess, and he made plays at key times (pass to Kirk for the late 3 in regulation, stop on Curry, and game-winning jumper over Thompson).  He's weird to watch right now.
With Bogut out, it seems like if the Bulls just force-fed Gasol all night they might have won in regulation by 10.

But, still, 4th game in 6 nights and they beat San Antonio, Dallas and the invincible splash bros. at their arena. That was a hellavu fun game on a Tuesday night in January.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 28, 2015, 11:24:26 am
The problem is they now have to play a very bad Lakers team on Thursday night which means thy will half-ass it through three quarters and try to pull it out in the 4th.  Hopefully the fact Pau is returning to LA for the first team will give them some emotion.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 28, 2015, 11:26:37 am
On Rose last night, I'd much rather have that version of Rose than the laid back lethargic version we've seen most of this year.  He knew they were down Jimmy so he tried to pick it up and carry the extra load, the problem is he doesn't know how to do that efficiently any more.  I think this was really good for his comeback.  He'll get better from here.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 28, 2015, 11:34:05 am
The kind of moves Rose put on illustrates that he feels he is just about all the way back physically.  He showed no fear.  The ball handling/passing gaffes were terrible and he needs to figure out not to force his passes and how to do a better job of keeping his teammates involved offensively.  That said, if he can stay healthy, I expect his floor management game and will become more consistent and from all appearances the rest of his offensive game is on the upswing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on January 29, 2015, 11:04:35 am
Just got a notice from The Score stating that Thib's relationship with Bulls management is "beyond repair."  Wonder what that means.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 29, 2015, 11:52:28 pm
Just pathetic play by the Bulls tonight.  This team is broken.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 30, 2015, 12:25:30 am
Tell that to Golden State and San Antonio.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 30, 2015, 03:00:03 am
Orlando and the Lakers already know this.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 30, 2015, 09:08:14 am
Thibs must go.  His coaching style is unbalanced and he hasn't shown an ability to put players in the best position to succeed.  Continuing to try Mirotic at the 3 is an example.  It completely takes him out of his game.  Thibs would be great as an assistant coach much like Ron Adams but I doubt he will ever coach a championship team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 30, 2015, 09:09:19 am
Thibs also has no fun with the game, and the players appear to take after him.  And it rubs off on those of us watching the games as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 30, 2015, 09:20:40 am
Much like Skiles I think Thibs has a shelf life.  You can only put the pedal to the floor for so long. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 30, 2015, 01:49:09 pm
The anti-Bulls:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/feature/25006230
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 30, 2015, 02:09:19 pm
In the second round of the Waste Management Phoenix open, Tiger Woods shot an 11 over par 82 - his worst round as a professional.

Rory McIlroy may have been correct when he recently named Tiger as one of a couple golfers who don't have many holes left in their career.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 30, 2015, 02:42:21 pm
It's pretty amazing how much his career has gone down since the sex scandal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 30, 2015, 02:42:44 pm
You folks wanting Thibs gone will regret it when they end up with VDN2.  It ain't his fault there are few good defenders on the team, or that Rose is now a mediocre player, or that his team is injury prone.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 30, 2015, 02:51:28 pm
You folks wanting Thibs gone will regret it ... ain't his fault... that Rose is now a mediocre player, or that his team is injury prone.


+1
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 30, 2015, 03:45:40 pm
+2

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 30, 2015, 03:47:29 pm
And I also agree that Tiger's about done.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 30, 2015, 04:27:25 pm
And I also agree that Tiger's about done.
Tiger fluffed another simple chip shot today.  He wasn't far off the green and still didn't make it to the putting surface.  At some point that can't be very far away, he will have to start worrying about staying around too long. 

Willie Mays is one of my all-time favorite ballplayers.   It's sad to think about how Willie embarrassed himself when he ended his career with the Mets.  Tiger fans, and I'm not one of them,  have to be worried that he is doing the same thing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 30, 2015, 04:46:15 pm
Of Bulls interest:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/the-chicago-bulls-are-at-the-crossroads-211634533.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 30, 2015, 04:48:52 pm
Im not a Tiger fan either but you get the feeling with him that his issues are as mental as Rick Ankiel and Mackey Sasser's were that's why there's still some glimmer of hope if he could just get past it.

Ive heard/read that he was an arrogant bastard that thought he was better than everyone else and once the truth came out about his issues it ate him up so bad he's been mindfucked every since.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 30, 2015, 04:54:20 pm
Chris, it looks like Dwyer would support replacing Thibs if there were a good head coaching candidate available.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 30, 2015, 05:14:55 pm
The Rose/Bulls dynamic is broken. I dont think he will ever be able to lead the team... and i think the team has quit on rose more then thibs...

Rose has the same look now that Billy Koch had when he moved to the white sox. He has no confidence left and is forcing the issue instead of accepting his limitations.... at this point the sooner the bulls cut bait the better off they will be.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 30, 2015, 05:23:39 pm
I totally disagree about Rose.  I think a big part of the problem is the offensive system and approach taken by the team.  And the inability of other players to hit wide open 3's is a big problem (the return of Dunleavy whenever that happens will be a big help).  Rose has come a long way back with respect to having the physical ability to penetrate and finish strong.  His ball handling, never his strength, is currently a weakness but his assist:turnover will improve with better offensive balance.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 30, 2015, 05:32:38 pm
Has the offense approach changed that drastically?

Has the approach been changing steadily over the last 3-4 years? Rose's FG% has dropped every year since his 2nd year with the team (even if you discount last year since only 10 games played)

TO ratio has gone up every year too... granted his assists have trended up the entire time. He just doesnt look to be anywhere near the same player... lot of miles and injuries on those legs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 30, 2015, 05:39:21 pm
It's not realistic to expect Rose to ever again be the player he was at his peak.  But he has regained a lot of the quickness and finishing ability that has been his main offensive calling card.  His outside shooting was never a strength, but that is something that he can actually work on to improve.  My biggest concerns about him are his lackluster defense and turnovers.  Too often, they are playing poor team defense and too little is being done to take some of the offensive load off his back when he is in the game.  Again, with respect to the latter point, having a few guys around him who can actually sink an open 3 is key.  That element was in fine evidence early in the season but has been missing for the last several weeks.  Dunleavy's return will help a lot there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 30, 2015, 06:01:46 pm
Also, Noah has only just recently started to look like himself out there.  A healthy and active Noah is key, as Gasol while a fine offensive player needs a lot of help defensively.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 30, 2015, 06:48:09 pm
So poor shooting is expected, poor defense is now also expected, poor turn over ratio expected, missing at-least 30% of a season sadly is also expected.

Is a loss of confidence also expected? Bulls are making rose the center point of the team... imo that is never going to work.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 30, 2015, 07:28:36 pm
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Chris, it looks like Dwyer would support replacing Thibs if there were a good head coaching candidate available.

Isn't that the case for every head coach ever? If the old Bulls had a better replacement for Phil Jackson they may have replaced him too.

I don't agree with all of Dwyer's opinions, but I think he makes some good points.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 30, 2015, 10:21:53 pm
The Bulls are 0-7 from the foul line so far against Phoenix. At least I can laugh if not be entertained.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 30, 2015, 10:45:03 pm
Reinsdorf should be looking at replacing Paxson and Forman.

Bulls are getting their heads kicked in again at halftime. On pace to give up 110 points.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: brjones on January 30, 2015, 11:03:17 pm
Three weeks ago, basketball was irrelevant to me...I had watched about 3 NBA games in my life. 

But I live in Atlanta, so I'm now a fair weather Hawks fan.  Go Hawks, they're unstoppable. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 31, 2015, 12:02:33 am
Suns win. The Bulls are a broken team.

The defense is garbage, they can't grab loose balls, they miss more underneath shots then I have ever seen. The only bench player worth anything is Brooks. the rest of them suck, including Gibson who looks like he's never played the game before.

Looks like the Cav's will have no problem taking the division. Bulls have blown a 7-game lead. This team is done.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 01, 2015, 10:16:50 am
There just might be something to this analysis of the Bulls' problems:

http://www.blogabull.com/2015/1/31/7956711/signing-pau-gasol-was-a-mistake

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on February 01, 2015, 09:22:38 pm
That may have been the worst play call in the history of the Super Bowl. Historically bad!  You have Lynch and 1 yard to go with a timeout.  Pound it in there!  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 01, 2015, 09:24:17 pm
I'm heart broken.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 01, 2015, 09:49:46 pm
I thought you were a 49er fan like me P2?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 01, 2015, 10:12:50 pm
That may have been the worst play call in the history of the Super Bowl. Historically bad!  You have Lynch and 1 yard to go with a timeout.  Pound it in there!  Unbelievable.

Yeah, you give the ball the Lynch three times, and if he somehow can't pick up one yard, you tip your hat to the Patriots and move on with your life. 

I kind of have to admit, though, I'm not sure the Seattle OC is going to deserve the Steve Bartman/Doug Denkinger type treatment he's about to have coming to him, so in that respect, I feel kind of sorry for him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on February 01, 2015, 10:23:30 pm
Couldn't happen to a nicer group of guys.

The crotch grabber and the ball pooper can go away now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 02, 2015, 03:36:23 am
First thing I thought after that pick was that Seattle had Cubbed the game away.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 02, 2015, 07:46:11 am
That was sarcasm, Jiggs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on February 02, 2015, 07:55:13 am
Quote from: Bleacher Nation
How’d the Super Bowl treat you? With the bases loaded, one out, and down by one in the 9th, Pete Carroll had Miguel Cabrera coming to the plate. And then he pinch hit with Yoenis Cespedes for some reason. I mean, Cespedes is a fine player, but he grounded into a double play to end the game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 02, 2015, 09:12:25 am
Couldn't happen to a nicer group of guys.

The crotch grabber and the ball pooper can go away now.

Yeah I can't say I was too sorry to see them lose, even though I guess I was pulling for them against Brady/Belichick.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 04, 2015, 04:09:23 pm
Boy the Big Orange cleaned house on the recruiting trail today with their 2nd straight top 5 class and even stole one from Dave's Ole Miss Rebels.

Looks like brighter days are ahead in Knoxville too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 04, 2015, 05:31:30 pm
Some pretty good perspective from former 2 star recruit J.J. Watt ....

Quote
JJ Watt        ✔ @JJWatt
Follow

Annual reminder that it's not all about how many stars you have or how many cameras show up at your signing. It's what you do next.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 04, 2015, 09:00:59 pm
Bulls are ****

They aren't even watchable anymore. Kind of like the Cubs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 04, 2015, 09:06:19 pm
Rose is 2-9 from 3pt range.

Noah is 0-8.

Gasol is 3-8.

Hinrich is 1-5. Time to find another option there.

Nikola Mirotic is 1-8. Remember when he was just ok?

At this rate they'll finish behind the Bucks in the standings. Either way they wont go far in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on February 05, 2015, 01:35:18 pm
Any other team would be considering trades to shake up the team.  The Bulls front office will stand pat and insist that getting Dunleavy back is the answer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on February 05, 2015, 02:01:20 pm
Meanwhile, the Blackhawks are floundering as much as the Bulls. I'm guessing Stan Bowman will try to make a deal for a defenseman, but salary cap stuff makes it tough.

(Agree, Robb, on Pax/Gar maintaining status quo).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 05, 2015, 04:10:03 pm
The Blackhawks have hit a lull, but they aren't underperforming to nearly the extent that the Bulls are.  It'll be interesting to see how the 'Hawks handle the upcoming back to back against the Jets and Blues.  I expect them to play very well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 05, 2015, 05:31:08 pm
What P2 said
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 05, 2015, 06:15:05 pm
The Blackhawks have been basically a .500 team over the last three weeks. Thanks to the NHL's new playoff format they'll likely have to beat both the Blues and Preds just to get to the conference finals. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 08, 2015, 07:10:58 pm
The Bulls just lost to the 16-37 Magic for the second time this season.

A game in which they had a 16-pt lead after one quarter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 08, 2015, 07:14:38 pm
The B'Hawks responded well this weekend, as I anticipated.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 08, 2015, 07:20:55 pm
Actually, the Bulls somehow have a chance to win it. They were dead in the water a minute ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 08, 2015, 07:23:02 pm
They take the lead after a Gasol putback dunk. Got a chance for utter thievery.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 08, 2015, 07:23:35 pm
Well I'll be damned.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 08, 2015, 07:24:13 pm
Bulls get lucky tonight. Somehow they outscore Orlando 7-0 with about 30 seconds left and snatch a victory.

Two in a row!.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 08, 2015, 07:46:22 pm
Looks like Orlando had to really work hard to give that one away.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 08, 2015, 07:56:39 pm
Clear path foul, and over-and-back violation helped.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 08, 2015, 08:13:47 pm
Not boxing out Gasol was also a little factor.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 10, 2015, 04:27:33 am
The Blackhawks found a new and interesting way to lose last night, scoring in OT and still losing. Hard to manage that, but they did.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 10, 2015, 11:30:04 am
Disallowed goal was tough ,1st period was pretty underwhelming , Kane's dumb ass penalty gave me fits, and not using Hossa in SO was questionable....with 7 more home ice games to go and I expect better results...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 10, 2015, 01:58:27 pm
That said, the Hawks really didn't play poorly last night.  Smith was awesome.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 10, 2015, 07:20:26 pm
Smith played a helluva game agreed, still Hawks could have played better on the power play opportunities. ..wonder when Versteeg comes back?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 10, 2015, 09:14:12 pm
I read that he might be back tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 10, 2015, 09:19:37 pm
The Bulls got Dunleavy back tonight and then lost Butler. In other words, a day that ends in y.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on February 11, 2015, 07:46:08 am
Is anyone suprised that Chicago cheated in the LLWS? It got stripped of it's US Championship today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 11, 2015, 07:54:34 am
Is anyone suprised that Chicago cheated in the LLWS? It got stripped of it's US Championship today.
Yes
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 11, 2015, 07:58:28 am
What is LLWS?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 11, 2015, 08:01:23 am
Little league world series...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on February 11, 2015, 08:05:40 am
We've had youth football teams disqualified here for similar cheating tactics - its not the kids instigating these scenarios
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 11, 2015, 08:28:49 am
Spot on Bear...adults ruining the kids game
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 11, 2015, 09:19:30 am
I'm surprised that the adults who are vicariously living through the kids and whose egos put the accomplishments  of the kids at risk. I feel srry for the kids who are probably bewildered about now and disillusioned.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 11, 2015, 09:20:18 am
Looks like Bear beat me to it
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 11, 2015, 09:33:01 am
I don't know Chicago youth sports all that well, but how exactly did Jackie Robinson West poach players from surrounding Little Leagues?  I get it that they can't just take whatever players they want in the entire city, and I'm sure Chicago is probably home to several Little League leagues and territories.  But what exactly made their recruiting so egregious that they'd strip the title from them? 

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I'm surprised that the adults who are vicariously living through the kids and whose egos put the accomplishments  of the kids at risk. I feel srry for the kids who are probably bewildered about now and disillusioned.

I guess one thing I have to admit too is when I first read the story about Las Vegas challenging Chicago's championship (comparing them to Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds in the process . . . seriously?) was that it sounded like a bunch of sore loser, overzealous, over-competitive little league parents from Las Vegas who were also living vicariously through their kids. 

This situation just stinks to me all around.  I really hate it for the kids from Chicago.  At least they got to meet the President and had a few moments to feel on top of the world.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 11, 2015, 09:40:20 am
The moved the boarders of their little league to get their better players.  They didn't talk to the other  little leagues around them to approve the change in their boarders. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 11, 2015, 09:50:06 am
Yeah I get that part.  I guess I'm just curious how far they extended the borders.  If they extended them, say a handful of miles outside their normal territory for instance, I wish they could have come up with a different punishment besides stripping them of the title.  (Like banning their coaches or league administrators from having anything to do with Little League again.)

If they decided to do something like just make the whole city of Chicago their territory, I can see that as pretty egregious cheating. 

Perhaps I'm also just a little dismayed to see those Las Vegas people get what they want out of this.  If the Chicago team cheated by going a couple of miles outside their territory, I just can't really sympathize with the Las Vegas parents putting all the time and energy into uncovering all of that and taking something away from the Chicago kids. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 11, 2015, 11:05:25 am
Here's a plan: let the kids keep their championship, ban the adults.   
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 11, 2015, 12:32:24 pm
https://instagram.com/p/vExl2WtNIf/embed/captioned/?v=4 (https://instagram.com/p/vExl2WtNIf/embed/captioned/?v=4)

They took it away for that?  Heck, I'm from outside the boundaries too and I kept my job!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 11, 2015, 12:54:38 pm
I coached little league for a few years and ran the league one year and as dumb as it may be they dont play when it comes to that.

Travel baseball has killed LLs numbers but the draw for a kid to make it to the LLWS is still strong enough that cheating does happen.

With that said those Chicago kids and everyone who watched it knows who won regardless of what the records may say.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 11, 2015, 02:43:25 pm
Yeah I get that part.  I guess I'm just curious how far they extended the borders.  If they extended them, say a handful of miles outside their normal territory for instance, I wish they could have come up with a different punishment besides stripping them of the title.  (Like banning their coaches or league administrators from having anything to do with Little League again.)

If they decided to do something like just make the whole city of Chicago their territory, I can see that as pretty egregious cheating. 

Perhaps I'm also just a little dismayed to see those Las Vegas people get what they want out of this.  If the Chicago team cheated by going a couple of miles outside their territory, I just can't really sympathize with the Las Vegas parents putting all the time and energy into uncovering all of that and taking something away from the Chicago kids. 

I think it was only a few miles, but that was where some of their best players came from.  It would be like the Cubs taking Sale, Samardzija, Rodon from the White Sox and just saying tough luck.  Yes, the parents are too blame for this and the kids "losing" their title hurts the kids.  It also sucks for the Vegas kids to not get the experience of playing in the LLWS becasue they played by the rules. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 11, 2015, 02:50:17 pm
"I think it was only a few miles, but that was where some of their best players came from.  It would be like the Cubs taking Sale, Samardzija, Rodon from the White Sox and just saying tough luck."

Now there's an idea to pursue!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 11, 2015, 03:54:36 pm
Mark Mulder tweeted earlier that JRW has been bending the rules since he played against them in his youth.

Shame for the kids...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 11, 2015, 04:03:47 pm
Not really.

They got to be on ESPN and got to live a dream that they might not have been able to otherwise.

The parents and the kids all know what kids are in their league and which ones arent and they sure didnt make a fuss.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on February 11, 2015, 04:08:46 pm
Cuz their 15 minutes of fame is certainly more rewarding than doing the right thing - that's way too old school
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 11, 2015, 04:11:43 pm
Mark Mulder tweeted earlier that JRW has been bending the rules since he played against them in his youth.

Shame for the kids...

Yep.  Too bad nobody took their cheating seriously until just now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 11, 2015, 08:26:25 pm
Hawks are playing lifeless, sloppy hockey at present losing to Canucks 2-1,Kane scored #29 early in 2nd
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 11, 2015, 08:45:18 pm
Hawks have been average for more than a month.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 11, 2015, 09:02:11 pm
Damb! 3-1 Canucks going into 3rd...home ice not so friendly...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 11, 2015, 09:57:00 pm
Furious 3rd period comeback by Hawks ties game 4-4...Canucks win in ot 5-4...Hossa scores 2 tonight giving him 6 in 3 games! Serious regrouping has to take place. Ugh!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on February 12, 2015, 06:25:38 am
Poor kids from Chicago?

I say Poor kids from Vegas.  They got cheated out of a chance of playing for the World Title.  They got cheated out of chance to meet the Prez.  They got cheated out of trips to DC.

The administrators, coaches and parents of the Chicago team are shameless.  They knew what they were doing was wrong and they did it anyway.

I think they are just disgusting.  I also find it apalling that some people defend it.  "Oh it was only stretching the limits by a few miles.  They shouldn't be punished for that.  Who cares if the footballs were deflated it had no outcome on the game."  Rules are rules.  They are made for reasons.  You break them you not only hurt your team but you take away from others and damage the game.

**Climbing down off my soapbox now**
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on February 12, 2015, 06:40:35 am
It seems only one poster is not really bothered at all by the Little League team that cheating.  Not surprising.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 12, 2015, 06:46:22 am
"They got cheated out of chance to meet the Prez."

Why are you listing perks with the downers?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on February 12, 2015, 08:06:28 am
You know the media wanted Mone' Davis' team to go all the way
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on February 12, 2015, 09:01:47 am
"They got cheated out of chance to meet the Prez."

Why are you listing perks with the downers?

Yeah.  I almost put a disclaimer with that one.  No matter who holds the office though, it's still cool to meet the President of the United States of America..
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on February 12, 2015, 08:24:43 pm
Blackhawks seem to be in "throw sh*t at the wall and see what will stick mode," as they sent down Teravainin and brought up 2013 first round pick Ryan Hartman, who I sense is like Andrew Shaw. From just after he was drafted: "Hartman is a do-it-all type player who can provide significant two-way value despite being a tad undersized, at around 5'11". He is smart, and he makes creative plays in both puck handling and passing. He is a very aware defensive player...This S.O.B. is one miserable [player] to play against! Industrial strength abrasive and is always disturbing the peace--usually after the whistle--and gets opponents off their game and under their skin." (taken from two different reports that I combined)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on February 12, 2015, 09:30:37 pm
These nights when Rose plays like he played tonight are, at the very least, a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 12, 2015, 09:58:44 pm
They just whooped the Cavs but we all need to remember how shitty they are.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 12, 2015, 10:38:12 pm
The Bulls beat Cleveland for the first time in three tries, yet are 9-10 over their last 19 games, and that would be worse had Orlando not handed them a win on Sunday.

Jiggs is apparently so happy with that trend that he boats every time they win now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on February 12, 2015, 11:17:08 pm
Jiggs owns a boat?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 12, 2015, 11:31:14 pm
Nope.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 12, 2015, 11:37:56 pm
Sorta well played.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on February 13, 2015, 12:42:00 am
Poor kids from Chicago?

I say Poor kids from Vegas.


....and the poor kids from the Tri-Cities Little League from West Dundee, IL who lost the championship game of the Illinois State Tournament to JRW and were deprived of their chance to compete in the Great Lakes Region;

....and the kids from New Albany, Indiana who lost the championship game of the Great Lakes Region and didn't get their deserved chance to compete in the Little League Tournament in Williamsport, PA. 

There's also the kids from Rosemoor LL, the 2nd place team from IL District 4, who didn't get to compete the IL Section 3 Tournament

....and the IL Section 3 Tournament runner-up, Lansing (IL) LL,  who didn't get their deserved chance to compete in the Illinois State Tournament. 

All because the adults associated with JRW cheated (especially their League President & League Player Agent who are both responsible for making sure the players lived within their approved league boundaries and are required to sign a legal document to that effect) with the help from their IL District 4 Administrator who has long time ties to the JRW program.  The District Administrator also signs off that they have verified all of the residency documentation is accurate.

As someone who spent 10 years involved with Little League® as both a local board member and a District board member,  I quickly found that the worst thing about youth sports is the adults who try to manipulate the system to their own benefit.

Little League® official press release:   http://www.littleleague.org/media/llnewsarchive/2015/January-April/little-league-jrw-ruling.htm (http://www.littleleague.org/media/llnewsarchive/2015/January-April/little-league-jrw-ruling.htm)



Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 13, 2015, 01:58:29 am
Little league parents are un fn believable to deal with.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 13, 2015, 07:35:15 am
Chris, would you care to comment on the quality of Rose's game last night?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 13, 2015, 04:03:45 pm
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Chris, would you care to comment on the quality of Rose's game last night?

I only saw a small portion of the game but apparently he looked very good. He's had good games this year but they've been interspersed with poor ones. Certainly, he looks better than he did in December.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 13, 2015, 06:29:37 pm
Rose was fantastic.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 13, 2015, 07:37:12 pm
I'm intrigued and cautiously excited about Tony Snell's recent play.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 14, 2015, 11:52:34 am
Losing streak snapped...Hossa (of course) ties game at 1 in 3rd period, then he assists Toews for the go ahead/winner, Versteeg gets an empty netter...3-1 victory 'Hawks...again the first 2 periods just mediocre...young Ryan Hartman was  very impressive in his debut, in his first 6 seconds of his 1st shift he crushes Zubrus in Devils end, then Zidlicky against boards seconds later, pretty frickin impressive, cool kid good awareness, plus lots of energy...good night all in all
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 15, 2015, 04:13:03 pm
'Hawks beat the Penguins 2-1 shootout...Crawford was strong in goal....Toews, Kane, Sharp winn I ng shooters in OT
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on February 15, 2015, 09:21:47 pm
Kane's shootout goal made me laugh out loud.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 16, 2015, 03:25:01 pm
 Lol,Kane is just sick with the stick....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 20, 2015, 08:59:00 pm
Bulls start the second half with a loss to a bad Detroit team. Rose took just 9 shots; 8 points, 6 TO's.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 20, 2015, 08:59:33 pm
The Pistons just beat the Bulls pretty easily.

Mike Dunleavy who is so important was 0-5 with  a whopping 0 points.

MVP was 2-9 with 8 points.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 20, 2015, 09:57:05 pm
Oh and the Blackhawks are awful too. Another bad loss at home to a horrible team that got clobbered last night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 21, 2015, 07:59:14 am
Oh and the Blackhawks are awful too. Another bad loss at home to a horrible team that got clobbered last night.
absolutely correct chris
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 21, 2015, 10:26:28 am
I'm starting to worry a bit about the B'Hawks.  I'm hoping that they're just in a bit of a lull since it really doesn't matter that much what seed they end up with.  They will be difficult to oust in a 7 game series against anyone.  The Bulls are a different issue since home court advantage is so important in the playoffs (even as bad as they have been at home).  They will have to ramp up their play and consistency to make it out of the 2nd round.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on February 21, 2015, 11:53:41 am
Hard to argue that the BHawks are elite right now. I did see a stat where each of the last 3 January-February periods have seen the Hawks below .500 and seeming to go through the motions. But they are older, and their defense is shaky and hard to see them just "flip a switch" come playoff time.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 21, 2015, 02:47:38 pm
'Hawks PP is just not where it needs to be especially with entry at the blue line, stop trying to be fancy with their passes, pucks on the net!





Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 23, 2015, 10:56:43 am
2-2-3 on this homestand, below average defensive play, personnel moves to and from Rockford,inconsistent offensive firepower really have the Blackhawks reeling...maybe get a greasy win against Panthers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on February 23, 2015, 11:39:41 am
They look horrible but I still think it will be hard for anyone to beat them 4 out of 7.  I predict they will be in the final if they get past St. Louis. That team scares me the most in the west.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 23, 2015, 04:45:49 pm
The way the NHL now has the format set up, the Hawks will likely have to beat the Blues and Preds just to reach the conference finals. Good luck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 09:44:57 pm
BREAKING NEWS: Derrick Rose has torn his meniscus in his right knee.

Season over
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 24, 2015, 09:47:29 pm
Good Lord.

Retire already.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 09:51:00 pm
He doesn't do it on purpose,  but it's time for the Bulls to cut their losses and move on.

No sense in even watching now them now. Cleveland has the division wrapped up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 09:58:42 pm
Now Kane has left the Hawks game due to injury.

How long will Lester last? 3 games?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 24, 2015, 10:00:08 pm
If we're lucky ...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 10:00:22 pm
and the Hawks give up a late goal

Chicago sports can rot in hell.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 24, 2015, 10:07:52 pm
No big deal if the Hawks can salvage 2 points.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 24, 2015, 10:16:07 pm
I have zero clue how much of the NBA season is left, but didn't McDermott come back from the same injury in 6-8 weeks?

Edit:  It likely depends on how bad the tear is.  If it is a mild tear they can just trim up the tear.  If it is a complete tear they have to remove the entire meniscus or a large portion of it. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 10:17:35 pm
They have about 25 games left or so.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 10:18:09 pm
Hawks win in the shootout.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 24, 2015, 10:22:21 pm
This whole sports town is one big disaster.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 24, 2015, 10:25:32 pm
Except for the Cubs, White Sox, Blackhawks, and Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 10:54:13 pm
This is the same injury he had back in November of 2013.

He's done.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 24, 2015, 11:11:32 pm
I agree.

We lost Jay Williams to unusual circumstances and we're gonna suffer the same fate with D Rose.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 11:29:16 pm
The news on Kane doesn't sound good.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 11:37:18 pm
Chicago Tribune: The injury to Kane does not look good.

Chicago Sports Talk: Patrick Kane suffered a potentially awful injury.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on February 25, 2015, 06:15:14 am
The annual Derrick Rose injury has arrived, is it that time of year already?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 25, 2015, 08:21:22 am
From the Trib:

"A source said Rose was told after (the previous) surgery that a second tear could happen and typically those are treated by cutting or removing the damage. That generally involves a shorter rehabilitation of three to six weeks."

It's hard to imagine Rose being back for the playoffs, but it does suggest that he might be ready next Fall.  It'll be interesting to see how the team responds to his absence.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 25, 2015, 08:23:50 am
As for Kane, I'll be satisfied if he is healthy come playoff time.  The team is going to finish with a middle seed, and Kane's loss doesn't matter a whole lot in that regard.  But they will need him big time for the postseason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 25, 2015, 03:13:58 pm
Kane expected to miss 6-10 weeks. Playoffs start in 6.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 25, 2015, 04:49:14 pm
Sounds like a broken collar bone
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 25, 2015, 05:56:34 pm
Blackhawks‬ announce Patrick Kane will miss 3 months after surgery for a broken left clavicle.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 25, 2015, 07:41:37 pm
12 weeks! Damn...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 27, 2015, 11:00:19 pm
Who is this moron posting at ESPN?

Justin Riddick · Top Commenter ·
Titans, please don't be stupid. Draft Mariota if he's there. Thank you.
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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 28, 2015, 09:16:05 am
Who is this moron posting at ESPN?

Justin Riddick · Top Commenter ·
Titans, please don't be stupid. Draft Mariota if he's there. Thank you.
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Ha!  Yeah the thing I don't understand is you need a QB to win in the NFL, and a guy like Mariota, who has all the tools and all of the intangibles you look for in a QB, sounds like he'll wind up falling in the Titans' lap if they want him.  And it sounds more and more like they're not going to take him. 

My gut feeling is the Titans are going to trade down and stock up on picks so their crack scouting staff can draft more terrible players like Bishop Sankey, Justin Hunter, and Blidi Wreh-Wilson.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on February 28, 2015, 12:27:07 pm
Maybe they like Zach Mettenberger better.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 28, 2015, 02:54:08 pm
I think Mettenberger has potential.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 28, 2015, 05:17:09 pm
Definitely...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on February 28, 2015, 10:28:40 pm
Stan Bowman, and the Blackhawks, have signaled that aren't giving up in the wake of Kane's injury. I like it -- Kimmo and Vermette are pretty strong trade deadline additions to a team that's going for it. With the cap, they are going to have to shed some guys prior to next year, so as a fan I appreciate them going for it now, long-shot though it may be without Kane.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 01, 2015, 12:01:05 am
Who in the world doesnt find Ronda Rousey so attractive that you could just maul her?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 01, 2015, 11:45:35 am
I can get the Mettenberger love a little bit, but still it's not like he was that great last year and there's a reason he went in the 6th round. 

QB's just the one position you really need to get right, and when a guy like Mariota is available, I don't see why you'd want to put all of your eggs in the Mettenberger basket.

JMHO.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 01, 2015, 11:46:26 am
Who in the world doesnt find Ronda Rousey so attractive that you could just maul her?

I think for the majority of people here, it would be Ronda Rousey who would be doing most of the mauling.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 01, 2015, 11:51:53 am
LMAO
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on March 01, 2015, 12:10:22 pm
I think for the majority of people here, it would be Ronda Rousey who would be doing most of the mauling.
LMAO
Dusty wouldn't mind.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on March 02, 2015, 05:18:51 pm
Jimmy Butler out 3-6 weeks.

Now we can call it a season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on March 03, 2015, 01:17:37 pm
noticed yesterday that the starting lineup of Pao-Joakim-Butler-Rose-Dunleavey have only played together 20 times this year...Bulls record in those games 15-5
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on March 06, 2015, 07:04:20 am
Great come from behind win by the Bulls.  Who would have thought Mirotic and Moore would be the stars?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on March 06, 2015, 08:24:34 pm
Not tonight. Indiana beat their heads in
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 06, 2015, 08:28:00 pm
NBA needs to pare down the schedule and drastically reduce the number of back to backs.  The NBA schedule is brutal, and it's clearly taking a toll on players around the league.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 06, 2015, 10:11:35 pm
At least the Bulls have the excuse of injuries. The Blackhawks are on the verge of falling to fourth in their own division.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 07, 2015, 12:07:29 am
I thought they picked up 2 points tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 07, 2015, 04:34:10 am
Yep, they did. Got completely outplayed and gave up 48 shots at home to an awful Oilers squad, but they did eek out a shootout win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on March 07, 2015, 11:44:10 am
On the plus side for the Hawks - Preds are 3-6-1 over last 10.  They are only 2 pts from 2nd and 6 from 1st.

I certainly don't have the confidence I did in them at the beginning of the season.  But hopefully they peak at the playoffs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on March 08, 2015, 12:55:54 pm
Bulls may lose by 20 or more today at San Antonio.


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 08, 2015, 09:07:39 pm
Blackhawks get shut out at home by the Rangers. They have scored 19 goals over their last 11 games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 08, 2015, 10:50:08 pm
They still eked out a point, and the Rangers are very good.  I'm not so worried about the B'Hawks.  Yet.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on March 09, 2015, 01:09:19 pm
The Hawks Powerplay is AWFUL....they have got to get with it
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 13, 2015, 08:14:31 pm
Bulls getting blown out by Charlotte.  Truly sad.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on March 13, 2015, 08:17:49 pm
Sad but not shocking.

Bulls and Blackhawks should be out early in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on March 18, 2015, 09:48:44 pm
Blackhawks and backup goalie Scott Darling shut-out the Rangers in NYC a night after thumping a surprisingly good Islanders team in Chicago. Since Kane went out the Hawks are something like 9-1-1, and are either tied are just behind the predators, despite playing 2-fewer games than the Preds.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 18, 2015, 10:34:20 pm
They're two behind Nashville who have all the tiebreaks, so essentially three behind.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 19, 2015, 09:41:41 pm
How did this kid not become a Cub?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/basketball/67458936/F-what-a-great-name-for-a-basketball-player
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 19, 2015, 10:43:47 pm
LMAO
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 21, 2015, 08:31:20 pm
Just when the Hawks and Bulls seem to be gaining momentum, .......................
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on March 21, 2015, 08:37:30 pm
no sense in worrying about them, especially the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 26, 2015, 07:28:30 pm
For Bulls fans:

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/3/26/8284937/nikola-mirotic-chicago-bulls-highlights-awkward-tom-thibodeau
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on March 28, 2015, 08:53:39 pm
Bulls up 34 in the 4th quarter and still no McDermott, Moore, Mohammed, or Bairstow.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 28, 2015, 10:38:51 pm
McDermott is hurt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 29, 2015, 03:10:30 am
Mirotic seems to be the real deal. Butler is starting to look like his pre-injury self too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 04, 2015, 10:23:46 pm
Hmmm...I was pulling for Wisconsin, but it was weird hearing the announcers pulling for them too.  Lots of criticism of the officiating tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 04, 2015, 10:33:54 pm
Hmmm...I was pulling for Wisconsin, but it was weird hearing the announcers pulling for them too.  Lots of criticism of the officiating tonight.

There is a reason for it as there were three different announcing crews doing the game.  TruTv had the Wisconsin-biased announcers.  TNT has the Kentucky-biased announcers.  TBS was the 'national' neutral broadcast.


(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/otherstuff/WISvsKEN.04042015FINAL_zps0udput84.png)


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 04, 2015, 10:36:38 pm
Ah, I didn't know that.  Yes, I was on Tru.  Makes sense now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: craig on April 04, 2015, 11:12:00 pm
Go Badgers! 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 05, 2015, 12:00:52 am
Gotta love seeing the MildCats go down.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 05, 2015, 12:30:35 am
Gotta love seeing the MildCats go down.


I bet you loved this too DUSTY.  Dave23 probably didn't.     ;D


(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/otherstuff/TENMIS.04042015FINAL_zpskkm5igc8.png)





Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 05, 2015, 03:17:44 am
Yep.

UT has been awful disappointing this season though.

We were supposed to be good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on April 05, 2015, 09:21:57 am
Both teams are pretty blah...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 05, 2015, 12:16:38 pm
Go Badgers! 
Craig, you know Dekker is from Sheboygan Lutheran, was his dad, Todd, one of your contemporaries at Christian?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 05, 2015, 02:25:58 pm

College baseball is on right now on ESPN-U.  Casey Clemens, son of Roger, is pitching for Texas vs. Oklahoma State.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 05, 2015, 02:29:04 pm
Thirty seconds after I posted the above, Texas makes a pitching change with one out in the bottom of the 4th.  Texas is losing to Oklahoma State 4-2. OK State going for the weekend sweep.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: craig on April 05, 2015, 02:57:25 pm
Craig, you know Dekker is from Sheboygan Lutheran, was his dad, Todd, one of your contemporaries at Christian?

Hi, Curt.  Sam Dekker's Dad (Todd Dekker) went to Sheboygan Christian grade school (grades 1-8) and was in my oldest brother's class.  Family went to my church, I know well.  That was about three years before Sheboygan Christian was founded. 

Todd's cousins were a grade ahead of me and behind at Sheboygan Christian, both grade school and high school.  So every year from little league through high school either one or the other of the Dekker cousins was on my basketball and baseball teams. 

Sam has really improved a lot.  His jump shot is kind of unstable, and has an uncommon amount of arch on it.  So I wonder if he goes NBA, if he'll be out of the league in three years.  But many he's picks a good time to be out of his mind on his shooting. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 05, 2015, 03:17:53 pm
Cool...figured you might be close to his age.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chiman on April 05, 2015, 05:34:24 pm

Curt, you know Moses is from Mount Sanai Christian Academy, was his dad, Amram, one of your contemporaries back in the day?   😁
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 05, 2015, 05:52:50 pm
No, he lived over on Pharoah's Court.  My folks lived on Grovelers Lane.  He was a class behind me at Pyramid High.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chiman on April 05, 2015, 06:10:02 pm
Sorry, I couldn't resist
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 06, 2015, 08:20:21 pm

If there is anyone here that wants to watch the NCAA Men's D1 Basketball Championship game and doesn't have access to a TV, the live feed can be found at:

http://www.ncaa.com/march-madness-live/game/701?hpt=mml_intbrack_pop_live&iid=mml2015_bracket_popup (http://www.ncaa.com/march-madness-live/game/701?hpt=mml_intbrack_pop_live&iid=mml2015_bracket_popup)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 10, 2015, 12:39:19 pm
Jordan Spieth looks like he's just going nuts at the Masters so far.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 10, 2015, 01:57:11 pm
It's really too bad he blew it on the 15th yesterday, he could have beaten the record for a low round in a major.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on April 12, 2015, 08:40:16 pm
"Rinne finished the season first in the NHL (minimum 25 starts) with a .721 quality start percentage, and Crawford was third with a .696 percentage. Minnesota Wild netminder Devan Dubnyk was second with a .698 percentage."

I didn't realize Craw had played that well.  Man I hope the Hawks can get past the Preds while Kane comes back.  So then they can hopefully make some noise.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 13, 2015, 09:19:50 am
All of the potential first-round match ups for the BHawks were going to be tough, but with the way the Preds stumbled down the stretch of the regular season they seem slightly less-scary the Blues or Wild. Slightly.

By the way, if Kane comes back for game 1, there will be complaints that the Hawks conveniently put him on long-term IR during the regular season so that they had cap space for Vermette and Timonen. It hadn't occurred to me that this conspiracy was out there until I ran into some Wild fans at a family wedding over the weekend and they brought it up.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on April 13, 2015, 01:11:33 pm
Hawks and Preds will be a fantastic series...Hawks in 7 games
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 13, 2015, 01:38:21 pm
Nah, Preds in 4 games.  :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 13, 2015, 01:42:17 pm
Neither outcome would be surprising. Looks like Kane will be back miraculously early. Cool.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 13, 2015, 11:23:03 pm
Ah, yes, Husker pride   http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12685376/lawrence-phillips-former-nfl-running-back-suspected-killing-prison-cellmate

I think Tom Osborne wants a do-over on this one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 14, 2015, 12:57:28 am
Damn.

That's really all you can say.

I watch Lockup on MSNBC damn near daily and usually when that happens its a you or them thing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on April 14, 2015, 09:00:50 am
Ah, yes, Husker pride   http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12685376/lawrence-phillips-former-nfl-running-back-suspected-killing-prison-cellmate

I think Tom Osborne wants a do-over on this one.

I doubt it.   Phillips was hardly the only scumbag that Osborne kept on the team despite committing pretty bad crimes - sexual assault, attempted murder, assault with a weapon, etc. And in one of the cases, Osborne himself hid the gun that one of his players shot as the police were actively investigating the case.  Winning was clearly the top priority which doesn't make him any different than the rest of his peers. If only he hadn't been such a hypocritical piece of ****. If you are going to go all out to win, just own it. Don't pretend like you are some paragon of virtue and your players are choirboys when it's so obviously not true.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 15, 2015, 10:18:33 am
Hernandez is found guilty.  Wonder if he'll still be a tight end in prison.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 15, 2015, 11:27:41 am
He better be.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on April 15, 2015, 01:10:37 pm
jes must have been his defense atty...oh wait, he can't do that!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 15, 2015, 01:12:20 pm
Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 15, 2015, 03:13:20 pm
I'm just amazed that someone like Hernandez would do something like that with all that he had going for him, and he had the kind of gall that made him think he'd get away with murder. 

By the way, Lester Munson posted a good article detailing the good work the prosecution did in obtaining the guilty verdict.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/12696042/aaron-hernandez-prosecutors-score-enormous-triumph-murder-conviction
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 15, 2015, 04:53:57 pm
The guy is a thug.  He's been one for some time.  A smug thug.  His arrogance permeated the courtroom.  He practically convicted himself with his demeanor.

I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on tv, but I was "shocked" that his lawyer pulled the argument out of his a$$ in summation that Hernandez was present when Odin was killed but didn't actually do the killing.  I know that was to introduce doubt, but, if I was a juror, my take would have been, this thug belongs in prison for life.

I'm a little surprised, JR, that they haven't blamed the NFL for brain damage.  Maybe that will be the appeal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 15, 2015, 05:01:15 pm
Good article
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 15, 2015, 05:20:50 pm
Wasnt the word that he's involved in another murder too?

That's a Florida Gator for you.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 15, 2015, 05:48:45 pm
I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on tv, but I was "shocked" that his lawyer pulled the argument out of his a$$ in summation that Hernandez was present when Odin was killed but didn't actually do the killing.  I know that was to introduce doubt, but, if I was a juror, my take would have been, this thug belongs in prison for life.

Yeah the jurors said exactly that after the trial.

http://deadspin.com/jurors-say-aaron-hernandezs-defense-was-baffling-1697994540

Actually after reading that article, I kind of borderline wonder if Hernandez's lawyers didn't want to see him get away with it either.  I know that's not what a lawyer professionally should be doing, but still . . .
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 15, 2015, 05:58:39 pm
Yeah, I saw that in the article, JR.  I am SO smart I said it before reading the article.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 15, 2015, 06:41:57 pm
Unlike Jacey, I still have a lot of respect for Jes' legal take on things.  If he comments on this let me know.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 15, 2015, 07:28:10 pm
Glad he was convicted. he'll now stand trial for a double murder committed earlier. Just confess Aaron and safe the spectacle and costs. Regarding the defense admitting he was there etc, an attorney posted a comment to the deadspin thread that makes some sense:

"I think the defense had to concede he was there, because if he wasn’t, it meant that the was the most unlucky motherf*cker in the history of the universe. All evidence pointed to the fact that he was there, and if he wasn’t and he didn’t have anything to do with it at ALL, you’re left with no explanation as to why he got rid of a gun, got rid of a pair of sweet Air Jordans, and other important evidence. The only explanation that doesn’t put him directly in the soup is “he was there but he had no idea it was going to happen, was shocked when it did, and afterward tried to help out his friends”. That’s a crime, but it ain’t murder, and had the jury wanted to believe it they could have."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 15, 2015, 08:26:22 pm
Blackhawks getting trashed, so are the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 15, 2015, 09:17:16 pm
looked like a night both Bulls/BHawks would get thrashed, but after 2 periods Hawks have tied it up, and Bulls are up late.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 15, 2015, 09:24:51 pm
The Hawks sat their starters for much of the 2nd half while Thibs played Butler 40 minutes and Gasol 38. Now the Bulls are on the same side of the playoff bracket as Cleveland.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 15, 2015, 11:26:38 pm
Well that sucked.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 15, 2015, 11:28:28 pm
Well that ruled.

Scott Darling, Chicago-area kid. Nice!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on April 16, 2015, 01:12:53 pm
Unlike Jacey, I still have a lot of respect for Jes' legal take on things.  If he comments on this let me know.
Its not that I don't have respect for Jes. I kind of feel sorry for him
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 16, 2015, 02:58:43 pm
I dont.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 17, 2015, 11:17:50 pm
PREDS!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 17, 2015, 11:18:36 pm
Corey Crawford = whole lotta suck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 17, 2015, 11:33:51 pm
The Blackhawks have been a mediocre team for three months, really much of the past two seasons. Crawford might have been bad tonight but the team has been outplayed the majority of the series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 19, 2015, 05:08:07 pm
Meh.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 19, 2015, 05:21:15 pm
Impressive third period by the B'Hawks.  They made very few mistakes.  If they can sustain that level of play, they will be tough for any team to beat.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 19, 2015, 05:32:25 pm
It helps that Weber is out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 20, 2015, 02:29:59 pm
Per the score Doug Buffone has died
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 20, 2015, 03:01:25 pm
Who's that?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on April 20, 2015, 03:29:33 pm
Former Bears LB and I believe was a radio guy with the Score.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 20, 2015, 03:42:01 pm
Oh.

I didnt mean any disrespect.

I may be a Bulls and Cubs fan but Im a 49ers fan in football.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on April 20, 2015, 04:01:19 pm
I had to look it up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 20, 2015, 04:11:13 pm
If Santo had done a post-game cubs radio show, that's what Buffone was (former star player, who was all heart/passion in terms of radio comments).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on April 20, 2015, 04:33:43 pm
Played LB for years next to Butkus.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 20, 2015, 06:53:50 pm
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/doug-buffone-former-chicago-bears-linebacker-dies-at-70-042015
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 20, 2015, 06:55:41 pm
He was an awesome player and was even better on the radio. He told it like it was and didn't care who thought it was wrong.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 20, 2015, 07:04:45 pm
He was an awesome player and was even better on the radio. He told it like it was and didn't care who thought it was wrong.

There was nothing more entertaining than listening to Doug Buffone & Ed O'Bradovich doing the post-game show after a Bears game. Even after a loss to Green Bay they were great to listen to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osIzg4zyKVM

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 20, 2015, 07:50:25 pm
You just can't and won't replace him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on April 21, 2015, 01:10:39 pm
Bufffone was the epitome of the Bears- gritty even after his playing career was over
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on April 22, 2015, 07:01:54 am
Hawks!

I have more confidence with Darling in net than Crawford for some reason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 22, 2015, 07:41:36 am
Incredible triple-OT 3-2 win last night for the 'Hawks !!!! Darling is the hot goalie at present and coach Q will stick with him this series ...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 22, 2015, 08:54:31 am
My recording ran out before the end of the game.  Great to find out that they won.  Sorry, JR.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 22, 2015, 09:20:59 am
Made it thru 2 OTs, but had to get to bed. If I stayed up 20 minutes longer.....

Wonder how Q will use his guys on Thursday. Does he go for it and try to finish out the series and play his presumably exhausted veteran stars heavy minutes, or does he try to roll 4 lines and 3 defensive pairings all night to save guys and hope to sneak out with a win, but resign himself to maybe coming back to Chicago for a game 6?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 22, 2015, 09:54:59 am
Incredible triple-OT 3-2 win last night for the 'Hawks !!!! Darling is the hot goalie at present and coach Q will stick with him this series ...

Darling was a beast.  He was like an impregnable fortress out there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 22, 2015, 09:55:45 am
My recording ran out before the end of the game.  Great to find out that they won.  Sorry, JR.

You're not feeling sorrier than I am.  I stayed up until 1:30 watching that.  Definitely hurting today, haha.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 22, 2015, 10:04:32 am
It helps being on the West Coast.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 24, 2015, 04:32:12 am
Hawks blew apart last night.

At least the Bulls won.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 25, 2015, 07:25:07 pm
Not sure who was more responsible for that Bulls loss, Rose or the refs. It's a tossup.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on April 25, 2015, 07:38:40 pm
Rose's refusal to pass the ball there was inexcusable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 25, 2015, 07:47:19 pm
Did you think he was going to pass it? He's considered the savior of the franchise. It'd be nice if he didn't run into a crowd of players after dribbling behind his back though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on April 25, 2015, 09:50:12 pm
As every defender on the floor is moving towards him to smother him out, he's got to get rid of the ball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 25, 2015, 09:51:49 pm
Blackhawks top line with an unbelievable, dominating shift results in the go-ahead goal in a game that started out with Nashville dominating them. Hold on, boys.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on April 25, 2015, 10:48:11 pm
Hawks!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 26, 2015, 12:54:12 am
Blah.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 26, 2015, 01:00:51 am
Sorry JR, thought the Preds outplayed the Hawks over the course of the series. They deserved a better fate.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 26, 2015, 01:04:03 am
Sorry JR, thought the Preds outplayed the Hawks over the course of the series. They deserved a better fate.

Hey thanks!  Actually the Preds were probably a little less than brilliant themselves in the series.  Pekka wasn't really on top of his game.  Weber was out.  After the Preds went up 3-1 tonight, they never really seemed to get any good chances after that.

Maybe the Blackhawks aren't quite playing up to the level where they were a couple of years ago, but they're awfully talented.  Gotta tip your hat to them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 26, 2015, 01:09:24 am
I'm probably not enough of a hockey expert to make any really good observations about the series, but the Preds really seemed to catch a lot of bad breaks in the series, with Shea Weber being hurt, Patrick Kane unexpectedly coming back for the Blackhawks, and up until tonight, Scott Darling coming up so big for them. 

For as well as the Preds played for most of the season, having caught the Blackhawks at a time like this in the first round was pretty unlucky.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 26, 2015, 01:43:05 am
Quote
Maybe the Blackhawks aren't quite playing up to the level where they were a couple of years ago, but they're awfully talented.

Eh, they've looked pedestrian to me for months and for huge chunks of last year too. They were ripe to be picked off and a healthy Weber may have been the difference.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: rjzebra on April 26, 2015, 10:04:16 am
JR...you are not the only one here weak on hockey knowledge!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 26, 2015, 01:08:33 pm
I thought it was a great series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 26, 2015, 01:13:59 pm
Preds were very good.  I don't know that there's a dominant team, so the B'Hawks should have a good chance.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 26, 2015, 07:33:43 pm
Exactly, P2. There are no great teams it seems this year, and the Hawks still have a bunch of elite top-end talent that few, if any, teams can match. That being said, Minnesota also has a ton of elite talent.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 26, 2015, 07:35:23 pm
St. Louis Blues are heading home for the summer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 27, 2015, 09:13:18 am
Blackhawks vs Wild should be a tough series for the 'Hawks...Wild have been coming on strong over the last month+...like the 'Hawks taking the series
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on April 27, 2015, 01:07:27 pm
Hawks in six vs Wild
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 27, 2015, 01:24:33 pm
The series could go either way.  Pretty much a toss up in my book.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on April 27, 2015, 09:28:38 pm
Bulls terrible in every phase.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 27, 2015, 09:40:01 pm
Noah and Rose are killing the Bulls.  Just terrible.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 27, 2015, 09:48:51 pm
I'm fine with the Bulls losing to the Bucks at this point.  The Bulls are just a mediocre team and I'm ready for them to just go away for the season.  No reason to wait to be humiliated by Cleveland.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 28, 2015, 09:47:20 am

http://411mania.com/wrestling/awa-legend-verne-gagne-reportedly-passes-away/ (http://411mania.com/wrestling/awa-legend-verne-gagne-reportedly-passes-away/)
(http://17r1l63fshd52dy9yakdizhkog.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Verne-Gagne.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 28, 2015, 10:14:42 am
He looks like he took some people to the Smackdown Hotel back in the day.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on April 28, 2015, 11:36:36 am
While suffering from dementia, he killed a guy in his nursing home a few years ago, too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 28, 2015, 11:40:33 am
http://pwinsider.com/article/93357/looking-at-the-life-career-of-the-late-verne-gagne.html?p=1
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 28, 2015, 01:43:16 pm
While suffering from dementia, he killed a guy in his nursing home a few years ago, too.

Yikes, I had forgotten about that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on April 28, 2015, 02:44:49 pm
Yeah the jurors said exactly that after the trial.

http://deadspin.com/jurors-say-aaron-hernandezs-defense-was-baffling-1697994540

Actually after reading that article, I kind of borderline wonder if Hernandez's lawyers didn't want to see him get away with it either.  I know that's not what a lawyer professionally should be doing, but still . . .

Attorneys are sometimes reduced to making arguments they never would have made if their clients had been honest with them in the first place.  Clients routinely lie to their attorneys in litigation, and as a result attorneys sometimes end up forced to pull arguments out of their ass without thinking much about how they will be received.  I have no idea whether that happened in the Hernandez case, and have not read the link because I don't care enough about Hernandez to make even that minimal effort.

I once was representing a client in a bench trial in contract case and a central issue was whether the other side (the defendant) had actually signed a receipt reflecting delivery.  My client said he did and produced the signed receipt, which I dutifully copied and introduced into evidence, confronting the other side with it when he took the stand and of course handing a copy of it to the judge for his examination so he could see that the other side was a liar and had acknowledged receipt and signed for it.

As I continued hammering at the other party on the witness stand I noticed Judge Holcomb picking up the document I had just handed him, the receipt, and carefully comparing it to the other document with the defendant's signature on it... and I noticed the judge seemed to be making faces.

I very quickly for the first time closely looked myself at the two documents... the signatures were not even remotely close, though the "receipt" signature did look amazingly similar to my client's handwriting.  (My guy lost, and I felt good he did -- he should have been charged with perjury.)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on April 30, 2015, 07:24:12 pm
I'm fine with the Bulls losing to the Bucks at this point.  The Bulls are just a mediocre team and I'm ready for them to just go away for the season.  No reason to wait to be humiliated by Cleveland.

Looks like the Bulls are going to Cleveland. I'm not sure they're going to be humiliated.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 30, 2015, 07:28:50 pm
Looks like the Bulls are going to Cleveland

Hopefully full squad and healthy. Bucks taking some cheap shots. One player ejected and Mayo has a technical as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 30, 2015, 08:39:33 pm
54 point margin has to be close to a record for a deciding playoff game.
But how in the world does Thibs play Butler nearly 32 minutes when they're up 50? Bulls had like 5 guys with fewer than 10 minutes. How do you not empty the bench half way through the 3rd quarter? That's ridiculous (and totally typical of Thibs, I know).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 30, 2015, 08:44:04 pm
Bulls have three days off so I don't really mind the starters playing a bit longer. I know there's the injury possibility, but those can happen at any point of any game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 30, 2015, 08:54:42 pm
Now that was the Bulls I  have been waiting for.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 30, 2015, 09:30:29 pm
This next series will be fun.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 02, 2015, 05:50:18 pm
So lets get everyone's predictions.

Im hoping Pacquiao but Im betting Mayweather.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on May 03, 2015, 11:08:26 am
I'll predict Mayweather.

Pacquiao's toast.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 04, 2015, 10:33:15 pm
At least the Bulls and Blackhawks have been winning.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 05, 2015, 04:27:19 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25175238/ex-mlb-reliever-kyle-farnsworth-is-now-a-defensive-lineman-in-florida

Farnsworth playing football now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on May 07, 2015, 11:41:14 pm
The Blackhawks are very good at playing hockey.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 08, 2015, 03:48:38 am
That was a scary last two minutes though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on May 08, 2015, 10:15:59 am
 A nail biter in those last 2 minutes,still I thought Blackhawks would prevail....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on May 08, 2015, 11:24:05 am
We need the Bulls to get off the snide and take care of Cle.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 08, 2015, 11:54:29 am
Going to be tough to win playing 5 on 8 the rest of the series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on May 08, 2015, 12:51:11 pm
I thought the Wild would hold their own coming into this series but the Hawks were just too much for them. Am I correct in saying that both ANA and CAL both dropped two of three from us during the regular season? Lets hope that carries over into the playoffs. Hawks looking goooooooodl
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 08, 2015, 01:45:22 pm
It almost seems unfair that the Hawks were able to pick up Timonen and Vermette and still have Kane come back. I heard last night that Vermette had won 70% of his faceoffs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on May 08, 2015, 03:38:28 pm
Rolling 4 lines this year, with guys like Vermette and Richards at center, is huge. And Turbo Terrapin (aka #86) is showing signs that he is going to be a star.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 08, 2015, 09:45:39 pm
Rose with an unreal 3 to win the game!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 08, 2015, 09:55:08 pm
When he's healthy he's a bad man.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 08, 2015, 09:59:38 pm
He was certainly bad the last 4 minutes; bailed out with that three.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 08, 2015, 10:36:47 pm
Terrible offensive play calls down the stretch.  No ball movement, all isolations.  Thibs just isn't very innovative when it comes to offense.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on May 09, 2015, 02:39:22 pm
He was certainly bad the last 4 minutes; bailed out with that three.

Is this "always find the negative spin" a thing you do on the internet or is this the real you?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 09, 2015, 02:48:11 pm
Bulls' performance down the stretch can be justifiably criticized.  Too much emphasis on isolation plays offensively, and a questionable decision not to foul with a 3-point lead, allowing JR Smith to get off his tying 3 pointer.  Thibs deserves most of the criticism rather than Rose.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on May 09, 2015, 06:17:08 pm
Pointing out issues with the Bulls performance down the stretch is one thing, Chris's obsession with pointing out flaws/failures/foibles in a player's performance is another. Let's hope, Cletus, it's just a web-posting persona. Can you imagine actually being like that in real life?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 10, 2015, 04:45:55 pm
Bulls have pissed this one away it seems.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 10, 2015, 04:51:14 pm
Be happy they won two games, I didn't think they'd manage that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 10, 2015, 05:06:08 pm
May not be over yet.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 10, 2015, 05:07:37 pm
Nevermind.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 10, 2015, 05:08:18 pm
Series is done.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 10, 2015, 05:11:03 pm
They're basically playing without Love and Irving.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 10, 2015, 05:17:36 pm
Too bad the Bulls choked away 2 long stretches in this game or it would have been a run away.  Shocking to see Lebron hit a clutch jumper to win it.  Got to give him credit. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 10, 2015, 05:35:12 pm
Thibs insists on getting Noah heavily involved in the offense even late in the shot clock.  The result almost every time is a turnover or missed layup by Noah.  Simply awful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 10, 2015, 05:37:56 pm
At least the Bulls have beaten LeBron twice this series.  That's a new record.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 10, 2015, 05:47:13 pm
Dunleavy and Mirotic were 2-16. Why are you blaming the coach?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 10, 2015, 06:00:09 pm
Because he deserves a good share of the blame.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 10, 2015, 06:07:18 pm
Not to me he doesn't. The team is just mediocre.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 10, 2015, 07:35:58 pm
I have no problem at all with Thibodeau.

If the Bulls fire him he wont be unemployed 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 12, 2015, 08:37:45 pm
The Bulls find a way to lose another close game. Might've won had Rose not missed 15 of his last 16 shots.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 12, 2015, 10:24:39 pm
Interesting stat on the Bulls post-game on CSN:

In the playoffs, LeBron James' team is 28-3 with Joey Crawford on the officiating crew.



Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 12, 2015, 11:26:32 pm
Interesting stat on the Bulls post-game on CSN:

In the playoffs, LeBron James' team is 28-3 with Joey Crawford on the officiating crew.

That's pretty amazing. 

I wonder what his record is otherwise.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 12, 2015, 11:27:21 pm
By the way, Joey Crawford officiating big games in the playoffs seems like the basketball equivalent to Joe West, Angel Hernandez, Sam Holbrook, or C.B. Bucknor officiating big games in the baseball post-season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 12, 2015, 11:30:18 pm
I heard other teams are a combined 3-28 when Crawford and LeBron are on the same floor.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 14, 2015, 09:54:06 pm
I'm actually glad the Bulls are done.  What a miserable team to watch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 14, 2015, 09:59:46 pm
I agree, Robb.  Of course, I still have the Warriors to root for.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 14, 2015, 10:27:45 pm
How does that saying go?

If you have two favorite teams you really dont even have one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 14, 2015, 10:44:37 pm
Anybody but Lebron is my favorite team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 14, 2015, 10:47:57 pm
Stephen A. Smith says Tom Thibodeau will be fired in a matter of days.

Stupid.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on May 15, 2015, 01:04:08 pm
Stephen A. Smith says Tom Thibodeau will be fired in a matter of days.

Stupid.
EPIC STUPID
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 15, 2015, 01:08:06 pm
The right move for all concerned.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 15, 2015, 02:36:07 pm
He can't leave fast enough.  You can't coach one side of the ball and win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 15, 2015, 03:13:22 pm
This Bulls team wasn't good on either side of the ball and it was, in my estimation, more of a personnel situation. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on May 15, 2015, 03:21:37 pm
Don't worry Alvin Gentry and his 335-370 record will fix what is wrong with the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 15, 2015, 03:30:59 pm
I'm guessing an even more cheap fix like Adrian Griffin.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 15, 2015, 04:11:30 pm
The word is it's gonna be Gentry.

I was expecting Hoiberg.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 15, 2015, 04:12:25 pm
I thought Hoiberg was the consensus.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on May 15, 2015, 04:23:59 pm
Hoiberg has his aortic valve replaced and the rumor is he doesn't want to jump to the NBA following the surgery.  I'm not sure why college basketball is that much easier for him.  The last time the Bulls hired an Iowa State coach is worked out well, too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 15, 2015, 05:48:06 pm
Tim Floyd?

That wasnt a good hire Hoss.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on May 15, 2015, 06:16:29 pm
Purple impaired.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 15, 2015, 10:36:29 pm
The NBA is as crooked as boxing. That end of the 3rd quarter proved it beyond doubt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 15, 2015, 10:46:59 pm
One thing I never understood about boxing: why is the score kept secret until the end?  Can you imagine basketball, baseball, hockey, football, soccer...you weren't allowed to post scores?  If a boxer knew he was 2 points down, wouldn't that alter his strategy and make the fight better? 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 15, 2015, 11:07:00 pm
I didn't see anything wrong. Looked like a clean steal to me unless you think there should've been a jump ball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on May 15, 2015, 11:09:25 pm
One thing I never understood about boxing: why is the score kept secret until the end?  Can you imagine basketball, baseball, hockey, football, soccer...you weren't allowed to post scores?  If a boxer knew he was 2 points down, wouldn't that alter his strategy and make the fight better? 

Sure, but then there would be no tension in the arena after the fight when there's a hundred people in the ring waiting for Michael Buffer to announce the decision.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 15, 2015, 11:51:36 pm
Terrible the way the refs kept calling everything in favor of the Warriors.  Clearly the better team was robbed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 16, 2015, 02:30:53 pm
Green was clearly fouled at the end of the 3rd.

That was a potential 6 point swing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 16, 2015, 02:33:37 pm
That said, not having Tony Allen made it much easier for GS...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 16, 2015, 04:03:40 pm
Still looks like 100% ball to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9necA_prVM
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 16, 2015, 05:21:11 pm
I could go to my DVR, find the play, pause it to clearly show the foul, take a picture, and post it here...but frankly, I don't care enough to expound the energy to do so...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 16, 2015, 05:24:26 pm
You can pause it at 36 seconds too. I see a tie up at worst. If you get the ball first you can make some body contact.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 16, 2015, 05:28:38 pm
American Pharoah looked strong.

Hope he can finish it off at the Belmont.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 20, 2015, 01:12:28 am

Hawks Win!   Hawks Win!


Marcus Kruger with the game winning goal at 16:12 in the third overtime.  Longest game in Blackhawks history!


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 20, 2015, 01:31:02 am
Wow. Anaheim looks really good.  I like the way they play.  Hawks need Kane and Toewes to make some noise.

Great win and Crawford looked great.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 20, 2015, 08:59:29 am
Great win last nigh  It'll be a long series.  And the team that comes out of the East is going to be tough to beat.  I'm particularly impressed with Tampa Bay.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Pistol on May 21, 2015, 09:47:58 pm
If I was the Ducks coach I would play hack a shaq and keep the Hawks on the power play.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 21, 2015, 10:02:36 pm
The Hawks, much like the Bulls, just aren't very good. If not for numerous posts hit in game two, it'd be 3-0.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 22, 2015, 01:02:33 am

The University of Illinois baseball team's 27-game winning streak is over as Maryland beats them 2-1 at the Big 10 Baseball Tournament at Target Field.  The Illini now drop into the loser's bracket where they'll need to beat Michigan State Friday night to stay alive in the tourney.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 22, 2015, 06:45:22 am
Chris, your baseball expertise is only exceeded by your hockey acumen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 22, 2015, 07:02:30 am
I know.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 22, 2015, 08:39:02 am
Yes the Ducks are clearly the better team.  They really play like I'd want my favorite team to play.  They are physical but a great passing team.  And the put 1-2 guys in front of the net.  They will be very hard to beat.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 22, 2015, 01:14:43 pm
LOL, one of my son's best friends may crack SC Top 10 tonight...watch this crazy play from today's AAC baseball tournament action...

https://twitter.com/american_conf/status/601795926257115136
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 22, 2015, 01:15:44 pm
http://t.co/u4XoT0ELMt
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on May 23, 2015, 06:02:42 pm
Awesome, Dave! And it wasn't against the Cubs!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 23, 2015, 08:24:05 pm
Ha!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on May 23, 2015, 09:57:09 pm
That was great. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 23, 2015, 10:02:53 pm
Hawks gave up 3 goals in less than a minute.   Heading to OT
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 23, 2015, 11:37:09 pm
Hawks get fortunate again after blowing a 3-1 third-period lead and getting dominated in OT. Now have to win in Anaheim again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 24, 2015, 01:22:40 am
A mediocre hockey team like the B'Hawks have no chance to win this series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 24, 2015, 02:12:01 am
They beat Nashville despite being outplayed, could happen here too. Wouldn't put money on it though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on May 24, 2015, 08:09:06 pm
They beat Nashville despite being outplayed, could happen here too. Wouldn't put money on it though.
oh ye of little faith... ;)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 25, 2015, 10:42:26 pm
Blackhawks crap the bed the first 12 minutes, yet again give up 2 goals in a half minute, and never recover.

Now have to win the last two.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 25, 2015, 10:48:31 pm
Ha! Now they tie it with two late goals.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 25, 2015, 10:48:34 pm
Blackhawks crap the bed the first 12 minutes, yet again give up 2 goals in a half minute, and never recover.

Now have to win the last two.

O' Ye of little faith.   

Game now tied as Captain Serious scores twice with Crawford on the bench.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 25, 2015, 10:51:40 pm
They haven't shown much reason to have faith quite frankly. They have controlled the game since being down 3-0 but that last goal is a bad one on Anderson.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on May 25, 2015, 10:52:34 pm
I wish I understood more about hockey.  Jonathan Toews seems to be pretty good at it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 25, 2015, 11:03:42 pm
I wish I understood more about hockey.  Jonathan Toews seems to be pretty good at it.
All North Dakota kids are pretty good at it, after all there's nothing else to do.  Oh.  Wait.  You're talking about hockey.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 25, 2015, 11:05:28 pm
Chris27--

now you can post how they need to win the next two games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 25, 2015, 11:06:01 pm
Yep, nothing changed in the end.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 25, 2015, 11:11:11 pm
Bad day for Chicago sports. 

Cubs lose, White Sox shut out, Bears forced to cut a player & will get all kinds of bad publicity for signing him in the first place and now the 'Hawks lose in OT.   The Bulls still have 38 minutes to fired Thibs to complete this bad day in Chicago sports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 25, 2015, 11:17:16 pm
Well, the Bears made their own bed and so have the Bulls really. The Hawks just aren't all that good anymore and they'll look very different next year since Bowman completely overestimated a rise in the cap.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 25, 2015, 11:30:46 pm
The Warriors cost me a fortune tonight.  I have tickets for game 5.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 25, 2015, 11:34:42 pm
At least they're going to win and will be favorites to win the title.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 25, 2015, 11:38:57 pm
If I witness them winning the game to clinch going to the finals for the first time in 40 years, it will be worth it.  Even for a Bulls fan like me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 25, 2015, 11:40:08 pm
They're fun to watch. Hope they take the whining king to the woodshed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 28, 2015, 11:32:30 am
Thibodeau fired per ESPN.

Stupid.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 28, 2015, 11:57:14 am
Warriors!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 28, 2015, 11:57:35 am
And how 'bout the fight in those B'Hawks.  Awesome.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 28, 2015, 12:06:25 pm
Yeah the Hawks definitely looked like the better team most of that game except for about 8 minutes in the 3rd.  And that second goal by the Ducks should have been disallowed.  Terrible.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 28, 2015, 12:27:58 pm
I don't expect to hear anything from Chris unless the B'Hawks lose game 7.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 28, 2015, 12:31:46 pm
Didn't know I was obligated to post or that you were so keen on hearing from me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 28, 2015, 01:07:12 pm
Warriors/Grizz was the NBA Championship...congrats to the Warriors...now end already!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 28, 2015, 02:09:07 pm

Chicago Bulls press release on the dismissal of Thibs:

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/tomthibodeau528 (http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/tomthibodeau528)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 28, 2015, 02:31:21 pm
Your Bulls front office:

https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/status/603974961926119424

https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/603976181222744065
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on May 28, 2015, 03:13:12 pm
?? What did JVG say?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on May 28, 2015, 03:23:49 pm
tico:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/john-paxson-calls-jeff-van-gundy-s-criticism-of-the-chicago-bulls--pretty-pathetic-232252305.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on May 28, 2015, 05:38:54 pm
Blackhawks were the better team last night...Blackhawks need to repeat the performance Saturday evening...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on May 28, 2015, 06:03:05 pm
Well, I certainly hope that the commentary of some tv personality isn't taken so personally by the Bulls front office that it would affect their opinion of Thibs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 29, 2015, 03:35:36 am
You must not be familiar with the pettiness of the Bulls' FO, tico.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-bulls-management-could-never-accept-tom-thibodeau-s-success-053816326.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 29, 2015, 08:18:47 am
A theory that Thibs became too popular and management was jealous:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-bulls-management-could-never-accept-tom-thibodeau-s-success-053816326.html

My theory is that the management came to the conclusion that Thibs' coaching approach (combined with roster limitations) was not going to result in a team that seriously contends for a title.  Combining that with their unhappiness with Thibs' interactions with them (or lack thereof) and the availability of a coach that they seem to think has a philosophy that could get them over the hump, they decided to dump Thibs.

I don't consider any of this a failure of Thibs with respect to his job.  He got a lot out of the players he was given.  Management is responsible for assembling the roster and choosing the coach, and they have not succeeded to the level that Bulls' fans demand.  But they have succeeded in fielding very good teams, and Reinsdorf was not going to jettison them.  That basically left dumping Thibs and bringing on Hoiberg as the most sensible approach.  Thibs will catch on elsewhere and continue his successful coaching career.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on May 29, 2015, 08:24:32 am
Sounds like he really got a rough deal, but the media is also fawning over their new martyr - it's an easy story to sell. I think there could have been legitimate concerns with Thibs' coaching style, and it wouldn't be unreasonable to ask if Rose's career might have looked a little different if his coach weren't such an absolute grinder.

Thibs absolutely deserved better on the way out. Bulls should have thanked him and praised him and said they were looking for a different style and angle that was more coherent with front office vision. To drag him through the streets is unfair and seems very petty. But I'm sure Thibs has done his fair share of provoking the divide in this relationship, and I find it difficult to buy the simplistic and reductionary crucified messiah narrative the media is pumping up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on May 29, 2015, 08:26:11 am
Or what P2 said.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 29, 2015, 11:30:41 am
Similar to Lovie Smith's dismissal from the Bears it appears
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 29, 2015, 12:43:57 pm
Reinsdorf ran Phil Jackson out of town and publicly bashed Horace Grant after letting him go, Paxson punched Vinny Del Negro, Paxson and Foreman dumped assistant Ron Adams for no reason other than he was Thibs' guy. Whatever one thinks of Thibodeau as coach or his part in the relationship issues with the FO, the people running the Bulls are still first-rate jerks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 29, 2015, 03:28:33 pm
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/28/tom-thibodeau-fired-bulls-fred-hoiberg-jerry-reinsdorf-gar-forman
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 29, 2015, 04:51:30 pm
Bulls have turned into a first class trash franchise
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 30, 2015, 07:32:54 pm
Blackhawks score first.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on May 30, 2015, 08:00:58 pm
And second.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 30, 2015, 08:02:21 pm
And they got out of the 1st without giving any back which, if you know them, is near miraculous.

Very solid 1st period and Anderson looked shaky.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on May 30, 2015, 08:18:03 pm
And third.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on May 30, 2015, 08:41:55 pm
And fourth.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 30, 2015, 08:44:09 pm
Cashing in on just about every chance tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on May 30, 2015, 08:57:12 pm
Not fifth, though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 30, 2015, 10:20:33 pm
Great win.  Tampa Bay will be a challenge- they are good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 30, 2015, 10:49:39 pm
Hawks!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 30, 2015, 11:08:54 pm
They proved me wrong. Didn't think they'd win tonight. Still scarred from the game 7 against LA. But the best road game they've played this playoffs, and the stars came through.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 30, 2015, 11:34:24 pm
Congrats to the Hawks.  It still stings like hell losing to them in the first round, but I've been pulling for them ever since then.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 31, 2015, 12:30:01 am
JR- We're gonna be in Nashville Saturday night and leave Sunday morning.

Got any ideas for somewhere good to eat?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 31, 2015, 12:53:01 am
You mean next Saturday or Sunday?  Actually I have plenty of ideas on food . . . what are you looking for? 

By the way, if you felt like catching up for a drink, let me know.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 31, 2015, 01:50:16 am
JR- We're gonna be in Nashville Saturday night and leave Sunday morning.

Got any ideas for somewhere good to eat?


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEQvaTnWYAE4EOo.jpg)


Try 312 Pizza Company which is right down the street from the new Nashville Sounds ballpark.  The owners are Chicago natives and it's the official home of the Chicago Blackhawks Nashville Chapter so they'll have game 2 of the Stanley Cup Final on their big screens if you're there on Saturday night.   It was voted one of the Top 5 “Must Try” Pizza Places in Nashville by Nashville Lifestyles Magazine and specializing in authentic Chicago cuisine including deep dish pizza, thin crust pizza, Italian beefs and hot dogs. 

http://312pizzaco.com/ (http://312pizzaco.com/)

I also hear JR really was impressed by "The Bartman" cocktail on their drink menu.
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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 31, 2015, 07:09:29 am
JR, Dusty would probably enjoy either one of the two places across the street from where we met up a couple months ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 31, 2015, 07:32:42 am
JR- We'll be there this coming up Saturday night and I'd definitely be interested in catching up a little if you are.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 31, 2015, 07:52:46 am
I have a wife who says I'm a homebody so she planned this whole family weekend thing.

Just doing my husbandly duties.

Me, my wife, and my son are going.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 31, 2015, 10:38:07 am
I think the wife and I are going to be in Nashville at the end of June and then off to Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg for the first week of July.

I think. Maybe not.

I'd rather go back to Clearwater, Florida and swim in the Gulf.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 31, 2015, 11:24:36 am
I live in Pigeon Forge JBN.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 31, 2015, 11:39:05 am
Smoky mountains are very nice - whitewater rafting on the Big Pigeon is quite an adventure
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 31, 2015, 11:55:30 am
I moved here when I got married.

She's from the Phillipines but she was adopted when she was 2 and has lived here her whole life.

Other than her looks there's nothing Philipino about her.

This place is commonly referred to as Las Vegas for kids and that's about right.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 31, 2015, 12:03:24 pm
Not really into the mountains. I like the beach and water myself.

I hated it in Arizona two years when we went. Mountains were just big ugly rocks with trees.

Maybe the Smoky Mountains are better.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 31, 2015, 12:33:26 pm
We had a secluded cabin in the smokies - hot tub on the deck - hot tub in the bedroom - lots of wineries nearby
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 31, 2015, 06:27:16 pm
That's my kind of roughing it...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 31, 2015, 06:49:20 pm
I'm afraid they aren't so secluded anymore - because everyone wanted a piece of that action
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 31, 2015, 07:07:54 pm
There are still tons of secluded ones.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 31, 2015, 07:09:15 pm
That is good to know
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 31, 2015, 07:11:38 pm
We've camped in upstate NY, Delaware and AZ - seemed like the landowners were maximizing profits at the expense of secluded campsites
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on May 31, 2015, 07:21:26 pm
I think the wife and I are going to be in Nashville at the end of June and then off to Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg for the first week of July.

I think. Maybe not.

I'd rather go back to Clearwater, Florida and swim in the Gulf.


Come on down JB... the new beer fridge will be installed shortly!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 31, 2015, 07:27:23 pm
I peed in the gulf on occasion - so there's that...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 01, 2015, 12:31:51 pm
Entertaining perspective on the Stanley Cup finals:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-huppke-blackhawks-florida-20150601-story.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on June 01, 2015, 01:22:23 pm
Hawks in five
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 01, 2015, 01:30:50 pm
I hope you're right, but I doubt it.  Tampa Bay is very good.  It's likely to be a long series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on June 01, 2015, 01:59:34 pm
hawks are riding high now....momentum peaking at a great time
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 01, 2015, 04:15:52 pm
That momentum is going to be jolted to reality when they face the bolts...

Remember how hungry the Hawks were a few years ago... that's the bolts now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 01, 2015, 04:16:19 pm
The Bulls' comprehensive coaching search:

http://www.blogabull.com/2015/6/1/8700187/infographic-of-gar-paxdorfs-nationwide-search-for-a-head-coach
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 01, 2015, 06:59:15 pm
method, you go to Clearwater much?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 01, 2015, 08:00:54 pm
Until about a month ago I worked there... for beaches we go to treasure island... fewer tourists and no laws against open containers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 01, 2015, 08:01:28 pm
In laws live in Belleair area do we are down there quite a bit
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 01, 2015, 10:07:03 pm
I like Clearwater the best. Love the area. Especially by the Palm Pavilion.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 02, 2015, 07:28:46 pm
Let me know when you are in town next. Will meet you a beer... I now work down the road from cigar city brewing... worth the visit if you are in town.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 03, 2015, 09:53:03 pm
Chicago wins 2-1.

3 more to go.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on June 03, 2015, 09:56:10 pm
Hawks are an incredible team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 03, 2015, 10:02:07 pm
Too bad the Cubs, Bears and Bulls can't follow.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 03, 2015, 10:42:46 pm
I don't think they've played very well often in the playoffs--including tonight--but they're finding ways to win somehow. If they pick their level up they'll beat Tampa.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 03, 2015, 11:06:12 pm
(http://www.csnchicago.com/sites/csnchicago/files/styles/scale_282px_wide/public/hawk-harrelson-0524.png?itok=2MBGXlte)

If Hawk Harrelson was designing the next Blackhawks T-shirt:




(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/create-a-forum/Other/BH-PB-TWTW-trans_zpsgkkcr8bp.png)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 04, 2015, 06:59:20 am
I only was able to watch the third period.  Great win.  Clearly the Hawks can raise the level of their game when they need to.  But I'm still wary of Tampa Bay.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 04, 2015, 08:23:05 am
Crawford was on fire last night...his block of the Callahan shot was fantastic...TB played a helluva game for 55 minutes ,but the Hawks needed 1minute 38 seconds to take the lead and snatch a victory from the jaws of defeat...Go 'Hawks!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 07, 2015, 10:37:06 pm
Hard to believe Golden State is having so much trouble with that Cleveland roster.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 08, 2015, 10:04:05 pm
Tampa is much better
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 08, 2015, 10:05:39 pm
Hawks have held the lead for 6 minutes in three games, Tampa for almost an hour and a half.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 08, 2015, 10:10:24 pm
I think this series is toast now.

But can't complain too much. Not many other Chicago teams have done what the Hawks have the past six seasons. I also have no problem with Tampa since I'm trying to convince the wife to moving to the area. :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 08, 2015, 10:24:36 pm
They could still win but they haven't given much reason for hope. Can't get a lead and the ones they do are gone in a flash. Bishop looks injured but the Hawks still can't score.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 08, 2015, 10:42:40 pm
Tampa Bay is very good.  So are the B'Hawks.  I see this one going 7 games and being a toss up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 09, 2015, 09:01:36 pm
When does Golden State show up and beat this bunch of nobodies?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 09, 2015, 10:36:30 pm
Did Deledova sell his soul to the devil?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 09, 2015, 10:44:09 pm
He's trying to sell himself as the plucky, overachieving white guy so the Bulls' FO will have a replacement for Hinrich.

On a related note, the Bulls gave Cleveland a tougher series than this.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 10, 2015, 09:24:46 am
Warriors wont stay this cold.

if lebron has a hot shooting game next game though it might be lights out for Warriors.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 10, 2015, 09:32:07 am
The Warriors must find a way to adjust.  Perhaps more emphasis on setting solid screens so that there shooters get comfortable looks.  Perhaps more time for Lee and Speights to spread the scoring threats.  It will be interesting to see how Kerr adjusts.  He has seen it all, and has the talent to come out on top.  But it's going to be a dogfight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 11, 2015, 08:07:31 am
Ugly win for the 'Hawks last night to even the series and back to TB . Pretty maddening to see this team play well only to lose and deliver two victories off of less than stellar play.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 11, 2015, 09:16:39 am
They're quite fortunate to be even in this series.  It'll be a struggle right to the end.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on June 11, 2015, 01:06:48 pm
I dont care how they played or how they looked...they WON and thats what matters....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 11, 2015, 01:58:49 pm
The American Dream, The Son Of A Plumber, One of the 5 best wrestlers that ever lived Dusty Rhodes died today at 69.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on June 11, 2015, 02:43:08 pm
The American Dream, The Son Of A Plumber, One of the 5 best wrestlers that ever lived Dusty Rhodes died today at 69.

The last bit is certainly debatable but the man sure could cut a hell of a promo.  Rest  in peace, Virgil.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 11, 2015, 03:19:30 pm
DUSTY --

If you're making another visit to Chicago this year, here's a place you might like.  The Squared Circle - a restaurant owned by former WWE wrestler Victoria (Lisa Marie Varon) and her husband. Wrestling & MMA videos on the big screens. It's located about two miles SSW of Wrigley Field:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeTrVuCHomQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeTrVuCHomQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyqCvjPpuao (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyqCvjPpuao)

http://thesquaredcircle.biz/ (http://thesquaredcircle.biz/)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 11, 2015, 11:26:25 pm
Real nice adjustment by Kerr to go small, starting Iggy and Lee with Bogut on the bench.  Huge game for Iggy.  If the Warriors can keep the pace up in the remaining games, they should be OK.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 13, 2015, 09:33:02 pm
I don't watch a ton of hockey so a question. When the Hawks get the lead they seem to me a little more passive sometimes. Is that just how hockey can flow where one team gets the puck on their end for a while or is it more of a prevent defense or just a function of the line on ice?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 13, 2015, 09:48:07 pm
It's been that way nearly the entire playoffs. They haven't had an easy win in about 40 playoff games.

