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Title: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on August 13, 2022, 12:16:24 pm
And it begins...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on August 13, 2022, 12:17:06 pm
A series for each team and so far, not good, as expected.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on August 13, 2022, 12:34:11 pm
At least we know the Bears can still stop the opponent at their own 35, field a punt, get a penalty and start inside their own 10.  They have to have a record.

Braxton Jones playing well so far.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on August 13, 2022, 12:39:13 pm
That was a nice catch by Sharpe.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 13, 2022, 01:09:19 pm
Our new LT, new Safety, and new Punter look really good so far…
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 13, 2022, 01:18:23 pm
Ebner, too.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on August 13, 2022, 01:18:59 pm
The punter is a stud.

Brisker is really good.

Braxton Jones was going against Karliftis, their first round pick.  He was bull rushed once and almost gave up a sack on another play but did well.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JeffH on August 13, 2022, 01:20:04 pm
Lamar Jackson (the CB), on the other hand, looks terrible.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on August 13, 2022, 02:00:36 pm

 They said the game was blacked out in K.C. and Chicago. I don't get it ?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on August 13, 2022, 02:02:08 pm

 Coming alive and shaking off the rust in second half.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on August 13, 2022, 02:07:49 pm

 Soon to be BEARRSSE lead?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: wmljohn on August 13, 2022, 02:31:19 pm
They said the game was blacked out in K.C. and Chicago. I don't get it ?

It was blacked out on the NFL Network because local channels are carrying it. I live in VA and the commanders were blacked out on 212-1 (alternate NFL network) because they were on the local channel 4 (NBC) station.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on August 13, 2022, 02:33:49 pm
It was blacked out on the NFL Network because local channels are carrying it. I live in VA and the commanders were blacked out on 212-1 (alternate NFL network) because they were on the local channel 4 (NBC) station.

 I get it thanks Wml
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davep on August 13, 2022, 02:35:01 pm
Granted, he isn't playing against first string players, but it seems like they have been calling Sanborn's numbers on almost every play.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on August 13, 2022, 02:52:45 pm
Granted, he isn't playing against first string players, but it seems like they have been calling Sanborn's numbers on almost every play.

Like a lot of Wisconsin linebackers not a great athlete but excellent field awareness also on special teams.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BillSharp on August 13, 2022, 03:58:02 pm
Sanborn and Gates stood out at LB. Caleb Johnson solid as usual.

I've never heard of Tevon Coley, but he stood out at DT.

Brisker looks like a stud.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BillSharp on August 13, 2022, 05:33:10 pm
Altho Dazz Newsome caught a pass for a TD he dropped a pass and flubbed a punt return. I don't get the guy, how'd he rack up great stats at North Carolina? Was it all because Sam Howell was his QB?

Stat sheet says they didn't even throw a single pass to St Brown.

didn't like the play calling early, too much horizontal passing.

didn't think the run blocking was very good.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: hibernationsuxs on August 13, 2022, 07:00:33 pm
My thoughts from game today.

First string OL did not look good, lot of work still to do.  A couple guys out with injury, so not worried yet.  First string offense without Montgomery, Reiff, Patrick, and Kmet.  2nd string contenders Jones Jr. and Pringle did not play either. Hard to say what Bears offense will look like with them vs without.

Tajae Sharpe looked good.  Been hearing he has looked good in practice.  Good to see it translate to game day.

Daz Newsome had some bad plays but had some impact plays.  I for one am hoping he makes team.  He has speed.

Ebener looks like a keeper.  I gotta a feeling Herbert/Ebener are going to make Montgomery expendable and he will not be getting big contract from Bears.

J Sunburn stood out in every way, this guy makes the team.

Brisker looks like immediate impact player as a starter.

D Gates whom I had never heard of looks like he could be solid depth piece at LB.  I look forward to seeing more of him next two pre-season games.

D. Robinson flashed with that sack, which is what I was expecting after listening to podcasts about practice.

Jenkins got a lot of playing time cannot say he stood out, probably not good since he was going mostly against 2nd/3rd stringers.

The starting DL looked a bit weak, I am already worried about us stopping the run this year.

Special teams is looking special.  Trenton Gill looking worth the draft pick.  I honestly was blown away by is accuracy.  We have upgraded punter position.  Santos still solid.  Tackling is improved. 

I believe this team is going to be better than most people are thinking.  Play calling much improved, like the 4th and 2 that went for 20 something yards.  I told my son who is 17 years old "when is the last time we saw a play call like that", he replied "I have never seen play calling like that for the Bears".   Lol.  true.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on August 14, 2022, 12:55:48 am
Only caught the first half, taped the second.  Who was playing RT to start the game?  He was not doing well.  Schofeld was getting tossed around at RG, which was unexpected.  Where was Larry Borom?  And Reiff?  Braxton Jones was the least of the problems. And I hope Patrick gets well soon as we need him at center. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BillSharp on August 14, 2022, 03:17:49 am
"Daz Newsome had some bad plays but had some impact plays.  I for one am hoping he makes team.  He has speed."


actually Newsome's pre draft 40 time was 4.57, which makes him slower than Pettis, Sharpe, Finke and probably every wr on the roster.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on August 14, 2022, 06:06:31 am
Agree with what hiber says. IMHO

1. The Bears 1st string offense is not good enough to compete with the better teams right now. I think their 3 series are a microcosm of the season to come. Slow start, improvement but in the end not quite enough to get across the finish line. The real test will be next year to see if they can build on any momentum from this year....

2. The Bears 1st string defense (minus a few starters) looked a little slow and tentative when facing Mahomes and the KC starters. They seemed to lack energy. The 2nd and 3rd stringers after the half however (and the team in general) were flying around in the 2nd half. They looked psyched and pumped up. Wonder what the halftime locker room rant was ? Would like to see that energy in the 1st half as well in the future....

3. This team pleasantly surprised me. They look... competently coached. Maybe its Bears Fandom Stockholm Syndrome or something but I feel a lot better about the team today than yesterday. Are they very good ? No. But I think they have a decent chance to be very good.

4. As an aside, they showed Nagy on the sidelines (visor and all) and he had a small play sheet and headset on. I wonder if he was actually calling/relaying plays in the 2nd half- that could also explain the utter incompetence of the 2nd half Chiefs offense. It sure looked like it did under his tenure here, that's for sure :D

Lets see them build on this as the year progresses and see where this ride takes us....

Go Bears !
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on August 14, 2022, 11:14:12 am
Just watched highlights from the game. Hard to get a feel from that, but, I would say they better concentrate on running the ball til this offense (including Fields) gets up to speed.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on August 14, 2022, 01:17:34 pm
I could only watch the highlights. My advice to Roquan. Better sign a contract soon of you might not have a job with the Bears
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on August 14, 2022, 01:22:08 pm
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/14/bears-rookies-steal-show-preseason-win-jaquan-brisker-jack-sanborn/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=0
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on August 14, 2022, 04:35:32 pm

 I thot Trevor Siemians was doing traffic reports in a helicopter in Little Rock Arkansas.  ???
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on August 14, 2022, 05:30:35 pm
Haha He probably should be.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on August 15, 2022, 06:59:36 am
Watched the second half, and it was much better.  Guys were really flying around.  Kind of like Jack Sanborn, get the kid on the field. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on August 15, 2022, 07:09:47 am
Yeah it was kind of wierd to see. Rewatched the game last night and had my first impression enhanced.

For most of the 1st half the team seemed tentative- little or no energy- like they were going to a days work on a Monday.   

Not sure what they drank at halftime but the youngsters played with their hair on fire the 2nd half. Maybe that's the effect of the culture Eberflus is trying to instill and the youngsters embraced it fully while the veterans are a little more circumspect at this point. Was good to see though.

Also was refreshing to see a head coach with his head in the game instead of hiding behind a huge waffle house size play sheet trying to figure out how to screw up the current offensive drive :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on August 15, 2022, 08:25:17 am
Someone mentioned it looked like Nagy was calling plays in the second half.  I wonder if that helped the new guys look that much better.  LOL
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BearHit on August 15, 2022, 08:37:39 am
Halftime adjustments by new coaching staff?

Might be fun to watch this year for that reason...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on August 15, 2022, 08:38:11 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyeQCqk_oag
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on August 15, 2022, 10:38:53 am
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-chiefs-preseason-week-1-stock-watch-jaquan-brisker-jack-sanborn/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=2
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on August 15, 2022, 12:26:16 pm

 Fields strengths are the rollout, not staying in the pocket.

 An offensive line that can roll out with him either left or right can only improve a team headed towards a new destiny.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on August 16, 2022, 08:49:27 pm
I see the Seachicken game is going to be televised on 8pm ET on Thursday night. I think I can see that one.

ON ESPN
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on August 18, 2022, 06:12:29 am
We'll see if they can build upon the competence (and improve the rough parts) tonite. Should be interesting (can't recall when TWO Bear PS games were available without resorting to some kind of streaming/finagling on my end (NFL+ works for next weeks game for me)......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on August 18, 2022, 07:12:28 am
I dont think that will work for me. NFL channel doesnt work for me.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on August 18, 2022, 09:02:14 am
Very important read:

https://sports.yahoo.com/teven-jenkins-big-opportunity-among-143000160.html

Lots of good stuff in there even if you get past Jenkins.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on August 18, 2022, 10:30:25 am
I wasn't going to re-up my NFL gamepass this year (the streaming thing that lets you watch condensed games etc) but it automatically updated and gave me NFL+ too (bet it wont be next year). So it worked out :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: 46 on August 18, 2022, 01:41:54 pm
Me too. I was going to dump the whole too expensvie mess, but free is a good price, so fine. Just saw the 9 minute blip of the game, man, I dunno. Anytime you have to  include a punt in the highlights, well.... I remember the year they got Vince Evans and watched him in a preseason game. I knew, I knew we (back then it was always we) were headed to the superbowl, based on what I saw. Then the season started, when games counted, geeesh.  Hope its better tonight.                             
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on August 18, 2022, 03:48:25 pm
Yeah Vince Evans sure melted when the games were real (although I think its the Halas Curse myself). I remember him coming back and playing for I think it was the Raiders ? for a little while too......

There was an opinion piece (think it was from the old SI) from the 70s (think it quotes Ed Obradavich lot) and it was something to the fact that Halas felt the QB wasn't the driving force behind the offense, it was his system and Halas could plug and play anyone in and make it work. Well we all know how that worked out. Still a crying shame that Butkis and Sayers never were in a playoff game.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on August 18, 2022, 04:39:31 pm
Halas built champions but it seems like after he drafted Butkus and Sayers he lost it.

Drafts and coaching were terrible until Finks.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on August 18, 2022, 07:22:12 pm
Every play a. Pass rush jailbreak
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on August 18, 2022, 09:14:24 pm

 Cant believe this is OUR Chicago Bears. They are doing everything right. 24-0
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on August 18, 2022, 09:50:45 pm
Good to see Poles and Roquan talking before the game.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on August 18, 2022, 10:09:07 pm
Good to see Poles and Roquan talking before the game.

 They're not going to let him getaway. They'd be idiots. Still somewhat stunned by what I'm seeing in Seattle.

 Bears allow a gentleman's TD for Seattle.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: wmljohn on August 18, 2022, 10:59:55 pm
What most impressed me was the lack of penalties and the discipline they play with. Let’s hope that is real and not just a fluke.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on August 19, 2022, 02:37:16 am
Watching the game from DVR as I was working during the game.  Not much to **** about other than the first-string O-line and not challenging the catch that was ruled incomplete.

I am most impressed with the coaching and discipline especially with so many young players.

I think the Seahawks are going to be really bad so this is not a good barometer but I think the arrow is pointed up for our team. 

I did not think the D would be good after shedding so many good players.  I think we will be pleasantly surprised.

I also like the O scheme.  It gives players a chance to succeed.  Now the O-line just needs to get their **** together and we might have a better season than most were predicting.



Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on August 19, 2022, 06:17:37 am
Seeing that we were ranked 32nd in preseason picking, I think I can see who 32 is right now.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on August 19, 2022, 06:57:52 am
Only saw the first 3 quarters, but I cant remember in how long that special teams looked competent.  That coach deserves a raise.  Tevin Jenkins looked darn good at RG, Larry Borom seemed to struggle a little.  Maybe Rieff comes in and shores that up.  And I was thinking being a Bears fan has been tough, but being a Seahawks fan this year is going to be worse.  ;) 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on August 19, 2022, 07:50:20 am
Pleasantly surprised. The team looks confident, competent and competitive. In fact Seattle looks like what I thought the Bears would look like.

Negatives:
1. The Oline is not good enough (as if we didn't know that already). It at least appears they can run block, so that's a start but when the bullets start really flying, look out.....

2. The non-challenge on the catch sucked, and I hope someone asked about that in the post-presser. A lot of places make the availability to access replays a little more delayed for the visiting team, and I wouldn't be surprised for the "13th man" (the 12th of course being the fans)  a.k.a the scoreboard operator having an influence....

3. Pete Carol was a dick for calling a timeout at the end of the game after the Bears took a knee. Come to think of it, wasting an onside kick (and possibly giving any tells away) in preseason is not a smart move either....

4. Not as strong at the finish as the start and middle of the game. This is a good coaching point I'd be pretty sure Flus would use this week....

Positives:
1. Did I say they looked competent ? It seems that word is coming up a lot from anyone whose seen this team so far....

2. The players are flying around like their hair is on fire, and how long has it been since we've seen offensive linemen pushing the pile down field instead of spinning in place looking down at the play like those plastic figures from that electric football game from the 70s ?

3. The defense is also flying around. Just look at how many are around the ball either on each tackle or just afterward coming toward the tackle. HITS indeed.....

In conclusion, its only a pre-season game, where the only real take-aways are those who are injured and whether things look like they are at least firing close to all cylinders. So far they pass the eye-test. But unless the talent develops (and that takes time) this team has a long way to go. And right now its looking like a trip worth going on....

Go Bears !
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on August 19, 2022, 11:07:37 am
Pleasantly surprised. The team looks confident, competent and competitive. In fact Seattle looks like what I thought the Bears would look like.

Agreed
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on August 19, 2022, 11:08:27 am
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-seahawks-preseason-studs-and-duds/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=4
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on August 19, 2022, 11:15:04 am
Also noted that Seachicken 1st round stud OT from Mississippi that I liked had a game changing event last night. He had like 5 penalties in the game and all but single handedly ruined Seattle's offense. TYVM
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on August 19, 2022, 08:44:51 pm
Mississippi State…not Ole Miss…
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on August 19, 2022, 09:12:19 pm
sorry, I stand corrected
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on August 19, 2022, 11:02:38 pm
Think everyone needs to remember who they played. The Seahawks are one of few teams projected to actually be below the Bears this season. Definitely not getting any hopes up from this game....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on August 20, 2022, 06:13:17 am
I am still waiting for the opening kickoff and dreading that all we've seen so far is the exception and not the rule. We've all been Charlie Brown to the Bears Lucy when it comes to opening kickoffs as far as the Bears are concerned......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on August 20, 2022, 07:03:15 am
I am still waiting for the opening kickoff and dreading that all we've seen so far is the exception and not the rule. We've all been Charlie Brown to the Bears Lucy when it comes to opening kickoffs as far as the Bears are concerned......

Yep, think back to the Wannstedt days..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on August 20, 2022, 08:59:49 am
Also keep in mind I am sure they are not showing everything they have planned.  No sense giving away the playbook in the preseason.  Just saying, things could get better....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on August 20, 2022, 09:09:30 am
yes and there COULD be a man in the moon who eats green cheese.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davep on August 20, 2022, 02:17:24 pm
Think everyone needs to remember who they played. The Seahawks are one of few teams projected to actually be below the Bears this season. Definitely not getting any hopes up from this game....

One of the most impressive things about the first two games was the lack of penalties.  This is probably not affected by the quality of the opposition.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear2 on August 22, 2022, 03:01:31 pm

Unforced penalties <- lack of discipline
Forced penalties  <- lack of talent
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on August 23, 2022, 01:21:18 pm
Looks like from what I can find, Saturday's Bears game wont be televised live. You have to wait till Monday @ 3pm on the NFL channel
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on August 23, 2022, 03:17:20 pm
Yeah I think NFL+ is the only way atm.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: wmljohn on August 27, 2022, 06:36:33 pm
That was an impressive TD pass. Let’s hope that becomes his norm.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: wmljohn on August 27, 2022, 06:50:20 pm
I will take this version of the offense all year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: wmljohn on August 27, 2022, 07:23:44 pm
I was impressed by the starters play. 21-0 at the 2:00 minute warning. We can only hope this is the kind of play we have to look forward to this year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on August 27, 2022, 11:23:59 pm
Finally a quarterback with more than a pop gun arm.

There will be talk of the offensive line playing well, but man there sure were some wiffed blocks against the Browns starters.  Blocking the 9’ers could get ugly.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on August 28, 2022, 12:46:12 am
Browns kept their best players on defense out.  If Fields has time he can be very productive.  He won't have time.

It sucks but that is reality.

I hope that our coaches have a game plan that can stand up to reality when the real bullets start flying.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BillSharp on August 28, 2022, 12:48:32 am
1. Fields has never looked better.

2. Who would of thought Reiff and Schofield would be bench warmers? Schofield could get cut. the OL is going to wind up much better than expected. If they played Eiselen over Mustipher the line would be better.

3. Pettis stepped up. same with Coulter.

big question on offense is wr. What are they going to do to cover the injuries to Pringle and Harry? Moore is already on the DL. Sharpe looked good earlier.

Defense looked disciplined. DL I still think is weak. Is Mario Edwards still alive? Tonga is MIA.

Only guy I thought looked bad was Kyler Gordon. thought he stunk.

big question on defense is CB. With Graham and Young not playing how do you evaluate them? I can't guess who makes the cut.


Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: hibernationsuxs on August 28, 2022, 05:21:38 am
Gordon had that nice pass break up on 3rd down.

Offense looked better than I can remember.  It is all about play calling.  I think we probably lose Getsy after one year if he keeps calling games like that.

I do think the DL by end of year will be known as the weak spot of team.  I believe teams that stick to the game plan of throwing will have problems with us.  Those that are run heavy will dominate LOS.

I think this team better than national media portrays.  It is going to come down to health.  Monty, Kmet, Mooney, Smith, Quinn are the key to our season.  If any of them go down for considerable amount of time will influence win/loss record.   I actually think we can win with Siemian if Fields were to go down.  I am not saying he is better than Fields, just he seemed above average for backup role this preseason.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on August 28, 2022, 06:45:50 am
Pleasantly surprised by the 1st half, not so much the 2nd. FWIW:

The Good
1. Fields looked confident, poised and accurate even though it was versus a Browns D without their starting pass rushers and a few odds and ends though. That 3rd TD pass was just an example of  taking advantage of a rookie defense mistake. However, in the past it would have probably been incomplete (or dropped) so baby steps.....
1a. Finally a flag for a late hit vs Fields. Maybe the tide has turned ?

2. Players were flying around out there on both sides of the ball. And (at least for a half) few penalties.

3. Team looked prepared and ready to play (at least the starters).

The Bad
1. That second half. Ugh. Saw a lot of players heading toward their post-nfl careers. Riley Reiff's (who should KNOW better) idiotic late hit kills a chance to keep a drive alive. Stupid penalties allow a 19 (!) play drive for a TD. Scrubs (and a few who should know better) bumbling and stumbling around. Didn't get the strong finish I'm sure Flus was hoping for.....

2. It seems that when Semian or Peterman came in the Bears prevent offense cranked up again. God help this team if we have to see their butts on the field during the season (haven't we seen enough bad QB play in Chicago to last a few lifetimes ?)


Well, the dress rehearsal is over. Time for the real deal to begin. Let the roller coaster fly ! Go Bears !

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on August 29, 2022, 08:13:19 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KMR2Kf9SM
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on August 30, 2022, 01:15:54 pm

 FUUCK IT !! LETS GET IT ON MOTHERFUUVKERS !!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on August 31, 2022, 04:52:24 am
I get the feeling that Gordon will be a game changer in the slot.  I'd expect we will see him in some blitz packages, uncovered with a direct line to the QB.  Will be interesting to see.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: hibernationsuxs on September 11, 2022, 07:30:03 am
Bears 112  49ers -3

Go Bears!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on September 11, 2022, 11:25:44 am
I see the Bears are 6.5 point dogs... at home... Fukk that, I agree with Hiber, Bears 112, SF 3... Go Bears!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 11, 2022, 11:53:53 am
Showing Soldiers with heavy standing water and a few workers with squeegees pushing water to no effect.

They don’t even have one of those tractors with rubber rollers golf courses use.

The park district leadership is an absolute failure.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 11, 2022, 12:17:31 pm
Total train wreck so far.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 11, 2022, 12:49:11 pm
I’m trying to be mindful of the fact that we are facing a top 3 defense…on a field that is completely soaked…
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 11, 2022, 12:59:17 pm
Fields doesn’t have a chance with that stacked defense.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Chris27 on September 11, 2022, 01:32:00 pm
lmao at that penalty.

