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Bear Down!
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Inactives:
Toliver
Whyte
Woods
Coward
Anderson
Burton
Ridley
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GO BEARS!!!
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HELL YEAH!!
Great start!
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BOOM!!! SACK!!!
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The kick is GOOD!!!
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Defense is kicking azz! Offense is pretty conservative so far.
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Nice run!
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D is collapsing....
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Pathetic....
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Now can Tru throw more than ints here. Gotta get untracked and start playing ball.
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I'm already exhausted watching Trubisky.
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Not looking good for Trubisky...
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Offense is pathetic right now. Maybe they'll wake up in the second half. Hopefully it'll be the reverse of last year. Mack needs to make his presence known.
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Bears looking like excrement 👎👎👎👎
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Time for some halftime adjustments...
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So much for offensive improvement from Trubisky. Pathetic offense
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This is basically a forfeit if they continue playing like this. Need to get the ball downfield. And where's Mack?? Prove to us this is a SB worthy team. So far it's anything but...
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Looks like Nagy and Trubisky have regressed.
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Nagy is the worst. Ready for him to go away.
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These guys might actually need to play some in pre-season.
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Settle down.
They need to PA pass when Montgomery is in the game. Every time he is in they run. Packers are keying on that.
Some receivers besides Robinson need to step up. I would like to see some RB screens as well.
Some adjustments on offense need to be made.
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There we go!
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Oh come on. The clock has hit zero three times for the Packers and they didn't whistle it dead. Call it the same!
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Montgomery!
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Nothing like FU's to take you out of FG range....two delays...nice
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Rodgers crying like a little **** for a flag.
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4th quarter. 7-3 game.
What did you think Rodgers and the Packers were going to give it to us?
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No way Packers win this unless the fix is in.
He just threw the flag to slow things down for his defense.
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Well for **** sake!
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And this is why you need to play some in pre-season.
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Another penalty.....
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Cluster.... Looks like 0-1 against the fing Packers, again. W T F
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Ok, this is where Mack needs to earn his giant paycheck. Time is ticking
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Just let them get wide open 😡😡😡😡
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Trubisky needs to start playing like a first round pick.
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Seriously pissed with this pathetic effort. 😡😡 That's game. 5 mins and a TD to tie. 😡
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Nagy - the worst Bears head coach of my lifetime.
Worse than Gibron, Jauron, Wannstedt, Trestman, Fox.
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3rd and 10. not even close.
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Nothing changes with this team. Same ****, year after year. Fk it up against the Pack AT home. Next two are away.
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Think about this: the Bears blew not one but three drafts in the Trubisky debacle.
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Pack 98 - 95-6
See you in Lambeau!
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Bears will win there and take the division. I have zero doubt about it.
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If the Bears cant find a way to score more 3 pts they need to go play college teams. Maybe SI was right @ 7-9.
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Since 1992 it's been....
https://youtu.be/Y7DnhH25tLE
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Wonder if mack misses Deshon Kiser....
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OL and offensive play calling was awful. Defense can't carry a team to the super bowl anymore.
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I seriously believe the Bears will be just fine. Nagy chose to rest them in pre-season and be conservative.
That defense will only get better and they will not face another QB as good as Rodgers who they held to 7 points.
Sorry I despise losing to the Packers but if the Bears win the division again and go farther in the playoffs does it really matter?
Not that upset.
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Especially if the Packers defense is better...
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You arent a SB team if you cant score more than 3 pts.
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It isn't. Not even close.
The Bears defense will be top 3 in the league probably number 1.
The Bears offense will be a LOT better then what we saw tonight.
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Use logic not emotion.
The Bears defense just held the best QB in the league to 7 points. They had no film on said offense. That is always tough.
My concern is our offense. Which we know is at least middle of the road and has a lot of weapons. I don't think Nagy had a great game plan on offense tonight. He will have better one's going forward.
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Should have drafted Mahomes. KC will go to SB before the Bears
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The Packers scored 10.
Which is 7 more than the bear...
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I am not convinced Trubisky can get it done. He's not seeing the entire field and missing open recievers, seeing them. And tonight, for some frigging bizarre reason, he runs into pressure. The whole team just looked disconnected, not interested. Saw a bit of fire AT TIMES from the D but they just don't get it with the Packers. They just freeze up and play stupid and senseless football...
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Aaron Rodgers is now 18-5 against the bear.
Enjoy
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Aaron Rodgers is now 18-5 against the bear.
Enjoy
Best QB to ever play the game has 1 SB win. Can't enjoy that. Regret is a terrible thing.
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The Bears have better talent then the Packers top to bottom except at QB and kicker. Rodgers is probably the best QB I have ever see play the game. Even better then Brady.
Nagy thought his defense could get it done. They held them to ten. Sucks for us we were held to 3.
Other teams will figure out the Packers offense in a few games. I never liked facing them first game.
The Bears will be fine.
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The Packers defense is middle of the road. But they spent their entire off season studying the Bears offense and hired Amos to fill in the details. Remember when we used to do that?
We will be fine.
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Pettine out coached Nagy and our ol is overrated.
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Last season, that first half of the first game was amazing. They came out on fire and lit the Pack up bad. Then they took their foot of the throat. This year? Just pathetic all game. The D kept them in it but even they had miscues that cost points-the wide open reciever in the drive that resulted in a TD. But the offense was flat out terrible. I do not have the optimism you do, Peke, not at all. They've got a very tough schedule this season and if they don't get this O figured out, it's going to be a long season. We've seen plenty of Bears teams with good D and terrible offenses go nowhere. Right now, Trubisky has a TON to prove and it's not looking good presently....one game down, we'll see how it goes hereout.
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Can't believe waited 8 months for this.
Packers db's were like glue on bear's receivers.
It looked like they had 20 players on D.
Nagys offense did not fool Pettine at all.
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1 - Trubisky stunk.
2 - 3rd & inches and you line up in the shotgun? You need a yard & you run Patterson up the middle? Cohen with no rushes?
3 - we need a TE.
4 - Cody Whitehair was terrible, isn't he supposed to be our best OL? He was shockingly bad. The OL is way overrated.
5 - Allen Robinson looked like the only guy on offense ready to play.
6 - This team was not ready to start the season.
7 - Anthony Miller - 0 catches.
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Cade McBiscuit looked like sh!t! This is why you play your starters in preseason. 3 points? WTF? So we could've had Mahomes, instead we get to watch this display of garbage. Only the first game but we just spotted Rogers a game lead in our division.
Nagy better dig deep.. You just lost one the most important games of the year for Bears fans..
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Not to mention.. What a fukking em-bear-ass-ment!!
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I knew as soon as I saw all the 85 Bears marching out waving white flags we were going to lose. Let that 85 shiit rest already, and what was the point of waving white towels???
The OL was putrid last night, between pressure and penalties. Trubisky was putrid. What was up with those passes to Patterson where he was just lobbing them up in the air, but not far enough? And it looked like he thought it was still preseaon throwing INTO double coverage, see INT for example. And it seems like he has been nuetered and is afraid to run. Anthony Miller targeted exatly ONE time. WTF??? RB Davis was ok, but Montgomery was much better, but yes the Fudge were keying on him as a running play. Try throwing to him some more. Shaheen was putrid. And Burton the pusssy didnt play in another big game. I am not buying the "mystery" groin strain at all. If we cant count on him, lets find someone we can count on. Robinson looked good, but man he needs some help. And did Cohen get any runs? He was supposed to be our 3rd/all purpose player. And Taylor Gabriel with the pushing off, not sure if that is on him or Trubiskys bad passes/not far enough.
D was good, and Roquan had some nice plays. I was hoping for a little more. At first I didnt think Clinton-Dix was even playing, as he was invisible. The old I'm not doing anything to my ex-team, ala Burton. But I did see his jersey in the second half. I guess I was hoping/wishing for some more turnovers or picks. They held them to 10 pts, so cant complain too much, but Mr Vaseline has that knack for getting rid of the ball at the last second. I loved the sacks, and the last one he was kind of ginger getting up from.
Overall I think all that superbowl hype went to their heads. If the O cant get it together it will be a 7-9 year. If I was Nagy I would make sure every O starter next year plays in the preseason, at lest until they show they are competent. This could be a long year, and the last 8 months were hard enough, but last night was painful.
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Well the atmosphere to start the game yesterday was electric. However that pathetic display from our offense, destroyed what should have been a great evening for all Bears fans.
The play calling was bad; I mean really, really bad.
Trubisky was WAY over throwing the ball. I know it is just one game, but really makes me wonder if he will pan out for us at QB.
Why did we not use D. Montgomery more? He got a couple of touches, he needed more. I think by the end of the year he will be a workhorse.
No turnovers? Hopefully that trend does not continue. Should of had a pick six early in game.
We that was a major wake up call for me. So much for booking Miami hotel (super bowl) and going to have to find a new QB in FF this year.
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I think sometimes those offensive masterminds get too cute. We may need to line up in the I formation sometimes and just give it to the running back.
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Nagy needs to come out and apologies to all Bears fans. He had all off season and that's the best they could come up with? Now they go on the road the next two games. Start 0 and 3 and you can just about kiss the season good bye. I just can't get over how bad McBiscuit looked, terrible!!
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YEah I was thinking they kept saying Trubisky is getting into level 202 plays, maybe he needs to go back to level 101 plays. Cause what they tried last night didnt work.
As far as next week, at first I wasnt too worried about the Broncos and Flacco, but after seeing Trubisky last night, they could shut us out all together.
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3 points. 3. Am I the only one who was shocked by 1st and 40 ? Bears got beat fair and square. Doubt that its going to be a good year. Throw everything else out the window, the Bears only
scored 3 points. Receivers were always well covered. No tight end really, and now I might as well say that at the time I thought the Howard trade was a mistake. Those 3 on the field last night
didn't impress.
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Last year they never scored less than 14 - they were fun to watch
http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2018/REG/BEARS
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Great podcast after the game:
https://wgnradio.com/2019/09/06/hoge-and-jahns-week-1-postgame-show-packers-10-bears-3/
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Had to record the game and watched it last night well after midnight, so I haven't sifted through the posts (apologize for anything redundant).
1) Defense did a helluva job. Did just about everything better than last year, except for one thing. Getting turnovers. But they played well enough to win the game if they had an average output from the offense. Holding Rodgers and Devante Adams to those numbers was an accomplishment. But they would have had to be perfect and thrown a shutout to win this game. Would have liked to seen more of Jackson and Clinton-Dix but they did their jobs. Floyd is a monster with 2 hands isn't he? And Robertson-Harris had a nice game when given some quality minutes. Did anyone notice that Trevathan was kind of quiet?
2) Offensive line - When you have a pass run ratio that is incredibly one sided it puts a lot of pressure on the QB and the O-line. I thought for the most part they did an OK job. A lot of the sacks were not their fault...but the last one was all Whitehairs. Also this was Daniels first game at center in the NFL. I was concerned going in about his matchup with Kenny Clark - he's good.
3) Wide receivers. Gabriel had a tough night. So close on two big catches that could have turned the game around. Robinson was an all out stud - nuff said. Where the H was Miller? Targeted twice? As I'm sure someone mentioned - the Packers played tight coverage daring the Bears wideouts to beat them (and the opposite was the Bears corners playing sometimes 10 yards off the wide receivers often giving them easy 7 to 8 yards).
4) Running backs. We need to see more of Montgomery. In fact we need to see more of all the running backs...actually running. Nagy has a tendency to abandon the run way too early in games.
5) QB - Trubisky is not the Qb that you can drop back over 50 times in a game. 15 running plays and 3 of those were Trubisky scrambles. There's something to him getting rid of the ball quickly. The longer he sits back there the lower his rating drops. He's got athleticism - he's got the arm, but his pocket presence was not good. Part of that could be the receivers were not open - but part of it falls on him not finding secondary receivers and forcing the ball when his primary is open.
6) TE - Shaheen...really? You double dribble on your only catch. Two games in a row without Burton - two losses.
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FWIW now that I've had time to let the game sink in a little:
The Good:
Defense is stout. Regression ? I didn't see any regression. Only scoring drive they gave up was on a hurry up drive (can't recall if Mack was taking a breather or not) and a busted play. Expected Rodgers to make at least 1-2 plays a game like that.
Montgomery is a beast (as is Robinson). The rest of the O... not so much.....
Oh and the Bears have a 100% FG percentage. YAY !
The Bad:
Special teams still taking the "Special Bus". ST coordinator (despite Nagys pathetic playcalling this game) I think is still the weakest coach of the bunch.
For some reason the Bears receivers looked like they were glued to the Packer secondary most of the night.
Trubisky looked rusty. Maybe some more pre-season play would've helped ?
The Ugly: (and now the angst :D)
Nagy's playcalling. WTF was that all about ? Patterson in a dive up the middle on 3rd and short ? Patterson out in routs (that he cannot run) and all those **** passes, Christ....
And speaking of runs, why the hell wasn't Montgomery in the game more and what happened to calling runs at all (he runs angry and is going to be a force in the NFL).
Shaheen. Waste. Of. Space. 'nuff said. Don't even get me started on "No Show" Burton......
Oline play. Too bad they didn't get more playing time in pre-season. Again what seems to be a bad Nagy decision
"One game does not a season make" but boy do they have to put this one behind them and wake the **** up. Maybe they were buying into their own hype ? Expect better next week but they may be lucky to be .500 going into the bye if the change is only incremental.....
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To think e could have had Mahomes without trading away a bunch of draft choices. Trubisky was only a one year starter. I watched Mahomes play lights out at Texas Tech for two years. I watched the tape on Trubisky and I just couldn't see what all the excitement about him was coming from. I was OK with the selection cause we needed a QB,but,I thought Pace was stupid for trading so much when Mahomes would have been sitting there for us. Oh well hind sight. I will say one thing that hurt was the lack of playing time in the exhibition season. It showed last night.
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To think e could have had Mahomes without trading away a bunch of draft choices. Trubisky was only a one year starter. I watched Mahomes play lights out at Texas Tech for two years. I watched the tape on Trubisky and I just couldn't see what all the excitement about him was coming from. I was OK with the selection cause we needed a QB,but,I thought Pace was stupid for trading so much when Mahomes would have been sitting there for us. Oh well hind sight. I will say one thing that hurt was the lack of playing time in the exhibition season. It showed last night.
31 teams didn't forsee how good Mahomes would be so early.
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The whole thing has me wondering about Pace. Were we a really crappy team when he took over? Absolutely. Are we a much improved team? yes. But there are things that are glaring. A lot of people were shocked by the Bears move to get Trubisky. Even as late as the end of the last season I thought Trubisky would be fine. I know it's just the first game, but come the fukk on.. Mitch looked like sh!t last night. Another thing, where the h3ll is our TE? No TE? There is just no excuse for last night..
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31 teams didn't forsee how good Mahomes would be so early.
31 teams didn't have a shot at Mahomes, he went 10th. It's all a crap shoot, agree, but Mitch was a serious crap shoot.
I can't get over how bad the O looked last night..
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joki was the one person here who was on Mahomes pre-draft. Props to him for that...he nailed that one.
I'd be curious to see how many snaps Miller was on the field for...I'd bet it was less than half their total snaps. I saw more of Wims than I did Miller. And I only recall one target, and Tru badly overshot him...
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I think on the Hoge and Jahns podcast they said that Hicks and Mack were both out for some of the plays on the GB TD drive.
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31 teams didn't have a shot at Mahomes, he went 10th. It's all a crap shoot, agree, but Mitch was a serious crap shoot.
I can't get over how bad the O looked last night..
Any team could have made the trade Kansas city did.
My point is he was erratic in college and far from a sure thing.
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Wims 20 of 71 plays...Miller 15 of 71...
Trubisky needs to do a much better job of finding the open man...ARob was blanketed by 2 guys on the pick in the end zone. Stupid pass...
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Should have drafted Mahomes. KC will go to SB before the Bears
This is like saying water is wet.
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Mahome's rating his last year in college was 157.0. Trubisky's was 157.9.
Mahome's came from school known for churning out system QBs (Texas Tech) while Trubisky played in a pro offense at NC. There was some question as to whether Mahomes was another system QB. And I don't know many of the draft experts that Mahomes ahead of Trubisky.
Plus Trubisky doesn't play with all-pro's Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce.
And the guy that the Bears were supposed to take at #3 in the 2017 (Solomon Thomas) isn't even starting for the 49ers.
Trubisky did not have a good game and he's not Pat Mahomes NFL MVP, but I'm not going to start whining about what we shoulda coulda done in the draft. Trubisky has shown that he's better than what he did last night.
Recall the Bears were ranked in the bottom third of the NFL in offense last year. What changed this year? Did they add any game breaking receivers? They added David Montgomery and barely utilized him. They also lost the services of a very good TE in Burton which is a good portion of the offense.
Bears need to cleanup their blocking assignments especially with Daniels and Whitehair's position swap, get Montgomery more involved (and Cohen), get Burton healthy, get Miller and Wims involved and Nagy needs to balance his play calling better.
Recall last year we were in a similar spot after the opener and the Bears rebounded. Next week is game 2 - come off the ledge.
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Good thing they have more than a week to right the ship.
I don't think the Broncos are going to be very good, and Flacco sure isn't Rogers.
If Nagy is a good coach they will play much better on offense next week.
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One thing Mahomes has that Mitch doesn't, Andy Reid..
Mitch has to show that he is better than he was last year. Last night he didn't show any progress.. Remember, this is the NFL (not for long).. Another thing, remember, Mitch was already here when Nagy took over.
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The test next week will be Fangio's D against Nagy/Mitch. No doubt Fangio knows the ins and outs of both. Lets see if he can capitalize.
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We're all mad as hell. Like many of you were doing earlier in the evening, I was screaming at my TV at 3am this morning watching the recording of the game (surprised no one at home heard me).
Sure, I felt bad that we got embarrassed on national TV against our biggest rival in the 100th year of the NFL - just like we did when they retired Sayers and Butkus number years ago. And I also threw a pity party on why the Bears can't ever have a decent offense. I've spent years...no, decades watching a defense play its heart out and then the keystone cops Bears offense lines up and trips over their diks.
But did you notice the completions Trubisky made were usually in very tight windows. The passes to Robinson down the sideline. Even the pass when Gabriel was pushed out of bounds was tight throw. Some of Cohen's throws had guys closing in on him a split second before the ball arrived. I give credit to the Pack on their DB play. They have loaded up on DBs the past 4 or 5 years in the draft and now have 2 #1s, a #2 and Amos. With the Bears abandoning the run it played right into their 4 - 1- 6 alignment.
I bet the Bears don't want to wait 10 days to wipe the stench of this game from their memory, but it will give them some time to work things out and maybe even Burton can use the time to get back to health. And I'd bet Miller isn't 100% right now either.
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The team just didnt look ready for game play. If only the NFL had some series of games they play before games started counting... not sure if we can look into that. Perhaps Nagy's move pays off in January, but the NFL is too competitive to punt the first 1-2 weeks of the season because you decided to bench all your starters and your opponents did not. The OL showed very clearly their communication was not game ready, nor imo was their physical conditioning.
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Rogers didnt play a single snap in the preseason, whereas Mitch handed off THREE whole times. And Rogers did look rusty, but he shook it off, thanks to genetics and experience. Mitch, just shiit the bed.
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this was supposed to be a running team. Why pass so much & run so little?
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So the packers were playing 6 db's. I thought you were supposed to be able to run down their throats when a defense does that?
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The biggest frustration for me was that they never really tried to establish the run, even though Montgomery really looked good. Instead, they obviously wanted to go with Davis to try to establish the pass. Never a good idea in the NFL Central.
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Trubisky was lucky not to have three picks last night as Green Bay dropped one and another was broken up with incidental contact.
Trubisky playing better than he did against the Packers really isn't the point. The question is do people think he looks like a QB that can win titles? It's not about managing offenses anymore. You have to be able to make plays down the field.
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Trubisky was lucky not to have three picks last night as Green Bay dropped one and another was broken up with incidental contact.
Trubisky playing better than he did against the Packers really isn't the point. The question is do people think he looks like a QB that can win titles? It's not about managing offenses anymore. You have to be able to make plays down the field.
Your asking that in game 1?
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Nagy is the problem. In way over his head. One of the worst NFL head coaches of the past quarter century.
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Nagy is the problem. In way over his head. One of the worst NFL head coaches of the past quarter century.
No sarcasm font ? :D
So many folks seem butt-hurt over the loss everywhere I look, but as I've gotten older I've found it isn't worth it to let something color my outlook that way. Now when i was younger it would ruin at least a few days into the next week for me at work and I'd be more cynical and bitter than I usually am (which is quite a lot normally to be honest :D)
Maybe all the practice of being disappointed over the last 3 decades and have tempered me (or maybe I've just gotten old :D). Now I've got a 1/2 hour of anger after a game then shrug it off. It sucks to invest feelings into something passionately only to get your heart ripped out but as I've reached the point in life where it stops giving you things but starts taking them away (friends, family, health) I now know its not the destination but the ride that matters. And I won't let it spoil this weekend's Redzone football fest as I enjoy the game too damn much.....
Enjoy the roller coaster season. BEAR DOWN and Go BEARS !
Postscript:
Got an email from a friend with a quote from earlier last week by Nagy that he didn't want the team to peak to early and my friend added "Good Job then". With friends like those........ :)
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Bears4Ever
I'm getting to where you are but not yet there.
Fortunately for me after watching the recording of the GB loss early Friday morning I had to go to bed. Normally after a loss I'm very irritable towards my family and the dog. The anger is replaced by general sadness and depression which decreases throughout the week and generally gets replaced by excitement while I start focusing on the upcoming game.
It's really therapeutic to come here to share my grief and listen to the over reacted opinions that I also had a few hours after the game.
Should I be laying on a couch while I say all this?
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LOL!! I'm not nearly as animated about the whole NFL in general. I used to be able to name at least the main players on every team. Not anymore.. I don't spend the money on the ticket anymore, and haven't for quite awhile. Now, if the game isn't nationally televised I listen to the WBBM (radio) feed. It won't be much longer the NFL will stand for overrated (if it hasn't already reached that status). There's no loyalty, the players don't care about the team they play for, they care about the paycheck they receive. It's not about the fan anymore, it's about money and how things can be manipulated for a political agenda. Sad, but it's reality. There's more to life than watching football...
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And how out of skew are things when a football player makes $20 mil in one season. And a police officer or a nurse or teachers or whoever is lucky to make $50k and scrapes by..
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And musicians and movie actors. Along with pro athletes - they are all entertainers.
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Like it or not it’s supply and demand.
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I go back to about 1968 getting disappointed
I haven't missed more than 25 games since then.
I don't get emotional over games I just watch other games and usually don't look at any analysis for a couple of days.
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Like it or not, the NFL is on the decline, and has been. It's still top dog but nowhere near where it was. People like myself are sick of getting fukked by cable and dish companies. I got rid of that sh!t years ago. Sling and the antenna. Cut my bill by 2/3. Hollywood's not where it used to be. At some point, they can't keep paying the big bucks hoping it will work out in the end. With all the head injury concerns, football will change. I'm still a big Bears fan, but not so much the NFL, if that makes any sense..
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I'll admit that I still get the online MLB package, but that's a far cry from the ripoff ticket.. If the NFL offered something like that I may do it, but they're too greedy..
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Bears4Ever
I'm getting to where you are but not yet there.
Fortunately for me after watching the recording of the GB loss early Friday morning I had to go to bed. Normally after a loss I'm very irritable towards my family and the dog. The anger is replaced by general sadness and depression which decreases throughout the week and generally gets replaced by excitement while I start focusing on the upcoming game.
It's really therapeutic to come here to share my grief and listen to the over reacted opinions that I also had a few hours after the game.
Should I be laying on a couch while I say all this?
That describes me exactly after a Bears loss!
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Dallas:
You'll get there for sure :D
I lived for years with a hole in my basement paneling where I punched it after one of the (many) Wanny disaster games back before I moved to where I am now. I kept it there as a monument of my own stupidity and a reminder of how to not to act.
Age is sometimes wisdom (or maybe acceptance ?). But 'm too cynical to believe in any overall plan of any sort. Of course it may also have to do that I drink a whole lot less (although still a bit during the season). At least my liver thanks me :D
And this place is therapy (of a sort :D). I've been a member since the switch over from the Trib board days. I don't post much but when I do it is cathartic. I appreciate you guys and your fandom. Us crazies gotta stick together :D
Go Bears !
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Think of how many have left since the trib board.
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It's nice to have when you don't live in the chicago area.
I'll see other Bear fans in public but the 30 something s rarely want to slow down what they're doing and have a conversation.
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Your asking that in game 1?
I'm asking that after more than 2 seasons.
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I get angry during the game and a day or two after, then it's 'yep, this is the @%$#$ Bears,here we go again' attitude. We've seen it so often over the last three or so decades we all should be used to it. My wife avoids me for the rest of the day because I'm hot, and then it's back to business as usual. I'm MUCH MUCH more animated after a loss to the Pack then I am with any other team. A game that's winnable should be won-period. To lose with inept offensive play time and again is pathetic. Tru either needs to get it figured out or we'll once again be on the hunt for the incredibly elusive franchise QB.
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I agree, losing to the pack makes it worse..
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The thing that drives me absolutely insane is when the refs decide the outcome of the game, usually with the Pack. This time not so much so it didnt bug me too much. BUT.... Nagys decision to not run the ball, that kind of hurt.
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Funny to hear Al Michaels mention something about Rodgers' special treatment by the refs - and Collinsworth saying something like "oh, we can't say that..."
Then Nick Foles gets 2 big bodies pummel him with their full weight and no flag?
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Aaron Rodgers doesn’t get special treatment. He just knows how to beat the Bears.
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He does get special treatment from the refs
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All the superstar QBs get special treatment by the refs at times. They are the cash cow for the NFL. I didn’t notice Rodgers getting any special treatment during the Bears game. The Bears O just sucked and the play calling was atrocious. If I remember correctly Allen Robinson bailed Mitch out 2-3 times on great catches with the DB in his face or it could have looked worse.
He does get special treatment from the refs
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All the superstar QBs get special treatment by the refs at times. They are the cash cow for the NFL. I didn’t notice Rodgers getting any special treatment during the Bears game. The Bears O just sucked and the play calling was atrocious. If I remember correctly Allen Robinson bailed Mitch out 2-3 times on great catches with the DB in his face or it could have looked worse.
I agree Rodgers didn't benefit from any special treatment from the ref.
That's kind of been my point about Trubisky. He often times forced to make contested throws because the DBs were playing our wideouts tight. Not too many throws to guys with cushions.
Everybody on offense sucked. Nagy got outcoached and couldn't make halftime adjustments. Trubisky lost his cool. The O-line couldn't handle a non-vanailla pass rush. Receivers got little separation. Running backs, weren't given many chances, but no one ripped off a 10 yard run. TEs...do we have TEs?
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I have real concerns about Trubisky, but after rewatching parts of the game I see he was under pressure most plays and you can see he was trying to balance scanning the field with getting rid of the ball in time.
With the Packers using 6 DB's it's got to be pretty difficult to decide if a receiver is open or if you are missing a DB in decision making.
On a large number of plays he was looking and looking with the time he had not wanting to make a bad decision but having difficulty accounting for all the defenders.
Last year in those situations, (and in my understanding how you would counter a 6 DB defense), they would run Jordan Howard to move the chains until the defense made changes to stop the run, which then opened up pass opportunities.
The fact they had little run success made the situation worse. For some reason Cohen had no carries.
Tru needs a good game Sunday no doubt. Callahan has been out awhile with a bad foot and Fangio just said "maybe" when asked if he would play Sunday. His replacement was taken advantage of. I don't think Denver's defense is what it was 2-3 years ago. Raiders threw short quick passes to tight ends to move the chains. Most of their completions were under 10 yards to negate the pass rush.
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Another terrible start. This team looks like crap right now. Put the fricking Online back to where it was last season already. The run blocking is atrocious and there's too much pressure coming through.
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Horrid call and total BS!!!😡😡😡 Personal foul my rear!!
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Apparently you can't tackle RB's anymore?
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Defense bailed out the ref for one of the worst penalty (https://twitter.com/ftbeard_17/status/1173336919020732416) in history of the NFL
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Shaheen makes his first play as a beat
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Decent drive, something to build on. Anyone else surprised Shaheen broke that tackle?
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Well, finally a Mack sack, and some pressure from the D ends a drive. 6pts two games ain't gonna cut it. Need a good drive with a TD soon.
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OL is getting some push
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Come on Mitch! He was wide open.
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I'd like to see less Mike Davis the rest of the game.
Nice boot Eddy
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I'd like to see less Mike Davis the rest of the game.
Nice boot Eddy
But remember he fits the system........
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Need more than 3pts a drive. Tru missing wide open receivers ain't cutting it...
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WTF? Run it there.
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Hard to believe we ran the ball better under Fox and Loggains than the coach of the year
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It sure would be nice to have something resembling competence on offense here.
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TD BEARS!!!
That was a lot harder then it should have been.
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That was all Montgomery!
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Loving that Patterson signing right now. He got it started.
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WTF? You can't hit the QB? That was a terrible call.
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He literally still had the ball in his hand.
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ok now i saw the 2nd worst penalty (https://twitter.com/JoRo_NFL/status/1173364953430011907) in NFL history
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This next possession is very critical to this game
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Bears defense looking winded
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FULLER!!!
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I think he may have been robbed of the TD by the refs as well.
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The O better get it done here. Either a long drive to kill the time or score.
None of this 3 and out ****!
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Our offense sucks so hard!
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Why are you not calling a play to the marker!
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Nagy blows.
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Nagys so afraid of mitch he won't give him a chance.
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I think he’s so afraid of another interception
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Well yeah but might as well sit him if you're not going to let h play
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They're gonna get the fricking TD....
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Fking Bears....they're gonna lose this....
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Knee out of bounds? I hope.
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NO GOOD!!!
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These refs suck azz!
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Bears get a break, kicker misses it...and then they blow it.... ::)
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Dumb azz!
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Bears lose.....this season is going to be fking ugly....great fking job....
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I'm beyond pissed....fk these clowns..... >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Nagy is a historically awful coach. I'm talking Abe Gibron.
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I wasted three hours for this?