This series has never been separated by more than a goal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 13, 2015, 11:32:31 pm
Hawks just need to eke out one more.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 15, 2015, 09:07:20 pm
No idea how they've gotten this far, but the Blackhawks need one more good period. A 2-goal lead would be nice too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 15, 2015, 09:55:55 pm
Well, there you go...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 15, 2015, 09:59:37 pm
Well, champions again

Pay attention Cubs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 15, 2015, 10:43:15 pm

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/BHawks/2015SCC_zpswzot9vrg.png)


(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/BHawks/X_zps1ofszrmw.gif)
#TWTW


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 15, 2015, 10:58:40 pm
Well done, B'Hawks!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 16, 2015, 09:00:42 am
Awesome finish for the 'Hawks. Duncan Keith gets the  Conn Smythe Trophy as MVP of the series was really special.Corey Crawford played huge in this series...so glad for my hometown team!!! Now let's go Cubs!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on June 16, 2015, 09:16:27 am
Tremendous character on that team!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 16, 2015, 09:37:01 am
Good win for the Hawks. that game one loss was too costly for the Bolts.

atleast the future is bright in Tampa.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 16, 2015, 10:47:15 am
Tampa Bay is very good- the series could certainly have gone either way.  Experience helps a lot, and the Lightening will be more experience in next year's playoffs.  The Hawks will have a tough time dealing with the salary cap, although the emergence of Teravainen is very helpful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 16, 2015, 10:56:25 am
JB, perhaps this can help you convince the wife to move down to Tampa...

http://www.portillos.com/announcing-tampa/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on June 16, 2015, 01:09:38 pm
salary cap will be somewhat of a challenge again this offseason for the Hawks....look for bickell and or Versteeg to be in different uniforms next season...and yes, Saad is going to get paid and the hawks will see he remains in CHI
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 16, 2015, 02:24:51 pm
Agree on Saad being signed to a lucrative contract. Saad is a core player for the Hawks going forward.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 16, 2015, 06:31:21 pm
Good win for the Hawks. that game one loss was too costly for the Bolts.

atleast the future is bright in Tampa.


You would think so but nothing is guaranteed.  Just look at last year's Stanley Cup champs (LA Kings) as they didn't even make the playoffs this year. A couple of key injuries and some sub-season performances from a few key guys can close the window really quick.

Nevertheless, it's hard to dislike the Lightning with the notable exceptions of their arrogant condescending prick of a head coach and cheap shot slewfooting Nikita Kucherov. 

Kind of surprising how little flack Steven Stamkos is getting from the national press (especially in Canada) for his disappearance the the Final.  If it was Alexander Ovechkin of the Capitals 'shitting the bed' in the Final, he'd be crucified.

for method:   ;D




(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/BHawks/Stamkosmilk_zpsqofb3x76.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 16, 2015, 07:57:56 pm
method, the ocean and seafood is good enough for me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 16, 2015, 07:59:22 pm
Bonefish Grill is the best.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 16, 2015, 08:25:05 pm
JBN - agree on bone fish... i worked for OSI for many years and that was by far their best restaurant. (Carrabbas used to be good once upon a time).



Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 16, 2015, 08:33:51 pm
Bang Bang all the way.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 16, 2015, 08:48:59 pm
Bonefish is good and all, but if I lived down there, I would never eat seafood in a restaurant. Buy it fresh and cook it yourself...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 16, 2015, 09:32:26 pm
Bonefish is good and all, but if I lived down there, I would never eat seafood in a restaurant. Buy it fresh and cook it yourself...

I recieved a 75% discounts at the restaurants for being a corporate office employee...

It was cheaper to eat out everyday then to go to the grocery store... made dating a lot more cost effective as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 16, 2015, 09:42:36 pm
In your case, yeah...I can see that...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 16, 2015, 11:01:03 pm
Good job by the Warriors finally finishing off Cleveland.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 16, 2015, 11:07:45 pm
I dont give a damn about the Warriors but it's good to see Lebron lose.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 16, 2015, 11:40:51 pm
Not 1 finals loss, not 2, not 3.....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 16, 2015, 11:43:51 pm
B'Hawks and Warriors, championships won on consecutive days.  Wow!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 16, 2015, 11:56:05 pm
Maybe the Cubs will win the wildcard championship for you in the fall.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 17, 2015, 07:52:54 am
The correlation between strong management and championships is certainly noteworthy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 17, 2015, 09:06:51 am
It still has always amazed me how often winning by one franchise in a city is followed by others.  Doesn't always happen, of course, but it's interesting.  Maybe it's more financial commitment with the competitors for the entertainment dollar, a different fan and media attitude, or just a sharing of TWTW.  Not sure.  Giants and Warriors.  49ers stunk but have been good for several years.  Patriots and Red Sox rejuvenated about the same time.  Over the years it happens too often to just be coincidence.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 17, 2015, 09:59:59 am
So the White Sox are going to win the World Series, great.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 17, 2015, 10:49:17 am
They just did a short decade ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 17, 2015, 11:05:24 am
I don't want this to come off in a mean spirited way, but I'm afraid I'm not going to phrase it well.  What do you think of the current White Sox team and what they should do?  Everything is kinda bad luck and regroup next year?  Sell off some pieces and rebuild around Sale/Rodon/Abreu?  Blow it up? 

To me it seems like they have 3 really good pieces in Sale/Rodon/Abreu.  Some ok guys in Samardzija/Quintana.  Some guys that are really under performing and some really large holes with little coming up on farm that is close that will fill those holes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 17, 2015, 11:24:00 am
Quote
I don't want this to come off in a mean spirited way, but I'm afraid I'm not going to phrase it well.

I'll help you out then. 

So how do you go about fixing that steaming pile of excrement, complete train wreck of a team that the White Sox have become?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 17, 2015, 11:47:55 am
They are -3 fWAR for position players as a team.  Jeff Samardzija with 2 PA has the 4th most batting/fielding at 0.1.  It isn't far off, but I was trying to be nice.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 17, 2015, 11:50:43 am
JR sugarcoats everything.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 17, 2015, 12:55:00 pm
They are -3 fWAR for position players as a team.  Jeff Samardzija with 2 PA has the 4th most batting/fielding at 0.1.  It isn't far off, but I was trying to be nice.

Yeah but I was a lot more succinct.  :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 17, 2015, 01:14:12 pm
I would fire Kenny Williams.

Then i'd call him up and fire him again even though he was no longer with the team. just to make sure.

I dont think the sox should have gone "all-in" last year. I think they should have waited and rebuilt.

They wont be successful in the new wild card era as long as they keep short changing the draft every single year. One good prospect and mailing in the rest of the draft doesnt work.

So imo, i'd blow it up, entirely. I'd trade everything on the roster starting with Chris Sale and Abreau and i'd target major league ready or high upside young bats only. Sox can develop pitching just fine.

Sale would bring back a small fortune considering his contract and talent level. He's the type of player that you can ask for Betts and Xander and not get laughed at.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 17, 2015, 01:28:33 pm
Thanks.

I don't even want to think what the Cubs would have to give up for Sale.  He has tremendous value.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 17, 2015, 07:17:27 pm

Time for the press & fans to get off of Jay Cutler's back as he led the Chicago Bears to their 2015 win of the Stanley Cup. So says the Korean  Times:


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHtfHUvWUAEgrI1.jpg)



http://wgntv.com/2015/06/17/chicago-bears-win-stanley-cup-korean-newspaper-reports/ (http://wgntv.com/2015/06/17/chicago-bears-win-stanley-cup-korean-newspaper-reports/)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 17, 2015, 07:59:55 pm
I'd say most Americans wouldnt know the difference either.

It is hockey you know.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 18, 2015, 02:00:09 pm
Chambers Bay may turn out to be a good choice when it comes to determining a U.S. Open champion but it has virtually no appeal to fans watching on television.  With only a couple exceptions the holes all look alike.  The lack of trees doesn't help.  The greens look smooth but have a distinct speckled look to them making it hard to see where a ball is when a live shot shows it landing.

The Fox coverage appears to be adequate.  Greg Norman has made a few astute comments but they don't go to him often enough.  Dallas Cowboys and St. Louis Cardinals fan Joe Buck is out of his element.  Corey Pavin and Brad Faxon may become good analysts in a few years.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on June 18, 2015, 03:02:10 pm
The Fox coverage appears to be adequate.  Greg Norman has made a few astute comments but they don't go to him often enough.  Dallas Cowboys and St. Louis Cardinals fan Joe Buck is out of his element.  Corey Pavin and Brad Faxon may become good analysts in a few years.

As a Cowboys fan, I'm insulted that you would lump me in with Joe Buck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 18, 2015, 05:58:30 pm
The Bulls tried to get this clown.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3896/lebrons-handling-of-blatt-unbecoming
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 21, 2015, 10:13:23 pm
Jordan Spieth is a pretty good golfer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 21, 2015, 10:26:42 pm
That course was the worst I've ever seen.  I saw one putt on one of the greens that rolled 15 feet, popped 3 inches in the air and took a left turn, ending up 10 ft from the hole.  There are some historic courses mid-Nebraska with sand greens in better shape than that course and those greens.  Do the people around there actually play that course?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on June 22, 2015, 08:51:05 am
Yes, people play it. It's a fantastic course.  Very hard walk, though.  Seems like every hole starts from the top of the ridge and plays back down to the middle which means a lot of walks up to the top to get to the tees.  Kind of a weird routing but it works.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 22, 2015, 09:35:48 am
That course was the worst I've ever seen.  I saw one putt on one of the greens that rolled 15 feet, popped 3 inches in the air and took a left turn, ending up 10 ft from the hole.  There are some historic courses mid-Nebraska with sand greens in better shape than that course and those greens.  Do the people around there actually play that course?

This is a picture Ian Poulter posted to Instagram of one of the greens.  This literally looks like one of the greens at the local $6 municipal Par 3 course near my place.

https://instagram.com/p/4Nmq2zpg2V/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 22, 2015, 09:44:26 am
My biggest complaint with Chambers Bay was that the penalty for a shot only a few yards off line was way too severe.  Rolling off the green, fine.  But not 50 yards down a hill into long rough.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 22, 2015, 09:56:19 am
Often repeated USGA U.S. Open saying:  "We're not trying to punish the best players in the world, We're trying to identify them."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 25, 2015, 06:35:34 am
No comments about Vandy losing in the CWS final?

Gotta love that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on June 25, 2015, 09:07:41 pm
Bulls select:

http://www.nba.com/draft/2015/prospects/bobby_portis?ls=iref:nba:draft:tracker
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 26, 2015, 12:29:34 pm
Portis' old tweets about the Bulls are a riot:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-bobby-portis-apologizes-anti-bulls-tweets-20150626-htmlstory.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on June 27, 2015, 03:34:27 pm
Hilarious
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 27, 2015, 03:40:07 pm
I often wonder if Facebook and Twitter were around when I was in college if I would have been let into medical school.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 30, 2015, 06:33:13 pm
After promising that he would re-sign Brandon Saad, Stan Bowman has just traded him to Columbus. I hope everyone enjoyed the last Cup because that is what it is going to be.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 30, 2015, 07:16:39 pm
Saad was looking for 6 years, $6.5 AAV.  It sounds like the Blackhawks had to choose between him and TT.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 30, 2015, 07:20:10 pm
And that's about the equivelent of two rec softball teams trading 2nd basemen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 30, 2015, 07:28:49 pm
Teraveinen makes nothing. Not sure what he has to do with it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 30, 2015, 07:51:26 pm
If you sign Saad for 6 years, TT would be a free agent sometime in there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 30, 2015, 08:08:36 pm
TT wouldn't be unrestricted for 8 years, and we don't even know if he's going to produce.

The league really has problems if a 22-yo who is five years from UFA can demand those figures and force his way out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 30, 2015, 08:13:49 pm
Rumor is he had an offer sheet coming tomorrow for that amount.  It was either trade him, take a 1st,2nd and 3rd or make the cap unworkable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 30, 2015, 08:15:15 pm
I heard that. Teams are nuts. 

Would seem to indicate that Sharp/Bickell/Versteeg close to untradeable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on June 30, 2015, 08:53:07 pm
I'd rather have the draft picks.  I didn't like anyone they got back.  Seems like he could have gotten more for him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 01, 2015, 04:00:45 am
Re: the Saad trade, Marko Dano is supposedly a very talented player and the key to the Hawks not being robbed in the deal. Anisimov is a solid player. Big problems still loom. They need to move Bickell and probably Versteeg. If they can, I'd hold on to Sharp who is due to bounce back from a subpar season. They're also going to need to replace Oduya and missing out on Mike Reilly over the weekend was a killer. All that said, their supposed interest in Barret Jackman is nauseating and would test my allegiance for any duration he would be on the roster.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 01, 2015, 07:19:24 am
Not totally shocked that Saad is moved, still I felt he would be a Blackhawk . Dano looks to be Saad-like although smaller & lighter, skill set is very promising...we'll have to wait and see.Oduya is exploring free agency...heard Bickell may be heading to Boston...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 01, 2015, 07:51:41 am
I'd probably move Sharp as well, if possible.  He'll be 34, and his best days are behind him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 01, 2015, 09:24:20 am
I'd probably move Sharp as well, if possible.  He'll be 34, and his best days are behind him.
Sharp going away to seek a contract that pays him very well and carries him into retirement financially secure.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 01, 2015, 02:39:32 pm
Sharp has two years left on his deal. I wouldn't mind seeing him stay in Chicago for those two. He had a terrific year previously. He's due for a bounce-back, imo. I'd rather move Bickell and Versteeg. Incidentally, the Hawks signed Viktor Tikhonov to a 1-year deal so they are quickly becoming the Chicagov Blackhawkovs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 01, 2015, 03:31:57 pm

Chris27 won't have to 'test his allegiance' as Barret Jackman signs a two-year contract with the Nashville Predators.  So starting this fall, JR can make excuses for Jackman's dirty plays.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 01, 2015, 03:32:12 pm
The Bulls have resigned Mike Dunleavy and everything Ive read says Jimmy Butler's next.

I was wrong in Butler.

He's turned into one hell of a player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 01, 2015, 03:32:48 pm
Butler agreed to a five year max with a player opt out after the 4th year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 01, 2015, 03:35:22 pm
Best news all week AndyM, thank you.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ron on July 05, 2015, 07:57:01 pm
In case anyone who cares missed it, the US Women's National Team won the World Cup final game 5-2 against Japan.  Carli Lloyd scored 3 of those goals.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: mO on July 05, 2015, 08:02:55 pm
5-2
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ron on July 05, 2015, 08:08:30 pm
5-2

Thanks - a typo - correcting now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on July 09, 2015, 09:28:06 pm
Kenny Stabler dead ar 69
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 09, 2015, 11:20:36 pm
The Bulls have resigned Aaron Brooks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 10, 2015, 07:56:43 am
Kenny "The Snake" Stabler has died at the age of 69.R.I.P.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on July 10, 2015, 08:01:41 am
AZ has me on ignore?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 10, 2015, 08:11:44 am
AZ has me on ignore?
lol, nope just missed your post Curt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on July 10, 2015, 09:18:15 am
AZ doesn't have CurtOne on ignore?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 10, 2015, 11:44:21 am
CurtOne who?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 10, 2015, 11:54:30 am
Lol...tough crowd...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on July 10, 2015, 02:33:06 pm
The entire state of Arizona has Curt on ignore?  Wow, that's rough.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on July 10, 2015, 02:36:08 pm
Arizona has no taste
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 10, 2015, 09:11:58 pm
No one tell Chris about the Sharp trade.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 10, 2015, 09:34:09 pm
Yeah that's a horrendous deal. Hawks are punished for being successful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 11, 2015, 08:14:29 am
Guessing the Hawks had to dump salary, Sharp was a target once the cap number was announced, very sad to lose him.More moves will coming.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 11, 2015, 08:41:01 am
My hockey knowledge is limited, but it seems that including Johns is what makes it a bad deal.

The defenseman will replace Oduya for a cheaper salary, but he might not be as good?  The forward might be a 4th line guy or somebody they stash in the AHL for more cap savings?  Bickell and Versteeg might be on the way out, but their market is limited so prospects might have to be included in any trade. The defense seems to be the issue, does that sound correct?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on July 11, 2015, 11:14:23 am
CBJ - That's part of it for me.  Why include Johns?  Plus it isn't saving that much money.  Certainly not enough to bring back Kruger and Oduya at this point.  I suppose I should trust Bowman knows what he is doing.  I wished that Kane and Toewes would have taken a little less to sign. $10M each is a lot to have tied up in 2 players for the NHL.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 11, 2015, 09:12:10 pm
Kruger is must sign imo Oduya is a free agent who would likely move on if Hawks don't meet his expected number
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 11, 2015, 09:19:34 pm
Oduya has been waiting for the Hawks to clear salary for him. Problem is nobody wants Bickell and they had Bowman over a barrel for Sharp.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 14, 2015, 06:34:09 pm
Is Austin Nichols UT bound Dave?

Why else would he have wanted an unconditional release if he wasnt wanting to go to one of the restricted schools?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 14, 2015, 07:31:04 pm
Oduya not returning to Blackhawks, Dallas seems to be the frontrunner for the present.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on July 14, 2015, 08:55:18 pm
He didn't get an unconditional release. He wants to go to Virginia, but that's not happening either. UT is on the forbidden list.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on July 14, 2015, 08:58:49 pm
LOL, well, just looked on espn.com and saw the restrictions have been lifted...I just walked in the door, so I hadn't heard that.

Think Virginia is #1 on his list, followed by Duke...he does have a sister at UT, but his draft stock goes thru the roof at UVa or Duke...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 14, 2015, 08:58:55 pm
Now it is...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25241425/memphis-says-austin-nichols-is-free-to-transfer-without-restrictions
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 14, 2015, 11:05:15 pm
UT could use him and he'd be the star of the show from day 1.

We got lucky with Pearl but resume wise we've never had as good of a coach as Rick Barnes and his twin sister is at UT too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on July 15, 2015, 09:46:31 am
Good luck...Daddy appears to be calling the shots on that...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 16, 2015, 12:04:12 pm
Oduya signs with Stars
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on July 16, 2015, 12:24:22 pm
It'll be interesting to see how the Hawks respond.  It took them a full year to recover from the 2010 purge.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 17, 2015, 10:09:56 am
Losing Saad, Sharp, and to a lesser degree Oduya will present challenges for the Hawks there is no doubt, but I would think that the core group will work hard with the recent additions to play the "Hawks Way" maximizing the skill sets they bring to the ice . I anticipate a very competitive team that will challenge any team to take away Lord Stanley's Cup from them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 17, 2015, 04:57:45 pm
(http://ballertainment.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/JRW_US_CHAMPS_LLWS2014.jpg)


Jackie Robinson West Fundraiser Seeking $100,000 For Legal Fees Nets $90


http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150717/morgan-park/jackie-robinson-west-fundraiser-seeking-100000-for-legal-fees-nets-90 (http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150717/morgan-park/jackie-robinson-west-fundraiser-seeking-100000-for-legal-fees-nets-90)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 17, 2015, 05:38:38 pm
Should have had a few more car washes and spaghetti dinners.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Pistol on July 31, 2015, 10:52:56 pm
This

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on August 06, 2015, 07:15:00 pm
Patrick Kane is being investigated over alleged **** in Buffalo.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on August 06, 2015, 07:30:17 pm
by a man or woman?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on August 06, 2015, 07:39:36 pm
Woman.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 06, 2015, 08:26:24 pm
by a man or woman?

LMAO
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on August 15, 2015, 01:30:47 pm
After spending the last 7 days in Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida, I must say you folks take your SEC very serious.

Unlike the Big Ten boring crap we have here.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on August 15, 2015, 04:17:40 pm
SEC is a lifestyle. You should see Gamedays.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on August 15, 2015, 04:56:20 pm
On the beaches I thought there was going to be a turf war.

There were Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, and Florida tents and chairs everywhere.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 15, 2015, 05:09:15 pm
My wife and I are usually in Arkansas the last week in July.   All that's on tv and radio is the SEC media days and analysis of same.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 15, 2015, 05:35:11 pm
After spending the last 7 days in Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida, I must say you folks take your SEC very serious.

Unlike the Big Ten boring crap we have here.

You should live in Knoxville.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 15, 2015, 05:36:54 pm
I dont care anywhere near as much about the Cubs as I do the Big Orange.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 15, 2015, 06:03:50 pm
I dont care anywhere near as much about the Cubs as I do the Big Orange.
Well, we all knew you were a huge Head fan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on August 15, 2015, 07:54:01 pm
Buttchugging U
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on August 15, 2015, 07:55:23 pm
I think Alabama/Auburn Game day would be fun to watch in person.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Pistol on August 19, 2015, 09:36:44 am
After spending the last 7 days in Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida, I must say you folks take your SEC very serious.

Unlike the Big Ten boring crap we have here.

You should have come to GA. I would have given you the key to the city.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on August 19, 2015, 10:10:06 am
ROLL TIDE
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 19, 2015, 11:33:20 am
Im inclined to say something that will get me banned.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on August 19, 2015, 11:43:17 am
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/5c/5c9da7429ee0a5dd083abec92ad3e09ad5d51cb769537b46efebce1541f2949a.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on August 21, 2015, 07:44:16 pm
I would have given you the key to the city.

Is it safer than the south end of Peoria?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on August 25, 2015, 09:32:03 pm

(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Hockey/100929/100929-14544830Fr.jpg)

R.I.P.  Chico Maki

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-former-blackhawk-ron-chico-maki-dies-20150825-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-former-blackhawk-ron-chico-maki-dies-20150825-story.html)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Pistol on August 26, 2015, 08:34:55 pm
What the....
http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2015/08/26/derrick-rose-sued-for-gang-****
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 26, 2015, 09:45:10 pm
Damn.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 02, 2015, 08:24:41 pm
Something straight off of Lockup on MSNBC...

http://wjbf.com/2015/09/02/ex-san-francisco-49ers-running-back-lawrence-phillips-charged-with-killing-cellmate/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 05, 2015, 06:20:19 pm
Holy crap BYU won at Nebraska!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on September 05, 2015, 07:34:23 pm
What a play for BYU.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 05, 2015, 08:44:41 pm
Nebraska hasnt been relevant since Tom Osborne.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 05, 2015, 10:16:20 pm
So almost as long as Tennessee?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 05, 2015, 10:50:01 pm
I knew that was coming. Lol

We won today though.

They're pretty decent but they'll have their hands full Saturday with Oklahoma.

8-4 should be realistic.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 05, 2015, 10:52:22 pm
Tennessee was relevant when Coach Head was there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 05, 2015, 11:53:26 pm
Ive tried to turn over a new leaf but I still cant stand her.

Word is she isnt doing well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 06, 2015, 08:45:57 am
Yeah, I heard that too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 08, 2015, 04:07:06 pm
Has everybody seen the video of the high school ref getting smoked by 2 players for cheating?

LMAO

Now they're saying the coach told them to do it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 08, 2015, 04:22:39 pm
I hadn't heard the ref was cheating.  How?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 08, 2015, 04:30:10 pm
I dont know the full story.

I just saw bits and pieces on a UT board I read.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on September 08, 2015, 05:16:31 pm
I thought it was in retaliation for a bad call.  If a coach order it, sucks to be him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 08, 2015, 05:31:52 pm
I just read that one of the assistant coaches has been dismissed so there may be something to it.  The players are saying the ref was making racial slurs throughout the game.  Don't know how true that is.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 08, 2015, 07:30:53 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/08/sport/texas-football-official-hit/index.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 13, 2015, 12:50:14 am
BYU did it again.  This time at home.  Wow
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 14, 2015, 09:30:43 am
I probably should just keep my mouth shut, but I wonder if Tampa Bay has any regrets taking Winston over Mariota right now . . .
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on September 14, 2015, 09:41:04 am
Almost like Bills regretting taking FSU QB EJ Manual in 2013...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on September 14, 2015, 10:15:20 am
I probably should just keep my mouth shut, but I wonder if Tampa Bay has any regrets taking Winston over Mariota right now . . .
I probably should just keep my mouth shut, but I wonder if Tampa Bay has any regrets taking Winston over Mariota right now . . .

This city is literally melting down right now... some of the calls on the sports radio this morning made me spit my tea out on the way to work...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BullingersEars on September 14, 2015, 10:23:43 am
People need to let it work out for a bit.....

Griffin over Luck was all the rage their first year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 18, 2015, 11:46:03 am
Bulls sign Jordan Crawford.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 19, 2015, 11:05:05 pm
Hey Dave.

Although Im sure Im not taking as much joy from it as you are Im loving this Ole Miss/Bama game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 19, 2015, 11:37:27 pm
ROLL TIDE!!!!

LMMFAO
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 20, 2015, 12:16:26 pm
Hotty Toddy!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 27, 2015, 05:37:41 pm
Sad.  The best offensive weapon for the Bears is their punter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on September 27, 2015, 06:11:12 pm
It is kinda amazing to me.  I have an emotional investment with the Cubs even when they are bad. I just can't get worked up about the Bears stinking anymore. Even when I see Pete Carroll's mug on the TV, I just shrug. I have no clue why, but it happened.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on September 27, 2015, 06:18:21 pm
I can't stand to watch them anymore. I have watched like 10 minutes total of the three games this season. Today was the first day this season I have watched football all afternoon until the Bears came on then it's been Law & Order which I have never watched in my life.

Sometimes I wish they would just get rid of the franchise altogether.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on September 27, 2015, 07:03:40 pm
I watched them, but it is more that I got DirectTV and got Sunday ticket for free. I'd feel stupid to waste it.  The second 4th down conversion that the Seahawks got, if I cared about the team would have gotten something out of me. This time it was, wow that was a great play by Wilson..
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 27, 2015, 07:05:21 pm
Jordan Spieth is a pretty good golfer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on September 29, 2015, 05:45:57 pm
Rose out indefinitely after taking an elbow to the face in practice.

He should be ready to go in two years when his contract is up though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 19, 2015, 06:41:48 pm
I know it's only the preseason but the Bulls defense is a disaster so far.  33 point 1st quarter again tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on October 20, 2015, 04:52:49 pm
No one wanted Thibs anymore so this is what you get.

The offense won't be improved that much to overcome what's happening with the defense so far.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 31, 2015, 12:57:02 pm
So the Ohio State QB gets a one game suspension for drunk driving.  Good thing he didn't kill anybody or he'd have gotten two games.  Unless, of course, it was against Michigan or Michigan State, then he haven't to serve it during the spring scrimmages.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 31, 2015, 05:07:25 pm
The Pharoah!  Wow!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 03, 2015, 08:52:43 pm
This Hoiberg thing ain't gonna last long for the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 04, 2015, 07:52:26 am
It's uncharacteristic of you to be so negative.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 04, 2015, 09:01:37 am
It's uncharacteristic of you to be so negative.

Delicious and nutritious, Play.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on November 04, 2015, 09:02:42 am
Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 04, 2015, 02:59:57 pm
I should be more positive after they surrendered 130 points to a non-playoff team, play poor defense, mediocre 1-on-1 offense, and have a shot superstar PG and center.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 04, 2015, 03:01:30 pm
Is that a confession or a question?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 04, 2015, 04:06:02 pm
The Bulls are a strong team.

They're easily a 50 win team as long as Rose stays healthy.

If he dont they're still a playoff team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 04, 2015, 04:11:51 pm
You haven't watched them or Rose play thus far, have you?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 04, 2015, 11:27:28 pm
http://nesn.com/2015/11/report-the-breakup-has-begun-between-derrick-rose-chicago-bulls/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 05, 2015, 09:47:30 pm
Well sorry ass Derrick Rose and the lottery bound Bulls just improved to 4-2 with a win over the Thunder.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 05, 2015, 09:57:55 pm
Eeking out a win at home over a team playing their 4th game in 5 nights doesn't mean much, but at least they showed some backbone after the debacle Tuesday.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on November 05, 2015, 11:08:54 pm
I am curious how far Chris has to go back for his view of last good bulls team?  Jordan, pippen?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 06, 2015, 12:37:51 am
Chris must have a blazing hot wife to live up to his lofty standards.

I bet he wouldnt give a 9 the time of day.

I can hear him now... "Her ass is too round and Im not feeling those blonde highlights in her hair".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 06, 2015, 01:34:35 am
Not sure what you people are arguing. Every single statistical indicator so far, not to mention the eye test, has shown the Bulls have majors issues. The team basically didn't show up to play against Charlotte. Both Rose and Noah had been two of the worst players in the league. And the new Hoibergian offense has been more static and less productive than Thibodeau's. They'll win some games because they have some individual talent and because the East is filled with bad teams, but they are a long way from the contender they were 4-5 years ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on November 06, 2015, 09:21:29 am
I am curious how far Chris has to go back for his view of last good bulls team?  Jordan, pippen?

Are you crazy? Those teams averaged like 17 losses per year.  There is no way he'd find that acceptable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 06, 2015, 02:53:48 pm
Pointing out this team's issues certainly has something to do with the Jordan teams. Such comparable topics.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 06, 2015, 03:02:38 pm
While I agree that Chris has a mean negative streak at times, I too am concerned about the lack of defensive principles in this team.  I don't even think it has much to do with coaching but more to do with two european big men who don't give a damn about help defense. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 06, 2015, 03:23:52 pm
Mean.....lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 06, 2015, 06:15:59 pm
While I agree that Chris has a mean negative streak at times, I too am concerned about the lack of defensive principles in this team.  I don't even think it has much to do with coaching but more to do with two european big men who don't give a damn about help defense. 

Ill agree.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on November 06, 2015, 07:05:32 pm
Not sure what you people are arguing. Every single statistical indicator so far, not to mention the eye test, has shown the Bulls have majors issues. The team basically didn't show up to play against Charlotte. Both Rose and Noah had been two of the worst players in the league. And the new Hoibergian offense has been more static and less productive than Thibodeau's. They'll win some games because they have some individual talent and because the East is filled with bad teams, but they are a long way from the contender they were 4-5 years ago.

Im not sure how good this bulls team will be.  That comment really wasnt bout this team tho.  I have liked some of past rose teams Tho.  And this cubs team and a few others.  It's just hard to gauge a cubs/bull team on your comments as its pretty much same thing every year.  Literally laughed as I wondered what you would have said bout the Jordan teams so posted it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 06, 2015, 07:29:26 pm
It's just hard to gauge a cubs/bull team on your comments as its pretty much same thing every year. 

Actually, it's not the same at all. When the Bulls have been good or great, that gets acknowledged. When they are mediocre or bad, that gets acknowledged.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 07, 2015, 09:21:06 am
It's way too early to call this Bulls team mediocre or bad.  New coach, new system.  What do they look like with Dunleavy back?  I think we should give Hoiberg at least a few months before declaring this team anything.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 07, 2015, 09:33:02 am
Problem on this team is Rose and his horrible attitude. Bulls need to move on from the crystal glass.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 07, 2015, 02:01:58 pm
Basing my comments on what I've seen thus far, and also on what they looked like last year. Gasol isn't suddenly going to become a decent defender. Noah and Rose have looked like shells of their former selves for two years the times they've actually be on the court. Outside of Butler, hardly any two-way players on the roster.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 07, 2015, 07:45:11 pm
Bulls lose at home to the another bad team and become the 11th team in NBA history to go scoreless in overtime. Rose 3-13, 5 TO's.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 08, 2015, 09:51:13 pm
Why does the Blackhawks Twitter account refer to Panarin as BreadTime?  Panera?

For those watching Bulls games how has McDermott looked?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 09, 2015, 12:56:50 am
Yes, as in Panera Bread Company. It's his really awful nickname they gave him. At least he has sick skill.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on November 09, 2015, 08:55:01 am
Panarin second goal was a  fantastic wrister that I haven't witnessed in long time  and Kane's no look back handed shot was sick...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on November 09, 2015, 01:08:04 pm
Granted the Hawks don't look as good as they did last season, but Panarin sure is becoming one of my favorite players. He's playing great and will help make the loss of Sharp and the others, a little bit easier to swallow
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on November 09, 2015, 01:23:02 pm
This 'Hawks team should find its stride once the new adds and  vets chemistry becomes more balanced...Keith's return, as well as Rozival, will a definite plus...Read in the Trib that 'Hawks looking into trading for defensive talent...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 15, 2015, 12:43:01 am
Ronda Rousey just took a trip to Humble City.

And no Im not a UFC fan.

I only like the fake stuff.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 27, 2015, 09:25:53 pm
Steph Curry has 22 points on 7 shots.  How the hell does one set goals after a performance like that?

If you're down on NBA, watch a Warriors game.  It's high art.  They have so many skilled players - I think on many teams Barnes could be a star.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 27, 2015, 09:39:26 pm
Make that 27 points on 9 shots...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 27, 2015, 11:16:44 pm
Curry's PER right now would be the best of any player in NBA history. The top ten is all Jordan, James, and Chamberlain. His effective FG% would be 11th all-time in any season. The highest rated guard in that category is Steve Nash at #24.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on November 28, 2015, 11:39:51 am
My Davidson guy!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 28, 2015, 11:49:01 pm
I'm sure some of us remember the late basketball coach Bill Musselman's "Sweet Georgia Brown" pregame show from the 1970s.  His son Eric has revived the routine at Nevada-Reno.  It lasts 6:30 and is worth watching.  Be sure to go full screen.

http://bit.ly/1NBRAKK
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 02, 2015, 01:44:49 pm
Nobody seems to say much about the Bulls when they're playing well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 02, 2015, 04:58:38 pm
Let us know when that happens.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 03, 2015, 07:17:44 pm
Good for Davidson:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14284259/stephen-curry-jersey-retired-davidson-college-graduates
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 05, 2015, 05:36:33 pm
The Bulls do have the best winning % in the East at .688. It won't last because their offense is pretty bad, but some folks act like the Bulls are worse than the 76ers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 05, 2015, 09:13:54 pm
but some folks act like the Bulls are worse than the 76ers.

Nobody thinks any such thing. They're just very mediocre and no threat for a title anymore.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 07, 2015, 09:27:39 pm
Bulls blow a 16-pt lead in the 4th quarter at home to the 8-13 Suns, allowing 42 points in the process.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 07, 2015, 09:32:34 pm
Yet no one says a word when they're winning?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 07, 2015, 09:34:32 pm
You don't get the difference between their close, ugly wins and these embarrassing losses? Or do you just not care?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 01, 2016, 01:37:44 pm
I bet Northwestern will go on strike again after today for an unsafe work environment.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 04, 2016, 01:39:35 am
D. Rose to have an MRI on his knee tomorrow.

If he has blown it out again he might as well retire.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on January 04, 2016, 07:39:23 am
Like a shark in the water....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 04, 2016, 09:31:01 am
He and the Bulls say it is minor discomfort and they don't expect anything to be wrong.  We'll see I guess but I am not one to jump to conclusions just because it fits a narrative.   

Meanwhile Jimmy Butler singlehandedly won the game last for the Bulls.  Best individual performance I have seen since the Jordan years.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 04, 2016, 01:20:14 pm
The MRI was on the hammy not the knee, and it came back clean.  Getting pretty ghoulish around here.

The more interesting question is what Fred does when Noah comes back.  No way Portis can go back to the taxi squad.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 04, 2016, 01:38:26 pm
Fred has already stated that Portis will "remain in the rotation", FWIW.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 04, 2016, 01:42:05 pm
Exactly.  So how does one accomplish that when Mirotic has already been moved to SF to accommodate the bigs rotation, even with Noah out?

Not to mention that Dunleavy will be back sooner or later, at least in theory.  Seems like Noah or Gibson just about has to be salary dumped.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 04, 2016, 02:29:24 pm
What Ive read said the MRI was on a sore right knee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 04, 2016, 03:30:46 pm
It was his knee...

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14502782/chicago-bulls-point-guard-derrick-rose-no-structural-right-knee-mri-revealed
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 04, 2016, 06:26:18 pm
Quote
An MRI on Rose's hamstring Monday came back clean, and Rose is listed as day-to-day going forward, KC Johnson of the Chicago Tribune reports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 05, 2016, 03:38:36 pm
For the wrestling fans here and I know there are a few WWE just signed quite possibly the best tag team from Japan and 2 best singles stars.

For the people who dont really follow it it's a game changer.

The WWE product has gotten stale and this could be a very big injection of life for them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 05, 2016, 03:43:05 pm
New Japan is probably the 2nd best wrestling fed in the world.

If you've never seen it it's worth watching.

Hulk Hogan said he was a bigger star over there than he was here.

They draw crowds bigger than WWE and most every good wrestler in the world goes over there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on January 05, 2016, 04:59:15 pm
WWE or WWF and "sports" just do not belong together.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 09, 2016, 01:18:29 pm
If the Bulls continue to play this well, we may not see another post from Chris in this thread!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on January 09, 2016, 01:53:48 pm
With the Cubs, Hawks, and Bulls playing/looking so good, these are dark days for Chris. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 09, 2016, 03:01:51 pm
And I'm also a Warrior fan.  Times are good!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 09, 2016, 11:20:29 pm
Holy Smokes.  Talk about a bunch of undisciplined thugs losing a game tonight.  What's wrong with those Bengals?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 10, 2016, 01:07:57 am
Looks like Pacman Jones is up to his old tricks again. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 10, 2016, 08:52:20 am
I'm a firm believer in "what happens in the locker room should stay in the locker room" but I'd really like to know how those two bozos were treated by the rest of the team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on January 10, 2016, 12:18:54 pm
That was the worst loss I have ever seen.  Beyond belief.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on January 11, 2016, 02:01:09 pm
In the off-season, I root for the Vikings.  What's wrong with me?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 11, 2016, 02:29:10 pm
Well you could be a Titans fan . . .
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 11, 2016, 03:22:53 pm
So JR would have some company seeing that he's the only one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 11, 2016, 03:55:10 pm
In the off-season, I root for the Vikings.  What's wrong with me?
You might be a moran or a trader.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on January 11, 2016, 04:24:13 pm
Quote
You might be a moran or a trader.

No, the analogy there would be a Packers fan. 

Rooting for the Cubs (and not the Cardinals) is very much like rooting for the Vikings (and not the Packers), complete with heartbreaking losses (like yesterday).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 11, 2016, 04:49:22 pm
In dont unterstand...I have drain bamage.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 12, 2016, 06:17:40 pm
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14550673/vontaze-burfict-cincinnati-bengals-suspended-3-games-repeated-safety-violations

The article sounds like the coaching staff doesn't see a big problem with his actions.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 13, 2016, 12:53:50 pm
Lawrence Phillips found dead in prison cell

Former Nebraska I-back Lawrence Phillips, facing first-degree murder charges in the April death of his cellmate at Kern Valley (California) State Prison, was found dead in his prison cell Wednesday morning.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 13, 2016, 12:54:19 pm
Maybe he freaked finding out that the Rams were moving back.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 13, 2016, 12:57:45 pm
Talk about a life that went straight to hell.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 13, 2016, 01:13:08 pm
Wow, no kidding. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 13, 2016, 05:40:31 pm
LOL  One statistician figured out that Roberto Colon had a better chance at hitting an inside the park home run than anyone winning the lottery.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 13, 2016, 06:35:03 pm
But someone will win the lottery... Fatolo would need a lot of help pulling of a inside the park home run.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 14, 2016, 02:11:48 pm
My 49ers hire Chip Kelly.

I like it.

I was not feeling Hue Jackson.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 14, 2016, 02:34:31 pm
LOL  One statistician figured out that Roberto Colon had a better chance at hitting an inside the park home run than anyone winning the lottery.

Curt... looks like Colon hit 3 inside the park homers last night....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 14, 2016, 02:38:04 pm
I think the point is that if you gave Colon 371 million at-bats, he'd hit 4 inside the park HRs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 14, 2016, 03:02:56 pm
yuppers...of course, he'd be older than Methusaleh by the time he got to #4.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 14, 2016, 03:34:11 pm
Dammitt.

My wife was gonna buy me a 22 million dollar house at Wailai if she won.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 14, 2016, 03:36:15 pm
Excuse me.

It was at Oahu.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 14, 2016, 10:58:07 pm
Dusty, you better read this:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2607942-chip-kelly-and-the-49ers-are-the-worst-match-imaginable?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 15, 2016, 12:21:09 am
If all he has to do is coach he'll be fine.

They shouldnt have even needed a coach in the first place though and kept Jim Harbaugh.

What do I know though?

I like college football 1000 times more than the NFL and havent even watched 1 quarter of a game all year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 18, 2016, 01:46:28 pm
I need a new favorite NFL team.  My word, following this Titans press conference is just awful. 

Sorry for the 99% of people here who rightfully couldn't give a damn about the Titans or (also rightly) aren't aware of their existence, but I just had to vent.

It's like being a Cubs fan during the Don Grenesko/Larry Himes days.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on January 18, 2016, 01:48:28 pm
JR what happened or what was said? Titans need help for sure
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 18, 2016, 01:51:21 pm
Oh it's just a long litany of platitudes from the new GM, about finding the right people with tough character, physical players, etc, etc.

Mike Mularkey also said we should have confidence in him because he coached Kordell Stewart and Michael Turner.

And the team president said he absolutely couldn't understand why people wouldn't have confidence in their coaching search, even though they only interviewed four people for the job and one of them at least was the token "Rooney Rule" interview.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 18, 2016, 01:58:27 pm
If the coach and president have to bring up Kordell Stewart's name during the introductory press conference to try to sell the team's fan base on the coaching hire, that's not a good thing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on January 18, 2016, 02:02:38 pm
They are in sad shape. Maybe they wont wiff on their draft picks for the next few years
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 18, 2016, 02:55:46 pm
I need a new favorite NFL team.  My word, following this Titans press conference is just awful. 

Sorry for the 99% of people here who rightfully couldn't give a damn about the Titans or (also rightly) aren't aware of their existence, but I just had to vent.

It's like being a Cubs fan during the Don Grenesko/Larry Himes days.

come be a bucs fan... atleast the weather here is nicer!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on January 18, 2016, 04:08:18 pm
Maybe this will help, JR.  I got this thrown back at me when I was whining about being a Cubs/Vikings fan and the heartbreak that goes with that combo.  One word:  Cleveland.

It could always be worse.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 19, 2016, 04:14:41 pm
Antwaan Randel El apparently regrets not signing with the Cubs out of high school instead of playing pro football.

By the way, CurtOne will appreciate the quote at the end of the story.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2016/01/19/If-I-could-go-back-I-wouldn-t-play-football/stories/201601190177?utm_medium=social&utm_source=Facebook&utm_campaign=echobox&utm_term=Autofeed
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 19, 2016, 04:15:35 pm
Maybe this will help, JR.  I got this thrown back at me when I was whining about being a Cubs/Vikings fan and the heartbreak that goes with that combo.  One word:  Cleveland.

It could always be worse.

I'm not sure DMF.  The Titans look like they're on a first class ticket straight down to Browns-ville to me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 19, 2016, 04:16:49 pm
MArcus looked decent for the few starts of his i saw this year...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 19, 2016, 04:17:47 pm
Yuppers.   Take away the helmets!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 19, 2016, 04:23:22 pm
MArcus looked decent for the few starts of his i saw this year...

Marcus is by far the best thing the Titans have going for them.

When he's been out of the lineup, though, you can just see all the putridness there is on the field to support him.  Delane Walker is a good player.  Taylor Lewan is probably an average NFL left tackle, and Kendall Wright would make for a nice #3 receiver on a good team.  Dorial Green-Beckham is very raw but had his moments when he wasn't dropping passes and running bad routes.  The rest of the players on offense are flat out garbage.

And they have a few nice pieces on defense.   
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on January 24, 2016, 08:58:40 pm
Carolina Panthers beat down of Arizona Cardinals was very entertaining game..... The Panthers  owned both sides of the football...49-15
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 24, 2016, 10:34:43 pm
I'm hearing that the Patriots are bitching about the balls being over-inflated.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 29, 2016, 05:30:00 pm
Ole Miss is about to get the NCAA to come down on them, least surprising news ever.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 29, 2016, 05:46:48 pm
Dave's gonna ban you.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 29, 2016, 06:41:10 pm
I mean you could say that about almost every team in college football, but it is especially true in the $EC.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 29, 2016, 07:08:58 pm
I would expect that from a non SEC fan.

Its the 9th best football division in America.

Right behind the 8 divisions in the NFL.

The mid 4 teams in the SEC would win most conferences year in and year out.

Ole Miss has beaten Alabama 2 years in a row when damn near nobody else could.

Northwestern was supposed to be a top 15 team and Tennessee who was probably the 6th best team in the SEC beat them like a high school team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on January 29, 2016, 07:54:43 pm
More smoke than fire...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 30, 2016, 12:22:50 am
The mid 4 teams in the SEC would win most conferences year in and year out.

Tennessee wouldn't have won the Pac 10, Big 10, Big 12 or ACC any time in the last 10 years. Alabama is the best team in the nation and will remain the gold standard until Saban retires. The rest of the SEC is a fine conference, but they are not elite teams from top to bottom.

A fun Google search is Laquan Treadwell recruiting pictures. I highly doubt a poor kid from Chicago is bringing stacks of $100 bills on a recruiting trip. The list of colleges that aren't paying football players is under 10 teams long.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on January 30, 2016, 12:39:09 am
It has been that way for at least 30 years, and I'm sure it has been longer than that...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 30, 2016, 12:42:23 am
Butch Jones aint cheating.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 30, 2016, 07:57:51 am
Butch isn't directly paying players, but boosters are.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 30, 2016, 11:21:20 am
When i was in high school I moved form Alonso to River Ridge my Junior year... there was a Star two sport athlete named TJ Tucker.

TJ played Baseball and TE/Kicker on the FB team. UF wanted him as a kicker. TJ was a really nice guy, they had a lot unfortunately events happen to their family... he lost his brother in a car accident during HS, Junior year his car was stolen and burned by some idiots, his family wasnt exactly very well off, his dad ran a Landscaping firm.

TJ goes to UF for an official visit, and comes back to school on Monday with a brand spanking new 1998 Mustang GT in blue, with orange and blue leather interior... he "leased" the car himself was the story back then... there is no way he managed to afford that car on his own.

TJ was subsequently drafted 47th overall by the Expos... he went on to be a BP arm for them for a few years... and turned the lease for his mustang, magically ended shortly after he signed his contract with the Expos.

Point of the story is... they have been doing this stuff forever... back then players didnt get paid as they do now... so if they got a few perks for putting their bodies on the line... so be it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 03, 2016, 08:54:22 pm
Steph Curry has 41 points on 20 shots so far tonight.  I'd have to check, but I think that's good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on February 04, 2016, 02:18:52 pm
I don't really like basketball, but I don't know of any athlete in any sport that's as much fun to watch as Curry.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 04, 2016, 02:23:02 pm
On the Fangraphs podcast they discussed the difference in value of stars in baseball and basketball.  To get the effect that Lebron has on the Cavs a similar baseball player would be worth 40 WAR.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 05, 2016, 11:13:40 pm
The Bulls are an utter disaster. They may have lost Jimmy Butler for a long period, perhaps the season after he left on a stretcher. Gasol and Mirotic were already out to go along with Noah and Dunleavy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 06, 2016, 11:09:54 am
They weren't all that great when healthy!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 07, 2016, 10:57:25 pm
Does Trent Dilder always wear the Super Bowl ring on post game shows or is it only a Super a Bowl thing to rub it in the face of Cris Carter?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on February 08, 2016, 12:53:59 pm
Wouldn't you wear the ring if you were Dilfer?  Dilfer was a mediocre-at-best QB who was in the right place at the right time for Baltimore's killer defense, kinda like Peyton yesterday.  Chris Carter is in the Hall of Fame.  I can still hear Carter's post-game Agony of Defeat sobs post-NFC championship game, but I have to think, if he had to pick, he'd take the Hall of Fame over a Superbowl win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 08, 2016, 01:28:31 pm
I'd wear it every day.  I don't watch a ton of ESPN NFL shows, but I don't remember him wearing it when I did.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 12, 2016, 08:41:12 pm
Stinging analysis of Bulls' management:

http://www.blogabull.com/2016/2/11/10968770/the-worst-front-office-in-the-nba-the-chicago-bulls
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 13, 2016, 03:44:03 pm
If you haven't seen them yet, flip on the Pebble Beach pro-am for a minute (CBS) and check out Bill Murray's pants...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 13, 2016, 10:44:40 pm
Thanks Dave, that was pretty outstanding.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on February 16, 2016, 06:47:36 am
If you haven't seen them yet, flip on the Pebble Beach pro-am for a minute (CBS) and check out Bill Murray's pants...

They're only $130.00
(http://mlb.mlb.com/assets/images/8/7/0/164443870/cuts/murraypants_wezf5o8o_i2r334of.jpg)


http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/7/71/1328525/bill-murray-wore-argyle-cubs-pants-golf-tournament
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 16, 2016, 11:27:08 am
Only?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 16, 2016, 11:59:58 am
I'm not sure where they got the $130 price tag?

They're $99.50 on loudmouthgolf.com
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on February 16, 2016, 12:09:02 pm
It looks like $99.50 is the "off the shelf" price and $130.00 is with alterations.  They are side-by-side if you click on the link.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 16, 2016, 07:51:25 pm
It looks like $99.50 is the "off the shelf" price and $130.00 is with alterations.  They are side-by-side if you click on the link.
I want one with Cardinals all around the fly.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 25, 2016, 08:44:44 pm
Blackhawks traded for Andrew Ladd for Dano, 1st round pick and a conditional 2018 3rd round pick (winning Stanley cup). The Leafs (?) retained salary on Ladd.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on February 25, 2016, 09:45:33 pm
Seems like a steep price for a rental.  I'm not real happy about that trade.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 25, 2016, 10:32:47 pm
It is a steep price. Winning a cup would make it worth it though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 25, 2016, 10:50:52 pm
Blackhawks are working for a trade on a defenseman that starts with H from Vancouver. He is supposed to be older, no clue on how good he is. I've learned I like playoff hockey, even though I don't understand a lot about it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 25, 2016, 11:13:51 pm
^^ Dan Hamhuis. Been around forever. Not what he was but would be a decent 6th or 7th guy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on February 26, 2016, 01:18:59 pm
Its a steep price to pay for sure, but if it helps get us another Cup, i'm ok with it. At some point, we are going to have to restock our prospects
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 26, 2016, 09:33:52 pm
Just realized the Bulls traded Kirk Hinrich a week ago. Had assumed he was still hurt or benched.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 27, 2016, 07:45:00 am
They got Justin Holiday who I liked quite a bit when he was a Warrior.  Don't know how much he has played, but he should be a good fit for Hoiberg's system.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 27, 2016, 10:27:09 pm
This Curry guy ain't bad.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 27, 2016, 11:29:05 pm
Kinda ridiculous, actually. Like some sort of human/robot hybrid.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on February 28, 2016, 01:14:01 am
Most entertaining athlete in sports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 28, 2016, 06:55:47 am
The Big O knows how to stop him though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 26, 2016, 07:04:40 pm
This Bulls team is about as dysfunctional as the Tim Floyd ones. But that team had little talent.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on March 26, 2016, 08:18:40 pm
They're  on vacation already.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 02, 2016, 10:51:30 pm
Jigs, I haven't watched this yet, but could you watch this and tell me how good this is?

http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/villanova-oklahoma-highlights-as-called-by-jim-ross-cl-1768727036
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 03, 2016, 10:22:25 am
I liked it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 08, 2016, 02:58:11 am
Gotta love this Tyler Summitt story.

Easily the most pleasure Ill get out of sports all year short of the Cubs winning the WS or my Big Orange winning a national title.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 08, 2016, 12:00:51 pm
Poor ol Tyler Summitt.

I guess the bright side is Pat will only give him hell about it for a few minutes before she forgets what she was talking about.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 08, 2016, 12:01:38 pm
Keep it classy, as usual.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on April 08, 2016, 12:43:40 pm
It took me a google to figure out who Tyler Summit is.  What a mess and why would a college hire a 25 year old to coach a women's team, even if his mom was a great coach.

As somebody who's grandparents have dementia, the Pat Summit joke was in poor taste.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 08, 2016, 12:46:00 pm
My great grandfather had it.

I was just playing.

I meant no harm.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 08, 2016, 02:06:08 pm
It took me a google to figure out who Tyler Summit is.  What a mess and why would a college hire a 25 year old to coach a women's team, even if his mom was a great coach.

Yeah and Louisiana Tech's women's program ought to be prestigious enough where they shouldn't resort to making a publicity/nepotism hire like that.  It seems like Tech's athletic director ought to get the axe for that one too.

Word is he impregnated one of his players.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 09, 2016, 05:54:16 pm
Jordan Spieth is pretty good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 09, 2016, 10:31:03 pm
How about Langer?  Amazing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 10, 2016, 09:43:55 am
Unless Jordan Spieth hits more fairways, his magic putter won't be enough this afternoon.
Smylie Kaufman will find out what pressure really is when he hits Amen Corner.
Age will catch up with Bernhard Langer.
Dustin Johnson's string of not coming through on Sunday in the majors will continue.
Rory McIlroy's game is too out of whack for him to have a chance.

Jason Day will win in a playoff over Hideki Matsuyama.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 10, 2016, 10:00:24 am
I'd put my money on Spieth.  I doubt he'll be so erratic today from the tee today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 10, 2016, 10:14:00 am
I'd put my money on Spieth.  I doubt he'll be so erratic today from the tee today.
I'd be happy if you are right, but I think Jordan and his caddy are overanalyzing every shot right now.  To borrow a baseball expression, sometimes "see the ball, hit the ball" is the way to go.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 10, 2016, 11:32:46 am
I was surprised how often he hit good solid fairway shots after appearing indecisive.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on April 10, 2016, 11:41:54 am
He's not indecisive just ridiculously slow.  The pace of play on the PGA Tour is awful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 10, 2016, 02:03:33 pm
Tiger Woods had an interview with Time magazine, and he talked about the friendship he's developed with Jason Day.  Day called out to him about a year ago about how to improve his mental approach in majors, and one of the things Tiger said is you have to treat every single shot as the most important one you'll hit (or something to that effect).

I imagine that kind of approach is a big part of why Speith and Day have separated themselves from the pack in the last year or so.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 10, 2016, 07:12:15 pm
Speith should have focused a little harder.

+4's are hard to overcome on Sundays in a major.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 10, 2016, 07:23:51 pm
Yep, indeed they are.  Really shocking how he blew it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 12, 2016, 08:53:24 am
The NCAA finally gets something right.

With Austin, Charleston, and Myrtle Beach all seeking new football bowl games, the NCAA said no more for at least three years.  Better late than never I guess.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 17, 2016, 03:23:36 pm
Are you a big Tubby Smith supporter now Dave?

I honestly thought they'd go after Bruce Pearl.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on April 17, 2016, 04:03:09 pm
Tubby was a solid choice for where they are as a program right now. He can get them back to being a tournament team with an occasional good run in the tourney.

Hopefully his successor can take them to the next level, unlike Pastner...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 17, 2016, 04:16:33 pm
If Tubby can keep the talent in Memphis, he'll do a good job coaching them up. 

I'm sure with some of the NCAA violations Memphis has had over the years, they wanted to steer clear of someone like Pearl.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 17, 2016, 04:34:02 pm
They say that's the key to winning at UT.

Getting the Memphis kids.

Of course since Rick Barnes has been here he has recruited like he was at Belmont.

If there was a 5* kid in Knoxville I doubt he'd even call him.

If you're not a 3* wing he dont want you.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 20, 2016, 04:38:46 pm
Thibodeau about to get the job with full control in Minnesota. Tons of talent to work with. Might have a better record than the Bulls next year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on April 21, 2016, 08:12:38 pm
Will the Houston Rockets tonight become the first team in NBA history to lose a game by 100 or more points?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on April 21, 2016, 08:37:45 pm
Has there ever been a worse NBA playoff team than this current Memphis Grizzlies squad?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 22, 2016, 09:59:45 am
Hawks still playing hockey after Kane's 2nd OT wrap around goal for 4-3 win!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 22, 2016, 10:48:23 am
Was that really a wrap around?  I thought that was when you carry the puck around the back of the net and score from the other side.  Kane skated around the back of the net without the puck then reached the puck on the other side and put it home.

Not that it matters.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on April 22, 2016, 01:11:30 pm
Was that really a wrap around?  I thought that was when you carry the puck around the back of the net and score from the other side.  Kane skated around the back of the net without the puck then reached the puck on the other side and put it home.

Not that it matters.
Let Jes answer this one
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 22, 2016, 01:36:58 pm
I called it a wrap around...Kane swept around the goal after his shot was stopped he then put the loose puck into the basket.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 22, 2016, 02:05:11 pm
Whatever one calls it, I'm glad he pulled it off!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 22, 2016, 10:40:22 pm
Whatever one calls it, I'm glad he pulled it off!
  correct
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on May 14, 2016, 07:22:59 pm
For Dusty

Former wrestler Jimmy ‘Superfly’ Snuka shouldn’t be tried for killing his girlfriend because repeated hits to head have left him a ‘shell of a man’

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/jimmy-superfly-snuka-shell-man-due-hits-head-article-1.2636521 (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/jimmy-superfly-snuka-shell-man-due-hits-head-article-1.2636521)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 14, 2016, 08:21:09 pm
Ive often told people I have a PhD in pro wrestling because Ive loved and followed it for so long but without reading the story he apparently did this 20+ years ago and Ive watched several interviews about it.

Im not really sure why they decided to try Super Fly now when the man is probably damn near dead.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 14, 2016, 08:26:11 pm
The murder happened 33 years ago and Snuka is 73 years old now.

Meeting the number of wrestlers Ive been lucky enough to have met and I can honestly say Ive met damn near all of them of any significance Im sure his brain's fried at that age.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on May 14, 2016, 09:05:52 pm
The murder happened 33 years ago and Snuka is 73 years old now.

Meeting the number of wrestlers Ive been lucky enough to have met and I can honestly say Ive met damn near all of them of any significance Im sure his brain's fried at that age.

Many of those in prison for murder have brains which are fried.  For some reason murder is still considered a crime if the killer's brain is "fried," so long as he knew what he was doing at the time and intended what he did.  *IF* he is not now mentally competent to stand trial because he does not comprehend the charges against him and is not able to assist his defense attorney on defending against the charges, the prosecution should not be allowed to go forward, but that hurdle is fairly high.

From the link: Prosecutors assert Snuka is well enough to stand trial. During cross-examination, they played a video that showed him in the ring as recently as last year — even doing his trademark move, the Superfly Splash, albeit from the second turnbuckle instead of the top.  Another video showed him giving an interview recently in which he appeared lucid and in character.

That last sentence indicates his attorneys are likely to have real problems with the competency argument.  Trial judges are well aware of the fact that more than a few defendants have been known to fake incompetence.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 24, 2016, 11:53:14 pm
It warms my heart to see Golden State getting humbled.

Best team ever my ass.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dihard on May 27, 2016, 02:40:14 pm
http://www.si.com/vault/2009/03/23/105789480/how-and-why-athletes-go-broke?utm_source=pocket&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pockethits 

Interesting article on how many pro athletes end up broke within a year or two of retirement. 

• By the time they have been retired for two years, 78% of former NFL players have gone bankrupt or are under financial stress because of joblessness or divorce.

• Within five years of retirement, an estimated 60% of former NBA players are broke.

• Numerous retired MLB players have been similarly ruined, and the current economic crisis is taking a toll on some active players as well. Last month 10 current and former big leaguers--including outfielders Johnny Damon of the Yankees and Jacoby Ellsbury of the Red Sox and pitchers Mike Pelfrey of the Mets and Scott Eyre of the Phillies--discovered that at least some of their money is tied up in the $8 billion fraud allegedly perpetrated by Texas financier Robert Allen Stanford. Pelfrey told the New York Post that 99% of his fortune is frozen; Eyre admitted last month that he was broke, and the team quickly agreed to advance a portion of his $2 million salary.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 27, 2016, 03:43:36 pm
If your daughter is the playmate of the month...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 30, 2016, 12:51:07 pm
http://www.si.com/vault/2009/03/23/105789480/how-and-why-athletes-go-broke?utm_source=pocket&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pockethits 

Interesting article on how many pro athletes end up broke within a year or two of retirement. 

• By the time they have been retired for two years, 78% of former NFL players have gone bankrupt or are under financial stress because of joblessness or divorce.

• Within five years of retirement, an estimated 60% of former NBA players are broke.

• Numerous retired MLB players have been similarly ruined, and the current economic crisis is taking a toll on some active players as well. Last month 10 current and former big leaguers--including outfielders Johnny Damon of the Yankees and Jacoby Ellsbury of the Red Sox and pitchers Mike Pelfrey of the Mets and Scott Eyre of the Phillies--discovered that at least some of their money is tied up in the $8 billion fraud allegedly perpetrated by Texas financier Robert Allen Stanford. Pelfrey told the New York Post that 99% of his fortune is frozen; Eyre admitted last month that he was broke, and the team quickly agreed to advance a portion of his $2 million salary.

This article is from March 2009.  Not saying it isn't informative or even relevant today but what made you wait over 7 years to post it? ;D

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 01, 2016, 04:53:25 pm
SuperFly Jimmy Snuka declared not competent to stand trial.

Good.

That man is no more of a threat to society than my basset hound Fred.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 03, 2016, 11:11:54 pm
Legendary sports figure and arguably the most famous boxer of all-time Muhammad Ali is in 'grave condition' according to sources at a Phoenix-area hospital. The 74-year old Ali was hospitalized yesterday, but on Friday his family joined him, as his condition was not improving. Ali has battled Parkinson's Disease for decades.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 03, 2016, 11:50:54 pm
He's gone.

Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2016, 12:44:56 am
Arguably?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 04, 2016, 01:40:01 am
I just copied and pasted it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 05, 2016, 12:11:36 pm
http://rare.us/story/how-the-trash-talking-muhammad-ali-we-loved-got-his-personality-from-an-old-pro-wrestler/

"I studied Gorgeous George and began doing his act better than he did it.”
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 07, 2016, 01:30:01 am
We've lost another ass whooping icon and this one way too soon.

Kimbo Slice has went to be with the Lord.

He was only 42.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 10, 2016, 10:19:09 am
(http://www.canadianhockeycards.com/images/Howe7172OPC262.jpg)


R.I.P.  Mr. Hockey -- Gordie Howe dead at 88 years old:

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2016/06/10/gordie-howe-dies/85688864/

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 22, 2016, 02:35:01 pm
Bulls just traded Rose to the Knicks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 22, 2016, 02:36:17 pm
What is the return?

I guess this means they are all in on the Durant train.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2016, 03:10:37 pm
Straight salary dump (those are the only trades GarPax ever seems to make).  Calderon, Jerian Grant and Robin Lopez (who's actually a decent role-player on a decent team).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 22, 2016, 03:17:14 pm
Shows just how low Rose's value has dipped.  Although I will always root for the kid it was probably time to move on.  In fact, I think the Bulls should try to lasso Wiggins from Minn for Butler and do a true rebuild.  Suck for 3 years while Lebron ages and be ready with a good young nucleus.  Unfortunately the guys making the decisions have no clue how to win in the new NBA.  They still think slow high character guys are all the rage. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2016, 03:42:39 pm
I would take Wiggins and the #5 for Butler in a heartbeat.  But I don't think Minnesota would offer it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 22, 2016, 05:01:58 pm
It was probably time to move on from Rose while he's healthy.

He was a true homegrown stud but unfortunately I dont think he's ever gonna be that D. Rose again.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 22, 2016, 05:11:53 pm
Curt or whoever else cares...

Im going to a Ring Of Honor PPV in Charlotte Friday night and Saturday Im going to a wrestling convention to see Ricky Steamboat, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, and the limousine ridin, jet flyin, rolex wearin, kiss stealin, wheelin, dealin, 16 time world heavyweight champion and the greatest heel of all time The Nature Boy Ric Flair.

It'll be a good weekend.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 22, 2016, 10:48:00 pm
Have fun, Dusty.  Get me an autograph or two.

Who's big in ROH these days?  I catch them on tv here occasionally but not recently.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 22, 2016, 10:51:29 pm
Why don't the Bulls trade Butler and rebuild?  They seem to be caught in the too good to suck, to bad to compete.  Grant seems to fit what Hoiberg wants to do a lot better than the triangle, so he might surprise.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 22, 2016, 11:28:08 pm
For Dusty  http://pwinsider.com/article/102905/two-stars-departing-ring-of-honor.html?p=1
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 23, 2016, 03:02:13 am
Curt...

Jim Ross said if you want to make it to WWE you need to focus on making it to ROH first.

Its just a stepping stone. These guys are by no means rich.

They're just trying to make it to the big time.

Most all of WWE's good young guys were signed from ROH (Bryan, Rollins, Cesaro, Styles, Punk, Steen, Zayn, Anderson, Gallows).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 23, 2016, 08:10:46 pm
Wow - Denzel Valentine?  The Bulls organization really has become a sad joke.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2016, 08:11:33 pm
Been that way for a while. Valentine will replace Butler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 23, 2016, 09:57:30 pm
Why don't the Bulls trade Butler and rebuild?  They seem to be caught in the too good to suck, to bad to compete.

Have you not caught onto the pattern for a reinsdorf team yet?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on June 24, 2016, 06:02:31 pm
Curt or whoever else cares...

Im going to a Ring Of Honor PPV in Charlotte Friday night and Saturday Im going to a wrestling convention to see Ricky Steamboat, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, and the limousine ridin, jet flyin, rolex wearin, kiss stealin, wheelin, dealin, 16 time world heavyweight champion and the greatest heel of all time The Nature Boy Ric Flair.

It'll be a good weekend.

My 5 year old would be insanely jealous.  Big Cena fan.  I've tried explaining to him the unique "art" of professional wrestling, but he still takes things personally when something he doesn't like happens.  So funny. Gets from his mom tho, not me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 25, 2016, 12:59:52 am
I was exactly the same way when I was a kid.

I remember crying a few times over outcomes I didnt like.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2016, 12:39:27 am
Word from the UT boards is that it's not looking good for Pat Summitt and that she likely wont make it through the night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2016, 05:20:49 pm
I have a guilty conscience so I must say this.

As a Christian man Im not allowed to hate anyone and I honestly dont.

As a sports fan we use that word freely even though we dont really have a reason to hate them.

Now to the point at hand.

I dont really hate Pat Summitt and as you may imagine east Tennessee is abuzz with talk about her as we speak.

I said a prayer for her and her family last night and one person after another today has said they expected me to say awful things about her and I havent.

I guess you get the hint.

Word is she's in her final hours.

God bless her and her family.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on June 26, 2016, 07:32:29 pm
I bet that prayer made a big difference.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 26, 2016, 07:41:31 pm
I bet that prayer made a big difference.

It made DUSTY feel better about himself.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2016, 08:12:10 pm
Looks like I SHOULD pray for you two as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 26, 2016, 08:22:32 pm
Looks like I SHOULD pray for you two as well.

Yeah, you could hope it would be as effective.  Go right ahead and try.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2016, 08:26:12 pm
Not quite.

Whatever fate you get handed Im sure you'll deserve every bit of.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 26, 2016, 08:30:05 pm
I don't know, DUSTY, I don't think I have deserved encountering you here.... and yet it happened.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2016, 08:36:25 pm
Me and MOST everyone here feel exactly the same way about you.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on June 26, 2016, 08:47:25 pm
Not quite.

Whatever fate you get handed Im sure you'll deserve every bit of.

Our fates are all the same. No prayers will ever change that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2016, 08:56:32 pm
We will have to agree to disagree.

Im not a bible thumper in any sense of the word but I am a Christian man that holds his beliefs very close to him and no one will change that.

Ive found that most people who dont believe only dont because they have too much pride to humble themselves to something yet when things get bad they're quick to turn to prayer.

If you're tough enough to get through life without it you're tougher than I am and Im not one bit ashamed to admit it.

And Jes you're a lost cause that Im smart enough to ignore.

I give up.

You win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on June 26, 2016, 09:04:58 pm
Whatever, I'm not interested in changing your beliefs. Just don't look too closely at them if you want to keep them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 26, 2016, 09:20:56 pm
Im not a bible thumper in any sense of the word but I am a Christian man that holds his beliefs very close to him and no one will change that.

"My mind is made up.  Don't confuse me with the facts."  The immortal Charles Sandman.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 26, 2016, 11:46:00 pm
Dusty you keep on praying.  Many here other than these two believe there is a God on the other end listening. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 27, 2016, 12:06:37 am
Thanks Robb and I have every intention to.

You're a good man.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 27, 2016, 12:53:40 am
Wrong board
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on June 27, 2016, 12:05:41 pm
It made DUSTY feel better about himself.
I'm praying for the clients that Jes purposely screwed over
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 27, 2016, 03:42:50 pm
He was attacked here so I make no apologies.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 27, 2016, 05:05:27 pm
http://tennessee.247sports.com/Bolt/Pastor-says-Summitts-death-imminent-46004325
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 27, 2016, 07:38:01 pm
He was attacked here so I make no apologies.

Except there was no attack.

I'm praying for the clients that Jes purposely screwed over

And no clients were purposely screwed over, but when your mind is made up, don't let yourself be confused with the facts.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 27, 2016, 08:51:53 pm
What you and I call an attack is far different.  And I refuse to get into a definition war with you so drop it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 27, 2016, 09:08:10 pm
http://tennessee.247sports.com/Bolt/Pastor-says-Summitts-death-imminent-46004325

DUSTY's prayers are answered.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 27, 2016, 09:45:34 pm
Seriously guys, take it outside.  None of this has anything to do with sports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 27, 2016, 10:06:31 pm
God bless you Jes.

You're back on ignore and Ill never respond to you again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 28, 2016, 07:09:59 am
God bless you Jes.

You're back on ignore and Ill never respond to you again.

Never respond again?  There is a god!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 28, 2016, 09:05:33 am
Seriously guys, take it outside.  None of this has anything to do with sports.
Amen
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 28, 2016, 09:49:25 am
She's dead.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 03, 2016, 08:01:42 pm
The Bulls are now run like the Sacramento Kings.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 03, 2016, 08:47:02 pm
What a stupid signing
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 04, 2016, 01:53:11 am
Not feeling Rajon Rondo?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on July 05, 2016, 12:14:49 pm
I would rather have Pau at $15M per instead of Rondo at close to the same amount...POOR move by the bulls
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 06, 2016, 08:19:12 pm
Bulls sign Dwyane Wade.

3/73

I like it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 06, 2016, 08:41:48 pm
Bulls should be able to grab that 6th seed in the East now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 06, 2016, 08:42:23 pm
This seems like an excellent plan to be competitive for the 8th playoff spot. This Bulls team makes very little sense.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 06, 2016, 08:56:16 pm
Supposedly this is part of a grand scheme to lure Westbrook next offseason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 06, 2016, 09:12:09 pm
I'm sure this'll keep him out of LA.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 06, 2016, 09:19:33 pm
I'm now hearing 2/47, which wouldn't be such a bad contract.  We'll see what it turns out to be.

I don't think there's any doubt the recruit pitch next summer is a big part of this for the Bulls - Wade is tight with Paul and Griffin too.  That, and selling out again with a .500 team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 06, 2016, 09:41:14 pm
Calderon to the Lakers. Dunleavy to the Cavs. Will the Bulls have to include picks to unload them?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 06, 2016, 09:43:17 pm
Dunleavy is certainly worth $4.8m to a contender.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 06, 2016, 09:57:29 pm
K.C. Johnson ‏@KCJHoop  2m2 minutes ago
Bulls gave up no picks in either of the Dunleavy or Calderon trades, per source.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 06, 2016, 10:45:58 pm
I'm not sure exactly what the Bulls are doing, but at least they'll be watchable this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 06, 2016, 10:56:24 pm
Agree Robb.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on July 06, 2016, 11:27:24 pm
This is a move with an eye towards 2017.  I think the hope is GS wins the title.  Lebron leaves CLE and joins Wade and Butler in CHI with room for one more max Fa to battle Golden States core four.  Wade can be a good recruiter for FA.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 18, 2016, 11:47:35 pm
Well, that was certainly the most exciting game the Bulls played all season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 19, 2016, 08:05:51 am
Valentine didn't have much going and said his legs were dead tired after playing 7 games in 10 nights but what a clutch performance.  He hit the two biggest shots of the night.  I like the kid.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 19, 2016, 10:01:45 am
I have issues with selecting the least athletic wing in the draft on a team desperately in need of athleticism.  And the fact that Valentine no-showed the first half of nearly every game against weak competition is worrying.  But he should develop into a decent role player.  He does have good court vision and he's clearly got no fear.

Dinwiddie is a guy that impressed me.  He has a chance.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 19, 2016, 10:42:43 am
I too wish they had gone more athletic but Paxson doesn't draft that way.  He wasn't so he thinks that's the route to go. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on August 13, 2016, 05:56:16 pm
Shelley Smith ‏@ShelleyESPN  3h3 hours ago
The NFL has officially arrived in LA!! http://es.pn/2b20ZwT (http://es.pn/2b20ZwT)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpxA6BLUMAEVgb9.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 01, 2016, 08:48:45 pm
Is Tennessee really losing by 10 to Appalachian State?  In the 3rd quarter?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 01, 2016, 09:02:36 pm
Best team in the country every August...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 02, 2016, 11:56:11 am
I knew this was coming.

Lol

Ugliest win in UT history.

Like I told Dave a couple days ago they'll go as far as any team with a QB who cant throw.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 02, 2016, 12:22:10 pm
It's not just him...your O-line and D-line both suck...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 02, 2016, 01:27:09 pm
They looked unmotivated.

I thought the "D" did about as well as expected but the TOs and a totally inept offense made it a dogfight.

Remember that Ive never predicted any championships for this squad.

I could see them losing 4 games.

That's not a top 10 team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on September 10, 2016, 08:03:00 pm
Lyle Butch Jones isn't going to last long
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 24, 2016, 08:08:44 pm
Bout...damn...time.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on September 25, 2016, 09:42:15 pm

R.I.P.  "The King"


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/26/sports/golf/arnold-palmer-dies-at-87.html

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 26, 2016, 12:08:06 am
One reason why Arnold Palmer was known as "The King":  Everyone who ever wrote a fan letter to him received a personal reply.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on September 26, 2016, 01:07:16 am
That's almost surely urban folklore, but there's no question he was as good with his fans as any athlete in the modern era.  There have been many better golfers, but Arnie was the one that made golf the worldwide success it became.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 26, 2016, 02:33:01 am
Rest in peace Arnie.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 26, 2016, 08:38:22 am
That's almost surely urban folklore, but there's no question he was as good with his fans as any athlete in the modern era.  There have been many better golfers, but Arnie was the one that made golf the worldwide success it became.
Watch the three part series on Arnie's life that I'm sure Golf Channel will show again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 30, 2016, 11:51:20 am
The Americans have swept the Euros in the Ryder Cup Friday morning foursome matches 4-0. 

I can't imagine how they could allow any more fans onto Hazeltine National.  Even if you are not much of a golf fan, you should tune in to see some of the competition and listen to the crowds.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 02, 2016, 03:11:41 pm
Patrick Reed.  Wow!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 14, 2016, 08:46:14 pm
Looks like Bettman's salary cap has finally turned the Blackhawks into a subpar team. Congrats, Gary.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 15, 2016, 04:47:47 am
It's a bit early to make a judgment about the B'Hawks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 15, 2016, 05:42:49 am
Nope. Just watch them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 15, 2016, 09:09:21 am
I have.  They haven't been that bad.  Those were two tough opponents.  The Hawks probably would have beaten the Blues were it not for the penalties to the veterans.  The youngsters (particularly Motte, Hartman, and Forsling) have played pretty well.  The penalty kill needs to improve, but I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Post by: Chris27 on October 15, 2016, 02:15:12 pm
I have.  They haven't been that bad.  Those were two tough opponents.  The Hawks probably would have beaten the Blues were it not for the penalties to the veterans.  The youngsters (particularly Motte, Hartman, and Forsling) have played pretty well.  The penalty kill needs to improve, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

They've looked bad. Have generated no offense whatsoever. Their Corsi numbers have been frightening. Fact is, they've lost a ton over the last two years and had to replace it with average players or rookies. Not a recipe for success.
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Post by: goblue007 on October 15, 2016, 02:30:49 pm
Fortunately they've had a ton of that
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Post by: Playtwo on October 15, 2016, 03:39:54 pm
They have looked bad.  Doesn't mean that they will be bad.
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Post by: guest61 on October 16, 2016, 01:32:42 am
Bulls bout to trade Tony Snell for Michael Carter Williams.

They're gonna be better than people think.
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Post by: Deeg on October 16, 2016, 09:25:55 am
MCW is a better player than Snell for sure, but another guy who's a good player and bad fit. He's a guy who needs the ball and can't shoot from distance, and we already have a bunch of those.
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Post by: guest61 on October 20, 2016, 09:01:35 pm
Quick question from a weekend hacker golfer.

I had a Cobra ss350 offset driver that I could hit a ton and hit straight.

I decided I wanted to upgrade and bought a Cobra Bio Cell.

The Bio Cell is adjustable and has a draw setting.

If I set it to the draw setting is that the same as it being offset?
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Post by: AZSteve on October 21, 2016, 08:32:04 am
Quick question from a weekend hacker golfer.

I had a Cobra ss350 offset driver that I could hit a ton and hit straight.

I decided I wanted to upgrade and bought a Cobra Bio Cell.

The Bio Cell is adjustable and has a draw setting.

If I set it to the draw setting is that the same as it being offset?
Hope this helps Dusty
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Post by: guest61 on October 21, 2016, 09:02:58 am
What helps?
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Post by: JBN on October 29, 2016, 08:58:04 pm
It's only the 2nd game of the season. But the Bulls have looked better without Rose and Noah on the court.

They are crushing the Pacers.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 04, 2016, 11:35:38 pm
The Bulls not only managed to get clobbered at home by the hapless Knicks, they made Rose and Noah look great in the process.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 05, 2016, 09:51:08 am
The Bulls have been up and down so far.  I'm guessing they'll sneak into the playoffs, but it's far from a certainty.  Some of the bench players have played well in stretches.  If that becomes more consistent, they could have a pretty decent year and be entertaining.  If not, ..........
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Post by: Chris27 on November 05, 2016, 02:49:36 pm
If they can't get into the playoffs in the East....
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Post by: grrrrlacher on November 05, 2016, 04:18:06 pm
Now that the Cubs are done for the year I can turn my attention to the Blackhawks.  After a rough start and truly awful PK, they are back on top of their division.  Looking better.
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Post by: AZSteve on November 05, 2016, 07:47:00 pm
Yeah it appears they have overcome the shakey start...Definitely Blackhawks all the way for me as well
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Post by: Chris27 on November 05, 2016, 08:03:01 pm
Bulls are not good to put it kindly. Hawks maybe above average. Their results have far exceeded their level of play so far. Very little depth or speed anymore.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 05, 2016, 08:09:47 pm
I'd say the B'Hawks have excellent depth defensively.  They are short up front and relying on the progress of their young forwards.  It's too early to make a judgment about how that's likely to turn out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 05, 2016, 10:03:45 pm
The puck control and shot attempt numbers are dreadful and the Hawks have played one of the easiest schedules so far. Haven't seen much that indicates long-term success.
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Post by: Ray on November 05, 2016, 10:36:20 pm
Those are actually almost glowing reports on Bulls and hawks, considering the author.  Need to watch Bulls game soon.  Haven't been paying any attention to them at all this year with the ways cubs been playing 
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Post by: Deeg on November 18, 2016, 12:02:02 am
All of a sudden Hoiberg doesn't look like an idiot anymore.
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Post by: Exile236 on November 18, 2016, 12:27:18 pm
All of a sudden Hoiberg doesn't look like an idiot anymore.

Credit Player-Coach Wade there.
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Post by: Deeg on November 18, 2016, 12:30:17 pm
Or perhaps Hoiberg was always a pretty good coach, and just needed a chance to put his stamp on the locker room.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 18, 2016, 12:39:59 pm
The Bulls have done surprisingly well so far.  But they were lucky last night.  Utah was shorthanded and shot atrociously.  Also, credit the Bulls with playing good defense and having just enough offense to win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 18, 2016, 02:19:48 pm
The Bulls were shorthanded too.  No Rondo, no MCW, no McDermott.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 18, 2016, 02:34:46 pm
Robin Lopez and Taj seem to work well together.
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Post by: Deeg on November 18, 2016, 02:36:11 pm
Lopez may be the MVP so far. He's playing like Noah before Noah sucked.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 18, 2016, 08:16:28 pm
No Rondo is a plus. He's been atrocious. Butler should be top 5 MVP early on.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 21, 2016, 02:16:40 am
Butler should be top 5 MVP early on.

Amending that to top 3.
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Post by: JBN on November 21, 2016, 06:40:10 am
Blackhawks are 13-4-2 with 28 points and second best record in the NHL.  But a longs way to go.

It doesn't matter how good or bad the Bulls are, Cavs will be in the finals. They blew a 19-point lead against the Clippers the other night and struggled last night against the Lakers. Seen this movie before.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 21, 2016, 08:11:04 am
I don't see the Bulls threatening the Cavs, but they are playing like a top 4 team in the East.  The formula is to make the playoffs with the highest seed possible and hope someone knocks off the Cavs before you get to them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 21, 2016, 10:13:02 am
I don't see the Bulls threatening the Cavs, but they are playing like a top 4 team in the East.  The formula is to make the playoffs with the highest seed possible and hope someone knocks off the Cavs before you get to them.

The problem is that athletic teams are going to run rings around the Bulls.  Even the Lakers did so - if they weren't so young and stupid they would have won that game easily.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 21, 2016, 10:19:42 am
Bulls defense biggest problems are defense and coaching. They both stink.  Offense hasn't been a real issue and it sure has been nice not seeing Rose shooting 6-24 a game and his stupid interviews.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 21, 2016, 10:35:17 am
Actually the Bulls' defense has been pretty good most of the time (and rival coaches have been pointing that out).  I think they were gassed last night.

With the roster they have and a 9-5 record, I certainly wouldn't identify coaching as one of their problems.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 22, 2016, 10:25:09 pm
The Bulls blow a 14-pt lead in Denver despite another great Butler performance. And on the last possession down two Hoiberg calls a play for Isaiah Cannan to shoot a three which he airballs. You have Butler and Wade, and Hoiberg decided a guy who had been on the bench for 10 minutes should take the important shot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 22, 2016, 10:36:30 pm
The refs took that game from the Bulls.  Horrible officiating.  Embarrassing.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 22, 2016, 10:47:36 pm
There were missed calls all game. The Bulls should've put away a bad, young team, yet Butler had to carry them to even give them a chance.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 23, 2016, 09:25:43 am
With the Bulls down a point Denver hit Jimmy so hard he traveled to keep from falling over.  Then the next possession down they call a ticky tack foul on Wade to ice it for Denver.  Absolutely ridiculous.  If you are going to swallow your whistle on one end you have to do the same on the other.  They also just watched as Wilson Chandler plowed into Jimmy before calling a timeout.  Any other time of the game and that is a charge.  Again no call.  All of this happened within about 30 seconds.  Those refs should forfeit their salary for that game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 23, 2016, 09:30:41 am
There were missed calls all game. The Bulls should've put away a bad, young team, yet Butler had to carry them to even give them a chance.
The Bulls are missing 2 key players and are not all that good.  Even their good teams haven't won in Denver for a decade.  Unless you have played in the NBA and especially in Denver, blanket statements like this are ignorant.  Winning an NBA game is hard.  Winning on the road is hard.  Winning at high elevation when you aren't used to it is hard.  Winning without 2 rotation players is hard.  The Bulls put themselves in position to win the game but the officials swallowing their whistle on one end and poor decision making snatched victory away. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 23, 2016, 11:21:14 am
The foul call on Lopez' block of Mudiay with a minute to go was awful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 23, 2016, 03:44:03 pm
Crappy defense and crappy coaching. The Bulls failure.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 23, 2016, 05:18:18 pm
The Bulls are missing 2 key players

Carter-Williams and McDermott?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on November 25, 2016, 11:55:17 am
Carter-Williams and McDermott?
Jordan and Pippen
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 25, 2016, 05:27:03 pm
Carter-Williams and McDermott?
Carter-Williams was providing a very nice boost off the bench before he got hurt and McDermott is their only real 3 point threat so yeah, they are missing 2 key pieces.  Would they be a key on a true championship roster?  Probably not, but no one is arguing that this is a championship roster.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 25, 2016, 09:00:20 pm
Worst team and worst coach in basketball completes third winning West Coast trip in the post-Jordan era. 10-6 despite having played most road games in the league at 11.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on November 26, 2016, 10:16:41 pm
Hahahahaha Dusty
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2016, 10:35:43 pm
UT deserved to lose.

In my 25+ years as a UT fan this has been the most unlikeable team I've ever watched.

When Vandy scored that last touchdown I looked at my wife and said "good".

Im not sure what exactly it is but it was awful hard to root for this team.

Could it be that we live in a world where we're not allowed to say bad things about minorities whether they suck or not and I'm force fed a shitty QB every week and have for 4 years?

Nah.

Surely not.

The team who deserved to win won.

Congrats Vandy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2016, 11:12:56 pm
I read a story several months ago that said the Cubs chase for a world series was the last great story in sports and as far as I'm concerned I agree.

As a UT, Bulls, Cubs, and 49ers fan I've now seen all of them win a championship in my lifetime (UT basketball and baseball don't count cause that's not even remotely realistic).