Easily the most entertaining thing the Bears are likely to do today.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on September 11, 2022, 01:32:30 pm
Eddie Jackson pancaked on the 9rs td.  WTF is Nagy calling plays running right behind Lucas Patrick at RG, the guy with only 1 hand because his broken hand has a club?  That play did NOT work.  Finally they put Jenkins in at RG and had a tiny bit of success.  I guess I can stop drinking the kool aid, and need to start drinking beer, as our talent is woefully not on the same page.  And if we can protect Fields, a big IF, maybe lets target Mooney or Kmet???? 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on September 11, 2022, 01:34:35 pm
I think Poles has a LOT of work to do, there isnt a spot on the roster that doesnt need an upgrade.  Nice to see Roquan on the field, but seems like he missed playing in the preseason.  And Brisker had 1 play early, and now seems to be invisable.  If we were playing an established qb instead of Lance, this would be no contest.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 11, 2022, 01:40:35 pm
Brisket has missed a few tackles badly.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BillSharp on September 11, 2022, 01:43:52 pm
3 pass completions in the 1st half & all to RBs. 19 yards passing.


that is beyond bad, that's a joke.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 11, 2022, 01:52:13 pm

 Second half both teams shaking off the layoff slump.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 11, 2022, 02:01:09 pm

 TOUCHDOWN!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 11, 2022, 02:23:37 pm
Of course Santos misses.

13-10 Bears!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 11, 2022, 02:33:36 pm
Of course Santos misses.

13-10 Bears!

 Duck stop being such a fuuckin pessimist when we have the lead!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 11, 2022, 02:35:34 pm
INT JACKSON!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on September 11, 2022, 02:37:38 pm
Different team in the second half..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 11, 2022, 02:39:27 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on September 11, 2022, 02:40:22 pm
Yes, TD!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 11, 2022, 02:40:48 pm
Santos misses another extra point.

19 -10 Bears!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on September 11, 2022, 02:41:21 pm
Fukkin Santos
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on September 11, 2022, 02:43:05 pm
 A lot of time left.. Those 2 misses could come back to haunt us..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 11, 2022, 02:47:28 pm

 Santos has probably soiled his jock strap being in a game where he actually counts on a BEARRSSE game.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 11, 2022, 02:51:27 pm

 I'd be nervous in front of a live audience also.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 11, 2022, 02:54:44 pm

 Frisco can be a cold wet town ... (been there many times) ...

 BUT ...

 CHICAGO IS WORST !!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 11, 2022, 03:00:31 pm
Maybe we lose in a domed stadium, ironic.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on September 11, 2022, 03:04:08 pm
Wow.. Big win for the Bears...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 11, 2022, 03:04:48 pm
I'll take the win.  But that first half was ugly.

Glad to see the discipline on penalties continue into the season.  That was a big part of this win.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 11, 2022, 03:07:39 pm
 IN AN ASIDE ...

 Looks like Trubisky could beat Cinncy ...

 EXTRA POINT BLOCKED !!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on September 11, 2022, 03:07:43 pm
Jackson gets a couple more INTs and all is forgiven.  Nice to see half time adjustments, something last year that NEVER happened.  I need to start drinking beer way sooner than half time.  If we can clean some stuff up, this could be a very fun year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 11, 2022, 03:16:22 pm

 Do you know what we just did ? We took the Frisco wonderkid and reduced him to below JIMMY G status for awhile.

 It could have been the other way around motherfuuckers.

 Call our OFFENSIVE LINE a bunch of washed over clowns ...

 call our DEFENSE in a rebuilding stage ...

 BUT WE FUUCKIN WON !!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 11, 2022, 03:32:01 pm
Wow,
Been waiting all off-season for this just hoping for some progress.

A lot of smug 9ers fans feeling burned makes me happy

How many games like this have I seen with the Bears on the losing end.

It was worth the wait.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 11, 2022, 04:03:50 pm

 It isn't that should we fight for these CHICAGO BEARS ...

  It is WILL we fight for these CHICAGO BEARS ?

 

 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 11, 2022, 08:47:39 pm
Wow. Thanks, 9ers, for the myriad drive killing and drive surviving penalties. And thank you weather for showing up at the right time. That was a crazy game and perhaps one of the only wins we'll see this year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 12, 2022, 08:25:36 am
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-beat-49ers-risers-fallers-222828167.html
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 12, 2022, 09:20:47 am
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-beat-49ers-risers-fallers-222828167.html

The rookie I was most concerned about was Braxton Jones.  He held his own even though he gave up the one sack.  He may not face a better pass rusher all season.

Dominique Robinson was a total beast - we saw that in the preseason but preseason gets forgotten quickly.  I like our DE rotation.

Yeah, Tevin Jenkins gave up the early sack, but this was his first NFL game at guard.  Plus he hasn't played guard since early in his college career.  He gets ragged on all the time but I'm thinking the platooning with Patrick was to get Patrick some game action since he can't hike with the club hand.  Outside of the sack I noticed him staying on his blocks sometimes mauling his opponent.  When Patrick is ready to go I think Jenkins stays put.

I'll admit I was longing for Andy Dalton in the first half.  Its almost impossible for an NFL QB to not complete a pass to a WR/TE in an entire half.  I know everyone is crowning Fields the hero of the game but there are definite problems with the offense.   Yeah, th offensive line struggled but adjustments don't have to wait until the 2nd half.   Bears put a lot of pressure on the D with that conservative first half play calling.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 12, 2022, 09:36:56 am
Good post. I hope we have something to crow about next Monday.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 12, 2022, 09:37:42 am
Beat the Pack
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: 46 on September 12, 2022, 09:57:04 am
Packers tackles are shot to pieces ( to quote ned pepper). Those guys didn't get rattled, I think they do ok next Sunday. I'll watch.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 12, 2022, 12:11:42 pm
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-observations-justin-fields-defense-star-win-vs-49ers
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 12, 2022, 12:28:38 pm
Love watching Colin Cowherd break down how Fields is better then Lance.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 12, 2022, 02:35:34 pm

 How to combine two world events into one metaphor ?

 The greenbay packers like Vladimir Putin are fading.

 We may lose to the Pack in G.B.

 There's no fuucking way in hell we lose to them in Soldiers.
 :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 12, 2022, 02:42:09 pm
There's no fuucking way in hell we lose to them in Soldiers.

So how much are you paying the pinstripers?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 12, 2022, 02:59:29 pm

 Alotta money spent on zebras to buy the outcome.  ;D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 12, 2022, 03:44:48 pm
Thats what I thought you were inferring. Thats a lot of money too Mr moneybags.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: navigator on September 12, 2022, 03:46:24 pm
Would love to see GB start 0-2
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 12, 2022, 03:49:14 pm
Would absolutely love it. No matter the weather, its a beautiful day when the Pack lose.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 12, 2022, 11:45:16 pm
The Bears are always the fix to what ails the Pack.....until that changes, don't expect much Sun night....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on September 13, 2022, 04:37:47 am
In 2017, I noticed that the Eagles were constantly rotating their defensive lineman.  I definitely feel this is a smart move, especially when we are not stocked with Pro Bowl defensive tackles.  Robinson and Gipson are similar body types, Quinn is Quinn, enough snaps for all of them to keep them fresh and engaged.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 13, 2022, 09:11:09 am

Also, noticed in the 4Q that Gipson got kicked inside to get more pass pressure.  Bears only got 2 sacks but could have had another 1 or 2 because Lance is not only elusive but he's huge.  49ers may need to talk to him about not taking on tacklers or he won't last the season. 

 I noticed how Fields gave up extra yardage by sliding.  At first you don't like to see it but it's the right thing to do.   Bears also got a couple of late hit penalties after those slides.

I just saw the O-line ratings from PFF.  Tevin Jenkins had the best overall rating of our O-lineman.  He also had the highest run blocking rating.  Mustipher had the highest pass blocking rating.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 13, 2022, 10:23:59 am
All anyone needs to see about the mental makeup difference between Lance and Fields was on display during the postgame questioning. Just look at how Fields handled his question about his interception (detailed break down and obvious understanding of what happened and why) and Lance who responded with platitudes about the questions about his interceptions. Night and day difference.

There will ugly days (and games) ahead, but I feel so much better about Lance growth arc than before.

BTW Lance may still turn out to be a great QB, but right now the 9ers would be better off with Jimmy G. Coaching malfeasance there.......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 13, 2022, 11:28:45 am
I watch a ton of football analysis and pundit opinions.

The analysis has gone from Fields could be a bust or develop to now “well he’s a play maker but undecided in the pocket “

Any quarterback needs decent protection to succeed.  Like last year the Bears OL repeatedly breaks down and is not giving him average protection.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 13, 2022, 11:37:59 am

 Trey Lance was Gods payback to Frisco for OUT PSYCHING us to draft Trubisky.

 Two first rounders to get Fields.

 Three first rounders to get Lance.

 Fuuckin Aye Baby !!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 13, 2022, 11:51:10 am
You’re right JJ.

I don’t understand why they rated Lance so high.

He played few games at a small school so should take longer to develop.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BearHit on September 15, 2022, 07:01:03 am
Interesting how 49ers held David Montgomery to 1.5 yards per carry - but Herbert got 5 yards per carry...

Does the defense key on DM when he is in the game?

https://www.google.com/search?q=49ers-bears+box+score&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS917US917&oq=&aqs=chrome.0.69i59i450l8.10094602j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sie=m;/g/11qbqw4l5x;6;/m/059yj;tb2;fp;1;;;
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 15, 2022, 09:36:27 am
Probably that and the fact that the 49er defense looked a bit gassed (and demoralized- those shots of the Nick Bosa looking dejected were pretty telling) in the 2nd half helped as well...

Kind of like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid- "Who the hell are those guys ?".....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2022, 12:27:33 pm
They were definitely keying on Montgomery. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 15, 2022, 12:34:51 pm
Probably that and the fact that the 49er defense looked a bit gassed (and demoralized- those shots of the Nick Bosa looking dejected were pretty telling) in the 2nd half helped as well...

Kind of like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid- "Who the hell are those guys ?".....

 Who's the guy in the straw hat ... is that Lord Baltimore next to Justin Fields taking names ?

 REMEMBER : I still own you !

 Ok motherfuucker ...  >:(
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 15, 2022, 03:07:39 pm
LOL. I've got a feeling there will be a LOT more folks saying "Who are these guys ?" this year......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 16, 2022, 09:29:19 am
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/16/bears-luke-getsy-says-justin-fields-was-stone-cold-in-week-1-win/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=0
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 16, 2022, 09:36:16 am
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/15/aaron-rodgers-disappointed-bears-did-not-trade-roquan-smith/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=8

Ha hha. I bet Rodgers is. My hope is 58 gets up-close and personal with Rodgers and shows off his tackling skills. Rodgers doesnt like to be tackled.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 16, 2022, 01:50:04 pm
I'd settle for a red mirrored 58 tatooed across his chest after the game.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 17, 2022, 12:56:20 am
Rodgers can say whatever he wants. Until this team gets its sh-- together, he still 'owns' them.....hopefully,maybe, it'll stop this weekend. Don't bet on it.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 17, 2022, 06:16:33 am
The journey of 1000 miles begins with one single step. Let's see if the Bears (who stumbled out of the blocks but got off their knees and won last weeks game) can continue moving forward.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on September 17, 2022, 08:01:46 am
For the Bears to win tomorrow would be monumental. The odds makers agree.. Bears are 10 point dogs..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 18, 2022, 08:20:09 am
Let's see if they can not face-plant offensively right out of the gate tonite. The only way to flip the script on "those folks up north" is to flip the script. Can they do that ? We shall see......

Go Bears !
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on September 18, 2022, 10:57:35 am
Just listened to a stats based podcast and the host mentioned that last week the Bears converted a 3rd and 6 or more without opponent penalty for the first time since 2020...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on September 18, 2022, 11:06:42 am
Bears- 100
Green Bay- 3
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 18, 2022, 02:27:46 pm
For fun, I looked up if an Eberflus defense had ever faced Rodgers.  Sure enough, in November 2020.  In Indy.  They gave up 31 points, but did intercept Rodgers once and recovered two fumbles.  The Colts won 34-31 in OT.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 18, 2022, 03:30:32 pm

 We may get the liven fuuckin **** kicked out of us today ... however on the other hand we may not.

 BUT ...

 That's at their house the next visit is at our house.

 We can take one and bide our time to give one.

 "You just gotta believe!"

 -Tommy Lasorda
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 18, 2022, 06:00:40 pm
Hopefully they'll figure it out while we're here to see it, JJ.....then again....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 18, 2022, 07:14:02 pm
So I'm going to guess it'll be the mid third quarter before I turn this one off.....give or take a few
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 07:44:20 pm
Montgomery is running hard!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 07:45:07 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 18, 2022, 07:45:11 pm
Nice! Good drive!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 07:45:53 pm
7-3 BEARS!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 07:46:36 pm
O-line is putting a hat on a hat and getting a push.  If they can keep running the ball like that all game we got a real shot at this! 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 18, 2022, 08:05:44 pm
Well at least they led the game for a couple minutes anyway....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 18, 2022, 08:10:28 pm
If Quinn didn’t get the sack Dominique Robinson would have.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 18, 2022, 08:23:19 pm
That was as glaring a hold on Gipson that you'll ever see...and it wasn't called and he STILL got the sack.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 18, 2022, 08:25:14 pm
Well, I was wrong...I might turn this off before half....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 18, 2022, 08:29:31 pm
When you watch so many of these pathetic kickoff returns, you realize just how special Devin Hester truly was.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 08:33:28 pm
So much holding...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 18, 2022, 08:40:10 pm
Looks like my 30-10 prediction may have been low....40-10? I'm out, seen this movie once too many times...not watching another train wreck.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 08:46:24 pm
WTF is wrong with Kmet?  We needed him to step up big and he has been MIA unless he is committing a penalty or dropping an easy catch.

Why does he jump for the ball when it is thrown right in his cheat.  No need to jump.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 18, 2022, 09:23:25 pm
Packers analysts said this week they would double cover Mooney and Kmet and challenge the other receivers to win.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 09:35:58 pm
Terrible spot!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 18, 2022, 09:37:44 pm
Looks short on the replay
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 09:39:01 pm
The first place he put it was a yard behind the marker where he stepped out.  Where they actually spotted it is pretty close.

First down!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 09:41:01 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 09:41:36 pm
4th and 6 inches coming up.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 18, 2022, 09:42:02 pm
Bad luck
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 09:43:34 pm
I don't like that play call.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 18, 2022, 09:43:55 pm
Two friggin inches
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 18, 2022, 09:45:06 pm
You knew the jig was up running and it looks like they ran right at Kenny clark
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 09:45:53 pm
That was a TD.  Screwed by the refs again.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 18, 2022, 09:47:18 pm
Bears didn’t have anyone to push the pile
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 09:53:08 pm
And that is the ball game.  I knew the kill shot was coming.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 09:53:59 pm
At least the young guys kept fighting.

So sick of losing to the puke green and **** yellow.  So tired.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: otto105 on September 18, 2022, 10:09:10 pm
24-5



Rogers still owns the bears.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 18, 2022, 10:09:52 pm
I'm not invested enough anymore to really care. This is how it is, how it's been for decades now, and I'm not going to let it bother me anymore. This yearly bs has gone on long enough, not gonna get angry over it anymore......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 18, 2022, 10:13:19 pm
That was a TD.  Screwed by the refs again.

I agree.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 10:29:03 pm
It used to let it get to me for a few days.  Now I am over it in like 5 minutes.  There are WAY more important things to get upset about now.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 18, 2022, 10:31:43 pm
I thought it was pretty obvious this would be a rebuild year.

The starters are half replacement for veteran that left.  Late picks and guys off the street.
Kmet is helping Braxton Jones virtually every play.
The defensive line is a cluster of journeymen as is the receiving corp.
I expect they’ll get better as they get more work over the season but I just don’t have high expectations.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 18, 2022, 10:36:30 pm
It was and is.  I am just looking for the needle pointing up.  But a team that has been disciplined with penalties suddenly gets a ton of penalties against the Packers and they get all the calls is just tiresome.

Bears had 7, Packers 3.  Yeah, only three!

The Packers should have won the game.  They have a HoF QB and fantastic RB.  While the ref calls weren't terrible this time as they have been in the past it still gets old seeing the bias.

Having to use a challenge to get a first down allowed the Packers D to rest when they were on roller skates against our O-line before the rest.  The worm will turn the moment Rodgers retires but until then same old BS.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 18, 2022, 11:07:27 pm
Yes SSDD
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 19, 2022, 01:39:42 am

Is Fields the answer?   He can't complete passes to our WRs.  Two of  his passes to WRs this year were on a broken play and a flea flicker. 

He has no pocket presence.  There are no quick passes.  But that may be the playcalling.  And when he does try throw a forward pass after leaving the pocket -he has no idea where the LOS is.

All the talk in the offseason about Kmet and Mooney.  They look like crap.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 19, 2022, 04:27:29 am
Turned it off right before halftime, as I was sure it was over. That bullshit 1st penalty call on the Bears set the tone (illegal block ON THE DEFENDER). I'll watch the game in condensed form sometime in the next day or two.

But one of my first observations from what I saw in the 1st half is FFS tell the goddamn kick returner he can take a **** knee sometimes instead of leaving them in poor field position. Christ, what a clusterfuck....

The roller coaster goes on.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 19, 2022, 07:42:29 am
Ebner looked like he was running in quicksand on his returns. Surely we have someone quicker than that who can return kicks…
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: 46 on September 19, 2022, 09:05:43 am
Fields is used to a game much slower. It appears he hasn't the quicks for passing. He was on 2 tries throwing the ball at 300 mph. Green Bay knew given certain situations what the play call would be, given the Bear OC. It was a TD but it still put them down 7. Run the hell out of the ball for the rest of the year.  No more 3 3 and outs. Are we looking at a system qb (Ohio state)? Team and qb are just not that good.  Period.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 19, 2022, 10:15:29 am

Pack often rushed 5 - not a blitz.  Shows the total disrespect for the Bears wideouts and tight ends.

Inability for this offense to not be able to connect with wide receivers and tight ends is maddening. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 19, 2022, 10:29:05 am
Seems like no Bear fans agreed when the national media was saying it would be impossible for Fields to succeed this year because Poles didn’t give him receivers.

Now it’s Field’’s fault for not finding open receivers.

Since we only have the television view it’s hard to say if he’s not pulling the trigger when he should.

The fact that this roster is put together with a lot of marginal journeymen was on full display last night.  The interior defensive line getting pushed around was most disappointing.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: 46 on September 19, 2022, 11:57:10 am
oh, and lining up in the shotgun to gain what, 6 inches for a touchdown, and then giving it to Fields ?  Take that out of the playbook.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 19, 2022, 01:31:28 pm
From what I saw, the Charlie Brown faceplant occurred this week instead of last week.

At least appear to be able to run the ball... unless they get down to the goal line. When will they learn ?

This game was a "Who the Hell are those guys" (with the implied where did last weeks guys go ?).....

Still, did not expect to be 1-1 after the 1st two weeks, that's for sure. Lets see how the kids respond to a shitty performance all around next week.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on September 19, 2022, 04:20:40 pm
Just watched the game.  It wasnt as bad as I thought, but seriously why did they get away from running Montgomery?  And the shotgun sneak on the goal line?  Stupid.  CB Gordon got roasted alive.  And Roquan did NOT have a good game.  Glad it is over, lets see what Lovie brings next week.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 19, 2022, 04:47:50 pm
Probably will end in a 7-7 tie.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 19, 2022, 06:48:22 pm

 Fields crossed the plane ...

 TOUCHDOWN DENIED !!

 What the fuuck did you think was going to happen in G.B.?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on September 20, 2022, 12:15:21 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fc_RWd7WIAM1oa7?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on September 20, 2022, 12:20:42 am
Buffalo only beat Brady 3 times in 20 seasons and now that he left their division, look where the Bills are now.  So when Rodgers finally rides off into sunset...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BearHit on September 20, 2022, 07:57:20 am
NFC North now tied at 1-1 - wrong Kirk Cousins showed up in Philly?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 20, 2022, 08:47:32 am

I think Ebeflus wants the offense to improve its pass/run ratio.  The passing game is broken and I don't want to hear that its because we have no talent at WR.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 20, 2022, 11:06:37 am
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-wont-name-teven-jenkins-213415095.html

Patrick needs to get the cast off.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 20, 2022, 11:15:02 am

After he gets the cast off I would think he's going to need some time to get his strength back in his hand.  Keep the rotation at RG until Patrick is ready move to center.   Jenkins will develop more consistency as he gets more experience - no way should he get benched now.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 20, 2022, 11:19:03 am
Right. Patrick needs to go back to center and he is just taking away reps from Jenkins at RG.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 20, 2022, 11:20:38 am
All the switching does is take away the consistancy factor of the line as a whole
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 21, 2022, 12:13:20 am
Fields is not taking throws that are there for him to take. He's being very hesitant. Guys are getting open but he's staring at them instead of getting them the ball...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 21, 2022, 02:48:00 am
https://twitter.com/TTNLNetwork/status/1571698884145205249?s=20&t=v2nsRSrADStuCmx7fMG8YQ
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 21, 2022, 11:32:06 am
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/keys-for-bears-offense-against-texans-defense-week-3-2022-season/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=1

I agree run the BALL
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 21, 2022, 11:49:32 am
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/21/bears-vs-texans-who-wins-week-3-2022-nfl-season/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=2

Simple answer: If  the Bears try to d what they arent good at doing (pass the ball),  they get beat. If they do what they are good at, (run the ball) they will likely win the game.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 21, 2022, 01:38:51 pm
The more I think about the game, it is encouraging that they can run the ball. Maybe they can now move on to working on the passing game now........

