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General Category => Chicago Bears Forum => Topic started by: Dave23 on September 10, 2015, 10:14:52 am
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Who got arrested? Who wrecked their car? Who got suspended for drugs?
Actual football can be discussed here as well...
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RGIII drama here in DC.
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Always
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I'll guess ew don't see those blockbuster draft trades for QB's for awhile.
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In a recent report done by the Wall Street Journal, there is a growing sentiment among the NFL coaches and executives that the once deep pool of quality quarterbacks is drying up. The reason? Many of those in college aren’t being taught lessons they will have to learn in the pros.
This year, according to separate interviews with dozens of NFL coaches and executives, something disturbing happened in these pre-draft quiz sessions. When asked the same basic questions, many quarterback prospects responded with something NFL insiders said they have never seen before: blank stares.
Detroit Lions offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi said the new crop of college quarterbacks were flummoxed by a simple question about an “under” front, one of the most common defensive alignments. “Whoa, no one’s ever told me ‘front’ before,” he remembers one prospect saying. “No one’s ever talked to me about reading these defenses.”
This is leading to a general fear that there will be a significant drop off sooner than later in quality quarterback play, which can spell big trouble for the league. It means something may have to change. Either college programs must try to incorporate more pro-style offenses rather than the rampant spread attacks so many use. A true reassessment must be made about the possibility of a minor league where players can be better prepped for the pro game.
Or the time has come for the NFL to embrace new idea. As in the men who field them, specifically the coaches.
In some ways the process has already begun with the arrival of Chip Kelly to the Philadelphia Eagles. His fast-paced attacks were legendary at Oregon and the scheme is still creating huge outbursts of yards and points even as the personnel keep changing. With him setting the trend, could the door be open for other innovators like him?
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The Bills are punking the Colts...
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Haha - and all the "experts" had the Colts cruising to the Super Bowl
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Not against that Bills defense.
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Wow. Look how bad the Broncos are now that Fox is gone. Yikes!
Elway sure **** up.
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Unbelievable finish to the Denver/KC game. Denver ties the game on a TD with about 30 ticks left and kicks off to KC who fumbles on the first play and run in for a TD 31-24 Denver.
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Unbelievable finish to the Denver/KC game. Denver ties the game on a TD with about 30 ticks left and kicks off to KC who fumbles on the first play and run in for a TD 31-24 Denver.
NFL **** baby. WE should be there.
BEARRSSE !!
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Of course right after I posted that after watching Manning and the broncos suck for over 5 quarters they finally start to play like a football team again.
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John Fox's coaching record in the NFL without Peyton Manning as QB?
81-81
Wayne Fontes anyone?
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Let's see, what is McCarthy's record without Rodgers or Holmgren's record without Favre?
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No kidding, Nav....talk about Lions, lol....it would be ugly....
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Tonight's game ... Indy & NYJ's ... who tops this ?
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Cassel traded to the Cowboys
Posted by Mike Florio on September 22, 2015, 6:38 PM EDT
Matt Cassel
AP
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Tuesday morning you won’t see a more gifted passer than Brandon Weeden. But Jones is apparently willing to look at whether to let his eyes wander.
With limited options in free agency and no apparent interest in signing Christian Ponder, Josh Johnson, or Matt Flynn (all of whom worked out for the Cowboys on Tuesday), Dallas has acquired Matt Cassel from the Bills.
Buffalo dumped Cassel and his $4 million-plus base salary before the start of the season, re-signing him for $2 million. Whatever the Bills received, it was enough to persuade them to go with Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel as their two main options.
Cassel’s arrival necessarily puts a little heat on Weeden, as Rodney Harrison noted during the final moments of Pro Football Talk on NBCSN. That could rattle the guy whom Jones praised, causing the former first-rounder of the Browns to look over his shoulder instead of focusing on the task at hand.
Either way, it’s Weeden and Cassel until Tony Romo returns from a broken collarbone — or until Weeden or Cassel are injured or dumped.
UPDATE 7:02 p.m. ET: PFT has confirmed that the trade is done.
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Good trade for all involved...Cowboys, Bills and most importantly Cassel.
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Good trade for all involved...Cowboys, Bills and most importantly Cassel.
Somewhere out in the mist floats REX GROSSMAN ...
BEARRSSE may need a backup ...
We've come this far ... to get this far ... >:( :P :'( :o
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Claussen as a backup is OK. As a starter long term...nope.
Some article I read the other day said that now Fox is reunited with his old QB from Carolina...where do they come up with this crap?
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Wouldn't that just be bizarre if they did go get Grossman, lol......hey, the kid got us to the big dance. Couldn't hold on to the football to save his life, but hey....lol
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Wouldn't that just be bizarre if they did go get Grossman, lol......hey, the kid got us to the big dance. Couldn't hold on to the football to save his life, but hey....lol
Sporty ,
I'm tired of us kicking ourselves in the balls going up against an 0-2 team.
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Might as well get used to it, JJ. We are the NFL's punching bag this season.....anyone can come up and take their shots and we just take the beating. We are the low guy on the totem pole....where the dogs come along and whizz...
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If it's any consolation both the teams that beat us are undefeated and we're playoff teams last year. And up next is the NFC's SB participant.
Bears just need to take their lumps Sunday, then get Cutler and Jeffery back and win a game.
I'm getting tired of being in an ornery mood on Sundays...and so is my family.
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My wife wont even watch any part of a game with me. Unfortunately I don't see any improvement coming any time soon.....
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I didn't even expect to have any shot at a win until the Raiders. I think some of your expectations were to high.
I suspect the team will get better as the season goes on and we might even feel a bit optimistic about next season by week 16. Well at least I keep telling myself that.
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Um, because Jarred Allen is going to start playing better? My hope is they sit him MUCH more and let anyone else play....
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Allen is going to collect his money whether he sits or plays
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My wife is proud of me that I haven't been getting angry after Bears losses. Last year I was super ticked at the way they played. This year I went into the season expecting very little so I'm not surprised when it happens. I just tell her they have not got the horses to compete so to expect that somehow they will is ridiculous. It still isn't easy to see them get beat like a drum and this weekend will be no different. I don't want to watch but I do want to watch. Silly, really. Maybe I'm just a glutton for punishment.... I do still have Notre Dame and they're doing very well, so that's kept me sane so far....
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While ND has been successful I haven't been satisfied they are unbeatable. To me they have been very "lucky".
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They have a very good defense, but the injuries have been unsettling. I'd have given them as good a shot this year as any team when they were healthy. Now it's a deal of they're doing well, but when will the next axe fall?? Who's going down next?
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I am not sold on their defense. They have given up way too many points to acclaim their defense good.
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That would make sense given "luck of the Irish" and all that. However, you look at that pass td in the ala miss game and realize that other teams are lucky too. Hope the domers do well and the cubs and
the Bears but am not going to put much stock in it.
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John Fox's coaching record in the NFL without Peyton Manning as QB?
81-81
Wayne Fontes anyone?
- Otter
Records With and Without A Quarterback: Aaron Rodgers Edition
by CHASE STUART on DECEMBER 14, 2013
Green Bay started the season 5-2 and seemed on its way to another playoff berth. But in the first quarter of the team’s eighth game, Aaron Rodgers broke his collarbone. The Packers lost that game (technically on Rodgers’ ledger as the starter), and have struggled ever since. In his stead, Seneca Wallace went 0-1, Scott Tolzien went 0-1-1, and then Matt Flynn got a chance to lose on Thanksgiving against the Lions before salvaging a win against the Falcons last Sunday.
Unsurprisingly, Green Bay is much worse without Rodgers. Using his .625 winning percentage as a starter this year, we might presume that the Packers would have won 3.125 out of the team’s five games that he’s missed. Instead, Green Bay has won 1.5 out of five games; that means Rodgers would have provided 1.625 Wins Above the Other QBs on the roster. (If we did not count the Bears game as a Rodgers game, then Rodgers would have provided 2.79 Wins Above the Other QBs.) Rodgers has been ruled out for the Packers’ pivotal week 15 showdown with the Cowboys; a loss there would bring Rodgers’ value up to 2.25 Wins Above the Other Green Bay QBs.
Where does that rank all time? The biggest discrepancy belongs to the 2002 Rams. The Rams started 0-4 under reigning NFL AP MVP Kurt Warner, and then lost the team’s next game when Jamie Martin started in relief of an injured Warner. For the sixth game, the team turned to Marc Bulger, who led the 0-5 team on a five game winning streak before suffering a finger injury just as the starting quarterback was ready to return. Warner started games 11 and 12, but another injury forced Martin started game 13; St. Louis lost all three games. Bulger then returned and won his 14th start. At that point in the year, St. Louis was 6-0 under Bulger and 0-8 under everyone else. In game 15 against Seattle, Bulger was hurt on the St. Louis’ fourth play from scrimmage; Martin came in and the team lost 30-10. The final game of the year was a meaningless one and started by Scott Covington, although Martin took most of the snaps in a victory over the 49ers.
All told, St. Louis went 6-1 in Bulger starts (including the Seahawks game), while the other Rams quarterbacks posted a 1-8 record. Since we would project a 1-8 team to win just 0.78 out of 7 games, Bulger is given credit for being 5.22 Wins Above the Other QBs for the team.
The table below shows all quarterbacks from 1950 to 2013 to produce at least 2 Wins Above the Other QBs for their team. The formula to calculate WAOQBs is simply the difference between the winning percentages with and without the starting quarterback multiplied by the number of starts by the quarterback or by the other quarterbacks on the team, whichever number is smaller.
They were talking on the radio today how none of the ball clubs are developing their backup QB's. They were talking how the NFL as a whole needs to do a better job...
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Scott Tolzien and Brett Hundley are in good hands.
- Otter
In his stead, Seneca Wallace went 0-1, Scott Tolzien went 0-1-1, and then Matt Flynn got a chance to lose on Thanksgiving against the Lions before salvaging a win against the Falcons last Sunday.
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https://youtu.be/pAs6TDLuKgQ (https://youtu.be/pAs6TDLuKgQ)
Otter
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johnbill
A couple of things for context.
1) Seneca Wallace sucked and was out of GB after the season.
2) Scott Tolzien was out of football when GB picked him up. He was not ready to be inserted as starter and it showed. Since then GB's coaching staff has coached him up and in 2015 had a very good preseason.
3) Matt Flynn benefited greatly from the coaching up at GB.
Both of our backup QB's could step in today and produce better results than the back up status in 2013.
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While ND has been successful I haven't been satisfied they are unbeatable. To me they have been very "lucky".
UVA should've beaten them..
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I felt that way too
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I like it when we **** things up.
THAT'S CHICAGO BEARS !!
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(http://rdcnewscdn.realtor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/0415-devin-hester-chicago-bears-mansion-photos-1.jpg.)
Devin Hester's 2.6 MM home for sale. Any takers?
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Mike Pennel becoming fixture on defense
Mike Spofford
Second-year defensive lineman did his job vs. Seahawks
GREEN BAY – Week 2 provided some redemption for Packers defensive lineman Mike Pennel.
Pulled early from the opener in Chicago – his first NFL start – when Bears running back Matt Forte got rolling, Pennel made up for it last Sunday. Along with veteran linemen B.J. Raji and Mike Daniels, Pennel played his part in holding Seattle’s Marshawn Lynch to just 41 yards on 15 carries.
Pennel held his ground when needed and got penetration into the backfield when called for, staying within the scheme better as he was credited with three tackles, including one for loss on Lynch. He also had one QB pressure...
NT of the future.
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Otter -
John Fox's coaching record in the NFL without Peyton Manning as QB?
81-81
Wayne Fontes anyone?
- Otter
Your point was Fox without Manning.
My post was; what is McCarthy's record without Rodgers? Not the capabilities of the QB's that replaced him.
The morale of the story is people in glass houses should not throw stones.
https://youtu.be/pAs6TDLuKgQ (https://youtu.be/pAs6TDLuKgQ)
Otter
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Fox has taken two teams (0-2) to the Superbowl, and McCarthy one (1-0).
McCarthy has a 7-6 playoff record.
Fox has a 8-7 record.
With two hall of fame quarterbacks, you would think that MCcarthy would have won more than he has. Manning was the first QB with any pedigree, and at the end of his line. Outside of his peak. You could make the same argument that Favre was not at his best, but he has had Rodgers for what, 6 years?
Mittens...
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Griz- now you know you'll just confuse otto with factual numbers..
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http://lombardiave.com/2015/10/04/don-barclay-david-bakhtiari-have-been-less-than-spectacular/?utm_source=FanSided&utm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=NextPost
Check out these O Line ratings. These guys have gone nuts.
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I was hoping to see the Denver/Queen game but it wasn't televised here.
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I enjoy fantasy football but I hate that the NFLN is so much about fantasy football now and less about real football.
I just heard one of the announcers get all bent out of shape on the Calvin Johnson fumble because it was "an 8 point swing" ....."20,000 fans may have lost their games due to that fumble".
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Same here - my fantasies have nothing to do with NFL football
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Same here - my fantasies have nothing to do with NFL football
"rimshot".....
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Fantasy football is huge. Never used to see commercials about it but now there are. Even the android site I'm on has a eliminator challenge (which I'm winning so far 8) ) and a lot of these people are tech nerds who have to be told what a football looks like, lol. It's crazy....
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Even though I have no interest in fantasy football I'm Glad to see their ads replacing all the ones for ****/Cialis. Kind of awkward if the family is watching a game.
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Those are still there - but more subtle with the young **** lady wearing a fake Cowboys jersey...
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That ****'s funny as hell...
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I liked the commercial when the Italian guy's **** pill lands in the Fiat's gas tank.
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....and the Fiat gets a stiff. ;D
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Gee, ya think the 9ers miss Fangio?? They are like right behind us in points allowed. Our D is improving. Not leaps and bounds improving but it's hard to expect good wine from cheap grapes.
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Think they miss Patrick Willis more than Fangio...
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Bears have the 4th ranked NFL defense. We're just not getting the turnovers.
Any word on McClellin's status?
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What, no McCown talk this week? I'm glad to see him land in Cleveland, looks like he found a home. I think he's an all around decent guy and a team player. He knows his career is about over, but he's out there having fun. He can thank the Bears for reviving his career.
Now, how about some Clausen talk, "that mother fucker can take a hike".... I hope we don't have to witness that POS on the field again..
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Its too bad we don't have McCown as a backup for Jay.
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McCown got 5 mill/yr from Tampa to be their starter. The Bears weren't going to pay a backup that kind of money. I don't begrudge McCown the money but as fragile as Cutler or as weak as our OLine protects.... maybe it would have been smarter to pay the extra money and kept McCown. He and Cutler got along well too.
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Is it just me or are the Seahawks missing Dan Quinn more than they admit. He has Atlanta at 5-0.
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Always glad when we can help someone get this:
The Lions became the last team in the NFL to win a game when they beat the Bears in Week Six and they did it with a lot of help from wide receiver Calvin Johnson.
Johnson caught six passes for 166 yards and caught a six-yard touchdown pass with 21 seconds to play to put the Lions up 34-31. The Bears would rally for a game-tying field goal, but Johnson’s 57-yard catch in overtime set the Lions up for Matt Prater’s game-winning kick.
As a result of his exploits, Johnson has been named the NFC’s offensive player of the week. It’s the fourth time that Johnson has been so honored, leaving him behind only Barry Sanders for most among Lions players.
Johnson’s performance was his best of a 2015 season that saw him average less than 10 yards per catch between the second and fourth weeks of the season. Getting more games like it would be a significant boost to the Lions’ chances of adding to their win total in the weeks to come.
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Martellus would have won it if he didn't have butterfingers on those TD drops
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Who could BEARS beat in the bye week ?
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The Washington Generals????
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With or without Falco?
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LOL, Lovie should be fired tomorrow. What a buffoon.
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I know, if I'm not mistaken, they were up 24 to nothing, and lost... WTF.. I told my wife, typical Lovie team..
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Sitting here watching the Panthers vs Eagles. Rivera has that team playing solidly. And I'm noticing there's a former Bear...there's another former Bear....and another former Bear.... Makes it hard to stomach the mess the Bears are in. Will this team ever get it together?
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I know, if I'm not mistaken, they were up 24 to nothing, and lost... WTF.. I told my wife, typical Lovie team..
My wife is a Bucs fan. We watched them blow the lead, but only to be up by 3 points, the ball inside Washington's 10 yard line and they have just gotten stuffed on 3rd down. The commentators start saying it looks like Smith is leaving them in on 4th down, and I said finally Lovie has learned. 2:40 left to go and they are going to go for it on 4th down, up by 3. Then Lovie changes his mind to kick the FG. I told my wife they are going to regret that decision. Too much time on the clock and now you are forcing Washington to be aggressive and push the ball down the field.
In that situation, I would rather go for it on 4th down, and if you get the touchdown great, if you get stopped you have Washington starting inside their own 10 with 2 minutes to go. They will likely play it more conservatively going for the tie. Sure enough, they kick the FG and then watch the Redskins drive right down the field and score with 24 seconds to go. I was almost "Bears" pissed off at that result. I knew it was going to happen.
If I was up by 1 or 2 points, I would have kicked, but to be up 3 and a TD can still beat you. Just a poor call.
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Sitting here watching the Panthers vs Eagles. Rivera has that team playing solidly. And I'm noticing there's a former Bear...there's another former Bear....and another former Bear.... Makes it hard to stomach the mess the Bears are in. Will this team ever get it together?
You mean all of the Bears that we didn't want on the team anymore? Yah...
Let's look back see who wanted Olson gone, and who said Peanut was done, etc... I will say I wanted the Bears to keep Tillman, but was meh on Olson. So many fumbles with the Bears, but he had a pretty good chemistry with Cutler. Who we also want gone, I know. I actually like Bennett over Olson, though not sure why he is dropping so many recently
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If they didn't go elsewhere and play better it wouldn't be a issue....Peppers, anyone?....
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Allen is playing in a 4-3 scheme and most likely surrounded by better personnel.
Olsen is playing about the same as he did with the Bears - prior regime just didn't want to pay him when his rookie contract ended. I'll take Bennett any day.
Tillman couldn't stay healthy with the Bears the last 2 years - they supposedly drafted his replacement in Fuller and didn't want to pay Tillman who also was a FA.
Peppers 2014 season was similar to what he had with the Bears for about 4 seasons prior - however this year he's having a great season.
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Peppers and Allen gone before their time???
Take a look at the way the patriots do business then tell me those were bad moves.
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Peppers still had some gas left in the tank, but he just wasn't motivated/trying. That is what pisses me off about him. Allen, meh, he is running on fumes.
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Allen's a 4-3 guy..
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Peppers still had some gas left in the tank, but he just wasn't motivated/trying. That is what pisses me off about him.
Agreed. I can't recall the specifics but in 2013 MORE than half of his games he had a single tackle or less. He had that rep in Carolina of not playing with motivation but we never saw it until 2013 with the Bears.
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I was going to say the same thing. He had that reputation in Carolina. I believe he didn't care for Lovie being let go..
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Peppers mailed it in the last year as a Bear for sure. Hope in likes the money he made . Foot seems fine now doesn't it?
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I actually like the fact those players were let go. Made me reminisce when we were good, though. Olsen, Tillman, Peppers were all impact players at one time. We have very few of those left anymore. Allen was a gimme. He wasn't doing jack and I think he's pretty much done regardless where he's at. Peppers was a jerk. He had some left and held it back more than likely like was said...because Lovie was let go... Tillman just couldn't stay healthy.
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Peppers just needed real a football organization to play for with quality coaches and players.
Winning also helps the desire.
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I'd bet Butkus wasn't on too many winning teams - nobody every questioned his desire.
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Broncos trade for 49ers tight end Vernon Davis, give up draft picks.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25361569/broncos-trade-for-49ers-tight-end-vernon-davis-in-exchange-for-draft-picks
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they basically gave him away
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Statistically he's had a huge drop off since 2013. Is that due to the problems at QB for the 49ers or that Davis is now 31?
Change of scenery should help him but when guys get around that 30 year old mark (including Brandon Marshall) the high draft picks are harder to pry away for them.
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Wow the Lions just fired their president and GM.
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Well they are underperforming badly, so it's hard to fault the owner for doing it. You have the talent and yet are playing worse than the Bears. Something had to be done...
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funny thing is the GM is supposed to draft talent, and they have. They just can't seem to win. I guess they keep hiring the wrong coaches.
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Did the hiring of Caldwell inspire anyone?
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This POS should be banned from the NFL for life:
It was a lot easier for Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to declare defensive end Greg Hardy a “real leader,” and brush aside concerns about his previous domestic violence arrest, because there was no visual to go with the charges.
And while it might not be as viscerally jarring as a videotape of Ray Rice punching his wife in the face, we now have more evidence of what happened between Hardy and his former girlfriend in Charlotte
Deadspin has published a gallery of photos of Nicole Holder, showing her injuries from the incident in May 2014. There are a number of shots of large bruises on her back, along with injuries to her arms and legs and feet. The photos were part of evidence that was sealed during his trial.
He was convicted by a judge in Charlotte, but the case was thrown out on appeal after Holder didn’t appear in court, following a civil settlement. The charges were expunged from the record this week.
Hardy was initially suspended 10 games by the league for violating the league’s personal conduct policy, but that was eventually shortened to four.
If the NFL had access to the photos published today, it helps explain commissioner Roger Goodell’s going hard with the initial punishment, after the embarrassment of initially suspending Rice two games.
http://deadspin.com/this-is-why-nfl-star-greg-hardy-was-arrested-for-assaul-1739117634?trending_test_e&utm_expid=66866090-62.H_y_0o51QhmMY_tue7bevQ.5&utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fprofootballtalk.nbcsports.com%2F2015%2F11%2F06%2Fphotos-of-greg-hardy-domestic-assualt-victim-emerge%2F
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This guy was out for all those games last year but he was drawing full pay. Something like 13 million. That is what he used to pay off the GF to not testify against him.
The arbitrator reduced the suspension from 10 games to 4. Disgusting.
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Here are 10 defensive players who didn’t crack our list this time around but certainly could by season’s end. They are listed in team alphabetical team order.
OLB Pernell McPhee, Chicago Bears: In his first season with the Bears, the former Baltimore Ravens performer ranks second on the team with 35 tackles and first on the club with five sacks. Under defensive coordinator Vic Fangio, Chicago ranks ninth in the NFL in fewest yards allowed per game, and McPhee has has been an ideal addition.
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Yeap gotta give our young GM some credit McPhee good pick up and besides White's injury our draft picks seem to be panning out. Maybe just maybe we can turn this thing around somewhat quickly.
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I agree, I was finally able to finish the SD game last night. Amos and our youn linebackers did pretty well. Langford impressed me. He might be a little fast than Forte.
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Saw Giants got robbed of a TD - reminded me of Golden Tate and the TD/INT that the refs reviewed and gave the TD to the Lions instead of INT to the Bears
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Is the FOX effect kicking in when it comes to CHICAGO BEARS ?
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http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/Jeff-Janis-Getting-more-comfortable/b01d3b8a-4507-4e14-96b9-1f30ae414d9a
Jef and Jared. Hope they can get in and break out this against Detroit.
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Who is KEVIN WHITE and why is he doing this to us ?
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Cant say JJ, Call Ripley's
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I'm loving this Lions/GB game. Keep it up Lions. 17-0 Lions after 1st.
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And playing the role of the Chicago Cubs tonight will be the Detroit Lions. Playing the St. Louis Cardinals will be the Green bay Packers.
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I didn't see the play, but reading that there was not a grab of the facemask, and it should not have been a penalty. Anyone see this play? I am sure the Pack got away with a ton of other penalties, but if the refs gave them one last chance for a hail mary, that is criminal.
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It was a pretty obvius face mask.
When the tacklers hand is on the face mask and urns the head its an easy call.
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The face mask was clearly not grabbed. The Lion player grazed the mask and then grabbed the shoulder pad to make the tackle.
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The face mask was clearly not grabbed. The Lion player grazed the mask and then grabbed the shoulder pad to make the tackle.
That is what I read. So more preferential treatment for the star QB.
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Don't get how you cannot see his thumb in the face mask and Rogers head turned.
It doesn't matter that most of his hand was on the shoulder pad.
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His thumb grazed the face mask and Rodgers did a good job selling it. I wouldn't say it was a bad call at full speed. I could also see it being a non call.
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I think the rule says you have to grab the face mask and not let go. Rodgers sold it..
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I can't blame the refs for the call. The Lion defender really flings Rodgers down pretty hard and there was contact with the facemask even if it was by a finger.
Has anyone mentioned that Rodgers had already completed a forward pass to start the play and that his only option was to run or lateral?
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The Falcons returned wide receiver/kick returner Devin Hester to the 53-man roster, just in time for Hester to play on Sunday in the team’s first game since he became eligible to return from injured reserve with the designation to return.
Hester has not played at all this season because of a toe injury, which led the Falcons to rule him out of several games before going ahead with taking the step of placing him on injured reserve. Wide receiver Roddy White suggested this week that the Falcons need to make more deep throws, which could offer a role for Hester on offense in addition to a presumed return to return duties for the NFL’s all-time leader in return touchdowns.
To clear space for Hester on the roster, the Falcons have placed wide receiver Leonard Hankerson on injured reserve. Hankerson missed last week’s game with a hamstring injury and missed three of the last four games overall.
Hankerson had 26 catches for 327 yards and three touchdowns this season, his first with the Falcons, and is set to be a free agent come 2016.
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Boogie,
Frisco ... how do you see our odds?
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Everyone is picking the Bears to win. Which means they will probably lose.
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Everyone is picking the Bears to win. Which means they will probably lose.
Against Frisco Duck ?
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Jackie, I would like to think we build on what we did against GB, along with the revenge against SFO, and kick some ass. As long as they don't get too cocky and start reading the press clippings I think we should win....fingers crossed. Otherwise it is going to be a lot of beer drinking on sunday to ease the pain. ;)
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Jackie, I would like to think we build on what we did against GB, along with the revenge against SFO, and kick some ass. As long as they don't get too cocky and start reading the press clippings I think we should win....fingers crossed. Otherwise it is going to be a lot of beer drinking on sunday to ease the pain. ;)
Nuff said Boogie ! >:( We need to draft QUALITY SECONDARY!
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Is this the worst MNF game ever?
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Yeah, I only watched part of it because I needed Morris to get 4 points. He got 1. How does one go from one of the best backs in the league to no impact.
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I turned it on late in the 3Q with the score 3 to 3 - turned out to be a pretty good game towards the end.
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That's one sorry division, 3 out of 4 teams tied for 1st at 5 and 7.. WTF
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True and one of them makes the playoffs.
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Who is KEVIN WHITE and why is he doing this to us ?
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Money for nothing and...
Check back in a couple weeks.
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Graduation in Detroit
Joe played high school football in Detroit. He was a great running back, but a really poor student. At graduation, he didn't have enough credits. But he was a great football star and the students held a rally and demanded the principal give him a diploma anyway. They were so insistent that the principal agreed that if Joe could answer one question correctly he would give him a diploma.
The one question test was held in the auditorium and all the students packed the place. It was standing room only. The principal was on the stage and told him to come up. Diploma in hand, the principal said: "Joe, if you can answer this one question correctly I'll give you your diploma."
"Joe, how much is three times seven?" Joe looked up at the ceiling and then down at his shoes, pondering the question. The other students began chanting, "Graduate him anyway! Graduate him anyway!"
Then Joe held up his hand and the auditorium became silent. He said, "I think I know the answer. Three times seven is twenty-one."
A hush fell over the auditorium and then all the other students began to chant:
"Give him another chance! Give him another chance!"
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NFC LEAST could be won by a 6-10 team...
That is today's NFL.
It’s still possible one of the three NFC East teams tied for first place at 5-7 will get hot down the stretch and finish with a winning record, rendering moot all the current jokes about how stinky the division is.
It’s also possible, on the other hand, that all four teams in the NFC East could finish tied at 6-10. This wouldn’t be ideal for Redskins fans, but it would be kind of amazing for the culture at large.
And when you do the math, you’ll find that this isn’t some far-fetched internet fantasy that would require several giant leaps of imagination, if you’ll pardon the pun. This is all cold, harsh, black-and-white realism. This could happen. This could be our future.
Take a quick look (all references to point spreads taken from Wednesday’s lines):
Week 14
Washington loses at Chicago
New York loses at Miami
Philadelphia loses to Buffalo at home
Dallas loses at Green Bay
Realism: Medium-high. The Redskins are 0-5 on the road this season and will be underdogs by about a field goal against the Bears. Dallas will be large underdogs at Lambeau. Philadelphia is actually a slight underdog at home and has a tendency to follow excellence with misery. Only the Giants result would require an upset, and they’re favored by less than a field goal at Miami on Monday night. Plus, the Giants have lost three straight and appear to be reeling. I’m not saying all four NFC East teams will lose this week, but it certainly wouldn’t be a shock. And it would leave a three-way tie for first at 5-8, with Dallas still a game behind.
Week 15
Washington beats Buffalo at home
New York loses to Carolina at home
Philadelphia loses to Arizona at home
Dallas beats the Jets at home
Realism: Medium. The Redskins are 5-2 at home; there’s no reason they can’t beat the Bills in Landover. I’d actually expect either New York or Philadelphia to win, but they’re facing the NFC’s two best teams, which are a combined 12-1 on the road. As long as Cam Newton and Carson Palmer are playing, both teams should be favored. Who knows what’s going on with Dallas, but a Cowboys home win over the Jets wouldn’t be among the 20 most surprising results of this season. These results would leave Washington 6-8, and the other three teams tied at 5-9.
Week 16
Washington loses at Philadelphia
New York loses at Minnesota
Dallas loses at Buffalo
Realism: High. If I asked you to predict these three games at this moment, these would probably be your predictions. Washington has been dreadful on the road. The Vikings have been consistently better than the Giants. And Matt Cassel visiting Buffalo in late December doesn’t sound super promising. Plus we now only need three games to go the right way instead of four. These results would have Washington and Philadelphia tied at 6-9, and New York and Dallas tied at 5-10.
Week 17
Washington loses at Dallas
Philadelphia loses at New York
Realism: High. Again, nothing that we think will happen in the NFL actually happens, but if you had to predict these two games right this minute, you’d be sorely tempted to take the two home teams, despite New York’s blowout loss in Philly earlier this year. And the two home teams winning in the season’s final week would make Washington 6-10, Philadelphia 6-10, New York 6-10 and Dallas 6-10. The perfect storm of garbage. The sitting-standings. The immaculate recession. Or whatever.
According to ESPN’s playoff machine, such a four-way tie would be won by Dallas based on head-to-head win percentage. But really, we would all be winners. Or losers.
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Man one thing I learned to do with the NFL is not predict the future.
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So where else do you predict the future?
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So where else do you predict the future?
At that side street off the beaten path in CHICAGO ...
where strangers come for answers from a crystal ball ...
yes ... DITKA has been here.
DITKA : "crystal ball ... will DAA BEARSSE win a SUPERBOWL while I am coach ?"
Crystal ball ... NO.
Ok da crystal ball was wrong on that one. Hey ... it happens. :o
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I think that was a magic 8 ball...
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Id be happy with anyone but the Redskins..
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Looks like the Panthers are for real. They could win it all.
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I hope the Panthers do go all the way. One to shut up those douche bag dolphins. Plus Rivera deserves it, and Newton has played lights out.
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It will be interesting to see who gets more slobbering time from Buck and Aikman the Fudge Pack or the Boys....
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I hope the Panthers do it as well. A lot of pressure though..
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Lovie could see the writing on the wall after the Superbowl appearance. Rivera was getting too much attention and was a challenge to his position. Off you go Ron. Looks like it turned out fine now for Rivera.
A year ago he was in danger of losing his job, interesting how things change
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Rooting for the Panthers hereout as well....got some Bear connections in there....
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Yeah, being a NC native, I am pulling for them as well.
I still don't trust Can.
The Packers and Seahawks concern me.
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Seahawks, definitely. Think the magic the Pakers had is disappearing quick. They're definitely beatable. Cam has to prove he can get it done in crunch time. He's all flash right now and they could easily be one and done, so he needs to be focused and ready and not all about showboating. It gets real serious in the playoffs real quick....
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Interesting timing:
The Eagles fired Chip Kelly Tuesday night.
A short team release announced that team chairman and CEO Jeffrey Lurie had released Kelly. The team announced a Wednesday press conference.
Pat Shurmur will be the interim coach for Sunday’s season finale.
“We appreciate all the contributions that Chip Kelly made and wish him every success going forward,” Lurie said in the statement.
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Damn. One more place for Gase to traipse off too. Kelly is an ass to grown men earning a living, but I hate to see him launched for that reason.
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46 - May end up seeing Kelly in Tennessee
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Read an article, not sure where and Gase is likely gone. Number 3 candidate based on the writers take and article made some sense as you read through the list. Fangio was not listed, if Gase is going to go would be nice to retain Fangio at least another year.
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Yeah lots of speculation about him going to coach Mariotta at Ten, since he couldn't swing the draft trade.
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Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Finally get a guy who can get inside Cut's head and get some improvement out of him and then bam, he gone. Yeah, that's the Bears....
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Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Finally get a guy who can get inside Cut's head and get some improvement out of him and then bam, he gone. Yeah, that's the Bears....
It doesn't HAVE to be Da Bears NOT making a counter offer for Gase.
They could do it.
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I don't think Fangio is interested in a head coaching gig..
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..and vice verse.
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Agree, he doesn't give the impression of being head coaching material..
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Brandon Marshall misses the playoffs. Jets fans love him now, but just wait...
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Pretty sure they said he's never been to the playoffs..
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What if Marshall is just bad luck for making the playoffs? Kind of like the Sports Illustrated jinx...
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Too bad for Peanut:
The Panthers secured home-field advantage yesterday, but they lost a key part of their secondary.
Panthers coach Ron Rivera told reporters that veteran cornerback Charles Tillman suffered a torn ACL in yesterday’s win over Tampa Bay.
Tillman tried coming back from a partial tear of that ligament, and nearly got through three games before re-injuring himself yesterday.
The move leaves the Panthers down a pair of corners who have started this year, after Bene Benwikere suffered a broken leg.
Now, the Panthers have a pair of guys opposite Josh Norman who were out of work this season — Cortland Finnegan and Robert McClain.
McClain will likely start outside, while Finnegan will continue to cover the slot, as the Panthers proceed into the playoffs.
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What's Jared Allen doing for the Panthers? I don't get their games on TV.
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I don't really watch them much either.
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I checked his stats out yesterday...2 sacks for the year...and he's their starting RDE.
Getting a 6th or 7th rounder for him was a good deal for both teams...well, maybe better for the Bears since they probably get rid of his contract next year.
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Also read that St. Louis, Oakland, and San Diego all want to move to LA. Two of the teams would share a new stadium.
Now why did the Rams and Raiders leave LA in the first place?
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Because there was too much to do besides watch a very,very, expensive nfl game in a falling down stadium. Nothing's changed really. I've read that LA is a Laker Dodgers USC UCLA town, period. But I don't own a football team., so I don't know why they want to go back, other than to somehow make MORE money. You know, 3 billion as opposed to a paltry 2 billion. Hey, a billion dollars doesn't buy what it used to. May as well cave and make the English broadcast the secondary one.
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What's probably happening is the league is pushing for a team(s) to get back to the second largest market in the country. It was silly for the Rams/Raiders to leave if they're simply gonna turn around and head back. Kinda ridiculous....
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I think the problem is folks in LA aren't die hard fans. If the team wins, things are great and the stands are full of all those rich folks. If things are bad, they aren't dedicated to sit in the stands supporting losing seasons. They also already have 3 other teams in Ca so they can pull for someone that is winning.
Seems like there was talk of the Jags moving awhile back. If Miami or TB had better teams, they might pull fans from the Jags.
In Fl, none of the teams are winning :-)
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Kinda funny:
Even though Gus Bradley is safe, you don’t have the kind of record the Jaguars have lately without changes.
The shoe dropped Tuesday, as the team announced defensive coordinator Bob Babich would not return.
The Jaguars were 31st in the league in scoring defense, allowing 28.0 points per game. That overshadowed the progress they made on the other side of the ball, and helps explain a 5-11 record. But it wasn’t a one-year fluke, as the Jaguars have been really bad on defense as long as Bradley has been coaching there.
Babich was previously a defensive coordinator in Chicago with Lovie Smith, who promoted him to that post after getting rid of some guy named Ron Rivera (who could end up winning another coach of the year award soon).
But his fate in Jacksonville was basically sealed when Bradley said he’d “look at” taking over defensive play-calling himself.
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In LA, most of the population was born somewhere else.
Sports fans already have their old NFL team to root for. A Bears game in LA would fill the stadium with Bear fans not Charger/Raider/Ram fans.
I have heard the Charger moving news all year. The owner wants to move because the city hasn't built a new stadium, so the owner isn't making as much as other owners on PSL's luxury boxes and more seats. If he moves to LA the value of the team nearly doubles, and sportswriters speculate he will sell shortly after the move.
The NFL has pronounced there WILL be a team in that market and they want at least one team to make the move.
Personally, I remember when the Rams then the Raiders couldn't draw 35,000 in the seats. What's going to change? I think there's a high probability of crash and burn, even with a shiny new stadium.
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Report: Calvin Johnson cleans out locker, isn’t sure he wants to play
Posted by Mike Florio on January 6, 2016, 7:31 PM EST
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AP
Wednesday’s announcement from Lions receiver Calvin Johnson that an announcement regarding his future is coming seemed complex and curiously timed. But the truth may flow from the simplest explanation.
Johnson genuinely is thinking about retiring from football.
Ed Werder of ESPN, citing an unnamed source, reports that Johnson has cleaned out his locker at the team’s facility, unlike other veteran players. Johnson also reportedly has told his mother that he’s not sure he wants to play.
If he retires, Johnson will owe the Lions $3.2 million in previously-paid signing-bonus money. If he waits out the Lions and refuses to renegotiate a contract that would pay him $15.95 million in salary this season, along with a $24 million cap number, the Lions likely would cut Johnson, allowing him to keep the $3.2 million.
It also would give him the freedom to play for another team, if he changes his mind later.
Either way, Johnson seems to be, at least for now, having real questions about whether he’ll play again. And while the chronic struggles of the Lions may have something to do with that, Johnson also likely realizes that he’s not the guy at age 30 that he was in earlier years. Unless and until he comes to terms with that, it could be hard for him to continue.
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What a waste playing for the Loins. That team hasn't done jack squat since Sanders left 17 yrs ago and the last time they won the Division was
1993!!!
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wow... first Sanders at the peak of his game... and now Calvin at just about that point...
Why didnt the lions petition for new ownership in LA? that might be a better idea...
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Lovie canned
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Bucs fire Lovie Smith
Posted by Zac Jackson on January 6, 2016, 10:29 PM EST
Lovie Smith
AP
The Buccaneers announced the firing of head coach Lovie Smith Wednesday night.
Smith had been the Buccaneers’ head coach for two years. This news comes as a surprise after the Bucs went 6-10 in 2015 while starting rookie quarterback Jameis Winston, the No. 1 pick in last spring’s draft. The Bucs went 2-14 in 2014.
“After careful consideration, we informed Lovie that we have decided to make a change,” Bucs co-chairman Joel Glazer said in a statement. “I want to thank Lovie for his hard work and dedication to the Buccaneers during his time here. This decision was difficult on a variety of levels. I am disappointed that we were not more successful these past few seasons, but we are committed to doing what is necessary to give our fans the winning team they deserve. As we move forward, General Manager Jason Licht will oversee the process for finding our next head coach.”
Smith, 57, was the head coach of the Bears from 2004-12.
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Is this for real ?
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May be the last you see of Lovie as a head coach..
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Radio says they felt the team quit on him on the last 4 days... and were not happy with his game management skills that we left some wins on the field.
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Too bad, I'm sure most were looking for another win over the Bucs next year (3rd in a row) with Lovie at the helm...
Panic move to sign Koetter to HC. Should be interesting though.....
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Good lord. HC's aren't given much time these days are they? 2 yrs max, then BANG! Course, they all can salve the wounds of firing with there millions they still get. Tough gig.
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Well would you really want Lovie to develop your first pick franchise QB??? And I read they fired him over the phone, ouch.
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Texted him?
UR fired LOL
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Well would you really want Lovie to develop your first pick franchise QB???
Actually, Winston had a nice year - threw for over 4000 yards - not many rookie QBs have done that.
And who would want any head coach developing a QB? Much of any head coach's success is due to his assistants and his GM.
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Good lord. HC's aren't given much time these days are they? 2 yrs max, then BANG! Course, they all can salve the wounds of firing with there millions they still get. Tough gig.
I heard Tomsula got the full 14 + million for one year of work. Not a bad gig considering he was living in his car with his dog, cat, and a litter box over 20 years ago.
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Yeah I was shocked
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TB GM Licht jus did a press conference. He said something to the effect hat he called Lovie and old him Joel wanted to meet with him and that it didn't look good for him. He said Lovie told him to they didn't need to meet, that he would rather not meet in person. I almost got the impression that Licht wanted Lovie to stay another year, he seemed a little emotional about it. I mean their offense did pretty good this year which has been an issue for Lovie. Another high draft pick and he could have had a decent defense.
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Could Lovie fit back in with Chicago Bears as D.C. ?
Probably no.
Fangio inherited a left over defense from the last regime and has tried to make a go of it ,despite all matters.
So he will be given another year.
Lovie could turn up on the radar anywhere as a D.C.
Even rarer would be H.C. anywhere.
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The coaches that have head coached 3 teams is a short list.
Dick Vermeil
Bill Parcells
John Fox
I heard that yesterday....
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And people said he let Rivera walk because he was afraid the Bears would rather have him as HC. Afraid of a coordinator pushing him out?
Well....
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I always felt Rivera choked in the post season with the Bears.
Was not dissappointed to see him go.
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The whole team choked in the postseason under Lovie. In the 2005 playoffs, Steve Smith was unstoppable. And with a healthy Harris and Brown in the Super Bowl the homer in me will always believe that Peyton would still be searching for his first ring.
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I remember Rivera would only give single coverage to Steve Smith and everyone on the board screaming for double team.
Then in the super bowl the images of Urlacher screaming at Rivera throughout the game for lack of adjustments.
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Rivera's come a long way from then..
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I'll stop bitching about Cut and the ints. Hoyer has 2 wtf throws before the half in a playoff game. Jueeezzzusss.
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we also don't know what influence Lovie had on Rivera in his playing it safe etc.
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we also don't know what influence Lovie had on Rivera in his playing it safe etc.
Well aside from the Lovie appologists, I would take Rivera any day of the week over Lovie.
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Well aside from the Lovie appologists, I would take Rivera any day of the week over Lovie.
Yep!!
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Man, Houston looked like ****!! But then again, look at the rest of the division..
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Boring game. I hope this one is better.
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If the Bears had pissed away a playoff game in that fashion...I don't know....I can't believe that happened....don't you have to fire Marvin Lewis. Kneel three times and make it a four point lead. Or control your players after the turnover....wow
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I am beginning to believe the game was fixed. That **** was unreal. If I was a Bengal fan I would be beside myself.
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That's why they play the game.
Cinncy gave it away.
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The hit on the receiver was a solid hit and gets called. THEN the Steelers nail a guy HELMET FIRST and it passes, with some BS 'he made a football move' nonsense. He turned around, didn't get one step anywhere and bam, helmet to helmet-no call. That really set the crowd off and powered them to make it a game. Bengals had this game in spite of the refs being against them. But they blew it badly. VERY undisciplined team. I don't know, but I might wanna find me a new coach. Lewis just cannot get it done. This was there chance and then his team fell apart.
If I said the Packers were the worst team in it, forgive me...the TEXANS are the worst team in this, holy cow. Hoyer looked worse than Grossman out there! Responsible for FIVE turnovers himself! FIVE! And those picks were horrid! Makes Cut look like a All Pro. Stupid fumbles and stupid int's. By the looks of it, that team belonged nowhere NEAR a playoff field!
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I only watched a few minutes of that Houston game and saw receivers drop like 3 passes in a row. They definitely didn't help Hoyer out.
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And people said he let Rivera walk because he was afraid the Bears would rather have him as HC. Afraid of a coordinator pushing him out?
Well....
I absolutley believe that exact scenario. Lovie was threatened by Rivera and cut off his nose to spite his face. Just deserts...
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I don't think Lovie liked noise...he knew Rivera would be a HC soon so he didn't bring him back to keep the noise down. I think he felt like they were building something and having their DC interviewing for HC jobs every year and eventually leaving would be a distraction.
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I turned off the Steelers game with 1:30 left and it looked like a Bengals win. What a crazy finish to the game.
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The coaches that have head coached 3 teams is a short list.
Dick Vermeil
Bill Parcells
John Fox
I heard that yesterday....
Also Norv Turner
Redskins
Raiders
Chargers
Pete Carrol
Jets
Patriots
Seahawks
Wade Phillips
Broncos
Bills
Cowboys
Dan Reeves
Broncos
Giants
Falcons
Marty Schottenheimer
Browns
Chiefs
Redskins
Chargers
Mike Shanahan
Raiders
Broncos
Redskins
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I can't keep from laughing after the Steelers-Bengals game !!!
Best comedy in years in a Playoff game !
Thank GOD it wasn't us. ;D
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I can't keep from laughing after the Seattle v. Queens game
BWAHAHAHA, another classic patented Vikings choke!!!!
Listening to the post game will be fun!
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Laces OUT! lol....poor Queens, man...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tV2MHnPJS4&feature=player_embedded
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Vikings play by play radio call on missed FG (https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F241331876&visual=true&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false)
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Still pissed about Gase ... what the **** are we ... a goddamn halfway house ...
to coaches moving onto the big leagues ?
We need coaches that stay with us for the long run and BUILD the TEAM!
Tired of hiring **** that use us as a stepping stone.
Let's get a coaching staff in place that isn't going to skate.
We can't do F.A. or the Draft until then. >:(
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I don't want coaches that no one else would want.
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You hire the best coaches you can get and if they get hired away from you, replace them. Did you learn nothing from Lovie getting rid of good coaches that threatened his job?
Fox will have a good OC here one way or another. I am not worried about that. I am more worried about getting him and his staff the talent they need to be successful.
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Just my opinion, but if I were Pace I would be questioning Loggains whether he wants to be the OC of the Bears or the Fins and how many coins is it going to take to make him happy. We need some stability.
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Lets get someone in that has called plays before. Not an "OC" of a play calling head coach.
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I heard Loggains was OC in Tennessee.
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Yes he was for parts of 2 seasons but stelz says he didn't actually call the plays.
Recall Kromer was our OC but Trestman called the Bears plays.
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Who do you guys want to win the SB?
Being a NC native I have to pull for Car.
Other than them I would like to see AZ or KC.
Wouldn't mind Peyton winning another one.
Anybody but GB or NE, Pitt is third on my don't want to win list.
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I typically root for NFC teams except those in our division, so Arizona and Carolina would top my list. At the bottom would be NE and Pittsburgh unless they are playing that Wisconsin NFL team.
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I'm kind of like you Dallas, I generally pull for the NFC or the underdog or against the teams that have been there recently.
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I get drunk and don't care who wins if the Bears aren't playing. Been drunk a lot. Bears in it I will stay sober like I did in 06. Learned a lesson in 85. I just wish I could remember what it was I learned. Massive, massive hangover of Biblical proportions.
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I would be fine with Arizona or Carolina. The Cardinals are originally from Chicago, so I would side there. In the AFC I would pull for Pittsburgh just because of extended family and friends.
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Carolina first, Cards next. Chiefs would be interesting if they could make it that far. I'm happy when the Pakers are knocked out of it, then it doesn't matter much who wins although I do hope it's someone other than Steelers/Pats who have been there too dang much....
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I was wrong about Loggains and his experience as an OC.
In the 2012 season in Tenessee, he had a five game audition at OC (promoted from quarterbacks coach) after they fired OC Chris Palmer...he did call the plays in those games and the Titans went 2-3....this is the sum total of his experience as an OC.
Let's get someone more experienced and not over promote a guy because he is having some success at his current job
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000101851/article/dowell-loggains-on-trial-run-for-tennessee-titans
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Awww geez I was even wronger. Loggains was the Titans OC and called the plays in 2013 as well. They went 7-9 and the staff was fired. They were 18th in scoring.....
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I am getting tired of Seattle too with their superior attitude thing too. Too many shades of Belechick to make me happy. I would rather Carolina, then Arizona. Used to be a Cardinal fan till they moved from Chicago.
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Do the Bidwells still own the Cards ? For years it was a race to see which was the worst managed team in the NFL, but the Bidwells were always in the Hunt. No so much anymore for sure.
If they grind up and spit out the Packers they're on my whoo- hoo list for the year.
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Who do you guys want to win the SB?
Being a NC native I have to pull for Car.
Other than them I would like to see AZ or KC.
Wouldn't mind Peyton winning another one.
Anybody but GB or NE, Pitt is third on my don't want to win list.
GB.
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Three things I'd like from Alabama :
Lane Kiffin (Don't laff we need an O.C. ... again.)
O.J. Howard
Derrick Henry
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LOL, I'd take the 5 guys I mentioned in the draft thread over any of those 3...
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Chip Kelly headed to SF
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So is he now going to destroy them like he did the Eagles? They are already a mess
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Chip Kelly headed to SF
And how come he didn't end up in Tennessee with Mariota?
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That is a good question. And why did SF pick Kelly over Shanahan?
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Kelly probably opted for the west coast as he probably has a lot of ties and fans there. If the deals were similar that's the reason why not Tennessee. Maybe he also liked the ownership stability of the 9ers.
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That is a good question. And why did SF pick Kelly over Shanahan?
Are the Eagles paying him for the next 2 years? SF might have hired him just to be cheap.
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Good call.
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Not sure, but I think if he get's hired by another team then the Eagles are off the hook
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Not sure, but I think if he get's hired by another team then the Eagles are off the hook
True. The Beagles will only be on the hook for the difference if he signs for less then he was getting in Philly. I am sure there are some rules in place so that a team could not hire a guy for $1 a season and let the other team keep paying him the difference.
If they get a job that pays more then their previous position then the previous team doesn't have to pay anything. Unless there was a separation agreement. I believe one coach that was fired this offseason was told by the firing team his Salary was guaranteed 100% even if he gets hired by a new team they would still pay him all they owe him. They felt bad about letting him go or something. Might have been Cleveland's coach.
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well.. Kelly was getting a pretty tidy sum of 6.5 million a year from the eagles.
The 9ers could reasonably sign him for 4 million a year and still have him collect the rest from the eagles for the next 2 years.
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Hey, that still saves them 4 mil a year. Good deal for everyone..
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Bill it was the Niners coach. Tomsalu or whoever.
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This is absolutely hilarious. Reason #753 why the Browns are going nowhere...
From profootballtalk.com
Report: Bears block Joe Douglas from interviewing for Browns personnel job
Posted by Josh Alper on January 14, 2016, 11:31 AM EST
Earlier on Thursday, we shared a report that former Lions General Manager Martin Mayhew will interview with the Browns for a personnel job in their reorganized front office. The team is looking for someone experienced in personnel matters because the top two members of their front office — executive vice president Sashi Brown and chief strategic officer Paul DePodesta — come from worlds well removed from evaluating football players. Brown has already been given final say over which players fill the roster, however, and that limits the candidates to the job because teams can block members of their own personnel staffs from interviewing with Cleveland. Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that’s what happened when the Browns requested permission to speak to Bears college scouting director Joe Douglas. Per Rapoport, the Bears blocked the overture.
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So basically this is like George hypothetically telling the whole world that an glorified accountant like Ted Phillips who wouldn't know the difference between a jockstrap from a chinstrap has final say over the 53 which would immediately limit the list of GM/personnel candidates to currently unemployed folks as other teams would easily block interviews of up and comers as the Bears did with Douglas.
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Bill it was the Niners coach. Tomsalu or whoever.
Well in that case I guess they really weren't doing the guy much of a favor? Who the hell is going to hire him? Maybe for some position coach or something I guess. They would have to pay the whole thing anyway because he is going to remain unemployed.
Where does Lovie land? I doubt anyone gives him a shot at HC this offseason. Does he wait till next year or take a coordinator position?
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Is it just me or is it hard to imagine Lovie ever taking a coordinator's job?
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That has crossed my mind too. He is probably set financially and doesn't need to take an assistants job
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I am guessing he had a 4 year deal and coached 2. He'll sit out at least a year, like he did when he was let go from the Bears and collected a salary.
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Carolina taking it tot he Seahawks right out of the gate. 14-0 already.
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Cam Newton is gonna have to go out on a stretcher for the Seahawks to even have a chance.
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Seattle getting smoked
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Is it just me or does Greg Olsen seem a lot more physical in Carolina than he was here?
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About 1000X more. lol
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Yeah 1000X and maybe more. You used to touch him and he went down. Not any more
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The former 49er's coach walked with a guaranteed 14 Mil.
Not a bad payday for one years work doing nothing.
You think we are all in the wrong line of work ?
I just about blew beer out of my nostrils when I found out **** Goodell was being paid 47 Mil. as Commish.
5 Mil. I could see ... 47 Mil.? Lotta coin to be tossed in the NFL.
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Glad to see the Broncos win as well as the Panthers. Hope they whip the fricking Patsies next weekend. Sick of seeing them in it....
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Denver isn't going to beat the Pats, I don't believe whether in Foxboro or Denver. I don't see a healthy Manning. My only hope is the Denver Defense can stop Brady and company to keep the score close. Its the only way they were able to beat Shittsburgh.
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Pittsburgh could have beaten NE if Brown and Williams were both able to come back and play. Denver won't beat NE.
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I agree, Pittsburgh was the best chance to beat NE. Although Manning did have at least 6 passes dropped that hit WR/RBs in the hands, and that doesn't help, his passes just look like they don't really have any zip on them.
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Pittsburgh is going to be loaded next year. Roethlisberger, Bell and Williams in the backfield, and Brown/Bryant/Wheaton/Coates at WR...that's pretty sick...
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Yeah but we are going to have Jay and Kevin White and Alshon and, oh just never mind. lol
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Lot of similarities between Kevin White and Larry Fitz...both 6-3 215ish...both have long hair...Fitzgerald has a few more NFL receptions (that's about the only difference I see).
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White has excellent speed for his size too.
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He DID have speed, we shall see. I hope KW can be the next LF.....
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I was kind of kidding around about the comparison between the future HOFer and our rookie. Did you see that amazing stat on the number of drops Fitzgerald had this year?
And last year's scouting reports said that KWhite had better hands than Amari Cooper so maybe the comparisons between KWhite and Fitzgerald are valid.
Hopefully KWhite's recovers his speed and the only concern will be his route running which may have been somewhat limited at West Virgina.
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Smart guys fall into where JCut is throwing the ball.
Who Halas Hall has let skip :
Brandon Marshall & Greg Olsen.
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Glad to see the Pats lost.
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Denver won on pass rush.
Tells me we need to draft a pass rusher first
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Tells me we need to sign Von Miller...
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That's what I said, sign Von Miller.
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Yeah I wonder how much Von Miller is gonna cost......Um Mr Gase start thinking.....
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All the hot head coaching candidates are offense, but a defense wins in the league. The Panthers annihilated Palmer. I was thinking how much better the Cardinals would have competed with Cutler in there. With Rodgers and those tools, it would have likely gone the Cardinals way. Palmer was pretty poor and that is a big difference.
Cam could be a beast for years to come
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Even after the cap goes up $10 million or so, Miami is already $7+ million (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2016/) in the hole.
Oakland and Chicago have more than enough cap space to play with, but Denver will probably Alshon him if they can't work something out.
The starting floor would be 6 years $100 + million/$55 to $60 million guaranteed (based off the contracts of Suh, Watt, Marcell Dareus, and Justin Houston).
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What I saw, again, yesterday was we need a top LB out of this draft. They were the difference in that AFC game. Von Miller and Jamie Collins were the keys to that game, not Brady and Manning. Both those LB's were making huge plays that kept the opposing teams offense from doing much damage. We need to draft better LB's and acquire them via FA!
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It gets back to pass rush and your ability to stop it. I think Carolina's D might have outscored AZ. I'll have to say Newton is better than I would have given him credit earlier. Just let think if they can keep guys and keep them healthy with Kelvin Benjamin back next year.
Just glad the Pats are out of it. Thinking about how competitive they are and how they so often seem to bend/break the rules, it makes me wonder if they have a team of hackers stealing information fro other teams, things like draft charts, play books etc.
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I expect Von Miller to be too expensive.
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What I saw, again, yesterday was we need a top LB out of this draft. They were the difference in that AFC game.
True, but what if the Patriots had 2 tackles that could shut down Ware and Miller?
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Was Carson Palmer wearing a blindfold yesterday?
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He wasn't real sharp in the GB game either.
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I think he hurt his throwing hand in the game before Green Bay. I think it affected his throws.
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I expect Von Miller to be too expensive.
I expect Von Miller will not even see FA.
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You don't know, but very possible. I will hold out some hope.
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That is like otter hoping Obama will have a third term... ;D
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Pace has already said the Bears were not going after big money FA's. He prefers to sign a lot of cheaper free agents then a few big ones.
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That is like otter hoping Obama will have a third term... ;D
LOL and we know he does.
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http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-qb-brett-hundley-preparing-to-step-up-b99659908z1-367006111.html (http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-qb-brett-hundley-preparing-to-step-up-b99659908z1-367006111.html)
GB's new no 2 in 2016. Very good potential no. 1 somewhere. Great attitude. Good arm. Quick defense reader.. Accurate passer.
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LOL
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I wasnt watching too much or paying much attention, but did the probowl seem kind of like they were going at half speed again? A couple of plays I saw guys were just standing up when the D player touched them and then the play was over. Like it was two hand touch or something. Maybe just the little bit I saw.
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I haven't watch a pro bowl in over 10 years...don't care who makes the team either.
At least they've tried to make it more interesting with the new format but I'm just not into it.
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Saw 5 minutes and could tell no one wants to get hurt.
It's just a Hawaii vacation and party. Can you blame them?
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I rarely watch it, only when there is nothing better to do.I think splitting up the conferences makes it even harder to root for a team. I always root for the NFC, can't do that anymore.
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When there was no Directv, ESPN and 3 networks, the Pro Bowl was relevant. You only heard the names of some of the players. It is no longer relevant.
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Remember the old "Punt, Pass, and Kick" competition? They should do that instead.
Or maybe resurrect the "Superstars" competition. Man, that was awesome TV.
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Maybe even cheerleader competition and revive the Honeybears.
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Oh hot cheerleader competition, that would help. Mmmmm, dont get me started, lol
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Seems like the games used to be in the afternoons. We have mild winters here in NC. When it is sunny and in the 60s, I'll be outside. Now that the game has move to the evening, we're usually at church.
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Haven't watched the probowl in eons.. No desire to watch touch football..
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Lotta posters here who never watch the Pro-Bowl.
Bwah -Ha-HA-HA-Ha-HA !!!
You watch it because the alternative is Golf !
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The game is a joke Jackie. It isn't worth watching.
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Geez Jackie, you live in Ventura. Go for a long hike on the beach or something.
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Scam sure showed his true... um...feathers... He's getting slammed this morning..
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Yeah, he shows a lot of heart on some plays but he wasn't going to dive for that fumble.
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He shows the heart when things are going well, not so much otherwise..
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Just read where he made an ass of himself in the after game interview, and is getting chewed to bits this am by the press.
Don't **** off the newspapers kid. That never will go away. Ask Richard Nixon.
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It might actually be good for hi. In the long run the to have lost. It might help him mature.
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He was the NFL MVP. What QB would have survived that pass rush yesterday? Maybe Russell Wilson.
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Not going after that fumble was brutal.... not sure what his reason was for not challenging ware on it... maybe he had money on the broncos?
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He was the NFL MVP. What QB would have survived that pass rush yesterday? Maybe Russell Wilson.
He needed to get rid of the ball faster.
Did they even try a screen besides that we screen?
It also seemed, especially late in the game, that Cam always scrambled to his right and they were usually there.
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it was a coaching failure... they needed more 3 step drop and throw plays to get into a rythm...seemed he was constantly looking for the 15-30 yard pass and missing 7-8 yard throws...
Gotta take what the defense gives you sometimes.
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So Peyton has two Superbowl wins, one against Rex Grossman and the other he throws for a buck 41 and is carried by the defense.
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whats the criticism there? that he won 2?
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Some will "get it" and some won't.
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I def dont get it... 19 year pro, pretty much holds every single passing record on the books in the NFL... just won a SB at 39...
might just be the greatest player ever.
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I watch Von Miller after watching years of Brian Urlacher...one of these two got tons of hype and the other deserves it.
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Huh? You're comparing a 3-4 OLB to a 4-3 MLB.
Urlacher in his prime was dominating for a MLB but you can't compare the 2 positions - look at the pay scale.
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Agreed, Ray Lewis was the only MLB better than Urlacher for most of his career.
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Good luck to the Bear in finding one of those, those are generational. Bear to bone I am, I'd still take LT in his prime.
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I'm not surprised, but I can't hardly believe that no one has mentioned the fact that Von Miller whacked Cam Newton right in the face mask on his strip sack that was recovered for a TD.
Hell, it was more of a hands to the face/face mask penalty than the one that gave Rodgers the gift in the last seconds earlier this season...
I know it was obvious that Denver was going to get the benefit of the doubt the entire game, but it's odd that no one outside of Twitter has even mentioned it. The missed reception on the first challenge was bad enough, but damn...
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Yeah, I thought that was a catch. nobody knows what a catch is anymore.
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I missed the facemask but I thought it was a catch also. Huge play.
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What about that stupid punt return where they had the guy and didn't tackle him. A well timed hit and that is a fumble. That gave them 3 points and some momentum.
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Agreed, Ray Lewis was the only MLB better than Urlacher for most of his career.
Ray Lewis made plays in the backfield and near the line of scrimmage. Urlacher hardly ever did that after his first couple of years.
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Ray Lewis made plays in the backfield and near the line of scrimmage. Urlacher hardly ever did that after his first couple of years.
Chris
Do you have some sort of issue with Urlacher? I ask this because you are talking sh*t.
Stuffs were only recorded as an official stat since 2001. Both Urlacher and Lewis played from 2001 to 2012 (Urlacher started in 2000 and Lewis in 1996). So 2001 - 2012 Ray Lewis recorded 48 stuffs....and guess what? During that same time period Urlacher had 90!
