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« Reply #3585 on: August 18, 2018, 07:27:06 am »
Is it a forgone conclusion we will pick-up Cole Hamels option for next season at $20 million ? Isn't $ 16 million a year the going rate these days for a semi-productive MLB starting pitcher ?
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« Reply #3586 on: August 18, 2018, 07:55:11 am »
I thought there was no way they would pick up his option for 2019.  Looks like I was wrong, and I'm delighted.
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« Reply #3587 on: August 18, 2018, 10:49:03 am »
I always thought that option was, well, an option. But it’s too early to say for sure. Obviously if Hamels keeps pitching this way it’s a no-brainer, but he’ll come back to Earth some.
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« Reply #3588 on: August 18, 2018, 10:53:28 am »
No doubt he will regress some.  But it will be a disappointment (and a surprise) if he regresses to the point that they won't exercise his option for next season.  It seems clear to me that he needs the bright lights of meaningful competition to perform at his best.
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« Reply #3589 on: August 18, 2018, 11:10:35 am »
Quote from: Playtwo on August 18, 2018, 10:53:28 am
No doubt he will regress some.  But it will be a disappointment (and a surprise) if he regresses to the point that they won't exercise his option for next season.  It seems clear to me that he needs the bright lights of meaningful competition to perform at his best.
I agree.  We need to find others like him.   One, a big time pitcher who just needs a change of scenery.  Two, a pitcher inappropriately coached to the point of failure: like Arrieta.  Three, a young pitcher ready to blossom: like Gerrit Cole.   Of course, I thought the latter was Chatwood, and I was wrong, as was the front office.
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« Reply #3590 on: August 18, 2018, 11:48:07 am »
I have seen some vicious slams in my time, but accusing the Cubs Front Office of being as stupid as CurtOne is really being nasty.
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« Reply #3591 on: August 18, 2018, 05:22:56 pm »
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been hyping Hamels as a Cub longer than anyone this season and I’m inclined to bring him back. But that’s a lot of money and the Cubs are going to have a lot of SP options on paper.
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« Reply #3592 on: August 19, 2018, 12:29:38 pm »
Quote from: Deeg on August 15, 2018, 09:00:31 pm
You know there's absolutely no way Lester isn't starting in the postseason (probably game 1), no matter what he does the last six weeks.

Clearly you know things some of the rest of us do not.
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« Reply #3593 on: August 19, 2018, 12:32:42 pm »
Quote from: Deeg on August 15, 2018, 07:19:32 pm
I think Lester's problem is that he's just not that good anymore.  As for Quintana, there's some talk that he's dramatically changed his pitch mix from his South Side days - dropping the cutter, for example.

Not to dispute any of this, but if Quintana has dropped the cutter, and the cutter was an essential pitch to his effectiveness, the obvious question would be why?  Why in the world has he dropped it?
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« Reply #3594 on: August 19, 2018, 12:36:33 pm »
Quote from: DUSTY on August 15, 2018, 07:39:32 pm
According to this board no matter how good Lester does he still sucks and no matter how much Hendricks sucks he's still good.

This board is seldom monolithic on much of anything, including the question of the relative performance or value of Lester and Hendricks.
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« Reply #3595 on: August 19, 2018, 12:43:15 pm »
Quintana's heavy cutter usage was 2012 at 25.99%.  In 2013 it dropped to 13.40%.  2014 2.71%, 2015 4.50%, 2016 0.49%.

Except for the first 2 years it was his 5th pitch.  Quintana's issue this year is command, not his pitch mix.
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« Reply #3596 on: August 19, 2018, 12:43:40 pm »
Quote from: brjones on August 15, 2018, 07:46:59 pm
If Hendricks finishes strong, the Cubs would be smart to explore trades in the offseason. His reputation probably exceeds his performance going forward, and there’s just not much margin for error there.

I always find it amusing how many people seem to believe that they are the only ones who can do something as simple as looking at a player's stat line or who seem to think that a large number of other team's general managers are simply blithering idiots.

I am not really commenting here on Hendricks, nor suggesting that brjones is the only one who does this (or even that I never do), but it is amusing how we often seem to think that a large number of opposing general managers are fools.
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« Reply #3597 on: August 19, 2018, 12:45:49 pm »
Quote from: CUBluejays on August 19, 2018, 12:43:15 pm
Quintana's heavy cutter usage was 2012 at 25.99%.  In 2013 it dropped to 13.40%.  2014 2.71%, 2015 4.50%, 2016 0.49%.

Except for the first 2 years it was his 5th pitch.  Quintana's issue this year is command, not his pitch mix.


So you want us to have our opinions actually influenced by facts?

What kind of nonsense is that?
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #3598 on: August 19, 2018, 12:52:19 pm »
After reading the posts in this topic and the Today's Game topic, it's hard to remember the Cubs still have the best record in the league.
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« Reply #3599 on: August 19, 2018, 01:33:51 pm »
Darvish left his rehab start early. Felt something he didn't like in warmups.
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