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I said they'd have trouble...some laughed...laughing now?? >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Soft coverage all day what gives
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So now the Broncos disintegrating....
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Make up call when it doesn't matter anymore.
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Think the Bears believed their own hype. 12men in the fking huddle? Are you KIDDING me?? Fking idiots....
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This is game...let em have the second, there's a kick...no, it's over....
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Watch Pineira miss it, lol....probably will
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Give Tru credit he was on top of calling time out.
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BEARS WIN!!!
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Are you fuckingkiddingme!
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Unbelievable....
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Ugliest most exciting game I have seen in quite some time.
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Lol a kicker saves their sorry asses
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Fire that visor-wearing idiot anyway.
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Well, all the looking for a kicker evidently worked out. Now they've got to get Trubusty on the right dmn track. This is going to be a bad season if he's not fixed soon.
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**** yes
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Honestly if it wasn't for the refs calling him down when he wasn't Fuller scored the winning TD.
This offense is terrible though.
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Yes, I’m laughing now...
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Eddy, Eddy, Eddy, Eddy!!!
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They need to take the handcuffs off Trubisky and let him play.
You don't win games on defense alone anymore, especially playing this soft zone they played today.
C'mon Pagano.
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The good news is the schedule gets a lot easier for the next 4 games. They "should" win 3 of the next 4.
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I think we found a kicker. Two 50+ today.
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lol, Davey 2 1/2 shows up now.... :D ::) Your azz would still be hiding if they had lost and they pulled this win out their azz and you know it....
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good god. c'mon guys, better next week ok? Glad for the win, but really now!
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I’m not posting in here while you’re in here posting nothing but negative bullshit. You are the Chris of the Bears board.
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Don't care. Post it as I see it....don't like it, don't read it...pretty simple, huh...
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Hey Dave, go **** yourself.
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Pretty weird.
This past week Nagy says he threw too much complicated offensive concepts at Mitch this off season which slowed down his decision making and plays were coming in late against Green Bay, this week he would shorten the playbook.
We see both last week and this week when Mitch drops back and scans the field he's usually not seeing an open receiver. I guess this week he was ordered to check it down right away.
With either philosophy there are putrid results from the passing game. Isn't there something in the playbook that might result in open receivers?
Denver surely found theirs.
Nagy's going to have to take his lumps and successes with Trubisky whether this team goes anywhere or not.
BTW this win sure feels good. How many losses have Bear fans witnessed in games like this.
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One thing that looks pretty clear is that Mitch is being told not to scramble...
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Eat another dick, Chris.
Oh, and **** off Sporty...or as your hypocrite ass says...fk off...
Jesus knows what you really mean...
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Dave, cut back on the caffeine a bit.... :D
But yeah, you're right...I do let this stupid game get to me too much. I will try to do better.....no more 'fk' nonsense from me....
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Glad they won! Tough winning on the road, but that was one shaky performance.. I really thought they had lost, kudos to Mitch at the end, and kudos to the kicker.. Heck yeah!!
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I'd eat your dad's but he clearly lacked one. You lying sack of ****.
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I’m struggling to understand why our best route running WR has a total of two targets in two games.
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I’m struggling to understand why our best route running WR has a total of two targets in two games.
#nagyblows
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Never knew my dad...doesn’t faze me at all...
Not sure what I lied about...perhaps you’re flustered a bit. I realize it has been a quiet weekend for you, what with the Cubs killing it offensively and the Bears winning...but I should have known you were lurking just in case the Bears happened to lose...
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Most of the Cubs board members provide absolutely nothing. Many add their own "negative" comments or never post. Some like Jack Birdbrain do nothing but post vicious attacks on others. But, hey, let's go to another board to **** all over one of the loyal members who has been around 20 years with 20K posts including game updates, news, and all prospect notes and boxscores.
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If you would just own what you are and what you do, no one would ever say anything else negative about you...just own it...it’s been long enough. Just own it...
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And doesn't even realize how **** stupid he and some of the other lemmings are with the not a Cubs fan nonsense.
Folks, if you get tired of your team underachiever or finding ways to lose you will be granted non-fan status by the likes of Dave23. That's just how much of a fan he is.
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Good God take your juvenile crap to messaging and leave it off here.
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Just own it...
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Sure. I'm one of the most loyal fans. Been on the board going back to the Trib days. Probably have 40K posts between the three incarnations. The actual intelligent fans on the site--Craig, Weatherguy when he was there--knew what I provided. But then, they weren't reactionary whiners.
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They aren’t Debbie Downer’s either.
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You really only pay attention to the posts you want to, apparently.
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Got an issue with #2 pick Trubisky and his 90 yards passing? Well, you aren't a Bears fan then. That's how that works.
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I read all the posts.
I don’t doubt that you are a Cubs fan. No one else would post prospect updates religiously as you do, and I have thanked you for that more than once.
Answer one question for me...I would wager that greater than 80% of your posts in the Today’s Game topic on the Cubs board are negative.
Would you agree with that, or disagree?
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What the 'bacon'?? Didn't know this was even being tracked....
Cordarrelle Patterson zooms to 22.23 mph, fastest play by a ball carrier in two years
12:37 PM ET
Jeff Dickerson
ESPN Staff Writer
DENVER -- The Chicago Bears signed veteran Cordarrelle Patterson because he's a triple threat.
Patterson has impacted games as a wide receiver, running back and kickoff returner over the course of a seven-year NFL career.
On Sunday, Patterson breathed life into an otherwise listless Bears offense when he lined up in the backfield, took a simple toss left, and galloped 46 yards deep into Denver territory.
Patterson reached 22.23 mph on the run, the fastest speed reached by a ball carrier over the past two seasons, according to NFL Next Gen stats.
.@ceeflashpee84 WAS HUSTLIN'!
46-yard pick up. #CHIvsDEN pic.twitter.com/CgpQwPUUGO
— Chicago Bears (@ChicagoBears) September 15, 2019
Bears RB/WR Cordarrelle Patterson reached 22.23 MPH on this 46-yard run, the fastest speed reached by a ball carrier over the last two seasons.#CHIvsDEN | #Bears100 pic.twitter.com/FwJKxzk29W
— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) September 15, 2019
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I expect keeping it close to the vest today was to keep Sir Vonne and Cubby from planting Mitch in the dirt all afternoon.
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That's the one thing the offense did well.
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0-2 is a death sentence for a team trying to get back to the playoffs and Denver is virtually undefeated at home in weeks 1 and 2 over the last decade or so. A conservative gameplan was always in play. That overthrow miss to Gabriel was very disappointing, but the OL did play better at least.
Back to the drawing board for the passing game, but better off a win. Skrine owes Eddy the most expensive steak meal in Chicago and then some.
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Good win. Definitely wasn't pretty, but the bears came through in one of the hardest places to win in the NFL.
Some random thoughts I had:
1. The WRs aren't as good as we thought. I think we have a deep collection of mediocre.
2. The D gassed because they were awful on 3rd and 4th down in the 2nd half. Mainly due to poor tackling and the cushion our dbs give the WRs.
3. Sick thought I had during the game was imagining trestman having an elite D year one like Nagy had. That goober might still be here. Nagys shine is getting dimmer every game.
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Fire Nagy and hire a new head coach by lottery.
#anyonebutvisorboy
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Piniero 10, Trubisky 6 and he didnt score the 6. UGH! A win is a win, I'll take it. We sure didnt deserve it. Talk about winning ugly? I fully comprehend the pain. One thing I should mention in defense,
like the Miami game last year where the heat caused us problems, the altitude played a factor today.
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As I've said after the Packer game the Bears receivers get no respect. There's no cushion - everything tight.
And with 2 of our top 4 receivers gimpy (Anthony Miller and Burton), nothing is going to change against teams with a decent pass rush and/or decent DBs.
Bears avoided the middle of the field until the very end and they got to lead the league in sideways passes at the LOS.
This is not an NFL offense.
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Next couple of weeks we see defenses that aren't so familiar with our offense.
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Opposing defenses will play tight man until Trubisky shows he can beat it consistently. He tends to be errant in his accuracy so they're expecting to get a pick or three.
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Most of the Cubs board members provide absolutely nothing. Many add their own "negative" comments or never post. Some like Jack Birdbrain do nothing but post vicious attacks on others. But, hey, let's go to another board to **** all over one of the loyal members who has been around 20 years with 20K posts including game updates, news, and all prospect notes and boxscores.
That wasn’t very nice. You have issues.
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Well.... um... a win is a win in the stats (and it is nice to finally have a kicker) but it still feels dirty somehow, not because of the officiating (it did suck for both teams) but the fact that this Offense is would have to improve to become even terrible.....
IMHO I think Nagy has too many shiny toys to play with. He needs to concentrate on 2-3 offensive players (Robinson, Montgomery and maybe Burton) as primary and build off of that instead of just throwing **** at the wall and seeing what sticks. Right now he an ADD offensive coach.....
Glad for the win, but boy its going to be a long nail-biting season with this scatter-brain offense....
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What concerned me the most was the heart of this team failed to deliver when needed. We were up by a TD late and all they had to do was stop Denver from scoring and they couldn't. If you want to be the best Defense in the league you can not let Denver march down the field and score a TD late. They were 62 yards away with only 2:48 to go and couldn't stop them. They had them in a 4th and 10 and couldn't stop them. They had them in a 4th and 3 and couldn't stop them.
If you want to tout the Defense then they need to stand up when needed. They didn't. They failed.
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You're right. They did fail. And if you ask everyone on defense if they should have stopped them on the 4th downs, they would own it and say that they should have.
But the altitude and temperature close to 90 is a powerful 12th man on offense for Denver and one of the main reasons why the Broncos are 22-2 in Week 1 or Week 2 home games since 1999. Before yesterday, they have not lost a week 2 home game in 40 years.
And so, I am not concerned about the defense yet.
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Would you rather watch a 43-0 blowout - or a 16-14 nail-biter as the clock hits 00.00?
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That pass to the wide open Gabriel, where Mitch had a clean pocket is what concerns me most. He did that a bunch last year, and they said it was his mechanics. Looks like maybe he is reverting to some of his old bad habits again?
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But the last pass to AROB was a beautiful thing - shuffle and fire
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The Redskins are (1-16) at home on MNF since 1998. Cakewalk :-)
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What concerned me the most was the heart of this team failed to deliver when needed. We were up by a TD late and all they had to do was stop Denver from scoring and they couldn't. If you want to be the best Defense in the league you can not let Denver march down the field and score a TD late. They were 62 yards away with only 2:48 to go and couldn't stop them. They had them in a 4th and 10 and couldn't stop them. They had them in a 4th and 3 and couldn't stop them.
If you want to tout the Defense then they need to stand up when needed. They didn't. They failed.
Not to pile on, but you are dead wrong. Bears did stop one 4Q 84 yard drive with the pick (which I can't believe the announcers didn't show a closer look at whether Fuller went out of bounds). But after that what did the offense do, run 5 plays then punt? They were gassed and Flacco, although a statue, is a very accurate QB. I couldn't believe he was able to get off throws with guys on him.
I noticed when they blitzed Skrine for the 4th time in a row he had a clear shot to Flacco - but Pagano used his second timeout.
So what concerns me is the offense...the passing game is fukked up. The O-line gave up some pressure but no sacks - but Leno especially seems to be struggling this year. Are Miller and Burton still hurt? They are not a part of the offense like they were last year. And Cohen isn't being utilized. Shaheen and Braunecker aren't scaring anybody.
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We might could borrow a few pages from the Ravens. Lamar Jackson is looking pretty good.
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I guess I can quit whining about a kicker, coupla 50 yarders+ even if it was a mile up. The Bear ran for a buck fity, where's the points? Before that last pass Mitch had less than a 100 yards
for the WHOLE GAME.
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The Redskins are (1-16) at home on MNF since 1998. Cakewalk :-)
That sounds good, but past history of Bears/Redskins doesnt make this a yawner. I am not ready to put this game in the win column till its over.
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This is the NFL - you never put any game in the win column before its played! With the way the Bears offense is playing right now I don't see them being favorites in many road games this season.
Back to the offense. Yes, the Bears ran for over 150 but about 50 of that was from Patterson on the one play that the Bears scored their only touchdown (barely). According to some mph stats - Patterson is the fastest running back in the NFL.
Where's the quick slants and the crossing patterns? Bears seem to avoid the middle of the field and nibble on the edges near the LOS.
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We can only hope Mitch get better week by week....and Nagy opens up the offense.
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Anybody nicked up bad? I saw that Burton was playing, but looked stiff as hell even on tv. Mitch ain't no Lamar, but I do think the coaches should let him take off more. The team can't rely
on constant defensive turnovers to save the bacon, which that fuller one did.
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I can only hope that part of Trubisky's regression is caused by a lack of playing time in the preseason. I understood the philosophy,but,man those game reps are kinda important. I agree that Mitch needs to run the ball more where he can buy time or even go for it.Opens up the offense completely!
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Part of Trubiusky's problem is he was facing VIC FANGIO - who knows how to make Mitch uncomfortable. No one knows how to stop the Bears O better than Fangio.
No sacks for the Broncos and no turnovers - HUGE pluses.
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Anybody nicked up bad? I saw that Burton was playing, but looked stiff as hell even on tv. Mitch ain't no Lamar, but I do think the coaches should let him take off more. The team can't rely
on constant defensive turnovers to save the bacon, which that fuller one did.
Nicols with the wrist (https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/matt-nagy-doesnt-expect-bears-dt-bilal-nichols-land-ir-wrist-injury) pending MRI, hopefully no IR
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The Redskins are (1-16) at home on MNF since 1998. Cakewalk :-)
And Denver was 17-1 in home openers the last 18 games. That being said, I think the Bears take the Skins. But that offense is offensive....
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/17/chicago-bears-mitchell-trubisky-matt-nagy-offense-week-2/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline
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I am tired of watching other team's highlights of receivers running down the field wide open,with no DB in the picture, catching 50 yard bombs.
With the Bears a pass over 10 yards to a WR is major accomplishment. And often times even those are into a tight window.
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Hub Arkush said this morning one ok f his biggest disappointment is the receivers not getting separation
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You see it every pass play. The DBs crowding our receivers running step for step with them. No cushion.
I really like Alan Robinson. He's a very good possession receiver. Great hands, great body control, but he's maybe a 4.6 guy. Our speed receiver Taylor Gabriel just isn't producing. 10 yards a catch last year and only 2 scores on his 67 catches. He's extremely fast but at 5-7 he doesn't have much of a catch radius. This year 3 catches. That's ridiculous for a starting receiver in the NFL today. Not all his fault but that needs to improve.
There's something wrong with Anthony Miller that's not being shared (but I'm sure our opponents know). He needs to get healthy or Bears need to start targeting Wims. Wims has dominated in PS the last 2 years. He's huge and can win those 50/50 balls and his speed is pretty good.
That's why I was all excited about the two FAs signed this offseason named named Hall - they were fast guys, but for whatever reason weren't good receivers and got cut.
Maybe the Bears need to face some really bad corners - cuz the ones we've seen so far have been shutting them down.
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Green Bay played a dime the whole time and it shut our receivers down completely. We have no running game so that was super smart.
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I watched highlights of Lamar jackson today on NFLN. For what it is worth, it was against the Dolphins. The Dolphins did a real soft rush where they waited for him to run. I would say he had an easy unharassed 5 - 6 seconds per throw. Of course you are going to find people... and they were wide open. Allen Robinson, middle of the field for 25, open
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After listening to that depressing Lombardi interview, I am thinking that now that the defenses the next few weeks (Queens notwithstanding) are not as tough, I want to see Mitch run more to throw or chew up some yards. That is what he does best and when he is the most accurate. The Bears do not have the time to develop him as a pocket passer and will have to trust Mitch not get himself hurt when he rushes. But maybe if he gains some confidence on the run or moving up away from the pass rush completing passes to the WRs like the last play of the game, maybe his game in the pocket will improve. just grasping straws here...
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Not sure what Lombardi interview you're talking about but he has hated Trubisky from the beginning. Trubisky seems at his best when the game is in his hands. Let him run to the point the defense has to dedicate a spy
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Yeah I know Filene's Basement and all that. What Nagy needs to do now is find a way for Mitch to use his legs even though teams are setting the edge to prevent the edge runs and force him to "play QB." Interior blocking is essential to allow Mitch to buy time in the pocket by side stepping or moving up in the pocket and complete some passes. Once that happens then opportunities will open up for Mitch to run or throw on the run. Maybe more play action will be called based on Nagy's willingness to lean on the run for whole drives.
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They've shown a few times now where our recievers are getting open but Trubisky ain't seeing them or he's late with the ball and the defender has closed. This isn't just the recievers fault...
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Pack takes early lead on Rodger's 40-yd TD pass.
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davebear makes a good point. Trubisky and the offense were more dangerous when Mitch would run the ball more freely. That's the one aspect defenses have a hard time defending. Opens up other options. Nagy run Trubisky. Designed runs and run options,keep the defense on their heels. Just don't run like Jim McMahon with reckless abandon. That'll shorten your career although it's admirable. I loved Jim's competitiveness!
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Pack takes early lead on Rodger's 40-yd TD pass.
That Aaron Rodger is something else...
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Sounds like there are going to be quite a few Bears fans there.
WML, did you go to the game?
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What!!!!! Bobby Massey inactive
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Redskins 31, Bears 10?
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Nope. Asked the wife if she wanted to go. She’s a dead skins fan. She said she would rather watch it at home and I agreed. FedEx field is a **** dump.
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That doesn't look good at all. Peneiro looks like his kicking knee is very sore. Looks like we will be going for two all night and FG's are pretty much out of the question.
Why is he even active?
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Guessing O'Donnell will be doing kick offs.
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Passing sideways gets pretty annoying to watch
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TD BEARS!!!
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Looks like he can kick XP. Probably nothing but short FG though.
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Great start and the D scores. Gotta get Tru on track. 👍👍👍
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Gotta get Tru on track. 👍👍👍
Not going to happen with Nagy at the helm.
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Our O-line sucks!
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They should have played in pre-season.
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Whose decision was it not to? VisorBoy's.
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WTF is with all the hands to the face?
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meh.
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The worst coached Bears team of my lifetime. Nagy must go.
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Bears killing themselves with penalties
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Are we up to like 10 penalties against the Bears already?
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C'mon D! They're gonna let them back in it.
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Love the blitzing!
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Like sprinkles on a doughnut!
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NO GOOD!!!
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Great sack by Trevathan lol. Psyche!😆
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I thought there was a law that every kick against the Bears has to be good.
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Will Trubisky throw a touchdown this season? Discuss.
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Offense still in a funk. 🙄
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This is last years offense.
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They put the training wheels back on and it appears to be working. Mitch just has to settle in.
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Trubucket, what the heck! This guy is horribly inaccurate!!
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That was a stupid call. On 2nd and 2, you line up in a run formation and send the smallest guy on the field up the gut.
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Like the announcer, he's right. Don't run Cohen up the gut there! The Online ain't blocking worth jack so put a bigger guy in there.
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TD BEARS!
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Wut
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That looked easy enough
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That was the world's easiest TD lol. 👍👍👍
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Reduced game plan is the way to go with Mitch. He will settle in and light it up as his confidence grows. That was a long morale killing drive there for the Skins D.
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I think the worry isn't his confidence but his inaccuracy. He needs to go out with a few of his receivers and practice a LOT hitting them in stride and down field.
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Nice long drive to rest the defense
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BEARS BALL!!!
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I was just going to say I feel for Keenum with the Bears with a lead. Gonna be a long night for him 👍
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About to be 21-0.
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TD BEARS!
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Keenum, you better have your ballistic undies on. Cause, dang. 😆
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I just hope they don't put their back up in. Back ups always kill us.
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FULLER!!!
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Don't make the kicker run and get the guy out of bounds when he's hurting already.
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Well, whatever problems the Bears face this season we can all be grateful they aren't the Redskins. Yeesh.
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What a int!!!! My game is a bit delayed on Slingtv
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First down!
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I'd love to see them hit a big throw downfield. They need to try at some point
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That's v why Fuller likes to play off the ball so he can break back on the pass
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Not sure I agree with that run call. Patterson isn't a up the middle guy. He needs to get to the outside where his speed makes the difference.
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I just don't get his inaccuracy. Why he keeps overthrowing those short routes. Take a breath step in to the throw.
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Challenge. One foot down other hit the pylon.
TD?
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I think that is a TD.
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Mitch must lead the league in yards out of bounds.
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That's a TD. His left foot is hitting the pylon too
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28-0 Bears!
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Definitely a breakout game. 28pts in the half. 28 zip 👍👍👍
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Mitch is an extremely talented QB with his head up his arse.
If they can break out of it Bears will be contenders
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28-3 Bears at the half!
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Rrrrr! 😡 Let them get a FG.😡
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WML, how is the wife doing?
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I wish they'd just call the game now. Nothing good can happen in the 2nd half.
Gabriel has shut me up. 2 TDs in 2018 and now 3 in one half!
I'd like to see them work on the run game in the 2nd half but not ultra conservative.
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YES!! Another pick by Dix!
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Hicks forced the bad throw
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Hate that they are going into a shell.
Missed FG. You know he is gimpy.
Stupid.
Keep scoring TD's. Mitch needs the work and so does everyone else.
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Run and PA passes should be the calls.
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I'd like to see Tru get more downfield attempts. He needs more reps to get on track.
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That TD is on Nagy. Should have punted last possession and pinned them deep instead of having your injured placekicker attempt a 44 yard field goal.
Horrible coaching by the NFL's worst.
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Redskins D will play it tighter now - nothing to lose and they know the Bears will be in conservative kill the clock mode.
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JeffH did Nagy **** your wife?
Your hatred for him is off the charts.
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I don't hate Nagy. He's just a bad football coach.
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That was defensive holding.
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Another bad throw by Tru. At the endzone no less.
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Bad throw by Mitch. Worse play call by Nagy.
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Nothing wrong with the call - the play was there with a deeper ball.
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Bears need to score here to keep this from getting too close.
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If the Bears lose this game I will join the JeffH I hate Nagy bandwagon.
Just saying.
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Wheels coming off? Very bearish
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Why on Earth are they going deep on a 3rd and short?? Get the first down! Stupid play calling. D has to stop them here
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WTH Bears?!??
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Bears ball!
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Why on Earth are they going deep on a 3rd and short?? Get the first down! Stupid play calling. D has to stop them here
Unbelievable play call - you need the first down not the touchdown.
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They needed that. Now quit with the ignorant play calls and wind that clock down!
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Like I said run and PA passes.
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No Howard. Bears could really use him about now
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We need a few first downs....geesh.
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"Unbelievable play call - you need the first down not the touchdown."
Wasn't anywhere near a TD. They simply needed a first to keep the chains and the clock moving.
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Montgomery is an improvement over Howard. Especially since he is just a rookie.
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Keep a drive going, get the first down, eat the clock, give the D a break. Losing Gabrielle and Hicks sucks. Hope they'll be ok.
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kicker is gimpy. Go for it on a PA pass.
Should seal the game.
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Or nail the FG that works also.
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ESPN talking heads are criticizing Trubisky's game.
He was awful tonight. 6 incomplete passes....1 pick.
BTW he did complete 80% of his passes with a 116 rating.
I'll take it.
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It was solid, but still frustrating...missing badly on wide open receivers and zeroing in on one target most plays...
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The guy bitching about him was a Redskins fan. The other guy I have no clue who he is.
Could Trubisky do better? Absolutely but he did pretty well.
Am I still concerned about the offense? Yes. Am I feeling better about it and Trubisky? Yes.
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Ha Ha
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Well a win is a win. Offense didnt look good at all. Yeah we scored 31 pts, I know. And Sunday we face the Queens. We better beat them at home, but we havent won at home this year.
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Dome team on the road - we have a great chance.
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Nope we are at home.
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That's what I said ....we are playing a DOME team that is on the road.
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Bears have the toughest remaining schedule by far of any team in the league: .692 opponents win%.
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Definitely a step forward for Mitch and the offense but still very sloppy.
Finally Nagy was able to scheme some open receivers but it's still alarming how many Mitch either didn't throw to or missed.
Once he under threw Robinson in the end zone it was obvious to me there's a confidence issue. You tend to short arm the throw or over compensate and throw too long when you're spooked.
We'll see if time takes care of that.
Our run game is still pathetic. I think Trubisky would be somewhat better if they were getting 5 yards on first down instead of two. Long is hurt and we had the rookie Lukas for Massie. Lucas overall played surprisingly well.
Cohen's gotten nothing so far this year.
Pagano is going to give me a heart attack with his 4th quarter defenses but I guess you can't argue with the results.
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WML, how is the wife doing?
She said I didn’t have to be such an ass when we scored the pick six. It went downhill from there. :)
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A win is a win. However that Redskins team is bad, really bad. Not sure I am feeling real great about the Bears this year. We absolutely have a solid D, but our OL and QB are bad.
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For a safety who has a built a reputation of getting picks, I am shocked that was Ha Ha's first defensive TD since "little league" pee wee.
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"Definitely a step forward for Mitch and the offense but still very sloppy."
I disagree. If you want to call a step a step it would have to be baby's first step which is fragile and trepidacious. If it werent for the defensive turnovers we wouldnt have won. Thats not what I call a step forward. Mitch wasnt Kalil Mack. And if it doesnt improve to last years level of play by Sunday they will regress to 0-2 at home which isnt going to thrill the home fan base.
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That was/is a bad Washington football team. qb still needs to run more. that Patterson guy in the backfield aint howard. Its football. clever only goes so far, you still gotta smash the other guy
more than he smashes you. Redskins shouldn't ever been in that game. If the bear doesn't start running better gonna lose more than win I'm afraid.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/23/bears-vs-redskins-3-causes-for-concern-in-week-3-matchup/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline
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I fell asleep during halftime.... I want to see on occasion a power I with Montgomery back there and just smash the ball. They tried it with Patterson. We saw Mitch miss on a simple screen. It seems the receivers rarely made yac because they had to stop and make a leap to catch the ball or dig it out of the dirt a lot.
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The one good play from Montgomery was when he tried to run up the middle, saw the hole gone and split outside for 25 yards.
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the LeVeon run...
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Bears needs to get Montgomery at least 20 touches per game. He's got that leverage thing going on when contact is initiated.
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Montgomery has been impressive, even though the line has yet to open barely a single hole for him.
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That is the problem. No holes from the Oline. And having the ORT out sure didnt help. Oline not playing as a unit yet. No reps during the preseason.
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According to Brad Bigg's article Massie had a Vertigo episode a few days ago.
I didn't see if there was any presser today but people I know have taken several months of medication to recover.
Gabriel certainly won't play next game with a concussion on a short week.
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It seems that the Bears cannot have and keep nice things on the field for some reason :D
Instead of Patterson on that I formation thingy Nagy uses he should have Montgomery. Imagine what that extra blocker could do for the kid (he wouldn't keep getting hit at or behind the LOS).....
Nagy still is an ADD coach with regards to which folks are on the field in relation to the play calling. He seems to trying to be too cute fitting square-ish pegs into round holes. As such Nagy watch isn't over yet.....
That said, a win (of any sort) versus the Vikings would go a long way.....
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To me it looks like a win against the Queens Sunday would parallel a miracle.
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Cousin can't handle our D. We will win in a close one.
Cousin only wins when he has time ion the pocket. I am guessing he does not finish this game. We have been on the road for TWO games, BOTH WINS - I am guessing the D will be very fired up for the home crowd.
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Bears defense needs more than being fired up when the 4th quarter rolls around. They need healthy players and contributions from their backups.
But mostly they need an offense to put up points, especially when given good field position after turnovers. They also need an offense that can keep the defense off the field - control time of possession.
The defense has been compromised in the 4th quarter of the last 2 games. Offense put up 24 points with only 3 in the 2nd half. That's not enough when you get 5 turnovers.
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To me it looks like a win against the Queens Sunday would parallel a miracle.
That's not really wishful thinking...
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I keep thinking about this... unless maybe Nagy was trying to set something up for later. I mean right now you cannot assume anything based on personnel. If you think about it, a guy that is 6’2” 238 that runs a 4.4 forty, he can be used in a lot of ways. I can’t figure out why he hasn’t done more in the league.
......Instead of Patterson on that I formation thingy Nagy uses he should have Montgomery. Imagine what that extra blocker could do for the kid (he wouldn't keep getting hit at or behind the LOS).....
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Nagy has to stop trying to be too smart and just use the best players at their best positions, if for nothing else than to get a little continuity going in this offense.
I think that would go a long way to getting this offense to look at least average.....
Can't afford to go 0-2 in the Division (and at home !)
Go Bears !
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That's not really wishful thinking...
Its the reality side of me
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I agree, I feel if you have a base set with Robinson, Miller, Gabriel, Burton and Montgomery, you have enough weapons there to score on most teams. No need to get cute all the time. Mix in a little Cohen and Patterson when you need more speed and maybe add some Wims when you need more size.
Nagy has to stop trying to be too smart and just use the best players at their best positions, if for nothing else than to get a little continuity going in this offense.
..,,,
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Does anyone watch the games on Hulu?
My wife wants to cancel the "ticket" and use Hulu? I'm skeptical whether or not they show all of the Bears games.
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I'm skeptical as well. Let us know what you find out..
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Google, Reddit NFL streams.
ABout 30 min before the games start that link will populate with game links for online vendors.
Use the one from Bilassports or Buffstreams. high quality, make sure you use ad blocker as well. Btw, this works for all sports Reddit MLB streams... reddit NFL streams... etc
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Google, Reddit NFL streams.
ABout 30 min before the games start that link will populate with game links for online vendors.
Use the one from Bilassports or Buffstreams. high quality, make sure you use ad blocker as well. Btw, this works for all sports Reddit MLB streams... reddit NFL streams... etc
thanks
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Just finished watching the game. Interesting in the 2nd quarter that Kwaitkowski and Irving were playing a bunch. Seems when those guys get in to give others a rest our D gets soft.
Mitch missing wide open WRs again still makes me sad. Glad for the win, dont have confidence we can score on the Vikes D, even at home.
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Just finished watching the game. Interesting in the 2nd quarter that Kwaitkowski and Irving were playing a bunch. Seems when those guys get in to give others a rest our D gets soft.
Mitch missing wide open WRs again still makes me sad. Glad for the win, dont have confidence we can score on the Vikes D, even at home.
