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General Category => Archives => Topic started by: Dave23 on January 11, 2022, 02:34:04 pm
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Discuss...
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The Bears will be interviewing Brian Flores for their HC position.
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3 OC’s in 3 years concerns me
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George may be a dim bulb whose only qualification to run the Bears is that his mommy likes the job he's doing, but even he wouldn't hire a HC before a GM, would he ?
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I think meeting with prospective coaches is a good idea to gauge their interest and see if it’s someone they’ll approve when the new GM makes a selection.
If they hire someone I’ll be worried.
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heres my early ranking of the coaches theyve lined up to interview:
Guys I would be happy if they hire:
Flores: seems kind of like a volatile hire. could be great could flame out real fast with his personality. Unquestionably got the most of his talent
Daboll: developed Josh Allen. Modifies his teams to his actual talent.
Pederson: had a superbowl winning season with Wentz/Foles. May remind too many people of Nagy
Bowles: won a little with no talent in NY. Top notch defensive XO guy
I dont know enough about Hackett, Eberflus or Leftwhich as coaches to come to a decision. I remember Leftwhich being carried down the field between plays in college with a bad ankle and always liking the guy since.
Not interested in Quinn or Frazier
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Consideration for Flores is dependent on Polian convincing TedGeorge is quash their Ditkaphobia and be ok with a coach with a strong will. There aren't many coaches out there who can be an a$shole but still command respect (https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/news/miami-dolphins-players-react-to-brian-flores-news) in the locker room.
But yeah the number 1 question is why the turnover at OC and who do have in mind to maximize Field's talent.
My top 4 for GM are Rick Smith, Ed Dodds, Louis Riddick and Morocco Brown.
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I think Harbough has that ahole attitude but commands respect AND gets the most out of his team. He is high on my list. I would love to know the real story on Flores, like Daboll. I too remember Leftwich being carried down the field while hurt, and he won that game. He just hasnt been a coach that long.
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Disagree on Hairball. It would be 10 years for a winning record. Bye, see ya
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I agree on Harbaugh. Him and Vic would be rainbows and unicorns right now. But I am just assuming he's shaking down Michigan for all they have and that he is staying put unless I hear differently.
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If Omar Khan doesn't succeed Kevin Colbert as Steelers GM, he would be a great candidate to eventually move over to president of football operations if George would get his "I'm a fan only" head out of his ass. You combine him with a promoted up and comer talent evaluator, especially in the OL, like Morroco Brown, that would be sweet. They both have a relationship with Mark Sadowski who IMO is still a valuable piece of the college scouting side that helped Pace get some of those late round values.
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GM first, HC as he sees fit. Any other way would be disaster....
George "Chauncey The Gardener" making it go the other way would just be his way of "Being There" (sweaty Teddy in for the final call probably)....
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CHICAGO BEARS TO INTERVIEW ENTIRE NFL FOR GM AND HC POSITIONS.
Hey how do you kill three birds with one stone ? Hire Nathanial Hackett from G.B.
1. We get a H.C.
2. We get the O.C. who keeps the pack at 13-3.
3. We take the brains from the packers.
Btw ... throw in Fangio at D.C. Your thoughts ?
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I think my favorite GM/coach combo early on is Elliot Wolf/Flores.
Wolf is the son of Ron Wolf. He worked for the Packers and is now with the Patriots, so he came up in the best two run franchises in the NFL.
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Interesting GM possibility:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2022/1/12/22881062/eliot-wolf-an-intriguing-gm-option-for-bears.
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I dont think Hackett is the one who is making Rogers a success in GB. I think Rogers has the horseshoe up his asss along with something else, and he makes who ever look good. Pass on him.
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The Packers has had a horseshoe, rabbit's foot, and the kitchen sink up their asses for the last 30 goddamn years. Maybe Eliot Wolfe will want to prove they were wrong for choosing Gutekunst over nepotism at GM...
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I think that would be a great idea. Does the family that got really rich while fielding a losing team for 30 years think so ? Probably not. basically same group of buffoons that have done the choosing before. Number one qualifier? The family likes you. Number 2-10 qualifiers ? See qualifier number 1.
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Our only hope is that Polian steers them in the right direction.
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I've been thinking about and I believe there's a well of feeling for the Bears (as among most teams) amongst fans. That well does dry up if not rewarded with the great story, championship and all that comes with that territory. I think the well amongst fans (especially older ones) is drying up fast. Younger ones don't even have that to fall back on. We at least have 85.
But before that all that was the 63 champions and the champions of the bygone age of the 30s-50s. I became a fan in the terrible 70s, caught between the 2 worlds of the 63 Championship team and before the 85 SB run and the playoffs runs of the 80s. We had Walter to look forward to on Sunday. We had legends of the recent past (Ditka, Sayers, Butkis) and a few we rooted for because they were our our "guys" (like the 2 Dougys Buffone and Plank). But the offense (other than Walter) was horseshit, even in a bad offensive era. Still the well of hope filled up when we went to the playoffs in the late 70s, even though they never advanced. And when Da Coach came in and Halas passed, we knew we were in for a hell of a ride.....
Today, most fans are far younger than I, and 1985, as legendary as it was, is as far before their time as the 63 championship was to mine. There "well" has been filled up with a crappy 90s, Hopeful early 2000s and much really, really bad offensive football in a league that EMPHASIZES offense. That SB that they lost was truly a lost opportunity.....
Why this rant ? Because I think that the McCaskets don't get that the well is not as full as it was for those who lived through the 80s (in particular 85). Fandom is different now. People tend root for players, not laundry, so to speak. The cost to be paid for Fantasy Football and now legalized gambling. A few more years of current ineptitude and it will be VERY hard for them to find anyone who gives a damn about them. And if the younger generation does not care, what will they instill in THEIR younger generation of kids coming up ?
I truly fear the fields of failed dreams this franchise has sown over the last 30 or so years will reverberate in Bear fandom in the years to come. They are a joke. I mean the SNL superfans skits, as fun as they are, were a backhand slap at the Second City but we loved them just the same. Now when casual fans think bears they think of the franchise that cannot shoot straight. The "lets let Rex pass the ball in the rain when running the ball was working" or the "Double Doink". I mean, the Bears never had a 4000 yard passer in a 16 game season. And they look like they will never have on in a 17 game season either. Disgraceful.
The McCaskets are running a funeral parlor for Christ's sake. They have been burying this franchise since they booted Finks out and got their ghoulish hands on the controls.
Despite this rant I am a naturally optimistic person, but thinking about this franchise is so damn depressing. These hires are the most important in their history- and I don't think really realize that. Maybe they'll get it right this time. Probably not considering the same fools are in charge of hiring the new fools that hired the previous fools (x2).....
We shall see. But the well is drying up fast, and they need to refill it pronto..........
If nothing else, its a version of reality TV that at least isn't pre-scripted (yet) :D
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https://www.chicagobears.com/news/quick-hits-bill-polian-great-resource-to-bears-justin-fields-new-coach-gm
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/11/chicago-bears-attractive-general-manager-head-coach-destination-justin-fields/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
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Back when we drafted trubisky we were all against it except for one poster who said thats who we would take.
Anyone remember who that poster was ?
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I never thought Glennon was the guy, even with the long term deal, that the Bears were seriously going to go with at QB. I looked at the QB rankings and Trubisky for the most part was the highest rated QB of the 3. I had watched a bowl game he played in and saw a QB with mobility and a strong arm. I figured Trubisky was the pick.
There was some support here for Solomon Thomas and Jamaal Adams. I don't recall many calling for Watson or Mahomes though I'm sure they'll spout now that he was their guy.
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Back when we drafted trubisky we were all against it except for one poster who said thats who we would take.
Anyone remember who that poster was ?
I didnt like Trubisky for several reasons. First of all he wasnt a 4 year QB. They had a one year window to make a judgement. He didnt go to a big name football university either. He had failure
written all over him from the beginning.
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Bears4ever - Love and lived the rant. Optimism is what we have in buckets.
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I was on board with Adams, but was okay with Watson. Watson's pedigree at Clemson, in the biggest games was my draw. The drawback was his knee injury history. Mahommes was compared to Cutler at the time, and no one wanted a 2nd screening of that.
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I just assumed Watson would be picked. The trade up to take Trubisky was absolutely insane.
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Ty Grizz- I view this board as my therapy, binky and sounding board all combined in one as far as the Bears go. I think its part of why I've been here for so long since the move from the old boards.....
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Trubisky was my #1 qb choice. He had the mobility and the arm. And Nagy totally didnt play to his strengths. Remember moving on to level 202?
On the HC front, I am torn about wanting a Def based HC. If we get one, the defense will be good, but he will have to hire a good OC. If that OC is good, and if/when/hopefully he makes Fields a success he is going to get poached by some other team for HC. If we get an offense HC, at least he would remain, and provide continuity for Fields.
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Boogie, I am in the same boat as you. That is why I would lean toward an offensive minded HC. Personally I would love to see Harbaugh and Fangio back together.
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Bears4- great post and agree with ya. We've had loads of optimism for ages now and nothing ever comes of it. It is definately drying me up. I'm not nearly as into the Bears as I used to be. It really sucks because I like football but when this stupid team just keeps doing the dumbest crap year after year it wears on ya. Decades of this is just too much. I'm not a Cubs fan with eternal patience. It's either time to get the thing figured out or cut bait and I'm about at the cut bait stage....
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I just read that Flores went thru 4 OC in 3 years. I am kind of putting him on the bottom of my list now.
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Harbaugh is hiring coaches at Michigan. I think he's staying there.
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Not sure how much of this is correct, but it kinda makes a lot of sense to me:
In 2018, former Bears quarterback Mitchell Trubisky was a Pro-Bowl alternate and former head coach Matt Nagy was awarded Coach of the Year. It was a season that felt magical, as the Bears went 12-4 and won the NFC North. It was a match made by the football gods – or so we thought.
The Bears had a young quarterback in his second season and the hot coordinator turned head coach. Everything was going right. Trubisky wasn’t putting up the same stats as Patrick Mahomes, but the team was successful enough where it wasn’t the media’s biggest story.
The story was, Nagy is a genius who turned Trubisky’s struggling rookie season into a fantastic second year. It was comparable to two teams. The 2017 Rams or 2017 Eagles. All three teams had young offensive coaches with young rising quarterbacks.
Funny enough, in 2021, all three quarterbacks, Trubisky, Goff, and Wentz, played on different teams. But where did things go wrong for Nagy and Trubisky? How far does the divide go?
Where it all started
According to Adam Jahns and Kevin Fishbain of The Athletic, it goes as far back as 2019. Though Trubisky wasn’t officially benched until Week 3 of the 2020 season, the quarterback and head coach weren’t getting along as early as Week 3 of 2019.
The world was introduced to both Nagy’s frustration with Trubisky early in the 2019 season, where he chewed him out during a Monday Night Football game against Washington. It’s fair to assume the two might have had issues prior to that game. It just wasn’t highlighted until it was seen in prime time.
It was a big story, but both Nagy and Trubisky assured the media that there was no problem between the two.
“I have a heated side to me, and that’s OK. Mitch does, too,” Nagy said referring to the incident. “It’s because we care.”
Trubisky stuck up for his coach saying, “I love it. I love it. I got fired up. That’s what you want from your head coach. You want passion.”
Everything was fine, right? No.
The rift deepens
As the Bears continued to struggle in 2019, Trubisky played through a torn left labrum. He wore a harness to protect his shoulder and even admitted after the season that it was uncomfortable, and he believed it impacted his accuracy, for the worse.
Here’s where the story gets interesting. Trubisky was supposed to meet with Nagy to discuss the 2019 season once it concluded. Trubisky had notes of what he wanted to discuss about the offense. A source told The Athletic that Nagy was a no-show at the meeting and “Trubisky left his notes” where the meeting was supposed to take place.
During the offseason going into the 2020 NFL season, Trubisky did have surgery to repair his injured left shoulder. In rehab, he was working on his throwing motions.
It was reported that Trubisky’s trainer saw structural issues with his right shoulder, which was injured in the 2018 season. That could have been the root cause of his accuracy issues.
During the offseason, the Bears traded for Nick Foles to add some competition for Trubisky. Trubisky worked his entire offseason on fixing both shoulders to get ready for camp. Trubisky won the quarterback competition, but his leash was very short.
Trubisky saw the writing on the wall though. It wasn’t only Foles who would say “this offense isn’t working.” Trubisky was smart enough to know it, too. He just expressed it a different way than Foles did.
Another source told The Athletic that Trubisky would be in the middle of camp and admit that “none of this stuff is working,” and would point out the issues in the offense. Nagy and his “trust the process mindset” didn’t work. Trusting the process highlighted the same offensive issues, that Trubisky, instead of his coach, was blamed for.
The turning point
In 2020, even at 2-0, “Matt Nagy wasn’t happy,” according to The Athletic. Trubisky made some throws that annoyed Nagy. They were considered to be situational “errors” where Nagy wanted the ball thrown somewhere else.
While watching game film of the Week 2 win against the Giants, Nagy chewed out Trubisky in front of the entire team.
The play that annoyed Nagy was a three-route concept that went to tight end, Cole Kmet. The play had Allen Robinson running an out, Darnell Mooney running a fade, and Tarik Cohen on a swing route. The play was supposed to end up with Trubisky finding the fade. Even though this drive ended up in a passing touchdown to Mooney, Nagy was annoyed.
Robinson was open and instead of hitting him, Trubisky went to Kmet.
Nagy proceeded to “chastise” Trubisky, calling him “uncoachable” and not throwing the ball to the right receiver. This reportedly bummed Trubisky out and bummed out his teammates. Foles stated that “Mitch was really liked by his teammates.” This could have been the turning point that turned the locker room against Nagy.
For Trubisky being “uncoachable,” him calling out problems and trying to fix things with the offense doesn’t agree with Nagy’s statement. Nagy was done with Trubisky. The quarterback wanted to find success in Chicago and fix things, but it wasn’t mutual.
A fresh start
Trubisky, when joining the Bills, said it was nice to be somewhere where he was wanted. Some fans took that as a jab at the Bears, but really, it was a jab at how Nagy treated him.
Trubisky wasn’t taken seriously by Nagy. He wasn’t wanted. Nagy failed Trubisky, it wasn’t the other way around.
Even with his faults, Trubisky cared about finding success with the Bears. He had a coach that was unapproachable and stubborn. Missing a meeting with your quarterback, who wanted to make the offense better, is unacceptable.
So, to the outside world, Trubisky looked like the issue in Chicago. He was painted as a bust and someone who wasn’t smart enough to learn Nagy’s offense. Maybe it was just Nagy’s offense didn’t work.
Nagy is now done coaching in Chicago, and Trubisky is searching for a second chance to be an NFL starter. In the right spot, maybe he’ll have success. But under Nagy, no matter how many seasons they would have had, repeating their 2018 success would have been likely impossible.
What makes this story even crazy is how Trubisky, when he returned in 2020 after being benched, saved Nagy’s job for one more season. He won three of the final four games and got Chicago into the playoffs. If Foles never got injured, Trubisky wouldn’t have been back on the field. Without that, Nagy would have (likely) been fired following the 2020 season.
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What makes this story even crazy is how Trubisky, when he returned in 2020 after being benched, saved Nagy’s job for one more season. He won three of the final four games and got Chicago into the playoffs. If Foles never got injured, Trubisky wouldn’t have been back on the field. Without that, Nagy would have (likely) been fired following the 2020 season.
I knew it. Trubisky is to blame for this years record. ;)
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/13/bears-head-coach-job-early-favorites-brian-flores-todd-bowles-leslie-frazier/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
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Matt Nagy is on a short list of the worst head coaches in NFL history. Mitchell Trubisky is NOT on a short list of the worst quarterbacks in NFL history.
Do the math.
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I think Mike Glennon may be near the head of that prominent list of worst QBs in NFL history...... :D
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Todd Collins, the mighty Quinn or [insert yet another horrific Bear QB here] might have something to say about that...
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Yeah there’s a list.
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Its just all starting to wear very thin. Decades, Decades ! of f uckup, after f uckup after f uckup. I'll never feel the way I felt in 85. Its all gone for me. The nfl got woke, prices for everything simply skyrocketed the kneeling bull **** by millionares........enough. I have alot of other things to do with my time.
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Yeah its a shame. Football is a hypnotic sport I think. I love the game. I'll even watch the USFL when (if) it comes out. I don't like some of the sundry extra bullshit though, especially the politics and Pop culture stuff.....
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I was one of a few on this board that felt Mitch wasn't the problem.. Fukk Nagy!
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Its just all starting to wear very thin. Decades, Decades ! of f uckup, after f uckup after f uckup. I'll never feel the way I felt in 85. Its all gone for me. The nfl got woke, prices for everything simply skyrocketed the kneeling bull **** by millionares........enough. I have alot of other things to do with my time.
Yep, that pretty much sums it up... I'm like some of the rest of you, fed up with the constant fukk ups with this team. I'll always be a Bears fan, but it has all gotten old. I went to the Superbowl and saw the '85 Bears. Shook hands with Dan Hampton, Otis Wilson, Wilbur Marshall. I was proud to be a Bears fan. Now it's a joke, year after year...
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I'd also like to throw in a "fukk the McCaskeys"! I knew when they fired Ditka they sucked.. Look up who owns the Bears, It will say Aaron Rodgers.. WTF? Pathetic!!
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After they fired Ditka, we got a big dose of Dave Wannstedt... Thanks for nothing, Virginia..
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They let Jim Finks out the door when they should have been kissing his shoes
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DaBearsBlog
@dabearsblog
(Only GM that’s interviewed so far who’ll be called back in - potentially - is Glenn Cook. Bears liked him a lot.)
12:55 PM · Jan 14, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
Yes this is a Polian guy, gave Cook his 1st scouting job with the Colts over 10 years ago.
Experience
VP of Player Personnel, Cleveland Browns (2020-Present)
Assistant Director of Pro Scouting, Cleveland Browns (2016-19)
Pro scout, Green Bay Packers (2012-15)
Scouting assistant, Indianapolis Colts (2011-12)
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lol
@thedickbutkus (https://twitter.com/thedickbutkus/status/1481776412973486084)
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5:53 PM · Jan 13, 2022
FWIW, I do think it's actually him
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If I were hiring strictly on the rosters of the team they came from Cleveland wouldn’t be at the top of my list.
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Hoge: Why Bears need Rick Smith as general manager (https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-gm-search-why-rick-smith-most-qualified-candidate)
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Once Foles is done playing, you know he has a LOT to say about Nagy and the system. I am actually for keeping Foles for his final season. Relatively cheap for a backup, and appears to be a good teammate.
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I know the Bears have had some bad bad QB's but I am sure they haven't had worst QB's of all time.
Some QBs worse than the Bears have ever had...
Ryan Leaf
Jamarcus Russell
Tim Couch
Rich Campbell - #6 overall and never even started a game in the NFL
Akili Smith
Andre Ware - Three season total of 5 TDs.
Heath Shuler
Todd Marinovich
Brady Quinn
Steve Spurrier
Jack Thompson
Todd Blackledge
David Carr
Joey Harrington
David Klingler
Art Schlichter
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Oh I would disagree with that. Our list of duds is pretty impressive too.
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I'd also like to throw in a "fukk the McCaskeys"! I knew when they fired Ditka they sucked.. Look up who owns the Bears, It will say Aaron Rodgers.. WTF? Pathetic!!
I get that. And you can give me all these GM/HC names bantered about. But the number one game plan has to be beat the Pack. I dont care about anything else
If all we are going to get is a mediocre coach/GM forget it. Winning begins with beating the pack.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/13/bears-head-coach-job-early-favorites-brian-flores-todd-bowles-leslie-frazier/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1image&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c.
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-head-coach-general-manager-candidates-request-interviews/
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Eliot Wolfe looks to me as someone that definitely should get consideration, due to his association with the pack.
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Whoever the **** is in charge in the future gimme two gaurds two wide receivers and a defensive back.
The defense outside of the secondary if they all get on the same field at the same time is bulletproof.
Pace & Nagy on their way out the door got it right with Fields Jenkins & Borom.
The difference between Fields & Trubisky is the combat pedigree.
One of them has been thru the ringer and came out a vet on the other end.
The other was a flash in the pan at North Carolina.
We got the ringer. Protect him.
Lets move forward with this.
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We don't really know if those guys you mentioned JJ are going to stick. We hope they will, but all of them are still unproven. Fields has shown promise but he also has looked like Grossman at times. OTH the secondary has consistently sucked all season and needs much attention. Jackson has done a 180 and is headed towards the exit faster than he is turning into a consistent safety. Not to mention Hicks is probably gone and Goldman could be as well. Mack has spent more time watching than participating. We need lots of help and have very few picks to help.....
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Oh I would disagree with that. Our list of duds is pretty impressive too.
Where is your list of busts worse than those?
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Peter Tom Willis
Will Furrer
Rick Mirer
Steve Stenstrom
Henry Burris
Jonathon Quinn
Rex Grossman
Brian Griese
Todd Collins
Caleb Hanie
Jimmy Clausen
Mike Glennon
That's just to name a few of the sh!t QB's that have started for the Bears. They may not meet your definition of "Busts", but we've had nothing but trash at QB for ever.. Actually Cade McNown should be on the list, he was seriously a bust. Jay Cutler was an NFL caliber starting QB. Other than that? McMahon was the last QB we had, and he couldn't stay off the inury list...
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Come on man, PT Willis was the next Joe Montana. He just never got the chance to prove it. ;)
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I see Strahan b!tching on Fox about not enough black head coaches. So basically, he's saying, hire cause of skin color, not ability. No matter, we just want black head coaches.. WTF? I want the best person for head coach of the Bears, I don't give a fukk what his skin color is..
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He started by complaining about no black owners. Now, how is one supposed to change that?? Here's a billion dollars, go buy a football team?? Stupid.
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As for watching this game, I hate the fact that defensive players cannot even touch the QB anymore without getting a penalty. The roughing the passer call against the Eagles was pathetic, even the announcers agreed. Enough with the QB is untouchable crap. Used to be you'd nail the QB and get him rattled but can't hardly even touch the guy, especially one like Brady, without a penalty.
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The first NFL game I saw in person was Chargers vs Broncos and I think the Broncos QBwas Craig Morton.
After every one of his passes he was plastered by the Chargers. It didn’t seem to affect him at all.
If that game were played today there would be 30 roughing the passer penalties.
As for black head coaches, there are so many blacks in front offices and coaching staffs I really don’t see much of any racism issues.
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Peter Tom Willis
Will Furrer
Rick Mirer
Steve Stenstrom
Henry Burris
Jonathon Quinn
Rex Grossman
Brian Griese
Todd Collins
Caleb Hanie
Jimmy Clausen
Mike Glennon
That's just to name a few of the sh!t QB's that have started for the Bears. They may not meet your definition of "Busts", but we've had nothing but trash at QB for ever.. Actually Cade McNown should be on the list, he was seriously a bust. Jay Cutler was an NFL caliber starting QB. Other than that? McMahon was the last QB we had, and he couldn't stay off the inury list...
Right On, Amen, Case closed
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The Eagles are completely pathetic in this game. Hurts is playing terrible. I'm not at all impressed with him....
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Hurts looks like a faster, more athletic version of Trubisky, to be honest.....
Eagles out-coached and out-talented......
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Hurts looks like a faster, more athletic version of Trubisky, to be honest.....
Eagles out-coached and out-talented......
Sure. But they never quit in the game as far as I am concerned. They made the play-offs and will have 3 first round draft picks next year. They need to find a quarterback. Hey, they're Philly. Maybe they won't hold their nose to bringing Watson on board?
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-head-coach-general-manager-candidates-request-interviews/
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/16/bills-joe-schoen-very-interested-bears-general-manager-job/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
"Overall, it seems like Chicago is interested in the Bills organization as a whole, as they’re interviewing both offensive coordinator Brian Daboll and defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier."
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I was very happy to see Buffalo destroy the Patriots
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That was a royal ass-whooping the Bills put on the Patriots. You could almost feel the decades of frustration being vented....
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I was very happy to see Buffalo destroy the Patriots
Yep. they played about a perfect game all around.
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Got'em down and kept curb stomping em. Long time coming.
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None of the Names being thrown around for head coach thrill me. I wouldn't b!tch too much about Flores or Todd Bowles, but they're both D background coaches. I'd rather see an offensive background head coach along with Fangio brought back as D coordinator. The Bears need to get on with the hiring of a General Manager.
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That was a royal ass-whooping the Bills put on the Patriots. You could almost feel the decades of frustration being vented....
Yeah it will be fun to see the Bears not only beat but humiliate the Packers like they're supposed to soon....once Rodgers is gone.
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Again, I will repeat myself, any GM and coach hire should be geared to beating the Pack
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Not sure how you go about doing that. Do you just go heavy on defense to stop Rodgers?
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I cant remember Nagy beating the Pack more than once in his tenure
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Not sure how you go about doing that. Do you just go heavy on defense to stop Rodgers?
I think that it will be interesting how the officiating does in the Packers game. I still think that Goodell and company are going to punish Rodgers for his Covid stuff.
But conspiracy theory aside. I think that you have to score points to beat GB and that will require controlling the time of possession. It will take a mobile quarterback and good running back. Green Bay's defense doesn't get enough credit.
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You build a good team and you'll beat the Pack. This year it would have to be a very good team - Pack only lost 4 games.
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It'll end up being the Pack vs Bucs. The two top QB's dueling it out. It just shows the world, once again, how important a top flight QB is in the NFL. A team might as well auction off its entire draft to acquire one, they're that important.....
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It'll end up being the Pack vs Bucs.
It is sure looking that way. I dont see either of the west closet teams beating either Green Bay or Tampa.
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Am I correct in that we are sitting on +30 000 000 in cap space?
Am I correct that means we could hire two class A free agent GAURDS without breaking a sweat with boo koo coin left over?
WHICH : btw means we could go apeshiit for pure Deebo style WR & Secondary in the draft?
Somebody correct moi if I am wrong.
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I'd guess that with all their dead money I'd say you are wrong
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$34 million in cap space at the start of the new league year... I believe that begins in March.
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https://beardownreport.com/blog/making-sense-of-the-bears-cap-situation/
Breaks down the cap and some likely cuts/restructuring. They can have a lot of space, but lots of holes to fill
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Trevatan is gone. And I hate to say it but Goldman, who generally goes unnoticed but takes on blockers, was horrible last season. I think he's gone too, unless he takes a pay cut.
If Cohen is not healthy I think he gets cut. Use his money for Grant.
I'd keep Foles but may want to find a younger guy to compete with him. I don't know that they will cut Jackson - kind of hard to find a new FS, SS, CB and nickel back in one off season. Pay cut?
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Ed Werder
@WerderEdESPN
Source: #Bears planning second interview next week with #Colts DC Matt Eberflus for their head-coaching position.
10:51 AM · Jan 19, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
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Trevatan is gone. And I hate to say it but Goldman, who generally goes unnoticed but takes on blockers, was horrible last season. I think he's gone too, unless he takes a pay cut.
If Cohen is not healthy I think he gets cut. Use his money for Grant.
I'd keep Foles but may want to find a younger guy to compete with him. I don't know that they will cut Jackson - kind of hard to find a new FS, SS, CB and nickel back in one off season. Pay cut?
I think that the core of the defense has great possibilities other than the secondary which needs more help. I wonder if instead of jettisoning some of their higher priced guys that i have thought about that they keep their core great players and supplement them. I agree about Goldman and Cohen also.
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GM first please. Then HC. For the love of all that is holy don't **** this up Ted/George....
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Defense has a lot of contract holes. Trevathan is gone and I'm not sure Ogletree who is a FA will be re-signed. Hicks and Nichols are FAs and if Goldman is cut - there goes your starting d-line. Gipson the safety is a FA - he's serviceable. Corner and nickel are a mess with the rookie Graham looking like a possible keeper. Vildor, Burns, Christian and Shelley are backups.
OLB is the only position not in need of attention short term.
Offense. Maybe a lineman that could play inside or outside. And 2 WRs to go with Mooney and Daz Newsome.
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Is that Eberflus or Everflub? With this ownership I'd be willing to bet the latter.....
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Rolling at full speed for another disaster. You can just smell it. I'm sure, I'm sure there's a worse front office (Lions maybe ?) but the Bears are right there in the photo. Teddy is probably trying to get an NFL GM at CFL prices. Get the damn GM FIRST! Let them pick everyone else. For God's sake!
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Ouch:
The Bears reportedly have one less name to consider for their General Manager opening.
Tom Pelissero of NFL Media reports that Colts assistant G.M. Ed Dodds has told the team that he’s withdrawing his name from consideration. Dodds interviewed with the team earlier this week.
It’s not clear if Dodds is planning to remain with the Colts or if he’s putting full effort into landing another job. The Raiders requested permission to interview him for the vacancy created by Mike Mayock’s firing earlier this week.
The Bears have interviewed a number of candidates for the job since firing Ryan Pace after the end of the regular season. They are also looking for a new head coach and holding interviews for that position at the same time as they meet potential General Managers.
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I just heard hoge on the score. He said Dodds pulled out because Morocco Brown is thought to be the bears favored candidate from the colts. So he was already below brown in the candidate list and doesn't want to waste time.
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I think the only way bears hire a coach first is if it's an established guy like Harbaugh, Pederson or Flores. They would have the pull to pick their own front office.
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Well there goes my 1A. It's not the first time he withdrew himself from a GM job. Ballard probably told him to interview with the Bears just for **** and giggles.
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I just heard hoge on the score. He said Dodds pulled out because Morocco Brown is thought to be the bears favored candidate from the colts. So he was already below brown in the candidate list and doesn't want to waste time.
Interesting. It would be a blow to the ego to see someone under you have greater consideration for sure. Dabearsblog says Dodds bombed his interview FWIW.
I like Flores, but the only HCs I would even consider hiring before GM would be Harbaugh or Payton. Not likely but wouldn't it be so Bears to hire someone right before by some miracle those dudes become available.
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Wonder why the Bears didn’t fire Pace during the season? I can see possibly keeping Nagy on to get through the last few games but how much does a GM actually do at the end of the season. They could have fired Pace and started interviewing weeks ago.
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This is pure speculation on my part. But I believe that TedGeorge were so enamoured with Pace that Polian had to tell them to either cut bait or search for a new HC on your own.
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Flexibility: Previewing the 2022 Off-Season (Depth Chart, Free Agency, the Cap) (https://dabearsblog.com/2022/previewing-the-2022-off-season)
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Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero
Sounds like it’ll be the #Bears on Tuesday and the #Vikings on Wednesday for Ryan Poles — a finalist for both open NFC North GM jobs.
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
· 41m
Chiefs’ executive director of player personnel Ryan Poles, one of two finalists for the Vikings’ GM job, now is being asked to interview a second time for the Bears’ GM job, per league source.
9:01 AM · Jan 22, 2022
As a finalist for the Giants, he appears to be the flavor of this GM hiring cycle...
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Ya just never know. When Pace was hired I thought he was going to be good. Well he turned out to be a dud..
The real unraveling took place when they refused to build the O around Trubisky (including play calling), and had to draft another QB. I felt at the time Pace put his reputation and position on the line when he gave up the farm to get Mitch. Pace was too quick to give up draft picks..
I'm divided on the Mack deal. In hindsight, he wasn't worth it. Although, at the time it seemed like a good move..
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@MikeGarafolo
There's a lot of talk Bill Polian was pushing for a Matt Eberflus/Morocco Brown combo for the #Bears but Ryan Poles has absolutely impressed them. He's firmly in the mix.
@TomPelissero
Busy week ahead for the #Bears:
Monday: #Colts' Morocco Brown and #Steelers' Omar Khan interview for GM
Tuesday: #Chiefs' Ryan Poles second interview for GM, #Saints DC Dennis Allen interview for HC
Wednesday: #Colts DC Matt Eberflus second interview for HC
Heating up...
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You know we invented this fuccking game ...
shouldn't we be the best at it ?
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Seems like the weather was actually a neutralizer tonight.
Packers receivers couldn’t get open.
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Well this is as good as it gets lately for Bear fans.
Packers lose in the playoffs and Bears getting new leadership
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What suucks about BEARRSSE is here we go again ...
the QB and OL tackles are there.
Need of two guard's and wide recievers is obvious.
But who takes over and does what with them ?
As usual with our CHICAGO BEARS ... stay tuned.
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If this is 100% Polian with a meek ok from TedGeorge, then the Bears are angling toward Brown GM (interviewing today)/Eberflus HC/Caldwell OC...
If I was in charge, I would rocket Ted Phillips to Mars and hire Omar Khan as President of Football operations (interviewing today).
Then I would ask Harbaugh once and for all are you interested in winning a Super Bowl with the Chicago Bears and what GM would you like to work with.
If Harbaugh stays put or goes to LV, then I am ok with Brown or Poles as GM and letting them handle the HC hiring.
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Since all we have are rumors, there is talk of creating another layer between George and the GM and filling that with Khan. Then add Poles and Flores under him, and you have Yahtzee...
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The only hesitation I have about Flores is the OC issue. He burned thru them in MIA, and if he gets one who does well with Fields he will get hired away to be HC somewhere else.
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The only hesitation I have about Flores is the OC issue. He burned thru them in MIA, and if he gets one who does well with Fields he will get hired away to be HC somewhere else.
Should the HC hire an OC that doesn't work well with Fields so he doesn't get hired away?
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Poles does have ties with Flores. I would not mind a reunion of sorts with Flores/Caldwell OC if Caldwell doesn't get hired this cycle. And frankly at age 67 each year that passes makes it less likely he leaves for an HC gig and becomes a Tom Moore.
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And I know the reason we want to lean offensive guy as HC is because of the bullshit with Lovie and his musical chairs. Quinn pretty much nosedived after Shanny left. But McDermott isn't going to freak out. He's got Ken Dorsey ready to promote who is just as instrumental in Allen's success as Daboll. You just have to hope that the new coach knows and hires quality candidates that will bolster your staff on both sides of the ball...
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All I am going to say is this.....The Bears better crap of get off the pot. The right candidate isnt going to come out of the closet and make himself known. All of the good ones are going to get gobbled up quickly due to our
refusal to fire Nagy and company earlier. Lets get this hiring done and over with. We dont have to interview every Tom, Dick, and Harry.
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Mike Garafolo of NFLN reporting the Bears plan to sign Ryan Poles KC director players personnel as GM today
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It’s now official.
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Poles will have complete authority to pick his own coaches.
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Finally. Hooray! Whether good , bad, or otherwise we now have a GM.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/24/bears-head-coach-job-favorites-jim-caldwell-leslie-frazier-matt-eberflus/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
So Poles has been hired.
"Poles is close with fellow former Boston College football letterman Brian Flores, and Flores has already interviewed with the Bears, and Poles has been in touch with a number of other candidates for the Vikings and Bears jobs (Caldwell is one, Quinn, Todd Bowles and Kevin O’Connell are others). So just like Quinn is the big domino on the coaching side, Poles could be the next domino on the general manager side."
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It would be pretty damn ironic if Poles goes after and eventually nabs the very candidate that Pace reportedly wanted to hire before he had John one foot out the door Fox shoved down his throat.
Dan Quinn. I think I would rather have him than Caldwell right now...
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@dabearsblog
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Confirmed: Ryan Poles will conduct interviews with Caldwell, Quinn and Eberflus by end of day Wednesday. (Unsure if he’ll expand list.)
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And Poles should be leading these interviews. Polian's "work" is done as far as I'm concerned.
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And place a call to Harbough, just to make sure.
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Me no likee Hairball
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Lots of people dont like him, but he does win a lot.
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Interesting:
With no vacancies yet filled, there’s now another opening in the NFL.
According to multiple reports, Sean Payton informed the Saints on Tuesday that he’s stepping down as the team’s head coach.
Payton, 58, has been with the Saints since 2006, winning Super Bowl XLIV over the Colts. He compiled a 152-89 record in the regular season and a 9-8 record in the postseason.
Reports emerged on Sunday that Payton had not committed to coaching the team in 2022. Owner Gayle Benson admitted she was uncertain about Payton’s future on Monday. And an earlier Tuesday report indicated that Payton had spoken with G.M. Mickey Loomis for “a couple of hours” on Monday.
Now the Saints’ head coach has decided to step down.
While New Orleans could be a potential landing spot for several candidates, one in-house successor could be defensive coordinator Dennis Allen. He has drawn some interest from the Bears this month.
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I'd be 10 times more interested in Payton than Hairball
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Just to pass along the kool-aid this guy was a finalist for Carolina last year and the Giants and Queens this year. Even though he's only 36 years old, he has operated under 3 GMs, all of whom have Super Bowl winning pedigrees. So unlike Pace who has only known and worked under Mickey Loomis and his cap busting practices, IMO I think Poles is better prepared to take the lead job. Fingers crossed.
I have heard the chances of the Bears landing Payton is next to zero. Something to do with his negative perception of the Bears ownership. Golly gee whiz I find that hard to believe...
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A lot of people dont like Bear manmagement. Not a surprise Payton doesnt like them either
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What suucks about BEARRSSE is here we go again ...
the QB and OL tackles are there.
Need of two guard's and wide recievers is obvious.
But who takes over and does what with them ?
As usual with our CHICAGO BEARS ... stay tuned.
I do not think that the Offensive tackles are there.
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Mediocre George got conned to signing him over more qualified candidates by the Vikings. We'll see if this pans out but the record is not on George "Being There" McCasket is not good. Should have taken the Costanza route and do the opposite of what he wants to do :D
We got a new Ryan what are the odds he's probably going to get Matt Eberflus to HC because he then wont have to re-remember first names........
Hoping for the best, expecting the worst......
go bears....
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That would be kind of funny if our new GM was Ryan and our new HC was Matt. Well not really, but sort of.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-hire-new-gm-ryan-poles-kansas-city-chiefs
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Its groundhog day in Halas Hall. I was under the (false) impression that they wanted to hire a GM who had experience instead of being another OTJ training hire.
Lets look at the only GM who were experience they hired -Jim Finks. He came from the Vikings (I think), helped the Bears to be the 80s idols we all know and love and then went on to make the Saints relevant for the first time.
Lets look at all the other Bozos who were not previously GMs they hired and their success. Well that's just too depressing a list for this early in the morning but as we all know, its all the others.....
Now maybe this new Ryan works out. Lets see who his HC is. Probably another "meh" hire. But hang on its going to be a hell of a ride for sure..... :D
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My first reaction on the Ryan P. hire is meeehhh.
36 years old and spent all his time in player personal with one team the last 13 years.
Sounds a lot like Ryan Pace hire. It took Pace two years to become a decent GM; which by the way I believe he is. Problem now is did we upgrade or go side ways or maybe even went down a bit at GM?
Obviously I am not an NFL insider so who really knows, but my early reaction is I am not impressed.
I am hoping for coaching hire with experience. If we get first year head coach, I think it will be a longer road to any type of winning.
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Out of the 3 interviewing yesterday and today, I would hold my nose, cover my eyes and pick Quinn. But I REALLY hope Poles expands that HC list a bit.
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https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/bears/ct-chicago-bears-matt-eberflus-coaching-search-20220126-e7ib26vuwfg6tcfckwkzy2iriu-story.html
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My choice was Rick Smith. That franchise was going nowhere and he got them going. And look at how it all fell apart when he left (he left because he wanted to care for his sick wife, I believe). Whoever gets him I think is getting another "Finksian" candidate (although I think Finks coached somewhere- college or CFL or something- I should probably look it up like seven (SEVEN) long painful years ago).
I got a bad feeling about this. Please. PUUHLEEESE let me be wrong.....
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Well at least the Chiefs got two third round picks for developing a minority GM.
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All the NFL so called experts really like the hire.
He learned under good talent evaluators and looks to have the leadership qualities needed.
Hopefully he really does get to find his own coach.
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Yeah, I read Smith isn't coming back for awhile, he's widowed now, and has a teenage girl to raise. Good luck with that, teenage boys are bad enough. I read he's a good guy, has his priorities right, and is taking care of the family. He would have IMO a great GM for the Bears. Instead, another trainee. All these football guys the Bears drag in IMO are just chumping the Bears and paying off old football favors.
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Hard to hire experienced guys because if they are any good they are already employed. The guys that aren’t employed weren’t successful so you almost have to hire someone as a promotion.
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I did read an article that the Bears talked to Harbaugh but it didn’t go very far be cause he was looking for a Gruden type deal 10Y/100M and the Bears weren’t willing to go that far.
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Can Poles put his pole in G.B.'s ass and beat them with draft picks ?
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/report-bears-head-coach-hire-should-be-coming-soon
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Quinn went 43-42 with the Falcons. Why bring him here unless we want more mediocrity and 7-8 win seasons?? I don't believe there's much hope in finding the right HC....
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How was Caldwell's record with the Lions? Do we want that either?
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Quinn is a popular candidate because of his leadership and turning the Falcons around. He’s known as an innovator.
He’s also has some huge question marks and failures.
He has a lot of support in the NFL because many believe he’s learned from his mistakes
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I am fine with Quinn. He has experience and will be able to attract really good coordinators and position coaches. Also he has a reputation of not messing with his OC, so you get really talented OC's that want to work with him.
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John Fox had experience too. That's what worries me...nothing seems to work or fit here....
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/who-ryan-poles-chicago-bears-new-gm
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The Bears are hiring Colts defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus as their head coach, Jason Lieser and Patrick Finley of the Chicago Sun-Times reports. T
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Didn't they prematurely announce BA as head coach way back when?