The Bears ran well, but I think the Packer's D does NOT look like they play the run well either. So its kind of crap shoot.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 21, 2022, 01:56:38 pm

 The first score for us was run oriented then after that we played catch up with Rodgers in the passing department against a team that planned for that.

 Finally towards the end of the game we came back to the run game right up the middle with both D.M & K.H.

 By then the game was over for us.

 Anybody know what the Texans ranking is against the pass?

 If it's bad this is where you let Fields air it with running back as a backup if things get out of control.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 21, 2022, 02:38:03 pm

Packers were up by 2 TDs in the 4Q - I dunno maybe they were dogging it figuring that the Bears couldn't sustain a drive.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 21, 2022, 03:57:31 pm
Packers were up by 2 TDs in the 4Q - I dunno maybe they were dogging it figuring that the Bears couldn't sustain a drive.

 BEARRSSE never had a drive until the fourth quarter.

 When they got back to the run game.

 Is it a learning curve ?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 22, 2022, 09:44:27 am
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-lucas-patrick-snaps-football-200100217.html

Now maybe these Patric/center situation will stop. I am sick of excuses.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 22, 2022, 11:47:45 am
There’s certainly an argument to be made that the rotation isn’t helping matters along the offensive line, and there’s a question about when this rotation will finally come to an end.

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/21/bears-how-much-longer-will-rotation-at-right-guard-continue/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=5

"“It depends on where we have Lucas, depends on what Lucas can do with his thumb,” Eberflus said Monday, via Sun-Times."

Seems the game is about over.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on September 22, 2022, 04:15:06 pm

I was actually in favor of the rotation.  It let Patrick get into game shape and gave Jenkins a good number of reps at a new position RG.

I heard and I have not reviewed the game, that when the Bears were on that ill-fated drive that Jenkins was in at RG.  Except apparently, when they reviewed the 3rd down scramble by Fields they substituted Patrick in at RG for Jenkins. 

Why the hell do you do that?  Dance with the one that brung ya.

And I don't have to review the tape but I remember Mustipher getting stood up at the LOS. 

Bears better make sure Patrick is fully healed to play center.  Obviously you need your hand to snap but today's O-lineman use their hands to block more than their shoulders. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 23, 2022, 08:48:38 am
I see where CBS wont be showing Sunday's Texans game outside Chicago and Houston
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 23, 2022, 02:04:42 pm
Might be kind of blessing in disguise for us "out of towners" :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 23, 2022, 02:16:39 pm
My Sunday ticket was free, for anyone who has Direct TV.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on September 23, 2022, 04:42:05 pm
My Sunday ticket was free, for anyone who has Direct TV.

Wow.  Did you threaten to ditch the satellite?  Next year Apple or Amazon will probably displace DirecTV.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on September 23, 2022, 05:31:39 pm
And most likely go to a one game, one team pay..., More expensive than paying for a year, but they are greedy ba$tards, they want every dollar they can get..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 23, 2022, 06:56:27 pm
Wow.  Did you threaten to ditch the satellite?  Next year Apple or Amazon will probably displace DirecTV.

I just said I have other options and they said since I’ve been a customer for years no charge.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 24, 2022, 06:33:14 am
I also did that for years when I had DTV. Got ticket free until my last year with them. It got harder and harder (needed multiple calls) after AT&T bought them and turned their customer service to **** though......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on September 24, 2022, 06:43:18 am
Fck DTV!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 24, 2022, 09:40:29 am
Still was fun back when programming H cards was a thing- lots of free TV back then.......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 24, 2022, 04:32:47 pm
I called earlier this week and not only got ST Max free, but also $60 off monthly for 12 months…
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on September 25, 2022, 05:42:25 am
I have to do this, do you ask for Customer Retention?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 25, 2022, 07:44:47 am
I have to do this, do you ask for Customer Retention?

I called to order it, but even if you already have it I told them $300 is way too much as I have other choices.  They couldn’t transfer me fast enough and as soon as I repeated myself to customer retention they offered the whole package free saying I am a long term customer.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on September 25, 2022, 11:36:47 am
DTV is gasping for air. They're losing customers at a rapid rate.. They aren't giving away a $300 product cause they like you.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on September 25, 2022, 11:57:33 am

 WE knew we were going to lose at G.B.

 I mean c'mon as a group think we're not fuucking stupid.

 However this is the Texans ... a somewhat slightly dysfunctional team as known to be known ...

 so this game is a THREAT to credibility.

 Been there done that in BEARRSSE lore.  ::)

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 25, 2022, 12:10:23 pm
Fields can run...question is can the guy pass? He holds it a long time. Don't they have some quick routes he can get into a rhythm with?? Getsy?? Buehler?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on September 25, 2022, 12:34:52 pm
Herbert’s time to shine…
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 25, 2022, 12:59:43 pm
Bears kick returners suck....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 25, 2022, 01:07:28 pm
Play calls suck. They don't trust Fields to throw the ball....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 25, 2022, 01:26:31 pm
PFF trying to tell us this is a top 10 OL.

LOL
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 25, 2022, 02:20:58 pm
More and more it's looking like Fields is just another flop for this team.....pathetic.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 25, 2022, 02:27:46 pm
Bears offense consists of running the ball and a 50/50 shot with Fields being able to complete passes downfield without a interception....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 25, 2022, 02:30:46 pm
What the heck is a 'snap infraction'?? lol
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 25, 2022, 02:32:50 pm
What the heck is a 'snap infraction'?? lol

Any time #67 touches the football.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 25, 2022, 02:42:41 pm
Bears gonna blow this.....no surprise...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 25, 2022, 02:54:43 pm
Looks like the D will save the day....no thanks to the inept offense....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 25, 2022, 03:26:54 pm
PFF trying to tell us this is a top 10 OL.

LOL

Yea top 10 in screwups.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 25, 2022, 03:32:04 pm
Bears win thanks to Roquan. Dude had 16 tackles and the game winning int. That tells me that Poles screwed up by not trading him. After all Poles was set to lose games and Roquan wont contribute
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 25, 2022, 03:43:56 pm
More and more it's looking like Fields is just another flop for this team.....pathetic.

Poles wants Fields to be a flop to discredit the previous GM so it justifies Drafting another QB with their #1 pick

next April
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on September 25, 2022, 06:27:02 pm
Problem is, we  won't have a #1.. The Bears are just good enough  to win a few games. I can see this team winning 6. 7-8 would actually be a good year..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 25, 2022, 07:17:53 pm
Why won't we have a #1?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 25, 2022, 07:30:28 pm
The Bears are not going to win many games unless Fields and the offense get better in a hurry.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on September 25, 2022, 07:35:50 pm
Agreed Peke
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JeffH on September 25, 2022, 07:36:30 pm
Fields is a lost cause.  The running game is excellent.  If they want to win games, put Siemian in.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: 46 on September 25, 2022, 07:41:21 pm
I was thinking the same thing. I don’t know if the game will ever slow down for him. He can’t thread the needle with a pass, lucky if he threads a truck tire
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 25, 2022, 08:04:56 pm
The way they are running the ball they should be able to pass.  The O-line needs to get better at pass blocking and Fields needs to go through his reads quicker.  I kept yelling at him to throw the ball away.

The Niners and Packers have top rated defenses.  The Texans not so much. They really should have been able to put up more points today, but Fields was downright awful.

I am not ready to write him off yet but if he does not start showing some major improvement soon, I will be right there with you.

 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 25, 2022, 08:05:50 pm
Any word on Montgomery's injury yet?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 25, 2022, 08:07:23 pm
Found this so maybe he will be back soon.  At least it doesn't appear to be season ending.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bears-news-david-montgomery-gets-good-injury-update-after-leaving-texans-game-early/ar-AA12enQV?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4471ac3eefb04dbcb4fae4ce92482015
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 25, 2022, 09:48:47 pm
I’m still optimistic that Fields and the offense will develop over time.  Something goes wrong most pass plays either protection quickly breaks down receivers screw up or Fields makes a bad decision.

It’s weird to realize they had a better passing game with Brian Hoyer throwing to Kenny Britt and Josh Bellamy a few years ago.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 25, 2022, 09:59:51 pm
Fields has so much talent.  I think he is thinking to much.  When the game slows down and he knows the offense inside and out I think he can be an amazing QB. 

If he can get there or not is another question.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 25, 2022, 10:06:23 pm
Yeah right now he’s lost confidence in himself and the players around him.

Too many tentative passes that miss the mark.

The coaches need to put a scheme together to produce about 180 yards a game and expand from there.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 25, 2022, 10:53:41 pm
They need to give him some quick throws to get into a rhythm.  Slants please!

Slants are a cover two killer and we didn't throw one today.

But the way they are running the ball if they can get the passing game going?  The sky is the limit.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on September 25, 2022, 11:45:24 pm
That’s strange because the packers run so many slants you would think Getty would want them.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on September 25, 2022, 11:50:46 pm
Perhaps they are running them, but Fields is not pulling the trigger.

He seems to have the same problem Trubisky has which is waiting to see a receiver come open and throwing versus anticipating where they will be and throwing them open.  That only comes with experience and sadly for a lot of QB's it never comes.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on September 26, 2022, 04:23:39 am
With the passing game being so poor, it is interesting that the running game is so strong.  You would think defenses would be stacking against the run.  If they get this passing game unlocked, it could really take off for them.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 26, 2022, 06:12:57 am
To put a positive spin on this truly sub-optimal offense takes a bit of explaining (and copium). Maybe they are calling these early games like they have done in games. Establish something (the run) early on. Later on (in the game and now the season) play things off of them. Then again, it just as could be the OSU and/or Chicago QB curse.

This game felt like one from the 70's. The Bears are due for another SB run sometime this decade (they seem to put together something every generation or so 63/85/2006) but unless they enter into the 21st century offensively (finally) it would take a unique combination of stars, mojo, karma and luck to do so (maybe 2026 ?......).
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 26, 2022, 10:12:50 am
https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/2022/9/25/23371972/bears-win-over-texans-is-footnote-to-qb-justin-fields-struggles-not-the-other-way-around
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on September 26, 2022, 11:24:13 am
i'll be happy if Justin is accurate enough to be checkdown charlie at this point.  And so far he hasn't yet.  I was looking at Krenzel/Quinn/Hutch stats in '04 and damn I am concerned with this kid's confidence right now.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on September 26, 2022, 11:52:33 am
And Velus needs get on the fuckin field already.  Not so they can use his 4.3 to bomb away.  They need another option beside Mooney and Kmet to use his YAC ability in the short passing game.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on September 26, 2022, 11:56:04 am

Agreed - and we also need him on special teams.  Punt AND kick off returns.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on September 26, 2022, 12:27:31 pm
The return game is terrible. Looks like slogging through the mud....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on October 02, 2022, 01:02:19 pm
The millionth bootleg and it works again.  WTF?

Can we not adjust to stop it?  It isn't like it is some revolutionary concept.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 02, 2022, 01:34:44 pm
All of our picks next year need to be OL.  ALL of them.  And maybe DL too.  And of course WRs.  We are in need of a major talent upgrade.  How about have 1 D player spy Barkley and another the QB.  Problem solved.  Lets see what half time adjustments they make.  We know Nagy would just keep doing the same.  I dont have high hopes for this game.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on October 02, 2022, 01:41:34 pm
The OL is awful against a below average defense.

Fields may get killed.  He was limping that last play.

I think Patrick gave up sacks at both guard positions.

At least Fields looks better.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on October 02, 2022, 02:51:53 pm
This is what happens with rookies in critical spots.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on October 02, 2022, 02:57:02 pm
Geez.  Only the Bears can knock out the 1st and 2nd string QB and still lose the game.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 02, 2022, 03:06:50 pm
Both Gordon and Brisker have regressed from preseason.  I admit I had been drinking the koolaide, and was hoping for a surprising winning season.  Now I am hoping for the worst record in the NFL and want the best draft pick we can get.  Sad after only 4 games to be like that, but seriously, did you see todays game?  Velus Jones, pathetic. Cole Kmet, pathetic.  Pettis, pathetic.  The whole team is like watching the bad news Bears, maybe a high school team, overachieve sometimes against a pro team.  Now yes I was planning on the Bears being 2-2 at best, but I am off the superfan juice.  Just tank the rest of the way and get it over with.  At least I dont have to have any more expectations the rest of the year.  Which blows.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 02, 2022, 06:04:40 pm
Geez.  Only the Bears can knock out the 1st and 2nd string QB and still lose the game.

Ding Ding Ding! You just wake up?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 02, 2022, 06:31:43 pm
Disappointing game for sure...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 02, 2022, 09:32:39 pm

I focused on the O-line the entire game.  Braxton Jones is solid.  Borom had a solid game too as did Jenkins although he did wiff on a spin move.  The problem with the O-line was primarily with Mustipher and Patrick.  Bears need to move Patrick to center and get Mustipher out of there.   I hope Whitehair is OK he's been the Bears most consistent O-lineman.  I think Patrick is starting because of his connection with Getsy.

Watching a bit of the Chiefs/Bucs - the ball is out of there in 2 seconds.  There's so much wrong with the offense I don't know where to begin.

Defensively, Brisker and Gordon, especially Gordon get exposed.  Gordon makes Vildor look like a pro-bowler.  The interior D-line rarely gets penetration.  The linebackers miss tackles.  The best player on D today was Jackson.

And the D gets constantly fooled by fake hand offs especially the ends as they try to tackle the half back who doesn't have the ball.  And when is #55 going to make a play - why is he starting?  Because he has connection with Eberflus from the Colts. 

T
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on October 02, 2022, 09:36:46 pm
They suck and are getting worse instead of better as the season wears on.

We knew they were young and inexperienced.  It is showing up on game day as expected.

Hopefully the light comes on for some of them especially Fields. 

It is embarrassing how bad the passing game is but as Bears fans sadly we are used to it.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 02, 2022, 10:53:01 pm
I focused on the O-line the entire game.  Braxton Jones is solid.  Borom had a solid game too as did Jenkins although he did wiff on a spin move.  The problem with the O-line was primarily with Mustipher and Patrick.  Bears need to move Patrick to center and get Mustipher out of there.

Agreed. The problem is if Patric plays guard then Mustipher plays center which the problem. Get Mustipher out of Chicago.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BillSharp on October 02, 2022, 11:02:43 pm
Kyler Gordon is just bad. Quinn looks like he's taking the year off. LB play is weak. Should Smith be moved back to the middle?

Lack of talent and depth at WR.

Fields looks awful. Looks like he scrambles into tackles. Doesn't see the open man.

Team is terrible at handling the blitz.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on October 03, 2022, 12:30:05 am
Their answer to the blitz is the RB screen which worked very well when they finally used it.  Don't forget it is a learning process for our OC as well.  He was a QB coach in GB.

We caught them a few times with it then they quit sending so many as often.

Guys we all knew it was going to be a long season.  If they end up anywhere near 500 at the end it will be as successful season as we could have hoped for.

The biggest thing to root for each week is for Fields to learn and grow.  If he sucks this hard at the end of the season we are fvcked.  He has talent but can he learn to throw guys open and to read defenses?

I have noticed he has been throwing the ball away a bit more when there is nothing there.  That is growth.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 03, 2022, 05:21:18 am
Fields was much more decisive on where to go with the ball.  On the drop along the sideline by Mooney, the ball was low bu tnot a bad throw.  It was an easier catch than he made on the long pass. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 03, 2022, 06:45:10 am
This is what you get when you have no difference makers on offense. They are just a bunch of JAGs being coached by a bunch of JAGS. Ryan Poles has struck out this season. I wonder if he can get his **** together and actually draft offensive difference makers (Velus Jones. Really ?). Watching teams like the Bills and Chiefs just makes me kind of angry at the out and out incompetence of this organization. Hell, even the DOLPHINS are fun to watch....

At this rate they won't even make it to that SB they tend to get to every 20-ish years or so......

Defense played bad but when you give up less than 21 points you should be able to win any game if you have any professional offense at all. And that's something this team just cannot have for some reason. The McCaskey curse  of popgun offense continues unabated......

Demoralizing game for sure.

Also thinking a bit more on the topic, not sure that scoring 45 like the Lions and losing 48-45 would be any better :D  BTW they say thats the first time in NFL history that a game ended with that score....

Also, Poles was using the previous regime scouting staff reports, so there is that. Fire whoever has been evaluating TEs (almost guarantee he's a legacy hire whose been part of every scouting staff forever). Fire whoever whose been evaluating WRs (Mooney is a good 2 or 3 on almost any other team). You cannot be THAT bad at evaluating and picking these positions over this long a span unless you're trying to be that bad.....

Next year will tell a lot. Meanwhile the frustration of pop-gun offense continues.....

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on October 03, 2022, 04:23:44 pm
Based on Trent Dilfers analysis on the SCORE Fields did high 80’s performance.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JeffH on October 03, 2022, 06:38:50 pm
The Bears' offense needs - primarily - two things.  Mustipher replaced by a genuine NFL center (does Patrick qualify?  TBD).  A top-level WR (this will have to wait until 2023).
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on October 03, 2022, 07:07:43 pm
Patrick will have to play LG for awhile since Whitehair is out with a knee
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JeffH on October 03, 2022, 07:17:00 pm
Patrick will have to play LG for awhile since Whitehair is out with a knee

The best alignment is Patrick at center and any rotting corpse at LG.  Mustipher must die.  No offense to him personally.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 03, 2022, 07:55:51 pm
The best alignment is Patrick at center and any rotting corpse at LG.  Mustipher must die.  No offense to him personally.

Wow maybe there IS someone who agrees with me. Did that center from Illinois get cut? Anything is better than Mustipher, even my mother in her casket
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on October 03, 2022, 07:58:46 pm
No luck, Eberflus said the lineup will remain the same for a few weeks.

Mustipher allowed 8 pressures, rediculous
I don’t think there’s any FA available
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on October 03, 2022, 08:25:26 pm
On plays with a clean pocket, Fields was 10/14 168 yards
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 04, 2022, 12:14:49 am
Kramer the C from IL got hurt and went on IR.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 04, 2022, 06:07:33 am
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. So the Bears coaching staff is insane, to be sure......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 04, 2022, 11:10:15 am

I have no idea why Patrick was starting at RG to begin with.  And #55 shouldn't be starting at LDE either.  And Quinn is looking like the 2020 version.

Wshful

No one here is a fan of Mustipher.  He's a backup...that's it.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 05, 2022, 05:43:58 am
Quinn was listed with an illness last week.  During the game, he did not look like he was feeling well, imo  He needs to get on track.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 05, 2022, 11:51:31 am
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-pff-grades-how-the-offensive-line-fared-in-week-4-loss-to-giants/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=4
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 05, 2022, 01:27:45 pm

Can Reilly Reif play guard?  Move Patrick to center and Reif plays LG.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 05, 2022, 01:43:52 pm
The real question is can Patrick EVEN PLAY C???  He was a G with the Pack, who says he will be any good at C?  I am ready to give Deiter Eislen a chance at C.  Heck I would give the cleaning lady a chance, she couldnt get tossed around any worse...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: 46 on October 05, 2022, 01:45:11 pm
Bears looking at a former doordash driver from Chile for TE, converted from Basketball. Sure. Why not.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 05, 2022, 01:57:14 pm

Patrick has played center for the Pack - numerous games.  I don't know that he's played LG.  He can't be any worse than Mustipher.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 05, 2022, 02:27:22 pm
Oh God, nobody can be worse than Mustipher. My deceased mother who is in her casket would be better.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 05, 2022, 02:33:20 pm
I have no idea why Patrick was starting at RG to begin with.  And #55 shouldn't be starting at LDE either.  And Quinn is looking like the 2020 version.

Wshful

No one here is a fan of Mustipher.  He's a backup...that's it.

Backup? I backup to the trash bin too. He is a prime candidate for the trash bin for sure. And he isnt recyclable.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 07, 2022, 02:39:35 pm

Remember the Viking DE that gave Larry Borom fits last year in Minnesota.  I just checked and found out Kenny Willekes is on IR.  Borom can get a good nights' sleep Saturday.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on October 07, 2022, 03:48:07 pm

 Despite the fact that both of my hands and feet have been amputated I tried out for Bears position at Center and have been given a callback.  ;D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on October 07, 2022, 03:52:37 pm
No team has ever won the immediate week after a win in London.  That's basically all I have to hold onto as I make my yearly trek to US Bank...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 08, 2022, 10:44:38 am
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/08/bears-vs-vikings-week-5-broadcast-map/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=1

read and weep
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on October 08, 2022, 11:31:14 am
I’m going to have to find a way to stream it on my phone yuk.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 09, 2022, 11:05:30 am
I’m going to have to find a way to stream it on my phone yuk.

When you figure that out, let me know..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JeffH on October 09, 2022, 12:22:38 pm
An NFL Plus subscription combined with a VPN set to Chicago.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 09, 2022, 12:53:19 pm
No defense.. WTF?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 09, 2022, 01:27:33 pm
Well Kirk Cousins looks like Joe Montana.  Not upset, as I am hoping for as high a draft pick as we can get.  I still dont understand how Brisker looked so good in preseason and now looks horrible.  In addition to OL talent we desperately need DL talent.  And pretty much everywhere.  Second half should be interesting.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 09, 2022, 02:53:40 pm
Keystone cops!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 09, 2022, 02:54:08 pm
Bravo Bears, Bravo.  Almost had the comeback, but have a former Vikes WR hand the ball to the Vikes D.  I would cut that guy tom.  Actually I wouldnt let him on the plane back to Chicago.  Then again WR is a known problem, and I am hoping for all losses the rest of the year.  Based on today, I dont think that will be too much to ask for.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on October 09, 2022, 02:55:53 pm
Just get out of bounds and stop the clock…wtf?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BillSharp on October 09, 2022, 03:05:15 pm
refs really affected the outcome of the game.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JeffH on October 09, 2022, 03:29:29 pm
Just get out of bounds and stop the clock…wtf?

