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Title: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 17, 2022, 03:45:35 pm
Hope springs eternal!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on March 17, 2022, 03:48:20 pm
Sure she does.  Somebody keeps pinching her butt.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 17, 2022, 03:58:34 pm
Jordan Wicks on the bump to start the 4th...
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 17, 2022, 04:15:27 pm
Wicks starts the 5th as well...

Changeup and curve both look as advertised...then he gives up a solo HR on the fastball...just cleared the fence...
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 17, 2022, 04:17:44 pm
After a single to LF, Dixon Machado makes a great play at SS to start a 6-4-3.

He's been in the KBO the past few seasons...wasn't he highly regarded at one point while with Detroit?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 17, 2022, 04:29:38 pm
Ed Howard in at SS...starts a nice 6-4-3...
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 17, 2022, 04:56:27 pm
Palencia pitched the 7th...he's the guy we got from Oakland in the Chafin deal...

Looked pretty good...I heard some reports last season about bad mound presence, hope that's not a concern going forward...
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 17, 2022, 04:59:28 pm
Caissie at the bat!

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on March 18, 2022, 01:47:32 pm
Yeah well shoot, it’s a reason to live.  Baseball.  And this forum.  Live to post another day, I say.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on March 18, 2022, 07:29:03 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on March 18, 2022, 11:56:09 pm
Going into the bottom of the eighth, and the Giants' hit total is a very round number.

Eric Yardley is coming in to keep the masterpiece going.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on March 19, 2022, 04:20:44 am
Yardley fails but the Cubs go on to win 7-3.  Dermody pitches the ninth.

For both teams the non-roster players seem to have jerseys with only numbers on the backs, but the rostered guys have names.  And among the number-only jerseys for our team, some have the numbers positioned so that a name can be inserted, and some don't.

I say dump the names altogether.  The Cubs should look like the traditional team that they are.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on March 19, 2022, 12:57:59 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on March 19, 2022, 03:41:08 pm
Canario got robbed of a HR to right center. Davis is a big dude.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on March 19, 2022, 04:12:04 pm
Two hitless innings for Steele.  We've got all these old roster-fill pitchers.  It would be sure be nice if somebody young who could be a part of things for 6 years would turn out to be solid. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on March 19, 2022, 04:27:05 pm
Brennan Davis with a 3 run HR. Looked like he didn't even swing hard - short stroke.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on March 19, 2022, 05:22:47 pm
Leeper’s slider wasn’t in mid-season form but it was still getting whiffs. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on March 19, 2022, 05:33:02 pm
Watched Leeper's inning.  He looked good, I thought.  His college history was wildman, so I wondered how he'd looked.  But he had only one or two that got away, otherwise even the misses were good pitches. 

Man, he was throwing it quick.  Pitch clock won't bother that guy! 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on March 19, 2022, 05:59:21 pm
He looked good, but that wasn’t his best stuff. He’s what he hoped Maples could become.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: DUSTY on March 19, 2022, 09:33:58 pm
Watching the replay on MLB Network of the Cubs game today and they said Jed Hoyer's player comp to Brennan Davis is Matt Kemp.

I can see it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on March 19, 2022, 09:50:05 pm
You’d take that. Though hopefully he ages better.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on March 20, 2022, 07:48:51 am
Watching the replay on MLB Network of the Cubs game today and they said Jed Hoyer's player comp to Brennan Davis is Matt Kemp.

I can see it.

Body comp, not as a player.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: DUSTY on March 20, 2022, 09:20:26 am
He didnt say body comp.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on March 20, 2022, 09:33:45 am
He was on with Boog and JD on one of the games and they asked for a comp on Davis. Hoyer said he hated doing that, but amsaid a body comp was a young Kemp with smaller legs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: DUSTY on March 20, 2022, 09:43:13 am
JD just told what Hoyer said yesterday.

Hoyer wasnt on the broadcast I watched.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on March 20, 2022, 12:14:15 pm
Must have been the first game then.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: DUSTY on March 20, 2022, 12:22:29 pm
It was the game Brennan Davis hit a HR in.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on March 20, 2022, 12:34:24 pm
When Hoyer was in the booth and talking with JD and Boog. It was the first or second game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on March 20, 2022, 01:24:09 pm
MLB Network

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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on March 20, 2022, 01:33:38 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 20, 2022, 04:08:53 pm
Did Mills pitch the 2nd?

One of my former players is scheduled to throw for the Cubs today, and I hope I didn’t miss him…I just turned the game on…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on March 20, 2022, 04:15:40 pm
Yes, it was Mills in the 2nd inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on March 20, 2022, 04:22:24 pm
Who's your man, Dave?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 20, 2022, 04:26:53 pm
Jarod Wright…pitched for MB last season…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 20, 2022, 04:49:55 pm
PCA beats the shift nicely…first bunting one just foul, then inside outing one between the 3Bman and the bag…nice piece of hitting!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 20, 2022, 04:51:21 pm
If we have to DH Frazier most of the time to keep him healthy, I’m good with that. He’s a player when healthy.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on March 20, 2022, 04:52:07 pm
PCA looks like a high schooler still. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: DUSTY on March 20, 2022, 05:32:20 pm
Im watching.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on March 21, 2022, 01:15:44 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 21, 2022, 01:29:06 pm
So, as it turns out, Jarod was an extra for work yesterday, rather than scheduled…he actually got hot in the 2nd, when Mills worked his way into trouble, but Mills worked his way out of it.

He was pretty excited about the chance to work against some of the Dodgers starters…I hope he gets a shot.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on March 21, 2022, 04:42:30 pm
Brennan Davis left the game today after a HBP to his right knee. It's a right knee contusion according to Jordan Bastian.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 22, 2022, 03:11:43 pm
Caissie starting in RF, batting 9th...
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on March 22, 2022, 08:45:36 pm
Caissie with a line double and bloop single. 

Ethan Roberts looks like he might be a good one.

Rivas with two walks.  I hope he makes the team.  I would like to see he and Madrigal hitting back to back.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on March 23, 2022, 07:54:24 pm
Cayne Ueckert looked like a viable big league reliever.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on March 23, 2022, 08:08:36 pm
I think Roberts will be up sometime this year also.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on March 23, 2022, 10:08:18 pm
Cayne Ueckert looked like a viable big league reliever.

Callis in the new Pipeline prospect report re. Ueckert:

[Ueckert] began 2021 as an almost-25-year-old in High-A. He finished it in Double-A with a combined 1.45 ERA and 37 strikeouts in 31 innings between the two stops and turned himself into a legitimate prospect.

Opponents batted just .129/.228/.238 against Ueckert, who took to some mechanical changes and came back from his layoff with dramatically improved stuff. His fastball gained 3-4 mph and now sits at 95-97 mph and reaches 99 with good carry in the zone. He backs it up with a short slider that often climbs into the low 90s and ties up both left-handers and right-handers.

Ueckert has gotten stronger and has cleaned up his delivery since signing, which gave a boost to not only his stuff but also his control. He cut his walk rate from 5.7 per nine innings in two years at McNeese State to 4.6 in his debut to 3.5 last season. If he can build off his momentum from 2021, he could pitch in the big leagues this year and develop into a late-inning reliever.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 24, 2022, 04:31:02 pm
Preciado is bigger than I imagined.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 24, 2022, 04:34:58 pm
Triantos wearing #11…rips an 0-2 fastball into LCF for a 2 out hit
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on March 24, 2022, 07:03:02 pm
Triantos wearing #11…rips an 0-2 fastball into LCF for a 2 out hit

The Greek student in me wants him to wear #30 (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%84%CF%81%CE%B9%CE%AC%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B1#Greek).

Cayne Ueckert seems to be wearing #67: https://fourseamimages.photoshelter.com/image/I00004v0ajvgeMxo

...so does that mean that Rivas has been given a 'real' number this year?

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on March 25, 2022, 01:09:07 pm
Chicago Cubs

Batting 2nd, playing right field.  Today.

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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on March 25, 2022, 04:28:49 pm
Suzuki probably wondering what he's gotten himself into.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on March 25, 2022, 05:46:07 pm
How'd he look on his K's? 
Suzuki probably wondering what he's gotten himself into.

Are you saying the blowout game score?  Or is Suzuki looking kind of overmatched on his K's? 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on March 25, 2022, 06:16:11 pm
Both strikeouts were on high pitches that were called strikes.  Both seemed to be marginal, and could be called either way.  He looked rather irritated after the second one, although you can't tell if he were irritated with the umpire or with himself.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on March 25, 2022, 07:07:15 pm
I wasn't suggesting that Suzuki was in over his head.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on March 25, 2022, 07:28:11 pm
I wasn't suggesting that Suzuki was in over his head.

A couple of those strike calls just about were.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on March 28, 2022, 06:07:55 pm
The DirecTV channel guide shows the game as being televised on the MLB Network.

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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 28, 2022, 06:28:01 pm
It’ll be blacked out for me, since the Reds are “local” to West Tennessee…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on March 28, 2022, 06:32:14 pm
I wonder if Ross is toying with batting Frazier in the leadoff spot.  One of the most patient hitters in MLB.  The threat of power.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 28, 2022, 10:47:49 pm
Not blacked out here, for some reason…

I hope Davis is as good as he looks. He just crushed that ball.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 29, 2022, 03:53:26 pm
The game is on 686 DirecTV, for those of you who don’t get Marquee…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 29, 2022, 05:44:26 pm
Top 9, Cubs clinging to a 3-2 lead…

2-run HR for Contreras, solo shot for Vargas…only 2 hits today…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on March 30, 2022, 01:08:34 pm
MLB Network televises

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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 30, 2022, 03:55:06 pm
Eury Ramos chucking easy 97-98 in the 3rd inning today vs the Mariners
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on March 30, 2022, 04:36:53 pm
Does he look anything like Juan Cruz on the mound?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on March 30, 2022, 04:53:12 pm
https://youtu.be/YE6MJcOlWPo
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on March 30, 2022, 07:24:35 pm
Does he look anything like Juan Cruz on the mound?

No.  Much bigger.  I watched his AB, he looked kinda high-effort to me.  Didn't look that smooth. But he is fast, definitely, big-league arm for sure. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on March 30, 2022, 08:09:41 pm
Does he look anything like Juan Cruz on the mound?

BR lists Ramos at 6’3, 152.

Looking at him today, I’d estimate that he’s maybe 50 lbs. heavier than that now.

Glanville noted on broadcast that even his pitches down in the zone were showing 98 on the ballpark gun, in addition to the 4-seamers. One of the sinkers had really good action. Threw one off-speed pitch at 88—-in the dirt. Faced Eugenio Suarez, who didn’t seem that comfortable against him (flied to RF). Looks definitely like a reliever, not a starter, at least from the 7 pitches threw today. Like a million other guys like this, can he throw strikes and have a useful off-speed pitch?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on March 30, 2022, 08:39:28 pm
Like a million other guys like this, can he throw strikes and have a useful off-speed pitch?

This is what's so interesting.  So many power-armed guys, yet so few make it.  Really fascinating.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on March 31, 2022, 01:29:44 am
FFS, play Frazier every day until he proves you shouldn’t.  We have so few genuinely intriguing players at the big league level. Let’s see what he can do, not waste ABs on guys who have no chance to be part of the future core.


Just as a point of reference, Frazier had better career numbers through age 25 than Castellanos did.  And a higher OPS in the minors.  Last year he wasn’t healthy, and like Castellanos he’s a butcher with the glove.  But he has a chance to be a legit difference maker with the bat.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on March 31, 2022, 08:18:29 am
LOL, like others said, Ramos is definitely more filled out than Cruz ever dreamed of being.

Then again, aren’t we all?
Title: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 02, 2022, 10:05:27 pm
https://twitter.com/paulbyrd36/status/1510404838693163010?s=21&t=xxu6-3xQn3N9CnjhnDbCUQ


https://twitter.com/watchmarquee/status/1510382217255608320?s=21&t=p-mBKELQy1TKSBX0mtS_1g
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on April 03, 2022, 10:36:26 pm
Another massive home run by Canario.  It looks like perhaps the Cubs got two good ones for Bryant.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 04, 2022, 12:27:51 am
Unfortunately they don’t credit runs by the foot.

The issue with Canario will never be raw power - he has that to burn.  The issue will be whether he can improve his pitch recognition and contact rate to the point where the power is playable. The glove is serviceable at worst, so if he can do that he can be a meaningful player.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 04, 2022, 01:32:29 am
Unfortunately they don’t credit runs by the foot.

The issue with Canario will never be raw power - he has that to burn.  The issue will be whether he can improve his pitch recognition and contact rate to the point where the power is playable. The glove is serviceable at worst, so if he can do that he can be a meaningful player.

Oh, goodness, the ambiguity of it all.

Man, do you love him or hate him?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 04, 2022, 01:53:57 am
Seriously, any hobby.  Stamps, electric trains...  Maybe try Pokemon Go.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 04, 2022, 02:06:13 am
Yeah, you should do that.

Curious why you are following a baseball season that you were rooting to be cancelled?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 04, 2022, 02:16:53 am
Wow, vicious comeback.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 04, 2022, 02:25:26 am
What? You just told me to go away and do something else in the post prior.

I’m here. You’re here. Lots to discuss this season.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 05, 2022, 09:26:05 am
Early forecast for the home opener against the Brewers on Thursday afternoon:

44°
38% chance of light rain
Wind out to center at 17 mph
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 05, 2022, 02:32:09 pm
Hermosillo smokes a 3-run blast deep to LF in the 1st…

3-0 Cubs
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 05, 2022, 04:40:38 pm
Jordan Nwogu just turned on a high heater and blasted it deep over the LF wall.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 05, 2022, 04:49:48 pm
Totally unrelated…I just added these to my collection…

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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 05, 2022, 05:06:03 pm
Christian Hernandez in at SS…commits the Cubs 6th error of the day…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 05, 2022, 05:44:22 pm
Oh, and before I forget…Danis Correa has an electric arm…

FB is straight, and hittable, but he also hit 101 on the park gun…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 07, 2022, 09:37:34 am
Umpires for #Brewers (0-0) at #Cubs (0-0):
Ted Barrett, Lance Barksdale, Nic Lentz, Nestor Ceja (base assignments not confirmed until first pitch)

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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 07, 2022, 09:46:59 am
This should be a great year!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 07, 2022, 10:00:03 am
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 07, 2022, 10:08:48 am
It will be an interesting test for a more contact oriented team vs a strike out pitcher.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 07, 2022, 12:32:42 pm
45°  Wind out to right-center at 20 mph

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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on April 07, 2022, 12:38:41 pm
Looks like a miserable day for baseball.  Probably worse tomorrow.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on April 07, 2022, 12:39:47 pm
Springtime in Chicago.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 07, 2022, 01:30:34 pm
Ortega starts off with a walk.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on April 07, 2022, 01:37:00 pm
Good approach from Cub hitters so far. Making Burnes work, not allowing him to speed the game dramatically w/ PitchCom device, and showing a good eye through the first few hitters.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 07, 2022, 02:00:27 pm
Suzuki had a really nice first PA drawing the walk.  Got a nice standing ovation before his at bat too.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 07, 2022, 02:01:21 pm
Heyward almost with an inning ending double play, but he hit it too softly. 
Burnes with 2 walks so far. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 07, 2022, 02:02:12 pm
That was not a Kirk Gibson like at bat from Heyward there.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 07, 2022, 02:20:48 pm
Hendricks with 10 swings and misses thru 3 innings.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on April 07, 2022, 02:58:28 pm
It would be nice if Hoerner could run with the shortstop job while Simmons is out.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 07, 2022, 04:04:20 pm
Happ!!!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 07, 2022, 04:04:36 pm
I'm glad Happ was saving it for the regular season.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 07, 2022, 04:16:02 pm
I know, the wind and everything, but Nico Hoerner hit a home run.  He’s going to figure out how to hit more home runs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 07, 2022, 04:16:10 pm
I guess it looks like our patchwork bullpen is already going to be tested today.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 07, 2022, 04:19:00 pm
Rowdy Tellez has all of the baserunning grace of Hector Villanueva.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 07, 2022, 04:24:40 pm
Givens!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 07, 2022, 04:27:27 pm
Swings and Misses:

Hendricks  17

Burnes  11
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 07, 2022, 04:41:22 pm
Cubs Win!!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 07, 2022, 04:42:57 pm
Cubs 5 Milwaukee 4
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 07, 2022, 04:43:46 pm
Cubs in first place!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 07, 2022, 04:58:01 pm
Hot Dog!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on April 07, 2022, 04:59:05 pm
Pretty successful opening day, I'd say.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 07, 2022, 05:51:21 pm
Nico's HR was on a bad hanger, but it's encouraging that he did what he did.  Most HRs are on mistakes anyway.

If the Cubs are going to have any sort of semi-successful season (on the field), getting off to a good start would help.  So much of the roster is unproven - to varying degrees - and confidence will be a big deal.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 07, 2022, 05:58:56 pm
This is going to be Nico’s year.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 07, 2022, 06:10:17 pm
Nico's HR was on a bad hanger, but it's encouraging that he did what he did.  Most HRs are on mistakes anyway.

If the Cubs are going to have any sort of semi-successful season (on the field), getting off to a good start would help.  So much of the roster is unproven - to varying degrees - and confidence will be a big deal.

I saw two Cubs games in person last year.  One was the last game they played before the All-Star break against the Cardinals at Wrigley which was getting pretty close to being the swan song for the Bryant, Rizzo, Baez crew.  The other was a game in Cincinnati with the likes of Ortega, Wisdom, Schwindel, Happ etc.

The Cubs game with the 2016 Cubs core winding their time down was a completely listless affair, ending in a Cubs loss, and it was the game where Contreras chewed the team out for not putting forth a good effort after the game.  The Cubs weren't a lot of fun to watch that game, and I just got more enjoyment out of going to Wrigley for the first time in five years more than anything that was happening on the field.

The Ortega/Schwindel Cubs played hard and smart against the Reds and won fairly handily.  Even without nearly the talent the Cubs had in July, they were playing hard and a lot more fun to watch. 

We may not be great this year, but these guys will bust their tails off.  We do have a team full of guys that were written off by other teams, weren't handed anything, and at least a few of them probably have some chips on their shoulders.  Days like today can show that if things go in the right way and if we take advantage of some mistakes that we can have some fun wins to enjoy.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 07, 2022, 06:29:55 pm
Agreed.  The biggest variable is that you have to be able to run out a viable starting pitcher every day.  Can we do that?  Time will tell.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 07, 2022, 07:30:30 pm
That’s all well and good, but usually guys are written off by organizations for the Occam’s Razor reason.  And contenders aren’t built out of those guys very often.  It’ll be nice to see guys playing hard to prove themselves, but your chances of success are better with a bunch of elite players on the roster.

After the mental funk the Cubs have seemed to be in as their core slowly faded into the wallpaper these last couple of seasons, it’s easy to see why this sort of roster would seem refreshing.  Enjoy first place while we have it because it won’t be for long, but the sorting hat process will be interesting to watch all season.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 07, 2022, 07:46:03 pm
I do actually believe that the new "market inefficiency" is AAAA players who were never given a real shot.  Can you make a contender's "core" out of these players?  Nope.  But I think you can round out a roster in a very cost effective way with them.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 07, 2022, 08:26:35 pm
I do actually believe that the new "market inefficiency" is AAAA players who were never given a real shot.  Can you make a contender's "core" out of these players?  Nope.  But I think you can round out a roster in a very cost effective way with them.

When you say “round out a roster” do you mean fill in around the edges for a contender (and I do think that’s possible)?  Or you mean make an entire roster out of them, which is pretty much what the Cubs have done apart from about four or five guys?  I mean you can do that, but you sure as hell can’t contend doing it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: DUSTY on April 07, 2022, 08:48:04 pm
Lets not kid ourselves.

This wont end well.

Ill still love them either way.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 07, 2022, 09:03:42 pm
It’s just sad at how winnable this division is.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 07, 2022, 09:12:43 pm
We got one win, the first win, we’re in first place.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 07, 2022, 09:47:53 pm
We got one win, the first win, we’re in first place.

Indeed - let’s enjoy it.  Ray Zalinsky’s last words to Tommy Boy spring uninvited to mind.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 07, 2022, 11:32:47 pm
We may not be great this year, but these guys will bust their tails off.  We do have a team full of guys that were written off by other teams, weren't handed anything, and at least a few of them probably have some chips on their shoulders. 

This is the kind of thing that goes on a locker room bulletin board to inspire the guys; I love it!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 08, 2022, 12:19:40 am
https://youtu.be/B-4HtSdUYX4
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 08, 2022, 06:24:40 am
Deeg - the former.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 08, 2022, 09:55:27 am
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 08, 2022, 10:06:19 am
40°
60% chance of light rain
Wind in from the left field corner at 11 mph

(https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/lite/KLOT_loop.gif)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: wmljohn on April 08, 2022, 11:02:36 am
I want to change my 60-102 prediction for this year.

My new prediction is 102-60.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 08, 2022, 11:47:47 am
Today's game has been postponed and will be made up May 30.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 08, 2022, 11:54:35 am
The makeup game is scheduled for Monday, May 30, at 6:40 p.m. CDT, as the second game of a split doubleheader. The originally scheduled game that day has been shifted to start at 12:05 p.m.

A doubleheader on Memorial Day - just the way it should be.  My first ever visit to Wrigley Field was such a day.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 09, 2022, 09:55:49 am
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on April 09, 2022, 01:52:21 pm
Cubs first inning against Woodruff: BB, HBP, BB, BB (run scores), RBI groundout, sac fly, infield hit that should be called E-4, flyout. Cubs score 3 runs without a real hit, and Woodruff might be done for the day after 40 pitches.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 09, 2022, 01:53:01 pm
Cubs up 3-0 after one inning on just one hit.   
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 09, 2022, 02:55:15 pm
Brewers have hit Willson 15 times. He’s been hit 59 times in his career.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 09, 2022, 03:10:08 pm
Cubs have more runs than hits.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 09, 2022, 03:37:02 pm
Steele’s gotta feel good, especially if we hold on.  And continue to be in first place.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on April 09, 2022, 03:55:45 pm
Great start for Steele, and the approach by Cub hitters these first two games has been absolutely phenomenal.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 09, 2022, 04:00:24 pm
Jesus…that 7th inning stretch was worse than Ozzy and Sharon’s…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 09, 2022, 04:11:52 pm
This is getting ridiculous…some Brewer needs to wear one for the team…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 09, 2022, 04:22:27 pm
And that’s how you do it…point made…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 09, 2022, 04:50:54 pm
I wonder what was the last time a shutout was pitched by the Cubs using nothing but homegrown pitchers.  Zambrano?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on April 09, 2022, 05:33:30 pm
I wonder what was the last time a shutout was pitched by the Cubs using nothing but homegrown pitchers.  Zambrano?

Interesting question!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 09, 2022, 05:37:05 pm
Even more interesting...I wonder what was the last time an entire game of any outcome was pitched by the Cubs using nothing but homegrown pitchers.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 09, 2022, 06:06:32 pm
Samardzija?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 09, 2022, 06:08:12 pm
Could be.  2 CG in 2013.  A bygone era.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 09, 2022, 06:15:11 pm
Unless you count Mills or Hendricks, it has to be Jeff. I doubt Pierce Johnson ever through a complete game for the Cubs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 09, 2022, 06:19:11 pm
I'm not even talking about a complete game.  Something like Alzolay-Rucker-Maples would qualify.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 09, 2022, 06:24:26 pm
Steele, Alvolay 9/1/21 against the Twins.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 09, 2022, 06:26:07 pm
Blah.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 09, 2022, 06:27:54 pm
It is really weird that Willson has been hit by the Brewers for 25% of his career HBP. I generally not a fan of bean wars, but if they hit him again Yelich needs to wear one.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 09, 2022, 06:43:45 pm
Guessing that today’s game might end up as Brewers’ worst-played game of the season through 162.

Although no errors charged, Brewers played a very poor defensive game, pitchers walked guys, wild pitch, hit batters, and offensively they did nothing against quite a few 92/93 fastballs that caught a whole lot of the plate.

Well, it’s one game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 09, 2022, 07:04:53 pm
Really?

So Wisdom got an infield single and 2RBI on a ground ball to SS?

Unreal…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 09, 2022, 07:31:40 pm
Runners were going on 3-2 pitch, 2 outs, and grounder was bobbled.

Generous scoring decision.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 09, 2022, 09:34:00 pm
Sunday’s starter, Peralta, dominated Cubs in 2021.

3-0  2.39 ERA  41 Ks in 29.1 IP
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 09, 2022, 10:23:02 pm
https://youtu.be/BjpD3vhO4dA
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 10, 2022, 09:48:04 am
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 10, 2022, 10:25:27 am
A three game sweep of the Sewers would be a very excellent way to start the season.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on April 10, 2022, 11:59:56 am
If we beat their 3 best pitchers, Milwaukee will have to be put on suicide watch.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on April 10, 2022, 01:41:03 pm
Another first inning lead for the Cubs, this one on a 3 run homer by Suzuki.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 10, 2022, 01:42:30 pm
Crushed it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 10, 2022, 01:42:47 pm
That’s gonna get him over the MLB jitters.  Wow.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 10, 2022, 01:53:58 pm
https://youtu.be/F6Y2w26YFtQ
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 10, 2022, 02:38:37 pm
The double play is like the opposite of fouling a pitch off with two strikes.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 10, 2022, 03:06:03 pm
You take Chavez out now right?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 10, 2022, 03:06:40 pm
Too late.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on April 10, 2022, 03:10:00 pm
I know Spring Training was short. But Stroman is a veteran, a fitness nut, and not a high effort guy. With his preparation, I'm sure when he came into camp, he'd been training exactly how he normally would from mid-February to early March. Did he really need to be pulled after 79 pitches?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 10, 2022, 03:28:47 pm
Wild wild pitches couldn’t drag me away.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 10, 2022, 04:03:17 pm
It would just feel right as rain if we can come back and take this one. Two innings we got and we got last ups.  Nico bats in the ninth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 10, 2022, 04:32:46 pm
And he strikes out swinging to end the game.  Hoerner.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 10, 2022, 04:54:34 pm
I know Spring Training was short. But Stroman is a veteran, a fitness nut, and not a high effort guy. With his preparation, I'm sure when he came into camp, he'd been training exactly how he normally would from mid-February to early March. Did he really need to be pulled after 79 pitches?

Even if Stroman came out for the sixth, very likely Chavez pitches today in any case. Chavez had not yet pitched this season. Was going to pitch today and just had no movement from his cutter and sinker.

Problem today was Chavez’ performance, not failure to attempt getting more outs from Stroman.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 12, 2022, 11:26:36 am
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 12, 2022, 04:05:23 pm
Terrific play by Hoerner.  Keeps the runner at second and throws out the batter while in the air.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 12, 2022, 04:31:07 pm
Susuki with a solo home run, he’s seeing the ball pretty good.  That’s what it’s all about, huh?  How well do you see the ball? I - 0 Cubs bottom 5, one out double for Marisnek.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 12, 2022, 04:36:53 pm
Hoerner with another solid play for the third out.  Top 6 Cubs up 1 - 0. Nico leads off.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 12, 2022, 05:00:02 pm
Man, Vogelbach really is a tank.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on April 12, 2022, 05:07:30 pm
Suzuki is pretty good.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 12, 2022, 05:08:41 pm
So this Suzuki-sama ain't bad.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on April 12, 2022, 05:10:51 pm
When he's not clubbing dongs, per MLB.com, Suzuki has the lowest chase rate in all of baseball through the first few games of the season.

It's obviously *very* early, but plate discipline statistics tend to have value much earlier than most due to how quickly a hitter gets to a meaningful sample size when considered on a per-pitch metric.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 12, 2022, 05:33:43 pm
When he's not clubbing dongs, per MLB.com, Suzuki has the lowest chase rate in all of baseball through the first few games of the season.

It's obviously *very* early, but plate discipline statistics tend to have value much earlier than most due to how quickly a hitter gets to a meaningful sample size when considered on a per-pitch metric.

You never know how a guy will fare against MLB pitching until they prove it.  But with Seiya you know the approach and raw power will be there.  Even if he struggles against elite stuff he’ll still punish mistakes enough to hit 20-25 HR.  He’ll still draw walks and play a very good RF.  Way too early to know if he’ll be a star but the floor is pretty high.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 12, 2022, 05:59:19 pm
Who’s are closer, I can’t remember.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on April 12, 2022, 06:27:49 pm
Robertson closes it out - Cubs win!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 12, 2022, 06:33:44 pm
Prediction - if the Cubs SP have a sub-2 ERA all season, we'll contend.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on April 12, 2022, 06:38:10 pm
I will say when Heyward's not playing, the lineup feels decidedly anti-awful. May be wishful thinking on my part, but I'll enjoy the fantasy while it lasts.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 12, 2022, 06:46:45 pm
Obviously it's just the Pirates, but nice pitching performance for us today.

It'd definitely be nice if Robertson-Givens-Roberts turned into a reliable late inning triumvirate.  We might have a shot at winning some 6 inning games if those guys pitch well.  Chris Martin also had a clean relief inning.

This actually might be a decent formula for us to luck our way into the last wild card spot.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 12, 2022, 06:51:22 pm
Obviously it's just the Pirates, but nice pitching performance for us today.

It'd definitely be nice if Robertson-Givens-Roberts turned into a reliable late inning triumvirate.  We might have a shot at winning some 6 inning games if those guys pitch well.  Chris Martin also had a clean relief inning.

This actually might be a decent formula for us to luck our way into the last wild card spot.

On that note, Wick seems to have pretty much dropped off the face of the planet after a dodgy ST.  I think he pitched 1/3 of an inning against Milwaukee?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 12, 2022, 07:10:30 pm
https://youtu.be/_YyQ0tA_X4U
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 12, 2022, 07:58:27 pm
Youtuber  Jomboy does a breakdown of the McCutchen HBP.  Jomboy's breakdowns and lip-reading are now famous enough that McCutchen reached out to him to make sure he got the lip-reading correct:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irPrP_Fp9sQ
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on April 12, 2022, 08:42:01 pm
On that note, Wick seems to have pretty much dropped off the face of the planet after a dodgy ST.  I think he pitched 1/3 of an inning against Milwaukee?
and he still got a Hold.  Lol
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 12, 2022, 08:47:09 pm
and he still got a Hold.  Lol

A strong candidate for most pointless stat in baseball.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on April 12, 2022, 09:57:26 pm
Yeah, Suzuki has been off to a great start.  And he looks balanced, like he knows what he's doing.  Would be so helpful if he turns out to be a solid, asset, skeleton piece. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 13, 2022, 08:53:59 am
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 13, 2022, 12:19:31 pm
What’s up with Hendricks?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 13, 2022, 01:04:08 pm
This designated hitter thing stinks.  But what is keeping Ross from pulling him?  Is this the Hendricks we’re going see down the road?  This is our ace?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 13, 2022, 01:10:58 pm
Top 5, Nico finally gets a hit to keep above the Mendoza line.  2 on nobody out , 6 - 2 Pirates.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 13, 2022, 01:11:40 pm
This designated hitter thing stinks.  But what is keeping Ross from pulling him?  Is this the Hendricks we’re going see down the road?  This is our ace?
As Boog and JD said, the Cubs start a four-games series in Colorado on Thursday so Ross is trying to save the bullpen for then.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 13, 2022, 01:16:44 pm
Tying run at the plate with COntreras. One out.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 13, 2022, 01:23:59 pm
Nothin’ doin’, top five bases loaded one out down by four Wilson at bat,  now it’s top six same score 6 - 2 Pirates.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 13, 2022, 01:36:19 pm
Oh yeah, what’s with Lunya (?) with her hand in her white underpants at the top of this site?  I’m afraid to click on it for fear I’d have to lock myself in the bathroom while all my money disappears.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on April 13, 2022, 01:37:37 pm
This designated hitter thing stinks.  But what is keeping Ross from pulling him?  Is this the Hendricks we’re going see down the road?  This is our ace?

We shall see, it will be interesting to see how it goes for Kyle.  He hasn't had many 4-walk games in his career, so hopefully/probably this is a fluke off day, and he doesn't have many more.  He was a 4.77-ERA pitcher last season, though, and allowed a ton of HR's last season (as well as in camp).  And he's pitched over 1200 big league innings and almost 500 more in the minors.  Who knows if that might start to wear on a guy's command?  Will be interesting to see how it progresses with him.  He's so resourceful, I'm hopeful that he's still got a whole lot of good starts in that arm and brain of his....
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on April 13, 2022, 02:25:22 pm
Wisdom now 1-17 with 9 K's.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on April 13, 2022, 02:29:21 pm
Might be wise to sit him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 13, 2022, 02:38:21 pm
Final score 6 - 2 Pirates.  Somehow that number or score seems ominous.  But paranoia strikes deep.

Cubs - 2 runs on 6 hits, 3 walks and 9 strikeouts.

Pirates - 6 runs on 8 hits, 5 walks, and also 9 strikeouts.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 13, 2022, 03:01:00 pm
Might be wise to sit him.

Playtwo is back to midseason form now!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 13, 2022, 03:33:02 pm
Wisdom now 1-17 with 9 K's.
Schwindel isn't much better at 4-17 with 5 Ks.

A frank assessment of his future might be the same as Wisdom's
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on April 13, 2022, 03:46:02 pm
Can't say I'd be shocked if they both turned out to be busts.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 13, 2022, 03:49:52 pm
Wisdom had a sure HR taken away by the wind. Frank has also had a handful of hard hit balls right at people, or been robbed by great defensive plays (including one today).

Too soon to judge, for sure, but both will definitely be scrutinized all season long...
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 13, 2022, 04:12:02 pm
I'm definitely a Wisdom non-believer, sorry to say, but Schwindel going 4-17 with 5 K's isn't that alarming for a small sample size.  In this era, there are lots of guys racking up 5 K's in any given 17 AB's.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 13, 2022, 04:37:49 pm
Might be wise to sit him.

The odds were always pretty high he was going to regress to unplayable, so it's a valid question how much leash you give him.  Villar as the everyday 3B seems like an inevitability.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: DUSTY on April 13, 2022, 05:54:16 pm
It wasnt wise to depend on either of them.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 13, 2022, 06:29:34 pm
I think it was certainly fine to give Schwindel the season to prove himself, as his underlying numbers suggested he might have legs as a passable offensive player and we were never likely to compete this year anyway.  Wisdom was kind of a dilemma.  On a team trying to win it would be criminal negligence breaking camp with him penciled in as an everyday player but again, it’s almost certainly another fire sale summer so a case could be made to see if he could somehow make enough contact to make his power usable (as unlikely as that was/is).
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 13, 2022, 06:31:34 pm
They did what they needed to do.  They had a complement/replacement on the roster for each of them.  Villar and Rivas.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on April 13, 2022, 06:47:37 pm
Last year Wisdom bore confidence in how he carried himself and at the plate.  Toward the end of the year and now this year, he looks like Kevin Orie.  He is just praying that something good happens.   If it doesn't turn around soon, he'll be checkin groceries at IGA.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 13, 2022, 07:08:25 pm
He has a good glove and if he closes his eyes and connects, he can hit the ball a long way.  There may be a role as a 26th man for somebody based on that.  Anything more seems very unlikely.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 13, 2022, 10:05:38 pm
….On a team trying to win it would be criminal negligence breaking camp with him penciled in as an everyday player…

For better or worse, there is no state in the USA that has criminal penalties for poor roster construction.

On the other hand, there are 22 states in which it is a Grade 2 Felony to root for the baseball season to be cancelled.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 14, 2022, 12:26:58 am
Whoa, what a comeback.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 14, 2022, 04:08:34 pm
Umpires for #Cubs (3-2) at #Rockies (4-1):
Marty Foster, Chris Conroy, Carlos Torres, Ron Kulpa

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQVUhpwXwAcGiFQ?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 14, 2022, 04:16:34 pm
Kris Bryant in a Rockies uniform.  :(
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 14, 2022, 04:49:42 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQVflOMWQAAbwdf?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 14, 2022, 06:51:58 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 14, 2022, 06:52:39 pm
I really need to see a game there one of these days.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 14, 2022, 07:07:55 pm
I really need to see a game there one of these days.
The park is all it is **** up to be.

A guy from Boulder recently told me that 16th St is not as safe as it has been in the past.


You can't use the word c-r-a-c-k-e-d?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 14, 2022, 07:58:18 pm
Cubs jump out to a three-run lead in the first with a succession of hits sandwiching a HBP to Hermosillo and a sloppy pickoff throw from the Rockies' catcher.

Happ hits into a double play to cut the inning short; I hope that doesn't come back to haunt us.  It was looking like a huge inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 14, 2022, 08:03:36 pm
And we now see why Jonathan Villar should NEVER play shortstop.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 14, 2022, 08:10:07 pm
Great pick by Schwindel, though, on the ball Madrigal ranged over to, and Steele follows it with a strikeout to end the inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 14, 2022, 08:24:46 pm
Early season fun - Villar has 9 hits in 10 AB on the year.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 14, 2022, 08:31:34 pm
The park is all it is **** up to be.

A guy from Boulder recently told me that 16th St is not as safe as it has been in the past.


You can't use the word c-r-a-c-k-e-d?

Yeah I’ve heard nothing but great things about it.  Hopefully if I ever go I can avoid the whole getting mugged thing.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 14, 2022, 08:36:13 pm
If you want to get mugged (or murdered), Baltimore is the trip to make.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 14, 2022, 08:37:28 pm
Trying to grasp Suzuki’s thinking on the baserunning DP.

If he thought 2 outs, why did he stop running 60 feet from 1B?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 14, 2022, 08:40:42 pm
If you want to get mugged (or murdered), Baltimore is the trip to make.

It’s pretty safe around Camden Yards and most of downtown.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 14, 2022, 08:47:38 pm
Is Villar's batting average higher than his fielding average?  How often do you see than when neither number is 1.000?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on April 14, 2022, 08:48:14 pm
Trying to grasp Suzuki’s thinking on the baserunning DP.