And Lynch played a lot with Irving. He had offsides on consecutive plays.
You would think the Bears could do as well as when they played the Vikings at home last year.
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The Defense gives us a chance in every single game, but even they won't be able to hold up if the O isn't moving the ball and allowing them some rest on the bench...
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Does anyone watch the games on Hulu?
My wife wants to cancel the "ticket" and use Hulu? I'm skeptical whether or not they show all of the Bears games.
Where do you live?
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Where do you live?
California
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SlingTV and Redzone for me- goes well with my Rokus.
Watch Redzone all day, then later (depending on night game) the full Bear game with NFL Gamepass....
As an aside, if I'm pressed for time (or the Bears lose :D) they post the condensed game (each snap) by the next day so I can watch it in 30 mins or so.....
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California
It isn't free, but the NFL.Com TV works well. Unlike MLB.Com, you can't watch the game live, but must wait until the game has been over for at least an hour. But it is just as easy to watch the game her in Florida on Sunday evening rather than Sunday afternoon. As long as you haven't heard the score, it really makes no difference. And they cut out all the damb commercials.
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Can you use this out of the country?
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Thanks for the ideas.
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The best thing about Gamepass is the all 22. And yeah you can use outside the US, but only where you purchased it (https://support.nflgamepass.com/hc/en-gb/articles/360004691153-Where-is-NFL-Game-Pass-available-).
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Cool - going to be out of the country a couple time is the next three months.
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Close game today but we come out with the win.
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Roquan (personal), Long, Gabriel, and Hicks all OUT
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I don't see us winning with all those guys out. They will be able to run on us.
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I agree. Hicks and Smith are extremely important to this defense. Any word on why Roquan is out?
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We're screwed
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Daniel is looking pretty good so far.
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Anyone explain that throw? What was he thinking there??
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TD BEARS!
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Did I miss something? Didnt' see the start of the game. Did Tru get hurt???
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Yes hurt his left shoulder. Looked bad.
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He is in the locker room.
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Looks like a separated shoulder. At least it's the left
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Well Loins lost, GB lost, we beat Vikes we'll be sitting pretty...gotta win this one
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At least Kwiatkowski is good against the run
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Missed most ofthis quarter cause they keep breaking in due to the weather. Annoying as ****.
I mean once is fine but they have done it 4 times for extended periods already.
Make that 5 times now. Keep breaking to the local newsdouche trying to get his 15 minutes of fame.
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Still got the newsdouchecanoe.
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Well Daniel is looking better than Trubisky already...
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Certainly more accurate from what I have been able to see.
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So that was a push off by Robinson but the Vikings defender did grab him by the shoulder first. Just saying.
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Thanks for keeping their drive alive Lynch dumbazz.
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Bears D bringing it!
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WTF?
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Dumb thing to do jackson
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These penalties are ridiculous!
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Sign of a poorly coached team.
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That should be a fumble. He put it away and made a football move.
But I doubt it gets overturned.
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Bears ball!
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These refs suck. Bad calls against both teams. Whistlng that fumble dead was huge.
Bad call on roughing the passer.
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Nice work by Robinson.
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Damn it. Larson down. We are **** cause Long is out.
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Cohen, all sorts of room...and stumbles....
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Huge hole and Cohen trips over his own feet.
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First down!
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Daniel is making me nervous holding the ball so long.
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What a unbelievable throw and catch!!! wow...Daniel to Cohen...
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Cohen was bobbling it.
Daniel is definitely WAY more accurate then Trubisky.
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Hands to the face not called on the Vikings!
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Stupid refs...Daniel PUNCHED in the head...and nothing...
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Forfuck'ssake another weather report!!!
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MOtherfucker, thewy come back thent he newdouche comes back with no fuckingnews!!!!
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This is the 7th **** interruption witht he dude just droning on about **** that doesn't even matter. Then he takers like 5 minutes to tell us we are going back to the game. Don't tell us just fuckingdoit!
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Still weathershit! I have missed 75% of the first half witht his crap!
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I don't mind them keeping us updated or even breaking in. But 10 or 15 minutes of this guy breaking down every single detail of their HD radar is pissingmethefuckoff! We don't care. Tell us where the danger is and get back tot he game already.
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Well, as usual, the first half belonged to the Bears. What are the chances that they go into prevent defense and manage to lose it in the second half?
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Too bad the refs called that forced fumble by Amakamura on Diggs incomplete because i think Dix had a chance for a td on the return
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BEARS BALL!
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Good!
13-0 Bears!
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Nagy is so awful.
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Wims!
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Bears may very well be a better team with Daniel as the QB.
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Daniel right now is showing up Trubisky badly....
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16-0 Bears!
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Bears may very well be a better team with Daniel as the QB.
Today
But give a good defense a week to game plan and you're goig to see like last year.
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Good God, Mitch who? Didn’t see this one coming after he went down
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Challenge that!
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Bears never had possession.
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Don't fair catch that at the frigging 5yrd line!!
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McManis!
Hell of a tackle!
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This DEFENSE is AWESOME!!!
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I want the shut out!
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Kwiatkowski is just a pure football player
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First down!
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Holding!
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Bear in a shell now
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I hate the soft D. Play for the shut out!
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That was huge stopping their 2 point play
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Great game today by the depleted defense!
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Game ball goes to Goldman and the rest of the DT's who filled in for Hicks imo.
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How many years did Cousins sign for? He’s not much of anything at all.
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Thought for the day. How are they going to replace Trubisky?
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The only person who knows the offense is Bray.
They'll put him on the roster for the duration of the injury
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davebear I agree. However it depends on the length of Trubisky's injury. If it is going to be a few weeks then that is how they should roll.
However if Trubisky is done for the season or for a great length of time it might be time to look into acquiring Manning.
The window is small in the NFL and ours is right now.
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Very impressed with Daniel today against a very tough defense.
Kwiatkoski lead the D with 10 tackles, 9 solo, 1 sack and 2 tackles for loss....yes, Kwiatkoski.
Pineiro was 3 for 3 FGs.
O'Donnells punting kept the Vikes pinned in their own territory.
Neither RB did well, both with a 2.5yr avg. But incredibly Cook, the leading NFL rusher, did much worse in yards-35 to 53, and that against a depleted defense.
Just a awesome performance today.
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Next week is K. Mack's first time playing Oakland since they traded him.....Would NOT want to be Oakland OL or QB next week!!!!
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I believe Nick Williams had 2 sacks
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The D was unreal today while missing several key starters. That bodes well for the future.
The O did fairly well under a top 3 defense under Daniel.
We should beat the Raiders and be 4-1 going into the bye.
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Kudos to Nick Kwiatkowski & Nick Williams. Both played like All-Pros.
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The Day of the Nicks!
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I just hope they can get away from passes to the line of scrimmage on 3rd downs
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Kwitkofskit played well today. He does well going toward the LOS vs chasing receivers.
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Chad Kelly.
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That was my thought.
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Another thing to think about is the game next Sunday is in London, not USA, but of course you all knew that. That makes a difference in practice and preparation. Things will happen quickly, especially with the injuries.
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YES, Chad Kelly please.
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All you need to see what Mack provides to this defense can be seen on the lone TD drive they gave up. Mack was out (at least for the 3rd and short at the goal line).
Without him they are good. With him they are GREAT. Wonderful feeling seeing that. Too many stupid penalties though (WTF up with Jackson canceling out a good D play with a dumbass penalty ?).
Competent offense is all this team needs for most games. It still feels too scatter-brained. Good to see Wims get some looks (and Robinson is a true #!).
Give some props to Special Teams as well. Good kickoffs, punting, coverage and Eddie Money made all his kicks.
Good win. Sucks that Trubs got hurt. This team cannot seem to get and keep QBs. Some kind of curse for sure....
Go Bears !
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Kwit v. Cook
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ThoughtfulCalculatingBlackandtancoonhound-mobile.mp4
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Most excellent D performance. I thought for sure the second I heard Roquan was out this was a loss. Kwaitkowski had a super game, although he wasnt really called into coverage too much, a good thing. And Goldman started, but did he get hurt or were they resting him later in the game? And put me down for thinking Daniel looked much more accurate with his pass placement.
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The Bears deactivated linebacker Roquan Smith for Sunday’s game against the Vikings and it’s unclear whether he will return to action in Week Five.
Personal matters were cited as the reason why Smith did not play and head coach Matt Nagy did not elaborate on Smith’s situation after the 16-6 victory. During a Monday appearance on WBBM Newsradio, the coach did not say whether Smith will travel to London with the team to face the Raiders.
“We’ll see,” Nagy said. “We’re still working through all that. We’ll see where that goes.”
Linebacker Nick Kwiatkoski took Smith’s spot in the lineup and posted nine tackles, a sack, two tackles for a loss and a forced fumble.
“I’m proud of the way he stepped up,” linebacker Danny Trevathan said, via 670 The Score. “When he came in, I knew there was going to be no letdown, no letup.”
The Bears may be counting on Kwiatkoski again this week.
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https://sportsmockery.com/2019/09/possible-reason-for-roquan-smith-missing-bears-vikings-game-revealed/
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Did anyone else see the Club Dub video with Kyle Long with no shirt on? He looks like he hasnt been in a weight room for YEARS.... Just saying.
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My only complaint about yesterday is that there sure wer a lot of receivers and backs running sideways when they were close to a first down.
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Also WTF was up with Cohen making a fair catch at the 5 ? The return game is doing no favors as far as ST goes this year.....
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I’ve spent a decent amount of time in the gym and reading about bodybuilding, powerlifting and fitness. A great deal of having visibly defined muscles is diet and the type of lifting you do. Most guys competing in power lifting competitions look nothing like the guys bodybuilding. They usually look pretty “fluffy”.
In reading some of Mark Rippetoe’s work, he claims to reach your peak strength, you need to eat a little more as it is impossible to build strength (outside of newb gains) unless you are in caloric excess.
Did anyone else see the Club Dub video with Kyle Long with no shirt on? He looks like he hasnt been in a weight room for YEARS.... Just saying.
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Did anyone else see the Club Dub video with Kyle Long with no shirt on? He looks like he hasnt been in a weight room for YEARS.... Just saying.
ummmm... Linemen are usually not cut. They are strong as **** bastards just aren't very ripped.
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Trubisky will be traveling with the team
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2019/9/30/20892259/bears-injuries-akiem-hicks-kyle-long-vikings-matt-nagy
Trib wont let me in anymore. Not paying for it
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Abdullah Anderson waived, Bray will be rostered.
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Trubisky will be traveling with the team
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2019/9/30/20892259/bears-injuries-akiem-hicks-kyle-long-vikings-matt-nagy
Trib wont let me in anymore. Not paying for it
Clear your browser's history and you can get 5 more free articles.
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Kwiatowski was sometimes replaced on passing downs when he wasn't blitzing by Kevin Pierre-Louis (#57). Though I only saw him for a few plays that cat can move and hit. He's ahead of last 2018 draft pick Joel Iyiegbuniwe on the depth chart at ILB.
Trevathan and Kwiatowski are both FAs at year end.
Just when I start thinking about replacing Amukamora next year he has a game like he did Sunday.
Glad Wims got some targets. Was Ridley active? Bears need to be rotating multiple receivers into games instead of just using the standard 3.
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Thoughts from the game:
1. Daniels was an excellent game manager. He did what we need to win - and did not turn the ball over. He got rid of the ball quickly and was super confident throwing. He KNOWS the offense - I do not think Mitch understands the O.
2. If Mitch tucks the ball away and takes the loss he is still playing - I am still pissed he did not get MAJOR preseason minutes - guess what, he is now hurt.
3. Defense was amazing and our D is super deep - we have a lot of linebackers who can step up.
4. Nick Williams - your table is ready - great game. Next man up.
5. I don't remember them calling Fueller or Amukamura's name once - that's a good thing.
6. Montgomery needs MORE carries in a game. Seems like they wanted to get Cohen the ball more.
7. The line play was better.
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My point on Long wasnt that he wasnt cut, as I would never expect a lineman to be. My point was look at his chest, his arms look big and strong but his pecs look flat and deflated. Like he hasnt been lifting in a long time.
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Daniel, who many here wanted to cut in the preseason, seemed much more decisive than Mitch. His short/intermediate throws were on target and had good velocity.
Daniel's game may suffer if the pocket deteriorates - he's not nearly as mobile as Mitch but he seems to have a better sense of pressure and gets rid of the ball prior to getting sacked.
Bears are better off with Mitch but Daniel can win you some games as a reliever. Remember last year when he beat Detroit but lost to the lowly Giants. Vikings were not ready for Daniel but the Raiders will be.
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Thoughts from the game:
1. Daniels was an excellent game manager. He did what we need to win - and did not turn the ball over. He got rid of the ball quickly and was super confident throwing. He KNOWS the offense - I do not think Mitch understands the O.
2. If Mitch tucks the ball away and takes the loss he is still playing - I am still pissed he did not get MAJOR preseason minutes - guess what, he is now hurt.
3. Defense was amazing and our D is super deep - we have a lot of linebackers who can step up.
4. Nick Williams - your table is ready - great game. Next man up.
5. I don't remember them calling Fueller or Amukamura's name once - that's a good thing.
6. Montgomery needs MORE carries in a game. Seems like they wanted to get Cohen the ball more.
7. The line play was better.
I'm always amazed how well the Bears DB's cover Vikings WR's who are quite good.
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Kwiatowski was sometimes replaced on passing downs when he wasn't blitzing by Kevin Pierre-Louis (#57). Though I only saw him for a few plays that cat can move and hit. He's ahead of last 2018 draft pick Joel Iyiegbuniwe on the depth chart at ILB.
Trevathan and Kwiatowski are both FAs at year end.
Just when I start thinking about replacing Amukamora next year he has a game like he did Sunday.
Glad Wims got some targets. Was Ridley active? Bears need to be rotating multiple receivers into games instead of just using the standard 3.
According to one sportswriter when the Bears gave Whitehair a lot of money it meant they won't resign Long and Amakamura.
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Both Long and Amukamara are signed through 2020...both are 30.
Amukamara probably has more of a chance of playing next year since he's doing well so far and there is no up and coming CB on the roster that can fill his shoes. Long is coming off a dreadful Redskin game and is either underperforming or injured. Bears have the 32 year old Ted Larsen as his backup Rashard Coward and the rookie from Notre Dame on the PS could be future options to replace Long.
It's a whole lot easier to find a quality guard than a quality CB.
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Not sure why the writer from Da Windy City said they would not be resigned if they have another year.
Long is hurt. He's had a hip injury the last few weeks.
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This definitely Longs last year. He is hurt every year. They could also have Daniels and Whitehair at guard and find a center.
Prince has a year or two of real good football left.
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Nothing against Amukamara, but he's lost a step, I want next year's 1st draft pick to be a CB.
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There will be several holes to fix and no 3rd and 4th round picks.
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Daniel's bad game last year was a rainy one too - had the ball slip out of his hand a few times
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Its funny that even those that get paid to comment and write for the NFL seem to keep calling Chase Daniel with "Chase Daniels". Think I even saw an infographic during the game that even had "Daniels".
Career serviceable backup and they can't even get your name right :D
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Ehh I call him either. Daniels just sounds more natural for some reason.....
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Charlie Daniels, Jack Daniels, Chase Daniels, they all just flow....
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Not sure why the writer from Da Windy City said they would not be resigned if they have another year.
I didn't see the article but he might have been thinking they could be candidates to be cut since the Bears may have some upcoming cap issues. But as far as 2020 - its Trevathan and Dix that are FAs and possibly Ray Robertston-Harris.
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Charlie Daniels, Jack Daniels, Chase Daniels, they all just flow....
Heck yeah!
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They still add on to Alshon's last name too
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Raiders got destroyed by Seattle last year who arrived in London early. The Raiders learned their lesson and are practicing in London now. It may not be that big a factor and I get why Nagy wants to stick with the Halas Hall routine as long as possible. But I think it would be advantageous to get the long flight over with.
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We know Trubisky is out and sounds like Smith too, but I'd bet guys like Hicks and maybe Gabriel will be held out so they get extra time off with the upcoming bye after Oakland.
Can Bears defense contain Derek Carr enough so the Bears offense can put up more points than Oakland?
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Certain games 'should' be winners and this is one of them. The schedule gets much tougher later, so they need to put full effort and time into winning this and not sit on their laurels expecting a win. If ANY impact player is available, he needs to play, IMO. I'd hate to see them lose a winnable game, lose to a tougher opponent later, and then miss the playoffs because they didn't win the games they should have.....
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Roquan practicing today, could play sunday. Great news.
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Nagy, is going by what Kansas City did when he was there. They flew to London on Thursday and won their game.
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Certain games 'should' be winners and this is one of them. The schedule gets much tougher later, so they need to put full effort and time into winning this and not sit on their laurels expecting a win. If ANY impact player is available, he needs to play, IMO. I'd hate to see them lose a winnable game, lose to a tougher opponent later, and then miss the playoffs because they didn't win the games they should have.....
Agree they better not blow this.
If a guy like Hicks is ok i would like to see them have him dressed but not play unless the D falters.
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the tape never lies guy says Leno stinks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwi4xYadC7g
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Looks like I will miss Sunday's Bear game. Thanks to Dish.
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They used to play the London game early so it could be nationally televised..
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Its listed as 1 EST in the schedule so that's like 6 PM their time. Primetime game ! :D
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Hell of a catch by Montgomery.
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Leno sucks!
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Gruden is out coaching Pagano. He better adjust quick. Cause anyone with a brain should have known the raiders game plan would be run the ball and throw quick passes to tire out the D.
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WTF Daniel!!!
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Bears going to blow this game? Terrible start.... Where's the D??
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Gruden is out coaching Pagano. He better adjust quick. Cause anyone with a brain should have known the raiders game plan would be run the ball and throw quick passes to tire out the D.
Coaching_
They're getting physically dominated
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What a **** show.
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They haven't done a damn thing right the entire half.
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Well this isn’t going the way Nagy thought it would. Bears are playing as a team like they are jet lagged, which they very well may be.
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Yep, Mack and the D looks jetlagged. And we are shiiting the bed, nice. Gruden is coaching circles around Nagy. The O Line blows chunks. Heistand should be left in London, and Long can sit the rest of the game, if only we could replace Leno and Massie at the same time. And if Pagano wants to try blitzing, please try ANYTHING, as what you did in the first half didnt work.
This is a typical trap game and we are going to lose. Mark it down.
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Oh yeah, I cant wait to see the Tape Doesnt Lie video after this cluster.
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Three and out. What a clusterfuck!
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What a pile of steamy sh!t!! Nagy is really looking like his level is at coordinator. Another miss by the Bears. The D looks lost, the Raiders are running at will...
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TD BEARS!
They sure needed that.
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MILLER!!!
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TD BEARS!!!
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I can't believe Daniel threw that pass to Miller. Fortunately it went through the defenders hands.
I'm not thinking Daniel's decision making is better than Mitch
Looks like they'll be trying out kickers.
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TARIK COHEN!!!
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TD BEARS!!!
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21-17 Bears!
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Ha! They showed Pinero could barely get up after the last extra point holding his knee but he's back out there like nothing happened.
Hope the defense doesn't get gassed and let this one go.
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BEARS BALL!!!
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Mcmannis great play.
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LMAO! That’s a catch, and **** incredible!
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Both feet were down. The ball moved when he hit the ground though. couldn't see if his hand was under it.
This will be close.
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FIRST DOWN!!!
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Charles Leno is having a rough year...
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Daniel WTF?
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Holy ****!
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Bears got really lucky there.
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How lucky was that
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Bad call.
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Refs giving the bears a freebie.
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Hey the Raiders touched the QB!!!!
Where’s the protection flag???
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The bears can't stop the run
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That's a flop.
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BEARS BALL!
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I knew they were going to go for it.
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Damn. Going back to the Raiders.
Bears should have been ready for that.
Come on.
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Ajhhhh no fumble
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These missed tackles are killing them.
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They will score and win the game if the D doesn't come up with a turn over here.
There isn't going to be any time left.
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Actually lucky they scored that quick.
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Not watching. They going for 2??
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Raiders up by 3.
Bears driving in Raiders territory. Two time outs and over a minute to play.
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2nd and 10 1:22 to go. 47 yard line.
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Daniel threw another WTF interception. Game over.
Bears lose.
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Just as well they didn't deserve to win.
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Only about 5 defenders in the area
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And no Bears receiver anywhere close.
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Daniel had money on the Raiders, no question. I would trade Long/Leno/Massie all three heads up for Richie Incognito. Our OL is putrid. Long needs to be put down and sent to the glue factory. And Leno with him. This was putrid, and if they hadnt suckked so hard the first half, maybe we would have won. I think they thought they were just going to go in and win the game, but Chuckie out coached Nagy, hands down. ANd that running into the kicker? Seriously, ST kind of stinks as well. A roller coaster and I am just numb right now. Not sure Trubisky would have done any better, as he is erratic, but at least he wouldnt have any money on the game. And Mr Mack, the hype got to you, sorry.
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Well at least we don't have a QB controversy...
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Jim Miller just said Richie Incognito OWNED Eddie Goldman. Have to agree, as Goldman wasnt mentioned and they ran all day long
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We dont have a decent QB, period. The real good news is we wont have to have another roller coaster ride for 2 weeks. And No jet lag excuse the rest of the year.
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I'm not going to blame the coach for linemen being physically dominated. That's on them they're professionals.
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ALl I can say is that I am NOT impressed with the Harry Heistand era.
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They just said that Leno is the most penalized lineman in THE ENTIRE NFL!!!!! Um, hellllllooooo
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3 and 2 isn't the end of the world... But damm, that was horrific.. So our O line is terrible, we have no QB.. WE have a heckuva D, oh wait... That was a sorry display of defense... What the fukk do we have.. I just watched the pack drive on the Cowboys like a hot knife through butter. New coach... WTF?
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Since our O Line blows chunks, we have no run game, which means all the fancy craap our Head Coach wants to do doesnt work as it should. We are going to waste a good D this year, kind of like last year. IF we had a superstar QB, like Roders/Brady/Mahomes, it would be a different situation, but we may never ever have one of those.
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Anyone know how long it takes to recover from a dislocated elbow_?
Losing Hicks really hurt.
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I was thinking about that too. Hicks didnt play last week and we were ok. Abduhlla was inactive, maybe they should have made him active. Just saying.
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Surgery IR would be a big blow
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Wanted the Bears to trade into the 1st and get Jacobs. Man, is he going to be good.
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The Bears can't get decent QB play, then you look at what 6th-rounder Minshew is doing for Jacksonville. It's beyond depressing.
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Nagy is the NFL's worst head coach.
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ALl I can say is that I am NOT impressed with the Harry Heistand era.
me either
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I think our defense was hearing too much about them being better than the '85 Bears.
As bad as our O-line and d-line played somehow the Bears had a chance to get a tie or a win at the end. Not sure what happened on that last play, otherwise Daniel had a pretty decent game.
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Daniel's two INTs were real head scratchers, like he was on purpose throwing to the other team. Kind of no excuse INTs.
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There also was no excuse to give up the drive that led to the final go-ahead TD for the Raiduhs. Think the D spent too much time reading their clippings and not enough study of Raider tendancies.....
Hate overseas games. Always have and always will. But both teams have to play so there is that. Look at the bright side. The offense finally scored 21 points ! Still mystified that other teams with far less talent seem to get that much each week........
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97 yard drive for their final score? From this D? There is no excuse for that. They didn't get help from the special teams which fvcked up big but they have to not allow that late in the game.
The Defense got their asses handed to them. The WHOLE GAME.
The Raiders shut down the run and dared the Bears to beat them with Chase Daniel. He couldn't do it.
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And after that running into the kicker, on 4th and 1, you just knew Gruden wasnt going to punt, I saw that sneak coming a mile away. That was a brutal couple of plays.
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That was the game-changer there - they had the momentum until the fake punt was successful
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Of course - I thought it was gonna be 40-0 after the first-half domination
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The whole world knew the fake was coming.
WHY EVEN RUSH THE PUNTER IN THE FIRST PLACE?!
You stopped them. You are getting the ball back with 6:00 to play and the lead with field position.
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Tabor ST coach is average on his best days. Thought before the season began he was the weakest of the coordinators but now I've got to wonder wtf Hiestand is smoking. Oline regression is inexcuseable.....
Undisciplined teams lose games they should win. Simple.
I think this was a perfect storm game of jet-lag, mind-numbing errors (both coaches and players) and general hubris.
Bears got served a dish of humble pie. The real test is where they go from here (Vikings prevented their implosion this week. Can the Bears do that over the Bye ?)...
Sophmore slump for Nagy for sure. Still does not seem to use his personnel correctly (Cohen is NOT a premier back. WAKE THE **** UP NAGY and use your tools correctly).
He's a good tool (and you have others too). Put away the Coach of the Year trophy, get back to basic football. and USE THEM. Think of where this O would be without Robinson......
Again, you see teams with less talent on O scoring more than this underachieving group. Frustrating. But they are 3-2. The season is not over. But as usual they cannot make it easy on themselves.....
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Derek Carr carved up the Bears with short passes to predominantly TEs. You won't find a household name among there skill position players besides Carr and the rookie Jacobs.
Short passes. Double Mack and take your chances with the Floyd and the d-line. That coupled with the total inability to stop the run. We need Hicks and Nichols back now.
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The whole world knew the fake was coming.
WHY EVEN RUSH THE PUNTER IN THE FIRST PLACE?!
You stopped them. You are getting the ball back with 6:00 to play and the lead with field position.
Yes, set up the return. But even if the Bears get the ball Nagy, with the 4 point lead, would have went ball control to try to kill the clock, and with the Bears running game they would be punting it right back to the Raiders.
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The O-line sucks because Jay Leno is the most penalized OT in the NFL, Long can not longer block - he great many years ago, but he physically can't do, Daniels is struggling mightily at center - he can not get on his blocks. Massie is below average.
Not sure who the backup center is, but I move Daniels to guard and sit Long - Long's body can no longer do it.
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On that fake punt you can even see the snapper angle the punt towards the up man. Just terrible. It's Gruden - he does that all the time.
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Derek Carr carved up the Bears with short passes to predominantly TEs. You won't find a household name among there skill position players besides Carr and the rookie Jacobs.
Short passes. Double Mack and take your chances with the Floyd and the d-line. That coupled with the total inability to stop the run. We need Hicks and Nichols back now.
Yep - basically how the Packers beat us. This needs to be fixed. BUT - everyone and their brother knew Jacobs was running on first down - yet we were not ready.
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If the Raiders TE isn’t a household name yet, he will be soon...
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Yep Waller and #87 were huge. Great players.
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And where was our #2 draft choice Adam Shaheen? Did I miss the injury report? Or has our recent FA TE beat him out?
Other than an occassional 5 yard pass to Burton we are not getting anything from the TE position.
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yeah, looks like Holtz has beat out Shaheen.
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Yep - basically how the Packers beat us. This needs to be fixed. BUT - everyone and their brother knew Jacobs was running on first down - yet we were not ready.
It was the Bears who were consistently running on first down. The Raiders would often get 8 or 9 yards on first downs passing...at least they were in the 2nd half.
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Shaheen now pretty much officially looks like just another guy. He'd better block well or I would rather see a guy like Dan Brown replace him.
Not sure why Burton looks so sluggish unless he is not recovered. Should be able to tell after the bye.
According to all the media experts, the Raiders have a much bigger OL than most so they could power our smaller DL especially w/o Hicks.
They were also cut blocking which really intimidated Goldman especially. They were only called once.
According to the SCORE, the Patriots tried to sign Alex Bars off our practice squad last week and the Bears gave him a roster salary and persuaded him to stay. Good move by Pace. My guess is they want more time to coach him up and see him replacing Long.
Long needs to sit for as long as it take to get healthy, he's ineffective now.
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Long just has had too many major injuries. It catches up with these guys. Steve McMichael once said the every play for offensive and defensive lineman is like a car crash. It's pretty brutal. He had a good run. 3 Pro Bowls.
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Every time Shaheen gets hit he looks like he will not get up.
Travathan and Floyd and Smith got destroyed by the Raiders O-line as well.
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Didn't see it , didn't get in till 9 pm last night, ass is dragging at work, doesn't sound like I missed much, would have had to go to a bar to watch, dunno if its that important
to me anymore. Same song with the Bears over and over. Lovie got the Bear to the superbowl along with Chico, Jauron had a 13-3 season, last year was fun, this year ? meh. I didn't
Like the Howard trade, we all know Cohen at some point is going to get busted into a million pcs. Robert Gentry couldn't play every down and neither can he, The OL is no where near
as good as last year, the TE position has gone completely south, somehow the Bears have to score more points. I hate to see Long keep playing, he's young and when he gets old, It'll be
bad. I think its gonna take more than 2 weeks to fix this. that was a long plane ride back I bet.
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I'm assuming Miller ran the wrong route on that last int. It was still triple coverage if he hadnt shortened up the route. Still a horrible decision by Daniel, he had quite a few yesterday.
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Didn't see it , didn't get in till 9 pm last night, ass is dragging at work, doesn't sound like I missed much, would have had to go to a bar to watch, dunno if its that important
to me anymore. Same song with the Bears over and over. Lovie got the Bear to the superbowl along with Chico, Jauron had a 13-3 season, last year was fun, this year ? meh. I didn't
Like the Howard trade, we all know Cohen at some point is going to get busted into a million pcs. Robert Gentry couldn't play every down and neither can he, The OL is no where near
as good as last year, the TE position has gone completely south, somehow the Bears have to score more points. I hate to see Long keep playing, he's young and when he gets old, It'll be
bad. I think its gonna take more than 2 weeks to fix this. that was a long plane ride back I bet.
Dennis Gentry... fixed it! I miss seeing him play. Cohen needs to be on the field during 3rd and longs, occasionally in the slot, etc. Nagy reminds me of a coach that has certain players he wants to play and forgets the other ones until there is like 2 minutes left.
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I said my ass was dragging. oops! bell. back to it. thx for fixing it. Maury county schools are out, had a great drive in. Assume you did too.
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Dennis Gentry... fixed it! I miss seeing him play. Cohen needs to be on the field during 3rd and longs, occasionally in the slot, etc. Nagy reminds me of a coach that has certain players he wants to play and forgets the other ones until there is like 2 minutes left.