You all will love this but my grandpa was a no nonsense man and he used to say I was only smart about **** that would never make me a dime (meaning sports) so I won't say sports mean any less to me or I like them any less but now that the Cubs finally have won and I made it through this October where every other night was a flat out heart attack of a ballgame it's kinda hard to get stressed over a UT team that played with no heart all year and a ballgame tonight where there was nothing on the line.

The truth is being around you all here and seeing how you all rooted for the laughing stock of professional sports for 100+ years through thick and thin has really made me despise UT fans.

They are truly the worst fans in American sports and even though Ill die a UT fan it gives me some joy to see them have to eat a little **** tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 02, 2016, 10:58:26 pm
Nice bounce back by the Bulls tonight after losing to the Lakers.  Taj, Wade, and Rondo were all terrific.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 04, 2016, 06:39:46 pm
B'Hawks terrible so far in the first period.  They have only 2 SOG in 16 minutes.  Luckily, it's still scoreless.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 04, 2016, 08:24:39 pm
Worst game I have seen the B'Hawks play this season.  Darling has made saves on 3 breakaways and it's still only 1-0 with 10 minutes to go.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 05, 2016, 10:47:17 am
Ruh-roh:

K.C. Johnson ‏@KCJHoop 10m10 minutes ago

Bulls announce 1-game suspension for Rajon Rondo for conduct detrimental to team.
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Post by: Chris27 on December 05, 2016, 11:44:08 am
Well, the defense will improve for a game anyway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 05, 2016, 11:53:36 am
Rondo 2nd on the team in DBPM through 17 games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 13, 2016, 09:27:59 pm
Bulls lose to 6-18 Minnesota after leading by 21 at home.

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Post by: JeffH on December 13, 2016, 10:22:36 pm
Blackhawks beat the Rangers on the road.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 14, 2016, 07:26:09 am
There is a lot to like about the B'Hawks.  Hartman, Hinostroza, and Motte have all made significant progress.  Van Riemsdyk has played well since his return- I like the way he pressed the offensive zone and buried a shot from the slot last night.  If they keep improving, they just might unexpectedly make a deep run this year.   
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Post by: jacey1 on December 14, 2016, 11:06:08 am
Hawks are playing fairly well right now, but still trying to find their identity. I feared they would be alot worse at this point in the season than they have shown so far. Lets hope they keep building on the good things this year and progress on an upswing heading into the last half of the season. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 15, 2016, 08:57:37 pm
The Fred Hoiberg era needs to end soon.

It's also safe to say this team is junk and should be in the lottery picks at seasons end.
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Post by: guest61 on December 15, 2016, 10:02:41 pm
I'm good with them on NBA 2K17.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 15, 2016, 11:05:51 pm
Yeah but I'm good with the Bears on Madden 17 as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 15, 2016, 11:34:43 pm
They not only need lottery picks, they need somebody else making them.   Foreman is a disaster as a GM and Paxson, his enabler needs to follow him right out the door.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 16, 2016, 05:09:26 pm
Yup. The franchise is done for. But the NBA is so boring these days it's really hard to watch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 16, 2016, 06:43:47 pm
I don't watch it like I used to.

I still love basketball but I like college more.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 16, 2016, 07:41:19 pm
The worst thing about the Bulls is that they're quitters. A few years ago they were renown for their effort, now they simply don't care.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 16, 2016, 10:18:52 pm
I am so glad I didn't spend the money on NBATV this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 17, 2016, 09:07:34 am
http://www.secondcityhockey.com/2016/12/16/13987306/scott-darling-cubs-goalie-mask-winter-classic-blackhawks-vs-blues-busch-stadium
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 19, 2016, 04:57:50 am
The Bulls are slowly heading to the lottery.

The Blackhawks on other hand...what  a great weekend they had.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 19, 2016, 09:46:49 am
The Bulls should see what they could get for Wade at the deadline as well as Gibson.   
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Post by: Deeg on December 19, 2016, 09:55:10 am
C'mon, Robb - you know that won't happen with Wade.  Nor should it.

At this point, the most important game on the schedule for Bulls fans isn't their game, it's the Kings' game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 19, 2016, 01:14:44 pm
Why shouldn't it Deeg?
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Post by: Deeg on December 19, 2016, 01:44:13 pm
Why shouldn't it Deeg?

Wade signed that contract to come home and finish his career in Chicago.  To turn around and trade him in the middle of his first season would be a dick move.  If you burn down the house, liquidize everything else and start from the ground up with youth next season (which they certainly should, though it'll never happen as long as Paxson and his stooge are in charge) Wade can still have a role showing the kids how to play the game the right way.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 19, 2016, 02:42:34 pm
I understand the sentiment, but I don't know that Wade is committed to staying in Chicago the rest of his career.  He only inked a 1 year deal.  If he was serious about staying he would have signed for longer.  If there was an agreement that Wade would play out his career in Chicago then fine.  But I don't remember reading that anywhere.  Either way this team is seriously flawed, they are the most unathletic team in the NBA and the worst shooting team.  That they have won almost as many as they have lost is a miracle.  The problem is, they aren't bad enough to get a true impact talent in the draft at this point.  They need to get worse so they can get better.  What do McDermott, Portis and Valentine all have in common?  They were good players in college who excelled despite lack of athleticism.  How's that strategy working out so far? 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 19, 2016, 03:12:35 pm
He signed a two-year deal, not one. There's a player option but that's his option, if he chooses to exercise it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 31, 2016, 04:00:02 pm
Can someone explain to me how Rousey could go from being one of the most feared people in the world to someone who can't last a minute in the ring?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 31, 2016, 06:05:56 pm
She got soft.

Too busy being fine.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on December 31, 2016, 11:34:51 pm
Can someone explain to me how Rousey could go from being one of the most feared people in the world to someone who can't last a minute in the ring?

The competition in the women's ranks is improving fairly rapidly.  While becoming "soft" is the very easy explanation, as is often the case, when you look deeper, you are likely to find the easy explanation is far from complete (or at all accurate).

Rousey started to become a bit of a name in 2011 when she was 4-0 and booked a series of fights with then champion Miesha Tate.  Tate at the time was 18-6.  Their series of fights helped generate interest, ticket sales, boost broadcast viewership, and generally bring bigger paydays for top female fighters, all things which would tend to attract more female fighters and to increase how seriously existing fighters would train and dedicate themselves to fighting.

Since the two of them booked their series of fights, Tate has gone 7-12 (announcing her retirement last month) and Rousey has gone 8-2, losing both of her last two fights, one yesterday and the other 13 months ago. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 31, 2016, 11:48:45 pm
Thanks, Jes.  Don't be shocked. Yes, I read your response because I assumed you might be responding to me.  I appreciate it, because I know little of MMA, just that Rousey was a household word for awhile.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 02, 2017, 11:54:38 pm
For Jes: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2684865-the-question-was-ronda-rousey-ever-that-good-to-begin-with?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial#
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on January 14, 2017, 02:54:47 pm
Cletus, D23, JR...

What's more #Atlanta?

This morning Chipper Jones and his bride named their newborn "Cutler Ridge"

Or

the Falcons are hosting a bunch of rappers that banged Russell Wilson's wife, Ciara, on the sidelines for tonight's playoff game?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 14, 2017, 03:13:14 pm
When they bang her on the sidelines, will tv cover it?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on January 14, 2017, 03:50:59 pm
You'll be able to switch over to nfl tv channel for special coverage during the commercial breaks for those that wish to see it.  Supposedly there will be some live streams without blurry boxes too.   

Best part is we get to find out how well Russell can block out what's going on around him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 15, 2017, 08:19:04 pm
Superfly Jimmy Snuka has died.

He was 73.

Had a short little run in the early 80's but he'll be mostly remembered as a murderer who somehow got away with it.

I'm 35 and he was never really relevant in my lifetime.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on January 16, 2017, 09:40:34 am
Superfly Jimmy Snuka has died.
He was 73.
Had a short little run in the early 80's but he'll be mostly remembered as a murderer who somehow got away with it.

The victim's family sued him and got a civil judgment for half a million dollars.  He also was criminally charged and awaiting trial when the court dismissed the charges less than two weeks ago because he had been diagnosed with a terminal condition and given a very short time to live.

The delay in charges being brought was simply due to the inadequacy of the evidence, a problem the prosecution still would have had now if Snuka had lived and the case went to trial.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 18, 2017, 11:55:35 pm
Durant has 40 points on 16 shots against his old team tonight.  I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure that's good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 26, 2017, 05:47:37 pm
If it even matters any more, the Bulls appear to be totally imploding.  Wade and Butler conspiring to call out the team, Rondo calling out Wade and Butler.  What a disaster.

GarPax are a f cking joke, that's for sure. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 26, 2017, 05:52:35 pm
I would love a total house cleaning including all management with only Butler remaining and perhaps not even that.  Gather draft picks, suck for 3 or 4 years and see what you can build as Lebron gets older.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 26, 2017, 05:58:28 pm
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 4m4 minutes ago

Rondo ends statement with, "The young guys work. They show up. They don't deserve blame. If anything is questionable, it's the leadership."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 26, 2017, 06:05:48 pm
And now Wade publicly rips into Rondo in an Instagram tirade.  This organization is a disgrace.

I don't know how seriously the young players in this organization take winning when the cameras are off and the doors shut.  But there's something about Wade and Butler getting together and then ripping a bunch of young players in the press that's pretty despicable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 28, 2017, 09:08:27 pm
Curry and Durant have 49 points on 27 FGA in 48 minutes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 29, 2017, 11:55:57 am
My wife and I were at the Warrior game.  Great entertainment if not great competition.  Curry was just amazing, particularly in the third quarter.  And we were able to get home early. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 29, 2017, 01:04:23 pm
It's pretty much video game basketball for the Warriors at this point.  They're coasting at about 75% and still 40-7.  The question is always how well it holds up late in the playoffs, but having Durant around now certainly helps.

In other news - Federer-Nadal, wow.  You can't write a script like how this one turned out - no one would believe it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 29, 2017, 03:12:35 pm
In other news - Federer-Nadal, wow.  You can't write a script like how this one turned out - no one would believe it.

Yeah that was pretty amazing.  The one thing I don't understand, though, is that Federer somehow had something to prove to be considered the greatest tennis player ever.  The guy already had more Grand Slam championships than anyone by a relatively healthy margin.  With all due respect to Nadal, it doesn't matter that he has a better career record head to head against Federer . . . his overall resume just isn't quite there yet. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 29, 2017, 05:28:38 pm
I agree, Federer was the GOAT whatever happened here. But this pretty much cuts off even the opposing argument. If Nadal had won he might realistically have caught Fed in Slams (though I'd still have bet against him, and wouldn't count Djokovic out).

The only guy you can made a case for was also in-house today, and that's Rod Laver. Who knows how many he'd have won if he'd played in the Open Era his entire career?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on February 08, 2017, 12:13:41 pm
The GOAT would be Thomas Edward Patrick Brady, Jr.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on February 17, 2017, 11:26:10 pm
Associated Press  FEBRUARY 17, 2017 — 10:55PM

STAMFORD, Conn. — WWE Hall of Fame member George "The Animal" Steele, whose given name was Jim Myers, has died at age 79.

WWE announced Friday the death of Steele, who was living in Florida. The Detroit native had tweeted and blogged in recent months about his declining health. He dealt with the digestive disorder Crohn's disease for several years.

Sporting a bald head, hairy back and green tongue, Steele was famous for his signature move of sinking his teeth into the turnbuckle pads around the ring. At a Boston Red Sox game in 2012, he pretended to take a bite from the baseball before throwing out a ceremonial first pitch.

Steele was once a Detroit-area high school teacher and coach who received a master's degree from Central Michigan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 18, 2017, 01:59:55 am
I couldn't stand Steele when I was a kid but I do remember him fueding with Macho Man Randy Savage and eating the turnbuckles.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 22, 2017, 05:36:03 pm
I knew Ole Miss had to be cheating.

Them getting good as quick as they did without ever being good before had to be too good to be true.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 22, 2017, 08:34:23 pm
None of the new allegations had anything to do with the Tunsil/Treadwell/Nkemdiche class...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 22, 2017, 08:35:10 pm
Anyone else who recruited Leo Lewis should be sweating, though...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 22, 2017, 09:11:56 pm
I'm just playing with you Dave.

All SEC teams cheat to some extent I'm sure.

All of the good ones anyway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 22, 2017, 10:15:49 pm
They all do.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 22, 2017, 10:17:19 pm
If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 23, 2017, 01:54:51 pm
I can only assume at this point GarPax are in the late stages of Mad Cow disease.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 23, 2017, 02:23:55 pm
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/bulls-trade-mcdermott-gibson-to-thunder-report-414642303.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 23, 2017, 02:44:27 pm
So the Bulls are shooting to be a 8 seed contender.  I will enjoy when they give Chris Bosh a ton of money because it is apparently 2010.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 23, 2017, 02:53:31 pm
You're giving the Bulls' FO too much credit believing they are "shooting" for anything. It's like 5-year-olds run the team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 23, 2017, 02:57:08 pm
Morrow could be useful if he remembers how to shoot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on February 23, 2017, 04:27:34 pm
It makes one wonder what it would take for GarPax to be fired? They are an embarrassment, their draft picks have been crap ever since what's his name left for Orlando. Hoiberg was a horrible hiring. Two draft picks to move up to get Doug McDermott so you can package him with Gibson and get three nobodies. LOL Maybe the Bulls should hire Ed Lynch
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on February 23, 2017, 06:32:50 pm
Sounds like both Brooklyn picks were in play but Bulks didn't want to rebuild.  Stupid.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 23, 2017, 06:57:03 pm
I heard Danny put this year's NJ pick on the table for George, but not Butler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on February 23, 2017, 07:01:17 pm
Woj reported both but hadn't reached discussions on whether there would be protections.  KC johnson says Celtics wanted protections. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 23, 2017, 07:26:50 pm
Cutting the Bears and Bulls from my life seems to be a good choice.

Without trading Butler them seem content being a middle pack team and cashing in on an old Wade. The PG they acquire don't seem to fit with Butler and the entire team doesn't fit with Hoiberg. I'll go back to not caring until the draft.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 23, 2017, 07:59:13 pm
Dave, I'm watching a little bit of Memphis and Cincinnati tonight.  Can't say I've followed college basketball super closely this year.

But why doesn't Memphis recruit in Memphis anymore?  Or at least it doesn't seem like it?  I was just taking a look at their last few recruiting classes, and maybe two of them are from the Memphis area. 
Title: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 23, 2017, 08:24:14 pm
There's a lot of politics involved. Many HS coaches began steering their best players away while Pastner was here, as well as to get away from their so-called "posses" that did nothing more than bring them down.

Of course, Pastner hired Keelon Lawson to get Dedric and KJ here, and hopefully their little brother, who they say is better than both of them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 12, 2017, 05:06:39 pm
History is officially made - congrats, Northwestern.  That's not a terrible draw for them, either.

Michigan, meanwhile, got totally screwed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on March 13, 2017, 06:51:11 pm
Softball umpire's horrendous call caught on video goes viral

http://usatodayhss.com/2017/bad-call-softball-alabama-fultondale-viral-video

You have to see the call to believe it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 13, 2017, 06:55:21 pm
I guess we now know how Jim Joyce is spending his time in retirement.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on March 13, 2017, 06:57:21 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zXDo4dL7SU
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 13, 2017, 09:45:10 pm
Some here would have you believe MLB umps are that bad.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 16, 2017, 05:49:04 pm
Pretty sweet seeing Doug Collins and Elaine Benes in the stands weeping after Northwestern pulled that one out.

Shame it had to end with an inexplicable brain freeze by Vandy, though...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 16, 2017, 08:16:24 pm
LMFAO

Couldn't happen to a more deserving clan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on March 19, 2017, 01:33:27 pm
Back in the Sweet 16. Suck it Louisville
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on March 20, 2017, 04:32:20 pm
Former 49ers wide receiver Dwight Clark has Lou Gehrig's disease.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/former-49ers-great-dwight-clark-says-he-has-als-suspects-football-caused-it/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on March 30, 2017, 09:28:13 pm
Great story on the life and death of former Vandy pitcher Donnie Everett...this is a great read!

http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/born-to-be-a-vandyboy/#MQX7zcAcegfZmp2t.97
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 02, 2017, 02:30:18 pm
Time to retire Bro...

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19059187/new-york-knicks-derrick-rose-season-torn-left-meniscus
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on April 02, 2017, 03:57:56 pm
He is going to sucker some team into a 3 year contract this off-season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 03, 2017, 08:12:26 am
At least major league umpires aren't as bad as golf officials.

http://deadspin.com/tv-viewer-snitches-on-lexi-thompson-costs-her-a-major-1793951326
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 03, 2017, 12:15:39 pm
The problem, I would argue, is not with golf officials but golf rules.  Which are stupid in many instances, including this one.  The officials enforced the rule as written.

If a player incorrectly marks the ball, I don't have a problem with the 2-stroke penalty.  It is what it is.  My problem is with penalizing a player for incorrectly signing a scorecard when THE SCORECARD WAS CORRECT WHEN THEY SIGNED IT.  It was the LPGA's error in not catching this before she signed the Saturday card, not Thompson's.  Why the f uck should she be penalized an extra two strokes for THEIR mistake?

I also have a problem with the officials telling the player in the middle of their round, which is a huge emotional blow.  They did the same thing to Dustin Johnson at the U.S. Open last year, but at least it was in the middle of the same round.  The problem there was they didn't decide whether to assess the penalty until after the round was complete - which meant all the players in contention (including Johnson) had no idea what the leaderboard was.  And that dramatically impacts the way you would play the final holes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 03, 2017, 03:26:22 pm
At least major league umpires aren't as bad as golf officials.

http://deadspin.com/tv-viewer-snitches-on-lexi-thompson-costs-her-a-major-1793951326

Watch the video provided in that article.  What Lexi did used to be an automatic DQ.  It still should be.  Whether intentional or not, she changed the line of her putt.

 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 03, 2017, 04:02:01 pm
My only problem with the original penalty is when it was assessed.  The next day is way beyond anyone's definition of reasonable.  As far as signing an incorrect scorecard goes, that is being penalized twice for the same infraction.

This is not at all like what happened to Craig Stadler a number of years ago.  The Walrus was going to play a shot from his knees and put a towel down to keep his pants clean.  A viewer called in and said he was unfairly building a stance.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 03, 2017, 04:09:35 pm
These are some motherfockers who take the game way too seriously.

The type of cats you see at the golf course and want to smack.

To quote the greatest golf movie ever "It's just a game Bagger".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 03, 2017, 04:22:09 pm
They really need to address this. Nobody I know likes the outcome the way it is. Perhaps they should have one rules official per group whose job it is to catch this stuff. If they sign the scorecard then it is official. No more of this BS where a fan calls in and affects the outcome of a major. And by the way, missing the spot by an inch on a gimme putt has no bearing on the tournament whatsoever. And to whoever felt the need to call in the "infraction" you are an idiot. She lost the major and $150,000 because of that idiot and the dumb rules that encouraged them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 03, 2017, 04:34:33 pm
I guess the 2019 rules of golf will eliminate much of this crap but I don't get why they have to wait so long. It's like those belly putters. They let people use them for 2 or 3 years after deciding to get rid of them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 03, 2017, 05:42:34 pm
Everybody knows you can pick it up if it's within putter length anyway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 04, 2017, 12:12:28 am
They could never afford to have someone like that with every group.  If they need to use viewers as observers, so be it.  But once a scorecard is signed, that should be it - if a mistake was made, oh well.  None of this next day BS.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 17, 2017, 11:28:31 pm
Hawks blew their 2-0 lead.  Good grief,  I'm going to bed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 18, 2017, 10:15:36 pm
How about those Bulls!!!  C'mon, man - if you rip 'em when they're bad you have to praise them when they're good.  And this 2-0 is no fluke - if you watched these two games you knows they've been the much better team.  Rondo has played like his vintage best and it's been a great team performance.

Long way to go, obviously.  But these have been two fantastic efforts by this team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 18, 2017, 10:30:02 pm
I just came here to post the same.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 18, 2017, 10:34:26 pm
I only wish Toronto were on our side of the draw.  We own their asses.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 19, 2017, 09:58:35 am
It's great to see the Bulls playing so well.  Rondo, Butler, and Lopez have been terrific.  I hope they can keep it up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 19, 2017, 12:19:10 pm
Damn. Cant believe nobody has posted this...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/aaron-hernandez-agent-isnt-convinced-suicide-least-one-person-might-agree-142229813.html

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 19, 2017, 12:23:05 pm
I thought the same thing this morning, Dusty.  Getting acquitted of that double homicide may have given somebody the idea to be judge and jury.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on April 19, 2017, 01:43:16 pm
He was already serving a live sentence without possibility of parole. if convicted, he'd be serving 2 of them.  Why off him?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on April 19, 2017, 02:13:45 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/19/us/aaron-hernandez-conviction-abatement/index.html

He has a young daughter right? if this is true... he might have done this to effectively get his estate out of the governments/wrongful death lawsuit.. and into his kids hands.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on April 19, 2017, 02:19:52 pm
This ^^^
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 19, 2017, 07:39:34 pm
Well...

Kinda shows there was some good in him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 19, 2017, 07:54:18 pm
Hernandez was broke...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/much-money-did-aaron-hernandez-162722172.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 20, 2017, 09:51:08 pm
(http://logodatabases.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/nashville-predator-alternate-logo-1024x768.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 20, 2017, 10:10:19 pm
Sorry about rubbing it in, but after years and years of getting our asses kicked by the Blackhawks and having our arena serve as United Center South for a long time, tonight is a pretty sweet feeling.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 21, 2017, 06:31:14 pm
Bulls reverting back to norm tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 21, 2017, 07:09:16 pm
Terrible luck losing Rondo just when he was playing so well.  You expect them to lose like dogs without him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 21, 2017, 07:13:30 pm
This is like watching two old guys fight over a dinner roll. The Celtics may be the worst #1 seed in history and the Bulls wouldn't make the playoffs in a decent conference.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 23, 2017, 06:16:31 pm
Hard to believe that four years ago the Bulls were fun to watch and looked like they were going to be title contenders for a decade.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 27, 2017, 09:09:39 pm
So how's the Bears board reacting to Mitch Trubisky?  Looks like Bears fans in general are excited.


http://deadspin.com/bears-trade-up-to-take-mitchell-trubisky-with-second-pi-1794726284
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dihard on April 27, 2017, 09:52:26 pm
Most of them are dumbfounded and pissed, but some praising the gutsy move to go after a potential franchise quarterback. Sure seems like a lot to give up to me, to move up one damn spot! Even if your guy was gone, there were plenty of great consolation prizes


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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on April 27, 2017, 10:01:27 pm
I really wonder if Fox/Pace will be around to see what Trubisky becomes. My hope is the offer Harbaugh complete control after next year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 27, 2017, 10:21:18 pm
Harbaugh wouldn't leave Michigan for the Bears.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on April 27, 2017, 10:33:26 pm
I don't think Jim loves college or being stuck behind Urban.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on May 09, 2017, 08:20:29 pm
Hernandez was broke...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/much-money-did-aaron-hernandez-162722172.html

ok... so how is he broke, and writing to his wifey telling her she is rich...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 09, 2017, 08:52:25 pm
So method, you're shocked to hear that perhaps Aaron Hernandez was not a pillar of virtues and morals?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 09, 2017, 09:05:25 pm
A quirk in Massachusetts law.  Since he died while his appeal was in process, his conviction will be vacated and his assets will be released.  From what I've read, the assets are zippo nonetheless.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on May 09, 2017, 09:09:40 pm
So method, you're shocked to hear that perhaps Aaron Hernandez was not a pillar of virtues and morals?

JR, i have not said anything of the sort... dont think any of my comments ascribe morality or virtue to his behavior.

I am just confused... his letter to his wife states that she is "Rich now", yet his estate was penniless.. so how does that work?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 09, 2017, 09:47:43 pm
I think he was probably lying to his fiancée when he wrote that in the letter ... which at least qualifies as not the worst thing he did while he was still roaming the earth.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on May 10, 2017, 10:57:31 am
Another thing I heard was that the conviction gets thrown out and the Patriots would be on the hook for some guaranteed money from his contract that was voided with his release for killing people.  I have zero clue if this is true.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 10, 2017, 04:39:57 pm
http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2017/05/09/aaron-hernandez-unlikely-to-recover-millions-from-patriots-nfl-expert.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 22, 2017, 10:42:38 pm
PREDS!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 22, 2017, 10:44:13 pm
In the last eight months, the Cubs have won the World Series and the Predators are in the Stanley Cup Final.  Not sure when pigs started flying, but it's been a really fun last fun last year and a half in sports for me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 22, 2017, 11:01:25 pm
Hope you're not equating those two things.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 22, 2017, 11:11:51 pm
Compared to Cubs, Predators are far superior in what they've accomplished, because they really really suck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 29, 2017, 01:27:31 pm
In my lifetime I've never seen such a sudden,sports related, fall from grace...

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/tiger-woods-arrested-early-monday-dui-charges-florida-154440049.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 29, 2017, 09:48:50 pm
Sudden??
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 30, 2017, 04:22:32 pm
JR, can you explain the significance of the catfish?  http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/19497492/nashville-predators-fan-jacob-waddell-charged-throwing-catfish-ice
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 31, 2017, 08:33:18 am
JR, can you explain the significance of the catfish?  http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/19497492/nashville-predators-fan-jacob-waddell-charged-throwing-catfish-ice (http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/19497492/nashville-predators-fan-jacob-waddell-charged-throwing-catfish-ice)

I have to admit, I'm not sure where the catfish originates from either, other than it's our response to what Red Wings fans do in the postseason with octopuses.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 05, 2017, 11:42:59 pm
Looks like JR is starting fights again...or maybe it was Dusty.  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2713648-video-appears-to-show-rex-rob-ryan-involved-in-bar-fight-in-nashville?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 13, 2017, 08:11:25 pm
There's never been a son of a **** in sports that I dislike more than this crybaby...

https://sports.yahoo.com/lebron-james-said-dont-believe-ive-played-super-team-funny-184625120.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 18, 2017, 07:17:38 pm
Fox put this Bobby Jones quote on the screen midway through the fourth round of the U.S. Open: "Nobody ever wins an Open. Everybody else just loses it."

That is certainly not the way it worked today.  Nobody came close to the way Brooks Keopka played today.  Wow.

I’d give Fox a C- for their golf coverage.  There were too many times the cameras lost a ball in flight and didn’t find it when it landed near a green. 

If I played at 8,000 feet maybe I could relate to players reaching a 681 yard par 5 with a drive and an iron.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2017, 07:32:44 pm
Fox was terrible. Their tagline for the U.S. Open seems to be "while we were away".

No doubt, Koepka played great. But Erin Hills didn't remotely play like a US Open course. That's why the leaderboard looked like a tour event and not a major.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on June 18, 2017, 08:39:01 pm
Erin Hills didn't play like a typical US Open course because of the soft conditions due to rain and lack of wind (until today).

It's amazing, but even 7,800-yard courses - when soft - give those guys the opportunity to go low....which is almost ridiculous.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2017, 11:02:56 pm
It had 15-20 MPH winds all day today, and most of the leaders still came in under par.  It's just not an Open course.

When you see this event played at places like Oakmont and Merion, the cream rises to the top and the Sunday leadeerboard is packed with great players because it's a great test of golf.  Wind or no wind, Erin Hills - while beautiful - simply isn't that kind of crucible.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 18, 2017, 11:28:51 pm
I don't know about saying great players weren't in contention.  The leaderboard most of the day today had the #4 (Matsuyama), #9 (Fowler), #13 (Thomas), #22 (Koepka), #33 (Fleetwood), and #50 (Harman) players in the world hovering around most of the day, with the #22 guy winning it.  There wasn't anyone contending today who would have been a completely fluke winner, not even Harman who was playing well heading into the tournament.  Matsuyama is now #2 in the world after today's tournament, and if that doesn't establish yourself as a star in your particular sport, I don't know what does. 

The days of Tiger, Phil, and Ernie are over, and golf hasn't really been able to establish superstars yet to replace them who transcend the entire sports world.  A little bit of the problem golf is having is that the "great" players of this generation haven't really established themselves yet.  We'll be hearing plenty more from guys like Matsuyama, Fowler, and Thomas before long, and Koepka is probably not going to be looking like a fluke winner before his career is over.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2017, 11:54:08 pm
Sorry, but that was a standard tour event leaderboard.  The top 3 guys missed the cut, and most the first page were basically target golf specialists.

The more difficult the course, the more mediocre players are eliminated before the week even starts.  The more fair the course, the more the best shotmakers rise to the top.  The PGA seems to have an obsession with gimmick courses lately - would anyone argue Chambers Bay wasn't a debacle?  And even that was a better test of golf than this.  At least when Rory won at Congressional at 16-under, he smoked the field by 8 shots - and the best player in the world won (which he certainly was at that time).  Here, 7 guys broke -10 and 27 broke par.  We see target golf 90% of the time on the U.S. tour - why do we need to see it the one week of the year these guys should face a U.S. Open challenge?

I'm also not quite sure why the USGA seems to enamored with links courses these days.  The British is played on a links almost all the time - most of the courses in the rota are true links courses.  When Americans try and do a links course it always ends up being a sort of hybrid that doesn't really work as a links or a standard course.  Chambers Bay had everything but Lincoln's mouth.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 19, 2017, 12:43:43 am
I think if Matsuyama's -12 under had held up like it looked like it had a reasonable chance of doing before Koepka took control, we wouldn't be talking about the quality of the leaderboard.  We'd be talking about Matsuyama joining Day, Rory, and Spieth as one the elite players in golf for the next few years.  The quality of the leaderboard was fine.  It just reflects that golf is still transitioning from the days of Tiger and Phil.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 19, 2017, 12:44:25 am
By the way, I'd like to wish JeffH the best of luck in his upcoming fight against Manny Pacquiao.  I think he's going to need it.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/19665086/manny-pacquiao-jeff-horn-fight-air-live-espn-july-1

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 19, 2017, 12:58:08 am
Matt Kuchar's caddy, Joe Wood:

Quote
"I will say this as a caddie, and as someone who watched the shootout on Saturday: I've never seen or experienced a U.S. Open without fear until this week. Fear that a good shot would be repelled by a rock-hard green. Fear that a good drive would roll out just one yard too far on a firm fairway into five-inch thick, heavy, hackout rough. Notice I said "good" shot. Not "great," not "perfect," but good. U.S. Opens to me have always demanded great. They've always demanded as close to perfect as possible. No matter how well you were playing, swinging, thinking, and controlling your emotions, there always existed that fear in the back of your brain that this shot, that any shot, could spell disaster. That didn't exist this week. There was no fear."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 19, 2017, 12:58:24 am
"Oops, that was the last one"  It was nice that, thanks to Paul Azinger, Fox was able to correct Brooks Koepka's girlfriend's name.

Did Keopka forget anybody when he thanked his caddy, his nutritionist, his swing coach, his "attitude" coach, and his agent?

At least Fox did present the last half hour or so commercial free.

Azinger and Brad Faxon carried on the discussion of which wind direction was favored by a righty or a lefty way too long.



Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 19, 2017, 01:00:44 am
John Sens, Golf Magazine:

Quote
"As many players said, it was just too much grip it and rip it to feel like a proper national championship".


Jeff Ritter, S.I.:
Quote
"My lingering question is, Was it wise to stage the so-called toughest test in golf at a course where weather was absolutely necessary to create that scenario (fear)?"
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on June 19, 2017, 07:20:43 am
By the way, I'd like to wish JeffH the best of luck in his upcoming fight against Manny Pacquiao.  I think he's going to need it.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/19665086/manny-pacquiao-jeff-horn-fight-air-live-espn-july-1

Thanks, Bro!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 19, 2017, 09:18:54 am
3 of the top 7 and 8 of the top 27 finishers at the U.S. Open were members of the 2016 U.S. Ryder Cup team - Brooks Keopka, Bill Haas, Ricky Fowler, Brandt Snedeker, Patrick Reed, Matt Kuchar, Jim Furyk, and Zach Johnson.  Not exactly a bunch of journeyman nobodies.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 19, 2017, 09:58:21 am
No one ever said journeyman nobodies. They're great flag-hunters - that's why they make the Ryder Cup team, which is chosen mostly by a points system based on how well guys perform weekly in PGA Tour events staged on target golf courses like Erin Hills.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 19, 2017, 04:06:03 pm
 Nick Friedell Retweeted
Marc Stein‏Verified account @ESPNSteinLine 2m2 minutes ago

The Cavaliers, per league sources, have been working today on assembling multi-team trade scenarios to try to acquire Chicago's Jimmy Butler
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2017, 06:45:04 pm
Butler to the Thibs for Dunn, Lavine and the #7 pick.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2017, 06:45:54 pm
Is there a worse run organization in sports than the Bulls?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2017, 06:47:03 pm
Seriously, do Paxson and Foreman have compromising pics of Reinsdorf?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2017, 06:50:22 pm
The Bulls trade one of the best players in the game who had multiple years left on a team-friendly contract, plus the 16th pick in the draft, for #7, flop Kris Dunn, and recent ACL sufferer Zach Levine.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2017, 06:51:48 pm
I don't see much point in holding on to Butler to try and be a #8 seed for the next two years, and then either letting him walk or overpaying him to stay.  Butler's not good enough to anchor a contender. 

Lavine, if he comes back 100%, is a very good player - a freak athlete who can shoot.  Dunn, well - disappointing rookie season for sure, but has a chance.  As foe the #7 pick, well - it's a good draft 7-deep, so that could be a nice piece.  I like the trade, because if nothing else it's proof GarPax have acknowledged a teardown is the only way.

GarPax are still terrible, but at least this almost feels like a plan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2017, 06:54:19 pm
Well, the 16th pick being included does tip the scales for me against it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 22, 2017, 06:56:59 pm
I wasn't in love with Butler so I'm not heartbroken.

Truth is I don't even like todays NBA anymore so I don't really care.

I do still like college basketball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 22, 2017, 07:03:24 pm
Brutal trade.

Butler should have brought back more.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2017, 07:08:54 pm
He would have with a competent front office.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2017, 07:13:52 pm
Butler isn't a superstar, you're not going to get a superstar return.  Especially since GMs know the Bulls have boxed themselves into a corner.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 22, 2017, 07:21:59 pm
If hes not a 1 he's def a 1b.

We literally just gave up the best player on the team, to move up 11 spots in the draft. the players we got back are seriously flawed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2017, 07:24:54 pm
9 spots!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 22, 2017, 07:25:57 pm
Even worse.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 22, 2017, 07:27:56 pm
"Lauri Markkanen is 9th overall in ESPN's analytic draft model: 2% chance to play like an all star and 47% chance to be a bust." Ben Alamar, ESPN Analytics

Ouch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 22, 2017, 07:32:58 pm
Not a great trade,  but not as bad as everyone here is saying.  If Dunn develops and they do well with their pick this could be a good trade.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 22, 2017, 07:51:48 pm
Including the 16th pick tips the scales for me. It wouldn't be a Bulls trade if they didn't include unnecessary picks.

At least Patton is going to play for a good coach. Calling my shot TWolves will get the two best players out of this deal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2017, 08:31:27 pm
How is it not an awful trade? They could've made the exact same one last draft. Butler has a better year, Dunn does not have a good rookie campaign, and Levine blows out his knee, and they can't do any better?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2017, 09:05:35 pm
https://www.sbnation.com/2017/6/22/15858220/jimmy-butler-trade-bulls-timberwolves-bad
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on June 23, 2017, 11:17:16 am
Stan Bowman asking GarPax to hold his beer

jesus

Hammer gone for nothing
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on June 23, 2017, 11:29:50 am
Stan lmao

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/878287328220823553

Welcome back Saad
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2017, 11:34:26 am
Well, it's stunning, but on the other hand the team is in cap hell thanks to Bettman and having so many good players early on. In other times they may have picked up another Cup or two. Now just trying to survive. And Hossa might be done which makes things worse.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 23, 2017, 11:36:37 am
Hawks trade Hjalmarsson as well.  I don't mind either move.  Hjalmarsson is terrific, but has a lot of mileage with all of the blocked shots he has taken.  Getting younger there is fine.  Panarin is pretty one dimensional (although he's a great scorer), and they missed Saad's physical presence.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2017, 11:45:29 am
Saad's not all that physical. More than Panarin but Panarin is a supreme offensive talent. Only two years on his contract though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2017, 11:54:10 am
https://twitter.com/DimFilipovic/status/878291100074622976
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 23, 2017, 12:43:21 pm
Panarin is overrated, IMO.  He's a serious defensive liability.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2017, 12:44:51 pm
So is Kane. Top-10 offensive talents don't come around every day.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on June 23, 2017, 12:54:02 pm
Saad-Panarin deal is a net win for sure. But punting Hammer for **** sucks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2017, 01:46:09 pm
https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/878272502346039297
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 23, 2017, 02:10:53 pm
We def sold at .50 on butler.

I think if Cavs were given more time, they would have come up with a much better package for butler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 23, 2017, 02:29:38 pm
Listening to Chicago radio this was by far the best offer for Butler. The original TWolves offer was Rubio, Dunn and the #7. Boston was only willing to offer their pick next year.

Blackhawks are rumored to be trying to trade up in the first round and get TJ Oshie to play with Kane.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2017, 02:33:24 pm
The Bulls did not have to trade Butler right now. You don't take a garbage offer when you don't need to. In fact, they didn't have to trade Butler at all.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 23, 2017, 02:45:13 pm
GarPax judged that Butler was not a guy to try to build a Championship team around, so back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 23, 2017, 03:10:42 pm
The Bulls also didn't want a half season of Butler because they want to tank for top pick next year. The idea behind rebuilding is to be bad enough to get top talent several years in a row in the draft. The problem continues to be the guys picking that talent.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on June 23, 2017, 03:16:53 pm
The Bulls did not have to trade Butler right now. You don't take a garbage offer when you don't need to. In fact, they didn't have to trade Butler at all.

As a Pacers fan I think this is why George has not been traded.  The problem with the Pacers is they are not going to get anything good in any trade for George thanks to his big mouth.  I don't understand though why the Bulls couldn't get more for Butler.  That one is puzzling.  They got about as much as I think the Pacers could get for George.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 23, 2017, 04:11:55 pm
I would have been OK with it apart from giving up the 16th pick.  That's just the usual GarPax horrendous negotiating.

The kicker, though, is selling Jordan Bell to the Warriors for 3.5 million.  Sickening and despicable - a slap in the face to every Bulls fan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 23, 2017, 04:13:32 pm
Potentially helpful for the Warriors though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 23, 2017, 05:34:27 pm
Well, yeah - but we're talking about the Bulls here.  And did the Warriors really need the help?

I can't think it's good for the NBA to have the Bulls under such cheap ownership and terrible management. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 23, 2017, 06:00:26 pm
The Bulls also didn't want a half season of Butler because they want to tank for top pick next year. The idea behind rebuilding is to be bad enough to get top talent several years in a row in the draft. The problem continues to be the guys picking that talent.

The Wsox are rebuilding... do you think they should have sold Sale at 50 cents on the dollar to get a higher draft pick faster? how about Q, do you think they should dump him now at 50 cents on the dollar... i mean they have the 8th overall pick now... and they are rebuilding so might as well dump him for nothing to get a higher pick.

Worse yet... thats not even what the bulls did. They traded their best player to move up a few spots... not to take some transcendental talent... but to take a center in a league moving away from big men from a small school.... its just bizarre.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 23, 2017, 06:57:53 pm
Speaking after the NBA draft Thursday night, Bulls vice president of basketball operations John Paxson called it a "hard" decision to move Butler, "a guy we really like." But Paxson said by making the move, the organization "set a direction" of going "with young players."

Umm, you dont have to give away your best player to set a direction.. you can do that while extracting the most value.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 23, 2017, 07:06:49 pm
The problem is you can't compare baseball to basketball. I think part of the problem is that Golden State is so much better than everyone else and the Cavs are so much better than everyone in the East that teams aren't willing to pay for a player with 1-2 years of control. The Bulls should have traded him last year for what ever they could have gotten and had a much higher lottery pick this year. Hopefully Reinsdorf will let them use cap space to buy additional assets and then they will get rid of GarPax. If Indiana can get more for George that will change things, but my guess is that this is the most they could have gotten for Butler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 23, 2017, 08:28:02 pm
Any owner who sells a well-regarded sleeper draft pick for straight cash isn't going to be re-investing his money in players.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 23, 2017, 09:26:28 pm
The problem is you can't compare baseball to basketball. I think part of the problem is that Golden State is so much better than everyone else and the Cavs are so much better than everyone in the East that teams aren't willing to pay for a player with 1-2 years of control. The Bulls should have traded him last year for what ever they could have gotten and had a much higher lottery pick this year. Hopefully Reinsdorf will let them use cap space to buy additional assets and then they will get rid of GarPax. If Indiana can get more for George that will change things, but my guess is that this is the most they could have gotten for Butler.

Its 2 years in his prime... that might have been the best deal offered RIGHT NOW. But its probably not the best value you can get for the guy...

right before the draft, in either the NFL or the NBA where picks are tradable, picks are king... they bring in more value then players. AFTER the draft, or during the season its the other way around.

They chose the wrong time and the wrong deal. they basically decided they'd take the best deal avaialbe to them right now... vs saying here is our path and plan... and lets get the most we can for butler. We are rebuilding and he is not part of the plan... but let the league know he's available in the next 6 months at XXX price.

I am confident the Cav's would have figured something out to get him and gotten the bulls more dunn and a PF with a high bust potential.

JR will not spend any money for assets... thats not his style... do remember he is the guy behind the slot pick pricing in MLB...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 25, 2017, 12:17:14 pm
I have a lot of respect for Sam Smith, and he seems to feel that the Bulls got what they could for Butler, and that they were right to pull the trigger.

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/ask-sam-mailbag-062317/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 25, 2017, 12:27:29 pm
Whatever respect I had for Sam (admittedly not that much) has disintegrated as he's devolved into unintentional self-parody these last few years.  He's a hack and a shill who's desperate to be seen as hip, funny and connected.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 25, 2017, 12:29:25 pm
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7. Most of the NBA is stunned by the poor return for Butler. Boston supposedly offered a far more attractive package with several future picks. No one is sure what Chicago was thinking. Meanwhile, Minnesota should be a playoff team with Butler, who is under contract for two more years.


http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2017/06/cleveland_cavaliers_scribbles_54.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 25, 2017, 12:42:43 pm
I've seen no evidence that Boston ever offered a better package for Butler.  Sounds like someone regurgitating rumors.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 25, 2017, 01:00:02 pm
It would be disappointing if they turned down a better offer of future picks for what they get t from the TWolves. My guess is that if the Celtics did offer up picks it wasn't the really good one (Brooklyn, Lakers etc...), but it has always been rumored that the Bulls wanted some young players included instead of just picks. GarPax seems to have an unhealthily obsession with former lottery picks that haven't performed well that they liked in their draft year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 25, 2017, 07:21:02 pm
A look at some of the Bulls' FO ineptitude:

http://www.givemesport.com/1085794-reactive-rather-than-proactive-the-butler-trade-demonstrates-a-lack-of-joinedup-thinking
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 30, 2017, 09:06:11 pm
George traded to OKC for Oladipo and Sabonis.  That seems to be less than what the Bulls got for Butler.  It doesn't mean that GarPax are excellent either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 30, 2017, 09:17:57 pm
George traded to OKC for Oladipo and Sabonis.  That seems to be less than what the Bulls got for Butler.  It doesn't mean that GarPax are excellent either.

George is a FA after the year and is telling everyone he's headed to LA. It's a one-year rental.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 30, 2017, 09:22:00 pm
That is fair, but Butler only has 2 years of control before he can opt out. I think GarPax suck, but the Butler trade could really have been the best offer and another two years of being an 8th seed isn't appealing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 30, 2017, 09:27:22 pm
Well, they sure won't be an 8th seed anymore.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 30, 2017, 09:33:46 pm
Hopefully they'll be the worst team in the NBA....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 30, 2017, 09:40:29 pm
Even then you still have to win a lottery.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on July 12, 2017, 03:26:57 pm
Picking up on some posts that were made when Arnold Palmer died last September, Tom Callahan has a new book out simply titled Arnie.  Here is an excerpt from it:

Quote
Two men from Chicago, Jeff Roberts and Wally Schneider, were serving in Vietnam and wrote to Palmer seeking help with their bunker shots (when they weren't shooting from bunkers). Palmer not only replied, he sent two sand wedges and golf balls, along with his sincere wishes for a safe and speedy return.

Roberts went to the Western Open when he got home. He waited for Palmer outside the clubhouse at Olympia Fields and told him that he was one of the soldiers to whom Palmer had sent the sand wedges in Vietnam.

"Are you Jeff or Wally?" Palmer said to him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 12, 2017, 03:48:24 pm
I knew an old man who had met Palmer and he said he was as nice as you could have ever hoped.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 20, 2017, 11:17:28 am
Oh, the irony - Rose about to sign with the Cavs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 20, 2017, 08:13:46 pm
Damn Dave I bet you're hurtin over the Hugh Freeze news huh?

That's what cheating will get you.

Time to just give in and root for the Big Orange.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 20, 2017, 08:22:46 pm
Well Ill give him credit.

It wasn't cheating that got him fired.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20117453/hugh-freeze-ole-miss-rebels-resigns-escort-service-calls-cited

Hotty toddy...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on July 20, 2017, 09:09:15 pm
The NCAA doesn't have nearly as much on the program as the press would have you believe.

Ironic that Houston Nutt and the Freedom of Information Act were his downfall.

Great coach and great recruiter, shame it ended like this...

And I would root for Isis over the Vols...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 20, 2017, 09:22:28 pm
I loved that Dave.

I use that same line in regards to the Florida Gators.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on July 22, 2017, 10:06:51 am
Irving asks for a trade. Sure wish the bulls had Butler around to make a run at irving.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on July 23, 2017, 12:09:14 pm
Spieth is cold blooded!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 23, 2017, 12:29:22 pm
The only way Irving would have gone to Chicago was to play with Butler.  What would the Bulls have had to offer besides him?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on July 23, 2017, 06:28:26 pm
Bullshit.

Irving will go anywhere he can be #1. if he cared about who he played with he would have made his demands 5 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 23, 2017, 06:51:03 pm
That must be why he's been trying to engineer playing with Butler since the end of the season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 07, 2017, 08:39:39 am
Dolphins is the new pick for the Super Bowl with the Cutler signing!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on August 10, 2017, 09:17:06 pm
Brady the God will win number 6. But this guy Trubisky has bears fans singin!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 13, 2017, 10:17:43 pm
Great win for Justin Thomas today.  Golf is in a pretty good place for the next few years with all the great players emerging.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 14, 2017, 12:18:50 pm
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/872599-ric-fair-hospitalized-medical-issues

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 17, 2017, 08:52:28 pm
So Chris Berman's old lady gets drunk and rear ends an old man and kills him along with herself and they're suing the restaurant that she got drunk at for letting her drink. If they had refused her she would have sued too...  https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/6863d230-a215-3518-91e7-5d86b1a43f85/cafe-under-investigation-in.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 17, 2017, 08:54:11 pm
What a F'd up world we live in.

Things just seem ass backwards these days.

I hope they win and then the old man's family sues the Berman's for so much Chris has to retire in the projects.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on August 23, 2017, 10:06:54 am
Rule #1 in bar tending.  Don't over-serve.  You will be held liable.  I volunteer with an organization that raises money for kids sports by serving beer and alcohol at a concert venue in VA.  We have to take a "TIPS" course every year and this is a big issue.  The server is the sober one and has the better judgement.

http://www.tipsalcohol.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7uO6htDt1QIViz2BCh1-CQrsEAAYASAAEgLuyPD_BwE

You have the responsibility (not the right) to NOT serve a person.  If they look intoxicated to you then you cannot serve them more.  We deny them and inform Alcohol Compliance Officials and they watch them to make sure they do not go to another vendor.  If they do they are tossed out of the concert venue.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 26, 2017, 04:10:33 pm
I know I'm more into the fake stuff but I wonder who y'all have got in the big fight tonight.

I'll say Mayweather in 3.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 26, 2017, 04:24:57 pm
Forcing McGregor to fight without kicking or using MMA skills is nuts.  It's like expecting a team to beat Kershaw without bats.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: mO on August 26, 2017, 05:05:05 pm
Mayweather's punching power is a myth. He'll win in a decision.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on August 26, 2017, 05:05:19 pm
Mayweather will probably win.  The only reason I am going to go watch the fight is just in case McGregor surprises the world.  I hope he does.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 26, 2017, 11:30:31 pm
Humorous to follow on both CNN and ESPN.  Whoever is working for those networks isn't seeing the same fight as the other guy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 27, 2017, 12:10:43 am
I'll give the pro wrestler credit - that lasted way longer than I expected.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 27, 2017, 12:13:50 am
Agree,  unless...

Weren't there bets on how long the fight would go as well as who would win?  And wasn't the line at 9+?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 27, 2017, 12:19:28 am
I wasted 100 dollars but I wasn't surprised.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 15, 2017, 06:21:37 am
As much as ESPN keeps hyping the NFL and acting like it's the only sport around anymore, boy is it a really awful sh!tty product.  Bengals and Texans . . . ugh.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on September 16, 2017, 06:10:04 pm
Dusty, that one has to sting.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on September 16, 2017, 06:23:25 pm
Butch was such an uninspired hire for Tennessee. He has to go.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 16, 2017, 06:46:15 pm
Memphis over UCLA
Cubs over Cardinals
Florida over Tennessee

An Ole Miss win at Cal tonight, and this day will be perfect...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 17, 2017, 03:12:51 am
With age Ive mellowed tremendously when it comes to this stuff.

If I can make it through last October I sure can handle UT losing a game I expected them to.

As far as Butch goes he is what he is.

He's gonna win 7-8-9 games a year and beat shitty Big 10 teams in bowl games but if you're expecting championships he's probably not your man.

I personally dont see how you could fire him.

TOs and missed FGs beat UT today not Butch Jones.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 17, 2017, 01:15:28 pm
Vanderbilt looks like they might actually have a fairly decent shot in the SEC East.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on September 17, 2017, 01:32:12 pm
Vanderbilt could probably defeat the Bears.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on September 17, 2017, 07:33:12 pm
For the wrestling fans, especially the older ones. I grew up with this guy. He was hilarious.

"On Sunday, the wrestling industry suffered a massive, horrible shock as news broke of Hall of Fame announcer and manager Bobby “The Brain” Heenan’s passing."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 17, 2017, 07:55:14 pm
In Verne Gagne’s AWA, Bobby Heenan was known as “The Weasel”.  Of course he hated the name.

One of the often repeated AWA scenarios was Nick Bockwinkle keeping his world title because his manager, Heenan, would get involved in the match.  Of course the title could not change hands on a disqualification.  Then there would be a no DQ re-match that Heenan still managed to interfere in.  The challenger would then get a partner and go up against Bockwinkle and Heenan in a tag match that never solved anything.   That often resulted in a cage match.  Then a new challenger would come along and the cycle repeated itself.

One of the most classic AWA matches ever had Heenan facing Verne Gagne’s son Greg.  Greg Gagne weighed about 175 pounds but was always introduced at 222½.  The match ended with Heenan being put out by the famous Gagne sleeper hold.  A bunch of wrestlers entered the ring blocking the view of what was going on.  After a few minutes the ring cleared only to show Gagne waking Heenan up who found himself wearing a weasel costume.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 17, 2017, 08:23:43 pm
I met Bobby Heenan recently and he looked like death.

He had his jaw removed or something and all he'd do at the signing was give you the finger.

In a joking way of course.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 17, 2017, 08:26:03 pm
This isnt me with him.

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on September 24, 2017, 03:40:09 pm
The GOAT, Tom Brady with 1,000 yards passing and 8TD/0INT thru three games. Fn legend
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 24, 2017, 04:05:45 pm
LOL, if someone doubted before, they surely don't now...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 26, 2017, 09:57:14 am
I wonder if Bruce Pearl's remaining college coaching career should be counted down in hours or minutes right now.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/26/adidas-louisville-fbi-bribery-ncaa-arrests/ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/26/adidas-louisville-fbi-bribery-ncaa-arrests/)

Sounds like Louisville might be in some really serious trouble too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 26, 2017, 02:25:14 pm
Do you mean to tell me that high school basketball prospects are going to the school that makes the highest offer?!

I am stunned!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on September 26, 2017, 02:36:19 pm
Brian Bowen was the Louisville recruit and picked them out of the blue.  Creighton was thought to be a leader for him, but he kept putting off his announcement.  This Pitino quote is fabulous in retrospect, ""We got lucky on this one," Pitino said. "I had an AAU director call me and say, 'Would you be interested in a basketball player?' I said ... 'Yeah, I'd be really interested.' But [Bowen and his people] had to come in unofficially, pay for their hotels, pay for their meals. So we spent zero dollars recruiting a five-star athlete who I loved when I saw him play. In my 40-some-odd years of coaching, this is the luckiest I've been."

It might actually lead the NCAA do either do something about paying players or just fold up shop.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on September 26, 2017, 03:22:44 pm
Pitino is a longtime sleaze in every way.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 26, 2017, 04:12:48 pm
Bruce Pearl is the Adolph Rupp of Tennessee basketball.

I would have been totally fine if he was still to this day our coach.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on September 27, 2017, 12:16:24 pm
Bruce Pearl is the Adolph Rupp of Tennessee basketball.

I would have been totally fine if he was still to this day our coach.
I would think Ray Mears is/was more like UT's Adolph Rupp than Pearl
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 27, 2017, 12:50:55 pm
Dusty really misses Pat Head, he just won't admit it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 27, 2017, 03:31:52 pm
Ray Mears probably is UTs Adolph Rupp but he never coached a game at UT during my lifetime that's why I said what I said about Pearl.

You'd have to be pretty long in the tooth to even know who Ray Mears was these days.

As far as Pat Head goes Im mellowing with age so I found no pleasure in her death but Im still no Lady Vols fan.

I dont hate them but I dont hate hockey either and I dont watch it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on September 28, 2017, 12:05:28 pm
You might not be a true UT fan (young or old) if you don't know who the person was that coined the phrase "Big Orange Country"
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 28, 2017, 12:22:49 pm
Some guy from Syracuse?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 28, 2017, 12:51:29 pm
Like I said before you still hear Ray Mears's name around these parts just not that often.

He's the reason UTs coach usually wears an orange jacket and such.

He is a big deal.

Just not like Im sure he was 40 years ago.

I never saw General Neyland coach a game either.

Does that mean Im not a "real" UT fan?

Phil Fulmer would be to me in football what I said Bruce Pearl was to me in basketball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 28, 2017, 12:54:51 pm
And UT mens basketball isnt that big of a deal around here and other than the Pearl years it never has been.

Ray Mears would be the equivalent of the prettiest fat girl.

Nobody has done much with the program.

Mears just did more than anyone else...other than maybe Pearl.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 28, 2017, 01:20:32 pm
I watch UT basketball as religiously as I do UT football and have my whole life so I knew a few things that I wanted to throw out there but I wanted to go get my years right before I posted it so here goes.

Bruce Pearl took UT to the NCAA tourney every year he was here.

We've only been 18 times in program history.

He took us to our only elite 8 ever.

UT has been to the sweet 16 7 times all time.

Pearl took them to 3.

The only time UT has been ranked #1 nationally was under Pearl.

He was only here 6 years and got fired for having a high school Jr to his house for a cookout.

High school Sr's are allowed to your house.

Rick Pitino got to stay at Louisville and provided his incoming recruits prostitutes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on September 29, 2017, 10:00:22 am
Bears fans clamoring for Trubisky with a mediocre offensive line and the worst group of skill played in NFL history. Smh
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 29, 2017, 10:52:27 am


Rick Pitino got to stay at Louisville and provided his incoming recruits prostitutes.
Yes, but they weren't at his cook-out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on September 30, 2017, 04:30:01 pm
Lyle "Butch" Jones won't make it til Monday
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 30, 2017, 05:27:05 pm
0-25
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 30, 2017, 09:41:41 pm
Butch's stay at UT has hit a downward trend I will say that.

Do you fire him mid season?

No.

Could he still save his job?

Yes.

Let things play out and then decide after the season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 30, 2017, 11:12:18 pm
Butch is toast.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 30, 2017, 11:13:12 pm
After Vanderbilt beats them again at the end of the season, that'll make firing him all the easier.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 01, 2017, 12:51:20 am
Actually other than Alabama and maybe Georgia, the entire rest of the SEC is a train wreck conference right now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 02, 2017, 01:06:17 pm
ESPN is ranking the dismal dismal dismal Dolphins offense with Cutler as one of the top 10 surprises of the season so far.  Who the hell have they been watching the past 10 years?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 05, 2017, 09:50:04 pm
Jon Gruden anyone?

Tremendous smoke in Knoxville tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 05, 2017, 10:03:08 pm
Jon Gruden is a major pipe dream.

Not really sure UT should want him anyway.  He's been enjoying easy street in the broadcast booth for years now.  I can't imagine his enthusiasm for taking a college job could be all that great.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 05, 2017, 10:03:56 pm
If he didn't have the country backwoods name, Jim Bob Cooter with the Lions would be the right guy for UT to go after.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 05, 2017, 10:04:57 pm
Jim Bob Cooter was born (and bred) for that job.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 05, 2017, 10:44:33 pm
I know regarding Jim Bob.

He'll eventually be our coach.

I dont think Gruden is very likely either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 05, 2017, 11:00:07 pm
How about Lavon Hayes?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 05, 2017, 11:03:28 pm
UT just needs to look past the backwoods name, get over some of the jokes on sports radio they'll get, and hire Jim Bob after they fire Butch.  He has the country backwoods name, but he's a smart guy and a good coach.  And he'd be loyal to UT. 

Maybe Tennessee could convince Justin Fuente to leave Virginia Tech too, but Fuente is probably the best case scenario for what UT can expect at this point.   
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 05, 2017, 11:25:45 pm
Blackhawks showing off their young talent against an obviously tired Pens teams. Not sure they'll play defense well enough to be a title contender though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 05, 2017, 11:27:06 pm
You can tell you're a hater like Dave is JR.

Justin Fuente?

Come on brother.

We're talking about a legit top 10 program nationally thats probably 2nd in SEC history only behind Alabama.

Ole Miss and Vandy both arent even top 50.

Vandy maybe not even top 100.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 05, 2017, 11:49:03 pm
I'm not a hater.  I worked at Vanderbilt for 5 years, went to a lot of games when I was working there, and lived in Nashville for 14 years now, so I'm more a Vandy fan now.  I still want to see UT do well though.

I'd like it if they did pay up for Chip Kelly, but I don't see it happening.  Kelly just doesn't seem interested in taking a college job, and even if he was, a job like A&M is going to be more attractive, not to mention some other job that might also open up he might like better (UCLA being a Pac-12 school, Nebraska, LSU, etc.).  At the very least, Chip Kelly probably has maybe a 10-20% chance of happening, which might be optimistic.

Jon Gruden isn't happening, and again, I'm not even sure that's something you should want happening at this point.  It's been a decade since he's been on a sideline, and he's in a job that probably pays as well as a good college coaching job without nearly the stress of it.  Even if he took that job, that's a big transition from being in a cozy broadcast job for 10 years to dealing with overzealous college fans with oversized expectations.

Once you get past guys like that, you're looking at guys like Cooter and Fuente.  If Nebraska wasn't likely to open up, Scott Frost might emerge as a good candidate too, but if UCF finishes well, he's likely going to Nebraska.  And honestly, Fuente is a good coach.  He could do well at Tennessee and probably do a lot better job coaching up the talent they have than Butch Jones has.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 05, 2017, 11:52:46 pm
I guess the other part of it too is I've reached the point where big time college sports just disgusts me too much for me to get too worked up about it anymore.  This latest scandal with Adidas is just another example of it.

If it sounds like I'm a hater, it's probably because just about every big program rubs me the wrong way nowadays.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 06, 2017, 08:23:59 am
LOL, UT would be damn lucky to get a coach like Fuente.

I'd be pretty dismayed if he ended up there. I don't think he'd leave VT for UT, though...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 06, 2017, 12:45:20 pm
You all do know the backstory on Gruden to UT right?

He lives in the town next to my hometown in Dandridge TN and his wife went to my high school and was a cheerleader at UT.

He has said multiple times that UTs his dream job.

He's our Nick Saban.

It wont look likely until youre watching the press conference.

If UTs willing to pay him right he will come.

I saw a chart a few days ago where UT makes the most money in the SEC in sports but is like 7th in spending.

The money is there.

Now its time to see if UTs willing to pay for a winner or if they just enjoy being mediocre.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 06, 2017, 02:00:51 pm
We'll see how it goes.  I still don't see why he'd want to leave the great job he has to deal with 18-21 year old's on the field and an SEC fan base off of it, but we'll see.  Even if he did take it, at this stage of his career, I'm pretty far from convinced he's leading anyone to the promised land anyway. 

If Butch goes, I think you're more than likely going to need to get ready to accept someone of the Jim Bob, Justin Fuente, Les Miles, Tee Martin, Chad Morris, Major Applewhite, random assistant class of coach, which if they pick right, they'd probably be better off with anyway.


Maybe if they play their cards right, they can snag Chip Kelly or Mike Gundy as well, but I'm not sure I'd be too optimistic there either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 06, 2017, 02:17:43 pm
You need to take them gold colored glasses off JR. Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on October 06, 2017, 05:15:37 pm
You all do know the backstory on Gruden to UT right?

He lives in the town next to my hometown in Dandridge TN and his wife went to my high school and was a cheerleader at UT.

He has said multiple times that UTs his dream job.

He's our Nick Saban.

It wont look likely until youre watching the press conference.

If UTs willing to pay him right he will come.

I saw a chart a few days ago where UT makes the most money in the SEC in sports but is like 7th in spending.

The money is there.

Now its time to see if UTs willing to pay for a winner or if they just enjoy being mediocre.

Is this different than Gruden's alarm clock playing the ND fight song when he wakes up?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on October 06, 2017, 05:26:40 pm
Is this different than Gruden's alarm clock playing the ND fight song when he wakes up?

Well, that makes sense as an alarm is only effective when the noise is unpleasant.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 08, 2017, 03:49:55 pm
Titans and Dolphins .... the NFL is one really shitty overhyped product.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 08, 2017, 07:19:09 pm
They are almost as bad as the SEC.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 08, 2017, 07:26:19 pm
Be thankful that you missed the excitement of the Niner-Colts game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 08, 2017, 07:30:55 pm
Packers game was fun.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 08, 2017, 07:57:30 pm
Arron fuc king Rodgers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on October 09, 2017, 01:20:14 pm
Should have taken the Pence Approach, P2.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 09, 2017, 01:51:10 pm
Charge the taxpayers a half million for a staged publicity stunt?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 09, 2017, 02:01:39 pm
You got that right, DMF.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 09, 2017, 06:42:05 pm
OK, now it's time for the Trubisky Show to hit the air!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on October 14, 2017, 02:18:18 pm
Ol Butch is done for
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 14, 2017, 02:24:50 pm
Never fails to bring a smile to my face...never gets old...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 15, 2017, 03:41:03 am
Butch's seat is definitely blazing and deservedly so.

He's not a horrible coach though.

He'll go somewhere else and they'll love him.

His ultimate downfall will be hiring offensive and defensive coordinators that didnt work out even though every team in the country would take Bob Shoop.

Ill just leave this here...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/jon-gruden-is-in-knoxville-and-tennessee-vols-fans-are-perfectly-calm-about-it/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 15, 2017, 11:00:40 am
The hiring of coordinators is on him, though, and he's had lousy offensive coordinators since he's taken over.  It seems like he wants to be the one in charge of offense, so he doesn't want someone with too strong of a resume in that spot.  Basically the offense that's scored one TD in the last three games is one he deserves to have.


Bob Shoop was great at Vanderbilt.  Not sure why James Franklin had enough of him at Penn St., but Tennessee's defense hasn't been that much to write home about this season and should have defended that Florida hail mary a lot better.  Then again, when your offense doesn't do much and doesn't stay on the field, that puts a lot of pressure on the defense. 

Butch will be fine once he gets back to the MAC or the AAC, or maybe he can get back with Brian Kelly and start riding his coattails again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on October 15, 2017, 12:19:14 pm
Butch will be fine once he gets back to the MAC or the AAC, or maybe he can get back with Brian Kelly and start riding his coattails again.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!

I will say that Kelly replacing the d coordinator and strength coach dramatically changed ND from last year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 15, 2017, 01:24:32 pm
Butch isnt the offensive coordinator JR.

Former Miami head coach Larry Scott is.

Everyone hated Mike Debord and Scott makes him look like Bill Walsh.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 17, 2017, 06:00:14 pm
Apparently Bobby Portis broke Niko's face in a practice altercation today.

Gonna be a great year for the Bulls...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 17, 2017, 06:10:21 pm
If the plan is to get the top pick in the draft, I would say the plan is proceeding according to schedule.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 19, 2017, 07:29:21 pm
Bulls win total this year:  over 20?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 19, 2017, 10:18:01 pm
The Bulls were going to be bad anyway, but they aren't the sort of team that can lose three rotation players and survive it.  That was a brutal preseason.

On the upside, Markaanen looks like he has a chance to be a player.  He can shoot, has a high basketball IQ and he's tougher than he looks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on October 20, 2017, 04:17:41 am
Will the Bulls have more wins than the crappy Bears?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 20, 2017, 08:15:14 am
I think I would dump Portis.  He hasn't shown much and isn't worth the current and future dissension.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on October 20, 2017, 10:40:07 pm
Jason Lloyd (@JasonLloydNBA)

Ty Lue said Derrick Rose sprained his ankle tonight and "it doesn't look good."

NOTSportsCenter (@NOTSportsCenter)


Did You Know: Derrick Rose played 2 games this season before suffering an injury, breaking his previous career high of 1
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on October 22, 2017, 07:49:31 am
Dusty

It looks like the ESPN 30 For 30 feature on Ric Flair has been rescheduled

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/07/26/ric-flair-30-30-trailer-espn
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 22, 2017, 11:16:12 am
It makes you want to cry just watching the trailer. Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 24, 2017, 07:11:27 pm
If they every get a competent GM and can build a team around him, Maarkanen is going to be a nice piece for the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on October 24, 2017, 07:15:32 pm
Maarkanen will look great for stretches and then he'll be MIA for a while.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 24, 2017, 07:18:08 pm
Why are the Cavs allowed to all but tank games prior to the playoffs? I'd be furious if I were a ticket holder of theirs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on October 24, 2017, 07:34:20 pm
http://nypost.com/2017/10/24/jenn-sterger-rips-just-as-bad-espn-for-strip-club-job-interview/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 24, 2017, 07:43:29 pm
Maarkanen will look great for stretches and then he'll be MIA for a while.

You're confident of that after 2 games as a 20 year-old?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 24, 2017, 09:30:10 pm
Soon...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seccountry.com/tennessee/404588/amp
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 24, 2017, 11:26:43 pm
I think Vegas and the bookmakers just smell an opportunity to make some free money off of people who are believing a little too much in the "Grumors".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 25, 2017, 08:34:11 pm
I want to be clear on a few things JR.

First I dont think its at all likely that Gruden comes to UT and Im not even 100% sure that Butch gets fired or even deserves to be.

Its kinda like following free agency in the Winter hoping the Cubs sign someone with Gruden.

Sometimes you get your man but most of the time you dont but following it all is half the fun.

My best guess is Butch does get fired and we end up with one of Les Miles,Bobby Petrino, Charlie Strong, or Chip Kelly.

As a Vandy fan Im sure you'll be familiar with a man I would be all in for...James Franklin.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 25, 2017, 08:47:13 pm
But Im no insider to UT by any means.

Normally in my lifetime when UT has needed a coach they've always tried to go cheap with up and comers other than when they recently hired Rick Barnes for basketball.

That's probably what will happen this time.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 26, 2017, 07:21:59 am
Cross strong off your list. His wife's family is in lakeland... He took the usf job to be near them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on October 26, 2017, 08:39:22 am
Gruden wants another NFL job.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 26, 2017, 09:23:08 pm

Here's a thing:
Quote

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Lauri Markkanen has made 12 threes, the most by a player in the first 4 games of his NBA career.
11:10 AM - 27 Oct 2017
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 26, 2017, 10:07:52 pm
Just throwing this out there since we have been discussing it.

100% legit and verified that Jon Gruden did buy a house in Knoxville today.

Soon...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 27, 2017, 08:20:17 pm
Soon...

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tennessee-football/grumor-alert-jon-gruden-now-betting-favorite-tennessees-next-head-coach/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 29, 2017, 01:05:48 pm
Kind of surprising Florida is firing McElwain before Tennessee fires Butch.


Actually this is a far away opinion, but I'm not sure why McElwain is getting fired in the first place.  Two SEC East titles in the first two years isn't enough to make up for a down year this year? 


Fan bases of some of these big programs are just nuts.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 29, 2017, 01:29:07 pm
He faked death threats against him and his players.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 29, 2017, 01:34:52 pm
He didn't fake them. He claims some were made against him and his players. When administrators followed up with him on the claims he failed/did not give them any info that corroborated his claim.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 29, 2017, 02:05:08 pm
Uh...

What's the difference?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 29, 2017, 02:33:11 pm
Why is lying or over exaggerating something like that to the media a fireable offense?  Yeah it doesn't look good, but college coaches lie and exaggerate to the media all the time.  He didn't lie to the police about it, so it's not a crime.

They just don't like the season they're having, which is understandable, but he had two solid seasons after taking over the mess Will Muschamp left behind.

Maybe they have reason to think he actually is the guy who was humping the shark in that one pic and adding this and the disappointing season was a little too much baggage, but in terms of just his record, they shouldn't be ready to run him off right now.  And when it comes down to it, his firing is more 90-95% about them not being happy with what they're doing on the field than those comments.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 29, 2017, 03:17:02 pm
And the **** finally hits the fan...

https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/tennessee-football-vols-butch-jones-future-1029
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 29, 2017, 03:36:23 pm
Soon...

https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/coaching-rumors-tennessee-offered-jon-gruden-10-million-year-also-eyeing-bobby-petrino
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 29, 2017, 10:44:28 pm
Bobby Petrino?  He's got to be the biggest flake in the coaching industry.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 30, 2017, 10:23:41 am
Yeah whoever hires Bobby Petrino deserves to have a filthy slimeball as their coach.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 30, 2017, 12:21:23 pm
Of course UT fans are holding out hope that it ends up being Gruden but I'd have a awful hard time bitching if it were Petrino.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 30, 2017, 12:23:23 pm
Petrino would fit in well. SEC has shown over and over winning is the only thing that counts for them... Petrino shouldnt be allowed to coach and lead young men.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 30, 2017, 12:27:36 pm
...or women.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 30, 2017, 12:31:13 pm
Agreed, but he's being hired to lead the young men in a head ball coach role.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 30, 2017, 01:55:33 pm
method, he also fiddled the young women assigned to the team in various capacities.  He's a deuschebag.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 30, 2017, 01:58:18 pm
Lol

As long as he can beat Florida and Alabama we dont mind.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 30, 2017, 02:00:38 pm
Lol

As long as he can beat Florida and Alabama we dont mind.
Yup, that's the problem.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 01, 2017, 06:18:02 pm
https://youtu.be/jGucgduBpJU
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 02, 2017, 12:19:08 pm
**** getting real in Knox Vegas...

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 02, 2017, 04:34:49 pm
My luck in fantasy football is just awesome.  I had both DeShaun Watson and Carson Wentz, and just yesterday, I traded Wentz for wide receiver help.  So naturally this had to happen today . . .

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21266399/deshaun-watson-houston-texans-tears-acl-thursday-practice (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21266399/deshaun-watson-houston-texans-tears-acl-thursday-practice)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 02, 2017, 05:07:19 pm
God was angry about the Astros.

I took a huge fantasy hit as well.  I have Hopkins and Miller, and they're both basically rogered.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 02, 2017, 05:12:01 pm
It’s a damn shame that had to happen just for football in general.  Watson was one of the most entertaining guys to watch in a long time.  Hopefully he can at least come back to 100%.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 02, 2017, 05:35:39 pm
Trade you Aaron Rodgers!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 06, 2017, 04:55:37 pm
http://fanbuzz.com/college-football/sec/tennessee/jon-gruden-vols-job-rumor/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 06, 2017, 07:42:15 pm
You need to let that go.

Bryce Harper becoming a Cub is 10x more likely, and I'm not holding my breath on that one either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 06, 2017, 07:44:30 pm
He carved the Cubs logo into his Halloween pumpkin.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 06, 2017, 07:49:22 pm
Its all in fun Dave.

I dont expect it either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 06, 2017, 08:30:55 pm
But its not as unlikely as you seem to think...

Clay Travis ✔@ClayTravis
ESPN is 100% not able to afford to keep MNF after deal ends. Gruden to Vols is 50-50. https://twitter.com/jasonrmcintyre/status/927713189499846657 …
8:49 PM - Nov 6, 2017
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 06, 2017, 08:31:19 pm
He carved the Cubs logo into his Halloween pumpkin.


https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcsports.com/chicago/cubs/bryce-harper-flirting-chicago-cubs-kris-bryant-boras-blackhawks-bulls-vegas-wrigley-mlb%3famp
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 06, 2017, 08:33:43 pm
Bryce there is a team on the south side, with a lot of payroll flexibility.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 06, 2017, 08:50:06 pm
That's dog ****.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 06, 2017, 09:09:28 pm
Bryce there is a team on the south side, with a lot of payroll flexibility.
I know, but they suck.--Bryce.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 06, 2017, 11:45:15 pm
Either Harper is the greatest troll in baseball history or he's genuinely, seriously hot and bothered to play for the Cubs.  And he and Bryant are obviously very close pals.  But that doesn't mean he'll give the Cubs any sort of discount when the time comes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on November 07, 2017, 06:24:30 am
I Really seriously think he just loves trolling the media.  He got everyone in Washington all hot and bothered by wearing a Dallas Cowboys hat in an interview once. 

Wait until he signs with the Yankees and names his cat Fenway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 08, 2017, 03:14:13 am
Good Lord that Ric Flair 30 for 30 took me back to 1985 after church on Sunday at my great grandmothers house.

Im the biggest Hulkamaniac that ever walked the face of the Earth and I still to this day have a red and yellow Hulkamania shirt but Ric truly is the best that ever lived.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on November 08, 2017, 07:47:21 pm
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/wwe/4554054/wwe-wrestling-ric-flair-claims-to-have-had-sex-with-10000-women/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 09, 2017, 03:21:51 pm
Soon...

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 09, 2017, 05:00:20 pm
I agree their is a much better chance that a Chucky doll will be coaching the Vols instead of Gruden.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 09, 2017, 05:19:41 pm
5/60 and gruden says yes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 09, 2017, 06:03:33 pm
Im starting to think he will come to UT.

Its no different than us stressing over free agents during the offseason.

You win some and you lose some but we're all wrong more often than we're not when we make predictions.

Im more of a Cub fan than any other team college or pro but being born and raised here you're either a UT fan or a bastard no one likes.

There was a time when I would run through walls because I'd get so jacked during UT games.

Unfortunately those days are gone.

UT needs some life injected into this program.

Jon Gruden's just the man to do it.

No one here cares so I wont get very deep into it but there's an awful lot of smoke to this and some even say he's already signed the paperwork and begun putting together a staff.



Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 09, 2017, 06:18:48 pm
What I know for certain...

He bought governor Haslam's house in Knoxville within the last week and joined the high end country club.

He has been to two UT games within the last month after not being seen at any since the 80's.

His son currently goes to UT.

His wife went to UT and her family still lives here.

He has said multiple times that UT's his dream job.

ESPN is going broke and cant afford to keep MNF and is about to cut 100 more employees.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 09, 2017, 06:28:04 pm
And the gossip of the day is he's been using the Haslam's plane since the Georgia game and gossip has been that's when Butch Jones was told he was not gonna be brought back.

Paul Finebaum has even said he's been told we're after him hard.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 09, 2017, 06:34:34 pm
Here's the proof...

https://allfortennessee.com/2017/11/08/tennessee-football-5-reason-grumors/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 10, 2017, 02:08:01 pm
Just gonna throw this out there...


Rob Siske
Rob Siske
@robsiske
Per source who sat in meeting with John Currie and Jon Gruden this morning, Sunday following the Missouri game Gruden will be announced as coach @BarrettSallee @PeterBurnsESPN @ClayTravis  @ESPNDari @BruceFeldmanCFB @brentdougherty @AustinStanley81 @BradenGall
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 10, 2017, 02:11:59 pm
Grudens QB Camp on ESPN was cancelled today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 10, 2017, 02:42:16 pm
I mean Rob Siske is a devoted follower of Christ, he wouldn't lie so it must be true.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 10, 2017, 04:09:14 pm
I dont even know who he is.

I just found it on volnation.com's message board.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2017, 07:05:25 pm
Solid source...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 11:04:58 am

Bruce Feldman
@BruceFeldmanCFB
BREAKING Butch Jones is out as #Vols head coach, source tells me. He just informed his staff.
11:46 AM · Nov 12, 2017
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 12, 2017, 11:05:25 am
Breaking news with UT... Where is Dusty?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 12, 2017, 11:05:41 am
Haha. You beat me here.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 11:07:03 am
Lol

I came running.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 11:07:15 am
https://youtu.be/fdtg3FqtEEg
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 12, 2017, 11:46:29 am
About time they pulled the plug on Butch.  That should have happened weeks ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 12, 2017, 11:57:05 am
There's a good chance the next coach to get the axe will be Mike Riley at Nebraska.  Falling to 4-6 after losing to Minnesota 54-21 isn't something Cornhusker fans are used to.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 12, 2017, 12:18:01 pm
If Scott Frost doesn’t take the  Nebraska job it may cause a riot in in Nebraska.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 12:38:24 pm
Thats why Florida wont hire Frost.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 01:50:37 pm
Let me make myself clear so I dont end up looking dumber than you all already think I am.

Jon Gruden's just a dream and probably not a very realistic one.

My guess is it'll be Dan Mullen or Chip Kelly.

It wouldn't stun me if they go cheap like always though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 12, 2017, 02:14:55 pm
Let me make myself clear so I dont end up looking dumber than you all already think I am.

It wouldn't stun me if they go cheap like always though.
  Like Bennett says, Mike Riley may soon be available.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 12, 2017, 02:23:33 pm
Why is Mullen leaving a good sec job for a mediocre one?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 12, 2017, 02:59:14 pm
Hiring a good is hard and fans always think established X coach will leave for their program.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 03:23:59 pm
Why is Mullen leaving a good sec job for a mediocre one?

Who are you a fan of?

Mediocre?

Mediocre as in having a bad run Ill agree with but every program goes through that.

Nothing else about a top 10 all time winningest program is mediocre.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 12, 2017, 03:33:03 pm
Any program can have a rough couple decades.

Tennessee isn’t a top 10 team by wins or winning percentage.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 04:41:58 pm
Wrong...

https://www.google.com/amp/social.quintevents.com/bid/204365/the-top-10-winningest-college-football-teams-and-coaches-of-all-time%3fhs_amp=true
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 12, 2017, 05:59:50 pm
I see a top 10 list in your link, I don’t see Tennessee listed...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 12, 2017, 06:17:22 pm
Harvard and Penn are no longer Div 1 schools, so Tennessee sneaks in.. its in the fine print.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 06:36:09 pm
https://youtu.be/-rBkdXRV3Cw
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 12, 2017, 06:50:56 pm
Harvard and Penn are no longer Div 1 schools, so Tennessee sneaks in.. its in the fine print.

Yet they have more national championships than Tennessee and are still on the list.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 07:38:51 pm
Where's Creighton on it?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 12, 2017, 07:44:01 pm
Quote
Former Oregon and NFL coach Chip Kelly: I talked to somebody close to Kelly who said if he felt the people were right, he might be interested in a place like Tennessee. The lack of stability there could be an issue. I would be surprised if he's in the mix, but I wouldn't write it off. -- Rittenberg

That’s who UT needs to go all-in on.  If they play their cards right, they might even have a punchers chance on him.  It sounds like UT’s facilities are better than Florida’s, and Guarantano seems like a tailor made fit for his offense. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 08:14:49 pm
Gruden and Mullen...

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/11/why_jon_gruden_to_tennessee_ru.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 08:17:15 pm
Im not making this up so dont hate on me but I learned tonight that word is Chip Kelly is gay.

That wont fly in the good ol' SEC.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 08:19:05 pm
https://www.google.com/amp/www.phillymag.com/news/2013/01/17/google-asks-chip-kelly-gay-eagles-coach/%3famp=1
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 12, 2017, 08:50:05 pm
Where's Creighton on it?

Creighton hasn’t had a football team since the 1940’s. Creighton’s men basketball team has a much better history than Tennessee, especially since the only time they’ve been good was under a known cheater in Bruce Pearl. I know it is tough for Tennesee’s fan, but they are a women basketball school.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 12, 2017, 08:52:59 pm
UT currently has an active losing streak against every other team in the SEC.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 12, 2017, 08:54:43 pm
Omaha Creighton Prep is pretty tough.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 09:31:51 pm
Creighton hasn’t had a football team since the 1940’s. Creighton’s men basketball team has a much better history than Tennessee, especially since the only time they’ve been good was under a known cheater in Bruce Pearl. I know it is tough for Tennesee’s fan, but they are a women basketball school.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_teams_with_the_most_victories_in_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_college_basketball

Tennessee mens basketball comes in at a much better than expected 44th all time in wins.

Creighton not on the list unfortunately.

And I can assure you that you all care more about UT womens basketball than the people around here do.

The only people who watch it here are kids,blue hairs, and butch's.

The do sell out regularly though if you consider every boy scout,girl scout,and rec league sport kid around gets free tickets.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 12, 2017, 10:10:03 pm
Whoopsy  http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21393623/tennessee-volunteers-see-four-decommitments-butch-jones-firing
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 12, 2017, 11:59:34 pm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_teams_with_the_most_victories_in_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_college_basketball

Tennessee mens basketball comes in at a much better than expected 44th all time in wins.

Creighton not on the list unfortunately.

And I can assure you that you all care more about UT womens basketball than the people around here do.

The only people who watch it here are kids,blue hairs, and butch's.

The do sell out regularly though if you consider every boy scout,girl scout,and rec league sport kid around gets free tickets.

All time wins are dependent on seasons played. Tennessee started in 1909 and Creighton started in 1915 + 1 year in 1911 and they are only 76 wins behind Tennessee. Creighton has .605 winning percentage to Tennessee .607.

Creighton is top 5 in national attendance and is significantly out recruiting Tennessee. It won’t be long until Creighton catches Tennessee in both wins and percentage.


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 13, 2017, 02:56:22 am
But they havent yet so thats why I was wondering where this leg you got to talk **** on came from.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 13, 2017, 06:42:21 am
Because being #44 on an all time win list isn’t impressive and I thought you could handle it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 15, 2017, 03:12:00 pm
OK Dusty, I'll raise the chances UT can convince Gruden to leave ESPN from 0% to maybe 5%.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21421918
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 15, 2017, 03:14:30 pm
If they offer to make him the highest paid college football coach he's not going to say no especially if it's one of these sweetheart deals that's an 8 year contract with half your salary per year in a buyout so if you fail in three years you still make 20 million 25 million in a buyout
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 15, 2017, 03:23:53 pm
He sure didnt say "no"...

https://youtu.be/xuDzAnCKLUc
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 15, 2017, 03:29:00 pm
There's so much smoke to this it'll blind you that's why I stopped posting everything here because I dont know what to believe.

Believing and hoping are two different things.

I do believe the longer this draws out the less likely it's Gruden.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 15, 2017, 04:13:57 pm
Im starting to think we might have caught our big fish.

You all dont care so I wont say another word about it until a coach is named.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 15, 2017, 04:31:08 pm
If they offer to make him the highest paid college football coach he's not going to say no especially if it's one of these sweetheart deals that's an 8 year contract with half your salary per year in a buyout so if you fail in three years you still make 20 million 25 million in a buyout
Hell, I'll take that deal.  If I onside every kickoff, I should be fishing in no time.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 15, 2017, 05:53:48 pm
Thats basically what charlie weiss did...

If gruden is given a chance to double his substantial net worth in a term of 3 years... he will do it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 15, 2017, 05:58:52 pm
Im starting to think we might have caught our big fish.

You all dont care so I wont say another word about it until a coach is named.