So let's look at other stats that occur in the backfield...sacks. In Lewis' 17 years he recorded 41.5 sacks....Urlacher playing only 13 seasons (and in 2009 he played 1 game)...also 41.5 sacks.
Go back to Cheeseland or wherever you came from.
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Urlacher played much of his career under Lovies Tampa 2 defense which assigned him away from the line, generally in deep middle coverage.
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Ray Lewis made plays in the backfield and near the line of scrimmage. Urlacher hardly ever did that after his first couple of years.
Chris
Do you have some sort of issue with Urlacher? I ask this because you are talking sh*t.
Stuffs were only recorded as an official stat since 2001. Both Urlacher and Lewis played from 2001 to 2012 (Urlacher started in 2000 and Lewis in 1996). So 2001 - 2012 Ray Lewis recorded 48 stuffs....and guess what? During that same time period Urlacher had 90!
So let's look at other stats that occur in the backfield...sacks. In Lewis' 17 years he recorded 41.5 sacks....Urlacher playing only 13 seasons (and in 2009 he played 1 game)...also 41.5 sacks.
Go back to Cheeseland or wherever you came from.
Urlacher had 32.5 sacks in his first 6 years. 9 his second 6. maybe it wasnt just 2 good years... but it was defintely a 50/50 career for him.
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Urlacher's game was primarily based on speed. At around 30 or so we could see he had lost a step. He still was an effective MLB even in his last season.
What else you got? Urlacher's inability grow hair?
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Rank
Player (age), + - HOFer, Bold - Active
Rate
Years
Teams
1. Aaron Rodgers (32) 104.1 2005-2015 gnb
2. Russell Wilson (27) 101.8 2012-2015 sea
3. Tony Romo (35) 97.1 2004-2015 dal
4. Steve Young+ 96.8 1985-1999 2TM
5. Peyton Manning (39) 96.5 1998-2015 2TM
6. Tom Brady (38) 96.4 2000-2015 nwe
7. Drew Brees (37) 95.8 2001-2015 2TM
8. Philip Rivers (34) 95.5 2004-2015 sdg
9. Ben Roethlisberger (33) 94.0 2004-2015 pit
10. Kurt Warner 93.7 1998-2009 3TM
11. Joe Montana+ 92.3 1979-1994 2TM
12. Matt Ryan (30) 90.9 2008-2015 atl
13. Chad Pennington 90.1 2000-2010 2TM
14. Matt Schaub (34) 89.1 2004-2015 4TM
15. Andy Dalton (28) 88.4 2011-2015 cin
16. Cam Newton (26) 88.2 2011-2015 car
17. Carson Palmer (36) 88.1 2004-2015 3TM
18. Daunte Culpepper 87.8 1999-2009 4TM
19. Jeff Garcia 87.5 1999-2011 6TM
20. Otto Graham+ 86.6 1946-1955 cle
21. Dan Marino+ 86.4 1983-1999 mia
22. Trent Green 86.0 1997-2008 4TM
Brett Favre 86.0 1991-2010 4TM
Jay Cutler (32) 86.0 2006-2015 2TM
25. Matthew Stafford (28) 85.8 2009-2015 det
David Garrard 85.8 2002-2013 2TM
27. Donovan McNabb 85.6 1999-2011 3TM
28. Ryan Tannehill (27) 85.2 2012-2015 mia
29. Andrew Luck (26) 85.0 2012-2015 clt
30. Rich Gannon 84.7 1987-2004 4TM
Joe Flacco (31) 84.7 2008-2015 rav
32. Alex Smith (31) 84.5 2005-2015 2TM
33. Jim Kelly+ 84.4 1986-1996 buf
Marc Bulger 84.4 2002-2009 ram
35. Mark Brunell 84.0 1994-2011 5TM
36. Eli Manning (35) 83.5 2004-2015 nyg
37. Roger Staubach+ 83.4 1969-1979 dal
38. Steve McNair 82.8 1995-2007 2TM
39. Neil Lomax 82.7 1981-1988 crd
Brian Griese 82.7 1998-2008 4TM
41. Len Dawson+ 82.6 1957-1975 3TM
Sonny Jurgensen+ 82.6 1957-1974 2TM
43. Brad Johnson 82.5 1994-2008 4TM
44. Matt Hasselbeck (40) 82.4 1999-2015 4TM
45. Ken Anderson 81.9 1971-1986 cin
46. Bernie Kosar 81.8 1985-1996 3TM
Neil O'Donnell 81.8 1991-2003 4TM
48. Jason Campbell (34) 81.7 2006-2014 5TM
Danny White 81.7 1976-1988 dal
50. Troy Aikman+ 81.6 1989-2000 dal
51. Dave Krieg 81.5 1980-1998 6TM
Randall Cunningham 81.5 1985-2001 4TM
53. Jake Delhomme 81.3 1999-2011 4TM
54. Kyle Orton 81.2 2005-2014 5TM
55. Boomer Esiason 81.1 1984-1997 3TM
56. Sam Bradford (28) 81.0 2010-2015 2TM
57. Warren Moon+ 80.9 1984-2000 4TM
58. Ryan Fitzpatrick (33) 80.8 2005-2015 6TM
59. Bart Starr+ 80.5 1956-1971 gnb
Jeff Hostetler 80.5 1985-1997 3TM
61. Jeff George 80.4 1990-2001 5TM
Ken O'Brien 80.4 1984-1993 2TM
Fran Tarkenton+ 80.4 1961-1978 2TM
Michael Vick (35) 80.4 2001-2015 4TM
65. Steve Beuerlein 80.3 1988-2003 6TM
66. Dan Fouts+ 80.2 1973-1987 sdg
67. John Elway+ 79.9 1983-1998 den
68. Tony Eason 79.7 1983-1990 2TM
69. Elvis Grbac 79.6 1994-2001 3TM
70. Matt Cassel (33) 79.3 2005-2015 5TM
71. Chris Chandler 79.1 1988-2004 7TM
72. Mark Rypien 78.9 1988-2001 5TM
Byron Leftwich 78.9 2003-2012 4TM
74. Josh McCown (36) 78.7 2002-2015 7TM
75. Jim Everett 78.6 1986-1997 3TM
76. Phil Simms 78.5 1979-1993 nyg
Aaron Brooks 78.5 2000-2006 2TM
78. Bert Jones 78.2 1973-1982 2TM
Jim McMahon 78.2 1982-1996 6TM
Johnny Unitas+ 78.2 1956-1973 2TM
81. Bobby Hebert 78.0 1985-1996 2TM
Jeff Blake 78.0 1992-2005 7TM
83. Josh Freeman 77.6 2009-2015 3TM
Jim Harbaugh 77.6 1987-2000 4TM
Frank Ryan 77.6 1958-1970 3TM
86. Joe Theismann 77.4 1974-1985 was
Jon Kitna 77.4 1997-2013 4TM
88. Charlie Batch 77.2 1998-2012 2TM
89. Drew Bledsoe
Favre and Cutler in a dead tie at 86.0,
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Urlacher was speed. It wasn't power. He wasn't going to take a block head on and make the play. He usually went around it with his speed. He got knocked on his butt more than a few times from a solid blocker. I was glad the Bears got him when they drafted him. Is he one of the all time greats? I think he's near the top but there are many ahead of him, Singletary being one of the first off the top of my head....in fact, I'd take every single backer from that 85' team ahead of him, Wilson, Marshall and Singletary...
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We need a Left Tackle.
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Browns center Alex Mack is expected to exercise the opt-out clause in his contract, NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reported Monday.
Opting out would make Mack a free agent, but Rapoport said that Mack eventually returning to the Browns on a new contract is “a real possibility.”
A three-time Pro Bowler, Mack would likely demand big money on the open market and has to weigh that against the $8 million he’s scheduled to make from the Browns in 2016. Mack signed a restricted free agent offer sheet with the Jaguars in 2014 but the Browns matched it to keep him.
That new contract included $26 million guaranteed and the opportunity to opt out of it before 2016. Mack, 30, had never missed a snap before his Oct. 2014 leg injury and returned to start all 16 games last season.
Resolving Mack’s situation isn’t the only big issue the newest Browns regime faces with the offensive line. The Browns have said they’re committed to keeping Pro Bowl left tackle Joe Thomas, who’s under contract but would likely demand at least a first-round pick back in a potential trade. Right tackle Mitchell Schwartz will also become a free agent next month unless he signs a new deal with the Browns before then.
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Joe Thomas would be one hell of a nice fit on DAA BEARRSSE ...
but man where does the money come from ?
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The NFL North chase. It looks like the Lions' GM is adopting the FA route to "build",
http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Vikings-arent-satisfied-with-NFC-North-title/0f154342-bdb4-4a7d-923a-6e9ac74e3fc7?campaign=email_160226
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http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Brett-Hundleys-progress-produces-praise/48941421-74fb-4ac1-851c-786dcb32e713
Hundley's future.
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Yeah, I remember Peter Tom Willis was impressive in the preseason too.
Looking forward to the Hundley era.
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He could be a Chicago Bear in a few years dallas.
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Reports are that Osemele is going to the Raiders, and Malik Jackson may be going to the Jags...
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Megatron officially retired.
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Doh!!!
The Bears won’t have running back Matt Forte back in their lineup for the 2016 season, but they could still see him on gameday a couple of times.
Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Packers have shown interest in obtaining Forte’s services since the “legal tampering” window allowing teams to speak to free agents opened on Monday.
The Packers don’t often dip their toes into the free agent market, although one of the exceptions came when they plucked linebacker Julius Peppers away from the Bears before the 2014 season. Bears fans probably don’t enjoy watching Peppers trying to stop their defense twice a year and they probably wouldn’t like watching Forte in green and gold when the two teams square off next season.
Eddie Lacy will be back with the Packers in 2016, although his disappointing 2015 season left the Packers asking for more from him on the field and in the gym. James Starks is set to be a free agent and would almost certainly be headed elsewhere if the Packers brought Forte in to complement Lacy and serve as another target for Aaron Rodgers in the passing game.
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Reports are that Osemele is going to the Raiders, and Malik Jackson may be going to the Jags...
Jackson got 90 million 42 guaranteed over 6 years from the jags... he is a nice piece, but that is steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
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Glad for him, but happy we didn't pay:
Jackson is signing a six-year deal worth $85.5 million with another $4.5 million available in playing time incentives at the back end of the contract. Of that total payout, $45 million comes in the first three years and $42 million is guaranteed with Klis reporting that the guarantees cover both skill and injury.
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I don't know what 3-4 DEs make so I don't know if he's overpaid or not. But you also have to figure how much of his success was due to the bookend OLBs Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware.
Lot of money for a guy that produced 5 sacks (one more than our journeyman Jarvis Jenkins).
I still like the guy from KC (Jaye Howard).
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Bears fans probably don’t enjoy watching Peppers trying to stop their defense twice a year and they probably wouldn’t like watching Forte in green and gold when the two teams square off next season.
I don't and I won't.
Anywhere but Green Bay!
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Peppers is a non-factor.
It would hurt to see Forte in puke green and gold.
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He had a non-factoring 10.5 sacks last season! And now he's trying to get Forte to go to cheeseville...and the Bennett rumors....
Now I know how the St. Louis Cardinals feel.
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Why would he want to be a backup in GB when he can still start and be a feature back elsewhere?
that just doesn't make sense. If he wanted to be a part time back up he could stay in Chicago.
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Money....revenge...chance to win a Super Bowl?
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The last one possible. The first two I think unlikely...
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And we don't know that Chicago even wanted him to be a part time back.
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George Iloka (S) re-signed with Cincinnati
Janoris Jenkins (CB) signed with NYG for 5/62.5
Bruce Irvin (OLB) signed with Oakland
Marvin Jones (WR) signed with Detroit
Chris Ivory (RB) signed with Jacksonville
Olivier Vernon (DE) had his tag rescinded by Miami, making him a FA (and yes, the Bears should definitely be in on him)
Bears are in on Bobby Massie (RT)
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Vernon would probably be an OLB for us and would be a nice addition to our group of McPhee, Young, and Houston. Vernon is young (25) and durable (4 years and played 16 games each season).
Massie is a solid RT for a playoff team and could push Long back to guard.
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If we get Massie do we move Long back to guard or LT???
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OK, my latest mock attempt...
FA Signings - Olivier Vernon (OLB), Danny Trevathan (ILB), Patrick Robinson (CB), Bobby Massie (OT)
1 - Ronnie Stanley - OT - Notre Dame
2 - Shilique Calhoun - DE - Michigan State
3 - Sterling Shepard - WR - Oklahoma
4 - Spencer Drango - OG - Baylor
5 - Miles Killebrew - SS - Southern Utah
6 - Morgan Burns - CB - Kansas State (ST stud, KR specialist)
6 - Matt Judon - DE - Grand Valley State
6 - Kenyan Drake - RB - Alabama
7 - Antwaun Woods - DT - USC
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If we get Massie do we move Long back to guard or LT???
Maybe. Lot's of possibilities. Even more if they draft an offensive lineman in the first 2 or 3 rounds. Pace says he likes Leno and Long at their positions from last year, but I guess we got to wait and see who he signs/drafts.
The more competition and depth the better on the O-line.
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Personally that draft is solid but I don't care for Stanley. I don't know where that Arkansas TE grades out but we need a TE candidate, even a possible Dline retread. I think we need a TE more than we need a LT. Even a RT that can catch the ball and block would help.
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Most of the mocks I have ran, I have passed on Henry in the 2nd, and he goes early in the 3rd round, usually to the Giants, who pick right before us.
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If we get Massie do we move Long back to guard or LT???
I certainly would move him to RG and IMHO the Bears could be doing just that.
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I also think were we to get Massie it might be an indication the Bears are going Defense at #11 which I would agree with. The strength of the draft is Dline and at #11 you are going to get a very solid player at multiple positions on defense. Another DE other than Hicks sure should make the Dline more productive. Maybe Spence at #11.
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Looking at needs - we desperately need bodies up front. Right now we have Goldman at NT, Emery's 2014 DT dynamic duo draft (Ferguson and Sutton) and Bruce Gaston. Now we have a few other unproven/unknown bodies to go along with Cornelius Washington, who was "injured" early last season.
(Jarvis Jenkins, Mitch Unrein are both free agents).
That's it!
I wouldn't be surprised if Pace signed/drafted 3 starter quality NT/DEs. And I would't be surprised if he went DE round 1 AND round 2.
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And I wouldn't be upset if they traded those 4/3 DTs for players or draft picks. But I definitely like the Massie idea
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At least it wasn't the Pack:
The Jets lost a bell-cow running back when Chris Ivory took the money and ran to Jacksonville.
But they filled that hole with an experienced guy today.
According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, the Jets are signing former Bears running back Matt Forte.
The Bears let the 30-year-old Forte walk, though his numbers last year didn’t indicate a precipitous drop-off.
Forte had 898 yards rushing and 389 yards receiving and seven total touchdowns last year, in 13 games.
He might be a bit of a stop-gap, but he’s an accomplished runner who will keep them from missing Ivory all that much.
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Wow Brock Oswieler to the Texans for $18mil/yr.
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We lost Forte & Marshall to the Jets.
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didn't Thomas Jones go to the Jets a few years back?
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Well, so much for Olivier Vernon...the Giants just gave him 5/85...
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We lost Forte & Marshall to the Jets.
Now that green uniform I can deal with.
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How much cap room did the Giants have?
Pierre Paul, Janoris Jenkins, and Damon Harrison. Top 10 FA guys - all of them.
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Wow Brock Oswieler to the Texans for $18mil/yr.
The most poorly-run non-Cleveland NFL franchise.
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The Raiders would have something to say about that.
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Not even close.
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Some nice posts, dallas.
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Thanks, hopefully the Bears get more nice pics.
Did we shoot our wad and now all we're going to see are the C players signed to one year deals again?
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The most poorly-run non-Cleveland NFL franchise.
Making Cutler look like a bargain...
Scott Mitchell all over again. Osweiler looked so average and without that defense would likely have not had many wins...
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Yes, it would seem Houston way overpaid Brock, unless the deal is more like 5m per year plus incentives.
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Where does all this leave the Broncos? I wonder if Elway is thinking - what's Tim Tebow doing these days?
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Ladarius Green to Pittsburgh...Bears need to get right with Martellus.
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QB's who have even moderate ampunt of talent get paid what Brock got in FA, its not an over pay... Look at what the eagles had to give bradford.
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Where does all this leave the Broncos? I wonder if Elway is thinking - what's Tim Tebow doing these days?
I think this puts Elway in the market for a Kaepernic deal.
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Rumor is that SF wants a 2, and Denver might give a 3...I'm assuming this gets done eventually...
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I think so. It looks like a fit
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Denver's 2 is basically a high 3 anyway.
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Jags signed Amukamara, Bucs signed Robert Ayers
Shea McClellan is visiting the Jets today.
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Can we pay the Jets to take him????
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He's a free agent - we only keep him if we sign him.
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As a backup only. Time for the kid to go bye bye....
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Broncos matched Miami's offer to CJ Anderson...assuming they would have done the same if he had chosen the Bears offer, which was 1M higher...
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Patriots traded DE Chandler Jones (12.5 sacks in 2015) to Arizona for a guard and a 2nd round pick.
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A guard? Patriots need a tackle...maybe 2 after what Denver did to them.
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Patriots lose hicks to the Bears and trade Chandler Jones? And they have no 1st either
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Patriots signed McClellin.
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(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/07/happy-dance-.gif)
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Patriots signed McClellin.
Now we get to see how we should have used him :-)
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Think we've tried every which way to get the guy producing. Will be interesting to see how the Pats do with him. I'm guessing he'll have more of a limited role there which might help him some. Here he was 'the guy'. There he'll be more of a spot guy. They couldn't possibly be considering him a full time player.....I'm thinking...
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Not sure where they are going to play him - the Pats already have 2 pretty good OLBs in Hightower and Jamie Collins. And Bostic is there too.
Maybe 4-3 MLB?
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I think they end up planing their bench so McClellin doesn't pick up slivers. Good riddance. Not our problem what the Patriots do with him.
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That worries me.
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The good thing is this team is identifying its weaknesses and getting rid of them....
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It's well and good to release players that are not meeting our expectations as long as we are filling those holes with players that do...
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what are the chances of Shea making the Pats? They are going to cut him...
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How do you know this?
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Colts signed CB Patrick Robinson...Bears had talked to him previously.
Carson Wentz pro day is about to begin on NFLN if anyone wants to watch...
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HaHa - Bruce Ariens shares his opinion
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25529381/bruce-arians-parents-who-wont-let-kids-play-football-are-fools
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TE Jared Cook signed a 1-year deal with the Packers.
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There are a few FA TEs left...some big names (Vernon Davis, Owen Daniels) and some guys I've never heard of. Oddly a lot of these guys were ranked higher than Jared Cook.
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Jared Cook is a talented pass catcher, poor blocker, and worse attitude than Bennett. Bennett was an above average pass catcher, a much higher that average blocker, but not the best attitude. I'd take Bennett every day over Cook. If Cook can't make it in the asylum playing for Jeff Fisher, I doubt he will fare better in Green Bay
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From Rotoworld...
The New York Post reports the Jets are still shopping franchise-tagged DE Muhammad Wilkerson.
It conflicts with comments from GM Mike Maccagnan, who said he wasn't actively pursuing a trade for Wilkerson. The Jets are reportedly only offering Wilkerson below-market deals and "have barely spoken to his representatives." Wilkerson's $15.7 million tender makes him next to impossible to trade, but there's an outside chance he'll be moved leading up to the draft.
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Jets GM doesn't want the word spreading that Wilkerson could be had. When that happens (see Marshall and Bennett) the price goes down and you get draft choice trade up deals instead of real draft choices.
Assuming we can sign him long term (I don't want a one year rental) - give them our early 4th rounder in exchange for their later 4th rounder...or maybe exchange 3rd rounders.
Even though it can be argued he's probably worth pick #11 but you got to figure in his contract situation and the Jets eagerness to now unload him.
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Jerrah will strike by giving up his 2nd and a 110 million dollar deal for the player.
they have a shocking amount of cap room... when did the cowboys learn to do that?
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I don't believe the Cowboys have that much cap room - they spent a bit of it signing their own FAs plus a couple others (Alfred Morris).
But they do need pass rushers...particularly 4-3 DEs.
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projected pool is 155, they are at 149 + 3.5 carryover from last year.
that is shockingly good for the cowboys. and they can probably restructure quite a few contracts if needed, including Dez and Romo.
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Wilkerson worries me. I'd stay away from that.
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I wouldn't mind giving them like a 4th and a conditional pick next year once we know he is healthy. 12 sacks from a 3-4 DE is a monster season.
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Rams-Titans trade ... how are we in play ?
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Looks like the Redskins have signed Norman...
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5/75
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Dan Snyder is back. As they have been burned before they may find he's a one yar wonder.
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Wilber Marshall ... stone cold killer on DAA BEARSSE ...
cosmic muffin with Skins. :-[
Hey does anybody remember the Cornerback Aronouoghsh you or whatever his name was ...
shutdown Cornerback with Oakland ... went to Philly ... a few years back ...
got Wilber Marshalle'd ... never heard from again.
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Brady's suspension upheld, gets 4 games. Just heard it on nfln network.
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To me justice is served, eventhough he had to wait a year to have to serve it. So that's like having his suspension decreased by a game which it wasn't last year.
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You wonder if he has to sit 4 games last year if they even make the playoffs.
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Anybody's thought's on the first day of the draft ?
How would you grade the teams out ?
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The NFL gets an F. They have jumped the shark with the red carpet and all the pre draft BS.
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I still don't like the way they handle the NFL Draft. Where is Pete Roselle when we need him?
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Redskins release eight players on first Monday following draft
By Tarik El-Bashir May 02, 2016 10:30 PM
In addition to releasing veteran cornerback Chris Culliver on Monday, the Redskins also released the following seven players:
— DL Christo Bilukidi
— LB Desmond Bishop
— WR LaRon Byrd
— DL Anthony Johnson
— DL Kamal Johnson
— CB Al Louis-Jean
— LB Derrick Mathews
None of the above players saw a snap for the Redskins last season.
ach was also a long shot to earn spots on Washington’s 2016 53-man roster and probably was displaced by a recent free agent addition and/or draft pick.
Tags: Latest Headlines, Washington Redskins
I thought he was still a Bear???????
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I think he didn't make the 53 man but may have been with us during the preseason in 2015...or maybe 2014?
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5 of the top 10 picks of the 2012 draft did not have their fifth year options picked up this week
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Does that make them FAs or they are FAs next year?
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They are like Shea or out of the league:
1 Indianapolis Colts Luck, Andrew
2 Washington Redskins Griffin III, Robert
3 Cleveland Browns Richardson, Trent
4 Minnesota Vikings Kalil, Matt
5 Jacksonville Jaguars Blackmon, Justin
6 Dallas Cowboys Claiborne, Morris
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Barron, Mark
8 Miami Dolphins Tannehill, Ryan QB
9 Carolina Panthers Kuechly, Luke
10 Buffalo Bills Gilmore, Stephon
I think the 5 are Griffin, Richardson, Blackmon, Claiborne, and Barron. Blackmon is out of the league. Claiborne re-signed with the Cowboys on a new 1 year deal.
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Sorry I should have said the 2013 draft
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I think your statement is still valid for 2012. Shea and a few others only played 4 years (or less) and their teams never exercised the team's option for their 5th year which would be 2016.
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Geez. 2012 the next 6 guys after Luck are busts
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That's why it is hard to get to up or down about the draft. Crapshoot...
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http://www.westernjournalism.com/black-female-executive-speaks-out-about-working-for-trump-family/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=CampaignMonitor&utm_content=top-story&utm_campaign=DailyEmail05.03.16
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Wrong place to post about that Packy.
Hey ... after TE ... what have BEARS signed in F.A .?
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Once again, sorry. I must be more careful about that.
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Can anybody grade the Draft ? I give BEARS B-.
Some teams they rated A.
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Yeah, I'd say a low B high C type of deal, to me. Got some that may work, some that are more huh?'s and others that may not make the team. Can't imagine all those safeties being there by the time it's all said and done, but at least they're attempting to fill a need there finally...
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Remember back in the Angelo days we always drafted Safety's and none of them ever made it ?
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They drafted a majority of players that never made it or didn't last long, lol
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Maybe it is the koolaid, but I think all 3 S will make the team. Each one has a different skill set.
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Eagles to name Joe Douglas personnel director
(http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20160508_Eagles_to_name_Joe_Douglas_personnel_director.html)
This guy is definitely on the fast track after coming to the Bears from the reliable Newsome/DeCosta Ravens operation. If this is true, there will be a new head for the Bears college scouting department.
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Bostic didn't last long with the Pats - they traded him to the Lions for a 2017 conditional seventh. Apparently the Lions GM was with the Pats when they engineered the trade with the Bears.
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I remember viewing Bostic's college highlights after that draft - and he sure seemed like a beast
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And then he had that one crushing blow on that one play in that one preseason game...
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ex-qb-kramer-recounts-suicide-attempt-inspirational-recovery/ar-BBtlfOn?ocid=spartanntp
I don't think I had heard of this before. Glad he survived and is doing better.
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I'm sure he realizes how lucky he is to survive a gunshot to the head.
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I had a work colleague that committed suicide just last month. Over the last 2 years, we saw firsthand the ravages of severe depression and its effect on one of the strongest, positive, outgoing guys you would ever meet. Anyone who pulls that trigger went through hell to get to that point. Eric Kramer was given another chance and sounds like he's using it to make a difference. God bless him and anyone else who suffered that way.
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What is about us seeing it that we can't stop it ?
We don't want to see anybody deceased ... not by their own hand.
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http://lombardiave.com/2016/05/31/nfl-coms-most-talented-not-packers/?utm_campaign=FanSided+Daily&utm_source=FanSided+Daily&utm_medium=email
Shame on NFL .COM. Who writes this ****? The NFL needs a complete overhaul of their staff.
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I agree with them. Aaron Rodgers really is that good. You should be proud of that. Also be proud of your coaching although having Rodgers helps.
Not to say the Packers have no talent anywhere else. That is not true. They just aren't overly talented more then other teams.
This is todays NFL if you have a premier talent at QB you have to pay for them which hurts at other positions. However it is really hard to win with out that premier QB. It is possible but not likely.
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So, you think those ten teams will be in the play-offs? How about the Giants?
What a stupid way to rate team potential.
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Packy,
Nobody can rate any team right now.
Least of all the NFL.
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I can!
I rate the Packers...probably somewhere in the low 30s.
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DAL,
Then where the hell does that mean we line up at ?
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Below that I believe. ;D ;D
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Wsh,
Fcck that noise dude ... we wasted those punks on their field on Thanksgiving.
Now it's time to see what we have to waste the NFL.
A CHICAGO BEARS FOOTBALL TEAM is made of nothing less.
It's what we want. >:(
Anger personified .
WALLY STRAIGHT ARMING ...
Fkkin Chicago godamn motherfkking BEARSE !
One kid was left outide of Soldiers Field ... with a dollar to spend ....
and he got a ticket inside with that dollar ...
THAT's CHICAGO BEARS !!!
It's what makes us.
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That was one cool thanksgiving
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Email
NFL forces Patriots to wear numbered jerseys at practice
Posted by Michael David Smith on June 12, 2016, 8:27 AM EDT
Patriots Camp Football
AP
For the last few years, Patriots coach Bill Belichick has had his team practice in the summer without numbered jerseys. But this year, the NFL put a stop to the practice.
NE again.
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now Bill will just let them wear a different number every day :-)
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Or all the same number :D
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He should run them all out there in 00.
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http://prod.preview.packers.clubs.nfl.com/news-and-events/article-cliffs-notes/article-1/Pro-football-gave-Packers-the-boot/7e6aeecf-3d01-48d4-a38b-5f62d344245e
From such humble beginnings was the NFL formed.
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When training camps open, the NFL plans to interview Packers linebackers Julius Peppers and Clay Matthews and Steelers linebacker James Harrison about allegations that they used performance-enhancing drugs.
Tom Pelissero of USA Today reports that the league informed the players’ union that officials will be there on the first day of training camp to question the three players, who were named in an Al-Jazeera America documentary about PEDs. An interview with free agent Mike Neal, also named in the documentary, is also expected to take place within the next four weeks. But the biggest name in the documentary, Peyton Manning, was not named in a letter from NFL V.P. Adolpho Birch to the players’ union.
“On January 11, 2016, the league notified Messrs. Peppers, Neal, Matthews and Harrison that it had initiated an investigation following the airing of the Al-Jazeera America documentary, which raised serious issues concerning their possible violation of the NFL/NFLPA Policy on Performance-Enhancing Substances,” Birch’s letter said. “The players were further advised that, with their full and timely cooperation, the investigation would be conducted expeditiously and with minimal disruption.
“While the investigation has proceeded, we have yet to interview the players. We have attempted since early April to work through the NFLPA to schedule them, but despite multiple requests the NFLPA has failed to respond, except to seek reconsideration of the basis for the investigation. This continuing delay and avoidance has obstructed our ability to conduct and conclude the investigation.
“In fairness to all, including the players involved, we must move forward with the interviews. Accordingly, this will advise that the interviews of Messrs. Peppers, Matthews and Harrison will be scheduled for the first day of their respective training camps, and the interview of Mr. Neal (free agent) will take place on or before July 22. The players will be advised of the specific scheduling details by separate correspondence on which the NFLPA will be copied, and of course an NFLPA representative may attend each interview should the player so request.”
The NFL is also investigating the allegations against Manning, although any league discipline would be meaningless now that he’s retired. If the NFL finds that Peppers, Matthews, Harrison or Neal violated the league’s PED policy, that could result in suspensions even if they’ve never failed a drug test. It is unknown whether the four players plan to answer all of the NFL’s questions — and whether the league would discipline the players if they don’t fully cooperate.
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I knw this is not a criminal investigation, but this certainly smells when the union is obstructing the interview process for 6 months. Gave the players and union plenty of time to line up their stories.
"It's not a lie, if you believe it" - George Costanza
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We've been through "Around The NFL" concerning CHICAGO BEARS ...
the next step in the logic is can we plant a TEAM on the field that just flat out kicks ass ?
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The real question here is whether or not the NFL should pay any attention to a statement from a dubious source like al Jazira. Many sources are just ignored because the lack credibility. I'm pretty sure that is the case here.
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Well Packy there have been many here on this board who have said these Packer players have used PEDs. So whether or not they do or have its not a bad idea to find out. Lets not hide it and shove it under the rug anymore. If there is nothing to hide why not just talk to the league and it'll be all over. More hiding shows guilt to me.
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OKAY.
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2:41pm: The players in question are and have been willing to submit to interviews, but things have been delayed due to the bureaucratic differences between the two sides on the scope of the interviews and other factors relevant to the process, a source tells Mike Florio of PFT. The NFLPA is concerned about the precedent that these interviews could set, given the credibility issues that have been raised about the documentary. Going forward, the union is concerned that something as arbitrary as accusations of drug use via social media could lead to league examination, which is the type of thing the NFLPA does not want to invite.
12:09pm: The NFL has informed the NFLPA that league officials will show up on the first day of training camp to interview three players named in the Al-Jazeera America documentary linking them to performance enhancing drugs, according to USA Today’s Tom Pelissero.
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Almost 1,700 players in the NFL and Al Jazeera only found 3 Packers plus one other player on PEDs. LMAO. Julias Peppers? Julias Peppers? Did he do PEDs with the Bears, too? Maybe they have a couple of Bear fans on their staff.
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The NFLPA wasn’t impressed by the explanation.
“The only thing we are saying to the league is, ‘Show us what credible evidence you have, so that we can understand what the basis of your investigation is,'” NFLPA spokesman George Atallah told Kaboly. “Because if the basis of your investigation is simply four sentences of dialogue exchanged in this media report from a guy who took back everything he said in a YouTube video, that’s not enough. . . . It’s not like there is some positive test or missed test out there. Literally, this is only about the media report from December. . . . So we have asked them to clarify what their [additional] evidence is, and they have so far told us nothing about... that.”
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Good point, now we'll see
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I think Matthews would be happy to debate the issue and prove he is innocent.
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Packy,
I have to say it man ... but I just want your Packers asses kicked on a routine basis.
You understand it's not personal right ?
It's not about you ... it's about your team. :)
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I think Matthews has the most to hide too
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No ****!
Where there is smoke there is fire. Peyton Manning was taking them and so were these guys.
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NFL to interview Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers, James Harrison in PEDs probe
Clay Matthews
By Tribune news servicesContact Reporter
Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and James Harrison will be interviewed next month by NFL officials in connection to a media report that linked them to the use of performance-enhancing drugs.
A letter from NFL executive Adolpho Birch that was obtained by The Associated Press says Green Bay linebackers Matthews and Peppers and Pittsburgh linebacker Harrison will be interviewed when training camps open. The Packers begin practicing on July 26, the Steelers on July 29.
The letter also mentions defensive lineman Mike Neal, a free agent who will be interviewed. It doesn't mention the now-retired Peyton Manning, who also was cited in Al-Jazeera's report in December.
The NFL first notified Matthews, Peppers, Harrison and Neal about its investigation into the report on Jan. 11. That investigation has proceeded, but Birch wrote that the players' union hasn't responded to "multiple requests" to schedule the interviews.
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No ****!
Where there is smoke there is fire. Peyton Manning was taking them and so were these guys.
What smoke, specifically? Only comments I have heard are from some Bear fans who taste sour grapes. and that discredited article from - would you believe - Al Jazeera? Does ANYONE believe that 3 Packer players, one other player plus Payton Manning are the 5 people in the NFL constitute the entire NFL problem? It all started from a malcontent; Maybe another Bear fan, who later reneged on his comments.
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Read up on the original Peyton Manning story. The company was shipping HGH to Ashley Manning (Peyton's wife) in various cities (cities Peyton was traveling to). His wife could very well have one of the few rare illnesses that would require a prescription for HGH. Peyton said they were for his wife who had a medical issue he would not discuss.
The other guys were ratted out by the same guy who ratted Peyton out.
Do they also have wives with this mysterious illness?
Former Guyer Institute employee Charlie Sly alleges Manning and other athletes were provided with HGH from the clinic by mail. Sly claimed the packages were sent to Manning -- then a player for the Indianapolis Colts -- under his wife's name, Ashley Manning.
In the documentary, Sly tells Al Jazeera about the drugs Guyer allegedly would provide his clients.
"Like growth hormone, all the time, everywhere..." Sly said in the report. "And it would never be under Peyton's name, it would always be under her name."
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Doesn't it say something when Al Jazeera is the only organization reporting this?
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I am going to take a contrary position on HGH use. I would be in favor of allowing athletes to take HGH when rehabbing from a significant injury. Let's use Manning for example. He hurts his neck, has surgery and is going to miss the season or a large portion of the season. I don't see what is wrong to take HGH as part of the recovery process if that would help with the recovery. You could place rules on the use like, if a player is going to use HGH it must be approved by the league prior to use and there should be a minimum term that the recovering player must be out - like 8 weeks. I would say, if you were to take HGH for an injury you must be off of HGH (not taking it) for 4 weeks before returning to play. If this gets the best performing players back on the field after serious injury, and the player understands the severe risks involved with taking HGH, then what's the problem? Any use of HGH outside of league rules would result in suspension.
I would also close any loophole for the family to receive HGH, unless it was approved by the league with advance notification. I believe Manning was taking the HGH by the way, not the wife. In fact, it would be in Manning's typical mode of operation to notify the league in advance if he had nothing to hide... if the image he portrays to the public is the true person. I tend to believe he is a good guy, but I think he bent the rules so he could finish this last season.
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Sorry Packy, I absolutely believe Matthews is using something off the table. Not sure about Peppers, but gut tells me yes but I don't have a firm conviction
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Usually a sure sign of use is a huge weight gain and he did have one. Whether he used one in the past I cant say but from his appearance prior to his weight gain I would say yes. Does he use it to maintain his weight? Probably.
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How about the several hundred other NFL players? Looks to like personal hatred for a team. The guy withdrew his claim.
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Agreed. They all should be routed out. Everyone of them
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"Should be." If they do that I'll be a happy camper, but not the present undocumented information from Al Jazeera. I think you would agree with this, Grizzly.
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I expect these are the only guys he knew about or could put a finger on. Could be other players have other suppliers. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few guys from the same team taking it. Someone asks what supplements you are taking and you tell him abut your "guy" that can get you what you need very discreetly etc. I expect it is much more widespread than we are hearing right now.
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But the guy who made the original allegation later reneged and denied the accusation, so you are left with what?
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did he reneg on the allegation toward Payton as well?
Payton admitted to having it delivered to his house.
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I'm not sure but the circumstances were different.
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He reneged on the allegations on Peyton Manning. After having legal action threatened against him and likely receiving a large sum of money to reneg and STFU.
The allegations against Manning have been proven to be true. His wife was receiving HGH in multiple locations. Manning didn't even deny that. He just said he would not discuss his wifes health issues.
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The Chin discusses the 3-4 defense:
http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/nfl-pittsburgh-steelers-news/2016/7/4/12092154/let-former-steelers-head-coach-bill-cowher-explain-the-difference?_ga=1.174098338.1407987088.1465783920
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http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/74684/2016-nfl-training-camp-dates-locations
Individual team comments.
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http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/08/28/kaepernick-will-sit-through-anthem-until-theres-change.html
POS.
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Joey Bosa has signed with the Chargers.
Browns have released OLB Paul Kruger.
Bryan Stork failed his physical with the Skins, and has been returned to the Patriots, who waived him last week. I assume he will be made available again. No word on why he failed...
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A crippled Stork is probably better than what we have...most likely concussion related is my guess.
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As long as the stork can fly its OK with me. ;D
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Teddy Bridgewater suffers dislocated knee and torn ACL in practice. Wow, tough break for the kid and the Queens. Was hoping they'd be able to hold off the Pack again if the Bears can't do it.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/teddy-bridgewater-suffers-apparent-leg-injury-in-vikings-practice-191925989.html
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That sucks. I feel bad for him and Vikings fans.
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Another non contact knee injury.
What is up with these guys.
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John Sullivan (Vikings) and Patrick Lewis (Seahawks) are both centers who were waived yesterday. Sullivan was highly regarded in 2014 before missing 2015 with back problems. Lewis started 9 games for Seattle last year, and was retained by them in the offseason (he was a RFA).
Karl Mettenberger was also waived by SD, but it sounds like he is probably Dallas-bound. Minnesota obviously is also looking for a QB to bring in.
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Sullivan played in the Vikings first two pre season games so should not have a huge injury issue
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Sullivan couldn't beat out the guy that replaced him last season, Joe Berger (I wonder if he's related to ex-Bear Mitch Berger). So the Vikings decided they didn't need a 31 year old backup center and went with a younger guy to backup up the 34 year old Berger.
Although he's older I think Sullivan is better option than Stork. NFL North guy and as stated he started 2 PS games this year.
I know nothing of Lewis, who might be a younger longer term option to Sullivan.
But right now we only need the guy for a year. Someone that can compete for the job with Larsen.
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I read that ex-Bear Stephen Paea was cut by the Redskins. The Redskins had him playing at 3-4 DE, he's a 4-3 DT. No wonder they were disappointed.
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Dallas needs 4/3 DTs. I'd expect Paea to end up in Dallas. In fact I was hoping we could unload our two 4/3 DTs on Dallas
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I wonder if Dallas unloads that basketball TE they drafted. I liked him and was hoping he went undrafted.
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Word is that Rico Gathers (the Baylor basketball player) will make the Cowboys roster...practice squad roster, that is.
Cowboys definitely need edge pass rushers...I haven't really looked at their needs inside on the d-line though.
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They have to cut him to put him on the practice squad. Depends on whether the Bears have an eye for him or not.
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Yeah, once he's cut then he is eligible to sign on anyone's PS, but once he makes a PS you have to put him on your 53 man roster if you want him.
He's really deep down the depth chart at Dallas - he might have better opportunities with the Bears.
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Patrick Lewis to Buffalo to be a backup
Mettenberger to Pittsburgh to be their #3
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Bears are thinking that Long is coming back at RG. They must be content with vet Larsen at center and figure they have a young backup (Edison) for the future.
Now if Long was going to be out for an extended amount of time they might not have been as comfortable handing things over to Edison.
We still need a swing tackle, and might still be looking at guards too. And of course TEs.
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Not sure what happened, but the Saints picked Kai Forbath as their kicker over Conner Barth...which of course enabled us to grab Barth.
The Saints cut Forbath today...not sure why?
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The Saints cut Forbath today...not sure why?
I look for them to sign Gould.
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They signed someone else.
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Garrett Grayson cut by Saints. Worth a look over Barkley?
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Status quo for Matt Forte...
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2016091106/2016/REG1/bengals@jets#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000701068&tab=recap
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Forte 22 for 96 yards and 5 catches for another 59 yards...glad we didn't keep this washed up halfback
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Funniest (sad, really) thing from the weekend's games:
The LA Rams have not scored a point since Dec 24, 1994.... :D
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Houston getting destroyed by New England with a 3rd string rookie QB. The Bears are **** terrible.
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I watched most of the game. Before the game the know it alls were predicting a Texan win. 27-0 the final
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If the Pats can start 4-0, that would be payback to Goodell for the screw job he did to Brady. Just saying.
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Only 1 sack for that Texans fierce pass-rush!
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I was thinking the same thing. The Bears are simply past horrible. I really like George, but the McCaskeys think you get football knowledge through osmosis. Or divine right. You don't. They are going to keep picking the wrong everythings because they don't know what to look for. You can't keep asking everybody else what to do. You gotta get your hands dirty and go see for yourself. All the Bears from them on down are going through the motions but not knowing why. so when something goes haywire they don't know how to fix it. New England is a Goddamn machine, but that's because of the coach and owner have a clue about the industry. For the Bears, the current qb has had the hell beat out of him for eight years and has an underlying problem than has to be address daily to get close to normal, people who knew what to do in there positions got shipped out, and for whatever reason the players have an undercurrent of "I just don't care". Blah.
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For another perspective - the Gase-led Miami Dolphins are neck and neck with the Mighty Cleveland Browns so far
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Where is Rusty Jones ...
the former Strength & Conditioning Coach for THE CHICAGO BEARS ?
He sure ain't here.
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Don't know where he is, but I found Mel Tucker today...
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Was he in a van down by the river???
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Nah, he was watching Chad Kelly and Co. shred his defense...
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The only thing I can think, he interviews well.
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Watch the Lions WTF reaction to Packer's downing kickoff while out of bounds...
http://www.totalprosports.com/2016/09/26/packers-kick-returner-ty-montgomery-exploits-loophole-in-nfl-rulebook-to-his-advantage-video/
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The decline has become a mystery, for the media and surely for the NFL. The league’s failure to discipline more aggressively players who have engaged in off-field misconduct possibly has turned off some fans. A perception that the league reacts too heavy-handedly in other matters (like #DeflateGate and the Saints bounty scandal) could cause others to think the NFL hopes to steer certain teams toward success and to make it harder for others to succeed.
These two dynamics have contributed to an intense sense of disdain by plenty of fans for Commissioner Roger Goodell. It’s odd, however, to think that fans are choosing not to watch the NFL on TV because they don’t care for the man whose name appears on the football. (That said, it’s likely no accident that Goodell largely stays out of view.)...
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It is because of the protest where they don't stand for the national anthem. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
Throw in some bad football and terrible officiating and that is how you arrive at their declining numbers.
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The Eagles appear to be the hottest team in the league right now. They have put up 92 points and have by far the lowest allowed at 27. Vikings D is 3rd with 40 allowed but their offense is 3rd just in our division, so to get very far they need to put up more points. 21 teams have more points of offense than they do. The Loins D is about where our D is points allowed wise but their O has almost doubled our output. I expect this game to get out of hand fairly quickly for the Bears. I'm gonna guess 27-10 Loins....
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Well it is a home game, so you have to figure it will be a loss. If the Bears win then everyone can say, see, come off the ledge for a week, they are turning it around. If they lose, they can say, Hurray for the first pick in 2017. LOL
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If we only had a GM/Coach/owner that knew what to do with a top pick. I've read so many comments from many fans saying the same thing. They'll get that first pick and blow it....
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For those hoping for a franchise QB with that first pick, you need to start watching reruns of Fantasy Island. Bears couldn't identify a franchise QB if they were shown a pic of Aaron Rodgers.
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ravens-fire-offensive-coordinator-marc-trestman-marty-mornhinweg-takes-over/
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2 classy guys. Tillman tribute to C. Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bto008kchnk
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Very cool.... (http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Mb7d22813ca34a906ca404f2d7b6c8979o0&w=32&h=35&c=8&qlt=90&o=4&pid=1.7)
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Peanut is a class act.
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Too bad they are rare personalities in professional sports
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Maybe not - we mostly just hear about the bad ones in the media.
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Also rare in youth sports unfortunately - cause and effect?
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After last night's game I take back my suggestion we may want to look at getting Siemian from Denver
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Yeah he sure blew last night.
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Too bad they are rare personalities in professional sports
I think that is a far too cynical of an opinion. You hear far more stories of athletes of every sport being positive influences in their communities for every one that is negative.
And I don't subscribe to the notion that all athletes have to be roll models. If they choose to be one great, if not they owe nothing to anyone outside of the family or organization which pays for their performance.
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You should stick to sports posts.
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Are any of you drumpfster fire supporter confused?
Should you believe any girl/women who alleges sexual misconduct no matter the years past or what drumpfster has been actually doing all week....
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Eric Weems just did a fair catch on the 2 yard line for the Falcons. Real genius.
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And Erin just turned the ball over AGAIN.
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I'd say the most underperforming team right now has to be the Panthers. Same record as the Bears with twice the talent.
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How can you say that when the Packers have either an All Pro or a HOFer at every single position?
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6. Officials could impact NFC Playoff race
First off, let’s be clear here. The Atlanta Falcons had a golden opportunity to go into Seattle and take care of the Seahawks. They dominated for most of the second half, putting up three unanswered third quarter touchdowns.
If it wasn’t for a meltdown by the Falcons, this likely wouldn’t have been a game. Good teams close out their opponents. Atlanta simply didn’t do that on Sunday.
Still, the officiating in this game was absolutely slanted in Seattle’s favor, something we
have seen when Pete Carroll and Co. have played at home over the years.s.alIt all came to a head with Atlanta facing a 4th-and-10 down by two with just over a minute remaining. Matt Ryan threw up what seemed to be a prayer to Julio Jones. If the pass had connected, it would have put Atlanta in position for a game-winning field goal.
Maybe Pete has something on the officials.
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$ome one doe$
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Lol, do they now. They're still in the plus category while the Panthers are a total mess. Saw the presser last night with Cam and he was not in a good mood. Not the bubbly, happy, let's jump in the crowd and kiss babies guy we saw last year.
Next question.....
https://youtu.be/g-lkSKk9Gd0
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Looks like Brandon Marshall will never sniff the playoffs...
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But Martellus Bennett sure will.
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Who cares?
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As a (kind of) funny aside, Brian Baldinger was walking about putting a bounty on Ezikial Elliot this weekend.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/10/29/brian-baldinger-eagles-should-put-a-bounty-on-ezekiel-elliott/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/10/29/brian-baldinger-eagles-should-put-a-bounty-on-ezekiel-elliott/)
What was funny is the comment down the line by thegreatgabbert says:
"If you cut Zeke’s head off, he’d be half the size."
Now this is what I enjoy about football nowadays since the Bears stink :D
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Norv Turner just walked out on the Vikes. Ouch. Started so good, now a train heading off the bridge at 100 mph. The Bears are thought to be so low that losing to them
makes you quit? Screw you.
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Cutler kills another coach ? ":D
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LOL. I was going to post the same thing about Turner. If you can't beat this bears team might as well hang 'em up.
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It's amazing how seasons can flip on a dime. Vikes were one of the best in the NFL and even sat at the top of the heap for a week or two. Now? Total tailspin. And then there's us. A mess for most of the last few weeks and within one games time, they appear to have the light go on and look like a different team. It's bizarre....
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The problem is the Vikings could still make the playoffs and that is almost impossible for us.
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Our division winner could be 8-8 or 9-7. I don't think we will have a 12 win team in the North...
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The problem is the Vikings could still make the playoffs and that is almost impossible for us.
And the Cubs were down 3-1 in the World Series...
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The Bears remaining schedule is not really formidable - ya never know
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If the Bears stop tripping over themselves (yeah, kinda long shot there) they might get in by some mathematical tie breaker means. But I refuse to drink the cool-aid.... yet :D
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Pitttsburgh does not allow any DALLAS COWBOY to stand ...
not when their reputation is on the line .
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Well the Loins move into first place not even playing this week when the rest of the Division crapped the bed.....
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Gase takes no prisoners...
http://www.totalprosports.com/2016/11/30/dolphins-cut-leon-orr-mid-practice-after-he-gets-arrested-for-weed-kush-syrup/
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The first rule of Fight Club is: you do not talk about Fight Club.
http://www.totalprosports.com/2016/12/01/former-chicago-bears-ol-turned-prison-guard-accused-of-running-teen-fight-club/
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Which NFL teams have been affected most by injuries this season? What follows is a subjective list that attempts to connect team weaknesses to the personnel losses they've suffered.
Vikings RB Adrian Peterson continues to rehab from the torn right meniscus he suffered in September. AP Photo/Andy Clayton-King
1. Minnesota Vikings | Record: 6-6
It's remarkable the Vikings have won six games after losing their quarterback in August, their best player in Week 2 and both starting offensive tackles by Week 4. (Not to mention their offensive coordinator, who resigned in Week 9, and head coach, who had emergency surgery on a detached retina in his right eye Wednesday and did not coach against the Cowboys on Thursday night.)
The Vikings were genuine Super Bowl contenders with Teddy Bridgewater, Adrian Peterson, Matt Kalil and Andre Smith on the field. Without them, they're on the periphery of the NFC wild-card race.
Bridgewater's dislocated knee will impact the Vikings for years. They surrendered two draft choices -- including their first-round pick in 2017 -- to acquire replacement Sam Bradford from the Philadelphia Eagles. Peterson's knee injury revealed thin backfield depth, and the Vikings are averaging just 2.96 yards per carry -- by far a league low.
Of course, it's unclear how good Peterson could have been behind a mangled offensive line, one that was so short-handed that veteran Jake Long was able to sign in Week 6 and start in Week 8. Long, naturally, was lost for the season (torn Achilles) in Week 10. Center Joe Berger, meanwhile, missed Thursday night's game against the Cowboys because of a concussion.
Vikings running backs are averaging 1.67 yards before contact per rush, lowest by far in the NFL and a sign of relatively little running room.
Mix in a lost season from defensive tackle Sharrif Floyd (knee), along with four missed games by punt returner Marcus Sherels (two touchdowns in 17 opportunities), and you have a team largely gutted by injuries.
Eddie Lacy, who was averaging 5.1 yards per carry in five games this season, had surgery on his left ankle and was placed on injured reserve. AP Photo/Andy Clayton-King
2. Green Bay Packers | Record: 5-6
Two of the Packers' biggest weaknesses can be attributed directly to injuries.
An ankle ailment ended tailback Eddie Lacy’s season after five games, and backup James Starks missed four games because of a knee injury. Practice-squad promotion Don Jackson was lost for the season after three games due to a knee injury, and the Packers have been so short-handed they shifted receiver Ty Montgomery into the backfield. They have also shuffled through a series of veteran backups, including Knile Davis (since released) and Christine Michael.
In short, the Packers have by far the NFL's fewest rushing attempts (163), yards (615) and touchdowns by running backs (one) this season. Quarterback Aaron Rodgers, meanwhile, leads the league in dropbacks (502).
Defensively, the Packers have played four games without linebacker Clay Matthews, who now is suffering from a shoulder injury. They also have been short-handed at cornerback all season. Top cover man Sam Shields has played in only one game because of post-concussion symptoms. Damarious Randall missed six games after groin surgery and Quinten Rollins (groin) missed three. Since Week 6, a period when all three corners missed time, the Packers have allowed the NFL's highest opposing QBR (76.4). They are 2-5 in that span.
Bears QB Jay Cutler has played in only five games this season because of a thumb injury. Daniel Bartel/Icon Sportswire
3. Chicago Bears | Record: 2-9
It was reasonable to think the Bears would take a leap this season in coach John Fox's second year. But the injury karma began in the preseason when promising center Hroniss Grasu suffered a torn ACL. All-Pro guard Kyle Long played through a shoulder injury early on but was lost to a severe ankle injury after eight games. Fellow guard Josh Sitton has missed three games because of a variety of ailments.
The offense continued to take hits with an injury-forced rotation at quarterback. Jay Cutler’s sprained thumb led to five starts by backup Brian Hoyer, whose tenure ended after he broke his arm in Week 7. Cutler returned for three more games before right shoulder pain forced him to the sideline again in Week 11 and to injured reserve on Thursday. Matt Barkley, on the roster only because Connor Shaw broke his leg in the preseason, has taken over.
Promising receiver Kevin White managed to play in four games before foot surgery ended his season, and No. 1 receiver Alshon Jeffery is under NFL suspension. It should be no surprise, then, that the Bears rank No. 31 in offensive points per game (14.9) and have the fifth-worst team QBR (47.2).
Defensively, the Bears are missing some of their primary playmakers. Cornerback Kyle Fuller (knee) hasn't played yet, although he has returned to practice. Defensive end Lamarr Houston (knee) was lost in Week 2, and linebacker Danny Trevathan is questionable for the start of 2017 after tearing his patellar tendon.
With so many playmakers sidelined, the Bears defense is tied for the second-fewest forced turnovers (eight) in the NFL.
Top three teams cursed by injuries all in the NFLNorth.
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I wonder if Obama will blame that on Global Warming. I mean it seems everything is blamable on global warming, even the Trump victory.
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Problem with the Bears is they had no depth to begin with and were thin in talent and to lose anyone with a roster that thin puts them in a terrible position. To lose multiple players is to virtually gut the team....
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I wonder how the Jets feel about Branden Marshall & Matt Forte ...
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Marshall is reaching the end of the line and will likely never play for a playoff team, unless he is released and picked up by the Patriots. And then the Patriots won't make the playoffs, lol
Forte. Looks like we made the right decision... He averaged in the mid 4's per carry for most of his career. The last 3 years 3.9 and 4.1 with us. 3.7 this season for the Jets. Great Bear, but everyone reaches a point where they lose speed and production
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CHARGERS to L.A. ? Where they started out at ?
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Poor teams tend to move around a lot.
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The teflon coach is finally fired.
Jeff Fisher, whose job security became baffling as he led the Rams through years of mediocrity, was fired today as the team’s head coach. The team announced the move this afternoon.
Fisher was fired after perhaps the single ugliest loss of his coaching tenure, a brutal blowout at the hands of the Falcons on Sunday that ensured he would have his fifth consecutive losing record at the helm of the team.
Now the question is who Rams owner Stan Kroenke will find to lead his team in Los Angeles going forward. Kroenke is more focused on building a stadium than on building a football team, but if he can’t find someone who can help his team win, he’s not going to fill his stadium.
Fisher clearly wasn’t the answer, and now he’s out.
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Poor owners tend to move their teams around alot.
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Poor teams tend to move around a lot.
[/size]Poor owners tend to move their teams around alot.
Yeah ... Da Raiduhs really suck this year. ;D
So long Jeff ... we hardly knew ye in L.A. :-[
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Couldn't happen to a better team. They drafted Michael Sam and all the nonsense that went with that....bye bye....
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Couldn't happen to a better team. They drafted Michael Sam and all the nonsense that went with that....bye bye....
Sporty,
It's official ... we've known each other for twenty years !
First logged on to the Trib Board in the middle of December 1996 ...
made many friend's ... many are still around from those day's.
We've gone thru it all in the last 20 years haven't we ?
Still looking for DAT BEARRSSE SUPERBOWL WIN !
Can we even begin to remember all of the posters over the years ?
God there were so many ... BEARBOT !!
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20 years....wow. Are there any posts left from those days? Would love to read some. Good ol Bearly Bot lol.
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Soooo long ago. Was bearbot the one who supposedly keeled over, and the widow posted the obit ? A Blanda?
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SUPERMAN!
http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/watch_shea_mcclellin_leaps_over_ravens_offensive_line_to_block_fg/s1_12680_22684384
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46 I think that was Chiborg.
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I want the guy back from Austin TX that used to post his credit card numbers.
Who was that ?
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Was that Divad or David?
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The Bucs fan...mmm...mmm...Pewterpower? Fly off the handle and the drop of a hat. Boomer. Hope he's ok. Panthermark....last seen in a photo infront of Lambeau field, presumed lost to the dark side.
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What's happened to Yapper? Used to post here all the time.
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Yeah the Bucs fan in Texas that wanted to kill all of us.
His name will pop through sooner or later.
Interesting ... what did happen to Yapper ?
I too hope Boomer is doing wellin Guam. :D
Frankenstein 7
Agent Orange
Leisure suit
Kickstart (best artwork on the Trib board )
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Marv?
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I used to consider the idea of retiring to Guam.
perfect weather, lots of golf and restaurants, government paid weekly beach barbeques
My wife lived there for a short time and said I would go crazy being confined there though.
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Philippines has the one and only VA clinic outside the US. Living is cheap. Lots of retired military there.
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Marv?
Yep it was Marv ... we need more psychotic's like him around here.
Endless entertainment value. :)
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Dont forget Zout and Nfoligio, who I think went to work for the 49ers......
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NFoligno lives about 3 miles from me - I run into him every now and then.
He works for a utility company.
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Who was it who said he got a job with the 9ers?
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Ferrari.
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Zout and somebody named David Cardanzo or something from the Caribbean used to have so much conversations about religion and politics that that's why the forum was created .
Anybody remember Banker Bob ?
Sailorgirl is probably around here at the Cubs side of the board.
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Happy New Year To Us All !
If we don't deserve it ... who does ?
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Don't forget Nuke.
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whew, Cousins with a crucial int. under 2 minutes within tying Fg range.
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Frisco trying to give us the #2 pick...
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Unsuccessful.
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Seahawks 51, Lions 3
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Beckham and Shepard with end zone drops, and Shepard with another drop on 3rd down...
Gould with a short FG, and its 3-0 Giants...
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LOL, well...that was a clusterfuck...
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When Aaron Rodgers is on ... he's ON!
BEARRSE need one of those. ;D
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Chargers head back to L.A. where they started out in 1960.
L.A. is a two team town again.
It only took 23 years. :-[
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Rams hire Sean McVay as H.C., 30 years old.
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It remains to be seen if LA will support one team let alone two.
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LA fans in the past haven't supported NFL football.
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Bad move by bad owner.
But really, it's just another corporate style accounting move seeking to privatize profits while pushing liabilities on the public.
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Probably. Are they building them a new Stadium? Really drops a load on the SD Charger fan base....
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Steelers-Chiefs game moved to 8:20 ET. on Sunday.
They could play the game at the regular time,
but they didn't want to see fans get killed on the way to the stadium because of the weather.
Nice touch. :)
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I thought I heard San Diego got approved for a new stadium
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Nope, election for stadium failed, bu that doesn't mean a new one still couldn't be built.
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That's the first I heard the new stadium wasn't passed by the voters. From what I "HAD" heard it seemed a done deal.
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The San Deigo Chargers owner is supposedly worth over 2 billion and wanted the citizens of SanDeigo thru taxes the pay for and carry almost all the liabilities of building the new stadium while he pocketed all future profits.
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Almost totally incorrect.
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You expected better?
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Tell us barelydave
How am I wrong.
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The citizens of San Diego would not be paying additional taxes for a stadium.
The citizens of San Diego would not be carrying most of the liabilities for a new stadium. It would be shared by the city, county, Spanos, the NFL.
The owner would not be pocketing all future profits. He would be paying rent to the city for use of the stadium.
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Anyone watching the Seahawks game Saturday saw Devin Hester making his case that maybe he is again the best return man in the NFL.
Still splitting the pursuit but not quite enough juice to take it all the way.
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Anyone watching the Seahawks game Saturday saw Devin Hester making his case that maybe he is again the best return man in the NFL.
Still splitting the pursuit but not quite enough juice to take it all the way.
All the more reason to get somebody to replace him.
SEE : Tyreek Hill ... Oops ! He's gone.
What's coming up in the draft ?
BIG HOLES ON DA BEARS :
ZERO shutdown Corner backs THAT CAN PLAY 16 GAMES .
No returner.
Hell, is Special Teams even an area of interest to CHICAGO BEARS ?
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Actually saw a Pro-Bowl worth watching for the first time in years. :D
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Wow ... they are saying Teddy Bridgewater may be out another year !
How bad did he get injured in a non contact injury ?
Is he joining the Victor Cruz club ?
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Only from what I read, they said there were players crying when his injury occurred. It had to be pretty graphic. At the time they said he could be out two seasons. After seeing Marcus Lattimore tear up his leg, I can't imagine what that would look like even worse.
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Yeah, word is he's out all of 2017 with a return March 2018....bad news for the Vikes.
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FWIW, my thoughts on today's Superbowl....
If the Patriots win (most likely outcome):
1. Shea falls into a SB ring. Kind of like Kellen "He fall down" Davis with the Seahawks (although Davis did have that pass bounce off his facemask in that game which still brings up a smile). Although Shea did have that sweet "jump over the long snapper" and block a FG this season (his one highlight I can think of this season). His one highlight with the Bears was his hurting Aaron Rodgers on that takedown, so we'll always have that one.
2. Marty Bennett gets a ring. Meh. Would rather not see that but at least he's done his part earning it this season.
3. Brady/Billicheck- Hate them or love them or anything in between, they are good. Makes the whole Bears since 1985/Patriots since 1985 comparison so stark and glaring at the Bears' ineptness. (even the Parcell/Caroll coaches were miles ahead of anything the Bears have had.... like ever in the Modern era).
4. The McCasket Bears organization versus the Kraft Patriots organization would be like the old cartoon "Bambi vs Godizilla" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-wUdetAAlY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-wUdetAAlY)
If the Falcons win:
1. Good for Matt Ryan. I saw him come down and play live at Georgia Tech in his last college season and thought he looked the part. Seems a nice guy, doesn't get into trouble. I still can't quite forgive him (although it is Lovie's fault for going prevent D) for that last second win in the Georgia dome back in the early 2000s.