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So they went from Matt and Ryan to.....Matt and Ryan. There's got to be a joke there somewhere.....probably on us....
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Groundhog day.....
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The Bears are hiring Colts defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus as their head coach, Jason Lieser and Patrick Finley of the Chicago Sun-Times reports. T
Colt fans are jumping up and down. They say good riddance
OH no not another bad hire?
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Yuck, I feel like this is a guy they settled on, Polian fingerprints and all. I could live with Caldwell as OC, but...yuck.
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Colts fans dont like Everflub because he was a YES man.
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Who cares what they think. Let's just judge on results now.
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I wonder if Dan Quinn saying he is staying in Dal, and Matt part 2 was the second choice....
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The OC is more important to me.
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Out with the old Matt and Ryan. In with the new Matt and Ryan.
I hope we don't see a revolving door at OC now that we have a Defensive HC. You know if Fields and the OC are successful that is what is going to happen.
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At least it wasn't Caldwell. Although, put me down as a skeptic..
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If we could add a really good OC that can get our offense clicking, maybe with this hire we could get our D back to prominence..
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I am fine if the OC is successful enough to be an HC candidate because that would mean that Fields is good and preparation for the playoffs is on the horizon. It is Flus job to make sure that the offensive language and philosophy remain consistent whether they promote from within or hire outside. It is Poles job to find the players and blockers that can sustain consistent offensive success. Vrabel is chugging along by promoting from within after losing 2 OCs to HC jobs. McDermott might just do the same with Ken Dorsey after Daboll leaves. Turnover is just a reality in the NFL and hopefully it is based on success rather than failure.
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Trace Armstrong is the agent for Ryan Poles, Matt Eberflus, and...Joe Brady. So maybe Armstrong is the man pulling the strings after all...
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With Fields on the table, the OC hire is the most important hire the last 30 years.
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OC is very important. I agree. And one thing I like about Poles is he was an OT in college. Maybe he knows something about drafting Olinemen to protect Fields.
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Unfortunately, zero confidence in the man who's mom thinks he's doing a good job running the team into the ground.....
Very dissapointed. With so many experienced folks out there. Mediocrity thy name is Bears.....
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@GeoffMosherNFL
NFL SOURCES tell @caplannfl and @GeoffMosherNFL New #Bears GM Ryan Poles expected to target #Eagles dir. of player personnel Ian Cunningham (https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/front-office/ian-cunningham) for high-ranking front office job in Chicago.
Cunningham, who’s been with Eagles for five years, and Poles are said to be close.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/hoge-6-bears-offensive-coordinators-matt-eberflus-hire
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Matt and Ryan, Matt and Ryan. Coincidence? I say they must have a box of Members Only jackets laying around that are already monogrammed Matt or Ryan to use up.
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Regarding OC and the coaches under him, it will be interesting what philosophy Flus and Poles will choose. Will it be the KC/Philly concepts that Fields already learned under Nagy but could be better called and executed under another coach like Kafka or Peterson? Or will it be the Shanny/McVeigh tree with Kevin O'Connell or Mike McDaniel who are OC in name only because the HC above them calls the plays? I feel like the Shanny system will be more beneficial with the roll outs and play action for Fields and the zone blocking could enhance Monty's skills more.
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Run the ball. On "ordinary" passing plays, get the ball out quickly. Use play action to take shots down the field.
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Good grief NO:
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/former-bears-lance-briggs-peanut-tillman-campaign-new-dc-hire
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LB coach Dave Borgonzi (https://www.colts.com/team/coaches-roster/dave-borgonzi) expected to join Bears staff.
Pep Hamilton interviews either today or tomorrow with Poles for OC per Kaplan (https://twitter.com/thekapman/status/1487090961868115969). He was QB coach for the Bears when Poles had a cup of coffee with the Bears as UDFA in 2008. He worked with Luck, Herbert, and even Davis Mills played well down the stretch under his coaching...
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New Bears Coach Eberflus Targets Getsy as Potential Coordinator (https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/new-bears-coach-eberflus-targets-getsy-as-potential-coordinator)
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/28/report-luke-getsy-has-offer-to-be-bears-offensive-coordinator/
Packers quarterbacks coach/passing game coordinator Luke Getsy got a head coaching interview with the Broncos, but the job wound up going to another member of Matt LaFleur’s staff when Denver hired Nathaniel Hackett this week.
Getsy could still be on the move from Green Bay, however, and he may not be leaving the NFC North. Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports that Getsy has an offer to join new Bears head coach Matt Eberflus’ staff as their offensive coordinator.
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The more I read about the new HC the better I feel about it. It still doesn't change my mind that the only real way forward is to get the ghoulish McCasket hands off the controls of this somewhat floundering franchise and into someone elses......
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I hate to sound optimistic but I'm getting there with this....not there yet....
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I dread seeing the Tampa 2 defense again.
DBs playing way off the ball and bend but don’t break defense. Yeah yeah he’ll run a hybrid and all that rhetoric.
As for Getsy 2 years as Aaron Rogers QB coach? He’s pretty Green. Pep Hamilton at least has a resume.
I think Eberflus better take some time with this.
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As for Getsy 2 years as Aaron Rogers QB coach? He’s pretty Green. Pep Hamilton at least has a resume.
I think Eberflus better take some time with this.
Most teams looking for OCs can choose from failed past OCs or up and coming QB coaches who have never called plays.
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Per Wiederer
Houston Texans passing game coordinator Pep Hamilton, meanwhile, was set to meet with the Bears about a job on the coaching staff. It is unclear whether Hamilton was being sought as a potential coordinator or courted to join the team as a quarterbacks coach with additional responsibilities.
I can live with both on the staff...
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Just say no to the Tampa 2..
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Definitely
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Groundhog Day ! :D
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/report-bears-offer-luke-getsy-offensive-coordinator-job
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/28/bears-matt-eberflus-coaching-staff-dave-borgonzi-james-rowe/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/27/chicago-bears-head-coach-matt-eberflus-releases-statement/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos2headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
I hope Eberflus knows that he isnt winning NFL championships here if he cant beat the Pack FIRST. To me that has to be priority #1.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/27/bears-offensive-coordinator-search-matt-eberflus-shanahan-tree/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos3headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
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Per DBB rumor, Joe Brady is in the running for QB coach. If not Pep, I'm fine with that...
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Per DBB rumor, Joe Brady is in the running for QB coach. If not Pep, I'm fine with that...
https://sports.yahoo.com/tom-brady-announces-retirement-upstages-203905087.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
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@AdamHoge
This has been in the works and would be an elevated position/title the #Bears didn’t have before. Like Poles, Cunningham is a former offensive lineman.
@RapSheet
The #Bears are hiring Ian Cunningham as their new assistant GM, source says. A top lieutenant for Ryan Poles, and now the #Eagles lose a key front office member.
4:55 PM · Jan 29, 2022
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Let's stop fuucking around here ... we need pushing GAURDS drafted to spring Fields & the backfield.
Either Poles & Eberflus look at last years game tapes & see that for a fact or here we go again about how we got a new idea ...
& last year is out the window ... our ideas are better.
Maybe they will be ... maybe they won't.
What their philosophy will be in the draft is the answer on draft day.
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The GM and the Asst GM are both ex- offensive linemen. Where do you think their focus will be?
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I hope you I & them are thinking the same way we are thinking.
I need a QB with enough time to toss it downfield or throw it into the grandstands.
I like the first option but I absolutely positively need pushing GAURDS to give the option of TOSS - RUN -or DISCARD.
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If we had an O line, fix the d backs, we could compete...
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..............Except for one thing, we seem to be going back to 4/3 instead of continuing 3/4 with new HC.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/28/bears-interviewing-alan-williams-defensive-coordinator-job/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
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If we had an O line, fix the d backs, we could compete...
No shiit we aren't that far away from being complete.
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Bears need to find their Cooper Kupp this off season.
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How about a Kupp/Deebo hibred?
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https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-fans-react-bears-hiring-195506500.html
Apparently Getsy has accepted Bears offer.
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Ideally, you want to keep Getsy with Fields for at least 2 years. If/when Getsy moves on as HC, that would mean that Fields has proven himself to be good to great and scheme proof which would make it much easier to find a OC replacement.
Worse case, if Fields sucks ass, it will be groundhog day again, Poles will survive and get the chance to find another coach/QB, and Eberflus and his merry men are history. But boy that new stadium will be beautiful.
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The GM and the Asst GM are both ex- offensive linemen. Where do you think their focus will be?
I cant say what their focus will be but I know where I HOPE it will be.
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Presser at Noon EST
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Found this interesting:
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-hire-luke-getsy-matt-eberflus-reportedly-steals-new-oc-packers
I hope they give this guy some leyway to call the offensive plays
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"We're going to take the North and never give it back," Poles said
Thats what I love to hear. Thats near and dear to my heart. He knows that starts with beating the Pack
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-ryan-poles-well-take-north-and-never-give-it-back
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"We're going to take the North and never give it back," Poles said
Thats what I love to hear. Thats near and dear to my heart. He knows that starts with beating the Pack
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-ryan-poles-well-take-north-and-never-give-it-back
One thing that would help that along, the departure of Aaron Rodgers..
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/chicago-bears-press-conference-matt-eberflus-ryan-poles-address-media-first-time
Hope some of you Chicagoans catch that
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/chicago-bears-press-conference-matt-eberflus-ryan-poles-address-media-first-time
Hope some of you Chicagoans catch that
You can listen to it in the Audacy app on the score
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I dont have or use apps on my phone
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I dont have or use apps on my phone
Ok but if you wanted to you could listen and hear a lot of interesting Bears talk all day.
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LOL, he gets his Bears news from USA Today…he’s not into “interesting”…
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-matt-eberflus-ryan-poles-establish-identity-future-team.
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If we could round this out by getting Fangio back that would be great !
Or has he already signed elsewhere ?
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If we could round this out by getting Fangio back that would be great !
Or has he already signed elsewhere ?
I haven't heard if he has. But with our HC already having a strong defensive background (with 4-3) I don't think Fangio would want to come here.
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If Alan Williams falls through, I would not mind Marinelli as DC or DL coach if McD doesn't retain him at LV...
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Desai gone
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@AlbertBreer
The Bears are interviewing ex-Panthers offensive coordinator Joe Brady today for a position on their staff, per sources.
2:05 PM · Feb 1, 2022
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From the Athletic
“It agitates me to see a quarterback get hit and be on the ground — and I watch the five guys and their body language,” Poles told a small group of reporters from The Athletic, The Bigs and the Barber’s Chair Network after his introductory news conference along with new coach Matt Eberflus.
“If I see my guy on the ground, I’m running over there, getting him up, making sure he’s clean, ready to go. I don’t know if I saw that enough in the tape that I watched, and that’s critical. And also to protect your guy. If you see something cheap, something dirty, you need to set the tone that that’s not gonna happen, because if you do let it happen once, it’s going to happen over and over and next thing you know, your quarterback is hurt. So that (nastiness) mentality is critical and is something we need to add.”
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They talked about that during Big Ben's struggles...
He'd get pummeled repeatedly - and none of his linemen came over to help him up...
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@AdamSchefter
Bears are hiring Colts’ safeties coach Alan Williams as their defensive coordinator, per sources.
11:59 AM · Feb 2, 2022
Bears hire Morgan as offensive line coach (https://www.chicagobears.com/news/bears-hire-chris-morgan-as-offensive-line-coach)
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@AdamSchefter
Bears are hiring Colts’ safeties coach Alan Williams as their defensive coordinator, per sources.
11:59 AM · Feb 2, 2022
Bears hire Morgan as offensive line coach
(https://www.chicagobears.com/news/bears-hire-chris-morgan-as-offensive-line-coach)
Anybody know anything about him ?
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How about getting the right guys upfront so we don't see the 'guy on the ground and run to pick him up' like Leno?.....
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Anybody know anything about him ?
Nothing except he was the safetys coach of the Colts. Woo Hoo!
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/02/02/bears-hire-alan-williams-defensive-coordinator-coaching-staff/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
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Sounds like we are going to have rookies at every coaching position.
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This could be a very painful year of growing pains. I wonder how long until the calls of "Fire George" start coming out when the honeymoon is over. It should be quite a roller-coaster ride at least....
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As I stated a few weeks ago. There is little patience left with the fan base... It won't take long for the pitchforks and tar and feathers to come out...
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True dat, lol. Dem pitchforks is nasty
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I figure after this Bear group fall in the pit, I can go root for the Washington Commies. How fitting a name for that greasy group of people. Yes, I'm being cynical about the Bears but have been a fan of the Bear for so long its just become the norm : 1. cautious optimism. 2. good draft. 3. good first season. 4. explosion and down in flames, with the whole team hurt. Rinse, repeat. As has been stated before, the only constant for decades has been the owners and the Tedster. Need to sell.
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Agreed. You want to be optimistic but with this ownership and lengthy history that's impossible. Most Bears fans would say give it a couple years and the fail begins.....again....
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Drafting has been horrible for years. That needs to change. Lately, either we trade away our number 1's, or we blow the pick..
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Looks like we have been busy hiring our coaching staff:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/02/03/bears-hire-andrew-janocko-tyke-tolbert-david-overstreet/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos2headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/02/02/bears-hiring-tyke-tolbert-wide-receivers-coach-passing-game-coordinator/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos2headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
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Seems like raiding the Indy pantry is heavy duty with Eberflus.
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Heard an interview with an Indy reporter on the Eberfluss defense.
He basically described the Lovie defense.
Gives up yards, DB’s play off the receivers. Bend don’t break. Force field goal instead of touchdown.
Doesn’t work unless you have the really good 3 technique tackle.
I didn’t like it then so not looking forward to it.
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The only way it works is if you are forcing turnovers. When you don't force turn overs, Your offense better be scoring TD's.
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That defense only worked when Tommie Harris was healthy.
I remember it had big gaps in coverage for easy completions.
Drove me crazy.
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The slant was open all day long. Patient offenses killed them.
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That was one of the biggest reasons I wanted Lovie gone..
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That was one of the biggest reasons I wanted Lovie gone..
Well that and having Ron Turner as OC for 5 years followed by Mike Martz.
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...and Terry "B-" Shea who led the lowest scoring offense in the NFL. The O-line gives up over 100 sacks (https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-sacks-allowed-by-the-bears-in-a-season-in-the) over 2 seasons so yeah let's promote Mike Tice as OC.
Regarding the Tampa-2/Flus D, this was Matt Bowen's take (https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/bears/ct-cb-chicago-bears-brad-biggs-10-thoughts-20220204-lb6uwvdlcndrtnku6crxigewum-story.html) on the Trib...
“There is a misconception about his defense,” Bowen said. “Kind of pegged as a Cover-2, zone-heavy defense, keep the ball in front of you and play top down. Do they still play some Cover-2? Sure. He’s adapted tremendously based on the tape I have watched over the last two seasons. Much more multiple in terms of their fronts and alignment. He will scheme pressures. He will mug up his linebackers to try to create matchup advantages from a pass-rush perspective and also to make the quarterback work post-snap. A lot of late rotation from that second level to get underneath zone droppers into throwing lanes. What they did this year I thought was very cool is they started turning into a much more man-heavy defense on third down. Not just man but man with pressure and again, you’re talking about a base Cover-2 coach adapting and doing different things to, in my opinion, keep up with offensive trends in the NFL, to attack the quick game, to make the quarterback feel pressure and to create unnecessary movement in the pocket. They’re not super complicated on defense. But they do enough to be multiple and fit today’s trends and schemes in the NFL. They do a lot more late movement than people expect, so they haven’t recreated Lovie Smith’s defense. I think people are trying to look at it that way. Can he coach? Based on what he did in Indianapolis, yeah, he can coach on the defensive side of the ball. As a head coach? I can’t answer that. I’m not in the meeting room with him.”
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Do I believe this? NO.
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/02/06/bears-potential-landing-spot-amari-cooper-cowboys-free-agency/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
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Bears should be able to draft wr David Bell from Purdue in the 2nd round, that's an easy fix.
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Guards & WR's ... gimme two of each!
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I think I'd rather have a bonifide left tackle first. Lets see what our GM does first. OGs can be had later in the draft.
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I think I'd rather have a bonifide left tackle first. Lets see what our GM does first. OGs can be had later in the draft.
I agree with you assuming that a good one is available. Maybe they can make a good trade for another 2nd or 3rd round pick(s) also and pick up a tall fast receiver also?
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Guard or tackle, we need em... and wideout will be in the mix as well as should corner and safety.
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I agree with this in principal. But words are just words. This sure sounds like a good start in the right direction:\
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/02/07/bears-building-offense-around-justin-fields-matt-eberflus-luke-getsy/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
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wr is the #1 priority. You start 3, we have one.
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You could say the same for CB…
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Or Offensive left tackle.
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you don't start 3 left OTs.
you do start 3 wrs, and half the plays you start 3 cbs.
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I get what you are saying but You might need to replace all 3 of your OTs. Heres why:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-offensive-line-grades-2021-cody-whitehair-james-daniels/?itm_source=parsely-api
The line grades dont look good. The line needs to be rebuilt.
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And if your WRs can actually block someone - your OL doesn't have to work as hard to keep your QB alive
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Including teaching our TEs to block properly as well....
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Defense wins championships. Offense needs to score, but getting into a shootout never ends well with the Bears. We need to get our D back to respectability. Our D was never the same after Fangio left...
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D looked good after the offense stayed on the field for drives that lasted longer than 4 plays
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I remember saying the D wouldn't be nearly as good without Fangio and some mocked that. It was and still is, true....
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I need guards who can push the d-line back and open holes for Monty & Fields to break for some open field running.
if you have guards who can plant dt's & nt's then you have the freedom to control the passing game as long as our two recently drafted tackles do what they were drafted for.
We can draft amillion wr's but they are bat shiit useless if your qb is staring at sky from being sacked.
I know the trenches are boring but its where it all starts at.
Gaurd
Gaurd
WR
WR/CB
CB
In any order.
Five fuucking draft picks ... there's probably a team out there with ten draft picks who will fuuck every one of them up.
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I think I read somewhere that the Colts defense played nickel 71% of the time this past season.
CB is a top priority.
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I think I read somewhere that the Colts defense played nickel 71% of the time this past season.
CB is a top priority.
I would tend to agree. But at least Bears have some depth with Graham, Shelley, Vildor and Burns. Not very good depth but numbers. Problem is Bears need a starting CB AND a nickel.
WR is in much worse shape depth wise. Mooney and the rookie Daz Newsome. There's also that PS guy who had an excellent preseason. But Rodney Adams had a drop in one game and disappeared.
As for offensive line. I think they need to draft or sign an interior guy and shuffle things around. I think Borom is OK, not so sure of Jenkins. Mustipher gets a lot of bad press. Daniles is a FA.
All 3 of these positions Bears could target with draft picks in round 1 2 and 3. Even with a first rounder - you can't expect a draft to fill these holes and there are more on the d-line, linebacker and safety.
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This sounds so sweet. Lets hope anyways:
https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2022/02/10/wide-receiver-is-bears-top-priority-in-free-agency-gallup-valdes-scantling-and-others-among-the-realistic-targets/
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It appears that we are sitting on +$28,649,726.00 in capspace with $3,259,595.00 in dead money.
G.B. is -$50,790,970.00 in capspace with $732,901.00 in dead money.
Heh ... heh heh ... heh heh heh!
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When this purge began I was worried things would go so slowly we wouldnt have been able to get good coaches. Its looking more and more like we are getting the "pick of the litter" so to speak.
That makes me happy and encouraged for a good season this year. Now its Poles's job to acquire the talent necessary.
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The good thing about the hirings being complete is now all the coaches and Poles and look through tape of what we have and get the scouts input on the draft to be well prepared for draft day and free agency.
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I found this interesting. And NO I dont believe Lightfoot suddenly got smarter:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2022/2/11/22929277/lightfoot-soldier-field-chicago-bears-arlington-heights
"Necessity is the mother of invention" That seems to be a better answer. The city will lose a lot of revenue should the Bears move to Arlington Heights.
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And possibly cost Lightfoot her re-election
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Won't matter. They'll just elect another fool that spouts platitudes, pads their own pockets and spends their money. Until they wake up, its more of the same......
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Anyone who thinks the voters have a choice in Cook County are kidding themselves. Those elections are rigged from the get go.
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Yeah. Crook County....
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Anyone who thinks the voters have a choice in Cook County are kidding themselves. Those elections are rigged from the get go.
sure are.
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When you are more fuucked up about politics then CHICAGO BEARS on this thread ...
THEY FUUCKIN OWN YOU.
You forgot what it is like to be a HUMAN ... instead of a color or a religion or a political affiliation.
Doesn't it suuck to be you ?
You could wake up tomorrow morning and educate the rest of the planet up to your level ...
but nahhh that's not going to happen.
It's HUMAN NATURE to be ****.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/02/17/chicago-bears-nfl-free-agency-fit-brian-allen/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
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https://newarena.com/nfl/predicting-where-the-top-32-nfl-free-agents-will-sign/8/?amxt=2022_dt_cntnt9_4
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We are not hurting at cap space , alot can be done before the draft.
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We are not hurting at cap space , alot can be done before the draft.
We CAN have a whole new Oline for you Jackie
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Poles first move:
The Bears have added some depth at linebacker for their offseason roster.
Chicago announced on Tuesday that the club has signed Noah Dawkins.
Dawkins entered the league as an undrafted free agent out of The Citadel in 2019, originally signing with the Bengals. The Buccaneers signed him off of Cincinnati’s practice squad during that season and he played 10 games for Tampa Bay as a rookie.
The Bucs waived him in 2020 and Dawkins landed with the Jets. He appeared in seven games for New York over the last two seasons, spending much of the 2021 season on the practice squad.
Dawkins has mainly played special teams in his young career. He’s appeared in 17 games and made three total tackles.
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This is more interesting than Dawkins.
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/chicago-bears-free-agent-targets-ryan-poles
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/anthony-miller-backs-allen-robinson-bears-sabotage-theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTlDjZnzY0s
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When you get down to it with our cap space signing two guard's isn't all that hard.
We are not talking Quentin Nelson type guard's of course ... but something that can last for 17 games and then some if they do their jobs without fuucking up.
Hey ! That means we could walk into draft day with 3 WR's and 2 CB's on our minds ... or vice versa.
What do you think the NFC NORF will look like after the draft and can we advance beyond it into the playoffs ?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Why is it some people are upset enough to want 47 new guards when OT is the most important along with a solid strong center?
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We drafted two OT's last year. Everybody was happy with moving Daniels to Center.
Now what are you pissed about ?
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JJ - Would you release Whitehair, and do you think we have an answer to one (or both) of our tackle positions with either Jenkins or Borom?
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They need to evaluate ALL positions along the OLine. Nobody should be considered safe
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And we havent really seen Daniels play C effectively, we dont know if he can.
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heard where Nagy got a job going back to kc. Once your in the loop, you never suffer for your errors. Other people and the fans do.
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They need to evaluate ALL positions along the OLine. Nobody should be considered safe
I think that they need at least one veteran very good left tackle and a good center unless they move Whiteside to center. Then they would need a guard.
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I think that they need at least one veteran very good left tackle and a good center unless they move Whiteside to center. Then they would need a guard.
Or Daniels to center. Definitely a bonifide LOT. My problem and likely the Bears problem is that moneywise center is the least expensive position. LOT is the most expensive. You just dont pay your center LOT money.
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Jenkins and Borom never had enuff time to be evaluated.
What the hell I do remember is Jenkins going to war to protect Fields.
Getting the penalty's but standing up for his QB.
Baby I want a LT that throws punches to protect his QB.
It might be stupid as a rookie but it shows HEART.
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What are you saying Jackie?
Jenkins and Borom never had enuff time to be evaluated.
Are you saying replace the rest of the line and go into the 2022 season to find out what you have? I hope not. Its too late come training camp to realize Jenkins or Borom arent quality OTs like you hope they are.
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I'd like to see something like this:
LT: veteran FA 13 mil + (bears biggest FA add)
LG: Daniels
C: 2nd or 3rd rounder
RG: 2nd or 3rd tier FA (5-8 mil)
RT: Jenkins/Borom contest
swing: RT competition loser
Barrs, young G or C
C and the one G position are interchangeable in where you get those guys. Id prefer the C be the veteran. Whitehair is cut. Ifedi and Peters walk. Mustipher can come to camp.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-free-agency-offensive-linemen-help-justin-fields/?itm_source=parsely-api
We certainly could do worse than re-sign Jenkins. We certainly need help badly
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-2022-nfl-free-agency-preview-andy-dalton/?itm_source=parsely-api
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What are you saying Jackie?
Jenkins and Borom never had enuff time to be evaluated.
Are you saying replace the rest of the line and go into the 2022 season to find out what you have? I hope not. Its too late come training camp to realize Jenkins or Borom arent quality OTs like you hope they are.
Once again who made up any mind about OT's that played shiit amount of time to make a judgement?
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I thot we all had agreed about Jenkins ,Borom , Danials ... staying put and going with gaurds.
Are you suggesting that we go for OT's ? I mean c'mon dude we have X amount of coin ...
how long do we keep this turnstile going until all fans are satiated ?
My idea however far out it sounds about offensive line ...
is to keep the goddammn quarterback from being planted into the the shitty turf at Soldiers Field.
Hey ! Fields plays at Soldiers Fields!
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What are you saying Jackie?
Jenkins and Borom never had enuff time to be evaluated.
Are you saying replace the rest of the line and go into the 2022 season to find out what you have? I hope not. Its too late come training camp to realize Jenkins or Borom arent quality OTs like you hope they are.
Well that's what I questioned last year but Bears management penciled in Jenkins at LT with no tackle on the roster with NFL game experience at the position.
Bears don't have the cap to invest in a $20M plus FA LT but they can be active in the next tier.
I saw the list of FA centers and a couple of those guys who are 26/27 should be considered but not Jensen who is almost 31.
Don't know why Whitehair is so unpopular. He's under contract and I don't think cutting him helps the cap.
Bring in a true LT. Let Jenkins and Borom battle it out for RT. You can even re-sign Daniels if you don't sign a FA center to replace Mustipher. If Jenkins is the real deal he can move to LT later in his career.
And if you really want to improve the O-line get Fields to recognize pressure and identify his outlet receivers. Blame Fields and Nagy for a lot of those sacks last year.
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If you bring in quality gaurds ... doesn't that automatically make the OT's and Center better ?
How could it not ?
MEANWHILE ...
Lets move on to the other two issues ...
WIDE RECEIVER and CORNERBACK.
Can someone tell me again why we let Fuller go ?
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Borom can probably play right guard. That was the original plan.
It was never clear why Daniels was moved to guard. Some said Mitch didn’t like the way he snapped the ball.
Hopefully they will revisit Daniels at center.
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If you bring in quality gaurds ... doesn't that automatically make the OT's and Center better ?
I dont think it works that way. A sieve is still a sieve. Its why a good left tackle is so pricy.
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First priority on the OL is to fix the center position. If the pocket is consistently collapsing right in the QB's face, he has no chance. Mustipher is probably a very nice guy who loves his family and donates to charity, but he is not a viable OL starter on a good team.
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What's baffling is Kreutz promoting Mustipher as a quality center. Ok, so he can read the D and set the line up for blocking. Problem is at the snap he's shoved back into the QB time and time again and unable to keep his stance. Reading a D is great...you need to be able to block that D as well.
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Kruetz is friends with him. They work out together.
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That surely doesnt make him a quality center because they workout together.
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What's amazing is that outside of cornerback no one is saying we need anything at defense. :D
Pretty narrow focused about needs. I believe we all know what the problem is.
And how to solve it.
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What's amazing is that outside of cornerback no one is saying we need anything at defense. :D
Pretty narrow focused about needs. I believe we all know what the problem is.
And how to solve it.
Need to replace Trevathan and Goldman if they release him. Don’t know how many others on the DL are signed.
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Aside from WR offense has bodies to plug into the starting lineup - even on the O-line.
Same can't be said for defense.
Who plays LB with Smith? Who plays safety? Who is the nickel? Who is the LCB?
Who are the starting DTs - Nichols and Hicks are FAs. Goldman is a 3-4 NT coming off a mediocre at best year. Tonga impressed but he's a NT too but could figure in at DT. Blackson and Mario Edwards are under contract too.
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Interested to see what Thomas Graham really is. He looked solid against the Vikings, and then Nagy put him back on the shelf. Not really sure why, but then Nagy...
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Nagy had the chance to evaluate Jenkins, Newsome as well as Graham, but went with vets instead to win today as he knew there might not be a tomorrow.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/03/bears-christian-watson-have-met-twice-pre-nfl-draft-process/
Good read
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I'm seeing the combine workouts and saying that dudes draftable and then realizing ... what draft picks for BEARRSSE ?
Shiit. >:(
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Pace dealt picks away like they were stale candy...
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It's not out of the question that with a +26,000,000 dollar salary cap surplus and five meager draft picks we could with the right braintrust at Halas Hall solve all of our problems before May 1st.
That would be a first. 8)
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As I've mentioned before. The fan base will not be patient. There's one thing, WIN! And that means beat the Packers. They're not going to keep fans coming back just because they're rotating new coaches in and out. There has been one constant during all these years of ineptness, the owners. Of course I always hope for the best, but I have little reason to believe that much will change (hope I'm wrong).. A lot depends on the progress of Fields, and whether or not the defense can get back to form. Draft picks have plagued this team for years. Once again, we have limited picks. We've been making the playoffs occasionally, just enough to keep us from being the equivalent of the Lions..
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As I've mentioned before. The fan base will not be patient. There's one thing, WIN! And that means beat the Packers. They're not going to keep fans coming back just because they're rotating new coaches in and out. There has been one constant during all these years of ineptness, the owners. Of course I always hope for the best, but I have little reason to believe that much will change (hope I'm wrong).. A lot depends on the progress of Fields, and whether or not the defense can get back to form. Draft picks have plagued this team for years. Once again, we have limited picks. We've been making the playoffs occasionally, just enough to keep us from being the equivalent of the Lions..
Good post. I agree totally with what you said. I just hope that this new administration does one major thing and that is to build a quality offensive line. No more 7th round fat guys with bad feet and no punch.
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Good post. I agree totally with what you said. I just hope that this new administration does one major thing and that is to build a quality offensive line. No more 7th round fat guys with bad feet and no punch.
Abaloodlly ! This fuucking around with OFFENSIVE LINE (until last year) as a constant afterthought throughout BEARRSSE history in the 21fst century has led to the QB parade who never had a chance.
With Fields this time we did the RIGHT trade up and the next two picks were to protect his rookie asss.
Now I need to see how those two rookie draft picks play out because I don't know yet and neither do you.
Are we going with Daniels at Center and if so then we need two Guards and shiit howdy ! WE are set if we get Quality!
Whooa ... holy shiit ... hold on there motherfuucker ... JJ are you saying that if we had a COMPLETE OFFENSIVE LINE THAT GREW UP TOGETHER ...
We ... We ... WE ... could go beyond the first round of the playoffs ?
You said it I didn't. :o
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Jman, I think it's gonna take a few years to get back to where we can do a second playoff game. Gotta win that first one first ;D baby steps, bro.....baby steps
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I agree as well. There's a whole generation of fans that only know the Bears of the last 20 years or so. The run in the 2000s was nice, but no ring at the end of it. Since then absolute mediocrity. We have to keep harping back to the 80s and the great teams back then, and even then with only 1 ring to show for it. I think it comes as no surprise that the only real constant since SB 20 is the McCasket idiot sons being in charge.
The first was a control freak who was threatened by anyone competent. The current one is no better than Chauncey the Gardener from "Being There".
Maybe its time for that to change. Maybe George (who's just a fan, by his own admission instead of actually, like getting to know the business Grandpa Halas created) finally got something right. But we can only base that on the past, and it does not look good.
I cannot be as optimistic as I used to be, nor as passionate (although still quite a bit, to my own detriment :D). We'll have to see if the Bears can be led back to greatness, but right now, they are definitely a bottom tier team.....
I mean, the TB Bucs have 2 SB rings for Christ's sake. That is galling enough, as our old friends from the Central who could not shoot straight way back whenhave outpaced the Bears. Shameful for the cornerstone franchise of the NFL. But maybe that's also hopeful. If they could get to that point twice and win it after all those years of bad play, maybe the Bears can to ?
Either way, it should be an interesting ride......
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Why will the fan base' sentiment now towards the team change? It appears to me we follow the team no matter what - although the fan base seems to be getting grouchier. New coach/new GM and all is good.
The Chicago Bears franchise gets no special favors just because they're the oldest in the NFL.
They will have to draft, sign and coach their players to win just like any other team.
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It will (and has) changed.
I'm one of those old fogies who remembers the glory of the 80s and the shame of the 70s (Walter excluded). I think fan-dom has changed since I was a kid. People seem to follow players now more so than teams (Fantasy Football syndrome).
Not that its a bad thing as life is change, but outside of Chicago (I have not lived there for a LONG time but still have relatives there) the drop off in fans seems considerable. They seem to be usually transplants and older folk, like myself. Sometimes their kids/grandkids are fans but not that often. They seem to be fans of other local teams (Panthers/Falcons in my area but also some frontrunners like the Packers etc).
I guess I'm just old school (or just old) but I have a hard time rooting for anyone but the Bears. Although, lately (at least for the last few years) have mellowed somewhat and enjoy the games for what they are more. No more punching a hole in my basement wall with because Wanny Overtime loss (I kept it there for years as a monument to my stupidity). No more getting slightly depressed Monday after a loss that could/should have been a win.
The Bears have never had a 4000 yard passer. EVER. Not in 14 games. Not in 16 games, and unless Fields reverses this trend, we won't have one in 17 games either. QB has been a problem since I was a kid. Some flashes at times but still very bad. Its not that the yards matter, but they are still a joke offensively in a league that favors the offense. How incompetent are they that they cannot seem to get handle on that FOR DECADES.
Maybe that will change now. We shall see. And I'll not be making any holes in my wall anymore :D
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I've been a fan of the Bears as long as you - perhaps longer.
One of the Bears problems is they haven't been really bad. They have had this strategy to go after a player or two and sacrifice draft choices. This keeps them mediocre and drafting around the middle of the pack, assuming they haven't traded the picks.
Build through the draft and pick and choose through free agency. This year it will be the opposite. But if Justin Fields is THE guy then I'll give them a pass.
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I still think of the Bears being in the NFC Central. At least I don't think of them being in the Western Conference :D
Here's hoping to a SB win sometime in my lifetime (again).....
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I'm not a fan of the super bowl - way too much hype....
I like watching every Sunday if they have some good talent on the team - with a chance to beat anyone - and aren't laughed at during pre-game baloney
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/07/chicago-bears-nfl-2022-salary-cap-impact/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos2headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
Is that better JJ?
Maybe a LT for us
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How about this JJ?
https://sports.yahoo.com/bears-ot-terron-armstead-free-172133101.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
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A big problem that the Bears have had (besides giving their picks away), they've made bad choices when they do draft.
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How about this JJ?
https://sports.yahoo.com/bears-ot-terron-armstead-free-172133101.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
Too high a price to pay for a NooAwleens retread. Drafting two dedicated Guard's is way cheaper.
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But it wont make the line bettrer. Just a different sieve on the left side. You have to start on the left side. Thats the blind side for a RH QB
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y_6kpbhTPQ
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Wow!
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What is wrong with that guy? Talking out his sinuses or something....
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I don't get the A-Rob whining about being ignored in the offense.
It's obvious that Mooney is the better threat. Mooney averaged 8 targets per game. A-Rob and Kmet were next at 5.5.
I don't doubt that the plays were designed to go to Mooney, and Fields probably didn't have the confidence to throw to A-Rob when he was tightly covered as Trubisky may have had in years before.
But it seems ridiculous to think that Nagy had some sort of conspiracy to keep the ball away from A-Rob because he was franchise tagged.
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Mack to the Chargers or a 2022 2nd and a late rounder in '23.
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I have mixed feelings but logically now is the time.
Age, injuries, $28mil salary next year.
They can get another good young starter as well as another with the cap money saved this year.
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No idea how accurate this is but while I understand why they did it, IMO the Bears got fleeced.
Comparing the Khalil Mack and Von Miller trades: Chargers paid a 2nd and 6th, with Mack still under contract for three seasons. Rams paid a 2nd and 3rd for a half-season before Miller's contract expired. Meanwhile, Bears eat $24M in dead money, save only $6M.
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Mack would be virtually untradable next year with his contract.
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Interesting list and options
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-2022-nfl-free-agency-potential-moves-ryan-poles/?itm_source=parsely-api
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Sad to see Mack go but the Bears won't be going anywhere this season (barring some serious luck).....
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This list is so deep that somebody more adept like Dallas should examine it. Its obvious we need a day one starter at LOT. While some names were familiar to me, others werent.
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-nfl-2022-free-agency-offensive-tackle-available-options/?itm_source=parsely-api
Some of those are too pricy but Poles has his work cut out to come up with a quality day one LOT.
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Mack would disappear for stints... After Fangio left, he wasn't the same player...
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This looks like a deal in the makings.
https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2022/03/09/left-tackle-eric-fisher-makes-sense-as-a-potential-bears-free-agent-target/
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Fisher was average last year. Don't bother if he wants to bust the cap.
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OK so who on that OT list appears worth getting for OLT?
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OK so who on that OT list appears worth getting for OLT?
Armstead, Fisher, or the Browns.
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Comparing the Miller trade to the Mac trade…. The broncos got more because Miller had no contract baggage coming with him. Mac comes with three years of 20+/yr contract. I bet the Bears would have gotten a sh1t-ton more had they taken on a lot of his contract. I like the deal. This trade was for 2023. I also expect more to come to clear future cap space and acquire picks.
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Poles and all the GM’s were just at the combine together so surely Poles knew what he could get.
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No idea how accurate this is but while I understand why they did it, IMO the Bears got fleeced.
Comparing the Khalil Mack and Von Miller trades: Chargers paid a 2nd and 6th, with Mack still under contract for three seasons. Rams paid a 2nd and 3rd for a half-season before Miller's contract expired. Meanwhile, Bears eat $24M in dead money, save only $6M.
You don't believe me. If this was a wish I'd have said so.
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Remember the Cubs trading some of their better players years before 2016? How'd that turn out?
It would have been nice to get more draft picks in '22, but 2023 Poles is going to be a kid in a candy store.
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They might be able to squeeze out a 3rd for Quinn and get a comp for Daniels. Poles might surprise and go big at LT. Bears projected at $123 million in cap space next year.
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I get it that this Mack trade isnt final yet, so it seems. It seems there still maybe some haggling going on. That said so now the $64 million question is who do you replace him with? Pass rushers like that are a dime dozen, right? One thing for sure is Quinn is the only bonifide edge rusher left on this roster.
I honestly didnt think they could even peddle Mack
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Time for Trevis Gibson to take the next step.
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Mack is no longer the all the time threat during the game, but if he has something left in the tank (and his body complies) he should be a beast at times. Just not all the time. And with Bosa (as long as HE can remain healthy) as a partner, it definitely makes the Chargers D more stout in a division with Mahomes....
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One thing about the trade, instead of losing picks, we're gaining picks. A trend I hope to see continue..
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Tarik Cohen released with injury designation.
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He wasn't going to work out with his health anyway....
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I'm ok with this:
The Bears wanted to trade defensive tackle Eddie Goldman, but they found no takers. So now he’s getting cut.
Chicago will cut Goldman, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network.
The 28-year-old Goldman was a 2015 second-round pick of the Bears. Last year he played in 14 games, with 10 starts. He’s primarily a part-time run-stopper, which hasn’t been a particularly important decision as the NFL has become more of a passing league. Given that he was owed $8.8 million this season, it’s unsurprising that the Bears couldn’t find any trade partners.
Goldman joins Khalil Mack and Tarik Cohen as significant Bears players sent packing this week. Linebacker Danny Trevathan may be next, and new General Manager Ryan Poles will continue to reshape the roster he inherited.
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I was a big fan of Goldman, even with his Covid holdout. But last year was getting pushed around the field and was missing tackles. Couple that with the Bears going to more of a 4 down line and I have no problem with the release.
BUT, the Bears have two huge holes at DT with Nichols a FA, Goldman's release and Hicks is also a FA. You need a threat at DT and right now the Bears have only backups on the roster. More to he shopping list.
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Well, this year instead of losing games 17 to 10 they'll lose 31 to 10 instead...... :D
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Well. They could be in a position where they have a high draft pick and someone needs a QB that wants to trade up and we can get a ton of picks to help with rebuilding.
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DL looks empty especially since it's claimed we're moving to a 4 - 3 front.
WR, CB, DL, OT, S
can't graft them all.
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Poles needs to draft quality players and not just focus on filling holes. He'll be filling holes with 1 year journeyman.
Now is the time to be bad. Poles and Eberflus are in their first years. No one expects anything in 2022. Get a decent draft position in '23 and go shopping with the expanded cap.
Being a GM is not easy. Each year you fill a hole then another hole opens up. That's why having an abundance of draft picks sticking on your roster is so valuable.
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An OL that keeps our defense off the field is how teams win.
I want a defense that sits on the sidelines smoking crack ... huffing paint thinner and shooting fentanyl.
Never needed because the offense is always on the field scoring points.
Last time I checked that's how games are won. :o
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Pretty sure that smoking crack, huffing paint thinner, and shooting fentanyl aren't how they draw it up! ;D But if that works, let's go!
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If anything the offensive line for the past for seasons should be fined for NOT taking performance enhancing drugs..... :)
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Maybe we can lure Keith Traylor and Ted Washington out of retirement to play DT???
