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Title: Draft Night
Post by: Dave23 on April 27, 2017, 10:56:20 am
Or do we trade down???
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: dallasbear on April 27, 2017, 11:23:46 am
I voted Thomas but go on record wanting Trubisky.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: AZSteve on April 27, 2017, 03:20:00 pm
going with Watson...
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: WshflThinking on April 27, 2017, 03:38:36 pm
I want to vote for a 3 down starter so I'll take Adams.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Eastcoastfan on April 27, 2017, 04:10:09 pm
Trade down ....
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Dave23 on April 27, 2017, 04:25:38 pm
I still prefer Allen, but I'm going with Adams, although I have a funny feeling Deshaun Watson is going to be a Bear somehow.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Sportster on April 27, 2017, 04:31:04 pm
Yep, really feel like they're headed towards Watson....
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: 46 on April 27, 2017, 04:36:39 pm
Take anybody that's still standing at the end of the season that did a least as good as they did at the start of season. No more stupid reaches.  I doubt if the Bears will ever get a full season out of White, hope they do, but based on history, no. I know he tried to build up, but looking back his body said no. Don't do that. 
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Jackiejokeman on April 27, 2017, 05:42:27 pm



 Every time they show the Rocky statue , you must take a shot of Jack Daniels.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Sportster on April 27, 2017, 07:21:21 pm
Are u kidding me? We moved UP?? WTH?....strange...
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: WshflThinking on April 27, 2017, 07:24:02 pm
And they draft a clipboard carrier for Dallas. Woo Hoo
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Jackiejokeman on April 27, 2017, 07:37:03 pm



 Excuse me ... I've cleaned up most of the vomit.


 We gave up WHAT to get WHAT ????????????????????????????????


 Davebear must be ejaculating in his pants.


 This is last years Goff pick ... except worse.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Sportster on April 27, 2017, 07:42:51 pm
Dang near a Ricky Williams type deal. Is Ditka still around? Gave up the house for this guy. Can only shake my head......it's the Bears...
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: WshflThinking on April 27, 2017, 07:57:23 pm
The crazy way I am looking at this right now. The Jets wanted Trubisky. We moved up to get him. The Jets at #6 took our player Jamal Adams. I wonder after the 1st round is over there isn't a trade.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: wmljohn on April 27, 2017, 08:13:23 pm
I hate having to pull for a QB to just be good enough. For once I want one that is a lock to be great. I feel like I'm rooting for Cade McNow or Rex Grossman again.


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Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: dallasbear on April 27, 2017, 10:09:27 pm

Who's the GM of this board!?

Somebody once said that a long time ago.  LOL

Pace has got balls...huge move.   Sorry we didn't get that strong safety that's going to turn this franchise around or Jonathan Allen...did he get drafted yet?  Or that cornerback that didn't even go top 10.

What does Brian Hoyer and Mike Glennon and Sanchez and Matt Barkley all have in common?  They are all losing QBs that may get you to .500.  And most of you just accepted another loser like Glennon like he's something special.

I didn't. And neither did Pace.

Get some balls...take a chance.  I like Pace's move.   
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Jackiejokeman on April 27, 2017, 10:24:12 pm



 Dal,


 We should have never hired Glennon ...


 we should have never drafted Trubisky.


 One fuuck up stacked on another fuuck up does not a good team make.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Pekin on April 27, 2017, 10:29:26 pm
The Browns are killing it. 
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Jackiejokeman on April 27, 2017, 10:37:34 pm



 
The Browns are killing it. 


 We could have been Duck , we could have been.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: WshflThinking on April 27, 2017, 10:38:02 pm
I like Pace's move.

He should be fired. We get an Osweiler at #2? Good Grief. My mother could have drafted better from her coffin. I'll say this if Trubitsky is so good he should start game one in September, If not Pace should be fired. He either has wasted 19 million on Glennon, or he has wasted the #2 pick in the draft, which is it?
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Jackiejokeman on April 27, 2017, 10:42:59 pm



 Frisco is killing it too. After raping us.