2. Wish Hester was still with them so he could get a ring. And maybe an electric run or two before he calls it quits. Too bad his run ended with the Seahawks (and ironically thankful that the Seahawks run was ended).
3. Julio Jones plays like King Kong. He's a monster when healthy (here's hoping he is for this game).
4. I still say Dan Quinn looks kind of a like what I figured Lex Luthor looked like. At least it seems he can coach. And we are stuck with the likes of John Faux......
5. Arthur blank looks like one of those 1940's Maitre D' or club owner that Humphrey Bogart would frequent. Or a 1940's used car salesman. Not sure which. Seems like a not so bad guy though.
Overall Thoughts:
1. Would like a high-octane game of big plays (defense and offense) for both sides. However, usually its over by halftime (although there have been some good SBs lately) or maybe its just that I'm too drunk by halftime to remember the rest of the game.
Final Score:
Falcons: 27
Patriots: 30 (win on a FG end of regulation or during OT)
2. Here's hoping more 1970s and 80's games appear on Youtube this offseason. Great stuff some of those.....
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I think the Patriots win in a blowout.
However I am rooting for the Falcons.
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What has me rooting for the Pats is that Goodell screwed them over big time, and I would like to see the shove it up his rear end. If they can shut down Julio Jones I think they get it done. If not I wont be too upset.
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The worst part is surviving through the dumb-ass halftime show... Hell one of the few times I pray for commercial breaks.....
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What with the drama of will Lady Gaga or wont she make a political statement that she was banned from making? I will be sitting on the edge of my seat. Or the toilet, as that is the time I usually go. ;)
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Probably a smart move:
Regardless of whether the NFL did or didn’t instruct Lady Gaga to avoid making any political statements during the Sunday’s halftime show, FOX will be able to silence her if she chooses to inject a little First Amendment into the Fifty-first Super Bowl.
Via Michael McCarthy of Sporting News, FOX will employ a five-second delay during the pregame and halftime shows. It’s unclear whether FOX will be hoping to avoid a wardrobe malfunction or a political statement; McCarthy points to mounting speculation that Lady Gaga or pregame performers from Hamilton will choose to express their views regarding the travel ban or other political issues.
During a pre-Super Bowl press conference, Lady Gaga said that her halftime show will celebrate “inclusion” and “equality.”
Apart from the existence of a delay and the parameters for its use, it’s safe to assume that the contracts signed by the talent performing before and during the Super Bowl contain clear language about what can and can’t be done, with stiff financial penalties that automatically attach in the event of a breach.
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Happy for Chris Long getting a ring after all the years on the crappy Rams team.
Could care less that Martellus Bennet gets a ring.
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The commercials really are getting more and more lame. Saw only a couple even worth watching or that were funny. What's with Alfa Romeo? Never see anything to do with them and then, bam, three during the SB. And a bunch of other obscure 'WTH was that?' type commercials. Not even worth watching the crap...
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The Drunk to Atlanta I see. Turned over a new leaf I'm sure. Best of luck to him and his liver.
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It WAS the best Superbowl ever !
Having all the elements of ... Drama... Action... Redemption !
You can't argue with that for ratings !
Proving once again ...
THAT ONLY THE CHICAGO BEARS CAN KICK THE SHIIT ...
OUT OF THE NEW ENGLANDPATRIOTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our assignment has been assigned ... our goal is simple ...
REPEAT !!
That's what fuucking CHICAGO BEARS are made for. >:(
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UGH!
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UGH!
You disagree with that ?
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You honestly believe that Brady and the Patriots winning another SB is a "great thing"? Sorry I don't. I might have agreed with the comment had Ryan and the Falcons had held on. Sorry. And I suppose that you are of the opinion that the Patriots "deserve" a couple of firsts for Jimmy Garoppolo so they can continue to go to the SuperBowl year after year? Please......
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That success breeds idiocy in other teams-like the Bears. They see the Pats success and think to themselves 'hey, I'd like to have that Garapolo fella because he was with the Pats', even though there is very little game film to even begin to consider the guy as a starter. But they'll bite like some foolish carp and the Pats will once again reel in a sucker.....us.... hope I'm wrong...
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Cedric the Entertainer
http://www.totalprosports.com/2017/02/20/cedric-benson-arrested-for-dui-tells-cops-he-cant-count-higher-than-3-because-of-the-nfl/
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TRUMP,
Who was a founder of the USFL ...
should invite other country's into an International Football League.
Play games ... not war.
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Redskins tag Kirk Cousins
Vikings decline option on Adrian Peterson
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Chiefs release Jamaal Charles, and have agreed on a long term deal with Eric Berry.
6/78, with 40 guaranteed...
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Need to put Adams back atop the Bears's need list.
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The Saints have released FS Jairus Byrd, who was coveted quite a bit on this board before signing with NO. He was an All-Pro in Buffalo, but a bust in Big Easy.
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Need to put Adams back atop the Bears's need list.
Which Adams are you posting about ?
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Grizzly...
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Grizzly...
Although dead ... could Merlin Olsen be induced to come back and play for ...
BEARS DEFENSE ?
If we flip him the right kind of coin as an incentive ?
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Which Adams are you posting about ?
John Adams
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Which Adams are you posting about ?
John Adams
Can you be more specific ?
There's alotta John Adams.
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Since you worship people who are pushing up daiseys or should be, I thought I'd give you the 2nd President of the USA
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Since you worship people who are pushing up daiseys or should be, I thought I'd give you the 2nd President of the USA
Who the fuuck knew that except you ?
I thought you were posting about a LB or something. ???
Some dude we should hire from another team.
OK ... we should get Washington !
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JJ put the booze away. Maybe this will make you hapy
http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209392663
Don't ask any more foolish questions. Good Grief!
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JJ put the booze away. Maybe this will make you hapy
http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209392663 (http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209392663)
Don't ask any more foolish questions. Good Grief!
We're streaming down the language to fit into smart phone text.
You WILL learn it !
BTW ... I like spelling hapy with only one p.
See ? You're already on board !
Hapy for you !
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Did someone call me?
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49ers are expected to go hard after Alshon Jeffery.
Saints expected to trade Brandin Cooks...Eagles and Titans most interested.
Jets have released Brandon Marshall.
Bills are most likely moving on from Tyrod Taylor.
Colin Kaepernick opted out of his deal, and is now a FA.
Bengals reportedly want a 2nd rounder for AJ McCarron.
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James Harrison only signs for 1.75 M with the Steelers but Matt Cassell gets 5.75 M.
Life is unfair.
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James Harrison is 39 years old, lucky to even get an offer at that age
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Cassell got that for 2 years, and he is important if Mariota is slow to recover.
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Harrison is still a good player and deserves more.
Cassell is useless
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Still QBs are different
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JJ, Dan Haggerty played Grizzly Adams, not Merlin Olsen..... ;D
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49ers are expected to go hard after Alshon Jeffery.
Saints expected to trade Brandin Cooks...Eagles and Titans most interested.
Jets have released Brandon Marshall.
Bills are most likely moving on from Tyrod Taylor.
Colin Kaepernick opted out of his deal, and is now a FA.
Bengals reportedly want a 2nd rounder for AJ McCarron.
This just in, Kaepernick will now stand for the National Anthem for any team that will sign him. I guess he is seeing the change ::), lol... What a complete tool of a human being
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It must be Kaepernick's love for Trump that made him now want to standup for the anthem. :D
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He's a tool, but he had a great 2nd half of the season.
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JJ, Dan Haggerty played Grizzly Adams, not Merlin Olsen..... ;D
I was close. Father some body for TV show ... Olsen?
Saw Dan Haggerty run top fuel at O.C.I.R. now that you mention it. :D
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If you were Bill Belichick ... and you had two free agent QB's in play ...
which one would you take ?
Jay Cutler or Collin Kapernick ?
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I wouldn't sign Kaepernick regardless ... he is off of my list
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Neither........ I'd have the intelligence to know neither would work.
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I hope the Glennon rumors are just that ... rumors.
We have Shaw back and if able to resign Hoyer/Barkley ...
take a QB in the third round ... although I hope we don't.
Too much talent in Defense at DB & DL this draft to let it pass. >:(
If we resign both Hoyer & Barkley, then pass on QB in this draft.
Unless something dramatic falls to us in mid rounds.
Even if we improve to 8-8 , that still leaves us with QB option in 2018 @ #1 pick.
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Raiders officially approved to move to Vegas.
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Was going to say it's gonna be hot there, but they'll play when it's cooler....still can get hot though...interesting...the Vegas Raiders....
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Maybe they build a stadium with a retractable roof.
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Saw the renderings of the proposed stadium, its...its somewhere way past massive. It looks like something out of the Chronicles of Riddick. So the OMG don't gamble, has changed to OMG don't gamble
unless I get my cut. Know whos' gonna cash in huge on this ? I mean even owner huge? Jerry Jones. Billions.
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Saw the interview with Adam Gase at the coaches meeting.
He has very weird eyes.
Somewhere between Charlie Manson and Adolf Hitler. :o
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Here is a shock. I still think its a fraud.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/buffalo-bills-acquire-quarterback-tom-143027470.html
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Hmm...what day is today? April 1
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April Fools Day. Sure had me going. No wonder I thought it was a fraud.
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Romo retired. Texans to 3?
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I think Cutler will start to bubble up now that Romo is out. Texans wouldn't surprise me...
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What would the Texans trade to move up to #3, JJ Watt? I think it would take all their picks and some next year to move to 3. I just don't see the Texans that interested in such a deal.
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It appears the Texan fans are interested in the Texans signing Cutler, now that Romo has retired.
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I see trades have begun, including picks:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ravens-trade-starting-defensive-tackle-to-eagles-to-move-up-25-spots-in-nfl-draft/
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Was wondering when Cut was going to get some attention. He sure wasn't jumped on when we let him go lol....
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Cutler's shoulder may not be 100% and his agent may be asking too much money I dunno - but he's as good or better than half the starting QBs in the NFL right now
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.....probably better than the one we have...arm-wise, but not brain-wise. Cant cry over spilled milk, it was time to move on.
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Patsies promoting gay bowl..... ::)
https://www.thescore.com/news/1306143
(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder131/53951131.jpg)
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Could be interesting:
As the Dolphins continue to await word on the severity of Ryan Tannehill‘s knee injury, the momentum for Jay Cutler is building in Miami.
The Dolphins have reached out to Cutler, Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reports.
Dolphins coach Adam Gase, who coached Cutler when he was the Bears’ offensive coordinator in 2015, has personally been in touch with Cutler, the report says. Cutler had a good season in Gase’s offense and the two get along well personally.
The Bears cut Cutler in March, so he’s a free agent and there are no restrictions on the Dolphins contacting him or signing him. He has already signed with CBS to work as an announcer this year, but that wouldn’t preclude him from changing his mind and returning to the field if the right opportunity arises.
Gase said today that Matt Moore is now the Dolphins’ quarterback, but Gase made clear that’s only the case “right now.” If Tannehill is out for the season, the Dolphins may go shopping for a new quarterback, and Cutler could be the man.
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My thinking was that Cutler after his release was just waiting for a true opportunity at a starting gig in the NFL. Probably got several offers for a backup spot but decided it wasn't worth it - time wise and financially.
If Tannehill is out for an extended amount of time Cutler might consider reuniting with Gase, but if not I don't think he'll bite on it. I'm sure his wife is wanting him to go Hollywood.
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Yahoo:
Jay Cutler is poised to end his brief retirement, quit broadcasting before he began, and get back on the football field.
Cutler and the Dolphins have agreed to a deal, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports.
The Dolphins have been talking to Cutler since Ryan Tannehill injured his knee in practice last week. Although there’s been no official word on Tannehill’s status, it now appears that he’s set to miss significant time and perhaps the entire season.
Dolphins coach Adam Gase worked with Cutler in Chicago in 2015, and Cutler had a good season in Gase’s offense. The two see eye-to-eye on and off the field.
Cutler would come in and compete with Matt Moore for the starting job. Presumably, Cutler has been told he’ll have every opportunity to beat Moore out and be the Dolphins’ starter in Week One.
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Saw Robbie Gould attempt a 51 yard field goal for the 49'rs.
It went about 35 yards. Sad.
When they lose it they lose it all at once.
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Will Jackieville make a move on Kaepernick after the recent Bortles performance ?
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The Patriots absolutely owned the Lions. We might be able to pass them in the standings.
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Report: Matthew Stafford deal has $50 million signing bonus, $92 million guaranteed
Posted by Curtis Crabtree on August 29, 2017, 1:04 AM EDT
More details are emerging regarding Matthew Stafford‘s new contract with the Detroit Lions.
According to Adam Schefter of ESPN.com, Stafford’s deal will pay him a $50 million signing bonus with a total of $92 million in guaranteed money.
By comparison, Andrew Luck‘s contract signed in June, 2016 brought a $32 million signing bonus with an initial $87 million reported guaranteed at signing. Ultimately, Luck was fully guaranteed just $44 million at signing.
A signing bonus, however, is fully guaranteed, so Stafford will top Luck’s deal on that aspect alone.
A more thorough parsing of the details is required to get a full scope of Stafford’s new contract. That can be expected to happen once the contract gets filed with the league and the NFLPA. The average annual value of Stafford’s deal is $27 million, which is the largest in league history surpassing the deal Derek Carr inked with the Oakland Raiders last month.
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I think this pretty much assures that the Lions will be living at the bottom of the North division for years.
Stafford has his moments but he isn't that good. He is no Rodgers or Brady.
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I sure hope Rodgers gets his new paper soon and blows up their salary cap. He can't be happy watching what everyone else is receiving...
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Joe Haden released by Browns.
We are 3 behind Browns and 49ers on waiver claim process. Obviously, Browns aren't claiming him. Do you claim him and his injuries and his salary? If he gets to free agency, we likely won't be able to sign him.
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That will be a tough decision.
He would be a good mentor for Fuller though.
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So the Browns released Brock Osweiler. That means they paid Houston $16 Million for a 2nd round choice. That is stupid ! Wow, so Browns
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Osweiller </= Scott Mitchell?
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I had actually read that his girlfriend was a big Black Lives Matter activist who talked him into the whole sitting thing during the anthem to begin with. When is the dude going to realize he is missing out on millions of dollars for ****. The **** can't be that good!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/09/05/ray-lewis-colin-kaepernicks-girlfriend-kept-him-from-getting-signed-by-ravens/
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Chiefs are taking it to the Patriots. First half looked like the Patriots were going to run away with it.
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They let the Chiefs win so they wont have to hear all that undefeated season bs. I wonder if Fox is going to do the same thing? lol
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What is ESPN thinking with this announcing crew
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I don't know what they were thinking but I know what I was thinking
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A gruff sounding woman....really.....
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/zjTq6DiCWD3lS/200_s.gif)
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Looks like Cutty being Cutty with the Phins....int and a fumble and a loss....
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http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/10/09/dolphins-aware-video-ol-coach-snorting-white-powder.html
Wow all the way around.
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What the hell was this guy thinking about. Snorting coke and recording himself doing it.. Are you kidding me? Then he sends it to some skank hoe in Vegas. So not only has he lost his job, I'm sure his wife is kicking his lame ass to the curb. What an embarrassment..
Then the hoe says she did it 'cause of the way the minorities get treated in the NFL. Are you fukking kidding me?
Anyone this fukking stupid shouldn't be coaching.. You're FIRED!!!
He was making 2.5 mil a year.. WTF?
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Deonte Thompson had 4 catches for 107 yards today.
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Dave23....WTF....I really liked Thompson - they never threw to him.
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Wow Pats trade Garapolo to the 9ers. I think Kirk Cousins just puked a little.
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His contract is over at end of season. so they either sign him to an extension, tag him and pay him 30 million next year, or release him if he is not effective. A bit of a roll of the dice, but not a bad move in my opinion. But there is some risk.
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49ers must not like what they've seen of Rosen and Darden.
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Guess Brady wants to play another 3 to 5 years. Heard that Hoyer got cut from the 49ers - has he signed with the Pats?
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If he is half decent its a good deal for a 2nd rounder.
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So what are the Bears going to do? Squat?
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Couldn't get a 2nd round cheer leader for Glennon
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So what are the Bears going to do? Squat?
Who do you want them to trade for?
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I doubt the Bears give up any more draft choices. Right now we have a 1, 2, 4, 4, 5 and 6 in next year's draft.
Looking at the 2018 free agents that could be traded for draft picks: Kyle Fuller, Prince Amukamara, Christian Jones, Pat O'Donnell, Mitch Unrein, Kendall Wright.
We're talking 6th/7th rounders at best - who do you trade? Who do you re-sign?
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Who do you want them to trade for?
A real WR.
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I'm hearing that in addition to Hilton, the Colts are discussing Donte Moncrief.
I'd love to see the Bears get Moncrief.
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No Bear trades today - rumors were that teams were interested in trading for Josh Sitton.
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Like we can afford to give him up. We need every lineman we have and a few more.
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Well at least we are not the Browns....
A new version of events has surfaced blaming the Bengals for the A.J. McCarron trade that wasn’t.
Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer tweeted that the Browns sent a signed trade document to the Bengals to sign and send to the league, confirming the trade. The Bengals sent in the wrong document, one signed only by them.
The league needed both signatures to approve the trade, and the deadline passed before they got both.
An earlier report blamed the Browns for failing to get the trade into the league in time. The Bengals would have received 2018 second- and third-round picks in exchange for the backup quarterback.
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Imagine how McCarron feels. And Kizer.
And the Bengals blew a chance to get 2 extremely good draft picks for a backup QB...I thought only Angelo screwed up these type of documents.
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So Deshaun Watson's out for the year with a knee injury in practice.
We all understand that can happen to any player.
I can't help remembering before the draft Colin Cowherd said he thought Trubisky would have a longer career than Watson because he had the kind of thicker body that is less succeptible to injury.
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I didn't think Watson's game would translate as well as it did to the pro level because of his inaccuracy, but he sure showed well. I don't want to hate on Watson because of Trubiskey, I hope both have great careers and that Watson stays out of the NFC North. Don't know how his body type compares to RG 3, but wish Watson good health. Two ACLs though...
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I was worried about Watson suffering a leg injury ala RG3. The question is will he come back as good as before, because RG3 sure didnt.
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RG III 6'2" 223
Watson 6'3" 216
Trubiskey 6'2" 222
All three appear to be about the same height/weight, from looking at them though Trubiskey has a stouter lower frame. Pray he avoids the major injury.
Aaron Rodgers 6'2" 225
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Wow:
The #Colts are at a crossroad. Im told it is very possible Andrew never plays again. The team is looking at a top 7 pick in the draft..
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What? What kind of injury does he have that would prevent him from never playing again???
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Irsay supposedly said the injury was "in his head". That quote will when him over for sure. Stupid drunk. Just like the old man. Apple didn't roll far from that tree.
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So just how good is Dak???
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Not...
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Mike Glennon good?
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Haha. I think probably better. Mike Glennon = worthless
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Wow Giants benching Eli Manning....
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I would like to see the Bears make a play for Eli Manning. He would be a solid team guy and an absolute phenomenal backup QB in case Trubisky were to get hurt. I know pie in the sky, but one can dream right?
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He's started his entire career....won 2 Super Bowls...you think he'll want to sit behind a rookie as an insurance policy?
First he'll want to get paid and second he'll want a legit chance to start. Otherwise he'll retire if the Giants cut him and his $15M salary.
The guys to watch in the offseason are in Minnesota. All 3 (Keenum, Bridgewater and Bradford) are free agents in 2018. Minnesota most likely can only keep 1, but the other 2 will probably want starter money too somewhere.
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He's started his entire career....won 2 Super Bowls...you think he'll want to sit behind a rookie as an insurance policy?
First he'll want to get paid and second he'll want a legit chance to start. Otherwise he'll retire if the Giants cut him and his $15M salary.
The guys to watch in the offseason are in Minnesota. All 3 (Keenum, Bridgewater and Bradford) are free agents in 2018. Minnesota most likely can only keep 1, but the other 2 will probably want starter money too somewhere.
DAL,
With our shiity record ... has it ever occurred to you that we can draft another QB ...
with our first round pick ?
Think it through looking at our history baby. 100+ QB's starting ...
none finishing.
Imagine MT with another first round pick at QB.
It would set the sky on fire.
Could THE CHICAGO BEARS think so far out of the box ...
that they set the trend for all other NFL teams ?
Remember : we only get the chance to do this when we suuck.
It may never happen again.
Why two first round QB's back to back in two drafts?
One of them is always going to get hurt.
It suucks but it's the truth.
Why not stock up ahead of time ?
Your thoughts ?
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Eagles sign receiver Alshon Jeffery to 4-year extension
(but he wasn't good enough for the Bears)
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Alshon didn't want to be a Bear. He found a team he likes to play for and signed long term there. I can't find fault with him for that or the Bears for not tagging him a second time. The contract he signed today is around what I remember as the bears rumored offer that alshon turned down.
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What was the rumored contract he was offered by the Bears?
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My recollection was 4 years 12 or 13 million.
My Eagle fan buddy is not happy with the deal. Thinks its a sizable overpay.
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He can cry about the contract after the Eagles go to the Super Bowl this year.
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Apparently Good Jay showed up on MNF and beat Tom Terrific?
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Jay didn't have to face that Dolphin defense. And Jay is having a typical 85.0 QB rating year...right on his career average.
More importantly the Dolphins go up 2 games on the Bears. As it stands the Bears are 8th in the draft standings.
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Brock Osweiler is coming in for Denver. Broncos fans all over the world are on suicide watch. Very possibly the worst quarterback in the history of the NFL.
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2017 CHICAGO BEARS are the itch you can't quite scratch ...
your hand almost reaches there ... but ... ;)
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What will the experts do with the extra hour of unused Aaron Rodgers coverage this week?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-playoff-picture-falcons-end-packers-playoff-hopes-nfc-race-taking-shape/
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I'm not so sure Rodgers won't play. I'm sure he'd like to eliminate the Lions and prevent the Vikings from getting home field.
Could go either way.
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Right - but last week's talking heads spent alot of time debating how Rodgers would carry the Pack to the promised land
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He damn near did...Allison doesn't fumble and who knows?
Packers would be smart to rest Rodgers, let Hundley get more experience (maybe showcase him), and improve their draft position. But Rodgers may have a say in it...
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They placed Rodgers on IR today. So he obviously was not 100%.
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Not many players are 100% at this point in the season. Packers have been eliminated. Don't risk further injury, free up the roster spot, improve draft position, give Hundley more reps, etc etc
But if Packers won on Sunday - he'd be playing this weekend...100% or not.
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If we tie against Cleveland ... where does that put us in the draft order ?
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7th?
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Sources: Teams complain that Packers violated IR rule, think Aaron Rodgers should be released
6:12 AM ET
Adam Schefter
ESPN Senior Writer
Multiple teams complained to the NFL last week that the Packers violated the rules regarding players who are eligible to be placed on injured reserve -- and Green Bay should have to release quarterback Aaron Rodgers as a result, league sources told ESPN.
NFL rules stipulate that a player needs to have suffered a new injury that would sideline him at least six weeks to be placed on injured reserve and, if that is not the case, the team is obligated to release the player once he is healthy.
Meaningless or not, Packers' shutout loss does little to save face in lost year
The Packers had nothing riding on Saturday's loss to the Vikings, but that doesn't make the shutout loss to Minnesota any less disconcerting.
Rodgers played last Sunday against Carolina, came out of the game "sore" in the words of Packers head coach Mike McCarthy.
But Green Bay did not announce a decision about Rodgers' status until Tuesday, after the Packers had been eliminated from a potential postseason spot, when the quarterback was placed on IR.
Had the Falcons lost to the Buccaneers on Monday night, keeping alive Green Bay's playoff chances, it's possible Rodgers could have played Saturday night against the Vikings. But the Packers opted to shut him down, which teams complained was a violation of NFL rules.
It is not believed that Rodgers suffered any type of new injury last Sunday against Carolina. If Rodgers didn't suffer a new injury but was placed back on IR anyway, NFL rules stipulate that the Packers would have to release him -- which nobody expects to happen. It is why multiple teams were bothered last week and raised the issue. Teams wanted to know why the Packers were being granted immunity.
The NFL referred all inquiries about the situation to the Packers, who have declined comment.
But one source said Rogers wasn't going to be medically cleared to play in Green Bay's game, and the Packers knew he wasn't 100 percent.
Still, not gaining medical clearance and being placed on injured reserve are two different things -- which is what drew the ire of multiple teams around the league.
Rodgers was placed on IR and missed seven games after suffering a broken right collar bone in Green Bay's first game against Minnesota on Oct. 15. He was activated last week and returned for last Sunday's loss to the Panthers, throwing three touchdowns and three interceptions -- the first time he has been picked off that many times in a game since 2009.
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Never happen. NFL is nothing but WWE. Speaking of which, I think it would be fabulous to have the xfl back. Shovel all the stupid nfl rules down the crapper, go play football.
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For Kraft, Brady and Belichick, is this the beginning of the end? (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread180105/beginning-end-new-england-patriots-robert-kraft-tom-brady-bill-belichick-internal-power-struggle)
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/05/if-russ-ball-is-in-mike-mccarthy-may-be-out/
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Titans offense looks a lot like ours.
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Decent young QB hampered by bad receivers who has to run to open up the offense.
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Can you imagine the sting of being a Chiefs fan right now?
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The band is going to be breaking up, but not in the way that some envisioned.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Patriots are bracing for defensive coordinator Matt Patricia to leave, most likely to become the next coach of the Detroit Lions.
Patricia, who has a degree in aeronautical engineering from Rennselaer Polytechnic, joined the Patriots in 2004. He became the defensive coordinator in 2012.
Regarded as brilliant in all matters, Patricia also is believed to be more than ready to take over a team of his own. He has, we’re told, a very good relationship with Lions G.M. Bob Quinn, who previously worked for the Patriots.
One knock on Patricia came from his decision to wear the distinctive Barstool Sports T-shirt with an image of Commissioner Roger Goodell in a clown nose while exiting the team plane after Super Bowl LI. Goodell, as PFT reported in July, was still miffed about the gesture. However, it’s currently not believed that 345 Park Avenue will in any way try to throw a wrench into the process of the Lions hiring Patricia.
Of course, the Lions will have to wait until the Patriots’ season ends before hiring Patricia. The longer the job remains open, the more obvious a candidate Patricia will become, like Kyle Shanahan last year in San Francisco and Dan Quinn three years ago in Atlanta.
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Yeah it would be great to get to the playoffs, but losing 6 times in a row at home, ouch.
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If Goodell and can't a joke, screw him. But that is PFT and not an interview with Goodell so for what that 's worth
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If Goodell and can't a joke, screw him. But that is PFT and not an interview with Goodell so for what that 's worth
Especially after running out to a 21-3 lead, double ouch. Good for the Titans though
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Watching the Rams right now, wow what is happening?
And then Gurley just takes off.
I was about to say it may be time for a flea flicker
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That field in LA looks Soldier Field level shitty.
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Wow a playoff game with two of the worst QB's I've ever seen.
Both need a big trade up in the draft maybe a QB drops to 8???
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Someone would have to want Mayfield at 8 I think...
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Or the Wyoming guy
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Got this feeling that Atlanta is peaking at the right time.
Went to the dance last year ... had it won ... and lost.
Are they built for payback ?
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They are getting the right draw!
I feel any team but the Eagles will represent the NFC.
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If the Patriots are going to win every year ...
why would millennials want to tune in ?
Besides Belichik looks like a crusty old curmudgeon.
Realizing it's the fault of 31 other teams in not beating N.E.,
but when this shiit gets old and repetitive ... millennials are tuning elsewhere.
N.E. Patriots may have become such a perfect team ...
that they may have destroyed the NFL in TV ratings while doing so.
I blame it on Halas Hall for not kicking the shiit out of the Patriots since 1985.
You can't blame it on the other 30 teams.
It's our cross to bear.
Any sane BEARS fan would know what team we need to beat for all the marbles.
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Patriots destroying Tenn.....nothing to see here, move along....
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I want Nagy to be our Belichek for the next 10 years, and Trubisky to be our Brady, and Shaheed to be our Gronk. That could happen right? Maybe if they sell their souls to the devil or something....
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The Jags are smoking the Steelers, didnt expect this at all.
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Still early...
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Wow that Martavious Bryant, isn't he going to be a free agent.
If only his head can stay on straight
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Rothlisberger td passes are just kind of amazing.
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The jags probably knew already they're a quarterback away from being elite.
What would it take for a deal with them?
I would say a starting player, their first and second maybe third.
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The Saints are kind of pooping on themselves...
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Kind of looked like the refs wanted the Vikes to win, ala Packers. Go figure.
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The Saints had it won. That Saints #43 avoided contact and let the Vikings win. WTF?
All he had to do was tackle him and it was game over. Instead he dives away from him and even tucks his shoulder in to avoid contact.
Did he think the pass went over his head and that he would get a penalty for hitting a defenseless player? Or did he think he would be called with pass interference and that it wasn't caught?
SMH at the ineptness of #43. He is going to be hated in New Orleans after this.
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I believe I saw the jersey of #43 and Isnt that Monte T'eo the former ND linebacker?
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I believe I saw the jersey of #43 and Isnt that Monte T'eo the former ND linebacker?
no. do you even watch the games? Its Marcus Williams a rookie S.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTi4uDLWsAAiXg3.jpg)
#43 slow replay (https://twitter.com/_MarcusD2_/status/952717737499021312)
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47, 43? Whoever it was **** up bad. Almost like he had money on the Vikings.
I really did not care which team won but it was just a horrible, horrible decision by a football player who cost his team big time.
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Interesting to see where rookie RB's got their teams to.
We have a rookie RB and a stone cold Pro RB.
Just need a front office to build a team to support them.
Imagine what Howard & Cohen could do ...
if every team didn't stack the box to stop them ...
since they knew there were no WR's.
Some serious shiit could go on with airball if anybody was there to catch it.
We're committed to MT ... get him what he needs to succeed.
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I saw that missed tackle and wonder if the whole fine/hit on a defenseless player situation popped in his head.
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It was a kill shot so the receiver would never get out of bounds. If that happens Game Over.
But he kind of forgot that you need to open your eyes before making a tackle.
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There's too much of that kind of tackling going on in the game anymore. Just throwing your shoulder in instead of grabbing and wrapping up. And it cost them the game...
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I am sure he was afraid of getting PI called. I am sure the coaches preached it during the time out they just took. If he had hit him he would have been called for PI. In that still frame he was already under him and almost past him by the time he got his hands on the ball. I am sure he was trying to avoid taking the penalty and giving them the ball right there with one more play. He was even leaning away from contact and he took out his own teammate.
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Think the last four teams are telling their players not to wrap up and tackle ?
Can we expect late hits and penalty's up the ass ?
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JACKIES TRUE PROGRESSION PROGNASTATIONS :
Hey I'm making this words up as I go along.
Anyway heres what we want :
JACKSONVILLE - MINNISOTA in the SUPERBOWL !
Anything else is a boring rerun.
Besides Philly has a FUUCKING Traitor on their team in Alshon !
Who's the Honcho at Jackieville ?
You mean the guy that beat N.E. in two Superbowls with the Giants ?
What was his name again ?
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pats getting punched in the face over and over. didn't see that coming.
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If it wasn't for the referees N.E. would not even be in this game. B.S. calls in NE favor. Reminds me of G.B.
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20-17, nine minutes, you just know jags are going to get jobbed out of this one. rails are already greased. nfl throwing kraft a bone for deflategate.
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the f uck job machine is in top gear, nocall for jags, pi for jags. here it comes
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Jags goin down in flames.....figured Pats would win. Would have been nice to see Jags, but Pats have been there repeatedly and Jags haven't....and it's showing....
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WTH is happening to the Vikings defense?
Both teams I was rooting for lost or are losing.
Looks like an Eagles Pats SB and since I will root for the Eagles I am guessing the Pats will win again.
>:(
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For the first time in my life, I was actually pulling for the Queens only because the SB is up here and I thought it would be cool to see them choke in a "home SB game."
F uck em. That team are a bunch of losers just like their ignorant fans. Losing Shurmur will definitely bring them down a peg or two.
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Trey wayans just getting toasted
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Alshon having a game...
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Not surprised....
Who was it that said and Eagles fan thought the Eagles gave him too much money? Well, good luck in the Super Bowl.
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Not surprised....
Who was it that said and Eagles fan thought the Eagles gave him too much money? Well, good luck in the Super Bowl.
My friend who is an Eagles fan said it. You need to let your Alshon obsession go. The Bears made him an offer that was about the same as the extension he signed. He didnt want to be in Chicago so he left. Unless you think the Bears should have tagged him last year and just delayed him leaving for a year, I dont know why you think its important to gripe about a player wanting out over and over again.
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We were aware Jefferey wanted to go. He did and I wish him luck except when he plays the Bears.
I hope the Eagles win. Sick of the Patriots winning all the time.
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We now know that CHICAGO BEARS are one of two teams that can spank Patriots.
No use putting our hopes on any other team other then us.
Philly ain't going to get it done. It's up to us.
Green Bay beaten is what is needed to get to New England for their defeat.
BTW ... I hope Philly wins !
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Guess I wasn't aware that Pace had shared his contract dealings with certain member of this board.
Bears shouldn't have waited until the end of the season to start negotiations - they should have given him the deal during the season and not waited until signing the great Mike Glennon and expect Jeffery to stick with the club. He has the talent...we all saw it. We saw the acrobatic catches along the sideline, the fades in the end zone, the slants on 3rd down that picked up first downs. We saw these plays for years.
And why not tag him? Great idea. Maybe a year with Trubisky and he senses the Bears moving in the right direction....getting an offensive minded coach. Maybe he re-signs?
Yeah, I'm obsessed with Jefferey. I'm obsessed with the Bears stepping on their d*ck and letting talent walk out the door and get little or nothing in return.
Oh I'll get over it. Just like I got over the Bears not wanting to pay Greg Olsen too.
And FYI i'll gripe about whatever the hell I want to gripe about. That's what these boards are for.
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Jackie - Tom Coughlin
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Alshon wanted out of the Bears. When the Bears cut Marshall Alshon's lip started to drag the ground..
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Guess I wasn't aware that Pace had shared his contract dealings with certain member of this board.
Bears shouldn't have waited until the end of the season to start negotiations - they should have given him the deal during the season and not waited until signing the great Mike Glennon and expect Jeffery to stick with the club. He has the talent...we all saw it. We saw the acrobatic catches along the sideline, the fades in the end zone, the slants on 3rd down that picked up first downs. We saw these plays for years.
And why not tag him? Great idea. Maybe a year with Trubisky and he senses the Bears moving in the right direction....getting an offensive minded coach. Maybe he re-signs?
Yeah, I'm obsessed with Jefferey. I'm obsessed with the Bears stepping on their d*ck and letting talent walk out the door and get little or nothing in return.
Oh I'll get over it. Just like I got over the Bears not wanting to pay Greg Olsen too.
And FYI i'll gripe about whatever the hell I want to gripe about. That's what these boards are for.
Now youre just making things up, your timeline is way off. The Bears made the extension offer to him the prior season, after they tagged him the first time they had negotiations to extend him long term. He made it clear he didnt want to be in Chicago and the Bears didnt want to tag him again after he had a mediocre season last year. The rest of the NFL wasnt too interested either, thats why he ended up with a one year deal going into this season.
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Facts are wide receiver was just a very few short years ago a strength on this team. Now it's the biggest glaring weakness and the Bears should never have let that happen....letting talent walk is friggin ignorant!
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You have to let talent walk that dont want to be here. Its what the concept of free agency is all about...a choice of where you work
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And wasn't Jeffery quoted in January of 2017 that he believed the Bears were going to the Super Bowl? By March 9th he was a free agent...
From the Trib:
The Bears were interested in retaining Jeffery, 27, but only at a price that mitigated risk of his unavailability. As it turned out, Jeffery's market didn't develop to include the long-term deal he wanted. That he settled for a one-year deal elsewhere proved that a situation with clarity at quarterback appealed to him more than familiarity in Chicago.
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Jeffery didnt say the Bears were going to the super bowl, he said HE was going to the superbowl. lol
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So, something I found out this week.....one of the guys at my gym is Pat Shurmur's father in law. Would have been interesting if he had ended up in Chicago.
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So, something I found out this week.....one of the guys at my gym is Pat Shurmur's father in law. Would have been interesting if he had ended up in Chicago.
NYC is ambivalent about the signing so far.
It's kind of a Missouri "show me" deal.
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I'm the same with Nagy...ambivalent.
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I'm the same with Nagy...ambivalent.
We all are. What else could we be at this point in time ?
No down has been snapped at Soldiers.
It's going to happen though.
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WE'RE BACK...
https://www.cbssports.com/wwe/news/this-is-the-xfl-again-controversial-football-league-set-to-return-in-2020/
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Was it the Chicago Enforcers?
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Single bar helmets only. No replay. No challenges. Kick off from the twenty five. No protocols at all. A TON, and I mean A TON of money to the players. A bonus for taking out..... ok maybe that's too far. Limit the years they can play, say 3-4.
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It was the Chicago Blitz.
My wife came home with several shirts that she got real cheap. She was so happy until I told her the league folded and that was why they were so cheap. She thought I would be happy.
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No holding by the OLine, no silly defenseless receiver calls. No preferential treatment to the Tom Brady's and Peyton Manning's of the league. None of the ticky tacky pass interference calls.
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The Chicago Grizzlies! BANG! Over enflate, under enflate, stickum, spy cams, listening devices, drones, cheerleaders, and beer,beer,beer. Play Friday nights. Kickoff 7:00 pm local. Gotta be at least 18 to play and pass a physical. 18 and passing a physical gets your butt in the army, it sure as hell should get you on a football team to make money. People at that age should have the right to secure employment. Period.
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It was the Chicago Blitz.
My wife came home with several shirts that she got real cheap. She was so happy until I told her the league folded and that was why they were so cheap. She thought I would be happy.
No. The XFL team was the Enforcers. The Chicago Blitz was the USFL team.
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Let's try anything new. ;D
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I am inviting anyone who wants to get in on a Super Bowl pool to buy a square or two from this link. My daughter is not in the Competitive Cheer world this year but a good friends daughter still is. The instructions are below and I will guarantee this is not a scam. Please do not use a Vulgar name for the square name it is viewed by younger girls.
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*How It Works:*
1. Go to https://www.footballsquares.net/group/usa
2. Enter the following UserID and Password:
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4. Purchase your square(s) immediately by going to www.paypal.com to secure your square(s). Please select "Send to Friends/Family" and enter email booster501c3@gmail.com. Payments are also being accepted in person at the gym (Mondays thru Thursdays from 6-7:30pm or Saturday from 10:30am-12:30pm). In person payments can be either CASH or CHECK (checks will be accepted from USA members only).
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Alex Smith is now a Redskin. They gave up a third and their #2 corner. They extended Smith for 4 years.
Kirk Cousins will hit the market.
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Trib
4. So who could wind up winning the Cousins sweepstakes? Start the list, in no particular order, with the Browns, Jets, Broncos, Bills, Cardinals and Vikings. The Jaguars would be on this list, but there have been reports they will hang on to Blake Bortles.
We can only hope Cousins goes to Bills, Cards or Vikes. That way the Browns, Jets, Broncos and the Giants might go QB before our pick.
If that happened then either Chubb, Barkley, Fitzpatrick or Nelson fall to pick 8. If the 4 QBs don't go early then its more likely Bears go to trade down city.
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Fitz/Nelson would be ideal. i want it to be nelson so bad.
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Just curious....Who does Tampa Bay have thats so great they dont need a QB in a franchise QB draft? I dont get it. Also I dont get why the Texans arent in the Cousins or QB derby. And the Texans gave up their #4 to the Brownies.
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Seriously?
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#1 over all pick and hiesman winner Jameis "crab legs" Winston.
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Ha. No wonder they didnt win many games.
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YAAAAAAY !!!
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Somebody give me a cheesesteak !!!
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Congrats to Alshon and Corey Graham.
I would like the Bears to go after Malcolm Butler (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-super-bowl-cornerbacks-bears-biggs-20180131-story.html). Talk about someone with a chip on his shoulder.
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Depends on why he was benched
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You guys sure Belichek isn't going to sign the free agent Butler to a huge mega contract?
The Super Bowl benching certainly isn't going to enhance his price on the FA market. At 28 he could get a 3 year deal somewhere...maybe in Chicago. It's not like we have anyone signed for next year that is better than Butler.
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Well the one thing I am most excited about is a new strength and conditioning regime. God the last one blew chunks. Probably contributed to the Jeffery loss.
I am sure JJ is dancing in LaLa land
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Its now time to begin getting some studs in here to play football.
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Ryan Pace needs to do whatever it takes to go out and sign Chris Long. All the guy does is win superbowls.....
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...and LaGarrett Blount too.
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And Nick Foles too, all he does is beat Patriots and wins Super Bowls :o
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Seriously now.....we have all this cap room. Lets use it to sign studs not duds.
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They got Tarik Cohen and John Fox on this one. Couple of Jay Cuttler too.
https://youtu.be/3tUCuMSPQwE
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LOL, the McDaniels intro announcement (https://twitter.com/Colts/status/960990535795331072) is STILL on the Colts twitter page.
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...and every McD reference was just magically scrubbed.
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wow what an a$$hole. I'm thinking Toub is on speed dial now.
According to NFL Network's Mike Garafolo, Josh McDaniels' assistants, including DC Matt Eberflus, signed contracts with the Colts and are expected to remain with Indianapolis.
Talk about awkward. So, basically what's happening here, is McDaniels recruited these coaches to Indianapolis to be apart of his Colts staff, and then McDaniels backed out of the job, leaving Eberflus and others in limbo. According to Garafolo, Eberflus and others have already been in the building in Indy, breaking down film and whatever else, while they waited for McDaniels to officially be introduced. Now, the new Colts coach will be stuck with assistants he didn't hire. This whole situation is a complete mess with no real end game in sight. Feb 6 - 8:22 PM
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Bonus points to Pace for not hiring McDaniels!
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HAHA thats unreal. Thats worse than the Bears fiasco years ago.
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Disagree, I don't see the Colts did anything wrong.
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Difference is Virginia forced Mickey out of power. Irsay IS the owner and no one is going to get him out of power and only be the owner in name (although a large amount of pain-killers delivered on a regular basis may accomplish that if someone below his is Machiavellian enough).........
Eagles have got to be kicking themselves because this is supposed to be THEIR week of news and its been co-opted coincidentally (or not :) ) by the Patriots....
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Eagles fans deserve everything happens
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What do BEARS need to knock Eagles out of NFC championship ?
Almost every talking head has us taking Calvin Ridley in the first ...
(son of movie director Ridley Scott)
Halas Hall will digest the information and go with a long snapper.
Because if you think what is going to happen is according to logic ...
WRONG !
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Jimmy Garapolo the highest paid player???
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Disgusting. Another round of insane QB salary increases. Erin has his hand out and waiting. OTOH its the owners who are willing to pay it.
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hey c'mon don't be so harsh. $130,000,000.00 plus doesn't buy what it used to. He's gotta family to feed. You DO know who ends up paying that money, us. For what. Cure for cancer? no. Ship to Mars? no. For playing a game for a few years. All these pro sports salaries have gone to simply stupid. Offically dumped the ticket, espn, had a bear web feed, gone, ("we're sorry to see you go, could you tell us why?"). done. nfl, nba, mlb, nhl can go fry.
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Yes... how disgusting that a player makes money. IT should all go to the owners!
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Outrageously stupid.
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Did you watch him play? 27.5 a year is a good deal.
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How many games did he play?
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5, and his team was completely different in those 5 games.
This isnt to mention the years he's sat behind the GOAT training and waiting his time. its not like they took a kid straight out of college and handed him 90 million.
Lynch has shown himself to be a shrewd gm so far... dont think for one second he'd have made this move if they werent 100% sold on him.
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I guess after 5 games they should be convinced.
Strange how it took a little longer for other QB's like Rogers, Brady , Stafford to make the same case.
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Apples and oranges...none of those 3 were FA-eligible at the same point in their careers as Garappolo is (with respect to games played)...
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The guy should be paid....at the highest level yet? Stupid....
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Why should a guy who only won 5 games be given more than star players who have won big for years? Stupid.
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Why should a guy who only won 5 games be given more than star players who have won big for years? Stupid.
Because he asked for it and got it. It is what the market would give him. The owner was willing to pay for it. The team can afford it. Just a few reasons.
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I would throw in a little too desperate
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Desperate is definitely the correct call.
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How is it desperate when they could have just franchise tagged him?
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they just dont understand the tag's or free agency.
49ers could have tagged him this year for 24 million. then again next year for 28.8 (minimum) and then again the year after for 41.47 (140% of previous year, so if year 2 was higher this goes even higher).
Thats a total of 93.54 million over 3 years. They are assuming their assessment of him is correct. And paying him a premium in year 1, while saving money in years 2-5. they are giving a big guarantee, up front but they are not doing it from a position of desperation or niavette. They have had the player for 75% of the season. they have seen how he fits into the offense and what he can do.
If you watched him play, he is pretty damn good. I'd say top 8 qb in the league right now. This along with the fantastic fortune of being a QB that was about to be a FA at the age of 26 got him this deal.
I think the 49ers were smart to get this done now. if they had waited till after Cousins a QB who in my estimate is not as good as Garoppolo signs. They would have had to pay more.
Cousins is going to be the first 100 million guarantee player in the NFL. bu doing the deal now they didnt have to beat that for Jimmy G.
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And just for grins and giggles what does that do for Cousins? Who is going to step up at those prices? I think the Garoppolo deal is going to hurt Cousins, because nobody is going to be willing to step up for that kind of money. And I think that its going to cause needy teams that need QBs to get desperate enough to move up to #8 to grab what good QBs are still available.
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Lets see... The Browns, Vikings, Jets, and Jags all have the cap space and need for a QB like cousins.
it makes a LOT of sense for the Jags. Great young defense. good WR core, just a crap qb.
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The contact Garappolo should have had would be about mid range. But, Considering the market I would expect him to sign in the top third as far as contract value since he's a free agent and Cousins is the only other one.
To make him the highest payed player after only 5 games is a joke. he hasn't even demonstrated consistency over one full season yet.
Lynch got fleeced by an agent and his own ego.
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He won't be the highest paid QB for long.
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Erin has his hand out. He is very needy. So who gets the next bank breaker? Cousins? I dont think so. I think it will be somebody else. Look what happened when Osweiler got that deal from the Texans.
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Cousins... Soon to be the first 100 mill nfl player...
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I think the top FA QB is Cousins, though Brees is also up this year. And then there's the 3 Viking QBs Bradford, Keenum and Bridgewater.
The 49ers got the test drive with Grappolo, no way we're they going to let him get a way.
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Correct. Once they gave up the draft pick and then he played well they were going to sign him long term.
Garappolo held all of the cards.
Brees is better then Cousins but will never hit the market.
Rodgers is going to want to be the highest paid QB. He has already started talking about not finishing his career in Green Bay.
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I see what Washington did with Cousins and their inability to keep him happy and it doesnt bode well for somebody else wanting to sign him. Easier to find a QB in the draft and have him under control for 4 years. Then there is Foles who demonstrated ability. I think he is due a payday and not a backup job either. I still think somebody will want #8 to draft a QB instead of paying outrageous QB money.
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Somebody will pay Cousins...maybe the Vikings?
Foles is in his contract year so the Eagles could hold on to him as insurance for Wentz who tore his ACL pretty late in the season. Of course the Eagles might want to unload his 2018 salary and get a nice draft pick too. But that means gambling that Wentz will not only be ready to start the season but last the season injury free.
Maybe the Eagles sign Glennon as their backup...
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All of sports is ridiculously over paid. How the hell the NBA makes it is beyond me. I predict the NFL will continue to lose viewers. As far as Garappolo, timing was everything (and a shortage of quality QB's). Is he worth it after 5 games? Fukk no!
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If I am Philly, I may just keep Foles as insurance. They just won the Superbowl, their biggest hole is the one left if Wentz goes down again. They keep Foles another year, maybe let him play the first few games if Wentz isn't fully healed. It is very likely some team signs Foles after the season and they get a nice compensatory pick and they get to keep him another year.
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MEANWHILE ...
Johnny Manziel has been diagnosed as Bi-Polar.
Fortunately for his ass he knows it.
And is taking medication to correct it.
So he found out what his problem was and is correcting it.
Which begs the quekstion when BEARS training camp starts ...
should he be there ?
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Nope!
He sucks and is a bad team mate and a bad influence.
Brandon Marshall was bipolar but he was talented and was still a bad influence.
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Nope!
He sucks and is a bad team mate and a bad influence.
Brandon Marshall was bipolar but he was talented and was still a bad influence.
Brandon Marshall did snag that nifty TV contract ... for bein nuts and all ...
Manziel as a color analyst ?
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Geez what a freak. Perhaps he wasn't as much as he is mentally ill? The guy pretty much de-railed incognito's career.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/23/report-jonathan-martin-taken-into-custody/
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Rams tagging safety LaMarcus Joyner - is Sammy Watkins hitting the open market?
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And no tag for the Jags Allen Robinson either...
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Cousins apparently has a 3 year 91 million dollar deal on the table from the Vikings. Fully Guaranteed.
so not 100 million... but wow. I'll bet he signs at 4 years 110 million with 100 mill guaranteed. he can then hit FA again at 33.
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Richard Sherman has apparently said good bye to all his team mates.
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Michael Bennett is on the way to the defending champions.
The Seahawks have agreed to trade Bennett and a seventh-round pick to the Eagles for backup receiver Marcus Johnson and a fifth-round pick, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN.
Bennett had been widely perceived to be on the trading block as the Seahawks attempt to put together a younger, cheaper defense. Bennett and has three years left on his contract and has a cap hit of $7.4 million in 2018. The Eagles don’t have a lot of cap space, but they’ve decided to take on a fairly expensive veteran as they seek to win another Super Bowl.
The speedy Johnson joined the Eagles as an undrafted free agent out of Texas in 2016. He hasn’t played much and has just five catches in his NFL career, but he may be able to add something to the Seahawks’ offense in an offseason when the Seahawks are making big changes on their defense.
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It looks like they are planning on trading up higher then number 8.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/09/bills-now-have-two-picks-in-each-of-the-first-three-rounds/
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Browns ship Kizer to the Packers for a CB and send out a third for Tyrod Taylor. Landry goes to the Browns as well.
As a ND fan, its going to be rough for me to root for Kizer to suck.
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He will never play and already has sucked.
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Just saw where Sherman signed with 49ers. Gotta say Lynch seems to be really building the team into a winner (obviously still to be seen) quickly. He is making great trades, signing some top FA and drafting well. He kinda makes Pace look like he is slacking.
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I agree it looks like Lynch is doing a good job, he got Garapolo , who I wanted the Bears to get, for a good price, but Sherman is coming off a major injury and may never be the same. It will be interesting to see how quickly they get back to contending.
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Maybe it's my hate for the 9ers, but I hope Lynch fails.
last year he moved back into the first round for Ruben Foster, who everyone knew was a head case.
Now Foster's been arrested twice this off season and his availablility is uncertain. Then giving Garropolo the huge contract, throwing money at Sherman, Is Lynch just aggressive or foolish?
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This has effect on the whole NFL as well as the Bears and the draft:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/browns-wild-36-hour-trading-spree-reportedly-left-other-nfl-teams-stunned/
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Sammy Watkins is getting 3/48 (30 guaranteed) from the Chiefs.
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I could be mistaken but I thought the NFL network said Miami
It was Wilson, my bad
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Chief expected to sign Watkins.
Brees stays with N.O. 2 years $50 million.
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Well it didn't take Cousins long to sign.
I thought he would let the bargaining play out.
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When a team offers you a contract that's the highest in NFL history you don't haggle.
Cousins, Rodgers, and Stafford in our division - time to get some defenders.
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Until you can beat the teams in your division twice you arent going to the playoffs. To do that you need a defense and an offense. We have too many unfilled holes now to even escape the cellar in the NFC North.
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Graham to the Pack? Heaven help us
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That nauseates me. He's probably good for 15 TD's in that offense.
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Between the Pack having to make Rodgers the highest paid player in NFL history and this signing I am guessing the Packers are hard against the cap and will likely have to let some other players go.
Randall Cob or Jordy Nelson will likely be let go due to cap reasons. Seems like a wash to me.
Jimmy Graham set to sign with Packer
Posted by Josh Alper on March 13, 2018, 4:24 PM EDT
The Packers said they were going to take a different approach to free agency under General Manager Brian Gutekunst and that approach has reportedly yielded its first fruit.
According to multiple reports, the Packers have agreed to terms with tight end Jimmy Graham on a three-year contract. As with all the agreements being struck during the “legal tampering” window, Graham’s deal can’t become official until the start of the new league year on Wednesday afternoon.
The Packers had a vacancy at tight end after last year’s Martellus Bennett signing went south midway through the year and Graham gives Aaron Rodgers a big target to shoot for in the coming season. There’s been speculation that the Packers might move on from either Randall Cobb or Jordy Nelson for cap reasons and the departure of either wideout would make the presence of Graham even more significant.
The Saints were trying to lure Graham back to New Orleans and quarterback Drew Brees mentioned the tight end in his first comments after signing a new deal on Tuesday. They’ll have to look elsewhere for help at tight end as long as Graham’s deal with Green Bay moves forward as planned.
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If Graham can stay healthy...
Nelson was cut
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Offense is not the Pack's problem with a healthy Rodgers. They will go heavy on defense in the draft.
We better re-sign Willie Young - I don't want to see him in Puke Green next season. And bring back Acho, Houston, Unrein...and I like Cunningham too. And I liked our punter O'Donnel.
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Graham hasn't been effective since his NOrleans days.
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They dont really need any WR's while they have magic release Rodgers around....
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Yes, Graham will be 32. Yes, Graham only had 500 or so yards. Yes, Graham had his lowest yards per catch of his career.
Yes, Graham had only 10 TDs...oh well, we just need to sign a 6-7 cornerback to guard him in the redzone.
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Graham was really good 5 years ago. It's not like he is going to get better at 32.
Jordy Nelson is STILL open deep in the Bears secondary.
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As a Bears fan if getting Graham cost them Nelson then I am all for them getting Graham.
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Maybe we should be looking to sign Jordy. Although probably not now that we already signed two WR's.
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Saw this today from the Jets: Report: McCown informed he will be starter
(note to Josh: don't believe them - with the 6th pick in the draft it's not going to be your year)
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This may sound goofy, but if I am the Browns and I am in love with both Darnold and Barkley. Why not trade up from 4-2 and get both for sure? I expect the Giants to take Barkley or trade out of #2. They have a ton of needs. They could use the picks that the Browns have stashed. Plus moving down 2 picks isnt going to kill them. They can still get a QB.
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Or Browns simply take Barkley at 1. Giants and Colts are not sure things to take a QB. You might not get Darnold at 4 since Giants would be getting offers, but Browns might get Rosen or Allen.
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Gee, Cardinals fans must be thrilled they signed Sam Bradford, and now have reportedly reached agreement with Glennon.
They draft 15, surely they would look to move up.
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That is a great QB room. But two terrible QB's on game day.
They are drafting a QB.
Likely already have deals in place to move up.
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Bradford was on fire before he injured his knee (124 rating) - if he's healthy Cardinals got a pretty good QB.
If Cards feel they must draft a QB they might find Rudolph or Lamar Jackson at 15.
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I do not understand why we do not go after Nelson - so, so year last year - but year before he was great. Your receiving corps fo way up then to a strength.
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Nelson is old. Look at the ages or the players we targeted. By the time the Bears expect to be really competing he will be done and we will be looking to fill that hole again. Not to mention the fact that he knows this and the only reason he would sign is for big $ since he knows it wont be to compete for another SB.
Just say no.
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Nelson will soon be 33. Its unusual for a WR to be as productive as he was in his 30s. Big dropoff last year but some of that could be from the QB situation. He might have a year or two left but not at what he once was. Someone will sign him.
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Nelson should take Amendols's place in New England.
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Honey Badger is released! Wow!
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Gotta have money to pay Glennon!
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It will be interesting to see what Glennon's contract looks like - but sitting behind Bradford there's a good chance he'll play for the Cards.
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Interesting tidbit on the full guarantee of Cousin's contract. There is an old NFL rule that any money that is guaranteed in a players contract the team has to give that money over to the league for them to hold in escrow and paid out to the player.
This rule was made to prevent some owner from handing out guaranteed money that they couldn't afford. Also to prevent an owner from guaranteeing a contract then selling the team to someone else who would be on the hook for that money. If Zygi were to sell the team for instance the new owner would owe Cousins $0.00. All that money would still be counted against the cap in those years but Zygi would have already paid the contract not the new owner. The new owner could cut the player (if they sucked) and not owe them a penny (player still gets the money owed them from the escrow account). All the cap rules and restrictions would still apply though.
Ehhh... I just found the conversation interesting when talking about the guaranteed contracts and guaranteed monies.
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Dolphins signed Sitton to a 2-year deal, but they also released Mike Pouncey.
He would be a nice fit for us at C, with Whitehair moving to G...
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Just came here to post about Pouncey for a couple years.
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I didn't realize how much Alex Smith's contract extension was worth, 74m guaranteed. It would seem unless Cousins just wanted out that the Skins didn't save much money by getting Smith and got someone that may not be as good that was older.....
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Raiders signed Jordy Nelson to a 2-year deal, and released Michael Crabtree.
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I saw that. So why did the Raiders release Crabtree? Seems he was productive. Should the Bears have interest in Crabtree?
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They gave Crabtree money to Nelson, despite Jordy being two years older and having one foot in the grave.
If I was Pace, I'd definitely be interested in Crabtree.
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Thats what I instantly thought. Go Pace. No need to waste a draft pick on WR.
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unless Cousins just wanted out
That is exactly what he wanted. That is why he kept playing on the tag and collecting money. The relationship with the front office was toxic.
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That it was. Absolutely. Watch and see how they do without him. Suck City!
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He is right. There will be a lot more fumbles by receivers now.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/27/dan-quinn-new-catch-rule-will-mean-more-completions-more-fumbles/
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Read this morning that the Rams signed Ndamukong Suh to a 1 year deal. So I guess he lines up at NT next to Aaron Donald and Michael Brockers in their 3-4 alignment. All 3 first rounders.
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Isn't the game of football all about getting lower then the other person for leverage? How the **** can you flag a RB for lowering his helmet. If you lower your shoulder your head will follow and there will be incidental contact.
Now if they are only going to flag obvious attempts to use the helmet as a weapon I am fine with it. We have all seen those types of attempts. However that is not how they say the rule is stated. Seems to me if you make contact with your helmet offense or defense it is a penalty. We are going to see a ton of flags and it is going to be called so many different ways it is going to make the game frustrating as **** to watch. Once again they have made a rule that every ref will call differently. NFL **** up again.
And right after they seem to have finally gotten the "catch" rule correct.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/27/nfl-passes-rule-against-lowering-head-to-initiate-contact-with-helmet/
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Walter Payton would have been screwed.
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MRob, Dwayne Bates, Berrian, Bobby Wade, and now Kendall Wright wearing purple.
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He's already stacking up good Karma for some insane catch.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23103319/green-bay-packers-quarterback-aaron-rodgers-meets-dalai-lama
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Wow:
It’s Dez Bryant‘s last day as a Cowboy.
The Cowboys are cutting Bryant today, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports.
That’s the decision that makes the most sense, given Bryant’s big contract and small production. Bryant is due a base salary of $12.5 million this year, and his level of play simply doesn’t justify anything close to that kind of salary anymore.
Although Bryant was once among the league’s elite receivers, he hasn’t been the same player since signing a five-year, $70 million contract three years ago.
Bryant will now become an unrestricted free agent and will shop his services to receiver-needy teams. He’ll surely find a market for his services, just not a market willing to pay him $12.5 million this season.
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Yeah.....Ho hum. I am not sure the Bears will be eager. Of course thats before Merideth left. Who knows what Pace will do now. I just really dont know how much gas Bryant has left in the tank.
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Browns now considering Mayfield at 1... what bout Darnold?
I think Allen is going to be the bust of the group. Darnold/Mayfield will be the gamers. Rosen has a good shot but i am not a huge fan of his.
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Allen certainly has the longest way to go in developement.
Darnold played some really bad and some really ineffective football last year but it's the heroics that are remembered.
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Darnold was a turnover machine. A whopping 13 picks and 11 fumbles his last year at USC.
No thanks - I'm happy with Trubisky.
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Browns are milking the spotlight. This is there winning season - the draft that is. Remember how Kizer was the smart choice last draft? Thinking Barkley or Darnold. If they are really that undecided on a QB, then take Barkley and what ever QB the Jets don't take... unless that Giants draft one or trade out.
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Darnold was a turnover machine. A whopping 13 picks and 11 fumbles his last year at USC.
No thanks - I'm happy with Trubisky.
Agreed. He certainly isnt much better than Kizer.
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Steelers have traded Martavis Bryant to Oakland for a 3rd round pick (#75 overall).
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Browns are milking the spotlight. This is there winning season - the draft that is. Remember how Kizer was the smart choice last draft? Thinking Barkley or Darnold. If they are really that undecided on a QB, then take Barkley and what ever QB the Jets don't take... unless that Giants draft one or trade out.
So the Browns take Mayfield and Ward? Winning.
I like Ward, but those two picks were both questionable top 7 picks. Mayfield is a bit on the short side, and plays with an edge. Brett Favre comparisons? That's pretty strong.
Those two going in the top 7 definitely pushed Smith to us and we got one of the 5 picks I was hoping for at 8. Smith, Nelson, Fitzpatrick, Ward, or Edmunds. I would have been happy with any of those at 8, and I am glad that Pace does not pull the McClellan pick and reach for Davenport of Landry.
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Well we have to do something about Edge/OLB. Hopefully nobody grabs Carter before #39.
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I wonder if we are still looking to move up? Maybe for Landry?
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Wasn't worried that Pace would reach for Davenport or Landry - but he might have taken them after a trade down.
I was kind of concerned that Pace might have been tempted to trade up after Nelson was still there at 6 with the Colts.
Pace confirmed he was trying to get into R1. I don't think whoever he was after was taken so a trade up tonight is possible as is a trade down.
And yeah, Landry.