Bears QBs like to go to the same couple of receivers game after game. Hard to argue since Robinson is so successful. But notice with Gabriel out more balls went to Miller. But the #3 receiver (Wims) is ignored just as Miller was when he was #3.
But I can't fault the passing game too much, considering the Bears had their backup Daniel and he had absolutely no help from the run game and was in must pass situations most of the game.
If the Bears D could have shut down the run game they could have contended with the short passing game. But with the short game accuracy of Carr AND the running game - Bears pass defenders were exposed.
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Derek Carr carved up the Bears with short passes to predominantly TEs. You won't find a household name among there skill position players besides Carr and the rookie Jacobs.
Short passes. Double Mack and take your chances with the Floyd and the d-line. That coupled with the total inability to stop the run. We need Hicks and Nichols back now.
Speaking of Floyd.. WTF? Another wasted pick, what year is he?
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Zero sacks.. That tells you something..
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Bars is pretty damn loyal to Coach Harry and the Bears in turning down a spot on the Pats 53.
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The annoying thing is that the Bears OL got destroyed by a Raiders DL that was dominated by the Vikings OL and running game a week before the Bears DL manhandled the Vikings OL. Welcome to parity in the NFL.
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Zero sacks.. That tells you something..
Nobody had any sacks in the Raiders game. Carr is pretty mobile and adept at unloading the ball before getting sacked and with the Raiders strategy of short passes made it even more difficult to get to the QB.
And FYI Floyd has 2 sacks this season.
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Sad part is Montgomery 11 rushes and 23 yard.
Nice backup, but not a starter. We have no #1 back. Ridiculous.
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Did you see the holes that Jacobs had this weekend? Now imagine Montgomery playing with the Raiders and running through those same holes.
Not saying Montgomery is as good as Jacobs but he has to have some daylight.
Tarik Cohen averaged 4.3 yards his rookie year. 4.5 last year. This year 2.2.
I don't think it's all on the O-line, teams don't fear our passing game.
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hard to run downhill when you're in the shotgun every freaking play. Running plays from the shotgun just take too long to develop. They also tend to be between the tackles. Cohen would be used on pitch outs around the ends on another team.
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Hard to run period, esp when your QB locks in on one receiver and rarely throws the ball down the field.
Bears took turbisky for the measurable, from my viewing of him, he's just playing like a guy who hasnt been on the field that much. 1 year of college doesn't get you close to ready for the NFL.
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And FYI Floyd has 2 sacks this season.
Canton Ohio bound
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Bigger problems than Leonard Floyd on this team - or maybe we should just bench him or cut him all together.
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Look at our first round draft choices starting with 2008-
Chris Williams
Gabe Carimi
Shea McClellin
Kyle Long
Kyle Fuller
Kevin White
Leonard Floyd
Trubisky
Roquan Smith
Nothing in 2019
A list that won't scare any opposing team. Long has been good (no more), Fuller has been playing decent, too early for Smith,
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I sure wouldnt give give him a gazillion dollars next year based on 2 sacks. Hasnt earned squat
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Defense plays lights out for the first 4 games and has a stinker of a game where nobody played well and now folks are getting out their microscopes.
Trevathian didn't have a good game Sunday - maybe we don't re-sign him based on Sunday. And what about Eddie Jackson - he hasn't done too much all season - should we give him a big contract at year end?. Eddie Goldman got steam rolled Sunday - should we replace him too?
You gonna cut Floyd or bench him now? No F'ing way. At the end of season let's evaluate and see what's available and make decisions on performances over the season. But until then quit your F'ing whining.
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Trubisky should have played 1/2 of each exhibition game....nothing beats LIVE football
The funny part is Nagy was worried he would get hurt.
Some of the NFL practices are so soft - all of sudden you throw a raw QB into a game against a good D and they can't keep up.
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Baldy was impressed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbbfTTZXNeg
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You gonna cut Floyd or bench him now? No F'ing way. At the end of season let's evaluate and see what's available and make decisions on performances over the season. But until then quit your F'ing whining.
Benching is assininely stupid. As for whining, you need to look in the mirror. You'll find the whiner there. The Bears definitely need something better there, even a blind person can see that.
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That one ball on Carr should have been grounding.
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The Bears definitely need something better there, even a blind person can see that.
And that's your concern after the Raider game?
OK, let's play. Options available on 10/8/2019 for upgrading OLB opposite Mack.
Aaron Lynch?
#47?
Sign someone off another team's PS.
Trade one of our #2s next year for an edge rusher.
Trade X on our team for an edge rusher.
Are you concerned because after 5 games Floyd only has 2 sacks? Nick Williams has 4 sacks - let's get him into Canton.
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Floyd will always have those couple games that give you hope.
I still say they were jet-lag. I have traveled many times to Europe and several times I get there and i am ok and then sleep for like 20 hours (if I can). It's not fun. 2 days is not enough.
Another mistake by Nagy.....to go along with not playing Trubisky in the pre-season.
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Many teams have traveled Thursday and played well.
It's hard to say.
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Not this one..
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Floyd is the least of our problems.
Our offensive line is sh*t, I am talking like bottom of the league bad. They cannot run or pass block. K. Long needs to retire. Leno needs to be replaced. Whitehair has been playing like he did not deserve the big extension. Massie is less than average.
How could someone even evaluate our running back situation? Literally there has been no holes to run through. I do not even think it is fair to judge the QB play with this line.
We definitely got some other problems but until you fix up front, its really hard to judge the rest. Build the trenches!
If I were a GM in the NFL. I would draft an Oline/Dline every draft.
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If I wasnt such a fan, it would really be comical watching Long and sometimes Leno just standing around not blocking anyone, or pushing a teammate in the back.
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Another thing, if I was Pace I would be scouring PS for 31 teams looking for OL upgrades. Just saying.
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Another thing, if I was Pace I would be scouring PS for 31 teams looking for OL upgrades. Just saying.
Pace can start with his own PS. Alex Bars.
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Bring him in, bring him up, it definitely can't be any worse!!
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The referee issue (lack of competency of said officials) reared its ugly head in the Packers/Lions game last night on the national stage for sure.
Officials need to call what they actually see... not what they THINK they see. Keep the flag in the pocket otherwise.....
The Lions had their chances... I had the feeling when that TE had the ball pop out of his hands in the 1st half that should've been the TD and the Lions had to settle for a FG that it was all she wrote.... but I never would've guessed the refs would be the main culprit.....
Not a good look for the NFL (not that they really seem to care, money making machine that they are) but kind of expected with all the incompetent Al Riverons employed in crucial roles in the organization.....
But Lions will LOLOLIONS tho for sure......
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I think the Pack is going to get all the calls this year, as the refs seem to want them to win. Just like most other years.
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Follow the money
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Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers wasn’t shedding any tears for the Lions after Monday night’s game.
The Lions were victimized by the officials repeatedly — two phantom illegal hands to the face penalties on Detroit’s Trey Flowers, an uncalled pass interference and a flag for a helmet-to-helmet hit on a Lions defensive back who was just diving for the ball — but Rodgers thinks the Packers have had their share of bad calls go against them too.
According to Matt Schneiderman of TheAthletic.com, Rodgers smirked when asked if he thinks the Packers caught breaks with bad officiating.
“I think it equals out pretty good over the years,” Rodgers said.
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Only when they play the Pats
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Peckers for the last 2 decades have gotten most calls their way. O-line holds every play.
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Looks like another limpdick performance by the Bears.
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When Matt Nagy is your head coach, that's what you're going to get more often than not.
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I’d be great to see some competence on offense one of these years.
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Boy did they need that!! Patterson!!!
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Finally something good happens.
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First down. But get up field, stop running east to west.
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Finally getting something going on offense.
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There just isn't anything between the tackles. Need at least a FG here to pull ahead.
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10-9 Bears!
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Need the D to play lights out in this one...
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Pinero sure looks good. Booms ‘em through
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Why can't the Bears ever find a guy like Brees? Would be nice to find a long term quality QB...
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Challenge the spot. That wasn't a first down!
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BULLSHIT!!!!
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That is terrible!
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How do you not move the ball back after looking at the review?
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Just what we need, Saints offense to find a rhythm......
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And Tru to resort to being Tru and overthrowing, again...
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The Bears are terrified of Mitch Trubisky. Absolutely terrified. The play-calling is as though Trubisky is a third-stringer. Says all you need to know about their thoughts on him.
https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1186023294811672576
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NO GOOD!
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Trubisky is so tight he could crack a walnut in his arse.
The defense is not the same.
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Bears special teams suck azz!
The offense sucks azz!
The defense is doing ok considering but damn!
How can they be this terrible after a bye week?
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Can we use the "jet lagged" excuse again?
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I’d put in Daniel. You are getting nothing from Trubisky
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In an offensive era, the Bears look like they're pining for the 1920's.
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The entire offense is awful. No running game to speak of, poor protection, no imagination.
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The offense is a hot mess
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Sad thing is the Saints look like they're ripe for getting beat today but the bears can't take advantage
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Trubisky is playing scared.
If his first read is covered or if he feels any pressure he bails. The offensive line still can't run block but Nagy can't give up on it yet.
Somebody besides Robinson has to get open!!
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This team isnt a superbowl contender. Boy do they need a QB. Looks more like a pee wee league game.
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Sad thing is it isn't just the QB. Where are the TE's? Where is any receiver not named Robinson?
Why can't the line run block?
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The Saints keep running the same run call over and over. Bears can't stop it!
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Game over.
Season over.
Stick a fork in them.
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Yeah...
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Nagy is truly the worst head coach in Bears history. Beyond horrible.
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They're running over nick Williams like he's not even there. They need to sign a big fat run stopper.7
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The best the Bears could do at RB in the draft was Montgomery huh?
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Dodged a bullet there. Not that it matters if the O can't move the ball.
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Nagy needs to get out of Mitchell's head.
Just call the play and make the kid sink or swim
Ml
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Nagy needs to get out of Mitchell's head.
Just call the play and make the kid sink or swim
Ml
That would be true, except the offensive line can't do anything. Until that gets fixed, Mitch has no chance.
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They look like a last place team again.
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I'm usually against mid-season coaching changes, but Nagy needs to be removed ASAP.
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This is just embarrassing.
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You would think they would have some pride after a similar ass beating in London.
But no. The Bears have no pride. They just suck!
This is Wanny/Trestman bad two games in a row. This one after a bye week and at home against a good team but that is missing it's top players.
The Raiders were the same old Raiders against the Packers today and looked like Superbowl champs against this pathetic team.
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Chad Kelly, please...and have him bring an O-line with him...
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Another total failure after a bye. The big question is what are they going to do with Trubisky. He is not the anwswer at this point. In what was supposed to be a year they move up deep in the playoffs, they instead lay a fricking egg and in all likelihood don't get close to the playoffs. They'll be lucky to go 8-8 at this point...
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Bears just got a gift...there was no holding on that TD...
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Playoffs!...Playoffs?....Are you kidding me are we talking about playoffs?!!
Not a chance.
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Why are you throwing it away on 4th down?
SMH!
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They can't even move the ball in garbage time.
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I guess Dick Jauron was the coach of the year for 2001.
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Well, once again, here we are looking at the QB position. Kelly, Bar, the fricking waterboy...something, someone with a pulse. This is embarrassing...
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Until Nagy is gone, it really doesn't matter what you do with the QB position.
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This season is now over. So sad, put me down for getting rid of Trubisky, injury or not. Roquan Smith, where was he today? And Leonard Floyd??? MIA. I am just sick about the entire performance. How was our O performance??? Um, yeah, cant go anywhere with that. Trade for Eli Manning, cause Trubisky aint doing squat. And if anyone can get Anthony Millers head on strait that would be a good start. And it doesnt help that the fudge packers are in first, I just hate that. I dont even want to watch any more football, which is what I wait for all year. Heart broken, thanks Bears, but at least I am used to it.
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No Oline.
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The vaunted defense isn't looking too great either. Weak pass rush can't stop the run no turnovers
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To me, the defense gets a pass with Hicks out. He's a huge difference maker both in stopping the run and in getting pressure up the middle so that the outside rushers can attack.
Pagano >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bozo The Clown>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A piece of ****>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nagy
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In their defense the TOP was 2-1 at the end of the 3rd quarter.
The D are not world beaters but they are good enough to win a championship with an NFL average offense.
Sadly our offense will be dead last in the NFL after this week.
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My guy Trey Burton is a pusssy and totally worthless. And Tarik Cohen, trade him for whatever you can get for him, as he does nothing of value. The only guy on O we should keep is Allen Robinson. How many carries did Montgomery get??? Yeah I thought so.
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It pisses me off that Teddy small hands Bridgewater disected us, but I could see every single wide open pass happening before it happened. Not sure if that was on Pagano or Payton.
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Yes, Trey Burton is worthless. I prefer Shaheen.
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And two games in a row we had next to zero, or zero pressure on QB. WTF????
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Shaheen is just as worthless, sorry. If we are going to rely heavily on the TE, lets get someone we can rely on
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So...offseason targets are a new QB, help on the Oline and a new TE....at least...
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Teddy "small hands" Bridgewater, that's accurate, under troubled waters and all that, I lost a lot of money, lost it like a fool, lost it like a stupid fool.
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Bears ran a total of 7 times for 17 yards. Nagy really is an idiot.
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To put just how bad Nagy is into perspective, he's worse than Texans coach Bill O'Brien.
That is a wild scene, man.
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That was a total cluster fukk!! Offense is a disaster with the Defense not far behind. If Trubisky tries to complete a pass over 5 or 6 yards it's overthrown. The bears look like they have gone backwards.. I really thought they were going to win today, heck I thought they were contenders for the division this year.. What a fukking joke!! They'll end up in no mans land.. Shitty record picking in the middle of the pack,, Or do we even have first round draft pick? I can't get over how bad they look.. At what point does Pace start taking heat for the Trubisky pick?
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Until you deal with Nagy, you cannot fairly judge Trubisky.
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Nagy is the return of trestman. You can't tell me that D was putting max effort out there today. I think he's lost the team and we just saw the first signs of it in the last two games.
I saw a few players completely dogging it. Robinson not blocking on other receivers catches. Jackson jogging around out there. Neither Nagy or Trubisky trust each other. Refusing to even attempt to run the ball is a guaranteed loss every week.
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It's all about dancing, partying, 'Club Dub' nonsense. He's got a loose culture and it shows. Seen any fire? How about players playing like they've been talked to and are feeling the heat? No, it's the same stupid crap week after week. This team isn't improving at all, it's regressing. It is all about culture and the culture under Nagy is it's easy going here. Maybe a few chairs need thrown through walls instead!! >:(
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And maybe it's time for the defense to light a fire under the offense and call them out on their play!! Have some fricking accountability!
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I’m sure it’s hard to give your 110% on defense when they can so clearly see that having Mitch makes it impossible to win.
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Instead of 'Club Dub' how bout 'Club Accountability'.....
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Fire Nagy, then you can start to address all of the other bullshit.
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Trubisky is missing open guys, not throwing to the open guys and overthrowing anybody deep. I don’t think that is Nagy. The online is bad and the playcaling is suspect at times but Trubisky is not playing well.
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Any sports coach or manager is supposed to put their players in the best position to succeed. Nagy, being the horrible coach that he is, is not doing that.
Mitch is very inexperienced. There are a few things that he does well right now and a lot that he doesn't. Why does C u n t B o y call plays that Mitch is not good at?
The fact is that most of the great QBs in the NFL have been doing this for a long, long time.
Nagy sucks and must go.
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54 passes to 7 rushes. Nagys playcalling is horrible. If the other team knows you are scared to run the ball they are going to be in the QBs face the whole game. You can't win that way. This loss and the horrible offense is 100% on nagy. The guy is clueless.
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The piece of **** that they brought in from Notre Dame has taken a solid average offensive line and **** it up beyond belief.
On the other hand, even if the O-line was playing well, NagyCunt would still not run the ball.
Fire Nagy.
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Over/under on Bears 2019 wins: 6
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I agree with the blow back on Pace. I have firmly supported Pace since he started, but I think we are starting to see his team emerge.
Obviously the QB draft situation. Moving up to take Trubusky, when you could have held tight and had at least two of the three Trubusky, Mahommes and Watson to choose from.
I always felt that John Fox was forced on him. However when we took Nagy after KC losses playoff game and most experts said he called a pretty bad game as OC it was a head scratcher.
Losing Vic F. is looking more and more like it was a bigger deal than most realized.
Also iron sharpens iron. Our OL is so bad, I think it left our coaches with the impression that the DL was more stout than it is....when you practice every day against a weak opponent....you become weak.
If I were ownership, I would tell Pace he better send the message that if the ship does not get corrected heads are going to roll, starting with his.
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I agree with Paces head rolling. He not only was in charge of the "trade up" to get Mitch, he was also in charge of hiring Nagy. This team was pathetic yesterday..
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It is definitely time to start looking Paces way. His picks are not panning out.
2015 Draft
1 – Kevin White, WR, West Virginia BUST, gone
2 – Eddie Goldman, DL, Florida State
3 – Hroniss Grasu, OL, Oregon BUST gone
4 – Jeremy Langford, RB, Michigan State BUST gone
5 – Adrian Amos, S, Penn State With GB
Tayo Fabuluje, OL, TCU Gone
1 player stuck and making a impact
2016 Draft
1 – Leonard Floyd, EDGE, Georgia With team but not playing well
2 – Cody Whitehair, OL, Kansas State With team, avg player
3 – Jonathan Bullard, DL, Florida BUST gone
4 – Nick Kwiatkoski, LB, West Virginia Still with team
4 – Deon Bush, S, Miami With team as backup
4 – Deiondre’ Hall, CB, Northern Iowa BUST now with Eagles
5 – Jordan Howard, RB, Indiana Gone, with Eagles
6 -DeAndre Houston-Carson, S William & Mary, Backup
7 – Daniel Braverman, WR, Western Michigan Gone who knows where...
One of his better drafts with players going elsewhere...
2017 Draft
1 – Mitchell Trubisky, QB, North Carolina BUST not playing worth crap!
2 – Adam Shaheen, TE, Ashland Wasted 'project pick'
4 – Eddie Jackson, S, Alabama Impact player
4 – Tarik Cohen, RB, North Carolina A&T Talented underperforming player
5 – Jordan Morgan, OL, Kutztown
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The score was 12-10 starting the 3rd quarter. The defense allowed the Saints to move down the field in methodical fashion and then Ginn catches the long one. The defense looks completely different without Hicks on the field and no one is making the impact. I understand the offense is a mess, but a great defense should be able to lock down a team with a back-up QB and one main option at receiver. Lack of pressure and lack of turnovers being created.
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I agree with Griz, the D is just as much to blame, they gave up 36 pts yesterday. Ok, Hicks is a big part of the line, but still where was Fuller or Eddie Jackson or Dix or Roquan making plays? Um, they werent. How many turn overs? They are dogging it on D. Not sure if that is on Pagano or what. How many times was Bridgewater hit/rushed/sacked yesterday? And I hate to say it, but Mack had a second quiet game in a row. Maybe he is hurt, who knows.
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Oh and dont forget the Saints were without Kamara, Brees and Cook.
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Well, that was not totally suprising considering the vibes since the Raiders game.....
Team was on a knife edge of either getting back its mojo or falling off a cliff. Looks like the cliff won....
I knew they were in trouble when Nagy had Cohen run up the middle on the 1st offensive play of the game. And Nagy says he self-scouted over the bye. Now that's a double load horseshit for sure......
Historical note: Only the Bears could trade UP to get the worst of the QBs that (at least 2 of the 3) would've been there with their next pick regardless...
Seen enough of Miller and Cohen. Think where they would be offensively without Robinson (They would be the 1st team to offensive rank 33rd in a 32 team league ;D)
Bears have a motivational coach not a Head coach leading this team. Not sure he can get it turned around. Bad vibes coming out of Halas Hall.....
They will win a few more games this season but in the end will fail.... like 31 other teams to not win the SB :D
Each season is a story and as usual, the Bears season is a tragic-comic drama....
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Yesterday was a train wreck. Like Humpty Dumpty who had a great fall, my big question is can all the pieces be put back together again?
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Only 7 rushes???? always = LOSS
We have no run game. We have like 3rd string runningbacks......it's horrific. If Montgomery were on another team he would have been cut. Mike Davis is horrible and Cohn is smurf wide receiver.
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Not much to add. I was fearful that the Saint' offensive line could be the difference in the game, even with Brees and Kamara out. I know we're down on the D but offense had so many 3 and outs, they get tired and disillusioned.
The plays that really killed us on defense were the Bridgewater scrambles where he just barely picked up 1st downs.
Our defensive backfield is somewhat overrated. They look good with a solid pass rush but when left on their own they get exposed. Has Eddie Jackson made a play this year?
Offensively, the run/pass ratio is out of whack. Nagy gave up on it way too early, probably after the Montgomery fumble (which they didn't score on after the missed field goal).
Here's some receiving stats: Taylor Gabriel 1 for 6 Trey Burton 2 for 11 Tarik Cohen 9 for 19
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I think Eddie Jackson read that he is some all pro S, and it has gone to his head. Dude, put it on the field, not in some article.
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Yep - that long pass to Ginn never should have happened. Broke the game.
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I remember on 2nd and 2 thinking, line up heavy and either pound it here(and 3rd down) or do a PA to loosen things up and they didn’t convert.
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What about, I think it was 3rd and 2, empty fukking backfield.. We can't run for 2 yards? WTF?
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Nagy is absolute garbage. Get rid of him! I know it's hard to admit a mistake, but come the **** on!
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I'm going out on a limb here ....Bears over Chargers, 17-13.
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This is a make or break game.. Lose and the season is pretty much over, win and the team can at least act like things are better.. Unless Rogers gets hurt there is no way of catching the pack (unless they just fall apart, don't count on it). The Bears are playing for a wild card.
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I see Bradshaw picked the Chargers.. Not that Bradshaw is anyone special, but wow.. I really feel that the bears should win this..
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You would think the Bears should take this game handily, but rational thought says I see no reason why the Bears suddenly 'get it' with the blocking, passing, run game. They easily could lose this game.
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Out of the I we get 10 yards on the ground, out of the shotgun about 2 a carry ever since.
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No holes for the run game at all.
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Same inept crap. Can't run block, stupid idiotic play calls.
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There we go. That was what we have been missing those intermediate throws.
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A delay run with a line that cannot run block....doh....
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And he misses.
****!
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Of course now we got a doink, so now the kicker goes south ::)
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If they can't beat the Chargers then it's looking like a 5-win team.
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INT!
Let's get 7 here.
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WHY the H are they using a wideout at RB??? I just don't get that....
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They may not have scored a touchdown, but at least they got a choreographed dance in.
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Just awful, pathetic offense. Trubisky just ain't seeing the field.....again...
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They're going to have to get a QB if they want to compete this year. He isn't cutting it. He keeps throwing into tight coverage and has almost had a couple ints already.
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It is more then just Trubisky although he doesn't see the field well.
The line sucks. the WR's aren't getting separation.
The play calling isn't all that either.
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Nice run! Where is the flag for 15 more?
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There we go!
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I absolutely hate these sideline routes. Get the ball downfield!!! Quit throwing across the dang field!
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BOOOOOO!!!! >:(
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Got to score TD's. Rivers is going to get going at some point. Field goals will not cut it.
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Trubiskys confidence is gone and the staffs confidence in him is gone. We're going to see more of this until he is replaced...
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This is pathetic!!
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And here we go....just like you said Peke.... >:(
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And just like that we are losing.
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Yep, so much for the lead..
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Montgomery!
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That is how you run block!
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Wouldn't surprise me if this is where Tru throws a int....
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Got a break with the flag. First down!
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Ya gotta be kidding me....THROWING the friggin ball with him?!? RUN it!!!!
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! What a fricking CLOWN car!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Keystone Kops Bullshit right there!
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They just scraped out a new bottom
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This teams in real serious trouble here. They don't have a clue what they're doing on offense. Forget the playoffs, ain't happenin'. It'll be a wonder if they finish near 500!
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This is Dick Jauron bad!!
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The Stone Age called--they want their offense back.
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Roquan Smith on that one 10 yard catch actually tackled the guy with the ball for the first down, and on the TD he did the same thing. Um, dude try and drive the guy with the ball BACKWARDS!!!
As far as the O, sad, really sad. Nagy is trying to get too cute, and frankly he is a moron. Try and do the simple stuff, and do it correctly. Glad to see Montgomery at least get some runs, he is all that is working. 3 possessions inside the 10 two inside the 5 and we cant score a TD? And that clown car last play, they are lucky they even got the FG off. This is pathetic. If we lose today, the entire season is over.
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Without a doubt, Matt Nagy is the worst head coach in Chicago Bears history.
Is he the worst head coach in NFL history?
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TD BEARS!!!
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Line up in the I formation and run it down their throat.
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Nagy is a slow learner but he finally learned to run the damn ball.
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They finally figured out Montgomery is on the team ::)
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So now the D is going to fall apart.
Here is a clue he is going to Henry. You might want to cover him.
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Where is the pass rush? Rivers has all day.
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Rivers is a statue and they can't touch him
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And Trubisky throws an interception.
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WTH?
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Why weren't we doing what we did on the first drive until they could prove they could stop it? Line up and play smash mouth football.
But no back to the shotgun.
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Thankfully the Chargers are more inept than the Bears.....might just get a win.... ::)
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Catching a LOT of breaks.
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Bears getting every break imaginable today and still haven't put the game away.
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We really dodged a bullet there. they should of had 7 and they come away with nothing.
Now Nagy I formation heavy package and run the damn ball.
Then PA Pass off of it. They had no answer for that. Until they prove they do keep doing it.
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Over throws a wide open receiver.
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And Trubisky just drops it and loses the ball.
Both these teams suck ass!
This season is over win or lose. But they are going to lose.
WTF?
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Starting to think Mitch is a double agent.
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Really bad!!
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He ran backwards why give him forward progress?
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And Bears still going to lose this toilet bowl.... ::)
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They are going to run Trubisky out of town if they lose.
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Losers!
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Bears will be last place after this loss.
Pissed this one away along with the season.
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Massie has had a tough day dealing with Bosa.
Wearing cement shoes hasn’t helped...
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Would love to know how they went from a solid playoff team to this. >:(
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Would love to know how they went from a solid playoff team to this. >:(
Nagy.
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Not sure I agree with this.
He has already missed one.
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I don't agree with it. Think they should have gotten closer, but their confidence in Tru is pretty much gone
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What a fitting ending.... >:(
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Nagy is retarded.
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Even if they had won it would have felt like a loss.
This team is done stick a fork in them.
Time to go do yardwork. It will be more fun then watching this game was.
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I'm not nearly as frustrated with a bad Bears team doing this but this was a GOOD team that went 12-4 last season and now? 4-12?? They sure as hell are playing like it! Should this put Nagy on a very hot seat?? I sure think so and Pace as well! >:(
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Just don’t waste a pick on trading for another QB...it won’t make any difference...
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Well that was the season right there. They were in such a hole behind the Fudge Pack and Vikes, just forget about it. I am numb and dont really care right now. Turdbisky can catch the next box car out of town. INT and FUMBLE in the 4th, seriously? And why did genius Nagy go away from the run, that worked SOOOOO well to start the 3rd??? He can go too. I guess there is always the draft and next year. Now I know how it feels to be a Cubs fan.
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Oh, and who on that last SD TD covered the WR and dragged him into the endzone? Yep Roquan. Cant wait to see the tape never lies on this game. Massie, you can hitch a ride with Mitch and Nagy.
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Pretty low bar to suggest the run worked today. On the 37 carries outside of Montgomery's 55-yard burst, the Bears averaged 2.9 per attempt.
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Season is over.. WTF? I really thought we would contend for the division.. This is terrible! Why when there is urgency Mitch seems to play better, start of the game he looks confused.. Unreal..
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Pace should be trying to trade players for draft picks. Tarik Cohen please, along with Leonard Floyd, Trey Burton, maybe Nagy and Mitch. Seriously I would start dumping people if I was Pace, try and get some extra draft picks, cause we are going to need all the help we can get. Just suucks that we now have nothing to play for and our franchise qb is a piece of shiit. That overthow of Gabriel that should have been a td, come on man, no excuse. Turdbisky needs to go, asap.
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The Bears ran 35 more plays, had 15 more first downs, possessed the ball 16 more minutes, and still lost.
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We had a sliver of a chance at the second wild card spot before today. Now we are doomed to a crappy draft pick in the middle, no first round pick. The only thing we MIGHT have going for us is to play spoiler to GB or MN in our second games. I hate playing spoiler.
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Forgot the Bears don't have a first-round pick again. So all the losing will be for nothing.
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They have 2 second rounders.
The mocks so far have Jake Fromm there for us.
He seems to have the qualities Mitch lacks.
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Good teams find ways of winning,bad teams find ways of losing.
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My thoughts on the game:
Coward was bad. Multiple penalties and missed assignments. I hope Larsen is healthy or Bars is ready.
Mitch looked like an NFL quality quarterback. Not a good one, but he was adequate. He can't throw the deep ball, he'll never be a decent starter until he can. His decision making was better and he didn't look like he was playing scared. My fear is that now that the high expectations are gone he'll play just well enough to convince Pace and Nagy that they should give him another year.
Massie got beat when it counted. They need to start looking for his and Leno's replacement next year.
Coverage wasn't good. Pass rush wasn't good. Chargers recievers helped the bears out with some timely drops.
Bears might get a 4th round pick by cutting Davis. Time to make that move.
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yes, if we save a draft pick cut Davis.
Bears got 1 sack today. Pass rush has evaporated.
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looking at the highlights I noticed one play - a handoff to Cohan where he was hit almost before he got the ball. Reviewing the play it looked like Whitehair didn't know what the play was & Leno just decided to take the play off. Really weird.
Thought the biggest play was the Trubisky fumble, looked like he just dropped the ball without being hit.
Not having a TE hurts. Not having a fullback hurts the short yardage plays.
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I really think Pace should be on the hot seat.
He has had what 5 years now? Last year it looked like he had us on the right track. However this season has been bad, really really bad. Its his hand picked coaching staff and his draft picks. If he just stays the course for the rest of the season and into next season and we stink next year early on. Ownership better fire the whole darn crew.