Very high school girl of you... who is the big fish? Nick Saban?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 15, 2017, 06:08:50 pm
Ive always been told that college football is a lot more important in the SEC than it is anywhere else so if you're not from around here you wouldnt understand but people go batshit crazy over this stuff.

Im talking 5000 post threads getting filled up every day with "Grumors" so you dont really know what to believe.

I mean these folks are tracking planes and everything.

From what I can see and it could all be dead wrong it's starting to look like its close to happening as in 24-48 hours.

The fact that UTs AD has been telling recruits that they'd have a coach in a matter of days says it's a currently unemployed coach.

The rumor mill says we're meeting with him tonight to close the deal and he sure didnt deny interest on M&M.

Also assistant coaches are starting to come out and say that Gruden has contacted them.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 16, 2017, 10:06:07 am
Very high school girl of you... who is the big fish? Nick Saban?

Stop posting stuff like that or the next thing you know we'll get Roy Moore on the board.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 16, 2017, 11:51:09 am
Best evidence yet. I think we've caught our big fish...

https://twitter.com/DylonMcGregor13/status/931206754150572037
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 16, 2017, 12:50:53 pm
BTW... i am confused... why hire gruden? does he have some super awesome recruiting abilities i'm unaware of? seems like a recipe for failure to throw him into SEC recruiting.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on November 17, 2017, 06:58:45 am
So today is the last day for the Mike and Mike morning show.  It will now be Trey Wingo and Mike Golic.

Mike Greenberg is going to be named the UT head coach at the end of today's show.  Tune in now so you don't miss it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on November 17, 2017, 12:06:22 pm
But Greenie isn't a big fish...he's a minnow
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on November 17, 2017, 02:00:23 pm
But Greenie isn't a big fish...he's a minnow

He may be a baby whale.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 17, 2017, 04:28:03 pm
If UT hires another Google coach like Mike Norvell I might just have to admit we are a mediocre program.

I'd rather have David Cutcliffe.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 17, 2017, 04:59:26 pm
Yeah, Norvell hasn't had any success...he'd be a horrible choice.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 17, 2017, 08:34:07 pm
Yeah, Norvell hasn't had any success...he'd be a horrible choice.

Innovative coaches are not interested in the UT job when UF job is available... 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 17, 2017, 09:27:35 pm
Man you all are trying your best to talk **** to me. Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on November 17, 2017, 11:52:32 pm
Man you all are trying your best to talk **** to me. Lol

I don't know....from someone not involved in said talking, their efforts really seem half-hearted at best.  I think most posters could do a much better job if they applied themselves.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 18, 2017, 12:11:08 am
Oh Im certain of it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 18, 2017, 05:58:10 pm
Looks like the chances of Jon Gruden going back to his roots and rejoining the Big Orange are getting stronger and stronger . . .

Quote
Jon Gruden - C - Free Agent

Pewter Report’s Scott Reynolds believes there’s "interest on both sides" between the Bucs and Jon Gruden.

Gruden has been broadcasting with ESPN since getting fired from Tampa in 2008. He’s turned down multiple offers from teams, but hasn’t ruled out a return to coaching. With Dirk Koetter on the hot seat, it’s possible the Bucs reunite with Gruden after the season. Tampa has a franchise quarterback in Jameis Winston and a playoff-caliber roster. There are behind-the-scene rumors the Bucs are the job Gruden wants.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 18, 2017, 09:23:40 pm
Big Oranges ass.

That's why he was in Knoxville again today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 18, 2017, 10:35:58 pm
Ill say this.

You all have known me for 15 years and you all know Ive been wrong a million times but either we've got Jon Gruden or he absolutely loves trolling Tennessee fans.

Ill believe it when he steps to the podium.

Im betting Dan Mullen or Mike Norvell.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 18, 2017, 10:38:56 pm
Mike Riley is a nice guy who has overseen a number of mediocre programs.  Give him a call.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 18, 2017, 10:54:06 pm
I love you Curt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 18, 2017, 11:10:55 pm
FAU has an young coach. Either Nebraska or Tennessee should give him a call.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 19, 2017, 12:44:46 am
One of the slickest football plays you'll ever see. 

It reminds me of when the second half of a basketball game still started with a jump ball and the teammates of the guy who got the tip all ran towards the wrong basket.  The defense followed them and the guy with the ball went in for an uncontested layup.

https://youtu.be/7m2UpE_Ei7s
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 19, 2017, 03:03:17 am
FAU has an young coach. Either Nebraska or Tennessee should give him a call.

I'd take Lane back in a second over some of the names Ive seen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on November 19, 2017, 06:46:01 am
Big Oranges ass.

That's why he was in Knoxville again today.

He was not in Knoxville.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 19, 2017, 08:06:30 am
Lol

I know now but I assume you saw the picture with Peyton Manning that was going around.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on November 19, 2017, 09:23:33 am
I'm thinking it's going to be Les Miles.  He must miss losing to Bama and no one does that better than Tennessee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 19, 2017, 11:30:07 pm
It's funny, but the one thing GarPax have done right - Markkanen - was pure luck.  They never even scouted him, just picked him because he was the highest-ranked played left on the board.  You almost hope he's not enough to save their jobs, but the kid is for real - he's going to be an All-Star caliber player within a year or two.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 20, 2017, 07:05:47 pm
I bet he is...

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 21, 2017, 07:46:11 pm
The Bulls were tanking in hopes of getting freshman Michael Porter Jr in the draft. Porter just underwent back surgery and is out for the year. GarPax are going to have to come up with a new "strategy".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on November 21, 2017, 07:55:49 pm
He'll still come out this year and Bagley and Doncic are rated just as high.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 21, 2017, 08:41:38 pm
Doncic is the best player on the board, so if the Bulls don't screw up getting the #1 pick that's the guy they should be after.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 21, 2017, 11:37:16 pm
You always think the foreign player in the best player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 22, 2017, 01:32:55 am
Me and the vast majority of scouts covering this draft.  But whatever paranoid fantasy floats your boat.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 22, 2017, 02:02:02 am
It's paranoid to notice you praise foreign players in baseball and basketball to a high degree. Guessing everyone's paranoid then.

Anywho, here are a few links to draft rankings that have Doncic somewhere other than #1, and that was on the first page of search results.

https://www.si.com/nba/nba-draft-2018-prospect-rankings-big-board

http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/no-slam-dunk-michael-porters-back-surgery-plants-doubt-into-2018-nba-draft/

https://www.si.com/nba/nba-mock-draft-2018

https://247sports.com/Article/Big-Board-Top-20-prospects-for-the-2018-NBA-Draft-109796264




Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Exile236 on November 22, 2017, 07:18:26 pm
He'll still come out this year and Bagley and Doncic are rated just as high.

Ayton as well.

It was, before this, very clearly a (rotating) Top 4 player draft with Doncic, Ayton, Bagley, and Porter headlining... and then Mohammed Bamba as the 5th guy after those four.

FWIW Ayton would be my choice as of this moment.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2017, 07:17:27 pm
As the final hours of the coaching search wind down it looks like these 3 names are our top targets...

Jon Gruden,Chris Petersen,and Dan Mullen.

Wiki says we've hired our man...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Petersen

I think it's gonna be Mullen.

I'd be fine with any of those 3 or even David Cutcliffe or Kiffin.

It don't have to be Gruden.

Just get us a good one and not a bargain hire like Norvell,Campbell, or Bobo.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2017, 07:20:58 pm
Looks like Frost to Nebraska and Chip Kelly probably to UCLA.

Arkansas fired Bret Bielema.

I could see Ole Miss wanting him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 24, 2017, 08:03:19 pm
LOL, no...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2017, 08:28:06 pm
I bet you're hoping Norvell right?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 24, 2017, 09:14:14 pm
Any day over Bielema...

I actually like Wilson from UTSA.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2017, 10:27:59 pm
Thats me with Cutcliffe.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 25, 2017, 04:29:09 am
I’d be shocked if Petersen leaves the West coast. He has a lot of family ties out there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 25, 2017, 05:21:02 am
The Bulls gave up 143 points to the Warriors on Friday despite the absence of Durant and Green. You almost have to try to be that pitiful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 25, 2017, 09:51:56 am
The best part was the way Bell trolled them at every turn (and Kerr gave him a start expressly for that reason).  What an embarrassment of a franchise.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 25, 2017, 10:43:17 am
Riley fired at Nebraska.  #1 candidate for Tennessee. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 25, 2017, 11:37:02 am
Looks like Greg Schiano is an option.

Ugh...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 25, 2017, 11:45:10 am
I think it’s hilarious that you want no part of Norvell, yet he’s about to be 10-1 with a QB that UT had, but didn’t want, and a team where the best players on both sides of the ball are walk-ons that weren’t recruited by anyone.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 25, 2017, 01:15:53 pm
Dave Ive been a sports nut since I was about 5 years old.

Ive either been playing,watching,playing the video games,selling programs to go to the UT football games for free,or something my  entire life and when I have to Google a mans name in a coach search thats saying something.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 25, 2017, 01:32:43 pm
I agree. If you don’t know the name of the guy who coaches the best team in your home state, that is definitely saying something.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 25, 2017, 01:33:08 pm
Dave Ive been a sports nut since I was about 5 years old.

Ive either been playing,watching,playing the video games,selling programs to go to the UT football games for free,or something my  entire life and when I have to Google a mans name in a coach search thats saying something.
It tells me that you finally learned how to Google.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on November 25, 2017, 06:03:13 pm
I agree. If you don’t know the name of the guy who coaches the best team in your home state, that is definitely saying something.

But is it telling you anything you didn't already know?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 11:48:22 am
If its Greg Schiano then I get to start playing more cheap golf in the Fall.

I wont partake in it.

I wont quit them or root against them but I wont be buying any hats or t shirts either.

Maybe we have become mediocre.

Jenny McCarthy used to be a dime back in the day too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 12:40:29 pm
I saw something about Mike Leach today.  Now that would be a really good hire.  That’s probably the most feasible thing I’ve seen so far that would be a great move I think.

Honestly I think Leach would be a better hire than Gruden regardless.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 26, 2017, 12:57:25 pm
What's Pat Head'sson doing these days?  He's a coach,  right?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 26, 2017, 01:27:02 pm
Schiano isn’t a bad hire, but the Vol message boards are fun.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 26, 2017, 01:28:19 pm
that sure is a big fish. i guess Grumors were just that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 01:35:49 pm
I absolutely **** hate it.

You all were right.

We have become mediocre.

My Carson Newman Eagle fandom just rose considerably.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 26, 2017, 01:38:24 pm
It is hard to hire an established coach and their was never a chance Gruden was taking the job.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 01:47:38 pm
Barrett Sallee
Twitter › BarrettSallee
Tennessee ending up with Schiano when Florida ends up with Mullen would be like a Vol fan accidentally receiving salad when he ordered a $50 steak at a nice steakhouse.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 26, 2017, 02:16:56 pm
Other teams in the SEC better better be careful when they have a large lead at game's end and they are taking a knee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 03:22:06 pm
Students are protesting and state reps are raising hell too.

Just hire Kiffin or Cutcliffe back for God's sake.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 03:47:07 pm
Give me Cutcliffe and Chavis back and Ill sing Rocky Top louder than anybody.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 03:49:16 pm
@danharralson

Greg Schiano is currently concerned with the climate of the Tennessee fan base and the reaction towards reports of his contract being finalized at Tennessee. The deal may not get finalized.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 04:01:44 pm
The thing to be concerned about now is whoever they bring in everyone knows is going to be the second or third choice.  That's how you wind up with coaches like Derek Dooley.

That AD really ought to be fired right away.  It doesn't sound like they made much of an effort to get Chip Kelly in, and someone obviously didn't do their homework vetting Schiano and his apparent concealing of Jerry Sandusky's crimes before it getting this far with him.  What a fiasco.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 04:18:16 pm
And Im sure you love it dont you JR?

Currie better get us a good coach and fast or his tenure here will be a short one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 04:21:22 pm
No actually I think this sucks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 26, 2017, 04:21:38 pm
The thing to be concerned about now is whoever they bring in everyone knows is going to be the second or third choice.  That's how you wind up with coaches like Derek Dooley.

That AD really ought to be fired right away.  It doesn't sound like they made much of an effort to get Chip Kelly in, and someone obviously didn't do their homework vetting Schiano and his apparent concealing of Jerry Sandusky's crimes before it getting this far with him.  What a fiasco.

Or you can be Southern Cal and hire your sixth choice, Pete Carroll.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 04:29:56 pm
Or you can be Southern Cal and hire your sixth choice, Pete Carroll.

Good point there.
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Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 05:17:50 pm
There's plenty of good coaches to still be had.

Just gonna have to pay for them.

I bet Kevin Sumlin would enjoy Knoxville.
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Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 05:20:20 pm
I will admit that Ive never seen a fanbase revolt like this and say "hell no" and it work though.
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Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 07:28:21 pm
Yeah I don't think I've seen that before either.

And I never thought I'd see the day UT fans would almost welcome back Lane Kiffin with open arms, but it seems like the Schiano near-hire did that too.
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Post by: CUBluejays on November 26, 2017, 07:34:19 pm
Good point there.

This isn't really just having people say no to you.  This is a mess and it might put the AD's job at risk.  Nobody is going to want to go a place with that much turmoil.  Kiffin might be a best case for the Vols.  I had no clue about the Penn State issues with Schiano, I wonder if he can keep his job with OSU?

Closest I can remember to this is when ND fired O'Leary after a weak for puffing up his resume and ended up with Ty.  ND background screens now take weeks to get a hire approved.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 07:44:16 pm
Other teams in the SEC better better be careful when they have a large lead at game's end and they are taking a knee.

That was Peyton Manning he pulled that stunt against too.


Maybe Peyton had a change of heart with Schiano after that was over with, but I'm surprised he'd be on board with a decision like that. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 26, 2017, 08:17:47 pm
There’s a little bit of Twitter buzz re: a private plane flying back and forth between Oxford and Boca Raton.

Oxford, of course, is Ole Miss. Boca is FAU.

I’m not sure what to think about it...
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Post by: Dave23 on November 26, 2017, 08:24:10 pm
And never mind any of that...just heard that Ole Miss is keeping Matt Luke...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 08:48:25 pm
Lane Kiffin is about the best UT could hope for now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 26, 2017, 09:20:01 pm
After UT pays the Schiano buyout, they will be lucky to get Maryville’s coach...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 09:40:28 pm
Are they going to owe Schiano a buyout?  Holy crap ...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 26, 2017, 09:43:49 pm
No contract only a MOU. Fiasco.

They were in a good spot till UF needed a coach.
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Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 10:36:11 pm
Its a mess.

Whatever.

I cant act like I dont care because you all know I do but its just F'd up beyond all repair.

The names now are Jeff Brohm and Tee Martin.

At least my Cubs are finally good.
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Post by: CurtOne on November 26, 2017, 10:42:25 pm
Gee.  Mike Riley's startin' to look good!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 26, 2017, 10:55:41 pm
No contract only a MOU. Fiasco.

Depending on what is in a MOU it might be a legally enforceable contract.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2017, 03:15:05 am
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/as-tennessee-again-finds-itself-engulfed-in-flames-lane-kiffin-waits-by-his-phone/
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Post by: CurtOne on November 27, 2017, 07:02:34 am
Les Miles is a name that has fallen off everyone's radar, hasn't he?
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Post by: JR on November 27, 2017, 10:17:07 am
Nashville radio is ripping what happened to Schiano this morning, which I don't really listen to that much.  Pretty decent point but Schiano was talked about for a while even from their callers as a decent possibility all week last week, and there wasn't anything mentioned about Penn State until yesterday. 

This has got to be one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen. 

I wonder what would have happened if they named Schiano on Tuesday or Wednesday instead of the exact same day Florida announced Dan Mullen.  I wonder if there would have been as much of an uproar. 

All in all, still a major F up from the UT AD.
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Post by: Jack Birdbath on November 27, 2017, 10:31:32 am
If John Gruden or Chip Kelly had the same Penn State background, these people wouldn't say a word. This is the same football program that just had to settle for multimillions in a **** coverup case. These people don't care about having a good person as the coach. They just want a good coach and Schiano is not that.
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Post by: CurtOne on November 27, 2017, 10:37:32 am
I didn't know about Penn State, but what I seemed to recall is the anti-victory formation crap when he was at Tampa Bay and then there were reports of him being a bit abusive with the Rutgers players.  Frankly, I put him in the same class of coaches with Pelini and Callahan.  Good results but not a whole lot of friends along the way.
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Post by: JR on November 27, 2017, 10:40:23 am
I didn't know about Penn State, but what I seemed to recall is the anti-victory formation crap when he was at Tampa Bay and then there were reports of him being a bit abusive with the Rutgers players. 

Yeah that's where Schiano rubbed me the wrong way.  That anti-victory formation thing was ridiculous.

He would have been a C grade hire for sure even before he got ran out.
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Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2017, 11:52:29 am
I wont lie.

My anger yesterday had nothing to do with the Penn State stuff.

It was because we hired a shitty coach.
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Post by: method on November 27, 2017, 12:18:35 pm
Problem is UT fan's think they are a class A program when they are not even in the top 5 in their own conference. I am sure the AD vetted other candidates and then went after the guy he felt he could sign. There was no way Mullen was going to UT when UF was available as a job, he has ties to UF. Kelly was signed for a fairly low price contract so obviously was not a target for UT.  It also appears there are bigger spenders looking for coaches in Nebraska and Texas A&M, that relegates you to an also ran coach like Schiano.
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Post by: jacey1 on November 27, 2017, 12:20:03 pm
JR- Hasn't Schiano denied all knowledge of the Sandusky stuff? To my knowledge, he is not connected to that creep or what he did, only that he worked at PSU at the time

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Post by: Jack Birdbath on November 27, 2017, 12:22:45 pm
Of course he has denied it. They all have. However, there is tons of evidence that his behavior was fairly common knowledge and nobody did a thing. maybe he was one of the few guys who was there and managed to see or hear nothing but that seems very unlikely.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 27, 2017, 12:31:55 pm
JR- Hasn't Schiano denied all knowledge of the Sandusky stuff? To my knowledge, he is not connected to that creep or what he did, only that he worked at PSU at the time

The only thing connecting him was Mike McQueary's testimony in 2015 that another assistant told him that Schiano told the assistant he witnessed a ****. 

Who knows at this point?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 27, 2017, 12:44:24 pm
The only thing connecting him was Mike McQueary's testimony in 2015 that another assistant told him that Schiano told the assistant he witnessed a ****. 

Who knows at this point?
But the paper boy and his sister's baby sitter denied it, too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 27, 2017, 12:45:28 pm
I think credence was given to it, as it appeared that McQueary was fairly credible.
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Post by: Deeg on November 27, 2017, 12:45:37 pm
It's hard (maybe impossible) to believe anyone on Paterno's staff didn't know what was going on. Half the school seems to have known about it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 27, 2017, 12:52:15 pm
For me, the big red flag was when Sandusky, reputed to be the best linebacker coach in the country, retired and nobody, but nobody, particularly Paterno tried to talk him out of it.  As a matter of fact, it was reported by the University along with the fact that Prof Jenkins got a hair cut and a freshman girl has a really bad cold.  There are stories that Sandusky quit when he was told he would NEVER be head coach even when Papa quit.  Perhaps even by Papa.  Why?  Too many coincidences; too many curiosities.
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Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2017, 12:55:27 pm
I cant say anything you all have said is wrong.

All I will add is we consistently add top 5-10 recruiting classes so I know the talent is there and we should have no problem paying enough to attract a solid coach.

Whether its Kiffin,Cutcliffe,Sumlin,Norvell,or Martin somebody's looking for a payday.

As far as how good we are. No one is saying we're Alabama or Georgia but nobody else in the SEC is that special.

A good hire in the next few days will keep the football program in solid 8-9 win standing but there still may be problems in the AD.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2017, 12:58:29 pm
Its looking like Tee Martin and that will unite the fanbase. Will we be national title contenders? Probably not but people will still buy tickets and be happy with 8 win seasons and smoking big 10 teams in mediocre bowl games and if he's good we get him for the next 20 years.
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Post by: CUBluejays on November 27, 2017, 01:34:04 pm
I cant say anything you all have said is wrong.

All I will add is we consistently add top 5-10 recruiting classes so I know the talent is there and we should have no problem paying enough to attract a solid coach.


From 2010-2017 they only had 3 top 10 classes (last was 2015)and they years they did they had 32,30, and 27 recruits and comprised 3 Five star, 41 4 star and 41 3 star recruits.  Alabama's last 3 recruiting classes have 15 5 star, 46 4 star, 16 3 star recruits.  There is a huge talent gap.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 27, 2017, 01:39:23 pm
Hopefully Martin will be great if it's him, but they probably would be better off with Schiano if there wasn't the revolt.  Martin's a better pick to go with than Cutcliffe though.  He's probably as good as anyone to stop the bleeding at this point.


Still, what a badly handled coaching search. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2017, 01:50:23 pm
From 2010-2017 they only had 3 top 10 classes (last was 2015)and they years they did they had 32,30, and 27 recruits and comprised 3 Five star, 41 4 star and 41 3 star recruits.  Alabama's last 3 recruiting classes have 15 5 star, 46 4 star, 16 3 star recruits.  There is a huge talent gap.

I never said we were Alabama and if we're talking about a huge talent gap with them then we're talking about every team in America but about 5.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 27, 2017, 02:08:28 pm
I never said we were Alabama and if we're talking about a huge talent gap with them then we're talking about every team in America but about 5.
Exactly correct when it comes to procuring new talent.  Like they used to say about Notre Dame, they don't recruit, they select.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 27, 2017, 04:28:07 pm
I never said we were Alabama and if we're talking about a huge talent gap with them then we're talking about every team in America but about 5.

3 top 10 classes in 8 years isn't consistently top 5 or top 10 and those 3 top 10 classes where due entirely to numbers not the quality of the class.  There is a large talent gap between Tennessee and other programs. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2017, 05:41:26 pm
Keep hatin brother.

Im at Monday Night RAW at UT right now and Im fully expecting Lane Kiffin to come out Hollywood Hogan style to Voodoo Child.
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Post by: CurtOne on November 27, 2017, 05:45:24 pm
LOL
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 27, 2017, 05:46:23 pm
I can see Kiffin taking the UT job only to jump to A&M next week.
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Post by: Ray on November 27, 2017, 06:04:24 pm
I can see Kiffin taking the UT job only to jump to A&M next week.

That would be so awesome.  I'd go read the Tennessee boards for that.  If nothing else, it'd finally get that lane kiffin sewage plant name change thru.
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Post by: Bennett on November 27, 2017, 06:04:31 pm
Keep hatin brother.

Im at Monday Night RAW at UT right now and Im fully expecting Lane Kiffin to come out Hollywood Hogan style to Voodoo Child.
I’m beginning to hate how the word hate is used on the internet.  If say I prefer player A over player B, it won’t be long before someone asks me why I hate player B.  I hate when that happens.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 27, 2017, 06:13:46 pm
I'm amazed by all the newfound Kiffin love after the Schiano fiasco.  One of our local sports radio stations did a Twitter poll on who their listeners want to be the new UT coach, and Kiffin was first with 40% of the vote.

This is almost like longing for the ex-wife who slept with all of your friends and cleaned out your bank account on the divorce settlement.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 27, 2017, 06:39:41 pm
Lane Kiffin is more Brooklyn Brawler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 27, 2017, 10:20:03 pm
Greg Schiano might look like the second coming of Lombardi by time Tennessee settles on somebody.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21591832/david-cutcliffe-duke-told-tennessee-not-interested-vols-head-coaching-vacancy
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Post by: CurtOne on November 27, 2017, 10:58:17 pm
The UT AD cost them a lot of money.  Whoever they get won't come cheap.  They may even have to go back to Gruden or Schiano and offer millions more.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 01:17:37 am
Tee Martin or Lane Kiffin seem to be the leaders.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 28, 2017, 08:14:56 am
Jon Gruden's secretary: "Mr. Gruden, it's that dumbass from Tennessee on the phone again.  Are you in?"
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 28, 2017, 08:36:45 am
Wow . . .


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPudn1JWkAAJmpT.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 28, 2017, 08:42:21 am
I thought that Gruden stuff was crazy to begin with, but people wanting Kiffin back after he was probably the most hated guy in the state 7 years ago . . .

By the way, Kiffin's college coaching record, mostly spent at UT and USC, isn't that much better than Schiano's record in the years after he got Rutgers turned around.  That's one coach at UT and USC and another guy at Rutgers by the way.
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Post by: method on November 28, 2017, 09:06:28 am
In those years rutgers was not in the best of conferences. Schiano did great in the C-USA. Kiffin did it in the Pac-10 and SEC.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 28, 2017, 09:07:41 am
Lane Kiffin as a football coach is not great. Lane Kiffin on twitter is amazing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 28, 2017, 09:10:47 am
He's a great recruiter, good offensive coordinator.
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Post by: CurtOne on November 28, 2017, 09:14:18 am
Kiffin makes the most sense for the UT AD.  It will immediately deflect all the crap he's dumped on himself, as Lane will create stupid Trumplike headlines as soon as he opens his mouth.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 28, 2017, 09:46:17 am
In those years rutgers was not in the best of conferences. Schiano did great in the C-USA. Kiffin did it in the Pac-10 and SEC.

Fair enough point, although Lane never really did much of anything in the SEC and Pac-10 as a head coach. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 12:02:54 pm
Mike Gundy?
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Post by: jacey1 on November 28, 2017, 12:11:49 pm
Abe Gibron?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 12:13:34 pm
If we end up with Kiffin or Gundy we'll have rolled around in a pile of dog **** and come out smelling like roses.
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Post by: Ray on November 28, 2017, 12:19:41 pm
I think, at this point, it's fair to say that where ever Schiano goes next, he'll become a near Saban level coach, leaving Tennessee to kick themselves for decades.  Not like Saban was great at Mich State. 57% win percentage I think tho that could be wrong. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 28, 2017, 12:23:06 pm
Mike Gundy?

Gundy would be a big time home run after the craziness the last few days.  Should have just gone to him from the start if they really are able to get him.
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Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 01:01:46 pm
Peyton Manning doing work today recruiting Gundy.
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Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 01:02:35 pm
Lane's down to come back...

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Post by: CUBluejays on November 28, 2017, 01:10:02 pm
He's a great recruiter, good offensive coordinator.

I'm really familiar with Lane's work at USC.  You have to be a horrific recruiter to not bring in talent to that school.  Lane didn't recruit at the level Carroll did.  As an offensive coordinator he was a huge step from Norm Chow.  He did ok, but just like at Bama he had talent galore.  I could have done OK their.  As a ND fan I was sad when Lane was fired at USC.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 03:04:19 pm
Chris Low
@ClowESPN
Tennessee AD John Currie has made his pitch to Mike Gundy today in Dallas. Oklahoma State is home for Gundy, but he talked last week by phone with Peyton Manning and was impressed. Vols are prepared to make Gundy one of the SEC’s highest paid coaches if he takes the job.
3:38 PM · Nov 28, 2017
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 03:05:03 pm
I told you all somebody's looking to get paid every day.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 28, 2017, 03:54:35 pm
Or get a raise from your current school......
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 05:12:08 pm

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Tennessee ending up with Mike Gundy after trying to hire Greg Schiano would be like ordering tofu and ending up with a bone-in ribeye.
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Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 06:31:35 pm
Greatest comeback in UT history...

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Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 06:32:40 pm
Bumper sticker already made...

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 28, 2017, 08:36:33 pm
Well you can scratch Gundy’s name from the list.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 28, 2017, 08:38:52 pm
Well at least Lane knows where to start in negotiations.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 08:54:08 pm
Im 100% fine with Lane.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 28, 2017, 09:00:45 pm
Maybe someone like Mike Leach paid attention to that offer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 28, 2017, 09:09:23 pm
Mike Leach already has $42 million in gold doubloons buried on an island with the 5 hookers that Craig James killed marking the spot.

If I’m Kiffin I hold out for 6/$72 million, just so he can make more than Saben.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 10:53:42 pm
Its already clear that we arent the program we used to be and its clear that for whatever reason there are issues at hand that keeps the bigger names from wanting to come here.

With that said when you start to accept that then your on field expectations and standards have to go down quite a bit so just hire the first man that shows any interest and get this fiasco over with.

The longer it drags on the worse we look.

Theres no big name now that'll touch this and the only one worth having [Kiffin] we'd never hire.

I'd sure be happy with Norvell from Memphis or Mike Riley right about now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 11:41:37 pm
I swear to God I'd have Lane come out at a press conference just like this about 8 am tomorrow morning...

https://youtu.be/SHqBPw5HYDU
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 29, 2017, 07:12:16 am
It isn’t just Tennessee, getting established coaches to leave is tough.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 29, 2017, 08:28:55 am
Not for the Gators.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 29, 2017, 09:58:44 am
Gators had a former OC at a less desirable SEC school.  Texas A&M if they get Fisher would be another. 

Texas, LSU, USC and Georgia haven't been able to get an established coach.  Michigan and OSU kinda lucked into Meyer and Harbaugh, right opening at the right time.  I doubt if Meyer didn't have a mess on his hands at Florida he would have left for OSU and Michigan likely doesn't get Harbaugh if the 49ers don't implode. 

Getting an established coach requires some luck and ties to the school. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 29, 2017, 11:39:59 am
Closing in on Jeff Brohm unless that falls through too.

I'd still rather have Kiffin.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 29, 2017, 11:54:21 am
Wow.  I saw Brohm had a $15 million buy out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 29, 2017, 12:00:22 pm
5 million, goes to 4 on december 5th.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 29, 2017, 12:12:31 pm
Jimmy Hyams
@JimmyHyams
Tennessee will soon announce the hiring of Purdue coach Jeff Brohm after going 6-6 this year. Brohm was 30-10 at Western Kentucky. Buyout is $5 million, drops to $4 million Dec 5. Still owes Purdue about $750k for leaving WKY.
12:56 PM - Nov 29, 2017
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 29, 2017, 12:17:13 pm
That's a solid hire.  Pretty nice recovery after Sunday's debacle. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 29, 2017, 12:21:02 pm
In my every day travels of life I had become friends with a former UT football player by the name of Earnest Fields.

What was Earnest famous for during his time at UT?

Breaking Jeff Brohm's leg when he was the quarterback at Louisville.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 29, 2017, 12:32:38 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTJkFi06LFk
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 29, 2017, 12:54:41 pm
Its not official yet.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 29, 2017, 01:12:00 pm
Rumor is that he once dated a girl in high school who wasn't his cousin.  Won't fly in Tennessee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 29, 2017, 01:25:12 pm
Yeah it sounds like every other writer out there is walking the Brohm hiring rumor back right now.

And the s*@&show continues.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 29, 2017, 01:32:28 pm
Still hope for Lane.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 29, 2017, 01:38:15 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/JakeFannn/status/935896884882878464/video/1
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 29, 2017, 01:52:38 pm
What happens if they offer Lane and he turns them down?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 29, 2017, 01:54:55 pm
Tennessee have any stud high school coaches?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 29, 2017, 02:01:43 pm
Its not official yet.
And won't be for sure even after they sign him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 29, 2017, 02:16:25 pm
Brady Hoke come on down!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 29, 2017, 04:38:11 pm
I thought it was Dave Doeren from NC state... this is the worst coaching search ever... how many leaks are in that athletic department?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 29, 2017, 04:41:04 pm
I've turned my phone off.   You know.  Just in case.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 29, 2017, 04:47:53 pm
I thought it was Dave Doeren from NC state... this is the worst coaching search ever... how many leaks are in that athletic department?

I was thinking the same thing about the leaks.  Texas A&M and Arkansas are conducting their searches with barely a peep (and seemingly are interviewing better candidates at this point if it's down to Doeren).  You can't go a day now without finding out what coach rejected Tennessee or what coach got ran off after the fans found out about him.

And if this is true, what an embarrassment.

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I am told that UT AD John Currie made an offer to Jeff Brohm that Brohm accepted. Currie then asked the chancellor to approve the offer — buyout included — and chancellor said no. So Currie went back to Brohm with lesser offer and Brohm said no. So here we are.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 29, 2017, 05:26:50 pm
Top ten sports cities according to WalletHub

The report was based on several factors including the number of sports bar, competitiveness of the city’s teams and game-day expenses, which included concessions and ticket prices.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/new-study-says-chicago-isnt-the-no-1-sports-city-in-u-s/amp/

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Post by: CurtOne on November 29, 2017, 05:34:45 pm
That has to be fake news.  Surely St Louis is #1.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 29, 2017, 05:36:08 pm
Was this the list that had St Louis #31?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on November 29, 2017, 05:46:51 pm
I hope it's not Brohm. As a Purdue fan, we finally have a great coach since Tiller.

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 29, 2017, 05:53:58 pm
That has to be fake news.  Surely St Louis is #1.
St. Louis is being unfairly treated because they lost their NFL team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 29, 2017, 05:59:02 pm
Come to think of it St. Louis doesn't have an NBA team either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 30, 2017, 01:16:13 pm
Worst. Coaching. Search. Ever.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21619935/dave-doeren-remain-nc-state-their-head-coach-talking-tennessee-taking-program
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 30, 2017, 01:28:32 pm
We didnt want him anyway.

Its got to be in Sumlin and Miles territory now and I dont think anyone could **** about either one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 30, 2017, 01:32:29 pm
Yeah I think getting Sumlin or Miles and stopping the bleeding is the best route to take.  They might even be scared to take the job at this point, but if they get support, they can at least get the program back to respectability. 

I'm not even sure why they talked to Doeren before talking to Sumlin anyway.  Sumlin's a better coach in every way. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 30, 2017, 01:53:10 pm
Miles has expressed interest.

Hell he's younger than Saban.

Kane is politicking for Miles too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 30, 2017, 02:09:45 pm
If Miles really is interested, they should just go ahead and try to seal the deal on him right away and get this awful coaching search over with.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on November 30, 2017, 02:53:38 pm
I do think Miles is underrated in one aspect.  He is a great recruiter and has a great relationship with the players.  Just get ready to run the ball and play some defense though. I actually think it would be a good hire for Tennessee given everything that's happened.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 30, 2017, 03:05:33 pm
Sounds like Kevin Sumlin is finally getting considered.  About time.

I get the feeling A&M is going to regret firing him at some point.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on November 30, 2017, 03:21:14 pm
I could be wrong here but I actually think Miles would be a better hire than Sumlin.  I'm not sure Miles really consistently gets you over 9 and 3 or 10 and 2 at this point but I think he will get you to 9 and 3.  Sumlin had one year at a&m with less than 4 losses and usually had 5.  And player management is not a strong point with him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 30, 2017, 03:31:50 pm
Miles benefited greatly from coaching at LSU.  Louisiana has a ton of talent and that can cover for a lack of coaching talent.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 30, 2017, 03:35:23 pm
I kind of view both of them pretty equally, maybe Sumlin slightly ahead because he’s younger and might be better at recruiting at this stage.

Honestly Sumlin made A&M a destination school and created the overinflated expectations there that led to his downfall.  Before he was there, they were always second fiddle to Texas.  5 years later, their fan base thinks they should be a national title contender every year, like 30 other teams in the SEC.

Tennessee might have some overinflated expectations, but this might be a good chance to take advantage of a couple of other schools with the same problem and wind up with a quality coach that couldn’t fulfill their fanbase’s expectations and wasn’t able to go 13-0 every year at their old schools.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 30, 2017, 03:46:32 pm
There are other programs that may be more attractive for either Sumlin or Miles.  Not just money.  You want an AD with some authority and hasn't already shat the bed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on November 30, 2017, 03:52:45 pm
I think Manziel made a&m a destination school more than Sumlin. He had one year with least than 4 losses and 2 with less than 5 (his first 2, with Johny).

I can't argue about being in La helping Miles.  Im from here myself and an Lsu fan. But he recruited well in Texas and Florida as well and Tennessee needs someone who can do that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 30, 2017, 04:30:14 pm
November 26, 2017 through February 3, 2018 is a rather important period for recruitment of student-athletes.  The longer Tennessee goes without a head football coach, the further behind they fall.

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2017-18DIREC_BowlSubdivisionFootballRecruitingCalendar_20171116.pdf (http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2017-18DIREC_BowlSubdivisionFootballRecruitingCalendar_20171116.pdf)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 30, 2017, 11:47:41 pm
Bruce Feldman
Twitter › BruceFeldmanCFB
#Tennessee coaching search update: Source tells me the meeting with Mike Leach went very well. And... stay tuned.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 01, 2017, 02:02:50 am
Your guess is as good as mine if he'll accept it but it is definitely a narrative changer if he does...

http://www.king5.com/mobile/article/sports/ncaaf/washington-state-cougars/reports-mike-leach-offered-head-coach-position-at-univ-of-tennessee/293-495970166
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 01, 2017, 09:03:31 am
UT AD John Currie fired.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 01, 2017, 09:17:16 am
Mike Leach should have been one of the first people they talked to.  He would be great at UT.   Hope that one works out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 01, 2017, 09:32:21 am
UT AD John Currie fired.
What?  Why?  You mean competence is a requirement?  Who knew?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 01, 2017, 10:20:27 am
Well great now there’s this ...

Quote

Brett McMurphy
Twitter › Brett_McMurphy

Sources: John Currie was prepared to hire Mike Leach but university officials wouldn’t allow him to do so. Phillip Fulmer has been sabotaging search process in hopes to become Tennessee’s AD

What a s***show.  They should have just let Currie go through with the hiring and be done with it.

Sounds like Jimmy Haslam really does want UT football to turn into college’s version of the Cleveland Browns.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on December 01, 2017, 11:11:17 am
LOL!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 01, 2017, 12:01:00 pm
Ole Miss getting the smack laid down as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 01, 2017, 12:07:52 pm
We're past the point of making excuses or even attempting damage control.

Its a joke plain and simple.

Currie deserved to be fired just like any of us would be if our work performance was that shitty but now instead of just needing a coach we need an AD too and there's a tremendous power play for that between Fulmer and the **** Haslam's.

Penn State showed that if you can recover from what they did you can recover from anything but we sure have a good bit of cleaning up to do.

Hire the right people and all will be forgotten in short order but if you aint careful we become Vanderbilt for a few years.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 01, 2017, 12:09:36 pm
LOL!


More popcorn Dave?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Rc8k_D3yYoE/Tw4IyOKMysI/AAAAAAAAAls/awgasVzJMfA/s320/Stephen-Colbert-Popcorn.gif)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 01, 2017, 12:25:21 pm
Currie deserved to be fired just like any of us would be if our work performance was that shitty but now instead of just needing a coach we need an AD too and there's a tremendous power play for that between Fulmer and the **** Haslam's.

I agree Currie deserved to be fired, but if he really was on the verge of hiring Leach (Who knows if that's really true though?), just let him go through with it, wait a year or two and then get rid of Currie, and end this abject embarrassment of a coaching search that's going on there.  Leach would have been an absolutely terrific hire, and the fans would have loved him. 

Hopefully he's still willing to go there once the smoke clears.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 01, 2017, 12:47:27 pm
What AD, coach, or recruit would take UT seriously right now?  Lots of damage.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 01, 2017, 12:51:49 pm
This is how you do a coaching search in the SEC.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21631488/jimbo-fisher-leaving-florida-state-accept-coaching-job-texas-am
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 01, 2017, 01:23:06 pm
Yeah, that kinda transition ain't legal in Tennessee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 01, 2017, 01:24:45 pm
No leaks. One legit high end target... Closed deal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 01, 2017, 01:51:30 pm
Jimmy Hyams
@JimmyHyams
While UT considered Reid Sigmon for interim AD job to replace the fired John Currie, Phillip Fulmer will be named the athletic director at the 4 pm presser, but don't know if full time or interim. With Fulmer at the helm, don't be surprised if pool of candidates opens up.
1:56 PM - Dec 1, 2017
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 01, 2017, 01:51:56 pm
You gotta love that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 01, 2017, 02:15:27 pm
Phil Fulmer when they named him AD...

https://goo.gl/images/q9Dm2F
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 01, 2017, 02:34:03 pm
I hope it turns out to be a good thing.  If they wind up with David Cutcliffe, Tee Martin or Kevin Steele (who would be absolutely horrible) instead of Mike Leach, though, that’s not going to look very good.

Honestly Greg Schiano would have been better than Cutcliffe or Steele and likely better than Martin as well.

Currie had it coming for sure, but like running off Schiano, the aftermath of firing Currie right now might just be making a bad situation even worse if he really had Leach ready to come.

Hopefully Fulmer brings in someone good though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 01, 2017, 03:22:49 pm
Rumors are Fulmer was working behind the scenes that turned the search into a shitshow. 

I'd disagree with Cutcliffe, he's a good coach and would be better in than Leach.  My guess is Martin and he isn't really loved at USC other than his recruiting ability.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 01, 2017, 03:35:19 pm
Phil said he's had nothing to do with anything until today but word is he was politicking for the job.

My best guess is David Cutcliffe now but if not him then someone with UT ties.

Martin,Steele,Marrone,Rodgers?

I'd be happy with Leach too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 01, 2017, 03:36:51 pm
I will say that Ive been telling everyone here at home to be patient and that this story might still end well.

Today was a good start.

We're Tennessee again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 01, 2017, 03:58:54 pm
I'd disagree with Cutcliffe, he's a good coach and would be better in than Leach. 

I think Cutcliffe's so-so record at Ole Miss even with Eli Manning kind of speaks for itself.  He's at the absolute right place for himself at Duke where he doesn't have to be a big recruiter and can just be an X's and O's guy.  He probably even knows he's at the right place for himself at Duke. 

Leach never had a QB even remotely as good as Eli Manning and still has won more than Cutcliffe did at Ole Miss.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 01, 2017, 04:17:16 pm
I think Cutcliffe's so-so record at Ole Miss even with Eli Manning kind of speaks for itself.  He's at the absolute right place for himself at Duke where he doesn't have to be a big recruiter and can just be an X's and O's guy.  He probably even knows he's at the right place for himself at Duke. 


Leach never had a QB even remotely as good as Eli Manning and has won more in his career.

If we are going to judge coaches by their first coaching stop, then Patriot fans are going to really sad.  Cutcliffe was 44-29 at Ole Miss.  You have to go back to Johnny Vaught who retired in 1970 to have a coach match Cutcliffe's record before him.  Since Cutcliffe only Freeze has matched him and Hugh got them put on probation.

Leach's system doesn't need Manning, it needs a guy with accuracy.  I doubt he would be able to get Manning to play in his office.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 01, 2017, 04:30:48 pm

We're Tennessee again.
This is a bragging point?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 01, 2017, 04:54:41 pm
Dave's an Ole Miss fan and he didnt like Cutcliffe?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 01, 2017, 08:21:13 pm
I will say that Ive been telling everyone here at home to be patient and that this story might still end well.

Today was a good start.

We're Tennessee again.

There were 3 openings in the SEC, one got Mullen, one got Fisher... you have lost your mind in thinking this ends well... welcome to being the also ran in all aspects of SEC football.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 01, 2017, 08:27:56 pm
God bless you Method and Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 01, 2017, 08:34:55 pm
God bless you Method and Merry Christmas.

Its not Christmas yet, its just the 1st of december, we have a solid 3.5 weeks to go... :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on December 01, 2017, 08:50:07 pm
Jimbo Fisher.  It's not often that you see a man **** himself vigorously in the ****.  Very, very interesting.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 01, 2017, 08:51:25 pm
There were 3 openings in the SEC, one got Mullen, one got Fisher... you have lost your mind in thinking this ends well... welcome to being the also ran in all aspects of SEC football.

Don't forget Mississippi State hiring Joe Moorhead, whom Tennessee will probably try to offer $9 million per year to steal away from them 3 years from now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 01, 2017, 08:53:25 pm
The story is that he asked FSU for a 60 million dollar facility upgrade to keep up with Clemson and SEC schools. FSU turned him down, so he took a 30% increase in pay to A&M.

The point here is not about Fisher leaving a top 10 job, its about a SEC school being able to attract that level of talent.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 01, 2017, 08:54:46 pm
Don't forget Mississippi State hiring Joe Moorhead, whom Tennessee will probably try to offer $9 million per year to steal away from them 3 years from now.

Fun part here is that Vanderbilt fans can start saying "at least we're not UT"

The only way this ends well for UT is if Peyton takes the job himself at this point.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on December 01, 2017, 08:55:30 pm
Texas A&M is not really "a SEC school".

It's a dumpster fire.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 01, 2017, 08:59:53 pm
Not sure if serious... or not paying attention...

Since joining the SEC A&M has spent more on facilities/coaches and has more wins then then UT.... 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 01, 2017, 09:57:09 pm
SEC without oversigning is a lot less dominant of a conference.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on December 01, 2017, 11:21:15 pm
Poor Les Miles.  114-34 record at lsu and doesn't even make it in into the "they are crappy but we have to hire someone" lists.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on December 02, 2017, 08:47:35 am
Cutcliffe had success with Eli in Oxford, but the cupboard was completely bare when Eli left.

It was as if he had no idea that he had to recruit.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 02, 2017, 09:18:28 am
Ray, if Frost turns Nebraska down, it wouldn't surprise me if they went after Miles.  Nebraska is not the Garden of Eden, if its people think it is.  It needs a powerful name that has some pull and can recruit.  That's why they were so disappointed with the Riley hire.  Who?  You gotta give kids a reason to want to go and play there.  The bloom is off the rose.  Pelini damaged the program, Callahan damaged the program, Riley maintained the mediocrity. Nebraska fans still think they're a powerhouse.  They need to revert to what worked for Osborne and Devaney.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on December 02, 2017, 09:54:25 am
I'm trying to imagine how Miles would do at Nebraska. I was serious when thought he could make Tennessee a yearly top 25 team but I think Nebraska might be harder.  Both teams are places that relied on top out of state recruits when successful.  LSU does have a ton of instate talent but they've landed a lot more elite out of state guys than folks realize thru the Miles years.  I'd say even more than Saban did when here tho I could be wrong on that.  Not going back to look.

I'd like to see Miles get another chance. I think, at lsu, he had just worn out his welcome and folks were tired of his shtick.  It was just time for him to move on.   But he really is an outstanding recruiter, kids like playing for him for the most part, and he will keep a program organized, etc.  He is a ceo type head coach but he is good at it.  His limiting factor was always the oc and whether he had a good qb. 

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 02, 2017, 10:51:14 am
I lived in Omaha during the peak Husker years and know.  Nebraska fans have come to accept their place in college football. Miles coaching/personality wouldn’t play well here. Frost turning down the Huskers would be shocking unless Oregon comes calling if Taggert goes to FSU.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 02, 2017, 12:00:15 pm
Frost would have already taken another job if he wasn’t going to Nebraska.  That one is a near lock to happen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 02, 2017, 01:24:51 pm
I lived in Omaha during the peak Husker years and know.  Nebraska fans have come to accept their place in college football. Miles coaching/personality wouldn’t play well here. Frost turning down the Huskers would be shocking unless Oregon comes calling if Taggert goes to FSU.
I lived in Grand Island for 8 years within the last 20.  People there are in denial.  Wood River, Frost's home, is a small town just outside GI.  My wife and I loved to go shopping during Husker games.  Nobody in the stores and the salespeople all had their nose in a tv screen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 02, 2017, 01:54:26 pm
I've noticed a huge shift in the way Husker fans from the mid-90s to now.  It is still popular and the fans care, but the national titles are a distant memory.  If Frost comes back maybe that will change, but the Husker fans I deal with are down right pleasant durning football season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 02, 2017, 02:32:05 pm
All the ones I know are pleasant, unless you're wearing Texas, Colorado, or Miami sweatshirts.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 02, 2017, 02:35:18 pm
The world’s worst are Kentucky fans.  Mostly for basketball but football isn’t much better.  Louisville’s not too far behind.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 02, 2017, 02:43:47 pm
Florida Gator fans are the worst.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 02, 2017, 04:33:24 pm
Confirmed: Frost to Nebraska
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 03, 2017, 12:22:04 am
We have a Les Miles sighting ...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seccountry.com/tennessee/report-phillip-fulmer-made-contact-les-miles-tennessee-job/amp
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 03, 2017, 12:28:10 am
While Vols search for coach, Nebraska’s Scott Frost is trying to steal QB commit Adrian Martinez--next article following the above Miles article.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 03, 2017, 02:00:46 am
I didnt know if the Miles rumors were strong enough to bring here.

Miles with Tee Martin as offensive coordinator and head coach in waiting would be a fine ending to this mess.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on December 03, 2017, 12:09:12 pm
Maybe next year, Dusty

Steve Greenberg‏@SLGreenberg  23m23 minutes ago
 
#CFBPlayoff committee leaves the #Buckeyes in the cold. It's Clemson, Oklahoma, Georgia and Alabama. The debate about what'll happen is over. The bitterness will endure. Quick post, will update:
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 03, 2017, 02:26:21 pm
Tennessee got skrude.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 05, 2017, 02:38:06 am
John Brice
@JohnDBrice1
Per a couple folks tonight n NYC: Venables & Morris names pop up a lot for #Vols. Pruitt “killed it” (very well) Monday n Dallas w/ Fulmer & Co. Miles, Steele remain in play. Lotsa talk to “bring Tee home, groom for (hc) job.” Told “Peterson talk wasn’t too promising again.”
11:30 PM - Dec 4, 2017
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 05, 2017, 08:00:11 am
Kevin Steele and Tee Martin are the worst ideas from that group.

Go get Venables so you're not trying to overpay to steal him from another school three years from now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 05, 2017, 11:22:23 am
I guess Mel Tucker also is among the final people in the running.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21676980/georgia-defensive-coordinator-mel-tucker-interview-tennessee-today (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21676980/georgia-defensive-coordinator-mel-tucker-interview-tennessee-today)

Here's what Beerfan once had to say about Mel Tucker when he was DC for the Bears in 2013.

Quote from: Beerfan21

Has Mel Tucker been fired yet???

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 05, 2017, 11:47:42 am
Vol fans will be wishing for Schiano by the time this is over.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on December 05, 2017, 11:58:54 am
Vol fans will be wishing for Schiano by the time this is over.
And many other fans just wish it was over.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 05, 2017, 12:20:39 pm
Football Scoop is saying that it could be over today.  Fulmer has talked with Tucker twice now and is trying to sell potential hires on Fulmer being more involved with the program.  This should end well for the Vols...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 05, 2017, 01:22:03 pm
Im much more positive on the future of UT football with Fulmer running things but Im not feeling Mel Tucker.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 05, 2017, 02:30:33 pm
Im much more positive on the future of UT football with Fulmer running things but Im not feeling Mel Tucker.

Yeah I can't say I'd be pretty thrilled with a guy whose last three NFL defenses ranked 30th in the league.  Definitely shouldn't have run off Schiano if he's the guy.

Looks like the finalists for the job are a definite mixed bag.  Really hope Venables is the guy, and Pruitt or Morris wouldn't be bad either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 05, 2017, 03:01:05 pm
I agree.

Give me Pruitt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 05, 2017, 03:55:59 pm
http://gridironnow.com/phil-fulmers-search-next-vols-head-coach-drawing-close/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 05, 2017, 04:12:10 pm
Fsu nails it's first choice as well. I think at this point UCF might have done a better job then UT.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 05, 2017, 05:15:34 pm
http://gridironnow.com/phil-fulmers-search-next-vols-head-coach-drawing-close/

Very disappointing that Venables and Morris seem to be out, although with this search you never know what's true and what isn't.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on December 05, 2017, 05:16:04 pm
Sounds like it will be Steele.  Guy has one of the biggest coaching blunders of all time on his resume.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 05, 2017, 05:31:19 pm
Steele would be a truly abysmal hire.  Flat out awful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 05, 2017, 05:31:29 pm
Sounds like a match!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 05, 2017, 05:51:38 pm
I dont dislike Steele as much as Tucker.

If you could get Steele and Tee Martin to come in as OC/head coach in waiting I dont think we could complain.

We're not 1998 UT.

No stud coach is beating down the door right now.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 05, 2017, 06:07:13 pm
There's pretty much no upside to Steele at all.  The guy went 9-36 at Baylor and got fired at Clemson after his defense gave up the most points ever in a bowl game.  If the fans thought Schiano was bad, I don't see how a guy like Steele is acceptable.  And HC in waiting arrangements 9 times out of 10 end up not working out well either.  If Steele doesn't work out, it's better if UT just starts fresh again with a coaching search instead of having to lock themselves into or having to buy out Martin on top of it. 

I can't say Tucker seems all that great either, but at least there's upside with him.  His NFL defenses may have been bad, but then again, he was coordinating for the Browns, Jaguars, and Bears, which may as well by the unholy trinity of poorly run NFL teams.  His college career seems to at least be off to a good start, and he was getting head coaching interviews when he was in the NFL. 

I can at least see some potential with Tucker, while there's next to zero with Steele. 

Of course, Greg Schiano would be better than either, though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 05, 2017, 06:38:02 pm
It wasnt Schiano's resume that we didnt like.

It was his character.

As far as Steele and Martin go I just think after what we've had recently Im just down for some Tennessee blood on staff.

Like I said before I dont think this staffs gonna win us any titles but they could bring stability and a better foundation.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on December 05, 2017, 06:43:42 pm
It wasnt Schiano's resume that we didnt like.

It was his character.

Even you aren't a big enough rube to think that's true.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 05, 2017, 07:03:54 pm
Are you sure?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 05, 2017, 07:24:23 pm
I wont lie.

My anger yesterday had nothing to do with the Penn State stuff.

It was because we hired a shitty coach.

Hit the wrong button.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 05, 2017, 07:46:00 pm
The Penn State stuff didnt bother me.

The fan revolt [that I had no part of] was because of the Penn State stuff.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 05, 2017, 07:50:48 pm
The day of the Schiano stuff I read it and then came here and bitched about it and then went to work and got an ESPN alert saying they backed out of it because of fan backlash.

I wasnt burning mattresses and protesting.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 05, 2017, 09:48:28 pm
Lots of Alabama defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt chatter on the UT boards.

It'd be awful hard to hate on that hire especially if we get Tee Martin too.

Im sure you all will sure try to though.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on December 06, 2017, 06:41:17 am
The Penn State stuff didnt bother me.

The fan revolt [that I had no part of] was because of the Penn State stuff.

Why didn't the fans revolt when the last coach was caught covering up **** by football players?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 06, 2017, 10:08:25 am
Arkansas looks like they're about to hire Chad Morris.

By the way, how is it Arkansas's final candidate list is better than Tennessee's?

Quote
Other candidates for the Arkansas job included Clemson defensive coordinator Brent Venables and Memphis coach Mike Norvell, who agreed to a contract extension to remain with the school Tuesday.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21688241/arkansas-razorbacks-finalizing-deal-make-smu-chad-morris-coach (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21688241/arkansas-razorbacks-finalizing-deal-make-smu-chad-morris-coach)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 06, 2017, 05:34:08 pm
Its about to the point with Alabama DC Jeremy Pruitt that he's either gonna turn us down or have a press conference.

One if the best recruiters in the country and best defensive coordinators too.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 06, 2017, 06:51:23 pm
They need to go ahead and seal the deal on that.  If Steele and Tucker are the only other options, Pruitt is by light years far and away the best choice.  He’d be a terrific hire.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 06, 2017, 08:20:21 pm
Bulls really going out of their way to get that #1 pick.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 06, 2017, 08:30:38 pm
Wins since Oct 1.
Cubs 4
Bulls 3
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 06, 2017, 08:36:07 pm
Jimmy Hyams
@JimmyHyams
Tennessee has offered the job to Alabama DC Jeremy Pruitt. The parties are discussing details tonight. A potential hang up is whether Pruitt would be allowed to coach Alabama in the college football playoffs.
9:30 PM · Dec 6, 2017
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 06, 2017, 08:36:44 pm
Let the man coach as long as he's doing his job for us too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 06, 2017, 08:55:16 pm
@Mark_Schlabach
Vols are expected to name Alabama defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt as their new coach tomorrow, barring an unexpected setback. https://twitter.com/ClowESPN/status/938600195994148864 …
9:47 PM - Dec 6, 2017
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Post by: guest61 on December 06, 2017, 09:47:53 pm
Louis Riddick ESPN
Tennessee by pure LUCK just hit a home-run and doesn’t even realize it with Jeremy Pruitt. Favorite this tweet.

Clay Travis
I’m told multiple SEC schools, including Tennessee, are pursuing Hugh Freeze as offensive coordinator. Would be hell of a hire.
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Post by: JR on December 06, 2017, 09:49:01 pm
Yeah they hit a home run with Pruitt.  If they get Freeze as OC ... wow.
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Post by: guest61 on December 06, 2017, 09:49:05 pm
Tee Martin is not expected to be on Jeremy Pruitt's staff but Hugh Freeze might be.

In the end the good guys won.
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Post by: guest61 on December 06, 2017, 09:51:32 pm
If this is truly the end of this mess I appreciate you all talking a little football with me for a couple months.

Now back to your regulary scheduled Bulls and Blackhawks programming.
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Post by: vander-built on December 06, 2017, 10:24:55 pm
Can't fathom the moral crusaders in Knoxville being ok with Coach Cotton as OC.
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Post by: Dave23 on December 06, 2017, 10:25:22 pm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171207/7ff72bd0dcb2fda1dca35552b881ec4e.jpg)
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Post by: guest61 on December 06, 2017, 10:49:25 pm
Hell if we are down to bring him in as OC I wish we'd have just went ahead and made him the main man.

If Freeze can win at Ole Miss he'd win anywhere.
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Post by: Dave23 on December 06, 2017, 11:08:04 pm
UT has a losing streak against every other team in the SEC. They suck.
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Post by: guest61 on December 07, 2017, 05:28:49 pm
We won this battle.

Those days are almost over.
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Post by: JR on December 08, 2017, 11:24:14 am
Finding established coaches is tough.  Oregon just promoted a guy with a 27-47 career record at FIU as their new head coach.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21711083/oregon-ducks-hire-mario-cristobal-new-head-coach
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Post by: CurtOne on December 08, 2017, 11:50:02 am
Oregon State took back it's old coach as an assistant: Riley from Nebraska.
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Post by: Deeg on December 09, 2017, 09:19:41 pm
UnstopaBULLS 2-0 since Niko came back.  This team can't even tank right.
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Post by: Chris27 on December 10, 2017, 12:08:29 am
Dunn looks like a player. That makes two keepers depending on what happens with Levine.
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Post by: Deeg on December 10, 2017, 12:29:37 am
All of a sudden the Butler trade doesn't look as terrible as it did.
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Post by: Deeg on December 15, 2017, 09:41:57 pm
Bulls with no Niko: 3-20
Bulls with Niko: 5-0
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Post by: Playtwo on December 15, 2017, 10:01:13 pm
Niko and Portis have morphed into the dynamic duo.
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Post by: Chris27 on December 15, 2017, 10:07:00 pm
Maybe it just takes a good facial fracture to spur development.
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Post by: Robb on December 16, 2017, 12:49:07 pm
Stupid Bulls can't even tank right.
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Post by: Deeg on December 16, 2017, 01:12:30 pm
Bulls are the first NBA team ever to follow up a 10-game losing streak with a 5-game winning streak.
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Post by: Deeg on December 18, 2017, 08:40:21 pm
How in the world do you take Mirotic out of the starting lineup when you've just won 5 straight after starting 3-20?
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Post by: Chris27 on December 18, 2017, 09:18:23 pm
Maybe the Bulls hang on to Mirotic too?

Like Nwaba off the bench as well.
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Post by: Deeg on December 18, 2017, 09:34:36 pm
22 and 13 for Niko in 26 minutes as the Bulls win 6th straight.  What odds could you have gotten on the Bulls reeling off 6 in a row when they were 3-20, I wonder.  1000-1?  More?

No way Mirotic can only play 26 minutes if he's on this kind of a roll.  Needs to be 35+.
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Post by: JR on December 19, 2017, 10:12:10 am
Looks like Nashville is about to get an MLS expansion team.  Anyone here go to a lot of MLS games or a big MLS fan? 
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Post by: wmljohn on December 19, 2017, 02:49:30 pm
Never been.  No desire to go.

WNBA = Same.
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Post by: Jack Birdbath on December 19, 2017, 02:56:36 pm
MLS games are fun. They really don't need to be expanding.
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Post by: guest61 on December 19, 2017, 03:10:22 pm
Amen Wml.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on December 20, 2017, 08:45:18 am
Quote
MLS games are fun.

Jumping off bridges tied to a rubber band may be fun too.  Not going to do that either.
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Post by: BearHit on December 20, 2017, 09:01:04 am
Are they putting the field in a bad neighborhood to try to revitalize the area?

That's what they did here near me - Philadelphia Union
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Post by: JR on December 20, 2017, 09:41:37 am
MLS games are fun. They really don't need to be expanding.

Yeah I wonder if the league is watering itself down by adding more teams.  The quality of play there still seems to be pretty far behind Europe, and I can't imagine adding more teams is going to help that.  Deadspin seemed to think a lot of the motivation for expanding is that they're not flush in cash and need some big fat expansion fees to keep its growth going.

I'm pretty pumped for this, though.  We've had a lot of soccer friendlies being played in Nashville, and they've always drawn really well.  I got to see a PSG soccer game when I was traveling a few weeks ago, and the atmosphere for that was amazing.   

Just hopefully MLS will still be on the upswing by time Nashville starts its team instead of it turning into a boondoggle for the city because the league isn't being managed all that greatly.
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Post by: Deeg on December 20, 2017, 09:51:15 am
The quality of play in MLS has improved quite a bit over the past few years, actually.  Quite a few non-American (obviously) MLS players are going to be on World Cup squads (though a bias still exists, as witness Giovinico's exclusion from a punchless Italian squad that failed to qualify).  Obviously not on a par with the top Euro leagues, but about even with the English Championship (2nd division) and getting closer to the top Mexican league.
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Post by: JR on December 20, 2017, 08:46:11 pm
Are they putting the field in a bad neighborhood to try to revitalize the area?

That's what they did here near me - Philadelphia Union

Yes and no.  They're putting it in the fairgrounds area, which isn't exactly the hood, but nothing's really been updated there since 1970 either.  It's probably one of the few areas in Nashville that hasn't blown up in the last 7-8 years, so I guess that's the next spot they're trying to pump up.  Growth is accelerating south of town, and that's headed right in that direction.
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Post by: JR on December 20, 2017, 08:49:03 pm
The quality of play in MLS has improved quite a bit over the past few years, actually.  Quite a few non-American (obviously) MLS players are going to be on World Cup squads (though a bias still exists, as witness Giovinico's exclusion from a punchless Italian squad that failed to qualify).  Obviously not on a par with the top Euro leagues, but about even with the English Championship (2nd division) and getting closer to the top Mexican league.

That's good to know.  My dad was asking me last night where I thought the top MLS teams would compare to the top teams in Europe.  My first thought was if a team like PSG or Manchester City played the top MLS teams, it'd be about the same as the Houston Astros playing the Nashville Sounds.  Maybe I'm a little off there, though. 


I'd still have to imagine PSG vs. the Seattle Sounders for instance would be a pretty heavy mismatch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 20, 2017, 08:58:37 pm
What the Bulls are doing is pretty incredible, really.  Niko promised 7-0, and he's going to deliver 7-0.
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Post by: Deeg on December 20, 2017, 09:00:36 pm
That's good to know.  My dad was asking me last night where I thought the top MLS teams would compare to the top teams in Europe.  My first thought was if a team like PSG or Manchester City played the top MLS teams, it'd be about the same as the Houston Astros playing the Nashville Sounds.  Maybe I'm a little off there, though. 


I'd still have to imagine PSG vs. the Seattle Sounders for instance would be a pretty heavy mismatch.

It would - but no more so than PSG playing a team in the upper half of the French 2nd Division.

Of course, if I were to pick an MLS team to play in, say, the UEFA Champions League it would definitely be Toronto, not Seattle.  Pretty hard to refute that they had the best season in MLS history, and they utterly owned Seattle in the MLS Cup.
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Post by: guest61 on December 20, 2017, 09:44:18 pm
I went to a ROH wrestling show at the Nashville fairgrounds a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 21, 2017, 06:58:04 pm
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-the-last-place-bulls-became-the-hottest-team-in-the-east/
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Post by: Chris27 on December 21, 2017, 08:18:25 pm
Bulls hang with Cleveland but fall when, of all people, Dwayne Wade blocks Dunn's tying attempt. Bulls shoot 56%, 40% from three, and dish out 34 assists.
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Post by: Playtwo on December 21, 2017, 08:43:07 pm
Hard to complain about that effort.
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Post by: Deeg on December 27, 2017, 09:45:08 pm
This whole tank thing is going straight to hell, and Lavine isn't even back yet.
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Post by: Playtwo on December 27, 2017, 10:26:09 pm
I didn't see tonight's game, but their effort against Milwaukee yesterday was awesome.
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Post by: vander-built on December 29, 2017, 10:45:47 pm
Bulls gonna get the Warriors in the Finals?  Should be a good series.  Bulls in 7?
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Post by: Deeg on December 29, 2017, 11:31:18 pm
In all seriousness, I think they may just make the playoffs. Unless they help the tank by trading Niko and Lopez, which they may do.
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Post by: CurtOne on December 30, 2017, 10:53:30 pm
Dusty's boy may be heading elsewhere.  http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21921030/oakland-raiders-preparing-pursue-jon-gruden-possibly-offer-ownership-stake
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Post by: guest61 on January 01, 2018, 03:05:32 am
UT couldnt give Gruden part of the university so we couldnt compete with that.

Apparently he was never truly an option anyway and it was always intended to he Schiano.

As far as the NFL goes Ive not watched an NFL game since Jim Harbaugh left SF but my boys hit a gold mine with the Jimmy Garappolo trade.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 01, 2018, 09:25:33 pm
Amazing.  Management clearly so alarmed at the Bulls botched tanking that they've ordered Hoiberg to throw games by not using Mirotic.  18 and 10 in 19 minutes and never saw the floor down the stretch or in OT.
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Post by: CurtOne on January 02, 2018, 12:45:20 pm
CBJ, the most popular t and sweat shirts in Nebraska right now read
DEVANEY
OSBORNE

some other guys
FROST
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Post by: CUBluejays on January 02, 2018, 12:52:28 pm
Also Waring Frost Alert.

Shirts you will never, ever see me wearing.
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Post by: CurtOne on January 02, 2018, 01:29:15 pm
Also Waring Frost Alert.

Shirts you will never, ever see me wearing.
Waring?  The spelling doctor strikes again.
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Post by: CUBluejays on January 02, 2018, 06:11:34 pm
Warning dang it.
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Post by: guest61 on January 09, 2018, 07:07:47 pm
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22016668/jon-gruden-welcomed-back-oakland-raiders-16-years-departure

Im very pleased that the Big Orange ended up with Pruitt and Fulmer but too bad Gruden isnt wearing orange.
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Post by: JR on January 09, 2018, 07:58:37 pm
UT is better off with Pruitt.  I think he’s going to be good.

At least that should be the end of the ridiculous Grumors once and for all.
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Post by: CurtOne on January 09, 2018, 08:24:03 pm
I hear the Ball kids and Daddy want to  transfer to UT.
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Post by: guest61 on January 09, 2018, 09:16:30 pm
If it takes the daddy to get them they can stay where they are.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 09, 2018, 10:32:36 pm
You don't want to be Big Baller U?  The Better Business Bureau could give U an F, too!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on January 09, 2018, 11:01:40 pm
The Balls would make a great wrasslin' family. 
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Post by: JR on January 10, 2018, 12:12:19 am
I can't tell you how sick and tired I am about hearing about that guy.  Why he gets even 1/10th of the attention he does is beyond me.
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Post by: CUBluejays on January 10, 2018, 08:05:28 am
Because he is quotable. Trying to break away from the big shoe companies is interesting, even if he did it poorly. He really screwed over kid #2 though. He isn’t getting drafted and now won’t have a degree and will have to play overseas to make money if he is even good enough to do that. Kid #3 is more talented, but is he going to develop enough in over seas to get drafted?  If he doesn’t he won’t even have a high school degree.
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Post by: JR on January 14, 2018, 07:41:15 pm
That was some ending to the Vikings/Saints game.

Anyhow, here's hoping for a Bortles vs. Keenum/Foles Super Bowl.
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Post by: JeffH on January 14, 2018, 07:44:52 pm
**** Foles.  **** Brady.

Keenum/Bortles or bust.
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Post by: goblue007 on January 14, 2018, 08:36:10 pm
No thank you please. TB12 again!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on January 14, 2018, 08:48:19 pm
Brady is so boring.  Anybody but Tom!
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Post by: goblue007 on January 14, 2018, 08:57:34 pm
Jags defense scares me. They are fast and loaded everywhere. Hopefully Bortles gonna Bortles
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Post by: Ray on January 14, 2018, 09:01:15 pm
The Saints game made me sad.
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Post by: JR on January 15, 2018, 09:40:58 am
Wow, the Titans finally made a bold move for the first time I can ever remember.  Way to finally not settle for being a Quadruple-A pro football team anymore!

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22108396/tennessee-titans-mike-mularkey-mutually-agree-part-ways
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Post by: DelMarFan on January 15, 2018, 12:54:43 pm
Vikings fan here.  2009.  I am not sad.
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Post by: Bennett on January 15, 2018, 02:57:38 pm
Vikings fan here.  2009.  I am not sad.
Does the NFL have their equivalent of Sabermetrics?  I like to see some stats on just how well prevent defenses work at the end of a game.

The Vikings went into a prevent defense and easily allowed the New Orleans drive that resulted in a Saints field goal with 17 seconds left that gave them a 24-23 lead.

Then the Saints returned the favor by having Marcus Williams playing very deep which allowed Stephon Diggs to catch Case Keenum's pass.  Williams then missed what should have been an easy tackle.  Some reports I've seen say Williams held up at the last second so he wouldn't hit Diggs too soon and be penalized.

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Post by: DelMarFan on January 15, 2018, 03:13:16 pm
I feel bad for Williams.  You know they were telling him "don't draw a PI call," because if he gets hit with one it's a spot foul in field goal range, and he's the goat.  If he holds up and tackles Diggs, he's the hero, but it was bang-bang with a little bit of pressure.

The Vikings kicked the go-ahead field goal with 1:29 to play, and I said "too much time.  It's an eternity for Brees."  There was zero question in my mind that Brees could easily drive into field goal range, even against a terrific Vikings defense.  At least they made him convert on 4th down.  Saints clock management wasn't good, either.  Running at Linval Joseph on 3rd and 1, when a first down ends the game, wasn't smart.

For many years, I found similarities in being a Cubs fan and being a Vikings fan in terms of crushing, did-that-really-happen defeats.  Hoping for an analogous positive finish to the football season.

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Post by: JR on January 15, 2018, 03:15:57 pm
I'd like to see them be the home team in the Super Bowl.  I wonder what the fan makeup of that game would be. 
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Post by: Bennett on January 15, 2018, 03:24:52 pm
I feel bad for Williams.  You know they were telling him "don't draw a PI call," because if he gets hit with one it's a spot foul in field goal range, and he's the goat.  If he holds up and tackles Diggs, he's the hero, but it was bang-bang with a little bit of pressure.

The Vikings kicked the go-ahead field goal with 1:29 to play, and I said "too much time.  It's an eternity for Brees."  There was zero question in my mind that Brees could easily drive into field goal range, even against a terrific Vikings defense.  At least they made him convert on 4th down.  Saints clock management wasn't good, either.  Running at Linval Joseph on 3rd and 1, when a first down ends the game, wasn't smart.

For many years, I found similarities in being a Cubs fan and being a Vikings fan in terms of crushing, did-that-really-happen defeats.  Hoping for an analogous positive finish to the football season.


And a game cannot end on a defensive penalty.

Was it Troy Aikman who said the pass interference penalty is too harsh in some cases?    15 yards might be the way to go.

I'd like to count how many times Aikman says the words "he" or "they" during a game.

Sentences that begin with

Keenum, he passed.
The officials, they called
Brees, he completed
Newton, he ran
Diggs, he caught

are beginning to get to me.  English, standard please

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 15, 2018, 05:16:35 pm
I work with some Vikings fans who are jacked.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on January 15, 2018, 06:28:19 pm
They were sober today?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 15, 2018, 07:13:44 pm
Lol

I doubt it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 18, 2018, 02:01:26 pm
What a great wife I have. Tickets bought today...

http://www.chrisjerichocruise.com/lineup/

Yes I do love wrestling.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 18, 2018, 09:33:39 pm
I once saw Jim Breuer l, one of the guests on the cruise, at the Top of World Longue at Disney World. I quite intoxicated and my wife had to convince yelling Wolf Boy at him wasn’t a good idea.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 18, 2018, 11:25:00 pm
Ive never been on a cruise.

I dread this more than you might think.

Do you get sea sick?

Is it safe for kids?
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Post by: Bennett on January 18, 2018, 11:37:59 pm
Ive never been on a cruise.

I dread this more than you might think.

Do you get sea sick?

Is it safe for kids?
Some people get seasick, some don't.  I have a sister who loses it standing on a dock looking at the waves.

Considering the type of cruise it is, you probably won't have to put on a coat and tie for your dinner with the captain.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 19, 2018, 12:21:29 am
Anybody can get see sick, but most of the boats are large enough that you won’t feel much movement. They have over the counter motion sickness pills or there is a prescription patch that you can get from a doctor.

I can’t comment on a boat of wrestlers being safe for kids.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 19, 2018, 12:28:55 am
Appreciate it.

My wife said we could get some kind of patch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 19, 2018, 07:27:54 am
Dramamine works for me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 19, 2018, 07:45:00 am
choppy waves don't bother me.  Swells flip my tummy every time.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on January 25, 2018, 10:39:22 am
In case you missed it...

https://www.cbssports.com/wwe/news/this-is-the-xfl-again-controversial-football-league-set-to-return-in-2020/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 25, 2018, 03:35:16 pm
Some people have too much money.

Stick to rasslin Vince.

Its like McDonalds deciding to serve tacos.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on January 25, 2018, 08:27:06 pm
(http://www.rockcitytimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/funyuns-taco.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on January 26, 2018, 06:14:01 am
That CANNOT be a real thing from McDonalds.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on February 04, 2018, 07:30:23 pm
Eagles lead the Patriots by 10 at halftime.

Chances of an Eagles win?  Somewhere between 5% and 10%.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 04, 2018, 07:35:14 pm
They’ll probably also lose by one point or lose in OT, since they messed up on that two point conversion earlier.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on February 04, 2018, 07:37:14 pm
I hate to say it... but god help the patriots. IF there is set of fans that should suffer... it is the egirls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 04, 2018, 07:44:00 pm
My team aint in it even though the Patriots did gift us with Jimmy Garappolo but I'd still bet on Brady.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 04, 2018, 08:12:23 pm
The Eagles are just destined to lose this game by 1 or in OT.  I need to find a bookie ...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on February 04, 2018, 08:47:20 pm
JR, Patriots 36, Eagles 35?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on February 04, 2018, 09:01:22 pm
Or 40-38?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on February 04, 2018, 09:01:51 pm
I really hope that Fuckstick **** the bed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 04, 2018, 09:02:26 pm
He won't.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 04, 2018, 09:04:54 pm
Vol For Life Derek Barnett with the recovery.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on February 04, 2018, 09:05:55 pm
Wow. Eagles with the back up QB.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 04, 2018, 09:09:06 pm
Almost a stone cold lock Brady gets them down the foiled and gets the 2 point conversion.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on February 04, 2018, 09:10:07 pm
41-41 overtime?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 04, 2018, 09:11:18 pm
Or 40-38?

Ha!  Well I was almost about to agree with you.  They wouldn’t have gone for 2 at the end if they hadn’t missed on the 2 point conversion earlier, so that decision has cost them 2 points.

Surprised the announcers haven’t talked about that more.  Chris Collinsworth is calling an awful game tonight by the way.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on February 04, 2018, 09:17:56 pm
**** Tom Brady!  **** him in the **** with a big rubber dick!  Then break it off inside him and beat him with the rest of it!

Suck it, you worthless piece of ****!

Eagles!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on February 04, 2018, 10:07:38 pm
Tell us how you really feel, Jeff.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 04, 2018, 10:38:07 pm
What a game.  Great ballsy coaching by Pederson, but I couldn't believe he didn't try and throw for a first down on 2nd down with 2:03 left. No downside there - NE opened up the playbook with that early time out. The only time he really lost his nerve all night - thank goodness it didn't cost the Eagles the game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 04, 2018, 10:43:06 pm
I wonder who Jeff was rooting for.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 06, 2018, 08:11:36 pm
I wont mention that Tennessee has one of the best basketball teams in the country and just beat Kentucky at Rupp for the 5th time in 42 years.

On yeah...we beat them in Knoxville too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 06, 2018, 08:22:20 pm
Rick Barnes has done a fantastic job for sure.

Vandy’s got a killer recruiting class coming in next year too.  SEC hoops are definitely picking up in the state.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 06, 2018, 08:40:15 pm
Creighton lost their starting center for the year with a torn ACL, plays in the best conference in basketball and still has a 23 RPI. Just how good is the Big East?  St John’s just knocked off Duke and they are 0-11 in conference.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 06, 2018, 08:52:01 pm
I wish Rick Barnes was 10 years younger.

And a tweet by former Vol and nWo member Big Sexy Kevin Nash...

Kevin Nash
@RealKevinNash
@Vol_Hoops sweep @KentuckyMBB great win in Lexington. Vols playing winning hardnose D 61-59
9:05 PM · Feb 6, 2018
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 06, 2018, 09:10:53 pm
Memphis is the best football team in the state, and UT is the best basketball team in the state.

These are strange times we live in...strange indeed...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on February 06, 2018, 09:17:57 pm
"I'll take College Athletics for $400, Alex."

This state matters not at all.

"What is Tennessee?"

Correct.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 08, 2018, 05:04:27 pm
Good news for my 9ers...

Breaking: 49ers have an agreement in place with Jimmy Garoppolo on a 5-year, $137.5M deal, first reported by NBC Bay Area and NFL Network. The guarantees for the first 3 years can be up to $90M, making it the largest three-year total in NFL history, sources tell ESPN.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 09, 2018, 01:03:16 pm
Holy Crap!

Quote
Jimmy Garoppolo - QB - 49ers

Jimmy Garoppolo is due $42.6 million in the first year of his five-year, $137.5 million contract.

The 49ers have over $100 million in cap space for 2018, so it makes sense for them to front-load Garoppolo's contract. Garoppolo will then earn $18.6 million in 2019 before taking in another $25.2 million in 2020. It's a huge financial commitment for a player who's made just seven career starts, but if Garoppolo plays the way he did last season, he'll be worth the money.

Is he the first pro athlete to top $40 million for a single season? 

And of all people to get it, Jimmy Garoppolo with 7 NFL starts . . . wow.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 09, 2018, 01:18:03 pm
He's worth it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 09, 2018, 01:21:53 pm
He turned SF from **** to not losing any of his starts.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 09, 2018, 01:25:06 pm
Yeah I mean, I get it.  The Niners deserve a tip of the hat for trading for him and then getting him re-signed for sure.

It's still pretty hard to fanthom any athlete getting $40 million in one year and for it to be Garoppolo of all people, though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on February 09, 2018, 01:50:27 pm
I wonder what MJ's  salaries from the 90's 2ould translate to today?  Didn't he get a few years at 30 million?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 09, 2018, 02:15:28 pm
There's pretty much no way MJ's salary could every equal his actual worth.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on February 09, 2018, 05:14:41 pm
He's worth it.

I would bet that by the end of the 2019 season his team and their fans do not think so.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 09, 2018, 05:41:00 pm
Why?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 09, 2018, 05:46:39 pm
The 49ers were 1-10 when JG became the starter.

They finished 5-0 with wins over 3 playoff teams.

Thats no coincidence.

Im not claiming to be Chris Mortenson when it comes to the NFL by any means but I have been a 49ers fan since the Joe Montana days and it didnt take an expert to see how drastically they improved.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 09, 2018, 11:06:31 pm
He's anything but a complete player, but there's no doubt Zach Levine is an elite offensive talent.  If he can figure out the rest of it he has a chance to be pretty good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 10, 2018, 07:33:51 am
I hope the Bulls can get a rim protector in the draft.  They're getting eaten alive inside.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 10, 2018, 10:35:21 am
I'm hoping some combo of lotto luck and tankage gets them Doncic.  He's going to be a star.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Exile236 on February 10, 2018, 07:07:52 pm
Ayton with ours and Mikal Bridges with the NOH pick would be my dream.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 10, 2018, 09:58:35 pm
In other sad Chicago sports news, the Blackhawks are going to miss the playoffs. Tonight they managed to lose 3-0 to Minnesota despite an 85-36 shot attempts advantage. That's nearly impossible.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 12, 2018, 10:40:18 pm
The Blackhawks have out-shot their last two opponents 82-41 and been out-scored 9-1.

Not that it's his fault but I wonder how much longer Joel Quenneville will survive this mess.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 13, 2018, 07:07:37 am
It's hard to see a way for the B'Hawks to turn this around over the next 1-2 years.  Q might not want to deal with the rebuild even if management wants to keep him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 24, 2018, 11:42:01 pm
You notice who isnt implicated?

The Big Orange.

Rick Barnes has turned us around the right way.

Its awful disappointing to see Vandy on it though.

You know they expected more for their dollar...

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22553502/fbi-probe-corruption-reveals-basketball-powers-broken-ncaa-rules
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 24, 2018, 11:57:34 pm
Yahoo only had access to 1 years of records and do you know what team didn’t have a top 100 recruit or NBA draft pick during that time?

Tennessee

I know Creighton is on the list because Dawkins met with Justin Patton after he declared for the draft for a meeting that Creighton’s coach was at. As long as Patton paid for his meal no violation occurred. 

Basketball recruiting makes football recruiting seem clean, so I wouldn’t go patting yourself on the back too much.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 07, 2018, 04:05:41 am
Bulls warned by the league to stop sitting all their great players (Lopez/Holliday) when healthy.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 07, 2018, 09:57:00 am
I guess Memphis is about to fire Tubby Smith?  Maybe I shouldn't have been surprised after all, but I guess I kind of am surprised how much of a disaster that hiring turned out to be.  I knew Tubby didn't like recruiting that much, but if you can't recruit talent in Memphis, you may as well just not be a DI coach anymore.  It just seems like he mailed in his coaching career the moment he took over the program.

I can't think Penny Hardaway is the answer either, but at least it helps them move on from a bad situation.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22672236/memphis-tigers-looking-firing-tubby-smith-bringing-penny-hardaway
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: craig on March 07, 2018, 10:04:22 am
I think Tubby had already mailed it when he was here in Minnesota.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on March 07, 2018, 12:56:49 pm
I think Memphis was unhappy with Josh Pastner and worked out a deal for him to take another job so they wouldn't have to pay his whole salary because they were quite unhappy with him.  So they hired Tubby Smith who was the complete opposite of Pastner.   Hiring Penny seems to be like going back to Pastner. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on March 07, 2018, 01:02:45 pm
The "Peter Principle" applies to Pastner - great as a recruiter and as an assistant but over his head as the head coach.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on March 07, 2018, 06:59:51 pm
Pastner, for whatever reason, refused to hire a solid X’s and O’s guy as an assistant at Memphis. He was given a golden key, but had no idea what to do with it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 07, 2018, 07:28:58 pm
Penny would get all those good Memphis kids and that would cover his shortcomings as a coach.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on March 07, 2018, 08:50:43 pm
Especially if he has a Larry Brown on his bench helping him...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on March 09, 2018, 02:28:58 pm
For Dusty

Wrestling icon Hulk Hogan says baseball was first love

http://www.espn.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=22703992
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 09, 2018, 04:39:47 pm
Thanks.

I saw that on Twitter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 09, 2018, 06:43:33 pm
I am really impressed with how much progress Tiger has made in his comeback.  He's currently in contention at the Valspar, but more importantly he is hitting the ball solidly and his short game has been excellent.  If he's able to keep up this level of play in Augusta, he'll contend.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on March 09, 2018, 07:43:47 pm
The big thing with Tiger is he is now pain free. If that continues there is no reason he can't return to contending regularly. Talent was certainly never the issue. If he can stay healthy it is certainly a boon for golf. When Tiger too the lead the PGA love app crashed due to too much traffic.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 09, 2018, 08:53:22 pm
I was going to watch today's round at the Valspar, but when I found out that Tiger had already completed his round I didn't bother.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 09, 2018, 09:07:22 pm
I don't know...  A spinal fusion is not a surefire fix-all, and Tiger's health has got to still be pretty frail I would imagine.  No one has ever succeeded on the PGA Tour after having one, but Tiger is a unique talent.  Of course he's also 42.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 10, 2018, 05:33:31 pm
Terrific round today for Tiger.  He's one off the lead going into the final round.  It's great to see.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 15, 2018, 09:45:32 pm
I don’t think I’ve been able to stick to one game for more than 5 minutes during the NCAA tournament without it going to a commercial.

