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Dave23

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Pujols to the Cubs?
« on: May 12, 2011, 03:44:25 pm »
Since everyone would LOVE to get Pujols, let's set the record straight...

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Re: Pujols to the Cubs?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2011, 03:55:58 pm »
There was a report coming out of Chicago today that Hendry is very upset about hug-gate, repeating his claim that he always hugs Pujols.  "I just love the guy and how he plays."  He termed the whole hullabaloo a non-story.

In a related story, maids at the Cardinals' hotel, reported finding Hendry's underwear in Albert Pujols room.  "Another non-story," claimed Hendry, "I always leave my underwear in his room.  And besides, they're not really mine.  I accidentally took Koyie's the night before."

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Re: Pujols to the Cubs?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2011, 04:11:32 pm »
Part of thinks it would be awesome to take Pujols away from St. Louis but the other part of me says it probably wouldnt be the smart move.

With the reported asking price [10 /300] being as high as it is if he was to turn out to be a bust it would be crippling to your payroll for a long time.

If I were Jim Hendry and the decision was mine I honestly think I would take a pass.

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Re: Pujols to the Cubs?
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2011, 04:16:01 pm »
We need a few more options on the poll..it would be surprising if Pujols signed a contract as small as any of those listed.

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Re: Pujols to the Cubs?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2011, 04:17:11 pm »
If today is any example, why spend all that money to lose 9-3 instead of 9-1?

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Re: Pujols to the Cubs?
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2011, 04:18:23 pm »
If today is any example, why spend all that money to lose 9-3 instead of 9-1?

EL Bingo!

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Re: Pujols to the Cubs?
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2011, 05:02:53 pm »
Ideally, the Yankees miss the playoffs, decide they have to have Pujols, and are forced to dump Teixeira for much less than he's worth when he refuses DH so they can move his salary.  Then the Cubs pick Tex up for 5 years/$23M per year (plus a couple of mid-level prospects) instead of Pujols for 8-10 years/$30M per year.

If you think contracts like Ramirez's, Fukudome's, and Zambrano's are bad, just wait to see what happens with Pujols' contract by year 6 (maybe earlier if he turns out to be a little older than his listed age).  The Cubs shouldn't go beyond 5 years on him.

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Re: Pujols to the Cubs?
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2011, 05:44:28 pm »
I certainly wouldn't sign pujols for any of the terms listed above.

I think, for the money, that Prince Fielder will be a much better deal.

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Re: Pujols to the Cubs?
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2011, 05:49:57 pm »
I'd take him for the Giordano's and the Dog Style.  If it were Anchor or Sam Adams, no.
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2011, 05:51:48 pm »
I certainly wouldn't sign pujols for any of the terms listed above.

I think, for the money, that Prince Fielder will be a much better deal.
The per pound price would be less, too.  Fielder is a medical problem waiting to happen.

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Re: Pujols to the Cubs?
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2011, 05:53:29 pm »
No. Pujols will not be a Cub.

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Re: Pujols to the Cubs?
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2011, 06:28:53 pm »
Fielder would be much cheaper, 1M a year plus all the buffets that Jimbo goes to.  And a no hug policy, since neither can wrap up anyhow.

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Re: Pujols to the Cubs?
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2011, 06:36:11 pm »
One cautionary tale I can think of for signing Pujols is Ken Griffey, Jr.  Like Pujols, Griffey was a future Hall of Famer still in the prime of his career, and giving him a 9 year deal (or whatever it was) looked like a relatively safe investment.

The Griffey contract didn't turn out completely horribly for the Reds, but it certainly didn't turn out ideally for them either.  He only played more than 140 games three times in the nine seasons he was there.  It's fair to say the vast majority of what Griffey accomplished to get into the Hall of Fame happened in Seattle.

Granted, I'd like to see the Cubs get Pujols, and even though I'll be plenty nervous and be pretty sure the latter years won't be so great, I could go along with as much as the 6 year $180 deal.  (I think 7 years is too long of a contract to give to anybody.)   

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Re: Pujols to the Cubs?
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2011, 07:09:25 pm »
The Arizona Diamondbacks went more than $200,000,000.00 in debt when they brought in Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling to win the World Series.     They rolled the dice, got lucky, and haven't been competitive since that team was disbanded..

I could go for signing Albert Pujols if he was what it would take to put the Cubs over the top. But what other player(s) besides Albert would the Cubs have to acquire and would you be willing to pay the price?   And could you live with:  “Yeah, but you didn't win the World Series, you bought it”?

When the ultimate goal is within reach, then do whatever it takes to make it happen.  Until then, continue to build the farm system. 

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Re: Pujols to the Cubs?
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2011, 07:59:31 pm »
I could go for signing Albert Pujols if he was what it would take to put the Cubs over the top.... When the ultimate goal is within reach, then do whatever it takes to make it happen.  Until then, continue to build the farm system.

That is key.

Instead of looking at how much we would like to sign Pujols of Fielder, the Cubs should first look at whether they are ready to make that kind of dip into the FA market.  Has the team progressed enough that it can clearly sustain itself for years at a strong level, and with a Pujols or Fielder being the addition which would make the team dominant.

The answer is no.

This team needs to fundamentally rebuild, and then, after two or three years, when it appeared things were beginning to jell, and the prospect pipeline was well stocked, it might make sense to look for a major FA move.

Until then, serious FA moves are far more likely to hurt than to help.