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Goldman was a 3/4 nose tackle. With 4/3 thay have no use for Goldman even were he healthy
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I think a DL that can take up two blockers is always useful. If they were all healthy/motivated a DL of Quin, Hicks, Goldman, Mack would have been ferocious, the problem is we never had them all healthy at the same time. I have no problem cutting bail on the older expensive guys. We are rebuilding.
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It's almost as if we've been plugging holes since the Emory (GM) days. I think we'll look back at the Pace years and realize how bad he really was. I agree with Dallas. Let's build this thing from the bottom up. Just plan on us sucking the next season or two. Put together an offensive line to keep our young QB upright, and work from there. Fill in a hole here and there with free agents (see the Patriots).
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Like most NFL teams we are not that far off. First fix is the coaching...check (hopefully). This game is mostly about fundamentals of blocking and tackling.
There is a reasons the Steelers are always decent to competitive....its called coaching.
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Amen to coaching. It is the military equivalent of "force multiplier". The talent level in the NFL is a actually relatively thin margin between teams (the % chance to get into the NFL is evidence of that considering how many play Pop Warner, High School, College ball only a rare few get to get in at all). Only the best (or perceived best) get in.
The thing that will tip the balance is good coaching. Emphasizing good, sound play and making sure it is enforced throughout the team is a major asset that takes that thin margin and increases it against those who just want you to "Be You". It also helps if there is some true innovation (but success always breeds copy-cats, so it is not good long-term but is good to add some spice :D).
Talent available to be signed is handicapped by the Salary cap. Coaches salaries are not.....
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Goddammit a second and a sixth for two first round draft picks expended?
And now Goldman gone ?
I didn't think the idea was to reinvent the defense .
That was never the problem.
Am I missing something ?
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We are going to suck because the new GM wants to put his mark on the team. Now we have a bad defense to go along with our bad offense and special teams. Yay!
Now we need to rebuild our Dline.
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It's got to be rebuilt from the draft. I'd love to see some cohesion indicating a actual plan is in place instead of grabbing this, grab that, try to make it work together.....and it doesn't.
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Goddammit a second and a sixth for two first round draft picks expended?
And now Goldman gone ?
I didn't think the idea was to reinvent the defense .
That was never the problem.
Am I missing something ?
yes you are
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Not sure why all the love for Eddie Goldman. How many games last year did he have ZERO stats. The dude wasnt producing like he did before he took a year off. Period.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/13/bears-interested-in-juju-smith-schuster-nfl-free-agency/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
He wouldnt be bad if he didnt cost a fortune
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We have been mediocre for how long.. We've had a lucky year here and there. Look at our draft choices of the past 15 years. The draft should be the base of your team, fill in voids with free agency. We've been doing the opposite, hence the mediocrity.. Lately, we've been dealing our picks away to build through free agency. Some of our late round draft choices have been decent, and some of our lower free agency deals have been decent.. But not enough to build a solid team.. Think back to Urlacher, he was the anchor of the D for many years.. Colvin, Holdman, Briggs, Brown, Tillman.. Good draft choices. Filled in with Washington, Traylor (I think that was his name) FA's.. Our problem then was coaching (valid point by B4ever).. Goofy Dick,, WTF... I've said this before, Lovie was the best coach we've had in the past 20 plus years.. What's that tell ya... Scary sh!T!!
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Bears are signing DT Larry Ogunjobi away from Cincinnati.
He’s the new Goldman.
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https://twitter.com/BradBiggs/status/1503419370093043714?s=20&t=S-mJLRsJUVU7lQL4y7nx6A
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Bears are signing DT Larry Ogunjobi away from Cincinnati.
He’s the new Goldman.
Really the Tommie Harris 3 technique position critical to the Tampa 2
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Yeah, I took the easy route…
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Larry O had 7 sacks last year. Was rarely double teamed though. I looked at a Bengals forum, they like Larry O but think he was the 3rd best guy on their D line.
Bears have told forum favorite Alex Bars that they won't attempt to bring him back.
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Bears are signing DT Larry Ogunjobi away from Cincinnati.
He’s the new Goldman.
In a 4-3.
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LOL, yes…he’s our new 3-tech…
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Some of this is redundant but there is some new additions:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-free-agency-tracker-rumors-signings-releases/
Still havent seen an LOT yet. I see the Bears are interested in Allen.
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Allen re-signed with the Rams
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so James Daniels is signing with the Steelers. Wonderful.
Do the Bears get any compensation?
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It will probably be cancelled out by having signed Ogunjobi.
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I can't take credit for this but:
Tear Down, Chicago Bears!
We'll never miss all of this atrocity
Tear Down, Chicago Bears!
Slowly creep out of mediocrity the Bears fight song has become:
We'll never forget the way you thrilled the city
With a team this sh*tty
Tear Down, Chicago Bears!
Future's bright, that's all right, but for now
We'll blame all the holes
On Ryan Poles
Chicago Bears, Tear Down!
:D
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Wow, such ingenuity
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Bears sign LB Nicholas Morrow from Raiders. Really athletic and fast, still young. Did not play due to an ankle injury last year.
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G/C Lucas Patrick from the Packers. 2 years 8 million.
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He allowed only 1 sack last year.
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Morrow is one year 3M, up to 5 with bonuses. I really like this signing if there are no issues with the ankle. Morrow played safety in college, ran a 4.52 (roquan ran a 4.51 iirc). With the raiders, he played Mike and Sam.
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Love the Lucas Patrick signing ! That has to have Otto teeth gnashing sightings around the net.
Would love to see Cordarrelle Patterson back at Soldiers in Navy & Orange ! :D
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I found this interesting but confusing:
https://mail.yahoo.com/d/folders/1/messages/AH2Y6AVa0sMmYjM_gQPUeBqvWb0
Julio Jones? How much does he have left in the tank?
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Cole Beasley was just released.
Bears should take a look since he moves the chains and they need a slot.
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Robinson has signed with the Rams 3 years $46.
How do they have cap room?
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I don't know all the details of their cap, but don't forget that Von Miller just left.
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https://www.profootballrumors.com/2022/03/bears-sign-wr-equanimeous-st-brown#ref=home
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https://www.profootballrumors.com/2022/03/packers-trade-wr-davante-adams-to-raiders#ref=home
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St Brown is big and fast, I liked him out of ND. Nice young player to take a flyer on, hopefully goes into the season as #3 or #4. Familiar with Gettsy and his offense.
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St Brown never lived up to his potential in college or the pros. ?his younger brother is the better player.
Who the hell is Rodgers going to throw to without a #1 receiver?
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Who the hell is Rodgers going to throw to without a #1 receiver?
They'll find some undrsfted ham-n-egger from a D3 school who'll become the next Jerry Rice.
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WOW, I wonder if Erin gave his blessing to this. Maybe he figures with a couple of first rounders they can draft a replacement, but maybe they draft Kevin White 2.0. We should get so lucky.
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St Brown never lived up to his potential in college or the pros. ?his younger brother is the better player.
Who the hell is Rodgers going to throw to without a #1 receiver?
Right. Maybe our OC figures he can get more out of him. Sounds like a WIP. I sure dont expect much.
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I liked one of the comments made here in this:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/17/bears-to-sign-wr-byron-pringle-to-1-year-deal/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos2headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
Where things currently stand, Pringle looks to be the No. 2 wide receiver behind Darnell Mooney.
That sure doesnt say we have much, does it?
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He was the #2 in KC as well...
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Reports emerged on Monday that the Bears planned to sign defensive tackle Larry Ogunjobi. The Bears announced the move themselves on Wednesday after the start of the new league year.
But things changed before Ogunjobi was able to put pen to paper.
The Bears announced on Friday that they will not be signing Ogunjobi due to a failed physical.
Ogunjobi suffered a foot injury during the Bengals’ playoff victory over the Raiders and was subsequently placed on injured reserve.
“As I said before, Larry Ogunjobi embodies everything we are looking for in a Bear. He is a special person and player,” Bears General Manager Ryan Poles said in a statement. “During the league’s negotiating window earlier this week, we agreed to terms with him, subject to him passing a physical here. After a standard and thorough physical and medical review with Larry yesterday afternoon, our medical team deemed him to have failed his physical and therefore, unfortunately, we are not signing him today. This is difficult and it is emotional for everyone involved, but ultimately is what is in the best interest of protecting the Chicago Bears.”
Ogunjobi had reportedly agreed to a three-year deal worth $40.5 million with $26.4 million guaranteed.
He had signed a one-year deal with Cincinnati last year after playing out his rookie contract with Cleveland. In 16 games, Ogunjobi recorded 7.0 sacks with 12 tackles for loss and 16 QB hits. He also had a fumble recovery in the postseason win over Las Vegas.
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Read Mooney is working out with Fields in Atlanta
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He was the #2 in KC as well...
nope, he was the 3rd wr behind Hill and Hardman.
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nope, he was the 3rd wr behind Hill and Hardman.
https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/8790/byron-pringle
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I don't know what "down the stretch" means unless one of the top 2 wrs was hurt. He was the 3rd wr on KC.
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Pringle will likely be our slot receiver. I think one of the 2nds will go to the guy who will be our #2.
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Bears sign Justin Jones dt from San Diego. Read he was great against the run, but hurt often.
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You really don't know what "down the stretch" means?
Here's a hint...look at their targets the first 9 weeks of the season, and then the last 8 weeks of the season, and the playoffs...
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he was the 3rd receiver for KC no matter how you try to manipulate the fact.
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Think what you will...
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a fact is a fact. look at the team stats.
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I’m assuming you didn’t…especially the first 9 vs the last 8…
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https://sports.yahoo.com/bears-ot-terron-armstead-free-172133101.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
Well Watson didnt go to New Orleans, he went to Cleveland. So does that mean we go after Armstead?
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I’m not sure Armstead could pass a physical right now either…
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/18/bears-sign-justin-jones-nfl-free-agency/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1image&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
Well I guess maybe we filled one hole.
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Lose Daniels gain Patrick ...
lose Robinson gain Pringle ...
lose Mack gain Jones ...
in a zero sum zero situation are we gaining or losing ?
What was the performance of Mack & Robinson last season?
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This year has the feeling of spackling a wall to fill holes that were there (as well as some created by yourself while trying to get the surface prepared) in order to get a better paint surface in 2023. We'll see if Poles does a good job of sanding, as well as picking the right colors for the new house :D
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I think Poles has had the combo of shedding salary (i.e. Mack), injury (i.e. Cohen) and poor attitude (i.e. Goldman).
Seems like the guys they are bringing in are "chance" type players. They have a lower ceiling with a higher floor. Not every team can be loaded with super stars. Need solid role player types.
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Remember Mack was on the injury report every week 2 years ago and missed 10 games last year.
It’s highly likely his best days are behind him.
In a couple of years what would you expect out of him?
Time to build those 8 core players roster and build the rest as good as they can.
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A couple of Free Agent moves I would like to see Poles make:
AJ Green WR. He signed a 1 yr 6 million dollar deal last year. I think you could get the same deal this year. He would add some experience and depth to WR position. He had 54 catches for 828 yards and 3 TDs last year. He would be 1 yr stop gap.
Jarvis Landry WR. He is 29 yr old slot receiver. He ranks 19th in receiving yards over the past 4 seasons. He will not break the bank. I would sign him to two year deal.
You sign these two guys and draft a WR in draft and that position is set for year.
Mooney, Green, Landry, Pringle, St. Brown, rookie.
Terron Armstead LT. This is the no brainer break the bank FA. We do not know if Teven J. will be good or not. I would break the bank and sign Armstead. Let Jenkins and Borom battle for RT. Let the loser be swing tackle backup.
I would draft a RG with 3rd pick.
OL would be Armstead, Whitehair, Patrick, Rookie, Borom/Jenkins
I would draft Araiza SD states punter in 6th.
On defense
Stephen Nelson CB. He is 29 and solid. Would take the pressure off finding a starter in draft. I still draft a CB in draft 2nd round.
With first 2nd round pick I would draft a 3 technique DT.
I would use both 5 rounder picks on safeties.
Kyle Van Not LB. Not sure how well he fits scheme. He is above average player who would provide some leadership.
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Facts are facts , Armstead is closer to retirement then a rookie.
Build the trenches through the draft. Young hungry punks grateful for a paycheck and willing to die for said paycheck.
Capitalism reduced to its basics ... you work hard you will be rewarded with more money and a wife of your choice.
The last time I checked Borom & Jenkins had how many years and how many games under their belts last year?
Oh shiit ... is that how everybody has made up their mind about them that quick ?
What if an employer that you wanted to work for made up their mind about you that quick ?
Would you feel that you were being fuucked over & not being given a fair chance ?
I like Justin Fields ... I think he is the best we have had in decades ... and our SUPERBOWL RECORD is proof of that.
That being said I want the motherfuucker protected before we draft any "skill' positions like WR or TE.
The meat and potatoe (Dan Quayle spelling) trenches built ... OVERBUILT with backups.
Boring guys that man the trenches, everyday starters whose names nobody will remember 15 years from now.
Excapt for us because they took care of business to protect Fields. :)
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Armstead is good when he plays. He's always hurt though. I think paying him top tier LT money for questionable availability is a bad bet.
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I would draft a RG with 3rd pick.
I think the Bears heard that so they are going after a guard
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/21/chicago-bears-host-ryan-bates-nfl-free-agency/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
Just so they dont ignore that LOT position
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Bears signed a fullback.
https://www.chicagobears.com/news/roster-move-bears-sign-fb-khari-blasingame-1-year-deal
Run the football. Max protect.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-nfl-free-agency-best-players-available-after-first-wave/?itm_source=parsely-api
There are some good options still available.
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Bears signed a fullback.
https://www.chicagobears.com/news/roster-move-bears-sign-fb-khari-blasingame-1-year-deal
Run the football. Max protect.
When's the last time we had a dedicated Fullback on the team ?
Of course we will need a class A OFFENSIVE LINE to help the FB break holes for whatever RB.
What's getting weird is what is our defense going to look like ?
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We've had fullbacks but they never used them much or properly, not back to the days of Matt Suhey have they used them properly.....
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We've had fullbacks but they never used them much or properly, not back to the days of Matt Suhey have they used them properly.....
Suhey was the last FB that I can remember we ever had.
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Brad Muster
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Jason McKie
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Bob Christian
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Our new fullback is a good receiver and has upfield speed. I think he'll help move the chains more than the tight ends have.
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Tyler Clutts...who then was traded to Houston for McManis. That turned out ok
Mitch's BFF Michael Burton
Ahh nuts, my profile pic finally died...
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Bills guard Ryan Bates may soon be heading to Chicago.
Bates, a restricted free agent, intends to sign an offer sheet from the Bears, according to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune.
Under the NFL’s restricted free agency rules, the Bills will have five days to match the contract Bates signs with the Bears. The Bears have much more salary cap space than the Bills, so the Bears will likely structure the contract with a big cap hit this year to make it more challenging for the Bills to match, although the Bills could restructure other contracts to create cap space to keep Bates.
The Bills chose to tender Bates at the lowest level, which means the Bears will not have to send a draft pick to Buffalo if Bates goes to Chicago.
Bates has only started four games in his career, but he has shown enough promise that multiple teams were interested in him. In addition to the Bears, Bates visited the Patriots and Vikings.
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Our new fullback is a good receiver and has upfield speed. I think he'll help move the chains more than the tight ends have.
Think its another rethink that this skill group is fading and this skill group is rising? Happens every decade or so. ???
Bills guard Ryan Bates may soon be heading to Chicago.
Bates, a restricted free agent, intends to sign an offer sheet from the Bears, according to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune.
Under the NFL’s restricted free agency rules, the Bills will have five days to match the contract Bates signs with the Bears. The Bears have much more salary cap space than the Bills, so the Bears will likely structure the contract with a big cap hit this year to make it more challenging for the Bills to match, although the Bills could restructure other contracts to create cap space to keep Bates.
The Bills chose to tender Bates at the lowest level, which means the Bears will not have to send a draft pick to Buffalo if Bates goes to Chicago.
Bates has only started four games in his career, but he has shown enough promise that multiple teams were interested in him. In addition to the Bears, Bates visited the Patriots and Vikings.
I'd sign him just to keep him away from the Vikings. 8) 8)
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A well-traveled quarterback will be continuing his career very close to the city where he played college football.
Trevor Siemian, a former starter at Northwestern in Evanston, Illinois, has agreed to terms with the Bears, according to his agent, Mike McCartney. It’s a two-year deal.
A seventh-round pick in 2015 of the Broncos, Siemian won a Super Bowl ring as a rookie in Denver. The following year, he secured the starting job over rookie first-rounder Paxton Lynch, following the retirement of Peyton Manning and the free-agency departure of Brock Osweiler.
Siemian started 14 games in 2016 and another 10 in 2017. He was traded to the Vikings in 2018, where he served as the backup to Kirk Cousins. He spent 2019 with the Jets.
He signed with the Titans in 2020, but Siemian eventually was released and signed to the practice squad. The Saints added him to the active roster late in the 2020 season. He was soon released and added to the New Orleans practice squad.
Last year, Siemian was cut by the Saints in late August but then re-signed to the roster. He replaced Jameis Winston in a Week Eight win over Tom Brady and the Buccaneers. Siemian started four games for the Saints in 2021.
For his career, Siemian has thrown 1,029 passes, completing 606 for 6,843 yards and 41 touchdowns, with 27 interceptions. His career passer rating is 81.2.
In Chicago, he joins a depth chart led by Justin Fields. The Bears also have Nick Foles; as Charean Williams noted when Siemian recently visited Chicago, the addition of Siemian could mean that the Bears will try to trade Foles.
Most recently, Siemian visited the Raiders. That apparently was enough to get Chicago to get things done, bringing Siemian back to Chicago seven years after he left Northwestern.
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LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpmX3SRhS5Q
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Siemian has agreed to terms on a two-year deal with the Bears, his agent announced Thursday night. Siemian's contract is worth $4 million, and the QB has a chance to make up to $5 million overall, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport added Friday.
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Iggy gone:
Linebacker Joel Iyiegbuniwe is the latest addition to the Seahawks roster.
The Seahawks announced on Thursday that Iyiegbuniwe has signed with the team. No terms of the deal have been announced.
Iyiegbuniwe comes to Seattle from Chicago, where he played for Seahawks assistant head coach and former Bears defensive coordinator Sean Desai. After signing with Seattle, Iyiegbuniwe said Desai “looked out for me and said good things about me” ahead of the agreement on a contract.
Iyiegbuniwe played 58 games over the last four seasons and has seen almost all of his playing time on special teams. He had 29 tackles and a forced fumble during his time in Chicago and figures to remain a core special teamer with the NFC West club as well.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/24/bears-ryan-bates-intends-to-sign-offer-sheet-nfl-free-agency/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
How much can be compensation for a UDFA? Some cash? And this guy is a guard and not a starter? I sure hope Poles can tell the difference between a guard and a tackle
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The Bears and horrible FA QB signings go hand in hand it seems......
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Trevor Siemian for $4/2 is not at all horrible. This is how you do a backup QB.
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Any interest in current F.A., ex-Chicago CB Bryce Callahan?
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I'd take Foles over Simian any day (at least Foles proved he can win a game) and he did seem get shafted by the previous regime because he was critical of Nagy's "Offense". But then again, if either see the field in the regular season, then things are going very poorly for the Bears anyway at that point (and the chants of "Fire George" will get louder)........
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It's time to bet on Fields being the starter. Put ourselves in a position to get some picks for Foles. I like the idea of gaining picks rather than trading them away.. The only place Foles seems to be a real winner is in Philly...
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So our Oline is improving backwards.....typical Bears....
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/24/bears-ryan-bates-intends-to-sign-offer-sheet-nfl-free-agency/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
How much can be compensation for a UDFA? Some cash? And this guy is a guard and not a starter? I sure hope Poles can tell the difference between a guard and a tackle
No compensation because he wasnt drafted by the Bills. They have the right to match any offer Bates signs.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd34k3KzEw8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBvRv56n924
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIMQRYuTuQ
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Here is the latest on Bates:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/28/bears-ryan-bates-offer-sheet-deadline-approaching-bills-nfl-free-agency/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos3headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
So it should be soon
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Bills matched.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1508514794424487940?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Another swing and a miss by Poles. Hope its for the best.....
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Don't we have two second draft picks or six ?
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We have two second round ricks because of the Mack trade. I believe you are correct we have 6 total this year.
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Saw an article on possibly signing Larry Ogunjobi again. Depends on the medical staff. But Bears could sign him to an incentive laden contract. If he plays and produces he gets paid. if not...
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Well I guess another correction from the Pace regime- they've re-signed Cliff Stein to contracts again. Always had a feeling it was kind of a mistake to let someone good like that go (although he was in another capacity I think ?)......
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Some in Chicago media see indications Poles is not high on either Jenkins or Borom.
If so there’s a heck of a lot of work to do.
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Some in Chicago media see indications Poles is not high on either Jenkins or Borom.
If so there’s a heck of a lot of work to do.
It's normal that when a male lion takes over a pride of female lions from it's previous male owner to kill any cubs that lion may have sired.
Hey Fields ... watch your back. :o
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If Poles isnt high on Jenkins or Borom, he should have been all in on Armstead or another top LT.
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So Armstead signs with Miami. Hadnt heard or seen that. The bottom line is Poles better get to work and find a couple of STARTING OTS. If I were Fields I'd be looking to find some more life
insurance. What we have wont get the job done.
Oh and OGS dont play well as OTS either.
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Last I saw Bears have about $20 m salaycap space.
Need about $8m for draft picks and they are 23 players short of having a roster.
Really expect many big FA signings?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMqSVTBgpJs
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Good sign.
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Both the Bears WRs signed in free agency are on 1 year deals. I think this is an indication that Poles could target WR with one of the two 2nd rounders.
But I think there are other positions that are more of a concern for 2022.
Bears don't know if Jenkins can handle LT (just like last year) so that position could be targeted with a 2nd rounder. CB is equally an unknown. And I don't see a starting safety opposite Eddie Jackson. Also need an impact DT - not another journeyman type like we already have.
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This looks good. Too bad you cant make those throws laying on the ground.
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/30/bears-justin-fields-darnell-mooney-offseason-workout-highlights-march-2022/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
That video looks awesome
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But I think there are other positions that are more of a concern for 2022.
Yeah some life insurance for Fields, namely a LEFT offensive tackle.
If I were JJ I'd be asking for 6 LOTs with the 6 picks we have.
Maybe Poles wants to bring back Leno to play LT.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRPQ19nT-0g
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This is just plain crazy
https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/what-bears-rebuilding-plan-means-for-justin-fields
That sounds downright ugly.
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In this case the Bears had to do take Poles' approach.
They are getting younger because their defense had played out its usefulness with five starters in their 30s and declining production over the last three seasons.
They are getting younger on defense because they need faster players to play a totally different system based more on speed than the last system was.
They are getting younger on offense to build around a young leader in Justin Fields.
They have a completely different offense because the other one never worked, and they need new players to fit this attack, just like they do with their new defense.
You need the rest of this article. Dont expect much out of this season. Just as I dont expect any Oline improvement out of the draft or FA, because they dont care. At the bottom of the article it said that Fields is basically a stopgap till 2023 when they "will have a high draft pick to draft Field's replacement"
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Good grief. Click bait garbage from a bottom feeder "journalist".
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I don’t even bother…
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I'm seeing and reading where Russian forces don't have the resources to supply the front line and thinking ...
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wait a minute isn't that THE CHICAGO BEARS with their OL ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im0HH2l9kLM
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This wouldn't be the Chicago Bears if they did not sign an old TE that they will not use......
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And the team's greatest need they seem to be ignoring.
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And the team's greatest need they seem to be ignoring.
Are you talking LT? There are no quality starting LTs available that would fit in Poles shopping basket. He might find a stopgap guy or maybe picks up a project with one of the R2 picks.
Id actually be OK with re-signing Peters to a one year deal, but that's probably not going to happen.
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They have little cap space with many positions to be filled aside from the draft.
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https://www.chicagobears.com/news/roster-move-bears-sign-te-ryan-griffin-one-year-contract
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Ryan Nall has signed with the Cowboys.
What was your favorite moment of the Nall Era?
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Ryan Nall has signed with the Cowboys.
What was your favorite moment of the Nall Era?
He had a great 70 yard TD run...in a preseason game.
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Announcer : Fields on his own thirty yard line ... the snap is taken ... the pocket appears to be collap ...
SACK BY DETROIT !!
Announcer : Why did DA BEARRSSE draft five punters ??
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The Bears drafted five British guys who like to visit prostitutes?
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https://sports.yahoo.com/report-bears-agree-one-deal-043240755.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB6fHffKbcU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_z4LfZx-Fo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZmWdyey83Y
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Per Kevin Fishbain
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQuBf5vXIAUi1T8?format=jpg&name=medium)
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" What wither brings tomorrow?"
Dammn motherfuucker that's almost Walt Whitmanesque !
Just goes to show you ... BEARRSSE fans may be stupid but their not idiots.
Or is it they are not idiots and not stupid ?
Here's one thing that is known ... we are going to clean some unexpected clocks motherfuukers.
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"Chicago Bears voluntary minicamp got underway today at Halas Hall and a lot of focus was on the players protecting Justin Fields: the offensive line. Teven Jenkins and Larry Borom flipped positions from last year as Jenkins got the starter reps at right tackle while Borom started at left tackle. Bears head coach Matt Eberflus says the Bears’ OL is a “fluid situation” and that they’ll try different combinations. Jenkins played primarily RT at Oklahoma State, but got moved to LT before his rookie season."
https://rumble.com/v11mhcy-chicago-bears-rumors-trade-for-a-superstar-wr-teven-jenkins-playing-rt-trey.html
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/19/bears-justin-fields-downplays-rocky-rookie-season-matt-nagy/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
Of course they didnt put him in a position to succeed. And this season doesnt look any different at this time. If you cant protect the QB, this season doesnt look promising either.
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New 5-Mississippi rush rule needed
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/19/bears-justin-fields-downplays-rocky-rookie-season-matt-nagy/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
Of course they didnt put him in a position to succeed. And this season doesnt look any different at this time. If you cant protect the QB, this season doesnt look promising either.
Bears did not protect their QBs - no argument. But lets not use that as the big scapegoat for Fields performance last year. He was often times slow to identify secondary receivers, had problems in the pocket in identifying pressure, and had a long windup release.
Not down on the guy as he was a rookie but he has a lot of room for improvement with his own game.
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Found this interesting:
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-offensive-line-features-many-players-new-positions
OK I get that. What makes me worry a bit is this:
"The offensive line will certainly be challenged to keep Justin Fields upright more often this season. They’ll have to learn a new zone blocking scheme for the run game, too. But based on the numerous changes we’ve seen to the group in the early goings of the offseason, it’s safe to say they’re invested in improving up front, no matter how long it takes."
Didnt they try that zone blocking scheme before with that ND schmo coach and can him?
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that ND schmo coach is back as the O Line coach for Notre Dame.
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Bears did not protect their QBs - no argument. But lets not use that as the big scapegoat for Fields performance last year. He was often times slow to identify secondary receivers, had problems in the pocket in identifying pressure, and had a long windup release.
Not down on the guy as he was a rookie but he has a lot of room for improvement with his own game.
Yes they are working on changing Fields:
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-qb-justin-fields-explains-changes-his-game-2022-season
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that ND schmo coach is back as the O Line coach for Notre Dame.
The ND offensive line was horrible last season especially at the porous LT position
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Hiestand was hired just a couple of months ago by the new head coach Freeman, I don't think he would have returned if Kelly was still the head coach.
BTW, the first LT was a freshman Blake Fisher who got hurt in 1st game, another freshman Joe Alt started the last 8 games at LT. Both should be NFL players.
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The number I remember was 75, he was a sieve
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Josh Lugg (75) played mostly RT is currently being moved to RG but had surgery a few months ago. he and their center are 5th yr seniors & both have had recent surgeries. If both are healthy to start the OL should be OK. Big if.
Tosh Baker (79), a big 6'8 boy played some LT and was awful.
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OK maybe I didnt remember the correct number
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORfasrzQteg
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https://nfltraderumors.co/bears-expected-to-sign-ot-julien-davenport/
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Before you guys get too excited about Davenport nailing down the left side:
Colts must move on from OT Julie’n Davenport
Julie’n Davenport is probably not as controversial as the others on the list, this one seems unanimous. I don’t think there was a worse player on the field for the Colts this season, by far.
Per PFF, Davenport posted an overall blocking grade of 45.3, allowing four sacks on top of that. Yikes, honestly, there’s no shot Indianapolis even considers retaining this bad experimental nightmare, right?
Davenport opened the season as the starting left tackle while Eric Fisher was recovering from an Achilles injury suffered in the 2020 playoff run with the Chiefs. In Week 2 against the current NFC Champion Los Angeles Rams, Davenport made a start at right tackle subbing in for Braden Smith.
Davenport also saw playing time on Christmas day when the undermanned Colts stole a victory over the Arizona Cardinals.
Regardless, it’s likely Julie’n Davenport’s role with the team is coming to an end. Perhaps Indy will look to drafting their future left tackle after some strong candidates put on a solid performance in the 2022 Senior Bowl.
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IMO Davenport = Dozier. They are just veteran depth who both look like sh!t on their previous teams, have no chance of starting, and a less than 50/50 chance of landing on the 53.
Unless training camp proves that Poles/Cunningham totally whiffed on their OL evaluations, the drafted guys will most likely be ahead of them in the depth chart.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORfasrzQteg
Every talking head agrees our needs are WR-OL-CB.
The more we sign at WR & CB the more we can devote to OL in the draft.
When you think about it with only six picks why not draft every position along the OL and be done with it ?
And draft one WR.
BTW ... what HAS worked in the last 37 years ?
Oh ... that's right ... nothing. :o
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wonderful:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33800732/chicago-bears-wr-byron-pringle-arrested-reckless-driving-suspended-license
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The good news is that it was just doing donuts on a suspended license with a kid in the car. He didnt kill anyone. The bad news is it shows a serious lack of judgement. WR just moved up the draft importance ladder.
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Idiot. He has shown flashes at KC and I was hoping he would be a serviceable WR3. IMO, after an early tradedown, I still expect PolesIanFlus to go heavy on trenches on both sides early before going WR.
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Amen brother, build the trenches.
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I'm hoping that the Bengal we brought in for a tryout that failed his physical becomes a viable option.
There was some pics of him recently practicing in a Bears facility.
https://dawindycity.com/2022/04/24/chicago-bears-news-rumors-ogunjobi-instagram/
What did he have a broken foot?
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Broke his foot in the playoffs against the Raiders.
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If it hasn't healed since the playoffs then that is a big concern.
Recall WR David Terrell had lingering foot issues.
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Justin Fields at Soldiers Field planted on the field looks like shiit without an OFFENSIVE LINE.
I wonder how we could solve that.
Anybody have any answers ?
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Easy Jackie. We all know what is needed.
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I'm hoping that the Bengal we brought in for a tryout that failed his physical becomes a viable option.
There was some pics of him recently practicing in a Bears facility.
https://dawindycity.com/2022/04/24/chicago-bears-news-rumors-ogunjobi-instagram/
What did he have a broken foot?
I read that wasnt the Bears facility, was a HS in Columbus Ohio.
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I read that wasnt the Bears facility, was a HS in Columbus Ohio.
That makes sense. Bears wouldn't let an unsigned player into their facility. And a broken foot that hasn't healed in 3 months is probably not much better a month later.
But I'm still holding out hope that the Bears can snag this guy - would make the first few rounds of the draft a little easier.
Bears are really hurting at DT with only 3 legit guys right now. Smith is like Urlacher - he needs to be protected.
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The doctors must have told the Bears he won’t be healed by training camp or going into the season.
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What would it take to make the packers afraid of us in our home Chicago at Soldiers ?
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An offensive line, wide receivers, a pass rush and good corners.
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Maybe. Or Aaron Rodgers dieing of Covid.
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Changing ticket costs so that the heavier the fans are, the more the ticket costs. Oh wait, that would make the cheesehead fans scared of SF. My bad....
Maybe that holding calls on offensive linemen will actually be called ? Just a thought......
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Halas Hall better be sharping knives on Arkansas sharpening stones in anticipation for Friday & Saturday. >:(
This is no time to be fuuckin around.
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Well at least they didn't jump up into the first to grab someone and give up picks. Hopefully they'll trade down and grab more picks....
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wouldn't trade down, they need to hit big with the 2 second round picks and hopefully in the 3rd.
getting extra 4th and 5th round picks isn't going to help.
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Interesting point. I'd like to get the BPA (OT, DT, CB, WR) at 39 and trade down the 2nd second-rounder to get another pick in the top 100.
The trade down is based on the talent level available with those extra picks. If Poles board likes quality in late 3rd/early 4th then we could see a trade down. Not always that easy cuz you need a partner that wants to trade up AND give you value for that trade up.
Offensive line appears to be the biggest need. DT has 2 starters but not much depth. CB has a little depth but no clear cut starters. WR is so-so with 3 experienced starters and 1 youngster (Daz) to compete for 3rd and 4th WR.
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If Malik Willis is still available I see teams wanting the Bears pick to move ahead of Seattle who picks right after the Bears.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33835367/chicago-bear-agree-release-quarterback-nick-foles-two-seasons
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2022/4/30/23051370/bears-justin-fields-ryan-poles-wide-receiver-huge-mistake-round-2-draft-general-manager-defenders
Reading that gives me some hope this GM is smart. I'd agree with his reasoning here....
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2022/4/30/23051370/bears-justin-fields-ryan-poles-wide-receiver-huge-mistake-round-2-draft-general-manager-defenders
Reading that gives me some hope this GM is smart. I'd agree with his reasoning here....
Packers did the same thing where they drafted at in the first.
Not A WR worth taking for them with value at that point in the draft.
They went LB.
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We couldn't get anything for Foles?
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Cutting Foles was a move to free up 3 million dollars in cap this year. Think FA signing coming up soon IMO. Most likely a veteran WR if I had to guess or RG.
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How about a veteran LT?
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With the number of WR drafted in this draft there are bound to be some good ones cut that are overpaid from some of these teams.
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With the number of WR drafted in this draft there are bound to be some good ones cut that are overpaid from some of these teams.
How about a veteran LT?
Does anybody know of any LT's or WR's for the coin we can spend?
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https://nfltraderumors.co/top-2022-nfl-free-agents-list/
If you like older expensive players - there are plenty.
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https://nfltraderumors.co/top-2022-nfl-free-agents-list/
If you like older expensive players - there are plenty.
Where is BEARLY when you need him. That RB we drafted was below 220 right? Isn't that the magic number?
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Logic/Laport/Logport
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BEARBOT !!
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Logic/Laport/Logport
What was really bizarre was when he had conversations with his other ID.
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And he was in pharmacy school for about 12 years.
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Son of Blutarsky?
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Senator Blutarsky?
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https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/chicago-bears-have-begun-major-purge-of-scouting-department/
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/report-bears-dismiss-college-scouting-director-mark-sadowski
https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/bears-firings-signal-reshaping-of-scouting-department
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I wondered if Poles brought in his own guys before the draft. Looks like he used most of the prior regime's guys then just fired them.
I wonder if he's now going to swipe scouts from his prior teams.
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I didn't feel our scouts were a problem. They seemed to find talent in the later rounds. It was the guy trading up and giving away draft picks for the wrong players that failed us.
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And in other news:
Olin Kreutz has been fired after putting Adam Hoge in a head lock after some flippant comment. Olin always had anger issues, but I found him usually insightful, even when I didn't agree with his take on things. I hope he get some help to manage his anger and stays in the business of football analysis, but in today's easily Offensive/Cancel Culture, you never now....
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https://www.chicagobears.com/news/bears-assign-jersey-numbers-2022-draft-picks
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Yup and there is a man in the moon who eats green cheese:
https://www.chicagobears.com/video/ryan-poles-we-re-constructing-a-very-good-football-team-press-conference?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=exchange&tblci=GiAuHf7TZnTNzkox-fFN3HtnCz_058R5lmD-4O0Kcv_BkSCniT4o8ZmV2bCQ-pP3AQ
You just got to believe......right?
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I'm not going to judge this draft until I can evaluate Braxton Jones and Zach Thomas.
Both have the size and "combine" numbers that impress. Both have tape highlights that impress. Both have extensive experience at left tackle.
In other news, I always liked this guy -
https://www.chicagobears.com/news/roster-move-bears-claim-wr-finke-off-waivers
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The Bears already upgraded their offense by getting rid of Nagy.
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https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/chicago-bears-have-begun-major-purge-of-scouting-department/
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/report-bears-dismiss-college-scouting-director-mark-sadowski
https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/bears-firings-signal-reshaping-of-scouting-department
There were over 20 dudes in DAA BEARRSSE draft room.
Shiit there's only 53 players on the fuuckin team.
It's like one scout per two players. Bloated.
The best they could do to help Fields was the fifth round ?
Who the fuuck is in charge here?
Every grade I see on the draft is like C- .............. D. >:(
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Poles is not at risk of being fired next season. He can actually go draft the BPA. It just so happens the Bears finishing 6-11 and numerous holes in their lineup.
Do the Bears have a hole at safety? Yes cornerback? Yes Wide receiver? Yes
We ALL know we need wideouts and offensive lineman as well as defensive tackles but Poles apparently didn't reach for a 3rd round WR or lineman in R2.
We'll see how it al pans out in the next year or three.
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Poles is not at risk of being fired next season. He can actually go draft the BPA. It just so happens the Bears finishing 6-11 and numerous holes in their lineup.
Do the Bears have a hole at safety? Yes cornerback? Yes Wide receiver? Yes
We ALL know we need wideouts and offensive lineman as well as defensive tackles but Poles apparently didn't reach for a 3rd round WR or lineman in R2.
We'll see how it al pans out in the next year or three.
All of us will see how it pans out when Fields is planted like an afterthought at Halas Hall because the new regime has already given up on him and here we go again for year 38 and they have their best QB to pick in the 2023 draft.
AND FUUCK YOU CHICAGO BEARS !!
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-best-remaining-free-agents-to-target-after-nfl-draft/?itm_source=parsely-api
The article says there are 25 FA players that could interest the Bears. Of those listed there were 8 OLmen. 4 of those 8 were OGs, one C and 3 OTs. Two are available OLTs, Duane Brown and Eric Fisher. I hope we go for
one of them. That would help the offensive line desperately
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Poles may want to see what he has first. Maybe after a few practice sessions he'll have those over 30 year old LTs on speed dial. Fisher appears to be the best option.
The longer Poles waits the more their price goes down.
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I'm not going to judge this draft until I can evaluate Braxton Jones and Zach Thomas.
Both have the size and "combine" numbers that impress. Both have tape highlights that impress. Both have extensive experience at left tackle.
In other news, I always liked this guy -
https://www.chicagobears.com/news/roster-move-bears-claim-wr-finke-off-waivers
What do you like about him? Serious question from someone that doesn't watch hardly any ND football.
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Finke is short but is quick with great hands, think Hunter Renfrow, Adams Humphries, Braxton Berrios. Steady punt return man.
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https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/matt-eberflus-showed-bears-rookies-little-mercy-in-first-minicamp
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Shuffling of the bottom of the roster:
05/09
Signed LB Christian Albright, DB Jon Alexander, LS Antonio Ortiz, DL Carson Taylor, DB A.J. Thomas and RB De'Montre Tuggle.
05/09
Waived LB Jaylan Alexander, DB Amari Carter, WR Landon Lenoir, LB Ledarius Mack, WR Savon Scarver and RB Master Teague.
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I like that this roster is getting a lot younger with players who are striving to prove people wrong, including Fields. I just cannot see this team being a top 5 pick disaster with the schedule lightening up. Pace had a pro personnel background who when striking out at the draft with unnecessary trade ups attempted to use FA to distract from his fuckups. Poles is just the opposite with a college scouting background who believes in building through the draft with BPAs and then supplementing the team through FA. Angelo's OL was only good after getting FA help but were never reinforced post SB after Lovie basically took over personnel. Poles will be drafting a lot more OL depth than Pace ever did. IMO that will help Fields in the long run more than throwing $40 million guaranteed at Kirk or trading up to get Watson. If and when Fields is successful under an offense that will scheme protection better and run the ball better than last year, then next year Poles will have the resources to go big.
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If and when Fields is successful under an offense that will scheme protection better and run the ball better than last year, then next year Poles will have the resources to go big.
Thats the million dollar question, IF and WHEN. My problem is I dont want to wait to IF and WHEN. I dont want to try THIS and THAT UDFA to grow an offensive line. It needent be that necessary to form an
Offensive Line that isnt that offensive.
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Pace thought he had a playoff caliber team. He really didn't.
You can't expect to build 3/5's of a secondary, add some linebackers and defensive tackles AND a couple of offensive lineman, a receiver or three in ONE offseason.
Poles has addressed the O-line with quantity we'll see if it turns out to be quality.
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Poles has addressed the O-line with quantity we'll see if it turns out to be quality.
I disagree with that. The most important position wasnt addressed.
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Anybody remember these guys?
COVERT drafted round 1
THAYER drafted round 4
BORTZ drafted round 8
HILGENBERG undrafted
VAN HORNE drafted round 1
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/08/bears-explain-plan-for-rookie-kyler-gordon-nfl-draft/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
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Wish we could have a Oline like that again, JJ.....all of them studs.... We still know their names. How often does that happen with linemen??
