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mO

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2012 Draft
« on: September 29, 2011, 10:18:04 am »
With the number 6? pick...

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JR

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Re: 2012 Draft
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2011, 10:37:42 am »
Just hopefully Tim Wilken stays far away from the NCAA Division II baseball tournament next year.

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Re: 2012 Draft
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2011, 08:23:53 am »
It's going to be a weaker draft compared to last year, Boston didn't show much of a tendency to draft one way or the other when it came HS/College. At this point, I'm hoping for (in order) Buxton, Zunino, or Gausman.

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Re: 2012 Draft
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2012, 01:48:19 pm »
Potential Top Draft Pick Giolito Sprains Elbow

By Tim Dierkes [March 7 at 1:18pm CST]

Highly-regarded high school righty Lucas Giolito sprained the ulnar collateral ligament in his elbow yesterday and will be out six to ten weeks, reports Eric Sondheimer of the L.A. Times.  The hard-throwing senior doesn't need surgery, coach Matt LaCour told Sondheimer, but he and his teammates are crushed.  Giolito was regarded as the best high school player in the 2012 draft, but now he may be more likely to honor a commitment to UCLA.  As Baseball America notes, the new collective bargaining agreement's draft restrictions make it much harder for Giolito to fall in draft position and still receive a ton of money.

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Re: 2012 Draft
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2012, 01:54:41 pm »
As Baseball America notes, the new collective bargaining agreement's draft restrictions make it much harder for Giolito to fall in draft position and still receive a ton of money.

Unless some team decides to bite the bullet and pay the penalty anyway, and goes ahead and drafts him in the later rounds, as well as taking several other high ceiling prospects who were not picked because of concerns they would put the team over the ceiling.  If a team went ahead and completely ignore the ceiling and paid the penalty by not just barely going over the limit, but by completely bowing thru it, the reward might well be worth the penalty.

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Re: 2012 Draft
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 12:25:43 pm »
According to John Arguello's "Cubs Den" blog, Hoyer scouted Prior-esque (at least in his physique) USF righty Kyle Zimmer:

http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2012/03/draft-preview-cubs-scouting-rhp-kyle-zimmer/

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Re: 2012 Draft
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2012, 02:06:31 pm »
According to John Arguello's "Cubs Den" blog, Hoyer scouted Prior-esque (at least in his physique) USF righty Kyle Zimmer:

http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2012/03/draft-preview-cubs-scouting-rhp-kyle-zimmer/

OK, I watched a couple YouTube videos of Zimmer just now and I don't love his mechanics.  He doesn't seem to have the recoil that Mark Prior and Mike Harkey had (and that's a good thing) but he does seem to throw across his body a tad (and that's a bad thing).

It looks like he's got the dreaded "M" (I'm trying to start a trend that phases out "inverted W" because that sounds dumb to me) that a lot of people believe eventually leads to shoulder surgery.

Finally, he pats the ball in his glove a la Geremi Gonzalez, which doesn't mean anything, really.  It's probably a timing thing he's developed along the way.

Obviously, throwing across his body could be an easy fix, if he's coachable.  The "M" could be a problem, if you subscribe to that theory.

He's certainly a big kid who seems to have good stuff.

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Re: 2012 Draft
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2012, 11:48:13 am »
The Chicago Cubs Have Been Terrible at Drafting

By Brett on March 14, 2012

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If you’ve paid even a modest level of attention to the MLB Draft over the past decade, that headline is not altogether shocking to you. But, for the most part, it was just a feeling and a trash can on the receiving end of your boot.

Now, thanks to a study by FanGraphs, we can put some ugly, ugly numbers on just how terrible the Cubs have been at the Draft.

Here’s a chart of the accumulated WAR of homegrown players drafted in the last decade for each team (i.e., the total WAR that the draftees contributed to the team that drafted them), together with the average WAR per homegrown player (to account for outliers):



The rest of the article:

http://www.bleachernation.com/2012/03/14/the-chicago-cubs-have-been-terrible-at-drafting/

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Re: 2012 Draft
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2012, 11:50:34 am »
We needed a chart to know that?

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Re: 2012 Draft
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2012, 01:58:18 pm »
sox were worse?

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Re: 2012 Draft
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2012, 02:01:54 pm »
sox were worse?
And the Cardinals were 23rd?

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Re: 2012 Draft
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2012, 02:12:03 pm »
If you extend the cutoff for that draft article by one year (2001 draft), it really changes the story for the Cubs.  That was the year Prior (15.8 WAR), Soto (11.7 WAR), and Theriot (9 WAR) were all drafted.  That would triple their score and put them somewhere in the middle of the pack.

They wouldn't get credit for them since they were traded, but Ricky Nolasco (15.4 WAR), Sergio Mitre (3.1 WAR), and Brendan Harris (2.5 WAR) were also drafted that year.  The 2001 draft was really good for the Cubs.

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Re: 2012 Draft
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2012, 10:45:35 pm »
If you extend the cutoff for that draft article by one year (2001 draft), it really changes the story for the Cubs.  That was the year Prior (15.8 WAR), Soto (11.7 WAR), and Theriot (9 WAR) were all drafted.  That would triple their score and put them somewhere in the middle of the pack.

They wouldn't get credit for them since they were traded, but Ricky Nolasco (15.4 WAR), Sergio Mitre (3.1 WAR), and Brendan Harris (2.5 WAR) were also drafted that year.  The 2001 draft was really good for the Cubs.

So good that they apparently quit trying immediately afterwards.

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Re: 2012 Draft
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2012, 11:52:08 am »
Condolences to the family of Stephen Gant...horrible, horrible tragedy...

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Re: 2012 Draft
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2012, 12:22:36 pm »
Wow.  That is very sad.  Speculation as to what took him to the edge, Dave?