 Reuben Foster.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: dallasbear on April 27, 2017, 11:38:55 pm

Wshful

Have you ever f***ing watched Trubisky play a game?  I doubt it.  You just read sh**t on the web and come up with your same tired whining.

Huge rumor yesterday was Browns taking Tribusky at #1.   So its not some rectal extraction.

And if you looked at Trubisky's grade, he was higher than #1 Jameis Winston, #2 Marcus Mariota, #1 Jared Goff #2 Carson Wentz.

Now go out and buy yourself a Trubisky jersey...
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: dallasbear on April 27, 2017, 11:45:56 pm

Yep, the Bears gave up the farm...#3 and #4.

Last year that would have been Jonathon Bullard and Nick Kiwatosoki. 

And do you really think Glennon is going to last the entire season?   We lost 3 QBs last year before Barkley took over.   Trubisky will play next year.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: davebear on April 27, 2017, 11:54:46 pm
30 years of no QB's and everybody shits there pants when we get the best one available.

I wouldn't have done it either but now that it's done I'm pulling for the guy.  He has uncanny accuracy.  I've heard very little criticism on his game other than he hasn't played enough to really know him.

Like Kurt Warner said "you're not going to win without a quarterback....go get one."

Cam Robinson, Dalvin Cook, Forrest Lamp still on the board.  That gives us a good chance for the two or 3 good corners left, or Budda Baker the safety, or Marcus Maye.

NFLN said GB who has the first pick is getting calls from teams wanting to move up for Davis Webb and Deshone Kizer.

Pace will be left with a tough choice.  Several projected first rounders available.

Maybe the QB's get taken and someone wanting Forrest Lamp or Dalvin Cook will trade and give us our third back.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Dave23 on April 28, 2017, 07:48:55 am
Sidney Jones, Malik McDowell, Marcus Maye, Cam Robinson
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: WshflThinking on April 28, 2017, 08:55:04 am

Have you ever f***ing watched Trubisky play a game?  I doubt it.  You just read sh**t on the web and come up with your same tired whining.

Actually I did, 2 to be exact. Was I impressed? NO. I call him lucky and he had decent teamates in a weak conference. And I fail to see where these numbers you tout that he is the best. Another crack of yours, If Trubisky is so great why were Pace and the Bears given a C- grade for their pick? And will Glennon last the season? Thats hard to say. Nobody can predict that, not even you with your cristal ball. What is going to hurt Glennon the most is his crappy receivers. And even were Glennon injured we have Sanchez as a backup. And for your information Trubisky might not even be active for any game beings he will be 3rd string. If Long is healthy I believe that chances of Glennon staying healthy for the season are good.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: ISF on April 28, 2017, 09:30:27 am
I won't have a problem with this if we trade down in the 2nd round and recoup at least one of those mid-round picks. There's a lot of secondary talent left. Defensive talent in general is still really good. Kevin King, Budda Baker, Jaleel Johnson are 3 at the top of my list.

Chris Burke of SI gave the Bears a D for trading 3 mid-round picks to get the highest-graded QB in the draft and gave KC a B+ for giving up higher draft picks to move up and take a guy with a lower grade out of a system that has never produced a decent QB. So the talking heads obviously don't have a clue.

We haven't gone first round since Grossman. Don't know that we've ever gone QB this high. He doesn't have to start right away and his pedigree is pretty good. Just a lack of games at college level, which, given the differences between the college and Pro games, might not be an awful thing.

Admit I was hoping for Adams, but then you're looking at Peterman or Kaaya in round 2. Let's see what shakes out. I like the depth chart at QB better than the past though.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: dallasbear on April 28, 2017, 09:31:53 am
Go check nfl.com for their combine grades on the 5 QBs.  Trubisky's grade is right there with every single one.

As for receivers, the Bears let Jeffery walk.  Stupid.  But that's another story.