He's the same peckerwood with the block in the back on Fields' TD run.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on October 09, 2022, 03:41:57 pm
Smith-Marsette had literal bear hugs and smiles with his "old" boys at the 50 yard line.  Keep him and Pettis in Mpls.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on October 09, 2022, 03:52:47 pm
At the end of the day, Fields took a progressive step in his development and I am pleased with that.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davep on October 09, 2022, 10:43:26 pm
If we can figure out a way to skip the first half and only play the second half, we are a Super Bowl team for sure.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 10, 2022, 01:43:43 am

Fields best game so far this year.  Much more decisive.  Still wish he'd look downfield more when leaving the pocket but he had some critical runs....and passes.

D-line ain't doing it.  Aside from Gipson barely any penetration from the front 4.  Vikings Oline didn't need to double team as each of their lineman sticks to a defender. 

Even if Fields is the guy can next year's draft and free agency fill all the holes on the d-line, wide receiver and maybe another O-line starter.

Robert Quinn  0 tackles    Jaylon Jones 11 tackles.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 10, 2022, 06:33:05 am
This loss is on Poles as much as Jones (31) on defense and that stiff ex-MN WR.

FWIW:
1. They as a team are still learning, but hamstrung by the gap of talent between them and their competition at pretty much every level.
2.  On the bright side, it was good to see Fields improve as the game went on.
3. A piece of hope (and hope is all it is at this point) I hold onto is that Poles was using the scouting staff and reports from the previous regime for this draft and his first real draft he can fully call his own is the next one. Would be really interested to get in the reeds to hear what (if any) changes are occurring in the scouting staff. Of course the stiffs who cover the Bears don't get into that, probably for the same reason they don't really pitch hard questions at press conferences.
4. If next years is a FUBAR and the cupboard as bare as this one is, then its time to start screaming at Halas Hall "Fire George !".
5. Also on the positive side is that the Packers lost too (to a team they in all likelihood shouldn't have).


Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: 46 on October 10, 2022, 09:49:02 am
They left that clown off the plane, right ? right ? He was also the one with the block in the back during fields td run.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on October 10, 2022, 10:33:15 am
if Patrick can snap, put him at center, handcuff Mustipher to the bench, and put fill in the blank at LG...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 10, 2022, 11:57:51 am

I haven't see too much to impress me with Patrick but he's a much better option at center.  But recall this staff had Mustipher at starting RG in the preseason - ahead of Jenkins.   Reiley Reiff at LG makes sense.


Bears going in to the season had a decent team but after the starters there was a huge drop off.  We are seeing that now.  Add Jaylon Johnson to the secondary and its OK.  Gordon will get better. 

Everyone complaining about #17.   But #31 Jones was targeted near the goal line numerous times.  Both are basically rookies but that's what happens when you play guys that aren't ready.

Bears are also missing Pringle, Velus Jones and Harry should all be playing in the coming weeks.   
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on October 10, 2022, 12:16:09 pm

 I figured without seeing the game that when I checked the final score it would be about 44-10 Minny.

 Imagine my surprise that a rebuilding team with about to have $100 000 000 in cap space free next season would fuuck over the Vikings with that final score.

 That's called trying.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 10, 2022, 12:52:27 pm

Also, our field goal kicker kept us in the game - the Vikings kicker also did the same.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on October 10, 2022, 02:22:20 pm
Even Tru had a few good games, let's not anoint the kid yet, he has a lot to prove. Would not surprise me if he comes out next game and flops....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on October 10, 2022, 03:07:21 pm
Even Tru had a few good games, let's not anoint the kid yet, he has a lot to prove. Would not surprise me if he comes out next game and flops....

 Sporty,

 And your pessimism is based on what ?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 10, 2022, 06:17:32 pm
Being a longtime Bears fan?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on October 10, 2022, 07:36:30 pm
Being a longtime Bears fan?

Chi fan,  Monsters of the Midway Facebook page has a live feed of the games.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 10, 2022, 10:00:37 pm
Thanks Davebear.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 11, 2022, 04:33:31 am
Chi fan,  Monsters of the Midway Facebook page has a live feed of the games.

Excellent info.. Thanks!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 11, 2022, 06:04:59 am
For everyone that is freaking out about our young quarterback.  Patience.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1579654223914233856

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on October 11, 2022, 11:03:05 am
Jonathan Mingo, WR, Ole Miss
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on October 11, 2022, 11:25:04 am
Mingo (https://twitter.com/SECNetwork/status/1578917090689515526?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1578917090689515526%7Ctwgr%5E2dedd51d43a9d52ddfcc59e084900138db58f855%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsteelersdepot.com%2F2022%2F10%2Fscouts-notebook-college-prospects-who-impressed-on-saturday-week-6-2%2F) or D.J. Moore this year without giving up a 1st.  I think Poles hold onto his picks, but I can daydream...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 11, 2022, 11:26:45 am
Michael Mayer, TE ND

stud
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on October 11, 2022, 01:00:49 pm
Yeah, just like Kmet, right?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 11, 2022, 01:25:52 pm
Better than Kmet and Eifert too. Catches footballs instead of dropping them. Already broke Eifert's ND record
.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 11, 2022, 01:32:57 pm
" I think Poles hold onto his picks, but I can daydream...

No I think Poles is so obsessed with 6th and 7th round picks he trades his higher picks for as many 6th and 7th round picks he can get
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 11, 2022, 02:58:51 pm
" I think Poles hold onto his picks, but I can daydream...

No I think Poles is so obsessed with 6th and 7th round picks he trades his higher picks for as many 6th and 7th round picks he can get

He didn't trade his two #2s or his #3 last year.  He started his trade downs in round 5.  After a certain point there's not much difference in talent apparently, and Poles went with quantity over supposed quality.

BTW did you know our 7th round punter Gill is ranked #7 in the NFL in net punt average.   Quite a few spots ahead of our old punter O'Donnell.  Cheaper too.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on October 11, 2022, 06:10:58 pm
Someone's gonna be very happy with Mayer. Kids a stud....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 11, 2022, 07:49:11 pm
Amen! Just telling it like it is.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 13, 2022, 09:25:08 am
OMG!

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/5-bold-predictions-for-bears-vs-commanders/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=0


"Robert Quinn gets a sack off Charles Leno Jr.

AP Photo/Jeffrey Phelps

Charles Leno Jr., a longtime stalwart of the Bears offensive line returns to Soldier Field for the first time since he was released from the Bears during the 2021 offseason. His primary task? Keeping Robert Quinn, the Bears single-season sack record holder, at bay for the majority of the game.

Quinn has fallen back to Earth this season with just one sack and six total tackles over the course of five weeks. It’s a far cry from his historic production last year, but he will find a way to notch his second sack of the year against the Commanders. Wentz is being sacked four times a game on average and Leno has surrendered three on his own already. With how long Wentz holds the ball compounding the problem, the conditions are right for Quinn to hit pay dirt."

This will be fun to watch. I cant wait.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 13, 2022, 10:15:55 am
This is almost the perfect Charlie Brown/Lucy game for the Bears. She holds the ball. He runs forward to kick it and..........  we shall see tonite.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on October 13, 2022, 02:38:16 pm

 Fuuck it.

 We go with Montgomery if he is good to go and run it down the redskins warriors commanders flavor of the month team and leave them leaving the field at soldiers defeated.

 It's not rocket science. Kick the motherfuuckin livin shiit out of the opposition. Is that too much to comprehend ?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: 46 on October 13, 2022, 07:10:50 pm
Have those units been worn before?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on October 13, 2022, 07:55:10 pm
Where was Monty that drive?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 13, 2022, 08:40:48 pm
Ok so Mustifer blows donkey dickks, we all know that.  I have been watching Lucas Patrick.  He isnt much better.  You want to know why Fields is taking a pounding, start with those two. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 13, 2022, 08:41:40 pm
Also the refs seem a little spotty.  A couple of ticky tacky PI calls against Jaylon Johnson, and one that went against Wash in the begining. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Chris27 on October 13, 2022, 09:41:00 pm
This new regime is doing wonders with this offense. They went from the stone age back to the big bang.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 13, 2022, 10:03:44 pm
Ha ha.....they did for real
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: otto105 on October 13, 2022, 11:13:20 pm
Hey, your QB did complete 14 passes....LMAO.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on October 13, 2022, 11:18:37 pm
I can’t believe PI wasn’t called in the end zone on 3rd down. He was pulling Pettis’s right arm down…
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BillSharp on October 13, 2022, 11:18:55 pm
Lucas Patrick looked as bad as Mustipher. Meanwhile Alex Bars starts for the Raiders.

Bring on Dieter Eiselen, he looked good in preseason.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Chris27 on October 13, 2022, 11:26:21 pm
Fields was sacked 36 times in just over 300 drop backs last year.

This year he has been sacked 23 times in 138 drop backs.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on October 13, 2022, 11:48:58 pm
All the annointing of Fields was ill placed. He missed a easy, wide open pass to a TE for a TD. Then he proceeds to toss the ball straight into the helmet of a defender and it gets intercepted. This loss wasn't all him by any means. But it doesn't help when it's a easy toss for a TD and it gets overthrown....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 13, 2022, 11:50:55 pm
Lucas Patrick looked as bad as Mustipher. Meanwhile Alex Bars starts for the Raiders.

Bring on Dieter Eiselen, he looked good in preseason.

And the Raiders let loose of their RG Leatherwood.

Bars had his flaws but I bet he could play guard or center for this team.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Chris27 on October 14, 2022, 02:41:56 am
Fields has been disappointing, but I don't know how much to lay on him when he has the worst set of weapons and blockers in recent memory. Not to mention the atrocious play-calling.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on October 14, 2022, 03:36:43 am
I had it set to record because I was at work but it didn't for the first time ever.  I guess I got lucky.  I watched a youtube highlights of the game.  Fields has so much talent but he has to get his **** together.  He has the talent to be great.  But if he doesn't get it between the ears and get the game to slow down for him we are screwed.

He has the potential to be as good as Mahomes.  He has that athletic ability.  He has the drive.  But does he have the mental acuity?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: navigator on October 14, 2022, 04:35:51 am
What little I saw of the game last night was a qb that held onto the ball too long. He made some plays and some big plays but he was getting some time and not getting rid of the ball. What was hard to tell was if the receivers were getting any separation or if he is just trying to wait for them to get open.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 14, 2022, 04:41:17 am
I'm glad I have divested in the NFL in general. Used to be I would've stayed up and watched this game. I fell asleep by mid first quarter.. To lose to Washington.. Pathetic! Start of the season, writers were saying the Bears were the worst team in the league.. Now I believe it...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: navigator on October 14, 2022, 05:40:08 am
Yeah, I didn’t lose any sleep because of the game either!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 14, 2022, 06:10:06 am
... and the Bears pull a Lucy......

The game was best summed up from a friend who picked the Bears (despite me telling him it was not a good idea) in a text after the game last night of 4 short words:

"What the **** was THAT ?"

That should be engraved on a plaque and nailed to Poles' fat ass.

The Bears have an Offensive coordinator who thinks he can fit square pegs in round holes, calling plays for a glacially minded QB, whose blockers (and I use that term in the loosest possibly way) aren't even at pee-wee level throwing to stumbling, non-handed WRs. Yeah. That's a plan Poles. That's really going to work. Good job....

Pretty much any good vibes from the last week's game are gone and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone.

As it is they are jeopardizing their once every 20 or so year relevance game in 2024 or 2025 right now. What a ****-show on offense.........

It takes teams about a quarter of the season to begin to shake out what they are and we now have a pretty definitive answer- Not good. The Bears have an alright defense (at least vs bad teams). They have some good (not great) RBs. They have a kicker. But the rest unfortunately garbage. Right now "Go Bears" feels more like "Go Bears (and stay away)".....

Just when you figure a franchise cannot dig themselves deeper they find a new way to auger in even more. It may be past time to start the chant of "Fire GEORGE !".....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 14, 2022, 07:01:40 am
The loss helps my draft pick narrative.  Fields took a beating yesterday.  Someone said he doesnt trust his WRs and that is why he holds the ball too long.  Maybe.  But with that OL I would start trusting SOMEONE because I dont want to get pummeled.  Mustifar and Patrick can go in my opinion.  I saw Patrick getting pushed around as bad if not worse than Mustifar.  And that is saying something.  And Borom and Jones looked shaky on the edges.  Where the heck is Reilly Reiff???  We paid him some big money, lets get him on the field.  And Leatherwood, and any other stiff in the OL room.  Cant be worse than what they are doing. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 14, 2022, 09:12:44 am

Jones had his worst game last night.  That's going to happen especially for a rookie.  We can only hope Patrick moves to center where the demands of the position better fit his skill set.   But that might not happen until Cody comes back or they promote Leatherwood.

Fans hold their breath every time Fields drops back.  Is he gonna get pummelled?  Is he going to hold the ball?  Is he going to throw?  Is he going to take off? 

This is not an NFL offense.

And with all the holes on offense - their front 7 on defense needs attention too.  No ability to stop the run and no consistent pass rush.

You know things are bad when Charles Leno played better than all 5 of our guys.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 14, 2022, 09:32:28 am
I had it set to record because I was at work but it didn't for the first time ever.  I guess I got lucky.  I watched a youtube highlights of the game.  Fields has so much talent but he has to get his **** together.  He has the talent to be great.  But if he doesn't get it between the ears and get the game to slow down for him we are screwed.

He has the potential to be as good as Mahomes.  He has that athletic ability.  He has the drive.  But does he have the mental acuity?

His offensive line is very offensive. It blows chunks
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: 46 on October 14, 2022, 09:39:11 am
So Bears. Its become unwatchable. When they were ahead I went and dumped the garbage, I knew it wouldn't last. It didn't. What a syrup of sewage and bile the nfl has become.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 14, 2022, 09:46:44 am
Fields is not a pocket passer. He cannot learn to be pocket passer because he's going to be in traction BEFORE he learns enough to be a pocket passer. So the solution is to have him drop back in the pocket ? There's lead in the drinking fountains at Halas Hall, for sure.....

The Bears have another goof at OC who seems to think whatever "system" he has is plug and play with the talent (kindly using that term) on offense. Sure he can seem to scheme guys open (an improvement from the previous visored bozo) but seems to lack the common-sense to not trust his eyes as to what is being done on the field (or is that Fields ?) :D

Absolutely BRUTAL offense. You've got to go back to the 30s-40s to find comparable week after week. Its sad to see what a laughing stock on offense this team is........

This franchise is currently where it is because a glorified ticket manager is in charge of A KEYSTONE FOUNDING FRANCHISE of the whole NFL because of his mommy. That's not an air raid siren at SF. Its GSH spinning in his grave......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 14, 2022, 09:52:16 am
Also the D at the start of the game was super aggressive and really limiting Wash.  Then either Wash adapted or we stopped be agressive and they started moving the ball like Carson Wentz was Joe Montana.  Not sure who made what adjustment, but that should get looked at as well.  Then again we only gave up 12 pts, but still. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 14, 2022, 09:59:58 am
As toxic as the NFL has become in recent years, some teams are actually fun to watch. Try the Bills, Chiefs, Bengals (yes the freaking BENGALS). Hell, even Miami has been fun to watch, as a football fan.

Still think the NFL still doesn't quite "get" what they did when the openly embraced the gambling community and failed to keep high standards of officiating (or keeping muddled, silly rules). I'm more infuriated at correctable calls every week (watch Redzone- its the best way to just watch football) than anything else. Its easy to ignore the lecturing, posturing and virtue signalling if you try hard enough when the game is actually good. But when a bad call is made it just takes the air out of it.

But the NFL is part masochist and part sadist. While it seems to revel in inflicting harm on itself and its product while at the same time gouge out fans' eyes with silly uniform decisions to help hawk merchandise (not to mention the aforementioned officiating troubles).

It is also too big to fail (for now). And watching a good football game (not the Bears, obviously) is great TV and will probably remain so for the near future...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on October 14, 2022, 10:08:32 am
It was astounding how with the game on the line they give the ball to Venus Jones, Pettit, and the Smith-Something guy who flubbed last week.  All three dropped the ball on crucial plays.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 14, 2022, 10:10:55 am
I missed the last 2 minute drive but what I did see is the OLine didnt allow Fields enough time to wait for his targets to get open. We wasted golden opportunities to score especially the one at the 1st half end and the hail Mary. They could have at least exited the half with a 3-0 lead. Its poor judgement.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 14, 2022, 03:17:16 pm
Poor judgment is McCasket's middle name....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on October 14, 2022, 08:43:05 pm
Bears are so bad there's a outcry for Prime members to get their money back because TNF has sucked so bad.....nice.....good to see the club progressing....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on October 15, 2022, 06:41:36 am
The Bears have an Offensive coordinator who thinks he can fit square pegs in round holes, calling plays for a glacially minded QB, whose blockers (and I use that term in the loosest possibly way) aren't even at pee-wee level throwing to stumbling, non-handed WRs. Yeah. That's a plan Poles. That's really going to work. Good job....

Luke Nagy is going to kill his career all in the name of pocket passer evaluation because the line is not capable of blocking pocket passing principles.  I'm pretty sure Baltimore had a better line but they didn't force feed the Flacco offense on Jackson.  They overhauled their offense completely in order cater to his strengths.  Jackson is now a more complete QB in the pocket with experience.  But he had the early foundation of success that allowed him to be more confident...AND THEN he learned to be a better pocket passer.  The Bears are "developing" Fields ass backwards and frankly it's heartbreaking.  I understand the fear of injury for "running" QBs running around too much, but he is in more danger behind this line than in the open field...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 15, 2022, 06:49:54 am
But we all know who is really to blame for the Bears woes- that glorified ticket manager momma's boy who is team president. Is it any wonder there have been more bad seasons that good ones since that family's ghoulish fingers have been running this franchise ? First Mickey (RIP) then George. The stink begins at the top......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BillSharp on October 15, 2022, 07:52:40 am
I can't defend Fields. He holds on to the ball way too long.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 15, 2022, 09:09:42 am
I felt this way last year when they retained visor head and a man who took more care of his hair than the team's draft capital and salary cap. Until then I'd given George a pass. Maybe this current crew can turn the ship around (there are signs it should) except the track record for anything the McCaskets put their hand to will fail (except to make them money- something that is very hard NOT to do in the NFL as it still is a golden goose). We are all Charlie Brown to the McCaskets' Lucy. Trapped forever repeating the same mistakes, over and over and over. The definition of insanity.....

As it stands, the Bears seem to make a run every 20 years or so. That is not enough. Not by a long shot.....

As a side not, a question I like to ask Bear fans is whether they would rather have a run of lengthy success like the Patriots, or that one magical season that will be forever legendary in NFL lore. There is no wrong answer, but the answer tends to reveal a lot of how that person's fandom is realized......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: method on October 15, 2022, 10:03:01 am
How anyone can judge Fields when the team around him is absolute trash is unreal. He had atleast 2 TD passes dropped in the end zone this week alone. Couple that with the insane levels of pressure he's facing when dropping back and there is no way you can reasonably evaluate his skill set.

Easy to make idiotic statements like "he holds on to the ball way to long", but hes holding on to try and get a clean pass, other wise his option is to throw the ball away over and over and over again on every single drop back.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 15, 2022, 11:41:25 am
https://sports.yahoo.com/bears-evaluate-every-player-roster-215916249.html

Long overdue. Maybe they can figure out why Fields has to run on every passing down.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 15, 2022, 02:43:21 pm

Fields issues are a combination of several things that most of us already know:

1 - the O-line is inconsistent at pass blocking - its like every game there's someone new screwing up but #67 always screws up and #62 is almost as bad
2 - the O-line is inconsistent at run blocking - feast or famine but no consistent holes and rarely any holes on crucial short yardage
3 - Wide receivers and separation - apparently there is a stat that says the Bears wideouts are #1 in least amount of separation
4 - Lack of use of the TE - especially in the red zone -  Kmet spends a lot of plays pass blocking - He's 6-6 and has a very good vertical - why can't we use him in the red zone like they used Jimmy Graham the last couple of years - isolate one on one end and throw  him a high ball that he can outrebound the shorter defenders
5 - play-calling - I usually don't criticize it because when it fails its a lack of execution.   But we don't see any creativity in getting guys open in the 5 to 10 yard area - the NFL has given offenses the advantage but the Bears are playing offense like they did in the 70s - also where are the slants?  where are the easy throws to the HB in the middle
6 - Fields holds the ball too long - he is #1 in the league - yeah his o-line and receivers suck but he has to get rid of the ball faster - trust his receivers that they will make a play -you can't throw the ball only when the guy is wide open
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on October 15, 2022, 10:50:50 pm
Exactly on Fields. The announcer even mentioned it. He's a NFL QB, he has to make that throw. He cannot wait for him to break wide open. NFL QBs push balls into tight spots. He is totally afraid of doing that. It's not all the recievers.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on October 15, 2022, 10:51:48 pm
My garage is going to look spotless after this season....both my teams-ND and the Bears, suck......again......so tired of this.  ::)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on October 16, 2022, 09:12:50 pm
My garage is going to look spotless after this season....both my teams-ND and the Bears, suck......again......so tired of this.  ::)

 Sporty so far in this point in time after six weeks its like fuucking a women and not allowed to cum.

