I hope the see the value and move up to around 4 and take Cam Newton :-)
Discuss the other ****ty teams in the division...
The only QB scenario that concerns me even a little bit as a Bears fan is the Vikings taking Mallett and him actually keeping his head on straight and shredding our D for the next 10 years. The way drama follows that team around though I think that's a long-shot at best and a Leaf-type epic meltdown is more likely if he winds up there.
And even if Mallett keeps his nose clean, his Marino-esque mobility could translate to a short career against the likes of Raji, Matthews, Peppers and Suh.
I hope the see the value and move up to around 4 and take Cam Newton :-)
I think the Vikings are going to sign McNabb and draft a QB in the 2nd round. And they'll spend their 1st round pick on whatever defensive player they think will have the most immediate impact.
McNabb to the Vikes? Not the worst destination for him. McNabb probably has a good season or two left in him.
Fictional agent and strong arm twister Jack Bauer wouldn't have been able to pry information out of Green Bay general manager Ted Thompson, so you can imagine what it was like for the Packers beat reporters Thursday at Thompson's pre-draft news conference in Lambeau.
Basic, logical questions.
Kindly, nonspecific responses.
The draft is where the seventh-year GM has built the foundation for the Super Bowl champions, scooping up Aaron Rodgers, uncovering Nick Collins, discovering Greg Jennings and nabbing Clay Matthews.
Thompson's reputation for protecting his draft strategy is now legendary - just as the draft's popularity has exploded in the media with mock drafts, grades and speculation.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft, it's great," said Thompson. "But, quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they're talking about, because I'm supposed to know a lot and I don't know all the stuff those guys know."...
Love that last paragraph. Draft gurus spout off all sorts of critcal data and closely rate players by comparing an 8.2 to an 8.3 and in the final analysis, one guy is great, as advertised, and the other is bust.
Makes good reading and makes a living for the writers of this stuff but really not much truth in it.
Nobody can sign McNabb. They will have to work a trade for him. Washington signed him to an extension the week after they benched him.
Yeah. The week after they benched him for Grossman.
Agreed, and another thing you can never really know is how much of a draft pick's success or failure is environmentally related. For example, Cedric Benson busted spectacularly for the Bears but has had a very solid career with the Bengals. Conversely, I think it is very safe to assume that if Tom Brady had been drafted by the Bears, Browns or Cardinals he probably would have been out of the league within 3 years.
An example this year is the top 2 WR prospects (AJ Green and Julio Jones) who on paper have very little difference between them. It's entirely possible that one of them will be a star and one of them will bust. It's also possible that if they had each gone to the other's team, the situation would have been reversed.
Ultimately, a solid roster depends on your personnel people picking the right players and your coaches developing them. On both of those counts, clearly, the Bears have not met league standard.
Everybody kept waiting for the Deadskins to just cut Fat Albert too. It never happened till the season was over. A team in need of a QB can not just wait till the end of the year for the Deadskins to just cut him.
Talk around DC is just to keep him if you can't get what you want for him. He makes a great option if Rex gets hurt or flat out sucks. Which we all know both are highly possible. So do the Deadskins fans.
The 2nd WTF pick was Ponder to the Vikes. Let's just hand Fairley to the Lions. I never thought I'd see the run on subpar QBs like we did in this draft.
We would have been better off going into 2010 with Cutler, Hanie and LeFevour as our 3 rather than Todd Collins.
Not to mention, then we could have used this year's 5th rounder on another OL or a big WR.
I would be beyond shocked if Aromashadu was back with us for this season.
The coaches gave every indication last year that they want nothing to do with him.
I'm not quite ready to go on record saying he was a bad hire... but he's got a lot of work to do before this season and a lot to prove during it.
But, OTOH he is going to have a built in excuse if the labor situation doesnt come to a closure quickly. Hard to give him a fair evaluation if we dont have a proper preseason as well as regular season.
I have to agree here.
Let's pretend Bears can sign either Logan Mankins or Sidney Rice.
I take Rice.
Moot point as no free agency yet... :( Nice job owners and players, way to suck the excitement out of the off season
Packers fans might not like it, and Bears fans might not want him because of his Packers connections, but Jones would give Jay Cutler and Mike Martz another productive receiving talent to help improve their passing game.
a fast but undersized project (Knox) and a gadget guy (Hester). And we didn't address WR in the draft AT ALL.
Green Bay - Greg Jennings
Minnesota - Sidney Rice
Detroit - Calvin Johnson
Chicago - ?
Get it?
Because when some look at Jennings, Driver, Jones and Nelson...they see your best is maybe fourth in that group.
I think we'd all like to see Kellen Davis utilized more. But Martz trusted Manu more than any of the other TEs so he got the majority of snaps, especially when our O-line was so horrid early on.