Every QB gets sacked.  Bears line  last year was pretty good protecting the QB yet Cutler and Hoyer went down.
And Longs replacement was Ok - most QB pressure comes from the tackles. 

I have no idea whether Trubisky is going to excel he's definitely an unknown but  Glennon is a known quantity.

Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: davebear on April 28, 2017, 10:02:03 am
Packers have the first pick in the second round.

Last night Ian Rappaport, who was right on a lot of things, said a Packers source told him teams were calling them about a trade up for Kizer and Webb.

That would be to the Bears advantage because if two QB's are picked before the Bears players like Dalvin Cook (who some felt was the best back) Cam Robinson, Forrest Lamp, Budda Baker are players with first round projections would be available. 

I've seen mocks from reputable NFL people who had the UConn safety at the end of the first round.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: dallasbear on April 28, 2017, 10:34:16 am
From a pure need standpoint I think we need to target 3 spots with picks 2, 4, 5.
FS CB DE

We have added Demps and Deiondre Hall along with the incumbents from last year including last years rooks Bush and Houston-Carson.

At CB we added Cooper and Amukamura and BW Webb.  Plus Fuller should be ready hopefully.  And there's Banks and Bausby.

DE opposite Hicks is Unrein and Bullard.  We lost Corny Washington to the Lions.

So do you take ONE stud at 36 or do you drop down and add a 4th rounder?

Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: davebear on April 28, 2017, 11:10:26 am
Score is reporting the Browns Cheifs and Texans were talking to the 9ers about the second pick.

Makes sense since the Chiefs and Texans did trade up for QB's
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: method on April 28, 2017, 12:29:23 pm
Forget need. OT, FS Cb.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: dallasbear on April 28, 2017, 12:51:45 pm
Teams rarely forget need.

OT is mid-level need but I see Cam Newton is still out there.

Tempting.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: method on April 28, 2017, 12:53:56 pm
Go get Cam... give Turbinsky a Dak Prescott line.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: wmljohn on April 28, 2017, 02:12:17 pm
Charlie Caserly a Former GM was asked about the trade up move the Bears made.  His evaluation was they gave up two thirds and a fourth for a QB they think is going to a franchise QB.  Who cares what others think.  That was their guy and they gave up nothing to get him. 

3rd rounders only have a 30% chance of success in the NFL.  Charlie Caserly's numbers not mine.  His evaluation is, they gave up two picks who would only have a 30% change to make it and one pick with even less % for a Player they think is the real deal.  That is how you do it when you are running a draft.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: dallasbear on April 28, 2017, 03:28:59 pm
Bears have 2017 first and second as well as 2018s first and seconds.

Pace made a bold move if he's right he's a star if not he joins the Angelo/Emery club.

And Rosenblog ridicules the trade so I like  Trubiskys chances better.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: navigator on April 28, 2017, 05:19:24 pm
Cutler cost a lot more than Trubisky though Trubisky will be lucky to be as good as Jay was.
Hopefully he is a winner coming into his own.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: ISF on April 28, 2017, 06:33:54 pm
And there you go. Reaccumulate picks. I'm ok with the trade.  Moved down 9 slots is all.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Dave23 on April 28, 2017, 06:40:28 pm
Yep, with Robinson and McDowell off the board, easy decision...
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Sportster on April 28, 2017, 07:38:29 pm
Quote
3rd rounders only have a 30% chance of success in the NFL.  Charlie Caserly's numbers not mine.  His evaluation is, they gave up two picks who would only have a 30% change to make it and one pick with even less % for a Player they think is the real deal.  That is how you do it when you are running a draft. 

With that line of reasoning, Ditka must have been a friggin genius to give up his entire draft to go for Ricky Williams lol.....
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Jackiejokeman on April 28, 2017, 08:33:49 pm



 In the waiting to see what happens next mode :


 Pace assures his paycheck because everybody has to wait and see how what he drafted turns out.


 Since Glennon will be the starter and Trubisky will not.


 That's job security.



Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on April 29, 2017, 07:08:47 am
Hey guys, what did I miss?  LOL  Was on the road and my work computer blocks this site.  Dallas called it wanting Trubiskey, I called 2 QBs drafted with first two picks so I was half right.  I drove back from Detroit to Nashville listening to WSCR on Friday so I got a full earful of the talk.  I think the best comparison was made Dan Parkins.  He went over the last 10 years of the exact picks made at the draft position of the picks we gave up in the 3rd and 4th rounds.  In 10 years, the only player of note was Ronnie Harmon (wrong spelling) running back for Denver.  You wouldn't recognize and of the other names.

The grades that the talking heads out there assign to the draft are as accurate as the mock drafts, completely subjective.  They make fans feel good for the moment, but that is it.  You like grades?  How about our dynamic 2015 draft class?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000491802/article/2015-nfl-draft-grades-bears-texans-falcons-earn-high-marks

"CHICAGO BEARS: GM Ryan Pace and head coach John Fox, both in their first year with Chicago, are intent on rebuilding the Bears with a bunch of intelligent, hard-nosed football players with non-stop motors. Fox, in particular, covets explosive big-bodied athletes at every position, which is why the Bears' draft features some of the top testers in pre-draft workouts. Kevin White is a dynamic pass catcher with exceptional speed, quickness and burst. He is a natural vertical stretch receiver who could blossom as a WR1 in the Windy City opposite Alshon Jeffery. Defensive tackle Eddie Goldman is a behemoth on the interior, but he plays light on his feet and provides the Bears with a run-stuffer/pocket-pusher at the point of attack. Offensive lineman Hroniss Grasu and running back Jeremy Langford didn't command a lot of attention during the pre-draft process, but each is a rock-solid prospect with the potential to contribute immediately as a role player. GRADE: A-"



The question comes down to only this.  Do you like that the Bears picked the top QB of a class FINALLY or would it have been better to push it off another year?  We have been pushing it off for years. 
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on April 29, 2017, 07:19:12 am
Everyone on the Score and every writer in the Tribune except Steve Rosenbloom are behind the pick, just saying...

Funny story, when I left Detroit at 2am, I got a chance to listen to the score over night.  I can't remember the guys name but he was heading to Disney World in Orlando after his show.  Apparently he doesn't follow college football closely because when the got to the recap and was pronouncing the names of players he kept calling Jabrill (JA-brill) Peppers, calling him JA-Quill Peppers.  He did that every update which was probably about 5 times, and never corrected it.  So either he wrote his own update and miswrote the name, or someone pranked him at the Score and he didn't know it.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Jackiejokeman on April 29, 2017, 12:50:59 pm



 

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The question comes down to only this.  Do you like that the Bears picked the top QB of a class FINALLY or would it have been better to push it off another year?  We have been pushing it off for years. 


 Mayock said no QB in this draft was first round material. Wait until next year.


 We started a panic that the rest of the League bought into.


 Luckily when we finally drafted a DB he suffered a season ending injury last year keeping with a long standing BEARS tradition.


 
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: davebear on April 29, 2017, 01:02:45 pm
Chad Kelly should be off the board by now.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Dave23 on April 29, 2017, 01:19:35 pm
He should be. Worlds better than Josh Dobbs...

I hope he goes undrafted so he can choose where he goes.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: WshflThinking on April 29, 2017, 02:00:47 pm
Peterman isnt
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: dallasbear on April 29, 2017, 02:12:42 pm
Ran the numbers on the trade up.

Value for moving up in the draft from 3 to pick 2:
3rd rounder
4th rounder
5th rounder

Bears didn't give up the 5th but did give up next years 3.

I think the 49ers got a bit more than they should have but from what I read it sounded like when a QB is involved the charts go out the window.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Jackiejokeman on April 29, 2017, 02:30:59 pm



 
Peterman isnt


 Did Peterman play in the Senior game or the North-South game ?


 I know I saw him somewhere.