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Becker was the top OL backup right?
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Jim Finks
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Jim Finks
Put it all together.
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Poles has addressed the O-line with quantity we'll see if it turns out to be quality.
I disagree with that. The most important position wasnt addressed.
No ****.
We could have addressed it last year but Bears picked their franchise QB. I guess Bears could have drafted Christian Darrisaw last year to play LT and drafted Pickett in R1. Would the Bears be better off?
It's difficult to find LTs in the draft - even in round 1.
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https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/tarik-cohen-mental-health-nfl-football
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https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/tarik-cohen-mental-health-nfl-football
I’m sure it’s not always a great life being an NFL player.
Relative and friends think you owe them.
Family members think they can do whatever they want because you’ll always bail them out.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-updated-undrafted-rookie-free-agent-class-nfl-draft/
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-updated-undrafted-rookie-free-agent-class-nfl-draft/
Painful reading. :(
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sure is.
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Wsh
It's the hand we're dealt. The idea is to take 11 bottom cards and work them into a Royal Flush. ;D
It's been done before. 8)
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Some card players stash Aces on the bottom of the deck. I dont think that works in the NFL Draft.
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Well I certainly hope the Rams arent on this year's schedule. Dont want to watch Aaron Donald have 6 sacks by the end of the 1st quarter.
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Each week there will be a dominant pass rusher or rushers the Bears will face.
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Thats a disaster waiting to happen., which is why I have been advocating a FA left tackle purchase.
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Each week there will be a dominant pass rusher or rushers the Bears will face.
Can you imagine being a season ticket holder and having to endure that? At least I can watch a different channel when the Bears play.
The Bears would be undeniably unwatchable.
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I don't know that the sky is falling...yet.
Bears coaches will need to see what Jenkins and Borom can do on the left side. Both were rookies last year so they both will benefit from an offseason. Jenkins even more so due to his injury that kept him out much of last season.
Bears are not going to push the FA button at LT anytime soon until they know what they have.
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https://nationalfile.com/virginia-democrat-county-supervisor-indicted-on-82-felonies-in-election-fraud-scheme/
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/11/chicago-bears-hosting-wide-receiver-keith-kirkwood-2022-nfl-season/
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Has any of our schedule been leaked yet? I saw a leak for Thanksgiving and thank god we are not playing that day.
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Hell NO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9zN55uBRAE
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Bears are not going to push the FA button at LT anytime soon until they know what they have.
Hmmm. How soon can they tell? No pads now. After July camp opens? After the season begins? Good Grief.
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Bears cut Jesper Horsted sign wr Tajae Sharpe.
https://nfltraderumors.co/bears-signing-wr-tajae-sharpe-to-one-year-deal/
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Some cat named Rysen John, too.
https://www.chicagobears.com/news/roster-moves-bears-add-rysen-john-waive-jesper-horsted
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Boy thats a lot of nobodies there
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more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5nsYUZ5PNs
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Week 6: TNF v Commanders
hmmmm... I wonder if my wife want's a road trip to Chicago week 6?
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Hat tip Parkins (https://twitter.com/DannyParkins/status/1524790506881961987)
Week 1: 49ers
2: at GB SNF
3: Texans
4: at NYG
5: at Vikings
6: Commanders TNF (Oct 13)
7: at Patriots MNF
8: at Cowboys (Oct 30)
9: Dolphins
10: Lions
11: at Falcons
12: at Jets
13: Packers (Dec 4)
14: BYE
15: Eagles
16: Bills (Xmas Eve)
17: at Lions
18: Vikings
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2 things:
Bears come to Big D and the Vikings visit Soldier Field in January. They almost always schedule the Vikings game in Minnesota late in the season.
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Hat tip Parkins (https://twitter.com/DannyParkins/status/1524790506881961987)
Week 1: 49ers
2: at GB SNF
3: Texans
4: at NYG
5: at Vikings
6: Commanders TNF (Oct 13)
7: at Patriots MNF
8: at Cowboys (Oct 30)
9: Dolphins
10: Lions
11: at Falcons
12: at Jets
13: Packers (Dec 4)
14: BYE
15: Eagles
16: Bills (Xmas Eve)
17: at Lions
18: Vikings
I dont see any wins on that schedule. Does that mean anything to Bear fans on the board?
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that's a meat grinder, period.
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that's a meat grinder, period.
FUUCK IT.
WE should do the meat grinding.
Let's take back our fuuckin identity.
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Possible to win against the Skins Oct 13 and the Loins are always there for the taking....
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If the coaching staff can put together any competent offense and defense they could go above 500 with that schedule.
If not they’ll be in a good draft position to get that franchise left tackle.
Fields progression is all that really matters to me.
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Without Garappolo, Trey Lance will be leading the Niners. We have a puncher's chance in that one. Packers in GB, probably not. Then Texans, Giants, Vikings,, Commanders is not a bad stretch. Lions, Falcons, Jets is not a bad stretch. There are some wins on this schedule for sure, and some tough stretches.
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On any given Sunday of course, but this team of who knows who is going to be interesting (and frustrating) to watch this season. And in the end that's all the NFL just wants is for people to watch.....
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If the coaching staff can put together any competent offense and defense they could go above 500 with that schedule.
If not they’ll be in a good draft position to get that franchise left tackle.
Fields progression is all that really matters to me.
Hopes and dreams are wonderful but arent realistic.
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Hopes and dreams are wonderful but arent realistic.
Ok, explain how they’re worse than last year and how that relates to the schedule.
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Ok, explain how they’re worse than last year and how that relates to the schedule.
Roster full of UDFAs, New offense, and unfixed offensive line
Simple answer. Choke on it
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/12/chicago-bears-schedule-preseason-2022-matt-nagy-return/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos2headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-schedule-predictions-game-by-game-2022-season/?itm_source=parsely-api
Unless the can find rabbits in those helmets. I dont see many wins. That appears like they fixed that OLine. I dont buy that.
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Roster full of UDFAs, New offense, and unfixed offensive line
Simple answer. Choke on it
They had a new offensive line, and a bad offensive plan last year and were competitive.
I don’t see any Udfa starting this year.
You just enjoy a bad team more.
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You just enjoy a bad team more.
So you think this team has more than 6 wins in them? Seems you do. I sure dont. I would be pleasantly surprised with 3.
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You just enjoy a bad team more.
So you think this team has more than 6 wins in them? Seems you do. I sure dont. I would be pleasantly surprised with 3.
If Jenkins and Borom and Fields having a full training camp unlike last year play well, and with the improvement on defense There’s at least a chance for 8-9 wins.
Not making predictions yet though.
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How Fields progresses will be the biggest determinant.
everyone is focused on the OL, which has been a problem for a long time.
I look at the team and wonder about the remaking of the defense.
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If Jenkins and Borom and Fields having a full training camp unlike last year play well, and with the improvement on defense There’s at least a chance for 8-9 wins.
Not making predictions yet though.
I dont see anything good out of Borom or Jenkins. So you must think the Southern Utah dude is a stud. Good grief
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I dont see anything good out of Borom or Jenkins. So you must think the Southern Utah dude is a stud. Good grief
No, read carefully. I said Jenkins and Borom have an opportunity to be solid, maybe.
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No, read carefully. I said Jenkins and Borom have an opportunity to be solid, maybe.
Life is an opportunity. Anything is a possibility. Even 17 wins are possible too. But I dont believe in the man in the moon and his green cheese.
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I think 8-9 wins is a bit optimistic, but who knows... I'm with some of you guys, I'm a bit surprised we haven't done anything about OT. There's still time for an opportunity. Second tier quality...
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Ok, Eeyore, I mean Wshful we ALL know the Bears will not be a playoff team.
It doesn't mean we can't look forward to some of the younger guys growing and surprising us. Yes, we know there are problems with the O-line and wide receiver and of course the unknown at QB. I'll throw in DT and possibly DE if Quinn gets traded to a contender like Mack was.
Also, the roster is not nearly set. There are the June 1st cuts. And maybe a late FA signing or two. Let's see what they look like in the preseason.
I see you're one of those guys who likes to set their sights low so they will never be disappointed.
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The Patriots were the best at picking up FA vets that they would squeeze another useful year or two out of em..
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I just hope they let Jenkins play on his natural right side.
Let Borom, Jones & Thomas try the left.
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Might be better on his achy/breaky back too
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I suppose I should be a pessimist ...
BUT IT"S ...
THE FUUCKIN CHICAGO BEARS MAN ...
so I have to be an optimist ... because otherwise ... why bother ?
What if our first two picks in the draft on defense that we drafted are so good that the opposition has to keep turning the ball back over to our offense ?
So suddenly it's like ... WHOOA !!
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I think this is a 6 win team most likely. 9 wins if everything goes their way.
If Fields shows improvement and proves he can be the franchise QB we all hope he can be then it will be worth it.
I hope they come together and light it up but I just don't see it. This is a total rebuild with a 2nd year QB who has talent but did not show the ability to read defenses. However he proved he can accurately throw the deep ball if given time. He has skills you can build upon.
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In the NFL you have like a 2 year build back with a 2 year shot to build a real winner. I give Pace credit for going for it. However Trubisky pick is what sank him. From the stupid trade up, to the passing of a more proven QB in Watson (although his character issues did show up later). Then giving up the farm for Mack and a couple of desperate really bad FA deals.
I really like what Poles has been doing. From purging the roster of bad contracts to bringing in a lot of young competition, to hiring "real" football coaches (guys with a long resume of coaching). This is literally like what month 3 or 4 for Poles? Let's give the guy a little bit of time. We will be shooting for playoff in 2023-24 with our window to win it all in 24-26.
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I wont make any predictions until I see a few preseason games and hear about how camp goes. But that schedule is the weakest one I can ever remember the bears playing. Lots of bad/unproven qbs.
I think our defense is going to be good if we get near the same performance from quinn. If Fields is the guy I think he is, the offense will be improved. Just moving on from Nagy will help imo.
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No Nagy is enough to get any Bear fan excited.
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Does anyone feel that if the O-LINE jells that Justin Fields could be the next Aaron Rodgers turning Mooney into the next Devante Adams ?
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Does the man in the moon eat green cheese? I dont think so.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/14/nfl-chicago-bears-over-under-win-total-projection-odds/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos2headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
The over and under for the Bears is 6.5.
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My friend who is a Miami Dolphins fan, his son who is a hard core Bears fan, my son and myself will be heading to Chitown for the Phins vs Bears game on Nov. 6th.
Anyone here going to game or tailgating? Would love to tailgate with some Bears fans before the game. Growing up in Florida do not make it to Chicago for many Bears games.
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someone asked about Chris Finke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3veUQ4s0CF4
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That was me regarding Finke, thanks for the video. So not a Julian Edelman type. From what i just watched looks like he must run good routes because his separation was impressive. Good hands/ Decent run after catch toughness, but isn't outrunning anyone. The competition in the video, Navy, Ball State Bowling Green, Wake Forest, Florida State, and USC - all looked like blowout wins - maybe not the highest level of competition. You play who is on your schedule.
What year did he graduate?
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He kind of looks like he out-talents his opposition- both with athleticism and attitude.....
The attitude seems great, but he won't out-talent many in the NFL....
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Finke's last yr at ND was 2019. The other wr on the team was Chase Claypool that year.
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Bill, you think St. Brown is going to make some noise as a WR3/Justin Gage type? Greg Gabriel says that Getsy signed off on him, he is much more athletic than his brother in Detroit who had a breakout rookie season and will push hard b/c of that, and even in limited reps his route running has improved greatly from his college days. His biggest weakness was laziness and a sense of entitlement which probably faded away after getting Rodger's cold shoulder...
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St Brown is all potential, no production. His size and athletic ability are undeniable but it never seems to translate to the field. He was OK in college, just not a standout.
Reminds me of Kevin Austin. Both left school early, both athletic but didn't put up the numbers. St Brown at least got drafted late, Austin didn't.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/15/chicago-bears-nfl-free-agency-duane-brown-candidate/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
That would be a good stop gap move for the season
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/15/nfl-chicago-bears-san-francisco-49ers-week-1-odds/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos2headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
At this point i would agree. In fact just about any NFL team they'd be underdogs.
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I dunno, the 49ers are more talented by far, but I don't get pushing Trey Lance.
If I had to pick between Lance and Fields I'd pick Fields.
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6.5 dogs……..at home. Not a lot of love there.
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Considering the 49ers beat the 1 seed in the playoffs, they should be favored. That said, Lance is unproven, I just hope he isn't the second coming of Mahomes!
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6.5 dogs……..at home. Not a lot of love there.
Not a lot of good expected for the whole season even with a poor quality competition schedule
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Yet the real reason spreads exist is to not necessarily to show who is favored but how the "house" wants to be sure that the bets come down more evenly distributed so they don't take a big hit at one time by a lopsided result. The house always wins :D
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https://www.chicagobears.com/news/roster-moves-bears-add-coleman-cut-winslow
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T. Cohen just has some bad, bad luck. Wish him the best....
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/05/17/tarik-cohen-injured-while-live-streaming-workout/
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Not sure why the Bears cut Winslow. Maybe they really like the rookie punter, but don't you need 2 guys to get through training camp?
Either the rook was clearly better and needs all the reps or they were giving Winslow a chance to sign with another team for a real chance at starting.
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If Davante Adams already walked ... why would you spend your first two picks on secondary defending against a player already gone ?
Is the rest of what Minnie and Deeeeeeeeetroit have that scary ?
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It’s a passing league. Stopping the pass should be priority one for a defense. That is done by rushing the QB and blanketing the WRs.
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One could argue the secondary was as big a weakness on this team as the OL and cost the Bears a couple wins last year blowing late leads despite having a career year by Quinn and being 4th overall in sacks (https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-sacks-2021-by-team). Poles felt that BPA in the 2nd round was DBs instead of WR/OL.
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Agreed. Only problem I have is the overuse of the defense when the offense cant stay on the field because the offensive line cant stop a pissant.
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It’s a passing league. Stopping the pass should be priority one for a defense. That is done by rushing the QB and blanketing the WRs.
The best way for DAA BEARRSSE to rush the passer is to trade a pass rusher they gave up TWO #1 picks to another team ...
for alot less then TWO # 1 picks in return.
Hey ... what the fuuck its Halas Hall workin some magic. ;D
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Found this on the Bears USA today site and I agree:
Michael G
This is going to be one of the worst bears teams in history. No real improvement on the offensive line and no help at receiver! If we are honest not only do we not have a number 1 receiver we really dont have a good number 2 either! How exactly does Justine Fields improve with an offense worse than last year? Starting to look like Poles is in way over his head!
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Good grief.
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Keep in mind Fields has his top three receivers from last year still. Mooney, Kmet and Montgomery. They are going to run the ball and use play action. In theory this should work since Fields is accurate on the deep ball.
It all comes down to the O-line.
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ESPN has the Bears favored in only one game this season.
Detroit by 2 points. That's it.
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Think its going to be a rough ride, unless Fields proves to be the man. Just don't quite have the faith in the offseason moves. Since the McCaskets got their ghoulish hands on running the franchise instead of football people (e.g Finks) its been very mediocre-ish with all their football decisions. We shall see, but high optimism should not be expected......
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If things turn out as bad as it can get ...
we will be ranked behind Deeeeeeeeeetroit.
That's never happened before that we were THAT fuucked up. ???
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ESPN has the Bears favored in only one game this season.
Detroit by 2 points. That's it.
Didnt I tell you? I keep warning you
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I for one am going to be an optimist going into season.
New coaching, that's a plus.
Getting rid of veterans that did not play much due to injury and had big contracts, that's a plus.
Seem to be changing the culture to hard nosed football, that is a plus.
Youth movement will be painful at times but watching young players develop will be fun.
I can see us being competitive just not contenders for going far in playoffs. 7-10 or 8-9.
Next year we will have lots of money to go fill in the team and contend. It is a process, I for one just want to see a plan and see improvement play out.
For starters when it is 3rd down and 7 yards, throw the damn ball further than 7 yards, not 1 yard dump offs.
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You can add Jenkins Borom and Fields will have a training camp to prepare as starters, unlike last year.
Gordon and Brisker are big upgrades.
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I would rather follow a team that does poorly because they are too young, than follow a team that plays poorly because they are too old.
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Whoopy
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For Octagon and Dallas
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/20/chicago-bears-rated-worst-team-in-nfl-ahead-of-2022-season/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
Bears are the worst team in the NFL, per ESPN's FPI rankings
And you think I am dumb? When you keep telling people and they dont listen........
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/19/chicago-bears-no-joint-practices-this-summer-2022-nfl-season/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos3headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
Why would you want to show your fans how bad you are? But they cant stop the fans from seeing how bad by not playing their 3 preseason games.
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Bears are the worst team in the NFL, per ESPN's FPI rankings
Bet the over.
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Haha I get what you are saying. You are saying that if you are a betting person and the odds are against only one win this year bet the over. Why even the Lionesses won more than one game last year. Makes sense
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Bet against the Bears having the worst record in the NFL in the 2022 season.
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I wouldnt
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The Bears are not the worst team in the NFL, but they feel closer to the bottom than the top for now......
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I get all the doom and gloom, but personally I am really stoked. No more "Be You", hopefully an aggressive, swarming defense, some younger/talented players to watch. Not expecting great things, but with a high draft pick next year and a ton of cap space, lets see what shakes out. The million dollar question is can Justin Fields progress. Not talking Erin Rogers level, but just better than last year.
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With so many new working parts this year, a shitload of things would have to go right to have a good season (e.g. not be in the lower 1/3 of the league). So its not a wonder that the optimism is a bit low.....
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The Bears are not the worst team in the NFL, but they feel closer to the bottom than the top for now......
Haha. Just wait that tune will change soon
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Buy the ticket take the ride.
We're crazy enuff to believe on this board.
BEARRSSE are an acquired taste like scotch & water ...
first leaves a bitter taste but builds the strength of liking over time.
The last time a Halas Hall shakeup occurred we came out 12-4.
Throw me some numbers for this shakeup about winning.
??? :o ;D 8) :D ;D
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Haha. Just wait that tune will change soon
Define soon. Next week? July? September? January?
Let me get this straight. You think the Bears will not be a good team in 2022? Wow - you should write for Sports Illustrated. The rest of us were all thinking Bears make it to the NFC championship game.
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Define soon. Next week? July? September? January?
Let me get this straight. You think the Bears will not be a good team in 2022? Wow - you should write for Sports Illustrated. The rest of us were all thinking Bears make it to the NFC championship game.
Man you are being goofy today. Talk crap after the first preseason game. Tell me then about your predictions for the outcome for the season. I am shocked you havent wised up by now. You are too knowledgeable to
be fooled by cloaks and mirrors. I keep opening up things for you and you think things are dumb.
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Dallas
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/21/chicago-bears-rough-ride-2022-nfl-season-justin-fields/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos2headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
How many wonderful long bombs is Fields going to have thrown from his position on the ground? Zero.
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Man you are being goofy today. Talk crap after the first preseason game. Tell me then about your predictions for the outcome for the season. I am shocked you havent wised up by now. You are too knowledgeable to
be fooled by cloaks and mirrors. I keep opening up things for you and you think things are dumb.
You state the obvious day after day.
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https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/expert-makes-scary-chicago-bears-offensive-line-prediction/
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I honestly don't know what to think. I do like the intensity the new staff is bringing to practice. Word is Lovie did this as well and he had pretty solid teams for the most part. Much better than the dance-a-thon thinking of the last coach. So I think with the staff the ground work is laid but it's going to take more than a season to turn things around and more draft picks. This season most likely will suck but hopefully there will be positives for the future....
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Right now nobody knows jack about the Bears coaches or the new players or even some of the guys drafted last year.
But everyone has a right to make their predictions based on media snippets.
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That's exactly what the offseason is for ! :)
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I prefer to make observations not predictions.
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Yeah, obviously I was all in on a SB championship season as soon as the draft was over. But then I read the national consensus and I thought fuckit. This team will be lucky to win 1 or 2 games next season because ESPN, NBC, CBS, SI, and the NFL network preseason rankings are stone cold locks (https://dawindycity.com/2022/05/23/chicago-bears-news-media-pessimism-fields/) and LaCanfora and Florio are never wrong. So why bother?
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I get you all. You want to wait till after the last game of the season to start your whining and crying
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/23/chicago-bears-explain-vision-for-velus-jones-jr/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline&env=2ea40eed43933273faeccdc9b0fba543451bcacdda6eb0f39e86c517461b1e2c
Interesting
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Looking at your source, I’m gonna go ahead and say it’s not…
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I get you all. You want to wait till after the last game of the season to start your whining and crying
You like to whine and cry even before spilling the milk.
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What if we fuucked up everybody's minds and did better then anyone said we could ?
Isn't that DAA BEARRSSE way ?
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You like to whine and cry even before spilling the milk.
I aint watching dumb rotten football. Smoke that. If they dont fix that offensive line even the Lions will be more entertaining
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The Bears will be a LOT better than you think wishful. I am not saying they are going to the playoffs but they will win more games then you expect.
6 to 9 wins. They are going to run the ball and use play action off of that. This will freeze the pass rush and will also allow Fields to use his wheels if need be. Nagy's system was terrible without a top notch OL which the Bears don't have.
This IS a TOTAL rebuild. However the Bears were up against the cap and were old. They had to get younger to turn it around. I think we will all be pleasantly surprised and entertained while watching this young team grow in front of our eyes.
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Ol's Eberflus is setting a tone. Jaylon Johnson already in dog house for not showing up to first OTA. He had him playing with the 2's, not the 1's. That is how a new coach set a tone. I like it.
Go to the Bears videos and listen to the players, they are genuinely enthusiastic. The reporters keep trying to get them to put down former staff and the players have obviously been coached to not do that but they are so overly positive on new staff....they kind of do put down old staff.
I think this will be a quicker turn around than many think. Steelers are always competitive with less talent because of coaching. Coaching is a big deal and I am starting to feel that we got a solid staff.
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I don't disagree with the what's been said about Poles and Eberflus but we were also pumped up about getting John Fox and bringing Nagy from the Chiefs.
Let's curb our enthusiasm a bit.
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I agree with the "we don't know what we have"... We'll find out soon enough.. I have a hard time believing we'll be the worst in the league.. That's usually reserved for a team like Detroit... O-line is a concern, no doubt!
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Look, I was just sick of watching a Nagy team, just to many WTF moments.
At least this year it will be interesting to watch how the new regime handles the team. It will either give us hope or "not again" despair.
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I don't disagree with the what's been said about Poles and Eberflus but we were also pumped up about getting John Fox and bringing Nagy from the Chiefs.
Let's curb our enthusiasm a bit.
I'm not sure that saying the Bears will have a better record than at least 1 team in the NFL could be considered enthusiasm.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpmGDveadWg
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Well, we either watch because we have hope to see a better product on the field or we are masochists..... :D
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Fuuck it man lets get on to the field and play the game and see how the shiit turns out.
It's better then philosophizing.
Any answer today is always right when every dream returns to 1985.
The past is a middle finger in anger when you want a future.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2hLDsGnfhY
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https://youtu.be/mKIPkbUz6EY
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Bears only won 6 games last year.
They lose Robinson, Daniels & Peters on offense.
They lose Mack, Hicks, Nichols & Ogletree.
All new coaches & schemes.
And people are upset they are projected for only 6-7 wins?
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Pro Football Focus has the Bears at 31 of 32 teams in their early power rankings..... not too many have high hopes for this team this coming season. Maybe by the time they get a new stadium built in Arlington they'll be much improved.....or maybe not, knowing what we do of Da Bearrrrse.....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3KQvqH9uXI
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this guy was a 2nd round draft pick in 2018. his dad is former MLB player Gary Pettis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ_u6wfCiYk
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The SHOWDOWN AT SOLDIERS WHEN THE PACKERS SHOW UP.
This defines our identity for the year.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-news-ota-takeaways-justin-fields-teven-jenkins-jaylon-johnson/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=4
Yes the offensive line is very offensive. Still cant find that OLT.
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So the Southern Utah Flash got some exposure to see what we have at LT. Woo Hoo. Desperation time is apparent.
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Wshful,
You mean to tell me that the Bears don't have a legit LOT yet? How do you know all this stuff - direct phone line to Virginia?
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No, because if they shift guys around during walk through it’s because they’re not walking through good enough.
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No love for the Bear ANYWHERE. Jim MIller, Jim Miller! on Sirrus said the best thing that could happen to the lions is to play the Bears 7 times. Good God, how inept is this group?
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I saw the move of Borom to RT and Jordan to LT differently. I thought Jenkins showing already he has RT locked down.
Now the question is who can be the swing tackle? Jenkins does have injury history.
Not going to let the rookie try and learn two spots. Borom has experience on both sides.
Best scenario would be for Jordan to win LT and Borom to become swing tackle. Would provide depth and solutions.
Now if Jenkins sucks or Borom sucks, not good. However I think it is early enough in process to figure coaches just trying everyone out at different spots to understand what they have.
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Wshful,
You mean to tell me that the Bears don't have a legit LOT yet? How do you know all this stuff - direct phone line to Virginia?
Haha, I thought you were the one who had the direct line to Virginia. Maybe I was wrong about that
You mean to tell me that the Bears don't have a legit LOT yet?
Here I thought you knew everything
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I think it's highly unlikely that Jones beats out Borum this year. (who is Jordan?)
much more interesting situation is right guard, will our new HC start a rookie or plague the team with a terrible vet?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9m--e0zUpo
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-under-most-pressure-2022-nfl-season-justin-fields/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=1
I dont disagree that Fields and Mooney will be under pressure. Why? The offensive line will have to produce and protect Fields and/or make holes for the RBs to gain yardage and keep the chains moving
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The thing is we wont know if the OL is going to blow chunks or gel under the new scheme, until the pads come on. Just no way to know. Add in injuries, and we just have to wait and see. I am not getting upset or worried until that time.
The fact that Nagy is gone has to improve the OL play by SOME margin, whatever it may be. :)
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One would hope
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Worst case scenario is the lack of talent results in a top 5 draft pick, which can be traded for two first rounders and maybe more to speed up the rebuild.
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Watched a bit of the playoff game between the 49ers and the Packers on NFLN recently. Lucas Patrick was playing RG the entire game.
Keep an eye on the center from Illinois - Doug Kramer.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5b8NeQrL-4
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Maybe they have something in Jones
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Watched a bit of the playoff game between the 49ers and the Packers on NFLN recently. Lucas Patrick was playing RG the entire game.
Keep an eye on the center from Illinois - Doug Kramer.
Could be a development player long term. Wouldnt take much to be better than Mustipher
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-minicamp-what-to-watch-justin-fields-jaylon-johnson-2022-nfl-season/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=0
So that begins Tue-Thu. I'd keep my eyes on #2, the Offensive line. The note in there was Quinn was absent from Voluntary minicamps. Interesting to see Quinn vs OLT. That should clear the dust about the season
forecast.
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While Fields hasn’t had a perfect offseason, his coaches and teammates are already noticing vast improvement in just a few months.
Vast improvement in practices where he doesn't get hit against practice players vs last year live drills vs NFL starters. And his coaches weren't even around last year to compare this year's camp vs last year's.
We won't know what we have at QB until we get into the regular season. Remember what Fields said about preseason games being slow - how slow were things in Cleveland Justin?
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Attaochu cut, DT Mike Pennel signed.
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Penne should be a good run stuffer and keep blockers off the linebackers
Attachou maybe just isn’t worth the salary and they can use the money elsewhere
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Bears currently 3rd in cap space (https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2022/) this offseason. If they need to pick up the batphone and call Fischer, Brown, or Solder, I'm fairly certain an emergency deal is doable. But hopefully it doesn't come to that...
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Penne should be a good run stuffer and keep blockers off the linebackers
Attachou maybe just isn’t worth the salary and they can use the money elsewhere
Pennel had a pretty good preseason last year but I don't believe he made the final roster. He has a shot this year with the loss of several interior defensive lineman (Nichols, Hicks and Goldman).
Attachou must have not showed much early on - he had lots of competition with the younger DEs trying to make the roster: rookie Dominque Robinson, and 2nd year guys Charles Snowden and Sam Kamara. Its a young man's game.
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Didn't realize Hicks was gone. Been so many changes and moves can't keep up.....
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Very interesting:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/06/15/bears-minicamp-three-rookies-starting-with-offensive-line-day-2-practice/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=1
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If this happens, the Bears board will be jumping.
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-record-prediction-every-game-2022-adam-rank/
I dont see this happening. If it does then there really must be a man in the moon who eats green cheese.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-news-minicamp-takeaways-justin-fields-cody-whitehair-byron-pringle/?itm_source=parsely-api
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Lots of good stuff here:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-news-minicamp-takeaways-justin-fields-jaquan-brisker-velus-jones/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=2
Enjoy
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To predict 10 and 7 is writing fluff bullshirt... Which is ok, considering there's little to write about. The Bears have more unanswered questions than answered.
To me, a successful season would look like this..
A defense that's on it's way to looking like it belongs in Chicago
A win against Green Bay
Fields progressing and looking like an NFL QB
An O line that's showing signs of being able to run block and showing some continuity to give Fields time to throw (doubtful)
A coaching staff that has the ability to adjust to the other teams' game plan..
Win 8 games on the season...
They don't have to be great, just show signs of going in the right direction. I'm guessing they'll win about 5 games..
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To believe 10-7 I said was like believing there is a man in the moon who eats green cheese. I'd be shocked at a division win, even the Lions will be improved.
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I about fell on the floor when I read this:
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/ex-bear-dick-butkus-aaron-rodgers-taunt-well-see-who-owns-who
Too bad he is too old to suit up. We surely need to find a re-do. Erin needs a come uppance.
Too bad that come uppance wont come this year, Dont see any W's vs the Pack for awhile.
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Predictions are like... what everyone has.
I'm wondering if the Tevin Jenkins demotion is more Eberflus sending a message or is he really that bad that he can't beat out a pair of 5th round draft picks or even a FA converted center.
If the Bears do deal Quinn, which appears likely, the Bears could have not only one of the worst offensive lines in football but also one of the worst defensive lines in football.
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See I was right about you.
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I'm wondering if the Tevin Jenkins demotion is more Eberflus sending a message or is he really that bad that he can't beat out a pair of 5th round draft picks or even a FA converted center.
I dont believe Jenkins is that bad YET. I think it has more to do with his back at this point. I dont think there is as much stress on his back on the right side and Jenkins is more used to the right side. I think they
want to try to get Jenkins aclimated to the NFL first to see what they have in him.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-minicamp-review-solving-o-line-issues-key-justin-fields-growth
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This seems what I kind of expected::
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/breaking-down-every-position-along-chicago-bears-offensive-line-ahead-of-training-camp/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=2
I think we may see Poles find a different ROG off the waiver wire before camp
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Already rooting around in the Garbage can ? Before even training ? That's just super. There are reasons why these people are on the waiver wire.
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Here's a quick trip down memory lane....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv9EgKVaBpY
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-projected-starting-defense-after-minicamp-2022-nfl-season/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=6
No surprise here or is it snow here? The biggest question here is will Quinn be traded. He didnt endear himself to Bears management by skipping off season camp.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/what-bears-rookie-braxton-jones-learned-from-playing-with-starting-offensive-line/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=4
Bears fifth-round rookie Braxton Jones has quickly emerged as a contender for the starting left tackle job. Jones impressed the coaching staff enough to warrant first-team reps at left tackle during the final week of organized team activities and the entirety of mandatory minicamp.
NO, I think what it means is the Bears were desperate enough to find a LOT that has a chance to stay. We'll see come training camp when they put the pads on.
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He has flaws most notably in the run game, but he can move and has good length (arm and height) His scouting report pointed to flaws that mostly can be corrected.
Bears may have to give up some weakness in the run game to get a solid pass protector on the left side.
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Found this interesting:
https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2022/06/28/espns-fpi-has-the-bears-drafting-2nd-overall-in-2023-but-making-the-most-of-the-pick/
Get that Bears fans.....drafting 2nd. You have to have a horribly rotten year to draft #2. I keep telling you all things dont look good for this season.
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Wshful - You have hammered that point home. If any of us are surprised by your position, we aren't reading daily. For myself, the Bears are what I look forward to every year. I tend to be an optimist and hope for the best. Our schedule is much less difficult than it has been, and I see us with 5 - 9 wins. Everything falls into place, the players buy in to Eberflus, Fields elevates his play, and we win 9 games. Very young team. I want to see Fields progress. He is the number one prioirity. If he develops, then we have hope for the future. You only need to look at the Packers and see what stability at the QB position brings. We have been relegated to cheering for when the Packers will exit the playoffs, and fortunately the Packers always grant us our wish, lol.
There is a lot of change happening, I am happy that Nagy is gone. First half of 2018, I thought we had caught a tiger by the tail. After that, the tiger turned around and had us. He was miserable and frustrating to watch as he forced the QB position into his vision and not what the player did best. Happy that chapter is over.
So a writer writes an article that we will finish with a poor record and the number 2 overall pick is no more fact than me writing we will win 8 games and finish with the 14th pick.
Here's to the man on the moon eating green cheese...
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New systems, coaches lots of new players. It will take time for things to shake themselves out. This is at the moment not a better team than it was, but I think by the end of this season, we will have a better handle on whether the needle is pointing up (I am hopeful) or down. In the meantime it will be a rough ride.....
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yes, years it will take
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Catfish of the nfl. Bottom feeders. That eventually get replaced by.....more bottom feeders.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-biggest-concern-offense-2022-nfl-season/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=2
Vote offensive line. Offense begins with the offensive line. No offensive line means no offense. Means a lot of 3 and outs and maybe an injured QB. Also means the defense has to stay on the field too much.
I liked the comment about time to work together. Needed to get cohesiveness a lot earlier. Waiting for training camp is asking for a disaster.
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As usual when it comes to CHICAGO BEARS ... the whole fuuckin thing is brand new with yet another 37 year long experiment.
WHICH BTW ... has amounted to over 37 years as equaling ... ... ... ... FUUCK !!!
Ever wonder WHY there's deep dish pizza and dago beef samiches in Chitown ?
DAAAAAAAAAAAA BEARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSE!!
We all need something for the tummy after another BEARRSSE game ... it's human nature. :D
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The NFL lacks pride and Character. That's why you see a lot of teams cash it in by mid-season. Players don't care who they play for, it's all about the paycheck.. On top of that, they want to interject race and politics into the league. The teams that are successful have one or more players or coaches that can divert from the noise of the media..
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While the rest of you continue to argue about which party sucks more, the Bears have traded a 2024 7th rounder to the Patriots for former 1st round pick WR N'Keal Harry.
Great move!
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Not overly excited about it. I hope he blows up but if the Patriots are giving up on him I am guessing he sucks.
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From what I have read his blocking skills are why the Bears traded for him.
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Slow time of the year. It's like this every season..
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Not even a 2023 7th rounder. LOL. 2024 7th round pick. I hope that pisses him off and lights a fire under his ass.
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But then again wouldn't this be the 4th and last year of his rookie deal? If he blows up he could become a FA after this year and be gone.
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Pringle and Harry ranked #1 and #2 in the NFL as run blocking WRs.
We’re going to be running the ball.
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four yards and a cloud of dust. I'll take it.
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In a league where all the rules are geared towards the passing game the Bears are going to be a running team?
Sure hope that’s not true.
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four yards and a cloud of dust. I'll take it.
Ha ha. I doubt the 4 yards.
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Would be nice to see a Bear offense that actually took advantage of the offensive rules. But the Bears have hamstrung themselves offensively since, well, pretty much the whole modern era. Love me some defense but damn it would be nice to finally have an offense as well.....
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Thats why they need more rookies playing on the offensive line.
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Ha ha. I doubt the 4 yards.
Monty career is 3.9 ypc
Herbert is 4.2 ypc
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I'll take a good defense with a strong run game. Control the clock.. Start running with some success, play action...
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Fields throws a very accurate catchable deep ball. He starts connecting on those off play action it will open up the run game even more.
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Harry pancaking Myles Garret then getting up field and laying another block.
https://twitter.com/MaxMarkhamNFL/status/1546976613601988608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1546976613601988608%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublish.twitter.com%2F%3Fquery%3Dhttps3A2F2Ftwitter.com2FMaxMarkhamNFL2Fstatus2F1546976613601988608widget%3DTweet
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-reasons-for-concern-ahead-of-training-camp-2022/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=0
"Despite struggling last season, the Bears will be continuing to build their offense around Fields. There’s cause for concern though, seeing as there weren’t many improvements on offense to help the second-year quarterback in terms of wide receiver and offensive line."
"The Bears had an awful offensive line last season, giving up 58 sacks in 17 games. Their worst game was Fields’ first NFL start, where he was sacked nine times. He was under pressure the entire game, completing just 30 percent of his passes.
Yes, Chicago did draft some offensive linemen and try to improve things this offseason. Still, all of their problems won’t be solved in one offseason. It’s going to take at least another year or two before they have a solid offensive line."
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Wow newsflash.
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Wow newsflash.
I get it. You mean somebody else doesnt agree with you.
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Don’t disagree at all, it’s just that there are a hundred Bears websites saying the same thing
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BearsWire is just the worst…
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No one knows what the Bears will be this season.
There have been far too many changes to form much of an opinion, other than the shear number of changes makes it hard to succeed.
Look at the roster changes. How much did the players lost contribute last year on a team that lost a lot of games on defense in the fourth quarter.
You can argue they’re better now. No one knows
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The only real thing we know about the team this season is so much is unknown. New-ish front office (McCaskets still around so new deckchairs on the SS Beartanic ?). New coaching staff. New schemes on offense (needed) and defense (not so sure was needed). New ST coord and probably punter (draft a punter, really ?). And how this all meshes with the players they do have. As far as offensive talent, they are going to have to dance with what they have.
Buckle up, its going to be a hell of a ride.....
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I don't see much talk about Getsy. Our new head coach is a defensive guy. Getsy is unproven, he's been working with Rogers. Rogers makes everyone look better. Of course, I like most are on board with hiring from winning programs... He does carry the label of "rising star". There's talk about him being a head coach. The downside, if the bears O does well, he won't be around long...
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If he also does well, he'll leave for a HC position and the Bears will be right back in the position they always are in regarding offense.... hands on ankles bent over.....
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Eddie Goldman reportedly retiring.
Answers that old question.
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If Getsy bolts for a HC gig, that would mean that Fields is his way to being a pretty good quarterback. And that's a good thing. My guess is that they would keep the same system and promote Janocko.
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Jason Peters wants to play this year.
I think they should sign him since he was pretty serviceable last year and would be better with a training camp.
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Jason Peters wants to play this year.
I think they should sign him since he was pretty serviceable last year and would be better with a training camp.
But does he want to play for the Bears? And do the Bears think that one of their 3 options at LT could benefit from a year's experience?
I have no issues with Peters' play last season - you just need someone ready to step in WHEN he gets injured.
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I don’t think they really have anyone else for LT.
A 5th round rookie is taking a big chance and jeopardizing Fields health. They don’t seem to like either Jenkins or Borom there.
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I don’t think they really have anyone else for LT.:
Now somebody is sounding like me.
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You pay Peters a lot of money to be the "just in case" guy. Then you start the kid of your choosing. Hope that Peters won't be needed. Will Peters be happy to sit around and pull on his dick if he's not needed much?
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Haha. IMHO if Peters even plays for the Bears its an indictment that they dont know what they are doing and never intended on protecting Fields.
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https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/tom-thayer-did-not-hold-back-about-eddie-goldmans-retirement/?fbclid=IwAR0cso3_GhzXnbuXtJNCO8bcphIVE1Xp0qOn2Q280jAo9rFOheZK2BNkxLw
I called this as soon as he sat out due to Covid. Total **** ass **** who wanted to get paid but not do the work!
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Getting rid of those players and changing culture to players who want to put in the work will help build "team" and with hopefully better coaching should bring more wins. Not saying this year is our year but I do feel like Poles is moving us in right direction.
Pace allowed **** coaches to allow **** players....and it showed on the field.
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Haha. IMHO if Peters even plays for the Bears its an indictment that they dont know what they are doing and never intended on protecting Fields.
Bears did not have the draft position or the cap to find a legit starting LT. Jenkins, Borom and the rookie are all questionable options I admit.
But what you want is a pro bowler or top first round rookie to just step into the lineup for cheap. Not realistic.
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Bears did not have the draft position or the cap to find a legit starting LT. Jenkins, Borom and the rookie are all questionable options I admit.
But what you want is a pro bowler or top first round rookie to just step into the lineup for cheap. Not realistic.
Well then it makes sense to just start those rookies just to see what they have, Fields be damned. After all, such a high draft pick they are going to get next year they can always get another QB. Who cares about Fields. Their regime didnt draft him. They could care less what happens to Fields.
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Looks like el cheapo Bears are at it again:
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/jaquan-brisker-holdout-issue-bears-must-solve-soon-possible
They need Brisker in camp and ready to go. Pay the man
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/07/23/bears-rookies-quarterbacks-report-to-training-camp-2022/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=0
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/07/22/bears-s-jaquan-brisker-not-expected-at-training-camp-on-time-amid-contract-holdout/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=2
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I must have missed this but Larry Ogunjobi the Browns DT that failed his physical with the Bears signed with the Steelers last month.
It will be interesting to see what he does this season.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dlxvjlxUYw
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Is Peters next?
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Why is "husband" included as part of breaking news?
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His wife is an Olympic gold medalist
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Schofield good pass protection poor run blocking.
Let’s just say the Chargers replaced him with their first draft pick.