The amount of commercial time in major sporting events is getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 15, 2018, 10:52:01 pm
I stuck through UTs thrashing of Wright State today.

Loyola Chicago is next.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 16, 2018, 07:57:27 am
Ole Miss basketball just made a home run hire for their new coach.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22774472/ole-miss-rebels-officially-name-kermit-davis-coach
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 16, 2018, 10:41:52 pm
Down goes Virginia.

A Final 4 is staring the Big Orange right in the eyes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on March 16, 2018, 10:45:44 pm
Isn't that the first #1 ever to lose to a 16?  Love it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 16, 2018, 10:59:24 pm
Looking possibly like another Tennessee-Kentucky matchup in the Elite 8, right?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on March 16, 2018, 11:14:58 pm
There are no winners in that matchup.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 16, 2018, 11:24:05 pm
Ha!  Well one thing I can say for sure is that I pretty much despise everything there is about Kentucky basketball.

Kentucky fans are more or less the poor stepbrothers of St. Louis Cardinal fans.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on March 17, 2018, 07:16:25 pm
Down goes Virginia.

A Final 4 is staring the Big Orange right in the eyes.

Or not. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 17, 2018, 07:22:41 pm
I should have known without a doubt you'd be a hater.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chiman on March 17, 2018, 07:23:49 pm
Dusty, You going to be okay 🙄
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on March 17, 2018, 07:25:09 pm
Did I mention Porter Moser, former Creighton Bluejay is the head coach of Loyola? 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 17, 2018, 07:25:28 pm
Oh yeah Im fine.

They say a good season of UT basketball is 20 wins and the NCAA tourney and they exceeded that.

I cant complain.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on March 17, 2018, 07:36:44 pm
Baseball is my favorite sport by far, but March Madness is our best single sporting "event" of the year.  The drama cannot be matched.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chiman on March 17, 2018, 07:37:33 pm
Just checking.  I thought you might be underestimating Loyola who is now 3-0 against top 25 teams with a win at Fla.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on March 18, 2018, 01:42:02 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=24&v=9TeTllpv_nQ
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 18, 2018, 07:01:36 pm
Jimmy Garoppolo's brother is resigning as head coach of my high school's football team to join his brother in SF:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/highschoolsports/ct-skr-jimmy-garoppolo-san-francisco-49ers-niles-north-tl-0316-20180317-story.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 18, 2018, 10:02:20 pm
Today’s tourney games in Nashville have been nothing short of awesome.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 22, 2018, 09:37:12 pm
So who had K-State or Loyola in their Final Four?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 23, 2018, 10:09:52 am
Dusty, just wondering do you know where you can read all of the John Currie texts that were just released?  I keep seeing stories that report on different parts of them, but I'd just like to see all of them in one place. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 23, 2018, 05:15:49 pm
JR-Ive read 25 stories about that stuff today I bet.

Let me see what I can find.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 23, 2018, 05:20:39 pm
I havent found where I can see all of them.

Just the stories me and you have both seen.

They say the report is 625 pages long.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on March 30, 2018, 10:16:56 pm
Stupid Bulls won tonight, which is devastating to their tank hopes this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 05, 2018, 12:32:17 am
Finally

(https://getbiggies.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/GM-AGA-1024x512.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 05, 2018, 04:19:46 pm
Sergio Garcia makes a 13 (octuple bogey) on the Par 5 15th at the Masters.
Video starts after Sergio already found the water on 2 previous shots.

https://youtu.be/wLgH8oMKz3E
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 05, 2018, 04:22:58 pm
He's having quite the Masters hangover.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 05, 2018, 05:00:22 pm
Spieth is making a charge up the leaderboard.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 05, 2018, 10:12:24 pm
Tiger is a stroke behind Fred Couples.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 05, 2018, 10:22:25 pm
Kind of a shame the headlines are about Tiger, and it’s “Oh by the way, the best golfer of the last 2-3 years just happens to lead the tournament.”
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 08, 2018, 04:47:34 pm
I love Masters Sunday. 4 holes to go.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 08, 2018, 06:30:22 pm
One of golf's biggest **** finally breaks through.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 08, 2018, 06:52:09 pm
That was an exciting finish.  An amazing effort by Spieth and a nice charge by Fowler.  Going into today, I expected McIlroy to win, but you have to tip your hat to Reed for hanging tough.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 08, 2018, 06:59:10 pm
I like Reed. He isn't typical, that's for sure. But come Ryder Cup time he is exactly what the US team needs more of.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 08, 2018, 07:02:36 pm
He was rock solid on those 3-5 foot putts.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 09, 2018, 08:35:48 pm
Finally, the Bulls seem to be getting the tanking right - huge draft game tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 09, 2018, 10:05:41 pm
Too late to get one of the big 4.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 11, 2018, 08:04:50 pm
76ers lead the Bucks 70-29 with 4 minutes left in the half.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 11, 2018, 08:28:08 pm
Bucks putting on a charge.  Only down 80-44 at the half.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 18, 2018, 12:33:06 pm
Bruno Sammartino was a little before my time but never the less he passed away today and was held in high regards in his prime.

He was 82.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 18, 2018, 02:14:25 pm
EightyTwo was Bruno Sammartino?  Didn’t realize we were in the midst of such greatness and never took the time to appreciate it.

Sorry to hear he won’t be posting here anymore, though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on April 27, 2018, 07:18:02 am
Cool story about a pitcher who got the yips

https://www.mlb.com/cut4/top-tight-end-in-nfl-draft-hayden-hurst-once-played-minor-league-baseball/c-273640822

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 02, 2018, 03:48:20 am
28 points on 15 shots for Curry in his first game back. What a freak.

That Warriors-Rockets title series is going to be a doozy. Too bad there’ll be an anticlimactic final afterwards.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 07, 2018, 11:13:41 pm
Preds!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 15, 2018, 08:51:32 pm
The Bulls will pick 7th after today's draft lottery. A complete waste of a season completed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 28, 2018, 10:24:52 pm
Not a good week for those who like change in the NBA.  Even playing subpar ball GS and Cleveland Lebron are still good enough to reach the finals (though the reason is obvious in the latter case).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 28, 2018, 10:49:26 pm
Such a boring result. Just goes to show you could skip the season and still end up with the same two teams in the finals. The only question is health, and what fun is that? Unlike football and baseball, there is no parity in basketball. Until they find a way to make that happen they will continue to be third.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 28, 2018, 11:06:25 pm
I don't by any stretch discount Iguodala's contribution to the Warriors' cause - he's critical.  But Houston was the best team all season and I think you could make a case that they win the series if Paul doesn't get hurt.  Also, if Irving had been playing I think Boston beats Cleveland.  Not to mention they were also without Heyward all year.

And as much as I don't much like the guy, there is something mesmerizing in what James is doing.  Basically this Cavs team is a Top-3 lottery team without him, and they're going back to the finals.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 08, 2018, 12:19:09 am
A little “nobody cares” kind of thing, but thrilled for Barry Trotz and the Washington Capitals for winning the Stanley Cup.  Coach Trotz is about as first rate of a person as it gets in pro sports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 08, 2018, 01:26:17 am
After being saddled with a name like that, he deserves a break.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 15, 2018, 10:45:13 pm
Life after football sure has been rewarding for Kellen Winslow Jr... http://amp.tmz.com/2018/06/15/kellen-winslow-targeted-and-****-elderly-women?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 21, 2018, 10:59:45 pm
Boy, this draft is really the epitome of the Adlai Stevenson nature of being a Bulls fan - it hurts too much to laugh, and I’m too old to cry.  Cheap as chips, tons of cap space and refuse to use it to try and improve. Two more classsic Paxson picks- unathletic old school big man from Duke and a 4-year senior. This is the payoff for a year of tanking and Mirotic - what a debacle. Between having the cheapest owner and incompetent front office leadership, it’s a franchise with no reason for hope.

How can the Bulls still prioritize drafting older players and demphasize 3-point shooting and athleticism? Can Paxson truly believe he’s making good basketball decisions or is he doing it on purpose?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 22, 2018, 09:32:48 am
Carter, Jr. seems like a useful piece going forward.  They expect to get another lottery pick next year and then be active in free agency.  If they don't make a major step forward in 2019-20, I'll be upset (and surprised).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2018, 09:38:53 am
Yes, nothing says "it was worth it" after a year of tanking and trading your best player than a useful piece.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 22, 2018, 10:08:59 am
They have a plan, and this seems consistent with that plan.  If they are not a strong, competitive team in 2019 and beyond, then I'll get worked up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2018, 10:13:26 am
Much of their plan consists of saving money and doing things that went out of fashion decades ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 22, 2018, 10:21:12 am
I worry about the Bulls rebuild.  To win in the league you need star players and I don't think the Bulls have any. 

Dunn, Markkanen and Carter all seem like solid to good players, but they aren't going to compete Golden State or even the Suns or Sixers cores in the future.  If the Bulls sign Lavine to a max or near max deal then that is 4 spots already locked up.  The Bulls are doing great at drafting Horace Grant, but they don't have Jordan/Pippen yet.  I will be shocked in a premier player signs with the Bulls as free agent whenever they choose to spend some money in the free agent market.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2018, 05:05:07 pm
The plan indeed seems to be "save money at any cost".  There was ample opportunity to take on Faried's contract and get the 14th pick, or Parsons' to move up to 4.  Selling the Jordan Bell pick to GS is the poster child for their cheapness, but only the most shiny example.  The Bulls were forced to sign dross all season just to get up to the salary floor.

You need stars to win in the NBA.  No star will sign with the Bulls as a FA, so you need to draft one.  Carter has zero chance of being a star.  Lauri is a good player, but he's going to be no better than the #3 guy on a real contender.  Over and over we've seen the Bulls draft "high character" guys who were too old (they're even trading for them) and came from glamour schools and lack the traits that make guys succeed in the NBA.  Cap space?  How many times have we heard the Bulls use that line, only to have it lead to naught?  Their current BS is that 2019 cap space is the key to everything and that's when Reinsdorf will open his pockets and everything will change. Well, even if you thought a top tier FA would sign with this joke of a team, the 2019 class looks terrible on paper.

The Bulls are a joke, plain and simple.  Promising to draft Hutchison for no reason apart from the fact that they're tight with his agent?  That's so Bulls. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 22, 2018, 06:26:55 pm
Sounds like the Grizzlies...except we want to spend money, we just can't get any marquis players to come here...that's how we get stuck with the likes of Parsons...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2018, 07:51:23 pm
Parsons was actually a pretty damn good player before he started getting hurt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 28, 2018, 05:01:16 pm
Quote
John Smoltz will more than likely be home for the weekend after a disastrous opening to his U.S. Senior Open round Thursday.

Smoltz had six bogeys and a triple in his first nine holes, starting on the 10th hole at The Broadmoor in Colorado Springs. Playing in an early group, he was 10 over through 10 holes and finished with a 15-over-par 85 on the par-70 East Course.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 28, 2018, 06:20:27 pm
Every amateur golfer lies and cheats.

I'd be willing to bet my house that no one here could shoot an 85 on that course.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 28, 2018, 06:30:22 pm
Every amateur golfer lies and cheats.
Dusty, you need a new set of playing partners.


I'd be willing to bet my house that no one here could shoot an 85 on that course.  I
I had a chance to play a course a few days after they'd just finished the U. S. Open there and it was still set up that way.  I didn't
 break 100 when I was usually in the high 80s there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 28, 2018, 08:22:21 pm
Ill play local tournaments from time to time just for fun but Im by no means a bad ass golfer.

When I play with someone I find myself so pissed off after a few holes I wish I had just stayed home.

I play regular enough that Ive played the last two weekends and I find that I have a much better time when I play by myself.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 28, 2018, 08:30:47 pm
Dusty, you need a new set of playing partners.

I had a chance to play a course a few days after they'd just finished the U. S. Open there and it was still set up that way.  I didn't
 break 100 when I was usually in the high 80s there.

Yeah, I played Torrey a week or two after the U.S. Open, just to experience what that setup was like.  At my level that was always a brutal track, but to say it was like a different course is an understatement.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 13, 2018, 07:26:21 pm
Bulls about to sign Jabari Parker.

I dont watch the NBA like I used to but still claim to be a Bulls fan and I know they sure need him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 13, 2018, 08:13:49 pm
It has been fun to watch Wendell Carter in the Summer League.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 13, 2018, 08:53:40 pm
Don't they have enough front court players?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 13, 2018, 10:39:24 pm
Not small forwards.  And presumably this means they see Jabari as a 3, though there's considerable disagreement about whether he is or not.

This may mean bye-bye Portis, because if Parker ends up back at 4 there's no minutes to go around anyway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on July 20, 2018, 10:13:07 am
Carnoustie, where the British Open is currently being played, has to be the most visually unappealing golf course I've ever seen.  Why don't they just quit watering the greens and make everything brown?
(https://media.golfdigest.com/photos/5b50f423f2fd710bf7f18cce/master/w_925/GettyImages-1001888854_master.jpg:small)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 12, 2018, 04:34:20 pm
Tiger's charging and got his red shirt on.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 12, 2018, 04:43:30 pm
The PGA is one heckuva tournament this year...sure didn't see Adam Scott playing well today!

He and Koepka tied at the top with 5 holes left and Tiger a couple back with 4 left.  Tiger has really putted GREAT today (amazingly, so has Adam Scott).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on August 12, 2018, 05:51:55 pm
Tiger's iron play today was the best I've seen. Too bad he had no idea how to hit a fairway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 12, 2018, 06:27:04 pm
Meanwhile, with real trouble on BOTH sides off the fairway, Brooks Koepka absolutely murdered drives 330+ on 17 and 18...which is what he does under the most extreme pressure!!

He's easily the #1 player in the world this year (despite missing the first major and much of the season)! 

What a cool customer and great role model for young golfers (except for lifting 300 before his rounds...kids will get hurt trying that one)!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 12, 2018, 06:51:13 pm
Yeah Koepka was amazing this week.  Massive drives, finding fairways, great putting, and nerves of steel all week.  Definitely showed he was no fluke winning his U.S Open’s.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 12, 2018, 07:16:59 pm
Pretty impressive effort by Tiger all things considered.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 12, 2018, 07:46:41 pm
Probably playing his way onto the Ryder Cup team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 13, 2018, 05:50:18 pm
Tiger is a Ryder Cup lock! (as a player this year)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on September 01, 2018, 08:39:14 am
Bears land Khalil Mack.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on September 01, 2018, 08:49:49 am
2 1st ++ no one knows what the plusses are yet.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 01, 2018, 10:55:17 am
What in the world are the Bears trying to accomplish here?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on September 01, 2018, 11:17:29 am
Monsters of the Midway!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 01, 2018, 11:14:33 pm
Beware of Grudens bearing gifts.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on September 04, 2018, 12:07:24 pm
BEARS got a great deal!! Why would OAK return us a 2nd rounder? Great move by Pace
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 04, 2018, 12:25:22 pm
Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm still not sure I like the Bears doing this.  They don't have anything on offense besides Howard, Cohen, and perhaps Burton, and they're going to go at least two drafts without any first round help for Trubisky.  Those two first rounders have a pretty good chance of being high picks too.

Then again I guess if Trubisky is your QB, you better stack up on defense if you're going to be competitive.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on September 04, 2018, 12:39:13 pm
You’re writing off Trubisky already?

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on September 04, 2018, 12:41:27 pm
My first impression as kinda like JR's, then somebody posed the question what 2 Bears first round picks wouldn't you trade for Mack?  The list for is really Urlacher until you get back to 70 or 80's. 

I have no idea if this is going to make them a playoff team or not, but Mack likely makes them better than anybody Pace is picking in the first round.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 04, 2018, 01:18:58 pm
Any GM in the NFL would hope and pray that, given 2 1st round draft picks, 1 of them turned out to be as good as Khalil Mack.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 04, 2018, 01:37:47 pm
You’re writing off Trubisky already?

Not writing him off, but his career seems more likely to follow the Blake Bortles path than the Carson Wentz one to me right now put it that way. 

You're asking a lot of a guy who had a limited college background and who didn't exactly inspire a lot of confidence last season to carry an offense mostly on his shoulders for the foreseeable future.  He just seems to me like a guy who if he's going to be a competent QB in a good offense, he's going to need quite a bit of help.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on September 04, 2018, 01:56:04 pm
Hard to inspire much confidence with 1-2 weapons, and John Fox and Dowall Loggins (sic?) at the helm. In your rookie season.

Nagy should help, and Pace brought in quite a few playmakers. And as noted, having what looks to be a young and exceptionally talented defense will obviously benefit.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 04, 2018, 02:22:17 pm
Well I can certainly vouch for what you said about Loggains and his couple of uninspiring years as the Titans OC.  I think the only reason why he got promoted to offensive coordinator then was because the Titans were cheaping out on their coaching staff at the time and couldn't bring in anyone better. 

I was actually surprised he managed to find another offensive coordinator position, but I guess he was able to latch on to the Adam Gase reputation there for a while.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 04, 2018, 02:34:44 pm
It's kind of interesting how the NFL coaching circles are built on connections and how guys seem to get recycled by the same group of coaches.

Like with Gase, he gets a reputation as an offensive genius because he got to coach Peyton Manning, and he pretty much gets a golden ticket for his coaching career for the next few years.  Then Loggains after his meh years as Titans QB coach and offensive coordinator somehow gets latched on to the Gase train, and he's now got a couple of extra offensive coordinator jobs he probably wouldn't have gotten otherwise, mainly because he was able latch on to a hot ticket coach who himself got kind of lucky that he got to coach Manning.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on September 09, 2018, 10:25:22 pm
Bears look about the same.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 09, 2018, 10:32:45 pm
You must have not watched last year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on September 09, 2018, 10:34:37 pm
I tried not to.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on September 23, 2018, 05:35:46 pm
Tiger!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 03, 2018, 04:29:39 pm
These are the top headlines on ESPN today.

Cubs' Russell gets 40-game suspension from MLB
Capitals' Wilson suspended 20 games for hit
Saban's $8.3M tops in pay, Meyer's $7.6M No. 2
UGA boots baseball player after alleged slurs
Lawsuit: McCoy accused of abusing ex-girlfriend
Laine: Canucks' 'Fortnite' ban just a scapegoat

5 out of 6 have to do with suspensions, accusations or bans. Is this just where the sports culture has gone? Or is this what ESPN chooses to dwell on?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 03, 2018, 04:32:14 pm
5 out of 6 have to do with suspensions, accusations or bans. Is this just where the sports culture has gone? Or is this what ESPN chooses to dwell on?

Both.  ESPN.com has basically become a sports based click bait site I think.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: mO on October 03, 2018, 04:33:05 pm
ESPN is still a thing?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on October 03, 2018, 05:06:58 pm
Scott Van Pelt is the greatest thing since sliced bread - according to him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on October 05, 2018, 12:52:11 pm
Great thread, Brian Bowen’s dad spills the beans

https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status/1047946984156516353
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 05, 2018, 02:03:37 pm
Great thread, Brian Bowen’s dad spills the beans

https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status/1047946984156516353

Wow, that's amazing.  I imagine the sleaze going on in college football has to be 10X that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on October 05, 2018, 02:15:42 pm
The sleaze is the way the NCAA and the schools exploit these players.  These payoffs aren’t nearly enough for the value they create.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on October 05, 2018, 03:09:28 pm
My neighbor his an assistant coach at a small D1 school.  His stories are interesting.  I can't believe Creighton was going to pony up $100,000 for Bowen, the job part I'd buy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on October 05, 2018, 04:07:52 pm
"Bowen Sr. said Arizona was his son’s favorite school from among a group of suitors that also included Oregon, Creighton, Texas, North Carolina State and Oklahoma State."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 05, 2018, 04:28:52 pm
CBJ, didn't Creighton pay you that much to become a doctor?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on October 05, 2018, 05:04:45 pm
I lucky didn’t have to pay them that much.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 08, 2018, 09:53:48 pm
Jabbari Parker looks like another stellar Gar/Pax addition. He's 9-37 from the field in preseason and defends like a three-legged hippopotamus.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 11, 2018, 12:34:03 pm
Rae Carruth was released from prison today and immediately signed a multi year deal with the Cowboys.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 17, 2018, 09:17:38 pm
It’s a shame the Bulls’ ingenious rebuild including trading their best player for a fringey pick just as he was about to hit his prime. And keeping the guy who sucker punched him, of course.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 18, 2018, 07:40:29 pm
Not many bright sides if you’re a Bulls fan, but at least Lavine is looking player-ish.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 18, 2018, 09:07:40 pm
Anthony Davis and Mirotic are fun to watch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 19, 2018, 08:13:50 pm
Wasn't hard to tell that Mirotic might be legit. But at least we have, er, Jabari Parker.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 19, 2018, 09:28:59 pm
36 and 9 for Niko in 31 minutes tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on October 19, 2018, 11:07:27 pm
Without the Mirotic surge though the Bulls would have had a much higher draft pick. Even if he was still on the team they’d be a mess and wouldn’t have even gotten Carter. Mostly the Bulls need new management.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 20, 2018, 01:25:44 am
How does that justify trading the guy you should be building around rather than building around him?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on October 20, 2018, 08:25:57 am
The Bulls need super stars to build around, they either have to draft them or sign them as free agents. Mirotic is a nice complimentary player, he’ll keep you from getting the high draft picks that you need. Keeping Mirotic will let you build a team that can compete for the 8th playoff spot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 20, 2018, 09:10:30 am
ROFL
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 20, 2018, 02:01:27 pm
Mirotic has looked like a hell of a lot more than a complimentary player since returning last year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on October 20, 2018, 08:20:52 pm
He averaged 16.8 ppg with the Bulls and 14.8 ppg with the Pelicans last year. He had 4 win shares in 55 games. Bobby Portis lead the Bulls with 3.5 win shares 73 games. Harden led the league with 15.37.





Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 21, 2018, 07:43:20 pm
The Blackhawks just surrendered an NHL record 34 shots in one period.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 22, 2018, 07:48:52 pm
I know some here do care so...

Roman Reigns just came out on RAW and said he had leukemia and dropped the strap.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 22, 2018, 11:05:14 pm
Wow, that sucks.  Hope he gets through that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 25, 2018, 06:25:01 am
The Bulls are certainly still bad, but sample size aside, Lavine has played like a star.  He's averaging double the FTA (9) of his prior best season, and his PER is almost double his career average.  Hell, he's even improved some on defense.  He won't keep shooting like this, but he is a good shooter - as long as he keeps attacking the basket he looks like he can be a legit NBA #1 option on offense.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 26, 2018, 07:07:43 pm
Watching the Bulls for the first time this season.  Two things stand out - first, that the Bulls team defense is unbelievably bad.  Maybe the worst I've ever seen in a lifetime of watching NBA basketball.  Appalling is the kindest thing I can say about it.  The second is that Lavine has a chance, if surrounded by the right players, to be a legit star.  Unbelievable athlete, sweet stroke from deep, and he's aggressively attacking the basket. He's making an effort on defense too, which is a good sign.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 29, 2018, 08:06:17 pm
The Bulls are down 42 at halftime and on pace to give up almost 190 points.

I realize the whole management/coaching situation setup is one big incestuous relationship, but you'd think Reinsdorf would have some self-respect and end this garbage show at some point.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 29, 2018, 10:32:07 pm
As long as it keeps underwriting the White Sox he doesn't care.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 30, 2018, 07:50:42 am
White Sox dont need much underwriting these days... they have one of the lowest payrolls in the league.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 31, 2018, 09:56:36 pm
Wow, D-Rose dropped 50 for the first time in his career tonight, and was in tears when he left the court. That’s a great moment for him after all he’s been through.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 31, 2018, 10:21:48 pm
In other past-Bulls news, Niko Mirotic is averaging almost 23 points and 8.5 rebounds on 52% shooting this year.

He has 15 points in 11 minutes against Golden State tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 01, 2018, 12:21:59 am
That Rose game, incidentally, comes on a night when the great Jimmy Butler is refusing to play until being traded.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 05, 2018, 09:11:20 am
Hilarious
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2804453-david-diehl-raiders-gave-jamarcus-russell-blank-tapes-to-see-if-qb-watched-film?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 07, 2018, 04:28:42 pm
Wonder if the Bulls' FO would be dumb enough to pass over Barrett or Williamson. 50/50 perhaps.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 07, 2018, 04:58:46 pm
Drafting is the one thing at which they’ve been more adequate than terrible.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 07, 2018, 05:25:36 pm
Adequate is pretty generous. Either way, those Duke players are not really their "type."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 07, 2018, 05:35:11 pm
Lauri was a good pick.  Carter was a good pick.  Hutchison looks like he’ll be at least an OK pick.

They’ll take Barrett if they’re lucky enough to land high enough. But when they get Lauri and Dunn back, this is probably a 30 win team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 07, 2018, 06:48:47 pm
Better keep losing then. Actually, the Cavs are going to be rewarded with one of the Dukies.

Carter was a safe pick and we know the Bulls love those. Outside of Markkanen you have to go back probably to Butler to find the last great one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 07, 2018, 07:17:41 pm
How many teams were making "great" picks drafting where the Bulls were drafting?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on November 10, 2018, 12:46:39 pm
Minnesota’s return for Butler is a lot less than the Bulls was.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 10, 2018, 07:01:55 pm
Certainly, Minny seems to have gotten screwed with that return and they're effed either way.  Bu Philly has jumped into bed with a viper now, so it won't be any surprise if they get bitten too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 13, 2018, 11:59:59 am
DUSTY, just an observation, but the Vols are way better off with Pruitt than Gruden. 

Gruden's turned the Raiders into a complete train wreck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 13, 2018, 12:47:17 pm
I said when it all ended that regardless of how bad the coaching situation looked that it all ended well and for once I was right.

Pruitt's got a lot of "ball coach" in him if you know what I mean and he's killing it on the recruiting trail.

At the start of the season I thought if we could get 6 wins and make a bowl game that he should be SEC COY and he's right in line to do that.

The future looks bright.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 13, 2018, 12:49:14 pm
Because you as a Vandy fan know that 6 wins in the SEC is the equivalent of 9 in any other conference.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 14, 2018, 11:32:19 pm
One of the worst cheap shots you will ever see.   Notice that he looks at the official to see if he is looking.

Quote
The good news? Nate Tenaglia, the Nicholls player who was elbowed and dropped to the ground in pain, not only made the three-pointer but stayed in the game to make both of the technical foul free throws.

And justice is being served: The offending player was ejected from the game and has been suspended from the team and barred from campus indefinitely, per Fitchburg State’s Twitter feed:

https://youtu.be/xbFplM7eYVA
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 15, 2018, 01:51:05 am
You gotta send a message sometimes.

That wouldnt have even been a foul in the '80s.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 15, 2018, 07:57:45 am
You gotta send a message sometimes.

That wouldnt have even been a foul in the '80s.
My favorite Cheers episode is the one where a candidate for the Boston city council stops in the bar and makes a rousing speech that has almost everyone clapping and cheering.    Fraser says "wait a minute, he never said anything" and talks Woody into running against him. 

I'll paraphrase another line from that show: "Dusty, what color is the sky in your world?".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 15, 2018, 09:31:03 am
You folks take me too seriously.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 15, 2018, 03:25:47 pm
Says every bigot, misanthrope and misogynist ever after being called out for saying something utterly reprehensible.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 15, 2018, 04:22:35 pm
Australian rules basketball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on November 20, 2018, 09:16:15 am
I'll paraphrase another line from that show: "Dusty, what color is the sky in your world?".


That's always been one of my favorite lines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gku_xU2BXBs
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2018, 07:00:02 pm
Vanderbilt has a better coach and more talent than UT.

There's a reason you didnt hear a word about UT from me this year.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 25, 2018, 06:45:30 pm
It's a bad day to be Dwight Howard huh?

Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 25, 2018, 07:09:46 pm
And a glorious day to be a homophobe...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 29, 2018, 07:10:35 pm
Surely my Vols aint gonna land Hugh Freeze are they Dave?

That's a move winning programs make.

I dont think we will.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 29, 2018, 09:20:30 pm
I’d hate to see it...man’s gotta work though...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 03, 2018, 10:44:25 am
Fred Hoiberg is out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 03, 2018, 03:39:38 pm
What a dumpster fire of an organization.  From ownership on down it's a disgrace, approaching the levels of the Stirling Clippers.  It's a shame the NBA doesn't step in this time, but Reinsdorf sadly isn't as controversial and stupid as Stirling.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 03, 2018, 04:50:45 pm
Paxson should have fired Forman and put in his resignation today as well. Kind of a bush league move to blame Hoiberg for this season with Lauri, Dunn and Portis out the whole year. Not that I am impressed with Hoiberg at all.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 03, 2018, 05:28:38 pm
Me neither but anyone can see GarPax are the direct cause of this debacle.  Of course Reinsdorf is the root cause of it, but it's obvious real change will never come as long as his family is in charge..
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on December 06, 2018, 11:35:24 pm
Larry "The Axe" Hennig has died at 82.

http://www.startribune.com/called-pretty-boy-or-the-axe-pro-wrestler-larry-hennig-was-an-original/502127941/

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 07, 2018, 09:28:44 pm
Unfortunately, Markkanen is good enough to probably cost the Bulls the top 2 pick they desperately need.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 07, 2018, 10:21:09 pm
Hard to believe, but when healthy there are several worse teams. The good news is the Blackhawks look to be in decent position in the hunt for Jack Hughes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 08, 2018, 09:07:17 pm
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The Sun-Times has learned from multiple sources that it wasn’t the locker room that Hoiberg lost, but in fact a relationship with general manager Gar Forman.

According to sources, Hoiberg was approached by several key players during the 2016-17 playoff season, including the likes of Jimmy Butler and Dwyane Wade, and told that they didn’t want Forman around them or part of the traveling party because of the distrust they had in him.

According to one player, Forman was even trying to draw up plays for the team to run, “that looked straight out of some high school [bleep], man.’’

Wanting to do right by his players, Hoiberg took the complaints above Forman’s head, and when Forman heard about it he was irate enough to want to remove Hoiberg from his post immediately.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 08, 2018, 09:28:01 pm
ESPN Stats & Info

Verified account
 
@ESPNStatsInfo
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The Celtics defeated the Bulls 133-77, tied for the largest road win in NBA history.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 09, 2018, 04:49:41 pm
K.C. Johnson (i.e. Reinsdorf mouthpiece):

Per multiple sources, players started a group text exchange debating whether to show up at practice facility today. They ultimately decided to show up and told coaching staff they wanted players only meeting, which was followed by the meeting with coaches.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 10, 2018, 09:11:39 pm
The Bulls were outscored by 33 points in the second half tonight. By Sacramento. At home. After they led by 11 at the half.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on December 10, 2018, 09:12:29 pm
Zion in sight
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 10, 2018, 09:13:35 pm
All I can think of is "that poor bastard."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 10, 2018, 09:13:51 pm
Boylan seems like as assclown of the highest order. Given that GarPax have unbreakable job security and Reinsdorf will never pay three head coaches, this could get spectacularly ugly.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 10, 2018, 09:14:24 pm
Could this turning into a dumpster fire be enough to get GarPax fired?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 10, 2018, 09:35:56 pm
Could this turning into a dumpster fire be enough to get GarPax fired?

I literally - no hyperbole - don’t think there’s a big enough dumpster fire to get Paxson fired. Reinsdorf doesn’t give a rat’s tail about the Bulls anyway, and as long as Pax strokes his ego and keeps payroll down his job security is absolute till the day he dies or retires. Maybe if things got bad enough Pax would throw Gar over the side but he’s not going anywhere no matter how awful(er) things get.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 14, 2018, 09:56:56 pm
This appears not to be a joke:


Quote
Adrian Wojnarowski

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@wojespn
Following Following @wojespn
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Sources with @ZachLowe_NBA: Deal in jeopardy over which Brooks -- MarShon or Dillon -- the Suns believed it was getting in the trade. Memphis will not put Dillon Brooks in the trade, sources said.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 16, 2018, 07:53:10 pm
Good basketball game yesterday huh Dave?

The Big Orange might win me a national title this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 16, 2018, 08:22:30 pm
Good basketball game yesterday huh Dave?

The Big Orange might win me a national title this year.
Syracuse?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on December 17, 2018, 12:09:32 pm
Good basketball game yesterday huh Dave?

The Big Orange might win me a national title this year.
does UT have players of Oriental heritage? Could put the National Championship out of reach for them
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 02, 2019, 05:21:01 pm
WWE Hall of Famer 'Mean' Gene Okerlund dies at 76

(https://c-7npsfqifvt34x24x78x78x78x2euscjnhx2edpn.g00.baltimoresun.com/g00/3_c-7x78x78x78.cbmujnpsftvo.dpn_/c-7NPSFQIFVT34x24iuuqx3ax2fx2fx78x78x78.uscjnh.dpnx2fjnh-6d3e5263x2fuvscjofx2fct-2657570821-ij5tjr0sw0-tobq-jnbhfx2f861x2f861y533x3fj21d.nbslx3djnbhf_$/$/$/$/$/$)

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/pro-wrestling/ring-posts-blog/bs-sp-gene-okerlund-dies-20190102-story.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 02, 2019, 05:48:37 pm
Hulk Hogan,Andre,Randy Savage,Elizabeth,Honky Tonk Man,and Mean Gene were the characters that got me hooked.

Okerlund is the best ever at his profession.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on January 02, 2019, 09:44:58 pm
Lance Russell says hello...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 02, 2019, 11:19:43 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk8oOq30yjk
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 02, 2019, 11:45:45 pm
I gotta say Jim Ross is the best play by play guy ever and Okerlund was the best interviewer.

Ross would probably say Russell or Solie.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 06, 2019, 06:51:38 pm
I guess Cody Parkey will need to go into Bartman Witness Protection after that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 06, 2019, 07:02:40 pm
Robbie Gould has missed 10 kicks since the Bears cut him...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on January 06, 2019, 07:41:03 pm
Seems like Robbie Gould has never missed since Bears cut him!

The Bears were SO out-kicked in FGs this season!  That was the team's #1 weakness and it cost them a playoff game today!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 06, 2019, 08:07:09 pm
Bear down...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 06, 2019, 08:22:29 pm
#Eagles QB Nick Foles on the huge win: "I'm glad we beat Chicago. I was watching the R Kelly documentary the other day with my wife and I couldn't believe how many people in Chicago enabled his pedophilia. This is their karma."

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 06, 2019, 08:35:02 pm
The sickness that is Jimmy Butler claims another victim...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 06, 2019, 08:36:07 pm
#Eagles QB Nick Foles on the huge win: "I'm glad we beat Chicago. I was watching the R Kelly documentary the other day with my wife and I couldn't believe how many people in Chicago enabled his pedophilia. This is their karma."



#FakeNews
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 06, 2019, 08:40:58 pm
I didnt make that up.

I dont give a damn about the NFL or the Bears.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 06, 2019, 08:56:15 pm
The guy who tweeted it did.

Parkey’s kick was touched at the line by one of the Eagles.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 06, 2019, 09:28:48 pm
JJ Stankevitz:

Asked #Bears tackle Charles Leno what his message to people sending hate & threats to Cody Parkey would be.

“What would my message be? **** you. You’re not in our position. You don’t know how hard this **** is.”
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on January 06, 2019, 10:15:33 pm
Good for Charles Leno.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 06, 2019, 10:36:19 pm
Good for Charles Leno.

100%.

I have no doubt his teammates will support Parkey here. But you do have to worry that a kicker’s confidence is going to be shattered after that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 06, 2019, 10:42:57 pm
Parkey’s kick was touched at the line by one of the Eagles.

Yeah I just saw that.  Hopefully that helps with some of the grief Parkey is getting.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ron on January 06, 2019, 10:43:46 pm
Parkey’s kick was touched at the line by one of the Eagles.

https://twitter.com/KingZouric/status/1082094383758000128

There are two video clips, with the second being a close-up, seemingly showing the football changing its position.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2019, 02:49:24 am
The Bears were pretty fortunate to even be in that position. Trubisky had two INT's averted by a foot out of bounds and a CB dropping the ball right in his chest, the latter leading to a Bears FG, and two more close calls.

Chicago improved significantly this year but have a long ways to go to be a champion, especially on offense.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 07, 2019, 07:34:33 am
Not that I care, but perhaps the Bears should not have played their starters the entire game last week against the Vikings.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ron on January 07, 2019, 01:18:46 pm
Nice article on how the Bears players supported Parkey after the game.  Team culture matters.

https://sports.yahoo.com/bears-fans-booed-cody-parkey-heartbreaking-fg-miss-teammates-humane-041657568.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 07, 2019, 06:13:34 pm
Wow, that’s quite an interesting move by the Packers hiring Matt LaFleur from the Titans.  The Titans offense wasn’t much more special this year than last.  Being part of the right coaching tree in the NFL can certainly carry you far.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 07, 2019, 10:54:21 pm
I was pulling for Clemson, but I didn't see this spread happening.  I wonder how Vegas is dealing with this.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 07, 2019, 11:00:00 pm
Im loving it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on January 20, 2019, 09:29:16 pm
Thomas Patrick Brady...again and again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 20, 2019, 09:37:13 pm
I'd just as soon watch spring training baseball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on January 20, 2019, 09:41:46 pm
Do the archives even go back to the Peyton slappies arguing? Ha. Fun times at the old world crossing
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 20, 2019, 09:43:42 pm
I dont care enough about the NFL to argue.

After they leave UT they dont mean a thing to me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 20, 2019, 09:47:11 pm
But FWIW Peyton and Tom met 5 times in the playoffs.

Manning won 3.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 21, 2019, 02:16:13 pm
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25817310/tennessee-moves-no-1-ap-top-25-duke-drops-no-2
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 21, 2019, 07:54:54 pm
The Lady Vols have lost 5 in a row and the boys are #1 in the country.

Times are good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 21, 2019, 09:04:57 pm
At long last, Carmelo is a Bull.  Start printing those NBA finals tickets.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 22, 2019, 02:11:51 pm
He will never suit up for them which is a shame. I think the best thing they can do for the tank is to let him play and shoot as much as possible.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 22, 2019, 03:55:11 pm
All that matters is that Reinsdorf nets 900K on the deal.  Priorities.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 22, 2019, 05:29:22 pm
Machado isn’t cheap.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 23, 2019, 08:39:37 pm
NEVER A MOTHER FU**IN DOUBT!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on February 03, 2019, 11:05:21 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 04, 2019, 02:03:21 am
https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/DyhgR32WsAAIQzA.mp4
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 04, 2019, 01:29:01 pm
SB viewership down 5%  That's a lot.  And there are skeptics who think a very small percentage viewed more than 25% of the game.  People tuned in to commercials and half time show.  It will be interesting to see a full appraisal in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on February 04, 2019, 02:14:32 pm
One market boycotted the game wonder how much effect that had of any.... its gets boring watching brady win all the time.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on February 04, 2019, 02:33:09 pm
We lost power at in our area from about 45 minutes before kickoff until late 2nd quarter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on February 06, 2019, 11:43:36 am
I wouldn't have watched the game if we didn't already have a small group party planned at our house for the SB.  I probably only watched 8 total plays the whole game. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 06, 2019, 07:33:49 pm
Sort of an interesting deal by the Bulls today, tacitly admitting that their organization is such a dumpster fire no decent FA will sign there. They took on a guy in Porter who’s paid too much but actually is a good player, giving up little (neither Parker or Portis would be back next year) in talent, but most of their cap space.

Worst part is swapping those two for Porter will help them win games, and they desperately need a bottom 3 finish to have a shot at Zion.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 06, 2019, 09:06:17 pm
OTOH, the Bulls also picked up this Luwawu-Cabarrot character and he seems bad enough to counter any improvement from Porter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 06, 2019, 10:36:33 pm
Except that with Porter on the roster Lufa-Carrot probably won't play much.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 06, 2019, 10:46:28 pm
You're underestimating Boylen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on February 06, 2019, 10:49:40 pm
Maybe Porter has a season ending injury, (wink wink).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 08, 2019, 08:51:42 pm
Can't even tank right.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 13, 2019, 11:25:22 pm
Shame they couldn't have waited and made the trade in the offseason to preserve the tank, but Otto Porter is a legit good player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 16, 2019, 07:11:04 pm
Big basketball game in Lexington tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 22, 2019, 12:36:31 pm
If you're this rich and need a prostitute, can't you do better than a strip mall massage parlor?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26055197/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-solicitation-****
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on February 22, 2019, 01:01:41 pm
If you're this rich and need a prostitute, can't you do better than a strip mall massage parlor?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26055197/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-solicitation-****

Stormy Daniels wasn't available.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 22, 2019, 02:25:45 pm
To have made any progress with Robert Kraft at his age they must have been damn good at their job.

That's why I married an Asian.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 22, 2019, 08:40:31 pm
It’s a good thing the lottery odds have been flattened out, because Porter is good enough to mess up the tank.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on February 24, 2019, 10:16:47 am
To have made any progress with Robert Kraft at his age they must have been damn good at their job.

That's why I married an Asian.


Yeah.... it is so nice to know that you're not a racist.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 24, 2019, 03:40:54 pm
Youre just mad that they wouldnt have made any progress with your old ass either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 02, 2019, 12:21:05 am
Would you trade Lauri straight up for Butler right now? Not sure I would.

If the Bulls somehow get their 1/8 break and draft Zion and sign a decent PG, they might be really interesting next season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 05, 2019, 01:51:49 pm
Im sure his father is so proud but not as proud as Reggie Theus...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6773699/amp/Ex-NFL-player-Kellen-Winslow-II-jail-lewd-act-77-year-old-woman.html?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 07, 2019, 08:40:28 pm
Well I wondered how LSU basketball got turned around so quickly.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26172472/sources-lsu-coach-wiretap-discussing-offer
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 28, 2019, 09:11:25 pm
In your life you'll watch 100 must win,huge,ballgames.

You'll win some and you'll lose some but with age you learn that if you lose any sleep over it you're taking it too seriously.

Tonight was one of those games.

I can say with 100% certainty though that in October of 2016 was the biggest game of my life and I won it.

I find it hard to **** about a ballgame anymore.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on March 28, 2019, 09:12:39 pm
November of 2016.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 28, 2019, 09:23:32 pm
Yeah.

You understand.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 14, 2019, 05:49:10 pm
https://youtu.be/Kx9fadoL9oU
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 14, 2019, 05:59:12 pm
That was amazing to watch today.  I'm not a big fan of Tiger the person, but man I really wanted to see him win that and get the monkey off his back.  Golf's way better with Tiger winning and contending in majors.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 14, 2019, 06:01:26 pm
I do feel pretty bad for all the really fantastic golfers who played well this week and pretty much have to answer nothing but Tiger questions all day, though.  Like Brooks Koepka, he showed a lot of heart and guts to come back from that double bogey on 12 to have a chance to win, and all the CBS people wanted to ask him about afterwards was Tiger.

As an aside, if there's one athlete out there today who can have a legit gripe about not getting the respect he's due for being a top player at his sport today, it's Koepka.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 14, 2019, 06:38:27 pm
The older I get the more I like golf and it's better when Tiger's got his red shirt on.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 14, 2019, 07:42:04 pm
Not a fan of Tiger the person, but it's a great story and great for golf.

The really amazing thing to me is that this the first major he's ever won where he wasn't leading going into the final round.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 19, 2019, 11:08:20 pm
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2832103-bears-safety-ha-ha-clinton-dix-says-alabama-holding-his-diploma-over-1?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

What I learned from this is that a graduate of the University of Alabama doesn't know which side of the number the $ goes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on May 04, 2019, 05:12:33 pm
The Kentucky Derby will be run in pure mud.  Post-time in about 45 minutes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 04, 2019, 06:31:31 pm
What a finish...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on May 04, 2019, 08:33:12 pm

Kentucky Derby Winner DISQUALIFIED for the first time

https://youtu.be/Ci_ychn7ga0
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 14, 2019, 07:54:49 pm
The Bulls the big losers on draft lottery night. GarPax even suck at tanking. I mean, really suck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 14, 2019, 08:08:18 pm
The Bulls should have embraced the tank. They got what they deserved
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 14, 2019, 08:14:14 pm
They did indeed get what they deserved. A joke of an organization that’s done nothing to deserve an ounce of luck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on May 15, 2019, 10:10:21 am
Paxson on the Score floated the excuse that the Bulls are better off with the #7 than #4 because it gives them more cap room to spend on FA, because the Bulls have been such a choice destination lately.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 15, 2019, 11:11:27 am
Paxson is kind of becoming the new Elgin Baylor of the NBA it seems like.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on May 15, 2019, 11:26:13 am
Hes more David Gettlemen of the NBA.  Living in a time that has gone by, and failing to adapt repeatedly.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 15, 2019, 03:52:11 pm
Paxson is kind of becoming the new Elgin Baylor of the NBA it seems like.

Well, Jerry is pretty much Stirling minus the public displays of racism.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 15, 2019, 11:27:09 pm
With the number 7 pick in the 2019 NBA draft. The Chicago Bulls select, the last athletic guy in the draft. But hey, he was from a winning program.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on May 30, 2019, 01:51:42 pm
The enthusiasm of the players in the Women's College Softball World Series is contagious.

Give the sport a try if you haven't taken a look in a while.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 30, 2019, 02:12:03 pm
The way they act ruins it for me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 30, 2019, 02:19:48 pm
I'm guessing Dusty would only like it if they played shirts and skins
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 30, 2019, 02:44:28 pm
That would help.

They wear enough makeup to make a stripper look humble too.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on May 30, 2019, 02:55:26 pm
Dusty, your act has become more than a little tiresome.  Give it a rest for a year or two or longer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 30, 2019, 03:34:49 pm
Suck one.

How about that?

I get ridiculed for my opinions on a daily basis even when they arent even anything but me joking.

If this place cant take a joke they're taking themselves way too seriously.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 30, 2019, 07:55:15 pm
To the best of my knowledge Ive been a part of this group for over 20 years and I'd be lieing if I didnt admit that it meant a lot to me.

These are the most knowledgeable baseball fans in the world and I know what I know from you all.

Ill admit that I do like to mess with you all but that's what sports fans do when they BS each other like we do here right?

Im certain if any of you all ever meet me and Im sure you will you'll walk away feeling different about me.

I know the jabs I get here are also self inflicted so if I dont get pissed when you do it you all shouldnt get pissed when I mess with you all.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 09, 2019, 09:36:24 am
The legend of Kumar Rocker grows, he's only a freshman.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 11, 2019, 10:14:31 am
Terrible break on Kevin Durant if he really blew out his Achilles last night.  He probably should never have been playing in the first place. 

That's going to be really interesting to see how that might affect free agent athletes in the future in championship games or series.  Old school says you should be playing in a championship final unless you can't even move, but Durant might have just ruined his career or at the very least cost himself millions in free agency by playing when he likely shouldn't have.  I wonder if more players who might just be merely "questionable", especially when they're free agents to be, might start sitting out Super Bowl's, World Series, etc.

We're already seeing it in college where players who are playing in what used to be prestigious bowl games sitting them out when they're about to enter the NFL Draft.  We might start seeing more of that in the pros too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on June 11, 2019, 10:25:07 am
ROBOTs
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 11, 2019, 11:26:40 am
The college guys aren't getting paid to play.  It makes all the sense in the world for them to sit out.  Jaylon Smith cost himself millions of dollars playing against Ohio State in a prestigious, but meaningless bowl game.

The pro guys are getting paid though and that makes a huge difference.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on June 11, 2019, 12:12:20 pm
Hard to feel bad for Durant.  He’ll go back to the Warriors next season, make 31 million, and rehab using some of the best facilities and professionals the world has to offer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on June 11, 2019, 12:40:17 pm
Hard to feel bad for Durant.  He’ll go back to the Warriors next season, make 31 million, and rehab using some of the best facilities and professionals the world has to offer.

It’s very easy to feel bad for him. He’s got a horrible injury and may never be the same after this.  He’s got a HOF career but this changes things and right at the time when his value was at its peak.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 11, 2019, 01:00:28 pm
$221,500,000 in career earnings in the NBA so far.  He took less money and shorter contracts to play for the Warriors to win championships.  He could have taken a long term deal at some point to set up his great, great, great, great, great grandkids for life. He was doing what he wanted to do, try and win a championship.  The injury sucks, but he took a chance and came back.  It could have happened next year to him too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 11, 2019, 03:07:13 pm
No sympathy here.

He wont go hungry.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 12, 2019, 06:26:59 pm
No sympathy here.

He wont go hungry.

It might be tough for you to grasp, but some people are not primarily motivated by money.

So, while you are right that he won't go hungry, that does not mean it is at all unreasonable to feel sorry for the guy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 12, 2019, 07:10:20 pm
I sprained my left thumb a few weeks ago at work. Do you feel sorry for me?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 17, 2019, 08:40:39 am
Fox coverage of the U.S. Open was a little better than in last year, but not by much.

There were still way too many times when you didn't know where a ball had landed.    Once the guy following the group said "you saw where it came down" even though the camera didn't show us.

Someone should explain to Fox that you don't need crowd mics to hear fans yell "in the hole" after every shot.

There ought to be a limit on how many times "that's the shot of the day" can be declared.


It was too bad the sun was not out so we could see the Monterey Peninsula area at its best.


Congrat to Gary Woodland.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 17, 2019, 09:35:37 am
Yeah Woodland was fantastic and deserved to win. That chip on #17 and that birdie putt he hit to close it out were amazing.  Sounds like he’s a pretty good guy who had to grind his way to get to this point in his career too.

Fox also spent what felt like 25 minutes talking to Jim Nantz and his replica of the 17th hole he built at his home during Saturday’s coverage, which was all that needs to be said about Fox’s coverage.  Goodness knows the only good thing there is about Fox’s golf coverage is we don’t have to listen to Jim Nantz, but they even managed to find a way to ruin that for us.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 17, 2019, 09:55:08 am
JR,

Didn't Joe Buck say in that way too long Saturday interview that he is building a home adjacent to Augusta National?  Does that mean CBS has to reciprocate and have Jim Nantz interview Joe Buck during the Masters next April?  After all, it was Fox that took the much more highly rated NFC NFL games away from CBS.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 17, 2019, 05:04:29 pm
JR,

Didn't Joe Buck say in that way too long Saturday interview that he is building a home adjacent to Augusta National?  Does that mean CBS has to reciprocate and have Jim Nantz interview Joe Buck during the Masters next April?  After all, it was Fox that took the much more highly rated NFC NFL games away from CBS.

Yeah I remember him saying something about that.  I wonder if he might have been making one really lousy joke about building near Augusta, which wouldn't be past Joe Buck to do, though.  Actually those handful of moments of having Joe Buck and Jim Nantz in the same broadcast booth might be one of the worst moments in the history of sports broadcasting or television broadcasting in general for that matter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on June 17, 2019, 07:13:08 pm
Agree with your comments, JR, about the Joe Buck-Jim Nance lovefest. Absurd.

However, I thought Paul Azinger was quite insightful.  He's always been known as a very bright guy (particularly after leading our last Ryder Cup win).  I thought he did a real good job describing what Gary Woodland had to overcome (to win):

- he pointed out that Woodland's miss way left on #9 had to put doubt in his mind since he's a left-to-right player, whose misses are right (not left) - the dreaded "two-way miss" has gotten in the head of and derailed many a great player trying to win any event, let alone a major.

- Azinger rightfully talked about Koepka's emotional advantage down the stretch, saying, "Koepka knows he can win, Woodland thinks he can win."  That's a HUGE difference a major winner with Azinger's experience thoroughly understands, but it's the kind of thing only a Johnny Miller or Azinger would say on national TV.

At any rate, I'd give Buck-Nance a "F", but Azinger an "A."

Gary Woodland deserves an "A+"!  Quite a performance by him yesterday!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 17, 2019, 07:20:05 pm
Agree with your comments, JR, about the Joe Buck-Jim Nance lovefest. Absurd.

However, I thought Paul Azinger was quite insightful.  He's always been known as a very bright guy (particularly after leading our last Ryder Cup win).  I thought he did a real good job describing what Gary Woodland had to overcome (to win):

- he pointed out that Woodland's miss way left on #9 had to put doubt in his mind since he's a left-to-right player, whose misses are right (not left) - the dreaded "two-way miss" has gotten in the head of and derailed many a great player trying to win any event, let alone a major.

- Azinger rightfully talked about Koepka's emotional advantage down the stretch, saying, "Koepka knows he can win, Woodland thinks he can win."  That's a HUGE difference a major winner with Azinger's experience thoroughly understands, but it's the kind of thing only a Johnny Miller or Azinger would say on national TV.

At any rate, I'd give Buck-Nance a "F", but Azinger an "A."

Gary Woodland deserves an "A+"!  Quite a performance by him yesterday!!
Agree with your grades plus I'd give Brad Faxon a D.  He just never had anything interesting to say.

I've been a Zinger fan ever since he went to the next hole and teed off because he was tired of waiting for Ben Crane to line up a putt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 17, 2019, 07:24:13 pm
Paul Azinger: "A bad attitude is like a flat tire.  If you don't change it, you aren't going anywhere".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on June 17, 2019, 07:45:12 pm
Fox’s coverage of the US Open is better than any other networks coverage of a major and the Ryder Cup.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2019, 12:10:33 am
Azinger is a bright guy and a modestly interesting color commentator. But he strikes me as the kind of person you’d want to strangle in about 5 minutes of you had to actually spend time with him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 20, 2019, 10:14:04 pm
So the Bulls latest genius move is drafting a guard whose strength is speed and transition game, and spot-up 3s to play for a coach who hates playing with pace and whose offense is built around dumping it into the paint and midrange jumpers as the shot clock runs out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 22, 2019, 12:43:27 am
Sorry, but NBA Commissioner Silver is really corpse-like.  What is he,  6'5" 115 pounds?  He reminds me of a guy up in Minnesota who used to do funeral home commercials, tall, skinny, no smile, monotone.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on June 22, 2019, 08:59:06 am
Sorry, but NBA Commissioner Silver is really corpse-like.  What is he,  6'5" 115 pounds?  He reminds me of a guy up in Minnesota who used to do funeral home commercials, tall, skinny, no smile, monotone.

Are you sure it wasn't Ohio?

https://youtu.be/BXRxYLfq78g
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 22, 2019, 09:03:28 am
Ha, I remember that bit.  But, no, it was some independent station in Minnesota.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on June 24, 2019, 09:40:31 pm
Suck it Vandy!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on June 27, 2019, 12:20:44 am
Oh hey, blue.  You guys haven’t been here in a million years... it’s a best of three.  Suck it!!!  Anchor down!!  Sorry for your pasty white ass!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 27, 2019, 10:00:44 am
lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on June 28, 2019, 09:53:15 am
Oh hey, blue.  You guys haven’t been here in a million years... it’s a best of three.  Suck it!!!  Anchor down!!  Sorry for your pasty white ass!!

Congrats!

I know it’s a three game set.

I’m not white
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 01, 2019, 07:47:23 am
It's not too often the Bulls do something right, but while it will obviously be overshadowed by all the star movement, getting Tomas Satoransky is a sneaky good move.  This guy can really play - big, athletic true PG who defends, protects the ball and shoots the three.  A really good player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 01, 2019, 09:32:07 am
Going hard for the 8th spot in the East.

A question for hockey.  When the are talking about a right handed shot winger or a right defensemen does that mean that the player is really left handed?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 03, 2019, 04:46:47 pm
Stop the presses - a Five-thirty-eight article praising the Bulls' offseason:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/nba-free-agent-diary-dont-look-now-but-the-bulls-are-making-some-smart-signings/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 05, 2019, 11:23:52 pm
Looks like the Bulls might have stolen one with Gafford.  Almost 7' and a freak athlete.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 06, 2019, 12:03:21 am
Gafford look terrific.  White had a decent game despite not shooting well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on July 10, 2019, 04:32:45 pm
Hey Bennett, I've read "Commander in Cheat" and it is, indeed, both hilarious and sad!


To those who might wonder just what is in this book

Donald J. Trump returned to one of the golf clubs he owns after playing 18 holes at a different course.  When he saw they were getting ready to engrave the name of the golfer who had just won the club championship, he asked what the guy had shot and then said “I would have done better than that, put my name on there”.  

Trump claims to have won 18 club championships

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on July 10, 2019, 05:14:27 pm
Totally normal
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on July 10, 2019, 05:52:02 pm
Totally normal
In other words, "par for the course".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 10, 2019, 06:05:57 pm
Trump and Bill Clinton have a lot in common I guess.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 10, 2019, 06:19:48 pm
I bet he did win them and then had a one night with the finest girl at the bar afterwards.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on July 10, 2019, 06:33:40 pm
Yeah that’s probably what happened.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on July 27, 2019, 05:04:33 pm
This week’s tour stop in Memphis has been so great. The weather Thursday and Friday was perfect, and while it was hot today, and will be tomorrow, the golf has been outstanding.

McIlroy and Koepka in the final pairing tomorrow, for the first time ever, will be epic. I expect them both to put on a show.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 27, 2019, 09:01:27 pm
Both will have to wear a bulletproof vest during their final round.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on August 03, 2019, 12:51:17 am
Pro wrestling legend Harley Race dies at 76

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Today We Lost Not Only A Great Personal Friend, But In My Estimation The One And Only REAL World Champion. Without Harley Race, There Was No Ric Flair. I Tried My Hardest Every Day To Live Up To His Standard In The Ring.
— Ric Flair® (@RicFlairNatrBoy) August 1, 2019

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA6hkhyX4BAvJFb.jpg:small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA6hkh9W4AEHdIj.jpg:small)

That wrestling show in St. Louis must have been a classic.



https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/01/us/harley-race-wrestler-obit-trnd/index.html

Another great article
http://www.startribune.com/handsome-harley-could-not-afford-to-be-well-liked-by-wrestling-fans/514576872/
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Post by: guest61 on August 03, 2019, 02:28:28 am
Kevin Nash said when he first got started Race would be getting dressed while smoking a cigarette in the locker room. A real man's man. Your favorite wrestlers favorite wrestler.

My first memories of him was when he was King Harley Race in WWF near the end of his career.

I never saw his NWA work until I got older.

8 time world champion. Tougher than a 2 dollar steak and one of the greatest to ever do it.

Rest in peace.
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Post by: Bennett on August 09, 2019, 08:37:19 am
Rosie Ruiz, notorious Boston Marathon cheater, dead at 66

(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/rosie-ruiz.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1)

https://nypost.com/2019/08/08/rosie-ruiz-famed-boston-marathon-cheater-dead-at-66/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 31, 2019, 05:50:40 pm
Cant beat college football.

I sure am glad Im too old to let ballgames get to me.

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Post by: goblue007 on August 31, 2019, 09:40:09 pm
Lmao Jeremy Pruitt. Feels like 98
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Post by: Deeg on September 07, 2019, 07:35:58 am
Best FA signing almost nobody talks about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot0QgQtHI8E
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Post by: goblue007 on September 07, 2019, 09:40:01 pm
Lmao vols got soaked
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 08, 2019, 01:11:07 am
I dont have much to say Brother.

They suck.

No gloating from me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on September 08, 2019, 09:26:33 pm
TB12 ;D
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 08, 2019, 10:51:26 pm
BYU! At least I have something to be happy about this weekend.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on September 08, 2019, 11:18:17 pm
BYU! At least I have something to be happy about this weekend.

Kalani Sitake is the truth
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Post by: JR on October 07, 2019, 04:11:57 pm
The Titans just signed Cody Parkey after Cairo Santos missed four FG's during yesterday's disaster.  Wonderful time to be a Titans fan right now.  #titanup
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on October 07, 2019, 11:28:36 pm
Imagine being the team that traded up to take Trubisky instead of Maholmes or Watson....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 08, 2019, 12:31:27 am
Imagine my 9ers being 4-0.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 08, 2019, 01:15:58 am
Imagine being the team that traded up to take Trubisky instead of Maholmes or Watson....

Yeah no joke....that's just turned out to be an all-time draft mistake.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 08, 2019, 08:33:18 am
Imagine being the guy who had Santos starting because Prater was on bye...
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Post by: JR on October 08, 2019, 05:05:15 pm

Imagine being the guy who had Santos starting because Prater was on bye...


I wonder who around here might do something regrettable like that...  :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: otto105 on October 10, 2019, 02:24:30 pm
If the 9ers can be competitive with the first good team in the Rams this Sunday, I'll believe that 4-0 start.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 10, 2019, 02:28:17 pm
The 49ers are for real, but they have a lot if injuries.  Two starters off the O line plus their all pro fullback.  They will be hard pressed to challenge the Rams on Sunday, but if they do it will be impressive.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on October 20, 2019, 10:03:36 am
A young man who is impossible not to root for

https://youtu.be/T8REQsLBrEg

https://youtu.be/KFN0mLU6EZE

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Post by: DelMarFan on October 21, 2019, 07:11:22 pm
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A young man who is impossible not to root for

Thanks for posting.  I was watching that game but hadn't heard the whole backstory.  Don't think I've ever been prouder to be a Minnesota alum.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 23, 2019, 09:25:14 pm
This just in: the Chicago Bulls still can't play defense.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 26, 2019, 02:41:13 pm
The Blackhawks are unwatchable.  Colliton may be gone by December if things don't turn around.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 26, 2019, 02:42:52 pm
Coby White has been impressive in the early going.  He seems to have all the tools.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 28, 2019, 08:09:06 pm
The Bulls have the worst defensive scheme I have ever seen.  They have given the Knicks nothing but layups, dunks, and open 3's in the second half.  Can the players be that bad?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 28, 2019, 08:26:31 pm
Well, the coach is awful and the players have no discipline. Whether that's entirely Boyen's fault is unknown.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 28, 2019, 08:27:56 pm
Though the reason they're going to lose this game is due to getting destroyed on the boards.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 28, 2019, 10:58:34 pm
The Bulls seem to have assembled a decent core of young talent, but it's hard to imagine them having any success with a meatball like Boylen coaching them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 01, 2019, 02:35:18 am
Ill be damned.

Are my 9ers gonna go undefeated?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 01, 2019, 08:56:14 pm
Derrick Rose has very quietly been an excellent player this year in Detroit and much of last year in Minnesota. Having a strong game against the defenseless Bulls tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 01, 2019, 09:48:47 pm
Excellent on offense.  Atrocious on defense.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 01, 2019, 10:13:39 pm
You've just described 90% of the NBA.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 01, 2019, 10:33:00 pm
Its unwatchable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 01, 2019, 11:08:05 pm
Excellent on offense.  Atrocious on defense.

Worse than Levine?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 01, 2019, 11:34:01 pm
Is it either/or?

If you believe advanced defensive metrics, yes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 05, 2019, 09:05:09 pm
Not only is it inexplicable that Jim Boylen is an NBA head coach, it is inexplicable that he worked for San Antonio.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on November 05, 2019, 09:12:32 pm
He's the NBA's version of Matt Nagy, only slightly better.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 06, 2019, 01:53:56 am
No - no, he’s absolutely not better.
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Post by: JR on November 08, 2019, 08:17:03 pm
Dave, what’s the deal with James Wiseman?  Penny helped cover the moving expenses 11 years ago and they’re getting hit for that?

Sounds like NCAA BS to me. 
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Post by: CUBluejays on November 08, 2019, 09:04:17 pm
Dave, what’s the deal with James Wiseman?  Penny helped cover the moving expenses 11 years ago and they’re getting hit for that?

Sounds like NCAA BS to me. 

Wiseman played for Penny’s AAU team and then Penny paid for his move in 2018 to play For the high school team that Penny was coaching. Since Penny played for Memphis in college he is a booster. It seems kinda cut and dry by NCAA standards.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 08, 2019, 10:14:37 pm
All stuff that the NCAA was aware of when they cleared Wiseman back in May...

Typical NCAA BS...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 08, 2019, 10:26:07 pm
Also, Penny is considered a booster because of a $1M gift to the university back in ‘08.

Here’s the latest from Wiseman’s co-counsel...


https://247sports.com/college/memphis/Article/A-full-breakdown-of-the-timeline-leading-up-to-the-NCAAs-decision-to-rule-James-Wiseman-at-the-University-of-Memphis-and-next-steps-according-to-his-legal-counsel-138231398/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 08, 2019, 10:40:11 pm
More, from Michael McCann at SI...


https://www.si.com/college/2019/11/09/james-wiseman-ncaa-eligibility-case-memphis
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 08, 2019, 11:09:53 pm
Wiseman isnt eligible and shouldnt be period.

I bet Penny's got his fists balled up now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 08, 2019, 11:24:35 pm
The dumb thing is that the NBA forces him with into playing 1 year of college.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 08, 2019, 11:37:09 pm
Penny paid this cat 11,000 dollars and people think Memphis is getting screwed?

GTFOH
Title: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 09, 2019, 08:18:53 am
OK, genius...tell me what makes Alex Lomax different...

How is he eligible?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 09, 2019, 01:26:52 pm
I truly dont know a thing about Lomax.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 09, 2019, 04:22:46 pm
www.google.com
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 09, 2019, 06:11:47 pm
I googled Lomax.

He should be ineligible too.

Penny's a hustler and will have Memphis on probation in short order.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2019, 11:49:46 am
LOL, you should stick to Cubs and 49ers...stuff you actually know a little bit about...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 10, 2019, 02:00:24 pm
Rick Barnes is reeling in one 5 star after another and he aint buying houses for kids to get them.

I get it though Brother.

You're a Memphis fan.

You're supposed to stick up for them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2019, 03:29:55 pm
LOL
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: dev on November 15, 2019, 08:09:42 am
Just shows how stupid football players are.   You would think that in such a violent sport, prone to injuries, that each player would be on the lookout for each other to not cause harm...It happens, but when Lawrence Taylor broke Theisman's leg, he immediately sounded the alarm.  But, this guy on the Browns just snapped in the heat of the moment, but he should have had awareness.  And then the Steelers guys go and punch him in the helmet...yeah thats gunna work.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 15, 2019, 03:47:09 pm
Just shows how stupid football players are.   You would think that in such a violent sport, prone to injuries, that each player would be on the lookout for each other to not cause harm...It happens, but when Lawrence Taylor broke Theisman's leg, he immediately sounded the alarm.  But, this guy on the Browns just snapped in the heat of the moment, but he should have had awareness.  And then the Steelers guys go and punch him in the helmet...yeah thats gunna work.
BEREA, Ohio -- Myles Garrett will not play again this season, and maybe longer.

The NFL announced Friday that the Cleveland Browns defensive end has been suspended for the rest of this season, including the playoffs should the Browns make it, and will have to meet with the commissioner's office before being reinstated in 2020.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28087446/browns-myles-garrett-suspended-indefinitely-steelers-maurkice-pouncey-gets-3-game-ban
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 23, 2019, 08:41:40 pm
The Bulls are terrible and should never be watched, but that was one of the most unbelievable finishes I've seen in a long time.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 23, 2019, 08:57:33 pm
Markkanen has regressed something fierce.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 23, 2019, 09:01:39 pm
The Bulls are terrible and should never be watched, but that was one of the most unbelievable finishes I've seen in a long time.

Not sure if the finish was more unbelievable or the fact that Lavine got away with about 8 steps on the GW shot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 23, 2019, 09:23:18 pm
Can't even let them have that one nice moment, huh?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 23, 2019, 10:12:14 pm
Wasn't aware I took away their win. That's some power I possess.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 24, 2019, 12:45:30 am
The power of eternal misery.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 24, 2019, 02:31:49 am
A blatant missed call to decide the game is irrelevant because it favored the Bulls?

I admit I was wrong though. Lavine took 4 steps, not 8.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 24, 2019, 08:34:36 am
That wasn't traveling in the modern NBA, Chris.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 24, 2019, 06:04:09 pm
Not even close
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 24, 2019, 06:12:32 pm
My favorite "traveling" story involves Shaq.  He had the ball with his back to the basket at the free throw line and kept swinging his elbows back and forth to get rid of the defender behind him.  As the defender kept backing up, Shaq kept backing up.  Eventually, he turned around and dunked without the ball ever touching the floor.

I haven't watched the NBA since.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on November 24, 2019, 06:29:08 pm
My favorite "traveling" story involves Shaq.  He had the ball with his back to the basket at the free throw line and kept swinging his elbows back and forth to get rid of the defender behind him.  As the defender kept backing up, Shaq kept backing up.  Eventually, he turned around and dunked without the ball ever touching the floor.

I haven't watched the NBA since.

This sounds like a story in which every detail is BS.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 24, 2019, 06:57:56 pm
A dribble followed by two steps and then a full jump-stop, which is two more steps, before shooting isn't a travel. Is LeBron re-writing NBA rules now?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2019, 07:24:30 pm
So are you a Bulls fan Chris?

If so why do you give a ****?

Dont enough calls go against them that you wouldnt **** if the refs gave them one every now and then?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2019, 10:51:56 pm
Damn them 10-1 9ers just woodshedded the Packers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 24, 2019, 11:13:33 pm
I read several articles about the finish of the Bulls game and there wasn't a single mention of a possible travel on Lavine.  Those writers just don't have Chris' sharp eye and appreciation of the rules, I guess.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 24, 2019, 11:14:20 pm
Gotta love George Kittle.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 25, 2019, 11:45:56 am
He won me a couple of games last night that I had written off as lost...so that's nice...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 25, 2019, 03:36:03 pm
I read several articles about the finish of the Bulls game and there wasn't a single mention of a possible travel on Lavine.  Those writers just don't have Chris' sharp eye and appreciation of the rules, I guess.

Guess you have to be told what to think and believe by writers. Sad.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 25, 2019, 09:04:13 pm
Back to reality as the 5-12 Blazers are garroting the Bulls in their own building, who are obliging providing Carmelo the fountain of youth.  So much for turning point games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 25, 2019, 09:23:46 pm
I'm hoping they dump Boylan soon.  The youngsters need a coach that knows what he's doing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 25, 2019, 10:25:10 pm
I'm hoping they dump Boylan soon.  The youngsters need a coach that knows what he's doing.

Yes, this is an especially critical time and such a horrible coach is a serious problem.  But against so many others, would changing even help?

This organization is royally fuched.  No decent GM would ever work for an owner like Reinsdorf (not that he'll ever fire GarPax anyway).  No NBA-caliber head coach would work under GarPax.  And no top-shelf FA would considering signing for the sort of coach who would (like Boylan).  Until Reinsdorf sells the team, they're going to remain mired in awfulness.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on November 25, 2019, 10:27:30 pm
Lamar is too good
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2019, 10:45:31 pm
Ole P1ss...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 06, 2019, 09:31:12 pm
Ole Miss is about to make a damn good hire.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on December 06, 2019, 09:53:39 pm
Rebs travel to Knoxville in 2021...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 06, 2019, 11:07:53 pm
Lmao

Y'all wont want none.

Pruitt is pretty decent.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on December 07, 2019, 10:07:52 am
LOL
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 08, 2019, 03:57:41 pm
WHO DAT???
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 08, 2019, 04:45:29 pm
The guy that hung onto Kittle's face mask should be suspended.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 08, 2019, 04:49:47 pm
He's was gonna score a TD if he didnt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on December 08, 2019, 06:06:46 pm
The guy that hung onto Kittle's face mask should be suspended.
He will certainly receive a hefty fine.  An intentional pass interference penalty by grabbing a guy's arm is one thing.  This went over the line when he didn't let go.

https://youtu.be/c16kYs5jsbs
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 08, 2019, 07:50:44 pm
What did I say that was dumb Bennett?

Im a 49er fan.

Kittle was gonna score if he didnt grab his facemask.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 08, 2019, 08:01:03 pm
What if he'd broken Kittle's neck?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 08, 2019, 08:04:42 pm
"Ref, yeah I shot and killed him, but, damn, he was going to score, man."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 08, 2019, 08:25:44 pm
The Bulls made Tyler Herro look like Stephen Curry tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 08, 2019, 08:40:59 pm
You all arent getting my point.

Im on Kittle's side.

I think the defender did it without regard knowing he wasnt gonna bring him down any other way.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 13, 2019, 12:39:42 pm
I dont have much to say about the UT/Memphis game tomorrow Dave.

We might be in the top 25 but this isnt a strong basketball team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on December 15, 2019, 06:06:55 am
God bless you, Kamaru Usman!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on December 28, 2019, 05:24:27 pm
The Heisman Trophy voters got it right when they gave it to Joe Burrow.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 28, 2019, 05:57:09 pm
This has to be tough:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28383231/reporter-carley-mccord-lsu-oc-steve-ensminger-daughter-law-dies-plane-crash
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 28, 2019, 07:15:05 pm
I'd like to see someone else question the SEC.

Everyone else is JV football.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on December 28, 2019, 07:17:42 pm
I'd like to see someone else question the SEC.

Everyone else is JV football.

The defending champs say "Hi".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 28, 2019, 07:27:17 pm
Oh somebody will come along from time to time that can run with the big boys but clearly not this year.

2 loss Alabama would have humbled Oklahoma too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 29, 2019, 10:29:59 pm
How bout them 9ers?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 31, 2019, 03:33:29 pm
Anybody ever been to the Kentucky Derby?

Do I have to dress up if I buy infield tickets?

There's a big difference between the 1200 dollar seats and the 75 dollar infield tickets.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 31, 2019, 04:03:59 pm
You have to wear a big floppy hat with flowers and ribbons and a sun dress, brightly colored.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 31, 2019, 04:09:37 pm
My wife intends to do that.

They might get a polo and khaki pants out of me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 31, 2019, 05:06:42 pm
Wear a t-shirt with "Kentucky Sucks" on it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on December 31, 2019, 06:12:37 pm
A standard mint julep at the Derby will set you back only $15.00 but it comes with a souvenir glass.

There is also a $2,500 deluxe version in a fancy cup etched with the twin spires motif of Churchill Downs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 31, 2019, 07:05:54 pm
I dont drink but my wife Im sure will have a few.

You only live once and since Ive been to Wrigley this is the next thing on the list.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 04, 2020, 10:22:43 pm
TITANS!!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 04, 2020, 10:47:06 pm
Im from Tennessee and was pulling for the Patriots.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 04, 2020, 11:10:14 pm
I feel bad for the Patriots.  I blame the refs who insisted on an inflated ball and the NFL office that wouldn't allow them to film the Titan practice.  Bastards.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 04, 2020, 11:31:41 pm
I feel bad for the Patriots.  I blame the refs who insisted on an inflated ball and the NFL office that wouldn't allow them to film the Titan practice.  Bastards.
The refs made up for their indiscretion by not calling a single penalty on the Patriots in the first half.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 11, 2020, 09:56:07 pm
How bout them 9ers?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 11, 2020, 11:47:57 pm
How bout them TITANS!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 11, 2020, 11:48:09 pm
#titanup
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 14, 2020, 02:58:49 am
SEC...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on January 14, 2020, 09:22:44 pm
Grizz!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 19, 2020, 08:43:31 pm
Them 9ers...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 19, 2020, 08:53:49 pm
Exciting football, if you're a fine of paint drying as a spectator sport.

Come on, Chiefs...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 19, 2020, 09:44:01 pm
Congrats to the 9ers and the Chiefs.  Kind of sad the Titans' miracle run had to end there, but that was way more than I ever expected when the postseason and especially the season began. 

Ought to be a great Super Bowl.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 21, 2020, 11:32:21 am
Jack Nicklaus is 80 today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 21, 2020, 03:37:14 pm
The best ever.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 21, 2020, 03:47:22 pm
Quote
And who still goes to the office every day, turning left out of his Lost Tree Village neighborhood and onto ... Jack Nicklaus Boulevard.

"I've still got a lot of things I want to do,'' he said. "I certainly don't have any reason to want to curl up in a corner someplace with a green banana and hope it gets ripe.''
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 22, 2020, 02:47:20 pm
https://youtu.be/n3aIhuLjjMg
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 22, 2020, 02:50:39 pm
I saw that.

My boy loves fake rasslin so Ive thought he might like that crap but I'd struggle to watch some kid stretch my boy and then piledrive him on his head.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 23, 2020, 04:56:09 pm
I hope UConn beats the Lady Vols by 80 and then Geno Auriemma goes and pisses on Pat's statue.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 24, 2020, 09:11:32 am
I hope UConn beats the Lady Vols by 80 and then Geno Auriemma goes and pisses on Pat's statue.

There's another way to look at it:

UConn presented a $10,000 check to the Pat Summitt Foundation at halftime. UConn will also auction off its black uniforms from Thursday night, with the proceeds also going to the Foundation.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 24, 2020, 05:11:17 pm
Jacey,

I'm guessing Dusty has never had the sad experience of someone he cares for coming down with Alzheimer's.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 24, 2020, 05:38:54 pm
Her having alzheimers has nothing to do with why I didn't like her.

So does some POS become less of a POS because they got sick?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 24, 2020, 05:46:46 pm
I honestly dont have much reason to hate them anymore now that Pat,her lover,and Joan Cronan are gone.

I kinda like their new coach Kellie Harper and suspect she'll be here for 25 years.

The hate is fading slowly.

Its no different than folks here hating the Packers or Cardinals.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 26, 2020, 02:07:24 pm
Kobe Bryant and four others killed in helicopter crash in California.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 26, 2020, 02:53:47 pm
Any news on the other 4 or 5.  Hope it wasn't his wife and kids.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 26, 2020, 02:55:50 pm
Only a special few people touch the whole world like Kobe Bryant did.

Legend.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 26, 2020, 03:03:47 pm
His 13 year old daughter evidently died as well.  Awful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 26, 2020, 03:14:00 pm
It is true.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 26, 2020, 03:17:10 pm
Rip...

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 26, 2020, 03:19:40 pm
https://youtu.be/pOHQWCqNV9E
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 26, 2020, 03:44:18 pm
Very sad news indeed. What a tragedy, that his 13 year old daughter and another girl lost their lives as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 26, 2020, 04:43:34 pm
Horrible for the families involved. The other father was a former Houston University baseball player and was coaching at Orange Coast College.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 30, 2020, 01:46:18 pm
Jeff Agrest  @jeffreya22  1h
Defending Joe Buck is easy; changing detractors’ minds is hard
@NFLonFOX
 #SuperBowlLIV

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/1/30/21115380/joe-buck-jack-buck-troy-aikman-fox-sports-super-bowl-liv-49ers-chiefs-nfl

A few of my thoughts:

Keep Joe Buck off golf telecasts.  Or better yet, take the telecasts off Fox.

Have him tell Troy Aikman to use standard English.  The referees, they called.  Tom Brady, he threw.  Adrian Peterson, he ran.  The clock, it shows.  Many more, there are.


Absolutely prevent him from growing another one of those scraggly looking beards.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 01, 2020, 01:41:11 am
Los Angeles Lakers (@Lakers) Tweeted:
https://t.co/F2Ahu0wHry https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1223454877814149121?s=20
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 01, 2020, 10:56:58 am
That couldn’t have been done better.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 01, 2020, 11:40:50 am
That ripped my soul Brother.

Thats why I love sports.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 02, 2020, 09:44:36 pm
I'd rather go and lose than not go at all.

Whatever.

I wont lose any sleep over it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 06, 2020, 09:03:03 pm
So the Bulls aren’t sure if they have a good team or not?  I really wish I could somehow end up on The Bull’s payroll and just mail it in for 2 decades.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 24, 2020, 12:45:23 am
I know we don't have a lot of hockey fans here, but this is an unbelievable story:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/feb/23/david-ayres-zamboni-driver-goalie-nhl-maple-leafs-hurricanes

Also, kudos to the Leafs fans who stuck around en masse to see him named the #1 star and gave him a huge standing-O.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 24, 2020, 12:47:46 am
I saw that last night and thought it couldnt be real.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on February 24, 2020, 07:56:22 am
In other news, Madison Bumgarner is a rodeo cowboy.

https://theathletic.com/1629527/2020/02/23/meet-mason-saunders-the-secret-rodeo-identity-of-madison-bumgarner/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on February 24, 2020, 08:43:15 am
"Diamondbacks general manager Mike Hazen told The Athletic he was 'not going to get into discussing specific contract language' when asked about Bumgarner's hobby."

If there is no prohibition now, there will be in the next contract.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 25, 2020, 11:56:59 pm
Coby White is the first rook ever (and only the third player) to score 30+ in 3 straight games off the bench.  The franchise is a joke but they may have stumbled on a good one there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on March 11, 2020, 09:59:35 pm
Fred Hoiberg is an idiot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 12, 2020, 12:25:17 am
Fred Hoiberg is fine.

Just a cold.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on March 12, 2020, 05:53:51 am
He had influenza A, which he still had no business being out in public with.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 12, 2020, 08:02:06 am
He had influenza A, which he still had no business being out in public with.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 12, 2020, 10:32:21 am
He had influenza A, which he still had no business being out in public with.

I'd take a wild guess Hoiberg coaching while looking sick as a dog on the sidelines is probably the big reason for the SEC not allowing fans for the rest of the SEC basketball tournament.

Then again, the moron Kentucky fans won't be raiding Nashville this weekend, so actually I probably should be thanking Hoiberg for that. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on March 12, 2020, 10:39:31 am
Nebraska was playing with two football players to replace two suspended players.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 12, 2020, 12:32:42 pm
He had influenza A, which he still had no business being out in public with.

By the way I noticed Nebraska released a statement saying Hoiberg was checked out by medical personnel prior to the game.  Would medical personnel really give the all-clear for someone in his condition to coach with the coronavirus pandemic concerns out there?

What happened with him last night hasn't gotten a lot of major media attention, but I really wonder how much him being out there and coaching while obviously very sick with what a lot of people would think were coronavirus symptoms played a role in all of these college conferences all of a sudden canceling their basketball tournaments today and MLB likely canceling the rest of spring training?

In some small way, he might have been doing public health a favor by being a complete moron last night.

 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on March 12, 2020, 12:47:57 pm
One thing I've learned is I probably under swab people for the flu.  I've had more than a few cases on Influenza in people that just didn't look that sick in the last 2 weeks.  I'm not sure if the doctor he saw was even aware of the multiple COVID-19 cases in Omaha/Council Bluffs, 1 county over from Lincoln. 

It is hard right now because the flu in still going strong, allergy/asthma season is kicking off, viruses, bacteria and no test to really say if you have it or you don't. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on March 12, 2020, 01:07:45 pm
NHL season suspended.

13 college basketball tournaments canceled.  NCAA tourney still on without fans.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on March 12, 2020, 01:11:10 pm
Duke and Kansas just said they aren't playing in the tourney.  It will get suspended/cancelled as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 12, 2020, 01:20:40 pm
Duke and Kansas just said they aren't playing in the tourney.  It will get suspended/cancelled as well.

I'm sure the NCAA will at least wait until Belmont and Northern Kentucky announce what they're going to do.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on March 12, 2020, 01:38:50 pm
Beginning Friday no fans at PGA tour events.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 12, 2020, 02:06:08 pm
With a heavy heart I must announce that nobody will attend the NCAA women’s basketball tournament for the 40th consecutive year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dihard on March 12, 2020, 02:35:06 pm
With a heavy heart I must announce that nobody will attend the NCAA women’s basketball tournament for the 40th consecutive year.
On behalf of the over 20,000 people at each of the women’s Final Four games last year, please take your sexist, misogynistic crap elsewhere, Dusty.


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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dihard on March 12, 2020, 02:36:31 pm
And p.s. no, having a wife and daughter doesn’t mean you’re aren’t sexist or misogynistic.


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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 12, 2020, 02:46:02 pm
I copied and pasted that from Twitter for your information.

It wasnt my words.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on March 12, 2020, 02:48:23 pm
It's called flattening the curve

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ES3bWPxVAAEVD6_?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 12, 2020, 02:50:14 pm
And for your information as hard as this may be to believe Im currently coaching the #2 girls player in America in the 2024 class.

She's a 7th grader who already has several D1 offers so I must not be sexist towards girls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on March 12, 2020, 02:54:29 pm
And for your information as hard as this may be to believe Im currently coaching the #2 girls player in America in the 2024 class.

She's a 7th grader who already has several D1 offers so I must not be sexist towards girls.

And, you probably are very quick to point out your black friends, too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 12, 2020, 03:00:43 pm
I dont have many to be honest with you because there arent many around these parts but my assistant coach is black and his sons play for me and they're a fine family.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 12, 2020, 03:25:30 pm
Both NCAA basketball tournaments are now canceled. 

