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« Reply #3630 on: August 20, 2018, 11:11:31 am »
If Yu is unable to pitch again until 2020, would the Cubs have to eat the entire cost of his salary?

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« Reply #3631 on: August 20, 2018, 11:12:53 am »
Depends on the insurance policy.

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« Reply #3632 on: August 20, 2018, 11:19:17 am »
An insurance policy on a pitcher with a TJS would be really expensive.  The bigger question for me is if the Cubs have an insurance policy does his full salary count towards the CBT.
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« Reply #3633 on: August 20, 2018, 11:23:16 am »
Can't they just inject some stem cells and he'll be good as new?

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« Reply #3634 on: August 20, 2018, 11:27:26 am »
Stem cells injections haven't been proven to be effective, but I'd certainly try that before another TJS surgery.  *Not speaking as any sort of authority, just going off of the numbers of what a second TJS means, recovery time etc........

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« Reply #3635 on: August 20, 2018, 11:31:06 am »
The real important thing is to remember that Deeg is totally responsible for all of this.

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« Reply #3636 on: August 20, 2018, 11:31:55 am »
I was an Arrieta guy myself.

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« Reply #3637 on: August 20, 2018, 11:45:58 am »
Plenty of concerning things about Arrieta too.  Put me in the Cubs need to draft pitchers that throw hard and hope some of the work out.  Mass drafting of guys with ok fastballs isn't working.
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« Reply #3638 on: August 20, 2018, 12:10:13 pm »
I suspect if Theo had it to do over again he would take Jake.

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« Reply #3639 on: August 20, 2018, 12:18:48 pm »
If he had it to do over again, he'd have gotten some of the Cardinals scouts input and signed Mikolas, that guy has been a great value, particular value-per-dollar.  Not that I'm jealous or anything of what they've gotten on a $15/2 deal on Mikolas, versus what Theo got on $38/3 Chatwood and $126/6 Darvish....

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« Reply #3640 on: August 20, 2018, 12:43:36 pm »
If he had it to do over again, he'd have gotten some of the Cardinals scouts input and signed Mikolas, that guy has been a great value, particular value-per-dollar.  Not that I'm jealous or anything of what they've gotten on a $15/2 deal on Mikolas, versus what Theo got on $38/3 Chatwood and $126/6 Darvish....

I believe they were after Mikolas, but he chose the Cardinals because his hometown is where they have spring training.

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« Reply #3641 on: August 20, 2018, 12:44:22 pm »
I liked all three Japanese imports: Mikolas, Hirano, and Ohtani.  Didn't have high expectations of getting Ohtani, but Mikolas and Hirano would have been fabulous finds.

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« Reply #3642 on: August 20, 2018, 12:45:02 pm »
I suspect if Theo had it to do over again he would take Jake.

I doubt that...at least not at the price Arrieta was seeking for most of the offseason. If he'd been willing to take the creative deal he settled for with the Phillies in mid-January, then sure, maybe they would've preferred that. But at the time Darvish signed, he was still looking for more guaranteed money than Darvish got. That would've been an extremely risky signing given Arrieta's declining stuff.

I still think Darvish was by far the better choice at the time the deal was made, and I think there's still a better than 50/50 chance that he looks like the right choice over a similarly-priced Arrieta 3 years from now.
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« Reply #3643 on: August 20, 2018, 06:23:24 pm »
Ive found out through Twitter that I can give much more blunt opinions there than I can here and that a lot of people agree with me on Darvish.

I just got more likes on a quote about Darvish's problem not being in his arm but in his heart than every tweet Ive ever tweeted before combined.

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« Reply #3644 on: August 20, 2018, 07:00:09 pm »
I just got more likes on a quote about Darvish's problem not being in his arm but in his heart than every tweet Ive ever tweeted before combined.

That tells me one of two things:
A) There are LOTS of stupid folks who use twitter;
B) Your prior tweets were, well, not at all likable.

Of course the two are not really mutually exclusive.

The idea that Darvish's problem is one of his arm but is one of lack of heart, is simply nonsense.

And the fact that you have previously insisted that your dislike for Japanese pitchers has nothing to do with bias toward the Japanese, but is instead a result of Japanese pitchers being overused and arriving in the U.S. with arms that are ticking timebombs, would seem to be clearly contrary to your current lack of heart claim.