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Cowboys tight end Jason Witten recently said he plans to play until he’s 40. Those plans have quickly changed.
ESPN has announced (essentially) that Witten now plans to retire from the NFL and become “a lead analyst” on Monday Night Football. Witten intends to meet with Cowboys owner/G.M. Jerry Jones before finalizing the decision.
Witten, a future Hall of Famer and 15-year veteran who turns 36 on May 6, joins former teammate Tony Romo with high-profile TV gigs, if Witten takes the job.
The presence of the phrase “a lead analyst” in the de facto announcement suggests that there could be another analyst in the booth, making it potentially a three-person operation. Joe Tessitore is slated to become the play-by-play announcer on Monday night.
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well this takes one team out of OL moves in the 2nd... they will go TE.
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Matt Ryan extension, 5yr, $150m, $100m guaranteed! Go Arun, get that big extension!
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Thats one one he's been waiting on... so he should be agreeing to a 151 million 101 mill guaranteed contract shortly.
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Maybe Erin will try for double. I really doubt sincerely the Pack will go for that. Yeah he's valuable, yeah he is underpaid, but the Pack need to pay him. The trouble is the Pack is a corporation not a family owned business. We'll see how this comes out. I'll be watching this.
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Too funny, but not surprising:
Josh Rosen gets first team snaps at Cardinals OTAs. Sam Bradford given a day off and Mike Glennon vomited on the field (he actually did vomit that's not a euphemism for his play)
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That boy has pocketed about 22 million dollars (https://overthecap.com/player/mike-glennon/2224/) over the last year...even if/when he gets cut before the season starts.
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I've been thinking about this whole anthem issue, why not let the players wear some pendant or ribbon or something to show their support for their cause and then stand for the anthem. The NFL could even come up with the design and sell it to the public and raise money to help the cause.
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navigator, Because that may actually do something about the issue the player supposedly cares about and will not cause even more division in the country.
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The Eagles Are Confused By The NFL's Confusing New Helmet Rule (https://deadspin.com/the-eagles-are-confused-by-the-nfls-confusing-new-helme-1827967152)
During the presentation, which lasted close to an hour according to Bradham, players were shown clips of what are now considered illegal hits — some of which appeared to them as routine tackles. Seeking further clarification during the Q&A that followed, the players showed the presenters a video of safety Malcolm Jenkins’ hit on wide receiver Brandin Cooks during Super Bowl LII that knocked Cooks out of the game. The refs were split on whether it would now be considered an illegal hit.
Said linebacker Nigel Bradham, “We were trying to ask questions to get a better understanding, and yet they couldn’t really give us an answer. They couldn’t give us what we were looking for.”
“[The refs] were kind of like, ‘Hey, we didn’t make the rules.’ Because I think guys were kind of frustrated,” running back Wendell Smallwood added. “Most of the defense was like, ‘Man, how are we supposed to tackle?’ They were frustrated.”
From the Trib
As Bears inside linebacker Nick Kwiatkoski watched the NFL’s 2018 rules changes video Saturday night, he noticed a trend in the montage of tackles that will be considered illegal under the new rule that prohibits a player from initiating contact with his helmet.
“Some of the plays don’t look like anything vicious,” Kwiatkoski said. “It looks like a normal play to me.”
NFL video on helmet rule (https://twitter.com/NFLFootballOps/status/1002980668089831425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicagotribune.com%2Fsports%2Ffootball%2Fbears%2Fct-spt-bears-rules-change-tackle-head-20180725-story.html)
It turns out — wow — he’s right. Veteran referee Walt Coleman played the video for reporters Monday, and some of these newly-prohibited tackles seem entirely ordinary. So common, in fact, that the ramifications could be seismic.
This subset of tackles goes beyond the obviously illegal hits in which a player launches himself like a missile into an opponent, like Danny Trevathan’s suspension-earning head shot on Devante Adams. That blow appeared in the video as an example of a hit that will result in an ejection. In addition to those, there are now illegal hits that seem to result from incidental or unavoidable contact the tackler initiates with his helmet. The new rule reads, simply: “It is a foul if a player lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent.” The contact doesn’t have to be helmet-to-helmet, and it applies to offensive and defensive players just the same. Suddenly, parts of a routine play could be illegal, drawing a 15-yard penalty. That has left coaches, players and even game officials anxious this preseason to see how the rule will be enforced.
“In the past, it has just been football for us,” said Coleman, who’s entering his 30th NFL season. “Now, it has gone from being a regular football play to being a foul. So, it’s going to be how fast do the players adjust, and how fast do we adjust that that is a foul? It’s going to be a challenge.”
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This just in.... Dam Darnold threw his first completion after signing his contract. He followed that up with picking his nose and wiping in the center's towel. We can't show the video due to team rules.
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Good tackling technique involves tackling with your head up not with the crown of the helmet. Blindly ramming your head into an opponent with your head down leads to head and neck injuries for the tackler not to mention injuries to unintended targets (see Kyle Fuller's whiff tackle that took out Leonard Floyd).
I think its a good rule as long as they flag it only in obvious situations.
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So far I've see a lot of training camp here and there on the NFLN and Bears reports.
I have yet to see any hitting or tackling drills at all.
I realize most of that kind of practice was eliminated in the last CBA but training camp looks so easy. Most of the time any given player is standing around while someone else in his position group is doing some simple drill. Or it's he old "takes two steps left and lift your right leg" type of drills.
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Save the hitting/tackling for the preseason games. Too much money tied up in these guys to get injured in training camp.
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They are ruining football. This is **** STUPID!
The Walter Payton dive over the pile is now going to be a loss of yardage because he would have given himself up at the point of the dive.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/08/04/nfl-rules-will-now-treat-head-first-dives-like-feet-first-slides/
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Wow the Browns had 8 first round picks 2012-2016 and none of them are on the roster now.
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Shaq Lawson - DL - Bills
Bills DE Shaq Lawson has repped with the backups at training camp.
The Bills are going with Trent Murphy opposite Jerry Hughes. Lawson struggled with injuries as a rookie and had just four sacks as a full-time starter last year. Buffalo may try to shop Lawson for a conditional late-round pick before Week 1.
Source: ESPN Aug 8 - 5:01 PM
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Phone Pace to call the Bills
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There is no reason 15 teams wouldnt happily give up a conditional 5th for lawson...
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Someone here was really high on Shaq Lawson as I recall.....
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Rodgers signs a 134M 4 year extension.
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I was hoping he would get 200m :-)
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Aaron Rodgers new deal with the Packers will be with $176m-180m total, per source. Big feature is cash flow: $67m before end of calendar, over $80m before St. Patrick’s Day next year, $103m practically guaranteed, per source.
Wow, he will receive a bonus + salary this year of 67M, and another roster bonus of 16 M before march of next year. 80M in the next 7 months.
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The Green Bay Packers have agreed to a four-year contract extension with quarterback Aaron Rodgers worth $134 million, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network.
Rodgers is expected to receive $80 million between now and March.
James Jones of NFL Network added that Rodgers will have over $100 million in guarantees.
Adam Schefter of ESPN provided additional details of the deal:
Adam Schefter
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Aaron Rodgers new deal with the Packers will be with $176m-180m total, per source. Big feature is cash flow: $67m before end of calendar, over $80m before St. Patrick’s Day next year, $103m practically guaranteed, per source.
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Schefter first reported the new deal was close and was "expected to be the largest in NFL history." Rodgers had two years remaining on his current contract.
The 34-year-old had a cap hit of about $20.6 million in 2018, which put him 14th among quarterbacks, per Spotrac.
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And the Jets trade Teddy Bridgewater to the Saints.
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Local ESPN radio guys says how good this contract is for the NFL and that it will increase pay for everybody because the NFL players generate so much income and are not equally compensated.
What this means is that we pay more for stadium tickets, more for NFL ticket, more for products advertised on games etc etc.
Will Rogers ever spend $134M - would he ever spend half that? Kind of like CEO pay.
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Saints got a very good backup and potential starter when/if Brees retires.
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Are you really criticizing the player for the contract he got? The team thinks thats fair value or they wouldn't have done the deal... and the owners are making a killing. They can freeze prices and still make a killing.
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Yes. I am not siding with ownership or the players. Sports salaries these days are nuts as well as what an average fan has to pay.
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Players get 47% of the the 'defined' pie... as the pie grows their salaries keep going up. Good. they are the ones putting their health on the line.
If this means that the GB cant pay WR's as much... that is their issue to deal with. Increasing prices at games has nothing to do with player salaries, but the sustained push for higher profits.
Owners could choose to FREEZE revenues on ticket sales, lowering the pie available to players... instead they choose to bilk every dime out of you... and you blame players.
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The market decides. The market decides what the players make and the market decides what the owners make. If the prices go to high no one will go and the players and owners make no money. Obviously that is an extreme that will not happen unless the owners are really stupid. The players are also involved as well but ultimately the owners make the decisions. The owners and players have to walk a fine line to get the most for both while each getting as much as they can for themselves. Players kneeling during the anthem helps neither.
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What percent does the average owner make on stadium/gameday revenue? They equally split the television pie, so that stadium and swag revenue is the difference. I know Jerry Jones is the outlier....
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I think the thing a lot of folks don't understand about NFL owners i(and super rich folks in general) is that their value is not how much money they have in the bank at the moment but in the amount of future earnings potential they have. Right now an NFL franchise is still a golden goose- its like printing money. And the hoary old adage "it takes money to make money" still applies....
I would guarantee Jerry Jones does not have as much "cash on hand" as you'd think for a multi-billionaire (still tons for common folks such as you and I but bankers and high investors look at things differently than us peons). A ton of it is invested with a return of some sort expected- he doesn't sleep on piles of $100 bills.
A billionaire needs to be as cash poor as he can be able in order to avoid taxes as much as possible. And the interest and investment income needs to be re-plowed into investments that grow more than the taxes payed on it. Its a different world from the average person (although some of the same principles apply that sadly, too many folks ignore).
Aaron Rodgers getting paid is a good thing- maybe his arrogance (he and some other starters are not traveling in the final PS game to be with his team) bodes well for our week 1 game. Here's hoping the Bears can start the Packers out at 0-1 in their "Centennial" season :D
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wners could choose to FREEZE revenues on ticket sales, lowering the pie available to players... instead they choose to bilk every dime out of you... and you blame players
Actually they can reduce prices and make even more of a killing. Atlanta found this out when they reduced all concessions. They made more money with lower prices and increased game day sales. I heard an interview with a marketing director for the Deadskins and he mentioned that they are reviewing their concession prices based on the results Atlanta got. He said it most likely will become a trend in the industry.
Imagine that. I might buy 6 $2.00 beers but only one $6.00 beer at a game. I might be more inclined to buy the whole family $2.00 hot dogs during a game instead of eating before the game and not spending $6.00 on a hot dog. I am glad at least one owner figured this out.
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$9 for a friggen Bud light last game I went to so I passed.
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I was gonna say, $6 is a bargain for a beer these days. $9 or 10
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$9 Budweiser is a bargain at a Live Nation concert...
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Actually they can reduce prices and make even more of a killing. Atlanta found this out when they reduced all concessions. They made more money with lower prices and increased game day sales. I heard an interview with a marketing director for the Deadskins and he mentioned that they are reviewing their concession prices based on the results Atlanta got. He said it most likely will become a trend in the industry.
Imagine that. I might buy 6 $2.00 beers but only one $6.00 beer at a game. I might be more inclined to buy the whole family $2.00 hot dogs during a game instead of eating before the game and not spending $6.00 on a hot dog. I am glad at least one owner figured this out.
This works on concessions as they are not limited, they will always have more beer and dogs to sell. there are only so many seats available though.
Also, Concessions are not part of Defined revenue, the players dont get a piece of that pie.
NFL generated 14 Billion in revenue last year. total players salaries was 3.56 billion, those terrible greedy players... the nerve!
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Not blaming the players - can't blame them for trying to get as much as they can. But your remark about them risking their careers is somewhat true, but what about policeman and fireman?
It's really the whole entertainment business - who pays the singers at concerts, actors in movies, players at games....we do. It's just really escalated over the years.
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Imagine having Mack and Donald lining up on the same team (https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/09/05/khalil-mack-trade-draft-picks-rams-raiders).
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Rams run a 3-4 with Suh and Donald on the line, but they really don't have any good edge guys (they lost Quinn to the Dolphins). So I see why they were interested.
They'd definitely would have had some cap challenges with Suh and Gurley contracts, and Goff will want to get paid in a year or two. But this team is already a Super Bowl contender - Mack would have solidified it.
Sorry Rams - he's a Bear!
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Raiders made the trade with the Bears because they expect the Bears to have a worse record than the other contenders meaning the picks would be higher.
Also on the score this week the calculated the trade using the Jimmy Johnson point system and concluded the Bears traded the equivalent of the fourth pick in the draft for Mack.
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Lovie's Illini looking like hot garbage against what should be an inferior opponent.
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Mahomes is a STUD!!!! I hope we dont look back in 5 or 10 years and say I wish we had taken him over Trubisky.....just saying.
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ND looks like garbage too. They beat Ball You barely then lowley Indiana U tromps Ball You. They dont have their usual high quality OLne. Wonder what happened to their OLine coach?
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Cam Meredith’s first catch as a Saint is a TD pass from Brees...
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Any chance the Bills can put it together two times in a row? Pack up next.
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Lol. I guess anything is possible this year.
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Has anyone seen otter?
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lol
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HMMMM, I remember calls for hiring Gruden for coach when we were looking for one.
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Heard a stat on the radio this morning on the way into work.
Mack has more sacks, stripped fumbles and pick six's than the who Raiders defense.
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This gem from https://www.dailynorseman.com/2018/9/23/17894088/minnesota-vikings-buffalo-bills-game-recap:
Reiff’s play was particularly egregious, given that he’s the highest-paid member and the de facto leader of the offensive line. Jerry Hughes ate Reiff’s lunch all afternoon on Sunday. Not only did Hughes eat Reiff’s lunch, he followed Reiff home, and when Reiff went to the refrigerator to get himself a snack, Hughes ate that, too.
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The Viking/Bills game was the biggest upset against the point spread in 23 years!
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/sports-columns/todd-dewey/bills-stun-vikings-in-biggest-nfl-upset-in-23-years/
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Clay Matthews can **** and cry all he wants, but the way the rule is written, it’s a penalty...all day, every day.
The rule is stupid, but the NFL wants to be Sarcastaball, so...
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Bears lead the league in sacks - but I don't recall them getting ANY roughing the passer calls. Matthews did the same thing last week against the Vikes and it cost them the game. Almost cost them the game against the Bears too.
Stay off the 'roids dude.
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Jon Bostic is starting at LB for the Steelers.
That is **** brutal.
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Speaking of ex Bears, I just watched Chirs Conte get humiliated and used like a b itch on mnf. Awful.
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Yeah Conte got rolled bad. He either makes plays (occasionally) or has plays made against him (more often). Unfortunately for his sake he get hurt a lot as he throws himself around (or is thrown around :D).
I think he got hurt last night too....
Thought I saw Bostic but was not legendary pre-season Jon "boom" Bostic but his brother...
Damn I watch too much football.... :D
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Jon Bostic has played for the Colts and the Pats since leaving the Bears...now a Steeler.
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Thought he had a brother that played too.... As I said, too I've watched too much football :D
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Amari Cooper to Dallas for a 2019 1st rounder...
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Jerrah got taken for a ride.
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Cowboys are desperate at WR. They have a bunch of #3s and #4s. Cooper will help them and Gruden will have 3 number 1 picks in 2019.
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Amari has led the league in drops every year in the league. He's worth no more then a 3. Jerrah bid against himself and lost as always.
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Just needs some stick-um
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Speaking of stick-ums, man Hopkins is sure fun to watch.
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Funny how David Carr and Jameis Winston were up and coming stars and now both so deep in the dog house.
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NFL does stand for "Not for Long". The season being as short as it is, good and bad play is amplified 10x.
I think it gets harder to see the forest for the trees, so to speak, since there are not a lot of games to base decisions on in a single season, and as such, emotions tend to ride higher than if it were like a 32 game season or some such...
That said, wouldn't have it any other way....
Go BEARS !
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Interesting read about the failings of the 15' draft class.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-trade-deadline-reveals-ugly-truth-2015-draft-class-061639654.html
Appears the draft is getting tougher to spot the stars among the stumps. Bears have thankfully turned a corner in the draft and are getting some quality, finally.
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Pretty much 3 out of 10 are successes.
And that's not the only draft class like that.
Theat's why I dismiss people complaining that wnnling games will hurt the Bears draft position. The reality is the more players you can get in the top 100 stands a better chance for good players than how high in the first round you draft.
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So the Bears can win all they want the next couple of years and not worry about where they draft in round 1.
But the Bears are not looking good for getting many opportunities on that top 100 chart.
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So the Bears can win all they want the next couple of years and not worry about where they draft in round 1.
Who is worried about winning games this year or next year? I want to win games not lose games. How silly can you be? Most sane people know they have given up their 1st round pick in 2019 and 2020. But that doesnt stop those people from wanting better talent for their team. And the better we do also diminishes the cost of those 2 picks we gave up. Put your booze down and wake up.
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Oh brother...
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Oakland's 2 is looking really nice about now...
Wouldn't it be great if we won the Superbowl after the 2019 season and Oakland finished last, effectively giving them are 2019 1st round choice and swapping 32 for 33, in 2020 - for Mack? LOL
That would be a dream!
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Vikings win ugly over Detroit 24-9...
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The Rams cornerbacks are holding and pushing almost every pass. They have mugged the Saints receivers.
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I thought the Rams were supposed to have a great defense? Brees barely touched.
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Stafford cannot be happy that his security blanket was traded away.
Last week, Patricia scolded (https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2018/10/31/matt-patricia-lions-news-conference/1832326002/) a reporter for asking a Tate question while not sitting up properly.
Today's headline on the Detroit rag...
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For those who wanted to keep Cam:
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Wednesday saw developments on a couple of fronts in the Saints wide receiver corps.
Dez Bryant agreed to join it on a one-year deal and Cameron Meredith sat out of practice with a knee injury. It was easy to connect the dots between those two things and it’s even easier with a Thursday report about Meredith’s condition.
Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Meredith is having arthroscopic surgery on his knee and will be placed on injured reserve. Meredith signed with the Saints as a free agent this offseason after missing all of last year with a torn ACL.
Meredith did not play the first two weeks of the season, but has seen action in the last six games. He caught nine passes for 114 yards and a touchdown in his first three appearances and has not caught a pass in the last three weeks.
Meredith saw action on 126 snaps in his six appearances. Some of that work could be headed Bryant’s way over the second half of the season.
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Kudos to Pace (and the Bears medical staff) for not matching the Meridith deal.
The report I read said that Meridith also sustained ligament damage to the same knee in the preseason which may explain why he wasn't playing much to start the season.
Even though he's not a Bear any longer I'll be rooting for him to make a full recovery.
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Well that makes sense about Meredith. I thought he would be a good resign but obviously the Bears doctors knew something. Pace has been making great moves, so does not surprise me.
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Dez Bryant waited for the right fit, appeared to land it, and in just his second practice, he may already be out for the year.
The newly signed New Orleans Saints wide receiver suffered what the team fears is a torn Achilles, according to a report from the NFL Network.
ESPN reported the injury occurred on the last play of Friday’s practice.
The Saints, shortly after news of the injury broke, released the final injury report for their game Sunday against the Cincinnati Bengals. Bryant was listed as a limited participant with an ankle injury and was designated as questionable for Sunday’s game.
Bryant, whom the Dallas Cowboys released in April, had just signed a one-year deal with New Orleans on Wednesday after holding off on signing offers from other teams, citing a desire for the right fit with a contender.
“I’m always going to be me, you know, who I am,” Bryant said Thursday after his first practice with the Saints. “I’m not a bad guy. I’ve always been a good guy. You can ask my teammates — my ex-teammates — how I am. I love the locker room. It’s like family. Every locker room that I’ve been in — from middle school, high school, college, to the pros — it’s always been like a family.”
Bryant, 30, was expected to help New Orleans make a potential Super Bowl push by providing depth in the passing game. He was set to enter his ninth season in the league.
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The Bucs had 498 yards of total offense today.
They scored 3 points.
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To state the obvious, that is doggone tough to do.
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I hope others are watching this game tonight. Rams - Chief. Great game. 44 - 40 Chiefs right now - and the Chiefs were just down by 10. Not over yet.
My reason for posting is - BOTH these QBs can be beat - you just have to put pressure on them. Bothe QBs have turned over the ball that have lead to TDs.
That said, and my reason for posting - we need the Rams to lose so we have a shot at home field - I can't believe I said that. Probably he last time was 2006 - Super Bowl year.
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Now the Rams are up 47 - 44.
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That game was epic...
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Very enjoyable football game.
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There were 13 TD’s in the game tonight.
The Bills have scored 13 TD’s all season.
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The Rams can be beat and I hope the Bears have what it takes.
Rams can score and score a LOT. If they have the ball. Our D is no joke so it won't be simple when they do have the ball. Our O can sustain long drives and possess the ball. I haven't looked it up but I bet our TOP is in our favor on offense. I am looking forward to that next Sunday Night game we have to play.
We thought the Vikings game was a test. No. It was a quiz to show the Bears are a good team. The Rams game is going to be the test. A test against a playoff caliber team.
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Truly epic game from an excitement standpoint. The refs tried to interfere a little too much at times (especially early on) and were something of a clown crew (Even I was shouting at the screen that Reid was not calling a time out but gesturing that the ball was tipped at the LOS)...
The new NFL indeed....
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That game was like a college bowl game or even a Super Bowl game. Those 2 QBs are amazing.
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We can beat those teams IF we consistently apply pressure. We have to get to the QB or those QB will pick us apart and quickly.
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It's tough to generate constant pressure throughout the course of a game when teams are passing so frequently.
Bears would need a good run game to slow the game down and keep the defense off the field.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3grxf8v01I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFc0-Ppm9l0
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WOW, and this is the guy I really wanted instead of Nagy...
Monday night’s loss was the last straw for Vikings offensive coordinator John DeFilippo.
The Vikings announced Tuesday morning that DeFilippo has been fired and Kevin Stefanski will take the reins of the offense for the rest of the season.
“The Minnesota Vikings have relieved John DeFilippo from his duties as Offensive Coordinator,” the team’s statement said. “Vikings Quarterbacks Coach Kevin Stefanski has been elevated to Interim Offensive Coordinator and will take over play-calling duties.”
It’s been a long and frustrating season for the Vikings’ offense, which came into the season thinking the arrival of Kirk Cousins would result in an improvement over last season’s results, only to see the offense go in the wrong direction this year.
Last season’s offense was called by Pat Shurmur, who is now the head coach of the Giants. Shurmur wanted to hire Stefanski as his offensive coordinator, but Vikings head coach Mike Zimmer blocked the move and held Stefanski to his contract in Minnesota.
Whether Stefanski can get things turned around over the final weeks of the season remains to be seen, but if the Vikings win their last three games they’re in the playoffs, and if Stefanski can get the offense rolling in January, he’ll suddenly be one of the hottest assistant coaches in the NFL.
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Wow, what a game by Phillip Rivers and the Chargers.
Bears could play with both of those teams...no problem.
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After the first two Chiefs drives, I didn't think the Chargers could play defense and the Chiefs were going to win in a walk. Looking at the standings, the AFC West has the best two conference records with both teams at 11-3. The Chiefs are the one seed with the better division record, and the Chiefs are the 5 seed. Both don't have easy schedules with Chiefs playing at Seattle and against Oakland, and the Chargers hosting the Ravens and at the Broncos.
This race could get real interesting with the number 1 seed on the line.
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Rivers is as good a come back QB as I've ever seen. His games are fun to watch.
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Pure pocket passer - if he has to run he's a dead duck. And he isn't a big strong armed thrower either but he throws a real accurate catchable ball.
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The Chiefs are the one seed with the better division record, and the Chiefs are the 5 seed.
Wait,.. what?....
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LOL... I meant the Chargers are the 5 seed. My bad
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Foles just left the Eagles game hurt...maybe busted ribs...
We might face them with Nate Sudfeld as their QB.
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None of the 6 highest paid QBs in the league made the playoffs in 2018. They combined for 31 wins.
Aaron Rodgers: $33.5M
Matt Ryan: $30M
Kirk Cousins: $28M
Jimmy Garoppolo: $27.5M
Matthew Stafford: $27M
Derek Carr: $25M
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Tom Brady not on list. Maybe he cares more about winning than the money? Or maybe he is just on old contract?
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None of the 6 highest paid QBs in the league made the playoffs in 2018. They combined for 31 wins.
Aaron Rodgers: $33.5M
Matt Ryan: $30M
Kirk Cousins: $28M
Jimmy Garoppolo: $27.5M
Matthew Stafford: $27M
Derek Carr: $25M
That's a sad list... wow! Who on that list apart from Rodgers would you want over Trubisky? None of them in my book.
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Coaches dropping left and right this morning...
Marvin Lewis out in Cincy
Adam Gase out in Miami
Steve Wilks out in Arizona
Vance Joseph out in Denver
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I think we might see a few college guys on the street too. First to come to mind would be Hairball at Michigan.
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Colts pounding the Texas. Watson just threw a pick into double coverage. Glad we Mitch.
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Texans look terrible.
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Texans look terrible.
The Houston Texans are (is?) one of the very worst organizations in the NFL. Occasionally, they have teams that are OK, but, fundamentally, the organization is horrible.
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Not impressed with any of these Wildcard teams.
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The Colts are pretty darned impressive....wouldn't surprise me one bit if they go in to KC and dismantle the Chiefs...
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Luck looked impressive. He is a world beater.
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Didnt Luck and the Colts beat Mahomes and KC once already this year?
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OK, Bears are out of it so who is everybody rooting for now.
I never root for the AFC unless they are playing against the Packers. But I like the Colts and I want Rivers to win with the Chargers.
As for the Saints and Eagles. Part of me wants to root for the Eagles to legitimize the Bears but part of me wants the Saints to just blow them out of the water.
I'll of course root for the Cowboys now as I've always done after the Bears are out of the playoffs (like for the last I dunno...almost 50 years now)
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Brees has never faltered from a HOF level of play so he is my first choice to get a second ring.
Otherwise I like Rivers because he's played so well over his career with little recognition. He plays every game like it's his last.
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Colts, but all the wind is out of my sails and I don't really care anymore. Ready for spring already.....
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None of the AFC teams bother me. Of the NFC I am really only pulling for the Saints.
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Anyone but the Cowboys...don't really care...
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Broncos giving Vic Fangio his best chance yet for NFL head coach job (https://www.9news.com/article/sports/nfl/denver-broncos/mike-klis/broncos-giving-vic-fangio-his-best-chance-yet-for-nfl-head-coach-job/73-63d22594-4198-49a1-9911-77f464370751)
Todd Bowles close to finding a home on new-look Buccaneers staff (https://nypost.com/2019/01/07/todd-bowles-close-to-finding-a-home-on-new-look-buccaneers-staff/)
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I wlll be rooting for Chargers because of P. Rivers.
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Whew, the Cardinals hired Kingsbury for their head coach and he has NO NFL experience.
That's really rolling the dice.
It's also odd Arians took the Tampa job since he left the Cardinals for health reasons.
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Kingsbury has no NFL COACHING experience but he's bounced around the NFL as a player.
Kingsbury is all about QBs and offense - that's where his focus will be with the Cards. He's coached 2 Heisman QBs and Mahomes in college. An article I read this morning stated how much time a college coach has to spend recruiting - in the NFL the GM and player personnel guys handle that.
It's a bit of a risk but Cards have no where to go but up.
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Before the Cards made their hire, I think they are on the cusp of getting back to respectability. They played a lot of teams tough. Not sure what Rosen has yet, except the best pout since Cutler. Their defense is sound.
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NFL analysts love Rosen. They think he'll be great with a better supporting cast.
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Watching the Eagles beat the Saints currently. Does make you go...dang had we just got that field goal....I truly think we would have been in the SuperBowl.
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Nice hands, Alshon...
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Nice hands, Alshon...
Doesn’t break my heart to see A$$$hon screw up...
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That's what he gets for taunting Bears fans.. Carma's a ****..
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Every bye team this week won and knocked out the wildcards. Bears will need to fight to get that bye next season. It's a tough road as a wildcard to make it to the end...
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His middle name changes from time to time, but under "Career highlights and awards", wiki listed "Dropped pass against New Orleans Saints" when I took a glance. People are just having fun with his page now. But at the end of the day, he does have a super bowl ring to fall back on.
"I think I have the best hands in the league" (https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/04/eagles-wr-alshon-jeffery-i-think-i-have-the-best-hands-in-the-league/)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dw1c7yLW0AEqBje.jpg:small)
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He drops a lot of passes.
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Alshon? Nope - not even close.
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Kyler Murray enters NFL draft.
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Alshon can catch every single pass, but not catching that one? That was the one that counted.. Like I said, couldn't happen to a better person..
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I remember Alshon dropping a lot of passes as a Bear and falling down. One of the reasons they did not bring him back. Great big receiver, but has his limits.
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I really have no idea what you are talking about.
His only issues were injury related. Jeffery had a huge catching radius - was great on 3rd down and and would win a large percentage of 50/50 balls downfield.
The Bears wanted him back. He just didn't see a future with the Bears at that time his contract was up and decided to go to a better team. Looks like he made a good decision as he now has a Super Bowl ring.
I don't mind the stuff on the field when the fans booed him but didn't appreciate his comments on Chicago - but all that aside he's a top NFL receiver.
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He has apparently played last year through a shoulder injury, and this season bruised ribs. Where was that guy in Chicago?
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Alshon opened the season on the injury list with the Eagles - missed the first 3 games. He still had more yardage than any of our receivers.
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Better QB play. Mitch is still trying to find his game.Until then, I don't look for any of our receivers to have decent numbers.. Jeffery had a case of the a$$ when Chicago parted ways with Marshall.. Another head case..
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Miller had a bad shoulder all year and is going for surgery. Robinson missed 2 or 3 games.
Robinson, if healthy, will be well over 1,000 yards next year. Taylor Gabriel caught more passes this year than he ever has - he can get better.
They were all learning Nagy's system and Mitch needs to get better - and he will.
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I expect Robinson will be in top shape this July, the best is yet to come. Was pleasantly surprised with Gabriel this season. I love the fire and competitiveness Miller brings. Just want that shoulder to tighten up!
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So, do the Bears get anything at all when White leaves? Or is this just another in a long line of No.1 pick failures?
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I dont believe so not even a mid round pick. Just another failed black mark on the ledger
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I don't know the specifics on compensation on your own FAs that are not re-signed. Mostly because Bears in recent memory are signing FAs from other teams and not releasing there own.
Since White hardly played for his four years in Chicago I doubt there is much compensation assigned to him. Now if Massie, Amos and/or Callahan leave the Bears could be in line for some 3rd or 4th round comp picks assuming the Bears don't sign other FAs that balance it out.
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I do think White has some good years ahead - we just do not need him. I do not like the fact he was not active for games because of the way he practices.
We have Wims who be even better next year.
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I don't know how White practiced. I don't even know how he would perform in games. But he was behind their big dollar FA signings Gabriel and Robinson as well as their second round pick Miller. Bellamy was a special teams guy and was #4 WR. A non-special teams WR that supposedly could only play ONE WR position of the 3 was not a need.
Just a number game with WRs that were active on Sunday. Nagy pretty much played the same 3 or 4 guys with Trubisky.
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I do think White has some good years ahead - we just do not need him. I do not like the fact he was not active for games because of the way he practices.
We have Wims who be even better next year.
How well White practiced or picked up the system, or the lack of how well - was media speculation. Like many of us, they like to speculate, predict, etc. Biggs was all over the "Fuller not making it out of training camp" before the 2017 season, he probably already had the article written patting himself on the back when it happened. Once the media gets a bone, it takes a lot for them to release it. The coverage of Trubisky seemed to temper a bit this year, and Trubisky seems to be strong enough to take it.
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Watching Saints/Rams, can't help but think the Bears should be there.....sucks....Bears/Saints...
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What is that constant shaking sound in this game?!? Man, is it absolutely annoying!! Crowd shaking a noisemaker or something?
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The Saints just got totally Fuucked by the refs. I mean that should have been PI, not called. I am sick to my stomach that the superbowl is being determined by the zebras. Even Perrera said that SHOULD have been PI. Apparently someone wants the Rams in the superbowl. Besides Donkey Kong Suh, I hate the Rams now more than ever, and hope they lose to whoever wins the next game. Its not enough to be a good team, but you have to have the refs on your side. The Bears will never get to another superbowl. Sigh.
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Oh yeah, and for a minute I thought I was watching a Packers game. Just made it that much worse.
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Well said:
With the Rams stealing the NFC championship in overtime from the Saints, the league office will be under siege for the inexplicable non-call at the end of regulation that kept the Saints from running the clock down to the final seconds and winning the game with a walk-off field goal.
Rams defensive back Nickell Robey-Coleman not only interfered with Saints receiver Tommylee Lewis but also applied an illegal helmet-to-helmet hit on a defenseless receiver. Inexplicably, neither penalty was called. The non-call lit a fuse that burned throughout the rest of the game and will now explode.
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That was PI if I ever saw it. Saints got ripped bigtime. And protesting to the League? Good Grief!
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We only get a pick for White if he signs a big contract somewhere else.
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Kc scored too fast now Brady has time for the game winner.
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Usually root for the NFC team, but maybe if the Pats win Brady retires.
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I'm no Rams fan but I was tired of hearing about Brees and the all mighty Saints. Bad call? Whatever, they had the rest of the game to win it and didn't..
I hate Brady and the Pats, but I probably hate KC more (I guess)...
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Honestly, after the Bears went down, I lost interest.
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Yeah, I haven’t watched anymore after the Bears lost either. I was hoping for KC vs NO. I like the Pats about as much as the Packers so I’ll be pulling for LA if I watch at all.
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I'll boycott the game, putrid matchup, picked by the League. They need to fix that Saints game but you know they wont.
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It's the worst possible matchup IMO. Would much rather have seen Saints- Chiefs. Pats, again? Pass....
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Didn't watch the Pro-Bowl - not supporting this BS for whoever is getting rich by fixing game results
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I see New England is favored by 2.5. I would take that in a second. It seems as if it would take a miracle for the Rams to beat the Pat's.. Not that the Pat's are all that great this season, I just don't think the Rams are all that..
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The Pats really raised their level of play at the end of the season and playoffs.
I don't see anyone this year who would be able to beat them now. (although the Chiefs would have won if Ford had not lined up half a yard offsides)
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I agree that the Pat's really did start playing much better when postseason came..
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This is a beautiful thing:
New Orleans Saints
Saints coach Sean Payton gave his season-ending press conference today, and he didn’t hide his disappointment about the bad call that went against his team in the NFC Championship Game. But he did hide a subtle message, on his undershirt.
Payton was wearing a quarter-zip shirt with a T-shirt under it. And eagle-eyed viewers noticed something odd about that T-shirt.
Look closely, and the shirt is one that shows NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell looking like a clown. It’s the same shirt that Lions head coach Matt Patricia wore when he was defensive coordinator of the Patriots, a clothing choice that had Goodell miffed at Patricia.
Payton’s choice of shirt was a subtle nod to the Saints fans who are livid with the NFL, both for the blown call and for Goodell’s lack of a public response. At least, it was subtle in the moment. Once people noticed what he was wearing, it became a shot across the bow at Goodell for what Payton — and many others around the league — view as a failure of leadership.
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It was a horrid non call, one that cost the Saints a trip to the SB. But what could have been done about it post game? Could the league have said 'we blew the call, Saints win'? I def feel for the Saints and their fans. Cannot imagine what I'd be feeling right now had this happened to the Bears. Just wondering what could have been done to satisfy the Saints. Looking forward, maybe they should make certain calls reviewable or NON calls in this case. It just cheapens the game when the right team doesn't move forward....like saying 'ehh truth be da@$ed, you won but lost, whatever....'
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I think it was a horrible non call and huge fvckup by the officials. No way do I believe it was premeditated or done on purpose to decide to have the rams in the super bowl.
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Best way to send a message to the NFL is not watch the Super Bowl. To me the game is illlegimitate.
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Much as i like Breese, it was a bad pass that should have been intercepted anyway. Rams won the game.
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If the call is made correctly - Saints run out the clock - game over
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I say too bad.. The Saints had the lead in the game and blew it. It shouldn't have come down to that one play..
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Most games now depend on which team has the ball last - like the Bears playoff game - but this one was stolen from the Saints - for some reason that is dirty
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I refuse to accept that the Saints lost. The League wanted the Rams to win and they fixed it so they would. Shame on them. I'm not watching this illegimitate game.
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Superbowl's suck unless the Bears are in it..
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You could almost see if the refs missed one penalty on a play, but to miss TWO, and very obvious ones, with refs in the picture looking right at it? Yeah that doesnt pass the smell test in my book.
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New season starts Saturday:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/alliance-of-american-football-unveils-2019-schedule-features-steve-spurrier-coaching-in-opener/
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Really curious to see what they do. No kickoffs I think they said. Even if its bad football it is still something even if its a train wreck....
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This league is different than the one Vince McMahon (XFL Redo) is putting together. This one starting Saturday is the Bill Polian lead initiative.
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I'll check it out
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I barely recognize any of the players anyone recognize any of the players? The problem is no one will pay for bad talent.
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The deal cannot become official until the new league year starts on March 13, but Joe Flacco is expected to move from Baltimore to Denver once trades can be completed.
According to multiple reports, the Ravens are expected to get a mid-round pick back from the Broncos as compensation for the quarterback they moved to the bench in favor of rookie Lamar Jackson. The Broncos currently have nine 2019 picks, including two fourth-round selections and two fifth-round selections.
Flacco’s contract calls for him to make a salary of $18.5 million in 2019 and he’s signed through 2021 with a total cap liability of $63 million once you remove the $16 million in dead cap space the Ravens will take on in the deal. Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that Flacco is expected to rework his deal with the Broncos.
Finding out the exact pick heading back to Baltimore is only one of the questions left open by this deal. There’s also the matter of what the Broncos will do with Case Keenum and how Flacco’s exit from the market affects other teams in the market for quarterback help this offseason, to name two things to watch over the next month.
UPDATE 12:04 p.m. ET: Multiple reports indicate it will be one of the two fourth-round picks going to Baltimore. The Broncos have their pick along with the one they acquired from the Texans in the Demaryius Thomas trade. Denver’s own pick is the 11th in the fourth round and the Texans’ pick is 12 selections further down the order.
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I'd love Keenum as a backup
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Fangio gets screwed by Elway
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Vic, welcome to the clown car! Here's the keys...
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Fangio = John Fox.
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Yep
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Interesting that the NFL is accepted as a passing league.
According to Rick Gosselin there were 132 300- yard passing games last season and the teams were 64-66-2.
When a back ran for 100 yards his teams won 76.4% of the time.
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Teams pass more when they are behind.
Teams run more when they are ahead.
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Robert Kraft arrested in FLa. as part of a **** bust. Let the memes begin.
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Can't even buy pu$$y anymore.. What the heck is this world coming to.. LOL!!
To be honest, is there really anyone that cares? I've never done that but I couldn't care less. As long as it doesn't involve children, I say let 'em have at it.. Idiotic law..
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Hmmm Kraft is 77, more power to him. Yet why would he go to a massage parlor to solicit a prostitute instead of having an escort come to him? Odd.
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You could get busted either way. (Not that I would know mind you).
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To be honest, is there really anyone that cares? I've never done that but I couldn't care less. As long as it doesn't involve children, I say let 'em have at it.. Idiotic law..
From my understanding he was on video and caught up in a sting on human trafficking. Apparently the prostitutes were brought to the country for real jobs and sold into slavery.
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From my understanding he was on video and caught up in a sting on human trafficking. Apparently the prostitutes were brought to the country for real jobs and sold into slavery.
No one should be held against their will. If this is the case, Kraft has some serious problems..
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Wow didnt see this coming:
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ESPN needs a new Monday Night Football commentator, and the Cowboys are getting their old tight end back.
The Cowboys announced today that Witten has decided to return to the team for a 16th NFL season after spending last year as the lead analyst on Monday Night Football.
“The fire inside of me to compete and play this game is just burning too strong,” Witten said in a statement released by the Cowboys. “This team has a great group of rising young stars, and I want to help them make a run at a championship. This was completely my decision, and I am very comfortable with it. I’m looking forward to getting back in the dirt.”
Witten was one of the Cowboys’ most popular players, and they’ll be thrilled to get him back in the locker room. It’s not realistic to think he’ll be as good at age 37 as he was in his prime, but the Cowboys still think he can contribute.
For ESPN, another big shakeup is coming on Monday nights.
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Wow. That was from left field.
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Yeah, you wonder how much of that decision came from MNF. I like Witten as a player but as an announcer...not so much.
Maybe they call Jay Cutler.
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LOL.....who is worse?
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Actually Jay Cutler is a good TV personality. Fox would welcome him back and he was considered by ESPN before Romo. Jay is the one saying he wants to wait a bit.
Fox did give him the #2 analyst spot behind Aikman before Miami signed him away.
http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2018/01/02/source-fox-likely-to-welcome-back-miami-dolphins-jay-cutler-to-booth/
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Uh Woo Hoo.
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DK Metcalf is just unbelievable.
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Seems so
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DK Metcalf is just unbelievable.
Now Sweat is going off, what the hell are they feeding this kids in mississippi
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Ravens cut Eric Weddle tonight.
If Amos leaves, we could do a lot worse than talking Weddle into coming here and chasing a ring...
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Why did they cut him? Cash?
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Ravens cut Eric Weddle tonight.
If Amos leaves, we could do a lot worse than talking Weddle into coming here and chasing a ring...
Coincidentally a few weeks ago had the table next to him at a Chinese restaurant, should have asked him.
I would think we could resign Amos for what Weddel would cost.
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I don't agree.
Weddle is 34 years old. Weddle has proved to be durable over his career. Has good tackle numbers but last year only touched the ball 3 times all season. No interceptions.
Amos is 25. Had similar tackle numbers. 9 defended pass plus 2 picks (and another one in the playoffs).
You think Weddle gets the same deal that Amos will get?
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Weddle made$7 Mil last season.
Maybe he would play for ..what $5 mil? Couldn't they resign Amos for that?
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I wouldn't be surprised if Weddle is in the 1 year deal type of contract mode.
If Bears really want to keep Amos - maybe they find a way to manipulate the cap. But what happens next year if they want to extend Floyd, Whitehair, and Jackson. Plus Trevathan is a FA too. Plus next year we still don't have a first rounder but we'll have 2 second rounders.
Maybe we sign a 1 year stopgap guy to compete with Bush and hope this year or next year we can find a SS in the middle rounds to take over the job.
That's why draft picks, especially mid-rounders, are like gold when they become starters. Their contracts are cap friendly.
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Per Field Yates/ESPN
Official cap space by team as of March 8
1. Colts: $101,523,486
2. Jets: $95,023,883
3. Browns: $80,722,665
4. Bills: $75,324,783
5. Texans: $73,338,667
6. 49ers: $64,714,540
7. Raiders: $62,507,480
8. Bengals: $50,249,231
9. Titans: $42,796,847
10. Cardinals: $38,119,178
11. Broncos: $36,470,400
12. Packers: $33,715,294
13. Seahawks: $33,186,397
14. Lions: $31,237,788
15. Rams: $29,329,861
16. Patriots: $23,221,721
17. Giants: $23,196,727
18. Cowboys: $22,637,169
19. Ravens: $22,272,814
20. Chargers: $21,486,799
21. Eagles: $18,515,890
22. Bears: $16,750,241
23. Redskins: $16,614,595
24. Dolphins: $16,377,117
25. Panthers: $15,707,265
26. Steelers: $11,431,862
27. Chiefs: $8,280,368
28. Falcons: $5,992,382
29. Vikings: $4,264,098
30. Saints: $3,672,912
31. Buccaneers: $2,673,807
32. Jaguars: $1,758,439
Note: these numbers include only moves that have been made official by the league office. Trades such as the Joe Flacco deal and the cuts like the Jags' today have not yet been processed.
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101 million for the colts... wow.
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I thought I read it was 18.5 mil because of some Glennon offset money. Who knows.
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Well, so much for Weddle...he signed a 2 year deal with the Rams for 10.5M...
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Well, so much for Weddle...he signed a 2 year deal with the Rams for 10.5M...
Really disappointed bears missed out on him. Great veteran leader that knows how to win at a position of need. The cheap contract adds salt to it.
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Agree...he lives in So. Cal though, so the chances of him leaving the visit today without a deal were slim...
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This guy should be considered an American hero -- https://nypost.com/2019/03/08/cowboys-david-irving-quits-nfl-over-weed-policy-while-smoking-blunt/
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Irving's history of pot smoking has prevented him from earning millions.
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26351121/grateful-gronkowski-announces-retirement
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Not really sold on Kyle Murray as the #1 pick.
The same hype in the past for Doug Flutie, Michael Vick, RG III. Vick and RG had injury issues while scrambling and both are much bigger than Murray.
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Don't understand the Cardinals.
They trade up heavily to draft Rosen then fire the coach and hire Kingsbury who was fired by Texas Tech and couldn't win with Patrick Mahommes.
Now they're supposedly are getting only third round offers for Rosen so they can draft a small QB who fits the system.
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I've seen Murray play in person his sophomore, junior and senior years in high school. Never lost a game in HS. 3 state championships. He's so fast and quick he can avoid just about any direct hit.
But I wouldn't want to be the Cardinals on the clock with the #1 pick of the draft though. Huge risk...huge reward.
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It's going to be interesting.
It's hard to figure the Vikings gave a first rounder for Sam Bradford but Rosen isn't getting offers of more than a third.
Maybe the Cards will keep Rosen as insurance or to trade to a team in dire need later on for a higher pick 2020.
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Back in '89. The Cowboys drafted Aikman #1...as in #1 overall. Jimmy Johnson was the new coach of the Cowboys after Jerry Jones brought him over from Miami. For some reason the Miami QB Steve Walsh declared late for the NFL after the draft and became eligible in the supplemental draft. The Cowboys having the worst record in the NFL took him with the first pick the supplemental.
He didn't do much for the Cowboys his first 2 years and they traded him to the Saints for a #1 and some other good draft picks. Saints may have had a QB injury or some other need.
Maybe the Cards play them both in 2019 and trade the one they don't like. But if the Cards line can't block Rosen will struggle more than Murray.
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Sooooo......Tyreek Hill probably will be suspended for a long time. WHAT **** is he doing hurting a 3 year? His fiance has protected him up until now.
https://www.elkvalleytimes.com/sports/national/disturbing-audio-of-wr-tyreek-hill-should-signal-end-of/article_f4751be6-b118-5dfc-9382-ddcb271bf06b.html
I hope he never plays again.
He was also kicked off the Oklahoma State football team in 2014 for beating up his now fiance. Too bad she stayed with him.
Obviously he doesn't get it.
There is also a video of Hill tackling an autistic kid from behind. Apparently the kid was invited to a practice and the kid was supposed to catch a football and run for touchdown. Hill races in and tackled the kid at the 2 yard line. Kid went into total meltdown. Later the kid was allowed to score a touchdown.
Nice guy. I only bring this up because how many chances does this guy get. Everyone around him covers up for him.
He's a meal ticket.
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Thats funny. LOL
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Some very interesting articles someone sent me (I think they came from WCG board). Good stuff....
https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2018/11/06/the-match-game-part-1-how-nfl-defenses-lost-their-way/
https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2018/11/08/the-match-game-part-2-how-nick-saban-re-imagined-defensive-coverage/
https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2018/11/09/the-match-game-part-3-the-mahomes-conundrum/
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A friend asked me what NFL teams i hate and root against.
I realized there are only a few I don't hate for one reason or another.
They are:
NfC south, Bills, Ravens, Texans, Dolphins, Chiefs and Chargers.
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Dolphins ruined our perfect season. Add them to your list!
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The Dolphins beat us, that's not causing me to hate them.
I don't hate their fans or any of the players.
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Just figured you had a short fuse if that was the only teams you don't hate.
The teams I hate? The Packers.
Can't think of another one. Maybe the Colts for a year or two but I am over it now.
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Packers and Vikings. Couldn't stop talking trash after that Wanny playoff win when I first moved up to MN.
The Lions are irrelevant and always will be.
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The Dolphins beat us, that's not causing me to hate them.
I don't hate their fans or any of the players.
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I guess hate is a strong word, most teams I would rather just lose for one reason or another.
Often it's the fans I'm against rather than the teams.
For example, the Cowboys with all their America's team and superiority complex even though they haven't won anything in decades,
The Raiders, if you go to a Raiders game in gear from another team there's a 90% chance they will throw food or beer at you. You may get ganged up on in the parking lot.
The Seahawks fans think they're superior with their "12th man" BS.
The Bengals, I just remember the last 2 times we played them with Andy Dalton. He got a TD or 2 early and was always wearing that shiit eating grin and hie "we goth this" attitude.
New york teams I hate their fans, nuf said. Same for Eagles, they're the worst.
I know some Broncos fans that have that superiority complex.
Steelers fans think their team is the high character and toughest team. Rothlisburger is a rapist.
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Packers.
During football season any friends or relatives connected to that team are my $hit list. When I was younger that team used be the Vikings (Tarkenton era) but since the Favre/Rodgers era its been the Pack.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/17/pro-football-focus-nfl-analytics-fmia-guest/
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The Gould talk can die now. He signed a long term deal (https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1150743185452392450) with the niners.
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#Saints released WR Cameron Meredith, according to a source familiar with the situation. Meredith posted a cryptic post on IG, “It’s been fun” that I saw during practice. We now know the reason.
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Pace and the surprisingly the Bears' medical staff we're right about Meridith.
Hopefully, it's not the end of his career. I'll be rooting for him.
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Meredith was never that good. He would not fit in here now.
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Meredith was a QB in college and in only his second year as an NFL WR put up more yardage than Allen Robinson did last season. And recall in 2016 we had a merry go round of QBs after Cutler's injury.
Of course he doesn't fit in this year because we signed 2 FAs receivers and drafted another two in the 2nd round and 7th round in 2018 and followed that up with 3 FAs we signed this year. If the Bears had a healthy Meredith maybe we don't sign Gabriel or draft Miller.
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FWIW the Packers pre season game is one of the games featured on NFLN.
They aren't showing any pass rush with their starters and their defense looks really average.
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ESPN is reporting that Andrew Luck is retiring.
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Being reported on the Bears game as well.
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That's crazy. Two weeks before the season starts. Glad I'm not a Colts fan or I'd be ticked!
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Lamar Miller of the Texans out with a torn ACL in a meaningless game - maybe more coaches follow Nagy's thinking of holding out starters in PS.
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It's just not worth it. They pay these guys incredible amounts of money and to see all that sitting a bench from being injured in a meaningless game? I don't blame them. They all can sit till Green Bay. We need to be full strength, which we may not be anyway due to practice injuries.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-fans-immediately-ripped-nbcs-weird-camera-angle-for-the-steelers-titans-game/ar-AAGjDCh?ocid=spartandhp
I didn't see the game but the angle looks good to me. Seems like low IQ people bitching to me. With this angle you could actually see the blocking and watch the play develop instead of having the camera spoon feed you.
Am I alone in thinking it gives a better view of the game?
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I like seeing all 22 players, but boy you would need to be watching on a really big tv.
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It should be an alternate view. If you want to see the 22 man view get the nfl pass or whatever it is that offers that after each game. It might be better if it was from behind the LOS so you could see downfield developments.
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I kind of like it. Often times on a pass play the QB drops back and you have no idea where/why the ball is coming out or why the ball is NOT coming out. With this angle you can better see the receivers trying to get open and the DBs covering them.
I don't like the behind the LOS view. It's kind of like sitting in the end zone at a game. Was that one yard run or was it 10 yards?
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Antonio Brown is a mess
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The Vikes are looking very tough....
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Watching Deshaun Watson take the Texans like 70+ yards with 50 seconds left in 2 plays to score a go-ahead TD at the end of the 4th quarter should not make me sad. But, watching Drew Brees then drive down the field with only one time out in the remaining 15 seconds to get in position for a game winning 58-yard field goal does push me to the edge a little bit.
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Does Watson make Hopkins or does Hopkins make Watson? I didn't see the final quarter so not sure how they moved the ball then, but Hopkins is dynamite in my opinion.
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Texans Saints game was the best game to watch so far this season. Lead changes and all.
It appeared the Saints needed a quarter or so to get their offense to shake off the rust.
The Texans started hot then cooled off (and the idiotic defense at the end of the game that gave up the easy completion is inexcuseable). Alhough it was a LONG FG to win the game and no gimme, it should not have come down to that.
All in all, pretty enjoyable, unlike the Bears opener.....
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Just reported on the Score, Watson is the most frequently sacked quarterback in the league (sacks/games played)... ever. How long can he hold up?
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They just added one of the best, if not the best, LT’s in the league...
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And he was sacked 6 times. His average is in the mid 3.5's and he is the highest, since 1982 when they started recording the sack stat.
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He went on IR his rookie year - missed about half the season.
But what a stable of receivers. Besides Hopkins, he's got Kenny Stills and the speedy Will Fuller.
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When is Antonio Brown kicked out of the NFL.
1. He orchestrated his release in Oakland. Lied and cheated his way out. He was coached how to do it.
2. Now - He is accused of **** and sexual assault.
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I think New England is going to have a PR nightmare with this one.
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Maybe another ring in January er February?
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Vikings running the ball really well against the Packers. You know what the Bears should have done!
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Cousins is awful that turned into the Vikings game to lose
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Yes he is. He cost them the game. He sucks!
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There was a reason Washington wouldn’t commit to him long term.
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It would have been nice had the Queens beaten the hated Pack in Lamblow. The little engine that could just couldnt today. The Pack escape.
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Packers play a home schedule early on and then they go on the road. It's bound to catch up to them at some point.....
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Packers have talent everywhere in their lineup. They should be in every game. Where's their weakness?
But yeah, Cousins had his chance. Didn't he watch the game film from the previous week?
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Drew Brees is out 6 weeks. We play them in 5 weeks so he might miss the Bears game.
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Rothlisberger done for the year. wow
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Yes, Kirk Cousins is awful - he looked rattled - the Packers hit him - he doesn't like to get hit at all. Queens should have won that easily. All on Cousins.
Also - now they are Antonio Brown has had MANY, MANY issues the Steelers hid....that this stuff has been going on for a long time. A normal team would release him.....not the Cheaters.
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Heard is cousin, the speedy Marquise Brown of the Ravens, may also be involved.
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After the typical grabs and choke holds that Green Bay got away with a week and half ago and over the last 3 decades, I have noticed Mack being more demonstrative about the mugging on the field than he was last year. Interesting trend to see if this slows the game down and/or if the sack numbers start to climb.
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Yo @NFLOfficiating ... y'all going to keep this up?
Last season, memo goes out before wk13 to call more holdings. 73 accepted (94 total). Other than week 13, no more than 53 in any week.
2017 - 51
2016 - 58
2015 - 59
2019
week 1 - 64 accepted (83 called)
week 2 - 70 (92)
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The refs are terrible. They know there are holds every play - if they do not call it - it will keep happening and guys like Bahktiari will continue to do it.
2 roughing calls on the Bears that were just good football plays
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That officiating crew made several bad calls on both sides. Just as glaring was the roughing call on our final game winning drive. Also, I don't like the idea of evening out the calls. I thought the one hold on Leno was terrible, after then had called their 72 on 5 holding calls.
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72 on Denver was holding literally every play - the telecast showed him holding and they pointed it out...and of course no call each time.
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He was called several times and Schlereth kept pointing it out.
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Bolles the first round draft pick was flagged at least 5 times for h0lding.
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Yep...even when the officials switched it up and called one on the RG #65, Schlereth made it a point to point out that Bolles was holding on that play as well...
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the refs just weren't flagging Bolles everty time he held. The only way for him to stop Mack was to wrap him up.
With another crew Mack may have had 4-5 sacks
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Just noticed that Chad Kelly was waived by the Colts yesterday...
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Is that the guy that tore up our 2nd/3rd stringers in preseason? Hmmm.
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yup
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Kelly cleared waivers and is signed to Colts practice squad.
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Peckers gong down today to the Bronocs.
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Mahomes on pace for 6,375 yards, 53 touchdowns, 0 INT. His QB rating is 135.
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Peckers gong down today to the Bronocs.
We only wish. Didnt happen unfortunately.
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Daniel Jones: 336 yards, 2 TDs, 2 Rushing TDs (2 lost fumbles)
Kyle Allen: 261 yards, 4 TDs (1 lost fumble)
Gardner Minshew: 204 yards, 2 TDs
Mason Rudolph: 174 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
Trubisky TBD
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good no call here...
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/fzgguheodeqgzpqppvva.gif)
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Geez!
Oh and by the way the Packers are 3-0, Vikings 2-1, Lions 2-0-1.
We better get the offense fixed and get a win tomorrow.
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Need to win tomorrow or we'll be down 2 games in the division. Go from winning the division to the toilet....
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Seahawk - Rams game seemed to turn on another bad ruffing the passer call on Clay Matthews.
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The Vikings Cousins is issuing a public apology to Adam Thielen about not getting him the ball enough. And Diggs is pouting too.
First of all Cousins doesn't call the plays. Second neither of those crybabies had to drop back and face the Bears' menacing pass rush.
Yeah, Cousins overthrew Thielen - it happens...every week.
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We'll see if anyone gets fired during their bye week
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How come other teams can find and develop quarterbacks?
QB @GardnerMinshew5 completed 26 of 44 passes for 374 yards & two TDs for a passer rating of 101.9.
Minshew is now the first player in NFL history to throw for at least 200 passing yards with a passer rating of at least 95.0 in each of his first five career games.
https://twitter.com/TDickman89/status/1180952037049212936
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Other teams don't have Matt F. Nagy as their head coach.
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Nagy won 15 of 20 going into the game today.
He has 2 weeks to regroup and get some of his starters healthy.
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Now I fully agree Mahommes is a great QB so far in his career.
But last night the Colts found a way to put a decent rush on him, largely keep him in the pocket, and keep him from consistently making plays.
He had a lot of yards in the end but only 13 points
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Greg Olsen was manning the booth Sunday - was very sharp and on his broadcasting game
https://theathletic.com/1309044/2019/10/20/greg-olsen-in-the-booth-if-he-retired-today-the-panthers-te-would-be-right-up-there-with-the-top-guys/
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Cam NEwton just got put on IR.
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The Panthers have been better without him.
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Reich needs to put Chad Kelly in...Hoyer isn’t getting it done...
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SHHHHH!! Then we may not be able to get him next season! ;D
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Down in second quarter 0-17 Vikings starting to look desperate...
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They won. Pack has the Queens on their heels and the 9ers are going to win. Teams will be tied following Monday...
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The fact the Broncos choked up a 20 point lead is on them. You can't sit an a lead with 2 quarters to play.
Packer fans aren't worried, Pack 30 9ers 16.
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Patriot fans have to be the worst in the NFL.
They haven't lost a home game since 2017 and they booed them at the half.
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Everybody needs to root for Seattle in this game.
If the Rams lose they go to just a half game ahead of us in the Wildcard race.
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Everybody needs to root for Seattle in this game.
If the Rams lose they go to just a half game ahead of us in the Wildcard race.
For the seventh spot.
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Think we're done. Just too much has to happen to even get much of a chance at the playoffs. They blew it this season, just another wasted one in a long string of them....
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yep, Nagy threw the season away.
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They'll end up 8-8 or 9-7 and pat themselves on the back..
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OTOH those are mighty tough games. They could end up losing next Sunday and losing the last 2, thus finishing 7-9.....which wouldnt shock me if it did. They've thrown this season away from the beginning.
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Or finish 10-6 on a serious roll, and miss the playoffs and jerk the hearts out of our mouths. Let's be champions of December and at least win that crown. Beat the Pack!
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The Queens could easily lose their last 3 games. And finish 9 and 7. Kurt Cousin against teams with winning records.
So if we have the same record as the Queens - 10 and 6 and we beat them twice - do we go to the playoffs?
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Not if the Rams don't lose twice.
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You're right......Queens and Bears may miss the playoffs.
Nagy's horrific play calling cost us the Rams game.
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Ok, if the Rams are in, aren't there two wild cards?
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Ok, if the Rams are in, aren't there two wild cards?
Seahawks are the other wildcard.
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We need the Vikings to lose two, the Rams to lose two and the Bears to win out.
Or the Packers to lose three, Vikings lose two but beat Packers and of course the Bears win out.
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IOW, a miracle.....
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Basically, we're fukked..
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Too many scenarios at this point. Enjoy the game this week, win, and come out healthy enough. Setting up our Superbowl against the Chiefs.
Though I do wonder what a 3 way tie would do with the Rams and Vikings would look like. Rams and Vikings did not play head to head so I think the tiebreaker goes to common opponents, then conference, etc
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Bears are not ready for 49ers or Saints kind of competition
Packers - sure
Chiefs - no
Vikings - maybe
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Barring a significant injury coming out of the Packer game, I believe we will absolutely throttle the Chiefs.
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You mean the Chiefs team that just beat the Patriots?
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YUP......LOL
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The patriots....for some reason...are terrible lately. Lost TWO in a row. Brady was terrible and Mahomes not that great.
Plus the Patriots barely beat Dallas 3 weeks ago.
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Refs put a couple of speed bumps on the Patriots too - which was SHOCKING
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The refs completely hosed the Pat's.. Blatantly...
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Barring a significant injury coming out of the Packer game, I believe we will absolutely throttle the Chiefs.
We better have a really good game for that to happen..
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I am going to the Peckers game and we will win this one. Akiem Hicks is back!!!
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If anybody can bring us home a win, its you.
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Ha!
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Gonna be totally Jerseyed up with bear head, or complete wimp with no logo coat, like I would? Them old Wisconsin bags are MEAN!
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Bring it!!
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Gonna be totally Jerseyed up with bear head, or complete wimp with no logo coat, like I would? Them old Wisconsin bags are MEAN!
Still debating what to wear. Last time I went the fans found out we were Bears fans - they bought us 4 beers each. This was awhile ago. Bears went up 14 to zero after Lance Briggs intercepted Farve in flat - Briggs sniffed out the Green Bay patented screen and scored a TD. Halftime it was 14 to 13. Bears lost to Favre 27 to 14.