 
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: joki13 on April 29, 2017, 03:25:13 pm
 We could have had Desmond King with our 4th round draft pick,but,Pace figures we needed another interior lineman,F---'in amazing. This draft is by far the worst I can remember. I'll change my mind if Trubisky becomes a hall of fame QB.How many nobodies can one person draft in one draft. That will be the question asked in the Guiness Book of Records relating to our draft.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: davebear on April 29, 2017, 03:29:12 pm
True but it's clear nobody wanted Desmond King
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: dallasbear on April 29, 2017, 03:32:27 pm

I'll change my mind if Trubisky becomes a hall of fame QB

Oh really, how nice.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: davebear on April 29, 2017, 03:42:11 pm
I don't know why he drafted a guard but it could be Long is far from healthy.  He had serious ankle surgery and lost so much weight he didn't have the shoulder surgery.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: WshflThinking on April 29, 2017, 05:23:10 pm
I'll change my mind if Trubisky becomes a hall of fame QB

Oh really, how nice.

Same here Joki. Sad draft from top to bottom. Worst I've seen in years. My mother could have drafted better from her casket.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: WshflThinking on April 29, 2017, 05:27:06 pm
Jackie, Peterman was on the north squad we coached.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: joki13 on April 30, 2017, 09:00:33 am
dallas I get your sarcasm. I'm not downing the Trubisky pick cuz at least I can justify it. It's the rest of the draft which appears to be a waste of time. Small school players who do not necessarily represent our bigger needs. I hope to God Trubisky turns out to be a quality field general for years to come. I just think Pace traded away picks when we should have been stock piling them. Of course he most certainly would have wasted them. I'm almost of the mind to beg angelo to return.Geeez!
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: octagon on April 30, 2017, 09:29:42 am
I think as Bears fans we've just gotten so jaded in the last ten years, as we descend into cleveland territory, that we kind of expect failure and instinctively crap over all the draft picks.  I remember the Whitehair and Floyd picks getting no love last year.  The picks I really liked last year were Jordan and Bullard and i went with the consensus from experts and posters here that floyd and whitehair were bad picks.  So i was at 25% in terms of which picks i liked.  In his first draft (lauded by the analysts), Pace had limited success and guys who have been hurt.  His draft last year was the best the Bears have managed in a long time.  Im more then willing to give this years draft a chance, especially since i have no real other choice. 

Dallasbear's Trubisky love does inspire confidence, as I think hes one of the more football savvy posters here.  I'm looking forward to the bears giving other teams matchup problems in the passing game if the TE develops and the rb's skills translate to the nfl. 
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Dave23 on April 30, 2017, 11:12:20 am
I didn't hate the Floyd pick, I was just stunned and disappointed that we moved up and that it wasn't to take Tunsil.

As far as the Whitehair pick, I didn't see it as a great value pick, or a great need pick, but Pace obviously saw it as a BPA pick, and it has turned out nicely.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Jackiejokeman on May 01, 2017, 02:33:55 pm



 If a poll was put up as to this being the best or worse BEARS draft ...


 I wonder how fans would vote ?
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Pekin on May 01, 2017, 03:16:00 pm
We won't know the answer to that for several years. 

If Tribusky is a top ten franchise type QB then it will be the best in a very, very long time.  If he is a bust it is going to be among the worst.

I would say right now the majority of Bears fans don't like the draft.

I am willing to take a wait and see approach.  Maybe Glennon plays well but not great and Trubisky can sit for a year and learn then take over the following year.  Then we could either trade Glennon or keep him as a back up.

Wouldn't it be nice to have two decent QB's?

Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: 46 on May 01, 2017, 04:39:01 pm
More to the point, wouldn't be nice to have a gm and head coach that don't have nicknames like "captain crazy" and "check stealer"
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Pekin on May 01, 2017, 04:55:21 pm
The legend of Mitch Trubisky
Posted 3 hours ago

Eli Kaberon
Bears Web Writer


Mitchell Trubisky's Mentor Cardinals trailed the St. Ignatius Wildcats 56-55 in triple overtime of the 2012 regional final of the Ohio High School Athletic Association playoffs. With his team exhausted, Cardinals coach Steve Trivisonno told his senior quarterback before the drive that if they were to score a touchdown, they were going to follow that up with a two-point conversion try for the win. After the quarterback found the end zone on a 2-yard run, Trubisky knew exactly what play to call.

Eagle-9, X-return.

"It was our bread-and-butter play," Mentor receiver Brandon Fritts recalled to ChicagoBears.com. "A classic play, nobody could stop us. We ran it earlier in the game, scored a two-point conversion, same play. So we ran it again in the third overtime."

With Fritts lined up wide to the left, Trubisky took the snap out of the shotgun. As the quarterback rolled quickly to his left, Fritts faked as he was running a slant towards the middle of the field, only to stop his route and cut to the pylon at the goal line. Trubisky lofted a pass directly into Frits's waiting hands. Two points scored, game over. Mentor 57, St. Ignatius 56.
 
Bears rookie quarterback Mitch Trubisky played high school football at Mentor High School in Ohio.

During his three years as Mentor's quarterback, Trubisky had a lot of impressive moments. His first career start came as a sophomore, playing in front of thousands of fans at Cleveland Browns Stadium. By his junior year, he was among the most highly recruited quarterbacks in the country, committing to North Carolina over a host of blue chip programs, including Alabama and Ohio State. And just the week before the win against the Wildcats, in the regional semifinal, Trubisky threw for 478 yards in helping his team rally from a 21-point fourth-quarter deficit to beat Ohio powerhouse St. Edward. As a senior, Trubisky was named Mr. Ohio, throwing for 2,470 yards and 28 touchdowns in the regular season. He finished his prep career with a 30-8 record As he drove west on Highway 76 from Philadelphia to Mentor, a day after the Bears had traded up to the No. 2 pick in the 2017 NFL Draft in order to select Trubisky, Trivisonno couldn't help but bring up the St. Ignatius game. Four-and-a-half years after the dramatic playoff victory, the performance still sticks out in the coach's mind. It showcased everything Trubisky is, both as a person and a player.

"When he got to his senior year, he was incredible. We had a really young team at nearly every other spot, but he just put us on his back," Trivisonno said. "St. Ignatius, who has won like 11 state titles and is a phenomenal football program, and they blanked us in the first quarter. They were leading by 24 and then we took it to 'em. We came back, and they couldn't stop us. Mitch's will was great. He had that ability to put us on his back and takes us for a ride."

Trubisky and Fritts became close friends in elementary school, when they spent the year playing various sports together. Summer was for travel baseball, winters were in the gym on the basketball team. Fall, however, was for football. The two were both raised in Mentor, a town of just under 50,000 people located just 25 miles from Cleveland. In Mentor, football is everything. Former Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel was born there, as were several NFL players, including former Giants receiver Joe Jurevicius.

When he was in sixth grade, Trubisky became the ball boy for Trivisonno's team at Mentor High. That helped his love of football grow even more. Young Mitch saw first-hand how players interacted with one another and what it took to be a leader. These skills evolved as he grew and became a player of his own. By the time he was of high school age and able to play for the Cardinals, Trubisky had a good idea of what it took to be a successful all-around player.

"He was just a little guy who absolutely loved to be around," Trivisonno said. "He was diligent at being a ball boy, you never had to worry about anything. He would learn from example, just seeing how the older kids handled things and how to act and how to behave, that was a great experience."

"Mitch is just a genuine dude," said Fritts. "Very unselfish, cares about other people, he goes out of his way to introduce himself. That's just the kind of guy he is, great overall dude. Great people person, very outgoing."
Combining those characteristics with his love for football make a well-rounded quarterback. Though he played other sports at Mentor, his mind was never far from the gridiron. Trivisonno recalled hearing from the high school's basketball coach that prior to games, Trubisky, Fritts and some other multi-sport athletes would ask to get into the locker room early to "stretch." It turned out they were grabbing a football and running passing routes in the empty gym, trying to perfect their timing.

