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Title: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 11, 2013, 10:44:29 am
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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 11, 2013, 09:05:18 pm
I searched around a little to find a Stanley Cup preview I liked most. It's not the only site, certainly, to pick the Blackhawks, but it's the one that touches on some hockey-SABR kind of analysis to explain the pick. Here is the key section:

"Chicago finished the regular season as one of the best puck possession teams in the league, finishing second in Fenwick percentage (a measure of attempted shots that help indicate possession) and second in shot differential (plus-4.9 per game). Few teams over the past decade have been as dominant with the puck as the Blackhawks have been, and the ability to control the puck and possession is a common trait that most Stanley Cup winners have"

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/eye-on-hockey/22388535/stanley-cup-final-why-the-chicago-blackhawks-will-win-the-cup
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 12, 2013, 09:04:48 am
good one shasson... can't wait for the National Anthem by Jim and puck drop this evening...Go 'Hawks!!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 12, 2013, 12:53:59 pm
It's Hawkey night in Chicago!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 12, 2013, 02:00:24 pm
FYI,Chicago Tribune had very informative pull-out section for the Stanley Cup Final.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 12, 2013, 07:58:30 pm
Not a good first period.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 12, 2013, 08:08:07 pm
It was for Boston. At least the last 2/3rds. Hawks started out great. Better crank it up a few notches.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 12, 2013, 08:21:09 pm
Game might be over now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 12, 2013, 08:29:56 pm
Gonna tie it up here.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 12, 2013, 09:03:14 pm
As usual the PP is abysmal. Actually outplayed the Bruins that period but still come out trailing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 12, 2013, 09:26:19 pm
Took the Bruins about 20 seconds to score on their first PP of the game. That after Chara flopped as soon as a stick got between his legs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 12, 2013, 09:29:21 pm
Thing is, the way this game has gone, it feeds into the whole irrational belief that Boston is somehow riding this great surge of momentum and grit and bellyfire (hawks have many more shot attempts and shots on goal).  Losing game one isn't a death knell, but it doesn't help.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 12, 2013, 09:56:49 pm
Hawks get it to OT with two excellent periods. Came very close to getting the lead. Let's hope that doesn't haunt them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 12, 2013, 10:27:36 pm
PP for Bruins 7:52 left in 1st OT...slightly freakin...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 12, 2013, 10:38:56 pm
Hawks badly outplayed in the 1st OT. Lucky to still be playing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 13, 2013, 12:05:09 am
Ho hum, just another win.

Wow. Hockey games are ridiculous.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 13, 2013, 12:13:58 am
They have two days off but could probably use a week.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 13, 2013, 07:43:01 am
Went to bed with the Hawks down 3-1 in the third period.  Nice to wake up to see a win in the books.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 13, 2013, 07:56:34 am
Whew! game ends after midnight ...and what a game!...triple overtime and the winning goal is scored on a deflection off of Shaw's knee! I'm pretty sure there won't be a practice for either team today ::) ... looking forward to Saturday night puck drop....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 13, 2013, 08:40:29 am
I hate living on east coast time.  There's no way I would've stayed up until 1am watching that game having to get up at 5am.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 13, 2013, 08:48:41 am
I hate living on east coast time.  There's no way I would've stayed up until 1am watching that game having to get up at 5am.
Fits you could move to a different time zone or use drugs to alleviate the effects of lack of sleep ;)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 13, 2013, 09:15:21 am
lol  Thanks for the tips, Steve.  If I could move back to Colorado, I would.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 13, 2013, 09:34:16 am
Any time Fits.I got your back. ;D
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Cactus on June 13, 2013, 10:04:59 am
Mike Tirico appears to be anchoring ESPN's U.S. Open golf coverage instead of Chris Berman.  Thank you very much.

First round play has been suspended due to severe weather.  There may be a window in a short time but more rain is on the way.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on June 13, 2013, 10:08:55 am
Yeah - the stuff that blew through earlier is about 1/5th the severity of what is coming in an hour or so
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 13, 2013, 10:21:45 am
Kind of expected it to be a washout today the way things have been looking.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Cactus on June 13, 2013, 11:39:51 am
If there is any television worse than baseball rain delay coverage, it's the golf equivalent.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Cactus on June 14, 2013, 04:40:58 pm
As NBC ended their U.S. Open coverage at 4:00 P.M. Chicago time, Phil Mickelson had just hit into a narrow little water hazard and Johnny Miller said he had no stance.  ESPN picked up the telecast by showing some recorded highlights and then went to Mickelson making a putt for a par.  My TV is still in one piece but I'm not sure why.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 15, 2013, 11:11:22 am
Puck drop @ 7,NBCSN....go 'Hawks!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 15, 2013, 08:12:28 pm
'Hawks 1-0 on goal by Patrick Sharp...the 'Hawks are dominating the Bruins...19 to 4 SOG for the 'Hawks ... very impressive
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 15, 2013, 08:15:42 pm
Great first period but the Bruins are right there. Hawks didn't really take advantage.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 15, 2013, 08:23:18 pm
The disallowed goal was unfortunate bit of luck....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 15, 2013, 08:38:20 pm
Considering the talent available, the Blackhawks have the worst Power Play I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 15, 2013, 08:42:57 pm
Yeah their PP does suck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 15, 2013, 08:48:39 pm
Tie game
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on June 15, 2013, 08:48:50 pm
That's your ballgame, folks.  No recovering from that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 15, 2013, 08:59:06 pm
Goal post saves the Hawks from being down after two. And that came while on a PP.

Chances were 15-1 at one point and yet it's a dog fight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 15, 2013, 09:14:39 pm
Well this ought to be a helluva 3rd period...tense
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 15, 2013, 09:56:33 pm
Jeez, another OT!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 15, 2013, 09:59:24 pm
Missed most of 1st period. Seems like Hawks imposed their will, which meant the absurd edge in shots. Should the Toews goal have counted?
Last half of regulation Boston imposed their will -- which means no time or space for Hawks. Really, I haven't seen the Hawks' with a good shift or scoring chance in almost 2 periods.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 15, 2013, 10:02:37 pm
The ref blew the whistle too quickly for the goal to have counted even had they seen it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 15, 2013, 10:32:18 pm
Hawks deserved to lose that game. They got outplayed badly after the first period. In fact, they're quite fortunate not to be down two games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 15, 2013, 10:40:32 pm
Agree, absolutely, Chris. Boston has smothered them for long stretches (which makes the 1st period tonight so exciting yet sort of confusing)

Bollig won't play again. Hopefully Stalberg's speed will be an impact. But, no Hawks' fan can feel too good at this point.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 15, 2013, 10:49:36 pm
I fear that Boston has the karma.  Also, they just might be the better team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 15, 2013, 10:54:52 pm
The Hawks are the better team but that doesn't mean anything. Still have to win the games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 16, 2013, 08:43:30 am
While last night's loss was a downer I still believe that  the Hawks will bring home the Cup.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on June 17, 2013, 01:25:53 pm
hawks in six
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 17, 2013, 01:29:46 pm
I'm concerned that the Hawks' offense hasn't done anything against Rask. Going to be hard to keep winning 2-1 games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 17, 2013, 07:17:59 pm
I'm concerned that the Hawks' offense hasn't done anything against Rask. Going to be hard to keep winning 2-1 games.
Winning big by the 'Hawks would certainly be easier on my heart , I'll take 3 victories by one goal the rest of the series ::)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on June 17, 2013, 07:37:00 pm
What's wrong with Hossa?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 17, 2013, 08:00:52 pm
An embarrassing first period by the Blackhawks. They looked like the hockey equivalent of the Bad News Bears.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on June 17, 2013, 08:20:45 pm
Ballgame.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 17, 2013, 08:21:37 pm
Hawks being dominated, and have been for nearly four periods now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 17, 2013, 08:29:43 pm
They're sandbagging. :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on June 17, 2013, 08:43:20 pm
And the humiliation and degradation begins.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 17, 2013, 08:44:13 pm
Disgraceful display of hockey the last 4-1/2 periods.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 17, 2013, 08:52:40 pm
Boston did the same thing to Pittsburgh. The Hawks are in big trouble in this series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 17, 2013, 08:57:54 pm
Pretty bad showing by the 'Hawks tonight...they'll need a miraculous 3rd period for sure....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 17, 2013, 08:59:35 pm
I haven't seen anything that makes me believe the Hawks can win tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 17, 2013, 09:03:43 pm
Tonight?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 17, 2013, 09:44:14 pm
Ah well look forward to game 4...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 17, 2013, 09:45:19 pm
Not me. The Hawks have scored 3 legitimate goals in 13 periods. Looks bleak.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 18, 2013, 07:54:52 am
Hawks got worked over big time last night. Every phase of their game(excepting Crawford) was decidedly sub-par. Hawks were out-hustled and out-muscled in game three. Hawks won't win the physical match up with B's,  but they can step up the pursuit of the loose puck and put pucks on the net like they did in period 1 of game two.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 08:09:03 am
When a goalie is unconscious like Rask is, sometimes you can substantially outplay the other team and still lose.  When you're being outplayed, that's a highly dangerous combination.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 18, 2013, 08:29:02 am
Rask hasn't had to make a tough save in five periods. Maybe if he were tested he'd allow a goal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 18, 2013, 08:39:25 am
IMHO.Rask has been on fire for some time, agreed. Crawford has been equally powerful for quite a while.I think Rask is very quick moving side to side maybe roofin the puck stick side is the play for score or rebound opportunity. Crawford a bit vulnerable glove side.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 18, 2013, 08:48:36 am
As Chris said, Rask is good, but he hasn't really been tested -- even with the barrage in the 1st period of game 2, there weren't that many super high-quality chances. 

If old man Scottie Bowman has any magic ideas, might be a good time for Q to ask him to step up to the white board and diagram something for the powerplay.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 08:52:08 am
Rask hasn't had to make a tough save in five periods. Maybe if he were tested he'd allow a goal.

Yeah, that .946 postseason save % is definitely meaningless.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 18, 2013, 11:56:19 am
Committed Indian is a good Blackhawks' blog (in a (we-want-to-be-like-grantland-or-deadspin kind of way) and the analysis of last night was interesting. I do agree that Q did not respond well to Hossa being out. By putting Krueger and Frolik with Toews, he made sure Boston didn't need to pay attention to that line as a scoring line, and Bergeren (sp?) could focus on Kane and Sharp.

http://thecommittedindian.com/some-day-therell-be-a-cure-for-pain-hawks-0-bruins-2-bs-lead-2-1/#more-5337

With Hossa tomorrow, first 2 lines really should be something like 29/19/88 and 10/26/81. Make Boston defend 2 lines. If Hossa can't go, I'd think about going all in on speed, and putting stalberg on line 1 with 19 and 29, and 88 joins 26 and 10. or keep kane with toews and bickell, and have stalberg opposite sharp
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 18, 2013, 12:05:23 pm
I'm still trying to figure out how a show featuring Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless can draw enough viewers to stay on the air.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 18, 2013, 12:45:12 pm
I'm still trying to figure out how a show featuring Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless can draw enough viewers to stay on the air.
I gave up on that pair's show very early on. Two blowhard-know-it-all "reporters" shouting back and forth on that day's sports menu was unwatchable. The occasional drive-by reinforced my initial decision.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on June 18, 2013, 01:29:27 pm
if the hawks dont fix some things quickly, they have no chance...man, they looked AWFUL 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 18, 2013, 01:40:43 pm
I think we're underestimating the Bruins.  They are really good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 18, 2013, 02:16:17 pm
The B's are who we thought they were and we let 'em off the hook!! So if you want to crown them...then crown their ass!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 18, 2013, 10:08:01 pm
I don't think Michael Jordan would be 3 of 12 from the field through 3 quarters in a lose or go home game in the NBA Finals.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 10:25:17 pm
Nope.  But let's not use this as an excuse to rip Lebron - I don't like him, but he's basically carried the Heat this far with very little help (including from Wade).  He's certainly proved himself as a clutch player by now.

That said, go Spurs.  What an effort by the ageless Duncan - hope they can close the deal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 10:43:16 pm
Ray Allen started the 2nd half for Wade.  Of course he has 2 points in 35 minutes...

The predictable Lebron surge carried Miami all the way back, but now SA has retaken the lead with 58 seconds left.  C'mon, Spurs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 10:44:22 pm
Wow, 2 turnovers in 2 possessions for King James.  Sweet justice for good and evil.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 10:47:39 pm
Now he drains a 3 on a second-chance bucket.  Weak by the Spurs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 10:49:52 pm
Yeah - Leonard is the guy you pass the ball to?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 10:51:04 pm
LOL, another made three on an offensive rebound.  Foul Bosh, idiots!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2013, 10:53:46 pm
Oh, well. Would have been nice to see the Heat lose, but SA has no one to blame but themselves.  Missed FTs, offensive rebounds surrendered...  Generally a weak 4th from such a veteran team. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 18, 2013, 10:54:08 pm
Amazing. Two missed FT's and two threes off second chances. That after a horrendous 4-possession streak by James.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 18, 2013, 10:55:24 pm
Jesus Shuttlesworth.
Damn, that was crazy.
Hopefully it means nothing and the spurs win in OT.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 18, 2013, 11:11:56 pm
That should do it. Oh well, in another 8-10 years we won't have to look at the Heat anymore.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 19, 2013, 03:27:02 pm
Miami Heat fans who left Game 6 early try to get back into the arena after the game goes into overtime.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/miami-heat-fans-denied-reentry-after-rally/-/1637132/20627370/-/qsql1f/-/index.html (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/miami-heat-fans-denied-reentry-after-rally/-/1637132/20627370/-/qsql1f/-/index.html)

http://deadspin.com/hundreds-of-heat-fans-leave-game-6-early-a-nation-laug-514254371 (http://deadspin.com/hundreds-of-heat-fans-leave-game-6-early-a-nation-laug-514254371)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 19, 2013, 03:34:16 pm
http://youtu.be/rDngPPGBW1w
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 07:33:49 pm
The Blackhawks have put more pressure on Rask in the first 6 minutes than they did the previous 4 periods combined.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 07:35:11 pm
Better start in Boston... Hawks 1-0, scoring a shorthanded goal....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 07:46:56 pm
Horseshit officiating so far.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 07:50:53 pm
Tie game...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 07:51:10 pm
And the Hawks **** the lead away with two butchered clearing attempts. But then Boston had no business being on the PP. The refs are responsible for the tie game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 07:55:23 pm
The Hawks actually show up and control the game, and then the refs take it away in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 07:58:43 pm
Refs have given Boston all the momentum. Perhaps that was the plan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 08:36:00 pm
Toews lights the lamp...2-1
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 08:41:41 pm
Kane scores...3-1....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 08:51:04 pm
Lucic scores...3-2
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 08:54:34 pm
Kruger scores, 4-2....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 08:58:41 pm
Second goal the refs have awarded the Bruins.

It's 4-1-2 now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 08:59:56 pm
B's score a PP goal...4-3...action is fast and furious....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 09:09:00 pm
Win or lose, and it's probably lose, these officials need to be investigated. The Hawks have already had 4 legit goals stolen from them in the playoffs and now this garbage.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 09:24:55 pm
3-1 and 4-2 leads down the drain.

Thanks refs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 09:49:04 pm
5-5...this is freakin wild!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 10:02:19 pm
42 shots, 5 goals, 3 separate leads, two 2-goal leads. And they can't win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 10:14:40 pm
OT coming up...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 10:39:24 pm
Hawks Win!!! 6-5...whew! Man what a game...!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 19, 2013, 10:39:57 pm
Rask! 6 goals against. Man, I hate Boston teams.

Things are now officially interesting!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 19, 2013, 10:42:25 pm
Chara was a minus 3, Bergeren minus 2
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 10:43:27 pm
Well, the Hawks deserved to win that one. Still not confident for the series, but losing that with those calls would've been a travesty.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 19, 2013, 10:45:35 pm
Hawks outshot them 47-33. This type of loss (giving up 6 goals at home) so blows up the Boston mythology, that it will be interesting to see how they respond.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 19, 2013, 10:48:11 pm
I thought Rask was mostly excellent. 47 shots against and more high quality chances than Chicago had the previous 3 games combined. Had little to no chance on at least 4 of the goals. Can the Hawks keep getting those chances though? My guess is the Bruins will turn it back into a quicksand game on Saturday.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 19, 2013, 10:52:26 pm
After a sorry game 3 the Hawks really responded big...look forward to the return to the UC!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 20, 2013, 07:44:11 am
Impressive effort by the Hawks.  They will need to continue pressing the Bruins if they're to eke out the Cup.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 20, 2013, 07:53:11 am
Crawford will have to improve on his glove side saves.  Every single goal by the Bruins was to that side last night.

And agreed, P2.....they have to keep up the relentless approach they took last night to have any chance of winning this thing.

It's a best of three series now. GO HAWKS!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on June 20, 2013, 08:27:26 pm
It's really a privilege to be able to watch Tim Duncan play basketball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 22, 2013, 09:11:45 pm
After 2 periods Hawks 2 Bruins 0...SOG, Hawks 19, Bruins 16 , Face off wins 19 Hawks 16 Bruins, Hits 38 Bruins. 19 Hawks...3rd period coming up....Kane scored both goals by the way
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2013, 09:24:26 pm
Bruins right in the game. The Hawks' inability to even get a chance on a PP and a failed Saad breakaway haunting them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 22, 2013, 09:57:01 pm
3-1 Hawks... on to Boston...Go Hawks!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2013, 09:58:51 pm
They somehow held on but Toews might be concussed again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 22, 2013, 10:05:43 pm
Boston certainly targeted Toews' head all night, so they got what they wanted.

the next game may well be played without Toews or Bergeron. I like the Hawks' depth.  But that game is going to be a war. Kane and his magic hands will have to be the spark, again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2013, 10:15:42 pm
If it's a concussion, Toews is likely out the for any remaining games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 23, 2013, 11:37:26 am
(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/nl8VJCSsrXPbPWYP1lKhhw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0xOTU7cT04NTt3PTM1Mg--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2013-06-22/99d983ac-967d-4156-a9cb-470fcc596adc_783803732.gif)

Johnny Boychuk deserves a minimum two game suspension for his hit on Toews as both feet leave the ice just before he delivers a forearm shiver to the back of Toews' neck/head.  Boychuk intentionally headhunted a star player with a history of concussions.  But I suspect nothing will be handed down from the NHL since their Executive Vice President and Director of Hockey Operations (Colin Campbell) has a son who is on the Boston Bruins (Gregory Campbell).

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 23, 2013, 12:12:49 pm
The only way that would be penalized is if CNN and ESPN kept replaying it like above with commentary about how brutal and unpenalized it was.  All sports are becoming more concerned about concussions and if the NHL was portrayed as being insincere, somebody would do something.  Lately, public opinion has to be whipped up by the media before something is done.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2013, 04:02:38 pm
The NHL decided against any penalty. I'm sure they'd claim the initial point of contact was the shoulder.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 23, 2013, 06:13:35 pm
Shameful response to the hits on Toews.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 08:15:57 am
Interesting that EdsO doesn't find the Boychuk hit penalty-worthy... ???
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 07:10:21 pm
Game #6 start minutes away...Gotta figure the B's coming out like mad dogs...might be a helluva night...Go Hawks!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 24, 2013, 07:41:05 pm
Blackhawks seem to have forgotten there was a game tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 07:41:11 pm
Boston strikes first 1-0
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 07:43:02 pm
Not an unexpected start by Boston....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 24, 2013, 07:52:34 pm
Awful effort by Chicago so far. Not skating, not initiating anything.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 08:05:59 pm
I M O the Hawks are doin the hockey equivalent of the Ali rope-a-dope ;)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 24, 2013, 08:07:54 pm
Strange how the Hawks didn't answer the bell. Lucky as hell to be down only 1-0.

That last penalty on Rosival, by the way: that's a penalty, but the Boychuck hit on Toews is a good hockey play? Really?

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Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 08:28:38 pm
Yesssssss Toews!!!!! All tied up!!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 08:31:18 pm
Seabrooke with the 4th Hawks penalty
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 24, 2013, 09:02:23 pm
Both Bickell and Kane were within millimeters of scoring on that PP.

Man the ice is bad. I'm sure the NHL oversees ice during the SCF, but that is embarrassingly bad ice for a game like this.

Anyhow, good period for hawks. They need another gear now
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 09:07:59 pm
Yeah Kane almost had a little flip over Rask, but Chara poked it away, close but no cigar, dang it.....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 24, 2013, 09:36:13 pm
One of Duncan Keith's patented turnovers may have just lead to a game seven.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 10:07:51 pm
Stanley Cup Champs, again...what an unbelieveable last 76 seconds, unfreakin real
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on June 24, 2013, 10:10:43 pm
Woo hoo!  What a great front to back season!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 10:12:49 pm
You know it ECF
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: brjones on June 24, 2013, 10:17:08 pm
So ICE Hockey season finally ends on June 24?  More than 3 months after winter is over?  What a ridiculous sport.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 10:22:02 pm
Seriously?...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 24, 2013, 10:26:50 pm
BRJones, what the hell? Who are you, the offspring of Jes Beard and JeffH? Perhaps the most ill timed idiotic comment in the history of this forum. Congrats on being kind of a shithead.

But, anyhow, trolls be damned. What an epic completely un-Chicago-like heart-stopping incredible game and season. wow, wow, wow.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 10:30:29 pm
What' s the tradition of who gets the Cup first to take it on a personal tour?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 24, 2013, 10:34:12 pm
Congrats to the Hawks on winning the Stanley Cup!

Hopefully they'll be taking good care of it for the Preds next year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: brjones on June 24, 2013, 10:37:54 pm
Sorry, just bitter that the Cubs are so bad. 

Really, congrats to the Blackhawks.  Just frustrated that the only sport I'm really invested in turns out so bad every year.  Just really hoping the Cubs are like the Blackhawks in a few years.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 24, 2013, 10:45:03 pm
Hey br I'm bummed as well about our Cubs, but the Hawks were incredible during the shortened season. Someday sooner than later the Cubs will be the toast of Chicago, believe it.... :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 24, 2013, 10:52:25 pm
Ok, BR Jones, you are forgiven.

Hey, a Cubs win would be way beyond this. But, this is pretty special.

And what's cool is that the Blackhaws -- thanks to Scottie Bowman -- have a philosophy and system in place that will allow this to happen again. Or at least a good chance. And we all hope that the Cubs' have that kind of sustained success starting soon.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 24, 2013, 10:55:18 pm
Now that was shocking.

The Hawks buck the trend of Chicago teams finding ways to lose. This one somehow found a way to win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 24, 2013, 11:30:25 pm
Fantastic win by the Hawks.  I have to admit I was not optimistic after game 3, but I'm delighted to have been proven wrong.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 25, 2013, 07:16:20 am
Still in shock over the last couple minutes of that game.  Wow.  Was expecting a game 7 in Chi-Town tomorrow night.  I think the Hawks caught the Bruins off-guard a little bit, the Bruins thinking they had it in the bag and just got overwhelmed there at the end.  What a finish.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 25, 2013, 07:37:40 am
After tying the game the Bruins won the ensuing face off and I'm thinking the B's will go into a "prevent defense" slow the play with D to D passes but the Hawks had different mind set,get bodies in front of Ras, put pucks on the net, then BANG! Oduya to Bolland,game ovah!!!! .....actually I blame the guy singing the National Anthem doing his dumb schtick following the conclusion of his rendition putting the curse on the B's chances of winning the cup... ;D
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 25, 2013, 08:39:54 am
It's so different watching the Hawks than any other Chicago team.  The Hawks seemed to always find a way to win.  The rest the opposite.  Lots of fun.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on June 25, 2013, 09:42:39 am
It was cool that the winning goal was scored by a combo of Kruger, Oduya, Frolik and Bolland. Hardly the limelight guys.  But a huge reason why the Hawks had the regular season they did, and won the cup, was because of their depth.

Scottie Bowman's philosophy of playing the puck instead of flying around trying to taking guys' heads off wins out again, as it did in Detroit. And he also is a big believer in keeping a core of guys and then bringing up guys from  the minors (and the Hawks have a top-10 system), and filing in with spare parts. The Kane/Toews group has a few more years together...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 25, 2013, 09:46:15 am
Hope that Bowman makes sure that Bickell is part of that core.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 25, 2013, 09:54:15 am
Kane and Toews have one year left on their contracts. By the time they are re-signed, the team will be in cap hell once again. It's really unfortunate, but the Hawks are going to have to go through this again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on June 25, 2013, 10:19:14 am
Awesome win!  Awesome finish!

Kane and Toews have 2 years left

Sharp has 4 and Hossa and Keith have forever.

http://www.capgeek.com/blackhawks/

I heard they can buy out Montador so they can keep Bickell.  Maybe they can find a taker for Bolland too.

But they do have several young guys to fill in.  Things will still be good next year although they might really miss Emery next year.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 25, 2013, 10:33:42 am
Lovely drop pass to the point by Kruger on the winning goal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 25, 2013, 10:53:23 am
I was thinking Kane and Toews had signed 4-year deals.

Hossa's contract eventually is going to be an albatross.

The Hawks recently signed a Finnish goalie who was the MVP of his league and is an excellent prospect. He could backup Crawford next year or perhaps need one year in the AHL.

I'd like to see Jeremy Morin get a permanent wing spot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 25, 2013, 12:06:24 pm
I don't care about contracts right now.  I'm too busy enjoying the Cup!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 25, 2013, 03:34:28 pm
At least this loser franchise has something decent to put on the old sign...



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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 26, 2013, 08:42:23 am
ESPN really annoys the hell out of me.  The Biogenesis scandal was big front page news on ESPN, but when a prominent NFL player gets arrested as part of a murder investigation, it's nothing more than just a little link off to the side.

It's pretty obvious ESPN is trying to keep the bad PR for their favorite league down to as little as possible.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 26, 2013, 08:44:59 am
I mean if the MLB equivalent to Aaron Hernandez (someone like Torii Hunter for example) was caught up for two weeks in a murder investigation and eventually got arrested, it'd probably be front page news on ESPN for the entire two weeks. 

Steroids in MLB gets treated as a major story any time something comes up.  Murder in the NFL . . . not so much.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Cactus on June 26, 2013, 08:52:00 am
ESPN will have competition starting August 17 when Fox Sports 1 debuts.  I doubt if they will be much different.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 26, 2013, 12:26:02 pm
Hilarious article about the Bruins with wonderful pictures:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/eulogy-remembering-2012-13-boston-bruins-151152407.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on June 26, 2013, 02:42:54 pm
ESPN has been live on the Aaron Hernandez story all day long.  They covered his arrest and arraignment live and talked about it on SportsCenter all morning and afternoon.  It wasn't the only thing they talked about but it certainly was covered.  They had someone live on the scene outside his house, another reporter live outside the courthouse and their legal analyst was on several times all morning and afternon discussing the probability of bail for Hernandez on various charges.  They even had football discussions about how Hernandez being released by the Patriots would effect their season.

I have my problems with ESPN but saying they didn't cover the Hernandez story is off base.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 26, 2013, 02:45:42 pm
Yeah they're finally now making a big deal out of it now that he's been officially charged and the Patriots have released him. 

Their coverage of it up to that point had been very subdued I thought, though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 26, 2013, 03:59:22 pm
Heh, good thing they signed Tebow.  "Son, you're moving to Tight End."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 26, 2013, 04:00:19 pm
Yeah they're finally now making a big deal out of it now that he's been officially charged and the Patriots have released him. 

Their coverage of it up to that point had been very subdued I thought, though.
I don't know about ESPN but CNN made a big deal out of it since last week.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 26, 2013, 09:39:06 pm
SI looks at the Blackhawks' immediate roster issues and potential replacements:

http://nhl.si.com/2013/06/26/chicago-blackhawks-look-to-youth-to-fill-holes-in-post-stanley-cup-roster/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 27, 2013, 06:49:12 am
Heh, good thing they signed Tebow.  "Son, you're moving to Tight End."

That might not be so far off.  Tight end or fullback.  Dude is an athlete.....just not a quarterback.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 27, 2013, 06:04:01 pm
The UCLA team roster is interesting.  3 if those kids played for the Springfield Sliders wood bat team a few years back.  All but one player is from California, except one kid from distant Reno, NV.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 27, 2013, 08:48:22 pm
Another lose with dignity pick for the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 29, 2013, 10:56:53 pm
Well we know the Stanley Cup is in good hands....

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BN-ce0XCEAEfcEn.jpg
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 30, 2013, 11:13:30 am
The more I read about this Hernandez situation, the more I wonder about his intelligence.  Is he really bright and thinks he will beat this rap like OJ or is he really so stupid to allow even his home security cameras show him with the weapon moments after the killing?  How do you have such brass as to throw away 40 million dollars cuz it's more important to you to be a gangsta?  Puzzling.  Really puzzling.

I saw one attorney who said that he expects the head injury defense...too many concussions.  Not sure that will fly.  Too many drug involvements is more likely, plus the 2012 killings were prior to the concussion he received.  Good chance he will OJ because there were two other guys with him and unless they roll over, nobody can prove he fired the actual shots, but, like OJ, the ensuing civil suit will clean him out.

Just hard to believe that you can be so immoral and psychopathic to do that kind of thing, even though I've seen what drugs to do kids. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 01, 2013, 07:21:21 pm
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Marc Stein        ✔ @ESPNSteinLine

Mike Dunleavy has gone ahead and verbally committed to sign two-year, $6M deal with Bulls, according to sources with knowledge of the deal
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 01, 2013, 07:22:49 pm
Interesting that the Bulls apparently fired Ron Adams because he was privately critical of Paxson and Foreman's personnel decisions.  Given his reputation as a superb assistant and closeness with Rose and Thibs, that's a pretty risky move.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on July 02, 2013, 01:11:06 pm
it won't be long before tibs is out with CHI...he and gar are butting heads
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Coach on July 02, 2013, 06:35:18 pm
Thibs has always reminded me of Mike Keenan.  Short-term success but can't do it long-term due to burnout.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 02, 2013, 06:42:02 pm
I can see that too, but given that this is his first head-coaching gig it's too soon to label him that way.  Skiles, on the other hand...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Coach on July 02, 2013, 06:47:59 pm
Coolest call of the Hawks' clincher.  It's in Finnish, but it is epic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHcGlR4-dV0
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on July 02, 2013, 10:22:25 pm
Thanks coach, that was truly awesome!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 09, 2013, 10:36:43 pm
Thibs has always reminded me of Mike Keenan.  Short-term success but can't do it long-term due to burnout.

Big difference between Thibs & Keenan is most of Keenan's players (at least on the Blackhawks) hated him.  Bulls players like Thibs.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 09, 2013, 10:41:16 pm

Chris27 must be in mourning.  Elisha Cuthbert got married to a Maple Leaf and no, Sean Avery wasn't invited.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20714856,00.html (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20714856,00.html)






Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 09, 2013, 10:55:43 pm
You have a damn fine memory.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 09, 2013, 11:02:21 pm
Easy to remember as you did use her photo as your avatar for about two years or so.   Maybe longer.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 16, 2013, 09:38:57 pm
Although it's of limited meaning, Teague looks like a star in the summer league.  Wonder if there's any way Thibs lets him see the floor next season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 17, 2013, 12:34:58 am
Apparently Tony Snell has looked really good too. He might be an impact defender.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 21, 2013, 11:25:39 am
I hope you guys got to watch Phil Mickelson down the stretch at the British.  That was some unbelievable golf.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 21, 2013, 11:33:18 am
Lovely birdie putt on 18.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Cactus on July 21, 2013, 01:11:39 pm
Add Phil Mickelson’s 66 at Muirfield to the 65 Arnold Palmer shot at Cherry Hills in 1960 and the 63 Johnny Miller shot at Oakmont in 1973 if you are making a list of the greatest final rounds in major championship golf.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 23, 2013, 06:49:07 pm
Jimmy Butler could use a fashion consultant:

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nba/guard-jimmy-butler-does-not-support-****/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on July 27, 2013, 10:58:27 am
Really great read on Louisana guy playing qb at Memphis. 

http://www.cbssports.com/general/blog/gregg-doyel/22886326/modest-qbs-piano-talent-a-memorable-gift-for-11-year-old-cancer-patient
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on July 27, 2013, 11:04:28 am
Karam is the talk of the town. Doyel did nice work on a great story.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 05, 2013, 08:42:16 am
More proof that big time college athletics is one of the dirtiest businesses in America today.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9537999/otl-ncaa-investigating-johnny-manziel-profiting-autographs

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 05, 2013, 08:42:22 am
There's just so much wrong with that, I can't even begin. 

The first problem is these "student" athletes on the glorified minor league pro football teams need to be paid.  Granted, Johnny Manziel has proven himself to be a real moran, and this is just more proof of it.  Still, Texas A&M, his coaches, the university administrators, the NCAA, the SEC, ESPN, adidas, etc. have made millions and millions of dollars off this this guy, and his only compensation is roughly a $15,000 to $20,000 per year benefit.  A player who brings in that kind of money ought to be compensated for it legally. 

And of course the second problem is Johnny Manziel, college football's brightest star, is a complete idiot jack-ass.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 05, 2013, 09:29:46 am
Whether it's Braun, Aaron Hernandez, Johnny Football, Riley Cooper, that Alabama rookie's flashing the cash, ARod...there is a aura that these guys display that says, "I will never get caught," "I am too important to get in trouble" "My money and fame will get me out of it."  And there is a total ignorance of the power of social media to characterize and publicize when you do stupid stuff.  I'm beginning to believe Johnny will flame out.  And since ARod is showing such arrogance, I hope they ban him.  Even if he sues and appeals, it can drag out long enough that he never plays again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 05, 2013, 09:33:46 am
Yeah I'm also starting to think now that Manziel is going to flame out.  It looks like he's turning into a case of having too much fame too soon and not being nearly mature enough to handle it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 16, 2013, 09:44:40 am
Nice little piece on Noah:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/nba-z-joakim-noah-175020876.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on August 17, 2013, 01:33:57 pm
This is amazing:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/videogallery/77066413/Amazing-7-10-bowling-split-with-thrown-baseballs
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 26, 2013, 08:30:42 am
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Kevin Kolb - QB - Bills

According to the Buffalo News' Tim Graham, Kevin Kolb struggled to answer questions like "where are you" and "what's you're name" following his concussion in the third preseason game.
Yeah, it's probably time to hang 'em up. Graham told Sirius XM Radio's Ross Tucker that Kolb is "almost certainly done for the year," in addition to fears about Kolb's long-term health. The Bills will move forward with Jeff Tuel, Matt Leinart, and Thad Lewis competing for No. 2 duties behind E.J. Manuel.

I don't think being unable to answer "What is you're name?" is necessarily a sign one has a concussion.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on August 26, 2013, 08:33:30 am
Depends on who's asking...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 26, 2013, 08:37:39 am
I don't think being unable to answer "What is you're name?" is necessarily a sign one has a concussion.
Yeah, that's an everyday occurrence for Davep.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on August 29, 2013, 08:31:47 am
Yeah, that's an everyday occurrence for Davep.

That might be offending to Davep if he could remember that's his name.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on September 08, 2013, 08:02:34 pm
Watching the Giants play the Cowboys is like watching the Cubs play each other.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 08, 2013, 08:15:49 pm
Watching the Giants play the Cowboys is like watching the Cubs play each other.
Yes, but either the Giants or Cowboys will finally win.  The Cubs lose all their intra-squad games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on September 14, 2013, 04:52:24 pm
I hope Jiggs isn't watching this Oregon/Tennessee game....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 14, 2013, 11:12:51 pm
2nd best game of the day...wonder what Bubba and Lulu thought of it?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 15, 2013, 01:36:40 pm
I believe the Bears Vikings game would be best described as a comedy of errors
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on September 15, 2013, 01:50:02 pm
Indeed Robb. Gonna have to tighten up in a few areas to win this game. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on September 15, 2013, 03:40:28 pm
Nice finish. Cutler actually looked good there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 05, 2013, 06:50:19 pm
No one watching Rose's first game back, eh?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 05, 2013, 07:30:06 pm
I've seen a little. Rose looks quite healthy and unrestrained. Butler looks excellent as usual (sorry).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 05, 2013, 07:43:50 pm
Bulls getting to the line a ton but shooting poorly. This could be a problem again with Hamilton, Bellinelli, and Robinson gone.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 05, 2013, 08:02:09 pm
Butler has 12 FT attempts through 3.

Rose has mainly scored in transition.

Boozer 1-5 for 2 pts and 5 fouls, so no change there.

Deng 4-16.

Gibson's probably been the best Bull.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 05, 2013, 08:04:10 pm
The Bulls should be awful strong this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 05, 2013, 08:35:02 pm
Based on one game, it appears Teague is still in Siberia.  Too bad - I think he can really be a difference-maker.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 05, 2013, 08:59:42 pm
Having Rose and Hinrich both is what hurts Teague.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 06, 2013, 05:12:45 pm
Watching Denver's offense the only thing that seems to stop them is the end of the half.  Wow how do you slow down that juggernaut?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on October 10, 2013, 10:12:28 pm
Could Vogelbach play DT for the Bears?

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 10, 2013, 10:35:58 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 12, 2013, 05:21:44 pm
Rose out for today's exhibition game with soreness in his surgically repaired knee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 12, 2013, 09:11:31 pm
Uh oh.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 17, 2013, 03:19:36 pm
Derrick Rose returned last night and looked really good. Bulls also got Noah back, but Butler sat out with a knee bruise. It's impossible to get that whole team healthy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 17, 2013, 03:52:04 pm
Knee bruise should not be a serious problem.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 18, 2013, 02:50:01 pm
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Knee bruise should not be a serious problem.

That's okay because now Noah's out at least a week with a groin injury.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 19, 2013, 03:51:17 pm
Now Hinrich has a concussion and Butler missed another game with his knee injury.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 19, 2013, 04:28:23 pm
Good thing the season hasn't started.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 19, 2013, 07:26:03 pm
The real issue with the Bulls isn't Butler and Hinrich being dinged.  Butler will be back, and Teague will outperform Hinrich if he gets on the floor.  But losing Asik a year ago has left the Bulls far weaker inside, with no depth.  I think Asik is a better player than Noah to begin with but either way, Noah has proved pretty conclusively that he can't stay on the floor, and Nazr Mohammed strikes fear into no one as a backup.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 19, 2013, 08:45:35 pm
I think he strikes fear into you as a back up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 19, 2013, 09:50:19 pm
He strikes fear into no opponent...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ron on October 20, 2013, 02:38:22 pm
Watching USA Women vs. Australia.  Damn, the USA Women are good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on October 21, 2013, 01:10:18 pm
The real issue with the Bulls isn't Butler and Hinrich being dinged.  Butler will be back, and Teague will outperform Hinrich if he gets on the floor.  But losing Asik a year ago has left the Bulls far weaker inside, with no depth.  I think Asik is a better player than Noah to begin with but either way, Noah has proved pretty conclusively that he can't stay on the floor, and Nazr Mohammed strikes fear into no one as a backup.
I don't think Asik is better than Noah...he's a good player, but not better than Noah
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 21, 2013, 03:08:47 pm
No way is Asik a better player than Noah, all apsects of the game considered.  He is more durable though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 21, 2013, 05:53:36 pm
Look at the numbers when Asik finally got a chance to play starters minutes.  And Asik does so many things that don't even show up in the numbers...  I'd take him over Noah because when it comes to the type of basketball you need to play to win in the postseason, he's a game-changer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on October 21, 2013, 08:01:56 pm
Have a chance to take my kid to the Bulls' final preseason game on Friday. But, my fear is that most regulars will get rested (either very limited minutes, or won't even suit up). Anyone have a better sense of what might happen?

Basically I want to take him to see Rose, but suspect #1 will be in a suit on the end of the bench cheering on Teague.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Exile236 on October 21, 2013, 08:56:35 pm
Clearly you don't know Thibbs very well, if you think that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on October 22, 2013, 01:11:35 pm
Look at the numbers when Asik finally got a chance to play starters minutes.  And Asik does so many things that don't even show up in the numbers...  I'd take him over Noah because when it comes to the type of basketball you need to play to win in the postseason, he's a game-changer.
ya gotta play during the regular season before you get to the playoffs....noah will get you to the playoffs, asik is not close to that kind of player. he is useful and a good player, but not as good as Noah
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 22, 2013, 01:37:09 pm
Asik is useful but has nowhere near Noah's skill set.  Noah is a better rebounder, as good a help defender, can switch to smaller players, can hit an occasional outside jumper, shoots free throws at a better rate by far, is a much better passer (probably top two in the NBA at center) can fill the lane better and oh yeah, HE CAN ACTUALLY CATCH THE BALL.  I loved Asik while he was here but he isn't anywhere near as skilled or as valuable as Noah.  About the only edge I give Asik is as a shot blocker.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 22, 2013, 04:06:57 pm
Houston liked Asik so much they signed Dwight Howard.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 22, 2013, 04:10:50 pm
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Noah is a better rebounder

I don't buy that Asik is the better player, but his rebounding rate last year was better than any in Noah's career.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 22, 2013, 05:15:49 pm
Total rebounds doesn't mean better.  Remember Noah has Bolder and Gibson alongside who are great rebounders.  That will depress Noah's numbers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 22, 2013, 06:04:24 pm
Asik averaged more rebounds and only about 1.5 PPG less than Noah despite playing about 7 less minutes per game last year, and despite the fact that the Bulls were one of the worst offensive teams in the league.  Noah is a better passer but I don't think there's another area of the game where he's all that much better than Asik.  And Asik is a far superior rebounder and defender.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 23, 2013, 11:20:20 am
Who's Bolder?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on October 23, 2013, 01:10:24 pm
give it up DEEG-no way to win this debate  ;)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on October 23, 2013, 01:42:03 pm
Who's Bolder?

Boozer?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 23, 2013, 02:04:17 pm
NBA basketball player for the Bulls.  Woo Hoo, 3 points, baby.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 23, 2013, 06:15:09 pm
give it up DEEG-no way to win this debate  ;)

I think I already did.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 29, 2013, 08:02:46 pm
Bulls getting humiliated in Miami. Excellent start to the season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 29, 2013, 08:05:13 pm
Bulls may not be challenging the Heat this season.  Big surprise.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on October 29, 2013, 08:15:02 pm
Bulls getting humiliated in Miami. Excellent start to the season.

Wait until the Cardinals win the last two at Fenway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 29, 2013, 09:19:25 pm
The Bulls are still awful talented.

They're easily a 55 to 60 win team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 29, 2013, 09:44:52 pm
Well Boozer had a big game offensively, and Butler was great. Deng and Rose stunk it up. Noah isn't ready yet physically.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 30, 2013, 12:17:49 am
This game ably proves the already-proved point that preseason means jack.  However, to write off the Bulls' chances based on one game to start the season is ludicrous beyond belief.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on October 30, 2013, 06:57:47 am
You can be sure the Bulls will not be humiliated like this next time these two teams meet.  Chris pretty well summed it up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 30, 2013, 07:46:09 am
Mind you, if Miami is healthy the Bulls still aren't close to beating them in a 7-game series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 30, 2013, 11:41:34 am
I disagree Deeg.  If Miami and the Bulls are healthy come playoff time I give the Bulls a 40/60 chance of upsetting the Heat.  I didn't see anything last night to make me believe otherwise.  I will say this, if Shane Battier is going to shoot 100% from three this season and the Heat in general are going to shoot 55% from three as a team as they did last night then just skip the season now.  Something tells me they will revert to the norm though which last year was .just under 40%. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on October 30, 2013, 01:10:13 pm
Well Boozer had a big game offensively, and Butler was great. Deng and Rose stunk it up. Noah isn't ready yet physically.
Too bad we didn't have Asik instead of Noah
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 30, 2013, 07:09:36 pm
I disagree Deeg.  If Miami and the Bulls are healthy come playoff time I give the Bulls a 40/60 chance of upsetting the Heat.  I didn't see anything last night to make me believe otherwise.  I will say this, if Shane Battier is going to shoot 100% from three this season and the Heat in general are going to shoot 55% from three as a team as they did last night then just skip the season now.  Something tells me they will revert to the norm though which last year was .just under 40%. 

Just don't see it, Robb.  The Bulls are basically the same team that lost to the Heat 2 years ago, less Asik and plus Dunleavey.  They have no second scoring option and they aren't athletic enough.  If you can stop Rose you can stop the Bulls - and in the 4th quarter, the Heat can shut Rose down.

The last time the Bulls were a threat to Miami was before Asik got hurt, in that second game where no one scored for about 5 minutes in the fourth quarter for either team.  The Bulls aren't going to score on Miami late so their best bet was to go all-in on stopping them, and they were a defensive firewall with Asik, Gibson and Deng up-front.  Then Asik got hurt and that series was effectively over.  Until the Bulls get a second guy who can create his own shot and more overall athleticism, I don't see them as a threat to a healthy Heat team in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 30, 2013, 07:26:34 pm
Don't know if the Bulls can beat Miami but Butler is an enormous upgrade from whatever they trotted out there at 2-guard three seasons ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 31, 2013, 07:35:24 pm
Rose just looks terrible right now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on November 01, 2013, 03:09:16 pm
But he looks healthy and fearless. The rust will go away.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 01, 2013, 07:14:27 pm
But he looks healthy and fearless. The rust will go away.

Indeed it will.  I'm not worried about Rose - I'm worried that the same Rose with a better supporting cast was never really a match for Miami in the postseason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 02, 2013, 12:58:20 am
Rose looks healthy but I haven't seen the supposed explosion the media (and Rose) keeps yapping about. And his shot has been terrible. He seems to have all but given up on the mid-range and floaters, his game-winner not withstanding.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 02, 2013, 09:32:16 am
That will come as well Chris.  He needs to have a season to gain game confidence in his off-season work.  Luckily the playoffs don't start until April.  If nothing has changed by then I'll worry.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 02, 2013, 09:53:37 am
If anything concerns me about Rose, it's the nagging injuries.  People forget now because of the knee, but Rose was basically in and out of the lineup for the entire season with a dizzying array of injuries.  Now we're two games in and he's already having neck issues.  If Rose is unable to stay healthy generally, never mind the knee, this may be a career-long issue for him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on November 02, 2013, 08:39:09 pm
The Bulls are probably not the NBA's worst team, but they are definitely in the discussion.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 02, 2013, 08:46:18 pm
They are sloppy. 1-2, should be 0-3. Will be 1-3 after Indiana kicks them around the next game.

Blowing 20-point leads is probably a cause of concern.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on November 02, 2013, 08:54:03 pm
At least they're not the Cubs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 02, 2013, 08:54:30 pm
Rose 4-14, 8 TO's.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 02, 2013, 09:05:17 pm
Even after the Bulls win 55 games, some on this board will still be calling them one of the worst teams in the league.  But in the end it would probably be better anyway if they didn't come close this season, because maybe that will finally shake Paxson out of his stupor and make him understand that this group isn't good enough - he needs to blow up the core and take some chances to try and be a great team rather than a good one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 02, 2013, 09:27:06 pm
55-or 65 wins they'll not go far in the playoffs like usual.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 06, 2013, 08:29:07 pm
The Bulls look terrible across the board.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 07, 2013, 09:30:43 am
http://www.sj-r.com/breaking/x450317463/Man-uses-stun-gun-on-wife-to-settle-Bears-Packers-bet

Oh, they were drinking.  Now it makes sense.  :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 10, 2013, 02:32:55 pm
I can't watch the NFL anymore. They just took a clear Bears' TD away for no reason. That league sucks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on November 10, 2013, 04:53:53 pm
I can't watch the NFL anymore. They just took a clear Bears' TD away for no reason. That league sucks.

Yep. And no way should Cutler play as long as he did.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on November 11, 2013, 12:36:58 pm
cutler should not have played period....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on November 11, 2013, 12:44:56 pm
cutler should not have played period....

Can't say I don't agree with that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on November 11, 2013, 01:05:08 pm
cutler should not have played period....

Is that last word the reason he shouldn't have played?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 11, 2013, 05:09:08 pm
Is that last word the reason he shouldn't have played?

How anyone can still be doubting Cutler's toughness is utterly mystifying.  Call him an A-hole if you want - he acts like one sometimes - but surviving what he's been through the last few years and playing hurt as often as he has, the guy has proved his toughness beyond all doubts.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 11, 2013, 05:35:44 pm
The Bears board was unreadable yesterday...idiots saying he was in there playing for a contract, and insisting on playing hurt...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 11, 2013, 06:57:01 pm
The  first drive he looked good. Best he has looked all year then it went down hill. He should have been pulled at halftime.

Then again the Bears getting two TD's taken away one drive, not kicking the FG in the first half, the non late hit calls on Cutler...etc sealed their fate for 2013.

They weren't going far with that defense anyway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on November 11, 2013, 10:27:27 pm
How anyone can still be doubting Cutler's toughness is utterly mystifying.  Call him an A-hole if you want - he acts like one sometimes - but surviving what he's been through the last few years and playing hurt as often as he has, the guy has proved his toughness beyond all doubts.

It was just a bad joke.  I'm not even a bears fan.

The team for which I root got humiliated by the Saints Sunday night and hasn't won a meaningful playoff game since their drunk owner mouthed off in an Orlando bar twenty something years ago.

OK, so they won one Super Bowl after that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 11, 2013, 10:39:53 pm
I'm at the point where I think the Bears should make an effort to draft Manziel.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 11, 2013, 11:16:11 pm
AJ McCarron late...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 11, 2013, 11:20:04 pm
I'd kind of would like to see the Titans wind up with McCarron, myself.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 12, 2013, 12:43:49 am
I like McCarron too. Not sure if he can be elite though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 13, 2013, 08:08:11 am
Interesting analysis of Rose's problems so far:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/derrick-rose-needs-act-point-guard-171500966--nba.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 13, 2013, 04:57:10 pm
Interesting analysis of Rose's problems so far:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/derrick-rose-needs-act-point-guard-171500966--nba.html


The problem is that the Bulls don't really have a lot of other scoring options to take the pressure off Rose unless they're willing to heavily use Boozer in the post, which they're not.  Boozer is the only other frontline offensive player on the roster, pretty much, and he can't be that without a lot of help the Bulls and Rose aren't willing to give him during crunch time (if he's even on the floor).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 13, 2013, 07:34:29 pm
Jimmy Butler ain't the answer at the 2 either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 13, 2013, 08:18:02 pm
I like McCarron too. Not sure if he can be elite though.
\

Aaron Rodgers wasnt elite enough for 23 teams too...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 14, 2013, 01:52:25 pm
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Aaron Rodgers wasnt elite enough for 23 teams too...

Rogers was a big-time pro prospect, a 1st-round talent. McCarron isn't considered to be anywhere near that at the moment. A better potential comparison would be Brady.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on November 14, 2013, 02:33:21 pm
Rogers was expected to go early first round.  He was sitting there.  Awkwardly.  Worked out well for him in the end, though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 14, 2013, 06:14:58 pm
AJ has great accuracy. makes good decisions... getting him late in the first would be a lot better then going after a system QB like mariota who will probably go in the top 5.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 14, 2013, 07:32:51 pm
Not to mention leadership qualities that are off the chart...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on November 14, 2013, 07:36:49 pm

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-5284f301/turbine/chi-nba-bulls-short-sleeve-jerseys-20131114-001/600)

Bulls getting short-sleeve jerseys for Christmas

Tribune report - 1:44 p.m. CST, November 14, 2013

What does the NBA have up its sleeve for Christmas Day? It's a present that fans with a taste for tradition just might want to return.

Special "Big Logo" uniforms will be worn by the Bulls and the other nine teams that will be playing on the holiday. Designed by Adidas, the uniforms "feature team logos in reflective chrome as the focal point on the short-sleeve jerseys."

Yep, short-sleeve jerseys, as modeled by Derrick Rose and other stars in the league's ad campaign.

The NBA also  is publicizing the roll-out with a TV commerical titled “Jingle Hoops” that features Rose, the Heat’s LeBron James, the Thunder’s Kevin Durant, the Rockets’ James Harden, the Lakers’ Steve Nash and the Warriors’ Stephen Curry -- all in short sleeves -- hitting choreographed three-pointers to the tune of “One-horse Open Sleigh.”

The Bulls will open the day's slate of five NBA games at 11 a.m. CT against the Brooklyn Nets. The new NBA gear is available for purchase by fans beginning today.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-nba-bulls-short-sleeve-jerseys-20131114,0,1007003.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-nba-bulls-short-sleeve-jerseys-20131114,0,1007003.story)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on November 17, 2013, 06:11:24 am
Impressive win by the Bulls over the undefeated Pacers. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 22, 2013, 11:23:21 pm
This Bulls team sucks. What a garbage performance tonight as they blow a 21-point lead.

Rose hurt his leg again. How long will he be out this time? Maybe it's time to say goodbye to Paxson. This team has really no good players, especially on the bench these days.

Probably be looking for a new head coach after this failure of a season is over with. If Mike Dunleavy is your big move of the offseason, you know you will be in for a long year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 23, 2013, 12:46:37 am
Well, at least it was the other knee...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 23, 2013, 01:49:28 am
You kinda start to wonder how things are gonna play out for D Rose`s career.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 23, 2013, 02:44:17 am
Reports spreading that the Bulls fear an ACL tear in his right knee. Sickening.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 23, 2013, 03:15:47 am
It makes you wonder if Rose simply has a congenital weakness in the support structures of the knee.  People do - it's just that the average person who doesn't do what Rose does for a living will go through their lives never knowing it.

Well - all we can do is hope this is miraculously not another torn ACL, and the initial diagnosis is off (which it almost never is).  It really is unlikely he'll ever be the same player if indeed it is the ACL.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 23, 2013, 06:02:45 am
I really hope if it is his ACL that they blow this team up and tank the rest of this season.  Trade Deng, Boozer, Noah and Hinrich for whatever you can get so long as it comes off the books next year.  A core of Butler, Gibson and Mirotic will be a good start coupled with a good pick in next year's draft or two. (If Charlotte keeps improving the Bulls get their pick next year as well).  Sadly Rose's days as a top five player are probably over and even with him this team was poorly conceived.  You can't have only one guy on the team who can create their own shot.  Watching Portland last night I was astounded how many guys they have who simply bury every open shot they get.  Yet Thibs continued to double Aldridge every damn play throwing the defense out of their rotations.   The one time they didn't double Aldridge Gibson forced him into a ridiculous fade away.  Stupid.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 23, 2013, 04:37:17 pm
Bulls guard Derrick Rose sustained an injury to his right knee against the Portland Trail Blazers on Friday night. Subsequent examinations and an MRI confirmed a medial meniscus tear to his right knee, which will require surgery. Rose is out indefinitely, and will not accompany the team on the rest of its current road trip.

Blow the team up and donate Rose's body to science.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 23, 2013, 04:52:46 pm
Rose is probably done for the year, but that injury isn't as bad as another ACL. In theory, anyway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 23, 2013, 06:13:04 pm
In the big picture, this is very good news.  Another ACL would have brought us close to Grant Hill territory.  For the average player, this would be a 2-4 month injury.  Given Rose's history obviously they'll be very conservative but he should certainly play again this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 23, 2013, 07:37:57 pm
It depends on what they do in surgery.  If they remove it he will be back in 4 to 8 weeks.  If they repair it he will be beack in 4-6 months which basically means next season.  The difference is that removing it will shorten his career.  If they can repair it he will be able to come back the same player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 23, 2013, 08:24:59 pm
It depends on what they do in surgery.  If they remove it he will be back in 4 to 8 weeks.  If they repair it he will be beack in 4-6 months which basically means next season.  The difference is that removing it will shorten his career.  If they can repair it he will be able to come back the same player.

It's not that simple.  Technology is way ahead of where it was when Wade had his procedure done, and he shouldn't be used as a template.  Also, a medial meniscus tear is less severe than a lateral tear.

It really all depends on how severe the tear is - which they won't know until they actually do the surgery.  If the tear is small enough there are procedures that can be done that can get Rose back on the floor in 6-8 weeks without removing the meniscus entirely.  I'm sure the Bulls will be cautious and take the conservative path, but I'd be very surprised of Rose isn't back on the floor at least a month before the playoffs.  And in any event, this isn't the sort of injury that should threaten a career.

This represents a huge opportunity for Teague to show that he belongs in the NBA.  If he takes advantage of it that could be big for the Bulls, long-term.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 24, 2013, 04:38:10 pm
JR, I caught the end of the Vandy-Tennessee game yesterday.  Man, if it weren't for replay, Vanderbilt would have screwed by one of the worst spots ever.  Holy smokes, one could see immediately that the linesman was over a YARD off!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2013, 05:21:50 pm
LOL
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 24, 2013, 06:48:42 pm
JR, I caught the end of the Vandy-Tennessee game yesterday.  Man, if it weren't for replay, Vanderbilt would have screwed by one of the worst spots ever.  Holy smokes, one could see immediately that the linesman was over a YARD off!

Yeah that was awful.  Like you said, that would have gone down as typical Vandy luck in past years if it wasn't for replay. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2013, 07:05:34 pm
My Big Orange have went to hell in the past several years.

