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Title: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on February 16, 2011, 11:56:25 am
dedicated to the memory of Perry (oldfan) Nichols...we miss ya, oldfan!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on February 16, 2011, 01:59:22 pm
Well, I'm glad I kept the same user name, then.  :)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on February 18, 2011, 11:02:32 am
Today's Trivia


1. Which Cubs pitcher was the first pitcher to ever toss a one-hitter in the World Series?
2. Name the five players the Cubs traded to the Boston Braves in exchange for Rogers Hornsby.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on February 18, 2011, 01:59:29 pm
(http://i3.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/lens5074342_1244293758harrycaray.jpg)
 
March 1, 1914 - February 18, 1998
 
R.I.P., Harry
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on February 18, 2011, 02:10:21 pm
That wouldn't be a home run in a phone booth
http://www.drodd.com/images6/popfly.wav (http://www.drodd.com/images6/popfly.wav)
 
Here we see Marla Collins without shorts for the first time
http://www.drodd.com/images6/Harry-Marla%20Collins.mp3 (http://www.drodd.com/images6/Harry-Marla%20Collins.mp3)
 
Many more Harry classics
http://www.drodd.com/html2/harry-caray-sounds.html (http://www.drodd.com/html2/harry-caray-sounds.html)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on February 18, 2011, 02:26:12 pm
Good to see there's no time limit on editing one's own messages.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on February 18, 2011, 03:14:45 pm

Trivia Answers


1. The first pitcher to toss a one-hitter in the World Series was Ed Reulbach of the Cubs, who surrendered just a seventh-inning single to White Sox first baseman Jiggs Donahue in Game 2 of the 1906 Fall Classic.
2. On November 7, 1928, the Cubs traded Bruce Cunningham, Percy Jones, Lou Legett, Freddie Maguire, Socks Seibold and $200,000 to the Boston Braves for future Hall of Fame second baseman Rogers Hornsby.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on February 21, 2011, 11:04:46 am
Today's Trivia


What Cubs player was the last Major League pitcher to hit a pair of doubles in one inning?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on February 21, 2011, 01:13:19 pm
Today's Trivia


What Cubs player was the last Major League pitcher to hit a pair of doubles in one inning?

Was he on the mound the day he hit the doubles?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on February 21, 2011, 01:17:49 pm
Who said it was a he?  :)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on February 21, 2011, 01:18:46 pm
Seriously, if you mean was he pitching the game in which he hit the doubles, I don't know.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on February 21, 2011, 02:59:48 pm
Trivia Answer

In the first game of a doubleheader on May 5, 1946, Cubs pitcher Hank Borowy smacked a pair of doubles in one inning, the last Major League pitcher to turn the trick.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on February 21, 2011, 05:45:29 pm
Scroll down to the bottom.  He became a pitcher later in his career

http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Hal_Jeffcoat_1924&page=chronology
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on February 22, 2011, 07:04:10 am
Gotcha.  But he wasn't a pitcher when he had the two doubles in that inning.
Title: Today's Trivia
Post by: FITS on February 22, 2011, 11:04:49 am
What pitcher did the Cubs purchase from the Yankees in July of 1945?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on March 31, 2011, 08:59:29 am
George F. Will's annual baseball column is trivia this year.

Who played the most regular-season games without ever playing a post-season game?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/an_opening_day_quiz_vroiTjboxU3BueWntUEiyM?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME= (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/an_opening_day_quiz_vroiTjboxU3BueWntUEiyM?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on March 31, 2011, 11:39:11 am
Ernie Banks
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on March 31, 2011, 12:32:21 pm
Which Cub played a central role in establishing the "color line" which kept blacks from playing before Jackie Robinson, and what was that role?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 01, 2011, 12:29:56 pm
At 21 years 8 days old, Starlin Castro is the youngest Cubs Opening Day starter since __?___ ____?____.   Only seven players younger than Castro have started on Opening Day for the Cubs. The youngest ever was Willie McGill, who was 19 years 168 days old for the season opener in 1893.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Tuffy on April 01, 2011, 06:02:51 pm
Cactus, Phil Cavarretta?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 01, 2011, 06:49:46 pm
Cactus, Phil Cavarretta?

Len Kasper announced it during the game.   It was Ken Hubbs in 1962.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Tuffy on April 02, 2011, 12:59:29 am
Ooh, that's a good one.  I'd forgotten how young he was when he joined the team.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 04, 2011, 09:10:55 am
April 4

1994 - Cubs outfielder Karl Rhodes, who hit three home runs in all of 1993, wallops three home runs off Mets starter Dwight Gooden on Opening Day at Wrigley Field. New York holds on for the 12-8 win, however.

1997 - Turner Field opens and the Braves christen it with a 5-4 come-from-behind win against the Cubs.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 04, 2011, 10:55:14 am
Today's Trivia

The Cubs first game at Weeghman Park/Wrigley Field took place on what date?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on April 04, 2011, 10:57:16 am
Wasn't it Cap Anson that refused to play or play against colored players?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 04, 2011, 11:28:15 am
Weegham - April 23, 1914
 
Wrigley  -  April 16, 1926
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on April 04, 2011, 11:45:36 am
First game at Weeghman Park was in 1916.  First game at Wrigley Field was 1926.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 04, 2011, 12:09:08 pm
Okay, I changed the question to reflect the names of the field.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 04, 2011, 12:27:50 pm
Wasn't it Cap Anson that refused to play or play against colored players?


It was.  Anson's performance on the field certainly earned him a spot in the Hall of Fame.  As the individual most directly responsible for the racial segregation of the game, refusing to allow his team to take the field if blacks played (at a time when the Cubs were the best team in the game), also earns him a spot in the Hall of Shame.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on April 04, 2011, 12:36:41 pm
Although I'm not excusing Anson, he was just reflecting the tempo of his time.  There were other instances of managers refusing to play against blacks, but he was the Babe Ruth of his day, so his refusal carried more weight. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 05, 2011, 12:30:31 am
April 5, 1997 - Just one day after the stadium's first game, Turner Field holds its first slumber party. Rain showers force Saturday night's Cubs-Braves game to be suspended in the seventh inning late Saturday night, but because of the change to daylight savings time and a day game on Sunday, several players decide to spend the night in the clubhouse at the brand-new stadium. The Braves win the completion of the suspended game, 11-5, and then win the regularly scheduled game, 4-0.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 05, 2011, 07:29:46 am
Trivia Answer (better late then never)


First CUBS game at Weeghman/Wrigley was April 20, 1916, a 7-6 victory over the Cincinnati Reds in 11 innings.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 05, 2011, 08:02:54 am
Although I'm not excusing Anson, he was just reflecting the tempo of his time.  There were other instances of managers refusing to play against blacks, but he was the Babe Ruth of his day, so his refusal carried more weight. 

No doubt there was plenty of racism to go around.  At the time of the Civil War, many norther states had laws on the books which did at least one of the following: 1) Prohibited blacks from living in any incorporated area in the state; 2) Made it illegal to employ blacks in any incorporated area in the state; or 3) Prohibited blacks from being present after dark in any incorporated are in the state.  Indiana (my home state) had all three.  Some states made it illegal for black to move into the state. 

None of that changes the fact that Anson led the resistance to blacks playing in organized baseball at the time, and without him leading the resistance, and refusing to allow his team to take the field if blacks played, the normal forces of market competition would likely have resulted in integration of baseball in the 1800's.  Not smoothly or in any friendly or embracing manner, but it likely would have happened.

And, even if it would not have happened, Anson's position on the issue still leaves him a POS.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Tuffy on April 05, 2011, 09:30:41 am
Jes, if you think integration would have happened in the late 1800s if not for Anson, why didn't it happen in the first decades of the 20th century, when Anson was out of baseball?

There was an explosion of talent on Negro teams, particularly in Chicago and New York, in those years.  Weren't there other racists preventing integration by then?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on April 05, 2011, 11:04:49 am
Read Anson's ghost written biography, available free through Amazon ebooks.  He comes off as an arrogant, self centered individual.  There is no mention of the color line in the book, but he had an acrimonious breakup with the Colts at the end of his career, and has lots to say about Spaulding and Chicago NL management.  (They weren't the Cubs before 1902).
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 05, 2011, 12:08:09 pm
Tuffy, integration WAS happening early in the 20th century.  The military and all federal offices were integrated before Woodrow Wilson was elected president.

He RE-segregated them.  Before Wilson blacks and whites worked side by side in government offices and in the military.  Wilson ended that.  The Klan had also faded to near nothingness by then.  Birth of a Nation, which was essentially an ode to the Klan, then came out, and Wilson very strongly praised the movie, which he claimed was not only important for everyone to see, but historically accurate.

He was the President.  And he was a former university professor and the president of Princeton University.  Folks accepted what he said about the movie, flocked to it and absorbed its racist message, one Wilson himself championed.

The Negro leagues did not begin to form until nearly 1920, and by then the Klan had enjoyed the greatest growth and popularity it has ever seen, at least in part because it was not only accepted by the establishment (Wilson), but virtually blessed as a wonderful organization with great ideals.

Before the Negro leagues, black players were able to barnstorm with white players, but that was about it.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 05, 2011, 12:16:00 pm
Today's Trivia


The 1977 Cubs donned black armbands on the sleeves of their jerseys in memory of whom?


Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: brs2 on April 05, 2011, 12:20:34 pm
To honor PK Wrigley.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Tuffy on April 05, 2011, 01:11:34 pm
Jes, I hadn't known that about Woodrow Wilson.  Interestnig stuff.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 05, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Jackie Robinson
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 05, 2011, 03:23:56 pm
brs2 is correct.  The armbands were worn in memory of Philip K. Wrigley.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 05, 2011, 03:24:22 pm
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Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 06, 2011, 11:19:56 am

Today's Trivia


In what year was the ivy planted on the outfield walls at Wrigley Field?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on April 06, 2011, 12:04:50 pm
1937
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 06, 2011, 01:13:59 pm
ClarkAddison is correct but to get a bit technical

The ivy grows on the back of the warning track and climbs the brick wall.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 06, 2011, 02:47:02 pm
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Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 06, 2011, 02:56:34 pm
No points for Cactus for his technicality.  :)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 07, 2011, 11:03:34 am
Today's Trivia


Which Hall of Fame catcher who managed the Cubs pioneered the use of shin guards?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on April 07, 2011, 11:10:14 am
Roger Bresnahan
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 07, 2011, 11:15:12 am
In one 11 year stretch, Bresnahan had 10 of the 11 years with an OPS+ of 129 or better.

Not bad.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 07, 2011, 02:59:05 pm
Trivia Answer.....


mO is correct.  Hall of Fame catcher Roger Bresnahan managed the Cubs in 1915 and pioneered the use of shin guards.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 07, 2011, 02:59:30 pm
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Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 08, 2011, 11:01:11 am
Today's Trivia


Who was the first Cubs pitcher to win the NL Cy Young Award?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on April 08, 2011, 11:20:36 am
Ferguson Jenkins
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 10, 2011, 01:44:13 pm
Iowa has been the AAA affiliate of the Chicago Cubs for 31 years.  They have been known as the Iowa Cubs for the last 30 years.  What was the team nickname in the first year?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on April 10, 2011, 01:49:42 pm
Oaks?  Seems it was some kind of tree or nut.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on April 10, 2011, 01:55:18 pm
Corn cobs?

Rubes?

Shirtless morons?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 10, 2011, 02:01:00 pm
Oaks?  Seems it was some kind of tree or nut.

Oaks is correct. ;D
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 11, 2011, 07:53:44 am
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Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 11, 2011, 12:11:01 pm
Today's Trivia


Cubs legend Ernie Banks is famous for saying "It's a beautiful day for a ballgame.  Let's play two!"  But he wasn't in Chicago in 1950 when the Cubs set this "record of futility."
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on April 11, 2011, 12:22:00 pm
Got shut out in both ends of a doubleheader in September against the Cardinals.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 11, 2011, 12:32:06 pm
Good answer, Clark, but not the one I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on April 11, 2011, 01:09:53 pm
True
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 11, 2011, 01:40:59 pm
Most rainouts?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JeffH on April 11, 2011, 01:48:44 pm
Most times on the losing end of a doubleheader sweep.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on April 11, 2011, 02:07:48 pm
Most times shutout in one season?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 11, 2011, 03:02:27 pm
Jeff is correct.  The 1950 Cubs lost two games in a day on 19 occasions that season.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 11, 2011, 03:03:38 pm
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Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 12, 2011, 12:21:58 am
April 12, 1912 -- The Chicago Cubs' Tinker-Evers-Chance double play combination played its final major league game together.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 12, 2011, 11:03:30 am
Today's Trivia


On what date was the first official night game at Wrigley Field?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on April 12, 2011, 11:06:41 am
8/9/88
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 12, 2011, 11:08:37 am
I have the answer five minutes after the question is asked and I'm already too late.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 12, 2011, 11:32:43 am
Gotta be quick 'round here, Cactus.  :)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 12, 2011, 02:12:34 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO_x7U7n8iU
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 12, 2011, 03:09:32 pm
mO is correct.


In case you didn't already know, the first game under the lights at Wrigley Field was scheduled for 8.8.88, but was rained out, so the first "official" game was the following night on 8.9.88.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 12, 2011, 03:09:56 pm
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Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 13, 2011, 10:59:38 am
Today's Trivia

Who is the only Cubs player to earn the MLB All-Star Game MVP Award?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on April 13, 2011, 11:01:35 am
Bill Madlock
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on April 13, 2011, 11:46:05 am
That was quick, mO.  You beat me to it.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 13, 2011, 11:54:57 am
Extra point up for grabs for whoever can name the player who shared the award that year.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on April 13, 2011, 12:50:20 pm
Shame that Madlock couldn't hit a curveball.  Think of it; he could have earned more than two batting titles and retired with better than his .308 (it was around there) that he did.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on April 13, 2011, 12:53:24 pm
John Matlack
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 13, 2011, 02:29:49 pm
We had to give JR grief for his use of PESEs.  Now it's mO's turn for the abuse.  :D
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on April 13, 2011, 02:33:28 pm
Don't hate the player.  Hate the game.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 13, 2011, 02:38:58 pm
I'm not gonna give you the extra point.  You spelled his first name wrong.  :)








I kid.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 13, 2011, 02:40:38 pm
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Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on April 13, 2011, 02:43:21 pm
I almost called him Matlock.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 13, 2011, 02:50:08 pm
I had to read it twice because I thought you did.  :)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 14, 2011, 11:00:26 am
Today's Trivia

What was the only season during the 1960s in which the Cubs won 90 or more games?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on April 14, 2011, 11:04:23 am
Ken Griffey
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on April 14, 2011, 11:13:48 am
1969
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on April 14, 2011, 11:30:11 am
Heh, when was the last time they won 90+ before that?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on April 14, 2011, 11:32:52 am
1908?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 14, 2011, 11:50:45 am
Gotta be 1945.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on April 14, 2011, 12:53:05 pm
1945 it is...er, was...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 14, 2011, 02:56:27 pm
mO wins again.  That fateful season of 1969 was the only time in the 60s that the Cubs had a 90+ win season.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 14, 2011, 02:56:35 pm
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Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 15, 2011, 10:58:36 am
Today's Trivia

1. No Cubs pitcher has ever surrendered one of these in a World Series game.
2. What uniform number was retired by the Cubs in 1982?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on April 15, 2011, 11:00:14 am
1. Walk off HR
2. 14
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 15, 2011, 11:03:30 am
These questions suck.  :)  Not what I was looking for on the first question, mO.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on April 15, 2011, 11:04:52 am
grand slam
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 15, 2011, 11:52:14 am
A base hit in a night game.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 15, 2011, 03:04:44 pm
Dave23 got number 1.  No Cubs pitcher has ever surrendered a grand slam in a WS game.  Not that we've played in many of those lately.

mO correctly answered question number 2.  Cubs retired Ernie Banks' number 14 in 1982.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 15, 2011, 03:04:57 pm
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Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 16, 2011, 06:58:15 am
 1. No Cubs pitcher has ever surrendered one of these in a World Series game.

A small country.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: fredr on April 16, 2011, 12:34:28 pm
first born
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 20, 2011, 01:05:49 pm
This story suggests the Cubs might have thrown the 1918 World Series

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=6396199
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 22, 2011, 09:42:17 am
I meant to post this yesterday and forgot

April 21 1991 - In the greatest extra-inning comeback in major league history, Pittsburgh scores six in the bottom of the 11th inning to erase a five-run Cubs lead built in the top of the inning on Andre Dawson's (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=dawsoan01) grand slam. The Pirates had rallied earlier from a 7-2 deficit to tie the game in the ninth.
 
Pitching
IP
H
R
ER
BB
SO
HR
ERA
BF
Pit
Str
Ctct
StS
StL
GB
FB
LD
Unk
GSc
IR
IS
WPA
aLI
RE24
Mike Harkey (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/harkemi01.shtml)
5.1
2
2
2
2
7
0
5.17
20
86
54
34
7
13
5
6
0
0
61
-0.033
1.16
  0.2
Paul Assenmacher (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/assenpa01.shtml), H (3)
2.2
3
4
4
1
5
1
3.72
12
45
33
16
6
11
1
5
1
0
1
0
0.059
1.51
-2.6
Dave Smith (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/smithda02.shtml), BS (2)
2
1
1
1
0
0
6.35
6
24
11
8
0
3
4
1
0
0
0
0
-0.316
4.43
-0.5
Chuck McElroy (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcelrch01.shtml)
0.2
1
0
0
1
2
0
1.69
4
15
7
4
0
3
0
1
1
0
0
0
0.021
2.72
  0.0
Heathcliff Slocumb (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/slocuhe01.shtml)
0.1
2
3
3
1
0
0
3.12
4
22
11
7
0
4
3
0
0
0
2
0
0.032
2.07
-1.4
Mike Bielecki (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bielemi01.shtml), BS (1), L (2-1)
0.1
3
3
3
2
0
0
3.29
6
25
11
9
0
2
0
4
2
0
3
3
-0.919
4.86
-3.2
Team Totals
10.1
13
13
13
8
14
1
11.32
52
217
127
78
13
36
13
17
4
0
61
6
3
-1.156
1.48
-7.5
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on April 22, 2011, 11:22:33 am
I was at a Padres game that day at what was then called Jack Murphy Stadium (The Murph), and spent more time watching the scoreboard than the game on the field.  Was elated by the Cubs 5 run top of the 11th, and when the Pirates came back to win it, just said, "That's the Cubs."

They won a similar game in the 1930s at the height of a pennant race.  Came back from a 4 run deficit in extra innings, scoring 5 in the bottom half to keep a winning streak alive.  I think Cuyler got the key hit.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 23, 2011, 12:32:18 am
April 23, 2008 -- The Chicago Cubs won their 10,000th game, joining the Giants as the only franchise to reach that mark with a 7-6 10-inning victory at Colorado.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 25, 2011, 12:36:36 am
 April 25, 1976 - Cubs center fielder Rick Monday rescued the American flag from two trespassers who tried to set it on fire in the outfield at Dodger Stadium. It happened in the fourth inning of a 5-4, 10-inning loss to Los Angeles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrV8QPQAhxo
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 25, 2011, 12:41:41 am
The video is definitely worth watching.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 25, 2011, 11:29:41 am
It would be interesting to know what happened to the two idiots who were going to burn the flag.  Not just what happened that day or what they were charged with (presumably they were charged) or what happened when their case when to court, but what has happened to them in the last 35 years.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 25, 2011, 11:34:41 am
A bit more on the story.  I had forgotten that it was a father and his 11 year old son.

http://www.chatterfromthedugout.com/patriot.htm
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Deeg on April 25, 2011, 11:52:10 am
I was watching the game that day, I remember it well.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on April 25, 2011, 12:10:05 pm
Quote
Aside from public ridicule, the older of the two protesters incurred some legal punishment. Thirty seven-year-old William Errol Thomas, an unemployed man from Eldon, Missouri, was fined $60 for trespassing and placed on probation for a year. No formal charges were placed against the boy, who was treated as a juvenile offender.


http://bruce.mlblogs.com/archives/2006/04/the_flag_burner.html (http://bruce.mlblogs.com/archives/2006/04/the_flag_burner.html)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on April 25, 2011, 02:32:36 pm
"It would be interesting to know what happened to the two idiots who were going to burn the flag.  Not just what happened that day or what they were charged with (presumably they were charged) or what happened when their case when to court, but what has happened to them in the last 35 years."

The two were Barak Obama Sr. and Barak Obama Jr.  No one knows what happened to either of them.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on April 25, 2011, 02:55:48 pm
Probably a little over the top, Dave.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 26, 2011, 08:37:32 am
April 26

1941 - The Chicago Cubs are the first team to install an organ, with Roy Nelson manning the keyboard. But the Cubs hit sour notes, losing 6-2 to the St. Louis Cardinals.

1997 - Ryne Sandberg breaks Joe Morgan's major league record for home runs by a second baseman with his 267th career blast at the position in a 7-6 Cubs' victory over the Pirates. Sandberg hit the first five home runs of his career as a third baseman before he moved over to second.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Tuffy on April 26, 2011, 09:29:07 am
There wasn't much to cheer about in 1997, but seeing Ryno pass that Gold-Glove Hall-of-Fame Two-Timer Joe Morgan in homers was one of them.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on April 26, 2011, 09:30:58 am
Two words can sum up 1997:

Mel Rojas
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on April 26, 2011, 10:18:24 am
Josh Lewin
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on April 26, 2011, 10:43:56 am
That was another lowlight of 1997.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 26, 2011, 01:09:29 pm
Josh Lewin
We didn't know it at the time, but 1997 was Harry's last year behind the mic
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 27, 2011, 10:16:33 pm
from 1998 on ESPN:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF3OZRzMYmY
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 28, 2011, 09:36:48 am
April 28, 1906 - It's the only time two player-managers steal home on the same day, though not in the same game. Cubs pilot Frank Chance steals in the ninth to give Chicago a 1-0 win over the Reds, and Fred Clarke matches him in the Pirates' 10-1 win over the St. Louis Cardinals.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on April 28, 2011, 09:41:00 am
Same tired old east coast centric ESPN s**t. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 29, 2011, 12:45:09 am
 April 29, 1983 - Lee Elia goes ballistic in a post-game press conference. He criticizes the fans saying that 85% of the world works, and the other 15% attends Cubs games.

http://www.speakeasy.org/~bucky/elia_tirade.html
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 29, 2011, 12:47:18 am
April 29, 1987 - Andre Dawson had five hits and hit for the cycle to lead the Chicago Cubs to an 8-4 victory over the San Francisco Giants.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on May 01, 2011, 04:47:52 pm
Internet Archives has preserved at least a little bit of BBF history.

http://replay.web.archive.org/20081220131258/http://wc4.worldcrossing.com/webx?14@@.ee8bb43
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 02, 2011, 09:09:15 am
May 2, 1917 - The Cubs lefthander Hippo Vaughn and righthander Fred Toney of the Reds toe the mound in Chicago for a one-of-a-kind game. At the end of nine innings, both pitchers have no-hitters. With one out in the top of the tenth and men on second and third, Jim Thorpe hits a swinging bunt near the mound. Vaughn picks it up and throws home, but catcher Art Wilson freezes the ball hits his chest protector, and Larry Kopf slides in safe for the only run. Fred Toney sets the Cubs down in order and has the fourth ten-inning no-hitter to date.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on May 02, 2011, 03:39:12 pm
http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/index?id=6460558
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on May 02, 2011, 03:53:11 pm
I wonder if they ever talk about it.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on May 02, 2011, 04:54:28 pm
In a way it's cool that Greenberg is still playing baseball in an independent league.  It really shows his love for the game.  He has one factor that sets him above most of his teammates and rivals:  he was in The Show.  His name is in the Baseball Encyclopedia.  He stepped to the plate in the major leagues. 

So don't feel sorry for him.  He lived the dream, if only for a moment.  That sets him above all of us.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on May 02, 2011, 06:28:49 pm
I wouldn't be surprised if Adam Greenberg ended up coaching or managing in the Majors one day.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 08, 2011, 09:36:42 am
 May 8, 1973 - Cubs manager Whitey Lockman is ejected during a 12-inning 3-2 win over the Padres. Coach Ernie Banks fills in for the last few innings, technically becoming the major leagues' first black manager.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 09, 2011, 01:13:54 am
(http://cache0.bigcartel.com/product_images/32671752/300.jpg)

saw someone wearing this t-shirt earlier this afternoon.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 12, 2011, 09:10:20 am
 May 12, 1970 - Ernie Banks becomes the eighth member of the 500 home run club, connecting off Pat Jarvis during a 4-3 Cubs win over the Braves. It his 1,600th career RBI.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 15, 2011, 10:21:46 am
 May 15, 1960 - Two days after being traded from the Phillies to the Cubs, Don Cardwell pitches a no-hitter. Two brilliant defensive plays — a leaping catch of Carl Sawatski's drive by right fielder George Altman in the eighth inning and Walt Moryn's game-ending sliding grab — save Cardwell's gem. Ernie Banks' home run paces the 4-0 win, the first no-hitter against the Cards since May 11, 1919.

 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on May 15, 2011, 12:28:33 pm
Moryn's catch was a shoestring grab off a high blade of grass.  He didn't slide.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on May 15, 2011, 02:16:04 pm
I was just going to say the same thing.  He caught it off the grass and continued to run toward the infield.  I saw the game on television, and have seen many replays over the years.

I do not, however, remember Aaltman's leaping catch.

I also saw, and have seen many replays of Billy William's catch of an Aaron drive that is described as being "out of the park and then blown back into play".  Not true.  If that had been what had happened, Williams would have had to make the catch facing the wall, or make an over the shoulder catch like an end going out for a pass.  In actual fact, he was facing the infield and caught the ball with his glove facing home plate.  It was just another fly ball that the wind knocked down before it could go out of the park.

However, the play he made in another no hitter was truly admirable.  On a fly ball just to the CFs right, Billy North slipped and fell on the wet grass.  Williams, who had no business even running after a ball hit there, suddenly came into the view of the camera to make the catch much closer to CF than to LF.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on May 15, 2011, 02:48:23 pm
There is even a youtube video up of the Cardwell game... but of the rather uneventful 8th inning instead of the 9th inning.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu0c880gexo
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 16, 2011, 12:55:23 pm
 May 16, 1972 - Rick Monday hit three consecutive homers to lead the Chicago Cubs to an 8-1 win at Philadelphia. Greg Luzinski's 500-foot home run hit the Liberty Bell monument at Veteran Stadium for the Phillies' only run.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 17, 2011, 01:21:51 pm
May 17

1977 -- The Chicago Cubs (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/chc/chicago-cubs) hit seven home runs in beating the San Diego Padres (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/sd/san-diego-padres) 23-6 at Wrigley Field. Larry Biittner, Jerry Morales and Bobby Murcer hit consecutive home runs in the fifth for the Cubs.


1979 -- Dave Kingman of the Cubs hit three home runs and Mike Schmidt of the Phillies hit two, and Philadelphia beat Chicago 23-22 in 10 innings at Wrigley Field. Bill Buckner had a grand slam and seven RBIs for Chicago. The game included 11 home runs and 50 hits.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on May 19, 2011, 07:22:11 am
A story that may have been posted before, but maybe not..... ;D




http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-cubs-20110518,0,4322010.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-cubs-20110518,0,4322010.story)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on May 19, 2011, 09:23:28 am
We're not buying it, if you want to know the truth. But it's the best Chicago baseball story going right now, and the Cubs are headed to Fenway Park (http://bbf.createaforum.com/topic/sports/baseball/fenway-park-PLREC000025.topic) on Friday for the first time since that 1918 Series. If things go badly, we'll know whom to blame.
 
Great, so the ESPN broadcasters will have something else to bring up when they start talking about Bartman, The Curse, etc.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on May 19, 2011, 09:42:13 am
ooops..forgot that when ESPN broadcasts Cubs games the references to "The Curse", "Bartman Ball",etc. eventually comes up...wonder how soon into the telecast those things are brought up? ::)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 19, 2011, 09:47:13 am
The 1918 story actually came out a couple months ago.  The new ESPN Sunday night crew seems more interested in action on the field and may not have anything to say.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on May 19, 2011, 09:52:41 am
I think the most interesting thing to come out of that 1918 discussion was how often there have been scandals in baseball, whether it was betting, racism, or steroids, as examples, that nothing was done until the public, either through government agencies or game attendance, demanded change.

When Landis came down hard on the Black Sox, some smirked.  Betting on games had gone on for years and there were numerous times that there were rumors that contests had been thrown.  Pete Rose, and those of us who contribute to gigantic salaries, died for their sins.

Owners only moved to integrate when it appeared that the government might take steps to force integration.

Everybody loved the longball and turned a blind eye to how guys were doing it until Congress got interested because it was filtering down to kids and baseball purists who love their stats and records got pissed.

In some way knee-jerk Bud Selig is the perfect commissioner.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on May 19, 2011, 10:20:48 am
Thinking about the "Black Sox",winning a WS wasn't a motivation for those players who were implicated by the investigation, but taking the money to lose the series was their impetus. I guess the Landis decision forced players going forward to focus on playing the game without the taint of bribe taking, cutting the ball,corking  the bat,spitballs,greasing the ball,freezing the ball,steroids,etc. notwithstanding,would restore purity to baseball....
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on May 19, 2011, 09:23:49 pm
Until Pete Rose came along.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on May 20, 2011, 07:58:18 am
Until Pete Rose came along.
This is true...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 21, 2011, 12:32:11 am
 May 21, 1991 - The Cubs fired Don Zimmer as skipper. Zimmer, nicknamed 'Pop-eye' had managed the team to the NL Eastern Division title in 1989. Media accounts indicate that strains between Zimmer and then Cubs chairman Don Grenesko lead to his firing. Zimmer was replaced by Jim Essian.

 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on May 21, 2011, 04:17:20 am
We ought to celebrate the 20th anniversary of that with some more firings.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 23, 2011, 09:07:26 am
 May 23

 
1926
Hack Wilson smacks a fifth inning home run off the Wrigley Field scoreboard, situated at ground level, to start a 14-8 rout of the Braves. Wilson is the first player to hit a ball off the scoreboard, which, in 1937, will be moved atop the newly built bleachers. Later that night, Wilson and a few others are arrested at a friend's apartment for drinking beer in violation of the Prohibition Act.

 
1995
Cubs pitcher Kevin Foster and Rockies hurler Marvin Freeman each hit home runs off each other in a 7-6 Chicago win at Coors Field. Foster and Freeman are just the tenth duo this century to hit and throw gopher balls against each other.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on May 23, 2011, 09:12:30 am
And Kevin Foster is dead.  :(
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on May 23, 2011, 09:15:21 am
Wow, I didn't know that.  When did that happen?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on May 23, 2011, 09:20:04 am
2008, JR.....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/former-cubs-pitcher-kevin_n_134454.html
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on May 23, 2011, 09:24:41 am
Thanks FITS.   That's a shame.  Sorry to hear about that.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on May 23, 2011, 09:38:04 am
Yeah, it sure is a shame.....
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on May 23, 2011, 01:47:32 pm
Owners only moved to integrate when it appeared that the government might take steps to force integration.

Branch Rickey approached Monte Irvin in 1945 about playing in the majors even before Jackson.  And in 1943 he got the approval of the Dodger's Board of Directors to sign a black player (once he found the right one) to add to the major league team.

There was no reasonable concern AT ALL that government in 1943 would require integration.  At that time the military was still integrated.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on May 23, 2011, 02:01:12 pm
You mean the military was still segregated, and you are right.  I have never seen any evidence that MLB integrated because of fear of the federal government.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on May 23, 2011, 02:08:29 pm
Yes, Dave.  Mind just couldn't get the fingers what type what I meant.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on May 23, 2011, 02:14:13 pm
You might want to get that checked, Jes.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on May 23, 2011, 11:22:01 pm
His fingers, or his mind?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on May 24, 2011, 09:12:33 am
Yes.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 25, 2011, 02:36:26 pm
 May 25

 
1982 -- Ferguson Jenkins became the seventh pitcher to strike out 3,000 batters in the Chicago Cubs' 2-1 loss at San Diego. Jenkins reached the milestone by striking out Garry Templeton in the third inning.

 
2001 -- Kerry Wood of the Chicago Cubs allowed one hit and struck out 14 in a 1-0 win over the Brewers. Wood took a no-hit bid into the seventh before giving up a leadoff single to Mark Loretta.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 26, 2011, 04:35:27 am
This Day in Cubs History - May 25th


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hMZm4_BV6dM/SDsZQN6UKiI/AAAAAAAABTk/792Pf7uNDZo/s400/jeremi.jpg)

May 25, 2008 - Former major league pitcher Jeremi Gonzalez is killed by lightning standing on a dock in western Venezuela. The 33-year-old pitcher, who was signed by the Cubs as an amateur free agent in 1991, also hurled for the Devil Rays, Red Sox, Mets and Brewers before being released by Milwaukee in 2006.

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This Date In MLB History - May 26th

(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/61/61-398Fr.jpg)

May 26, 1964 - In front of a meager crowd of 2,503 fans at Wrigley Field, the visiting Mets pummel the Cubs, 19-1. New York's 25-year old first baseman Dick Smith, batting leadoff, becomes the first player in franchise history to collect five hits in a game.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1964/B05260CHN1964.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1964/B05260CHN1964.htm)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on May 26, 2011, 07:08:09 am
Took my dad to a Cub game Gonzales started early in the season in Gonzalez' rookie year.  Thought he would end up a pretty good pitcher.

We were wrong.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on May 26, 2011, 01:56:22 pm
Like a large numbers of seemingly good pitching prospects, arm problems took away much of his talent.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Tuffy on May 26, 2011, 02:34:59 pm
I had had no idea that Jeremi Gonzales had changed the spelling of his name to Geremi in 2006.  Google the name we knew him with, and you'll get plenty of links to stories about "Geremi Gonzalez".
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 26, 2011, 02:42:37 pm
The Cubs had another pitcher who couldn't make up his mind on how to spell his name.  The guy who had a ton of blister problems is all I can remember.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 26, 2011, 02:44:19 pm
Ismael Valdez/Valdes
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on May 26, 2011, 03:33:50 pm
Ismael Valdez/Valdes

His full name was Ismael Hey Alou Come Pee on My Fingers Valdez
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 27, 2011, 06:45:35 pm
May 31, 1984  - Mario Soto is suspended for five days by N.L. president Chub Feeney for his role in a 32-minute melee that marred the Reds-Cubs game on May 27. After shoving third base umpire Steve Rippley, who had signaled that Ron Cey's long fly ball was a three-run home run (it was later ruled foul), a bat-wielding Soto then tried to attack a park vendor who had thrown a bag of ice at him. Soto will be suspended again for five more days later in the season for his June 16 fight with Claudell Washington.

The May 27 game was played at Wrigley.  The Reds won 4-3.  Dennis Eckersley pitched a complete game and took the loss.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 30, 2011, 08:41:55 am
 May 30

 
1922 -- Between the morning and afternoon games of a Memorial Day twin bill, Max Flack of the Chicago Cubs was traded to the St. Louis Cardinals for Cliff Heathcote. They played one game for each team.

 
1927 -- In the fourth inning of a game against the Pittsburgh Pirates, shortstop Jim Cooney of the Chicago Cubs caught Paul Waner's liner, stepped on second to double Lloyd Waner and then tagged Clyde Barnhart coming from first for an unassisted triple play.

 
2010 -- Albert Pujols hit three long home runs to lead the St. Louis Cardinals to a 9-1 win over the Chicago Cubs. Pujols homered in the first, fifth and ninth innings for the fourth three-homer game of his career.

Two of Albert's homers were off Ryan Dempster.  John Grabow gave up the third.  Bob Howry escaped as he only pitched two thirds of an inning.  The Cubs run was a home run by Geo Soto.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 03, 2011, 02:11:34 am
This Date In Cubs History - June 3rd:



(http://mlb.mlb.com/images/logos/80x80/atl.png)  (http://mlb.mlb.com/images/logos/80x80/chc.png)

1978 - The Braves and the Cubs tie a major league record using 14 hurlers in a single game. Each team using seven pitchers when Chicago beats Atlanta at Wrigley Field, 8-6.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1978/B06030CHN1978.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1978/B06030CHN1978.htm)


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(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/8696/8696-177Fr.jpg) (http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/117/117-369Fr.jpg)


1987 - Three grand slams are hit at Wrigley Field in the Cubs' 22-7 rout of the Astros. Chicago's Keith Moreland and Brian Dayett go deep with the bases loaded and Billy Hatcher adds one for the Houston.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1987/B06030CHN1987.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1987/B06030CHN1987.htm)


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(http://312sports.com/images/stories/sosacork.jpg)

2003 - Slugger Sammy Sosa is ejected from the game during the first inning after he shatters his bat and the broken remains exposes cork. The Cub outfielder will be suspended by major league baseball for 8 games (will be reduced to 7) his offense

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2003/B06030CHN2003.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2003/B06030CHN2003.htm)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on June 12, 2011, 12:12:06 am
 June 12, 2009 -- Chicago right fielder Milton Bradley had a bad day at Wrigley Field. Bradley lost Jason Kubel's pop-up in the sun for a single, couldn't catch Michael Cuddyer's RBI bloop double, made a baserunning blunder and, most egregiously, flipped the ball into the stands after catching Joe Mauer's one-out sac fly. With Nick Punto on third, Brendan Harris on first, Bradley caught Mauer's fly, posed for several seconds and threw the baseball into the seats. As Punto scored easily to make it 6-3, Harris was awarded third base on Bradley's error as boos rained down from every section of the ballpark.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on June 12, 2011, 12:44:24 am
Ah, the good ol' days....
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on June 12, 2011, 06:59:59 am
June 12, 2009 -- Chicago right fielder Milton Bradley had a bad day at Wrigley Field. Bradley lost Jason Kubel's pop-up in the sun for a single, couldn't catch Michael Cuddyer's RBI bloop double, made a baserunning blunder and, most egregiously, flipped the ball into the stands after catching Joe Mauer's one-out sac fly. With Nick Punto on third, Brendan Harris on first, Bradley caught Mauer's fly, posed for several seconds and threw the baseball into the seats. As Punto scored easily to make it 6-3, Harris was awarded third base on Bradley's error as boos rained down from every section of the ballpark.
blatant racism...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on June 12, 2011, 07:23:33 am
Not racism so much as a lack of fundamental knowledge in how to balance the result of lifelong discriminatory practices that failed in this case to take into consideration Bradley's severe inability to count past two.  Had the umpires the required training in establishing equal opportunity rules, Harris would only been allowed to go to second and Bradley would have been given the chance to retrieve the ball.  And the crowd would have been scolded for booing and shamed into apologizing.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on June 14, 2011, 11:39:07 am
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2007428659895&set=p.2007428659895&type=1&theater
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 15, 2011, 06:49:23 am
(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/51/51-141Fr.jpg)

Happy Birthday to Sweet Swingin' Billy Williams who turns 73 year old today.

Billy was born on June 15, 1938 in Whistler, Alabama.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/willibi01.shtml (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/willibi01.shtml)

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on June 17, 2011, 08:59:52 am
The last time the Yankees were in town

(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/images/2003/06/07/t4tf7HfI.jpg)

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20030607&content_id=360943&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20030607&content_id=360943&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc)

Maybe there's a video available somewhere.  Roger Clemens faced Kerry Wood that day.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on June 17, 2011, 09:08:59 am
Yeah that was the play that completely ruined Choi's rookie season wasn't it?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on June 17, 2011, 09:15:49 am
I was there. Wrigley Field will never be as quiet.

Eric Karros became a Cub that day.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on June 17, 2011, 11:10:19 am
We Cub fans have so many happy memories.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on June 21, 2011, 01:53:32 pm
June 21, 1971 - Indians slugger Ken Harrelson announces his retirement from baseball to join the pro golf tour.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on June 21, 2011, 02:00:22 pm
June 21, 1971 - Indians slugger Ken Harrelson announces his retirement from baseball to join the pro golf tour.

If only he was better at golf.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on June 21, 2011, 02:12:07 pm
According to Carrie Muskat,  Monday's win was the Cubs first in which players with same first name got the win, save, and homered since 1969.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHC/1969.shtml (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHC/1969.shtml)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on June 21, 2011, 02:15:15 pm
Someone had too much time on her hands.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on June 21, 2011, 09:45:27 pm
Who did it in 1969?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 23, 2011, 04:20:00 am
This Date In Cubs History - June 23rd

(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/103/103-460Fr.jpg)  (http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/93/93-150Fr.jpg)

June 23, 1984 - Chicago's Ryne Sandberg hit two late-inning home runs off St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Bruce Sutter to tie the game twice as the Cubs went on to win 12-11 in 11 innings. Sandberg led off the ninth inning with a solo home run to tie the game 9-9 then hit a two-run, two-out homer in the 10th to tie the game 11-11.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1984/B06230CHN1984.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1984/B06230CHN1984.htm)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on June 24, 2011, 01:40:09 pm
Great Phil Rogers story about Curt Schilling being kind to an elderly WWII vet at Wrigley Field
(http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2011-06/62718184.jpg)


http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct-spt-0624-rogers-dizzy-schilling--20110623,0,4770352.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct-spt-0624-rogers-dizzy-schilling--20110623,0,4770352.story)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on June 24, 2011, 01:53:26 pm
Nice story, Cactus.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on June 25, 2011, 12:24:12 am
 June 25

 
1937 -- Augie Galan of Chicago became the first National League switch-hitter to hit home runs from both sides of the plate as the Cubs beat the Brooklyn Dodgers 11-2.