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Wasn’t that a Christmas Day game?
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I honestly do not remember. More than 12 years ago.
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Funny how the Seahawks “pulled a Bears” and threw a five yard pass on 4th and 6.
They’re fans must be going crazy.
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What team do you bear fans follow when the playoffs start each year?
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This first paragraph of Adam Kilgore's column today on daniel snyder's Washington Redskins reads like he referring to trump and his angry shrinking followers.
Over the past decade, as the Washington Redskins’ performance faltered and their attendance diminished, change occurred at every level of the franchise except for the top. Owner Daniel Snyder fired coaches, cycled through executives and overturned rosters. But he stayed loyal to team president Bruce Allen, the Super Bowl coach’s son who arrived in 2009 as a savior and became, over a string of dismal seasons and messy personnel changes, the primary antagonist of an angry, shrinking fan base.
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What team do you bear fans follow when the playoffs start each year?
Obviously not your fav. Never would do that.
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This first paragraph of Adam Kilgore's column today on daniel snyder's Washington Redskins reads like he referring to trump and his angry shrinking followers.
Over the past decade, as the Washington Redskins’ performance faltered and their attendance diminished, change occurred at every level of the franchise except for the top. Owner Daniel Snyder fired coaches, cycled through executives and overturned rosters. But he stayed loyal to team president Bruce Allen, the Super Bowl coach’s son who arrived in 2009 as a savior and became, over a string of dismal seasons and messy personnel changes, the primary antagonist of an angry, shrinking fan base.
I see you’ve been listening to your “Barry is my fairy” motivational tapes again.
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What team do you bear fans follow when the playoffs start each year?
Sometimes the Bears and sometimes anyone playing the Packers.
This year it will be whoever is playing the Packers and I doubt we will be disappointed. You will likely beat the Vikings but I doubt the Packers beat anyone else that made the playoffs.
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I usually pull for whom ever in the NFC except the Packers, Cowboys or 49ers.
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I just want to see entertaining games not **** up by shitty officiating....
Best case AFC Championship would be Ravens Chiefs I think....
Best case NFC Championship would be Saints 49ers.....
Superbowl ? Ravens Saints...
So I just jinxed them :D
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I'll be cheering for my two favorite non bears players, Watson and Wilson. So that makes the Seahawks and the Texans my playoff teams this year.
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Anyone but Pats Packers...
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Looks like we won't have to put up with the Pats in it again....lost today to the Texans. Gonna be Ravens-9ers or Ravens-Saints, either would be a good SB....
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What two great games there were yesterday. Is there any way today's games can be as good ?
Henry was running wild in the Titans game. Just a monster.....
As far as tbe Bills go, Josh Allen looked like a veteran until it counted. Think that fumble he had scrambling got into his head- he seemed off a lot after that.....
So as long as the Saints win today I think it would be a good weekend :D
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I was kinda pulling for Buffalo, no particular reason. You aren't sh!ttin about Henry. All I could think, that's what it's supposed to look like with a good O line..
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Another thing. Look at Tannehill and Allen, Great examples of what a team can do with a decent, not great, QB. I know the Bills lost, but overall they looked pretty good all season. Good D, Good Oline, and a run game, make all the difference..
Strange how the NFL played both AFC games on Saturday..
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Kinda wanted to see Buffalo break that no playoff wins this millennia but was entertained by the game....
Almost every run Henry had (except when the stunts worked) he was not touched until the line of scrimmage at least. Imagine if the Bears OLine could do something like that instead of playing like those electric vibrating football guys we all used to know and love......
No Darth hoodie in the Superbowl. Now we can hope for googly-eyed discount double check douche to lose as well :D
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The thing about Green Bay, their D has been playing much better. If Rogers gets the O clicking, they could be tough..
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Was the Buffalo kick off a TD or did they make the right call. IMHO the guy made a boneheaded move and it should have stayed a TD. You gotta take a knee. What is the official rule on that?
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I thought that was crazy...the KR clearly made the sign that we have all seen hundreds of times that “the player gives up,” he makes the catch, and helpfully flips the ball to the referee....and suddenly it’s 1972 and that’s a live ball...are you f*cking kidding me? I’m glad they talked themselves out of that call....
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Wow Cousins really came through.
Too bad I enjoy seeing the Vikings disappointed
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NFL blew it again....Rudolph pushes off the DB & no call. Getting sick of the horrific officiating. I thought they were supposed to review that stuff?
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Queens pull upset over Brees and the Saints.
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The Cardinals took Andy Isabella two picks before the Seahawks took DK Metcalf.
Bad teams doing dumb things, good teams doing smart things...
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Collinsworth had him 7th overall.
Maybe someone should hire him?
Only rookie WR as good as him this year was his Ole Miss teammate, AJ Brown...
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Seattle better get better this week, I have a feeling GB will kick their as$es..
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Seattle ain't jack and will be destroyed in Lameblow, sadly. But that's where the cinderella season for the Pakers ends. SF will end them bad...
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It sure seemed like the refs had some money on the Vikes. I saw several missed calls including a blatant face mask not called. For just a minute I was thinking I was watching a Bears/Pack game.
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McCarthy to the Cowboys.
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Not surprised. He's an even tempered guy who will get along with Jones.
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Metcalf was unbelivale - only hope he has as good of a game against the Peckers.
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Saints appear to have refs ending their season early every year now -must be some voodoo curse from the french quarter or something
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I thought that was crazy...the KR clearly made the sign that we have all seen hundreds of times that “the player gives up,” he makes the catch, and helpfully flips the ball to the referee....and suddenly it’s 1972 and that’s a live ball...are you f*cking kidding me? I’m glad they talked themselves out of that call....
That signal he gave is a signal to his players. He could have caught the ball and ran with it after the signal. It is not like a fair catch. If he just lets it land in the end zone the play is dead.I believe by rule it was a fumble and should have stayed as such. He made the boneheaded play. It should have stood. So now if a defender makes a bone head play and intercepts a ball hits the ground rolls over and jumps up then spins the ball in celebration without ever being touched, because he still thinks he is in college, it's not a fumble? He gave himself up is the new call?
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I just want to see entertaining games not **** up by shitty officiating....
We certainly didn't get that did we...
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As long as the current head of officiating is in place, it will continue to be incompetent....
It was trending that way when Pereirra stepped down as head and Blandino took over and it got worse...
Sensing his incompetence and wishing to cash in, he steps down and elevates "dunce" Riveron to the position and it continues to auger in......
Officiating is going to be the death of this sport.....
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A big problem is parity within the league. Games are starting to come down to officiating.. Not making excuses for the ref's, but the Saints had all game to make a difference.
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We certainly didn't get that did we...
I thought they were very entertaining to watch. And I sure didnt see the OPI the Saints were claiming. It looked more like both players comitted fouls on the play but the Queens came out on top of it.
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You didn't see that BIG arm push the DB away right before the ball came?
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Yeah but it didnt look that strong of a push any more than the push by the defender. Just looked like 2 players going for the ball.
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There was some hand fighting but Rudolph's fully extended arm was offensive pass interference...clearly. The Saint defender had no chance at the ball. The corner referee may not have had the best view since Rudolph was in front of him.
I guess I don't understand the PI review rules.
And the Saints lose their 3rd playoff game in a row with a controversial play.
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Play better and they won't have to deal with the controversial calls
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Yeah, like how many turnovers did the Saints have?
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I really did not at all expect the Queens to come out of Nawlins still standing. Regardless, it ends this week at SF and then once the Pakers win vs Seattle, it'll end for them at SF as well....
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I'm more upset at the obvious procedural things that they cannot miss- such as obvious offsides, false starts, very bad holding and easily visible facemask penalties, of which I've seen more of those this year than I can remember....
These are not subjective calls. These MUST be called every time and its a bad look when they are obviously missed. Which means that they need someone looking for these things during the game (hint- sky ref).....
I don't want a flag fest but if they are not enforcing the rules properly, they will continue to happen.....
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And we know the Pack hold every play.
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And guys like Ritchie Incognito performing obvious knee- ending blocks without consequence....
If history has shown anything to be true, it is that if you don't enforce the rules folks will ignore them....
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This from the fans of Doug Plank...
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The rules are different these days (and rightly so)... and unevenly applied (not rightly so)....
Just look at this https://twitter.com/i/status/1190238129753645056...
Pretty much every one is a penalty other than Walter jumping over the top :D
That players of Burficts and Incongnitos ilk are still playing (due to talent- that does make up for a lot of warts unlike a certain Social Justice Warrior QB who shall remain nameless) when they should have been banned years ago is another symptom of officiating incompetence....
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https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2020/1/10/21059985/nfl-wide-receiver-releases-davante-adams-adam-thielen-allen-robinson
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Well, one of my choices for going to the SB is going down in flames big time-the Ravens. Though for sure they would totally destroy the Titans. But it's going the opposite direction, surprisingly. Lamar Jackson is just another Michael Vick. So I guess my next choice will be a 9ers-Chiefs SB...
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Jackson has looked like sh!t tonight..
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The days are gone when a team like the 85' Bears can make a video and back it up with their play. Nowadays players aren't the same. They believe the hype and play down to it, not up. Can't just show up and be given the ring....
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I was pretty sure it was going to be a Ravens/Niners SB. Looks like a Titans/Niners SB now maybe a Chiefs/Niners SB.
San Francisco doesn't deserve another super bowl but they look like the most complete team in it after the Ravens.
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Henry is just a beast. Wish we had a back like him....
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And watching these Olines it's so clear how pathetic the Bears is. They need that revamped, all of it....don't care how much it cost or how much cap space it takes, revamp it....our guys are slow as freaking molasses.
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the teams that won today had offenses with run first philosophies. Nagy is a pass happy coach.
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Yes and no. Vikings are a run first team and they lost.
Nagy is not really a pass first guy. He tries to be 50/50 and is usually pretty close. I believe Nagy's whole philosophy is to make sure the defense has no idea if run or pass is coming. He wants to make everything we do look the same so a pass or run can come from it.
Solid philosophy. I remember the Wanny days when I could call the play before the snap and so could the opposing defense.
However the execution was terrible. When it was obvious we couldn't run he would adjust. I believe he hates the I formation because it screams run. However that is what was working. It wouldn't work if we went I formation 80% of the time because defenses would adjust.
Between our lack of draft and cap resources I don't see the Bears improving that much from this year. I hope I am wrong.
However if we do Nagy will be the reason. If we don't he will more then likely be fired and rightfully so.
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And watching these Olines it's so clear how pathetic the Bears is. They need that revamped, all of it....don't care how much it cost or how much cap space it takes, revamp it....our guys are slow as freaking molasses.
Agree. The 49ers backs would stumble and fall forward and still get 4 yards.
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Tannehill threw 14 times, Garoppolo 19 times.
I find it impossible to imagine a Nagy team ever passing so little, impossible, inconceivable, beyond belief.
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Trying to remember some of the games earlier this season. Ridiculous pass to run ratio. Seems like 3rd and short more time than not we would pass the the ball.. Nagy better change his ways or he will go down in a ball of flames..
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I like the Titans to go to the SB. I am not sure they beat the 9ers, but man Henry is a MAN. And I kind of like Mike Vrabel too. And the whole Tannehil story, has to give you hope that you can find a QB that fits your system and can make it work. I mean we have to cling to that hope.
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Are we not entertained ? :D
Derrick Henry doing the best imitation of Earl Campbell (since the real Earl Campbell) just killed the Ravens. Stiff armed, ran over, TD throwing a Ravens team that looked like they were penciled in as NFL champions. Hell of a takedown. And it didn't help the Ravens that Lamar Jackson channeled his inner Kirk Cousins throwing the ball (but he is very good thrower for a running back :D).
And speaking of Cousins, he did not play that badly (not well though). Then he realized he was Kirk Cousins. SF is a good team no doubt but they do seem to be having that "magical" year.
I still think a Ravens/KC AFC championship would have been great, but the Titans are old school :D
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Looks like both AFC top seeds going down in flames. KC getting creamed at home 21 zip. Think the layoff hurt em...
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KC and Texans game is sloppy as heck..
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Yeah, don’t think the lay-off hurt too badly...
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Seahawks look like ****. Can't tackle on d, can't block on o.
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That Texans KC game was ridiculous. The entire game turned after KC got that first TD and then goofy Texans decided to try a trick kick at their OWN 30. Doh? Yep. Went downhill after that. Up 24 zip and lose by 20......
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Watson wasn't all that.. Either over the head or in the dirt... Who's that sound like?
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Texans lost their momentum up 21-0, when they decided to kick that FG, instead of go for it on 4th and less than 1, from within the 10yard line. It instantly turned at that point.
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The real turning point in the KC game was the Texans kicking that FG on 4th and 1 when they had all the momentum going for them. That indirectly led them to trying the fake punt to recover momentum they threw away earlier. Heck of a game though......
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Pisses me off that the refs helped the fudge pack win again. That facemask penalty against the Seahawks was clearly a grab on the top of the shoulder pad not the facemask. I wonder if the refs are going to help the pack against the 9ers also. And I bet State Farm is hoping for Pack vs Chiefs, just so they can make the tv commercials....
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I think NFL wants Super Bowl I rematch of Puke & Chiefs for the NFL 100 game. All for the Chiefs going if they can get there. And Go Niners please.
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I agree. It gets the feeling of SB I again. Although I can root for either KC or TN (hated all the NFC teams in the playoffs last week) :D
Officiating is what it is. Bad and getting worse :(
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What about Wilson getting completly knocked down 2 seconds after he released the ball - right before the half ended.
Severla major holding penalties they showed on TV - no calls. Al Michaels goes "it must not have been conclusive"
Aaron Rodgers hugging the head officials before the game. Ridiculous.
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I'm pulling for TN...
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Me too. I like the underdog. 49ers 2nd choice.
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beerbelly
You seem to have a number 2 problem.
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We all do.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/20/free-agent-tight-end-eric-ebron-might-be-interested-in-signing-with-chicago-bears/
We sure need help. If he wants to come, he sure wouldnt hurt
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Doesn't he have health issues??
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Not that I am aware of.
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Changes in personnel are irrelevant until Nagy is gone.
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If the personnel changes dont work then maybe it is on Nagy. 2020 will tell the tale. "We shall see, said the blind man".
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Finally a Super Bowl that isn't Brady to Eddelman.
The Chiefs really deserve it. Mahommes is MVP. Their weak defense has improved over the course of the year. Don't see anyone with anything bad to say about Andy Reid. He deserves the win.
The 49ers are interesting too. They missed on a lot of draft picks but still built a good team in a couple of years. They play with an energy and intensity you just don't often see.
Passing only 8 times they must really not trust Garapollo. He does throw some bad picks but surely they'll have a more balanced game.
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If your offense was running the ball that well with go-cart Mostert, I wouldn't trust ANY QB throwing the ball.
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.....which is why the Bears failed so miserably. ;D
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WHEN will someone tell these defensive coordinators that Bend Don't Break/Prevent defenses prevent you from winning. 3 TDs in the last 9 minutes????
Chuck Pagano is the biggest offender of this.
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The best way to keep KC from scoring in the 4th quarter was for the 49ers to keep their offense on the field. That's where most of the blame should go.
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Yep - they have too many super-fast talented men on that team
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Hill runs in the 4.2s, Watkins and Hardman in the 4.3s, their Halfback Williams in the 4.4s. Kelce is the slowest skill guy in the low 4.6s
Speed everywhere on offense
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Yup, speed kills. We dont have it
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Gabriel - but he is hurt all the time. Burton, but he is hurt all the time. Miller....but he is hurt all the time.
Cohen....but missed used most of the time.
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Watching the first half I was surprised how much Reid’s play calling was like Nagy with all the passes under 5 yards.
Obviously I shouldn’t be surprised but I haven’t seen it from the Chiefs in other game this year.
Since they only had 10 points, Mahommes was struggling and the OL couldn’t protect Mahommes moved out of the pocket the second half either on his own or by design and they improved.
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Cohen runs super fast east to west, north to south, not so much.
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Yup.
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So, when does the XFL start?? I can't remember, was that a indoor league??? I don't believe it was. One of my kids asked me and I didn't know.
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Not an indoor league and starts this weekend on FOX.
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No Chicago team..
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I think the difference is execution.
Early in a game against a defense with a fierce pass rush, you need those short throws to take the edge off the defense, you just gotta connect on them!
Watching the first half I was surprised how much Reid’s play calling was like Nagy with all the passes under 5 yards.....
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New proposal...
3 preseason games.
17 regular season games.
One additional wild card team in each conference.
Only one team in each conference gets a bye week.
5 Billion dollars in additional revenue sharing with the players.
I like this one.
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I love it. And expand the rosters so fewer injuries to starters playing special teams.
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I don't care about the shortened PS - I just don't like having the additional game.
The positive is at season end you either had a winning season or a losing season.
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I don't like the additional game either..
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How could anyone not like more football? What is the problem with one more game?
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Count me too, 16 is enough for me.
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Looking at more from a player health stand point.
This is all about owners cashing in trading a PS game for a real game. Owners (and players) got to fight to feed their families ya know.
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Preseason should go to 2 games. 17 games season, 1 extra playoff game, and expand the rosters.
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I can remember when the rosters were 45. Now it's 53 with a taxi squad. No reason to expand it.
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This is all about owners cashing in trading a PS game for a real game.
You must have missed the 5+Billion in revenue sharing that is going from the owners to the players.
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The players' association wants a piece of the increased legalized gambling profits - not sure how that works
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You must have missed the 5+Billion in revenue sharing that is going from the owners to the players.
I can't say I have ready all the details. I do know that the agreement will let players smoke a lot more pot.
But of course the owners have to throw some $ the players way. They are going to give them $250K for that 17th game, but for a lot of players that amount is a lot less than they make per games 1 thru 16.
I like the expanded practice squads. 3 PS games is fine with me (I remember when there were 5 or 6). I'm ambivalent about the extra wild card team.
I just don't like adding the 17th game.
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I question if they need a way to keep some of those top tier guys from making 20-30m per year and distribute it down the line more. When you have $25-30M tied up in a QB, that makes it really difficult to field a decent team around them. Something along the lines of no player can make more than X% of the cap in any given year.
Then I ask myself if it is better to let the market set the price...... I don’t have a huge issue with Rogers or Brady getting $25-30M per year except it drives up the price for guys who aren’t nearly as good.
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Steven A. Smith had an interesting idea I heard on the radio this afternoon.
Shift to a 17 game schedule BUT each player can only play 16 games. Yeah, there would backup QBs (as well as other positions) getting in a game a season, but each player wouldn't be playing that extra game. Solves the injury concern of adding another game to a long 16 game season.
So you give a guy a rest that's maybe a little banged up - probably not that hard to do.
I like it. Everybody has 16 games of stats - so it doesn't throw off the comparisons of numbers to previous years.
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I can remember when the rosters were 45. Now it's 53 with a taxi squad. No reason to expand it.
Each team in the NFL has 53 active players on the roster, but on game days only 46 can dress. That is why we see the inactives every week. Additionally, there are 10 practice squad players. So effectively, the roster is 63 players, however, only 46 dress each week.
My point was that all 53 game day active players should be allowed to dress.
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Steven A. Smith had an interesting idea I heard on the radio this afternoon.
Shift to a 17 game schedule BUT each player can only play 16 games. Yeah, there would backup QBs (as well as other positions) getting in a game a season, but each player wouldn't be playing that extra game. Solves the injury concern of adding another game to a long 16 game season.
So you give a guy a rest that's maybe a little banged up - probably not that hard to do.
I like it. Everybody has 16 games of stats - so it doesn't throw off the comparisons of numbers to previous years.
When to sit your starting QB would certainly give the Monday morning QBs plenty of fodder, lol. But the rules are there for everyone so why not?
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So here it is. The proposed CBA is put to the membership for a vote. This exchange on twitter between two team mates is interesting. One has millions piled up in his bank (RG III). The other player (Nick Sunberg) gets by year to year scratching and clawing for what he gets. The players without the HUGE contracts far outnumber the players with huge contracts. They seem to like the 17th game, more money with the +5Billion in revenue sharing, shorter pension eligibility from 4 years to 3 years investment, healthcare for life and so on...
https://thefandc.radio.com/nick-sundberg-rg3-twitter-duel-spotlights-cba-challenges?fbclid=IwAR0KMpYqw1tF6_Z2HjSywJA0eAzSn95x4fOPjtqxhTHgKCB8LdIX-2P09Vg
His last tweet to RG3 has one huge point that the superstars seem to forget. "Fans aren’t fans of us, they’re fans of teams. Players come and go, they’ll watch and gamble on anything."
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Reduce preseason to 3 games and keep 16 games in regular season.
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Wow. I actually agree with Otto. That's a first.
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Reduce preseason to 2 games. Every team gets one home game, and done. I don't have a real dog in 16 or 17, but if they played a 17th game it would be cool to have it as a neutral site game in areas with a decent population - San Antonio, Memphis, other countries Mexico, England, Canada, etc. I love the idea of expanding the playoff contenders and only the best team gets a first round bye.
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Vikings give Cousins a 2 year extension.
Falcons are releasing Devonta Freeman.
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Packers are signing Christian Kirksey for 2/16...will this mean they are not a player for Kwiatkowski?
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Chiefs tag Chris Jones
Giants tag Leonard Williams
Steelers tag Bud Dupree
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Bucs tag Shaq Barrett
Cowboys tag Dak Prescott
Bengals tag AJ Green
Titans tag Derrick Henry
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Packers are signing Christian Kirksey for 2/16...will this mean they are not a player for Kwiatkowski?
Maybe. Christian Kirksey was a will in the Brown's 4-3 defense. Does he project to ILB in Packer's 3-4?
They said he had some injuries the last couple years to the Pack may have got him on a deal. Blake Martinez is still a FA so they still might be looking for another ILB that's cheaper. Unless they continue to run that 4-1-6 defense.
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Interesting:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/15/how-does-nfls-198-2m-salary-cap-impact-the-bears/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline
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Wow. I actually agree with Otto. That's a first.
Amazing.. I agree with him as well..
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Cardinals trade David Johnson and a 2nd rounder to the Texans for DeAndre Hopkins and a 4th rounder.
The Texans front office are complete morons.
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The Browns are signing Austin Hooper for 4/44.
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Dolphins sign Shaq Lawson for 3/30
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Colts talking to Philip Rivers; Bucs talking to Bridgewater as plan B if Brady goes back to NE...
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Wow...the 49ers have traded DeForest Buckner to the Colts for a 1st round pick (13th overall).
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Kwiatkowski reportedly getting 3/21, with 13.5 guaranteed...
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Cardinals trade David Johnson and a 2nd rounder to the Texans for DeAndre Hopkins and a 4th rounder.
The Texans front office are complete morons.
That's just it, they have no front office right now. Obrien is running the team.
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Jack Conklin to the Browns...3/42...
Where do they get all this money?
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Kwiatkowski reportedly getting 3/21, with 13.5 guaranteed...
Isn't that less than what the Bears awarded Trevathan? 3/24 right?
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I think Trevathan was 14M guaranteed, with 21.75 base, and possibly up to 24...
Roughly the same deal, more or less...
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Bears valued Trevathan's leadership and experience over Kwiatowski's potential and youth (3 year differential).
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Mariotta to the raiders.
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I think we will be looking at Foles...
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Ya think?
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How bout the Bears let the current guy heal up and then see? Money sure as hell could be spent elsewhere.
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So we dont need any backup QB? Daniel and the other QB are FAs. Cant depend on Trubisky to be 100% for the whole season can we?
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2020/3/16/21182809/by-pursuing-teddy-bridgewater-bears-ryan-pace-admits-he-was-wrong-about-mitch-trubisky-matt-nagy
The Bears did agree to a contract with 33-year-old tight end Jimmy Graham on Monday. You might remember him from the 1970s.
Ouch!
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Tom Brady just said goodbye and thanks to the Pats on his instagram.
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https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/1239895289424642050/photo/1
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That might free up Carr.
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So what does that say to Mariotta?
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Here is another wonderful thought:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/16/chris-sims-chicago-bears-will-sign-quarterback-teddy-bridgewater-free-agency/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline
When it comes down to it, the Bears likely won’t be able to afford Bridgewater. According to Spotrac, Bridgewater’s market value is $21.5 million. And you have to wonder if that value will increase should a bidding war ensue for his services.
UGH! No puede ser.
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Panthers are finalizing a deal with Teddy Bridgewater, and they have given Cam Newton permission to seek a trade.
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Amari Cooper re-signs with Dallas for 5/100...60 guaranteed...
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Philip Rivers to the Colts...1/25
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Jason Witten to the Raiders...didn't see that coming...
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Cowboys spent big to re-sign TE Blake Jarvin.
No money left for the old man Witten who had more of a sentimental connection to the old staff.
But the cap is a cap.
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BRADY TO THE BUCS!!!!!!
Going to be hard to root for him after years of hatred. But that's off to the team for giving the defense a legit qb.
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Broncos are releasing Joe Flacco.
Titans traded Jurell Casey to Denver for a 7th rounder. He was probably going to be cut due to his huge salary, so that kinda sets the market for guys with big salaries...
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Brady at the Bucs is career suicide.
Best would have been to retire.
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Bucs last year had the 3rd best offense in the NFL. Defense was a respectable 15th.
7-9 record probably due to turnover machine Winston. 30 picks and half a dozen fumbles lost.
I don't know what they've done in free agency but they could be in the hunt for the playoffs with Brady.
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not just 30 picks, 6 pick 6's. Defensive player of the year.
The team has a great defense, it improved a ton over the course of the year... moving towards a mistake free offense will be a huge boon.
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Panthers have released Eric Reid, but he’s more of a free safety, isn’t he?
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Not really....he's 6-1 215.
No picks in 2019 - but get this - 130 tackles. Carolina did not have a good run defense last year.
We need to sign a couple FA safeties even if Pace spends #43 on the position.
There's a number of available safeties out there - Ha Ha may actually be the best of the bunch.
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The Bucs will be 7-9 or 8-8 with Brady. He is inaccurate with passes more than 20 yards downfield and old man mobility in pocket.
Tampa coach Arians has a vertical passing game that will now need to be retooled for short timing routes. Brady has to forget 20 years with one team, learn new teammates and methods while the weight of Tom Brady is on his back to win.
8-8.
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Talking about "career suicide" in relation to Tom Brady is analogous to a 100 year old man who **** a 10 every single week of his adult life killing himself.
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Doesn't matter that Brady gets to lay with a model, this move to TB will hurt his legacy more than help it.
The magic for Montana or Favre never happened post move.
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Belichick greater than Brady. About to be proven.
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I told my son earlier today that the most Belichick thing ever would be for him to sign Jameis and win the SB in Tampa next January.
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This would be epic!
I told my son earlier today that the most Belichick thing ever would be for him to sign Jameis and win the SB in Tampa next January.
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BTW, the Bears have Tampa Bay on their schedule this season. Home game. So you know it won't be in December.
Also we get to face Floyd (Rams) and Foles may get to play his old Jaguars team.
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It will be telling to see what the Patriots do this year, without TB. Is it TB, Belechik, or a combo that made them so good. Cant wait to find out.
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Other QBs looked pretty good the few times Brady was out.
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Belichek for years loses FAs in his offensive line, skill positions and defense every year - yet he is able to plug in a replacement in and keep winning.
Coaching is more than game planning - it's also teaching.
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I thought towards the end of last season Brady started showing his age.. I agree with otto, I think it's a big mistake, on Brady's part..
Put me down as Belicheck being the reason they win, not Brady. Not that Brady is a slouch. He was one of the best in the league.. Dallas hit the nail on the head..
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It will be interesting to see what New England does for a QB.. Talk about Winston... It would be a serious butt grinder if Trubisky ended up there and was successful..
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You make that much money - you gotta change the scenery every now and then - Gisele on the beach?
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Yes, please
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Rams release Gurley and Matthews
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I figured Brady and Belichick were hooked together at the hip and when one went, the other would too. Guess Bill wants to see what he can do w/o Brady. Would be a total trip for them to be as competitive and end up in the mix in January...
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If Belichek can win the division with last year's rookie QB Jarrett Stidham as the starter then they better just crown his a$$ into the HOF now.
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Ebron sign with Pitt for 2 yr/12 mil? Without knowing the guarantees I would prefer that over Graham 100 times out of 100.
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YEP!
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I hope the fukk the next GM is capable of drafting. I would've said better than Pace but that wouldn't take much..
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Bengals have released CB Dre Kirkpatrick...he'd be worth a look if the price was manageable...
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There's not too many corners in the NFL over 30 - there's a reason why.
He'll be 31 this October. Missed 10 games in 2019. One interception over the last 3 seasons.
Doesn't appear to be much of an upgrade over Prince, but I guess if the price is right he'd be somebody a team could sign if in real need of depth.
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I didn't realize he was that old...time flies...
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We're all just reelin' in the years. Right now I'd like to throw 2020 back.
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We're all just reelin' in the years. Right now I'd like to throw 2020 back.
Your aren't sh!ttin!!
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We might have to forget the 2020 season...
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Hope not. That's at least something to look forward to. Right now, ain't much....can't plan for anything.
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We might have to forget the 2020 season...
I'm still hopeful there's some kind of a baseball season.. Probably more like wishful thinking..
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I seriously doubt that baseball will be played this year. Many projections show peaks in mid summer for parts of the US.
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So Gronk is un-retiring in Tampa for Tom Terrific?
Maybe something went sour in NE for both Gronk and Brady?
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Gronk said he retired because the Pats told him he was being traded to Detroit.
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I thought that was a joke too
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Wow Jamaal Adams got his wish to be traded.
He and a 4th to the Seahawks for a safety 2 firsts and a third.
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That's a heavy price. Wow
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As mentioned above, i don’t think it will make any difference,
I wonder who will watch if they do play. Im pretty much out.
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Yep
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Other opt outs...
Giants LT Nate Solder
Chiefs RB Damien Williams
Packers WR Devin Funchess
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Is the opt-out like IR or is there a possibility to be opt-in'd at a later time if the Covid climate improves signiicantly.
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Can’t come back this season
They sign up and have one week to make it final
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Covid 19 can be especially deadly for diabetics (Cutler) and asthmatics (Goldman).
I guess its like the NFL was playing PS games and a bunch of these guys tore their ACLs.
Next man up.
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Dallas - Thanks for posting that, I was wondering if Goldman had a preexisting condition. I also heard yesterday, that players with a preexisting condition get paid $350,000 when they sit out. Those players just sitting out for other reasons get paid $150,000.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/08/09/xfl-should-consider-a-fall-2020-season/
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Re: tonight's game...
One end zone says "End Racism", and the other one says "It's On All Of Us".
For those of you offended, CBS is airing "Big Brother" and "Love Island", FOX has "Gordon Ramsay's 24 Hours to Hell and back" and a couple of episodes of "Last Man Standing", and ABC is airing a couple of episodes of "Holey Moley". There's also US Open tennis on ESPN and WNBA on ESPN2.
I would also mention Lakers/Rockets on TNT, but let's get real...no one skipping the NFL tonight is watching NBA anything...
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Oh boy, "end racism", a game played by black millionaires..... WTF?
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It makes everyone feel better while accomplishing nothing
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How about they put "blue lives matter" at one end zone.. How many officers lose their lives in the line of duty.. needlessly.. Fukk the NFL
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It will be interesting to see what happens tonight - maybe they just play the anthem with no fans and no players.
No drama - just football.
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ehhhh.
I didn't find a problem with any of it. Was Gordon Ramsay's to Hell and Back a rerun? I love that dude. Especially Hell's Kitchen which has been a rerun of last season. :(
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I taped the game and will FF thru anything I dont want to watch. May just do the same with the Bears game, at least the first 10 minutes or so. Problem solved. I tried to watch some of the pregame stuff last night and had to turn it off immediately.
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https://sportsnaut.com/2020/09/nfl-televison-ratings-anthem-protests/
NFL should take notice. Fans are not happy!
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Yup, agreed
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https://sportsnaut.com/2020/09/nfl-televison-ratings-anthem-protests/
NFL should take notice. Fans are not happy!
They won't take notice cause there are still enough fans that would rather support BLM by watching the games rather than take a stand for our country. That would be the first thing. Secondly, they'll blame it all on something else, corona etc..
If the NFL was standing behind this country they would have "blue lives matter" as well as their "racial equality" symbols.. Police officers are leaving for work everyday with a big bullseye on their back.. People are turning a blind eye to this...
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/compton-ambush-leaves-2-la-county-sheriffs-deputies-fighting-for-their-lives
This is what the NFL is supporting and feeding into.. Just as you guys are doing the same by supporting the NFL..
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Taking a stand for our country is to support racial justice.
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Really?
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Tampa Bay with Brady?
Meh
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Taking a stand for our country is to support racial justice.
We support justice, actual justice. when you put a modifying adjective in front of a word you change the meaning of the word. Actual justice doesn't depend on skin color or group identity, social justice does. They are completely different things.
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billdull
What a typical response form a old white guy with his sense of privilege firmly intact. Justice in this country has historically been based on skin color and ability to pay for it.
Present day calls for social justice are to put the blinders on the people who hold the justice scales.
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billdull
What a typical response form a old white guy with his sense of privilege firmly intact. Justice in this country has historically been based on skin color and ability to pay for it.
Present day calls for social justice are to put the blinders on the people who hold the justice scales.
"Old White Guy", you mean like Biden? The party of diversity and that's the best they could come up with... I get it, they made up for it with the "African American" VP nominee... What a joke!
Dem party has kept the black people down. They like keeping them in the projects in the cities. You know, the Dem controlled cities. When I say keep 'em down, I'm talking keep 'em poor... You know, so they need handouts... In exchange for votes..
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ChiffyinDemocraticva
When will your so called assessments of reality, actually be a reality.
The Democratic Party just twice elected an African-American president. We currently have a mixed race VP candidate. This all the while the privilege party as been alt-white.
If you don’t like racial unity messages, stop watching all sports that aren’t alt-white. You can watch biker clicks eat hotdogs hung from strings while on a Harley....
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Channel number please ?
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Otter - You can take your stereotype of bikers being "alt-white" and shove them up your racist arse...
There are plenty of Black bikers and even an annual Black Bike Week celebration in Myrtle Beach SC every year.
http://www.blackbikeweek.us/
But none of this has anything to do with Around the NFL so move it over to the politics thread.
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I don't think many people would disagree there's racism.
It's really pretty universal among all races.
I also don't disagree with athletes working to increase awareness and work to end racism.
It's just how that's expressed and when that's the problem.
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Pleased the 9ers, Eagles and Cowboys lost.
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Pleased the 9ers, Eagles and Cowboys lost.
Add the bucs to the list. The Brady/gronk fawning was so over the top this off-season. Brady/Gronk both looked bad yesterday.
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Keiatkowski had 6 tackles in 22 plays yesterday before he left the game with a pec injury. Initial fear was a torn pectoral, but it sounds like that was ruled out today
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Add the bucs to the list. The Brady/gronk fawning was so over the top this off-season. Brady/Gronk both looked bad yesterday.
Loved the Saints pic six!
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I read somewhere that was his third in a row in games. oops.
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The onside kick at the end of the Falcons/Cowboys game was laughable.
The Falcons treated the ball as if it was covered with smallpox.
They are clowns, and deserved to lose after that.
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Digital boos, lol
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/carson-wentz-booed-eagles-fans/1xj07vhmo9gmo1frqm7uo3f2r5
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Wow Cousins was awful today.
A lot of teams with multiple injuries; Bears have been lucky.
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The onside kick at the end of the Falcons/Cowboys game was laughable.
The Falcons treated the ball as if it was covered with smallpox.
They are clowns, and deserved to lose after that.
The Falcons special teams coach should be fired. Did they never work on onside kick drills?
And speaking of special teams - has Tarik Cohen returned a punt this year?
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I didn’t see the National anthem televised on any of the games this weekend.
I may have missed it.
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So, if you didn't see it, it didn't happen???
I think it was replaced by a trump loyalty oath, but I didn't see it...
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So, if you didn't see it, it didn't happen???
I think it was replaced by a trump loyalty oath, but I didn't see it...
You seriously need to get a personality.
Just going through life as the internet jerk can’t be satisfying.
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Browns 340 yards in the first half against the Cowboys
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Kareem Hunt
2 years/13.25 million/8.5 guaranteed
Tarik Cohen
3 years/17.25 million/9.5 guaranteed
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Kareem Hunt
2 years/13.25 million/8.5 guaranteed
Tarik Cohen
3 years/17.25 million/9.5 guaranteed
And we got one healthy game before he got hurt. Cohen had already lost a step since his first two years. I doubt he'll ever be an NFL contributor again.
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The checks will cash though. I know its cliche, but there's a reason not alot of "small" people are in the NFL. They rely on speed and agility, and eventually some monster busts them
into a millions pieces. Remeber the wide out the Bears got in the Cutler trade? What was his name?
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If you mean Johnny Knox...he was much bigger than Cohen...
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That's him, he was bigger, but I always thought him to be slender than most on the field. I remember in the 80's meeting an nfl punter, he was huge. A punter!
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Texans launched the hc. Quick trigger .
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too bad Nagy's not next
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Quinn for the Falcons should be next......
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Snacks Harrison expected (https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/seahawks/article/seahawks-to-sign-damon-harrison-to-practice-squad-15627836.php) to sign with Seattle practice squad. I assume they will protect him as well...
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There was certainly no rush by any team to sign him.
I’m curious if the guy from the Steelers can at least be a rotational player
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Fake Prescott down with his ankle pointing sideways.
Looks like whoever can get 5 wins takes the NFC east.
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I saw it happen and had to turn away. By all accounts he's a decent kid (even wants to stand for the flag !) and it sucks to get hurt on a fluke play like that. He gambled with the Franchise Tag and lost......
Prefer if this had to happen it happened to a certain arrogant QB in the NFC North.......
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Erin has a pact with the devil, that will never happen.
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I don't like the Packers or Rodgers, but I wouldn't wish that on anybody. That's alot of agony years down the road. Dak is looking at a forever rehab, that's for sure. Wonder if the boys need a qb?
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Local folks in Dallas are saying he should be ready to start getting back into shape in 6 months or so. Just depends on whether he has nerve damage. One doctor said this was not as bad as an ACL tear.
Should know more about it when he completes initial surgery.
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They have Andy Dalton - they'll win the division now
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at 6-10 :D
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They have Andy Dalton - they'll win the division now
Are you insinuating that Dalton is a better QB than Prescott?
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Look what he did for the Bengals
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Andy Dalton's career QB rating is 87.6 and he has won 53% of his games
Mitch Trubisky's career QB rating is 85.9 and he has won 59% of his games
Dak Prescott career QB rating 97.3 and he has won 61% of his games
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Ummm, pretty sure he is/was joking.. Although, it won't take much to win that division..
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How many playoff wins are we comparing here?
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"Playoffs?!?!" "Don't talk about playoffs! You kiddin' me? Playoffs?
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Playoff record by QB
Dalton 0-4
Trubisky 0-1
Prescott 1-2
So, were are we now...
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Otto
You're a fukking genius. The Cowboys should start a QB that has a winning playoff record. How come I didn't think of that?
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Playoff record by QB
Dalton 0-4
Trubisky 0-1
Prescott 1-2
So, were are we now...
And your point?
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Really!
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Point is who the fuk cares who QBs the hapless Cowboys.
Same for the Bears.
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Kind of an ahole:
Emmanuel Acho
@EmmanuelAcho
Tom Brady sprinted to shake Aaron Rodgers hand, but let Nick Foles beat him and he can’t get to the Locker Room faster!
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I don't think it was about Foles at all. I think he was pissed at himself for thinking it was third down. No excuse but I don't think it was because Foles beat him again.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick: "There's a lot of stuff going through my mind yesterday...Is this it? I've been a starter, I've been benched all kinds of different ways...but this was kind of the first place other than Buffalo that I've been fully committed and invested. I felt it was my team. I basically got fired yesterday and my day today consisted of zoom meetings with the guy who fired me and sitting in a room with the guy who replaced me for four hours."
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It's a young man's game. Fitzpatrick will be 38 next month.
He probably won't be traded (he's probably better than a dozen staters) - he's just an insurance policy now.
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@FieldYates
Within the past year, Ravens GM Eric DeCosta has traded for Yannick Ngakoue, Marcus Peters and Calais Campbell in exchange for a total three fifth-round picks, a third-round pick and back-up LB Kenny Young.
10:15 AM · Oct 22, 2020
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Miami locks up Adam Shaheen:
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/10/dolphins-extend-adam-shaheen
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Miami locks up Adam Shaheen:
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/10/dolphins-extend-adam-shaheen
I don't get it. Never say anything from him that said either availability or actual ability. Pace saw that he would be the next Jimmy Graham, Trubisky the next Brees, Coen-Sproles Nagy-Payton, The ghost of Jimmy Graham-Jimmy Graham, himself the smartest guy in any room at any time.
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In spite of the Bears loss, it was nice to see the Puke lose also. It was funny in the first half the Vikes got some penalties called against GB, and I was like WHAT??? Then in the second half the real refs showed up, especially that 12 men on the field call against the Vikes when the video showed it wasnt a penalty. Congrats on Vikes for beating the Puke AND the Refs.
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Titans just got Desmond King from the Chargers for a 6th rounder.
I don't think he'll be eligible to play this weekend though.
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Nope. That was one of the drawbacks from this years trading deadline. You wouldn't be able to use them until at least the following game.
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What we need are linemen,badly....
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What we need are linemen,badly....
Several teams lost OL yesterday so I doubt there's much available.
For all the signings and changes made this last offseason I was concerned about the OL
They signed Ifedi who was a disappointment in Seattle and the always injured Spriggs.
Maybe they thought Castillo could change everything but it's still the weakest area of the team.
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How many times do we opposing teams' offensive lineman down field going after our DBs? In the very few occasions you see a Bear lineman downfield he usually whiffs or can't decide who to block.
I just can't get over how other teams pitch the ball to one side of the field and all of a sudden have 5 blockers going against 3 Bear defenders. Why can't the Bears do that?
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Funny they were good at that with Darrel Loggains as OC and Jordan Howard.
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It's hard to fathom why the line is so inept at run blocking. Leno looks just lost out there, letting guys by and whiffing constantly. Coward ain't any better. These guys aren't doing even the simple things right. Something is seriously wrong with that!
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Why is it so hard to imagine? You're talking about a 7th round pick and a converted DLman...
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Why is it so hard to imagine? You're talking about a 7th round pick and a converted DLman...
Shouldn't that be a clue to the front office?
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It should have been a monster clue bell to them the way Leno played LAST season. Get someone, get a body, get a better tackle! But did they? Nope. I agree.....they are not making the line a priority by putting a conversion and a 7th rounder there. If this team is one thing,it's consistently inept....
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Brady gets sacked 3 times in a row by the same guy then throws it up for grabs for the int
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It should have been a monster clue bell to them the way Leno played LAST season. Get someone, get a body, get a better tackle! But did they? Nope. I agree.....they are not making the line a priority by putting a conversion and a 7th rounder there. If this team is one thing,it's consistently inept....
No first rounder. Big need at corner. Lesser need at TE with the Graham signing. No 3rd round pick. No 4th round pick.
Finding lineman in free agency gets you Ifedi and Spriggs.
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Obviously the Jets are a bad team but they sure have some hard hitting tacklers on the defense
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All the old Dolphins players from 72 lightning up cigars whenever the undefeated team loses a game.
As far as I’m concerned they’re far from the best team in the modern era.
Bears. Giants. Steelers and 49 red all better.
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For anyone who did not catch JJ Watt's comments post game here you go
https://twitter.com/i/status/1343317266725789696
Amen !
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I've been saying that very thing for years. I think the players, coaches, owners, sometimes forget why they're out there and who pays the bills..
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WOW. The football team release Haskins today. He is a true bust and dope.
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JaMarcus Russell part two...
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/michael-richardson-super-bowl-champ-with-1985-bears-arrested-on-murder-charge-151930337.html
I dont remember this guy
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You don't remember Mike Richardson?? Cornerback?? L.A. Mike? Superbowl Shuffle??
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Richardson was a pretty good corner.
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A very good member on arguably the best team of all time for the year. That doesn,'t disqualify him from being a murderer
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Using/dealing drugs will **** you up.....
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His nickname was LA Mike, because they said he was from L.A., but the players said they called him that because he was a Lazy Asss.
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And he always got torched when they played in LA.
Sitka used to get so mad at him saying he couldn’t play in LA.
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replay shows clear spearing & announcers pretend they don't see it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKSlZm6WkCQ
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Bill they talked about it.
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The 3 QBs vying for MVP and the GOAT are the 4 guys playing for the championship.
Better have a QB if you want to win titles...
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No doubt.
It’s setting up pretty well for Green Bay.
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Somebody needs to take this fuckwad out...
https://twitter.com/nflhumor/status/1350989667676659712?s=21
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Bucs beat them 38-10 earlier in the season. That was before the Bucs really gelled on offense. Hell the Bears beat them around that time.
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It was probably a (very poor) attempt to peanut punch the ball out. But that was not a good look for the NFL at all (not that they seem to care)....
As an aside, whenever I hear an announcer say "peanut punch", it makes me smile inside. Some players carry themselves with a certain grace and form, and Peanut was one of those. Peanut deserves to be in the HoF if just for getting the "peanut punch" phrase coined much less for his other achievements :D
Kind of sad though at the same time. All we have are past great teams to hang onto for the foreseeable future.....
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Matthew Stafford is on the trading block. He'll be 33 next month.
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He will end up in NE or IND I think
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Geez a couple of bad passes in the end zone by Rogers and Troy Aikman blames Davonte Adams both times.
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We could've had Patrick Mahomes. Right up there with I fu*ked Bea Arthur as the most disappointing phrases a man can state.
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There’s just no way to stop that KC offense.
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According to Adam Schefter the Rams traded for Stafford in exchange for Goff 2 first round picks and a 3rd.
What do you think Watson will get?
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A QB that really has no NFL resume. All I can say, the Rams wanted to get rid of Goff bad..
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Way over paid for a 32 year old injury prone QB.
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The Lions got the better end of that deal and it isn't even close.
Stafford is a turn over machine.
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I'd read the return as a 1 and a 3 for Stafford and a 1 for taking goffs contract
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/30/chicago-bears-showing-interest-matthew-stafford-trade-detroit-lions/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&ats=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
Better late than never huh?
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Fire ! Ready ! Aim ! That would be so McMediocre & company like....
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Way over paid for a 32 year old injury prone QB.
He's 33, but has started 16 games in 9 out of his last 10 seasons. This past season 16 starts.
The Lions got the better end of that deal and it isn't even close.
Stafford is a turn over machine.
2% interceptions or less the past 5 seasons. That's 10 or 11 pics max over 16 games. In comparison Bears QBs threw for 16 last year.
Lions probably got the better end of the deal long term considering Goff's age (26) and the 2 1s, but the Rams could be tough the next couple of seasons with Stafford. Stafford played well enough to win both games last year against the Bears.
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Stafford has been on the injury report 23% of the games in his career. He’s tough but has been limited by those injuries.
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I heard the Rams reached out to GB to try and trade for Rogers. Can you imagine how scary they would be if Rogers was on the Rams?
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Very scary.
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If I were a guessing man I'd guess that the Rams are a late rounds QB hunter. That should scare the Bears too. Means that some late round player will have to be a higher pick.
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Hand was under that ball...that was a TO. The lady ref blew that call....
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What you've seen tonight is what Mahomes would have become if he had been drafted by the Bears.
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But instead of Kelce he'd be throwing to guys like an injured Trey Burton, Adam Shaheen and Ben Braunecker.
Must admit Mahomes made some incredible throws even though none were completed.
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Brady sure got the last laugh. What did NE win, 5 games? Brady wins another Super Bowl... Actually... they spanked the defending champs..
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My favorite part was when my boy Antoine Winfield Jr. balled out with an INT and had the sweetest revenge (https://twitter.com/seth_mgreen/status/1358611873873207296) on Tyreek Hill. Damn I wanted the Bears to draft him so bad.
Brady has more SB championships than every NFL franchise. Unreal.
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And here I always thought Belichek was the mad scientist who made Brady successful
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Brady has more Super Bowl MVPs then other players have league MVPs. Actually he is tied with Peyton Manning with 5.
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Considering all those SB wins but one were with the Patriots (and all their SB wins in toto), in stands to reason with 1 more SB win with another team he would have more SB wins than any team. Its a wow- meh stat. The truly amazing stat is that he's 1-0 in SB with a new team :D
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Marty Schottenheimer passed today at the age of 77. RIP Marty.
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Marty was from the old school football
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Good regular season coach. Not so lucky post-season though. RIP.......
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Really funny -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voPXuIeJOCY
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https://www.profootballrumors.com/2021/02/seahawks-russell-wilson-open-to-cowboys-saints-raiders-bears
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32 eh. and you want that?
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Same old thing, depends on the cost...
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32 is how close to retirement? Thats my point. I sure wouldnt gamble on some QB that age. Upside is minimal.
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Anyone thinking only an upgrade at QB (which Wilson would definitely be) is going to cure the offensive woes is fooling themselves (so it means Nag/Pace are trying to get it done probably). Any assets given up (including guaranteed $$$ for salary) will surely hamstring the next HC/GM combo coming in 2022....
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The funny thing is Wilson is upset that his protection was so bad and he got hit a lot. Um, our OL is not going to be an upgrade, sorry.
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Wilson doesn't want to be traded. Seattle doesn't want to trade him. Somehow this is a story?
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/report-russell-wilson-views-bears-chance-bridge-nfl-management?
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Insane. Like he wants to die.
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Even Erin wants Wilson to the Bears
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/packers-great-thinks-russell-wilsons-best-landing-spot-bears
You gotta beware when Erin wants something for arch rival. That means its a no-no.
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Or unless he feels sorry for the Bears' organization and isn't worried who they put at QB.
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Drew Brees is working out. If he is going to play another year how much you want to bet it is because Pace wants him in Chicago? He looked like a guy who was retiring, now not so much.
I believe the Saints are ready to move on. Brees makes good decisions but his arm looked shot last year. He could only dink and dunk. Maybe it is an injury he can over come. Who knows...
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/27/trainer-posts-drew-brees-workout-video-suggests-something-must-be-brewing/
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No offense to Drew Brees, but he is not what the Bears need. 1 year left, yeah good brain, arm questionable, I would pass. He is not the missing piece for the Bears to win the superbowl or make the playoffs for many years to come.
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Even Erin wants Wilson to the Bears
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/packers-great-thinks-russell-wilsons-best-landing-spot-bears
You gotta beware when Erin wants something for arch rival. That means its a no-no.
Why are you calling Greg Jennings "Erin?"
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Its a masculinity fade. Just like some folks were on PFT calling his engagement a "Smokescreen". Kind of funny in an old fashioned way....
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The Chiefs just released both of their starting OT's, and are still $5M over the cap...
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The Chiefs just released both of their starting OT's, and are still $5M over the cap...
With a lot of their roster unsigned
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They’re letting their center go as well...
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NFLN said they have only 1 OL signed.
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Uh oh....
https://nypost.com/2021/03/17/deshaun-watson-lawsuit-graphic-details-emerge/
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Chiefs signed Kyle Long.
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Bills signed Mitch
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Well good thing Bears couldn’t trade for Watson.
I see a long league suspension brewing.
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Jaguars signing CJ Beathard. There's more than smoke to Minshew trade rumors...
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What could they get for Minshew? 3rd or 4th rounder?
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That's what I'm thinking. If we could offload Foles to another team I'd love to bring Minshew in.
He wasn't the problem in Jacksonville. Frankly, he's better than Dalton.
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LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uglEXVVn5mA
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I bet you watch that 10 times a day.
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LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uglEXVVn5mA
I like the info on Leonard Floyds numbers relating to playing next to Aaron Donald. But he lost me when he said they needed to further develop Trubisky who he later says is terrible. Then suggests that the Bears needed to sign a player like Cam Newton on the cheap (he got $14M) and build up the rest of the team. How did the signing of Cam Newton help the Pats last year? Makes no sense.
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Jets trade Darnold to the Panthers for a sixth this year and a second and fourth next year.
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I would have ideally liked to see what he could have done with the Bears but there are just too many similarities to Trubisky.
Bears would be even more of a laughing stock if he didn’t play well.
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And you don't think Doolin Dalton makes the Bears a laughing stock?
Think of all the people who insisted signing Dalton was just a prelude to further moves at QB. After all the Bears couldn't be THAT stupid!
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Signing Dalton was a last resort after the Russell Wilson trade didn’t work , not a long term plan.
Giving up picks for a longer term commitment is a decision and a plan, very different.
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Crazy but true....he might be leaving football for this....
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-gets-high-praise-from-key-jeopardy-executive-after-first-week-of-hosting-iconic-game-show/
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Crazy but true....he might be leaving football for this....
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-gets-high-praise-from-key-jeopardy-executive-after-first-week-of-hosting-iconic-game-show/
Not soon enough I'm afraid.
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Broncos got Teddy Bridgewater for a 6th....
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Wait, we gave up a 4th to get Foles and Bridgewater only costs a 6th?
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Foles is better than Checkdown Ted...
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Foles is better than Checkdown Ted...
FOLES QBR 43.3
BRIDGEWATER QBR 64.2
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And yet Ryan Pace kept his job, AND gets to run another draft. Sigh.
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Adam Schefter is reporting Aaron Rogers does not want to return to Green Bay.
The Packers front office has made trips to the west coast to convince him but he is set.
He also has a rumor the 49ers have discussed a trade with the packers.
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Beat me too it. I just got that alert on my phone as well.
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Rodgers trade list: 49ers, Broncos, Raiders
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Pro Football for $1600, please...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210429/d046ac0ebb1217c40fbb4c46f76a6f8f.jpg)
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I say he goes to Denver. Makes too much sense.
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But would Erin beat out Teddy Bridgewater??? If he gets traded it will truly be like Christmas day.....
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I think he should host the Jeopardy show - full time.
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If I were pace I’d offer the next 3 1st for Rodgers.
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Multiple reports that the Broncos are close to a deal...
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We should only get so lucky
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That way he could play his State Farm buddy Mahomes twice a season instead of the Bears
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There’s a buzz building in league circles regarding a possible trade that would send quarterback Aaron Rodgers from the Packers to the Broncos. And while it could indeed happen, nothing is currently going on.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, no negotiations are happening between Denver and Green Bay. The Broncos’ brain trust is in the draft room, preparing to make their move at No. 9, whether it’s trade up, trade down, or stay in their current spot.
That doesn’t mean talks are impossible. Anything can happen. But it’s not happening yet. If it’s going to happen tonight (and if the Packers are going to get the ninth overall pick), it needs to get started before the Broncos trade or use their selection.
So stay tuned.
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Jeopardy theme song playing right now...
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haha, it sure is. Possible movie career too. He already has been getting Holywood exposure with State Farm commercials. UGH!
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I just cannot stop smiling...
Vikings alter Kirk Cousins succession plan after losing out on Justin Fields (https://www.espn.com/blog/minnesota-vikings/post/_/id/31109/vikings-alter-kirk-cousins-succession-plan-after-losing-out-on-justin-fields)
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But you seem to fail to realize that they still got the QB the Bears should have drafted. Plus they didnt overpay for what they got like we stupidly did.
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OK, so you are officially now going on record as not being behind the Bears drafting Justin Fields.
It will be interesting to follow the careers of the Vikings Darrisaw and Monds vs Jenkins and Fields.
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Yes but we are talking about coaching too. Bears coaching is always suspect
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How good a job did Belichek do without Brady this year?
It's all about the QB.
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How about the coaching of the players in front of the QB?
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When Belicheck was asked what he looks for in a QB, he replied...
1) decision making
2) anticipation
3) accuracy
Tru had 0 of these. Let's hope Fields has 3.
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But you seem to fail to realize that they still got the QB the Bears should have drafted. Plus they didnt overpay for what they got like we stupidly did.
This is just nutty.
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Apparently you dont understand my meaning. No problem
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And how many QBs have the Bears swung at and missed in the last 30 years? And recently we traded up from 3 to 2 to get a QB. And just to ask a dumb question but since I am nutty I guess I can ask you a nutty
question. And who are you to say that this swing is going to be any more successful? The Bears history with QBs is documented.
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Based on Bears' history then they should never ever draft another QB.
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How about the coaching of the players in front of the QB?
You mean the 7th round draft choice at LT. Or the center who went undrafted along with his college teammate at RG from Notre Dame. Or Rashad Coward who was a collegiate DE and converted to RT and was put in at RG. RT has been manned by FAs for the last 5 years.
The only top draft choices have been Whitehair and Daniels and Daniels missed most of the season.
Good coaching can make a difference until it can't.
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Sam gets drafted then brother dies -
https://www.11alive.com/article/sports/ncaa/longhorns/jake-ehlinger-found-dead-austin/269-5ac1b42d-4b4c-44b0-9554-5a84a980c60d
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So strange. Looks like an autopsy is needed to determine the cause of death.
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Might be a guy to look into. Wonder what a trade would cost us. Would think not much. Didn't address depth in the draft...
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2021/05/cardinals-give-jordan-hicks-permission-to-seek-trade
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I like Jordan Hicks - but do you give up a draft pick and pay him $6M and where does he play? Bears already have Roquan and Trevathan at ILB and just signed ex-Bear Christian Jones to back them up as our backups last year not so good.
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Honestly, you replace Trevathan with him, IMO.
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More expensive FA option for CB. Good to see we've at least checked in.
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2021/05/cb-steven-nelson-has-interest-from-14-teams-including-texans-bears-eagles-bengals-bills
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Honestly, you replace Trevathan with him, IMO.
Trevathan's cap hit makes it difficult for the Bears to cut or trade. Trevathan struggled early on but I noticed his play improved in the 2nd half.
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Kyle Long got hurt in OTA’s.
Go figure.
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Damn cheesy censors over at ProFootballTalk refused to post my comment on one of the stories. I even tried a few variations on the theme :(
The story was headlined "The awkward dance continues between the Packers, Aaron Rodgers"
And my comment was:
Of course its awkward ! They are dancing to the tune from "Deliverance", and when the music stops, someone is going to get screwed in the end....
Nothing wrong with that comment, right ? :D
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Watched Cubs/Cardinals yesterday since I don't get many games living out of state.
Man that was some bad baseball. I don't know if the cubs have any starters hitting over 240. They look at a fastball across the plate then swing at a breaking ball in the dirt. Cards tried to give them the game with three batters hit by pitch in two innings along with a walk and Cubs couldn't score.
They talk about trading their star players but they haven't hit well in 3 years. Team is a mess.
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I quit watching, better blood pressure because of it...
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I dont have cubitis so my blood pressure doesnt have that problem.
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Cubs batters want to hit the long ball every at bat. Don't take enough walks.
The losing doesn't bother me - I'm used to it. At least I have memories of 2016...
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FWIW if anything from last-night's Bill-Lions game is any outlier (they may not be) Trubisky looks like he's going to be relegated to Bills 3rd string. The announcers lied though- they said McDermot said they would let Trubisky air it out some- and mostly he handed it off or went 1 for 1 throwing......
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Panthers just traded Greg Little to the Dolphins for a 7th rounder next year.
I would have been all over that.
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Why do football coaches always wear jackets in hot weather?
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Andre Smith was released by the Ravens today.
RT mostly, but solid…
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Wow:
The Patriots haven’t only given their starting quarterback job to Mac Jones. They’ve gotten rid of Cam Newton altogether.
Newton has been released, according to Jim McBride of the Boston Globe.
That’s the biggest shock of all of today’s 53-man roster cutdown transactions. Jones and Newton were viewed as in close competition for the starting quarterback job, but everyone was expecting that if Jones won the job, Newton would be his backup.
Instead, Newton will now hit free agency, and he’ll likely have offers from other teams looking for a veteran quarterback — but he won’t have much time to learn a new offense as he heads to his third NFL team.
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This puts more pressure on Nagy to start Fields. Hopefully, Newton gets claimed quickly. I like having Foles as our #3, as one of the top QBs available to other teams if their starter goes down. Saturday's performance enhanced his value.
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He did throw a nice TD to Jesper
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I wonder if Newton is already on the phone with Houston. I may be pessimistic, but I don't see Watson ever playing again. He's probably headed for the joint. I was just thinking what an odd situation the Bears find themselves in, a superbowl mvp a third stringer. Keep ? Why not?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=961NDc_WZNk
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LOL
:D
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Well "Tom Terrific" wasnt too terrific in the airplane hanger in LA.
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Gruden out as HC in Vegas
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No one seen that coming did they? /sarcasm off...
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Kyle Fuller has been benched by Fangio.
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Gotta say letting Fuller walk is looking like right move. Guess Pace knows what he is doing.
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Sometimes. I like the aggressive stances he has taken with obviously mixed results but the cap situation is f*cked up now and in the future even if they shed some contracts. It would be unprecedented if Pace get to hire his 3rd coach but The Family + Ted really really loves him. If he gets launched along with Nagy at the end of the year, I have no problem promoting Mark Sadowski. The Bears scouting department is underrated with nice finds in the middle to late rounds over the years and I'd like to keep that department mostly intact.
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The family loving Ted, Pace and company is not a ringing endorsement, however :D
Remember when Arians was going to be HC with the Bears ? His stint in Arizona didn't go that well but at least the man knows offense. And now he has a SB ring for letting Brady do his thing and the Tampa Bay Bucs have more SB rings than the Bears. As an old school NFC Central fan, it still rubs me raw........
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Wonder if the Saints and cowboys would be interested in Foles or Dalton.
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NO. Those two are our albatross to wear.
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NO. Those two are our albatross to wear.
I'm not sure. I think that WInston got hurt yesterday?
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Winston may be out for the year as they’re speculating acl.
Seimion and Hill likely aren’t the answer.
That leaves Cam Newton . But I think Foles with their OL and Payton coaching might succeed.
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Winston may be out for the year as they’re speculating acl.
Seimion and Hill likely aren’t the answer.
That leaves Cam Newton . But I think Foles with their OL and Payton coaching might succeed.
They might as well also send Robinson over there also. Get some draft picks and rebuild this team. Hell with this season.
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Aaron Rodgers lied when he told the media he was vaccinated agains Covid-19.
He has now tested positive and must stay away from the team for a minimum of 10 days.