Truth being told Vandy had the better team but we did give it away.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 24, 2013, 07:45:36 pm
JR and Jiggy, I have no dog in the fight.  I just saw some bad officiating.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 24, 2013, 10:00:25 pm
That would have gone down as typical UT home cooking if not for replay.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 24, 2013, 10:21:32 pm
Rose reportedly leaning towards reattachment surgery and the end of his season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 25, 2013, 03:04:01 pm
Bulls confirm Rose is done for the year after surgery on his knee today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 25, 2013, 03:38:11 pm
He's babying it.  Should play again by Friday.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 25, 2013, 08:25:30 pm
Blow it up!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 25, 2013, 10:36:03 pm
Bulls losing to the 1-14 Jazz. In Overtime.

Yes, blow it up. Get rid of everyone you can, including the coaches. This team is done for.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 25, 2013, 10:44:16 pm
Make that the 2-14 Jazz.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 26, 2013, 07:24:35 am
This season is all about the next four or five seasons.  The more this team competes, the worse off their future will be.  The rebuild could be a reload like the Spurs did with Robinson and Duncan if they tank this season.  But they need to do it right.  Someone needs to give Noah a few pairs of those French shoes so his plascia heats up.  Trade Deng and Hinrich and Dunleavy.  Start the rookies, start anyone you can find in the D league.  Do it all the way. Next year you have Mirotic, Derrick (probably not the same but still a good player), Gibson, Butler, Noah, A solid Charlotte pick if they keep up their solid play and whatever return you get in trades.  This could be a fast reload if a few things go right.  If not then the core is still young.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 29, 2013, 05:32:53 pm
Man I didn't realize just how big of an **** Bo Pelini was until today.  He was just plain rude and disrespectful to the ABC correspondent during halftime today, and the soundbites from his press conference after the game were pretty ridiculous.

I'm sure there are plenty of Nebraska fans who will be telling Pelini not to let the door hit him on the ass on the way out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 29, 2013, 09:29:45 pm
Here's one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on November 29, 2013, 10:29:02 pm
He may be an @ss (he is) but I'm not sure they can get a coach that can win more than he has with the current state of that program.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 30, 2013, 08:52:45 pm
$80 million and Carlos Boozer can't make an uncontested layup a foot from the basket that would've gotten the Bulls into OT. I'll throw a party when he's gone.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 01, 2013, 03:13:26 am
Carlos Boozer is far from the problems with these guys.

Having players like Mike Dunleavy, Nazr Mohammed, Mike James, and Kirk Hinrich are the bigger problems.

They weren't winning this season with Rose healthy or not anyway so we shouldn't be shocked why they suck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 01, 2013, 05:33:25 am
You think Mike James and Nazr Mohammed with their 8 minutes of combined PT per game are bigger issues than Boozer and his $80M of ineptitude? Those guys are all backups or third-stringers. They add to good teams but don't play much of a role in making them.

I'm not blaming Boozer for all the team's problems---that would be stupid. He is irritating to watch, however.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 01, 2013, 04:23:59 pm
Boozer is a horrible defender and sometimes lazy but he is second on the team with points scored and leads the team with rebounds. With his size he should be slamming the ball down not missing layup after layup.

My point is this team has no depth. The bench, what was their strong point two seasons ago is gone. This team is nothing. They were nothing with Rose and nothing without Rose this season.

It's all done.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 01, 2013, 05:01:20 pm
Lost in the Saban bashing on many college football boards is the gutsy decision by Michigan for going for two yesterday.  Would have been sweet.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 01, 2013, 05:07:03 pm
Horrible decision. IMHO.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 01, 2013, 05:50:09 pm
I said "gutsy," I didn't say "smart"

I'm not an Ohio State or Michigan fan, but I respect going for the win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 01, 2013, 06:50:32 pm
Gutsy and understandable because Michigan's defense couldn't stop anything.

It was just the wrong call. Three defenders in the area. Ohio State had that sniffed out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 01, 2013, 07:57:22 pm
Michigan also didn't have a FG kicker.  I liked going for 2, but it was a horrible call.  They should have given Gardner a run/pass option on a roll out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on December 01, 2013, 07:59:16 pm
exactly, CBJ. right game call, poor play call.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on December 02, 2013, 01:11:51 pm
exactly, CBJ. right game call, poor play call.
Gutsy call, yes...The Michigan coach is there to beat Ohio St each and every year and he had the balls to go for it instead of roll the dice and go into OT. Bad play selection but great call by the coach. Michigan had nothing to lose by going for it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 02, 2013, 10:26:59 pm
Bulls lose in triple OT to New Orleans.

Wonder if they can tank enough to end up with get in the high end of the lottery.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 03, 2013, 01:59:25 am
Play Hinrich 53 minutes a few more times and they'll have to hold him together with rubber bands.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on December 05, 2013, 07:27:42 pm
Jaguars 44, Texans 14

Bob McNair fellates Gary Kubiak, gives him a ten year extension, and begs him for forgiveness.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 10, 2013, 02:08:02 pm
A bunch of rumors out of Texas that Saban will replace Brown.  If that happens their AD is amazing and Texas may not lose for years.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 10, 2013, 07:23:38 pm
Noah out for the Bulls with a leg issue. Deng out as well.

Tonight's starting lineup is Hinrich, Boozer, Dunleavy, Mohammed, and Snell.

The Bulls should have to pay the customers to watch that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 10, 2013, 08:39:03 pm
Sorry I'm missing it.  Hopefully the Bulls are extra careful with these injuries.  They sit all their starters for the season, just in case.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on December 10, 2013, 08:52:00 pm
Blackhawks spankin the Dallas Stars 5-0, 8:46 2nd period,
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 10, 2013, 10:35:07 pm
Well, the Bulls piled up 74 points in their home loss to the 4-16 Bucks.

Thibs will end up in the nuthouse.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 11, 2013, 12:17:17 am
Hinrich with 4 points in 76 minutes over the last two games, on 1-21 shooting.  I can't imagine there have been all that many 1-21s in NBA history.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 11, 2013, 10:55:14 am
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A bunch of rumors out of Texas that Saban will replace Brown.  If that happens their AD is amazing and Texas may not lose for years.

Yeah they wouldn't lose for years ... as in the 4-5 years or so Saban would stay until someone else paid him more money.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on December 11, 2013, 12:15:21 pm
If someone offered you a 30-40% pay increase to do the same job would you turn it down?  The only problem for Saban in Texas is it would be almost too easy and he might get bored.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 11, 2013, 12:47:17 pm
Saban may leave Bama but it wont be because they didnt put forth every effort in the world to keep him.

Kirby Smart is praying to God he leaves.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 15, 2013, 01:21:27 pm
I turned on the tv and saw Cleveland get a pick six.  As Goc is my witness, I said, "Oh, Cutler must be playing."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 16, 2013, 09:30:36 pm
The Bulls finally scored over 79 points.  They lost to the Magic.

This team is the most useless and boring team in the  NBA.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 17, 2013, 12:01:11 am
I hope they stay useless all the way to the end.  It will be best for their future.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 17, 2013, 12:20:01 am
I think trading Deng for whatever you can get makes the most sense, since they're going to lose him for nothing after the season. With his salary off the books and using amnesty on Boozer, they should be able to sign Mirotic and add one 2nd tier FA. And remove Deng from this roster, it's probably a lottery team. If you can add a LIAB candidate for Deng, even if it's Waiters, you have some potential rebuilding pieces.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 17, 2013, 01:44:14 am
Here's a scouting video (http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Revisiting-Nikola-Mirotic-Scouting-Video--4376) on Mirotic, possibly the best realistic hope the Bulls have any kind of short-term future.  Currently at 15/6 in 22 MPG for Real Madrid, shooting 63% and 50% from deep.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robert L on January 01, 2014, 06:53:05 pm
Touchdown MSU
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robert L on January 01, 2014, 07:33:46 pm
SPARTANS   WIN!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on January 01, 2014, 08:15:19 pm
The most underrated program in major college sports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 01, 2014, 08:21:05 pm
I would have loved to see Ohio State play Alabama...at least one pompous dude would go down.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on January 01, 2014, 09:57:38 pm
Alabama would destroy Ohio State.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 01, 2014, 10:18:26 pm
and that would break my heart, heh heh heh
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on January 02, 2014, 09:38:18 am
Cutler signs 7 year deal....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: papa smurf on January 02, 2014, 09:47:29 am
sec 4-1 in bowls so far with 4 left to play
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 02, 2014, 09:53:25 am
Cutler signs 7 year deal....
with who?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 02, 2014, 10:12:37 am
sec 4-1 in bowls so far with 4 left to play
And the one loss was to Nebraska.  Holy shiite.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on January 02, 2014, 11:55:21 am
with who?
Da Bears
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 02, 2014, 01:37:23 pm
Da Bears
Oh the horror!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: dogstoothe on January 04, 2014, 11:11:44 pm
Look out now, the curse is lifted.  On the road to victory.  The black and gold, baby, and a shout out to Boris.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: papa smurf on January 05, 2014, 08:13:41 am
the Saints have won!!!  And being a Saints fan I am worried about the next game but who knows. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 06, 2014, 11:55:38 pm
Deng traded to Cleveland - no word on return, though Waiters is presumably involved.  Let the teardown begin and, I suspect, the end of the Thibodeaux era.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2014, 12:00:46 am
Looks like no Waiters - purely a cap relief move, Bynum (who'll be released) and a pick.  Boozer and Thibs both gone at the end of the year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 07, 2014, 01:02:11 am
You dont know that Thibodeau is gone though Boozer likely is. I aint heartbroke over losing Luol either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2014, 01:21:50 am
With the Adams firing as the writing on the wall, it was always only a matter of time before the feud between Thibs and Foreman reached untenable levels.  Thibs' man-love for Deng is beyond the pale - he'll see this as another show across his bow, and he won't be entirely wrong.

I'm not heartbroken over losing Deng either.  Not because he isn't a nice player - he is - but because it's clear the Bulls were never going to win a title with him as the second piece.  With all the protections in place it's unlikely we'll get an impact player from any of the first-rounders owed us, though I suppose it's possible the Bulls could slip into the lottery now and get really, really lucky with the balls.  More likely is they make a hard run at Carmelo Anthony and try and bring Mirotic over.  Might Rose never come back close to what he was?  It's possible, maybe even likely - but they have to strategize as if he will, because if he's not back to being their top piece they're so **** that a complete rebuilt with the early 2020's in mind is probably the only viable option.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2014, 03:38:14 am
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The Bulls acquired the right to the Sacramento Kings’ first-round pick, which is top-12 protected in 2014, top-10 protected from 2015-17 and then becomes a second-round pick if not used by then, and two second-round picks the Cavaliers had acquired from the Trail Blazers in 2015 and 2016.

Also, the Bulls have the right to swap their own 2015 first-round pick with the Cavaliers only in the case the Cleveland pick is between 15 and 30.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2014, 03:39:12 am
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More likely is they make a hard run at Carmelo Anthony

Why on earth would they want Anthony? He's a selfish, one-dimensional player who has never won jack.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2014, 04:30:10 am
Because he's the best FA available and the Bulls front-office has always liked him.  And he'd undeniably give the Bulls the second legit scorer they've never had since Rose got to town, and don't have the means to get any other way.  They'd have to shed a little more salary to make it happen, but I expect them to try.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2014, 04:43:19 am
Anthony does not seem like a Forman/Paxson type player at all to me.

Bulls have all these picks but nobody in the top three or so is going to trade down.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 07, 2014, 08:31:51 am
Not for second-round picks, which is all they really have.  Everything else is conditional and the Sacramento pick won't even be a first-rounder if they don't make the playoffs by 2017.  And at this point, I think you've have to say Cleveland is likely to be better than the Bulls in 2015, when the chance to swap picks is on the table.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2014, 06:32:09 pm
Now they're making it sound like Mirotic won't be coming next year. Plus, Gibson and Noah are not exactly happy with Deng being gone. Rose and his doctor might be all that's left pretty soon.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 07, 2014, 07:47:36 pm
Its not like its the end of the world that Luol is gone. I know this season is a lost cause but theres no reason in the world that we should become a lottery level team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 08, 2014, 07:35:56 am
With Taj, Noah and Butler and Rose this is not a team without assets.  Add in the Charlotte pick and Bulls ick this year along with Nicola and a possible free agent and suddenly the Bulls are rebuilt.  I don't understand the pessimism.  This was a great move for the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 08, 2014, 04:37:12 pm
Robb, Rose has blown out two knees now. What is he really going to be from here on out?

Mirotic may not play for the Bulls until '15.

Most of those picks are going to be in the 15-25 range or in the 2nd round. Probably not going to get instant help there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 08, 2014, 06:49:17 pm
Rose looked just fine athletically this year before the mcl tear, which is a much easier injury to return from.  I'm actually more worried about how tentative he'll be than I am his health next ear.  Mid range picks can have value as well.  This front office has done a great job in the draft even though they've been picking in the 20's.  I' love to see what they can do in the teens.  Mirotic is a great example of this.  How about getting Butler and Mirotic in the same draft picking no better than 23?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 08, 2014, 07:17:30 pm
It's a seventh man and a theoretical prospect - I wouldn't call that draft a bonanza yet.

I think you have to move Hinrich and Dunleavey too, whatever you need to do to get enough space for a max free agent. And hopefully get into the lottery.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on January 09, 2014, 01:16:25 am
The Bulls drafted Taj Gibson with the 26th pick in the 2009 draft.  The Bulls historically do fairly well drafting in the second half of the 1st round.  The find good players.  Unfortunately in the last 15+ years, there are no potential franchise players that last that long in the draft.

 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 09, 2014, 01:25:50 am
Yes, they do very well finding decent role players late.  Snell could be another one.  But the lack of decent role players has never been the Bulls problem - stars win titles in the NBA.  It's a lot easier with three but you pretty much have to find at least two, and even if you assume Rose is going to get back to being one of them (and the Bulls have no choice) you aren't going to find another one with any of the picks they have coming up unless they completely tank and get lucky in the lottery with their own pick.

I see more moves coming to try and get a max FA, because this coming offseason is likely the only chance they'll have.  Houston is interested in Dunleavey, and you could find a taker for Hinrich.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 11, 2014, 11:53:12 pm
Don't look now but the Bulls have won 5 straight. I'd have never guessed it but DJ Augustin has really played well for them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 12, 2014, 12:15:16 am
You can never knock Thibs for the effort he gets from his guys, under any situation.  He's basically an anti-tank gun.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ron on January 20, 2014, 09:51:33 am
An entertaining video in which Richard Sherman (who is a very interesting guy, it turns out) puts down our old friend Skip Bayless. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt-WarABaJs
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 20, 2014, 09:59:08 am
Richard Sherman just made up for that post game interview in my mind, haha.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 20, 2014, 10:49:56 am
Speaking of Richard Sherman, here's a pretty fun little article.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tommytomlinson/2014/01/19/22-brief-thoughts-about-that-richard-sherman-interview/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/tommytomlinson/2014/01/19/22-brief-thoughts-about-that-richard-sherman-interview/)

Among the 22 brief thoughts . . .

Quote
4. Sherman graduated second in his class in high school and also graduated from Stanford. So not only is he not a fool, odds are he’s smarter than you and me.

5. His degree from Stanford was in communications … which might explain why, while he seemed to be hollering like a crazy person, he didn’t curse and looked into the camera the whole time.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 20, 2014, 10:50:47 am
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13. As a side note: Richard Sherman also called out Skip Bayless on Bayless’ own show, which trumps pretty much anything bad that Richard Sherman has done in his life.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 20, 2014, 05:12:14 pm
Sherman graduated with a 3.9 from Stanford - but bear in mind the only grades you can receive under their grading system are "A" or "B".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on January 25, 2014, 06:05:31 am
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/10346582/2013-nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-ticket-prices-continue-plummet
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 13, 2014, 07:50:07 am
Team U.S.A. is destroying Team Slovakia 7-1 late 2nd period.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 13, 2014, 08:39:29 am
No one cares.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 13, 2014, 09:20:16 am
Betcha Team Slovakia cares.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 13, 2014, 09:29:56 am
I don't watch that much olympic coverage except for hockey, just posted for shits n' grins... ;D
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on February 13, 2014, 12:40:19 pm
Wow. Shits doesn't get censored?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 13, 2014, 12:45:27 pm
No, just g a m b l e.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 13, 2014, 12:45:35 pm
Wow. Shits doesn't get censored?
whoa...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 13, 2014, 12:51:17 pm
Wow. Shits doesn't get censored?
No, just g a m b l e.
Or were you referring to Davep?  My bad.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 13, 2014, 04:19:30 pm
Don't think gamble does anymore...

Or ****, or pretty much anything else...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 13, 2014, 04:46:06 pm
Does Dxxxp?  Oh good.  It does.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on February 20, 2014, 01:52:17 pm


(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/l/t1/1912247_294548797359769_1289674234_n.jpg)



Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 28, 2014, 12:14:25 am
According to ESPN, the Bulls are close to signing Jimmer Fredette.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 28, 2014, 01:25:33 am
It cant hurt. I wish they were more concerned with extending Thibodeaux though. He's as good as it gets.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on February 28, 2014, 07:29:44 am
My favorite player from my alma mater with my favorite team.  :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on February 28, 2014, 04:27:29 pm


      (http://cdn2-www.hoopsvibe.com/assets/uploads/2013/02/file_170597_0_michael-jordan-cigar.jpg)

Michael Jordan earned more in 2013 than nearly any active athlete

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-sp-sn-michael-jordan-90-million-20140228,0,6892675.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-sp-sn-michael-jordan-90-million-20140228,0,6892675.story)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 28, 2014, 10:00:52 pm
The Bulls win in Dallas against the red-hot Mavs. They've won 8 of 9 and have the most wins in the East since the start of '14.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 01, 2014, 06:46:10 pm
Nick Friedell ‏@NickFriedell  2h
Jimmer Fredette has officially cleared waivers and will sign with the Bulls, according to a league source.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 01, 2014, 07:28:45 pm
He cant hurt.

We need shooters.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 01, 2014, 07:57:04 pm
Both statements are true, but hard to see who he takes minutes from unless someone gets hurt.  OTOH with Hinrich that's a when and not an if.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 09, 2014, 02:39:16 pm
The Bulls aren't going to win anything this year, but I sure love watching Jimmy Butler play.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 09, 2014, 04:14:40 pm
Noah has really blossomed with the offense running through him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 09, 2014, 04:50:03 pm
There isn't a better basketball coach in America than Tom Thibodeau.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on March 20, 2014, 02:07:45 pm
Dayton 60, Ohio State 59

A high percentage of the entrants in the billion dollar bracket challenge are already busted.

Ohio State's #10 could have blocked Dayton's winning shot but it looked like he was afraid of a goaltending call and pulled his hand back.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 23, 2014, 08:33:34 pm
Boy how many of you had my Big Orange in the sweet 16? I know I didnt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 07, 2014, 09:20:53 pm
Bulls re-sign Ronnie Brewer. Can Bogans be far behind?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 19, 2014, 06:04:01 pm
I hate to see the Hawks lose to the Blues, but it appears all but inevitable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on April 21, 2014, 07:06:20 am
I hate to see the Hawks lose to the Blues, but it appears all but inevitable.

Blues seem to have their number, that's for sure.  Hawks definitely not playing with the intensity the Blues have been.  Obviously a "must win" scenario tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 21, 2014, 10:31:58 am
What a crappy playoff week it's been for Chicago sports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 21, 2014, 12:56:22 pm
No kidding, Robb.

Blackhawks game tonight will be interesting (just a bit of understatement there). Will Blues headhunt/retaliate and/or will Blackhawks get caught up in that type of play if St. Louis goes that route? If so, the Hawks are dumb and deserve whatever happens. Hopefully the Blackhawks remember who they are, and use skill and speed and focus on puck possession  (especially when it looks as though Backes won't play for St. Louis, and so the Blues just won't have very much skill on the ice to begin with).

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 21, 2014, 01:00:16 pm
I expect the Hawks to get swept.  Their coach lost his cool (obscene gesture), and a team leader lost his cool.  They are just not championship material (and haven't played like real contenders for most of the season, IMO).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 21, 2014, 03:24:27 pm
Eh, I don't think Seabrook lost his cool. Just went for a big hit and missed too high. It happens occasionally.

I agree about the Hawks' play this year, and Toews and Kane being at less than 100% doesn't help matters.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 21, 2014, 03:35:11 pm
Blackhawks have played all year like a team who believed they could flip the switch in the playoffs.  They do have the elite talent to do that, but it seems like a pretty bad idea to wait until now to find out.
 
And Kane in particular looks pretty compromised by his injury.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Pistol on April 22, 2014, 07:08:32 pm
Is there any way to watch the NBA playoffs online?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 22, 2014, 07:26:32 pm
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Is there any way to watch the NBA playoffs online?

http://fırstrowsports.eu/basketball
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 22, 2014, 09:32:42 pm
http://fırstrowsports.eu/basketball

The king of popup ads... I always worry about virii with that site.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 22, 2014, 10:09:38 pm
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The king of popup ads...

Don't you have Ad-Block? I've yet to encounter an issue with the site.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 22, 2014, 11:17:08 pm
The Bulls just don't have anyone who can score when the shyte goes down. And adding Rose back in isn't going to be enough.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 22, 2014, 11:31:04 pm
Refs deserves at least 50% of the credit for that result.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 22, 2014, 11:33:32 pm
In the long run it's probably better if Paxson is under no delusions that this team is remotely close to being a contender.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 22, 2014, 11:45:34 pm
Paxson doesn't have the wallet. It's Reinsdorf who won't pay for a winner.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 23, 2014, 01:00:17 am
That's really not the biggest problem here by a long shot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 23, 2014, 01:16:55 am
I'd say it's 50/50.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 23, 2014, 01:42:58 am
The Bulls were 5th in the league in payroll this year and they were over the tax threshold last season and would have been again without trading Deng.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 23, 2014, 03:55:40 pm
They don't want to be over the threshold which is why they dumped Deng for next to nothing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 23, 2014, 07:22:27 pm
They don't want to be over the threshold which is why they dumped Deng for next to nothing.

Being over the threshold two years in a row magnifies the penalties exponentially, so it's not hard to understand why they'd trade Deng rather than lose him as a FA and get nothing back at all.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 23, 2014, 10:26:48 pm
Trading Deng was a brilliant move.  Their offense and defense improved when he left.  He did nothing for Cleveland.  He was a system player, nothing more.  He was certainly not worth keeping for the repeater tax.  If the Bulls wanted to have any shot at an impact player in free agency, they had to get rid of Deng's salary. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 23, 2014, 10:40:57 pm
Trading Deng for next to nothing isn't brilliant. And it probably should be remembered that the Bulls had the best defense in the league two of the years Deng was there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 23, 2014, 10:42:18 pm
Or you could have kept him and let him leave for no return whatsoever, gone into the repeater tax and torpedoed any chance of making an impact move in FA this offseason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 23, 2014, 10:43:27 pm
Blackhawks blew a 2 goal lead in about 2 minutes.  Geesh, it's a Chicago epidemic.  I think I need a break from sports for a while.  Either that or I need to become a Heat fan.  They got guys like Norris Coles and Birdman Anderson playing out of their minds for them and if anything goes wrong they can just drive the ball into an opponent and flop for free throws.  Ugh what a week.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 23, 2014, 10:44:59 pm
Once Rose went down any chance of sniffing a title went with him.  At that point paying the repeater tax would have been as dumb as giving Soriano an 8 year contract.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 24, 2014, 06:47:42 am
I guess I was wrong about the Hawks getting swept.  Still it's going to be tough to win in St. Louis.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on April 24, 2014, 01:05:44 pm
hawks in 7
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 25, 2014, 09:38:09 pm
8 threes for Dunleavy, breaking Jordan's playoff franchise record.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 26, 2014, 08:56:46 am
So for the Bulls to win, they need Dunleavy to hit 8 threes and for Nene to get tossed. That doesn't seem like a sound strategy going forward.
Thibs will probably figure out something else.

And TSN had this to say about the Blackhawks:
Including last year's playoffs, in games 1,2 & 3 of each series the Hawks have a 7 - 8 record.

In games 4,5,6 & 7 the Hawks have a record of 12 - 1.

Once the Hawks figure you out, its over.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 26, 2014, 10:22:44 am
I'm not so confident that past performance is highly predictive.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 26, 2014, 10:43:38 am
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I'm not so confident that past performance is highly predictive.

Now just how long have you been a Cubs fan? :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 26, 2014, 10:44:48 am
Well, recently the Cubs have been historically bad.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 26, 2014, 11:26:33 am
That formula may be intact in game four.  Word is Nene may be suspended.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 26, 2014, 11:55:04 am
How 'bout them 'Hawks??!!!...down 2 games to zip and go on 3 zip run.....need settle the series on Sunday....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 26, 2014, 01:47:27 pm
Hopefully the bulls can accomplish the same.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 26, 2014, 04:24:18 pm
Not sure the Blackhawks have the Blues figured out. It took the save of the year from Crawford and a couple of missed open nets to get out of last night's game alive. Not to mention the fortunate deflection to Toews in OT. And the Hawks got outplayed pretty badly in game three despite winning.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 26, 2014, 10:19:20 pm

roid rage?



NBA suspends Nene for Game 4

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-nba-suspends-nene-for-game-4-20140426,0,7268459.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-nba-suspends-nene-for-game-4-20140426,0,7268459.story)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 27, 2014, 03:57:37 pm
Blackhawks should be losing about 6-1. When you basically don't use two of the  forwards who are in uniform and spend the whole game in the penalty box against a team as good as St. Louis, man, hawks are lucky to be tied.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 27, 2014, 04:04:30 pm
Hawks have been outplayed in this series and even if they were to win, they'll likely have to get through Colorado and SJ or Anaheim just to get to the Finals, an unlikely scenario.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 27, 2014, 05:04:36 pm
Blackhawks survive a penalty fest in the 2nd period and blow the game open in the 3rd to take the series. Crawford probably the biggest difference.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 27, 2014, 05:48:20 pm
Sure, we all saw that coming. Heh.
Reminded me in some ways of a Bulls - Knicks game 7 back in the first 3-peat period. A really tense series that the Chicago team blew open for a easy game 7 (though my memory is probably off on that).

But like you said Chris, there are a bunch of really formidable teams left in the west. The Avalanche remind me a little of the 2010 Blackhawks with all of their young, fast, skilled players (though I think Matt Duschene, maybe their best player, is injured). Hopefully the Hawks get some time off to rest.

But always nice to break the hearts of St. Louis sports' fans. Onward.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 13, 2014, 11:37:15 pm
HAWKS!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on May 14, 2014, 08:20:25 am
Great game to end a very challenging series, their luck the residue of hard work...Kings&Ducks battle on...pulling for the Habs over Bruins...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 14, 2014, 09:07:22 am
Fantastic effort by Crawford last night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 14, 2014, 11:04:35 am
I never have much confidence in Crawford, bet he seems to come through a lot.  The Wild played great and applied a lot more pressure than I expected.  Love this Blackhawks team.

Here a great article about their resolve compared to the Penguins.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/columnist/allen/2014/05/12/penguins-rangers-blackhawks-wild-column/9021787/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 14, 2014, 12:42:16 pm
There's a major difference between the Hawks and Pens. Pittsburgh had to face Lundqvist while the Hawks faced a 4th stringer. Yet the Hawks still only scored a few legit goals the last four games of their series.

Glad they won, but I don't think they've played more than 2-1/2 good games the entire playoffs. Can't imagine they win the Cup unless they pick it up substantially.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 14, 2014, 01:02:19 pm
I agree with your basic premise, Chris.  The 'Hawks seem to play as if they can turn it on at any time, but that is not likely to be enough to go all the way.  Of course, it's possible that they are going to shift into another gear for the Conference Finals and (hopefully) Stanley Cup round.  I'm not going to give up on them again (the way I did after they lost the first 2 games to St. Louis).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on May 14, 2014, 05:17:10 pm
Whether trusting the eye test or advanced hockey stats (which I don't really grasp, but I do check out blogs where they are discussed), the Hawks were outplayed last night and for big chunks of the series. But, not unlike baseball, once you are in a playoff series, things happen that allow the team playing less-well to win -- at least one series. But it's not a good plan for long-term success over four series.

The Hawks do still have 4 truly elite forwards who are threats to score all the time, and the luxury of two solid defensive pairings. And obviously Crawford is good enough.  That's not something the other teams can necessarily say. Nobody looks forward to playing the Blackhawks. But maybe they don't fear playing them as much this year. the Blackhawks chances of winning the cup seem lower for sure than what they were at this point in the other two championship runs.

I would love an Chicago-NYC final (so would NBC!).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 14, 2014, 07:42:54 pm
Yeah, the Wild did out play the Hawks.  They kept the puck in their offensive zone most of the time plus they stayed out of the penalty box.  The big difference it seems the Hawks compared to most teams is they are not physical - which can lead to more turnovers.  But as a team they are certainly more skilled than anyone which can lead to a flurry of goals or even fluke goals.  They can strike at any moment.  But they are not going to wear teams down.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 20, 2014, 08:22:02 pm

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Eagle_Stadium.jpg)


$60 million high school stadium won't reopen for 2014 football season due to safety concerns

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/05/allen-high-school-stadium (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/05/allen-high-school-stadium)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on May 21, 2014, 10:17:48 pm
And by the way, what the hell happened to the Blackhawks tonight. They haven't had a period like that 3rd period in, roughly, forever.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on May 22, 2014, 08:55:11 am
Yeah the breakdown in 3rd was epic, looked like the 'Hawks were sleepwalking , but it was bound to happen after going 6-0 at home during the SC playoffs...get 'em in LA...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 22, 2014, 09:45:17 am
I have stopped trying to figure out the 'Hawks.  Just hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on May 22, 2014, 01:29:00 pm
Would've been nice to go into LA with a 2-0 lead.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on May 22, 2014, 01:31:51 pm
hawks in 7 games
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on May 28, 2014, 10:47:39 pm
Well, obviously everyone knew Handzus would be the hero.

 Brandon Saad is on the cusp of stardom, isn't he?

But in game 6 Quenville needs to figure out how to play more than 7 forwards (both Bollig and Versteeg barely played in a game that went to a second OT, and Handzus really played very little at even strength).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 28, 2014, 10:53:29 pm
Still too much dead weight on the Hawks though, and still too much leeway give in the defensive zone. They played hard tonight though, I'll give them that. Don't think they win in LA, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 28, 2014, 10:59:38 pm
Gotta give the 'Hawks credit for battling.  The Kings are tough, but not unbeatable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 28, 2014, 11:00:20 pm
Saad was the best player on the ice tonight.  What's wrong with Sharp?  He's basically disappeared.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on May 30, 2014, 02:26:30 pm
The Hawks need to play an entire game the way they played the first overtime period in game 5.  Until then, the Kings skated circles around them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on May 30, 2014, 10:41:42 pm
Someday I hope to have grandchildren. And if so lucky, I will tell them stories about Patrick Kane.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 30, 2014, 11:00:28 pm
Someday I hope to have grandchildren. And if so lucky, I will tell them stories about Patrick Kane.

Maybe the Chicago Cubs will one day have a player as great as Patrick Kane.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 30, 2014, 11:00:36 pm
Or the Nashville Predators for that matter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 01, 2014, 07:52:35 pm
Helluva 1st period 'Hawks 3-2 over el ay....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 01, 2014, 08:00:15 pm
The Hawks just don't place good defense anymore.

I'm pretty certain the Kings could tackle a Hawks player at center ice and interference wouldn't be called.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 01, 2014, 08:17:11 pm
I agree the Kings getting away with serious mugging...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 01, 2014, 09:47:35 pm
O.T.  tied at 4
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 01, 2014, 09:48:55 pm
2-0, 3-2, and 4-3 leads gone.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 01, 2014, 10:12:42 pm
The Hawks complete the collapse.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 01, 2014, 10:22:30 pm
I can now devote my full sports attention to the Cubs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 01, 2014, 10:29:32 pm
I can now devote my full sports attention to the Cubs.

My condolences.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 02, 2014, 07:46:05 am
Is it football season yet?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 02, 2014, 07:46:40 am
Didn't think 'Hawks would lose a game 7 , at home...moving on to honey do list...crap!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 02, 2014, 07:48:00 am
Didn't think 'Hawks would lose a game 7 , at home...moving on to honey do list...crap!
That's on your honey do list, too?  Miralax is very good for that, AZ.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 02, 2014, 07:58:45 am
Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on June 06, 2014, 07:47:54 am
I know I'm late, but it was hard getting over that loss.  I did not think they would lose that game at all or to the Kings at all.   A lot of bad unlucky goals and spotty defense.  They need to hit more.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on June 09, 2014, 11:25:49 am
I know I'm late, but it was hard getting over that loss.  I did not think they would lose that game at all or to the Kings at all.   A lot of bad unlucky goals and spotty defense.  They need to hit more.

Agreed.  They were getting beat around pretty good, but didn't do much hitting themselves.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 11, 2014, 11:29:07 pm
So apparently Riley is planning to fudge everyone's contract and sign Anthony in Miami. What a farce.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 12, 2014, 12:49:00 am
If that happens the NBA is nothing but a joke. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 12, 2014, 01:55:18 am
It aint cheating. Its just finding loopholes in the system just like mlb executives have learned to manipulate the slotting system in the draft. Truth is the only reason we would care is because some have dreams of Melo to Chicago. If it was the Bulls doing it we'd all be praising Gar Forman. As a faithful Bulls fan myself Im not gonna be heartbroke if he dont come. Melo's the classic example of the girl youre dieing to bang and when you finally do you look back on it and think 'is that it?' Im not so sure he's got it in him to lead a team to a title. If he has to ride Lebron's coattails then you'll know he's not either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 12, 2014, 02:09:30 am
Melo to Chicago has nothing to do with it for me - I'd much rather chase Kevin Love.  It would be a travesty of its own merits.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 12, 2014, 03:09:06 am
Id rather sign Melo than trade for Love.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 12, 2014, 09:38:02 am
I second Deeg's comment.  Regardless of whether Melo plays for the Bulls, the Heat manipulating the system to load up their team would make the NBA season regular and post a joke.  It's bad enough with all the ring chasers who play for nothing for the Heat so they can win a ring.  I'm not saying the Heat are even doing anything wrong either.  It just isn't good for the league.  I know I would lose a lot of interest in watching the NBA if this happens. 

On the Melo front, I think the far most likely circumstance is he either opts in to the last year of his deal or resigns with NY.  After all he pulled to become a Knick, I can't see him leaving.  Especially not for a pay cut. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 12, 2014, 11:06:42 pm
I sure hope the Spurs can finish off the Heat Sunday.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 12, 2014, 11:19:45 pm
Amen brother Robb...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 14, 2014, 07:21:45 pm
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New York Knicks star Carmelo Anthony is leaning toward leaving in pursuit of immediate championship contention, and awaits the Chicago Bulls and Houston Rockets to clear the necessary salary-cap space to sign him in free agency, league sources told Yahoo Sports. Yahoo! Sports
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 14, 2014, 08:59:51 pm
He's such a pud. God forbid he take 1 less year on his contract to let the team acquiring him keep as much talent as possible. He's just yearning for a ring.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 15, 2014, 09:05:33 pm
Heat getting blown out. At least there's that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 15, 2014, 09:54:18 pm
Poor Lebron.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 15, 2014, 10:10:17 pm
What a nice Father's Day present.  Thanks Spurs!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 15, 2014, 10:13:57 pm
I don't understand.  Don't you go to the Heat to get a ring?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 16, 2014, 03:45:04 pm
In a stunning announcement, the Washington Redskins have announced that they will change their nickname beginning this fall.  They are changing to the Foreskins to reflect the fact that the inhabitants of DC tend to dick all of us.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 16, 2014, 03:47:27 pm
Perhaps the Chicago Cubs will change their nickname to that for pretty much the same reason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 16, 2014, 07:08:39 pm
What a finish by Brooks on that corner.  A huge three points.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 16, 2014, 07:13:10 pm
What?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 22, 2014, 10:18:02 pm
As someone who'd rather watch a 90 year old woman sun bathe than watch soccer it absolutely warmed my heart to see all the Americans flat out devastated after that late game tieing goal by Portugal.

The US being that much closer to being eliminated means my tv is that much closer to being void of soccer.

I BELIEVE...I BELIEVE THE US CHOKED!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2014, 10:49:11 pm
Classy as usual.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 22, 2014, 11:01:02 pm
Jiggy, I don't care for soccer either, but I still root for my country's team.  The performance of the team so far, even in tying a world class team like Portugal is so much improved over 15 or 20 years ago that it's amazing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 23, 2014, 12:24:52 am
Truthfully Curt I wouldnt know. As far as rooting for my country Ill use this example. My blood absolutely runs UT orange yet I root against the Lady Vols as if they're the Florida Gators for reasons I wont get into. Thats how I feel about the USA. In almost all other circumstances I would root for my country.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 23, 2014, 01:02:25 am
It's not such a surprise that many Americans dislike soccer (though sadly for them it's growing more popular in the US every year), but what's really funny to me is how many seem to be morally outraged at the idea that other people do like it.  And that somehow being ignorant of soccer gives you some kind of Lee Greenwood-esque patriotism boost.


As for the game, Portugal is the #4 team in the world and a draw against them on this stage is a good result.  It's a heartbreaking draw, but a good result.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 23, 2014, 01:39:10 am
I dont feel like disliking soccer gives me a patriotism boost by any means. My problem with it is how its forcefed down our throats when clearly only a minority of people in America care for it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 23, 2014, 01:42:32 am
If we're gonna be forcefed soccer they'd just as well make us watch the world water polo championships or the croquet world series or whatever they call it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 23, 2014, 02:21:33 am
Whether you all believe it or not there isnt a racist bone in my body. You have to remember that I married a flat out scalding hot Philipino girl so dont take this the wrong way but I can honestly say that the ONLY person that I know who has even mentioned the world cup is a white lady that I know who married a Mexican and of course she would because soccer is the most popular sport in Mexico.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on June 23, 2014, 08:36:45 am
My family is a sports family - it doesn't really matter the event.  If its a major event, we generally watch.  We are watching the World Cup and enjoying it.  We actually watch the Tour de France every year too.  The Olympics, the Frozen Four, etc. 

And, Jiggy, if you have only heard 1 person say something about it - how is being force fed down your throat?  Sportscenter?  I actually stopped watching that years ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 23, 2014, 09:37:31 am
I have always hated soccer but I watched yesterday just to see what it's all about and found myself yelling at the TV just as much as hockey or basketball.  Still not a favorite sport but yesterday's match was very exciting although the ending was very Cub like.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 23, 2014, 09:40:01 am
I wonder if Jigs still has his red Bolsheviks jacket and cap from back in the day . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioPW3ZdjO7s
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 23, 2014, 09:40:49 am
Just giving you a hard time there, Jigs.  :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 23, 2014, 10:01:09 am
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Sportscenter?  I actually stopped watching that years ago.

ESPN does have a bad habit of stuffing their various properties down your throats, so if you're not a soccer fan or don't care anything about the World Cup, I can see how you can be a little annoyed by it.  Goodness knows, I get tired of seeing ESPN stuff Johnny Manziel and the National Football League (never just "NFL" with them) in the middle of baseball season and the basketball and hockey playoffs.

Still, the World Cup is a big deal, and while I'm not a big soccer fan either, I really enjoy watching it every four years.  I think going to a World Cup game in '94 and experiencing it live was a big part of it for me and for a lot of casual fans out there.  About the only times I pay attention to soccer is during the World Cup or whenever the U.S. national team is playing in Nashville (which sells out every time they're over here).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on June 23, 2014, 11:31:19 am
I've been loving the Cup - my Costa Rica is doing unbelievably well!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 23, 2014, 07:27:17 pm
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The United States’ 2-2 World Cup draw with Portugal is almost certainly the most-viewed soccer match ever in the United States.

The Nielsen company said Monday that the gripping game was seen by an average of 24.7 million viewers Sunday evening on ESPN and Univision.


ESPN said the 18.2 million people who watched on the sports network made it the most-watched non-football — that is, American football — event in the network’s history. The telecast hit a peak of nearly 23 million viewers between 5:30 and 6 p.m. MDT.

With an audience of 25 million viewers for Sunday’s game between the United States and Portugal, the World Cup is moving into elite territory as a sports property on American television. Ratings for the game were the highest for any soccer game telecast in America and reached more viewers than events like the N.B.A. finals or the World Series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 24, 2014, 08:37:43 am
And LeBron opts out.  Let the circus begin - although this is likely just trying to pressure ownership into going deep in the luxury tax to try and win next season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 25, 2014, 03:26:49 am
Ill be the biggest Virginia Cavaliers fan in America tomorrow (Wednesday) night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 25, 2014, 09:55:02 am
Hey, Virginia today and Germany tomorrow!  :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 25, 2014, 11:03:53 am
Virgina's coach is a former Creighton player and is one of the three players in the statue in front of TD Ameritrade Park.  It depicts the celebration of Creighton's win in the CWS under Jim Hendry, FWIW.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 25, 2014, 11:31:36 am
Yep JR.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on June 25, 2014, 11:02:03 pm
Anchor Down Jiggs!! National Champs!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 25, 2014, 11:26:45 pm
Anchor Down Jiggs!! National Champs!

Yeah that was just a really great moment.  Congrats over there, Vandy!

I'm absolutely thrilled for Tim Corbin and the rest of that team. What he's done with Vanderbilt baseball is nothing short of remarkable. Not too many coaches in sports who are as good as him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 26, 2014, 09:12:40 am
Like they said last night...that probably was the two best teams in the country going at it for the championship.

Despite their losses on draft day, Vandy might be even stronger next season...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 10:04:02 am
Scratch Afflalo off the list - he's been traded to Denver for Evan Fournier and a 2nd-round pick.  Hard to imagine we couldn't have beaten that if we really wanted him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 26, 2014, 01:02:36 pm
Am I a bad person because I have apathy towards the World Cup?  I wish I could build up the hatred of Jiggs or just care about it in general.  If people weren't talking about it on twitter, I wouldn't have known the the US played a game today and is advancing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 01:07:32 pm
What a stressful 2 hours, but we survived the group of death.  And as happy as I am for US soccer, I'm even happier because it ruined Jiggy's day.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2014, 01:23:13 pm
It hasnt ruined my day. I didnt even know they were playing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2014, 02:16:40 pm
LMAO The way you all were talking I thought the  US had won and now I see that not only did they lose but didnt even score. All they did was delay the inevitable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 07:49:58 pm
Bulls about to trade for McBuckets.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 26, 2014, 08:00:09 pm
Yes, Yes, Yes.  Love me some Doug.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 08:15:37 pm
I'm OK with this deal, although I think Stauskas is going to be the better NBA player.  Bigger question is how this impacts the potential hunt for Melo or Love.

This could be the "Plan C" rumbling into place - McDermott, Mirotic and Gasol or something like that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 26, 2014, 08:25:17 pm
Doug is Kyle Korver with ability to score inside.  It saves $900,000 against the cap and likely Dunlevy is headed out as well which would be another $3 million in savings. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 08:27:25 pm
True, but just to play devil's advocate, could have had Harris at 16 and the #19 as a chip.

I like McDermott - I think he can score in the NBA.  But who is he going to guard?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 26, 2014, 08:33:52 pm
He is better on D than you think and more athletic.  He will struggle against super athletic 3, but he can match up with 4's as well.  If Rose is healthy he will get plenty of looks.  The Bulls have been scouting him for a couple of years and they have seen him live a number of times.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2014, 08:35:13 pm
The Bulls got their man. I cant hate on it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 08:59:41 pm
Bulls are also getting Anthony Randolph in the McBuckets trade.  It's easy to overinterpret the tea leaves, but that has sign & trade to Knicks written all over it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 26, 2014, 09:05:07 pm
Somebody tweeted that Melo is going to Chicago and was retweeted ABTY.  No clue on how accurate it is.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 26, 2014, 09:07:50 pm
I knew the Bulls would get Anthony.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 09:09:24 pm
Somebody tweeted that Melo is going to Chicago and was retweeted ABTY.  No clue on how accurate it is.

Remember LeBron.  It's all guesswork right now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 26, 2014, 09:09:59 pm
I meant Randolph.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 09:57:56 pm
Heat supposedly getting Kyle Lowery in a S & T.  That takes them out of Anthony, probably, but Lowery is a heckuva player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2014, 10:49:27 pm
Bulls take Cameron Bairstow, the Aussie Lobo, in the second round.  I kind of like him - not huge (6'9") but very strong, good mid-range jumper and surprisingly quick.  Also a bit of a bulldog mentality guy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FDISK on June 26, 2014, 11:45:16 pm
Bairstow will set the standard in the weight room. He is an animal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 01, 2014, 05:05:48 pm
GOOOAAALLL!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 01, 2014, 05:15:51 pm
GOOOAAALLLLLLL!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 04, 2014, 01:04:16 am
Seems as though Anthony is heading back to New York. Bulls will probably be the same minus Boozer and Augustin, but plus McDermott and Mirotic.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 04, 2014, 03:04:00 am
Although Ive always suspected he'd go back to the Knicks why do you think this?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 04, 2014, 03:23:36 am
It's always seemed likely that Anthony would take $129 million over $64 million, which is all the Bulls are offering unless Pax can talk Phil into a sign-and-trade.  And all the buzz now is along those lines.

I actually wouldn't mind seeing the Bulls get Gasol if they do lose out on Melo - I think he has a couple of good years left in the tank.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 04, 2014, 08:52:43 am
Mirotic apparently completed his buyout from Real Madrid today.  You would think he and the Bulls would be working hand-in-hand here, but there's a sense that he may be trying to force their hand.  Very odd.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 04, 2014, 11:14:21 am
I thought the Bulls could offer Melo 89 million?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 04, 2014, 12:04:30 pm
If they give away Dunleavy, Butler and Gibson for nothing they can get to around $80 million for four seasons.  The only way they can get to a max contract or close is via sign-and-trade, which Phil doesn't seem much interested in.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 04, 2014, 12:08:57 pm
They can keep Butler and Gibson and still offer around 17 per due to all the unguaranteeds they have.  It's never been about money though.  Either Meo would take less to win or take the max available.  Having watched him play his entire career I don't know why anyone ever thought he wouldn't take the money. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 04, 2014, 01:02:41 pm
I think there's a cutoff at which point he'd take the money, and at which he'd go for the ring.  There's a big difference between $64 million over four years and $96 over four years, which is what the Lakers could offer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 08, 2014, 10:56:04 pm
Maybe Jigs would like soccer better if Jim Ross was calling the games.

http://screamer.deadspin.com/here-is-j-r-jim-ross-calling-the-brazil-germany-firs-1601968953/+bubbaprog
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 08, 2014, 10:59:10 pm
For that matter, he might like the Super Bowl better if Jim Ross was calling it.

http://deadspin.com/watch-your-super-bowl-highlights-as-narrated-by-j-r-1514625138
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Post by: guest61 on July 09, 2014, 12:32:07 am
LOL
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 09, 2014, 09:49:37 am
Looks like LeBron to the Cavs may have legs - he's told them to dump players and they are.
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Post by: BearHit on July 09, 2014, 10:13:59 am
LBJ for PRESIDENT!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 10, 2014, 08:25:12 am
Boy, James seems to be headed back to Cleveland, which would mean Bosh to Houston in a max deal.  And Wade is well and truly screwed - he opted out of a max deal to try and work with LBJ to get some help, and now he's not getting anywhere close to that and if he wants any chance to compete for another ring, he has to bolt himself.

Of course this could be a giant smokescreen and James could be going back to Miami.
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Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 10, 2014, 03:10:05 pm
Boy, James seems to be headed back to Cleveland, which would mean Bosh to Houston in a max deal. And Wade is well and truly screwed - he opted out of a max deal to try and work with LBJ to get some help, and now he's not getting anywhere close to that and if he wants any chance to compete for another ring, he has to bolt himself.

Of course this could be a giant smokescreen and James could be going back to Miami.

I'm hoping that happens as I'd love for Wade to get screwed big time $$-wise after how he deceived the Bulls while he was Pat Riley's spy during free-agency 4 years ago.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 11, 2014, 12:21:48 pm
Lebron back to Cleveland. I must admit that he looks a lot less **** now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 11, 2014, 12:32:33 pm
One would think that the Bulls would now be an even more attractive destination for Carmelo.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 11, 2014, 01:05:00 pm
I still think he's a Knick.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 11, 2014, 07:35:37 pm
One would think that the Bulls would now be an even more attractive destination for Carmelo.

Unless you feel Carmelo would rather not be in the same division staring up at LeBron's team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on July 11, 2014, 07:42:28 pm
I'm quite confident that Anthony will puss out and take the money, just like Bosh.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 11, 2014, 08:00:22 pm
I find it pretty hilarious that Frank Isola, the boob who "100%" said Melo was re-signing Thursday, now says he spoke to Melo Wednesday and he made no commitment, just that this was incredibly tough, blah blah...

It's also funny to see this painted as some kind of agonizing choice.  It's very simple - if we wants the best chance to win, he goes to Chicago.  If he wants the most money, he stays in NY.  Anthony can't hide here - if he decides to stay there will be no disguising what drives him.  Right now I think it's 50-50%.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on July 11, 2014, 08:08:42 pm
50-50?  Are you hopped up on the dope?  5-95.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 11, 2014, 08:31:39 pm
If Anthony was that sold on signing in NY, I don't think he would have held out this long - what's the point?  I think he's waiting to see if the Bulls will gut the roster to make the money closer, or somehow talk Phil into a S/T.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 11, 2014, 08:58:01 pm
Twitter exploding with Anthony to Bulls rumors, with the hangup being Phil's refusal to S/T.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 11, 2014, 09:05:37 pm
Wasn't Anythony waiting to see if he could shoehorn his way into James' future team?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 11, 2014, 09:15:47 pm
Some believe so, but that's just one theory.  In any case that ship has certainly sailed now.
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Post by: Deeg on July 11, 2014, 10:48:30 pm

 Retweeted by Alex Kennedy
 Pau Gasol ‏@paugasol  6h
I'm very close to deciding. Thank you all for your interest and support! #FreeAgency
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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on July 11, 2014, 11:58:51 pm
Thank you for posting that non-sequester...........................

No way we get pau and carmello.... ust no way.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 12, 2014, 12:22:53 am
Spanish sports magazine "Marca" reports that Gasol has a deal with the Bulls, not a S/T.  Make of it what you will.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 12, 2014, 12:49:36 am
The Bulls must not like Taj Gibson as much as they claim to be going after Gasol like they are. And I still say Melo's a Knick.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 12, 2014, 12:54:11 am
Now saying it is a S/T.  It might actually be a S/T for Gibson, which would allow the Bulls more cap space to make Anthony a straight-up offer and force Phil's hand.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 12, 2014, 12:55:56 am
Adrian Wojnarowski confirms Gasol about to agree with the Bulls.  He's been about the most reliable reporter this cycle - the ESPN guys have blown pretty much everything and guys like Stein seem to be basically copy/pasting what he tweets.
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Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 12, 2014, 01:34:51 am

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 12, 2014, 01:51:31 am
It's not going to be difficult for the Bulls to find a taker for Gibson - he's a solid role player.  If Anthony were to commit to the Bulls they could then go to the Knicks and say, "Look - we have to deal Gibson either way.  We can trade him elsewhere and sign Melo for $19M and you get nothing, or trade him to you along with a 1st-rounder and a trade exception for Melo.  Is it really important enough to deny Melo a few million per year that you'd rather get nothing than three tangible assets?"

Of course, all of that is contingent on Melo wanting to choose the Bulls - and being willing to commit to them and force Phil's hand.  May never happen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 12, 2014, 01:56:08 am
Now seeing reports that 670 said that Gasol may be signing for the MLE.  If so, holy crap - that would be a very, very strong pro-Melo sign.  And what a move by Pau.  Obviously being 6000 miles away I have no idea what specifically was reported, and by whom.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 12, 2014, 12:15:30 pm
Looks like Melo is taking the money after all.  Guess I can't blame him, it is a lot of money.  I just don't want to hear him say he cares more about winning than money.  If the Bulls can add Ariza to Gasol and McDermott I like this off-season just fine.  How sweet would it be for Melo to watch the Bulls win a chip from home for the next few years.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 12, 2014, 01:16:57 pm
If the Bulls are banking on Doug McDermitt and a past-his-prime Gasol to lead them to a title....... Hell, the Cavs may end up better than the Heat by the time they finish with their roster.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 12, 2014, 01:47:40 pm
Interesting analysis of Carmelo's value:  http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/05/carmelo-anthony-way-overrated/361528/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 12, 2014, 05:16:46 pm
Pau announced on Twitter that he's a Bull. Seeing that there is no super team in the East anymore if we could get Mirotic to come over they could be pretty strong.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 12, 2014, 06:27:39 pm
Need a wing player from somewhere though.  Joe Johnson has a poison pill of a contract which is too bad, he would be exactly what they need.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 12, 2014, 07:24:55 pm
In a vacuum I love adding Gasol - class guy, basketball IQ off the charts, terrific pick and roll and post player on offense.  But if he and Mirotic are it, this roster is nowhere close to finals-caliber.  Mirotic is basically a redshirt, because as the third PF behind Gasol and Taj he'll never get minutes - and against a lot of teams the 4 is the only place McDermott can ply if he's going to get minutes.  This team desperately needs an athletic wing who can create and unless they intend to trade Gibson for one (or the cap space to sign Stephenson) I think the offseason is ultimately a faulure.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 13, 2014, 05:16:00 pm
 Retweeted by K.C. Johnson
 Nikola Mirotic ‏@nikolamirotic12  3m
I am very happy and excited to announce that next season I will be playing with the @chicagobulls . Today I fulfill a dream. #BullsNation
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 13, 2014, 05:24:01 pm
Hinrich and his 38% shooting are back too. Move over LeBron.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 13, 2014, 05:26:13 pm
Bulls offseason: McDermott, Gasol, Mirotic, Hinrich, Bairstow.

Donald Sterling approved...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 13, 2014, 06:24:10 pm
Sterling actually didn't like paying white players....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 13, 2014, 06:25:57 pm
Bulls have a lot of #4/5s.  Are they going to trade Taj?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 13, 2014, 07:34:27 pm
Bulls have a lot of #4/5s.  Are they going to trade Taj?

It's hard to explain this roster construction otherwise.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 13, 2014, 08:43:15 pm
Glad to see Captain Kirk back and Mirotic signed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 13, 2014, 09:11:16 pm
DJ Augustin signs with Detroit for just a bit more than Hinrich got. What a world.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 13, 2014, 10:39:59 pm
If you put a lot of stock into summer league games, Doug McDermott was 5-9 from three and 12-12 from the line for 31 points today for the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 13, 2014, 11:41:45 pm
He can join Marquis Teague and Anthony Randolph in the Hall-of-Fame....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 15, 2014, 06:34:48 pm
McDermott 7-13, 4 threes, 20 points, 5 boards, 6 assists today in the Summer League. His defense not exactly drawing rave reviews though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 15, 2014, 06:35:35 pm
Thibs will shape him up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 18, 2014, 01:21:21 pm
Looks like another boring major.  Rory running away with it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 19, 2014, 09:48:26 am
Really a joy watching Rory play - he has that higher gear that only the great ones have.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 19, 2014, 09:56:04 am
Two eagles in the last three holes - wow.  When McIlroy lost his lead, he just geared up and dusted the field.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 19, 2014, 10:03:52 am
I have to admit, I'm mildly amused by how well McIlroy has been playing since he broke off his engagement.  It's like that was the thing that got his golf game turned around.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 19, 2014, 10:32:16 am
Wouldn't be the first time such a thing has happened.  Bad relationships can do wonders to screw up an athlete.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 19, 2014, 10:39:51 am
But I know........it's my own damn fault.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 19, 2014, 10:42:59 am
But I know........it's my own damn fault.

Are you to blame for Hope Solo's wig-out?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 20, 2014, 12:38:42 pm
3 majors by 25: Nicklaus, Woods, Mcilroy.

Mcilroy's Dad and three mates - 200K Pounds richer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 26, 2014, 12:05:56 pm
Just watching 10 seconds of ESPN's wall to wall coverage of NFL training camp this week, does anyone have any idea what ESPN's big incentive is to stuff the NFL down everyone's throats?

Yeah I know it's the most popular sports league in America, and I like football like anyone else.   But good grief, it's training camp

It's basically like Roger Goodell runs that network nowadays.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on July 26, 2014, 12:12:15 pm
This is where MLB has a problem with Bud Selig.  ESPN is pretty much devoting 80% of their coverage this week to practice football while baseball is in the middle of the regular season, and MLB doesn't have a commissioner with the muscle or the influence to keep the NFL from more or less running that network.  Roger Goodell pretty much has ESPN covering his sport the way he wants it to be covered, and Bud Selig seems content to sit on the sidelines and twiddle his fingers.

The only time ESPN seems to really care about baseball is when the Red Sox have a game on a day Johnny Manziel is taking a break from partying, and occasionally they'll give a shout out to Yasiel Puig if he does something interesting. 