As for Aroma - he's gone. No use talking about him anymore.
actually I don't think you need the tags for the link to work.
here is a link without the tags
www.packerssuck.com
I guess JJ will appreciate that urls are not censored so if he can put his cursings into URL form he can get away with it :-)
Boy thats a lot to go through just to be able to curse. Its hard for me to understand the necessity to do so
it may be a setting in your internet explorer browser.
Does it help if you hold down CTRL and click on the link?
I see the Bears winning this division this season.
Our defense can handle the Packed's offense but with us upgrading the line with Cirimi I feel pretty good going into the season so far.
Our defense can handle the Packed's offense but.
Maybe so but Finley and Starks should be playing the entire season this year.
Just for kicks keep an eye on Cobb at WR/KR and D.J. Williams at TE. These guys could surprise.
I concur that the Bears played GB extremely well on defense last season.
Minny isn't moving. They're getting their new stadium. We've already discussed that over a month ago.
Jacksonville is the team primed for a move to LA.
The Jacksonville team should have been placed in Memphis from day 1.
Fools.
Well they're going to be placed elsewhere soon. Looks like it'll be to JJ's city of LA.
Unfortunately they have a stadium that is just not worthy of an NFL team.
The NFL keeps tryign to put another team in LA despite several previous failures. People in LA just don't seem to give a **** about the NFL.
Thats up to the city of Memphis to solve that problem
No way the league OR TB would go for that. That's TB's market and Orlando is a quick drive east. Way too close.
Trouble is in a court of law you would have to explain Frisco-Oakland.
Or for that matter NYG-NYJ in the same stadium.
Favre didn't make the Vikings a team of puds. They have been culivating that image for a long time.
What was great about it was that Wolf recognized his error and got rid of Rhodes after one year.
You guys got that right. Sometimes I wonder about some GMs and owners. San Diego has underperformed for several years and they just make no coaching changes.
GB kept Bart Starr for 8 years; most of that time as GM/HC.
Hey its very hard not to puff your chests out when you have that NFC Central Division Championship ring instead of say...THE SUPER BOWL one.
Krap the bears are the thrid best team in the Central or fourth if the Vikes get a QB.
Bring it on bears...The Packers are younger and more talented.
Yup, 18 penalties to three, two touchdowns taken off the board...The Packers didn't let that happen again...
You never had a chance in the game. We played soft on Hanie until we needed too and then...INT to seal the deal.
One team is working hard to get where they want to be. The other is sitting on their ass enjoying where they are. I wonder which team will be better?
In brightest day, in darkest night. . .
Doz Bears will not escape my sight.
Let dem what worships Chicago's might,
Beware our power: Green Bay's Light!
Quoth the Green Lantern (From Mark Lawrence)
Most are just cartoons but this was the one they used live actors.
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/ambiguously-gay-duo/17w0ok5vd?q=ace+and+gary+the+ambiguous+duo&FORM=VIRE7 (http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/ambiguously-gay-duo/17w0ok5vd?q=ace+and+gary+the+ambiguous+duo&FORM=VIRE7)
Stadium gets cheaper, but deal isn't done (http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/124751418.html)
Heh. I don't think anyone for a minute believes in the sudden magical $200 million dollar reduction in the project. It's hard to imagine being able to pass a billion dollar stadium bill through a government that is currently shut down and can't agree how to fix a 5 + billion dollar deficit.
Fuuck you T-Paw. Fuuck you Gov. Dayton. Fuuck the duopoly Republican and Democrat political scam. Most importantly, fuuck you to the international banksters who run the governments and fuucked up economies here and around the world. (couldn't help it ::))
But...they are your FRIENDS...they know whats best for you.
Cant you trust them blindly as they lead you forward?
You already have.
St. Paul City Council to throw a flag at the Vikings stadium plan
(http://www.twincities.com/news/ci_18414700?source=rss)
The St. Paul City Council will go on record today publicly opposing a half-percent sales tax in Ramsey County as a means of funding a proposed Minnesota Vikings stadium in Arden Hills. The resolution, sponsored by six of the seven council members, will appear before the city council at its meeting today. It states that the council "recognizes the social and economic value of the Minnesota Vikings ... to the State of Minnesota," but 52 percent of the county's 12,000 taxable businesses are in St. Paul, and 47 percent of the county's taxable sales come from St. Paul businesses. In other words, St. Paul would shoulder $165 million of the county's $350 million contribution toward an Arden Hills stadium, equivalent to nearly doubling the city's property tax levy for a year. City council President Kathy Lantry said that as much as she wants to keep the Vikings in Minnesota, she couldn't imagine county leaders raising taxes that high to cover core functions such as maintaining parks, supporting social services and increasing the number of sheriff's deputies.
"Would the Ramsey County board vote for a...property tax increase of that much money to have expanded and ongoing everyday services? The answer is unequivocally no," she said. "Of course they wouldn't."