If he thought 2 outs, why did he stop running 60 feet from 1B?
We all know Orientals aren't good at math.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 14, 2022, 08:55:13 pm
Perfectly-timed double play grounder to shortstop from Iglesias ends the inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 14, 2022, 09:06:42 pm
We all know Orientals aren't good at math.

Purple Curt, purple.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 14, 2022, 09:07:54 pm
Early season fun - Villar has 9 hits in 10 AB on the year.

He doesn’t, though?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 14, 2022, 09:10:53 pm
He doesn’t, though?

You are correct.  I misunderstood Boog's and JD's conversation.  I guess I need to put the whisky down.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 14, 2022, 09:12:34 pm
It's bad baserunning night at Coors.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 14, 2022, 09:16:29 pm
Poor KB has to endure the rare 7-6 fielder's choice.

And now Blackmon puts the Rockies on the board, scoring on a hit from Cron.  3-1.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 14, 2022, 09:18:42 pm
Good exposure to a tough situation for Roberts.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 14, 2022, 09:24:25 pm
Good exposure to a tough situation for Roberts.

That frisbee slider is tough on righties but I wonder if he’ll struggle with lefty hitters long-term.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 14, 2022, 09:26:44 pm
Roberts (in only his third ML game) can't finish the inning and the Cubs are going to Keegan Thompson, clinging to a one-run lead with the bases loaded.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 14, 2022, 09:29:15 pm
Keegan induces a fly to left and the Cubs are out of the inning.  Let's get some insurance now.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 14, 2022, 09:31:46 pm
Francis!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 14, 2022, 09:39:20 pm
I wonder how much Colorado affected his slider. Getting Robert’s a cutter for lefties should be easy enough.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on April 14, 2022, 09:45:42 pm
Ironically, Cubs would've taken a K from Wisdom there.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 14, 2022, 10:07:59 pm
After the Schwin almost makes an amazing catch running into foul territory, Madrigal does it, running all the way over from second.  Now a fly to left from McMahon to end the inning and the Cubs are up 5-2 after seven.  Keegan has gotten the job done tonight.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 14, 2022, 10:37:50 pm
Mychal Givens is in to try to preserve the lead in the ninth.  Can't say I'm too happy about him requesting his old number 60 after the Cubs had initially assigned him a more normal one (54) as soon as he signed.  Maybe I'll forgive him if he can get three outs here.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 14, 2022, 10:43:47 pm
Bryant knocks a hit to right field but Givens gets out of it easily; Cubs win!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 14, 2022, 10:52:19 pm
Mychal Givens is in to try to preserve the lead in the ninth.  Can't say I'm too happy about him requesting his old number 60 after the Cubs had initially assigned him a more normal one (54) as soon as he signed.  Maybe I'll forgive him if he can get three outs here.

Just think of Givens' number choices as putting Spam on a perfectly good salad or french fries.  It may not sound great at first, but everything works out just fine by time it's all finished.

Cubs Win!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 14, 2022, 10:54:09 pm
I don't understand this analogy.  Spam on absolutely anything is **** awesome.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 14, 2022, 11:10:40 pm
I don't understand this analogy.  Spam on absolutely anything is **** awesome.

Compared to the revulsion of seeing a jersey number in the 60s, yes, eating spam is amazing.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 15, 2022, 12:22:00 am
https://youtu.be/fv3YTo8Ohio
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on April 15, 2022, 08:54:34 am
I don't understand this analogy.  Spam on absolutely anything is **** awesome.

But I don't understand why anyone would ruin perfectly good spam by combining it with a salad.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on April 15, 2022, 09:53:36 am
But I don't understand why anyone would ruin perfectly good spam by combining it with a salad.

I didn't understand it either until Tuffy introduced me to it, but that was one of my favorite meals in Japan a few years ago.  Spam adds just the right amount of highly processed unhealthiness to it. 

Sometimes you just need to expand your palette a little bit or else you miss out on some great things, like you introducing me to Morton's white castle sliders.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on April 15, 2022, 10:10:58 am
I think it all depends on how rancid the veggies are when you add the SPAM to the salad.  Yummy.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on April 15, 2022, 11:45:12 am
I'm losing my appetite.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on April 15, 2022, 11:48:36 am
I'm losing my appetite.
Gotta be a pun in there but I can't find it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dihard on April 15, 2022, 03:44:14 pm
Yeah I’ve heard nothing but great things about it.  Hopefully if I ever go I can avoid the whole getting mugged thing.
I live in Denver. The area around Coors (at least the areas where the bars and restaurants are) is quite safe, with dozens of great options for bars and restaurants. And the park is my (distant) second-fave to Wrigley.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on April 15, 2022, 03:58:24 pm
I didn't understand it either until Tuffy introduced me to it, but that was one of my favorite meals in Japan a few years ago.  Spam adds just the right amount of highly processed unhealthiness to it. 

Sometimes you just need to expand your palette a little bit or else you miss out on some great things, like you introducing me to Morton's white castle sliders.

They ARE closely on a par with each other.

When I was in Korea in the early 70s, spam was extremely popular, having been introduced by American GIs in the bases there.  But although I then spent three years in Japan, I never noticed that they shared the same fine taste in food.  After trying the Kimchi in Korea, I was not in an experimental mood.  Besides, all the restaurants in Misawa only served Chinese food.  Except for Katies, across the street, where they made the best katsudon in the world.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 15, 2022, 04:17:44 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 15, 2022, 04:32:52 pm
I walk by the pantry every morning to go outside and smoke a cigarette.  There’s a tin of Spam (with bacon) on the ledge and it always makes me feel good to see it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 15, 2022, 04:59:42 pm
I walk by the pantry every morning to go outside and smoke a cigarette.  There’s a tin of Spam (with bacon) on the ledge and it always makes me feel good to see it.
That's surprising since your city is so famous for its many fine eating establishments.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on April 15, 2022, 05:20:33 pm
That's surprising since your city is so famous for its many fine eating establishments.
Evidently, The Pantry is one of them.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on April 15, 2022, 09:09:29 pm
Complete meltdown by Stroman in the 4th inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 15, 2022, 10:06:49 pm
Frank the Tank is really slow.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 15, 2022, 10:37:54 pm
More cred for the nickname.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 15, 2022, 10:45:29 pm
I know that second one was borderline high, but how can you not swing the bat at those three pitches in that situation?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 15, 2022, 11:09:06 pm
Well, that sucked.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 15, 2022, 11:20:07 pm
Cubs with 5 runs on 13 hits and 6 walks and they left 18 men on base.  Nico Hoerner left the most men on base.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on April 15, 2022, 11:46:00 pm
No that’s impossible, the LOB stat is stupid.  If you as a batter left two men on base and the next fella got those two guys home, then your LOB should be zero, but I don’t think it’s scored that way, no it can’t be. Well, I see now, they have a Team LOB.  Today’s game was 12 men left on base not 18, still pretty stinking high.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 16, 2022, 04:06:56 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 16, 2022, 08:18:46 pm
Do you make Lieter wear this start or think hey it’s Coors and we can come back.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 16, 2022, 08:31:31 pm
I'm more interested in how he looks a little like David Arquette.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 16, 2022, 08:37:22 pm
Wear it is.

Mark is just happy to be here, he doesn’t care that he looks like a cross between David Arquette and Kevin Costener on the mound.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 16, 2022, 08:38:33 pm
I’m sure Chavez will come in and shut down the rally. Does the 2023 draft have any studs?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 16, 2022, 09:06:57 pm
Most interesting question may be whether the Cubs break the GIDP record this season (they're on-pace to shatter it).  They lead the league in groundball %, and they have a lineup full of slap hitters who don't K that much and only a couple guys with power.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 16, 2022, 09:21:51 pm
Perhaps rumors of Wisdom’s demise have been greatly exaggerated?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 16, 2022, 09:24:55 pm
Wisdom was super streaky last year.  He’d alnetnate between amazing and horrific.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 16, 2022, 11:15:01 pm
On the plus side, Villar definitely pumping up the trade value.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 17, 2022, 11:22:43 am
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on April 17, 2022, 11:27:03 am
On the plus side, Villar definitely pumping up the trade value.
So let's take him out of the line up!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on April 17, 2022, 03:13:13 pm
Perhaps rumors of Wisdom’s demise have been greatly exaggerated?
I love Wisdom, but I'll admit I was starting to lack faith.  Glad to see him have a couple of great days.  I notice it comes after Ross finally sat him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 17, 2022, 05:57:18 pm
Suzuki has homered in every major league park he’s played in.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 17, 2022, 06:08:36 pm
As is always the case, a lot of cheering Cubs fans at Coors Park

https://youtu.be/De95QbwCmaY
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 17, 2022, 06:15:59 pm
https://youtu.be/F7UOi-PdNVA
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 18, 2022, 02:17:32 am
Official scorer gives the W to Rowan Wick today, who pitched the 8th.

W could have gone to Givens but Wick had the cleaner inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 18, 2022, 03:10:23 pm
40°
wind out to right center 19 mph
37% chance of showers
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 18, 2022, 05:56:47 pm
The light rain is changing to light snow


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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 18, 2022, 06:07:15 pm
Ryan Herrera

Wander Franco was scratched from the Rays' lineup tonight against the Cubs due to right quad tightness.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on April 18, 2022, 06:10:28 pm
Villar must have pi$$ed somebody off.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 18, 2022, 06:48:52 pm
Villar must have pi$$ed somebody off.

Was just thinking that.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 18, 2022, 07:17:44 pm
Wisdom now has OPS of .830.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on April 18, 2022, 09:32:31 pm
David Robertson was a sneaky good pickup by the Cubs. Maybe the best of the non-Suzuki/Stroman offseason signings.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 18, 2022, 09:34:57 pm
Seiya's go-ahead run holds up as the Cubs win again.

If there's one good thing about the DH, it's that our bullpen is much less taxed as we can have three- and four-inning relief stints without having to pinch hit.  Our bench players aren't getting as many at-bats but we're probably saving the relief pitchers' arms by not having to use as many relief pitchers.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 18, 2022, 09:39:09 pm
Keegan Thompson really, really good tonight.

10 swing and misses on 39 pitches and got 11 outs, including a DP grounder relieving Hendricks with runners on 1B and 3B in the 5th. Then breezed through three full innings with only a IF single. Only hard hit ball off him was a groundout to 3B.

Also give Ross credit for keeping Thompson in game to pitch 8th inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 18, 2022, 09:50:39 pm
David Robertson was a sneaky good pickup by the Cubs. Maybe the best of the non-Suzuki/Stroman offseason signings.

He certainly looks convincing so far.

Obviously Ross likes the flexibility of having an effective long man in the pen.  But if Miley isn’t coming back anytime soon, you wonder when you have to give Thompson a look in the rotation. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 19, 2022, 12:13:15 am
https://youtu.be/64JB61yMnXQ
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 19, 2022, 03:09:15 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 19, 2022, 08:08:48 pm
Quite a relay throw by Madrigal.  Nick channeling his inner Javy.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 19, 2022, 08:14:21 pm
Yeah, basically a perfect catch-and-throw by Madrigal.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 19, 2022, 08:28:00 pm
Wisdom pinch hit for Heyward and stayed in game to play CF.

First time for Wisdom playing CF in majors. Played CF once in minors. Played some LF for Cubs last season.

Guessing just an unusual game situation, with Rays using a righty opener to start game and Heyward due to face a lefty reliever so early in game with a runner in scoring position.

Or, maybe Wisdom a consideration as a righty CF alternative if Hermosillo gets DFAed. I don’t know, but seems unlikely he’d actually play a lot of CF. Guessing a one-off.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 19, 2022, 08:45:25 pm
What does it say that Wisdom went to CF and Happ stayed in LF?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 19, 2022, 08:51:36 pm
What does it say that Wisdom went to CF and Happ stayed in LF?

Guessing that Cubs want to simplify things for Happ by just have him play LF. Maybe think moving him around impacted his offense.

Monday, left Happ in LF too when Heyward came out and burned last guy on bench by bringing in Ortega to play CF.

Today, probably was early to use Hermosillo. But, guessing Hermosillo pondering that at the moment.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 19, 2022, 09:31:34 pm
Wisdom misplays leadoff fly to open the 8th and ball falls in front of him for a single.

Probably asking too much to have him play much in CF.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 19, 2022, 11:22:12 pm
https://youtu.be/rr6RtaNfzvk
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 20, 2022, 11:40:28 am
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 20, 2022, 02:43:47 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 20, 2022, 03:29:43 pm
2 straight non-starts for our hottest hitter the past few days?

What’s with that? Do we like him as the “6th man”?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 20, 2022, 03:30:56 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 20, 2022, 03:51:48 pm
2 straight non-starts for our hottest hitter the past few days?

What’s with that? Do we like him as the “6th man”?

Put on Ross’ thinking cap.

Yesterday, Rays used an opener and switched from righty (the opener) to lefty. So, Wisdom got into the game in 4th inning and got 3 ABs.

Today, Rays using a righty starter who carves up righties (career .591 OPS vs. righties). So, get your lefties into the game as much as possible and so going with Villar.

Makes sense.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 20, 2022, 04:03:17 pm
2 straight non-starts for our hottest hitter the past few days?

What’s with that? Do we like him as the “6th man”?

Cubs are probably using him against good matchups and sitting him against bad ones.  Isn't Rassmussen a high velocity, up in the zone guy?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 20, 2022, 04:28:36 pm
Yes on Rasmussen heat but mostly works with cutters and sliders.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 20, 2022, 05:35:36 pm
Game starts right on time with almost empty stands.    Maybe the word didn't get out about the Cubs moving up the time.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 20, 2022, 05:42:44 pm
Rays up 4-0 and still batting in the top of the first.  As JD and Boog said, not a game to be behind with bad weather looming.  Taylor says it will get dicey around 5:00.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on April 20, 2022, 05:43:48 pm
Cubs already down 4-0. Hendricks needs to tell Stroman that contact pitchers are supposed to get quick outs and not throw 5 pitches to everyone.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 20, 2022, 07:22:40 pm
8-2 Rays going into the bottom of the fifth.  All the runs charged to Stroman.

C'mon rain
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 20, 2022, 07:34:12 pm
The good (?) news is that Marcus is going to be with us in 2024 now.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: DUSTY on April 20, 2022, 08:12:38 pm
I never understood all the fuss over signing him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 21, 2022, 03:10:50 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 21, 2022, 07:44:22 pm
After a wind-aided two-run homer from Vogelbach to pull the Pirates within a run, and two hits in a row, Frank the Tank starts a spiffy 3-6-3 double play to get Leiter and the Cubs out of the inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 21, 2022, 07:45:48 pm
And JD dropped a "Schwinnie" on The Tank.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 21, 2022, 08:02:59 pm
And JD dropped a "Schwinnie" on The Tank.

I only recently learned that supposedly Wisdom answers to "P-Wizzy".
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 21, 2022, 08:13:07 pm
Roberts is in to pitch the fifth, so Leiter will not be eligible for a win.

Hoy Park is batting for the Pirates.  He's Korean and his real name is Hyo, not Hoy.  I wonder if, after moving to America, people mispronounced it and he just went with it rather than correct them.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 21, 2022, 08:38:44 pm
Pirates get the lead off Roberts on a two-out bases-loaded double.

Crowe is dealing in relief for the Pirates, but we've got Seiya coming up.  Let's get these runs back.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 21, 2022, 08:41:00 pm
After the strikeout JD is asking if Suzuki had DH'd much in Japan, and at least with the Carp he wouldn't have, as pitchers bat in the Central League.

And Contreras has a two-out hit that eludes the right side of the Pirates' infield.  Maybe we can rally.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 21, 2022, 08:58:50 pm
Martin does a good job preventing the Pirates from tacking on -- three straight strikeouts with a runner moving to third.  Now would be a fine time for us to get some runs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 21, 2022, 09:14:10 pm
Reynolds gets a triple on a perfectly-placed soft liner over third that rolls into foul territory; with several Cubs chasing it, third base was undefended and he never slackened as he rounded second.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 21, 2022, 09:14:52 pm
The shift gives Reynolds a triple on a weakly hit ball to third.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 21, 2022, 09:19:01 pm
Villar initiates an inning-ending double play; Cubs are out of trouble.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on April 21, 2022, 09:27:42 pm
Exit Veloicty: 49.4 mph, distance 79 feet on Reynolds triple.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 21, 2022, 09:50:16 pm
Givens does a nice job in the eighth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 21, 2022, 10:15:38 pm
Heyward is hit by his own ground ball in foul territory, catching a break, but then strikes out on the next pitch.

Hard to believe the Pirates only lead by one; it feels like more.

Madrigal is the Cubs' last hope.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 21, 2022, 10:16:28 pm
Madrigal grounds to third and the Pirates win.

I wonder if the Cubs will be an over-.500 team again this season.  I hope so.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 21, 2022, 10:21:04 pm
Madrigal grounds to third and the Pirates win.

I wonder if the Cubs will be an over-.500 team again this season.  I hope so.

Honestly that doesn’t seem too likely.  Especially considering there’s likely going to be another selloff at the deadline, starting with Willson.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 21, 2022, 11:51:57 pm

....Hard to believe the Pirates only lead by one; it feels like more...


Cubs had 4 total bases for the game. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 22, 2022, 10:18:50 am
53°
89% chance of rain with no prediction of a letup into the evening
Wind out to left at 15 mph

MLB Network televises if the game is played
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on April 22, 2022, 10:37:29 am
From the radar map, it looks like the game might be delayed but they should be able to get it in.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 22, 2022, 10:56:50 am
Chicago Cubs  @Cubs  5m
The start of today’s Cubs-Pirates game at Wrigley Field has been shifted to 7:05 p.m. CT due to forecasted inclement weather throughout the morning and into the afternoon.

Gates will open at 5:35 p.m. CT.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 22, 2022, 05:21:29 pm
The DirecTV channel guide shows the MLB Network televising the game at the new time
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ-wpYtXwAI4YTc?format=jpg&name=900x900)


Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 22, 2022, 06:28:56 pm
A short delay before the games starts?

(https://radblast-aa.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/radar/WUNIDS_map?station=LOT&brand=wui&num=10&delay=60&type=NCR&frame=0&scale=0.999&noclutter=0&t=1621025493&showstorms=0&map.x=400&map.y=240&centerx=400&centery=240&transx=0&transy=0&showlabels=1&severe=1&rainsnow=1&lightning=1)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 22, 2022, 08:12:58 pm
Cub fan Hermosillo drives in two to tie it up, and we're headed for the bottom of the third. I hope Hermosillo sticks just because he supposedly grew up loving the team, like Rick Wilkins did.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 23, 2022, 09:51:00 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRCV04mXsAEwyyu?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 23, 2022, 10:47:49 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRChYrDXMAIi5Pq?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Post by: Playtwo on April 23, 2022, 10:57:19 am
Great pic, Bennett.  Where was that taken from?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 23, 2022, 11:51:29 am
Great pic, Bennett.  Where was that taken from?
Dunno.  I pulled it from a Paul Sullivan tweet.  Maybe Ron or someone who lives in Chicago might know.
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Post by: Ron on April 23, 2022, 12:14:12 pm
Dunno.  I pulled it from a Paul Sullivan tweet.  Maybe Ron or someone who lives in Chicago might know.

Looks like it was on the stretch of sidewalk abutting Lake Michigan between Diversey & Belmont, due east of where I live.  I've walked that area more times than I can count. There are often people fishing there. Beautiful views.
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Post by: Playtwo on April 23, 2022, 01:01:43 pm
That is a lovely view.  Makes me nostalgic.
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Post by: craig on April 23, 2022, 02:21:31 pm
Cubs are playing.  And leading, 9-0 in the 3rd!  Rivas back up, lined out then hit a 3-run homer in the 2nd inning.  That guy just might be a good hitter. 

Hoerner with a couple of hits, per the game log one of them was a line drive.  He's such a ground-ball guy, nice to have a contact not-on-the-ground.  Suzuki with a couple of singles, only out a rocket.  Twice through the lineup, Heyward is the only 0-2 guy on the day thus far.  Fun to get a bunch of hits.

Hendricks with a perfect game through 3, all on contact.   
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on April 23, 2022, 02:53:46 pm
 390-ft double for Suzuki to start the 5th.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on April 23, 2022, 03:08:51 pm
Not sure what the club record for hitting in RISP situations is but the Cubs are 11-20 through 5 innings today.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 23, 2022, 03:37:20 pm
Today is the kind of game you save on your DVR and rewatch during the winter months when you need a fix.
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Post by: Dave23 on April 23, 2022, 03:38:33 pm
Nico gets his 4th hit…last 2 have been 100+ EV liners over SS…
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Post by: Dave23 on April 23, 2022, 03:43:07 pm
Newcomb making his Cubs debut in the 8th…
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Post by: Dave23 on April 23, 2022, 03:44:32 pm
FB is an easy 95-96, slow curve 80ish
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on April 23, 2022, 03:58:04 pm
Anyone know the last time they scored 20? I recall the 26-run game in Colorado in '95.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on April 23, 2022, 04:05:02 pm
Cubs might've threatened that 26-run mark but good ole Heyward with his patented 4-6-3 took care of that.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on April 23, 2022, 04:10:45 pm
The largest shutout margin of victory in recent times was 22–0 when the Cleveland Indians defeated the New York Yankees on August 31, 2004.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: DUSTY on April 23, 2022, 04:11:17 pm
When will we finally rid ourselves of that dog ****?

Id rather have 50 year old Brant Brown.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on April 23, 2022, 04:12:58 pm
Cubs went from a negative run differential to the best in the division in one day.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 23, 2022, 04:50:04 pm
Interesting stat for a 21-0 game:
Time - 2:47
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on April 23, 2022, 05:04:56 pm
Cubs went from a negative run differential to the best in the division in one day.

Yeah, I was kind thinking about that, a game like this is perhaps why run-differential Pythagorean thoughts can be misleading. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 23, 2022, 05:17:32 pm
https://youtu.be/lUIdaF-0UUM
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 23, 2022, 08:02:12 pm
I still have Marquee on my DirecTV for some strange reason.

Any of you with DirecTV (and not in the Chicago area) still have 664 after today’s game?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on April 24, 2022, 12:30:39 am
Yeah, I was kind thinking about that, a game like this is perhaps why run-differential Pythagorean thoughts can be misleading. 

Wouldn’t be hard to exclude the statistical outliers and improve the underlying stat.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 24, 2022, 03:24:09 am
Exit Veloicty: 49.4 mph, distance 79 feet on Reynolds triple.

According to Statcast:

That's the softest-hit triple tracked by Statcast (since 2015).
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 24, 2022, 09:47:43 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRHeh56WUAA7jVI?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 24, 2022, 12:43:31 pm
Chicago Cubs  @Cubs  3m
The start of today's #Cubs-Pirates game is delayed due to rain.

We will provide an updated start time as information becomes available.



Boog is off to his ESPN radio Sunday night job so who will JD's partner be today?    Unlike football, Beth Mowins does an adequate job filling in.  Or will it be Cameron Maybin?  I did not catch all of his lengthy stint on the Saturday broadcast but he sounded like a possibility.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 24, 2022, 12:46:11 pm
Looks like a fairly short delay.

(https://radblast-aa.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/radar/WUNIDS_map?station=LOT&brand=wui&num=10&delay=60&type=NCR&frame=0&scale=0.999&noclutter=0&t=1621025493&showstorms=0&map.x=400&map.y=240&centerx=400&centery=240&transx=0&transy=0&showlabels=1&severe=1&rainsnow=1&lightning=1)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 24, 2022, 01:02:15 pm
Play-by-play announcer is Pat Hughes.  He says the delay will be an hour or an hour and a half.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 24, 2022, 01:33:44 pm
Start time now set for 2:15 CDT.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on April 24, 2022, 03:37:20 pm
Villar has got to stay at DH
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on April 24, 2022, 06:17:04 pm
Bummer of a loss today. Bednar's FB was just *filthy* at the end.

We're going to get a good haul for David Robertson at the deadline. Such a reliable bullpen arm.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 24, 2022, 06:44:17 pm
Here’s hoping he stays healthy.  Givens could bring back a decent prospect too.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 24, 2022, 06:57:21 pm
https://youtu.be/qTu626HjmhU
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on April 24, 2022, 08:11:02 pm
Jesse Rogers @JesseRogersESPN
Quite the series for the Cubs. They drop 3 of 4 at home to the Pirates but still outscore them by 17.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: wmljohn on April 25, 2022, 07:34:29 am
MLB.Com standings has the Cubs in 4th place with a 7-9 record.  Their next game is October 5 @ Cin. 

Thank god it's almost over.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 25, 2022, 07:27:11 pm
I’m not sure what’s going on, but Marquee is still playing on my DirecTV.

I’m watching Maddux vs. Hershiser with Harry and Steve, and all is well within my soul.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 25, 2022, 07:28:39 pm
Oscar and Gertrude Smith from Las Cruces, NM are in attendance today as well…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 25, 2022, 07:36:02 pm
You younger guys here should be watching this…just seeing how different Wrigley was is amazing…
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Post by: Tuffy on April 25, 2022, 07:42:49 pm
What year is this Maddux-Hershiser game you're watching?  The 1989 team was such fun to watch.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 25, 2022, 08:09:10 pm
It’s April ‘89…

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN198904270.shtml
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 25, 2022, 09:02:56 pm
And it’s over…
In a cool 1:55…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 26, 2022, 05:45:00 am
And Maddux scored the game's only run!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 26, 2022, 02:30:30 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRSuZhjXwAQHmH1?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on April 26, 2022, 02:36:42 pm
Demand for Cubs tickets in Atlanta is really down. I think this is the lowest I've ever seen tickets listed on StubHub. Even during the previous rebuild, I think they cost more. And that was before the move out of Turner Field.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on April 26, 2022, 02:38:35 pm
Tonight is Greg Maddux bobblehead night, by the way. Just in case anyone is in the area.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 26, 2022, 05:54:53 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRTezs6VIAEX3F1?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ben on April 26, 2022, 08:15:49 pm
Dave, I've had DirecTV for 25 or so years (primarily for NFL games) and I just checked 664 (Marquee Network), thanks to your mention.

I dialed up 664 and it looks like one needs to buy an extra something of some sort to get 664. 

So, I called DirecTV and after 25 minutes and multiple reps (after the robo guy to get to an agent, then being put on a lengthy hold again) I threw in the towel.  I have no idea what I might have to do to get 664.

Of course, I'm more interested in our farm teams than our MLB team this season, so it doesn't much matter.  By the way, AT&T really sucks!!

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: DUSTY on April 26, 2022, 09:08:30 pm
Cubs lost 3-1.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 26, 2022, 09:31:15 pm
Ben, it’s part of the Sports pack…I think it’s an additional $10/month or so…it gets you all the regional sports networks in the 600s instead of just your local ones…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on April 26, 2022, 09:32:02 pm
DirecTV customer service is a total shitshow. See if you can upgrade on the app or their website.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on April 26, 2022, 10:12:23 pm
There has been a lot written about how the ball isn't travelling as far/fast as it has in the past. That was pretty apparent in person tonight. Those balls hit by Hoerner and (especially) Suzuki in the 8th looked like certain doubles off the bat, at least from where I was sitting above third base. They certainly didn't look like anything Adam Duvall could run down without that much extra effort. I don't really blame Hermosillo for reading that incorrectly.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 26, 2022, 10:52:21 pm
https://youtu.be/JZ7a2IU2wrs
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 27, 2022, 02:31:01 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 27, 2022, 04:59:13 pm
Poor Rivas...
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on April 27, 2022, 07:23:13 pm
10 pitch AB for Seiya resulting in an RBI double...against a longtime, battle-tested MLB veteran pitcher.

Suzuki is good.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on April 27, 2022, 09:36:56 pm
Givens isn't very good.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 27, 2022, 10:02:48 pm
Robertson is somewhat good.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 27, 2022, 10:10:45 pm
P-WIZZY!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on April 27, 2022, 10:28:48 pm
Nice 1-2-3 10th for Wick.  Would be nice if he could settle in and be good. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 27, 2022, 10:29:15 pm
Cubs win, with five of the last six outs from our bullpen being strikeouts.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 27, 2022, 10:48:56 pm
A minor point but kind of interesting that Ross used Gomes instead of Hermosillo to pinch hit for Heyward in 10th, even though Hermosillo was going to come in defensively for Heyward bottom of the inning.

With Madrigal and Hoerner to follow, guessing that Ross emphasizing getting extra-base hit there from his pinch hitter. And he had a full bench.

With the DH and not having to save bench to hit for the pitcher, seeing a lot more pure baseball decision-making where Ross trying to get best matchup late instead of routinely pinch hitting for the pitcher. And, because don’t have to save the bench for the pitcher, Ross pinch hitting for Heyward against lefty quite a bit.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 27, 2022, 10:53:56 pm
Nice 1-2-3 10th for Wick.  Would be nice if he could settle in and be good. 

He’s been quite good after his first couple of appearances.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 27, 2022, 10:59:03 pm
Reb, that's one of the things I grudgingly like about the DH: much more interesting decisions on which bench players come into the game and when.  Same with the bullpen, where we can now have 4-inning relief stints, something that almost never happened in the last 20 years when pitchers were batting.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 27, 2022, 11:09:09 pm
Reb, that's one of the things I grudgingly like about the DH: much more interesting decisions on which bench players come into the game and when.  Same with the bullpen, where we can now have 4-inning relief stints, something that almost never happened in the last 20 years when pitchers were batting.

Related to that also is, of course, how the DH itself is used, aside from the in-game maneuvering.

DH creates another “position” to fill. Roster decisions are fun to follow.

As noted recently, Cubs DH performance has been terrible (as has performance of pinch hitters). Probably mostly a short sample size anomaly, but time to get more from hitters getting to hit instead of pitchers hitting.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 27, 2022, 11:24:52 pm
https://youtu.be/K39EjOsfheE
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on April 28, 2022, 12:04:07 am
So what happened on that play where Hoerner hesitated around second and was thrown out at third?  With 2 outs, what was there for him to think about?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 28, 2022, 01:21:26 am
So what happened on that play where Hoerner hesitated around second and was thrown out at third?  With 2 outs, what was there for him to think about?

That’s a good question because couldn’t tell from the broadcast what 3B coach was doing and when.

So, Hoerner was on 1B when Suzuki singled to center. Even with 2 outs, Hoerner has to decide whether or not to advance to 3B. He can’t just try for 3B irrespective of where the ball is.

Apparently, Hoerner lost sight of the batted ball. Also seems like he didn’t promptly look at the 3B coach for guidance on whether to proceed to 3B either.

Guessing that 3B coach probably was signaling GO from the get-go but, because of Hoerner’s hesitation, that signal had to be changed once Hoerner hesitated. Whether it was changed or not, seems like Hoerner got confused. So, first he lost sight of the ball and then he got confused.

Bad baserunning all around. Think it’s the second time in recent games that a runner (think maybe Ortega) failed to look at the 3B coach and made a poor decision at 2B.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on April 28, 2022, 08:02:08 am
Reb, that's one of the things I grudgingly like about the DH: much more interesting decisions on which bench players come into the game and when.  Same with the bullpen, where we can now have 4-inning relief stints, something that almost never happened in the last 20 years when pitchers were batting.

Agree.  I like it.  I love not having to save guys for pitcher-pinch-hitting.  In reb's example, with a 3-run lead in the 10th, no need to save Gomes for a potential 14th inning; just go with the better hitter in the 10th.  I love allowance for ≥3-inning relief use.  And while the Cubs have a lot of very limited-threat batters anyway, still they aren't total auto-outs.  So I don't have that same sense of "hard-to-score-with-three-outs, so it'-really-hard-to-score-this-inning-with-only-two-outs-to-work-with."   

DH, thumbs up!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on April 28, 2022, 08:12:13 am
Agree.  There are a limited scope of plays where a baserunner needs to really depend on the coach because he's got no sense of where the ball is.  Going into second with a ball to RF is one of those.  Hoerner should have been totally going with the coach on that one.  Instead, he pulled up to look around and to personally reassess.  Really dumb. 

With the jump off of 1st, he probably realized it was shallow right and the RF was going to be charging straight in with momentum for a throw.  So maybe he was hesitant to trust he'd make it.  But yeah, given that the RF wasn't shallow to start, you'd have thought he'd already assume that if he runs hard on contact, his default should assume 1st-to-3rd.  There isn't ANY hit to RF where he'd not default to expecting to go to 3rd.  The default is "go" until/unless he's approaching 2nd and the coach is urgently flashing "stop". 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on April 28, 2022, 08:17:30 am
I was looking for another angle.  I'm wondering if middle infielders deeked him at second.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on April 28, 2022, 09:11:17 am
Once he hesitated, it was a bad mistake by Hoerner to risk trying to go to third with 2 outs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on April 28, 2022, 10:02:55 am
It wasn't just a bad mistake, it was a stupid decision. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 28, 2022, 02:34:21 pm
MLB Network in some areas

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRdGCETXMAAx5Nl?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: wmljohn on April 29, 2022, 09:41:13 am
Ben, it’s part of the Sports pack…I think it’s an additional $10/month or so…it gets you all the regional sports networks in the 600s instead of just your local ones…

I have that and 664 was never a part of it because you had to be in the Chicago market to make it a part of it. I hope that has changed.  I do not have the MLB package so I am sure the games will be blacked out if they are on it, but it would be nice to see the other stuff.  I will have to check later.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: wmljohn on April 29, 2022, 09:44:50 am
OMG.  Sure enough it is on right now showing a replay of Cubs/Braves game.  That is awesome that they have made it available to the rest of the country in the sports pack.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 29, 2022, 09:53:15 am
OMG.  Sure enough it is on right now showing a replay of Cubs/Braves game.  That is awesome that they have made it available to the rest of the country in the sports pack.
Not for me.  I can only access 664 while the Cubs are on one of the Extra Inning channels.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: wmljohn on April 29, 2022, 11:30:48 am
Not for me.  I can only access 664 while the Cubs are on one of the Extra Inning channels.

Do you pay for the extra for the regional sports package?  If you are not subscribed to that additional package it may be why.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 29, 2022, 11:55:57 am
Do you pay for the extra for the regional sports package?  If you are not subscribed to that additional package it may be why.
I do not have the regional sports package.  If you go that way, do you then get to also watch each team's own network rather than paying for Extra Innings?

What is great about MLB Extra Innings giving access to Marquee is it allows me to automatically schedule all Cubs games to be recorded on 664 (and extend the length of recording time) rather than have to keep looking for what Extra Innings channel each game is on.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: wmljohn on April 29, 2022, 12:48:29 pm
I do not have the regional sports package.  If you go that way, do you then get to also watch each team's own network rather than paying for Extra Innings?

What is great about MLB Extra Innings giving access to Marquee is it allows me to automatically schedule all Cubs games to be recorded on 664 (and extend the length of recording time) rather than have to keep looking for what Extra Innings channel each game is on.

No,  If you do not have the MLB Extra Innings they will be blacked out.  You will get replays I assume because when I checked to see if I could get 664 they were replaying yesterday's game.  I have it on the TV right now so I am sure when the Cubs game comes on it will blackout because I do not have Extra Innings package.  I watch on mlb.tv app because I get that free from T-Mobile.

Unless if you live in that area.  I get the Orioles and Nats game on the regional channels because I am in their broadcast area.  MASN
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 29, 2022, 02:42:24 pm
No,  If you do not have the MLB Extra Innings they will be blacked out.  You will get replays I assume because when I checked to see if I could get 664 they were replaying yesterday's game.  I have it on the TV right now so I am sure when the Cubs game comes on it will blackout because I do not have Extra Innings package.  I watch on mlb.tv app because I get that free from T-Mobile.

Unless if you live in that area.  I get the Orioles and Nats game on the regional channels because I am in their broadcast area.  MASN
During one of the Pittsburgh series games I received the error message saying I was trying to watch a channel I was not subscribed to on both 664 and the Extra Innings channel so I called DirecTV technical support (800-537-4388).  They admitted to having difficulties and did something that solved the problem.

I'm guessing those of you who are now getting Marquee (664) for "free" will soon have it go away.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: wmljohn on April 29, 2022, 03:17:30 pm
Holy crap. I have the Cubs game live in VA on Marquee and I don’t have the mlb package. Me thinks this won’t last long. :(. Somebody fvcked up. :)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 29, 2022, 03:35:12 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRicZptX0AAm8w7?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on April 29, 2022, 06:18:55 pm
This is second game in a row that Ross has started Villar and Rivas at 2B/1B against a righty starter instead of Madrigal/Schwindel.

Interesting.

Probably just mixing things up for short-term.

Villar is scary defensively at 3B and seems more adequate defensively playing 2B.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on April 29, 2022, 07:32:01 pm
I've been most impressed with his defense at DH.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on April 29, 2022, 11:35:14 pm
Here are the Contreras brothers trading lineups before Thursday night's game:

https://twitter.com/WatchMarquee/status/1519820659643146240
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dihard on April 30, 2022, 11:50:16 am
I love that! Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on April 30, 2022, 02:33:25 pm
As JD said Friday night, note the one hour earlier game time

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRnXrynXMAAPGLK?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on April 30, 2022, 08:41:33 pm
Locke St. John (wearing number 45) makes his Cubs debut with the team down 6-1 and takes something off a pitch to get his first Cubs strikeout.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: method on April 30, 2022, 08:53:18 pm
Can we swap Mardigal and Hoerner in the line up.

Madrigal down to 203/266/254
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on April 30, 2022, 08:56:09 pm
Can Madrigal be sent down?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: method on April 30, 2022, 09:27:42 pm
He should have an option left. Sox promoted him aggressively.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on April 30, 2022, 10:30:26 pm
Can Madrigal be sent down?

Still pretty hard to believe that was all they could get for Kimbrel.  Wow.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on April 30, 2022, 11:58:12 pm
Still pretty hard to believe that was all they could get for Kimbrel.  Wow.