 What's the fuuckin pisser is Justin Fields looks like he has Super Bowl written all over him.  ;D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on October 19, 2022, 01:19:40 am
I just know one thing....we've been at this for decades, griping together. I just want to watch them win for once, have a winning season. This losing is past getting old....it's done been there, bought the shirt, built a house and is living rent free.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 19, 2022, 04:39:02 am
If you think about it. It's almost as if we never fully recovered from Dave Wannstedt... We've had no consistency.. The once in awhile we're up, we have an injury that the team can't overcome.. Ap Ap Ap.... We suck..

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 19, 2022, 10:42:03 am

At this point we just have to see some sort of progress every week out of our young guys (i.e. Fields)  and be satisfied with that and deal with the losses.  The upside is that the draft position improves which means Poles has more opportunities to trade down and bring in hopefully more quality players.   This team will need around 3 rookies starting next year along with at least 2 or 3 good quality free agents (1 offensive lineman, 2 WRs, 2 defensive lineman at the least).

BUT, its all about the QB.  If Fields ain't it - then the Bears will be another 3 or more years away from being competitive.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 19, 2022, 01:23:02 pm
The upside is that the draft position improves which means Poles has more opportunities to trade down and bring in hopefully more quality players.

Wow. Agreed 32 5th, 32 6th and 32 7th rounders . Thats an incredible 96 new players to bring in to fortify the roster.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 19, 2022, 01:33:53 pm

The upside is that the draft position improves which means Poles has more opportunities to trade down and bring in hopefully more quality players.

Wow. Agreed 32 5th, 32 6th and 32 7th rounders . Thats an incredible 96 new players to bring in to fortify the roster.

If the Bears don't have to chase after a rookie QB in the next draft there may be opportunities to trade down the high #1 (maybe top 5 or so).  Additionally, the 2nd rounder will be high.  I'm not suggesting trading out of the first or the second round just perhaps sliding down a few spots which you can do if you are drafting in the top of each round. 

The goal would be to add a couple more players in the top 100 without sacrificing losing studs in R1 or R2.

I don't know where we will be drafting or what positions we will be drafting from next year but if the Bears are at the top of each round there's more room to trade down and collect more picks.

If you knew how to read instead of just spouting out your ass you'd have understand that I suggested that the Bears could use 3 or more starters out of the next draft.  That's kind of hard to do with a bunch of draft picks in R5 and beyond. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 19, 2022, 02:59:40 pm
Calm down Dallas. The love Poles has for rounds 5, 6, and 7 is visible. The results are visible so far. Admittedly the jury is out on his round 2 and 3 selections but you need to tone down your praise for him. We'll see what Poles does with 58. I expect him to pass on re-signing him. Too expensive for the Arlington Park Bears
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on October 19, 2022, 04:07:10 pm
The upside is that the draft position improves which means Poles has more opportunities to trade down and bring in hopefully more quality players.

Wow. Agreed 32 5th, 32 6th and 32 7th rounders . Thats an incredible 96 new players to bring in to fortify the roster.

 That was mean.  ;D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 19, 2022, 06:38:12 pm
Nah, just honest
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on October 20, 2022, 07:07:08 am
Bill Belichick Spends Seven Minutes, 1000 Words Hyping Up Bears (https://nesn.com/2022/10/bill-belichick-spends-7-minutes-1000-words-on-impressive-bears/)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 20, 2022, 10:20:50 am
Calm down Dallas. The love Poles has for rounds 5, 6, and 7 is visible. The results are visible so far. Admittedly the jury is out on his round 2 and 3 selections but you need to tone down your praise for him. We'll see what Poles does with 58. I expect him to pass on re-signing him. Too expensive for the Arlington Park Bears

I am not praising Poles.  I'm trying to look at the bright side of what's looking like another tough season for the Bears.   Got to find some hope and that's the young players developing (read Fields) and a better draft position next year to "hopefully" bring in more quality talent.

I will agree with you so far on the jury being out on the #2 and #3 picks.   Gordon was abused early in the season but may be coming around.  Brisker makes some big plays vs the run but also gave up some too.  I don't see him around the ball in the air.  Could it be that QBs avoid going after his guy?  I dunno.   We need to get the ball to Velus more - but not via punts.  He can still return kick offs.

As for #58 - I'd re-sign him if he doesn't want to be the #1 linebacker in the league - but he should be paid.  The tag looks like a possibility.  Would the Bears be messing around if Urlacher's contract was due?  I'm not saying Smith is Urlacher but he's the best player on our defense and the Bears can't let him walk away.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 20, 2022, 10:51:27 am
As for #58 - I'd re-sign him if he doesn't want to be the #1 linebacker in the league - but he should be paid.  The tag looks like a possibility.  Would the Bears be messing around if Urlacher's contract was due?  I'm not saying Smith is Urlacher but he's the best player on our defense and the Bears can't let him walk away.

Well The Bears canned a good GM after 85 because he was spending too much of the McCasket's money. Poles seems just the GM the McCaskets love. Seems he likes to squeeze that buffalo till it urinates. IMHO Poles lets

58 walk, NO TAG. Tags are too costly. Besides the Bears need every nickel for Arlington Park. I just know you are going to argue that
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 20, 2022, 11:05:55 am

Bears in 2022 have the third highest amount of dead cap money - over $69M.  In 2023 the Bears will be #1 in cap space available at $106M - which is almost twice as much as the #2 team.

Guess we just wait and see, but I don't recall in the past the Bears being cheap in regarding to spending up to the salary cap.  Actually, Pace was better signing free agents than he was in the draft.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 20, 2022, 03:54:20 pm
Well Bill talking up the Bears with word salad in order to look good (not that he has to care at this point in his career) after the shelacking he expects to put down on them on MNF. Not that he gives any fucks whatever what the media feel about him.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 20, 2022, 04:30:33 pm

Our defensive line has to be about the worst in the NFL.  Our offensive line is almost as bad but at least they're young and there is hope for growth.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 21, 2022, 04:54:27 am
As for #58 - I'd re-sign him if he doesn't want to be the #1 linebacker in the league - but he should be paid.  The tag looks like a possibility.  Would the Bears be messing around if Urlacher's contract was due?  I'm not saying Smith is Urlacher but he's the best player on our defense and the Bears can't let him walk away.

Well The Bears canned a good GM after 85 because he was spending too much of the McCasket's money. Poles seems just the GM the McCaskets love. Seems he likes to squeeze that buffalo till it urinates. IMHO Poles lets

58 walk, NO TAG. Tags are too costly. Besides the Bears need every nickel for Arlington Park. I just know you are going to argue that

The "they don't spend money" days are long in the rear view.  In the 2021 season just completed, the Jets, Browns and Lions were all in the top 5, with the Cowboys spending the most.  The Bears came in at 12th.  The Bengals, Chiefs, Bills, Rams - All playoff teams came in after the Bears.  I would accept your statement if you said they didn't spend wisely, but just stop with the Bears are cheap crap.  That is decades old thinking at this point.

Hopefully Poles spends the Bears moeny more wisely, but he will definitely spend it.

Source article:  https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/nfl-teams-highest-payroll-2021-bm05/
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 21, 2022, 06:58:18 am
The Bears are not cheap- they do spend money. They spend it stupidly, however, which is just as bad......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on October 21, 2022, 07:29:40 am
Exactly. Bears are second in the league in dead cap money for 2022... $56 million up in smoke....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 21, 2022, 05:00:28 pm
Throwing money away by the Bears goes a long way back. Remember Bryan Cox? That running back that Wannstedt got from the Giants, remember the rick Mier deal? Holy sh!t.. Inept is the Bears middle name..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 22, 2022, 07:07:25 am
The common thread to most of the modern ineptness is the McCaskets. They are the albatross around the Bears' neck......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: 46 on October 24, 2022, 09:45:53 pm
Bears beating the absolute living hell out of the Pats.  Waiting for the epic collapse…..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 24, 2022, 10:16:41 pm
No colapse tonight. 33-14 Bears. Held Pats scoreless in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on October 24, 2022, 10:21:15 pm
WOW, what a signature win in prime time for the Bears.

Coaches really made positive changes and players balled out.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 24, 2022, 11:12:11 pm
Roquan was a beast tonight. ESPN said that, not me. Will Poles re-sign him? He'd look like a fool if he doesnt. I sure hope so but my gut feeling says NO.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 25, 2022, 12:31:38 am

Smith doesn't play one of the elite positions on defense which is corner and defensive end.  But the guy makes plays and I'm not just talking about the sack and the pick.  Watch him on run plays get to the ball carrier fighting through traffic.  Watch him in space tackling a receiver in the open field.

If the Bears could get a #1 for him - maybe.  But I don't think anyone makes that trade in the NFL.

He needs to be a Bear next year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 25, 2022, 04:33:50 am
Big win for the Bears. They actually looked like an NFL team last night..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 25, 2022, 04:39:42 am
Belichick still finding out what it's like to not have a field general out there like Brady...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on October 25, 2022, 05:57:25 am
That is what I call a moral victory.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 25, 2022, 06:11:50 am
My 17 year old son said "I have never seen a Bears game where we dominated the other team like that".   


Yeap its been a little while since those days.   


Gotta say again I really like these coaches.  Play calling on both sides of ball was great tonight.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 25, 2022, 06:30:11 am
Wow. What a butt-kicking. No kidding that its been a LONG time since the Bears beat a team like that. Usually its grab a lead, hold on tight or attempt to come from behind. Ghost of GSH saying "not this week, Bill" ?

Stunner to be sure, but still want to see if its more of an outlier (a.k.a. perfect storm) or something more common. Only problem is that I was watching the Manningcast and I thought I saw some Oline injuries (they never talked about those).....

Fun to see them win that way. A couple of dozen of those and I think my faith will be fully returned :D

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on October 25, 2022, 06:45:59 am
I enjoyed the Manningcast figuring I can rewatch Buck and Aikman later on NFL +.  I wouldn't mind Reiff at RT.  Evaluating Borom may be important, but protecting Justin should take priority.  And assuming Patrick is sidelined, again, I would not mind seeing Eiselen at C even on the road.  It can't get any worse than Musti...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 25, 2022, 06:55:20 am
Wow. What a butt-kicking. No kidding that its been a LONG time since the Bears beat a team like that. Usually its grab a lead, hold on tight or attempt to come from behind. Ghost of GSH saying "not this week, Bill" ?

I kept saying to myself, keep scoring.  Kick a field goal, stack points,put the lead out of reach.  Too many times we see what you said.  Build a small lead and watch it evaporate.  Last night, they finished.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 25, 2022, 06:56:56 am
I don't watch the offensive line play, but how did Braxton Jones look in everyone's opinion?  I didn't hear his name called.  Which is usually a good thing.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 25, 2022, 07:04:02 am
Jones was Ok, Borom needs an upgrade, and if Rieff can play RT, put him in there.  And how long did Patrick last at C?  Handful of plays, and then he hurt his toe.  SMH.  We need a new C and a T and I think we might be ok on OL.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 25, 2022, 07:12:43 am
I thought Jenkis did a good job. He looks like a keeper too.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on October 25, 2022, 07:34:12 am
Surprisingly they ran behind Schofield during the fourth quarter run domination.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 25, 2022, 08:21:43 am
A better test will be this Sunday vs the Cowboys. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 25, 2022, 10:05:51 am

Braxton Jones has looked pretty good all season with the exception of the Washington game.  He's got long arms and quick on his feet - he's just not a road grader.   Borom struggled against Judon last night but overall he's been solid.  With Schoefields play last night I'm thinking Whitehair could move back to center when he returns assuming Patrick is out for a while.  Jenkins is a beast at guard.  It might be a stretch for him to play RT - he doesn't have the arm length.

Maybe we get a chance to see Leatherwood this season but its going to be hard to sit Schoefield down.

Next year we'll have Patrick at center with 2 younger centers to watch.  Bears have so many needs but hitting on a big RT would be nice.  Sometimes you can find those guys in the mid rounds.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 25, 2022, 10:30:49 am
I am kind of thinking Patrick is maybe frageeley.  First the hand, then the toe.  He hasnt played a lot.  I guess it will be interesting to see how long he is out.  Next year we will be able to see Kramer at C.  Dont know what we have there.  But we must upgrade over Musti.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on October 25, 2022, 12:44:55 pm
Fuckhim for beating the Bears in the SB, but I love his call (https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/1584722082415493122) against the zero blitz.  And man he was pissed (https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/1584746481164197889) the Bears didn't punch in 40.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on October 25, 2022, 02:37:41 pm
Fields is looking better but he still has a ways to go yet. Gotta throw that ball away when there's nothing instead of losing yards. And if there's nothing downfield, DON'T toss it into traffic! The poor guy looked worn out after the first half. His line was going to get him killed and he had to keep running out of it....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 25, 2022, 03:16:05 pm
I think the best comment on the perfect storm in Foxboro last night was along the lines of "Bill Bellichek always takes away what a team does well on offense. Since the Bears do not do anything well on offense, he didn't know what to not take  away :D"
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 25, 2022, 05:09:19 pm
Haha, agreed. He sure didnt and took nothing away. It blew up in his face
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 25, 2022, 05:21:15 pm

I know we won, but I have a couple gripes.

Why can't the Bears on defense cover the end runs?  Ends/linebackers always crash inside on short yardage and leave the end of the LOS unprotected.  #33 had no idea where the ball was on the Pats TD run around left end.

Why is #55 starting?  Gipson had one of the most important plays of the game with his tipped pass.  Robinson also had a tipped pass that led to the Smith pick.  #99 and #91 need to get more snaps.  BTW #55's line reads no tackles, no assists, no PDs, nothing.

And one more gripe on offense.

Let's get N'Keal Harry and Velus Jones more involved in the offense.  If Velus isn't a good route runner yet, just line him up and run a fly pattern.   You do know he runs the 40 in 4.31.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 25, 2022, 05:29:05 pm
Haha. The Bears will never be in a perfect world. I know its hard for you to accept that.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 25, 2022, 06:14:14 pm

I have my opinions on what could make the the Bears better without crying for drafting/signing 5 pro bowl offensive lineman when we know that can't happen - I know its hard for you to accept that.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 25, 2022, 06:24:54 pm
I most certainly accept that. Thats never going to happen.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: 46 on October 25, 2022, 07:53:27 pm
How bout just keep running the hell out of the football until someone stops you. St. Ditka always said and I quote “run the ball, stop the run”. So sayeth his Bearness. Why not? Those blinding fast spindly safeties you drafted for passes won’t help you when a 210+ lb fullback comes steaming through to level them.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 25, 2022, 10:30:35 pm

Cowboys are concerned about the Bears run game:
https://www.wfaa.com/article/sports/nfl/cowboys/dallas-cowboys-trade-johnathan-hankins-las-vegas-raiders/287-abb99ea3-8321-4589-a01b-239d85b39ca0?fbclid=IwAR2wtl-gAs7ySNCfhk4ZCbY6ukdfznYSbu0pfgGaoj-zILB-ai117zHIIEE
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 27, 2022, 09:23:18 am
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/26/bears-lucas-patrick-headed-to-injured-reserve-sam-mustipher/?itm_source=parsely-api
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on October 27, 2022, 03:09:07 pm

 I remember when the San Diego Chargers would go like 1-7 and then win 8 straight.

 That could be us.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 30, 2022, 08:09:14 am
Well this has a feeling of a Charlie Brown/Lucy type game. Can't shake that feeling. Hope to at least see growth and no injuries......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 30, 2022, 11:42:47 am
Go Bears!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 30, 2022, 11:56:26 am
I hate those orange uniforms..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 30, 2022, 12:46:11 pm
Defense is totally nonexistent!!! WTF?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: method on October 30, 2022, 12:47:38 pm
Cowboys oline is mauling the defense.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 30, 2022, 01:33:31 pm
Since Roquan was literally crying at his press conference because Quinn was traded, he has been non-existent today.  Has he made a single play?  Reiff seems ok at RT.  Vildoor is getting picked on, but for good reason.  I expect a loss, and it wont bother me one bit.  A couple more turnovers could change all of that.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Chris27 on October 30, 2022, 01:35:51 pm
46 passing yards and 5.7 yards per completion.

The leading rusher is the QB again.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on October 30, 2022, 01:40:40 pm
That was the kind of half where you can see how much they need a true number one receiver.

A lot of “almost “ catches by average guys.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JeffH on October 30, 2022, 02:30:49 pm
Big talent deficit, but this is a well-coached and well-prepared team.

Wearing Chicago Bears uniforms.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on October 30, 2022, 03:11:10 pm
So we gave up almost 10/yds per play.  I have been a HUGE Roquan fan, but if I was Poles I would be taking any and all offers for him.  His play today was VERY disappointing.  Actually the entire D played pisss poor.  We have a very long way to go. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: method on October 30, 2022, 04:33:48 pm
29 pointe against a top 5 defense. And likely just gave teams a way to beat the cowboys with the run attack.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on October 30, 2022, 05:53:45 pm
I hate those orange uniforms..

Dude it aint the color of the uniforms. Man its the quality of the player in the uniform.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: 46 on October 30, 2022, 06:12:41 pm
Talent gap, the bear almost had a 50 burger hung on them. stating the obvious. you cant' let the other side ring up 4 in row on you. Better next week I hope. I have started watching again, I confess.




Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on October 30, 2022, 06:19:35 pm
The D was pathetic... The O was pretty decent. Fields just ain't there.. Our run game is good. I'm guessing the D is dragging it's bottom lip over Quinn..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on October 30, 2022, 06:56:27 pm
They picked on Vildor mercilessly.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BillSharp on October 31, 2022, 12:25:25 am
the Dallas RBs had huge holes to run through & their receivers were wide open all day. It was a no coverage defense without any pressure.

On offense the Velus Jones drop of the long pass sticks in my mind. That guy has been worthless.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 31, 2022, 02:37:58 am

Stop the presses - Bears actually throw to Cole Kmet in the red zone!  Poor Kmet - he spends 3/4 of his time on passing down pass blocking.  Sometimes all alone on a DE.  Largely ignored when he does run patterns. 

Hard to criticize Fields performance with a 120 rating and 2 passing and 1 rushing TD, but he still has problems feeling pressure.  Yeah, his athletic ability gets him out of harms way more times than not.  But he gets so focused on his receiver he sometimes misses a pass rusher running free.  And why is that pass rusher running untouched - the blocking scheme often leaves one of the ends unblocked. 

Yeah, worst game from Roquan in a while.  Cowboys receiving TE Schultz pushed Smith down the field with a block.

And no stats for #55...again.  I like Gipson and Robinson, but the interior guys rarely make plays.  They are very good at one thing - getting blocked.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BillSharp on October 31, 2022, 03:52:25 am
"Bears actually throw to Cole Kmet in the red zone!  Poor Kmet - he spends 3/4 of his time on passing down pass blocking.  Sometimes all alone on a DE.  Largely ignored when he does run patterns."

Bingo! I've never seen a TE block so often on pass plays. He was thrown to twice today and caught both - not nearly enough.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 31, 2022, 06:50:46 am
Well, can't say that was unexpected. Charlie Brown/Lucy game for sure. And let's burn those ugly ass jerseys for christs sake.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on October 31, 2022, 06:53:38 am
In the first 15 minutes Hamp and OB surprisingly ripped the offense to shreds.  Maybe there is a segment of the fanbase that still believe a wild card is attainable in a wide open NFC.  Outside of the upcoming divisionals, especially against that fake ass 1st place team (hello V2), wins and losses don't really matter to me anymore this season.  The defense will have their ups and downs but the Bears have a defensive HC with a decent track record.  That can be remedied in season and off.  My 2 main priorities for the rest of the season are the following...

1)  Justin Fields stays healthy behind this hazardous sieve of an offensive line and is able to play a full season.

2)  Justin Fields show signs that he doesn't suck, improves, and establishes that he is worthy to build around.

IMO, So far, so good...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 31, 2022, 10:33:50 am
Despite losing this game, the offense looks better. They need to work on 2 point conversions though...

The Dallas defense not given up a lot of TDs all year but they gave up 4 today and not in garbage time.

Kind of concerned that the defense fell off a cliff though.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on October 31, 2022, 11:11:01 am

A good number of players on this defense won't be here next year - or at least I hope so.   For example, the interior defensive lineman could be here but they should be backups only.  Vildor should be a 4th CB.  And I'm having my doubts on Gordon.  Is he playing nickel cuz he doesn't have the speed to play outside?

And why do the Bears start out the first half playing this loose zone defense then in the 2nd half tighten it up?  Hard to blame the DBs too much - there is virtually no pressure on every pass play.

And while I'm in complaint mode.  Why doesn't the Bear offense attack the middle of the field with passes?    Almost everything is outside the hashes.  No WR or TE slants.  No quick pass to the running back over the middle for easy yardage. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davep on October 31, 2022, 11:45:38 am
The Bears have forgotten what wins football games. 

The defense has to be outstanding, and no defense can be outstanding without a pass rush.  And in spite of the edge rushers getting all the press, it has to start with the defensive tackles.  Top DTs HAVE to be double teamed, and when they are, the interior is clogged up with bodies, and the edge rushers are free to roam.

Spending top choices on defensive backs is a sucker's play until the line is dominant.  Buddy Ryan had it right.  If you pressure the QB, it doesn't really matter if your DBs are great.  And if you don't pressure the QB, great DBs are not going to help much.

The strategy this off season should be simple.  Bring in the best defensive tackles you can get, either through free agency or the draft.  After that, bring in the best offensive linemen you can get, either through free agenty or the draft.  After that, you can look at wide receivers and defensive backs.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on November 01, 2022, 05:01:11 am
A good number of players on this defense won't be here next year - or at least I hope so.   For example, the interior defensive lineman could be here but they should be backups only.  Vildor should be a 4th CB.  And I'm having my doubts on Gordon.  Is he playing nickel cuz he doesn't have the speed to play outside?

And why do the Bears start out the first half playing this loose zone defense then in the 2nd half tighten it up?  Hard to blame the DBs too much - there is virtually no pressure on every pass play.

And while I'm in complaint mode.  Why doesn't the Bear offense attack the middle of the field with passes?    Almost everything is outside the hashes.  No WR or TE slants.  No quick pass to the running back over the middle for easy yardage.

Early in the season, Fields was sailing those throws over the middle, and I think that is why they went away from those balls.  That and the slippery finger drops by mostly middling receivers.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on November 01, 2022, 05:03:37 am
The Bears have forgotten what wins football games. 

The defense has to be outstanding, and no defense can be outstanding without a pass rush.  And in spite of the edge rushers getting all the press, it has to start with the defensive tackles.  Top DTs HAVE to be double teamed, and when they are, the interior is clogged up with bodies, and the edge rushers are free to roam.

Spending top choices on defensive backs is a sucker's play until the line is dominant.  Buddy Ryan had it right.  If you pressure the QB, it doesn't really matter if your DBs are great.  And if you don't pressure the QB, great DBs are not going to help much.

The strategy this off season should be simple.  Bring in the best defensive tackles you can get, either through free agency or the draft.  After that, bring in the best offensive linemen you can get, either through free agenty or the draft.  After that, you can look at wide receivers and defensive backs.

That was on full display after our defensive meltdown at Dallas.  I turned on the Bills Packers game for some solace and was rewarded watching the Bills defensive tackles wreck the Packers offensive line and put pressure on Rodgers.  None of our tackles have the "meat in the seat" that the Bills have.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 01, 2022, 09:36:16 am

Early in the season, Fields was sailing those throws over the middle, and I think that is why they went away from those balls.  That and the slippery finger drops by mostly middling receivers.

Yeah, but I'm talking the short ones.  A quick slant.  Or just have the tight end go over the middle for 5 or 6 yards.  Get the ball out of Fields hand quicker.  It seems like every pass Fields holds the ball waiting...waiting...   Maybe opposing defenses play a tight man to force tight windows and eliminate shorter throws.  But then they have to deal with Fields running.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on November 02, 2022, 05:57:26 pm

 Win or lose from one game to the next ... did we improve ?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 03, 2022, 06:57:06 am
That's all that matters. They can win a game and still "lose" (injury, bad precedent being set etc etc) or lose a game and "win" (basically what happened last week). The team they started with at the beginning was not going to be the same at the middle or end of the season. Its going to be a very bumpy ride for the foreseeable future.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BearHit on November 03, 2022, 08:41:08 am
Are you not ENTERTAINED?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on November 03, 2022, 03:24:52 pm
With what and how do you interpret the word entertained?  That smacks of Cubbishness.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davep on November 03, 2022, 04:35:26 pm
What the hell is cubbishness?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on November 03, 2022, 04:51:58 pm
With what and how do you interpret the word entertained?  That smacks of Cubbishness.

From the movie Gladiator
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on November 04, 2022, 07:21:57 am
It’s a term White Sox fans use. It’s gibberish.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on November 04, 2022, 04:32:39 pm

 BEARRSSE Vegas underdogs at Soldiers against Miami.

 Chase Claypool breakout ?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 05, 2022, 06:37:47 am
Chicago has been where "receivers go to die." Can they break that pattern ? Its kind of must see TV (like a possible train wreck) for Bear fans this week. Let's see what they got......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 06, 2022, 01:25:59 pm
Well, the offense is coming along but the defense is atrocious.

It looks like they have been in a prevent defense the entire game.  The Dolphins have been moving the ball easily through the air to wide open receivers.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on November 06, 2022, 01:27:22 pm
As much as we need better OL, we are desperate for D talent.  We havent touched/hit Tua, well except for the sketchy roughing penalty.  Otherwise his uniform wont even be needed to be washed.  And what is with Jaylon Johnson giving Tyrek Freakin Hill soooooo much room.  I mean seriously.  On a good note, the O seems to be clicking.  Cant wait to see what Claypool can do once he learns the plays. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on November 06, 2022, 01:54:41 pm
Anyone still think Fields just doesn’t have “it”?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 06, 2022, 02:33:53 pm
Total BS PI call!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 06, 2022, 02:59:32 pm
That was 100% PI!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 06, 2022, 02:59:44 pm
Are you kidding me?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on November 06, 2022, 03:00:27 pm
How the hell is that not called?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on November 06, 2022, 03:04:59 pm
The refs once again screwed the Bears.. blatantly!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on November 06, 2022, 03:05:46 pm
For a second I thought we were playing the Packers, with the noncall PI penalty.  The phins went thru our D like a hot knife thru butter.  I mean we are starting an undrafted rookie at MLB.  Our DL has next to zero pressure.  We could use another good CB.  Oh almost forgot that bs PI penalty against Jackson.  I am not too upset with the loss, as it helps my draft pick narative, but still. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on November 06, 2022, 03:06:53 pm
I would like to know how the refs so BLATANTLY get away with screwing the Bears, over and over.  Like are they on the take?  I know the Bears get no respect, but still, some of those calls have to go our way.  Maybe next year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on November 06, 2022, 03:10:03 pm
That idiot was looking right at the play…unshielded by anyone, and still blew it…it was blatant!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on November 06, 2022, 03:17:12 pm

 Once again with draft picks and more cap space than GOD next year ...

 the quekstion is asked today ...

 are we improving even in a loss ?

 Imagine what we will be like after the 2023 draft.

 Heh!  :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on November 06, 2022, 03:23:49 pm
Two horrible call and missed call, a cheap punt block TD, St Brown drops first down catch.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BillSharp on November 06, 2022, 03:55:52 pm
don't like blaming the refs, but it was SO obvious. Crap PI call on Jackson then Claypool gets mugged at the end & the ref has his thumb up his ass.

Sandborn was OK, the other LBs sucked. DL got no pressure.
What was with the no coverage? The Fin receivers wide open on every play. Thought Gordon wasn't interested in covering anyone.

On offense the lack of run blocking is a big concern, our RBs were given no holes. Mustipher has to go.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on November 06, 2022, 05:06:24 pm

 I like it that Fields broke the NFL rushing record for QB's.

 I also HATE it because what does that say about our OFFENSE ?

 Buffalo is one Josh Allen away from back to MEDIOCRATY if he gets injured.

 Sound familiar ?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: 46 on November 06, 2022, 05:23:31 pm
Saying out of the 30's depression "steak yesterday, and steak tomorrow, but no steak today".  Bears used too be good, or gonna be good, but not good now. The building for the future Jas gone on for how long and how many coaches gms?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on November 06, 2022, 05:29:18 pm
Saying out of the 30's depression "steak yesterday, and steak tomorrow, but no steak today".  Bears used too be good, or gonna be good, but not good now. The building for the future Jas gone on for how long and how many coaches gms?

 I'm drinkin beer too.  ;)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 06, 2022, 05:41:00 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/refs-cost-bears-their-game-vs-dolphins-with-one-of-the-worst-missed-pass-interference-calls-you-ll-ever-see/ar-AA13NCTN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c191970a52324248b710d9627584221d
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 07, 2022, 01:51:12 am

Fields game was pretty impressive considering he got little help from the run game.  Bears often had to keep 2 extra guys to pass block meaning there only 3 guys running pass patterns.  Braxton Jones again struggled and Mustipher is the weak link. 

And Kmet is becoming quite the red zone threat after a slow start.  Claypool will help upgrade the offense to middle of the road...this year.   

Bears DBs faced an excellent set of receivers and without any sort of consistent pass rush made their jobs almost impossible.  Bears defense ONLY giving up 28 was quite the feat - along with the 4th down stops.  But there's just not any playmakers out there.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on November 07, 2022, 08:33:46 am
Yeah strangely Bear offense out scored Dolphin offense.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on November 07, 2022, 05:39:55 pm

 I should feel morose after a loss but instead I feel optimistic.

 What's wrong with me ?

 Am I catching BEARRSSE fever ?

 Is it like Covid but good ?

 Will a cure be found in March of 2023 of free agent signings and then a booster shot in the April 2023 draft ?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 08, 2022, 08:38:02 am

I'm always pissed off after a loss but as long as Fields is showing progress I do get some consolation that our draft position improves.  But it sure would be nice if our rookies were more consistent.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 11, 2022, 02:48:21 pm

Getsy sounds like he's in love with Reilly Reiff.  Unless Borom is just so bad that he'll threaten the livelihood of Fields then you play Reiff.   Bears don't learn anything about Borom if he doesn't play.  Or maybe they aleady have.

Dante Pettis?  EQ St. Brown?  And will Pringle suit up this weekend?  I now everyone is down on Velus Jones - but he needs some snaps.  Same with Harry.

If Bears beat Detroit there will be all this media attention about shooting for the playoffs.  I'm not saying they are out of the question - but let's look at the young guys instead of journeyman who won't be here next year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on November 11, 2022, 10:32:04 pm

 123 motherfuukin MILLION dollars in cap space ...

 a FIRST round draft pick ...

 Potential Campbells Soup endorsement's ...

 and last but not lest ...

 a thank you from grateful fans everywhere !
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 13, 2022, 06:13:27 am
I still feel this is a Charlie Brown/Lucy game, if only because so many folks seem to feel this is a pretty sure win for the Bears. This is where they have been pants-ed by other teams. But it is the Lions, so you never really know....

No injuries, more growth please !
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on November 13, 2022, 08:18:44 am
I don't see anything as a sure win... It is the Lions, but..... this is the Bears..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on November 13, 2022, 11:08:13 am
Our best OL out, the rest, meh.  Not good:

With about 90 minutes to go until kickoff, the Bears announced their inactive list. Starting cornerback Kindle Vildor is sidelined with an ankle injury he sustained in the Bears week 9 home loss to the Miami Dolphins. Other Bears who are not expected to suit up include:

WR Velus Jones Jr.
RG Teven Jenkins
DE Al-Quadin Muhammad
WR N'Keal Harry
DB Harrison Hand
OL Ja'Tyre Carter
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on November 13, 2022, 01:13:23 pm
Our D is putrid.  Justin Fields is amazing.  That about sums it up. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 13, 2022, 02:09:17 pm
What a flop to get the cheap 15.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 13, 2022, 02:15:13 pm
Sanborn is making a ton of plays today.

These stupid penalties have to stop!  Although several of them were just bad calls.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 13, 2022, 02:27:58 pm
Fields takes it to the house again!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 13, 2022, 02:28:49 pm
He missed the xp.

Why do I feel like that is going to cost them the game?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on November 13, 2022, 03:01:16 pm
Bravo.  That loss is on the D.  Period.  Helps my draft pick narative, but I was hoping for a win.  Oh and we gave Dan Campbell his FIRST win on the road.  So Bears. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on November 13, 2022, 03:02:58 pm
Of course, the Bears find a way to lose the game...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on November 13, 2022, 03:03:56 pm
I just don't get Santos... Someone needs to check to see if he's doing some betting on the side.. Him and the refs..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 13, 2022, 03:07:45 pm
At this point I don't really care if the Bears win or not.

But there are multiple bad calls against them every single game.  The defense is bad enough without the refs giving the opposing team extra yards and downs.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on November 13, 2022, 03:11:58 pm
How do you lose this game?

Oh well it’s a throw away year anyway.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: method on November 13, 2022, 03:33:20 pm
21 4Q points to the lions... ouch. What little I saw, Fields continues to look better each game.

Team needs to spend Free agent money on both lines, with the quantity of cash Bears have, we need to sign a TOP tackle and 2nd tier Guard. and 2 on the Dline.

Then go BPA in the draft, maybe even trade down into the teens and pick up additional picks.  Not sure who is available in the FA market for WR next year, but would be good to get one there as well.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 13, 2022, 04:51:44 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bears-lose-interception-thanks-to-terrible-call-by-referees/ar-AA144aNQ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a86d176df49d4f4f97685e5812d5b409
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: wmljohn on November 13, 2022, 05:49:23 pm
When was the last time the Bears scored An average of 30 points per game over a four game stretch?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on November 13, 2022, 06:20:04 pm
Been a long time..

The thing I like, we're running the ball. It's so much easier to control the game when you can run.. Hopefully we add a few good players and we get rid of the mistakes. Penalties killed us today..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 13, 2022, 09:32:18 pm
Probably about the same time they gave up 30points a game over that span.....improve in one area, disintegrate in the other....Bearrrsse....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 14, 2022, 10:10:34 am

I really can't fault the offense when they put up 30...again.  But where is Claypool....2 targets. 

Our best o-lineman Sunday was probably Mustipher.  Braxton Jones had another inconsistent game - he struggles with power rushes.  But that first holding call was bad.  Jenkins was out but his replacement Schoefield is pretty consistent.  Too bad he's 32.  Whitehair was solid but had one huge whiff on pass-pro.

And speaking of whiffs.  Kmet has problems blocking downfield.  I've noticed several games where he misses his blocks.  Yesterday he had a corner on a sweep and had to grab his facemask.  He's very good pass blocking and now he's FINALLY get some attention in the pass game.  Maybe I'm nitpicking.  But I love that they are not only targeting him in the red zone but down the field.

Its like Getsy has a new toy (Justin) and just can't stop calling his number.  He's just got to be careful in Fields taking on those hits - but most of the time when he can't avoid contact he's delivering the punishment - not the tackler.  You'd like to see a more polished passing attack though but I guess I can't complain with 4 TDs.

Defensively.  Our d-lineman need to slow down a bit before attempting a sack.  Jared Goff is no Fields.  But he was constantly taking a small step to avoid potential sacks.  Get under control.  Jones had his best game.

I really had no expectations for Sanborn even after a head a pretty impressvie preseason.  He was credited with 2 sacks (really only 1 that I recall) and that pick that was taken away with that bad call (I think Johnson hit the receiver in the throat but not the head).  He's not Roquan but he might prevent the Bears from chasing a high dollar FA or a high draft pick.

Our our DBs do bad that they can't ever play man on 3rd down.  Constant 3rd and longs and the Lions EASILY pick up 10 to 20 yards with the same crossing patterns over and over.  I guess part of that is lack of pass pressure.  I can't believe I am saying this but I missed Kindle Vildor.

I know we all complain about our O-line but the front 4 needs a lot of attention. 

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on November 14, 2022, 11:27:32 am
Yeah several times guys break through the line and miss Goff running right past him.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on November 14, 2022, 02:04:12 pm
Hands to the face penalty that nullfied the Sanborn INT

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FheUp-zWAAEuT7_?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 14, 2022, 02:31:52 pm

It's OK - the NFL will issue an apology in a few days.

What gets me is the guy falling down, laying down and then having to be helped off the field.  This appears to be a setup by their coaching staff.  I'd be interesting to see what the Detroit papers are saying.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 14, 2022, 09:52:26 pm
Officiating is deciding games. Happened to us, and to the Cowboys this weekend. It's getting worse....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: BearHit on November 15, 2022, 04:41:07 am
It's happening in College football too - ruining the games
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 15, 2022, 06:26:31 am
When the NFL went from the nod/wink relationship with organized betting to actually embracing it, they failed to see the long term implications of the move. On one end it meant even more $$$ (the primary goal of any business), but it also meant that any look of impropriety (even when its almost just incompetence and human error) could bring the whole sport into question.

There is no plausible deniability anymore for the NFL. I still don't think they "get" this. Hence the resistance to cleaning the rules up and doing things that are so common sense as to be almost inevitable in any thinking organization (full time officials, challenge any play, sky judge etc) don't get done because of the amount of hubris of the organization. If hundreds of thousands of people can see things that are obvious calls/no calls where a handful of officials on the field cannot, the optics are bad and the perception is that things might actually, indeed, be fixed.

They need to think about this. A Black Sox scandal is inevitable at some point. its human nature. Too much money is involved.......

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 15, 2022, 08:51:54 am

Remember the Rams/Saints (I think) playoff game where the obvious PI call was never flagged.

NFL changed the rules but the referees conspired to not reverse any PI calls or non-calls.   This reflects up to NFL mgmt who cares more about being politically correct than to make the actual game better.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 20, 2022, 09:46:36 am
Well....looking at the Bears remaining games, I don't see much in the way of wins. Maybe another one? 4 and 13??  ::)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: otto105 on November 20, 2022, 12:06:57 pm
Geezsus dallas,


Politicizing PI calls?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 20, 2022, 12:10:59 pm
Too easy.... ::)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 20, 2022, 12:33:02 pm
He can't hit those deep routes....not good...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 20, 2022, 12:35:29 pm
Would I be surprised if the refs got this easy turnover call wrong? Nope....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 20, 2022, 02:54:39 pm
Fields won't last the season running as much as he does....it's stupid. QBs are not runners, they're throwers....he's not a fricking running back.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 20, 2022, 02:55:47 pm
Ends with a high pass from Fields....stupid....Bearrssse.....pathetic
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on November 20, 2022, 02:57:29 pm
I think he might have been throwing that ball to Mooney.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on November 20, 2022, 03:00:19 pm
As I've eluded to, Fields durability...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on November 20, 2022, 03:02:21 pm
Well I am glad they lost, not glad Fields has both hamstring and shoulder injuries.  Schofield had a bad game.  Really bad.  We need Jenkins back.  Heck we need several new OL please.  And some DL.  Maybe a LB or two. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 20, 2022, 03:29:55 pm
I get this Michael Vick vibe with Fields. Might get a playoff out of him and that's about it. I don't see him taking us anywhere. He has to throw better....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on November 20, 2022, 04:22:22 pm

 Being embarrassed in a loss is unacceptable.

 Losing in a game that comes down to the wire is not.

 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 20, 2022, 04:38:21 pm
JJ, how many losses constitutes a embarrassment?? BTW, Lions beat the Giants today....we are the sole bottom feeders of the Division. Enjoy.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on November 20, 2022, 05:01:33 pm
Offense looks worn out.

Fields has to work with Mooney and the Northwestern JV team yet he’ll take the blame.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on November 20, 2022, 06:18:49 pm
Bears quarterback Justin Fields on his left shoulder injury: ‘The pain right now is pretty bad’


Just great!!I can't help but to think that Getsy's play calling is to benefit himself. Not the team and certainly not Fields..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 20, 2022, 06:31:03 pm
The Bears take the field with what looks like 9-10 guys  on each side of the ball to every other team's 11. They take turns screwing up, which although good for draft position, is not good as it can become a bad habit. Right now the Lions look more like the Bears and the Bears more like the Lions. Let that sink in for a moment.

They need some non-turnstiles in front of Fields and a bunch of other self-inflicted wounds to the defense that will have to be accounted for. Poles will have to nail this next draft (no duds) and FA (not looking that good so far- very underwhelming) to make a respectable team next year. Otherwise this team will have BECOME the Lions of years past.....

Truly is weird that the Bears have some high scoring fantasy numbers from certain players but absolutely suck at winning football games. Not sure what to think of that.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on November 20, 2022, 07:27:33 pm
We’re competitive in every game, and we’re positioning ourselves for a great draft pick in a season where expectations were low anyway.

What’s the problem?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 20, 2022, 08:01:28 pm
If Fields has to sit for a bit to get healthy it is a win/win.  He gets to learn from the sidelines and not get beat up or hurt worse.   I don't want him playing hurt.  I want him to sit until healthy then hopefully get back in there and be a better passer.

Siemen will lose games while improving the draft picks.  He also gets to take the abuse behind this terrible O-line. 

We simply cannot win with this defense.  Plus the special team screw ups.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 21, 2022, 01:24:38 am

I said last week that Getsy has this new toy and doesn't want to put it down.  Fields hurts his shoulder on one play and Getsy calls the same play again.  Can we work on the downfield passing game.

Bears can't run a screen.  Tried it once with Ebner to the right.  Blown up.  Next play to the left side.  Blown up.  Ebner can't block and can't run.   Both guards today sucked.  The best lineman today was #70.  Held his own on an island most of the game.

And where is #10.  Two 5 yard catches.  Really?   

And we should re-sign Montgomery.  Bears FiNALLY target  him down the field.  He get yards when there are no holes...but Herbert make more yards when there are holes.  Hopefully they can sign  him to a reasonable extension.  He's only 25.

I don't want to see #55, #90, and #96 on this team next year.

And special teams.  How many weeks in a row have the Bears given up a huge play on special teams?


Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 21, 2022, 03:46:07 am
Actually they were running screens quite often at the beginning of the season and went away from it.  They need to get back to it.

Now that defenses are worried about him running they need to use that to their advantage without actually running all the time.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on November 21, 2022, 04:38:41 am
Fields has no business playing next week.  And as much as I hate to say it, if he has to carry over the bye and miss the Puke game, so be it.