With the city facing cuts to state aid, the council's resolution says the city's focus should be on maintaining basic municipal functions such as police and fire department services, libraries and public works.
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I guess Hennepin county's plan for the Metrodome site can conceivably be back in play...or L.A.
Joseph from Wessington, SD
If you watched NFL Network’s top 100 players list, the Packers had the most players on the list, with seven players on it, even though I would disagree on what spots they went on the list. Hey, they made the list. What I thought that was cool was the NFC North had the most players overall. So are we the toughest division? We had 15 players on the top 100; two other divisions had 14, the NFC South and NFC East. The AFC had 51 players to the NFC's 49. The NFC had five players in the top 20, with two in the top 10 and one at the third spot. I already know who the best team is. Just something to think about and talk about until we get back to football.
Mike Spofford and I are launching a point, counterpoint series today. The first installment is an “AFC or NFC?” piece. You provide some worthy information. Based on the complaints I’ve received about NFL Network’s Top 100, I would’ve thought the Packers were totally ignored. Obviously, they were not. Yes, I believe the NFC North is a strong division, but I don’t think it’s the strongest in the league. I think the NFC South holds that distinction by a slim margin, mostly because the Bucs made the big jump up last season that I expect the Lions to make this season. If that, in fact, occurs, then the NFC North might be the best. Frankly, I think five divisions – NFC East, North and South and AFC East and North – are on the same plane.
Sorry offense? Didn't the Bears sweep the mighty Lions last year with that sorry offense?
Releasing receiver Bernard Berrian
??? ??? ??? Berrian wouldn't be playing out that huge contract that he signed? Never was worth it in the first place. I am glad the Bears let him walk at that price. I said that then and I say that now.
LOL, the clus-terfu-ck in Viking land continues...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/20/metrodome-turf-needs-to-be-replaced-after-only-one-year/
Detroit going after Johnathan Joseph (http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Joseph-hotly-pursued/2ab13459-2fbe-4feb-a396-a3fcd4d9f355) while the Texans are going after both Joseph and Asomugha. Smart move. I hear some snoring at Halas Hall.
Detroit going after Johnathan Joseph (http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Joseph-hotly-pursued/2ab13459-2fbe-4feb-a396-a3fcd4d9f355) while the Texans are going after both Joseph and Asomugha. Smart move. I hear some snoring at Halas Hall.
I was wondering how much longer the Vikings were going to put up with Bryant McKinnie's declining play... looks like his time may finally be up.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/01/vikings-swipe-peytons-blind-side-protector/
Soon to be with Randy Moss as another ex-Viking on the street looking for work ?
News from Motown... Lions fans gotta just be going, "what the F"...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/nick-fairley-undergoes-surgery/
We don't play our 1st regular game season against the Lions till Oct 10 so we're probably not dodging a bullet there, unfortunately.
•Rookie Randall Cobb is working at all three receiving positions as both a kickoff and punt returner and even as the backup holder. His acceleration and aggressiveness in the open field were eye-opening, at least with the team in shorts and helmets. Although much could change, McCarthy said he is giving Cobb a longer look at punt returner than at kickoffs. He is hoping Green emerges to handle the latter.Packy,
•McCarthy has been complimentary of rookie tight ends D.J. Williams and Ryan Taylor. Both are athletic and have good hands. Because of Finley's return schedule and Andrew Quarless' hip flexor, Williams and Taylor both got good work with the first team. You have to wonder whether Williams, especially, will challenge Quarless' roster spot.
Wondering if this isn't a case of the QB making all the WR's look good. A.R. is best in league in my opinion.
How are the sloppy practices coming?
I keep telling you guys that the Lions are snake bit. They get good high draft picks only to have them either become a bust or injured and lost for periods of time.
They are the unluckiest team in the league!
These suckers are expanding their stadium capacity but our team has the NFL's smallest stadium. Disgraceful.....
So how can you expand Soldier Field? You cant. The current stadium is centrally located. Dont know where a new stadium could be built that would satisfy everybody. Too much politics involved. Then there is the issue of who is going to pay for a new stadium. We know the Bears wont. The taxpayers in Chicago sure shouldnt have to as they are already overtaxed to line the machines pocket. Its just a political mess. And nobody wants to drive out to the burbs to watch a game. I dont have a solution. Maybe Obummanuel does. Tax tax tax and more taxes
Not a workable solution Jackie
Soldier Field has landmark status Jackie. Thats why its built up like a space ship.
They could of made it bigger and better but they were not allowed to. It is a money maker but could of been a bigger money maker. Stupid politicians getting in the way of progress yet again.
They had been trying for a new stadium for years. They felt this was the best deal they were going to get. It apparently worked because they suddenly went from cheap to big spenders on their football team after the stadium was re-done.
The Division is ours fellas...try to finish third.
Yea, the Saints exposed us.....for being a very good team.
Just what do you think they are going to expose the bears for in week 2?