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Well, finally got to see the pro football HOF over the weekend and it was definitely a good trip. Was kind of surprised the busts were not real life size (always thought they were). Thought we were going on an off day but it was a madhouse. And there is a ton of construction going on, as well as touching up for the HoF game in a week. But well worth the time to go at least once.
Kind of girded for the trying season to come.......
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-proposed-soldier-field-renovations-breakdown/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=5
This was needed years ago, but stonewalled. This just makes it obvious that the city is desperate to keep the Bears from moving, which seems obvious they are going to try. The Bears
deserve a world class stadium that THEY control not the city or the park department. What the Bears deserve is what the Dallas Cowboys have. And thats not what the city is proposing.
What the Bears have is an antiquated, small piece of junk to play football in.
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Brisker and Quinn will report. Roquan holding out.
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Just signed OT Riley Reiff
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Reif and Schofield are serviceable players to help avert disaster on the OL while younger players develop.
Not too excited as both their former teams couldn't wait to get rid of them.
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isn't Reif a RT? knowing the Bears they'll try to convert him to LT.
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Just signed OT Riley Reiff
I hate to say this but Reiff is better than what they had. Maybe with decent coaching they can coach their kids up for next year
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-proposed-soldier-field-renovations-breakdown/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=5
This was needed years ago, but stonewalled. This just makes it obvious that the city is desperate to keep the Bears from moving, which seems obvious they are going to try. The Bears
deserve a world class stadium that THEY control not the city or the park department. What the Bears deserve is what the Dallas Cowboys have. And thats not what the city is proposing.
What the Bears have is an antiquated, small piece of junk to play football in.
If they can afford it, they should build it.
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Let us hope that the Riley Reiff signing means that the "Julién Davenport era" becomes something that never occurred.
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I assume Reiff will play LT, Poles or Eberflus said we'll find out tommorow.
LT: Reiff
LG: Whithair
C: Patrick
RG: schofield
RT: Borom or Jenkins
Looks like average to below average line to me now. I definitely like it better than the line we started the season with last year and the Bears have some youth/potential upside now.
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I like that assessment. At least its not a college offensive line now.
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Reiff's contract:
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxB7lRP0a37L5vRgVIs9-_m507MPSaEsic
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Mark Grote on the score said they are serious about Braxton Jones at LT.
Reid has played there (including last year with the Bengals getting Burrow killed) so he offers a choice.
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Haha, yea I get it. Fields gets killed with Reif or he gets killed with Jones. Take your pick
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Hat tip Weiderer at TC. No videos from Greg Braggs yet...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYr_ZI4XwAAnPkZ?format=jpg&name=small)
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Various tweets on day 1 (https://bearstalk.com/chicago-bears-training-camp-takeaways-day-one-2022/4/)
Cronin and Grote are good follows...
Jenkins working as a swing speaks volumes...
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Nice:
But it wasn’t good news during Thursday’s practice as Patrick left with an apparent injury, according to multiple reports. Patrick walked off with trainers but took the cart to the locker room.
Rookie Doug Kramer replaced him at center and Dieter Eiselen is working with the second team.
The Bears signed Patrick to a two-year deal worth $8 million with $4 million guaranteed in his first season. Patrick comes to Chicago with a knowledge of Luke Getsy’s scheme, which is helpful as he’ll be the one snapping the ball to quarterback Justin Fields.
There also hasn’t been any sign of offensive tackle Teven Jenkins during Thursday’s practice.
We’ll have to wait until after practice to get an update from head coach Matt Eberflus.
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There’s not even a padded practice until next Tuesday.
The difference between the old 2 a day padded practices and today’s jogging around with days off is incredible.
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Agreed. We just arent as strong a nation as in the past
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_xS08Ddw_g
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The Bears signed Lucas Patrick as a free agent this offseason to take over as their center, but his transition into that role hit a bump this week.
Patrick had to leave Thursday’s practice early after suffering an injury to his right hand. According to multiple reports, Patrick suffered a broken thumb and will need to have surgery to repair the injury.
Those reports also indicate that the current belief is that Patrick will be able to return in time to play in the season opener.
Patrick started 28 games for the Packers over the last two seasons and he made 73 overall appearances during his five years in Green Bay. He signed a two-year deal with the Bears in March.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-training-camp-offensive-line-watch-day-3/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=1
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/qb-watch-how-justin-fields-fared-on-day-3-of-bears-training-camp/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=2
Nice
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wx0LsfS4oo
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It’s hard to figure wins/losses this year.
Aside from Green Bay the only really good team on the Schedule is Buffalo.
Dallas and Miami are big unknowns. 49ers should struggle with Lance but have a good roster.
An average team could do well with this schedule.
Still there have just been too many changes to expect much.
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the big issue this year is discovering if the Bears have found a competent head coach.
Nagy was a joke.
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The Bears have received calls about trading Tevin Jenkins
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I am not in shock.
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This is funny:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2022/8/1/23287866/bears-ot-teven-jenkins-remains-out-of-practice-as-trade-talk-swirls
Different strokes for different folks. Looks like Poles doesnt like Jenkins.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-trading-teven-jenkins-would-send-clear-message-about-rebuild
This doesnt sound good.
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worthwhile read:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2022/8/1/23287901/1st-and-10-bears-defense-eager-to-push-the-envelope
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Camp reports on the Bears offense the last few practices are pretty bad.
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No shock there. Wouldnt surprise me if it lasts all season long.
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So many new moving parts on the team this year at all levels. Fully expect a bad year (record-wise) but have hope that there is growth as the season goes on. Let's see if they can build something other than a dumpster fire over the next few years.....
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/03/bears-teven-jenkins-injury-trade-response-training-camp-2022/?itm_source=parsely-api
Not much really coming out. He wasnt THEIR draft pick so just trade him and be done with it. But like anything he was a 2nd round draft pick, you dont just give him away for nothing.
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When you want to win with a new QB the idea is to ignore any protection for him but concentrate on cornerbacks that will add nothing to his protection.
It's been proven so many times in past super bowl winning teams.
Hey motherfuucker ... you say I'm on fuuckin drugs ?
You better clean the shiit out of your headgear biitch.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/03/bears-teven-jenkins-injury-trade-response-training-camp-2022/?itm_source=parsely-api
Not much really coming out. He wasnt THEIR draft pick so just trade him and be done with it. But like anything he was a 2nd round draft pick, you dont just give him away for nothing.
That's exactly what you'd get for Jenkins right now - NOTHING. Coach better figure a way to communicate with this kid. Hard to believe there's not a spot on the O-line where he couldn't start. Come on - for a while Sam Mustipher was starting ahead of Jenkins at RG. Is that putting your best 5 on the line? If you watched this kid in college you know he is a beast.
I think Eberflus was trying some tough love and it backfired.
Of course, Jenkins just might be injured.
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Of course, Jenkins just might be injured.
he might be, between his ears. So its your opinion they cant get anything for Jenkins in a trade? Is that because of the back injury?
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you don't get anything for someone who's been a flop. (I think it would be crazy to get rid of him)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fve5LUoDsEI
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Jay Cutler podcast and Brian Urlacher on and it was a great podcast. Well worth the listen. Its like just a conversation between two guys. Good stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afvxGiReO3w
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Bears tried out former first round CB Vernon Hargreaves yesterday.
He had a great rookie year then was spotty with a number on injuries.
Still he's under 30 and should be better than Vildor. Apparently they have been using Gordon at slot corner and Vildor at corner in their starting defense.
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So whats the deal is Jenkins a bust on OL?
How is the rest of the OL shaping up?
Is our WR corp amounting to anything ?
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So whats the deal is Jenkins a bust on OL?
How is the rest of the OL shaping up?
Is our WR corp amounting to anything ?
There are many camp reports on YouTube
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You cant answer those queckstions here ?
I wanna here what YOUVE got to say!
I can get BULLSHIIT stacked from me from anywhere.
Your honest answer is important.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhdTvLxHSCk
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JJ, I used to follow it all so closely. I just don't anymore because it is all bullshit. The players they hype end up being busts. We will know a little more once the pre-season starts but even though it is a mirage.
This team is so young we probably won't know what we got until 6 to 8 weeks in. Hopefully by then we will feel like the arrow is pointing up no matter the record.
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Maybe some answers here:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/06/bears-training-camp-offensive-line-not-solidified-says-luke-getsy/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=1
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/06/bears-training-camp-wide-receiver-competition-bringing-out-the-best/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=0
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so far the WR corps seems much better and deeper than I expected.
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https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2022/08/06/hes-back-teven-jenkins-is-practicing-with-the-bears-again/
Good news
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Jenkins interview today said his absence is undisclosed injury and he will practice tomorrow and be 100% in a couple of days.
He said there is no conflict with coaches.
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Kaplan said after practice receivers are easily the weakest position group.
Pringle out indefinitely but should be back for regular season.
Harry went down with a leg injury.
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Right now it looks like Mooney, Kmet, and the RBs will get the bulk of the targets. Hopefully Jones can stretch the field and rack up some YAC. Maybe St. Brown can surprise as long as he holds onto the ball. If the OL stays relatively healthy, it will be adequate because Nagy is gone. I don't believe Getsy will put Fields in harm's way standing helplessly in a collapsing 5 man protect pocket down after down like against Cleveland.
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I believe we are going back to standard Bear football. Run the ball, play action and play good defense.
The difference is Fields throws a nice deep ball. Which will open things up for the running game. The Bears always went deep off it but rarely connected. I think he will be able to make the big plays between his legs and the way he gives the WR a chance on the deep ball.
His big drawback is he fumbles a lot holding on to it to long trying to make a play.
This season will be a struggle but I think we will be happy about where we are headed.
I believe Fields is going to be the best Bears QB in my lifetime.
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if healthy - a big if - I think the receiving group is deep, Jones has already flashed his talent in camp, St Brown has been a standout and Harry is no wimp. Add Pringle an Mooney and you're 5 deep.
Newsome, Pettis, Moore, Coulter, Finke, Sharpe & Webster are fighting for 1 roster spot.
We just don't have that big name #1 reciever.
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It’s hard to tell from camp reports.
Hoge asked Jahns who he thought stood out in camp beside Mooney and he responded no one.
Other reports have various receivers individually having a good day here and there.
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Some Koolaid for JJ and the optimists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpyb3dSf83o
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Field's delivery looks a lot cleaner and quicker
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Kaplan said after practice receivers are easily the weakest position group.
Pringle out indefinitely but should be back for regular season.
Harry went down with a leg injury.
Easily? You can't evaluate interior d-line play until the preseason games. I think this group is the weakest position group with an unproven 3 technique, a 2nd year nose tackle, a journeyman and 3-4 DE.
Change my mind.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-report-card-grading-offense-defense-through-two-training-camp-weeks
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KC Chiefs @ Chicago Bears on Saturday at 1pm ET
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New Matt meets QB coach old Matt and we see our first action of the year. Can't wait.....
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One of his comments were that they envision Happ and Suzuki as corner the corner outfielders next year.
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One of his comments were that they envision Happ and Suzuki as corner the corner outfielders next year.
Please!!! we're already trying to tolerate one nightmare fandom without getting the cubs into the picture.
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Sorry. Missed it by THIS much.
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You should be on the Bears board anyway.
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Speaking of Heyward, Sharpe has a golden opportunity to grab a roster spot with all the WR injuries. As much chemistry as Fields has with Mooney, he does like those taller bigger targets like him, EQ, and Harry once he get healthy.
The first few weeks of the season the Bears will definitely be run heavy and I think they will be successful with that while Fields adjusts to the new offense that is catered to him.
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Roquan requests a trade
If true, adding de-escalators in a contract is the most idiotic thing that Poles has done so far...
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I wonder if Poles did all that contract stuff because Roquan doesnt have an agent and is representing himself.
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Let's see. The last regime came in and pissed Brian Urlacher off to the point of retirement (he deserved a better ending to his career than he got from the last Ryan). Now the new Ryan pisses off Roquan (not a Brian Urlacher but still a very good player). Whats old is new again. I always had a bad feeling the McCasket hired who he did because he wouldn't have to remember a new name :D
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I don't think I've ever heard of an NFL player trying to get a new contract requesting a trade.
He's one of maybe 2 players on the Bears that are pro-bowl quality - work it out Poles.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/roquan-smiths-trade-request-offers-bears-regime-two-paths-forward
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I don't think Smith is the best LBer in the NFL. But he's among the elite.
I don't buy that the staff doesn't know if he'll fit into the new defense or he might not be around when the team gels. HE'S 25! He's got another 5 or 6 years at least.
Injuries and salary cap are the worst parts of the NFL.
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De-escalators are insulting for a player of Roquan's caliber and that was stupid on Poles part because no one with a contract average of $15+ million has that. OTOH, I don't necessarily think he worth more than Warner (5/95, 40 guar) or Leonard (5/98, 52 guar). If they are hovering in and around that mark, then fine, let the market determine a fair value. If Roquan's uncle is whispering for Watt money, then sayonara. That said, Roquan needs to finish out his contract to become a FA if nothing is signed. The Bears could tag him next season. So the Bears hold the leverage. And they won't give him away either.
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If he is a FA next year then they cant hold him either and if they are as cheap as they seem right now they havent got enough money to tag him. Igorantly stupid.
Why would anyone expect to pay a Roquan when the McCaskets need money to put into that new stadium?
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Has Poles or Roquan ever negotiated a 2nd contract? Eventually they'll meet somewhere in the middle.
But next year Bears will have the money to do whatever they please.
And as far as the Bears budget - they regularly spend up to the cap and they will again this year as well as next year.
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I know this is kool-aid talk, but it would be amazing if Poles actually found a better than average starting LT in the 5th round and 2 stud starters in the secondary. If DomRob and Velus develop and pan out, that is an outstanding draft and it bodes well for future drafts. Reiff basically said that he is expecting to start at RT even though he prefers LT. I really do like Roquan but he is not Urlacher. If someone offers a 1st rounder, I would seriously consider it.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/10/bears-cordarrelle-patterson-suggests-falcon-trade-for-roquan-smith/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=1
Not that Smith can choose where he ends up — barring signing an extension with Chicago — in a potential trade. But that didn’t stop Patterson for putting the idea out there for Falcons brass, which happens to include former Bears general manager Ryan Pace, who drafted Smith back in 2018.
NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport believes that Smith could fetch as much as a first-round pick — and maybe more — if the Bears opt to trade him.
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https://news.yahoo.com/twitter-reacts-bears-lb-roquan-131927714.html
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You really think they don’t have the payroll room to tag him?
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Why would they waste money tagging him when they want all rookies that they can mold?
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As much as I like Roquan…if the Falcons offer their 1st rounder, I’m all over that…
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I just don’t see the Falcons giving a first round pick when they have Marriotta at QB.
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If they're gonna do it, do it now. Burn the whole thing down and restart, again....for the twentieth time ::) ::) ::)
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As much as I like Roquan…if the Falcons offer their 1st rounder, I’m all over that…
Now you are talking common sense. If the Bears dont want to pay the man because he wasnt THEIR player or CHOICE then there is surely someone else that will
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Falcons have Desmond Ridder at QB as well…
I wouldn’t expect them to offer their #1, but I’d take it…should be a top 10 pick…
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And IMHO so will be the Bears be a top 10 pick too, maybe even top 5.
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-training-camp-2022-bears-lb-roquan-smith-requests-trade-131127346.html
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Seattle have a pair of 1st and 2nd rounders next year...
And Roquan is delusional if he thinks that the Bears or a trade partner are going to pay him $22m per and blow past Leonard's deal. Unfortunately, he doesn't have an agent to tell him that and the pop up uncles and cousins and Abella are probably whispering to him to make that a baseline.
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My understanding is that Poles offered a contract that would make roquan the highest paid middle/weak side LB but had de-escalators to bring him below that.
I think Roquan is a good player, but he hasnt been a difference maker yet. I dont think a good team gives a player of his caliber a record setting deal. That being said, I hope they come to a deal a little below the top tier. Bears have so much money to spend that I'd be ok with an overpay to keep a guy they drafted and has been solid.
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What are the de0escalators, and how do they work?
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What are the de0escalators, and how do they work?
The opposite of bonuses. Roquan would have signed the biggest contract of any MLB, but if he failed to meet some sort of minimum production they set for him the pay would reduce. That's how Poles can call the contract "record breaking" in size for the position but Roquan would probably not see the entire package.
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I see no problem with either performance bonuses or performance anti-bonuses. If he doesn't want to sign, he can say no. And I don't care in the slightest what either side calls it.
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I see no problem with either performance bonuses or performance anti-bonuses. If he doesn't want to sign, he can say no. And I don't care in the slightest what either side calls it.
Yeah, the drama about the de-escalators is weird. De-escalators and bonuses are basically the same thing worded differently. In both you have a minimum salary and if you meet certain criteria you get paid more.
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N'Keal Harry having ankle surgery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjjIQ29b0kA
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/11/bears-robert-quinn-praises-braxton-jones-training-camp/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=1
Looks like Poles has found gold in the 5th round. Getting compliments from the likes of Robert Quinn means a lot.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-training-camp-wide-receivers-to-target-in-free-agent-injuries/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezyx3trf6-Y
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Quinn on Jones.
He said he was athletic. That he has confidence in himself.
Can't we wait until at least the first preseason game until we anoint the next Jimbo Covert?
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I sure never anointed Jones in any comparison to Jimbo Covert.
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Maybe Dallas should read this:
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/how-bears-braxton-jones-has-impressed-robert-quinn-during-camp-battles.
There is more than just hope in this.
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Tomorrow we see what it's all about.
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Finally!! Some football!
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FINALLY A WIN !
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Bombshell:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/15/bears-are-trying-teven-jenkins-at-right-guard/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=8
This could be a game changer.
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Sounds like Jenkins at RG and Borom at RT for Thursday. TBH, I wouldn't mind if they bubble wrap Brisker for the rest of the preseason games...
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https://sports.yahoo.com/bears-teven-jenkins-practiced-starters-163611988.html
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Its kind of wierd but I was talking with some friends and it came up about when they had lost faith in the Nagy/Pace regime. I went back over the last few HCs and when we just knew they were "done".
Lovie- When Mike Martz was named OC. You just knew it would be a problem. Didn't use TEs. Allow Cutler to get pummeled with 7 step drops. When Martz was hired, I felt that Lovie would never "get it" when it comes to offense. Of course failing to make the playoffs at 10-6 with Mike Tice as OC later was wierd enough and got him fired, but you sometimes make your own bad luck....
Trestman- When he admonished the defense to stop batting balls down in practice sessions. That alone showed how bad he was.....
Nagy- the I didn't come to Chicago to run the T formation (or something to that effect- can't recall exactly) comment. You run what works. Until it doesn't. Truly over his head no doubt.
Just some random thoughts on this rainy Saturday.... :D
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I new Nagy was nuts when they let Jordan Howard go saying he “didn’t fit the system “
This was after Howard repeatedly bailed out the offense.
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Lets hope that is the end of the Mike Brown comparisons:
Bears rookie safety Jaquan Brisker underwent surgery to repair a hand injury.
Coach Matt Eberflus said the team hopes Brisker can return in time for the season opener Sept. 11 against the 49ers.
“We’re hopeful that he’ll be back,” Eberflus said, via Chris Emma of 670 The Score. “We’ll find out here shortly.”
Brisker injured his hand against the Chiefs last week, but the injury wasn’t diagnosed until a day later when he reported pain in his right thumb.
He did not practice this past week or play in Thursday’s preseason game against the Seahawks.
Brisker, a second-round selection, is expected to start for the Bears this season.
DeAndre Houston-Carson will fill in until Brisker returns.
Bears running back Khalil Herbert left practice Saturday on a cart, but Eberflus did not provide an update on his status.
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I dont believe this but he is an insider:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/22/bears-teven-jenkins-trade-speculation-adam-schefter-2022-nfl-season/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=0
If it does happen I would expect a 2nd round pick back. It would have to be high enough to excite Poles. It would have to be a desperation move by some team that we dont see coming.
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Interesting:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-training-camp-takeaways-after-conclusion-of-summer-justin-fields/
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I don't know what exactly happened between Eberflus and Tevin Jenkins but I'm glad its almost over. Same thing with Roquan Smith.
Media tries to get everyone hyped up.
Yawn.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUtZ4nysNLw
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They cut Jake Bargas so I assume that means Blasingame is healthy...
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A fifth rounder is all?
https://sports.yahoo.com/bills-cody-ford-trade-indicator-222000690.html
Might as well keep him and use him at RG.
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the whole Bears are looking to trade Jenkins was a made up rumor by a sleazy sports reporter.
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-futures-odds-bettors-hate-the-chicago-bears-this-season-174451492.html
This is a more detailed description of the Bears season than I saw before.
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That's much worse than even I think they'll be. 6 or 7 wins is about right but dang, all the other bets being totally lopsided against them....wow....
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I think they will get better as the season goes along but, man, that OL needs practice.
Installing a new defense will have growing pains too. Ana
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I'm getting optimistic with the OL. If the coaches are right about Braxton Jones, if Lucas Patrick gets healthy and no one else goes down then I'm happy.
No true #1 WR, but the rest of the offense rests on the shoulders of Fields, this year should tell us he's the guy.
The defense concerns me more, particularly the front 7. Recently it's been the DBs that have been a weakness.
Most importantly this year we find out if the Bears actually have found coaches whose heads aren't up their asses.
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It will be very difficult to assess the offensive line as a whole as long as Mustipher is playing.
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We should have a good assessment Saturday night when the starters play the 1st half.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/25/bears-mike-martz-believes-justin-fields-has-been-set-up-for-failure/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=2
"It’s going to be a rough career for (Fields) there. And I’ve seen a lot of really good players go to bad teams, and then their career just never takes off, and I think that’s what will happen with Fields."
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Well, when it comes to ruining playing careers Martz is a master, I guess I should listen in that respect.
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The Bears were Martz'ed when he somehow managed to not be able to use Greg Olsen in an offense. He was clueless and stuck in what had worked in the past and not able to adjust to the NFL as it was at that time. And nothing's changed. He's still clueless and not able to understand the NFL as it is at this time........
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I saw Martz sometime the last few years as a coach in one of the new leagues.
He clearly doesn’t know the Bears staff and players. There is some merit to what he says but I’m confident the leadership won’t let that happen. They seem to be adaptable not “system “ coaches. At worst I see Fields rolling out a lot and throwing the ball away but I don’t see his career ruined. With Nagy I would be in more agreement with Martz but not these guys.
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Well, Martz isn't wrong. Fields will most likely be ruined because they don't understand QBs-plain and simple. There's so much constant turnover also that messes QBs up. Offensive coords in and out, HC in and out, it's ridiculous. Halas has been a revolving door....
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Jeez, give the new guys at least a chance to fail.
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We'll see. Bears have not made solid choices on much the last couple decades plus. This is why Vegas sees more fail than hope for the Bears future. They cannot get it figured out....
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We all talk about the unknowns at O-line and WR but the BIGGEST unknown is Fields. O-line will be serviceable. Same with the WRs. But I haven't seen anything from Fields so far that makes me believe he can lift this team to a new level.
I hope I'm wrong.
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We all talk about the unknowns at O-line and WR but the BIGGEST unknown is Fields. O-line will be serviceable. Same with the WRs. But I haven't seen anything from Fields so far that makes me believe he can lift this team to a new level.
I hope I'm wrong.
I hope you are right ! (about being wrong that is).... :D
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tape review of Dieter Eiselen (he's good, needs work hiking the ball in shotgun):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WIcRqElhpA
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Is he not Sam Mustipher? That's good enough for me.
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From Greg Gabriel (https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2022/8/26/23323661/chicago-bears-cleveland-browns-teven-jenkins-matt-eberflus-justin-fields-preseason-sam-mustipher)
What will be interesting is to see what players, if any will be placed on injured reserve next week. Remember this; if the player is placed on IR during the cut to 53, he is out for the season. In order for a player to come back in as little as four games, he has to be placed on injured reserve AFTER the team cuts the roster to 53. Because we don’t know the severity of these injuries, candidates for IR could be wide receivers N’Keal Harry and Byron Pringle and corners Thomas Graham and Tavon Young. Some of these players may be ready to practice next week, but we are left guessing because the Bears don’t have to disclose any of this information.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyRrbB3JqB4
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Meh. Its preseason. I saw Tanner Gentry last night dropping passes for another team. He was a camp favorite too.
Don't get me wrong, it would be all gold if this LB is really the goods. Time will tell but until then color me skeptical....
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My prediction on 2022 Bears Roster:
Offense -26
WR Darnell Mooney Velus Jones Jr. Dante Pettis
LT Braxton Jones Riley Reiff
LG Cody Whitehair Lachavious Simmons
C Lucas Patrick Sam Mustipher
RG Teven Jenkins Dieter Eiselen
RT Larry Borom Shon Coleman
TE Cole Kmet Ryan Griffin James O’Shaughnessy
WR EQ St. Brown Byron Pringle N’Keal Harry Tajae Sharpe
QB Justin Fields Trevor Siemian
RB David Montgomery Khalil Herbert Trestan Ebner
FB Khari Blasingame
N’Keal Harry will be put on 4 game IR and either Tajae Sharpe or Pettis signed afterward
Defense -24
DE Robert Quinn Al-Quadin Muhammad Dominique Robinson
DT Justin Jones Khyiris Tonga
DT Angelo Blackson Mike Pennel
DE Trevis Gipson Mario Edwards
LB Nicholas Morrow Jack Sanborn
LB Roquan Smith Matthew Adams
LB Joe Thomas Caleb Johnson
CB Jaylon Johnson Tavon Young Thomas Graham
CB Kyler Gordon Kindle Vildor
S Eddie Jackson DeAndre Houston Carson
S Jaquan Brisker Davontae Harris (my surprise pick)
Practice squad Elijah Hicks, Zachary Thomas, Ja’Tyre Carter, Chase Allen, Darrynton Evans, Jake Tonges, Trevon Coley, Charles Snowden
Special Teams -3
P Trenton Gill
K Cairo Santos
LS Patrick Scales
H Trenton Gill, Trevor Siemian
KR Velus Jones, Trestan Ebner
PR Velus Jones, Nsimba Webster
Noteable cuts: Sam Kamara, Duke Shelley
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Poles said the final roster would change a lot from the players they have now, meaning he intends to sign other backups from roster cuts.
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Get ready, it looks like Vildor will be the starting left corner.
They want Gordon in the slot where he can rush the passer and be more disruptive.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsClekqZYeo
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If Vildor is starting at LCB, hopefully that means we’ll be looking hard at the waiver wire.
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Already floor sweepings. For God's sake!
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Mario Edwards is being released.
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If Vildor is starting at LCB, hopefully that means we’ll be looking hard at the waiver wire.
Agreed
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/why-bears-may-not-have-found-starting-offensive-line-just-yet
"Fact of the matter is, there’s still going to be some significant roster churn for the Bears after teams across the league cut down to 53 players. Ryan Poles and Ian Cunningham are each former offensive linemen and will certainly have their eyes on the waiver wires this week. It wouldn’t be surprising to see players from Poles’ and Cunningham’s former teamsー the Chiefs and the Eaglesー in Halas Hall, so the starter at right tackle, or right guard, may not be on the team yet."
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/why-bears-may-not-have-found-starting-offensive-line-just-yet
"Fact of the matter is, there’s still going to be some significant roster churn for the Bears after teams across the league cut down to 53 players. Ryan Poles and Ian Cunningham are each former offensive linemen and will certainly have their eyes on the waiver wires this week. It wouldn’t be surprising to see players from Poles’ and Cunningham’s former teamsー the Chiefs and the Eaglesー in Halas Hall, so the starter at right tackle, or right guard, may not be on the team yet."
If there are better linemen out there than what we have now. Go get them.
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Year 1 for Management
Year 2 for QB
Building year this year.
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From what has been seen in the pre season and our accumulated love for this team without any prejudice ...
how the fuuck do you think our chances improved after Fields tossed 3 rocks for TDs?
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I take things in a different light. The preseason is just that. It doesnt go in any record book. OTOH, I look at who we played and what the matchups were. Starters vs starters or backups. So I just cant get too excited
about this 3-0 preseason. Like it was said above this is one year into the rebuild. This is a baby step.
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I take things in a different light. The preseason is just that. It doesnt go in any record book. OTOH, I look at who we played and what the matchups were. Starters vs starters or backups. So I just cant get too excited
about this 3-0 preseason. Like it was said above this is one year into the rebuild. This is a baby step.
The problem is Fields and the OL impressed the hell out of me.
Have we turned a corner?
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Impossible to say
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https://www.chicagobears.com/news/roster-moves-bears-reach-nfl-s-53-man-roster-limit
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I really can't believe Duke Shelley made the team again.
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Jesper Horstead sticks with the Raiders...
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Interesting:
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-53-man-roster-5-players-ryan-poles-could-sign-after-roster-cuts
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Lookie what I just found:
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/report-bears-stadium-announcement-could-be-end-calendar-year
https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2022/08/30/a-chicago-bears-move-to-arlington-heights-its-a-matter-of-when-not-if/
So they havent closed on the land yet. OK. And I would guess that they are years away from a move
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Jesper Horstead sticks with the Raiders...
I always liked Horstead. I would have liked to see him coupled with an offensive coordinator that knew how to use tight ends, and a quarterback who knew how to throw.
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Preseason doesn't mean much, but, winning is a culture. Ask yourself, would you feel better about the team if they were 0 and 3 during preseason. They need to surprise San Fran. I know it's a tall order, but... 7 point dogs at home first game of the season, brutal...
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To ask for a win the second game is pipe dreaming.. Prime time game at Green Bay.. Fukk!!
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The Bears were the NFL’s most active team on the waiver wire.
Chicago claimed six players who were cut by other teams yesterday: Offensive lineman Alex Leatherwood, defensive tackle Armani Watts, defensive back Josh Blackwell, defensive end Kingsley Johnathan, linebacker Sterling Weatherford and tight end Trevin Wesco.
The biggest name of the bunch is Leatherwood, the 2021 first-round pick of the Raiders. Las Vegas tried and failed to trade Leatherwood, and if he had passed through waivers the Raiders would have been stuck with the remaining $5.9 million on his contract. But now the Bears will pay that.
It’s not a great sign for Chicago’s depth that more than 10 percent of their 53-man roster will be made up of players who were cut by other teams, but the Bears decided to be aggressive on the day after roster cutdown day.
The Bears will now have to release six other players to make room for these six new arrivals.
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Bears signed Alex Leatherwood.
I’m curious to see what they do with him. What I saw of him with the Raiders was really bad and I can’t see him playing any time soon. Maybe practice squad?
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If you're Googling, the DT is ARMON Watts, not Armani.
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Just picking through other teams trash hoping to find a useable item or two. Nothing of any substance and may not be worth cutting the trash they already have.....
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I am very much looking forward to seeing Armon Watts pis$ off a lot of Viking fans. He was a surprise cut. 5 sack at DT is nothing to sneeze at...
I do like Tonga though and hopefully he can make it back to PS.
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Watts only played 56% of the Vikings' defensive snaps, and had 5 sacks and 2 forced fumbles.
Nice get!
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Weatherford is listed as a 6'4, 224lb safety. Big bodied, aggressive, but smart...form tackler who hits hard, forces drops at catch point, mobility and speed less than good, though (4.6 40)
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Wesco was a 4th rounder by the jets in 2019. 6'3, 267lbs, better run blocker than pass blocker, caught 6 passes in 3 years for Jets...
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Weatherford played safety in college.
Wesco is a bum.
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@RapSheet
A few notes:
— The #Bears were the only team to put a claim in on Alex Leatherwood.
— Ex-#Jets TE Trevon Wesco was the most popular, as four teams (#Browns, #Colts, #Bengals, #Bears) tried to claim him. He landed in Chicago.
8:44 PM · Aug 31, 2022
@JJStankevitz
@Colts GM Chris Ballard says losing LB Sterling Weatherford – who was claimed on waivers by the Bears today – was a "hard one." Team liked him.
3:15 PM · Aug 31, 2022
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzTD1ngJBNg
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Well the roster churn continues. Some of the new additions appear to have been well-liked by fans of the teams they came from. And appear to have potential. Can any of these realize that potential is the key question.
I see a lot of "surprise" from the media that the Bears have been so active, as Poles said he would be. And if they have been correct all off-season, that the Bears have the worst talent level in the league (which I highly doubt- they have some of the most UNPROVEN talent in the league for sure) then it should be no surprise they are that active.
Just another media narrative to keep eyeballs on the writer.
Got a weird feeling about this team- they can be good. Sneaky good. Or absolutely a dumpster fire. Or something in between. In short, I have no **** clue and I don't think anyone outside the building does either :D
GO BEARS !!
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The question is can these coaches develop players. We know Nagy and his staffs could NOT. I just have a feeling this group is going to get the most out of these guys. For example if they can get Leatherwood to perform like he did in college, that would be a huge score. He at least has the raw talent, now lets coach it up. Go Bears.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/02/bears-ryan-poles-clears-up-teven-jenkins-trade-rumors/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=0
I think this was posted above, but not sure, But this is the written form.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-53-man-roster-updated-analysis-2022/
Good read
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Ted Phillips - he gone.
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At the end of February at least.
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Great news on Sweaty Teddy. See ya.
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Gotta say this Trey L and Jimmy G drama not a bad thing for Bears. Any distraction for an opponent from the game, is a good thing.
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Ted should've been gone years ago..
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From The Family's perspective, he did a terrific job. The Bears are now valued at $5.8 billion with the smallest stadium in the league they don't even own. While I would like to see Virginia hold on for one more SB win, when she does cross over to the other side things get really interesting. The kids are reportedly anxious to cash out ASAP new stadium be damned. But Tim Ryan and Andy McKenna are the second biggest shareholder. They "hold the right-of-first-refusal (https://web.archive.org/web/20220623055324/https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20210526/jim-odonnell-next-owner-of-the-bears---pat-ryan-jeff-bezos-or-neil-bluhm) as 'primary investor' if any of the McCaskey stock comes up for sale."
As for the new president, will it a corporate dude or will it be an outside "football guy?" Poles did his homework knowing he had the Vikings job in his back pocket. For all I know he probably required George's promise in writing that he would only answer to ownership and not some damn accountant posing as president. IMO, that is why I find it hard to believe people like Armstrong, Manning, or Khan would be even considered. The McCaskeys will always default to actions that feel most comfortable to them.
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This doesnt bode well IMHO:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-looking-two-different-offensive-122512975.html
Here it is the season beginning week and you are still dickering around with the OLine.
That exposes a lack of continuity and cohesiveness.
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This doesnt sound good to me. Leave Soldier for another bandbox?
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/05/chicago-bears-arlington-heights-stadium-capacity-speculation/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=7
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I dont like the sound of this either.
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/06/bears-betting-odds-open-as-underdogs-against-49ers-week-1/
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An Offensive Line that rolls out to the side that Fields rolls out to ... hmmmm...
meanwhile Fields does a lateral to Montgomery on the other side of the field.
It could work ! ;D
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very preliminary plans on stadium land (https://www.chicagobears.com/arlington-park/)
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very preliminary plans on stadium land (https://www.chicagobears.com/arlington-park/)
I agree that this is way better than just a duplicate of Soldier Field. But the link I posted above says the stadium would only be less than 70K. You arent holding a Super Bowl in a venue of only 70K.
IMHO it would be very stupid to build something that is as small as 70K.
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Your just going from one bandbox to another. Makes no sense. Use Dallas as your model, including parking. You won’t regret it
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcAOMrAXwAAwu1f?format=jpg&name=small)
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I agree that this is way better than just a duplicate of Soldier Field. But the link I posted above says the stadium would only be less than 70K. You arent holding a Super Bowl in a venue of only 70K.
IMHO it would be very stupid to build something that is as small as 70K.
Sofi Stadium holds 70,240. Allegiant Stadium holds 65,000 (expandable to 71,835).
They are obviously not going to build a stadium that would automatically exclude them from being considered as a Super Bowl host.
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"We shall see, said the blind man"
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This may be a duplicate of what was already posted above. If so please accept my apology but i am very interested and this is a different source meaning its getting wide attention
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/06/bears-release-open-letter-renderings-for-arlington-heights-property/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=6
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Underdogs to Frisco in our own fuucking house.
The time to end this travesty of our beloved BEARRSSE is now by the performance of the team.
Lets end this being taken for granted as perpetual losers.
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Baby steps for the new regime. Week 1 surprises happen all the time- it seems to take 3-4 weeks until things begin to shake themselves out a little......
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I think it’s going to be the second half of the season before we see them play their best.
Everything I’ve seen shows they need more coaching.
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Interesting view from outside Beardom....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UahWes65xDc
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/chicago-bears-stadium-arlington-heights-181000527.html
From the Trib is says
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-arlington-park-plan-three-050000972.html
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NFL network has that Start 'em/Situp 'em piece.
I think they had Justin Fields as the 2nd or 3rd Sit 'em QB. Trey Lance was the #2 or #3 Start 'em QB.
They did have Cole Kmet as the #1 Start 'em TE. Didn't see any other Bears or 49ers in either category.
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If they put in a dome, it had better be retractable. Otherwise they are idiots (a full dome would suck). But knowing the McCaskets, smart isn't their strong suit.
They can probably shave off 1/2 a billion from the construction cost going with a fixed roof. Though they will be spending (mostly) other folks money so its kind of a moot point. Come to think of it, maybe not using your own money is smart after all ? :D
It better seat way more than 60K SF currently does though.......
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If they put in a dome, it had better be retractable. Otherwise they are idiots (a full dome would suck). But knowing the McCaskets, smart isn't their strong suit.
They can probably shave off 1/2 a billion from the construction cost going with a fixed roof. Though they will be spending (mostly) other folks money so its kind of a moot point. Come to think of it, maybe not using your own money is smart after all ? :D
It better seat way more than 60K SF currently does though.......
No one ever parked a loser in a new sports stadium.
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Bears cut Sam Kamala and Mike Pennel leaving only 3 DT’s.
That should mean they’re signing others.
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Though they will be spending (mostly) other folks money so its kind of a moot point. Come to think of it, maybe not using your own money is smart after all ?
Where is this coming from? All I have heard is that it will be funded by the Bears. They will own the stadium.
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Signed DL Mike Pennel Jr. to the practice squad and promoted him to the active roster. Promoted OL Dieter Eiselen to the active roster from the practice squad.
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Well today is the day to see if the Bears are the Lucy to Bears' fans Charlie Brown. Let's see what they can do now that the games count. Every team is tied for first place.
Remember, pain is fleeting, fame is forever (wound up watching Conan the Barbarian movie last night by accident-it always sucks me in). What is best in life ? Crush your enemies, kill their menfolk and hear the lamentations of their women !
What's this got to do with the Bears ? Nothing. And everything :D
Go Bears !
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Counted out as some backwater harbor **** in search of a john to give a blowjob ...
THE CHICAGO BEARS gave rise to an identity change in the year of our Lord 2022.
Like ... these motherfuuckers might just be for real. >:( :D ;D
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What is also the sweetest taste of victory is the fact that the MEDIA to a man and women counted us out as a forgone conclusion that we were going to lose to Frisco.
We WILL be talked about as the upset of the weekend on Monday.
Next stop : GREEN BAY !! Man ... you gotta tell those motherfuuckers in the MEDIA ... TO GET FUUCKED !!
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OK Jackie whats the score going to be next week against the Pack in Green Bay? Lets hear it.
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Apparently, the man on the moon is enjoying his block of green cheese today... ;D ;D ;D
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First week or two is always a crapshoot. That said, it was good to see some adjustments for the win...
The Good:
1. This team may not be the most talented, but they seem to be coached well. The fact that they didn't have a ton of penalties like they've gotten in past years is a step up itself....
2. You mean you can adjust in the 2nd half ? Go figure....
3. Eddie Jackson redeems himself. I don't know who said it but "you can **** up once and awhile, but ya gotta make up for it !"....
4. Two of the best offensive plays came when Fields said "**** that play ! I'm going to wing this thing". I've got a strange feeling that the 9ers wish Lance had done some of that himself but Shanahan (like his dad) is a control freaks so I think he's kind of beaten that out of Lance.....
5. When was the last time the Bears won by more than a score with no field goals or defensive touchdowns/safeties ?
The Bad:
1. Obviously, the weather. It kind of makes it hard to handicap this game.
2. they play a very pissed off Packers team next week. In primetime. That will be a game that will try Bear fan's souls.....
The Ugly:
1. What was it with that Nagy-esque offensive plan ? No planned roll-outs ? Keep Fields in the pocket. I had flashbacks to last year over and over again. Maybe the condition of the field had something to do with that, but it felt wrong....
2. Cairo Santos ? That had to be the field conditions (both misses on that side of the field) as he hit the earlier extra point. But hope its not the start of a trend....
Great win were everybody wrote off the Bears. Lots to work on still. And the arrow appears pointed upward. Buckle up. Its going to be a bumpy ride....
Go Bears !
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If we can hit Rogers as hard and as often as the Vikes did, we will have a shot. He got pummeled, and frankly I loved it.
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Both of their tackles were out and early indications are Bakhtiari is very questionable at best against the Bears.
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If we can hit Rogers as hard and as often as the Vikes did, we will have a shot. He got pummeled, and frankly I loved it.
Ding, ding, ding. Best part of the game win or lose. Even were the Bears to lose next Sunday, beating up Rodgers will make the game meaningful and enjoyable to watch.
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Wanna know what's scary ?
Poles ... Eberflus ... Getz ...
