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Cubs in '15 (8/3 - 12/1)
« on: August 03, 2015, 09:25:08 am »
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Re: Cubs in '15 (8/3 - 12/1)
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2015, 12:01:50 pm »
Any word on Bryant's condition?  Seems to me this would be a good time to call up Baez.  Baez can help give all the other rookies a rest while they climb that rookie wall and spell Castro a bit too.

Or maybe they expect Coghlan to be able to do that with Schwarber playing left and Montero back?

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Re: Cubs in '15 (8/3 - 12/1)
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2015, 12:12:29 pm »
Bryant is getting rechecked at some point today.  Baez might not be up for a few weeks at the earliest, so I would guess Olt/Vilaneuva if Bryant goes on the 7 day concussion list.

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Re: Cubs in '15 (8/3 - 12/1)
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2015, 12:27:07 pm »
I hope (at worst) it will be sufficient to rest Bryant for a game or two.  They need his bat in the lineup as much as possible.

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Re: Cubs in '15 (8/3 - 12/1)
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2015, 02:20:46 pm »
Bryant is in the starting lineup tonight.

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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2015, 02:56:55 pm »
On today's Olney podcast, Olney said he'd bet the family farm that Sonny Gray is traded this off-season and "watch the Cubs" as club who might acquire him---Derek Johnson/Vandy connection, past Theo/Beane trades, etc.

Gray is controlled for another FOUR seasons after 2015, so Cubs interest would seem clear, along with Carrasco, Ross, etc. type guys. Just think trade along these lines more likely than big ticket FA pitcher already at age 30 for monster bucks.

Hope for huge Baez showing final 1/3 of season as trade bait. Yeah, big -time potential but, at 30% K rate at Iowa, best case scenario is 180 Ks per season guy in majors. Guessing Theo/Hoyer wary of adding another huge-K guy to current Cubs-K-leading-NL-by-wide-margin lineup. Also, Baez main value is as SS and Russell is our guy there going forward.

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Re: Cubs in '15 (8/3 - 12/1)
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2015, 03:02:35 pm »
Gray and Price are very close.

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Re: Cubs in '15 (8/3 - 12/1)
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2015, 03:07:14 pm »
Gray and Price are very close.

Get 'em both...

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Re: Cubs in '15 (8/3 - 12/1)
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2015, 03:20:21 pm »
Before his injury Baez was under 25%/PA at Iowa.  Since he came back it has spiked back up, but that is likely more of a timing issue from being off for 6 weeks.  I can't even imagine the price on Gray.  The better question might be who would be less expensive to acquire in trade him or Sale. 

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Re: Cubs in '15 (8/3 - 12/1)
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2015, 03:20:59 pm »
I wonder if the Cubs might be in a position to trade Hammel in the offseason.  He probably would at least being back one or two interesting prospects that could help enhance a package for a guy like Gray.  Plus, it would free up a little money. 

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Re: Cubs in '15 (8/3 - 12/1)
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2015, 03:37:24 pm »
Honestly I think it would be something Hendricks, Baez, Torres to get him.

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Re: Cubs in '15 (8/3 - 12/1)
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2015, 03:39:02 pm »
Sign me up then.

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Re: Cubs in '15 (8/3 - 12/1)
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2015, 03:45:57 pm »
That might not be enough either.

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Re: Cubs in '15 (8/3 - 12/1)
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2015, 04:00:47 pm »
You don't need near that if Smurf is trading him.    (JK Smurf)

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Re: Cubs in '15 (8/3 - 12/1)
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2015, 04:02:37 pm »
Honestly I think it would be something Hendricks, Baez, Torres to get him.

Don't think would have to give up Torres. A's already have a phenom teenage SS--Franklin Barreto in Class A and they wouldn't push too hard asking Cubs to give up TWO shortstops. Smart GMs understand how much to push if really want to deal.

As to Baez, he would have to look really good final two months of season to be a centerpiece, which I expect. As to his Ks, keep in mind that his BR 162-game K pace with Cubs last season was 296!! So, to project him at 180--a 100+ K reduction, is giving him every benefit of the doubt. Think he is a near-lock to be there, optimistically.

Don't think Hendricks either. Just creates another hole in Cubs rotation and doubt Beane all that keen about a #4 type guy moving to DH AL. Theo talks about reverse AL to NL frequently and you can be sure Beane thinks same, especially for Hendricks-type. Don't think his inclusion works that well for either club.

Think a rising-in-stature Baez, McKinney back-to-A's, Underwood. Alternatively, move Pierre Johnson up to AAA today and if he's really good for those 5-6 starts--on top of his recent excellent work at AA--he becomes a factor. Maybe that-Johnson and a 4th guy. Lot can happen in remainder of season that impacts trade value. If Baez plays poorly rest of season, whole thing probably unrealistic.
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