I really hate changing GM's because it really does signal a true start over. So IMO Pace has some tough work to do fast. He needs to figure out what is so wrong and how to fix it. If that means firing the whole coaching staff, I think that he should do it. Problem is you better have someone great that you can recruit.
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I know a QB on Indy’s practice squad that can make those long throws...
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I see we are now 3-4. Couldnt watch today. New system and not knowing where certain channels were
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The Bears ran 35 more plays, had 15 more first downs, possessed the ball 16 more minutes, and still lost.
That's pathetic!!
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Wanny bad!
It is like they are finding new ways to lose.
The Chargers are not a good team.
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I'm so tired of my football team sucking as$! Year after year... When was the last time this team had a real QB? One that you could count on season after season. I don't think we've had one in my lifetime..
What the fukk has happened to Cohen?
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Cohen thinks he can run sideways and get by everybody which works in college but not so often in the NFL.
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Chifan is exactly right.We have never enjoyed having a true franchise QB in our lifetimes. I started following the Bears in 1966. That is pathetic. Let's hire a true QB evaluator as a GM. We could have had Mahommes,instead we trade multiple draft picks to draft a guy who only started one year at the college level. And the tape was not all that inspiring.
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What should actually happen - but, for obvious reasons never will - is that the Chicago Bears franchise should be contracted.
It is simply not a viable enterprise.
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Watching the Chiefs/Packers game. We supposedly run the same offense as the Chiefs.
I have seen some amazing designed plays from the Matt Moore led Chiefs. Where did that creativity go from the Bears offense?
If it is because our players aren't executing then why not? Why haven't they been coached up to execute? I am as upset as everyone else but I am not ready to fire Nagy, Pace and dump Trubisky and start all over again.
Might as well try and get **** fixed this season so we are ready to roll next season. How do they do that though?
Where are the designed roll outs we had last year? It buys time and let's the defense expand which allows the dump offs to go for big yards. Right now the dump offs aren't getting anything. another option is having the tackle line up wide this tends to make the DE go inside. When he does Trubisky would have time to move to his right with lot's of time. The Pckers do this all the time with Rodgers especially when he needs to go deep.
I think we need Trubisky under center a lot more. I am not saying no shotguns but let's get it closer to 50% of the time. Like keeping the run/pass ratio near 50% I believe under center and in shotgun should be the same. It gives the defense more to prepare for and worry about.
I don't want Patterson lined up as a RB. If you want him to run the ball do it from the WR position. He should only be lined up at RB if we have lost two RB's and need the help.
Add a few plays a game the defense hasn't seen to keep them honest. I feel like the offense is way to predictable right now.
Coach our players to get up the field. I hate that our offensive players seem to always either have to go down to the ground to get the ball or jump for it. We rarely see them catch it in stride and when we do they run east and west instead of north/south.
Slant, slants and more slants. It is a staple play because it is a high percentage successful play.
Anyone else have any thoughts besides fire everyone? :)
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Matt Nagy has no business on a NFL sideline. He is altogether incompetent. He MUST be fired immediately.
Ryan Pace has shown the ability to identify and acquire talent. He should stay.
Mitchell Trubisky is an extremely talented and extremely inexperienced quarterback. He should stay and be developed with a legitimate NFL head coach and a quality offensive line.
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2017 Draft Bears 2nd round 45th pick - Adam Shaheen from some unknown college.
2017 Draft 5th round 146th pick - George Kittle from Iowa.
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This is almost the season we should have had last season. Quarterback taking his lumps, Nagy making a bonehead decision that costs the game. Last season went too smooth. For all his flaws, Trubisky led the team down the field again to put the team in place for the win, and kicker shanks it. Overall, this was a much better balance though as Pekin points out, many of our plays were easily diagnosed.
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Just completely disgusted with this team, beyond disgusted. From 12-4 to this mess >:( That being said....
Where are the designed roll outs we had last year?
Exactly what I was saying. They keep going into shotgun and it's not helping Mitch. He needs to roll out where his mobility can be used.
They need to ditch the ignorant receiver in the backfield garbage, it ain't working.
Trubisky is turning into Grossman. Too many turnovers, and stupid ones. He also is not seeing the open receivers well. And they are getting open.
Nagy's terrible play calling hurts the team. Stop with the sideline routes already! Push the ball downfield! And on the friggin goalline, get UNDER the center with a RB in the backfield and that allows the RB to get some steam. Shotgun is ridiculous here, especially with a empty backfield. Just baffling goal line nonsense. On one attempt, two recievers didn't run a route, one did. That leaves two options, one reciever running one route...and Trubisky, running it. Stupid play calls result in losses.
Letting the clock run out is Trestman part two. Or Wanny 'line up for the FG' crap. Dumb and dumber ****.....
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And not to pile on, but Trubisky has been throwing down low, almost into the dirt. Hit the WR in stride so he can get some YAC.
And sorry to say but Mack was kind of absent yesterday again. I think he has checked out mentally, and isnt buying into the program any more.
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And yet all these guys make a lot of money to do this - I would start docking their pay
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To unfortunately quote Porky Pig "thats a a a a all Folks".....
We can **** on the D but they gave up only enough points that with a competent NFLoffense would have made this a Bears win. (you hold a team under 20 points in a league where the average per game score is generally over that)....
Enough Cohen side to side. Enough with Patterson at RB (and why the **** is he always running out of the endzone on kickoffs ? This Offense is so putrid that 5 yard difference between the 20 and 25 is magnified)......
Fire Helfrich, Tabor, Heistand and move on. Especially the Hiestand. The Oline is a joke and only keeps getting worse. He was supposed to be a good Oline coach. WTH happened to him ?
Ditch the RPO. Trubisky is too stupid (or slow mentally) to run it. The Oline is too incompetent to block for it. Run max protect every play and run/pass from it. Results couldn't be much worse....
Dump useless players (Shaheen, Davis) and try someone (anyone) from the practice squad. Hell, one of those electronic remote dummies they use for practice would be better than either of those 2 stiffs.
Two questions I'd have liked to as Nagy after the game:
"Was it an option to run up the middle with no timeouts just before the end of the 1st half ? And if so WHY was it even an option ?"
"Why with a TO in your pocket do you take a knee at the end of the game for the FG attempt when you can instead run that stupid play you ran at the end of the 1st half and at least gain 1/2 yard ?"
Oh and check the drinking water coming into Halas Hall for heavy metals........
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Heistand def has to go. This line is simply terrible and it ain't improving. And I agree on the other firings as well. There has to be accountability with a mess like this.
Also agree with the RPO. Yesterday was exhibit one on that having to go. Almost had a turnover attempting it on one go.
Cohen has been a mess as well. How many times is this kid going to catch a kicked ball inside the 10yrd line? He didn't do it yesterday but has all season long. And his sideline to sideline runs instead of north/south show a lack of coaching and accountability. Try that with Belichick and your butt would be riding the pine for a week or more.
I'm just going to keep agreeing with you on Shaheen and Davis, both of whom are worthless. Shaheen was a terrible waste of a pick from the get go. You NEVER get a 'project' with a 2nd round pick! This is where you get someone who can immediately help the team. Another blown pick from Pace.
And Nagys play calling is most definitely suspect.
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Unfortunately there's still half a season of despair and disappointment to go......
It seems for the last few years that when the Bears lose all the other teams in the Division get wins. There is a curse on this franchise. Bad mojo. Bad voodoo.....
To take a look at where this franchise has gone since winning SB 20, all you have to do is look at the goddamn Patriots. It may be blasphemy but If we could go back in time and take a blow out loss for the sustained success they've had since then (some ups and downs but more ups that us) I'd take that in a skinny minute....
But I'll watch this train wreck as it augers into the ground after falling off the bridge....
I must be a masochist :D
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I understand why Nagy let the clock run at the end of the game rather than trying to get a few more yards. This was a 43 yarder, obviously not a gimme. Why not (as someone already mentioned) run the same stupid play you ran at the end of the first half, or anything, never know, maybe get another 5 yards. Of course, Pineiro missed a 32 yarder earlier.. Fukking train wreck... Meanwhile, Packers are 7-1.. Fukk!!!!
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Wasn’t Heistand our Oline coach a few years ago when our line was pretty good? Seems like he took Olin Kreutz, John Tait and a bunch of nobodies and that team ended up in the Super Bowl. Wasn’t our oline pretty good last year? Something like 2 pro bowlers? The first time we had two pro bowl oline members since.....2006 when he was here last time.
I cannot understand how you take an offense that should be better than it was a year ago and stink this bad. Heistand swapped 2 guys to their more natural positions and Long is on IR like he has been like the past 4 seasons.
Maybe Daniels just can’t pick up the reads or something like Whitehair could, I dunno but they shouldn’t be this bad.
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Maybe they should put Whitehair back at center. I'd give it a shot, heck, at this point. Right now that line is a dumpster fire with no direction or evidently blocking skills or assignments. They ran blocked better yesterday but they could not get the ball in on a poor run defense team at the goal line. Inexcusable.
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Cohen has been a mess as well. How many times is this kid going to catch a kicked ball inside the 10yrd line? He didn't do it yesterday but has all season long.
Yes he did. He caught one at the 2 yard line and ran it back to the 30 or something like that. That is probably why you don't remember. Patterson keeps running kickoffs out of the endzone as well.
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Here it was...
Punt
(12:42) (Punt formation) T.Long punts 54 yards to CHI 2, Center-C.Mazza. T.Cohen to CHI 26 for 24 yards (B.Facyson).
4th & 3 at LAC 44
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watched parts, simply a chamber of horrors. The bear is off the rails and ain't getting back.
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I think the thing that hurts this time around is there is no benefit to losing. They don't have a first round pick, so losing helps nothing. So not only are they losing but there's no benefit to it. What a mess this team is....
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This team is not bereft of talent, unlike former Bear's teams. The defense is missing Hicks, perhaps the scheme is just a bit passive or at a minimum, I don't see Eddie Jackson on the screen because he is 20 yards off the line of scrimmage. The offensive mess starts with Nagy, and his stubbornness to play his brand of football and not taking the pieces he has and making those work. Mitch is flawed, but as he showed this past Sunday, he can make the throws. All QB's miss throws, and the long ball was critical, but watch any game and you will see QBs missing throws. Mitch shows flashes. It is Nagy's job to turn that into consistency and throw out the library.
Now is the time to grind. Go 1-0. Then try to go 1=0 again. I am not saying a miracle is in this team, but this isn't like watching the hapless teams of Trestman before we took the field.
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Grizz,
I agree. This team can win where others just couldn't. They just have to start doing it.
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That's just the thing, though....how does this get turned around?? It isn't a dearth of talent, it's....I don't know what's causing this honestly. Attitude or lack of? Laziness? What causes a offensive line to suddenly look like the keystone kops, blocking themselves instead of the opponent?? How does Trubisky end up playing worse and not improving?? Why does Nagy call stupid play calls at the worst times?? It just seems like they're going through the motions out there. It's baffling. We're supposed to have a offensive line mastermind in Heistand. Where is he and why isn't his line playing right?? I just don't get this.... One thing I would try, though, is putting the line back to where it was last season, with Whitehair under center. Maybe the center is calling the wrong scheme. Somethings gotta change here...
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I really think that this falls on Nagy. His play calling stinks. Look at that third quarter TD drive. 9 out of 13 plays run from the I formation. TD. Did you see all 5 OL surround Nagy after the TD and tell him to keep it up? Then what did he do? No I formation, and run from shotgun. Dude, try not to get cute, dont try and force the players to do what they dont do well. They get pisssed off, and stop trying, and when the O is ineffective, the D senses it and they stop trying. Look at Macks production the last 3 games. And Eddie Jackson who has been invisible. Just call the plays the players can execute, and dont get all cutesy with Santas Sleigh and all that other craap.
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I would like to see an experienced NFL offensive coordinator.
Helfrich has no experience and maybe that's one reason he was hired.....a college innovative guy who can't challenge the inexperienced Nagy. Defenses are all over this offense and they don't know how to counter that
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San Diego couldn't stop the run. Nagy's play calling at the end horrific.
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And running the ball, builds the offensive line's confidence. The majority of the blame falls at Nagy's feet, and he needs to self scout and improve.
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What does the play calling tell you regarding the confidence level the coaching staff has in it's players..
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Agreed, but I think it says more to me that Nagy has it in his mind of how it should work. He may go to his coaching grave if he doesn't figure it out and coach this team to win and do what they do best. You don't take the ingredients to make a chocolate cake and use them to prepare a western omelet. The I formation was working. Your line loves it, and your qb looks more comfortable. You score a td and then you go away from it. You try to make a western omelet.
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I think Nagy gets stuck on wanting to be an offensive genius instead of wanting to be a winning coach. Winning coaches are the ones with legacy.
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So, Nagy doesn’t want to be a higher paid Head Coach?
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Not that he deserves it, or until he does.
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Yeah but the Bears arent going to finish 9-0:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2019/10/30/bears-three-causes-for-optimism-2019/
3. There are still 9 games remaining The odds of that are about a trillion to one.
That will be blown Sunday. I'd be shocked if it didnt
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Actually I think they will play hard but commit too many stupid mistakes (both players and coaches) to win the game. The Bears are in a perfect super-shitstorm of incompetent coaching and under-acheiving players at the moment. Its only a matter of time before the levy breaks *cue Led Zepplin*.....
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I will be watching Trey Burton closely. The last time we played his former team, he refused to play, and has not really lived up to anything since.
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Guess who is on the injury report with a groin injury? Yep, my guy Trey Burton. Did I not call that? Total mental basket case piece of shiit.
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Guess who is on the injury report with a groin injury? Yep, my guy Trey Burton. Did I not call that? Total mental basket case piece of shiit.
He's had a pulled groin for weeks nothing new.
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Philly 31
Bears 13
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I’m expecting the wheels to come off today...
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The 2nd down play had no chance. Then a terrible throw on Third down.
Yet another three and out...
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Not sure about that PI call.
Of course Howard is going to have a big game.
This is going to get ugly quick.
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That wasn't a natural pick. That was an illegal pick that wasn't called.
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How does this offense just keep getting worse and worse?
Another three and out.
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It’s just ugly
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Has Trubisky been released yet?
Dumping off again?
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The refereeing is just terrible this year. That was not pass interference on Fuller.
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Trubisky is afraid to throw downfield. He is a headcase.
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Bears got out-gained 122 to -1 in the 1st. They had the ball for less than 3 minutes, committed three penalties, and had zero first downs.
And the worst part is the Bears will get no reward in the draft for being this awful.
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Last comment - Roquan Smith looks terrible again
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Bears have been offsides what 5 times already? Geez!
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Undisciplined lack of focus and passion. A qb lost and regressing. I'm quickly losing faith in Nagy.
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This is the most poorly coached football team I've ever seen.
I wouldn't hire Nagy to coach a high school team.
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This is putrid!
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Trubisky refuses to throw down field.
Get Trubuisky out of there. At least Daniels will open it up
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It’s like Nagy’s play call is going into both huddles
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Stop jumping offsides DUMBFUCKS!!!!
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Trubisky needs pulled immediately. This guy absolutely sucks! Packers fired their coach midseason, Nagy is getting dang close the way this team is playing. Horrific
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Agreed....just HORRIFIC coaching. Some of this stuff should have been fixed in pre-season.
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Turbiskey looks like a player that has lost all confidence in himself. Its time to bench him for a bit for his own good.
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Are you shitting me? He flopped but you have to be smarter then that. The ball was long gone!
This is a huge stinking pile of ****!
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WTF? It was hands to the face and a push off. How do you pick that flag up?
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Ertz pushed off AND hands to the face....just terrible calls.
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The Bears suck but to pick up that flag is just piling on.
Come on!
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That was a penalty on Ertz pushing the defender in the face.
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It shouldn’t have come to that...the play clock had run out on the 4th down play where the roughing the passer was called...should have been offsetting penalties at worst...
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Couldn’t we have challenged the non-OPI call?
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A loss like this will demand changes but will this f'ing stupid team do anything about this?? And yeah I said F. What I'm thinking about this team right now is worse. Not happy with this in the least.😡😡😡
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EIGHT penalties so far. HORRIFIC. That lackadaisical pre-season has been showing.
We have seen this before in Trestman.
Another dump off.
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Has any team failed to get a 1st down in game?
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They can not do anything right? He has time and Trubisky delivers the ball for what should of been a first down and Robinson steps out of bounds. WTF?
Everyone taking turns **** up! The penalties, the time of possession. Not a single first down by the offense.
This is a DUMPSTER FIRE!!!
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WHY wouldn't you challenge that catch?? Nagy is quickly becoming an IDIOT.
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It wasn't even close to a catch.
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Put me solidly in the fire Nagy camp. This is his mess that isn't getting fixed but it's getting worse and it's more than just Tru.
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Has any team failed to get a 1st down in game?
Yes, but it hasn't happened since 1966.
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The bad thing about this. The Bears have a track record of hanging on to coaches too long. I bet we have to witness this garbage again next season..
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Does Nagy understand Trubisky is not a pocket passer
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1st downs!
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Anyone explain why this QB is still in??? Anyone???
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That was offensive pass interference.
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Ok the roughing the passer call was BS, and no OPI on Ertz TD was worse. He had his hand of FUllers facemask AND pushed off. I thought we were playing the fudge Pack for a minute, as the refs seem to want the Eagles to win. No not want, DO want them to win. Trubisky sucks hard, but the OL is just horrific, and Nagy the brilliant mind, is just as bad. Oh and the overthrow pass to Cohen? Yeah the shortest guy on the team. And can we cut Cohen, as I am done with his bs, all around. This is going to be a loss, and the team has quit on Nagy and his rah rah bs, and frankly Pagano has lost the D.
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Can we bring Fox back? LOL!
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This isn't funny in the least. I'm pissed!! >:( Not watching any more of this ****.....
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Eddie Jackson let's Howard go right by him after he makes the late hit.
Trestman Jr has lost the team. All the penalties and the lack of effort is players giving up on him. Pace and Trestman Jr are probably going to stink it up again next year before we can be rid of these clowns.
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Defense goes to **** and then the offense wakes up. Figures...
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Why is Cohen in there running up the middle again?
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Montgomery for the TD.
Now let's see if the D can pull their **** together now.
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Cohen as the single back on the goal line? C'mon man. So stupid.
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They are misusing guys. Cohen, at this point use the guy for trade bait. He's doing absolutely jack for the team. Get a high pick next year for him or something...a 2...whatever.
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You are right Cohen is being misused. He is a valuable player if used right. Line him and Montgomery up together in the backfield. Then you can run inside or outside or send him out for a pass.
You can run Cohen up the middle just not in short yardage situations. Even then only do it enough to keep the defense honest like once a game or on a draw.
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If you bring pressure up the middle the bears will always go to sideline routes. They are so predictable, can't have success this way.
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Trubisky rolls out....good things. Hey Nagy - wake up Mitch is NOT a pocket passer.
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We need to run slant routes.
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Slant routes are easy cheap yardage and the defense has to account for them which opens other things up. There is a reason they are a staple of the west coast offense.
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Damnit! Robinson couldn't hold on!
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That is how you use Cohen!
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If they mark it inside the one. Go big package and give it to Montgomery!
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TD Montgomery!
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Good things happen WHEN you throw the ball downfield.
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Defense just destroyed the Eagles offense on that play!
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Good to hear other fans boo.
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Terrible play call, play action doesn't work on 3rd and 9. Mitch dumping to Shaheen was a garbage decision too.
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Danny Trevathan has had a terrible game. He can't cover anyone & has been blown out on a lot of running plays.
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Bears are going to lose. You can't play half a game in the NFL and win.
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Another confused and disinterested performance. Trestman Jr's team never looks ready to compete this year.
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The Eagles TEs destroyed us. We can't cover a TE.
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Can we fire out special teams coach right **** now and make him find his own way home?
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Fitting end to this shitshow!
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Lol. Not even prepared for a squib kick. Shaheen contributes nothing.
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The temperature just got a lot hotter under Trubisky, Nagy and Pace.
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The temperature just got a lot hotter under Trubisky, Nagy and Pace.
They all need to go. I think they'll all be back next year though.
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Poorly coached team.
Chuck Pagano should be the first to go. Our D has become vanilla. We do not get any turnovers.
Fangio and Lovie Smith's Ds got off the bus forcing turnovers.
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Our ELITE D is anything but. Mack invisible today. Jackson invisible. Smith invisible. Turnovers?? Um yeah invisible. We cant stop anybody when it counts. That does NOT mean elite. Average at best. And yes Trevethan had a bad game.
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On O, the O line is pretty much horrific. How many weeks has the Tape Never lies pointed that out? Oh yeah, every single week. Cohen, get rid of him all together, sorry. I have no use for that dude. And my guy Burton, how did he do today? Yeah, just like I predicted, NADA, he didnt even get targeted as far as I saw. They all know he is worthless against the Eagles.
I am pissed that usually in this case I dont mind rooting for losses, but we dont even get to benefit from it with a first round pick. I lose Trubisky, Nagy, and Pagano, but that wont happen. Maybe they sacrifice Pagano after the season, but still you got numbnuts Nagy calling plays on O. And Heistand? Yeah I fire him midseason.
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I agree, I get rid of Pagano right now!!
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Our fukking O is terrible, the D ain't much better. That last drive by Philly.. WTF?? Disgraceful!!
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I guess Mack, Jackson and several other players were reading the clippings on how they were so elite. Show it in the preseason, then the regular season. Oh I forgot Shaheen, he needs to go, like tom.
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Amukura played well today, that was about it. Our safeties arent making plays like last year, two bad/scared tacklers. Seems like assignments are being missed, especially with backs and TEs.
They really miss Hicks.
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I think every single player bought into the Club W bs, along with the superbowl for sure and Mitch MVP bs. Nice going Nagy for letting that sink in. Douche bag. I am kind of ticked. Oh, and we made Jordan Howard look like Walter Payton. ANd we got rid of Howard because of why???? Um, yeah, that is on Nagy. Plain and simple.
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They practice their endzone dance moves more than playing their positions.....sick of the nonsense. And sick of pathetic football...
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I told my wife last night, I'm so fukking sick of watching these prikks lose year after year. They'll throw in a decent year once in a while (then lose the first round). Sickening! So tired of it!
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Ed Obradovitch and Dan Hampton are doing post game on WGN. Ed is positively volcanic
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Do you realize this team is about to repeat its 01-02 season? 01', they went 13-3 and won the division. Next season?? 4-12. If the Bears are one thing, it's consistently pathetic.
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I didn't see the game,but,looking at the box score Trubisky threw for 125 yards. WTF. That's Bear's 1960s stats when they hardly ever threw. We have a great defense and a lot more weapons on offense than we did last year. You just need to get them the ball. This basically comes down to management. We've ignored OT for way to long. Pace screwed the pooch on the Trubisky selection. Tell Pace to buy a toupee with some brains!
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Most of those yards came on one throw.
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v. Packers -- I was white hot livid. Space high expectations. The Packers are utter garbage and the Bears let them off the hook.
@ Denver -- Sh*t, that was thrilling...for about 2 minutes and then you realize the offense is in trouble.
@ Redskins -- Trubisky looked somewhat competent, but...I don't know. Washington was trash with a HC dead man walking
v. Queens -- F*ck yeah, any win against this team is big and the defense was awesome.
@ London -- The last time I was angry about a loss this season.
v. Saints -- Season over. Unsubscribed most of my Bears podcasts to keep my blood pressure stable lost all remaining hope for Trubisky. The better team dominated and should have won by 40+
v. Chargers -- Even if the Bears won, you knew this team has been exposed as a non playoff fraud
@ Eagles -- 9 yards at the half. Is it possible for a team to fire the reigning COY and EOY?
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In this draft trade way up with a team that's in need of a QB (Cinny or Miami). Trade Trubisky ,Roquan Smith and next year's 1st rounder so we can select Joe Burrow,QB from LSU. I say this cuz a lot of times people think a change of scenery will make a difference.
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Pace can't admit that he fukked up with the trestman Jr hire and the Trubisky pick. If he does the right thing and moved on from that garbage combo, he'd be on his way out too. He can't even admit the Davis mistake and cut the guy for a free 4th rounder. Even paces late round gems like Jackson and Cohen are actually starting to look like they are one season wonders.
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KC did us a favor today, not that it will help
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I don't remember ever seeing a defense stop Rogers the way the chargers are today.
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I actually feel bad for Nagy. He's like a white collar criminal who has been sentenced to a maximum security prison.
He doesn't belong there, but he's being violently **** in his ****.
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Sad thing is it helps us not a whit. Bears are so screwed.
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Even though Nagy is Pace's cum swallowing blowjob boy, he needs to fire him.
Ryan - there will be other cum drinkers. Do what is right!
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Seeing Jordan Howard today reminded me of Greg Olsen, Bears got rid of both because they didn't fit the system.
Some organizations never learn anything.
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Another game where Bears get ZERO from the TE position.
I've noticed that Coward falls down a lot, he literally tangles up his feet & goes down. He has a chance to be an average Guard, but I can't see him ever being a Tackle.
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TruBustski for sure is a headcase. But I think is Nagy too. Bears get what they get when they hire a motivational coach instead of a bona-fide NFL coach.....
As the team circles the drain (with a little help from the officiating- which is truly beyond awful and just not in this game) there are so many questions and so few answers to be had....
But hey, look at the bright side... the rest of Division lost today (although none were as pathetic looking offensively).....
Still a long way to go to endure this lost season. Do they continue to auger this baby into the ground or maybe level out somehow ? I don't want to look but its like a train wreck- I just can't look away...
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The Packers offense was equally inept...against a much worse defense...
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Stafford out, easy W ;)
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Lol 9-3 Lions.
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If they lose to a Staffordless lions we'll see a riot at Soldiers Field.
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Well, as everyone says.... if they lose to the Stafford-less Loins, all hell is going to break lose for sure at Halas Hall (or at least it should)...........
Keystone cops vs the LoLions. Hell of a game for sure.....
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Looks like sporty gets his wish...Whitehair and Daniels appear to be switching spots today.
Also, Shaheen is inactive today...
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Shaheen is a waste of a roster spot..
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How are you going to tell Shaheen is inactive today? Because maybe his uni doesnt get dirty? Cant be by the Stat line, thats for sure.
Hoge and Jahns were all over Whitehair moving back to C, lets see if it helps.
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How many times has the Bears made a no name backup QB look all pro? If they lose to the Lions today, the first thing I would do is to fire Pagano..
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WTF is wrong with the defense?
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This is ridiculous!
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Nichols getting blown off the ball every play.
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They're lucky the Lions have to settle for a FG.. This D is terrible
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I guess they are tired from being on the field too long because of the offense.
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Teams can move on this D at will. It’s just that. Nothing to do with the offense being bad.
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As usual let's run a 2 yard route on 3rd and 4.
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We get 5 yards running out of the I. So of course we then go RPO and get nothing. Then throw short of the sticks to high and the receiver bobbles it.
So 3 and out...
This team is a dumpster fire.
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That is a terrible call!
The guy slid at the last possible second and it was really awkward. BS!
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This defense is terrible!
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That’s a **** horseshit call on Fuller...
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That did not look good for Trevathan’s left arm...
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Trubisky needs to either run or throw it away if everyone is covered. He can't hold onto the ball like that.
This offense is terrible.
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Why do our receivers always jump to make a catch where there is no reason to leave their feet?
Drives me crazy!
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Massie you dumbfuck!
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WTF?
Trubisky finally delivers a strike in stride for the receiver and he drops it.
This team!
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That last series pretty much summed up the entire season.
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At what point do they consider replacing the coach? This offense isn't even at college level. The entire team has collapsed. This is writing a entirely new chapter and level of embarrassment.
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The snaps have been terrible today. Now you know why Whitehair was moved to guard.
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Losing at home to the Lions with out Stafford is embarrassing.
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Yeah, snapping ground balls to your QB doesn’t help...
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This is terrible.. Just awful!
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If this dumpster fire continues the rest of the year you have to fire Nagy don't you?
Maybe even Pace.
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He played center all last season. No excuse for those snaps. Seems like the team is giving up here
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No flag for holding Mack?
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OMG, where’s the flag?
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That should just about do it....
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Tired of hearing what's their identity. How about just line up and move the ball...28 yards of offense??
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This has to be the worst offense in the league and I'm guessing by far. Who do they fire to get this changed
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We found a TE? Braunaker!
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Braunecker! Nice catch! And nice throw!
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Play guys you might find a gem! Nice play.
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Trubisky is fine when he just has to play without Nagy in his ear.
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Also nice pass protection there
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So the refs have an ax to grind against the Bears. Multiple bad calls. And Nagys play calling, bad as well. When I heard Stafford was out I thought easy win. It will be anything but. I have zero confidence in this game. And their QB is getting rid of the ball quick, but come on man, Mack is just dogging it out there, when he isnt getting held.
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Oh and those low snaps, that was the problem with WHitehair last year. We are just cursed. We need to build the trenches, on BOTH sides of the ball. And I mean a lot. And it is too funny that Braunecker got that TD, instead of our stud pass catching TE Burton. But then again you know how I feel about Burton.
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Notice on that TD throw how Trubisky took his time to get it there. Wasn't a rushed throw. Looked relaxed instead of hurried.
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TD BEARS!
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I don't know, I think the line is doing better today minus the goofy hiking the ball problem. What do you guys think??
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LOL! Then he misses the extra point.
It is always something with this team.
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If Trubisky can consistently make the deep throws he has made today defenses can't just sit on the short passing game.
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Floyd... Seriously??
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Kwiatkowsi!
Paulie’s kid makes a play!
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TD BEARS!!!
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Where has this been all year?
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Stupid play calling... Stop with the cute garbage and stay with what's worked. Nagy needs to hand over the play call duties
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Gabriel!
Nice pass and protection, too! Where has this been?
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Nagy need to toss out the cute calls and keep on the pass train that's working. The line is working better with the change.
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Would to see them get the run game going, work on that.
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Nick is really playing well today
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Wow, McManis is on fire. He knocked one guy down and almost knocked a second down then made the tackle.
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These refs suck.
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How do they not rule him down?
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You gotta be kidding me...
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Making Driskell look like Brady.