"The basketball coach was not happy, but that's the kind of kid Mitch is," Trivisonno said with a chuckle. "Even during basketball season, it was about football."

The passion for the game and the constant striving to improve also has an infectious quality. Fritts, who is two years younger than Trubisky, followed the quarterback to Chapel Hill and saw the same effect on the Tar Heels. It also shows in how Trubisky handles himself on the field. He doesn't get too up after a great play or too down after a mistake, but he always makes sure he's on the same page with his teammates.
"Mitch is one of those guys who is cool, calm, he keeps it together," Fritts said. He doesn't panic, never gets frustrated. Always just in the zone. He makes a mistake, he's not going to show it. And if he makes a big play, he'll get hyped but he's not going crazy. Cool, calm, just a great demeanor on the field."

That calmness will help Trubisky handle any pressure that comes his way. The pressure could be from being in the spotlight of playing in Chicago, or the pressure of a Clay Matthews blitz. His ability to stay focused on the prize, combined with his love for the game, gives the young quarterback the proper state of mind to take on any challenge in front of him. His high school coach has seen first-hand how Trubisky deals with stressful situations, and the result is often exceptional play. The stakes are a little higher with the Bears than they were in triple-OT against St. Ignatius, but it's going to be the same Mitch, the same kid from Mentor, no matter what.

"I think he's going to thrive under that pressure," Trivisonno said. "He'll go to work, work very hard. He's going to represent the city of Chicago very well. He's not the kind of kid who's going to thump his chest and run around and this and that. It's never been about him.

"He's the kind of kid who will handle the pressure extremely well. Seeing him (on draft night), he had a light in his eye. He can't wait to get to work. I think you're going to find a great young man who is going to be the face of that franchise. I think the city of Chicago is going to love him. He understands what that type of town is. He's going to get that, because he grew up in a similar place."
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: WshflThinking on May 01, 2017, 06:03:30 pm
Nice article. Gives us something to hope for. Right now this team could use a lot of hope
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: dallasbear on May 02, 2017, 12:19:38 am

octagon

More old than football savvy.

Bears have drafted 4 QBs in the first round:  McMahon, Harbaugh, McNown and Grossman.  2 of the 4 got us into the Super Bowl.

As far as QB expectations, the bar has been set very low.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on May 02, 2017, 04:59:26 am
My ideal scenario would be to see Glennon perform so well that we have the problem of two QBs on the roster that are productive in the NFL.  Give me the Rivers/Brees problem of 10 years ago
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Bears4Ever on May 02, 2017, 09:02:50 am
This sure seemed like a swing for the fences draft by Pace.

Say what you will about him but if he wants a guy he goes up and gets after him. Pace's career (and perception hereafter) as well as the fate of the Bears for the foreseeable future now hinges on this draft. And the history of this team developing QBs in the modern era is poor at best (and by poor I mean abysmal).....
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: BearHit on May 02, 2017, 10:11:19 am
You didn't like the "let's see who the Packers want - and pick him" approach?
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: dallasbear on May 02, 2017, 01:11:19 pm
In a couple recent drafts the Packers have figured out who we were going to take and traded up in front of our pick.
Morgan Burnett and last year the tackle the drafted in round 2.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Jackiejokeman on May 02, 2017, 01:54:27 pm



 
In a couple recent drafts the Packers have figured out who we were going to take and traded up in front of our pick.
Morgan Burnett and last year the tackle the drafted in round 2.


 If that's true then Halas Hall isn't all that fuuckin smart are they ?


 Shouldn't it be the other way around ?


 When should you replace morons that are being out smarted by other teams ?


 Hey ... anybody seen the latest NFL draft picks ?
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: dallasbear on May 02, 2017, 02:01:56 pm
Jackie, you should be happy.  The Bears drafted a running back like you had wanted them to.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: davebear on May 02, 2017, 02:09:23 pm
Pace traded up to get Leonard Floyd.

