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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10200 on: December 04, 2012, 05:02:28 pm »
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"We brought him up last season hoping he was going to do well but knowing we get to see him first-hand, where a week ago, he went out to Arizona, we were able to fix the things and be hands on,” Sveum said. “I think he’ll tell you it was a huge learning experience. Things obviously didn’t go well but he knows now that sometimes you have to hit that wall to know, ‘wow, I really have to make some huge adjustments to play at this level.’”


Interesting.  It's kind of a run-on sentence, but it almost reads as if sveum is saying that a week ago Jackson went to Arizona and in one week of hands-on coaching, Sveum fixed him?  That would be one of the most amazing and instant "fixes" in history.   My guess is that I'm misreading that or it wasn't quite what Sveum really meant.  I assume he meant that some of the fixing had already been set in motion earlier, perhaps both during the season and in fall; and that last week Sveum had a chance to see him.  Probably some of the huge adjustments had already been well along, and last week was Sveum's chance to see them; plus last week was Sveum's chance to add some more hands-on fixing. 


I find several levels of this interesting:
1.  The optimism that Jackson really can change, for the better. 
2.  The general idea that any hitter, after this many years in, can be changed dramatically. 
3.  The extraordinary self-confidence that Sveum has as a teacher/coach/analyst.  A lot of managers want to manage, and are happy to let scouts scout/analyze and minor-league coaches teach.  But Sveum had Hoyer call up Jackson because he wanted Jackson himself, to watch, to coach, and to correct.  That's a lot of confidence.  I like it.  I like that a lot. 
4.  I really like the general confidence that the Cubs seem to have that they can teach and fix young players.   It would be really neat to see that starting to happen, frequently and dramatically.   

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10201 on: December 04, 2012, 05:14:38 pm »
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“...a week ago, he went out to Arizona, we were able to fix the things and be hands on,” Sveum said.   "I think he’ll tell you it was a huge learning experience. Things obviously didn’t go well but he knows now that sometimes you have to hit that wall to know, ‘wow, I really have to make some huge adjustments to play at this level.’”


I think Sveum should call up Baez really early next year, and have him fail enough to become ready for some huge adjustments, then spend a week hands-on and fix him, too. 


I think baez needs to learn the art of hitting as well as Jackson. 

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10202 on: December 04, 2012, 05:29:47 pm »
I am speculating of course, but I read Sveum's statements to suggest that (1) during Jackson's time with the Cubs, Sveum (and Rowson perhaps) identified specific mechanical issues with Jackson's approach at the plate, (2) Jackson's experience with the Cubs convinced him he needed to make significant changes, (3) during the week in Arizona they worked with Jackson on the specific changes he needed to make, (4) Jackson understood, embraced and began to execute the changes, and (5) Jackson will continue to work on lots of repetitions of the new approach over the rest of the winter.

I don't know what the changes were, but I'm guessing one had to do with correcting his habit of bringing his back elbow up over his shoulder as he started his swing.  I'm sure there were other things (keeping his hands lower, perhaps) whether the elbow issue was addressed or not.  Mechanical things are much easier to correct than more intangible recognition of pitches or plate discipline. Jackson is both a smart and committed guy so I don't doubt he's capable of making mechanical adjustments. It will just take lots of reps to develop new muscle memory that wipes out the old muscle memory.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10203 on: December 04, 2012, 05:40:43 pm »
Interesting that Cubs brass is talking about acquiring a corner OFer rather than a CFer.  Of course they know that DeJesus in CF is not a great option defensively but perhaps they are so encouraged about B. Jackson's off-season work that they are keeping all CF options open.  If Jackson looks really good at Iowa, he could be back up in short order.  Wow, that would be a huge development if he can hit.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10204 on: December 04, 2012, 05:45:02 pm »
I love Brandon McCarthy - tremendous makeup and OK stuff - but he has extremely, gravely serious shoulder concerns that would have to be seriously reflected in any contract.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10205 on: December 04, 2012, 05:59:51 pm »
Mark Reynolds now enters the picture.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10206 on: December 04, 2012, 06:24:07 pm »
Hell, Casey McGehee needs work...let's invite him to camp...

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10207 on: December 04, 2012, 06:39:49 pm »
Reynolds just isn't a third baseman anymore.  He can probably play there if he has to, but he's not a guy you sign specifically to play at third base every day.

I wonder if Kelly Johnson could play third base.  He's a free agent, and no one is after him right now.  He's likely to hit as well as pretty much anyone else available to play the position, and would cost less.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10208 on: December 04, 2012, 06:53:54 pm »
Even if Jackson is making good progress, if the market is soft enough for Choo, I think you have to pursue him.

If Jackson really is righting the ship, Choo gives him time to cement the adjustments being made. When Jackson is called up, Choo shifts to RF. If Jackson does not figure it out, Choo is not a bad guy to have on your team. Either way, he is a no brainer qualifying offer kind of guy at the end of the season.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10209 on: December 04, 2012, 07:11:06 pm »
Choo has played CF once since 2007 so he's strictly a corner guy.  Outstanding RF arm too.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10210 on: December 04, 2012, 07:34:09 pm »
The Cubs don't have many strengths going into next year, but one of the few they have the potential to have is a well above average defense.  If we signed a plus defensive 3B and a plus defensive CF, we would have a pretty excellent defense.

I guess that's what surprises me the most about this talk about moving DeJesus to CF or perhaps signing Mark Reynolds for 3B.  Seems like either of those moves ruins a potential strength for the team.
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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10211 on: December 04, 2012, 07:43:17 pm »
Choo probably has more speed than DeJesus at this point in time. While neither of them profile as top notch defensive CF's, my guess is that Choo would the be better of the two.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10212 on: December 04, 2012, 07:45:38 pm »
Yount reportedly pulls a Cheney and shoots Sveum while the two were out hunting. It's nothing serious.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10213 on: December 04, 2012, 07:49:16 pm »
First they sign a guy named "Deer" and now a hunting accident.

Coincidence?

I think not.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #10214 on: December 04, 2012, 08:14:15 pm »
Could Brett Jackson open the season as the Cubs' CF after all?

No.

I don't think there is any chance of that.

Hoyer will look at his experience with Rizzo, and the fact that there is no pressure to win early in the season and comfortably start Jackson in Iowa, even if Jackson has one of the best springs in memory.