After ONE GAME ... have we settled in to a boring winning strategy like the PACK or the PATS ?
Well I fuuckin hope so. :) :D
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https://sports.yahoo.com/mike-martz-takes-shot-bears-113552062.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=0_00
Martz definitely has an axe to grind on the Bears.
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Talk about scary? This is really scary:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-delivered-one-leagues-best-193702686.html
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Talk about scary? This is really scary:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-delivered-one-leagues-best-193702686.html
Braxton gave up one sack and Tevin the other. If Patrick supplants Mustipher this group will be even better.
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Interesting to read:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-vs-packers-nfl-week-2-matchup-facts/
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How about Thunderstorms forecast for Green Bay Sunday Night
https://www.wunderground.com/forecast/us/wi/green-bay
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might make the game more interesting
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That was one of the biggest takes from that game (for me). Lack of penalties...
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That was one of the biggest takes from that game (for me). Lack of penalties...
No looking to the sideline for plays no time out due to confusion halftime adjustments
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Starts at 1 hour 23 min. It's a long interview, but refreshingly honest and will definitely take you down memory lane...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgQ_EYtV2Rk
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Wow, the offensive line one of the best performances. The first 28 minutes of the first half sure didn't look like it. But after we weathered the initial storm (in performance), it sure seemed like we found our footing.
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These BEARRSSE after one game seem not to be grabowski or slobbermouth ... but Professional.
What the Patriots were.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/16/nfl-analyst-says-chicago-bears-are-barely-a-professional-football-team/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=4
Bart who? Bart Star? I thought not.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-packers-game-predictions-week-2-nfl-2022-season/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=5
I could make a case either way. Personally, I dont think the Packers WR corp is good enough without Adams. If I am the Bears I put some motivational stuff in the locker room, like "I own you" all over. Build a fire and
hope it burns strong in Lamblow.
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Scott is a former Jet. That's all you need to know.....
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Gonna be 30-10 Pack. This is never a good game for the Bears and this weekend won't change that....hope I'm wrong, know I'm not.....
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If we lose in Green Bay its a learning experience by a revamped organization.
Which we all can agree to is the one we have been looking for.
If we lose the next five in a row then I may be wrong.
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Can we beat the Texans ?
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Run the ball and control the clock. Then I think we win, and stay in first place..
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Run the ball and control the clock. Then I think we win, and stay in first place..
The pisser is we ran the ball right up the middle of G.B. defense ... SCORED ...
and then got away from it. ??? ??? ???
And it wasn't because they stopped the run either.
We just went on this " PROVE FIELDS IN PASSING " and it fell flat. >:(
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I know we have a winning record but ...
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Interesting article today about how Justin Fields changed a lot of what plays at the line (maybe emphasizing run vs the defense when applicable). You've got to admit, the run WAS working after all.....
https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/lucas-patrick-reveals-the-silent-hero-behind-bears-dominant-run-game/
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There's so much holding going on these days. As long as you don't wrap your arm around a defender your not going to get called for a penalty.
As for Fields, I see nothing different from last year. No quick passes, little pocket presence, when he runs he rarely looks downfield to throw, and he just waits and waits in the pocket. Same stuff we criticized Trubisky with. And oh yeah, when he does have protection - accuracy and velocity is not consistent.
He'll get the year to figure it out unless Eberflus has seen enough and bails on him and goes to the backup.
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From the Trib-
The sample size remains small, but the Bears have some jarring statistics. They are averaging 78.3 net passing yards, last in the NFL. The 31st-ranked Carolina Panthers average 161.3. The Bears’ 8.9% interception rate is more than double that of 29 teams. The only others are the New England Patriots (5.2%) and Los Angeles Rams (4.9%). The Bears’ 22.8% sack rate per pass attempt is more than double that of 28 teams. Next on the list are the New York Giants (14.1%), Cincinnati Bengals (12%) and Washington Commanders (11.5%).
The Bears are twice as bad as the next lowest team in net passing yards. That's a horrific stat. This cannot continue or they'll be forced to change at QB....
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From the Trib-
The sample size remains small, but the Bears have some jarring statistics. They are averaging 78.3 net passing yards, last in the NFL. The 31st-ranked Carolina Panthers average 161.3. The Bears’ 8.9% interception rate is more than double that of 29 teams. The only others are the New England Patriots (5.2%) and Los Angeles Rams (4.9%). The Bears’ 22.8% sack rate per pass attempt is more than double that of 28 teams. Next on the list are the New York Giants (14.1%), Cincinnati Bengals (12%) and Washington Commanders (11.5%).
The Bears are twice as bad as the next lowest team in net passing yards. That's a horrific stat. This cannot continue or they'll be forced to change at QB....
Yeah I always change the Q.B. when the team has a winning record. ;D
They fuuckin established the run and scored at G.B. and then drifted away from it.
Against the Texans they ESTABLISHED the run. :D
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You can't be one dimensional. Yeah, you can squeak by the Houston's but you won't be competitive against the stronger teams in the NFL.
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You can't be one dimensional. Yeah, you can squeak by the Houston's but you won't be competitive against the stronger teams in the NFL.
You mean like Frisco ?
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LOL
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I really think they do these youngsters a disservice making them play right away. If I were the Bears I would go back to the developing the young QB's for a couple of years on the bench. Make sure they are ready before feeding them to the wolves.
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Maybe a few games or so watching but ultimately at some point you stop learning when you are holding a clipboard.
Recall last year, Fields was only brought in on a few plays a game until Dalton pulled something against the Bengals. Fields almost lost the game singlehandedly.
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I really think they do these youngsters a disservice making them play right away. If I were the Bears I would go back to the developing the young QB's for a couple of years on the bench. Make sure they are ready before feeding them to the wolves.
I've actually wondered whether the way they are handling Fields is some sort of hybrid "sitting while playing" approach.
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Agree with Hiber. The successful and traditional way of bringing in a QB was to sit them and let them learn behind a seasoned vet. We don't have that unfortunately but it's still the best route to go....
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I think the plug and play success of Justin Herbert obliterated any last sense of patience that fans have in the development of the QB. If Dalton was healthy for 17 games , Nagy would have started him for all 17 games...or until he felt his job was in any danger. I am as big a fan of JF1 as any. But it is truly disturbing that he is actually worse now than he was last year...so far.
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All four BEARRSSE quarterbacks lost. 8)
Justin Fields
Mitchell Trubisky
Brian Hoyer
Andy Dalton
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I know he hasn't played this season but Nick Foles is probably better than all those guys.
Remember last year he went into Seattle and threw for 250 yards. 98.5 rating 1 TD no picks and he was sacked 4 times. Bears average 2.9 on the ground for 88 yards. Offense put up 25.
Was last year's offense that much better than this years?
Justin Fields' problem is between the ears. He has the talent - he has no confidence in himself or his receivers.
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A tale of two head scratching drop offs ...
Russell Wilson from Seattle,
Justin Fields from Ohio State.
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Interesting conversation with Thomas Jones about an hour in. Interesting stuff.....
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr6PeHk-tVRBmTMp8xDG49A
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We have yet to lose at home.
Pessimist Bears fans can you tell us how we will ?
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....now you know......
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"What the **** was THAT ?"
Should be made into a T-shirt with the Bears logo on it :D
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I always panic 6 games into the season.
HOWEVER ... in case you do ...
2023 ... over 100 000 000 in cap space
AND ...
a first round draft pick.
If we don't use that cash and draft pick to stock up on long snappers we are doomed. 8)
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Jman, wish I could get on board with you on your optimism train but it ain't happening. This club has been messed up for decades now. And apparently they're planning on being messed up going forward as well. Even with a high top 5 pick....where they're heading...they'll blow it. There's only been a very few times where they haven't-Urlacher being one of those times but that was such a frigging gimme even a deaf dumb and blind squirrel could find that nut. Roquan is another....so far. But there are way too many failures in the draft to even begin to list them here, so the hope is gone and so is the optimism.....now it's not just do something right, it's show you have a friggin heartbeat and are still alive.....
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We could easily be 4-2 right now instead of 2-4. I personally am not ready to give up on season just yet.
We have lots of room for improvement. This is year one of new coach, new OC, new GM. Next year to me will be the real measuring stick. I fully expect us to make playoffs next year.
I would be happy if we can get 7 wins this year and show steady improvement as season progresses.
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Definitely a roller-coaster ride (mostly down atm). Still so hard to take having an offense stuck in 1930s (and not much better in the modern era where offense is actively encouraged). You can't be THAT bad at something unless you are either very, Very, VERY incompetent or are trying to be......
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Hard watching the teams that suck playing well now channel surfing on Sunday ticket.
I’m a very optimistic Bears fan but that last game just gutted me.
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I would be happy if we can get 7 wins this year and show steady improvement as season progresses.
I love your optimism. I just dont see it happening. Dallas pointed things out above pretty good.
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Watching two great NFL teams in the Chiefs and Bills and it really shows how far the Bears are away from being a good team....
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And the NFL can stop with the preaching on their equipment. 'Choose love' on the backs of their helmet, or some other saying. I don't watch sports to be preached at, so I don't appreciate it. Even though I agree with the sentiment, they can stop anytime....
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Wait a minute ... final score at Minny ...
Final score at Soldiers against Wash ...
Do teams play up and down according to the level of talent they face ?
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/espn-two-hypothetical-trade-proposals-163201297.html
I read this and this doesnt surprise me. Cheaper is always better. Helps the funding of Arlington Park. Sick
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Robert Quinn for a 3rd and a 4th?
He's 32. He has 1 sack and only 7 tackles in 5 games. If he left off like he did last year with a sack every game or maybe a sack every 2 games he might be trade-able. But he has a recent history of one good year followed by an off year. This is his off year.
Right now we might get a 2023 8th rounder for him.
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Ha ha, no such thing as an 8th round pick.
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One of the best all time bang for the buck picks- Richard Dent, 8th round. But yeah a bag of chips and some ho-hos for Quinn would be all you'd get.....
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Ha ha, no such thing as an 8th round pick.
Exactly.
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Thing is, the Bears might actually do that i(and then wonder why the draft is suddenly over. "What ? Where's everyone going ?".... :D
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Elijah Moore wants out of NY.
Hope we're trying to get something done there...he's a useful piece!
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D.J. Moore > Elijah Moore >Toney
There are options if Poles wants to pull the trigger...
Never mind (https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/10/21/carolina-panthers-unlikely-to-trade-dj-moore-after-christian-mccaffrey-deal-report) re: D.J.
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LAKE FOREST, Ill., — The Chicago Bears got a big win on Monday Night Football at New England in Week 7 but it came at a cost. As Chicago returns to the practice field here on Wednesday to prepare for Dallas, they will do so without Lucas Patrick.
The 2022 free-agent signee made his first start at center in Week 7 but lasted just a few series before leaving the game with a toe injury. That injury will now sideline Patrick for at least a few weeks as head coach Matt Eberflus revealed that he will likely go on injured reserve Wednesday.
"Lucas Patrick will likely go on IR later today. We're still determining the extent of that injury," Eberflus said on Wednesday afternoon. "We'll figure that out as we go. We will elevate offensive lineman Dieter. Dieter will go up today to the 53-man roster."
With Patrick out, the Bears will elevate Dieter Eiselen from the practice squad for some depth on the interior line. Sam Mustipher will be the starting center, a role he held from weeks 1-6 before Patrick took over.
Bryon Pringle on his way back
In addition to the news of Patrick, Eberflus also revealed that the Bears will open the practice window for wide receiver Byron Pringle to return. The wide receiver has been sidelined for a few weeks after suffering a calf injury in the Week 3 win over Houston. With the window open, the Bears now have 21 days to activate Pringle to the active roster which likely won't be this week.
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Oh no, not sioeve Sam, to start. That surely labels Sunday's game as a loss,
if there was any doubt before. I bet they are cheering that news in Dallas.
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Quinn to the Eagles for a 2023 4th rounder.
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Better than an "8th" I suppose, but essentially outside an all out collapse a Philly 4th is closer to a 5th. I would like to know cap ramifications for next year after the dead $ is gone...
Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo (https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1585361486494720000)
The #Bears will be picking up most of the remaining salary for Robert Quinn, sources say. So this trade will cost the #Eagles draft capital but not a lot of money.
3:03 PM · Oct 26, 2022
Carmen Vitali
@CarmieV (https://twitter.com/CarmieV/status/1585363845861625857)
A post 6/1 trade of Quinn carries a dead cap hit of $4,337,500 in 2022 and $8,475,000 in 2023 but saves the Bears $12.8mil.
3:12 PM · Oct 26, 2022
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So basically a 5th, better than they were saying we would get. Plus he has not been contributing much. Gipson and Robinson need more playing time. Now if we could just trade that dud Mohammed....
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The veteran appeared in all seven games for the Bears this season, recording six tackles, one sack, two tackles for loss, and 3 QB hits. Not a lot on the stat sheet for sure.
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BREAKING SPORTS
The Bears are trading edge rusher Robert Quinn to the Eagles, one year after he set a franchise record with 18 1⁄2 sacks.
The Bears will get a fourth-round pick in return, per ESPN.
Linebacker Roquan Smith grew emotional Wednesday when asked about it.
“Sucks,” Smith said. “I have a great deal of respect for that guy. Crazy.”
Smith put his orange T-shirt over his head, said he needed a minute and eventually ended his press conference at Halas Hall.
In Dallas they are cheering
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Brad Spielberger, Esq.
@PFF_Brad (https://twitter.com/PFF_Brad/status/1585387715134357505)
Pre-trade Quinn cost rest of 2022: $7.11M
Post-trade: $6.488M
Bears save $622K on 2022 cap
2023: Quinn has $14M in compensation, $18.2M cap hit
But, $8.475M in total dead cap over 2023-24
So Bears save $622K + $9.762M total 2022-2033
So about $10.4M saved by Bears in total; [Cap space for 2023 goes from $115M to $125M]
4:47 PM · Oct 26, 2022
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Why would they be cheering in Dallas?
It seems to be the equivalent of hearing that Byron Pringle will be unavailable this weekend...
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Eagles think they are Super Bowl bound and at 6-0 who can blame them. They need more pass rush than they're getting from their ends. Quinn should do well with with Fletcher Cox applying pressure up the middle.
Good trade for both teams.
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Gotta think if Montgomery does not get traded before deadline, he gets resigned. With 130+ million in cap space next year Poles will have a hard time spending it all. I just do not see the new regime not trading Monty and not resigning him. You make the decision right now, either get something for him or hold and plan on resigning.
Anyone not liking what Poles and co. are doing here in Chicago? I am absolutely over the moon. Making tough decisions and absolutely crushed the draft IMO. This team is going to be fun to watch in the next couple of years. I still expect this year to be up and down. Most likely down starting this weekend. Continuous improvement is what I am looking for.
Robert Quinn gave us one extremely good year. Unfortunately it was a year later then we needed. He has been non factor this year. I am glad Gipson and Robinson are going to get more playing time.
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I like the trade, but it’s a kick in the nuts to the players.
Roquan Smith first heard it from the podium and tested up.
Just after this signature win management trades a leader. I’ll be surprised if they don’t tank Sunday.
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Gotta think if Montgomery does not get traded before deadline, he gets resigned. With 130+ million in cap space next year Poles will have a hard time spending it all. I just do not see the new regime not trading Monty and not resigning him. You make the decision right now, either get something for him or hold and plan on resigning.
Anyone not liking what Poles and co. are doing here in Chicago? I am absolutely over the moon. Making tough decisions and absolutely crushed the draft IMO. This team is going to be fun to watch in the next couple of years. I still expect this year to be up and down. Most likely down starting this weekend. Continuous improvement is what I am looking for.
Robert Quinn gave us one extremely good year. Unfortunately it was a year later then we needed. He has been non factor this year. I am glad Gipson and Robinson are going to get more playing time.
I am sort of middle of the road. Could Montgomery get re-upped? Maybe. I think it depends on his asking price. Why? Because this is a passing league and RBs seem to be had later in the draft and Monty isnt a speed
demon.
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Poles should've dealt him when he dealt Mack. His value would never be higher after the season started. Understand the dump of salary though- they have tons of cap space next season, let's hope he doesn't go and blow it with underwhelming signings or crazy picks. That will be his 1st real draft (with his scouting system etc fully in place) and will be very telling on how good/bad he really is.....
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Great article on Fields, Gordon, Brisker, and Jenkins…so much to like!
https://theathletic.com/3731114/2022/10/26/justin-fields-chicago-bears-teven-jenkins/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983
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With Quinn gone ... how much cap space in 2023?
What do we have in terms of draft picks ?
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Wow.. One win and everyone is upbeat.. Until the last game, the Bears couldn't get out of their own way... Too early to tell how the new regime will do. I'm hopeful, as I am every year. After all, I've been a Cubs fan since the 60's...
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The Dallas games feels like a Charlie Brown/Lucy game upcoming. If they are to break that trend, it needs to start Sunday.
Rewatching the game (I saw the Maningcast live) there appears some "business decisions" by some of the Patriots defenders that were surprising. For example on the 1st TD run, you could see a db (13 ?) see Fields plowing into the endzone and he goes "not me !" and dodges out of the way. Now it would still have been a touchdown, but he could have hit Fields pretty hard if he wanted to and until the refs start calling hits to Justin (another quibble about the game) it will continue happening. There were a couple of others on the some of the other runs as well (what we would call "loafs").
Aikman said something interesting on the broadcast to the effect of "this kind of win can change the trajectory of a team." Was this game a perfect storm (Halas saying no not tonite) or a sea change for the Bears ? We shall see.....
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Based on the talent differential, we will have to play a perfect game in all 3 phases to have any chance. And that includes perfect coaching as well. Lots of turn overs, efficient offense, nice special teams. Not used to that, but one can hope. Then again a loss helps my draft position narrative, so all good.
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The Bears definitely have talent issues but they've almost been in every game. It's not like they are getting bludgeoned every week. That tells me that the coaches are doing their job.
If #31 isn't starting in place of #33 we probably beat the Vikings. Velus' unforced fumbles in 2 games could have changed the outcome.
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if Alanis Morisette-Smith or whatever wasn't out there to fuckup twice against his old teammates, the Bears should have beaten those purple paper tigers. Still bitter about that one...
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That penalty call back on Fields long TD run was a back breaker.
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LAKE FOREST, Ill., — The Chicago Bears will see a shuffle on the offensive line for the second-straight game but this time it's due to injury. The Bears line will be without Lucas Patrick who was placed on injured reserve Thursday and now they will be without right tackle Larry Borom.
The Bears ruled Borom out for Sunday's game after he couldn't pass concussion protocol. With the injury report out, the Bears made it official as Borom didn't practice all week long for the Bears. Including Cody Whitehair, the Bears will be without three starters this week including two being on injured reserve.
"Yeah, you really have Borom and you've got Lucas and you've got Cody. You've got three guys that were starting for us at one point," Eberflus said. "Guys gotta go in there and step up and do the job, just like Scho did last week, just like Sam did last week, too. It's gonna be much of the same. It's gonna be guys that have to ... that's a tight group. That's a really tight group. They're close to each other. They have really good coaches. And we're gonna go in there and get it done."
In addition to Borom being out, the Bears also activated offensive lineman Alex Leatherwood from the Non-Football Illness list. Chicago previously opened the 21-day window to activate Leatherwood and have now officially added the former first-round pick to the active roster.
"We are going to activate 72, Leatherwood, to the active roster," Eberflus said. "That will be done here shortly."
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Whoopie
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I couldnt figure out where to put this so I chose this thread.
Today I was watching college football. I had my eye tuned to Big 10 football. First I watched Ohio State/Penn State, which was good.
Then I wanted to watch the battle of Michigan supremacy, Michigan/Michigan State. For awhile there was this big heavy guy angrilly patrolling the side lines for Michigan State. His face seemed to be familiar. But I couldnt place him. I thought he was a DC or OC. Then they anounced it was Mel Tucker. I said OH NO, not that guy. Then I knew why the face was kind of familiar. Yes the former bad Bears defensive coordinator that was a mess. I said how can he be a head coach? He is horrible. I was happy his team got beaten.
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Mel Tucker.. LOL!!!
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Roquan traded to the Ravens. Details pend.
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A 2nd and a 5th, c’mon!!!
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A 2nd and a 5th, c’mon!!!
Much more than I thought they'd get.
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Possibly, but a second rounder is a downgrade in talent.
I know contracts are a consideration and maybe Eberflus defense doesn’t value the off the ball linebackers.
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Not truly surprised. The tank is going full on for a top 5 draft pick. Here's hoping they don't blow it and draft a bunch of Kevin Whites and Shea Mclellins....
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Chicago Bear fire sale. who's next ? #32 ?
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Not worth watching this messed up lost team this year....
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Agreed since they are going all in on dumping all players from the previous regime. And it looks like I was right about Roquan just off on the timing.
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Chicago Bear fire sale. who's next ? #32 ?
I think its over for now. I think the time has expired
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ravens-make-a-big-move-trade-for-bears-lb-roquan-smith-193345921.html
Thats a lot of production Baltimore is getting. Too bad Poles doesnt value that.
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Article says Roquan has 83 tackles this year. How is Eberflus going to find another 83 tackles out of remaining members of his defense?
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He’s not.
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It was on halftime on ESPN, they said the Bears also got a player in the deal. The Bears also got a linebacker I never heard of.
"A source told ESPN's Adam Schefter that the Ravens are sending the Bears a 2023 second-round pick, a 2023 fifth-round pick and linebacker A.J. Klein to acquire Smith, the NFL's leading tackler."
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Trading away what talent they had. Smith was a strong building block to build on-not anymore. They'll be very hard pressed to find that capital in the draft. Removing talent to only have to return that talent is no way to build a team.....it's just costing more to get back to where they should be....this team is so screwed....
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We were already top 5 in salary cap for next year what is he planning on doing with all of this cash?
He doesn't appear to be the type to want to pay big contracts. So is he going to go with all draft picks and sign a bunch of second tier talent to fill in.
I guess we will just have to wait and see. He has traded off all of our older defensive talent and it shows.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bears-trade-deadline-rumor-tracker/ar-AA13Bepv?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3afa682c9c8e44e5826581d8b312bb9e
The Bears have picks in the 1st, 2nd, 2nd (via BAL), 3rd, 4th, 4th (via PHI), 5th, 5th (via BAL), and 7th, for nine total selections.
For now.
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Poles is definitely betting on himself to patch the holes (some that he's inflicted himself) on the team with younger talent. This could work out well... or completely fail. If nothing else it will be entertaining, and in the end, that's what watching sports is supposed to be about......
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I saw several reports that while Roquan is a tackling machine, he doesn’t have the impact plays that justify the contract he wants, especially in this defense.
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I USED to be a huge Roquan fan but right now say good riddance. From his wanting $20+ mil/yr, his hold out during training camp, his very lack luster play this year, his whiffing on tackles, his crying during a press conference. I agree with what Poles did, take the draft capital, and hope you can find a suitable replacement. He didnt seem to buy in, and kind of had an attitude problem, that went back to him trying to negotiate his own contract. A malcontent in the locker room is one thing a rebuilding team doesnt need.
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I love Roquan, but you can’t give a Will LB $20M+ a year when we have huge needs at other high $ positions like OT and Edge and WR…
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I just dont think you can replace a player like Roquan with what you got from the Ravens. And I dont believe Poles is a genius or a miracle worker.
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You can’t. But you also can’t give a weak side LB $20M+ when you have huge needs at other expensive positions that are way more important…
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Nah. Roquan was a stud. He made plays that not many others could make. Kind of like Lance Briggs. No he wasn't a big sack guy but how many off the ball linebackers are?
He's only 25 and probably had 4 to 5 more years of quality play. However, if he over-priced himself - what do you? Tag him?
So next year you maybe spend a 3rd rounder to replace him and use the 2nd rounder for a player at an impact position.
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The Bears don't know what they've got until its gone. The LBs aren't on the team that will be here when they are making their run. Ditto most (thankfully not all) of the Dline. If they start screwing with the secondary as well then it could be a LONG time until the defense even becomes average again. And if the offense can get over the top, then it will be watchable. But if not........
I'm hopeful they are doing the right things, but I'm not optimistic considering the track record of the McCasket Bears.......
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-trade-deadline-bears-players-ryan-poles-could-deal-david-montgomery-eddie-jackson/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=6
So the trade deadline was not last night, which I thought. So there is a chance more could be traded.
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Traded a second for Chase Claypool.
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Packer land pissed.
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Heating it was Baltimore’s 2nd, so we kept the better pick…
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A day after trading away Roquan Smith to the Baltimore Ravens, general manager Ryan Poles is adding to his offense. Per multiple reports, the Bears have acquired Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Chase Claypool for a 2023 second-round pick. The pick going back to Pittsburgh is the second-round pick that the Bears acquired from the Baltimore Ravens in the Smith deal.
The former 2020 second-round pick will have a new home in his third season and will join former Notre Dame teammates Cole Kmet and Sam Mustipher. The 24-year-old Claypool has 32 receptions for 311 yards and a touchdown this season.
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Score reports it’s the Bears second round pick.
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Yeah, now reports saying that it is the Bears own pick…
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Had to outbid Packers.
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So why did Pitt trade Claypool? What's the contract situation?
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He’s emotional, maybe asking for a trade after seeing Picket.
I checked with Steelers fans and they have mixed reactions. Inconsistency overly emotional but maybe more mature this year and had two great second half’s last 2 games.
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Meh. Traded a emotional LB for a emotional WR with mediocre stats and that for a 2nd round pick?!??
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There are conflicting reports which second rounder was traded.
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I think a top 10 pick in round 2 is pretty steep. Especially, for a guy that the Steelers wanted to unload because he wasn't happy being the #2 guy to a rookie.
But as suggested Bears may have been competing with other teams (read Packers) and had to offer their better #2.
On another note - the Bears get to face newly acquired Bradley Chub this weekend - he's a Dolphin. Maybe this is good news depending on your perspective of this season.
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-trade-deadline-bears-reportedly-acquire-wr-chase-claypool-from-steelers-173953650.html
"ESPN's Adam Schefter reported that the Bears sent a second-round pick to the Steelers in exchange for Claypool. NFL Network's Tom Pelissero further added that the pick will be for the 2023 NFL draft. While it was reported that the Bears actually sent the Steelers the second-round pick they got from the Baltimore Ravens in the recent Roquan Smith trade, NFL Network's Ian Rapoport tweeted that the Bears are sending their own 2023 draft pick."
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Chicago is now Notre Dame West: Claypool, Mustipher, Equanimous St. Brown and Cole Kmet. All about the same age.
Are there more?
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Some comments today from NFL shows.
Claypool is 5th in the league in tight window throws.
If they move Mooney to the slot Fields can see both him and Claypool in a short time window.
Mooney would be a matchup nightmare in the slot.
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Well Chase has got to be all that since the Bears appear to be staring giving 40 burgers every week :D
Not surprised. Here's hoping (as stated before not optimistic because of the McCasket factor).....
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I like the Claypool move as it is a move to get Justin Fields some more WR help which he needs. Problem with drafting WR is they rarely are impact players in year one...just look at Packers. The FA pool of WR's this coming offseason is weak. So this move was needed badly.
I only wish we could have gotten DJ Moore also. I think getting Fields some WR's should be top priority. Draft OL and DL, those are spots that can start immediately and make an impact.
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So the Bears going to put up 60 each week? Now that the D has been centerpunched they'll need to. Get lit up each week like an old pinball machine. When the excoach sitting at home on the couch starts barking, you know its ugly.
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Its already been ugly. Just hope the younger guys show something this year to provide hope for the future. This isn't a playoff team and if it is, its one and done.
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dallasbear,
Is Trysten Hill worth a look?
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It isnt a playoff team and in my honest opinion its years away from that if ever.
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You should probably find another team, then…
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You should probably find another team, then…
So what you seem to be saying is if you aspire to be a playoff team you should root for another team other than the Bears. I disagree with that philosophy. That attitude is particularly Cubbish
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That’s what you got from that?
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You should probably find another team, then…
Dave, that's wishful thinking. Get it?
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dallasbear,
Is Trysten Hill worth a look?
He hasn't show much in 4 years as a Cowboy. Practice squad at best.
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It isnt a playoff team and in my honest opinion its years away from that if ever.
Bears are not a playoff team this year. But who would of thought the Giants and the Jets would be this year? Or that the Raiders and Bucs might not be?
A lot of unknowns going into next year to make such a prediction. It sounds like your just butt-hurt over this season - really, what did you expect?
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I didnt expect more than what we have. Its just more stupid Bear management on display.
Although the Claypool move appears to be a smart move.
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/the-morning-after-the-bears-trade-for-wr-chase-claypool/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=2
I like what they say
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTof_EnIkVs
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We have all the cap space money in the NFL. ;D
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Hey look, another loss ::). Call me when this pathetic team actually has a winning season for once.....think it'll be awhile before I get that call.....hey, at least they have a ton of money.... :-\
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The key Sporty is do they know how to spend it?
Chase Claypool for a second rounder ...
win ... lose ... or draw with him just getting here ?
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Well I expected the Bears D to not be good but to be not Mel-Tucker-esque dog-**** bad. Sheesh ! And of course the special teams turns out to do something not-so-special. It seems the Bears can't have multiple nice things at once.....
Here's hoping Fields can stay healthy (and un-dinged) until the defense can find itself (hopefully by the end of the season) and the Bears just MIGHT be respectable next season. Its not sustainable long-term for Fields to be game's leading rusher, but it works (for now).
Nice to see the Bears have a truly dynamic guy at QB (compare wth the QBs the Titans played with last night or the Colts yesterday - we've seen that picture in Chicago for FAR too long).......
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Assuming Fields hopefully stays healthy, this will be a fun season the rest of the way to see this kid develop. Yeah the losses suck, the defense blows, and the playoff chances are zero. But it will be a lot easier to build the trenches on both sides and retool the defense next year when you know you don't have to draft another QB in the 1st round and you got $125 million in cap space to play with. The arrow is pointing up and and the utter implosion in GB is just icing on the cake.
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Snagging Claypool away from Green Bay was one of our better middle finger moves in years. ;D
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The Bears are running a large risk. The sensible thing to do is to build a top offensive line and then add a quarterback as the last piece. That way, they have protection for their most vulnerable piece. Bringing in the quarterback first creates a situation where they have to pray that they are lucky enough not to have their QB killed while still in his learning phase.
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Watching the Ravens last night, they run the heck out of Lamar and he looks fine. From Steve Young to Rodgers, many mobile QBs start much more mobile early in their careers and then arrive at their sweetspot where they still have the wheels, but are much more comfortable in the passing game. I could make the argument, that Fields is getting their quickly, just missing that receiving core that makes those key catches.
What I also noticed is since the Commander game, Fields isn't getting blown up on runs like he was against the Giants and Commanders. He is learning quickly. I can't believe that it is actually happening right before my eyes!
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Fields running yesterday seems to take fewer hits than when he stands in the pocket. Now that has their attention, D coordinators are going to attempt to keep him in the pocket. The next step of growth is going to have to come faster now.....
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The Bears are running a large risk. The sensible thing to do is to build a top offensive line and then add a quarterback as the last piece. That way, they have protection for their most vulnerable piece. Bringing in the quarterback first creates a situation where they have to pray that they are lucky enough not to have their QB killed while still in his learning phase.
It can't always work that way. If a franchise QB becomes available you have to strike regardless of the quality of the offensive line. But once you have that guy and the Bears might have him, then you can focus on the O-line. But the Bears' problems now is that they have maybe a mediocre line but the other side of the ball needs the more attention.
The good news is the Bears have the cap space where they can upgrade the O-line. But which positions? Is center OK if Patrick replaces Mustipher? Is Whitehair retained (I like him). Is Borom and Jones the answer at tackles or can we get by with them another year or do we try to significantly ugprade one or both?
As for Fields, you guys hit the nail on the head. You can see him avoid contact in the middle of the field by sliding and he never takes on a tackler if the sideline is within reach.
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Was talking to fan I know in Florida (he works construction so the analogies got in that direction :D) and we got to talking about the game (he's a Phins fan) and it fleshed out some ideas that were bouncing around in my head.
The Bears feel like they have a plan. A real plan (not throw darts at a dartboard like its been since Vanisi was GM). They are a port-o-potty right now but the foundations are being laid down for the penthouse that they want to erect. They have a few pieces, they just need more and better materials to work with. That will be on Poles in the offseason.....
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It can't always work that way. If a franchise QB becomes available you have to strike regardless of the quality of the offensive line. But once you have that guy and the Bears might have him, then you can focus on the O-line. But the Bears' problems now is that they have maybe a mediocre line but the other side of the ball needs the more attention.
The good news is the Bears have the cap space where they can upgrade the O-line. But which positions? Is center OK if Patrick replaces Mustipher? Is Whitehair retained (I like him). Is Borom and Jones the answer at tackles or can we get by with them another year or do we try to significantly ugprade one or both?
As for Fields, you guys hit the nail on the head. You can see him avoid contact in the middle of the field by sliding and he never takes on a tackler if the sideline is within reach.
The priority has to be protection for Fields.
They have the rest of the season to evaluate what they have. Watching around the league there is a severe drought of OL. FA competition is going to be a problem. If they decide they need a franchise LT this is the year to draft him.
I think defense has to take a back seat to building around Fields
Still with all the cap space they should be able to significantly improve the D, maybe not with stars.
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The priority has to be protection for Fields.
They have the rest of the season to evaluate what they have. Watching around the league there is a severe drought of OL. FA competition is going to be a problem. If they decide they need a franchise LT this is the year to draft him.
I think defense has to take a back seat to building around Fields
Still with all the cap space they should be able to significantly improve the D, maybe not with stars.
I cringe when I read that this is the year that we need to draft the franchise LT (assuming with our first pick).
I don't know that LT is the #1 priority. I have to see more of Braxton Jones. But even if they feel he can't improve to be a good LT it doesn't mean they just better draft that franchise LT in round 1. Let me remind you of the past supposed franchise LTs drafted since Jimbo Covert: Gabe Carimi, Chris Williams, Stan Thomas, Marc Columbo.
Poles needs to take BPA with all ties going to tackle, DT, DE and possibly WR positions. Again too early - the season is half over and we don't know who's coming out.
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Poles didn’t draft any of those tackles.
If you don’t protect your quarterback he’s going to have a very short career.
I’m surprised Field’s is still playing with the hits he’s taken.
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So, for you Big 10 fans…who is better? Paris Johnson or Peter Skorwoski?
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I cringe when I read that this is the year that we need to draft the franchise LT (assuming with our first pick).
I don't know that LT is the #1 priority. I have to see more of Braxton Jones. But even if they feel he can't improve to be a good LT it doesn't mean they just better draft that franchise LT in round 1. Let me remind you of the past supposed franchise LTs drafted since Jimbo Covert: Gabe Carimi, Chris Williams, Stan Thomas, Marc Columbo.
Poles needs to take BPA with all ties going to tackle, DT, DE and possibly WR positions. Again too early - the season is half over and we don't know who's coming out.
The Bears have done a terrible job of drafting for the last 20 years. If they hadn't drafted the above left tackles, they probably would have drafted losers in other positions instead.
But the fact remains that when you get the great QB, you better not let him get killed in his own backfield. There are so few top QBs that come along that you can't afford to waste one to injury. The time to put protection in place is BEFORE you bring in the QB. Instead of bringing in tackles in the last two rounds, they should have been taking them in the first two rounds. Then, when you bring in your QB, he might last long enough to develop.
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DaveP true but Poles got stuck last year when he drafted in the second round the promising OL players were off the board. (I haven't checked to see if there were any available that have been good this year) He didn't want to reach too far so went BPA.
He has to get it right this year. It shouldn't be hard to improve on Mustipher. Braxton Jones is kind of an enigma to me. He's done well for himself coming out of a small school and getting this opportunity. You can see he's got the athletic ability. However I still see him getting bull rushed and near sacks (saved by Fields scrambling) too often. I see PFF has him in the top 5 and top 8 of rookie performances the last couple of weeks. He still gets help from tight ends often. If he only improves marginally I wouldn't want to be Poles making the decision on him being the future or drafting his replacement. Same for Borum.
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The Bears have done a terrible job of drafting for the last 20 years. If they hadn't drafted the above left tackles, they probably would have drafted losers in other positions instead.
But the fact remains that when you get the great QB, you better not let him get killed in his own backfield. There are so few top QBs that come along that you can't afford to waste one to injury. The time to put protection in place is BEFORE you bring in the QB. Instead of bringing in tackles in the last two rounds, they should have been taking them in the first two rounds. Then, when you bring in your QB, he might last long enough to develop.
Got it. The Cincinnati Bengals should not have drafted Joe Burrow and instead gone for the best offensive guard or tackle. Bears should have not traded up for Fields and maybe snagged first round tackles like Rashawn Slater, Alex Leatherwood or Christian Darrisaw. They'd have done a fine job protecting our QB Andy Dalton.
Pace was fighting to keep his job - he needed a big impact pick. He may have got it but he isn't around any longer to get the credit.
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And Getsy is smarter than Nagy. He is giving his lineman help with 1 or 2 extra blockers. This will keep Fields from getting killed as a passer will probably force him to scramble more since it will be harder to find an open receiver. As we said earlier Fields will just have to be smart about not taking big hits when he takes off.
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I would argue Fields has taken bigger hits in the pocket then he has running the ball. He has been really smart about getting down or getting out of bounds.
The few times he has taken big hits they either were penalties or should have been.
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Got it. The Cincinnati Bengals should not have drafted Joe Burrow and instead gone for the best offensive guard or tackle. Bears should have not traded up for Fields and maybe snagged first round tackles like Rashawn Slater, Alex Leatherwood or Christian Darrisaw. They'd have done a fine job protecting our QB Andy Dalton.
Pace was fighting to keep his job - he needed a big impact pick. He may have got it but he isn't around any longer to get the credit.
No. You don't got it. I did not say the Bears should not have traded up to get Fields. I said they should have gotten their line solidified BEFORE they traded up to get Fields. Since they didn't do that at the proper time, they now run an extremely large risk that Fields will be injured and ineffective by the time they bring in protection for him.
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Injuries can happen to QBs with a good line as well as a bad line. In fact, they can happen to just about any NFL player anytime. But I see your point that all those sacks are not conducive to keeping Fields healthy. As i've said Getsy has finally figured it out - something that Nagy did not - that you may have to keep an extra blocker or two to protect Fields. The risk is that he scrambles more opening himself to more injury.
And Bears didn't know they were going to get Fields until draft day. It's not like they were planning years before to build an O-line in the event that in 2021 that a franchise Qb would be available.
Recall before they drafted Fields they had Trubisky who they thought was the guy. And the Bears have had so many needs in prior drafts and not a whole lot of draft choices given the trade up for Mitch and the trade for Mack.
2021 - drafted Fields - the next 2 picks went to O-line: Jenkins and Borom
2020 - No first rounder - addressed TE and CB holes with Kmet and Jaylon Johnson - good picks to address huge holes
2019 - No first or second rounder - drafted Montgomery - great pick in the 3rd round
Right now I'd submit that our d-line is in worse shape than our O-line. At least we have some youth with potential on the O-line. Replace Mustipher and this line gets upgraded to mediocre. D-line is journeyman and mid-round draft city. Linebacking is worse.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2022/11/8/23448563/bears-coaching-staff-has-mastered-the-art-of-the-steal?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=110922%20Sports&utm_content=110922%20Sports+CID_47bfde81cbc39a745f205f5f428ad9ec&utm_source=campaign%20monitor&utm_term=LAURENCE%20W%20HOLMES
I agree
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-admits-they-screwed-the-bears/ar-AA13Wf3n?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=44e13be1685343f38274139c7f555f40
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This week feels like it could be a Charlie Brown/Lucy game with seemingly everyone jumping on the Fields bandwagon.
If the Lions have any sense (which can be questionable) they would play zone all day and force the Bears WR to get open and Fields to make the throws, force runs and expect to rally and tackle. Not sure what the Bears defense is going to do though, and the special teams may have a say (again) in the final outcome.
Or not. Maybe the corner has really turned for (the offensive side of) the franchise. Further growth please ! Irregardless of the outome.......
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I said they should have gotten their line solidified BEFORE they traded up to get Fields.
Sounds good in theory but almost impossible since most teams desperate enough to move up to grab a QB or bad enough to pick one outright are in that position because of bad lines. SF has a good line but unfortunately Lance is out. Maybe Indy has a decent line with Nelson et al. and are bad enough this season to follow your plan, but that is a very rare case...
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-admits-they-screwed-the-bears/ar-AA13Wf3n?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=44e13be1685343f38274139c7f555f40
So whats that admission going to do for our standings? Nada. Not a dang thing. A loss is still a loss and not likely going to change.
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This week feels like it could be a Charlie Brown/Lucy game with seemingly everyone jumping on the Fields bandwagon.
If the Lions have any sense (which can be questionable) they would play zone all day and force the Bears WR to get open and Fields to make the throws, force runs and expect to rally and tackle. Not sure what the Bears defense is going to do though, and the special teams may have a say (again) in the final outcome.
Or not. Maybe the corner has really turned for (the offensive side of) the franchise. Further growth please ! Irregardless of the outome.......
Fields past problems passing the ball are with teams that play tight man as he appeared reluctant to throw into tight windows. Zone will open those windows and make for easier passes for Fields but will reduce his running lanes because all eyes will be facing the QB.
Schemes are important but what is more important is the talent behind them. Detroit may be the only defense worse than the Bears so it may not matter what they do.
Could be a track meet Sunday as unstoppable force meets movable object on both sides.