Not sure if it was Kreutz, but did you guys check the NO center getting stood up and knocked back 5 yards on the last play (when the Saints tried to run up the middle from the one yard line...)
: )
Man, I don't think the Bears can beat the Pack or the Saints.
Noticed the Kreutz matador play a few times as well. He really is at the end of his run and I'm glad we got rid of him when we did.
GB gets Cam Newton and the surging Panthers
Minny gets Tampa Bay
Detroit vs the Chiefs
If you chewed them first they would not be little green apples when they came out. Just saying.
No thanks.
Even if Angeblow had a bunch of 1sts and 2nds he still would draft rubbish players
Two games into the season and we're already looking up at the Lions.
:-[
Lions were lucky to play the Bucs & Chiefs. Let's see how they perform against some competition before crowning them.
I see the Bears winning this division this season.
Hell the Packers are so damn good they aren't even practicing together. The Bears offense is getting together three times a week. But with a young team coming off a Super Bowl win I am sure it won't be problem. Packers are going undefeated and winning the SB again. Just ask them or their fans. Dumb asses!
I suspect the Bears are going to own the Packers this year. The Packers think they are all set and aren;t even bothering to work out with one another. The Bears offense is working together three times a week with Cutler setting it up. The Bears coaches are going over film and coaching each other up and bringing in other coaches. What are the PAckers coaches doing other then enjoying their vacation?
One team is working hard to get where they want to be. The other is sitting on their ass enjoying where they are. I wonder which team will be better?
Sure it would be nice if our long snapper could give us solid sub play on the OL as well... but I know of very few teams where that's the case.
Our offense is so dependent on FGs that I'll take a rock steady long snapper like Mannelly even if he doesn't contribute anywhere else.
It has been claimed that the most important parts of a game are the last two minutes of the first half and the last two minutes of the game.
Wasn't GB suppose to stink because they did not do any offseason practices together. That kind of stuff is completely overrated. Comes down to talent and coaching.
PONDER!
HANIE !
Suh told police he was trying to avoid a stopped taxicab when he lost control of the 1970 Chevrolet Coupe.Just like he was just trying to 'get up' when nailed with the stomping penalty.... nevermind the video evidence to the contrary. This guy is a walking douche....
http://www.frontiernet.net/~packers12/mil.jpg (http://www.frontiernet.net/~packers12/mil.jpg)
At Lambeau Field 11/11. Not shown on TV.
That is very cool
I just heard on the Radio that GB is a team interested in trading for Tebow. Why? Go figure...
I wouldn't go as far as saying Tebow beat the Bears last year.
I would say Marion Barber beat the Bears in that game. Tebow was just there to take the glory.
I wouldn't go as far as saying Tebow beat the Bears last year.
I would say Marion Barber beat the Bears in that game. Tebow was just there to take the glory.
Tebow did put up points late in the game. I don't blame Barber entirely. Even after he fumbled in OT the defense didn't stop Tebow from moving them down the field in FG position.
I just heard on the Radio that GB is a team interested in trading for Tebow. Why? Go figure...
No they want him as a back up QB. They think they can teach him to throw.
Teach him to throw? Didn't he win 2 national championships as a QB?
He took a 1-4 team this past season to the playoffs (7-3 record).
Didn't he throw a game winning TD in OT against the Steelers? Perfect pass too! He also threw for 316 yards by the way.
He threw for 206 yards against the Vikings while putting up 35 points.
He threw for 308 yards against the Texans in their back yard back in 2010 and won the game coming from behind.
Sure he's had bad games but his passing isn't horrid.
I think the Broncos just played ultra conservative with him at QB because he's not the typical drop back passer. He's also a running QB and that dimension is something Fox didn't know how to deal with.
If he goes to another team that really wants him at QB instead of fullback if given a chance to play I feel he'll be a much better passer if given talent around him and a coaching staff that believes in him.
His completion percentage is less then 50%.
How soon you all forget...we lost because of the prevent defense. Horrible.
it would be nice to get to take the Packers for granted.....
Any time the Packers play the Bears never bet on either one - no matter the odds.
Trouble for a division rival...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/02/mikel-leshoure-doesnt-show-up-for-arraignment/
Missed last year hurt, now the drug thing... gotta wonder how many more mulligans he's gonna get in Motown.
I don't understand the obsession for a team in LA. They have had several teams try and fail there.
Exactly! I dont see it happening. Large city but poor draw. They have USC and UCLA right there who draw better. The Rams and the Raiders failed miserably in LA
You would call a team in town from 1946 to 1994 a failure?
You have set some standards that no one can ever reach. :D
Packrat, I'm unsure I would call NO or SEA quality opponents this year though by the 3rd week or so Flynn might have SEA on the right direction.
If NO sniffs 8-8 this year I'll be surprised.
The bad part about this is they likely will get a high #1 pick next year as a "reward".
