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JeffH

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2011, 10:09:06 pm »
What model does Ricketts expect to follow with Colletti?

StrikeZone

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2011, 10:39:11 pm »
What model does Ricketts expect to follow with Colletti?

The Ford Edsel?

brjones

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2011, 01:25:40 pm »
This sounds like tampering, so it probably didn't really happen.  But just FWIW, Ozzie has apparently reached out to Zambrano:

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/02/ozzie-guillen-has-reached-out-to-big-z-about-joining-marlins/

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2011, 01:40:16 pm »
Tamper away!

StrikeZone

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2011, 02:01:25 pm »
If Ozzie did that, it's a pretty clear case of tampering and his punishment should be taking Carlos Zambrano's contract.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2011, 02:03:27 pm »
and Soriano's.

And Silva's if we can get him back.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2011, 09:47:15 am »
Quote from: MLB Trade Rumors
Arbitration Eligibles: Chicago Cubs

 
By Tim Dierkes [October 4, 2011 at 7:55am CST]

 
The Cubs are next in our arbitration eligibles series.

 
 
  • First time: Randy Wells, Blake DeWitt
  • Second time: Geovany Soto
  • Third time: Matt Garza, Jeff Baker, Koyie Hill

 
Hill is the most likely non-tender in this group.  However, he'd only get a mild raise to $850K, and it's quite possible the Cubs keep him around due to defense, familiarity with the pitching staff, and other intangibles.

 
Wells ($2.2MM), Soto ($4MM), and Baker ($1.4MM) had disappointing seasons, but should be part of the 2012 club.  DeWitt showed enough promise to be worth $1.2MM.  Garza represents the Cubs' headline arbitration case, and we project $8.7MM for him.  Jeremy Guthrie and John Danks will be current comparables for Garza.  There is not much recent precedent for a pitcher with this type of track record to make it to his third arbitration year.

 
If the Cubs retain all six of their arbitration eligibles, we project $18.4MM in total salary.  Assuming Ryan Dempster exercises his player option and Aramis Ramirez doesn't get a new contract prior to his option decision, the Cubs have around $91MM in 2012 commitments before accounting for minimum salary players.  If payroll remains in the $134MM range, the Cubs would have around $40MM to spend in 2012 salaries.
 

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2011, 09:57:39 am »
Hill is the most likely non-tender in this group.  However, he'd only get a mild raise to $850K, and it's quite possible the Cubs keep him around due to defense, familiarity with the pitching staff, and other intangibles.

Defense...right...

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2011, 09:59:25 am »
That's the equivalent of saying we keep Otto around for intelligence...

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2011, 12:36:26 pm »
Hill is the most likely non-tender in this group.  However, he'd only get a mild raise to $850K, and it's quite possible the Cubs keep him around due to defense, familiarity with the pitching staff, and other intangibles.

Defense...right...
Q. What do Starlin Castro, Matt Garza, and Geovanny Soto have in common?

A.  They each led all of MLB in errors at their position.

Koyie Hill would have been right up there with Geo had he played more games.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2011, 12:45:11 pm »
Now Cactus,  If Koye had played more games then Geo would have played less and Geo wouldn't have had as many errors.  I just wanted to point that out before another poster had to go thru a mega post berating and correcting you.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2011, 01:38:54 pm »
Now Cactus,  If Koye had played more games then Geo would have played less and Geo wouldn't have had as many errors.  I just wanted to point that out before another poster had to go thru a mega post berating and correcting you.
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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2011, 03:20:21 pm »
Hill is the most likely non-tender in this group.  However, he'd only get a mild raise to $850K, and it's quite possible the Cubs keep him around due to defense, familiarity with the pitching staff, and other intangibles.

Defense...right...
That's the equivalent of saying we keep Otto around for intelligence...

I was going to say that it was like keeping Jes around because of his agreeable disposition.

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2011, 03:37:32 pm »
Yeah...I was gonna go there, but I had already done one, so I left it for someone else...

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Re: Cubs in '12
« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2011, 04:02:43 pm »
If the Yankees lose today, and go into the offseason with the knowledge that they pitched AJ Burnett in an elimination game and lost...is there any chance that Girardi's job is in jeopardy?