I'm fine with the loss sizing up Carter for a Bears jersey, but the first 2 play calls of the last drive were negligent at best.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 21, 2022, 06:37:20 am
I think Fields was hurt before that drive (he didn't look right leaving the field a few drives back) even though I think they mention he got hurt on the last drive. As the line is currently configured, if Fields is standing in the pocket for more than 2 seconds and not scrambling around, the play is usually dead and he gets crushed.

Losing is better for the draft but lets hope losing does not become the norm. They are out-talented by pretty much every team they play, so they have to compensate by attention to detail and effort, both of which is spotty at best. Without Fields this team is winless and losing games like the Vikings did today on a regular basis. I really think that the Bears have few (if any) players that would start on most other teams in the league (or at best be back-ups).

Other than Fields, there are no difference makers (yet) on either side of the ball. They have some building pieces, like Mooney, Montgomery, Herbert, Jenkins, Johnson (when healthy), Jackson (when his head is in the game) and some possible up and comers in Sanborn, Brisker and Gordon. That's like 10 guys. So essentially they are playing with half a team (at best) right now.

Time for Poles to earn his pay......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on November 21, 2022, 07:57:38 am
If Fields has to sit for a bit to get healthy it is a win/win.  He gets to learn from the sidelines and not get beat up or hurt worse.   I don't want him playing hurt.  I want him to sit until healthy then hopefully get back in there and be a better passer.

Siemen will lose games while improving the draft picks.  He also gets to take the abuse behind this terrible O-line. 

We simply cannot win with this defense.  Plus the special team screw ups.

I agree. Sit Fields. He is too valuable not to.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 21, 2022, 11:06:43 am

I'm gonna disagree.  If Fields is healthy - I say play him.  Getsy just has to limit the number of times he calls for #1 to carry the rock on running plays.

He's just got to be smarter about getting out of bounds, throwing the ball away if there's nothing open and Getsy has to call for some shorter routes with escape valves.  Fields is not a finished product he still has to work on his throwing angles, his deep ball, and his general pocket presence.

Bears should have talent to be more productive than they are with Mooney, Claypool and Kmet and Montgomery has always been a good receiver.  How long does it take to get Claypool in the offense?  And what about Velus.  Fastest guy on the field and he's a decoy.

As for Fields what message does that send to the rest of the team and the NFL if a healthy Fields sits.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on November 21, 2022, 11:14:14 am
I dont think Fields is going to be healthy.  And my favorite play yesterday was when he drilled a pass into the back of the helmet of Schofield.  Maybe a little wake up call to start blocking better???
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 21, 2022, 03:04:35 pm
I worry about the Special Olympics talent on the Oline is going to get him killed. He can't develop as a pocket passer if there is no pocket (he does have a few and missed a throw that was from a relatively clean pocket if I recall), but that is always the exception to the rule. If he takes a snap and stand in the pocket more than 2 seconds, the play usually goes bad. If he starts to move outside, then it starts to get exciting.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 21, 2022, 03:43:04 pm

If Fields is hurt then he sits.  If he's healthy - he plays.   He learns nothing from watching from the sidelines.   Bears just got to be smart on how they use him.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on November 21, 2022, 05:45:26 pm
Yup. Cant send him out to be killed. If he cant practice because he is hurting then you sit him. Sure he wants to be on the field playing, he is a competitor.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on November 21, 2022, 08:06:58 pm

 Hey FIELDS good news for your bent wing boo boo ...

 $125,305,758.00 (that's nine digits to you less educated) in cap space that a GM who actually PLAYED on Offensive Line gets to spend.

 Did somebody mention the ULTRA RARE first round draft pick ?

 BTW when we DO use first rounders on players ... we trade them away for less then what we used the first rounders for to get them.

 A PROUD Halas Hall tradition.   ::)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 22, 2022, 02:17:25 pm

I was watching MNF last night and it was amazing to see Garrapolo and Colt McCoy both delivering passes in 2 seconds.  And they were throwing into fairly tight windows.

I understand the talent difference in the O-line and the receivers between their teams and the Bears but the ball was coming out quickly.

Either Fields still lacks confidence in making those throws or Getsy does in calling them...or maybe both.

What would be interesting this weekend is to see what a pure passing QB like Siemian does against the Jets.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: method on November 25, 2022, 05:35:07 pm
I think fields waits for things to develop... he feels he can get the short yardage throws with his feet...

Those other QB's are happy to take a 4 yard pass and hope for the receiver to make a play... It all comes down to a massive talent gap at WR for the bears vs most competent teams.

Fields is likely to miss multiple weeks. so we'll see what happens with the back up  QB that cant run who makes decisions a tad bit faster.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 26, 2022, 05:03:38 pm

Good point about bypassing the short passes.  Not sure Bears' receivers are too happy when Fields takes off and they feel they are open.

It will be interesting to see how Siemian does behind the Bears much maligned O-line throwing to the much-maligned set of receivers.

As for Fields,  separated shoulder?  Partially torn ligaments?  Why is Eberflus even talking about Fields being day to day?  I guess he wants the Jets to have to prepare for 2 totally different QBs.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 27, 2022, 05:30:47 am
We may get to see both Simeon and Peterman at Qb today. The Jets D will be head hunting and wanting to take their frustration at last weeks loss on the hapless Bears O line.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on November 27, 2022, 11:02:38 am
I wonder who is the emergency third string qb???
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on November 27, 2022, 11:23:42 am
This could easily turn into a slaughter fest..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on November 27, 2022, 11:42:08 am
Peterman starting, Simien backup, Monty emergency QB…
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on November 27, 2022, 12:36:25 pm
Simien OK to start despite injury in warmups…and has looked good thru 1 quarter…
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on November 27, 2022, 01:26:35 pm
Our D is as soft as room temp butter.  Jackson whiffs on some tackles then hurts his foot and is out.  The O isnt tooooo bad, but man the D just blows chunks.  I hope they dont find a way to screw this up and win, I want that draft pick!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 27, 2022, 02:01:17 pm
Isn't calling two time outs in a row a penalty?

Jets called timeout.  Then they didn't snap the ball and called another before kicking the field goal. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 27, 2022, 02:26:05 pm
This team is sad and pathetic.

Why do I even bother watching this **** show?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on November 27, 2022, 02:33:21 pm
That became too much to watch.. Wow.. Slaughter fest is/was right..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on November 27, 2022, 02:40:19 pm
Monty is running hard today. He has definitely been worth watching.
 
The rest…meh…
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on November 27, 2022, 02:56:04 pm
So I noticed on O, when Reiff went out and Borom replaced him, our production stopped.  Not saying that is the reason, just saying.  Then when Borom went out, Simeon made that stupid INT at the goal line.  We need a new RT for sure regardless.  And oh I dont know 10 or 11 new guys on D.  It kind of blows that we traded OUR 2nd round pick for Claypool, not that he wont be good, but because it will be such a high pick.  At least Claypool got some targets today.  Lets see what we got.  Mooney injured, not good.  I really am not upset at all about today, although I wish they would have been more competitive. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 27, 2022, 03:04:18 pm
'With the first pick in the draft, the Chicago Bears choose....'

Not sure why you guys put yourself through this week after week.....I'm not a fan of constant losing....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on November 27, 2022, 03:49:01 pm
Sounds like you’re just a fair weather fan…
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 27, 2022, 03:55:40 pm
Seriously?? I've been on this board how long??  ::) Unlike you Dave, I'm sick and tired of losing...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 27, 2022, 03:57:36 pm
Constant 'bad weather' will crush anyones spirit....this team sucks, has for too long now, and it's tiring.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on November 27, 2022, 04:10:02 pm
Sporty, the point is this kind of season was expected, not a surprise.

A new RT center and improvement of the Pettit/ St Brown duo goes a long way on offense.

Anyone on the front seven defense will be an improvement.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 27, 2022, 04:33:53 pm
Regardless, I'm sick and tired of losing. I don't care where we're at with ANOTHER rebuild. Been through too many of these. How about some winning for a change instead of constant change at QB, change with coaching, change with players. Can we have a QB for more than a year? How about the defense doing something positive for once? Or figure out the Oline this decade?? It's beyond pathetic with this team. We're all 'cheering' for a high pick, and then they'll go pick Rashaan Salaam or Kevin White or Mitch Trubisky or David Terrell or Leonard Floyd....etc etc pathetic etc. You have confidence they'll get it right? I sure as hell don't! They can do NOTHING right. CAN'T pick a QB to save their lives, CAN'T find the right coach, CAN'T pick in the draft..... yeah, it's pathetic and very tiring.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 27, 2022, 04:54:36 pm
Since 1990, out of the four picks they've made in the top 6, they hit only once. Mark Carrier. If we go out to top ten picks, it's a pathetic 2 out of ten. I would count Roquan as a hit but they evidently didn't think so....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on November 27, 2022, 05:39:32 pm

 JJ wants a WR in the first round (BEARRSSE will pick a LB)

 JJ wants a LB in the second round (BEARRSSE will pick OL)

 JJ wants an OL in the third round (BEARRSSE will pick a WR)

 JJ has figured out DAA BEARRSSE draft system !!  :P
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: method on November 27, 2022, 05:48:28 pm
If draft occured today, Bears would pick 2nd. GREAT spot to trade down and add multiple picks. Someone will want a QB that high.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 27, 2022, 06:08:50 pm
I don't see them winning another game with all of these injuries.

They weren't deep to begin with.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on November 27, 2022, 06:13:12 pm
If draft occured today, Bears would pick 2nd. GREAT spot to trade down and add multiple picks. Someone will want a QB that high.

Depending on who is there, I would most likely agree, considering we need a lot of help.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on November 27, 2022, 06:19:11 pm
I know it's difficult to address every area of the team in the off season, but did the front office really think the O line was "good enough"? Aren't they supposed to be protecting our franchise QB?
When you ditch a backer like Smith, you better have the ability to draft. Otherwise those picks mean nothing.. Quinn, I was kinda "I don't know".. Smith? That has me wondering, I hope these guys know what they're doing..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on November 27, 2022, 06:25:50 pm
I don't see them winning another game with all of these injuries.

They weren't deep to begin with.

I looked at the schedule before the Jets game and said the same thing. And I hope we dont see Fields against the Pack. He doesnt deserve that.  Its even crazy to watch the game and still see Mustipher in there.




Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on November 27, 2022, 06:32:48 pm
They better not even think about playing Fields until that shoulder is 100%. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on November 27, 2022, 06:40:50 pm
They better not even think about playing Fields until that shoulder is 100%.

Agreed. Thats what happens when you dont have an OLine. Its the price you have to pay. I feel bad for Fields. Poles should have known this was going to happen. But I feel he doesnt really care.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 28, 2022, 09:23:20 am
So I noticed on O, when Reiff went out and Borom replaced him, our production stopped.  Not saying that is the reason, just saying.  Then when Borom went out, Simeon made that stupid INT at the goal line.  We need a new RT for sure regardless.  And oh I dont know 10 or 11 new guys on D.  It kind of blows that we traded OUR 2nd round pick for Claypool, not that he wont be good, but because it will be such a high pick.  At least Claypool got some targets today.  Lets see what we got.  Mooney injured, not good.  I really am not upset at all about today, although I wish they would have been more competitive.


Let's focus on the good things that happened yesterday.  The Jaguars won a game which elevates them to the 4 win level.  And the Ravens lost which enhances that 2nd round draft choice we own.

That's it folks.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 28, 2022, 09:28:18 am

I don't know what Borom was thinking when he totally ignored the DE.  He's serviceable but I don't think he'll be starting next year.  And Braxton Jones is getting help every other play on passing downs.  I'm seeing more flaws in Whitehair's game every week.   I'll give Jenkins a pass because he's playing a new position and was out about a month.   

Watch Kelce last night and you'll see what a real center is capable of doing.  As bad as our O-line is - I still think you have to get an elite d-lineman in R1.

Bears are competitive with a healthy team but once the starters start going down it gets ugly real fast.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on November 28, 2022, 09:50:51 am
So I noticed on O, when Reiff went out and Borom replaced him, our production stopped.  Not saying that is the reason, just saying.  Then when Borom went out, Simeon made that stupid INT at the goal line.  We need a new RT for sure regardless.  And oh I dont know 10 or 11 new guys on D.  It kind of blows that we traded OUR 2nd round pick for Claypool, not that he wont be good, but because it will be such a high pick.  At least Claypool got some targets today.  Lets see what we got.  Mooney injured, not good.  I really am not upset at all about today, although I wish they would have been more competitive.


Let's focus on the good things that happened yesterday.  The Jaguars won a game which elevates them to the 4 win level.  And the Ravens lost which enhances that 2nd round draft choice we own.

That's it folks.

I havent seen anybody left on our schedule we definitely could beat. The closest would be the Lions on the road, but they already beat us once
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 28, 2022, 02:42:24 pm
3 wins in a 17 game season.....rah, team......  when you think it couldn't possibly get worse.... ::)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on November 28, 2022, 03:02:46 pm
3 wins in a 17 game season.....rah, team......  when you think it couldn't possibly get worse.... ::)

Yup....agreed. Blind followers.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on November 28, 2022, 03:06:38 pm
And Poles has been given a blank check to run the team with no accountability.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on November 28, 2022, 03:30:12 pm
Would you rather he be held accountable by George, or some of the other first family?

Poles having no accountability would actually be a plus, in our situation. I doubt it's the case.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 28, 2022, 03:32:17 pm
The family itself has not a single clue how football works or who to draft or hire. They are all about the money and that's it. They have to hire help to hire coaches and GMs! May not be a worse football owning family in the league as far as understanding what they own and how it works....
The Fords with Detoilet are worse....McCaskets a close second....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 28, 2022, 04:07:09 pm
Oh and the Packers lost :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 28, 2022, 04:42:10 pm

Can't judge Poles or Eberflus based on the talent level of this year's team.  Half the starters are either journeyman 1 year guys or middle/late round draft picks thrust into starting roles.

Bears might be able to squeeze 3 or 4 starters out of next year's draft.  But there's not enough money to fix all the holes - there will be a more JAGs next year - just not as many as this year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 28, 2022, 07:00:11 pm
I'm beginning to think they need to beg Lovie to come back and coach. He's the only one of the menagerie they've had coaching this team that's had any success the last 30+ years.... that and pray they find another Urlacher in the draft....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on November 28, 2022, 10:03:44 pm

 Unfortunately there is no way we can move past Houston to the number one spot in the draft.

 What we can hope for is a JOHN LYNCH FUUCKOVER like the Frisco G.M. did to us in the Trubisky Panic.

 If we can nail some cherry front office enamored to some player we can clean up.

 Never the less and no matter what trading down from the (as currently projected) #2 spot in the first round means TWO #1's ,

 one lower down and one for dessert in 2024.

 Like the NYG's did to us to get Fields. And how is the NYG's season turning out so far ?

 MEANWHILE ...

 Why am I posting this here instead of on a 2023 DRAFT site ?

 I know some things are hard to admit to ... like yes the future is motherfuucking coming sweetpea ... I've tried to forestall it for the rest of you that hide from it ... but GOD said it's going to happen.

 And ... I just can't argue with GOD on your behalf.  ;)

 When HE is right and you are in the past.  :o



 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on November 28, 2022, 10:41:43 pm
I'm beginning to think they need to beg Lovie to come back and coach. He's the only one of the menagerie they've had coaching this team that's had any success the last 30+ years.... that and pray they find another Urlacher in the draft....

UGH! Puke
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on November 30, 2022, 02:10:19 pm
Ah, just what i figured.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-forecasts-big-win-165018803.html

Ha ha. "I own you" He is chomping at the bit. He'd get off his death bed to play the Bears. Might be time to brush the dust off Peterman.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on November 30, 2022, 02:21:09 pm
Ah, just what i figured.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-forecasts-big-win-165018803.html

Ha ha. "I own you" He is chomping at the bit. He'd get off his death bed to play the Bears. Might be time to brush the dust off Peterman.

 What's sad is this is the end. I 'ii miss him, in all those years he owned us.

 Had I wished Halas Hall could have made it the other way around all those years?

 I dunno ... why don't you ask them ?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on November 30, 2022, 02:45:17 pm
Ah, just what i figured.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-forecasts-big-win-165018803.html

Ha ha. "I own you" He is chomping at the bit. He'd get off his death bed to play the Bears. Might be time to brush the dust off Peterman.

I can if I absolutely have to, root for the Packers.  But I can never root against the Bears. 

I'll still be screaming my head off during the game - but afterward there is a calmness after these recent losses knowing that the Bears have climbed up the draft board.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on November 30, 2022, 03:22:19 pm
I can if I absolutely have to, root for the Packers.  But I can never root against the Bears. 

I'll still be screaming my head off during the game - but afterward there is a calmness after these recent losses knowing that the Bears have climbed up the draft board.

 Not only climbing up the draft board but not being embarrassed (other than Dallas) while doing it.

 Other then a mega paycheck for Smith ... who did we get rid on defense and what are they doing now ?

 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on November 30, 2022, 06:24:43 pm
You guys put a lot of faith in this front office to make the correct draft choice..Just sayin..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on November 30, 2022, 08:05:03 pm
Duh! ;D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on November 30, 2022, 08:10:56 pm
History suggests Chifan is right....too much history honestly. I think instead of picking high they should get as many picks as possible, that way they're more likely to hit on some then to miss on one or two....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 01, 2022, 05:35:50 am
Poles will have to hit on more than the average just to get this team towards average talent-wise. The odds are not good, but then again, miracles do happen ! :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on December 01, 2022, 06:55:32 am
He surely has to hit the high ones. Its where the must hit begins.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on December 01, 2022, 10:38:14 am

Expecting future rookies to produce especially their first year is asking a lot.

The current rookies Brisker, Gordon, Jones and Sanborn and Velus Jones need to take big steps next year.

Short term improvements should come from the FAs but even that's a crap shoot.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on December 02, 2022, 09:46:59 am
It appears the Bears are planning on starting Fields against the Pack Sunday. I personally think thats way too dangerous
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on December 02, 2022, 09:53:17 am

If he's healthy then why shouldn't he play?  Fields needs to get reps and the OC has to work with Justin to be more aggressive in the passing game rather than just taking off as much as he does.  Getsy also has to scale back the QB runs.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 02, 2022, 10:40:14 am
The only thing I worry about is the junior high offensive line will allow Fields to get hit even if he completes passes and runs for first downs.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on December 02, 2022, 10:40:29 am
If/when Nathan Peterman takes over at QB, any chance the refs feel sorry for the Bears and let some calls go our way?  Didnt think so, especially against he Puke.  lol
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on December 02, 2022, 11:30:45 am
The only thing I worry about is the junior high offensive line will allow Fields to get hit even if he completes passes and runs for first downs.

Siemen got sacked twice last week and one was on a total F-up where Borom just ignored his man. 

If Fields is healthy enough that he is not feeling pain and not at risk from doing further damage from his shoulder - play him.  If not sit him.

But Getsy has to limit the called QB runs.  Fields is pretty smart about the scrambles - he usually has the vision to know when to slide.  Less of that vision when he's running on a QB running play.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on December 02, 2022, 11:47:30 am
Fields is not “healthy “ but sports medicine doctors say there’s no particular risk of making it worse.

His shoulder gives him a lot of pain and will affect his throwing to some extent.

I’m more worried about getting his leg rolled up on or a severe concussion.

I would rather see Fields roll out every play and only run when there is a clear path to not getting hit.

No need to blow the engine in time trials.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on December 02, 2022, 12:43:01 pm

No need to blow the engine in time trials.

Agreed. Sit him. The remaining schedule is too dangers to blow the engine up.

Like you arent winning any of the games if he does play, you just endanger his career, which seems what some here want
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on December 02, 2022, 12:44:09 pm
And lets not overlook the Pack with dirty/late hits on Fields.  Lets protect him from that as well.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on December 02, 2022, 12:50:12 pm
We know they do that.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on December 02, 2022, 01:42:25 pm

Better not play him in preseason then.  Or in any future games when the Bears are up or down by 2 TDs.  Maybe we could put a dress on him too so the big bad Packers don't hurt the poor baby.

It's up to the doctors, the staff and Fields to make the right decision.  You're right there's no chance for the playoffs but there are 5 more games for Fields to develop rapport with Kmet and Claypool and whoever else the Bears may keep at Wr next year.

I'd like to see what Fields can do if the Bears make him play QB and not let him run 18 times like he did against the Falcons.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on December 02, 2022, 02:09:17 pm
Expecting improvement and development with a 2 bit Oline is close to insane. And you KNOW it is
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on December 02, 2022, 02:38:02 pm

Fields and Getsy need to accommodate playing with a two-bit line.  Quick passes, safety valves, roll outs, double teams, and just throwing the ball away instead of taking a sack.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on December 02, 2022, 02:45:50 pm
And how is that going to stop defenders like the Pack have from chasing and hitting Fields's bum shoulder after he has thrown the ball out of bounds? And how is that going to improve him? Answer that.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 02, 2022, 02:57:29 pm
Well, I guess if having under 2 seconds to throw the ball I guess you could say they are working on speeding Field's processing and release up :D

But it sure won't be pretty.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on December 02, 2022, 03:05:43 pm
Dallas, this sums up my opinion, and this isnt ME saying it:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-overreactions-darnell-mooneys-injury-172000991.html

See I am not the only one who sees the light at the end of the tunnel.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on December 02, 2022, 03:48:11 pm
Bakhitiari out with appendectomy today.  Fields ready to start.  Simeon had oblique surgery and is out for the rest of the year.  Sigh. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on December 02, 2022, 04:13:56 pm
Like I suggested better warm up Peterman. They are going to need him
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on December 02, 2022, 04:14:38 pm
Dallas, this sums up my opinion, and this isnt ME saying it:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-overreactions-darnell-mooneys-injury-172000991.html

See I am not the only one who sees the light at the end of the tunnel.