I think in my punishment I would have moved their #1 to the bottom of the round.
Looks like the Vikes are staying in Minny and the NFC North will remain intact. Good for everyone AFAIC.
[font face=courier]Season
Team
Record
Playoff Results
NFL Central
1967
Green Bay Packers
9-4-1
Won Super Bowl II
1968
Minnesota Vikings
8-6-0
Lost NFL Divisional Playoffs
1969
Minnesota Vikings
12-2-0
Lost Super Bowl IV
NFC Central
1970
Minnesota Vikings
12-2-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
1971
Minnesota Vikings
11-3-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
1972
Green Bay Packers
10-4-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
1973
Minnesota Vikings
12-2-0
Lost Super Bowl VIII
1974
Minnesota Vikings
10-4-0
Lost Super Bowl IX
1975
Minnesota Vikings
12-2-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
1976
Minnesota Vikings
11-2-1
Lost Super Bowl XI
1977
Minnesota Vikings
9-5-0
Lost NFC Championship Game
1978
Minnesota Vikings
8-7-1
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
1979
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
10-6-0
Lost NFC Championship Game
1980
Minnesota Vikings
9-7-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
1981
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
9-7-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
1982+
Green Bay Packers
5-3-1
Lost NFC Second Round
1983
Detroit Lions
9-7-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
1984
Chicago Bears
10-6-0
Lost NFC Championship Game
1985
Chicago Bears
15-1-0
Won Super Bowl XX
1986
Chicago Bears
14-2-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
1987
Chicago Bears
11-4-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
1988
Chicago Bears
12-4-0
Lost NFC Championship Game
1989
Minnesota Vikings
10-6-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
1990
Chicago Bears
11-5-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
1991
Detroit Lions
12-4-0
Lost NFC Championship Game
1992
Minnesota Vikings
11-5-0
Lost NFC Wild Card Playoffs
1993
Detroit Lions
10-6-0
Lost NFC Wild Card Playoffs
1994
Minnesota Vikings
10-6-0
Lost NFC Wild Card Playoffs
1995
Green Bay Packers
11-5-0
Lost NFC Championship Game
1996
Green Bay Packers
13-3-0
Won Super Bowl XXXI
1997
Green Bay Packers
13-3-0
Lost Super Bowl XXXII
1998
Minnesota Vikings
15-1-0
Lost NFC Championship Game
1999
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
11-5-0
Lost NFC Championship Game
2000
Minnesota Vikings
11-5-0
Lost NFC Championship Game
2001
Chicago Bears
13-3-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
NFC North
2002
Green Bay Packers
12-4-0
Lost NFC Wild Card Playoffs
2003
Green Bay Packers
10-6-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
2004
Green Bay Packers
10-6-0
Lost NFC Wild Card Playoffs
2005
Chicago Bears
11-5-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs
2006
Chicago Bears
13-3-0
Lost Super Bowl XLI
2007
Green Bay Packers
13-3-0
Lost NFC Championship Game
2008
Minnesota Vikings
10-6-0
Lost NFC Wild Card Playoffs
2009
Minnesota Vikings
12-4-0
Lost NFC Championship Game
2010
Chicago Bears
11-5-0
Lost NFC Championship Game
2011
Green Bay Packers
15-1-0
Lost NFC Divisional Playoffs[/font]
The Minnesota Vikings new stadium will be talked in the same breath as the cowpokes stadium when it opens. A 70,000+seat stadium with a retractable roof. Super Bowl and Final fours will be played there.
Minnesota will have the most pro, college stadiums and arenas' per capita in the world.
Holy ****! A V2 sighting!
I dunno, maybe when your team only wins 3 games and you get swept by the Bears you aren't as apt to shoot off your mouth on a Bears board.
Almost makes you feel sorry for Megatron and Stafford... the two best players on that team and also it seems, the only ones who aren't complete tools.
It's rare I have much positive to say about Lovie but one thing I will give him is that embarrassing incidents like that have been relatively few and far between on his watch. Yeah there was that one incident with Kreutz a few years ago, the Briggs Lamborghini thing, the Tank Johnson stuff and Urlacher's baby-mama drama... but really, the Bears tend to be one of the better behaved teams in the league. And players who do have a tendency to cause or attract trouble (Tank, Benson, Sam Hurd, etc.) usually aren't kept on the team for more than a couple of seasons.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/27/lions-nick-fairley-arrested-for-dui-eluding-police/
I am guessing this guy is going to get suspended for a few games. The Lions are a mess.
I listed QB and WR...but I almost added CB. Most of what a CB does is defend receivers and you can validate that ability in OTAs. But a significant part of a CB's job is tackling and you can't do that in OTAs.
But pass rushers - no way. Wait till they put on the pads then let me know.