Other than that, MLB's influence with that network is next to nothing.  The next commissioner needs to change that.
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Post by: jacey1 on July 26, 2014, 01:57:47 pm
This is where MLB has a problem with Bud Selig.  ESPN is pretty much devoting 80% of their coverage this week to practice football while baseball is in the middle of the regular season, and MLB doesn't have a commissioner with the muscle or the influence to keep the NFL from more or less running that network.  Roger Goodell pretty much has ESPN covering his sport the way he wants it to be covered, and Bud Selig seems content to sit on the sidelines and twiddle his fingers.

The only time ESPN seems to really care about baseball is when the Red Sox have a game on a day Johnny Manziel is taking a break from partying, and occasionally they'll give a shout out to Yasiel Puig if he does something interesting. 

Other than that, MLB's influence with that network is next to nothing.  The next commissioner needs to change that.
Absolutely agree with this JR....Football owns ESPN and the new commissioner of MLB needs to somehow get some of the spotlight back
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 01, 2014, 10:16:24 pm
Today would be a good day to skip Sportscenter.  At least after eating.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 01, 2014, 10:32:08 pm
I havent seen it yet but Ive heard what happened.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 01, 2014, 10:42:26 pm
I guess Paul George outdid Kevin Ware?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on August 01, 2014, 11:23:34 pm
I had the game taped but skipped over the replays.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 01, 2014, 11:35:12 pm
I still havent seen it. All theyre showing is that fat dude talking.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 04, 2014, 02:37:11 am
Damn that Jim Kelly piece on Sportscenter just had me tore up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chiman on August 04, 2014, 07:41:59 pm
Jigs, I saw that also and it was heart warming. I always liked machine gun Kelly and I like him more than ever. It is a shame he didn't win a Super Bowl!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 10, 2014, 07:25:47 pm
This is the transition of Rory Mcilroy from the best player in the world to the dominant player in the world.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 10, 2014, 09:59:27 pm
Rory sure has been dominant the last few weeks...unreal how a guy that size (5'9, 165 or so) can hit the ball that far (AND hit it straight)!  He's an awesome athlete and a great kid! 

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 11, 2014, 12:43:26 am
He should have dumped Caroline a year ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 11, 2014, 01:07:38 am
Just on top of it, it really seems like Rory McIlroy is a genuinely good human being.  It's nice to see a good person dominate golf after all the years of Tiger being on top.
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Post by: OkieCubsFan on August 11, 2014, 07:05:35 am
I'd like to see a McIlroy - Fowler rivalry start up.  That would be fun to watch.

Fowler's just a tick behind him.  He's got to get better at closing the deal, but only Jack, Tiger and Rickie have ever placed Top 5 in all four majors in a year.  Of course, only Fowler didn't win any of his 5.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on August 11, 2014, 07:20:33 am
McIlroy v. Fowler looks to be the marquee match up that can energize the future of golf for the next decade.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 11, 2014, 07:24:41 am
Mcilroy is a hell of a lot more than a tick ahead of Fowler.  He's a tick ahead like Tiger was a tick ahead of Phil.  That doesn't mean Fowler can't emerge as a good rival for Rory - they seem to get along very well too, and both are refreshingly upbeat and plain-spoken for professional golfers.  Once Fowler breaks through he should go on to be a very good player in the Els-Mickelson range, but Rory has a chance to be one of the 3-5 best of all-time.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on August 11, 2014, 07:56:40 am
Deeg, I would agree that Rory is clearly ahead of Ricky at present in several areas, swing mechanics, course management, in game strategy to name a few things. Ricky is in the process of working with Butch Harmon on changes in his swing mechanics which seems to becoming better and more repeatable, next to develope and refine would be those aspects that I mentioned that Rory has well in hand. Two very talented young guys that can look forward to great one on one competition.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 11, 2014, 08:17:24 am
I don't disagree that Butch has done wonders for Rickie, but just ask Tiger Woods how good an idea it is to pin your success on your swing coach.

Rickie is a helluva talent, but what Rory can do is simply on another level - that should be obvious after this summer.  That doesn't mean he's going to win every major (obviously) or even win majors every year, or that Fowler can't develop into an elite player in the second-tier like Ernie or Phil.  But Rory is simply better at golf that Rickie is, never mind things like course management and grit (where he's currently better, too).  You can say Fowler can get better and catch up, but you could say that about any PGA pro - the fact is that some guys are simply better than other guys, and Rory just happens to be simply better than any player to come along since Tiger.

What I would expect is for Rory to dominate the game over the next 10-12 years - not like Tiger and Jack did, but winning 6-10 more majors over than time.  And I think you'll see a group of 2-3 young guys emerge as the second tier to be his most consistent challengers, and Rickie has as good a shot as anyone to be part of that group.  But he's never going to be at Mcilroy's level on a year-in, year-out basis.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on August 11, 2014, 10:20:38 am
Good points Deeg,but I would,respectfully, disagree about Rory being elite talent and Rickie being 2nd tier. At this juncture Rory is red hot and Rickie is not. Their collective career arcs are in the ascendency and that time will tell who stands apart from the rest. Look forward to further contests between those players and discussions with you on their games.


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: OkieCubsFan on August 11, 2014, 10:02:11 pm
McIlroy has been a pro for 2 years longer than Fowler, and they're basically the same age.  In 2013, they were nearly identical.

McIlroy had a 2nd place finish, 5 top 10's and 7 top 25s in 16 events.  He banked $1.8MM
Fowler had a 3rd place finish, 5 top 10's and 10 top 25s in 22 events.  He banked $1.8MM

Rory is on a hot streak right now, but don't ignore the fact that Fowler also is in extremely elite company with his major performances this year.  He hasn't quite figured out how to get over the hump and turn his Top 5's into victories, but Fowler is 4 shots away from being in the spot McIlroy's in now. 

Masters - T5
US Open - T2
British Open - T2
PGA - T3

McIlroy and Furyk were the only other golfers able to have more than one Top 5 finish in a major this year (both with 2).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 11, 2014, 10:04:27 pm
4 majors vs. 0 majors.  There's no getting around it.

Fowler is a lot like Garcia was back when he was in his early 20s, and the world was his oyster.  He was Tiger's destined foil, the rival to be.  But Sergio, despite his phenomenal talent, wasn't as phenomenally talented as Tiger.  And eventually all those missed chances start to become a burden rather than a useful learning experience.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 11, 2014, 10:19:22 pm
Agree with Deeg...Fowler is a hard worker and phenomenal talent (and has been known as such for many years in the world of golf).  Top 5 in all 4 majors...WOW!

However, Rory is as talented (and about as hard working) as ANYONE who EVER stepped on a golf course.  In a major, just stepping up and hammering one tee shot after another onto the fairway, 320-330 on the fly...WTF??

Both are super young guys, both have a MAJOR dose of the "IT" factor...and Rory hits it FORTY yards farther than Ricky (and most everyone else)...that's a pretty big advantage.

Just as with Tiger many moons ago, when Rory is "on," he's gonna continue to be VERY hard to beat...at least while he's playing at the current level.

Of course, golf is very fickle, so who knows.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 11, 2014, 10:43:26 pm
Twenty years ago I would easily wiped the course with both of them.

Of course, they would have been what then? 6?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 11, 2014, 10:54:40 pm
No, Curt, I suspect they would have taken you (or any of us) down then, too...both guys are prodigies.  Silly good, even as little kids.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 11, 2014, 11:06:33 pm
Okay, 25 years ago then.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 12, 2014, 01:18:42 pm
25 years ago, Curt, you would have taken either Rory or Rickie down!  NO doubt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on August 12, 2014, 01:24:30 pm
I'd shoot for 26 years, just to be safe.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on August 12, 2014, 01:43:28 pm
Are golfers doing steroids?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 12, 2014, 02:25:59 pm
I did not do steroids.  My 100 yard drives were all ME!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 12, 2014, 10:31:47 pm
They test guys on the PGA Tour all the time.  Dustin Johnson tested positive twice (last one for ****) and was suspended for 6 months (and will miss the Ryder Cup).

Steroid use would surface on their testing almost certainly. 

Seems like McIlroy must have something going on...and he does...no one in the history of the game has rotated his hips as fast as Rory through the ball, which - when coupled with shoulders almost square to the ball at impact and unreal timing - produces incredible torque and increases the whipping action of the clubhead through the ball, resulting in tremendous clubhead speed.  The kid is a freak!  It's not steroids with him (which is almost hard to imagine given his rather normal size).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 12, 2014, 10:46:55 pm
Why in the world is anyone talking about steroids with Rory McIlroy?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 12, 2014, 10:56:10 pm
They weren't accusing him.  They were accusing me.  Jealous of my skill and buff physique.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 12, 2014, 11:05:29 pm
You get that physique from Giordano's and Old Style, CurtOne.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 13, 2014, 02:24:08 am
Ben was accusing him. And it's nuts if you ask me. Rory was hitting 290 as a 140 pound 16 year-old amateur.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on August 13, 2014, 03:34:57 am
Quote
Ben was accusing him.

Ben who? Not the Ben from this board.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 13, 2014, 05:27:28 am
Ben who? Not the Ben from this board.

Yeah, sorry Ben, my bad - I was reading that on the train and in a hurry, and saw "Rory must have something going on" in response to the steroid posts and misinterpreted.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 13, 2014, 08:29:03 am
Deeg, are you still living in Japan?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 13, 2014, 08:40:09 am
Yep, sure am.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on August 13, 2014, 10:37:46 pm
Couple of quick questions, Deeg:

Are you living in or near Tokyo?  (fabulous city)

Have you gotten to any of the baseball parks in Japan this year?  (I've heard that's a real treat)

Can you view much Cub baseball?  (way more fun now than earlier this year!)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 11, 2014, 02:47:51 am
I just saw the Ray Rice video.

He really unloaded on that chick.

Makes a man wonder what she did to provoke that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on September 11, 2014, 08:01:45 am
I just saw the Ray Rice video.

He really unloaded on that chick.

Makes a man wonder what she did to provoke that.

Really?  That's what you wonder after seeing that?  I wondered "What's wrong with that dude?"
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on September 11, 2014, 09:10:36 am
"Yeah baby - you brought that on yourself you know"

Eddie Murphy?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 11, 2014, 09:24:47 am
Bad things happen when you're intoxicated.  Worse things happen when two people are intoxicated.

Spousal abuse cannot be tolerated.  First reports were that she was spitting on him and then rushed him.  The grainy video looked like he hit her as a reflex.  Now it comes out that he was spitting on HER and that she went at him because of it.  I'd like to know if this spitting and/or hitting was normal behavior or a one time thing.  If it is normal behavior, lifetime ban.  If a one time drunken thing, maybe a shorter ban with lots of spousal and alcoholic counseling.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on September 11, 2014, 10:18:20 am
Brandon Marshall talked about his history with domestic violence on NFL live last week - said it's no excuse - but if you are raised with incidents like this all around you all your life - it is a tough habit to break
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on September 11, 2014, 08:42:59 pm
He should never play another down in the NFL.

There is no acceptable excuse for striking a woman, short of her holding a gun on you.  Ever.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on September 11, 2014, 08:49:48 pm
Yeah, Strike, Marshall is about 10 years (at least) behind the times with that comment.

It's great that he's cleaned up his act, seemingly, in recent years, but someone needs to school him quickly.

There is no excuse. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 11, 2014, 09:50:46 pm
The only way Ive ever hit a woman is from the back...

LMAO
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on September 12, 2014, 04:56:49 am
Donkey-Punch?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on September 12, 2014, 11:22:52 am
Dirty Sanchez?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on September 15, 2014, 01:44:27 am
Derrick Rose hasn't done anything this summer that would lead you top believe he's anything close to his old self.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 15, 2014, 06:20:08 am
I agree Chris but I'm still not worried.  I think as long as he stays healthy it will come around and he does at least look healthy.  Hopefully the team steps up and wins without Rose in unicorn mode the early part of the year.  With Gasol on the block and McDermott adding his shooting and offense to the mix they should be better offensively, even without Derrick.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 15, 2014, 10:54:44 am
Dont forget Mirotic too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 17, 2014, 06:57:35 am
Bulls sign E'twaun Moore.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on September 17, 2014, 08:50:27 am
Smooge!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 21, 2014, 10:29:56 pm
Watching some football antics today with Cook pushing his quarterback in St. Louis, the fights in a number of games, and last night watching part of the Florida State vs Clemson game and the Nebraska vs Miami game, I came to the conclusion that there are still a lot of thugs out there, and when you consider Ray Lewis and Aaron Hernandez both came out of Miami, Miami must still be recruiting thugs.  There are hundreds of decent guys in the NFL and in college football, but we are kidding ourselves if we don't recognize that there are psychopaths thugs on every team, too.  There are a lot of drugs and violence beyond just these current domestic and child abuse cases.  Good luck, NFL, on dealing with all of it.

I would like to thank the Anheiser Busch company for their support of women by threatening to withdraw their sponsorship of a product that the players were getting drunk on before they beat their women.  Makes sense.

BTW: Lewis was bitching on ESPN about the Rice thing, alluding to the fact that the Ravens can't cover up everything.  Like what, Ray?  Murder?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on September 21, 2014, 11:31:54 pm
Hate to burst your bubble, Curt, but Hernandez went to Florida.

I hate "The U" as much as anybody but that particular thug is another school's pride and joy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on September 22, 2014, 05:04:09 am
Go watch some youth football games - totally different group of kids and parents as compared to youth baseball or soccer...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 22, 2014, 07:40:53 am
Hate to burst your bubble, Curt, but Hernandez went to Florida.

I hate "The U" as much as anybody but that particular thug is another school's pride and joy.
Ah, that's right.  He was Urban's blind spot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 22, 2014, 06:21:55 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvywOpCPWZM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on September 23, 2014, 01:12:52 pm
Jiggs, what the hell was that???
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 23, 2014, 03:33:46 pm
LMAO

Just some dude I know who wrestles that was on a local tv commercial.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 24, 2014, 04:44:27 pm
Truthfully thats me on the commercial.

I fully expect you all to give me hell over it but I thought you all would get a kick out of it.

I havent done it in over a year but I did wrestle 4 to 5 nights a week for a couple years.

Just chasing a dream I guess.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 24, 2014, 06:54:02 pm
Truthfully thats me on the commercial.

I fully expect you all to give me hell over it but I thought you all would get a kick out of it.

I havent done it in over a year but I did wrestle 4 to 5 nights a week for a couple years.

Just chasing a dream I guess.


If you and your tag team partner were known as "Vicious and Delicious", which one were you?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 24, 2014, 07:00:37 pm
Lmao

Delicious of course.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on September 25, 2014, 01:07:46 pm
wrestling?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 04:55:01 pm
I cant lie. Ive always loved it. Hulk Hogan got me in the mid 80's. The funny thing with it is I played basketball all the way through school and you'd always have kids as good or better than you but it wasnt anywhere near as difficult in wrestling. From day one all I saw was young guys with no ability what so ever or older guys who were just real big.  I did real well with it and moved up very quickly to bigger and better things that I truthfully never dreamed of when I started and it got to the point to where I was expected to get on steroids and travel the country full time and for someone my age with kids I just couldnt do that. Im very thankful that I was able to do that for as long as I did and get to meet and wrestle some of the guys I grew up watching and I did get a wife out of it that's far out of my league but it was just time to get my priorities in order I guess.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 25, 2014, 05:45:33 pm
So did you go to a school to learn how to take a bump?  Were you a face or a heel?  How often did you have to job?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 06:12:29 pm
Yeah Curt I had to get trained. I was trained by former WWE tag team champion Billy Gunn and former WWE wrestler Eugene. I was and I guess still am a heel. Its a lot easier to make 500 people hate you than it is to make them love you. As far as how often I had to lose they tell you if you know how many matches you've had you havent had enough but truthfully if I had 500 matches I probably lost half of them especially at first. Towards the end with the more experience I got we got to win a lot more often.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 06:17:02 pm
 Its fake you know so a lot of the times you may be a lot better than the guys you're working but if they're the promoters homeboys you'll still have to "job".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 06:33:50 pm
I would have told you all this a while ago but I just figured you'd make fun of me. Dave may have already knew because I was friends with him on facebook. It was all mostly during the period I wasnt posting here. I may still do it a lot more but now instead of wrestling everywhere that wants to book us I just wrestle at the places that pays what we ask.  Its kinda hard to find time though working full time and with a 9 month old son.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 25, 2014, 06:36:21 pm
Okay I was worried that it was some sort of fly by night organization that let anybody crawl between the ropes.  That's disaster waiting to happen.  Glad to hear you were a heel.  Puts you in with Jes, Davep, and JeffH.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 25, 2014, 07:04:00 pm
What is your "finishing" hold?  Describe it if necessary.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 07:05:56 pm
Reverse neckbreaker.

Think Rick Rude's "Rude Awakening".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 07:23:43 pm
Ill be honest with you guys. I gave it all I had to give it. My trainer Eugene (Nick Dinsmore) offered me the opportunity to try out for TNA the show thats on Spike TV where he's the head trainer but I was gonna have to move to Louisville Kentucky and I just couldnt reasonably do that.

If I had started at 18 instead of 29 who knows.

If any of you guys doubt this just tell me and Ill reopen my facebook.

There's 100s of pics on there of me in action.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on September 25, 2014, 08:41:17 pm
I also liked the Boston crab.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on September 25, 2014, 08:41:43 pm
Whatever happened to Seaman Art Thomas?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 25, 2014, 09:32:17 pm
He's dead.  Don Manoukian died a few days ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 25, 2014, 10:41:54 pm
That's pretty cool Jigs. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 11:24:29 pm
Thanks Jr.

Its definitely something I would have regretted if I had never gave it a try.

Im thankful that I got the opportunity.

I will say this though.

Its a rough life. You dont make much money doing it at any level unless youre in WWE and there are days you feel like youve been hit by a truck.

Thats what leads to the drug abuse and early deaths you hear about and the steroids on top of that dont help.

I promise you that once you get past the tryout stage and they see that youre pretty decent you will be expected to get jacked or youre kinda looked down upon.

Something I learned is you can count the wrestlers that got out before they were crippled and were financially stable on one hand.

Its just not a productive life.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 25, 2014, 11:46:41 pm
But dont get the wrong impression. Off the top of my head Ive only wrestled 3 times in the last year and none in the last 6 months or so and truth being told I may never do it again.

They do say "wrestlers dont quit, they die" though so you never know.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 30, 2014, 03:37:19 pm
After last night, maybe the Patriots need to see about getting Aaron Hernandez out of jail.  After all, there's no video of the murder and it's easy to get ol' Roger to come up with a new policy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 04, 2014, 02:50:16 pm
Thank God rooting for the Cubs has taught me to accept losing or todays UT/Florida game would have me on suicide watch.

But much like our Cubbies my Big Orange is headed in the right direction.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 04, 2014, 06:14:41 pm
I LOVE UPSETS
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 07, 2014, 12:58:22 am
Bulls played their first ex. game Monday and Rose apparently looked okay scoring 11 pts in 14 minutes.

Mirotic made his debut and had 17 pts and 5 boards in 22 minutes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 07, 2014, 01:04:48 am
The Bulls should be real strong this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on October 07, 2014, 01:12:29 pm
they will be strong for sure Jiggs, but I am not sold yet on them being VERY strong...i hope you're right
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 07, 2014, 07:17:35 pm
As long as the Bulls have bricklayer Hinrich playing too many minutes they aren't going anywhere.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 07, 2014, 07:53:57 pm
I like Captain Kirk and always have but Aaron Brooks should help him out a good bit too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 07, 2014, 08:45:28 pm
Mirotic' second game not going as well:  6 fouls, 5 TO's, 0 points in 14 minutes

Same for Rose: 0-4, 6 pts, 1 assist in 14 min
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on October 09, 2014, 02:11:41 pm
HOCKEY!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on October 09, 2014, 03:51:03 pm
HOCKEY!!!!
Absolutely ready to watch Chicago's best franchise and big time winners...Go 'Hawks!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 09, 2014, 06:03:48 pm
The Blackhawks are already irritating me. They bring in Brad Richards to fill the second center hole and now he's on the third line with players who don't best suit his ability.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on October 09, 2014, 06:38:24 pm
The Blackhawks are already irritating me. They bring in Brad Richards to fill the second center hole and now he's on the third line with players who don't best suit his ability.


lol...Coach Q doing his thing right out of the box...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 09, 2014, 09:04:22 pm
Hawks didn't look good in preseason and they don't look good tonight although they are currently tied.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 09, 2014, 09:06:28 pm
Nevermind. Now they're losing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 10, 2014, 02:36:07 am
9er fans aint the ones to be messed with.

Apparently this dudes mistake was claiming Steve Young was better than Joe Montana...

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/oct/09/san-francisco-49ers-fan-paralysed-attack-chiefs
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on October 10, 2014, 10:09:18 am
Kane with beautiful stick work flips puck over Lehtonen's left shoulder, top shelf to give the 3-2 victory to the 'Hawks in the SO...Crawford stood on his head to keep the 'Hawks in the game, he was freakin' awesome!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on October 10, 2014, 07:39:23 pm
Sometimes Crawford looks like a world beater and sometimes he looks like a Bantam goalie.    If he could stay consistently good, they have the Stanley wrapped up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 14, 2014, 11:47:41 am
This one's for Jigs.

http://deadspin.com/randy-orton-is-rkoing-the-entire-internet-1646153782
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 14, 2014, 12:25:20 pm
Gotta love that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 19, 2014, 02:37:06 am
The Williams "brothers"...

LMAO...

http://m.espn.go.com/general/tennis/story?storyId=11726918
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 19, 2014, 04:58:21 pm
Reports of shouting and fighting in the Bears' lockerroom.  Not good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on October 19, 2014, 08:20:44 pm
They should have shown that spunk on the field, not each other.

Be drafting high this coming Spring for sure.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 19, 2014, 09:13:04 pm
Be drafting high this coming Spring for sure.

They won't be drafting as high as the Titans.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on October 19, 2014, 09:21:56 pm
Maybe the Titans would trade that pick for Cutler?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 27, 2014, 12:23:45 am
Not that too many other people care here, but man, the Titans are a train wreck.  At least the Cubs look like they have a future.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 27, 2014, 12:44:30 am
Im not a Titans fan but I think Mettenberger will be good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 27, 2014, 08:41:53 am
I think he will as well...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 27, 2014, 09:59:23 am
I don't know.  I wasn't too enamored by what I saw yesterday, although I probably only watched about a half of it and a little bit of garbage time.  Still, that was his first start at QB, so I guess you have to cut him some slack there.  At least it looks like they'll be using the rest of the season to find out what they have in Mettenberger.

Hopefully they'll have a chance to draft Marcus Mariota next year, and if he's not there, I imagine they'll be one of those teams having to sweat out a tough decision on Jameis Winston.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on October 27, 2014, 01:06:24 pm
i had to turn the dang TV off  yesterday-it was too hard to watch
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 29, 2014, 10:31:20 pm
The Bulls looked fantastic tonight.  Offensive contributions from just about everyone (except Dunleavy who defended Anthony pretty well).  Solid team defense as usual.  Something tells me Cleveland won't be as easy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on October 29, 2014, 10:37:02 pm
Doug McDermott is a player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 29, 2014, 10:46:31 pm
You could find 10 people on the street and beat the Knicks. Their team picture could be next to "abysmal" in the dictionary. Let's wait and see how the Bulls look against a pro team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 31, 2014, 06:53:43 pm
Where's Deeg? The cheap-ass Bulls may have just lost Jimmy Butler.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jimmy-butler-rejects-bulls--final-offer--plans-to-enter-restricted-free-agency-205721009.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 31, 2014, 07:01:40 pm
We can match all offers and he's over rated anyway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 31, 2014, 07:43:07 pm
The Bulls aren't matching any offer anymore than they did for Asik, and Butler is actually underrated. Or maybe you are missing James scoring at will tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on October 31, 2014, 09:39:59 pm
Rose is hurt. Again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 31, 2014, 09:51:52 pm
And they blew a 5-pt lead with 45 seconds left to lose.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on October 31, 2014, 09:54:08 pm
How bad is Mr. Glass hurt this time?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 31, 2014, 11:02:44 pm
Probably not badly, but there's always the next injury waiting for him when he returns.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 02, 2014, 01:04:55 am
The Bulls survived a 17-pt collapse and near final death blow 3-pter to win Saturday w/out Rose and Gibson. This was mostly due to the overrated Jimmy Butler who returned at less than 100% and with a wrap on his sprained thumb.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 02, 2014, 09:11:38 am
Butler played a fine game.  He forced things a bit too much down the stretch, but that's a minor quibble.  Someone needed to take charge, and he did a nice job at both ends of the court. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on November 02, 2014, 11:15:28 am
Really great, long article about Mirotic, and about the Bulls' scouting of European players.

http://grantland.com/features/nikola-mirotic-chicago-bulls-toni-kukoc-pau-gasol/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 02, 2014, 12:19:43 pm
Thanks, shasson.  That was a fun read.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 04, 2014, 04:21:58 pm
My 33rd birthday is coming up and the old lady decided to treat me right this year and decided to take me to Atlanta to see the Cubs this year and bought me a new set of golf clubs.

The point im trying to make is check out globalgolf.com.

I just bought a King Cobra driver, a King Cobra hybrid, a set of Cobra CXI irons, and a Ping putter for 125 bucks.

Hell a set of wal mart wilsons are 100 bucks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 04, 2014, 04:52:45 pm
My 33rd birthday is coming up and the old lady decided to treat me right this year and decided to take me to Atlanta to see the Cubs this year and bought me a new set of golf clubs.

The point im trying to make is check out globalgolf.com.

I just bought a King Cobra driver, a King Cobra hybrid, a set of Cobra CXI irons, and a Ping putter for 125 bucks.

Hell a set of wal mart wilsons are 100 bucks.

Dusty,

If you are going to be at all serious about golf, your clubs should be fitted to you.  For example, do you need stiff, regular, or flexible shafts?  It's not unlike having your own bowling ball vs using a house ball.  Money spent on lessons is always a good idea too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 04, 2014, 04:59:21 pm
That's awesome Dusty!

Congrats on the golf clubs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 04, 2014, 05:03:10 pm
I can get irons at WalMart for a hundred bucks?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 04, 2014, 05:23:20 pm
Im not great by any means Curt.

Ive played since I was a teenager and the best Ive ever shot on 9 was a 38 and a 80 on 18.

Im the true picture of a weekend beer drinking hacker.

I aint on the level of needing custom fit clubs.

I just want a better set than my buddies.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 04, 2014, 05:24:48 pm
And you can get a complete set not just irons for 100 bucks at Wal Mart.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 04, 2014, 05:25:08 pm
I wouldn't discuss flexible shafts with Dusty.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 04, 2014, 06:05:39 pm
Or the length thereof
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on November 04, 2014, 07:18:36 pm
Congratulations on your new clubs, Dusty.

Wherever they are from, I'll bet Rory McElroy could hit them pretty well...and they should do the job for you (which is to have some fun with your buds).

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on November 05, 2014, 11:06:19 am
your OLD lady? really?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 05, 2014, 11:15:51 am
your OLD lady? really?
She's the one wearing the t-shirt that says "I'm with Stupid."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 07, 2014, 04:40:26 pm
So after I brag up globalgolf.com to you all I get my clubs today and these MFers send me a left handed putter.

After I call and raise hell they decided to give me the putter of my choice for free and told me to keep the left handed one.

So if any of you need a sharp Ping o blade left handed putter I now have one that will never be used.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 07, 2014, 04:57:50 pm
MFers?  ManuFacturers?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 07, 2014, 05:09:21 pm
Yeah.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 07, 2014, 05:25:42 pm
ah okay
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 13, 2014, 10:14:50 pm
Rose hurt himself again tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 13, 2014, 10:23:54 pm
The glass man.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on November 14, 2014, 01:09:24 pm
hang nail
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on November 14, 2014, 04:08:00 pm
hammy
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 14, 2014, 08:45:52 pm
Be nice if the Bulls could get their sh!t together because Cleveland looks beyond shaky. They gave up 42 points in one quarter to Boston tonight and 116 overall with 4 minutes left.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 15, 2014, 08:58:06 pm
The Bulls aren't an elite defensive team anymore which means Rose's health doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 16, 2014, 08:35:57 am
I really hate it when a superior team lacks motivation to the point where they get beaten badly at home.  Given the salaries and the cost of going to the game, the home team should play hard every game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 16, 2014, 03:48:00 pm
The Bulls have added five new players to their 9 man rotation.  Think about that for a minute.  Rose, Mirotic, Brooks, Gasol and McDermott were not on the team last year, except for Rose's 10 game stint.  They are 7-3 despite integrating all these new faces to a system that takes at least a few months to learn.  Good grief what do people expect?  The bench mob in 2010 stunk it up for the better part of 2 months before they gelled and became a force.  Last year the Bulls looked so bad after Rose went down most people were calling for them to tank.  I think I'll wait at least a month until I declare that they are not an elite defensive team any more or before I make any blanket statements about their potential.  So far they are scoring at a remarkable pace and have shown flashes of what their defense can be when they put in the effort.  I would love for Rose to be fully healthy but if you thought he would come back from this long a layoff and not have small injuries along the way, you are nuts.  I fully expect this team to have the best regular season record in the conference if not the league and to make the conference finals.  Not sure if they can ever beat Lebron but if they can, it will be this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 16, 2014, 04:07:00 pm
Robb, did you watch the game last night?  You can't attribute that performance to getting adjusted alone.  Look at the adjustments the Pacers have had to make!  And it's not just the Bulls, I went to a number of Warrior games last season, and in several of them they just stunk against poor opponents.  You aren't going to win them all, but let downs against inferior teams at home are disappointing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 16, 2014, 04:34:57 pm
Yeah that 7 and 2 start sure sucks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 16, 2014, 05:17:53 pm
The Bulls have played basically three teams with a pulse and are 1-2 in those games. They've played the second easiest schedule in the league according to Sagarin. They're around 9th or 10th in most offensive and defensive categories which looks worse with the lack of quality opposition.

Time to gel or not, their team "D' has never looked this mediocre under Thibodeau.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 16, 2014, 05:18:39 pm
Quote
Yeah that 7 and 2 start sure sucks.

You can pretty much thank Jimmy Butler for that. You know, the guy you think is overrated.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 16, 2014, 05:53:43 pm
With the improvement in his jump shot, Butler is now an impressive all around stud.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 16, 2014, 06:02:17 pm
With a great attitude:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-jimmy-butler-offense-spt-1117-20141116-story.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 25, 2014, 09:51:45 pm
Rose left tonight's game with another hamstring injury. In other words, it's a day ending in "y".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 25, 2014, 10:58:28 pm
Im so over him.

Its time to cut our ties.

All the talent in the world but no heart.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 26, 2014, 01:54:20 am
I don't buy the no heart thing. He's just fragile as tissue paper.

Also, it's the Bulls so Noah and Gibson were also out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2014, 03:20:27 am
Its not like Im the first person to ever be wrong here and I dont know if he can keep it up but Jimmy Butler is making me eat my words.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on November 27, 2014, 08:50:51 am


(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/CBCF/J-J-B-R_zps57a9659a.jpg)


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 27, 2014, 09:07:44 am
They should explore trading rose at this point and get some value back for him...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on November 27, 2014, 09:52:51 am
'Hawks beat Avalanche 3-2 last night...Rose-Cutler bah-humbug
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2014, 11:09:19 am
Love the D Rose thing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 28, 2014, 03:10:00 pm
College football game between Marshall and Western Kentucky just ended up 67-66 in OT. There were a combined 78 1st downs and 1,446 yards of offense. The QB's threw for 15 TD's and over 400 yards apiece. Each team had a RB over 200 yards.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 30, 2014, 08:26:33 pm
I'm sure CurtOne had a happy day today with Bo Pelini being shown the door.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 30, 2014, 09:00:26 pm
Im waiting for Boff to get on here and say everyone from Bill Billichick to Nick Saban wants the job.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 02, 2014, 10:05:51 pm
Wonder what the Bulls could get for a Rose/Hinrich package...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on December 03, 2014, 11:29:29 am
Can't imagine a more entertaining Tuesday-night, early-season NBA game. That was fun, despite the outcome.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 03, 2014, 12:14:47 pm
It tired of all this injury news.  http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-corey-crawford-injury-20141203-story.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 07, 2014, 09:59:10 pm
The Blackhawks are on a hot streak though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 07, 2014, 10:19:54 pm
Thank goodness.  I watched the Bulls-Warriors game with my wife (a Warrior fan) last night and it was brutal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 07, 2014, 10:43:33 pm
Holy crap.  I was just looking at the list of bowl games and the participants.  At least half those teams don't deserve to go bowling and a third of the bowls shouldn't exist.  Pathetic.  Extraordinary year that would have justified an 8 team playoff rather than just 4, but some years you won't even have 4 deserving teams so...oh well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 07, 2014, 11:02:00 pm
. . .  and a third of the bowls shouldn't exist.  Pathetic. 

A lot of that can be blamed on ESPN.  They own and created 11 of these bowl games on their own.

http://espnevents.com/blog/press/espn-events-announces-2014-bowl-lineup/ (http://espnevents.com/blog/press/espn-events-announces-2014-bowl-lineup/)

I also think it's amusing to see some of the third rate companies that are sponsoring a lot of these bowl games.  Royal Purple Bowl?  Quick Lane Bowl?  Duck Commander?  Foster Farms Bowl?  TaxSlayer Bowl? 

Bitcoin sponsors a bowl, and there's so much sleaziness that goes on with that company.  That's even one of the ESPN owned bowl games, and they have Bitcoin sponsoring it?  That's about as desperate as it gets.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 07, 2014, 11:04:14 pm
Of course, I think college football is a pretty sleazy business to begin with, so it shouldn't be surprising that they have to make cash grabs from some of these oddball outfits sponsoring their bowl games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 08, 2014, 12:05:21 am
Im appreciative of the TaxSlayer Bowl this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 08, 2014, 12:30:13 pm
Hasn't Bickell tended to raise the level of his game during the postseason?  That's definitely worth something!  Plus, he's one of the few B'Hawks that can lay some lumber on the opposition.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on December 08, 2014, 12:38:56 pm
for this recent run of dominance for the Hawks, where they've grabbed first place in their division, Richards *has* been the second line center with Kane and Versteeg and they've been the 'Hawks' best line.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 08, 2014, 03:46:13 pm
Patrick Sharp returns tomorrow and skated on the third line with Shaw and Bickell today. Seems as though the top two lines stay intact for now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 08, 2014, 04:33:21 pm
Hey, JR, take the quiz

http://www.hlntv.com/interactive/2013/12/10/bowl-games-real-fake-quiz-college-football?hpt=hp_t4
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 08, 2014, 06:50:22 pm
I  see nothing wrong with all the bowl games.

More football the better for me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on December 14, 2014, 05:43:31 am
http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/13/after-further-review-get-out-of-my-courtroom/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on December 14, 2014, 06:52:04 pm
Mike Dunleavy just scored 19 points in a quarter. Of an NBA game. For real.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 19, 2014, 08:55:07 pm
If nothing else, at least the Chicago Bulls have discovered that Mirotic is the real deal this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 19, 2014, 09:29:41 pm
Very impressive win by the Bulls tonight against Memphis without Rose and Gibson.

Nikola Mirotic can play if given the chance. So can Aaron Brooks.

I'll take 17-9 anytime especially since they have been a full squad about 3 times this season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on December 19, 2014, 10:25:51 pm
Grizz were worn out from past few games...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 19, 2014, 11:05:14 pm
Jimmy Butler has out of the blue became a stud.

I was wrong.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on December 22, 2014, 09:38:16 am
Jimmy Butler has out of the blue became a stud.

I was wrong.

They definitely need to find a way to keep this kid.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 22, 2014, 11:16:59 am
They will keep him.  He's the quintessntial Bulls-type player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on December 22, 2014, 01:25:32 pm
They will keep him.  He's the quintessntial Bulls-type player.
He has earned the contract he has been shooting for...He will not be leaving CHI
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2014, 07:21:29 pm
Bulls low-balled Deng, then messed around with Butler. Wouldn't pay Asik either. Wouldn't be so sure they'll pony up for what is looking like a massive contract.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 22, 2014, 07:22:31 pm
Losing Butler would be much worse than losing Deng or Asik.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 22, 2014, 07:33:37 pm
Asik is a scrub and the truth came out about Deng.

Those 2 werent losses.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2014, 08:00:30 pm
Not sure what the truth is about Deng. Asik is averaging nearly 11 rebounds a game in just 26 minutes and is a terrific interior defender.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2014, 08:01:13 pm
Asik would be nice to have on night's like tonight when Noah and Gasol are abysmal and the Bulls are getting clobbered by a better Toronto team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2014, 08:11:19 pm
Toronto has 66 points at half in Chicago without their leading scorer DeRozan. As I said previously, the Bulls do not play title contending defense.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2014, 09:08:54 pm
Bulls have battled back from 12 down to take the lead in the 4th.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2014, 09:24:31 pm
Bulls going with Mirotic down the stretch rather than Gibson. Maybe for matchup purposes but still pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2014, 09:30:58 pm
Great 4th for Rose. Bulls 38-41 from the foul line which has to be a team record.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 22, 2014, 09:39:12 pm
Rose with 29, Butler with 27. The team shot 43-47 from the free throw line. They also had a team total of  13 blocks.

Two wins against Toronto now. But the defense is still pretty bad or not what we are used to be seeing over the past several years. That 4th quarter on defense was very sloppy, especially the final 2-3 minutes.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 22, 2014, 10:20:36 pm
It's nice to have an offense that can make up for defensive lapses.  It's hard to play consistent lock down defense game in and game out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on December 23, 2014, 01:10:05 pm
Bulls low-balled Deng, then messed around with Butler. Wouldn't pay Asik either. Wouldn't be so sure they'll pony up for what is looking like a massive contract.
and in hindsight i think we all know that neither of the two were/are worth the money they asked for from CHI....Butler is a better overall player than either of the other two
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 23, 2014, 01:24:42 pm
Agreed. Fully.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 23, 2014, 02:50:45 pm
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and in hindsight i think we all know that neither of the two were/are worth the money they asked for from CHI....Butler is a better overall player than either of the other two

Not sure what your point is. The Bulls didn't make any of those moves because they think Butler is the best player of the three. They're simply cheap and have been. Just because one guy is better than the other doesn't mean the other can't be of service.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 23, 2014, 03:01:17 pm
That dont mean they're worth what they asked either.

This really isnt hard to understand.

As far as Deng goes word is he's a clubhouse lawyer and very shady

I guess you call those types cancers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 23, 2014, 07:55:07 pm
Worth is relative. You have to pay to keep good players.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 23, 2014, 08:10:25 pm
I really don't see that they missed out on all that much by not paying to keep Deng or Asik.  Both are good players, but their roles are filled with better players on the current roster.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 23, 2014, 08:19:26 pm
Bulls go into Washington and get another road win. 99-91.

Rose with 25, Gasol with 18. The bench had 36 points.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 23, 2014, 08:27:42 pm
They won that game despite an off night from Butler and few standout performances.

Rose made a slew of shots down the stretch again. He's starting to produce better basketball in reduced minutes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 23, 2014, 08:37:45 pm
It's nice to have a team with versatility.  If the Bulls have off nights from only a player or two, they have plenty of weapons to compete against anyone.  If no one has an off night, not many teams can beat them.

BTW, my wife and I also root for the Warriors.  How much fun has that been so far this season?  I'm hoping for a Bulls-Warriors NBA finals.  You can always hope!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 23, 2014, 09:23:55 pm
76ers beat the Heat tonight.

Deng had 7 points.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 23, 2014, 09:24:39 pm
P2, have you went to a Warriors game this season?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 23, 2014, 09:35:43 pm
Just one game so far, JB.  The Warriors and the Pelicans.  We have 4 games in January including the Thunder, Nuggets, and Bulls.  Should be fun.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 25, 2014, 09:27:24 pm
Chicago blows the Lakers away the final 7 minutes of the game 113-91.

Gasol 23, Rose 20, Butler 21,  Mirotic and Brooks with 13.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 25, 2014, 09:44:27 pm
Mirotic is coming around.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 25, 2014, 10:59:36 pm
Mirotic has been really good for more than a month now. Not much he can't do offensively.

Butler should be top five in MVP voting as of this moment.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 26, 2014, 12:06:52 am
He is bad to the bone now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 27, 2014, 04:33:16 am
A breakdown of Jimmy Butler's game this year:

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2014/12/22/secret-behind-jimmy-butlers-evolution-with-film-breakdown/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 27, 2014, 09:18:57 pm
Somehow the Bulls won that game. 107-100

Butler with 33, Rose 19 with 1 assist.  Bulls bench had 37.

That Anthony Davis kid is good. 29 points and 6 blocks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 27, 2014, 09:43:13 pm
He looks like he's gained 75 lbs of muscle.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 28, 2014, 05:39:38 pm
Detroit just went into Cleveland and trashed them one end of the court to the other.

Cleveland just doesn't have a very good bench outside of Waiters.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 28, 2014, 06:54:28 pm
Cleveland's also a poor defensive team though the Bulls aren't close to what they used to be either. Losing Varejao for the year was a big blow.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 28, 2014, 06:59:37 pm
Irving is out as well. Something about his knee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 29, 2014, 04:18:57 pm
Yesterday, I heard Trestman say he didn't expect to be fired.  Finally I understood how oblivious the guy really was.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 29, 2014, 04:24:25 pm
At least the Bears are cleaning house and making changes.

The Titans still seem content to stick with the same front office clowns that have sent them spiraling straight down the toilet.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 29, 2014, 04:25:41 pm
Watching the Titans down the stretch the last couple of seasons has been as downright boring as watching the Cubs, except for the fact that the Cubs have a good long term plan in place where you could at least hope for a brighter future while the Titans are run by clueless idiots.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 29, 2014, 04:27:58 pm
Watching the Titans down the stretch the last couple of seasons has been as downright boring as watching the Cubs, except for the fact that the Cubs have a good long term plan in place where you could at least hope for a brighter future while the Titans are run by clueless idiots.
whiner
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 29, 2014, 08:08:17 pm
Bulls have blown a 21 point lead and trail by 3.

No excuse for that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 29, 2014, 08:25:24 pm
Bulls win 92-90.

C.J. Watson missed a wide open three with 0.05 left.

Mercy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 29, 2014, 08:38:59 pm
They can't even give one away!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 30, 2014, 03:11:31 am
Butler hit the three to win it. Rose continues to take bad shots and play in confusing fashion.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 30, 2014, 02:50:17 pm
LeBron not happy?

Reports: LeBron James could leave Cleveland and he may not like his coach

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/reports--lebron-james-could-leave-cleveland-and-he-may-not-like-his-coach-184027461.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 30, 2014, 03:27:36 pm
He wont leave Cleveland... he might get that coach fired... but really doubt he leaves.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 30, 2014, 03:35:29 pm
Interesting that his competition from Chicago is listed as Jimmy Butler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 30, 2014, 04:50:52 pm
Butler has been firing on all cylinders so far.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 30, 2014, 06:02:29 pm
Agreed that Lebron aint leaving Cleveland.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 30, 2014, 07:51:06 pm
Rose plays like he has some kind of permanent head injury.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 30, 2014, 07:56:25 pm
It was only three straight turnovers...

New Jersey is taking it to them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 30, 2014, 08:28:52 pm
Rose plays like he has some kind of permanent head injury.

This is true... getting hurt is in his head now....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 30, 2014, 08:47:12 pm
He doesn't play smart basketball at all, and his lackadaisical style is irritating. He can't guard anyone, and no matter how many stand-still jumpers he misses, he keeps chucking them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on December 30, 2014, 09:27:04 pm
They should trade him now...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 31, 2014, 01:57:32 am
2-15 and 4 points.

He wasn't the only problem though. Brooks gets ejected, Butler and Gasol were just as bad.

When Tony Snell and Dunleavy has the best game you know  it was a bad night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 01, 2015, 02:42:55 pm
SEC has had a rough 3 days in their bowl games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 01, 2015, 03:31:13 pm
Thatll stop tomorrow at about 6 pm.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 01, 2015, 03:32:27 pm
But truth is Im glad the SEC is losing.

Those teams are our rivals.

I dont ever want to see them win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 01, 2015, 04:05:51 pm
Weird coincidence, SEC limited over signing 3 years ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 01, 2015, 07:58:30 pm
Rose stinking the joint up again. All he does is dribble the varnish off the floor and then take a standstill jumper.

7-42 with 8 TO's the last 2-1/2 games.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 01, 2015, 09:27:10 pm
He was horrible in the first half, but  7-18 in the 2nd half with 15 points and 8 assists.

Team had 18 blocks. Bulls bench was the bog difference tonight outscoring them 34-18.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 01, 2015, 10:18:54 pm
Boy wont it be a great night if FSU and Alabama both lose?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 01, 2015, 10:47:46 pm
Boy wont it be a great night if FSU and Alabama both lose?

I think Jim Ross enjoyed the Oregon-FSU game, Jigs.

http://deadspin.com/oregons-blowout-rose-bowl-win-over-fsu-as-called-by-j-1677035995
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 01, 2015, 11:24:09 pm
Another SEC team going down.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 01, 2015, 11:28:16 pm
Just think, without the playoff system, Alabama would probably have beaten Florida State today for the National Championship.  With the system, both are going home.  Alabama game, of course, is not over, but...

The two best teams I've seen are Oregon and TCU although Ohio State is playing well.

I wonder if this will shut Colin Cowherd up for at least a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 01, 2015, 11:42:30 pm
Oregon and TCU would have been a great  game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 02, 2015, 12:00:30 am
I think Jim Ross enjoyed the Oregon-FSU game, Jigs.

http://deadspin.com/oregons-blowout-rose-bowl-win-over-fsu-as-called-by-j-1677035995

Great JR.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 03, 2015, 08:28:31 pm
Is Rose trying to play his way out of Chicago? Playing like a guy at the "Y" right now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 03, 2015, 10:11:05 pm
With Rose playing like a YMCA has been, the Bulls are still 24-10 and have the 3rd best record in the conference.

Gasol and Brooks have been great additions.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 04, 2015, 09:42:38 am
Rose has had to deal with the physical and mental aspects of returning from a series of serious injuries.  He is still finding his way.  Not to mention running a team that is quite different from what he had been used to, and trying to determine how to utilize his abilities.  The Bulls will not be a serious contender to win it all unless he stays healthy and becomes consistently an excellent player (he needn't be playing at superstar level).  I'm hopeful that will happen by playoff time, but of course the jury is still out. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 04, 2015, 10:07:53 am
Stuart Scott died this morning.

He was 49.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 04, 2015, 03:04:41 pm
The Bulls have quietly opened up a 5-game lead in the division.


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on January 04, 2015, 07:44:18 pm
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Stuart Scott died this morning.

He was 49.

I wonder who is going to give him the Boo-yah during the eulogy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 05, 2015, 07:30:11 pm
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Rose has had to deal with the physical and mental aspects of returning from a series of serious injuries.  He is still finding his way.  Not to mention running a team that is quite different from what he had been used to, and trying to determine how to utilize his abilities.

He's playing like he has no interest in basketball. Zero energy, zero passion. He's standing around doing nothing in the 1st quarter tonight as his man is scoring and grabbing offensive rebounds at will. He simply looks uninterested.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 05, 2015, 07:43:11 pm
He's playing like he has no interest in basketball. Zero energy, zero passion. He's standing around doing nothing in the 1st quarter tonight as his man is scoring and grabbing offensive rebounds at will. He simply looks uninterested.

+1. Really did not think rose would be the weak link on this team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 05, 2015, 09:19:36 pm
Bulls rally all night for a great win against Houston. Butler and Mirotic really lead the charge late.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 05, 2015, 09:22:55 pm
Cleveland lost to the 76ers.  Bulls lead the division now by 6. 2015 champs  Cav's in panic mode as they trade for  J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert and dump Waiters.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on January 06, 2015, 01:08:20 pm
+1. Really did not think rose would be the weak link on this team.
i don't view Rose as the weak link to this team at all.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 06, 2015, 01:52:51 pm
An article on Rose probably not written by Chris:

http://www.csnchicago.com/bulls/aggressive-derrick-rose-finally-finds-attack-mode-bulls-win?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 07, 2015, 09:24:09 am
Detroit drops Josh Smith and goes undefeated in their last 6 including beating the Spurs on the road last night.  Houston picks him up immediately goes into a tailspin.  The guy has all the talent in the world but is one of the dumbest players in league history.  So glad the Bulls don't bring in guys like him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2015, 04:46:31 pm
Eh. While I'm no fan of Josh Smith, the Rockets have lost three games by micro margins against quality teams (Chi, SA, Wash) since he came over, two of those on the road. A play here or there and they're 6-1 with him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2015, 04:47:53 pm
Should be noted that the Cavs got Timofey Mozgov from the Nuggets today. If Shumpert gets healthy, then Cleveland has improved their team dramatically on paper the last three days.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 07, 2015, 08:03:34 pm
Rose's first half against Utah tonight: 0-9, 1 point, 0 assists
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 11, 2015, 08:54:23 am
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NBA analysts suggest that LeBron James’ basketball odometer is nearing an end. He has played 34,364 minutes. Is that valid? Jason Terry, now a role player at Houston, has played 37,745 minutes through Friday. Mike Bibby played 33,962 minutes before his body shut down at the elite level.

What's next?  Anybody want to venture a guess?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 11, 2015, 08:56:49 am
bWar?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 11, 2015, 05:03:23 pm
If I were a Detroit fan I'd say, "Dallas,  karma is a ****."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 11, 2015, 05:06:17 pm
Dallas used to automatically get calls like the not completed pass play at the end of the game.  Was it because they were playing the other NFL TV favorite team, the Green Bay Packers?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 11, 2015, 05:21:15 pm
I think it was the right call but I've long thought that rule sucks
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on January 12, 2015, 08:26:21 am
I thought it was similar to a trap catch - where the ground cannot assist in the catch
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 12, 2015, 08:53:41 am
According to the rules it wasn't a catch.  But that rule more than any other is a stupid one.  The receiver clearly caught the ball.  All the crap afterward is semantics.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 12, 2015, 09:09:21 am
If an outfielder snares a ball in a similar manner and then loses control when his glove hits the ground it is not a catch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on January 13, 2015, 12:40:04 am
I'm just gonna leave this here.

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q86/strikezone3n2/Brutus_Trophy_2015.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 13, 2015, 12:58:17 am
Can't blame ya.  Ohio State definitely deserved it. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 13, 2015, 01:01:12 am
I'm sure it'll never happen, but if I was one of these teams with an NFL job opening (or a team like the Titans that hasn't accomplished anything in years and don't look like they will any time soon), I'd throw a ton of money at Urban Meyer and see if he'd be willing to leave college.  He's one of the very best coaches at any level there is.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 13, 2015, 05:07:35 am
The Bulls defense is a disgrace. They suck at home and Noah is a non factor these days.

Its safe to say they won't win the title this season, or make it past the 2nd round. The only bright spot is Gasol.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 13, 2015, 05:38:17 am
And lots of voters wanted TCU in instead.  Still needs an 8 team tweak.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 13, 2015, 07:19:34 am
JB, it's hard to imagine Thibs allowing them the team to ignore defense for long.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 13, 2015, 10:00:31 am
I wonder if there isn't a mini rebellion going on with the Bulls this season.  They know that defense is necessary, but they also experienced last year's meltdown against Washington when they didn't have anything left in the tank come playoff time.  So if Thibs can't manage their minutes and their practices to allow them to recover, they will manage their effort. 

Operating on that premise, I can't help wonder of Pau isn't behind the scenes telling him that that is what championship teams do.  The Bulls in seasons past have never had a second playoff gear.  This team appears to be coasting unless it is a marquee matchup where they give full effort.  They go into LA and beat the Clippers without Derek.  They look like world beaters against the Rockets, yet lose a few days later to Utah at home.  The 90's Bulls used to coast at times in the regular season as well.  This team has the talent to do so, but they aren't used to it.  Plucking a win from the jaws of defeat requires an all world closer.  The 90's Bulls had that.  This team could have that if Derek ever starts putting it together.  In the mean time I hope they realize they're not good enough to coast and up their intensity a few notches.  Maybe not all the way, but a little bit more so they don't have to work so hard to beat the beatables. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 14, 2015, 08:53:20 pm
I said early in the year that the Bulls didn't play championship defense. Nothing's changed. Worst defensive team since Thibodeau's been here by far. They get no defensive push on the perimeter as Rose sleepwalks on that end.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 14, 2015, 09:18:21 pm
They suck. Just another typical piece of **** team from Chicago.

The defense is garbage. Whatever was working a few weeks ago is gone and done. They won't make it out of the first round of the playoffs again.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 14, 2015, 09:27:35 pm
The clock has stuck midnight for Jimmy Butler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 14, 2015, 10:05:46 pm
I dont think they're that bad.

As a matter of fact I'd bet money they're at least an ECF team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on January 15, 2015, 01:09:57 pm
They are not that bad. They are not playing real good right now, but they have some time to get their shizzz together before the playoffs
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 16, 2015, 07:26:50 pm
Celtics shooting 60% against the Bulls nearing halftime. This is with no Rondo and no Jeff Green.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 16, 2015, 08:45:23 pm
Rose and Butler have big second halves and the Bulls pull away from Boston. Still gave up 103 points to a team in the middle of a tank job.
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Post by: guest61 on January 16, 2015, 09:13:10 pm
If your wife's giving you a bj Chris do you **** if she dont fix her hair first?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 16, 2015, 09:50:11 pm
Stay classy, Dusty. It's always been your calling card.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 16, 2015, 10:34:39 pm
Bulls looked much better tonight. Defense sucked until the 4th quarter. Rose is looking much better (29 points and 10 assists), but now Noah is out for awhile. Nikola Mirotic is playing good defense but now his offense is struggling.

They have red hot Atlanta tomorrow night.
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Post by: wmljohn on January 16, 2015, 10:35:05 pm
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If your wife's giving you a bj Chris do you **** if she dont fix her hair first?

You don't?  Who wants to look down at a crows nest?  We own a hair salon.  Her hair better be looking good.   ;D
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Post by: guest61 on January 16, 2015, 11:20:29 pm
Crows nest...

LMAO
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 17, 2015, 09:09:45 pm
Bulls lost and confused once again. The defense is so bad.

I doubt they could beat the 76ers at this point.
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Post by: shasson on January 17, 2015, 10:04:31 pm
The 32-8 Hawks, winners of 27 of their last 29, and 12 in a row, beat the Noah-less, Dunleavy-free Bulls. Oh, the horror, the horror.....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 17, 2015, 10:48:11 pm
Come on shasson, you're not concerned by now? The Bulls have looked below average for weeks. The defense has been poor almost all year. Rose is a shell of his former self. Noah has been injured and subpar all season. I mean, are you really putting all of the Bulls' eggs in the Mike Dunleavy basket? That's desperation. The Hawks are no powerhouse in spite of the record. Hell, the Bulls were beaten by former 8th man on their own squad Kyle Korver.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on January 17, 2015, 11:29:42 pm
I'm concerned, absolutely, about the defense. It's weird how mediocore they've been. And Dunleavy in the lineup gives them a different dimension, that they miss. No idea what to expect from Rose -- he's been really good 3 games in a row, but it would be stupid to expect that to be a consistent thing. If Noah's injuries hobble him all year, that's a huge problem. Overall, though, more positives than not. They are, relative to the East, really good.

But I disagree about the Hawks They are legit and really good and losing to them, as an isolated incident, is not at all cause for concern.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 18, 2015, 04:41:34 am
The Bulls next three games could be bad as well.

at Cleveland
vs. San Antonio
at Dallas

I'd be shocked if they won one of those, even though Cleveland's defense is worse than Chicago's.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 18, 2015, 08:23:41 am
I have been disappointed by the Bulls' recent play.  Fortunately, there is no juggernaut in the East and if the Bulls are playing well come playoff time, it won't matter much what seed they have.  There are a lot of games left to play and there is time for the Bulls to work things out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 18, 2015, 01:24:33 pm
They don't match up with Washington or Atlanta. It's not even close.

When you only play 8 players a night they will be wore down by the time the playoffs start once again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 19, 2015, 07:31:01 pm
Bulls look like crap again. Down 16 in the first half.

Cleveland having no issues with this garbage defense in the first half anyway.

Rose, Butler, and Hinrich are combined 1-18 with 9 points. Thankful they can hit some free throws. No emotion on the court what so ever.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 19, 2015, 07:36:00 pm
Cleveland isn't playing very well either or this would be a complete curb-stomping.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 19, 2015, 09:20:37 pm
Thibs might not last the season.  He seems to have no clue what to do to get the most of this group, particularly at the defensive end.  And the players do not appear to be having any fun out there. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 19, 2015, 09:34:46 pm
How can Thibs be the problem? He made them the best defensive team in the league for years. Now he's clueless?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on January 22, 2015, 09:35:37 pm
Nice and pretty surprising blowout over the Spurs tonight. I'm thinking the Bulls will be erratic for a while, but if Noah comes back, they still can be in the hunt as best in the East.

Hasn't Rose strung together about 4 good games in a row?

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 22, 2015, 09:54:49 pm
Those sorry ass Bulls sure looked sharp tonight.