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Mack pulled himself out on that TD. What is up with him?? All that money and not doing jack
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The tackles are still very much a problem....
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Run blocking still horrendous...
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Our pass rush has been completely non-existent since Hicks got hurt.
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Where is Mack??? 😡
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Not a catch.
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If this is ruled a catch the refs just gave the Lions another time out.
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These refs suck!
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A sack ends the game here.
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Nagy call a time out. Let your D rest.
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Finally got a W.
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Finally won one
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Man it seemed like we were playing the fudge pack with the refs today. Are you freaking kidding me? Of course dumb ass Nagy cant put anything together to run the clock out, and our D just shiit the bed. AND YES where the HELLL is our gazzillion dollar Mack been? Like how many games in a row, 5??? He is checked out or hurt or something, and frankly I dont like it. Happy for a win I guess, but dont have any confidence at all.
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It would have been nice if Nagy would have continued to build up Mitchs confidence by you know actually calling some stuff that worked in the 4th quarter, but alas he has to prove he is smarter than everyone else, and also totally incompetent. Jackass.
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Oline was still bad. Montgomery is a stud. Probably the second best weapon they have on offense. I'd love to see what he could do with a competent offensive line blocking for him.
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Kwiatkowski was great today. I can't recall trevathon having as impactful game this year. I would think trevathon is done for the year, kwit stepping up was huge. I was wrong on kwit , he is giving us solid play.
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Kwit has definitely improved this year. However a good TE will abuse him in the passing game.
I really believe a lot of our O-lines problem is the blocking scheme. They were drafted to be power I run blockers and now they want them zone blocking and they suck at it.
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I hope the offense learned something today and turned a corner. If they can play like they did from the end of the 2nd quarter through the 3rd quarter for all 4 quarters we would have something.
The defenses have stacked the box and sat on the short and underneath routes. The intermediate to deep throws should be there like they were today.
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Yeah, kwit is slow so he's always going to struggle in coverage. But I think he's the best tackler on the team by a wide margin. I also think he is a good pass rusher from the middle of the field. Trevathon and Smith get caught up in traffic going up field a lot. Kwiatkowski bulls into blockers and at the very least collapses the pocket.
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Yes he is strong and explodes into blockers. Saw him blow up some blockers a few times today.
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LOL, blowing up blockers like his family does lizard people!
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I'm concerned with where has Mack been? What's happened to him?? He has become a non factor in the rush and that is totally opposite of where he was last season.
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I can see him scaling down the adrenaline when he gets HELD every play and the refs just look away
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Mack was also dropping back into coverage again yesterday. Not sure what is up with that move.
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For me.. Fire Pagano! Now!
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Yep - I am done with Pagano - he plays soft defense.
Mack is doubled teamed every play
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Tonight is a tough call. I go back and forth between:
Bears 15, Rams 10
Rams 47, Bears 6
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Totally disgusted with where this team is this season. Rams are going to pound them because of the inept offense of the Bears. This won't be close, Rams by 12....hope I'm wrong but I'm probably not....
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Tonight is a tough call. I go back and forth between:
Bears 15, Rams 10
Rams 47, Bears 6
LOL!! I hear ya!!
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**** missed it. Damn it!
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Need a kicker, again..... ::)
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Certainly glad to see that pesky kicking problem solved
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Bears ball!
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Why do most of our players run for the sidelines. Get up field damn it!
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Run blocking is just non existent.....
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Game is just starting and already a missed FG and a key dropped pass.... ::)
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Bears ball!
Now do something with it this time.
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Well, both teams are good between the 30s :D They tend to fall apart the closer they get to it....
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Whitehair and his high snaps. WTF?
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Should have challenged. That was a first down he didn't step out.
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So Bears get the first down on the penalty?
YES!
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These runs, this run blocking, is just horrendous....absolutely nothing there....
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Is there no one on the practice squad that can be brought up to help this line?? I mean anything has to be better!! It's just that bad
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First down!
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Definitely need a new kicker...this is past pathetic....
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Our receivers are being mauled. No flags.
**** kicker misses again. Cut him and leave him there.
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Handcuff that a$shole and leave him in LA. Go for it or punt the rest of this damn game
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They will **** this game away. You can just feel it. They have been handed every opportunity and have zero points.
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Rams coach sticks with the power running game. Why can't ours?
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Our run blocking sucks. The line has forgotten how to power off the line and drive block. They finesse it and get blown up....
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Gurley is going to go for 300 yards today.
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Rams coach sticks with the power running game. Why can't ours?
Because he is a worthless C U N T.
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They get cute. Rams need to just keep running Gurley. Bears D can't stop him.
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LMAO. McVay goes full Nagy and loses five yards.
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Get in essence three turn overs and you are losing 3-0.
Bears will get blown out if they don't get their head out of their ass.
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These two teams are probably the most disappointing of this season. Rams were in the SB and Bears were expected to make a step and go deep in the playoffs. Rams have the best shot but there are a ton of teams with a lot of wins this season...
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Great throw, Tru ::) What a joke this team is.... >:(
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Nagy must go. One of the most incompetent head coaches in NFL history.
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Roughing the kicker. First down!
Bears will still go three and out and have to punt.
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Meh.
I should just turn this **** off!
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Why did we turn down the 4th down penalty?
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Why did we turn down the 4th down penalty?
Because Matt Nagy is our head coach.
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BOOOOO!!!!!!!
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Trubisky is just so frigging off it's ridiculous. Quit throwing high you bozo! He had Braunecker but of course gets it there too fricking late. And so many of his throws are high. This s$%% has to stop. His mechanics suck his accuracy sucks!
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This game play is going to kill O'Bradovich and give Hamp a coronary.....
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Games over boys....10 zip >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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That is all on Jackson!
This team sucks so **** hard!
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LOL! Kupp is on my fantasy team and Gurley is on my opponents.
Could this game fvck me any harder then it already is? No, no it couldn't.
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F this team! I'm so incredibly sick and tired of seeing them perform like this year after fing year! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ONE decent year and back to the **** show.
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Cohen STOP **** running for the sidelines!
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Trade his ass! Cohen ain't ****....
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What happened to Mack's bullrush? He's been content with the outside speed rush far too often this year.
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Many of us here said draft Oline. We did not and now we are paying for it.
Bears D cannot stop run and the O cannot run....extremely bad combination.
This season is over stick a fork in it.
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God this team sucks...bad coaching bad everything....
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BOOO!!!
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Draft a TE and O-line. Those are the top priorities.
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There’s a very simple reason these two teams are the biggest disappointments in the NFC.
Both have O-lines that have gone to ****.
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Draft a TE and O-line. Those are the top priorities.
The top priority is a new head coach.
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This Oline has to be one of the three worst in the league this season. It's just incredibly bad...
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FINALLY!!!
TD BEARS!
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Suddenly Cohen comes to life....what the H has taken so long??
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They have started slow all year. The answer is bad game plans coming in. Also Trubisky plays better when he is just playing and not thinking to much.
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Cohen has done nothing all season. His best play has been run to the sideline.
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Now how about a Mack sighting for once? Where is big money??? >:(
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That Cohen draw was the first I can remember this year. Trestman Jr seems to be allergic to draws and screens that work.
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Nice D stand!
3 and out!
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This is the old Cohen...he FINALLY lets a punt at the ten go....finally the light has come on....
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My god that was a horrible awful terrible call....what the H was that???
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That was a terrible call! Seriously?
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Sweet Holy Jesus **** Christ. Nagy is absolutely awful.
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Patterson is a dumbfvck!
Why the **** do you take your helmet off like that?
Did all of them take stupid pills before the game?
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Did all of them take stupid pills before the game?
They're all coached by Matt Nagy so, yes, kind of.
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That wasn't a fair catch. He just put the hand up didn't wave it.
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Why is Mack on punt return?
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Gotta earn that money somehow. Sure ain't by rushing the passer.....
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several missed opportunities, two missed FGs, at least three passes dropped.
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Just got lucky there. Trubisky can't hold the ball that long.
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Trubisky lucked out on that with the penalty. What is with him missing open recievers?? He's got to make those throws!
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Cohen hurts us as a punt returner. I would replace him with Patterson.
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WTF?
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Another stupid wasted play. Just toss it in the ground when you need ONE D YARD!! How bout run the thing? God this is pathetic....ONE YARD!!!!!!! Guess it don't matter enough ::) >:(
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Nagy is **** ridiculous.
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Where is Mack? He had ALL DAY to make that play. Where IS Mr. Money ???? >:(
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Lynch, "tackle"?? More like throw a shoulder in there ::)
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Fuller looks like another guy out there just trying to not get hurt.
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Booo! Game over! Season over!
This team sucks azz!
So many opportunities to win this and all of them were pissed away just like the season.
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And the worst part is no No.1 pick next year, so no benefit whatsoever to a lost season....gotta love it.....
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This team is pathetic. Sick of the same $hit every week.
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Rams did everything possible to give this game to the bears, and they still can't get anything going. QB can't throw, OL can't block, recievers can't catch. Hard to believe our coach is supposed to be an offensive guru.
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Game over Bears lose, Queens win
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Trestman Jr's desperation move, bring in Daniel. Nagy and Pace are going to scapegoat Trubisky to protect their jobs.
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Daniel in. Hey what the heck, who cares at this point. Shuffling chairs on the Titanic. Bring in the towel boy. Maybe the friggin towel boy should replace PACE!
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Nagy is a gutless piece of ****.
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I honestly don't care. I do not believe Trubisky is the answer at QB, not by a long shot. He's had plenty of chances to get it right and hasn't. So might as well let the fire begin....find out what burns up and what's left....don't care....
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What a bonehead move. Two idiots prioritizing protecting their jobs over the future of the franchise.
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The point of that was what exactly? Protect Trubisky from injury?
Destroy his confidence? I don't get it.
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This team needs a new GM, new coach, new offensive line, new offensive coordinator, new QB, new TE....not much...
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Pace has a lot of decisions to make this off season.
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The point of that was what exactly? Protect Trubisky from injury?
Destroy his confidence? I don't get it.
The point is to pretend everything is fine except Trubisky. Get another year of work for these clowns and hope they get lucky again like last year.
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If he keeps his job. How many GM's get to pick three coaches?
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I forgot one, a kicker.... ::) Maybe Money Mack will take a pay cut to buy one....
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80% of the problem is the awful offensive line.
Coward is horrendous and the others are struggling.
No running game and no pass protection makes it hard to run an offense. Where are Bars and Larsen?
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I'd still be looking for a QB. Tru even when he has time isn't accurate enough to be a NFL QB. He misses too many open recievers seeing them and then trying to throw to them, even with time. He makes a few good throws then a few head scratchers. I'd move on from him, definitely....enoughs enough....
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Sad part is Pace and Trestman Jr are going to be back next year. They'll mortgage the bears future in a desperate attempt to keep their jobs.
Nagy will be the head coach at Delaware in 2021. Pace will be getting coffee for someone who knows about football.
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They're saying Bisquit was sidelined with a 'hip injury'. Looked fine to most everyone......
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listening to OB & Hampton post game & someone said the saddest thing was watching Trubisky break out of the pocket & scramble only to see that every receiver had stopped running & were just standing on the field watching!
Pace has to go, Nagy has to go.
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Tackles - Urban 1; Floyd 2; Mack 0
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Urban??
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Mack is looking like he doesn't want to even be here.....he has completely disappeared
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3:33 left in 3rd quarter, 3rd & 1, and Bears line up in a pistol formation, Trubisky 5 yds behind line of scrimmage, RB 3 & a half yds behind the QB.
3rd & 1, it's a running play and the RB is less than a foot short of 9 yds behind the line of scrimmage!
Just watched the highlights & couldn't believe it.
Leno then misses his block & Montgomery is killed.
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All I can say is Wow! Not only does our team completely suck due to lack of Oline talent but more importantly coaching....that fiasco with 3 minutes left was ridiculous.
Now let me start with I am not a Mitch Trubisky fan. I believe he is not the long term answer at QB. However he played one of his better games of the season yesterday. With absolutely one of the worst Olines this season, if not the worst he was making some plays. Did we put Daniels in to show how bad our Oline really was, because if so that worked.
Here is the problem. I think we are very poorly coached on many levels. It is reflected in the teams performance and effort. If you think we need a coaching change, then we definitely need a GM change. I gave Pace a pass on John Fox, he was new a job and the Bears pretty much made him hire Fox. However Nagy was all Pace, just as was Trubisky and the other draft picks the last 5 years.
Drafting up to take Trubisky is looking like the dumbest move ever. I think Pace is over his head. Gotta wonder since Vic Fangio left how things have seemingly gone south in a hurry. There are some serious issues to fix that go way beyond the talent level, because we know the defense has the talent to be elite.
Benching Mitch with 3 minutes left just made absolutely no sense. Bone headed move, by bone headed coach, hired by a bone headed management. Blahhhhh. Terrible.
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Also sounds like things are going sour in Denver for Vic...
Can we get a do-over?
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Well the good news is that I went to bed at halftime. The bad news is that I taped the second half and will watch it. So we need ANOTHER new QB, but if we bring in Marriota or Cam Newton or anyone else, will they be any better behind our putrid OL, running Nagys dumbass schemes? And this is what I think is going to happen, we will give Pace and Nagy 1 more year, and we will do just enough, so that we renew their contracts and are stuck with them. What we should do is blow the whole thing up and start over, but who has confidence in the Bears getting the right people? I know I dont.
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Oh and Mack is in total self preservation mode. All he does is the big wide loop outside rush, halfassing it. No contain, no pressure, no nothing. He is just playing not to get hurt. Nice.
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why wait? Pace and Nagy must go.
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How about we ask the NFL to go to a Five-Mississippi-delay before the Defense can cross the line - fewer QB injuries - more offense...
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It just sucks that we will be at the Ted Phillips mercy again to find the right people.
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How about we ask the NFL to go to a Five-Mississippi-delay before the Defense can cross the line - fewer QB injuries - more offense...
Isnt that Paganos master scheme???
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Isn't it crystal clear that Nagy is a TERRIBLE O-coordinator??????
We only won last year because of D. And now under Pagano our D is super soft.
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The D has issues for sure but really... If you can hold teams under 20 pts a game you should win that game more than not if you have at least an average NFL offense. Sadly, the Bears do not. That falls on Nagy. He is in over his bald-visored head.....
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He did NOT call the plays in KC - Andy Reid did. It's time to give up the play calling for the rest of the year. Nagy is HORRIFIC at it. No Red Zone O.
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Hoge and Jahns lots of questions on why Nagy didnt know Mitch was hurt:
https://wgnradio.com/2019/11/18/hoge-and-jahns-bears-rams-postgame-show-a-debacle-in-l-a/
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Hoge and Jahns lots of questions on why Nagy didnt know Mitch was hurt:
https://wgnradio.com/2019/11/18/hoge-and-jahns-bears-rams-postgame-show-a-debacle-in-l-a/
Probably because he wasn't hurt. I am guessing we have almost seen the last of mitch.
What a s h it show last night game was. HORRIFIC.
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Can't even start the game without a screwup...nice kick out of bounds... ::)
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Tru misses the 1st down throw.....
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god the bears suck
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So so far, a kickoff out of bounds, a pass dropped, a Tru int, and what was this last one, block in the back? Which they're good for at least once a game. ::)
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WOW!
That is a terrible call!
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I do not like Leno, but that was a totally absolutely lame call....
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Like Chif said, this team sucks so bad....it's unreal....fire the coach, this crap is totally on him.
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Mitchell Trubisky is way, way down the list of things that are wrong with the Chicago Bears.
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Not 'way way', but he isn't the top....
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The crowd will boo this team off the field at half time deservedly.
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They can't do anything right in any phase of the game at home against another bad team.
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Trubisky sucks, period. He threw that off his back foot with no power in it. THEY NEED A NEW COACH!!!! This team is failing everywhere.
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They got the same kicker we do...wide right, wide left.... ::)
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Hurry! Gotta blow the clock down here with a few bad throws and then miss a kick wide right! ::)
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Why did Braunecker run back towards the coverage instead of more towards the sideline and create space for a catch?? Bizarre...
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Why did Braunecker run back towards the coverage instead of more towards the sideline and create space for a catch?? Bizarre...
So he wouldn't drop his 3rd pasd of the half.
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As Bears fans, we've seen some poorly coached teams over the years but nothing like this.
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That pass wasn't close to anyone. Terrible deep ball....
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Cohen is always running to the sideline. Cut it up field for fucksake!
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Finally a TD!
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This is where the defense gives up a TD to wipe out anything good
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Cohen is near the point where he just needs to be benched
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Tru reminds me too much of Cutler. Throwing balls over heads or in the dirt.... ::)
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Keep Pienero will ya? ::) We love watching balls go wide.....
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Wow, I thought Piniero hit that XP perfectly, judging the wind by the flags on the goalposts...
The wind didn’t move the ball a bit, though...
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Can Patterson return punts? Cohen seems to have little interest in doing so...
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They use those stupid underneath screens that go nowhere constantly....
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Nagy loves the line of scrimmage pass
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Another int by Tru with a terrible throw....
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Trying to give the game away..
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Gross game.
Mitch didn't look terrified. Non terrified Mitch makes dumb decisions with the ball.
Mack was back to the bullrush today and impacted the game.
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play of the game -
3rd & 1, 3:53 left in the game.
Power run? Nope, Cowart & TE pulls & they try ANOTHER short yardage trap. Blocks all missed & play blown up.
Nagy is a nut.
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Can Patterson return punts? Cohen seems to have little interest in doing so...
I was thinking the same thing. He missed a fair catch that landed at his feet and we lost 15 yards.
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Just finished watching the game. Glad to see Mack show up. The O Line sucks so hard it isnt funny. Sounds sad that Massie with a high ankle sprain is a GOOD thing. Mitch didnt suck as bad as he has, and although he was limping for a little bit, he seemed fine. Cohen, I would trade for a bag of potato chips, regular and not even bbq.
If Driskol is out tom, do we make the 3rd string QB look like the second coming of Peyton Manning? Or Driskol for that matter? The Lions are pretty bad, we SHOULD win, but I am not confident at all.
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If do not turn the ball over - we win. I am guessing Mack has a big game.
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Bears game today is probably more snooze inducing than the tryptophan from any Turkey being eaten today.....
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone !
Go Bears...
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7-0 Bears!
Great start.
Now let's see if the D can stop a third string rookie led offense.
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Oh for fucksake!
How do you let that happen?
This fvcking team.
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Pagano is awful.
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I just knew the rookie QB would gash them. Seems to happen over and over against the Bears for some reason.
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Fire Pagano now!!! Make that pr!ck walk home!! WTF!!
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Theme song for the bear offense.
https://youtu.be/faAOrf07lHY
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Helmet to helmet hit on the Trubisky. No flag of course.
Cut Miller and Coward.
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Miller fumbles way to often for how rarely he makes a play. How Coward can let a much smaller player take the ball from him in a scrum like that is unbelievable.
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Alex Bars, please.
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Nagys clown posse. This is his mess. He's got to go.
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Just a horribly coached team. Nagy must go.
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Nagy goes for it on a fourth and takes so long making the call/decision that the offense can't get lined up. The guy is in way over his head.
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This has to be the worst coached Bears team of recent memory..
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I am totally convinced Trubisky has to go. Tired of watching him miss open receivers. This rookie is outplaying him!
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Wait that is a foul but helmet to helmet isn't?
WTF?
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Next year better bring a new coaching regime, new offensive line and new QB!😡👎
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Make sure you avoid that first down marker, Tru...🙄🙄🙄👎😡
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One of the worst performances of the season. Nice showing improvement, Nagy.😡👎
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Cohen just lost what 15 yards on that punt return?
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I've seen enough of this clown at QB.😡👎👎
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I'm tired of watching the Bears trying to run from the shotgun.
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Dix was looking right at the **** football.
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Boooo!!!!
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Montgomery is pretty much getting those yards on his own.
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How can that be delay of game when the ref stopped Trubisky?
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Am I crazy but didn't the ref walk up touch Trubisky on the back and make him wait to snap the ball?
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Glad they won but damn!
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on the Bears 1st drive when Montgomery ran to the 10 he would have scored if Wims made his block - catch it on the highlights.
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Magically we won. Miracles never cease
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Am I crazy but didn't the ref walk up touch Trubisky on the back and make him wait to snap the ball?
That play was seriously bizarre.. As was the whole game...
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Trubisky plays much better when it's the last 2 minutes of each half.
How about Detroit's QB? The bears made him look like the next coming of Joe Montana.. We should've smoked these guys. But then again, this is the Bears we're talking about.. Our defense is really not playing that well.. The whole team is mistake ridden..
The one thing I keep noticing. Kickoffs, punt returns, receiver, QB, no one runs up field. It seems as if everyone runs sideline to sideline.. So many times, just run up the field and they would've gotten the first down.. Unreal!!
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So our D made an undrafted 3rd string qb look like Troy Aikman. He wasnt touched at all in the first half, and no pressure. Where was the Mack feeding frenzy? Lame. That unnecessary roughness penalty on Roquan out of bounds was super lame. The noncall helmet to helmet hit on Trubisky was total BS, although to his credit he did seem to play better after that shot. It was nice to see some long passes actually completed. No matter what Leno needs to go next year, and he can have Massie help him. Glad for the win, but I just kept thinking at the end how the D was letting them march right down the field. If we were playing anyone else besides the Lions, we lose that game.
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Trubisky seems just play better rolling out and no huddle.
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So our D made an undrafted 3rd string qb look like Troy Aikman. He wasnt touched at all in the first half, and no pressure. Where was the Mack feeding frenzy? Lame. That unnecessary roughness penalty on Roquan out of bounds was super lame. The noncall helmet to helmet hit on Trubisky was total BS, although to his credit he did seem to play better after that shot. It was nice to see some long passes actually completed. No matter what Leno needs to go next year, and he can have Massie help him. Glad for the win, but I just kept thinking at the end how the D was letting them march right down the field. If we were playing anyone else besides the Lions, we lose that game.
U blame 100% Chuck Pagano....his soft D created this - no pressure. We do miss Akiem Hicks - you can't double team Hicks and Mack.
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Oh I dont give Pagano a pass, at all. He can pack up as well.
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Pagano is an idiot and needs to hit the road..
https://youtu.be/19o6eTtkxTI
Interesting talk about the D. They bring up Floyd and how he basically isn't pulling his weight. I've said this for some time now.. Another under achieving 1st round pick for the Bears..
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Floyd isnt pulling his weight because he is tall and skinny, like a WR.
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Most everyone here on the board questioned his size.
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Hoping that Pagano found something in the blitz packages. It took him 12 games, but he finally started sending Roquan. It seemed that Fangio last year had a better plan for him. We are still a top defense, but these lapses are disturbing
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Braunecker and Gabriel out again
Amukamara doubtful
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Cowgirls tonight.
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I feel this game will be the Beginning of the End OR the End of the Beginning for the Nagy era.....
The season in the balance. Based on past performances it does not look good but on any given Sunday (Thursday in this case) you never really know....
Go Bears and remain relevant for another week please !
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Cowboys are a bad matchup for the bears.
23-17 cowboys. A touchdown drive in garbage time makes the final score look a little more respectable.
Bears need a special teams or defensive touchdown to win imo.
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can we please fire Pagano
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where the fukk is the defense?
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Brutal. Death by a thousand cuts.
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I hate how our DB's play so soft under Pagano.
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So let's put Mitch in a hole to dig out of... Thanks defense (or lack of)
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Fuller practically told Prescott it was zone on that 3rd and eight by starting his drop early twice. Easy throw for dak if he knows where Fuller is going. Got to have better discipline then that.
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Holtz is looking good!
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Nice run Mitch!
Good decision!
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So once again Trubisky throws a stupid ball to the wrong team and it's int.....
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**** Mitch!
Cowboys ball at the one inch line.
D better do something here or season over.
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Fukk this sh!t!
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That turnover will probably be the game. Defense absolutely has to bail bad decision Mitch out.
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I am fully expecting them to go 99.9 yards for a TD.
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Miller got held on that play. But he was nowhere near the ball
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At least they held them.
Wish Fuller got that one.
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Smith to the locker room.
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Cohen needs to cut it inside. Stop going out of bounds. Get the first then get up field!
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HOLTZ!!!
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Uh, where has this Holtz been?!??
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TD BEARS!!!
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That was one HELLUVA nice drive!! wow....very impressed...VERY....
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Plus they just replayed the Holtz screen and it should have been a face mask on the Cowboys.
Hopefully the D comes alive now!
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Not good if Smith is out for any length of time. That will definitely affect the D....
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I'm always stunned when the bears have a successful screen.
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I’m still not sure if the pick was thrown to Wims or Miller, but it wasn’t near either of them...
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NICE!
Come on Trubisky take them tot he end zone again!
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I’m still not sure if the pick was thrown to Wims or Miller, but it wasn’t near either of them...
I am guessing either some ran the wrong route or Trubisky made the wrong read thinking they were going to run a different route. It is the only thing that makes sense.
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So sick of Cohen running out of bounds.
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Kwiatkowski was limping after the last play. I'm really nervous if we are running kpl and Iggy out there
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Pierre louis needs help from Kwiatkowsi what to do.
Oh no
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MONTGOMERY!!!
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That would have been a great spot for PA...not sure why they didn't run it....
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That was PI!
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FIRST DOWN!!!
Great play!
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FACEMASK second one they have missed!
Bull **** call against Wims!
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BULLSHIT!!!
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Obvious facemask and they call a phantom push....wtf!...ridiculous!!!!!
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Have to settle for a field goal thanks to the refs. Peneiro will probably miss.
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Refs screwed the bears on that drive.
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These constant missed calls are BS! Bears get ticky tack crap and obvious penalties are not called. It's getting pathetic
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10-7 Bears.
I swear the NFL is rigged. The refs decide more games anymore.
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That was horseshit.
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Second one they have missed.
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There were either 2 or 3 separate face mask incidents on that play.
Horrible.
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Missed it!
YES!
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Now let's go get 7!
**** the refs!
I saw Nagy yelling at the refs that they missed two facemask penalties on that play earlier. You know the one they called a phantom block in the back on Wims.
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RUN that ball! Don't sit back there!
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If the Bears can score a TD before the half. Then get the ball to start the second half and score again the Cowboys will fall apart.
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They're playing with more intensity than usual
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Hope Wims is ok, he's been coming on....
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Wims should have caught that first one. Second pass, looked like Smith was there early. I hope wims ain't hurt, I'm high on his potential.
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Do the Robinson slant or TE in the middle. They are cover two killers.
We know from experience.
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TD BEARS!!!
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That wasn't even close. Robinson caught it for the TD then the defender took it.
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TD Robinson! Smith was there early again.
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17 - 7 BEARS!
We get the ball to start the half!
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Lookin' good tonight! Very impressed and leaves me wondering where the heck this team has been!
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I hope it has finally clicked for Trubisky.
This is a top ten defense he is tearing up.
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All 3 good throws by Tru
The incompletions were where only wims could get it.
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lol Smith both face-guarded and interfered on the touchdown catch and neither were called.
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And they called it shared possession...even though Robinson was lying on the ground holding the ball while Smith’s left arm was pointed toward the sky...
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We did get away with a delay of game but I have seen several other teams get away with them against us so, *shrug
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OL playing so much better tonight.
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Love that first half score. Need to do the same in the 2nd half. Montgomery looking better tonight.
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First down Mitch!
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WHY on earth has Nagy corralled Tru's running this entire season?!?? His running is making a huge difference in this game
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Leno sucks!
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PATTERSON IS A STUD!!!
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Montgomery!
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Nagy getting stupid here....don't get stupid, you're moving the ball!!!
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TD BEARS!!!
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My goodness, where the heck has this team been??? TD!!!!
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This is the bears we needed to see in September
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Miller Time!
Finally!
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Agree
Since when can Leno and Daniels run block.
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It's just totally bizarre....the offensive line has figured out blocking, Trubisky is running again, and the D is holding their own. Still need more pressure though....
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Wow
Only 16 offensive plays for the boys since the opening drive.
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Dallas is wilting....
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MACK!
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Yet another facemask not called!
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ANOTHER non-call face mask!! WTH refs!! >:(
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That was another facemask!
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WTF?
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Refs are trying like hell to rig the game.
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These non calls, someone better be looking into it because it's bs!
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TD MITCH!!!
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Nagy is a total moron for not using this kids legs. Unreal...Tru with a TD
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Go Bears!!
Really glad to see Trubisky stepping up and the other players on offense feeding off his success!
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Best part of Trubiskys td run was the defense coming out to celebrate with him. Confidence goes a long way.
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D has to do their part now and find a pass rush
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Thank you D.
Bleed the clock. No turnovers.
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This game is awesome!
I hope this is the turning point for Trubisky and the team.
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DB's playing great. Nowhere to go.
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WTF Miller?
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Nice!
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Nice win. Nice game from Horsted. Only flaw was the 2 false start penalties, but he catches the ball.
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Best game of the year. If they play this well next week, they'll smoke the packers
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Holtz & Horstead, offense looks different with TE production.
Leno still sucks.
Where's Floyd?
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Roquan has a pec injury, doesn’t sound good
Wims has a knee...APP!
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Outstanding game, best of the year. They'll win next week playing like this, IF they play like this. This game had so much to like- Trubisky finally running again which made a HUGE difference-the TE's two of them making huge plays, the line finally figuring out how to run block, Nagy taking chances downfield. It all shockingly came together in one explosive game.
Gotta love it!
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thought Toliver played well, was surprised the Cowboys didn't go after him more. Even on the TD to Cooper he was on him.
So both out inside LBs are done for the year.
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It will be interesting at the end of the year, when decisions and cuts are made. Would love to hear the inside intel of what happened with Mitch in late November/December. was it a natural progression or did Nagy take the reins off of him? Was he coached to not run, or di he just start using his legs. We aren't hearing a peep out of the lockeroom now, but would love to know what the truth is.
I can handle the truth!
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Maybe they'll stop calling Trubisky a bust now?
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Well, the answer it this game was the end of the beginning of the Nagy era.....
From here on out its time to see what he really brings and how this team responds...
FWIW:
0. That Eddie P FG miss in warmups looked bad. Complete shank with the camera behind him. He saw the camera and gave a sheepish, nervous smile. Glad he didn't let it get to his head....