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The pro-Packers math problem that prompted Bears cornerback Charles Tillman to write a letter to a Chicago-area teacher. |
Good news! Packers kept WR Jarrett Boykin (Rookie 6-2, 217). Unfortuately that meant cutting WRs Borel and Gurley.
They wil play for some team this seaso. Mark it on the wall.
GB went mostly with all the young guys, again.
You are correct. The Packers are crying like crazy because the correct calls are being made against them. Must suck to have PI and holding called on you when you have not experienced that for years...
Apparently the league called in and told the replacement refs the Packers get all the calls. Cause now they are getting all the calls again like normal.
I think you are biased about the officiating. The announcres, who know something about the game, called the officiating bad on both sides of the ball. If yiou are honest about it, both teams got hosed numerous times.
Packers will be p*ssed Thursday night and out for blood in primetime. Bears OTOH may be a bit overconfident and if Tillman cant go that's huge.
Bears better strap it on and I hope our O is in sync from the get-go.
Packers have ALWAYS gotten the calls. DB's breathe on the Pack receivers and it's pass interferience. Meanwhile Packer DB's mug receivers and the refs "let them play"
Today the two worst calls I saw both went against SF, the helmet off unsportman and especially the refs picking up the block in the back call on the punt return. It was blatant and the guy never scores without it.
...Even with the regular officials back, the Packers were on the short end of another questionable call after being robbed of a win on a botched call by the replacement referees Monday night. It didn't cost them, however, because Garrett Hartley missed a 48-yard field goal after a holding penalty wiped out his go-ahead, 43-yarder.
The questionable call came after Rodgers' go-ahead, 11-touchdown pass to Nelson with seven minutes to play. Replays clearly showed that Darren Sproles fumbled the ensuing kickoff and Green Bay appeared to recover. The officials ruled Sproles was down by contact, but Green Bay was out of challenges...
Vikings in the NFC-N lead... who 'da thunk it?
The Bears do not play well in primetime games on the road and the Cowboys have enough firepower to put it to ya if you don't bring your best game against them.
It's not the officials fault that McCarthy ran out of challenges. He made a stupid challenge early in the game.
I think he is talking about the first one where everyone knew it was a wasted challenge.
Cowboys on deck tonight :)
I think he is talking about the first one where everyone knew it was a wasted challenge.
Only fags drink beer with a lime in it.
But then again, any respecting beer drinker doesn't go to El Charro to drink.
It was a bet and I think ACL lost it and had to buy him a dinner. He chose a pork chop place in Chicago or something. They took a picture outside in the parking lot with the sign behind them. I think ACL said he had to stand in the gutter and BEERFAN was standing on the curb or something like that.
It was probably a Zima...
I think it is back. I clicked the old link a few days ago and it came up with new posts. Been dead for ages though.
Pack played to win, their defense is just awful.
Maybe AP will get player of the week honors? THat seemed to be our mantra this season, would love to see the Vikes go in and roll the Pack now.
I am going to be pulling for the Seahawks and Vikings from here on out.
Interesting though, you look at the final standings. Pack 11- 5, Vikes 10 - 6, Bears 10 - 6. The big surprise was the Vikes and not the Lions who finished 4 - 12. Strongest division in football, record wise...
Vikings new stadium.....
(http://stmedia.startribune.com/images/21stadium0929.jpg)
Here's (http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/10/16/vikings-stadium-photos/) some other drawings from the winning designer complete with the Jerrytron.
What will be interesting is how they'll try to cram Queens fans into a 40,000 seat college stadium for 2 years during construction.
What will be interesting is how they'll try to cram Queens fans into a 40,000 seat college stadium for 2 years during construction.
Yeah those late season games could get interesting especially. That will be another outdoor game for the Bears those two years.
What will be interesting is how they'll try to cram Queens fans into a 40,000 seat college stadium for 2 years during construction.
Fisher is making his bed with the Rams, isn't he? Janoris Jenkins, Titus Young, Cortland Finegan... Nice combination, this should start to get interesting. Tank Johnson and Cedric Benson may also be available
Rams are the Bengals of the NFC.
I'd rather have 10 Corey Grahams and Bobby Engrams, than what they are putting together. Pacman is available...
And the Honey Badger in the draft...
A 20 year old who smokes pot? Shock :o
This is a pick worth the risk for some team. I wouldn't mind spending a 4th on him...
He may be a talent, but with so few picks can we use one on a CB? That would seem sort of like a luxury pick.
That can't be! The resident genius here said all NFL teams want to hire OFFENSIVE MINDED COACHES as HC. This must be a hoax!
The rules are all geared towards offense now. Therefore all teams want offensive minded coaches.
Lions Adding Reggie Bush
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/13/bush-lions-have-a-deal/
If the Packers wind up with Steven Jackson the NFC North is gonna be absolutely STACKED with RB talent.
And we have no LBs to stop them
Briggs is here, Roach is probably gone (meeting with the Raiders today) and Urlacher is in limbo.
wouldn't surprise me if we let Urlacher walk.