I'd hate to see what they'd do if they were any good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on January 23, 2015, 01:09:20 pm
Its Obama's fault
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 23, 2015, 09:33:55 pm
Very good win by the Bulls in Dallas tonight. Noah returned though he was just okay. Butler was great after halftime and down the stretch, Gibson had one of his better games recently, and Tony Snell played shockingly well starting for Dunleavy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 23, 2015, 10:04:24 pm
They suck though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 24, 2015, 12:12:30 am
Decent 3rd quarter for Klay Thompson tonight.  37 points, an NBA record for a quarter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 24, 2015, 12:29:50 am
He's better than his daddy was.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 25, 2015, 01:00:36 pm
Bulls down 10 to Miami at the half.

A whole exciting 38 points. What is Golden State going to do to them Tuesday night?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 25, 2015, 02:17:18 pm
Bulls lose.

Not much to say other than they sucked  shooting the ball and Hassan Whiteside kicked their ass.

Golden State should win by 20+ Tuesday night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 25, 2015, 02:28:10 pm
And I'm going to have to sit through it at Oracle with my wife rooting for the Warriors.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 27, 2015, 11:07:18 pm
Bulls are actually playing good. They are tied 75-75 late in the 3rd but do they have enough?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 27, 2015, 11:21:13 pm
Doesn't look like it.

Get rid of Hinirch already.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 27, 2015, 11:25:01 pm
Rose has 11 turnovers and 0 assists. That has to be hard to do.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 27, 2015, 11:49:25 pm
Bulls have a chance to win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 27, 2015, 11:49:54 pm
And they go to who else but Kirk Hinrich. Splash.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 27, 2015, 11:55:34 pm
Manage to let GS get a tip-in with 1 second left to send it to OT.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 28, 2015, 12:28:51 am
Bulls somehow pull it out on a Rose jumper late.

Strange the teams they beaten and lost to this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 28, 2015, 12:40:16 am
But they're sorry and dont play D.

Smh.......
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 28, 2015, 12:43:22 am
Their defense has stunk this year whether you shake your head or not.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on January 28, 2015, 06:32:12 am
Looks like you got to see a great game, P2.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 28, 2015, 08:44:58 am
I was pretty miserable during regulation.  The Bulls got behind and stayed behind most of the game, and my wife celebrated with the Oracle fans (she tried to hold back, but couldn't help herself).  It was good to see the Bulls come back and play some tough physical defense in the later stages of the game.  I thought the officiating was pretty awful.  Gasol must have been whacked in the head 3 or 4 times with no foul called.  Finally they called a foul when Curry tried to gouge his eye out.

Some weird decisions by the Warriors, especially at the end of regulation when their out of bounds play down 2 was to have Iguodala shoot a 3.  They were lucky to get the offensive rebound to send the game into overtime.  The Bulls really missed Butler, as Hinrich had no chance defensively against Thompson's size.  Of course, the Warriors desperately missed Bogut to combat the Bulls' size and strength, particularly in OT.

In all, I liked the Bulls' effort after the first quarter, but I didn't see anything that gives me much confidence should the teams meet up again in the postseason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on January 28, 2015, 09:10:24 am
Rose was a sloppy mess, but he was an aggressive, energetic sloppy mess, and he made plays at key times (pass to Kirk for the late 3 in regulation, stop on Curry, and game-winning jumper over Thompson).  He's weird to watch right now.
With Bogut out, it seems like if the Bulls just force-fed Gasol all night they might have won in regulation by 10.

But, still, 4th game in 6 nights and they beat San Antonio, Dallas and the invincible splash bros. at their arena. That was a hellavu fun game on a Tuesday night in January.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 28, 2015, 11:24:26 am
The problem is they now have to play a very bad Lakers team on Thursday night which means thy will half-ass it through three quarters and try to pull it out in the 4th.  Hopefully the fact Pau is returning to LA for the first team will give them some emotion.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 28, 2015, 11:26:37 am
On Rose last night, I'd much rather have that version of Rose than the laid back lethargic version we've seen most of this year.  He knew they were down Jimmy so he tried to pick it up and carry the extra load, the problem is he doesn't know how to do that efficiently any more.  I think this was really good for his comeback.  He'll get better from here.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 28, 2015, 11:34:05 am
The kind of moves Rose put on illustrates that he feels he is just about all the way back physically.  He showed no fear.  The ball handling/passing gaffes were terrible and he needs to figure out not to force his passes and how to do a better job of keeping his teammates involved offensively.  That said, if he can stay healthy, I expect his floor management game and will become more consistent and from all appearances the rest of his offensive game is on the upswing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: FITS on January 29, 2015, 11:04:35 am
Just got a notice from The Score stating that Thib's relationship with Bulls management is "beyond repair."  Wonder what that means.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 29, 2015, 11:52:28 pm
Just pathetic play by the Bulls tonight.  This team is broken.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 30, 2015, 12:25:30 am
Tell that to Golden State and San Antonio.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 30, 2015, 03:00:03 am
Orlando and the Lakers already know this.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 30, 2015, 09:08:14 am
Thibs must go.  His coaching style is unbalanced and he hasn't shown an ability to put players in the best position to succeed.  Continuing to try Mirotic at the 3 is an example.  It completely takes him out of his game.  Thibs would be great as an assistant coach much like Ron Adams but I doubt he will ever coach a championship team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 30, 2015, 09:09:19 am
Thibs also has no fun with the game, and the players appear to take after him.  And it rubs off on those of us watching the games as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 30, 2015, 09:20:40 am
Much like Skiles I think Thibs has a shelf life.  You can only put the pedal to the floor for so long. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 30, 2015, 01:49:09 pm
The anti-Bulls:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/feature/25006230
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 30, 2015, 02:09:19 pm
In the second round of the Waste Management Phoenix open, Tiger Woods shot an 11 over par 82 - his worst round as a professional.

Rory McIlroy may have been correct when he recently named Tiger as one of a couple golfers who don't have many holes left in their career.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 30, 2015, 02:42:21 pm
It's pretty amazing how much his career has gone down since the sex scandal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 30, 2015, 02:42:44 pm
You folks wanting Thibs gone will regret it when they end up with VDN2.  It ain't his fault there are few good defenders on the team, or that Rose is now a mediocre player, or that his team is injury prone.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 30, 2015, 02:51:28 pm
You folks wanting Thibs gone will regret it ... ain't his fault... that Rose is now a mediocre player, or that his team is injury prone.


+1
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 30, 2015, 03:45:40 pm
+2

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 30, 2015, 03:47:29 pm
And I also agree that Tiger's about done.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 30, 2015, 04:27:25 pm
And I also agree that Tiger's about done.
Tiger fluffed another simple chip shot today.  He wasn't far off the green and still didn't make it to the putting surface.  At some point that can't be very far away, he will have to start worrying about staying around too long. 

Willie Mays is one of my all-time favorite ballplayers.   It's sad to think about how Willie embarrassed himself when he ended his career with the Mets.  Tiger fans, and I'm not one of them,  have to be worried that he is doing the same thing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 30, 2015, 04:46:15 pm
Of Bulls interest:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/the-chicago-bulls-are-at-the-crossroads-211634533.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 30, 2015, 04:48:52 pm
Im not a Tiger fan either but you get the feeling with him that his issues are as mental as Rick Ankiel and Mackey Sasser's were that's why there's still some glimmer of hope if he could just get past it.

Ive heard/read that he was an arrogant bastard that thought he was better than everyone else and once the truth came out about his issues it ate him up so bad he's been mindfucked every since.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 30, 2015, 04:54:20 pm
Chris, it looks like Dwyer would support replacing Thibs if there were a good head coaching candidate available.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 30, 2015, 05:14:55 pm
The Rose/Bulls dynamic is broken. I dont think he will ever be able to lead the team... and i think the team has quit on rose more then thibs...

Rose has the same look now that Billy Koch had when he moved to the white sox. He has no confidence left and is forcing the issue instead of accepting his limitations.... at this point the sooner the bulls cut bait the better off they will be.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 30, 2015, 05:23:39 pm
I totally disagree about Rose.  I think a big part of the problem is the offensive system and approach taken by the team.  And the inability of other players to hit wide open 3's is a big problem (the return of Dunleavy whenever that happens will be a big help).  Rose has come a long way back with respect to having the physical ability to penetrate and finish strong.  His ball handling, never his strength, is currently a weakness but his assist:turnover will improve with better offensive balance.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 30, 2015, 05:32:38 pm
Has the offense approach changed that drastically?

Has the approach been changing steadily over the last 3-4 years? Rose's FG% has dropped every year since his 2nd year with the team (even if you discount last year since only 10 games played)

TO ratio has gone up every year too... granted his assists have trended up the entire time. He just doesnt look to be anywhere near the same player... lot of miles and injuries on those legs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 30, 2015, 05:39:21 pm
It's not realistic to expect Rose to ever again be the player he was at his peak.  But he has regained a lot of the quickness and finishing ability that has been his main offensive calling card.  His outside shooting was never a strength, but that is something that he can actually work on to improve.  My biggest concerns about him are his lackluster defense and turnovers.  Too often, they are playing poor team defense and too little is being done to take some of the offensive load off his back when he is in the game.  Again, with respect to the latter point, having a few guys around him who can actually sink an open 3 is key.  That element was in fine evidence early in the season but has been missing for the last several weeks.  Dunleavy's return will help a lot there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 30, 2015, 06:01:46 pm
Also, Noah has only just recently started to look like himself out there.  A healthy and active Noah is key, as Gasol while a fine offensive player needs a lot of help defensively.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 30, 2015, 06:48:09 pm
So poor shooting is expected, poor defense is now also expected, poor turn over ratio expected, missing at-least 30% of a season sadly is also expected.

Is a loss of confidence also expected? Bulls are making rose the center point of the team... imo that is never going to work.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 30, 2015, 07:28:36 pm
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Chris, it looks like Dwyer would support replacing Thibs if there were a good head coaching candidate available.

Isn't that the case for every head coach ever? If the old Bulls had a better replacement for Phil Jackson they may have replaced him too.

I don't agree with all of Dwyer's opinions, but I think he makes some good points.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on January 30, 2015, 10:21:53 pm
The Bulls are 0-7 from the foul line so far against Phoenix. At least I can laugh if not be entertained.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 30, 2015, 10:45:03 pm
Reinsdorf should be looking at replacing Paxson and Forman.

Bulls are getting their heads kicked in again at halftime. On pace to give up 110 points.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: brjones on January 30, 2015, 11:03:17 pm
Three weeks ago, basketball was irrelevant to me...I had watched about 3 NBA games in my life. 

But I live in Atlanta, so I'm now a fair weather Hawks fan.  Go Hawks, they're unstoppable. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on January 31, 2015, 12:02:33 am
Suns win. The Bulls are a broken team.

The defense is garbage, they can't grab loose balls, they miss more underneath shots then I have ever seen. The only bench player worth anything is Brooks. the rest of them suck, including Gibson who looks like he's never played the game before.

Looks like the Cav's will have no problem taking the division. Bulls have blown a 7-game lead. This team is done.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 01, 2015, 10:16:50 am
There just might be something to this analysis of the Bulls' problems:

http://www.blogabull.com/2015/1/31/7956711/signing-pau-gasol-was-a-mistake

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on February 01, 2015, 09:22:38 pm
That may have been the worst play call in the history of the Super Bowl. Historically bad!  You have Lynch and 1 yard to go with a timeout.  Pound it in there!  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 01, 2015, 09:24:17 pm
I'm heart broken.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 01, 2015, 09:49:46 pm
I thought you were a 49er fan like me P2?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 01, 2015, 10:12:50 pm
That may have been the worst play call in the history of the Super Bowl. Historically bad!  You have Lynch and 1 yard to go with a timeout.  Pound it in there!  Unbelievable.

Yeah, you give the ball the Lynch three times, and if he somehow can't pick up one yard, you tip your hat to the Patriots and move on with your life. 

I kind of have to admit, though, I'm not sure the Seattle OC is going to deserve the Steve Bartman/Doug Denkinger type treatment he's about to have coming to him, so in that respect, I feel kind of sorry for him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on February 01, 2015, 10:23:30 pm
Couldn't happen to a nicer group of guys.

The crotch grabber and the ball pooper can go away now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 02, 2015, 03:36:23 am
First thing I thought after that pick was that Seattle had Cubbed the game away.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 02, 2015, 07:46:11 am
That was sarcasm, Jiggs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on February 02, 2015, 07:55:13 am
Quote from: Bleacher Nation
How’d the Super Bowl treat you? With the bases loaded, one out, and down by one in the 9th, Pete Carroll had Miguel Cabrera coming to the plate. And then he pinch hit with Yoenis Cespedes for some reason. I mean, Cespedes is a fine player, but he grounded into a double play to end the game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 02, 2015, 09:12:25 am
Couldn't happen to a nicer group of guys.

The crotch grabber and the ball pooper can go away now.

Yeah I can't say I was too sorry to see them lose, even though I guess I was pulling for them against Brady/Belichick.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 04, 2015, 04:09:23 pm
Boy the Big Orange cleaned house on the recruiting trail today with their 2nd straight top 5 class and even stole one from Dave's Ole Miss Rebels.

Looks like brighter days are ahead in Knoxville too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 04, 2015, 05:31:30 pm
Some pretty good perspective from former 2 star recruit J.J. Watt ....

Quote
JJ Watt        ✔ @JJWatt
Follow

Annual reminder that it's not all about how many stars you have or how many cameras show up at your signing. It's what you do next.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 04, 2015, 09:00:59 pm
Bulls are ****

They aren't even watchable anymore. Kind of like the Cubs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 04, 2015, 09:06:19 pm
Rose is 2-9 from 3pt range.

Noah is 0-8.

Gasol is 3-8.

Hinrich is 1-5. Time to find another option there.

Nikola Mirotic is 1-8. Remember when he was just ok?

At this rate they'll finish behind the Bucks in the standings. Either way they wont go far in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on February 05, 2015, 01:35:18 pm
Any other team would be considering trades to shake up the team.  The Bulls front office will stand pat and insist that getting Dunleavy back is the answer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on February 05, 2015, 02:01:20 pm
Meanwhile, the Blackhawks are floundering as much as the Bulls. I'm guessing Stan Bowman will try to make a deal for a defenseman, but salary cap stuff makes it tough.

(Agree, Robb, on Pax/Gar maintaining status quo).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 05, 2015, 04:10:03 pm
The Blackhawks have hit a lull, but they aren't underperforming to nearly the extent that the Bulls are.  It'll be interesting to see how the 'Hawks handle the upcoming back to back against the Jets and Blues.  I expect them to play very well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 05, 2015, 05:31:08 pm
What P2 said
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 05, 2015, 06:15:05 pm
The Blackhawks have been basically a .500 team over the last three weeks. Thanks to the NHL's new playoff format they'll likely have to beat both the Blues and Preds just to get to the conference finals. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 08, 2015, 07:10:58 pm
The Bulls just lost to the 16-37 Magic for the second time this season.

A game in which they had a 16-pt lead after one quarter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 08, 2015, 07:14:38 pm
The B'Hawks responded well this weekend, as I anticipated.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 08, 2015, 07:20:55 pm
Actually, the Bulls somehow have a chance to win it. They were dead in the water a minute ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 08, 2015, 07:23:02 pm
They take the lead after a Gasol putback dunk. Got a chance for utter thievery.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 08, 2015, 07:23:35 pm
Well I'll be damned.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 08, 2015, 07:24:13 pm
Bulls get lucky tonight. Somehow they outscore Orlando 7-0 with about 30 seconds left and snatch a victory.

Two in a row!.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 08, 2015, 07:46:22 pm
Looks like Orlando had to really work hard to give that one away.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 08, 2015, 07:56:39 pm
Clear path foul, and over-and-back violation helped.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 08, 2015, 08:13:47 pm
Not boxing out Gasol was also a little factor.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 10, 2015, 04:27:33 am
The Blackhawks found a new and interesting way to lose last night, scoring in OT and still losing. Hard to manage that, but they did.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 10, 2015, 11:30:04 am
Disallowed goal was tough ,1st period was pretty underwhelming , Kane's dumb ass penalty gave me fits, and not using Hossa in SO was questionable....with 7 more home ice games to go and I expect better results...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 10, 2015, 01:58:27 pm
That said, the Hawks really didn't play poorly last night.  Smith was awesome.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 10, 2015, 07:20:26 pm
Smith played a helluva game agreed, still Hawks could have played better on the power play opportunities. ..wonder when Versteeg comes back?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 10, 2015, 09:14:12 pm
I read that he might be back tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 10, 2015, 09:19:37 pm
The Bulls got Dunleavy back tonight and then lost Butler. In other words, a day that ends in y.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on February 11, 2015, 07:46:08 am
Is anyone suprised that Chicago cheated in the LLWS? It got stripped of it's US Championship today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 11, 2015, 07:54:34 am
Is anyone suprised that Chicago cheated in the LLWS? It got stripped of it's US Championship today.
Yes
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 11, 2015, 07:58:28 am
What is LLWS?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 11, 2015, 08:01:23 am
Little league world series...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on February 11, 2015, 08:05:40 am
We've had youth football teams disqualified here for similar cheating tactics - its not the kids instigating these scenarios
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 11, 2015, 08:28:49 am
Spot on Bear...adults ruining the kids game
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 11, 2015, 09:19:30 am
I'm surprised that the adults who are vicariously living through the kids and whose egos put the accomplishments  of the kids at risk. I feel srry for the kids who are probably bewildered about now and disillusioned.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 11, 2015, 09:20:18 am
Looks like Bear beat me to it
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 11, 2015, 09:33:01 am
I don't know Chicago youth sports all that well, but how exactly did Jackie Robinson West poach players from surrounding Little Leagues?  I get it that they can't just take whatever players they want in the entire city, and I'm sure Chicago is probably home to several Little League leagues and territories.  But what exactly made their recruiting so egregious that they'd strip the title from them? 

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I'm surprised that the adults who are vicariously living through the kids and whose egos put the accomplishments  of the kids at risk. I feel srry for the kids who are probably bewildered about now and disillusioned.

I guess one thing I have to admit too is when I first read the story about Las Vegas challenging Chicago's championship (comparing them to Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds in the process . . . seriously?) was that it sounded like a bunch of sore loser, overzealous, over-competitive little league parents from Las Vegas who were also living vicariously through their kids. 

This situation just stinks to me all around.  I really hate it for the kids from Chicago.  At least they got to meet the President and had a few moments to feel on top of the world.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 11, 2015, 09:40:20 am
The moved the boarders of their little league to get their better players.  They didn't talk to the other  little leagues around them to approve the change in their boarders. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 11, 2015, 09:50:06 am
Yeah I get that part.  I guess I'm just curious how far they extended the borders.  If they extended them, say a handful of miles outside their normal territory for instance, I wish they could have come up with a different punishment besides stripping them of the title.  (Like banning their coaches or league administrators from having anything to do with Little League again.)

If they decided to do something like just make the whole city of Chicago their territory, I can see that as pretty egregious cheating. 

Perhaps I'm also just a little dismayed to see those Las Vegas people get what they want out of this.  If the Chicago team cheated by going a couple of miles outside their territory, I just can't really sympathize with the Las Vegas parents putting all the time and energy into uncovering all of that and taking something away from the Chicago kids. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 11, 2015, 11:05:25 am
Here's a plan: let the kids keep their championship, ban the adults.   
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 11, 2015, 12:32:24 pm
https://instagram.com/p/vExl2WtNIf/embed/captioned/?v=4 (https://instagram.com/p/vExl2WtNIf/embed/captioned/?v=4)

They took it away for that?  Heck, I'm from outside the boundaries too and I kept my job!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 11, 2015, 12:54:38 pm
I coached little league for a few years and ran the league one year and as dumb as it may be they dont play when it comes to that.

Travel baseball has killed LLs numbers but the draw for a kid to make it to the LLWS is still strong enough that cheating does happen.

With that said those Chicago kids and everyone who watched it knows who won regardless of what the records may say.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 11, 2015, 02:43:25 pm
Yeah I get that part.  I guess I'm just curious how far they extended the borders.  If they extended them, say a handful of miles outside their normal territory for instance, I wish they could have come up with a different punishment besides stripping them of the title.  (Like banning their coaches or league administrators from having anything to do with Little League again.)

If they decided to do something like just make the whole city of Chicago their territory, I can see that as pretty egregious cheating. 

Perhaps I'm also just a little dismayed to see those Las Vegas people get what they want out of this.  If the Chicago team cheated by going a couple of miles outside their territory, I just can't really sympathize with the Las Vegas parents putting all the time and energy into uncovering all of that and taking something away from the Chicago kids. 

I think it was only a few miles, but that was where some of their best players came from.  It would be like the Cubs taking Sale, Samardzija, Rodon from the White Sox and just saying tough luck.  Yes, the parents are too blame for this and the kids "losing" their title hurts the kids.  It also sucks for the Vegas kids to not get the experience of playing in the LLWS becasue they played by the rules. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 11, 2015, 02:50:17 pm
"I think it was only a few miles, but that was where some of their best players came from.  It would be like the Cubs taking Sale, Samardzija, Rodon from the White Sox and just saying tough luck."

Now there's an idea to pursue!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 11, 2015, 03:54:36 pm
Mark Mulder tweeted earlier that JRW has been bending the rules since he played against them in his youth.

Shame for the kids...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 11, 2015, 04:03:47 pm
Not really.

They got to be on ESPN and got to live a dream that they might not have been able to otherwise.

The parents and the kids all know what kids are in their league and which ones arent and they sure didnt make a fuss.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on February 11, 2015, 04:08:46 pm
Cuz their 15 minutes of fame is certainly more rewarding than doing the right thing - that's way too old school
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 11, 2015, 04:11:43 pm
Mark Mulder tweeted earlier that JRW has been bending the rules since he played against them in his youth.

Shame for the kids...

Yep.  Too bad nobody took their cheating seriously until just now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 11, 2015, 08:26:25 pm
Hawks are playing lifeless, sloppy hockey at present losing to Canucks 2-1,Kane scored #29 early in 2nd
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 11, 2015, 08:45:18 pm
Hawks have been average for more than a month.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 11, 2015, 09:02:11 pm
Damb! 3-1 Canucks going into 3rd...home ice not so friendly...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 11, 2015, 09:57:00 pm
Furious 3rd period comeback by Hawks ties game 4-4...Canucks win in ot 5-4...Hossa scores 2 tonight giving him 6 in 3 games! Serious regrouping has to take place. Ugh!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on February 12, 2015, 06:25:38 am
Poor kids from Chicago?

I say Poor kids from Vegas.  They got cheated out of a chance of playing for the World Title.  They got cheated out of chance to meet the Prez.  They got cheated out of trips to DC.

The administrators, coaches and parents of the Chicago team are shameless.  They knew what they were doing was wrong and they did it anyway.

I think they are just disgusting.  I also find it apalling that some people defend it.  "Oh it was only stretching the limits by a few miles.  They shouldn't be punished for that.  Who cares if the footballs were deflated it had no outcome on the game."  Rules are rules.  They are made for reasons.  You break them you not only hurt your team but you take away from others and damage the game.

**Climbing down off my soapbox now**
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on February 12, 2015, 06:40:35 am
It seems only one poster is not really bothered at all by the Little League team that cheating.  Not surprising.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 12, 2015, 06:46:22 am
"They got cheated out of chance to meet the Prez."

Why are you listing perks with the downers?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on February 12, 2015, 08:06:28 am
You know the media wanted Mone' Davis' team to go all the way
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on February 12, 2015, 09:01:47 am
"They got cheated out of chance to meet the Prez."

Why are you listing perks with the downers?

Yeah.  I almost put a disclaimer with that one.  No matter who holds the office though, it's still cool to meet the President of the United States of America..
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on February 12, 2015, 08:24:43 pm
Blackhawks seem to be in "throw sh*t at the wall and see what will stick mode," as they sent down Teravainin and brought up 2013 first round pick Ryan Hartman, who I sense is like Andrew Shaw. From just after he was drafted: "Hartman is a do-it-all type player who can provide significant two-way value despite being a tad undersized, at around 5'11". He is smart, and he makes creative plays in both puck handling and passing. He is a very aware defensive player...This S.O.B. is one miserable [player] to play against! Industrial strength abrasive and is always disturbing the peace--usually after the whistle--and gets opponents off their game and under their skin." (taken from two different reports that I combined)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on February 12, 2015, 09:30:37 pm
These nights when Rose plays like he played tonight are, at the very least, a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 12, 2015, 09:58:44 pm
They just whooped the Cavs but we all need to remember how shitty they are.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 12, 2015, 10:38:12 pm
The Bulls beat Cleveland for the first time in three tries, yet are 9-10 over their last 19 games, and that would be worse had Orlando not handed them a win on Sunday.

Jiggs is apparently so happy with that trend that he boats every time they win now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on February 12, 2015, 11:17:08 pm
Jiggs owns a boat?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 12, 2015, 11:31:14 pm
Nope.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 12, 2015, 11:37:56 pm
Sorta well played.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on February 13, 2015, 12:42:00 am
Poor kids from Chicago?

I say Poor kids from Vegas.


....and the poor kids from the Tri-Cities Little League from West Dundee, IL who lost the championship game of the Illinois State Tournament to JRW and were deprived of their chance to compete in the Great Lakes Region;

....and the kids from New Albany, Indiana who lost the championship game of the Great Lakes Region and didn't get their deserved chance to compete in the Little League Tournament in Williamsport, PA. 

There's also the kids from Rosemoor LL, the 2nd place team from IL District 4, who didn't get to compete the IL Section 3 Tournament

....and the IL Section 3 Tournament runner-up, Lansing (IL) LL,  who didn't get their deserved chance to compete in the Illinois State Tournament. 

All because the adults associated with JRW cheated (especially their League President & League Player Agent who are both responsible for making sure the players lived within their approved league boundaries and are required to sign a legal document to that effect) with the help from their IL District 4 Administrator who has long time ties to the JRW program.  The District Administrator also signs off that they have verified all of the residency documentation is accurate.

As someone who spent 10 years involved with Little League® as both a local board member and a District board member,  I quickly found that the worst thing about youth sports is the adults who try to manipulate the system to their own benefit.

Little League® official press release:   http://www.littleleague.org/media/llnewsarchive/2015/January-April/little-league-jrw-ruling.htm (http://www.littleleague.org/media/llnewsarchive/2015/January-April/little-league-jrw-ruling.htm)



Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 13, 2015, 01:58:29 am
Little league parents are un fn believable to deal with.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 13, 2015, 07:35:15 am
Chris, would you care to comment on the quality of Rose's game last night?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 13, 2015, 04:03:45 pm
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Chris, would you care to comment on the quality of Rose's game last night?

I only saw a small portion of the game but apparently he looked very good. He's had good games this year but they've been interspersed with poor ones. Certainly, he looks better than he did in December.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 13, 2015, 06:29:37 pm
Rose was fantastic.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 13, 2015, 07:37:12 pm
I'm intrigued and cautiously excited about Tony Snell's recent play.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 14, 2015, 11:52:34 am
Losing streak snapped...Hossa (of course) ties game at 1 in 3rd period, then he assists Toews for the go ahead/winner, Versteeg gets an empty netter...3-1 victory 'Hawks...again the first 2 periods just mediocre...young Ryan Hartman was  very impressive in his debut, in his first 6 seconds of his 1st shift he crushes Zubrus in Devils end, then Zidlicky against boards seconds later, pretty frickin impressive, cool kid good awareness, plus lots of energy...good night all in all
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 15, 2015, 04:13:03 pm
'Hawks beat the Penguins 2-1 shootout...Crawford was strong in goal....Toews, Kane, Sharp winn I ng shooters in OT
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on February 15, 2015, 09:21:47 pm
Kane's shootout goal made me laugh out loud.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 16, 2015, 03:25:01 pm
 Lol,Kane is just sick with the stick....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 20, 2015, 08:59:00 pm
Bulls start the second half with a loss to a bad Detroit team. Rose took just 9 shots; 8 points, 6 TO's.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 20, 2015, 08:59:33 pm
The Pistons just beat the Bulls pretty easily.

Mike Dunleavy who is so important was 0-5 with  a whopping 0 points.

MVP was 2-9 with 8 points.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 20, 2015, 09:57:05 pm
Oh and the Blackhawks are awful too. Another bad loss at home to a horrible team that got clobbered last night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 21, 2015, 07:59:14 am
Oh and the Blackhawks are awful too. Another bad loss at home to a horrible team that got clobbered last night.
absolutely correct chris
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 21, 2015, 10:26:28 am
I'm starting to worry a bit about the B'Hawks.  I'm hoping that they're just in a bit of a lull since it really doesn't matter that much what seed they end up with.  They will be difficult to oust in a 7 game series against anyone.  The Bulls are a different issue since home court advantage is so important in the playoffs (even as bad as they have been at home).  They will have to ramp up their play and consistency to make it out of the 2nd round.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on February 21, 2015, 11:53:41 am
Hard to argue that the BHawks are elite right now. I did see a stat where each of the last 3 January-February periods have seen the Hawks below .500 and seeming to go through the motions. But they are older, and their defense is shaky and hard to see them just "flip a switch" come playoff time.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 21, 2015, 02:47:38 pm
'Hawks PP is just not where it needs to be especially with entry at the blue line, stop trying to be fancy with their passes, pucks on the net!





Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 23, 2015, 10:56:43 am
2-2-3 on this homestand, below average defensive play, personnel moves to and from Rockford,inconsistent offensive firepower really have the Blackhawks reeling...maybe get a greasy win against Panthers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on February 23, 2015, 11:39:41 am
They look horrible but I still think it will be hard for anyone to beat them 4 out of 7.  I predict they will be in the final if they get past St. Louis. That team scares me the most in the west.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 23, 2015, 04:45:49 pm
The way the NHL now has the format set up, the Hawks will likely have to beat the Blues and Preds just to reach the conference finals. Good luck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 09:44:57 pm
BREAKING NEWS: Derrick Rose has torn his meniscus in his right knee.

Season over
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 24, 2015, 09:47:29 pm
Good Lord.

Retire already.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 09:51:00 pm
He doesn't do it on purpose,  but it's time for the Bulls to cut their losses and move on.

No sense in even watching now them now. Cleveland has the division wrapped up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 09:58:42 pm
Now Kane has left the Hawks game due to injury.

How long will Lester last? 3 games?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 24, 2015, 10:00:08 pm
If we're lucky ...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 10:00:22 pm
and the Hawks give up a late goal

Chicago sports can rot in hell.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 24, 2015, 10:07:52 pm
No big deal if the Hawks can salvage 2 points.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 24, 2015, 10:16:07 pm
I have zero clue how much of the NBA season is left, but didn't McDermott come back from the same injury in 6-8 weeks?

Edit:  It likely depends on how bad the tear is.  If it is a mild tear they can just trim up the tear.  If it is a complete tear they have to remove the entire meniscus or a large portion of it. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 10:17:35 pm
They have about 25 games left or so.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 10:18:09 pm
Hawks win in the shootout.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 24, 2015, 10:22:21 pm
This whole sports town is one big disaster.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 24, 2015, 10:25:32 pm
Except for the Cubs, White Sox, Blackhawks, and Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 10:54:13 pm
This is the same injury he had back in November of 2013.

He's done.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 24, 2015, 11:11:32 pm
I agree.

We lost Jay Williams to unusual circumstances and we're gonna suffer the same fate with D Rose.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 11:29:16 pm
The news on Kane doesn't sound good.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 24, 2015, 11:37:18 pm
Chicago Tribune: The injury to Kane does not look good.

Chicago Sports Talk: Patrick Kane suffered a potentially awful injury.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on February 25, 2015, 06:15:14 am
The annual Derrick Rose injury has arrived, is it that time of year already?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 25, 2015, 08:21:22 am
From the Trib:

"A source said Rose was told after (the previous) surgery that a second tear could happen and typically those are treated by cutting or removing the damage. That generally involves a shorter rehabilitation of three to six weeks."

It's hard to imagine Rose being back for the playoffs, but it does suggest that he might be ready next Fall.  It'll be interesting to see how the team responds to his absence.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 25, 2015, 08:23:50 am
As for Kane, I'll be satisfied if he is healthy come playoff time.  The team is going to finish with a middle seed, and Kane's loss doesn't matter a whole lot in that regard.  But they will need him big time for the postseason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 25, 2015, 03:13:58 pm
Kane expected to miss 6-10 weeks. Playoffs start in 6.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 25, 2015, 04:49:14 pm
Sounds like a broken collar bone
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on February 25, 2015, 05:56:34 pm
Blackhawks‬ announce Patrick Kane will miss 3 months after surgery for a broken left clavicle.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on February 25, 2015, 07:41:37 pm
12 weeks! Damn...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 27, 2015, 11:00:19 pm
Who is this moron posting at ESPN?

Justin Riddick · Top Commenter ·
Titans, please don't be stupid. Draft Mariota if he's there. Thank you.
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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 28, 2015, 09:16:05 am
Who is this moron posting at ESPN?

Justin Riddick · Top Commenter ·
Titans, please don't be stupid. Draft Mariota if he's there. Thank you.
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Ha!  Yeah the thing I don't understand is you need a QB to win in the NFL, and a guy like Mariota, who has all the tools and all of the intangibles you look for in a QB, sounds like he'll wind up falling in the Titans' lap if they want him.  And it sounds more and more like they're not going to take him. 

My gut feeling is the Titans are going to trade down and stock up on picks so their crack scouting staff can draft more terrible players like Bishop Sankey, Justin Hunter, and Blidi Wreh-Wilson.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on February 28, 2015, 12:27:07 pm
Maybe they like Zach Mettenberger better.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 28, 2015, 02:54:08 pm
I think Mettenberger has potential.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 28, 2015, 05:17:09 pm
Definitely...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on February 28, 2015, 10:28:40 pm
Stan Bowman, and the Blackhawks, have signaled that aren't giving up in the wake of Kane's injury. I like it -- Kimmo and Vermette are pretty strong trade deadline additions to a team that's going for it. With the cap, they are going to have to shed some guys prior to next year, so as a fan I appreciate them going for it now, long-shot though it may be without Kane.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 01, 2015, 12:01:05 am
Who in the world doesnt find Ronda Rousey so attractive that you could just maul her?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 01, 2015, 11:45:35 am
I can get the Mettenberger love a little bit, but still it's not like he was that great last year and there's a reason he went in the 6th round. 

QB's just the one position you really need to get right, and when a guy like Mariota is available, I don't see why you'd want to put all of your eggs in the Mettenberger basket.

JMHO.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 01, 2015, 11:46:26 am
Who in the world doesnt find Ronda Rousey so attractive that you could just maul her?

I think for the majority of people here, it would be Ronda Rousey who would be doing most of the mauling.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 01, 2015, 11:51:53 am
LMAO
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on March 01, 2015, 12:10:22 pm
I think for the majority of people here, it would be Ronda Rousey who would be doing most of the mauling.
LMAO
Dusty wouldn't mind.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on March 02, 2015, 05:18:51 pm
Jimmy Butler out 3-6 weeks.

Now we can call it a season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on March 03, 2015, 01:17:37 pm
noticed yesterday that the starting lineup of Pao-Joakim-Butler-Rose-Dunleavey have only played together 20 times this year...Bulls record in those games 15-5
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on March 06, 2015, 07:04:20 am
Great come from behind win by the Bulls.  Who would have thought Mirotic and Moore would be the stars?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on March 06, 2015, 08:24:34 pm
Not tonight. Indiana beat their heads in
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 06, 2015, 08:28:00 pm
NBA needs to pare down the schedule and drastically reduce the number of back to backs.  The NBA schedule is brutal, and it's clearly taking a toll on players around the league.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 06, 2015, 10:11:35 pm
At least the Bulls have the excuse of injuries. The Blackhawks are on the verge of falling to fourth in their own division.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 07, 2015, 12:07:29 am
I thought they picked up 2 points tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 07, 2015, 04:34:10 am
Yep, they did. Got completely outplayed and gave up 48 shots at home to an awful Oilers squad, but they did eek out a shootout win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on March 07, 2015, 11:44:10 am
On the plus side for the Hawks - Preds are 3-6-1 over last 10.  They are only 2 pts from 2nd and 6 from 1st.

I certainly don't have the confidence I did in them at the beginning of the season.  But hopefully they peak at the playoffs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on March 08, 2015, 12:55:54 pm
Bulls may lose by 20 or more today at San Antonio.


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 08, 2015, 09:07:39 pm
Blackhawks get shut out at home by the Rangers. They have scored 19 goals over their last 11 games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 08, 2015, 10:50:08 pm
They still eked out a point, and the Rangers are very good.  I'm not so worried about the B'Hawks.  Yet.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on March 09, 2015, 01:09:19 pm
The Hawks Powerplay is AWFUL....they have got to get with it
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 13, 2015, 08:14:31 pm
Bulls getting blown out by Charlotte.  Truly sad.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on March 13, 2015, 08:17:49 pm
Sad but not shocking.

Bulls and Blackhawks should be out early in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on March 18, 2015, 09:48:44 pm
Blackhawks and backup goalie Scott Darling shut-out the Rangers in NYC a night after thumping a surprisingly good Islanders team in Chicago. Since Kane went out the Hawks are something like 9-1-1, and are either tied are just behind the predators, despite playing 2-fewer games than the Preds.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 18, 2015, 10:34:20 pm
They're two behind Nashville who have all the tiebreaks, so essentially three behind.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 19, 2015, 09:41:41 pm
How did this kid not become a Cub?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/basketball/67458936/F-what-a-great-name-for-a-basketball-player
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 19, 2015, 10:43:47 pm
LMAO
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 21, 2015, 08:31:20 pm
Just when the Hawks and Bulls seem to be gaining momentum, .......................
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on March 21, 2015, 08:37:30 pm
no sense in worrying about them, especially the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 26, 2015, 07:28:30 pm
For Bulls fans:

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/3/26/8284937/nikola-mirotic-chicago-bulls-highlights-awkward-tom-thibodeau
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on March 28, 2015, 08:53:39 pm
Bulls up 34 in the 4th quarter and still no McDermott, Moore, Mohammed, or Bairstow.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on March 28, 2015, 10:38:51 pm
McDermott is hurt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 29, 2015, 03:10:30 am
Mirotic seems to be the real deal. Butler is starting to look like his pre-injury self too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 04, 2015, 10:23:46 pm
Hmmm...I was pulling for Wisconsin, but it was weird hearing the announcers pulling for them too.  Lots of criticism of the officiating tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 04, 2015, 10:33:54 pm
Hmmm...I was pulling for Wisconsin, but it was weird hearing the announcers pulling for them too.  Lots of criticism of the officiating tonight.

There is a reason for it as there were three different announcing crews doing the game.  TruTv had the Wisconsin-biased announcers.  TNT has the Kentucky-biased announcers.  TBS was the 'national' neutral broadcast.


(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/otherstuff/WISvsKEN.04042015FINAL_zps0udput84.png)


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 04, 2015, 10:36:38 pm
Ah, I didn't know that.  Yes, I was on Tru.  Makes sense now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: craig on April 04, 2015, 11:12:00 pm
Go Badgers! 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 05, 2015, 12:00:52 am
Gotta love seeing the MildCats go down.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 05, 2015, 12:30:35 am
Gotta love seeing the MildCats go down.


I bet you loved this too DUSTY.  Dave23 probably didn't.     ;D


(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/otherstuff/TENMIS.04042015FINAL_zpskkm5igc8.png)





Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 05, 2015, 03:17:44 am
Yep.

UT has been awful disappointing this season though.

We were supposed to be good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on April 05, 2015, 09:21:57 am
Both teams are pretty blah...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 05, 2015, 12:16:38 pm
Go Badgers! 
Craig, you know Dekker is from Sheboygan Lutheran, was his dad, Todd, one of your contemporaries at Christian?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 05, 2015, 02:25:58 pm

College baseball is on right now on ESPN-U.  Casey Clemens, son of Roger, is pitching for Texas vs. Oklahoma State.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 05, 2015, 02:29:04 pm
Thirty seconds after I posted the above, Texas makes a pitching change with one out in the bottom of the 4th.  Texas is losing to Oklahoma State 4-2. OK State going for the weekend sweep.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: craig on April 05, 2015, 02:57:25 pm
Craig, you know Dekker is from Sheboygan Lutheran, was his dad, Todd, one of your contemporaries at Christian?

Hi, Curt.  Sam Dekker's Dad (Todd Dekker) went to Sheboygan Christian grade school (grades 1-8) and was in my oldest brother's class.  Family went to my church, I know well.  That was about three years before Sheboygan Christian was founded. 

Todd's cousins were a grade ahead of me and behind at Sheboygan Christian, both grade school and high school.  So every year from little league through high school either one or the other of the Dekker cousins was on my basketball and baseball teams. 

Sam has really improved a lot.  His jump shot is kind of unstable, and has an uncommon amount of arch on it.  So I wonder if he goes NBA, if he'll be out of the league in three years.  But many he's picks a good time to be out of his mind on his shooting. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 05, 2015, 03:17:53 pm
Cool...figured you might be close to his age.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chiman on April 05, 2015, 05:34:24 pm

Curt, you know Moses is from Mount Sanai Christian Academy, was his dad, Amram, one of your contemporaries back in the day?   😁
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 05, 2015, 05:52:50 pm
No, he lived over on Pharoah's Court.  My folks lived on Grovelers Lane.  He was a class behind me at Pyramid High.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chiman on April 05, 2015, 06:10:02 pm
Sorry, I couldn't resist
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 06, 2015, 08:20:21 pm

If there is anyone here that wants to watch the NCAA Men's D1 Basketball Championship game and doesn't have access to a TV, the live feed can be found at:

http://www.ncaa.com/march-madness-live/game/701?hpt=mml_intbrack_pop_live&iid=mml2015_bracket_popup (http://www.ncaa.com/march-madness-live/game/701?hpt=mml_intbrack_pop_live&iid=mml2015_bracket_popup)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 10, 2015, 12:39:19 pm
Jordan Spieth looks like he's just going nuts at the Masters so far.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 10, 2015, 01:57:11 pm
It's really too bad he blew it on the 15th yesterday, he could have beaten the record for a low round in a major.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on April 12, 2015, 08:40:16 pm
"Rinne finished the season first in the NHL (minimum 25 starts) with a .721 quality start percentage, and Crawford was third with a .696 percentage. Minnesota Wild netminder Devan Dubnyk was second with a .698 percentage."

I didn't realize Craw had played that well.  Man I hope the Hawks can get past the Preds while Kane comes back.  So then they can hopefully make some noise.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 13, 2015, 09:19:50 am
All of the potential first-round match ups for the BHawks were going to be tough, but with the way the Preds stumbled down the stretch of the regular season they seem slightly less-scary the Blues or Wild. Slightly.

By the way, if Kane comes back for game 1, there will be complaints that the Hawks conveniently put him on long-term IR during the regular season so that they had cap space for Vermette and Timonen. It hadn't occurred to me that this conspiracy was out there until I ran into some Wild fans at a family wedding over the weekend and they brought it up.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on April 13, 2015, 01:11:33 pm
Hawks and Preds will be a fantastic series...Hawks in 7 games
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 13, 2015, 01:38:21 pm
Nah, Preds in 4 games.  :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 13, 2015, 01:42:17 pm
Neither outcome would be surprising. Looks like Kane will be back miraculously early. Cool.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 13, 2015, 11:23:03 pm
Ah, yes, Husker pride   http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12685376/lawrence-phillips-former-nfl-running-back-suspected-killing-prison-cellmate

I think Tom Osborne wants a do-over on this one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 14, 2015, 12:57:28 am
Damn.

That's really all you can say.

I watch Lockup on MSNBC damn near daily and usually when that happens its a you or them thing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on April 14, 2015, 09:00:50 am
Ah, yes, Husker pride   http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12685376/lawrence-phillips-former-nfl-running-back-suspected-killing-prison-cellmate

I think Tom Osborne wants a do-over on this one.

I doubt it.   Phillips was hardly the only scumbag that Osborne kept on the team despite committing pretty bad crimes - sexual assault, attempted murder, assault with a weapon, etc. And in one of the cases, Osborne himself hid the gun that one of his players shot as the police were actively investigating the case.  Winning was clearly the top priority which doesn't make him any different than the rest of his peers. If only he hadn't been such a hypocritical piece of ****. If you are going to go all out to win, just own it. Don't pretend like you are some paragon of virtue and your players are choirboys when it's so obviously not true.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 15, 2015, 10:18:33 am
Hernandez is found guilty.  Wonder if he'll still be a tight end in prison.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 15, 2015, 11:27:41 am
He better be.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on April 15, 2015, 01:10:37 pm
jes must have been his defense atty...oh wait, he can't do that!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 15, 2015, 01:12:20 pm
Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 15, 2015, 03:13:20 pm
I'm just amazed that someone like Hernandez would do something like that with all that he had going for him, and he had the kind of gall that made him think he'd get away with murder. 

By the way, Lester Munson posted a good article detailing the good work the prosecution did in obtaining the guilty verdict.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/12696042/aaron-hernandez-prosecutors-score-enormous-triumph-murder-conviction
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 15, 2015, 04:53:57 pm
The guy is a thug.  He's been one for some time.  A smug thug.  His arrogance permeated the courtroom.  He practically convicted himself with his demeanor.

I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on tv, but I was "shocked" that his lawyer pulled the argument out of his a$$ in summation that Hernandez was present when Odin was killed but didn't actually do the killing.  I know that was to introduce doubt, but, if I was a juror, my take would have been, this thug belongs in prison for life.

I'm a little surprised, JR, that they haven't blamed the NFL for brain damage.  Maybe that will be the appeal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 15, 2015, 05:01:15 pm
Good article
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 15, 2015, 05:20:50 pm
Wasnt the word that he's involved in another murder too?

That's a Florida Gator for you.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 15, 2015, 05:48:45 pm
I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on tv, but I was "shocked" that his lawyer pulled the argument out of his a$$ in summation that Hernandez was present when Odin was killed but didn't actually do the killing.  I know that was to introduce doubt, but, if I was a juror, my take would have been, this thug belongs in prison for life.

Yeah the jurors said exactly that after the trial.

http://deadspin.com/jurors-say-aaron-hernandezs-defense-was-baffling-1697994540

Actually after reading that article, I kind of borderline wonder if Hernandez's lawyers didn't want to see him get away with it either.  I know that's not what a lawyer professionally should be doing, but still . . .
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 15, 2015, 05:58:39 pm
Yeah, I saw that in the article, JR.  I am SO smart I said it before reading the article.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 15, 2015, 06:41:57 pm
Unlike Jacey, I still have a lot of respect for Jes' legal take on things.  If he comments on this let me know.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 15, 2015, 07:28:10 pm
Glad he was convicted. he'll now stand trial for a double murder committed earlier. Just confess Aaron and safe the spectacle and costs. Regarding the defense admitting he was there etc, an attorney posted a comment to the deadspin thread that makes some sense:

"I think the defense had to concede he was there, because if he wasn’t, it meant that the was the most unlucky motherf*cker in the history of the universe. All evidence pointed to the fact that he was there, and if he wasn’t and he didn’t have anything to do with it at ALL, you’re left with no explanation as to why he got rid of a gun, got rid of a pair of sweet Air Jordans, and other important evidence. The only explanation that doesn’t put him directly in the soup is “he was there but he had no idea it was going to happen, was shocked when it did, and afterward tried to help out his friends”. That’s a crime, but it ain’t murder, and had the jury wanted to believe it they could have."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 15, 2015, 08:26:22 pm
Blackhawks getting trashed, so are the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 15, 2015, 09:17:16 pm
looked like a night both Bulls/BHawks would get thrashed, but after 2 periods Hawks have tied it up, and Bulls are up late.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 15, 2015, 09:24:51 pm
The Hawks sat their starters for much of the 2nd half while Thibs played Butler 40 minutes and Gasol 38. Now the Bulls are on the same side of the playoff bracket as Cleveland.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 15, 2015, 11:26:38 pm
Well that sucked.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 15, 2015, 11:28:28 pm
Well that ruled.

Scott Darling, Chicago-area kid. Nice!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on April 16, 2015, 01:12:53 pm
Unlike Jacey, I still have a lot of respect for Jes' legal take on things.  If he comments on this let me know.
Its not that I don't have respect for Jes. I kind of feel sorry for him
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 16, 2015, 02:58:43 pm
I dont.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 17, 2015, 11:17:50 pm
PREDS!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 17, 2015, 11:18:36 pm
Corey Crawford = whole lotta suck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 17, 2015, 11:33:51 pm
The Blackhawks have been a mediocre team for three months, really much of the past two seasons. Crawford might have been bad tonight but the team has been outplayed the majority of the series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 19, 2015, 05:08:07 pm
Meh.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 19, 2015, 05:21:15 pm
Impressive third period by the B'Hawks.  They made very few mistakes.  If they can sustain that level of play, they will be tough for any team to beat.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 19, 2015, 05:32:25 pm
It helps that Weber is out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 20, 2015, 02:29:59 pm
Per the score Doug Buffone has died
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 20, 2015, 03:01:25 pm
Who's that?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on April 20, 2015, 03:29:33 pm
Former Bears LB and I believe was a radio guy with the Score.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 20, 2015, 03:42:01 pm
Oh.

I didnt mean any disrespect.

I may be a Bulls and Cubs fan but Im a 49ers fan in football.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on April 20, 2015, 04:01:19 pm
I had to look it up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 20, 2015, 04:11:13 pm
If Santo had done a post-game cubs radio show, that's what Buffone was (former star player, who was all heart/passion in terms of radio comments).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on April 20, 2015, 04:33:43 pm
Played LB for years next to Butkus.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 20, 2015, 06:53:50 pm
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/doug-buffone-former-chicago-bears-linebacker-dies-at-70-042015
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 20, 2015, 06:55:41 pm
He was an awesome player and was even better on the radio. He told it like it was and didn't care who thought it was wrong.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 20, 2015, 07:04:45 pm
He was an awesome player and was even better on the radio. He told it like it was and didn't care who thought it was wrong.

There was nothing more entertaining than listening to Doug Buffone & Ed O'Bradovich doing the post-game show after a Bears game. Even after a loss to Green Bay they were great to listen to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osIzg4zyKVM

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 20, 2015, 07:50:25 pm
You just can't and won't replace him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on April 21, 2015, 01:10:39 pm
Bufffone was the epitome of the Bears- gritty even after his playing career was over
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on April 22, 2015, 07:01:54 am
Hawks!

I have more confidence with Darling in net than Crawford for some reason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 22, 2015, 07:41:36 am
Incredible triple-OT 3-2 win last night for the 'Hawks !!!! Darling is the hot goalie at present and coach Q will stick with him this series ...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 22, 2015, 08:54:31 am
My recording ran out before the end of the game.  Great to find out that they won.  Sorry, JR.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 22, 2015, 09:20:59 am
Made it thru 2 OTs, but had to get to bed. If I stayed up 20 minutes longer.....

Wonder how Q will use his guys on Thursday. Does he go for it and try to finish out the series and play his presumably exhausted veteran stars heavy minutes, or does he try to roll 4 lines and 3 defensive pairings all night to save guys and hope to sneak out with a win, but resign himself to maybe coming back to Chicago for a game 6?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 22, 2015, 09:54:59 am
Incredible triple-OT 3-2 win last night for the 'Hawks !!!! Darling is the hot goalie at present and coach Q will stick with him this series ...

Darling was a beast.  He was like an impregnable fortress out there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 22, 2015, 09:55:45 am
My recording ran out before the end of the game.  Great to find out that they won.  Sorry, JR.

You're not feeling sorrier than I am.  I stayed up until 1:30 watching that.  Definitely hurting today, haha.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 22, 2015, 10:04:32 am
It helps being on the West Coast.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 24, 2015, 04:32:12 am
Hawks blew apart last night.

At least the Bulls won.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 25, 2015, 07:25:07 pm
Not sure who was more responsible for that Bulls loss, Rose or the refs. It's a tossup.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on April 25, 2015, 07:38:40 pm
Rose's refusal to pass the ball there was inexcusable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 25, 2015, 07:47:19 pm
Did you think he was going to pass it? He's considered the savior of the franchise. It'd be nice if he didn't run into a crowd of players after dribbling behind his back though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on April 25, 2015, 09:50:12 pm
As every defender on the floor is moving towards him to smother him out, he's got to get rid of the ball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 25, 2015, 09:51:49 pm
Blackhawks top line with an unbelievable, dominating shift results in the go-ahead goal in a game that started out with Nashville dominating them. Hold on, boys.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on April 25, 2015, 10:48:11 pm
Hawks!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 26, 2015, 12:54:12 am
Blah.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 26, 2015, 01:00:51 am
Sorry JR, thought the Preds outplayed the Hawks over the course of the series. They deserved a better fate.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 26, 2015, 01:04:03 am
Sorry JR, thought the Preds outplayed the Hawks over the course of the series. They deserved a better fate.

Hey thanks!  Actually the Preds were probably a little less than brilliant themselves in the series.  Pekka wasn't really on top of his game.  Weber was out.  After the Preds went up 3-1 tonight, they never really seemed to get any good chances after that.

Maybe the Blackhawks aren't quite playing up to the level where they were a couple of years ago, but they're awfully talented.  Gotta tip your hat to them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 26, 2015, 01:09:24 am
I'm probably not enough of a hockey expert to make any really good observations about the series, but the Preds really seemed to catch a lot of bad breaks in the series, with Shea Weber being hurt, Patrick Kane unexpectedly coming back for the Blackhawks, and up until tonight, Scott Darling coming up so big for them. 

For as well as the Preds played for most of the season, having caught the Blackhawks at a time like this in the first round was pretty unlucky.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 26, 2015, 01:43:05 am
Quote
Maybe the Blackhawks aren't quite playing up to the level where they were a couple of years ago, but they're awfully talented.

Eh, they've looked pedestrian to me for months and for huge chunks of last year too. They were ripe to be picked off and a healthy Weber may have been the difference.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: rjzebra on April 26, 2015, 10:04:16 am
JR...you are not the only one here weak on hockey knowledge!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 26, 2015, 01:08:33 pm
I thought it was a great series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 26, 2015, 01:13:59 pm
Preds were very good.  I don't know that there's a dominant team, so the B'Hawks should have a good chance.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 26, 2015, 07:33:43 pm
Exactly, P2. There are no great teams it seems this year, and the Hawks still have a bunch of elite top-end talent that few, if any, teams can match. That being said, Minnesota also has a ton of elite talent.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 26, 2015, 07:35:23 pm
St. Louis Blues are heading home for the summer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 27, 2015, 09:13:18 am
Blackhawks vs Wild should be a tough series for the 'Hawks...Wild have been coming on strong over the last month+...like the 'Hawks taking the series
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on April 27, 2015, 01:07:27 pm
Hawks in six vs Wild
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 27, 2015, 01:24:33 pm
The series could go either way.  Pretty much a toss up in my book.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on April 27, 2015, 09:28:38 pm
Bulls terrible in every phase.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 27, 2015, 09:40:01 pm
Noah and Rose are killing the Bulls.  Just terrible.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 27, 2015, 09:48:51 pm
I'm fine with the Bulls losing to the Bucks at this point.  The Bulls are just a mediocre team and I'm ready for them to just go away for the season.  No reason to wait to be humiliated by Cleveland.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 28, 2015, 09:47:20 am

http://411mania.com/wrestling/awa-legend-verne-gagne-reportedly-passes-away/ (http://411mania.com/wrestling/awa-legend-verne-gagne-reportedly-passes-away/)
(http://17r1l63fshd52dy9yakdizhkog.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Verne-Gagne.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 28, 2015, 10:14:42 am
He looks like he took some people to the Smackdown Hotel back in the day.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on April 28, 2015, 11:36:36 am
While suffering from dementia, he killed a guy in his nursing home a few years ago, too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 28, 2015, 11:40:33 am
http://pwinsider.com/article/93357/looking-at-the-life-career-of-the-late-verne-gagne.html?p=1
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 28, 2015, 01:43:16 pm
While suffering from dementia, he killed a guy in his nursing home a few years ago, too.

Yikes, I had forgotten about that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on April 28, 2015, 02:44:49 pm
Yeah the jurors said exactly that after the trial.

http://deadspin.com/jurors-say-aaron-hernandezs-defense-was-baffling-1697994540

Actually after reading that article, I kind of borderline wonder if Hernandez's lawyers didn't want to see him get away with it either.  I know that's not what a lawyer professionally should be doing, but still . . .

Attorneys are sometimes reduced to making arguments they never would have made if their clients had been honest with them in the first place.  Clients routinely lie to their attorneys in litigation, and as a result attorneys sometimes end up forced to pull arguments out of their ass without thinking much about how they will be received.  I have no idea whether that happened in the Hernandez case, and have not read the link because I don't care enough about Hernandez to make even that minimal effort.

I once was representing a client in a bench trial in contract case and a central issue was whether the other side (the defendant) had actually signed a receipt reflecting delivery.  My client said he did and produced the signed receipt, which I dutifully copied and introduced into evidence, confronting the other side with it when he took the stand and of course handing a copy of it to the judge for his examination so he could see that the other side was a liar and had acknowledged receipt and signed for it.

As I continued hammering at the other party on the witness stand I noticed Judge Holcomb picking up the document I had just handed him, the receipt, and carefully comparing it to the other document with the defendant's signature on it... and I noticed the judge seemed to be making faces.