1. It looked bad that 1st drive for Dallas. It lasted BAD for the D and took forever and was longest drive (in time) any time has given up a score on all season ? You've got to be **** kidding me.....
2. After they got smacked in the mouth, the team responded and promptly hit themselves in the face with that INT at the 1 yard line. I was like WTF was Mitch doing ? It was like he took the middle ground between throwing it away or into the back corned of the end zone and did neither. Glad to see it didn't phase him.
3. After the 1st 2 drives, the Bears took control for most of the rest of the game. It was like Dallas said "OK we scored. We're done. On to next week".
4. The D was missing a few parts (and I think will be missing more this week) and gave up some **** late in the game, but generally held their own against a very good statistical Offense...
5. It was kind of fun hearing Aikman get more and more dejected as the game went on. Almost as fun as the game itself....
6. I think Prescott hurt his hand hitting Mack's helmet in the 2nd Qtr. His throws were a little off for the rest of the game. Another thing Mack does that is not in the statistics....
7. Thank God for Allen Robinson. The Man Can Play. Ball.....
8. Miller is an aggravating player. He makes plays that make you go "**** Yeah" and in the same drive "WTF was that ?". He catches that ball for a 1st down and the Cowboys probably don't score more than 14...
9. I hope Wims is ok. He's gotten the shaft on offense blocking penalties. Speaking of penalties, since when have face-mask calls been outlawed ?
10. Where the Holtz has he been ? ' Nuff said.....
11. Good to see Mitchell run the ball... and well. Same with Montgomery (the fumble notwithstanding).....
12. I think Nagy was more mad himself for the trick play that went bad because even HE can't deny it was stupid and should not have been called. Maybe he's learning ? Then again....
This team still needs to learn how to put the other team away (not sure it ever will) but a win is a win. Rarely does a team go -2 in the turnover department and win convincingly like it did. The final score did not reflect the domination of Dallas.....
Go Bears. Keep chopping wood and building on this. Please.....
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Wow that was fun. Had friends down from Indiana, old bear fans, it was great to drink to celebrate. Where the hell has this team been? Who the hell was 49 and 81 ? 49 looked like Bronco N. rumbling down the field,
god I loved it. I hate Pagano's soft s hit, but the Bears don't ask me. I still don't have a lot of hope for this year, but its fun to still have a chance. I'm getting ready to go to work hung over,
but by God its a feel good hangover, not a "that sucks" hangover. That Corona is damn fine beer. Who knew?
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A night for tight ends: J.P. Holtz and Jesper Horsted left the field against the Cowboys with the first and second most productive games by a Bears’ tight end this season.
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I thought Tolliver held his own pretty much. Piere-Louis filled in pretty well for Roquan. Leno still suucks and I would replace Charles Leno with Jay Leno in a heart beat if I could. It is great to see Mitch using his legs, and hopefully Nagy has realized the error in coaching Mitch to NOT run. I was mildly nervous at the end of the game, as they started to go prevent and gave up the TD. And WTF on the missed facemask calls? I guess it will be good prep for playing the fudge packers, as you know they are going to get phantom calls and no calls for the bears, but still.
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Good game.. Trubisky looked confident. He threw the int early on and he didn't let it get in his head. I'm still holding out hope for Mitch. How can anyone judge a QB or RB with a horrendous O line.
Green Bay has to be a little worried. They aren't exactly killing right now.
We need Minny to choke the rest of the way and the lambs to tank...
Like someone said , it's at least fun to act like we still have a chance..
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Is Hicks out for the season? I guess probably so considering the season is almost over..
We have to get this O line straightened out.. That's a must!!
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He might come back for GB next week. Could be the spark that Mack needs.....
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Hicks probably plays. Smith probably a torn pec.
Would be great if Trevathan comes back but they're keeping his status quiet.
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I could watch the highlight of that screen to Holtz all day.
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Guys
The bears are just lowering their second round draft pick next year.
That is all.
Pack 30 bears 16.
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Just like your Packers...
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otto,I'm not a packer hater like many here. I'm indifferent to their success,but,what I will say is,we have everything to play for and the Pack doesn't. I believe we win cuz we have to and we're playing more with a purpose. Still a long shot to get in the playoffs as GB and Minny have to lose two out of their last three games,but,if Chicago beats them then they need to win both the remaining games and anything is possible. Thank goodness coaches are finally playing to Trubisky's strength. Running the ball is the wildcard. Why they got away from it at the beginning of the season is beyond me.
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I could watch the highlight of that screen to Holtz all day.
A thing of beauty. Where's it been all year?
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Guys
The bears are just lowering their second round draft pick next year.
That is all.
Pack 30 bears 16.
If the Bears continue playing like they have lately, you never know. I never liked playing for a draft pick. Pay to win no matter and let the chips fall where they may..
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This is the time of year when you can't help but look back at some of the losses. The Raiders, chargers, Philly... All winnable games.. Just two of those would put us in a whole different situation..
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otto,I'm not a packer hater like many here. I'm indifferent to their success,but,what I will say is,we have everything to play for and the Pack doesn't. I believe we win cuz we have to and we're playing more with a purpose. Still a long shot to get in the playoffs as GB and Minny have to lose two out of their last three games,but,if Chicago beats them then they need to win both the remaining games and anything is possible. Thank goodness coaches are finally playing to Trubisky's strength. Running the ball is the wildcard. Why they got away from it at the beginning of the season is beyond me.
The Packers (9-3) only need to lose against the Bears. We need them to beat the Vikings. Their other games make no difference to the Bears since the Packers are likely the division winner. The Vikings and Rams are the two teams the Bears need to lose while the Bears keep winning to get the last wild card spot.
Bears (7-6) have Packers, Chiefs and Vikings left. A tall order to win all three but that is what it will likely take (10-6). Although if everything fell right they might get in at 9-7. The Vikings game is a must win no matter what.
Vikings (8-4) have Lions, Chargers, Packers and Bears. They could definitely drop one maybe two games besides the Bears game. If they drop two the Bears might even lose one game and still get in but have to beat the Vikings.
If the Bears end up with the same record as the Vikings the Bears would have the tie breaker since they already beat them once.
Rams (7-5) have Seahawks, Cowboys, 49ers and Cardinals. They could easily drop two games still or even three.
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OK, Which one of you was this?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/drunk-fan-being-wheeled-out-is-delightfully-hilarious/ar-BBXSat9?ocid=spartandhp
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They said that Montgomery was hurt near the end of the game. Any news on what it was.
I would love to see him behind a decent OL. To me he looks like the best Bear running back since Walter Payton.
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Chiffyinva
No, will not happen.
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Neil Anderson and Matt Forte were pretty damn good. I like Montgomery but hard to say he is looking better than those two yet.
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He hurt his knee but not sure how bad.
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I liked Neal Anderson (not so much Forte) but neither of them had the ability to move a pile of tacklers the way Montgomery. Roland Harper did, but he didn't play after Payton.
Of course, the mark of a truly great running back includes the ability to perform over a long career. That is why I believe that Gale Sayers, the best running back I have ever seen, did not last long enough to be considered truly great.
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Forte has always been very underrated on these boards.
He was a stud.
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Forte would be exactly what Nagy needs in this offense. But I do like Montgomery's effort to move the pile and break tackles. Something Forte lacked. But his ability to catch the ball, his height, he was a true receiving weapon.
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Interesting discussion point. Payton had every tool, but lacked a top gear. Barry Sanders had the top gear and every move in the book, but was a liability as a blocker, and so so in the passing game.
Every great running back likely lacked something, one tool.
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Or in the case of Eric Dickerson... was a tool.... :D
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With the speed of today's linebackers, hard to get to the outside. Need a good o line to open holes..
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First of all, it was the Cowboys defense. Still pleased with the outcome.
I've been asking this for weeks - why has Trubisky not been running. Bears offense was not a juggernaut last year - you can't just take that away unless you get huge production from the run game. I know his shoulder was messed up but he seems to know when to slide or run out of bounds. This game he was turning up field moreso than not.
Bears finally have been getting production out of TE. But for weeks, they trot Burton out there and got absolutely nothing. If the guy was hurt he needed to be IRd. We have no idea what Shaheen can do - might not ever find out. Now Bears are playing free agents and non-drafted rookies and surprising teams who are most likely ignoring them on pass plays.
Pass rush has almost totally disappeared. Mack is not getting double teamed that much. Just not getting the sacks. He's trying just coming up short. If Akeem Hicks can be about 80% - it could be huge.
Glad we kept Kwiatowski. But this JPP may be better. Given 10 days he may even learn the playbook against the Pack.
Solid offensive tackle play against the Cowboys. #73 didn't get called out for any penalties. It will be interesting what the Bears do with him vs Massie. Big challenge coming against the Smith brothers in Green Bay.
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And my nomination for play of the game was the swing pass to Patterson to the left. He turned nothing into a nice gain - awesome individual effort.
Trubisky needs to keeps drive alive with his legs. Means more balls to our other receivers like Wims, Patterson and Ridley...and the no name TEs, and Montgomery.
Still doesn't look good for the playoffs. The Charger, Ram and Eagle games has pretty much forced Bears to win out and they'll probably need help too.
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Dallas - Good to see you back. JPP? You mean KPL? I love what we are seeing out of the tight ends. I don't care how we finally got here, but it is one of the missing elements all season. What is interesting is to see what we have in Horsted. If he does become the real deal, the fact that we left him on the practice squad for really any team to swipe - and the didn't - could be a huge key the rest of this season and next. He appears to be a larger version of Burton, and hopefully more durable.
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Interesting discussion point. Payton had every tool, but lacked a top gear. Barry Sanders had the top gear and every move in the book, but was a liability as a blocker, and so so in the passing game.
Every great running back likely lacked something, one tool.
I don't remember anything about his blocking ability, but if I had to have one running back at the peak of his career for one game, it would be Gayle Sayers.
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Moving on to the Packers game. We flat out have to hit Erin. Erin does not like to get hit.
I hope Nagy realizes the packers 6 or 7 DBs in most of the game last time.They did not attack the Peckers D very well.
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Erin getting hit a lot today by Redskins. I hope that continues. Unfortunately Haskins is not a good QB.
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Looks like #55 Smith is hurt. hopefully out for the Bears game.
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I don't remember anything about his blocking ability, but if I had to have one running back at the peak of his career for one game, it would be Gayle Sayers.
I wasn't old enough to pay attention to Sayers until after his injury.
But when I see old games on TV I'm always impressed by how tough Sayers was. He could take a beating.
The one thing I remember about Neal Anderson was he never tapped out like modern players. Today a guy catches a pass he has to come off the field.
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Too bad about Sayers knees - some of his knee injuries he had today he be out about 3 weeks. Modern medicine might have made Sayers the best NFL player ever. He also played in a time when the NFL was a lot dirtier - none of this flag football stuff.
He is a great guy - met him several times at charity events. He didn't like talking much about football - but the charity at hand - which was right.
I know he is not doing well right now physically. He had an extremely successful computer business.
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Met Sayers once at a ND ACC basketball game. A great gentleman. Injuries damaged his career. His overall numbers dont show what he really was prior to his major injury. He was truely a great player. Highly underrated by long term Bears fans.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZysEDVgDCA
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the tape says Leno still sucks.
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But we dont have 2 1st round pics to invest in replacing him. Face it. Thats reality. Grasp it Bill.
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I like the idea of moving Coward out to LT, or maybe Bars, sit Jay Leno, and play Larsen at RG.
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Is Massive worth keeping?
I am guessing Daniels and Whitehair.....and three new guy next year.
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No, he is not. We seemed to have turned the corner when Lucas filled in for him. Cut his asss.
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I keep bringing this point up, but it falls on deaf ears when I do. Pace came to us out of New Orleans. So how does New Orleans keep protecting Brees? Do they invest a 1st rounder on OLine each
year? NO. They pick up players late in the draft, like Bill's demon Leno. And they mold talent. We dont seem to have success doing that. Check out the starting OLine for New Orleans and where or how
they were acquired. That will show you how good teams build OLines.
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So your position is Leno and Massie are not being coached properly. That very well could be, but when you look at the mistakes they make, week in and week out, over and over, it might be between the ears instead of a physical issue.
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They changed offensive line coaching systems with Hiestand. Part of the problem is the new system and the techniques he employs. A lot of it involves different techniques and skills and getting used
to those systems and techniques involved. What the problem is exactly, I dont know. But in my opinion the problem began with Hiestand and the new system. My guess is if Leno were to return to the
old system he would be fine. Maybe finding players that fit that scheme might be as easy to find. Its not about necessarily a higher draft position it appears to be adaptability. Its like Lucas he seems to
fit. It seems the whole left side is out of whack. And the Left tackle is the hardest to get right.
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The other part of the equation here thats ignored is that Leno worked beutifully next to Daniels at LG, even made probowl. So in addition to the technique switch there was the position switch which is
IMHO the wrong move. LG could be the real problem. And LT is much more difficult to replace than LG.
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I like the idea of moving Coward out to LT, or maybe Bars, sit Jay Leno, and play Larsen at RG.
No way in hell. Coward doesn't have the footwork to be a tackle, watch the tape, he's unsteady on his feet as a guard so he'll never make it as a tackle.
Catch how badly Lucas looked on this week's tape never lies? Just fell on his face a couple of times.
Daniels just gets overpowered. Big disappointment.
Nagy keeps running traps where he has the OL pulling all over the place, but our OL isn't athletic enough to make those kind of plays - you watch the tape and it looks like a freaking Chinese fire drill. He needs to quit the cute stuff, which even a good line would find difficult, and just play it straight.
Bears have gotten more out of Leno than anyone could have hoped for, he stinks, accept it.
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I think they should spend 1 second on a tackle and look to FA for another.
I don't know what they think of Bars but they sure wont let him play.
I suspect Amakamura Dix and Trevathan will get offres more than they're worth so there will be roster work on defense.
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I love Trevethan but we got guys that can replace him, they have been showing that.
Prince will be a little tougher to replace, but he is definitely a weak spot on D. Don't forget Haha is FA at end of season as well.
I personally would go
Rd 2 LT
Rd 2 DB
Rd 5 G
Rd 6 S
Rd 6 Best Player Available
Rd 7 K
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Right now my preference is to trade down with both 2nd rounders and get as many extra picks as we can...
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(unless a stud drops to us...)
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Hiber - we are fine at kicker. Pinero will only get better. He is #1 with most touch backs. He has a super strong leg.
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I like Pinero, but would like to see them draft a kicker for competition. 7th rounders typically do not make team anyway and you can get one of the top college K's.
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I like Pinero and he will only get better., but I do agree on the competition - if the guy id NFL quality. I eventually see him hitting field goes close to 60 yards. He is still learning the pressure.
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Just remember, the NFL "Not For Long"
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Hiber - we are fine at kicker. Pinero will only get better. He is #1 with most touch backs. He has a super strong leg.
I agree. The Bears were foolish to let Gould go. I hope they keep Pinero and give him a chance to gain accuracy with experience.
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Cutler is one of ten former players charged with fraudulent reimbursement of medical expenses.
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Wow. Jay has like 54 Million in the bank as well. I wonder if he lost money on investments.
Hey seems like a real idiot.
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Bears have averaged more points per game, 20.2 than the Packers, 18.8 over the last five games, therefore I'm going Bears over Packers 20-17.
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This is a game the Bears could/should win. But if it is the Bears vs the Packers AND the Refs, all bets are off. If the Pack get away with 5 blatant face mask penalties, along with their usual OL holding, it is going to be a looooong day. Go Bears.
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The bears still suck
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punt
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The oline is so bad.
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**** BULLSHIT!
Refs going to make sure the Packers win!
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That is a terrible call!
Why do we even watch the games when the refs decide who wins every week.
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That’s a bad call.
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Refs 7 Bears 0.
Fvck this ****!
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Terrible, but really...who expected anything different?
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I have already seen several holds as well and a block in the back.
Seriously why do we bother watching.
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I mean, the guy next to Patterson on the penalty had a handful of his jersey right before the hit...
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GB winning on the line on both sides of the ball. Looks like Rodgers realizes he can beat Skrine whenever he needs to. Probably looking at a blowout.
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The refs strike again.
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It just ruins the game. The Bears recovered the ball on a perfect play by Patterson. In a game with such a limited margin for error that call was a 10-14 point swing
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I always see the refs smoking and joking before the game with the Packers coaches more than I ever see them with any other team.
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God the Bears suck... If they don't settle down and get something going this will be a blow out.
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It was perfect coverage, hit and fumble recovery. The NFL can’t have that happen to the Packers.
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Nice drive. Special teams gives up a big return. They can't let the packers score before the half.
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Terrible
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I'd take a knee here
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Refs 7 Bears 3 at the half.
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Should be Bears 10-0 or 6-0.
That was the worst call I have ever seen.
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At worst it should be Bears 3 Fudge Pack 0. That was horrible call. And it is nice to see Hicks out there with some energy, but he is have zero impact on Mack. He is in his total invisible mode today. Dude it doesnt get any bigger than this, get your shitt together and start making plays. I mean even Floyd is trying.
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Lets see what happens in the second half. If the refs have money on the game we will see more bogus calls. Not surprising, just frustrating.
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halftime box score doesn't list Mack or either safety.
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Secondary has been awful today.
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That was offensive pass interference. But they won't call it even with the challenge.
The WR initiated contact at the start of the route. That is what is being challenged.
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Apparently the Bears defenders have all forgotten how to tackle...
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This game and season are now officially over. Sigh. I have been watching Mack, he is ONLY getting single teamed, not double or triple, and not only that he isnt even trying. Pathetic.
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Mack is getting owned, 1 on 1, by the RT. Pathetic.
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And an int grounding not called on Rogers, of course. But there is the ticky tacky hold on the bears punt return. They got big money on the Fudge.
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Every time I watch him, Mack is just trying the speed rush. I haven't seen a bill rush or any inside moves.
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And a lot of times he isnt even really trying to speed rush. And dumb ass NAGY with his challenge, that Patterson catch didnt look like his foot was out.
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Mack packed it in a long time ago...
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That was in bounds. But smart thing not to challenge. It was to close they wouldn't over turn.
Just another fvcking by the refs.
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Oh boy,,,, 21-6... tight game..
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So that is two screw jobs by the refs vs the Bears.
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Sit Hicks til next season, over with..
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ANd there is the Leno penalty.
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WTF Leno!!
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That’s too bad...he was down...
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Well that will take care of that. I have been drinking the kool aide way too heavy the last 2 weeks. I was hoping for a miracle run to make the playoffs. That was stupid on my part. I guess it is just like the Cubs, wait until next year. Wait a minute.....
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Kwiatkowski keeps them in the game. No more fukups allowed.
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Really dumb play by Rogers
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Oline was awful. Mitch was just a bit better.
Robinson was definitely held/interfered with on that last play
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Ok THAT will take care of it. And no doubt a missed call by the refs, helllllllooooo PI, unless vs the Pack. Yuck yuck yuck. Well the good news is it doesnt matter what happens the rest of the year. All I care about is the Pack doesnt win the SB. That is all I want.
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Bears can't catch a break. Every lucky break went the Packers way.
That terrible call on the punt return was the difference.
Can't beat the Packers and the refs.
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So the refs screwed the bears THREE times. I guess that is better than 5 missed face mask penalties, but what do we need to do to get the preferential treatment????
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Fuuck the Pack AND the refs.
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Trubisky played a good game.
The glaring difference between these 2 teams is the offensive lines.
The packers protected rogers and had a running game while the Bears did not.
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O line, and with that the lack of a run game.. Huge.. I know Mitch threw that one pick at an inopportune time but I still think he will be at least serviceable if we can get an o line squared away..
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Everyone bitching about the o line.. Listening to WBBM..
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So, as we all know, the Oline is the major problem. They need two new tackles and a guard,IMO. Did Mack play today? 🙄
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Mitch was really inaccurate today, especially on what looked like easy throws. He had more than a few that were in a clean pocket that he threw at the receivers feet or over their head. GB probably left 2 or 3 interceptions on the field.
Mitch was subpar today. Oline was awful. Bears secondary had their worst game of the year. Packers WRs actually let them off the hook with a few timely drops.
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Mitch kind of called out Nagy in the post game presser.
Rich Campbell (@Rich_Campbell) Tweeted:
In Bears QB Mitch Trubisky's postgame press conference, he answered a question about the Packers pass rush with some noteworthy commentary on today's play selection and game plan. https://t.co/Oq90urH7ng https://twitter.com/Rich_Campbell/status/1206338636708483072?s=20
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He isn't wrong.
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I agree. I think today's play calling looked more like it did during the losing streak then it did during the past 4-5 games.
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The Packers use a ton of DB's. We still couldn't run against them. We either need a new O-line or a new blocking scheme because what we have now is not working. Not even a little bit.
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Glad to see Otto still around. Gotta have a village idiot in the land of idiots after all. The fact that he posted at all is proof he was scared :D
Well, the Bears did not disappoint (or rather, succeeded in disappointing). Par the normal for this franchise.....
Haven't watched the game in detail yet, but from someone not in the local market and seeing things though NFL redzone. It looked like Nagy forgot something.
The Bears have 2 x 100 yard recievers in a game (a rarity if there was one) but no running game ? I didn't see Trubisky running at all (again it was Redzone which is the only place where they show Bears bad plays almost exclusively it seems. Seen more failed plays from them than any other team in the NFL).
Nagy takes an aggressive stands all game (all those poor 4th down tries) then goes for the **** FG? WTF
There is playing aggressive and just playing stupid. Nagy chose the latter. Just like with KC in the playoffs when he as OC....
I fear this team is just good enough to never be good enough....
Down on the Bears atm. Haven't seen the whole game yet but was not supprised by the outcome. If we have not realized it already, we are in football purgatory.....
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1. thought replay showed Patterson in bounds on that catch at the Pack 2 yd line.
2. on the interference with catching the punt Patterson clearly hit him after he caught ball - but I don't know the rule. Do you have to give the receiver a certain space?
3. tackling by DBs bad.
4. Play calling bad. OL bad. Mitch needs a running game, but the OL can't provide it.
5. where the hell is Mack?
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Patterson was in bounds, this is a fail on the part of Nagy. There was no fair catch called, therefore there was no foul against Patterson, but it's the Packers we were playing.
The biggest difference, other than the horrid Oline play all season, from this year to last is very little pass rush. Mack has completely disappeared. Going forward, is he worth all they're paying him? I would have to say no at this point.....
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I believe all the rule states is that you can’t impede the return guy’s ability to catch the punt.
The ball was clearly in his hands when contact was made.
Patterson couldn’t have timed it better. It was perfect.
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The left side of Patterson’s left foot was in the white which is why he was called out.
On the return you have to give the returner 3 feet but I see plays where returners don’t seem to have that much space with no penalty called.
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We said the same thing about Favre.. For years..
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Rarely does a team get two HOF QB's in a row. I don't know of any to get three in a row.
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Niners had Montana then Young. I can't really think of any others besides Favre and Rodgers.
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The left side of Patterson’s left foot was in the white which is why he was called out.
On the return you have to give the returner 3 feet but I see plays where returners don’t seem to have that much space with no penalty called.
Pretty sure that is a rule in college not the NFL. I see NFL players running right up to the punt returner all the time. Also he did not signal fair catch.
They showed an angle that clearly showed a line of green between his foot and the sidelines. All water under the bridge now. It is just the typical treatment by the refs that every team gets when they play the Packers. Can't wait until Rodgers retires so they can go back to sucking for the next 20 years plus.
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This team has no one stepping up and being the man.. Mack should be one of those guys... We gave a lot for Mack, I'm not seeing a valuable return. This was a game Mack needed to step it up. We're missing a lot of opportunity on offense. With a decent line we'd be talking about how great our rookie running back is. Or how Mitch is really starting to come around. I still think it's mostly the O line coach.. But then to be honest, WTF is up with Leno..
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Pretty sure that is a rule in college not the NFL. I see NFL players running right up to the punt returner all the time. Also he did not signal fair catch.
They showed an angle that clearly showed a line of green between his foot and the sidelines. All water under the bridge now. It is just the typical treatment by the refs that every team gets when they play the Packers. Can't wait until Rodgers retires so they can go back to sucking for the next 20 years plus.
I think I accidently edited Dave's post instead of quoting it in a reply. Sorry for any confusion.
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Hicks was playing on pure heart today. I would say he stepped up big time.
He looked like he was having fun when he wasn't writhing in pain from his injury. But then he would go right back out there.
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I think the 3 foot rule is college..
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Dave, he didn't call for a fair catch. If he had you would be right.
The ball got there then Patterson lit him up! It was a perfectly timed hit. The receiver also was not moving forward, he was standing there waiting for the ball.
Should not have been a penalty.
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https://twitter.com/badsportsrefs/status/1206279350292819969?s=21
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I know he didn’t call for a fair catch. That doesn’t matter.
Read Article 1 of the rules I posted. You have to give the receiver the opportunity to catch the ball.
CP did that. It was timed perfectly. The refs blew the call.
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“Regardless of whether any signal was given”...
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davebear, I agree with Pekin, I saw a line of green between his foot & the white out of bounds.
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Maybe right I may not have seen al the replay angles.
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It was a good play on Pattersons part and a blown call on the refs, but that's just how this season has gone...not much in favor of the Bears in anything....
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Mack would have a lot more mojo if the offense gave at least an AVERAGE effort
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I have a hard time giving Mack a pass for any reason other than injury..
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I don't condone his effort - but I understand...
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I’m wondering if he is injured or never really recovered. In all the press you read he is the hardest working guy out there, it doesn’t seem like he is the type to skate by, especially if there was a chance at the playoffs.
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I think Mack has been injured all year
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I think Mack checked out during the early part of the year when the O was really really struggling. Draft Dr Phil said Nagy had lost some in the locker room, and I am thinking Mack is one of the guys. And maybe Eddie Jackson as well. It would appear that two FS dont do well, and Jackson hasnt really done squat this year with turn overs. So Dix goes next year and we will need a SS to fill in. Ugh.
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This is a quote from 247 sports:
In a draft littered with talented offensive linemen, it's the Iowa tackle who is selected first. Wirfs has the look of a ten-year starter at either left or right tackle.
They have him going 3rd to the Ji-ANTS. But the key to the quote is "In a draft littered with talented offensive linemen". That should help us revamp our Oline.
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Your making an assumption that the current crew can pick good lineman. They picked this o line, so...….
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I’m wondering if he is injured or never really recovered. In all the press you read he is the hardest working guy out there, it doesn’t seem like he is the type to skate by, especially if there was a chance at the playoffs.
There was something in one of the Chi papers early in the season about Mack being injured but then nothing else and he wasn't on the injury report.
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Your making an assumption that the current crew can pick good lineman. They picked this o line, so...….
I made no such assumption, just that there seems to be good talent available, unlike recent years.
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Leno's issue seems to be he loses focus. Sunday he just starts drifting off the line of scrimmage on a screen pass like he doesn't even know what the damn play is. Also had another offsides. But I must say his pass blocking has improved the last few weeks. Just had a hugely inconsistent year.
Whitehair had a huge miss that forced Trubisky to throw a crucial pick in the 4Q. He's the best of the five. Daniels is a decent pass blocker but not very good run blocker, in fact this has to be one of the worst run blocking teams in the NFL.
Lucas has surprised me with his pass blocking at RT. He was beyond horrible in the PS at LT, but although awkward at time he stays with his man pretty well. But again, not a people pusher.
Coward is the worst of the 5. But it's his first year at guard after playing backup tackle in practice for a year. And before that he was a DE. I know he sucks but its hard to blame him too much, but I'd absolutely go crazy if they put Bars in there these last 2 games. RG could be the focus of one of our early picks next year.
If you watch other teams block. Often times they will ignore one of the Bears d-lineman and focus on the other 3. Often doubling 2 of the 3. Then they slide off the double teams and go after the linebackers. These are called combo blocks. Running backs with decent vision and patience just wait for the hole to develop and usually get a few yards (like 3 or 4 compared to Bears 1). More if Hicks is not in the lineup. You just don't see the Bears O-line capable of doing this. Is it talent or is it coaching?
And their current TEs, who I consider the 6th o-lineman don't provide much help either. They miss so many blocks And our top 3 guys that went on IR didn't do much better in that department. TE could be the Bears first position choice in 2020.
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According to Draft Dr Phil, our OL guys dont fire off the line, stay low and win with leverage. They routinely stand straight up and try to block like that. Are they being coached to do that? Beats me, but how many times on the tape do you see guys just standing around not blocking anyone, or blocking a teammate? Whatever the problem, talent or coaching or both, it needs to get fixed or we are going nowhere.
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According to Draft Dr Phil, our OL guys dont fire off the line, stay low and win with leverage. They routinely stand straight up and try to block like that. Are they being coached to do that? Beats me, but how many times on the tape do you see guys just standing around not blocking anyone, or blocking a teammate? Whatever the problem, talent or coaching or both, it needs to get fixed or we are going nowhere.
Agree!!
Decent O line we'd have a couple more wins..
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When you run for a yard on first down the D then has a big advantage knowing you're going to pass.
The offense constantly has one hand tied behind its back like this.
Then the talk is who's to blame, Trubisky or Nagy. It's the friggin blocking that's to blame!
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I believe these O-line guys were brought on to block in Fox's scheme where they fired out. Now they are asking them to zone block. Which is where they use finesse to turn a guy to allow the runner through. It is supposed to keep the D from knowing if it is a run or pass.
It isn't working. Either bad coaching or the talent doesn't match up.
Notice the few times when they went to the I formation and did fire out they were able to move the ball?
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And why dont they keep doing that then, especially if it works? Just like Nagy trying to make Mitch a pocket passer and telling him not to run for the first 10 games of the season. Stupid.
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Stubbornness abounds... Nagy and his trick plays... Heistand and his whatever coaching... There may have to be some remedial firings in the offseason....
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What drives me nuts is on some of are pass patterns. It's obvious there's a primary receiver and most of the time that's where Mitch is looking.
But often times the rest of the receivers are just running down the field stopping, turning towards the QB, and they just stand there. The defender locks in on the guy and effectively takes the receivers out.
I understand that part of the reason for these patterns is to spread out the defense and keep them away from the primary target. But at some point the primary target is covered and the guys have to work back to the QB.