 
1950 -- Chicago's Hank Sauer hit two home runs and two doubles to pace the Cubs to an 11-8 victory over the Philadelphia Phillies.

 
1998 -- Sammy Sosa broke the major league record for homers in a month, hitting his 19th of June leading off the seventh inning of the Cubs' 6-4 loss to Detroit. Sosa passed the mark set by Detroit's Rudy York in August 1937.

 
2007 -- A fan charged at Bob Howry during the Cubs' 10-9 win over Colorado, after the reliever helped blow an 8-3 lead in the ninth inning. Howry gave up back-to-back RBI singles to Garrett Atkins and Brad Hawpe and a three-run homer to Troy Tulowitzki. The fan then jumped onto the field from the roof of the Rockies' dugout and made it a few feet from the mound before security guards tackled him. Howry earned the victory when Alfonso Soriano hit a game-ending two-run single in the bottom of the inning.

 
Aramis Ramirez is 33 today.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on June 25, 2011, 11:52:15 am
Phil Rogers and great in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 02, 2011, 10:57:59 pm
This Date In MLB History - July 2nd

Forty-eight Years Ago Tonight . . .

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July 2, 1963 - In one of baseball's most memorable pitching duels, San Francisco Giants' Juan Marichal hurls 16 scoreless innings and his counterpart the Milwaukee Braves' Warren Spahn pitches 15 1/3 scoreless innings before Willie Mays ends the marathon with a walk-off homer off Spahnie in the bottom of the 16th giving San Francisco the win.

Marichal's manager, Alvin Dark, visited the mound in the 9th, 10th, 11th, 13th, and 14th innings, and was talked out of removing Marichal each time. During the 14th-inning visit, Marichal told Dark, "Do you see that man pitching for the other side? Do you know that man is 42 years old? I'm only 25. If that man is on the mound, nobody is going to take me out of here." Marichal ended up throwing 227 pitches in the complete game 1-0 win, while Spahn threw 201 in the loss, allowing nine hits and one walk. Hall of Famer Carl Hubbell, who was in attendance that night, said of Spahn, "He ought to will his body to medical science."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/02/sports/baseball/02nohit.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/02/sports/baseball/02nohit.html)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/06/28/kaplan.spahn.marichal/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/06/28/kaplan.spahn.marichal/index.html)

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1963/B07020SFN1963.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1963/B07020SFN1963.htm)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on July 03, 2011, 01:11:09 am
I think it's fair to say a game like that will never happen again.  227 and 201 pitches?  Wow. 

Hall of Famer Carl Hubbell, who was in attendance that night, said of Spahn, "He ought to will his body to medical science."


That's pretty funny.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 03, 2011, 05:57:40 am
I'd like to say I attended that game but I didn't.  However, I did watch it on a black and white tv as a kid.  I remember that in about the 7th inning we had to go somewhere, but we got back in time for me to watch the last two innings.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on July 05, 2011, 10:42:37 am
July 5, 2002 - Jim Hendry was named Cubs GM.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on July 05, 2011, 10:47:07 am
July 5, 2001 - Don Baylor was fired as Cubs manager.    The interim manager was Bruce Kimm.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on July 05, 2011, 11:10:50 am
Bruce Kimm>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mike Quade

Borat>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mike Quade

Sarah Palin>>Mike Quade
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on July 06, 2011, 03:11:05 pm
20 years ago this month...I still remember watching and laughing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKkHxkkCyA
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 06, 2011, 03:17:39 pm
Lou!

Dibble's not screwed in real tight in anyway.  LOL  And they made him an analyst.  The guy needs an analyst.

Good old West.  There ain't no good West umpires.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on July 14, 2011, 03:53:23 pm
Having 10 minutes of free time, I just calculated the odds of the Cubs not winning the World Series since 1908 based on the assumption that each team had an equal chance each season.

The chance of this happening was 1 in __.  Any guesses? 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on July 14, 2011, 03:56:08 pm
Since the Cubs have won several World Series in my imagination, I suppose it is an imaginary number.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 14, 2011, 04:02:27 pm
Five?  Do I get points in the daily trivia thingee?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on July 14, 2011, 04:07:03 pm
Having 10 minutes of free time, I just calculated the odds of the Cubs not winning the World Series since 1908 based on the assumption that each team had an equal chance each season.

The chance of this happening was 1 in __.  Any guesses? 

Negative eleventy billion.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on July 14, 2011, 05:00:36 pm
I put in all that work, and nobody wants to hazard a legitimate guess?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on July 14, 2011, 05:04:42 pm
.0000001
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on July 14, 2011, 05:07:26 pm
By my calculation, the answer is 1 in 196.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on July 14, 2011, 05:09:32 pm
So you're saying in 196 periods of 103 years, the Cubs not winning a World Series during those periods would only occur one time?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on July 14, 2011, 05:10:40 pm
On average.  Just our luck to be alive during that period!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on July 14, 2011, 05:11:35 pm
Another way to look at it is that there is a 1 in 196 chance that the Cubs' failure to win the WS has been merely bad luck.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 14, 2011, 05:45:52 pm
Mine was legitimate.  I figure 1 in 5 is reasonable.  While the league had 8 teams, the odds were 16-1.  When ten, 20-1.  Now, all things equal, 30-1.  So even though I know it should be that we should have at least won 2 or 3, 1 in 5 is a reasonable guess.

Although, it isn't equal every year, just like a coin that has come up heads 10 times in a row is still 50/50 for heads the next time.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on July 14, 2011, 05:53:38 pm
Having 10 minutes of free time, I just calculated the odds of the Cubs not winning the World Series since 1908 based on the assumption that each team had an equal chance each season.

The chance of this happening was 1 in __.  Any guesses? 
Did you factor in 1994 when there was no World Series?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 14, 2011, 05:56:49 pm
aha!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 14, 2011, 05:57:16 pm
Did you factor in the 85 years that the Cubs sucked so bad they had no chance?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on July 14, 2011, 06:58:57 pm
Did you factor in 1994 when there was no World Series?
No, but that is balanced out by the fact that I didn't count the 2011 season.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on July 14, 2011, 07:14:55 pm
That's because they might well win it this year.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on July 25, 2011, 09:53:57 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/15345999/santo-will-make-hall-one-day-but-call-will-be-too-late
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on July 26, 2011, 09:11:00 am
Great article...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on July 26, 2011, 09:39:07 am
Gregg Doyel has the right amount of cynicism and sarcasm to make him the perfect writer for that piece...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on July 26, 2011, 11:06:47 am
A significant point he made is that the Cubs already have three members of that team in the Hall of Fame, despite the fact they never won anything.  Granted, Banks at the time was near the end of his career, but Fergie, Williams, and Santo were at their peaks. 

It may be blasphemous, but I think Aramis Ramirez is better than Santo ever was.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on July 26, 2011, 12:46:24 pm
A significant point he made is that the Cubs already have three members of that team in the Hall of Fame, despite the fact they never won anything.  Granted, Banks at the time was near the end of his career, but Fergie, Williams, and Santo were at their peaks. 

It may be blasphemous, but I think Aramis Ramirez is better than Santo ever was.
You have to consider the era in which Santo played.  Relative to his peers, Santo was probably as good an offensive player as ARam.  And he was a much better defensive player.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on July 26, 2011, 02:24:45 pm
I saw Santo play throughout his career.  Santo was inconsistent.  He had his up and down years.

Aram has been a consistent masher throughout his career, even considering his slow starts in 10 and 11. 

I agree on the fielding aspect, but Aram is better than average.  He doesn't dive much any more after shoulder injuries, but has really quick reactions, a strong arm, and is good on slow hit balls as well.  He also knows when to eat the ball instead of making ill advised throws.  Take note, Starlin.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on July 26, 2011, 02:44:22 pm
I saw Santo play throughout his career.  Santo was inconsistent.  He had his up and down years.

Aram has been a consistent masher throughout his career, even considering his slow starts in 10 and 11. 

I agree on the fielding aspect, but Aram is better than average.  He doesn't dive much any more after shoulder injuries, but has really quick reactions, a strong arm, and is good on slow hit balls as well.  He also knows when to eat the ball instead of making ill advised throws.  Take note, Starlin.
In his 10 seasons as a full time MLer, ARam has had an OPS over .900 five times, an OPS less than .800 twice, and an OPS in the .800s three times.  In Santo's first 10 years as a full time MLer (1961-70), he had an OPS over .900 three times, an OPS less than .800 twice, and an OPS in the .800s five times.  During this time, ARam has averaged just over 30 HR/season and Santo average 27.  I can't agree that ARam is clearly the superior offensive player relative to his peers.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on July 26, 2011, 03:28:33 pm
It may be blasphemous, but I think Aramis Ramirez is better than Santo ever was.

It isn't blasphemous, but I don't think it is very accurate.  Santo was a very good hitter who was an excellent fielder, who hustled all the time and had good baseball instincts.  Ramirez was a slightly better hitter, who is a below average fielder who is lazy and has average instincts at best.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 26, 2011, 03:41:43 pm
When comparing players of different eras, I find that I give the nod to the old guys.  Santo played at a time when the league had 2/3 as many major league teams and baseball was still attracting the best athletes rather than sharing them with football or basketball.   I think a guy hitting .300 in 1963 was accomplishing much more than a guy hitting .300 in 2010.  Shorter mound, no choking up with two strikes, even better groundskeeping and ballparks are also little advantages today.  There are probably 250 players in the majors today who wouldn't even have had a shot in 1960.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on July 27, 2011, 02:30:59 pm
We made the list!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0702/gallery.losingstreaks/content.1.html?hpt=hp_t2
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on July 28, 2011, 08:16:22 pm
In his 10 seasons as a full time MLer, ARam has had an OPS over .900 five times, an OPS less than .800 twice, and an OPS in the .800s three times.  In Santo's first 10 years as a full time MLer (1961-70), he had an OPS over .900 three times, an OPS less than .800 twice, and an OPS in the .800s five times.  During this time, ARam has averaged just over 30 HR/season and Santo average 27.  I can't agree that ARam is clearly the superior offensive player relative to his peers.

The raw OPS number or HR figures or BA can only be put in context by comparing them against the average and best performances of the era when each player played.  To do that the easiest way is to look at OPS+.

Folks it is not even close.  It is not blasphemy to say ARam is better.  It is simply ignorant.

ARam has a career OPS+ to date of 113.  Santo had a career OPS of 125, and that included his abysmal final season at age 34, one year older than ARam, when Santo had an OPS+ of 69.  Santo had a peak OPS+ of 164.  Another of 161.  A third of 153 and another of 146.  Those are steller years, and he was in the top ten for the league each of those season.  ARam's best has been 138 (not as good as Santo's 4th best), and he has never been in the top ten in the league.  (ARam right now is only one year younger than Santo was after Santo's last year.)

Santo was also in the top 10 in slugging five times, finishing 2nd once.  ARam has been in the top 10 four times (and that counts this year, when he is currently 10th), but never better than 6th.

Santo led the league in walks four times.  ARam has never place in the top ten.

Santo led the league in OBP twice and was in the tip ten 7 times.  ARam was in the top ten only once (8th).

Santo was top 10 in games played 8 times.  ARam not once.

Santo was in the top 10 in total bases five times, twice in the top five.  ARam 3 times, one 7th and two 8ths, and that is counting this year when he is now 8th.

Santo was in the top 10 in HR 7 times, twice in the top five.  ARam was 8th one year and 9th another.

Santo was in the top 10 in RBI 8 times and 2nd twice.  ARam was in the top 10 4 times (counting this season) and was never better than 6th.

And there is no point in even trying to compare their gloves or their leadership.

Again.  It is not blasphemy to say ARam is better than Santo was.  It is simply ignorance.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on July 28, 2011, 10:14:46 pm
Good info there, Jes.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on July 29, 2011, 03:58:58 pm
Jes sure has a lot of time on his hands.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: BearHit on July 29, 2011, 04:18:58 pm
Santo might still be in the booth if the HOF committee was worth a damb
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on July 29, 2011, 05:07:21 pm
Not sure I follow that logic.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on July 29, 2011, 06:19:17 pm
When Santo was diagnosed at the age of 20, he was expecting to die by 45.  So he beat some big odds all his life.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on July 29, 2011, 06:46:47 pm
I saw Santo play throughout his career.  Santo was inconsistent.  He had his up and down years.

Aram has been a consistent masher throughout his career, even considering his slow starts in 10 and 11. 



Jes sure has a lot of time on his hands.


At least enough time to address such foolishness.

From 1963 to 1973, 11 seasons from age 23 to 33, Santo had an OPS+ of 109 or better every season, and all but three years he had an OPS+ about 125, which was his career average.  During that period, Santo had a best year to worst year range of  55 OPS+ points.  http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/santoro01.shtml

For the same age period, 2001 to 2011 for ARam, ARam has had five different years in which his OPS+ was lower than Santo's worst season during the comparable 11 year period of their careers.  And twice ARam has had an OPS+ below 100, with one particularly bad season when he had an OPS+ of 72 in 522 ABs.  During that period he had a best to worst performance range of 64 OPS+ points.  http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/santoro01.shtml

Santo was clearly the better glove.  He was a better leader and role model.  He was more durable.  He was more dependable.  He had better peak years.  He had a higher career performance average.  And he was actually MORE consistent than ARam.

Please do not get me wrong.

I like ARam.  I think he would be an excellent supporting player on a strong team, and I believe he deserved to make the All Star team this season.

But thinking he has outperformed Santo on ANY level is nonsense.



Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on July 29, 2011, 07:18:40 pm
I rest my case.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on July 29, 2011, 07:49:43 pm
It is hard to envision any statistical analysis that could show that Ramirez has had a better career than Santo.  Not only was he an excellent defender, while Ramirez is barely adequate, Santo had a much better offensive career, as well as much more consistency.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on July 29, 2011, 08:34:41 pm
I rest my case.

If your "case" is that I have too much time on my hands, that is a given.  No one, including me, would argue that one.

If your "case" is that ARam was either better offensively or more consistent offensively than Santo, you are well advise to rest that one, too, because it is a very foolish position to take.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on August 02, 2011, 08:03:52 am
List of the 13 worst midseason trades in baseball history.  Where do you think Brock for Broglio ranks?

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/list/201107/mlbs-most-lopsided-midseason-trades-ever
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on August 02, 2011, 08:33:07 am
List of the 13 worst midseason trades in baseball history.  Where do you think Brock for Broglio ranks?

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/list/201107/mlbs-most-lopsided-midseason-trades-ever (http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/list/201107/mlbs-most-lopsided-midseason-trades-ever)

I thought Sandberg to the Cubs would be on the list.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on August 02, 2011, 08:55:29 am
Speaking of Ryno


Quote from: Ryne Sandberg

‘‘[Cubs general manager] Jim Hendry called me on a Tuesday to say I did not get the job in Chicago,’’ Sandberg said last week before his IronPigs beat the Pawtucket Red Sox. ‘‘Which, later on, I was not surprised about. Because later on, he mentioned I wasn’t even the third or fourth guy in line. There was no other job offering other than, ‘We’d like you to come to spring training, hit a couple of fungoes and walk around.’ At that point, I knew it was time to move on.
There's a lot more, including how he is doing now and some comments on Darwin Barney

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/6829570-573/cubs-spurn-in-past-ryne-sandberg-still-on-road-to-managing-in-majors.html (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/6829570-573/cubs-spurn-in-past-ryne-sandberg-still-on-road-to-managing-in-majors.html)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on August 02, 2011, 09:19:11 am
Quote
Because later on, he mentioned I wasn’t even the third or fourth guy in line.

I think that might be a slight case of sour grapes, since Quade and Sandberg were the final two left standing at the end.  I don't remember hearing Hendry say Sandberg was the third or fourth choice.

Of course, making Sandberg the second finalist might have been more for PR purposes than where the Cubs actually viewed him among the small group of managerial candidates they considered. 

It sounds to me Quade was Hendry's guy all along.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on August 02, 2011, 09:21:07 am
If Sandberg was only the third or fourth choice, that doesn't sound very impressive at all, since I think the Cubs only interviewed about six guys for the position.  The only people I remember even getting interviews were Quade, Sandberg, Eric Wedge, Don Wakamatsu, Pat Listach, and Bob Brenly.
 
That's an interesting point, and one which has crossed my mind, too.  You've got the GM with the best player-relationship approach in the game, whatever his faults every player except for Prior has liked him. 

By the way, I guess Mark Prior now has some company among people who don't like Hendry all that well personally.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on August 02, 2011, 09:33:46 am
If Jim Hendry's opinion of Ryne Sandberg really was that low, he should have been a little more honest and sent him on his way to pursue other opportunities a lot sooner than the end of the 2010 season.

There has to be more to it than this.

I've had several opportunities to talk briefly with Hendry (at spring training games).  My impression then and now is that once he makes up his mind, nothing is going to change it.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on August 03, 2011, 02:54:20 pm
Quote from: Carrie Muskat

 The Cubs hit six home runs in the first four innings Tuesday against the Pirates. According to Elias Sports Bureau, it’s only the second time in Cubs history that they hit that many home runs in the first four innings of a game. The other time was May 31, 1954, against the Cardinals at Wrigley Field. The Cubs who connected that day were Ernie Banks, Hank Sauer (2), Paul Minner, Randy Jackson and Bill Serena.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on August 03, 2011, 02:58:13 pm
I think that was one of the two 23 run games they had that spring.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on August 03, 2011, 02:59:55 pm
I think that was one of the two 23 run games they had that spring.


Nope

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN195405310.shtml
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on August 03, 2011, 03:07:52 pm
Well, it would have been if they had played all 9 innings.

Randy Jackson was a very underrated offensive player.  In his years with the Cubs, he had an OPS+ of 100 or more just about every season.

Unfortunately, his defense wasn't very good.  He had the same problem as his shortstop, Roy Smalley, although manifested differently.  Smalley had very good range, but a very erratic arm, hence the old saying "Ramozotti to Smalley to the grandstand."  Jackson had fair range, but a rather weak arm.  He was very easy to bunt against, and in that day of frequent bunts for hits, it was a major problem.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on August 04, 2011, 09:16:45 am
August 4, ???? - ??? ????? became the first in Major League history to get a base hit for two different teams in two different cities in the same day. In the afternoon, his hit drove in the winning run for the New York Mets in a 7-4 victory in Chicago. After the game, he was traded to the Montreal Expos and played that night in Philadelphia. He entered the game in right field in the fourth inning and later got a single.

Who was this player?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on August 04, 2011, 09:18:07 am
August 4, 1955 -- Chicago's Ernie Banks hit three home runs at Wrigley against three Pirates pitchers to lead the Cubs to an 11-10 win.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on August 04, 2011, 10:46:05 am
Joel Youngblood
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 04, 2011, 11:50:51 am
Joel Youngblood
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on August 04, 2011, 12:02:36 pm
I don't know who it was, but it certainly wasn't Joel Youngblood.  Curt told me so.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on August 04, 2011, 01:30:21 pm
Joel Youngblood
Yes, in 1982
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on August 04, 2011, 01:31:27 pm
Curt was wrong.

Seems like a redundant statement.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on August 05, 2011, 08:54:30 am
Quote from: BleacherNation

 If that picture makes you deeply wistful, and ultimately sad, you’re not alone. That’s the “dream rotation” the Cubs put together before the 2004 season. It was Halladay/Lee/Oswalt/Hamels/Whoever before H/L/O/H/W was H/L/O/H/W. Matt Clement, now a high school basketball coach, took in the game last night with his sons, and reflected on his time with the Cubs. Seriously, I can barely stand looking at that picture; thinking of what might have been.


The **** word in the first line is w i s t f u l

(http://www.bleachernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/what-could-have-been-300x200.jpg)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on August 05, 2011, 11:50:32 am
That's why pennants aren't won on paper (you remember paper, don't you). 

That's why they play 162 games.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 05, 2011, 12:30:33 pm
Though a full 162 is seldom needed for the Cubs.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on August 05, 2011, 07:16:45 pm
That's why pennants aren't won on paper (you remember paper, don't you). 

That's why they play 162 games.

Also, a bullpen is probably a good idea.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on August 08, 2011, 09:06:05 am
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0729/chi_a_broglio1x_sq_300.jpg)

(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0729/chi_g_brock1x_200.jpg)

Ernie Broglio tells the real story behind the Lou Brock trade

When told of Broglio's assertion that the Cardinals knew they were dealing away damaged goods, Williams said, "That's how the game was played then. Any time a general manager felt he could put stuff on another organization, that's what they did.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/columns/story?id=6053505 (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/columns/story?id=6053505)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on August 08, 2011, 09:19:18 am
As bad as that trade was, Lee Smith for Schiraldi and Nipper was worse. As a result the following year Frey had to trade Palmeiro for Mitch Williams.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 08, 2011, 11:27:48 am
Palmeiro was toast as soon as Cindy Sandberg let it be known she was scr*wing him, but that did not force Frey to trade him for Wild Thing.  If Lee Smith had still been with the Cubs and Schiraldi and Nipper had never worn Cub uniforms, Palmeiro was still going to be traded, and based on his lack of power up to that point, he likely would not have brought anything more than Mitch Williams even if Williams himself was not the player coming back to the Cubs in the trade.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on August 09, 2011, 05:46:23 pm
Paul Sullivan thinks Ron Santo's statue (to be unveiled tomorrow night) shows him throwing

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/368892315.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1312930879&Signature=xOCcLWJZA8TeWeIoxf7JYPaucH8%3D)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on August 10, 2011, 06:47:59 pm
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg741/scaled.php?tn=0&server=741&filename=1s5qk.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/369678688.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1313021004&Signature=pqYS5WA%2BBfPviGb2R%2F9KWRVSpUM%3D)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on August 10, 2011, 06:51:51 pm
 :D 8) :-* :) Nice.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 10, 2011, 07:25:34 pm
From that photo it looks more like Beckert than Santo....
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on August 11, 2011, 11:38:57 am
Santo's hands must've been huge,ball looks pretty small...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Slick26 on August 11, 2011, 08:22:38 pm
Should've had him clicking his heels.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 11, 2011, 09:16:43 pm
Would have been tough to have suspended that statute in mid air.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on August 11, 2011, 09:36:21 pm
They could have filled it with helium and tied a string to it to keep it down.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on August 11, 2011, 09:37:26 pm
Would have been tough to have suspended that statute in mid air.
Ever the lawyer.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 11, 2011, 09:38:17 pm
lol
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on August 12, 2011, 12:25:10 pm
The next statue should be Gabby Hartnett.  Or 3 Finger Brown.  Or Tinker-Evers-Chance.

Somebody to represent the Cubs when they were winners.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on August 12, 2011, 12:43:33 pm
The Cubs really don't do a good job celebrating the history of the 30's and 40's.  Their attitude is that basically the only players worth remembering are the ones from when we became lovable losers.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on August 12, 2011, 01:04:34 pm
Except for Harry, all the statues also have a flag on one of the foul poles.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: jacey1 on August 12, 2011, 01:32:12 pm
my guess is the early Cub heros get their due once they build and open that Hall of Fame or whatever it will be on the triangle property at Clark & Waveland
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on August 12, 2011, 01:46:45 pm
By that time we'll be celebrating the latest Cubs world series winners.

And Castro will be retired.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on August 12, 2011, 01:56:13 pm
Hopefully with a statue of his own.

Hopefully not in Yankee Stadium.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on August 12, 2011, 01:56:54 pm
This is my 500th post.  Does that make me a hero member?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on August 12, 2011, 01:57:55 pm
Put it on the board.  Yesssssssssss!!!!

Oops, sorry.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on August 12, 2011, 04:46:53 pm
I think the next statue should be one dedicated to all the fans, like Oldfan, who has had to endure year after year of this feces and have died not seeing a winner.  It's time they got a monument, one the management has to walk past everyday until it sinks in...we've had enough.  And if rebuilding is what it takes, fine, but don't rebuild, while telling me we're in the hunt for the division.  Don't pi$$ on my boots and tell me it's rainin'. --John Wayne
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 28, 2011, 02:04:00 pm
Sometimes the differences between baseball in the past and today smacks you in the face when you are looking for something else.

I just looked at the Cub team stats from 1973.  For the entire year of 1973 the Cubs used 13 pitchers.

I don't mean they had a 13 man pitching staff the entire year, I mean that between opening day and the end of the season only 13 pitchers stood on the mound to throw a single pitch while wearing a Cub uniform, and one of those only made it into 2 games.  There are plenty of teams right now that have 13 pitchers on their active roster during much of the year.  So far this season the Cubs have used 20 different pitchers.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on September 02, 2011, 01:21:44 pm
September 2, 1972 - Milt Pappas of the Chicago Cubs retired 26 San Diego Padres batters in a row before walking pinch-hitter Larry Stahl on a 3-2 pitch. Pappas then retired Garry Jestadt to finish his 8-0 no-hitter.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on September 03, 2011, 10:09:36 am
September 3

1957 -- Warren Spahn of the Milwaukee Braves recorded his 41st career shutout with an 8-0 victory over the Chicago Cubs at Wrigley Field. Spahn's shutout set a major league record for left-handed pitchers.

1970 -- Billy Williams of the Chicago Cubs asked to be kept out of the lineup, snapping his National League record of 1,117 consecutive games played. His record was broken in 1983 by Steve Garvey.

1986 -- Billy Hatcher's homer in the top of the 18th inning gave the Houston Astros an 8-7 victory over the Chicago Cubs. The two teams played 14 innings the day before and used a major league record 53 players in the game.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on September 03, 2011, 01:56:28 pm
Quote from: Carrie Muskat
The Cubs have won 3,995 games at Wrigley Field heading into Saturday’s contest. They look to become the third franchise in Major League history to win at least 4,000 regular season games in one ballpark, joining the Red Sox (4,427 at Fenway Park) and the Yankees (4,133 at original Yankee Stadium).
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on September 04, 2011, 09:38:50 am
September 4

 
1891- Cap Anson shows up for today's game wearing a wig and a long white beard, much to the delight of the Chicago crowd. Anson wears the costume throughout the game, which his Colts win over the Beaneaters 5-3.

 
1908- The Pirates and Cubs are tied 0-0 in the last of the tenth at Pittsburgh. With two outs and the bases loaded, Pittsburgh's Chief Wilson singles to center, scoring Fred Clark (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=clarkfr01)e  with the winning run. Warren Gill, on first base, does not get to second base buts stops short, turns, and heads for the dugout, a common practice. The Cubs' Johnny Evers calls for the ball from Jimmy Slagle, touches second base, and claims the run does not count as Gill has been forced. The lone umpire, Hank O'Day, has left the field. When queried, he rules that Clarke had already scored, so the run counts. The Cubs protest the game, but are denied. This is the first time the Cubs try this tactic, but not the last.

 
1916- Longtime pitching rivals Christy Mathewson and Mordecai Brown closed out their careers, by special arrangement, in the same game. Mathewson won the game, 10-8.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on September 04, 2011, 09:42:04 am
September 3, 2011

Marmol melts down, coughs up DLee's 12th career grand slam.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on September 04, 2011, 10:41:35 am
1908- The Pirates and Cubs are tied 0-0 in the last of the tenth at Pittsburgh. With two outs and the bases loaded, Pittsburgh's Chief Wilson singles to center, scoring Fred Clark (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=clarkfr01)e  with the winning run. Warren Gill, on first base, does not get to second base buts stops short, turns, and heads for the dugout, a common practice. The Cubs' Johnny Evers calls for the ball from Jimmy Slagle, touches second base, and claims the run does not count as Gill has been forced. The lone umpire, Hank O'Day, has left the field. When queried, he rules that Clarke had already scored, so the run counts. The Cubs protest the game, but are denied. This is the first time the Cubs try this tactic, but not the last.


See, the umps have been screwing the Cubs for years....
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on September 04, 2011, 12:09:54 pm
10 - 8.  Why can't we get pitchers that can hold the score down like that?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on September 04, 2011, 01:32:17 pm

See, the umps have been screwing the Cubs for years....
It sure cost them dearly that season.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on September 04, 2011, 01:53:25 pm
On Friday, as we were driving south, the announcers were talking on the radio on Pittsburgh's record since the game in Atlanta where they got screwed over.  Moreland was particularly adamant that people have no idea how a game like that can suck your confidence and destroy morale.  It takes a lot of character to overcome it.  I think the Pirates have been  9-26 or something like that as of Friday.  They agreed that when the Cubs went to Pittsburgh shortly thereafter they looked nothing like the first place team that they had seen earlier. 

You see that in all sports, really, when the officials' calls can weaken a team's resolve.  Even in football with replay, sometimes even if the call is overturned, it can kill momentum and confidence.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on September 04, 2011, 01:55:32 pm
It can happen, but with some teams it would only make them re-double their efforts.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on September 04, 2011, 02:15:41 pm
It can happen, but with some teams it would only make them re-double their efforts.

Exactly, that's why the phrase, "It takes a lot of character to overcome it."  Some get over the hill, some can't.  The Pirates couldn't.  They were already running on fumes and had to everything go their way.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on September 05, 2011, 09:11:35 am
September 5, 1918


The Cubs switch their home games to Comiskey Park with its larger seating capacity for the World Series. Babe Ruth, having completed thirteen scoreless innings in his first World Series two years ago, adds nine more in edging Hippo Vaughn 1-0 in the opener. During the seventh-inning stretch, a military band plays "The Star Spangled Banner." From then on, it is played at every World Series game, every season opener, and whenever a band is present to play it, though it is not yet adopted as the national anthem. The custom of playing it before every game will begin during World War II, after the installation of public address systems.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on September 14, 2011, 09:48:36 am
September 14

 
1905 - Joe Tinker and Johnny Evers engage in a fistfight on the field during an exhibition game in Washington, Indiana, because Evers took a taxi to the park, leaving his teammates in the hotel lobby. The pair will not speak to each other again for thirty-three years.

 
1913 - Cubs hurler Larry Cheney hurls a 14-hit shutout against the Giants, defeating them 7-0 while setting a Major League record for most hits allowed in a whitewashing. Milt Gaston of Washington will duplicate the feat on July 10, 1928.

 
1986 - Bob Brenly of San Francisco tied a Major League record with four errors in one inning, but atoned with two homers, including the game-winner, to give the Giants a 7-6 victory over the Atlanta Braves. Brenly, normally a catcher, was playing third base.

 
2008 -- Carlos Zambrano pitched the first no-hitter for the Chicago Cubs in 36 years, striking out 10 in a 5-0 win over Houston in a game relocated to Milwaukee because of Hurricane Ike.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on September 15, 2011, 10:06:32 am
SEPTEMBER 15, 1946--During the second game between the Cubs and Dodgers at Ebbets Field, twilight was approaching in the sixth inning when Dodgers' pitcher Kirby Higbe, leading 2-0, was attacked by a swarm of gnats. Throwing up his hands, Higbe shouted to the umpires that he couldn't pitch and the field was cleared.

Watching the fans wave their scorecards to fend off the bugs, the umpires ruled that the scorecard waving was a hazard to the players because they could not easily see the ball. As a result the Dodgers were awarded a 2-0 "bug-shortened" win.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on September 16, 2011, 08:57:18 am
Quote from: Fred Mitchell
Hall of Fame Reds broadcaster Marty Brennaman never has lacked for an opinion on controversial topics.
 
 
 Asked who he believes was the better second baseman between Hall of Famers Joe Morgan and Ryne Sandberg, Brennaman didn't hesitate.
 
 
 "I give the nod to Joe Morgan, with the understanding that there were things Sandberg could do that Joe couldn't do, and that's obviously hit for more power," Brennaman said Thursday.
 
 
 "I never saw Sandberg leave his feet to field a ground ball. And that always stuck in my craw. … Morgan, for the two years he won the MVP award, was the best player I've seen since I've been around. He could beat you everywhere there was to beat you. And while Sandberg had more power, Sandberg couldn't steal bases like Joe did."
 
Career fielding pct
 Sandberg - .989
 Morgan - .981
 

 
 Gold Gloves
 Sandberg – 9
 Morgan – 5
 

 
 Where's Scoop when you need her?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on September 16, 2011, 09:39:31 am
Much as I liked Sandberg as a player, and respect him as a person, and as much as I view Morgan as a rather offensive blowhard, it is hard to see how anyone could objectively pick Sandberg over Morgan as the better secondbaseman or the player adding more value to a team.

Whether you are looking at peak years or career longevity, Morgan does not have an edge, but is better by a considerable margin.

Sandberg had a career OPS+ of 114.  Morgan's was 132.  Absorb that for a moment.  Santo's career OPS+ was 125.

OPS is the best single figure measure of a player's value as a hitter, and it norms the hitting performance against the entire league during the seasons the player was on the field, instantly adjusting for live-ball or dead-ball periods.  And Ryno was not ever close.  In his best years Sandberg finished with an OPS+ of 146 and 140 (twice).   Morgan did better than Sandberg's best year five consecutive years, and put up an OPS+ of 145 in another year.  Morgan's best year was a 186, followed by a 169, and then a 159.  Sandberg simply did not approach those seasons.

Then there were the steals.  Ryno was very good on the bases... but not great.  Sandberg was  344   /107 in steals.  Very good, but 1985 was the only season when Sandberg stole often enough (65 attempts) that he was regularly going to be stealing when the opposition simply knew he was going to be stealing.  Morgan was 689/162 in steals, and five times had more than 65 attempts, going 67/10 in 1975, meaning that not only was he going when it was needed in a game and the opposition was focusing on him because they knew he was likely to steal.... but that they were still unable to stop him.  Sandberg had the kind of speed and ability on the bases to be a real asset in getting a free base.  Morgan had the kind of speed and ability that changed the game for the team in the field.

And while Sandberg had a better fielding percentage, both had the same range factor, and their DP rate indicates that Morgan was at least as good as Sandberg at turning the DP.  Morgan was involved in a 59.55 DP per 100 games at 2B, and Sandberg was involved in 58.04.  (But Morgan's time in astroturf parks may well have helped him a good deal there, and I would not give much weight to Morgan having a marginally better number.)


http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sandbry01.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/morgajo02.shtml
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on September 16, 2011, 11:12:07 am
I find it hard to disagree with any of Brennaman's comments, and I agree with him re: Ryno diving for ground balls.

And Ryno was my favorite player...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on September 16, 2011, 11:24:10 am
I agree, too, although in a slight nod to Ryno, I felt he positioned himself better than most 2B's so he didn't have to dive for things out of reach. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on September 16, 2011, 11:42:39 am
Sandberg had a 50+ steal year, a 40 homer year, an MVP year, and a shelf full of all-star picks and gold gloves.  For a few months, he was the highest paid player in baseball. I saw both play, and my pick is Sandberg.

Brenneman's opinions are clouded by his hatred of the Cubs.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on September 16, 2011, 11:47:28 am
Joe Morgan was the best overall second baseman I have seen in my lifetime.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on September 16, 2011, 12:28:16 pm
Clark, how do you dismiss the OPS+ difference?  The raw number of HR is rather insignificant.  OPS takes all of the hitting numbers and gives you a meaningful figure to compare across leagues and different eras.... and you ignore that number.  You also mention a 50+ steal season for Sandberg, and ignore the fact that Morgan did that 5 straight years, with another year of 49 on the end of that stretch.... and that Morgan had TWO MVP seasons, just as many All-Star selections and 5 GG of his own.

Brenneman's opinions may well be clouded by his hatred of the Cubs.... but you can't say that about the rest of us commenting here.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on September 16, 2011, 01:02:52 pm
I don't know of any stat besides fielding % that reflects throwing accuracy.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: jacey1 on September 16, 2011, 01:30:41 pm
Jes- what is it about Sandberg that makes you respect him as a person?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on September 16, 2011, 02:34:07 pm
Probably because he's not Joe Morgan.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JeffH on September 16, 2011, 06:18:05 pm
Joe Morgan is certainly one of the fifty greatest position players in MLB history.  Sandberg was great and a deserving inductee to the HOF, but he's not close to Morgan.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on September 17, 2011, 02:33:48 pm
While looking for something else entirely I just stumbled on a post on another board at http://www.northsidebaseball.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=27096&start=50  The poster is identified as JeffH, who I would guess is the same JeffH who posts here.  What is most interesting about it is the prediction of the "worst case scenario" for the Cubs at that time, and the posting date is Dec 4, 2005.

The Cubs have re-signed infielder Jose Macias to a two-year, $4 million contract....

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The Chicago Cubs have acquired centerfielder Juan Pierre from the Florida Marlins in exchange for LHPs Rich Hill, Sean Marshall, Renyel Pinto, and a player to be named later.

The player to be named later is believed to be LHP Mark Pawelek....

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The Chicago Cubs have acquired shortstop Cesar Izturis from the Los Angeles Dodgers for right handed pitcher Kerry Wood.

"Obviously, we like Kerry a lot and are very grateful for all he's meant to this franchise, but we felt like we couldn't pass up the opportunity to add a guy like Izturis. He's a quality, quality guy," said Cubs GM Jim Hendry....

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The Chicago Cubs have signed free agent outfielders Jacque Jones and Preston Wilson to a pair of three-year contracts.

Jones will receive a guaranteed $24 million over the three seasons, with incentives that could bring the total value of the deal to $30 million.

Wilson will receive a guaranteed $20 million over the three seasons, with incentives that could bring the total value of the deal to $25 million.


While some of those names would obviously already have been rumored for such moves, the Pierre trade was not made until two days later, for for Sergio Mitre, Ricky Nolasco and Renyel Pinto.

Two weeks after the JeffH post, it was reported that, "The Cubs announced Tuesday they have signed free agent Jacque Jones to a three-year, $16 million deal."  http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051220&content_id=1285214&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc  (Amusingly Hendry at that link is quoted as describing Jones as having "an outstanding throwing arm.")

And about 7 months after the JeffH post, the Cubs traded Maddux for Izturis.

The Macias re-signing obviously did not happen -- he was released by the Cubs only two days earlier -- but in one form or another, the others did.  Granted, the Preston Wilson half of the Wilson/Jones signing announcement did not happen, but Wilson ended up with the Cardinals and helped them win the WS.

Oh, well.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on September 20, 2011, 10:10:42 am
September 20, 1953 - Ernie Banks of the Cubs hits his first Major League home run against Gerry Staley, but the Cards win 11-6.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on September 24, 2011, 10:07:09 am
September 24, 1984 - Rick Sutcliffe pitches a two-hitter in a 4-1 win over Pittsburgh to clinch the National League East title for the Cubs, who will be making their first postseason appearance since 1945. The win is Sutcliffe's 14th in a row.

