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« Reply #3225 on: July 25, 2018, 08:52:11 pm »
Since Quintana has blown up trading for big name pitchers scares me. Drafting pitchers scares me. Signing pitchers scares me. Pitchers just stink.

Maybe the Rays are on to something. Just have 3 guys pitch 3 innings a game.
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« Reply #3226 on: July 25, 2018, 09:15:45 pm »
Bryant is having shoulder problems that some think will be chronic at least for the rest of the year.  I don't think that this is the time to think about trading Happ or Russell for a pitcher who is already having a worse than Quintana or Hendricks, who we are unhappy with.
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« Reply #3227 on: July 25, 2018, 09:40:26 pm »
In what ways have Quintana and Hendricks been better than Archer this year? They have slightly better ERAs...but all the underlying metrics point to Archer being the far superior pitcher in 2018. I'm not saying the Cubs should necessarily give up Happ in a deal for Archer--I'm pretty apprehensive since he missed time with an arm injury this year. But really, comparing Archer's performance this year to the performance of Cubs pitchers is a good argument in favor of making a strong offer.
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« Reply #3228 on: July 25, 2018, 09:46:58 pm »
Part of me wants Archer on the team.

I think he’d be the Cubs best pitcher, but his ERA has under performers his FIP/xFIP going on three seasons. His lefty splits are worse this year and he’s a 2 pitch pitcher.  Through in the missed time and I’m just seeing bad things. I will admit I’m jaded by Quitana/Darvish/Chatwood/Hendricks all being not great this year.
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« Reply #3229 on: July 25, 2018, 10:39:46 pm »
Archer has always underperformed his stuff.  His quality is not the equal of his reputation.  Good pitcher, but not worth the likely cost.
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« Reply #3230 on: July 25, 2018, 10:49:46 pm »
Quote from: Deeg on July 25, 2018, 10:39:46 pm
Archer has always underperformed his stuff.  His quality is not the equal of his reputation.  Good pitcher, but not worth the likely cost.

2013-2014 his ERA was better that his FIP/xFIP

2015 he was just excellent, 3.23/2.90/3.01.

2016-2018 has been the real underperformance.
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« Reply #3231 on: July 25, 2018, 11:07:32 pm »
Just wondering, would anyone trade Carl Edwards for Chris Archer? 

Edwards is our last leftover from the Garza trade after all.
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« Reply #3232 on: July 25, 2018, 11:37:54 pm »
Yes.
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« Reply #3233 on: July 26, 2018, 02:33:00 am »
Quote from: JR on July 25, 2018, 11:07:32 pm
Just wondering, would anyone trade Carl Edwards for Chris Archer? 

Edwards is our last leftover from the Garza trade after all.

As skeptical as I am of Archer, in a heartbeat.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #3234 on: July 26, 2018, 07:48:32 am »
Looks like there's starting to be some buzz about the move I suggested weeks ago for the Cubs, Cole Hamels.  He's no ace these days, but he's not the bum some are making him out to be.  Given that he's basically a contract dump at this point, the Cubs' lack of prospect depth isn't really an issue there.
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« Reply #3235 on: July 26, 2018, 08:34:22 am »
Home/road splits are staggering and Texas is playing like Coors this’s year.
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« Reply #3236 on: July 26, 2018, 09:28:53 am »
Would Hamels put the Cubs over the luxury tax threshold?
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« Reply #3237 on: July 26, 2018, 10:02:18 am »
Bryant back to the DL, Bote up.
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« Reply #3238 on: July 26, 2018, 10:23:41 am »
I wonder how expensive Zack Wheeler would be? I've always liked his stuff. His numbers aren't great but he might be a nice change of scenery guy
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« Reply #3239 on: July 26, 2018, 10:45:18 am »
Quote from: brjones on July 26, 2018, 10:02:18 am
Bryant back to the DL, Bote up.
I need a vacation.  I saw this post and went to CBS to make the changes.  I need sleep.
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