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« Reply #3615 on: August 19, 2018, 06:38:37 pm »
If Harvey were to make it through waivers as far as St Louis or Milwaukee, either or both would be foolish not to claim him.  If he stinks, they have lost nothing but the waiver cost, and if he does well, they keep him from helping the Cubs.

Do we know if he has  already passed through waivers?
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« Reply #3616 on: August 19, 2018, 08:00:04 pm »
I think the Cubs' only real option will be if a starter passes through waivers because he makes too much money for anyone to claim him. As davep said, anyone reasonably appealing like Harvey probably won't make it past other NL contenders. And anyone cheap who passes through waivers probably isn't better than current Cub option.

Looking at the free agent list for this offseason, maybe James Shields and Marco Estrada would be decent?
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« Reply #3617 on: August 19, 2018, 08:11:33 pm »
James Shields stopped being decent in Kansas City
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« Reply #3618 on: August 19, 2018, 08:39:11 pm »
Shields has actually been surprisingly decent this year--1.4 fWAR, which would be second among Cubs starters.  He's been pretty close to league average.

He's not good, but it probably beats throwing Chatwood out there.
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« Reply #3619 on: August 19, 2018, 09:28:08 pm »
Wonder if the Nationals would part with Gio or Hellickson.
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« Reply #3620 on: August 19, 2018, 09:48:02 pm »
I doubt either would make it to the Cubs on waivers. Even with his down year, someone ahead of the Cubs would claim Gio hoping they could get a Hamels-type rebound from him.

Hellickson is so cheap--roughly $500K the rest of the year--that he'd get claimed by the Brewers or Cardinals just to keep him away from the Cubs. He also apparently hit the DL a couple days ago, so he wouldn't be much help in the short term anyway.
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« Reply #3621 on: August 19, 2018, 10:44:11 pm »
Just probing through the garbage for some backup.
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« Reply #3622 on: August 19, 2018, 10:48:30 pm »
Quote from: Playtwo on August 19, 2018, 03:22:42 pm
They might be forced to give Chatwood another couple of starts before rosters expand.

They could probably talk Shawn Estes to come out of retirement.... and he likely wouldn't be much worse than he was before.
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« Reply #3623 on: August 19, 2018, 10:49:08 pm »
Didn't we used to have this guy?

Dodgers' Zac Rosscup Strikes out the Side on 9 Pitches for Immaculate Inning
There wasn't much pressure on Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Zac Rosscup when he entered the ninth inning of his team's 12-1 victory over the Seattle Mariners on Sunday, but he still deliver...
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« Reply #3624 on: August 19, 2018, 10:51:09 pm »
Quote from: DUSTY on August 19, 2018, 01:59:39 pm
Theo has given out 3 big contracts and 2/3 have been disappointments.

This has very little to do with Theo, and a great deal to do with big free agent contracts.

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« Reply #3625 on: August 20, 2018, 12:15:02 am »
The Cubs will play the Pirates in the 2019 Little League Classic in Williamsport, PA.   Highlights of this year's event between the Phillies and the Mets were fun to watch.


http://www.espn.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=24420529
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« Reply #3626 on: August 20, 2018, 08:07:55 am »
You don’t want Darvish having a second TJS. The success rate on 2nd TJS is much worse than the first.
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« Reply #3627 on: August 20, 2018, 08:28:06 am »
Quote from: Jesse Rogers  July 31
On Friday, Darvish felt pain in his elbow for the first 10 pitches of a throwing session, but then he altered his mechanics and felt better. He carried that over to Tuesday, when he kept the same mechanics in play. Darvish thinks he'll simulate a couple innings in the bullpen in a couple days, take a break, then throw some more. He hasn't pitched in a big league game since late May.

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Cubs right-hander Yu Darvish threw 35 pitches during a bullpen session Tuesday afternoon and came away pain-free "for the first time in two months."
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It looks like we were all guilty of wishful thinking.  The underlying problem was still there.
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« Reply #3628 on: August 20, 2018, 10:20:38 am »
Quote from: CUBluejays on August 20, 2018, 08:07:55 am
You don’t want Darvish having a second TJS. The success rate on 2nd TJS is much worse than the first.

If his UCL is shot it's going to happen anyway - better sooner than later.

If there's nothing with the UCL, I don't see any obvious explanation for why this has become such a chronic issue.  Hopefully there is one, and it's fixable short of surgery.
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« Reply #3629 on: August 20, 2018, 10:34:16 am »
Quote from: Deeg on August 20, 2018, 10:20:38 am
If his UCL is shot it's going to happen anyway - better sooner than later.

If there's nothing with the UCL, I don't see any obvious explanation for why this has become such a chronic issue.  Hopefully there is one, and it's fixable short of surgery.

A lot of things can cause elbow pain that aren't related to UCL.  The recovery rate for a second TJS is below 50%, so him undergoing a second TJS is close admitting he's done as a pitcher.  The Cubs should do everything possible to avoid it.  Even if he had TJS tomorrow and returned it wouldn't be until 2020 when he's pitching again, so there isn't a rush.
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