I very quickly for the first time closely looked myself at the two documents... the signatures were not even remotely close, though the "receipt" signature did look amazingly similar to my client's handwriting.  (My guy lost, and I felt good he did -- he should have been charged with perjury.)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on April 30, 2015, 07:24:12 pm
I'm fine with the Bulls losing to the Bucks at this point.  The Bulls are just a mediocre team and I'm ready for them to just go away for the season.  No reason to wait to be humiliated by Cleveland.

Looks like the Bulls are going to Cleveland. I'm not sure they're going to be humiliated.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 30, 2015, 07:28:50 pm
Looks like the Bulls are going to Cleveland

Hopefully full squad and healthy. Bucks taking some cheap shots. One player ejected and Mayo has a technical as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on April 30, 2015, 08:39:33 pm
54 point margin has to be close to a record for a deciding playoff game.
But how in the world does Thibs play Butler nearly 32 minutes when they're up 50? Bulls had like 5 guys with fewer than 10 minutes. How do you not empty the bench half way through the 3rd quarter? That's ridiculous (and totally typical of Thibs, I know).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 30, 2015, 08:44:04 pm
Bulls have three days off so I don't really mind the starters playing a bit longer. I know there's the injury possibility, but those can happen at any point of any game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on April 30, 2015, 08:54:42 pm
Now that was the Bulls I  have been waiting for.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 30, 2015, 09:30:29 pm
This next series will be fun.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 02, 2015, 05:50:18 pm
So lets get everyone's predictions.

Im hoping Pacquiao but Im betting Mayweather.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on May 03, 2015, 11:08:26 am
I'll predict Mayweather.

Pacquiao's toast.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 04, 2015, 10:33:15 pm
At least the Bulls and Blackhawks have been winning.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 05, 2015, 04:27:19 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25175238/ex-mlb-reliever-kyle-farnsworth-is-now-a-defensive-lineman-in-florida

Farnsworth playing football now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on May 07, 2015, 11:41:14 pm
The Blackhawks are very good at playing hockey.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 08, 2015, 03:48:38 am
That was a scary last two minutes though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on May 08, 2015, 10:15:59 am
 A nail biter in those last 2 minutes,still I thought Blackhawks would prevail....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on May 08, 2015, 11:24:05 am
We need the Bulls to get off the snide and take care of Cle.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 08, 2015, 11:54:29 am
Going to be tough to win playing 5 on 8 the rest of the series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on May 08, 2015, 12:51:11 pm
I thought the Wild would hold their own coming into this series but the Hawks were just too much for them. Am I correct in saying that both ANA and CAL both dropped two of three from us during the regular season? Lets hope that carries over into the playoffs. Hawks looking goooooooodl
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 08, 2015, 01:45:22 pm
It almost seems unfair that the Hawks were able to pick up Timonen and Vermette and still have Kane come back. I heard last night that Vermette had won 70% of his faceoffs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on May 08, 2015, 03:38:28 pm
Rolling 4 lines this year, with guys like Vermette and Richards at center, is huge. And Turbo Terrapin (aka #86) is showing signs that he is going to be a star.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 08, 2015, 09:45:39 pm
Rose with an unreal 3 to win the game!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 08, 2015, 09:55:08 pm
When he's healthy he's a bad man.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 08, 2015, 09:59:38 pm
He was certainly bad the last 4 minutes; bailed out with that three.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 08, 2015, 10:36:47 pm
Terrible offensive play calls down the stretch.  No ball movement, all isolations.  Thibs just isn't very innovative when it comes to offense.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on May 09, 2015, 02:39:22 pm
He was certainly bad the last 4 minutes; bailed out with that three.

Is this "always find the negative spin" a thing you do on the internet or is this the real you?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 09, 2015, 02:48:11 pm
Bulls' performance down the stretch can be justifiably criticized.  Too much emphasis on isolation plays offensively, and a questionable decision not to foul with a 3-point lead, allowing JR Smith to get off his tying 3 pointer.  Thibs deserves most of the criticism rather than Rose.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: shasson on May 09, 2015, 06:17:08 pm
Pointing out issues with the Bulls performance down the stretch is one thing, Chris's obsession with pointing out flaws/failures/foibles in a player's performance is another. Let's hope, Cletus, it's just a web-posting persona. Can you imagine actually being like that in real life?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 10, 2015, 04:45:55 pm
Bulls have pissed this one away it seems.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 10, 2015, 04:51:14 pm
Be happy they won two games, I didn't think they'd manage that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 10, 2015, 05:06:08 pm
May not be over yet.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 10, 2015, 05:07:37 pm
Nevermind.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 10, 2015, 05:08:18 pm
Series is done.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 10, 2015, 05:11:03 pm
They're basically playing without Love and Irving.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 10, 2015, 05:17:36 pm
Too bad the Bulls choked away 2 long stretches in this game or it would have been a run away.  Shocking to see Lebron hit a clutch jumper to win it.  Got to give him credit. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 10, 2015, 05:35:12 pm
Thibs insists on getting Noah heavily involved in the offense even late in the shot clock.  The result almost every time is a turnover or missed layup by Noah.  Simply awful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 10, 2015, 05:37:56 pm
At least the Bulls have beaten LeBron twice this series.  That's a new record.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 10, 2015, 05:47:13 pm
Dunleavy and Mirotic were 2-16. Why are you blaming the coach?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 10, 2015, 06:00:09 pm
Because he deserves a good share of the blame.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 10, 2015, 06:07:18 pm
Not to me he doesn't. The team is just mediocre.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 10, 2015, 07:35:58 pm
I have no problem at all with Thibodeau.

If the Bulls fire him he wont be unemployed 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 12, 2015, 08:37:45 pm
The Bulls find a way to lose another close game. Might've won had Rose not missed 15 of his last 16 shots.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 12, 2015, 10:24:39 pm
Interesting stat on the Bulls post-game on CSN:

In the playoffs, LeBron James' team is 28-3 with Joey Crawford on the officiating crew.



Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 12, 2015, 11:26:32 pm
Interesting stat on the Bulls post-game on CSN:

In the playoffs, LeBron James' team is 28-3 with Joey Crawford on the officiating crew.

That's pretty amazing. 

I wonder what his record is otherwise.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 12, 2015, 11:27:21 pm
By the way, Joey Crawford officiating big games in the playoffs seems like the basketball equivalent to Joe West, Angel Hernandez, Sam Holbrook, or C.B. Bucknor officiating big games in the baseball post-season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 12, 2015, 11:30:18 pm
I heard other teams are a combined 3-28 when Crawford and LeBron are on the same floor.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 14, 2015, 09:54:06 pm
I'm actually glad the Bulls are done.  What a miserable team to watch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 14, 2015, 09:59:46 pm
I agree, Robb.  Of course, I still have the Warriors to root for.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 14, 2015, 10:27:45 pm
How does that saying go?

If you have two favorite teams you really dont even have one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 14, 2015, 10:44:37 pm
Anybody but Lebron is my favorite team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 14, 2015, 10:47:57 pm
Stephen A. Smith says Tom Thibodeau will be fired in a matter of days.

Stupid.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on May 15, 2015, 01:04:08 pm
Stephen A. Smith says Tom Thibodeau will be fired in a matter of days.

Stupid.
EPIC STUPID
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 15, 2015, 01:08:06 pm
The right move for all concerned.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 15, 2015, 02:36:07 pm
He can't leave fast enough.  You can't coach one side of the ball and win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 15, 2015, 03:13:22 pm
This Bulls team wasn't good on either side of the ball and it was, in my estimation, more of a personnel situation. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on May 15, 2015, 03:21:37 pm
Don't worry Alvin Gentry and his 335-370 record will fix what is wrong with the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 15, 2015, 03:30:59 pm
I'm guessing an even more cheap fix like Adrian Griffin.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 15, 2015, 04:11:30 pm
The word is it's gonna be Gentry.

I was expecting Hoiberg.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 15, 2015, 04:12:25 pm
I thought Hoiberg was the consensus.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on May 15, 2015, 04:23:59 pm
Hoiberg has his aortic valve replaced and the rumor is he doesn't want to jump to the NBA following the surgery.  I'm not sure why college basketball is that much easier for him.  The last time the Bulls hired an Iowa State coach is worked out well, too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 15, 2015, 05:48:06 pm
Tim Floyd?

That wasnt a good hire Hoss.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on May 15, 2015, 06:16:29 pm
Purple impaired.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 15, 2015, 10:36:29 pm
The NBA is as crooked as boxing. That end of the 3rd quarter proved it beyond doubt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 15, 2015, 10:46:59 pm
One thing I never understood about boxing: why is the score kept secret until the end?  Can you imagine basketball, baseball, hockey, football, soccer...you weren't allowed to post scores?  If a boxer knew he was 2 points down, wouldn't that alter his strategy and make the fight better? 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 15, 2015, 11:07:00 pm
I didn't see anything wrong. Looked like a clean steal to me unless you think there should've been a jump ball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on May 15, 2015, 11:09:25 pm
One thing I never understood about boxing: why is the score kept secret until the end?  Can you imagine basketball, baseball, hockey, football, soccer...you weren't allowed to post scores?  If a boxer knew he was 2 points down, wouldn't that alter his strategy and make the fight better? 

Sure, but then there would be no tension in the arena after the fight when there's a hundred people in the ring waiting for Michael Buffer to announce the decision.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 15, 2015, 11:51:36 pm
Terrible the way the refs kept calling everything in favor of the Warriors.  Clearly the better team was robbed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 16, 2015, 02:30:53 pm
Green was clearly fouled at the end of the 3rd.

That was a potential 6 point swing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 16, 2015, 02:33:37 pm
That said, not having Tony Allen made it much easier for GS...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 16, 2015, 04:03:40 pm
Still looks like 100% ball to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9necA_prVM
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 16, 2015, 05:21:11 pm
I could go to my DVR, find the play, pause it to clearly show the foul, take a picture, and post it here...but frankly, I don't care enough to expound the energy to do so...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 16, 2015, 05:24:26 pm
You can pause it at 36 seconds too. I see a tie up at worst. If you get the ball first you can make some body contact.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 16, 2015, 05:28:38 pm
American Pharoah looked strong.

Hope he can finish it off at the Belmont.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 20, 2015, 01:12:28 am

Hawks Win!   Hawks Win!


Marcus Kruger with the game winning goal at 16:12 in the third overtime.  Longest game in Blackhawks history!


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 20, 2015, 01:31:02 am
Wow. Anaheim looks really good.  I like the way they play.  Hawks need Kane and Toewes to make some noise.

Great win and Crawford looked great.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 20, 2015, 08:59:29 am
Great win last nigh  It'll be a long series.  And the team that comes out of the East is going to be tough to beat.  I'm particularly impressed with Tampa Bay.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Pistol on May 21, 2015, 09:47:58 pm
If I was the Ducks coach I would play hack a shaq and keep the Hawks on the power play.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 21, 2015, 10:02:36 pm
The Hawks, much like the Bulls, just aren't very good. If not for numerous posts hit in game two, it'd be 3-0.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 22, 2015, 01:02:33 am

The University of Illinois baseball team's 27-game winning streak is over as Maryland beats them 2-1 at the Big 10 Baseball Tournament at Target Field.  The Illini now drop into the loser's bracket where they'll need to beat Michigan State Friday night to stay alive in the tourney.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 22, 2015, 06:45:22 am
Chris, your baseball expertise is only exceeded by your hockey acumen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 22, 2015, 07:02:30 am
I know.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 22, 2015, 08:39:02 am
Yes the Ducks are clearly the better team.  They really play like I'd want my favorite team to play.  They are physical but a great passing team.  And the put 1-2 guys in front of the net.  They will be very hard to beat.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 22, 2015, 01:14:43 pm
LOL, one of my son's best friends may crack SC Top 10 tonight...watch this crazy play from today's AAC baseball tournament action...

https://twitter.com/american_conf/status/601795926257115136
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 22, 2015, 01:15:44 pm
http://t.co/u4XoT0ELMt
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on May 23, 2015, 06:02:42 pm
Awesome, Dave! And it wasn't against the Cubs!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 23, 2015, 08:24:05 pm
Ha!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on May 23, 2015, 09:57:09 pm
That was great. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on May 23, 2015, 10:02:53 pm
Hawks gave up 3 goals in less than a minute.   Heading to OT
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 23, 2015, 11:37:09 pm
Hawks get fortunate again after blowing a 3-1 third-period lead and getting dominated in OT. Now have to win in Anaheim again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 24, 2015, 01:22:40 am
A mediocre hockey team like the B'Hawks have no chance to win this series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 24, 2015, 02:12:01 am
They beat Nashville despite being outplayed, could happen here too. Wouldn't put money on it though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on May 24, 2015, 08:09:06 pm
They beat Nashville despite being outplayed, could happen here too. Wouldn't put money on it though.
oh ye of little faith... ;)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 25, 2015, 10:42:26 pm
Blackhawks crap the bed the first 12 minutes, yet again give up 2 goals in a half minute, and never recover.

Now have to win the last two.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 25, 2015, 10:48:31 pm
Ha! Now they tie it with two late goals.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 25, 2015, 10:48:34 pm
Blackhawks crap the bed the first 12 minutes, yet again give up 2 goals in a half minute, and never recover.

Now have to win the last two.

O' Ye of little faith.   

Game now tied as Captain Serious scores twice with Crawford on the bench.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 25, 2015, 10:51:40 pm
They haven't shown much reason to have faith quite frankly. They have controlled the game since being down 3-0 but that last goal is a bad one on Anderson.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on May 25, 2015, 10:52:34 pm
I wish I understood more about hockey.  Jonathan Toews seems to be pretty good at it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 25, 2015, 11:03:42 pm
I wish I understood more about hockey.  Jonathan Toews seems to be pretty good at it.
All North Dakota kids are pretty good at it, after all there's nothing else to do.  Oh.  Wait.  You're talking about hockey.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 25, 2015, 11:05:28 pm
Chris27--

now you can post how they need to win the next two games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 25, 2015, 11:06:01 pm
Yep, nothing changed in the end.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 25, 2015, 11:11:11 pm
Bad day for Chicago sports. 

Cubs lose, White Sox shut out, Bears forced to cut a player & will get all kinds of bad publicity for signing him in the first place and now the 'Hawks lose in OT.   The Bulls still have 38 minutes to fired Thibs to complete this bad day in Chicago sports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 25, 2015, 11:17:16 pm
Well, the Bears made their own bed and so have the Bulls really. The Hawks just aren't all that good anymore and they'll look very different next year since Bowman completely overestimated a rise in the cap.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 25, 2015, 11:30:46 pm
The Warriors cost me a fortune tonight.  I have tickets for game 5.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 25, 2015, 11:34:42 pm
At least they're going to win and will be favorites to win the title.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 25, 2015, 11:38:57 pm
If I witness them winning the game to clinch going to the finals for the first time in 40 years, it will be worth it.  Even for a Bulls fan like me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 25, 2015, 11:40:08 pm
They're fun to watch. Hope they take the whining king to the woodshed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 28, 2015, 11:32:30 am
Thibodeau fired per ESPN.

Stupid.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 28, 2015, 11:57:14 am
Warriors!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 28, 2015, 11:57:35 am
And how 'bout the fight in those B'Hawks.  Awesome.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 28, 2015, 12:06:25 pm
Yeah the Hawks definitely looked like the better team most of that game except for about 8 minutes in the 3rd.  And that second goal by the Ducks should have been disallowed.  Terrible.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 28, 2015, 12:27:58 pm
I don't expect to hear anything from Chris unless the B'Hawks lose game 7.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 28, 2015, 12:31:46 pm
Didn't know I was obligated to post or that you were so keen on hearing from me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 28, 2015, 01:07:12 pm
Warriors/Grizz was the NBA Championship...congrats to the Warriors...now end already!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 28, 2015, 02:09:07 pm

Chicago Bulls press release on the dismissal of Thibs:

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/tomthibodeau528 (http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/tomthibodeau528)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 28, 2015, 02:31:21 pm
Your Bulls front office:

https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/status/603974961926119424

https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/603976181222744065
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on May 28, 2015, 03:13:12 pm
?? What did JVG say?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on May 28, 2015, 03:23:49 pm
tico:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/john-paxson-calls-jeff-van-gundy-s-criticism-of-the-chicago-bulls--pretty-pathetic-232252305.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on May 28, 2015, 05:38:54 pm
Blackhawks were the better team last night...Blackhawks need to repeat the performance Saturday evening...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on May 28, 2015, 06:03:05 pm
Well, I certainly hope that the commentary of some tv personality isn't taken so personally by the Bulls front office that it would affect their opinion of Thibs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 29, 2015, 03:35:36 am
You must not be familiar with the pettiness of the Bulls' FO, tico.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-bulls-management-could-never-accept-tom-thibodeau-s-success-053816326.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 29, 2015, 08:18:47 am
A theory that Thibs became too popular and management was jealous:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-bulls-management-could-never-accept-tom-thibodeau-s-success-053816326.html

My theory is that the management came to the conclusion that Thibs' coaching approach (combined with roster limitations) was not going to result in a team that seriously contends for a title.  Combining that with their unhappiness with Thibs' interactions with them (or lack thereof) and the availability of a coach that they seem to think has a philosophy that could get them over the hump, they decided to dump Thibs.

I don't consider any of this a failure of Thibs with respect to his job.  He got a lot out of the players he was given.  Management is responsible for assembling the roster and choosing the coach, and they have not succeeded to the level that Bulls' fans demand.  But they have succeeded in fielding very good teams, and Reinsdorf was not going to jettison them.  That basically left dumping Thibs and bringing on Hoiberg as the most sensible approach.  Thibs will catch on elsewhere and continue his successful coaching career.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on May 29, 2015, 08:24:32 am
Sounds like he really got a rough deal, but the media is also fawning over their new martyr - it's an easy story to sell. I think there could have been legitimate concerns with Thibs' coaching style, and it wouldn't be unreasonable to ask if Rose's career might have looked a little different if his coach weren't such an absolute grinder.

Thibs absolutely deserved better on the way out. Bulls should have thanked him and praised him and said they were looking for a different style and angle that was more coherent with front office vision. To drag him through the streets is unfair and seems very petty. But I'm sure Thibs has done his fair share of provoking the divide in this relationship, and I find it difficult to buy the simplistic and reductionary crucified messiah narrative the media is pumping up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on May 29, 2015, 08:26:11 am
Or what P2 said.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 29, 2015, 11:30:41 am
Similar to Lovie Smith's dismissal from the Bears it appears
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 29, 2015, 12:43:57 pm
Reinsdorf ran Phil Jackson out of town and publicly bashed Horace Grant after letting him go, Paxson punched Vinny Del Negro, Paxson and Foreman dumped assistant Ron Adams for no reason other than he was Thibs' guy. Whatever one thinks of Thibodeau as coach or his part in the relationship issues with the FO, the people running the Bulls are still first-rate jerks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 29, 2015, 03:28:33 pm
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/28/tom-thibodeau-fired-bulls-fred-hoiberg-jerry-reinsdorf-gar-forman
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 29, 2015, 04:51:30 pm
Bulls have turned into a first class trash franchise
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 30, 2015, 07:32:54 pm
Blackhawks score first.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on May 30, 2015, 08:00:58 pm
And second.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 30, 2015, 08:02:21 pm
And they got out of the 1st without giving any back which, if you know them, is near miraculous.

Very solid 1st period and Anderson looked shaky.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on May 30, 2015, 08:18:03 pm
And third.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on May 30, 2015, 08:41:55 pm
And fourth.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 30, 2015, 08:44:09 pm
Cashing in on just about every chance tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on May 30, 2015, 08:57:12 pm
Not fifth, though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 30, 2015, 10:20:33 pm
Great win.  Tampa Bay will be a challenge- they are good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on May 30, 2015, 10:49:39 pm
Hawks!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on May 30, 2015, 11:08:54 pm
They proved me wrong. Didn't think they'd win tonight. Still scarred from the game 7 against LA. But the best road game they've played this playoffs, and the stars came through.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 30, 2015, 11:34:24 pm
Congrats to the Hawks.  It still stings like hell losing to them in the first round, but I've been pulling for them ever since then.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 31, 2015, 12:30:01 am
JR- We're gonna be in Nashville Saturday night and leave Sunday morning.

Got any ideas for somewhere good to eat?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 31, 2015, 12:53:01 am
You mean next Saturday or Sunday?  Actually I have plenty of ideas on food . . . what are you looking for? 

By the way, if you felt like catching up for a drink, let me know.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 31, 2015, 01:50:16 am
JR- We're gonna be in Nashville Saturday night and leave Sunday morning.

Got any ideas for somewhere good to eat?


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEQvaTnWYAE4EOo.jpg)


Try 312 Pizza Company which is right down the street from the new Nashville Sounds ballpark.  The owners are Chicago natives and it's the official home of the Chicago Blackhawks Nashville Chapter so they'll have game 2 of the Stanley Cup Final on their big screens if you're there on Saturday night.   It was voted one of the Top 5 “Must Try” Pizza Places in Nashville by Nashville Lifestyles Magazine and specializing in authentic Chicago cuisine including deep dish pizza, thin crust pizza, Italian beefs and hot dogs. 

http://312pizzaco.com/ (http://312pizzaco.com/)

I also hear JR really was impressed by "The Bartman" cocktail on their drink menu.
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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 31, 2015, 07:09:29 am
JR, Dusty would probably enjoy either one of the two places across the street from where we met up a couple months ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 31, 2015, 07:32:42 am
JR- We'll be there this coming up Saturday night and I'd definitely be interested in catching up a little if you are.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 31, 2015, 07:52:46 am
I have a wife who says I'm a homebody so she planned this whole family weekend thing.

Just doing my husbandly duties.

Me, my wife, and my son are going.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 31, 2015, 10:38:07 am
I think the wife and I are going to be in Nashville at the end of June and then off to Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg for the first week of July.

I think. Maybe not.

I'd rather go back to Clearwater, Florida and swim in the Gulf.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 31, 2015, 11:24:36 am
I live in Pigeon Forge JBN.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 31, 2015, 11:39:05 am
Smoky mountains are very nice - whitewater rafting on the Big Pigeon is quite an adventure
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 31, 2015, 11:55:30 am
I moved here when I got married.

She's from the Phillipines but she was adopted when she was 2 and has lived here her whole life.

Other than her looks there's nothing Philipino about her.

This place is commonly referred to as Las Vegas for kids and that's about right.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on May 31, 2015, 12:03:24 pm
Not really into the mountains. I like the beach and water myself.

I hated it in Arizona two years when we went. Mountains were just big ugly rocks with trees.

Maybe the Smoky Mountains are better.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 31, 2015, 12:33:26 pm
We had a secluded cabin in the smokies - hot tub on the deck - hot tub in the bedroom - lots of wineries nearby
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on May 31, 2015, 06:27:16 pm
That's my kind of roughing it...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 31, 2015, 06:49:20 pm
I'm afraid they aren't so secluded anymore - because everyone wanted a piece of that action
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 31, 2015, 07:07:54 pm
There are still tons of secluded ones.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 31, 2015, 07:09:15 pm
That is good to know
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 31, 2015, 07:11:38 pm
We've camped in upstate NY, Delaware and AZ - seemed like the landowners were maximizing profits at the expense of secluded campsites
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on May 31, 2015, 07:21:26 pm
I think the wife and I are going to be in Nashville at the end of June and then off to Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg for the first week of July.

I think. Maybe not.

I'd rather go back to Clearwater, Florida and swim in the Gulf.


Come on down JB... the new beer fridge will be installed shortly!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 31, 2015, 07:27:23 pm
I peed in the gulf on occasion - so there's that...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 01, 2015, 12:31:51 pm
Entertaining perspective on the Stanley Cup finals:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-huppke-blackhawks-florida-20150601-story.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on June 01, 2015, 01:22:23 pm
Hawks in five
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 01, 2015, 01:30:50 pm
I hope you're right, but I doubt it.  Tampa Bay is very good.  It's likely to be a long series.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on June 01, 2015, 01:59:34 pm
hawks are riding high now....momentum peaking at a great time
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 01, 2015, 04:15:52 pm
That momentum is going to be jolted to reality when they face the bolts...

Remember how hungry the Hawks were a few years ago... that's the bolts now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 01, 2015, 04:16:19 pm
The Bulls' comprehensive coaching search:

http://www.blogabull.com/2015/6/1/8700187/infographic-of-gar-paxdorfs-nationwide-search-for-a-head-coach
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 01, 2015, 06:59:15 pm
method, you go to Clearwater much?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 01, 2015, 08:00:54 pm
Until about a month ago I worked there... for beaches we go to treasure island... fewer tourists and no laws against open containers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 01, 2015, 08:01:28 pm
In laws live in Belleair area do we are down there quite a bit
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 01, 2015, 10:07:03 pm
I like Clearwater the best. Love the area. Especially by the Palm Pavilion.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 02, 2015, 07:28:46 pm
Let me know when you are in town next. Will meet you a beer... I now work down the road from cigar city brewing... worth the visit if you are in town.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 03, 2015, 09:53:03 pm
Chicago wins 2-1.

3 more to go.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on June 03, 2015, 09:56:10 pm
Hawks are an incredible team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 03, 2015, 10:02:07 pm
Too bad the Cubs, Bears and Bulls can't follow.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 03, 2015, 10:42:46 pm
I don't think they've played very well often in the playoffs--including tonight--but they're finding ways to win somehow. If they pick their level up they'll beat Tampa.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 03, 2015, 11:06:12 pm
(http://www.csnchicago.com/sites/csnchicago/files/styles/scale_282px_wide/public/hawk-harrelson-0524.png?itok=2MBGXlte)

If Hawk Harrelson was designing the next Blackhawks T-shirt:




(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/create-a-forum/Other/BH-PB-TWTW-trans_zpsgkkcr8bp.png)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 04, 2015, 06:59:20 am
I only was able to watch the third period.  Great win.  Clearly the Hawks can raise the level of their game when they need to.  But I'm still wary of Tampa Bay.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 04, 2015, 08:23:05 am
Crawford was on fire last night...his block of the Callahan shot was fantastic...TB played a helluva game for 55 minutes ,but the Hawks needed 1minute 38 seconds to take the lead and snatch a victory from the jaws of defeat...Go 'Hawks!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 07, 2015, 10:37:06 pm
Hard to believe Golden State is having so much trouble with that Cleveland roster.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 08, 2015, 10:04:05 pm
Tampa is much better
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 08, 2015, 10:05:39 pm
Hawks have held the lead for 6 minutes in three games, Tampa for almost an hour and a half.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 08, 2015, 10:10:24 pm
I think this series is toast now.

But can't complain too much. Not many other Chicago teams have done what the Hawks have the past six seasons. I also have no problem with Tampa since I'm trying to convince the wife to moving to the area. :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 08, 2015, 10:24:36 pm
They could still win but they haven't given much reason for hope. Can't get a lead and the ones they do are gone in a flash. Bishop looks injured but the Hawks still can't score.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 08, 2015, 10:42:40 pm
Tampa Bay is very good.  So are the B'Hawks.  I see this one going 7 games and being a toss up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 09, 2015, 09:01:36 pm
When does Golden State show up and beat this bunch of nobodies?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 09, 2015, 10:36:30 pm
Did Deledova sell his soul to the devil?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 09, 2015, 10:44:09 pm
He's trying to sell himself as the plucky, overachieving white guy so the Bulls' FO will have a replacement for Hinrich.

On a related note, the Bulls gave Cleveland a tougher series than this.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 10, 2015, 09:24:46 am
Warriors wont stay this cold.

if lebron has a hot shooting game next game though it might be lights out for Warriors.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 10, 2015, 09:32:07 am
The Warriors must find a way to adjust.  Perhaps more emphasis on setting solid screens so that there shooters get comfortable looks.  Perhaps more time for Lee and Speights to spread the scoring threats.  It will be interesting to see how Kerr adjusts.  He has seen it all, and has the talent to come out on top.  But it's going to be a dogfight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 11, 2015, 08:07:31 am
Ugly win for the 'Hawks last night to even the series and back to TB . Pretty maddening to see this team play well only to lose and deliver two victories off of less than stellar play.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 11, 2015, 09:16:39 am
They're quite fortunate to be even in this series.  It'll be a struggle right to the end.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on June 11, 2015, 01:06:48 pm
I dont care how they played or how they looked...they WON and thats what matters....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 11, 2015, 01:58:49 pm
The American Dream, The Son Of A Plumber, One of the 5 best wrestlers that ever lived Dusty Rhodes died today at 69.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on June 11, 2015, 02:43:08 pm
The American Dream, The Son Of A Plumber, One of the 5 best wrestlers that ever lived Dusty Rhodes died today at 69.

The last bit is certainly debatable but the man sure could cut a hell of a promo.  Rest  in peace, Virgil.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 11, 2015, 03:19:30 pm
DUSTY --

If you're making another visit to Chicago this year, here's a place you might like.  The Squared Circle - a restaurant owned by former WWE wrestler Victoria (Lisa Marie Varon) and her husband. Wrestling & MMA videos on the big screens. It's located about two miles SSW of Wrigley Field:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeTrVuCHomQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeTrVuCHomQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyqCvjPpuao (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyqCvjPpuao)

http://thesquaredcircle.biz/ (http://thesquaredcircle.biz/)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 11, 2015, 11:26:25 pm
Real nice adjustment by Kerr to go small, starting Iggy and Lee with Bogut on the bench.  Huge game for Iggy.  If the Warriors can keep the pace up in the remaining games, they should be OK.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 13, 2015, 09:33:02 pm
I don't watch a ton of hockey so a question. When the Hawks get the lead they seem to me a little more passive sometimes. Is that just how hockey can flow where one team gets the puck on their end for a while or is it more of a prevent defense or just a function of the line on ice?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 13, 2015, 09:48:07 pm
It's been that way nearly the entire playoffs. They haven't had an easy win in about 40 playoff games.

This series has never been separated by more than a goal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 13, 2015, 11:32:31 pm
Hawks just need to eke out one more.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 15, 2015, 09:07:20 pm
No idea how they've gotten this far, but the Blackhawks need one more good period. A 2-goal lead would be nice too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 15, 2015, 09:55:55 pm
Well, there you go...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 15, 2015, 09:59:37 pm
Well, champions again

Pay attention Cubs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 15, 2015, 10:43:15 pm

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/BHawks/2015SCC_zpswzot9vrg.png)


(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/BHawks/X_zps1ofszrmw.gif)
#TWTW


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 15, 2015, 10:58:40 pm
Well done, B'Hawks!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 16, 2015, 09:00:42 am
Awesome finish for the 'Hawks. Duncan Keith gets the  Conn Smythe Trophy as MVP of the series was really special.Corey Crawford played huge in this series...so glad for my hometown team!!! Now let's go Cubs!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on June 16, 2015, 09:16:27 am
Tremendous character on that team!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 16, 2015, 09:37:01 am
Good win for the Hawks. that game one loss was too costly for the Bolts.

atleast the future is bright in Tampa.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 16, 2015, 10:47:15 am
Tampa Bay is very good- the series could certainly have gone either way.  Experience helps a lot, and the Lightening will be more experience in next year's playoffs.  The Hawks will have a tough time dealing with the salary cap, although the emergence of Teravainen is very helpful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 16, 2015, 10:56:25 am
JB, perhaps this can help you convince the wife to move down to Tampa...

http://www.portillos.com/announcing-tampa/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on June 16, 2015, 01:09:38 pm
salary cap will be somewhat of a challenge again this offseason for the Hawks....look for bickell and or Versteeg to be in different uniforms next season...and yes, Saad is going to get paid and the hawks will see he remains in CHI
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 16, 2015, 02:24:51 pm
Agree on Saad being signed to a lucrative contract. Saad is a core player for the Hawks going forward.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 16, 2015, 06:31:21 pm
Good win for the Hawks. that game one loss was too costly for the Bolts.

atleast the future is bright in Tampa.


You would think so but nothing is guaranteed.  Just look at last year's Stanley Cup champs (LA Kings) as they didn't even make the playoffs this year. A couple of key injuries and some sub-season performances from a few key guys can close the window really quick.

Nevertheless, it's hard to dislike the Lightning with the notable exceptions of their arrogant condescending prick of a head coach and cheap shot slewfooting Nikita Kucherov. 

Kind of surprising how little flack Steven Stamkos is getting from the national press (especially in Canada) for his disappearance the the Final.  If it was Alexander Ovechkin of the Capitals 'shitting the bed' in the Final, he'd be crucified.

for method:   ;D




(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/BHawks/Stamkosmilk_zpsqofb3x76.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 16, 2015, 07:57:56 pm
method, the ocean and seafood is good enough for me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 16, 2015, 07:59:22 pm
Bonefish Grill is the best.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 16, 2015, 08:25:05 pm
JBN - agree on bone fish... i worked for OSI for many years and that was by far their best restaurant. (Carrabbas used to be good once upon a time).



Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on June 16, 2015, 08:33:51 pm
Bang Bang all the way.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 16, 2015, 08:48:59 pm
Bonefish is good and all, but if I lived down there, I would never eat seafood in a restaurant. Buy it fresh and cook it yourself...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 16, 2015, 09:32:26 pm
Bonefish is good and all, but if I lived down there, I would never eat seafood in a restaurant. Buy it fresh and cook it yourself...

I recieved a 75% discounts at the restaurants for being a corporate office employee...

It was cheaper to eat out everyday then to go to the grocery store... made dating a lot more cost effective as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on June 16, 2015, 09:42:36 pm
In your case, yeah...I can see that...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 16, 2015, 11:01:03 pm
Good job by the Warriors finally finishing off Cleveland.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 16, 2015, 11:07:45 pm
I dont give a damn about the Warriors but it's good to see Lebron lose.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 16, 2015, 11:40:51 pm
Not 1 finals loss, not 2, not 3.....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 16, 2015, 11:43:51 pm
B'Hawks and Warriors, championships won on consecutive days.  Wow!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 16, 2015, 11:56:05 pm
Maybe the Cubs will win the wildcard championship for you in the fall.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 17, 2015, 07:52:54 am
The correlation between strong management and championships is certainly noteworthy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 17, 2015, 09:06:51 am
It still has always amazed me how often winning by one franchise in a city is followed by others.  Doesn't always happen, of course, but it's interesting.  Maybe it's more financial commitment with the competitors for the entertainment dollar, a different fan and media attitude, or just a sharing of TWTW.  Not sure.  Giants and Warriors.  49ers stunk but have been good for several years.  Patriots and Red Sox rejuvenated about the same time.  Over the years it happens too often to just be coincidence.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 17, 2015, 09:59:59 am
So the White Sox are going to win the World Series, great.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 17, 2015, 10:49:17 am
They just did a short decade ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 17, 2015, 11:05:24 am
I don't want this to come off in a mean spirited way, but I'm afraid I'm not going to phrase it well.  What do you think of the current White Sox team and what they should do?  Everything is kinda bad luck and regroup next year?  Sell off some pieces and rebuild around Sale/Rodon/Abreu?  Blow it up? 

To me it seems like they have 3 really good pieces in Sale/Rodon/Abreu.  Some ok guys in Samardzija/Quintana.  Some guys that are really under performing and some really large holes with little coming up on farm that is close that will fill those holes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 17, 2015, 11:24:00 am
Quote
I don't want this to come off in a mean spirited way, but I'm afraid I'm not going to phrase it well.

I'll help you out then. 

So how do you go about fixing that steaming pile of excrement, complete train wreck of a team that the White Sox have become?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 17, 2015, 11:47:55 am
They are -3 fWAR for position players as a team.  Jeff Samardzija with 2 PA has the 4th most batting/fielding at 0.1.  It isn't far off, but I was trying to be nice.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 17, 2015, 11:50:43 am
JR sugarcoats everything.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 17, 2015, 12:55:00 pm
They are -3 fWAR for position players as a team.  Jeff Samardzija with 2 PA has the 4th most batting/fielding at 0.1.  It isn't far off, but I was trying to be nice.

Yeah but I was a lot more succinct.  :)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 17, 2015, 01:14:12 pm
I would fire Kenny Williams.

Then i'd call him up and fire him again even though he was no longer with the team. just to make sure.

I dont think the sox should have gone "all-in" last year. I think they should have waited and rebuilt.

They wont be successful in the new wild card era as long as they keep short changing the draft every single year. One good prospect and mailing in the rest of the draft doesnt work.

So imo, i'd blow it up, entirely. I'd trade everything on the roster starting with Chris Sale and Abreau and i'd target major league ready or high upside young bats only. Sox can develop pitching just fine.

Sale would bring back a small fortune considering his contract and talent level. He's the type of player that you can ask for Betts and Xander and not get laughed at.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 17, 2015, 01:28:33 pm
Thanks.

I don't even want to think what the Cubs would have to give up for Sale.  He has tremendous value.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 17, 2015, 07:17:27 pm

Time for the press & fans to get off of Jay Cutler's back as he led the Chicago Bears to their 2015 win of the Stanley Cup. So says the Korean  Times:


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHtfHUvWUAEgrI1.jpg)



http://wgntv.com/2015/06/17/chicago-bears-win-stanley-cup-korean-newspaper-reports/ (http://wgntv.com/2015/06/17/chicago-bears-win-stanley-cup-korean-newspaper-reports/)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 17, 2015, 07:59:55 pm
I'd say most Americans wouldnt know the difference either.

It is hockey you know.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 18, 2015, 02:00:09 pm
Chambers Bay may turn out to be a good choice when it comes to determining a U.S. Open champion but it has virtually no appeal to fans watching on television.  With only a couple exceptions the holes all look alike.  The lack of trees doesn't help.  The greens look smooth but have a distinct speckled look to them making it hard to see where a ball is when a live shot shows it landing.

The Fox coverage appears to be adequate.  Greg Norman has made a few astute comments but they don't go to him often enough.  Dallas Cowboys and St. Louis Cardinals fan Joe Buck is out of his element.  Corey Pavin and Brad Faxon may become good analysts in a few years.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on June 18, 2015, 03:02:10 pm
The Fox coverage appears to be adequate.  Greg Norman has made a few astute comments but they don't go to him often enough.  Dallas Cowboys and St. Louis Cardinals fan Joe Buck is out of his element.  Corey Pavin and Brad Faxon may become good analysts in a few years.

As a Cowboys fan, I'm insulted that you would lump me in with Joe Buck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 18, 2015, 05:58:30 pm
The Bulls tried to get this clown.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3896/lebrons-handling-of-blatt-unbecoming
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 21, 2015, 10:13:23 pm
Jordan Spieth is a pretty good golfer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 21, 2015, 10:26:42 pm
That course was the worst I've ever seen.  I saw one putt on one of the greens that rolled 15 feet, popped 3 inches in the air and took a left turn, ending up 10 ft from the hole.  There are some historic courses mid-Nebraska with sand greens in better shape than that course and those greens.  Do the people around there actually play that course?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on June 22, 2015, 08:51:05 am
Yes, people play it. It's a fantastic course.  Very hard walk, though.  Seems like every hole starts from the top of the ridge and plays back down to the middle which means a lot of walks up to the top to get to the tees.  Kind of a weird routing but it works.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 22, 2015, 09:35:48 am
That course was the worst I've ever seen.  I saw one putt on one of the greens that rolled 15 feet, popped 3 inches in the air and took a left turn, ending up 10 ft from the hole.  There are some historic courses mid-Nebraska with sand greens in better shape than that course and those greens.  Do the people around there actually play that course?

This is a picture Ian Poulter posted to Instagram of one of the greens.  This literally looks like one of the greens at the local $6 municipal Par 3 course near my place.

https://instagram.com/p/4Nmq2zpg2V/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 22, 2015, 09:44:26 am
My biggest complaint with Chambers Bay was that the penalty for a shot only a few yards off line was way too severe.  Rolling off the green, fine.  But not 50 yards down a hill into long rough.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 22, 2015, 09:56:19 am
Often repeated USGA U.S. Open saying:  "We're not trying to punish the best players in the world, We're trying to identify them."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 25, 2015, 06:35:34 am
No comments about Vandy losing in the CWS final?

Gotta love that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on June 25, 2015, 09:07:41 pm
Bulls select:

http://www.nba.com/draft/2015/prospects/bobby_portis?ls=iref:nba:draft:tracker
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 26, 2015, 12:29:34 pm
Portis' old tweets about the Bulls are a riot:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-bobby-portis-apologizes-anti-bulls-tweets-20150626-htmlstory.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on June 27, 2015, 03:34:27 pm
Hilarious
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 27, 2015, 03:40:07 pm
I often wonder if Facebook and Twitter were around when I was in college if I would have been let into medical school.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 30, 2015, 06:33:13 pm
After promising that he would re-sign Brandon Saad, Stan Bowman has just traded him to Columbus. I hope everyone enjoyed the last Cup because that is what it is going to be.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 30, 2015, 07:16:39 pm
Saad was looking for 6 years, $6.5 AAV.  It sounds like the Blackhawks had to choose between him and TT.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 30, 2015, 07:20:10 pm
And that's about the equivelent of two rec softball teams trading 2nd basemen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 30, 2015, 07:28:49 pm
Teraveinen makes nothing. Not sure what he has to do with it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 30, 2015, 07:51:26 pm
If you sign Saad for 6 years, TT would be a free agent sometime in there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 30, 2015, 08:08:36 pm
TT wouldn't be unrestricted for 8 years, and we don't even know if he's going to produce.

The league really has problems if a 22-yo who is five years from UFA can demand those figures and force his way out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 30, 2015, 08:13:49 pm
Rumor is he had an offer sheet coming tomorrow for that amount.  It was either trade him, take a 1st,2nd and 3rd or make the cap unworkable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 30, 2015, 08:15:15 pm
I heard that. Teams are nuts. 

Would seem to indicate that Sharp/Bickell/Versteeg close to untradeable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on June 30, 2015, 08:53:07 pm
I'd rather have the draft picks.  I didn't like anyone they got back.  Seems like he could have gotten more for him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 01, 2015, 04:00:45 am
Re: the Saad trade, Marko Dano is supposedly a very talented player and the key to the Hawks not being robbed in the deal. Anisimov is a solid player. Big problems still loom. They need to move Bickell and probably Versteeg. If they can, I'd hold on to Sharp who is due to bounce back from a subpar season. They're also going to need to replace Oduya and missing out on Mike Reilly over the weekend was a killer. All that said, their supposed interest in Barret Jackman is nauseating and would test my allegiance for any duration he would be on the roster.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 01, 2015, 07:19:24 am
Not totally shocked that Saad is moved, still I felt he would be a Blackhawk . Dano looks to be Saad-like although smaller & lighter, skill set is very promising...we'll have to wait and see.Oduya is exploring free agency...heard Bickell may be heading to Boston...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on July 01, 2015, 07:51:41 am
I'd probably move Sharp as well, if possible.  He'll be 34, and his best days are behind him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 01, 2015, 09:24:20 am
I'd probably move Sharp as well, if possible.  He'll be 34, and his best days are behind him.
Sharp going away to seek a contract that pays him very well and carries him into retirement financially secure.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 01, 2015, 02:39:32 pm
Sharp has two years left on his deal. I wouldn't mind seeing him stay in Chicago for those two. He had a terrific year previously. He's due for a bounce-back, imo. I'd rather move Bickell and Versteeg. Incidentally, the Hawks signed Viktor Tikhonov to a 1-year deal so they are quickly becoming the Chicagov Blackhawkovs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 01, 2015, 03:31:57 pm

Chris27 won't have to 'test his allegiance' as Barret Jackman signs a two-year contract with the Nashville Predators.  So starting this fall, JR can make excuses for Jackman's dirty plays.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 01, 2015, 03:32:12 pm
The Bulls have resigned Mike Dunleavy and everything Ive read says Jimmy Butler's next.

I was wrong in Butler.

He's turned into one hell of a player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 01, 2015, 03:32:48 pm
Butler agreed to a five year max with a player opt out after the 4th year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 01, 2015, 03:35:22 pm
Best news all week AndyM, thank you.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ron on July 05, 2015, 07:57:01 pm
In case anyone who cares missed it, the US Women's National Team won the World Cup final game 5-2 against Japan.  Carli Lloyd scored 3 of those goals.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: mO on July 05, 2015, 08:02:55 pm
5-2
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ron on July 05, 2015, 08:08:30 pm
5-2

Thanks - a typo - correcting now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on July 09, 2015, 09:28:06 pm
Kenny Stabler dead ar 69
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 09, 2015, 11:20:36 pm
The Bulls have resigned Aaron Brooks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 10, 2015, 07:56:43 am
Kenny "The Snake" Stabler has died at the age of 69.R.I.P.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on July 10, 2015, 08:01:41 am
AZ has me on ignore?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 10, 2015, 08:11:44 am
AZ has me on ignore?
lol, nope just missed your post Curt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on July 10, 2015, 09:18:15 am
AZ doesn't have CurtOne on ignore?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 10, 2015, 11:44:21 am
CurtOne who?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 10, 2015, 11:54:30 am
Lol...tough crowd...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: StrikeZone on July 10, 2015, 02:33:06 pm
The entire state of Arizona has Curt on ignore?  Wow, that's rough.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on July 10, 2015, 02:36:08 pm
Arizona has no taste
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 10, 2015, 09:11:58 pm
No one tell Chris about the Sharp trade.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 10, 2015, 09:34:09 pm
Yeah that's a horrendous deal. Hawks are punished for being successful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 11, 2015, 08:14:29 am
Guessing the Hawks had to dump salary, Sharp was a target once the cap number was announced, very sad to lose him.More moves will coming.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 11, 2015, 08:41:01 am
My hockey knowledge is limited, but it seems that including Johns is what makes it a bad deal.

The defenseman will replace Oduya for a cheaper salary, but he might not be as good?  The forward might be a 4th line guy or somebody they stash in the AHL for more cap savings?  Bickell and Versteeg might be on the way out, but their market is limited so prospects might have to be included in any trade. The defense seems to be the issue, does that sound correct?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on July 11, 2015, 11:14:23 am
CBJ - That's part of it for me.  Why include Johns?  Plus it isn't saving that much money.  Certainly not enough to bring back Kruger and Oduya at this point.  I suppose I should trust Bowman knows what he is doing.  I wished that Kane and Toewes would have taken a little less to sign. $10M each is a lot to have tied up in 2 players for the NHL.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 11, 2015, 09:12:10 pm
Kruger is must sign imo Oduya is a free agent who would likely move on if Hawks don't meet his expected number
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 11, 2015, 09:19:34 pm
Oduya has been waiting for the Hawks to clear salary for him. Problem is nobody wants Bickell and they had Bowman over a barrel for Sharp.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 14, 2015, 06:34:09 pm
Is Austin Nichols UT bound Dave?

Why else would he have wanted an unconditional release if he wasnt wanting to go to one of the restricted schools?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 14, 2015, 07:31:04 pm
Oduya not returning to Blackhawks, Dallas seems to be the frontrunner for the present.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on July 14, 2015, 08:55:18 pm
He didn't get an unconditional release. He wants to go to Virginia, but that's not happening either. UT is on the forbidden list.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on July 14, 2015, 08:58:49 pm
LOL, well, just looked on espn.com and saw the restrictions have been lifted...I just walked in the door, so I hadn't heard that.

Think Virginia is #1 on his list, followed by Duke...he does have a sister at UT, but his draft stock goes thru the roof at UVa or Duke...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 14, 2015, 08:58:55 pm
Now it is...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25241425/memphis-says-austin-nichols-is-free-to-transfer-without-restrictions
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 14, 2015, 11:05:15 pm
UT could use him and he'd be the star of the show from day 1.

We got lucky with Pearl but resume wise we've never had as good of a coach as Rick Barnes and his twin sister is at UT too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on July 15, 2015, 09:46:31 am
Good luck...Daddy appears to be calling the shots on that...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 16, 2015, 12:04:12 pm
Oduya signs with Stars
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on July 16, 2015, 12:24:22 pm
It'll be interesting to see how the Hawks respond.  It took them a full year to recover from the 2010 purge.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on July 17, 2015, 10:09:56 am
Losing Saad, Sharp, and to a lesser degree Oduya will present challenges for the Hawks there is no doubt, but I would think that the core group will work hard with the recent additions to play the "Hawks Way" maximizing the skill sets they bring to the ice . I anticipate a very competitive team that will challenge any team to take away Lord Stanley's Cup from them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 17, 2015, 04:57:45 pm
(http://ballertainment.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/JRW_US_CHAMPS_LLWS2014.jpg)


Jackie Robinson West Fundraiser Seeking $100,000 For Legal Fees Nets $90


http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150717/morgan-park/jackie-robinson-west-fundraiser-seeking-100000-for-legal-fees-nets-90 (http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150717/morgan-park/jackie-robinson-west-fundraiser-seeking-100000-for-legal-fees-nets-90)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 17, 2015, 05:38:38 pm
Should have had a few more car washes and spaghetti dinners.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Pistol on July 31, 2015, 10:52:56 pm
This

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on August 06, 2015, 07:15:00 pm
Patrick Kane is being investigated over alleged **** in Buffalo.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on August 06, 2015, 07:30:17 pm
by a man or woman?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on August 06, 2015, 07:39:36 pm
Woman.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 06, 2015, 08:26:24 pm
by a man or woman?

LMAO
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on August 15, 2015, 01:30:47 pm
After spending the last 7 days in Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida, I must say you folks take your SEC very serious.

Unlike the Big Ten boring crap we have here.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on August 15, 2015, 04:17:40 pm
SEC is a lifestyle. You should see Gamedays.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on August 15, 2015, 04:56:20 pm
On the beaches I thought there was going to be a turf war.

There were Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, and Florida tents and chairs everywhere.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 15, 2015, 05:09:15 pm
My wife and I are usually in Arkansas the last week in July.   All that's on tv and radio is the SEC media days and analysis of same.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 15, 2015, 05:35:11 pm
After spending the last 7 days in Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida, I must say you folks take your SEC very serious.

Unlike the Big Ten boring crap we have here.

You should live in Knoxville.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 15, 2015, 05:36:54 pm
I dont care anywhere near as much about the Cubs as I do the Big Orange.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 15, 2015, 06:03:50 pm
I dont care anywhere near as much about the Cubs as I do the Big Orange.
Well, we all knew you were a huge Head fan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on August 15, 2015, 07:54:01 pm
Buttchugging U
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on August 15, 2015, 07:55:23 pm
I think Alabama/Auburn Game day would be fun to watch in person.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Pistol on August 19, 2015, 09:36:44 am
After spending the last 7 days in Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida, I must say you folks take your SEC very serious.

Unlike the Big Ten boring crap we have here.

You should have come to GA. I would have given you the key to the city.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on August 19, 2015, 10:10:06 am
ROLL TIDE
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 19, 2015, 11:33:20 am
Im inclined to say something that will get me banned.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on August 19, 2015, 11:43:17 am
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/5c/5c9da7429ee0a5dd083abec92ad3e09ad5d51cb769537b46efebce1541f2949a.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on August 21, 2015, 07:44:16 pm
I would have given you the key to the city.

Is it safer than the south end of Peoria?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on August 25, 2015, 09:32:03 pm

(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Hockey/100929/100929-14544830Fr.jpg)

R.I.P.  Chico Maki

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-former-blackhawk-ron-chico-maki-dies-20150825-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-former-blackhawk-ron-chico-maki-dies-20150825-story.html)

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Pistol on August 26, 2015, 08:34:55 pm
What the....
http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2015/08/26/derrick-rose-sued-for-gang-****
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 26, 2015, 09:45:10 pm
Damn.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 02, 2015, 08:24:41 pm
Something straight off of Lockup on MSNBC...

http://wjbf.com/2015/09/02/ex-san-francisco-49ers-running-back-lawrence-phillips-charged-with-killing-cellmate/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 05, 2015, 06:20:19 pm
Holy crap BYU won at Nebraska!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on September 05, 2015, 07:34:23 pm
What a play for BYU.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 05, 2015, 08:44:41 pm
Nebraska hasnt been relevant since Tom Osborne.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 05, 2015, 10:16:20 pm
So almost as long as Tennessee?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 05, 2015, 10:50:01 pm
I knew that was coming. Lol

We won today though.

They're pretty decent but they'll have their hands full Saturday with Oklahoma.

8-4 should be realistic.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 05, 2015, 10:52:22 pm
Tennessee was relevant when Coach Head was there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 05, 2015, 11:53:26 pm
Ive tried to turn over a new leaf but I still cant stand her.

Word is she isnt doing well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 06, 2015, 08:45:57 am
Yeah, I heard that too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 08, 2015, 04:07:06 pm
Has everybody seen the video of the high school ref getting smoked by 2 players for cheating?

LMAO

Now they're saying the coach told them to do it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 08, 2015, 04:22:39 pm
I hadn't heard the ref was cheating.  How?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 08, 2015, 04:30:10 pm
I dont know the full story.

I just saw bits and pieces on a UT board I read.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on September 08, 2015, 05:16:31 pm
I thought it was in retaliation for a bad call.  If a coach order it, sucks to be him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 08, 2015, 05:31:52 pm
I just read that one of the assistant coaches has been dismissed so there may be something to it.  The players are saying the ref was making racial slurs throughout the game.  Don't know how true that is.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 08, 2015, 07:30:53 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/08/sport/texas-football-official-hit/index.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 13, 2015, 12:50:14 am
BYU did it again.  This time at home.  Wow
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 14, 2015, 09:30:43 am
I probably should just keep my mouth shut, but I wonder if Tampa Bay has any regrets taking Winston over Mariota right now . . .
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on September 14, 2015, 09:41:04 am
Almost like Bills regretting taking FSU QB EJ Manual in 2013...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on September 14, 2015, 10:15:20 am
I probably should just keep my mouth shut, but I wonder if Tampa Bay has any regrets taking Winston over Mariota right now . . .
I probably should just keep my mouth shut, but I wonder if Tampa Bay has any regrets taking Winston over Mariota right now . . .

This city is literally melting down right now... some of the calls on the sports radio this morning made me spit my tea out on the way to work...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BullingersEars on September 14, 2015, 10:23:43 am
People need to let it work out for a bit.....

Griffin over Luck was all the rage their first year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 18, 2015, 11:46:03 am
Bulls sign Jordan Crawford.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 19, 2015, 11:05:05 pm
Hey Dave.

Although Im sure Im not taking as much joy from it as you are Im loving this Ole Miss/Bama game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 19, 2015, 11:37:27 pm
ROLL TIDE!!!!

LMMFAO
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 20, 2015, 12:16:26 pm
Hotty Toddy!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 27, 2015, 05:37:41 pm
Sad.  The best offensive weapon for the Bears is their punter.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on September 27, 2015, 06:11:12 pm
It is kinda amazing to me.  I have an emotional investment with the Cubs even when they are bad. I just can't get worked up about the Bears stinking anymore. Even when I see Pete Carroll's mug on the TV, I just shrug. I have no clue why, but it happened.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on September 27, 2015, 06:18:21 pm
I can't stand to watch them anymore. I have watched like 10 minutes total of the three games this season. Today was the first day this season I have watched football all afternoon until the Bears came on then it's been Law & Order which I have never watched in my life.

Sometimes I wish they would just get rid of the franchise altogether.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on September 27, 2015, 07:03:40 pm
I watched them, but it is more that I got DirectTV and got Sunday ticket for free. I'd feel stupid to waste it.  The second 4th down conversion that the Seahawks got, if I cared about the team would have gotten something out of me. This time it was, wow that was a great play by Wilson..
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 27, 2015, 07:05:21 pm
Jordan Spieth is a pretty good golfer.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on September 29, 2015, 05:45:57 pm
Rose out indefinitely after taking an elbow to the face in practice.

He should be ready to go in two years when his contract is up though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 19, 2015, 06:41:48 pm
I know it's only the preseason but the Bulls defense is a disaster so far.  33 point 1st quarter again tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on October 20, 2015, 04:52:49 pm
No one wanted Thibs anymore so this is what you get.

The offense won't be improved that much to overcome what's happening with the defense so far.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 31, 2015, 12:57:02 pm
So the Ohio State QB gets a one game suspension for drunk driving.  Good thing he didn't kill anybody or he'd have gotten two games.  Unless, of course, it was against Michigan or Michigan State, then he haven't to serve it during the spring scrimmages.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 31, 2015, 05:07:25 pm
The Pharoah!  Wow!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 03, 2015, 08:52:43 pm
This Hoiberg thing ain't gonna last long for the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 04, 2015, 07:52:26 am
It's uncharacteristic of you to be so negative.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 04, 2015, 09:01:37 am
It's uncharacteristic of you to be so negative.

Delicious and nutritious, Play.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on November 04, 2015, 09:02:42 am
Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 04, 2015, 02:59:57 pm
I should be more positive after they surrendered 130 points to a non-playoff team, play poor defense, mediocre 1-on-1 offense, and have a shot superstar PG and center.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 04, 2015, 03:01:30 pm
Is that a confession or a question?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 04, 2015, 04:06:02 pm
The Bulls are a strong team.

They're easily a 50 win team as long as Rose stays healthy.