I've seen Cohen in the middle of the field with some fatass linebacker standing behind him and wide open spaces to his left and right. And he just stands there.
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Go back to the old days where they hand out paychecks after the game
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I think the first remidial firing should be Hiestand. He has done a very poor job IMHO.
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Pace and Nagy certainly need to examine and I'm sure they will.
Listening this season to talk on the subject of the OL from Tom Thayer, Olin Kreutz and Rich Campbell the type of linemen the Bears have put together are not drive blockers. They're more scheme blockers who can move their feet which is why they hired Heistand in the first place.
I haven't heard any of these guys or other media explain why it isn't working if the coach was hired to fit the personnel.
Either way they need to fix it
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I have no problem with losing Hiestand, but he was highly regarded at ND, and Kruetz raves about him. But somewhere there is a major disconnect with the OL and the plays that are called/executed.
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The Oline looks like those little football guys on the old-school vibrating football game (remember them ?). Spinning in circles and running into their out guys. :)
There is no reason to be THAT bad... Its got to be a perfect storm of wrong players and wrong coaching...
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I've said the exact same thing, they look like the players from the vibrating football game-set them and they go and block the water boy on the sidelines. They are terrible....
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Water boy? Here I thought they were females. LOL
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Hell they even fall down in real life (looking at Leno especially ) like those little fellas did :D
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contrary to many, I always thought Leno at LT needed to be upgraded. What shocks me is how bad Daniels is & how consistently he gets man-handled.
Holtz has blocked well as a FB, but on those traps where he pulls & comes all the way across the line to block the opposite side DE he simply gets killed.
I'd really like to see Bars replace Cowart for the last couple of games. Cowart obviously stinks.
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Its funny that Daniels was such a highly regarded C prospect when we took him. What the heck happened? Not smart enough to call the line plays? Doesnt know all the plays, he obviously isnt a mauler and gets pushed around a lot. Is it a poor scheme fit or coaching or what. Actually the whole OL has looked like crap, so I am at a loss. And so is our wasted season.
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Wasted days and wasted nights...... (old Freddy Fender song) :D
Time to see if this team has checked out for the year or whether they have the heart to try to win a pretty meaningless game. It will be a good indication if they have checked out on Nagy & Co or not...
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Well we know Mack has checked out. I dont see us winning tonight. I am probably going to tape the second half, no sense staying up to watch unless they are really lighting it up. And who here thinks Nagy with his "CUTE" trick plays is going to outcoach Ried? I suppose it could happen, but I dont see it.
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Smart move, but speaks volumes:
The Bears downgraded defensive tackle Akiem Hicks to out for Sunday’s game against Kansas City.
Hicks had a full week of practice, and the Bears had listed him as questionable Friday.
The team activated him from injured reserve before Week 15, and he played 36 of 59 snaps against the Packers.
Hicks went on injured reserve in Week Five with an elbow injury.
The Bears already had ruled out receiver Taylor Gabriel (concussion) and right tackle Bobby Massie (ankle).
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Early Nagy was saying 'we're all going' meaning we're all playing. Someone with some brains decided otherwise and Hicks will sit....
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I think KC will show us what we could have had had they drafted right. Isn't going to be pretty, KC 42 Bears 20
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it depends on which Bears team shows up. If it's the cashed it in Bears, I don't see 'em getting 20..
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What about Baltimore (another team), they're always there. I'm so sick of the Bears and their fukking once every 5 years we tease everyone... Just sick of it.. I would say, "well this is really hard", but then you look around and other teams do it. Other teams have a down year here and there. The Bears are total opposite, a decent year here and there..
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it depends on which Bears team shows up. If it's the cashed it in Bears, I don't see 'em getting 20..
Me either. And Reid has seen this offense before, meaning we wont see 20. Likely a couple of FGs
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We shall see in 3 hours...
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The What Could Have Been Bowl
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Three plays in - Nagy blows. This cum catching piece of **** is a historically awful head coach.
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Nagy is a despicable ****. He should be killed as soon as possible.
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Somewhere, Abe Gibron is shaking his head and saying "What the ****?".
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Gesturing at the TV with a leg of lamb....
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If Matt Nagy's guts were on fire, would you **** in his mouth?
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letting kc convert every fuc_king third down isn't helping anything
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I hate Pagano's defense. That prick went in untouched.
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Need some serious changes made in the off-season and some are not including just players. 😡
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CuntBoy must go!
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This game is becoming rapidly unwatchable. this team has laid down
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End of first quarter and the boo birds are out....
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What do you expect when you're "led" by the worst coach in NFL history?
N A G Y E A T S A S S H O L E
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That deep throw to the other side of the field was well planned and open; Trubisky just isn't very good.
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Please fire Nagy.
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Are you kidding me?
LOL!
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Finally stop them after multiple penalties against them and we run into the kicker giving them a first down.
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One of the most poorly coached teams in the history of the league. Nagy is in over his head.
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Nagy needs to put a loaded revolver in his mouth and pull the **** trigger.
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Chiefs aren't even playing good and they are handling the bears with ease.
The secondary has been awful lately.
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Horrible half!
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Nagy is the worst.
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Marc Trestmens best teams were worse.
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If I’m Virginia McCassky, I’m NOT HAPPY.....
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Deserve to be booed off the field. All the talk this week was about how Nagy has the team to giving effort in a meaningless game and we get this trash. Sad part is the coaches look like they have no clue out there.
**** poor fundamentals and a shaky game plan again this week. We got all these turds for another year too.
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Larsen is in for coward. About three weeks too late.
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Please make Nagy go away.
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I don't even care if they win. Just look like a professional football team.
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Why does Nagys below average playcalling go to hot garbage in the red zone? This guy is a moron.
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No professional football team would ever employ the ridiculous Matt Nagy.
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If they are this bad again next year, they could fire Pace with one year left in his contract and maybe Nagy with two. I sure don’t want Pace drafting the next Mitch Grossman.
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This is so bad.
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Maybe Ted Phillips can hire a search firm to find a consultant.
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Maybe Ted Phillips can hire a search firm to find a consultant.
He would have to stop jerking off first.
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Wims has been bad tonight. Cohen is awful.
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Wims has what, 3 drops this game?
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Chiefs are the superior team in every way. But catching the football that hits your hands is football 101. I hope he never sees another game in a Bears uniform after next week.
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Which player, lol. I can name a few...
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Wims.
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Cohen had a wide open first down and ran out of bounds like always...
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He might have taken it all the way but no runs out of bounds. Why does he do that?
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Reid could have scored 40+. Nagy needs to be thankful that the score wasn't more embarrassing.
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So I was wrong....we couldnt score 2 FGs, only one.
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Collinsworth is right the only offensive weapon the bears gave us Robinson and he would be third option on the chiefs
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Robinson and Miller would both be 1000 yard receivers if we had Mahomes at QB.
4th and 23, and you check down? What in the ****?
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Miller is usually just average
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Total embarrassment on national TV - we're getting used to it.
Nagy again starts out conservatively and fails to utilize the middle of the field. It's like he has this fear of the middle and it takes him a quarter or two before we see any passes inside the hash.
Defensively, we don't have DBs that can stay with KC receivers actually any NFL caliber receivers - they depend solely on a pass rush.
Basically, this team lacks size....lacks speed...lacks strength. And our QB constantly missing big plays week in and week out.
Two pass plays over 40 yards - the entire season!
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that Buster Skrine guy sucks. Prince Amukamura is done.
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Prince has sucked all year. I would say Skrine has actually played better then him imo. Both have had ups and downs.
I think the DC sucks. I hate the way he has our DB's playing. Bailing out constantly sucks. It doesn't work unless our DL get there in a flash. They haven't been getting to the QB since the first few weeks of the season.
Adjust or GTFO!
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It is beyond obvious that the offense Nagy wants to run needs a TE that can block and catch the ball in the middle of the field. We never attack the middle of the field. Always the sidelines and Cohen can't wait to get out of bounds.
When is the last time we have seen a middle screen? When we go I formation and attack up the middle with our OL running down hill we have success. Why don't we do that more?
I get that isn't Nagy's offense but if that is what the D is giving you then keep doing it until they take it away. Then go back to the offense you want to run.
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I see nothing to build upon come next season. We have a very average QB that isn't a franchise QB, average wideouts that lack speed, a coach who once again in the mold of Bears coaches is clueless, a scared D coord, no picks in the first round again and if we did we still have Pace who would find the lump of coal amidst the diamonds and move up to get him. This team.....
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Well, this team was Nagy'd. As in screwed, **** proper and told to get the hell out of here.....
You knew it was going to be a bad night on the 1st offensive drive when they were moving the ball (albeit mostly on Trubisky's legs) and Nagy calls one of his dip-shitty trick plays that goes for a loss. Offense didn't get going again until like the 3rd quarter (and failed at the goal line).....
A further indictment of the futility of this team is that stat that the Bears are the ONLY team in the NFL not to have a 40+ offensive play this season. Let that sink in for a second. The Bungals, Lololions, Jests and ALL the bad teams with worse records each have more 40+ plays than the Bears.....
Nagy is an offensive coach.. very offensive. Hell, he should've been a Defensive coordinator- he sure knows how to stop an offense....
And while on the subject of bad coaching, Pagano can go pound sand as well. Using Mack to chip the TE instead of turning him loose to pass rush ? What kind of stupidity is that ? Effectively it means Reid used a TE to take out a great pash rusher (when he did rush he was pretty damn good) alone instead of having to always double team him from the start. BAD BAD coaching. Pagano GTFO here.....
Don't get me started on Pace.. :D
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Well, got another year or two of this drek left until they blow it up and start over. On the bright side, it seems they can always beat the Lions......
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Where to start... Is there really anything that we can hang our hat on? I went to bed when it was 17 to zip.. This was Trestman bad.. May as well sit the starters, wouldn't play em during preseason, why play em now. Play some guys that want to play. Is there any way they don't fire Pagano? Actually, if it were me, Id fire everyone, from the top on down.. The fukking water boy would be looking for another job, the hot dog vendor, everyone... Somehow, they better figure out a way to let the fans know they're going to try to fix this mess. Of course, how do you fix this with Pace running the show.. What a mess.. I said it before, I'm sick of this team, sick of the losing. Every 5 years we get a crumb thrown our way, then it's back to losing. Other teams consistently win, why can't the bears. Quit making excuses! Why can't the Bears win consistently?
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Watch, they won't change anything. Add a few free agents, draft a few head scratchers.. They'll change nothing. I know Mitch is fukking up, but I blame the coach. Mahomes didn't just come into the league ready to play. He was coached up by Reid. Nagy is terrible!
I can't get over how bad the defense is.
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Trubisky isn't accurate when he has all day to throw. He's a bust, flat out, plain and simple. Bears can waste their time trying to put lipstick on a pig, but they'd be better off looking elsewhere next season. At the very least, bring in a lot of competition for the spot. After all, every Bear fan saw last night would could have been with a good QB. The wheels are off this team, and how to fix it.....good fricking luck.....
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I had a real bad feeling about this game before it started, and decided, with the help of a lot of beer, to just tape the game and go to bed. Glad I made that decision. I will watch it, just to see how bad we were, but 3 points? I assume the OL was putrid as usual, and sounds like the D was the same. I was thinking yesterday Pagano needs to go, he doesnt seem to have the players inspired like Fangio did. Not sure who you replace him with, but lets get someone.
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Who thinks the guys on this board could outdraft Pace? I believe it.....
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I can promise you one damn thing.
Chad fuckin Kelly wouldn’t check it down on 4th and 23.
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Questions that should have been asked of Nagy by the "reporters" after this game...
1. What is wrong with this offense ? (if he says some bullshit where he deflects the blame thats its not that bad, counter with "So you think this offense is good ?")
2. What confidence can you give the fans that you and your coaching "staph" can fix this ?
3. What reasons can you give for being HC of the Bears next season ?
(After that I'd get tossed out of the presser and never let back in again) .... :D
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How many of these games have we watched on national tv ? The 4th and 23 dump pass was the icing on the cake. Lessee... finally get a stop and run into the kicker, converting on 3rd and 23 (hint Pagano
rushing three doesn't work against that kid and those receivers)dbs bailing every fuc_king play, like the other team didn't know that. Bears need to get someone other than shawn Payton's personnel
assistant to manage the team. Also finally need to retire Ted's fat ass. Never will sell the team though. Too bad.
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hint Pagano rushing three doesn't work against that kid and those receivers
Bears had that late timeout and benefited from getting a sneak peak of what happens when you rush 3 against Mahomes.
So the Bears brain trust huddle up and again rush 3.
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Read a tweet on twitter and said... Pace's biggest draft mistake was not drafting M. Trubusky instead of Mahommes, it was drafting A. Shaheen over G. Kittle....let that one sink in.
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Actually, Shaheen had the better draft grade. Kittle was 2 inches shorter and 40 lbs lighter.
Kittle came from a proven program in a pro style offense and approaches blocking according to Lance Zierlein ike an offensive lineman.
And Kittle runs a 4.53 40 - Shaheen was a converted basketball player with size playing in a small school program. Ran a 4.79.
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Merry Xmas everyone....
I'd find the scout who gave good grades to Shaheen and do some research into his other grades... Chances are that the guy is incompetent or lazy (or maybe even a Packer mole :D)...
Something in common with Trubisky having the same problems over and over..... Dave Raggone. He'd should have been shown the door on day 1....
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All this nonsense is the exact reason why I dropped the NFL ticket years ago. Pay over $200 to watch this garbage. Plus, with all the nationally televised games it's just not worth it.
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I'm a glutton so I went with SlingTV and redzone this year. It is great to watch 7 or so hours of relatively free commerical football. Although sometimes the late slate of games is limited to 2 or 3 because of other scheduling...
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I'm a glutton so I went with SlingTV and redzone this year. It is great to watch 7 or so hours of relatively free commerical football. Although sometimes the late slate of games is limited to 2 or 3 because of other scheduling...
That's what I have, Sling.. I have the redzone on. Then I listen to the game on WBBM on the internet..
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Freeaking Pace went down to NC over and over to scout Trubisky. Apparently with no presure Mitch can hit anything....but give him game speed, plays, 300 pund guys chasing him he is atrocious.
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I watched most of the Bears games using the NFL service (I watch games I know were very bad in shortcut mode, the rest in full broadcast mode)....
Not sure what I'll do next year. Probably Sling but maybe Youtube TV may get into the mix (rumors only). I've had no problem with Primes Thursday games and they are rich enough to try to grab some more market if they wanted to....
Redzone FTW for sure.... :D
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What is "NFL Service"?
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I'm guessing he's talking about the "watch after the game was played". I think that's a $100...
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Yeah the NFL gamepass. It cost me like $70.00 this year (had an e coupon from somewhere that reduced the price). They posted the games like within an hour of the end of the broadcast (although it takes half a day for the condensed version to appear)....
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Lets see if we can make another scrub QB look like Joe Montana:
The Vikings are booked for the sixth seed in the NFC playoffs whether they win, lose or tie their game against the Bears on Sunday and it appears they will be taking the cautious approach with several starters as a result.
Courtney Cronin of ESPN reports that the team is expected to sit Kirk Cousins for the game. Sean Mannion would make the second start of his career. His first came under similar circumstances for the Rams in Week 17 of the 2017 season.
Vikings head coach Mike Zimmer said earlier this week that he hadn’t made any call, but the fact that Minnesota’s locked into its spot makes it unsurprising that they’d opt to focus on planning for the postseason.
Cronin doesn’t name any other names, but one imagines that running back Dalvin Cook, linebacker Eric Kendricks and any other player with an injury concern would be on the bench to rest up ahead of the team’s road trip in the Wild Card round.
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https://youtu.be/wwNV3rKeQgc
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Leno...has got to go. Anyone here disagree?? If you DO, you have not been paying attention to this clown all fricking season long!! He's TERRIBLE!!! This line needs blown up and redone. Blown the H up and redone.....it's disgusting!
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One guy that shined all season long- Patterson. GET THIS GUY involved in the offense more! He gets in, he makes plays. Use him at TE, use him at RB, use him as a wideout. HE MAKES PLAYS. Nagy is a freaking bonehead....I don't have any confidence he's the guy to get us where this teams wants to be and that's in the SB.
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My thing is. I don't want to just get to the Superbowl. I want a team that wins consistently. We'll have a winning season, then fall off the face of the earth for 4 years. It's one thing to have a down year here and there. This is becoming hard to watch year after year..
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https://youtu.be/wwNV3rKeQgc
I can't bring myself to watch it. Anyone want to give me a rundown on who was the most awful last week?
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Leno...has got to go. Anyone here disagree?? If you DO, you have not been paying attention to this clown all fricking season long!! He's TERRIBLE!!! This line needs blown up and redone. Blown the H up and redone.....it's disgusting!
I do unless we have two to replace him. LTs are too hard to find. I dont want to flush Leno down the toilet while installing a rookie in his place.
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I can't bring myself to watch it. Anyone want to give me a rundown on who was the most awful last week?
I'm in the same boat... Can't "bear" to watch..
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The whole OL looked like the Keystone Cops. Wims was horrid. Mitch made a few head scratching plays, especially when he handed off to Montgomery when he should have kept it and ran.
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I'm in the same boat... Can't "bear" to watch..
I’ve missed l less than 25 games since 1968 but rather than go to a sports bar I’ll skip this one.
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I've not missed a game since the mid-90s (although most after the fact not live). Needless to say I've seen a lot of subpar football, unworthy of the cornerstone franchise of the NFL.....
Today is one of those games that will be "sub-par". Let's see how the team is (having packed up the U-hauls and such) and the energy levels. We KNOW the game planning will be sub-par... let's see if the heart and execution are there (I won't hold my breath)......
Watching LSU yesterday and I was under the impression they could compete and win over the bottom 3rd of the NFL... After that dismantling (albeit against a depleted team) now I think they could do that to the bottom 2/3rds of the NFL. What a good, complete team. Something the Bears haven't been this century and at least 15 years before that.....
If they stand pat and make no coaching changes (Oline, QB, WR, hell the whole offensive staff) there is NO chance that will change. They gotta shake off the crap-ola they've fallen into....
That said... Go Bears !
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Since we will be playing the Vikes second string, there is no reason we should not win. HOWEVER, if the team has checked out, and are not buying Nagy and his stuff, they are going to loaf to a miserable loss. No real incentive for either team I guess, although the Vikes would probably like to go into the playoffs on a winning streak....
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Coward is inactive. I hope we see Bars out there in his spot.
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Comical first play. Second play comical too.
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This **** is unwatchable.
We’re playing their 2nd string, and still doing nothing but 3-4 yard pass plays. Dink and dunk against their motherfucking backups...
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Nagy is stubbornly making it clear he doesn’t understand passing sideways doesn’t work.
The OL can’t block a second string line......fitting
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We’re not learning **** kicking red zone FGs in a meaningless game. All we’re doing is losing draft position...
I’m sure the Vikings know this, too...they are smart, and we are fools.
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Cohen running to the sidelines. Again...
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Why is your starting WR returning kicks in a meaningless game?
Why not see who else can do it?
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This whole team needs an enema.
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Nice play Bush!
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Pauly’s kid gets us 2 points!
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Expose the lizard people!
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WHEN WHEN WHEN has the wide receiver screen ever worked
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Keep throwing it sideways, ****! It’s working great!
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I don't know why the Vikings don't blitz every down. The Bears have no answer for it.
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By all means...kick another FG...ass...
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So Floyd needs to go next year, along with Lynch, and see ya Ho Ho Clinton Pricks. Leno and Lucas are the absolute WORST OT combo in the NFL. On a good note, KPL and Kwait look like they want to play. Mack is having another loaf/do nothing game so far. I feel kind of dirty after watching such a terrible 1st half. I have no doubt their scrubs are going to out play Nagy in the second. And why, oh why, is Mitch not rolling out and throwing???? Oh yeah, Nagy. Nuff said.
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Packers with a first round bye at stake sleeping on the Lions
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Dont worry the refs want the Pack to get the first round bye.
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Montgomery is a keeper.
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Nagy and Pace have a thirst for this win. It'll be easier for fa recruiting with an 8-8 season. Also turns down the temperature on the hot seat.
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Worst screen team I've ever seen
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How do you recruit to a train wreck?
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Leno is so bad. I don't get how they don't sit him and give anyone else a chance to not be a turnstile.
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Our O-line sucks azz!
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LOL! they are going to lose to back ups.
Pathetic!
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Leno punked once again...
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Leno has to go....this guy couldn't start anywhere else the way he plays....well, maybe the Browns...
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Not just backups...backups on a halfass team...
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The “pass blocking” just scraped out a new bottom
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As Oct said, how do they not give anyone capable of playing the Oline a chance at that left tackle spot knowing all-season-long that Leno has been a huge problem on that line?? It's unfathomable....he's terrible!
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I'd cut Trubisky tomorrow and start over. Darft a QB and bring in Teddy Bridgewater
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We need comp at QB no question. Bridgewater/Mariota/whoever. Funny how Nagy played Bars at TE and Montgomery was dominant, then Nagy stopped doing that. Dumb Ass. And yes Jay Turnstyle Leno has to go, no matter the cost. And sorry but Mack had ZERO stats again, I wish I had a dollar for every play I saw him just standing around doing nothing, AGAINST BACKUPS!!!! He should have padded his stats big time.
The Bears didnt deserve to win, but I guess I am glad they did. Just frustrating. And if GB wins, just puke.
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8-8
Barely beat a bunch of back ups.
Not a very satisfying win but a fitting end to a horrible season.
I am not sure how they get this fixed in one season.
Do you fire Pace and Nagy? I would hate to waste another season under these guys if nothing is going to change.
They have very little cap space so forget any big free agent signings. They have no first round pick so forget that.
If you keep Pace and Nagy I think you have to add O-line help in free agency. Then hope Trubisky gets it with another year in the system and a better O-line.
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Put me down in the replace Pagano camp also. We need an upgrade for Floyd, and a motivated Mack. With Roquan back, along with Kwait and and KPL, maybe bring Trevethan back, the D doesnt worry me. Maybe replace Prince at CB. Oh and Dix for sure.
On O, BOTH OTs please, although that wont happen, and 1 or 2 OGs. Funny how Gabriel has been out with concussion for what the last 5-6 weeks. Seriously what is up with that? I think we are good at RB and WR, but man do we need a TE. And Burton/Shaheen is NOT the answer.
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Definitely need to bring in some competition at QB. Not a clip board holder/cheerleader like Daniels. Actual competition. Someone who might flourish in this system.
Not going to get that from the draft with no first round pick. So going to have bring someone in as a free agent. That will likely eat up most of the cap space they have.
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This game was like Star Wars the Rise of Skywalker. It left me feeling empty and wanting so much more. But it was at least a NFL game.
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Disagree on the cap space.
Look at the players they're not going to resign.
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https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2020/
10.5 million in cap space isn't much and has them ranked at 27th in the NFL. The league average is 53 million.
The Packers have 34 million in cap space and that is who we have to catch.
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Keep in mind we have a lot of contracts expiring (lots of one year deals) so that is a lot of players that have to be replaced.
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This was our window and it may have just closed. Nothing is impossible but this team needs so much help.
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They need to take a hard look at the OL including coaching...
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https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2020/
10.5 million in cap space isn't much and has them ranked at 27th in the NFL. The league average is 53 million.
The Packers have 34 million in cap space and that is who we have to catch.
Thats not accurate. It doesn't take into consideration players not resigned. Do you understand if you don't resign players like long, Trevathan Amakamura their salaries don't count against next years cap?
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No more talking about windows. We need to build something sustainable that is at least a 10 win season every year. fix the offensive line will be a big start. Remove playcalling from Nagy.
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Gabriel, amukamura and long will all be likely cuts. I think that's around 17 million right there.
I think Pace has enough cap + picks to band aid the glaring holes and make them competitive next year. His job probably will depend on it and he needs to be nearly perfect.
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Thats not accurate. It doesn't take into consideration players not resigned. Do you understand if you don't resign players like long, Trevathan Amakamura their salaries don't count against next years cap?
I am quite aware that players who are not under contract will not count against the cap. I am pretty sure so is a website that figures teams salary caps.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/chicago-bears/
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Long is under contract next year. Cutting him will save about 8 million. Trevathon is not under contract so his salary isn't counted at all. The savings is already figured in.
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Looks like we can save about 3 million by cutting Leno but will have 7.4 million in dead money by doing so.
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Irregardless with how much it costs to replace Leno, he absolutely needs to go. This is glaring hole numero uno that needs repaired. Fixing him alone will help the team. Heard a stat today about Patterson, that he's like the number one running back when it comes to ypc or something? Heard it listening to Arkush on the Score. They were saying it's unfathomable they weren't using him at back and at wideout. He hated the idea of him at TE, though, which I disagree with. I think he could be used successfully there at times. But the point that was made was that Nagy has a huge weapon he is not using correctly. What-a-surprise, huh. We've seen this with other coaches we've had. We could have some 'hole fixers' being used improperly or sitting. What's with Ridley just now finally getting some time? Nagy is a bozo....
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I'm just getting a chance to watch the 4th quarter. On that strip sack, it almost was like Leno was doing everything possible to not block his guy. I've never seen a lineman do consistently ineffective.
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At the end of the first quarter with the Bears at the Vikings 9 yard line Lucas blows his blocking assignment, lets his guy go & blocks a guy the right guard was already blocking. Sack, Bears settle for 3.
At least Coward was benched today.
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These guys truly are like the electronic vibrating linemen. Turn it on, they go who knows where. I agree with Oct in that in more than one game we've seen these linemen act like they're blocking air while their guy gets to the QB. How is this possible on a supposed NFL team??? And how can it still be a issue in the last game of the season??? Everyone involved with the Oline from coaches to players needs to go.....how can they not as bad as they are??
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Bring in Bill Callahan as O-line coach when the Redskins announce he is not coming back next year. Have him lure Trent Williams. Bring in Pat Schurmur as OC when the Giants let him go.
That would be nice if it were possible.
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If we had a turnstyle at LT at least it would provide momentary delay before the eventual sack. Leno doesnt even do that. Regardless the cost he needs to go.
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The first response is to can the OLine coach. Without that we are hopeless. He has to go. He is the key to the problem. Even Long would be an improvement.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2019/12/29/chicago-bears-takeaways-season-finale-minnesota-vikings-2019/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline
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The turnaround in Leno was amazing. Last year he was, at worst, an adequate offensive tackle. This year he was one of the worst I have seen in years. He is not old enough to have that much of a decline in performance in a single year. In my opinion, there can only be two possibilities.
1. He has been injured all year. But there is absolutely no indication that his performance is the result of injury.
2. His coaching has been horrible. If he has been adequate in the past, and is not injured, then the coach must not be getting the performance out of him that is necessary.
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He may not be smart enough to run the scheme that Nagy wants run. How many times have we seen the tape where he is just standing around or blocking his own teammate or lets a rusher go right by him. Then again, most of the guys on the OL have done the same thing. I am going with coaching and scheme. Which is sad as Hiestand was a college OL coach with a good resume.
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The O line was the biggest problem..
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Leno looks fat, slow and lazy all wrapped up in a rotten burrito....
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Well Hiestand is gone. Leno should snap out of his problem now.
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I am picking the Niners.
Who you got?
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I can’t pick against Mahommes.
Maybe the 9ers DL rush will keep him in check
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I was thinking all along that SF with their D and running game might be a tough game for KC. I’m rooting for KC though.
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Funny how both QB’s made a lot of “Trubisky like” mistakes when under pressure.
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KC=offense
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Looks like Sherman won't have to worry about visiting the White House...
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49er defense collapsed in 4th quarter, Chiefs defense stout in 4th quarter.
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Not knowing then what I know now, I still would have taken Watson over Trub or Mahomes 10 out of 10 times. I just wish Nagy or a QB guru HC was hired by the Bears before the 2017 draft and maybe there might have been another strong voice in the room that at the very least could have prevented Pace from doing that dumbass trade. I'm happy for Reid. And I still f*cking hate the 49ers because of Jan 85/89.
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Yeah, I rarely pull for th 9’ers. They are up there with Dallas, NE and the Packers for me.
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No team is up there with the Packers.
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Amen. Packers in a class by themselves
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Not a niners fan, but that pound the ball with good D is my kinda football. Yep, I haven't forgotten that '84 season. I went to DC and witnessed the Bears beat the skins. Then Walsh and the niners unmercifully embarrassed the Bears. Needless to say, Ditka and Walsh weren't best buds. The next season is when Ditka ran the Fridge in for a TD to throw it back in Walsh's face.
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Out of all sports teams, I hate the baseball Cardinals the most.. I hate them more than the Packers..
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Not a niners fan, but that pound the ball with good D is my kinda football. Yep, I haven't forgotten that '84 season. I went to DC and witnessed the Bears beat the skins. Then Walsh and the niners unmercifully embarrassed the Bears. Needless to say, Ditka and Walsh weren't best buds. The next season is when Ditka ran the Fridge in for a TD to throw it back in Walsh's face.
Wasn’t it after that year that the 9ers came to Chicago for a cold weather playoff game and won.
All the talk was the Bears would win because of the cold and the players came out in short sleeves.
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I believe the 49ers won 28 to 3. I was on freaking airplane back then and couldn't watch the game. F-ing pilot kept annoucing the score. That was the days of VCRs and bad recordings - I did not watch the tape.
It says 1989
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The cold weather advantage usually, not always, works when your opponent is a dome team.
The NFL routinely schedules the Vikes and Lions to visit Soldier Field in September/October...never December.
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Yep, ass whoopin... I think the Bears beat the niners earlier that season ('88), 10-9...
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The other one was Joe Gibbs and the skins.. was it 2 seasons in a row that the skins knocked the bears out of the playoffs?
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ARRGGGGJHHH. The Darrell Green punt return.
Those were the years after JimFinks left and the contracts guy Jerry Vanisi was GM.
Ditka handled personnel and was going with guys like Fuller Harbaugh and Tomczak.
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ARRGGGGJHHH. The Darrell Green punt return.
Those were the years after JimFinks left and the contracts guy Jerry Vanisi was GM.
Ditka handled personnel and was going with guys like Fuller Harbaugh and Tomczak.
In our lifetime, has there ever been a good Bears QB? We've had a few decent teams, otherwise, very frustrating..