Take a peek at the possible future of the Peckers on Sunday.
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Aaron Rodgers lied when he told the media he was vaccinated agains Covid-19.
He has now tested positive and must stay away from the team for a minimum of 10 days.
Take a peek at the possible future of the Peckers on Sunday.
Wonder if he'll be able to keep his stupid State Farm commercial gig?
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The jets now have a 3rd stringer and a practice squad 4th stringer fall out of the bus and throw for well over 800 yards and 7 touchdowns the last week and a half. And then I look at the constipated Bears offense...and I just get really annoyed.
BTW, the jets OC is the younger brother of the Packers HC and worked directly under kid Shanny at ATL and SF...
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Ah but is he a genius???? Nagy is for sure, just ask him.
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The jets now have a 3rd stringer and a practice squad 4th stringer fall out of the bus and throw for well over 800 yards and 7 touchdowns the last week and a half. And then I look at the constipated Bears offense...and I just get really annoyed.
BTW, the jets OC is the younger brother of the Packers HC and worked directly under kid Shanny at ATL and SF...
ya know, last night I was thinking the same thing!!
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Another cluster f of a game so far. Sieve defense, special teams lost, players don’t know where to line up halfway into the season.
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Its amazing how many teams have been up and down this year. I've said for a long time, the betting on professional football games is a fool's errand. One game and a team looks like world beaters and the next game against an inferior team, they get bet and sometimes beaten badly.
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With all the "sure things" where heavy favorites that failed this year and betting more prevalent than ever, it kind of makes you wonder....
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Man looks like La Fleur is as big a douchbag (he looks it for sure) as their QB:
https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2021/11/22/packers-coach-matt-lafleur-wants-league-clarification-on-two-calls-in-loss-to-vikings/
go down to Allens response. I'd have sad out loud at the time La Fleur made his comment "Or what ?"....
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The Packers are the only team we have played this season that I see the center, jerking his head down, and then back up. If that is allowed in the rules, it should be changed. It looks like a clear way to attempt to draw off the defense with pre snap movement.
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The Packers are the only team we have played this season that I see the center, jerking his head down, and then back up. If that is allowed in the rules, it should be changed. It looks like a clear way to attempt to draw off the defense with pre snap movement.
Absolutely. The Packers and the Patriots are probably the most sneaky teams in the NFL when it comes to crap like that.
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Watching the Bucs/Indy game today. Indy kicking ass, going up ten. Two unbelieveably bad calls by the refs and, of course, the Bucs came down the field and scored to cut the lead to 3. They do the same **** all of the time. Any opponent to the Bucs with Brady and the Packers with Rodgers, has to play way above their head to win against those two teams with prima donna quarterbacks.
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Tom Brady is likely the greatest player to ever don a NFL uniform, hes far far far from a prima donna.
You want to go blame the NFL for the rules go right ahead. but you look like a fool calling out Brady.
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Hershey Stafford chokes in Green Bay again.
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Tom Brady is likely the greatest player to ever don a NFL uniform, hes far far far from a prima donna.
You want to go blame the NFL for the rules go right ahead. but you look like a fool calling out Brady.
He is a prima donna while being a great great quarterback. But he and whoever he plays for get many many calls that the other teams do not get. If you watched that Colts game with the Bucs today and are honest about it, Brady and his receivers got a lot of big calls by the officials that helped them greatly to win that game. And the greatest football player to ever don an NFL uniform was Dick Butkus.
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He is a prima donna while being a great great quarterback. But he and whoever he plays for get many many calls that the other teams do not get. If you watched that Colts game with the Bucs today and are honest about it, Brady and his receivers got a lot of big calls by the officials that helped them greatly to win that game. And the greatest football player to ever don an NFL uniform was Dick Butkus.
That is hilarious. Butkus had 5 first team all pro, 3 second and 8 pro bowls. No MVP. 2 time defensive player of the year. only played in 119 total games.
Butkus is not even the greatest defensive player of all time... much less the best player in the NFL ever...
Brady - played in 312 games.
7× Super Bowl champion (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLIX, LI, LIII, LV)
5× Super Bowl MVP (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XLIX, LI, LV)
3× NFL Most Valuable Player (2007, 2010, 2017)
2× NFL Offensive Player of the Year (2007, 2010)
NFL Comeback Player of the Year (2009)
3× First-team All-Pro (2007, 2010, 2017)
2× Second-team All-Pro (2005, 2016)
14× Pro Bowl (2001, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2009–2018)
NFL 2000s All-Decade Team
Unanimous NFL 2010s All-Decade Team
Unanimous NFL 100th Anniversary All-Time Team
Bert Bell Award (2007)
NFL records
Most career wins
Most career touchdown passes
Most career passing yards
Most career passing attempts
Longest touchdown pass: 99 yards (tied)
Best touchdown to interception ratio in a season: 28:2
You are dilusional.
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Does longevity mean greatness? Koufax retired at 30. Butkus also had a short career, but Jerry Kramer said he was the only defensive player Lombardi altered his offense to combat.
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Pretty hard to compare quarterback with defensive players.
The “best player” is strictly a matter of opinion in a team game.
But if I could go back in time to see one player in a game it would be Butkus.
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In today's game QB is the most important position on the field bar none.
If you have a great one you will be a contender every year. Brady, Manning, Brees and Rodgers have proven that.
No doubt you have to build around them but with the passing rules as they are the QB is the be all and end all deciding if your team has a chance.
In his day Butkus was one of the greatest of all time.
I still believe the all around best football player of all time was Walter Payton.
He was not the best the best runner that would be Jim Brown.
When the rules have changed so much it is hard to compare players from different eras.
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I take Lawrence Taylor over Butkus any day of the week.
The lack of longitivity prevents him from aging poorly. Which increases his perceived value.
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That is hilarious. Butkus had 5 first team all pro, 3 second and 8 pro bowls. No MVP. 2 time defensive player of the year. only played in 119 total games.
Butkus is not even the greatest defensive player of all time... much less the best player in the NFL ever...
Brady - played in 312 games.
7× Super Bowl champion (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLIX, LI, LIII, LV)
5× Super Bowl MVP (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XLIX, LI, LV)
3× NFL Most Valuable Player (2007, 2010, 2017)
2× NFL Offensive Player of the Year (2007, 2010)
NFL Comeback Player of the Year (2009)
3× First-team All-Pro (2007, 2010, 2017)
2× Second-team All-Pro (2005, 2016)
14× Pro Bowl (2001, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2009–2018)
NFL 2000s All-Decade Team
Unanimous NFL 2010s All-Decade Team
Unanimous NFL 100th Anniversary All-Time Team
Bert Bell Award (2007)
NFL records
Most career wins
Most career touchdown passes
Most career passing yards
Most career passing attempts
Longest touchdown pass: 99 yards (tied)
Best touchdown to interception ratio in a season: 28:2
You are dilusional.
Wowie. I must have stuck a nerve about Tom Brady, huh? No player in NFL history dominated the field of play like Dick Butkus. Quarterbacks get all of the attention and accolades but even the best quarterback are nothing with all of the protection that they get and the quality of the receivers and running backs around them. And, yeah, pretty much all of them are prima donnas and get further protection form the referees and the league.
You are entitled to your opinion but so am I. I think that Dick Butkus was the great player in NFL history. His knee got hurt and the stupid Bear's had him operated on my an incompetent fool of a doctor who wrecked his career. WIth today's surgical techniques, his great career would have lasted another 5-6 years. Same thing could be said about another all-time great player, Sayers. Two terrific players who played on lousy teams and lousy quarterbacks but dominated the league with their amazing ability.
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I take Lawrence Taylor over Butkus any day of the week.
The lack of longitivity prevents him from aging poorly. Which increases his perceived value.
That is an interesting take. "perceived value", huh? There was a reason why Butkus career was cut short. His knee surgery was BOTCHED. In fact, he was lucky to be able to walk after that surgery. The surgeon actually left gauze around the knee and they closed the knee up and a massive infection occurred. WIth a proper surgery, Butkus would have had another 5-6 good years. He could do anything on the football field and was a great athlete. As for Lawrence Taylor, he was mainly a great pass rusher but could not do all of the things that Butkus was asked to do. And no one in the history of football could hit as hard as Dick Butkus.
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Pretty hard to compare quarterback with defensive players.
The “best player” is strictly a matter of opinion in a team game.
But if I could go back in time to see one player in a game it would be Butkus.
Of course, you are right. I just brought it up because of how much is said about the "greatness" of quarterbacks in the NFL. And when someone calls a quarterback the best player of all time, I have to argue a bit about it. I grew up in Chicago on the south side and knew Butkus "a little" through mutual friends. I had friends who played against him in high school as well as with him at CVS. HE was a MONSTER in high school let me tell you. He player full back in the old tee formation and also center sometimes and was all over the field defensively. So I go back a long way with knowing a bit about him.
In fact, my boss at a steel mill where I worked was Butkus' roommate at Illinois and was the best man at his wedding.
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I would not have wanted to play against him in high school.
I read his old book and he told a story about a loss and the other team was doing kneel down to end the game.
Butkus called all 3 time outs so he could hit the center 3 more times.
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I would not have wanted to play against him in high school.
I read his old book and he told a story about a loss and the other team was doing kneel down to end the game.
Butkus called all 3 time outs so he could hit the center 3 more times.
CVS didn't lose many games when he was there. I went to a Catholic high school and there was no league interplay until the city championship game. But they did have what they called "controlled scrimmages" which meant that there were no kick-offs or punts. So basically your offense scrimmaged against their defense and vice versa. Butkus was a year older than I was and a junior when our high school scrimmaged CVS. A good buddy of mine was a sophomore DB and got in the game. CVS ran a play and a HOLE opened up and the only guy between the end zone was my buddy, Rich. Rich probably weighed maybe 150# at best and he saw Butkus coming right at him. Butkus was not going to avoid anyone and probably weighed about 235# or so at the time. As Rich came up, discretion got the better part of valor and fell down and Butkus tripped over him. You could see the cleat marks on his jersey ;D ;D
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I would not have wanted to play against him in high school.
I read his old book and he told a story about a loss and the other team was doing kneel down to end the game.
Butkus called all 3 time outs so he could hit the center 3 more times.
Centers hated Butkus. Mick Tinglehoff of the Vikings told the story about how Butkus would work up a huge loogey and spit all over the football. :-[ :-[
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I heard Art Donovan tell a story one time about playing in Chicago against Butkus. The Colts got their asses kicked and after the game while the team bus was leaving the stadium it got hit by another car and suddenly stopped. One of the other Offensive Players looked around stunned and just said... Butkus...
If you ever heard Art Donovan tell a story it was funny as hell. I wish I could find that video someone on the net.
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There was a good story that Ed Obradovich used to tell about taking on blocks and a certain defensive coach (can't recall who) would rag on him because Butkis would make a play and he was one the ground. He was on the ground because he took down 2 linemen and was looking out his earhole.... Used to tell it back when him and Doug Buffone hosted one of the post game shows.... What a great duo they were....
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I heard Art Donovan tell a story one time about playing in Chicago against Butkus. The Colts got their asses kicked and after the game while the team bus was leaving the stadium it got hit by another car and suddenly stopped. One of the other Offensive Players looked around stunned and just said... Butkus...
If you ever heard Art Donovan tell a story it was funny as hell. I wish I could find that video someone on the net.
I worked at a south side steel mill after I got back from Nam and a guy in my department one night went to the lounge at the old Thunderbird Bird lanes on the South Side and a fight broke out. Now this guy played tight end at Northern Illinois University and was about 6'3" and 220#. Big guy. He came to work with cuts all over his face. He said that when the fight broke out he got shoved and hit a guy right in the jaw with his best punch. Bob said he knew that he was in trouble when the punch had no effect on the guy. IT WAS BUTKUS. The next thing he knew the guy picked him up and threw him head first through a partition.
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For anyone who thinks Matt Jones is the best rookie quarterback, with 7 minutes to go in the game he’s attempted 2 passes. Coaches maybe don’t trust him as much as you think?
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Its Belichek being himself. Whatever the best chance to win he does that. Unlike the "I didn't sign up to run the T formation" genius the Bears have. And Les Frazier could not get his guys up enough to tackle on first contact (or second or third a lot of times). Why pass a lot when you don't have to. Its not like he has a cannon of an arm like Allen does so why risk it.
But its a testament to what coaching can do. I think Jones is a good player but in a perfect situation.
It kind of felt like that Giants/Patriots game years ago where they met near the end of the year and it was a great game the Patriots won (my sister in law watched the game with me and she is not a football fan and even she was entertained). Then they later met in the SB and the Giants won. Bills/Pats cannot meet in the SB (maybe Championship game ?)....
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I think the 60 mph wind gusts had more to do with the not passing than anything else. Hell even the announcers were getting blown out of their seats in the pregame show.
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For anyone who thinks Matt Jones is the best rookie quarterback, with 7 minutes to go in the game he’s attempted 2 passes. Coaches maybe don’t trust him as much as you think?
That was a remarkable game. You have to hand it to the Pats how they won that ball game. It was Lombardiesque.
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Bills had the ball in the red zone with 2:30 or so - down only 4
They need a RB - or a better O-line
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Imagine an NFL team thinking that trading for Matthew F. Stafford was a good idea.
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Imagine an NFL team thinking that trading for Matthew F. Stafford was a good idea.
Stafford is having a good year. Only Brady has better numbers. That trade got the Rams a huge upgrade at QB.
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Stafford is having a good year. Only Brady has better numbers. That trade got the Rams a huge upgrade at QB.
I think that Stafford is a good quarterback but not a huge upgrade and not worth what they gave up to get him. The Rams are not an elite team with or without him.
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I think that Stafford is a good quarterback but not a huge upgrade and not worth what they gave up to get him. The Rams are not an elite team with or without him.
So what were the Rams supposed to do with Goff? Just wait until he got better? In the NFL you have small windows of years when you have elite talent. They'll be in the mix when its playoff time - we'll see what happens.
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So what were the Rams supposed to do with Goff? Just wait until he got better? In the NFL you have small windows of years when you have elite talent. They'll be in the mix when its playoff time - we'll see what happens.
I don't think that the Rams are better with Stafford is all. You may disagree but I just don't but that Stafford is anykind of difference maker with the Rams. HE's never won a big game and the Rams are not an elite team with or without him. The Rams win with their defense primarily and are trying to give Stafford more weapons on offense but I doubt if those weapons are going to be anything special. The bottom line is that the Rams are just another good but not elite team. I think that the Lions got the better end of that deal with the draft picks that they picked up.
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Matthew F. Stafford > Jared F. Goff
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I don't think that the Rams are better with Stafford is all. You may disagree but I just don't but that Stafford is anykind of difference maker with the Rams. HE's never won a big game and the Rams are not an elite team with or without him. The Rams win with their defense primarily and are trying to give Stafford more weapons on offense but I doubt if those weapons are going to be anything special. The bottom line is that the Rams are just another good but not elite team. I think that the Lions got the better end of that deal with the draft picks that they picked up.
Stafford has been on the Lions - so not too many chances at big games. Did you see him beat the team with the NFL's best record last Monday...on their home field?
Let's take a look at the numbers. Rams 3rd in NFL in passing offense - 7th in total offense. 5th in scoring offense. Not too bad for a team winning on defense.
As for Stafford, this year 108.4 passing rating. 33 TD 9 INTs. That rating is just .4 behind Aaron Rodgers.
My point is the Rams had to make a move to get better on offense - they did that. Whether its enough to get them deep into the playoffs - we'll see.
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Matthew F. Stafford > Jared F. Goff
Marginally better. But not worth the lost draft picks and Goff is much younger.
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Stafford has been on the Lions - so not too many chances at big games. Did you see him beat the team with the NFL's best record last Monday...on their home field?
Let's take a look at the numbers. Rams 3rd in NFL in passing offense - 7th in total offense. 5th in scoring offense. Not too bad for a team winning on defense.
As for Stafford, this year 108.4 passing rating. 33 TD 9 INTs. That rating is just .4 behind Aaron Rodgers.
My point is the Rams had to make a move to get better on offense - they did that. Whether its enough to get them deep into the playoffs - we'll see.
We will just agree to disagree then about Stafford and Goff. The Lions this year are one of the two worst teams in the NFL. No quarterback could make them into a winner.
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Stafford isnt elite, but he's just under that group. Had he been drafted by a good organization, he's a guy who might have had a chance at a HOF career.
Goff is not an NFL level QB on a trash contract. The deal was two firsts for Stafford and one first to take Goff's contract.
Rams are going to be my team once the playoffs start. Aaron Donald has been my favorite non-bear for years and I'd like to see the Rams FO be successful with their really aggressive trading tendencies.
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Rams unloaded Goff's terrible contract, that was a factor in the deal.
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Rams unloaded Goff's terrible contract, that was a factor in the deal.
They also gave up two 1st round picks and a 3rd round pick. Also, what was the difference between the quarterback's contract.
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I think that Stafford is a good quarterback but not a huge upgrade and not worth what they gave up to get him. The Rams are not an elite team with or without him.
Dude, do you just go on the internet to make clown comments? is that like your thing? go to new forums and make idiotic comments that seem honest?
I'm at a loss to see a world where Stafford is not currently a top 5 QB in the NFL... that makes him a top 5 QB in the world... there are like 100 QB better then Goff.
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Dude, do you just go on the internet to make clown comments? is that like your thing? go to new forums and make idiotic comments that seem honest?
I'm at a loss to see a world where Stafford is not currently a top 5 QB in the NFL... that makes him a top 5 QB in the world... there are like 100 QB better then Goff.
"Dude"? What the hell lingo have you gone back to? Gee, Man. That's really "RAD".... "TOTALLY" ???
I said what I said. Stafford is a good NFL quarterback. I said that right now he is a better quarterback than Goff. But he is not an "elite" quarterback and never was. Now they put him on as quarterback on a team with a very good defense and an offensive line that can get him time to throw. He hasn't won crap yet as a quarterback. If he is a top 5 quarterback in the NFL he is tied for 5th with maybe 2-3 others.
As for the 100 better QBs better than Goff, I'd say that silly you is exaggerating just a smidge :o :o
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"One of the primary reasons Goff is coming to Detroit is because the Lions were willing to take on his contract. The Rams signed Goff to a four-year contract extension worth $134 million prior to the 2019 NFL season, and the economic burden it placed on the team forced Los Angeles to include extra compensation for the Lions to absorb some of the financial obligation."
https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2021/02/20/lions-jared-goff-contract-restructure-salary/
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Meyer finally launched. A big no from me on the next bears coach coming from college football. What a horror show that's been
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I thought the same about Kingsbury, but he turned out OK…
Hiring coaches is as big a crapshoot as the MLB draft.
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What a great game between the Chiefs and Chargers with the Chiefs winning in OT after tying it with a minute left. Talk about two great young franchise quarterbacks in that game. Travis Kelce with 190+ yards receiving. 8) 8)
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Those four people in the booth after the Chargers/Chiefs game were about the worst I have ever seen. After a great game you'd think that they'd have a lot of good stuff to talk about, but they managed to mangle it up. The only guy I knew was Michael Irvin and he is bad but the other three were just as bad.
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That game felt like a heavyweight fight. Scary injury though.....
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The Chargers game is a cautionary tale of the overuse of analytics to decide football plays on the field. Football is a lot about momentum as much Xs and Os, Jiimies and Joes. One thing a veteran HC can do is sense the momentum of the moment and it overrides the odds any analytics "guru" says is the better call. That's something it seems Bill Belichek does well- but he's had the experience to do so). We'll see if Staley can learn this lesson and apply forward....
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That game felt like a heavyweight fight. Scary injury though.....
KC is my second favorite NFL team since my relatives of my mom's side are from KC. SO I watch a lot of their games. You are right about that game being a real tough fight between two teams with great young quarterbacks and offenses. The other part of the game that I really enjoyed was that the referees LET THEM PLAY instead of calling a lot of penalties for small stuff. TO me, that is the way officiating in the NFL should be. The worst part, normally of NFL games is when the officials become the game. IT is true in any sport, I think.
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Yeah its a shame that the refs seem too inconsistent a lot of the time- you never know what you're going to get. That's why officiating teams should be employed (full time). Then you can scout the officials and get a feel for what they seem to call a lot. Oh, and an eye in the sky to correct totally egregious errors hundreds of thousands of people see on tv should be implemented and give them cause to complain in the first place. It wouldn't be perfect but it would be a damn sight better (unless they half-ass it like the did they tried to implement instant replay the 1st time back in the 80s).....
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Yeah its a shame that the refs seem too inconsistent a lot of the time- you never know what you're going to get. That's why officiating teams should be employed (full time). Then you can scout the officials and get a feel for what they seem to call a lot. Oh, and an eye in the sky to correct totally egregious errors hundreds of thousands of people see on tv should be implemented and give them cause to complain in the first place. It wouldn't be perfect but it would be a damn sight better (unless they half-ass it like the did they tried to implement instant replay the 1st time back in the 80s).....
You make good points. One of the problems that there is so much hand checking that happens between the receiver and the dbs that occur on every play when the ball is in the air. I think that they should quit calling those things entirely. I can see a penalty called if a receiver gets knocked down or off stride or holds a guy's jersey or pads, but to me, when the ball is in the air, its anyone's ball, offense or defense. LEt em fight for it. Let them make the defender, though, look for the ball and not just faceguard the offensive player like sometimes happens.
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I agree. Let them hand fight but if you grab a handful of jersey, bear hug them or hit em in the head and such its a penalty....
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Does anyone else think NFL broadcasts use recorded fan cheering?
When the Packers score against Baltimore there’s a loud fan cheering sound but I doubt there’s enough Packer fans there to be heard.
I’ve noticed the same in other games.
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Wonder how many more years after decades already will the Bears be worth a darn again. Watching the Packers game and just totally envious that they've had two HOF QBs in a row. They're there, every frigging year. Remember back in the Favre days the same crap and its decades now of futility with this team. I don't believe they'll ever get it, not in the rest of our lifetimes. They're in a Cubs groove....100 yrs or better. I've got to find a better team....really fed up with all of it.
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I turned off the Packers game when the referees stepped in and made sure of the outcome of the very close game. The 3rd Packer TD was bogus with a pass interference call that the announcers couldn't believe either setting it all up. Then there was a nonsense call for a lineman moving on a 4th and a foot call that resulted in a field goal instead of a chance for a touchdown.
It is so blatantly obvious that referees fix the outcome of games that they aren't even trying not to make it obvious.
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Wah, wah little boi.
If you can’t handle the NFL stop watching.
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Watching the Baltimore/GB game really made me realize how good coaching makes for enjoyable football. Been only watching the Bears on Sundays which has skewed my enjoyment of football. To watch two teams that have decent play calling, tackling, blocking, etc was so refreshing.
Man how Nagy kept his job from last year to this year, I will never understand.
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I turned it off to after that "roughing" the passer call too. Seen to much of that kind of "officiating" lately. NFL has a problem but like the Bears will not do anything about it that will make it better....
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Even the announcers were flabbergasted by that roughing call…
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The refs are nfl employees now, which i thought was a mistake, with all the betting going on you gotta wonder, there's no consistency and too damn many rules.
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Does anyone else think NFL broadcasts use recorded fan cheering?
When the Packers score against Baltimore there’s a loud fan cheering sound but I doubt there’s enough Packer fans there to be heard.
I’ve noticed the same in other games.
You know, I think that you're right. It seems strange that you sometimes hear this cheering when a visiting team scores and look at the crowd being 90+% fans of the home team.
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R.I.P. JOHN MADDON !!
The ONLY broadcaster to pick the 1980 Oakland Raiders to defeat the Philly Eagles in the SuperBowl !
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Sad day. The Madden documentary aired on Xmas day and it felt like kind of like a ulegy. Maybe its just my age talking but the more I think about the NFL and its current state, it really does feel like a "golden age" of football when I think back to those days of the early 80s (of course I was young and off to college and on my own). Nostalgia, indeed.....
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Yeah the good ol' days when you watch Bears/Packers, you EXPECTED the Bears to win.
RIP Jeff Dickerson as well...
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R.I.P. JOHN MADDON !!
The ONLY broadcaster to pick the 1980 Oakland Raiders to defeat the Philly Eagles in the SuperBowl !
Madden was a very good coach and announcer. He also was a guy who I thought you could have a beer with and he'd be just a good ordinary guy. In those days, football was not as politicized and polished as today. It was fun to watch and fun to watch the Steve sabal and company productions of it. Listening and watching the broadcasts and the illiterate jerks in some of the broadcast teams really makes me miss guys like Madden and Pat Summerall.
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Madden and Summerall. You could tell Summerall was smashed half the time...
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I still remember MADDON'S quote about Da Raiduh's /Eagles SuperBowl to this day,
Raiduh's 9-7 Wildcard ... Eagles the flat out most powerful team in the NFL that year ...
EVERYBODY {me included} said the Eagles would romp all over Oakland.
Maddon said :
"I think Da Raiduhs are peaking at the right time."
Truer words ever spoken by an expert !
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibDc0nX5uqw
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Listening and watching the broadcasts and the illiterate jerks in some of the broadcast teams really makes me miss guys like Madden and Pat Summerall.
My wife was going nuts listening to Aqib Talib do the last Bears game.
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Pat Summeral was the perfect complement to Madden. He'd stand back and let John do his thing, then add his comment or throw something back to Madden to elaborate on. Kind of like the straight man/funny man routine. They are definitely one of the greatest broadcast duos of all time....
Yeah. Dat Aqib Talib. He do talk much bout dem playuhs but don't say much.... The deprecation of the public spoken word is a shame to hear. Even as short as 10 years ago he never would have been able to get on air on a major network broadcast speaking that badly.....
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I needed my Ebonics dictionary to understand some of the stuff Talib was saying. I mean come on man.....
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My wife was going nuts listening to Aqib Talib do the last Bears game.
I was also. I understand the "need" to bring in minority broadcasters, but come-on, these guys do need to be able to talk coherently.
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I wish WBBM didn’t block their game broadcast to out of area customers.
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I wish WBBM didn’t block their game broadcast to out of area customers.
I always get it on the internet..
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Our local FM station covers it.
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I always get it on the internet..
Where? Website?
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College bowl games get ridiculous with the best players opting out
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Funny read (not just about the Bears)
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/loser-league/2021/playing-out-stretch-giants-and-lions
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So who are we rooting for today to keep the Packers from home field advantage?
I think Dallas is one.
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Where? Website?
https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780
I'm listening right now. Just go to the WBBM site and hit listen. You need to do it from a laptop. Not sure if I was able to do it from my phone. Right now I have a VPN set, but I don't think that's necessary..
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https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780
I'm listening right now. Just go to the WBBM site and hit listen. You need to do it from a laptop. Not sure if I was able to do it from my phone. Right now I have a VPN set, but I don't think that's necessary..
Thanks I’ve been trying Audacy from my phone and it’s blocked.
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Yep, I think I remember trying the same thing.
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Wow, in the middle of the game Antonio Brown takes off his pads and leaves the field.
Arians said he’s no longer with the team.
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He was benched the play before his tantrum.
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The score reports he was told to go into the game and he refused twice so Arians told him to leave.
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Brown had about 2 goods years at Pitt and let **** go to his head.
Time to be done with him.
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Vikings without COVID boy at Lambeau. Find something else to watch tonight.
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Vikings were not going to win with him.
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**** off, cumeater.
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Dude, if your have issues with your sexuality take it to tinder.
As for your wish that the 7-8 Vikings had a chance....you are a **** bear fan.
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Go be a cum dump as you you were born to be.
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You truly are the most despicable human being that has ever been born. Die soon.
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No offense to you personally.
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Come on Sharpiejeffh
Don't be all butthurt. You just watched an entire season of bear football while being latently gay.
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Sharpiejeffh?
Negro, please.
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Damn, you're not even trying to be witty or funny.
Just a racial perv for you...
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Do humanity a favor and rot stinking in the ground.
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Damn, you're not even trying to be witty or funny.
Just a racial perv for you...
Says the only person who has defended a child rapist on this board.
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Posts the guy who supports Gym Jordan and his no reporting of years of sexual assault plus that rep. matt gaetz guy from florida.
Has the former 1-term president resolved any of his 20+ cases of sexual misconduct?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spXYG_9aK54
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unlike Biden no one has accused Jordan or Gaetz.
try again.
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Jordan was accused of trying to cover up sexual abuse at OSU in February by another former wrestler, team captain Adam DiSabato. DiSabato told the Ohio legislature that he received a desperate call from Jordan, who essentially begged DiSabato to lie to help cover up wrongdoing.
so.....
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https://www.yahoo.com/now/six-osu-wrestlers-say-rep-jim-jordan-knew-about-doctors-sexual-abuse-174350028.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFz6qO5vp0Wheq2X4bnSS1KHfGMHwy68M-NO45EFsYqG5_ljo6L-dxSu3s_jXMWSoU8nSwQf5pxeFChvS4lQRG2CZhrnC9_4hD7AbySUHFlm65lvqUJ2tsUPkNfTmEKhvEznSIPiKrL8BUWxenxU8C-LjubhjWimeoMZDFNse3w8
So...
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https://www.si.com/more-sports/2020/02/12/jim-jordan-accused-cover-up-sexual-abuse-ohio-state
Or mat gaetz...
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/matt-gaetz-joel-greenberg-letter-sex-underage-girl-1163449/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/14/matt-gaetz-scandal-joel-greenberg-sex-trafficking
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Dibasato said Jordan called him telling him his brother was wrong. That the team Dr was known to be weird is not the same as alleging **** cover ups which no one claims.
Quite different from an accusation of digital **** by old Joe.
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Sharpiebill
I can read the articles which state what Gym called about and it's not what you claim.
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a woman has accused Biden of ****.
No one has accused Jordan or Gaetz of any sexual misbehavior.
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And Tara Reade's accusation looks as foolish as you continually pushing it.
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BEARRSSE need to sign Antonio Brown ASAP for talent and publicity. :)
We need the press negative or positive.
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Sorry Jackie. NO, NO, NO. That clown cooked his own goose. IMHO he is finished in the NFL.
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The best comment I read today was (paraphrase)
"We should feel sorry for Seahawks fans because for the 2nd week in a row they have to try to understand what Aqib Talib is saying."
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Seattle's fans aren't as stupid as rural maga fuckup bear fans, so they probably don't have a problem with it.
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Sorry Jackie. NO, NO, NO. That clown cooked his own goose. IMHO he is finished in the NFL.
I wouldn't be surprised if teh Rams sign him. They don't give a crap about the character of teh a-holes that they sign.
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Seattle's fans aren't as stupid as rural maga fuckup bear fans, so they probably don't have a problem with it.
??? ???
What does politics or anyone else's level of intelligence have to do with his inability to speak the English language properly?
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Awww, jonbillSharpie
Did you get butthurt again?
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jonbillSharpie
I don't need to post anything else..
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JJ,
Harbaugh to the Raiders, maybe
Hard to believe an organization that offered Olin a job for $15 an hour would be outbidding Davis
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Charles Leno got a three year extension from WFT. Over 30 million.
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Fangio fired.
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Fangio is not head coaching material. He should know by now that his claim to fame is defense.. No shame in that.
Shame is that the Bears aren't in a position to bring Fangio back as D coordinator ..
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Why not?
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Usually you hire the head coach first.
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Fangio might take some time picking his next team.
He liked Chicago so maybe there’s a chance.
Our DB’s would play better under his coaching.
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Pittsburgh Steelers fans had to change undies after last nights game....
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Steeler fans are gonna miss big Ben - after bad-mouthing him all these years
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Packers fans got a glimpse of their future yesterday as well.
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You should ask Oddo how he liked that
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Sure jonbillSharpie
What was the record of Justin Fields?
2-8.
The record of the others?
4-3.
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Otto what happens if the packers win the SB and rodgers retires like elway ?
Will you be happy or sad ?
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Not a packers fan, but one should be happy. 1 super bowl win is more then we've had in the last 3 decades. I also have far more faith in GB to put the right GM/Coach in place then our bears.
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I see some TV media blaming McCarthy for the Cowboys gaff at the end.
I say any NFL player especially a quarterback should know running the ball with a few seconds left ears up time and an official needs to set the ball before your play.
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And the fans throwing trash at the refs was classy
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There were things to take issue with the refs. The last play was not one of those.....
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The Cowboys weren't going anywhere, but that last play was a real head scratcher..
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Cowboys had the talent to beat anybody. Just not the 49ers on Sunday - 49ers are on a roll.
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I think, next up for SF is a date against the Pack in Lamblow. They wont be used to that kind of weather
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Dallas
You have to face facts...Dac's record in the playoffs is horrible and he was bad again yesterday.
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The Cowboys beat up the crappy teams, but struggled against the better teams. Prescott seams to fold under pressure..
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Well both west coast teams have mountains to climb next week, the Niners travel to Green Bay and a date with Erin and Stafford gets the task of beating legend Tom Terrific.
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Cowboys had the talent to beat anybody. Just not the 49ers on Sunday - 49ers are on a roll.
Every year just about, so many people talk about the Boyz having so much talent, yet they haven't delivered. I just think it is wishful thinking to back in the so-called GOOD OLD DAYS. As for the 9ers, I don't see them advancing either.
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Not a packers fan, but one should be happy. 1 super bowl win is more then we've had in the last 3 decades. I also have far more faith in GB to put the right GM/Coach in place then our bears.
Gotta agree. The record speaks for itself.
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49ers were coming of a victory against the Rams in LA. If Bosa and Warner are good to go they will give the Packers a game.
Dak Prescott did not have a great game. But as I recall Dallas defense gave up 4 straight scoring drives against the 49ers. Dallas running backs didn't even get 50 yards rushing. 49ers defense was solid and put pressure on Dak all day (5 sacks). Plus the pre-snap penalties hurt the Cowboys.
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Frisco has this zany do everything guy named deebo. We need one of those.
Actually ... gimme two!
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Apart from Deebo's speed, he is strong and stoutly built. Quite a combination. Would love 1... 2
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Sounds like Cordarrelle Patterson…
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49ers were coming of a victory against the Rams in LA. If Bosa and Warner are good to go they will give the Packers a game.
Dak Prescott did not have a great game. But as I recall Dallas defense gave up 4 straight scoring drives against the 49ers. Dallas running backs didn't even get 50 yards rushing. 49ers defense was solid and put pressure on Dak all day (5 sacks). Plus the pre-snap penalties hurt the Cowboys.
I actually felt sorry for Jerry Jones in this game. Like him or not, he is one of the few owners of professional teams who has actually played the game at a high level. But in that game last week-end, the Cowboys made so many stupid mistakes it was incredible. Jones almost has to fire most of his coaching staff I think if not all. Schemes, injuries, bad luck, etc. all cost you ball games, but idiotic mistakes and unforced errors like the Boys did in that game are unforgivable to me. And that in a large part is COACHING.
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Seems like the guys the Cowboys spent all the money on aren’t the ones making plays.
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I actually felt sorry for Jerry Jones in this game. Like him or not, he is one of the few owners of professional teams who has actually played the game at a high level. But in that game last week-end, the Cowboys made so many stupid mistakes it was incredible. Jones almost has to fire most of his coaching staff I think if not all. Schemes, injuries, bad luck, etc. all cost you ball games, but idiotic mistakes and unforced errors like the Boys did in that game are unforgivable to me. And that in a large part is COACHING.
And both of the Cowboys assistant coaches have been talked about as candidates for new coaching jobs. McCarthy is on the hot seat.
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McCarthy doesn't have Rodgers now.. Dak not even close..
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McCarthy doesn't have Rodgers now.. Dak not even close..
No he isn't. But, to me, it isn't really that as much as the lack of discipline that was evident in a play-off game. Good coaches don't have that happen like that.
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Robbie Gould, baby!
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I'm so happy.
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Leave it to Frisco to get done what we cant ...
HOWEVER ...
Ex BEARRSE Robbie Gould puts the knife in the heart ...
while exclaiming : HEY GREEN BAY I STILL OWN YOU !!
Never run your mouth until you hold the Super Bowl trophy aloft Aaron Rodgers.
Anybody think he will be in Denver next year or retire?
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I don't think he retires. I think a deal was made that if he played this year they would let him leave. Don't forget he was wanting a trade during the offseason.
It is going to be an ugly offseason for the Packers.
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Somebody explain to me why DAA BEARRSE cant do what Frisco does.
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I put that loss on the Packers coach. He went to conservative on offense.
If he had let Rodgers do his thing they could have put it away in the first half.
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I think Rogers enjoys the attention and winning games too much to retire.
The question is whether or not it’s with the packers.
The only NFC championship he’s won was against Caleb Hanie.
He’s going to consider his legacy is so tarnished that playing for anyone else may be best.
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I told you that the 49ers are on a roll. They are an almost complete team with the exception at QB which makes their wins even more impressive.
Deebo Samuels is something special.
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Their QB sucks. Samuels is their whole offense. Their D and ST are solid.
They remind me of the Bears the year they went to the SB and lost.
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Saints head coach Sean Payton has not committed to returning to New Orleans for 2022 NFL season (https://www.nfl.com/news/saints-head-coach-sean-payton-has-not-committed-to-returning-to-new-orleans-for-)
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Rodgers will go to San Francisco, watch.
I am developing a strong dislike for Lafluer and the waving of his arms to get them to get the crowd louder. You're the head coach, not lead cheerleader.
Fortunately, I won't have to watch it anymore this season.
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It was a beautiful day yesterday, couldnt have asked for a better outcome. Love the whining about possibly retiring or playing elsewhere. AND we shouldnt have to see Oddo for a while. Sweet.
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At least LeFleur can use the time off to work on manscaping his eyebrows more....
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He’s going to consider his legacy is so tarnished that playing for anyone else may be best.
The superbowl win here would have been icing on a long career. This loss is going to make Erin move. He like Brady's move to Tampa cements his greatness. Erin needs a move and a Superbowl win behind his name
before he hangs the cleats up
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He likes the drama. Its an ego stroke. He'll string everyone along until the last minute. As an aside, my voice to text this year has been spelling "arrogance" Rodgers whenever I say Aaron Rodgers. Coincidence ? I don't think so....
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Bucs getting their as$es handed to 'em.. Just say no to Todd Bowles
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Bucs even with Brady are having the same problem we’ve seen with the Bears for years.
Can’t protect the whole so try for short quick passes.
Defense is all over the short passes.
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both #1 and #2 out in the NFC. Brady now out.
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Stafford had an easier time of it compared to Brady.
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Man speed is so hard to defend
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We could've had Mahomes :'(
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Don’t start everybody could have had Mahommes
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We could've had Mahomes :'(
Instead, we got Trubisky.. Who's no longer on the team... Brilliant!
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Are we not entertained ? That had to be the best 4 games in the NFL in a row all season. And notice something they all had in common- the refs were mostly invisible. Its amazing how well the game runs when they don't have to interject themselves as much as they have normally done. Of course, it also helps that these are good teams playing one another, but I saw a lot that would have been called in the regular season where here the refs held their flags. And it was good......
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We could've had Mahomes :'(
We also could have had Bradshaw, Montana, Favre, Rodgers, Brees, Brady...
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no, Bradshaw was taken #1, Bears had the #2 pick, which somehow wound up with the Packers. Bears 1st pick in 1970 was in the 3rd round - wr George Farmer (UCLA).
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They lost Bradshaw in a coin toss with Pittsburgh.
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Nonetheless, take him off and add on:
Jim Kelly and Dan Marino. How's that?
We also could have had Jim Kelly, Marino, Montana, Favre, Rodgers, Brees, Brady...
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Even Halas couldn't get the coin toss right :D
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Seriously the last 4 games I saw over the weekend were some of the best games I ever saw.
We saw history being made.
The new QB's are taking over and asserting themselves.
The past is fading before our eyes as the new crop takes over according to Darwin.
Isn't it just fuccking slick ... that we just happen to have one of the new breed of QB.
WHO : Is basically worth jackshit unless we protect him on OFFENSIVE LINE.
Can Justin Fields win 8 SuperBowls ?
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Are any of these teams asking to interview Nagy or Pace?
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Are any of these teams asking to interview Nagy or Pace?
You win the internet for today.
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My take on the Bills/Chiefs game as far as QB play goes (other than they both were outstanding), I was wondering what would happen if both teams had the other team's QB.
Mahomes made a lot of the plays by improvisation. The Bills D did a good job (until 13 secs remained in the game) in flustering what KC wanted to do. His improvisational skills won out.
Allen made a lot of plays that seemed to be drawn up the way they were designed to. Especially the runs which seemed intentional and not a mad scramble like Mahomes did. I'm not saying his improvisational skills are worse than Mahomes, but he had to use it less because the system was so well catered to his strengths. And that is Daboll, for sure. The man will be HC somewhere.
In short, Mahomes (although he can play within the system designed) was forced to improvise, and did some awesome stuff. Allen running his plays did some awesome stuff. It would be so cool to go to an alternate reality and switch QBs and play the game. I bet it still would be a classic.....
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2 good teams for sure, good game..
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I miss the days when the defense would light the QB up. Bears 85' D style. Now, it's 'what trick crap did the QB do?'...
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Did they both play "prevent' defense in the final minutes?
They matriculated down the field rapidly...
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Did they both play "prevent' defense in the final minutes?
They matriculated down the field rapidly...
I heard a guy on the radio, can’t remember who, say the Bills were defending the sidelines as if KC had to get out of bounds to stop the clock.
Only they didn’t because they had their time outs.
This left the middle of the field open.
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Yup thats true they had all 3 of them to use.
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Ryan Poles KC director of personnel expected to be signed today as GM before he heads north to interview with the Vikings
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Now that Poles is hired , exciting all Polish background people in Chicago ...
where do you think this goes for H.C. slot ?
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@TomPelissero
The #Broncos are finalizing a deal with #Packers OC Nathaniel Hackett to make him their new head coach, per sources.
Contract talks heated up Wednesday night. The #Jaguars planned to interview Hackett again today. Instead, Denver lands its top choice.
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@ChrisPorterFCN
Source tells me that Byron Leftwich is the #jaguars pick but the hold up is over who will have control of the roster. Leftwich wants Trent Baalke out and the #Jaguars to hire Adrian Wilson who is the Vice President of pro scouting with Cardinals.
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22 years. It's been a good run.
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Well those Dolphin fans are pissed now that Harbaugh is reportedly interviewing with the Vikings...
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Since the last time I posted here two teams have moved to my town ...
has that ever happened to your town ?
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Cinncy - L.A. SuperBowl bound.
If burrows can do it Fields can do it.
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Burrows played calm as he11... He threw the int, came back as if it never happened...
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Fields needs a better cast in front of him to give him more protection.
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If he had a couple receivers that block and get separation like Cooper Kupp - he would be in the playoffs every year
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Well supposedly Getsy has been a WR coach too. So maybe that will help Fields too. Fields needs to learn to hold on to the ball better.
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I'm glad Fields had to endure no more than one season with Nagy..
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how would you grade HC & OC ?
A thru F ?
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Looks like Harbaugh is headed to Minny, that will just suck.
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meh
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Looks like Harbaugh is headed to Minny, that will just suck.
IDC. No big deal.
Jim Harbaugh now has a combined 3-9 record against Michigan State and Ohio State. You hate to see it. — Walker Carey (@walkerRcarey) October 30, 2021 The record speaks for itself.
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So what does that quote say? It says Jim Harbaugh is not a very good coach. So who cares if a not so good coach goes to Minny?
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But there is also speculation that this is simply a ploy by Harbaugh to get a better contract with Michigan, after he took a pay cut a year ago.
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I never said bad spelling. I dont do things like that
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Fuuck Minny & Fuuck Harbough .
How do you grade our HC & OC?
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Harbaugh staying at Michigan. What an odd bird. 2nd HS signing day, and he is interviewing with the Vikings. Jilts the Vikings, potentially screws Michigan. This has all the markers of a big muscle flex, and that is all...
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Who's got it better than us?
NO - BODY!!
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That’s not going to help his future recruiting
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(https://i.redd.it/sstqp3gghof81.jpg)
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VJ
In all those years Brady only played that rarely against the NFC West? That seems odd.
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Seahawks were one bad play call in the Super Bowl from an undefeated record against Brady.
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As bad as the dolphins have been over Brady's career that is the team he lost the most against.
Weird.
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Some teams just seem to have other team's numbers for some reason. Like in 85... and playing a SB in Miami..... :(
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I see Lovie is expected to be the next coach of the Texans. Desperation...
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I guess you can say the Texans took a hit for the team (e.g. the Shield). There was no way they were not going to hire a minority coach after firing their minority coach and in the wake of the Flores accusations.....
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Desperation is right. When I read he was hired I thought it was the UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS first.
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Desperation is right. When I read he was hired I thought it was the UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS first.
I wish Lovie Smith well. Hope he succeeds. He was a good coach over-all while with the Bears and it was fun to watch those defensive teams that he had.
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It was kind of aggravating seeing slants given up so easily ALL THE TIME (esp to Favre and Rodgers). But the turnovers did help :D
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Sean Desai got himself an "associate head coach" title in Seattle who will work with the DC. He did a decent job last year and I am very glad he did not go to Minnesota.
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Too bad we don't get a draft pick for that...
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Well living around L.A. I have to congratulate the Rams.
How come we cant do this ?
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Eric Weddle sure lucked out.
Signed with the Rams about 3 weeks ago and now has a ring.
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The only thing I don't like is that the officials held their flags until the end of the game then changed how they officiated it. Not a good look IMHO......
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Eric Weddle sure lucked out.
Signed with the Rams about 3 weeks ago and now has a ring.
At least Weddle earned the ring - he played well after he came out of retirement.
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What an absolute disgrace the Super Bowl was last night! The Cincinnati Bengal’s won Super Bowl LVI until the radical left California Democrats came in late at night and all of a sudden the Rams had enough points to win. The Bengals can still win if Mike pence has the courage to do what must be done.
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As usual, the SB was a letdown over the games previous. But I guess since we were treated to some of the better games over the last few weeks, a drop-off was coming anyway. And hows it got to feel to be a Lions fan ? All those years with Detroit and not winning and one year with a new team and Stafford gets his SB ring. Maybe this closes the Bobby Lane curse now.....
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What an absolute disgrace the Super Bowl was last night! The Cincinnati Bengal’s won Super Bowl LVI until the radical left California Democrats came in late at night and all of a sudden the Rams had enough points to win. The Bengals can still win if Mike pence has the courage to do what must be done.
Very dumb indeed
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The out look for the future is such that we could be inline to challenge Joe Burrow in the next Superbowl because sure in hell nobody picked the Rams or Cinncy to be where they got.
The outllok at Halas hall is there is no fuuckin outlook at Halas Hall.
At least what the new management is broadcasting.
Near as I can figure is they pretty much see things in terms of need on Offensive Line.
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The out look for the future is such that we could be inline to challenge Joe Burrow in the next Superbowl because sure in hell nobody picked the Rams or Cinncy to be where they got.
The outllok at Halas hall is there is no fuuckin outlook at Halas Hall.
At least what the new management is broadcasting.
Near as I can figure is they pretty much see things in terms of need on Offensive Line.
That, to me, is progress, though.
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What if we took our meager draft picks and applied them to OL & WR to give Fields a 2.5 second time frame to chuck the rock ?
Would "I still own you " amount to jack shiit anymore ?
I have this feeling with the new regime that we are getting ready to permanently reduce G.B. as an irritant.
Just as they have done to us for thirty years. :)
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/02/16/chicago-bears-nfl-free-agency-fit-cam-robinson/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
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Pace just got a FO job working along side Emery in ATL. Weird.
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Maybe they are going to let him make late round draft picks. Other than that, look out.
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Was Pace going to obscure colleges to draft TE's was when he drafted Trubisky or was that the next year in the draft ?
I fergot.
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Pace has had his issues with his early drafts with Kevin White, Trubisky, Shaheen and Anthony Miller all bad picks for whatever reason.
But if Fields and Jenkins can rebound his last 2 drafts could be the core of the Bears team for years to come:
2021
1 11 Fields, Justin QB Ohio State F/NYG
2 39 Jenkins, Teven OT Oklahoma State F/CAR
5 151 Borom, Larry OT Missouri F/CAR
6 217 Herbert, Khalil RB Virginia Tech F/TB/SEA
6 221 Newsome, Dazz WR North Carolina F/NFL
6 228 Graham Jr., Thomas CB Oregon F/NFL
7 250 Tonga, Khyiris DT BYU F/SEA
2020
2 43 Kmet, Cole TE Notre Dame f/LV
2 50 Johnson, Jaylon CB Utah
5 155 Gipson, Trevis DE Tulsa f/Cle/Buf/Min
5 163 Vildor, Kindle CB Georgia Southern
5 173 Mooney, Darnell WR Tulane f/Bal/LAR/Mia/Phi
7 226 Hambright, Arlington OG Colorado f/LV
7 227 Simmons, Lachavious OG Tennessee State f/Ind/Mia/Phi
Pace needed Nagy to make Fields a rookie stud and it just didn't happen.
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Dal,
you said it all right there ...
White
Trubisky
Shaheen
and there were more ...
head scratchers personified !
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https://youtu.be/I6mpHW3SMcc
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I guess if you play in the league you better not bet on games. Mr. Ridley what were you thinking?
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I heard he only gambled while on the injured list. I wonder if he'll be able to gamble while he sits at home next season.
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Stupid for sure..
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Craap:
Well, it was fun while it lasted. Even if it never got started.
For all his huffing and puffing, Aaron Rodgers didn’t blow Green Bay’s house down.
Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that the Packers and Rodgers have agreed to terms on a four-year, $200 million deal. It makes him the highest paid player in league history. He’ll get $153 million guaranteed, and it will reduce his cap number of $46.66 million.
As usual, the devil will reside in the details of the deal. How much is fully guaranteed at signing? Is it a two-year commitment? Three years? Four? We’ll know once the deal is available to be scrutinized.
Regardless, it ends the drama regarding Rodgers’s destination. For all the bluster about wanting out, he’s staying put.
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Russell Wilson to the Broncos.
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Russell Wilson to the Broncos.
Getting the message that Denver gave away the future for him. He better be what Denver expects.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjWcipoG3cY
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Seattle sweeping the house clean, Bobby Wagner released.
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Anything left in the tank ? Get cheap ? Griz, has traffic increased to Chicago levels in Lavernge ? Its gotten ridiculous in Spring Hill. Worse, buncha Cali Plates on the cars.
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Anything left in the tank ? Get cheap ? Griz, has traffic increased to Chicago levels in Lavernge ? Its gotten ridiculous in Spring Hill.
Worse, buncha Cali Plates on the cars.
People have been driving from California to Tennessee for years to fill their gastanks.
It makes economic sense. You believe me don't you ?
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there coming here. They ain't goin back. Come and pick some up would you ?
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there coming here. They ain't goin back. Come and pick some up would you ?
Maybe we can trade all the Tennesseans crowding California back.
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46 - Not seeing any Cali plates in Lavergne yet. Our roads are jammed. Fortunately, I go against the Nashville traffic both ways to work in Murfreesboro. But Murf is growing like crazy now also. My son bought a 1100 sq ft house in 2019 for $170k - $5k over asking. It is now appraised at $300K. You can't find a house in Greater Nashville because of the influx of new residents, alot coming from illinois.
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Griz - honk as you go by exit 70 I work about 3/4 mile from it. Gotta look quick about 1/4 from the exit going north, that's the factory. 840 has become a chamber of horrors, accidents at 90 mph bring out the hearses not the ambulances. Tele commute the only way if you can.
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Trubisky is signing a 2 year deal to be the Steelers new QB…
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Trubisky to the Steelers
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I hope he has success, unless he's playing the Bears..
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Not sure you can teach accuracy, but I wouldn't be surprised if he suddenly improves and does pretty well in Pitt....
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Not sure you can teach accuracy, but I wouldn't be surprised if he suddenly improves and does pretty well in Pitt....
If only we'd taken Jamal Adams instead of Trubisky ... :-[
life would have turned out better for the both of them.
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Another need for the list:
The Packers are remaking their special teams units this offseason and the changes will include the addition of a new punter.
Tom Pelissero of NFL Media reports that they are signing Pat O'Donnell away from the Bears. No terms of the deal have been revealed.
O’Donnell averaged 46.2 yards per punt last season and has an average of 45.1 yards per kick over eight seasons with Chicago. He completed the only pass he’s ever tried for a 38-yard touchdown in 2017.
Corey Bojorquez punted for the Packers in 2021 and the 49ers blocked one of his kicks to fuel their playoff win in Lambeau Field. The Packers fired special teams coordinator Maurice Drayton after that loss and hired Rich Bisaccia to take over his role.
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The only reason Odonnell stayed if I recall is that he was drafted. And the Bears already had Tress Way (you know the guy who went to a few probowls as a punter) on their roster that they let go.
NEVER waste a draft pick on a punter/kicker (a reincarnated Ray Guy excepted- he could have been more than a kicker but was great at that).....
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Looks like we will be looking for a new punter.
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Watson reportedly down to Saints and Falcons…
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Personally I think he is going to jail first
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They already decided no criminal charges.
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Looks like my other team Da Oakland Los Angeles Oakland Las Vegas Raiduhs picked up an obscure WR from G.B.
Anybody know anything about a dude named Davante Adams ? ???
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Watson picks the Browns. $230M fully guaranteed.
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Matt Ryan to the Colts for 2022 3rd round pick.
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Watson picks the Browns. $230M fully guaranteed.
WTF?
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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins for a 1,2,4 this yeah and a 4,6 next year.
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crazy
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Holy Gazookas ! Getting up to Herschel Walker and Ricky Williams altitude.
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Some teams are flat out ... out of their motherfuuckin minds.
A "go all in now " mentality that wants to copy the Tampa & L.A. success.
Miami being the latest example in targeting retreads instead of building a young foundation that grows up together.
Chiefs sure aint bitchen about this trade ! ;D
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Adams to
Oakland Las Vegas. Deshawn Watson to Cleveland. Matt Ryan to Indy. Tyreek Hill to Miami. To quote Vince Lomardi "What da hell is going out dere ?"......
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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins for a 1,2,4 this yeah and a 4,6 next year.
Another WTF?
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I should posted this link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V0TYIO6yv4
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And what did the Cowboys get for Amari Cooper?
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Baker Mayfield to the Bucs? Don't they have a guy ? Ole what's his name ?
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Andy Dalton to the Saints
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Andy Dalton to the Saints
That means Baker Mayfield falls to us as a backup. Nyuk! :P
Two fields playing at Soldiers Field. Makes sense.
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Arians retires. Bowles takes over as HC.
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Wow, a condition of Brady's unretirement???
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"What da hell is going on out there ?"
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"What da hell is going on out there ?"
Walter Payton to come out of retirement.
A loooooooooooooong way out of retirement.
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Maybe Leno comes out of retirement to man the LT hole we have.
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Leno's missed block got Fitzgerald knocked out for the year. Great first game for Washington.
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I think Poles has Leno on speed dial
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Of course Bobby Wagner signs with the Rams.
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Leno gave up 6.5 sacks with 2 penalties - played 17 games. 18 if you count playoffs.
Peters gave up 5 sacks with 3 penalties. Played 15 games.
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How many hurries?
Seems like SOP for the QB or RB to scramble/pray for a hole on every play
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Steelers Q.B. Dwayne Haskins dead at age 24.
Struck by truck while walking on highway in Florida.
R.I.P. :(
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Should there be an "Around The USFL" forum or is it too early ?
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Too stupid.
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Too stupid.
Are you sure ?
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Who knows stupid better than Otto?
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Yup
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Yup daveSharpie23
And you qualify.
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Just proof that lead in the water is serious thing, (unless maybe licking Victorian wallpaper is a thing and with the Left, you never know....)
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Trying to watch a little USFL and it looks like there are less than 100 fans at the game.
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Trying to watch a little USFL and it looks like there are less than 100 fans at the game.
Think of it as minor leagues for the NFL and remember that Kurt Warner came out of arena bowl.
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Yesterdays games were better. Today's was a battle of incompetence. I sure hope its not a sneak peak forward to the Bears this year....
The miced up stuff is great and getting to hear the play calls and review is also pretty good.
And tonite no one's going to be able to see it because its streaming in Peacock....
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And tonite no one's going to be able to see it because its streaming in Peacock....
Who doesn't have Peacock?
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Probably the same ones that dont have the streaming Disney and CNN.
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Who doesn't have Peacock?
I hear peacocks make good watchdogs.
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Wow everybody and their brother is signing QB's after the draft.
Camp fodder to throw the ball in training camp and then cut ?
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JJ
You still trying watch that usfl stuff?
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Its more interesting than the Packers
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Well, you enjoy yourself olde man.
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Who doesn't have Peacock?
People who actually care about watching something non-trash :D
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I dont usually watch gimmics and rubbish
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I dont usually watch gimmics and rubbish
And yet I see you in the Politics topic every damn day…
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haha, but Oddo could leave you with that impression
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I wouldnt watch Oddo if he were on TV, which is what I was talking about.
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I wouldnt watch Oddo if he were on TV, which is what I was talking about.
I would.
I miss BOZO the CLOWN on WGN.
** snif**
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https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/tarik-cohen-mental-health-nfl-football
Tarik Cohen wrote this about his NFL experience. Poor guy has had a lot of tragedy. He says the injury was both acl and mcl as well as a bone fracture.
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https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/tarik-cohen-mental-health-nfl-football
Tarik Cohen wrote this about his NFL experience. Poor guy has had a lot of tragedy. He says the injury was both acl and mcl as well as a bone fracture.
If you're that small you have to be built like Maurice Jones Drew whose stubby strong legs allowed him to accelerate away from defenders.
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@spotrac
Guarantees handed out by the #Rams this offseason:
Matthew Stafford, $130M
Aaron Donald, $95M
Cooper Kupp, $75M
Allen Robinson, $31M
Joe Noteboom, $25M
Bobby Wagner, $20M
Brian Allen, $10M
7 players, $386M.
7:03 PM · Jun 8, 2022
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Used to like Rivera.. After the way he treated Del Rio.. Fukk him!! It was a valid question.
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https://www.chicagobears.com/news/longtime-bears-beat-writer-john-mullin-passes-away
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He was a good one.
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Are we good enough to go 10-7?
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I'd like the month of September to watch to make a prediction at the record. Too many new parts. The schedule is the most favorable we have had in many years.
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The safe bet is the Bears will be the bottom of the division. If Fields has a breakout season and the D plays OK, tops, .500...
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Wanna know why nobody posts about NFL news here ?
Because everybody and their fuuckin ancestor is being sued.
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Are we good enough to go 10-7?
IMHO NO, NO, NO
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Jesper Horsted caught a 16 yd pass for the Raiders in the Hall of Fame game.
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IMHO NO, NO, NO
Time will tell.
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Mond finished his cup of coffee at Minnesota
Tyler Johnson was surprisingly waived by the Bucs. Possible WR pickup
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Time will tell.
It will and you wont like it.
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It will and you wont like it.
The slate gets wiped clean to FIFTY THREE.
Fifty three motherfuuckers on a mission to get a paycheck ...
HOW MANT OF THEM KNOW ...
that its NOT about the paycheck ...
BUT ABOUT THE CHICAGO BEARS ?
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A lot of NFL dreams died over the last few days. Some deservedly, some not so. Buckle up. The ride's just starting. Go Bears !
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https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-stadium-rankings-2022-best-venues-football?itm_source=parsely-api
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That was a dismantling by the Bills last night. The final score does not show how lopsided it really was. Even when it was tied at halftime it never felt the Rams were truly in it. Wonder if they should've played their starters some in the pre-season ?
Bills friend of mine texted me a good one: There is no OBJ in "team". :D
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That was a dismantling by the Bills last night. The final score does not show how lopsided it really was. Even when it was tied at halftime it never felt the Rams were truly in it. Wonder if they should've played their starters some in the pre-season ?
Bills friend of mine texted me a good one: There is no OBJ in "team". :D
What there is is a Von Miller with an idea on how to sell the Rams to Buffalo.
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That was a dismantling by the Bills last night. The final score does not show how lopsided it really was. Even when it was tied at halftime it never felt the Rams were truly in it. Wonder if they should've played their starters some in the pre-season ?
Bills friend of mine texted me a good one: There is no OBJ in "team". :D
They didn't replace their OL who left very well.
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Christian Watson wide open on a bomb drops the ball.
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Packers lose. Vikes do em in. Never seen Rodgers pressured like that
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From FMIA (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/09/12/saquon-barkley-giants-peter-king-fmia-week-1/)
Jay Glazer reported before the game on FOX that coach Kyle Shanahan and GM John Lynch, after Jimmy Garoppolo got re-signed, asked 15 team leaders to be sure they had Trey Lance’s back if times got tough this season. According to Glazer, they said words to this effect to the 15 team leaders: Guys, we need your support here. We’ve got to make sure that you get Trey’s back. There will be some bumpy roads ahead. We’ve got to make sure that people aren’t clamoring to move on to Jimmy. We’ve got to make sure we have your support.” Clearly, they recognized that Garoppolo has lots of friends in the locker room and wanted to prevent the fracturing of the locker room if Lance went through a bad run.
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Miami Dolphins come thru again! Wearing away team white colors in September forcing their opponents to wear dark colored jerseys and die in the heat of 110 degrees field conditions in Miami!
Slick motherfuuckers. ;)
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As someone who has gone to Miami's Stadium for a September game. NEVER AGAIN! I sweated my ass off. I drank like 20 waters. I literally had sweat running down my legs the whole game. It was F'ing brutal. Definitely home field advantage for the Phins.
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I am going to watch the Denver/Seattle game tonight. I want to see if Seattle is as bad as they were when they played the preseason Bears and if Russel Wilson kicks the seachickens into the Pacific Ocean.
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Miami Dolphins come thru again! Wearing away team white colors in September forcing their opponents to wear dark colored jerseys and die in the heat of 110 degrees field conditions in Miami!
Slick motherfuuckers. ;)
The Bucs do the same thing. Sweat out the other teams, while wearing their visitor whites. Also, the Bucs placed the visitor side of the field that gets the sun almost the whole game. Definitely a home field advantage in September and October.
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Passing Game: The NFL’s Flexible Bylaws Keep Football a Family Affair (https://www.sportico.com/business/finance/2022/nfl-succession-plans-chicago-bears-mccaskey-1234687987/)
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VJ
Good read
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What you think, Cam Newton to the Cowboys?
Is Cooper Rush really the best they can do?