Can't always trade up.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Pekin on May 02, 2017, 04:53:15 pm
Teams tried to trade up for Mitchell Trubisky, but not as high as No. 2
Posted by Michael David Smith on May 2, 2017, 5:44 PM EDT
 
AP
The Bears weren’t the only team that wanted to trade up to draft quarterback Mitchell Trubisky. Chicago was just the only team that traded all the way up to No. 2.

Titans General Manager Jon Robinson said on SiriusXM NFL Radio that Tennessee was fielding calls at No. 5 from teams that wanted to trade up. But when the Bears moved up from No. 3 to No. 2 and took Trubisky, everyone stopped calling the Titans.

“We had some calls about pick No. 5,” Robinson said. “When the trade happened between San Francisco and Chicago, it kinda threw water on anything in that spot.”
Those comments suggest that Trubisky was higher than Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson on draft boards around the league, and that the Bears were far from alone in coveting Trubisky. That doesn’t mean the Bears made the right decision giving up three other picks to move up from No. 3 to No. 2, but it does show they acquired the consensus top quarterback in the draft.
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Pekin on May 02, 2017, 06:54:13 pm
http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Pace-reiterates-why-he-made-bold-move/ae7ad56d-4919-4324-9379-b0de4e2eefa6
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on May 03, 2017, 04:47:43 am
Titans General Manager Jon Robinson said on SiriusXM NFL Radio that Tennessee was fielding calls at No. 5 from teams that wanted to trade up. But when the Bears moved up from No. 3 to No. 2 and took Trubisky, everyone stopped calling the Titans.

“We had some calls about pick No. 5,” Robinson said. “When the trade happened between San Francisco and Chicago, it kinda threw water on anything in that spot.”
Those comments suggest that Trubisky was higher than Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson on draft boards around the league, and that the Bears were far from alone in coveting Trubisky. That doesn’t mean the Bears made the right decision giving up three other picks to move up from No. 3 to No. 2, but it does show they acquired the consensus top quarterback in the draft.


I think that says enough to me.  Every team has their evaluations, and who they would take at what spot.  Heck, there were teams that thought Ryan Leaf was the choice over Manning.  So if you are sitting in Pace's chair and you are that close to getting who you have evaluated as that guy, he didn't want to sit back watch another team jump him for the peanuts we gave up to move.  If Titans were getting calls, and the 49ers were getting other offers - just who do you think it was for?  The calls stopped to the Titans as soon as Trubiskey was selected.  Other teams were willing to pay the price...
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Sportster on May 03, 2017, 05:15:11 am
This must be post draft delusions. Because pre draft there were no 'must have' QB's in this draft. Certainly no one worthy of moving up to grab. How things have suddenly changed....
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: dallasbear on May 03, 2017, 11:51:46 am
There were stories on Cleveland talking about taking Trubisky with the first pick a couple days before the draft.  No talk of Watson or Mahomes.

Every year QBs and DEs seem to shoot up the draft boards.

It's either all about the QB or all about stopping the QB.

Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: davebear on May 03, 2017, 02:04:09 pm
this from the Trib

"For comparison’s sake, the last time a team traded up from No. 3 to 2 to draft a quarterback, the Chargers moved up for Ryan Leaf in 1998. In addition to swapping first-round picks with the Cardinals, they gave up their second-rounder, their first-round pick the following year, kick returner Eric Metcalf and linebacker Patrick Sapp. So, yeah, I think Pace did OK."
Title: Re: Draft Night
Post by: Jackiejokeman on May 06, 2017, 07:23:46 pm



 It's always on the field that what was viewed as right and what was viewed as wrong


 will be the definition of a team in search of an identity in the NFL.


 What's sad is that it's us at this point in time.  :(


 None of us ever thought this could happen to us .


 But it has.


 We don't want Packers ... CHICAGO BEARS need New England for a second time !