 
The lineup that day:

 
8 Dernier
4 Sandberg
7 Matthews
9 Moreland
5 Cey
2 Davis
3 Durham
6 Bowa
1 Sutcliffe
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on September 24, 2011, 01:05:55 pm
No over the top offensive performances in that lineup, but pretty damb strong 1-7, though Bowa was a tru offensive black hole (OPS+ of 49, and an OBP of .274).
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on September 27, 2011, 01:26:29 pm
The possible trade of Ozzie Guillen caused Carrie Muskat to write a piece on when Lou Piniella was traded and another Cubs managerial trade

http://muskat.mlblogs.com/2011/09/27/927-lou-last-manager-to-be-traded/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on September 29, 2011, 08:22:48 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/A-few-thoughts-on-the-Steve-Bartman-documentary;_ylt=Ak7uxGyr0CMecOZRWzw0jK10Trt_?urn=mlb-wp21229

A few thoughts on the Steve Bartman documentary
By 'Duk

Was it a perverted sense of duty? A masochistic desire to relive a nightmare? I can't say for certain.
But on Tuesday night, I found myself watching "Catching Hell," ESPN's attempt to make up for the boring baseball movies they served during the otherwise-excellent "30 for 30" doc series.
And I have to admit it was weird watching a documentary of an event I actually attended. It created questions I've never had to confront while watching a movie before. Was it my first-hand experience of covering those final two games at Wrigley Field that made me think director Alex Gibney's recreation of Game 6 in the 2003 NLCS was a perfect portrayal of what it was like to be there that night? Would I still be giving him a good mark if I hadn't been there to actually feel Wrigley Field's mood deflate or hear the anger in the threats shouted at Steve Bartman as I tried to push closer through the crowd to report?
Simply put, was someone who watched the game at home on television having the same sensory buttons pushed by Gibney's film? I could now kind of relate to all the baseball people who found it weird to watch "Moneyball" after holding such a personal stake.
But if you never entered Wrigley that night, but watched Gibney's depiction and could still feel the raw, cool air of that October night, know that it wasn't too far off from being there. Here's what I wrote on deadline for the next day editions of the Kansas City Star:
"(The play) sent Wrigley Field into a tizzy, with people in the crowd starting a profane chant directed toward the unidentified man. The man was hit by a flying beer and was later taken to a secure location," according to Wrigley Field security.
"Go find out who that guy is," screamed one passerby at the media sitting in the upper deck after the game. "Then put his name, address and phone number in all your papers."
Before Game 7, I interviewed a fan holding a sign that said "screw the goat, bring us the jackass!", repeated the infamous "no pardon" quote from then-governor Rod Blagojevich and excerpted part of Bartman's apology to Cubs fans. Through several well-constructed sequences, Gibney and his crew made me feel like I had just filed my story and was packing up for the weird train ride home.
A few more thoughts on "Catching Hell":
• So was it a good movie, worthy of your time and DVR space. TV critic Alan Sepinwall says it is, ranking the movie alongside "The Two Escobars" and "The Band That Wouldn't Die." That surprised me, because I side a little more with Will Leitch. As I state aboved, there's a good documentary here, but ESPN's request that Gibney expand it to two hours fills it up with annoying fluff. There's way too much time devoted to Bill Buckner and the 1986 Red Sox at the beginning and a segment with a minister talking about the nature of scapegoating will have you reaching for the fast-forward button near the end. The movie is still worth watching, especially for some of the effects they used to break down the play. Just don't be afraid to use your remote for a healthy edit.
• It probably goes without saying, but Bartman himself does not appear in the movie. Had he actually agreed to an interview, ESPN sure would have let us know. His absence doesn't handicap Gibney as much as I thought it would — several other sources, including a security guard who provided safe haven at her nearby apartment, give us a new view on the night — but there's no way anyone should tackle this topic again without Bartman's cooperation. Between that mock trial, two Wayne Drehs articles and this documentary, ESPN has officially picked the topic clean. Enough.
• Am I right to understand that Bartman's two friends left the security office and ditched him that night? Worst people ever, if so.
• Actually, check that. The worst people ever are the ones who still come up to Moises Alou and ask him to autograph pictures of that fateful moment.
• The news clip they showed of Steve Bartman's youth baseball team showing up outside his house to support him the next day was great and touching. I had never seen that before.
• There's a part of the movie where Gibney syncs WGN's radio broadcast — which had been delayed by seven seconds — with the actual play so we can hear what Bartman was presumably hearing in his trademark headphones as the foul ball flies toward him. Gibney suggests the delay was responsible for Bartman's ignorance, but I don't buy that for a second. Maybe if Bartman had also been blind.
• Also missing the mark: Gibney's insistence on suggesting that Chicago is still burdened by the way that fans acted that night, like we're a Southern town still healing from segregation or the family of a serial killer. I'd venture to guess that the only times that 99 percent of Chicagoans really reflect back on that night is when ESPN mines it for more programming.
• I'm not an expert in the way that television schedules are produced or determined, but couldn't they have found a day when nothing important was going on in baseball? Say, the entire month of August? Thank God that the microwave is the only device in my house that MLB.tv doesn't stream to or I would've missed a lot of Tuesday's great wild-card action.
• Not to get all Drew Magary on you, but, please people, STOP ASKING IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS WHAT ALEX GONZALEZ DID. No one forgets that he booted what could have been a double-play ball BECAUSE EVERYONE IS ALWAYS ASKING WHY NO ONE REMEMBERS IT. EVEN THOUGH WE DO. Honestly, people who say no one remembers Alex Gonzalez are worse than the people who say "I'm Irish and I don't get upset about Notre Dame, do I?" when you're talking about Native American mascots. PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE. THEY WILL BRING IT UP AGAIN. YOU HAVE NOT STUMBLED INTO SOME TERRITORY WHERE NO ONE HAS DARED VENTURE OR OPENED ANOTHER PORTAL TO HUMAN UNDERSTANDING.
• This film did nothing to dispel my belief that Alou would've caught that ball.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on September 29, 2011, 02:31:09 pm
I agree with all of that.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on October 04, 2011, 01:23:12 pm
October 4, 1906 - The Chicago Cubs won their 116th game of 152 played for a winning percentage (.763) that has not been matched.

 
October 4, 1989 - Will Clark has six RBIs on four hits, including two home runs (one of which is the first NLCS grand slam since 1977) to lead the Giants to an 11-3 win over the Cubs in Game One.

 
October 4, 1994 - Larry Himes, the Cubs worst GM since the Tribune company purchased the team in 1982, was fired from his job as general manager of the Chicago Cubs and reassigned as a scout. During Himes tenure, the Cubs lost Greg Maddux, Andre Dawson, Rick Sutcliffe, and numberous other players. Himes made few good moves, but did sign Randy Myers and traded for Sammy Sosa. Himes was despised by many veteran Cubs, which lead to them leaving, or retiring.

 
October 4, 1999 - Jim Riggleman gets axed as Cubs manager following a 95 loss season. His 5 year term marked the longest tenure by a Cubs manager since Leo Durocher lasted 6+ years from 1966-1972. During his time, Riggleman lead the team to a wild-card birth in 1998.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on October 04, 2011, 02:12:00 pm
Jim Frey was a worse GM than Himes.  He dismantled Dallas Green's farm system organization, and we haven't recovered from that yet. 

As mentioned, Himes brought in Sosa and Meyers.  Frey gave away Lee Smith and Palmeiro.

Himes also drove away Sandberg, BTW.  He came out of his first retirement after Himes was fired.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on October 04, 2011, 03:36:06 pm
Jim Frey was a worse GM than Himes.  He dismantled Dallas Green's farm system organization, and we haven't recovered from that yet. 

As mentioned, Himes brought in Sosa and Meyers.  Frey gave away Lee Smith and Palmeiro.

And Jaime Moyer.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on October 04, 2011, 04:21:47 pm
Moyer was not particularly well appreciated at that time, by much of anyone.

Two years after the Cubs included him in the trade to Texas, the Rangers released him.  TRULY giving him away.  The Cardinals then signed him.... and after one season in St. Louis, the Cards released him after the 1991 season.  The Cubs then signed him again before spring training in 1992.... and the Cubs then became the 3 team in a year and a half to release Moyer.  The Tigers then signed him and had him in the minors the entire 1992 season.... when Moyer was 29.  The Cubs were not exactly the only team to have underestimated Moyer's value.... though they were the only team who so clearly did so twice.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on October 05, 2011, 04:40:25 pm
Johnny Schmitz died last weekend at age 90.  He was the Cubs' premiere lefty of the late 1940s, winning 18 games for the last place Cubs of 1948.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on October 10, 2011, 12:29:16 am
October 10, 1994 - The Cubs hire Ed Lynch as General Manager. He replaces Larry Himes, and will keep the job until July 19, 2000.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on October 10, 2011, 12:46:34 am
October 10, 1994 - The Cubs hire Ed Lynch as General Manager. He replaces Larry Himes, and will keep the job until July 19, 2000.
or, in other terms, six years too long.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on October 10, 2011, 01:20:33 am
Hey, Ed Lynch made one good trade at least -- Brandt Brown for Jon Lieber.

Other than that, not a whole lot.

I guess Miguel Batista for Henry Rodriguez was pretty good, too.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on October 10, 2011, 03:37:04 am
You had to understand the dynamics of baseball.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on October 10, 2011, 07:22:26 am
October 10, 1994 - The Cubs hire Ed Lynch as General Manager. He replaces Larry Himes, and will keep the job until July 19, 2000.

The Lynch experience might give pause to some of those who say they would like to see the Cubs hire as GM a mid-level executive who is "smart."

Lynch retired from MLB as a player after the 1987 season.  He got a WS ring from being with the Mets very briefly during their 1986 WS winning season.  He went to law school after he retired, got his law degree in 1981, was with the Padres as a mid-level exec for a couple of years, and presumably was well-regarded as a "smart" guy.  The Cubs then hired him, giving him his first GM job, presumably because he was a "smart" guy.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on October 10, 2011, 08:50:14 am
Doug Glanville does it again in an essay on what it is like to get knocked out of the playoffs.  Most of it is about 2003 but he doesn't mention the guy wearing the glasses.


http://espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2011/story/_/id/7077713/2011-mlb-playoffs-teams-experience-bitter-end
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on October 10, 2011, 09:19:28 am
Very good writer.  Hope he pens a few more books.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: jacey1 on October 10, 2011, 01:32:17 pm
LYNCh was way smarter than we give him credit for.....heres a guy who got his law degree (after he retired from baseball) yet was with the WS champs in 1986
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on October 10, 2011, 01:36:39 pm
I said hello to Ed Lynch a few times when I saw him here scouting AAA games for the Cubs after his GM run ended.   He seemed like a nice enough guy to me.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on October 10, 2011, 02:10:25 pm
Did he invite you to sip suds with the clubby with him?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: shasson on October 12, 2011, 11:09:50 am
Epic Joe Posnanski piece about Cubs' history. He's a great sportswriter.

The real take away? Jeff H. is actor Joe Mantegna:

http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2011/10/cubs.html#more
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on October 12, 2011, 07:38:50 pm
That Posnanski piece does a better job than any I have ever seen at explaining why the Cubs were terrible from 1946 thru the mid 1960's.

Phil Wrigley was an interesting and complicated man. He innovated baseball in quite a few ways (he was the man behind the All-American Girls Professional Baseball League and the ivy on the Wrigley Field walls). He was odd in many few ways; it was often said that he had no friends. Everyone agreed, though: Wrigley was deeply principled. He honestly did not want lights at Wrigley Field because he thought it would hurt the neighborhood. He believed in keeping Wrigley Field beautiful because he wanted baseball to feel like a picnic for families.

One of his deepest and most ingrained principles was trying to preserve the minor leagues -- so much so, he thought it insulting they even were called "MINOR leagues." Wrigley is probably the only owner in baseball history who actually WANTED there to be another major league -- no matter how much it might hurt his business -- because he thought it would provide more opportunity for fans and players. "Wrigley did not believe in farm systems," Bill Veeck writes in "Veeck As In Wreck." "It was his belief -- and he was right -- that baseball could only remain healthy if the minor league clubs were free to develop their own players and sell them to the highest bidder."

He may have been right in a moral sense, but his stance wasn't much good for building baseball teams. While other teams developed players by draining the minor leagues of talent and power, Wrigley's Cubs kept trying to do business the old-fashioned way. The only good young player the Cubs acquired from the end of the war until the late 1950s was Hall of Famer Ernie Banks, and that was old-business -- the Cubs bought Banks from the Kansas City Monarchs in the dying days of the Negro Leagues. They signed a few hard-throwing pitchers who did not pan out, but other than that they hardly even tried. The Cubs were terrible year after year.

All this happened in the immediate years after the Billy Goat's Curse -- and so the curse took on a life of its own. But there was no curse necessary in those early years of the Cubs streak. Without any real way to acquire or develop young talent, the Cubs for the first decade and a half after the war, didn't have stand chance.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JeffH on October 12, 2011, 07:49:50 pm
And so it continues to this very day.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: jacey1 on October 13, 2011, 01:50:57 pm
I thought veeck was responsible for the ivy on the walls, not wrigley
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on October 13, 2011, 02:26:25 pm
Even if it was Veeck's idea, as owner Wrigley presumably had to approve it, or at least allow it without having it removed, even if he approved nothing beforehand.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on October 21, 2011, 01:47:10 pm
October 21, 1994 - The Cubs hired Jim Riggleman as manager, to replace Tom Trebelhorn. 'Riggs' would keep his job through the 1999 season, a 5 year stint. He also managed a 90 win team in 1998 that saw the Cubs win the wild card.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on October 21, 2011, 01:51:47 pm
October 21, 1994 - The Cubs hired Jim Riggleman as manager, to replace Tom Trebelhorn. 'Riggs' would keep his job through the 1999 season, a 5 year stint. He also managed a 90 win team in 1998 that saw the Cubs win the wild card.

Asterisk.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on October 21, 2011, 01:54:58 pm
Asterisk.
Some of the credit should go to Neifi Perez?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on October 21, 2011, 02:01:01 pm
That, too.

But it took 163 games to win 90.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on October 21, 2011, 08:11:11 pm
More significantly, it took a load of steroids.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on October 26, 2011, 06:44:28 pm
Former Cub Roy Smalley dies at 85

http://www.gvnews.com/news/cubs-standout-roy-smalley-jr-dies-at/article_1a0869fa-fe9d-11e0-8ce0-001cc4c03286.html
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JeffH on October 26, 2011, 07:09:48 pm
The best defensive shortstop DaveP ever saw.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on October 26, 2011, 08:49:26 pm
Heh!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on October 26, 2011, 08:59:02 pm
The Cardinal of that time had Stan the Man.

The Cubs had Roy the Boy.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on October 26, 2011, 09:36:46 pm
If, in my younger years, I had had enough sense to sit directly in front of the first base dugout, I could have caught as many balls as Dee Fondy.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on October 27, 2011, 12:34:52 am
October 27, 2009 -- The $845 million sale of the Chicago Cubs, Wrigley Field, and other assets from the Tribune Co. to the Ricketts family was completed, more than 2½ years after the franchise was put on the market.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on October 27, 2011, 10:46:59 am
I remember the DP combination of Miksis to Smalley to grandstand.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on October 27, 2011, 10:51:24 am
And I could have been grandstand.  I passed up an opportunity for fame.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on October 27, 2011, 12:18:07 pm
I passed up an opportunity for fame.

Wouldn't that have been grandstanding?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on October 27, 2011, 02:07:29 pm
Don't step on Play2's lines.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on November 11, 2011, 12:12:16 pm
For a laugh -- http://bleacherreport.com/articles/932134-30-greatest-third-basemen-in-major-league-baseball-history/page/9

This site ranks the 30 greatest thirdbasemen of all-time.... and ranks Santo 21st.

Those ahead of him include Kevin Youkilis, Terry Pendleton and Evan Longoria, Ken Boyer, Gary Gaetti, and Homerun Baker.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on November 11, 2011, 12:18:48 pm
Terry Pendleton?  Seriously?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Pistol on December 05, 2011, 10:12:33 am
Welcome to the Hall, Ron Santo.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: brjones on December 05, 2011, 10:19:11 am
I almost wish Santo hadn't made it in this year.  Then at least we could dismiss the Veteran's Committee as being stupid. 

But since he made it in easily, we can conclude one of two things: they're either so lazy and take the vote so non-seriously that some of them didn't even really consider his case until after he died, or a certain portion of the committee is vindictive for some reason and didn't want Santo to get to enjoy it.

I'm glad he's in now, though.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: BearHit on December 05, 2011, 10:20:50 am
I'll go with vindictive
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Deeg on December 05, 2011, 12:34:05 pm
Both probably true, but the real reason is because they changed the structure and switched to a "Golden Age" committee this year.  It has only 16 members, likely a less vindictive group, and much easier to lobby.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on December 05, 2011, 12:40:49 pm
The good thing about the new veteran's committee is that it was selective enough to only elect the only one who was unquestionably deserving and wasn't able to sneak in someone who wasn't all that deserving, like Jim Kaat or Tommy John.  There was a lot of concern that whatever veteran's committee mix that would elect Santo might also vote in guys who aren't that deserving.

Maybe they finally found the right mix with the veteran's committee to elect players who are truly deserving while leaving out the ones who are very marginal or pals of former players.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on December 05, 2011, 03:24:05 pm
Tommy John's surgeon deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. 

I had to look him up.  It's Frank Jobe.  The procedure should be named after him.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on December 05, 2011, 04:23:29 pm
Jobe made a more significant contribution to the game than many of the folks who are in the HOF.  Way more deserving than most of the executives who are there.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on December 09, 2011, 04:30:43 pm
For a different look at Santo being elected to the HOF.

http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2011/12/08/was-the-ron-santo-induction-really-deserved/

... and it is NOT an opinion I share.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on December 11, 2011, 12:10:43 pm
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on December 19, 2011, 07:52:43 am
Bob Costas interviews Ryne Sandberg, Fergie Jenkins, and Andre Dawson on MLB Network’s Studio 42 this evening at 8 pm CT. The trio discuss their careers, time with the Cubs, and the legacy of the team.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on December 30, 2011, 06:37:59 pm
(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/create-a-forum/Other/yazsanto-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on December 30, 2011, 06:59:53 pm
(http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotImages/71/112803c_lg.jpeg)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on December 31, 2011, 07:44:12 am
Great pics...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on January 27, 2012, 08:57:05 am
January 27, 1982 - Philadelphia sends veteran shortstop Larry Bowa and minor league infielder Ryne Sandberg to the Cubs in exchange for shortstop Ivan DeJesus. Bowa and DeJesus will have a few more productive seasons in the major leagues, but the 22-year-old Sandberg will become one of the best-hitting second baseman of all time. In 1984, he will lead the Cubs to their first appearance in the postseason since 1945.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on January 27, 2012, 09:51:53 am
30 years ago...man...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on January 27, 2012, 10:01:57 am
Is that pretty much the greatest trade in Cub history?

I guess either that or Sammy for George Bell, one of the two.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on January 27, 2012, 11:21:32 am
The Mathews and Dernier trade pretty much netted us a great season, along with the Red Baron trade.  Those were huge, too.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on January 27, 2012, 11:21:59 am
The Jenkins trade was as good, or better.  I forgot all those involved, but the Cubs got Jenkins and Adolpho Phillips for Larry Jackson and Bob Buhl.  there was one other involved, but I don't remember who.

And if you want to go back further, the Kiki Cuyler trade was quite impressive also.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on January 27, 2012, 11:31:47 am
Mordecai Brown for Jack Taylor wasn't bad.  Neither was getting Hack Wilson in the equivalent of the Rule 5 draft.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on January 27, 2012, 11:50:28 am
Hill, Bruback, and Jose Kernandez for Lofton and Ramirez
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: dallen7908 on January 30, 2012, 08:29:51 pm

While listening to NPR Marketplace this evening there was a short essay by Leo Webb, who became a sharp shooter in the military (17 confirmed kills) after pitching and blowing out his arm in AA for the Cubs.  The gist of the essay is that being a good sharp shooter doesn't help one get a job after leaving the military.  Anyhow, I have been following the minors for a while and have not heard of him.  Has anyone?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on January 30, 2012, 09:11:00 pm
While listening to NPR Marketplace this evening there was a short essay by Leo Webb, who became a sharp shooter in the military (17 confirmed kills) after pitching and blowing out his arm in AA for the Cubs.  The gist of the essay is that being a good sharp shooter doesn't help one get a job after leaving the military.  Anyhow, I have been following the minors for a while and have not heard of him.  Has anyone?

baseball-reference.com does a pretty good job presenting even minor league records, and they have no one fitting that description.  So it appears you are not the only one not to have heard of the guy.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on January 30, 2012, 09:43:55 pm
How long ago was this guy in the Cub system?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: dallen7908 on January 31, 2012, 07:51:07 am

This is all I know ...

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/commentary/returning-veteran-has-few-marketable-skills
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on January 31, 2012, 09:38:07 am
This is all I know ...

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/commentary/returning-veteran-has-few-marketable-skills

I suspect the folks at NPR got things seriously wrong, and may have been played.  The report indicates that this is a guy who has very recently returned from service, which would mean that his minor league stats would almost certainly be available at baseball-reference.com, which does not list the guy.  In fact it doesn't list anyone with the last name of Webb who would look even close.  http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl/player_search.cgi?search=Webb

The story also mentions the guy getting shot just outside a Rite-Aid after he returned from the service in Iraq.... but if you google "Rite-Aid Leo Webb veteran" there are no hits that would match a news report about that.  And it is no different if you change the search to "Rite-Aid Leonard Webb veteran."  Replace the word "veteran" in the search to "shooting" and you still get nothing.

Forgive my skeptical nature, but the entire report sounds bogus to me.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Keysbear on January 31, 2012, 11:11:20 am
NPR got things wrong? Say it ain't so....
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: jacey1 on January 31, 2012, 01:36:50 pm
call them out on it
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on January 31, 2012, 02:09:14 pm
But you have to agree with the major tenet of the article.  Being a sharpshooter in the military probably doesn't prepare you for a lot of civilian jobs.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on January 31, 2012, 02:27:06 pm
call them out on it

I have already posted my doubts at their website where the essay is posted.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on February 01, 2012, 02:21:46 pm
Hit man for the Mafia??
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on February 01, 2012, 05:44:19 pm
I suspect the folks at NPR got things seriously wrong, and may have been played.  The report indicates that this is a guy who has very recently returned from service, which would mean that his minor league stats would almost certainly be available at baseball-reference.com, which does not list the guy.  In fact it doesn't list anyone with the last name of Webb who would look even close.  http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl/player_search.cgi?search=Webb

The story also mentions the guy getting shot just outside a Rite-Aid after he returned from the service in Iraq.... but if you google "Rite-Aid Leo Webb veteran" there are no hits that would match a news report about that.  And it is no different if you change the search to "Rite-Aid Leonard Webb veteran."  Replace the word "veteran" in the search to "shooting" and you still get nothing.

Forgive my skeptical nature, but the entire report sounds bogus to me.



Wow, after my post on the NPR site, the following popped up there in the last few minutes:

Returning veteran has few marketable skills
by Leo Webb
Marketplace for Monday, January 30, 2012
TRANSCRIPT
Editor’s Note: A commentary by Leo Webb, ”Returning veteran has few marketable skills,” prompted questions from listeners about Webb’s account of his service as an Army sniper in Iraq. A subsequent investigation found that the Army has no record of Webb. Webb also said he pitched for a Chicago Cubs minor-league team. Inquiries to the Cubs and to Minor League Baseball found no record of Webb. Marketplace has an obligation to provide accurate information. That was not met in this commentary. It has been retracted and the text and audio have been removed from the web site.   


That was literally posted in the last few minutes -- I had checked it about 15 minutes ago, and it remained as it had been, and then went back to check something else and....
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on February 01, 2012, 06:49:38 pm
Even if every word of it had been true, so what. 

Asia is a continent.

Australia is an island.

The sky is blue.

Military sharpshooters have limited civilian job skills.

An article about any of the above facts would have been equally meaningless.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on February 01, 2012, 07:10:00 pm
dave, when it is NOT true, and there was no effort made at even the most rudimentary fact-checking (which would have shown it was not true), you don;t get to the "so what."

The issue here is not really one of whether the situation does or does not exist.  The issue is whether fantasy and fiction were presented as fact, and whether NPR made any effort to confirm its accuracy or instead went with it without any effort to check because it was consistent with a political agenda.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on February 01, 2012, 07:20:49 pm
My point was that even if every word was true, it was a meaningless report.  NPR was stupid to report it, and even more stupid to fail to fact check it.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: jacey1 on February 02, 2012, 01:25:54 pm
i wonder what agenda jes had when he screwed his clients and got disbarred?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on February 02, 2012, 02:52:49 pm
jacey, if you bothered to look, you would find that I did not screw my clients.

Do you really think you are telling anyone anything they do not know when you mention I am disbarred?

Or do you think it hurts me to have it mentioned?

Or does mentioning it somehow make you feel better about yourself? 

If any of the above, by all means post it here several times day.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Santo4HofF on February 02, 2012, 09:21:15 pm
I never imagined that a person would be so arrogant to use their first and last name as their log in. I googled Jes and read up on him. Questions were answered
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on February 02, 2012, 10:25:35 pm
Arrogant?  Unlike others here, I do not hide who I am.  I never have.  Here or elsewhere.  I could.  It would be extremely easy to do.  And if I were really bothered by anyone knowing I am disbarred, I would.

I always thought it amusing that so many posters are so concerned that others might check on them that they use cutesy names like "Santo4HofF" or   Have to wonder about the character of people who are so determined to maintain their anonymity.... well, with some posters you might wonder, and with some, things are pretty clear.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on February 27, 2012, 12:52:18 pm
Anybody watch the Goose Tatum special on ESPN last night?  Ernie Banks was one of the featured friends of Tatum's who was interviewed.  They said Ernie did some PA announcing for Goose's Harlem Magicians team.  Pretty interesting show.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on March 04, 2012, 05:59:27 pm
Here's a 14 minute video of 19-year-old Greg Maddux pitching for Peoria in 1985.  Rafael Palmeiro is in right and Hector Villanueva is behind the plate.

 http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/2/16/2802410/a-19-year-old-greg-maddux (http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/2/16/2802410/a-19-year-old-greg-maddux)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on March 04, 2012, 06:11:08 pm
Hector Villanueva - or as Harry said Venezuela, Villanova, or Valenzuela.

"When I'm hitting, they say I'm stocky.  When I'm not, they say I'm fat."
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on March 29, 2012, 04:05:06 pm
More Hot Springs, Arkansas, history

Digital Age Meets Golden Days of Baseball as Hot Springs Opens Historic Baseball Trail 
 The latest in digital technology linked to hundreds of baseball legends was on display today [March 29, 2012] as the city inaugurated its one-of-a-kind “baseball trail” documenting Hot Springs’ status as “The Birthplace of Spring Baseball.”
The culmination of a year’s worth of research by five pre-eminent baseball historians was opened to the public on the site where, in 1918, Babe Ruth hammered a 573-foot home run during a spring exhibition game. The historic blast marked the start of the tape-measure home run and the transition of Ruth from a pitcher to the batting legend he was to become.

Visitors may use their mobile smartphones and quick-response codes (QRC) to obtain in-depth information at 26 cast-aluminum plaques throughout the city that mark the spots where the sport’s legends played ball or relaxed while enjoying Hot Springs’ many attractions. By downloading a free mobile app called OnCell, smartphones can read the QRCs and retrieve narrated information about the player commemorated on the plaque.

In addition, visitors to the trail may access a website at www.HotSpringsBaseballTrail.com, which will deliver an over-all experience on information on the trail as a whole and the individual stops along the trail.

Also, visitors will be able to dial a special phone number — 1-501-545-2036 — that will connect them to information about the stops along the trail.

“Our series of 26 historical markers linked to the very latest digital technology allows visitors to tour the city and visit places where America’s baseball legends came to play, train and visit during baseball’s golden age,” said Steve Arrison, CEO of Visit Hot Springs. “ More than 45 percent of the people in the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, N.Y., either played baseball or were in some way associated with baseball training in Hot Springs National Park, Arkansas.”

“One hundred thirty-four of the 295 members of the Hall of Fame can be associated with training, playing, visiting or otherwise being in Hot Springs, many from the late 19th Century,” Arrison said. “Our five historians have painstakingly documented the Hot Springs connection to what became known as the sport’s spring training.

Twenty-six cast-aluminum plaques have been installed all over the city at locations that range from the spot where Babe Ruth in 1918 smacked a home run that traveled 573 feet and landed in an alligator pit at the Arkansas Alligator Farm to the site of the hotel where Ruth flipped a coin with his manager to determine Ruth’s salary for the next year.

A printed brochure showing the plaque locations and how to reach the plaques will be available free at the Downtown Visitor Center in Hill Wheatley Plaza at the south end of historic Bathhouse Row in the center of Hot Springs’ Downtown Historic District.

“What began as our curiosity about why there are so many photos of Babe Ruth at various locations in Hot Springs wound up unearthing a treasure trove of historic associations between the world’s most famous baseball players and Hot Springs, Arkansas,” Arrison said.

“Things really got rolling in the spring of 2011 when we were able to document that Ruth hit the first 500-foot-plus home run while playing spring baseball at Whittington Park. “Bill Jenkinson, one of the pre-eminent baseball historians in the world, came to Hot Springs and helped us authenticate Babe’s legendary 573-foot shot that zoomed over Whittington Park’s fence, across Whittington Avenue and into the Arkansas Alligator Farm.”

After that ceremony, Arrison said, Jenkinson collaborated with Tim Reid from Florida, Don Duren from Dallas, Mark Blaeuer from Hot Springs, and Mike Dugan of Hot Springs to study spring baseball in Hot Springs. The further they dug, the more they began to be amazed by the documented accounts of baseball legends who had come to Hot Springs to play or to relax.
 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on March 29, 2012, 04:05:22 pm
“One hundred thirty-four of the 295 members of the Hall of Fame can be associated with training, playing, visiting or otherwise being in Hot Springs, many from the late 19th Century,” ....impressive.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 20, 2012, 06:38:11 pm

Today in Cubs History - April 20th

   
1916 -    In Chicago, the Cubs play their first game at Weeghman Park beating the Reds in 11 innings, 7-6. The ballpark will be renamed Wrigley Field in 1926.



1946 -
The Cubs are shut out by Cardinal southpaw Harry Brecheen in their home opener at Wrigley Field, 2-0. The game is the first in the club's history be televised with 'Whispering' Joe Wilson doing the play-by-play on Chicago's WBKB.


1955 -    At Wrigley Field, Humberto Robinson makes his major league debut coming out of the Braves' bullpen in 9-5 victory over the Cubs. The 24-year old from Colon is the first player from Panama to appear in a major league game.


1967 -
Rookie hurler Tom Seaver gets his first major-league win when the Mets beat the Cubs, 6-1. 'Tom Terrific' goes 7 2/3 innings giving up eight hits and one run.


1997 -
In the second game of a doubleheader, the Cubs stop their season-opening losing skid at 14 games beating the Mets, 4-3. By losing the opener, Chicago set a National League record (0-14) for the most consecutive losses to start a season and has the second-worst record behind the Baltimore Orioles who lost 21 decisions before winning a game in 1988.



Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 21, 2012, 01:06:51 am


Today in Cubs History - April 21st
   

1959 -
At Wrigley Field, Stan Musial breaks up Glen Hobbie's no-hitter with a two-out seventh inning double. The 23 year-old right-hander settles for a one-hitter going the distance in Cubs 1-0 victory over the Cardinals.


1966 -
The Phillies obtain Larry Jackson and Bob Buhl from the Cubs in exchange for future Hall of Fame hurler Ferguson Jenkins, outfielder Adolfo Phillips, and first baseman/outfielder John Herrnstein. The pair of right-handers will post a 47-53 record collectively for Philadelphia as Chicago's new moundsman will win twenty or more games for six consecutive seasons starting in 1967.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 21, 2012, 10:20:27 am


Today in Cubs History - April 21st
   
1966 -[/b][/color] The Phillies obtain Larry Jackson and Bob Buhl from the Cubs in exchange for future Hall of Fame hurler Ferguson Jenkins, outfielder Adolfo Phillips, and first baseman/outfielder John Herrnstein. The pair of right-handers will post a 47-53 record collectively for Philadelphia as Chicago's new moundsman will win twenty or more games for six consecutive seasons starting in 1967.

A classic example of a team's scouting evaluation limited by consigning a player to one role and failing to see him in any other role, and also of a team seeing a window of opportunity which it wanted to exploit and in the process trading possible future value for perceived present value.

The Phillies in 1966 ended up finishing 87-75, had led nearly all season in 1966 before collapsing at the end, had been 85-76 in 1965, and at the time of the trade, April 21st, they were 4-3.  Buhl the year before had thrown 184 innings and more than 200 innings each of the three prior years, with Jackson had pitched 200 or more innings for each of the last 7 years and 250 or more for each of the prior 5 seasons.

The Phil's top starters before the trade were as follow: Chris Short, 297 innings the year before with an ERA+ of 123; Ray Hebert, age 35 with only 130 innings the year before and an ERA+ of 84; Jim Bunning, still in his prime; and Ray Culp, who the Phils moved back to the bullpen very shortly after the trade.

The Phils had to have looked at that trade as seriously helping their pennant chances in 1966, even if the age of Buhl and Jackson meant they were not likely to help much more than that.

They saw 1966 as a season when they had a legitimate shot, and trading youth with potential future value in exchange for older, established players who are more likely to add value immediately even if not for long, is the way teams like the Phils try to exploit opportunity.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on April 21, 2012, 11:06:25 am
Which is why I think that in almost all situations, it is a bad idea to trade away your top prospects for a small chance in the present.  The Mets threw away Nolan Ryan.  The Expos threw away the big left hander (sorry, I have a mental block and don't feel like looking it up).

Most of the time, the team doesn't win anyway, and has damaged their future.  Even when you manage to win, as the Indians did in the Smoltz trade, it hurts more than it helps.

I am not talking about run of the mill good prospects like Lee and Archer.  I am talking about premium prospects.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on April 21, 2012, 11:36:18 am
Which is why I think that in almost all situations, it is a bad idea to trade away your top prospects for a small chance in the present.  The Mets threw away Nolan Ryan.  The Expos threw away the big left hander (sorry, I have a mental block and don't feel like looking it up).

Randy Johnson
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on April 21, 2012, 12:19:13 pm
Thanks.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 22, 2012, 02:01:12 am

Today in Cubs History - April 22nd


2008 - In a scheduling oddity, both New York big league teams play in Chicago with the Mets playing the Cubs in a matinee, and the Yankees taking on the White Sox in a night game. This unusual occurrence, it's the first time in 11+ years that two teams from one city have played in another city on the same date, may have been necessitated by the Pope's week-end visit to the Bronx, whose appearance included a mass at Yankee Stadium two days ago.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 23, 2012, 01:59:32 am

Today in Cubs History - April 23rd



1924 -
On WMAQ, Hal Totten, a Chicago Daily News play-by-play reporter, does a play-by-play radio report of the 12-1 Cubs' victory over the Cardinals. It will be the first broadcast of every Cub and White Sox home game of the season marking the first time a team's games have been on the airwaves on a regular basis.


1958 -
At the LA Coliseum, Dodger first baseman Gil Hodges hits his 300th career home run and Captain Pee Wee Reese plays in his 2000th game in a 7-6 loss to the Cubs.
 

2008 -
Joining the Giants, the Cubs become the second franchise in major league history to win 10,000 games beating the Rockies in a ten-inning contest at Coors Field, 7-6. Chicago, which has won six in a row and is off to a 15-6 start for only the fourth time in the last century, has a 10,000-9,465 all-time won-loss record during their 122 years of existence in the Windy City.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 24, 2012, 01:29:12 am


Today in Cubs History - April 24th

   
1957 -
Three Cubs pitchers walk nine players in the fifth inning of a 9-5 loss to the Reds at Crosley Field. Moe Drabowsky starts the frame with four walks, Jackie Collum adds three free passes, and Jim Brosnan issues two base on balls to set a new National League record.


1958 -
At the Los Angeles Coliseum, Gene Fodge picks up his only major league win as the Cubs beat the Dodgers, 15-2. Outfielder Lee Walls carries the day with three homers and eight RBIs.


1962 -
Dodger Sandy Koufax ties a major league mark striking out 18 batters in a nine inning game as the Dodgers rout the Cubs, 10-2 at Wrigley Field. Indians right-hander Bob Feller established the record whiffing 18 Tigers in 1938.


1998 -
Dodger backstop Mike Piazza ties a major league record hitting his third grand slam of the month. The blast highlights a nine-run second inning which leads Los Angeles to 12-4 victory over the visiting Cubs.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 25, 2012, 12:34:06 am

Today in Cubs History - April 25th


   
1876    -
The Chicago White Stockings make their National League debut with a 4-0 victory over the Grays at the Louisville Baseball Park. The franchise, which will be also known as the Colts and Orphans before becoming the Cubs in 1903, will finish in first place in the circuit's inaugural season.



1976 -
During the fourth inning of the game being played at Dodger Stadium, Rick Monday becomes a national hero when he takes away an American Flag about to be set on fire by the two trespassers (a father and son) in the outfield. The Cubs' 30-year old fly chaser, who served six years in the Marine Reserves, will be presented the flag a month later in a pre-game ceremony at Wrigley Field by L.A. executive Al Campanis as a gesture of patriotic thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2fd9ivL1Vg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2fd9ivL1Vg)




1989 -
With former players on hand, including Billy Herman, Andy Pafko and Billy Williams, the Cubs celebrate the 75th anniversary of Wrigley Field with a 4-0 victory over L.A. at the Friendly Confines. The 'ceremonial' first pitch of the game, a spitball, is thrown by 97-year old Bob Wright, who appeared in two games for Chicago in 1915 when the team played their home games at West Side Park.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 26, 2012, 02:09:14 am

Today in Cubs History - April 26th



1905 -
Jack McCarthy becomes the first and only major league outfielder to throw out three runners trying to score in one game. All of the 36-year old flychaser's assists result in a double play and help the Cubs to beat Pittsburgh at Exposition Park, 2-1.



1941 -
Wrigley Field becomes the first ballpark to employ an organ to entertain fans. Roy Nelson's pregame serenade doesn't help the Cubs when they fall to Max Lanier and the Cardinals, 4-2.



1997 -
In the Cubs' 7-6 win over Pirates at Wrigley Field, Ryne Sandberg hits his 267th career home run as a second baseman breaking Joe Morgan’s record for the most homers at that position. The mark will not be broken again until 2004 when Jeff Kent of the Astros records his 268th dinger as a second sacker.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 26, 2012, 08:39:24 am
Scoop, don't disappoint me.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 27, 2012, 12:46:14 am

Today in Cubs History - April 27th


1977 -
The Cardinals snap a three-game losing streak routing the Cubs at Wrigley Field, 20-3. Redbirds' shortstop Garry Templeton crosses home plate five times, a team record.






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2003 -
Ozzy, the male osprey of a breeding pair that lived for years on a Jackie Robinson Ballpark's left field light pole, dies at the Audubon Birds of Prey Center as a result being hit by a baseball being thrown trying to knock it off its perch he shared with his mate Harriet and a brood of chicks. Class A Daytona Cubs hurler Jae Kuk Ryu was charged with second-degree misdemeanor by the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission for harming a protected bird.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 06, 2012, 06:13:41 am


Today in Cubs History - May 6th




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1994 -
The Cubs 10-1 victory over the Pirates ends Anthony Young's 29-game losing streak and snaps Chicago's record 14-game drought at home. The hard-luck pitcher set a major league record with 27 consecutive losses while pitching for the Mets, 14 as starter and 13 in relief.

Box score & P-B-P:    http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1994/B05060PIT1994.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1994/B05060PIT1994.htm)







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1998 -
Cubs' rookie Kerry Wood ties a major league record with 20 strikeouts in a nine-inning game as he one-hits the Astros, 2-0. In addition to matching Red Sox fireballer Roger Clemens' feat (Mariners-1986 and Tigers-1996), the 20-year-old Texan breaks the National League record of 19 strikeouts in a nine-inning game shared by Steve Carlton, David Cone and Tom Seaver.

Box score & P-B-P:    http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1998/B05060CHN1998.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1998/B05060CHN1998.htm)






Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 07, 2012, 08:41:37 am
Fred Mitchell with a nice piece on Leon Durham

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0505-mitchell-cubs-leon-durham-chicago--20120505,0,2855294.column
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 12, 2012, 02:40:20 am


Today in Cubs History - May 12th



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May 12, 1955 -
After walking the bases full in the bottom of the ninth, Cubs right-hander Sam 'Toothpick' Jones whiffs Dick Groat, Roberto Clemente and Frank Thomas to preserve his 4-0 no-hitter against the Pirates. Unfortunately only 2,918 fans are on hand at Wrigley Field to witness the first no-hitter ever thrown by a black player and the ninth rookie to throw a hitless game.

Box score & P-B-P:  http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1955/B05120CHN1955.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1955/B05120CHN1955.htm)







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May 12, 1970 -
At Wrigley Field only 5,264 fans see Ernie Banks hit his 500th career home run, but on hand to witness the historic home run is Frank Secory, one of the umpires of the 1953 contest in which Mr. Cub hit his first round-tripper. The second-inning line drive, hit off Braves' pitcher Pat Jarvis into the left-field bleachers, bounces back onto the field and is given to the Cub first baseman after the ball is retrieved by Atlanta outfielder, Rico Carty.

Video:  http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=3547471 (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=3547471)

Box score & P-B-P:  http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1970/B05120CHN1970.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1970/B05120CHN1970.htm)

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on May 17, 2012, 12:25:35 pm
I was musing about the worst Cubs games I've ever watched, and the 1984 playoffs in San Diego easily rank number one. 

However, another game comes close.  I was in Miami for game 5 of the 2003 playoffs.  The Cubs had a 3 games to 1 lead and I was hoping to see Zambrano finish off the Marlins.  Josh Beckett had other ideas.  The actual turning point of the entire series occurred when he threw a brushback pitch to Sammy Sosa.  I think the Cubs were down 2-0 at the time.  I figured Sammy would get up, dust himself off, and hit one out. 

He got up, dusted himself off, and struck out.

That was the turning point of the playoffs.  Not Bartman.  Not Gozalez. Not Prior. Not Farnsworth.  Not Wood.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on May 17, 2012, 12:32:31 pm
The odds were more than 2 to 1 that Sosa would strike out rather than hit a home run.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on June 07, 2012, 10:02:01 am
On June 7 in Baseball History...

1932 - Pitcher John Quinn, at 47, becomes the oldest player to have an extra-base hit (a double) and bat in a run as the Dodgers beat the Cubs 9-2.

