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Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« on: April 12, 2011, 10:33:38 am »
What's going on around the league?

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Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 03:48:21 pm »
I'll check

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Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2011, 12:16:35 am »

 I heard there may be a lockout.

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Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2011, 01:05:23 pm »
I think you're right, there is a lockout but players keep getting arrested.

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Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2011, 01:20:35 pm »
Players Lockout WC lockout, Cooincidence???

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Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2011, 11:24:56 am »
Check out the failure rate for frist round QB draftees:

Posted by Mike Florio on April 16, 2011, 10:24 AM EDT
 Greg Cosell’s observation that teams with needs at quarterback could reach for quarterbacks in round one of the draft has caused us to wonder whether the raw number of quarterbacks taken in round one could eclipse the all-time record for first-round quarterbacks.

The high-water mark came in 1983, when six quarterbacks became first-round picks:  John Elway, Todd Blackledge, Jim Kelly, Tony Eason, Ken O’Brien, and Dan Marino (pictured).

In 28 years since then, only one class had as many as five.  In 1999, Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper, and Cade McNown exited the board in round one.  All five were picked in the first 12 selections, with the next quarterback — Shaun King — drafted 38 spots later.

Four quarterbacks were drafted in the first round of three other drafts.  In 1987, Vinny Testaverde, Kelly Stouffer, Chris Miller, and Jim Harbaugh were picked in the first round.  In 2003, it was Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, and Rex Grossman.  Most recently, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, and J.P. Losman entered the league via round one in 2004.

In 2011, the number of prospects coupled with the teams that have needs at the position could result in up to seven first-round quarterbacks being taken.  Cam Newton and Blaine Gabbert are regarded as sure-fire top-ten picks.  Thereafter, one or more of the next five quarterbacks could be picked in round one:  Jake Locker, Ryan Mallett, Christian Ponder, Andy Dalton, and Colin Kaepernick.


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Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2011, 01:31:10 am »

 This draft looks to be super heavy in defense...be that as it may it could work out best for us.

 The only one we need is a DT and after that go OL.

 However the OL draftees are so slim that we dont get any quality if the top tier guys are gone by the 29th pick.

 This could be another angelo gee that guy looks too sweet to pass on in defense and we better get him because any good OL are already gone type of thing.

 Of course angelo could always trade up to protect Cutler...

 OR...angelo goes OL with the first  if somthing falls to us.

 But we know angelo...given a DT or OL with the 29th...

 where would he go?

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Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2011, 08:46:32 pm »
DL, clearly

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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2011, 08:50:36 pm »
I remember last draft and we were hoping for an OT and Angelo said he had his eye on a OT. That OT turned into 7th round draft Webb. Thats how much Angelo values OLmen

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Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2011, 12:59:07 am »

 Yeah thats what scares me Wsh, with it being defense heavy in this draft, angelo will tag along and get somthing in the first that he could have gotten in the second.

 Passing on OL in the first.

 If there is a class A stud DT at 29 then take him...

 but also if there is a class A stud at OL then take him first.

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Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2011, 05:43:36 am »
I think the worthy OTs will be gone by #29 as that article stated and if there was one left he would have warts as Pompei explained. Furthermore Angelo hasnt had any success drafting DTs in the third round. So he has done plenty of hitting and missing as far as OTs and DTs go. His track record doesnt inspire confidence.

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Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2011, 06:05:11 pm »
Check out the failure rate for frist round QB draftees:

Posted by Mike Florio on April 16, 2011, 10:24 AM EDT
 Greg Cosell’s observation that teams with needs at quarterback could reach for quarterbacks in round one of the draft has caused us to wonder whether the raw number of quarterbacks taken in round one could eclipse the all-time record for first-round quarterbacks.

The high-water mark came in 1983, when six quarterbacks became first-round picks:  John Elway, Todd Blackledge, Jim Kelly, Tony Eason, Ken O’Brien, and Dan Marino (pictured).

In 28 years since then, only one class had as many as five.  In 1999, Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper, and Cade McNown exited the board in round one.  All five were picked in the first 12 selections, with the next quarterback — Shaun King — drafted 38 spots later.

Four quarterbacks were drafted in the first round of three other drafts.  In 1987, Vinny Testaverde, Kelly Stouffer, Chris Miller, and Jim Harbaugh were picked in the first round.  In 2003, it was Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, and Rex Grossman.  Most recently, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, and J.P. Losman entered the league via round one in 2004.


Man... you look at that list post the Marino/Kelly class and out of all those names and years you've really got about 5 guys that made their teams significantly better for a long period of time (Big Ben, McNabb, Rivers, Carson Palmer and Eli Manning if you're being generous). And out of all those names exactly two have won SuperBowls (Big Ben and Manning).

This is why I've always been super skeptical about taking QBs in the 1st round or at least the Top 10.  The risk/reward is just so heavily skewed toward failure.

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Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2011, 10:41:30 pm »
Bears may dodge a bullet on the Tampa game scheduled in London:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/18/london-game-will-be-moved-to-tampa-if-lockout-doesnt-end-by-august-1/

 Well lets see what happens.

 Glazers have an interest in being in England...partial owners of Manchester United.

 BEARS may be just along for the ride to promote NFL football...and yacht buddies.

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Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2011, 12:33:46 am »
I really hope they play that game in Tampa. I already have been there in that stadium. Would love to go watch the Bears play there