And i still say, the way I would defend the read option is pretty simple. Blast the quarterback whether he holds the ball or not. And while your at it it, go for his legs like you would a running back. In the read option, the QB has declared himself as a runner, and the protection of being a quarterback is gone. No more, one step, two step penalty. Forget the running back. Annihilate the qb everytime they run the play. Heck I might even commit two guys to blowing him up.
You would see that go out of the NFL very quickly, I can't be the only person thinking about this and I bet there are a few blows coming the ways of Kapernick, Wilson, and RG3
Agreed. After a few teams lose their star QB running it, it will be history. Either that or they will only run it with a back up or non-QB.
I wonder does Mike Wallace realize what a hot/humid environment like FLA does for asthma
yep...no escape from the pollen and allergens here either...particularly South Florida.
Here's the thing, even if he winds up with the Vikings, how much is he gonna bring them?
They can't even tap him for info about our offense because he has no clue what Trestman and Kromer have been cooking up.
Honestly, not to be cold but if they signed him and started him at MLB I could see Trestman running a bunch of plays right at him. Pretty sure he doesn't have the wheels to keep up with Forte and Martellus in the passing game, and I doubt he wants to take on Slauson, Long and Webb a whole lot either.
The roster is still 53 players and dress 45... I think those are the numbers. Most teams carry 6 WRs on the roster. Who stays for the Pack?
The roster is still 53 players and dress 45... I think those are the numbers. Most teams carry 6 WRs on the roster. Who stays for the Pack?
Ryan from Platteville, WI
Hey Mike, when you filled in for Vic a while back you answered a question regarding the Big M. Are you from Platteville? If so, what's your favorite Platteville memory?
That’s my hometown. My favorite memory was chasing after Jim McMahon on his motor scooter as he cruised around the college campus during Bears training camp, and when I finally cornered him for an autograph, he pretended to fall off the scooter and injure his wrist, claiming there was no way he could sign. When I just smiled and laughed, rather than throw the fit he might have been expecting from an undersized 12-year-old, he grabbed my pen and signed, then patted me on the head and said, “Take it easy, kid.” It wasn’t Mean Joe Greene with a Coke bottle and jersey, but I’ll take it.
The fact that Trestman didn't so much as give Tebow a tryout with the Bears tells me that at least person who could be considered an expert on the topic, doesn't think Tebow has the stuff.
I would love to see Tebow on the packers roster IF he were trying out at TE.
Don't be sneaky, now.
The other thing is, it seems like Bama players wind up getting injured a lot once they get into the NFL.
Posted by Josh Alper on August 13, 2013, 12:16 PM EDT
Desmond BishopAP
When Desmond Bishop signed with the Vikings, a common response was to wonder whether or not he’d take over the middle linebacker job from Erin Henderson.
Henderson has maintained his grip on the job and now the question around Bishop is whether or not he’ll wind up making the 53-man roster in Minnesota at all. Bishop missed the preseason opener with a groin injury after missing all of last season with a torn hamstring, which left coach Leslie Frazier to say that he needs Bishop to prove he can stay on the field if the team is going to keep him around in the regular season...
Looking like a good decision by Thompson.
I hope no one else wasted time watching the fiasco in GB.
Must have been frustrating for obnoxious Pete Carroll watching his starters score 3 points sin over a full half a game plus.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/26/no-ligament-damage-for-kevin-williams/
I saw this play last night and the low block that San Fran player put on him was intentional, blatant and extremely dirty. THAT's the kind of thing that should be drawing a $21K fine, not the clean hit Bostic made last week.
If they are wanitng info on our offense from Webb I am guessing they are going to come up empty or misinformed. The guy obviously had no clue what he was supposed to be doing in it.
If they are wanitng info on our offense from Webb I am guessing they are going to come up empty or misinformed. The guy obviously had no clue what he was supposed to be doing in it.
f they are wanitng info on our offense from Webb I am guessing they are going to come up empty or misinformed. The guy obviously had no clue what he was supposed to be doing in it.
If signing players off your division rival's scrap heap provided any value then the Bears' should be signing ex-Packers.
Offenses have too many options and variations and change week to week. And regardless of the play call it's all about execution.
I watched Webb play every game over the 3 seasons and formed my opinions based on his performance between the lines, not on his social media presence or perceived personality flaws etc.
Now I must admit I didn't get to see many of the PS games nor did I see him in practice and maybe his play or possibly focus wasn't all there in training camp or PS which contributed to him being cut.
But here's what Emery had to say about Webb and his recent play and play last season where he started all 16 games at the most difficult position on the offensive line:
“Coming into this fall, we were very optimistic that he was going to be our starting right tackle and would continue to improve as a player,” Emery explained Monday during a news conference at Halas Hall. “He never gained the consistency, that sufficient level of consistency that we want out of our players, so at the end his performance wasn’t to our expectation level that we felt we needed to move forward with it.”