1946 - One hour before game time, Pirates players vote 20-16 in favor of a walkout rather than play against the Giants, in order to gain recognition of the American Baseball Guild. To strike, however, requires a two-thirds majority and so the walkout does not occur. Aims of organizer Robert Murphy are not exactly stated, but goals are sometimes identified as a minimum salary of $7,500, arbitration of salary disputes, and players sharing in 50 percent of any sale price.

1966 - The New York Mets, picking first in the June free-agent draft, pass up Arizona State outfielder Reggie Jackson to select catcher Steve Chilcott. Chilcott will retire after six years in the minors and will be the first number-one pick to never play in the major leagues. The A's take Jackson with the second pick.

1967 - The last-place Yankees have the first pick in the free-agent draft and use it to take Ron Blomberg. The Cubs tap shortstop Terry Hughes with the next pick. All 20 first-round picks are high school players, and only 11 will eventually reach the major leagues.

1969 - The Washington Senators name Jeff Burroughs the number one pick in the June free-agent draft. The Astros choose J.R. Richard as the second pick, and the White Sox follow with 3B Ted Nicholson. Cincinnati picks Ken Griffey on the 29th round, while Kansas City, with a record 90 picks, takes Al Cowens with their 84th choice.

1973 - The Rangers make Texas high school pitcher David Clyde the number-one pick in the free-agent draft. He will make his major league debut later this month. Dave Winfield, the number four pick, will go straight to the major leagues. Winfield was also taken in the NBA and NFL drafts. John Stearns is taken second by the Phillies, and the Brewers, picking third, take Robin Yount. Randy Scarbery becomes the first player selected twice in the first round of the regular phase of the draft when the A's take him 23rd. The Astros picked him first in 1970, but he opted for college instead.

1974 - The Padres, with their third number-one free-agent pick in five years, select Brown University shortstop Bill Almon. They had selected him three years earlier out of high school. The Rangers take pitcher Tommy Boggs with the second pick. The Red Sox, picking twientieth, take shortstop Eddie Ford, son of Whitey Ford.

1977 - The White Sox select Harold Baines with the number-one pick in the draft. Bill Veeck had first seen Baines play Little League ball and had followed his career. Pitcher Bill Gullickson is taken with the second pick by the Expos, and Milwaukee takes University of Minnesota infielder Paul Molitor with the third pick. Danny Ainge, a potential pro basketball player, is picked in the 15th round.

1982 - Steve Garvey plays in his 1,000th consecutive game and goes 0-for-4 in a 4-3 loss to the Braves. Garvey's streak is the fifth longest in major league history.

1986 - The Pirates make University of Arkansas third baseman Jeff King the first choice in the June draft. Gregg Swindell is the next pick. Neither will sign for six weeks but Swindell will be in the major leagues after just three starts in the minors. Bo Jackson is taken in the fourth round by the Royals and College Pitcher of the Year Mike Loynd is taken by Texas in the seventh round.

1994 - A's outfielder Rickey Henderson steals his 1,100th career base.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: grrrrlacher on June 13, 2012, 01:52:51 pm
Found this list of the 50 worst MLB draft picks.  Of note:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1197239-mlb-draft-2012-power-ranking-50-worst-draft-busts-of-all-time

39. Jackie Davidson: Chicago Cubs (Sixth Overall Pick, 1983) with Roger Clemens available
30. Ryan Harvey: Chicago Cubs (Sixth Overall Pick, 2003)
1. Josh Booty: Florida Marlins (Fifth Overall Pick, 1994)

Hard to believe that the Cubs only had 2 picks in the top 50. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on June 13, 2012, 02:04:07 pm
Hard to believe that Luis Montenez isn't in the top 50, or top 10
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on June 13, 2012, 02:04:07 pm
The Cubs have also had much worse first rounders than Ryan Harvey.  At least Harvey made it above short season ball for more than 4 IP with the Cubs, unlike Mark Pawelek.  Or at least people thought he was a worthy first round pick when he was chosen, unlike Hayden "Career 6.50 ERA" Simpson.  And of course, there's the all time infamous Cub picks, like Earl Cunningham and Ty Griffin.

Really, Harvey is more of a run of the mill failed first round pick.  Nothing much historic about his failure, except he got to Double-A and never got any further.

Just another one of those stupid lists that people seem to like coming up with that don't really mean anything.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on June 13, 2012, 02:31:28 pm
When writers can't think of anything to write about, they make lists.

The history of Cubs' first round picks is pretty awful.  Recent busts in addition to those mentioned include Bobby Brownlie, Ben Christensen, Todd Noel, and Jon Ratliff.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on June 13, 2012, 02:34:47 pm
When writers can't think of anything to write about, they make lists.

The history of Cubs' first round picks is pretty awful.  Recent busts in addition to those mentioned include Bobby Brownlie, Ben Christensen, Todd Noel, and Jon Ratliff.
Ty Griffin was my biggest disappointment.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on June 13, 2012, 02:40:45 pm
This might be a supplemental first round pick, but one of the absolutely worst first round picks the Cubs made was Matt Clanton in 2002. 

Granted Dave Stockstill whiffed on a lot of high picks in that draft, where he had anywhere from 4-6 high picks to draft players the caliber of Joey Votto, Brian McCann, Jon Lester, Curtis Granderson, and Jonathan Broxton and whiffed on all of them.  (That was one loaded draft, and the Cubs blew a ton of high picks that year.)

But of all of those blown picks, Matt Clanton was definitely the most unconscionable.  He was only regarded as a 3rd-4th round talent by most to begin with and had such a bad attitude that he got kicked off his JUCO team right before the draft.  Yet Stockstill picked him ahead of what was a really loaded 2nd round that year, and Clanton wound up pitching a grand total of 4 IP in the minors. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on June 13, 2012, 02:41:33 pm
My personal meaningless list of worst Cub draft picks since 1995 would be in some order of Mark Pawelek, Hayden Simpson, and Matt Clanton. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on June 13, 2012, 02:50:51 pm
Have you seen this?

http://cubs.scout.com/2/527823.html (http://cubs.scout.com/2/527823.html)
 
Clanton says, his voice filled with emotion, cracking in spots. “Jim Hendry once quoted to me 'This [organization] is not a democracy.  It's a dictatorship.  You shut the f--k up."
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: grrrrlacher on June 13, 2012, 02:51:30 pm
In case anyone forgot.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?query_type=franch_round&draft_type=junreg&team_ID=CHC&draft_round=1&

I'm just going to say that to be considered for worst pick you need to be top 10.  Here are the candidates:

Shawon Dunston
Mark Prior
Joe Carter
Terry Hughes
Josh Vitters
Luis Montanez
Corey Patterson
Drew Hall
Kerry Wood
Mike Harkey
Brian Rosinski
Dean Burk
Albert Almora
Ryan Harvey
Jackie Davidson
Rick James
Herman Segelke
Scot Thompson
Earl Cunningham
Javier Baez
Ty Griffin
Derrick May
Jon Garland
Brooks Kieschnick

Some good but many misses.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on June 13, 2012, 03:30:10 pm
As has been said ad nausium, most picks, even most first round picks, fail.  Brownlie and Christensen and Ratliff were late first round choices, and most late first round choices are more likely to fail than not.  Even Noel was only a 17th  pick in the first round, and probably had about a 10 percent chance to go on to stardom.

Vitters (5?) Montenez (3?) and Davison (6?) are much more spectacular failures.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on June 13, 2012, 04:09:46 pm
So Clanton quit on his high school team and his jaycee team.  The jaycee team in the middle of a playoff game. 

Looks like the Cubs scouting staff didn't do due diligence on an $800k mistake.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on June 13, 2012, 04:22:21 pm
A quality, quality guy....
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on June 13, 2012, 04:37:21 pm
Well, until you tell him to shut the f--k up.  Then his life is ruined.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on June 13, 2012, 05:54:55 pm
He and Milton Bradley are two excellent examples of why GMs need to require psych evaluations on many of the guys they shell out big money for.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on June 15, 2012, 09:28:50 am
Billy Williams is 74 today.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on July 07, 2012, 09:41:19 am
July 7, 1993 - Tom Browning decides that he has seen the view from the dugout often enough, so he leaves Wrigley Field and watches the Reds beat the Cubs 4-3 from the roof of a three-story building across Sheffield Avenue. He is fined $500 for leaving the dugout - not to mention the ballpark - during a game.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on July 07, 2012, 11:49:43 am
Had he started, and been taken out of that game?  I remember seeing him up there, but don't remember the details.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on July 07, 2012, 01:47:32 pm
Had he started, and been taken out of that game?  I remember seeing him up there, but don't remember the details.

Nope.  He had last started three days earlier, and next started on the 9th.  On the 7th the Reds beat the Cubs 4-3, the same score it was at the end of the 3rd inning.  http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN199307070.shtml

In other words Browning deserved every penny of his fine and then some.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 12, 2012, 08:32:42 am
Maury references Santo:

http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1798687525/Base-thief-Wills-being-robbed-when-it-comes-to-Hall-of-Fame
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on July 12, 2012, 09:01:13 am
Good article Curt...I always figured Wills was already in the HOF...dummy me
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on July 12, 2012, 09:06:54 am
Quote
Phil Rizzuto collected 1,588 hits in his major league career and batted .273. He’s in the Hall of Fame.

Pee Wee Reese had a .269 career batting average, stole 232 bases and never won a Gold Glove. He’s in the Hall of Fame.

Bill Mazeroski stole all of 27 bases, batted .260 for his career but won eight Gold Gloves. He’s in the Hall of Fame.

Well Rizzuto is one of the weakest Hall of Famers, and Mazeroski is in because he's regarded as the best defensive second baseman of all-time.  The writer isn't making a very good argument comparing Wills to those guys at all. 

(Reese finished in the Top 10 in MVP voting 8 times in 16 years and finished with much higher OBP's and SLG's. Not an especially great comp either.)

Wills had a really fine career, but he has a career .330 OBP and .661 OPS.  It's not a travesty that he's been left out.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on July 12, 2012, 09:07:53 am
With Ron Santo, you didn't have to make his case by comparing him to the low tier Hall of Famers.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on July 12, 2012, 09:42:27 am
The key question for Wills, and for many other players, is the criteria for determining entry.

If it is aggregate performance, then Wills doesn't really come close.  If it is peak year value, he really only gets a tepid argument.  If it is impact on the game itself, Wills is a first ballot HOFer.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on July 12, 2012, 10:25:01 am
If it is aggregate performance, then Wills doesn't really come close.  If it is peak year value, he really only gets a tepid argument.  If it is impact on the game itself, Wills is a first ballot HOFer.

I can go along with that.  I think Bruce Miles made a good point a long time ago, in saying it's the Hall of Fame and not the Hall of Stats when he making his case for voting for Jack Morris. 

Overall for his career statistically, Wills has just a marginal case.  Statistically, his career is most similar to guys like Luis Castillo, Larry Bowa, and Steve Sax.  Still, people will probably remember Wills a lot longer than they will Castillo or Sax because of his impact on the game in bringing the stolen base back and having a pretty strong peak career.   That's probably where the Hall of Fame vs. Hall of Stats argument comes in, and it's not a horrible argument for including Wills.

If he ever does make the Hall, he'd be pretty far from the most outrageous choice for induction, and I'd go along with it if it ever happens.  Still, his case isn't a strong one either and not nearly as comparable to someone like Ron Santo's.  Wills being left out of the Hall isn't nearly the travesty that leaving Santo out for all of those years was.

EDIT:  Bad choice of words about Wills only having a "very borderline case at best".
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 12, 2012, 10:32:26 am
I just saw the reference to Santo and waiting till a guy was dead.  Thought it might be worth a gander.

JR, for years I've considered the stars of the game the guys who you'd buy a ticket to see.  And who from the other team could singlehandedly beat you.  And who from the other team worried you the most.  Growing up as a Giants fan in Northern California, that guy was Maury Wills.  That's all I can say.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on July 12, 2012, 11:08:42 am
That's all I can say.

If only that was true . . .
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 12, 2012, 11:19:13 am
Skrhu u, JR.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on July 12, 2012, 01:01:06 pm
Having never seen Wills play, how was his impact on the game different than, say, mid-late 80's Vince Coleman?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on July 12, 2012, 01:38:57 pm
The difference was that Wills was first.  Before him, stolen bases had gone out of style, much as it had in th 90s and 00s.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 12, 2012, 02:41:32 pm
Dave23, I remember Wills as being one of the only weapons the Dodgers had.  Not true, they had the Davis boys and stellar starting pitching, but it was so frustrating to see Wills walk, steal second, steal third and then Junior Gilliam, Willie Davis, or Tommy Davis would single or hit a fly or whatever, Koufax would throw a shut out, and the Dodgers would go home with yet another 1-0 win.  I'm sure it only happened on occasion but it seemed like every game.

I don't recall Henderson or Coleman or Brock ever having that impact.  Brock won the Cards a lot of games and Henderson did the same for the A's and Yankees, but there was this thing about the Dodgers that the first thing you thought of for several years was...oh, yeah, Maury Wills.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on July 12, 2012, 09:54:37 pm
I remember Tommy Herr driving in 100+ runs from the 2 hole one season, with only 5 HR's...and seemingly half of those RBIs coming on ground balls to 2nd base after Coleman got on base and made his way to 3B...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 12, 2012, 10:13:53 pm
Good point, but, like davep said, Wills, in the modern era was key to a team who proved first it was another way to score...often.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on July 12, 2012, 11:37:42 pm
During the steroid era, stealing bases went out of style because it was better to wait for the big guys to hit home runs.  with home runs on the decline, stealing seems to be coming back a little bit.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on July 22, 2012, 05:07:24 pm
(https://p.twimg.com/Aybd1duCAAA4HN1.jpg)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on July 23, 2012, 08:23:03 am
Nice article by Rogers on Santo's induction:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0723-rogers-on-baseball--20120723,0,7418017.column
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on July 23, 2012, 11:32:15 am
"Rogers" and "nice article" are oxymorons.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on July 23, 2012, 11:32:52 am
From Wired:

1962: The Telstar 1 communications satellite relays the first trans-Atlantic television signal in history.

Telstar was the product of an international collaboration to push the development of satellite communications. NASA, AT&T, Bell Labs and the French and British national post offices were all involved, with Bell Labs doing the actual construction.

A spherical satellite festooned with solar panels and packed with transistors, Telstar used a helical antenna to receive microwave signals from the ground station, which were then amplified and rebroadcast to the main receiving station in southern England.

The satellite was launched July 10 aboard a NASA Delta rocket and placed in an orbit that provided for a narrow, 20-minute transmission period per orbit.

President Kennedy was supposed to launch this historic moment in communications with a trans-Atlantic press conference, but the transmission signal was acquired before JFK was ready, so Ernie Banks may have been the first human image relayed across the Atlantic. Needing to kill a little time, the producers picked up a TV broadcast of a major league ballgame between the Philadelphia Phillies and Chicago Cubs from Wrigley Field.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on July 23, 2012, 12:52:12 pm
Amazing that Joe West still has his job 21 years later.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on July 23, 2012, 10:04:29 pm
Did the Care Bears throw up all over Dan Roan's shirt?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on August 30, 2012, 03:25:58 pm
Adam Greenberg seeks one official at-bat with help of campaign and petition

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/adam-greenberg-seeks-one-official-bat-help-campaign-171733871--mlb.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/adam-greenberg-seeks-one-official-bat-help-campaign-171733871--mlb.html)

Nice story but it is not going to happen.

Actually with as much crap as there is right now on the Cubs roster, that's a feel good story Theo and Ricketts should pick up on.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on August 30, 2012, 08:06:50 pm
It would be an even nicer story if he came back for one more at bat and got hit in the head again.

I should have been an author.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on August 30, 2012, 08:59:42 pm
You're one sick ********
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on August 31, 2012, 12:09:54 am
How can you be a teacher if you can't spell.

The correct spelling is one sick *&%#$*&*
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on September 05, 2012, 06:26:03 pm
I agree.  Imagine the howling if the player cut to make room for him turned out to be anything for some other team.

Well, the Cubs have plenty of 40 man roster spots that aren't going to really great use.

I'm not sure the chances are all that great that losing Michael Socolovich or Anthony Recker would ever really hurt us down the road.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on September 05, 2012, 06:51:33 pm
I'm not sure the chances are all that great that losing Michael Socolovich or Anthony Recker would ever really hurt us down the road.

The chances of either player ever being good down the road are not very good.  Buy their chances are infinitely greater than the chances of Greenberg being good down the road.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on September 05, 2012, 07:19:42 pm
The chances of either player ever being good down the road are not very good.  Buy their chances are infinitely greater than the chances of Greenberg being good down the road.

Honestly, though, sometimes you just need to put stuff like that aside.  It's been a terribly crappy season.  It'd be one of the very few feel good moments we'd have this year if they gave him a shot. 

I think really there's more to be said for having a feel good story like that during an extremely trying season than to make sure we don't miss out on the 1% chance of Socolovich or Recker turning into a meaningful player.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on September 06, 2012, 10:36:01 am
I'm surprised Greenberg is going along with this.  It's nothing more than exploitation.  If he couldn't stick with an independent team, he knows he has no business in the majors.

Plus, right now he is unique in major league history.  A latter day Moonlight Graham. 

Giving me an at bat makes as much sense. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on September 06, 2012, 01:53:23 pm
Giving me an at bat makes as much sense. 

Let's start a petition drive....
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on September 06, 2012, 03:10:37 pm
He's much more memorable if he never gets the AB, sad as that might be...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on September 06, 2012, 03:21:08 pm
How would you like to be the guy who was cut for nothing more than a publicity stunt?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on September 06, 2012, 03:37:13 pm
Is that better or worse than being traded for a box of baseballs, or a few bats?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on September 06, 2012, 03:58:28 pm
How would you like to be the guy who was cut for nothing more than a publicity stunt?

I don't know that a guy would need to be cut for him to get an at-bat.

Some teams current 40-man rosters are below 40 (without looking, I'm just guessing), so he could sign with them and play one game on the last day of the season and then be released in the offseason without anyone losing their job.

I'm against this in every form, though.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on September 06, 2012, 04:28:08 pm
I don't think that it wouldn't be the first time that a guy was cut because of a publicity stunt.

There was a time that Veeck activated a midget for a game.  He probably cut someone.  And they brought back Minnie Minoso for a game when he was in his fifties, again, having to make room for him.

They there was the time that the Dodgers did it for a better reason.  One of their players from back in the 50s was cut just a few days short of the point (5 years) where he would get a pension check for life.  They brought him back for, I believe, a couple of weeks or so, to make him eligible for retirement.  Charlie Neal, or someone from that team.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on September 06, 2012, 05:40:01 pm
Did the teams involved get special dispensation of any kind so that they didn't have to cut someone? 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on September 06, 2012, 06:00:25 pm
I have no idea.  Nor am I certain what the rules were for rostering back then.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Santo4HofF on September 07, 2012, 06:25:04 am
Couldn't the cubs tale someone like Camp or Corpas if they are free agent at end of season and cut them for the last day of the season. Then sign Greenberg and give him his one at bat.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on September 07, 2012, 11:36:07 am
I think there are several ways they could play Greenberg for one game without having a detectable effect on the team, long term.

But why?  I don't see the purpose of having Greenberg play another game.  Right now, he is in the record books.  With his second appearance, he disappears from it.  It isn't as if he has any chance of winning a spot on the team.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on September 07, 2012, 11:55:05 am
Let him sing during the 7th inning stretch.

That's about all I would give him.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on September 18, 2012, 08:54:32 pm


(http://mlbreports.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/ryne_sandberg_pic3.jpg)

Ryne Sandberg turns 53 today.



Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on September 18, 2012, 09:36:53 pm
He looks a lot younger.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on October 22, 2012, 04:46:59 pm

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4lJTcxT9wLY/SNfLpgC0urI/AAAAAAAAD3o/mzp_opf7dDY/s400/44TA.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4lJTcxT9wLY/SNfLp_Gi9OI/AAAAAAAAD3w/lcpXWPS_-ao/s400/44TB.jpg)



Worst 1st round pick in Cubs' history?

Chosen with the 9th pick in the 1st round of the 1988 draft. I never understood why the Cubs drafted a 2nd baseman when Ryne Sandberg was just entering his prime. They needed a 3rd baseman and arguably the best player from the 1988 draft, Robin Ventura, was a third baseman and was chosen next with the 10th pick by the White Sox.  Also still on the board when the Cubs pick Griffin was Tino Martinez (chosen by the Mariners with the 14th pick) and Royce Clayton (picked 15th by the Giants). Ventura, Martinez and Clayton each played in over 2000 major league games while Griffin never played in a MLB game and didn't even reach Triple-A.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?year_ID=1988&draft_round=1&draft_type=junreg&query_type=year_round (http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?year_ID=1988&draft_round=1&draft_type=junreg&query_type=year_round)



Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on October 22, 2012, 05:04:47 pm
Earl Cunningham was a close second.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JeffH on October 22, 2012, 06:03:41 pm
They were probably obsessed with finding a "leadoff man".
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on October 22, 2012, 07:03:43 pm
Jackie Davidson was probably a worse pick at number 6.
Title: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on October 22, 2012, 07:57:34 pm
Griffin walked enough to have nice OBPs...he just couldn't hit a lick...
Title: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on October 22, 2012, 07:58:24 pm
Cunningham was worse than Griffin. He was just awful.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on October 22, 2012, 08:02:45 pm
What about this lefty pitcher from Idaho...Pawlesomething?  Never did a lick.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: grrrrlacher on December 23, 2012, 11:33:25 pm
Found this interesting.  Discussion on Sosa's chances to make the HOF.  Discuss.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/21411401/ranking-the-hall-of-fame-candidates-no-13-sammy-sosa
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on December 28, 2012, 01:50:07 pm
12/28 RIP, Jimmy Farrell

You probably never noticed Jimmy Farrell. He’d prefer it that way. Farrell was the umpires clubhouse attendant at Wrigley Field, starting in 1982, and held that job until 2007. He loved his work.

Farrell passed away this week. He was 91.

In a 2000 interview for my book, “Banks to Sandberg to Grace,” he talked about his job and some of the fun he had.

“I haven’t met a bad umpire since I’ve been here,” he said. “We have a lot of fun over the years, like Joe West, for instance. At the All-Star Game one time — this is going back. The umpires tip me. They tip me pretty good. When I got home, I told my wife Eleanor what I had. So, Joe West sees her the next day and he says, ‘Oh, Eleanor, did Jimmy buy you a fur coat with the money he made?’ and he told her how much I made.

“See, I cheated a little bit on Eleanor that time,” Farrell said, sheepishly. “A little bit, you know. She says, ‘Jimmy, Joe West told me you made such and such.’ I said, ‘He’s kidding you. You know how Joe is. He’s kidding you.’

“So, Harry Wendlestedt is the crew chief at the time, and the next time they come in, I said, ‘Harry, you once told me that everything that’s said in this clubhouse stays here. One of these umpires told my wife something he shouldn’t have told.’ And, Harry said, ‘What?’

“And so I told him,” Farrell said. “Harry fined him $50 for that.”

Farrell could be spotted during games standing near the middle steps of the Cubs dugout. That spot nearly proved dangerous in 1991 when Andre Dawson, upset at West’s calls in a game, hurled a bunch of bats from the dugout onto the field in anger. The bats nearly hit Farrell in the head. Dawson later apologized to Farrell, not West.

Before every game, Farrell would take the game ball to the mound, and once left a rabbit’s foot for Rick Sutcliffe, who picked it up, put it in his pocket, and won that day. Farrell put a penny on the mound one time for Dickie Noles, which he kept.

Farrell also would join in the gag when the umpires asked an unsuspecting bat boy to find the key to the bullpen.

The umpire’s room used to be near the Cubs clubhouse and was a popular spot before the team created a video room. The Cubs players would sneak in to watch the television and see how the opposing pitcher was throwing. Players also would stop by just to chat with Farrell, a trusting grandfatherly type. Ryne Sandberg and Kerry Wood were among his favorites.

Farrell and his wife, Eleanor, were married for 68 years prior to her death. He is survived by four children, nine grandchildren and four great-grandchildren. Services are pending.

– Carrie Muskat
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on December 28, 2012, 01:50:45 pm
For me, Wrigley Field has always been more than the ivy, its history, and the Cubs.    Guys like Jimmie Farrell and Yosh Kawano were a big part of it too.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on January 08, 2013, 01:27:17 pm
I'm going to be very disappointed if this guy doesn't get enough support to stay on the HOF ballot.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/loftoke01.shtml
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on January 08, 2013, 01:54:42 pm
Not as bad as Lou Whitaker dropping early, but yeah...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on January 08, 2013, 02:17:43 pm
Yeah that's pretty serious omission.

I was looking at how the Veterans Committee handles its voting.  Looks like the next time they will consider Expansion Era players is 2014.  It'd probably be a fun project to put together a list of players they need to consider.

Whitaker and (probably) Lofton would have to be two of the guys they would need to consider the most.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on January 08, 2013, 02:24:30 pm
You know this whole steroids mess and how many voters are in a tizzy as to how to deal with it may require yet another committee.  Made up of young and old writers and young and old players, they may have to sift through and make up criteria, like how long someone reputedly used, why they used, how much it may have effected their stats, and then make recommendations to the voters.  For example, some guy who used because he was injured as opposed to some guy like Bonds who used because he wanted to set records.  Does a guy get somewhat of a break for coming clean as opposed to some guy who continues to deny, ala Clemens.  It would be a mess, but it already is.  I'm not even beginning to suggest where to draw the line, but as I read articles by some of the voters, that's where they are already...wondering where to draw the line.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: wmljohn on January 08, 2013, 02:50:01 pm
I think they should just build a whole new damned wing of the HOF and put nothing in it except a bunch of name plates with everyone's name on it that played a minimum of 9 innings during that era. 

Then have a sign that say's everyone in this wing was either cheated out of a spot in the HOF because they were clean or cheated to get in.  We couldn't make up our mind who was deserving or who wasn't because we didn't know where to draw the line so to be fair we just put everone in.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: wmljohn on January 08, 2013, 02:51:05 pm
And they should spell it EVERone just like I did.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on January 08, 2013, 03:05:35 pm
Moran.  It's everbody.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on January 08, 2013, 04:47:41 pm
Not as bad as Lou Whitaker dropping early, but yeah...

Wasn't Santo bumped off the ballot after just a few seasons because of lack of support?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on January 08, 2013, 04:51:05 pm
You know this whole steroids mess and how many voters are in a tizzy as to how to deal with it may require yet another committee.  Made up of young and old writers and young and old players, they may have to sift through and make up criteria, like how long someone reputedly used, why they used, how much it may have effected their stats, and then make recommendations to the voters.  For example, some guy who used because he was injured as opposed to some guy like Bonds who used because he wanted to set records.  Does a guy get somewhat of a break for coming clean as opposed to some guy who continues to deny, ala Clemens.  It would be a mess, but it already is.  I'm not even beginning to suggest where to draw the line, but as I read articles by some of the voters, that's where they are already...wondering where to draw the line.

And if they do, and even one of the "cheaters" they identify was not a cheater (or was and still denies it), and the HOF would be begging for a defamation lawsuit.
Title: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on January 08, 2013, 06:01:29 pm
Yes, Santo was dropped pretty early...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on January 09, 2013, 11:19:22 am
Tom Verducci was just on with Colin Cowherd.  His take in talking to other writers is that the HOF writers are going to do something along the lines of what I suggested yesterday.  Any player that has suspicion or has been strongly implicated in the steroid mess will NEVER be elected by the writers.  They will let their eligibility expire and leave it to the Veterans Committee, which by then will have some of their contemporaries on it, and these guys have a good idea who was doing what and to what extent and for what reasons, and they will sort out who gets in.

Right or wrong, that's the trend.  He was asked point blank about Big Mac, Sosa, Bonds, Palmeiro...Cowherd went down the whole list, and on each of those he said, "He'll never get in."

Just reporting.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FDISK on February 05, 2013, 06:03:11 pm
Has anyone ever done this?

http://imaginesports.com/imagine/baseball/discovery/home/dm
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on February 18, 2013, 08:04:22 am
The MLB Network has been showing a program titled The 50 Greatest Finishes in MLB History.   “Finish” was usually, but not always the final at bat.    For some unexplained reason, they kept making the point that only games from 1962 and later were considered as that was when the regular season switched to 162 games.
 
#7 - Luis Gonzalez’ single to win the 2001 World Series for the Diamondbacks.  I’m sorry, but  a HBP followed by a throwing error by the pitcher and a bloop hit 8” onto the outfield grass shouldn’t even make the list.

#4 - Kirk Gibson’s “I don’t believe what I just saw” homer off Dennis Eckersley.

#3 -  Carlton Fisk’s fair or foul homer against Cincinnati.

#2 -  Bill Buckner letting a grounder go through his legs.

#1 -  Joe Carter’s World Series winning home run.

“The Sandberg Game”  might have made it had it been in late September.

The program is worth watching but not by much.  There might be a slight New York Yankees bias to it.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Eastcoastfan on February 18, 2013, 05:58:30 pm
Did either the Brant Brown or Adolpho Phillips games make the list?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on February 22, 2013, 12:10:37 pm
Thought this was pretty interesting.....

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2013/2/22/4017344/cubs-coincidence-steve-bartman-ryne-sandberg-gary-matthews
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on February 22, 2013, 12:31:17 pm
That is cool.   The guy who wrote needs to turn off spell check so his "of" and "off" get fixed, but he needs to contact national media...seeing that comparison might get them to quit with the Bartman shtick or at least ease up a bit.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on March 01, 2013, 01:26:57 pm
Harry Caray would've been 99 years old today.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on March 01, 2013, 02:05:27 pm
Holy Cow!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on March 17, 2013, 09:24:33 pm
Though Curt posted this in the Bleachers topic, it seems more appropriate here.

http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=796515

Obsessed fan who shot player, inspired movie, dies
March 17, 2013, 1:48 PM EST
By DON BABWIN, Associated Press
CHICAGO (AP) — A woman whose shooting of a former Cubs baseball player in 1949 inspired a book and the movie "The Natural" has died.

Find: More on the Eddie Waitkus shooting

Ruth Ann Steinhagen died of natural causes at 83 in late December in Chicago. She had lived more than half a century in obscurity. Her passing was not noticed by the media until three months later.

But in 1949, she made headlines around the country. On June 14 of that year, she lured major league baseball player Eddie Waitkus into a hotel room with a note, then shot him, nearly killing him.

She was declared insane and spent about 2 1/2 years in a mental hospital before she was freed. She quietly lived the rest of her life in Chicago.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on March 22, 2013, 05:09:03 am
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_article/30000-days-of-ernie-banks/


Thursday, March 21, 2013
30,000 days of Ernie Banks
Posted by Chris Jaffe

30,000 days ago, one of the most famous players of his generation was born: Mr. Cub, Ernie Banks.

Banks had quite the memorable career for himself. Playing at a time when players on second-division teams virtually never won MVP Awards, Banks won two while serving as shortstop for the sad sack Chicago Cubs. Playing at a time when no NL player had ever won back-to-back MVP Awards, Banks did so in 1958-59. And, of course, he broke both traditions at the same time.

It’s fairly easy to see why Banks created such a sensation. Before he reached his prime, no National League shortstop ever had hit 40 homers in a season. Heck, none had ever hit 30, or even 25. Alvin Dark set the standard when he banged out 23 for the Giants in 1953. In 1955, in just his second full season, Banks bonked 44.

Okay, so some AL shortstops had previously hit more than 23 homers in a season before Banks. Even still, there weren’t that many, and only one, Vern Stephens, had ever made it to 30. Now Banks had 44.

Despite missing part of 1956 with injury, he still hit 28 than season. Only Stephens had done that before. Not bad for an injured 25-year-old.

Banks really hit his prime beginning in 1957: 43 homers, then 47, 45, and 41. In 1958 and 1959, he also led the league in RBIs. And he did this while manning the most important defensive position. Heck, he even led the league in fielding percentage in 1959. That helped him win those 1958-59 MVPs.

However, as plenty of THT readers have already noticed, we’re looking solely at the old-school, traditional stats here. That makes sense when explaining the perception of Banks, but ... well, there’s a but. Those old-school stats aren’t as all-important as they once were, and in the modern eye Banks’ big seasons aren’t quite as impressive.

You could call Banks overrated. Wrigley Field is a hitters park, and fielding average is at best a blunt instrument. Also, Banks never was very good at working the count, so his on-base percentage never was all that high. Yeah, you can go that direction.

But even if you do make all those points, Banks was still one of the best players in that era. Let’s look at WAR as our default sabemetric stat. It says he was the second-best player in the 1958 NL (behind only Willie Mays) and the best in 1959. Even when he’s behind Mays, it’s by less than a game, so you can make a nice case for both awards.

With raw numbers as great as his, Banks was a fantastic offense force regardless of park factor. Oh, and by the way, in the late 1950s Wrigley Field was not, in fact, a hitter’s park. It was neutral and if anything leaned a bit toward the pitchers. And WAR agrees with fielding percentage about Banks’ defense, calling him the best-fielding player in the entire NL in 1959.

But all that misses what really makes Banks so special. He wasn’t just a great player but also a great ambassador for the game. He was a sunny, extremely root-for-able player. He took joy in his professional calling. He didn’t just say “Let’s play two!”; he exuded that spirit. No wonder he played in over 700 straight games before a knee injury. In his Historical Baseball Abstract, Bill James called Banks the admirable star of the 1950s. It’s hard to find anyone arguing against that.

Regardless of the numbers, Banks is, by all accounts, a wonderful person, and that person entered this world 30,000 days ago.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on March 22, 2013, 03:33:43 pm
Great stuff thanks jes
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on April 01, 2013, 10:45:19 am
I've posted this one a few times, but this is a really good film called "King of the Hill" on Ferguson Jenkins and the early 70's Cubs.  Nice one to watch to get ready for Opening Day.

http://www.nfb.ca/film/king_of_the_hill/?hpe=carrousel#temp-share-panel
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 16, 2013, 10:58:41 am
Ernie Banks scouting report courtesy of Carrie Muskat

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BH-joYjCMAEm2Sa.jpg)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 16, 2013, 11:30:18 am
Wasn't 10K a pretty significant signing bonus in 1953?  My memory is that ten years later signing bonuses of $100K were considered shockingly outrageous, though some prospects (I think I recall a mid-60's Sport magazine article about Mike Epstein signing for $100K, and Yaz signed for 100K) were getting them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_baby
The Bonus Rule was a rule instituted by Major League Baseball in 1947 that prevented teams from assigning certain players to farm clubs.[1] The rule stipulated that when a Major league team signed a player to a contract in excess of $4,000 ($41,100 today), the Major League team was required to keep that player on the 40-man roster for two full-seasons.... 
Bonus babies were the group of amateur baseball players who went straight to the Major Leagues between the years 1947–1965.
Players who received a signing bonus in excess of $4,000 during that era have been identified as 'Bonus Babies'. The Bonus Rule prevented the player from spending time in the Minor League baseball system that was, and is, the training ground for most professional baseball players in the United States of America.




Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on April 16, 2013, 12:08:48 pm
Here's another set of renderings of the Wrigley renovations.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/photos/gallery/_/id/8870086/image/1/wrigley-renderings-marquee-view-proposed-wrigley-field-renovations (http://espn.go.com/chicago/photos/gallery/_/id/8870086/image/1/wrigley-renderings-marquee-view-proposed-wrigley-field-renovations)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 16, 2013, 01:16:59 pm
Wasn't 10K a pretty significant signing bonus in 1953?  My memory is that ten years later signing bonuses of $100K were considered shockingly outrageous, though some prospects (I think I recall a mid-60's Sport magazine article about Mike Epstein signing for $100K, and Yaz signed for 100K) were getting them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_baby
The Bonus Rule was a rule instituted by Major League Baseball in 1947 that prevented teams from assigning certain players to farm clubs.[1] The rule stipulated that when a Major league team signed a player to a contract in excess of $4,000 ($41,100 today), the Major League team was required to keep that player on the 40-man roster for two full-seasons.... 
Bonus babies were the group of amateur baseball players who went straight to the Major Leagues between the years 1947–1965.
Players who received a signing bonus in excess of $4,000 during that era have been identified as 'Bonus Babies'. The Bonus Rule prevented the player from spending time in the Minor League baseball system that was, and is, the training ground for most professional baseball players in the United States of America.






The $10K mentioned in the scouting report on Banks would not be a signing bonus for Ernie.  That $10K would be the purchase price for his contract and would entirely go to the K.C. Monarchs.




Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 17, 2013, 05:49:03 pm
The $10K mentioned in the scouting report on Banks would not be a signing bonus for Ernie.  That $10K would be the purchase price for his contract and would entirely go to the K.C. Monarchs.

Oooooh.... ugly.  Of course Banks was obviously overjoyed just to get a chance to play in the majors.

Interesting scouting report.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on April 29, 2013, 08:45:43 am
Former Cubs manager Lee Elia no longer haunted by legendary profanity-laced rant

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“There’s no question that if it happened today, he would have been fired that night,’’ said Bob Ibach, then the Cubs’ director of media relations.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/19779335-573/former-cubs-manager-lee-elia-no-longer-haunted-by-legendary-profanity-laced-rant.html (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/19779335-573/former-cubs-manager-lee-elia-no-longer-haunted-by-legendary-profanity-laced-rant.html)

The tirade

http://www.speakeasy.org/~bucky/elia_tirade.html (http://www.speakeasy.org/~bucky/elia_tirade.html)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 09, 2013, 10:06:41 am
May 9, 1993 - Mark Grace hit for the cycle.  No Cub has done it since.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 12, 2013, 12:34:48 am

Today In Cubs History - May 12th


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May 12, 1970 - At Wrigley Field only 5,264 fans see Ernie Banks hit his 500th career home run, but on hand to witness the historic home run is Frank Secory, one of the umpires of the 1953 contest in which Mr. Cub hit his first round-tripper. The second-inning line drive, hit off Braves' pitcher Pat Jarvis into the left-field bleachers, bounces back onto the field and is given to the Cub first baseman after the ball is retrieved by Atlanta outfielder, Rico Carty.

Video:  http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=3547471 (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=3547471)

Boxscore & P-B-P:  http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1970/B05120CHN1970.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1970/B05120CHN1970.htm)

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on May 14, 2013, 02:45:18 pm
The Cubs have detailed all of the Wrigley renovation plans here.

http://www.wrigleyfield.com/ (http://www.wrigleyfield.com/)

On the website, there's a halfway interesting video narrated by Pat Hughes showing some of the planned changes at Wrigley.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0YpSYnECp4
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 14, 2013, 07:45:10 pm

107% increase in concession area but only 42% increase in restroom space.  Look for possibly even longer lines to use the restrooms during the 35+K attendance games.

Interesting that the Cubs produced video didn't included the revised outfield (Jumbtron & RF sign).   They must significantly block the rooftop views to not be included in the computer generated video.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 15, 2013, 09:32:56 am
Jim Litke with a rather opinionated piece on the Wrigley Field restoration

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CHICAGO -- If the Cubs were half as good at baseball as they are at artist's renderings, the team would have left Wrigley Field behind long before now.

But it's the aging ballpark that's propped up the franchise for nearly a century now, not the other way around. Owner Tom Ricketts knows that like he knows his own name, and this, too: Winning the World Series is hard; making money off Wrigley Field is easy.

Quote
To summarize: Ricketts want tax breaks, a few public sidewalks, as much advertising space as possible, a bigger cut of the commercial action in the neighborhood, and here's the big stretch -- for the rooftop owners to learn to live with it, or better yet, simply go away.

Considering how many of the people he'll be dealing with are Cubs fans, Ricketts will probably get everything he wants, and then go back to the real business of the ballclub: losing.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=9276880 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=9276880)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on May 15, 2013, 02:54:55 pm
What a d!ck.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 15, 2013, 03:49:26 pm
What a d!ck.