If he dont they're still a playoff team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 04, 2015, 04:11:51 pm
You haven't watched them or Rose play thus far, have you?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 04, 2015, 11:27:28 pm
http://nesn.com/2015/11/report-the-breakup-has-begun-between-derrick-rose-chicago-bulls/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 05, 2015, 09:47:30 pm
Well sorry ass Derrick Rose and the lottery bound Bulls just improved to 4-2 with a win over the Thunder.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 05, 2015, 09:57:55 pm
Eeking out a win at home over a team playing their 4th game in 5 nights doesn't mean much, but at least they showed some backbone after the debacle Tuesday.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on November 05, 2015, 11:08:54 pm
I am curious how far Chris has to go back for his view of last good bulls team?  Jordan, pippen?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 06, 2015, 12:37:51 am
Chris must have a blazing hot wife to live up to his lofty standards.

I bet he wouldnt give a 9 the time of day.

I can hear him now... "Her ass is too round and Im not feeling those blonde highlights in her hair".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 06, 2015, 01:34:35 am
Not sure what you people are arguing. Every single statistical indicator so far, not to mention the eye test, has shown the Bulls have majors issues. The team basically didn't show up to play against Charlotte. Both Rose and Noah had been two of the worst players in the league. And the new Hoibergian offense has been more static and less productive than Thibodeau's. They'll win some games because they have some individual talent and because the East is filled with bad teams, but they are a long way from the contender they were 4-5 years ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on November 06, 2015, 09:21:29 am
I am curious how far Chris has to go back for his view of last good bulls team?  Jordan, pippen?

Are you crazy? Those teams averaged like 17 losses per year.  There is no way he'd find that acceptable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 06, 2015, 02:53:48 pm
Pointing out this team's issues certainly has something to do with the Jordan teams. Such comparable topics.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 06, 2015, 03:02:38 pm
While I agree that Chris has a mean negative streak at times, I too am concerned about the lack of defensive principles in this team.  I don't even think it has much to do with coaching but more to do with two european big men who don't give a damn about help defense. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 06, 2015, 03:23:52 pm
Mean.....lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 06, 2015, 06:15:59 pm
While I agree that Chris has a mean negative streak at times, I too am concerned about the lack of defensive principles in this team.  I don't even think it has much to do with coaching but more to do with two european big men who don't give a damn about help defense. 

Ill agree.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on November 06, 2015, 07:05:32 pm
Not sure what you people are arguing. Every single statistical indicator so far, not to mention the eye test, has shown the Bulls have majors issues. The team basically didn't show up to play against Charlotte. Both Rose and Noah had been two of the worst players in the league. And the new Hoibergian offense has been more static and less productive than Thibodeau's. They'll win some games because they have some individual talent and because the East is filled with bad teams, but they are a long way from the contender they were 4-5 years ago.

Im not sure how good this bulls team will be.  That comment really wasnt bout this team tho.  I have liked some of past rose teams Tho.  And this cubs team and a few others.  It's just hard to gauge a cubs/bull team on your comments as its pretty much same thing every year.  Literally laughed as I wondered what you would have said bout the Jordan teams so posted it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 06, 2015, 07:29:26 pm
It's just hard to gauge a cubs/bull team on your comments as its pretty much same thing every year. 

Actually, it's not the same at all. When the Bulls have been good or great, that gets acknowledged. When they are mediocre or bad, that gets acknowledged.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 07, 2015, 09:21:06 am
It's way too early to call this Bulls team mediocre or bad.  New coach, new system.  What do they look like with Dunleavy back?  I think we should give Hoiberg at least a few months before declaring this team anything.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 07, 2015, 09:33:02 am
Problem on this team is Rose and his horrible attitude. Bulls need to move on from the crystal glass.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 07, 2015, 02:01:58 pm
Basing my comments on what I've seen thus far, and also on what they looked like last year. Gasol isn't suddenly going to become a decent defender. Noah and Rose have looked like shells of their former selves for two years the times they've actually be on the court. Outside of Butler, hardly any two-way players on the roster.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 07, 2015, 07:45:11 pm
Bulls lose at home to the another bad team and become the 11th team in NBA history to go scoreless in overtime. Rose 3-13, 5 TO's.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 08, 2015, 09:51:13 pm
Why does the Blackhawks Twitter account refer to Panarin as BreadTime?  Panera?

For those watching Bulls games how has McDermott looked?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 09, 2015, 12:56:50 am
Yes, as in Panera Bread Company. It's his really awful nickname they gave him. At least he has sick skill.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on November 09, 2015, 08:55:01 am
Panarin second goal was a  fantastic wrister that I haven't witnessed in long time  and Kane's no look back handed shot was sick...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on November 09, 2015, 01:08:04 pm
Granted the Hawks don't look as good as they did last season, but Panarin sure is becoming one of my favorite players. He's playing great and will help make the loss of Sharp and the others, a little bit easier to swallow
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on November 09, 2015, 01:23:02 pm
This 'Hawks team should find its stride once the new adds and  vets chemistry becomes more balanced...Keith's return, as well as Rozival, will a definite plus...Read in the Trib that 'Hawks looking into trading for defensive talent...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 15, 2015, 12:43:01 am
Ronda Rousey just took a trip to Humble City.

And no Im not a UFC fan.

I only like the fake stuff.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 27, 2015, 09:25:53 pm
Steph Curry has 22 points on 7 shots.  How the hell does one set goals after a performance like that?

If you're down on NBA, watch a Warriors game.  It's high art.  They have so many skilled players - I think on many teams Barnes could be a star.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 27, 2015, 09:39:26 pm
Make that 27 points on 9 shots...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 27, 2015, 11:16:44 pm
Curry's PER right now would be the best of any player in NBA history. The top ten is all Jordan, James, and Chamberlain. His effective FG% would be 11th all-time in any season. The highest rated guard in that category is Steve Nash at #24.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on November 28, 2015, 11:39:51 am
My Davidson guy!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 28, 2015, 11:49:01 pm
I'm sure some of us remember the late basketball coach Bill Musselman's "Sweet Georgia Brown" pregame show from the 1970s.  His son Eric has revived the routine at Nevada-Reno.  It lasts 6:30 and is worth watching.  Be sure to go full screen.

http://bit.ly/1NBRAKK
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 02, 2015, 01:44:49 pm
Nobody seems to say much about the Bulls when they're playing well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 02, 2015, 04:58:38 pm
Let us know when that happens.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on December 03, 2015, 07:17:44 pm
Good for Davidson:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14284259/stephen-curry-jersey-retired-davidson-college-graduates
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 05, 2015, 05:36:33 pm
The Bulls do have the best winning % in the East at .688. It won't last because their offense is pretty bad, but some folks act like the Bulls are worse than the 76ers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 05, 2015, 09:13:54 pm
but some folks act like the Bulls are worse than the 76ers.

Nobody thinks any such thing. They're just very mediocre and no threat for a title anymore.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 07, 2015, 09:27:39 pm
Bulls blow a 16-pt lead in the 4th quarter at home to the 8-13 Suns, allowing 42 points in the process.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 07, 2015, 09:32:34 pm
Yet no one says a word when they're winning?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 07, 2015, 09:34:32 pm
You don't get the difference between their close, ugly wins and these embarrassing losses? Or do you just not care?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 01, 2016, 01:37:44 pm
I bet Northwestern will go on strike again after today for an unsafe work environment.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 04, 2016, 01:39:35 am
D. Rose to have an MRI on his knee tomorrow.

If he has blown it out again he might as well retire.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on January 04, 2016, 07:39:23 am
Like a shark in the water....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 04, 2016, 09:31:01 am
He and the Bulls say it is minor discomfort and they don't expect anything to be wrong.  We'll see I guess but I am not one to jump to conclusions just because it fits a narrative.   

Meanwhile Jimmy Butler singlehandedly won the game last for the Bulls.  Best individual performance I have seen since the Jordan years.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 04, 2016, 01:20:14 pm
The MRI was on the hammy not the knee, and it came back clean.  Getting pretty ghoulish around here.

The more interesting question is what Fred does when Noah comes back.  No way Portis can go back to the taxi squad.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 04, 2016, 01:38:26 pm
Fred has already stated that Portis will "remain in the rotation", FWIW.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 04, 2016, 01:42:05 pm
Exactly.  So how does one accomplish that when Mirotic has already been moved to SF to accommodate the bigs rotation, even with Noah out?

Not to mention that Dunleavy will be back sooner or later, at least in theory.  Seems like Noah or Gibson just about has to be salary dumped.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 04, 2016, 02:29:24 pm
What Ive read said the MRI was on a sore right knee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 04, 2016, 03:30:46 pm
It was his knee...

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14502782/chicago-bulls-point-guard-derrick-rose-no-structural-right-knee-mri-revealed
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 04, 2016, 06:26:18 pm
Quote
An MRI on Rose's hamstring Monday came back clean, and Rose is listed as day-to-day going forward, KC Johnson of the Chicago Tribune reports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 05, 2016, 03:38:36 pm
For the wrestling fans here and I know there are a few WWE just signed quite possibly the best tag team from Japan and 2 best singles stars.

For the people who dont really follow it it's a game changer.

The WWE product has gotten stale and this could be a very big injection of life for them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 05, 2016, 03:43:05 pm
New Japan is probably the 2nd best wrestling fed in the world.

If you've never seen it it's worth watching.

Hulk Hogan said he was a bigger star over there than he was here.

They draw crowds bigger than WWE and most every good wrestler in the world goes over there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on January 05, 2016, 04:59:15 pm
WWE or WWF and "sports" just do not belong together.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 09, 2016, 01:18:29 pm
If the Bulls continue to play this well, we may not see another post from Chris in this thread!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on January 09, 2016, 01:53:48 pm
With the Cubs, Hawks, and Bulls playing/looking so good, these are dark days for Chris. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 09, 2016, 03:01:51 pm
And I'm also a Warrior fan.  Times are good!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 09, 2016, 11:20:29 pm
Holy Smokes.  Talk about a bunch of undisciplined thugs losing a game tonight.  What's wrong with those Bengals?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 10, 2016, 01:07:57 am
Looks like Pacman Jones is up to his old tricks again. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 10, 2016, 08:52:20 am
I'm a firm believer in "what happens in the locker room should stay in the locker room" but I'd really like to know how those two bozos were treated by the rest of the team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Eastcoastfan on January 10, 2016, 12:18:54 pm
That was the worst loss I have ever seen.  Beyond belief.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on January 11, 2016, 02:01:09 pm
In the off-season, I root for the Vikings.  What's wrong with me?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 11, 2016, 02:29:10 pm
Well you could be a Titans fan . . .
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 11, 2016, 03:22:53 pm
So JR would have some company seeing that he's the only one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 11, 2016, 03:55:10 pm
In the off-season, I root for the Vikings.  What's wrong with me?
You might be a moran or a trader.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on January 11, 2016, 04:24:13 pm
Quote
You might be a moran or a trader.

No, the analogy there would be a Packers fan. 

Rooting for the Cubs (and not the Cardinals) is very much like rooting for the Vikings (and not the Packers), complete with heartbreaking losses (like yesterday).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 11, 2016, 04:49:22 pm
In dont unterstand...I have drain bamage.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on January 12, 2016, 06:17:40 pm
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14550673/vontaze-burfict-cincinnati-bengals-suspended-3-games-repeated-safety-violations

The article sounds like the coaching staff doesn't see a big problem with his actions.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 13, 2016, 12:53:50 pm
Lawrence Phillips found dead in prison cell

Former Nebraska I-back Lawrence Phillips, facing first-degree murder charges in the April death of his cellmate at Kern Valley (California) State Prison, was found dead in his prison cell Wednesday morning.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 13, 2016, 12:54:19 pm
Maybe he freaked finding out that the Rams were moving back.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 13, 2016, 12:57:45 pm
Talk about a life that went straight to hell.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 13, 2016, 01:13:08 pm
Wow, no kidding. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 13, 2016, 05:40:31 pm
LOL  One statistician figured out that Roberto Colon had a better chance at hitting an inside the park home run than anyone winning the lottery.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 13, 2016, 06:35:03 pm
But someone will win the lottery... Fatolo would need a lot of help pulling of a inside the park home run.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 14, 2016, 02:11:48 pm
My 49ers hire Chip Kelly.

I like it.

I was not feeling Hue Jackson.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 14, 2016, 02:34:31 pm
LOL  One statistician figured out that Roberto Colon had a better chance at hitting an inside the park home run than anyone winning the lottery.

Curt... looks like Colon hit 3 inside the park homers last night....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 14, 2016, 02:38:04 pm
I think the point is that if you gave Colon 371 million at-bats, he'd hit 4 inside the park HRs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 14, 2016, 03:02:56 pm
yuppers...of course, he'd be older than Methusaleh by the time he got to #4.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 14, 2016, 03:34:11 pm
Dammitt.

My wife was gonna buy me a 22 million dollar house at Wailai if she won.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 14, 2016, 03:36:15 pm
Excuse me.

It was at Oahu.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 14, 2016, 10:58:07 pm
Dusty, you better read this:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2607942-chip-kelly-and-the-49ers-are-the-worst-match-imaginable?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 15, 2016, 12:21:09 am
If all he has to do is coach he'll be fine.

They shouldnt have even needed a coach in the first place though and kept Jim Harbaugh.

What do I know though?

I like college football 1000 times more than the NFL and havent even watched 1 quarter of a game all year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 18, 2016, 01:46:28 pm
I need a new favorite NFL team.  My word, following this Titans press conference is just awful. 

Sorry for the 99% of people here who rightfully couldn't give a damn about the Titans or (also rightly) aren't aware of their existence, but I just had to vent.

It's like being a Cubs fan during the Don Grenesko/Larry Himes days.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on January 18, 2016, 01:48:28 pm
JR what happened or what was said? Titans need help for sure
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 18, 2016, 01:51:21 pm
Oh it's just a long litany of platitudes from the new GM, about finding the right people with tough character, physical players, etc, etc.

Mike Mularkey also said we should have confidence in him because he coached Kordell Stewart and Michael Turner.

And the team president said he absolutely couldn't understand why people wouldn't have confidence in their coaching search, even though they only interviewed four people for the job and one of them at least was the token "Rooney Rule" interview.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 18, 2016, 01:58:27 pm
If the coach and president have to bring up Kordell Stewart's name during the introductory press conference to try to sell the team's fan base on the coaching hire, that's not a good thing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on January 18, 2016, 02:02:38 pm
They are in sad shape. Maybe they wont wiff on their draft picks for the next few years
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 18, 2016, 02:55:46 pm
I need a new favorite NFL team.  My word, following this Titans press conference is just awful. 

Sorry for the 99% of people here who rightfully couldn't give a damn about the Titans or (also rightly) aren't aware of their existence, but I just had to vent.

It's like being a Cubs fan during the Don Grenesko/Larry Himes days.

come be a bucs fan... atleast the weather here is nicer!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on January 18, 2016, 04:08:18 pm
Maybe this will help, JR.  I got this thrown back at me when I was whining about being a Cubs/Vikings fan and the heartbreak that goes with that combo.  One word:  Cleveland.

It could always be worse.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 19, 2016, 04:14:41 pm
Antwaan Randel El apparently regrets not signing with the Cubs out of high school instead of playing pro football.

By the way, CurtOne will appreciate the quote at the end of the story.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2016/01/19/If-I-could-go-back-I-wouldn-t-play-football/stories/201601190177?utm_medium=social&utm_source=Facebook&utm_campaign=echobox&utm_term=Autofeed
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 19, 2016, 04:15:35 pm
Maybe this will help, JR.  I got this thrown back at me when I was whining about being a Cubs/Vikings fan and the heartbreak that goes with that combo.  One word:  Cleveland.

It could always be worse.

I'm not sure DMF.  The Titans look like they're on a first class ticket straight down to Browns-ville to me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 19, 2016, 04:16:49 pm
MArcus looked decent for the few starts of his i saw this year...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 19, 2016, 04:17:47 pm
Yuppers.   Take away the helmets!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 19, 2016, 04:23:22 pm
MArcus looked decent for the few starts of his i saw this year...

Marcus is by far the best thing the Titans have going for them.

When he's been out of the lineup, though, you can just see all the putridness there is on the field to support him.  Delane Walker is a good player.  Taylor Lewan is probably an average NFL left tackle, and Kendall Wright would make for a nice #3 receiver on a good team.  Dorial Green-Beckham is very raw but had his moments when he wasn't dropping passes and running bad routes.  The rest of the players on offense are flat out garbage.

And they have a few nice pieces on defense.   
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on January 24, 2016, 08:58:40 pm
Carolina Panthers beat down of Arizona Cardinals was very entertaining game..... The Panthers  owned both sides of the football...49-15
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 24, 2016, 10:34:43 pm
I'm hearing that the Patriots are bitching about the balls being over-inflated.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 29, 2016, 05:30:00 pm
Ole Miss is about to get the NCAA to come down on them, least surprising news ever.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 29, 2016, 05:46:48 pm
Dave's gonna ban you.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 29, 2016, 06:41:10 pm
I mean you could say that about almost every team in college football, but it is especially true in the $EC.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 29, 2016, 07:08:58 pm
I would expect that from a non SEC fan.

Its the 9th best football division in America.

Right behind the 8 divisions in the NFL.

The mid 4 teams in the SEC would win most conferences year in and year out.

Ole Miss has beaten Alabama 2 years in a row when damn near nobody else could.

Northwestern was supposed to be a top 15 team and Tennessee who was probably the 6th best team in the SEC beat them like a high school team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on January 29, 2016, 07:54:43 pm
More smoke than fire...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 30, 2016, 12:22:50 am
The mid 4 teams in the SEC would win most conferences year in and year out.

Tennessee wouldn't have won the Pac 10, Big 10, Big 12 or ACC any time in the last 10 years. Alabama is the best team in the nation and will remain the gold standard until Saban retires. The rest of the SEC is a fine conference, but they are not elite teams from top to bottom.

A fun Google search is Laquan Treadwell recruiting pictures. I highly doubt a poor kid from Chicago is bringing stacks of $100 bills on a recruiting trip. The list of colleges that aren't paying football players is under 10 teams long.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on January 30, 2016, 12:39:09 am
It has been that way for at least 30 years, and I'm sure it has been longer than that...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 30, 2016, 12:42:23 am
Butch Jones aint cheating.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on January 30, 2016, 07:57:51 am
Butch isn't directly paying players, but boosters are.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on January 30, 2016, 11:21:20 am
When i was in high school I moved form Alonso to River Ridge my Junior year... there was a Star two sport athlete named TJ Tucker.

TJ played Baseball and TE/Kicker on the FB team. UF wanted him as a kicker. TJ was a really nice guy, they had a lot unfortunately events happen to their family... he lost his brother in a car accident during HS, Junior year his car was stolen and burned by some idiots, his family wasnt exactly very well off, his dad ran a Landscaping firm.

TJ goes to UF for an official visit, and comes back to school on Monday with a brand spanking new 1998 Mustang GT in blue, with orange and blue leather interior... he "leased" the car himself was the story back then... there is no way he managed to afford that car on his own.

TJ was subsequently drafted 47th overall by the Expos... he went on to be a BP arm for them for a few years... and turned the lease for his mustang, magically ended shortly after he signed his contract with the Expos.

Point of the story is... they have been doing this stuff forever... back then players didnt get paid as they do now... so if they got a few perks for putting their bodies on the line... so be it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 03, 2016, 08:54:22 pm
Steph Curry has 41 points on 20 shots so far tonight.  I'd have to check, but I think that's good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on February 04, 2016, 02:18:52 pm
I don't really like basketball, but I don't know of any athlete in any sport that's as much fun to watch as Curry.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 04, 2016, 02:23:02 pm
On the Fangraphs podcast they discussed the difference in value of stars in baseball and basketball.  To get the effect that Lebron has on the Cavs a similar baseball player would be worth 40 WAR.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 05, 2016, 11:13:40 pm
The Bulls are an utter disaster. They may have lost Jimmy Butler for a long period, perhaps the season after he left on a stretcher. Gasol and Mirotic were already out to go along with Noah and Dunleavy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 06, 2016, 11:09:54 am
They weren't all that great when healthy!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 07, 2016, 10:57:25 pm
Does Trent Dilder always wear the Super Bowl ring on post game shows or is it only a Super a Bowl thing to rub it in the face of Cris Carter?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on February 08, 2016, 12:53:59 pm
Wouldn't you wear the ring if you were Dilfer?  Dilfer was a mediocre-at-best QB who was in the right place at the right time for Baltimore's killer defense, kinda like Peyton yesterday.  Chris Carter is in the Hall of Fame.  I can still hear Carter's post-game Agony of Defeat sobs post-NFC championship game, but I have to think, if he had to pick, he'd take the Hall of Fame over a Superbowl win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 08, 2016, 01:28:31 pm
I'd wear it every day.  I don't watch a ton of ESPN NFL shows, but I don't remember him wearing it when I did.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 12, 2016, 08:41:12 pm
Stinging analysis of Bulls' management:

http://www.blogabull.com/2016/2/11/10968770/the-worst-front-office-in-the-nba-the-chicago-bulls
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 13, 2016, 03:44:03 pm
If you haven't seen them yet, flip on the Pebble Beach pro-am for a minute (CBS) and check out Bill Murray's pants...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 13, 2016, 10:44:40 pm
Thanks Dave, that was pretty outstanding.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on February 16, 2016, 06:47:36 am
If you haven't seen them yet, flip on the Pebble Beach pro-am for a minute (CBS) and check out Bill Murray's pants...

They're only $130.00
(http://mlb.mlb.com/assets/images/8/7/0/164443870/cuts/murraypants_wezf5o8o_i2r334of.jpg)


http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/7/71/1328525/bill-murray-wore-argyle-cubs-pants-golf-tournament
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 16, 2016, 11:27:08 am
Only?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 16, 2016, 11:59:58 am
I'm not sure where they got the $130 price tag?

They're $99.50 on loudmouthgolf.com
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on February 16, 2016, 12:09:02 pm
It looks like $99.50 is the "off the shelf" price and $130.00 is with alterations.  They are side-by-side if you click on the link.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 16, 2016, 07:51:25 pm
It looks like $99.50 is the "off the shelf" price and $130.00 is with alterations.  They are side-by-side if you click on the link.
I want one with Cardinals all around the fly.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 25, 2016, 08:44:44 pm
Blackhawks traded for Andrew Ladd for Dano, 1st round pick and a conditional 2018 3rd round pick (winning Stanley cup). The Leafs (?) retained salary on Ladd.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on February 25, 2016, 09:45:33 pm
Seems like a steep price for a rental.  I'm not real happy about that trade.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 25, 2016, 10:32:47 pm
It is a steep price. Winning a cup would make it worth it though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 25, 2016, 10:50:52 pm
Blackhawks are working for a trade on a defenseman that starts with H from Vancouver. He is supposed to be older, no clue on how good he is. I've learned I like playoff hockey, even though I don't understand a lot about it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 25, 2016, 11:13:51 pm
^^ Dan Hamhuis. Been around forever. Not what he was but would be a decent 6th or 7th guy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on February 26, 2016, 01:18:59 pm
Its a steep price to pay for sure, but if it helps get us another Cup, i'm ok with it. At some point, we are going to have to restock our prospects
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 26, 2016, 09:33:52 pm
Just realized the Bulls traded Kirk Hinrich a week ago. Had assumed he was still hurt or benched.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 27, 2016, 07:45:00 am
They got Justin Holiday who I liked quite a bit when he was a Warrior.  Don't know how much he has played, but he should be a good fit for Hoiberg's system.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 27, 2016, 10:27:09 pm
This Curry guy ain't bad.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 27, 2016, 11:29:05 pm
Kinda ridiculous, actually. Like some sort of human/robot hybrid.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ticohans on February 28, 2016, 01:14:01 am
Most entertaining athlete in sports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 28, 2016, 06:55:47 am
The Big O knows how to stop him though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on March 26, 2016, 07:04:40 pm
This Bulls team is about as dysfunctional as the Tim Floyd ones. But that team had little talent.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on March 26, 2016, 08:18:40 pm
They're  on vacation already.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 02, 2016, 10:51:30 pm
Jigs, I haven't watched this yet, but could you watch this and tell me how good this is?

http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/villanova-oklahoma-highlights-as-called-by-jim-ross-cl-1768727036
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 03, 2016, 10:22:25 am
I liked it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 08, 2016, 02:58:11 am
Gotta love this Tyler Summitt story.

Easily the most pleasure Ill get out of sports all year short of the Cubs winning the WS or my Big Orange winning a national title.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 08, 2016, 12:00:51 pm
Poor ol Tyler Summitt.

I guess the bright side is Pat will only give him hell about it for a few minutes before she forgets what she was talking about.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 08, 2016, 12:01:38 pm
Keep it classy, as usual.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on April 08, 2016, 12:43:40 pm
It took me a google to figure out who Tyler Summit is.  What a mess and why would a college hire a 25 year old to coach a women's team, even if his mom was a great coach.

As somebody who's grandparents have dementia, the Pat Summit joke was in poor taste.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 08, 2016, 12:46:00 pm
My great grandfather had it.

I was just playing.

I meant no harm.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 08, 2016, 02:06:08 pm
It took me a google to figure out who Tyler Summit is.  What a mess and why would a college hire a 25 year old to coach a women's team, even if his mom was a great coach.

Yeah and Louisiana Tech's women's program ought to be prestigious enough where they shouldn't resort to making a publicity/nepotism hire like that.  It seems like Tech's athletic director ought to get the axe for that one too.

Word is he impregnated one of his players.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 09, 2016, 05:54:16 pm
Jordan Spieth is pretty good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 09, 2016, 10:31:03 pm
How about Langer?  Amazing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 10, 2016, 09:43:55 am
Unless Jordan Spieth hits more fairways, his magic putter won't be enough this afternoon.
Smylie Kaufman will find out what pressure really is when he hits Amen Corner.
Age will catch up with Bernhard Langer.
Dustin Johnson's string of not coming through on Sunday in the majors will continue.
Rory McIlroy's game is too out of whack for him to have a chance.

Jason Day will win in a playoff over Hideki Matsuyama.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 10, 2016, 10:00:24 am
I'd put my money on Spieth.  I doubt he'll be so erratic today from the tee today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 10, 2016, 10:14:00 am
I'd put my money on Spieth.  I doubt he'll be so erratic today from the tee today.
I'd be happy if you are right, but I think Jordan and his caddy are overanalyzing every shot right now.  To borrow a baseball expression, sometimes "see the ball, hit the ball" is the way to go.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 10, 2016, 11:32:46 am
I was surprised how often he hit good solid fairway shots after appearing indecisive.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on April 10, 2016, 11:41:54 am
He's not indecisive just ridiculously slow.  The pace of play on the PGA Tour is awful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 10, 2016, 02:03:33 pm
Tiger Woods had an interview with Time magazine, and he talked about the friendship he's developed with Jason Day.  Day called out to him about a year ago about how to improve his mental approach in majors, and one of the things Tiger said is you have to treat every single shot as the most important one you'll hit (or something to that effect).

I imagine that kind of approach is a big part of why Speith and Day have separated themselves from the pack in the last year or so.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 10, 2016, 07:12:15 pm
Speith should have focused a little harder.

+4's are hard to overcome on Sundays in a major.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 10, 2016, 07:23:51 pm
Yep, indeed they are.  Really shocking how he blew it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 12, 2016, 08:53:24 am
The NCAA finally gets something right.

With Austin, Charleston, and Myrtle Beach all seeking new football bowl games, the NCAA said no more for at least three years.  Better late than never I guess.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 17, 2016, 03:23:36 pm
Are you a big Tubby Smith supporter now Dave?

I honestly thought they'd go after Bruce Pearl.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on April 17, 2016, 04:03:09 pm
Tubby was a solid choice for where they are as a program right now. He can get them back to being a tournament team with an occasional good run in the tourney.

Hopefully his successor can take them to the next level, unlike Pastner...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 17, 2016, 04:16:33 pm
If Tubby can keep the talent in Memphis, he'll do a good job coaching them up. 

I'm sure with some of the NCAA violations Memphis has had over the years, they wanted to steer clear of someone like Pearl.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 17, 2016, 04:34:02 pm
They say that's the key to winning at UT.

Getting the Memphis kids.

Of course since Rick Barnes has been here he has recruited like he was at Belmont.

If there was a 5* kid in Knoxville I doubt he'd even call him.

If you're not a 3* wing he dont want you.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 20, 2016, 04:38:46 pm
Thibodeau about to get the job with full control in Minnesota. Tons of talent to work with. Might have a better record than the Bulls next year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on April 21, 2016, 08:12:38 pm
Will the Houston Rockets tonight become the first team in NBA history to lose a game by 100 or more points?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on April 21, 2016, 08:37:45 pm
Has there ever been a worse NBA playoff team than this current Memphis Grizzlies squad?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 22, 2016, 09:59:45 am
Hawks still playing hockey after Kane's 2nd OT wrap around goal for 4-3 win!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 22, 2016, 10:48:23 am
Was that really a wrap around?  I thought that was when you carry the puck around the back of the net and score from the other side.  Kane skated around the back of the net without the puck then reached the puck on the other side and put it home.

Not that it matters.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on April 22, 2016, 01:11:30 pm
Was that really a wrap around?  I thought that was when you carry the puck around the back of the net and score from the other side.  Kane skated around the back of the net without the puck then reached the puck on the other side and put it home.

Not that it matters.
Let Jes answer this one
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 22, 2016, 01:36:58 pm
I called it a wrap around...Kane swept around the goal after his shot was stopped he then put the loose puck into the basket.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 22, 2016, 02:05:11 pm
Whatever one calls it, I'm glad he pulled it off!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on April 22, 2016, 10:40:22 pm
Whatever one calls it, I'm glad he pulled it off!
  correct
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on May 14, 2016, 07:22:59 pm
For Dusty

Former wrestler Jimmy ‘Superfly’ Snuka shouldn’t be tried for killing his girlfriend because repeated hits to head have left him a ‘shell of a man’

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/jimmy-superfly-snuka-shell-man-due-hits-head-article-1.2636521 (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/jimmy-superfly-snuka-shell-man-due-hits-head-article-1.2636521)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 14, 2016, 08:21:09 pm
Ive often told people I have a PhD in pro wrestling because Ive loved and followed it for so long but without reading the story he apparently did this 20+ years ago and Ive watched several interviews about it.

Im not really sure why they decided to try Super Fly now when the man is probably damn near dead.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 14, 2016, 08:26:11 pm
The murder happened 33 years ago and Snuka is 73 years old now.

Meeting the number of wrestlers Ive been lucky enough to have met and I can honestly say Ive met damn near all of them of any significance Im sure his brain's fried at that age.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on May 14, 2016, 09:05:52 pm
The murder happened 33 years ago and Snuka is 73 years old now.

Meeting the number of wrestlers Ive been lucky enough to have met and I can honestly say Ive met damn near all of them of any significance Im sure his brain's fried at that age.

Many of those in prison for murder have brains which are fried.  For some reason murder is still considered a crime if the killer's brain is "fried," so long as he knew what he was doing at the time and intended what he did.  *IF* he is not now mentally competent to stand trial because he does not comprehend the charges against him and is not able to assist his defense attorney on defending against the charges, the prosecution should not be allowed to go forward, but that hurdle is fairly high.

From the link: Prosecutors assert Snuka is well enough to stand trial. During cross-examination, they played a video that showed him in the ring as recently as last year — even doing his trademark move, the Superfly Splash, albeit from the second turnbuckle instead of the top.  Another video showed him giving an interview recently in which he appeared lucid and in character.

That last sentence indicates his attorneys are likely to have real problems with the competency argument.  Trial judges are well aware of the fact that more than a few defendants have been known to fake incompetence.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 24, 2016, 11:53:14 pm
It warms my heart to see Golden State getting humbled.

Best team ever my ass.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dihard on May 27, 2016, 02:40:14 pm
http://www.si.com/vault/2009/03/23/105789480/how-and-why-athletes-go-broke?utm_source=pocket&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pockethits 

Interesting article on how many pro athletes end up broke within a year or two of retirement. 

• By the time they have been retired for two years, 78% of former NFL players have gone bankrupt or are under financial stress because of joblessness or divorce.

• Within five years of retirement, an estimated 60% of former NBA players are broke.

• Numerous retired MLB players have been similarly ruined, and the current economic crisis is taking a toll on some active players as well. Last month 10 current and former big leaguers--including outfielders Johnny Damon of the Yankees and Jacoby Ellsbury of the Red Sox and pitchers Mike Pelfrey of the Mets and Scott Eyre of the Phillies--discovered that at least some of their money is tied up in the $8 billion fraud allegedly perpetrated by Texas financier Robert Allen Stanford. Pelfrey told the New York Post that 99% of his fortune is frozen; Eyre admitted last month that he was broke, and the team quickly agreed to advance a portion of his $2 million salary.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: BearHit on May 27, 2016, 03:43:36 pm
If your daughter is the playmate of the month...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 30, 2016, 12:51:07 pm
http://www.si.com/vault/2009/03/23/105789480/how-and-why-athletes-go-broke?utm_source=pocket&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pockethits 

Interesting article on how many pro athletes end up broke within a year or two of retirement. 

• By the time they have been retired for two years, 78% of former NFL players have gone bankrupt or are under financial stress because of joblessness or divorce.

• Within five years of retirement, an estimated 60% of former NBA players are broke.

• Numerous retired MLB players have been similarly ruined, and the current economic crisis is taking a toll on some active players as well. Last month 10 current and former big leaguers--including outfielders Johnny Damon of the Yankees and Jacoby Ellsbury of the Red Sox and pitchers Mike Pelfrey of the Mets and Scott Eyre of the Phillies--discovered that at least some of their money is tied up in the $8 billion fraud allegedly perpetrated by Texas financier Robert Allen Stanford. Pelfrey told the New York Post that 99% of his fortune is frozen; Eyre admitted last month that he was broke, and the team quickly agreed to advance a portion of his $2 million salary.

This article is from March 2009.  Not saying it isn't informative or even relevant today but what made you wait over 7 years to post it? ;D

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 01, 2016, 04:53:25 pm
SuperFly Jimmy Snuka declared not competent to stand trial.

Good.

That man is no more of a threat to society than my basset hound Fred.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 03, 2016, 11:11:54 pm
Legendary sports figure and arguably the most famous boxer of all-time Muhammad Ali is in 'grave condition' according to sources at a Phoenix-area hospital. The 74-year old Ali was hospitalized yesterday, but on Friday his family joined him, as his condition was not improving. Ali has battled Parkinson's Disease for decades.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 03, 2016, 11:50:54 pm
He's gone.

Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2016, 12:44:56 am
Arguably?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 04, 2016, 01:40:01 am
I just copied and pasted it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 05, 2016, 12:11:36 pm
http://rare.us/story/how-the-trash-talking-muhammad-ali-we-loved-got-his-personality-from-an-old-pro-wrestler/

"I studied Gorgeous George and began doing his act better than he did it.”
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 07, 2016, 01:30:01 am
We've lost another ass whooping icon and this one way too soon.

Kimbo Slice has went to be with the Lord.

He was only 42.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 10, 2016, 10:19:09 am
(http://www.canadianhockeycards.com/images/Howe7172OPC262.jpg)


R.I.P.  Mr. Hockey -- Gordie Howe dead at 88 years old:

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2016/06/10/gordie-howe-dies/85688864/

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 22, 2016, 02:35:01 pm
Bulls just traded Rose to the Knicks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 22, 2016, 02:36:17 pm
What is the return?

I guess this means they are all in on the Durant train.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2016, 03:10:37 pm
Straight salary dump (those are the only trades GarPax ever seems to make).  Calderon, Jerian Grant and Robin Lopez (who's actually a decent role-player on a decent team).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 22, 2016, 03:17:14 pm
Shows just how low Rose's value has dipped.  Although I will always root for the kid it was probably time to move on.  In fact, I think the Bulls should try to lasso Wiggins from Minn for Butler and do a true rebuild.  Suck for 3 years while Lebron ages and be ready with a good young nucleus.  Unfortunately the guys making the decisions have no clue how to win in the new NBA.  They still think slow high character guys are all the rage. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2016, 03:42:39 pm
I would take Wiggins and the #5 for Butler in a heartbeat.  But I don't think Minnesota would offer it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 22, 2016, 05:01:58 pm
It was probably time to move on from Rose while he's healthy.

He was a true homegrown stud but unfortunately I dont think he's ever gonna be that D. Rose again.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 22, 2016, 05:11:53 pm
Curt or whoever else cares...

Im going to a Ring Of Honor PPV in Charlotte Friday night and Saturday Im going to a wrestling convention to see Ricky Steamboat, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, and the limousine ridin, jet flyin, rolex wearin, kiss stealin, wheelin, dealin, 16 time world heavyweight champion and the greatest heel of all time The Nature Boy Ric Flair.

It'll be a good weekend.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 22, 2016, 10:48:00 pm
Have fun, Dusty.  Get me an autograph or two.

Who's big in ROH these days?  I catch them on tv here occasionally but not recently.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 22, 2016, 10:51:29 pm
Why don't the Bulls trade Butler and rebuild?  They seem to be caught in the too good to suck, to bad to compete.  Grant seems to fit what Hoiberg wants to do a lot better than the triangle, so he might surprise.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 22, 2016, 11:28:08 pm
For Dusty  http://pwinsider.com/article/102905/two-stars-departing-ring-of-honor.html?p=1
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 23, 2016, 03:02:13 am
Curt...

Jim Ross said if you want to make it to WWE you need to focus on making it to ROH first.

Its just a stepping stone. These guys are by no means rich.

They're just trying to make it to the big time.

Most all of WWE's good young guys were signed from ROH (Bryan, Rollins, Cesaro, Styles, Punk, Steen, Zayn, Anderson, Gallows).
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 23, 2016, 08:10:46 pm
Wow - Denzel Valentine?  The Bulls organization really has become a sad joke.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2016, 08:11:33 pm
Been that way for a while. Valentine will replace Butler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 23, 2016, 09:57:30 pm
Why don't the Bulls trade Butler and rebuild?  They seem to be caught in the too good to suck, to bad to compete.

Have you not caught onto the pattern for a reinsdorf team yet?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on June 24, 2016, 06:02:31 pm
Curt or whoever else cares...

Im going to a Ring Of Honor PPV in Charlotte Friday night and Saturday Im going to a wrestling convention to see Ricky Steamboat, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, and the limousine ridin, jet flyin, rolex wearin, kiss stealin, wheelin, dealin, 16 time world heavyweight champion and the greatest heel of all time The Nature Boy Ric Flair.

It'll be a good weekend.

My 5 year old would be insanely jealous.  Big Cena fan.  I've tried explaining to him the unique "art" of professional wrestling, but he still takes things personally when something he doesn't like happens.  So funny. Gets from his mom tho, not me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 25, 2016, 12:59:52 am
I was exactly the same way when I was a kid.

I remember crying a few times over outcomes I didnt like.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2016, 12:39:27 am
Word from the UT boards is that it's not looking good for Pat Summitt and that she likely wont make it through the night.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2016, 05:20:49 pm
I have a guilty conscience so I must say this.

As a Christian man Im not allowed to hate anyone and I honestly dont.

As a sports fan we use that word freely even though we dont really have a reason to hate them.

Now to the point at hand.

I dont really hate Pat Summitt and as you may imagine east Tennessee is abuzz with talk about her as we speak.

I said a prayer for her and her family last night and one person after another today has said they expected me to say awful things about her and I havent.

I guess you get the hint.

Word is she's in her final hours.

God bless her and her family.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on June 26, 2016, 07:32:29 pm
I bet that prayer made a big difference.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 26, 2016, 07:41:31 pm
I bet that prayer made a big difference.

It made DUSTY feel better about himself.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2016, 08:12:10 pm
Looks like I SHOULD pray for you two as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 26, 2016, 08:22:32 pm
Looks like I SHOULD pray for you two as well.

Yeah, you could hope it would be as effective.  Go right ahead and try.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2016, 08:26:12 pm
Not quite.

Whatever fate you get handed Im sure you'll deserve every bit of.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 26, 2016, 08:30:05 pm
I don't know, DUSTY, I don't think I have deserved encountering you here.... and yet it happened.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2016, 08:36:25 pm
Me and MOST everyone here feel exactly the same way about you.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on June 26, 2016, 08:47:25 pm
Not quite.

Whatever fate you get handed Im sure you'll deserve every bit of.

Our fates are all the same. No prayers will ever change that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 26, 2016, 08:56:32 pm
We will have to agree to disagree.

Im not a bible thumper in any sense of the word but I am a Christian man that holds his beliefs very close to him and no one will change that.

Ive found that most people who dont believe only dont because they have too much pride to humble themselves to something yet when things get bad they're quick to turn to prayer.

If you're tough enough to get through life without it you're tougher than I am and Im not one bit ashamed to admit it.

And Jes you're a lost cause that Im smart enough to ignore.

I give up.

You win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on June 26, 2016, 09:04:58 pm
Whatever, I'm not interested in changing your beliefs. Just don't look too closely at them if you want to keep them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 26, 2016, 09:20:56 pm
Im not a bible thumper in any sense of the word but I am a Christian man that holds his beliefs very close to him and no one will change that.

"My mind is made up.  Don't confuse me with the facts."  The immortal Charles Sandman.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 26, 2016, 11:46:00 pm
Dusty you keep on praying.  Many here other than these two believe there is a God on the other end listening. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 27, 2016, 12:06:37 am
Thanks Robb and I have every intention to.

You're a good man.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 27, 2016, 12:53:40 am
Wrong board
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on June 27, 2016, 12:05:41 pm
It made DUSTY feel better about himself.
I'm praying for the clients that Jes purposely screwed over
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 27, 2016, 03:42:50 pm
He was attacked here so I make no apologies.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 27, 2016, 05:05:27 pm
http://tennessee.247sports.com/Bolt/Pastor-says-Summitts-death-imminent-46004325
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 27, 2016, 07:38:01 pm
He was attacked here so I make no apologies.

Except there was no attack.

I'm praying for the clients that Jes purposely screwed over

And no clients were purposely screwed over, but when your mind is made up, don't let yourself be confused with the facts.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 27, 2016, 08:51:53 pm
What you and I call an attack is far different.  And I refuse to get into a definition war with you so drop it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 27, 2016, 09:08:10 pm
http://tennessee.247sports.com/Bolt/Pastor-says-Summitts-death-imminent-46004325

DUSTY's prayers are answered.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 27, 2016, 09:45:34 pm
Seriously guys, take it outside.  None of this has anything to do with sports.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 27, 2016, 10:06:31 pm
God bless you Jes.

You're back on ignore and Ill never respond to you again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on June 28, 2016, 07:09:59 am
God bless you Jes.

You're back on ignore and Ill never respond to you again.

Never respond again?  There is a god!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AZSteve on June 28, 2016, 09:05:33 am
Seriously guys, take it outside.  None of this has anything to do with sports.
Amen
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 28, 2016, 09:49:25 am
She's dead.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 03, 2016, 08:01:42 pm
The Bulls are now run like the Sacramento Kings.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 03, 2016, 08:47:02 pm
What a stupid signing
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 04, 2016, 01:53:11 am
Not feeling Rajon Rondo?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on July 05, 2016, 12:14:49 pm
I would rather have Pau at $15M per instead of Rondo at close to the same amount...POOR move by the bulls
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 06, 2016, 08:19:12 pm
Bulls sign Dwyane Wade.

3/73

I like it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 06, 2016, 08:41:48 pm
Bulls should be able to grab that 6th seed in the East now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 06, 2016, 08:42:23 pm
This seems like an excellent plan to be competitive for the 8th playoff spot. This Bulls team makes very little sense.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 06, 2016, 08:56:16 pm
Supposedly this is part of a grand scheme to lure Westbrook next offseason.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on July 06, 2016, 09:12:09 pm
I'm sure this'll keep him out of LA.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 06, 2016, 09:19:33 pm
I'm now hearing 2/47, which wouldn't be such a bad contract.  We'll see what it turns out to be.

I don't think there's any doubt the recruit pitch next summer is a big part of this for the Bulls - Wade is tight with Paul and Griffin too.  That, and selling out again with a .500 team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on July 06, 2016, 09:41:14 pm
Calderon to the Lakers. Dunleavy to the Cavs. Will the Bulls have to include picks to unload them?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 06, 2016, 09:43:17 pm
Dunleavy is certainly worth $4.8m to a contender.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 06, 2016, 09:57:29 pm
K.C. Johnson ‏@KCJHoop  2m2 minutes ago
Bulls gave up no picks in either of the Dunleavy or Calderon trades, per source.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 06, 2016, 10:45:58 pm
I'm not sure exactly what the Bulls are doing, but at least they'll be watchable this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 06, 2016, 10:56:24 pm
Agree Robb.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on July 06, 2016, 11:27:24 pm
This is a move with an eye towards 2017.  I think the hope is GS wins the title.  Lebron leaves CLE and joins Wade and Butler in CHI with room for one more max Fa to battle Golden States core four.  Wade can be a good recruiter for FA.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 18, 2016, 11:47:35 pm
Well, that was certainly the most exciting game the Bulls played all season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 19, 2016, 08:05:51 am
Valentine didn't have much going and said his legs were dead tired after playing 7 games in 10 nights but what a clutch performance.  He hit the two biggest shots of the night.  I like the kid.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 19, 2016, 10:01:45 am
I have issues with selecting the least athletic wing in the draft on a team desperately in need of athleticism.  And the fact that Valentine no-showed the first half of nearly every game against weak competition is worrying.  But he should develop into a decent role player.  He does have good court vision and he's clearly got no fear.

Dinwiddie is a guy that impressed me.  He has a chance.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on July 19, 2016, 10:42:43 am
I too wish they had gone more athletic but Paxson doesn't draft that way.  He wasn't so he thinks that's the route to go. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on August 13, 2016, 05:56:16 pm
Shelley Smith ‏@ShelleyESPN  3h3 hours ago
The NFL has officially arrived in LA!! http://es.pn/2b20ZwT (http://es.pn/2b20ZwT)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpxA6BLUMAEVgb9.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on September 01, 2016, 08:48:45 pm
Is Tennessee really losing by 10 to Appalachian State?  In the 3rd quarter?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 01, 2016, 09:02:36 pm
Best team in the country every August...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 02, 2016, 11:56:11 am
I knew this was coming.

Lol

Ugliest win in UT history.

Like I told Dave a couple days ago they'll go as far as any team with a QB who cant throw.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 02, 2016, 12:22:10 pm
It's not just him...your O-line and D-line both suck...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 02, 2016, 01:27:09 pm
They looked unmotivated.

I thought the "D" did about as well as expected but the TOs and a totally inept offense made it a dogfight.

Remember that Ive never predicted any championships for this squad.

I could see them losing 4 games.

That's not a top 10 team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on September 10, 2016, 08:03:00 pm
Lyle Butch Jones isn't going to last long
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 24, 2016, 08:08:44 pm
Bout...damn...time.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on September 25, 2016, 09:42:15 pm

R.I.P.  "The King"


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/26/sports/golf/arnold-palmer-dies-at-87.html

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 26, 2016, 12:08:06 am
One reason why Arnold Palmer was known as "The King":  Everyone who ever wrote a fan letter to him received a personal reply.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on September 26, 2016, 01:07:16 am
That's almost surely urban folklore, but there's no question he was as good with his fans as any athlete in the modern era.  There have been many better golfers, but Arnie was the one that made golf the worldwide success it became.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 26, 2016, 02:33:01 am
Rest in peace Arnie.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 26, 2016, 08:38:22 am
That's almost surely urban folklore, but there's no question he was as good with his fans as any athlete in the modern era.  There have been many better golfers, but Arnie was the one that made golf the worldwide success it became.
Watch the three part series on Arnie's life that I'm sure Golf Channel will show again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 30, 2016, 11:51:20 am
The Americans have swept the Euros in the Ryder Cup Friday morning foursome matches 4-0. 

I can't imagine how they could allow any more fans onto Hazeltine National.  Even if you are not much of a golf fan, you should tune in to see some of the competition and listen to the crowds.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 02, 2016, 03:11:41 pm
Patrick Reed.  Wow!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 14, 2016, 08:46:14 pm
Looks like Bettman's salary cap has finally turned the Blackhawks into a subpar team. Congrats, Gary.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 15, 2016, 04:47:47 am
It's a bit early to make a judgment about the B'Hawks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 15, 2016, 05:42:49 am
Nope. Just watch them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 15, 2016, 09:09:21 am
I have.  They haven't been that bad.  Those were two tough opponents.  The Hawks probably would have beaten the Blues were it not for the penalties to the veterans.  The youngsters (particularly Motte, Hartman, and Forsling) have played pretty well.  The penalty kill needs to improve, but I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Post by: Chris27 on October 15, 2016, 02:15:12 pm
I have.  They haven't been that bad.  Those were two tough opponents.  The Hawks probably would have beaten the Blues were it not for the penalties to the veterans.  The youngsters (particularly Motte, Hartman, and Forsling) have played pretty well.  The penalty kill needs to improve, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

They've looked bad. Have generated no offense whatsoever. Their Corsi numbers have been frightening. Fact is, they've lost a ton over the last two years and had to replace it with average players or rookies. Not a recipe for success.
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Post by: goblue007 on October 15, 2016, 02:30:49 pm
Fortunately they've had a ton of that
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Post by: Playtwo on October 15, 2016, 03:39:54 pm
They have looked bad.  Doesn't mean that they will be bad.
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Post by: guest61 on October 16, 2016, 01:32:42 am
Bulls bout to trade Tony Snell for Michael Carter Williams.

They're gonna be better than people think.
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Post by: Deeg on October 16, 2016, 09:25:55 am
MCW is a better player than Snell for sure, but another guy who's a good player and bad fit. He's a guy who needs the ball and can't shoot from distance, and we already have a bunch of those.
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Post by: guest61 on October 20, 2016, 09:01:35 pm
Quick question from a weekend hacker golfer.

I had a Cobra ss350 offset driver that I could hit a ton and hit straight.

I decided I wanted to upgrade and bought a Cobra Bio Cell.

The Bio Cell is adjustable and has a draw setting.

If I set it to the draw setting is that the same as it being offset?
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Post by: AZSteve on October 21, 2016, 08:32:04 am
Quick question from a weekend hacker golfer.

I had a Cobra ss350 offset driver that I could hit a ton and hit straight.

I decided I wanted to upgrade and bought a Cobra Bio Cell.

The Bio Cell is adjustable and has a draw setting.

If I set it to the draw setting is that the same as it being offset?
Hope this helps Dusty
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Post by: guest61 on October 21, 2016, 09:02:58 am
What helps?
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Post by: JBN on October 29, 2016, 08:58:04 pm
It's only the 2nd game of the season. But the Bulls have looked better without Rose and Noah on the court.

They are crushing the Pacers.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 04, 2016, 11:35:38 pm
The Bulls not only managed to get clobbered at home by the hapless Knicks, they made Rose and Noah look great in the process.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 05, 2016, 09:51:08 am
The Bulls have been up and down so far.  I'm guessing they'll sneak into the playoffs, but it's far from a certainty.  Some of the bench players have played well in stretches.  If that becomes more consistent, they could have a pretty decent year and be entertaining.  If not, ..........
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Post by: Chris27 on November 05, 2016, 02:49:36 pm
If they can't get into the playoffs in the East....
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Post by: grrrrlacher on November 05, 2016, 04:18:06 pm
Now that the Cubs are done for the year I can turn my attention to the Blackhawks.  After a rough start and truly awful PK, they are back on top of their division.  Looking better.
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Post by: AZSteve on November 05, 2016, 07:47:00 pm
Yeah it appears they have overcome the shakey start...Definitely Blackhawks all the way for me as well
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Post by: Chris27 on November 05, 2016, 08:03:01 pm
Bulls are not good to put it kindly. Hawks maybe above average. Their results have far exceeded their level of play so far. Very little depth or speed anymore.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 05, 2016, 08:09:47 pm
I'd say the B'Hawks have excellent depth defensively.  They are short up front and relying on the progress of their young forwards.  It's too early to make a judgment about how that's likely to turn out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 05, 2016, 10:03:45 pm
The puck control and shot attempt numbers are dreadful and the Hawks have played one of the easiest schedules so far. Haven't seen much that indicates long-term success.
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Post by: Ray on November 05, 2016, 10:36:20 pm
Those are actually almost glowing reports on Bulls and hawks, considering the author.  Need to watch Bulls game soon.  Haven't been paying any attention to them at all this year with the ways cubs been playing 
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Post by: Deeg on November 18, 2016, 12:02:02 am
All of a sudden Hoiberg doesn't look like an idiot anymore.
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Post by: Exile236 on November 18, 2016, 12:27:18 pm
All of a sudden Hoiberg doesn't look like an idiot anymore.

Credit Player-Coach Wade there.
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Post by: Deeg on November 18, 2016, 12:30:17 pm
Or perhaps Hoiberg was always a pretty good coach, and just needed a chance to put his stamp on the locker room.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 18, 2016, 12:39:59 pm
The Bulls have done surprisingly well so far.  But they were lucky last night.  Utah was shorthanded and shot atrociously.  Also, credit the Bulls with playing good defense and having just enough offense to win.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 18, 2016, 02:19:48 pm
The Bulls were shorthanded too.  No Rondo, no MCW, no McDermott.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 18, 2016, 02:34:46 pm
Robin Lopez and Taj seem to work well together.
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Post by: Deeg on November 18, 2016, 02:36:11 pm
Lopez may be the MVP so far. He's playing like Noah before Noah sucked.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 18, 2016, 08:16:28 pm
No Rondo is a plus. He's been atrocious. Butler should be top 5 MVP early on.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 21, 2016, 02:16:40 am
Butler should be top 5 MVP early on.

Amending that to top 3.
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Post by: JBN on November 21, 2016, 06:40:10 am
Blackhawks are 13-4-2 with 28 points and second best record in the NHL.  But a longs way to go.

It doesn't matter how good or bad the Bulls are, Cavs will be in the finals. They blew a 19-point lead against the Clippers the other night and struggled last night against the Lakers. Seen this movie before.
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Post by: Playtwo on November 21, 2016, 08:11:04 am
I don't see the Bulls threatening the Cavs, but they are playing like a top 4 team in the East.  The formula is to make the playoffs with the highest seed possible and hope someone knocks off the Cavs before you get to them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 21, 2016, 10:13:02 am
I don't see the Bulls threatening the Cavs, but they are playing like a top 4 team in the East.  The formula is to make the playoffs with the highest seed possible and hope someone knocks off the Cavs before you get to them.

The problem is that athletic teams are going to run rings around the Bulls.  Even the Lakers did so - if they weren't so young and stupid they would have won that game easily.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 21, 2016, 10:19:42 am
Bulls defense biggest problems are defense and coaching. They both stink.  Offense hasn't been a real issue and it sure has been nice not seeing Rose shooting 6-24 a game and his stupid interviews.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 21, 2016, 10:35:17 am
Actually the Bulls' defense has been pretty good most of the time (and rival coaches have been pointing that out).  I think they were gassed last night.

With the roster they have and a 9-5 record, I certainly wouldn't identify coaching as one of their problems.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 22, 2016, 10:25:09 pm
The Bulls blow a 14-pt lead in Denver despite another great Butler performance. And on the last possession down two Hoiberg calls a play for Isaiah Cannan to shoot a three which he airballs. You have Butler and Wade, and Hoiberg decided a guy who had been on the bench for 10 minutes should take the important shot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 22, 2016, 10:36:30 pm
The refs took that game from the Bulls.  Horrible officiating.  Embarrassing.
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Post by: Chris27 on November 22, 2016, 10:47:36 pm
There were missed calls all game. The Bulls should've put away a bad, young team, yet Butler had to carry them to even give them a chance.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 23, 2016, 09:25:43 am
With the Bulls down a point Denver hit Jimmy so hard he traveled to keep from falling over.  Then the next possession down they call a ticky tack foul on Wade to ice it for Denver.  Absolutely ridiculous.  If you are going to swallow your whistle on one end you have to do the same on the other.  They also just watched as Wilson Chandler plowed into Jimmy before calling a timeout.  Any other time of the game and that is a charge.  Again no call.  All of this happened within about 30 seconds.  Those refs should forfeit their salary for that game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 23, 2016, 09:30:41 am
There were missed calls all game. The Bulls should've put away a bad, young team, yet Butler had to carry them to even give them a chance.
The Bulls are missing 2 key players and are not all that good.  Even their good teams haven't won in Denver for a decade.  Unless you have played in the NBA and especially in Denver, blanket statements like this are ignorant.  Winning an NBA game is hard.  Winning on the road is hard.  Winning at high elevation when you aren't used to it is hard.  Winning without 2 rotation players is hard.  The Bulls put themselves in position to win the game but the officials swallowing their whistle on one end and poor decision making snatched victory away. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on November 23, 2016, 11:21:14 am
The foul call on Lopez' block of Mudiay with a minute to go was awful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on November 23, 2016, 03:44:03 pm
Crappy defense and crappy coaching. The Bulls failure.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 23, 2016, 05:18:18 pm
The Bulls are missing 2 key players

Carter-Williams and McDermott?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on November 25, 2016, 11:55:17 am
Carter-Williams and McDermott?
Jordan and Pippen
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on November 25, 2016, 05:27:03 pm
Carter-Williams and McDermott?
Carter-Williams was providing a very nice boost off the bench before he got hurt and McDermott is their only real 3 point threat so yeah, they are missing 2 key pieces.  Would they be a key on a true championship roster?  Probably not, but no one is arguing that this is a championship roster.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 25, 2016, 09:00:20 pm
Worst team and worst coach in basketball completes third winning West Coast trip in the post-Jordan era. 10-6 despite having played most road games in the league at 11.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on November 26, 2016, 10:16:41 pm
Hahahahaha Dusty
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2016, 10:35:43 pm
UT deserved to lose.