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LOL!! Sucks to be a Cowboy fan right now..
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Cowboys were already hurting before Prescott went out. Lost their probowl LT Tyron Smith. Lost WR Cooper and Gallup is still hurt. Lost a good pass rusher Randy Gregory to free agency.
Haven't heard of any Bears injuries from the 49er game.
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Interesting view from the other side in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueladB7PtjA
The exasperation about the Pettis TD is priceless.....
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It's Rodgers and fuucking green bay.
Goddammit it's always green motherfuucking bay.
If we could just get over that hurdle.
We know it's coming ... ;) :D ;D
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Alex Bars started at left guard for the Raiders on Sunday.
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Hats off to the Dolphins for once again wearing AWAY jerseys at home in Miami in September !!
Buffallo is a lock on going to the S.B. !
Not quite yet. :D
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Buffalo stumbled (also think they took Miami a little too lightly) as expected at some point. Still both teams are fun to watch though....
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If they move the KC v. Tampa Bay game to Minneapolis, I'm goin'...
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If they move the KC v. Tampa Bay game to Minneapolis, I'm goin'...
What have you heard ?
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Strib (https://www.startribune.com/chiefs-buccaneers-hurricane-ian-minneapolis-u-s-bank-stadium-nfl-will-move-if-needed/600210976/) and PFT (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/09/28/if-chiefs-buccaneers-is-moved-it-will-be-played-at-u-s-bank-stadium/)
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Minneapolis is certainly out of the path of Ian...
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Hiber - How you doing down there in Florida? I can't recall other users in florida, our prayers are with you on the recovery. Iused to live in Bradenton, and worked in Sarasota. Lots of water and downed trees,
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So far so good. Two of my neighbor's had trees fall on their roosf and damage the houses. Still way too much wind to get out and assess damage at my farms.
One buddy father-in-law call last night asking for help. He is in his 70's and decided to stay in Fort Meyers. He was using a mattress to stay above the water that flood his house 6' deep. The guy should have evacuated when he could. No rescue personal, let alone my buddy could get to him.
I think SW FL going to see a lot of damage. My friend that lives in Mayaka City said 100+mph wind and he is good bit inland.
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If they move the KC v. Tampa Bay game to Minneapolis, I'm goin'...
From what i heard you will get your wish. Maybe it all hinges on major damage to Tampa area. Quien sabe?
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They just announced in about an hour ago that the Buccaneers will play at Raymond James in Tampa.
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So far so good. Two of my neighbor's had trees fall on their roosf and damage the houses. Still way too much wind to get out and assess damage at my farms.
One buddy father-in-law call last night asking for help. He is in his 70's and decided to stay in Fort Meyers. He was using a mattress to stay above the water that flood his house 6' deep. The guy should have evacuated when he could. No rescue personal, let alone my buddy could get to him.
I think SW FL going to see a lot of damage. My friend that lives in Mayaka City said 100+mph wind and he is good bit inland.
Glad you're safe, Fort Myers is wrecked. Hurricane Michael hit Mexico Beach in 2018, and it was horrific. Fort Myers is much more densely populated, the pictures coming out this morning... so much destruction. Ver familiar with Myakka City, we lived about 30 minutes away in Bradenton - Lakewood Ranch area off of SR 70.
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I hate Aaron Rodgers and hope that he dies rotting and stinking in the ground. Does that make me a bad person?
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Yes.
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I hate Aaron Rodgers and hope that he dies rotting and stinking in the ground. Does that make me a bad person?
Not really - it will happen to us all eventually.
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Anybody other than Oddo watch the Packers/Patriots? The refs tried to give the Pack the game in the 4th. The Ref call was TD but Pats went crazy and they ended up overturnig it. Clearly the guy fumbled the ball
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Old guy
The play in your post was called incomplete on the field and confirmed on replay.
What is your take on the refs letting a NE TD to be scored after the play clock had expired for about 3 seconds?
BTW at 821 wins GB is the winningest team in the history of the NFL!
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Imagine if Carroll approved the reported trade of Wilson to the Bears.
In 2022, you get an aging veteran QB, a similar roster with a shitty o-line, a few more years of Pace drafting without 1st round draft picks until they move to Arlington, Nagy still strolling the sidelines with his Denny's menu stuck up in nose, and little cap space in '23 with Wilson and Mack eating most of it up.
Ugh, I'll take the upside of Fields hoping he survives this season, a new front office that prioritizes draft over FA , a full slate of draft picks, and the extra cap space...
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Imagine if Carroll approved the reported trade of Wilson to the Bears.
In 2022, you get an aging veteran QB, a similar roster with a shitty o-line, a few more years of Pace drafting without 1st round draft picks until they move to Arlington, Nagy still strolling the sidelines with his Denny's menu stuck up in nose, and little cap space in '23 with Wilson and Mack eating most of it up.
Ugh, I'll take the upside of Fields hoping he survives this season, a new front office that prioritizes draft over FA , a full slate of draft picks, and the extra cap space...
Aren't BEARRSSE also largest owners of paying dead money to players no longer on the team ?
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watched the Raiders vs Chiefs tonight. Alex Bars looks good playing right guard for the Raiders. Also Jesper Horsted caught 3 passes for the Raiders.
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Robby Anderson to the Cardinals for a 6th in ‘24 and a 7th in ‘25…
Ugh…
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He was headcase and inconsistent. The Bears have inconsistent, but not sure they have headcases among them. Glad they didn't take the cheese.....
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Who knew Kevin White was still in the league? Did you see that catch and run last night?
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Ugh...White. Another in a long list of first round draft failures....
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I don't blame the kid. Its not his fault the stupid-ass scouting department convinced the even dumber than a bag of hammers GM to draft him as high as he did. More power Kevin White.....
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I looked it up, we drafted him in 2015. If you asked me before I looked it up, I would've thought it was more like 2010. Seems like that was forever ago.
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I think back to Cade McNown. That's back when I believed in this organization. Believed they had a bit of an idea of what they were doing. What a disaster year after year. I've learned, you spell dysfunctional "Cubs" or "Bears"...
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This Ogunjobi guy for the Steelers looks like a real run-stuffer…wish we could get a guy like that to anchor the middle of our DLine…
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This Ogunjobi guy for the Steelers looks like a real run-stuffer…wish we could get a guy like that to anchor the middle of our DLine…
He is supposed to be a 3 technique DT which means pass rusher. Maybe he's off to a slow start with only 1/2 sack so far or maybe the Bears doctors knew he wasn't completely healthy.
Nah!
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WR Tyler Johnson waived by Houston. I would like Poles to get him on board...
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That’s the former Minnesota WR, right?
I liked him on draft day…
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Yep straight outta north Mpls.
IMO Tyler Johnson > Coulter, Webster, Roberson
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That's not a high bar...
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Going five years forward ... which QB's do you see in the NFC Norf that are around today ?
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Sure won't be Rodgers...
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What the fuuck do you do when you want your team to win but not make the playoffs because its not in their interest this year ?
The Chicago conundrum. ???
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Watch the end of the Vikings Bills
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Anyone watching this joke of a game between the Cowboys and Packers? Cowboys are getting totally ripped off. Just had a incredibly obvious pass interference not called that turned the course of the game. The Packer defender was all over the reciever before the ball got there and it wasn't called, and yet before that there were two ticky tack bs calls against the Cowboys. This game is so rigged it's unreal....
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I agree, the refs have been too obvious..
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ATTENTION RELIGIOUS SHARPIE!!!
Stay in your lane. It’s ConspiracySharpie’s job to constantly complain about reffing and the Packers.
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Try again....
https://twitter.com/_joeyhayden/status/1591956974794670080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1591956974794670080%7Ctwgr%5E7d4c970efff70aeca780005dca15c50ffa6abf6e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcowboyswire.usatoday.com%2F2022%2F11%2F14%2Fno-explanation-frustrated-cowboys-blame-officials%2F
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I see the Redskins beat the Eagles, who are supposed to be the best team in football.. Nolongerundefeated
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I watched
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Similar to Bears-Commanders game - 4th qtr Go-Ahead TD pass hit receiver in his hands - he then got it stripped
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He was also badly (and it was bad) facemasked. Of course not seen so not called. Supposedly there were 12 men on defense on the Cook run stuff the end of the Vikings game (well, almost the end). That is beyond the pale bad......
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Has a GM in Poles situation had so much power and money in BEARRSSE history?
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Does it matter when the Bears can't draft right to save their lives, JJ?? All ya gotta do is delve into their draft history...if you dare....it's horrible. They hit a few times and miss all over the place....
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Does it matter when the Bears can't draft right to save their lives, JJ?? All ya gotta do is delve into their draft history...if you dare....it's horrible. They hit a few times and miss all over the place....
Under past management this has been true.
Think about this Sporty ... could we like see Roquan Smith back here soon ?
Like next year ?
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Thats theoretically possible JJ. Its too early to tell what happens to Roquan Smith right now.
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Under past management this has been true.
Think about this Sporty ... could we like see Roquan Smith back here soon ?
Like next year ?
You're right every GM has to be judged independently. But right now Poles draft is so-so. Would our top 2 picks Brisker and Gordon make an all-rookie team? Braxton Jones and the punter Gill have better odds.
As for Smith, Ravens could re-sign him or just tag him or let him loose in free agency and get a 3rd round comp pick in '24. Not sure that he would want to come back to the Bears unless they showed him some love.
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This offseason will tell the true value of Roquan, won't it? Though Shaq Leonard is now out for the season with back surgery, I have a feeling players around the league will stuff the box for Smith so he gets paid, and he is having a good season by most standards. If he doesn't get the $20 million he was asking for and settles for say $18, I wonder if we will ever know what the Poles offer was?
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Everyone should take 20 minutes and watch this…great stuff…
https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1592885011606573056?s=20&t=kbvQnh-Vh0VdcjXNrGvIGQ
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Is it $123,000,000.00 in cap space ?
https://youtu.be/UWN6R0G1HyY?t=88
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The Bears chances of making the playoffs this year are like the real name of that cowboy. And he just left town.
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What an interesting day in football to say the least yesterday.... The Vikings get completely blown out and the Jets lose in the most Jets'iest way possible. Entertaining games at least....
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What an interesting day in football to say the least yesterday.... The Vikings get completely blown out and the Jets lose in the most Jets'iest way possible. Entertaining games at least....
And we play the Jets next
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THANKS VIKINGS for making DAA BEARRSSE look good against the Cowboys compared to you !
Where's V2?
Vikings cap space 2023 : MINUS $4,046,042.00
Heh !
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Maybe Bears get to do some FA shopping in Minnesota if they are over the cap.
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As for Smith, Ravens could re-sign him or just tag him or let him loose in free agency and get a 3rd round comp pick in '24.
The Ravens only have one tag. They have two tag worthy FA's. If they don't sign one or the other before the deadline then one of them is hitting the market and there is no way they tag Roquan before Lamar. I think they both want to test the market so I don't think either one will sign before the deadline.
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Isn't there also a transition tag? Are those even used anymore?
The franchise tag dollar figure need to be modified. There's a big difference between a 3-4 pass rushing edge guy vs a 4-3 linebacker. The linebacker franchise tag is higher than any other position on defense.
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Isn't there also a transition tag? Are those even used anymore?
The franchise tag dollar figure need to be modified. There's a big difference between a 3-4 pass rushing edge guy vs a 4-3 linebacker. The linebacker franchise tag is higher than any other position on defense.
Teams can use one of the other not both.
The teams have the option of using one of three tags.
- Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag
- Exclusive Franchise Tag
- Transitions Tag
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Teams can use one of the other not both.
The teams have the option of using one of three tags.
- Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag
- Exclusive Franchise Tag
- Transitions Tag
Where does Smith the LB fall into place in this? You know which Smith I mean.
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he can be either of the first 2.
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Dear Broncos and Rams,
Win a goddamn game or 2 for fucksake.
Thanks.
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Yes it would help us stay at #2
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Yes it would help us stay at #2
We own the draft if we stay at number 2.
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Broncos remaining schedule:
vs Kansas City
vs Arizona
@ Los Angeles Rams
@ Kansas City
vs Los Angeles Chargers
I don't see a win there.
Rams remaining schedule:
vs Las Vegas
@ Green Bay
vs Denver
@ Los Angeles Chargers
@ Seattle
Stafford is done for the year. Denver is possibly only win since its at home.
Bears if they lose out are looking at #3 pick.
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Rams are hapless. I can't see them beating Denver.
I think Denver could play Arizona close at home. Kyler is not that good.
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Also got to root for any team playing the Ravens. We own their 2nd round pick.
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With no Jackson, they have issues as well…
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With no Jackson, they have issues as well…
Also got to root for any team playing the Ravens. We own their 2nd round pick.
Heh !
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Stafford is done for the year. Denver is possibly only win since its at home.
Bears if they lose out are looking at #3 pick.
Rams picked up Baker Mayfield off waivers today
https://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/injury-plagued-la-rams-claim-qb-baker-mayfield-off-waivers/USE452GC6BCJJB42CPOUXXRJJM/
The Rams arent dead yet
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You don’t watch games Baker plays in, do you?
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Did when he was in Cleveland but not since
I watched Stafford's games when he was in Detoilet though and didnt think he was so great there too.
Old saying, "Beauty is in the beholders eyes". Meaning that What I think of Stafford may not be what you see and the same with Baker Mayfield.
Last year I watched Andy Dalton with the Bears. Last night I watched him with the Saints and he looked a lot better.
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Stafford is done for the year. Denver is possibly only win since its at home.
Bears if they lose out are looking at #3 pick.
Rams picked up Baker Mayfield off waivers today
https://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/injury-plagued-la-rams-claim-qb-baker-mayfield-off-waivers/USE452GC6BCJJB42CPOUXXRJJM/
The Rams arent dead yet
I think they did that to screw over the 49ers...
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Reportedly the Niners didn’t bother putting in a claim for him…the Rams were the only ones…
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He's the definition of damaged goods....
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I get that. The trouble is how damaged is he? I thought Andy Dalton was past being of any value to anybody but it seems that if he is surrounded with the proper players and in a system that works then he has value.
I didnt think Stafford would find success in LA, but he won a Super Bowl. I admitt that the Rams are desperate. How Mayfield works out in the Ram system is questionable, but I dont think the Rams had any other choice.
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Mayfield should get them a win or two - right now they have someone named John Wolford.
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We all gotta root for Mayfield and the Rams from here on out.
Deeeeeeeeeeeeetroit owns their draft pick and they could move in front of us draft wise. >:(
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Russell-fly effect: Broncos drafted a great CB in Patrick Surtain, and it sunk the franchise (https://sports.yahoo.com/russell-fly-effect-broncos-drafted-a-great-cb-in-patrick-surtain-and-it-sunk-the-franchise-144532785.html)
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Nice revenge game by Chandler Jones. (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/19/chandler-jones-mac-jones-was-standing-there-looking-at-me-with-big-eyes/)
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If Bears somehow get an upset win this season they should pick no worse than #4.
Rams and Denver play each other - one has to win. The loser would tie with the Bears with 4 wins. AZ shouldn't win again so they'll have 4 wins too:
1 Houston (QB for sure)
2 Denver (pick belongs to Seattle - are they happy with Geno Smith?)
3 Arizona (they have Murray so they should go after the top d-lineman)
4 Chicago (Bears can trade down or maybe pick whoever is left over from Carter and Andersen)
But right now Bears have the #2 pick.
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Stat sheet says Khyiris Tonga had 6 tackles for the Vikings against the Colts.
can't remember when a Bear DT had 6 tackles in a game.
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Watts (https://www.nfl.com/players/armon-watts/stats/) had 6 against Washington (should be 2 solo, 4 assist). But yeah Tonga could have been good depth...
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He is a NT and the Vikes play a 3-4. But I thought he did well in limited action in '21 and he also looked good in preseason.
I don't think he even made it to the Bears PS. It looked to me like Poles wanted his guys...you know, that DT foursome that has a total of 3 sacks.
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From the Star Tribune
The Vikings (11-3) could end up with the No. 2 or No. 3 seed in the NFC playoff race. The top seed is not impossible, but it's farfetched. The Eagles (13-1) would have to lose the remaining three games while the Vikings win out against the Giants, Packers and Bears. Maintaining the second spot over the San Francisco 49ers (10-4) is important to O'Connell, who noted the homefield advantage of U.S. Bank Stadium, where a second playoff game would be held if the Vikings win a playoff opener as the No. 2 seed. Winning the last three games accomplishes that goal. One loss and they could fall behind the 49ers, who currently own the tiebreaker with Minnesota thanks to fewer conference losses.
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My memory of Franco Harris is he played too long competing with Payton to break Jim Brown’s rushing record.
Harris avoided getting hit and ran out of bounds whenever possible his last year or two.
Brown called Harris a wuss and wanted Payton to have the record.
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My memory of Franco Harris was that catch and 4 Super Bowls. Franco's Italian army.
He was a huge halfback.
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So the Direct TV contract with the NFL is over and YouTube bought it for $2B.
No price to see games yet
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No they will make you buy a monthly subscription to youtube prime or whatever it is called.
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I think that is right. It sounded like there may be a stand alone package, but I bet they'll make ya pay dearly...
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I think that is right. It sounded like there may be a stand alone package, but I bet they'll make ya pay dearly...
They paid $2B while DTV had paid $500M. Yeah they’ll have to make that money back.
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somewhere along the line the consumer decides "that's too much".
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Some will but most won't. Too many NFL addicts...now with gambling opening up it will be worse.
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Conklin and Jenkins signed extensions today, so that’s two stud free agents that won’t be available for us…
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Thats why we arent talking about the draft and FA, we dont know who all is going to be in or out.
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Thats why we arent talking about the draft and FA, we dont know who all is going to be in or out.
Do you feel that it is wrong to have a 2023 Draft Board because various events have yet to occur and therefore make all of the current 2023 draft posts
irrelevant because they are not focalized into one all encompassing 2023 Draft board ?
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No one cares about what date is on it but you.
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No one cares about what date is on it but you.
Yeah I noticed that. Now can you explain to all of us on this forum why everything we have done has resulted in failure since 1986?
Maybe because we are too stupid and slow to get on the uptake towards the future?
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I am pretty sure a date on a Bears forum has nothing to do with the lack of success by the Bears.
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I am pretty sure a date on a Bears forum has nothing to do with the lack of success by the Bears.
And what has been achieved by waiting until god knows when by a forum that refuses to accept reality ?
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Or a fan base ? :D
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Why not have a 2024, 2025, and 2026 forum too right now?
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Why not have a 2024, 2025, and 2026 forum too right now?
I agree ... why not ?
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I figured you'd say that which is why I posted that.
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Is there a more despicable and evil entity in the history of human civilization than Tom Brady?
He must be destroyed.
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Brady must die.
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Worthless ****.
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(https://media3.giphy.com/media/3oriOafgCGbCjVI7S0/giphy.gif)
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Dudes ridiculous. Two hands full of rings.....crazy....
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I need Denver & Arizona to win.
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Nice try at KC. I think Denver has a shot against the Chargers at home. Wilson gotta show Harbaugh or Payton he's not a total lost cause...
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Philly has THREE OFFENSIVE LINEMEN going to the Pro Bowl.
Could that account for their record this season ?
Naaahhh .
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Detroit game against the Pack moved to Sunday night. Should be a great game to end the season, right?
But what if Seattle wins in their late afternoon game at home against the Rams. Well, then Detroit is automatically eliminated and the NFL might possibly give the Pack an opponent that really has no incentive to win.
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Detroit game against the Pack moved to Sunday night. Should be a great game to end the season, right?
But what if Seattle wins in their late afternoon game at home against the Rams. Well, then Detroit is automatically eliminated and the NFL might possibly give the Pack an opponent that really has no incentive to win.
If the Bears game is @ 1pm and the Pack moved, our game will be on MY TV
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Detroit at GB is on SNF.
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1971 was the year I began following the Bears. - hopefully Hamlin survives - Chuck Hughes did not:
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/chuck-hughes-only-nfl-player-to-die-in-game/114oyq1niwf5p15lxwuo62m1ma
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Detroit at GB is on SNF.
Yeah, good news
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To all those who may feel football is too dangerous to play- all you have to look at is how many soccer players have died over the years (quite a few on the field) from heart attacks, etc. Really surprised it has not happened more.................
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It is pretty amazing more haven't died. There have been some vicious hits that you would think by the looks of it that dude ain't getting up, ever......
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Sporty
Have you ever played the game?
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Loved playing football growing up. Got my clock cleaned more than once.....
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When you look back at it with our luck we should have ended up with Trey Lance , Zach Wilson , or Mac Jones.
Following in the Grossman, Trubisky tradition.
For the first time in years we have a QB worth building around.
It takes some getting used to,
OFFENSIVE LINE ... gimme two!
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When you look back at it with our luck we should have ended up with Trey Lance , Zach Wilson , or Mac Jones.
Following in the Grossman, Trubisky tradition.
For the first time in years we have a QB worth building around.
It takes some getting used to,
OFFENSIVE LINE ... gimme two!
Yeah I’m am really happy with his progress especially considering how little talent there is around him.
Adding 2 linemen and 2 receivers will go a long way.
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2 at a minimum. I wouldnt mind 3. Mustifer is a must go. Need a RT, and possibly one OG. Not sure Braxton Jones is a legit LT.
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For the first time in years we have a QB worth building around.
You need your glasses adjusted. I dont see that.
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2 at a minimum. I wouldnt mind 3. Mustifer is a must go. Need a RT, and possibly one OG. Not sure Braxton Jones is a legit LT.
Yeah he’s good overall but succeptible to the bull rush. Tom Thayer says he’s the real deal and just needs the off season weight training to get stronger. Poles will make the right evaluation.
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Lovie goes for 2 and the Texans convert, and they lead 32-31 with :20 left…
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I really hope Lovie looked up at the owner’s box and flipped him off before going for 2 and the win…
The Texans owner doesn’t look very happy.
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Texans win!
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Wow 1st overall and we don’t need a qb. This could be a legendary draft.
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I hope legendary in a good way..
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Who would give us what for the first overall ?
Any ideas ? Not taking anything less then 2 first rounders ++.
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Who would give us what for the first overall ?
Any ideas ? Not taking anything less then 2 first rounders ++.
Think of all the teams wanting or absolutely must get a quarterback. They can go for a guy like Jimmy Garappolo or look to the draft.
Jets, Raiders, Commanders, Texans, Giants, Colts, Panthers, Dolphins, Bucs, Falcons, Titans, maybe Seahawks?
If they don’t have enough picks to offer maybe young players in a package.
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Dak Prescott throws what would have been a pick six but the DB drops the ball.
Next play he throws a pick six.
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All in typical Dallas fashion..
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What do the Chicago Bears do when they absolutely positively rule the offseason in every aspect ?
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JJ has entirely drank the Koolaid, gone to the cabinet-made some more- and then drank that down as well.....and is on the way to making more
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What do the Chicago Bears do when they absolutely positively rule the offseason in every aspect ?
They flub it, like they always do. They havent had a good draft since they drafted Butkus and the Kansas comet
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With all due respect to Butkus and Sayers the Bears '83 draft was the base for an NFL Champion.
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Perhaps, however Butkus and Sayers are both HOFers. And the Sayers knee injury ruined his remaining time in the NFL
Furthermore, that year the Bears had 2 #1's and didnt flub either, which is still a record
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I guess I have to list the members of the '83 class for you that were part of that Super Bowl team:
1 Jimbo Covert
1 Willie Gault
2 Mike Richardson
3 Dave Duerson
4 Tom Thayer
4 Pat Dunsmore
8 Richard Dent
8 Mark Bortz
Covert and Dent are in the Hall of Fame too. So the Bears HAVE had good drafts since 1965. In fact, the Urlacher draft was pretty good too. He made the HOF too. And Mike Brown was in that draft.
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One other note on the Roquan - the 5th Rd pick that was traded to CHI (w/ the 2nd) was listed as Conditional on the NFL’s transaction report. Not sure what the conditions were, but given that he made the Pro Bowl & has now signed an ext, I’d have to think the conditions were met.
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Purdy from SF is amazing. Think he could take them pretty far in the playoffs.
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He sure is good, especially when he has all day to throw to great receivers who are wide open.
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Yeah actually a lot of his throws were under pressure and on the run, but sure.....all day....he made plays when it counts which is what a QB is supposed to do....
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That’s correct, not saying it isn’t, just that it’s nice on third and long to see Samuel or Kittle wide open.
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Did you see the Cowboys kicker Maher miss 4 XPs last night? It happens to the best of them.
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Did you see the Cowboys kicker Maher miss 4 XPs last night? It happens to the best of them.
At least it didn't happen to us.
Oh wait yes it did ...
double doink !!
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I guess I was wrong. That loser Hackett going to the Jets can only mean one thing.
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We can only hope. I'd like another chance for the Bears to beat Rodgers but not with the current Bears team.
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We can only hope. I'd like another chance for the Bears to beat Rodgers but not with the current Bears team.
Next team starts on March 15th. Poles has one chance to get this right.
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We need a miracle, a Vainisi type of draft. We have money, but I am not interested in blowing the wad on some has been. Get Fields some protection, rest I spend on defense...
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Jim Finks.
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There ya go. That's the person..
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It would be nice if after the dust settles we could make a reference of Poles and Finks in the same sentence as a positive. ;D
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.. and not as someone who successfully turned the Bears around before a McCaksey fires him.....
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I read this one about a Bears QB backup to Fields , Marcus Mariota.
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I'm predicting the Pro Bowl flag football game between Pro Bowl players will be the best we've ever seen. Where do you go from up?
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... And they already have a reffing controversy on when a QB can run at that game. You can't make this stuff up.....
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I came across that sh!t.. They don't don't even wear a helmet.. Who the fukk would watch sh!t like that...
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They just might as well have a dance-off (oh wait, a toe might get dislocated). Seriously, it all sounds fun until someone gets hurt :D
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Man this sucks. Flores a great defensive coordinator.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35603880/source-brian-flores-vikings-defensive-coordinator
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Nice:
When Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers becomes the Prince of (Four Days of) Darkness, there’s apparently one less decision for him to make.
Bob McGinn, who has covered the Packers for decades, said in a podcast with Tyler Dunne of GoLongTD.com that the team is ready to move on from Rodgers.
“They are done with Rodgers,” McGinn said, citing his own instincts, his knowledge of the league, and “discussions with someone who [has] first-hand knowledge” of the Packers. “He’s not coming back. I mean, they’re disgusted with him, and they’re done with him. And they’re moving on.”
McGinn added that he’s “totally convinced” Rodgers won’t be back as the starter.
Boosting the belief that Rodgers will be gone, as McGinn explained it, is that the team fully believes in Jordan Love, and that the team is ready to turn the page after trading up and making Love a first-round pick in 2020.
McGinn predicts that, if Rodgers does insist on returning, he’ll be the backup to Love.
And it’s not just one person. McGinn said the entire power structure is done with Rodgers: CEO Mark Murphy, G.M. Brian Gutekunst, and coach Matt LaFleur. They think he’s not working hard anymore. They think he showed up for 2022 not in the best possible shape, and that he blew off the offseason program.
It’s a strong statement, and a compelling take. It also sets the stage for an awkward parting, with a trade inevitable — if McGinn’s report is accurate.
The situation should make it harder for the Packers to dictate terms. They reportedly want to send him to an AFC team, like they did with Brett Favre 15 years ago. Ultimately, they may have to trade him to the one team he’d want to play for, even if it’s an NFC team.
However it goes, it could indeed be that Rodgers is going. Last year, he considered walking away and decided to stay. This year, the Packers are ready to tell him to get gone.
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Someone said if AR comes out of his isolation and sees his shadow, its another 9 months of his bullshit..... :D
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I believe that they'll kiss and make up, and he'll be back for one more season. It will be far worse than this past season for the Pack. Then there will be choice but to unload rodgers. We've seen the last of a dominant Packers team. At least for the next couple of years.
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Someone said if AR comes out of his isolation and sees his shadow, its another 9 months of his bullshit..... :D
LOL
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If we do F.A. and the draft every bit as good as we can then I want Aaron Rodgers back at helm of the pack for payback.
That much is owed us.
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I believe that they'll kiss and make up, and he'll be back for one more season. It will be far worse than this past season for the Pack. Then there will be choice but to unload rodgers. We've seen the last of a dominant Packers team. At least for the next couple of years.
Predicting the demise of Rodgers - I've seen these posts for years and years. What is Rodgers now...almost 40? Maybe you guys will be right this time.
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Until now, I don't think I've predicting much of anything with Rodgers. I don't see the Pack being the team that they were a couple of years ago. I guess they could be like some of the other teams and make a miraculous turnaround.. We'll see..
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Rodgers played with a makeshift O-line and rookie wide receivers after losing arguably the best WR in the game. They won I don't know how many games in a row at the end and were one win away from making the playoffs.
With him and Brady 40 is the new 30.
Packers are not the same team they were a couple years ago but right now their talent is superior than the Bears. We'll see what happens with the draft and free agency to possibly change that.
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'99.9 percent' likelihood that the Commanders franchise Daron Payne (https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/22/there-is-a-99-9-percent-chance-that-washington-commanders-franchise-tag-daron-payne-nfl-free-agency/)
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Now thats no shock. That just further makes my draft belief more realistic. We need that 3 technique to be our #1 pick. Its my opinion that we have no margin for error either because Phoenix sits @ #3. Phoenix needs defense, not a QB
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And what if Bears are able to sign the FA DT out of Denver? Would you still draft Carter?
I know what Poles would do. He wouldn't care who we signed and draft the highest rated (hopefully non-QB) on the board.
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And what if Bears are able to sign the FA DT out of Denver? Would you still draft Carter?
I know what Poles would do. He wouldn't care who we signed and draft the highest rated (hopefully non-QB) on the board.
What DT out of Denver? Is he a 3 technique that we need or is he an ordinary POS? At this point not knowing details, I doubt I get off the Carter bandwagon.
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Dremont Jones is Denver's 3-4 DE that projects to 3 technique. The ordinary POS had 6.5 sacks last season over 13 games (22 sacks in 4 years there). The only drawback is he's 6-3 281, but played DT his first year in Denver.
Not in the same class as Payne but a consolation prize that would significantly upgrade the Bears D-line.
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The odds for a superbowl repeat just went WAY down:
Matt Nagy is once again the offensive coordinator of the Chiefs.
The Chiefs announced that Nagy will be taking over the job vacated by Eric Bieniemy’s departure for Washington. Nagy held the same position in 2016 and 2017 before being hired as the head coach of the Bears and he was seen as the likeliest candidate to take over the role.
Nagy was fired in Chicago after the 2021 season and returned to the Chiefs a short time later. He had the titles of quarterbacks coach and senior assistant during the 2022 season.
There was no word of interviews for the job after Bieniemy left for the Commanders, but the Rooney Rule mandates that teams interview at least one external minority candidate for coordinator positions so the Chiefs either kept their conversations private or will be hearing from the NFL.
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Yeah, Nagy couldn't make Chicago a consistent winner with Trubisky at QB. Neither did Tomlin.
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Nagy's first season Tru looked like the real deal. Isn't that the year of the doink? The second year not so much, what was the difference?
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When I say the real deal, I'm saying he looked like he could man the position..
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Andy Reid will call the plays...will not matter if Nagy OC.
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Thats what I thought. Its just a title. Reid does the play calling
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Nagy's first season Tru looked like the real deal. Isn't that the year of the doink? The second year not so much, what was the difference?
In 2018, the year Trubisky made the pro-bowl and the Bears the playoff Trubisky had a 95 rating with 24 TDs and 12 picks. Completed 66.7% in 14 games
In 2020, his last year. Trubisky had a 93 rating with 16 TDs and 8 picks. Completed 67% in 10 games.
Trubisky's problem was that he's an average QB - he wasn't elite.
Justin Fields last year had an 85 rating which is below average. Couple that with his running and he's about average.
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To start with, Trubisky was using his legs. Something changed. Tru has digressed since his time with the Bears. I watched a Steelers game where he came in and looked good for about 5 or 6 plays, then the wheels came off. Another bumbled draft pick...
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Five potential players in trading up.
Texans
Indy
Raiduhs
Falcons
Panthers
What do we get in return ?
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Better be good..
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Five potential players in trading up.
Texans
Indy
Raiduhs
Falcons
Panthers
What do we get in return ?
I really hold out hope that we get another number 1 out of next years draft. At the sake of mega cashing in this year. My question would be, which of those 5 teams do we think will be the worst after this year? I think that knocks the Panthers out in my book. I would probably be conservative, and trade down with the Colts. Take the BPA at 4 (hopefully Carter), whatever other compensation we can get this year, and next year's 1. And bet on the Colts to suck.
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Cleveland tossed how many first rounders for Watson ?
Denver tossed how many first rounders for Russell ?
Frisco tossed how many first rounders for Lance ?
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Marcus Mariota released by Atlanta.
Saw somewhere that he would be a good fit with Justin Fields.
Similar styles.
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I'd take him as a backup..
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
Source: The #Broncos are giving RT Mike McGlinchey a massive 5 year deal worth $87.5M with over $50M guaranteed.
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@AdamSchefter
Former Eagles’ DT Javon Hargrave has reached agreement on a four-year, $84 million deal that includes $40m guaranteed at signing with the SF 49ers, per sources. Deal negotiated and confirmed by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
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Panthers are saying Matt Corral is available, and it wouldn’t take much to get him.
Bears should bring him in as our #2.
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@MikeGarafolo
The #Raiders are closing in on a deal with QB Jimmy Garoppolo, sources say. After six seasons and a Super Bowl appearance with the #49ers, Jimmy G is on his way to Vegas, the site of this season’s Super Bowl, to reunite with Josh McDaniels.
12:46 PM · Mar 13, 2023
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So the Raiders likely won’t be going QB…
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I would think that Denver is not exactly swimming in cap space with Wilson. I think the Walton family is on a fuckacap shopping spree because of the lack of draft picks, 6 total picks no higher than 3rd.
@AdamSchefter
Denver is giving former Ravens’ guard Ben Powers a 4-year, $52 million deal that includes $28.5 million guaranteed, per source.
11:52 AM · Mar 13, 2023
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Jawaan Taylor RT now gone too.
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4 yr/$80/$60 gtd. Welp RT will be drafted I suppose.
I suppose Orlando Brown would be seeking $70 gtd
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Yeah these guys are getting too much for RT.
It’s not hard to upgrade from Borom/Reif.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/commanders-reportedly-reach-90m-deal-with-franchise-tagged-dt-daron-payne-200542923.html
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/11/youtube-rolls-out-sunday-ticket-for-full-season-price-as-low-as-249/
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That’s 249 if you sign up early, and are a youtubeTV subscriber…otherwise, it’s 349 or more…
I’m seeing a lot of BWW Sundays this fall…mostly out of principle…
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/11/youtube-rolls-out-sunday-ticket-for-full-season-price-as-low-as-249/
Guess I need to start the process of ditching the dish and getting on Youtube. I don't always watch games live and I frequently slow-mo the games and fast forward through the commercials and commentary between plays. I wonder if I can save the games on some sort of disk. I would assume if that's possible without a DVR that would be in the cloud somewhere?
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I used NFL+ last year, watched Redzone all day and the Bears games on replay (usually within a couple hours of the end of the game itself) depending on whether I want to see the Sunday matchup or not. And how much beer I swilled (quite a bit last year, probably tone it down from here on out)....
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I used NFL+ last year, watched Redzone all day and the Bears games on replay (usually within a couple hours of the end of the game itself) depending on whether I want to see the Sunday matchup or not. And how much beer I swilled (quite a bit last year, probably tone it down from here on out)....
I’ve had NFL packages free on Direct tv free the last two years.
So I take it NFL+ I can watch the Bears out of market shortly after the game ends?
Only $10 for the season?
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I think its like $40 now for the season. Games usually are available a couple hours after they air (Monday/Sunday games for some reason seem to take a little longer)....
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You can also buy a VPN subscription and "trick" NFL+ to think you're in the Chicagoland area.
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NFL+ website says 9.99 to reply all games for the season.
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No matter 40 isn’t bad either
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You can also buy a VPN subscription and "trick" NFL+ to think you're in the Chicagoland area.
People seem to think this won’t be an option anymore…supposedly Google is good at catching this.
Other comments mentioned both the Canadian and European versions of the Ticket…again, not sure if your IP has to correspond to each country’s IP range, or if you need an overseas address on your credit card, or whatever…
And then, of course, there are several pirate streams…
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You can also buy a VPN subscription and "trick" NFL+ to think you're in the Chicagoland area.
Excellent suggestion, here is a great VPN service at a decent price imo.
https://nordvpn.com/
2 years for 89 dollars.
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People seem to think this won’t be an option anymore…supposedly Google is good at catching this.
Other comments mentioned both the Canadian and European versions of the Ticket…again, not sure if your IP has to correspond to each country’s IP range, or if you need an overseas address on your credit card, or whatever…
And then, of course, there are several pirate streams…
I think Jeff means use a US based VPN, and a node based in the US that is outside your market. Google currently cant figure it out, when I use my VPN i am often asked if i just logged in from Arizona/NM/Cali/Alaska.... and i say yes and it lets me into my email and other services. If they knew it was VPN masking they wouldn't bother with the same questions, they would just let me in. It will be an interesting experiment, and I'll likely try it and report back.
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Yeah, I just went back and looked, and I misread Jeff’s post…I was on a Teams call at the same time, so I’ll blame that…
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So curious, my wife and I are fans of different teams. She's a Buc's fan, and often we are watching at different locations. We have some property that I have set up, has its own wifi... would I need two subscriptions? One for home and one for the other property or will the single sign in to Youtube allow us both access? We only had one directv subscription, and I just take a box with me when I have watched games.
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NFL+ website says 9.99 to reply all games for the season.
I think you need the premium to replay games as I recall.
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NFL+ website says 9.99 to reply all games for the season.
Isn't that a month?
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It says watch full and condensed replays $9.99/season.
I didn’t read everything to see if there’s a catch so I’m taking anyone’s word for it.
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Yeah think that's by month.
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That’s ok still more reasonable than $400
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So curious, my wife and I are fans of different teams. She's a Buc's fan, and often we are watching at different locations. We have some property that I have set up, has its own wifi... would I need two subscriptions? One for home and one for the other property or will the single sign in to Youtube allow us both access? We only had one directv subscription, and I just take a box with me when I have watched games.
I think YouTube TV base plan has 6 household accounts and supports 3 simultaneous streams. Unlimited simultaneous streams with premium plans. It is web-based so you can watch from anywhere they claim. Oh and unlimited DVR cloud based and every account (6 per household)gets their own library.
YouTube TV works anywhere you have internet access in the US, with live TV offered in markets where YouTube TV is available. Your access to local networks will vary depending on which zip code you're in. Sign in from home at least once every 3 months to keep your account active. You won’t be able to access any programs on YouTube TV, live or recorded, while traveling internationally.
If you’d like to watch YouTube TV while traveling without internet access, our 4K Plus add-on allows you to save recordings from your Library to your phone or tablet so you can watch offline (some device and content restrictions apply).
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The only thing keeping me from ditching DTV now is that for some reason I am still getting Marquee and all the cubs games for free without the MLB package. :)
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I get the MLB package for free with my T-mobile. I get Hulu free as well. I've been streaming for years. You should be able to watch the same content anywhere in the country that you get at home.. We have a place at the beach, we watch all the same stuff there as we do at home, no extra money. Been years later and I'm still doing the snoopy dance over getting rid of Direct-TV..
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Doesn't it stand to reason that the NFL was making gobs of money before there was cable , satellite , internet ?
So why are we paying money for any of it ?
Wasn't that what commercials were all about to keep the airwaves free ?
Except now you still have commercials but are paying for them.
GOTCHA !! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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It's called greed..
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The only thing keeping me from ditching DTV now is that for some reason I am still getting Marquee and all the cubs games for free without the MLB package. :)
Same, I am not saying anything!
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Dumped it, put up the antenna, streaming, I’ll YouTube the highlights, if they start playing ok,
Been suckered too many times, and don’t forget, A Aron hasn’t gone anywhere.
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I did the same thing some years ago, I get about twenty channels on my antenna. I stream everything else. Where they fukk ya, is you have to have internet.. I pay a hundred bucks a month for that.. I need to revisit everything. I have sling, they used to be reasonable, they've gotten expensive.. Plus, too much free sh!t out there..
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Same, I am not saying anything!
I am surprised some dicks hasn't spoken up yet and ruined it for everyone. Second year and keeping my fingers crossed.
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That's like when I had Dish. They gave me a choice of fox channels. Well of course I picked the Chicago fox, got all the Bears games (that were televised on fox). Then a Florida judge put an end to that sh!t.. I had it for at least 5 years...
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Rodgers is a Jet.
Jets get Rodgers, 2023 1st rounder (15), 2023 5th rounder (170).
Packers get 2023 1st rounder (13), 2023 2nd rounder (42), 2023 6th rounder (207), and a conditional 2024 2nd rounder that becomes a 1st rounder if Rodgers plays 65% of the team plays.
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Rodgers will wear #8 in NYC as a show of respect to Joe Namath.
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/finally-packers-reportedly-complete-trade-to-send-qb-aaron-rodgers-to-jets-202126101.html
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Aaron Rodgers has been in as many superbowls as Rex Grossman. LOL. Never has so little been done with so much QB talent. First Favre, then ARon. You'd think they would have more superbowl trophies....
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Aaron Rodgers has been in as many superbowls as Rex Grossman. LOL. Never has so little been done with so much QB talent. First Favre, then ARon. You'd think they would have more superbowl trophies....
B4E
Has it ever occurred to you that only they think they are good?
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Good point.... :D
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Its like someone told me "Aaron Rodgers retires from professional football and decides to play QB for the Jets" (might have been an Onion headline or some such)....
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Gonna get interesting ...
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Ari Meirov
@MySportsUpdate
All the NFL games revealed so far today:
Week 4: Falcons vs Jaguars (London)
Week 5: Jaguars vs Bills (London)
Week 6: Ravens vs Titans (London)
Week 9: Dolphins vs Chiefs (Germany)
Week 10: Colts vs Patriots (Germany)
Week 12: Dolphins at Jets (Black Friday)
Week 16: Giants at Eagles (Christmas Day)
Week 17: Bengals at Chiefs (New Year's Eve)
8:15 AM · May 10, 2023
No Bears overseas...good
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Its got to suck if you're a season ticket holder and one of your team's games is overseas. Greed greed greed. What's next...18 game schedules? Maybe they could expand the playoffseven more like hockey and basketball.
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So the JETS get 10 primetime games? WTF? I would hate that as a fan.
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Good Grief. Just doesnt interest me to see Rodgers 10 times. The anoying point is NYC is number one. Its like having to watch "Skankee" games on TV. Miserable!
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Good Grief. Just doesnt interest me to see Rodgers 10 times. The anoying point is NYC is number one. Its like having to watch "Skankee" games on TV. Miserable!
Who's Rodgers ?
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Who's Rodgers ?
He's the guy thats owned the Bears for about a decade or so.
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The guy loved playing in Chicago more than Green Bay..
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The guy loved playing in Chicago more than Green Bay..
He's over with.
Our turn.
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The Panthers have officially named Bryce Young their starter.
I’m hoping for 1-16.
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Unfortunately, the NFC South is a pile of sh!t. I think Dalton will start a few because I find it hard to believe Young starts 17 clean.
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Matt Corral needs a trade out of that clown car.
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ESPN commentators are crying all day every day because Saquan Barkley will only make $11 million this year.
98% of fans have no sympathy.
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The value of RB has drastically dropped because the passing game in the NFL is king right now.
Until teams start getting back to old school run the ball, play great Defense and control the clock type offenses and prove they can beat the pass happy offenses then the RB value will continue to go down. Right now OL might me more valuable then RBs in the league.
The other problem is that the Franchise tag for RBs is dropping but the NFLPA isn't going to do anything about it because that only affects a few players in the league.
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The new rules favor the passing game so running is now complementary. Also teams are finding good backs in the later rounds and since they have short careers why not change every 4-5 years.
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I remember back in the 80's they were starting to say that the TE was becoming obsolete. Everything is cyclical (or is that cynical ? :D)
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Well you don't have to worry about the Bears giving up cap and draft picks to the Vikings to sign Danielle Hunter. He signed a 1 year $20M deal with the Vikes.
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Salaries are ridiculous. No one person is worth that. The sports machine as we know it will one day implode. All the money ultimately comes from the consumer, one way or another. At some point, the consumer will be tapped out...
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With a good defense, there is room for the old grind it out football (running the ball). Unfortunately, I don't feel good about our D...
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Salaries are ridiculous. No one person is worth that. The sports machine as we know it will one day implode. All the money ultimately comes from the consumer, one way or another. At some point, the consumer will be tapped out...
Yes, salaries are ridiculous in all sports. But the NFL knows they have a desirable product and will continue to do whatever it takes to squeeze every last disposable dollar out of the consumer.
The only way football implodes is if they turn the game into what we've seen from the Pro Bowl recently - flag football.
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And seem to be trying to do just that, unfortunately.....
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Hall of Fame game on NBC tonite. 5:00 PST.
Jets vs. Browns.
Well at least its NFL football and we get to see Rodgers in a Jets uniform.
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...but on the sidelines.
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Its football-like anyway. :D I'll take it.....
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Watching Trey Lance and Zach Wilson crash and burn makes you wonder again WTH were they thinking in the draft.
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Read an interesting rumor (https://twitter.com/NFLNotify/status/1690892582698799104) re: WTH Shanny was thinking and that Lynch actually preferred Fields. True or not, I am glad Fields is a Bear.
What can be confirmed (https://www.knbr.com/2021/05/26/john-lynch-reveals-how-49ers-draft-process-led-them-to-trey-lance/) by Lynch is that right after Fields workout, Shanahan was on the plane drawing up plays for his guy Lance. Kinda sounds like Pace zeroing in on Mitch no matter what. Or the Jets GM allowing his former assistant and OC to convince (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35602882/why-zach-wilson-new-york-jets-career-taken-off) him to draft Wilson over the objection of the scouts who saw him as purely a developmental project.
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Saw 'Shanny' and the first thing that came to mind was Wanny (shudder)
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Watching Trey Lance and Zach Wilson crash and burn makes you wonder again WTH were they thinking in the draft.
Trey Lance was REVENGE for Frisco (Lynch) suckering Halas Hall to take Mitchell Trubinsky.
Payback comes around and goes around.
Three draft picks giving up for that P.O.S. ?
Papa Bear smiles from on high.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/robert-quinn-is-arrested-for-hit-and-run-assault
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So far only the Eagles have the goofy "feel good" slogans on the bottom back of their helmets.
Every other team looks like they have their name there.
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Darnold beats out Lance as SF QB2.
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Incredible story at SF. Mr Irrelevant beats out 2 top 10 first round QBs. I dislike the 49ers but you have to admire Brock Purdy, who has bailed out Lynch for that crazy trade up for Trey Lance (3 first rounders and a third).
Some thought Pace gave up too much for Trubisky...but at least Trubisky started a few years and got the Bears into the playoffs.
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Purdy could always be a flash in the pan or have lingering elbow problems.
Lance should have been a developmental player from the start with few games played in a small school. What we’re they thinking. However I thought he showed promise when they played the Bears. The NFL just doesn’t give players much time.
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Purdy could always be a flash in the pan or have lingering elbow problems.
Lance should have been a developmental player from the start with few games played in a small school. What we’re they thinking. However I thought he showed promise when they played the Bears. The NFL just doesn’t give players much time.
Purdy won 6 regular season games - something like a 107 rating. Won his first 2 playoff games, then got injured aganst the Eagles where he was 4/4 passing. I don't know after that if he could regress into a pan flash.
As for the elbow, I don't know if he's completely healed. But the 49ers are exploring trades for Lance and declared Arnold as the backup - so that tells you what they think of Purdy.
Lance was erratic in PS and the other 2 especially Arnold were more polished. If the 49ers had 2 older established QBs they may have been more patient with Lance.
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I don’t necessarily disagree but there have been a number of quarterbacks good for a short time.
I wish the 9ers the worst.
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Yes I just heard the Lance/Darnold talk.
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The only reason we have Fields is because Frisco fuucked up.
Thanks Frisco !
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At the beginning of last year when the Bears played SF the story line was how great Lance is and how much of a bust Fields had been. Lance was destine for the HoF at the beginning of last year in the eyes of the media.
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Right now I am not so positive we have QB1 here already. Fields has a lot to do to move the needle upwards.
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Right now I am not so positive we have QB1 here already. Fields has a lot to do to move the needle upwards.
Halas Hall seems to be honestly trying to get the talent to keep him upright.
Not only on OL which is in it's usual state of flux but skill positions also to take the heat off.
From here on out it's counting W's and L's until 2024.
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Daurice Fountain signed with the Lions PS. He's better than EQ but whatever...
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Daurice Fountain signed with the Lions PS. He's better than EQ but whatever...
St. Brown is a veteran, familiar with the offense and an excellent blocker. He's reliable. Fountain has 2 NFL receptions over his 5 injury filled years. But I agree Fountain looked good in the PS going against practice squad guys.
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Chiefs can't move the ball. What's the reason?
a) No Kelce
b) Ferocious Lions defense
c) Matt Nagy is their offensive coordinator
d) It's c, don't be a dumbass
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Wow, the Lions beat the Chiefs...
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A combination of Nagy (https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/chiefs-matt-nagy-play-call-nfl-fans-reactions) calling plays and throwing to WRs who can't catch a cold tends to have a detrimental effect to an offense...
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No 19 for the Chiefs was the Lions MVP of the game.....
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I watched the entire game. BEFORE the game, I speculated the game was going to be close because of the Lion's defense and the missing Kelse and their defensive tackle Jones, who was in the stands watching.
It is what it is, and things that make KC tough to beat like Mahomes in a tight game with 2 minutes to go just fell apart. The Lions D stopped KC and they lost. As I have said that the Lions are going to be hard to
beat this year.. IMHO the Lions staked their claim to NFC North champions.
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No 19 for the Chiefs was the Lions MVP of the game.....
Ladarius Tony.
He’s who the Bears were projected to draft before they traded for Fields.
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His new name is Oven Mitts McButterfingers :D
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Last night you saw the effect of the salary cap on a team with several star players and a bunch of average guys. Chris Jones and Kelce were missed.
Mahomes has a solid interior O-line but the 2 tackles were dreadful. Without Kelse Mahomes could put up 20 points on a decent Lions' D throwing to a group of JAG receivers: Toney, Sky Moore, and Valdes Scalding.
Lions D is solid and Hutchinson was a monster even though the stat sheet shows 4 tackles and 3 hurries. Offenses will have to neutralize him and the other ends.
The star of the game for the Lions besides Hutchinson was the LIons' O-line. Goff is a very competent QB and can make the throws with time. David Montgomery is David Montgomery. He'll block and get the tough yards but he isn't a game breaker. That other guy Gibbs is scary.
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Agreed
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Hutchinson reminds me of Jared Allen. Non stop motor, all legs, athletic
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Well bear fans, you can point to the Giants sucking worse in their home opener.
Giants travel to AZ next week while the Bears go to TB. So, a fearless prediction.
NY 19-17 over the Cardinals
TB 26-17 over the Bears.
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A friend and his wife were at the giants game, she's a big time Dallas fan.. Bet he got laid last night...
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And the Giants sure got **** around last night as well :D
Watched a lot of games yesterday. Hell, even the Cardinals (who were a consensus worst team in the league) looked better than the Bears. Right now the bottom of the barrel are the Bears and the Giants (in that order)....
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Well, the good news after the first week is the Bears have 2 picks at the top of draft.
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boy it sure looked that way. Are Poles and Flus on hot seats yet?
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Aaron Rodgers must die. He is the epitome of evil. Satan himself reports to Rodgers.
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Floyd could have taken Rodgers out years ago when he was a bear.
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Corey Wooten ended Favre's career. Could ex-Bear Floyd do the same with Rodgers?
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The No. 9 overall pick in the 2023 NFL Draft, Carter led all NFL players on Sunday with 8 QB Pressures, 7 hurries and recorded his first regular-season sack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tuUEeGCuvo
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Bears sure could have used that Sunday...and the rest of this season....
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Agreed. Good call. However, I think its way way too early to close the door on our pick @ # 10.
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Our #1 pick had the highest PFF score on offense last week. Without him how would the line have looked?
The top five grades for Chicago Bears players who played at least 20 snaps are:
Wright (72.1)
Johnson (71.5)
D’Onta Foreman (68.5)
Khalil Herbert (65.5)
Darnell Mooney (63.8)
Justin Fields ranked ninth with a 60.9, which was primarily because of his 82.0 rushing score.
Surprisingly, left tackle Braxton Jones earned a near-elite pass-blocking grade (89.9). He was credited with only one pressure allowed. Jones’ pass-blocking grade was the highest individual score given to any Bear on offense (in any category).
As for who scored the lowest marks for Chicago’s offense, the bottom three grades belong to Cody Whitehair (47.2), Chase Claypool (43.2), and Lucas Patrick (43.2).
It’s easy to understand why the Chicago Bears offense struggled so much. Two-thirds of the interior offensive line was also two-thirds of the lowest PFF grades on offense. Not great.
As for Claypool, his prove-it year kicked isn’t off to a great start. If anything, he proved he doesn’t belong in the starting lineup. He ended Week 1 with zero catches and a shameful 31.0 run-blocking grade. He was a big reason why some of the Bears’ perimeter plays failed..
The Chicago Bears travel to Tampa Bay to face the Buccaneers in Week 2 in what’s suddenly become a more challenging game than expected. The Buccaneers upset the Minnesota Vikings in Week 1 and will provide another stiff test for the Bears’ offensive line.
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72 is league average but damn would that line have been bad without him.
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I thought Wright did OK considering it was his first NFL game and that he hardly played in the PS. The guy next to him seemed to struggle especially with the stunts. But Davis hasn't played a snap in the PS so I expect Wright and him will get better as the season goes on.
Whitehair should be our center. Bears will have to get through the next 3 games and hope Jenkins comes back and bumps Patrick to the bench.
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agree or change right guard too
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They signed Davis to a huge 4 year deal - they're not going to bench him after the first game. Especially, since he's been MIA prior to last Sunday.
But Davis was often times a turnstyle against the Pack.
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/chase-claypool-nate-davis-raise-000908304.html
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Davis was doing some stupid sh*t out there this week. Leno level stupid. He better get it together and quick or it won't matter what they gave up for him.....
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F52xMacasAAWJlr?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5weEvjbsAAOdHF?format=jpg&name=small)
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Last night's game was a case study in how an Oline can affect a game. Something the Bears geniuses claim to know but never show. All you have to do is compare the Eagles oline to the set of misfit toys the Bears keep trotting out year after year....
Tick Tock. Kevin Warren you are on the clock.....
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It was also an example of how a QB can overcome a strong pass rush. Cousins had a lot of pressure but put up 4 TDs and well over 300 yards.
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I've always not gotten those who hate Kirk Cousins. You can win with him if you give him a decent team. He's not a world beater but definitely not bottom tier either.....
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The trouble with Cousins is that the Vikes cut Cook. Now they dont have adequate running game. That doesnt sound like something thats Cousins' fault
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Dolphins have scored 70 points so far today.
First time an NFL team has done that since 1966.
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They are fun to watch, that's for sure. Anti-Bears on all fronts.....
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@NFLRookieWatxh
CJ Stroud is officially the first QB from Ohio State to throw for 380+ yards in an NFL game.
Stroud also has more 300-yard passing games than Justin Fields now.
Fields has played in 27 games, while Stroud has played in 2.
Stroud is also currently 4th in the NFL, and 2nd in the AFC is passing yards with 626.
The Buckeyes brought up a STUD 😳
9:40 PM · Sep 17, 2023
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Fields was sacked 56 times in his college career while attempting 618 passes — or once every 12.0 pass plays. I thought I heard on Hamp and OB that Stroud was sacked for half that number (https://fantasyindex.com/2023/03/30/factoid/cj-stroud) and that was with over 200 more pass attempts than Fields.
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My son goes to Texas A&M and I was able to see almost every game Devon Achane played. I liked UT's Roschon Johnson (have seen almost all of his games too), but Achane is special. Some thought he might be too small for the NFL and maybe he won't ever be a feature back. But that kid would often run between the tackles against SEC competition every Saturday and crank out tough yards as well as crank out a few long runs.
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Fields is sacked for every 4 dropbacks....insane...1-4 ratio...
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Well Lions/Packers was interesting indeed......
If I had a dollar for every time pregame and during the game they mentioned "the Packers overcame a 17 point deficit last week" I would have had a free dinner or two. They kept leaving out the important fact that they were getting boat-raced until they David Carr got injured.
It was nice to see that the mediocrity that is the new Packers was finally on full display. As a Bear fan, I definitely know what mediocre and poor football looks like :D
Its also a textbook example of what really investing well in the OL and DL (and them staying healthy) can do for you. Good for the Lions. They seem fun to watch (for the right reasons) now......
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My wife's cousin's husband is a BIG Lions fan. Cousin-in-law I guess he would be. Big family Thanksgiving dinner is always at my house. Thanksgiving this year he might go to the basement to watch the game on my huge theater size TV this year. :) I have known them since they were in High School. He was a Redskins fan until they moved away to Michigan for his job after they got our of college. I am happy for him. He is good people.
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OH man. I just looked at this Thanksgiving lineup. Packers @ Lions. Then Commanders @ Dallas. The rest of her family will be in the basement watching that second game. Her 92 year old Grandad will be front and center in the theater recliner. Should be a great football day this year with good food.
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I'm rooting for the Lions. Their fans have waited incredibly long for a decent team that might actually be IN the playoffs.
How big a 'theatre sized TV' you got, Bill?
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I watch the game from the implant the NFL put in my brain 2 years ago.
Everything is seen from the point of view of the QB on the field.
Anybody else have this ?
TV ? What do you need tv for ?
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YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED !
How do we know all we see is not real anyway ? Blue pill or Red pill ?
Either way the Bears still suck at the present moment (whenever and wherever that moment really is)...... :D
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This ESPN+ stuff sucks anyway. Hope it dies a screaming death as they have cut potential viewership at least by half or not more. At least its not a primo game matchup......
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I’m watching the Toy Story version of the game…
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What are your impressions ? (Don't say I don't do impressions :D)
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So far Vikings 21 Panthers 13. Think draft pick.
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It's over. Carolina is 0-4.
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It's over. Carolina is 0-4.
Works in our favor.
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Nothing works in our favor even if it looks like it works in our favor....Bears will find a way to overcome and destroy the hope...
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I can’t imagine any of the top 3-4 quarterbacks will accept being drafted by the Bears. For sure Williams would demand a trade or stay in school.
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How big a 'theatre sized TV' you got, Bill?
90 inch 4K.
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Khalil Mack has 6 Sacks so far in this game. The single game record is 7. Still time for him to get it.
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Do we allow Poles to have another draft? I am at the point I want them all fired.
What is everyone else's opinion?
We are more than likely going to have two top 5 picks. Might even have the first and second pick in the entire draft.
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The entire bunch is a disgrace.
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Not "just" the 6 sacks...
@AdamHoge
Khalil Mack has 6 sacks, 5 TFLs, 4 QB hits and 2 forced fumbles…
TODAY.
5:58 PM · Oct 1, 2023
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I guess you always have a high risk of failure with a rookie GM and rookie coaches.
The successful coaches now mostly have an offense background.
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Gipson (https://twitter.com/JustinM_NFL/status/1708560373245194328) had a strip sack against Burrow. He had a productive preseason, but the Bears didn't need him. They needed an end with more run support...
Per PFF, Roquan highest rated ILB and Mustipher 2nd highest rated pass blocking center.
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Thats sick on Mustipher. Absolutely worst Center I've ever seen play.
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Gipson is a solid player - not special. But he's better than Green and Robinson. But his contract wasn't.
Mustipher is filling in the last 2 games for starter Tyler Linderbaum the Ravens #1 draft choice of 2022.
I wasn't against the Roquan Smith trade but Terrell Edmunds is not impressing me. He makes a lot of his tackles 5 or more yards beyond the LoS.
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Lions helping us with win over Panthers.
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Justin Jefferson out with a hammy.
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What fan base do you want to see crying tonight, 9ers or cowboys?
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Cowgirls for sure
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Cowboys spanked!
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Cowboys finally played a real team and got punked. About time.....
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Did you notice how much time Brock Purdy has when he goes back to throw? Not taking anything away from him but he's also playing with quite a 4-some of skill players in George Kittle, Brandon Aiyuk, Deebo Samuel and Christian McCaffrey.
Looks like its going to be a rematch in the NFC again between the 49ers and Eagles.
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Yeah the table is really set for Purdy. Like Collinworth said he just has to throw to the right spot at the right time.
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A lot of QBs have trouble with that :D
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Sure do.
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Justin Fields ... monkey wrench ?
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Any thoughts on Frank Clark. He is supposedly a pass rushing OLB. Could he provide some push as a DE? Apparently he isn’t working out in Denver. I’m all for building through the draft and not artificially inflating our wins with rental players but I wonder if he has anything left in the tank?
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Nav
I'd pass.
Meanwhile ...
GEORGE HALAS was voted MVP of the 1919 ROSEBOWL.
He played for GREAT LAKES NAVAL BASE defeating MARE ISLAND MARINES.
17-0.
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Please allow me to predict the future. Patriots lose out. Panthers and Bears luck into a couple more wins each.
Patriots draft Caleb Williams and essentially repeat the Brady era.
Bears draft two HOF players, but Tyson Bagent becomes his generation's Case Keenum.
Bears never advance beyond the conference semifinals, losing multiple times to Bryce Young's Panthers. Young goes Eli on the Patriots a couple of times.
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Is there a bigger and more worthless **** than Mike McCarthy?
Discuss.
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He fires Kellen Moore because the offense scored too quickly.
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@JFowlerESPN
NFL approved proposal to hold all in-person head coach interviews after conclusion of divisional playoff games, effective this season, “in an effort to create a more level playing field for HC candidates.”
Internal candidates and college coaches exempt. Does not apply to GMs.
4:29 PM · Oct 17, 2023
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Vikings lead the 49ers 7-0 in the second quarter.
The NFL is awesome but, at the same time, pisses me off.
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10-7. **** bullshit.
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**** Texans.
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The Chiefs lost to the Broncos..LOL!!