Maybe but he's telling the truth.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on May 17, 2013, 01:00:32 pm
(http://www.goldenagebaseballcards.com/showcase/images/59Topps-478Bob%20Clemente.jpg)

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One personal memory of mine relates to Roberto Clemente — the home run that he hit on May 17, 1959 in Wrigley Field, which has been considered the longest home run in Wrigley Field history. Others will say Dave Kingman or Glenallen Hill have the longest and that is hard to debate since no measurement was taken of Clemente's shot because no one saw where it finally landed.  But, if you have doubts ask Ernie Banks who was at shortstop or Bobby Thomson who was in center field for the Cubs.

http://www.goldenagebaseballcards.com/showcase/roberto-clemente-wrigley.htm (http://www.goldenagebaseballcards.com/showcase/roberto-clemente-wrigley.htm)

It's hard to imagine any ball hit farther than Glenallen Hill's rooftop shot.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on May 17, 2013, 01:03:35 pm
You mean this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wDrw76ieTs
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on May 17, 2013, 01:05:31 pm
It's always nice to have an excuse to post that video.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on June 03, 2013, 03:29:40 pm
Ten years ago today

2003 -- Sammy Sosa was ejected in the first inning of Chicago's 3-2 win over the Tampa Bay Devil Rays after umpires found cork in his shattered bat.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 03, 2013, 03:36:21 pm
Ten years ago today

2003 -- Sammy Sosa was ejected in the first inning of Chicago's 3-2 win over the Tampa Bay Devil Rays after umpires found cork in his shattered bat.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WrXVdwIGfuI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WrXVdwIGfuI)


Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on June 03, 2013, 03:48:13 pm
It was a pretty well known umpiring crew:

 HP - Tim McClelland, 1B - Tony Randazzo, 2B - Ted Barrett, 3B - Lance Barksdale
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on June 10, 2013, 01:28:36 pm
Harry's good friend Pete Vonachen has died

http://www.pjstar.com/news/x1391864007/Pete-Vonachen-dies#axzz2Vq6L6XrI

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on June 12, 2013, 12:58:25 pm
VIDEO: The Chicago Cubs rap song
 
Back in 1989, some great American figured the Chicago Cubs needed a rap song to boost them over the hump after years of futility. It has aged WONDERFULLY.

http://www.redeyechicago.com/videogallery/76273914/VIDEO-The-Chicago-Cubs-rap-song (http://www.redeyechicago.com/videogallery/76273914/VIDEO-The-Chicago-Cubs-rap-song)

I don't remember this at all.  Maybe it didn't get much attention outside of Chicago.  Seeing those players sure brings back memories.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on June 12, 2013, 01:00:50 pm
I think I managed to get through about 30 seconds of that video.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 13, 2013, 04:52:57 pm
Today in Cubs History - June 13th


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ipNiKLqepdA/Tmu8BFy986I/AAAAAAAAMdM/zBO3b2Oz8o0/s1600/Corncob%2Bdress.JPG)

June 13, 1994 - At the age of 34, Cubs second baseman Ryne Sandberg suddenly retires walking away from $16 million. 'Ryno' will return to the Chicago line-up in 1996 to play for two more seasons before completing his 16-year Hall of Fame career.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-05-07/features/9505070405_1_ryne-sandberg-chicago-cubs-fans-quitting (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-05-07/features/9505070405_1_ryne-sandberg-chicago-cubs-fans-quitting)







Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on June 13, 2013, 06:52:13 pm
I wonder who Cindy is using as her sugar daddy these days.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on June 14, 2013, 05:30:33 pm
He should have kicked her to the curb for wearing that corncob dress...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on June 14, 2013, 06:46:39 pm
She is probably living with Steve Garvey's wife.

Of Pete Rose's wife.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: jacey1 on June 14, 2013, 10:09:09 pm
He should have kicked her to the curb for wearing that corncob dress...
Bahahahaha...that dress is hideous, isn't it? Dang, that thing was never in style....LOL LOL
LOL
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on June 19, 2013, 02:03:39 pm
Ryno looks to have put on 50 pounds since his playing days. 

Margaret must be a better cook than Cindy.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FDISK on June 19, 2013, 03:47:33 pm
I think I've put on 50 since Ryno's playing days. And it's not the cook in the house. The border collies only use the microwave.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on June 19, 2013, 03:49:40 pm
I've put on 50 this past week.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dihard on June 20, 2013, 04:58:58 pm
I just found a box of old newspaper clippings, scorecards, VineLines, programs, and photo calendars from roughly 1985-1992, heavy on the late 80's, particularly '89.  I'm going to recycle most of it, but figured I'd check here to see if anyone wants them.  If you cover shipping, I'd be happy to mail them out.  Let me know in the next day or two, though, or they'll be on their way to the recycling center.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on June 25, 2013, 10:07:20 am
June 25, 2007 -- A fan charged Bob Howry during the Cubs' 10-9 win over Colorado, after the reliever helped blow an 8-3 lead in the ninth inning. Howry gave up back-to-back RBI singles to Garrett Atkins and Brad Hawpe and a three-run homer to Troy Tulowitzki. The fan then jumped onto the field from the roof of the Rockies' dugout and made it a few feet from the mound before security guards tackled him. Howry earned the victory when Alfonso Soriano hit a game-ending two-run single in the bottom of the inning.


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Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on July 09, 2013, 09:31:49 am
Wrigley scoreboard clock, outfield walls could get ads

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-51db88ee/turbine/ct-met-aj-wrigley-field-scoreboard-jpg-20130708/580/580x327)

[/size]Wrigley Field’s scoreboard clock could get a “branded name in white letters” on it under a plan approved by the city Landmarks Commission. (Chris Walker, Chicago Tribune / July 20, 2012)


Quote
Another idea outlined in the program is for a "sign grown into bushes" in the area of center field where there are no bleacher seats. That section, known as the "batter's eye," features bushes used to provide a dark background to help batters see the pitches better.

And the program allows the team to put up mesh ads along the basket that lines the top of the outfield wall which prevents fans from falling onto the field and sometimes catches home run balls as outfielders stand below with their gloves outstretched.

The sign plan also calls for "rotating or permanent signage" along the brick walls in left field and right field. Green said that is a reference to the infield walls on the left and right field sides and there are no plans to alter the ivy-covered outfield walls.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-wrigley-field-signs-0709-20130709,0,4303451.story
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on July 09, 2013, 01:41:22 pm
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-wrigley-field-signs-0709-20130709,0,4303451.story

Ugh.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on July 09, 2013, 02:05:32 pm
As much as Wrigley is going to become commercialized after the renovations, I'm really wondering if we would have just been better off building a new park. 

Is Wrigley really going to have the same charm that it had with Jumbotrons, LED scoreboards, and Budweiser ads on the clock and scoreboard?  Is commercialed up Wrigley really preferable to having a new cash cow ballpark and just keeping the memories of pristine Wrigley?

I remember an article someone (Rob Neyer?) wrote about Tiger Stadium when it was falling apart and these preservation groups were trying to keep it up, even after it had been years since the Tigers had moved to their new park.  Sometimes you just need to let an old park go and let it have a dignified end.  Tiger Stadium definitely wasn't getting a dignified end while all these preservation groups and the city of Detroit were trying to figure out what to do with it.

I'm starting to wonder if Wrigley is really getting a dignified end if all we're going to do is prop up its usefulness by having all these new ads, displays, and the like.  In some ways, all these renovations feel like putting someone on life support when the right thing to do is just to let them go.  It might be better if we just had a new ballpark that's designed to be a real cash cow money maker and let Wrigley have a dignified end.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on July 09, 2013, 02:09:26 pm
Hope I'm wrong about that, though, and that new renovated Wrigley is going to be awesome.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on July 09, 2013, 02:12:59 pm
As much as Wrigley is going to become commercialized after the renovations, I'm really wondering if we would have just been better off building a new park.  Wrigley?

I'm starting to wonder if Wrigley is really getting a dignified end if all we're going to do is prop up its usefulness by having all these new ads, displays, and the like.  In some ways, all these renovations feel like putting someone on life support when the right thing to do is just to let them go.  It might be better if we just had a new ballpark that's designed to be a real cash cow money maker and let Wrigley had a dignified end.


I agree.  I could live with an ad above the scoreboard clock but the final straw for me would be placing ads on the outfield walls behind the baskets.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on July 09, 2013, 03:18:00 pm
Let's just go the way of Nascar and sell ad space on the uniforms.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on July 10, 2013, 09:48:14 am
Kamin: No time a good time for clock ad at Wrigley
Wrigley has features worth saving — and not be reworked in Fenway Park's image, architecture critic Blair Kamin writes


(http://www.trbimg.com/img-51dcb610/turbine/ct-met-aj-new-kamin-0710-jpg-20130709/580/580x232)

A rendering of proposed renovation for Wrigley Field includes a 6,000-square-foot video board in left field. The Cubs are also weighing the possibility of getting a sponsor for the center field scoreboard clock. (Chicago Cubs HANDOUT / April 29, 2013)

Quote
Here's my two-word take on the Cubs' move to stick an ad on the lovely circular clock atop Wrigley Field's iconic center field scoreboard:

No way.

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Planned lights atop the LED board would help to illuminate the outfield, which city officials say is the darkest in Major League Baseball during night games. But the lights, which city officials acknowledge would be taller than the center field scoreboard's clock, would be discordantly vertical amid the bleachers' horizontal sweep. Along with supposedly contextual steel arches atop the LED board, they would create visual clutter at odds with Wrigley's clean lines.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-wrigley-field-710-20130710,0,7976959.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-wrigley-field-710-20130710,0,7976959.story)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: jacey1 on July 10, 2013, 01:11:11 pm
I have no trouble renovating Wrigley. I grew up in the 70's attending several games a year there and loved it...i've attended games there since then, including night games and still loved it. These proposed changes will be new bells and whistles in a renovated park. I'll still love it. I don't think its a park past its time-if/when they build a new park, i am sure i will love it too, even tho it won't be Wrigley
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on July 11, 2013, 02:43:58 pm
Paul Sullivan ‏@PWSullivan     21m
Ten years ago today: Mark Prior flips over, lands on shoulder in baserunning collision with Marcus Giles. Stays in game.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on July 11, 2013, 04:22:31 pm
I still believe that was the start of all his arm/shoulder issues.  That and getting his elbow 'xploded by a Hawpe line drive.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on July 16, 2013, 09:28:29 am
If you ever wanted to know what Willie Mays looked like wearing Cubs gear, here you go.

(http://bit.ly/12wNmWV)

ESPN SweetSpot has an article up on All-Stars who got their helmets mixed up during the All-Star Game.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Cactus on August 01, 2013, 11:28:51 am
A Cubs/White Sox charity softball game that might be fun to watch

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/softball/

Former Cubs include Derek Lee, Gary Matthews, Jr, Brian McCrae, Lee Smith, Scott Eyre, Cliff Floyd, Jamie Moyer, Adam Greenberg, Bill Madlock, Jacque Jones, and Steve Trout.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on August 08, 2013, 12:56:14 pm
Nice!

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9550520/ernie-banks-dean-smith-get-presidential-medal-freedom-award
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on August 13, 2013, 06:26:17 pm


Five Chicago Cubs Who Were Supposed to Put the Team Over the Top

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/five-chicago-cubs-were-supposed-put-team-over-185700900.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/five-chicago-cubs-were-supposed-put-team-over-185700900.html)

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 13, 2013, 07:08:53 pm

Five Chicago Cubs Who Were Supposed to Put the Team Over the Top

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/five-chicago-cubs-were-supposed-put-team-over-185700900.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/five-chicago-cubs-were-supposed-put-team-over-185700900.html)


I don't recall anyone ever indicating they thought ANY of those five were going to "put the Cubs over the top."
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on August 13, 2013, 07:09:43 pm
It makes a good story though.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on August 13, 2013, 08:26:16 pm
I remember when Eddie Miksis  was going to put them over the top.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JeffH on August 13, 2013, 08:28:13 pm
Since the Cubs have traditionally been "near the bottom", it would take quite a bit to "put them over the top".
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on August 13, 2013, 08:35:01 pm
I remember when Ozzie Timmons, Robin Jennings, and Pedro Valdes were going to put them over the top.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on August 13, 2013, 08:56:19 pm
I thought the acquisition of Milton Bradley would be key.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on August 13, 2013, 09:11:21 pm
I thought the acquisition of Milton Bradley would be key.
Only you and Jimbo.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on August 13, 2013, 09:14:50 pm
Heady company.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on August 23, 2013, 03:01:40 pm
Not really Cubs history, but this is really cool to think about.

Quote
Sam Miller ‏@SamMillerBP 2m

Vin Scully called MLB games the same year that Connie Mack managed MLB games. Mack was born 10 weeks after the Emancipation Proclamation.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on August 23, 2013, 10:06:33 pm
JR , very cool
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on August 24, 2013, 01:40:30 pm
In 39 games for the Hanshin Tigers this year, Fukudome is hitting a robust .179.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on August 24, 2013, 02:08:17 pm
In 39 games for the Hanshin Tigers this year, Fukudome is hitting a robust .179.
That's only because it's an inferior league.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on August 24, 2013, 02:08:50 pm
It just occurred to me: is there ever any PED scandal in Japan?  I don't recall.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 28, 2013, 02:14:29 pm
We traded Nolasco, Mitre, and Pinto for one season of Juan Pierre.

Damn...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on August 28, 2013, 02:52:13 pm
It could have been worse, Dave.  It could have been two seasons.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on August 28, 2013, 02:57:49 pm
Nolasco is the only one who wound up hurting us, though, and really it didn't hurt us all that bad.  There aren't too many seasons I can think of where Nolasco would have made a real difference for us.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 28, 2013, 03:19:03 pm
Nolasco is the only one who wound up hurting us, though, and really it didn't hurt us all that bad.  There aren't too many seasons I can think of where Nolasco would have made a real difference for us.

Are there any seasons where Pierre did?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on September 22, 2013, 05:59:15 pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPRdb-1fDdk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPRdb-1fDdk)



Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on September 23, 2013, 05:17:20 pm
Speaking of painful memories, today is the 15th anniversary of the day Brant Brown dropped the fly ball.  I can still hear Ron Santo.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on October 09, 2013, 02:42:44 pm

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-52556b17/turbine/chi-the-cubs-andy-pafko-during-the-1948-season-20131009/525)

Andy Pafko dies, played in last Cubs World Series
5-time All-Star played in last Cubs World Series


By Mark Gonzales and Paul Sullivan Tribune reporter - 7:04 a.m. CDT, October 9, 2013


Former Cubs star Andy Pafko had a good bat, a memorable nickname and a reputation as one of the friendliest players in the game.

Pafko, 92, died Tuesday in a nursing home in Stevensville, Mich., the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported.

A popular five-time All-Star who played 17 seasons and appeared in 24 World Series games — including the Cubs' last visit to the Series in 1945 — Pafko had a lifetime .285 average with 213 home runs and 976 RBIs playing for the Cubs, Brooklyn Dodgers and Milwaukee Braves.

Nicknamed “Handy Andy'' for his versatility, Pafko said he never made more than $30,000 a year, but never complained about the money because he was all about the game.

“Andy was a gentleman's gentleman,” Blackhawks President John McDonough said. “You couldn't find a nicer guy, or someone who was completely unaffected by his success.”

McDonough met Pafko during his years as the Cubs marketing chief when Pafko was a retired player living in Mt. Prospect.

“He was baseball royalty at Wrigley Field, and when we would call him and invite him to the park to sing or to the Cubs Convention, he was so flattered that we had remembered him,” McDonough said. “He was a huge part of our history and lived a great life.”

read more:   http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-former-cub-pafko-dies-20131008,0,2079976.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-former-cub-pafko-dies-20131008,0,2079976.story)


Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on October 12, 2013, 04:34:04 pm
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-5259af6c/turbine/ct-spt-1013-cubs-bartman-chicago-20131013-001/600)

10 years later, Bartman remains enigma
Bartman 'bigger than those who have commercially exploited incident'



By Paul Sullivan, Chicago Tribune reporter - 3:19 p.m. CDT, October 12, 2013


As the 10-year anniversary of the most talked-about moment in Cubs history approaches, it turns out everyone was wrong all along.

Touching the famous foul ball in Game 6 of the 2003 National League Championship Series wasn't the worst thing to happen to Steve Bartman.

Having it auctioned for more than $113,000 and blown up on TV was worse, leading to bitter feelings between the world's most vilified Cubs fan and the head of a restaurant group bearing the name of the team's most beloved announcer.

After biting his lip for the last decade, Bartman spokesman Frank Murtha said they have had enough. They were never on board with the ball being blown up at Harry Caray's restaurant or with the subsequent promotions of Harry Caray's president and managing partner, Grant DePorter.

"We are no more fine with it now than we were then," Murtha said. "No one person has perpetuated the storyline more than (DePorter) did."

The Sphinx

By now the Bartman story is familiar to most baseball fans, and his name is known around the world.

With the Cubs five outs from advancing to their first World Series in 58 years, Bartman's deflection of a foul ball that Moises Alou may or may not have been able to catch preceded an eight-run eighth-inning Marlins rally that sent the series to Game 7. Bartman was abused and ridiculed, forced to leave the ballpark with security and blamed for the Cubs' blowing their big chance.

Murtha pointed to shortstop Alex Gonzalez's critical error, adding, "Don't forget, there was a Game 7, and some pitcher named Kerry Wood starting."

Wood blew an early lead in Game 7 to lose the series, and the Cubs have not won a playoff game since. Game 6 remains the closest they have come to a World Series since 1945, and their last championship was in 1908.

After enduring death threats and hate mail and becoming a household name, things have settled down for Bartman as the years marched on. Murtha said he has lived a relatively normal existence in the Chicago area since, with his family, friends and workplace fiercely protecting his privacy.

"Because of the kind of person he is, he has continued to live his life in a manner with the same moral fiber he had going into this incident," Murtha said.

"He continues to work. Has this incident posed challenges to him? Yes. Has he more than overcome them? Yes. But he has been bigger than those who have commercially exploited the incident."

Bartman has remained Sphinxlike, staying out of the public eye, ignoring interview requests and monetary offers and basically keeping a low profile, becoming the J.D. Salinger of sports fans. He never has spoken publicly about the events of Oct. 14, 2003, aside from issuing a written apology the next day, and last was quoted in any media outlet in 2005 while trying to get away from an ESPN the Magazine reporter who stalked and surprised Bartman in the parking garage of his workplace.

"Steve has no intention to personally speak about it," Murtha said. "When and if he did, it'd be under his terms and conditions."

Murtha said Bartman has turned down "hundreds of thousands of dollars" in inducements over the last decade, saying no to all offers and media requests, including TV's "Dr. Phil," who wanted to probe his psyche. Murtha, an attorney, said he is "aggressively moving on any attempt to commercially exploit the (Bartman) name," though that particular barn door has been open too long to shut now.

Bartman probably could have starred in a wacky Super Bowl commercial by now, perhaps selling headphones or turtlenecks or Snickers bars. The incident has inspired dozens of Bartmanesque references in modern culture, whether blatant or oblique.

•Two weeks after the playoff incident, actor Kevin James told Tribune columnist Terry Armour he was considering starring in a movie project called "Fan Interference." James said it would not specifically be about Bartman but conceded the incident was ripe for a movie: "I feel sorry for him, but to love a city so much and to love a team so much and to have one event completely change your life and now you're public enemy No. 1 is a great story." A movie, however, never has been made.

•A ripped-from-the-headlines "Law and Order" episode centered around an infamous "foul ball guy" who was discovered murdered before the opening credits. Murtha sent a letter to NBC chiding the network for putting that idea in viewers' heads.

•A "Family Guy" episode featured a 10-second non sequitur in which the Stewie character, sitting at a Cubs-Marlins game at Wrigley Field, convinces a turtleneck-wearing fan in headphones named "Steve" to try to make a catch. ("It's a foul ball. What harm could it do?")

•The creator of a PlayStation ad for "MLB 12: The Show" was forced to verify that a Bartman-like character sitting alone in his Chicago apartment celebrating a fictional Cubs championship actually was not Bartman. He admitted the ad's creators "kicked around the idea" of asking Bartman to appear in the commercial.

The fact that Bartman has refused to cash in has earned him some props from fans and players alike.

"In this day and age, he could've made tons of money doing things," said Marlins outfielder Juan Pierre, who was perched on second base during the play. "But he took the high road. Hopefully Chicago will embrace him again one day."

The Ball

While Murtha said DePorter isn't the only one to capitalize on Bartman's misery, he does blame him for exacerbating it. He understands Bartman still would be demonized without the ball being blown up but says it added another layer to the story.

"I knew it would always be part of something," he said. "I just didn't think it would have the life it has had."

The ones who have exploited Bartman the most, according to Murtha, are DePorter — who bought the ball, blew it up and displays the shreds in his restaurants — and ESPN.

The sports network created a show called "The Top Five Reasons You Can't Blame Steve Bartman for the Cubs 2003 Playoff Collapse" and featured an Alex Gibney documentary on the incident called "Catching Hell" for its "30 for 30" series.

The biggest problem Murtha had with the media company was "stalking" Bartman for an ESPN the Magazine article in 2005, then pretending it was in the name of exonerating him for the incident.

"It was like he had found Osama bin Laden," Murtha said. "All he did, he went to the address where 14 satellite trucks were parked for two weeks, then followed him to work, sat in the parking lot and jumped out of a bush."

But DePorter's role in the Bartman legacy is more problematic for Murtha.

It all began when an anonymous Chicago attorney known only as "Jim" nabbed the foul ball on the rebound and auctioned it one month later through Mastro Auctions, which folded in 2009 during an FBI probe of its activities.

Jim the attorney told the Tribune then it was "like found money" and would be used as a college fund for his not-yet-born child. DePorter wound up paying $113,824 for the ball, and he told Sun-Times columnist Michael Sneed he would blow it up so Cubs fans could "erase the most tangible symbol of that pain." Proceeds would go to Ron Santo's favorite charity, JDRF, and only "pro-Bartman" people could attend.

On the night of the explosion, in February 2004, DePorter told the Tribune "it's also time for all of us to move on." But Murtha argues DePorter did not move on even after the ball was blown up, contributing to the demonization of Bartman.

"The next spring, they sold spaghetti sauce made of the shards of the ball," Murtha said.

Murtha recalled the day DePorter called him and asked him to attend the ceremonies extinguishing the ball forever.

"As a promoter, a P.T. Barnum, he's Triple A," he said. "He gave me a pitch over the phone: 'Steve should come to the ceremony.' He said Ryne Sandberg wanted him to come, and Dutchie (Caray) and Ernie (Banks) wanted him to come. Then he said, 'Harry would want him to come.'

"I listen to enough of his blarney, and I say, 'OK, if Harry says he should come, he'll be there.' "

Murtha said there was a long pause. Harry Caray had been dead since 1998, as Murtha knew well.

"Finally (DePorter) asks, 'Well, how you gonna do that, Frank?' " Murtha said.

Murtha said he explained to DePorter that his father was buried close to Caray at All Saints Catholic Cemetery in Des Plaines.

"I know my dad and Harry talk all the time," he recalled saying. "So if Harry says to him, 'Steve should come,' he'll be there."

It was Murtha's sly way of saying: No chance.

Murtha believes DePorter has profited off Bartman's situation. DePorter told the New York Times in September 2004 that blowing up the ball helped increase revenue by about 20 percent, or $1.5 million: "And I attribute almost all of it to the ball, people clustering around the case to see it."

DePorter acknowledged that figure but said he had offered, through Murtha, to compensate Bartman.

"So far, Steve has not wanted any compensation," DePorter said.

Murtha said DePorter told him the ball explosion would be "the end for the ball and the end for Steve," but he pointed to the selling of the spaghetti sauce and a book as examples of the continued exploitation of Bartman's name.

"If I had a choice of having the ball blown up and buried, or hanging the shreds in a restaurant, I'd rather bury it," Murtha said. "And whatever they didn't blow up, they put in a spaghetti sauce and sold."

DePorter said he regretted not letting Bartman know about selling the spaghetti sauce. He said he has "respect" for Murtha, has contributed thousands in Bartman's name to JDRF and never has been anything but "supportive" of Bartman.

The Future

Will Bartman ever come out of the shadows?

DePorter believes it's time Bartman ends his self-imposed exile from Wrigley Field, saying fans and players would embrace him now.

"Maybe it's time for him to not be Greta Garbo and the 'mystery,' " he said. "Maybe it's time for him to get out there, go to a game with Ernie (Banks). He would find people want to support him because that's all I've ever heard."

Banks left a message on Murtha's phone Friday asking to set up a private meeting between him and Bartman. Murtha said he would relay the message and that Bartman has "all the respect in the world" for Banks.

Still, it's Bartman's choice to maintain his privacy, and that's what he will continue to do.

Murtha said the retelling of the incident has managed only to obscure the real story — namely, the incredible collapse of a baseball team that was on the cusp of the World Series.

"Distance has provided the media and fans cover for some lousy baseball, and that's what it was," Murtha said.

"Steve is still a baseball fan. On many occasions the Cubs organization has expressed there is no ill will toward him and has welcomed him to attend a game.

"He has no ill will toward the Cubs or toward baseball."

psullivan@tribune.com

Twitter @PWSullivan


http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-1013-cubs-bartman-chicago-20131013,0,1541659,full.story?dssReturn&z=60559 (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-1013-cubs-bartman-chicago-20131013,0,1541659,full.story?dssReturn&z=60559)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on October 13, 2013, 08:17:44 am
Thanks for posting that.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on October 14, 2013, 05:11:40 pm
10 years ago today, I was in a hotel room in Ogden, UT, watching the game alone.

That night, for a few seconds, I understood the urge people get when they jump off buildings, or completely trash hotel rooms. I was there.

I had never felt that before, and haven't since...not even when Calipari blew the end of the Memphis-Kansas game. It was a strange feeling.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on October 14, 2013, 06:08:44 pm
I think it was around the 5th inning when I finally let myself start to believe that the Cubs were really going to go to the world series.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on October 15, 2013, 06:41:17 am

Pretty clear in that picture that Bartman was NOT the only one reaching for that ball.  Alex Gonzalez booting an easy grounder and Baker's failure to come out and settle Prior down are the reasons the team came unglued.  Had nothing to do with Bartman whatsoever.





(http://www.trbimg.com/img-5259af6c/turbine/ct-spt-1013-cubs-bartman-chicago-20131013-001/600)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Clarkaddison on October 15, 2013, 12:04:39 pm
Bartman was at fault to a degree, but Baker, Gonzalez, the 3b umpire, and Farnsworth deserve much more of the blame. 

Baker for overworking Prior, especially keeping him in for 8 inning in a blowout win earlier in the series.  Also for not coming out to settle down Prior after the walk to Castillo, and not disputing the non fan interference call.  Either one would have given Prior and the Cubs a chance to regroup, and maybe stall the momentum of the Marlins.

Gonzalez for the error.

The 3b umpire for not calling fan interference.  I think Alou's rap as a lousy fielder came into play. 

Farnsworth for being a punching bag in relief of Prior.

Bartman (and the other guy reaching for the ball) were idiots, but also convenient scapegoats.  And that's my last goat reference. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on October 15, 2013, 01:02:29 pm
It was the Baseball Gods at work.  If the ball falls six inches in either direction, it's either clearly foul or a clear case of fan interference.  Because it fell exactly where it did, it was ambiguous enough to play out the way it did.  I'm not sure what Bartman ever did to earn the wrath of the Baseball Gods--reaching for that ball was the same thing something like half the fans present would have also done.   I feel for the poor bastard, and obviously there's a lot of blame to spread around (Gonzales, Dusty, Game 7), but that will be the Bartman Game forever and ever and ever.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on November 16, 2013, 05:29:33 pm
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2013/11/15/5107464/video-jim-maloney-1965-no-hitter-cubs?utm_source=sbnation&utm_medium=nextclicks&utm_campaign=articlebottom
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on November 20, 2013, 06:45:06 pm
Nice article on Ernie by Phil Rogers:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/chc/phil-rogers-ernie-banks-reached-pinnacle-of-baseball-without-a-plan?ymd=20131120&content_id=64067292&vkey=news_chc
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on November 20, 2013, 07:03:11 pm
Chicago has been blessed with athletes who were not only good players, but also good persons.  Walter Payton, Ron Santo, Billy Williams, Michael Jordan.

But the best of them all was Ernie Banks.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on November 29, 2013, 01:05:31 pm
The Phillies/Cubs 23-22 game from 1979 is on MLBN right now...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on November 29, 2013, 01:12:21 pm
in the 31,997th inning?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: brjones on December 04, 2013, 09:20:37 am
Joe Posnanski is counting down the top 100 players ever on his blog, and #98 is Ron Santo.

http://joeposnanski.com/joeblogs/98-ron-santo/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on December 07, 2013, 12:47:06 am

December 7, 2006 - The Chicago Cubs today selected outfielder Josh Hamilton from the Tampa Bay Devil Rays minor league system in the Major League portion of the Rule 5 Draft and traded him to the Cincinnati Reds in exchange for cash considerations.  Making it both one of the best Rule 5 Draft choices and one of the worst prospect sales in MLB history.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20061207&content_id=1753669&vkey=pr_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20061207&content_id=1753669&vkey=pr_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc)




Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on January 27, 2014, 10:52:29 pm
I wonder if there are any Cubs broadcasts on Youtube older than this that are in this good of shape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRCLrJOP2zM
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on January 27, 2014, 11:04:16 pm
Actually I think that's the last time the Cubs have been no-hit.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on January 27, 2014, 11:29:26 pm
I thought that the last time was against Koufax.  Did they have another no hitter that year?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on January 28, 2014, 12:30:49 am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwoAUg6MoVw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwoAUg6MoVw)




Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: jacey1 on January 28, 2014, 01:06:08 pm
The last time the Cubs were no hit was when Koufax did it at Chavez Ravine...1965???
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on January 28, 2014, 04:17:37 pm
I always love watching or listening to interviews of old guys talking about what happened when they played, or old announcers talk about when they were in the booth.  After watching the link AndyMacFAIL posted, I watched another video youtube recommended, an interview with former Cub radio announcer Vince Lloyd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE-iMwM6SaE&noredirect=1  In the interview Lloyd is talking about an exchange he had with Leo Durocher about who was going to start at SS one day when Leo was concerned Kessinger was not hitting enough to start  (it was Kessinger's first first full season, and Leo's first year with the Cubs).

While love the interviews like that, I also like looking at the records to check the memories....

Lloyd remembers Leo starting Roberto Pena at SS on opening day, and says Pena was a "kid (who) could hit, but had boards for hands."  According to Lloyd Pena made 3 errors that day and cost the Cubs the game, and that Leo then went with Kessinger the rest of the year, even though he really didn't want to.

The record.... well, it is a bit different.

Kessinger was the opening day SS, in a game the Cubs lost 1-0 to Marichal; Pena PH for the pitcher in the game, but never took the field.  http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN196604120.shtml In fact Pena only made one error for the Cubs all season in 1966 (he only had 17 AB in 6 games before he was sent down to the minors before the end of April in 1966) and that was his only year with the Cubs when Durocher was there.  In fact, in 1966, the only player the Cubs had who made more than 1 error at SS was Kessinger.

So might Lloyd have had the year and the player wrong, but still the story right?

Well, in 1967, the next season, the Cubs won on opening day, with Jenkins beating Bunning and with Kessinger starting at SS.  http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN196704110.shtml  Opening day 1968, the Cubs lost, but Kessinger started and played the whole game at SS, and while there were 3 errors in the game, leading to 3 unearned runs, the errors came from Santo, Kessinger and RFer Lou Johnson.  http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CIN/CIN196804100.shtml

And in 1969 the Cubs not only won on opening day, but Kessinger was a well entrenched starter, having made the All Star team in 1968 and repeating in 1969.

In other words, Lloyd, while I have no doubt he was accurately sharing his memory and telling the truth of what he remembered, was simply wrong.  And I like Lloyd... even if his memory was not the best in the world.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on January 28, 2014, 05:05:38 pm
He had the manager wrong...look at 1965...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on January 28, 2014, 05:16:11 pm
And even with the 3 E's, it was mostly Cubs pitching that cost them a W that day; they needed a 3-run HR from Banks in the bottom of the 9th to take the game to extras.

I assume the game ended in a tie, and was never completed...they apparently stopped play after 10, presumably due to darkness.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on January 28, 2014, 05:28:46 pm
He had the manager wrong...look at 1965...

So the wrong manager, the wrong outcome of the game, wrong on whether Kessinger returned to his role of starting SS the next day (Kessinger started the 1965 season in the minors and wasn't even called up until June, after having only 4 prior major league games in September of 1964), wrong on whether Kessinger had been the starting SS the season before, wrong on whether Pena (at 29) was a "kid," and was wrong on whether Pena was someone who could hit (his best major league season was an OPS+ of 84).  But other than that, I guess he got it right.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on January 28, 2014, 05:50:57 pm
As was mentioned above, Pena had three errors on opening day.  I remember reading the papers at the time (I was stationed in Glasgow, Montana), and being impressed that after that game, he had a higher batting average (750) than fielding average.  He was 3 for 4 in that game if I remember right.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on February 03, 2014, 07:03:55 pm
Gerry Fraley (@gfraley)
2/3/14 6:07 PM
Jon Leicester comeback saga continues with 7 scoreless for Dominican vs. Cuba. Leicester has 19 straight scoreless innings in post-season.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on February 06, 2014, 04:51:09 pm
He didn't spend too long with the Cubs, but this seems appropriate to put here.

Hall of Fame slugger, broadcaster Kiner dies

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/10414280/new-york-mets-icon-ralph-kiner-died-age-91
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on February 06, 2014, 10:41:23 pm
The last time the Cubs were no hit was when Koufax did it at Chavez Ravine...1965???

I was there!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on February 15, 2014, 01:16:01 am
Today in Baseball History - February 15th


Fifty years ago today......


(http://tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/61/61-550Fr.jpg)    (http://tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/61/61-550Bk.jpg)


February 15, 1964 - Chicago Cubs second baseman Ken Hubbs, twenty-two, is found dead in his private plane which crashed on February 13, 1964, near Provo, Utah, while en route to Colton, California. As a rookie in 1962, Hubbs had played in 78 consecutive games without making an error.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hubbske01.shtml (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hubbske01.shtml)

http://www.kenhubbs.com/ (http://www.kenhubbs.com/)



Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on March 07, 2014, 10:40:55 am
From a story at ESPN discussing the greatest pitcher of all time, re: Lefty Grove...

Another thing to consider: Grove didn't reach the majors until he was 25 years old. He pitched five seasons for the Baltimore Orioles of the International League, going 108-36 before owner Jack Dunn finally sold him to the Athletics for $100,600 -- the Athletics outbidding the Cubs and Dodgers to make Grove the most expensive sale ever at the time.

Lefty Grove pitched from 1925-1941, going 300-141, winning 9 ERA titles and leading the league in WAR 8 times. The Cubs played in 4 World Series during that time, losing all 4 (obviously).

I imagine having Grove in the rotation would have made a huge difference.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: grrrrlacher on March 27, 2014, 04:43:20 pm
So this SN writer did all time lineups for every team and ranked them.  Can you spot the glaring omission on the Cubs team?  I guess they just looked at the most opening day starts for a player on that team.

http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2014-03-26/opening-day-2014-yankees-red-sox-giants-dates-times-schedule/

C Gabby Hartnett-12
1B Mark Grace-12
2B Ryne Sandberg-13
3B Ron Santo-13
SS Shawon Dunston-11
LF Billy Williams-10
CF Andy Pafko-7
RF Sammy Sosa-12
P Fergie Jenkins-7
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on March 27, 2014, 05:10:29 pm
That's exactly what they did, and Ernie was obviously split between SS and 1B just enough to keep him off either position.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on May 13, 2014, 08:44:08 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2060691-mitch-wild-thing-williams-tossed-from-10-year-old-sons-baseball-game?hpt=hp_t2
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DUSTY on May 13, 2014, 11:17:22 am
I cant stand to even hear him talk.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on May 13, 2014, 11:38:58 am
Williams?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DUSTY on May 13, 2014, 05:24:14 pm
Yeah.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on May 14, 2014, 02:10:17 pm
36th Anniversary today of Tommy Lasorda's "Kingman Performance" rant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIwrYH6Urbs
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on May 14, 2014, 03:10:16 pm
timeless...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 19, 2014, 09:20:44 pm
Sold at auction a couple of days ago for $2,091:



1926 Chicago Cubs Letter Suspending Grover Cleveland Alexander for Drunkenness....

1926 Chicago Cubs Letter Suspending Grover Cleveland Alexander for Drunkenness. Unsigned typed letter unwittingly set the stage for one of the most memorable events of the 1926 baseball season, as the star pitcher's affinity for alcohol ultimately inspired the Cubs to put Alexander on waivers. He was picked up by the St. Louis Cardinals, for whom he would deliver a reportedly alcohol-fueled strike out of Tony Lazzeri in a key Game Seven moment of the 1926 World Series. The unsigned letter from new manager Joe McCarthy reads, "Dear Sir:- This is to officially advise you that you have this day been indefinately (sic) suspended without pay for violating rules of training, drunkenness and not appearing in uniform. Secretary Seyes has been advised to furnish you transportation back to Chicago." Letterhead from the Cubs' hotel in Philadelphia exhibits original mailing folds but not problems.

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/ChiN/AlexanderSuspend_zpsee02b663.jpg)




Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on May 21, 2014, 01:11:47 pm
Two boys arrested, accused of putting poison in teacher's water bottle
By Laura Ly, CNN
updated 12:18 PM EDT, Wed May 21, 2014
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

    The fourth-graders, ages 9 and 12, may have used rat poison, police say
    The teacher felt nauseated, was treated by her doctor and is now in good condition
    Attempted assault, reckless endangerment, criminal possession of a weapon alleged

New York (CNN) -- Two New York City fourth-graders were arrested Tuesday after allegedly putting poison in a teacher's water bottle, police said.

The two boys, ages 9 and 12, allegedly poisoned the teacher's water Monday afternoon, causing her to feel nauseated the next day. She was treated by her doctor and is now in good condition, said Sgt. John Buthorn of the New York City Police Department.

A 12 year old 4th grader?  3rd grade must have been the best 4 years of his life.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 13, 2014, 12:20:09 am
(posted just so I could use the photo of Cindy Sandberg in her corn cob dress)

----------





Today in Cubs History - June 13th

Twenty years ago today.........


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ipNiKLqepdA/Tmu8BFy986I/AAAAAAAAMdM/zBO3b2Oz8o0/s1600/Corncob%2Bdress.JPG)

June 13, 1994 - At the age of 34, Cubs second baseman Ryne Sandberg suddenly retires walking away from $16 million. 'Ryno' will return to the Chicago line-up in 1996 to play for two more seasons before completing his 16-year Hall of Fame career.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-05-07/features/9505070405_1_ryne-sandberg-chicago-cubs-fans-quitting (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-05-07/features/9505070405_1_ryne-sandberg-chicago-cubs-fans-quitting)


Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on June 23, 2014, 03:21:05 pm
Today is the 30th anniversary of The Sandberg Game.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/48842/thirty-years-ago-the-sandberg-game
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 02, 2014, 12:31:47 am
This Date In MLB History - July 2nd


(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/07/02/sports/02sandomir02_650.jpg)

(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/64/64-50Fr.jpg) (http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/55/55-399Fr.jpg)

(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/47/47-564Fr.jpg)

(http://www.triumphbooks.com/filebin/fullsize_s11/TheGreatestGameEverPitched_300.jpg)

July 2, 1963 - In one of baseball's most memorable pitching duels, San Francisco Giants' Juan Marichal hurls 16 scoreless innings and his counterpart the Milwaukee Braves' Warren Spahn pitches 15 1/3 scoreless innings before Willie Mays ends the marathon with a walk-off homer off Spahnie in the bottom of the 16th giving San Francisco the win.

Marichal's manager, Alvin Dark, visited the mound in the 9th, 10th, 11th, 13th, and 14th innings, and was talked out of removing Marichal each time. During the 14th-inning visit, Marichal told Dark, "Do you see that man pitching for the other side? Do you know that man is 42 years old? I'm only 25. If that man is on the mound, nobody is going to take me out of here." Marichal ended up throwing 227 pitches in the complete game 1-0 win, while Spahn threw 201 in the loss, allowing nine hits and one walk. Hall of Famer Carl Hubbell, who was in attendance that night, said of Spahn, "He ought to will his body to medical science."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/02/sports/baseball/02nohit.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/02/sports/baseball/02nohit.html)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/06/28/kaplan.spahn.marichal/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/06/28/kaplan.spahn.marichal/index.html)

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1963/B07020SFN1963.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1963/B07020SFN1963.htm)

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 02, 2014, 07:33:40 am
Did you know that Spahn also gave up Willie Mays' first hit?  Also a home run.  The Giants were so impressed with Spahn that they traded for him for their 1965 stretch run.  He retired from the Giants.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on July 02, 2014, 10:53:42 am
Did you know that Spahn also gave up Willie Mays' first hit?  Also a home run.  The Giants were so impressed with Spahn that they traded for him for their 1965 stretch run.  He retired from the Giants.

Close, but not quite.  Spahn started the 1965 season with the Mets/  The Mets cut him on July 17th, and the Giants signed him two days later.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on July 29, 2014, 10:48:20 pm
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/the-dying-cubs-fans-last-request-steve-goodman-baseballs-greatest-hit-072914

If the author's last name rings a bell, well...it should...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on July 30, 2014, 07:33:35 am
?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 02, 2014, 10:59:23 pm
SABR has apparently determined that Heinie Zimmerman actually won the Triple Crown in 1912.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on August 19, 2014, 12:25:12 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRCLrJOP2zM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRCLrJOP2zM)

Jack Brickhouse & Lloyd Pettit with the WGN-TV call


August  19, 1965 - Reds pitcher Jim Maloney's second no-hit effort of 1965 is another 0-0 duel through nine innings, until Reds shortstop Leo Cardenas homers off the left field foul pole in the tenth at Wrigley Field. Jim Maloney's sets a no-hit record by allowing ten walks. He also fans twelve in Cincinnati's 1-0 win. Earlier in the season the Fresno native had also no-hit the Mets for ten innings, but lost the game in the eleventh when Johnny Lewis homered.

boxscore & P-B-P:  http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1965/B08191CHN1965.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1965/B08191CHN1965.htm)


Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: wmljohn on August 22, 2014, 09:06:25 am
Cubs History...