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If the Lions have any sense (which can be questionable)
They havent had any in what over 50 years? I think this game is winable. I am not sure Detoilet can stop the run. I think they have to prove it first. I'd tire them out running Montgomery.
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Injuries can happen to QBs with a good line as well as a bad line. In fact, they can happen to just about any NFL player anytime. But I see your point that all those sacks are not conducive to keeping Fields healthy.
It is true that injuries can happen to anyone. But common sense tells us that if a quarterback gets hit ten times per game, he is ten times more likely to get injured than if he is hit one time per game. It just makes sense to protect your most valuable asset in an environment where an asset can go from great to zero in two seconds. I have never said that the OLine has to be perfect, but the number of sacks that Fields has been subjected to is incredible. They should have let him sit behind a scrub backup QB for the first 2 years whild they developed him and the OLine during that time.
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Fields has so far shown that to blitz him is not ideal if you cannot get to him. So that's one thing checked off. Now he has to beat zone and man coverages and make them pay. I think the Lions go zone (with maybe a robber coverage at times) just because it will cause fields to have to recognize and hit the guys with the ball and not have the guy jumping the route steal the ball (it happened last year as I recall).
Even if he does hit the right receiver, you can expect a few ham fisted drops/tips. If Lions go man, they will have to spy him to keep him from running, which the dolphins did (although not well). Then it will be up to our WRs/TEs to beat that coverage (not something we've seen a lot of- seems a lot of times when they get open is by scheme and not talent) if he can't make the spy guy miss like he did last week.
Should be an interesting "tilt" either way.....
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It is true that injuries can happen to anyone. But common sense tells us that if a quarterback gets hit ten times per game, he is ten times more likely to get injured than if he is hit one time per game. It just makes sense to protect your most valuable asset in an environment where an asset can go from great to zero in two seconds. I have never said that the OLine has to be perfect, but the number of sacks that Fields has been subjected to is incredible. They should have let him sit behind a scrub backup QB for the first 2 years whild they developed him and the OLine during that time.
Fields was sacked twice Sunday and one was running out of bounds behind the LOS. As I stated before Getsy is keeping guys in to help the O-line to prevent Fields from getting sacked or at least he did last Sunday. We'll see what he does here on out when Fields faces more quality playoff defenses: Jets, Packers, Bills and Eagles.
And no team sits a franchise QB two years waiting for an O-line to be built. The most teams will do will let them sit a quarter or half season until the starter screws up or gets injured. There's less job security these days for GMs and head coaches. You better play the star unless your like the 49ers last year and already a playoff team with a solid QB.
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Well let's hope there are improvements made to the line this offseason. I think we can all agree on that..
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Both lines…
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The fuuckin BEARRSSE traded away every swingin diick I knew on defense.
Now I have to start all over again. :) :)
What surprise will HALAS HALL inflect on moi next ?
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Good sit down watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL63fjV745k
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I just hope he stays in one piece...
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I just hope he stays in one piece...
No shiit Chi , I like his running style but at the same time my balls turn to raisins when he does. :o
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And they are STILL counting!!!
It does not take a week to count the ballots. Unless of course you have to produce more ballots.
Duck,
What the fuuck are you talking about on this site ?
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Sorry I deleted it and posted it in the correct spot.
24-10. Bears are rolling!
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Sorry I deleted it and posted it in the correct spot.
24-10. Bears are rolling!
That's all it's about !
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I hate being right sometimes (especially when its about games like this one).
Defense- putrid. Not fun.
Special teams- seem worth a fatal flub every week now.
Offense- The Fields running experience is exciting. Him throwing that pick 6 int is not. 147 yards forward and one pass back......
Can't say they aren't entertaining though. It is kind of fun to see some of the Loins fans out crowing about this one. Good job. So this is like being the tallest midget in the room....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsU75c2Z9tE
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It really doesn't matter to me if DAA BEARRSSE don't win another game this season.
Not when you are holding a royal flush next season.
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Not quite a royal flush.
The Bears draft position is good not great. Since the Bears traded their top 10 2nd round pick they are left with the Ravens late pick in that round. Round 4 they get a couple but the Eagles pick is a comp pick at the end of R4. But the Bears first rounder is looking better every week. R3 will just be a few picks behind the Ravens R2 pick.
As for free agency - yeah a huge amount of $. But recall Poles rented a lot of players in 2022. So he's got a lot of replacements that will be need to be paid to fill those spots. To me the big question is offensive tackle. Does Braxton Jones got potential to be the guy? And what about Borom - it appears Reiff may have taken his job and Reiff is 32/33.
Defensive line still looks to be the big need pick, but Poles could also go CB, WR, or OT in addition to DE/DT early rounds.
Also got to pay Johnson and Mooney in '24 so don't spend it all.
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Not been too high on any of Poles' FA signings (or even the dudes he traded for). This next draft will determine whether we sink to new lows or actually might have a winner sometime this next decade or so.....
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Looking more and more like trading Roquan away was a huge mistake....they won't get a guy as good as him in this next draft....
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Looking more and more like trading Roquan away was a huge mistake....they won't get a guy as good as him in this next draft....
I don't think they are going to try. They'll see how Sanborn grades and maybe draft a 4th or 5th rounder for competition, but the 2023 draft should address the Bears' many holes at other key positions.
It will be interesting to see if the Ravens sign him, tag him or let him go and pick up a 3rd round comp pick in '24.
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If the Ravens let Roquan explore FA, and he doesn't sign that home run contract, it will be interesting to see what he does sign for. And if it was more or less than what the Bears had on the table.
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How I see the Bears Dealing with Free Agency and the Draft (https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2022/11/15/23460093/chicago-bears-2023-free-agency-nfl-draft-ryan-poles-need-bpa-scout-lucas-patrick-braxton-jones)
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I agree with Gabriel.
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So do I. And I believe that if the 9ers dont re-up McGlinchey the Bears will pounce on him. they seem fond of golden domers.
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https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2022/11/15/23461078/nfl-chicago-bears-khalil-herbert-placed-on-injured-reserve-david-montgomery-luke-getsy
This is interesting to see what steps the Bears do to counter this problem.
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The Cards just dumped a guy, better make that call
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We apparently also just signed Taco Charlton off the Saints practice squad...
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I would like to point out on the up and coming soon to be CHICAGO BEARS DRAFT 2023 forum that what is needed in the first round is Justin Jefferson
for Justin Fields.
What the hell do you mean he's already on another team ?
Well then godammmit find his equivalent. What are we paying scouts for ?
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I know you want to play, but time to sit:
Bears quarterback Justin Fields clarified the injury to his left shoulder, saying he has “a separated shoulder with partially torn ligaments, basically an AC joint.”
Fields practiced on a limited basis Wednesday, and said afterward that if the game was today, he would not be able to play. He called the pain “pretty high” and said he feels it “pretty much every throw” on his follow through.
“We’ll see how it feels in four days,” Fields said, via Jason Leiser of the Chicago Sun-Times.
Fields acknowledged he would need a painkiller on game day if he’s able to go but is uncertain what he would wear to protect his injured non-throwing shoulder.
“If I can play, and I’m not furthering the risk of injury and I can do what I need to do to protect myself, that’ll be good enough for me to play,” Fields said. “Of course I’m not going to sacrifice playing in this game for me risking that I might not be able to play later . . . and have to sit out two or three more weeks after that. Just listening to my body and making sure I’m not forcing anything.”
Fields has thrown 13 touchdowns and eight interceptions this season.
Trevor Siemian is Fields’ backup.
The Jets benched their starting quarterback, Zach Wilson, so Mike White will start against the Bears on Sunday.
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Also read Lucas Patrick is done for the year. He played what 12 snaps at C? I would say FRAAGEELLAYYYY
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Those Ryan Pace... err I mean Ryan Poles signed sure have been good, haven't they ? :(
If his drafting/FA next year is not spot on its time to FIRE GEORGE !
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Yeah that Getsy Eberflus pair isn’t working out is it
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He's got to prove it next season. I assume he's also made scouting changes and that will have an effect on who he picks this season as well. So many holes to fill (some self inflicted but probably necessary in the long run) and not enough to plug them all in the draft. Actually worried about his FA acquisitions more than his drafting so far.......
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Also read Lucas Patrick is done for the year. He played what 12 snaps at C? I would say FRAAGEELLAYYYY
You'll shoot your eye out kid!
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..and then he did and now he's out....you warned him....
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Thank goodness Nathan Peterman has been brought up from the practice squad.
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Another sacrifice behind that offensive line......
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Thank goodness Nathan Peterman has been brought up from the practice squad.
Propably next week against the Pack.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32RrR91ARXM
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This team would be beat by most large school college teams as it is trash talent-wise. Not sure if you can develop anything or anybody when you are this bad. And without Fields (or a defense) they have NOTHING to hang their hat on and make it watchable. The boat-race to a better draft position has picked up speed and is hurtling toward its destination (they will not catch the Texans though as they have a huge lead).
They've got a lot of work to do to get back to any kind of decent standard. I'm just not sure they can do so if using the past history of this franchise in the modern era. Need talent. Badly. Pace Poles FA track record is not too good so far. Hopefully he can nail that and the draft next season.
If he does not, its the dark days of Abe Gibron/Jack Pardee again without the blessing of a Walter Payton to brighten the day......
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32RrR91ARXM
I dont know how many tackles he had yesterday but he deserves to be a starter on our team. We dont seem to have anybody else that can tackle
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Sanborn isn't especially fast but he give it his all. Bears defense has so many holes they can get by with Sanborn next year.
Bears need an entire new front 4 next year. I thought Gipson and #91 might provide some hope for the future but they are strictly backups. Blackson is probably the worst d-lineman on the team. The other 3 might benefit from a stud next to them but they are basically backups too.
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I agree, but would phrase it a different way.
The Bears have no defensive lineman that requires the offensie to double team him. Yesterday, the five OLs of the Jets were able to handle the 5 pass rushers without the tight end or even the running back to be used as blockers. The value of a stud rusher is that he requires two blockers to handle him. And two studs require four blockers, which means that the other three rushers are free to stunt or overpower their single blocker. If we had one stud DE and one stud DT, Gipson or Robinson would be perfectly acceptable, and probably better than average, pass rushers. I haven't seen enough to know if they could handle the running game.
It would be great to have 4 or 5 stud rushers, but that isn't the world we live in.
But when we go out to get the studs for the team, we had better bear in mind that if Fields goes down, the Bears go down.
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since Sanborn was made a starter he leads the NFL in solo tackles.
What more does he have to do?
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I agree, but would phrase it a different way.
The Bears have no defensive lineman that requires the offensie to double team him. Yesterday, the five OLs of the Jets were able to handle the 5 pass rushers without the tight end or even the running back to be used as blockers. The value of a stud rusher is that he requires two blockers to handle him. And two studs require four blockers, which means that the other three rushers are free to stunt or overpower their single blocker. If we had one stud DE and one stud DT, Gipson or Robinson would be perfectly acceptable, and probably better than average, pass rushers. I haven't seen enough to know if they could handle the running game.
It would be great to have 4 or 5 stud rushers, but that isn't the world we live in.
But when we go out to get the studs for the team, we had better bear in mind that if Fields goes down, the Bears go down.
I agree about the double teams. But most very good edge rushers rarely consistently require 2 blockers. The problem with #99 and #91 is they can't even beat OTs 1:1. They'd look better with increased pressure from the inside which might flushout the QB or a better DE on the other side, but if they can't beat a tackle 1:1 or at least provide occasional pressure there's a problem. Each has 1 or 2 sacks for the year. Brisker has about as many sacks as those 2 combined. And Muhammed is worse than those 2.
I don't care whether the Bears draft d-lineman or sign free agents but that is to me the #1 need. I am not saying that our offensive line doesn't need help but yesterday Montgomery had a solid day running the ball. And Siemen was sacked only twice - and one was because Borom fell asleep.
Bears need at least 2 new d-lineman starters next year.
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since Sanborn was made a starter he leads the NFL in solo tackles.
What more does he have to do?
The 3 top Jets running backs ran for 150 yards in 21 carries. Not saying that's Sanborn's fault. He's a tough inside linebacker with limited range. But he's got good instincts and as I've been harping on there are numerous other positions that need to be upgraded.
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Can we just state this is the least talented Bears team we've had in decades? It's not good....
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"Bears wide receiver Darnell Mooney will go on injured reserve and miss the rest of the season after Jets safety Jordan Whitehead fell into his left ankle Sunday.
“He’s likely to have surgery and he’ll be done for the season,” coach Matt Eberflus said. “It’s unfortunate.”
That’s a big blow to an offense with few established playmakers, and it’s especially unfortunate timing for Mooney with the possibility of a contract extension ahead of him in the offseason. Next season marks the end of his rookie deal."
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Re: the DLine, we need to draft a stud and sign a stud, and that's just for starters...
It's easily the biggest need on the team.
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"Bears wide receiver Darnell Mooney will go on injured reserve and miss the rest of the season after Jets safety Jordan Whitehead fell into his left ankle Sunday.
“He’s likely to have surgery and he’ll be done for the season,” coach Matt Eberflus said. “It’s unfortunate.”
That’s a big blow to an offense with few established playmakers, and it’s especially unfortunate timing for Mooney with the possibility of a contract extension ahead of him in the offseason. Next season marks the end of his rookie deal."
I hope Mooney has enough time to re-hab as I don't have the details of how extensive the injury was.
Bears get to evaluate Pringle, Jones, Harry and Claypool with the remaining 5 games.
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$125,000,000.00 in cap space. A high first round draft pick that can be traded for mucho draft picks.
We'll take the insults and slights this year ... but godddammmit are you going to pay for it next year. >:(
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I am not one to "tank" however with Field's shoulder I think the Bears need to sit him for few more weeks.
What's the downside? We lose a couple more games? Who cares, now it should all be about developing young talent and getting a higher draft pick.
Let's start promoting some practice squad players and see what some of these younger guys can do.
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Its "lets throw some **** at the wall and see what happens" time for the Bears. Sit Fields until at least after the bye (more if there is any indication he needs it) and bring up folks to see if they have any potential keepers. The current "starters" should not be favored to start for the rest of the season. Everyone should be under scrutiny.....
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Can we start with whoever is the backup to Mustifer?
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I am not one to "tank" however with Field's shoulder I think the Bears need to sit him for few more weeks.
What's the downside? We lose a couple more games? Who cares, now it should all be about developing young talent and getting a higher draft pick.
Let's start promoting some practice squad players and see what some of these younger guys can do.
Winning any more games is futile. Why risk ruining Fields career by playing him in worthless games. Besides I just dont envision any remaining teams as beatable anyways
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Fields has the running down pretty good. He needs reps to better understand the pocket. We need Fields to develop into a passer first, runner second. I agree that while he is hurt he should sit. Otherwise, he should play to work on his passing game..
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Fields might be able to recover from a separated shoulder but torn ligaments? I would love to see him play against a bunch of quality defenses but its not worth risking next year if he could further damage the shoulder.
But you can't treat the last 5 games as the preseason. Its not fair to the NFL but there are ways to get some of the PS guys into games. The recent Bear injuries are proof of that.
Bears now sitting at #2 in the draft.
Does Detroit want to draft their future QB or are they content with Goff who will only be 29 next year? Maybe Seattle wants to replace Geno Smith. Is Carolina content with Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold? Indy has ancient Matt Ryan?
Houston
Chicago
L.A. Rams (DET pick)
Denver (SEA pick)
Carolina
New Orleans (PHI pick)
Arizona
Indianapolis
There's a lot of picks between Bears #1 and the Ravens 2nd rounder. Or is Will Anderson the 'generational' talent at DE that can't be passed up?
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https://sports.yahoo.com/bears-hibernate-now-because-contenders-195206494.html
Sounds logical
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Fields might be able to recover from a separated shoulder but torn ligaments? I would love to see him play against a bunch of quality defenses but its not worth risking next year if he could further damage the shoulder.
But you can't treat the last 5 games as the preseason. Its not fair to the NFL but there are ways to get some of the PS guys into games. The recent Bear injuries are proof of that.
Bears now sitting at #2 in the draft.
Does Detroit want to draft their future QB or are they content with Goff who will only be 29 next year? Maybe Seattle wants to replace Geno Smith. Is Carolina content with Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold? Indy has ancient Matt Ryan?
Houston
Chicago
L.A. Rams (DET pick)
Denver (SEA pick)
Carolina
New Orleans (PHI pick)
Arizona
Indianapolis
There's a lot of picks between Bears #1 and the Ravens 2nd rounder. Or is Will Anderson the 'generational' talent at DE that can't be passed up?
If that ends up being the draft order, I would trade down as far as Carolina and no lower. And I'd be fine with Carter or Anderson when we pick.
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I think I read somewhere that because of bye weeks we are worse off than we will end up in that order. It said something like we will pick between 2 and six.
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You could be right. If we tie with other 3 win teams then we probably lose out with a tougher strength of schedule. Got to root for the Rams and the Broncos the rest of the way out...and against the Ravens.
Oh, but that schedule was supposed to be so easy this year! Success in the NFL isn't determined by your opponent's ability.
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The big question if we end up at #5 is…
What if the top 4 are Young, Stroud, Anderson, Carter?
Who do we take at 5? Or do we look to trade down again, if there are good offers?
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And Stroud may not even be in the draft. He has to declare by sometime in January and he isnt likely to do that until all NCAA post season is over.
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You cant count your chickens till they are hatched.
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You cant count your chickens till they are hatched.
You can't talk in the past about subjects that belong in 2023.
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With the luck of this franchise it will get the pick that is just out beyond where the QBs where needy teams would want to trade up.......
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You can't talk in the past about subjects that belong in 2023.
So you are saying YOU KNOW FOR FACT that Stroud is definitely in the 2023 draft? He is a Sophomore Jackie. Put the booze down dude
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So you are saying YOU KNOW FOR FACT that Stroud is definitely in the 2023 draft? He is a Sophomore Jackie. Put the booze down dude
So you are saying that Stroud is a Sophomore and we should hold off having a draft board until 2025?
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NO Jackie. Stop imitating Oddo. How many times does someone have to explain the same thing to you?
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NO Jackie. Stop imitating Oddo. How many times does someone have to explain the same thing to you?
When did you first realize that you loved me and we were on the same page ?
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/why-justin-fields-game-vs-packers-was-one-his-best-bears-qb
Dallas will love this. Its what he has been crying for
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/heres-where-bears-stand-2023-nfl-draft-after-week-13
Number 3 would be Ok with me if we are going Defense with the pick.
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Good article - Fields is showing some improvement. He was impatient on that last pick, but that first pick was partially on St. Brown but Fields should have seen that the Alexander was not respecting St. Brown - just like he didn't on the longer pass earlier in the game.
Rams/Broncos game - hope for a tie.
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You know what scares me?
Lions
Jets
Dolphins
Teams that are up and coming because of their F.A. signings and their draft picks.
You know what bores me ?
Rams
Packers
Broncos
Buccaneers
The wad has been blown on big money payouts.
You know what's interesting ?
The rest of the NFL.
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I wonder if the Bucs would trade us Mike Evans this off-season?
Brady doesn’t even look his way anymore.
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I noticed that last night too. Interesting idea. And I cant answer why he isnt catching more balls. And I dont have knowledge of what his contract situation is. If he has a big contract I dont see the Bears going after him.
My guess is they are going to go el cheapo due to Arlington Heights.
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I noticed that last night too. Interesting idea. And I cant answer why he isnt catching more balls. And I dont have knowledge of what his contract situation is. If he has a big contract I dont see the Bears going after him.
My guess is they are going to go el cheapo due to Arlington Heights.
Why would you say that? The world can see the Bears' salary cap situation - you are saying they will spend well below it?
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Disappointing that we couldn't run the ball better against a team that Philly ran with no problem. And also disappointing that we couldn't contain Jones any better that they did..
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Braxton Jones has allowed 4 pressures and no sacks the last 4 games with less help than he was getting previously.
If he continues to improve no need for a LT.
I have a question. Can a team trade players as well as draft picks to move up in the draft? Denver has no picks with the Russell Wilson trade but would love a do over at QB. Maybe Tennessee also. They both have some good young players.
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We can have everything we want if we play our cards right.
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In ONE offseason, J? You cannot possibly be serious. ....I hope....I don't think they can begin to right this in two offseasons! There are way too many needs.....
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Why would you say that? The world can see the Bears' salary cap situation - you are saying they will spend well below it?
I just believe they arent going after bigtime FAs. I think they are going to build through the draft and reasonable priced FAs.
I think Poles has a mgt mandate to build through the draft.
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I just believe they arent going after bigtime FAs. I think they are going to build through the draft and reasonable priced FAs.
I think Poles has a mgt mandate to build through the draft.
You can't JUST build through the draft and sign 1 year JAGs. Bears want to be competitive and will have to sign a few big FAs. I know FAs are a crapshoot but so is the draft.
Look at last year's early edge picks in the draft. Travon Walker - a couple of sacks. He was drafted #1 overall. Now maybe he develops later in his career. The #2 guy Hutchinson from Detroit is having a better year. But the #6 edge guy the Giants Thibodeaux hasn't done much either...a couple sacks.
Bears will be smart about the cap and leave enough money to re-sign Kmet, Jaylon and Mooney, but you can't expect a 2023 #1, a #2 (late) and a #3 to significantly turn this team around.
Bears have absolutely nothing on the D-line. Maybe you get by with Jones starting at DT next to a stud, but their DEs are rotation guys...at best. Those guys are tough to find.
O-line - you'll need at least one bonafide starter...maybe 2. Depends on what they do with Cody and Patrick. RT is a hole. Got to hope Braxton Jones has a future - he still gets help quite a bit.
At WR, need another guy. Maybe not a #1 guy but a 3rd guy to go with Mooney and Claypool. Harry and Jones are 4th and 5th guys.
I kind of like this #39 at CB - he's got some wheels. I'd play him over Kindle Vildor - we know what he can do. But CB is also a need as Gordon can't keep up with speedier guys on the outside.
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You can't JUST build through the draft and sign 1 year JAGs. Bears want to be competitive and will have to sign a few big FAs. I know FAs are a crapshoot but so is the draft.
Look at last year's early edge picks in the draft. Travon Walker - a couple of sacks. He was drafted #1 overall. Now maybe he develops later in his career. The #2 guy Hutchinson from Detroit is having a better year. But the #6 edge guy the Giants Thibodeaux hasn't done much either...a couple sacks.
Bears will be smart about the cap and leave enough money to re-sign Kmet, Jaylon and Mooney, but you can't expect a 2023 #1, a #2 (late) and a #3 to significantly turn this team around.
Bears have absolutely nothing on the D-line. Maybe you get by with Jones starting at DT next to a stud, but their DEs are rotation guys...at best. Those guys are tough to find.
O-line - you'll need at least one bonafide starter...maybe 2. Depends on what they do with Cody and Patrick. RT is a hole. Got to hope Braxton Jones has a future - he still gets help quite a bit.
At WR, need another guy. Maybe not a #1 guy but a 3rd guy to go with Mooney and Claypool. Harry and Jones are 4th and 5th guys.
I kind of like this #39 at CB - he's got some wheels. I'd play him over Kindle Vildor - we know what he can do. But CB is also a need as Gordon can't keep up with speedier guys on the outside.
Look, I dont want to argue or fight. I just dont see things the same as you. I am not saying I am right just voicing my opinion.
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I'm pretty locked in to Carter at defensive tackle. Offer Payne the world in free agency, and we have our defensive line pretty well set up.
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I'm pretty locked in to Carter at defensive tackle. Offer Payne the world in free agency, and we have our defensive line pretty well set up.
Almost. Still need a solid edge guy to go with those 2. Gibson has underwhelmed this year. Robinson started out fast but hasn't done much. He is young and inexperienced playing DE. #55...he gone.
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In ONE offseason, J? You cannot possibly be serious. ....I hope....I don't think they can begin to right this in two offseasons! There are way too many needs.....
Except for three things Sporty ...
NY Jets
NY Giants
Miami
Deeeeeeeeeeetroit
That's four things. Considered worse jokes then us 1 year ago.
I didn't make it about one season ... you did. I have no answer for what you posted.
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Braxton Jones has allowed 4 pressures and no sacks the last 4 games with less help than he was getting previously.
If he continues to improve no need for a LT.
I have a question. Can a team trade players as well as draft picks to move up in the draft? Denver has no picks with the Russell Wilson trade but would love a do over at QB. Maybe Tennessee also. They both have some good young players.
That's a good question.
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Yes, you can trade an player and a pick.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/2022/12/11/23504008/chase-claypool-deal-comes-with-a-catch-for-bears?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=121222%20Sports&utm_content=121222%20Sports+CID_cd876cb578869e0a54123659f90bbdd6&utm_source=campaign%20monitor&utm_term=Establishing%20a%20connection%20between%20Claypool%20and%20Justin%20Fields%20in%20the%20final%20four%20games%20will%20go%20a%20long%20way%20to%20making%20the%20trade%20pay%20off
They definitely need to get Claypool in gear.
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"Getsy’s offense isn’t built for even a big and fast receiver like Claypool to make an immediate impact, the Bears say."
Then Getsy needs to find a way to get Claypool more productive - he's got 4 more games to figure it out.
Bears need to be getting more snaps to Velus Jones too and Leatherwood.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/gallery/chicago-bears-2023-free-agency-potential-targets/?itm_source=parsely-api.
Nice list and depends on whether they become Free Agents or are re-upped, which we dont know.
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Payne is the prize.
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I hope we don't overpay for anyone. That never seems to work out for us, or for a lot of teams. Mack was decent, but wasn't worth near what we gave for him. I'm more concerned about draft picks. This team is notorious for flubbing draft picks... Until I see results, I have little faith. This team has been in a lot of games, a play here and there and we could easily being talking about a different situation. We have to get a pass rush, no doubt... That and address the O line.. Those would be my two top priorities...
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I know of the team's history with the draft, but each GM has no connection to previous regimes. The jury is still out on Poles 2022 draft. Brisker looks solid, Gordon is OK - certainly not playing like a top second round pick, Jones could be the steal of the draft (Braxton). The other Jones (Velus) can return kicks (not punts) and is pretty good on end arounds, but right now I'd say is a disappointment.
I know Pace had his issues with all his drafts but his last one with Fields, Jenkins, Borom, and Herbert is looking pretty good right now. It takes at least a year or two to evaluate any draft.
I don't think there are enough draft picks to fill all the holes in this team. Free agency will be key. I don't know that the Bears will sign a few big dollar guys but they better not sign a bunch of 1 year JAGs either. Probably something in between. They also have to re-sign quite a few Bears to their second deals too.
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I'm more concerned about draft picks. This team is notorious for flubbing draft picks... Until I see results, I have little faith.
Thats a load. Boy do we agree.
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There will be some players coming off their first contract on cap space strapped teams available.
The roster has so many mediocre journeymen who can be improved upon pretty easily. The Bears have lost a lot of games based on inability to even play average at several positions.
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I hope the Bears don't sign anyone much over 26/27. I guess maybe an offensive lineman could be signed at 28.
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Pace was awful. His propensity to deal high draft picks away was frustrating... The Trubisky deal was a big WTF?
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One pick that looked promising by Pace was Roquan Smith. I'm still surprised this regime decided he didn't fit on this team..
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One pick that looked promising by Pace was Roquan Smith. I'm still surprised this regime decided he didn't fit on this team..
Yeah trading highly productive first round picks for second round picks is not good policy.
If Poles was just offended by Smith’s handling of the situation he needs a thicker skin.
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Poles definitely has shown a willingness to create holes/problems when others exist that need fixing. But then again, patching a drywall instead of replacing the whole thing because the foundation is poor is not the way to go about rebuilding.
His eye for FA talent is questionable at the moment (Claypool needs to start producing or the 2nd round pick is wasted). Muhammid and that LB they acquired (I think because they both already knew the Eberflus defensive "system" whatever that is) are just JAGs. He did seem to hit on Sanborn, but he needs a LOT more hits like that than the others.....
With the cap space freed up, he must feel he can acquire talent (whether he can actually identify that talent that will work is another story). Time will tell.....
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I don't think it is entirely fair to evaluate Poles based on last year in FA. He was clearly trying to clear cap space, and knew he wouldn't be fielding a winner in the first year. His first order of business was to work at the offensive line, and the Bills matched the offer to Bates. Patrick has been a poor signing because he can't stay healthy , but those flags weren't there during his time at GB. He went after his 3 technique the first day of FA, and the guy failed the physical.
This offseason, the expectations should be much higher. He has a star in the making at QB, a solid running game with Herbert and fill in the blank, and a roster with a lot of holes. But we do have that quarterback...
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If Will Anderson jr. is there we move with the first.
After that Wide Receiver and Offensive Line City.
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I dont know what the draft order is until our season is over and draft positions are known. Maybe we will win a game and drop out of Anderson contention.
Next thing you know you will be petitioning the NFL to have the draft moved up so you get your draft next week.
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I don't think it is entirely fair to evaluate Poles based on last year in FA. He was clearly trying to clear cap space, and knew he wouldn't be fielding a winner in the first year. His first order of business was to work at the offensive line, and the Bills matched the offer to Bates. Patrick has been a poor signing because he can't stay healthy , but those flags weren't there during his time at GB. He went after his 3 technique the first day of FA, and the guy failed the physical.
This offseason, the expectations should be much higher. He has a star in the making at QB, a solid running game with Herbert and fill in the blank, and a roster with a lot of holes. But we do have that quarterback...
Poles clearing cap space is an understatement.
No shiit don't laugh at this but we are really in contention to buy a super bowl like the Rams did.
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Seven losses this year by one score.
That tells me they just need a few more play’s made.
They don’t need to replace the whole roster to win.
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True, but a good number of players are just rentals. I could see 5 new starters on defense. 3 or 4 on offense.
And then there are backups that will need to be replaced. Some could be re-signed I guess.
Next year could be a radical roster change just like this year was and most of that will come from free agency. Bears will have 3 picks in the first 3 rounds just like they did in 2022. Trade downs could enhance that number to get more top 100 players.
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A few key positions would make a big impact. A truly dominant 3 technique changes this defense. Is Gipson and Robinson so bad that they cannot get any pressure on QB as DE's? This year for sure but what if you had a guy in the middle commanding double teams? Probably changes how our DE's perform.
Same can be said at WR. One elite guy would change the landscape of the offense and make all the others look better than they have looked.
OLine is a bit different in my opinion, there you need 5 solid guys doing their job. I do not think you need superstars, but you do need 5 solid guys. This year we had 3 and they were playing different positions on the line all year due to injuries.
Hopefully they can resign Montgomery, with him our running backs are set.
Wish list stuff would be another weapon at TE, above average KR/PR, weak side linebacker.
I think I would stick with Santos thru this small slump. Last kicker that was good and slumped got ran out of town was Gould and look he has played like another 7 years at high level.
Poles does not need to make new holes in this roster, he has plenty of them already.
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I agree. A few impact players would make a huge difference on this team. We need upgrades on both lines.
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A few key positions would make a big impact. A truly dominant 3 technique changes this defense. Is Gipson and Robinson so bad that they cannot get any pressure on QB as DE's? This year for sure but what if you had a guy in the middle commanding double teams? Probably changes how our DE's perform.
Same can be said at WR. One elite guy would change the landscape of the offense and make all the others look better than they have looked.
OLine is a bit different in my opinion, there you need 5 solid guys doing their job. I do not think you need superstars, but you do need 5 solid guys. This year we had 3 and they were playing different positions on the line all year due to injuries.
Hopefully they can resign Montgomery, with him our running backs are set.
Wish list stuff would be another weapon at TE, above average KR/PR, weak side linebacker.
I think I would stick with Santos thru this small slump. Last kicker that was good and slumped got ran out of town was Gould and look he has played like another 7 years at high level.
Poles does not need to make new holes in this roster, he has plenty of them already.
Our DEs are horrid. Their pressure ratings are dreadful and none of them has more than 2 sacks. Teams don't have to keep a TE or a HB in to pass block which puts more pressure on the Bears secondary.
They simply can't beat their man one-on-one. If you put a good pass rushing DT they might pickup a few garbage sacks here and there but they all are right now nothing more than depth. I really hoped Gipson would build on his season last year - he hasn't. Robinson looked great in the PS and flashed early but he does nothing. And #55 is the worst of the bunch and should be cut ASAP.
I don't know that the Bears can find a true top WR next year. They may have to do with a bunch of #2s and #3s. That might be OK if you can shore up the O-line.
I've been a Whitehair supporter but I just don't see how he is retained. Schoefield seems better at RG and Reiff is a solid RT. I wouldn't want either in the starting lineup but they could be retained as depth.
If you just focused on starting spots on both lines it looks like the Bears need: center, LG, RT, DT, DE and DE (maybe bring 2 from: Jones, Watts and Pennel - Blackson is gone)
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There’s good news and bad news on the injury front coming out of Halas Hall on Tuesday. The bad news is linebacker Jack Sanborn is out for the season with ankle injury suffered during Sunday’s 25-20 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, according to head coach Matt Eberflus as he met with reporters on Tuesday.
The good news is Eberflus said that guard Teven Jenkins is already back at the team facility and is “looking good” after suffering a scary neck injury during Sunday’s game. Jenkins spent time at a local hospital for further evaluation but was out by Monday.
Sanborn was one of the bright spots for the Bears defense this season. An undrafted rookie out of Wisconsin, he stepped up following the Roquan Smith trade and became one of the team’s best defenders. Sanborn finishes the season with 64 total tackles, five for a loss, two sacks, and a fumble recovery.
Jenkins, meanwhile, has been arguably the best offensive lineman on the Bears this season after switching from tackle to guard. He’s considered day-to-day and could even practice this week, according to Eberflus.
More information regarding injuries will come out later in the day when the first official report of the week is released. The Bears have a truncated schedule due to their Saturday game against the Buffalo Bills.
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Bears are just a cursed team. They do stupid things and suffer injuries that a lot of teams just don't have. Not only don't they have luck at QB but when they do, injuries occur, like the one that knocked Cutler out of the NFC Championship at the wrong time. Packers? Hardly ever are their QBs out. Favre and Rodgers have been remarkably resilient. Bears draft bad, can't get the right coach, have been ridiculously cursed at QB and injuries keep knocking out key players.....
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Its time to discuss the McCaskey Curse.....
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The Bears are getting one of their key offensive players back to play the Bills this weekend. But they also won’t have at least one of their key receivers and are unlikely to have a second.
Via multiple reporters, head coach Matt Eberflus said during his Thursday press conference that the club is activating running back Khalil Herbert. He hasn’t played since Week 10 with a hip injury.
Herbert has rushed for 643 yards with four touchdowns this season. He’s also caught six passes for 62 yards with a touchdown.
But receiver Equanimeous St. Brown (concussion) is out after he didn’t practice all week. Fellow receiver Chase Claypool (knee) is doubtful. He was limited on Tuesday’s estimate but didn’t practice on Wednesday or Thursday.
Offensive lineman Teven Jenkins (neck) and offensive lineman Cody Whitehair (knee) are also doubtful.
Defensive back Jaylon Johnson (finger/ribs) is questionable. Defensive end Kindle Vildor (ankle) and tight end Trevon Wesco (calf) are out.
The Bears also announced they’ve promoted defensive back Harrison Hand to the active roster from the practice squad.
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I remember Trevon Coley was very active in the presesdon - lets play him. Blackson does nothing.
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Reserve corner Jaylon Jones an UDFA has filled in for Vildor. Opposing quarterbacks have a mediocre 92 passing average against him with no TDS.
Time to let him start.
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He was pretty bad against the Vikes, but that was a while ago. He's the starter with Gordon at nickel. Vildor better get healthy quick.
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Packers just re-signed their guard Jenkins. I'm sure the Commanders will do the same with their DT.
If free agency is weak the Bears will suffer next year. Unless Poles does a bunch of trade downs in the draft and hits on all cylinders, it could be tough to fill all the holes with better quality players.
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The Bears ended the seasons of two of their cornerbacks on Friday.
Jaylon Johnson and Kindle Vildor have both been placed on injured reserve. They will miss Saturday’s game against the Bills as well as the final two games of the regular season.
Johnson was listed as questionable to face Buffalo due to finger and rib injuries. The 2020 second-round pick had 35 tackles, a forced fumble, and a fumble recovery in 11 starts this season.
Vildor has been out with an ankle injury since late November. He had 34 tackles and an interception in 11 appearances.
As expected, the Bears activated running back Khalil Herbert from injured reserve. They also signed cornerback Breon Borders to the active roster and elevated wide receiver Nsimba Webster and tight end Chase Allen from the practice squad for Saturday’s game.
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The Bears ended the seasons of two of their cornerbacks on Friday.
Jaylon Johnson and Kindle Vildor have both been placed on injured reserve. They will miss Saturday’s game against the Bills as well as the final two games of the regular season.
Johnson was listed as questionable to face Buffalo due to finger and rib injuries. The 2020 second-round pick had 35 tackles, a forced fumble, and a fumble recovery in 11 starts this season.
Vildor has been out with an ankle injury since late November. He had 34 tackles and an interception in 11 appearances.
As expected, the Bears activated running back Khalil Herbert from injured reserve. They also signed cornerback Breon Borders to the active roster and elevated wide receiver Nsimba Webster and tight end Chase Allen from the practice squad for Saturday’s game.
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Is it my imagination or is the SECONDARY the consistently most wounded position ON ALL TEAMS ?
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Considering how the secondary has played at times this season, I'm surprised they don't a burn ward set up.... But seriously, it does seem that there is a curse of some sort on the Bears.....
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Considering how the secondary has played at times this season, I'm surprised they don't a burn ward set up.... But seriously, it does seem that there is a curse of some sort on the Bears.....
Give us that fat cap space money and our draft location and a GM without his head up his ass and we will see about being cursed. ;D
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MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!
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Merry Christmas!
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Merry Christmas. So the Bears hung tight with the Eagles last week and for the first half with the Bills. That is a Christmas present in a way, if we just had better OL and DL, especially OL, we would be talking playoffs not draft pick. Just saying.
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Merry Christmas!
Texans won and they have games left against the Jaguars and the Colts. It is not out of the realm to be getting the number 1 overall. Texans win one and the Bears lose out, wala!
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Merry Xmas all !
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Merry Christmas everybody.
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Merry Christmas!
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Merry Christmas!
Texans won and they have games left against the Jaguars and the Colts. It is not out of the realm to be getting the number 1 overall. Texans win one and the Bears lose out, wala!
I think having #1 would facilitate a tradedown and still get who we want. So if that happens it could be a good thing. I am not holding my breath that it does.
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Christmas wish list for the Bears:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-christmas-wishlist-for-justin-fields-2023/?itm_source=parsely-apihttps://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-christmas-wishlist-for-justin-fields-2023/?itm_source=parsely-api
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/25/bear-necessities-chicago-in-contention-for-no-1-pick-in-2023-nfl-draft/
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I wish there was some way to get Jerry Jeudy out of Denver.
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I am not wild about this mock but it starts good:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-2023-mock-draft-seven-round-christimas-edition/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=1
I think we have to do more homerun hitting.
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Does one trade down or stay put and pick up a genuine killer going to the hall of fame?
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Does one trade down or stay put and pick up a genuine killer going to the hall of fame?
The latter.
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I think what he is saying is its quality that counts, not quantity.
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And this team needs a good infusion of both. They better pick the right guys this draft or its going to be another year of moral victories....
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Generally, two years in a row of moral victories, a team will spiral downward. Losing will eventually lead to low morale and more losing..
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That's kind of what I am afraid of. Thinking the coaching staff is as smart doing what they are doing (tanking) instead of maybe that's just how they are. We will see if it becomes a regular pattern. The McCaskey curse still reigns supreme.....
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So supposedly Braxton Jones had his best game of the year against the Bills.
Curious to see how they evaluate him this off-season.
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Geezuz ... picking #2 in every round along with the fattest salary cap in the NFL ... ;) ;D :) :o 8) :-*
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....and they'll STILL screw it up.....wait..... ::)
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So supposedly Braxton Jones had his best game of the year against the Bills.
Curious to see how they evaluate him this off-season.
He may have but he did give up a sack with a power move from #57. Overall I am more and more impressed with Jones who I have said for weeks is the Bears' best rookie.
Is it just me that thinks this but I still think that Fields holds the ball too long. I know the line sucks and so do the receivers but Pringle and Pettis are NFL vets. Maybe its Getsy, but there are not enough quick passes. Its like he's waiting for a WR to be 5 yards away from a defender before he attempts a throw.
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....and they'll STILL screw it up.....wait..... ::)
Not so fast Sporty ... Poles came off of the OFFENSIVE LINE himself.
What teams are ahead right now ?
Those with the most solid offensive lines.
We been talkin about this shiit for decades ... I think Poles is about to put it to use.
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Fields does not throw his WR's open except for on deep balls. He has the same problem Trubisky has. He waits to see them open then throws the ball.
He needs to learn to read defenses and throw to a spot.
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Cutler used to do that and got burned.
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The WR has to do their job. In years past Rodgers was the master at it and so were his WR's. Today his WR's aren't getting there and more INT's.
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Cutler used to do that and got burned.
Then Fields will never be a top passer in the NFL.
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Receivers gave to be good and in sync with their quarterback to be thrown open.
Most interceptions happen when receivers and quarterbacks aren’t on the same page as to where the receivers are supposed to be.
It takes times working together.
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Well the trade for Claypool looks like it was anything as shitty as the last Ryan pulled. Injury aside, he better have an awesome 2023 or this will be Poles' Kevin White.....