In my 25+ years as a UT fan this has been the most unlikeable team I've ever watched.

When Vandy scored that last touchdown I looked at my wife and said "good".

Im not sure what exactly it is but it was awful hard to root for this team.

Could it be that we live in a world where we're not allowed to say bad things about minorities whether they suck or not and I'm force fed a shitty QB every week and have for 4 years?

Nah.

Surely not.

The team who deserved to win won.

Congrats Vandy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2016, 11:12:56 pm
I read a story several months ago that said the Cubs chase for a world series was the last great story in sports and as far as I'm concerned I agree.

As a UT, Bulls, Cubs, and 49ers fan I've now seen all of them win a championship in my lifetime (UT basketball and baseball don't count cause that's not even remotely realistic).

You all will love this but my grandpa was a no nonsense man and he used to say I was only smart about **** that would never make me a dime (meaning sports) so I won't say sports mean any less to me or I like them any less but now that the Cubs finally have won and I made it through this October where every other night was a flat out heart attack of a ballgame it's kinda hard to get stressed over a UT team that played with no heart all year and a ballgame tonight where there was nothing on the line.

The truth is being around you all here and seeing how you all rooted for the laughing stock of professional sports for 100+ years through thick and thin has really made me despise UT fans.

They are truly the worst fans in American sports and even though Ill die a UT fan it gives me some joy to see them have to eat a little **** tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 02, 2016, 10:58:26 pm
Nice bounce back by the Bulls tonight after losing to the Lakers.  Taj, Wade, and Rondo were all terrific.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 04, 2016, 06:39:46 pm
B'Hawks terrible so far in the first period.  They have only 2 SOG in 16 minutes.  Luckily, it's still scoreless.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 04, 2016, 08:24:39 pm
Worst game I have seen the B'Hawks play this season.  Darling has made saves on 3 breakaways and it's still only 1-0 with 10 minutes to go.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 05, 2016, 10:47:17 am
Ruh-roh:

K.C. Johnson ‏@KCJHoop 10m10 minutes ago

Bulls announce 1-game suspension for Rajon Rondo for conduct detrimental to team.
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Post by: Chris27 on December 05, 2016, 11:44:08 am
Well, the defense will improve for a game anyway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 05, 2016, 11:53:36 am
Rondo 2nd on the team in DBPM through 17 games.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 13, 2016, 09:27:59 pm
Bulls lose to 6-18 Minnesota after leading by 21 at home.

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Post by: JeffH on December 13, 2016, 10:22:36 pm
Blackhawks beat the Rangers on the road.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 14, 2016, 07:26:09 am
There is a lot to like about the B'Hawks.  Hartman, Hinostroza, and Motte have all made significant progress.  Van Riemsdyk has played well since his return- I like the way he pressed the offensive zone and buried a shot from the slot last night.  If they keep improving, they just might unexpectedly make a deep run this year.   
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Post by: jacey1 on December 14, 2016, 11:06:08 am
Hawks are playing fairly well right now, but still trying to find their identity. I feared they would be alot worse at this point in the season than they have shown so far. Lets hope they keep building on the good things this year and progress on an upswing heading into the last half of the season. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 15, 2016, 08:57:37 pm
The Fred Hoiberg era needs to end soon.

It's also safe to say this team is junk and should be in the lottery picks at seasons end.
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Post by: guest61 on December 15, 2016, 10:02:41 pm
I'm good with them on NBA 2K17.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 15, 2016, 11:05:51 pm
Yeah but I'm good with the Bears on Madden 17 as well.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 15, 2016, 11:34:43 pm
They not only need lottery picks, they need somebody else making them.   Foreman is a disaster as a GM and Paxson, his enabler needs to follow him right out the door.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 16, 2016, 05:09:26 pm
Yup. The franchise is done for. But the NBA is so boring these days it's really hard to watch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 16, 2016, 06:43:47 pm
I don't watch it like I used to.

I still love basketball but I like college more.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on December 16, 2016, 07:41:19 pm
The worst thing about the Bulls is that they're quitters. A few years ago they were renown for their effort, now they simply don't care.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 16, 2016, 10:18:52 pm
I am so glad I didn't spend the money on NBATV this year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on December 17, 2016, 09:07:34 am
http://www.secondcityhockey.com/2016/12/16/13987306/scott-darling-cubs-goalie-mask-winter-classic-blackhawks-vs-blues-busch-stadium
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on December 19, 2016, 04:57:50 am
The Bulls are slowly heading to the lottery.

The Blackhawks on other hand...what  a great weekend they had.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 19, 2016, 09:46:49 am
The Bulls should see what they could get for Wade at the deadline as well as Gibson.   
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Post by: Deeg on December 19, 2016, 09:55:10 am
C'mon, Robb - you know that won't happen with Wade.  Nor should it.

At this point, the most important game on the schedule for Bulls fans isn't their game, it's the Kings' game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 19, 2016, 01:14:44 pm
Why shouldn't it Deeg?
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Post by: Deeg on December 19, 2016, 01:44:13 pm
Why shouldn't it Deeg?

Wade signed that contract to come home and finish his career in Chicago.  To turn around and trade him in the middle of his first season would be a dick move.  If you burn down the house, liquidize everything else and start from the ground up with youth next season (which they certainly should, though it'll never happen as long as Paxson and his stooge are in charge) Wade can still have a role showing the kids how to play the game the right way.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on December 19, 2016, 02:42:34 pm
I understand the sentiment, but I don't know that Wade is committed to staying in Chicago the rest of his career.  He only inked a 1 year deal.  If he was serious about staying he would have signed for longer.  If there was an agreement that Wade would play out his career in Chicago then fine.  But I don't remember reading that anywhere.  Either way this team is seriously flawed, they are the most unathletic team in the NBA and the worst shooting team.  That they have won almost as many as they have lost is a miracle.  The problem is, they aren't bad enough to get a true impact talent in the draft at this point.  They need to get worse so they can get better.  What do McDermott, Portis and Valentine all have in common?  They were good players in college who excelled despite lack of athleticism.  How's that strategy working out so far? 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on December 19, 2016, 03:12:35 pm
He signed a two-year deal, not one. There's a player option but that's his option, if he chooses to exercise it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 31, 2016, 04:00:02 pm
Can someone explain to me how Rousey could go from being one of the most feared people in the world to someone who can't last a minute in the ring?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on December 31, 2016, 06:05:56 pm
She got soft.

Too busy being fine.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on December 31, 2016, 11:34:51 pm
Can someone explain to me how Rousey could go from being one of the most feared people in the world to someone who can't last a minute in the ring?

The competition in the women's ranks is improving fairly rapidly.  While becoming "soft" is the very easy explanation, as is often the case, when you look deeper, you are likely to find the easy explanation is far from complete (or at all accurate).

Rousey started to become a bit of a name in 2011 when she was 4-0 and booked a series of fights with then champion Miesha Tate.  Tate at the time was 18-6.  Their series of fights helped generate interest, ticket sales, boost broadcast viewership, and generally bring bigger paydays for top female fighters, all things which would tend to attract more female fighters and to increase how seriously existing fighters would train and dedicate themselves to fighting.

Since the two of them booked their series of fights, Tate has gone 7-12 (announcing her retirement last month) and Rousey has gone 8-2, losing both of her last two fights, one yesterday and the other 13 months ago. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on December 31, 2016, 11:48:45 pm
Thanks, Jes.  Don't be shocked. Yes, I read your response because I assumed you might be responding to me.  I appreciate it, because I know little of MMA, just that Rousey was a household word for awhile.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 02, 2017, 11:54:38 pm
For Jes: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2684865-the-question-was-ronda-rousey-ever-that-good-to-begin-with?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial#
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on January 14, 2017, 02:54:47 pm
Cletus, D23, JR...

What's more #Atlanta?

This morning Chipper Jones and his bride named their newborn "Cutler Ridge"

Or

the Falcons are hosting a bunch of rappers that banged Russell Wilson's wife, Ciara, on the sidelines for tonight's playoff game?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on January 14, 2017, 03:13:14 pm
When they bang her on the sidelines, will tv cover it?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on January 14, 2017, 03:50:59 pm
You'll be able to switch over to nfl tv channel for special coverage during the commercial breaks for those that wish to see it.  Supposedly there will be some live streams without blurry boxes too.   

Best part is we get to find out how well Russell can block out what's going on around him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on January 15, 2017, 08:19:04 pm
Superfly Jimmy Snuka has died.

He was 73.

Had a short little run in the early 80's but he'll be mostly remembered as a murderer who somehow got away with it.

I'm 35 and he was never really relevant in my lifetime.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on January 16, 2017, 09:40:34 am
Superfly Jimmy Snuka has died.
He was 73.
Had a short little run in the early 80's but he'll be mostly remembered as a murderer who somehow got away with it.

The victim's family sued him and got a civil judgment for half a million dollars.  He also was criminally charged and awaiting trial when the court dismissed the charges less than two weeks ago because he had been diagnosed with a terminal condition and given a very short time to live.

The delay in charges being brought was simply due to the inadequacy of the evidence, a problem the prosecution still would have had now if Snuka had lived and the case went to trial.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 18, 2017, 11:55:35 pm
Durant has 40 points on 16 shots against his old team tonight.  I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure that's good.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 26, 2017, 05:47:37 pm
If it even matters any more, the Bulls appear to be totally imploding.  Wade and Butler conspiring to call out the team, Rondo calling out Wade and Butler.  What a disaster.

GarPax are a f cking joke, that's for sure. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on January 26, 2017, 05:52:35 pm
I would love a total house cleaning including all management with only Butler remaining and perhaps not even that.  Gather draft picks, suck for 3 or 4 years and see what you can build as Lebron gets older.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 26, 2017, 05:58:28 pm
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 4m4 minutes ago

Rondo ends statement with, "The young guys work. They show up. They don't deserve blame. If anything is questionable, it's the leadership."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 26, 2017, 06:05:48 pm
And now Wade publicly rips into Rondo in an Instagram tirade.  This organization is a disgrace.

I don't know how seriously the young players in this organization take winning when the cameras are off and the doors shut.  But there's something about Wade and Butler getting together and then ripping a bunch of young players in the press that's pretty despicable.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 28, 2017, 09:08:27 pm
Curry and Durant have 49 points on 27 FGA in 48 minutes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on January 29, 2017, 11:55:57 am
My wife and I were at the Warrior game.  Great entertainment if not great competition.  Curry was just amazing, particularly in the third quarter.  And we were able to get home early. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 29, 2017, 01:04:23 pm
It's pretty much video game basketball for the Warriors at this point.  They're coasting at about 75% and still 40-7.  The question is always how well it holds up late in the playoffs, but having Durant around now certainly helps.

In other news - Federer-Nadal, wow.  You can't write a script like how this one turned out - no one would believe it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on January 29, 2017, 03:12:35 pm
In other news - Federer-Nadal, wow.  You can't write a script like how this one turned out - no one would believe it.

Yeah that was pretty amazing.  The one thing I don't understand, though, is that Federer somehow had something to prove to be considered the greatest tennis player ever.  The guy already had more Grand Slam championships than anyone by a relatively healthy margin.  With all due respect to Nadal, it doesn't matter that he has a better career record head to head against Federer . . . his overall resume just isn't quite there yet. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on January 29, 2017, 05:28:38 pm
I agree, Federer was the GOAT whatever happened here. But this pretty much cuts off even the opposing argument. If Nadal had won he might realistically have caught Fed in Slams (though I'd still have bet against him, and wouldn't count Djokovic out).

The only guy you can made a case for was also in-house today, and that's Rod Laver. Who knows how many he'd have won if he'd played in the Open Era his entire career?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on February 08, 2017, 12:13:41 pm
The GOAT would be Thomas Edward Patrick Brady, Jr.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on February 17, 2017, 11:26:10 pm
Associated Press  FEBRUARY 17, 2017 — 10:55PM

STAMFORD, Conn. — WWE Hall of Fame member George "The Animal" Steele, whose given name was Jim Myers, has died at age 79.

WWE announced Friday the death of Steele, who was living in Florida. The Detroit native had tweeted and blogged in recent months about his declining health. He dealt with the digestive disorder Crohn's disease for several years.

Sporting a bald head, hairy back and green tongue, Steele was famous for his signature move of sinking his teeth into the turnbuckle pads around the ring. At a Boston Red Sox game in 2012, he pretended to take a bite from the baseball before throwing out a ceremonial first pitch.

Steele was once a Detroit-area high school teacher and coach who received a master's degree from Central Michigan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 18, 2017, 01:59:55 am
I couldn't stand Steele when I was a kid but I do remember him fueding with Macho Man Randy Savage and eating the turnbuckles.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 22, 2017, 05:36:03 pm
I knew Ole Miss had to be cheating.

Them getting good as quick as they did without ever being good before had to be too good to be true.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 22, 2017, 08:34:23 pm
None of the new allegations had anything to do with the Tunsil/Treadwell/Nkemdiche class...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 22, 2017, 08:35:10 pm
Anyone else who recruited Leo Lewis should be sweating, though...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 22, 2017, 09:11:56 pm
I'm just playing with you Dave.

All SEC teams cheat to some extent I'm sure.

All of the good ones anyway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 22, 2017, 10:15:49 pm
They all do.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on February 22, 2017, 10:17:19 pm
If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 23, 2017, 01:54:51 pm
I can only assume at this point GarPax are in the late stages of Mad Cow disease.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on February 23, 2017, 02:23:55 pm
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/bulls-trade-mcdermott-gibson-to-thunder-report-414642303.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 23, 2017, 02:44:27 pm
So the Bulls are shooting to be a 8 seed contender.  I will enjoy when they give Chris Bosh a ton of money because it is apparently 2010.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on February 23, 2017, 02:53:31 pm
You're giving the Bulls' FO too much credit believing they are "shooting" for anything. It's like 5-year-olds run the team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on February 23, 2017, 02:57:08 pm
Morrow could be useful if he remembers how to shoot.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on February 23, 2017, 04:27:34 pm
It makes one wonder what it would take for GarPax to be fired? They are an embarrassment, their draft picks have been crap ever since what's his name left for Orlando. Hoiberg was a horrible hiring. Two draft picks to move up to get Doug McDermott so you can package him with Gibson and get three nobodies. LOL Maybe the Bulls should hire Ed Lynch
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on February 23, 2017, 06:32:50 pm
Sounds like both Brooklyn picks were in play but Bulks didn't want to rebuild.  Stupid.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on February 23, 2017, 06:57:03 pm
I heard Danny put this year's NJ pick on the table for George, but not Butler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on February 23, 2017, 07:01:17 pm
Woj reported both but hadn't reached discussions on whether there would be protections.  KC johnson says Celtics wanted protections. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on February 23, 2017, 07:26:50 pm
Cutting the Bears and Bulls from my life seems to be a good choice.

Without trading Butler them seem content being a middle pack team and cashing in on an old Wade. The PG they acquire don't seem to fit with Butler and the entire team doesn't fit with Hoiberg. I'll go back to not caring until the draft.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on February 23, 2017, 07:59:13 pm
Dave, I'm watching a little bit of Memphis and Cincinnati tonight.  Can't say I've followed college basketball super closely this year.

But why doesn't Memphis recruit in Memphis anymore?  Or at least it doesn't seem like it?  I was just taking a look at their last few recruiting classes, and maybe two of them are from the Memphis area. 
Title: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on February 23, 2017, 08:24:14 pm
There's a lot of politics involved. Many HS coaches began steering their best players away while Pastner was here, as well as to get away from their so-called "posses" that did nothing more than bring them down.

Of course, Pastner hired Keelon Lawson to get Dedric and KJ here, and hopefully their little brother, who they say is better than both of them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 12, 2017, 05:06:39 pm
History is officially made - congrats, Northwestern.  That's not a terrible draw for them, either.

Michigan, meanwhile, got totally screwed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on March 13, 2017, 06:51:11 pm
Softball umpire's horrendous call caught on video goes viral

http://usatodayhss.com/2017/bad-call-softball-alabama-fultondale-viral-video

You have to see the call to believe it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on March 13, 2017, 06:55:21 pm
I guess we now know how Jim Joyce is spending his time in retirement.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on March 13, 2017, 06:57:21 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zXDo4dL7SU
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 13, 2017, 09:45:10 pm
Some here would have you believe MLB umps are that bad.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on March 16, 2017, 05:49:04 pm
Pretty sweet seeing Doug Collins and Elaine Benes in the stands weeping after Northwestern pulled that one out.

Shame it had to end with an inexplicable brain freeze by Vandy, though...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on March 16, 2017, 08:16:24 pm
LMFAO

Couldn't happen to a more deserving clan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on March 19, 2017, 01:33:27 pm
Back in the Sweet 16. Suck it Louisville
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on March 20, 2017, 04:32:20 pm
Former 49ers wide receiver Dwight Clark has Lou Gehrig's disease.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/former-49ers-great-dwight-clark-says-he-has-als-suspects-football-caused-it/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on March 30, 2017, 09:28:13 pm
Great story on the life and death of former Vandy pitcher Donnie Everett...this is a great read!

http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/born-to-be-a-vandyboy/#MQX7zcAcegfZmp2t.97
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 02, 2017, 02:30:18 pm
Time to retire Bro...

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19059187/new-york-knicks-derrick-rose-season-torn-left-meniscus
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on April 02, 2017, 03:57:56 pm
He is going to sucker some team into a 3 year contract this off-season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 03, 2017, 08:12:26 am
At least major league umpires aren't as bad as golf officials.

http://deadspin.com/tv-viewer-snitches-on-lexi-thompson-costs-her-a-major-1793951326
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 03, 2017, 12:15:39 pm
The problem, I would argue, is not with golf officials but golf rules.  Which are stupid in many instances, including this one.  The officials enforced the rule as written.

If a player incorrectly marks the ball, I don't have a problem with the 2-stroke penalty.  It is what it is.  My problem is with penalizing a player for incorrectly signing a scorecard when THE SCORECARD WAS CORRECT WHEN THEY SIGNED IT.  It was the LPGA's error in not catching this before she signed the Saturday card, not Thompson's.  Why the f uck should she be penalized an extra two strokes for THEIR mistake?

I also have a problem with the officials telling the player in the middle of their round, which is a huge emotional blow.  They did the same thing to Dustin Johnson at the U.S. Open last year, but at least it was in the middle of the same round.  The problem there was they didn't decide whether to assess the penalty until after the round was complete - which meant all the players in contention (including Johnson) had no idea what the leaderboard was.  And that dramatically impacts the way you would play the final holes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 03, 2017, 03:26:22 pm
At least major league umpires aren't as bad as golf officials.

http://deadspin.com/tv-viewer-snitches-on-lexi-thompson-costs-her-a-major-1793951326

Watch the video provided in that article.  What Lexi did used to be an automatic DQ.  It still should be.  Whether intentional or not, she changed the line of her putt.

 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on April 03, 2017, 04:02:01 pm
My only problem with the original penalty is when it was assessed.  The next day is way beyond anyone's definition of reasonable.  As far as signing an incorrect scorecard goes, that is being penalized twice for the same infraction.

This is not at all like what happened to Craig Stadler a number of years ago.  The Walrus was going to play a shot from his knees and put a towel down to keep his pants clean.  A viewer called in and said he was unfairly building a stance.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 03, 2017, 04:09:35 pm
These are some motherfockers who take the game way too seriously.

The type of cats you see at the golf course and want to smack.

To quote the greatest golf movie ever "It's just a game Bagger".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 03, 2017, 04:22:09 pm
They really need to address this. Nobody I know likes the outcome the way it is. Perhaps they should have one rules official per group whose job it is to catch this stuff. If they sign the scorecard then it is official. No more of this BS where a fan calls in and affects the outcome of a major. And by the way, missing the spot by an inch on a gimme putt has no bearing on the tournament whatsoever. And to whoever felt the need to call in the "infraction" you are an idiot. She lost the major and $150,000 because of that idiot and the dumb rules that encouraged them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 03, 2017, 04:34:33 pm
I guess the 2019 rules of golf will eliminate much of this crap but I don't get why they have to wait so long. It's like those belly putters. They let people use them for 2 or 3 years after deciding to get rid of them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 03, 2017, 05:42:34 pm
Everybody knows you can pick it up if it's within putter length anyway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 04, 2017, 12:12:28 am
They could never afford to have someone like that with every group.  If they need to use viewers as observers, so be it.  But once a scorecard is signed, that should be it - if a mistake was made, oh well.  None of this next day BS.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on April 17, 2017, 11:28:31 pm
Hawks blew their 2-0 lead.  Good grief,  I'm going to bed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 18, 2017, 10:15:36 pm
How about those Bulls!!!  C'mon, man - if you rip 'em when they're bad you have to praise them when they're good.  And this 2-0 is no fluke - if you watched these two games you knows they've been the much better team.  Rondo has played like his vintage best and it's been a great team performance.

Long way to go, obviously.  But these have been two fantastic efforts by this team.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 18, 2017, 10:30:02 pm
I just came here to post the same.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on April 18, 2017, 10:34:26 pm
I only wish Toronto were on our side of the draw.  We own their asses.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 19, 2017, 09:58:35 am
It's great to see the Bulls playing so well.  Rondo, Butler, and Lopez have been terrific.  I hope they can keep it up.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 19, 2017, 12:19:10 pm
Damn. Cant believe nobody has posted this...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/aaron-hernandez-agent-isnt-convinced-suicide-least-one-person-might-agree-142229813.html

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on April 19, 2017, 12:23:05 pm
I thought the same thing this morning, Dusty.  Getting acquitted of that double homicide may have given somebody the idea to be judge and jury.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on April 19, 2017, 01:43:16 pm
He was already serving a live sentence without possibility of parole. if convicted, he'd be serving 2 of them.  Why off him?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on April 19, 2017, 02:13:45 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/19/us/aaron-hernandez-conviction-abatement/index.html

He has a young daughter right? if this is true... he might have done this to effectively get his estate out of the governments/wrongful death lawsuit.. and into his kids hands.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on April 19, 2017, 02:19:52 pm
This ^^^
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 19, 2017, 07:39:34 pm
Well...

Kinda shows there was some good in him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 19, 2017, 07:54:18 pm
Hernandez was broke...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/much-money-did-aaron-hernandez-162722172.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 20, 2017, 09:51:08 pm
(http://logodatabases.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/nashville-predator-alternate-logo-1024x768.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 20, 2017, 10:10:19 pm
Sorry about rubbing it in, but after years and years of getting our asses kicked by the Blackhawks and having our arena serve as United Center South for a long time, tonight is a pretty sweet feeling.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 21, 2017, 06:31:14 pm
Bulls reverting back to norm tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on April 21, 2017, 07:09:16 pm
Terrible luck losing Rondo just when he was playing so well.  You expect them to lose like dogs without him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 21, 2017, 07:13:30 pm
This is like watching two old guys fight over a dinner roll. The Celtics may be the worst #1 seed in history and the Bulls wouldn't make the playoffs in a decent conference.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on April 23, 2017, 06:16:31 pm
Hard to believe that four years ago the Bulls were fun to watch and looked like they were going to be title contenders for a decade.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on April 27, 2017, 09:09:39 pm
So how's the Bears board reacting to Mitch Trubisky?  Looks like Bears fans in general are excited.


http://deadspin.com/bears-trade-up-to-take-mitchell-trubisky-with-second-pi-1794726284
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dihard on April 27, 2017, 09:52:26 pm
Most of them are dumbfounded and pissed, but some praising the gutsy move to go after a potential franchise quarterback. Sure seems like a lot to give up to me, to move up one damn spot! Even if your guy was gone, there were plenty of great consolation prizes


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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on April 27, 2017, 10:01:27 pm
I really wonder if Fox/Pace will be around to see what Trubisky becomes. My hope is the offer Harbaugh complete control after next year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on April 27, 2017, 10:21:18 pm
Harbaugh wouldn't leave Michigan for the Bears.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on April 27, 2017, 10:33:26 pm
I don't think Jim loves college or being stuck behind Urban.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on May 09, 2017, 08:20:29 pm
Hernandez was broke...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/much-money-did-aaron-hernandez-162722172.html

ok... so how is he broke, and writing to his wifey telling her she is rich...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 09, 2017, 08:52:25 pm
So method, you're shocked to hear that perhaps Aaron Hernandez was not a pillar of virtues and morals?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 09, 2017, 09:05:25 pm
A quirk in Massachusetts law.  Since he died while his appeal was in process, his conviction will be vacated and his assets will be released.  From what I've read, the assets are zippo nonetheless.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on May 09, 2017, 09:09:40 pm
So method, you're shocked to hear that perhaps Aaron Hernandez was not a pillar of virtues and morals?

JR, i have not said anything of the sort... dont think any of my comments ascribe morality or virtue to his behavior.

I am just confused... his letter to his wife states that she is "Rich now", yet his estate was penniless.. so how does that work?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 09, 2017, 09:47:43 pm
I think he was probably lying to his fiancée when he wrote that in the letter ... which at least qualifies as not the worst thing he did while he was still roaming the earth.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on May 10, 2017, 10:57:31 am
Another thing I heard was that the conviction gets thrown out and the Patriots would be on the hook for some guaranteed money from his contract that was voided with his release for killing people.  I have zero clue if this is true.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 10, 2017, 04:39:57 pm
http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2017/05/09/aaron-hernandez-unlikely-to-recover-millions-from-patriots-nfl-expert.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 22, 2017, 10:42:38 pm
PREDS!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 22, 2017, 10:44:13 pm
In the last eight months, the Cubs have won the World Series and the Predators are in the Stanley Cup Final.  Not sure when pigs started flying, but it's been a really fun last fun last year and a half in sports for me.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on May 22, 2017, 11:01:25 pm
Hope you're not equating those two things.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 22, 2017, 11:11:51 pm
Compared to Cubs, Predators are far superior in what they've accomplished, because they really really suck.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on May 29, 2017, 01:27:31 pm
In my lifetime I've never seen such a sudden,sports related, fall from grace...

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/tiger-woods-arrested-early-monday-dui-charges-florida-154440049.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on May 29, 2017, 09:48:50 pm
Sudden??
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on May 30, 2017, 04:22:32 pm
JR, can you explain the significance of the catfish?  http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/19497492/nashville-predators-fan-jacob-waddell-charged-throwing-catfish-ice
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on May 31, 2017, 08:33:18 am
JR, can you explain the significance of the catfish?  http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/19497492/nashville-predators-fan-jacob-waddell-charged-throwing-catfish-ice (http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/19497492/nashville-predators-fan-jacob-waddell-charged-throwing-catfish-ice)

I have to admit, I'm not sure where the catfish originates from either, other than it's our response to what Red Wings fans do in the postseason with octopuses.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on June 05, 2017, 11:42:59 pm
Looks like JR is starting fights again...or maybe it was Dusty.  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2713648-video-appears-to-show-rex-rob-ryan-involved-in-bar-fight-in-nashville?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 13, 2017, 08:11:25 pm
There's never been a son of a **** in sports that I dislike more than this crybaby...

https://sports.yahoo.com/lebron-james-said-dont-believe-ive-played-super-team-funny-184625120.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 18, 2017, 07:17:38 pm
Fox put this Bobby Jones quote on the screen midway through the fourth round of the U.S. Open: "Nobody ever wins an Open. Everybody else just loses it."

That is certainly not the way it worked today.  Nobody came close to the way Brooks Keopka played today.  Wow.

I’d give Fox a C- for their golf coverage.  There were too many times the cameras lost a ball in flight and didn’t find it when it landed near a green. 

If I played at 8,000 feet maybe I could relate to players reaching a 681 yard par 5 with a drive and an iron.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2017, 07:32:44 pm
Fox was terrible. Their tagline for the U.S. Open seems to be "while we were away".

No doubt, Koepka played great. But Erin Hills didn't remotely play like a US Open course. That's why the leaderboard looked like a tour event and not a major.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: ben on June 18, 2017, 08:39:01 pm
Erin Hills didn't play like a typical US Open course because of the soft conditions due to rain and lack of wind (until today).

It's amazing, but even 7,800-yard courses - when soft - give those guys the opportunity to go low....which is almost ridiculous.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2017, 11:02:56 pm
It had 15-20 MPH winds all day today, and most of the leaders still came in under par.  It's just not an Open course.

When you see this event played at places like Oakmont and Merion, the cream rises to the top and the Sunday leadeerboard is packed with great players because it's a great test of golf.  Wind or no wind, Erin Hills - while beautiful - simply isn't that kind of crucible.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 18, 2017, 11:28:51 pm
I don't know about saying great players weren't in contention.  The leaderboard most of the day today had the #4 (Matsuyama), #9 (Fowler), #13 (Thomas), #22 (Koepka), #33 (Fleetwood), and #50 (Harman) players in the world hovering around most of the day, with the #22 guy winning it.  There wasn't anyone contending today who would have been a completely fluke winner, not even Harman who was playing well heading into the tournament.  Matsuyama is now #2 in the world after today's tournament, and if that doesn't establish yourself as a star in your particular sport, I don't know what does. 

The days of Tiger, Phil, and Ernie are over, and golf hasn't really been able to establish superstars yet to replace them who transcend the entire sports world.  A little bit of the problem golf is having is that the "great" players of this generation haven't really established themselves yet.  We'll be hearing plenty more from guys like Matsuyama, Fowler, and Thomas before long, and Koepka is probably not going to be looking like a fluke winner before his career is over.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 18, 2017, 11:54:08 pm
Sorry, but that was a standard tour event leaderboard.  The top 3 guys missed the cut, and most the first page were basically target golf specialists.

The more difficult the course, the more mediocre players are eliminated before the week even starts.  The more fair the course, the more the best shotmakers rise to the top.  The PGA seems to have an obsession with gimmick courses lately - would anyone argue Chambers Bay wasn't a debacle?  And even that was a better test of golf than this.  At least when Rory won at Congressional at 16-under, he smoked the field by 8 shots - and the best player in the world won (which he certainly was at that time).  Here, 7 guys broke -10 and 27 broke par.  We see target golf 90% of the time on the U.S. tour - why do we need to see it the one week of the year these guys should face a U.S. Open challenge?

I'm also not quite sure why the USGA seems to enamored with links courses these days.  The British is played on a links almost all the time - most of the courses in the rota are true links courses.  When Americans try and do a links course it always ends up being a sort of hybrid that doesn't really work as a links or a standard course.  Chambers Bay had everything but Lincoln's mouth.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 19, 2017, 12:43:43 am
I think if Matsuyama's -12 under had held up like it looked like it had a reasonable chance of doing before Koepka took control, we wouldn't be talking about the quality of the leaderboard.  We'd be talking about Matsuyama joining Day, Rory, and Spieth as one the elite players in golf for the next few years.  The quality of the leaderboard was fine.  It just reflects that golf is still transitioning from the days of Tiger and Phil.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on June 19, 2017, 12:44:25 am
By the way, I'd like to wish JeffH the best of luck in his upcoming fight against Manny Pacquiao.  I think he's going to need it.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/19665086/manny-pacquiao-jeff-horn-fight-air-live-espn-july-1

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 19, 2017, 12:58:08 am
Matt Kuchar's caddy, Joe Wood:

Quote
"I will say this as a caddie, and as someone who watched the shootout on Saturday: I've never seen or experienced a U.S. Open without fear until this week. Fear that a good shot would be repelled by a rock-hard green. Fear that a good drive would roll out just one yard too far on a firm fairway into five-inch thick, heavy, hackout rough. Notice I said "good" shot. Not "great," not "perfect," but good. U.S. Opens to me have always demanded great. They've always demanded as close to perfect as possible. No matter how well you were playing, swinging, thinking, and controlling your emotions, there always existed that fear in the back of your brain that this shot, that any shot, could spell disaster. That didn't exist this week. There was no fear."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 19, 2017, 12:58:24 am
"Oops, that was the last one"  It was nice that, thanks to Paul Azinger, Fox was able to correct Brooks Koepka's girlfriend's name.

Did Keopka forget anybody when he thanked his caddy, his nutritionist, his swing coach, his "attitude" coach, and his agent?

At least Fox did present the last half hour or so commercial free.

Azinger and Brad Faxon carried on the discussion of which wind direction was favored by a righty or a lefty way too long.



Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 19, 2017, 01:00:44 am
John Sens, Golf Magazine:

Quote
"As many players said, it was just too much grip it and rip it to feel like a proper national championship".


Jeff Ritter, S.I.:
Quote
"My lingering question is, Was it wise to stage the so-called toughest test in golf at a course where weather was absolutely necessary to create that scenario (fear)?"
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JeffH on June 19, 2017, 07:20:43 am
By the way, I'd like to wish JeffH the best of luck in his upcoming fight against Manny Pacquiao.  I think he's going to need it.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/19665086/manny-pacquiao-jeff-horn-fight-air-live-espn-july-1

Thanks, Bro!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on June 19, 2017, 09:18:54 am
3 of the top 7 and 8 of the top 27 finishers at the U.S. Open were members of the 2016 U.S. Ryder Cup team - Brooks Keopka, Bill Haas, Ricky Fowler, Brandt Snedeker, Patrick Reed, Matt Kuchar, Jim Furyk, and Zach Johnson.  Not exactly a bunch of journeyman nobodies.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 19, 2017, 09:58:21 am
No one ever said journeyman nobodies. They're great flag-hunters - that's why they make the Ryder Cup team, which is chosen mostly by a points system based on how well guys perform weekly in PGA Tour events staged on target golf courses like Erin Hills.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 19, 2017, 04:06:03 pm
 Nick Friedell Retweeted
Marc Stein‏Verified account @ESPNSteinLine 2m2 minutes ago

The Cavaliers, per league sources, have been working today on assembling multi-team trade scenarios to try to acquire Chicago's Jimmy Butler
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2017, 06:45:04 pm
Butler to the Thibs for Dunn, Lavine and the #7 pick.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2017, 06:45:54 pm
Is there a worse run organization in sports than the Bulls?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2017, 06:47:03 pm
Seriously, do Paxson and Foreman have compromising pics of Reinsdorf?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2017, 06:50:22 pm
The Bulls trade one of the best players in the game who had multiple years left on a team-friendly contract, plus the 16th pick in the draft, for #7, flop Kris Dunn, and recent ACL sufferer Zach Levine.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2017, 06:51:48 pm
I don't see much point in holding on to Butler to try and be a #8 seed for the next two years, and then either letting him walk or overpaying him to stay.  Butler's not good enough to anchor a contender. 

Lavine, if he comes back 100%, is a very good player - a freak athlete who can shoot.  Dunn, well - disappointing rookie season for sure, but has a chance.  As foe the #7 pick, well - it's a good draft 7-deep, so that could be a nice piece.  I like the trade, because if nothing else it's proof GarPax have acknowledged a teardown is the only way.

GarPax are still terrible, but at least this almost feels like a plan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2017, 06:54:19 pm
Well, the 16th pick being included does tip the scales for me against it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on June 22, 2017, 06:56:59 pm
I wasn't in love with Butler so I'm not heartbroken.

Truth is I don't even like todays NBA anymore so I don't really care.

I do still like college basketball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 22, 2017, 07:03:24 pm
Brutal trade.

Butler should have brought back more.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2017, 07:08:54 pm
He would have with a competent front office.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2017, 07:13:52 pm
Butler isn't a superstar, you're not going to get a superstar return.  Especially since GMs know the Bulls have boxed themselves into a corner.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 22, 2017, 07:21:59 pm
If hes not a 1 he's def a 1b.

We literally just gave up the best player on the team, to move up 11 spots in the draft. the players we got back are seriously flawed.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 22, 2017, 07:24:54 pm
9 spots!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 22, 2017, 07:25:57 pm
Even worse.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 22, 2017, 07:27:56 pm
"Lauri Markkanen is 9th overall in ESPN's analytic draft model: 2% chance to play like an all star and 47% chance to be a bust." Ben Alamar, ESPN Analytics

Ouch.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 22, 2017, 07:32:58 pm
Not a great trade,  but not as bad as everyone here is saying.  If Dunn develops and they do well with their pick this could be a good trade.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 22, 2017, 07:51:48 pm
Including the 16th pick tips the scales for me. It wouldn't be a Bulls trade if they didn't include unnecessary picks.

At least Patton is going to play for a good coach. Calling my shot TWolves will get the two best players out of this deal.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2017, 08:31:27 pm
How is it not an awful trade? They could've made the exact same one last draft. Butler has a better year, Dunn does not have a good rookie campaign, and Levine blows out his knee, and they can't do any better?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 22, 2017, 09:05:35 pm
https://www.sbnation.com/2017/6/22/15858220/jimmy-butler-trade-bulls-timberwolves-bad
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on June 23, 2017, 11:17:16 am
Stan Bowman asking GarPax to hold his beer

jesus

Hammer gone for nothing
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on June 23, 2017, 11:29:50 am
Stan lmao

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/878287328220823553

Welcome back Saad
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2017, 11:34:26 am
Well, it's stunning, but on the other hand the team is in cap hell thanks to Bettman and having so many good players early on. In other times they may have picked up another Cup or two. Now just trying to survive. And Hossa might be done which makes things worse.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 23, 2017, 11:36:37 am
Hawks trade Hjalmarsson as well.  I don't mind either move.  Hjalmarsson is terrific, but has a lot of mileage with all of the blocked shots he has taken.  Getting younger there is fine.  Panarin is pretty one dimensional (although he's a great scorer), and they missed Saad's physical presence.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2017, 11:45:29 am
Saad's not all that physical. More than Panarin but Panarin is a supreme offensive talent. Only two years on his contract though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2017, 11:54:10 am
https://twitter.com/DimFilipovic/status/878291100074622976
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 23, 2017, 12:43:21 pm
Panarin is overrated, IMO.  He's a serious defensive liability.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2017, 12:44:51 pm
So is Kane. Top-10 offensive talents don't come around every day.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on June 23, 2017, 12:54:02 pm
Saad-Panarin deal is a net win for sure. But punting Hammer for **** sucks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2017, 01:46:09 pm
https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/878272502346039297
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 23, 2017, 02:10:53 pm
We def sold at .50 on butler.

I think if Cavs were given more time, they would have come up with a much better package for butler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 23, 2017, 02:29:38 pm
Listening to Chicago radio this was by far the best offer for Butler. The original TWolves offer was Rubio, Dunn and the #7. Boston was only willing to offer their pick next year.

Blackhawks are rumored to be trying to trade up in the first round and get TJ Oshie to play with Kane.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 23, 2017, 02:33:24 pm
The Bulls did not have to trade Butler right now. You don't take a garbage offer when you don't need to. In fact, they didn't have to trade Butler at all.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 23, 2017, 02:45:13 pm
GarPax judged that Butler was not a guy to try to build a Championship team around, so back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on June 23, 2017, 03:10:42 pm
The Bulls also didn't want a half season of Butler because they want to tank for top pick next year. The idea behind rebuilding is to be bad enough to get top talent several years in a row in the draft. The problem continues to be the guys picking that talent.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: grrrrlacher on June 23, 2017, 03:16:53 pm
The Bulls did not have to trade Butler right now. You don't take a garbage offer when you don't need to. In fact, they didn't have to trade Butler at all.

As a Pacers fan I think this is why George has not been traded.  The problem with the Pacers is they are not going to get anything good in any trade for George thanks to his big mouth.  I don't understand though why the Bulls couldn't get more for Butler.  That one is puzzling.  They got about as much as I think the Pacers could get for George.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 23, 2017, 04:11:55 pm
I would have been OK with it apart from giving up the 16th pick.  That's just the usual GarPax horrendous negotiating.

The kicker, though, is selling Jordan Bell to the Warriors for 3.5 million.  Sickening and despicable - a slap in the face to every Bulls fan.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 23, 2017, 04:13:32 pm
Potentially helpful for the Warriors though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 23, 2017, 05:34:27 pm
Well, yeah - but we're talking about the Bulls here.  And did the Warriors really need the help?

I can't think it's good for the NBA to have the Bulls under such cheap ownership and terrible management. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 23, 2017, 06:00:26 pm
The Bulls also didn't want a half season of Butler because they want to tank for top pick next year. The idea behind rebuilding is to be bad enough to get top talent several years in a row in the draft. The problem continues to be the guys picking that talent.

The Wsox are rebuilding... do you think they should have sold Sale at 50 cents on the dollar to get a higher draft pick faster? how about Q, do you think they should dump him now at 50 cents on the dollar... i mean they have the 8th overall pick now... and they are rebuilding so might as well dump him for nothing to get a higher pick.

Worse yet... thats not even what the bulls did. They traded their best player to move up a few spots... not to take some transcendental talent... but to take a center in a league moving away from big men from a small school.... its just bizarre.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 23, 2017, 06:57:53 pm
Speaking after the NBA draft Thursday night, Bulls vice president of basketball operations John Paxson called it a "hard" decision to move Butler, "a guy we really like." But Paxson said by making the move, the organization "set a direction" of going "with young players."

Umm, you dont have to give away your best player to set a direction.. you can do that while extracting the most value.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 23, 2017, 07:06:49 pm
The problem is you can't compare baseball to basketball. I think part of the problem is that Golden State is so much better than everyone else and the Cavs are so much better than everyone in the East that teams aren't willing to pay for a player with 1-2 years of control. The Bulls should have traded him last year for what ever they could have gotten and had a much higher lottery pick this year. Hopefully Reinsdorf will let them use cap space to buy additional assets and then they will get rid of GarPax. If Indiana can get more for George that will change things, but my guess is that this is the most they could have gotten for Butler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 23, 2017, 08:28:02 pm
Any owner who sells a well-regarded sleeper draft pick for straight cash isn't going to be re-investing his money in players.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on June 23, 2017, 09:26:28 pm
The problem is you can't compare baseball to basketball. I think part of the problem is that Golden State is so much better than everyone else and the Cavs are so much better than everyone in the East that teams aren't willing to pay for a player with 1-2 years of control. The Bulls should have traded him last year for what ever they could have gotten and had a much higher lottery pick this year. Hopefully Reinsdorf will let them use cap space to buy additional assets and then they will get rid of GarPax. If Indiana can get more for George that will change things, but my guess is that this is the most they could have gotten for Butler.

Its 2 years in his prime... that might have been the best deal offered RIGHT NOW. But its probably not the best value you can get for the guy...

right before the draft, in either the NFL or the NBA where picks are tradable, picks are king... they bring in more value then players. AFTER the draft, or during the season its the other way around.

They chose the wrong time and the wrong deal. they basically decided they'd take the best deal avaialbe to them right now... vs saying here is our path and plan... and lets get the most we can for butler. We are rebuilding and he is not part of the plan... but let the league know he's available in the next 6 months at XXX price.

I am confident the Cav's would have figured something out to get him and gotten the bulls more dunn and a PF with a high bust potential.

JR will not spend any money for assets... thats not his style... do remember he is the guy behind the slot pick pricing in MLB...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on June 25, 2017, 12:17:14 pm
I have a lot of respect for Sam Smith, and he seems to feel that the Bulls got what they could for Butler, and that they were right to pull the trigger.

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/ask-sam-mailbag-062317/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 25, 2017, 12:27:29 pm
Whatever respect I had for Sam (admittedly not that much) has disintegrated as he's devolved into unintentional self-parody these last few years.  He's a hack and a shill who's desperate to be seen as hip, funny and connected.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 25, 2017, 12:29:25 pm
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7. Most of the NBA is stunned by the poor return for Butler. Boston supposedly offered a far more attractive package with several future picks. No one is sure what Chicago was thinking. Meanwhile, Minnesota should be a playoff team with Butler, who is under contract for two more years.


http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2017/06/cleveland_cavaliers_scribbles_54.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on June 25, 2017, 12:42:43 pm
I've seen no evidence that Boston ever offered a better package for Butler.  Sounds like someone regurgitating rumors.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 25, 2017, 01:00:02 pm
It would be disappointing if they turned down a better offer of future picks for what they get t from the TWolves. My guess is that if the Celtics did offer up picks it wasn't the really good one (Brooklyn, Lakers etc...), but it has always been rumored that the Bulls wanted some young players included instead of just picks. GarPax seems to have an unhealthily obsession with former lottery picks that haven't performed well that they liked in their draft year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 25, 2017, 07:21:02 pm
A look at some of the Bulls' FO ineptitude:

http://www.givemesport.com/1085794-reactive-rather-than-proactive-the-butler-trade-demonstrates-a-lack-of-joinedup-thinking
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 30, 2017, 09:06:11 pm
George traded to OKC for Oladipo and Sabonis.  That seems to be less than what the Bulls got for Butler.  It doesn't mean that GarPax are excellent either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 30, 2017, 09:17:57 pm
George traded to OKC for Oladipo and Sabonis.  That seems to be less than what the Bulls got for Butler.  It doesn't mean that GarPax are excellent either.

George is a FA after the year and is telling everyone he's headed to LA. It's a one-year rental.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 30, 2017, 09:22:00 pm
That is fair, but Butler only has 2 years of control before he can opt out. I think GarPax suck, but the Butler trade could really have been the best offer and another two years of being an 8th seed isn't appealing.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 30, 2017, 09:27:22 pm
Well, they sure won't be an 8th seed anymore.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on June 30, 2017, 09:33:46 pm
Hopefully they'll be the worst team in the NBA....
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on June 30, 2017, 09:40:29 pm
Even then you still have to win a lottery.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on July 12, 2017, 03:26:57 pm
Picking up on some posts that were made when Arnold Palmer died last September, Tom Callahan has a new book out simply titled Arnie.  Here is an excerpt from it:

Quote
Two men from Chicago, Jeff Roberts and Wally Schneider, were serving in Vietnam and wrote to Palmer seeking help with their bunker shots (when they weren't shooting from bunkers). Palmer not only replied, he sent two sand wedges and golf balls, along with his sincere wishes for a safe and speedy return.

Roberts went to the Western Open when he got home. He waited for Palmer outside the clubhouse at Olympia Fields and told him that he was one of the soldiers to whom Palmer had sent the sand wedges in Vietnam.

"Are you Jeff or Wally?" Palmer said to him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 12, 2017, 03:48:24 pm
I knew an old man who had met Palmer and he said he was as nice as you could have ever hoped.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 20, 2017, 11:17:28 am
Oh, the irony - Rose about to sign with the Cavs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 20, 2017, 08:13:46 pm
Damn Dave I bet you're hurtin over the Hugh Freeze news huh?

That's what cheating will get you.

Time to just give in and root for the Big Orange.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 20, 2017, 08:22:46 pm
Well Ill give him credit.

It wasn't cheating that got him fired.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20117453/hugh-freeze-ole-miss-rebels-resigns-escort-service-calls-cited

Hotty toddy...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on July 20, 2017, 09:09:15 pm
The NCAA doesn't have nearly as much on the program as the press would have you believe.

Ironic that Houston Nutt and the Freedom of Information Act were his downfall.

Great coach and great recruiter, shame it ended like this...

And I would root for Isis over the Vols...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on July 20, 2017, 09:22:28 pm
I loved that Dave.

I use that same line in regards to the Florida Gators.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on July 22, 2017, 10:06:51 am
Irving asks for a trade. Sure wish the bulls had Butler around to make a run at irving.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on July 23, 2017, 12:09:14 pm
Spieth is cold blooded!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 23, 2017, 12:29:22 pm
The only way Irving would have gone to Chicago was to play with Butler.  What would the Bulls have had to offer besides him?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on July 23, 2017, 06:28:26 pm
Bullshit.

Irving will go anywhere he can be #1. if he cared about who he played with he would have made his demands 5 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on July 23, 2017, 06:51:03 pm
That must be why he's been trying to engineer playing with Butler since the end of the season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 07, 2017, 08:39:39 am
Dolphins is the new pick for the Super Bowl with the Cutler signing!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on August 10, 2017, 09:17:06 pm
Brady the God will win number 6. But this guy Trubisky has bears fans singin!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on August 13, 2017, 10:17:43 pm
Great win for Justin Thomas today.  Golf is in a pretty good place for the next few years with all the great players emerging.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 14, 2017, 12:18:50 pm
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/872599-ric-fair-hospitalized-medical-issues

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 17, 2017, 08:52:28 pm
So Chris Berman's old lady gets drunk and rear ends an old man and kills him along with herself and they're suing the restaurant that she got drunk at for letting her drink. If they had refused her she would have sued too...  https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/6863d230-a215-3518-91e7-5d86b1a43f85/cafe-under-investigation-in.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 17, 2017, 08:54:11 pm
What a F'd up world we live in.

Things just seem ass backwards these days.

I hope they win and then the old man's family sues the Berman's for so much Chris has to retire in the projects.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on August 23, 2017, 10:06:54 am
Rule #1 in bar tending.  Don't over-serve.  You will be held liable.  I volunteer with an organization that raises money for kids sports by serving beer and alcohol at a concert venue in VA.  We have to take a "TIPS" course every year and this is a big issue.  The server is the sober one and has the better judgement.

http://www.tipsalcohol.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7uO6htDt1QIViz2BCh1-CQrsEAAYASAAEgLuyPD_BwE

You have the responsibility (not the right) to NOT serve a person.  If they look intoxicated to you then you cannot serve them more.  We deny them and inform Alcohol Compliance Officials and they watch them to make sure they do not go to another vendor.  If they do they are tossed out of the concert venue.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 26, 2017, 04:10:33 pm
I know I'm more into the fake stuff but I wonder who y'all have got in the big fight tonight.

I'll say Mayweather in 3.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 26, 2017, 04:24:57 pm
Forcing McGregor to fight without kicking or using MMA skills is nuts.  It's like expecting a team to beat Kershaw without bats.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: mO on August 26, 2017, 05:05:05 pm
Mayweather's punching power is a myth. He'll win in a decision.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on August 26, 2017, 05:05:19 pm
Mayweather will probably win.  The only reason I am going to go watch the fight is just in case McGregor surprises the world.  I hope he does.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 26, 2017, 11:30:31 pm
Humorous to follow on both CNN and ESPN.  Whoever is working for those networks isn't seeing the same fight as the other guy.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on August 27, 2017, 12:10:43 am
I'll give the pro wrestler credit - that lasted way longer than I expected.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on August 27, 2017, 12:13:50 am
Agree,  unless...

Weren't there bets on how long the fight would go as well as who would win?  And wasn't the line at 9+?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on August 27, 2017, 12:19:28 am
I wasted 100 dollars but I wasn't surprised.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 15, 2017, 06:21:37 am
As much as ESPN keeps hyping the NFL and acting like it's the only sport around anymore, boy is it a really awful sh!tty product.  Bengals and Texans . . . ugh.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on September 16, 2017, 06:10:04 pm
Dusty, that one has to sting.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on September 16, 2017, 06:23:25 pm
Butch was such an uninspired hire for Tennessee. He has to go.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 16, 2017, 06:46:15 pm
Memphis over UCLA
Cubs over Cardinals
Florida over Tennessee

An Ole Miss win at Cal tonight, and this day will be perfect...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 17, 2017, 03:12:51 am
With age Ive mellowed tremendously when it comes to this stuff.

If I can make it through last October I sure can handle UT losing a game I expected them to.

As far as Butch goes he is what he is.

He's gonna win 7-8-9 games a year and beat shitty Big 10 teams in bowl games but if you're expecting championships he's probably not your man.

I personally dont see how you could fire him.

TOs and missed FGs beat UT today not Butch Jones.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 17, 2017, 01:15:28 pm
Vanderbilt looks like they might actually have a fairly decent shot in the SEC East.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on September 17, 2017, 01:32:12 pm
Vanderbilt could probably defeat the Bears.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on September 17, 2017, 07:33:12 pm
For the wrestling fans, especially the older ones. I grew up with this guy. He was hilarious.

"On Sunday, the wrestling industry suffered a massive, horrible shock as news broke of Hall of Fame announcer and manager Bobby “The Brain” Heenan’s passing."
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on September 17, 2017, 07:55:14 pm
In Verne Gagne’s AWA, Bobby Heenan was known as “The Weasel”.  Of course he hated the name.

One of the often repeated AWA scenarios was Nick Bockwinkle keeping his world title because his manager, Heenan, would get involved in the match.  Of course the title could not change hands on a disqualification.  Then there would be a no DQ re-match that Heenan still managed to interfere in.  The challenger would then get a partner and go up against Bockwinkle and Heenan in a tag match that never solved anything.   That often resulted in a cage match.  Then a new challenger would come along and the cycle repeated itself.

One of the most classic AWA matches ever had Heenan facing Verne Gagne’s son Greg.  Greg Gagne weighed about 175 pounds but was always introduced at 222½.  The match ended with Heenan being put out by the famous Gagne sleeper hold.  A bunch of wrestlers entered the ring blocking the view of what was going on.  After a few minutes the ring cleared only to show Gagne waking Heenan up who found himself wearing a weasel costume.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 17, 2017, 08:23:43 pm
I met Bobby Heenan recently and he looked like death.

He had his jaw removed or something and all he'd do at the signing was give you the finger.

In a joking way of course.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 17, 2017, 08:26:03 pm
This isnt me with him.

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on September 24, 2017, 03:40:09 pm
The GOAT, Tom Brady with 1,000 yards passing and 8TD/0INT thru three games. Fn legend
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 24, 2017, 04:05:45 pm
LOL, if someone doubted before, they surely don't now...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 26, 2017, 09:57:14 am
I wonder if Bruce Pearl's remaining college coaching career should be counted down in hours or minutes right now.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/26/adidas-louisville-fbi-bribery-ncaa-arrests/ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/26/adidas-louisville-fbi-bribery-ncaa-arrests/)

Sounds like Louisville might be in some really serious trouble too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 26, 2017, 02:25:14 pm
Do you mean to tell me that high school basketball prospects are going to the school that makes the highest offer?!

I am stunned!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on September 26, 2017, 02:36:19 pm
Brian Bowen was the Louisville recruit and picked them out of the blue.  Creighton was thought to be a leader for him, but he kept putting off his announcement.  This Pitino quote is fabulous in retrospect, ""We got lucky on this one," Pitino said. "I had an AAU director call me and say, 'Would you be interested in a basketball player?' I said ... 'Yeah, I'd be really interested.' But [Bowen and his people] had to come in unofficially, pay for their hotels, pay for their meals. So we spent zero dollars recruiting a five-star athlete who I loved when I saw him play. In my 40-some-odd years of coaching, this is the luckiest I've been."

It might actually lead the NCAA do either do something about paying players or just fold up shop.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on September 26, 2017, 03:22:44 pm
Pitino is a longtime sleaze in every way.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 26, 2017, 04:12:48 pm
Bruce Pearl is the Adolph Rupp of Tennessee basketball.

I would have been totally fine if he was still to this day our coach.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on September 27, 2017, 12:16:24 pm
Bruce Pearl is the Adolph Rupp of Tennessee basketball.

I would have been totally fine if he was still to this day our coach.
I would think Ray Mears is/was more like UT's Adolph Rupp than Pearl
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 27, 2017, 12:50:55 pm
Dusty really misses Pat Head, he just won't admit it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 27, 2017, 03:31:52 pm
Ray Mears probably is UTs Adolph Rupp but he never coached a game at UT during my lifetime that's why I said what I said about Pearl.

You'd have to be pretty long in the tooth to even know who Ray Mears was these days.

As far as Pat Head goes Im mellowing with age so I found no pleasure in her death but Im still no Lady Vols fan.

I dont hate them but I dont hate hockey either and I dont watch it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on September 28, 2017, 12:05:28 pm
You might not be a true UT fan (young or old) if you don't know who the person was that coined the phrase "Big Orange Country"
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 28, 2017, 12:22:49 pm
Some guy from Syracuse?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 28, 2017, 12:51:29 pm
Like I said before you still hear Ray Mears's name around these parts just not that often.

He's the reason UTs coach usually wears an orange jacket and such.

He is a big deal.

Just not like Im sure he was 40 years ago.

I never saw General Neyland coach a game either.

Does that mean Im not a "real" UT fan?

Phil Fulmer would be to me in football what I said Bruce Pearl was to me in basketball.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 28, 2017, 12:54:51 pm
And UT mens basketball isnt that big of a deal around here and other than the Pearl years it never has been.

Ray Mears would be the equivalent of the prettiest fat girl.

Nobody has done much with the program.

Mears just did more than anyone else...other than maybe Pearl.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 28, 2017, 01:20:32 pm
I watch UT basketball as religiously as I do UT football and have my whole life so I knew a few things that I wanted to throw out there but I wanted to go get my years right before I posted it so here goes.

Bruce Pearl took UT to the NCAA tourney every year he was here.

We've only been 18 times in program history.

He took us to our only elite 8 ever.

UT has been to the sweet 16 7 times all time.

Pearl took them to 3.

The only time UT has been ranked #1 nationally was under Pearl.

He was only here 6 years and got fired for having a high school Jr to his house for a cookout.

High school Sr's are allowed to your house.