(http://sabr.org/sites/default/files/images/VillanuevaHector.preview.jpg)


Hector Villanueva 'nuff said.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 22, 2014, 09:47:01 am
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/villahe01.shtml

Everyone here should pick a former Cub and sponsor his page...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on August 22, 2014, 12:07:07 pm
What does it mean to sponsor a page?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on August 22, 2014, 12:09:54 pm
Send me your debit card number and your PIN and I'll take care of it for you.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on August 22, 2014, 12:52:32 pm
I sponsored Dwight Smith.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on August 22, 2014, 01:19:01 pm
Dibs on Joe Kmak!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on August 22, 2014, 01:48:04 pm
Anyone want to start a pool to raise the $815 needed for Greg Maddux?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/maddugr01.shtml
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on August 22, 2014, 02:44:06 pm
Kerry Wood was $115.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 22, 2014, 02:45:25 pm
Nice! Dwight Smith was one of my favorites!

Met him (and Jerome Walton as well) at a card show the winter after the '89 season...still have their autographed pics hanging in my home office...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 22, 2014, 02:46:09 pm
What does it mean to sponsor a page?

Dave, look at Hector's page...you'll see where it is sponsored...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 22, 2014, 02:49:04 pm
Rick Monday is $45.

Mark Prior is $75.

Luis Valbuena is $105. King of the bat flip!

Rod Beck is only $25. Bargain for Shooter!

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 22, 2014, 04:16:47 pm
What does it mean to sponsor a page?

It means you send them money for the right to have your name listed on the page.... showing that you were foolish enough to send them money.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 22, 2014, 06:06:35 pm
So, helping sponsor a site makes one a fool, according to jes...

There must be some way I can put this to good use...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on August 22, 2014, 07:02:19 pm
Part of the attitude that makes him so beloved around here (and elsewhere, I'm sure).
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 22, 2014, 09:29:38 pm
So, helping sponsor a site makes one a fool, according to jes...

There must be some way I can put this to good use...

Part of the attitude that makes him so beloved around here (and elsewhere, I'm sure).

I do notice that neither of you have offered any other response to davep's question, that neither of you have even suggested that sponsoring a page does anything OTHER than make you look like a fool.

Does it also give you some access to additional statistical secrets not otherwise available at the site?

Does it give you any role in shaping or changing the content of the site?

Does it give you access to any additional functions offered by baseball-reference.com, such as an ability to sort or organize the data in different ways?

Or does it merely show you were foolish enough to send them some money to have your name listed there to let the world know you sent them some money just to have your name listed there?

I will readily accept that there might be some advertising value to sponsoring a page... for those individuals or businesses which might benefit from the advertising, but I don't think most of the folks who post here would come remotely close to meeting that description.

So, I ask again, other than making a sponsor look a bit like a sap who simply wanted to give his money away, what is it that sponsoring a page does?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 22, 2014, 09:33:19 pm
It would make much more sense to send Theo a check, payable to the Cubs' with a request that he spend it on scouting, or for signing a FA.

And I don't think I would jump on idea, either.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on August 22, 2014, 09:53:25 pm

I didn't see any sponsorship info until I turned off the AdBlock Plus for baseball-reference.



You can sponsor the Tuffy Rhodes page for $20:  http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rhodeka01.shtml (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rhodeka01.shtml)

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 22, 2014, 10:26:17 pm
It would make much more sense to send Theo a check, payable to the Cubs' with a request that he spend it on scouting, or for signing a FA.

And I don't think I would jump on that idea, either.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: jacey1 on August 25, 2014, 01:09:04 pm
So, helping sponsor a site makes one a fool, according to jes...

There must be some way I can put this to good use...
Just don't ask him to represent you in a court of law......HE CANT!!!! He was disbarred
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on August 25, 2014, 01:43:26 pm
Quote
So, I ask again, other than making a sponsor look a bit like a sap who simply wanted to give his money away, what is it that sponsoring a page does?

I'm going to make an exception to my Policy on Responding to Jes's Posts, which is "Don't, because life it too short to argue with someone who clearly likes to argue."

1)  I use baseballreference.com to look stuff up.  I value their service and work.  Yes, it is free, and I wouldn't have to pay them anything, but I think that by throwing them a bit of money it will allow them to keep doing what they're doing.  Or make the site better.  Or maybe make their lives a bit better, and I don't mind funding a bit of that since they provide a service I enjoy.

2)  Yes, I used my money, but the sponsorship says "sponsored by Bleacher Bums Forum."  Like Dave said, maybe it will bring in some fresh posters.  It's always nice when a new, thoughtful voice (like CBJ) comes aboard to replace posters no longer among us (bleacherboy, GoBlue, weatherguy) and help dilute your asinine posts.

/exception.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on August 25, 2014, 01:48:01 pm
Well regardless if this is wasted money or not, here's the latest contribution to the BBF Global Outreach Campaign for 2014.  Surprisingly, this cost less than renewing Shawon Dunston's page last year.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/baezja01.shtml
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on August 25, 2014, 01:50:11 pm
By the way, I second what DMF said.  Great website and we get the word out about our wonderful chat board. 

At least it's wonderful when CurtOne is on vacation, anyway.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on August 25, 2014, 01:59:58 pm
When CurtOne goes on vacation BigBadBanana signs in
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 25, 2014, 02:07:37 pm
What DMF said...exactly...

Nice one, JR!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 25, 2014, 03:28:45 pm
Just don't ask him to represent you in a court of law......HE CANT!!!! He was disbarred

Neither you nor Dave23 would ever need to have worried.

As an attorney in private practice, I got to turn down clients I did not want to represent.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 25, 2014, 03:35:14 pm
1)  I use baseballreference.com to look stuff up.  I value their service and work.  Yes, it is free, and I wouldn't have to pay them anything, but I think that by throwing them a bit of money it will allow them to keep doing what they're doing.  Or make the site better.  Or maybe make their lives a bit better, and I don't mind funding a bit of that since they provide a service I enjoy.

2)  Yes, I used my money, but the sponsorship says "sponsored by Bleacher Bums Forum."  Like Dave said, maybe it will bring in some fresh posters.  It's always nice when a new, thoughtful voice (like CBJ) comes aboard to replace posters no longer among us (bleacherboy, GoBlue, weatherguy) and help dilute your asinine posts.

While those are actually decent reasons, the first can be accomplished more easily simply by sending them money, and the second would do much, much more if you also included a link and mentioned something as to who or what the Bleacher Bums Forum is.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on September 12, 2014, 07:24:34 pm
The Jorge Soler page at Baseball Reference is at the low price of $30 if anyone wants to jump on that one.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/solerjo01.shtml
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on September 19, 2014, 09:19:59 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/21/sports/baseball/as-cubs-slowly-rebuild-theres-shouting-from-the-rooftops.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumSmallMedia&module=second-column-region%C2%AEion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on September 19, 2014, 10:12:22 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/21/sports/baseball/as-cubs-slowly-rebuild-theres-shouting-from-the-rooftops.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumSmallMedia&module=second-column-region%C2%AEion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1


the Rickettses purchased the Cubs for $845 million, using assets from a family education trust he offhandedly described as “money we weren’t paying much attention to.”

$845M FROM a family education trust fund.... What were they planning to do, buy a university?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on November 07, 2014, 12:20:03 am
Today in Cubs History - November 7th

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-1386286977/turbine/chi-7rent-20131205/480)

November 7, 2013 - Rick Renteria becomes the Cubs' 53rd manager in franchise history, the fourth in the last five years, when he signs a three-year contract with two club option years with the last-place team that finished the season with 96 losses. Chicago’s new 51 year-old skipper has spent the last three seasons as Buddy Black's bench coach for in San Diego.


Happy Anniversary Ricky

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on November 07, 2014, 06:18:34 am
We barely knew ye.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: wmljohn on November 07, 2014, 09:12:50 am
I wonder how many managers have lasted less than one year.  Not including interem managers.  I am talking about when the team signs them to multi year contracts and expect them to be around for at least 3 years.  Has to be a very small list.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on November 28, 2014, 01:48:30 am
@jcrasnick: Such a sad story on former MLB coach Wendell Kim.   http://t.co/LTNtQ5h0AI
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on November 28, 2014, 06:57:53 am
That is sad.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on November 29, 2014, 08:57:18 pm
Damn shame
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: brjones on January 23, 2015, 09:47:53 pm
Ernie Banks has passed away at 83. 


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/01/23/breaking-ernie-banks-mr-cub-has-died/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on January 23, 2015, 09:55:53 pm
 :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on January 23, 2015, 09:56:40 pm
Truly a great baseball player and a greater human being.  May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Eastcoastfan on January 23, 2015, 10:12:28 pm
Oh no!  My first sports hero ....
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Slick26 on January 23, 2015, 10:24:44 pm
RIP Mr Cub. Best role model ever. Today's players could learn a lot from his example
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on January 23, 2015, 10:27:14 pm
Today's Americans could learn a lot from his example.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DUSTY on January 23, 2015, 10:27:29 pm
Harry Caray, Santo, and now Ernie Banks...

Smh...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on January 23, 2015, 10:30:26 pm
Thank God I was there for this . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wLvyWE0HrA
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on January 23, 2015, 10:32:32 pm
RIP Ernie . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6z_6uGo63E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6z_6uGo63E)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on January 23, 2015, 10:41:23 pm
RIP Mr. Cub.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on January 23, 2015, 10:46:05 pm
The 2015 Cubs better damn well do it for Ernie.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: brjones on January 23, 2015, 11:05:58 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8FxkoDCAAAOv00.jpg)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: buff on January 23, 2015, 11:17:11 pm
Iam speechless. What a great player and even a better person.  RIP Mr Cub.  You will be missed.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on January 23, 2015, 11:23:36 pm
The Cubs will become the second MLB team to honor a former player with a uniform patch in 2015.  The Cardinals will have #18 on their jerseys for Oscar Taveras.

The Cubs host the Cards for the home opener on Sunday, April 5.  I'd now prefer that game to be on WGN with Len and JD instead of ESPN.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on January 23, 2015, 11:50:17 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCqIVTrgOX0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCqIVTrgOX0)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on January 23, 2015, 11:51:30 pm
Sad to see him go.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on January 23, 2015, 11:54:40 pm
(http://www.sportsspeakers360.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/ernie-banks-freedom-medal-award.jpg)

R.I.P.  Ernie Banks (1931-2015)


http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/23/ernie-banks-one-of-baseballs-greatest-players-and-greatest-ambassadors-has-died-at-age-83/ (http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/23/ernie-banks-one-of-baseballs-greatest-players-and-greatest-ambassadors-has-died-at-age-83/)

------------------------------------------------



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GQy3c3Hutg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWD9w5PyzCM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXVUmemkPXI



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZnCETksd_M


---------------------------------------------------



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zT68sF6AMs



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_tfPILCP-4

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on January 24, 2015, 12:14:55 am
A darned shame that he never got to see the Cubs win it all.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DUSTY on January 24, 2015, 12:32:45 am
I always thought the same about Ron Santo.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CUBluejays on January 24, 2015, 12:33:25 am
Santo, Harry and Ernie will be smiling down on Wrigley soon.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: buff on January 24, 2015, 12:41:53 am
Man I really wanted to see him in that parade when it happens.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on January 24, 2015, 02:25:37 am
So did I.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: ben on January 24, 2015, 08:04:37 am
What a player!  What a man! 

Somewhere, Ernie will be looking down and watching the Cubs...with the fathers and grandfathers of many of us on this board.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on January 24, 2015, 09:00:18 am
Nah, he's spent the past 40+ years watching...

He's in uniform, ready for today's games...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on January 24, 2015, 10:44:48 am
I'm sure this has been posted before, but it seems appropriate:

https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=AwrTcdW8y8NU7FoAq64nnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTB0ZWVkYm84BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1lIUzAwMl8x?p=steve+goodman+a+dying+cub+fan%27s+last+request&tnr=21&vid=74B9EDAA7FA9B24E7EC574B9EDAA7FA9B24E7EC5&l=375&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DUN.608040874178905190%26pid%3D15.1&sigi=11r8qoaqc&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D7xBxZGQ1dJk&sigr=11bd9jti6&tt=b&tit=Steve+Goodman%3A+A+Dying+Cubs+Fan%26%2339%3Bs+Last+Request&sigt=11i6pj094&back=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fyhs%2Fsearch%3Fp%3Dsteve%2Bgoodmans%2Ba%2Bdying%2Bcub%2Bfan%2527s%2Blast%2Brequest%26ei%3DUTF-8%26hsimp%3Dyhs-001%26hspart%3Dmozilla&sigb=13rp2p2bh&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: shasson on January 24, 2015, 10:55:15 am
My late father cursed me by handing down the gene for being a Cubs' fan, but he blessed me by sharing his favorite player with me, Ernie. Has there ever been a more genuinely sweet guy than Ernie Banks?

It's fantastic that the memories being expressed are all about the man, as they should be. But, lest we forget: "...1959 when he led the NL with 143 RBIs and hit 43 home runs. Defensively, he led all shortstops with a .985 fielding percentage. In 1960 he won a Gold Glove at shortstop. He hit more than 40 homers five times, including 47 in 1958. In 1955 he hit a record five grand slams."
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JeffH on January 24, 2015, 10:57:21 am
I'm at fantasy camp and, to honor Ernie, the flag will be flown at half mast for today's game at Sloan Park between the campers and the coaches.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on January 24, 2015, 11:39:33 am
So very sad to lose Ernie... I saw him back in '54 on my first trip to Wrigley as wide-eyed 8 year old along with a childhood buddy and his dad...I became a lifelong Ernie/Cubs fan to this very day...shed some tears reflecting on the joys of following Ernie's career and how much his love of the Cubs, Wrigley Field , the fans and life made him a rare treasure in my life and others.RIP Mr Cub.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Eastcoastfan on January 24, 2015, 12:33:16 pm
Saw "Selma" last night (thought it was fantastic) and came home to the news.  He is all the more remarkable for the hateful world in which he grew up.  Check out this video about one minute in; it is an interview with Ernie from 1955.  Incredible that this painfully shy and quiet man would become the ebullient Ernie Banks.  Shows (to me at least) the smothering effect of what it must have been like to grow up in the places and times that he did, and to experience playing in a segregated league.  That time sometimes seems so far away, but the fact that Ernie was with us until yesterday reminds us that it really was not so long ago.

Again, the relevant portion of the clip is just shy of a minute into this segment.  Astonishing (to me) that this was Ernie Banks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQL-F61pg78
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on January 24, 2015, 02:19:52 pm
As mentioned before, Chicago has been blessed with several heroic sports figures that were not only outstanding athletes, but also outstanding human beings.  Ernie Banks, Walter Payton, Ron Santo, Mike Singeltary, Billy Williams, Ryne Sandberg, the list goes on and on.  Most sports figures are not someone you can look up to when they leave the field.

By the way, Kerry Wood seems to be following in their footsteps.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on January 24, 2015, 03:21:12 pm
Why do you include Sandberg in that group?  The question is not meant to be provocative, it's just that I'm not familiar with his off the field contributions.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on January 24, 2015, 04:18:52 pm
As far as I can tell, Sandberg seems to be an honest, hard working family man who fits in with the others I have mentioned.  Naturally there is a spectrum, and I don't mean to equate him with Banks or Payton.  But he is certainly far from the Durochers, Rodmans, Sosas and Doug Adkins of the sports world.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DUSTY on January 24, 2015, 05:15:34 pm
Im not trying to sound special or anything but Ive been around Ryno a lot and he has a sense of cockiness about him but he's very approachable and cordial and once he gets to know you he's pretty friendly.

He is reserved in a way though.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: ben on January 24, 2015, 05:49:05 pm
Well said, Eastcoastfan! 

I'm looking forward to seeing Selma...sure glad the times and attitudes have changed!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: shasson on January 24, 2015, 06:20:44 pm
Not surprisingly, Joe Posnanski with a great column about Ernie (with a special focus on Ernie's role as the Cubs' first African-American player):

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/24/joe-posnanski-remembering-mr-cub-ernie-banks/related/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on January 24, 2015, 06:35:06 pm
August 31, 1953 - Gene Baker became the first African American player to make the Cubs 25 man roster.

September 8, 1953 - The Cubs purchased the contract of Ernie Banks from Kansas City Monarchs of the Negro Leagues for $35,000.

September 17, 1953 - Ernie Banks made his debut

September 20, 1953 - Gene Baker took the field for the first time. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: StrikeZone on January 24, 2015, 11:31:13 pm
Michael Wilbon on Ernie Banks:

http://tinyurl.com/qxa2gb5 (http://tinyurl.com/qxa2gb5)


Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Eastcoastfan on January 24, 2015, 11:48:20 pm
Thanks, Ben.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on January 25, 2015, 07:50:46 am
Michael Wilbon on Ernie Banks:

http://tinyurl.com/qxa2gb5 (http://tinyurl.com/qxa2gb5)

All idols have feet of clay.

Ernie Banks always appeared to have very small feet.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on January 25, 2015, 11:23:54 am
I have always been told that size doesn't matter.

I'm not sure why they went out of their way to tell me that.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on January 26, 2015, 02:18:29 pm
Read this in Peter King's column today:

Quote
I love the idea that’s gaining steam in Chicago: The Cubs, as a rightful tribute to Banks, should schedule a single-admission doubleheader once every year. Call it “Let’s Play Two Day.” What do you say, Theo Epstein?

Seems unlikely that the team would be willing to give up that much revenue, but I like the sentiment.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on January 26, 2015, 02:33:20 pm
I think there should be a day each summer for all of MLB to do this, much like everyone wears 42 one day each season.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on January 26, 2015, 03:57:51 pm
A double header would cost the Cubs more than 2 million per year in lost revenue.  I would hope they wouldn't do that.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on January 26, 2015, 04:18:59 pm
A day-night doubleheader starting at 11:00 am with the nightcap set at 7:30 wouldn't cost them that unless the first game went 22 innings or something ridiculous like that.  If every team did that on one day, like the 4th of July, only one team would not play.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on January 26, 2015, 04:39:43 pm
Sorry.  I didn't know that a day-night double header would be acceptable.  I think that would be a great idea and would not cost most teams anything extra.  It might be against the labor agreement, however.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on January 26, 2015, 04:57:25 pm
eh, who cares about Unions?  Paper tigers.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on January 28, 2015, 12:04:19 pm
Re-watching the 23-22 game from 1979...

This game featured 3 different pitchers who, later in their careers, would record the last out of a World Series.

Who were they?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on January 29, 2015, 01:08:58 pm
I learned a few things about PK Wrigley from this article:

http://m.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/107543344/phil-rogers-ernie-banks-philip-wrigley-formed-relationship-to-remember
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on January 29, 2015, 03:29:35 pm
Good guesses, but no one got it...

The answer was: Willie Hernandez, Tug McGraw, Bruce Sutter
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on January 29, 2015, 03:39:32 pm
I couldn't even think of one.  Great question.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on January 29, 2015, 03:59:19 pm
I got 'em all.  I was just too humble to post.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: FITS on January 30, 2015, 07:48:44 am
Harry at the gate might be a bit of a stretch.  :D


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8JQFnaCcAAf5_5.jpg)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on February 03, 2015, 01:15:49 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/watch-rare-footage-of-the-cubs-playing-at-wrigley-field-in-1938-182329608.html

Check out the sign on Waveland 26 seconds in.  What's with that?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on February 03, 2015, 01:41:42 pm
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You'll also notice also the clear look at a sign on the building at the corner of Waveland & Kenmore that says "RICKETTS." That was advertising a restaurant that was on Clark Street about a mile south of Wrigley Field from the 1920s through the mid-1960s. Here's a photo essay I did on that sign back in 2009.

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2015/2/3/7971303/cubs-baseball-wrigley-1938 (http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2015/2/3/7971303/cubs-baseball-wrigley-1938)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on February 03, 2015, 01:59:25 pm
Thanks for the link.  What an odd coincidence.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on February 15, 2015, 08:05:26 pm
For those of you who haven't seen or heard, Wendell Kim was waved home today.

RIP, Wavin' Wendell...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on February 16, 2015, 10:37:16 am
There's a dispute between Ernie Banks' estranged wife and the caretaker/executor of his estate on what to do with his remains.  Sad.

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-82816504/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on February 16, 2015, 10:39:32 am
What's sad is that Ernie was very specific.  Nobody should overrule that.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on February 16, 2015, 10:54:48 am
Any estate lawyer out there?  Does the executor of the will have the right to determine how the body is disposed, (if the will does not specify that) or can the next of kin (assuming the next of kin is not the executor) have the right to determine that?

A similar issue came up over the disposition of the remains of Ted Williams, although cremation wasn't the issue.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on February 17, 2015, 05:09:01 pm
What's sad is that Ernie was very specific.  Nobody should overrule that.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/chi-ernie-banks-remains-20150213-story.html
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A document titled "Last Will and Testament" and signed by Ernie Banks on Oct. 17 of last year says he was "in the process of finalizing divorce" from his wife and that he had appointed Rice as the executor of his will. Nowhere does Banks discuss what he wants done with his remains.

Where was he very specific?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on February 17, 2015, 05:54:48 pm
Since he did not specify what should happen to his remains, who gets to make the decision, the executor of his will or his next of kin, if different people?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on February 17, 2015, 06:00:53 pm
The funeral director is not making any comments, alluding to the fact that he will only speak to the judge.  Others in the Banks family and Cubs family have been quoted as his arrangement with the funeral home was cremation and his ashes to Wrigley.   My wife and I just redid our wills the other day.  There is nothing in the will about dispensing with our human shells.  Many times wills are not read and seldom probated until after the funeral.  That's why we have our final wishes as to disposal set with our funeral director...in writing, and witnessed.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on February 17, 2015, 06:03:29 pm
Now that you mention it, I do remember Banks saying that he wanted his ashes spread on the infield of Wrigley Field.  I am not sure that that is legally binding, but I hope that is what the do.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on February 17, 2015, 06:25:21 pm
I have arranged for my corpse to be taken by Ford pickup to Florida and dumped on your lawn.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on February 17, 2015, 06:44:01 pm
I have arranged for my corpse to be taken by Ford pickup to Florida and dumped on your lawn.
lol...an alternative to a pink flamingo, bird bath, lawn jockey... ;D
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on February 17, 2015, 07:05:03 pm
I have arranged for my corpse to be taken by Ford pickup to Florida and dumped on your lawn.

Great.  We can use the fertilizer.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on February 17, 2015, 07:10:08 pm
Now that you mention it, I do remember Banks saying that he wanted his ashes spread on the infield of Wrigley Field.  I am not sure that that is legally binding, but I hope that is what the do.

It isn't, though in the absence of any express direction for what should be done, it would not be surprising for a court to consider that statement as an expression of his intent.

Since he did not specify what should happen to his remains, who gets to make the decision, the executor of his will or his next of kin, if different people?

The law can vary from state to state.  I have no idea what the law is in Illinois.

The funeral director is not making any comments, alluding to the fact that he will only speak to the judge.

Generally, and that would appear to include this case, when someone is not making any comments, they are not alluding to anything.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on February 24, 2015, 04:53:24 pm
Information today that Ernie Banks' total assets at death valued at $16,000.  That's it.

Banks' highest salary was $60,000 in 1969. According to BLS CPI inflation calculator, that amounts to $387,000 in 2014 dollars.

He earned  barely over 1/2 million total in his career: $680,500, according to BR. 

Think Marvin Miller was just a little late for Ernie's financial security.   
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: jacey1 on February 25, 2015, 01:07:30 pm
that $16K figure is not an accurate figure
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on February 25, 2015, 01:14:03 pm
They rounded it off.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on February 25, 2015, 01:15:01 pm
that $16K figure is not an accurate figure

Have any idea what is?

That's pretty amazing if that's true.  You'd think even after his playing career that some of the endorsement deals and some of the personal services contracts he's probably gotten from the Cubs would have paid him a decent amount of money.

I guess a few divorces and less than good money management can do that to someone, though.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: jacey1 on February 25, 2015, 01:18:00 pm
the figure apparently is an estimate given by the caregiver....i find it awfully hard to believe that he was that **** ass poor...the caregiver is not being truthful i'm afraid....
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on February 25, 2015, 01:21:38 pm
the figure apparently is an estimate given by the caregiver....i find it awfully hard to believe that he was that **** ass poor...the caregiver is not being truthful i'm afraid....

Yeah I just got through reading a brief story about that.  The caretaker is apparently the executor and the sole inheritor of his estate. 

Just sad all around. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: jacey1 on February 25, 2015, 01:28:05 pm
i just find it very tough to believe his estate was so low-i understand and would not be surprised if it was a figure that many of us would think would be low, but $16K just is tooooooo low. she is not being totally truthful IMO.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on February 25, 2015, 01:31:07 pm
By the way, don't ever let a caretaker play any kind of role in your or one of your family member's estate planning, no matter how well they treat you or your family member.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on February 25, 2015, 03:10:34 pm
By the way, don't ever let a caretaker play any kind of role in your or one of your family member's estate planning, no matter how well they treat you or your family member.

Historically it was not at all uncommon for an elderly person or couple, particularly those with a home but of relatively modest means, to make a straightforward transaction -- in exchange for the promise of care right thru the time of death, the care provider was given room and board and the lionshare of the estate, generally the home where the person was being cared for.

Those getting care in such an arrangement generally knew perfectly well what they were doing, were making perfectly rational decisions, and came out reasonably well in the bargain.  There is no reason to believe any similiar arrangement today would necessarily be any less favorable for either side than it was in past years.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on February 25, 2015, 07:37:31 pm
But those doing the above, must do so through a written agreement.  I doubt the courts would accept the housekeeper's word alone that such an agreement existed.  Especially if the caretaker received a reasonable salary while completing her duties.  In addition, the courts would usually listen to arguments of undue influence on the part of the carekeeper.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on February 25, 2015, 07:42:23 pm
But those doing the above, must do so through a written agreement.  I doubt the courts would accept the housekeeper's word alone that such an agreement existed.  Especially if the caretaker received a reasonable salary while completing her duties.  In addition, the courts would usually listen to arguments of undue influence on the part of the carekeeper.

Forgive me for thinking that should have been apparent.  Certainly all of that is true.  It is also true that in relying on a written agreement that both sides should be represented by independent, competent, licensed counsel, and, to save Jacey the time, that "licensed" part would obviously rule me out.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on March 06, 2015, 10:46:44 pm
(https://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/ernie-banks1.jpg?w=625)

Funeral home wants $35,000 it spent on Ernie Banks' funeral

(http://l.yimg.com/os/152/2012/04/21/image001-png_162613.png) By Dan Babwin - 12 hours ago

CHICAGO (AP) — The funeral home that handled services for Chicago Cubs great Ernie Banks has jumped into the legal battle over the estate of the Hall of Famer with a claim for more than $35,000 it says it has not been paid.

The claim by Donnellan Family Funeral Services was filed Wednesday. It comes amid a legal challenge by Banks' widow, Elizabeth Banks, of a will Banks signed in October — without her knowledge, she contends — that leaves all his assets to longtime caregiver Regina Rice and nothing to her or Banks' children.

Last month, after Rice's attorney said a preliminary estimate showed Banks had assets worth just $16,000, a probate judge gave Rice 30 days to provide a full accounting of the estate.

read more:  http://sports.yahoo.com/news/funeral-home-wants-35-000-spent-ernie-banks-150726262--spt.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/funeral-home-wants-35-000-spent-ernie-banks-150726262--spt.html)

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UPDATE:


Cubs to pay funeral home for Ernie Banks' services

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-ernie-banks-funeral-20150306-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-ernie-banks-funeral-20150306-story.html)



Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on March 07, 2015, 08:53:48 pm
Sad to see this happening
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on March 11, 2015, 10:18:12 am
Heinie Zimmermann has been retroactively awarded the 1912 Triple Crown in the NL.

http://www.sports-reference.com/blog/2015/03/heine-zimmerman-1912-triple-crown/

That's one to file away for a future FITS trivia question.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on March 11, 2015, 12:52:17 pm
Heinie Zimmermann
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on March 11, 2015, 03:23:08 pm
Heinie Zimmermann has been retroactively awarded the 1912 Triple Crown in the NL.

http://www.sports-reference.com/blog/2015/03/heine-zimmerman-1912-triple-crown/

Don't tell Ron about him.  Started at 2B, then spent two years at 3B, then went back to 2B.  That sort of thing just doesn't happen.  Ron has told us.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on March 11, 2015, 03:37:04 pm
Here's a list of all the Triple Crown winners in baseball history.  Besides two players from the 1800's and Miguel Cabrera, Zimmermann is now the only batting Triple Crown winner not in the Hall of Fame.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/triple_crowns.shtml

Perhaps he'd be a good candidate for the Veterans Committee one of these days.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on March 11, 2015, 04:41:11 pm
Don't tell Ron about him.  Started at 2B, then spent two years at 3B, then went back to 2B.  That sort of thing just doesn't happen.  Ron has told us.

Ron likely has you on ignore, so I doubt he'll ever see this, but I think you mean Reb...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on March 11, 2015, 05:23:36 pm
Ron likely has you on ignore, so I doubt he'll ever see this, but I think you mean Reb...

You are correct as to which poster I meant.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on March 24, 2015, 04:57:21 pm
Not Cubs history, but I have been thinking about the coincidence that Minnie Minoso died such a short time after Ernie Banks.  for those not old enough to remember, or not familiar with White Sox history, Minnie was almost as beloved by the Sox fans as Ernie was with the Cubs fans.

Like Ernie, he was an interesting personality.  Totally likable, with seldom a word said against him.  Every year he would hold off on signing his contract, finally signing a few days before spring training for the original offer.  He just didn't like spring training (and obviously didn't need it).  During that time (perhaps under Veeck) the Sox had a gimmick where they purchased a tiny car (smaller than a volkswagen.  Perhaps an Isetta) that they used to drive in the relief pitcher to the mound.  One year Minoso demanded (and received) the car, which was several years old, in lieu of a raise.

At one time he held the record for the oldest player to get a hit in the major leagues.  He may still have it.

Naturally, as a nine year old cubs fan, I hated him.

He, like Banks, was a truly good man.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on March 24, 2015, 05:00:20 pm
I've noticed that almost every day a friend or hero or celebrity dies.  Suckscto get hold.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AZSteve on March 25, 2015, 09:55:29 am
I've noticed that almost every day a friend or hero or celebrity dies.  Suckscto get hold.

 :-\
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on April 11, 2015, 01:18:36 pm
I thought I would post this tribute to Ernie, written by a high school friend of mine:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/26/sports/baseball/a-star-who-found-joy-in-baseball-and-reflected-it-every-day.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region%C2%AEion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on May 01, 2015, 03:08:07 pm
In case you were wondering who the youngest Cub to hit a HR was...Addison Russell isn't even close...

 http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/murphda04.shtml

His page is only $5, too...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on May 19, 2015, 05:44:32 pm

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-555a5062/turbine/chi-ernie-banks-regina-rice-photo-20150331/600/600x338)


Caretaker claims Ernie Banks gave her rights to his name, likeness

By Jason Meisner - Chicago Tribune - May 18,2015, 6:10 PM

Just months before he died in January of a heart attack, Cubs great Ernie Banks purportedly transferred the potentially lucrative rights to his name and likeness to a private trust controlled by his longtime caregiver, according to recently filed documents in the ongoing battle over Banks' estate.

The filing by lawyers for Banks' estranged wife provides a glimpse into the largely behind-the-scenes wrangling over the slugger's assets that has played out since the bombshell revelation that Banks had cut his family out of a will signed in October and left everything to his caregiver, Regina Rice.

In a court-ordered report on Banks' assets made public Monday for the first time, Rice said Banks signed over the rights to his name and likeness to a private trust that legally is not part of the estate and that she controls. He also transferred a joint Bank of America checking account he shared with Rice to the same trust.

Banks also was in debt to the Internal Revenue Service at the time of his death, paying off about $75,000 in back taxes, the report revealed.

Rice, who has described herself as a "trusted confidant" to Banks, said the Hall of Famer gave her several gifts, including his Babe Ruth "Sultan of Swat" Award, a replica Ernie Banks statue, his 2010 "Living Legend" ring and his late mother's scrapbook, court records show.

Rice also revealed that she has possession of 112 autographed items Banks had given to her to sell on her website, http://www.erniebanks.net, or donate to charity. The items include jerseys, photos, baseball bats, bobbleheads, a pair of his golf shoes and autographed bottles of Banks' namesake "512" chardonnay wine, according to court records.

In the latest filing, attorneys for Banks' estranged wife, Elizabeth Ellzey Banks, asked Probate Court Judge James Riley to turn over bank records for the trust as well as further documentation on the website's sales and the gifts given to her by Banks.

Rice's attorney, Linda Chatman, has so far refused to turn over any bank records, writing in an email last month that Banks' wife was "not entitled to these documents or information," court records show. The website and "all of the items sold" belonged to Rice and were also exempt from the estate, she wrote.

"(The website) is not a part of Ernie Banks' estate and you are not entitled to the requested information and documents," Chatman wrote.

A status hearing on the estate is set for next week.

The battle over Banks' posthumous wishes began soon after he died Jan. 23 at age 83. Control of his estate initially was awarded to his fourth wife, who went to probate court Jan. 28 claiming Banks had died without a will. In such cases, an immediate family member is typically named executor.

But days later, Rice, 56, filed a petition disclosing the existence of a will signed Oct. 28 at an attorney's office in Lombard. The document directed that all assets be given to a trust controlled by Rice and stated that Banks was "making no provisions" for his wife and children, "not for a lack of love and affection for them and for reasons best known by them."

In a public statement, Banks' twin sons accused Rice of taking advantage of their ailing father and coercing him into signing the will.

n a statement Rice issued in February, she said Banks had been part of her life for 12 years and that the record will "dispel any iota of concern regarding my relationship with Ernie and his trust in me to carry out his wishes."

Last month, Rice filed her first inventory of Banks' personal property with the court that consisted mostly of items from Banks' rented Trump Tower condo as well as storage containers in Chicago and California.

The list included Banks' original Negro League contract from 1950, his Hall of Fame ring and autographed baseballs from Bill and Hillary Clinton. Other big-ticket items included a Rolex watch, the ring commemorating Banks' induction into the Hall of Fame in 1977 and the Presidential Medal of Freedom awarded by President Barack Obama in 2013.

Meanwhile, lawyers who represented Banks in the divorce proceedings — ongoing at the time of his death — have filed claims with the estate to collect legal fees. Attorney Jeffery Leving, who was retained by Banks in May 2012, filed a bill for $27,550 for work his firm did. That's on top of a $27,400 bill previously submitted by the firm Grund & Leavitt, which took over the case in November 2013, court records show.

Even the attorney for Banks' wife, Barry Greenburg, has asked to be paid from the estate, claiming in a recent filing that she depended on her husband for income. Greenburg's bill comes to $11,950, records show.

jmeisner@tribpub.com

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-ernie-banks-estate-fight-0519-met-20150518-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-ernie-banks-estate-fight-0519-met-20150518-story.html)

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on May 19, 2015, 06:05:25 pm
Oh, that is going to be ugly.  In addition to the claim already being made of undue influence in getting Banks to execute his will and also (apparently, though the reporting is unclear on the issue) that the girlfriend used undue influence in getting him to execute the trust document, it is almost certain that the widow will challenge the transfer of property to the trust because such property was a marital asset and therefore subject to distribution in the divorce which was already going on.  On thing this means is that it is a near certainty the girlfriend will be required to cough up a complete list of what she sold and what she did with the proceeds.  Then there is the entire question of waste of marital assets by Banks, spending marital assets for the benefit not of the marriage but the benefit of the girlfriend.

The case is going to get ugly, and considering the emotions likely involved it is not likely to settle.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on May 30, 2015, 07:54:22 pm
Apparently Lennie Merullo, the oldest living Cub, passed away earlier today at the age of 98...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on May 30, 2015, 08:12:23 pm
Too bad.  They had him on a year or so ago, and he was an interesting interview.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: BearHit on May 30, 2015, 08:43:44 pm
SRV finally inducted into Rock-n-Roll HOF - God bless ACL
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 04, 2015, 12:08:44 am
This Date In MLB History - June 4th


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June 4, 1974 - On ten-cent beer night, the Indians forfeit to the Rangers due the Tribe's unruly fans as the game is called off in the bottom of the ninth with scored tied at five by home plate ump, Nestor Chylak. An estimated 60,000 cups of brew is sold to a crowd of 25,134.

Boxscore & P-B-P:  http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1974/B06040CLE1974.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1974/B06040CLE1974.htm)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=beernight/080604 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=beernight/080604)



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Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on June 04, 2015, 11:39:05 am
30 years ago today, the Cubs drafted Drew Hall in the first round at 1.4.

They had planned to draft a local catcher (don't remember his name) who was from the Chicago Suburbs, and were so certain of it that they invited the kid, along with all his family, to be in the Cubs offices when the pick was announced.  When Hall fell to number 4, they selected him, and left the kid and his family high and dry with reporters all around.

Can you imagine the uproar in this day and age of internet fan input.

As I remember, the kid was traded to the Cubs a few years later, but never made it to the big leagues.

And Hall was not worth the pick.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on June 04, 2015, 11:44:38 am
Erik Pappas.

Cubs selected Greg Maddux in round 2.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on June 04, 2015, 11:49:09 am
Pappas was drafted 5 minutes later with the 6th pick.

He played in majors, mostly with Cards---but also briefly with Cubs.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 13, 2015, 12:19:19 am

(posted just so I could use the photo of Cindy Sandberg in her corn cob dress)

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Today in Cubs History - June 13th


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ipNiKLqepdA/Tmu8BFy986I/AAAAAAAAMdM/zBO3b2Oz8o0/s1600/Corncob%2Bdress.JPG)

June 13, 1994 - At the age of 34, Cubs second baseman Ryne Sandberg suddenly retires walking away from $16 million. 'Ryno' will return to the Chicago line-up in 1996 to play for two more seasons before completing his 16-year Hall of Fame career.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-05-07/features/9505070405_1_ryne-sandberg-chicago-cubs-fans-quitting (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-05-07/features/9505070405_1_ryne-sandberg-chicago-cubs-fans-quitting)

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: grrrrlacher on June 26, 2015, 10:33:46 am
I don't know if any of you have this app, but in the QuizUp app you can select Chicago Cubs as the topic and answer questions on the Cubs against someone else.  Pretty fun and my sons pointed it out to me. They were trying to answer Blackhawks trivia.  That was harder for me.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 30, 2015, 07:00:55 am

Three years ago today......




(http://www.vivelohoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Soler-523x348.jpg)


June 30, 2012 - The Chicago Cubs signed Jorge Soler as a non-drafted free agent.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 02, 2015, 12:08:09 am
This Date In MLB History - July 2nd


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July 2, 1963 - In one of baseball's most memorable pitching duels, San Francisco Giants' Juan Marichal hurls 16 scoreless innings and his counterpart the Milwaukee Braves' Warren Spahn pitches 15 1/3 scoreless innings before Willie Mays ends the marathon with a walk-off homer off Spahnie in the bottom of the 16th giving San Francisco the win.

Marichal's manager, Alvin Dark, visited the mound in the 9th, 10th, 11th, 13th, and 14th innings, and was talked out of removing Marichal each time. During the 14th-inning visit, Marichal told Dark, "Do you see that man pitching for the other side? Do you know that man is 42 years old? I'm only 25. If that man is on the mound, nobody is going to take me out of here." Marichal ended up throwing 227 pitches in the complete game 1-0 win, while Spahn threw 201 in the loss, allowing nine hits and one walk. Hall of Famer Carl Hubbell, who was in attendance that night, said of Spahn, "He ought to will his body to medical science."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/02/sports/baseball/02nohit.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/02/sports/baseball/02nohit.html)

http://www.si.com/more-sports/2011/07/01/kaplan-spahnmarichal (http://www.si.com/more-sports/2011/07/01/kaplan-spahnmarichal)

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1963/B07020SFN1963.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1963/B07020SFN1963.htm)

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 02, 2015, 06:52:06 am
I watched that entire game.  One of the great games of my youth.  Of course, it was 1-0 so it was boring.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 09, 2015, 02:39:01 pm
Randy Wells has taken a job as baseball coach at Altoff High School in Belleville, IL.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on July 10, 2015, 03:31:56 pm
In case anyone has an extra $160K or so around.... http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20150708/BLOGS04/150709850/another-rare-ernie-banks-jersey-hits-the-auction-block
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: EightyTwo on July 17, 2015, 03:02:48 pm
I'm trying to find when this game was that my brother and I remember.  I believe it was against the Astros.  The Cubs hit three home runs on three consecutive pitches.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 17, 2015, 03:28:36 pm
It was June 27, 1988, at 2:15 am.  You were dreaming.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on July 17, 2015, 05:21:45 pm
How long ago?

1977 — The Chicago Cubs hit seven home runs in beating the San Diego Padres 23-6 at Wrigley Field. Larry Biittner, Jerry Morales and Bobby Murcer hit consecutive home runs in the fifth for the Cubs.

Could that have been it?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on July 17, 2015, 06:47:00 pm
See 2001 entry.

http://www.nationalpastime.com/site/index.php?fact_day=29&fact_month=09&action=baseball_team_search&baseball_team=Chicago%20Cubs
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: EightyTwo on July 17, 2015, 06:55:30 pm
That's it.  Thanks, Reb.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 29, 2015, 12:14:01 am

This Date In Chicago Cubs History - July 29th


(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/11674/11674-MKAFr.jpg)

(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/1594/1594-112Fr.jpg)

July 29, 1998 - It was a small move at the time that would turn out to have major implications. White Sox G.M. Ron Schueler shipped inconsistent relief pitcher Matt Karchner to the Cubs for former #1 draft pick, pitcher Jon Garland. It took time, but Garland finally realized his potential in the 2005 season where he helped lead the club to the World Series title with 18 wins and an All-Star appearance.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: grrrrlacher on August 18, 2015, 10:01:09 am
So I was pulling up baseball reference.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHC/

And it surprised me that Zambrano is listed as a top 20 Cubs all time WAR.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on August 26, 2015, 12:01:28 pm
Reuschel for the Hall of Fame?  Check this out, excerpted from:  http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2011/2/28/2019517/using-trammell-and-reuschel-to-explain-war

"Pitcher WAR is a bit more of a mystery to us mere mortals. Let’s give it a whirl anyway with Rick Resuchel as our sample. Why Mr. Reuschel? Because now that Bert Blyleven is in the Hall of Fame, Reuschel has the distinction of having the highest career WAR among eligible non-Hall of Famers. That took me by surprise and I'm sure I'm not alone. So, let's see what makes it so.

Reuschel was a big workhorse who threw over 3500 innings in his career. He won 210 games and lost 187 with just a .528 winning percentage. He posted a 3.37 ERA for his career, which gave him a 114 ERA+ (14% better than average). He was very good at avoiding home runs, allowing just 221 (0.6 per nine innings). In other words, he is 67th all time in innings pitched but just 156th all time in home runs.

Stat geeks love pitchers who don’t allow home runs. The FIP (Fielding Independent Pitching) methodology states that pitchers have complete control over just three in-game outcomes—the walk, the strikeout, and the home run. Everything else leaves a pitcher leaning on his defense to get the job done.

The fact is some pitchers play in front of better defenses than others. Over his carer, Reuschel allowed 1494 runs (total runs, not just earned runs). According to WAR, during his career his defense was worth –66 runs. It is much better to use total runs and then give the pitcher back what the defense actually cost him than to use earned runs. A run is only unearned if there is an error involved—and we all know that a fielder can’t make an error on a ball that he’s too slow to even reach.

Reuschel’s Runs expected for replacement level is 2106 runs. In other words, a replacement level pitcher who threw the same number of innings as Reuschel, against the same opponents as Reuschel, in the same ballparks as Resuchel, in the same league as Reuschel, in the same game situations as Reuschel (by spending the vast majority of his career as a starter, Reuschel’s leverage index was 1.1), and with the same defensive support as Reuschel would give up 612 runs more than Reuschel did.

Running that number through the wins converter brings us to 66.3 WAR, which is an exceptional total. That actually puts him in the Top 30 all time for pitchers. Some things just are not captured in ERA."

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 26, 2015, 06:41:16 pm
Reuschel for the Hall of Fame?  Check this out, excerpted from:  http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2011/2/28/2019517/using-trammell-and-reuschel-to-explain-war

"Pitcher WAR is a bit more of a mystery to us mere mortals. Let’s give it a whirl anyway with Rick Resuchel as our sample. Why Mr. Reuschel? Because now that Bert Blyleven is in the Hall of Fame, Reuschel has the distinction of having the highest career WAR among eligible non-Hall of Famers. That took me by surprise and I'm sure I'm not alone. So, let's see what makes it so.

Reuschel was a big workhorse who threw over 3500 innings in his career. He won 210 games and lost 187 with just a .528 winning percentage. He posted a 3.37 ERA for his career, which gave him a 114 ERA+ (14% better than average). He was very good at avoiding home runs, allowing just 221 (0.6 per nine innings). In other words, he is 67th all time in innings pitched but just 156th all time in home runs.

Stat geeks love pitchers who don’t allow home runs. The FIP (Fielding Independent Pitching) methodology states that pitchers have complete control over just three in-game outcomes—the walk, the strikeout, and the home run. Everything else leaves a pitcher leaning on his defense to get the job done.

The fact is some pitchers play in front of better defenses than others. Over his carer, Reuschel allowed 1494 runs (total runs, not just earned runs). According to WAR, during his career his defense was worth –66 runs. It is much better to use total runs and then give the pitcher back what the defense actually cost him than to use earned runs. A run is only unearned if there is an error involved—and we all know that a fielder can’t make an error on a ball that he’s too slow to even reach.

Reuschel’s Runs expected for replacement level is 2106 runs. In other words, a replacement level pitcher who threw the same number of innings as Reuschel, against the same opponents as Reuschel, in the same ballparks as Resuchel, in the same league as Reuschel, in the same game situations as Reuschel (by spending the vast majority of his career as a starter, Reuschel’s leverage index was 1.1), and with the same defensive support as Reuschel would give up 612 runs more than Reuschel did.

Running that number through the wins converter brings us to 66.3 WAR, which is an exceptional total. That actually puts him in the Top 30 all time for pitchers. Some things just are not captured in ERA."



I'm persuaded.

Of course, as someone who already appreciated Reuschel, it didn't take much.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on September 06, 2015, 02:31:45 pm
Wrigley has quite a collection of Cubs 1Bmen in the house today...Rizzo in the dugout, Grace in the other dugout, DLee in the seats.

I will always wonder how a guy can win the Gold Glove at 1B, win the Silver Slugger at 1B, and lose the NL MVP to another 1Bman...makes little sense to me...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 06, 2015, 03:38:36 pm
Wrigley has quite a collection of Cubs 1Bmen in the house today...Rizzo in the dugout, Grace in the other dugout, DLee in the seats.

I will always wonder how a guy can win the Gold Glove at 1B, win the Silver Slugger at 1B, and lose the NL MVP to another 1Bman...makes little sense to me...
Today is D Lee's 40th birthday.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 20, 2015, 10:06:38 am
This Day In Cubstory

2009 – Cubs suspended Milton Bradley for the remainder of the season.

2008 – The Cubs won the National League Central Division title with a 5-4 victory over the Cardinals at Wrigley Field. Jim Edmonds caught the last out in a game that was started by Ted Lilly and saved by Kerry Wood. It was the Cubs second division title in two seasons, and marked the first time since 1906-08 the Cubs went to the post-season in consecutive years.

1972 – Milt Pappas won his 200th game with a 6-2 complete game victory over the Expos at Wrigley Field. Pappas became the first pitcher to reach 200 victories without a 20-win season.

1953 – Ernie Banks hit the first home run of his career off Gerry Staley in the eighth inning, but the Cubs lost 11-6 to the Cardinals at Busch Stadium.

1953 – Gene Baker made his Major League Debut, joining his double play partner, shortstop Ernie Banks. Banks and Baker played together with the Kansas City Monarchs.

1932 – The Cubs clinched the National League Pennant with a 5-2 victory over the Pirates at Wrigley Field. Guy Bush pitched a complete game for his 19th victory of the season. Kiki Cuyler delivered a bases clearing triple in the seventh inning.

1932 – Billy Herman collected his 200th hit of the season in the Cubs 5-2 victory over the Pirates.

1924 – Grover Cleveland Alexander won his 300th game in a 7-3 victory in 12 innings over the Giants in New York.

1882 – Larry Corcoran pitched his second no-hitter, a 5-0 victory over Worchester at Lakefront Park.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on October 24, 2015, 02:28:39 am
Some of you have seen this from 1984---wild and hilarious rhubarb over homer fair/foul call. Vintage Zimmer and a half-hour delay until things sorted out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qAhzFOBKrE8

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on November 11, 2015, 10:17:56 am
Rizzo award

http://m.orioles.mlb.com/news/article/157031576?partnerId=ed-9860831-848961453
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on December 10, 2015, 08:01:50 am
With Starlin Castro gone to the Yankees, which current player has been with the Cubs the longest?

Answer in a few minutes.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JeffH on December 10, 2015, 08:04:42 am
Travis Wood?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on December 10, 2015, 08:18:02 am
Starlin Castro made his Cubs debut May 7, 2010 in Cincinnati.

Anthony Rizzo was traded to the Cubs on January 6, 2012 but did not make his Cubs debut until June 26, 2012. 

Travis Wood came to the Cubs in a trade on December 23, 2011.  He was called up from Iowa on May 18, 2012 so he is the longest serving Cub.

Kudos to Jeff.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on December 10, 2015, 12:26:32 pm
This is one for Tuffy:

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/159302852/greatest-players-for-each-uniform-number-mlb?partnerId=ed-9931165-658620023
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on December 10, 2015, 01:21:07 pm
Jeffry Antigua has been in Cubs organization since 2007. Does he count?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on December 16, 2015, 04:43:06 pm
Former Cubs farmhand RP Lincoln Holdzkom was killed in a car crash this past Sunday in California. He was 33.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on January 01, 2016, 01:07:33 pm
This day: Davep born in 74 B.C.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on January 01, 2016, 09:07:11 pm
A natural mistake, but it is 74 A. C. (After CurtOne).
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on January 06, 2016, 11:08:49 am
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/starlin-castro-cubs-yankees/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on January 06, 2016, 11:56:37 am
That was pretty impressive.  Thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on January 06, 2016, 11:57:27 am
His agent's assistant certainly has a way with words...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on February 08, 2016, 10:57:48 am
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/homer-history--dave-kingman-nearly-hits-one-out-of-chicago-234651819.html
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on March 21, 2016, 04:04:44 pm
1984 Cubs/Padres Game 1 is on ESPN Classic right now...man, these guys were great!

Sut! Sarge!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on March 21, 2016, 05:03:22 pm
I stayed home from school that day to watch the game.  So worth it.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on April 19, 2016, 03:59:45 pm
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/former-cubs-pitcher-milt-pappas-dies-age-76-204320960--mlb.html
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on April 19, 2016, 04:35:43 pm
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/former-cubs-pitcher-milt-pappas-dies-age-76-204320960--mlb.html


Will Bruce Froemming be a pallbearer?

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 25, 2016, 07:04:40 pm
Forty years ago today -- http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/25/40-years-ago-today-rick-monday-stopped-dodgers-fans-from-burning-the-american-flag-video (http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/25/40-years-ago-today-rick-monday-stopped-dodgers-fans-from-burning-the-american-flag-video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrV8QPQAhxo
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: VJ on May 19, 2016, 07:19:09 am
Shades of Mitch Williams

heh, couldn't resist.  start at the 38:00 minute mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InNEbCM49Zo
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on May 19, 2016, 11:15:27 am
Cub pitcher Rick Sutcliffe, on Mitch Williams: "I pitch like I'm sitting in an easy chair, and he pitches like his hair's on fire."
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on June 13, 2016, 12:17:54 am

(posted just so I could use the photo of Cindy Sandberg in her corn cob dress)

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Today in Cubs History - June 13th


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ipNiKLqepdA/Tmu8BFy986I/AAAAAAAAMdM/zBO3b2Oz8o0/s1600/Corncob%2Bdress.JPG)

June 13, 1994 - At the age of 34, Cubs second baseman Ryne Sandberg suddenly retires walking away from $16 million. 'Ryno' will return to the Chicago line-up in 1996 to play for two more seasons before completing his 16-year Hall of Fame career.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-05-07/features/9505070405_1_ryne-sandberg-chicago-cubs-fans-quitting (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-05-07/features/9505070405_1_ryne-sandberg-chicago-cubs-fans-quitting)

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on June 22, 2016, 08:37:16 pm
Not sure if this has ever been mentioned here...former Cubs prospect Ryan Harvey is now a big time slow pitch softball player...

http://youtu.be/U2tdXHPO8h0
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: OkieCubsFan on June 22, 2016, 09:36:14 pm
Not sure if this has ever been mentioned here...former Cubs prospect Ryan Harvey is now a big time slow pitch softball player...

http://youtu.be/U2tdXHPO8h0

Glad to see him doing something with his life.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on June 22, 2016, 10:27:45 pm
Actually that's a very old video of Oneri Fleita working out Harvey just before the draft that year.

The guy is crushing hard stuff like a masher! No wonder he was drafted so high.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on June 22, 2016, 10:39:35 pm
Is that the guy that does Family Feud?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: dallen7908 on June 23, 2016, 07:07:55 am
I remembered 47-22 yesterday morning when I saw the standings and found this article ... I also listened to the victory that led to a 47-22 record and vividly remember Lou Boudreau's "kiss 0.500 goodbye" exclamation.  It seemed an odd statement at the time - I mean who worries about 0.500 when one is young and is following a team that is 25 games in the clear.


http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2013/1/20/3861208/cubs-history-game-july-28-1977
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on June 23, 2016, 11:36:48 am
I remembered 47-22 yesterday morning when I saw the standings and found this article ... I also listened to the victory that led to a 47-22 record and vividly remember Lou Boudreau's "kiss 0.500 goodbye" exclamation.  It seemed an odd statement at the time - I mean who worries about 0.500 when one is young and is following a team that is 25 games in the clear.
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2013/1/20/3861208/cubs-history-game-july-28-1977

I remember that 1977 game against the Reds, and calling my dad to discuss it either right afterwards or even in the middle of it to make sure he had the radio on (not something there was really any question about).  It was one heck of a game.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on June 26, 2016, 11:48:58 pm
Just saw that Jim Hickman passed away yesterday...he was 79...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on June 27, 2016, 06:16:36 am
Just saw that Jim Hickman passed away yesterday...he was 79...

One of the best examples possible of an entirely unrepresentative career year  coming late in his career.  Also a great example of a team's willingness to tolerate defensive limitations when enough hitting offsets it.  A big part of the 1969 team, and an even bigger part of 1970 when he had an OPS+ of 155 at age 33 (and           got the walk off hit in the All-Star team when Pete Rose scored by bowling over Ray Fosse at home) after before had only once had an OPS+ above 99, that being a 110 in the prior season (if it happened now, the insistence would be steroids).
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on June 28, 2016, 11:54:28 pm
Josh Vitters

http://www.pointstreak.com/baseball/player.html?playerid=947095&seasonid=30100
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 02, 2016, 12:28:16 am
This Date In MLB History - July 2nd


(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/07/02/sports/02sandomir02_650.jpg)

(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/64/64-50Fr.jpg) (http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/55/55-399Fr.jpg)

(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/47/47-564Fr.jpg)

(http://www.triumphbooks.com/filebin/fullsize_s11/TheGreatestGameEverPitched_300.jpg)

July 2, 1963 - In one of baseball's most memorable pitching duels, San Francisco Giants' Juan Marichal hurls 16 scoreless innings and his counterpart the Milwaukee Braves' Warren Spahn pitches 15 1/3 scoreless innings before Willie Mays ends the marathon with a walk-off homer off Spahnie in the bottom of the 16th giving San Francisco the win.

Marichal's manager, Alvin Dark, visited the mound in the 9th, 10th, 11th, 13th, and 14th innings, and was talked out of removing Marichal each time. During the 14th-inning visit, Marichal told Dark, "Do you see that man pitching for the other side? Do you know that man is 42 years old? I'm only 25. If that man is on the mound, nobody is going to take me out of here." Marichal ended up throwing 227 pitches in the complete game 1-0 win, while Spahn threw 201 in the loss, allowing nine hits and one walk. Hall of Famer Carl Hubbell, who was in attendance that night, said of Spahn, "He ought to will his body to medical science."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/02/sports/baseball/02nohit.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/02/sports/baseball/02nohit.html)

http://www.si.com/more-sports/2011/07/01/kaplan-spahnmarichal (http://www.si.com/more-sports/2011/07/01/kaplan-spahnmarichal)

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1963/B07020SFN1963.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1963/B07020SFN1963.htm)

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 02, 2016, 09:01:35 am
Would you believe I have all 3 of those baseball cards?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on July 02, 2016, 09:35:10 am
Would you believe I have all 3 of those baseball cards?

I had them all.   Had.  Sold all but a handful of Cub cards in 1978.... paid for a spring break trip to Florida.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on July 27, 2016, 02:58:11 pm
from an Ed Sherman tweet  - letter from the Cubs to a teenage Cubs fan (Jerry Pritikin aka "Bleacher Preacher":

Quote


Ed Sherman
(@Sherman_Report)  23hrs

Fascinating 1954 letter from #Cubs on why team didn't have any Jewish players



(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoUWfarXEAEdP4C.jpg)

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on August 07, 2016, 11:53:20 am
 Gordon Wittenmyer Retweeted
 Christopher Kamka ‏@ckamka  18m18 minutes ago
15 years ago today, former Bear Steve McMichael was ejected from Wrigley Field by umpire Angel Hernandez #Cubs
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 07, 2016, 12:09:36 pm
He's gonna have some speaks with that umpire!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on August 07, 2016, 12:18:20 pm
What's scarier?  That we're all 15 years older or that Angel is still umping.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 10, 2016, 06:35:36 pm
14 years ago today...one of the most fun Cubs games I have had the privilege of attending...

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/seasons/boxscore.asp?GID=COL200208100

Also, one of three times I saw Sammy hit 3 HRs in one game live, which I can't imagine too many people can say, much less someone who lives 500 miles from Wrigley (and who knows how many from Coors)!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on August 10, 2016, 06:57:05 pm
I was there, too.

A few weeks ago we talked about baseball's unwritten rules.  Don Baylor must have been trying to go by the one that says you don't embarrass the other team when he took Sammy out of the game and didn't give him a chance at #4.  I think the Rockies would have understood if Baylor hadn't done that.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on August 10, 2016, 07:22:04 pm
I was also at that game!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 10, 2016, 08:04:09 pm
Can't recall if I met fdisk and di at that game, or one of the others that weekend...

And yes, definitely, we were ticked when Sammy came out!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on August 10, 2016, 08:38:17 pm
Only partially Cubs history but thinking I'm in limited company having attended both a 9-inning 20 K game (3 in MLB history) AND a perfect game (23 in MLB history). Scherzer and Koufax.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 10, 2016, 09:05:29 pm
That's very cool.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on August 11, 2016, 09:16:01 am
https://theathletic.com/16943/2016/08/10/carlos-zambrano-is-always-welcome-at-wrigley-field/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on August 13, 2016, 07:34:12 pm
Besides Jake Arrieta's no-hitter against the Dodgers, here's one of my favorite ESPN Sunday Night Baseball moments.  It just happens to be a game with the Cardinals.

Players mentioned include, Mark Prior, Aramis Ramirez, Henry Blanco, Julian Taveras, and Derrek Lee.  Neifi Perez appeared too.

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/print.jsp?ymd=20050724&content_id=1144061&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=stl
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on August 19, 2016, 12:39:18 am
This Date In MLB History - August 19th

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoE6-JbGRDc

August 19, 1965 - Cincinatti Reds pitcher Jim Maloney's second no-hit effort of 1965 is another 0-0 duel through nine innings, until Reds shortstop Leo Cardenas homers off the left field foul pole in the tenth at Wrigley Field. Jim Maloney's sets a no-hit record by allowing ten walks. He also fans twelve in his 187-pitch 1-0 win over the Cubs. Earlier in the season the Fresno native had also no-hit the Mets for ten innings, but lost the game in the eleventh when Johnny Lewis homered.

boxscore & P-B-P:  http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1965/B08191CHN1965.htm
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on August 19, 2016, 04:01:45 am
And a couple years earlier, two guys exceed 200 pitches...

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_23576938/pitch-counts-not-marichal-spahn-era
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: AndyMacFAIL on September 09, 2016, 03:40:15 pm

Today in Cubs History - September 9th


(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/K_M_A_2/BBF/SKperfecto_zpshtwzfuta.jpg)


(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/64/64-300Fr.jpg)    (http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/66/66-256Fr.jpg)    (http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/65/65-13Fr.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uozLFsEPu8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uozLFsEPu8)

September 9, 1965 - Sandy Koufax of the Los Angeles Dodgers pitched his fourth no-hitter, a perfect game, against the Chicago Cubs.
Koufax fanned 14 in the 1-0 victory while Cubs pitcher Bob Hendley allowed only one hit - a double by Lou Johnson.

Boxscore & P-B-P:  http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1965/B09090LAN1965.htm (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1965/B09090LAN1965.htm)


http://m.mlb.com/news/article/148255150/bob-hendley-one-hitter-loses-to-sandy-koufax/


http://www.truebluela.com/2015/9/9/9289235/sandy-koufax-perfect-game-dodgers-cubs-50-years



Edited to add:  Two Cubs made their major league debuts in this game: Byron Browne and Doug Young.  Also future Cub Todd Zeile was born on this day.

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on September 09, 2016, 03:56:12 pm
Only hit in this game was not in inning when only run scored. Amazing.

I had a birds eye view of Chris Krug's throwing error that scored the only run. Was in first row of left field pavilion near the bullpen and errant throw right in my line of vision, down the line.

Could hear, in the ballpark, Vin Scully's famous 9th inning call of game because of numerous transistor radios brought by fans. Seemed like folks cranked up the volume that inning.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on September 21, 2016, 06:55:31 am
http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/modern-metrics-show-previous-cubs-white-sox-had-mvp-cases/

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on October 02, 2016, 12:03:15 pm
Concession prices at Vin Scully's first game where the Brooklyn Dodgers played the Philadelphia A's at Shibe Park (4/18/1950)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtiSyz_WgAARQBV.jpg)


Hires' root beer was almost as good as Dad's.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on October 06, 2016, 05:26:15 pm
Past postseason play between the Cubs and Giants:

http://wgntv.com/2016/10/06/merkle-will-and-trachsel-a-look-back-at-cubs-giants-playoff-moments/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on October 26, 2016, 10:15:10 am

Remember When Donald Trump Got Booed For Butchering "Take Me Out To The Ballgame”? (http://deadspin.com/remember-when-donald-trump-got-booed-for-butchering-ta-1788216229)
https://youtu.be/KelmQlFKApk (https://youtu.be/KelmQlFKApk)

The day: July 9, 2000. The place: Wrigley Field. A young, 54-year-old fake billionaire with wild aspirations had been practicing singing “Take Me Out to the Ballgame” for two full weeks in preparation for his big debut. And as Donald Trump gleefully tore into the mic, an entire stadium began to boo.

The video above, which was mercifully resurfaced by Chicago’s WGN last week (http://wgntv.com/2016/10/19/watch-clinton-trump-sing-the-7th-inning-stretch-at-wrigley-field/), shows Trump in a rare state of extreme self-consciousness. Because not only had he been supposedly practicing the song for weeks (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chicagoinc/ct-throw-back-trump-clinton-booed-wrigley-chicago-inc--20160810-story.html), and not only was he “very confident he would bring the house down” (according tothe Chicago Tribune (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chicagoinc/ct-throw-back-trump-clinton-booed-wrigley-chicago-inc--20160810-story.html)), but he apparently wasn’t even willing to risk a performance without eyes glued to the lyrics—all 57 words of them. And then, of course, there’s the fact that he sounds like ****.

Adding insult to injury, a New York Post article (http://nypost.com/2000/07/10/trump-sings-for-the-fences-at-wrigley/) at the time quoted a fan who didn’t even know who Trump was. “‘Donald Trump, who’s that again?’ asked Millie Tracer of Skokie. ‘I came to see the game.’”

Don’t worry, 2000-era Donald. One day, 16 years from now, they’ll see. They’ll all see.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on October 26, 2016, 11:17:13 am
We may be hearing him sing from the Oval Office for the next 4 years.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JeffH on October 26, 2016, 12:33:53 pm
Check it out.  Play is doing a bit.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on October 26, 2016, 01:08:51 pm
He's just understandably anxious.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on October 26, 2016, 01:45:20 pm
We may be hearing him sing from the Oval Office for the next 4 years.

The odds are about 100 to 1 against it.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on October 26, 2016, 03:29:38 pm
The odds are about 100 to 1 against it.
If you're a Trump supporter, that's pretty optimistic.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on October 26, 2016, 06:12:09 pm
My support, or lack thereof, does not change the odds.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on October 26, 2016, 07:15:36 pm
My support, or lack thereof, does not change the odds.

Uh, then how is it foolish for someone t vote for a 3rd party candidate?

And, if you answer, it would probably be best to move this to the Politics thread.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on October 29, 2016, 09:48:41 am
Nice story on the Waveland Ave ballhawks

http://www.espn.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=17916240
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on February 13, 2017, 07:43:26 pm
Ken Hubbs died on this day in 1964.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on February 13, 2017, 08:47:04 pm
Ken Hubbs died on this day in 1964.

RIP

Article from a few years ago.

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/fifty-years-later-ken-hubbs-memory-continues-to-glow-021314
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on February 13, 2017, 09:22:14 pm
Notre Dame wanted him to play quarterback. John Wooden wanted him to play guard for UCLA. Hubbs opted for baseball because he could get to the big-time sooner and play longer.

Wow...if I ever knew this, I had forgotten it...just wow...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on February 13, 2017, 10:37:48 pm
Think that Hubbs probably would have developed power, was 6' 2'' and lanky, and two full seasons in majors at age 21.

Told the story many times here--met Hubbs and some of his family in 1963 when I was a blossoming Cubs fan at age 13 and think had a lot to do with sticking with Cubs all these years. Thought about him when Cubs won World Series last year.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on February 13, 2017, 11:13:09 pm
Think that Hubbs probably would have developed power, was 6' 2'' and lanky, and two full seasons in majors at age 21.

Told the story many times here--met Hubbs and some of his family in 1963 when I was a blossoming Cubs fan at age 13 and think had a lot to do with sticking with Cubs all these years. Thought about him when Cubs won World Series last year.
Similar story.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on February 21, 2017, 11:44:52 am
Here's an interview former Cubs media guy Chuck Wasserstrom did with Sammy Sosa over Skype that was published today.  Hard to believe 1998 was 19 years ago.  Hopefully time is starting to heal some old wounds.

http://www.chuckblogerstrom.com/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on March 09, 2017, 04:15:37 pm
Former Cub Bill Hands has passed away at 76.

No word on batterymate Barry Foote...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on March 09, 2017, 04:21:37 pm
Former Cub Bill Hands has passed away at 76.

No word on batterymate Barry Foote...

Hate that.  Hands was a big part of the 68-71 Cubs.  He was there before and after, but those were some high quality seasons from him on strong Cub teams, and he turned in very good to great performances each of those years.
Title: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on March 15, 2017, 09:04:22 am
The Legend of Donnie Baseball...

https://olemiss.rivals.com/news/carolyn-kessinger-the-matriarch-of-ole-miss-baseball

Love how they referred to Don and Carolyn as the "Archie and Olivia Manning of Ole Miss baseball"...that's priceless...

Lots of Cubs stuff here...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on March 15, 2017, 09:17:34 am
Thanks for the link, Dave.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on March 15, 2017, 01:21:37 pm
Kessinger is a good example how player evaluation has changed since sabermetrics.

Probably through the 1980s, a player like Kessinger--good defensive SS but can't hit a lick--could be an everyday regular for 10 years or more in the big leagues. Basically, Kessinger was Munenori Kawasaki.

Kessinger had 8.9 rWAR total in 16 seasons (7.9 fWAR). Remember him well when Cubs came to Dodger Stadium. Durocher batted him leadoff.

Game really changed when offense became a part of what a SS is supposed to do too. Kawasaki's peers are a lot different than Kessinger's peers. But, think modern statistical evaluation has played a big part too in the role players like this have in the big leagues.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on March 20, 2017, 08:51:23 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2697784-shoes-roommates-and-tattoos-the-birth-of-the-cubs-championship-family
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on March 22, 2017, 11:33:52 am
Quote
CurtOne
Re: Cubs in '16
« Reply #7507 on: March 21, 2017, 05:36:57 pm »
Just saw this statistic.  Can someone check its veracity?  Greg Maddux faces 20,421 batters in his career.  Only 310 of them saw a 3-0 count and 177 of those were intentional walks.  Wow!  Just Wow!

If it is not right, it appears very close: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=maddugr01&year=Career&t=p
That link would seem to indicate 312 3-0 counts and 153 of them being intentional walks.  Of course the stats there seem to have some problems.  For instance while it says he 312 times faced batters with 3-0 counts, and that 293 of those 312 times he walked the batter on the 4th pitch (with 153 of them being intentional walks, the same page indicates that an additional 36 of those batters facing 3-0 counts ending up striking out.... and even jesmath can not get 312 when adding 36 to 293... even if I ignore the other 7 times hitters facing 3-0 counts got hits.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on May 04, 2017, 06:47:26 pm
It's hard not to think about this Kerry Wood vs Roger Clemens matchup whenever the Yankees visit Wrigley.

https://youtu.be/MKYg07TuqCk (https://youtu.be/MKYg07TuqCk)

Box score

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200306070.shtml (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200306070.shtml)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on May 04, 2017, 06:50:52 pm
I was there. Eric Karros became a Cub that day.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on May 17, 2017, 09:08:19 pm
On this date in 1979, the Phillies beat the Cubs 23-22 in 10 innings at Wrigley Field.

The wind was blowing out that day.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on May 18, 2017, 02:37:09 pm
On this date in 1979, the Phillies beat the Cubs 23-22 in 10 innings at Wrigley Field.

The wind was blowing out that day.

That was one heck of a game to watch.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on May 18, 2017, 02:39:10 pm
I watched that game on TV.  When Schmidt came up, you just knew what he was going to do.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on June 08, 2017, 05:13:39 pm
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/baseball/iowa-cubs/2017/06/08/josh-vitters-chicago-cubs-sioux-city-independent-league/376407001/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on June 19, 2017, 01:00:23 pm
On this date in 2003...

https://youtu.be/WZbG5MPsfYM
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on June 19, 2017, 01:21:08 pm
I used to show that to the football team as a great form tackle.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on June 19, 2017, 01:34:22 pm
Not bad.  But Butkis would have made sure he didn't get up again.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on June 19, 2017, 02:13:29 pm
I'm glad those red billed caps are 14 years in the past.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 20, 2017, 10:37:37 am
I don’t know if hard feelings between San Diego and the Cubs go back to May 22, 2009 when the Padres celebrated the 25th anniversary of their 1984 World Series team but I sure remember being at Petco that night. 
 
Padres radio announcer Jerry Coleman was the emcee and said something like this as he got started “I know there are some Cubs fans here tonight who might not like us doing this while  you are in town but you can just shutup”.
 
Even a couple of Padre players were quoted in the San Diego paper the next morning as saying “that was cold”.
 
During the player introductions, Steve Garvey was loudly booed and Dave Dravecky got a long ovation.
 
The Padres won the game 4-0 behind Jake Peavey who had 10 Ks.  Every time he got a K they blasted “Another One Bites the Dust”.   The Padres went on to sweep the series.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on June 20, 2017, 01:13:44 pm
Losing to Padres in 1984 was the worst, for me.

Worse than the Bartman game and aftermath. Worse than other post-season losses. 1984 Cubs were best team in NL that season. Bunch of career years from different guys. Would likely have been a great WS against excellent Tigers team. Instead, Padres turned the series into one of the most pedestrian WS ever.

Boo Padres.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 23, 2017, 10:09:58 am
June 23, 1984 - The Sandberg Game

Article
http://chicagocubsonline.com/archives/2014/06/30th-anniversary-sandberg-game.php (http://chicagocubsonline.com/archives/2014/06/30th-anniversary-sandberg-game.php)


Box score
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN198406230.shtml

41 minutes worth listening to
https://youtu.be/34mz7wQKTB0 (https://youtu.be/34mz7wQKTB0)


Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 23, 2017, 10:14:45 am
Remember when the pitcher grounded to end an inning and the 1B would flip the ball to him?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 23, 2017, 10:26:00 am
Gary Matthews may have been interfered with by a fan down the left field line.  The location looks familiar.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Robb on June 23, 2017, 10:28:37 am
Gary Matthews may have been interfered with by a fan down the left field line.  The location looks familiar.
Did he throw a fit followed by an egregious error by Bowa that everyone conveniently forgot?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on June 23, 2017, 10:28:52 am
The first play on the video, Davis throwing the ball into CF on Ozzie Smith's steal of second.... I have to wonder whether Baez would have not only caught the ball Bowa let get by him, but tagged Smith out.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Robb on June 23, 2017, 10:29:44 am
Speaking of Bowa, has there ever been a weaker armed shortstop on the Cubs?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on June 23, 2017, 10:34:03 am
I don't really remember Bowa as having a particularly weak arm, but what we saw in Bowa might be one of the reasons Dunston's arm seemed so amazing.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on June 23, 2017, 12:39:22 pm
No.  Dunston's arm WAS amazing.  He would have made an amazing center fielder.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Robb on June 23, 2017, 03:12:09 pm
No.  Dunston's arm WAS amazing.  He would have made an amazing center fielder.
Or late inning reliever, if he could find the plate.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on June 23, 2017, 05:40:20 pm
I always thought that he would be the perfect two way player.  Play SS or CF until the ninth, and then come in and close if appropriate.  As Robb says, that assumes he had enough control.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: rjzebra on June 24, 2017, 11:05:50 am
Anyone remember Dick Drott?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on June 24, 2017, 11:29:54 am
Anyone remember Dick Drott?

Yes.   And.....?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on June 24, 2017, 09:19:32 pm
Drott and Drabowski were among the first cub pitchers to become my heroes.  But Drott blew out his arm, and Drabowski, as was normal, went on to excel with the White Sox.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on June 24, 2017, 10:06:47 pm
Think you mean Orioles. Only pitched a few innings with WSox at last stop of his career.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on June 24, 2017, 10:31:27 pm
Drabowsky -- best pitcher that Ozanna, Poland, ever produced.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on June 25, 2017, 05:41:49 pm
Think you mean Orioles. Only pitched a few innings with WSox at last stop of his career.

Yes, his good years were with Baltimore.  The fact that he ended up with the Sox, merely stuck in my craw.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 29, 2017, 03:11:21 pm

The 2016 World Series Champion Chicago Cubs exhibit in the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum opens July 1

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDg0y8zXkAAf6zf.jpg:small)

Artifacts in the exhibit include:
•   The bat used by World Series Most Valuable Player Ben Zobrist to drive in the go-ahead run in the 10th inning of Game 7
•   The home jersey worn by Kyle Schwarber – who played in only two regular season games prior to hitting .412 in the World Series – throughout the Fall Classic
•   The first-pitch ball from Game 7 at Cleveland’s Progressive Field
•   The home jersey worn by Anthony Rizzo during Game 4
•   The mitt used by Cubs catcher David Ross throughout the World Series
•   The second base bag used in the 10th inning of Game 7 when the Cubs clinched the title
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on July 03, 2017, 03:01:37 pm
Carrie Muskat's all-time Cubs team

She must be limiting it to players she has covered which is since 1987.

Soriano LF
Ryno 2B
Riz 1B
Dawson RF
Sosa CF
Bryant 3B
Dunston SS
'08 Soto C
Maddux P
'08 K. Wood CL


I might go with the season Rick Wilkins had in 1993 over Geo Soto's 2008.
My closer would be Randy Myers and his 53 saves in 1993 or maybe Rod Beck's 51 saves in 1998 as Kerry Wood was a starter in 1998.   
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 03, 2017, 03:08:15 pm
Yeah, that Williams and Banks guys were bums.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on July 03, 2017, 03:10:43 pm
Yeah, that Williams and Banks guys were bums.

Also curious about your impression of Cap Anson?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on July 03, 2017, 03:15:25 pm
A real loser.  Took his name from a uniform part.  Cap.  Puleeze.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on July 03, 2017, 03:46:22 pm
Yeah, and in today's game, Anson would be a clubhouse problem.

Of course, maybe Cubs players would be deferential to a guy at age 165 still in the big leagues.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on July 03, 2017, 04:31:29 pm

Please read this timely ESPN article.

1918 World Series key in US love affair with national anthem


 
Quote
The World Series was in town, with the Cubs hosting Babe Ruth and the Boston Red Sox. The Chicago games were played at Comiskey Park, the home of the White Sox, instead of their new home at Wrigley Field, what was called Weegham Park at the time, because it held more fans. But in a city jittery over the bombing and weary from the war, Game 1 that day attracted fewer than 20,000 fans, the smallest World Series crowd in years.

 
Quote

A few fans began to sing. Then others joined in "and when the final notes came, a great volume of melody rolled across the field," the Times reported. And when it ended, "onlookers exploded into thunderous applause and rent the air with a cheer that marked the highest point of the day's enthusiasm." The Red Sox went on to win the game and the series, part of a Cubs' championship drought that ended up lasting 108 years but was a mere decade old in 1918.

 
http://www.espn.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=19797748 (http://www.espn.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=19797748)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on July 14, 2017, 08:02:12 am
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/sammy-sosa-still-looks-way-different-playing-days-174253939.html
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEl9Wn-XsAE5y2S.jpg)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on July 14, 2017, 10:33:22 am
Times must be tough for Sammy if he has to become a pimp to make ends meet.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Robb on July 14, 2017, 11:10:16 am
Don't show that picture to Sailorgirl, she is terrified of clowns.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on July 14, 2017, 01:10:58 pm
The Dominican Willy Wonka
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on July 14, 2017, 09:50:04 pm
Please read this timely ESPN article.

1918 World Series key in US love affair with national anthem


 

 

 
http://www.espn.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=19797748 (http://www.espn.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=19797748)


The Babe Ruth Museum in Baltimore (near Camden Yards) has an introductory 7-minute video all about this subject.

They also have a Shoeless Joe Jackson bat that he gave to the Babe.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on July 26, 2017, 01:40:01 pm
http://www.chicitysports.com/2017/07/26/chicagos-baby-boom-credited-to-cubs-world-series-title/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on July 30, 2017, 11:43:46 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/31fergiejenkins/status/891863218599202816
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on August 07, 2017, 09:05:50 am
http://www.statesman.com/sports/former-mlb-star-austin-native-don-baylor-dies/krT1C54IldytuifUju9UJM/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on August 07, 2017, 10:14:36 am
ChicagoCubsOnline‏ @TheCCO  3h3 hours ago
 On this date in 2001, Home plate umpire Angel Hernandez ejected Steve ‘Mongo’ McMichael from Wrigley Field

There may be better videos available but I chose this one because it includes how the game ended.

https://youtu.be/6htcE_vvZxg
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on August 07, 2017, 01:17:06 pm
And 16 years later, Angel Hernandez is still employed as a major league umpire.

By the way, RIP Don Baylor.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 07, 2017, 02:46:15 pm
Another former Cubs manager has died.  Gene Michaels was 79

He managed the Cubs to a record of 46-56 in 1986 and 68-68 in 1987.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on September 15, 2017, 08:12:15 am
If you would like to catch up with Ernie Broglio:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/mlb/charlotte-knights/article173462266.html
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 21, 2017, 09:47:12 am
Great article

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1998-02-27/sports/9802270311_1_harry-caray-game-at-wrigley-field-seventh-inning-stretch (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1998-02-27/sports/9802270311_1_harry-caray-game-at-wrigley-field-seventh-inning-stretch)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKP9HtTV4AAEQ3n.jpg:small)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on September 22, 2017, 11:26:35 am
I don't think it has been mentioned anywhere else...did anyone else see how jacked Alfonso Soriano was when the cameras showed him in Tampa?

I can't even think of a comp...but his upper body was massive...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on September 22, 2017, 12:17:46 pm
http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2017/09/19/255096586/alfonso-soriano-took-in-a-cubs-game-in-st-petersburg-and-hes-clearly-been-working-out
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JeffH on September 22, 2017, 12:49:44 pm
I don't think it has been mentioned anywhere else...did anyone else see how jacked Alfonso Soriano was when the cameras showed him in Tampa?

I can't even think of a comp...but his upper body was massive...

Yeah, that was ridiculous.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on October 27, 2017, 01:11:51 am
Baseball by BSmile‏ @BSmile  5h5 hours ago
Great view of Forbes Field during the 1960 #WorldSeries from atop the University of Pittsburgh Cathedral Of Learning building! #MLB #Pirates
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNGt9tgW4AIHesx.jpg:small)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on October 29, 2017, 10:03:02 am
Quote from: Otherwise boring ESPN article
For this World Series, Houston has an oversized replica of an old-time locomotive simply known as "The Train" that moves along a track about 90 feet above left field when the hometown Astros hit a home run or win a game.
The train has been there for years, probably since the ballpark opened.