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He'll be in a contract year. He showed flashes on some deep balls but none of Bears WRs had a monster game this season.
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He’s only been targeted 22 times and most of those were bubble screens.
Need to see what happens over some time as Fields and Claypool practice together.
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Sources: Kevin Warren is strong candidate for Bears president (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35341811/sources-kevin-warren-strong-candidate-bears-president?device=featurephone)
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He’s only been targeted 22 times and most of those were bubble screens.
Need to see what happens over some time as Fields and Claypool practice together.
Yes - severely underutilized with bubble screens. Caught a few flashes of deeper balls. One from Simien against the Jets. Then 2 deep PI calls - well one was called. He is probably not going to play against Detroit and if he's got a bad knee I don't expect him to play in Soldier in January.
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He’s only been targeted 22 times and most of those were bubble screens.
Need to see what happens over some time as Fields and Claypool practice together.
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/30/bears-chase-claypool-hopes-people-havent-counted-me-out-yet/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=1
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This will likely excite Dallas:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-trade-options-at-receiver-help-justin-fields-davante-adams-chris-godwin-deandre-hopkins-jerry-jeudy/?itm_source=parsely-api
Jerry Jeudy's name has already been brought up here.
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Yeah I brought it up.
He’s 23 in his second or third year of his rookie contract.
He can take over games but hasn’t played with a decent quarterback..
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I know we have some eggs, but I hope we don't put too much in one basket. We have some holes that need filling. Personally, I've had my fill of the Ryan Pace way. Trade away all your picks, then next year sit twiddling your thumbs cause you have no high draft picks.. Then on top of that, the player you went all out for is either sitting due to injury, or he only gives it his all when he feels like it..
This offseason and next year should be real interesting. Fans have their interest up due to the excitement that Fields has brought to the game. Keep losing, that interest will wane rather rapidly...
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I'm in a wait and see mode regarding youtube and the nfl. Do they go the route of directv and gouge the fanbase? Or do they make it a bit more palatable in hope to bring in new viewers. I would be interested in an a la cart for a reduced price. Otherwise, they can shove it up their A$s...
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Yahoo rumors YouTube will charge $300.
I decide in part based on what I would spend to see the game at a sports bar, about $25 for lunch and just one beer. Times say 14 x $25=$350 for sports bar vs $300 to see at home without all the drunk goofballs and watching other games more interesting than the local lineup.
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Yahoo rumors YouTube will charge $300.
I decide in part based on what I would spend to see the game at a sports bar, about $25 for lunch and just one beer. Times say 14 x $25=$350 for sports bar vs $300 to see at home without all the drunk goofballs and watching other games more interesting than the local lineup.
One flaw in your math, you are still going to eat and drink beer at home. ;D But lack of drunk goofballs, driving on the roads with the same drunk goofballs, and having the best seat in the house is the strong argument in favor of watching at home. I also like to channel during commercials.
What I am curious about, is I am watching a TV and my wife is watching another game on another TV. Sometimes I am on our mountain property (preoperty with a camper, so not luxury) watching and she is at home. Will the subscription be limited to a router or in some other fashion. I am sure they are already considering how to limit sharing of subscriptions.
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My guess it will be limited to a number of devices (more devices, more $$$) like it is now. I like Youtube TV DVR ability, but wonder if they will be able to use that with the ticket.....
For now its Redzone and NFL+ to rewatch Bear games (as its been for about 6 years now).......
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I used to go to a Sports Bar like 20 years ago. And it was a Bears bar in Dallas too.
Then one Sunday I showed up and everybody including the bartender (who I thought was a Chicagoan) are wearing Packers jerseys. I asked what's up? He said the Packers are doing better this year and they have more fans.
I then ended up going to general Sports bars and arrive early to get a seat near a TV with the Bears game. That didn't last long - I got the satellite. I can re-wind, slo-mo, and zip thru the commercials and even the announcer chat between plays.
Looks like I need to start learning more about YouTube streaming and their DVR, which I assume is cloud based.
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Yeah that's the only real thing I miss from Directv we had the TiVo. Well, also getting programming for free for a few years because of some knowledge (wink wink *). Would love to pause redzone to go take a ****, answer the door, etc etc. If youtube offered redzone as a cheap package with the DVR I would buy it.
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HAPPY NEW YEAR !!
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Fields will not be starting this weekend.
Good decision.
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It enhances our chances of getting the #1 draft pick
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Bullcrap decision. Fields is fine. So he goes out with one of his worst performances of the season.
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Looks like they extended Brown. It must be for his blocking because he cannot catch very well. Not liking what I've seen from Poles so far and he's sliding down the scale slowly to the last Ryan's level......
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Oh wow, he dropped a couple passes this season. He's 26. He averaged 16 yards per catch and as you said he's the best blocker on the team.
Right now the Bears have only 3 WRs signed: Mooney, Claypool and Velus Jones. There's room for better receivers to keep Brown on the bench.
I'm Ok with the signing.
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Then one Sunday I showed up and everybody including the bartender (who I thought was a Chicagoan) are wearing Packers jerseys. I asked what's up? He said the Packers are doing better this year and they have more fans.
Great day for you when the universe gives you a sign.
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Laremy Tunsil has made it clear he’ll go to the highest bidder.
That’s something over $23m Trent Williams gets at 32 years old.
If the 49ers can afford Williams with all their stars the Bears can pay 28 year old Tunsil. I’ve heard some former Bears say Braxton Jones needs 2 years in the weight room. Maybe he could play right side or backup until he’s ready.
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Bears had a shot at drafting Tunsil but passed. I think most of us would have preferred we drafted him when we had the chance instead of trying to get him via FA.....
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Regarding Tunsil, pretend we did draft him and this is his second contract. I don't follow him or the Texans at all, is he in the Trent Williams stratus?
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26 year old Orlando Brown was offered and turned down just over $23 million per (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1548009179415080962?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1548009179415080962%7Ctwgr%5Eb91c1c53bfd9487a96598110136088d2bbcde2fd%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.arrowheadpride.com%2F2022%2F7%2F15%2F23220478%2Freport-chiefs-orlando-brown-contract-offer-was-essentially-less-than-was-reported) this past summer. Stud left tackles are just like elite pass rushers. They are rarely available in FA. Teams tag them, move heaven and earth to resign them, or require multiple 1sts in a trade.
As an aside, I wonder why Adam or Ian weren't able to leak Chicago's offer to Roquan. But obviously we would all rather offer the $20+ per to those premium positions over an off ball linebacker...
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Am I missing something? Isn't Tunsil signed through 2023? What is all this talk about him being the highest paid tackle?
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It has been a frustrating season to be sure. On the balance:
(-) Two of the coaches who could've been coaches for the Bears are in the playoffs and the one they did choose has 3 wins on the season. The joke that Matt Eberflus and Ryan Poles where hired because George would not have to remember new first names still applies....
(-) The talent cupboard is mostly bare at the moment. It will take an EPIC offseason of great picks and signings to just get this team to mediocre- much less relevant.
(--) This team IS the McCaskey Bears. The McCaskey curse applies...
(+) They have a ton of cap space and decent amount of picks to restock this team. They have one impact player (Fields) and some pieces to work with (and mostly young), but will it be enough ?
(+) They appear to have their franchise QB. But the question remains can he stay healthy and can this coaching staff improve the passing game ?
(0) There is a team culture now. It is to hustle and play smart. But it also is a team that finds ways to lose or not win games. Which one will prevail ?
So I think a 3:2 negative:positive is appropriate here. The near future is going to be very gray. But I guess if the team follows the opposite path of the last regime (success early, failure afterward) and has failure early and success afterward we can all be content. Unfortunately I think we are at least another frustrating season away from reaching that goal at least.....
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https://twitter.com/cemma670/status/1611938821263822848?s=61&t=BgmD2ehAN6lyR2y-z9LwAQ
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Maybe they can copy and paste Soldier Dome and all that extra nonsense onto Arlington. At least there's parking there.
https://vimeo.com/782298596
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That's really nice but as we all know, nothing but a dream.....Arlington Heights will have the room this area doesn't for tailgating, parking, whatever.
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The next day is always a little better, a little brighter whenever the Packers lose and Lovie giving Texans management the finger and giving the Bears a "win". Let's see what they can do with it....
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Very interesting read:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/chicago-bears-no-1-draft-042400803.html
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Excellent article.
I liked this line the best:
“There might be a few that squeak through, and in the world they’re going to live in, everyone makes such a big deal about having a ton of cap space — it’s not always the best thing. All you’re going to do is overpay a ton of guys.”
I don't see Poles doing that but don't be surprised if we see more 1 or 2 year contracts with the Bears only spending up to what they are required to spend after re-signing their own and any gems they find in free agency.
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Sounds likely due to Arlington Heights.
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Build the team. Don't just throw a bunch of crap together. I'd rather the Bears look cheap this offseason than overpay a few veterans that some other team decided no longer fit their scheme.
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The goal for any difference makers would be guys coming off their rookie contracts. Still young and worth over paying to a point.
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I don't think Arlington Heights project has anything to do with how the Bears manage the cap. They are making big money and their goal is to put out a good product.
The issue is you don't want to sign long term contracts for FAs that are either not that good or too old. You have to be selective.
It will be difficult for the Bears to fill all their holes in one offseason, but if they can sign/draft some playmakers on each side of the ball they can improve. It just might take a couple drafts to be a playoff contender.
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I don't think Arlington Heights project has anything to do with how the Bears manage the cap. They are making big money and their goal is to put out a good product.
The issue is you don't want to sign long term contracts for FAs that are either not that good or too old. You have to be selective.
It will be difficult for the Bears to fill all their holes in one offseason, but if they can sign/draft some playmakers on each side of the ball they can improve. It just might take a couple drafts to be a playoff contender.
If Halas Hall does this right we are a playoff contender right the fuuck now .
What the fuuck more does anybody want then other the most fuucking cap space and the number fuucking one pick in the draft ??
What the motherfuuck does it take to please you constant pessimistic motherfuuckers ?
Jeesuz fuuckin christ give it a motherfuuckin break already.
You people are starting to depress me.
Which is a shame since Jackie always has such a cheerful outlook on life.
Dal this isn't directed at you but all of the naysayers.
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Not a naysayer. But many predicted the Packers guard would just step right into our lineup - he was re-signed. Same was said for some RT who was re-signed.
Now everyone expects Deron Payne will be the Bears starting DT next year. You just don't know who gets re-signed or who becomes free.
Just because you have a wad of cap doesn't mean you just spend it on the best available FA who might just happen to be a Justin Jones or Nick Morrow JAG.
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Who is the Commanders DT that we have our eyes on? Are they going to sign him or tag him?
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Washington probably needs a quarterback.
If they resign Deron Payne Bears could demand him as part of a trade for the first pick.
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That's a huge drop from 1 to 16. That value difference is a top 5 first rounder. As you say, Payne would be part of that compensation but Bears would need more.
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There could be a huge bidding war or maybe no one values these quarterbacks enough to offer much.
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What's most interesting is none of us have ever been in this situation before.
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There could be a huge bidding war or maybe no one values these quarterbacks enough to offer much.
You're right. The teams in need of a QB that are closer to the Bears in draft order might just be willing to take the next best QB that falls to them without having to trade up. There are 3 maybe 4 that could go in the top half of the first round.
Plus some of the teams needing QB may think they are playoff ready and just need a vet QB to put them into the playoffs. They may not want to wait on a rookie QB to develop - they want to win now.
I guess the bottom line is just because you are a motivated seller doesn't mean there's a motivated buyer.
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Or you take the top rated QB to call their bluff.
Sitting at number one the Bears hold all the cards. Maybe they don't think Fields can ever be more than a running QB and trade him. Or they do believe he can develop and take the top guy on their board that isn't a QB.
Odds are they get a boat load of picks for number one but that does not mean that is how it will shake out.
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Not a naysayer. But many predicted the Packers guard would just step right into our lineup - he was re-signed. Same was said for some RT who was re-signed.
Now everyone expects Deron Payne will be the Bears starting DT next year. You just don't know who gets re-signed or who becomes free.
Just because you have a wad of cap doesn't mean you just spend it on the best available FA who might just happen to be a Justin Jones or Nick Morrow JAG.
Almost every FA worth a squat is resigned or tagged. It is rare that a "Julius Peppers" type player makes it to FA anymore.
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Yes I am skeptical that the Bears improve despite having the number ONE pick in the draft.
And NO I dont suscribe to Rick Morrissey. He is the most negative sports writer. If he had his way we wouldnt have a sports team in Chicago.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/1/8/23545490/hey-bears-won-right-to-no-1-pick-in-the-draft-now-they-should-trade-it-ryan-poles-justin-fields?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=010923%20Sports&utm_content=010923%20Sports+CID_4e468d68f6b75f63a34d1b2fdc565c65&utm_source=campaign%20monitor&utm_term=RICK%20MORRISSEY%20General%20manager%20Ryan%20Poles%20has%20so%20many%20holes%20to%20fill%20hell%20need%20all%20the%20draft%20picks%20he%20can%20get
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I didn't find anything that negative about this particular article. It reflects the Bears current situation.
Is there a story behind this - I don't really expect to see one:
But he didn’t lose, bless him, and the Bears are the beneficiary of whatever you want to call what he did. Lunacy? Maybe. Or maybe Smith knows he’s not long for his gig in Houston and left a going-away present.
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I am not mad at Lovie Smith eventhough I dont like his time here in Chicago. He did what most coaches would do. He tried to win a game. I suspect lovie knew he was a gonner before the game began.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-sign-7-players-reserve-futures-contracts-2023/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=8
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saw this and thought it would be of some interest..
The Bears' 2023 non-conference opponents have been set. Here's who they'll face next season (plus, of course, home and home with NFC North rivals, Minn, GB and Detroit)
HOME
Falcons
Panthers
Broncos
Raiders
Cardinals
AWAY
Chiefs
Chargers
Saints
Buccaneers
Commanders
Browns
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From: https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/3-reasons-why-ryan-poles-believes-bears-foundation-strong
Finally, Poles was encouraged by the toughness his team exhibited throughout the year. According to Poles, the team’s resilience earned praise throughout the league.
“I can’t tell you how many coaches from the teams that we played called the next morning, or GMs and said, you can feel your guys on tape. You can feel that the way that they play, they played the right way. Keep doing what you’re doing. You’re on the right path.”
I don't know but the in-born cynic in me has a different take on those calls. What they MEANT was the right path to getting beat and have a 3-14 record for sure. "Be You" and we will keep "beating you"....
Just food for thought :D
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/1/10/23549392/bears-fans-patience-rewarded-theyve-got-a-franchise-qb-no-1-pick-justin-fields-poles-gm-phonte-draft?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=011123sptsnewsletter&utm_content=011123sptsnewsletter+CID_267c6dd36f5c7765e505d818e951b25f&utm_source=campaign%20monitor&utm_term=Laurence%20W%20Holmes%20Justin%20Fields%20draft%20capital%20and%20a%20ton%20of%20salary-cap%20space%20%20what%20a%20trifecta
As an organization, the Bears seemingly have been on a never-ending quest for a quarterback. That pursuit has been mocked in every prime-time game the Bears have played for the last decade. As much as we all respect the legendary Sid Luckman, using him as the standard-bearer for Bears quarterbacking always felt like a backhanded compliment. Like the league was snickering at Chicago
As it stands, the Bears have more cap space than any team in the league, the most coveted draft position and a quarterback they feel good about. It’s quite the trifecta. One that allows them to set the agenda of the NFL offseason. A place where no one would’ve expected this franchise to be 12 months ago.
We can’t leave this column without singling out the contribution of former coach Lovie Smith. He did his old team a real solid by playing to win in his last act as the Texans’ coach. I know that Smith isn’t hurting for money, but he is now out of work. If he craves a challenge, he should announce his candidacy for mayor of Chicago right now. He won’t struggle to get enough signatures for his petition after Sunday. He wouldn’t even have to campaign.
The next part is fun. Expectations will be raised. Instead of hiding their heads in shame, Bears fans again can be puffy-chested. With all these assets acquired, Poles’ position is the most coveted in the league. The dark days are over.
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Here is one "potential" FA the Bears should go after if he IS a FA and not tagged.
DT Da'Ron Payne Washington Commanders. Doubrt that happens. He is too good. Trade?
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He IS too good. I would hate giving up high draft choices but this guy might be worth that late 2nd.
Now if the Bears can do a couple trade downs from #1 then they might generate a pick to send for Payne.
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Brad Spielberger, Esq. (https://twitter.com/PFF_Brad/status/1612867512852516901)
@PFF_Brad
Jaguars spent $121M in first year cash on free agents this past offseason, I believe an NFL record (Patriots the year prior were in the same ballpark)
The Bears currently have $75M on the books for 2023, and need to get to around $240M
Can also extend players of course...
11:42 AM · Jan 10, 2023
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I'm bewildered by the thought the Bears have the QB they are looking for....unless they wanted a pure running QB with few passing yards. Perhaps Chicago hasn't seen a true QB in so long they're confused as to what one does- throw the ball.....
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I'll admit, I'm intrigued by Fields. But, I've always said that you need to have a guy that can work the pocket and throw the ball. I've never really thought much of the running QB's. If Fields can get the passing game down, he'll be lethal. Otherwise, in a year we'll all be talking about the good QB that we could've had in the draft..
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I never saw Fields as a running QB coming out of OSU. With the Bears he ran basically to survive. Just like any QB give him a clean pocket once in a while and some weapons and the passing stats will improve which is what he and the Bears would prefer.
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Fields has lost confidence in the passing game. He doesn't trust his receiver or himself.
I would fire the QB coach....Getsy is next on my list along with the DC.
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During the stretch where the protection improved a little, Mooney was in the lineup and the running game was clicking Fields had a 95 passer rating. He was going through his professions and looked much improved even though they were only throwing 20 times a game.
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Fields was up and down all season. Peterman had a 93 rating against the Vikings - sacked once.
You'd like for Fields to check it down more. But those check down guys are usually helping out with pass protection which means the defense can focus on 3 receivers.
So Fields stares down the receivers waiting for them to get open which they rarely do and ends up taking off or getting sacked.
Solution: Upgrade O-line replace center and RT - keep Whitehair unless there's a cheaper, better younger FA option - look at WRs in free agency and in middle of the draft
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Hopefully Claypool can get his game together..
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I see the Bears hired Kevin Warren to take Phillips place. I see this as a business before product move. I think it's all about getting a new stadium built.
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Ding ding ding
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What exactly is the role of the president in handling the draft or free agency?
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What exactly is the role of the president in handling the draft or free agency?
He’ll give final approval on contracts.
More importantly, he hires the GM a McCaskey.
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He’ll give final approval on contracts.
More importantly, he hires the GM a McCaskey.
Thats funny
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Poles was trying to make the team at training camp with the Bears years ago. Now he's the GM.
Warren was Zorich's agent staring down Ted during contract negotiations. He is about to replace him as CEO and President of the Bears.
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RG Teven Jenkins
2023 cap hit: $2.29 million
Percentage of 2023 cap: 0.98%
TE Cole Kmet
2023 cap hit: $2.41 million
Percentage of 2023 cap: 1.03%
QB Trevor Siemian
2023 cap hit: $2.47 million
Percentage of 2023 cap: 1.05%
K Cairo Santos
2023 cap hit: $3.25 million
Percentage of 2023 cap: 1.39%
DE Al-Quadin Muhammad
2023 cap hit: $4.5 million
Percentage of 2023 cap: 1.92%
QB Justin Fields
2023 cap hit: $5.15 million
Percentage of 2023 cap: 2.19%
C Lucas Patrick
2023 cap hit: $5.38 million
Percentage of 2023 cap: 2.29%
DT Justin Jones
2023 cap hit: $7.4 million
Percentage of 2023 cap: 3.15%
LG Cody Whitehair
2023 cap hit: $14.1 million
Percentage of 2023 cap: 6.01%
S Eddie Jackson
2023 cap hit: $17.09 million
Percentage of 2023 cap: 7.29%
Who stays? Who gets cut?
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WTF? Eddie Jackson, $17 million. Without knowing the rest of the deal, hard to know if next year he or someone else is cheaper.. I can't get over these numbers..
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Jackson is so inconsistent. He's a upgrade path IMO. Whitehair takes a cut or is playing elsewhere IMO....
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Jackson was the highest rated player on the defense last year (I know...the tallest midget).
Whitehair was up and down. I initially wanted to keep him another year to retain some sort of stability on the line and permit the team to look at options at other positions in need of more help.
BUT $17 MILLION DOLLARS for a 30 year old guard?
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Look at the money some of the players throughout the league make. There's not some magical bucket of money this comes from. Directly and indirectly this money comes from the consumers. You have to ask yourself, is the product being produced worth it... Hell no! This is a big reason I quit directly contributing to the pot. I watch however I can (free), or listen to the broadcast however I can (free). Average yearly income for an American family is somewhere around $60k. Embarrassing...
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Look at the money some of the players throughout the league make. There's not some magical bucket of money this comes from. Directly and indirectly this money comes from the consumers. You have to ask yourself, is the product being produced worth it... Hell no! This is a big reason I quit directly contributing to the pot. I watch however I can (free), or listen to the broadcast however I can (free). Average yearly income for an American family is somewhere around $60k. Embarrassing...
Yeah I used to take my family to a game or two a year when we could do so for about $250.
Now it’s $600+ for the same product and not worth it for 3 hours entertainment.
I still go to occasional games when invited by lawyers and vendors I hire who all have season tickets.
I came to realize now most of the fans are the same, business and their clients, not families.
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I fly up to Chicago for one home game with my son and his friend. We go to Gibson's for dinner one night. Weekend trip. It is expensive but spending the time with someone you love doing the things that you both love to do...priceless. Now that being said my annual income is not the average person and it does stink that the average Joe cannot afford to take his family to a game.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/1/17/23559830/we-nailed-it-easy-to-see-what-bears-ceo-kevin-warren-envisions-in-arlington-heights-stadium?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=011823sptsnewsletter&utm_content=011823sptsnewsletter+CID_b28ef2b6f15abc163e4b563312f7680b&utm_source=campaign%20monitor&utm_term=Warren%20plans%20to%20begin%20official%20team%20business%20in%20April%20and%20said%20he%20expects%20to%20have%20more%20concrete%20details%20on%20the%20stadium%20plans%20by%20July
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This is a little sobering when we all get drunk on that large Bears cap figure:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/the-25-worst-moves-nfl-teams-made-in-2022/ss-AA16rIsf?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1aab1e6b51ad4a669656a46adfbfec2d
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Yeah yeah I know its 2023 and this thread sez 2022 and yer thinking can we update to a 2023 Chicago Bears thread but lets be real ...
who around here even can put forward that kind of effort around here ?
I can't.
It's already late January.
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I see somebody looks at the calendar. Brilliant.
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I see somebody looks at the calendar. Brilliant.
Somebody should that wants to see this motherfuucking team advance.
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Heading into February without a 2023 CHICAGO BEARS forum. I know it's tough and it breaks your heart to give up the past.
It has to be done however like that root canal you've been putting off.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/2/1/23581359/bears-want-running-to-be-part-of-qb-justin-fields-game-but-not-the-majority-of-it?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=020223sptsnewsletter&utm_content=020223sptsnewsletter+CID_bc4202e0ef0bdc5ee16d865edec6823d&utm_source=campaign%20monitor&utm_term=Bears%20want%20running%20to%20be%20part%20of%20QB%20Justin%20Fields%20game%20but%20not%20the%20majority%20of%20it
Well Duh!
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Its that time of the season for hot takes, bad takes, and just downright Mr Obvious takes.....
Its also the lying season for NFL front offices and their shills FWIW.....
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You must remember this is still the 2022 NFL season so it’s still the 2022 Bears season. The 2023 NFL league year begins on March 15, 2023.
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Watched most of the Senior Bowl because Getsy & Co were coaching......
Not too impressed with them. Also not too assured about the quality control of all the other coaches stepped up for the game either . Good news- Bears should not lose any coaches to other teams anytime soon and can grow with the team. Bad new is that unfortunately, they will be coaching the Bears for the foreseable future.
This is going to one year to remember (maybe for the wrong reasons) one way or the other.....
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Didn't the coaches only have 3 practices prior to the game? The important takeaway is they got insight into a lot of players that should help them on draft day.
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True. Nothing beats getting personal eyeballs on the guys you may want to draft. Was hoping to see a better show though. It seems the other team performed quite well after just 3 practices.....
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You must remember this is still the 2022 NFL season so it’s still the 2022 Bears season. The 2023 NFL league year begins on March 15, 2023.
That applies to free agency. 2022 is 2022 and 2023 is 2023. It is now 2023 any and all comments applying to Chicago Bears pertains to 2023 Bears not 2022 Bears.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/06/bears-free-agency-expected-to-be-active-pursuing-offensive-linemen-ryan-poles/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=6
Yes, I expect the Bears to pursue OLine help in FA.
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Decision will need to be made on Patrick and Whitehair. Patrick isn't too expensive and has the flexibility to start or backup at C/G - never really saw him at center.
Whitehair also has some flexibility too at C/G but his contract would have to be re-done (its around $14M) or he will be cut.
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Decision will need to be made on Patrick and Whitehair. Patrick isn't too expensive and has the flexibility to start or backup at C/G - never really saw him at center.
Whitehair also has some flexibility too at C/G but his contract would have to be re-done (its around $14M) or he will be cut.
At least in this paean to the past thread that we are posting on we are talking bears offensive line needs .
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It is not now nor will it ever be a sin to be 2023 CHICAGO BEARS FAN.
If only those of us who except the passage of time to update our brethren.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/2/15/23601567/chicago-bears-buy-arlington-park-property-suburban-stadium?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BREAKING%20BEARS%20215&utm_content=BREAKING%20BEARS%20215+CID_514438b56e4b4447bd7d8e5c203a9577&utm_source=cst%20campaign%20monitor&utm_term=Chicago%20Bears%20buy%20Arlington%20Park%20property%20for%20possible%20stadium&tpcc=BREAKING%20BEARS%20215
So its official that the Bears have bought the Arlington Park property
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/2/15/23601567/chicago-bears-buy-arlington-park-property-suburban-stadium?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BREAKING%20BEARS%20215&utm_content=BREAKING%20BEARS%20215+CID_514438b56e4b4447bd7d8e5c203a9577&utm_source=cst%20campaign%20monitor&utm_term=Chicago%20Bears%20buy%20Arlington%20Park%20property%20for%20possible%20stadium&tpcc=BREAKING%20BEARS%20215
So its official that the Bears have bought the Arlington Park property
Wither 2022 CHICAGO BEARS forum?
Let us look upon the wisdom of George Halas who stated in 1920 :
"By the grace of God those in the know will create a 2023 CHICAGO BEARS forum"
He was thinking that far ahead. And you would ignore him ?
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https://theathletic.com/4246354/2023/02/23/bobby-wagner-rams-release/
Wagner on a 1 year deal could be interesting.
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With FA approaching quickly this interested me
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-2023-offseason-free-agency-espn-mike-mcglinchey-dremont-jones/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=0
But if you arent all in on Carter it likely means you have to pick up FA help to fill holes
I DO like McGlinchey. I am not familiar with Jones.
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We just discussed Dremont Jones yesterday. He's getting a lot of press because of his 6 1/2 sacks. But he is undersized for a DT and his PFF rankings isn't that good as a 3-4 DE last season.
He would be an upgrade and would be definitely helped out playing next to Carter - but he's no Payne.
The more I look at this year's FA class the more I am underwhelmed.
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Seems so too to me, but I do like McGlinchey @ RT
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I dont remember if it was Hoge and Jahns or a discussion with someone but they said that McGlinchey doesnt fit/isnt what Poles likes/is looking for in an OL. For whatever that is worth. It might have been that guy who used to be a personnel guy for the Bears. Old age sucks.
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Greg Gabriel? There's also a FA RT from Atlanta who looks to be very similar to McGlinchey. Caleb....yeah, old age does suck...Mc Something.
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McGary, I believe…
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"Kaleb"
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I didn't know Bleacher Bums Forum had a built-in spell checker.
Apparently, McGary over-performed his 4th year after under-performing his first 3.
If you believe in the PFF grades, McGary was #4 of 81 tackles last year. McGlinchey (did I spell that correctly?) was 35th.
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Bunch of old guys talking about what's his name...
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/pff-predicts-bears-sign-three-top-50-nfl-free-agents
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If we sign Hargrave that reduces the need for Carter and opens up the draft quite a bit.
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That sounds cool. No need to draft in the first round any more.
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Poles opens his mouth.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/10-takeaways-bears-gm-ryan-165651395.html
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/01/what-chicago-bears-are-looking-for-defensive-lineman-ryan-poles-matt-eberflus-nfl-combine/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=2
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Well Jalen Carter pulled a dumbass. Thankfully before the draft.....
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He'll still be the top drafted non-QB. Often times folks (including me) will provide excuses for these immature football players. Only twenty-something, brains not full developed, no mentoring, bad household-bad upbringing, etc.
But damn, 104 in a 40 mph zone and weaving and leaving the scene of an accident where people were killed? Like I said - he'll still be drafted high.
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When you are young, seemingly have the world by the tail and a future that looks bright you tend to make mistakes.
But this mistake goes beyond youthful dumbass-ness we all have been through. It shows he does not have the judgement to surrounded himself with folks who can help him maximize his success.
He could still be a premiere HOF football player, but the odds he gets the chance to get to that level (or even gets to play considering the manslaughter charges) have just been reduced significantly.
Even if totally acquitted, it raises red flags of common sense, who you surround yourself with (guess he didn't have Chris Carter's "fall guy" to fall back on) and commitment to what you have to do to become the best and just general all-around awareness.
Maybe it "scares him straight", but more likely he does something as dumb (or maybe not even as dumb as the tolerance toward it will be less) after he's drafted. Stupid is as Stupid does.....
I can see the Bears not drafting him at all. This franchise cannot be taking flyers at players like this with such boom or bust (with the bust considerably higher because of character concerns) considering the many, Many, MANY weaknesses on the current roster.
I hope the kid get his life straight but he just greased the hill he has to climb to get to the top.....
This does shake up draft things though.....
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It looks like the character flags were warranted. So as for the draft that probably means the Cards take Anderson at 3, I wonder what our fallback pick at 4 would be?
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Unless they fall in love with Wilson and the foot checks out, then maybe another trade down with Carolina or thereabouts...
Should that drop to 4 include Buckner or next year's 1st?
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We'll see what happens by draft time. If all he gets are the 2 misdemeanor charges - he will be drafted at the top of the draft.
Even though he was racing what really gets me is he was at the scene of the accident before police/fireman arrived - 2 people died and another 2 were seriously injured.
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We’ll see if Carter is a guy who thinks rules don’t apply to him or if he’s a 22 year old who learned a lesson.
At 21 most guys don’t think about dying when they do stupid stuff. By 21 I had driven a few times when I had no business walking let alone driving. Maturity took its course and I used better judgement.
I suspect teams will be talking a lot to coaches, friends, police to evaluate his attitude.
Of course the other question is why this just came out now.
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We’ll see if Carter is a guy who thinks rules don’t apply to him or if he’s a 22 year old who learned a lesson.
At 21 most guys don’t think about dying when they do stupid stuff. By 21 I had driven a few times when I had no business walking let alone driving. Maturity took its course and I used better judgement.
I suspect teams will be talking a lot to coaches, friends, police to evaluate his attitude.
Of course the other question is why this just came out now.
Thinking about dying and thinking about the cost of insurance premiums can radically change behavior.
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We'll see what happens by draft time. If all he gets are the 2 misdemeanor charges - he will be drafted at the top of the draft.
Even though he was racing what really gets me is he was at the scene of the accident before police/fireman arrived - 2 people died and another 2 were seriously injured.
I agree. It all depends.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/3/1/23620459/nfl-scouting-combine-bears-jalen-carter-arrest-warrant-top-draft-prospect-reckless-driving-racing?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=030223sptsnewsletter&utm_content=030223sptsnewsletter+CID_0f4dfe5b414edb8215b282dda886486c&utm_source=cst%20campaign%20monitor&utm_term=Jalen%20Carters%20warrants%20send%20ripples%20through%20Bears%20draft%20plans&tpcc=030223sptsnewsletter
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The McCaskets have always been against having bad character players.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/3/1/23621099/nfl-scouting-combine-bears-will-anderson-alabama-pass-rush-ryan-poles-draft-first-pick-jalen-carter?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=030223sptsnewsletter&utm_content=030223sptsnewsletter+CID_0f4dfe5b414edb8215b282dda886486c&utm_source=cst%20campaign%20monitor&utm_term=Has%20Will%20Anderson%20become%20the%20drafts%20only%20cant-miss%20prospect&tpcc=030223sptsnewsletter
Dont know. It could work out that way. Just too early to tell right now. My personal question right now is the condition of the passenger side of Carter's vehicle. Did he force the death of those in the other car?
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ET AL
What year is it ?
https://youtu.be/2YymGJKhGgY
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Even if he did not force those deaths, he is responsible for walking away after knowing. And if he was in the car (even when he was not driving) that did cause the deaths he is still culpable (unless they held a gun to his as a hostage or something). Manslaughter charges are nothing to sneeze at, even if you were not the one pulling the trigger, so to speak....
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Isn't it just like the Bears to have a high pick and a player they want to only turn around and the player does some brainless thing to screw things up.... Bearrrssse... ::)
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The NFLPA released its report cards on teams. The Bears scored mid-level but some of the comments are interesting.
https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards
Bears are rated as having good weight room, locker room, but not so good on the nutrition or how it handles families.
Its pretty interesting stuff......
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https://news.yahoo.com/state-lawmaker-apologized-suggesting-tennessee-140117417.html
The guy made a stupid statement. But the proposed bill had nothing to do with "lynching" and was/is all about the firing squad (which I think is stupid as well).
Can someone please shut the damm door.. What a bunch a fukking morons...
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FMIA Combine Week: Ryan Poles on “Healing” the Bears and His Plan for the First Overall Pick (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/06/ryan-poles-chicago-bears-nfl-combine-draft-peter-king-fmia/?cid=fmiatw)
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From the above link:
Interested parties: If Houston wants to cut off a suitor for, say, Bryce Young, the Bears could double-trade—taking perhaps two high (but not first-round) picks to go to number two, then deal again for a team, in this example, desperate for C.J. Stroud or Anthony Richardson. Las Vegas will be interested if there’s a QB Josh McDaniels really likes, but I’m dubious the Raiders will be desperate enough to do what Indy or Carolina would do to move up.
Outside shots. Seattle, at five, likely would have to lose Geno Smith in free-agency to get heavily involved. There’s no book on new Tennessee GM Ran Carthon, so never say never. But for him to outbid Carolina would surprise me.
“I’m blessed to be able to read people,” Poles said about the QB market. “I can feel it. There’s urgency out there. There’s pressure.”
One interesting thing to keep in mind: When the league year begins March 15, teams can trade draft picks in 2023, ’24 and ’25. Beginning on draft day, April 27, teams can trade picks in ’23, ’24, ’25 and ’26. That could make waiting interesting for Chicago.
The three interested parties at the Combine, Poles said, included at least one “that’s further back than what I thought … But if I’m going to the next tier [on the Bears’ draft board], you’re gonna have to make up for that with more capital.
“The interesting part is having a conversation with one team, and then one hour later another team texts you wanting in on the trade and they’re not afraid of what the floor of what you’re asking for is.”
This is the sense I got from Poles, the unspoken sense: He views this as, potentially, the gift that keeps on giving. Everyone has seen what the Eagles have done in gathering more and more draft capital; last year they traded the 16th and 19th overall picks to the Saints for the 18th pick plus additional picks in the first, second and third rounds.
“No one’s gonna rush me,” Poles said. “I know I can get a ’24 one and a ’25 one. You’re telling me for the next two years I’ll have two ones? That’s either four really good players, or if we’re cruising, we can still trade back.”
Good year to be running the Bears’ draft, for once. Now Poles just has to find the right deal.
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tic...tic...tic...tic...tic... you can feel this forum counting down into its rightful place in the past.
If an admin starts a 2023 Bears forum not only would Bears fans here on Earth be grateful but also our bases on the Moon and Mars would be too.
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Orlando Brown is a FA. that would be my #1 target in the FA market. He's only 26 and an anchor for an o-line. Not often a stud LT comes available on the FA market at that age.
Marcus Davenport is the 2nd target, and I think Jamel Dean from the Bucs is my 3rd. If we can sign those 3 players no matter what happens in the draft its been a great offseason.]
A cheaper CB target would be Sean Murphy Bunting.
I think Brown/Davenport are must haves considering the state of both lines.
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Greg Gabriel has tweeted that Orlando Brown does not fit the Bears OLine scheme
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if you cant make a player like that fit... something is wrong with the scheme.
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Enough with forcing square pegs into round holes. Maybe draft/sign guys for a oline positions they are suited (and have played) for ? Novel idea ! It. Just. Might. Work......
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I like Gabriel and listen to his podcast all the time, but that's bullshit! Brown's combine numbers are ancient history. He's young, he's an upgrade, and he's experienced. Frontload the hell out of that contract and go from there. I totally understand about spending wisely and all. But the Bears got money that they HAVE (https://twitter.com/PFF_Brad/status/1620140509154152448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1620140509154152448%7Ctwgr%5E9bc12ffb0aab43707d2021790277076005ae5f98%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportsmockery.com%2Fchicago-bears%2Fcap-expert-reveals-how-insane-chicago-bears-free-agency-will-be%2F) to spend in order to meet a league wide spending baseline. I would be very disappointed if Orlando Brown Jr. is not a Chicago Bear.
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It was Gabriel who also said McGlincy didnt fit the Bears scheme. I agree, change the scheme if you get a stud like that.
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Let’s not over hype Orlando Brown . In December he had the most pressures allowed by any left tackle in the league to that point. He finished better the last few games. Against Cincinnati in the AFC championship he had 7 pressures.I don’t know the final stats but his reputation is a good but not great player.
Two teams have let him walk.
I would like to see what options there are first.
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I'm in the camp that doesn't pursue Orlando Brown. If you look at where Braxton Jones came from (Utah St.) and what he was able to accomplish last year and his potential for growth I'm thinking the Bears look at signing a RT in free agency.
Depending on how the draft goes another tackle might be an early pick too.
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I don't know that the Bears will target WR early in the draft. I know WR is a need but D-line and O-line are bigger needs.
What do you think about signing DJ Chark? He's a FA from the Lions. Big (6-4) and fast (sub 4.4 40). Didn't have a great year stat-wise but he's put up 1000 yard pro bowl season in J'ville a few years ago.
He's 26 going on 27. He looked good against the Bears in the 2nd meeting.
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The Chicago Bears are trading the no.1 overall pick in the 2023 NFL Draft to the Carolina Panthers according to NFL Networks Ian Rapoport.
The Bears will receive the no.9, no.61, a 2024 first-round pick, and a 2025-second round pick and star wide receiver DJ Moore.
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Moore
Claypool
Moony
Nice start.
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JBN- 1971 posts, have to all be on the cubs board. I haven't seen you here in a long time...
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Chi, its been about 6 years.
But this breaking news actually has me excited. So many holes to fill though.
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Chi, its been about 6 years.
But this breaking news actually has me excited. So many holes to fill though.
Agree about the holes to fill, I just wish we didn't drop so far down. But, getting D J Moore should help immensely as long as we can get the o line straightened out. I'm still a bit of a cynic, been a Bears fan too long...
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What is Moore's contract situation?
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Signed for the next 3 years: $20M, $16M, $16M (according to spotrac)
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I DJ Moore all that good? I honestly dont know much about him. Is he a true #1 or just a good player, like a #2?
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D.J. Moore is a true #1. He is a stud who has produced with really shitty QBs. He can separate and run precise routes consistently. The next time he scores a 62 yard potentially game winning touchdown, he just needs to keep his helmet on. The Packers tried to trade a 1st rounder for Moore and they tried to trade their 2nd for Claypool. In a bad FA year for WR, those guys would be at the top of the list. The Panthers insisted that they give up a '25 1st. Pole countered with Moore and a '25 2nd, held firm, and won. And frankly none of this would have been possible without Lovie Smith who should be at the podium announcing the Bear's first pick on draft day.
Per Brad Spielberger (https://twitter.com/PFF_Brad/status/1634331754495451139)
D.J. Moore helps Justin Fields attack the intermediate area of the field, an area he did well targeting in 2022:
- Fields led NFL with a 66.7% completion percentage on throws 10-19 yards downfield
- D.J. Moore's 172 targets 10-19 yards downfield from 2019-22 is 2nd-most in NFL
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/11/bears-still-have-nfls-most-salary-cap-space-after-adding-d-j-moores-20m-cap-hit/
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I personally think Fields is going to help DJ Moore as much as DJ Moore is going to help Fields. This will truly be one of those 1+1=2.5 type of pairings. Of course they both have to prove me right this season, but that is what I personally am expecting.
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Free Agency is about to begin. This is where the roster rebuild begins:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/3/12/23635460/bears-free-agent-primer-break-down-need-target-ryan-poles-orlando-brown-javon-hargrave-dremont-jones?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=031323%20Sports&utm_content=031323%20Sports+CID_97405ca36de760e3167268bc2fb8da47&utm_source=cst%20campaign%20monitor&utm_term=Bears%20free-agency%20primer%20Analyzing%20needs%20targets&tpcc=031323%20Sports
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2022 is over.
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Whiner!
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Whiner whiner chicken....diner.....