Sox scouting director said he was the best player in the 2018 draft.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 01, 2022, 12:54:49 am
Uh-huh.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on May 01, 2022, 08:37:12 am
Did the White Sox do better when they flipped him?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 01, 2022, 09:25:59 am
Did the White Sox do better when they flipped him?

The Cubs flipped him at the deadline to a contender, with an additional year of team control, at a time when he was statistically the best closer in baseball.  You don’t think they should have gotten more than the Sox got?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 01, 2022, 10:25:17 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRroxIkXMAELoZb?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: method on May 01, 2022, 11:50:53 am
Madrigal was a giant mistake. For both the Chicago teams. He’s nothing like the scouting reports we were fed. His defense is mediocre. He has less the. Zero power. He is not a smart base runner.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 01, 2022, 11:59:29 am
I see Ross has figured out how to keep Milwaukee pitchers from hitting Contreras.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: method on May 01, 2022, 12:31:36 pm
At least madrigal is at 9.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 01, 2022, 01:54:12 pm
No score after three.

The Cubs are still looking for their first baserunner.   Burnes has five Ks.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 01, 2022, 05:12:29 pm
https://youtu.be/qGeWfU4oRWs
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 01, 2022, 05:24:30 pm
So what’s everyone’s favorite memory of the Locke St. John era?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 01, 2022, 08:46:12 pm
Madrigal has been unimpressive so far.

But, WAY early to make any determination about his value.

You’ll just have to wait on that and put up with the suspense.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 03, 2022, 09:19:31 am
Spring has not yet sprung in Chicago.  The forecast for Tuesday evening is not very conducive for baseball:
44°
69% chance of light rain
Wind in from left-center at 20 mph

Both the Cubs and the White Sox have off days on Thursday but  the prediction for then isn’t much better.  I’m guessing they will try to play tonight.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 03, 2022, 03:06:05 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FR29RqXWYAEop8a?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 03, 2022, 03:46:52 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FR3HR89WUAIBeFB?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 03, 2022, 03:50:01 pm
Looks like a possible delay and then clearing

(https://s.w-x.co/staticmaps/wu/wxtype/none/usa/animate.png)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 03, 2022, 06:42:59 pm
Effross is making his first-ever major league start and supposedly Smyly is on the bereavement list.

From what I am seeing (on Baseball Reference), Effross has never pitched more than 2 innings in a major league game, and has only made five starts in the minors.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 03, 2022, 07:24:20 pm
Effross cannot get through the second inning and once again Keegan Thompson is on for early-middle-inning relief, something we seem to be asking him to do a lot this year.

And Tim Anderson starts the third inning with a home run to right field that only went 355 feet; did it land in the basket?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 04, 2022, 12:18:45 am
The Cubs have scored a grand total of five runs in the last five games.  Its hard to be optimistic about the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: DUSTY on May 04, 2022, 07:48:20 am
I expected this.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 04, 2022, 01:02:32 pm
Cubs have scored in 69 games in a row.

That’s longest current no-shutouts streak in the majors.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 04, 2022, 03:24:47 pm
43°  Clear

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FR8HEDRWYAMh9q0?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 04, 2022, 05:51:50 pm
Gotta get Jason going.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on May 04, 2022, 07:33:46 pm
Nice to see Hoerner drill one 400+. Probably doesn't mean anything in the long run, but hard contact is going to be key to his days as a starter.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 04, 2022, 07:59:46 pm
He ripped another one to LF in the 4th, but it was caught just shy of the track.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 04, 2022, 09:54:09 pm
White Sox win.  It's too bad the wind knocked Contreras' drive down.

Also Robertson had another good outing.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 04, 2022, 11:12:19 pm
https://youtu.be/gadBJwVh05c
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 06, 2022, 09:30:11 am
Today’s Cubs-Dodgers game at Wrigley Field has been postponed due to inclement weather.

The makeup game is scheduled for tomorrow, May 7, at 6:40 p.m. CDT, as the second game of a split doubleheader. The originally scheduled game has been shifted to start at 12:05 p.m.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 06, 2022, 01:17:01 pm
Jordan Bastain

Saturday's probable starters will be Drew Smyly (Game 1) and Daniel Norris (Game 2).

Smyly will be returning from MLB's bereavement list. It'll be Norris first start since Aug. 2, 2020, with the Tigers.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 07, 2022, 09:09:03 am
Umpires for #Dodgers (16-7) at #Cubs (9-15):
Chad Fairchild, Alex MacKay, Laz Diaz, Stu Scheurwater
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 07, 2022, 09:17:17 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSKUQYeXwAIJYjU?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 07, 2022, 11:03:55 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSKtKBgVUAA4b0q?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 07, 2022, 03:34:25 pm
Game 2

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSLn3H_X0AENh7r?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 07, 2022, 08:36:25 pm
Man - how bad is your roster when Hermosillo starts both halves of a doubleheader?

4 guys in the game 2 lineup with OPS under .600.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ben on May 07, 2022, 08:48:52 pm
It is really pathetic that Cubs field that lineup!

Following some of the young Cubs is more fun than following the MLB Cubs!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 07, 2022, 09:09:42 pm
What's the plan here, I wonder.  The major league roster is basically a write-off - Suzuki is the only one that looks like he has a decent chance to be part of a contending team eventually - Hoerner and Madrigal are lottery tickets. and Stroman is getting flipped next summer.  The farm system has promise but it still basically middle of the pack, and most of our best prospects are 18-20 years old in a sport where guys typically peak at 27-29.  Even if you buy that a bunch of these zygotes pan out, it's going to be a long time before they're impact players in the majors.  So how exactly are the Cubs planning on not sucking pretty hard for the next several years?  A spending binge by Ricketts?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 07, 2022, 10:42:38 pm
The doubleheader loss to the Dodgers on Saturday puts the Cubs at 9-17 (.346).  That projects to 56-106.

Thank goodness for the Cincinnati Reds.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 07, 2022, 10:47:11 pm
The doubleheader loss to the Dodgers on Saturday puts the Cubs at 9-17 (.346).  That projects to 56-106.

Thank goodness for the Cincinnati Reds.

The lottery comes in at a good time for us, probably.  I don’t think even we can catch the Reds, but we’ll still have a shot at the #1 pick.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on May 07, 2022, 10:51:14 pm
The Reds have played 17 of 27 on the road so maybe.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 08, 2022, 02:57:11 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSQp9ODXwAECfTp?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 08, 2022, 08:38:42 pm
Pretty sobering to watch this roster go up against a team like the Dodgers.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 08, 2022, 08:43:58 pm
Pretty sobering to watch this roster go up against a team like the Dodgers.
It helps to drink until you're no longer sober.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 09, 2022, 04:47:30 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSWLtkYVIAAwjdN?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 09, 2022, 05:43:34 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSWbcxZXMAABOuw?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 09, 2022, 06:21:42 pm
Hermosillo not starting in CF against a lefty.

Wonder what’s up with that?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 09, 2022, 07:16:04 pm
Meghan Montemurro

Wade Miley will start for the #Cubs tomorrow vs. the Padres, Ross says.

Wednesday’s starter is still TBD.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on May 09, 2022, 07:18:26 pm
In an unrelated story, Wade Miley has been placed on suicide watch.  His belt and shoelaces have been confiscated.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on May 09, 2022, 08:49:36 pm
Suzuki's a real Cub now.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 09, 2022, 08:56:48 pm
Missed his double…did he hit a Gore FB, or something not as fast?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 09, 2022, 09:06:46 pm
It was 83, probably a change-up, inside corner that Suzuki was able to pull to left field corner.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on May 09, 2022, 11:23:14 pm
Hendricks with a 3-hit shutout through 8, 99 pitches.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on May 09, 2022, 11:47:53 pm
And Hendricks is removed with two out and one on in the 9th up 6-0.

Ross manages like Maddon.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ben on May 09, 2022, 11:48:29 pm
Kyle ended up at 116 pitches over 8.2....I'm sure he wanted the complete game shutout, but hope that doesn't foul him up in his next and future starts!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 10, 2022, 12:01:47 am
Cubs played a really good game tonight.

Hendricks was outstanding, good ABs by and large, good defense, good baserunning——even Suzuki’s caught stealing in 1st inning was the kind of aggressive play that a club in a losing streak might want to try early.

A good example of the opposite of lackluster: tonight’s game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 10, 2022, 12:28:34 am
Kyle ended up at 116 pitches over 8.2....I'm sure he wanted the complete game shutout, but hope that doesn't foul him up in his next and future starts!

116 pitches is hardly abusive.  I wouldn't want him getting there every time out but once in a while, in a low-stress game, it seems like no big deal.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 10, 2022, 01:30:29 am
For those who were not able to stay up late

https://youtu.be/s4HAIsPTqp4
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 10, 2022, 05:24:58 am
Ross took Hendricks out with two outs in the ninth inning, a six-run lead, and one baserunner!?

I hope Hendricks spoke his mind as he came out. Maddon used to do this to him, too.  He deserves better.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 10, 2022, 08:36:40 am
Ross took Hendricks out with two outs in the ninth inning, a six-run lead, and one baserunner!?

I hope Hendricks spoke his mind as he came out. Maddon used to do this to him, too.  He deserves better.
What the replay does not show is Hendricks throwing something like seven balls in eight pitches that were nowhere near the plate.  He did not leave the mound for a few seconds after Ross came out.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 10, 2022, 03:08:58 pm
Ross took Hendricks out with two outs in the ninth inning, a six-run lead, and one baserunner!?

I hope Hendricks spoke his mind as he came out. Maddon used to do this to him, too.  He deserves better.

If Sutcliffe was a good lip reader, all Hendricks said was, "what a stupid walk".  I doubt that Hendricks was much bothered by being taking out at that point.  He had already thrown almost 30 more pitches than his highest this year, and Ross gave him more than enough opportunity to finish the game.  According to sutcliffe, Hendricks was really struggling with the last two hitters.  Seems foolish to push your luck too far.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 10, 2022, 05:12:34 pm
MLB Network in some areas

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSbdltUXMAUHyZE?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 10, 2022, 09:42:33 pm
Thanks for the details about Hendricks, Bennett and Dave.  I wish he could have finished, but I can see why Ross lifted him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 10, 2022, 11:52:50 pm
Teaser rally comes up short and the Padres win by a run, with the Cubs leaving the bases loaded in the ninth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 10, 2022, 11:55:43 pm
Somewhere Harry is saying, "One more biscuit for breakfast."
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on May 10, 2022, 11:56:10 pm
Schwindel would've hit a grand slam with last year's ball.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dihard on May 10, 2022, 11:59:11 pm
Somewhere Harry is saying, "One more biscuit for breakfast."
I was thinking that too!

I really thought he had it. As did the Padres tv guys.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 11, 2022, 12:24:59 am
All five Padres runs were scored after two outs and nobody on base.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 11, 2022, 12:54:46 am
https://youtu.be/demGq-fLnQc
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 11, 2022, 09:00:06 am
The Cubs/Dodgers series ended on getaway day with a Sunday night game.  Both teams had to travel to night games the following day.  The Cubs to San Diego and the Dodgers to Pittsburgh.

The Cubs/Padres series ends today with both teams having Thursday off.   The Cubs have to travel all the way to Phoenix for a series with the Diamondbacks that starts Friday night.

Of course, Wednesday is an afternoon game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on May 11, 2022, 09:46:00 am
I feel for Frank.  Gotta be frustrating to get that much wood on the ball in that situation and wind up making the final out of the game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 11, 2022, 09:51:41 am
I feel for Frank.  Gotta be frustrating to get that much wood on the ball in that situation and wind up making the final out of the game.
The home run Alfonso Rivas hit in the third was just as close only it bounced off the fielders glove and went over the fence.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 11, 2022, 12:06:37 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSffqLyXIAUr9wR?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 11, 2022, 06:41:02 pm
(http://mlb.mlb.com/assets/images/7/1/4/201585714/091516_cubs_flag_med_3_fqqoz3ho.gif)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 11, 2022, 06:52:02 pm
Please sit Wick for a couple of days now.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 11, 2022, 06:59:00 pm
Looks like Schwindel had a decent game.  Good that he doesn't dwell on the shortfall at the wall last night.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 11, 2022, 08:58:32 pm
https://youtu.be/U8BjSnsTafs
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 13, 2022, 08:33:46 am
If you want to watch the Friday night game in Arizona, your only option is Apple TV.  You do not need an Apple device.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210627

I’d prefer to see the game sitting in my recliner in front of my large flat screen TV instead of my computer but haven’t had any luck setting it up.  Apparently my older LG TV isn’t smart enough.  You might have better luck.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209440

One more note:
You must sign up for a free seven day trial.  If not canceled in time it will cost you $4.99 per month.

The Cubs/Cardinals game on June 24 is also an Apple TV game.  You might prefer to save your free trial for then instead of watching the Diamondbacks.

The Apple TV announcers for games on the west coast are Stephen Nelson (play-by-play), Hunter Pence (analyst), Katie Nolan (analyst), and Heidi Watney (reporter).
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 13, 2022, 08:56:43 am
So it seems if you have an Apple ID you can watch the game for free using the AppleTV app…I’m assuming that means anyone with an iPhone or iPad is covered.

I’ll be watching the Grizz anyway…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: method on May 13, 2022, 09:11:42 am
So it seems if you have an Apple ID you can watch the game for free using the AppleTV app…I’m assuming that means anyone with an iPhone or iPad is covered.

I’ll be watching the Grizz anyway…

As long as you have an Apple ID, you can download the apple tv app and watch the game for free.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 13, 2022, 09:57:54 am
You can sign up for the free seven day trial on any device.  Doesn't have to be an Apple product.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 13, 2022, 05:09:56 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSq6F7QWYAApFDs?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 13, 2022, 07:17:07 pm
Tonight's game is on the MLB.tv schedule as being available only on Apple TV

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSqkwgZVEAA0_i_?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 13, 2022, 09:00:45 pm
No score after one.

I'd rather listen to Joe Carter and Chip Caray than these Apple announcers.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 13, 2022, 09:21:54 pm
Love the visual appeal of the broadcast, though
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 13, 2022, 09:31:40 pm
Cubs score three in the top of the third.  Heyward led off with double off the wall in deep left center, his third extra base hit of the season.

In the lower left corner of the screen is "reach base probability" tht changes with each pitch.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 13, 2022, 09:37:30 pm
Can we get Simmons on a plane to Arizona?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 13, 2022, 09:41:17 pm
D'Backs score three in the bottom of the third to tie it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 13, 2022, 10:06:35 pm
Arizona scores a run in the bottom of the fourth on a wild pitch that Contreras probably should have blocked.  Cubs defense has been pretty shaky all around.

4-3.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 13, 2022, 10:59:15 pm
Can we get Simmons on a plane to Arizona?

His .100 BA at AAA will fit right in with this lineup.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 13, 2022, 11:13:09 pm
Cubs load the bases with two outs in the top of the 8th but don't score.

Stlll 4-3 Arizona
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 13, 2022, 11:41:27 pm
Cubs go down meekly in the ninth.

I'll give Apple TV a passing grade but not by a whole lot.  Three in the booth plus a roving reporter doesn't work.  One thing I really liked was that there was no distracting ticker across the bottom of the screen.  Cliff (they kept calling him Cliffy) Floyd added next to nothing to the telecast.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 14, 2022, 12:24:50 am
Can we get Simmons on a plane to Arizona?

Seemed like Vargas and Villar were unaware they are permitted to catch shallow flyballs beyond the infield dirt. Not a Wisdom strength either.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 14, 2022, 01:26:43 am
The audio is a mix of Apple TV, Diamondbacks radio, and Cubs radio

https://youtu.be/8ot_Op_JQtc
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 14, 2022, 03:52:34 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSvs-kxWAAIIQlA?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 15, 2022, 12:08:56 am
https://youtu.be/Wu9Mtbr4z_k
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dihard on May 15, 2022, 01:50:37 am
Maybe you all already knew this, but I haven’t paid much attention to the Diamondbacks in the last few years. Their catcher is the son of former Cub Gary Varsho.

“He is the son of former MLB outfielder, manager, and coach Gary Varsho,and is named after Darren Daulton, his father's former teammate.”
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 15, 2022, 12:01:07 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FS0GBGMXEAIrhwm?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on May 15, 2022, 05:29:36 pm
10 K's and 3 hits allowed for Steele.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on May 15, 2022, 05:34:42 pm
https://twitter.com/CubsZone/status/1525963738855182345
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on May 15, 2022, 05:40:27 pm
https://twitter.com/CubsZone/status/1525963738855182345

It's probably just me, but Justin Steele reminds me a bit of Jon Lester (physically).
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 15, 2022, 06:01:07 pm
Does Rossy go to Wick to close it after he threw 29 pitches yesterday and 33 three days ago?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 15, 2022, 06:46:40 pm
Supposedly Wisdom's nickname is "P-Wizzy", and "Schwindel" means "dizziness" in German, so it was Wizzy and Dizzy combining to get the winning run in today!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 15, 2022, 07:04:18 pm
https://youtu.be/OrVrEfnqClU
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 15, 2022, 07:54:48 pm
I predict Wick or Robertson to Boston within the next month.  I hope it's not Wick.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 15, 2022, 08:28:14 pm
I predict Wick or Robertson to Boston within the next month.  I hope it's not Wick.

Why trade Wick?  He’s got three more seasons of team control.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 15, 2022, 08:45:26 pm
Does Boston need a closer?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on May 15, 2022, 09:24:18 pm
Did he get lit up?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 15, 2022, 10:14:17 pm
Does Boston need a closer?
According to the "experts" they do.
Why trade Wick?  He’s got three more seasons of team control.
Because you have to trade what the other team will take if you want something good.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 15, 2022, 10:27:29 pm
But if you’re trading guys you’re going to need when - theoretically - the team contends again, what’s the point?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 16, 2022, 09:29:31 am
Like Contreras?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 16, 2022, 03:05:04 pm
65°
Clear
Light winds


Quite a bit of ivy

Simmons at SS

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FS54drcWAAAA3NB?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 16, 2022, 04:43:56 pm
Like Contreras?

Contreras is a FA after this season so that's a totally different situation.  As a catcher he's also very likely to decline significantly in the next 3-4 seasons.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 16, 2022, 04:47:04 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FS6NTxxWAAICFuf?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 16, 2022, 07:09:06 pm
A Contreras slam puts the Cubs up 8-0 and they are still batting in the bottom of the first.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 16, 2022, 07:11:14 pm
Six runs have scored after the second out.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 16, 2022, 07:20:00 pm
Six up, six down for Miley on just 21 pitches
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 16, 2022, 07:20:27 pm
This has me concerned.  Now the Cubs won't score another run until Friday, at the earliest.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 16, 2022, 07:23:37 pm
Pink Hat Guy makes his first appearance of the season
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 16, 2022, 07:40:03 pm
Tell me if I offered you “Simmons will have a 1.000 OPS on May 16” on the day of the signing you wouldn’t have taken that, sight unseen.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 16, 2022, 07:41:19 pm
9 up, 9 down for the Pittsburghers.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 16, 2022, 07:43:00 pm
Six up, six down for Miley on just 21 pitches

He’s one of our most valuable flips, potentially.  Vital he stays healthy and has a decent couple of months.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 16, 2022, 07:50:13 pm
Pittsburgh doesn't need hits to win.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 16, 2022, 07:57:02 pm
Michael Chavis singles to break up the perfect game with two outs in the fifth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 16, 2022, 07:58:21 pm
Reb will be devastated.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 16, 2022, 08:52:05 pm
Rucker has come on in relief and has given up twice as many hits in 1/3 of an inning as Miley did in 7 innings.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 16, 2022, 09:16:57 pm
Rucker recovers to get the last six outs without allowing a run, and the Cubs have a very easy, relaxing win.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 16, 2022, 10:24:16 pm
https://youtu.be/PpLm88jb-aA
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 17, 2022, 02:59:41 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FS_Csr2X0AEEBV5?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 17, 2022, 07:37:57 pm
Vogelbach with his first career triple, in his 1218th PA…not only was it a standup triple, but it was to LF.

He then tags up on a medium fly ball to Suzuki, who nails him at the plate…and he comes up jawing at Contreras.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 17, 2022, 08:16:16 pm
Keegan is being lifted after five very effective innings and the Cubs up 6-0.  Great outing for him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 17, 2022, 08:36:21 pm
Norris out with some sort of injury.  Hughes finishes his batter with a walk charged to Norris, and then strikes out the next two.

Hard to say what was Norris's problem.  At one point after a pitch, his knee seemed to buckle.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 17, 2022, 08:48:02 pm
Hughes struck out the side the next inning, but really ruined it all by issuing a walk.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 17, 2022, 09:17:18 pm
Chris Morel is off to a fair start.  In his first at bat he hit it onto Waveland Avenue.  Contreras looked like he was having an orgasm. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 17, 2022, 09:25:16 pm
Morel crushed that 3-2 fastball…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 17, 2022, 09:36:48 pm
Exit velocity 110 MPH
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ben on May 17, 2022, 09:48:36 pm
Christopher Morel - "The Electric Machine" (according to Brennen Davis and, now, lots of fired-up Cub fans)

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on May 17, 2022, 09:58:54 pm
Morel's homer:


https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1526756479746949120
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 17, 2022, 10:13:42 pm
https://youtu.be/TDUZGaPne9E
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 17, 2022, 10:46:23 pm
https://youtu.be/fin6e364K0s
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 17, 2022, 11:14:25 pm
Just got home and watching the highlights...thank you Bennett for always posting those.   What were those Pittsburgh infielders doing on that infield fly?  It wasn't bad enough that they let it drop, but then they just stared at each other instead of going and picking it up.   Did they they the infield fly rule was being called?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 17, 2022, 11:21:07 pm
Morel made quite a meal of that HR trot, ROFL - missed first base, too.  Perfectly understandable for a hyper kid who just homered in his first major league AB, but you hope the notorious hothead Pirates don’t decide he was showing them up.

Play him everyday, Rossy, at least until the league makes an adjustment.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 18, 2022, 12:26:22 am
With today's win, the Cubs move ahead of the Pirates in the standings.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on May 18, 2022, 07:50:40 am
That would have been some game to have been at. Quite a few moments. Wow.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 18, 2022, 08:29:33 am
I loved seeing Contreras jump up and down when Morel hit that homer in his first major league at-bat.  He remembers the last time a Cub did that.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on May 18, 2022, 10:26:27 am
Morel's enthusiasm in the moment and post-game commentary reminded me a lot of Javy...
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 18, 2022, 11:09:14 am
Most of the Cubs minor league bloggers have mentioned that a lot of Morel's skills make them think of "Javy Lite".  Good speed.  Good power, good defense, and unfortunately, poor contact.  Off the field, the similarities continue with attitude, etc.

It will be nice if he is also as creative as Javy.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 18, 2022, 01:15:44 pm

The only way to watch tonight’s game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qg1BWHGqQ8


The league's MLB Network will produce the YouTube broadcasts. Scott Braun and Yonder Alonso will handle announcing duties, and MLB Network's Siera Santos will host a 30-minute pregame show before each contest. Games will also have a live chat feature with commentary from YouTube creators and in-game polls.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 18, 2022, 03:16:56 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTEN4JZWIAAIm-_?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 18, 2022, 04:52:51 pm
Morel's enthusiasm in the moment and post-game commentary reminded me a lot of Javy...

That's a very natural comparison for sure.  Given how drab things around the big club are at the moment it can certainly use an injection of unpredictability and the occasionally spectacular.  If Morel can bring that along with being a serviceable player, it's a nice bonus.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 18, 2022, 06:03:45 pm
I'm watching the pregame show on my flat screen TV using an Amazon Firestick.  There may be other options.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on May 18, 2022, 07:31:42 pm
Smyly looks terrible.  Awful body language.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on May 18, 2022, 07:34:14 pm
His pitches are no bargain either.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 18, 2022, 08:26:09 pm
SBs on consecutive days for Villar - maybe he’s playing himself into shape?  He’s certainly historically been better than the fat toad we saw for the first 6 weeks of the season.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 18, 2022, 11:30:58 pm
MLB has not made a condensed version of the Wednesday night game available,
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 19, 2022, 04:15:02 pm
The Cubs lineup is more than two hours behind schedule.  There must be a problem deciding who Marcus Stroman replaces on the roster.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 19, 2022, 04:26:00 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTJpPMVWAAEryF-?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on May 19, 2022, 07:16:10 pm
COVID doesn’t seem to have slowed down Stroman so far. Perfect through 3 innings with 5 strikeouts on only 33 pitches.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on May 19, 2022, 07:24:03 pm
And his first pitch in the 4th is a homer.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on May 19, 2022, 07:36:53 pm
Wheels are falling off for Stroman in the 4th, 3 runs in with 2 outs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 19, 2022, 11:02:21 pm
Not much to see

https://youtu.be/Ok_sPE7OtCc
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 20, 2022, 02:05:43 am
Not much to see


Kind of the story of the season, really, until Kilian and Davis arrive.  Morel may provide some entertainment and a couple of the young arms in the bullpen are interesting, but it’s not exactly must-see TV most nights.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on May 20, 2022, 07:52:10 am
Brandon Hughes nice through two appearances.  Not sure how long it will last, but his pitches don't seem to be extreme "chase" thus far?  Even those that aren't strikes, close enough to be tempting?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on May 20, 2022, 10:22:24 am
The lack of offense is frustrating, but if one looks at this season as an audition for the young or borderline players then there is reason to watch.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 20, 2022, 10:59:17 am
The lack of offense is frustrating, but if one looks at this season as an audition for the young or borderline players then there is reason to watch.
The glass is half full.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 20, 2022, 11:09:32 am
Third position in three days for Morel

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTNdrnRWIAA5H2h?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 20, 2022, 01:41:55 pm
2-0 Arizona after one.    Diamondbacks scored on a swinging bunt, two walks, and a two out single to center.  23 pitches for Kyle Hendricks.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 20, 2022, 01:53:53 pm
Both teams wearing camo caps on Armed Forces day.  The Cubs have Fergie Jenkins Statue Day patches on their right sleeves.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on May 20, 2022, 02:44:52 pm
Hendricks is awful today.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 20, 2022, 02:46:52 pm
so's the wind
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on May 20, 2022, 02:53:51 pm
Four homers for Hendricks through 5.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 20, 2022, 04:11:49 pm
Cubs down 9-5 with 2 runs in in the bottom of the seventh leave the bases loaded when Alfonso Rivas (3-36) Ks on  pitch in the dirt.  With Contreras ejected only Suzuki and Simmons were on the bench    Schwindel could have gone from DH to 1b.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 20, 2022, 04:24:50 pm
Now 10-5.  Vargas and Ortega walk to open the bottom of the ninth. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 20, 2022, 04:27:36 pm
10-6 final

(https://i.etsystatic.com/14044701/d/il/b36a7b/1552578679/il_340x270.1552578679_fve1.jpg?version=0)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 20, 2022, 05:41:29 pm
Highlights include the Contreras ejection in the bottom of the seventh.

https://youtu.be/YhB1qPOshW8
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 20, 2022, 06:40:28 pm
It'll be interesting to see how Morel adjusts when the league figures out never to throw him a fastball.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ben on May 21, 2022, 09:28:30 am
Morel likely to see one out pitch off the outside corner after another.  Sure hope he can adjust! 

If so, we will have quite a player!  Extreme athlete!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 21, 2022, 09:31:18 am
Morel's homer would have been a routine fly ball on a normal day.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 21, 2022, 09:55:41 am
Vs Madison Bumgarner  2-2  2.29  WHIP 1.19

(https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/29949.png&w=350&h=254)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTSiYELX0AIDJiB?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 21, 2022, 01:04:59 pm
Chicago Cubs  @Cubs  15m
The start of today's game will be delayed due to weather in the area.

We will update as information becomes available.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTTKIg8XoAIVUZO?format=jpg&name=900x900)



Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 21, 2022, 01:25:22 pm
Marquee is showing Fergie’s speech…which is nice…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 21, 2022, 02:10:37 pm
First pitch for today's #Cubs vs. D-backs game is approximately 2:50 p.m. CDT.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 21, 2022, 03:42:18 pm
Home runs by Schwindel and Wisdom put the Cubs ahead 2 - 0.  Steele with one hit, no runs through three innings and looking pretty good.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 21, 2022, 03:50:02 pm
Contreras comes out of the game with seemingly with a hamstring injury.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 21, 2022, 03:52:10 pm
Mark Grace in the Marquee booth with Boog and JD.   He must have quit smoking as his voice is 100% clearer than it has been in the past.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 21, 2022, 04:19:30 pm
Steele through 5 with no runs and I believe one hit.  Nine strikeouts.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on May 21, 2022, 04:42:42 pm
https://twitter.com/Cubs/status/1528126145643806721
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 21, 2022, 05:58:06 pm
I like Ross, but if he keeps handling Steele like he does, Steele will never get a quality start or even a lot of W's.  I had him in fantasy and had to dump him because he wasn't being rewarded for his good pitching.  And Wick has been lights out so let's bring in Robertson who's been really really sick.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 21, 2022, 05:59:34 pm
I like Ross, but if he keeps handling Steele like he does, Steele will never get a quality start or even a lot of W's.  I had him in fantasy and had to dump him because he wasn't being rewarded for his good pitching.  And Wick has been lights out so let's bring in Robertson who's been really really sick.
Robertson wasn't sharp but didn't get much help from umpire Chris Guccione.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 21, 2022, 06:05:34 pm
Morel singles with two out in the bottom of the ninth and hurts his knee colliding with the SS trying to steal.

He's scheduled to be the Cubs ghost runner in the bottom of the tenth.     Alfonso Rivas is the only available Cub.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 21, 2022, 06:11:17 pm
Diamondbacks go up 7-4 on a Little League homer by Daulton Varsho.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 21, 2022, 06:26:23 pm
Did I do a great job jinxing Wick or what?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 21, 2022, 06:38:20 pm
7-6 final.

Cubs led 4-0 after six.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 21, 2022, 07:30:11 pm
Steele through 5 with no runs and I believe one hit.  Nine strikeouts.
  The announcers were saying that it is the first time EVER that a pitcher with 9 K's and having only given up 1 hit has been pulled after 5.  EVER.  Young pitchers don't build confidence with that pattern.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 21, 2022, 07:56:25 pm
https://youtu.be/CULdaG8iU4U
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 22, 2022, 10:30:19 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTXyRMyWUAAd7ak?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 22, 2022, 11:02:58 am
With Willson Contreras probably not able to play and the backup catcher (Yan Gomes) usually held back in case of injury, that essentially leaves manager David Ross with a one-man bench of Christopher Morel.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 23, 2022, 02:25:13 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTdum-uXwAAiMn1?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 23, 2022, 04:34:40 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTeLpBdXwAEM9kl?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 23, 2022, 05:55:06 pm
Once again, I’m totally confused by MLB blackout rules…

Up until this season, I have been forced to watch announcers for the Braves, Cardinals, and Reds whenever they play the Cubs…regardless of whether they are home or away games.

I have complained about this incessantly on here…Chip is awful, the Cardinals are even worse, and while Thom never bothered me all that much, I was still irked by the logic that makes Cincinnati a territorial team for the Memphis market. Really?!

Anyway, this season…I’m able to watch the Cubs feeds for each of these rivalries…which is so nice! I’m just not sure what changed…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 23, 2022, 06:33:49 pm
Interested to hear how Morel looks at short.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 23, 2022, 07:04:09 pm
On MLB I'm blacked out of Cub games when the Cardinals are at Wrigley.  Fortunately, Fox usually carries the game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on May 23, 2022, 07:09:26 pm
Wisdom is the modern day Rob Deer. Certainly productive when locked in.

4th straight game with a homer.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on May 23, 2022, 07:27:06 pm
Wisdom is the modern day Rob Deer. Certainly productive when locked in.

4th straight game with a homer.

His OPS is now .797, with a BA of .223.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 23, 2022, 07:40:06 pm
Deer hit .220 with a .766 OPS, which is probably a good comp for Wisdom.  He was also - like Wisdom - a statistically average defender, albeit as a corner OF rather than a 3B.


Deer had a much lower K-rate and higher walk rate, however. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 23, 2022, 08:14:54 pm
Let's see, pitching coach comes out and consults with the pitcher and Wisdom hits the next pitch for a 3 run homer;  manager comes out and changes pitchers and on the first pitch, Happ hits a 3 run homer.  Cincy, I think I see your problem.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on May 23, 2022, 09:02:26 pm

Deer had a much lower K-rate and higher walk rate, however.


Think you can mark that down to the difference in pitching quality league wide now.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 23, 2022, 09:34:46 pm
Robertson closes it out; Cubs win!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 23, 2022, 10:21:11 pm
https://youtu.be/xEvjknOWQT4
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 24, 2022, 12:26:50 am
How'd Morel look at SS?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 24, 2022, 07:53:28 am
I heard a Baez comparison on one play (probably a throw), but I was only half watching at the time…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on May 24, 2022, 08:18:02 am
He showed a quick release and made a strong, accurate throw on a fairly routine grounder late in the game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: method on May 24, 2022, 01:39:18 pm
I can’t listen to anyone other then the Sox broadcast crew… rest of AL C is horrible. If I am forced to watch another feed, it’s on mute.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 24, 2022, 02:37:47 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTi-Zc0XoAAdZrG?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 24, 2022, 06:26:54 pm
DH rule: is it solely for the pitcher?  Could we DH for Simmons instead?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on May 24, 2022, 06:32:16 pm
DH rule: is it solely for the pitcher?  Could we DH for Simmons instead?

I believe you are thinking of the DFA rule.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 24, 2022, 06:54:13 pm
Two-run triple for Rivas brings the Tank and Wisdom in to score and the Cubs lead 5-2.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 24, 2022, 06:56:02 pm
Higgins at catcher as Yan Gomes was a late scratch with a tight oblique.  That leaves Jonathan Villar as the only position player on the bench.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 24, 2022, 07:25:29 pm
I believe you are thinking of the DFA rule.
Actually I'm thinking of high  school rules where my pitchers were often my best hitters.  If this were high school I MIGHT let Simmons hit.  Maybe.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 24, 2022, 09:04:26 pm
Simmons with three hits today, as well as stellar defense.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 24, 2022, 09:25:46 pm
Simmons now batting .261.

On other hand, also slugging .261.

Waiting to see him hit something hard into OF gaps.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 24, 2022, 09:33:13 pm
Yeah, even against the infielder lobbing cookies up there, he stayed back on it and hit a grounder thru the right side.

I wonder if it hurts for him to swing…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 24, 2022, 09:49:32 pm
Tyler Naquin hit a homer late in the game.  Good to see him doing well; my main memory of him is him misplaying a ball in the 2016 World Series.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 24, 2022, 10:23:42 pm
Simmons' lovers.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 24, 2022, 10:30:09 pm
https://youtu.be/_AoAFTIq3E4
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on May 25, 2022, 07:06:26 am
I wonder if it hurts for him to swing…

Hurts who?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 25, 2022, 10:11:10 am
Heh!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 25, 2022, 02:23:24 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FToDEACXwAAmARZ?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 25, 2022, 06:43:48 pm
Votto has a HR and a triple thru 3 innings…cycle watch…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 25, 2022, 09:27:01 pm
Christopher Morel strikes out to end the ninth-inning teaser rally.

The Cubs still have a positive run differential despite being way under .500.  All these close losses followed by the occasional blowout win.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 25, 2022, 11:12:16 pm
https://youtu.be/jvdsWPo-26E
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 26, 2022, 12:02:58 am
Christopher Morel strikes out to end the ninth-inning teaser rally.

The Cubs still have a positive run differential despite being way under .500.  All these close losses followed by the occasional blowout win.

Which tells you all you need to know about the value of that statistic in baseball.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 26, 2022, 12:42:32 am
No, it’s mostly just a statistical anomaly because Cubs had a +21 in one game, compounded by it still being early in the season.

Also, clubs with good bullpens, such ad Cubs, sometimes outperform their Pythagorian more so than other clubs.

Pythag was never intended to exactly track wins/losses but to better understand what clubs are winning or losing more than they “should” be based on their talent level. By end of season, it averages about + or - 3 wins from actual wins.

Not a Holy Grail but a useful, fun stat.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 26, 2022, 08:44:37 am
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 26, 2022, 12:33:01 pm
Coming down pretty good in top 3…I wouldn’t want to be Rivas right now…standing in the box with Hunter Greene throwing a wet ball…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 26, 2022, 12:55:25 pm
The rain stopped…sadly, for Cubs fans…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 26, 2022, 01:15:27 pm
Ryan Dempster has turned into an entertaining, informative, and above average color commentator.   As long as he doesn't do his pathetic Harry Caray imitation.

10-3 Reds after four.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 26, 2022, 01:16:05 pm
Now 10-4 on a Contreras 441' homer.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 26, 2022, 01:18:03 pm
Happ back-to-back blast makes it 10-5
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 26, 2022, 01:40:21 pm
The tarp goes on the field in the top of the sixth.  On getaway day, of course.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 26, 2022, 03:35:03 pm
Simmons pitching the 8th…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 26, 2022, 03:35:32 pm
Ross was tossed again…whose idea was it to pitch Simmons?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 26, 2022, 03:37:40 pm
LOL, pitch at the eyes was just called a strike…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 26, 2022, 03:37:57 pm
The pitch was 42 mph
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 26, 2022, 03:41:43 pm
Simmons gives up 5…20-5 after 8…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 26, 2022, 04:20:02 pm
There goes the Cubs run differential.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 26, 2022, 04:23:11 pm
Attendance for the four game series

12,029
14,386
11,417
13,578

There used to be almost that may Cubs fans there for each game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 26, 2022, 04:49:51 pm
Simmons pitching the 8th…

Is it not kind of nuts to use a guy with shoulder issues as a pitcher?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on May 26, 2022, 05:06:23 pm
I think he topped out at about 50.  Should be OK.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 26, 2022, 06:10:38 pm
Simmons pitching the 8th…
That should help his arm problems!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 26, 2022, 06:50:45 pm
The more I think about this, the more insane it seems.  How can Ross possibly think it’s a good idea to use a guy who missed 30 games with shoulder problems to pitch?  WTF?  Use anybody else on the roster.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 26, 2022, 08:32:56 pm
He threw one about 76 that was nowhere near the plate…

Ross had been tossed by that point. I’m hoping it wasn’t his call.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 26, 2022, 08:57:04 pm
He threw one about 76 that was nowhere near the plate…

Ross had been tossed by that point. I’m hoping it wasn’t his call.