Rick Pitino got to stay at Louisville and provided his incoming recruits prostitutes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on September 29, 2017, 10:00:22 am
Bears fans clamoring for Trubisky with a mediocre offensive line and the worst group of skill played in NFL history. Smh
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on September 29, 2017, 10:52:27 am


Rick Pitino got to stay at Louisville and provided his incoming recruits prostitutes.
Yes, but they weren't at his cook-out.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on September 30, 2017, 04:30:01 pm
Lyle "Butch" Jones won't make it til Monday
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on September 30, 2017, 05:27:05 pm
0-25
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on September 30, 2017, 09:41:41 pm
Butch's stay at UT has hit a downward trend I will say that.

Do you fire him mid season?

No.

Could he still save his job?

Yes.

Let things play out and then decide after the season.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 30, 2017, 11:12:18 pm
Butch is toast.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on September 30, 2017, 11:13:12 pm
After Vanderbilt beats them again at the end of the season, that'll make firing him all the easier.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 01, 2017, 12:51:20 am
Actually other than Alabama and maybe Georgia, the entire rest of the SEC is a train wreck conference right now.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 02, 2017, 01:06:17 pm
ESPN is ranking the dismal dismal dismal Dolphins offense with Cutler as one of the top 10 surprises of the season so far.  Who the hell have they been watching the past 10 years?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 05, 2017, 09:50:04 pm
Jon Gruden anyone?

Tremendous smoke in Knoxville tonight.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 05, 2017, 10:03:08 pm
Jon Gruden is a major pipe dream.

Not really sure UT should want him anyway.  He's been enjoying easy street in the broadcast booth for years now.  I can't imagine his enthusiasm for taking a college job could be all that great.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 05, 2017, 10:03:56 pm
If he didn't have the country backwoods name, Jim Bob Cooter with the Lions would be the right guy for UT to go after.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 05, 2017, 10:04:57 pm
Jim Bob Cooter was born (and bred) for that job.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 05, 2017, 10:44:33 pm
I know regarding Jim Bob.

He'll eventually be our coach.

I dont think Gruden is very likely either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 05, 2017, 11:00:07 pm
How about Lavon Hayes?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 05, 2017, 11:03:28 pm
UT just needs to look past the backwoods name, get over some of the jokes on sports radio they'll get, and hire Jim Bob after they fire Butch.  He has the country backwoods name, but he's a smart guy and a good coach.  And he'd be loyal to UT. 

Maybe Tennessee could convince Justin Fuente to leave Virginia Tech too, but Fuente is probably the best case scenario for what UT can expect at this point.   
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 05, 2017, 11:25:45 pm
Blackhawks showing off their young talent against an obviously tired Pens teams. Not sure they'll play defense well enough to be a title contender though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 05, 2017, 11:27:06 pm
You can tell you're a hater like Dave is JR.

Justin Fuente?

Come on brother.

We're talking about a legit top 10 program nationally thats probably 2nd in SEC history only behind Alabama.

Ole Miss and Vandy both arent even top 50.

Vandy maybe not even top 100.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 05, 2017, 11:49:03 pm
I'm not a hater.  I worked at Vanderbilt for 5 years, went to a lot of games when I was working there, and lived in Nashville for 14 years now, so I'm more a Vandy fan now.  I still want to see UT do well though.

I'd like it if they did pay up for Chip Kelly, but I don't see it happening.  Kelly just doesn't seem interested in taking a college job, and even if he was, a job like A&M is going to be more attractive, not to mention some other job that might also open up he might like better (UCLA being a Pac-12 school, Nebraska, LSU, etc.).  At the very least, Chip Kelly probably has maybe a 10-20% chance of happening, which might be optimistic.

Jon Gruden isn't happening, and again, I'm not even sure that's something you should want happening at this point.  It's been a decade since he's been on a sideline, and he's in a job that probably pays as well as a good college coaching job without nearly the stress of it.  Even if he took that job, that's a big transition from being in a cozy broadcast job for 10 years to dealing with overzealous college fans with oversized expectations.

Once you get past guys like that, you're looking at guys like Cooter and Fuente.  If Nebraska wasn't likely to open up, Scott Frost might emerge as a good candidate too, but if UCF finishes well, he's likely going to Nebraska.  And honestly, Fuente is a good coach.  He could do well at Tennessee and probably do a lot better job coaching up the talent they have than Butch Jones has.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 05, 2017, 11:52:46 pm
I guess the other part of it too is I've reached the point where big time college sports just disgusts me too much for me to get too worked up about it anymore.  This latest scandal with Adidas is just another example of it.

If it sounds like I'm a hater, it's probably because just about every big program rubs me the wrong way nowadays.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 06, 2017, 08:23:59 am
LOL, UT would be damn lucky to get a coach like Fuente.

I'd be pretty dismayed if he ended up there. I don't think he'd leave VT for UT, though...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 06, 2017, 12:45:20 pm
You all do know the backstory on Gruden to UT right?

He lives in the town next to my hometown in Dandridge TN and his wife went to my high school and was a cheerleader at UT.

He has said multiple times that UTs his dream job.

He's our Nick Saban.

It wont look likely until youre watching the press conference.

If UTs willing to pay him right he will come.

I saw a chart a few days ago where UT makes the most money in the SEC in sports but is like 7th in spending.

The money is there.

Now its time to see if UTs willing to pay for a winner or if they just enjoy being mediocre.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 06, 2017, 02:00:51 pm
We'll see how it goes.  I still don't see why he'd want to leave the great job he has to deal with 18-21 year old's on the field and an SEC fan base off of it, but we'll see.  Even if he did take it, at this stage of his career, I'm pretty far from convinced he's leading anyone to the promised land anyway. 

If Butch goes, I think you're more than likely going to need to get ready to accept someone of the Jim Bob, Justin Fuente, Les Miles, Tee Martin, Chad Morris, Major Applewhite, random assistant class of coach, which if they pick right, they'd probably be better off with anyway.


Maybe if they play their cards right, they can snag Chip Kelly or Mike Gundy as well, but I'm not sure I'd be too optimistic there either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 06, 2017, 02:17:43 pm
You need to take them gold colored glasses off JR. Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on October 06, 2017, 05:15:37 pm
You all do know the backstory on Gruden to UT right?

He lives in the town next to my hometown in Dandridge TN and his wife went to my high school and was a cheerleader at UT.

He has said multiple times that UTs his dream job.

He's our Nick Saban.

It wont look likely until youre watching the press conference.

If UTs willing to pay him right he will come.

I saw a chart a few days ago where UT makes the most money in the SEC in sports but is like 7th in spending.

The money is there.

Now its time to see if UTs willing to pay for a winner or if they just enjoy being mediocre.

Is this different than Gruden's alarm clock playing the ND fight song when he wakes up?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on October 06, 2017, 05:26:40 pm
Is this different than Gruden's alarm clock playing the ND fight song when he wakes up?

Well, that makes sense as an alarm is only effective when the noise is unpleasant.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 08, 2017, 03:49:55 pm
Titans and Dolphins .... the NFL is one really shitty overhyped product.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 08, 2017, 07:19:09 pm
They are almost as bad as the SEC.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 08, 2017, 07:26:19 pm
Be thankful that you missed the excitement of the Niner-Colts game.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 08, 2017, 07:30:55 pm
Packers game was fun.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 08, 2017, 07:57:30 pm
Arron fuc king Rodgers.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: DelMarFan on October 09, 2017, 01:20:14 pm
Should have taken the Pence Approach, P2.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 09, 2017, 01:51:10 pm
Charge the taxpayers a half million for a staged publicity stunt?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 09, 2017, 02:01:39 pm
You got that right, DMF.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 09, 2017, 06:42:05 pm
OK, now it's time for the Trubisky Show to hit the air!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: goblue007 on October 14, 2017, 02:18:18 pm
Ol Butch is done for
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on October 14, 2017, 02:24:50 pm
Never fails to bring a smile to my face...never gets old...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 15, 2017, 03:41:03 am
Butch's seat is definitely blazing and deservedly so.

He's not a horrible coach though.

He'll go somewhere else and they'll love him.

His ultimate downfall will be hiring offensive and defensive coordinators that didnt work out even though every team in the country would take Bob Shoop.

Ill just leave this here...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/jon-gruden-is-in-knoxville-and-tennessee-vols-fans-are-perfectly-calm-about-it/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 15, 2017, 11:00:40 am
The hiring of coordinators is on him, though, and he's had lousy offensive coordinators since he's taken over.  It seems like he wants to be the one in charge of offense, so he doesn't want someone with too strong of a resume in that spot.  Basically the offense that's scored one TD in the last three games is one he deserves to have.


Bob Shoop was great at Vanderbilt.  Not sure why James Franklin had enough of him at Penn St., but Tennessee's defense hasn't been that much to write home about this season and should have defended that Florida hail mary a lot better.  Then again, when your offense doesn't do much and doesn't stay on the field, that puts a lot of pressure on the defense. 

Butch will be fine once he gets back to the MAC or the AAC, or maybe he can get back with Brian Kelly and start riding his coattails again.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on October 15, 2017, 12:19:14 pm
Butch will be fine once he gets back to the MAC or the AAC, or maybe he can get back with Brian Kelly and start riding his coattails again.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!

I will say that Kelly replacing the d coordinator and strength coach dramatically changed ND from last year.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 15, 2017, 01:24:32 pm
Butch isnt the offensive coordinator JR.

Former Miami head coach Larry Scott is.

Everyone hated Mike Debord and Scott makes him look like Bill Walsh.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 17, 2017, 06:00:14 pm
Apparently Bobby Portis broke Niko's face in a practice altercation today.

Gonna be a great year for the Bulls...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Robb on October 17, 2017, 06:10:21 pm
If the plan is to get the top pick in the draft, I would say the plan is proceeding according to schedule.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 19, 2017, 07:29:21 pm
Bulls win total this year:  over 20?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 19, 2017, 10:18:01 pm
The Bulls were going to be bad anyway, but they aren't the sort of team that can lose three rotation players and survive it.  That was a brutal preseason.

On the upside, Markaanen looks like he has a chance to be a player.  He can shoot, has a high basketball IQ and he's tougher than he looks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on October 20, 2017, 04:17:41 am
Will the Bulls have more wins than the crappy Bears?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Playtwo on October 20, 2017, 08:15:14 am
I think I would dump Portis.  He hasn't shown much and isn't worth the current and future dissension.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JBN on October 20, 2017, 10:40:07 pm
Jason Lloyd (@JasonLloydNBA)

Ty Lue said Derrick Rose sprained his ankle tonight and "it doesn't look good."

NOTSportsCenter (@NOTSportsCenter)


Did You Know: Derrick Rose played 2 games this season before suffering an injury, breaking his previous career high of 1
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on October 22, 2017, 07:49:31 am
Dusty

It looks like the ESPN 30 For 30 feature on Ric Flair has been rescheduled

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/07/26/ric-flair-30-30-trailer-espn
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 22, 2017, 11:16:12 am
It makes you want to cry just watching the trailer. Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 24, 2017, 07:11:27 pm
If they every get a competent GM and can build a team around him, Maarkanen is going to be a nice piece for the Bulls.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on October 24, 2017, 07:15:32 pm
Maarkanen will look great for stretches and then he'll be MIA for a while.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on October 24, 2017, 07:18:08 pm
Why are the Cavs allowed to all but tank games prior to the playoffs? I'd be furious if I were a ticket holder of theirs.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on October 24, 2017, 07:34:20 pm
http://nypost.com/2017/10/24/jenn-sterger-rips-just-as-bad-espn-for-strip-club-job-interview/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 24, 2017, 07:43:29 pm
Maarkanen will look great for stretches and then he'll be MIA for a while.

You're confident of that after 2 games as a 20 year-old?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 24, 2017, 09:30:10 pm
Soon...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seccountry.com/tennessee/404588/amp
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 24, 2017, 11:26:43 pm
I think Vegas and the bookmakers just smell an opportunity to make some free money off of people who are believing a little too much in the "Grumors".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 25, 2017, 08:34:11 pm
I want to be clear on a few things JR.

First I dont think its at all likely that Gruden comes to UT and Im not even 100% sure that Butch gets fired or even deserves to be.

Its kinda like following free agency in the Winter hoping the Cubs sign someone with Gruden.

Sometimes you get your man but most of the time you dont but following it all is half the fun.

My best guess is Butch does get fired and we end up with one of Les Miles,Bobby Petrino, Charlie Strong, or Chip Kelly.

As a Vandy fan Im sure you'll be familiar with a man I would be all in for...James Franklin.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 25, 2017, 08:47:13 pm
But Im no insider to UT by any means.

Normally in my lifetime when UT has needed a coach they've always tried to go cheap with up and comers other than when they recently hired Rick Barnes for basketball.

That's probably what will happen this time.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 26, 2017, 07:21:59 am
Cross strong off your list. His wife's family is in lakeland... He took the usf job to be near them.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on October 26, 2017, 08:39:22 am
Gruden wants another NFL job.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on October 26, 2017, 09:23:08 pm

Here's a thing:
Quote

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Lauri Markkanen has made 12 threes, the most by a player in the first 4 games of his NBA career.
11:10 AM - 27 Oct 2017
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 26, 2017, 10:07:52 pm
Just throwing this out there since we have been discussing it.

100% legit and verified that Jon Gruden did buy a house in Knoxville today.

Soon...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 27, 2017, 08:20:17 pm
Soon...

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tennessee-football/grumor-alert-jon-gruden-now-betting-favorite-tennessees-next-head-coach/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 29, 2017, 01:05:48 pm
Kind of surprising Florida is firing McElwain before Tennessee fires Butch.


Actually this is a far away opinion, but I'm not sure why McElwain is getting fired in the first place.  Two SEC East titles in the first two years isn't enough to make up for a down year this year? 


Fan bases of some of these big programs are just nuts.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 29, 2017, 01:29:07 pm
He faked death threats against him and his players.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 29, 2017, 01:34:52 pm
He didn't fake them. He claims some were made against him and his players. When administrators followed up with him on the claims he failed/did not give them any info that corroborated his claim.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 29, 2017, 02:05:08 pm
Uh...

What's the difference?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 29, 2017, 02:33:11 pm
Why is lying or over exaggerating something like that to the media a fireable offense?  Yeah it doesn't look good, but college coaches lie and exaggerate to the media all the time.  He didn't lie to the police about it, so it's not a crime.

They just don't like the season they're having, which is understandable, but he had two solid seasons after taking over the mess Will Muschamp left behind.

Maybe they have reason to think he actually is the guy who was humping the shark in that one pic and adding this and the disappointing season was a little too much baggage, but in terms of just his record, they shouldn't be ready to run him off right now.  And when it comes down to it, his firing is more 90-95% about them not being happy with what they're doing on the field than those comments.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 29, 2017, 03:17:02 pm
And the **** finally hits the fan...

https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/tennessee-football-vols-butch-jones-future-1029
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 29, 2017, 03:36:23 pm
Soon...

https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/coaching-rumors-tennessee-offered-jon-gruden-10-million-year-also-eyeing-bobby-petrino
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 29, 2017, 10:44:28 pm
Bobby Petrino?  He's got to be the biggest flake in the coaching industry.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on October 30, 2017, 10:23:41 am
Yeah whoever hires Bobby Petrino deserves to have a filthy slimeball as their coach.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 30, 2017, 12:21:23 pm
Of course UT fans are holding out hope that it ends up being Gruden but I'd have a awful hard time bitching if it were Petrino.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 30, 2017, 12:23:23 pm
Petrino would fit in well. SEC has shown over and over winning is the only thing that counts for them... Petrino shouldnt be allowed to coach and lead young men.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 30, 2017, 12:27:36 pm
...or women.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on October 30, 2017, 12:31:13 pm
Agreed, but he's being hired to lead the young men in a head ball coach role.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 30, 2017, 01:55:33 pm
method, he also fiddled the young women assigned to the team in various capacities.  He's a deuschebag.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on October 30, 2017, 01:58:18 pm
Lol

As long as he can beat Florida and Alabama we dont mind.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on October 30, 2017, 02:00:38 pm
Lol

As long as he can beat Florida and Alabama we dont mind.
Yup, that's the problem.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 01, 2017, 06:18:02 pm
https://youtu.be/jGucgduBpJU
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 02, 2017, 12:19:08 pm
Shits getting real in Knox Vegas...

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 02, 2017, 04:34:49 pm
My luck in fantasy football is just awesome.  I had both DeShaun Watson and Carson Wentz, and just yesterday, I traded Wentz for wide receiver help.  So naturally this had to happen today . . .

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21266399/deshaun-watson-houston-texans-tears-acl-thursday-practice (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21266399/deshaun-watson-houston-texans-tears-acl-thursday-practice)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 02, 2017, 05:07:19 pm
God was angry about the Astros.

I took a huge fantasy hit as well.  I have Hopkins and Miller, and they're both basically rogered.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 02, 2017, 05:12:01 pm
It’s a damn shame that had to happen just for football in general.  Watson was one of the most entertaining guys to watch in a long time.  Hopefully he can at least come back to 100%.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 02, 2017, 05:35:39 pm
Trade you Aaron Rodgers!
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 06, 2017, 04:55:37 pm
http://fanbuzz.com/college-football/sec/tennessee/jon-gruden-vols-job-rumor/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 06, 2017, 07:42:15 pm
You need to let that go.

Bryce Harper becoming a Cub is 10x more likely, and I'm not holding my breath on that one either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 06, 2017, 07:44:30 pm
He carved the Cubs logo into his Halloween pumpkin.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 06, 2017, 07:49:22 pm
Its all in fun Dave.

I dont expect it either.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 06, 2017, 08:30:55 pm
But its not as unlikely as you seem to think...

Clay Travis ✔@ClayTravis
ESPN is 100% not able to afford to keep MNF after deal ends. Gruden to Vols is 50-50. https://twitter.com/jasonrmcintyre/status/927713189499846657 …
8:49 PM - Nov 6, 2017
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 06, 2017, 08:31:19 pm
He carved the Cubs logo into his Halloween pumpkin.


https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcsports.com/chicago/cubs/bryce-harper-flirting-chicago-cubs-kris-bryant-boras-blackhawks-bulls-vegas-wrigley-mlb%3famp
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 06, 2017, 08:33:43 pm
Bryce there is a team on the south side, with a lot of payroll flexibility.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 06, 2017, 08:50:06 pm
That's dog ****.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 06, 2017, 09:09:28 pm
Bryce there is a team on the south side, with a lot of payroll flexibility.
I know, but they suck.--Bryce.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 06, 2017, 11:45:15 pm
Either Harper is the greatest troll in baseball history or he's genuinely, seriously hot and bothered to play for the Cubs.  And he and Bryant are obviously very close pals.  But that doesn't mean he'll give the Cubs any sort of discount when the time comes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on November 07, 2017, 06:24:30 am
I Really seriously think he just loves trolling the media.  He got everyone in Washington all hot and bothered by wearing a Dallas Cowboys hat in an interview once. 

Wait until he signs with the Yankees and names his cat Fenway.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 08, 2017, 03:14:13 am
Good Lord that Ric Flair 30 for 30 took me back to 1985 after church on Sunday at my great grandmothers house.

Im the biggest Hulkamaniac that ever walked the face of the Earth and I still to this day have a red and yellow Hulkamania shirt but Ric truly is the best that ever lived.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on November 08, 2017, 07:47:21 pm
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/wwe/4554054/wwe-wrestling-ric-flair-claims-to-have-had-sex-with-10000-women/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 09, 2017, 03:21:51 pm
Soon...

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 09, 2017, 05:00:20 pm
I agree their is a much better chance that a Chucky doll will be coaching the Vols instead of Gruden.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 09, 2017, 05:19:41 pm
5/60 and gruden says yes.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 09, 2017, 06:03:33 pm
Im starting to think he will come to UT.

Its no different than us stressing over free agents during the offseason.

You win some and you lose some but we're all wrong more often than we're not when we make predictions.

Im more of a Cub fan than any other team college or pro but being born and raised here you're either a UT fan or a bastard no one likes.

There was a time when I would run through walls because I'd get so jacked during UT games.

Unfortunately those days are gone.

UT needs some life injected into this program.

Jon Gruden's just the man to do it.

No one here cares so I wont get very deep into it but there's an awful lot of smoke to this and some even say he's already signed the paperwork and begun putting together a staff.



Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 09, 2017, 06:18:48 pm
What I know for certain...

He bought governor Haslam's house in Knoxville within the last week and joined the high end country club.

He has been to two UT games within the last month after not being seen at any since the 80's.

His son currently goes to UT.

His wife went to UT and her family still lives here.

He has said multiple times that UT's his dream job.

ESPN is going broke and cant afford to keep MNF and is about to cut 100 more employees.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 09, 2017, 06:28:04 pm
And the gossip of the day is he's been using the Haslam's plane since the Georgia game and gossip has been that's when Butch Jones was told he was not gonna be brought back.

Paul Finebaum has even said he's been told we're after him hard.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 09, 2017, 06:34:34 pm
Here's the proof...

https://allfortennessee.com/2017/11/08/tennessee-football-5-reason-grumors/
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 10, 2017, 02:08:01 pm
Just gonna throw this out there...


Rob Siske
Rob Siske
@robsiske
Per source who sat in meeting with John Currie and Jon Gruden this morning, Sunday following the Missouri game Gruden will be announced as coach @BarrettSallee @PeterBurnsESPN @ClayTravis  @ESPNDari @BruceFeldmanCFB @brentdougherty @AustinStanley81 @BradenGall
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 10, 2017, 02:11:59 pm
Grudens QB Camp on ESPN was cancelled today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 10, 2017, 02:42:16 pm
I mean Rob Siske is a devoted follower of Christ, he wouldn't lie so it must be true.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 10, 2017, 04:09:14 pm
I dont even know who he is.

I just found it on volnation.com's message board.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2017, 07:05:25 pm
Solid source...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 11:04:58 am

Bruce Feldman
@BruceFeldmanCFB
BREAKING Butch Jones is out as #Vols head coach, source tells me. He just informed his staff.
11:46 AM · Nov 12, 2017
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 12, 2017, 11:05:25 am
Breaking news with UT... Where is Dusty?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 12, 2017, 11:05:41 am
Haha. You beat me here.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 11:07:03 am
Lol

I came running.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 11:07:15 am
https://youtu.be/fdtg3FqtEEg
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 12, 2017, 11:46:29 am
About time they pulled the plug on Butch.  That should have happened weeks ago.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 12, 2017, 11:57:05 am
There's a good chance the next coach to get the axe will be Mike Riley at Nebraska.  Falling to 4-6 after losing to Minnesota 54-21 isn't something Cornhusker fans are used to.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 12, 2017, 12:18:01 pm
If Scott Frost doesn’t take the  Nebraska job it may cause a riot in in Nebraska.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 12:38:24 pm
Thats why Florida wont hire Frost.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 01:50:37 pm
Let me make myself clear so I dont end up looking dumber than you all already think I am.

Jon Gruden's just a dream and probably not a very realistic one.

My guess is it'll be Dan Mullen or Chip Kelly.

It wouldn't stun me if they go cheap like always though.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 12, 2017, 02:14:55 pm
Let me make myself clear so I dont end up looking dumber than you all already think I am.

It wouldn't stun me if they go cheap like always though.
  Like Bennett says, Mike Riley may soon be available.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 12, 2017, 02:23:33 pm
Why is Mullen leaving a good sec job for a mediocre one?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 12, 2017, 02:59:14 pm
Hiring a good is hard and fans always think established X coach will leave for their program.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 03:23:59 pm
Why is Mullen leaving a good sec job for a mediocre one?

Who are you a fan of?

Mediocre?

Mediocre as in having a bad run Ill agree with but every program goes through that.

Nothing else about a top 10 all time winningest program is mediocre.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 12, 2017, 03:33:03 pm
Any program can have a rough couple decades.

Tennessee isn’t a top 10 team by wins or winning percentage.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 04:41:58 pm
Wrong...

https://www.google.com/amp/social.quintevents.com/bid/204365/the-top-10-winningest-college-football-teams-and-coaches-of-all-time%3fhs_amp=true
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 12, 2017, 05:59:50 pm
I see a top 10 list in your link, I don’t see Tennessee listed...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 12, 2017, 06:17:22 pm
Harvard and Penn are no longer Div 1 schools, so Tennessee sneaks in.. its in the fine print.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 06:36:09 pm
https://youtu.be/-rBkdXRV3Cw
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 12, 2017, 06:50:56 pm
Harvard and Penn are no longer Div 1 schools, so Tennessee sneaks in.. its in the fine print.

Yet they have more national championships than Tennessee and are still on the list.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 07:38:51 pm
Where's Creighton on it?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 12, 2017, 07:44:01 pm
Quote
Former Oregon and NFL coach Chip Kelly: I talked to somebody close to Kelly who said if he felt the people were right, he might be interested in a place like Tennessee. The lack of stability there could be an issue. I would be surprised if he's in the mix, but I wouldn't write it off. -- Rittenberg

That’s who UT needs to go all-in on.  If they play their cards right, they might even have a punchers chance on him.  It sounds like UT’s facilities are better than Florida’s, and Guarantano seems like a tailor made fit for his offense. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 08:14:49 pm
Gruden and Mullen...

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/11/why_jon_gruden_to_tennessee_ru.html
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 08:17:15 pm
Im not making this up so dont hate on me but I learned tonight that word is Chip Kelly is gay.

That wont fly in the good ol' SEC.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 08:19:05 pm
https://www.google.com/amp/www.phillymag.com/news/2013/01/17/google-asks-chip-kelly-gay-eagles-coach/%3famp=1
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 12, 2017, 08:50:05 pm
Where's Creighton on it?

Creighton hasn’t had a football team since the 1940’s. Creighton’s men basketball team has a much better history than Tennessee, especially since the only time they’ve been good was under a known cheater in Bruce Pearl. I know it is tough for Tennesee’s fan, but they are a women basketball school.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 12, 2017, 08:52:59 pm
UT currently has an active losing streak against every other team in the SEC.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 12, 2017, 08:54:43 pm
Omaha Creighton Prep is pretty tough.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 12, 2017, 09:31:51 pm
Creighton hasn’t had a football team since the 1940’s. Creighton’s men basketball team has a much better history than Tennessee, especially since the only time they’ve been good was under a known cheater in Bruce Pearl. I know it is tough for Tennesee’s fan, but they are a women basketball school.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_teams_with_the_most_victories_in_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_college_basketball

Tennessee mens basketball comes in at a much better than expected 44th all time in wins.

Creighton not on the list unfortunately.

And I can assure you that you all care more about UT womens basketball than the people around here do.

The only people who watch it here are kids,blue hairs, and butch's.

The do sell out regularly though if you consider every boy scout,girl scout,and rec league sport kid around gets free tickets.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 12, 2017, 10:10:03 pm
Whoopsy  http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21393623/tennessee-volunteers-see-four-decommitments-butch-jones-firing
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 12, 2017, 11:59:34 pm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_teams_with_the_most_victories_in_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_college_basketball

Tennessee mens basketball comes in at a much better than expected 44th all time in wins.

Creighton not on the list unfortunately.

And I can assure you that you all care more about UT womens basketball than the people around here do.

The only people who watch it here are kids,blue hairs, and butch's.

The do sell out regularly though if you consider every boy scout,girl scout,and rec league sport kid around gets free tickets.

All time wins are dependent on seasons played. Tennessee started in 1909 and Creighton started in 1915 + 1 year in 1911 and they are only 76 wins behind Tennessee. Creighton has .605 winning percentage to Tennessee .607.

Creighton is top 5 in national attendance and is significantly out recruiting Tennessee. It won’t be long until Creighton catches Tennessee in both wins and percentage.


Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 13, 2017, 02:56:22 am
But they havent yet so thats why I was wondering where this leg you got to talk **** on came from.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 13, 2017, 06:42:21 am
Because being #44 on an all time win list isn’t impressive and I thought you could handle it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 15, 2017, 03:12:00 pm
OK Dusty, I'll raise the chances UT can convince Gruden to leave ESPN from 0% to maybe 5%.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21421918
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 15, 2017, 03:14:30 pm
If they offer to make him the highest paid college football coach he's not going to say no especially if it's one of these sweetheart deals that's an 8 year contract with half your salary per year in a buyout so if you fail in three years you still make 20 million 25 million in a buyout
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 15, 2017, 03:23:53 pm
He sure didnt say "no"...

https://youtu.be/xuDzAnCKLUc
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 15, 2017, 03:29:00 pm
There's so much smoke to this it'll blind you that's why I stopped posting everything here because I dont know what to believe.

Believing and hoping are two different things.

I do believe the longer this draws out the less likely it's Gruden.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 15, 2017, 04:13:57 pm
Im starting to think we might have caught our big fish.

You all dont care so I wont say another word about it until a coach is named.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 15, 2017, 04:31:08 pm
If they offer to make him the highest paid college football coach he's not going to say no especially if it's one of these sweetheart deals that's an 8 year contract with half your salary per year in a buyout so if you fail in three years you still make 20 million 25 million in a buyout
Hell, I'll take that deal.  If I onside every kickoff, I should be fishing in no time.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 15, 2017, 05:53:48 pm
Thats basically what charlie weiss did...

If gruden is given a chance to double his substantial net worth in a term of 3 years... he will do it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 15, 2017, 05:58:52 pm
Im starting to think we might have caught our big fish.

You all dont care so I wont say another word about it until a coach is named.

Very high school girl of you... who is the big fish? Nick Saban?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 15, 2017, 06:08:50 pm
Ive always been told that college football is a lot more important in the SEC than it is anywhere else so if you're not from around here you wouldnt understand but people go batshit crazy over this stuff.

Im talking 5000 post threads getting filled up every day with "Grumors" so you dont really know what to believe.

I mean these folks are tracking planes and everything.

From what I can see and it could all be dead wrong it's starting to look like its close to happening as in 24-48 hours.

The fact that UTs AD has been telling recruits that they'd have a coach in a matter of days says it's a currently unemployed coach.

The rumor mill says we're meeting with him tonight to close the deal and he sure didnt deny interest on M&M.

Also assistant coaches are starting to come out and say that Gruden has contacted them.

Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 16, 2017, 10:06:07 am
Very high school girl of you... who is the big fish? Nick Saban?

Stop posting stuff like that or the next thing you know we'll get Roy Moore on the board.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 16, 2017, 11:51:09 am
Best evidence yet. I think we've caught our big fish...

https://twitter.com/DylonMcGregor13/status/931206754150572037
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 16, 2017, 12:50:53 pm
BTW... i am confused... why hire gruden? does he have some super awesome recruiting abilities i'm unaware of? seems like a recipe for failure to throw him into SEC recruiting.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on November 17, 2017, 06:58:45 am
So today is the last day for the Mike and Mike morning show.  It will now be Trey Wingo and Mike Golic.

Mike Greenberg is going to be named the UT head coach at the end of today's show.  Tune in now so you don't miss it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: jacey1 on November 17, 2017, 12:06:22 pm
But Greenie isn't a big fish...he's a minnow
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: wmljohn on November 17, 2017, 02:00:23 pm
But Greenie isn't a big fish...he's a minnow

He may be a baby whale.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 17, 2017, 04:28:03 pm
If UT hires another Google coach like Mike Norvell I might just have to admit we are a mediocre program.

I'd rather have David Cutcliffe.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 17, 2017, 04:59:26 pm
Yeah, Norvell hasn't had any success...he'd be a horrible choice.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 17, 2017, 08:34:07 pm
Yeah, Norvell hasn't had any success...he'd be a horrible choice.

Innovative coaches are not interested in the UT job when UF job is available... 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 17, 2017, 09:27:35 pm
Man you all are trying your best to talk **** to me. Lol
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on November 17, 2017, 11:52:32 pm
Man you all are trying your best to talk **** to me. Lol

I don't know....from someone not involved in said talking, their efforts really seem half-hearted at best.  I think most posters could do a much better job if they applied themselves.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 18, 2017, 12:11:08 am
Oh Im certain of it.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 18, 2017, 05:58:10 pm
Looks like the chances of Jon Gruden going back to his roots and rejoining the Big Orange are getting stronger and stronger . . .

Quote
Jon Gruden - C - Free Agent

Pewter Report’s Scott Reynolds believes there’s "interest on both sides" between the Bucs and Jon Gruden.

Gruden has been broadcasting with ESPN since getting fired from Tampa in 2008. He’s turned down multiple offers from teams, but hasn’t ruled out a return to coaching. With Dirk Koetter on the hot seat, it’s possible the Bucs reunite with Gruden after the season. Tampa has a franchise quarterback in Jameis Winston and a playoff-caliber roster. There are behind-the-scene rumors the Bucs are the job Gruden wants.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 18, 2017, 09:23:40 pm
Big Oranges ass.

That's why he was in Knoxville again today.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 18, 2017, 10:35:58 pm
Ill say this.

You all have known me for 15 years and you all know Ive been wrong a million times but either we've got Jon Gruden or he absolutely loves trolling Tennessee fans.

Ill believe it when he steps to the podium.

Im betting Dan Mullen or Mike Norvell.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 18, 2017, 10:38:56 pm
Mike Riley is a nice guy who has overseen a number of mediocre programs.  Give him a call.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 18, 2017, 10:54:06 pm
I love you Curt.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 18, 2017, 11:10:55 pm
FAU has an young coach. Either Nebraska or Tennessee should give him a call.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Bennett on November 19, 2017, 12:44:46 am
One of the slickest football plays you'll ever see. 

It reminds me of when the second half of a basketball game still started with a jump ball and the teammates of the guy who got the tip all ran towards the wrong basket.  The defense followed them and the guy with the ball went in for an uncontested layup.

https://youtu.be/7m2UpE_Ei7s
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 19, 2017, 03:03:17 am
FAU has an young coach. Either Nebraska or Tennessee should give him a call.

I'd take Lane back in a second over some of the names Ive seen.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jack Birdbath on November 19, 2017, 06:46:01 am
Big Oranges ass.

That's why he was in Knoxville again today.

He was not in Knoxville.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 19, 2017, 08:06:30 am
Lol

I know now but I assume you saw the picture with Peyton Manning that was going around.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Ray on November 19, 2017, 09:23:33 am
I'm thinking it's going to be Les Miles.  He must miss losing to Bama and no one does that better than Tennessee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 19, 2017, 11:30:07 pm
It's funny, but the one thing GarPax have done right - Markkanen - was pure luck.  They never even scouted him, just picked him because he was the highest-ranked played left on the board.  You almost hope he's not enough to save their jobs, but the kid is for real - he's going to be an All-Star caliber player within a year or two.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 20, 2017, 07:05:47 pm
I bet he is...

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Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 21, 2017, 07:46:11 pm
The Bulls were tanking in hopes of getting freshman Michael Porter Jr in the draft. Porter just underwent back surgery and is out for the year. GarPax are going to have to come up with a new "strategy".
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: vander-built on November 21, 2017, 07:55:49 pm
He'll still come out this year and Bagley and Doncic are rated just as high.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 21, 2017, 08:41:38 pm
Doncic is the best player on the board, so if the Bulls don't screw up getting the #1 pick that's the guy they should be after.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 21, 2017, 11:37:16 pm
You always think the foreign player in the best player.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 22, 2017, 01:32:55 am
Me and the vast majority of scouts covering this draft.  But whatever paranoid fantasy floats your boat.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 22, 2017, 02:02:02 am
It's paranoid to notice you praise foreign players in baseball and basketball to a high degree. Guessing everyone's paranoid then.

Anywho, here are a few links to draft rankings that have Doncic somewhere other than #1, and that was on the first page of search results.

https://www.si.com/nba/nba-draft-2018-prospect-rankings-big-board

http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/no-slam-dunk-michael-porters-back-surgery-plants-doubt-into-2018-nba-draft/

https://www.si.com/nba/nba-mock-draft-2018

https://247sports.com/Article/Big-Board-Top-20-prospects-for-the-2018-NBA-Draft-109796264




Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Exile236 on November 22, 2017, 07:18:26 pm
He'll still come out this year and Bagley and Doncic are rated just as high.

Ayton as well.

It was, before this, very clearly a (rotating) Top 4 player draft with Doncic, Ayton, Bagley, and Porter headlining... and then Mohammed Bamba as the 5th guy after those four.

FWIW Ayton would be my choice as of this moment.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2017, 07:17:27 pm
As the final hours of the coaching search wind down it looks like these 3 names are our top targets...

Jon Gruden,Chris Petersen,and Dan Mullen.

Wiki says we've hired our man...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Petersen

I think it's gonna be Mullen.

I'd be fine with any of those 3 or even David Cutcliffe or Kiffin.

It don't have to be Gruden.

Just get us a good one and not a bargain hire like Norvell,Campbell, or Bobo.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2017, 07:20:58 pm
Looks like Frost to Nebraska and Chip Kelly probably to UCLA.

Arkansas fired Bret Bielema.

I could see Ole Miss wanting him.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 24, 2017, 08:03:19 pm
LOL, no...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2017, 08:28:06 pm
I bet you're hoping Norvell right?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 24, 2017, 09:14:14 pm
Any day over Bielema...

I actually like Wilson from UTSA.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 24, 2017, 10:27:59 pm
Thats me with Cutcliffe.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 25, 2017, 04:29:09 am
I’d be shocked if Petersen leaves the West coast. He has a lot of family ties out there.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Chris27 on November 25, 2017, 05:21:02 am
The Bulls gave up 143 points to the Warriors on Friday despite the absence of Durant and Green. You almost have to try to be that pitiful.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Deeg on November 25, 2017, 09:51:56 am
The best part was the way Bell trolled them at every turn (and Kerr gave him a start expressly for that reason).  What an embarrassment of a franchise.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 25, 2017, 10:43:17 am
Riley fired at Nebraska.  #1 candidate for Tennessee. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 25, 2017, 11:37:02 am
Looks like Greg Schiano is an option.

Ugh...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 25, 2017, 11:45:10 am
I think it’s hilarious that you want no part of Norvell, yet he’s about to be 10-1 with a QB that UT had, but didn’t want, and a team where the best players on both sides of the ball are walk-ons that weren’t recruited by anyone.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 25, 2017, 01:15:53 pm
Dave Ive been a sports nut since I was about 5 years old.

Ive either been playing,watching,playing the video games,selling programs to go to the UT football games for free,or something my  entire life and when I have to Google a mans name in a coach search thats saying something.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Dave23 on November 25, 2017, 01:32:43 pm
I agree. If you don’t know the name of the guy who coaches the best team in your home state, that is definitely saying something.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 25, 2017, 01:33:08 pm
Dave Ive been a sports nut since I was about 5 years old.

Ive either been playing,watching,playing the video games,selling programs to go to the UT football games for free,or something my  entire life and when I have to Google a mans name in a coach search thats saying something.
It tells me that you finally learned how to Google.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: Jes Beard on November 25, 2017, 06:03:13 pm
I agree. If you don’t know the name of the guy who coaches the best team in your home state, that is definitely saying something.

But is it telling you anything you didn't already know?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 11:48:22 am
If its Greg Schiano then I get to start playing more cheap golf in the Fall.

I wont partake in it.

I wont quit them or root against them but I wont be buying any hats or t shirts either.

Maybe we have become mediocre.

Jenny McCarthy used to be a dime back in the day too.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 12:40:29 pm
I saw something about Mike Leach today.  Now that would be a really good hire.  That’s probably the most feasible thing I’ve seen so far that would be a great move I think.

Honestly I think Leach would be a better hire than Gruden regardless.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 26, 2017, 12:57:25 pm
What's Pat Head'sson doing these days?  He's a coach,  right?
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 26, 2017, 01:27:02 pm
Schiano isn’t a bad hire, but the Vol message boards are fun.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 26, 2017, 01:28:19 pm
that sure is a big fish. i guess Grumors were just that.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 01:35:49 pm
I absolutely **** hate it.

You all were right.

We have become mediocre.

My Carson Newman Eagle fandom just rose considerably.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 26, 2017, 01:38:24 pm
It is hard to hire an established coach and their was never a chance Gruden was taking the job.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 01:47:38 pm
Barrett Sallee
Twitter › BarrettSallee
Tennessee ending up with Schiano when Florida ends up with Mullen would be like a Vol fan accidentally receiving salad when he ordered a $50 steak at a nice steakhouse.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CurtOne on November 26, 2017, 02:16:56 pm
Other teams in the SEC better better be careful when they have a large lead at game's end and they are taking a knee.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 03:22:06 pm
Students are protesting and state reps are raising hell too.

Just hire Kiffin or Cutcliffe back for God's sake.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 03:47:07 pm
Give me Cutcliffe and Chavis back and Ill sing Rocky Top louder than anybody.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 03:49:16 pm
@danharralson

Greg Schiano is currently concerned with the climate of the Tennessee fan base and the reaction towards reports of his contract being finalized at Tennessee. The deal may not get finalized.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 04:01:44 pm
The thing to be concerned about now is whoever they bring in everyone knows is going to be the second or third choice.  That's how you wind up with coaches like Derek Dooley.

That AD really ought to be fired right away.  It doesn't sound like they made much of an effort to get Chip Kelly in, and someone obviously didn't do their homework vetting Schiano and his apparent concealing of Jerry Sandusky's crimes before it getting this far with him.  What a fiasco.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 04:18:16 pm
And Im sure you love it dont you JR?

Currie better get us a good coach and fast or his tenure here will be a short one.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 04:21:22 pm
No actually I think this sucks.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 26, 2017, 04:21:38 pm
The thing to be concerned about now is whoever they bring in everyone knows is going to be the second or third choice.  That's how you wind up with coaches like Derek Dooley.

That AD really ought to be fired right away.  It doesn't sound like they made much of an effort to get Chip Kelly in, and someone obviously didn't do their homework vetting Schiano and his apparent concealing of Jerry Sandusky's crimes before it getting this far with him.  What a fiasco.

Or you can be Southern Cal and hire your sixth choice, Pete Carroll.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 04:29:56 pm
Or you can be Southern Cal and hire your sixth choice, Pete Carroll.

Good point there.
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Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 05:17:50 pm
There's plenty of good coaches to still be had.

Just gonna have to pay for them.

I bet Kevin Sumlin would enjoy Knoxville.
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Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 05:20:20 pm
I will admit that Ive never seen a fanbase revolt like this and say "hell no" and it work though.
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Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 07:28:21 pm
Yeah I don't think I've seen that before either.

And I never thought I'd see the day UT fans would almost welcome back Lane Kiffin with open arms, but it seems like the Schiano near-hire did that too.
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Post by: CUBluejays on November 26, 2017, 07:34:19 pm
Good point there.

This isn't really just having people say no to you.  This is a mess and it might put the AD's job at risk.  Nobody is going to want to go a place with that much turmoil.  Kiffin might be a best case for the Vols.  I had no clue about the Penn State issues with Schiano, I wonder if he can keep his job with OSU?

Closest I can remember to this is when ND fired O'Leary after a weak for puffing up his resume and ended up with Ty.  ND background screens now take weeks to get a hire approved.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 07:44:16 pm
Other teams in the SEC better better be careful when they have a large lead at game's end and they are taking a knee.

That was Peyton Manning he pulled that stunt against too.


Maybe Peyton had a change of heart with Schiano after that was over with, but I'm surprised he'd be on board with a decision like that. 
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Post by: Dave23 on November 26, 2017, 08:17:47 pm
There’s a little bit of Twitter buzz re: a private plane flying back and forth between Oxford and Boca Raton.

Oxford, of course, is Ole Miss. Boca is FAU.

I’m not sure what to think about it...
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Post by: Dave23 on November 26, 2017, 08:24:10 pm
And never mind any of that...just heard that Ole Miss is keeping Matt Luke...
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Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 08:48:25 pm
Lane Kiffin is about the best UT could hope for now.
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Post by: Dave23 on November 26, 2017, 09:20:01 pm
After UT pays the Schiano buyout, they will be lucky to get Maryville’s coach...
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Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 09:40:28 pm
Are they going to owe Schiano a buyout?  Holy crap ...
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: method on November 26, 2017, 09:43:49 pm
No contract only a MOU. Fiasco.

They were in a good spot till UF needed a coach.
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Post by: guest61 on November 26, 2017, 10:36:11 pm
Its a mess.

Whatever.

I cant act like I dont care because you all know I do but its just F'd up beyond all repair.

The names now are Jeff Brohm and Tee Martin.

At least my Cubs are finally good.
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Post by: CurtOne on November 26, 2017, 10:42:25 pm
Gee.  Mike Riley's startin' to look good!
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Post by: CUBluejays on November 26, 2017, 10:55:41 pm
No contract only a MOU. Fiasco.

Depending on what is in a MOU it might be a legally enforceable contract.
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Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2017, 03:15:05 am
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/as-tennessee-again-finds-itself-engulfed-in-flames-lane-kiffin-waits-by-his-phone/
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Post by: CurtOne on November 27, 2017, 07:02:34 am
Les Miles is a name that has fallen off everyone's radar, hasn't he?
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Post by: JR on November 27, 2017, 10:17:07 am
Nashville radio is ripping what happened to Schiano this morning, which I don't really listen to that much.  Pretty decent point but Schiano was talked about for a while even from their callers as a decent possibility all week last week, and there wasn't anything mentioned about Penn State until yesterday. 

This has got to be one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen. 

I wonder what would have happened if they named Schiano on Tuesday or Wednesday instead of the exact same day Florida announced Dan Mullen.  I wonder if there would have been as much of an uproar. 

All in all, still a major F up from the UT AD.
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Post by: Jack Birdbath on November 27, 2017, 10:31:32 am
If John Gruden or Chip Kelly had the same Penn State background, these people wouldn't say a word. This is the same football program that just had to settle for multimillions in a **** coverup case. These people don't care about having a good person as the coach. They just want a good coach and Schiano is not that.
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Post by: CurtOne on November 27, 2017, 10:37:32 am
I didn't know about Penn State, but what I seemed to recall is the anti-victory formation crap when he was at Tampa Bay and then there were reports of him being a bit abusive with the Rutgers players.  Frankly, I put him in the same class of coaches with Pelini and Callahan.  Good results but not a whole lot of friends along the way.
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Post by: JR on November 27, 2017, 10:40:23 am
I didn't know about Penn State, but what I seemed to recall is the anti-victory formation crap when he was at Tampa Bay and then there were reports of him being a bit abusive with the Rutgers players. 

Yeah that's where Schiano rubbed me the wrong way.  That anti-victory formation thing was ridiculous.

He would have been a C grade hire for sure even before he got ran out.
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Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2017, 11:52:29 am
I wont lie.

My anger yesterday had nothing to do with the Penn State stuff.

It was because we hired a shitty coach.
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Post by: method on November 27, 2017, 12:18:35 pm
Problem is UT fan's think they are a class A program when they are not even in the top 5 in their own conference. I am sure the AD vetted other candidates and then went after the guy he felt he could sign. There was no way Mullen was going to UT when UF was available as a job, he has ties to UF. Kelly was signed for a fairly low price contract so obviously was not a target for UT.  It also appears there are bigger spenders looking for coaches in Nebraska and Texas A&M, that relegates you to an also ran coach like Schiano.
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Post by: jacey1 on November 27, 2017, 12:20:03 pm
JR- Hasn't Schiano denied all knowledge of the Sandusky stuff? To my knowledge, he is not connected to that creep or what he did, only that he worked at PSU at the time

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Post by: Jack Birdbath on November 27, 2017, 12:22:45 pm
Of course he has denied it. They all have. However, there is tons of evidence that his behavior was fairly common knowledge and nobody did a thing. maybe he was one of the few guys who was there and managed to see or hear nothing but that seems very unlikely.
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Post by: JR on November 27, 2017, 12:31:55 pm
JR- Hasn't Schiano denied all knowledge of the Sandusky stuff? To my knowledge, he is not connected to that creep or what he did, only that he worked at PSU at the time

The only thing connecting him was Mike McQueary's testimony in 2015 that another assistant told him that Schiano told the assistant he witnessed a ****. 

Who knows at this point?
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Post by: CurtOne on November 27, 2017, 12:44:24 pm
The only thing connecting him was Mike McQueary's testimony in 2015 that another assistant told him that Schiano told the assistant he witnessed a ****. 

Who knows at this point?
But the paper boy and his sister's baby sitter denied it, too.
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Post by: method on November 27, 2017, 12:45:28 pm
I think credence was given to it, as it appeared that McQueary was fairly credible.
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Post by: Deeg on November 27, 2017, 12:45:37 pm
It's hard (maybe impossible) to believe anyone on Paterno's staff didn't know what was going on. Half the school seems to have known about it.
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Post by: CurtOne on November 27, 2017, 12:52:15 pm
For me, the big red flag was when Sandusky, reputed to be the best linebacker coach in the country, retired and nobody, but nobody, particularly Paterno tried to talk him out of it.  As a matter of fact, it was reported by the University along with the fact that Prof Jenkins got a hair cut and a freshman girl has a really bad cold.  There are stories that Sandusky quit when he was told he would NEVER be head coach even when Papa quit.  Perhaps even by Papa.  Why?  Too many coincidences; too many curiosities.
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Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2017, 12:55:27 pm
I cant say anything you all have said is wrong.

All I will add is we consistently add top 5-10 recruiting classes so I know the talent is there and we should have no problem paying enough to attract a solid coach.

Whether its Kiffin,Cutcliffe,Sumlin,Norvell,or Martin somebody's looking for a payday.

As far as how good we are. No one is saying we're Alabama or Georgia but nobody else in the SEC is that special.

A good hire in the next few days will keep the football program in solid 8-9 win standing but there still may be problems in the AD.
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Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2017, 12:58:29 pm
Its looking like Tee Martin and that will unite the fanbase. Will we be national title contenders? Probably not but people will still buy tickets and be happy with 8 win seasons and smoking big 10 teams in mediocre bowl games and if he's good we get him for the next 20 years.
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Post by: CUBluejays on November 27, 2017, 01:34:04 pm
I cant say anything you all have said is wrong.

All I will add is we consistently add top 5-10 recruiting classes so I know the talent is there and we should have no problem paying enough to attract a solid coach.


From 2010-2017 they only had 3 top 10 classes (last was 2015)and they years they did they had 32,30, and 27 recruits and comprised 3 Five star, 41 4 star and 41 3 star recruits.  Alabama's last 3 recruiting classes have 15 5 star, 46 4 star, 16 3 star recruits.  There is a huge talent gap.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 27, 2017, 01:39:23 pm
Hopefully Martin will be great if it's him, but they probably would be better off with Schiano if there wasn't the revolt.  Martin's a better pick to go with than Cutcliffe though.  He's probably as good as anyone to stop the bleeding at this point.


Still, what a badly handled coaching search. 
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Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2017, 01:50:23 pm
From 2010-2017 they only had 3 top 10 classes (last was 2015)and they years they did they had 32,30, and 27 recruits and comprised 3 Five star, 41 4 star and 41 3 star recruits.  Alabama's last 3 recruiting classes have 15 5 star, 46 4 star, 16 3 star recruits.  There is a huge talent gap.

I never said we were Alabama and if we're talking about a huge talent gap with them then we're talking about every team in America but about 5.
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Post by: Bennett on November 27, 2017, 02:08:28 pm
I never said we were Alabama and if we're talking about a huge talent gap with them then we're talking about every team in America but about 5.
Exactly correct when it comes to procuring new talent.  Like they used to say about Notre Dame, they don't recruit, they select.
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Post by: CUBluejays on November 27, 2017, 04:28:07 pm
I never said we were Alabama and if we're talking about a huge talent gap with them then we're talking about every team in America but about 5.

3 top 10 classes in 8 years isn't consistently top 5 or top 10 and those 3 top 10 classes where due entirely to numbers not the quality of the class.  There is a large talent gap between Tennessee and other programs. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 27, 2017, 05:41:26 pm
Keep hatin brother.

Im at Monday Night RAW at UT right now and Im fully expecting Lane Kiffin to come out Hollywood Hogan style to Voodoo Child.
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Post by: CurtOne on November 27, 2017, 05:45:24 pm
LOL
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Post by: CurtOne on November 27, 2017, 05:46:23 pm
I can see Kiffin taking the UT job only to jump to A&M next week.
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Post by: Ray on November 27, 2017, 06:04:24 pm
I can see Kiffin taking the UT job only to jump to A&M next week.

That would be so awesome.  I'd go read the Tennessee boards for that.  If nothing else, it'd finally get that lane kiffin sewage plant name change thru.
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Post by: Bennett on November 27, 2017, 06:04:31 pm
Keep hatin brother.

Im at Monday Night RAW at UT right now and Im fully expecting Lane Kiffin to come out Hollywood Hogan style to Voodoo Child.
I’m beginning to hate how the word hate is used on the internet.  If say I prefer player A over player B, it won’t be long before someone asks me why I hate player B.  I hate when that happens.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 27, 2017, 06:13:46 pm
I'm amazed by all the newfound Kiffin love after the Schiano fiasco.  One of our local sports radio stations did a Twitter poll on who their listeners want to be the new UT coach, and Kiffin was first with 40% of the vote.

This is almost like longing for the ex-wife who slept with all of your friends and cleaned out your bank account on the divorce settlement.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 27, 2017, 06:39:41 pm
Lane Kiffin is more Brooklyn Brawler.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 27, 2017, 10:20:03 pm
Greg Schiano might look like the second coming of Lombardi by time Tennessee settles on somebody.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21591832/david-cutcliffe-duke-told-tennessee-not-interested-vols-head-coaching-vacancy
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Post by: CurtOne on November 27, 2017, 10:58:17 pm
The UT AD cost them a lot of money.  Whoever they get won't come cheap.  They may even have to go back to Gruden or Schiano and offer millions more.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 01:17:37 am
Tee Martin or Lane Kiffin seem to be the leaders.

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Post by: CurtOne on November 28, 2017, 08:14:56 am
Jon Gruden's secretary: "Mr. Gruden, it's that dumbass from Tennessee on the phone again.  Are you in?"
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Post by: JR on November 28, 2017, 08:36:45 am
Wow . . .


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPudn1JWkAAJmpT.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: JR on November 28, 2017, 08:42:21 am
I thought that Gruden stuff was crazy to begin with, but people wanting Kiffin back after he was probably the most hated guy in the state 7 years ago . . .

By the way, Kiffin's college coaching record, mostly spent at UT and USC, isn't that much better than Schiano's record in the years after he got Rutgers turned around.  That's one coach at UT and USC and another guy at Rutgers by the way.
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Post by: method on November 28, 2017, 09:06:28 am
In those years rutgers was not in the best of conferences. Schiano did great in the C-USA. Kiffin did it in the Pac-10 and SEC.
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Post by: CUBluejays on November 28, 2017, 09:07:41 am
Lane Kiffin as a football coach is not great. Lane Kiffin on twitter is amazing.
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Post by: method on November 28, 2017, 09:10:47 am
He's a great recruiter, good offensive coordinator.
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Post by: CurtOne on November 28, 2017, 09:14:18 am
Kiffin makes the most sense for the UT AD.  It will immediately deflect all the crap he's dumped on himself, as Lane will create stupid Trumplike headlines as soon as he opens his mouth.
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Post by: JR on November 28, 2017, 09:46:17 am
In those years rutgers was not in the best of conferences. Schiano did great in the C-USA. Kiffin did it in the Pac-10 and SEC.

Fair enough point, although Lane never really did much of anything in the SEC and Pac-10 as a head coach. 
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 12:02:54 pm
Mike Gundy?
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Post by: jacey1 on November 28, 2017, 12:11:49 pm
Abe Gibron?
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Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 12:13:34 pm
If we end up with Kiffin or Gundy we'll have rolled around in a pile of dog **** and come out smelling like roses.
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Post by: Ray on November 28, 2017, 12:19:41 pm
I think, at this point, it's fair to say that where ever Schiano goes next, he'll become a near Saban level coach, leaving Tennessee to kick themselves for decades.  Not like Saban was great at Mich State. 57% win percentage I think tho that could be wrong. 
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Post by: JR on November 28, 2017, 12:23:06 pm
Mike Gundy?

Gundy would be a big time home run after the craziness the last few days.  Should have just gone to him from the start if they really are able to get him.
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Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 01:01:46 pm
Peyton Manning doing work today recruiting Gundy.
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Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 01:02:35 pm
Lane's down to come back...

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Post by: CUBluejays on November 28, 2017, 01:10:02 pm
He's a great recruiter, good offensive coordinator.

I'm really familiar with Lane's work at USC.  You have to be a horrific recruiter to not bring in talent to that school.  Lane didn't recruit at the level Carroll did.  As an offensive coordinator he was a huge step from Norm Chow.  He did ok, but just like at Bama he had talent galore.  I could have done OK their.  As a ND fan I was sad when Lane was fired at USC.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 03:04:19 pm
Chris Low
@ClowESPN
Tennessee AD John Currie has made his pitch to Mike Gundy today in Dallas. Oklahoma State is home for Gundy, but he talked last week by phone with Peyton Manning and was impressed. Vols are prepared to make Gundy one of the SEC’s highest paid coaches if he takes the job.
3:38 PM · Nov 28, 2017
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 03:05:03 pm
I told you all somebody's looking to get paid every day.
Title: Re: Other Sports
Post by: CUBluejays on November 28, 2017, 03:54:35 pm
Or get a raise from your current school......
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Post by: guest61 on November 28, 2017, 05: