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Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2011, 11:06:24 am »
Moffit may be a fit for the Bears.  UW OL players usually fair pretty well in the NFL.

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« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2011, 04:41:55 pm »
Hey! You guys missed me!!! I can speeellll....I clearly can not type. I need to get my admin to type these! Ha!

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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2011, 10:11:42 am »
I don't expect to see GB draft anyone on day one.  Odds seem overwhelming that they will trade down from #32.

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Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2011, 03:34:45 pm »
e-mail print By Bob McGinn of the Journal Sentinel
April 29, 2011 |(98) Comments

Excited: 92% Disappointed: 8% Total Responses: 7686
 TOM SILVERSTEIN:

Green Bay — Making draft choices such as Mississippi State's Derek Sherrod are how top National Football League organizations stay on top for the long haul.

Twelve years after the Green Bay Packers drafted left tackle Chad Clifton with the 44th overall pick, the Packers landed his heir apparent Thursday night with the 32nd and final selection of the first round.

"I hope he's as good as Chad Clifton in terms of pass setting and doing what we want him to do," general manager Ted Thompson said. "We'll see. We're going to give him a chance to play, though."

Sherrod, 6 feet 5½ inches and 315 pounds, is a three-year starter at left tackle in the Southeastern Conference just as Clifton was a four-year starter in the SEC for Tennessee.

Besides similar body types, personnel people said there are also similarities how Sherrod played compared to how the 34-year-old Clifton has played for 11 seasons in Green Bay.

Sherrod is regarded as more of an athletic player than a power player. By style, he probably fits better as a left tackle.

"He plays with good balance and base," Thompson said. "Hard to knock off his feet. He has ability to run block and cross over to pass block. We think he has a chance to be a complete player."

Somewhat surprisingly, Sherrod was the sixth tackle to be taken, although the Packers had him ranked several rungs higher. When Sherrod fell to Green Bay, Thompson said the mood in the draft room was jubilant.

"We were pretty happy," he said. "I feel OK. If you can get a quality big man I think you always lean that way."

Sherrod's bid to play early in his career and become a long-term player will be enhanced by his intelligence. He graduated, earned a 3.54-grade point average and scored 25 on the 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test.

That gives him the edge on Clifton, who has always required extra repetitions throughout his career as one of the most gifted pass blockers in the business.

When the Packers get back to playing football, the assumption is that Clifton will be at left tackle, Bulaga will be at right tackle and Sherrod will be stationed behind Clifton with the capability of playing both sides.

"I think either he or Bryan could play left tackle," said Thompson. "We'll kind of see. It just works itself out."

Thompson said he wouldn't rate Sherrod as a better athlete than Bulaga or Bulaga as a stronger player than Sherrod. On the bench press, Sherrod came up short with just 23 reps.

"We were surprised Bryan was there (23) where he was last year and we were kind of surprised Derek was still there," Thompson said.

They say the best time for a team to draft a left tackle is when they don't need one. The Packers didn't plan to start Bulaga as a rookie but when Mark Tauscher was injured he was there to offer solid performance at right tackle on a Super Bowl champion. Now the hope is that Sherrod can do the same if the oft-injured Clifton were to go down.

"I hope he's a 10-year player," said Thompson. "But I don't know if I'll be here then."

The selection of Sherrod undoubtedly means that T.J. Lang will play guard in his third season. He and Nick McDonald are expected to compete for the No. 1 job at left guard even if Daryn Colledge is resigned.

Marshall Newhouse, a fifth-round pick in 2010, might have the feet for left tackle and will go to camp as the No. 4 tackle. Tauscher almost certainly will not return.

Of the six top tackles, Sherrod's arm length of 35 3/8 inches ranked third longest and are about 2 inches longer than Bulaga's. His size-11 hands tied with Colorado's Nate Solder as the largest.

"He's a big, long guy," said Thompson. "I guess the other guys that took a left tackle would say their guy is the best. We liked how it turned out."

Thompson said he had some discussions from teams interested in acquiring the 32nd pick but nothing was serious in the last hour before the pick was made at 10:38 p.m.

"It never was close," he said. "There were some stupid deals offered to us."

Thompson said he was not offered a first- or second-round pick in 2012 in exchange for No. 32.

"Once it got to be our pick we were ready to go," he said.

Unlike the last two drafts, when the Packers traded up for linebacker Clay Matthews (first round) and safety Morgan Burnett (third round), they stood pat this time even though several players they liked slipped down the board.

Alabama running back Mark Ingram, a player that friends of Thompson said he had tremendous admiration for since last fall, fell all the way to 28 before NFC rival New Orleans traded up with New England to take him.

"I won't talk about that," Thompson said. "That player is on another team."

Meanwhile, Thompson bypassed Clemson's Da'Quan Bowers even though sources said the Packers had serious interest in him. The word was that the Packers planned to use Bowers as a third-down pass rusher while teaching him how to play right outside linebacker opposite Matthews.

In time, the feeling was that the 285-pound Bowers might have been able to bulk up and play end in the 3-4.

After the combine re-check two weeks ago, the doctors for just three teams flunked Bowers because of his post-operative knee. The Packers cleared Bowers, but there are degrees of clearance.

Having been stung by defensive tackle Justin Harrell and his multitude of injuries, Thompson decided against taking an explosive pass rusher in favor of the safer pick at perhaps an even greater position of need.

Asked if Bowers was a fit for the Packers' 3-4, Thompson replied, "It's part of the discussion we were having. It's debatable. But he's a good football player."
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Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2011, 10:20:39 am »
I absolutely loved the picks of WR Randall Cobb and and RB Alex Green.   Mayock said of the GB and Pitt picks "the rich get richer".
 