Didn’t know he’s been tossed.  Sure hope he had nothing to do with the decision.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 26, 2022, 10:58:32 pm
Geez, folks here are obsessed with Simmons’ throwing.

It’s a non-issue. Today, he was lobbing pitches with a big arch. Throwing upper 40s. Yeah, he threw one pitch at 79. Not a big deal.

Seriously, you think a veteran like Simmons is going to pitch if he feels there’s a risk throwing 48 mph? The only risk today was if somebody hit a liner back toward the mound.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dev on May 27, 2022, 08:04:06 am
Weird...Friday and no game...I don't remember that ever happening....I do remember last year or the year before Oakland was off on  a Sunday...
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on May 27, 2022, 08:50:20 am
In 2014, the Cubs were off on a Sunday.  They had a four game set against the Nationals.  Thursday, Friday, and a Saturday doubleheader.  The Sunday game was rescheduled due to traffic concerns relating to the gay pride parade.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 28, 2022, 02:42:40 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 28, 2022, 02:44:26 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 28, 2022, 06:56:29 pm
Hoerner at short and Simmons at 2B is interesting.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 28, 2022, 09:57:40 pm
It makes sense to keep Hoerner at SS to see if he’s legit there defensively over a full season. SS defense in the big leagues  is a high bar of course.

So far, he’s answering that question affirmatively over a short sample size. If he’s solid there, it would make some things easier for off-season planning, obviously.

With Madrigal and Bote now on rehab assignments, roster crunch coming soon. Bunch of active roster guys have options. Maybe a veteran even gets released. Possible.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 28, 2022, 10:26:00 pm
https://youtu.be/NsJrb4CnGOw
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 29, 2022, 09:11:27 am
If they think that Morel will hit well enough to play center (I don't, at this point), then Hermosillo is quite expendable.  Bote has an option left, but I don't know if, with his MLB time, he has to accept it.  If not, I doubt that anyone would claim him off waivers.

Also, with Hendricks, Miley, Smyly, Stroman, Steele and Thompson all having some success as starters, and Kilian waiting in the wings, this may be a good time to see what they could get for Miley or Smily, or even Hendricks or Stroman, instead of waiting for the trade deadline.

And I, for one, have seen just about enough of Villar.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on May 29, 2022, 10:14:08 am
Why do you doubt Morel's ability to hit?  To my eye, he has been excellent at the plate so far.  He seems to have a good sense of the strike zone and is aggressive when appropriate.  Lots of solid contact too.  Very promising.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 29, 2022, 10:40:19 am
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 29, 2022, 12:30:26 pm
Why do you doubt Morel's ability to hit?  To my eye, he has been excellent at the plate so far.  He seems to have a good sense of the strike zone and is aggressive when appropriate.  Lots of solid contact too.  Very promising.

I agree.  But I can't get visions of Junior Lake, whose record and reports in the minors were rather similar to Morel.  He got off to the best start of any Cub I can remember, with the possible exception of Schwindel, and then reverted to all the weaknesses of his youth.

I hope Morel continues to excel, since he is the only hope for near term offensive surprises, other than perhaps Valasquez.  But having been a Cub fan for almost 75 years, I have been bitten before.  How well I remember Bob Speake.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on May 29, 2022, 12:44:13 pm
I definitely buy the fact that it's tough for any minor leaguer to advance to the majors and have sustained success.  And certainly the Cubs have a poor track record in this over the years.  But I don't see anything specifically with regards to Morel's approach or performance so far that would be a reason to be pessimistic about him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 29, 2022, 03:32:29 pm
I agree.  I have seen nothing in his performance so far that justifies my worry.  In my opinion, it will all come down to his contact rate, and it often takes a month or more for MLB pitchers to find the holes in his swing, if there are any.

By the way, Morel certainly didn't look wall shy on that fly ball.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on May 29, 2022, 03:54:57 pm
Don't often see the tying run score in the 9th on a strikeout/wild pitch.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 29, 2022, 04:58:57 pm
Has Ross been fired yet?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Robert L on May 29, 2022, 05:10:18 pm
lets hope so!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on May 29, 2022, 05:13:50 pm
Every time I look they are eight games under. They are eight games under once again.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 29, 2022, 05:18:19 pm
Gsellman keeps getting chances season after season, and never seems to produce much.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on May 29, 2022, 05:58:55 pm
Gsellman keeps getting chances season after season, and never seems to produce much.

Yes, I don't see the appeal.  I don't see the appeal of Mark Leiter, Jr. either.  Adrian Sampson impressed me more than either.  A low bar, to be sure.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 29, 2022, 06:44:18 pm
Sorry to be negative, but with a doubleheader tomorrow, I would have sent Robertson out for the 10th, or, even though he had pitched yesterday, I'd have sent my second closer, Wick, to close it out.  Burning a bunch of projects and losing the game was a double whammy.   JMO.  I know many will disagree.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 29, 2022, 06:57:48 pm
https://youtu.be/td1dYLAvKMY
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 30, 2022, 02:58:37 am

By the way, Morel certainly didn't look wall shy on that fly ball.

Morel made a nice play on the fly ball. In the earlier discussion, didn’t think he was wall shy but rather an issue of badly misjudging flight of the ball. Even today, it was a rather awkward effort but he stuck with it and made the nice play. As said before, think Morel needs lots of repetitions in the OF and he’ll probably get better and better.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 30, 2022, 09:41:55 am
MLB Network in some areas

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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 30, 2022, 11:25:19 am
My guy Ethan pitching today for the Brewers…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on May 30, 2022, 12:07:48 pm
Interesting call up today.   Anderson Espinosa is 0 - 4 with a .731 ERA at Tennessee.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on May 30, 2022, 12:11:40 pm
Not easy to go 0-4 with an ERA that low!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 30, 2022, 02:03:52 pm
Frank the Tank may be the worst defensive 1Bman I’ve ever seen…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 30, 2022, 04:17:23 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 30, 2022, 04:25:17 pm
Frank the Tank may be the worst defensive 1Bman I’ve ever seen…
He really butchered a couple today.  He's auditioning for everyday DH.

I liked what I saw of Small, Dave.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 30, 2022, 05:23:57 pm
Sitting Hoerner for Simmons? Ugh…

He threw it pretty well…I’m sure there were some jitters.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 30, 2022, 05:25:59 pm
https://youtu.be/eIj38BDLcJI
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 30, 2022, 05:52:31 pm
Sitting Hoerner for Simmons? Ugh…

He threw it pretty well…I’m sure there were some jitters.

I assume you guys are talking about Swarmer?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 30, 2022, 05:59:30 pm
I was responding to Curt re: Ethan Small…

I liked what I saw from Swarmer. Mixed it up well, hit his spots, kept the Brewers off balance. If not for the E-5 (that should have been an E-3), he would have gotten a W today.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 30, 2022, 06:43:50 pm
I was responding to Curt re: Ethan Small…

I liked what I saw from Swarmer. Mixed it up well, hit his spots, kept the Brewers off balance. If not for the E-5 (that should have been an E-3), he would have gotten a W today.

Ah, okay.  Seeing Swarmer mostly at 89-90 on the fastball is a bit of a damper on the enthusiasm there, but the Cubs do love their soft-tossing RHP.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 30, 2022, 06:46:46 pm
I thought he was a little more than that…saw lots of 91-92…

Happ in CF for game 2, and just made a fantastic catch to rob Urias of extra bases…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 30, 2022, 06:53:38 pm
I thought he was a little more than that…saw lots of 91-92…

Happ in CF for game 2, and just made a fantastic catch to rob Urias of extra bases…

Just going by the game logs.  Didn’t check every pitch of course.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on May 30, 2022, 06:59:13 pm
Swarmer was mostly 91-92 on the fastball, at least according to the broadcast.  He's going to be susceptible to slugging, but he seems to have decent command and an idea out there.  Ironically, looked way better than Cory Abbott ever did.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 30, 2022, 07:33:04 pm
Smyly out after 3 hitless…back, maybe?

Not sure why Kilian isn’t there tonight…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 30, 2022, 07:38:58 pm
Yippee.  If he's hurt we can recall Gselldork.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 30, 2022, 07:56:04 pm
Number 67 is the best we could find for Swarmer?  This early in the season?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 30, 2022, 08:13:16 pm
Oblique for Smyly…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on May 30, 2022, 08:28:16 pm
Oblique for Smyly…

Brutal.  That's going to be a couple of months.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 30, 2022, 08:48:27 pm
Espinoza’s 84th pitch of the night is an 80mph curveball that K’s Urias swinging.

4 pretty good innings from a kid who didn’t pitch in an almost 4 year span, who has marginal control, and making his ML debut. Really couldn’t have expected much more…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 30, 2022, 09:04:29 pm
More hapless at the plate…Simmons or Heyward?

I’m pretty confident it’s Simmons. When was his last fly ball to the OF? Everything is a weak grounder.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 30, 2022, 09:06:17 pm
Taylor welcomes Hughes back to the majors with a bomb to LF and it’s 3-1…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 30, 2022, 09:50:25 pm
More hapless at the plate…Simmons or Heyward?

I’m pretty confident it’s Simmons. When was his last fly ball to the OF? Everything is a weak grounder.

Oh, it’s definitely Simmons but you could have asked “Simmons or anybody” and the answer would be the same.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 30, 2022, 11:12:01 pm
Thought that Ross made a peculiar decision in the bases loaded, no outs situation late in game 2.

Rivas spot is up against Boxberger with Simmons on deck. Bases loaded, no outs. One run game. Ross chooses to pinch hit Hoerner for Rivas. Seems like better call would be to let Rivas hit there and then pinch hit Hoerner for Simmons. Gotta be scared to death that Simmons will hit a grounder, which is what happened.

Know that Rivas has looked terrible lately and that the no-outs batter is the key PA there, but still there’s platoon advantage. Maybe Ross thought that Rivas was a K situation waiting to happen but think should be more concerned about a Simmons DP waiting to happen.

Guess that Rivas must really be in the doghouse for Ross to make that move.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 30, 2022, 11:22:55 pm
Thought that Ross made a peculiar decision in the bases loaded, no outs situation late in game 2.

Rivas spot is up against Boxberger with Simmons on deck. Bases loaded, no outs. One run game. Ross chooses to pinch hit Hoerner for Rivas. Seems like better call would be to let Rivas hit there and then pinch hit Hoerner for Simmons. Gotta be scared to death that Simmons will hit a grounder, which is what happened.

Know that Rivas has looked terrible lately and that the no-outs batter is the key PA there, but still there’s platoon advantage. Maybe Ross thought that Rivas was a K situation waiting to happen but think should be more concerned about a Simmons DP waiting to happen.

Guess that Rivas must really be in the doghouse for Ross to make that move.
I like Ross, but I question why a former catcher can't play chess better than he does.  Our last 3 games, at least two were winnable if Ross had pulled the right strings.  I know that this club isn't going anywhere and that development is more important than W's, but Green needs to speak up more as the bench coach, or, if he's the guy leading Rossie to some of these decisions, he needs to shut-the-hell-up.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 30, 2022, 11:23:05 pm
https://youtu.be/0DVSUzAS2jA
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 30, 2022, 11:36:35 pm
I like Ross, but I question why a former catcher can't play chess better than he does.  Our last 3 games, at least two were winnable if Ross had pulled the right strings.  I know that this club isn't going anywhere and that development is more important than W's, but Green needs to speak up more as the bench coach, or, if he's the guy leading Rossie to some of these decisions, he needs to shut-the-hell-up.

Aside from the one that I mentioned, what other Ross chess moves didn’t you like?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on May 30, 2022, 11:48:28 pm
Yesterday when the Cubs took the two run lead in the tenth, I would have had Robertson stay in and finish or bring Wick in instead of a stream of lessers.   This fear of using pitchers back to back is nuts.  If it's what you have to do, do it and give them a couple days off.  Ross cripples himself.  Another thing, instead of two lineups today salt and peppered with regulars and prospects, at least try to nail down one game with your best.  All in all, that means one game may be a blow-out, but that's one L instead of 3.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 31, 2022, 02:00:24 am
Don’t really see any of that as chess in-game strategy but rather-a matter of roster usage in a 162 game season.

In the instances you mention, Robertson threw 19 pitches the previous game and using him a second day for TWO innings (instead of one) and probably 30-35 pitches the second day seems like asking a bit much. Ross used him back-to- back days. Can see the rationale for one inning only the second day. Don’t see too many closers going two innings in any case.

Wick had pitched three 3 of the previous 4 days. So, probably just unavailable for this game. Just the way it is. Not every pitcher available every game, as you know, and that’s decided before the game by all involved..

Today was a DH. You’re going to see a different lineup mix for DH games and I guess Ross wanted to get the young guys on the field, not to mention Suzuki's unavailability. Don’t see a problem.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on May 31, 2022, 08:01:15 am
Other than the roster.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on May 31, 2022, 08:38:12 am
In the bottom of the seventh in game one on Monday, Willson Contreras went from first to third on a single by Patrick Wisdom.  He was looking back at the centerfielder the whole time he was headed to third.

Fundamental mistakes like this happen enough that I wonder if David Ross isn’t just a bit too soft when it comes to discipline.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 31, 2022, 11:56:45 am
Wisdom’s hit was in the RCF gap. Willson was getting third base easily. He was looking to see if it was going to the wall.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on May 31, 2022, 06:21:37 pm
Ross apparently apologizing to Rivas for yesterday’s pinch hitting by starting him tonight against a lefty.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on May 31, 2022, 07:39:23 pm
Contreras just hit a homer with 116 mph exit velocity, which appears to be the hardest hit ball of his career.

The Cubs are crazy if they don't at least make a strong push to give him a fair contract. Offer him a little more than the Salvador Perez extension from a year ago and see if he bites. Unlike Bryant, Rizzo, and (to a lesser extent) Baez, there's nothing in Willson's underlying numbers that make it look like his best years are behind him. In fact, his quality of contact numbers are elite this year, and are better than they've ever been.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on May 31, 2022, 08:24:10 pm
And he started catching late, so it’s not like he has a ton of mileage on his knees…and we even have a DH slot for him now to spell him as he gets older.

Unless we are absolutely blown away by an offer, we’re fools not to keep him around.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on May 31, 2022, 09:34:29 pm
Morel has a 90 mph lineout , a 104 mph lineout, and a 101 mph triple tonight.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 31, 2022, 09:36:15 pm
Caratini hits a three-run homer to give Milwaukee the lead, but the Cubs get the runs right back on a Madrigal hit, a Higgins homer, a Morel triple, and a Contreras double.  I miss Caratini, but our two catchers seem to be able to produce just as much this inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 31, 2022, 10:35:00 pm
Wizzy!  His homer gives the Cubs an 8-7 lead heading to the ninth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on May 31, 2022, 10:41:29 pm
A 1-2-3 ninth wins the game for the Cubs.  Some great rallies today and it's nice to finally get a win.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on May 31, 2022, 10:53:41 pm
Really fun game!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on May 31, 2022, 11:15:54 pm
Contreras just hit a homer with 116 mph exit velocity, which appears to be the hardest hit ball of his career.

The Cubs are crazy if they don't at least make a strong push to give him a fair contract. Offer him a little more than the Salvador Perez extension from a year ago and see if he bites. Unlike Bryant, Rizzo, and (to a lesser extent) Baez, there's nothing in Willson's underlying numbers that make it look like his best years are behind him. In fact, his quality of contact numbers are elite this year, and are better than they've ever been.

I think it’s pretty likely the uptick in Willson’s offense is at least partly attributable to the fact that his catching workload is way down this season.  Which is fine, but that should be a factor in deciding how much you’re going to pay him.  If he’s DHing 80 games a year that’s relevant.

Extending him is tricky.  You can talk about underlying numbers all you want but offering a long-term extension to a catcher in this 30’s is risky business for a team in the embryonic stages of a rebuild.  I think it comes down to whether you think Contreras will still be at a high level at 33-35, because it’s hard to see the Cubs being contenders earlier than that.  It’s only money and sure, you’re rather see it go to Contreras than Trump fundraisers or Chelsea F.C.. But if you could get a couple of really good young players for him by dealing him, that’s a pretty defensible route to take.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 01, 2022, 12:40:52 am
Ross apparently apologizing to Rivas for yesterday’s pinch hitting by starting him tonight against a lefty.

Ross revokes his apology to Rivas by pinch-hitting for him tonight in the FIFTH inning.

EDIT: Post-game: Ross explains after the game that Rivas was in starting lineup against lefty tonight because Ross could not locate his glasses and inadvertently punched in Rivas name on lineup card. Didn’t notice that Rivas was in the game until the fifth inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 01, 2022, 01:18:52 am
Brewers calling up Jason Alexander to start against Cubs on Wednesday in his major league debut.

This guy has a fantastic backstory reaching the majors.

https://medium.com/jaxshrimp/jason-alexander-was-finally-given-a-chance-d0f667a7082f
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 01, 2022, 04:57:55 pm
How long are the Cubs going to let Heyward leech ABs from guys who might actually matter?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on June 01, 2022, 05:08:26 pm
I wonder if there is friction behind the scenes between Ross and his bosses about this.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 01, 2022, 05:46:15 pm
I wonder if there is friction behind the scenes between Ross and his bosses about this.

Serious question - which side do you think would be pushing for which position?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on June 01, 2022, 06:02:41 pm
I assume upper management would have the longer term picture in mind.  At least that's what I would hope.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 01, 2022, 06:07:06 pm
I assume upper management with have the longer term picture in mind.  At least that's what I would hope.

ROFL, I thought you were going the other way.  And that we can’t be sure is pretty sad in itself.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 01, 2022, 07:22:51 pm
Morel walks and Contreras singles to start the 1st.

Contreras single was 115 off the bat.

Now a double steal, and the throw goes into LF. 1-0 Cubs, and Willy on 3rd…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 01, 2022, 07:47:28 pm
After a leadoff triple from Jace Peterson, Rivas and Hendricks make a nice play on a grounder to hold the runner at third.

Now Kolten Wong gets a hit and the run comes in anyway.  2-1, Cubs.

And a spiffy 5-4-3 DP ends the inning.  Would be great to see Hendricks pitch deeply into this one and win it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on June 02, 2022, 12:06:59 am
https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1532216375548252160

The Cubs should extend Willson Contreras.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 02, 2022, 12:53:20 am
https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1532216375548252160


Oh, that’s great. Thanks.
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Post by: CurtOne on June 02, 2022, 11:38:37 am
I noticed that at the time last night.  We will regret not keeping such a leader. 
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Post by: CUBluejays on June 02, 2022, 11:50:56 am
https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1532216375548252160

The Cubs should extend Willson Contreras.

They won't. 

I love Willson and will miss him just as much as the other guys.  Catchers are kinda tricky and Willson is going to be 32/33 when the Cubs are just starting to be good again.  It would be so much easier if Hoyer would just come out and admit what they are doing instead of trying to be coy and trick fans into buying overpriced tickets.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: method on June 02, 2022, 01:37:22 pm
Cubs vs Cardinals over the past 116 seasons*:

1,116-1,116-16 (.500 W-L)

*includes postseason
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 02, 2022, 03:03:38 pm
Totally disagree, Joe.  You're thinking that Willson won't be valuable when the team is ready to compete again.  br and I are saying that without solid leadership, these young players may never be ready.  The 2016 team had leadership; the brain trust brought in Heyward, Ross, Lester, Lackey, Chapman, Strop, and Zobrist.  Even if the 2024 team doesn't win, you want them to have certain character and commitment.  It's probably why they've hung on to Heyward and why they may hang onto Contreras.
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Post by: Playtwo on June 02, 2022, 03:22:45 pm
With the DH available to limit Contreras' time behind the plate, with the dearth of offensive catchers out there, and considering his leadership skills, it makes sense to do what you can to keep him for the next 3-4 years.  I expect that to happen.
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Post by: Dave23 on June 02, 2022, 08:02:48 pm
Unless we get blown away by an offer, not extending him would be completely moronic.
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Post by: Deeg on June 02, 2022, 08:04:23 pm
Unless we get blown away by an offer, not extending him would be completely moronic.

Define “blown away”.
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Post by: Dave23 on June 02, 2022, 08:15:42 pm
An offer that anyone couldn’t refuse…

This is the best Happ has ever hit RH…at least to my eye. He’s been great from the right side this year.
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Post by: Dave23 on June 02, 2022, 08:16:53 pm
What do you think would be some hypothetical offers for him?
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Post by: CurtOne on June 02, 2022, 08:21:22 pm
Define “blown away”.
A lot more than Jose Quintana.  Ahelluvvalot more.
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Post by: Deeg on June 02, 2022, 09:27:57 pm
A lot more than Jose Quintana.  Ahelluvvalot more.

Yeah, that’s realistic.
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Post by: Deeg on June 02, 2022, 09:30:03 pm
What do you think would be some hypothetical offers for him?

For a guy with part of one season left under contract?  I’m pretty confident it wouldn’t be what you would consider “blown away”, that’s for sure.  If you got one top-50 prospect for him I think that would be the most optimistic outcome.  Which means your position would be “don’t trade him”, which is fine - it’s certainly a convincing argument.  I just think a pretty strong case can be made the other way.
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Post by: CurtOne on June 02, 2022, 09:33:07 pm
I have no confidence in our GM to resign him no matter what arguments are given.
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Post by: Dave23 on June 02, 2022, 09:36:29 pm
So if you assume that the return for Willson would be less than the return for Rizzo, or Bryant, or Baez…wouldn’t it be a better baseball move to try to do what you can to re-sign him first?
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Post by: Dave23 on June 02, 2022, 09:38:11 pm
It’s a shame we can’t sign him to an “under the table” deal for 2023 and forward, and then trade him as a 3 month rental…
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Post by: Deeg on June 02, 2022, 09:44:39 pm
So if you assume that the return for Willson would be less than the return for Rizzo, or Bryant, or Baez…wouldn’t it be a better baseball move to try to do what you can to re-sign him first?

What top 50 prospects did we get for any of those guys?  If you mean PCA, he certainly wasn’t that at the time we traded for him.

I’m not saying I wouldn’t try and re-sign him, but what I offered would be commensurate with the reality that he’s probably going to be in decline within 3 years and may not be a full-time catcher even now.  I’m not sure why you’d expect to get more for him than those three guys, except maybe for the fact that he’s a catcher.   He’s a rental whose best skill is his bat, not his receiving.  If you could get a guy like PCA or Kilian that’s probably realistic.  Whether it’s enough is in the eye of the beholder.
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Post by: CurtOne on June 02, 2022, 09:55:10 pm
Baez would have been safe at the plate.  Higgins is a draft horse.
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Post by: Dave23 on June 02, 2022, 10:37:57 pm
That’s kinda what I’m saying…I wouldn’t deal him for a PCA or a Kilian straight up unless it was abundantly clear he had no interest in a new contract. His value to the Cubs, both present and future, is greater than that, imo.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on June 02, 2022, 10:38:29 pm
"Blown away" is a subjective term that could mean anything to anyone.

I personally hope that the Cubs sign Contreras to an extention.  He is a good enough hitter that even if he is converted from catcher to another position or even DH, he would be extremely valuable well through a 5 year contract.  But I believe he wants to try the free agent market, and I doubt the Cubs will go what they consider over market to get him.

As far as the return is concerned, I was happy with the returns that the Cubs got for Bryant, Rizzo and Baez, both at the time of the trades, and now.  I would be perfectly happy with an equal return for Contreras.  The current scouting staff and GM did an excellent job on the trades last year, and I have no reason to think they are not able to do it again this year.  Naturally, luck plays a part in any trade for young players, just as luck plays a part in signing or resigning a veteran free agent  Nobody wins every trade, and nobody wins every free agent signing.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 02, 2022, 11:02:15 pm
Update on Contreras HBP:

Meghan Montemurro
@M_Montemurro

Willson Contreras says he got hit right above his left ankle. It’s sore and has a bandage on the spot, but he expects to be OK.

Contreras says he was already not going to be in the lineup tomorrow and looks to play Saturday.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 02, 2022, 11:13:27 pm
That’s kinda what I’m saying…I wouldn’t deal him for a PCA or a Kilian straight up unless it was abundantly clear he had no interest in a new contract. His value to the Cubs, both present and future, is greater than that, imo.

Broadly I agree, but “no interest” is a big umbrella. I think my take would be that his interest interests me less than his signature.  Certainly you negotiate and try and narrow down just what it would take, even while you’re fielding calls from other teams.  And if we’re in July and you get an offer like PCA, you take it unless he’s willing to sign right then and there on terms you can live with.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 02, 2022, 11:59:54 pm
When a pending significant free agent signs an extension mid-season of their walk year, there’s almost always some momentum beforehand. If there’s any momentum between Cubs and Contreras, it’s a well-kept secret.

Bigger issue perhaps is whether—unlike with Baez, Bryant, Rizzo—Cubs go heavy AFTER the season to sign Contreras.

Maybe will happen.

Think it was BN that discussed packaging Contreras and Robertson to Mets. That kind of thing—which would be huge for Mets—should get a very significant return. Lot of pressure on Mets to make a post-season run this year.

Then, go heavy to bring Contreras back after the season.
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Post by: davep on June 03, 2022, 08:12:44 am
Broadly I agree, but “no interest” is a big umbrella. I think my take would be that his interest interests me less than his signature.  Certainly you negotiate and try and narrow down just what it would take, even while you’re fielding calls from other teams.  And if we’re in July and you get an offer like PCA, you take it unless he’s willing to sign right then and there on terms you can live with.

That is pretty much my view.  I hope they can sign him, and they should try as hard as possible to reach an agreement before the trade deadline.  But if either side is not willing to agree to an extension prior to the deadline, they should take the best offer possible, rather than let him become a free agent with no compensation.  They can always try to sign him as a free agent in the winter.

Both Baez and Rizzo finally signed at very little more per year than what the Cubs had already offered.  I expect that, like last year, it will come down to the length of the contract, rather than the annual salary.
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Post by: Dave23 on June 03, 2022, 08:27:06 am
Broadly I agree, but “no interest” is a big umbrella. I think my take would be that his interest interests me less than his signature.  Certainly you negotiate and try and narrow down just what it would take, even while you’re fielding calls from other teams.  And if we’re in July and you get an offer like PCA, you take it unless he’s willing to sign right then and there on terms you can live with.
I agree with this as well.
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Post by: CUBluejays on June 03, 2022, 10:07:17 am
What top 50 prospects did we get for any of those guys?  If you mean PCA, he certainly wasn’t that at the time we traded for him.

I’m not saying I wouldn’t try and re-sign him, but what I offered would be commensurate with the reality that he’s probably going to be in decline within 3 years and may not be a full-time catcher even now.  I’m not sure why you’d expect to get more for him than those three guys, except maybe for the fact that he’s a catcher.   He’s a rental whose best skill is his bat, not his receiving.  If you could get a guy like PCA or Kilian that’s probably realistic.  Whether it’s enough is in the eye of the beholder.

Why does it matter what a guy is ranked on the day you traded for him?

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on June 03, 2022, 01:55:56 pm
Why the Cubs are the only team that can't get Lars Nootbar out is one of the mysteries of the universe.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on June 03, 2022, 01:58:20 pm
Patrick Wisdom is just about at 600 career ML at-bats:

.227, 25 2B, 44 HR, 102 RBI, 255 K
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 03, 2022, 02:11:47 pm
Interesting…I think “two hole-in-ones” sounds better, and more correct, than “two holes-in-one”…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on June 03, 2022, 03:26:13 pm
Why is Heyward still getting regular ABs? I get it if they value his leadership a lot and don't want to cut him, but that doesn't mean he ever has to be in the lineup ahead of anyone else who can play the outfield.
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Post by: mO on June 03, 2022, 03:34:37 pm
The only other options are Frazier or Ortega....?
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Post by: Dave23 on June 03, 2022, 03:44:13 pm
Zach Thompson in to pitch the 6th for the Cards…he’s wearing #57, and is the first player to wear that number for the Cards since Darryl Kile.
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Post by: CUBluejays on June 03, 2022, 03:55:38 pm
Why is Heyward still getting regular ABs? I get it if they value his leadership a lot and don't want to cut him, but that doesn't mean he ever has to be in the lineup ahead of anyone else who can play the outfield.

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After posting a 68 wRC+ in 104 games last season, Jason Heyward is currently at a 52 wRC+ with an 0-for-3 so far today (his 30th game of the year).

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Jon Lester had a 46 wRC+ in 2019.

Do with this information what you will.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on June 03, 2022, 04:09:07 pm
The only other options are Frazier or Ortega....?

Frazier is a far better use of PAs, IMO. Ortega probably is too because at least he still looks like a decent fourth outfielder.

Or Morel (who is at 2B today) could slide to the OF and one of Hoerner or Madrigal could play. There are a lot of options that don't involve Heyward.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on June 03, 2022, 04:47:37 pm
Ross says that Kilian is starting tomorrow for the Cubs.
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Post by: Chris27 on June 03, 2022, 05:28:46 pm
Corey Dickerson had zero homers in more than 100 PA's before his two today.
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Post by: Deeg on June 03, 2022, 05:48:32 pm
Frazier is a far better use of PAs, IMO. Ortega probably is too because at least he still looks like a decent fourth outfielder.

Or Morel (who is at 2B today) could slide to the OF and one of Hoerner or Madrigal could play. There are a lot of options that don't involve Heyward.

Frazier is now an above-average hitter statistically, FWIW.  As I've been saying since March he should be playing more or less every day until he proves he shouldn't be - there's a good chance he'll never get back to what he was pre-concussions in NY, but the whole reason you sign a guy like that is to find out.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 03, 2022, 05:55:19 pm
Why does it matter what a guy is ranked on the day you traded for him?


Because the discussion was what you could realistically hope to get for Contreras, using last year's tank as a metric.  If PCA had never gotten hurt and was already a consensus top-50 guy you'd never have gotten him for Baez.  The Cubs took a gamble on his shoulder and so far it looks like they won.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 03, 2022, 05:57:38 pm
Since I live in "Cardinal Country" I'm blacked out when the Cubs and Cards play, but, fortunately Fox broadcasts all the Cardinal games, so I can still watch.  I've been "happy" with the broadcast team for the Cards.  They are homers but not much worse than our guys.  Jim Edmonds actually said nice things about the Cubs.  He enjoyed his brief run as a Cub and says that if he was younger and a FA he likes all the improvements to Wrigley and would seriously consider the Cubs.  Refreshing after all the years of gushing, Cub-bashing, and baiting.
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Post by: Playtwo on June 03, 2022, 07:50:40 pm
It's a lot easier to be gracious when your rival stinks.
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Post by: davep on June 04, 2022, 11:46:06 am
Because the discussion was what you could realistically hope to get for Contreras, using last year's tank as a metric.  If PCA had never gotten hurt and was already a consensus top-50 guy you'd never have gotten him for Baez.  The Cubs took a gamble on his shoulder and so far it looks like they won.

I think that is what everyone is saying.  You are not likely to get a current 50 ranked prospect for Contreras.  But you have a decent chance to get someone that WILL BE a 50 ranked prospect next year.  Possibly even two.  I would love to get the equivilent of Kilian and Canario. Or Alcantara and Vizcaino for him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on June 04, 2022, 12:22:41 pm
Cards have to face Swarmer and Kilian today.  They will be lucky to squeak out one victory.
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Post by: CurtOne on June 04, 2022, 02:38:23 pm
Schwarmer's another nice story, but is he for real?
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Post by: Ron on June 04, 2022, 03:21:29 pm
He was today.
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Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2022, 06:18:20 pm
Leadoff man Ks on 3 pitches.  Pull him now, make it a good memory for him.
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Post by: brjones on June 04, 2022, 06:20:34 pm
Nice first inning for Kilian, 2 Ks and a weak broken bat grounder by Goldschmidt. 
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Post by: JeffH on June 04, 2022, 06:21:25 pm
Well, if Kilian fails, it certainly won't be because he's short on stuff.
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Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2022, 06:22:01 pm
Two fastballs basically, 4-seamer with rise at 96-97 and 93-94 with a good bit of run.
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Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2022, 06:36:54 pm
No pressure, but does Kilian look just a bit Prior-like out there - in terms of mannerisms, delivery, even facially?
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Post by: brjones on June 04, 2022, 06:38:49 pm
He's getting very weak contact so far.
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Post by: Tuffy on June 04, 2022, 06:49:40 pm
This is my first time seeing Killian live; he is gigantic.  And he's looking pretty good; he sets Molina up with fastballs on the outside corner and then makes him chase one far outside.

Seven up and seven down for our young behemoth.
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Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2022, 06:54:32 pm
Kilian may give up 10 runs in the third, but he's for real.  The stuff is obviously legit - plays the sinker and the 4-seamer off each other well, sharp slider at 88-90 that's almost Arietta-like, mixes in the curve, haven't even seen the change yet.  He looks like a pitcher.
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Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2022, 07:10:40 pm
4 pitch walk to open the 4th.  He's a bust.
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Post by: JeffH on June 04, 2022, 07:12:54 pm
A la PCA.
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Post by: JeffH on June 04, 2022, 07:15:41 pm
It's funny how something as simple as putting a pitcher into the stretch can make a difference.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2022, 07:20:56 pm
Not sure I love spiking the curve 0-2 to Donovan with Higgins behind the plate and the bases loaded.
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Post by: JeffH on June 04, 2022, 07:21:46 pm
More reason to sign Willy.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2022, 07:23:52 pm
More reason to sign Willy.

Gomes makes that play.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on June 04, 2022, 07:25:24 pm
Well, yes.  Pretty much any "real" catcher.  With all due respect to P.J., he doesn't qualify.
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Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2022, 07:28:16 pm
Nice challenge, Javy-like tag.
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Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2022, 07:29:10 pm
Well, yes.  Pretty much any "real" catcher.  With all due respect to P.J., he doesn't qualify.

I mean, in his defense, it was a tough play - the ball bounced a good 2 feet short of the plate and well inside.  But I just don't like that pitch selection with that catcher.
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Post by: Tuffy on June 04, 2022, 07:34:01 pm
Impressed with Morel's tag that gets the Cubs out of further trouble.  Hopefully they give Kilian at least one more inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2022, 07:40:36 pm
A better manager pinch-hits for Simmons there.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 04, 2022, 07:40:54 pm
Bases loaded for Simmons but he hits into a double play to quickly end the Cubs' threat.  Thought we could get the tying runs in with Pallante tiring.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2022, 07:47:07 pm
Again, the stuff is legit.  Basically three fastballs - 4-seamer straight with maybe even a bit of cut, the sinker, and that hard cutter - and a good curve.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 04, 2022, 07:53:49 pm
No pressure, but does Kilian look just a bit Prior-like out there - in terms of mannerisms, delivery, even facially?
I see that…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 04, 2022, 07:54:49 pm
A better manager pinch-hits for Simmons there.
Agreed…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 04, 2022, 07:59:30 pm
The kid can pitch.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 04, 2022, 08:28:03 pm
Heyward singles Ortega in to bring the Cubs within a run; good comeback for him in that at-bat after making some bad swings on Verhagen's fastballs.

Ryan Helsley is coming in to pitch for the Cardinals; Cubs have runners at first and second with one out, trailing 3-2.
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Post by: Chris27 on June 04, 2022, 08:31:15 pm
I don't think Madrigal is even a 4-A player.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2022, 08:31:18 pm
The kid can pitch.

Agreed.  I like the way he mixes three fastballs all with different movement and velocity, and the curve is workable.  I think he needs the change too, but there’s time for that.  Seems to have an idea how to pitch, too.

At his age and with the Cubs tanking, no reason not to let him work on fine-tuning is game in the majors.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 04, 2022, 08:37:44 pm
Morel with a great at-bat that culminates in him lashing a double to left to bring Higgins in with the tying run.  He's pumping his fist on his way out of the batter's box.

Kilian is off the hook in his debut.

Contreras up now with the go-ahead runs in scoring position.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 04, 2022, 08:38:53 pm
Helsley blows Contreras away with fastballs and the Cubs' threat ends.

On to the seventh, tied 3-3.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on June 04, 2022, 08:52:52 pm
Love Morel's enthusiasm, but he needs to celebrate once the play's over, not when he's five feet out of the box.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2022, 08:57:50 pm
Love Morel's enthusiasm, but he needs to celebrate once the play's over, not when he's five feet out of the box.

He definitely has a lot of Javy about him.  Might just be a “take the good with the bad” thing.
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Post by: Deeg on June 04, 2022, 08:59:29 pm
Wow, Robertson in the 7th inning of a tie game?
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Post by: Tuffy on June 04, 2022, 09:05:43 pm
And he gets Goldschmidt to end the threat.  Nice.
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Post by: Tuffy on June 04, 2022, 09:10:21 pm
Easy seventh for Helsley.  On to the eighth with Robertson staying in.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 04, 2022, 09:35:10 pm
No pressure, but does Kilian look just a bit Prior-like out there - in terms of mannerisms, delivery, even facially?
He needs bowling pin calves.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 04, 2022, 09:44:03 pm
With two outs, what looks like the go-ahead run doesn't score because Sosa missed third base and had to go back.  Goldschmidt follows with an inning-ending fielder's choice to shortstop and the Cubs are out of the inning.  Robertson retired Goldy both times he faced him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 04, 2022, 09:51:56 pm
Gallegos gets the first two Cubs hitters, but Ian Happ hammers a double off the wall to bring Schwindel to the plate.

Now with the count 2-0, they walk him.  Wisdom to bat with the winning run on second.
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Post by: CurtOne on June 04, 2022, 10:00:50 pm
Hoyer on the phone to St. Louis to trade Morel for Sosa.  Sosa definitely has Cub written all over him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 04, 2022, 10:08:50 pm
Wheels coming off for the Cubs in the 10th.  Cards have a 6-3 lead, runners at first and third, still nobody out.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 04, 2022, 10:29:07 pm
Cards win 7-4 with the only hopeful moment being Heyward's double off the wall that brought home the invisible runner.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on June 05, 2022, 01:33:42 pm
Missed the game, but from the highlights, the first few clips of Killian I thought "gosh he looks like Prior."

Glad to see I'm not alone in that observation.

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Post by: dogstoothe on June 05, 2022, 06:17:26 pm
Steele out of the first on eight pitches.  That’s encouraging.
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Post by: dogstoothe on June 05, 2022, 06:33:46 pm
19 pitches thru 2 for Steele.  Impressive. One hit, a blooper by that dude, Cubs lead 1 - 0.
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Post by: dogstoothe on June 05, 2022, 06:50:26 pm
31 pitches thru 3, 2 hits a walk no runs for Steele.  The microphone on Wisdom is grating.
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Post by: dogstoothe on June 05, 2022, 07:07:43 pm
44 pitches thru 4 for Steele, no runs.  Cubs up 1 - 0.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 05, 2022, 07:25:21 pm
We need a 1Bman…
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Post by: dogstoothe on June 05, 2022, 07:30:51 pm
63 pitches thru 5 for Steele, tie game 2 - 2 bottom 5.
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Post by: dogstoothe on June 05, 2022, 07:51:44 pm
77 pitches for Steele thru 6 with the only strikeout in the game and an iffy call.  2 - 2
Bottom 6
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 05, 2022, 07:53:10 pm
Wasted challenge
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 05, 2022, 07:55:35 pm
We need a 1Bman…
  We have one.  Oh.  You mean one who can catch?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on June 05, 2022, 08:04:57 pm
Wasted challenge

I have the game on mute, what were they even challenging? He was obviously out. Did they think Molina didn't give him a lane to score?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on June 05, 2022, 08:08:21 pm
Yes.
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Post by: dogstoothe on June 05, 2022, 08:13:36 pm
94 pitches for Steele thru 7, game tied at 2 Cubs at bat bottom 7.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 05, 2022, 08:17:19 pm
I find it odd that Molina has to wait for signals from Skippy.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 05, 2022, 08:29:23 pm
Effross paints the inside black to get a strikeout on Gorman.  Great call by the umps.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on June 05, 2022, 08:35:14 pm
Effross with 14 pitches in the 8.  No damage. Steele pitched 7.  Game still tied at 2 bottom 8.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on June 05, 2022, 08:50:15 pm
The Cubs are going to put Bader and Nootbar in the HOF.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 05, 2022, 08:54:56 pm
Two doubles give the Cubs the lead, but Wick is in trouble as Bader leads off the ninth with a triple to center field.

Molina files to right and Bader can't tag up.  One out, Nootbaar coming up.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 05, 2022, 08:57:22 pm
Can’t stop Lars Nootbar, can only try to contain him (and not very well).
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 05, 2022, 09:00:20 pm
The announcers keep saying the "oo" in Nootbaar like a "u"; it's Dutch and is supposed to be a long "o", like in "Roosevelt".
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 05, 2022, 09:05:56 pm
Terrible strike three call to Morel; it was well outside.

I don't want this game going to extra innings.  Let's find a way to win it now.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on June 05, 2022, 09:08:14 pm
The zone suddenly expanded, and for a wild pitcher.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 05, 2022, 09:12:21 pm
Norris punches Goldschmidt out, and this time the pitch was actually a strike.

Arenado coming up with one out and the ghost runner on second.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 05, 2022, 09:17:51 pm
Norris' pitch movement earns him two strikeouts in a row, but the second one gets away from Contreras... who alertly grabs it and throws to Rivas at first to get the out.  Another fraction of a second and the batter would have beaten it out and Edman would have scored.

On to the bottom of the tenth.  Let's just start and end things with a run-scoring leadoff single.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 05, 2022, 09:25:17 pm
Frazier gets fooled on a change-up and now there are two outs.  The winning run is 90 feet away. And they walk Wisdom to get to Higgins.

Wisdom takes second uncontested.

And Higgins hits a comebacker to the mound to end the inning.

Have to hold them somehow in the 11th.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on June 05, 2022, 09:27:32 pm
Forgot completely about the ghost runner at second.  We might just win this one and take a three out of five rubber game of the series. PJ Higgins grounds out to end the inning. Going to inning eleven tied at three.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 05, 2022, 09:28:05 pm
Norris is staying in.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on June 05, 2022, 09:42:07 pm
Seriously, this Nootbaar thing is embarrassing.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 05, 2022, 09:53:38 pm
Heyward swings at a terrible pitch for the second out in the bottom half.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on June 05, 2022, 09:57:31 pm
That game shows the difference between a good team and a bad one.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 05, 2022, 10:08:39 pm
I saw someone on Twitter refer to the ghost runner in extras as the “Manfred Man”, and I can’t stop laughing at it…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 05, 2022, 10:28:53 pm
The Cardinal announcers were calling the ghost runner that.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 06, 2022, 12:04:25 am
I can't wait until the Manfred Man is gone from the game.  I can accept the DH and 7-inning doubleheaders and three-batter minimums before that garbage.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 07, 2022, 07:09:44 pm
I thought we had a little bit of a running game for a few games there, but now it’s non-existent…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 08, 2022, 05:49:00 pm
If this front office had any sack at all they’d rip the Heyward option out of Ross’ hands yesterday.  What a fucklng joke.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 08, 2022, 06:18:22 pm
I don’t know why Ross is intentionally tormenting Deeg like this with his lineups in Baltimore.

Very unbecoming for a seemingly nice guy like Ross.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 08, 2022, 06:32:52 pm
Even Bert at BN has left Reb behind on the fearless Heyward devotion.  Shilling really is a full-time job when you’re this dedicated.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 08, 2022, 06:41:04 pm
Hey, I’m not the guy filling out the lineup card. As I said already, it’s unbecoming of Ross to torment you personally with these lineups. So mean of him!

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 08, 2022, 08:30:28 pm
Hopefully Heyward is DFA’d before they make up this game (if they do).
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 08, 2022, 08:52:28 pm
Makeup date for tonight’s rainout is August 18.

Good grief, that’s over two months away!

If Heyward is still on the club by then, Ross has promised to send Deeg a roast tongue sandwich from Boog’s Barbecue, with Boog’s special hot sauce on the side.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 08, 2022, 11:04:06 pm
Gettin’ lonely out on that limb, Jes?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brs2 on June 09, 2022, 11:07:08 pm
Will be at tomorrow night’s game at Yankee Stadium (so glad they have not sold naming rights). Bittersweet to see Rizzo in Yankee pinstripes.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 10, 2022, 12:45:30 am
Even Bert at BN has left Reb behind on the fearless Heyward devotion.  Shilling really is a full-time job when you’re this dedicated.

No clue what that means, other than taking into account the usual Deeg schtick without any supporting facts.

So, just before opening day I said “still feel that Cubs will not release Heyward at this point.”  That turned out to be true. He was here opening day.

Try and find anything more “positive” that I’ve said this year about Heyward. Even then, was talking about what Cubs would do, and not assessing Heyward.

Everybody says basically the same thing about Heyward: his Cubs contract performance has been a big disappointment; his contract is a factor as to why he’s still here; he’s a gentleman and great teammate; he’s had a nice career overall (39.1 career bWAR).

Cubs will be making position player roster moves soon with Suzuki, Villar, and maybe Bote at some point.

What to do with Heyward is something Cubs will have to consider.

Morel is here to stay for the foreseeable future. Rivas would seem to be a likely option. Frazier has an option and has done basically nothing and Ross seems unenthusiastic about playing him——that might change with Cubs at Yankee Stadium, we’ll see. Madrigal is not hitting and has an option. Simmons never drives the ball and not outside realm of possibility Cubs could make a move with him.

If Cubs option Madrigal, Morel probably will play more 2B than he is now and Ross figures to stay with Heyward. Or, maybe Cubs will be patient with Madrigal. Think that Heyward is more vulnerable to a move now than he was for opening day roster, but guessing that Cubs not ready to cut bait with him. Maybe they are, we’ll see.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 10, 2022, 01:39:46 am
You tell em, Jes.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on June 10, 2022, 10:37:09 am
If we had a good competitive team, I expect I'd feel: "if only we didn't have auto-out Heyward, and had somebody even average in that spot.  Or if only we had his money to have spent on somebody good, this team might have been a champion.  It's Heyward's failure deal that's bringing us down."

But the Cubs being so bad, I don't think keeping or playing Heyward with his bad contract is nearly so upsetting.  We'll stink either way, it's not like he's the singular guy bringing us down.  Heyward's crummyness doesn't really change much.  And it's not like his AB's are blocking some fascinating, exciting prospect.  Hermosillo?  Who cares? 

That said, as a general rule, I don't see logic in keeping a player due to contract.  If you've got a bad player on a bad contract, all it does is provoke the fans every time through the order that he goes up and makes his auto-out.  Is management doing themselves some PR favor to to remind the fans four times per game that they're paying a terrible contract?  As a PR move, it would be better to cut the bad contract, forget about it, let the fans forget about it, and move on. 

Financially, keeping a sunk-cost makes only $700K of minimum-wage difference.

So, I'm kinda guessing that HOyer/Ross keep Heyward as long as they think he makes baseball sense for whatever reasons. 
*Given Theo/Hoyer's failed job at developing/acquiring even semi-interesting outfield possibilities, maybe Hoyer/Ross will continue to think the alternatives are even more hapless than Heyward?
*But as reb notes, perhaps Hoyer might perhaps finally be close to pulling the plug on this? 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 10, 2022, 10:39:49 am
Every AB that Heyward takes is an AB that could be going to Frazier.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on June 10, 2022, 11:11:00 am
It seems to me that Madrigal needs to go to Iowa and work on his hitting.  I would be fine with releasing Heyward, giving Frazier (or whomever) a chance to prove their worth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on June 11, 2022, 07:51:18 pm
Swarmer looks like a good batting practice pitcher.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 11, 2022, 09:34:12 pm
If there's one good thing about the DH, it's that we can give up eight runs but only use two pitchers, like it's the 1930s again.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 12, 2022, 06:27:57 am
Keegan Thompson is pitching tonight and is 6-1; he has more than a quarter of the team's wins.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on June 12, 2022, 02:38:09 pm
I haven't been watching, but I'm a little worried about Thompson's arm health.  His results went bad last year shortly before he went on the IL.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on June 12, 2022, 03:22:03 pm
It's amazing. Carpenter kills the Cubs even in another uni.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 12, 2022, 03:47:33 pm
We should let Heyward pitch the 8th…maybe find some value there…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dev on June 13, 2022, 12:25:17 pm
 I was at the Yankme /Cubs game on Sunday...several times teh Cubs had 1st and 2nd and less that 2 out...but the next guys couldn't do anything...a lineup of fill ins and stop gaps...if it wasn't for the free ticket and free food I would be angry...the gummies helped too.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on June 13, 2022, 12:41:06 pm
The weekend helped to get our run differential in line with our actual record, I guess? 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on June 13, 2022, 03:17:36 pm
Umpires for #Padres (37-24) at #Cubs (23-36):
Stu Scheurwater, CB Bucknor, Brian Knight, Erich Bacchus
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 13, 2022, 05:21:26 pm
The weekend helped to get our run differential in line with our actual record, I guess?

Cubs record now within two games of Pythag.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 13, 2022, 09:58:42 pm
Justin Steele is keeping up with Darvish pretty well tonight; 1-1 tie heading to the sixth inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 13, 2022, 10:21:16 pm
Steele is through the seventh; still 1-1.

If there's a good thing about the DH, it's that it lets these kinds of pitchers go deeper into games and build confidence.  Ross would surely have hit for him earlier if he were batting.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 13, 2022, 10:29:41 pm
Rowan Wick is in to pitch the eighth; Steele's day is done: 7 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K.   
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 13, 2022, 11:05:34 pm
Wick walks Profar and he comes around to score on a succession of hits.  4-1 Padres.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 13, 2022, 11:24:33 pm
Padres win; Taylor Rogers relieves Darvish in the ninth and shuts the Cubs down.

Feels like we'll never win another game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on June 14, 2022, 12:16:45 am
Padres win; Taylor Rogers relieves Darvish in the ninth and shuts the Cubs down.

Feels like we'll never win another game.
The Cubs are now back on track to lose 100 games.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 14, 2022, 09:20:15 am
More than the losses, I worry about the performances of some of our trade candidates as well as the collapse of both Keegan and Rowan.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 14, 2022, 08:02:02 pm
Sign him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 14, 2022, 08:18:43 pm
Heyward just looked completely helpless against Manaea with 1 out and a runner on 3rd.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 14, 2022, 08:50:50 pm
Heyward just looked completely helpless against Manaea with 1 out and a runner on 3rd.

Did you really need to finish that sentence?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 14, 2022, 09:20:13 pm
Hendricks is removed with a single baserunner in the sixth, and everything falls apart after that.  Norris and Effross allow four runs to score, and the Padres are threatening to take the lead now with two on and nobody out in the seventh.

It feels like Hendricks gets quick-hooked over and over.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 14, 2022, 10:09:18 pm
With the Padres having made a joke of the game, leading 10-5, Eric Stout makes his Cubs debut.  Grew up a Cubs fan and probably deserves a better Cubs team to play for.

He gives up a run and is staying in for the ninth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 14, 2022, 10:52:09 pm
Hendricks is removed with a single baserunner in the sixth, and everything falls apart after that.  Norris and Effross allow four runs to score, and the Padres are threatening to take the lead now with two on and nobody out in the seventh.

It feels like Hendricks gets quick-hooked over and over.

Starting with game 7 of the World Series.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 14, 2022, 11:29:13 pm
Morel’s BA has dropped 34 points in 4 days, and his OPS 102 points.  The power of small sample sizes.

The league is adjusting, and he’s facing his first real adversity in the bigs.  He looks like a player and his glove is clearly a big asset, but how he deals with this is his first real test.  Four rough games is no big deal - if it stretches to a couple of weeks that would raise more serious concerns about whether he’s truly ready.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 15, 2022, 10:21:08 pm
There have been six half-innings in which runs were scored so far in today's game, and each has had a different number of runs: the Padres getting 2, 3, 6, and 5, and the Cubs getting 4 and 1.  So even if we extend this with a 7-run inning, we'll still be losing.  We need a 7-run inning plus an 8-run inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on June 16, 2022, 01:34:48 pm
If you can't find it at Binny's has moved to the top of the list of commercials that have become more than a little irritating.

Cubs lead 1-0 on a Morel leadoff homer to right center.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 16, 2022, 02:00:02 pm
"Baby, baby, it's a wild world" is starting to annoy me.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 16, 2022, 02:46:37 pm
Anyone else remember about a month ago or so, these guys were kinda fun to watch?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 16, 2022, 02:54:46 pm
Is it Effross or F U Ross?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 16, 2022, 02:56:15 pm
If Heyward can get on, Simmons can tie this up.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 16, 2022, 02:57:06 pm
Nevermind
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on June 16, 2022, 02:58:04 pm
I doubt Musgrove is going to make it to free agency.  As Boog and JD were just saying, he loves being there and the team loves having him. So I think they will figure out an agreement before he's on the open market.

But if he does reach free agency, he's the top guy the Cubs should target this offseason.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 16, 2022, 03:05:00 pm
At least Ross, when it comes to pitchers, doesn't have to find the one that sucks.  They all do.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on June 16, 2022, 03:40:42 pm
Anyone else remember about a month ago or so, these guys were kinda fun to watch?

I remember the first week of the season when Suzuki was hot the team was fun to watch.  I rapidly lost interest after that.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on June 16, 2022, 03:46:59 pm
If you have Joe Musgrove on your fantasy team, today's game has been fun in a different way.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 16, 2022, 04:41:58 pm
Anyone else remember about a month ago or so, these guys were kinda fun to watch?

No
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 16, 2022, 04:57:21 pm
Christopher Kamka
@ckamka
·
26m
Over their last 150 games, the Cubs have losing streaks of 11, 12 and 10 games.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 16, 2022, 05:16:06 pm
Jordan Bastian
@MLBastian
 · 48m
Per historian Ed Hartig, the Cubs’ -49 run differential is a franchise-record low across back-to-back series. First time Cubs have at least a -20 RD in back-to-back series since 1879.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on June 16, 2022, 05:31:13 pm
It would figure a lottery would be instituted the year the Cubs are bad enough to earn the top pick.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 16, 2022, 06:01:53 pm
I’m fine with that.  Teams shouldn’t be rewarded for tanking, whether it’s the Cubs or anyone else.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 16, 2022, 06:11:19 pm
I enjoy watching the new Daily Double…Morel and Contreras.

Too bad it won’t last much longer…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 17, 2022, 03:06:56 am
Serious streaks on the line this weekend.

Braves have won 14 in a row.

Cubs have lost 10 in a row.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on June 17, 2022, 02:19:28 pm
Boog has called the Cubs "the Braves" at least twice so far today.  I think JD needs to reach over and reboot him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on June 17, 2022, 02:37:34 pm
It really shouldn't be that difficult to distinguish the Cubs from the Braves.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 17, 2022, 02:41:38 pm
He got confused by the anthem.  This is the Home of the Braves.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 17, 2022, 02:41:57 pm
Looks like Keegan is okay on two weeks rest.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 17, 2022, 03:05:04 pm
Looks like Keegan is okay on two weeks rest.

??

Last pitched his regular turn on 6/12.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 17, 2022, 03:07:20 pm
Sarcasm, Reb.  He got shelled early his last two starts.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 17, 2022, 03:18:57 pm
Okay. Ha Ha.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 17, 2022, 04:49:43 pm
Serious streaks on the line this weekend.

Braves have won 14 in a row.

Cubs have lost 10 in a row.

Naturally, Cubs win.

That’s Baseball!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 17, 2022, 05:51:59 pm
I hope they trade Robertson sooner rather than later.  His value can only go down.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on June 17, 2022, 06:52:55 pm
The Chicago Cubs became the first team in 23 years to stop a losing streak of 10 or more game while ending an opponent's winning streak of at least 10 games, beating the Braves 1-0 Friday to halt the Braves' 14-game run.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 17, 2022, 10:59:30 pm
Cubs with a really nice Small Ball 8th inning today that won the ballgame.

Villar with a well earned BB on 3-2 count after a lengthy AB, Simmons with a well executed sac bunt (a situation where the bunt is clearly the best strategy), Villar steals third with one out, and Morel sac fly to short/medium CF that likely only a relatively fast runner like Villar can score on. 

Well done.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 18, 2022, 02:35:50 pm
Sign him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 18, 2022, 03:06:49 pm
Sign him.
Dave, I've totally lost confidence in Hoyer to rework this team.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on June 20, 2022, 06:47:40 pm
Villar is killing Killlian this inning. Missed a pop up in foul territory that led to a walk and the booted an easy grounded. Bases loaded no outs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on June 20, 2022, 06:49:37 pm
Two horrible plays by Villar, one an error and another a foul pop up that should have been caught.

Time for the Cubs to move Morel to second base, if they keep him in the majors.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 20, 2022, 07:01:17 pm
The Brewers DFAed Cain the other day.  Time for both Villar and Heyward?  Villar would get claimed by somebody.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 20, 2022, 07:25:10 pm
Morel is going back to Iowa when Seiya comes back. Can't take ABs away from Heyward.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on June 20, 2022, 07:26:54 pm
Not often you see 7 runs on 3 hits.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on June 20, 2022, 07:31:43 pm
The Brewers DFAed Cain the other day.  Time for both Villar and Heyward?  Villar would get claimed by somebody.

It’s sad that as horrible as Simmons is he just gets forgotten is the mess that is the Cubs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 20, 2022, 07:44:52 pm


Meghan Montemurro
@M_Montemurro
Expect to see Nelson Velázquez used off the bench and pinch hit for #Cubs. He could get starts vs. LHP too.

Ross said Velázquez will be used in a role similar to how Clint Frazier was while he was on the roster.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on June 20, 2022, 07:55:56 pm
Heyward vs righties

.202/.288/.303 this year.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 20, 2022, 09:14:57 pm
Cubs three pitchers tonight have a season ERA, respectively, of 10.32 (Kilian) 8.59 (Mills) 7.62 (Norris).
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ben on June 20, 2022, 09:33:10 pm
Wondering what Kilian's control problems are about (e.g. trying to be too fine? just out of whack? arm problems?)

For anyone who saw him pitch tonight on tv or live, might you have a theory as to the cause of his control issues are?

Has anyone heard anything suggested (by Ross or Hottovy or other) as to the cause of his control problems?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on June 20, 2022, 09:40:05 pm
From Meghan Montemurro

Before game, Ross indicated focus between starts for Kilian was "cleaning up the consistency of his mechanics" to where rookie could feel he's able to move the ball in and out as he wants.

"We got to give this kid a little bit of runway before we start changing too many things."
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 20, 2022, 09:49:56 pm
Heyward vs righties

.202/.288/.303 this year.

Playing Heyward is that rare two-bagger that proves you’re not serious about winning and you’re not serious about developing.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 20, 2022, 10:07:50 pm
It's not just Heyward.

Cubs have FIVE position players who are BELOW replacement level this season (Heyward, Simmons, Schwindel, Rivas, Villar).  This doesn't count Hermosillo, who probably won't be back on active roster.  Also does not include Madrigal, who is 0.0 bWAR and, therefore, at (but not below) replacement level.

Indeed, Cubs only have three position players who have more than 0.7 bWAR this season and we're just two weeks away from halfway point of the season. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 20, 2022, 11:03:33 pm
Too bad there's no bWAR for General Managers...
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 20, 2022, 11:12:56 pm
Too bad there's no bWAR for General Managers...

And field managers.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 20, 2022, 11:22:17 pm
Killian would have been better off with the Texas A&M defense behind him tonight.  That was horrible.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on June 21, 2022, 12:50:21 am
Wondering what Kilian's control problems are about (e.g. trying to be too fine? just out of whack? arm problems?)

For anyone who saw him pitch tonight on tv or live, might you have a theory as to the cause of his control issues are?

Has anyone heard anything suggested (by Ross or Hottovy or other) as to the cause of his control problems?
My only view of Killian being successful was in the 2021 AFL title game where a pitch clock was in use.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 21, 2022, 07:08:49 am
Cruz threw a ball 96.7 MPH to first in that game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 21, 2022, 07:43:31 pm
I think we can safely say Swarmer has turned back into a pumpkin at this point.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on June 22, 2022, 07:05:14 pm
Villar is brutal.  Get well soon, Nicky.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 22, 2022, 07:12:24 pm
Staked to a 7-1 lead, Keegan does a nice job getting out of a Villar-error-induced jam with a strikeout and flyout.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 22, 2022, 07:29:49 pm
Wisdom hits a two-run homer to make it 9-1.  Save some runs for tomorrow!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 22, 2022, 07:52:38 pm
Villar redeems himself with a triple and comes around to score on a sacrifice fly, making it 10-1.

Thompson is through five; a good outing so far.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 22, 2022, 08:55:21 pm
You've got to feel for Pirates second baseman Diego Castillo.  Brought in to pitch the ninth with his team down 10-1, he struggles to find the plate, walking two and hitting another with a pitch.  With two outs, he finally gives up a hit -- and the hit is a homer just inside the foul pole from Rivas, making the score 14-1.

ERAs as of this moment for today's Pirate pitchers: Eickhoff 20.77, De Jong 1.67, and Castillo 43.20.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 22, 2022, 09:05:47 pm
Robertson's spot in the lineup comes up, and he takes the at-bat even though he is removed from the game in the bottom half.

He runs the count full against Castillo, who has dropped from the 50s and 60s to 40 MPH, but strikes out on a 50-MPH slider to end it.

When does a team have to decide that a pitcher is in the lineup and not the DH?  Can they choose to have him hit any time his spot comes up, removing the DH?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 22, 2022, 09:17:14 pm
Two Higgins errors set up four unearned runs against Norris in the ninth, but the Cubs hang on to win 14-5.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on June 23, 2022, 05:42:46 pm
It's very strange that nothing has been said about this first inning event.

https://ontapsportsnet.com/2022/06/23/cubs-pirates-delay-trainers-bullpen-unclear-situation/
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 23, 2022, 07:24:13 pm
David Ross mentioned that it was Chris Young in his postgame…I assume it was heat-related…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on June 24, 2022, 12:24:42 am
https://www.marqueesportsnetwork.com/cubs-bullpen-coach-chris-young-hospitalized-during-thursdays-game/
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 24, 2022, 09:52:49 am
I feel faint whenever I see Villar in the lineup too.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ben on June 24, 2022, 10:33:27 pm
It was really GREAT to see Kyle slam the door on the Birds tonight! (as well as Hoerner hitting the game's only long ball, a 2-run shot)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on June 26, 2022, 06:47:20 pm
The season is a success.  The Cubs beat the Cards 2 out of 3 in St. Louis.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on June 26, 2022, 10:42:04 pm
I hope we trade Robertson soon.  He's had a couple of shaky outings and we can get more now early in the season when he's healthy.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on June 26, 2022, 11:01:44 pm
The sooner the better.  Happ too, if he’s going.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 29, 2022, 09:12:34 pm
Steele gives up a run with no outs in the sixth, at just 84 pitches, and is lifted in favor of Effross.

I would have liked to see Ross keep Steele in and let him work himself out of trouble more deeply into the game.

Still, Cubs lead 5-1 and are threatening to get more in the bottom half of the sixth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 29, 2022, 09:15:23 pm
The Cubs do get more; Morel hits a homer to deep left-center field and Bote, who had doubled, comes in to score with him; 7-1.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 29, 2022, 11:00:35 pm
Swarmer comes in for the last two innings and allows two runs, but the Cubs win easily, 8-3.

I'm looking at the highlight where Contreras catches the throw from the outfield and swings his arm around to tag Pham in the back before he can reach home plate.  Nice play.  We have to extend this guy!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ben on June 30, 2022, 07:48:05 am
It sure feels like we should have already found a way to extend Contreras - about a year ago.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 30, 2022, 09:18:50 pm
Wisdom is having a huge day -- a grand slam to open up a tight game early on, and now another homer to give the Cubs the same 8-3 lead that they won with yesterday.

Hendricks is through six at 94 pitches.  I'd like to see him pitch the next inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on June 30, 2022, 09:36:57 pm
Wisdom is having a huge day -- a grand slam to open up a tight game early on, and now another homer to give the Cubs the same 8-3 lead that they won with yesterday.

Hendricks is through six at 94 pitches.  I'd like to see him pitch the next inning.

And Wisdom with a SB as well.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 30, 2022, 09:39:49 pm
Wisdom now slugging .475.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on June 30, 2022, 10:38:50 pm
Morel with the first 5 hit game out of the 9 hole for the Cubs since Vic Aldridge in 1922…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on June 30, 2022, 10:54:41 pm
Narciso Crook, a name I had never seen until today, came in for Ortega halfway through and seems to have gotten his first-ever ML hits and scored his first ML run.  He took Villar's old #24 and is doing it proud.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on June 30, 2022, 11:11:20 pm
40 total bases for Cubs tonight.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on June 30, 2022, 11:15:52 pm
40 total bases for Cubs tonight.

Thank goodness for the Reds.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ben on July 01, 2022, 07:47:42 am
Building on Dave's comment (Morel with 1st 5-hit game out of the 9-hole since Vic Aldridge in 1922), here's a Vic Aldridge story.

I grew up in Terre Haute, IN and my Dad was close friends with Vic Aldridge Jr., a very esteemed attorney in our town.

My Dad said Vic Jr. was a truly outstanding player in his youth (and in college).  My Dad said Vic Jr. could have played MLB like his Dad, who was also a pitcher and won a couple of World Series games.

One day many decades ago, I asked Vic Jr. why he didn't try to go on to professional baseball as his Dad had done. 

Vic Jr. said, "Because I saw my Dad live a very sad life after he left baseball.  Nothing could ever come close to what his life was like when he played professional baseball.  All he ever talked about was was from his playing days and pitching in the World Series."

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 01, 2022, 12:56:25 pm
By the way, Vic Aldridge was part of a huge trade after 1924 season, going to Pirates with George Grantham (32 career WAR, mostly after the trade) for Charlie Grimm (10 year Cubs regular and multi-time manager), future HOFer Rabbit Maranville, and late career Wilbur Cooper (52 career WAR).
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 01, 2022, 02:17:59 pm
I wonder if Rich Hill got any kind of nice reception or anything when he took the field today...

Wonder what percentage of fans at the game today have any recollection of his Cubs days, or even know that he was once a Cub?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 01, 2022, 02:19:27 pm
And, speaking of Rich Hill...

It was mentioned during one of the Reds games the other night that Rich Hill is the active record holder for most teams having played for, with 11.

Who is 2nd, with 10 teams?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on July 01, 2022, 02:57:11 pm
Edwin Jackson?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 01, 2022, 03:41:54 pm
Active players
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 01, 2022, 03:43:03 pm
Hint…”during one of the Reds games”…

I never would have guessed it…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on July 01, 2022, 04:56:20 pm
Cubs win, Cubs win!  Robertson is fun.  Martin is in a pretty good groove, too.  A lot of contenders could use either one of those guys. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on July 01, 2022, 05:02:01 pm
Hint…”during one of the Reds games”…

I never would have guessed it…

Nor I.  For a "failed draft pick", he sure has played in the big leagues for a long time.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ben on July 01, 2022, 05:19:16 pm
50+ years ago, a lot of sluggers (e.g. Banks, Aaron) were said to be "wrist hitters," in that they had very strong wrists and snapped them hard through the hitting zone (not before the ball arrived, but "through the ball").   When they hit foul line drives down the LF line, the ball could hook 40'!

When he squares the ball up, Christopher Morel reminds me of those guys.  When hits pitches solidly, he just demolishes the baseball!  Pound for pound, he might hit the longest HRs in MLB!

Who knows where he goes from here - and whether MLB adjustments will send him back down for a while - but so far Morel really looks like he could be a special player!

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on July 01, 2022, 05:40:56 pm
And he plays with so much joy. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on July 01, 2022, 05:50:03 pm
Cubs win, Cubs win!  Robertson is fun.  Martin is in a pretty good groove, too.  A lot of contenders could use either one of those guys. 
Martin is one of those guys who will suffer immensely when MLB finally puts in a pitch clock.  Like John Lackey, he usually rubs up the ball after each pitch even though it is not a new ball.  Walking down off the mound to get the ball back from the catcher (like Carlos Zambrano) eats up time too.  He also needs a cap that fits so he doesn't have to adjust it so often.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on July 02, 2022, 06:53:12 pm
Alec Mills leaves after only seven pitches with what looked like a lower back problem.   Leiter got unlimited time to warm up and Fox took advantage of that to show a long string of commercials.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on July 02, 2022, 07:34:39 pm
Leiter looking... extraordinary.

I really don't know anything about him. Is this another guy our pitch lab is polishing up into something useful? This BoSox lineup is fierce and has been on a monster of a hot streak, but he's just carving them up nonchalantly.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on July 02, 2022, 07:37:46 pm
Leiter's exceptional.  You should drop Gonsolin for him at BBFL.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on July 02, 2022, 07:39:35 pm
I was thinking about dropping Alcantara, but maybe Gonsolin is the better guy to cut
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on July 02, 2022, 07:44:38 pm
Did Ross have Morel sacrificing there?  And, if so, why?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on July 02, 2022, 07:45:03 pm
Really hope not. Very confusing plate appearance there for Morel.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 02, 2022, 08:03:53 pm
Great job by Leiter and Givens to prevent a big Boston inning -- with first and third and nobody out, Leiter induces a comebacker with which he starts a double play while a run scores, and Givens comes in to get a fly ball to end the inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 02, 2022, 08:13:53 pm
Winchowski strands another infield-hit baserunner, aided by a terrible strike-three call on an outside pitch, and the Cubs fail to score in the sixth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on July 02, 2022, 08:36:53 pm
Did Ross have Morel sacrificing there?  And, if so, why?

The Occam’s Razor answer is not a happy one.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 02, 2022, 09:01:00 pm
Durant leads off the ninth with a double to the left field corner and takes third on indifference as Robertson strikes out two hitters in a row.  One to go.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on July 02, 2022, 09:07:13 pm
Cubs win, Cubs win!  Winning is fun!  They've been getting some good and engaged crowds lately. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on July 02, 2022, 11:01:04 pm
The Cubs' slogan this year has been "It's different here." Tonight's losing pitcher doesn't agree, and he's right. A historic ballpark doesn't make up for ownership who hasn't cared if the Cubs win or lose for the last 4 years. The Red Sox try to win every year, that's why he thinks Fenway is better.

Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo
Josh Winckowski on Wrigley Field:

“A little underwhelming. Fenway has a presence to it. I really didn’t get that here, to be honest. I said to my mom last night, this place is very stock standard.”
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 03, 2022, 01:56:41 am
LOL. Winckowski is going to like Wrigley even less if Sox get swept on Sunday!

That’s just a young man upset because he got beat tonight in a game they expected to win.

Don’t take that seriously.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on July 03, 2022, 05:33:48 pm
I love Morel but the kangaroo court needs to fine him for not having sun glasses on that popup.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on July 04, 2022, 06:39:18 pm
Suzuki hits an inside-the-park homer off Hader to take the lead in the 9th, but the Cubs manage to give that back on a bases loaded walk.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on July 04, 2022, 06:42:15 pm
And a 3-run homer by Caratini of all people ends it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on July 04, 2022, 06:54:33 pm
Caratini has struck out all four of his times up before that homer.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on July 04, 2022, 07:00:01 pm
Hanging onto Robertson can only decrease his value.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ben on July 05, 2022, 07:02:14 pm
Nico Hoerner has been on a heater, so glad he's hitting 2nd tonight.  Not sure it will work, but it makes sense. 


Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on July 05, 2022, 08:34:35 pm
Hendricks removed after 3 innings.  Any injury or story there? 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on July 05, 2022, 08:45:16 pm
Seiya is good.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 05, 2022, 10:10:43 pm
Hendricks removed after 3 innings.  Any injury or story there?


Meghan Montemurro
@M_Montemurro

Kyle Hendricks exited tonight's game with right shoulder soreness
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on July 05, 2022, 10:30:11 pm
Yikes. 

I'm kinda thinking at one point that Hoyer might have envisioned the following 6 pitchers to be his top six rotation guys:
Hendricks
Stroman
Alzolay
Miley
Smiley
Mills. 

This roster was never built to excel.  But it might not have lost as many if five of the front six pitchers weren't all hurt, and now perhaps Hendricks too. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on July 05, 2022, 11:16:48 pm
Our deadline flips are dropping like flies.  Trade Robertson now.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 05, 2022, 11:45:18 pm
A bit more on Hendricks:

Cubs manager David Ross pulled Hendricks from Tuesday's start against the Brewers after the veteran righty logged 69 pitches in three innings. Hendricks left with what the team announced as shoulder soreness, which is similar to an issue he dealt with at the start of June. In that instance, Hendricks took 12 days off before returning to the rotation. The pitcher said the next step will be to undergo an MRI exam in the coming days to try to get to the bottom of the ailment.

"Went out for the first warm-up of the game and kind of felt it," said Hendricks, who has a 4.80 ERA through 16 starts this season. "And it just set in from there. Rossy knows me. So, he knew. He could see it. There was no point in pushing. It's not something that's so bad that's going to get out of control. It's just not great. It's something we definitely want to get checked out and see what it's all about." -- Jordan Bastian
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 06, 2022, 07:22:39 am
“There was no point in pushing” and “69 pitches in 3 innings” are pretty contradictory, in my opinion…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on July 08, 2022, 10:01:43 pm
Not only is Rick Sutcliffe absolutely an objectively terrible broadcaster, he’s also just gross, talking about hitting Betts last night and “teaching him a lesson.”
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on July 08, 2022, 11:03:58 pm
Morel steps to the plate in the 6th having gone 0-2 with 2Ks in his first 2 ABs. There’s a runner on 1st, no outs. The starter has given him fits.

On the first pitch, Morel drops a *perfect* bunt *against* the shift, and ends up with a single, the runner advancing to 2nd.

It was definitely a bunt-for-a-hit attempt, not a sacrifice the defense botched. Whether the call came from the dugout or Morel made the decision on his own, I thought it was an incredibly smart play, given Morel’s speed and athleticism; and if he can execute it like that regularly, it’s such a great weapon against the shift.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 08, 2022, 11:05:10 pm
I really like Sutcliffe on the broadcast on a spot basis.

Would not want him as a regular for 140 games but a lot of really good stuff with him along with the excesses at times.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on July 08, 2022, 11:59:25 pm
Unfortunately Robertson's value is taking a bit of a hit lately.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 09, 2022, 12:56:15 am
Are you seeing much trade action pertaining to the other 29 teams?

It’s just a reality that things, generally, don’t heat up until closer to the trade deadline. Applies to Cubs like everybody else.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 09, 2022, 01:02:52 am
Unfortunately Robertson's value is taking a bit of a hit lately.

Robertson has allowed two earned runs in his last seven outings, including tonight.

He didn’t command his stuff well tonight. If that continues, then, yes, his value will take a hit. But, at this point, not a problem.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on July 09, 2022, 02:06:12 am
Jes has spoken.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 10, 2022, 03:35:04 pm
PJ Higgins with a 1st inning grand slam off Julio Urias…5-0 going to the bottom of the 1st…

Urias threw 45 pitches in the 1st…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 12, 2022, 11:31:24 pm
Baltimore gets back to .500 by defeating our team.  And to think they were a laughingstock not long ago.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on July 12, 2022, 11:54:10 pm
Baltimore gets back to .500 by defeating our team.  And to think they were a laughingstock not long ago.
No, Tuffy, the Cubs are still a laughingstock.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on July 13, 2022, 01:22:56 am
It’s only been 6 years since the Orioles started their rebuild, so there’s hope for us yet.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on July 15, 2022, 12:52:21 pm
Today's Cubs-Mets game at Wrigley Field has been postponed due to inclement weather.

The makeup game is scheduled for tomorrow, July 16, at 7:05 p.m. CDT as the second game of a split doubleheader, following the originally scheduled 1:20 p.m. game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on July 16, 2022, 03:41:25 pm
Rowan Wick looks good today.  Figures.  I dropped him in fantasy.  You are ALL welcome.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on July 16, 2022, 06:53:30 pm
Quote from: ESPN
Cubs manager David Ross was ejected by umpire Ramon De Jesus after the second inning. Each side had issues with De Jesus' strike zone at various points.

Ross also was ejected from the series opener. Friday afternoon's game was postponed by rain, leading to the doubleheader.

There were two balls to Higgy that were balls, and I was just saying, 'Hey, that should have been 2-0," Ross said. He threw me out. I didnt cuss or didnt say anything derogatory. I dont know if it was a carryover from the other day, getting ejected.
Ramon DeJesus was pretty inconsistent but David Ross' frustration with the losing streak is starting to show.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 16, 2022, 07:04:58 pm
Didn’t care for the decision in 10th inning to bypass Rivas as a pinch hitter and let Higgins bat against Ottavino—who was in top form today and has huge lefty/righty splits.

Rivas was coming in game in any case to replace the pinched-run-for Schwindel.  And Bote available on bench to play 3B. Gomes on bench too.

Rivas has way better chance to put ball in play, with winning run on third, one out, and infield playing in. Higgins was overmatched against that slider.

Wonder if Ross or Green made that decision.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on July 16, 2022, 07:14:16 pm
Hoyer...everything is Hoyer's fault.  Get used to it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 17, 2022, 01:59:24 pm
Keep hitting ground balls, guys! I’m sure they won’t all be double plays…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on July 17, 2022, 02:05:55 pm
Don't be too sure.  It seems to be a definate skill set.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 17, 2022, 02:45:14 pm
See? Sometimes you reach on an E5 when it should have been another easy double play…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 17, 2022, 03:10:17 pm
I’m sure Frank the Tank is a great guy, but I’m ready to see anyone else at 1B…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 17, 2022, 03:50:41 pm
Yeah, he’s primarily responsible for both Mets runs. On the first run, Schwindel has to make a quicker throw to Hoerner—who has the play in front of him and can deal with the runner from 3B if Hoerner got the ball quickly.

Schwindel and Rivas have been a killer at 1B. At least Rivas can catch the ball.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on July 17, 2022, 03:58:50 pm
I'm sure that most here don't remember the '62 Mets.  Davep, me, Reb, Bennett, Ben probably do.  They were pathetic.  Marv Throneberry, the first baseman, had a birthday.  Casey Stengel, the manager, said, "We were going to get you a cake, but we were afraid you'd drop it."  I'm mentioning this because the Cubs lately remind me very much of the '62 Mets.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on July 17, 2022, 05:17:44 pm
I’m sure Frank the Tank is a great guy, but I’m ready to see anyone else at 1B…
His schwing seems to be coming around.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on July 17, 2022, 07:48:35 pm
I'm sure that most here don't remember the '62 Mets.  Davep, me, Reb, Bennett, Ben probably do.  They were pathetic.  Marv Throneberry, the first baseman, had a birthday.  Casey Stengel, the manager, said, "We were going to get you a cake, but we were afraid you'd drop it."  I'm mentioning this because the Cubs lately remind me very much of the '62 Mets.

One of several things that have dissapointed me this year has been the Cubs defense.  When your pitching staff is marginal at best, you have to play great defense to have the slightest chance.  Hoerner, Suzuki and Contreras have been good, Happ better than he has been, but Wisdom has been inconstant, while Villar and Schwindel have been consistantly bad.

Morel is talented but raw, and is lacking the natural defensive instincts of a Baez.  He needs to be playing at one position every day, perhaps in the minors.  Ortega is turning out to be a decent offense-first center fielder, but he has no long term slot on the Cubs team.  If they can get anything for him in trade, they should do it.  There isn't much current help for first base, but they should get rid of Schwindel and let Rivas be their lefty pinch hitter.  They might as well turn first base over to Higgins right now.

If they trade Happ, they should probably put Velasquez in left to see if he can settle in.  Otherwise, he and the Cubs would proably be better off with him playing full time in Iowa.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 17, 2022, 11:39:40 pm
Nice late-inning come-from-behind win for the Cubs, who badly need all they can get.  Sampson was decent again; Brault made his Cubs debut; three hits from Hoerner.  Great throw from Velasquez and nice play at the plate from Willson.  We *need* to re-sign him.

I'm sure that most here don't remember the '62 Mets.  Davep, me, Reb, Bennett, Ben probably do.  They were pathetic.  Marv Throneberry, the first baseman, had a birthday.  Casey Stengel, the manager, said, "We were going to get you a cake, but we were afraid you'd drop it."  I'm mentioning this because the Cubs lately remind me very much of the '62 Mets.

My favorite Marv Throneberry story is when he asked for a raise after that season.  "I was a regular; I played in the most games of my career."  The owner's response: "But you didn't play well in any of them."
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 18, 2022, 12:25:27 am

…My favorite Marv Throneberry story is when he asked for a raise after that season.  "I was a regular; I played in the most games of my career."  The owner's response: "But you didn't play well in any of them."

1962 Throneberry   0.3 bWAR

2022 Rivas/Schwindel combined   —0.6 bWAR
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on July 22, 2022, 01:59:28 pm
Umpires for #Cubs (35-57) at #Phillies (49-43):
Jeff Nelson, CB Bucknor, Manny Gonzalez, Stu Scheurwater
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on July 22, 2022, 02:52:46 pm
Reminder:  The MLB Extra Innings free preview period that started Thursday, runs through Thursday, July 28.

However, tonight's game with the Phillies is available only on Apple TV.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 22, 2022, 06:12:19 pm
AppleTV games look so clean…what a picture!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 22, 2022, 08:33:19 pm
Morel just made an amazing rangy play at second base on what looked like a hit right through the hole.  Nice pick from Rivas at first, too.  Cubs still lead, 7-1.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 22, 2022, 09:41:27 pm
Morel just made an amazing rangy play at second base on what looked like a hit right through the hole.  Nice pick from Rivas at first, too.  Cubs still lead, 7-1.

FWIW, the Statcast xBA on that batted ball was .240.

Put another way, Statcast says ordinarily that batted ball should be an out.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on July 23, 2022, 02:02:15 am
Statcast doesn't know when a defender is in a shift.


https://twitter.com/Cubs_Highlights/status/1550656104882921474
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 23, 2022, 08:55:16 am
Statcast doesn't know when a defender is in a shift.

Morel was not in a shift. He was the 2B and the play was a grounder between 2B and 1B.

I don’t think there was anything notable about the range in that play. Really good defenders sometimes make plays look easy or easier compared to lesser defenders diving to make plays. What was impressive about the play was Morel’s transfer to a throwing position after getting to the ball.p, showing plus athleticism there. But that is a ball that probably should be an out in the majors most of the time.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on July 23, 2022, 09:23:54 am
I've watched the play a number of times. It may not be an "amazing" play and I guess it depends on what "in a shift" means. But Morel appears to have begun the play just to the right of second base (though not to the 3B side), and he seemed to get a good jump and was running hard to get to the ball, and executed the play seamlessly. Looked like an excellent defensive play to me.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on July 23, 2022, 11:36:04 am
On the larger question of Morel's defense, at 2B he's right in the middle of the pack in terms of UZR and OAA, maybe a little below.  That about matches the eye test for me - he's clearly an athlete but he doesn't look natural in the position to me.  Whereas with Javy his athleticism complemented his fluidity and instincts, with Morel I think it's making up for what he lacks.  I don't think Morel is a natural 2B or SS - I'd like to see how he looks in an extended run at 3B, where he probably fits the best.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on July 23, 2022, 04:12:55 pm
I don't think that Morel has the instincts of Javier Baez on defense or on the base paths.  But then I don't think that 99 percent of baseball players have the instincts of Javier Baez on defense or on the basepaths.

But I agree that Morel has a long way to go to become an all around defensive player.  His arm is excellent.  His speed is excellent.  His reaction time seems quite good.  But I believe that his is going to have to play one position exclusively in order to reach his potential talent level.  On most teams that would probably be third base, but the Cubs have such a black hole at second that that is the direction they should take for now.  I hope they do.  Lack of outstanding instincts can be rectified by experience and practice if the tools are there.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 23, 2022, 07:48:31 pm
Three half-innings in a row in which the defense gets out of a jam.

On to the ninth; let's score here and win it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 23, 2022, 08:10:03 pm
Robot umps can’t get here soon enough.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 23, 2022, 08:12:28 pm
That was terrible.  Strike at the letters is called a ball, then a pitch an inch or two higher is called strike three.

And the ump ejects Ross within seconds of him coming out to argue.  What could Ross possibly have said to be tossed so soon?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 23, 2022, 08:13:35 pm
Alert baserunning from Hoerner as he steals third with one out and Schwindel up.  A deep fly ball would get the lead run in.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on July 23, 2022, 08:26:51 pm
Alec Bohm might really benefit from a change of scenery.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 23, 2022, 08:28:15 pm
Cubs are breaking it open; a grounder to third and the Phils try to get the runner at home but can't, giving the Cubs a 2-1 lead.  Then a couple of hits and an error from Bohm at third, and the Cubs have a 5-1 lead.  Still only one out!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 23, 2022, 08:31:51 pm
A HBP to Contreras is overturned; it looked like it hit his finger, but it seems to have hit the knob of the bat. (I thought "hands are part of the bat" was the rule there?)

And then Contreras hits a double into the left field corner to give the Cubs another run.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 23, 2022, 08:32:22 pm
Alec Bohm might really benefit from a change of scenery.
Maybe a change of glove as well…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on July 23, 2022, 08:36:48 pm
I was thinking change of position.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 23, 2022, 08:49:52 pm
Hughes gets through the tenth easily and the Cubs win 6-2.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 23, 2022, 09:18:59 pm
Broadcasters said that Ross was asking CB to admit guilt.

(Maybe he said a bad word or two too).
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on July 23, 2022, 09:26:34 pm
Maybe a change of glove as well…
I was thinking change of position.

DH

He’d be a buy low to target though.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on July 24, 2022, 06:26:28 pm
A good day for the trade deadline today - Smyly and Robertson both excellent.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 24, 2022, 09:48:08 pm
DH

He’d be a buy low to target though.
Yeah, when I said change of glove, I was referring to perhaps our hole at 1B…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on July 25, 2022, 09:04:40 pm
Bob Odenkirk was great.  Jeff Garlin always tries too hard.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 25, 2022, 10:03:15 pm
Nico is a ballplayer.

Effross is a keeper.

Sampson has a really good idea of how to pitch. Not the greatest stuff, obviously,, but he executes well…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on July 25, 2022, 10:20:15 pm
Yeah, when I said change of glove, I was referring to perhaps our hole at 1B…

Didn’t the Phillies try him there and it was just as bad?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on July 25, 2022, 10:51:01 pm
Nico is a ballplayer.

His game reminds me a *lot* of Pedroia.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 26, 2022, 08:04:29 am
Didn’t the Phillies try him there and it was just as bad?
I think he has played a few games there…presumably on Hoskins rest days…not sure if he played there much in the minors though…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on July 26, 2022, 10:46:41 am
I think he has played a few games there…presumably on Hoskins rest days…not sure if he played there much in the minors though…
Just watching him a few games I kept thinking "Clang."  He has a metal glove, so I don't see that miraculously changing if he moves to first.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on July 26, 2022, 11:33:10 am
I think he has played a few games there…presumably on Hoskins rest days…not sure if he played there much in the minors though…

It looks like only a handful.  I guess LF could be an option for him too.  I'd just like to see what he could do outside of the Phillies.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on July 26, 2022, 01:09:08 pm
It looks like only a handful.  I guess LF could be an option for him too.  I'd just like to see what he could do outside of the Phillies.

With Bohm, Schwarber, Castellanos, man that was NOT a team built for defense. 

With Schwarber and Rhys Hoskins, kinda hot-and-cold offense, too.

Schwarbs was on fire for a while.  But last ten games, two home runs but otherwise hitless. 

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on July 26, 2022, 01:39:51 pm
Can a fielder prevent a foul ball from hitting the net by pushing it back and then make the catch?  Apparently so.

3-0 Cubs after one.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on July 26, 2022, 03:20:07 pm
Willson Contreras received a nice standing ovation before his first AB in the first inning.

Now he gets another one before what might be his last AB as a Cub at Wrigley in the seventh.

3-2 Cubs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 26, 2022, 03:24:54 pm
This is Contreras 14th season in Cubs organization.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on July 26, 2022, 03:50:17 pm
Six in a row

4-2  final

Third game in a row under three hours.

(http://mlb.mlb.com/assets/images/7/1/4/201585714/091516_cubs_flag_med_3_fqqoz3ho.gif)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 28, 2022, 09:56:56 pm
Steele allows three unearned runs in the third, set up by a Wisdom fielding error.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 28, 2022, 10:07:19 pm
Nothing hit hard…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 28, 2022, 10:25:28 pm
Through five innings, the Cubs do not have a hit.

Erich Uelmen is in to pitch, making his second appearance.  Hopefully he can hold them.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 28, 2022, 10:42:54 pm
Uelmen is pitching well but the Cubs are still hitless.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 28, 2022, 10:52:01 pm
Happ breaks up the no-hitter, and Wisdom makes up for his previous failure by homering to score them both.  4-2, Giants.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 28, 2022, 11:14:00 pm
Uelmen retired all seven batters he pitched to; great progress.

Hughes has come in and now Martin after a man reaches base.  Still 4-2.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 29, 2022, 12:13:05 am
Giants hang on for the win; the Cubs' winning streak is over.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on July 29, 2022, 12:00:34 pm
Friday night - another game available only on Apple TV.  Along with the games exclusively on Peacock, it's no wonder the price of Extra Innings was lowered this year.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on July 29, 2022, 06:25:34 pm
Is there anything to read into the fact that Willson is catching tonight?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on July 29, 2022, 06:52:50 pm
Good grief.  Trade deadline hysteria.  A legitimate, diagnosable psychiatric disorder.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on July 29, 2022, 06:53:18 pm
That's not to say that I'm not affected...
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 29, 2022, 09:53:01 pm
The Giants have five hits through two innings, but have not scored; it's 0-0 going to the third.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 29, 2022, 10:41:51 pm
Cubs bringing back some 2016 NLDS memories this inning; Wisdom hits a homer right above the cartoon car sign where Arrieta's went, and Schwindel follows with a hit up the middle just like the one from Baez that brought Heyward in with the go-ahead run.

Cubs can't get any more, though, and we're headed to the bottom of the fifth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 29, 2022, 10:55:19 pm
Cobb strikes out the side in the sixth, aided by a very wide strike zone on both sides of the plate.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 29, 2022, 11:07:55 pm
A leadoff walk and Cobb is being lifted.  Let's get some insurance runs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 29, 2022, 11:21:22 pm
The Giants escape a bases-loaded no-out jam with a strikeout and a double play.  Hopefully that doesn't come back to haunt us.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 29, 2022, 11:37:20 pm
The Cubs’ run of great starting pitching continues tonight…

Updated totals since the AS break…

40.2 IP - 36 H - 12 R - 5 ER - 9 BB - 30 K
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 29, 2022, 11:39:58 pm
Effross comes in, gets himself into trouble, but gets himself out of it with a grounder to first from Yastrzemski.

Still 1-0, going to the eighth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 29, 2022, 11:47:57 pm
Givens coming in for the bottom half.  He's been really effective for us this year; I'd hate to lose him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 29, 2022, 11:50:06 pm
A wind-blown long pop fly falls next to Happ and suddenly the Giants are threatening with a man on second with one out.  Uh-oh.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 30, 2022, 12:11:15 am
Nicole walks and scores on a Schwin hit after a double that is almost foul. Giants challenged but the call stays. 2-0.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on July 30, 2022, 01:21:45 am
Wilmer Flores hits a two run homer but we hang on for the win, 4-2.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on July 30, 2022, 01:49:43 am
Wilmer Flores hits a two run homer but we hang on for the win, 4-2.
Third game in a row with a score of 4-2.  A win, a loss, and another win.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on July 31, 2022, 10:28:00 am
No one commented on yesterday's game.

Cubs score 4 runs in the ninth inning to lose 5 to 4.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on July 31, 2022, 12:13:38 pm
Sorry.  1 in the 8th, 3 in the 9th.  Still lost 5 - 4
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on July 31, 2022, 12:22:12 pm
Sorry.  1 in the 8th, 3 in the 9th.  Still lost 5 - 4

these kind of mistakes are hard to forgive.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on July 31, 2022, 01:43:23 pm
But at least they are all numerals rather than letters.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on July 31, 2022, 02:39:54 pm
Bases loaded and 0 out in the 9th and we hit what? Was it four straight ground balls?

The Giants D gifted us 3 runs in the 9th.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on July 31, 2022, 02:47:52 pm
Bases loaded and 0 out in the 9th and we hit what? Was it four straight ground balls?

The Giants D gifted us 3 runs in the 9th.

The Giants are reportedly trying to acquire AAA infielder Dixon Machado from the Cubs.

This is the kind of thing that happens when you're playing ex-Cub farmhand Jason Vosler AT SHORTSTOP when trying to hold on to a lead in the ninth inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on July 31, 2022, 02:56:23 pm

…This is the kind of thing that happens when you're playing ex-Cub farmhand Jason Vosler AT SHORTSTOP when trying to hold on to a lead in the ninth inning.

Yeah, but kind of cutthroat Cubs strategy by hitting the starting SS in the head with a pitch in order to weaken their defense in the 9th inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 03, 2022, 03:59:51 pm
(https://radblast-aa.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/radar/WUNIDS_map?station=LSX&brand=wui&num=10&delay=60&type=NCR&frame=0&scale=0.999&noclutter=0&t=1621025493&showstorms=0&map.x=400&map.y=240&centerx=400&centery=240&transx=0&transy=0&showlabels=1&severe=1&rainsnow=1&lightning=1)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on August 03, 2022, 04:19:21 pm
I'm about 40 minutes from Busch and I can tell you they're not likely to get the game in tonight.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on August 03, 2022, 05:50:08 pm
See that lake straight east of the words "St Louis"?  I'm at the southern tip of that.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 03, 2022, 06:15:14 pm
Tonight's lineup could very well be the primary defensive arrangement for the remainder of the year.  Depending mainly, I would think, on how McKinstry performs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on August 03, 2022, 06:16:06 pm
I think I can see you.  Go ahead and wave.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 03, 2022, 06:33:09 pm
The tarp is on the field.  JD says there may be a window.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on August 03, 2022, 07:17:27 pm
I think I can see you.  Go ahead and wave.
I waved but not with all my fingers.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on August 03, 2022, 07:45:45 pm
Game postponed.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 03, 2022, 07:46:24 pm
Blah.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 04, 2022, 12:28:10 pm
That's my catcher!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 04, 2022, 09:02:26 pm
Did we really not have anyone who could hit for Frank the Tanked there?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on August 04, 2022, 09:17:02 pm
With this bullpen it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility that the Cubs could get that worst record.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on August 04, 2022, 09:22:15 pm
Particularly when paired with this offense.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 04, 2022, 09:36:29 pm
Horrible
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on August 04, 2022, 09:42:24 pm
Fox should have put some more thought into the two teams who will be playing in the Field of Dreams game next week.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on August 04, 2022, 09:56:58 pm
Nightmares are dreams too.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 05, 2022, 04:30:25 pm
Welcome home, my catcher…welcome home!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 05, 2022, 04:50:28 pm
so why can’t Wick get both a win and a save?

There needs to be a rules change…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on August 05, 2022, 04:55:38 pm
Extend Contreras.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 05, 2022, 05:19:43 pm
so why can’t Wick get both a win and a save?

There needs to be a rules change…

Yeah, the requirement of saving the win for—Another Guy—is kind of Socialist, no?

Saving the win for—Yourself—now, that’s in the spirit of a modern market economy with the appropriate incentive.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 05, 2022, 05:33:51 pm
If someone hits for the pitcher doesn't that make him the pitcher of record and if his team then takes the lead that inning shouldn't he be in line for the win?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 05, 2022, 05:38:13 pm
Before the DH.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on August 05, 2022, 05:44:03 pm
so why can’t Wick get both a win and a save?

There needs to be a rules change…
So if Verlander throws a complete game shut-out, he should get both a W and a Save?

Clearly the lords of baseball value the W over the S.  Heh, maybe Wick should be given his choice.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 05, 2022, 07:18:26 pm
….. Heh, maybe Wick should be given his choice.

If given a choice, he’d take the Save of course.

It would mean somebody else could get the Win and that would be in line with the Socialist credo underpinning the Save concept.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on August 06, 2022, 11:34:19 am
Yeah, the requirement of saving the win for—Another Guy—is kind of Socialist, no?

Saving the win for—Yourself—now, that’s in the spirit of a modern market economy with the appropriate incentive.



Giving him both a win and a save would make it easier to track the added value of a two or three inning save, as opposed to a one inning closer.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 06, 2022, 05:02:00 pm
How did Morel look when he left the game?

DL or no?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 06, 2022, 05:42:15 pm
Seems like no.

Aug. 6: INF/OF Christopher Morel leaves game vs. Marlins with right hamstring tightness
The Cubs announced Morel is day-to-day after he was lifted for pinch-hitter Nick Madrigal in the sixth inning of Chicago's 4-0 win over Miami.

"Running the bases a little bit tight, and I’m not going to take any risks there," manager David Ross said. "We have plenty of infielders on the bench. Nothing serious from what I was told by the trainers, but we’ll see how he feels [Sunday]."
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on August 06, 2022, 05:55:17 pm
Seems like no.

Aug. 6: INF/OF Christopher Morel leaves game vs. Marlins with right hamstring tightness
The Cubs announced Morel is day-to-day after he was lifted for pinch-hitter Nick Madrigal in the sixth inning of Chicago's 4-0 win over Miami.

"Running the bases a little bit tight, and I’m not going to take any risks there," manager David Ross said. "We have plenty of infielders on the bench. Nothing serious from what I was told by the trainers, but we’ll see how he feels [Sunday]."
Translation: the boy's career is over.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 06, 2022, 07:39:21 pm
Seems like no.

Aug. 6: INF/OF Christopher Morel leaves game vs. Marlins with right hamstring tightness
The Cubs announced Morel is day-to-day after he was lifted for pinch-hitter Nick Madrigal in the sixth inning of Chicago's 4-0 win over Miami.

"Running the bases a little bit tight, and I’m not going to take any risks there," manager David Ross said. "We have plenty of infielders on the bench. Nothing serious from what I was told by the trainers, but we’ll see how he feels [Sunday]."


One of Vin Scully's many memorable quotes was made after someone used that phrase.   His comment was "Aren't we all?"  The "day-to-day" player was Andre Dawson.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 07, 2022, 10:03:49 am
(https://radblast-aa.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/radar/WUNIDS_map?station=LOT&brand=wui&num=10&delay=60&type=NCR&frame=0&scale=0.999&noclutter=0&t=1621025493&showstorms=0&map.x=400&map.y=240&centerx=400&centery=240&transx=0&transy=0&showlabels=1&severe=1&rainsnow=1&lightning=1)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on August 07, 2022, 10:22:06 am
The game will likely be delayed but not postponed.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on August 07, 2022, 07:39:42 pm
What on Earth is the point of wasting ABs on Schwindel at this stage?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 08, 2022, 07:50:00 pm
Velazquez hits a homer to give the Cubs a 1-0 lead.

The Pirates and Reds both leapfrogged the Cubs by a single game and we are now in last place and on pace to lose 97 games, but I hadn't noticed how awful the Nats are.  They are on a pace to lose 109.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 08, 2022, 07:55:41 pm
Madrigal walks and Morel homers to make it 3-0.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on August 08, 2022, 08:15:26 pm
Another BB for Madrigal.  On 10 pitches.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on August 08, 2022, 08:17:30 pm
Wonder if Madrigal has ever walked twice in the same game.

It's kind of the elephant in the room at this point, but Suzuki has been pretty bad after the first month of the season.  Hopefully all part of the adjustment period.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 08, 2022, 08:29:52 pm
Home runs are useful.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 08, 2022, 09:13:42 pm
Morel scores again; this time on a Willson single.  5-1.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 08, 2022, 09:22:44 pm
Ortega steals third and scores on a Seiya sacrifice fly; 6-1.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 08, 2022, 09:29:10 pm
I wonder if our old pal Carl Edwards will pitch for the Nats in this series.  After bouncing between four teams in the past two seasons, never even pitching six innings with any of them, he is back to having a solid season with Washington this year.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 08, 2022, 09:59:14 pm
Wick shuts them down in the ninth and the Cubs win.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on August 09, 2022, 08:43:42 am
Wonder if Madrigal has ever walked twice in the same game.

Guess Not.

Quote
Michael Cerami
@Michael_Cerami
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Nick Madrigal just took his second walk of the night in the bottom of the 4th inning.

That's the first two-walk game of his entire big league career.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on August 09, 2022, 01:27:52 pm
Wonder if Madrigal has ever walked twice in the same game.

It's kind of the elephant in the room at this point, but Suzuki has been pretty bad after the first month of the season.  Hopefully all part of the adjustment period.
I think it hurt Suzuki when it was public knowledge for a time that he wouldn't swing at the first pitch.  Pitchers took advantage of that to pretty much and he started a lot of AB's 0-1.  Then one game he did tee off on the first pitches and did well, then, for whatever reason, he went back to being passive on the first pitch.  That approach may have worked in Japan and worked the first month here, but now is hurting him.  I believe he will readjust, but right now he is struggling and it's all deeg's fault.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on August 09, 2022, 01:48:16 pm
Madrigal almost got a 3rd walk.  Got to 3-0 count, took a couple of fairly close called strikes, fouled a couple off, and then took a 3rd strike.  Who knows, maybe he realizes he's got to make some adjustments, and is consciously trying to boost a little bit with some walks?  Or, maybe it's just playing the tanker Nats, and has nothing to do with Madrigal's approach!  :)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 09, 2022, 03:32:23 pm
Franmil batting 5th as the DH tonight.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 09, 2022, 07:42:05 pm
The infield single by Nico in the bottom of the second was BRUTAL.  The Nationals' SS Garcia would never again play for me.  Truly awful.  I've seen better SS play by a 70 year old at fantasy camp.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 09, 2022, 08:44:27 pm
..The Nationals' SS Garcia would never again play for me.  Truly awful.  I've seen better SS play by a 70 year old at fantasy camp.

Yes, but in his 231 PA of the season, Garcia drew his 3rd walk of the season tonight.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 09, 2022, 09:20:47 pm
Dammit, Ortega…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 09, 2022, 09:31:12 pm
Lots of hits the other way…

Keeps the carousel moving…4 runs so far on 7 singles…5 guys going 1st to 3rd…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 09, 2022, 09:37:58 pm
Franmil coming up big!

(He took Hermosillo's number; is Hermosillo not coming back?  I always liked him as he was supposedly a big Cub fan as a kid.)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 09, 2022, 10:09:47 pm
Trailing 6-5, the Cubs have some good hitters coming up for a last-inning rally.  Maybe Suzuki can get it done.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 09, 2022, 10:20:04 pm
Suzuki gets a one-out hit but overslides second trying to steal and is tagged.

Now down to their last strike, Franmil works a walk and it's up to Hoerner.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 09, 2022, 10:25:05 pm
With a full count, Edwards puts a pitch on the very edge of the inside corner to end the game.

This is only the third game since 2015 where the Cubs have had 15 hits and lost.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 10, 2022, 04:51:45 pm
Cubs 4, Nationals 2

Jim DeShaies is on the Covid IL

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 11, 2022, 08:35:07 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZucknJXEAACwPe?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 11, 2022, 10:27:40 am
LHP tonight for the Reds.  I imagine we'll see something like this.

LF Happ
CF Velazquez
RF Suzuki
3B Morel
SS Hoerner
2B Madrigal
1B Wisdom
C Contreras
DH Reyes

Could go with Gomes behind the plate and Contreras as the DH, but I imagine they'd like to get Reyes in there.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 11, 2022, 02:43:35 pm
Reyes sits in favor of Higgins
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 11, 2022, 03:40:05 pm
Jesse Rogers

Cubs Hall of Fame players Billy Williams, Andre Dawson, Ryne Sandberg, Lee Smith and Fergie Jenkins will be attending tonight along with former Cubs Kerry Wood and WS MVP Ben Zobrist, among others. Ken Griffey Sr. and Jr. as well.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 11, 2022, 04:14:06 pm
https://thecomeback.com/mlb/field-of-dreams-game-harry-caray-hologram.html
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on August 11, 2022, 06:32:28 pm
Pretty good start for the Cubs so far. 3-0 after two outs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 11, 2022, 07:22:48 pm
Votto is the best "mic'd up" guy of all time.  No one else is close.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on August 11, 2022, 07:23:50 pm
Votto is the best "mic'd up" guy of all time.  No one else is close.

I was just going to say essentially the same thing. Not only entertaining but enlightening. Gotta appreciate this guy as a real baseball player. And a really thoughtful one.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 11, 2022, 07:36:09 pm
It's really a shame what's happened to Albert Almora.  He was never a star or worthy of having been the sixth overall pick, but he was a valuable player his first three seasons.  He's just gone to pot.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 11, 2022, 08:28:14 pm
Cubs lead 4-0 going to the sixth.  This would be a great game to win given how little there has been to cheer about this year.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 11, 2022, 08:30:16 pm
Man, Willy is running well having rolled his ankle earlier.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 11, 2022, 08:51:27 pm
Trouble brewing as the Reds get a double and a walk to start the seventh.  Last inning we got a timely DP grounder from Almora; let's get another one now.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 11, 2022, 08:53:11 pm
And Matt Reynolds brings the runners in with a double, making it 4-2.  Still nobody out.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 11, 2022, 09:01:14 pm
Hughes comes in and gets three quick outs, including striking Votto out looking.  Was he mic'd up for that?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 11, 2022, 09:15:07 pm
With two outs and a valuable insurance run at second, Ortega pinch hits for Morel, who had been the only Cub in the lineup not to get to run the bases on the Field of Dreams.  But Diaz strikes him out and we go to the bottom half, still leading 4-2.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 11, 2022, 09:21:18 pm
Hughes enjoys a quick bottom of the eighth.  I say let him finish and try to get a very well-earned save.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on August 11, 2022, 09:27:21 pm
They need to do more of that, not necessarily to get him a save, but to save the bullpen over the course of the season.  And also to inprove performance of the team.  Why keep on changing pitchers until you finally get to the one who is having a bad day.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 11, 2022, 09:38:09 pm
I agree, Dave; if there's one good thing about the DH, it's that pitchers can be used much more effectively.  I'm loving these longer relief stints that we're seeing this year.  (We still don't have a complete game yet, though.)

No insurance in the ninth with Suzuki and Hoerner striking out with two men on, but hopefully we can close it out with a two-run lead.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 11, 2022, 09:38:45 pm
And Wick is coming in for the ninth.  Shut 'em down, please.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 11, 2022, 09:48:25 pm
Wick shuts the door and the Cubs win.  Watching the highlights now; what a great-looking game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on August 12, 2022, 06:59:09 am
Hughes looks like he could be a keeper.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 12, 2022, 07:01:56 am
Huge collection of photos of today's game here:

https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/reds-cubs-august-11-2022?assettype=image&family=editorial&phrase=reds%20cubs%20august%2011%2C%202022&sort=newest

I say wear these uniforms (which they wore off and on from 1927 to 1936, though not with this cap, which is only from 1914 and didn't have a white border) at home every game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 12, 2022, 08:55:50 am
The hologram of Harry Caray singing Take Me Out To the Ballgame wasn't a bad idea but I have to wonder how much effort they put into it.   He was shown for only a few seconds in a couple of places and his likeness needed more work.   

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/harry-caray-hologram-field-of-dreams-game/rp4web0czqqlkolleyjbhpke

(https://cdn.britannica.com/07/198707-050-54A6BADD/Harry-Caray-1987.jpg?w=400&h=300&c=crop)

https://youtu.be/ykApKeT8IUo
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on August 12, 2022, 12:44:28 pm
Wick's been good.  Nice to see him emerge. 
Hughes looks like he could be a keeper.

Agree, Hughes looks good.  Wicks has been solid lately, too. 

Even Smyly.  Too bad that Smyly missed most of the pre-trade-deadline season, and then had a bomb in his outing immediately preceding.  But yeah, four of his last 5 starts have been good.  I wonder if, in the unlikely hypothetical that he stays both healthy and keeps pitching pretty well through September, whether he might be exactly the type of guy that Hoyer might want to re-sign for next year?  Could be a sign-and-trade guy if he was effective. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on August 12, 2022, 06:34:03 pm
If he had gotten healthy a month earlier, they would have gotten more for him in a trade than they hoped for in Contreras.  I wonder if they will try to re-sign him?  I wouldn't mind a one year prove it contract at this point
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on August 13, 2022, 07:44:26 pm
Newcomb comes in with no outs and the tying and lead runners on, and strikes out the side.  Made some very nice pitches. 

Would be fun if he could emerge as a mostly good reliever. 


Rebuild a bullpen one guy at a time. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on August 13, 2022, 08:19:04 pm
One thing Reyes can certainly do is hit home runs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on August 13, 2022, 08:46:28 pm
Madrigal and Hoerner both with walks in the same game.  Would love to see more of that for each of them. 

Madrigal is over .250 batting average, and is now near the might .600 OPS line!  :).  Small steps, Nick!  We'll see whether it's sustainable, but he's got 4 walks in 22AB since coming back.  Perhaps after failing so badly with us, maybe he now realizes he needed to adjust?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 15, 2022, 04:41:20 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 15, 2022, 07:40:59 pm
Happ has hit his second homer of the game to give the Cubs a 3-0 lead, with the other run scoring on a Seiya hit followed by a Franmil triple.

Now let's get three outs in the fifth and make it an official game.  How is the rain looking now?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 15, 2022, 07:53:42 pm
Three singles in a row (one from former Cub Ildemaro Vargas) have loaded the bases against Stroman with no outs.  Meneses, who hit the homer to beat us a few days ago, is coming up.

And Stro strikes him out.  Now Luke Voit hits into a fielder's choice that gets the runner at first heading for second while a run scores.  Two outs; first and third for Yadiel Hernandez, who singles in another run. 3-2 now.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 15, 2022, 07:59:44 pm
Mark Leiter, Jr. is coming in.  What could go wrong?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 15, 2022, 08:05:08 pm
Stroman is lifted for Mark Leiter, Jr., who promptly allows a two-run double to Nelson Cruz before the inning ends.

Time to get some runs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 15, 2022, 08:33:24 pm
With two outs, Suzuki comes up big, singling Madrigal in with the tying run.

Reyes grounds out but we're tied at 4 going to the bottom of the seventh.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 15, 2022, 08:55:40 pm
Nelson Cruz strikes again and homers to give the Nats a one-run lead.  Carl Edwards is in line to be the winning pitcher unless the Cubs can mount a ninth-inning comeback.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 15, 2022, 09:16:10 pm
Nats win.  Happy for Nelson Cruz at his age, but still a disappointing game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on August 16, 2022, 07:27:45 pm
Ross will yank Steele if he gets two more outs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on August 16, 2022, 07:48:13 pm
Hoerner's quietly become a pretty good player. Certainly looks like a regular now.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on August 16, 2022, 07:56:54 pm
Reyes certainly seems to have morphed back into the marginally playable guy from before this season.  The K-rate remains sky-high though, so not much margin for error there.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 16, 2022, 08:43:41 pm
Cubs have blown a 4-0 lead as the Nationals tie it up with two homers in the eighth.

Newcomb coming on in relief of Wick with the go-ahead run on second and only one out.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 16, 2022, 08:47:52 pm
Questionable call for ball one to Ruiz on a pitch that looked like it nicked the outside corner, and he goes on to walk.

Ildemaro Vargas up with two outs and two men on; come on, Newcomb, get him out.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 16, 2022, 08:52:30 pm
Yadiel Hernandez hits a grounder to a well-positioned Madrigal at second, and the Cubs are out of the inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 16, 2022, 09:07:26 pm
Excellent grab on a hard-hit ball down the third-base line by Wisdom, and a nice pick by Higgins on the long throw to first.  One out in the ninth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 16, 2022, 09:12:01 pm
Rucker gets through the ninth with two more strikeouts, one of Nelson Cruz, last night's hero, and we're going to extras.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 16, 2022, 09:22:00 pm
Edwards pitching for the other guys.

With Happ on third (as the ghost runner), McKinstry follows with a single and Ortega hits a grounder to the second baseman who is right in McKinstry's path and they collide.  Umpires call interference, and send Happ (who had scored) back to third.

Madrigal, who is 0 for 4 today, batting with one out and runners on first and third.  How about an extra-base hit in the gap?

But he is hit with a pitch.

Bases loaded for Contreras.  OK, Willson, you can get the extra-base hit.  Break this open.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 16, 2022, 09:25:25 pm
Contreras hits a sacrifice fly to score Happ and Ortega is caught in a rundown trying to tag up.  Now that could come back to haunt us -- 5-4 lead going to the bottom half.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 16, 2022, 09:35:57 pm
Hughes in to try to save it.

Ghost runner Call comes in to score on a hit to right field; Suzuki makes a great throw but Call gets under the tag. Next batter pops out to end the inning, so we're going to the eleventh, tied 5-5.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 16, 2022, 09:47:37 pm
Wisdom leads off the eleventh with a solid line drive double just inside the left field line to bring Manfred Man Contreras in with the lead run.

Suzuki swings at a terrible pitch but the next one goes wild and Wisdom moves to third.

Infield in, and Suzuki hits one in front of center to bring in another run. 

Franmil then hits into a very easy double play. 

Hoerner now up with nobody on but with the Cubs up by two.  He tries to bunt for a hit and it goes foul; next he gets a very solid hit in the hole.  Happ up with two outs and Hoerner at first.

Hoerner steals second and is now in scoring position with two outs.  But Happ swings at a pitch low and in, and the inning is over.

7-5 lead going to the bottom of the eleventh.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 16, 2022, 09:55:41 pm
Leiter saves it with a strikeout to end the game.  Great win!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on August 16, 2022, 10:03:36 pm
Tuffy, thanks for play-by-play.  I love it
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on August 16, 2022, 10:14:19 pm
Yeah, excellent play by play, Tuffy.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 17, 2022, 03:32:39 pm
Cubs win the rubber game of the series 3-2.

Paid attendance announced as 28,302.  The number of fans in the stands on a beautiful day for a ballgame could not have been much more than 5,000 and many of them were wearing blue.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 18, 2022, 01:53:26 pm
Seiya gets his birthday off.

This is of no particular importance, but Seiya was born 68 years to the day after my father.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on August 18, 2022, 05:47:05 pm
Seiya gets his birthday off.

This is of no particular importance, but Seiya was born 68 years to the day after my father.

Did your dad always take the first pitch too?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 18, 2022, 06:30:02 pm
Did your dad always take the first pitch too?

Dad, Seiya, and Ryne Sandberg.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: method on August 18, 2022, 07:06:32 pm
Seiya gets his birthday off.

This is of no particular importance, but Seiya was born 68 years to the day after my father.

Does that mean you are Seiya's age?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 18, 2022, 07:20:08 pm
Would that it were so.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on August 18, 2022, 07:32:57 pm
Nice to see the Cubs beat a team that had a reason to want to win.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 19, 2022, 11:49:32 am
Courtesy of Paul Sullivan
9:35 AM · Aug 19, 2022 (https://twitter.com/PWSullivan/status/1560666833912582145)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaiaK5DWAAIvJHx?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on August 19, 2022, 12:08:44 pm
It's a beautiful day for a ballgame.


Although the practice for the air show may make hearing a bit difficult.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 19, 2022, 01:13:17 pm
I never get tired of the shots of the planes over Wrigley.  It's always disappointing when the Cubs are on the road during the show.

https://youtu.be/QIwuRM-lu3o
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 19, 2022, 01:48:59 pm
Please make Girardi go away.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 19, 2022, 01:53:23 pm
Cubs lead 3- 2 at the end of the first inning.

Lots of great shots of the Navy Blue Angels.  Being a Navy veteran, I definitely prefer them to the Air Force Thunderbirds
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 19, 2022, 03:25:11 pm
David Ross having some fun during his regular Friday third inning interview:

With the air show on we have a couple automatic plays.  When the Blue Angels fly over a runner is going to be looking up so that's a good time to throw over.  And if we have a runner on third, it's an automatic steal of home since the pitcher isn't going to be able to hear everyone yell "step off"
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 19, 2022, 04:23:59 pm
8-7

(http://mlb.mlb.com/assets/images/7/1/4/201585714/091516_cubs_flag_med_3_fqqoz3ho.gif)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 20, 2022, 12:54:34 pm
Chicago Cubs  @Cubs  2m
The start time of today’s Cubs-Brewers game will be delayed due to weather in the area.

We will provide updates as they become available.

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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 20, 2022, 01:24:43 pm
Start time: 2:00 P.M.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 20, 2022, 01:52:06 pm
With more rain on the way, it wouldn't surprise me if the new start time got pushed back a half hour or so.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on August 20, 2022, 03:10:24 pm
Hoerner is really good at getting to the ball to second in a hurry when a double play is possible.  And Madrigal is a lot better getting a quick relay off than I had expected.  They might make a pretty good defensive combination out there.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 20, 2022, 03:20:39 pm
Jed, are you paying attention?

Sign him!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 20, 2022, 03:27:25 pm
Nico just made a damn good play from short RF to rob Yelich of a hit.

I imagine LHHs can’t wait for the shift to be outlawed.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on August 20, 2022, 04:28:05 pm
Ross, Wick is a closer.  He SHOULD be able to go more than an inning  but when you bring him in early it's almost always a disaster.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 20, 2022, 05:32:07 pm
Can’t be a closer when you’re missing your spots like he is right now…too many FBs right down the middle…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 20, 2022, 05:34:32 pm
Ortega should have let Suzuki take that one…much better arm…and now a GB to 1st lets the go ahead run score…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on August 20, 2022, 06:54:35 pm
Dave, Wick has 8 saves, 4 holds, 4 blown saves.  All of the blown slaves were in the 7th and 8th innings.  He has none in the 9th or 10th, although he has a loss in extras cuz of the Manfred Mann.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 21, 2022, 03:42:55 am
The walk-off hit from Contreras that brought Ortega home with the winning run:

https://streamable.com/mxeeg7
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JR on August 21, 2022, 03:09:14 pm
Hopefully this doesn't turn into a jinx, but the Justin Steele post-ASB ERA is getting pretty miniscule at 0.86 over 6 starts including what's going on today.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on August 21, 2022, 04:03:08 pm
Just DFA Wick if you're going to misuse him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on August 22, 2022, 09:22:28 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9M_fWNFU4g
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on August 22, 2022, 10:09:07 pm
Crazy game.  Smyly, what's going on with that guy? 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 22, 2022, 11:28:25 pm
Montgomery pitches to one batter over the minimum.

Cubs pitchers to five batters over the minimum.

Game time:  2:16.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 23, 2022, 04:04:41 pm
Uelmen needs to get thru the 8th cleanly…we need to avoid Goldschmidt/Arenado in the 9th…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 23, 2022, 04:05:31 pm
…especially if Wick is coming in…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 23, 2022, 04:25:42 pm
ok, to the 9th…need a nice, easy 1-2-3 here…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 23, 2022, 04:31:33 pm
Hughes! Cubs win 2-0!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 23, 2022, 04:39:25 pm
170 pitch shutout for Cubs pitchers.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on August 23, 2022, 04:42:43 pm
The Cubs could save a lot of money if they could find a translator that could speak both Japanese and Spanish.

They should send one of their scouts over to the United Nations building.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on August 23, 2022, 09:03:16 pm
Think it's safe to say Velazquez is not a CF.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 23, 2022, 11:46:33 pm
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Ross confirmed postgame that Luke Ferrell will indeed start for Cubs tomorrow vs. Cardinals

Raise your hand if last week you expected Javier Assad, Nick Padilla, and Luke Farrell to be pitching for Cubs this week.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on August 24, 2022, 03:09:29 am
Reyes got it up to 89 in his inning, LOL.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on August 24, 2022, 09:35:10 am

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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on August 24, 2022, 09:54:45 am
Maybe we've found our Ohtani!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 24, 2022, 07:37:47 pm
Luke Farrell is through two scoreless innings in his 2022 Cubs debut.  Great start!

Yahoo has him wearing number 51; did Espinoza (who had it just last night) give it to him?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 24, 2022, 07:44:50 pm
Farrell is staked to a 3-0 lead on a series of hits and run-scoring fielder's choices with a walk sandwiched in the middle.  Let's see him hold the lead.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 24, 2022, 08:11:18 pm
Luke Farrell is through two scoreless innings in his debut.  Great start!

Yahoo has him wearing number 51; did Espinoza (who had it just last night) give it to him?

Espinoza has been optioned.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 24, 2022, 08:15:38 pm
Through four innings, Farrell has allowed four hits but no runs.

And I had completely forgotten about him pitching for us in 2018.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on August 24, 2022, 08:28:56 pm
The Cubs must have a plan to get Nootbar into the Hall.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 24, 2022, 08:32:18 pm
Lars Nootbaar hits a homer in the fifth and Farrell (now unable to get the win) is being lifted in favor of Rowan Wick.  This is a very early appearance for Wick; are we trying someone new in the late innings today?

Wick gets the next two outs, and the Cubs are still in front, 3-1 going to the bottom of the fifth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 24, 2022, 08:56:05 pm
Wick gets Pujols and Molina to escape a small jam in the sixth.  We could sure use some insurance.  Happ, Reyes, and Hoerner coming up this inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 24, 2022, 09:08:33 pm
Leiter Jr. is on in relief of Wick and quickly gets Edman and Nootbaar, then strikes Donovan out for a 1-2-3 inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 24, 2022, 09:25:46 pm
A 2-run homer for McKinstry!  Cubs' lead is extended to 5-1.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 24, 2022, 09:38:10 pm
Hughes is pitching the eighth and gets through it with no problems.  In the bottom half, Happ and Reyes each single off Genesis Cabrera and the Cubs are threating to add more insurance runs.  Morel is running for Franmil.

And now Hoerner singles to bring Happ in with the Cubs' 6th run!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 24, 2022, 09:46:09 pm
An intentional walk (but only for ball four) to Suzuki, followed by a sacrifice fly from Gomes, and Hoerner comes in with the seventh run.

Who will pitch the ninth?  Could Castro or Uelmen close it out?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on August 24, 2022, 09:51:31 pm
Castro must have a good breaking ball.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 24, 2022, 09:55:15 pm
Castro is in for the ninth and gets them out very easily. Cubs win!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 25, 2022, 11:34:57 am
Jordan Bastain

Cubs 2022 Draft picks Cade Horton and Jackson Ferris are here today, getting a tour of the clubhouse currently. Took photos in front of lockers, tried on Cubs jerseys. Will chat with media later this morning.

I expect Marquee will have them as guests during the TV broadcast
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 25, 2022, 01:35:00 pm
Cardinals score 3 runs in the top of the first.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on August 25, 2022, 02:37:16 pm
Very disappointing effort by Strohman.  He's at best a middle-of-the-rotation guy.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 25, 2022, 03:07:47 pm
Goldschmidt hits one into the left field stands to make it 6-2 Cards in the top of the sixth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 25, 2022, 03:37:32 pm
Goldschmidt goes yard again in the eighth.  8-2.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on August 25, 2022, 05:03:08 pm
Very disappointing effort by Strohman.  He's at best a middle-of-the-rotation guy.

To be fair to him, it never made sense to expect anything more than that from him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on August 25, 2022, 05:13:57 pm
He seems more like a #3/4 than a #2/3.  I guess I was hoping for more.  It looks like the Cubs will go into the offseason with a #3/4 as the featured starter and additional starters ranging from #3/4 (Steele) to the #5 level.  If the rotation could improve to league average next season, the Cubs would be competitive, but it isn't clear how that's possible.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on August 25, 2022, 05:44:30 pm
He seems more like a #3/4 than a #2/3.  I guess I was hoping for more.  It looks like the Cubs will go into the offseason with a #3/4 as the featured starter and additional starters ranging from #3/4 (Steele) to the #5 level.  If the rotation could improve to league average next season, the Cubs would be competitive, but it isn't clear how that's possible.

Oh, I think it’s clear - sign a FA who has the stuff to be a legit #1-2 starter.  There aren’t a ton of them this winter but if you want what you say you want, that’s how you get there.

Personally I don’t think this team is a TORP away from being a contender.  The pen is still full of question marks and the offense is, on the whole, pretty bad.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 25, 2022, 05:45:49 pm
https://youtu.be/KKdLB6nUV54
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 25, 2022, 07:50:16 pm
He seems more like a #3/4 than a #2/3.  I guess I was hoping for more.  It looks like the Cubs will go into the offseason with a #3/4 as the featured starter and additional starters ranging from #3/4 (Steele) to the #5 level.  If the rotation could improve to league average next season, the Cubs would be competitive, but it isn't clear how that's possible.

The worst day to evaluate a player is on a single bad day, just as it is on a single excellent day.

Curious that didn’t weigh in at some point during his previous several starts in which he has had a 2.50 ERA since the all-star break, before today.

Stroman has a career ERA+ of 116 (was much better than that last season), which is better than, for example, Zack Wheeler career (114). And, almost identical to Aaron Nola (117) career.

These guys are not 3/4 type starters.

Sure, possible that Stroman is on a decline but he had a poor season in Toronto and bounced back to form. Think he’s still likely to be in that 2/3 starter territory going forward. Very unlikely to be a 4. Nothing in his history suggests that.

Maybe you’ll have a different view if he’s lights out his next start.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on August 25, 2022, 08:21:29 pm
He seems more like a #3/4 than a #2/3.  I guess I was hoping for more.  It looks like the Cubs will go into the offseason with a #3/4 as the featured starter and additional starters ranging from #3/4 (Steele) to the #5 level.  If the rotation could improve to league average next season, the Cubs would be competitive, but it isn't clear how that's possible.

If the Cubs wanted to be really bold, they could offer DeGrom a huge short-term deal - something like 3/135.  That’s the one SP who, in the (unlikely) event he gave you 30 starts, could move the needle enough.  I don’t think most appreciate just how much better DeGrom is than everybody else when he’s healthy - it’s not remotely close.  If he made 30 starts at the level he’s been the past few seasons he has the ability to be an 8 or 9 WAR guy.  As a pitcher!

Mind you, I think it’s unlikely he’d ever consider the Cubs and even more unlikely they’d make such an offer.  But you could make a strong case that they should - they have ridiculous amounts of short-term money and it’s the sort of deal that even if it didn’t work out wouldn’t cripple the franchise long-term.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 25, 2022, 08:24:55 pm
Sign DeGrom, trade for Devers.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 25, 2022, 10:25:33 pm
It’s deGrom (small d).
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on August 25, 2022, 10:27:15 pm
DeGrom starts with a small d.  Not in that sentence.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 26, 2022, 12:30:51 am
DeGrom starts with a small d.  Not in that sentence.

Yeah, and if any of the previous posts began a sentence with his name, your hypothetical point would be relevant.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on August 26, 2022, 07:10:37 pm
Manny Rodriguez activated for today's game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 26, 2022, 07:44:38 pm
Deshaies: "The challenge for the pitchers here tonight is to not let C.B. Bucknor's strike zone get in their head."

JD is absolutely **** awesome.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 26, 2022, 08:07:34 pm
With runners at first and second, Nico took the easy force out at third instead of trying to turn a double play.

My first year at fantasy camp, I did the same thing while playing shortstop and Don Kessinger read me the riot act.  I've always laughed about that because he was judging us as he would actual ballplayers instead of a bunch of amateurs trying to play ball.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: VJ on August 26, 2022, 10:08:20 pm
Happ!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on August 26, 2022, 10:19:14 pm
Wonder if a player has ever accounted for his team's only hits with multiple homers.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 26, 2022, 10:31:31 pm
Wow, what an ending!  Manny Rodriguez on the mound for the first time in a long while, and he's in trouble right away.  Bases loaded and only one out, and after McKinstry failed to tag the lead runner many innings ago and *almost* got the team in trouble, Madrigal plays the grounder perfectly and tags the runner in front of him and then throws to first to end it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on August 26, 2022, 10:35:40 pm
Manuel Rodriquez gets the save.  :). Pretty wild, but I still like his stuff.  Fastballs all 96-97 with lots of life.  His 96-mph sinker has a lot of dive to it, no wonder he's been a heavy groundball guy in past in the minors.  Gave up two soft bloopy singles, had a wild-pitch that Conteras whiffed on, but then ended with a double play.  Madrigal with a nice play on it, rather than throwing to second he was able to tag the runner from 1st and get an easy short toss to first. 

4 runs on 2 hits, very strange. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on August 26, 2022, 10:49:17 pm
How long does this McKinstry experiment get to play out?  Madrigal is awful too, but he has some track record of ML success - you pretty much have to give him the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 26, 2022, 11:39:28 pm
Happ slugging % goes from .442 to .463.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on August 27, 2022, 08:34:27 am
Has Ian Happ proven himself yet?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 27, 2022, 07:31:47 pm
No score after four.

Is Marquee piping in canned applause?  Fans are cheering like crazy for medium depth fly balls, walks, and base hits.  It definitely has a fake ring to it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 27, 2022, 08:19:15 pm
That called 3rd strike on Morel was horseshit.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 27, 2022, 08:20:39 pm
That called 3rd strike on Morel was horseshit.

To put it kindly.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Robert L on August 27, 2022, 08:32:06 pm
wick sucks
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 28, 2022, 02:37:22 pm
Sampson didn’t look too pleased about being removed from the game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 28, 2022, 02:44:04 pm
Bringing in Newcomb to face the lefties doesn’t appear to be working as planned…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on August 28, 2022, 03:41:24 pm
How do YOU know what their plans were?  Maybe they are trying to give them a false sense of security.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on August 28, 2022, 06:48:50 pm
https://youtu.be/EMjQFfDuIAw
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 28, 2022, 07:46:05 pm
Seen just about enough of Newcomb.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: brjones on August 28, 2022, 08:53:36 pm
Seen just about enough of Newcomb.

After watching him pitch for the Braves the last few years, I had seen enough of him before the Cubs ever brought him in.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 28, 2022, 08:57:19 pm
It was worth a trial, albeit one with a very short leash.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 28, 2022, 09:31:24 pm
It was worth a trial, albeit one with a very short leash.

Wish that Ross gave him a shorter leash.

Newcomb faced 10 batters and got 2 batters out (plus a CS).
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 29, 2022, 08:14:29 am
LHH were 6-38 vs Newcomb before yesterday’s outing…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 29, 2022, 07:09:54 pm
Blue Jays in red jerseys is pissing me off.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 29, 2022, 08:16:44 pm
Five solid shutout innings from Assad, and he's in line for the win if the Cubs can hold on.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 29, 2022, 08:30:11 pm
Cubs still leading 4-0 going to the bottom of the seventh, and outhitting them 12-4. Uelmen is staying in for a second inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on August 29, 2022, 08:54:26 pm
Has any team done a poorer job of holding leads than the Cubs this season?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 29, 2022, 08:56:44 pm
Since the trade deadline?

No.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 29, 2022, 09:11:35 pm
Has any team done a poorer job of holding leads than the Cubs this season?

Since the trade deadline?

No.

I think he asked “this season”—-not “this August.”

Different answer.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 29, 2022, 09:22:24 pm
Uelmen allows a 3-run homer to Danny Jansen without getting anyone out, and is lifted in favor of Manuel Rodriguez.  Manny gets out of the inning but allows the tying run in the eighth. 4-4 now.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 29, 2022, 09:32:29 pm
Uelman had a 1-2-3 6th inning before the 7th inning woes.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 29, 2022, 09:50:05 pm
Cubs can't push a run home and we're going to the bottom of the 11th.  This will be disappointing if we can't somehow find a way to win.  Things were going so well.

Uelman had a 1-2-3 6th inning before the 7th inning woes.

I meant in his second inning of work, which I was pleasantly surprised to see him staying in for.  As bad as this instance turned out, I still like seeing relievers work multiple innings and the DH is making that easier.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 29, 2022, 09:54:32 pm
Jansen beats us almost singlehandedly today.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on August 29, 2022, 10:04:23 pm
How did Assad look? 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 29, 2022, 10:07:46 pm
……..I still like seeing relievers work multiple innings and the DH is making that easier.

Also, a lot more interesting position player-for-position player substitutions now, as clubs don’t have to hold back position players to hit for the pitcher. The latter were obvious and routine and not much strategy.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 29, 2022, 10:31:53 pm
How did Assad look?

Very impressed that Assad able to pitch two innings without his glasses. Showed a lot if versatility there.

Pitched out of trouble in the first and fourth innings. Lots of cutters and quite a few more 2-seamers this outing than the first outing.

He has very good mound demeanor. Hope that holds after he gets the inevitable torching or two.

Doesn’t miss a lot of bats but, who knows, maybe he has the pitching intelligence to be more than a depth guy. Never know with some guys who go out there and act like they belong.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on August 30, 2022, 08:25:20 pm
Little with a rough debut inning.  He looked SO nervous, didn't really have reb's "game face".  Super wild, missing targets by multiple feet.  Hit the first guy, fell down trying to field a really weak nubber, HR, a rocket, walked another guy missing way off before getting pulled.  Fastball up around 94-95, seemed to have sinking movement more than ride.  Tough start.  Breaking ball looked pretty high-movement, although for this wild night seemed more like a chase pitch than a can-throw-for-strikes. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 30, 2022, 08:35:23 pm
Vlad Junior against Michael Rucker is the baseball equivalent of Larry Holmes versus Gerry Cooney.

Cruelty.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 30, 2022, 08:40:52 pm
Madrigal’s out to end the 7th with two aboard——a good example of how Madrigal’s lack of power results in some outs.

Bradley playing way shallow in CF and catches Madrigal’s looper easily.

Statcast xBA on that ball: .570

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 30, 2022, 08:44:47 pm
Vlad Junior against Michael Rucker is the baseball equivalent of Larry Holmes versus Gerry Cooney.

Cruelty.

346 feet on the Guerrero homer.

Statcast says less likely to be a hit in the average park than Madrigal’s looper to end the 7th.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on August 30, 2022, 09:23:11 pm
Estrada's debut.  K-walk-K-groundout. 

Not sure on the last groundout, but the fastballs otherwise were:  98-97-98-99-98-98-98-99-98-98-98-97.  Only one of those missed badly.  (On full-count walk, Higgins set up low in zone, Estrada missed high.). But most of the other fastballs, even a couple that were balls, didn't miss by much.  Several of the fastballs seemed well into the strike zone, but a couple that seemed nearer the heart than the edge were still getting swing-and-misses. 

Just visually, you could see the difference in ride versus Little.  Little at 95, you can very easily see the ball drop/sink.  98 is barely faster, but they looked straight for Estrada. 

It's one inning, so maybe next inning those straight fastballs will be getting ripped.  But man, it's sure an easier life to throw strikes and control counts when you can throw lots of fastballs and your fastball is pretty straight and true.  Fastball is the easiest pitch to control, so if he can mostly control his, and can get away with throwing lots of them, it might be easier to avoid the wildman life. 

Threw about one breaking ball to each of the first three guys.  K'd the first guy on a breaking pitch where Higgins set up bottom outside corner, pitch came in way at the top of the zone.  Threw one that had a smaller break for a strike, at 86.  Another that broke low at 85. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ben on August 30, 2022, 10:06:55 pm
Thanks for the pitch-by-pitch Estrada report, Craig.  Very interesting, excellent outcome.

It's nice he gets some MLB exposure this season, but we don't have to add him to the 40 man.

He should have a prominent role with the Cubs next season, if he stays healthy and his stuff doesn't regress.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 30, 2022, 10:30:57 pm
Estrada is subject to the Rule 5 if he isn’t added to the 40-man.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 31, 2022, 06:58:41 pm
OK…McKinstry truly had nowhere to slide there…why wasn’t that challenged?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on August 31, 2022, 09:30:00 pm
Cubs get the early lead, almost blow it, but hang on to win this time.  Rowan Wick with an uneventful ninth to save it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on August 31, 2022, 09:51:52 pm
  ……Rowan Wick with an uneventful ninth to save it.

Liked the snarl that Wick worked with tonight.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 02, 2022, 05:11:07 pm
Paul Sullivan  @PWSullivan  1h
Joe West returns to throw out the first pitch tonight.




In  St. Louis?

Sullivan doesn't specify where West will be but he also covers the White Sox who do have a home game with the Twins tonight.  The tweet is accompanied by photo of West and Joe Maddon.  The Angels are in Houston.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 02, 2022, 05:29:01 pm
(https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/lite/KLSX_loop.gif)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbrYo7VWYAIOif8?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 03, 2022, 06:54:36 pm
The Cubs scored three runs in the first inning against Adam Wainwright.

Be on the lookout for the Four Horsemen.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 03, 2022, 07:39:00 pm
7-3 Cards and they're still batting in the bottom of the third.

Could easily be a 4-hour ballgame.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 04, 2022, 04:14:05 pm
Remind me again why McKinstry is playing every day.

Oh yeah - draft lottery.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 04, 2022, 06:32:38 pm
The only scoring of the game

First base was open with one out and Paul Goldschmidt was on deck.


Lefty Brandon Hughes was on the mound but couldn't be replaced as he'd only faced two hitters.

https://youtu.be/GXpwZjJ_-iI
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 04, 2022, 07:11:21 pm
Goldschmidt was not on deck.

Donovan was on deck with Goldschmidt in the hole.

Issue with walking Pujols was that Goldschmidt would hit in any case (absent a DP).

Pick your poison situation.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 06, 2022, 08:17:24 pm
Hayden Wesneski is in to make his major league debut.  He's wearing number 19 (how did they not give that out yet?), and he's got some good movement on his pitches.  Two scoreless innings so far in relief of Wade Miley, and the game remains tied 3-3 in the middle of the sixth.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 06, 2022, 08:49:30 pm
Morel works a two-out walk to load the bases, and Madrigal singles to right to bring Hoerner and Ortega home, giving the Cubs a 5-3 lead.

Suzuki up now.  And Madrigal steals second with no throw.  Second and third.  And Suzuki walks to re-load the bases.

But Happ strikes out swinging to end the inning.  Would have liked to get a few more runs there.  Still, Cubs are in front and Wesneski is in line for the win.  Will he stay in after that long half inning?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 06, 2022, 08:57:09 pm
Wesneski remains in the game after that 33-minute break.  Not something you saw often before the DH came in.

And he's right back in business, getting a swinging strikeout on a fastball at the letters.  Now another strikeout, and a grounder to first to end the inning.  Three scoreless innings from Wesneski with only one baserunner.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 06, 2022, 09:04:21 pm
Cubs start the bottom of the seventh with a walk and a hit batsman.  Ortega up with a chance to add on.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on September 06, 2022, 09:04:51 pm
What is Ortega doing on a ML team?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 06, 2022, 09:42:29 pm
Morel with a big two-out hit, swinging at the first pitch, to bring two insurance runs in.  Now Suzuki endures a terrible strike call on a 3-1 thigh-high outside pitch, but the next pitch is also a ball, so he walks to bring in another, but Hunter Strickland (remember him in the ninth inning in the 2016 Division Series?) gets the Reds out of it.

Wesneski is staying in for another inning.  And he puts them down pretty easily, again.  I'd love to see him finish the game with a five-inning relief outing.  What a debut that would be.

And now a sac fly to bring Nico in with the Cubs' 9th run.  This is turning into a nice easy win.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 06, 2022, 09:43:29 pm
They're letting Wesneski try to close it out!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 06, 2022, 09:49:43 pm
David Bell is out jawing at the home plate umpire who made a strike call that just barely nicked the zone.  It was a strike, unlike the pitch earlier to Suzuki that was called a strike while being several inches off.

Wesneski is one strike away.  What a debut this could be.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 06, 2022, 09:50:50 pm
Strikes him out swinging!  Cubs win!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on September 06, 2022, 10:00:07 pm
Thanks for the play by play, Tuffy. You are good at this.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on September 06, 2022, 10:09:44 pm
Wesneski: 61 pitches, 43 strikes (70%)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on September 06, 2022, 10:12:55 pm
Hayden Wesneski is the first pitcher since at least 1901 to make his MLB debut as a reliever and throw 5+ innings, allow 2 or fewer hits and strike out 8+ batters.

https://twitter.com/ryan_a_herrera/status/1567344995568328706
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on September 06, 2022, 10:17:13 pm
Fergie Jenkins first Cubs appearance, I believe, was a nine inning relief stint.  And I don't think he gave up a run.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on September 06, 2022, 10:48:58 pm
Wesneski: 61 pitches, 43 strikes (70%)
So many strikes.  Very refreshing. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 06, 2022, 10:52:17 pm
Hayden Wesneski is in to make his major league debut.  He's wearing number 19 (how did they not give that out yet?), and he's got some good movement on his pitches.  Two scoreless innings so far in relief of Wade Miley, and the game remains tied 3-3 in the middle of the sixth.
#19 was last worn by Andrelton Simmons.

Wesneski's family was in the stands.  His brother was shown also wearing a #19 jersey.  I wonder if that was courtesy of the Cubs or if he found a store that gave him same day service,
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on September 06, 2022, 10:52:39 pm
So many strikes.  Very refreshing. 
I don't know, craig.  Remember "It's Different Here" and I'm not sure it's the Cub Way.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 06, 2022, 10:53:56 pm
Greg Maddux - "Work fast, change speeds, throw strikes"
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 07, 2022, 12:19:00 am
Fergie Jenkins first Cubs appearance, I believe, was a nine inning relief stint.  And I don't think he gave up a run.

Fergie's first game as a Cub:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN196604230.shtml

He went 5 1/3 innings in relief and was taken out in the ninth in favor of Ted Abernathy.

He also went 2 for 3 at the plate with a home run.  Otani-esque!

Everybody laughs at the Cubs for the Lou Brock trade, but right about the same time we basically stole Fergie from Philadelphia (for Bob Buhl and Larry Jackson, both of whom were out of the majors by 1968) and nobody ever gives the Cubs credit for that deal.  (Then in 1982 we fleeced them for Sandberg, too.)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 07, 2022, 01:29:37 pm
Link below from BN has video of Madrigal’s 2-run single Tuesday night game.

Statcast xBA on this batted ball is .950 but look how close Aquino actually came to catching the ball—even though video from another angle (shown on broadcast replay last night) showed he got a poor jump on the ball.

Of course, that’s because OF defenders play Madrigal so shallow, as he so rarely drives the ball. Iso power # is now .035.

I guess he’s a unique package and maybe hitting looper, grounders, liners anywhere on the field can’t be defended all that well but have to wonder if can be a productive hitter with the OF playing so shallow and the seeming inability to make them pay with a long drive here and there. Tough to be productive with .035 iso. I guess if can hit .310 and put the ball in play practically all the time, but……

https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2022/09/07/contreras-ankle-madrigal-performance-suzuki-hot-draft-sticking-and-other-cubs-bullets/
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on September 07, 2022, 02:03:36 pm
With OFers playing shallow, liners that would ordinarily be singles can become extra base hits.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 07, 2022, 04:42:24 pm
With OFers playing shallow, liners that would ordinarily be singles can become extra base hits.

You have to hit the ball hard for that to work.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 07, 2022, 04:58:45 pm
With OFers playing shallow, liners that would ordinarily be singles can become extra base hits.

Madrigal has 7 doubles and zero triples in 220 PAs, so that’s not happening.

Indeed, that’s the point.

Opposing clubs play shallow against him because he isn’t showing anybody that he hits very many liners that can become extra base hits——even while playing shallow against him.

And, a shallow OF is going to cost him some singles. That’s the point of the posted video from BN: a .950 xBA batted ball that was almost caught…and would have been with a better initial jump by the RFer.

I suppose one can look at this fromman optimistic standpoint too, that is, if/when Madrigal can start driving the ball more, he’ll pose a dilemma for the defense given his bat-to-ball skills.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 07, 2022, 05:59:59 pm
Madrigal’s ceiling is probably 1975 Larry Bowa…

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bowala01.shtml
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on September 07, 2022, 06:38:26 pm
reb, I saw that hit.  On contact, instant instinct was "hit for sure".  Then, before camera or ball got to the outfield, mind flashed to "But it's Madrigal..." and it barely landed.  Having so little space is really touch for him. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 07, 2022, 06:53:33 pm
The unknown variable is whether or not he CAN drive the ball.  He's been successful up until now doing what's he's done.  If they take his bread-and-butter away, can he make an adjustment?  Jose Altuve is a weird outlier, of course, but Madrigal is physically larger than Altuve.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 07, 2022, 07:52:21 pm
The unknown variable is whether or not he CAN drive the ball.  He's been successful up until now doing what's he's done.  If they take his bread-and-butter away, can he make an adjustment?  Jose Altuve is a weird outlier, of course, but Madrigal is physically larger than Altuve.

The problem is the league has adjusted to what he’s done, and is playing with seven infielders now.  And Madrigal’s hard hit % has never been especially high.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 07, 2022, 08:18:57 pm
The problem is the league has adjusted to what he’s done, and is playing with seven infielders now.  And Madrigal’s hard hit % has never been especially high.

Understood.  The point is - could he change?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CUBluejays on September 07, 2022, 08:23:53 pm
Madrigal has a 109 wRC+ in the second half. Maybe he just got healthy.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on September 07, 2022, 08:28:53 pm
Aquino and Nootbar will both be able to thank the Cubs when they get in the Hall.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 07, 2022, 08:49:08 pm
Understood.  The point is - could he change?

Could he?  Sure.  Give him a chance to show it as long as he’s not blocking anyone potentially better.  Is it likely?  I wouldn’t think so.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 07, 2022, 08:58:44 pm
I just hope they don't forget the lesson that caused them to acquire Madrigal in the first place.  A one-dimensional offense.  In the right mix, he can be very useful.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 07, 2022, 09:02:32 pm
The unknown variable is whether or not he CAN drive the ball.  He's been successful up until now doing what's he's done.  If they take his bread-and-butter away, can he make an adjustment?  Jose Altuve is a weird outlier, of course, but Madrigal is physically larger than Altuve.

Last 100 or so PAs, Madrigal K rate is minuscule by today’s standards. And he might hit the ball anywhere within a certain distance from home plate. Hit’em where they ain’t.

Dead ball era OFers played pretty close in and guys still were able to hit .300. There are still holes if you hit it all over and put the ball in play.

He’s such an oddity. It’s like a guy from a different era shows up and says look at this. Think he’s fun to watch and will be curious to see how it plays out.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on September 07, 2022, 11:20:04 pm
I just hope they don't forget the lesson that caused them to acquire Madrigal in the first place.  A one-dimensional offense.  In the right mix, he can be very useful.

It was only two years ago when the consensus on the board was that the Cubs had too many similar hitters.  Everyone struck out too much.  Too many solo home runs.  Too low OBA.  We needed to get some contact hitters that were not merely three true outcome hitters.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on September 07, 2022, 11:25:16 pm
It was only two years ago when the consensus on the board was that the Cubs had too many similar hitters.  Everyone struck out too much.  Too many solo home runs.  Too low OBA.  We needed to get some contact hitters that were not merely three true outcome hitters.
aaaa...Davep, that's what Jeff was saying.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 08, 2022, 12:48:13 am
It would be a lot easier to imagine Madrigal as a plus player if he offered anything besides contact - elite defense, defensive versatility, lots of walks and 40 SB at the top of the order, any power at all.  But he’s a guy that basically does one thing very, very well - not strike out.  And it’s not a skill that’s considered hugely useful in the modern game.  He’s not a great defender, he can only play one position, he has zero power, he rarely walks or steals a base.

Even if you imagine an upside of a .330 or .340 OBP, you have to squint pretty hard to see anything more than an adequate 2B defender with a sub-.700 OPS.  That guy is not really someone who projects as a regular on a playoff contender.  If he can go back to hitting .340 or slugging .400, that’s another matter - but with his contact numbers against the alignments he’s facing in the field, kind of hard to imagine him doing that over an entire season.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on September 08, 2022, 10:36:22 am
aaaa...Davep, that's what Jeff was saying.

Yes.  And I was agreeing with him.  Some others do not.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 08, 2022, 01:11:23 pm
YouTube broadcast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc2SSlcl2Ek&ab_channel=MLB
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 08, 2022, 03:23:09 pm
I’m sure TJ Friedl is a stand up guy, and he’s a good ballplayer, with good skills…but he’s having a miserable day in CF today…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on September 08, 2022, 03:31:49 pm
Ortega has no business being on a ML roster.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 08, 2022, 03:59:10 pm
Neither does Wick…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 08, 2022, 04:38:49 pm

Reds win 4-3.  Leiter deserves his blown save.    Wick should get one too.

Reds relievers threw strikes, the Cubs revlievers did not.

YouTube play-by-play announcer Scott Braun and analyst Yonder Alonso did not even try to hide their Reds favoritism.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 08, 2022, 04:40:04 pm
The Reds are a team we could still catch for bottom six.  Good series to lose.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 08, 2022, 04:41:00 pm
You could change the announcers on YouTube. I listened to the Cubs radio feed. It was, needless to say, much better.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 08, 2022, 04:41:26 pm
Neither does Wick…

Neither does McKinstry.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 08, 2022, 04:42:43 pm
There are quite a few who will not be around as part of TNGCT…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 08, 2022, 04:54:41 pm
Paid attendance on a beautiful day- 23,910

Saying there were 10,000 fans in the stands would be very generous.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 08, 2022, 05:30:22 pm
Neither does McKinstry.

McKinstry is an object lesson for all the prospect watchers who want every young player in the minor leagues who hits well to get a shot in the big leagues.

Scouting and tools matter.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 08, 2022, 05:46:54 pm
https://youtu.be/YfsnJAM-DOs
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 08, 2022, 05:55:55 pm
McKinstry is an object lesson for all the prospect watchers who want every young player in the minor leagues who hits well to get a shot in the big leagues.

Scouting and tools matter.

And to every GM on a tanking team about what sort of player they should target in trades.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on September 08, 2022, 10:56:35 pm
I've been a fan of Wick's for a long time, but I'm throwing in the towel.  Looking at the 40 man, he's an easy DFA.  Is Hank the Tank still on the 40 man?  If so, why?  There's a number of guys I just don't see as part of our future.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 08, 2022, 11:10:57 pm
I've been a fan of Wick's for a long time, but I'm throwing in the towel.  Looking at the 40 man, he's an easy DFA.  Is Hank the Tank still on the 40 man?  If so, why?  There's a number of guys I just don't see as part of our future.

They'll be cut loose in good time.  I hate to see Wick go, but his performance this year is pretty grisly.  Not impossible they could expose him and he goes undrafted.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 09, 2022, 01:36:22 pm
Wick is not really a Rule 5 candidate.

If/when Cubs take Wick off the 40-man, he is subject to a waiver claim.

Then, even if not claimed on waivers, Wick can decline an outright and become a free agent (because he’s been outrighted before).