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**** Texans.
The Texans already gifted us once, lol. Actually, if we lose to the Panthers, we can't make our draft position any worse.
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@AdamSchefter
Sources: Raiders fired HC Josh McDaniels and GM Dave Ziegler.
12:01 AM · Nov 1, 2023
They tabbed their LB coach as interim HC. Former Bears exec (Director of pro scouting, Assistant director of player personnel) Champ Kelly takes over as interim GM.
IMO, if the Bears beat the Chargers, Staley would have been launched. The sooner Eberboob and Getsy are gone the better. Hightower can take over for all I care.
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It's so Chicago to rag on the head coach during a bad season.
But look at what Eberflus has talent-wise. Worst front 4 in the league. Some talent on the O-line but its been injured. How many games has Nate Davis played? Braxton Jones? Tevin Jenkins? Defensive backfield has been without Jackson almost the entire season. JJ and Gordon have missed numerous games. Now Brisker is in the concussion protocol. Last week our starting safeties were undrafted FA types.
And Justin Fields isn't the most consistent QB in the league either. '
I have no allegiance to Eberflus and don't care if he's retained or not but aside from Denver this team's talent was inferior to every team that beat them.
Bears won 3 games last year - I suspect they'll win 5 maybe 6 this year. is that enough for Eberflus to keep his job?
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Lack of correcting issues....multiple penalties per game.....bad play calling....despite being a D coach, being unable to get much from the D. This team is showing no improvement. I am 100% behind launching Flub and crew.....
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I'm all for launching them now, But I don't think the owners care. There's a huge waiting list for season tickets, and as long as they have that and the massive NFL cut , why change?
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Disagree. How many head coaches have come through Chicago as of late? Fox, Trestman, Nagy and Eberflus. Ownership seems to be aware of the fans disallusionment with the coaching.
Season's not over but there could be some assistants sacrificed while Eberflus is retained.
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I would make this a 9 game interview for Getsy. Forget the system that Rodgers ran that you got to be QB coach for. Show us you can design and sustain a system around Fields that plays to his strengths. Did the system get tweaked against Denver and Washington? Were changes made to the Vikings game plan after that success? Actually the Vikings defense had sucssess against the 49ers one week later, but I want to know if they adjusted the game plan, or if the Vikings were just better. And Fields may have gotten into a rhythm later in that game, unfortunately, we won't know that.
I want to see what Getsy has the next games, and show me that there is a plan for Bagent and a different plan for Fields.
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I have no allegiance to Eberflus and don't care if he's retained or not but aside from Denver this team's talent was inferior to every team that beat them.
Bears won 3 games last year - I suspect they'll win 5 maybe 6 this year. is that enough for Eberflus to keep his job?
Actually that is how I feel about Poles right now. I don't care one way or another and I can understand the pros and cons of keeping him.
But what if Eberflus somehow doubles his win total from last year and Poles/Warren agree on retaining him. I find it hard to believe any Bears fan can at best stay neutral on that move.
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I'd like to see them use both Bagent and Fields in a way similar to the Saints dueling QBs with Derek Carr and Taysom Hill
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I'd like to see them use both Bagent and Fields in a way similar to the Saints dueling QBs with Derek Carr and Taysom Hill
No thank you.
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Actually that is how I feel about Poles right now. I don't care one way or another and I can understand the pros and cons of keeping him.
But what if Eberflus somehow doubles his win total from last year and Poles/Warren agree on retaining him. I find it hard to believe any Bears fan can at best stay neutral on that move.
What don't you like about Poles. His 2022 draft was OK - didn't have a first rounder. Gordon and Brisker are solid. If Braxton Jones can get back on the field and produce it would make this draft an A- B+. 2023 draft was aided by Houston winning that last game which added DJ Moore and a 2024 #1. The '23 draft was better with several starters and several rotational guys that could end up starters next season.
Free agency has been OK - Edmunds is so-so. I like Edwards, Sanborn, Bagent and Ngakoue has been a bit of a disappointment but he's on a 1 year deal, as has Nate Davis but more because of his unavailability.
I think he's drafted better than Pace, Emery and Angelo.
What should he have done differently besides the Claypool trade?
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From the presser it did not sound like the dreaded "vote of confidence"- Poles seems to really believe what he said.....
And if he is living in that unreal world along with Everlose, he has to go as well (and maybe they are a paired couple).....
Culture is "wonderful". Sheesh......
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Sunday Night Football - two hopeless franchises desperate to reach the heights of the Chicago Bears. Scary **** ****, my friends.
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What don't you like about Poles. What should he have done differently besides the Claypool trade?
Put a bullet in Eberflus' head. Put the loaded revolver into his own mouth and pulled the **** trigger.
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Cleveland on the road beat Baltimore.
That's important.
Things aren't swinging into place as expected.
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Ken Dorsey got fired. Another reason why the Bears should go offense with HC. Either the OC is good and becomes HC or the OC blows and become a scapegoat while the QB development hits a speed bump. It will be interesting to see how Detroit and Houston handles their play calling duties when they lose their whiz kids in the next hiring cycle.
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Ken Dorsey got fired. Another reason why the Bears should go offense with HC. Either the OC is good and becomes HC or the OC blows and become a scapegoat while the QB development hits a speed bump. It will be interesting to see how Detroit and Houston handles their play calling duties when they lose their whiz kids in the next hiring cycle.
I didn't understand the Dorsey firing at all , they were 18-8 with him.
Lets make the Lions OC an offer he can't refuse. ;)
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Per PFT, KC has failed to score in the second half in 3 straight games. They average just over 5 points a game in the second half for the season including only 7 points against Chicago. Mahomes adores Nagy and all. But I wonder when Reid quietly snags the Dennys menu away from him. The last time Nagy supposedly called a playoff game for KC it ended in a 2nd half scoreless choke at home. IIRC, Reid took the fall while Nagy booked the next flight to Chicago for an interview with Pace.
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Nagy....not a good OC?? Say it ain't so!.....
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They have dropped a lot of passes of late and it was wet last night. But you cannot discount the Nagy factor.....
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@CFCBears
The Steelers are 6-4 and fired their OC due to poor performance. Meanwhile the Bears are 6-22 over the last 2 years and haven’t fired anyone that hasn’t involved HR intervention
7:52 AM · Nov 21, 2023
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Why are we still fans of this miserable team?? They certainly don't seem to be focused on winning anytime soon. Everyday it's another pathetic record broken or some story telling us how inept our team is or how incapable they are at managing staff or a myriad other things, for way too long now. I know I'm caring much less than I used to, simply for sanity sake....
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Yeah I enjoy the wins and shrug off the losses because they’re expected.
I remember my dad stopped watching the last few years of his life after watching about 60 years. Now I’m understanding why.
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Yep, not the same as it used to be.. Constant disappointment will do this... Year after year after year...
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38951659/tom-brady-bemoans-nfl-play-says-there-lot-mediocrity
I think Brady is right. I don't believe the quality of player is the same coming out of college today as it was 20 yrs ago and I certainly don't believe the quality of play at the NFL level matches anything from the 90s. You look back then at teams like the Cowboys and the 9ers, both loaded with top quality players and lights out defenses and offenses. And I think certainly the rules changes have made things much worse. As for our team, you see how they constantly attempt to tackle with their shoulders instead of wrapping a guy up. There's still things to like about football but it's not what it used to be....he's right, lots of mediocrity...
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They have dropped a lot of passes of late and it was wet last night. But you cannot discount the Nagy factor.....
Its always nice when you can bash Nagy for ANYTHING, but this time I think he gets a pass. Seems I recall that Nagy doesnt call the plays, Andy Reid is the play caller.
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Why Amazon paid $100 million for the Black Friday game (https://twitter.com/JoePompliano/status/1727345515950461020)
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38951659/tom-brady-bemoans-nfl-play-says-there-lot-mediocrity
I think Brady is right. I don't believe the quality of player is the same coming out of college today as it was 20 yrs ago and I certainly don't believe the quality of play at the NFL level matches anything from the 90s. You look back then at teams like the Cowboys and the 9ers, both loaded with top quality players and lights out defenses and offenses. And I think certainly the rules changes have made things much worse. As for our team, you see how they constantly attempt to tackle with their shoulders instead of wrapping a guy up. There's still things to like about football but it's not what it used to be....he's right, lots of mediocrity...
Sporty
You should switch sports over to soccer.
MY GOD is it incredibly exciting !!
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Titan Up!
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Jonathan Quinn and Todd Collins are platooning at QB for NE...
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Tepper fired QB coach McCown and RB coach Staley. Both quality coaches who would be great hires under the next Bears coaching staff.
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Tepper fired QB coach McCown and RB coach Staley. Both quality coaches who would be great hires under the next Bears coaching staff.
Don't be ignorant.
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FIFY:
Tepper fired QB coach McCown and RB coach Staley. Both quality coaches who would be great hires under the next this Bears coaching staff.
(not that that's saying much),,
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Where would Bill Belichick's next HC job be ?
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So... Greg Olsen is throwing his hat in to be the HC of the Carolina Panthers. Interesting.
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Where would Bill Belichick's next HC job be ?
Some reports are that he could replace Olsen on TV if he leaves to the sidelines. Who ever the fvck is suggesting that must be nuts. Could you imagine him doing analysis or a studio job like he does press conferences? LOL!
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Stats are for losers...on to Cincinnati.
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Geez ... breaking Halas Hall tradition of the five QB's drafted in the first round ours is second best.
Trevor Lawrence
Zach Wilson
Trey Lance
Halas Hall mold breaker
Mac Jones
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Three 6-6 teams in the NFC playoff picture. Good grief.
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Will the Packers ride Nagy to a win on SNF?
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Watching SNF is making me nauseous.
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Why is it no matter who they play the Packers get ALL of the calls?
They are not a good team and Love is not a good QB. But every time they need a call to go their way it does.
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That no call on the blatant DPI was just horrible.
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I’m referring to the obvious MVS no call, but the Kelce push was almost as bad…
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Whiners.
The Packers just beat two quality teams back-to-back.
Our QB in his first year starting has the same number of wins as your 3rd year guy.
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Another loss for the Chiefs, and Taylor will be breaking it off...
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I don’t know peke
That post about Love reads pretty much like sour grapes. Love is clearly faster processor over Fields.
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Hahaha. Love is #10 and Rodgers was #12. According to you that makes Love twice as good as Rodgers. Ugh NO WAY Jose
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Having another WTF moment are we wistful.
Do you know what is meant by faster processor?
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Actually, Fields has a higher QB rating than Love. Even after 2 recent stinker games against the Vikes. And Fields is also a more productive runner.
But yeah, Love looked pretty good last night.
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Jake Browning 350 yards tonight, Joe Flacco comes in off the street 250 yards 2 touchdowns.
Makes you wonder why the Bears seem to make offense so hard.
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Maybe Bears could look like that with MJH added to the offense?
Everyone raves about Purdy and he surely is a good QB. But look at who he's throwing to: Ayuk, Deebo Samuels and Kittles with McCaffery in the backfield.
Even with adding MJH or equivalent receiver, Bears really don't have that receiving threat out of the backfield. Most of the time the HB is kept in to block. Against the Vikes it was the back and Kmet a lot of the night.
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But look at who he's throwing to: Ayuk, Deebo Samuels and Kittles with McCaffery in the backfield.
The QB has to recognize who's open, and not take 20 seconds to figure it out... Not that hard to see what some of the problems are.. It's not all on who we're throwing to, but who's doing the throwing. And let's not forget who's calling the plays...
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QB needs some deception too - staring at your target should be punished with an e-shock collar during practice
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He's definitely got some issues with pocket presence, finding secondary receivers and ball security.
But aside from the crazy Vikings games he's showing improvement.
5 more games and then I'll make my decision on the future of Fields and then make my call to Halas Hall.
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Just a handful of teams that have not lost their starting QB this season thus treating backup QB as a hairbrained afterthought.
Jets
Vikes
Bengals
Browns
BEARRSSE
Cardinals (Ragans Colts )
Saints
and a host of others throughout the season and about to increase ...
Jaguars ?
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The QB has to recognize who's open, and not take 20 seconds to figure it out...
Absolutely correct
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0:00 by Robbie Gould (https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/robbie-gould-nfl-football-retirement)
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Good **** grief. Watching modern NFL quarterback play makes one appreciate Justin Fields. Although I'm not exactly a "true believer", I'm hesitant to move on to the "next big thing".
Draft MHJ and then play the second first rounder "by ear".
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It’s interesting that Patrick Mahommes with sub par wide receivers and offensive tackles hasn’t thrown for 300 yards in six games for the first time in his career.
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Its also the Nagy effect.... :D
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It’s interesting that Patrick Mahommes with sub par wide receivers and offensive tackles hasn’t thrown for 300 yards in six games for the first time in his career.
Did Mahomes suddenly decline in skills? Jokingly. I would say Nagy also, but yes how about that? No receivers to throw to, and protection not as strong makes him look middle of the pack. Very interesting.
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Last year Justin Fields had these guys to throw to: Darnell Mooney, Chase Claypool, Dante Pettis, Byron Pringle, Equanmous St. Brown and N'Keal Harry.
You see the difference one stud makes in upgrading your passing game. I had no idea how good DJ Moore was going to be. Imagine a Bears team next year with Moore and MHJ.
Imagine a Bears team with an injured Moore and the rest of these types of guys trying to fill in.
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Interesting that the Chargers fired their GM and coach but promoted the linebackers coach as interim and not Kellen Moore.
Not that the Chargers offense has been good.
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Only against the Bears - couldn't stop them.
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**** Falcons are going to lose to the Panthers.
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Apparently the Eagles choke caused the current SOS for the Panthers and Pats to be deadlocked.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBrwxL9XcAAShOR?format=jpg&name=small)
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If Carolina and NE both end up with 3 wins I'd bet NE gets the #1. The Pats have the 5-9 Jets on their schedule which even lowers their SoS.
However, the Jets game in Foxboro is the best opportunity for either team to pull out a win.
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The deadskins need to pull off a couple more wins.
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The deadskins need to pull off a couple more wins.
Do you think they are sold on Howell? Do they draft a QB or go O-line?
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Panthers play Green Bay next ... anybody want to take bets that G.B. will lose just to fuuck over our draft prospects ?
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I'd think Green Bay is still playing to try and make the playoffs. I really hope they go on a mini heater and win the next two games. Then face us and we knock them out. That's all I've got.
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Sure maybe just maybe that scenario would make up for the Conte game. But there is still about 30 years of bizarro bullshit to get even with. And for that to be remotely possible the Bears would need to lock down some sort of stability at QB and a revolving door of QB futility, that most of the league suffers with, would need to take place in GB. The lucky horseshoe has been shoved up their ass for so long; you'd think it is time for things to even out a bit.
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Is Jalen Carter a despicable piece of ****? Do we want him to die and rot stinking in the ground?
Discuss.
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Over/under on Jalen Hurts Super Bowl championships.
0.5
(Hint - bet the under)
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Hey wait a second ... all the super teams got their assess kicked !
BEARRSSE want a Super Bowl win ?
Hire somebody to stop the Baltimore QB.
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We already got someone who can stop Lamar Jackson. His name is Luke Getsy and all you have to do is make sure he is Lamar's OC...... :D
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If Getsy goes ...
Frank Reich or Josh McDaniel's for replacement ?
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If Deeeeeeeeeetroit & Cleveland go to the SuperBowl it would be the first time for both of them.
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And we should have beat them both - but we let them off the hook!
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Dear C.J. Beathard,
Do not fuckup a potential division clinching win at home against the worst team in the NFL.
Sincerely,
A Bears fan
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Thanks Jags ! And thanx Cardinals ! ( Ragans Colts)
N.Y. Giants draft high and will be in the market for a QB.
Anybody we want off the Giants team if we work a trade for the first pick ?
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Buncha teams need QB's
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I know the NFLPA disqualified this but should two a days be brought back because look at the number of injury's to all players on all teams.
Are they in the shape they used to be ?
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Campbell should have kicked the extra point especially after the penalty moved them back.
Also they tried to fool the Cowboys by having 3 linemen approach the referee with one to declare eligible. Since 70 was declaring eligible throughout the game I think the referee thought it was him and was wrong.
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Is Jalen Carter a drain on the Eagles defense ?
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Is Jalen Carter a drain on the Eagles defense ?
How so?
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Campbell should have kicked the extra point especially after the penalty moved them back.
Also they tried to fool the Cowboys by having 3 linemen approach the referee with one to declare eligible. Since 70 was declaring eligible throughout the game I think the referee thought it was him and was wrong.
I'm surprised that I have not read this anywhere else. Why would the Lions have 3 lineman approach the ref? Decker said he did what he was told to do - he did not say that I told the ref that he was elgibile. He might have said nothing.
The ref should have announced the elgible lineman on the PA. Could the Lions have attempted to fix the error after the announcement knowing that anyone besides 70 catching the ball would have been a penalty?
We ran that play in high school. I was the end on the left side and would line up on the LOS and then casually step back to make the tackle elgible.
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Guess who made the Pro Bowl
Budda Baker
77 Tackles
0 Forced Fumbles
0 Ints
0 Passes defended
0 Sacks
3 TFLS
Jaquan Brisker
97 Tackles
2 Force Fumbles
1 INT
9 Passes defended
1 Sack
2 TFLS
Antoine Winfield Jr. (yeah he plays FS, but his dad is understandably pissed)
117 tackles (73 solo)
5 forced fumbles
4 fumble recovery
3 INT
12 passes defended
5 TFLs
5 sacks
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How so?
The current state of the Eagles.
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I'm surprised that I have not read this anywhere else. Why would the Lions have 3 lineman approach the ref? Decker said he did what he was told to do - he did not say that I told the ref that he was elgibile. He might have said nothing.
The ref should have announced the elgible lineman on the PA. Could the Lions have attempted to fix the error after the announcement knowing that anyone besides 70 catching the ball would have been a penalty?
We ran that play in high school. I was the end on the left side and would line up on the LOS and then casually step back to make the tackle elgible.
Watch the replay again. Decker and Sewell approach the ref. Toward the end of the discussion, 68 approaches the group. I believe this was an attempt to confuse the defense as to who would be eligible. Not sure whether or not, it is announced overhead in this game, but I can tell you, I heard loud and clear every time Borom reported eligible against the Falcons. Repeated three times overhead. I was at the game.
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Ron Rivera - He gone.
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Fitterer - He gone as Carolina GM. Wonder if it was him picking Young over Stroud, what he gave away to move up or both together?
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Open HC positions:
Washington
Atlanta
Las Vegas
Carolina
LA Chargers
Open GM positions:
Washington
Carolina
LA Chargers
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Fitterer - He gone as Carolina GM. Wonder if it was him picking Young over Stroud, what he gave away to move up or both together?
Well, apparently, Fitterer is better off since he wanted to Draft Stroud over Young and was overruled by the owner. Yount wasn't the QB he wanted so I guess it is because of what he gave up in the trade.
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Cunningham long gone while giving the Bears a pair of 3s. Hopefully Poles hires the new assistant GM from the outside to give a different perspective.
Has Matt been fired yet?
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Apparently Belichick is willing to give GM duties because he is the last human being on earth to realize that he sucks ass at personnel. So either way that job will be open. Would kill to be a fly on the wall if Cunningham takes Wash or NE and conducts trade talks with his old boss.
Has Matt been fired yet?
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If Harbaugh splits Michigan he should land at Chargers.
It's an L.A. glamour job. Maybe gets them out of the shadow of the Rams.
Roquan Smith and Kahlil Mack in Pro Bowl.
Leonard Floyd gets big bonus if he got a few more sacks.
Too bad we never had the chance to get any of them on BEARRSSE. >:(
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Sure as shiit CHASE CLAYPOOL fuucked things up for the Dolphins !
Whew ! Good riddance !
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Vrabel fired
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Vrabel fired
That was shocking. Difference between Nashville and Chicago. In Chicago, that would be the lead news story on local tv, and repeated in the sports portion as well. Watching last night and tonight, I haven't seen it reported yet.
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Getsy and Janoco fired
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Pete Carroll...
He gone. Invited to the Front Office but he gone off the sidelines.
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I like Shane Waldron, but does Seattle like him more to stick with the new HC like Quinn perhaps...
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The coaching carousal begins.
Who's the best O.C. with crew that best fits BEARSSE ?
NFL / College ?
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Bill Belichick.. He gone too.
Not NFL but...
Nicke Saben... He gone.
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Bill Belichick.. He gone too.
Not NFL but...
Nicke Saben... He gone.
Hire Saben as O.C.
Belichick as D.C.
Could workout ok.
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mic key mouse
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@RapSheet
While so much of the focus was on Mike Vrabel, the internal focus for the #Patriots was always on Jerod Mayo. It was written into his contract that he would be the successor to Bill Belichick.
Now, he will be.
7:37 AM · Jan 12, 2024
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Cunningham passed over for the Commanders job. Still in the running for the Chargers.
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It's CHICKENSHIIT that NBC is putting the Miami - K.C. game on Peacock only. >:(
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Yep, pretty sick and tired of that nonsense....
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Got to nip that in the bud and hope the numbers are bad so that they stop doing stupid **** like that....
Guess I'll wake up tomorrow and watch the game on condensed replay on NFL+ .....
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Going to try to find it on FB. There's a Bears group that broadcasts the games, KC should be able to find it there as well, we'll see....
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I hear folks using an IPTV provider (if you can find a good local provider) or even that official sports betting app on your phone- You lay down a 10 cent bet on buffalo and you can at least watch on your phone (or cast it to a TV).....
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@TomPelissero
Things are about to ramp up for Jim Harbaugh: It’s believed the #Chargers will speak with him next week, amidst ongoing internal debate in Las Vegas and negotiations with Michigan, which won’t give him up without a fight. Details (https://www.nfl.com/news/chargers-raiders-have-interest-in-jim-harbaugh-maxx-crosby-in-full-support-of-antonio-pierce) from me and @RapSheet
7:03 AM · Jan 13, 2024
@AdamSchefter
Interim coach Antonio Pierce has emerged as the leading candidate to become the full-time head coach in Las Vegas, with the support of key players there, per league sources. There will be other options for Raiders’ owner Mark Davis to consider, but as one source said, “I would be blown away if Antonio weren’t the pick.”
7:17 AM · Jan 13, 2024
Cunningham interviews with the Chargers tomorrow. If Harbaugh and Cunningham end up working together, it would be interesting to see if JH is willing to forego the personnel control that resulted in a tug a war with Baalke and his eventual firing from SF.
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If Harbaugh goes to Chargers and Cunningham becomes the GM, they will either succeed spectacularly or fail terribly. It would be a swing for the fences move that the Bears would never contemplate. Here's hoping Cunningham (if he leaves) is not the real reason Poles stopped flubbing draft picks and FA signings.....
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@TomPelissero
The #Raiders haven’t conducted any head-coaching interviews. But there is mounting pressure on owner Mark Davis to retain interim coach Antonio Pierce -- including from the locker room, with All-Pro edge rusher Maxx Crosby likely to request a trade if Pierce isn't retained.
7:30 AM · Jan 13, 2024
If the Raiders want Caleb, unrealistic baseline will be 3 1s, 3 2s, and Crosby. Rip that franchise apart. Sorry JJ
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That would be tempting. Where do the Raiders pick?
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Never mind they pick 13. That is a tad too far of a trade down for me.
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Watching the Texans-Browns game and there he is, Laramie Tunsil the LT the Bears SHOULD have picked and instead passed him by. Still furious about that stupidity....
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Makes me want Kubiak more as OC. Has the same position with the 49ers that Slowik did before going to Houston. And unlike Kubiak, Slowik is a first time playcaller. Designing plays based on QBs strengths and stretching the field. What a concept.
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For 3 1s, 3 2s, and Crosby? Sign me up now!
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Watching the Texans-Browns game and there he is, Laramie Tunsil the LT the Bears SHOULD have picked and instead passed him by. Still furious about that stupidity....
We traded up, and STILL passed on him. Complete dumbassery.
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Texans lighting up the Browns like an oldy timey pinball machine. Kid came right in and is doing that. Hmmmmmm. Proof still shows the Bear uppers are still **** dirty ice. Sometimes it will work, most times though, you go in for a swim.
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We traded up, and STILL passed on him. Complete dumbassery.
Well. I remember a LOT of teams passed on him... And Leonard Floyd wasn't a horrible pick.
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/04/newspress-collage-22053192-1651076628194.png)
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For 3 1s, 3 2s, and Crosby? Sign me up now!
Exactly!
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I like being on the end with multiple number 1's rather than the end with no number 1's. Pace was an idiot. He traded our picks away like we had a bucket full...
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I don't get it...how are the Packers doing this?? They haven't lost a step with Love. In fact he looks like frigging Rodgers. They have a system there that works. They just find players and plug them in and keep going. Bears can't get shti together. I think if teams want to beat them they're going to have to dismantle their system, grab their coaches and GM, get them off that team and break that whole thing up. Packers don't lose assistants at the rate other teams do. That needs to change.
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It starts with being able to draft good OL talent without using high draft picks.
Also the same with their receivers.
A quarterback has a huge advantage with those elements. Love sees when to roll out with the blitz.
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Helps them alot that the Cowboys are totally playing horrid. They look terrible. But yeah I agree, the Oline is strong there and they just have solid players. They draft well. We have not....
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Dak was thought to have overcome his choking but it’s all the way back so far.
They’ll blame McCarthy but Dak’s closing his eyes and throwing it.
Who knows, if they lose today it will be tempting to call the Bears about the draft pick.
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Whew Jimmy Johnson sounds like he needs to be on the Boys sidelines firing them up! He was PISSED! They are totally playing like shti. Zak is horrible right now
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Anyone still think defense wins championships?
If you do, you’re wrong.
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Hilarious fellas
I guess that you don't know what an ass whopping looks like after so many bear football years.
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Anyone still think defense wins championships?
If you do, you’re wrong.
I absolutely think D wins championships. If they (cowboys) had a pass rush getting to Love this would be (maybe) a different game. The boys O (Prescott) look like total sh!t!!
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The Cowboys were not playing defense, that was a large part of the problem. They left the middle of the field wide open for the Packers recievers to make huge gains. For whatever stupid reason they were playing zone and not man.
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Sure sporty, the dallas defense was just letting us run wide open WRs...
Face it, going into next season the bears are still the worst team in division.
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2 of the top defenses in the league all year long got lit up this weekend by unproven QBs. You think the defenses just didn’t show up to play?
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I think that you're missing the fact that one of the best offenses in the league was behind 0-27 before they scored.
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What wins championships are the two things that have always won championships. Excellent quarterback play and dominating at the line of scrimmage. There is a lot of overlap between those two things.
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Watching Stroud and Love in the playoffs makes me lean toward the dark side and just reset the clock with Caleb. The Bears need to continue to build the trenches on both sides, have a QB who can make anticipatory throws in the pocket against zone or man, and have a competent playcaller who can overcome Coach Conservative who should have been fired months ago if it wasn't for that win at Washington. Whether it's Justin or Caleb, it's playoffs or bust for the Bears IMO and Poles' ass is on the line depending on his decision at QB.
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I don't think there's any way the Bears draft Williams. Total prima donna. The ultimate "Dig me!" guy. The antithesis of what Poles is trying to build.
If they don't stay with Fields, it will be Maye (at the top of the draft) or someone else (with their second pick).
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I know it's unfair to the kid and frankly dumb to "scout the helmet," but I just cannot go there at 1. If CW doesn't pass the bullshit test one on one and in background checks, then by all means open the lines and let the fleecing begin. But depending on where you end up, you would almost have to keep JF1 come draft time and accept a precipitous drop in his trade value in order to keep teams from jumping you if you have Daniels, etc. in your sights. In any case, I agree excellent QB play is required for the postseason and Poles got a front row view of that in his time at KC.
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This offseason would be a lot more fun if the Bears were talking to Slowik or Johnson for an open HC spot. Fuckin Bears.
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NFC North 2-0
NFC South 0-0
NFC East 0-1
NFC West 0-1
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The Bears got lit up playing zone, not sure why the Cowboys decided to play zone against Love. That's not to take anything away from Love, he has played great the last few games.
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Back to Defense for a second. If I'm not mistaken, the Cowboys had one of the best scoring offenses in the league. Green Bays D come in and shut em down. 27 to zip shut em down. Game was over at that point.. Great defense wins championships, and great coaches. For sure you have to have a top QB and supporting cast. A team sport. Green Bay came in with a good defensive plan and negated Dallas' "great" O....
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As long as the opposing QB can stand back with time to pick you part, you're screwed no matter who the QB is. We need to bolster our O line and D line..
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Remember when we were all willing to give Payne a blank check? Fortunately, Wash locked him up and Poles traded for the better player instead. If KC doesn't tag Chris Jones, I totally expect the Bears to be in play. Chase Young? Would be an interesting market and much cheaper and younger than Hunter. Use the draft to solidify the OL.
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Coaching matters as much as talent. (e.g. don't take a little WR to block a DE on a power sweep or screen). You can have one or the other but you will not consistently win. Mediocre George ensures the Bears will never be synced.....
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Build that Oline. We've got to have much better offensive line play. And then get that key piece on the D that can get to the passer. Having one good pass rusher isn't going to cut it....they can double him. We need a duo.
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Wonder if J.Jones is gonna launch Prescott and McCarthy. That was a fail of epic proportions. Think Dallas was busy at the jewelers sizing up their SB rings and forgot to show for the game....
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It did look like they thought they could just show up and win. This was a perfect storm game for both teams- McCarthy always chokes in the 1st round of the playoffs and has an arrogant team. GB is scrappy, young and does not know what they do no know yet (and they always seem to handle dallas well)........
And maybe the NFC North is not as weak as many thought they were ?
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Watching Stroud and Love in the playoffs makes me lean toward the dark side and just reset the clock with Caleb.
For God's sake NO. First of all we have dont have a better Oline than USC. Meaning he'd be killed in the first game. Just another wasted QB pick
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Watching Stroud and Love in the playoffs makes me lean toward the dark side and just reset the clock with Caleb.
For God's sake NO. First of all we have dont have a better Oline than USC. Meaning he'd be killed in the first game. Just another wasted QB pick
I don't know. After watching most of the playoff games this weekend and seeing QBs routinely attempting (and completing) throws that the Bears rarely try.
Is it Getsy or Fields?
I don't think its a slam dunk that the Bears trade down anymore.
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Going to G.B. and losing 9 - 17 looks damn good after watching the Dallas - G.B. game !
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Losing to GB NEVER looks good in any fashion whatsoever! >:(
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Yup absolutely
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Shows that we can stick with them in their house and Dallas can't in their house.
Which team losing to G.B. is better motherfuuckers ?
That's what I'm getting at.
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NFC North 2-0
NFC South 1-0
NFC West 0-1
NFC East 0-2
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The Falcons have requested interviews with Slowik and Johnson and completed interviews with Belichick and Harbaugh. But the culture of the Bears is awesome led by Mr. Continuity. SMH
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NFC EAST exposed.
POWER is in the NFC NORF.
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Damn Buffalo....wide right again.
NFC North 3-1
NFC West 1-1
NFC South 1-1
NFC East 0-2
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Buffalo seems to blow it every year.. I hate Kansas City!! KC will get their as$es handed to them by the Ravens..
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Thats the way it looks but I am not so sure. Bald T More just might run out of gas. It will be interesting to watch.
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Baltimore is the favorite - no question. But the favorite doesn't always win in any NFL game.
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Thats a fact
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Watching the Ravens and Chiefs sure clearly demonstrates NFL is about pass rush and protection.
No matter who your quarterback and receivers are.
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Buffalo seems to blow it every year.. I hate Kansas City!! KC will get their as$es handed to them by the Ravens..
This didn’t age well.
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Ravens looked like sh!t!! Mistakes.. Jackson didn't look all that great...
Detroit looking good.. For now..
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This didn’t age well.
Oh well.. I really thought the Ravens were the best team.. They sure looked bad..
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Detroit, running the ball and playing solid D. Representing the "central" well...
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Come on Detroit...don't choke this game up.
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Aaaaand...they did....
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I feel bad for Lions fans. I really wanted them to go all the way this year.
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I feel bad for Lions fans. I really wanted them to go all the way this year.
Is it crazy that most Central Division fans were pulling for the lions? I usually don't pull for rivals in the playoffs but I was on Detroit's side on this.
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And Dan Campbell lost that game for Detroit. He was totally outcoached in the second half. How do you pass up a 48-yard FG to tie the game?
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Frankly there were some lion fans who were pretty damn annoying talking trash the last couple years. So as much as I hate SF (except of course when they predictably bounce the Packers), I got some satisfaction that they got just a taste of what we had to put up with Eberflus and his patented snatching defeat from the jaws of victory games particularly at Detroit this year and v. Detroit in 2022 which I saw live. I can only imagine what it was like at the Ford Field watch party in the 2nd half after the initial euphoria.
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I can only imagine what it was like at the Ford Field watch party in the 2nd half after the initial euphoria.
Yeah, I noticed they didn't do very many cut-ins to Ford Field in the second half.
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The Audible game at Minneapolis taught me hard that no lead is safe. I bet no one here would feel the least bit confident with any lead so long as "Matty Ice" is strolling the sideline.
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The new Lions were fun this year. Unfortunately the old Lions decided to come back for the second half of that game. That loss is going to hurt.....
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Yep, old Lions showed up at the wrong time...
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The Audible game... are you referring to the game where the Bears had a 20-0 lead and Harbaugh audibled into a pick 6? Wow, bad memories!
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All those teams hoping to get Ben Johnson are a little disappointed today.
Ben Johnson is going back to Detroit for another bite at the apple...
https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/ben-johnson-returning-detroit-lions#:~:text=Detroit%20Lions%20offensive%20coordinator%20Ben,for%20another%20season%20in%20Motown.
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After the Bears fire Eberflus, they can go after Johnson. Then again, he'll be too expensive so never mind...
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We all know that VJ isn't going to be sending Valentines Day flowers to Eberflus. Got it.
Just wondering what is the opinion here on Fields and Caleb Williams. Keep Fields or trade him (and draft Williams or another QB).
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I thought the majority agreed to keep Fields and spend the capitol on both lines... And a receiver, jr...
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And if VJ wants to b!tch about Eberflus, I say have at it..
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And if VJ wants to b!tch about Eberflus, I say have at it..
Yeah. He hasn't reached the BEARLYBOT level of bitching.
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Just wondering what is the opinion here on Fields and Caleb Williams. Keep Fields or trade him (and draft Williams or another QB).
So many variables.
- Benefit of a rookie QB contract
- Losing the locker room if you trade Fields
- What can you get for the #1 pick?
- What can you get for Fields?
- Our internal scouting on Fields (especially Waldron's)
- Our internal scouting on Williams, Maye, etc.
- Potentially taking a step back with a rookie QB
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VJ aint going to like if you take a rookie QB you reset the Coach timetable as well. If they only win 3 next year with a rookie QB do you have to blow up the entire coaching staff? If you do the same with Justin you must blow up the coaching staff and start over using the draft capital to get the QB you want in the draft.
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One of my biggest concerns with Fields is the upcoming contract. Otherwise, keep Fields and continue to build the rest of the team.. We've been on that elusive search for how many years? What's a few more...
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I thought for sure the Ravens had every piece they needed to go to the Super Bowl - Roquan and Lamar and all the supporting cast - and now they are sitting on the couch
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I'm probably more Pro-Caleb than most here. I know it is not ideal to match a rookie QB with this HC. The accolades from Spielman and others are over the top. QB evaluation is such a crapshoot. Just google 2017 QB draft rankings and see how many people ranked Kizer over Mahomes. But I still believe based on the tape that this kid is talented enough to be worth the 1st pick. Biggs did mention about a week ago that he knows of Bears area scouts doing legwork on CW on campus well before last years draft so it appears the Bears did their due diligence on him.
But if Poles keeps Justin and chokes out a franchise for multiple 1s and 2s, based on his better than average draft record I'll support that too. In either scenario, I do expect to be in play for a wild card next year. There is talent on this roster and the Bears have enough money and picks to add more. And IMO the offensive coaching hires across the board are upgrades over the dumbasses last year.
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Back on topic, kinda hard to bet against KC. Their WRs aren't dropping balls as much, Kelce got second wind, and Spag's defense is way better than Detroit.
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It's going to be KC, again. They're the new Patriots dynasty.
As for CW vs Fields, I wouldn't want to be the one to make that decision. Williams tape is just insane the plays the guy can make. He's Fields with a great arm and accuracy. That being said, what we could get for trading him/the pick to another team would be a pretty good haul I'm sure. So...do you take the 'almost' sure thing, even though most first pick QBs don't do much and take that risk with him, or take the haul and go with Fields. If the haul is alot, I'd have to say go that way...but dang....what you could be leaving on the table with Williams.....
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Obviiously success in college is not guarentee of success in the NFL. Every first round QB put up wow numbers in college and Williams did that at OU and USC.
I do remember last year that Stroud really impressed during the combine while Young did not participate. Maybe then opinions might change.
I do know that during the playoffs I saw quite a few throws that Fields rarely made. I guess those in the Fields camp can blame that on the offense and Getsy.
I'm glad I'm not making the decision on what do at QB.
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I’m glad, too. I don’t envy Poles at all. I just hope his decision works out.
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Just dont like the comparison of CW @ SC to his comparison to CW as a Bear. We arent getting a quality QB out of CW until the OLine gets upgraded.
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Just dont like the comparison of CW @ SC to his comparison to CW as a Bear. We arent getting a quality QB out of CW until the OLine gets upgraded.
CENTER ROUND 3
RIGHT GAURD ROUND 4
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I follow several pages on FB, and it seems almost evenly splint on keep Fields/take Caleb with the fans. Interestingly, it seems that was with former players and coaches, though former GMs do seem to favor the shiny unknown with Williams, vs the known warts with Fields. It is a daunting decision. Poles not only has to evaluate Williams, but the other 4 - 6 QBs in this draft, and by the way, he has a 2nd top 10 pick.
Poles has shown pretty well for a young GM. Ultimately, I will respect the decision and put my faith that he has done his complete diligence in making that decision. If he decides that Williams is mentally wired right for the position, the physical tools are hard to ignore. It's between the ears, that I want to know about with Williams.
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I think the biggest fear I have with Fields is FoMo. Its when you hold a stock for a while and decide to sell it and it sky rockets - fear of missing out.
Remember when Steve Young was at Tampa. It took quite a few years but he ended up doing some good things with the 49ers. But for every Steve Young there's 10 Mitch Trubiskys that go on to new teams and do nothing.
I go back and forth.
Fields is a helluva an athlete. Just needs a better O-line and we saw what he could do with a real #1 WR this past year. With better receivers and a new OC he could really improve.
VS
Fields holds the ball too damn long. The ball rarely comes out quickly. Even an un-drafted FA like Bagent at times looked so much better than Fields in that respect. Where's the throws over the middle? the quick slants? He constantly lives outside the numbers.
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The slow drop back, the hesitancy to let it fly on longer routes, or to trust his WR to be in the spot he throws it…
Is this stuff that can be improved with time? I don’t know.
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Greg Gabriel was recently interviewed by Barstool Sports and said he was talking to a quarterback coach who said Fields looks like he’s never been coached. He said his biggest problem is slow drop back and his issues are correctable.
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Hell even I was saying sometime earlier this season that they should have had someone with a fungo bat or something during practice who could gently hir fields in the head if he held the ball too long to get his internal clock to reset better....
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I follow several pages on FB, and it seems almost evenly splint on keep Fields/take Caleb with the fans. Interestingly, it seems that was with former players and coaches, though former GMs do seem to favor the shiny unknown with Williams, vs the known warts with Fields. It is a daunting decision. Poles not only has to evaluate Williams, but the other 4 - 6 QBs in this draft, and by the way, he has a 2nd top 10 pick.
Poles has shown pretty well for a young GM. Ultimately, I will respect the decision and put my faith that he has done his complete diligence in making that decision. If he decides that Williams is mentally wired right for the position, the physical tools are hard to ignore. It's between the ears, that I want to know about with Williams.
If you follow the Bears on Facebook, then you would know what would happen if Fields is traded and CW is drafted. But that pales into comparison to what would happen on FB if the Bears instead drafted Drake Maye.
Riots.
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With Kingsbury being hired by the Raiders, I wonder how much input he will provide into what would be a good offer for the #1 pick?
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Think my concern with a trade of the pick is we could lose not only the top QB but also MHJ if they trade down too far....
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I would rather give Eberflus a 10 year contract extension than draft Maye at 1.01. Sean Payton said that CW will be the reason that the NFL draft order goes to a lottery system. Kingsbury has zero hesitation comparing CW to Mahomes. The Broncos and Raiders have Mahomes' boot on their neck from the start so of course the rumors are going to fly.
Maybe Poles might decide after the one on one interviews that he is indeed a finger paintin' cry baby diva and shockingly discovers that "none of his teammates went to his birthday party." Maybe Carl Williams believes he is the second coming of Jack Elway and Archie Manning combined. If that is the case, then my offer is a minimum 3 1s, 3 2s, and Surtain or Crosby. Or if you want draft MHJ or God forbid Maye at 2, take from Magic Johnson et al. a future 1 and a couple 2s for that D.C. homecoming.
Trevor Lawrence has regressed. But no one doubts his ability to bounce back. His stats along with Murray and Mayfield would still threaten or surpass Kramer in the Bears outdated passing records. Bryce Young's future is still TBD after just one year. Of course it is hard to forget the colossal failures of Russell, Carr, and Couch. But those dudes are definitely outliers (https://www.footballguys.com/article/2024-why-the-bears-need-to-draft-caleb-williams) when it comes to picking the consensus number one QB at one.
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VJ
I don't get the Sean Payton comment of a lottery system. Carolina didn't tank this year because the Bears had the pick. Did Washington or New England tank at the end to try to overtake Carolina's pick?
And last year Houston just had to lose the last game of the year to earn the first pick in the draft. We are forever grateful to Lovie Smith.
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And the Texans maybe too since seem to have their QB of the future....
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Kingsbury withdrew from Vegas and is now a candidate for D.C.
If the Bears end up at 2, then IMO Fields stays and you either draft MHJ or do another trade down. Anything without at least a future 1 and a 2 is a nonstarter.
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I would rather give Eberflus a 10 year contract extension than draft Maye at 1.01
I'd rather draft Maye at 1.02 than CW @ 1.01. I think Maye's frame is more durable. Whoever, the Bears draft @ QB is going to take a pounding with the current Oline.
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From The Athletic
How the Commanders landed on Dan Quinn amid twists, turns and ‘outrageous’ actions (https://theathletic.com/5242976/2024/02/05/commanders-head-coach-dan-quinn/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twhq&source=twitterhq)
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I would rather give Eberflus a 10 year contract extension than draft Maye at 1.01
I'd rather draft Maye at 1.02 than CW @ 1.01. I think Maye's frame is more durable. Whoever, the Bears draft @ QB is going to take a pounding with the current Oline.
We can all spout how Fields should be kept or traded, or CW is the best generational talent or Maye has the a higher floor or whatever but especially when it comes down to drafting rookie QBs...
Nobody really knows!
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More truth than poetry. No argument.
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Antonio Pierce on new offensive coordinator Luke Getsy: “He whupped our ass when we played them (the Bears). Who was their QB? I don’t know. Who was their RB? I don’t know. But they still beat us pretty good.”
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The Bears whupped your team's a$$ because your defense didn't want to tackle anybody. It was like watching an old pro bowl game.
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Dave Toub was right to split to K.C.
3 rings and counting.
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Higgins tagged. Not sure the Bears were going to spend big FA money on WR anyway. Biggs mentioned Cushenberry as a target at C.
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Cushenberry would be a good investment
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Bears have not had a bona-fide center since Kreutz. They keep playing around with guys converted from other positions. Get a dude who can play the position (and has) that can snap the ball on time and on target instead of trying to square-peg round-hole another position guy into there. Its not rocket science, after all..... :D
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We agree
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Was hoping that James Daniels would have been that round peg years ago. He is still starting with Pittsburgh in the guard position.
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Is it true that Eric Bieniemy is headed to UCLA as an assistant coach ?
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Bryce Huff not tagged.
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Christian Wilkins likely not tagged. Could be a tough signing without a J.J. extension if the Bears are interested.
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Why? Bears have 80 million in cap, they can easily get both deals done.
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Pros and cons of Bears trying to sign Christian Wilkins.
Pros: He's big 3 technique who had 9 1/2 sacks last season. Dolphins are one of the worst teams in regard to cap space. He's ranked 29TH out of 130 interior lineman by PFF. He is a huge upgrade over last year's Justin Jones.
Cons: He's never reached 5 sacks in any of his 4 prior seasons. Can you say 'contract year'? He's already 28.
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Per PFT
Indications are building of potential Kirk Cousins move to Atlanta (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/indications-are-building-of-potential-kirk-cousins-move-to-atlanta)
Pitt or don't laugh Vegas can really lowball Poles if this happens.
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Ari Meirov
@MySportsUpdate
If the #Vikings don't sign Kirk Cousins before March 13, they'll incur $28.5M in dead money from previous restructures on their 2024 salary cap.
Everyone will keep focusing on the #Falcons as a serious threat, and there are many reasons as to why.
6:41 PM · Mar 5, 2024
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https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/trey-lance-dallas-cowboys-kirk-cousins/
That would be bad for the Vikes. That probably push Cousins to Atlanta. That would eliminate Fields to Atlanta. I am still wondering what the Patriots do for a QB. Fields?
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https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/trey-lance-dallas-cowboys-kirk-cousins/
That would be bad for the Vikes. That probably push Cousins to Atlanta. That would eliminate Fields to Atlanta. I am still wondering what the Patriots do for a QB. Fields?
New England is in the 3rd position in the first round, they could easily draft a QB.
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maybe they will.
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Mac Jones for a sixth rounder. Yikes
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Mac Jones for a sixth rounder. Yikes
Wonder what that says about Fields trade value.
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yes. Makes you scratch your head.
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@AdamSchefter
Nine-time Pro-Bowl QB and former Super-Bowl champ Russell Wilson plans to sign with the Pittsburgh Steelers, per league sources. Wilson will sign a team-friendly, one-year deal in which the Broncos will wind up paying $38 million of his salary while Wilson wears the black and yellow.
10:35 PM · Mar 10, 2024
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Mayfield stays with TB. Denver reportedly could compete with ATL and MN for Cousins even through they have to pay a Steelers QB $38 million to stay away. As long as Cousins doesn't sign with ATL, that keeps Fields in play for something other than a conditional pick next season.
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@AdamSchefter
Bengals franchise WR Tee Higgins has requested a trade, per sources. Higgins loves Cincinnati and hoped to be with the team long term, but is disappointed that the team has not had any talks about a long-term contract extension since March 2023. He’s ready to move on to a new home.
9:06 AM · Mar 11, 2024
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@DMRussini
Kirk Cousins will hit free agency and begin discussions with Atlanta as soon as the tampering window opens in 90 minutes, per sources.
9:29 AM · Mar 11, 2024
"begin"...lol
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Talk is that Aaron Jones will be cut by the Packers after signing Josh Jacobs!
He always killed the Bears. Josh Jacobs is a tough runner but I'd rather face him than Jones.
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Panthers just signed Robert Hunt…5/100!
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Panthers just signed Robert Hunt…5/100!
Hunt is top 10....so may be Jenkins next year. Uh oh.
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Talk is that Aaron Jones will be cut by the Packers after signing Josh Jacobs!
He always killed the Bears. Josh Jacobs is a tough runner but I'd rather face him than Jones.
Why would they cut Jones ?
Is it a money issue ?
That fuucker fuucked us so many times it's not funny.
Him and TRAITOR Montgomery cost us two games last season all by their lonesome. >:(
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Jones to the Vikings…wonderful…
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Jones to the Vikings…wonderful…
He won't be the same player once he takes off the green and gold.
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Derrick Henry to Baltimore…
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Derrick Henry to Baltimore…
Problem with him is age. He hit the NFL barrier for age in RB's.
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Calvin Ridley is a Titan…4/92, 50 guaranteed…
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No state taxes in Tennessee, either…suck it, Jacksonville!
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@EastBreese
By the end of this contract Kirk Cousins will have made $411 million in his career. LeBron James has made $479 million in his career.
No hate, but his agent should tackle peace talks next 😂
3:51 PM · Mar 11, 2024
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And for a guy who’s never won a playoff game.
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@EastBreese
By the end of this contract Kirk Cousins will have made $411 million in his career. LeBron James has made $479 million in his career.
No hate, but his agent should tackle peace talks next 😂
3:51 PM · Mar 11, 2024
If you look up what Sam Bradford made at QB you'll shiit that he did nothing.
Last of the $50,000,000 paid rookie QB's.
After him NFLPA and owners actually got together and said that agent negotiated contracts are out of hand.
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Eagles have a backup quarterback problem. Justin Fields might be the resolution (https://sports.yahoo.com/eagles-have-a-backup-quarterback-problem-justin-fields-might-be-the-resolution-023502182.html)
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Best case scenario a QB falls and we get two first to move down two. Ok i know put down the crack pipe, but it is Friday, one can dream right?
By making this trade in mid-March, the Vikings have some options before the draft. They could potentially package No. 11 and No. 23 to move up into the top 10 for a quarterback. Or if that’s not enough, they could package No. 11 and No. 23 with a player — perhaps receiver Justin Jefferson, who is seeking a new contract — to move up for the quarterback they want.
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Best case scenario a QB falls and we get two first to move down two. Ok i know put down the crack pipe, but it is Friday, one can dream right?
By making this trade in mid-March, the Vikings have some options before the draft. They could potentially package No. 11 and No. 23 to move up into the top 10 for a quarterback. Or if that’s not enough, they could package No. 11 and No. 23 with a player — perhaps receiver Justin Jefferson, who is seeking a new contract — to move up for the quarterback they want.
Remember last year the Bears dropped from 9 to 10 and received a 4th rounder. If the Bears traded their 9th to the Vikings for their 11th - its going to be around the same value maybe you get both of the Vikings 4th rounders and give them the Bears 4th rounder.
The only way I would trade down from 9 is if Dallas Turner and Rome Odunze/Malike Nabers are gone. There's a better than 50/50 chance none of those guys will be there at 9.
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Aaron Donald hangs 'em up. I still remember how livid I was that the Bears were one fuckin pick away.
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@Steelersdepot
ESPN's Dan Graziano on SportsCenter: "The Eagles, from what I understand talking to sources around the league, were one of the teams that had talked to the Bears about Justin Fields, but obviously could not get to the point where they agreed on a price, so they traded for Pickett." #Steelers #NFL
5:29 PM · Mar 15, 2024
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Weren't the Bengals able to sign Carson Palmer because they had the first pick in the first round ahead of the draft ?
If so , could we do that ?
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Weren't the Bengals able to sign Carson Palmer because they had the first pick in the first round ahead of the draft ?
If so , could we do that ?
Not sure what the CBA states regarding signing the overall number 1 pick in advance of the draft. The salary is slotted and cannot be negotiated. I think the only point of negotiation is how much of the salary is guaranteed.
Palmer was a QB back in the days that there was no salary slotting so players could negotiate salary terms in advance, particularly the number 1 overall choice.
Curious, why do you want the Bears to get an early start on signng their choice?
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It sure would pisss off the NFL and all the programming and hype they do on the first pick.
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Not sure what the CBA states regarding signing the overall number 1 pick in advance of the draft. The salary is slotted and cannot be negotiated. I think the only point of negotiation is how much of the salary is guaranteed.
Palmer was a QB back in the days that there was no salary slotting so players could negotiate salary terms in advance, particularly the number 1 overall choice.
Curious, why do you want the Bears to get an early start on signng their choice?
It sure in the hell would give us a lead time on how to handle finances.
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My concern is that CW's camp (which I don't believe includes an actual agent), demands a contract after CW is drafted that is way out of whack from what is normal give to #1s and decides to hold out.
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My concern is that CW's camp (which I don't believe includes an actual agent), demands a contract after CW is drafted that is way out of whack from what is normal give to #1s and decides to hold out.
If he does that, he might as well go straight to the CFL. He's not that dumb.
Let me depict the relative strength of the league and the player's union using a mathematical expression.
NFL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NFLPA
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If he does that, he might as well go straight to the CFL. He's not that dumb.
Let me depict the relative strength of the league and the player's union using a mathematical expression.
NFL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NFLPA
Yes everyone is aware that the NFL draft pay scale is kind of locked in. But here's a guy that was spouting off that he wants piece of the NFL franchise that drafts him and we all know that can't happen.
Does he even have an agent yet?
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Yes everyone is aware that the NFL draft pay scale is kind of locked in. But here's a guy that was spouting off that he wants piece of the NFL franchise that drafts him and we all know that can't happen.
Does he even have an agent yet?
Caleb said nothing about team ownership.
That came up when his father was interviewing agents and asked them what other revenue sources they could foresee such as any possibility of team ownership.
Somehow that’s morphed into Caleb wants ownership.
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Caleb said nothing about team ownership.
That came up when his father was interviewing agents and asked them what other revenue sources they could foresee such as any possibility of team ownership.
Somehow that’s morphed into Caleb wants ownership.
I thought that was debunked also. I guess you can say that he is not a good teammate has been debunked after yesterday's pro day. A bunch of this teammates showed up to help and from all accounts a lot of smoking and joking and praise from teammates. One story about him going to Miller Moss the #2 QB and telling him that one of the reasons he sat out the bowl game was because it was his shot to show the staff what he has. He told him there were a LOT of players in the portal knowing he was leaving and wanting to come to be the new #1. The kid goes out and throws for a record 6 TDs.
Also reported that the Bears team took Caleb and a bunch of USC staff and teammates out to a fancy private restaurant. This was the night before the pro-day apparently.
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I saw some of the clips from the pro day and just from listening to him talk I feel a lot better about the Bears drafting him.
I saw his first game in college against UT when he came in for Rattler and destroyed the Texas secondary. No concerns about his ability.
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Teddy Greenstein of the Trib wrote a book on the fathers of the top 4 quarterbacks in the draft.
He’s interviewed on Hoge and Jahns and Take the North podcasts and has a lot of good information on Williams.
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I saw some of the clips from the pro day and just from listening to him talk I feel a lot better about the Bears drafting him.
Same with me. I see he has a strong arm
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I like the way Williams drops the ball into the receiver hands so a db would have a hard time getting a hand on it rather than a straight line thrower.
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Fascinating thread on the effects we should see as the new kickoff rules are imposed this fall…
https://twitter.com/ericgalko/status/1772627029596250439?s=61&t=jK5QHHCvDmcUYopR6prllg
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Fascinating thread on the effects we should see as the new kickoff rules are imposed this fall…
https://twitter.com/ericgalko/status/1772627029596250439?s=61&t=jK5QHHCvDmcUYopR6prllg
hmmmm.... Interested in seeing how this works out. Might put some excitement back into the kickoffs.
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I wonder if Roschon would make a good kick returner…one cut and boom!
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Pitt made a quick and solid move signing Patterson literally hours after the new KO rules passed.
V12 would be a good option...if he holds onto the ball.
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How come we didn't get Mason Rudolph in the Fields deal ?
Or would that cost too much dollar wise ?
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How come we didn't get Mason Rudolph in the Fields deal ?
Or would that cost too much dollar wise ?
He signed a FA deal with the Titans to backup Levis.
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Pitt made a quick and solid move signing Patterson literally hours after the new KO rules passed.
V12 would be a good option...if he holds onto the ball.
His problems have been primarily on punt returns. He's pretty darn good return kicks...when he gets a chance.
I'm actually looking forward to Velus getting more of a shot this season. He caught 62 balls at Tennesse his last year. And the Bears couldn't get him the ball. As a matter of fact they couldn't get Mooney the ball...couldn't get Scott the ball either.
Hmm.
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Six WR? Moore, Allen, draftee, Scott, Jones, Pettis?
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Six WR? Moore, Allen, draftee, Scott, Jones, Pettis?
With Collin Johnson and Nsimba something on deck if draftee doesn't happen.
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Stefon Diggs recently chimed in on social media to address whether or not he’s essential to Josh Allen’s success.
We’re all about to find out if he is.
Per ESPN’s Adam Schefter, the Bills are trading Stefon Diggs to the Texans.
Buffalo will receive a 2025 second-round pick, originally from Minnesota. Houston will receive Diggs, a 2024 sixth-round pick, and a 2025 fifth-round pick.
By trading Diggs before June 1, the Bills will incur a $31 million dead cap charge in 2024. Diggs is signed through 2027.
A fifth-round pick in 2015, Diggs played his first five seasons with the Vikings before he was traded to Buffalo in 2020. He led the league in catches (127) and yards (1535) in his first season with the Bills.
Diggs’ production dipped a bit in 2023, but he still reached at least 100 catches (107) and 1,000 yards (1,183) for the fourth consecutive year. He’s eclipsed 1,000 yards receiving for the last six seasons.
But now the Bills have decided to move on with the Texans coming in to add him as another formidable weapon for rising second-year quarterback C.J. Stroud.
In 136 career games, Diggs has 810 receptions for 9,995 yards with 67 touchdowns.
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Are WRs going to become like running backs? KC won a Super Bowl without a stud WR.
It's all about the QB.
Draft Verse - skip Odunze?
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Mahomes is the ultimate cheat code. Kelce has basically been a WR1 for years and played like one in the playoffs. Rice broke the record for playoff receptions by a rookie before he done **** up.
Verse = most need, Odunze = BPA, therefore Odunze > Verse IMO.
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Also Keenan Allen will be 32 and now is the time to get a receiver opponents have to game plan for.
Trading back nets another good player plus maybe the long term elite center their offense has been begging for since Olin.
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I agree Odunze is the better of the 2. I dont like the idea of giving up Odunze to the Jets and Erin Rodgers. However its been said that Rodgers owns us
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Apparently by trading Diggs Buffalo believes they don't need a WR1. Maybe they draft a 2nd tier guy.
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Trading back nets another good player plus maybe the long term elite center their offense has been begging for since Olin.
Thats true but I cant give up Odunze to be Erin's go to receiver
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Also Keenan Allen will be 32 and now is the time to get a receiver opponents have to game plan for.
Trading back nets another good player plus maybe the long term elite center their offense has been begging for since Olin.
Allen and Bates/Coleman buys the Bears at least a year from having to address WR or Center early in this draft.
The problem with a trade down from #9 is if you don't go down far enough you only get a 3rd rounder in compensation. You drop too far and you go from a sure fire blue chipper at 9 to a very good player.
Verse appears to fit the mold of an Eberflus DE and could energize a weak pass rush. Odunze could be a playmaker for years and could prevent having to do a big contract with Allen or provide insurance if he just fails to produce. He is 32.
And we thought the decision to retain Fields and draft Williams was difficult.
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Get your difference makers while you can because hopefully you’re not drafting top 10 again for awhile.
Whether it’s a receiver, tackle or defensive player makes no difference.
Also have to do as much for Williams as possible because the carousel has to stop.
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Get your difference makers while you can because hopefully you’re not drafting top 10 again for awhile.
Absolutely
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A lot of talk about drafting Odunze or Verse, but why not Bowers at 9? Isn't Waldron's system built on to tight end sets? Add a big target for our rookie QB would hardly be a bad consolation prize. Say all three are available when we choose, and we trade back to 12 with Denver so they can grab a QB. We would have our choice of one of those three. I would believe that all three are blue chippers.
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A lot of talk about drafting Odunze or Verse, but why not Bowers at 9?
I wouldnt be against that. I like Bowers.
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It wouldn’t surprise me if Bowers and McConkey turn out to be the most successful pass catchers in this draft.
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A lot of talk about drafting Odunze or Verse, but why not Bowers at 9? Isn't Waldron's system built on to tight end sets? Add a big target for our rookie QB would hardly be a bad consolation prize. Say all three are available when we choose, and we trade back to 12 with Denver so they can grab a QB. We would have our choice of one of those three. I would believe that all three are blue chippers.
Bowers will be there at 9 and probably later. But the bigger question is why would Denver trade up with the Bears? Its sounding more and more like 4 QBs go in the top 6 picks.
But if the Bears drop to 12 then I agree that one of the 3 will be there for the Bears.
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@AdamSchefter
This just in: Eagles and LT Jordan Mailata reached agreement on a three-year, $66 million extension that includes $48 million guaranteed and a $20 million signing bonus, per sources. The deal ties Mailata to Philadelphia through the 2028 season. The $22 million per-year average puts him behind only Laremy Tunsil, Trent Williams and Andrew Thomas amongst the NFL’s highest-paid offensive tackles.
1:58 PM · Apr 4, 2024
Braxton Jones is licking his chops. In the VERY unlikely event that the Bears would have to choose between Rome or Alt, they might have to flip a coin.
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I would take Alt every time. He isnt an option without trading up.
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True. Alt is who the Titans go for @7
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Bowers will be there at 9 and probably later. But the bigger question is why would Denver trade up with the Bears? Its sounding more and more like 4 QBs go in the top 6 picks.
But if the Bears drop to 12 then I agree that one of the 3 will be there for the Bears.
Michael Penix may be the wildcard. He seems to be rising, especially after running a respectable 40, and doing well in the standing jump. His biggest red flag, maybe his only one, was the injury history. There is no denying he has a live arm, and sees the field well. If 5 QB's are chosen in the first 9, assume Nabors, MHJ, and Alt are gone - there we are. And doesn't seem like there is always one head scratcher in the first 10 picks?
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His injury history is a problem for him
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I saw a mock yesterday where we ended up with Nabers at 9…Odunze was taken by the Giants over him…
That was the first time I had seen that.
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I saw a mock yesterday where we ended up with Nabers at 9…Odunze was taken by the Giants over him…
That was the first time I had seen that.
I liked Nabors on Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C.
Good to see he's moved on to football even tho dead.
He always had that kind of upside.
What's the difference between Harrison Nabors and Odunze other then where they fall in the draft ?
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OJ....
He gone.
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Another reason why maybe getting a stud WR on rookie deal to align with the rookie QB to make a run is financially sensible...
@RapSheet
The #Eagles have paid another big-time, rising player. This time, WR DeVonta Smith gets a 3-year, $75M contract extension that includes $51M guaranteed, sources say. The deal was done by @kelt_crenshaw of @KlutchSports, and it keeps Smith in PHI for years to come. 💰 💰 💰
9:29 AM · Apr 15, 2024