Huh?

The best part of the article was this quote from a fan:

I just hope Justin can develop into a good passer because Trevor yesterday was making throws I know damn well Justin would be afraid to throw, hope we also load up the defense in the draft and pay lineman in F/A. Then maybe , just MAYBE we can be slightly competitive next year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on December 02, 2022, 04:19:54 pm
I just hope Justin can develop into a good passer

So do I, and as a Bear QB. I dont want to see them have to haul him off the field on a stretcher. I want him to survive to fight another day.....next year
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on December 02, 2022, 09:29:37 pm

 If this team doesn't stand up and fight for their fuuckin pride and protect one another AS A TEAM ... then Godddamn them all to hell.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on December 03, 2022, 11:43:07 am
No one wants to see Fields get hurt in a (semi) meaningless game. Fields is a football player, if he's cleared by the med staff, he should play. He needs the reps, hopefully throwing the football. What is Rodgers playing for? Playoff hopes are still alive my a$s... They're finished.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on December 04, 2022, 06:50:41 am
He just likes to be a priick.  I work with people like that, just like to be jerkoffs. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on December 04, 2022, 07:58:33 am
One thing for certain, Rodgers will make swiss cheese out of our crappy D...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 04, 2022, 10:12:30 am
As long as Fields does not get hurt (assuming he's playing of course). Too easy for this team to screw a good thing up.......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on December 04, 2022, 12:47:46 pm
San born was labeled as slow but he’s football fast.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on December 04, 2022, 01:08:10 pm
This sh!t of Santos missing extra points has got to stop...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on December 04, 2022, 01:28:40 pm
I would love to beat the pack, but dont mind if we lose either.  Kind of win win for me today.  I love Erin and his complaining to the refs about PI.  Diva isnt getting the calls so far.  In a perfect world I would like to see Sanborn hit Rogers and knock him out of the game, and we lose the game.  Best of all worlds.  lol
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on December 04, 2022, 01:49:22 pm
C’mon man how often does that WR screen actually work
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on December 04, 2022, 02:13:02 pm
If it was any other team, I’d be peeved about messing up our draft position.

**** the Pack, though…
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on December 04, 2022, 02:51:30 pm
This team has learned really well, how to lose games..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on December 04, 2022, 02:57:45 pm
Booo.  Oh well.  Let's get this season over with and get to the draft.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on December 04, 2022, 02:59:03 pm
This team has learned really well, how to lose games..

It has indeed
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on December 04, 2022, 02:59:26 pm
Well it was nice to see us craap down our leg at the end of the game.  Still clinging to that draft pick, so i dont mind too much.  I wish they would have sacked Rogers at least once.  We are in desperate need of DL, like all of them, including back ups.  That INT they said was on St Brown, but I think it was more on Fields.  Maybe Fields wants a better draft pick too.  We shall see.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on December 04, 2022, 03:23:36 pm
What about Santos. I'm starting to think he's betting money, against the Bears. Missing an extra point should be more than once every couple of seasons. Then to miss a 40 yarder..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on December 04, 2022, 03:26:04 pm
This team better show some serious progress next season. Otherwise, the pitchforks will come out. Everyone is sick of losing. They get a pass this season, they won't get much of one next year..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on December 04, 2022, 03:58:06 pm
I was pretty surprised the defense played as well as it did considering they started 4 journeymen rookies.
Rogers usually would tear that apart.

Dominique Robinson and Tavares Gipson have been very disappointing the last several weeks.  No pressure at all.

Good defensive coaching with such a weak lineup.

Offensively maybe Fields best game until the interceptions.  A lot of passing yards from the pocket.

The OL remains a mystery.  They blocked better in pass protection but failed too often on the conventional running plays.  Too many second and long situations.

Kmet continues to impress.

The receivers seem to be good for a play or two but there’s no consistent threat.

The coaches have the team in check, but Getsy isn’t fooling anyone with those WR screens.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on December 04, 2022, 04:40:44 pm
Fields can tear up man coverage with either his arm or his legs. 

He needs to learn how to defeat zone.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on December 04, 2022, 04:42:49 pm
What about Santos. I'm starting to think he's betting money, against the Bears. Missing an extra point should be more than once every couple of seasons. Then to miss a 40 yarder..

I have been thinking the same thing.  How can I guy who is so accurate normally keep missing extra points?

Also, on the missed field goal it didn't look like he kicked through the ball.  It almost looked like he held back.  It didn't look natural. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on December 04, 2022, 04:56:11 pm
Kickers have slumps.

Everyone complained about Gould when he slumped and he was let go to our regret

Probably no double doing if he was kicking.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on December 04, 2022, 06:07:44 pm

 Whew! That was close . If we had won we would have put G.B. close to contention for our current draft status.

 Fortunately my beloved Raiduhs look to be taking them out of contention of competing wif DAA BEARRSSE also.

 The game isn't over yet tho.  :o

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on December 04, 2022, 06:12:21 pm
I have been thinking the same thing.  How can I guy who is so accurate normally keep missing extra points?

Also, on the missed field goal it didn't look like he kicked through the ball.  It almost looked like he held back.  It didn't look natural. 

That kick looked screwed up, even Coach was mouthing "what just happened". They said it was partially blocked , but on repay it didn't look like it...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on December 04, 2022, 06:18:37 pm
Kickers have slumps.

Everyone complained about Gould when he slumped and he was let go to our regret

Probably no double doing if he was kicking.

Gould admitted that he didn't have his head in the game. He said it woke him up when the Bears cut him. He said he rededicated himself after that... To me, a slump means missing some field goals here and there, not missing extra points. We might be witnessing why he's been on 6 different teams...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on December 04, 2022, 07:09:38 pm
That kick looked screwed up, even Coach was mouthing "what just happened". They said it was partially blocked , but on repay it didn't look like it...

It was blocked.  If you look at the replay you can see the defender in the middle hand go backwards when the ball hit it.  Still, Santos said he didn’t hit it right and the kick was too low.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Dave23 on December 04, 2022, 07:26:37 pm
It looked to me like he was trying to keep his kicks lower than usual so that the wind wouldn’t push them too much.

Even the kicks he made were doing some funky ****.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on December 04, 2022, 07:34:40 pm
Even though Fields had those 2 picks.  He showed some improvement today.  Nice throws on a couple deep balls.  Escaping the pocket and finding open receivers.  Was careful on his scrambles and slid before getting tackled.  Also now seems to be finding Kmet more consistently when he was largely invisible at the beginning of the season.  If Kmet was on a better team he'd put up much better numbers.  Watch how many times he's pass blocking or chipping.

I don't understand all the short throws to Claypool.  Bears don't have the ability to run that WR screen which the Packers offense has mastered for years.

Packers end around goes for 48 and a TD - ours a 1 yard gain maybe. 

Defensively, the rookie DBs held their own for the most part.   But in the end the lack of pass rush was just too much to overcome.  D-line made a couple plays here and there but largely are man handled by the Packers O-line.    But hard for our DEs to get pressure when they faced the likes of Yosh Nijman and Zach Tom.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on December 04, 2022, 08:41:17 pm
Yeah would like to see them airing it out to Claypool with his ball skills rather than the others.

Surprised Fields had as much time in the pocket as he did. Can’t figure this OL out but I think a veteran center and maybe 3rd round RT would help.  Maybe resign Reif for the new tackle to get ready.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davep on December 04, 2022, 09:58:03 pm
Get the best OT available in the first round or in free agency, and then go after pass rushers a big DT to plug up the run.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Pekin on December 04, 2022, 10:04:59 pm
The needs are many.  OT blind side pass blocker.  Run stuffing DT.  Pass rushing DE.

We get zero pass rush and can't stop the run.  A deadly combination.

We need a big play WR and a WR who has good hands and runs great routes who knows how to get open consistently.  A chain mover.

With the draft capital and salary cap amount if he hits it out of the park it is doable.  But more likely they will take a big step up next year and either be on the verge of the play offs or make it and be sent home quickly.

Next year should see a lot more wins and a lot more fun.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on December 05, 2022, 03:58:58 am
I still expect the Bears to at least make the wild card next year.  Worsts to firsts happen almost every season and the Bears are the prime candidate for a dramatic turnaround.

I want Rodgers to drag his raggedy old ass on the field next year.  His career should end with a Bears sweep and maybe a Wootenesque exclamation point at the end...within the rules of course.

The Bears first draft pick should be Carter, Anderson, or an absolute and total fleecing of a trade down.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 05, 2022, 06:06:22 am
Justin Fields is a good QB. The best the Bears have had. But he is not clutch and has yet to prove he can be with the team as it is currently constructed.....

Poles wasted a high second round pick on a guy who they won't use the right way. Most of his other FA are shaky at best. At least he looks like he hit on UDFA Sanborn......

When the Bears were still up by 2 and they completed that pass into FG range, I said to myself- they are going to call plays and settle for a FG. It was "Game Over" and they promptly missed the kick and did lose. I had NO faith the D would keep the Packers from scoring.

My fear now that the Bears "brain trust" (and I use that term loosely) will now start to believe they can get away with the offense as it is and promptly over-correct the defense with draft and FA capital. BOTH need to be addressed greatly. The lack of talent is readily apparent on both sides of the ball in key positions. They do play hard, though, and imagine if they had a little more horsepower on both sides of the ball......

But so far the Flus legacy is for this team to play hard and lose. They are becoming the lovable losers. Its a bad trait that is becoming a habit (whether due to bad officiating, bad decisions, dipshit special team failures etc).....

The squandering of the Halas Legacy of wins belongs squarely in the fumbling hands of the McCaskey family.....




Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: VJ on December 05, 2022, 06:46:36 am
Looking ahead, the only game that the Bears could be "in danger" of winning is against the Minnesota C squad.  But the Bears could keep the rest of the games close in the first half and then Santos might continue being weird and the 2nd half gutless tank calls might be effect if surprisingly necessary...

The Bears were good enough and should have beaten the Packers, but this is that kind of season IMO.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: boogie on December 05, 2022, 07:40:26 am
I almost wonder if there is a wink nod agreement between Fields, Santos, Getsy and Flus, maybe Poles, that it is ok to NOT win games.  Kind of like lets not ruin our draft position in a meaningless season.  Santos misses and those two INTs by Fields, just didnt look right.  Just a theory.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on December 05, 2022, 12:59:11 pm

No conspiracy theory.  Bears looked good for most the game but eventually you just knew they would find a way to lose...especially to Rodgers.   
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on December 05, 2022, 03:01:48 pm
That’s the way the NFL and sports in general works
Lesser teams can hang but usually don’t win against better teams.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on December 05, 2022, 08:09:26 pm

 So anyway the way its going is ... is I am playing with half a team here and I know it.

 However the rest of the 2022 season turns out I don't give a fuuck unless only to see improvement for 2023.

 2023 frees me.

 Why ?

 Because we own the BANK in every fuuckin way shape and form in the NFL.

 Quekstion is : Do we know what to do with it ?

 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2022, 11:06:29 pm
JJ....misplaced enthusiasm bro. You and I been 'round this block a LONG time, man. We don't need someone to tell us the score, we've seen it for decades. This isn't a few meager years here, amiright? Bears went to the SB in 06' with a MUCH better team than we're gonna have next year or the year after. And they lost. We don't have a Ulracher, or a Briggs, or a Peanut or T.Jones' 1200+ yards or nothing even close to Mr D. Hester, or T. Harris or Alex Brown or Vasher ...how about a entire functioning OLINE, or even Grossmans 3200 farking yards passing! Grossman and his tiny clumsy hands still put up good numbers. But what do we have now.....money. Picks. Hope and dreams. And we know what the Bears are very VERY good at.....crushing 'hopes and dreams'. We've seen it, been around the block a time or ten. So I know it's 'hopes and dreams' time around here, again...but we know the score.... we definitely know the score....

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Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on December 06, 2022, 02:26:56 am
Are you kidding me....Bears, after the bye of which they play awful, meet up with the Eagles in Chicago? Can you say 55-10 blowout??  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 06, 2022, 07:25:11 am
McCaskets own this squandering of the Halas legacy. Until proven otherwise, they are a jinx on the team as a whole :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on December 06, 2022, 09:31:25 am

Well I guess you are all praying that Virgina McCaskey dies soon - because apparently she is controlling Angelo, Pace and Poles FA acquisitions and draft choices.

Let's at least give Poles a chance before we all start the woe is me crying schtick.  Next year he will have a set of pretty good draft choices (not great) and a wealth of FA money.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on December 06, 2022, 01:53:35 pm
Are you kidding me....Bears, after the bye of which they play awful, meet up with the Eagles in Chicago? Can you say 55-10 blowout??  ::) ::)
 

 What would be great is if we came out with an I don't care kamikaze attitude and just stuff a BEARSSEE couck up an eagles tailfeathers.

 It would let the NFL know that our season is done but we can fuuck over your frontrunners on the way to next year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 06, 2022, 04:11:21 pm
This is how I recall it. Maybe I'm wrong because I'm doing this off the top of my head, but here goes:

1. This team was coming off a dominant decade in the late 80s and then Mike McCaskey fired everyone who made that team after he won that NFL executive of the year award (da coach was kept around but he probably was past his due date :D).  All good things come to an end after all but Vainisi went to the Saints and made them competitive- showing he still had "it"....

2. Coincidentally, the real beginning of the end of the Bears dynasty was the Majkowski review game. It seemed they were jinxed especially hard after that. And with Favre coming online, the terrible 90's happened....

3. After wallowing in the Wanny era, they went with Dick Jauron (about the time the stadium was re-done into a UFO parked on the lakeside). Mike was sick (I think) and the Dave McGinnis fiasco occurred. Queue the circus music.....

Then the resurgence (Lovie Smith). No SB win, thanks to said head coach who refused to run the goddamn ball with T Jones and instead decided to join the Grossman "Unleash the dragon ! **** it ! Chuck it Deep" club.....

4. After the terribly embarrassing NFC championship game where they had to make just one play to go to the SB again. They failed.  (BTW there was an extended interview with Thomas Jones on the Tape Never Lies earlier this year. Lots of neat insider stuff from SB time. Lots of politics being played with players).

5. Since Mike was sick (think it was cancer ?) they appointed the glorified ticket manager George who orchestrated the Trestman "error" (or at least was complicit) in that wonderful decision with Bill Polian.

6. Since George was appointed, the Bears have been an afterthought in the NFL. Good for a few cheap laughs with the aging superfans and such, but otherwise, not a very successful (win-wise) franchise (business wise, that's another deal).....

Note: The 2000s were cool because they were talented (Urlacher, Peanut etc) but not winning that SB (and failing in that NFC Championship game) were brutal.

I think that's pretty much everything I can recall off the top of my head. Probably got some stuff wrong (age will do that to you). But most of the 2010's from 2012 onward felt like the late 70s to me. Without Walter.......

Here's hoping they can turn it around. They do seem jinxed though (maybe its tied in with the fact GB got TWO **** franchise QBS who played a long time in a row). Still, Rodgers should have more rings than he has, so there is that.....

I've been through the ups and downs (mid-70's to now) and for too long there have been too many downs. Its time for that to change. Please...........
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on December 06, 2022, 06:29:45 pm
 

 What would be great is if we came out with an I don't care kamikaze attitude and just stuff a BEARSSEE couck up an eagles tailfeathers.

 It would let the NFL know that our season is done but we can fuuck over your frontrunners on the way to next year.

Jackie he isnt talking of winning 55-10.........losing 55-10
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: chifaninva on December 06, 2022, 06:41:55 pm
B4Ev- You really need to emphasize the fact that D Wannstedt set this team back 15 years. Those were the real sh!t years... I had no idea how bad the team could get..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on December 06, 2022, 07:03:36 pm
Since Finks drafted McMahon just look at the succession of quarterbacks until Pace drafted Fields.

You’re not going to have a winning organization with what we’ve had.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Sportster on December 07, 2022, 12:20:40 am
Since you asked, here's the miserable list of QB's the last 30 years.....turn your eyes away if it makes you nauseous....  [ ] = # of starts that year....

1992   Jim Harbaugh (13) / Peter Tom Willis (2) / Will Furrer (1)   
1993   Jim Harbaugh (15) / Peter Tom Willis (1)   
1994   Steve Walsh (11) / Erik Kramer (5)   
1995   Erik Kramer (16)   
1996   Dave Krieg (12) / Erik Kramer (4)   
1997   Erik Kramer (13) / Rick Mirer (3)   
1998   Erik Kramer ( 8 ) / Steve Stenstrom (7) / Moses Moreno (1)   
1999   Shane Matthews (7) / Cade McNown (6) / Jim Miller (3)   
2000   Cade McNown (9) / Shane Matthews (5) / Jim Miller (2)   
2001   Jim Miller (13) / Shane Matthews (3)   
2002   Jim Miller ( 8 ) / Chris Chandler (7) / Henry Burris (1)   
2003   Kordell Stewart (7) / Chris Chandler (6)/ Rex Grossman (3)   
2004   Craig Krenzel (5) / Chad Hutchinson (5)/ Jonathan Quinn (3) / Rex Grossman (3)   
2005   Kyle Orton (15) / Rex Grossman (1)   
2006   Rex Grossman (16)   
2007   Rex Grossman (7) / Brian Griese (6) / Kyle Orton (3)   
2008   Kyle Orton (15) / Rex Grossman (1)   
2009   Jay Cutler (16)   
2010   Jay Cutler (15) / Todd Collins (1)   
2011   Jay Cutler (10) / Caleb Hanie (4) / Josh McCown (2)   
2012   Jay Cutler (15) / Jason Campbell (1)   
2013   Jay Cutler (11) / Josh McCown (5)   
2014   Jay Cutler (15) / Jimmy Clausen (1)   
2015   Jay Cutler (15) / Jimmy Clausen (1)   
2016   Matt Barkley (6) / Jay Cutler (5) / Brian Hoyer (5)   
2017   Mitchell Trubisky (12) / Mike Glennon (4)   
2018   Mitchell Trubisky (14) / Chase Daniel (2)   
2019   Mitchell Trubisky (15) / Chase Daniel (1)   
2020   Mitchell Trubisky (9) / Nick Foles (7)   
2021   Justin Fields (10) / Andy Dalton (6) / Nick Foles (1)   
2022   Justin Fields (12) / Trevor Siemian (1)

In sickening comparison....the Packers QB's during the same time period...   Majkowski, Favre, Rodgers, Huntley, Love, Flynn, Tolzien and....Wallace.


36 Bears QBs vs 8 with the vast majority of play time going to two players- Favre and Rodgers.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on December 07, 2022, 01:18:00 pm

Did anyone notice who was playing RT in the first half?  #72  Leatherwood.

By the time I noticed  Rieff was back in there.

Getsy unlike just about any other OC subs in young lineman to see what they can do.  Recall Jenkins and Patrick switching off.  I hope Leatherwood gets extended time next game.  He's struggled at RT in the past with the Raiders and they moved him inside. 

But they're not going to platoon Whitehair or Jenkins.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davebear on December 07, 2022, 02:26:36 pm
I saw a film review of Leatherwood’s 10 snaps.

He was a little slow out of his stance but blocked well.

The analyst felt he could be coached up.  We’ll see as he plays more.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: davep on December 07, 2022, 02:36:21 pm
I have been a Bears fan since Johnny Lujak was there .  In that time, the Bears have never had a quarterback with the all around talent of Fields, nor are they going to have one again in the lifetime of anyone currently on this board.

They are absolutely crazy if they allow him to play behind a terrible OLine.  That HAS to be their first priority this off season, either through the draft or more likely, through free agency.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: dallasbear on December 07, 2022, 05:22:16 pm

The O-line is not terrible.  The D-line is terrible.  The O-line just isn't very good. 

If the Bears think Jones can handle LT they just need to find a center and a RT.   Bears just don't have the money or the picks to do a whole scale replacement of the O-line.

Defensive line needs attention.  Maybe target a couple o-lineman in R3 and R4 (2 picks) and free agency.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 08, 2022, 04:29:28 am
To your point about Leatherwood, he obviously had the tools at Alabama, and became a 1st round choice.  About 6 months ago, there were many calling for the Bears to release Jenkins and that has worked out that we didn't.  Would love to see Leatherwood get some more snaps to see what we have, and maybe scratch RT off of the shopping list as well.  Borom comes back as swing tackle, in an ideal world.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on December 08, 2022, 04:44:04 pm

 Ok my beloved Raiduhs you gotta LOSE to the Rams at all costs to help out DAA BEARRSSE !
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 09, 2022, 04:25:24 am
Done!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 09, 2022, 06:11:27 am
And they did lose in the most Raiders way- stupid personal penalty and non-called penalties. WTF was Tillery doing ?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: WshflThinking on December 09, 2022, 06:54:07 am
Yippie
Title: Re: Today's Game 2022
Post by: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX on December 09, 2022, 03:58:52 pm

 A debt of gratitude is owed to Baker Mayfield by all BEARS fans ...

 and my beloved Raiduhs did not fail us also !

 It's good to see teams work together in harmony.