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28893285/ncaa-tournaments-canceled-coronavirus
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 12, 2020, 03:29:57 pm
Well at least that means Rick Barnes didnt miss the NCAA tournament this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on March 12, 2020, 03:49:13 pm


With a heavy heart I must announce that nobody will attend the NCAA women’s basketball tournament for the 40th consecutive year.


I copied and pasted that from Twitter for your information.

It wasnt my words.

You posted it.  You own it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on March 12, 2020, 04:09:45 pm
CWS as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on March 27, 2020, 01:05:04 am
Curly Neal  1942-2020  Harlem Globetrotters 1963-1985

Fergie Jenkins also played basketball in the off-season for the Harlem Globetrotters from 1967 to 1969.

The Globetrotters baseball gag was always one of my favorites.

https://youtu.be/Dmsg9d7kuH4
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on March 27, 2020, 01:11:48 am
https://youtu.be/EIHmcQSNaFk
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 08, 2020, 11:10:38 am
Deeg, what do you think of Karnisovas?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 09, 2020, 03:24:56 am
I'm shocked that the Bulls did something seemingly smart, and even more that they did it so quickly.

By all accounts, Karnisovas is a well-respected and accomplished exec who's a good fit for a rebuild.  I'm looking for the catch to be honest - this organization has screwed up pretty much everything for so long that it's hard to imagine they'd actually get something this important right.  When he actually fires Boylan I'll start to believe it's not all a mirage.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 09, 2020, 06:53:58 am
Kaplan said they are going to fire him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 12, 2020, 04:59:14 pm
My all-time favorite sporting event is the Masters Golf tournament.  The fourth round leaders would normally be at Amen Corner about now.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ3Z3CVVGvcvNhUb_6DqDu-442OLMpU1_uZrS0LnJQ9NLK0EZs8&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 12, 2020, 05:45:52 pm
I watched a good part of the 2019 final round today on CBS.  Pretty cool to relive Tiger winning it even if it was taped.  Of course Jim Nantz still annoys the hell out of me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 15, 2020, 04:18:07 pm
Corona has hit WWE.

They've fired 25+ wrestlers today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 15, 2020, 05:30:21 pm
Rusev will be a stud in AEW whenever they get around to giving him a chance.  WWE messed up with him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 15, 2020, 06:00:19 pm
Anderson and Gallows are very good too.

Maria aint no joke either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 15, 2020, 06:39:26 pm
But Vince was chosen to be on Trump's economy reopen committee, so we're all going to be saved.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 07, 2020, 01:01:17 pm
I just got an email from Nashville SC saying some MLS clubs will be able to resume training May 13 with plans to resume the season by the first week of July. 

Slowly but surely it's looking like we're getting sports back.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on May 16, 2020, 06:29:20 pm
Live golf Sunday!

When: Sunday, May 17 from 2:00 – 6:00 p.m. ET
TV Channel: NBC, GOLF Channel, NBCSN
Stream Live: on PGA TOUR LIVE , GOLFPASS and GOLF Channel
Golfers: Rory McIlroy and Dustin Johnson vs. Rickie Fowler and Matt Wolff
Announcers: Mike Tirico, Rich Lerner, Paul Azinger, Gary Koch, Steve Sands, Jerry Foltz

https://sports.nbcsports.com/2020/05/16/how-to-watch-taylormade-driving-relief-skins-match/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 09, 2020, 12:42:09 am
JR

I know you are one of the board's golf fans so this story about what CBS coverage will be like when the PGA tour resumes might interest you, especially the part about Jim Nantz being alone in the 18th tower.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/micd-players-remote-announcers-and-confession-cam-highlight-cbs-sports-plans-for-broadcasting-pga-tour-events-again
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 09, 2020, 08:42:12 am
Thanks Bennett, interesting article there.  I actually didn't realize golf was "most complicated and most expensive enterprise" in sports broadcasting.  Hard to believe a telecast of the John Deere Classic is more complicated and expensive than the Super Bowl, but I can see why it is.

And I can definitely do without the Jim Nantz "putting everything into proper perspective" monologue at the start, so I'll at least know to skip the first 10-20 minutes, haha.  My word that guy is the most annoying broadcaster in sports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 09, 2020, 08:48:15 am
Thanks Bennett, interesting article there.  I actually didn't realize golf was "most complicated and most expensive enterprise" in sports broadcasting.  Hard to believe a telecast of the John Deere Classic is more complicated and expensive than the Super Bowl, but I can see why it is.

And I can definitely do without the Jim Nantz "putting everything into proper perspective" monologue at the start, so I'll at least know to skip the first 10-20 minutes, haha.  My word that guy is the most annoying broadcaster in sports.

With the NFL, NCAA basketball, and the PGA tour Nantz is just on TV way too much for me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 19, 2020, 12:30:39 pm
Bob McKenzie  @TSNBobMcKenzie   22m
It’s my understanding one NHL club has had to temporarily close its training facilities during Phase Two because multiple players and some staff have tested positive for Covid-19.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 21, 2020, 11:24:49 pm
I dont condone this...

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1274913263575347200?s=09
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on June 22, 2020, 08:03:49 am
I dont condone this...

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1274913263575347200?s=09

Congratulations, you have cleared the lowest bar in history (better than Robb, at least).  But, the fact you even feel the need to say this should be troubling to you.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 23, 2020, 10:22:34 am
Novak Djokovic tested positive for the coronavirus but apparently is asymptomatic.

https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/29351887/novak-djokovic-tested-positive-coronavirus
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on June 23, 2020, 11:44:48 am
They do call him "The Joker"
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 23, 2020, 05:34:34 pm
Djokovic is an anti-vaxxer, and had said he would refuse to play if the ATP required players to get COVID-19 vaccinations.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 23, 2020, 05:53:21 pm
Just had a brief stop at the store.  Amazing to me is the idiots not wearing masks are the same aholes who stand fewer than 6 feet away with snotty smirks on their faces.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 23, 2020, 07:09:57 pm
So it wasnt a noose..
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2020, 08:54:03 pm
Nope, a pull rope that had been around for some time. On one hand, a very good thing that nobody did that, and it didn't make much sense considering the lack of access to the garage for spectators. OTOH, at least we had another blowup where we could all act as if we're living in the 1800's.


https://twitter.com/jeff_gluck/status/1275542160868175872
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2020, 09:01:32 pm
Though I must say it doesn't come close to the nitwit Mayor in Oakland--a lawyer--pretending that exercise equipment for black folks in a park constitutes a noose and needs a hate crime investigation.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 24, 2020, 01:55:24 pm
Brooks Koepka pulls out of the Travelers Championship after his caddie tested positive for the coronavirus, who sounds like he was asymptomatic.  The PGA Tour has already had Nick Watney (symptomatic) and Cameron Champ (asymptomatic) test positive this week.

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/29359007/brooks-koepka-withdraws-travelers-championship-caddie-tests-positive-coronavirus

So far it sounds like the PGA Tour testing regime is working well.  One byproduct of the sports leagues starting back is we might get some interesting data on how the virus spreads and how many positive cases are symptomatic vs. asymptomatic since the players are getting tested so frequently.  It might also be interesting to see how MLB and other team sports compare the the PGA once those leagues start coming back.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 24, 2020, 03:05:29 pm
So now Wallace, not the least bit happy he wasn't the target of racial hate afterall, is pretending the pull rope was an actual noose and we need to be upset? shamed? anyway. A pull rope. Used to pull down garage doors. That had been hanging in the stall of white drivers before Wallace got assigned to said stall this year.

What serious people we are.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 24, 2020, 03:18:21 pm
To his credit, Wallace put out a much better statement late this afternoon. I have a feeling he got caught up in all the emotion of the past week. I hope that was the case anyway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 24, 2020, 03:23:57 pm
So now Wallace, not the least bit happy he wasn't the target of racial hate afterall, is pretending the pull rope was an actual noose and we need to be upset? shamed? anyway. A pull rope. Used to pull down garage doors. That had been hanging in the stall of white drivers before Wallace got assigned to said stall this year.

What serious people we are.
. I took his early comments as angry that people were questioning his integrity.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 24, 2020, 03:44:25 pm
. I took his early comments as angry that people were questioning his integrity.

I'm sure that was part of it. I also think he was likely embarrassed by all the attention and his comments when it turned out to be...a pull rope, which quite frankly people had to have known considering they are in many of Nascar's old garages. Those who did know should've informed him and everyone else long before this blew up into another national story.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 25, 2020, 12:28:20 pm
https://twitter.com/jeff_gluck/status/1276188964488003584

Here is a picture of the pull rope. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 25, 2020, 12:51:58 pm
https://twitter.com/jeff_gluck/status/1276188964488003584

Here is a picture of the pull rope. 

Pretty easy to see why he and his team were freaked out about it. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 25, 2020, 01:13:14 pm
Growing up in California in a multiracial neighborhood where I was peppered in the 50's and 60's by tv Westerns, I associated nooses with cattle rustlers and mobs eager for vengeance on gunslingers.   There were Westerns on up to 3 and 4 every night.  Wagon Train, Bonanza, The Virginian, Gunsmoke, Wanted Dead or Alive, Have Gun Will Travel, Bat Masterson, Wyatt Earp, Johnny Yuma, Rawhide, Lone Ranger, Cisco Kid, plus the whole stable of Warner Brothers: Cheyenne, Maverick, Sugarfoot, and some I've forgotten.   Along with this, we had old Gene Autry and Roy Rogers movies, not to mention John Wayne and the spaghetti Westerns.   I lived in Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Nebraska before coming to Illinois.  I was in my 40's before associating nooses and lynching with African Americans.  Like I said, you lynched horse thieves and cattle rustlers and murderers not Black people.  It was a rude awakening and a really sad time in our history.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 25, 2020, 06:47:15 pm
Pretty easy to see why he and his team were freaked out about it.

The whole situation makes little sense. The rope had been there since last year prior to Wallace randomly drawing the stall. That means others had seen it and said nothing at any point, and nobody could have known he was going to end up with that specific stall. Also, if one is looking to harass Wallace, why go to the trouble of putting the rope into a functional form on the garage door when a far easier, quicker, and less ambiguous way would be to simply toss the rope near Wallace's belongings or even on or in his car?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 25, 2020, 07:16:45 pm
Maybe it looked like a noose. Things are little tense right now. It was investigated and there wasn’t anything to it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 27, 2020, 07:24:07 pm
5.3% of NBA players tested positive for COVID-19.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 29, 2020, 12:26:18 am
Good Great news for JR and me!  Fox never did learn proper camera placement around the greens.   Joe Buck and their announcers did an abysmal job.  The NBC personnel will be able to tell us where an errant shot landed instead of nothing but silence from the Fox crew.

NBC gets U.S. Open as Fox gets out of contract, report says

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/29380918/nbc-gets-us-open-fox-gets-contract-report-says
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 29, 2020, 01:43:23 am
Agreed.  Fox' golf coverage is bloody awful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 29, 2020, 07:54:16 am
Good Great news for JR and me!  Fox never did learn proper camera placement around the greens.   Joe Buck and their announcers did an abysmal job.  The NBC personnel will be able to tell us where an errant shot landed instead of nothing but silence from the Fox crew.

NBC gets U.S. Open as Fox gets out of contract, report says

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/29380918/nbc-gets-us-open-fox-gets-contract-report-says

Oh yeah that is some great news!  Kind of surprising the USGA would just let Fox out of its contract and give up half the revenues they were set to receive on the deal.  Then again it's also surprising they apparently signed a contract that allowed them to move the US Open to FS1 if Fox wanted. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 29, 2020, 09:39:25 am
Now if only CBS and NBC would forget the terrible idea of splitting the screen between live golf action and commercials.  There are always gaps that can be used if something worthwhile happened during the break.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 09, 2020, 08:09:18 pm
Just rewatching some of The Last Dance tonight. 

One thing I don’t get, when things got to the point in that last season where Krause said Phil Jackson wouldn’t be back and in turn MJ said he wouldn’t be back unless Jackson was the coach, why in the hell didn’t Reinsdorf just fire Krause and bring Phil and MJ back?

Krause did do some good things to build the team, but when it comes down to it, he’s not nearly as valuable to the organization as the greatest player and possibly the greatest coach of all-time. 

I’m sure that befuddled all the hard core Bulls fans back in ‘98 but as someone who wasn’t the biggest Bulls fan then and didn’t follow that all that closely then, it’s just befuddling to sit here and watch that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 09, 2020, 08:49:26 pm
LOL, I think it's pretty obvious.  Reinsdorf was the driving force behind all this and Krause was a convenient scapegoat.  Not that both Jerrys weren't on-board, but the idea that Krause did all this over Reinsdorf's objections is and always has been ludicrous.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 09, 2020, 09:53:42 pm
LOL, I think it's pretty obvious.  Reinsdorf was the driving force behind all this and Krause was a convenient scapegoat.  Not that both Jerrys weren't on-board, but the idea that Krause did all this over Reinsdorf's objections is and always has been ludicrous.

Yeah you're probably right, but still, how do you let that happen?  I still haven't gotten my head around that one all this time after The Last Dance ended.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on July 09, 2020, 10:27:28 pm
In every organization there is one person who knows how everything works.  That person must be fired.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on July 10, 2020, 01:25:14 pm
Charley Walters  @Charley_Walters  26m
Bud Chapman, the iconic Minneapolis golfer who has shot his age 3,899 times or better, has passed at 97.
 
Chapman is better known as the artist who came up with the “Infamous 18 Holes” paintings.  I have his Victoria Falls first hole hanging next to my limited edition 2016 Cubs World Series championship plaque in my living room


(https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/QigAAOSwnHZYSJWs/s-l225.webp) (https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/9C8AAOSwB09YSJbI/s-l225.webp)  (https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/g3kAAOSwB09YSJr1/s-l225.webp)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 12, 2020, 11:31:32 pm
Snyder finally caved under the financial pressure and will change the Washington football club's racist, offensive name and logo (though knowing him I hesitate to think what the new one will be).  Boycotts actually do work.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on July 12, 2020, 11:37:38 pm
I hear Injun Savages is on his list.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on August 09, 2020, 12:10:21 pm
CBS coverage of the PGA Tour and the PGA championship has been abysmal.  Fox was the absolute best at this and now they are out. It’s a shame.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on August 09, 2020, 12:26:50 pm
ESPN is also very good at this. It’s jarring to see the difference when they switch to CBS.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 09, 2020, 08:27:56 pm
That was a great tournament.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on August 09, 2020, 08:31:06 pm
Bunch of rumors that college football is going to be postponed or cancelled in the next 72 hours.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 09, 2020, 10:33:36 pm
That was a great tournament.

Felt bad for Casey though. Great guy time is running out on, and played well enough to win most of the time.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 09, 2020, 10:36:17 pm
Yeah I felt bad for Casey too.  He’s had a really good career and deserves to win a major at some point.

Still Morikawa is so impressive.  What a shot on 16!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 09, 2020, 10:36:59 pm
Casey was classy in his praise of Collin.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on August 10, 2020, 12:16:02 am
That was a great tournament.
At one point there was a seven-way tie for the lead with just a few holes to go.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on August 10, 2020, 12:24:54 am
It's always nice to see someone go out and win a tournament instead of the other contenders falling back.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on August 10, 2020, 08:16:38 am
Yeah I felt bad for Casey too.  He’s had a really good career and deserves to win a major at some point.

Still Morikawa is so impressive.  What a shot on 16!

His ball striking is quite remarkable.  In the 15 years since strokes gained has been measured, he’s right up near the very best in the non-Tiger category. If he keeps this up, he’ll be near the best in the world for a long time.  His putting is not so good but when he has good weeks, he’ll win. This week was a very good putting week for him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 10, 2020, 11:54:06 am
Morikawa did some clutch putting to beat Thomas at the Workday Charity Open.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on August 10, 2020, 01:17:12 pm
Morikawa did some clutch putting to beat Thomas at the Workday Charity Open.

Yes, he did.  He’s 140th in strokes gained putting. If he gets that up to top 50 and continues to hit the ball the way he does, he’ll win a lot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on August 13, 2020, 02:39:41 pm
Tom Pelissero  @TomPelissero  1h
The #Seahawks cut rookie CB Kemah Siverand this week after he was caught on video trying to sneak a female visitor into the team hotel, per sources.

Clear message on the responsibility everyone has in the NFL’s COVID-19 world: Put the team at risk, suffer the consequences.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 13, 2020, 02:44:41 pm
Tom Pelissero  @TomPelissero  1h
The #Seahawks cut rookie CB Kemah Siverand this week after he was caught on video trying to sneak a female visitor into the team hotel, per sources.

Clear message on the responsibility everyone has in the NFL’s COVID-19 world: Put the team at risk, suffer the consequences.

Wow, you're an UDFA, having possibly your one shot to ever make an NFL roster, and you do that? 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 14, 2020, 08:52:56 am
That rarest of all things, good news for Bulls fans - Boylen is out.  It took too long, and it's hard not to imagine that was due to a power struggle behind the scenes, but this at least allows the possibility for hope.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 14, 2020, 08:59:22 am
On cue, K.J. Johnson acting like he predicted this all along.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 14, 2020, 09:08:06 am
Kenny Atkinson would be a great choice.  No need to wait for the bubble to burst.  Got screwed by the Nets, a proven developer of young talent.  Maybe he isn't the guy to get to to Point A, but would at least be a good fit to get you to Point B (think Doug Collins when the Bulls hired him the first time).  Dignity, competence and teaching would be a good place for the Bulls to start.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on August 14, 2020, 12:40:00 pm
Joe Cowley
@JCowleyHoops
According to the source, the Boylen file with human resources wasn't the greatest, including a verbal run-in with a team chef.

It was significant enough that the Bulls lawyers had to get involved.  I have no idea how this guy lasted so long.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 14, 2020, 06:57:35 pm
Your last statement was surely meant ironically, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 17, 2020, 04:25:30 pm
Pretty damning take on Boylen, not that anyone will be surprised:

https://theathletic.com/2001167/2020/08/17/the-rise-and-fall-of-jim-boylen-the-latest-ringleader-of-the-bulls-circus/?source=emp-shared-article
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on August 19, 2020, 08:32:19 am
Collin Morikawa on keepsakes from his PGA championship win:

Quote
There was one other memento from Harding Park he didn't want.

TaylorMade had special golf bags for its staff players, trimmed in black and orange for a San Francisco Giants theme. Morikawa grew up in the Los Angeles area. The bag went to his caddie.

'Promised him at the beginning of the week that's it's his, and it's still going to be his,' Morikawa said. 'I do not want that in my house, being a Dodgers fan.'
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on August 20, 2020, 05:01:58 pm
Bulls gonna get anywhere in this lottery tonight for what is supposedly a subpar draft?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 20, 2020, 05:43:27 pm
Seven is destiny. You should know that.

Fwiw AK says he thinks this draft is underrated. But it seems like a pretty good year to be around 6-8, what with no consensus stars on the board.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on August 20, 2020, 07:52:18 pm
First a new front office and coach and now a top-4 pick. Maybe things are turning around.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on August 20, 2020, 08:09:52 pm
Three players seems to stick out so the Bulls get 4th.

Then again, I want no part of Ball or his family.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 20, 2020, 08:52:18 pm
Amazing - the stench of GarPax and Boylen starts to clear out and you get a little luck.

Start hoping Deni Avdija falls to us - he's the guy I really want.  If he goes #3, you have to take Ball - no question about it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on August 21, 2020, 02:41:38 pm
Dustin Johnson is extremely good at golf.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 21, 2020, 06:46:36 pm
Great at putting up video game numbers in regular tour events.  Not so good at finishing the job when it really counts, in majors.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 24, 2020, 12:15:46 am
Luca may end up being better than LeBron.  Hell, he may already be better than LeBron.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on August 26, 2020, 10:19:59 am
Nice article on a great Cubs fan


Maybe Dave23 can decipher some of the autographs.

(https://www.pgatour.com/content/pgatour/beyond-the-ropes/2020/08/25/kevin-streelman-connection-bmw-championship-olympia-fields-chicago-cubs/_jcr_content/articleBodyCenterParsys/image.img.jpg/1598387525250.jpg)

https://www.pgatour.com/beyond-the-ropes/2020/08/25/kevin-streelman-connection-bmw-championship-olympia-fields-chicago-cubs.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 26, 2020, 11:07:28 am
Thanks, Bennett.  I enjoyed that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on August 26, 2020, 11:55:09 am
Thanks, Bennett.  I enjoyed that.

I've never paid much attention to Kevin Streelman but I'll be rooting for him from now on.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on August 26, 2020, 12:19:09 pm
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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 27, 2020, 10:31:11 pm
Did MJ just save the NBA again?

Quote
The owners held a virtual meeting Thursday morning, and two participants confirmed that Jordan — who serves as the NBA Labor Relations Committee chairman — was a voice of reason, urging the other owners to allow the players to express their frustrations and concerns before offering any of their own solutions.

“Right now, listening is better than talking,” Jordan told the group, according to sources.


Now ESPN is reporting that the players have voted to resume the season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on August 30, 2020, 07:16:35 pm
#2 on ESPN’s top ten plays Sunday night as to be Dustin Johnson holing a winding 43 foot putt on the 72nd hole to tie Jon Rahm and force a playoff.

#1 has to be Rahm sinking a 66 footer to win the BMW championship on the first playoff hole.

Unless John Buccigrass is doing the selection and makes #1 a hockey goal that you can’t see even in slow motion.

https://youtu.be/HcccM1f3FN4
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 30, 2020, 07:24:22 pm
Shame not to have fans at Olympia for theatrics like that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 30, 2020, 07:47:59 pm
The only reason there was a playoff was that Rahm was penalized a stroke yesterday for forgetting to mark his ball before picking it up on the green.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 30, 2020, 07:48:53 pm
And DJ came close to sinking his 35 footer on the playoff hole.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 30, 2020, 08:07:22 pm
When Rahm finally breaks through and wins a major, look out.  He's monstrously talented and has a flair for big moments and tough golf courses.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on August 31, 2020, 08:18:11 pm
Jimmy Butler single-handedly beating the best team in the league tonight. That trade looking worse and worse for the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 06, 2020, 04:49:20 pm
I's not often when a tennis highlight is posted here.


https://youtu.be/TtpfrhiV8G8
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on September 06, 2020, 05:54:47 pm
Djokovic is having a bonehead year to end all bonehead years.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 10, 2020, 02:57:45 pm
ESPN  @espn  1h
Today is the first day EVER that the NFL, MLB, NBA, WNBA, MLS and NHL will all play on the same day
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: dogstoothe on September 10, 2020, 06:48:33 pm
This Alicia Keys or whatever her name is is just plain awful, how does she sell a single record? Even the way she wears her jeans is a drag. Sorry, but c’mon.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: dogstoothe on September 10, 2020, 08:51:58 pm
Good lord, I hope she doesn’t sing at halftime.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on September 11, 2020, 07:04:30 am
I like Alicia Keys.  She can sing and play.  I don't think last night was her best performance by a far cry though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dihard on September 15, 2020, 08:25:17 pm
Jimmy Butler is clutch.


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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on September 16, 2020, 06:50:43 pm
Strong buzz among the bettors that it's going to be Unseld Jr. for the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 17, 2020, 01:00:50 am
The U.S. Open golf tournament begins Thursday at the notoriously difficult Winged Foot course in New York.  One big obstacle they will have to contend with is the nearly 3 hours less daylight compared to June.


As much as I enjoy watching the Masters from Augusta, Georgia each year, it is always a special treat to watch golf played with every club in the bag rather than just drivers and wedges. 


"We're not trying to punish the best players in the world, we're trying to identify them."



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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: dogstoothe on September 21, 2020, 09:03:52 pm
Oh my God, ohhh this is the worst song/band I’ve ever heard, half time Saints and Raiders, absolutely worst they should not be allowed to ever play anywhere whoever they are and they should be banned from TV.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on September 22, 2020, 05:12:50 pm
Holy crap, Billy Donovan has agreed to coach the Bulls. That’s a real surprise.

Time will tell if this was the right move - it’s risky.  But it’s certainly a statement of purpose - and one they’ll be hoping the FA class of ‘21 is paying attention to.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Exile236 on September 23, 2020, 08:26:10 pm
Risky?! In what way was it risky, he was by far the highest profile coaching candidate on the open market. He literally won COY this year! (Edit: as voted by his fellow coaches)

In his first season with Oklahoma City, Donovan advanced to the West finals with Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook, and he reached the playoffs in each of the next four campaigns. Donovan was 243-157 (.608) as the OKC coach. He signed a five-year deal with the Thunder upon arriving from the University of Florida, where he won two national championships.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Exile236 on September 23, 2020, 08:29:32 pm
They are absolutely in a position to make a play for some of the "next great FA class" in 2021: AD, Gianni's, Kawhi, Paul George, LeBron, among others.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on September 23, 2020, 11:27:02 pm
It's risky.  Donovan left OKC because he didn't want to be part of a rebuild.  How patient is he going to be when it comes to developing young talent?  It's risky because by hiring Donovan AK is committing himself to an all-or-nothing attempt to turn it around quickly, which may mean giving up on some of our young guys with potential before we know what they can be with decent coaching.  There are also quite legitimate questions about Donovan as an Xs and Os coach, given his repetitive first round exits from the playoffs.

Donovan being the most high-profile guy on the market has nothing to do with whether he was the right guy or not.  But that said, I still would have made the hire, even with the risks, because hiring Donovan makes a statement that the organization is serious again and that was necessary going into 21-22 free agency.  Hiring a first-time coach like Unseld Jr. or a guy known as a developer like Atkinson would have been safer choices, to be sure.  But the Bulls probably needed to be bold, and that's what they did by hiring Donovan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on September 24, 2020, 12:08:09 am
It's risky.  Donovan left OKC because he didn't want to be part of a rebuild.  How patient is he going to be when it comes to developing young talent? 

The good news then is that the Bulls don't have much young talent. White's a keeper I suppose. Levine's like Dominique. Puts up great numbers, probably will never win anything. Carter looks very solid. Markkanen regressed and doesn't seem to know what kind of player he wants to be. Porter might be a good player if he could ever stay healthy. Dunn looking more like a bench player by the minute.

Betting the front office does some trade packaging. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on September 24, 2020, 01:36:34 am
Porter isn't young and is vapor after this season, unless we can trade him.  But how can you make judgments on the other guys when the only coaches they've played for are Hoiberg and Boylen?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on September 24, 2020, 01:42:22 pm
Porter isn't young and is vapor after this season, unless we can trade him.  But how can you make judgments on the other guys when the only coaches they've played for are Hoiberg and Boylen?

Porter just turned 27. That seems pretty young to me. Fair enough on the other points, but we'll see if it's too late to change early habits.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: dogstoothe on September 28, 2020, 07:57:26 pm
Andy Reid has like a motorcycle helmet with a clear plastic face guard In place of a mask. Looks a lot more functional and comfortable, can bark orders easier and blow his nose too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 29, 2020, 02:31:44 pm
The NFL has its first COVID-19 team outbreak. At least nine members of the Tennessee Titans have produced confirmed positive test results in the past four days, a rash of coronavirus infections that could potentially have spread during Sunday's game against the Minnesota Vikings at U.S. Bank Stadium.

The Titans have closed their practice facility until at least Saturday, while the Vikings have closed theirs until they have further test results. Decisions on both teams' Week 4 games are pending.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 09, 2020, 10:43:56 pm
Jimmy Butler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on October 10, 2020, 03:16:05 pm
Pretty significant ballgame on CBS...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 13, 2020, 08:43:13 pm
Titans!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on October 30, 2020, 09:01:02 am
Ive started a collection that I thought some here might appreciate.

Im collecting golf ball markers from famous golf courses.

You can pretty much only find them on ebay but Ive already bought 18 of them and they're pretty much the one's you'd suspect [Pebble Beach,Augusta,Sawgrass,St. Andrews etc].

Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on October 30, 2020, 09:08:28 am
 Cypress Point, Pine Valley, National, Chicago Golf, Oakmont, Camargo (the best under the radar golf course in America), Sand Hills, Crystal Downs
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 30, 2020, 09:13:02 am
Jack, have you played up in Kohler?  Black Wolf Run?  Or is that the Sand Hills you mentioned?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on October 30, 2020, 09:24:28 am
Jack, have you played up in Kohler?  Black Wolf Run?  Or is that the Sand Hills you mentioned?

Yes, many times. Sand Hills is in Nebraska. Sand Valley is a relatively new place in Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on October 30, 2020, 09:26:51 am
Speaking of Wisconsin I bought Whistling Straits recently.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on October 30, 2020, 09:33:17 am
I have Harding Park,Scottsdale,Quail Hollow,Bellerive,Bay Hill,Spyglass Hill,Doral,Pebble Beach,Sawgrass,Wailea,Whistling Straits,Kiawah Island [my favorite],Augusta,St. Andrews,Baltusrol,and Bethpage Black.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on October 30, 2020, 09:35:42 am
What’s your goal? You could look at the new top 100 list that just came out and check those off. Or do you want interesting logos?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 30, 2020, 09:40:11 am
Yes, many times. Sand Hills is in Nebraska. Sand Valley is a relatively new place in Wisconsin.
  Pardon my ignorance, but when I lived in Nebraska, there was a golf course in the middle of nowhere that had sand greens and boasted that Buffalo Bill played there once.  That isn't what you're talking about, right?  Whistling Straits is the partner course to Black Wolf Run, right?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on October 30, 2020, 09:44:31 am
  Pardon my ignorance, but when I lived in Nebraska, there was a golf course in the middle of nowhere that had sand greens and boasted that Buffalo Bill played there once.  That isn't what you're talking about, right?  Whistling Straits is the partner course to Black Wolf Run, right?

No, Sand Hills was built in 1995 and is probably the best course built in the US in the past 50 years. It’s awesome.

Yes, WS is part of the American Club family of courses.  There are two at Blackwolf Run and two at Whistling Straits.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on October 30, 2020, 09:51:39 am
I dont know what the goal is really.

Honestly its hard to find markers for even certain big time courses.

I guess if its a big name I want it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 30, 2020, 10:01:16 am
No, Sand Hills was built in 1995 and is probably the best course built in the US in the past 50 years. It’s awesome.

Yes, WS is part of the American Club family of courses.  There are two at Blackwolf Run and two at Whistling Straits.
When we lived in Sheboygan, there was only one at Black Wolf.  The other three were glimmer's in Herb Kohler's eye.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 30, 2020, 08:30:17 pm
Carnoustie's is pretty cool too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 07, 2020, 12:10:15 am
Another part of 2020 being such a strange year in the world of sports takes place next week, The Masters golf tournament at Augusta, Georgia.  As always, my phone will go unanswered while it is on.

It should be quite a show, just like always, right up until the point CBS signs off from Augusta National on Sunday afternoon so it can broadcast an NFL game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 12, 2020, 09:19:04 am
Only nine golfers made it onto Augusta National before heavy rain and lightning halted play.  The course is already pretty wet, so along with the shorter amount of daylight hours, completing the first round of The Masters today might be a problem.  The outlook is for conditions to improve the next few days.

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 12, 2020, 10:16:58 am
The photo is Jack Nicklaus with one of the ceremonial first tee shot.

Play has resumed.  62 year-old Larry Mize, the 1987 winner, has the early lead at -2.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 15, 2020, 11:47:58 am
CBS using camera mounted drones to cover The Masters is the best technical innovation in golf coverage in years.  Those of us who have been admiring Augusta National for a long time are seeing new and interesting perspectives of the course.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 19, 2020, 08:43:18 am
ATTN: JR - Nantz might have a legitimate gripe

Jon Heyman  @JonHeyman  48m
During a pandemic is always a good time to try to triple one’s salary

    Andrew Marchand  @AndrewMarchand  21h
    NEWS: Jim Nantz is looking for "Tony Romo money" in showdown with CBS, The Post has learned.

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https://nypost.com/2020/11/18/jim-nantz-wants-tony-romo-money-with-cbs-contract-drama-looming/

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 19, 2020, 08:45:42 am
Lots of tweets on the Jim Nantz situation

https://twitter.com/AndrewMarchand/status/1329104995699068929
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 21, 2020, 08:39:45 pm
My Vols are dog ****.

At least we're supposed to have a stud basketball team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 29, 2020, 10:09:02 am
Who watched Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr. last night?

I loved it.

Here's the full fight...

https://youtu.be/5HKmRtVP7J4

I say give them 6 months to get right and have a rematch.

Tyson seemed to want more but Jones didnt.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 02, 2020, 03:55:54 pm
Long time WWE employee Pat Patterson died today.

Before anyone says anything good about him google "WWF ring boy scandal".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on December 02, 2020, 03:58:26 pm
Long time WWE employee Pat Patterson died today.

Before anyone says anything good about him.....

Was there any risk of anyone knowing who this guy is let alone saying something good about him?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on December 02, 2020, 04:17:03 pm
Dusty is being Dusty again.  Patterson was gay.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 02, 2020, 04:35:50 pm
Not at all Dusty being Dusty.

Patterson is WWE hall of famer so most wrestling fans would know who he was.

Him being gay has nothing to do with my post.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on December 04, 2020, 07:48:55 am
https://youtu.be/httZCL1YUG4
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 04, 2020, 09:10:27 am
I guess #88 picked up another 15 yard penalty for that?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: otto105 on December 14, 2020, 06:00:07 pm
The very real fact is that is parents probably encourage that type of thug behavior. Wonder which one was yelling at the ref from the stands.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 14, 2020, 06:49:46 pm
Gotta hold those cheating refs accountable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on December 15, 2020, 12:31:15 pm
Gotta hold those cheating refs accountable.
Probably an oriental ref
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 23, 2020, 08:46:19 pm
Bulls about to lose by 60 in their opener.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 26, 2020, 08:33:40 pm
The Bulls were up after the first quarter tonight. They've allowed 55 points in 15 minutes since then.

They may be worse then they were last year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 26, 2020, 08:36:26 pm
Former WWE wrestler Luke Harper just died from a non covid related lung issue.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 26, 2020, 08:38:35 pm
Almost a year without playing, almost no preseason, new coach.  There are valid reasons why, but right now the Bulls truly look awful.  The road back for them is long and bleak.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 26, 2020, 08:56:15 pm
I tried to watch them opening night and couldnt get through the first half.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 27, 2020, 12:47:25 am
Former WWE wrestler Luke Harper just died from a non covid related lung issue.

That's a shame.  He was really good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 27, 2020, 07:13:59 am
Harper strikes you as someone who could have done much more than he did but in wrestling that's not his fault.

In ring ability wont draw flies in a shithouse so you're only as good as the promoter allows.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 27, 2020, 09:07:30 pm
GS is pretty bad too, but if there's a bright side so far for the Bulls it's Lauri looking like pre-Boylen Lauri and Hutchison looking like he might be a decent role player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 27, 2020, 09:16:46 pm
Core four each with 20+.  Their defense is terrible, but this Bulls team does have some guys who can score.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 31, 2020, 06:58:13 pm
NBA finals here we come.

UnstoppaBulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 31, 2020, 07:26:52 pm
Hopefully Porter can stay healthy and play at this level, because he could bring back something of real value at the deadline.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 08, 2021, 09:43:50 pm
Lavine 19 on 8-8 shooting in the 1st, White with 10 points in 2 minutes to start the 2nd.  They're still not very good but this Bulls team can be pretty fun to watch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 09, 2021, 11:49:20 am
Corey Crawford announces his retirement.  Thanks for the memories, Crow.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on January 09, 2021, 02:17:06 pm
Who's Corey Crawford?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on January 09, 2021, 02:22:00 pm
Imagine what could have happened if you typed those exact words into google.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 09, 2021, 03:24:52 pm
He's a famous wrestler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 09, 2021, 05:46:30 pm
He's a famous wrestler.

If that were true he wouldn't belong in "Other Sports".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dihard on January 10, 2021, 02:10:30 pm
He's a famous wrestler.
That almost made me spit out my tea.


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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on January 10, 2021, 05:34:04 pm
https://twitter.com/numbersmuncher/status/1348396945413386240?s=21
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 15, 2021, 08:26:04 pm
Anyone paying any attention to the Bulls?

Who would have thought, switching from the worst coach in the league to a good one makes a difference with young players.  It's a long journey, and defense and turnovers are still a huge problem.  But the seeds of revival are clearly visible.  There's a lot of offensive firepower, real depth, and Williams looks like he has a chance to be a really good one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 15, 2021, 08:41:43 pm
Kiss of death, lol.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 15, 2021, 10:09:30 pm
Those turnovers were appalling.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 17, 2021, 04:32:58 pm
Nice response by the Bulls after their epic collapse in OKC. 

Despite a fairly tough schedule they could easily be 8-5 if they had any ability to win close games.  Definite signs of progress under Donovan.
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Post by: Deeg on January 17, 2021, 07:06:54 pm
Also, I was skeptical on Garret Temple but that looks like a genius move.  Leader on the floor, can defend anybody and can really shoot.
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Post by: Playtwo on January 17, 2021, 09:32:08 pm
I was ready to give up on Markkanen after the first half, but he was much stronger in the second half.
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Post by: guest405 on January 18, 2021, 12:23:36 pm
Pruitt fired and Fulmer to retire.

Press conference at 3.

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Post by: JR on January 19, 2021, 10:08:41 am
Well if this is true, Pruitt and his staff were as bad at cheating as they were at coaching.

“They put money into McDonald’s bags and gave them to the recruits when they came on campus,” Patrick said. “Some of the campus visits were not organized, or they were not above board. But they were handing out cash, I don’t know if it was drive through. So you literally had bag men and they put the cash in McDonald’s bags and handed it to the recruits."

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tennessee-football/happy-meal-special-dan-patrick-shares-information-hes-received-regarding-tennessees-recruiting-violations/

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Post by: CurtOne on January 19, 2021, 10:38:07 am
"Would you like to supersize your McMoney?"
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Post by: guest405 on January 19, 2021, 10:41:43 am
Its past the point of losing any sleep over.

Ill root for them no matter who the coach is and how much they lose.

It is what it is but the right hire would fix everything PDQ.

Will they make that hire I doubt it but with Freeze,Malzahn,Chadwell,Fisher,and Mayo available there are coaches to be had.

Word is Peyton wants Adam Gase.
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Post by: CurtOne on January 19, 2021, 10:44:27 am
Its past the point of losing any sleep over.

Ill root for them no matter who the coach is and how much they lose.

It is what it is but the right hire would fix everything PDQ.

Will they make that hire I doubt it but with Freeze,Malzahn,Chadwell,Fisher,and Mayo available there are coaches to be had.

Word is Peyton wants Adam Gase.
  Jared Porter is available.
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Post by: Deeg on January 22, 2021, 06:39:32 pm
Man, what a difference having an actual coach makes.

Bulls may be the deepest team in the NBA when everyone is healthy.  Still need at least one true star to really matter as a team, but progress is progress.
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Post by: JeffH on January 22, 2021, 06:45:16 pm
Man, what a difference having an actual coach makes.

Bulls may be the deepest team in the NBA when everyone is healthy.  Still need at least one true star to really matter as a team, but progress is progress.

Deeg, I watched Bulls-Rockets the other night.  I was surprised by how long (tall) they are as a team.  Very un-Bulls-like (at least recently).
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Post by: Deeg on January 22, 2021, 06:47:15 pm
Deeg, I watched Bulls-Rockets the other night.  I was surprised by how long (tall) they are as a team.  Very un-Bulls-like (at least recently).

Lots of 6'6"-6-8" type guys, and a couple of them pretty athletic.  Lots of guys who can shoot, and some vets who understand how to play in limited roles.  It's a solid recipe for mediocrity, which is a huge upgrade from what we had under Boylen.
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Post by: Deeg on January 22, 2021, 08:21:22 pm
33 assists tonight.

I mean who knows, but this sure looks like a playoff team right now.
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Post by: guest405 on January 24, 2021, 09:51:20 am
Looks like UT is set to hire Clemson OC Tony Elliott.

Im fine with it.
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Post by: guest405 on January 27, 2021, 07:47:19 am
Tennessee football is dead. We're the 300 lb 5 who thinks we're a 10.
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Post by: JR on January 27, 2021, 10:18:09 am
Tennessee football is dead. We're the 300 lb 5 who thinks we're a 10.

Yeah if Heupel is the best they could do, they should have just stuck with Steele as interim coach for a year and hit the reset button.  It doesn't sound like Hugh Freeze or Jamey Chadwell were even contacted. 

Then again, he's coached some explosive offenses.  If he keeps Kevin Steele on as DC, there could be potential there.
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Post by: guest405 on January 27, 2021, 10:36:25 am
He'll keep Steele.

Freeze or Chadwell would have both taken it.
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Post by: guest405 on January 27, 2021, 10:37:31 am
But Ill keep watching and caring cause it's in my blood.

Its just disappointing.
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Post by: CUBluejays on January 27, 2021, 10:47:28 am
I know a guy who knows a guy who knows Chadwell.  Chadwell is more interested in LSU or Florida and wouldn't have taken Tennessee.  With the NCAA looking into them, they may not have had many great choices given their division in SEC.
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Post by: JR on January 28, 2021, 02:06:11 pm
Kevin Steele got to hang around the Tennessee program for two weeks, and it looks like UT will be covering $900K of his buyout from Auburn on account of it.   

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tennessee-football/kevin-steele-volunteers-auburn-nearly-1-million-for-two-weeks-of-work/
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Post by: guest405 on January 28, 2021, 02:43:55 pm
I just read that 2 minutes ago.
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Post by: dogstoothe on February 07, 2021, 07:33:00 pm
This is the absolute worst half time show of all time. Good lord.
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Post by: Deeg on February 10, 2021, 08:37:52 pm
Lavine in the first quarter tonite - 7-7 FG, 5-5 3, 20 points.  That's a good quarter.
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Post by: Chris27 on February 10, 2021, 09:29:42 pm
Yet the team is losing atm despite shooting 60% from the field and 16-29 from three. That's hard to do.
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Post by: Deeg on February 10, 2021, 09:32:18 pm
Some serious matador defense at the UC tonight, man.  Both sides.
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Post by: Deeg on February 10, 2021, 09:48:08 pm
40-14 3rd quarter for the Bulls, who break their 3-point record for a game in 3 quarters with 23 makes.  Zack and Coby each with 8 triples.  32 team assists.
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Post by: JeffH on February 10, 2021, 10:02:17 pm
They're a fun bunch, for sure.
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Post by: Deeg on February 10, 2021, 10:11:42 pm
Amazingly Lavine and White are the first teammates ever to each get 8 threes in the same game.
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Post by: Deeg on February 10, 2021, 10:17:41 pm
Effortless 46 from Lavine tonight.  If you do trade him you better get some serious assets coming back.
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Post by: Playtwo on February 13, 2021, 05:16:45 pm
Spieth with an incredible second shot for an eagle at the 16th at Pebble.
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Post by: Bennett on February 13, 2021, 05:39:34 pm
Spieth with an incredible second shot for an eagle at the 16th at Pebble.

Jordan Spieth's lack of success may finally be coming to an end.  I believe it has taken him this long to get back on track because he had never encountered failure before and had no idea how to handle it.
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Post by: Playtwo on February 13, 2021, 05:43:47 pm
He didn't play all that well today (although decent off the tee).  Hopefully he'll play better tomorrow than he did last Sunday.
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Post by: Jack Birdbath on February 13, 2021, 07:42:31 pm
Jordan Spieth's lack of success may finally be coming to an end.  I believe it has taken him this long to get back on track because he had never encountered failure before and had no idea how to handle it.

Or, he became one of the worst drivers of the ball on tour. You can’t be -0.6 strokes gained off the tee and have much chance. He’s still pretty bad.
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Post by: Deeg on February 20, 2021, 10:13:18 pm
Zach Lavine is officially a stud.  He's developed into a truly great offensive player.  Still no defensive stopper but at least tolerable on that end, but the offense is now star-level.
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Post by: Deeg on February 20, 2021, 10:21:39 pm
Also, Thad Young is fun.
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Post by: Dave23 on February 21, 2021, 09:18:59 am
Hard to believe he’s only 32...
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Post by: Playtwo on February 21, 2021, 11:42:43 am
Are the Bulls close to being 1 elite acquisition away from being a serious contender?
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Post by: Deeg on February 21, 2021, 03:20:51 pm
Are the Bulls close to being 1 elite acquisition away from being a serious contender?

Not in my opinion, more like 2.
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Post by: Playtwo on February 21, 2021, 04:24:46 pm
If that is true, they may never become a serious contender.
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Post by: Deeg on February 21, 2021, 04:43:44 pm
It’s tough to do that.

I mean, If the other elite player was LeBron or KD, sure.  But I think realistically they’re still a number of pieces away.  My priority would be a true point guard, because Coby is not one.  He needs to be the instant offense guy off the bench.  Not only is he not a PG but he’s a butcher on defense, and Lavine really needs to be paired with a decent defender.  Ball either now or as a RFA is an intriguing option.
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Post by: Deeg on February 22, 2021, 08:35:09 pm
I tell you what, the Bulls are pretty decent.

If you kept this same group together and added Paul George and Ball, they might make some noise next year.  Title contender might be a stretch, but I think that's a 50-55 win team.  Problem is George probably wouldn't sign for us.
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Post by: Deeg on February 22, 2021, 08:41:24 pm
Watching Thaddeus Young play is a real reminder of just how awful Boylan was.  Truly a catastrophically bad coach.
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Post by: Deeg on February 22, 2021, 08:45:57 pm
46 point 3rd.
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Post by: method on February 22, 2021, 08:56:23 pm
I tell you what, the Bulls are pretty decent.

If you kept this same group together and added Paul George and Ball, they might make some noise next year.  Title contender might be a stretch, but I think that's a 50-55 win team.  Problem is George probably wouldn't sign for us.

George isnt worth it... he's going to want a max contract and i think his body has taken too much dmg. Its fantastic to see a coach actually maximize the talent he has... also appears maybe our drafting wasnt so bad with a good coach.
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Post by: Deeg on February 22, 2021, 09:11:30 pm
He's an absolute stud, though.  A great two-way player. 
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Post by: Deeg on February 22, 2021, 09:39:45 pm
Well, never mind - George signed an extension, which I didn't realize.  Only Kawhi is a FA.  Obviously he's beyond elite but no chance there.
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Post by: Bennett on February 23, 2021, 02:32:39 pm
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-car-accident-los-angeles
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Post by: Bennett on February 23, 2021, 02:35:13 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu77YE8VoAEpl93?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Post by: JR on February 23, 2021, 02:46:44 pm
Hopefully the leg injuries, not to mention whatever other injuries he has, aren't serious or career threatening.
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Post by: guest405 on February 23, 2021, 02:49:17 pm
Hate it for Tiger.

Ive recently been in the market for a Tiger Woods autograph.

They wont get any cheaper now.
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Post by: Dave23 on February 23, 2021, 04:34:44 pm
Why would his auto go up? He's not dead...
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Post by: guest405 on February 23, 2021, 04:40:59 pm
I was implying if he did.
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Post by: Deeg on February 23, 2021, 06:14:28 pm
Zach Lavine is an All-Star.  Richly deserved, but also a kind of turning point for the franchise, maybe.
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Post by: JR on March 05, 2021, 11:58:20 am
Well I went to my first Predators hockey game in over a year last night.  A few observations:

1.  Going to a hockey game with only around 3,000 people scattered about is just weird.
2.  It's been a hard fall from grace for both the Cubs and the Preds from where things were in 2016-2017, and I'm pretty sad about this.
3.  The Predators really stink.
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Post by: CUBluejays on March 05, 2021, 12:53:04 pm
The Blackhawks should be absolutely horrible this year, like Detroit bad.  The lost their top 2 centers, the goalies where huge question marks, the only have a few goal scores and the defense allows a ton of shots on goal.  Despite all that they've been good and with Seabrook going onto LTIR permanently their long term cap just became a whole easier to manage.  They've been fun to watch even though I still don't really understand hockey all that well.
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Post by: Playtwo on March 05, 2021, 01:21:20 pm
The B'Hawks have been shockingly good.  The emergence of Lankinen has been a key.  Also, they are able to play a very aggressive forechecking game with their young forwards, and that has created scoring chances (which they have not fully capitalized on).  And the D has been much better than expected.  They have a long way to go, but it's possible they will make the playoffs.  It'll be interesting to see whether they want to bring in more established talent with their cap room or whether they'll roll with the youngsters (my preference).
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Post by: Deeg on March 16, 2021, 09:56:56 pm
Both games the Bulls should have won anyway, but it's clear they're so much better with Sato and Thagic in the starting lineup.  That's good for their short-term prospects (I do think making the playoffs has value for the franchise and for Zach) but a bit of a condemnation for their so-called young core.  At the very least the pieces don't fit, and there are very real questions whether Carter, White, and Lauri are good enough to be part of a winning core at all.
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Post by: Deeg on March 25, 2021, 10:42:01 am
Never let it be said AK isn’t going for it.  Lot to give up, but Vucevic is a legit star and they don’t come cheap.
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Post by: Dave23 on March 28, 2021, 01:07:03 pm
I think the Memphis Tigers just proved that the NCAA selection committee really dropped the ball.
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Post by: Chris27 on March 28, 2021, 07:21:47 pm
Bulls new team were down 26 at halftime to the Spurs.
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Post by: Playtwo on April 03, 2021, 10:22:24 pm
Wonderful semifinal game between Gonzaga and UCLA.  I'm glad the Zags pulled it out.
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Post by: JR on April 03, 2021, 10:49:53 pm
That was a classic.
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Post by: Bennett on April 04, 2021, 12:36:56 am
UCLA could use the old Vince Lombardi line:  "We never lost a game but there were a few occasions when we ran out of time".
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Post by: Deeg on April 06, 2021, 07:45:44 pm
This is certainly the most fun it's been to be a Bulls fan in a long time.
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Post by: JeffH on April 06, 2021, 08:05:57 pm
It's the reverse of the GarPax Effect.
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Post by: Deeg on April 06, 2021, 08:13:46 pm
This is Point B.  I think this a playoff team, and I expect them to be above .500 for the rest of the season.  The hard part really comes after that, especially with 2 #1s gone to Orlando.  What do you do with Lauri and Coby?  How do you resolve PG long-term?  I really like Troy Brown and he can be part of the answer on the wing, but you still need help there.  And a lot of how much better the Bulls are this season is on Thagic, who's obviously not a long-term factor.

There is some money below the cap this offseason.  Try for Ball?  Bring in a vet like Holliday or Lowery?
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Post by: JeffH on April 06, 2021, 08:26:49 pm
On Thad, is it salary, age, or both?  He's only a couple of years older than Vuc.  That skillset ages pretty well, no?
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Post by: Deeg on April 06, 2021, 08:49:34 pm
On Thad, is it salary, age, or both?  He's only a couple of years older than Vuc.  That skillset ages pretty well, no?

He's OLD.  At least in basketball terms.  And only under contract for one more year anyway.  Maybe they pick up his option but next year is it either way - and even that might not be possible if they want to go all-in for Ball.
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Post by: Bennett on April 08, 2021, 12:50:28 am
For me the only sporting event that takes precedence over Cubs baseball

(https://www.masters.com/images/course/720x405/H_hole12.jpg)

(https://www.masters.com/images/course/720x405/H_hole13.jpg)
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Post by: BearHit on April 08, 2021, 06:00:11 am
bird watching?
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Post by: Deeg on April 08, 2021, 08:38:17 pm
If I were a top seed in the East, I wouldn't especially want to draw the Bulls in the first round.
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Post by: Deeg on April 09, 2021, 07:49:33 pm
26 on 12 shots in 13 minutes for Lavine so far.


Edit: 31 on 15 shots in 14 minutes.
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Post by: Deeg on April 09, 2021, 08:03:21 pm
39 in the first half for Zach, 7 triples.  At one stage he scored 25 Bulls points in a row.  That was a straight-up MJ level performance.
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Post by: Deeg on April 09, 2021, 08:54:43 pm
They're just double and triple teaming Zach every time he gets across half-court at this point.  You have to make them pay for that - it's on the rest of the guys to prove they're good enough to take advantage.
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Post by: Deeg on April 09, 2021, 08:59:42 pm
White is an absolute sieve defensively.  You can stick around that way if you're as good as Trae Young on the other side, but White is clearly not.
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Post by: Deeg on April 11, 2021, 10:38:37 pm
The wheels were rattling pretty good there at the end, but Matsuyama’s win was huge for Japan.  He’s been hinting at this for a while - maybe the best ball striker in the game, but his putting usually lets him down.  Golf is already huge here but it’s going to be even bigger now.  Even if it did happen at 4-8 AM.
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Post by: ben on April 12, 2021, 07:02:12 am
It was a great win for Matsuyama, Japan, the Masters and for golf!  Very glad to see it happen!
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Post by: Playtwo on April 12, 2021, 09:23:32 am
He almost blew it.  I'm glad he didn't.
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Post by: guest405 on April 13, 2021, 10:17:47 am
I dont guess Vandy posts here anymore but there's a big SEC baseball series this weekend between UT and Vanderbilt and they're both in the top 5.
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Post by: guest405 on April 17, 2021, 09:57:37 pm
Tennessee's got a MFing baseball team we've waited a lifetime for...

https://twitter.com/VolRumorMill/status/1383549038604161024?s=09
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Post by: Deeg on April 23, 2021, 12:11:33 am
Crazy dunk by Sato tonight.  He seems to be good for about 2 per season but he generally makes them count.
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Post by: Playtwo on April 23, 2021, 08:29:22 am
Weird that the Bulls have played better without LaVine.   
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Post by: Deeg on April 23, 2021, 06:53:55 pm
Weird that the Bulls have played better without LaVine.   

Except the games where they played worse.
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Post by: Robb on April 24, 2021, 09:56:52 pm
Anyone watching that UFC fight that just ended?  Gruesome
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Post by: Robb on April 24, 2021, 10:21:09 pm
Do not watch if you are squeamish. https://twitter.com/danawhite/status/1386153535356743681?s=19
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Post by: JR on April 24, 2021, 10:31:00 pm
Anyone watching that UFC fight that just ended?  Gruesome

UFC is still one of those things where I don't get the appeal of it at all.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 29, 2021, 08:45:59 pm
Wow I think the Bears actually did something right in the draft for once.
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Post by: Exile236 on April 29, 2021, 08:59:09 pm
Agreed
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Post by: CUBluejays on April 29, 2021, 08:59:31 pm
It only took Pace 3 free agents and 3 first round picks to find a QB I don’t hate. I wish I worked for the McCaskey’s.
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Post by: Bennett on May 01, 2021, 08:38:18 am
The NFL draft on Thursday night drew a higher rating than all but one of the 2020 World Series games.
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Post by: Playtwo on May 07, 2021, 09:28:39 pm
Great game for the Bulls tonight.  Donovan made a big mistake not immediately restoring White to the starting lineup once they acquired Vucevic.  It's gotta make a point guard's job a lot easier having the option to dump the ball into the big guy. 
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Post by: Deeg on May 07, 2021, 10:09:58 pm
White is such a sieve defensively that I really don't blame Donovan, and he was playing terribly at the time anyway.

This is a nice couple of games, but it's too little and too late to make the play in.  Unless the Bulls get lucky (a one in three shot, basically) in the lottery, they've given up their 1st round pick in a strong draft and much of their cap space to acquire Vucevic and need to still find a way to dramatically improve.  Not saying it was a bad gamble, but the organization is still in a lot of trouble.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 08, 2021, 11:51:01 pm
49 in 29 minutes for Curry tonight, 11 threes.  Without question the greatest shooter in NBA history. 
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Post by: Playtwo on May 09, 2021, 08:29:29 am
It's not just the number of 3's but also the nature of some of the shots.  Just unreal.  Has there been another player with as much entertainment value?  Dr. J maybe?
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Post by: Deeg on May 09, 2021, 08:44:44 am
MJ prime is still #1 for me for sheer entertainment, and pre-injury Rose was a highlight machine.  But Curry is unique to watch.  Most entertaining since Jordan for sure.

That one he hit late in the game, where he backed up to like 35 feet and the defender relaxed, was my favorite of the day.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on May 09, 2021, 11:24:03 am
Most Games With 10+ 3-Point FGs Made (NBA All-Time):

Steph Curry      22


Klay Thompson   5
James Harden     3
Damian Lillard    3
JR Smith            3
Zach Lavine        2
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 13, 2021, 07:51:46 pm
Damn.

https://twitter.com/NBCSBulls/status/1393004935499898882?s=20
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on May 15, 2021, 03:43:33 pm
#4 Tennessee just beat the #1 Arkansas Razorbacks on a 3 run walkoff homer in front of a capacity Lindsey Nelson stadium.

Absolutely F'n warms my heart.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on May 23, 2021, 06:13:44 pm
My list of who might win the PGA championship would not have included Phil Mickelson.  What an amazing four days of golf on a wickedly evil course.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on May 23, 2021, 07:45:04 pm
Ill play Kiawah one day.

I enjoyed watching Phil win.
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Post by: Robb on May 24, 2021, 12:39:42 pm
That one was special. Kind of like Tiger's Master's win in 2019. Will probably be the last either of them win.
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Post by: Deeg on May 24, 2021, 04:44:30 pm
Phil has struggled lately but the thing is despite being almost 51, he still bombs the ball out there far enough to make him competitive on any golf course.  So if he has a good week mentally, he's easily the most dangerous Champions Tour player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 25, 2021, 08:57:26 pm
Doug Nikhazy could pitch for me...

Ole Miss vs Auburn on SEC Network...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on May 26, 2021, 05:51:11 am
How bout them Vols Dave?

Omaha bound...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on May 28, 2021, 05:08:36 pm
Dave Meltzer reports talks of a WWE/NJPW working relationship.

They'd put the other companies out of business.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on May 29, 2021, 02:47:20 pm
Tennessee's going to the SEC championship game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 29, 2021, 02:51:38 pm
as spectators or what/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on June 04, 2021, 08:43:41 pm
YES MF'N SIR!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on June 05, 2021, 05:27:31 pm
Watching Tennessee/Liberty in the NCAA regionals and Adam Greenberg is the color guy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 05, 2021, 06:49:27 pm
Ouch

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/31573312/jon-rahm-forced-withdraw-memorial-tournament-6-shot-lead-positive-covid-19-test
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on June 13, 2021, 07:50:50 pm
The Big Orange are going to Omaha.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 19, 2021, 08:15:51 pm
in the Don't Let the Door Hit Ya Where the Good Lord Split Ya department:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/19/us/cole-beasley-nfl-retire-covid-vaccine/index.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2021, 08:48:43 pm
Well, any hope that lady luck would bail the Bulls out is shot.  It's Vucevic or bust now - we surrendered our 1st and most of our cap space to get him.  Where does the PG come from without much space?  Could they even afford someone like Dinwiddie (who GarPax gave away for nothing) or (shudder) Schroeder?
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Post by: vander-built on June 25, 2021, 02:07:07 pm
I know it’s been discussed with the Cubs and I’m not one to push vaccines on anyone but today’s Vandy NC State game shows the importance of doing it.  Corbin made sure all players, staff and travel party got the vaccine to avoid testing in Omaha.  Part of me will be rooting for NCState today because they are playing but if you want to win, get the vaccine.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on July 10, 2021, 05:07:37 pm
Former Bears LBer Barkevious Mingo arrested on charges of indecency with a child.

Bear down...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on July 18, 2021, 09:45:15 am
“Playing Through”

Undoubtedly the worst thought out idea to ever to be used during a golf telecast.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 18, 2021, 05:57:07 pm
Particularly near the end of the tournament when every shot may count.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 18, 2021, 06:11:01 pm
Honestly I thought NBC's coverage was pretty bad, although working off the world feed couldn't have been helpful.  Some of the camera angles on key putts were really bad where you couldn't even see if the ball went in the hole or not. 

I also think NBC could do a lot better than Paul Azinger as the lead analyst.  He's kind of the Rick Sutcliffe of golf announcers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 18, 2021, 06:32:42 pm
I learned key facts including that some golfers do worse under pressure and some do better.  Can't get that kind of analysis from just anyone.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 18, 2021, 06:36:43 pm
Honestly I thought NBC's coverage was pretty bad, although working off the world feed couldn't have been helpful.  Some of the camera angles on key putts were really bad where you couldn't even see if the ball went in the hole or not. 

I also think NBC could do a lot better than Paul Azinger as the lead analyst.  He's kind of the Rick Sutcliffe of golf announcers.

Faldo is the best.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 18, 2021, 09:52:13 pm
Faldo is the best.

Absolutely 100% agree with that.  Faldo is terrific.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 18, 2021, 10:38:31 pm
Why didn't he cover the Open?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 18, 2021, 11:12:13 pm
Why didn't he cover the Open?

Doesn't work for NBC.  He can only be part of the Golf Channel portion of the telecasts.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 18, 2021, 11:42:01 pm
Faldo is aterrific analyst when you can get him to stop talking about himself.  I miss Johnny Miller too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 19, 2021, 02:35:46 pm
I learned key facts including that some golfers do worse under pressure and some do better.  Can't get that kind of analysis from just anyone.

Yeah and there should have been a drinking game based on how many times he'd talk about how links golf brought out the creative side of Jordan Spieth.  Or how he'd say a shot out of the rough would be no problem for Player X to turn around and say he had a really tricky shot ahead of them when they cut back to them.  Or how many shots were "perfect" even if they wound up in the first cut. Plus he mentioned how Dylan Frittelli wasn't used to weekend pressure at the majors when he just contended at the Masters 8 months ago. 

I kind of always thought Azinger was a blah golf announcer before this weekend, but he just seemed to be particularly bad this past weekend to me for whatever reason.  They really need to find someone else.  Put Justin Leonard in the booth or go recruit someone else.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 20, 2021, 11:21:37 pm
Okie must be glued to the TV right now as Cat Osterman is out of retirement and pitching in the Olympics.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on July 21, 2021, 07:14:46 am
LOL, nah…
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on July 23, 2021, 02:57:57 pm
OMG.  Brings back memories.  Found in my old photobucket account....

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v434/wmljohn/Photoshopped/Mine/nakedcat2.jpg)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v434/wmljohn/Photoshopped/Mine/osterman41.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on July 23, 2021, 03:25:11 pm
Good Lord the SEC champion is gonna deserve a spot in the NFL playoffs now.

Texas and Oklahoma bout to run with the big boys.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 24, 2021, 11:33:12 am
Blackhawks haven’t been having a good week. Jones maybe a #1 defender, but it still seems like an overpayment on the trade and contract if he is that good. If he isn’t that is really going to hurt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 24, 2021, 11:44:55 am
Good Lord the SEC champion is gonna deserve a spot in the NFL playoffs now.

Texas and Oklahoma bout to run with the big boys.

College sports are really getting stupid if it hasn't gotten to that point already.  It's all about the money for everyone involved.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 29, 2021, 10:56:04 pm
Nice get on paper for the Bulls at 38 in Ayo Dosunmu.  Public League kid and UI player who fits a need, almost universally considered a mid-20s talent.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on July 30, 2021, 07:15:06 am
I was kinda hoping the Grizz traded up to 30 to take him…
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 30, 2021, 09:06:23 am
I would actually have taken Sharife Cooper, another 1st round talent who slid (eventually all the way to 48 and Atlanta).  But Dosunmu is still good value there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 02, 2021, 06:48:46 pm
Lonzo to the Bulls on a very nice sign and trade.  Now need a wing - though Ball can guard anywhere 1-3 among the best in the game.  There's actually talk the Bulls could be trying to work a S & T with SA to land DeRozan, with the intent of starting effectively three big guards.  That would be a pretty phenomenal offensive lineup, though only Ball and Williams would be plus defenders.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 02, 2021, 06:50:03 pm
Who's going to replace Theis?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 02, 2021, 06:51:52 pm
Simonovic, presumably.  Though I'm sure they'll sign a reserve big with the VE, or maybe someone a little better like McGee if they can make the dollars work.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 02, 2021, 06:53:57 pm
https://twitter.com/Ballislife/status/1422317077470253056?s=20
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 02, 2021, 07:39:29 pm
Alex Caruso 4 years $37 million is... odd.  Still need a big and don't have a starting wing - why spend that much on Caruso?  He's a an adequate role player but that's a lot of money.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 02, 2021, 07:55:39 pm
I don't know much about Caruso but it would appear that the Bulls are making defense a bigger priority.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 02, 2021, 07:56:10 pm
Wonder if this stockpiling of guards could signal a possible White deal.  He and Lauri together could probably fetch you a decent 3&D wing or a lottery-protected 1st.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 02, 2021, 07:57:45 pm
That seems quite possible, Deeg.  I've grown to like Coby, but the team may be better off dealing him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 02, 2021, 07:58:19 pm
I don't know much about Caruso but it would appear that the Bulls are making defense a bigger priority.

Caruso is an outstanding defender and a good 3-point shooter, but my issue is giving him basically the entire MLE for 4 years when you have no wings.  Williams is better as a stretch 4 but who's the fifth guy in the lineup now?  Markannen may bring something back in a S&T but as of now it's Thad starting at the 4 and Williams as a 3, which is less than ideal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 02, 2021, 08:01:31 pm
Is McGee now out of the picture financially?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 02, 2021, 08:07:19 pm
Nevermind, it looks like McGee is going to Phoenix.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on August 02, 2021, 08:23:19 pm
Can Ball or Lavine create without the balll?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 02, 2021, 08:47:43 pm
Totally appropriate the Bulls got a guy whose dad could beat Michael Jordan in his prime.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 02, 2021, 08:58:06 pm
Looks like Theis to Houston is a sign and trade, which at least gets the Bulls a trade exception.  Between that and whatever you get in return for Markannen (maybe another trade exception) I assume the wing comes from there.  Maybe Rudy Gay?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on August 02, 2021, 09:26:25 pm
Twitter says Derozan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 02, 2021, 10:09:28 pm
Under the NBA’s incredibly Byzantine cap rules, the Bulls could now use their trade exception from the Thies deal to acquire Caruso, effectively turning it into a three-way S&T with the Lakers and Rockets, in the process keeping their MLE.  Whether that would be more beneficial than simply using the TE from Thies depends on what they plan to do next, but you have to think a deal for a wing is in the cards.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 03, 2021, 03:19:25 pm
DeRozan.  Williams will be a 4.  Still need a big man to back up Vucevic.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 03, 2021, 04:52:55 pm
Too much to give up for DeRozan, and the frontcourt is incredibly thin now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ron on August 06, 2021, 07:34:00 pm
American Molly Seidel, running the 3rd marathon of her life, in one of the strongest group of women runners in history, won the bronze medal in Tokyo. Woohoo!  She is the third America woman to medal in the Olympic marathon (Joan Benoit , Gold in 1988 & Deena Kastor Bronze in 2004 were the first two).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on August 08, 2021, 05:24:56 pm
3 man playoff in Memphis…and a bad collapse by English and DeChambeau
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on August 08, 2021, 05:54:56 pm
And Ancer gets career win #1!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 08, 2021, 06:53:54 pm
3 man playoff in Memphis…and a bad collapse by English and DeChambeau

DeChambeau is another anti-vaxx covidiot (maybe he thinks steroids protect him?).  Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.  With as many A-holes and ego bombs as the tour has, you know DeChambeau has to be a piece of work to be as loathed as he is.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 08, 2021, 07:16:49 pm
Not long ago, I played golf with a very strong young player who was a year ahead of DeChambeau in the Fresno area junior golf circuit. 

He said Bryson was generally disliked by other juniors for one reason only: tho' far and away the best player, he was a MAJOR whiner! 

The young man we played with said Bryson was a scratch golfer by age 13, but he complained non-stop about ridiculous stuff related to his golf game, the course set up, the tournament officials/operation etc. before, during and after virtually every round. 

That kind of negativity seems to fuel some athletes (e.g. John McEnroe), but it wears out other competitors and fans of the game.
(in this day and age, so does the head-scratching anti-vax stance!)

By the way, not long ago, I heard McEnroe in a lengthy interview.  He sure has mellowed!  Hopefully, DeChambeau will too, someday.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 08, 2021, 07:34:11 pm
McEnroe is also an extremely smart and self-aware person, which by all accounts DeChambeau doesn't seem to be.  He was always cognizant of the fact that his antics were a form of self-destructive behavior but also that his sense of being wronged was what drove him to lift his level in key moments (to the point where he had to invent wrongs where they didn't exist).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 08, 2021, 10:16:30 pm
Nice to see Ancer get the win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 09, 2021, 08:10:51 am
I just saw where Joe Buck is about to be the latest guest host on Jeopardy.  When they reach the point where they're bringing Joe Buck in, it's kind of like when the Cubs brought in "celebrity" guest singers for the 7th inning stretch and started scraping the bottom of the barrel for singers.  If you've reached the Joe Buck stage of guest hosting, you probably need to get around to finding a permanent replacement.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 09, 2021, 08:30:43 am
This may be the tail end of their guest hosts.  I read somewhere that a final choice has been made but not yet announced.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on August 09, 2021, 09:37:28 am
I can actually see Joe Buck doing a fine job as Jeopardy host.

His voice is clear and concise, and he speaks well.

Also, he's reading straightforward material (answers and questions) with little opportunity for ad-lib, and he's limited to 30 minutes at a time.

Sounds fine to me...

That said...I thought i read that the show's producer was giving the job to himself...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 09, 2021, 09:58:04 am
The rumor was Jennings, former winner.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on August 09, 2021, 10:00:16 am
Why they haven’t given the job to LeVar Burton I do not understand. He’s perfect for it, and would attract viewership in a way that few (if any) other candidates can. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on August 09, 2021, 10:04:26 am
I'd give it to Kate Upton.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on August 09, 2021, 11:18:14 am
I'd give it to Kate Upton.

So would I, but we're talking about the Jeopardy job.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 09, 2021, 11:46:23 am
That said...I thought i read that the show's producer was giving the job to himself...

Yeah I saw that too.  Something about that seems really wrong, but whatever I guess. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on August 09, 2021, 12:01:00 pm
Mike Richards is the executive producer that was being floated as the new host.  The trial balloon went over poorly and they might be walking it back know.  Who is Lavar Burton is the correct answer. 


https://deadline.com/2021/08/mike-richards-allegationsprice-is-right-lawsuit-jeopardy-host-1234811452/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 09, 2021, 10:59:26 pm
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/09/media/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-controversy/index.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 11, 2021, 12:56:28 pm
Mike Richards, Mayim Bialik both named as 'Jeopardy! hosts

"Jeopardy!" executive producer Mike Richards was chosen to succeed the late Alex Trebek as host, with Mayim Bialik to emcee primetime and spinoff series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on August 11, 2021, 01:06:46 pm
I really hope it just gets cancelled.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dihard on August 11, 2021, 04:18:00 pm
Richards. And Blossom. https://apple.news/AUjH9ucnnS8aQowDEgyxDlA


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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 12, 2021, 10:04:23 pm
Should've drafted Sharife Cooper...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on August 15, 2021, 09:08:34 am
Brandon Lyon just won the Amateur golf tournament I played in this weekend. I knew I recognized the name then I looked him up.  He pitched 11 years in the bigs. He shot 2 under on a windy, tough track.

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on August 20, 2021, 01:07:17 pm
For all who watch wrestling and care AEW has a fairly significant show tonight where former WWE champion CM Punk is rumored to be debuting after a 6 year absence.

The best way I can describe it is the early 90's when WWE was king and WCW signed Hogan and the tide shifted.

Vince McMahon just might have enough money and a big enough lead that he cant be caught but it definitely seems like he has competition again.

AEW has also recently signed former WWE champion Daniel Bryan and has another big signing who hasnt been announced which could be Braun Strowman,Bray Wyatt,or Ric Flair and it wouldnt be one bit of a surprise if they sign all 3.

The roster is currently lead by champion Kenny Omega,Chris Jericho,former WWE champion Dean Ambrose,and the Young Bucks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on August 21, 2021, 08:26:56 am
https://youtu.be/ByAXCjqBzLg
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on August 21, 2021, 09:11:34 am
https://youtu.be/aPSyvvsvWvQ
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 27, 2021, 07:20:54 pm
Last major move of the offseason is finally done - a protected first from Portland, a 2nd from Denver (via CLE) and Derrick Jones Jr. for Lauri.  A good return I think, though the debate will be whether they should have just taken Nance.  Clearly AK didn't want to be on the hook for 2 years but Nance is a good player.

Now I think you use the Thies trade exception to sign either a defense-first PF or a gunner.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on September 05, 2021, 11:46:15 pm
Sure was fun to watch Rahm and Cantlay slug is out these past few days.  And 2 birdies on the final hole with 10 mil on the line.  Just awesome.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on September 06, 2021, 05:08:59 pm
Another sneaky good signing by the Bulls in Alize Johnson, who the Nets had to release to sign the AARP brothers last week.  Young PF with real potential.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on September 06, 2021, 05:46:55 pm
One gets the sense that current Bulls management is superior to GarPax.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on September 06, 2021, 05:50:38 pm
One gets the sense that current Bulls management is superior to GarPax.

Ya think?

The approach here is not without risk, for sure.  They gave up a lot of draft capital for 30-plus guys in Vooch and DeRozan.  And with Lavine signing with Klutch now knows what happens next summer.  But they’ve put together a really deep roster that should be solidly competitive and has some upside.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 06, 2021, 09:36:31 pm
Just a heads up Dave, I’m in Atlanta right now witnessing the butt kicking Ole Miss is giving to Louisville.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 06, 2021, 10:15:43 pm
I’m loving it…looks like Lane got us a defense to match the offense!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 06, 2021, 10:18:40 pm
Why are they playing in Atlanta?  Ida?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 06, 2021, 10:59:08 pm
CFA Kickoff Classic
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on September 11, 2021, 10:03:17 pm
Toni Kukoc finally enshrined in the HoF today, with Michael and Jerry on stage.  That's the least Jordan could do, frankly, after the way he treated Toni not just in the Olympics but in Chicago, too.

No one sacrificed more for those 3 titles than The Waiter.  While he could literally play all five positions he was a natural SF, and had to give way to Pippen there and play PF.  And the Bulls came within one bad call of probably winning a 4th straight title in '94, without MJ.  Then the Bulls signed Rodman (one of the few Bulls' big names who acknowledged Toni's greatness in real time) and he had to come off the bench.  Which he did, and won a 6th man of the year award.

Toni was a 2020s player in the 1990s.  He was the first real stretch 4, before Dirk or anyone else, to play in the NBA.  He could do everything - shoot the 3, rebound, post up, spectacular passing.  If he'd gone to any other team he'd have been a starter and perennial all-star, but he sacrificed and became a role player for the Bulls in order to win.  Without question for me the most underrated player in Bulls history. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dihard on September 16, 2021, 10:41:03 am
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/four-reasons-why-revamped-bulls-can-make-serious-noise-in-east-this-season-expectations-rising-in-windy-city/

4th or 5th in the East? Realistic? Too lofty? Too low?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on September 16, 2021, 11:03:56 am
That seems like a best case scenario to me, Di.  Seventh or eighth in the East seems more likely. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on September 16, 2021, 08:32:39 pm
I definitely think they can do better than 8th, but it’s a tough call.  Depends on how well these new pieces fit with the old ones, and how big a jump Ball can make.  DeRozan and Zach are both ball-dominant, and that’s going to be challenging for Ball and Vooch.  OTOH if Ball levels up and the pieces click, you have basically four A-S caliber players on the floor to close games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 24, 2021, 06:38:14 pm
The USA leads Europe 6-2 after the first day of the Ryder Cup.  Playing under pressure like that can't be easy, even for the best players in the world.

Even if you are not much of a golf fan, try to watch some of the action on Saturday and Sunday.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 24, 2021, 06:45:34 pm
Just got back to my hotel from Whistling Straights. That course is a beast. US dominated today.  Watching Bryson hit a 417 yard drive to a sliver of a fairway was something I'll never forget. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 24, 2021, 08:59:40 pm
If you have a chance to play yourself, try Black Wolf Run, Herb Kohler's other course.  I think Birdbath has played it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 25, 2021, 11:08:55 am
I've played Black Wolf and Whistling Straights. Great courses, but they wore me out.   
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on September 25, 2021, 02:03:52 pm
If you have a chance to play yourself, try Black Wolf Run, Herb Kohler's other course.  I think Birdbath has played it.

There are four courses at Blackwolf Run and Whistling Straits.  I’ve played them all. Many years ago right after college, I played a tournament at the Straits course and won it three years in a row so I kept getting invited back so I know that place pretty well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on September 25, 2021, 06:08:23 pm
Lol

I've won a few at Pebble Beach myself.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on September 25, 2021, 06:51:03 pm
I played Spyglass once.  I don't recommend it (if you play golf like me).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on September 25, 2021, 06:52:55 pm
I played Pasatiempo many years ago.  When I asked my wife what the course name meant, she replied: "Waste of Time".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on September 25, 2021, 08:39:40 pm
I played Spyglass once.  I don't recommend it (if you play golf like me).

I played Spyglass last week. It’s a pretty cool spot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on September 25, 2021, 08:40:50 pm
Lol

I've won a few at Pebble Beach myself.

Hey, I used to be good at tournament golf. What can I say? Maybe I’ll be good again one day.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on September 26, 2021, 12:26:14 am
I played both courses at Torrey Pines a number of times, but I much preferred the North Course (used for 1 round in regular PGA tour event) over the South (the other 3, and on the US Open rota).  A setup that brutal was just utterly draining, mentally and physically.  Too long, too narrow, too much slope, too many trees where errant shots tend to go.  It's not a course for golfers at my level, great as it is. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on September 26, 2021, 07:39:40 am
And when they grow the rough at a course like Torrey South or Spyglass, it's beyond brutal! 

Then, add the cross-winds as they've had at Whistling Straits and it's beyond brutal!

At the top of any of the sports we enjoy discussing, the players are ridiculously GREAT!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 26, 2021, 08:09:02 am
I played the North course at Torrey I think.  The fog was so thick I didn't see the front 9 until it finally burned off. No wonder that tee time was available. 
 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 26, 2021, 03:33:37 pm
Morikawa at 17…that was just filthy…
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on September 26, 2021, 05:34:41 pm
I underestimated the US team. Heck of a job by the newbies (and DJ, of course).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 05, 2021, 08:27:11 pm
Well, it’s the first game of preseason and Cleveland sucks, but the Bulls are missing five rotation guys and blowing them out of the building.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 05, 2021, 09:43:20 pm
I’m so glad NO picked Zion…
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 05, 2021, 10:44:37 pm
I don’t know actually good the Bulls will be (better, certainly) but they should be fun to watch.  They’re athletic and have a ton of guys who can pass, and that’s an entertaining combination.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 06, 2021, 07:28:21 am
Javonte Green had a helluva game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 06, 2021, 08:26:49 am
Ball is the key.  I think you know basically what you're getting from the other big three, but Ball is the guy who has the ability to really level up.  If he becomes an All-Star caliber PG, all off a sudden this is a pretty serious team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 06, 2021, 12:17:14 pm
The Bulls got off 109 shots in that game to go along with 18 free throws.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 08, 2021, 07:18:31 pm
Boy, DeRozan is just so smooth.  He makes the game look very easy on offense.

If the Bulls can play any defense they ought to be good, because they should be able to score on anybody.  They have great scoring options all over the floor.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 08, 2021, 07:24:48 pm
Javonte Green can play.  Very active.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 08, 2021, 07:29:27 pm
Vooch should have a field day this season.  They can't double him in the post, he'll have cutters flying to the basket, and he's got a ton of guys to pick and roll with.

Still say Ball is the key to a real contending team.  He pushes the ball every possession and plays great defense.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 08, 2021, 07:36:47 pm
It's just pre-season.  It's just pre-season.  It's just pre-season...

30-17 after a poor shooting quarter, only 3 came at the buzzer.  Alize Johnson looks like Rodman on the boards, Stanley Johnson flashing the moves on offense.  Every team a contender in October.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 08, 2021, 07:43:58 pm
The hype is real.

Hard to believe Lonzo is the same guy who couldn't shoot when he came into the league - his form on the jumper is completely transformed.  I love the way he pushes the ball every damn time and puts the defense under pressure.  Why in the world were the Pelicans so anxious to run this kid out of town?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 08, 2021, 08:30:41 pm
Lonzo's stroke looks unbelievable.  5-6 from 3.

Thing is, Vooch is shooting terribly - he's getting wide-open looks and bricking them, and it's still a blowout.  I know this is another pretty bad opponent, but it's hard not to see this as a very good team.  They have so many guys who can get good shots whenever they want.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 08, 2021, 08:42:14 pm
96-57 after 3.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 08, 2021, 08:49:18 pm
Bulls look to be significantly better even if both of their opponents so far barely have a pulse. I wonder how White's going to fit in.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 08, 2021, 09:30:40 pm
Instant offense guy off the bench.  White, Caruso, and one of the big 3 scorers to anchor the second unit offensively.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 09, 2021, 07:46:30 am
John Hollinger in The Athletic has the Bulls 11th in the East:

https://theathletic.com/2862548/2021/10/06/hollingers-2021-22-chicago-bulls-preview-lineup-roster-prediction-is-there-enough-shooting/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 09, 2021, 07:21:11 pm
John Hollinger in The Athletic has the Bulls 11th in the East:

https://theathletic.com/2862548/2021/10/06/hollingers-2021-22-chicago-bulls-preview-lineup-roster-prediction-is-there-enough-shooting/


That (100% stat-based) projection has drawn Hollinger a mountain of mockery online.  Indeed, the track record for his model isn't especially good anyway.

The Bulls are a very tough team for statistical models to project, since they have only 3 players back from last season.  They have three all-stars and Lonzo in the starting lineup, and it's pretty clear AKME has done a very good job building a deep roster.  I'd be pretty confident taking the over on that 11th place projection.
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Post by: Deeg on October 10, 2021, 07:10:04 pm
Bulls-Cavs 52-52 at halftime.  The dream is over.
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Post by: Deeg on October 10, 2021, 08:28:13 pm
That was an ugly game from the stars, but Ayo took over in the last two minutes for the win.  He won't break the rotation this season but the kid looks like a player.
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Post by: Playtwo on October 11, 2021, 10:52:45 am
My main takeaway from last night Bulls game is just how bad Cleveland is.  As poorly as the Bulls played, it should have been an easy win for the Cavs.  Hopefully, we won't see many performances like that from the Bulls when the games count.
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Post by: Deeg on October 11, 2021, 04:36:33 pm
Vooch's shooting has been abysmal, and he's had limitless open looks.  I think that's going to be a big key going forward.
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Post by: Deeg on October 13, 2021, 08:31:29 pm
So flat-Earther Kyrie Irving still refuses to get vaccinated, which makes him ineligible to play home games due to NY law.  Rather than allowing him to play part-time, the Nets have said he won't play or practice with the team.  Because not using him on the road is a team decision they're only allowed to dock his pay for home games, so if this holds the decision means the Nets are on the hook for $16 million for games he won't play.  But they have pulled any extension offers and said they won't discuss it until he's vaxxed.

While Irving being an abject moron is not news, the lengths abject morons are willing to go to for the anti-vax movement is really striking.  I think the Nets did the right thing, though I suspect there was some pressure from the league to make that choice.
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Post by: Deeg on October 14, 2021, 04:44:05 pm
Another stat-based projection system, 538's RAPTOR, has the Bulls on 38 wins.  That just doesn't pass the eye test for me - basically saying the addition of Ball and DeRozan (and a deep bench) takes them from a 35 win team to a 38 win team.  I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Post by: Deeg on October 16, 2021, 12:00:45 am
Alex Caruso is fun, and much better than I realized.  I can see why Lakers fans were so bummed to lose him.
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Post by: Chris27 on October 20, 2021, 08:42:26 pm
Bulls were poor offensively and still won in Detroit with good defense. Got things to work on and time to gel, but a pretty good sign perhaps.
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Post by: Playtwo on October 20, 2021, 08:45:45 pm
Let's hope so.
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Post by: Deeg on October 21, 2021, 05:08:22 am
Good teams win ugly.  Don't know if this is a good team, but they got the ugly part down.

Vucevic has been terrible shooting the ball through the preseason and tonight.  It would make a huge difference if he turned that around.  You certainly have the superstar in place to carry the team if needed, but that won't be enough against a good opponent.
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Post by: Deeg on October 22, 2021, 07:40:06 pm
Javonte Green really looks like a player.  Who knew.
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Post by: Deeg on October 22, 2021, 07:47:43 pm
38-21 Bulls, Zach - 0 points.  This is not last year.
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Post by: Deeg on October 22, 2021, 07:58:22 pm
Zach comes back and gets 10 in 3 minutes.

They talk about guys who play winning basketball without scoring, that's Lonzo.  His basketball IQ is off the charts.  Why the Pels were so eager to dump him I'll never understand.
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Post by: Deeg on October 22, 2021, 08:10:08 pm
An easy 20 for Zach in the last 6:30 of the quarter, 65-47 at halftime.

