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Bleacher Bums Forum / Re: Cubs in ‘24
« Last post by Playtwo on December 02, 2024, 11:25:13 am »
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Bleacher Bums Forum / Re: Cubs in ‘24
« Last post by CUBluejays on December 02, 2024, 11:08:28 am »
The Yankees spiked a trade of Flaherty due to health concerns.

Are the Cubs signing another starter?  They have the 4 guys plus Assad and then the farm guys.  I could see pushing Assad to the pen and using him as swing guy.  I guess it depends on where the Cubs payroll is going to fall.  They are around $40 million left under the CBT threshold, that could go pretty quick depending on the bullpen investment and bench.
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Chicago Bears Forum / Re: Around the NFL
« Last post by Bears4Ever on December 02, 2024, 10:35:15 am »
So Allen for Buffalo has a rushing TD, passing TD and receiving TD (which he "threw" to himself) but no catches (because of the pitch back) in the same game. Wierd stuff indeed....
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Chicago Bears Forum / Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Last post by VJ on December 02, 2024, 10:33:52 am »
@thekapman
When the Bears interviewed Dan Quinn in 2022, they flew him to Chicago in coach. As a current NFL executive said to me today, 31 other teams either bring you in on the owners jet or they charter a plane. Chicago wouldn’t even pay for a first class ticket. And you expect them to spend at the top of the market for the best available coach? 🤣🤣
4:24 PM · Nov 29, 2024
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Bleacher Bums Forum / Re: Cubs in ‘24
« Last post by craig on December 02, 2024, 09:57:03 am »
You guys will hate this, but I actually have interest in Jack Flaherty.  And kinda think he's got some of the profile that Hoyer gravitates towards.  He's on the younger end, 29 for a FA isn't bad.  He's >10K/9 career, and K/BB is 3.2, both good profiles.  Career WHIP <1.2.  I think Hoyer has tended to gravitate toward high-HR/low-walk profile with starters, and that's Flaherty.  (1.4HR/9, that's bad.).   But yeah, a strike-throwing guy in his 20's would seem interesting.  I admit part of that view is probably victim-of-former-thought perspective.  Back in 2018-19, I thought he was going to become a big star.  Kinda went down after that. 

He might be a guy who remembers wrigley from contending era, so might perhaps have some good vibes for the Wrigley experience, and what winning in Chicago might feel like? 

Obviously he's not viewed in the same level as Snell/Burnes/Fried.  But probably even Flaherty is too good for Hoyer?  Being 29, and coming off a pretty good season, this is his shot to get a secure long-term contract.  So he's probably in a spot where a 2- or 3-year deal with Hoyer makes no sense.  So, probably outside Hoyer's "intelligent-spending" anti-length model. 

Buehler might be more likely to take the short-term prove-it deal that Hoyer might prefer? 

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Bleacher Bums Forum / Re: Cubs in ‘24
« Last post by craig on December 02, 2024, 09:45:06 am »
Hopefully Boyd will pitch well for us, and will look like a good-value clever signing.  Often works that way for teams that have success?  For Cubs, they don't tend to overflow with either smarts, success, or luck, not so much.  But if the Cubs win the division this season, it's easy to imagine Boyd being a solid pitcher who contributes to the division chase. 

Assuming lux-line is the budget, guessing there will be a second rotation pitcher before it's done.  I've kinda thought this from early on, *IF* they use lux-line budget and *IF* they don't chase a big-ticket, two starters would use the money.  (I know tico and deeg have said they expect budget cut-back, and deeg suggested Occam's Razor as the reasoning.  But I haven't really read anything to suggest they plan to drop significantly sub-lux.).

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Bleacher Bums Forum / Re: Cubs in ‘24
« Last post by craig on December 02, 2024, 09:15:51 am »
Speaks to the pitching market that a 34-year-old pitcher like Boyd with 4.85 career ERA, 1.6HR/9, and no >15 game season in the last 5 years, that he's still getting $29/2. 

Lots of competition for FA pitchers, that's for sure. 
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Bleacher Bums Forum / Re: Cubs in ‘24
« Last post by CUBluejays on December 02, 2024, 09:12:13 am »
I like the Boyd signing.  He at least can strike guys out.  He certainly has a pretty big risk profile.  I think I'd prefer Boyd to somebody like Eovoldi if we are playing in the shallower end of the free agent pool.

The Cubs playing in the shallow end is certainly more of a problem. 
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Bleacher Bums Forum / Re: Cubs in ‘24
« Last post by craig on December 02, 2024, 09:09:59 am »
Over his 908-inning big-league career, 168 starts, only 14 relief appearances.  10 relief appearances with Seattle in 2022, a several at start of career, but other than Seattle he's been a starter.  However, hasn't had a lots-of-starts-lots-of-innings season since 2019.  (185 innings, 32 starts). 

Will be interesting to see what Hawkins, Hoyer, Counsell say about projected opportunity.  Planned into rotation?  Or maybe a bit Smyly-like?  Might start, might relieve, we'll see how the competition shakes out and let performance guide the usage?  Has pretty good splits versus lefties, career-wise, so might perhaps end up being a useful bullpen guy?  $14.5/year suggests more than bullpen plan, though. 

Career-wise, 4.85 ERA, not impressive.  Primary vulnerability has been the HR-ball, so seems kinda like the profile that Hoyer gravitates towards, other than Stroman he's usually trended towards strike-throwing gopher guys.  1.6HR/9 over career.  That's with lots of his career innings pitched for Detroit, which is not HR-inflation stadium.  Perhaps a hope is that with Wrigley as a power-suppression park, that HR's won't kill? 

Looking at career profiles, of course, is of mixed value.  With all of the modern pitch optimization, I have no idea what his pitch-mix profile looks like today versus in earlier years. 
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Bleacher Bums Forum / Re: Cubs in ‘24
« Last post by Playtwo on December 02, 2024, 08:38:11 am »
I get the possible upside in Boyd.  But if his cost is used as a reason they can't go after more certain difference makers, I've had it with Hoyer.
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