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WshflThinking

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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2011, 06:33:47 am »
This board is dead and the draft is a week away

WshflThinking

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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2011, 07:07:47 am »
With first pick, Bears likely to deal

Dan Pompei
 
On the NFL
 
1:20 p.m. CDT, April 9, 2011

At the No. 29 spot in the first round of the NFL draft, it is appearing more and more likely the Bears' best option will not be picking a player to fill a position in need.

It is more likely their best option will be general manager Jerry Angelo going Monty Hall and working all angles to make a deal.

It's always very difficult to project who will be available at the bottom of the first round, but with less than three weeks until the draft, the possibilities are becoming clearer. And it's looking more and more like the Bears will be in no man's land if they stay put.

Many Bears fans are praying the team can find an answer at left tackle with its first pick. It remains a possibility, but it appears more likely that every left tackle prospect worth a first-round pick will be gone by the time the Bears are on the clock.

The good news is there are five potential first-round tackles, so one could slide. The tackles most likely will fall in this order, based on a survey of NFL scouts: Tyron Smith, Nate Solder, Anthony Castonzo Gabe Carimi and Derrick Sherrod.

If Carimi slips, it's because some teams are concerned about his cockiness. Sherrod could fall a bit because he's a love-or-hate-him prospect. But more love him than hate him.

If all five are gone, the Bears would have to reach for a tackle at 29, and that would not be prudent.

As for interior lineman, guard/center Mike Pouncey is expected to be long gone at 29. If the Bears are stuck at that spot, Danny Watkins of Baylor might not be a bad concession. A former firefighter from Canada who is 26, Watkins has climbed up draft boards because he is considered a safe pick. He is known for his strength, character and toughness.

The Bears could use a pass-rushing defensive tackle, but their options probably won't be very enticing at the end of the first round. Corey Liuget from Illinois should be chosen in the teens. Phil Taylor and Muhammad Wilkerson are not really the style of tackle the Bears are looking for.

They could reach for someone like Marvin Austin, Drake Nevis or Terrell McClain but should have better options elsewhere.

The Bears also need a defensive end, and the 2011 crop is good. But seven of them are expected to be off the board before the Bears' turn. Cameron Heyward, who is a better fit for a 3-4 defense, Brooks Reed and Justin Houston likely will be left. The latter two could fit in Rod Marinelli's scheme but would be better values later.

As for linebackers and wide receivers, the Bears likely would have to reach to take one at the end of the first round. There are some solid second-round prospects at both positions, but none of them has late first-round value.

Which brings us to a trade. Personnel director Tim Ruskell has acknowledged that it could be worth considering moving up. And the Bears might have to move up to get an immediate impact player.

But the price might be prohibitive, unless one of their targeted players slides and they merely need to move up a few spots.

Understand this about the Bears. As a result of trades and misses, they have one player on their roster from the first three rounds of the last two drafts safety Major Wright. This is a team that is badly in need of an infusion of multiple young players. For their long-term health, the Bears need numbers of solid players more than they need one difference maker.

So barring something unusual, a trade up probably is not in the Bears' best interests. A trade down, on the other hand, could be exactly what the draft doctor ordered.

It seems certain there will be buyers in the market for a late-round pick. Among the teams that could be interested in moving up, perhaps for a quarterback, are the Bills, Bengals, Browns, Cardinals, Titans, Redskins, Vikings, 49ers, Raiders, Jaguars and Seahawks.

It also seems certain there will be other sellers in the market, however. That the Patriots will be willing to move down is almost a given. Others, including the Ravens, likely will be all ears as well.

So the Bears might not make a killing by moving down. But they likely will be best served by taking what they can get.

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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2011, 07:31:45 am »
We're not the only ones.  I think the draft talk is quiet because the FA period is quiet.  Usually you have a lot of buzz during the FA period and then whatever needs you don't fill, you have the draft.  Right now, no FA, no draft buzz...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/16/schedule-is-coming-soon-but-no-one-seems-to-care/


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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2011, 01:58:44 pm »
OK I understand that talk but that doesnt mean that now GMs have no interest in improving the talent on their teams, or that they will all just pass on the draft this year because the fans dont have any interest.

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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2011, 04:08:13 pm »
As far as Bears in trouble, Bobby Douglass got arrested. I think he threw something at his wife. Missed of course.

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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2011, 04:10:31 pm »
LOL!

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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2011, 04:30:41 pm »
As far as Bears in trouble, Bobby Douglass got arrested. I think he threw something at his wife. Missed of course.

Good thing he missed....he might have killed her!   ;)

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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2011, 05:12:34 pm »
Maybe we can draft him

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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2011, 05:20:55 pm »
I am reading the Bears are looking to trade down.  Unless someone they like drops and then they may trade up a few places to get them.

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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2011, 08:43:28 pm »
I hadnt heard that. WOW!

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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2011, 09:22:28 pm »
LOL!  Sorry didn't realize I read it here.  I even went looking for the article then found it here.  haha.

I am a dumb ass.

Doh! 

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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2011, 12:51:24 am »

 One thing we learned during the draft is that nobody has any idea what angelo is thinking.

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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2011, 05:35:28 am »
Thats true

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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2011, 08:32:30 am »
I guess I'm not getting all the recent love for Danny Watkins.

OK, he's an ex-firefighter and hockey player so yeah, the intangibles are there.  But he's also 26 and green as grass with something like only 3 or 4 seasons of organized football under his belt. So basically you're looking at a guy who won't be NFL-ready till he's had a couple of years of NFL coaching, which means he starts contributing at 28, which means an NFL shelf life of 3-4 years.

And for this he's worth a 1st round pick?  Maybe someone who's seen the guy play a lot can enlighten me but I'm not seeing how this guy can be the top-rated OG in the draft as some have him currently rated.

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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2011, 09:00:59 am »
Isnt Watkins super strong?  Something like 44+ reps at the combine or was that someone else?  I like the firefighter/hockey player combo, too bad about this age...