Cobb is a "do-it-all" player, including kick returner.  He does everything from catch and run to even throwing a pass.  Very "aware" player.
 
Green has the receiving talent of a WR coming out of the backfield.
 
Both players fit perfectly for the Packers' offensive style.
 
Adding Green and Cobb to Finley and the present WR corps should make  the passing game very hard to stop.
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Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2011, 10:48:16 am »
Randall Cobb
Green Bay Packers
Round 2, Pick 64
SI Grade
2.87
Grading System
Position: WR
Class:  3Jr
School: Kentucky
Conference: Southeastern
HT: 5-10.5
WT: 191
40 Time: 4.46
Biography: Full-time starter the past two seasons after seeing limited action with the first team as a freshman. All-Conference selection after his sophomore and junior campaigns and named an All-American in 2010. Receiving totals last season included 84/1017/7 when he also added 424 yards and five touchdowns on the ground. Averaged 7.8 yards on 28 punt returns with additional score as well as 23.7 yards on 41 kick returns. Sophomore totals included 39/447/4 receiving and 573/10 rushing. Averaged 12.8 yards on 44 punt returns with another score that season.

Positives: "Versatile skill player who positively affects the offense in a variety of ways. Shows terrific quickness, has a burst of speed, and is dynamic handling the ball. Fluid receiver who comes back to the pass out of breaks, easily adjusts to the errant throw, and possesses both soft and strong hands. Quickly transitions from making the catch to running after the reception, shows a burst of speed, and has the ability to create yardage in the open field. Quick footed and elusive, displays terrific explosiveness, and plays with intelligence. Effective running reverses, alters the momentum of games as a return specialist, and occasionally lined up behind center in wildcat formations."

Negatives: Not a true deep threat. Really cannot run to the long pass.

Analysis: Cobb has been tremendously productive on the college level since stepping onto the field as a freshman for Kentucky. He's a multipurpose offensive threat with the skills to be a second receiver and return man on the NFL level.

Projection: 2nd

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/684600-randall-cobb-to-green-bay-packers-2011-nfl-draft-scouting-report
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Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2011, 02:49:11 pm »
Green Bay Packers Draft Grade
Sean Gardner/Getty Images Picks: OT Derek Sherrod, WR Randall Cobb, RB Alex Green




The Packers make a safe, conservative pick by drafting one of our top offensive tackles in Derek Sherrod. Sherrod can replace Chad Clifton at left tackle in the next two seasons.

Randall Cobb is a dynamic player who can make plays in the run game, passing game and on special teams. He's a Percy Harvin-like talent.

Alex Green is a pick we really like. He's a big back with speed who fits the Packers offense. He wasn't used right at Hawaii. The Packers will use him right.

 

Grade: A


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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2011, 04:25:12 pm »
Just a quick check-in post before I hit the road to the in-laws. Quite pleased with the top 4 in the draft, the rest will prove out only with time. Impossible not to notice that the Packers do not neglect to factor in character big-time with their picks as per past history - no issues with any so far and Sherrod seems to be outstanding.

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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2011, 04:50:21 pm »
They are Packers therefore they automaticly SUCK!!!

Such is the way of Packers.  I don't make the rules I just point them out...

Oh and can I get three pounds of back bacon, two packs of smokes and a beer... in a tree!?!?!?!

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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2011, 04:52:44 pm »
I couldn't leave w/o commenting on Dan Lauria's LOMBARDI cameo while announcing the Elmore pick. I saw the Broadway play a few weeks ago and it was rivetting. Great move by GB.

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« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2011, 04:56:09 pm »
Heh Pekin. Other than than the smokes, I have lots, especially below:


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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2011, 05:13:53 pm »
Beer is good! 

I actually quit smoking years ago!  That **** will kill you plus it is WAY to expensive.

I need my lungs way more then my liver plus my liver is tough it can take it!

May the Bears and Packers meet in the Championship game again this year.  Of course with a different ending...

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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2011, 06:40:54 pm »
I'll go along with part of that.   ;-)
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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2011, 07:29:39 pm »
Hey Pack, gotta get an icon.

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« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2011, 10:07:31 am »
Super Bowl champs even stronger on offense

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The picks are in -- all 254 -- from the NFL Draft. No one knows when there will be an on-field sighting for these lads. Unfortunately, that decision is in the hands of the courts instead of coaches.

But you want instant analysis. Here are five teams we believe helped themselves the most.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tampa’s youth movement continues to look promising. To complement their young playmakers on offense, the Bucs added pass rushers in DEs Adrian Clayborn and Da’Quan Bowers, and a productive MLB in Mason Foster.

“I think we have a system in place,” coach Raheem Morris said. “Our whole deal is about playing fast, playing hard, playing smart and playing together.”

Green Bay Packers. Is it possible their already potent offense could become even more dynamic? It is if WR-KR Randall Cobb, RB Alex Green and TE D.J. Williams perform up to expectations. Williams, last year’s Mackey Award winner, and Jermichael Finley could give the Super Bowl champs a productive tandem much like New England’s young duo of Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez.

Detroit Lions. Coach Jim Schwartz’s team had only five selections, but it made the most of them. WR Titus Young and RB Mikel Leshoure add more firepower. Nick Fairley, paired with Ndamukong Suh, last year’s defensive rookie of the year, gives the Lions two formidable tackles.

“What you want to do is match the players’ talent with what you’re going to ask them to do,” Schwartz told ESPN, “and also have the discipline to take the best player on the board that fits that.”

New England Patriots. They didn’t take many marquee players, but the Patriots plucked nine prospects, including Ryan Mallett, the potential successor to Tom Brady. And the forward-looking Patriots did enough dealing to get themselves two picks in each of the first two rounds next year.