It feels weird to be excited about a Bulls team - it's been a long time.  But this is no fluke - they're good.  Not title contenders, but good.
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Post by: JeffH on October 22, 2021, 08:10:22 pm
This Bulls team is pretty good.  I bought an NBA Team Pass just to watch.
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Post by: Chris27 on October 22, 2021, 08:11:24 pm
The Bulls actually have playmakers, athletes, and disrupters. Do they have enough shooting to keep up with all the threes?
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Post by: Deeg on October 22, 2021, 08:16:43 pm
That's why they need White back.
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Post by: Robb on October 22, 2021, 11:18:10 pm
This Bulls team is pretty good.  I bought an NBA Team Pass just to watch.
Me too,  what a fun game tonight.  Reminded me of watching the showtime Lakers.
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Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2021, 02:38:56 am
MVP chants for Zach - and Caruso.  Zach with 66 points on 36 shots thru 2 games.

The schedule starts easy, then gets really tough. Unfortunately for the Bulls the balance of power has shifted to the East at the wrong time, but this team sure is fun to watch.  Caruso is legit one of the best defenders in the league, and Alize would probably lead the league in rebounding if he played starters minutes (not a sexy stat in the analytics era, but that has value).  Lavine is giving off superstar vibes, and Ball is a tremendous all-around player.  Triple-double tonight with 0 turnovers.
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Post by: Playtwo on October 23, 2021, 08:52:26 am
DeRozan had a nice game.  And Green brings great energy.  Williams looked lost defensively.  Good game against a bad shorthanded team.  I can't wait to see them play the top tier teams.
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Post by: Playtwo on October 23, 2021, 09:14:45 am
And I shouldn't forget about Caruso who is a lot of fun to watch.
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Post by: Robb on October 23, 2021, 10:10:38 am
Williams looks a step slow, but he is coming off that ankle injury with only 1 preseason game. 
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Post by: Bennett on October 23, 2021, 04:40:47 pm
The nine overtime finish between Illinois and Penn State

https://youtu.be/FYICppZ3x8Y
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Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2021, 07:58:49 pm
Zach scoreless until 6 minutes left in the half again, this time the Bulls are only up 5.

Detroit isn't a bad team - I like how they play.  Add Cunningham to that group and they look decent.  The East is really loaded.
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Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2021, 08:06:03 pm
Classic Bulls - playing with four guards, they get two blocks (Ayo and Lonzo) on one possession, followed by a steal by Caruso then a fast break.
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Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2021, 08:07:27 pm
Man, the defense is unbelievable - so far.
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Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2021, 08:11:04 pm
54-43 in a half where we shot poorly - 40%, 33% from 3, Lavine 2-10.  Defense wins championships.  Also, 14 assists and 1 TO.
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Post by: JeffH on October 23, 2021, 08:16:26 pm
Fun, fun, fun.  I dig, Bro.
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Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2021, 08:37:36 pm
Vooch looks broken with his shot.  That's the only real worry for me so far.  He's missing threes, he's missing bunnies at the rim, he's missing midrange - and he's always wide-open.  Once we start playing good teams, that will kill us.
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Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2021, 08:46:09 pm
It's 73-49 on honestly a pretty subpar offensive performance.  DeRozan has been great (his hops are surprising) but Zach and Vucevic aren't making anything.  Detroit isn't a good team but they're better than they have been.
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Post by: JeffH on October 23, 2021, 08:55:27 pm
Lonzo hitting 3s is a dangerous, dangerous player.
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Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2021, 08:56:23 pm
Lonzo is a tremendous basketball player.  He's the X-factor for this team.

Maybe a Marko sighting tonight?
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Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2021, 09:00:13 pm
Lonzo 4 blocks, Caruso 5 steals.
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Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2021, 09:03:08 pm
Why are you putting Vooch and Lavine back in with a 30-point lead?
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Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2021, 09:17:28 pm
Very sloppy 4th quarter.
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Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2021, 09:20:50 pm
Left the starters in way too long.
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Post by: Playtwo on October 23, 2021, 10:14:03 pm
Much better game for Williams tonight.
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Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2021, 10:31:57 pm
Much better game for Williams tonight.

Yeah, he looked more comfortable.  I’m still not sold in him - not an elite athlete, not an elite shotmaker or passer.  And his development is somewhat stymied by the fact that there’s very little room for him to matter in this offense.  But the stars in that draft went before he did, he’s only 20, and should at least be a decent borderline starter.  Right now, though, the Bulls are better with Woo on the floor.
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Post by: Playtwo on October 24, 2021, 08:22:27 am
Williams has nice midrange potential.  And he can hit a 3 now and then.  It looks like he can be at least an above average defender.  Also rebounds.  There's quite a bit to like.
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Post by: Deeg on October 24, 2021, 10:25:52 am
Williams has nice midrange potential.  And he can hit a 3 now and then.  It looks like he can be at least an above average defender.  Also rebounds.  There's quite a bit to like.

Considering his size and that he’s mostly playing the 4, he doesn’t rebound much.
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Post by: Playtwo on October 24, 2021, 10:42:57 am
That's fair enough.  But so far rebounding hasn't been a problem for the Bulls.  Williams is still learning the pro game and seems to have room to grow.  His skill set nicely complements those of the other starters.  I'm looking forward to his further development this season.
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Post by: CUBluejays on October 24, 2021, 07:44:38 pm
The Blackhawks are horrible.  It might be time to clean house.
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Post by: Playtwo on October 25, 2021, 08:12:48 am
I'd give them another few games.  Yesterday was awful, but they were decent in the previous two games.  Very short leash though.
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Post by: Deeg on October 26, 2021, 05:21:28 am
That was pretty scrappy - a win's a win, but that was an ugly fourth quarter.  Toronto is a junkyard dog of a team and the Bulls were definitely rattled, but having DeRozan really got them across the line.  He didn't have a good game but he knows how to finish.
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Post by: Playtwo on October 26, 2021, 08:15:53 am
LaVine is being too deferential early in games.  He doesn't need to overdo it, but he should be getting more decent shots in the first quarter.
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Post by: Robb on October 26, 2021, 01:43:49 pm
Isn't he scoreless in the first quarter so far?  Considering he has scored 25 per game that is incredible. 
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Post by: Robb on October 26, 2021, 01:45:32 pm
Whatever plan had them inbounding to Vucevic needs to be scrapped. That was a disaster waiting to happen.  He was the last guy on the court you wanted handling the rock or shooting a late game free throw.
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Post by: Playtwo on October 26, 2021, 02:22:53 pm
It'll be interesting to see whether the ouster of Bowman will have a positive affect on the quality of the Blackhawks' play (which could hardly get much worse).
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Post by: CUBluejays on October 26, 2021, 04:30:36 pm
I don't think that happens until Colliton gets canned.  The Blackhawks might be better off being horrible this year though.  The NHL draft has some studs and their first round pick next year is top 2 protected in the Jones trade. 

It certainly is going to be interesting to see what happens when Toews and Kane contracts are up.
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Post by: Deeg on October 26, 2021, 06:10:44 pm
Whatever plan had them inbounding to Vucevic needs to be scrapped. That was a disaster waiting to happen.  He was the last guy on the court you wanted handling the rock or shooting a late game free throw.

He shot 84% last season.
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Post by: Playtwo on October 26, 2021, 06:47:29 pm
I think I read that Vucevic is a notoriously slow starter.  Hopefully his game will come around.
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Post by: Robb on October 26, 2021, 07:22:34 pm
He's a career 75%. Not bad but with the way he has shot the ball so far this year,  he's the last guy I wanted shooting those 2 free throws. He split them, just barely, but could have put the game away. 
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Post by: Deeg on October 26, 2021, 08:20:35 pm
He’s also a huge target who was the only guy Ball could find on a couple of inbounds plays late in the game.  And again, 84% last season.

Also, zero boards for Williams last night.
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Post by: JR on October 26, 2021, 09:38:14 pm
For Dusty, Drew McIntyre and Sheamus are at tonight’s Predators game.  I actually didn’t know both of those guys lived in Nashville.
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Post by: Deeg on October 27, 2021, 06:06:17 pm
Lavine with a torn ligament in his left thumb.  Could be one of the reasons he’s started slowly, as it’s apparently been an issue for a while.  Says he’s going to play through it but this could be a real problem.
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Post by: wmljohn on October 28, 2021, 09:58:09 am
Trivia Question

Name the only person who has played for the White Sox, Bears, Bulls and Black Hawks.
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Post by: Bennett on October 28, 2021, 10:03:48 am
Nancy Faust?
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Post by: Robb on October 28, 2021, 10:21:44 pm
It was a loss, and certainly exposed the Bull's weaknesses, but it was nice to see them fight to the end and almost pull it out. 
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Post by: Playtwo on October 29, 2021, 12:03:47 am
Losing to a good but not great Knicks team at home is not terribly encouraging.
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Post by: Deeg on October 29, 2021, 05:50:22 am
Vooch looked the best he has all season, at least.  The rebounding is a big problem, though.  Might have to start using Bradley just for his size.
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Post by: wmljohn on October 29, 2021, 06:51:19 am
Nancy Faust?

Did you google or know it?  That is correct sir.

Nancy Faust, the stadium organist.
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Post by: Dihard on October 29, 2021, 01:37:23 pm
Ugh. Huge loss if true.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/patrick-williams-injury-bulls-forward-expected-to-miss-rest-of-season-with-left-wrist-dislocation-per-report/
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Post by: Playtwo on October 29, 2021, 02:52:52 pm
That was a dirty foul by Robinson.  Terrible for the NBA to have promising players sidelined due to plays like that.
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Post by: Deeg on October 29, 2021, 06:30:33 pm
Wow, what a blow.  May have no choice but to dangle White for a PF now, as they're already way too small.
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Post by: Deeg on October 30, 2021, 08:46:39 pm
Williams getting hurt is obviously a blow, but I don't mind seeing Jones Jr. and Bradley get some minutes.  Both long and athletic, and we can use more of that.
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Post by: Deeg on October 30, 2021, 08:53:49 pm
The Bulls are playing a very good game, but you can't afford to miss this many easy shots against a great team like Utah.  Vooch especially - he's just not right.
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Post by: Deeg on October 30, 2021, 08:57:22 pm
Also, Ayo doesn't dribble when he shoots free throws.  That's quite unusual.
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Post by: Deeg on October 30, 2021, 09:00:56 pm
I kinda think it was a mistake not using DJJ already.
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Post by: Deeg on October 30, 2021, 09:09:04 pm
Boy, Demar is a fun player to watch.  He's got so many tricks in his pocket.
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Post by: Deeg on October 30, 2021, 09:19:45 pm
Big three minutes here, 10-point lead and the ball.  Have to finish this one off.
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Post by: Deeg on October 30, 2021, 09:24:45 pm
Wow, two huge buckets from Vucevic here.
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Post by: Deeg on October 30, 2021, 09:31:45 pm
That feels like a pretty big win.
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Post by: Playtwo on October 31, 2021, 09:33:33 am
For some reason I wasn't able to get the game but I watched the highlights.  DeRosan appeared to have quite a game offensively.  Did Bradley play at all and if so how did he look?
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Post by: JeffH on October 31, 2021, 12:07:10 pm
Yes, Bradley played.  Looked pretty good to me.  Active.
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Post by: Playtwo on October 31, 2021, 01:06:03 pm
It would be huge if Bradley is able to backup Vucevic effectively against opposition bigs.
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Post by: Deeg on October 31, 2021, 04:43:32 pm
Bradley was excellent, Jones as well.  Led the team in +/-.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 01, 2021, 08:34:00 am
Very encouraging.  Even if Utah may have been looking ahead to their game against the Bucks.
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Post by: JR on November 01, 2021, 09:48:49 am
Sad day to be a Titans fan today...

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32525353/sources-tennessee-titans-rb-derrick-henry-suffered-potentially-season-ending-foot-injury
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Post by: Chris27 on November 01, 2021, 08:56:44 pm
The Bulls outscored Boston 39-11 in the 4th to win. Huge game for Derozan. Also got a a big game from Dosunmu off the bench.
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Post by: Deeg on November 02, 2021, 06:23:01 am
Jones is fantastic so far.  Great energy, phenomenal defense.  Ayo is definitely a keeper - you can just tell he's got the X-factor.  He'll eat your face for lunch and spit it back on you for dessert.

Ultimately, though, DeRozan with 37 on 20 shots is hard to top.  And 39-11 in the 4th against a pretty decent team on the road is impressive as hell.  They're definitely looking for real.
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Post by: Deeg on November 02, 2021, 07:11:31 am
ESPN Stats & Info
@ESPNStatsInfo
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2h
The Celtics led the Bulls 103-89 entering the 4th quarter last night and lost 128-114.

It's the 1st time in the shot-clock era (since 1954-55) that a team lost by 14+ points after leading by 14+ entering the 4th quarter.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 02, 2021, 09:53:12 am
Impressive.  For some reason the game didn't record for me.  Bang zoom.
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Post by: Deeg on November 02, 2021, 07:17:29 pm
Impressive.  For some reason the game didn't record for me.  Bang zoom.

Google “NBA replay” and you’ll find an alternative for when that happens.

Among the historical stats from that 4th quarter, perhaps the most amazing is that the Celtics has zero defensive rebounds.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 06, 2021, 07:05:45 pm
Blackhawks fire Colliton. What a mess that org has become.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 06, 2021, 09:03:59 pm
Bulls are unwatchable tonight.  Just pathetic.
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Post by: Deeg on November 07, 2021, 01:31:33 am
Bulls are unwatchable tonight.  Just pathetic.

Pretty harsh assessment.  Philly is one of the best teams in the league, and we were tied with 3 minutes left.  It's a good level check for the Bulls - they're good, but not as good as the elite.

Vooch is just killing the Bulls with his shooting.  And as much as I love Javonte Green's motor, I think you need to get more Jones Jr. on the floor - he's a difference-maker.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 07, 2021, 07:49:11 am
Not being as good as the elite is fine.  Not being as good as an elite team missing multiple rotation players is not.
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Post by: Robb on November 08, 2021, 02:02:22 am
Their 3 point shooting crashed back to earth the last few games as well. Vuc killed them though.  If he played up to his career standards they could have won both those games. 
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Post by: Chris27 on November 08, 2021, 09:20:29 pm
Great bounce-back game for the Bulls against the Nets. Really dominated the last quarter starting with a suffocating defensive effort from the bench. If the Bulls could bottle that and somehow get better from three they might be contenders sooner than later.
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Post by: Deeg on November 09, 2021, 03:48:12 am
Nets were on the second of a back-to-back, which helps, but that was a nice performance by the Bulls in a really physical game.  Vooch hitting those 4 shots in a row at the end might be the best part, because if he shoots at his career levels I think the Bulls are a very tough team to defend, and he's playing well apart from his shooting.

Also, Ayo is a force of nature.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 09, 2021, 07:50:21 am
Nice fourth quarter.  Vooch and Ayo were big.
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Post by: Robb on November 10, 2021, 05:59:00 am
Ayo is fun to watch.  You can see his confidence growing by the game. 
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Post by: Chris27 on November 10, 2021, 08:51:09 pm
Bulls up 15 after three against Dallas. Ball 7-8 from three. Caruso a huge spark in the third to extend the lead.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 10, 2021, 09:20:15 pm
Bulls win by 10 and outside of a rough shooting game for DeRozan played really well across the board.
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Post by: method on November 10, 2021, 10:28:46 pm
This was THE highlight play of the game.

https://mobile.twitter.com/StephNoh/status/1458634402553077765
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Post by: Deeg on November 11, 2021, 04:14:56 am
I actually didn't think they played that well - DeRozan can't be poaching so many shots when he's off and other guys are hot.  But they still won pretty easily against a pretty good team - even with a soft schedule Dallas was still 7-3.  Caruso was absolutely dynamite, and Vooch looked like his old self.

I don't blame Zach for getting that T after the dunk contest move.  He got absolutely clobbered the play before.
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Post by: Deeg on November 11, 2021, 04:20:44 am
Lavine-Ball-Caruso 60 points on 33 FGA.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 11, 2021, 09:16:07 am
It's been a blast so far rooting for the Bulls and the Warriors (I'll be pulling for the Bulls tomorrow).
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Post by: Robb on November 11, 2021, 01:49:36 pm
I love how much they share the ball.  Derozan is the line exception but they need him to get his points when he is on the court. 
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Post by: Playtwo on November 11, 2021, 02:05:22 pm
The Warriors love sharing the ball as well.  And they play with such joy and get such satisfaction out of not just winning but entertaining their audience.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 11, 2021, 02:07:24 pm
Vucevic tested positive for COVID and will miss some time.  They could still beat the Warriors without him but are likely to struggle against teams with more depth at the 5.
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Post by: Deeg on November 11, 2021, 04:29:42 pm
Even if they get lucky and no one else is infected, the timing couldn’t be worse.  Vooch was just finding his stride and the West Coast trip is a key to the whole season.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 11, 2021, 05:47:57 pm
?
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Post by: Deeg on November 12, 2021, 09:26:50 pm
Big test for the Bulls today - the Warriors have absolutely obliterated opponents this season.  I think where Vooch will really be missed is his passing, and in the pick and roll.  Bradley will set a screen but the defenders will just ignore him.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 12, 2021, 10:01:39 pm
Bulls had a 10-pt lead but they're getting out-hustled badly now.
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Post by: Deeg on November 12, 2021, 10:38:44 pm
Just not good enough to beat this team without Vooch.  Too much Curry, too much Kerr.  The offense really struggles against good defenses without Vucevic because we don't have enough shooters.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 12, 2021, 10:45:40 pm
A wake-up call game. And not that it matters, but the Warriors sure do get a lot of help from the refs.

I'm not sure Vucevic would be a plus. He's likely way too slow defensively in this matchup. This looks like the old Ball shooting tonight. He's improved from three but still only 41% overall this season.
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Post by: Deeg on November 12, 2021, 11:10:03 pm
"Only" 41%? ROFL


Vucevic would basically play a one-man zone against this team.  His impact would be on the other end, where his playmaking is hugely missed and he provides a shooter you have to be aware of even if he's struggling with the shot.  Spacing far better and Zach and DeRozan (esoecially Zach) get much better looks when he's out there.  We'd still probably lose (nobody has even played this team close in weeks) but it'd be less one-sided.
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Post by: Deeg on November 12, 2021, 11:17:05 pm
Why Billy is playing the starters so many minutes in this game I have no clue.
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Post by: Deeg on November 12, 2021, 11:20:58 pm
Man, Billy just won't give Marko a cameo.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 12, 2021, 11:48:28 pm
"Only" 41%? ROFL

41% overall.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 13, 2021, 08:15:11 am
No shame in losing to the Warriors on the road without Vuc.  But they need to step it up against the lesser teams out West.
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Post by: Deeg on November 13, 2021, 09:13:27 am
I’d happily take 2-3 on the trip.
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Post by: Deeg on November 15, 2021, 03:58:51 am
Anybody who criticizes the DeRosan signing can stick it.
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Post by: method on November 15, 2021, 06:59:28 am
Contract is still really high imo. But we have Ball and Caruso on great deals.
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Post by: Deeg on November 15, 2021, 07:54:37 am
He’s playing like a max player at the moment, so the contract doesn’t seem so high to me.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 15, 2021, 08:41:44 am
If it took "overpaying" to get him, I'm glad they overpaid!
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Post by: Deeg on November 16, 2021, 03:48:26 am
Contract is still really high imo.

Uh-huh.
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Post by: Deeg on November 16, 2021, 04:26:17 am
Lest anyone wonder, the Bulls have the 5th-toughest SOS in the NBA (and that's before the Lakers were factored in).  So 10-4 definitely doesn't look like a fluke.  They went into LA and flat-out pulverized both teams, neither of whom are pushovers (the Clippers were on a 7-game winning streak).
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Post by: Robb on November 16, 2021, 06:23:24 am
Fun fun team to watch.  Love the chemistry they already have developed. Donovan is an excellent coach as well.  This team looks legit.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 16, 2021, 08:37:32 am
Lonzo was on fire.  And another great game for DeMar.
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Post by: method on November 16, 2021, 11:43:33 am
Uh-huh.

Its good now, but his age the last year will likely be an issue. But we had to overpay to get him.
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Post by: CurtOne on November 16, 2021, 11:37:55 pm
I must be dyslexic.   Whenever there is news about the Washington Football Team, I read it as WTF.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 17, 2021, 11:25:22 pm
Bulls looked really good earlier this week but blew a 20-pt lead in Portland tonight. Still a work in progress.
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Post by: Deeg on November 18, 2021, 04:08:50 am
Portland 7-1 a home, with one of the best clutch scorers in the game.  A bad loss but you deal with it and move on.  Really sloppy third quarter with the ball cost them big-time.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 18, 2021, 08:35:34 am
Early foul trouble for DJJ really hurt too.
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Post by: Deeg on November 18, 2021, 04:02:58 pm
Early foul trouble for DJJ really hurt too.

When you consider the Bulls are doing this without Vooch, whose absence has clearly hurt, it's not a bad trip so far.  DJJ is definitely a keeper but Vucevic brings so much better flow to the offense.
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Post by: Robb on November 19, 2021, 01:20:45 pm
A 3-2 trip without Vuc would be incredible.
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Post by: Deeg on November 19, 2021, 06:17:39 pm
Possible we could dodge Jokic tonight (wrist).  If so kinda no excuse not to win this one, especially with the Nugs on the second of a back to back.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 19, 2021, 08:25:50 pm
Jokic not play, Denver still up 12 early.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 19, 2021, 08:32:47 pm
Bulls storm back to make it even after a quarter.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 19, 2021, 10:25:43 pm
Bulls survive a 4th quarter run by the Nuggets. The bench won this game with 31 points and 13 offensive rebounds.

On the downside, Coby White is 1-11 with 1 assist in 3 games since returning.
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Post by: Deeg on November 20, 2021, 02:31:12 am
Not only is this a legit good team, but they're incredibly fun to watch.  I'm not sure I've ever seen an NBA team run as much for as long as these guys do.  And DJJ, as well as he's played, I'd like to see him get even more run - like starting and 30 minutes a night.  If he's your 5th-best starter you're in pretty good shape.

3-2 on this trip without Vucevic is a great effort.  They desperately need that third scoring option - you can see it kill them at times, but they've won these last three just through sheer athleticism and hustle.  Closed tonight with the tallest guy on the floor at 6'6", and Green was everywhere while basically playing center at 6'3".  White has been really bad, but they're winning anyway - if he can get it going so much the better.  Just have to get past these loose stretches with bad offensive execution in the second half.


Also, those "Let's Go Bulls" chants were pretty awesome.  The Bulls have been a sleeping giant as far as national franchises go, and this team is very easy to love.  They may get Cub-like away support if they keep this going.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 20, 2021, 08:30:22 am
DJJ, Javonte, and Zach were awesome down the stretch.
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Post by: Deeg on November 20, 2021, 05:36:27 pm
Watching Caruso and Ball play defense for a full game is a crash course in NBA defense.  They make a huge impact on the game, like two lockdown cornerbacks in football.

I'm not knocking Lonzo - as he is now, he's a borderline all-star player.  Incredibly unselfish, and does so many things to help you win.  But of all the guys on our roster, I think he's the one with the most untapped upside.  He clearly has the touch and the shotmaking skills to be an impact scorer, but there are times (usually in the second half) where he disappears on offense for long stretches.  He's a very fine player but I think he has the ability to be a true star - hopefully Donovan (who should be the runaway COY if this keeps up) can get him there.
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Post by: Deeg on November 21, 2021, 07:04:01 pm
Trap game for the Bulls tonight.  First games after the West Coast swing always are, and Thibs is always sky high for revenge games.
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Post by: Deeg on November 21, 2021, 07:54:07 pm
Man, Ayo is the real deal.  The more he plays the more impressed I am - I think he's a potential starting-caliber player.
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Post by: Deeg on November 21, 2021, 09:13:54 pm
Three huge triples in a row for Coby.  People writing this kid off way too fast - the Bulls need a microwave off the bench, and he can be that guy.
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Post by: Deeg on November 21, 2021, 09:38:45 pm
That was a game I was pretty sure was going to slip away, but these are not the same Bulls.  Brutal run of games and they're 12-5 - legit.


Doubly impressive since it was 5-against-8 all night.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 22, 2021, 09:32:29 am
The officiating was pretty bad.  Particularly egregious was the non call on LaVine's breakaway early in the game.  That might have warranted a flagrant 1 but was not even called a common foul.  Nice all around effort by the Bulls in a very physical game.
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Post by: Deeg on November 22, 2021, 07:17:13 pm
Tough matchup for the Bulls here.  Back to back, no Caruso or Vooch, and the Pacers are big (and better than their record).
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Post by: Deeg on November 22, 2021, 07:34:56 pm
The Bulls are obviously gassed but how the hell is this team 7-11 with the players they have?
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Post by: Chris27 on November 22, 2021, 07:52:22 pm
Bulls forgot the game started 30 minutes ago.
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Post by: Deeg on November 22, 2021, 08:03:48 pm
Just one of those nights - we were due for one.  Put it behind you and move on.  I'm still amazed Indiana has this poor a record, though - they have a pretty damn good group of players.
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Post by: Deeg on November 22, 2021, 09:17:46 pm
On the plus side, Marko finally got into a game and scored his first point.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 24, 2021, 08:01:55 pm
Vucevich is back and the Bulls have a 9-pt lead over the 1-16 Rockets at halftime.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 24, 2021, 09:29:37 pm
Bulls get outscored by 14 in the second half and lose to the now 2-16 Rockets.
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Post by: Deeg on November 26, 2021, 06:48:39 pm
Man, the Bulls defense is unbelievable - 16-0 to start the quarter.  It's all energy with them - they have no margin for error, they have to be frenetic and fast or they're a mediocre team.  That's why I think you have to start Caruso - they just don't seem to get out of the gate unless he does.  He's laying serious bricks as a shooter but his energy and defense is God-tier.

White looks great, I have to say.  15 points on 6-7 shooting, and he's actually playing defense.  Makes a huge difference when he can bring this. 
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Post by: JeffH on November 26, 2021, 06:52:41 pm
Ball is a tremendous player.  Could have excelled in any era of NBA basketball.
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Post by: Deeg on November 26, 2021, 07:08:51 pm
Ball is a tremendous player.  Could have excelled in any era of NBA basketball.

He is, but his inability to score from anywhere but behind the arc is odd, because he's clearly a very good shooter.  He also disappears offensively in the second half almost every night.  As I've noted he's terrific as-is (clearly 1st-team all-defense) but has the potential to be a flat-out star.
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Post by: Deeg on November 26, 2021, 07:53:10 pm
In this offense White and Vooch can basically get all the open shots they want, it's just a question of converting them.

21 up after three with Miami tomorrow, I think you have to roll the dice and let the bench try and finish this off.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 27, 2021, 09:19:41 pm
Bulls lose their game with Miami after getting killed by bench players Max Struss and Gabe Vincent in the 4th quarter. Hard to explain.
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Post by: Deeg on November 28, 2021, 04:46:57 pm
The Heat are better than the Bulls. That and 23 turnovers is the explanation.

The Bulls don’t have enough guys who can hit volume threes, for starters.  Killed them against Philly and Miami (who do).  They’re going to have to figure out how to attack zone defenses, because they’ll keep seeing them until they do.  Maybe if Vooch is at his best that neutralizes a zone, but the way he is now, it just stymies Zach and especially DeRozan, and there haven’t been any answers.
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Post by: Deeg on November 30, 2021, 03:58:39 am
Pretty tough to beat the Bulls when Vooch plays like that.  His best game as a Bull, probably - hopefully he can keep it up.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 30, 2021, 10:41:42 am
Vooch was awesome and it was fun to see the Ball brothers go head to head.
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Post by: Deeg on November 30, 2021, 03:59:17 pm
Vooch was awesome and it was fun to see the Ball brothers go head to head.

I love Lonzo, and he was more efficient last night (and is definitely a better defender).  But the difference between the two is that Lamelo is a true PG in that he's actively involved on the offensive end every trip.  Lonzo disappears from the offense for long stretches, especially in the second half.  That may just be who he is, and if so he's still a terrific player.  But if he had some of his kid brother's assertiveness he'd be an all-star, because he was untapped talent.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 30, 2021, 05:12:50 pm
I noticed that Lonzo made a couple of 3's in a row and then (unlike most stars) did not aggressively try to play the hot hand.  It's fine to play smart, controlled basketball.  But sometimes a player of his ability needs to take center stage for as long as they are falling.
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Post by: Deeg on December 01, 2021, 03:51:03 pm
Sigh, Coby tested positive for COVID.  This is looking more and more like a lost season for him.
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Post by: Chris27 on December 02, 2021, 07:42:16 pm
The Bulls are one good power forward and a shooter away from being title contenders, imo.
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Post by: method on December 02, 2021, 07:51:10 pm
Really need a sharp shooter to kick out to would help spacing a ton. Lots of folks going to be eating crow on their projected wins for the Bulls.
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Post by: Chris27 on December 02, 2021, 08:16:58 pm
And as I say that the Bulls in the process of blowing yet another huge lead.
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Post by: method on December 02, 2021, 08:34:41 pm
21 point lead gone. tied at 97.
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Post by: Robb on December 02, 2021, 10:58:08 pm
Derozan just carried them at the end. 
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Post by: Deeg on December 03, 2021, 05:14:43 am
The Bulls have a habit of relaxing after they get big leads, which I hope is just indicative of their lack of experience as a winning team.  But still, that was one hell of an exciting game.  If you believe you need a big three to win a title I think the Bulls have one - 88 points on 55 FGA.

As much as I'd love more size, I think a sharpshooter is what the Bulls need more than anything.  They shot well from 3 tonight but they're next-to-last in 3-point attempts.  They need someone who can consistently punish defenses from deep, and I do think they need him before they're going to be a real title contender.  I wonder if Ray Allen has kept himself in shape...
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Post by: Robb on December 03, 2021, 07:02:58 am
Lonzo couldn't hit the broad side of a barn last night.  If he shoots like he has so far this season that game is won without near the drama.
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Post by: Robb on December 03, 2021, 07:04:47 am
But what an exciting team they are to watch!  That 37 point 1st quarter was a thing to behold. Caruso should have those hands insured by Lloyds of London. He reminds me of Gary Payton in his prime. 
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Post by: Playtwo on December 03, 2021, 10:16:20 am
Vooch to start, Zach takes over, DeRozan finishes.  A big win on the road against a tough, physical opponent,  I think Thibs made a big mistake in getting on the refs early.  It set a bad example for a team that was obsessed early with the officiating.  Don't blame the refs.  Focus on the job.
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Post by: Dave23 on December 03, 2021, 02:19:59 pm
Well, the Grizz game was a fun watch last night...

152 points last night without Ja...and 3 wins in a row without Ja...
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Post by: Deeg on December 03, 2021, 05:56:02 pm
Vooch to start, Zach takes over, DeRozan finishes.  A big win on the road against a tough, physical opponent,  I think Thibs made a big mistake in getting on the refs early.  It set a bad example for a team that was obsessed early with the officiating.  Don't blame the refs.  Focus on the job.

I don't think there's ever been a game where Thibs hasn't whined to the refs non-stop from the opening tap.  May as well ask a dog not to slobber.  And the fact is that the Knicks shot twice as many FTs as the Bulls until DeRozan's spate of them in the last two minutes.
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Post by: Deeg on December 03, 2021, 06:51:39 pm
Green now out on COVID protocols.  Hope this doesn't rip through the entire roster.

Caruso is Q for tomorrow (hamstring).  Should be a golden opportunity for the Bulls to take advantage of the aged Nets on a back to back but if both Caruso and Green are out, they'll be seriously depleted.
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Post by: Deeg on December 05, 2021, 01:57:36 am
Two trips, LA and NY - 4-0.

The Bulls may have been a bit lucky catching the Nets on two back to backs, but they beat them here without White, Caruso, and Green.  I knew Demar was a good player but honestly, I had no idea he was this good.  He's a legit superstar.  Zach, I knew - but DeRozan being on this level was unexpected.  And they've been really good for each other.

Also, Ayo is a player.  He's going to be seriously good.
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Post by: Playtwo on December 05, 2021, 08:42:20 am
Real good win last night.  I'm still hopeful that White will get healthy and become the shooter off the bench that they need to move towards elite status.
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Post by: Deeg on December 05, 2021, 03:40:17 pm
For me, White is more of a scorer than pure shooter.  The Bulls need more guys like Miami has - pure catch and shoot deep threats.
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Post by: Deeg on December 06, 2021, 05:10:19 pm
Now DeRozan out with COVID.  That Charlotte game is the gift that keeps on giving.  I’d assumed Jones starts for Caruso, but who else?  This would have been a big opportunity for White, but that’s a no go.  It’s Ayo I suppose.
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Post by: Deeg on December 06, 2021, 05:59:57 pm
Some talk now it could be a false positive (superstars seem to get those more often for some reason) but definitely out tonight.  Big minutes for Troy Brown a lock.
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Post by: Chris27 on December 06, 2021, 09:11:15 pm
The Bulls looked like getting blown out early but have controlled the game in the second half. Dosunmu might really be a player. Ball's stepped up in this one too.
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Post by: Playtwo on December 06, 2021, 11:55:18 pm
Some lovely assists from Ayo.
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Post by: Deeg on December 07, 2021, 04:02:38 am
Hard to remember another team as fun to watch as this one.  I always had Billy pegged in the "pretty good" category as coaches go, but based on the evidence so far this season maybe he's exceptional.  Not exactly easy getting past those Warrior juggernauts in the West.
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Post by: Deeg on December 09, 2021, 04:11:58 pm
Jones now on the protocols list too.  5 guys there, plus Caruso.  I might just forfeit tomorrow's game against Miami if it were possible (which it’s not of course) and hibernate till White, Green and Caruso are back.
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Post by: Dave23 on December 09, 2021, 09:18:43 pm
Grizz 108
Lakers 95

Should be 7 in a row without Ja (if not for last night’s joke of a game)…
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Post by: Deeg on December 11, 2021, 06:17:06 pm
So Ayo and Stanley Johnson (signed on COVID exemption) now in the protocols.  Shouldn't the league be postponing at this point?  How can you ask a team to play down 7 men, never mind the health and safety issue>
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Post by: Deeg on December 11, 2021, 07:37:56 pm
This is obviously not the real Bulls team, but the reason why the Heat are a legit contender and they're not is that they have so many guys who can hit threes.  Unless the Bulls add another shooter or two they're not a serious threat, as improved as they are.
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Post by: Deeg on December 11, 2021, 11:15:19 pm
I'm not sure what Billy is doing playing Ball and Lavine huge minutes in blowout losses but that shlt has to stop.

Vooch sucking is a serious problem.  He doesn't seem to be injured, he's not that old, and he's getting plenty of shots - there's no obvious reason why he can't hit the broad side of a barn.
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Post by: Deeg on December 12, 2021, 04:50:37 pm
It’s a total ficking joke if the NBA makes the Bulls play Tuesday. So presumably it will.
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Post by: method on December 12, 2021, 06:49:26 pm
LaVine and Brown are now down as well. NBA's position is that the Bulls have been granted extra roster spots to sign players, they are not going to PPD any games.
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Post by: Deeg on December 12, 2021, 07:28:16 pm
It’s indicative of just how many asymptomatic positive people are walking around.  That’s the impact of vaccines.
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Post by: Deeg on December 13, 2021, 04:42:12 pm
NBA finally cuts the Bulls a break after effectively two forfeits when Alize becomes case #10.  Theoretically should have White, Green and DeRozan back for the Lakers.
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Post by: Deeg on December 21, 2021, 04:00:30 am
I'm not sure what Billy's deal is playing the stars (especially Ball) big minutes in blowouts, but it really needs to stop.  Apart from that not much wrong tonight, a total domination.  Maybe the best bit were the "MVP" chants with Marko on the line.  When you see guys like Cook, McKinnie and Dotson come in and deliver excellent performances, you have to think the coach is doing something right.

Lonzo is a funny player.  Hard to remember another guy where you're so impressed with how good he is and simultaneously musing on how much better he could be.  He's a great all-around player who does so many things to help you win, but it just seems like he has a tremendous offensive skillset he almost never uses.
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Post by: Robb on December 21, 2021, 08:37:11 am
Lonzo is a great set shooter but anything on the move, either off the dribble or not is pretty bad. To me that is the next step for him offensively.
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Post by: Playtwo on December 21, 2021, 09:59:03 am
He's an excellent facilitator and can play lock down defense when he's focused.  I don't know that the Bulls need him to do much more offensively than has been doing- good 3-pt shooting, moving the ball, and the occasional move to the basket.  Maybe he could do a bit more penetrating.
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Post by: Deeg on December 21, 2021, 03:41:53 pm
He has great moves around the basket and can finish with either hand, actually.  He just rarely shoots from inside the 3-point line and when he drives frequently bypasses layups for kickouts.
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Post by: JeffH on December 21, 2021, 06:34:09 pm
Maybe he could do a bit more penetrating.

Couldn't we all?
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Post by: Deeg on December 21, 2021, 08:53:01 pm
Seems like kind of a no-brainer to keep McKinnie over Thomas.
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Post by: Playtwo on December 22, 2021, 08:07:54 am
No doubt.  Not sure why McKinnie has struggled to make any impact in the NBA.  He was pretty useful when he was with the Warriors.
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Post by: Deeg on December 22, 2021, 03:48:38 pm
No doubt.  Not sure why McKinnie has struggled to make any impact in the NBA.  He was pretty useful when he was with the Warriors.

He's improved quite a bit on his 3-point shooting, if his G-League numbers are to be believed.  He's too old to be a prospect but guys like Diniwiddie (who we had and was dropped by GarPax) sometimes never make an impact until they get a real chance.
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Post by: method on December 26, 2021, 10:22:58 pm
Tonight’s bulls game was a delight. DeRozan is a bucket.
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Post by: Deeg on December 27, 2021, 05:10:14 am
Zach was the star tonight.
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Post by: Deeg on December 27, 2021, 07:34:47 pm
44 points on 27 FGA for Zach and DeRo in the first half, 6-7 combined on 3s, 10 assists, 1 TO.  Is there a better duo in the NBA?

Atlanta is certainly an entertaining watch.  Young is unbelievably fast and skilled and they shoot from anywhere.  And play no defense.

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Post by: JeffH on December 27, 2021, 08:00:15 pm
Lots of good basketball instincts on this Bulls team.
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Post by: JeffH on December 27, 2021, 08:34:14 pm
Good Vuc is...good.
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Post by: Deeg on December 27, 2021, 08:51:08 pm
So after the big two dominated the first half, Vooch and Coby had 32 in the second.  35 and 10 assists for Demar, 30 and 9 for Zach, 24-17-6 for Vucevic.  89 points on 60 shots combined, 11-18 on 3s.  Atlanta isn't that good and depleted themselves, but that's a pretty good performance missing several key guys.
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Post by: Deeg on December 28, 2021, 07:07:08 pm
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Matt Williams: In 1st half tonight: Zach LaVine: 23 points, 5 assists DeMar DeRozan: 21 points, 5 assists They are the first pair of teammates to each have 20 points and 5 assists in a half over the last 25 seasons. 23 hours ago – via Twitter StatsWilliams
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Post by: Playtwo on December 28, 2021, 07:16:09 pm
Pretty nice team effort yesterday.
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Post by: Deeg on December 28, 2021, 07:53:22 pm
When everyone is back this is going to be one of the deepest teams in the NBA.  They still need another high% volume three shooter and another big, ideally, but not many teams would be able to go 13-14 deep with solid contributors like we will.
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Post by: Robb on December 29, 2021, 07:12:21 am
A rebounding, shot blocking PF is they're biggest hole. 
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Post by: Deeg on December 29, 2021, 08:54:51 am
Nah.  They could use another big (maybe Tristan Thompson) as insurance, and to be a physical presence while Vooch is on the bench (Jones is a hell of a shot blocker anyway).  But the real issue is lack of volume three-point shooters - they're among the trailers in the league in attempts.  Miami and NJ have a huge advantage over them in that area.
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Post by: Playtwo on December 29, 2021, 09:59:58 am
Hopefully Coby and Thomas can provide an adequate amount of complementary 3-point shooting.  I'm more worried about their poor rebounding.  McKinnie is supposed to be a really good rebounder- maybe he needs more minutes when he returns.
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Post by: Deeg on December 29, 2021, 06:31:57 pm
Hopefully Coby and Thomas can provide an adequate amount of complementary 3-point shooting.  I'm more worried about their poor rebounding.  McKinnie is supposed to be a really good rebounder- maybe he needs more minutes when he returns.

They're only being outrebounded by about 1 per game.  I think that's a secondary concern for me.  Shooting is what's going to make or break them come playoff time.  White is career mid-30s and Thomas is never going to see the floor outside a blowout when everyone is healthy, especially in postseason.  And he'll be the one to get cut if they add another body anyway.
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Post by: Deeg on December 29, 2021, 07:34:35 pm
38-36 after 1, LOL.  Ball and Caruso's absence is really felt on the defensive end.
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Post by: Deeg on December 29, 2021, 07:41:50 pm
Troy Brown has been terrific.
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Post by: Deeg on December 29, 2021, 07:57:45 pm
Bulls shooting 69% and have 21 assists (8 from Coby) in 21 minutes.  Atlanta is a sieve but damn, this team is fun to watch.
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Post by: Deeg on December 29, 2021, 08:06:27 pm
Do yourself a solid and look at the box score at halftime - that may have been the best team offensive half I've ever seen in the NBA.  74 points, 24 assists, 71.4% shooting.  4 players with 4 or more assists.  Vooch 4-5 shooting with 12 boards.  Green (also perfect Monday), Cook, Brown and Ayo a combined 12-12 from the field.
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Post by: Chris27 on December 29, 2021, 08:13:32 pm
Jeez, a 22-1 run to end the half? Hope the FO can find a 4 because this team is a contender.
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Post by: Deeg on December 29, 2021, 08:25:35 pm
Jeez, a 22-1 run to end the half? Hope the FO can find a 4 because this team is a contender.

21 points on 9 FGA for Zach, ROFL.

I think between Jones, Green, and Cook they don't need a starting-caliber 4, per se.  They're going to play small most of the time anyway.  What they need is a big-time shooter.
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Post by: Chris27 on December 29, 2021, 08:28:57 pm
But whose minutes does a shooter get? Once Caruso and Ball are healthy they're going to get the bulk in the backcourt.
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Post by: Deeg on December 29, 2021, 08:38:26 pm
Look at the way Miami plays.  They have like 6 guys who can kill you from deep and they keep shuttling them in and out.  If they find the right guy he can get a lot of minutes at the four, which would be harsh on Green and Jones but that's basketball.
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Post by: Deeg on December 29, 2021, 08:55:23 pm
14 and 12 assists for Coby.  This is about as good a PG performance as he's had.
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Post by: Deeg on December 29, 2021, 09:03:42 pm
They're pretty good.
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Post by: Deeg on December 29, 2021, 09:11:20 pm
Fleming ascribing to the Donovan school of leaving starters in way too long in blowouts.
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Post by: method on December 31, 2021, 03:47:00 pm
What is going on with Patrick Williams? Is there a chance he's back for the play offs?
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Post by: Playtwo on December 31, 2021, 04:24:49 pm
Good example today of the need the Bulls have for better defensive rebounding.  The Pacers are killing them with 2nd chance points.
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Post by: Chris27 on December 31, 2021, 04:32:22 pm
Bulls get away with robbery but we'll take it.
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Post by: Deeg on December 31, 2021, 07:56:33 pm
I think we did everything possible not to win that game, but good teams get lucky sometimes too.  I don't know whether Indiana is just a tough matchup or what, but they always look 1000% better than their record against the Bulls.

Why are the Bulls so unwilling to challenge calls?  That should have been their ball but Fleming declined to challenge.  Then he didn't use a timeout and we almost didn't get off a shot - obviously a great make by DeRo but he got very lucky.
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Post by: Playtwo on December 31, 2021, 08:05:15 pm
Incredible make by DeRozan, but Coby is the main reason they won.
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Post by: Deeg on December 31, 2021, 08:12:23 pm
Would have liked to see him get more than 11 shots, since he had the hot hand and the big three were ice cold.
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Post by: Robb on January 01, 2022, 02:36:51 pm
That was quite a shot by Demar. Reminded me of Jordan there. 
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Post by: Robb on January 01, 2022, 02:39:49 pm
Indiana and NY earlier this year showed the way to slow the Bulls is to get up into them and push them around.  If Indiana had more shooting they would be a dangerous team. 
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Post by: Playtwo on January 01, 2022, 02:51:25 pm
MJ won many games with last second baskets, but I don't recall offhand any of them being 3's.
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Post by: Bennett on January 01, 2022, 05:44:03 pm
Rose Bowl

Utah 35
Ohio State 21

And there is still more than 6 minutes left in the first half.

Tune in.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 01, 2022, 06:37:34 pm
Now Green's hurt for the Bulls. Not off to a good start tonight playing for the 5th time in 7 days.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 01, 2022, 07:45:29 pm
The Bulls are a really bad defensive team without Ball and Caruso.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 01, 2022, 08:42:36 pm
I think we can safely say DeRozan is the team's MVP.
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Post by: Deeg on January 02, 2022, 12:43:28 am
DeRidiculous
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Post by: Deeg on January 02, 2022, 12:51:15 am
Basketball Reference
@bball_ref
DeMar DeRozan is the first player in NBA history to hit a game-winning buzzer-beater in back-to-back days!
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Post by: Deeg on January 02, 2022, 06:49:54 pm
Kind of lost (as everything would be) in D-Bo's insane heroics is that Coby has had a few very strong games in a row.  My feeling all along is that he was the offensive firepower the bench needed, but he seems so much better when he's heavily involved from the beginning - you wonder if keeping him in the starting 5 and using Green off the bench is worth considering.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 03, 2022, 07:37:00 pm
Ball returns tonight and the Bulls play a dismal first quarter.
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Post by: Playtwo on January 03, 2022, 09:39:49 pm
I guess it's a good sign when a team plays like it is trying to lose but is unable to.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 03, 2022, 09:45:51 pm
That was ugly, but avoiding the loss is big. Unfortunately, Green is out up to month now and Cook who played really well off the bench recently has a bad sprain. Maybe Caruso will be back by the weekend.
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Post by: Deeg on January 04, 2022, 03:40:31 am
White has been superb this last run of games.  Even looking much better on defense.
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Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2022, 07:28:15 pm
Lonzo never has the same hairstyle two games in a row.
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Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2022, 07:37:22 pm
Don't trade Coby.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2022, 08:04:11 pm
Even with Ball back the Bulls' defense is still poor. Maybe Caruso is the DPOY.
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Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2022, 08:08:34 pm
I guess if 8 guys are in double-figures at halftime it's a high scoring game.

I don't think the Bulls D has been too bad here, and Ball has certainly been good (8 team steals, too).  The Wizards have some guys who can really score.
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Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2022, 08:50:34 pm
Bulls bench 7-7 from 3 (Coby 4-4) and 15-17 overall.
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Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2022, 09:13:20 pm
Coby and Ayo have been unbelievable tonight.  39 points on 14-16 shooting, 7-7- from 3.  Bench has 52 on 20-23(!!!) shooting.
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Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2022, 09:16:28 pm
This really is a tremendous offensive team.  It was a close game and the Wizards didn't give much - they just had a lull and the Bulls just kept on scoring.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2022, 09:22:26 pm
Stats were identical across the board except for 3-pt shooting.
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Post by: Playtwo on January 07, 2022, 09:35:26 pm
Bulls really hit the offensive boards in the first half.  And Coby and Ayo (and Lonzo) were awesome.
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Post by: Playtwo on January 07, 2022, 10:14:53 pm
Between Coby and Ayo, they had 39 points on 17 shots.  Wow!
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Post by: Robb on January 07, 2022, 11:48:56 pm
Very nice win tonight.  They took the Wizard's best shot and pulled away late. 
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Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2022, 11:55:46 pm
It's encouraging that they're still winning even with DeRozan reverting to the mean shooting-wise.  In the end I suspect Zach will lead the team in scoring.

The trade deadline is going to be very interesting.  2.5 games up in the East with obvious great chemistry.  But can they deal with star-laden New Jersey or Milwaukee over 7 games?  The temptation is going to huge to trade Williams and/or White - not to mention the Portland pick - but I wouldn't do it for less than a clear starter at the 4.  More likely I think is some fringe additions like Tristan Thompson on a buyout or somebody like Muscala or Favors from OKC.  I'd love another volume 3-shooter but I don't see that guy out there on the cheap.  Muscala at least is a good 3-point shooter.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 09, 2022, 08:23:26 pm
Bulls' win streak ends in Dallas. They were up 12 at one point but it's been all Dallas since. First of 5 games in 7 days so could be a rough week.
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Post by: Deeg on January 09, 2022, 08:28:08 pm
Vucevic has laid some serious bricks tonight.
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Post by: Dave23 on January 10, 2022, 07:49:11 am
Grizz won their 9th in a row, trouncing the whiny Lakers on their home court.

2nd youngest team in the league, and most exciting…
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Post by: Playtwo on January 10, 2022, 08:44:35 am
The Grizzlies are good, but I would put the Warriors and Bulls as at least as exciting if not more so.
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Post by: Deeg on January 10, 2022, 03:42:52 pm
That two-handed block by Morant where he hit his face on the backboard was something else.
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Post by: Dave23 on January 10, 2022, 03:53:18 pm
Someone said that he treats the floor as if it’s his trampoline. I thought that was pretty accurate.
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Post by: Dave23 on January 10, 2022, 03:53:57 pm
https://twitter.com/magicjohnson/status/1480598440300068864?s=21
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Post by: Dave23 on January 10, 2022, 03:55:32 pm
Between him and Bane, I’m not trading our backcourt for anyones…
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Post by: Deeg on January 10, 2022, 04:09:22 pm
If you say so, Mr. Wayne.
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Post by: Playtwo on January 10, 2022, 05:55:22 pm
Should be an interesting game tomorrow night.
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Post by: JeffH on January 11, 2022, 07:28:44 pm
Bulls half-assing their way through the first quarter against Detroit.
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Post by: JeffH on January 11, 2022, 08:04:02 pm
They've rallied.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 11, 2022, 08:47:19 pm
Bulls start the third on a 17-0 run, now 36-11 for the quarter.

Detroit's awful but great to see the Bulls play like an elite team should. Got that big game against Brooklyn tomorrow. Let's see if they rest the starters.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 11, 2022, 08:51:10 pm
Vucevich outscored the Pistons 17-14 in the third.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 11, 2022, 09:19:52 pm
Bulls win by 46.
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Post by: Dihard on January 11, 2022, 09:41:46 pm
Wow, Bulls. 8 players in double digits.
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Post by: Playtwo on January 12, 2022, 07:30:09 am
Crazy scheduling for the game tonight vs the Nets.  Starts at 10 pm Eastern time.
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Post by: Deeg on January 12, 2022, 07:36:31 am
Late national TV game.
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Post by: JR on January 12, 2022, 09:26:35 am
Grizz won their 9th in a row, trouncing the whiny Lakers on their home court.

2nd youngest team in the league, and most exciting…

Tennessee pro sports teams are doing great this year.  The Predators have been absolutely on fire as well since the start of December and had a big overtime win against Colorado last night.

And that's on top of the Titans somehow managing to get the top seed in the AFC without Derrick Henry. 
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Post by: Chris27 on January 12, 2022, 09:41:22 pm
Bulls down another player and playing 5 against 8 tonight.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 12, 2022, 09:55:40 pm
If Harden goes into the HOF they should have a generic ref go in with him.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 12, 2022, 10:53:44 pm
Bulls look like they've been exposed tonight.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 12, 2022, 11:08:16 pm
Bulls were tied, then were outscored by 35 points over a 12-minute span. That's hard to accomplish.
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Post by: Deeg on January 13, 2022, 03:40:22 am
DJJ is more valuable to the Bulls than he gets credit for.  If that injury was as bad as it looked he's going to be a major loss.
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Post by: Deeg on January 13, 2022, 05:08:57 pm
4-6 weeks on Jones, no structural damage.  That hurts but it could have been a lot worse.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 13, 2022, 09:50:50 pm
The Nets "rest" Durant and Mills tonight and they get blown out at home by.....the Thunder.
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Post by: Deeg on January 13, 2022, 10:23:10 pm
Billy’s odds of coaching the ASG go up.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 14, 2022, 06:58:51 pm
Bulls picking up where they left off against Brooklyn.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 14, 2022, 07:12:31 pm
Now Lavine is hurt.

No Thompson or Green and 2 points for Curry and still GS puts up 37 in the 1st.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 14, 2022, 07:14:52 pm
GS was down 39 at halftime yesterday in Milwaukee.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 14, 2022, 07:27:17 pm
Bulls have been outscored by 44 points over the last 40 minutes played.
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Post by: JeffH on January 14, 2022, 07:42:23 pm
Golden State is pissing me off.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 14, 2022, 07:43:24 pm
The Bulls defend like the French did against Germany.
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Post by: Deeg on January 14, 2022, 07:55:54 pm
Reality check.

Lavine going out is a big blow, but hard to think we wouldn’t still be in trouble against this team.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 14, 2022, 09:43:20 pm
GS had 39 assists and 7 turnovers. And that's without Green and Thompson. Also missing Wiseman. I'm jealous.
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Post by: Deeg on January 14, 2022, 11:35:33 pm
And we were without Jones, Lavine, Caruso and Green.  And they were 20-over without Klay.  It was a bad game, that's all there is to it.

It's a deep reach for a positive, but Marko actually looked good in garbage time - first time he's really looked like he believed he should be on the floor in the NBA.  6'11" with legit skills isn't all that common - if he beefs up he could be a factor next season.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 15, 2022, 04:04:18 am
Yes, both teams were missing players. The Bulls nice complementary players and Lavine, the Warriors two probable HOFers and one big-time, young talent.

I think getting outscored by 65 points at home (and the scores flattered the Bulls) over two nights is alarming even with players out.
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Post by: Deeg on January 15, 2022, 04:34:10 am
I don't know if the Nets score flattered the Bulls, since they played them even for 2.5 quarters.  But it doesn't really matter - those were very bad losses.  And beating the Nets twice were very good wins.  The team is still way ahead of where anyone could have predicted and panicking at this point would be rather silly.  Those 27 wins were not mirages - they came against statistically one of the tougher SOS in the league.

Main thing now, obviously, is Lavine.  If he's out an extended length of time all bets are off.  But irrespective of Lavine the Bulls problem is that their injuries have been concentrated at the same position, and it was already a vulnerable one.  The Bulls are small anyway, and they've lost all the guys who can credibly play the 4 and offer tough, physical defense.  And in Caruso they've lost their best defensive player (and maybe the league's best) - a guy who can defend any position and has a positive effect on whatever unit he's on the floor with.  That was always going to catch up to them sooner or later.
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Post by: Playtwo on January 15, 2022, 11:58:49 am
I was so looking forward to the Bulls-Warriors game.  What a nightmare.
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Post by: Deeg on January 15, 2022, 05:39:11 pm
Lavine dodged a bullet and is OK but not going to play, and Ball also out with knee soreness.  Might just start Marko and Dotson and consider this a day off.
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Post by: Playtwo on January 15, 2022, 05:40:49 pm
Likely another one-sided loss tonight.
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Post by: Deeg on January 15, 2022, 08:50:26 pm
Bulls have done a good job hanging around for a half with DeRozan barely scoring.
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Post by: Deeg on January 15, 2022, 09:13:46 pm
Real fight for three quarters, Vooch looking like Orlando Vooch.

Ayo keeps raising the bar for what his upside looks like.  He might just have a chance to be all-star caliber.
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Post by: Playtwo on January 15, 2022, 09:16:26 pm
The Bulls staying close might be more a statement about the Celtics than about the Bulls.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 15, 2022, 09:23:46 pm
Ayo's been incredible. Man, this would be some steal.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 15, 2022, 09:44:53 pm
Historians will one day wonder why Malcom Hill is taking shots with the Bulls up two in the last minute.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 15, 2022, 09:49:01 pm
All that only to **** the game away.
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Post by: Dave23 on January 17, 2022, 07:50:21 pm
Todays game would have been more fun with both teams at full strength…
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Post by: CurtOne on January 17, 2022, 10:38:09 pm
Did any tv guy point out that tonight's football game was between the two teams St. Louis couldn't keep in town?
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Post by: Bennett on January 17, 2022, 11:09:32 pm
Did any tv guy point out that tonight's football game was between the two teams St. Louis couldn't keep in town?
The Cardinals also used to play in Chicago.
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Post by: CurtOne on January 18, 2022, 09:44:03 am
And the Rams in Cleveland.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 19, 2022, 07:29:13 pm
Lonzo Ball's knee not responding to treatment. He and Lavine both out for the foreseeable future.
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Post by: JeffH on January 19, 2022, 07:56:46 pm
Opportunity for Ayo to become great.
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Post by: Dihard on January 19, 2022, 08:02:24 pm
Lonzo Ball's knee not responding to treatment. He and Lavine both out for the foreseeable future.
Oof. Any projections or predictions on what “foreseeable future” means?
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Post by: Chris27 on January 19, 2022, 08:20:19 pm
Oof. Any projections or predictions on what “foreseeable future” means?

All that's known is neither are going with the team on their upcoming 3-game road trip.
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Post by: Dihard on January 19, 2022, 09:22:06 pm
All that's known is neither are going with the team on their upcoming 3-game road trip.
Thanks, Chris. Hopefully the caliber of opponents will still allow for a couple of wins on the road. (The schedule the next couple weeks is pretty favorable, but a week into February things get dicier.)

Nice short-handed win tonight to stop the skid.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 19, 2022, 09:38:31 pm
Gosh I enjoy watching Dosunmu play. Bulls were really good tonight. Caruso is a huge addition. And White's improved drastically the last month.
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Post by: Deeg on January 20, 2022, 04:51:59 am
What a difference Caruso makes, +18 in 23 minutes even shooting 2-8.  His intensity is off the charts and he completely transforms the mentality of the team.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 20, 2022, 10:48:57 am
Lonzo Ball has a "small meniscus tear" in his knee. If he has surgery, it's 4-6 weeks recovery time.
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Post by: Playtwo on January 20, 2022, 11:41:07 am
Could have been worse.
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Post by: Playtwo on January 20, 2022, 01:21:14 pm
Ball out for 2 months or so.  Having arthroscopic surgery.
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Post by: Deeg on January 20, 2022, 03:40:15 pm
Big blow.  Ayo really gets his chance to shine now.  Maybe Dotson gets re-signed?
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Post by: Deeg on January 21, 2022, 07:27:31 pm
Bulls are probably going to get torched today, but it's amazing how many Bulls fan there are considering Milwaukee is the defending NBA champs.
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Post by: Deeg on January 21, 2022, 07:45:51 pm
All the guys you'd normally try on Giannis are out.  Not that anybody can really guard him, but that's tough.
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Post by: Deeg on January 21, 2022, 09:59:25 pm
Nice effort by the Bulls tonight in tough circumstances.  But how can no one even get in that b1tch Grayson Allen’s face after that hatchet job on Caruso?  Can you imagine that happening with Noah or Rodman on the roster?
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Post by: Playtwo on January 22, 2022, 07:41:17 am
Clear flagrant 2.  Not sure what Van Gundy was talking about.
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Post by: Deeg on January 22, 2022, 08:00:31 am
Lack of response to that was soft.

Allen is a thug and a punk, with a long history of this kind of thing dating back to Duke.  Donovan laid into him after the game (out of character for him), though that doesn't make up for the players not responding.  The NBA really needs to make an example of this guy.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 22, 2022, 03:17:47 pm
Caruso has a broken wrist. Surgery, out 6-8 weeks minimum.
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Post by: Dihard on January 22, 2022, 03:57:33 pm
It’d be amazing to see this team healthy. Unfortunately, that may never happen.

I really hope Zach can return soon. If we can just play respectably for the next two months, we could be hella dangerous in the playoffs if/after we get everyone back.
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Post by: Deeg on January 22, 2022, 06:02:50 pm
Caruso has a broken wrist. Surgery, out 6-8 weeks minimum.

Grayson Allen back on the floor tomorrow.
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Post by: Deeg on January 22, 2022, 06:05:15 pm
It’d be amazing to see this team healthy. Unfortunately, that may never happen.

I really hope Zach can return soon. If we can just play respectably for the next two months, we could be hella dangerous in the playoffs if/after we get everyone back.

Unfortunately I think injuries have doomed us for this season.  We were a longshot to be a real contender anyway, and with so little time for guys to get healthy and back in the groove playing together, it's too big an ask.  Should make the playoffs, might win a series, but I wouldn't mortgage any part of the future for a win-now piece.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 23, 2022, 03:54:09 pm
Grayson Allen received a one-game suspension.

That'll teach him.
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Post by: Deeg on January 23, 2022, 04:44:10 pm
F*ck Grayson Allen and f*ck the NBA.

Who goes to the bench when Lavine comes back, Coby or Ayo?  Given the absence of your two best defensive wings i think you need to leave Dusunmu in the starting lineup and put White in the 6th man role he was originally ticketed for.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 23, 2022, 06:04:22 pm
The Bulls are down 16 to the worst team in the league.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 23, 2022, 07:37:22 pm
Bulls lose by 19 to the 8-39 Magic. Their starting backcourt had zero assists.
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Post by: Playtwo on January 23, 2022, 08:00:28 pm
It requires a lot of energy and belief in your team to play lockdown defense on a consistent basis.  I worry about whether the depleted Bulls will be able to regain their defensive intensity with such a depleted roster and the grind of the long NBA season.  The injuries around the league severely hurt the quality of the NBA product, and allowing goons to knock players out of action for weeks at a time doesn't help.  The Bulls were so much fun to watch when relatively healthy, but not anymore.  Maybe the return of LaVine will give them a lift.
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Post by: Deeg on January 24, 2022, 03:48:55 pm
Not many positives, but Vucevic may not play tonight so there may be hope.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 24, 2022, 08:16:47 pm
DeRozan's not playing. Lavine and Green are back. Huge first half for Dosunmu.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 24, 2022, 09:18:58 pm
The Bulls are trying very hard to blow a 27-pt lead to a team possibly worse than Orlando.
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Post by: Dihard on January 24, 2022, 09:22:19 pm
Oof. Really rough shooting night for Coby. Gotta hang on here.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 24, 2022, 09:31:44 pm
Bulls win by 1 after being up 27 halfway though the 3rd. 
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Post by: Deeg on January 25, 2022, 03:09:47 am
That was Vooch's best game of the year, and they ignored him down the stretch when they had nothing going on offense.  An epic collapse but a win is a win, I guess.  Green is of major importance with Ball and Caruso out, and Ayo just seems to be growing into a potential star.
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Post by: Playtwo on January 25, 2022, 11:37:55 pm
Derrick Jones, Jr. out 6-8 weeks with a fractured finger on his right hand.  Unreal.
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Post by: Deeg on January 26, 2022, 01:13:04 am
Derrick Jones, Jr. out 6-8 weeks with a fractured finger on his right hand.  Unreal.

Wasn't he already out with a knee injury?
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Post by: Playtwo on January 26, 2022, 08:30:05 am
Yes.  They thought he would be back in a few weeks but he'll now be out much longer.
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Post by: Deeg on January 26, 2022, 08:12:25 pm
That was what the Bulls used to look like before it all went away.  Big 3 19-27 from the field with 45 points and 14 assists.  Vooch 10-10-6, 5-6 from the field.  22 assists and 5 TOs, outrebounding Toronto 25-14.
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Post by: Deeg on January 26, 2022, 08:55:06 pm
Amazing to think Javonte would become such an important player for this team, but he really is.  He makes a huge difference, especially with the other defensive stoppers out.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 26, 2022, 09:06:10 pm
They've just about blown a 19-pt lead two days after nearly giving away 38. And the opposition is...not good.
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Post by: Deeg on January 26, 2022, 09:08:16 pm
They've just about blown a 17-pt lead two days after nearly giving away 38. And the opposition is...not good.

Toronto is pretty darn good, actually.  They're over .500 and they've had as many Covinjury problems as the Bulls.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 26, 2022, 09:12:20 pm
Toronto is pretty darn good, actually.  They're over .500 and they've had as many Covinjury problems as the Bulls.

Well they've made Gary Trent look like a HOF'er. And VanFleet's out.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 26, 2022, 09:26:49 pm
Bulls will survive after Trent got kicked out on a non-call and then Toronto missed two FT's. Whatever season Vucevic's had, they don't win either tonight or Monday without him.
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Post by: Deeg on January 26, 2022, 09:29:13 pm
A good tough win against a good team.  Not pretty, but solid defense down the stretch.

Vooch has stepped it up.  They need to utilize him in the post more, especially in the 4th when the offense is drying up.
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Post by: Playtwo on January 27, 2022, 08:04:33 am
Blowing big leads is concerning, but it happens to every team.  Hanging on for the W is a positive.
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Post by: Deeg on January 28, 2022, 07:57:13 pm
It has to be a priority to use Vooch in the post.  He's so good down there, and it opens up the rest of the offense in a big way.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 28, 2022, 08:19:17 pm
Without Ball and Caruso the Bulls' defense resembles Swiss cheese.
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Post by: Deeg on January 28, 2022, 08:31:42 pm
And their offense resembles a Swiss watch.
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Post by: Deeg on January 28, 2022, 09:01:04 pm
The defense is a major problem, no question about it.

It's also irritating that they refuse to go back to Vucevic in the post when SA has no one that can guard him.
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Post by: Deeg on January 28, 2022, 09:57:26 pm
Pop just gave the rest of the NBA the template for how to destroy the Bulls defensively on pick and rolls.
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Post by: CurtOne on January 30, 2022, 01:01:00 pm
Odd that the 49ers are playing late in the season and Dusty isn't around.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 30, 2022, 03:38:39 pm
The Bulls are shooting 62% at the half, are 8-18 from three, 7-7 from the foul line, and have 21 assists to 2 turnovers. And only lead by 8 over Portland because they are getting smoked from three on defense.
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Post by: Chris27 on January 30, 2022, 04:47:21 pm
Bulls put up 130 and win going away. 36 assists to 7 turnovers.
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Post by: Deeg on February 02, 2022, 04:58:14 am
Ayo got some Jimmy Butler in him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on February 02, 2022, 11:40:36 am
Most of us are familiar with the Washington Generals basketball team.  Now the Washington football team will be known as the Commanders.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dihard on February 02, 2022, 05:48:55 pm
Most of us are familiar with the Washington Generals basketball team.  Now the Washington football team will be known as the Commanders.
As Kornheiser pointed out on PTI today, sports nicknames inevitably get shortened. Not the best choice, Washington. (What else is new…)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 02, 2022, 08:16:58 pm
If you had to put pick the worst owners of a Chicago based team who would you pick?

Rocky Wirtz?
McCaskey’s?
Ricketts?
Is Reisndorf even in the discussion? 

I think that would be my list.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 02, 2022, 08:48:18 pm
Two of them were considered godsends for years.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 02, 2022, 09:15:49 pm
Things change. I think the funny thing about Rocky’s meltdown is his son tried to save him and Rocky completely just shut him down.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 02, 2022, 09:38:13 pm
I don’t understand the buzz connecting the Bulls to Dennis Schroeder, unless they trade Coby for a big. They have plenty of guards already, and it’s not like the Menace is some kind of defensive stopper.

Milsap makes sense if it can be done on the cheap, though I don’t know why Brooklyn would want to help us out.  He may be done, but he was good last season and might have a bit left in the tank.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 03, 2022, 08:49:45 pm
This game in Toronto shows how much the Bulls need someone who can rebound. God almighty.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 03, 2022, 09:06:31 pm
Bulls were 0.7 seconds away from a win, lost in OT because of possessions. Toronto had 22 offensive rebounds and 26 more shots.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 03, 2022, 10:34:33 pm
Ayo looked like a rookie at the end.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 04, 2022, 03:48:01 pm
Kobe and LaVine doubtful for tonight's game.  You finally put together a roster capable of winning and can't field a healthy team.  Sad.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 04, 2022, 06:26:37 pm
Bulls are catching a huge (literally) break with Turner and Sabonis out.  Even shorthanded they should win this - Indy is playing a 6'-5" guy on Vooch.  Just feed him all night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 04, 2022, 06:50:46 pm
Any trip that doesn't go through Vooch in the post is a mistake.

Now stop Chris fucklng Lavert.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 04, 2022, 06:59:45 pm
Demar playing selfish.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 04, 2022, 07:02:33 pm
Incredibly frustrating half.  No defense and only 10 shots for Vooch in what should be a total blowout.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 04, 2022, 07:53:13 pm
The Bulls inability to exploit mismatches is really impressive.  Vooch has fewer shots than DeRozan.  But by all means, let's get as many Thomas and Hill 3s up as possible.

Philly and Phoenix are going to beat us like a rented mule, so they better not let this one slip away.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 04, 2022, 08:06:16 pm
I hope Vooch remembers this once everybody is back.  He was a 25 per game scorer in Orlando - he's a beast in the post if he'll be aggressive and they just give him the damn ball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 04, 2022, 08:10:26 pm
Vucevic 34 points with 2 3-point attempts.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 04, 2022, 08:25:31 pm
That move by Ayo...  Wow.  Just wow.

There are obvious positives - a totally dominating performance by Vooch, 15 and 14 from Ayo, another big game from Green.  But that should not have been that close.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 04, 2022, 09:03:38 pm
The Pacers seem like a terrible matchup for the Bulls no matter who is in the lineup.

Dosunmu looked like he was on a pogostick on that last dunk. Also hit those two big jumpers in the 4th.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 04, 2022, 09:15:51 pm
I'm starting to be convinced Ayu's upside is star - you don't even need the "-ter".  He's a special player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 06, 2022, 03:54:35 pm
Levine and White still out for the Bulls, Embid putting up over a point per minute.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 07, 2022, 12:49:14 am
Defense is obviously an issue for the Bulls at the moment, but even when healthy we just don’t have enough guys who can shoot.  Philly has a huge edge there, so does Miami.  If AK adds anywhere I hope it’s somebody who can shoot 3s with both volume and accuracy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 07, 2022, 03:27:47 pm
Quote
he Spurs, league sources say, have rebuffed one Chicago offer for in-demand center Jakob Poeltl centered around a future first-round pick. As we’ve been reporting for weeks, Poeltl is among the most coveted centers in the league at a time numerous teams are pursuing them.
  - Marc Stein

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 07, 2022, 05:50:44 pm
It’s interesting that the only two guys the Bucks have been directly connected to are Poeltl and Schroeder, two good (Poeltl more than Schroeder) players who seem like odd fits for the current roster.  Of course AKME are notoriously stealthy so that may mean absolutely nothing.

Poeltl is really good - an elite defender who’s quite capable of scoring in the paint.  But neither he or Vucevic are 4s by any stretch of the imagination.  Is Billy ever going to use two straight-up centers at the same time?  He tried it occasionally last season with Theis and clearly prefers small-ball lineups.  Poeltl is better than Theis but still, he’s mainly going to be your backup center - and how can they pay what the Spurs will want for a backup center?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 07, 2022, 06:15:43 pm
On paper, the Bulls don't have much chance tonight.  Maybe they'll surprise me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 07, 2022, 07:38:15 pm
Nobody to even pretend to slow down Booker with Caruso and Ball out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 07, 2022, 08:43:18 pm
Bulls are not in the same class as Phoenix.  Not even close.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 07, 2022, 09:25:29 pm
Not a fair fight playing 4th game in 5 days without three of their best defenders though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 07, 2022, 11:29:43 pm
It's nice to have smart management.  These games against the elite teams should be instructive as to what areas need improvement in order for the Bulls to compete for a championship.  Staying healthy is a major issue as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 08, 2022, 02:14:23 am
The Bulls aren’t competing for a championship this season.  Any trades they make should reflect that reality.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 08, 2022, 08:55:21 pm
Most exciting team in the NBA…

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220209/9b049a6fb691215023df8c3ce708dee8.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 09, 2022, 05:45:46 pm
Now the Bulls lose Dosunmu to concussion protocol.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 10, 2022, 07:38:37 am
Pretty good effort by the Bulls on the road last night albeit against a mediocre team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 10, 2022, 05:14:56 pm
Surprising to see the Bulls punt the season when so many East teams improved themselves. I wouldn't have traded Coby or Williams for dross given only a true star would make this squad a title contender, but a lot of guys who could really have helped the Bulls got moved for prices they could easily have met.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 10, 2022, 05:24:03 pm
They'll likely get someone from the buyout marker.  I trust their decision makers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 10, 2022, 05:31:44 pm
Who?  Tristan Thompson, Goran Dragic?  Their advanced metrics have been terrible for years.  Millsap is probably washed but he's not getting bought out now anyway, and while Thagic would have become eligible to return after being traded, Toronto traded for him to play him.  There's nobody decent in the buyout market.

I get this idea of waiting for the cavalry but the Bulls are 1-11 against the top teams in the league, some of that when they were mostly healthy.  What if those guys don't make it back, or other guys ge hurt in the meantime?  As packed as the East is the Bulls could easily be slotted in the play-in game by the time Ball and Caruso return.  Given how long it's been since they were even in the postseason, it's kind of shocking to see them risk missing the playoffs again rather than part with an expiring like Brown or Jones and a 2nd round pick for some desperately needed size and depth.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 10, 2022, 05:58:11 pm
I'll be shocked (and really disappointed) if the Bulls don't finish top 6 in the East.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on February 10, 2022, 06:02:15 pm
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/10/1079870231/super-bowl-truckers-protest-dhs

(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/02/10/ap22038019114833-1b991708c7672f86aa588058c20677a817765435-s800-c85.webp)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 10, 2022, 06:05:17 pm
I'll be shocked (and really disappointed) if the Bulls don't finish top 6 in the East.

Honestly I think it’s 50-50 at this point.  When was the last time we beat a team that was actually good?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 10, 2022, 09:00:08 pm
They really need to get Ball and Caruso (and Jones, Jr.) back.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 10, 2022, 10:10:59 pm
The Bulls are 8-11 in their last 19, and none of those guys (or Williams, though it's debatable if he actually helps) are back for at least a month.  If anything 50-50 to avoid the play-in may be erring on the side of optimism.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 11, 2022, 06:48:12 pm
Vucevic and Dosunmu both start.  Minnesota is playing very well but gotta bank as many winnable games as possible to try and stay in the main draw.  This team as currently constructed isn't going to get any Ws against elite teams.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 11, 2022, 08:10:08 pm
Bulls dominating in most stat categories but only a 1-pt lead at the half. Biggest difference is they are -7 in turnovers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 11, 2022, 08:36:56 pm
The Bulls are shooting 60% from the field and losing at home late in the 3rd.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 11, 2022, 08:57:58 pm
White making shots, Dosunmu making plays to dig the Bulls out of hole.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 12:14:37 am
Minny is tough.  That was an good an overall team performance as the Bulls have had in weeks.

DeRozan really is amazing.  What a pure scorer.  Overall you’d have to say when everyone is healthy the Bulls collectively have the deepest guard corps in the league.  But you can’t sleep on Javonte.  He’s a real find - a perfect fit for this team.

Also worth mentioning - Vooch has been tremendous lately.  He flat outplayed KAT tonight.  All of his numbers are basically back to career norms except FGA and 3-point %.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 12, 2022, 07:53:34 am
I'd say that was a statement game by the Bulls.  All the criticism about their not adding anyone by the trade deadline is no doubt motivating.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 06:00:50 pm
DJJ is supposedly playing tonight.  Now that's unexpected.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 12, 2022, 06:25:55 pm
Even a minor contribution would be helpful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 06:39:52 pm
Especially with Lavine and Green out again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 07:19:40 pm
Trap game, but you don't have the luxury of losing trap games anymore.  When the schedule gets tough it's going to be tough not to slip down the table.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 12, 2022, 07:49:55 pm
Bulls look awful, and there's someone on the Thunder who is 7 feet tall and 190 pounds.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 12, 2022, 07:51:49 pm
Malcom Hill probably the Bulls' best bench player at the moment.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 07:52:07 pm
Putrid so far.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 08:11:02 pm
Pretty fortunate to be down 4 after a horrible first half.  I know you've got guys out but it's just not acceptable for a team with aspirations to tank a game against a 17-38 team without their best player on the second night of a back-to-back.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 08:27:53 pm
Also, they're trying to defend Vooch with guys he outweighs by about 100 pounds and he should get the ball in the post on every possession.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 08:40:49 pm
Total clunker by White and Brown in the starting lineup, but Vooch is absolutely killing them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 08:51:03 pm
If Vooch were shooting 40% from 3 again he'd be basically unstoppable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 08:54:42 pm
Goc, Thomas is awful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 12, 2022, 08:56:36 pm
Green was hurt on that dunk last night and his absence is noticeable.

Got Jones back anyway. Only down 4 regulars.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 08:58:36 pm
Get Thomas OUT.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 09:00:14 pm
Just a reminder, Deandre Bembry is a free agent and Matt Thomas is being paid to play basketball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 09:04:34 pm
I give DJJ credit for gutting it out but he shouldn't be out there, clearly.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 09:11:54 pm
DJJ is +14 playing with one hand.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 12, 2022, 09:20:53 pm
Luguentz Dort would be a HOF'er before he retired if all his games were against the Bulls.

White becoming a big-shot maker.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 12, 2022, 09:34:18 pm
Dort's a good player, and their leading scorer is out.  Might have been different with any of our 3 best wing defenders active.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 13, 2022, 04:31:33 pm
Bracing for a seemingly inevitable Lavine  surgery announcement.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 14, 2022, 11:21:50 am
Crazy for him to consider participating in All Star game activities.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 14, 2022, 05:05:26 pm
There are a lot of questions, obviously, but you’d hope the Bulls have at least explored the Tyreke Evans option.  He was a hell of a player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 14, 2022, 05:55:09 pm
Unless the Bulls have something clearly better (like Evans) they’re shooting for, you’d like to think they’re trying to sign Deandre Bembry.  He’s no star but a clear upgrade over McKinnie, Thomas, or Hill as a 3 and D wing. Not a bad 3-point shooter and a very solid defender.  Even if he’s no better than Troy Brown at the moment the Bulls could use two Troy Browns, considering how many minutes he’s getting and who else is seeing the floor.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 14, 2022, 08:30:06 pm
The Bulls just don't play defense with Caruso out. They did the first two months but not anymore.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 14, 2022, 09:41:07 pm
Bulls tighten up late and hold off the Spurs. DeRozan great again and White continues to make big shots and be great from three.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 14, 2022, 11:08:00 pm
Gotta be impressed with the Bulls.  DeRozan and Vooch make a potent 1-2 punch.  LaVine has not played well recently, but that almost certainly is attributable to his knee and back problems.  They need him healthy and playing well to beat the good teams.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 15, 2022, 03:35:08 am
That 3-way hug with Pop, DeMar and Billy after the game was awesome.  Pop is an incredible person as well as being an incredible coach.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 15, 2022, 03:45:56 pm
Shlt, Bucks about to get Bembry.  We can't keep doing nothing while our rivals get better.  Winning games is nice but we're needing to rely on the core playing huge minutes and DeRozan being superhuman to beat mediocre or worse teams. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 16, 2022, 08:55:40 pm
Bulls in another tough game against a bad Sacramento team, but White's making big shot after big shot late again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 16, 2022, 09:16:46 pm
White with 13 in the 4th quarter and 31 in the game. Bulls are going to hold on.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 16, 2022, 09:48:36 pm
Coby and DeRozan were terrific and Green chipped in as well.  Maybe the acquisition of Thompson will help against teams with tough big men like Sabonis.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 16, 2022, 10:39:56 pm
This is pretty amazing.

Quote
DeMar DeRozan becomes the first player in NBA history with seven straight games of 35+ points and 50% or better shooting.

https://twitter.com/chicagobulls/status/1494150782132064256
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 17, 2022, 01:08:41 am
Coby and DeRozan were terrific and Green chipped in as well.  Maybe the acquisition of Thompson will help against teams with tough big men like Sabonis.

The thing about Thompson is that signing a backup center doesn’t really make you bigger - maybe you could incrementally upgrade on Bradley (with someone like RoLo) but you’re still only going to have one off them on the floor.  Thompson is an upgrade on Bradley as Vooch’s backup, but they can also play together against big opponents.  He’s a nasty player with a ton of postseason experience and in the 95th percentile for offensive rebounding % (and almost always has been).  He’s a definite boost to depth and gives Billy another option.

Now they still need to sign a 3-and-D wing.  McKinnie and Hill are not anybody you want to have to play, and Thomas is barely an NBA player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on February 17, 2022, 06:28:48 pm
In case you havent been watching Ayo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awPjYUpQI2Y&ab_channel=TheRinger
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on February 18, 2022, 09:37:53 am
Ayo is already good and with some lifting and experience he could be special.  Man what a steal!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 26, 2022, 09:02:37 pm
That no call on JJJ, followed by the T on Jaren, is about as pathetic as I’ve seen this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 26, 2022, 11:42:27 pm
I suppose on some level it's a moral victory for the Bulls to at least not be blown out by an elite team, but their record against good competition is a huge red flag.  Hard to overstate how much they need Caruso back.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 28, 2022, 09:30:43 pm
https://twitter.com/espn/status/1498484246708559880?s=21
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 28, 2022, 09:33:29 pm
52 points, 7 rebounds

22/30 from the field, 4/4 from three, 4/5 from the line

Thank you Pelicans!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 28, 2022, 09:51:48 pm
https://fb.watch/btkssPNwWU/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 03, 2022, 09:54:31 pm
The Bulls shot 59% and had 30 assists against Atlanta and lost.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 04, 2022, 04:42:58 am
I think the Bulls are in trouble.  Still believe the play-in game is a real possibility.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 04, 2022, 08:04:45 pm
Bulls are definitely a notch below the Heat, 76ers, and Bucks.  They can compete with Cleveland and Boston I believe.  Unsure about the Nets.  Gotta hope that the return of Lonzo, Caruso, and Williams will make a major difference.  Possible but not probable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 07, 2022, 06:11:12 pm
No Vooch against Embry and the Sixers.  That could be ugly.

To me the aim has to be to avoid the play-in tournament at all costs.  Falling into it would be a disappointment, losing in it a complete disaster.  This team was never a real contender but getting into the postseason and playing a full series is absolutely vital for numerous reasons.

Pretty much a given Boston will pass us, but we could hang on.  Once you get past Boston and Cleveland there are no obvious candidates breathing down out necks.  Brooklyn is obviously better than the Bulls with KD but they’re under .500 and it would take a pretty total collapse to fall below them at this point.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 09, 2022, 11:04:24 pm
Stopped the bleeding with another hero-ball 4th from DeRo, and some good defense to be fair.  Absolutely had to have this one, zero doubt about it.  Maybe Caruso coming back soon will make a difference, but this team has bigger problems than that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 12, 2022, 07:44:56 pm
Probably the biggest game of the season for the Bulls against their main rival for a non play-in spot.  Even with Zach out the Bulls with Caruso are less depleted than the Cavs with no Allen, Lauri or Lavert.  Very sloppy so far but Caruso's presence really makes a difference.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 12, 2022, 08:05:55 pm
It's remarkable how much more energy the Bulls have when Caruso plays.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 12, 2022, 09:22:27 pm
Bulls held Cleveland to 91.  Last time the Bulls held an opponent under 100 - Jan 22nd, the day AC got mugged by Allen.  Coincidence? 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 12, 2022, 09:55:02 pm
Dosunmu was tremendous on both ends.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 13, 2022, 12:33:01 pm
Caruso no doubt gave the Bulls a big lift.  Nice to get a W without LaVine and with DeRozan having a mediocre game.  DJ Jr. sometimes annoys me, but he was a team high +17 last night.  Super solid game for Ayo.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 13, 2022, 12:54:49 pm
Coby with a strong game as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 14, 2022, 09:20:10 pm
Might have been tempting to rest Zach against Sac in the hope you can beat them anyway, but need him in Utah or Phoenix to have any chance.  But on paper you expect to lose those games anyway, so this is the must-win.  Probably the right call.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 14, 2022, 09:33:58 pm
So far the Bulls are getting throttled.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 16, 2022, 07:39:49 pm
Patrick Williams likely back within the week, maybe Monday vs. Toronto (which is a huge game).  The Bulls have way bigger problems than Williams can fix but it’s going to be fascinating to see how Donovan uses him.  To be brutally frank he wasn’t that good before he was hurt - the potential is obvious but in terms of being an effective player he didn’t offer much.  Hard to see a guy like that getting big minutes in a playoff race, but he is big and the Bulls do need size at the 4.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 16, 2022, 10:34:47 pm
The Bulls are really struggling.  LaVine is not playing like an All Star and you can't expect to get bailed out by DeRozan every game.When Williams returns, they need him to provide some offense as well as defense.  Otherwise, they don't have much chance to win a playoff series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 17, 2022, 12:54:56 am
There’s no way Williams is going to provide any offense.  He didn’t when he was healthy - he certainly won’t when he’s been out for six months.