“Really, for J’Marcus, he had played, I will say that 14 out of the 16 games last year he was sufficient or better,” Emery said. “He had a lot of good games in that we grade sufficient, good, very good. Fourteen out of those 16, they were at least at the sufficient level, which you can win with that player and his performance on that particular day. Two of them were below that line. The obvious games were the first Green Bay game and the San Francisco game.”
Does anyone have an opinion on WR Jennings performance with the Vikings?
Hey do you want to get rid of concussions ?
Get rid of the plastic football helmets and go back to leather helmets.
Then lets see sombody lead with a helmet.
JJ - That is crazy, although that trend would have changed this week with Ponder on the bench, and K-nick having a good game Thursday
Never bet on a Bears-Packers game.
We're gonna need a few miracles the next few weeks as well. Ehh I'm just kidding myself if I think it's actually going to happen......is the 14' Draft topic up yet??
PR, how did Tolzein do? from the stats it looks like he had a decent game for a guy pretty much off the street with no reps. It appears he is an upgrade over Wallace.
Considering the conditions I was quite impressed with Tolzien's performance. He looked like he belonged in an NFL game. One good thing from the game was his showing. I am confident that the Packers have found a well-qualified #2 QB. He was let down by the suddenly inept defense.
I think the Pack has a chance in the games without Rodgers and with Wallace on the bench.
Tolzien sucks wait till he gets hit a few times....those happy feet start gittering....then he gives up the ball. 2 picks!
Peckers end up 7 and 9
For the third straight year!
Congratulations Green Bay Packers on winning the NFC NORTH.
Lovie may relish the chance to play the Bears twice a year.
Tucker ain't all that either. Its like a car. Everything is fine until it breaks. You have to fix it. He didn't fixed it at all.
Lovie may relish the chance to play the Bears twice a year.46 nice post
If I were Lovie Dovie, I'd "slide" into the Bucs job instead. The Loins job is a coach killer. He'd be gone much sooner with them. They just don't have it together up there....even WITH all that talent and no injuries, couldn't get the job done....
Caldwell had the endorsement of his old boss Tony Dungy, and has the same kind of calm demeanor which the Lions could use
Happiness....
is a warm gun...
hmmm, Beatles "White Album" reference, interesting
Had to mention Bears and Cubs in same sentence, didn't ya J......ugggh.....
THE STATE OF AFFAIRS IN THE NFC NORTH IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 2014
Is this anybodys division in 2014 ?
Is it the same Packers own it ?
Those are the two questions.
Two coaches got fired because they couldnt beat the Packers.
Is the CHICAGO coach the soon to be third ?
What teams will remain healthy and which not?
Bears need a crapload of help on D to even be competitive this year. Peanut will probably be gone. Briggs isn't the Briggs we've known and loved. Age is catching him. I see another 8-8 season unless we get some top quality talent on the D side, especially the line. Do that, we got a decent shot at being pretty darned good and HOPEFULLY this staff will be smart enough to retain McCown for when Cutley goes down for his annual injury whatever.
If Finley is healthy, he would look real good lined up opposite of Martellus Bennett.
If Finley is healthy, he would look real good lined up opposite of Martellus Bennett.
If only we could PAY Minnie to take Conte off our hands ...
but I dont think thats legal.
Can we trade him for one of those sausage guys that runs around Milwaukee County Stadium ?
Maybe knockwurst but not bratwurst. Much too valuable.
We'd need boot.
Noonan is quite critical of Cutler. I'm not sure that I would agree with him.
By PaulNoonan @BadgerNoonan on Jul 27 2014, 1:00p 26
The fact is that because of Josh McCown, the Bears got exceptional quarterback play last season. Jay Cutler wasn't bad, but he was more in line with what we expect from Jay Cutler, quarterback whispering be damned.*
*While I have no statistics to back up what I am about to say, it is my professional opinion that Jay Cutler is basically an uncoachable dumbass, and will continue to be exactly what he is for the rest of his career.
I heard some discussion on the radio yesterday. They were discussing the supposed 5 playoff teams from last year that wont make the playoffs this year. The one that caught my attention was the Packers. And were the Pack not make the playoffs who would make the playoffs from the North. ;D ;D
Looking at the 2013 stats - Peppers had 3 zero tackle games and 6 one tackle games.
Incredible!
Peppers is somewhat of a mystery. He did not play like a star last year. We will soon know whether it's age or motivation or what.
He will almost certainly have fewer starts this year and play various positions to maximize his opportunities to succeed.
Packy,
Heres the question that has to be asked ...
you got Peppers ... we got Jared Allen ...
which would you want ?
Ed Hockule was at camp and calling penalties. DBs complaining about how much tougher the calls will be this season. Rodgers is happy.