Only Rule 5 scenario would be if he voluntarily accepts a minor league outright to stay with Cubs (and foregoes free agency) and THEN is selected in Rule 5. This is very unlikely because an interested club could have previously signed him as a free agent without the Rule 5 restrictions.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on September 11, 2022, 07:17:11 pm
Doesn’t look like many folks are at the game.  Can’t sell hot dogs and peanuts and beer if nobody’s in the stands.  Nobody is in the stands.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: dogstoothe on September 11, 2022, 07:20:30 pm
Is this a minor league game?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 11, 2022, 10:23:03 pm
Gomes, Bote (nice to see him back), and McKinstry to try to mount a comeback in the bottom of the ninth.

Camilo Doval, number 75 (remember when Barry Zito wore that and it looked unusual), trying to close it out.  And he starts things off by hitting Yan with a 100-MPH pitch.

Painful way to get a rally started!


Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 11, 2022, 10:26:51 pm
Doval's pitches have tremendous movement but he can't find the plate.  Joey Bart comes out to the mound with a 3-1 count; hopefully he can't settle Doval down just yet.

And Bote takes a big swing at a 100-MPH pitch and misses it.  Full count.

Now he hits a double-play grounder.  McKinstry is the Cubs' last hope, and the only person standing between them and the guarantee of a losing season for this 58-81 team.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 11, 2022, 10:30:30 pm
The Giants leave a ton of open area down the right field line, and McKinstry lines one right there and has an easy triple. 

Wisdom comes up as the tying run.  And he grounds to Flores at second; close play at first, but he's out.  Giants win.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 11, 2022, 10:37:21 pm
Doesn’t look like many folks are at the game.  Can’t sell hot dogs and peanuts and beer if nobody’s in the stands.  Nobody is in the stands.

Good.  That’s called incentive.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 12, 2022, 04:18:56 pm
(https://radar.cbslocal.com/wcbs/wcbstristateradar.gif)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 12, 2022, 07:46:45 pm
Staked to a 5-0 lead with the Cubs scoring in three different innings, Javier Assad finds himself in trouble in the fourth.  He strikes Naquin out for the second out but then gives up a single to McCann, scoring Escobar with the Mets' first run.  Nimmo strikes out swinging to end the inning, so the Cubs are still up by four.

This would be a nice game to win; the gamblers seem to have placed 94% of their bets on the Mets before the game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 12, 2022, 07:52:11 pm
Listening to Mets broadcast of Cubs/Mets game.

A pleasure to hear a broadcast team that actually calls the ballgame in contrast to Boog’s meanderings when he loses interest in the game actually being played.

Anyway, lot of focus on Assad’s repertoire and how he’s working hitters by Keith Hernandez and Gary Cohen. They really like what he’s doing thru 4 innings. JD could do this more as he knows pitching but not really a big part of modus operandi of Cubs broadcast production.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 12, 2022, 08:27:28 pm
Really outstanding outing by Assad.

Five hits allowed but two of those were botched defensive plays: a ground single off Wisdom’s glove ruled a hit and a misplay by Ortega in CF on a triple where Ortega did everything wrong that a CF can do wrong on a ball hit over his head. Also, Cubs botched a DP grounder when Morel at SS took 10 minutes getting the ball out of his glove on a feed from McKinstry.

Sharp breaking stuff tonight and toughness pitching with men on base. Assad looking like a keeper.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 12, 2022, 08:29:59 pm
Leiter in to relieve Assad for the seventh.  Great outing for Assad.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 12, 2022, 08:33:30 pm
Leiter gets them out and we're in the eighth.  Recent Cub Mychal Givens, bringing his number 60 wherever he goes, is in for the Mets and McKinstry greets him with a single.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 12, 2022, 09:09:40 pm
Hughes, in relief of Rodriguez, gets the Cubs out of what had been a bases-loaded, no-out panic with Escobar and Ruf both flying out.

Still 5-1, going to the ninth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 12, 2022, 09:16:07 pm
Hughes is staying in to try to get the Mets out and earn a very impressive save.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 12, 2022, 09:23:20 pm
With the Mets down to their last out, Lindor hits a homer, but McNeil grounds to second and the Cubs win!  Great first major league win for Assad!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 13, 2022, 07:39:34 pm
Cubs lead 1-0 in the fourth and we've just had two questionable calls in the same at-bat.

Ortega tries to bunt and the ball hits his fingers, injuring him to the point where he has to come out of the game.  But it's ruled a foul ball, not a hit batsman, though it hit his finger and not the bat.  Could have gone either way.

Hermosillo has to come in as a pinch hitter against de Grom with an 0-2 count.  Not much fun... and he surprises everybody by bunting, and gets the bunt down.  De Grom fields it and hits Hermosillo in the back of the head with the throw... and Hermosillo is ruled safe even though he was clearly running inside the baseline.

So two calls that could have gone either way, and the Cubs get the result that they perhaps should have had to start with: batter to first, bases loaded.

Now Yan Gomes hits a sacrifice fly to right to get the lead runner in.  2-0.

And Wisdom follows with yet another sac bunt, and Happ races home with the third run.

Rivas flies to center, and without a man on third the Cubs are deprived of a chance to have yet another sacrifice.

And Bote pops out to the catcher in foul territory, ending the inning.  Cubs get two more, and it's 3-0.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 13, 2022, 07:47:29 pm
Sampson gets through the fourth, aided by a great running catch in right-center field from Hermosillo on a ball that carried further than it looked like it was going to.

McKinstry to start the fifth.  De Grom throwing his 74th pitch already.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 13, 2022, 07:57:53 pm
Sampson gets Nimmo on a called third strike at the very bottom of the zone; Nimmo starts running to first but the ump isn't having it.

Through 5, still 3-0 Cubs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on September 13, 2022, 08:01:39 pm
Sampson DeGrom matchup, who'd have guessed it's all Sampson?  Baseball is fun. 

Were I a Mets fan, I think I'd be pretty bummed with their offense.  Maybe if I were a Mets fan, I might have even wanted to acquire a catcher like Willson who could hit. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on September 13, 2022, 08:02:48 pm
Taffy, as long as a hitters fingers are on the bat, they are considered part of the bat.   Off the bat it's a hit batsman.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 13, 2022, 08:08:28 pm
Sampson's leadoff walk of Lindor is erased by a 4-6-3 double play grounder to McKinstry with Bote making a nice catch and throw.

And Alonso skies to Hermosillo in center; Sampson is through six at about 90 pitches.

Taffy, as long as a hitters fingers are on the bat, they are considered part of the bat.   Off the bat it's a hit batsman.

That's how I learned it as a kid but I've seen balls hit people's fingers and hands and they've gone as HBP and not strikes.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 13, 2022, 08:10:59 pm
Is McKinstry-Bote the least athletic keystone combo in MLB history?  Discuss.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 13, 2022, 08:19:51 pm
Seth Lugo is in to pitch, Bote hits his first home run in over two months to give the Cubs a 4-0 lead.

On to the seventh, where Michael Rucker will replace Sampson.  Great night for Adrian Sampson; we're getting a lot of those from our starters.  About the only complaint you can make is that they're not going all that deep into games, but even then by today's standards they're fine.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 13, 2022, 08:34:42 pm
Cubs can't add on in the eighth, stranding Suzuki at third after his infield hit followed by a ridiculous wild pitch from Ottavino and then a steal of third (the Cubs' 16th of the year, leading the league).  Reyes had a 3-0 count, but Ottavino came back to strike him out and then get two more harmless outs.

Still 4-0, going to the bottom half of the eighth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 13, 2022, 08:42:44 pm
Hughes relieves Rucker with one out and a man on first in the eighth.  He pitched 1 2/3 last night to hold the lead last night; can he do the same thing tonight?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 13, 2022, 08:50:22 pm
Hughes gets through the eighth, and Edwin Diaz is coming in for the ninth just to get some work.

Yan Gomes greets him with a leadoff single.  Let's get some insurance and make Diaz unavailable tomorrow.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 13, 2022, 08:55:52 pm
Gomes steals second and Rivas bunts for a hit.  First and third with one out.  Maybe we can manufacture the run we couldn't get against Ottavino.

But Bote, like Wisdom, strikes out on a pitch low and away, and McKinstry, who has struck out three times today, is the last chance to get this insurance run in.  Rivas steals second to get into scoring position; let's see a hit here.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 13, 2022, 09:06:11 pm
No luck with McKinstry; Diaz strikes him out, improving his already-crazy ratio of striking out 40% of the batters he faces: this time he allows two hits but strikes out the other three.

Hughes staying in to try to preserve the win.

JD notes that the Cubs have struck out 16 times today without taking a walk.  Usually a team that does that loses, but today we're on the winning side.

Happ makes a nice sliding catch coming in on a sinking liner.  One out.

Now Alonso hits a titanic homer to cut the lead to three.

A fly to center and now a walk to Canha.  Escobar coming up as the Mets' last hope; let's get him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 13, 2022, 09:08:12 pm
Hughes paints the outside corner for strike two and then gets Escobar on a pop-up to McKinstry.  Cubs win!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 13, 2022, 10:23:36 pm
Cubs win with offense going 0 walks and 16 Ks.

Pitching holds Mets to 7 TB.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 14, 2022, 12:30:46 am

..Ortega tries to bunt and the ball hits his fingers, injuring him to the point where he has to come out of the game….

Sahadev Sharma

@sahadevsharma
Left ring finger fracture for Rafael Ortega. His season is over.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on September 14, 2022, 03:40:21 pm
Davis?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 14, 2022, 05:54:19 pm
Hermosillo...
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 14, 2022, 06:07:19 pm
Young.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 14, 2022, 06:32:05 pm
Cubs open up a 4-0 lead with just one out in the first, and already the Mets are going to the pen.  Three walks and two hits sandwiching a Wisdom strikeout.  And now Hermosillo doubles to bring Higgins in with the fifth run.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 14, 2022, 06:45:08 pm
Hermosillo comes in with the sixth run on a Velazquez single and then the Mets finally get out of the inning.

Smyly should have a stress-free day today, but then again, you never know how a baseball game is going to go.  How amazing would it be to win three straight from this Mets team?  If the Braves overtake them to win the division, people will be talking about this series for a long time. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dihard on September 14, 2022, 07:08:39 pm
One out in the 3rd. The Cubs have 6 runs, and 7 strikeouts.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on September 14, 2022, 07:19:15 pm
I think everyone saw the Cubs going to Queens and smacking the Mets around....
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 14, 2022, 07:34:23 pm
Mets get a run back on a Tomas Nido homer.

This game reminds me of a Cubs-Mets game I went to at Shea Stadium back in the '90s.  It was the end of the school year and my father gave me a ticket; we rode out to his office in Queens and I stayed on the 7 train to go to the game.  The Cubs got 7 runs in the first inning and the game was never in any doubt. The only question was whether Maddux would get the complete game, and unfortunately our manager took him out and had Jim Bullinger pitch the ninth.

Only the next day did I learn of the drama in the first inning.  Bobby Bonilla had misplayed a ball and, between innings, called the official scorer on the dugout phone to complain about it being an error.  After that he got booed so loudly that he had to put earplugs in when taking the field.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 14, 2022, 07:55:33 pm
Trevor Williams, who pitched for us as recently as last year, when our team was still good, has done a nice job in long relief for the Mets.  He's coming out in favor of Tommy Hunter, who was also once a Cub.  Don't they have Rob Zastryzyny on their roster too?  I'd love to see him pitch and succeed with them.  (They don't; he pitched one game for them last month but was released and picked up by the Angels.)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 14, 2022, 08:25:57 pm
Smyly is lifted after just five innings, and 77 pitches.  Uelmen gets them through the sixth. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 14, 2022, 08:51:24 pm
Luis Guillorme pinch hits for Ruf and singles.  His career began in 2018, but it feels like he's been a Met for a long longer than that.  He gets stranded at second, though, as Wick works out of the jam.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dihard on September 14, 2022, 09:31:34 pm
Cubs sweep the Mets! Holy cow! (And holy #%*!)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 14, 2022, 09:36:25 pm
Leiter Jr. coming in to try to finish up.  He hits a man with a pitch, but then gets a fly out and erases the runner in a double play for a 1-2-3 inning.

Cubs win!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on September 14, 2022, 09:58:40 pm
This was predictable.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 16, 2022, 02:45:11 pm
McKinstry seems to be finding his groove…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 16, 2022, 03:46:06 pm
2-1 final
Game time 2:11

(http://mlb.mlb.com/assets/images/7/1/4/201585714/091516_cubs_flag_med_3_fqqoz3ho.gif)
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 16, 2022, 04:49:33 pm
Both Cubs and Rockies saw only 108 pitches each.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 16, 2022, 06:20:24 pm
https://youtu.be/Y8wbrRArIH8
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on September 16, 2022, 06:22:43 pm
The tank isn't going that well.  All the effective pitching, much by unexpected and unremarkable guys, is kinda killing the tank!  :):)

I didn't watch it, but I like having Manny with the 1-2-3 11-pitch save.  I still have hopes that he'll eventually settle in and throw enough strikes to be a useful reliever for the Cubs. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 17, 2022, 02:36:34 pm
Don’t think I’ve ever seen a starting pitcher who doesn’t want to sit down when not pitching. Wesneski just paces.

56 pitches thru 5 shutout innings.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on September 18, 2022, 04:27:48 pm
Home plate up botches strike 3 calls on both of the Cubs first 2 hitters in the 9th.

Robo umps pls.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 18, 2022, 07:10:56 pm
https://youtu.be/6OQ9Jy9KfKI
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 18, 2022, 07:14:02 pm
Home plate up botches strike 3 calls on both of the Cubs first 2 hitters in the 9th.

Robo umps pls.
The highlights show both pitches.  Go to the 6:25 mark.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 19, 2022, 07:06:34 pm
Cubs down 7-3 in the 5th.

Joe Girardi and Ryan Dempster seem to be getting along fine.  There was definitely some friction between the two last time.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 19, 2022, 07:24:03 pm
Estrada looking good.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 19, 2022, 07:33:31 pm
I understand that it's a very tough job, but MLB umpires are THE WORST.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 20, 2022, 08:13:19 pm
Hermosillo, McKinstry, Quiroz, and Bote combine to manufacture the go-ahead run: a HBP, a sacrifice bunt, an infield single, and a sacrifice fly, culminating in Hermosillo coming in to score.

Hope it holds up!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 20, 2022, 08:34:27 pm
Hughes comes in and shuts the Marlins down; Cubs win.

First win in a very long time for Alzolay, who pitched two scoreless innings in relief of Sampson, who himself had another good outing.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on September 20, 2022, 08:43:55 pm
That lineup the Cubs threw out reminds me of the Mike Quade days.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 20, 2022, 09:46:12 pm
The Cubs actually got on a winning streak right when Quade took over, and early the next season, when they were losing again, there was an on-screen graphic saying that Quade had a .650 winning percentage as Cubs manager.  I thought it was a typo until I remembered that they had won a lot while playing out the string the year before.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on September 20, 2022, 10:29:43 pm
I know he doesn't throw hard, but is Sampson in the mix for the rotation next year?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on September 21, 2022, 12:42:00 pm
That was quite a nice win last night.  Good synergy between Sampson getting relatively soft contact and really strong defense.  Great to see Alzolay looking solid in a multiple inning outing.  And Quiroz with an outstanding game.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 21, 2022, 06:48:02 pm
I think Luzardo is very similar to how Wicks will be.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 21, 2022, 08:03:40 pm
Franmil Reyes pinch hit for by Alfonso Rivas.  I believe this is the point where you announce your retirement from professional baseball.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 21, 2022, 08:13:47 pm
Keegan pitches around a leadoff walk to strand the tying run; going to the ninth leading 4-3.  Let's get some insurance.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 21, 2022, 08:30:02 pm
A two-out double is left on base as Thompson strikes Groshans out to end the game.  Cubs win!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 22, 2022, 05:35:53 pm
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Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 22, 2022, 05:45:08 pm
Pittsburgh Pirates  @Pirates  35m
We anticipate a brief delay to the start of tonight’s game.

Our estimated start time is now 7 pm
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 22, 2022, 07:25:11 pm
Immaculate inning for Wesneski in the 5th inning!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 22, 2022, 07:25:19 pm
Wesneski just had an immaculate inning in the bottom of the 5th.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 22, 2022, 07:27:20 pm
Broadcast says fifth time in Cubs history.

But, think that’s since 1971.

Maybe don’t have the pitch-by-pitch data pre-1971?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 22, 2022, 07:47:12 pm
Broadcast says fifth time in Cubs history.

Milt Pappas, Bruce Sutter, Lynn McGlothen, LaTroy Hawkins, Hayden Wesneski
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 22, 2022, 08:57:52 pm
Leiter is struggling with his control today.  He got through the eighth, but he hits a batter to bring the winning run to the plate in the ninth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 22, 2022, 09:04:45 pm
Wesneski has been impressive, no question.  Mostly against bad teams.  I wonder if he can sustain success as a SP relying so heavily on one pitch - no doubt the slider is very good, but the league catches on to things eventually.  Are his other pitches good enough to deal with that?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 22, 2022, 09:07:12 pm
Leiter survives a very shaky ninth to end the game with a fly to center from Rodolfo Castro.

Great outing for Wesneski.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 22, 2022, 10:13:41 pm
@MLBastian

Catcher Yan Gomes has now caught five Immaculate Innings: Hayden Wesneski (tonight), Kyle Finnegan (May 5, 2021), Stephen Strasburg (July 3, 2019), Carlos Carrasco (July 7, 2017) and Justin Masterson (June 2, 2014).
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 23, 2022, 12:31:26 am
In 15⅔ innings Hayden Wesneski has given up 9 hits and walked 2 for a WHP of 0.70
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 23, 2022, 02:36:22 am
Leiter threw 23 change ups tonight out of his 41 pitches and got 7 swings-and-misses out of the 23. One ball in play on the pitch, with soft contact.

That’s a really good pitch for him if he can throw it like he did tonight.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: ticohans on September 23, 2022, 06:58:06 pm
Leiter's combo of K rate, BB rate, and GB rate in relief this year is pretty special. Not saying it will continue into the future, but he's been great out of the pen.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 23, 2022, 07:10:46 pm
McKinstry continues to hit like a guy who wants to stick around…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 23, 2022, 07:30:36 pm
McKinstry continues to hit like a guy who wants to stick around…

The thing is that he doesn't have to hit that much to be pretty valuable.  If he can land in that .675-.700 OPS range, he'll be rosterable.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 23, 2022, 07:43:59 pm
McKinstry walks on a pitch right at the letters.  I can't understand this new strike zone in which seemingly anything above the belt is a ball.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 23, 2022, 07:45:50 pm
After two walks with the bases loaded to let the Cubs tie the game, the Pirates suffer some tough luck: Quiroz hits a grounder with such a high chop that the infielders have no play; everybody is safe and the Cubs lead 5-4.  Bases still loaded; still one man out.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 23, 2022, 07:52:10 pm
Pirates pitcher Manny Bañuelos makes an amazing play to get the Pirates out of the inning.  He throws what looks like a wild pitch -- it bounces high in the air, perhaps hitting the catcher's knee or foot -- and runs forward to grab it himself, tagging Morel as he tries to score.  The umpires call him safe but the call is overturned.  What an amazing play. 

Cubs still lead, though we might regret not getting more.  Does the catcher get an assist on that play?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on September 23, 2022, 07:53:21 pm
Javy would have been safe.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 23, 2022, 08:04:19 pm
After the historical humiliation Javy gave the Pirates last season, I guess they deserve a highlight-reel play like that one.

And some nice range from Quiroz gets Ji-Hwan Bae, making his major league debut, out on a bang-bang play to end the inning.

Now let's get a few more runs.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 23, 2022, 08:16:16 pm
With Manny Rodriguez in to pitch, Brian Reynolds hits a homer to center field to tie the game.  It didn't look like a homer coming off the bat, but it just kept carrying.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 23, 2022, 08:30:45 pm
Runners at first and second and Morel makes a perfect sacrifice bunt to move then each up one base.

Then a grounder to Bae at second who throws home to nail Higgins at the plate.

But with two outs and runners at first and third, Quiroz puts a ball in the left field corner to get the lead run in!

Bote follows with the third out, but the Cubs lead 6-5 going to the bottom of the eighth.  Quiroz has his first two major league RBI today.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 23, 2022, 08:39:27 pm
Michael Chavis is 0 for his last 16, and he keeps it going with a timely 6-4-3 double play to end the inning.

Cubs still lead by one, going to the ninth.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 23, 2022, 08:49:12 pm
Velazquez tries to steal second and does some great dodging to evade a tag but is called out.  It looks like he clearly evaded it, and if his fingers came off the bag after the tag, it was the infielder pushing his arm off.

They're reviewing it, and they overturn it and call him safe.  Good review.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 23, 2022, 08:57:05 pm
Pirates get out of the inning with a strikeout.  Bottom of the ninth; Erich Uelmen is coming in to try to save it.  It would be his first-ever major league save if he can get it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 23, 2022, 09:06:44 pm
Bae gets his first major league hit and Uelmen can't stop throwing over to first.

Oneil Cruz is up and it feels like Uelmen is in a pickle even though it's just one baserunner.  Now a mound visit.

And Cruz hits a very long fly ball to left that Happ tracks down.  Two outs for Bryan Reynolds, who homered last time up.  Please don't do it again.

...and he won't, because Bae has stolen second and they're walking Reynolds.

This will be a pretty exciting game no matter how it turns out.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 23, 2022, 09:09:40 pm
Uelmen is looking pretty nervous out there.  He walks Castro to load the bases.

Cal Mitchell coming up to try to walk things off for the Pirates.  Come on, Uelmen.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 23, 2022, 09:11:58 pm
Uelmen is all over the place but Mitchell is swinging at bad pitches.  He almost goes for one but Laz Diaz says no swing.

Count is 2-2.  ...and Uelmen finally finds the plate, and blows it past Uelmen to end the game!  Cubs win!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 24, 2022, 08:02:26 pm
McKinstry continues to hit like a guy who wants to stick around…

.197 BA, .634 OPS.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 25, 2022, 05:16:14 pm
Brandon Hughes throws five pitches to one hitter and earns a save.  The Cubs were up 8-3 and the Pirates had the bases loaded with two outs.

https://youtu.be/2DSog2RUeM8
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 25, 2022, 06:02:01 pm
Does it seem like Hughes pitches pretty much every day?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 25, 2022, 06:04:51 pm
It does, but the reality is different.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 25, 2022, 07:05:28 pm
Given that Ross likes to use Hughes when we're ahead, I'm happy to see him in the game so often.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on September 27, 2022, 07:47:00 pm
All the rule changes in baseball you'd think they'd do something about calling runners out who pop off 2nd after being safe.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 27, 2022, 07:57:53 pm
All the rule changes in baseball you'd think they'd do something about calling runners out who pop off 2nd after being safe.

They really need to do something about this.  I'd propose having the airspace a few inches above the base be considered to still be part of the base once you've touched the base for the first time.  Having to maintain continuous contact with it while sliding is just crazy.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 27, 2022, 08:46:39 pm
Cubs grab a 2-1 lead as Happ legs out an infield single and comes in to score on a Gomes double.

Stroman is in line for the win now, and comes out of the game in favor of Hughes. 7 innings, 97 pitches.  I'm surprised he only has 4 wins this year; it feels like he should have more.

And Hughes works around a walk to Schwarber with a 5-4-3 double play, something the Cubs have been getting a lot of tonight.  Really good solid infield defense.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 27, 2022, 08:56:24 pm
Bryce Harper leads off the ninth with a single, and Rodriguez is being summoned to replace Hughes.

I would have liked to see Hughes go for the two-inning save, but Ross has made his decision.  Nobody out, man at first for the Phillies in the ninth inning.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 27, 2022, 08:59:57 pm
The grounders continue: one to shortstop that is almost a double play, but Realmuto beats it out at first.

Then Bohm hits one to second and this time they turn the 4-6-3 DP to end the game.  Cubs win!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 27, 2022, 09:31:03 pm
Two pitches to get three outs…nice SAVE Manny!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 27, 2022, 10:51:35 pm
All the rule changes in baseball you'd think they'd do something about calling runners out who pop off 2nd after being safe.

Hardly anybody really likes this development under replay but the problem is how to write a rule that can distinguish between sliding off the bag--the way runners have been called out for over 100 years--and being off the bag for a second, today.  Off the bag is off the bag.  How do you draft a rule that works as before?  It's not just "above the base" but all sides of the base.  In some cases, even in the old days, the runner might be blatantly above the base and should be called out. 

Think it would have been done, as few like what's going on, but nobody has come up with a way to draft a rule that makes sense.  Maybe somebody will.  Hold a contest.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on September 27, 2022, 11:19:56 pm
I think when baserunner a hits the bag play is dead and over unless he makes an attempt to go to third.

Contreras beat this throw tonight but came off the bag due to momentm and he's out. It would've been a homer in 20 parks and he ends up with a single and an out.

https://twitter.com/MLBReplays/status/1574965656436416512
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 28, 2022, 01:26:33 am
I think when baserunner a hits the bag play is dead and over unless he makes an attempt to go to third....



Look at this link.  Almost all of these slides are runners hitting the bag initially and then sliding off and called out.  They should be outs.  If the rule was that play becomes dead when runner hits the base, it would make little sense for these guys to be called safe.  Note particularly Cespedes slide at 2:15.  Also, what if ump badly misses the call on these plays and calls safe?  Need replay for that.  So, how do you write the rule?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEthP5ZQq6U

 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Ron on September 28, 2022, 09:19:14 am
Watching a number of those slides, my own sense is that some were so clearly off the bag (well past the bag etc) they should be called out, while others were so minimally so briefly off the bag that they should not have been called out. But that probably underscores the problem of having any nuanced rule to allow for variation. Too bad.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on September 28, 2022, 09:37:35 am
Replay isn't the problem.  Slow motion is the problem.  Calls get reversed because things are seen in slow motion that the umpire misses in real time.

I have no solution, but we have special rules here and there.  Home plate can't be blocked. (Anymore)  You can overrun first base.  (Out only if you make a move toward second.)  I would hate to see a rule that you can overrun second and third as long as you don't make a move toward the next base.   They claim that the new bigger bases will help, but I don't see it.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on September 28, 2022, 09:58:31 am
Probably best to keep the rule as it is and put more effort into teaching proper sliding technique.  Perhaps not allow a fielder to make contact with the runner in a way that moves him off the base.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on September 28, 2022, 11:20:12 am
I thought they were crazy to call up Quiroz, and he still has almost no chance to be with the team next year.  But I have been surprised by his performance, both offensively and defensively, since joining the team.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on September 28, 2022, 11:58:31 am
Agree.  He seems to have a high baseball IQ and is making the most of his opportunity.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 28, 2022, 12:23:40 pm
I thought they were crazy to call up Quiroz, and he still has almost no chance to be with the team next year.  But I have been surprised by his performance, both offensively and defensively, since joining the team.

You are surprised by what a solid AAA player does during 9 games and 30 PAs in the majors?

We just saw Frank Schwindel put up a 1002 OPS during 239 PAs—joining about a million other SSS flukes in MLB history.

The explanation for Quiroz is clear:

That’s Baseball!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 28, 2022, 12:35:29 pm
And, once in a while with a SSS fluke, he turns into The Real Thing.

And we know why this happens:

That’s Baseball!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 28, 2022, 12:54:01 pm
Neither Quiroz nor Schwindel had anything to lose…they were long past prospect status.

Get your chance and go balls out…and what happens, happens…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on September 28, 2022, 04:39:10 pm
You are surprised by what a solid AAA player does during 9 games and 30 PAs in the majors?

We just saw Frank Schwindel put up a 1002 OPS during 239 PAs—joining about a million other SSS flukes in MLB history.

The explanation for Quiroz is clear:

That’s Baseball!

Yes, that is baseball.  Since you are the repository of all baseball wisdom, when was the last time that a 30 year old rookie hit 108 points higher in his first 30 at bats in the majors than he did in the minors?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on September 28, 2022, 07:27:19 pm
Yes, that is baseball.  Since you are the repository of all baseball wisdom, when was the last time that a 30 year old rookie hit 108 points higher in his first 30 at bats in the majors than he did in the minors?

You just defined (and emphasized) what fluke means.

That was  exactly my point. So, thanks. No baseball wisdom necessary.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 28, 2022, 07:38:11 pm
The thing that confuses me about the Contreras play is why it's scored a single and not a double.  He reached second base safely the moment his hand hit the base; he came off the base an instant *after* that, *beyond* the base, so shouldn't it be a double with him being put out trying to take the next base?  He's *past* second base.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Playtwo on September 28, 2022, 07:39:58 pm
I don't believe you are considered to have reached the base safely if you are tagged out after over-sliding or coming off the base.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 28, 2022, 07:58:59 pm
That seems illogical to me.  If you're running (not sliding) and you run over second base and are tagged from behind by the fielder, isn't it a double with you being out trying for a triple?  But if you have a double but over-*slide* the base, the moment you get tagged *after oversliding*, your two-base hit turns back into a one-base hit?

Also I see Wesneski just got out of a one-out bases loaded situation to keep the Phillies' lead at 1; nice job.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 28, 2022, 08:00:48 pm
Strike zone is a little one sided, it appears…Nola getting everything, and Wesneski getting nothing…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 28, 2022, 08:40:53 pm
Hoerner scores on a fielder's choice to tie it, and Morel hits a three-run homer to give the Cubs a 4-1 lead.

Leiter is coming in for Wesneski, who only threw 85 pitches over 5 innings. After that upset of de Grom by Assad a while back, it would be great for Wesneski to beat Nola today.  Our rookies sure can pitch.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 28, 2022, 09:09:00 pm
With a fielder's choice scoring Schwarber, Alzolay is coming in and has a 6.43 ERA but a WHIP of only 0.86: of the six baserunners he has allowed in seven innings of work, five have scored.  Unlucky.

But he gets the Cubs through the inning with no further damage.  Still 4-2.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 28, 2022, 09:28:25 pm
Hughes, increasingly Ross's go-to guy in the late innings, strikes Vierling and Schwarber out to end another threat.

If the Cubs can hold on here, they will be 5-0 against the Phillies this year so far.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 28, 2022, 09:39:36 pm
Man-Rod in to get the save.  Get us a nice easy one!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 28, 2022, 09:44:15 pm
And he gets it!  Cubs win again!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on September 28, 2022, 09:48:25 pm
Rodriguez wraps it up.  Nice work.  I'd like to see what he could do with a full healthy season. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 29, 2022, 06:40:50 pm
https://youtu.be/60Ak_AaAU_Y
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on September 29, 2022, 07:57:38 pm
Another win today (2-0 this time; 3-inning save from Keegan), and with it the Cubs have swept the 6-game season series from Philadelphia.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 29, 2022, 09:07:16 pm
Phillies protesting the game on grounds that it’s not an official game if Hughes doesn’t pitch.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on September 30, 2022, 04:59:44 pm
https://youtu.be/zJWbemnb7gw
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on September 30, 2022, 06:44:27 pm
Cubs have won 9 of 10.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on September 30, 2022, 07:06:39 pm
The tank is not working very well.  If it was today, we'd be 12th in ping-pong balls. 

Question:  The lottery will only apply for the first half of the first round, correct?  If the Cubs, for hypothetical example, got the first pick, they'd still be picking 12th or 13th in rounds 2-20, correct? 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on September 30, 2022, 07:48:11 pm
The tank is not working very well.  If it was today, we'd be 12th in ping-pong balls. 

Question:  The lottery will only apply for the first half of the first round, correct?  If the Cubs, for hypothetical example, got the first pick, they'd still be picking 12th or 13th in rounds 2-20, correct? 

Correkit.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Chris27 on October 01, 2022, 03:54:30 pm
Cubs muster three hits but still win their 10th of 11.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on October 01, 2022, 04:02:11 pm
Cincy has two Farmers but only one Steer.  Not very efficient.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on October 01, 2022, 04:06:28 pm
Alzolay 6 swing-and-misses on his 18 sliders.

Three perfect innings.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on October 01, 2022, 05:25:10 pm
https://youtu.be/5hhG_B_NBQQ
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on October 01, 2022, 09:28:58 pm
Alzolay 6 swing-and-misses on his 18 sliders.

Three perfect innings.

Yeah, I watched his innings, he looked really sharp.  Promising. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on October 01, 2022, 11:06:13 pm
I'm a Rodriguez optimist, but he was unable to close the save, walking a guy with two outs and getting pulled.  At least today, he didn't command his offspeed.  Threw several fastballs that just missed, hitter laid off, and ump didn't give him any breaks on a couple that were an inch high. 

I really like his fastball, though.  It's both fast and it seems to have a lot of movement.  I think he can probably get away throwing fastballs most of the time, his velocity/movement is so good.  But *if* he could hypothetically also get his breaking ball over with reasonable consistency, he might hypothetically become really effective. 

Think he's got a chance to be an integral part of a winning bullpen. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on October 02, 2022, 02:46:15 am
I’m a bit less optimistic about Rodriguez.

Just seems like hitters are pretty comfortable against him. Has thrown 132 pitches in September and has 12 swing and misses. Kind of okay but blah. Estrada has thrown 117 pitches with 21 swing and misses.

Think that a 1-inning power reliever these days should miss more bats. Just seems a a bit short on stuff, aside from velocity, for this type of reliever who’s not a command guy.

But, yes, he should be in 2023 mix. Need to give him opportunities to see what he can do going forward.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: craig on October 02, 2022, 08:19:07 am
I’m a bit less optimistic about Rodriguez.

Just seems like hitters are pretty comfortable against him. Has thrown 132 pitches in September and has 12 swing and misses. Kind of okay but blah. Estrada has thrown 117 pitches with 21 swing and misses.

Think that a 1-inning power reliever these days should miss more bats. Just seems a a bit short on stuff, aside from velocity, for this type of reliever who’s not a command guy.

But, yes, he should be in 2023 mix. Need to give him opportunities to see what he can do going forward.

That's helpful and makes sense, reb.  Helpful data. 

I think his breaking ball has been inadequate.  I've watched only like 3-4 of his appearances, but it seems like often the breaking ball has functioned as a giveaway pitch?  He hasn't thrown enough of them for strikes to make hitters swing; and many of them have missed so badly that hitters aren't even tempted to chase?  To be a long-term guy, that needs to improve.   

I think Hottovy and the some of the pitchers have gotten improvements.  So I'm interested to see whether they can tweak something to get a more functional breaking pitch that will be more tempting. 
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on October 02, 2022, 06:07:19 pm
https://youtu.be/IDxAm-GW0do
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on October 02, 2022, 07:32:48 pm
Yet another victory; a convincing one this time.  Looks like Stroman will end the year one game under .500.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on October 03, 2022, 07:25:03 pm
JD, looking at Joey Votto in the Reds' broadcast booth...

"Kind of looks like Franco Harris."

This is an example of why JD is much better than Dempster, Sutcliffe, Glanville, et al.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on October 03, 2022, 08:45:55 pm
The Cubs' winning streak comes to an end as the Reds stave off a 100-loss season with their win.  I wouldn't be surprised to see them sweep us so they can avoid that ignominy; they've got to be pretty motivated.  And even if they do that, the Cubs will end the season winning... 12 of 16?
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Dave23 on October 03, 2022, 08:53:52 pm
Well, he did kinda resemble Franco in that shot…
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Reb on October 03, 2022, 09:08:23 pm
What I like about JD is that he’s economical and funny. He isn’t blathering constantly and talks mostly when he actually has something worth saying. He’s not repetitive, which is really important over a 6-month season.

I’m okay with Boog because he’s curious about things and is a pleasant kind of guy on air. I wish he wouldn’t lose focus so much on the game in front of him but he would probably say that the visuals are there, so just watch.

I preferred Len to Boog—sorry that Len is gone—but still grateful that don’t have to listen to the awful Chip.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Deeg on October 03, 2022, 11:16:52 pm
Kasper was phenomenal and he and JD had great chemistry.  I don’t think Cub fans appreciated just how good they had it with that pairing.  Boog is OK, but having to immediately follow Len in that booth doesn’t do him any favors.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on October 04, 2022, 12:20:07 am
Top of the 9th - Not a good way to make the final out

https://youtu.be/lQhdTXRJMII?t=420
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on October 04, 2022, 07:33:36 pm
Assad gets into some very mild trouble (a hit and a walk) with a 1-0 lead in the bottom of the sixth and is being lifted.

It would be great to get the win for him today.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on October 04, 2022, 07:41:08 pm
Number 71 relieves number 72, and Keegan gets the Cubs out of it with a strikeout and a pop-up to second.  Still 1-0.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on October 04, 2022, 08:06:46 pm
Chucky Robinson hits a 2-run homer to tie the game.

Going to the eighth; Buck Farmer will pitch.  He gets two quick outs, but Contreras follows with a hit to left; his second hit of the game.  We *need* to keep him.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on October 04, 2022, 08:11:00 pm
Suzuki keeps the inning alive, reaching on an error with a grounder up the middle that shortstop Reynolds gloved but then bobbled.

Alexis Diaz coming in.  Now would be a fine time for a run-scoring hit.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on October 04, 2022, 08:19:38 pm
Diaz gets Happ out with a fly to center.

Keegan stays in and gets three very quick outs; on to the ninth.

Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on October 04, 2022, 08:31:28 pm
Diaz works around McKinstry's steals of both second and third, ending the inning with a strikeout and pop-up.

Headed for the bottom of the ninth where the Reds could walk it off.  Hopefully we make it to extras and hopefully we are seeing the ghost runner for the very last time.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on October 04, 2022, 08:39:04 pm
Spencer Steer's double wins it for them.  One game left in the season.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: JeffH on October 04, 2022, 08:47:40 pm
Blah.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Bennett on October 05, 2022, 05:24:58 pm
Listening to Boog forget that he is there to cover a baseball game is a lot like Bill Walton getting sidetracked from what is happening on the basketball court.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: davep on October 06, 2022, 08:15:58 am
Cincy has two Farmers but only one Steer.  Not very efficient.

All hat and no cattle.
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: Tuffy on October 06, 2022, 08:39:20 am
Fifteen runs for the Cubs today; save some for tomorrow!
Title: Re: Today's Game - 2022
Post by: CurtOne on October 06, 2022, 08:47:54 am
or next year.