Ron Santo thought the train was carrying a load of pumpkins.  Pat Hughes said something like "No, Ron, this is Minute Maid Park.  Those are oranges".
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on December 24, 2017, 08:22:40 am
Courtesy Bleacher Nation

https://youtu.be/1NiSpQPfmI4
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Ron on December 24, 2017, 04:48:20 pm
An interesting analysis of whether Sammy Sosa should be considered for the HOF that argues "his legacy is unfairly tarnished."

https://www.si.com/mlb/20...osa-hall-fame-ballot-2018 (https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/12/20/sammy-sosa-hall-fame-ballot-2018)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on December 24, 2017, 06:01:03 pm
An interesting analysis of whether Sammy Sosa should be considered for the HOF that argues "his legacy is unfairly tarnished."

https://www.si.com/mlb/20...osa-hall-fame-ballot-2018 (https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/12/20/sammy-sosa-hall-fame-ballot-2018)

A somewhat different view from Yankees writer Randy Miller

Quote
Sammy Sosa, OF
Age: 49 (50 on Nov. 12, 2018)

Hometown: San Pedro de Macoris, Dominican Republic

Career statistics: .273 average, 9,896 AB, 1,475 runs, 2,408 hits, 379 doubles, 45 triples, 609 HR, 1,667 RBIs, 234 SB, 107 CS, 929 BB, 2,306 K, 2,354 games, 58.8 WAR in 18 seasons with Texas Rangers (1989, 2007), Chicago White Sox (1990-91), Chicago Cubs (1991-2004) and Baltimore Orioles (2005).

Postseason statistics: .245 average, 53 AB, 8 runs, 13 hits, 3 doubles, 0 triple, 2 HR, 7 RBIs, 1 SB, 2 CS, 13 BB, 17 K, 15 games in three series.

Achievements: 1998 NL MVP; 1998 Roberto Clemente Award; 1999 Hank Aaron Award; 7 All-Star Games (1995, 1998-2002, 2004); 6 Silver Sluggers (1995, 1998-2002); 9th all-time in homers; 29th all-time in RBIs; 39th all-time in total bases (4,704); 43rd all-time in slugging percentage (.534); 77th all-time in runs; 100th all-time in games.

My ballot: No vote.

Explanation: I admit being caught up in the excitement of Mark McGwire and Sosa beating Roger Maris’ 61 in 61 as much as anyone in 1998, but both cheated their way to breaking the single-season home run record. I never voted for McGwire, who has been off the ballot for two years after 10 misses, and I never voted for Sosa, who hasn’t come close to getting in (probably because he’s a double cheater as a guy who also was caught using a corked bat).


The lengthy column lists his feelings on all of the 2018 candidates.


http://www.nj.com/yankees...lled_out_my_2018_bal.html (http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2017/12/baseball_hall_of_fame_how_i_filled_out_my_2018_bal.html)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on December 24, 2017, 06:03:46 pm
If anybody doesn't remember how to defeat that type of paywall:

As soon as the article begins to appear refresh your screen.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Ron on December 24, 2017, 06:13:12 pm
A somewhat different view from Yankees writer Randy Miller


The lengthy column lists his feelings on all of the 2018 candidates.

To be clear, the Sports Illustrated article does not argue that Sammy should be in the HOF, but rather that his accomplishments are not being fairly appreciated. 

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jack Birdbath on December 24, 2017, 08:29:33 pm
A somewhat different view from Yankees writer Randy Miller


The lengthy column lists his feelings on all of the 2018 candidates.


http://www.nj.com/yankees...lled_out_my_2018_bal.html (http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2017/12/baseball_hall_of_fame_how_i_filled_out_my_2018_bal.html)

One of the worst HOF ballots ever.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on December 26, 2017, 09:15:20 am
Great Kerry Wood story by MLB.com's Joe Posnanski that includes video highlights of his 20 K game and his final appearance at Wrigley

Quote
My favorite part of the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot is that it offers a chance to remember not just the great players, but some of the good ones, too. As we begin our daily player-by-player breakdown of the 33 names on the Hall of Fame ballot -- which will take us all the way to election day on Jan. 24 -- let's go back to May 6, 1998, and a 20-year-old kid making his fifth Major League start.

https://www.mlb.com/news/...ull-of-swings/c-264007854 (https://www.mlb.com/news/cubs-kerry-wood-has-career-full-of-swings/c-264007854)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on December 26, 2017, 09:48:53 am
Great Kerry Wood story by MLB.com's Joe Posnanski that includes video highlights of his 20 K game and his final appearance at Wrigley

https://www.mlb.com/news/...ull-of-swings/c-264007854 (https://www.mlb.com/news/cubs-kerry-wood-has-career-full-of-swings/c-264007854)


The video of Kerry striking out Dayan Viceido shows him being pulled from the game by bench coach Jamie Quirk.  Dale Sveum had been ejected earlier.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CUBluejays on December 26, 2017, 12:29:01 pm
I'm not sure if it was mentioned before, but 30 for 30 podcast did a great one on getting lights on Wrigley. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on December 27, 2017, 05:31:06 pm
Eric Chesterton makes a case for Carlos Zambrano being elected to the Hall Of Fame.

Who is he? - Eric Chesterton writes about the Philadelphia Phillies for Today's Knuckleball. He also writes for SB Nation's The Good Phight. He lives in Ardmore, Pennsylvania and can be found on Twitter @CF_Larue.

I hope he does not have a vote as here are his reasons:

Tied for seventh all-time for home runs by a pitcher
He was an early and avid internet user
He always wanted to stay in the game
He threw the only neutral site no-hitter in MLB history
He can probably still pitch today

If you want a good laugh here's the full article

http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2017/12/17/263692146/heres-why-carlos-zambrano-should-be-in-the-hall-of-fame?tcid=tw_article_263692146


Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on December 27, 2017, 05:39:17 pm
Is there a "head case" wing in the Hall of Fame?  He'd be a great fit for that.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on January 14, 2018, 09:38:52 pm
There’s a show on MLBN right now ranking the 25 best pitching performances ever.

They just showed Kerry Wood at 15.

I changed the channel.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on January 31, 2018, 03:51:47 pm
Former Cub, Oscar ****, died.  Who can forget that Afro. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on January 31, 2018, 03:52:23 pm
LOL  It's the guy's name and they won't allow it.   G AMBLE.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on January 31, 2018, 04:39:08 pm
I was stationed in San Antonio in the late 1960s and watched him play there.  At that time he was very fast and had a very strong arm, but was strictly a line drive hitter.  Later, he lost the speed and arm, but really gained home run power.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on February 07, 2018, 07:49:32 pm
https://theathletic.com/233745/2018/02/07/who-gave-kerry-wood-a-hall-of-fame-vote-this-guy-did-and-he-had-a-perfectly-nice-reason-for-doing-it/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on February 18, 2018, 08:36:11 am
A nice little tribute to Harry Caray who died 20 years ago today

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/965224555320135689
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: BearHit on February 19, 2018, 10:39:41 am
Pretty cool

https://www.mlb.com/news/andre-dawson-excited-by-hbcu-tournament/c-266697218

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on April 01, 2018, 09:21:19 am
https://sports.yahoo.com/m/0239fc62-cff2-3c45-b241-75a8d4a7de94/paul-sullivan%3A-former-cub.html
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 01, 2018, 01:09:52 pm
https://sports.yahoo.com/m/0239fc62-cff2-3c45-b241-75a8d4a7de94/paul-sullivan%3A-former-cub.html


In retrospect, getting rid of Zambrano may have been one of the more important moves made by the Theocracy.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: craig on April 01, 2018, 10:09:51 pm
P2, thanks much for that link.  What an inspiring story.  Man,  often think the inner life must be so hard, incredibly hard, for pro athletes.  So much adulation, so much criticism, so broad an avenue to pride and self-sufficiency, easy for the heart to become empty.  Pretty neat to hear Z's story. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: method on April 25, 2018, 12:33:18 pm
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=19238686

Rick Monday saves American flag
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 25, 2018, 05:04:57 pm
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=19238686

Rick Monday saves American flag

If it hadn't been for Monday, we wouldn't even have an American flag today.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on April 25, 2018, 07:16:26 pm
Not that particular one.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 26, 2018, 05:22:48 pm
Not that particular one.

My bet is that most of the American flags which were in use in the mid-70's are not around today.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: grrrrlacher on April 26, 2018, 09:19:57 pm
Electric Amish activates Ryon Healy from the DL and releases VMart.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on April 26, 2018, 09:21:01 pm

Electric Amish activates Ryon Healy from the DL and releases VMart.

ummm.... ???
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: grrrrlacher on April 26, 2018, 09:31:57 pm
Ha! clearly i entered the wrong discussion for that.  Nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on April 26, 2018, 09:34:39 pm
:)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on April 26, 2018, 10:46:14 pm
VMart is history!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Ron on May 04, 2018, 09:08:59 am
Apparently Kaplan had Sammy Sosa on his show yesterday.  This is Teddy Greenstein's commentary.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-cubs-sammy-sosa-greenstein-20180503-story.html
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on May 04, 2018, 11:58:53 am
Apparently Kaplan had Sammy Sosa on his show yesterday.  This is Teddy Greenstein's commentary.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-cubs-sammy-sosa-greenstein-20180503-story.html

Teddy sounds just a tad bit bitter about some things.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on May 04, 2018, 12:00:03 pm
I'd still like to know who the boombox masher was.  Amazing that's stayed a secret all these years later.

It's the last great unsolved mystery of the early aught's Cubs.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on May 04, 2018, 12:26:16 pm
I'd still like to know who the boombox masher was.  Amazing that's stayed a secret all these years later.

It's the last great unsolved mystery of the early aught's Cubs.
The name you hear most often is Kerry Wood.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Deeg on May 04, 2018, 07:04:49 pm
Great piece on Kerry Wood's 20-K masterpiece:

https://www.mlb.com/news/kerry-wood-astros-recall-20-strikeout-game/c-274851112
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on May 05, 2018, 09:00:29 am
Great piece on Kerry Wood's 20-K masterpiece:

https://www.mlb.com/news/kerry-wood-astros-recall-20-strikeout-game/c-274851112

This is Bruce Miles’ scorecard for the game.  I've never seen another scorer who didn’t use a backwards K for a called third strike.

(http://www.dailyherald.com/storyimage/DA/20180504/SPORTS/180509385/EP/1/1/EP-180509385.jpg&updated=201805041858&MaxW=800&maxH=800&noborder)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Deeg on May 05, 2018, 09:48:59 am
There's a mistake on that - that hit should read "E5"...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 12, 2018, 06:08:24 pm
Christopher Kamka  @ckamka   24m24 minutes ago

Here's an obscure #Cubs career leaderboard...
Most games pitched in franchise history without any starts:
329  Pedro Strop
300  Bruce Sutter
296  Héctor Rondón
276  Terry Adams
265  Michael Wuertz
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 15, 2018, 09:49:30 am
ChicagoCubsOnline  @TheCCO   3h3 hours ago
Happy Birthday to #Cubs Hall of Famer, Sweet Swingin’ Billy Williams


Surprisingly, they don't give his age.  Billy is now 80.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: dogstoothe on June 16, 2018, 01:12:27 am
I got to meet Williams, Beckert, and Kessinger in the Quad Cities at some fan thing.  One of those memories that hangs on. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 23, 2018, 08:54:28 am
June 23


Harry Caray's radio call synced to the NBC telecast video

https://youtu.be/34mz7wQKTB0
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 26, 2018, 01:46:20 pm
Fergie Jenkins  @31fergiejenkins   1h1 hour ago

It is with a heavy heart that I share the best clubhouse manager in all of baseball for over 50 years, Yosh Kowano, passed away this morning at age 97. He was one-of-a-kind. RIP Yosh.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgoibXnXcAEl0H2.jpg:small)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 26, 2018, 01:47:23 pm
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-cubs-yosh-kawano-dead-20180626-story.html
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 26, 2018, 01:48:25 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgol3INU8AAJCzK.jpg:small)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 26, 2018, 01:50:51 pm
(https://suntimesmedia.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/19_cruze_cubs_yosh_1_37602369.jpg?w=637&zoom=1)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 26, 2018, 04:16:00 pm
With tonight’s game being telecast by WGN, I’m sure there will be a well deserved tribute to Yosh Kawano.  More than a few of us became Cubs fans when we got cable in the 1980s and started watching Harry Caray and Steve Stone on the superstation, channel 9.  On whatever system I had then, it was channel 33. 

Arne Harris, Dwayne Staats, Yosh, and a few others were part of the games too.  You could count on Dorothy, the gray haired lady always being shown during “Take Me Out To the Ballgame”.  I think Len said the other day that she is now 92.   And who could forget the Shawon-O-Meter? 

Those were the days when even the commercials were well known.  A great city deserves a great newspaper, Murph’s 76 with the little girl not getting to see her Dad’s odometer turnover because she was busy waving goodbye to Murph.  And, of course, the ubiquitous Garden Claw. 

Another memory is the time Yosh was shown on camera in the visitor’s dugout wearing one of their ballcaps and Steve Stone saying “Oh no, Yosh has been traded”.

I was happy to see the Cubs honor Yosh by giving him a World Series ring.

RIP, Yosh.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on June 26, 2018, 06:02:55 pm
Re: the commercials, I remember when Empire was just 588-2300...without the area code...same song, though...

TBS was 17, WGN was 19, and WOR was 29...there was always a game on one of those three channels.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on June 26, 2018, 06:07:48 pm
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And who could forget the Shawon-O-Meter? 

I was pretty thrilled a couple of years ago when I visited Cooperstown, and they had the Shawon-O-Meter on display there. 

By the way, I forgot about WOR showing a lot of the Mets games on cable back in the day.  It's kind of a bygone era now with MLB Extra Innings, MLB.tv, and all of that, but I still kind of miss being able to just simply watch Cubs games on WGN and not have to get the extra subscription to catch all of the games.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 26, 2018, 06:49:51 pm
Marla Collins

"That fella was clean-shaven at the start of the game"

Steve Stone talking about his druggist, Howard, and when they showed a kid eating cotton candy he'd say that was keeping his dentist busy.   What was the dentist's name?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on June 26, 2018, 07:32:20 pm
With tonight’s game being telecast by WGN, I’m sure there will be a well deserved tribute to Yosh Kawano.  More than a few of us became Cubs fans when we got cable in the 1980s and started watching Harry Caray and Steve Stone on the superstation, channel 9.  On whatever system I had then, it was channel 33. 

Arne Harris, Dwayne Staats, Yosh, and a few others were part of the games too.  You could count on Dorothy, the gray haired lady always being shown during “Take Me Out To the Ballgame”.  I think Len said the other day that she is now 92.   And who could forget the Shawon-O-Meter? 

Those were the days when even the commercials were well known.  A great city deserves a great newspaper, Murph’s 76 with the little girl not getting to see her Dad’s odometer turnover because she was busy waving goodbye to Murph.  And, of course, the ubiquitous Garden Claw. 

Another memory is the time Yosh was shown on camera in the visitor’s dugout wearing one of their ballcaps and Steve Stone saying “Oh no, Yosh has been traded”.

I was happy to see the Cubs honor Yosh by giving him a World Series ring.

RIP, Yosh.

The first time I ever remember hearing about Yosh Kawano was in an interview with Dallas Green after the Tribune bought the Cubs and hired Green as President.  He mentioned that the Cubs were going to continue with their relationship with Ernie Banks as a "Goodwill Ambassador", and was asked if it was part of the purchase agreement that the Cubs keep Ernie on the payroll.  He said "no, the only one that got an employment contract as part of the Tribune purchase was Yosh Kawano."  It was a few years later that I found out who he was.  Obviously, he was well regarded, even back then.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on June 26, 2018, 11:56:17 pm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180627/9ac088ed97139269f1bc42d4a20c5bff.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180627/3ac5a399238b42f214f9dffd6b0b0f54.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180627/18475003cb94bf96df3e17595090cfb7.jpg)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 27, 2018, 02:00:04 pm
A must read

Doug Glanville remembers Yosh Kawano, the captain of Cubs past

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/cubs/doug-glanville-remembers-yosh-kawano-captain-cubs-past
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DUSTY on June 27, 2018, 02:14:59 pm
Something I thought you all might find interesting.

In the hotel business during the Summer in a tourist down every day is a madhouse.

You may bump into a celebrity or have a hotel full of the most redneck family reunion you could imagine.

Regardless of that we have a lot of folks from other countries come over here to work during the Summer and it's usually Russian women (you'd never understand if I tried) or Mexicans.

Our hotel hired a Dominican young man recently.

Of course I started talking baseball with him and asked him who the most famous Dominican was.

He said Sammy Sosa was the most famous but the people dont like him because he thinks he's better than the rest of them and he even mentioned him bleaching his skin.

He said the most beloved and it's not even close is "Big Papi".

He didnt even call him by his name just "Big Papi".
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 27, 2018, 02:49:44 pm
Good timing, Dusty

Current SI story

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“I passed Ernie Banks for most home runs in Chicago Cubs history,” he says. “He has a statue, and I don’t have nothing. So, what the f---?”

https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/06/27/sammy-sosa-cubs-dubai-steroids-mark-mcgwire
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on June 28, 2018, 09:45:18 am
Good timing, Dusty

“I passed Ernie Banks for most home runs in Chicago Cubs history,” he says. “He has a statue, and I don’t have nothing. So, what the f---?”

https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/06/27/sammy-sosa-cubs-dubai-steroids-mark-mcgwire

Sosa made more money in one month than Ernie made in his almost 20 years with the Cubs.  That is hardly nothing.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 30, 2018, 12:36:20 am
Patrick Reusse in the Minneapolis paper talking about the last time the Twins visited Wrigley in 2009

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That series was notable for Cubs right fielder Milton Bradley tossing a ball into the stands when there were two outs, and the Twins winning a series (2-1) in Wrigley for the first time.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on July 10, 2018, 03:34:19 pm
If anyone ever wanted to relive the 2016 WS on this board, last out on this page:

http://bbf.createaforum.com/archives/today's-game-2016-postseason-edition/4785/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on July 10, 2018, 03:38:21 pm
Thanks, mO.  It was fun to go back and re-live the moment.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: VJ on July 26, 2018, 08:04:43 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cR6vDLajIQ
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on August 06, 2018, 06:34:23 pm
Paul Sullivan  @PWSullivan   6m6 minutes ago

Just spoke with umpire Angel Hernandez at Sox Park. Angel said he looked at video of last pitch to Rizzo and that it was off plate by three inches, should've been ball four. "Rizzo was right... I'm not perfect."
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JeffH on August 06, 2018, 06:38:20 pm
Good for Angel.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on August 06, 2018, 08:21:06 pm
I'm not sure he deserves admiration for being bad at his job
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on August 06, 2018, 08:29:54 pm
Paul Sullivan  @PWSullivan   6m6 minutes ago

Just spoke with umpire Angel Hernandez at Sox Park. Angel said he looked at video of last pitch to Rizzo and that it was off plate by three inches, should've been ball four. "Rizzo was right... I'm not perfect."

Nobody's perfect, but a handful of umpires are at least a little closer to that standard than Angel Hernandez.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 23, 2018, 07:38:08 pm
A kid at my school today was wearing a Cubs jersey with the date 7-2-11 written on the back -- no player's name, just the date.

He said he had no idea what it referenced, and wasn't even really a Cubs fan, but his family merely got the jersey and he was wearing it.

Any ideas as to the relevance of the date?

I thought it might have been a Baez fan commemorating the date that he signed with the Cubs, but I just checked and he didn't sign until August.  Hendry was fired on 7/22/11, so that isn't it.  It's a day when the Cubs lost a game 1-0 to the White Sox.  https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN201107020.shtml

Anyone else have a guess as to the significance of the 7-2-11 date?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: wmljohn on August 24, 2018, 09:12:49 am
Have you checked anything from 1911?  Could be that...

I have no clue.

Maybe it was some kids high school locker combination number and they got the shirt from goodwill.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on August 24, 2018, 09:59:35 am
https://sports.yahoo.com/cubs-back-1st-beat-brewers-7-2-11-043641499--mlb.html
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 24, 2018, 07:53:34 pm
Have you checked anything from 1911?  Could be that...

I have no clue.

Maybe it was some kids high school locker combination number and they got the shirt from goodwill.

It wasn't handwritten on the shirt.  It might have been put on the shirt by special order, but it appeared to have come with the jersey.

https://sports.yahoo.com/cubs-back-1st-beat-brewers-7-2-11-043641499--mlb.html

Doesn't seem likely the "11" would refer to an 11 inning game in the middle of an incomplete season.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 06, 2018, 04:22:24 pm
Last time the Cubs visited DC

https://youtu.be/ih-9bmfEnKs
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 15, 2018, 12:53:19 am
crawly's cub kingdom  @crawlyscubs  11h11 hours ago
BREAKING. The #Cubs organization will no longer be producing Vine Line, the magazine that many of us Cubs fans grew up loving. The last issue will be in December. Very sad

Very sad, indeed.  Like The Sporting News, and a lot of other magazines and papers, a large part Vine Line's demise was the Internet.  Surprising it lasted this long.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on November 02, 2018, 09:56:35 am
Two years ago today

https://youtu.be/HOp8w2PgHlM
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on November 18, 2018, 09:02:35 am
Glanville Offseason Journal: Traded in the offseason, but life goes on

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He explained very clearly that the organization tried to give the everyday job to “everyone else but you,” but was complimentary in how I was able to take advantage of the opportunity when it presented itself.

A must read

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/cubs/glanville-offseason-journal-traded-offseason-life-goes
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on November 23, 2018, 01:39:01 pm
Martinsburg, West Virginia
Home of a Hall of Famer and Cubs great

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsoLJ7DXcAEhZvD.jpg:small)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on November 23, 2018, 03:17:50 pm
Martinsburg is a dreadful place.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on November 23, 2018, 04:19:23 pm
Martinsburg is a dreadful place.

But wasn't Wilson also  dreadful human being?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on November 23, 2018, 05:34:50 pm
Martinsburg, West Virginia
Home of a Hall of Famer and Cubs great

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsoLJ7DXcAEhZvD.jpg:small)
Who the hell is heck Wilson?  I've checked several websites and there is only HACK Wilson.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JeffH on November 23, 2018, 05:55:08 pm
That's one of the reasons it's a dreadful place.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on November 23, 2018, 06:08:54 pm
Coal mining is not something you want your town's future to depend on.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on November 23, 2018, 09:08:44 pm
Glanville Offseason Journal: Traded in the offseason, but life goes on

A must read

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/cubs/glanville-offseason-journal-traded-offseason-life-goes


As a baseball player, Glanville is a great writer.

As a writer, Glanville was a great player.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on December 10, 2018, 11:24:54 am
Just wondering now that Lee Smith is in the Hall, should the Cubs retire his number?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on December 10, 2018, 11:28:10 am
Just wondering now that Lee Smith is in the Hall, should the Cubs retire his number?
46 - Currently worn by Pedro Strop
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on December 10, 2018, 11:47:06 am
There are a lot of Cubs players in the Hall of Fame.  However, a large amount played before numbers were worn on uniforms.  How many HOF members that were predominately Cubs players would be eligible to have their numbers retired by the Cubs?  I would leave out guys like Hornsby and Dean, who played most of their prime years with other teams. 

Cuyler, Hartnett and perhaps Wilson are the only ones that come to mind.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JeffH on December 10, 2018, 11:58:52 am
Cuyler and Hartnett wore numbers.

What about Mordecai Brown?  Frank Chance?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on December 10, 2018, 12:08:33 pm
In honor of those without numbers, let's hang Davep from one of the flagpoles.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Reb on December 10, 2018, 01:33:22 pm
Billy Herman worth a mention.

Problem there is Herman wore #2 for half of his Cubs career and #4 for the other half of his Cubs career.

So, as a compromise, retire #3?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on December 10, 2018, 01:33:25 pm
Cuyler and Hartnett wore numbers.

What about Mordecai Brown?  Frank Chance?

I believe that the Yankees were the first team to wear numbers on their uniforms, and they corresponded to their place in the batting order.  Which is the reason why Babe Ruth wore number 3, since he batted third in the order.  If they were the first, then players like Brown and Chance were definitely before the number era.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on December 10, 2018, 02:00:59 pm
Correct.

Ruth wore #3 and Gehrig wore #4.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on December 10, 2018, 03:00:15 pm
Billy Herman worth a mention.

Problem there is Herman wore #2 for half of his Cubs career and #4 for the other half of his Cubs career.
Reb is correct on Herman

Gabby Hartnett wore 2, 7, and 9.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CUBluejays on December 10, 2018, 03:11:13 pm
https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHC/uniform-numbers.shtml
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on December 10, 2018, 04:42:48 pm
http://www.cubsbythenumbers.com/cubs-all-time.html
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on April 08, 2019, 09:28:03 am

Good start to what turned out to be a not-so-good year

https://youtu.be/RJ-vGg_edoI
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on April 08, 2019, 06:59:03 pm
It was actually a GREAT year.

It just lasted about 40 days too long.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on April 09, 2019, 10:25:27 am
ChicagoCubsOnline  @TheCCO  3h3 hours ago
On this date in 1969, Billy Williams hit four consecutive doubles in a #Cubs 11-3 victory over the Phillies behind Bill Hands at Wrigley Field.

Cubs Trivia

What Cub tied Williams' club record of four doubles in a game in 2006?
What is he doing now?

Who came up at the same time as him and was hit in the helmet in his only Cubs plate appearance?   
The Marlins later signed him to a one-day contract to give him an at bat where he struck out.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on April 09, 2019, 10:50:03 am
Adam Greenberg
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on April 09, 2019, 10:54:09 am
The doubles guy could be Ryan Theriot?  I have no idea what he's doing these days, though.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on April 09, 2019, 11:14:56 am
The doubles guy could be Ryan Theriot?  I have no idea what he's doing these days, though.
It was Matt Murton.  He was a minor league instructor for the Cubs in 2018 and is probably still doing that.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on April 11, 2019, 07:12:55 pm
As Len and JD just reported a little while ago, former Cubs hurler and Chicago native Scott Sanderson passed away today.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on April 16, 2019, 04:31:38 pm
Last year I got an email at the end of each game with a summary.  Not getting those this year.  Anybody know where to sign up for that?  I can't remember.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on April 16, 2019, 04:50:01 pm
Last year I got an email at the end of each game with a summary.  Not getting those this year.  Anybody know where to sign up for that?  I can't remember.
For a number of years, part of Cubs.com included what they called "game notes".  About two hours before each game you could look at all the background information that Len and JD had for that game.  Now you have to be credentialed by MLB to have access. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on April 25, 2019, 09:51:14 am
On this day in 1976


(https://securea.mlb.com/assets/images/7/1/6/263624716/cuts/320x320/cut.jpg)


Vin Scully narrates
https://youtu.be/hbr1hNp-nI4


The seventh inning stretch yesterday was a tape of Vin Scully.  Any chance it will be Monday live today?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on May 02, 2019, 10:59:36 pm
Ryno and his wife at Harry Caray’s...any guesses to the 3rd guy in their party?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190503/bc21c7ce4453d006e610dc892a495c90.jpg)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JeffH on May 03, 2019, 07:42:20 am
Jose Hernandez?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on May 03, 2019, 08:31:00 am
Jose Hernandez?
Often referred to as Jose K. Hernandez.

(https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201903271/images/headshots/4/478883e0_davis.jpg)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on May 03, 2019, 09:47:28 am
Good stuff! That is indeed Jose Hernandez.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on May 06, 2019, 11:55:02 am
There are a few events you never get tired of watching. May 6, 1998 was one of them.
https://youtu.be/gzaPr0sixfs
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: brjones on May 06, 2019, 01:09:38 pm
Nice GIF of all 20 strikeout pitches at once:

https://twitter.com/eorvieto/status/1125446036229464065
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on May 06, 2019, 01:26:13 pm
You would think the batter would have been able to hit at least one of those balls.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on May 09, 2019, 10:02:32 pm



https://youtu.be/sKg_LzQEF7c

Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on May 18, 2019, 10:00:57 am
May 18, 2012


Jamie Quirk made the pitching change as manage Dale Sveum had been ejected for arguing a call at second base in the fifth inning.


The White Sox won the game 3-2.


Starting lineup that day
RF David DeJesus
CF Tony Campana
SS Starlin Castro
1B Brian LaHair
LF Alfonso Soriano
3B Ian Stewart
C  Welington Castillo
2B Darwin Barney
P  Jeff Samardzija


https://youtu.be/eFdO9XX36Ps
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on May 18, 2019, 11:47:22 am
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Starting lineup that day
RF David DeJesus
CF Tony Campana
SS Starlin Castro
1B Brian LaHair
LF Alfonso Soriano
3B Ian Stewart
C  Welington Castillo
2B Darwin Barney
P  Jeff Samardzija

Yuck.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on May 20, 2019, 10:12:48 am
May 20, 2006

https://youtu.be/qdQn05_yvto
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Playtwo on May 24, 2019, 02:29:15 pm
https://theathletic.com/994087/2019/05/24/holy-cow-80s-cubs-jody-davis-and-leon-durham-reunited-in-reds-system/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on May 27, 2019, 12:57:15 pm
Bill Buckner has passed away...69 years old...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on May 27, 2019, 01:33:56 pm
He had tremendous bat control.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on May 27, 2019, 01:48:55 pm
My only Buckner story - I was in Des Moines to visit a friend who had season tickets to the I-Cubs.  The subject of Bill Buckner came up and he mentioned seeing the Chicago Cubs play at Sec Taylor Stadium.  Buckner hustled as if the game meant something. 
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Ron on May 27, 2019, 02:55:48 pm
My only Buckner story - I was in Des Moines to visit a friend who had season tickets to the I-Cubs.  The subject of Bill Buckner came up and he mentioned seeing the Chicago Cubs play at Sec Taylor Stadium.  Buckner hustled as if the game meant something. 

Buckner didn't know any other way to play.  He always "respected 90."
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on May 28, 2019, 08:12:58 am
He didn't have much of a voice but Bill Buckner conducted the seventh inning stretch at Wrigley a number of times and it was always fun to listen to his interviews.

I'm guessing we'll see him on the video board during the next homestand.   Maybe he'll even be added to the list of Cubs greats who have that distinction on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on June 09, 2019, 08:21:16 pm
Former Cubs manager Frank Lucchesi passed away today. He was 92.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 17, 2019, 03:06:22 pm
Posted here for lack of a more appropriate topic

“You couldn’t give me a $5,000, $10,000 bill to put another foot in that place,” Harrelson, who covered White Sox games for 33 years until his retirement in 2017, said Monday. “I’m telling you what, that place sucks, for the visiting team.”

(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1140681034817781765/GbB-fFwX?format=jpg&name=600x314)

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2019/6/17/18682295/hawk-harrelson-wrigley-field-that-place-sucks
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on June 17, 2019, 04:30:45 pm
He won't go to Wrigley?  I don't think I'll sleep tonight.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: JR on June 17, 2019, 05:01:41 pm
I'm sure the fans of 28 other teams in baseball wish he felt that way about their home stadiums too.

Heck, a lot of the fans of the 29th team might also feel the same way.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: mO on June 19, 2019, 03:06:34 pm
Ryne Sandberg looks back to how it all started for him during Midwest League all-star week

https://www.southbendtribune.com/sports/professional/sbcubs/noie-ryne-sandberg-looks-back-to-how-it-all-started/article_10771c4e-af7b-50f7-a014-4296358822cb.html
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on June 23, 2019, 09:56:03 am

June 23, 1984

Harry's radio call of the Sandberg game synced to the NBC TV broadcast. 


The action is picked up in the seventh inning and lasts 41 minutes.  The audio of the seventh inning stretch is included.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34mz7wQKTB0
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: ben on June 23, 2019, 01:29:16 pm
Thanks Bennett!  Hard to believe the Sandberg Game was 35 years ago!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on July 07, 2019, 09:27:08 am
Harry and Steve had some fun with this

Cincinnati Reds  @Reds  1h1 hour ago
26 years ago today: Tom Browning leaves the #Reds' dugout at Wrigley Field in uniform, walks across the street and sits with a group of Cubs fans on the roof of an apartment building behind the right field bleachers. Manager Davey Johnson fines him $500 for the stunt.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-3-CHuXUAUY8RW.jpg:small)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on July 07, 2019, 02:30:39 pm
I was watching that day. That was great!
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: dev on July 07, 2019, 02:47:28 pm
Jake is a thug?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CUBluejays on July 14, 2019, 08:58:52 pm
Anyone remember Billy Hayes?  I just saw on Twitter that he resigned from the Giants as minor league coach. My biggest memory is that he had a sweet handle bar mustache on an Iowa Cubs 1984 baseball card. I was kinda shocked to see that he was the Cubs first round pick in 1978 (13th) and made the Cubs twice for brief call ups in 1980 and 1981. When I looked at his stats he had he walked a lot and had some power at Iowa but never got called up again. Since during that time the Cubs has Steve Lake as a backup I am just assuming he was a butcher behind the plate.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on July 17, 2019, 10:06:50 pm
I remember him fairly well.  Saw a lot of games in Iowa when I bought spices from Tone Brothers in Des Moines.  He had a little bit of power, but never hit enough to be looked on as a legitimate prospect, at least by the time he was playing in Des Moines.  I remember his defense as being about average.  Framing didn't exist back then.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on July 18, 2019, 12:36:09 pm
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ST. LOUIS -- Ernie Broglio, a 21-game winner in 1960 who is remembered most as the player traded by the St. Louis Cardinals for Hall of Famer Lou Brock, has died. He was 83.

http://www.espn.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=27213011
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on July 22, 2019, 10:03:09 am
Interesting note on Mike Montgomery's game 7 save.

Quote
The Society for American Baseball Research defines a "Golden Pitch" as any time the pitching team and the hitting team both have a chance to win the World Series on a given pitch. It's obviously rare. It requires a winner-take-all game at the end of the World Series. The home team has to be trailing and down to its last at-bat, with the winning run either batting or on base.

http://www.espn.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=27236919
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on August 05, 2019, 02:01:26 pm
Carrie Muskat  @CarrieMuskat  2m2 minutes ago
Tonight will be A's 1st visit to Wrigley since June 15-17, 2010. The #Cubs lineup that June 17:
2B Theriot
3B Baker
CF Byrd
1B D-Lee
RF Nady
LF Soriano
C Soto
SS Castro
P Randy Wells
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 07, 2019, 07:22:23 pm
Today is the anniversary of the Mongo game. MLBN just showed highlights, including Angel calling Coomer out at home, which sparked the incident, Mongo’s stretch, where he gave his “speaks” speech and blew kisses to Angel, and the lengthy rundown which provided the game winning run.

That was great TV.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on August 12, 2019, 06:20:28 pm
August 12, 2018

https://youtu.be/DI8uH4_pzeo
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on August 12, 2019, 09:25:28 pm
I’ve been a Cubs fan since ‘75 or so, and that’s easily a top 3 moment for me, and maybe top 2 if I thought about it for a bit.

And I’ll never get tired of watching it...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on August 19, 2019, 10:00:57 am
50 years ago today

https://youtu.be/G6yjInZ88YA
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on August 19, 2019, 10:05:53 am
The famous catch that Billy Williams made to preserve the no-hitter

https://youtu.be/Jg67D6s2OjI
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Jes Beard on August 19, 2019, 12:31:41 pm
My uncle took me to the game the next day.  Loads of scorecards were still in the seats from that game, which is the only time I ever saw a game a Wrigley where the seats has not been swept clean of the prior day's newspapers and scorecards.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on August 28, 2019, 01:02:53 pm
Wrigley Field in the 1932 World Series

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDENc1aUEAAvmZG.jpg:small)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: CurtOne on August 28, 2019, 01:07:19 pm
Davep is in the foreground playing craps on the sidewalk.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 06, 2019, 12:28:17 pm
50 years ago on Monday - from the batboy’s interesting perspective

(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1169955294979530752/Nr4i5sDn?format=jpg&name=600x314)

https://www.si.com/mlb/2019/09/06/chicago-cubs-new-york-mets-black-cat?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sinow&xid=socialflow_twitter_si&utm_source=twitter.com
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 11, 2019, 03:05:30 pm
OldTimeHardball‏  @OldTimeHardball 18h 18 hours ago
Chicago #Cubs legendary (feel free to #google) ballgirl, Marla Collins......and Hall of Famer Joe Morgan also appears in the shot (ha!) @TheCCO

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEJZGlzVUAAIo7j.jpg:small)



One of Harry Caray's most memorable quotes:
https://www.drodd.com/images6/Harry-Marla%20Collins.mp3



Thinking of Joe Morgan - Anybody heard from Scoop lately?
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: DelMarFan on September 11, 2019, 05:59:42 pm
Greenberg's piece on the 2012 Cubs in The Athletic is outstanding:  https://theathletic.com/1190612/2019/09/11/there-might-be-gold-at-the-end-of-the-fricking-rainbow-but-youre-still-losing-every-day-remembering-the-2012-cubs/
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 21, 2019, 10:08:39 am
ChicagoCubsOnline  @TheCCO  2h2 hours ago
On this date in 1997, Ryne Sandberg went 2-3 in his final game at Wrigley Field.

Sandberg was lifted in 5th for a pinch-runner & made a curtain call while Harry Caray sang the 7th inning stretch, at what turned out to be the last time.

#Cubs beat Curt Schilling, #Phillies 11-3.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 21, 2019, 10:19:15 am
ChicagoCubsOnline  @TheCCO  2h2 hours ago
On this date in 1997, Ryne Sandberg went 2-3 in his final game at Wrigley Field.

Sandberg was lifted in 5th for a pinch-runner & made a curtain call while Harry Caray sang the 7th inning stretch, at what turned out to be the last time.

#Cubs beat Curt Schilling, #Phillies 11-3.
I had to look it up.  The pinch-runner was Miguel Cairo.

Lance Johnson, Mark Grace, Dave Hansen, and Jose Hernandez homered.  Kevin Tapani was the winning pitcher.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on September 21, 2019, 01:28:34 pm
My wife’s favorite story to tell...

After the 4th inning ended, she asked me to go get her a beer. I figured there was plenty of time, so I went.

The Phillies must have made their 3 outs on 4-5 pitches, because the Cubs came up for the bottom of the 5th, and I was still in line.

Now I’m ticked, because I’m gonna miss Ryno at bat...predictably, he bangs one off the wall for a double. Not so predictably, he exits the game for a pinch runner, gets a huge standing O...and I’m listening from the damn concourse.

So of course I get back with her beer, and she starts telling me this great story about what I missed, and all I can think about is dumping a full beer on her head...

She loves this story to this day...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 21, 2019, 01:49:04 pm
Great story, Dave.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: davep on September 21, 2019, 02:26:33 pm
all I can think about is dumping a full beer on her head...

It's never too late.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 21, 2019, 06:14:46 pm
Dave

September 21, 1997  Cubs vs Phillies  Top of the 5th

Kevin Tapani retired the bottom of the order on 6 pitches.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN199709210.shtml
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on September 21, 2019, 07:29:11 pm
Until today, I never knew that this was also Harry’s last home game...so we were there the last time he sang TMOTTBG at Wrigley...so that’s pretty cool...
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 23, 2019, 03:04:16 pm
13:25 video titled  Loudest Moment at Wrigley Field

“They’re clearing space out on Sheffield for the David Bote statue”

Save the link and watch it later when you can sit back and enjoy it

https://youtu.be/H1AGmUQ8Zms?list=PLHPY5IEg0FYyrf-ukkxEDPMFOwDZwB8rZ
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Dave23 on September 26, 2019, 08:40:26 pm
3 years ago tonight...it’ll never get old...

https://www.facebook.com/Cubs/videos/10154328841190659?sfns=mo
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Robb on September 26, 2019, 09:42:40 pm
David Ross for manager, John Lackey for pitching coach.
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 30, 2019, 01:25:00 pm
Christopher Kamka  @ckamka   17h17 hours ago
#Cubs last pitch thrown by year
(Joe Maddon Era)

2015: Héctor Rondón
2016: Mike Montgomery*
2017: Mike Montgomery
2018: Justin Wilson
2019: Ben Zobrist

*Golden Pitch
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on September 30, 2019, 01:58:59 pm
What is Golden Pitch?
A term in baseball used to reference a rare situation in which a pitch being thrown in the World Series is one where the winner and loser of the World Series could be determined by one swing of the bat.

Sporting Charts explains Golden Pitch
For example, in Game 7 of the 2014 World Series between the San Francisco Giants and Kansas City Royals, each of the six pitches that Madison Bumgarner threw to Salvador Perez could have produced a World Series championship for the Royals (had Perez hit a home run) or the Giants (had the hit resulted in an out or strikeout).

Golden Pitch situations have only occurred in a total of eight times during a World Series:

1912
1926
1962
1972
1997
2001
2014
2016
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on November 02, 2019, 02:06:06 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIYGRuDXYAACnqr.jpg:small)
Title: Re: Cubs History
Post by: Bennett on November 04, 2019, 10:27:50 am
Wrigley Aerials  @WrigleyAerials  2h2 hours ago
Oh the gorgeous fall colors of Grant Park, 3 years ago today.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIiV76kWsAAi9do.jpg:small)