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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #2925 on: June 29, 2018, 06:52:31 pm »
My grandmother was a hypochondriac who'd go months at a time and do nothing but lay around and mope.

My grandfather used to say that all she needed was a good ass chewing and it would fix what ailed her.

My grandfather who has since died needs a few moments with Darvish.

He sure looked fine for Des Moines a few days ago to everyone who watched.

Im guessing he has "I got paid already" syndrome.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #2926 on: June 29, 2018, 07:07:20 pm »
I’m guessing you’re showing your true colors.

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« Reply #2927 on: June 29, 2018, 07:18:09 pm »
Calling out a rich athlete?

Yeah I guess so.

They're not little leaguers.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #2928 on: June 29, 2018, 08:20:51 pm »
Elbow impigment for Darvish. He got an elbow injection and will rest for 3-5 days.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #2929 on: June 29, 2018, 08:40:31 pm »
He sure looked fine for Des Moines a few days ago to everyone who watched.

Not everyone said that (and he was at South Bend, not Des Moines). I saw some reports that he was sitting around 90 mph. For example:

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He said it'd be up to front office and staff as to when he returns. Was throwing some 90-mph pitches we assumed were cutters but he said he didn't throw any and those were FBs.


In any case, the reason you've gotten criticized for your takes around here is because what you've said mostly amounts to "Asian pitchers get hurt more often" with no nuance. And now you're acting like Darvish has some kind of personality flaw that makes him lazy even though you have absolutely zero evidence for that. It's no wonder people think your motivations are based on something other than just performance on the field.

If your take had been "Darvish has thrown a lot of innings, has had injury problems already, and he's missed time almost every year since coming to MLB, so we shouldn't offer him a lot of money" instead of "Every Japanese player but Ichiro has flat out stole money and the pitchers usually don't come over here until their arm is about to fall off. Let somebody else get analized," maybe people would take you more seriously on this topic.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #2930 on: June 29, 2018, 09:16:23 pm »
If the news is bad on Darvish (I sure hope not) keep an eye on Cole Hamels as a potential name linked with the Cubs.

I'd prefer JA Happ.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #2931 on: June 29, 2018, 10:43:05 pm »
Impingement

Cubs starting pitcher Yu Darvish was diagnosed with a right elbow impingement and inflammation after being evaluated by Dr. Keith Meister, an orthopedic surgeon, in Texas on Friday. Darvish receive...
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« Reply #2932 on: June 29, 2018, 10:44:11 pm »
Im not trying to ruffle any feathers even  though I do believe what I've said about the Japanese pitchers not coming over here until their arms have extensive wear.

As far as the rich athlete concept goes I just think that's human nature.

You're gonna bust ass until you get paid and then you'd lose that fire because you did.

I'd do the same.


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« Reply #2933 on: June 29, 2018, 10:56:49 pm »
Maybe you would.  Lots of guys, however, mess themselves up trying to hard to earn the contract that they don't (and I hate to use this) play within themselves.  Lester and Heyward are a couple of examples, but there are plenty of others.  I'm guessing Darvish is in that camp as well.

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« Reply #2934 on: June 29, 2018, 11:07:04 pm »
DelMarFan, that's a very good take, in my opinion.  Darvish seems to be a VERY proud guy who wants to be loved by the fans in Chicago.  Let's get him healthy and see what happens.

And let's also hope THIS version is the real Jason Heyward!  The dude has been en fuego!

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #2935 on: June 30, 2018, 12:06:13 pm »
What is the topical treatment for an impingement?
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #2936 on: June 30, 2018, 12:23:07 pm »
Darvish got a steroid shot into the elbow.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #2937 on: June 30, 2018, 12:49:11 pm »
Bet that felt good.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #2938 on: June 30, 2018, 12:54:12 pm »
CBJ, doesn't cortisone hide the pain rather than cure the problem?

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #2939 on: June 30, 2018, 01:34:24 pm »
Elbow injections are horribly painful.

CBJ, doesn't cortisone hide the pain rather than cure the problem?

It can take away the inflammation and help with the pain so there is a chance it could cure or at least calm it down for months. If it is because of the anatomy of his elbow then the only cure would be a scope of the elbow that hopefully could be done in the off season.