At this point I would consider avoiding the play-in game a success.  The Bulls are almost certainly not winning a series but I think it’s pretty important for the franchise to at least play one. And if you go into a play-in that all goes out the window with one bad night.  And there have been a lot of bad nights lately. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 18, 2022, 11:23:06 pm
Dark days for the Bulls.  Absolutely outclassed against any decent team, Ball sounding like he might be done for the season.  The play-in tournament looks like a lock now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 22, 2022, 06:52:53 am
Well, that was an absolute must win game for the Bulls so it's nice to see them step up.  Best they've looked defensively in a while, even if Toronto did look tired.  As for Williams he played pretty well considering he hasn't been in a game in 5 months, but Javonte still offers more at this point - I'm not sure I'd be so quick to pull him out of the starting lineup.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 22, 2022, 10:20:36 pm
Bulls get blown out by 30 in a game that was never close after the first quarter, and DeRozan plays 36 minutes.  I like Donovan but he really needs to manage minutes better.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 24, 2022, 09:06:40 pm
Bulls smacked around in NO. Not sure what happened to the early season version. Can't really be blamed on Caruso's absence at this point.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 24, 2022, 09:24:41 pm
No DeRozan doesn't help, and NO has been quite good this past month or two.  Plus they got Nance back today.  But yeah, the Bulls, are pretty much playing it out at this point.  Going to be am interesting offseason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 24, 2022, 09:27:36 pm
They have no chance to compete for a Championship unless they add (or develop) another star player.  DeRozan, LaVine, and Vuc are just not enough.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 25, 2022, 01:53:23 am
Deandre Ayton is a restricted FA and the Suns have a ton of money on the books...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 25, 2022, 08:03:53 am
He could put them over the top.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on March 25, 2022, 08:03:22 pm
Heck of a baseball game in Oxford tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 25, 2022, 09:40:37 pm
Wouldn't that be cricket?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 27, 2022, 01:04:52 am
Had to have that win, no joke.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on March 28, 2022, 03:38:42 pm
Gotta wonder what this year's winning NCAA bracket will look like.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 31, 2022, 10:00:38 pm
Boy, the Bulls pulled that miracle absolutely from nowhere.  Avoiding the play-in is in plain sight now.

DeRozan, what can you say?  Clearly this is a lottery team without him.
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Post by: Dave23 on April 01, 2022, 09:31:45 pm
The Grizzlies just beat the Suns 122-114. They led pretty much the entire game.

The Suns were full strength, and played their starters the whole game.

The following Grizzlies got a DNP:

Ja Morant
Jaren Jackson Jr.
Desmond Bane
Steven Adams
Tyus Jones

So yeah, no PG, no problem…and our 2nd string beat the best team in the NBA.
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Post by: Deeg on April 02, 2022, 08:08:33 pm
So easy to see the difference between the Bulls and Heat.  They have shooters all over the floor, and they ignore most of our guys and let them shoot.  And they have a center who can switch onto anybody and guard them.  Williams looks improved and Ball coming back would help, but it's clear what the Bulls need to do this offseason if they want to be a contender.
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Post by: Deeg on April 02, 2022, 08:33:28 pm
It's painful to say it, but Vucevic just isn't good enough - which sounds odd, given his numbers.  He's a defensive liability given what the Bulls have around him and too inefficient on offense.  They'd be better off going small and switching everything, even if they get killed on the glass.
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Post by: guest405 on April 03, 2022, 07:29:32 pm
Enjoyable baseball in Nashville this weekend.
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Post by: method on April 03, 2022, 08:36:27 pm
It's painful to say it, but Vucevic just isn't good enough - which sounds odd, given his numbers.  He's a defensive liability given what the Bulls have around him and too inefficient on offense.  They'd be better off going small and switching everything, even if they get killed on the glass.

This was my worry when we got him, we gave up a lot, and he's not a star.
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Post by: Deeg on April 03, 2022, 09:07:24 pm
This was my worry when we got him, we gave up a lot, and he's not a star.

He looked like one in Orlando - even advanced metrics said he was.  But sometimes stats on bad teams are a mirage.  I think I even someone like Mitch Robinson, who offers nothing beyond 3 feet from the basket, would be a better fit.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 06, 2022, 07:50:02 pm
The Bulls are backing into the playoffs in serious fashion.  Totally outclassed against all their potential opponents, not even competitive.  I think I’d just rest everybody for the last two games and hope a 10-day blackout somehow resets the circuit breakers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 07, 2022, 04:14:04 pm
MLB should have Opening Day on the same day as the first round of the Masters every season.  Just a great way to kick off spring.  Come on Manfred, make it happen.

Also, it's a great day for sports to see Tiger back and playing well today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 08, 2022, 07:26:27 pm
Charlotte goes 8 minutes without missing a shot.  The Bulls defense is comedy gold.
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Post by: Deeg on April 08, 2022, 07:36:41 pm
At some point when do you wonder if coaching is the problem?  I hate to even say it but boy, this team is terrible - especially defensively - and has been for weeks.  It doesn't especially look as if they're even playing hard.

Obviously playoff experience is vital to a young team.  But if the Bulls get absolutely smoked in 4 straight (as they likely will be) on the heels of this hideous swoon, will that totally trash their confidence?
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Post by: Deeg on April 08, 2022, 08:04:42 pm
Only drama now is whether the Bulls can keep Charlotte from going for 80 in the first half.
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Post by: Deeg on April 08, 2022, 08:10:02 pm
Mission accomplished!  79-51.
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Post by: Chris27 on April 08, 2022, 08:20:37 pm
The Bulls seem to have thrown in the towel. Really a shame.
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Post by: Playtwo on April 08, 2022, 09:08:37 pm
Not much to play for tonight.  I think the Bulls will be better in the playoffs.  Not likely better enough to win a series but I expect a competitive first round series particularly if they draw Boston.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 08, 2022, 09:25:38 pm
Not much to play for tonight.  I think the Bulls will be better in the playoffs.  Not likely better enough to win a series but I expect a competitive first round series particularly if they draw Boston.

On what basis?  It hasn't mattered whether there was much to play for or not - the Bulls have been terrible for weeks.  Their defense is atrocious and even their effort seems to be in the tank.  They've been totally uncompetitive against good teams even before they jumped the shark.
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Post by: Playtwo on April 08, 2022, 10:03:30 pm
Call it a hunch.
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Post by: Deeg on April 08, 2022, 10:04:53 pm
I hope you're right.  But if the Bulls get swept out routinely, I think you have to legitimately question whether Donovan's job should be safe.  How does a good coach let a team completely quit like this?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 08, 2022, 10:08:58 pm
Also, with Zach's knee being a long-term concern and his defense never really rising above comical all season, I think whether you want to give this guy a max extension should be an open question.
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Post by: Playtwo on April 08, 2022, 10:59:04 pm
I wouldn't be too quick to blame Donovan, but I agree about LaVine.  He's an excellent player but you don't seriously contend unless he's no more than #3 in the pecking order.  It's hard to see giving him a max extension.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 08, 2022, 11:12:48 pm
At what point would it not be too quick?  7-15 in 22 games with continual defensive breakdowns is not exactly a small sample size.  And he just keeps repeating the same answers after it happens - he doesn't seem able to effect any changes.

All I'm saying is you need a hard reassessment at this point.  The Bulls are currently one of the worst teams in the NBA and you can't keep blaming it on injuries - we're talking about Lonzo and Caruso here, not Jordan and Pippen.  AKME need to take a hard, unsentimental look at this catastrophic collapse and try and isolate the fixable causes.  Whether that includes the coach or not is for them to decide.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 09, 2022, 07:23:56 pm
Hilariously, teams trying to tank their way into the 3-seed to draw the Bulls.
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Post by: Deeg on April 10, 2022, 08:12:10 pm
This is probably the lineup the Bulls should start the playoffs with.
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Post by: Deeg on April 10, 2022, 08:37:03 pm
How do you respond to this if you’re Billy?  All the rotation players you shelved when the team got healthy - Green, Brown, Jones - are playing lights out (and with maximum effort).  Meanwhile your “regulars” sleepwalked through the last month of the season looking like they could care less.  Should it be automatic that you play that same rotation in the postseason?

It probably doesn’t matter in the sense that the Bulls had zero chance against any of their potential opponents, but Milwaukee was probably their worst draw.  If they manage to steal a game and don’t get embarrassed, I think you’d call that a success.
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Post by: JR on April 10, 2022, 08:50:13 pm
Just to be sure there’s one post in here about it, congrats to Scottie Scheffler winning the Masters pretty much going away.  What a year he’s had so far.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 10, 2022, 09:22:59 pm
And to Rory for tying the final round scoring record. It would be great to see him get his head together and fulfill the promise he has to be the clear world #1.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 11, 2022, 09:21:35 pm
And to Rory for tying the final round scoring record. It would be great to see him get his head together and fulfill the promise he has to be the clear world #1.

Yeah Rory's just a joy to watch when he's playing well.  He looked like someone who will finally get back in the major win column this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 17, 2022, 06:36:17 pm
The Bulls have so many holes to fill this offseason - take your pick. But for me 3-point shooting has to be at the top of the list.  This is 2022 - don’t play like it’s 1992.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on April 17, 2022, 07:18:15 pm
That's the thing about DeMar.  He's the ultimate "crunch time" weapon, but you ought not rely on him for so many middle-of-the-game bulk points.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 18, 2022, 01:26:54 am
As much as moral victories suck (a lot) at least the Bulls showed some fight and played good defense.  After they totally capitulated in the second half of the season you had to wonder if they still had that in them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 18, 2022, 06:51:22 pm
Reflecting on that game, it feels more like a missed opportunity than anything.  Pretty safe bet that's the worst game the Bucks will play in the series.

Also, I didn't realize DeRozan had such a bad postseason track record (earning him the DeRisive nickname "DeFrozan").  That's a little concerning.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 21, 2022, 05:02:54 am
It's almost hard to believe the Bulls could be as lifeless as they were for the last month of the season and show this much fight these past two days.  They get a split in MKE and could easily have swept both games.  If nothing else, it's a good sign for the future with this core (and coach) that they had the mental fortitude to bounce back.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 21, 2022, 09:32:06 am
I agree.   It seems that winning game 2 at home to go up 2-0 is challenging for some reason.  The Bucks did not play particularly well.  If the Bulls can somehow take game 3, then I'll consider them serious threats to pull the upset in this series.  BTW, big kudos to DeMar for the bounce back.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 21, 2022, 04:37:02 pm
If Middleton is out, that certainly helps our chances.  And kudos to Thompson for taking Portis out of that game.  He and Allen are both punks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 21, 2022, 07:25:42 pm
Portis is a weird dude, but he never struck me as a dirty player.  Allen is in a different league.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on April 21, 2022, 09:38:12 pm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220422/01a7dde28104aec393f84abbf99c9126.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on April 21, 2022, 09:38:43 pm
That would be a 50-16 run…
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 21, 2022, 09:41:05 pm
Portis is a weird dude, but he never struck me as a dirty player.  Allen is in a different league.

Ask Niko Mirotic want kind of guy Portis is.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 21, 2022, 11:00:28 pm
Middleton out for the series, minimum.  Bucks would still be overwhelming favorites but that and losing HCA does flatten the odds a bit. Basically their co-second best player along with Holiday.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 22, 2022, 10:16:40 am
I'm not convinced that Portis is a villain in the Mirotic affair.  Perhaps there's info out there that I'm unaware of.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 22, 2022, 09:03:44 pm
A sadly predictable result.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 22, 2022, 09:23:59 pm
Yep.  No surprise.  It's possible that the Bulls could win a second game in this series but I wouldn't bet much on it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 22, 2022, 09:29:14 pm
You just figured the Bucks would come out on fire and the Bulls would have a letdown.  Caruso said as much after game 2, but that's not the same as being able to stop it.  I'm not convinced the Bulls won't bounce back and be competitive but even without Middleton the Bucks are still better and far more experienced.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 24, 2022, 02:27:57 pm
When you get embarrassed by a mascot like Allen, twice, you need to blow it up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 24, 2022, 04:58:11 pm
I don't know what "blow it up" means, except that it's fun to say.  The Bulls made a lot of progress this season.  They're better than they have been since the Thibs era.  But they're clearly not good enough, plain and simple.  The question is what next.

If you look at true contenders and then the Bulls, we're clearly lacking in obvious respects.  First, shooters - we don't have enough of them.  Second, two-way players.  Great teams have guys who excel on both sides of the ball, we have guys who are mostly good at one or the other.  That's why I think you have to seriously consider whether to give Lavine a max extension, but the question is - if not Zach, who?  What do you do with that money?  You probably have to ride it out with Vooch, and DeRozan is here two more seasons.  Williams looks good enough to be a piece (which is encouraging), and if Lonzo comes back that's another two-way player.  But the hardest part is getting from good to great and I don't see any obvious paths to do that.  I also don't see blowing it up and tanking again as an option either, after we had almost a decade of sucking.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 24, 2022, 06:32:23 pm
That's a fair analysis, Deeg.  I think it's realistic for the Bulls to build on this season and become more competitive with the top tier teams in the league, but it's going to be tough for them to become true contenders for a title.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 24, 2022, 06:42:56 pm
Play, if you could let Zach walk knowing you could sign a wing who scored less but was a better two-way player, I think you’d have to consider it.  But I don’t know who that guy is.  If he’s not out there I think you bite the bullet, max Lavine and try to build a team that hides his weaknesses.  A healthy Zach is closer to last year’s player than this, and that matters.  So of course you have to factor his knee situation into the decision.

Getting Lonzo back is huge - he addresses the team’s two biggest weaknesses, 3-point shooting and defense.  I don’t know where we stand with the knee but I’m certainly worried.  What the Bulls currently constructed need to add is basically Tyler Herro - or as close to him as you can possibly find. He’s an A-S caliber player so obviously getting someone on his level would be a miracle.  But maybe a Korver-type is doable, and that would help a lot.

It may also be time to move on from Coby.  He’s got a role in this league, but I don’t think he really fits what the Bulls are doing.  Ayo is obviously a keeper, although until he proves otherwise I think you assume he’s a valuable role player rather than a foundational piece.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dihard on April 26, 2022, 12:11:21 pm
Zach entering Covid protocols. That oughta seal the deal on this season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 26, 2022, 01:06:06 pm
Unfortunately, the deal was already sealed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 26, 2022, 04:43:09 pm
Yeah - no Zach and no Caruso should pretty well end any hopes of stealing another game.

Gonna be an interesting summer for AKME...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 15, 2022, 06:57:28 pm
At least I don't have to look at Allen or Portis anymore.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 15, 2022, 07:33:06 pm
I despise Allen but I don't particularly dislike Portis.  However, to me the Bucks are a dirty team and I'm glad they have been knocked out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 16, 2022, 05:48:01 pm
The Suns seem to be in meltdown mode and Ayton clearly has no interest in coming back.  If there’s any possible way to make that happen he’s a perfect fit for the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 18, 2022, 08:30:44 pm
Ayo all-rookie second team, which is certainly fair.  Too bad he’s only signed for next season.  A great bargain where they got him and it would be huge to see him step up next year, but I still think his offensive upside is too limited for him to be a legit elite player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on May 25, 2022, 07:53:15 pm
Did you know Veer Mahaan on WWE is the cat the movie Million Dollar Arm is based on?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on May 29, 2022, 10:14:54 am
Ive tried to not count my chickens before they hatch but does Tennessee have the best college baseball team ever?

Times like this make me miss Vander-Built.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on June 12, 2022, 03:07:39 pm
Less fur coats and talking and more on the field results.

Cutting promos like Ric Flair but wrestling like Jinder Mahal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 12, 2022, 03:48:36 pm
Ive tried to not count my chickens before they hatch but does Tennessee have the best college baseball team ever?

Times like this make me miss Vander-Built.

This didn’t age well…
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on June 12, 2022, 04:48:37 pm
Lmao

No it didnt Dave.

No it didnt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 12, 2022, 05:58:55 pm
Does this mean Notre Dame is the best baseball team ever?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 12, 2022, 06:56:40 pm
Maybe Ole Miss fans can help UT fans unload some of those Omaha hotel reservations...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 13, 2022, 09:56:38 pm
The SEC knows a thing or two about baseball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 14, 2022, 11:47:05 am
SEC pays better for coaches and players than minor league ball....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on June 14, 2022, 12:18:44 pm
The SEC knows a thing or two about baseball.

And Tennessee was SEC champs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 16, 2022, 07:47:03 pm
You never want to say “the game” needs one guy to win, but it sure would be good for golf if Rory broke through this week. He’s the sport’s most charismatic figure both on and off the course, and he’s emerged as its most eloquent defender from the Saudi coup.  8 years without a major, and you get the sense the pressure is really holding him back.  If he can finally get #5 you get the feelingling he could go on a huge tear, and that would be great for golf as a whole.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on June 16, 2022, 07:49:45 pm
Im a PGA Tour supporter but I kinda hoped Phil would win.

I dont see why they cant play both.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 16, 2022, 07:51:53 pm
It took the Saudi royal family to make the PGA Tour actually come off as sympathetic.  Talk about lowering the bar.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 16, 2022, 11:55:40 pm
Magnificent season for the Warriors.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on June 17, 2022, 05:04:34 am
Coming from someone who still fancies themselves as an assassin from 3 you've gotta respect Curry's shooting ability.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 17, 2022, 08:26:01 am
Magnificent season for the Warriors.

Steve Kerr is a great coach and a great human being.  He never wants to take any credit for anything but he's won a third of the NBA championships in the past 27 years either as a player or a coach.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on June 17, 2022, 10:44:50 am
There's a storm brewing in WWE right now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dihard on June 17, 2022, 12:56:20 pm
Steve Kerr is a great coach and a great human being.  He never wants to take any credit for anything but he's won a third of the NBA championships in the past 27 years either as a player or a coach.
Wow. Great fun fact, Deeg. And couldn’t agree more w your assessment of Kerr as a coach and a human.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 17, 2022, 01:19:32 pm
Had a decent 3-point shot as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 17, 2022, 03:02:03 pm
He was overshadowed by that bum Jordan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 17, 2022, 08:10:46 pm
For the second day in a row, play in the US Open golf tournament ran past its allotted TV time.  Viewers were told "if you want to see the rest of today's action, go to the Peacock Network".  Imagine the screaming if that happens Sunday afternoon.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 17, 2022, 09:39:41 pm
It won’t.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 20, 2022, 11:21:49 am
Twitter is reporting that LeVine has agreed to a 5 year max deal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 20, 2022, 12:03:58 pm
No surprise there.  They will need a significant upgrade in the supporting cast to make a splash next season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 20, 2022, 04:43:47 pm
Mixed emotions on that.  Lavine clearly isn't worth that, but the nature of the NBA cap means if you let Lavine walk you're not going to have the money to replace him with someone nearly as good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 20, 2022, 04:54:07 pm
I don't really see that the Bulls have much choice.  But they're going to have to be very creative/lucky to get much better for next season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 20, 2022, 05:01:03 pm
Ball's knee is the biggest factor in that, honestly.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 23, 2022, 05:17:27 pm
Flim flam, bim bam
Ole Miss, by damn!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on June 23, 2022, 06:10:37 pm
I cant hate.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 23, 2022, 10:33:26 pm
I can only assume the Bulls let GarPax come back and make that pick.

That was… odd.  With a consensus lottery guy in a position of need (Branham) still on the board, they took a guy they could have traded onto the top of the second round and still picked.  A taller Javonte Green.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 24, 2022, 03:16:11 am
The really funny thing is the Bulls signed an undrafted FA from Marquette, Justin Lewis, who was rated above the guy they took with the 18th pick by a few experts.  Nice get with Lewis, but it shows what a huge reach Terry was.  Almost impossible to believe they passed on Branham there.

It’s pretty mortifying that the FO has given no indication whatsoever that they consider the lack of shooting a priority.  After drafting/signing two defensive specialists, Eversley said the focus now would be on rim protection.  Not that it wasn’t obvious all season that a lack of shooters was the Bulls’ biggest problem, but did they not watch the Milwaukee series which proved it in grisly fashion?  Terry is just another guy postseason opponents won’t bother to guard.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 26, 2022, 05:36:27 pm
Hotty Toddy!

It’s a beautiful day!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 30, 2022, 01:51:14 pm
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 30, 2022, 02:07:27 pm
Durant has asked to be traded.  Wow!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 30, 2022, 02:08:31 pm
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

College sports are headed straight for the gutter.  Just so stupid.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 30, 2022, 02:32:03 pm
College sports are headed straight for the gutter.  Just so stupid.

Going to be announced in the next 24 hours according to Pete Thamel.  This is all football driven, it will be interesting to see what happens with non-football sports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 30, 2022, 04:45:35 pm
Durant has asked to be traded.  Wow!

I actually think he'd be up for coming to Chicago, but the Bulls don't have much to offer.  They've already pissed away most of their picks through 2025.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 30, 2022, 05:15:57 pm
I hope the Grizzlies aren’t tempted to give up what it would take to get KD…
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 30, 2022, 05:41:53 pm
Reports Bamba wanted to sign with the Bulls and AKME wanted him, but Reinsdorf refused to allow them to use the full MLE because it would have pushed them into the luxury tax…
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 30, 2022, 06:19:49 pm
New ownership may be needed for the Bulls to return to greatness.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on June 30, 2022, 06:35:27 pm
The Big 10 still wont have **** on the SEC especially with Oklahoma and Texas coming in.

They'll eventually raid the ACC too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 30, 2022, 06:38:40 pm
New ownership may be needed for the Bulls to return to greatness.

May?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 30, 2022, 07:12:36 pm
Apparently the Bulls’ big upside play this offseason is… Danilo Galinari.  But he apparently prefers Boston even for less money.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 30, 2022, 07:26:34 pm
I expect the Bulls to make a significant move.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 30, 2022, 07:30:25 pm
I expect the Bulls to make a significant move.

How?  The issue is assets (they’re barred from trading any 1st rounders apart from the conditional Portland pick through 2026).  They’ve tried to flog White and he clearly has minimal value around the league.  Williams probably has some value but it’s limited by the fact that even after two years in the league he’s a pure projection guy.  And their cap situation is bolloxed.  Add to that the owner’s unwillingness to go into the tax (which every contender does, deeply) and it’s hard to see where the significant move comes from.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 30, 2022, 09:25:39 pm
KC Johnson - nothing if not management’s mouthpiece - saying the Bulls and Andre Drummond, the king of empty stays, are close to a deal.  As Drummond provides neither shooting or elite rim protection that seems like an odd way to blow their wad.

If that’s their only significant move, woof.  Shooting is their greatest need.  I’d rather have Gallinari - at least he can shoot threes, even if he does nothing else.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 30, 2022, 09:32:35 pm
New ownership may be needed for the Bulls to return to greatness.

Says every White Sox fan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 30, 2022, 09:33:40 pm
Done deal per Woj (who’s pretty much never wrong) - 2/6.6.  Now we know why he was the one Reinsdorf wanted instead of one of the guys that actually made sense.

Well, we whiffed on rim protection - will we whiff on shooting too?  Still have a million or two above the minimum but I don’t know what that gets you.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 30, 2022, 10:02:54 pm
I wouldn't categorize that move as "significant".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 30, 2022, 10:14:34 pm
I wouldn't categorize that move as "significant".

Nor would I. Nor would I categorize a Gallinari move that way, though that seems to be about the biggest theoretical move they could make.  I suppose it’s possible they think they have enough left over from the MLE to get him, though I would suspect they need to outbid Boston considerably to be persuasive (and they can’t).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 01, 2022, 02:13:30 pm
Bulls sign Derrick Jones, Jr.  I'm getting nervous.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2022/07/01/derrick-jones-jr-will-return-to-the-bulls-on-a-fresh-two-year-deal/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 01, 2022, 03:14:31 pm
Big 10 is apparently trying to get ND to join before talking to any other schools.  For the first time ever the Big 10 probably makes sense for ND.  Since they hired Freeman their recruiting has been significantly better than it was under Kelly.
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Post by: Deeg on July 01, 2022, 03:44:48 pm
Bulls sign Derrick Jones, Jr.  I'm getting nervous.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2022/07/01/derrick-jones-jr-will-return-to-the-bulls-on-a-fresh-two-year-deal/


The Bulls offseason is an abject disaster.  They had a chance to draft an impact shooter or rim protector and did neither.  They had a chance to get Bamba or Hartenstein and signed Drummond for just over the minimum.  They desperately needed shooters and instead resigned a guy the coach didn’t want to use last season who can’t shoot.

It’s all about avoiding the luxury tax, which no serious contender does.  The skeptics kept saying Reinsdorf would do this, while the BNs of the world kept saying “kumbaya”.  It now seems clear this rebuild was all about making the Bulls competitive so they could sell tickets.  As for winning championships that’s clearly not on the agenda and never was, and never will be under this owner.  Who will never sell a team that’s a huge cash cow for him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on July 01, 2022, 07:26:04 pm
You seem to really love the Bulls Deeg.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 01, 2022, 07:46:50 pm
If I didn’t stuff like this wouldn’t have the power to plss me off.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 03, 2022, 04:41:37 pm
Dragic is an odd signing.  Could be an indication Ball's knee is still shot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 07, 2022, 06:14:15 pm
The Blackhawks have kinda hit rock bottom as an organization again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 07, 2022, 08:53:14 pm
Their new management team deserves a chance.  Unlike the Cubs, the only option for the B'Hawks is a complete rebuild.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 07, 2022, 10:09:35 pm
Do they though? So far the results are not good. Trading DeBrincat's bad enough but getting little in return is worse.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 07, 2022, 10:15:53 pm
I think it is all about getting the team bad enough for Bedard.

The Jones trade and going for it last year just set them back so far. The Bulls seem happy to try and be an 8th place team, the Blackhawks are at least trying to get better in the future. It is going to be a brutal couple years.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 07, 2022, 10:33:01 pm
Bedard might not even be the best player in that draft, but the lottery makes it much more about chance than just sucking.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 07, 2022, 10:41:46 pm
Certainly a risk and next years draft is supposed to be a lot better.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on July 08, 2022, 11:23:22 am
Poor Vince McMahon.

It keeps getting worse.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on July 08, 2022, 11:46:00 am
Dave Meltzer says if Vince has to sell look for Tony Khan or The Rock to buy it.

Ive felt for a little while that Tony Khan was gonna take over the wrestling world eventually.

WWE isnt wrestling like the NFL isnt football.

Its a league and if that league didnt exist another one would.

Ive always been a WWF/WWE fan but part of me thinks it might be good for wrestling for things to change.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 08, 2022, 12:50:02 pm
Word around the league concurs that the Blackhawks got fleeced for DeBrincat.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on July 14, 2022, 02:17:12 pm
Ayton to the jazz 4/135…

Why were the bulls not in on this??
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on July 14, 2022, 02:55:49 pm
Sorry to the pacers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on July 14, 2022, 04:22:00 pm
Tiger Woods shot a six over 78 in the first round of the British Open (I refuse to call it just "The Open") and is tied for 146th place out of 160.  Cameron Young leads at -8.  Rory McIlroy is in second two back of Young.

Tiger, retirement is calling.  Answer the phone.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 14, 2022, 05:08:13 pm
Write Woods off at your peril.  He's still close enough to the injury to where his condition could get a little better.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 14, 2022, 05:08:36 pm
Ayton to the jazz 4/135…

Why were the bulls not in on this??

No cap space, no assets Phoenix would want.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on July 17, 2022, 08:54:20 am
Whoever is providing NBC with TV coverage of the British Open is making the Fox Network look good in comparison.  Seldom can you see where a ball lands on either a tee shot or an approach shot.  There have even been putts shown where you could not see the hole.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 17, 2022, 10:07:05 am
Rory just took the putter from 60 yards on #6.  Gotta love links golf.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on July 17, 2022, 10:30:53 am
Im as big of a golf fan and golfer as there is.

Hell Ive played twice in the last 4 days but I'd just as soon play some nice course around here than St. Andrews.

Its like the girl that all your homeboys tell you is a baddie but when you see her you see a 6.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on July 17, 2022, 01:15:35 pm
Cameron Smith earned every bit of that Open championship today…that was impressive!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on July 17, 2022, 01:18:00 pm
I'm in the middle when it comes to St. Andrews.  Four drive-able par fours is three too many.  The pot bunkers can be excessively penal.    And the course just has very little visual appeal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on July 17, 2022, 03:24:58 pm
Dusty, perhaps like that girl you describe (and millions of others), the Old Course is one that becomes more beautiful and compelling the better you know her.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on July 17, 2022, 04:20:06 pm
Courses Id rather play than St. Andrews.

Pebble Beach,Augusta,Waialae,Kiawah Island Ocean Course, Sawgrass,Bay Hill,Cypress Point,Harbour Town,Spyglass Hill,Torrey Pines,TPC Scottsdale.

Im sure I can think of more.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on July 17, 2022, 05:51:49 pm
Dusty,

Your golf experience is not complete until you've played at altitude.  I heartily recommend the Vail Golf Club in Vail, Colorado which is at 8,200 feet. 

They have bushes you can use to tell how many 300 yard drives you have hit.  It's a long narrow course in a valley with the Vail Creek winding from one end of the course to the other.  The creek comes into play on about 14 holes and twice on a few.  And the scenery is not too shabby.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 18, 2022, 06:50:18 am
Off your list Dusty I've only played Torrey. My only complaint was the fog didn't burn off until the 5th hole so I didn't see much of my ball or those holes. Great course though.  I'm playing Pebble in the spring which is in my top three but I have always wanted to play St Andrews. I will get over there eventually.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on July 18, 2022, 07:58:33 am
I plan to play Kiawah Island this Fall.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on July 22, 2022, 08:36:04 pm
Vince McMahon has retired.

The rasslin world is changing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on July 29, 2022, 12:29:28 pm
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/28/sport/jerry-jones-derogatory-term-little-people-cowboys-spt-intl/index.html

Midget is derogatory?  Who knew?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 29, 2022, 07:02:56 pm
Well - I think a lot of people TBH.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on July 29, 2022, 07:51:07 pm
Im a supposed to call them dwarves then?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 31, 2022, 05:58:26 pm
Sports lost a great man in Bill Russell today.  Probably the greatest winner in NBA history, yes, but also a thoughtful and dignified example of an athlete whose life was about more than the sport he played and coached.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on August 21, 2022, 06:30:25 pm
Willaims looks good.

https://twitter.com/barstoolchicago/status/1561145591295533059
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 21, 2022, 07:18:25 pm
Willaims looks good.

https://twitter.com/barstoolchicago/status/1561145591295533059

Against bartenders and loading dock workers, yeah.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on September 11, 2022, 07:07:48 pm
Never thought I'd see a player with more talent than Federer but I believe Alcaraz is that guy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on September 21, 2022, 04:56:21 pm
Unfortunately for the Bulls it's starting to look like Ball is done.  This debridement surgery sounds like a hail Mary.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on September 25, 2022, 02:42:23 pm
Justin Fields makes Mitch Trubisky look like Joe Montana.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 08, 2022, 06:51:33 pm
I normally put zero stock in preseason, but the Blackhawks scored 5 goals in 6 games. The NHL record for futility might be in danger.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 09, 2022, 07:34:44 pm
Andre Drummond 3-3 from 3 tonight.  The NBA is broken.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on October 09, 2022, 08:14:29 pm
Fairly significant football game in Knoxville this Saturday.

#we're back
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on October 15, 2022, 08:59:54 am
It dont get any bigger in college football than today in Knoxville and if you disagree you're just jealous.

Im not guaranteeing a UT victory either.

I paid 300 dollars a piece for Florida tickets.

Alabama tickets cost me twice as much.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 15, 2022, 09:01:00 am
UT is going to get crushed, in college football there is GA and UA and then a giant step down to everyone else.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on October 15, 2022, 09:06:34 am
I dont know that I disagree Method.

UT has the best offense in the country and possibly the Heisman frontrunner but they dont play a lick of defense.

UT cant stop Alabama from scoring if Young's healthy but I bet Alabama can slow down UT.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 15, 2022, 06:18:33 pm
I'm really impressed with this Asian quarterback for Tennessee
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 15, 2022, 07:33:11 pm
Wow amazing game. UT offense is unreal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 15, 2022, 07:54:47 pm
Looks like Curt has an Asian fetish.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 15, 2022, 08:57:31 pm
One of my best friends is General Tsao
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 15, 2022, 09:19:13 pm
I love his chicken.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on October 15, 2022, 10:29:32 pm
Hell of a night.

Feels like 98.

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Post by: guest405 on October 15, 2022, 10:30:24 pm
Worth every penny.

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 15, 2022, 11:12:35 pm
I liked seeing Alabama lose.  I didn't care it was Tennessee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 16, 2022, 04:35:29 am
As a Michigan fan, I agree.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 16, 2022, 08:37:04 am
Ole Miss is now atop the standings in the SEC West, so I have to like that.

That said, my favorite teams every weekend are Ole Miss and whoever plays Tennessee, so…I have to hate it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 19, 2022, 05:06:33 pm
Some serious Bullshltting going on with Lavine.  They insist he's not injured but is being held out of the opener for "knee injury management".  Why play him in three preseason games and hold him out of the regular season?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 19, 2022, 05:39:12 pm
If he's limited in the same way he was limited the last few months of last season the Bulls are toast.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 19, 2022, 06:31:29 pm
To be fair, they were probably toast anyway.

I understand giving Lavine the max extension, even though he’s not really a max extension player.  But if his knee is never going to be right, that could wind up as an unmitigated disaster for a franchise whose long-term prospects were already pretty grim.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 19, 2022, 10:14:16 pm
Leave it to the Bulls to somehow win in Miami with no Lavine or Ball.

DeRozan and DoSunmu lead the way. Dragic hurt his old team too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 19, 2022, 10:42:07 pm
Shocking.  The Heat did not look ready to play for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 20, 2022, 05:27:16 am
True, but that was still a hell of an effort by the Bulls.  DeRozan is still ridiculous of course but the bench could be significantly improved.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 20, 2022, 07:29:27 am
I thought Ayo was terrific.  DeRozan was great but I worry about keeping him fresh for later in the season particularly with questions about LaVine's availability.  Caruso needs to take better care of the ball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 20, 2022, 08:47:05 am
It's a shame Caruso is such a rotten offensive player because everything else is great.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 20, 2022, 11:32:32 am
Drummond may prove to be a pleasant surprise.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 22, 2022, 08:07:05 pm
Zach looks OK, but the Bulls just don't have enough shooting.  As predicted, and not addressed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on October 22, 2022, 08:08:21 pm
Ole Miss?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 22, 2022, 08:11:21 pm
Cleveland is a mid-tier team in the East, without Garland.  But they're much bigger than the Bulls, and shoot much better.  That's a bad combination.  When you're small and don't shoot 3s, your margin of error is pretty tiny.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 24, 2022, 11:30:25 pm
If anyone can figure the Bulls out you're a step ahead of me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on October 25, 2022, 12:35:00 am
Attn JR

(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/10/GettyImages-519146974.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=512)

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/34872779/jim-nantz-call-last-final-four-2023-ian-eagle-take-over
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 25, 2022, 05:09:48 am
That was a hell of a turnaround by the Bulls -  outscored Boston 49-14 at one stretch.  They have to be max effort to be any good - no margin for error - and they were after the first quarter.  And that doesn't bode well for Williams.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 25, 2022, 05:31:06 am
Williams doesn't seem to play with any joy.  He needs to let loose a bit.  Otherwise, he might never develop the confidence required to succeed at the NBA level.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 25, 2022, 09:00:39 am
It's quite a stark contrast with Ayo, who isn't exceptionally gifted athletically but plays with total confidence and never seems to shy away from the moment.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 25, 2022, 05:52:35 pm
Also, I’m really tired of Donovan leaving the starters in blowout games for no reason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 25, 2022, 06:07:14 pm
Crazy risking injury for no obvious reason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 27, 2022, 05:11:00 am
I was agnostic about the D-boys, but Dragic and Drummond still have a lot in the tank.  Dragic is really fun to watch, and he's basically transformed the Bulls' bench with his floor leadership.
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Post by: guest405 on October 30, 2022, 07:14:26 pm
Damn boys I hate to say it but the Big Orange are gonna **** around and win a national title aint they?

Up to #2.

Fairly significant game in Athens Saturday BTW.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 30, 2022, 07:51:35 pm
Still unlikely, they will 100% lose to Ohio or GA.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on October 30, 2022, 08:16:36 pm
Just like they were 100% gonna lose to Alabama right?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 31, 2022, 05:20:43 am
Ut has no defense… both those teams are complete on all parts of the game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on October 31, 2022, 10:08:24 am
I do agree that UTs defense isn't particularly strong but I wonder if their offense is strong enough that it doesn't matter.

I dont think Ohio State is on the same level as UT,Georgia,or Alabama though.

If Georgia does beat Tennessee my bet is they're the only team that can.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 01, 2022, 09:17:59 pm
I’m not sure how many MLS fans we have here, but it was really cool to see Nashville SC’s Hany Mukhtar win the MLS MVP award today.  Really fun player to get to watch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 02, 2022, 07:18:46 am
Look who's #1...

https://twitter.com/BigOrangeMack/status/1587593522084970497?t=y_mcHzBF37_wcM24rV4v6g&s=19
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 02, 2022, 08:44:59 pm
Boy, Dragic has still got the moves.  It's like watching the King and His Court play softball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 02, 2022, 08:49:12 pm
Bulls have 5 in double-figures after 3 quarters.  Neither DeRozan or Lavine is among them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 02, 2022, 11:41:38 pm
DeRozan-Lavine-Vucevic: 11-43 FGA.  Everyone else: 27-41 FGA.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 03, 2022, 04:16:13 am
Strange game.  Green, Jones, Jr., and Williams were outstanding.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 03, 2022, 09:18:00 am
Ayo is looking more and more comfortable as well.  Would like to see more activity on the defensive end but that is really nitpicking. He looks terrific.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 03, 2022, 10:08:11 am
If they ever get to full strength, they will be hard to beat.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 03, 2022, 12:15:00 pm
When you say full strength are you including Ball?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 03, 2022, 01:41:14 pm
Most definitely.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 03, 2022, 06:48:01 pm
If they ever get to full strength, they will be hard to beat.

Except by better teams like Boston, Miami, and Milwaukee.  And Philly always has their number as long as Embeid is playing.

Having a 100% Lonzo is a million miles from a sure thing.  But if it happens yeah, obviously it makes a big difference.  But even with Lonzo the Bulls were still utterly useless against the top teams in the NBA last season.  Having Drummond and Dragic makes them better, but they still won't have enough productive 3-point shooters or enough rim protection, and they'll still be relying on 2 stars who don't play defense. 


"Full strength" is something NBA teams hardly ever achieve, because someone is always always hurt (as Drummond and White are now).  But if the Bulls somehow get there, I agree they'll be a pain to play against and a dangerous team.  But I still think they're a 4-5 seed and very unlikely to worry Milwaukee, Miami, or Boston in a 7-game series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 04, 2022, 08:09:05 am
Yes sir.

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 04, 2022, 11:45:16 am
I’ll be glad when that **** is over after tomorrow…
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 04, 2022, 08:57:45 pm
It wont be.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 04, 2022, 09:02:25 pm
Im confident Tennessee will win.

Im just swaying back and forth between a close game and a whooping like LSU got.

Ill say 48-41 Tennessee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on November 05, 2022, 03:53:11 pm
I don't think there's enough time for them to get sixteen field goals.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 05, 2022, 07:17:35 pm
He was right about it being a mismatch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 05, 2022, 07:32:56 pm
Never underestimate home field advantage in college ball
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 05, 2022, 07:59:57 pm
They're flat better than Tennessee.

Im not gonna sugarcoat it.

I still think UTs top 5 and a playoff contender.

Us being Cub fans Im sure you all can appreciate that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 05, 2022, 08:02:31 pm
Tennessee’s chances of making the playoff are still looking decent if the Clemson and Bama scores hold up tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 05, 2022, 08:04:26 pm
Along if the Michigan score holds up as well…
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 05, 2022, 09:01:58 pm
A very good day for the Big Ten getting two teams in the playoff.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 05, 2022, 09:29:57 pm
Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 05, 2022, 10:43:34 pm
Whoever wins the Michigan-OSU game gets in, obviously.  Just a question of whether the loser gets in, too.

If the Big 10 is the only conference which has two undefeated teams playing each other in November, they probably should get both teams in the playoff.  The SEC would argue that their past track record in the playoff overrides that, but that's the calculus that will decide it.  The whole playoff system is a joke to begin with but it's all we have at the moment.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 05, 2022, 11:01:34 pm
I'd almost say the playoff might be shaping up as Georgia, OSU, Michigan, and Tennessee if the rest of the season goes as expected.  I really don't think Clemson, Oregon, or TCU as conference champions would have a better resume than a conference runner up Tennessee or the OSU/Michigan loser.  As lackluster of a game as Tennessee played against Georgia today, they still played them way better than Oregon did for example.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 06, 2022, 12:01:38 am
At least we know it won't be Alabama.  I'm fucklng sick of them and their A-hole coach.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 14, 2022, 12:59:05 am
The way the Bulls look right now they may be out of it before Ball comes back, if he even does this season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 14, 2022, 07:54:34 am
It's got to be tough to get motivated to try to get into the play-in round knowing there are so many teams in the East better than you.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 14, 2022, 04:31:03 pm
At this point the best plan might be to totally blow it up and try to get in the lottery.  A 10% shot at Wenbanyama might be the best chance the Bulls have of being relevant in the next five years - he’s that good, and they’re that middling.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 14, 2022, 04:44:42 pm
LaVine is a disappointment to me.  He doesn't seem to have the burning desire to win that a star needs.  Lots of talent but something's missing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 18, 2022, 09:06:48 pm
Betting Billy Donovan is going to take the fall at some point.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 18, 2022, 09:39:29 pm
Talk about a horrendous loss. The Bulls were down 15 at home to Orlando, battled all the way back, and had a 4-pt lead with 20 second to go. Still found a way to lose.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 18, 2022, 09:43:23 pm
They're just a bad team.  Absolutely no fun to watch.  About 10 minutes of real effort in most games.  Can't dump the players so Donovan is likely the fall guy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 18, 2022, 09:44:54 pm
LaVine might be the most disappointing player in the NBA this season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 18, 2022, 11:44:48 pm
It's got to be tough to get motivated to try to get into the play-in round knowing there are so many teams in the East better than you.

And they don't even have their draft pick.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 21, 2022, 07:50:08 pm
Are you worried about Lane,Dave?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 22, 2022, 09:40:14 am
Nope
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 22, 2022, 10:12:34 am
It would seem like a lateral move.

Auburn would have to pay him wildly to leave one would think.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 22, 2022, 11:01:40 am
Auburn is a dumpster fire.

If he goes there, he’s not as smart as one would presume.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 22, 2022, 11:07:49 am
Whatever you think of Tennessee the cream of the crop in the SEC is Georgia,Florida,Alabama,LSU,and the bottom is Vanderbilt,Missouri,Kentucky,and Mississippi State and the rest is kinda the middle of the pack and that includes Oklahoma and Texas.

There's not much difference between Ole Miss and Auburn unless its purely money related.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 22, 2022, 11:15:36 am
Though if you go by all time wins Tennessee would be 4th in the SEC behind Alabama,Texas,and Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 22, 2022, 11:28:40 am
And the 2 highest watched games of the year have been Tennessee games and 2 of the top 3 rated College Gameday's of the year have been Tennessee games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 23, 2022, 10:38:10 pm
Japan fans stay after match celebrations to clean up the stadium

Nothing like the awesome sense of collective responsibility.

Team Japan's fans stayed to clean up their surroundings after the match ended with their team pulling a stunning victory over Germany, a four-time World Cup champion.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 23, 2022, 11:10:42 pm
The sad part of the World Cup for me was seeing Walker Zimmerman, a super class act in Nashville and one of the best defenders in MLS if not the best, make the big mistake that cost the US the win against Wales.  Hopefully we'll be able to rebound from that and still make the knockout stage.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 23, 2022, 11:44:50 pm
Japan fans stay after match celebrations to clean up the stadium

Nothing like the awesome sense of collective responsibility.

Team Japan's fans stayed to clean up their surroundings after the match ended with their team pulling a stunning victory over Germany, a four-time World Cup champion.

That’s nothing - a bunch of them stayed and cleaned up after an earlier match Japan wasn’t even involved in.

Try and figure out the Bulls - they hit rock bottom, lose at home to Orlando, Lavine and Donovan feuding, seem totally tanked.  Then go out and beat Boston and Milwaukee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 24, 2022, 02:59:11 am
The Bulls lose left and right and then beat the Celtics and Bucks back-to-back. Confounding.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 24, 2022, 10:34:13 am
There is some comfort in seeing how solid the Bulls can be when they're at their best.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 24, 2022, 09:58:26 pm
If Kiffin does leave, I hope to god he takes his OC and DC with him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 24, 2022, 10:00:08 pm
I just watched the game and thought about you. Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 24, 2022, 10:18:30 pm
Just more typical SEC officiating…how do you review an inadvertent whistle and a play that never happened?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on November 24, 2022, 10:32:39 pm
I would have been pissed but Miss. State didnt score so it didnt effect the outcome.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 24, 2022, 10:58:45 pm
The lost time made a difference.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 29, 2022, 05:13:49 pm
(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/307522090_206474918401039_5431069500018076538_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=e3f864&_nc_ohc=43rU_YjX8FQAX-M5faM&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=00_AfCwVQF-mrJGiZ6ZRXb_wKMeQYsAc5DN6VOVPYKx4MANTQ&oe=638C2EC4)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 29, 2022, 05:15:15 pm
Great win for the US today, and hopefully Pulisic is OK.  Also nice to see Zimmerman bounce back from the penalty against Wales and come up pretty clutch when he subbed in today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 29, 2022, 07:08:48 pm
Pelvic contusion?  What is that?  He busted his balls?  Pain.  I'm in pain.  Can't walk.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 30, 2022, 05:13:56 am
No joking matter if he can't go against The Netherlands.  Especially with Berhalter leaving almost all of his best attackers on the bench Pulisic is hugely important if we're going to have a chance at an upset.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 01, 2022, 11:40:59 am
https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2022/12/01/the-bulls-are-at-a-crossroads-whether-they-admit-it-or-not/

Good assessment of the Bulls, but I'm not sure that management has a solution as long as Reinsdorf remains the owner.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 03, 2022, 01:50:41 pm
If Alabama winds up making the playoff, that will be such a ripoff and a travesty.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 03, 2022, 03:42:10 pm
It wouldnt shock me if they win it all if they do get in.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 03, 2022, 09:52:41 pm
Deion Sanders to Colorado.

I bet he'll be successful there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 03, 2022, 10:24:04 pm
https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2022/12/01/the-bulls-are-at-a-crossroads-whether-they-admit-it-or-not/

Good assessment of the Bulls, but I'm not sure that management has a solution as long as Reinsdorf remains the owner.

Ball is still crocked, so this version of the rebuild is already a failed state.  Reinsdof is a huge problem but what they have clearly isn't going to work.  Time to blow it up and pray the ping pong balls get you into the top four and you can use the pick.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 04, 2022, 08:23:07 am
They won't blow it up.  Reinsdorf is perfectly happy to have a team competing for the play-in as long as people pay to watch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 04, 2022, 08:36:44 am
That may be aiming too high for this group.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 04, 2022, 10:28:56 am
The Blackhawks seem to be doing their tank quite well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 04, 2022, 10:29:27 am
Not last night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 04, 2022, 10:33:15 am
The Blackhawks seem to be doing their tank quite well.

Who cares?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 04, 2022, 10:34:47 am
They are still third in the reverse standings. The guys they signed seem to have some trade value and if Toews and Kane agree to a trade the roster will be horrible.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 04, 2022, 05:40:24 pm
Kane hasn't done anything this season and Toews not much more. There are at least two teams demonstrably worse. They'll need a lot of luck to get Bedard or Fantilli.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 04, 2022, 06:06:58 pm
Looks like the Bulls have packed it in for the year too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on December 05, 2022, 07:40:19 am
Just found this on the Athletic, and wanted to share…it’s just a great piece…

https://theathletic.com/3962665/2022/12/05/tony-reali-around-the-horn-espn/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 05, 2022, 09:43:57 am
Great article.  Thanks, Dave.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 05, 2022, 06:50:12 pm
Kane hasn't done anything this season and Toews not much more. There are at least two teams demonstrably worse. They'll need a lot of luck to get Bedard or Fantilli.

Even if they have the worst record, you still need luck to get the #1.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 05, 2022, 08:21:23 pm
Even if they have the worst record, you still need luck to get the #1.

Right, but the better your record the more luck you need.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 05, 2022, 08:23:30 pm
I've enjoyed a number of their games.  They are playing a physical style and giving strong effort.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 06, 2022, 11:23:21 am
You have a high tolerance for pain, Play. They are now last in the NHL in goals after being in the top three through the first nine games.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 06, 2022, 12:26:44 pm
The Bulls are more disappointing.  By far.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 06, 2022, 08:11:53 pm
Oh sure, because the Bulls looked like a very good team on paper.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 08, 2022, 12:24:24 pm
Is anyone else thinking that the transfer portal in college football is out of control?  I think players should have options, but some of these guys are ridiculous.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 08, 2022, 01:20:29 pm
Its part of the game now.

Im used to it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 10, 2022, 08:44:58 pm
113 in 3 quarters against a leggy, Luka-less Mavs, LOL.  15-25 from 3.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 11, 2022, 02:45:50 pm
Woj says Knicks are interested in LaVine, send him off ASAP. kick this rebuild off.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 11, 2022, 03:36:57 pm
Depends on what you get back.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 12, 2022, 10:05:50 am
Things arent looking great for Mike Leach.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on December 12, 2022, 11:00:51 am
Things arent looking great for Mike Leach.

Details, please.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 12, 2022, 11:15:50 am
Massive heart attack.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 13, 2022, 08:38:00 am
Mike Leach has died.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 18, 2022, 11:45:36 am
I'm not a soccer fan, but this match is really something.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 18, 2022, 11:49:12 am
I'd rather be mowing the yard.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 18, 2022, 11:56:03 am
Not ideal to have a championship decided on penalty kicks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 18, 2022, 11:59:57 am
Maybe the best soccer match I’ve ever seen. I know folks hate penalty kicks. But it was something else drama wise. France wouldn’t quit. Lost due to a lack of strikers at the end.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 18, 2022, 12:06:27 pm
Sudden death would have yielded the same outcome and would have been much more dramatic, IMO.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 18, 2022, 01:39:33 pm
No way. You don’t have a France comeback in overtime… if Argentina wins on a sudden death. I do think you can edit to add time for a SD. Before penalty kicks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 18, 2022, 09:33:07 pm
The Bulls gave up 150 points today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 18, 2022, 09:37:29 pm
I think DeRozan wants out.  Can you blame him?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 18, 2022, 09:44:35 pm
The Bulls gave up 150 points today.
  Reminds me of the old line when some Texas team was rolling up big wins..."Hey, they scored 144 today."  "Did they win?"
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 19, 2022, 05:30:25 am
It's time to blow it up.  And, sadly, to fire Billy - they've clearly quit on him.  Whether it's his fault or not who knows, but when a team quits on a coach he can't avoid responsibility.

The problem with tanking is if we finish outside the top 4 we give up the pick to Orlando.  If you trade DeRozon, Vooch and Lavine you could probably get like 6 or 7 first rounders, but they'd likely be from playoff teams.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 20, 2022, 04:50:17 pm
Inevitably, the locker room drama has begun.  There’s talk of Lavine (who’s played like a scrub all season) being “dissatisfied with the direction of the franchise”.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 20, 2022, 05:07:26 pm
Oy.

https://twitter.com/bn_bulls/status/1605337922214961152?s=61&t=B_42WJoOT-eBOYneNqSvvQ

Remember that K.C. is the mouthpiece for ownership, too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on December 23, 2022, 10:19:20 am
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35304457/nfl-sunday-ticket-headed-youtube-2023-season

After 23 years of MLB Extra Innings on DirecTV, I've become very used to scheduling games to be recorded, zapping commercials, backing up to see a play again, flipping back and forth with another game, and pausing the action.

If MLB Extra Innings goes to YouTube I guess I'll have to subscribe to Marquee if that is still available.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 23, 2022, 09:03:39 pm
Somehow the Bulls managed to find something at the depths of their meltdown and have now won three in a row to stave off the fire sale.  Zach looks motivated (but it should never have taken this long and being confronted in the locker room for that to happen).

4 turnovers for the Bulls tonight.  I'm not sure I ever remember an NBA team having that few TOs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 24, 2022, 07:39:04 pm
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35304457/nfl-sunday-ticket-headed-youtube-2023-season

After 23 years of MLB Extra Innings on DirecTV, I've become very used to scheduling games to be recorded, zapping commercials, backing up to see a play again, flipping back and forth with another game, and pausing the action.

If MLB Extra Innings goes to YouTube I guess I'll have to subscribe to Marquee if that is still available.

MLB already has a digital app and has never been exclusive to just DirectTV.  NFL wanted to get a digital presence and that is why they moved it to YouTube TV after failing to get a deal worked out with Apple.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 30, 2022, 08:34:21 pm
Im the first one to tell you bowl games dont mean **** but it sure would feel good to beat Clemson.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 30, 2022, 11:01:30 pm
Yeah that was a great win tonight. 👍
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 30, 2022, 11:02:24 pm
Hell of a year.

Cant imagine anybody bitching about this season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 31, 2022, 04:35:52 pm
My favorite college football teams are any team playing Alabama, Michigan,  or Ohio State. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 31, 2022, 06:17:21 pm
Mine's Tennessee and anybody playing Alabama or Florida.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 31, 2022, 07:14:43 pm
Eventually people are gonna figure out that the Big 10 is overrated as hell.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 31, 2022, 07:15:13 pm
Georgia's getting ready to prove my point.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on December 31, 2022, 07:25:30 pm
Georgia's getting ready to prove my point.

Ohio State is going to get stomped like a narc at a biker rally.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on December 31, 2022, 08:27:57 pm
I promise my feelings wont be hurt if Georgia does lose though. Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 31, 2022, 10:18:58 pm
Eventually people are gonna figure out that the Big 10 is overrated as hell.
Georgia better get its a$$ in gear.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on December 31, 2022, 10:32:31 pm
Alabama showed everyone that they are a top 2 team, regardless of playoffs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 31, 2022, 10:36:02 pm
There won't be much second guessing once the expansion hits.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 31, 2022, 11:03:51 pm
Two really entertaining games today.   And two of my hate list teams lost.  :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 31, 2022, 11:05:06 pm
Some atrocious play-calling on that set of downs before the FG miss. Had opportunity to get much closer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 31, 2022, 11:12:10 pm
TCU got screwed on one call and almost another.  That one roughing the passer call was horrible.  The refs discussed it for some time before calling it.  Hey, if it takes you that long because you're not sure, pick up the flag.  Then the one targeting call, once again discussion and going to replay.  I thought TCU was going to get shafted again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on January 01, 2023, 08:01:41 am
Was that because it was an SEC ref crew?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on January 01, 2023, 08:12:45 am
They played Michigan.

What did that have to do with it?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on January 02, 2023, 08:35:55 pm
Things dont look good in Cincinnati.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 03, 2023, 03:41:24 am
The Bulls blew a 21-pt lead in Cleveland, giving up 71 points to Donovan Mitchell in the process.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 04, 2023, 09:45:10 am
CBJ, just checking this with you.  A few years back, infrequently, thankfully, a young baseball player would get hit in the chest and die.  As they get older, players learn to turn away from the ball instead of into it, but younger players panic and open up.  Is that what happened to Damar Hamlin?  He got hit in the chest when he made the tackle, then collapsed. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 04, 2023, 07:32:07 pm
That is the theory that makes the most sense to me, but it is just speculation.

It isn’t so much that as guys get older they get better avoiding blows to chest.  The most common positions for this to happen in Baseball is pitchers and catchers.  You need to be it in just the right place, with the right amount of force as the heart is contracting at the right fraction of a second.  Football is even rarer for this to happen because the force gets spread out on hits.  There is video of Chris Pronger taking a hockey puck to the chest early in his career and having it happen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 05, 2023, 12:45:04 am
The Bulls just make no sense.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 05, 2023, 01:48:51 am
Indeed. First in the East at the break last year and almost winless against top teams.  Now out of the playoffs and 6-1 against the top four in the conference.

Worth noting that for all their late game blunders, the refs cost the Bulls both Cleveland games by the league’s own estimation.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 06, 2023, 07:47:52 pm
Bulls had two guys (Laviine 19, Williams 16) score 35 in the 3rd quarter against Philly.  That's pretty wild.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on January 06, 2023, 07:54:43 pm
About time they got something out of Williams.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 06, 2023, 08:18:46 pm
If you can figure out this Bulls team, cold fusion should be no problem for you.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 07, 2023, 09:08:44 am
The Paw starting to blossom?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2023, 09:43:43 am
I’m not going to buy into that yet. Two good games in a row is nice, but his season numbers are right in line with his meh career averages.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 08, 2023, 07:07:10 pm
The Bears found a way to get the #1 pick in a draft with no franchise players, at least on paper.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on January 08, 2023, 07:08:09 pm
Try not to be ignorant.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 09, 2023, 09:03:59 pm
The national title game is a straight up butt whooping.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on January 10, 2023, 09:26:57 pm
SEC is still king.

Tennessee would have beat TCU.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on January 10, 2023, 09:27:45 pm
Word is WWE has been sold to the Saudi's as I go to bed.

If it's good rasslin Ill watch it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 14, 2023, 11:33:51 pm
Ja Morant isn't human.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1614439270994919424
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on January 15, 2023, 10:12:18 am
He’s so much fun to watch. I thank the Pelicans every day for taking Zion.

This past Wednesday night, I sat on the floor for an NBA game for the first time when the Grizz hosted the Spurs. Two things stood out to me…

1) how fast the game was when watching from that vantage point

2) how much faster Ja was than everyone else
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on January 20, 2023, 12:59:28 pm
Ill die a UT fan but Im feeling what Prime Time is doing...

https://twitter.com/DeionSanders/status/1616266126169870338?t=2gcck505JMO47aksMqrjug&s=19
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 21, 2023, 09:39:51 pm
Blackhawks doing their best to ruin their chances of getting Bedard.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on January 28, 2023, 11:17:39 am
60 degrees and sunny in good ol' East Tennessee.

Time to go birdie huntin.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 08, 2023, 08:50:45 pm
It’s being credibly reported that the Bulls are going after Westbrook after he’s bought out.  I can only laugh.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 08, 2023, 08:58:48 pm
One of the most amazing steaks in sports was snapped tonight when the UConn women's basketball team lost consecutive games for the first time in 30 years, spanning more than 1,000 games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on February 09, 2023, 05:19:08 am
And nobody watched it to see it happen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 09, 2023, 06:03:44 am
Not really true and a strange non-sequitur regardless. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 09, 2023, 03:41:54 pm
Not really true and a strange non-sequitur regardless. 

Consider the source.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 09, 2023, 04:46:42 pm
The Bulls were one of two teams that did nothing at the deadline - the other being Cleveland (who added Mitchell in the summer, among other moves).

What a sad joke of a franchise this is.  Why would anyone agree to work for Reinsdorf?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 09, 2023, 07:58:41 pm
Charles summed it up best at halftime tonight.  "The Bulls are an embarrassment".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 11, 2023, 06:10:16 pm
It's a measure of how far gone the Bulls are that adding Westbrook seems like a good idea.  He's a complete cretin, a clubhouse disease in making.  But they're mediocre and listless, and either by some 5% miracle he clicks with Billy again and plays like an all-star, or it completely blows up in their face and improves their chances to keep their top-4 protected pick.  Since they refuse to pick a lane, both are preferable to doing nothing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 13, 2023, 09:20:57 pm
Not that anyone should care at this point, but the Bulls are a complete dumpster fire.  3-21 from 3, LOL.  Roster construction this horrid almost defies credulity.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 13, 2023, 09:29:20 pm
I’m sitting at Bridgestone Arena watching the Predators lose to the awful Arizona Coyotes, so I can definitely relate.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on February 13, 2023, 09:33:18 pm
Are you the only one there JR?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 14, 2023, 12:44:08 pm
Are you the only one there JR?

Actually the Preds still draw great crowds in spite of being a team whose goal it seems has now become to try to sneak into the 8th playoff spot every year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 14, 2023, 01:52:33 pm
The Browns owners are trying to buy the Bucks.  If they want to add another loser to their inventory, why aren't they going after the Bulls?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 18, 2023, 08:00:03 pm
Tiger played really well today.  It was nice to see.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 18, 2023, 10:15:43 pm
Tiger played really well today.  It was nice to see.

He may want to avoid further attempts at humor though.  Never been his strong suit.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on February 18, 2023, 10:27:10 pm
Only snowflake virgins had a problem with it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 19, 2023, 03:17:23 am
Thanks, point proved.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 20, 2023, 11:31:51 am
I actually didn't know Dansby Swanson's wife was on the USWNT until today.  She scored the only goal for the US in yesterday's game in Nashville.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on February 20, 2023, 11:48:03 am
Nobody else knew either JR.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 20, 2023, 08:49:34 pm
Nobody in your world, I’m sure.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on February 20, 2023, 09:11:57 pm
You're right Deeg.

Thankfully there's not a ton of butch lesbians around these parts.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 20, 2023, 09:29:06 pm
Hey, it’s soccer and women, two categories for which you have utter contempt.  Not a surprise you’d pretend it doesn’t exist.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on February 21, 2023, 01:12:43 pm
Alabama needs to adjust Brandon Miller's assist numbers...

https://www.al.com/news/2023/02/darius-miles-texted-brandon-miller-to-bring-gun-used-to-kill-jamea-jonae-harris-police-testify.html?utm_campaign=aldotcomSports_sf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 21, 2023, 03:48:49 pm
If the Hunter Elliott rumors are true, it’s gonna be tough for Ole Miss to get back to Omaha…
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on February 21, 2023, 05:12:26 pm
If the Hunter Elliott rumors are true, it’s gonna be tough for Ole Miss to get back to Omaha…

???
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 21, 2023, 06:52:15 pm
Elbow pain, MRI today…still nothing said publicly…
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 21, 2023, 09:09:15 pm
Dusty, you were giving me a hard time about nobody showing up for Preds games, but WWE’s Sheamus has seats on the glass for tonight’s game.   He actually lives in Nashville.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 21, 2023, 09:17:53 pm
No, you can't be right.  He lives in Ireland.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 21, 2023, 09:42:08 pm
And the Preds blow a two goal lead in the final minute. Sheamus needs to go brogue kick our coach and GM.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 21, 2023, 10:33:30 pm
You think that's bad. The Blackhawks have rallied in the last minute twice to steal 4 points in the last week in their continued attempt to lose out on a generational talent.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on February 22, 2023, 07:20:37 am
Im truly playing JR and I think you know that.

Some here dont though.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 22, 2023, 08:40:18 am
Guttman might be the real deal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 22, 2023, 08:44:54 am
Im truly playing JR and I think you know that

Oh yeah totally get it sir. I think you'd like hockey if you gave it a chance.  Preds games are fun even if we're usually just always trying to sneak into the last playoff spot every year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 22, 2023, 08:46:31 am
You think that's bad. The Blackhawks have rallied in the last minute twice to steal 4 points in the last week in their continued attempt to lose out on a generational talent.

Heck, I've give my right arm and my right leg just to see the Predators have one close to elite offensive player in my lifetime.  We've never had that since Day 1 of the franchise.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on February 22, 2023, 09:11:56 am
Ive tried to watch hockey and just cant get into it.

Truth is Im so busy now I can hardly watch what I want to.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 22, 2023, 01:08:03 pm
Watching hockey on TV and attending a hockey game are two very different things.
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Post by: JeffH on February 22, 2023, 01:09:07 pm
Watching hockey on TV and attending a hockey game are two very different things.

More so than in any other sport.
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Post by: Deeg on February 22, 2023, 04:51:52 pm
Yeah, for sure.  Especially at the old Chicago Stadium with that organ and the crowd cranking sound at unspeakable volumes.
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Post by: Chris27 on February 28, 2023, 05:50:04 pm
The Patrick Kane era in Chicago is over.

This seemingly inept new front office got absolutely nothing for him in return.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 28, 2023, 07:35:41 pm
The inept front office had 3 first rounders last year, 2 the next three years and the possibility that Kane returns another first rounder.  The prospect pool has gone from horrible to top 5 in 1 year. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 28, 2023, 08:41:54 pm
Dumping assets leads to draft picks. They got fleeced in the DeBrincat trade and in the Kane deal. You'll find almost nobody around the league who disagrees with that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 28, 2023, 09:40:35 pm
They got a defensemen that looks pretty impressive and made the team worse to tank.  I would have liked more for both Kane and Debricant, sure.

Richardson seems like a pretty solid hire as a coach.  They have a ton of draft capital, ownership that is willing to eat money, and a ton of cap space in a flat cap.

He turned a horrible trade by Bowman into a second round pick. Got a ton for Hagel.  His first draft is looking pretty excellent.  The Ducks and Arizona have dominated the Blackhawks the last two nights and after Domi gets dealt this team may not get another points the rest of the season.  If they can luck into Bedard or Fantilli and have another high draft pick next year the future will be pretty bright.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on March 03, 2023, 12:07:35 pm
She stole half a million dollars from him all the while cheating on him. Its in the court transcripts...

https://twitter.com/JakeCrain_/status/1631488335574097920?t=E3Us7p1eFn99YXiq9Q4fzQ&s=19
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 03, 2023, 05:06:42 pm

I would have liked more for both Kane and Debricant, sure.


Screwing up your two most valuable trade assets seems pretty relevant. Beyond that, if they trade Kane and Domi much earlier they likely already have 10 fewer points plus more in return.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on March 03, 2023, 08:38:38 pm

Screwing up your two most valuable trade assets seems pretty relevant. Beyond that, if they trade Kane and Domi much earlier they likely already have 10 fewer points plus more in return.

They couldn’t trade Kane until he said it was ok to trade him and reading the Athletic’s account Kane had zero interest in helping the Blackhawks get a better return.

Debricant you were looking for maybe a prospect or some extra draft picks.  Korchinski seems to be a really great pick so far. 

Domi was always getting traded later because he was the guy you went after you missed on your primary targets.  The Blackhawks are 1 point ahead of the Columbus and the Blackhawks are barely putting on an AHL team at this point.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 04, 2023, 02:12:52 am
The Blackhawks are 1 point ahead of the Columbus and the Blackhawks are barely putting on an AHL team at this point.

Chicago has 1-2 games in hand on nearly every team around them and are only 6 points from being 6th. They don't steal 8 points in a 5-game stretch they're comfortably last. Those 8 points were almost entirely due to Kane and Domi.

 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on March 18, 2023, 09:19:30 pm
Down goes Duke.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on March 18, 2023, 10:05:41 pm
https://www.si.com/nhl/2023/03/18/sharks-goalie-james-reimer-boycott-pride-night
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on March 19, 2023, 02:21:45 pm
Just bought me a Scotty Cameron Newport 2 putter.

Dont ask what it cost.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on April 04, 2023, 09:19:46 pm
https://twitter.com/SInow/status/1643406883695349762?t=xgQhtY8mZd3V1LyKZRv8Nw&s=19
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on April 04, 2023, 09:35:18 pm
Just bought me a Scotty Cameron Newport 2 putter.

Dont ask what it cost.

I have an old school Ping Anser. I have two, in fact. I’ll never use another putter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on April 04, 2023, 09:43:47 pm
I just like to collect golf clubs. I guess its something Ill always do. I only keep up me and my son a set. When I get something new Ill trade in the old club at a golf store here in town for store credit.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on April 08, 2023, 07:41:11 pm
Bought a Cobra LTD MAX driver a couple days ago.

Currently have that driver,two Cobra Fly Z fairway woods,Cobra SZ irons,Cobra Greg Norman sand wedge,Odyssey chipper,and a Scotty Cameron Newport Select 2 putter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on April 09, 2023, 04:37:59 pm
Phil Mickelson's still got it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 11, 2023, 08:52:56 pm
The Blackhawks finished off their chances of going into the draft lottery #1 tonight. It was a season-long effort to pull that off.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 11, 2023, 11:50:22 pm
I have a lot of respect for the way the Hawks have played this season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 11, 2023, 11:50:37 pm
The Bulls on the other hand ................
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 12, 2023, 01:42:54 am
It's nice they played hard. It would be far better to get Bedard.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 13, 2023, 04:28:14 am
I'd sure like to know why the Bulls can't play with that kind of intensity all the time.  Even there they only did it for a half, but what a half (especially for Zach).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 13, 2023, 11:53:04 pm
Blackhawks finish one point in front of Anaheim for fewest in the league. Barring a miracle they have screwed themselves out of a generational talent.

 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 13, 2023, 11:57:44 pm
I haven’t followed hockey much since I moved to Japan, but isn’t Fantilli considered by some scouts to be as good a prospect as Bedard?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 13, 2023, 11:59:58 pm
Not that I'm aware of.

Fantilli is really good. Bedard is spectacular and put up stat rates not seen in the WHL since the early 80's when scoring was much higher.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on April 14, 2023, 07:08:23 am
Blackhawks finish one point in front of Anaheim for fewest in the league. Barring a miracle they have screwed themselves out of a generational talent.
Anaheim has a 25% chance, the Hawks have a 13% chance.  The odds weren’t good in the first place and I’d hardly say wining is into miracle territory.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 14, 2023, 07:23:54 am
Anaheim has a 25% chance, the Hawks have a 13% chance.  The odds weren’t good in the first place and I’d hardly say wining is into miracle territory.

Double the chance isn't a big difference to you? Also, the Hawks are likely to end up with less than a 13% chance after Columbus' game today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on April 14, 2023, 10:19:32 am
I think getting the worst record would have guaranteed one of Bedard/Fantilli/Carlson or Michkov (depending on the preference) as the biggest miss.  The lottery is always a crap shot and if the worst team wins it will be the first time ever that the worst team has won 3 times in a row.    Bedard is by far the best player, but part of me wonders if Fantilli might be better for a team.

Luke Richardson seems to be able to take bad players and get them playing well.  It will be interesting as some of the younger guys start coming up how he does. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on April 14, 2023, 11:47:42 am
Lets talk about something more interesting like me mowing my yard.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 14, 2023, 11:49:21 am
Or wrestling.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on April 14, 2023, 01:53:12 pm
Double the chance isn't a big difference to you? Also, the Hawks are likely to end up with less than a 13% chance after Columbus' game today.
Yes, it a big difference but it’s not the difference between screwing themselves out of a generational talent and needing a miracle to get it.  They went from unlikely to less likely.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 14, 2023, 03:38:19 pm
Yes, it a big difference but it’s not the difference between screwing themselves out of a generational talent and needing a miracle to get it.  They went from unlikely to less likely.

They just their chances by at least half.

We'll see which slot wins the lottery.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 14, 2023, 03:38:55 pm
Lets talk about something more interesting like me mowing my yard.

Unlike those fascinating posts about the golf clubs you recently bought.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dihard on April 14, 2023, 06:10:40 pm
Bahaha!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 14, 2023, 08:03:19 pm
So Columbus is going to lose and the Blackhawks will go into the lottery 3rd.

Should end well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 14, 2023, 10:55:04 pm
Mercy killing for the Bulls.  Makes it harder for AKME to play the "continuity" card again, if nothing else.

Almost no positives for the Bulls this season, but not selling low on White is one.  He's improved tremendously on defense and turned himself into a good all-around player, and with a skill set the Bulls are terribly weak in.  Gotta find a way to keep him around. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 14, 2023, 11:32:46 pm
The Mavericks were fined $750,000 for tanking the Bulls game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on April 28, 2023, 05:51:31 am
Poor Will Levis.

Us SEC fans knew he wasnt ****.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on May 08, 2023, 07:18:06 pm
Blackhawks picking 1 or 2.  Weeks said the Boue Jackets dropped to 3, but didn’t show the card
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on May 08, 2023, 07:22:35 pm
BEDARD!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 08, 2023, 07:41:56 pm
Hope he proves to be as good as advertised.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 08, 2023, 07:45:15 pm
The Hawks tank worked out after all.  Good for them!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 08, 2023, 08:35:59 pm
Just now regaining consciousness after fainting.....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest405 on May 08, 2023, 09:28:48 pm
Over some dude who could walk down the street in 99% of America unnoticed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 08, 2023, 09:35:23 pm
I just wish the Predators could figure out how to get a franchise scorer one of these days.  The joys of always being in the middle of the pack every single year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on May 08, 2023, 09:46:38 pm
Wan’t Harper walking down Michigan Ave and not getting recognized?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 08, 2023, 10:22:56 pm
Bedard's 17. How many athletes would be recognized walking down the street at 17? LeBron wouldn't even fit in that category.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 08, 2023, 10:58:22 pm
Bedard's 17. How many athletes would be recognized walking down the street at 17? LeBron wouldn't even fit in that category.

Think about who you’re arguing with.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 08, 2023, 11:14:22 pm
I actually wonder how many people would immediately recognize Bryce Young or CJ Stroud if they aren't living in Tuscaloosa, Columbus, Charlotte or Houston.  I doubt I would for instance.

Unless you're one of the mega athletes in commercials all the time like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, LeBron James, Patrick Mahomes, Tiger Woods, etc. is anyone going to be that instantly recognizable unless you're a fan of that team?  Especially if you're in a sport where you're wearing a helmet all of the time?

In Nashville, probably the most instantly recognizable Titans players would be Derrick Henry, Taylor Lewan, and Eddie George.  Aside from that, I bet the top players from the Predators like Filip Forsberg, Roman Josi, Juuse Saros or Pekke Rinne probably get stopped almost as often and maybe even more so in Nashville than most other Titans.  PK Subban in his time with the Predators definitely could compete with most Titans players for recognizability.  Walker Zimmerman from Nashville SC would probably even compete with a lot of Titans players for getting stopped. 

Once it gets away from the most instantly recognizable national superstar athletes, it probably boils down more to being a fan of the local teams and being very familiar with the players on the roster more than anything else.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 17, 2023, 11:01:31 pm
I have tried to maintain my allegiance to the Bulls while still rooting for the Warriors as my secondary interest.  But with the apparent incompetence of ownership and management of the Bulls, and their evident interest in Brandon Miller, I'm on the brink of giving them up.  I did that many years ago with the Bears when I moved out to the Bay Area but I've maintained my support of the Bulls and Blackhawks.  I attended Bulls games in Chicago when the team was founded and the Jordan years were just great.  But I get no joy from following them now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 17, 2023, 11:03:59 pm
I totally get being done with Reinsdorf and his parade of yes-men, but I don’t think the Miller stuff is serious.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 17, 2023, 11:11:15 pm
I haven't followed it that closely but I was concerned when I first heard about it.  Perhaps his involvement was just peripheral.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 18, 2023, 12:46:26 am
I haven't followed it that closely but I was concerned when I first heard about it.  Perhaps his involvement was just peripheral.

What do the Bulls have that would interest Portland at the #3 pick?  Unless they’re trading Lavine for him it doesn’t make sense.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 18, 2023, 09:34:55 am
The Bulls are screwed as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 21, 2023, 09:25:46 pm
Maybe they wouldn't be if they had a player like this Butler guy. Wonder how ones ends up with a player like that?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 21, 2023, 09:40:24 pm
Maybe ask the Wolves or the Knicks?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 22, 2023, 01:03:29 am
Sucks to see LIV win a major, but Michael Block sure is a great story.  46 year-old club pro, paired with Rory on the final day, dunks a hole-in-one on 15 and finishes top-15.  Pretty unbelievable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 22, 2023, 05:33:28 am
That up and down on 18 was epic.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2023, 10:02:46 pm
Someone should probably check in at Bulls HQ, as there may have been a fatal gas leak months ago and no one has noticed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2023, 10:36:11 pm
Bulls did something!  Bulls did something!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 13, 2023, 07:00:10 pm
The Bulls look like a disaster in the making, but they may have stolen one with Phillips.  He’s got first round talent.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 16, 2023, 03:53:50 pm
Incredible birdie, birdie finish by McIlroy in brutal weather conditions.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 16, 2023, 10:37:50 pm
Nashville SC is hosting the Leagues Cup championship game against Lionel Messi and Inter Miami on Saturday, and the worst of the worst tickets are going for close to $1,000.  I'm pretty sure you could probably have seen Messi for a bad seat in Paris for like $40 a few months ago.  That guy is doing wonders for MLS right now.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nashvillesc/2023/08/16/nashville-sc-vs-inter-miami-tickets-skyrocket-lionel-messi/70604236007/ 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on September 24, 2023, 03:06:31 pm
Dolphins have scored 70 points so far today.

First time an NFL team has done that since 1966.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 09, 2023, 09:33:29 pm
It’s not often you see players come along that can genuinely change their sport, but Webanyama may be one of them.  We’ve literally never seen anything like him.  Pre-injury Arvydas Sabonis’ skill set was off the charts for a guy his size, but Webanyama’s agility, handles, and three-point shot are unique for a guy well over seven feet tall.  If he can stay healthy he can be a literal game-changer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 14, 2023, 05:09:12 am
I don't think people realize just how ridiculous this guy is.

https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1713007079340790190?s=20
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 21, 2023, 08:25:36 am
Steph takes the opening tip for GS against Wembanyama.  Predictable results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WbxaX96Dfk
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on October 21, 2023, 06:18:00 pm
Theater.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 25, 2023, 09:03:51 pm
In other news, the Bulls still suck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 28, 2023, 04:17:05 am
Man, how bad would the Bulls be without Alex Caruso?

Some contender ought to give up a ton for him if the Bulls blow it up, as they should. He could win the right team a championship.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 08, 2023, 09:58:20 pm
Free Alex Caruso
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 30, 2023, 02:51:27 pm
Does it somehow benefit Reinsdorf if the Bulls do poorly?  He seems to be a master at how to run an organization into the ground.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 01, 2023, 05:55:44 pm
Bulls 5-14, in the toilet.  Zach and DeRozon out, they beat Milwaukee (13-5).  Coincidence?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 04, 2023, 12:02:47 am
Since we saw yesterday a #8 team beat a #1, I can't wait until it's an 8 team tournament.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 18, 2023, 09:05:43 pm
Looks like Coby might be a dude.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 18, 2023, 10:55:31 pm
Who knew that the secret to improved play would be having LaVine off the court?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 18, 2023, 11:15:02 pm
Based on the way he started the season, quite a lot of people.  Certainly not doing his trade value any favors.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 27, 2023, 05:43:35 pm
Travis Kelce says Chiefs' offensive woes 'not just one guy'

Gee, Travis, you're saying you're playing like dog sh!t.  Hmm.  About when did that start...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 27, 2023, 06:04:44 pm
When they made the former Bears coach the OC?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 27, 2023, 07:04:39 pm
I think SHE has been a distraction.to the whole team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 27, 2023, 07:35:21 pm
When they made the former Bears coach the OC?

Exactly.  Blaming Taylor Swift for all this is hilariously misogynist and silly.  We all know where the real blame lies.

And this is from a guy whose fantasy season was sunk by what Nagy has done to Mahomes…
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 27, 2023, 08:56:36 pm
No, no, it's Swifty.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 27, 2023, 09:10:15 pm
They’ll shake it off eventually.  Just sounds like there’s a lot of bad blood going around. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on December 28, 2023, 08:25:17 am
Anyone who thinks an off-field relationship of one player can affect everyone and everything on the field is delusional.  It's all talk show radio and media fodder.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: VJ on December 28, 2023, 08:51:48 am
They’ll shake it off eventually.

It's on my spotify list.  I know, TMI...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 12, 2024, 07:54:42 pm
If nothing else good comes out of this season, as least the Bulls found out that Coby is a legit NBA starter.  He's grown tremendously.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 12, 2024, 08:03:45 pm
I know the Warriors are a mess, but the Bulls looked absolutely tremendous in that 2nd quarter - 18-23 from the field and 45 points.  69% shooting in the first half (62% from 3) with 20 assists in the half.  Coby 21 points on 9 FGA.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 12, 2024, 08:57:16 pm
And on cue, the bulls gets punked 48-20 in the 3rd.  What a dysfunctional team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 12, 2024, 09:43:30 pm
Maybe that catastrophic second half was payback for the utterly classless booing of Jerry Krause in front of his widow at the halftime ceremony.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1745996386544320819
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 12, 2024, 10:00:44 pm
Playing the Bulls was just what the Warriors needed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 12, 2024, 10:10:41 pm
Hard to overstate how great the Bulls looked in that second quarter - unselfish, ball movement off the charts.  Then back to iso ball and stagnation.  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on January 13, 2024, 08:44:52 am
The Krause booing was completely uncalled for, regardless of people’s opinions of him after the dismantling of the dynasty or his comments at the time.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on January 13, 2024, 08:48:56 am
.
The Krause booing was completely uncalled for, regardless of people’s opinions of him after the dismantling of the dynasty or his comments at the time.

Yes.  Despicable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 13, 2024, 09:04:36 am
The Last Dance was really a propaganda piece for MJ to make sure his version of events was seen as the truth.  Every good story needs a villain, and Krause was the sort of guy who walked into that kind of abuse. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DUSTY on January 20, 2024, 10:39:17 pm
How bout them 9ers?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 21, 2024, 10:31:05 am
They were fortunate to win.  I guess the positive spin is that they proved they can come from behind late in a big game, something neither Shanahan nor Purdy has done much of.  I thought the hit on Deebo was illegal (helmet to helmet) but the refs didn't call it.  The Niners will have a tough time going all the way if Deebo is not available.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 22, 2024, 09:00:18 pm
KAT has 8:27 to score 10 points and give the NBA two 70-point scorers tonight (Embeid had 70-18-5).  I would be pretty surprised if that’s ever happened before.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 30, 2024, 08:43:03 pm
Bulls need to give Julian Phillips minutes for the rest of the season.  He’s raw, but more than just a pogo stick - the shooting form is solid, and he seems to have good basketball instincts.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DUSTY on January 30, 2024, 09:15:22 pm
He didnt do much at UT.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 31, 2024, 09:46:00 am
Tom Ricketts at least has some money to invest in the PGA Tour.

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39428003/pga-tour-finalizes-3b-deal-liv-talks-continue
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 31, 2024, 05:37:02 pm
Good to see PTR landed on his feet after the biblical pandemic financial losses.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: otto105 on February 03, 2024, 08:24:34 pm
Huh, Nagy is going to the SuperBowl.







Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 03, 2024, 09:58:36 pm
You don’t miss much, do you?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 05, 2024, 08:12:36 am
Poor Mahomes Senior.  If his son wasn't famous, his DUI probably wouldn't even make the local paper.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on February 05, 2024, 08:56:26 am
Poor Mahomes Senior.  If his son wasn't famous, his DUI probably wouldn't even make the local paper.

Well, he did pitch in the big leagues for eleven seasons.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 05, 2024, 08:58:52 am
Still don't think he'd be getting the headlines he is today.  jmo. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on February 05, 2024, 08:59:47 am
Agreed, but it would still be a story.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 08, 2024, 06:08:28 pm
Happily for the Cubs Chicago has another front office that makes Jed look active, dynamic, and positively profligate.

AKME have made one trade in 893 days (Phillips for two 2nd round picks).  No in-season trades for over 1000 days.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on February 08, 2024, 07:15:06 pm
The land of misfit toys.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 08, 2024, 08:43:03 pm
Bulls down 1 to the Memphis Hustle thru 3 in Memphis…
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DUSTY on February 16, 2024, 09:41:26 am
Oh ****...

https://youtu.be/RvGlkQKipGo?si=FYWgTHrInwlwS6uT
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 28, 2024, 10:56:37 pm
Bulls were +40 - +40! - in rebounding against Cleveland.  I don’t know what’s crazier, that or that they needed 2 OTs and a dumb foul on Allen to win the game.  When was the last time a team was +40 in rebounds in an NBA game?

How the hell do you lose to Detroit - on a back-to-back - and then come back the next next and beat Cleveland?  Only the Bulls.