Author Topic: Ryan Dempster  (Read 7182 times)

Cubsin

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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2012, 11:37:13 pm »
Why would it be bad to have Dempster on the roster?  if they can't get something quite good for him, then keep him and offer him a qualifying amount this winter.  If he refuses, we get a draft choice.  If he accepts, we have him for another year, and might be able to trade him this winter or next summer.

Yeah, when the booing gets to Dempster, we can send him and the balance of his 2013 salary to the Dodgers for table scraps (if they still want him).

ticohans

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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2012, 11:54:49 pm »
So if ATL doesnt get another SP, before Demp is dealt, you think Delgado is still on the table?

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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2012, 11:56:14 pm »
Greinke's going to get traded so there's another arm in the way of any Dempster or Garza deal.

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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2012, 12:07:11 am »
So if ATL doesnt get another SP, before Demp is dealt, you think Delgado is still on the table?

No way Delgado is still on the table.  Wren is almost as pissed at this double-cross as Theo.

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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2012, 07:57:22 am »
Greinke's going to get traded so there's another arm in the way of any Dempster or Garza deal.

Greineke is going to cost a whole lot more than Dempster or Garza, so while he's certainly a factor, it's sort of apples and oranges.

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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2012, 08:50:11 am »
What a disappointment.... I thought this topic was going to be where Deeg and jiggs would post their offers to find a hitman to take out Dempster....
This is not going to end well.
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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2012, 08:52:43 am »
Grienke will NOT cost a whole lot more than Garza. Grienke is a rental. Garza has the extra year of control and the comp pick.

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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2012, 08:53:17 am »
Bruce Miles is much admired here, appropriately so. He's not a shill for anyone, he's not out to create controversy or a splash, and he's not a bandwagon jumper, like so many writers are.  He has what I consider a very thoughtful and balanced article on the Dempster situation.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120726/sports/707269631/

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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2012, 08:58:08 am »
Grienke will NOT cost a whole lot more than Garza. Grienke is a rental. Garza has the extra year of control and the comp pick.

I should have said cost more than Dempster.  My mistake.  No idea how Garza stacks up against Greineke - given that deal for Greineke could include an extension.

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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2012, 09:01:12 am »
Dempster's bad luck that Garza was taken out of the picture when he was.  If the Cubs could have substituted Garza for Dempster, getting a haul from LA in the process, people would still be upset with Dempster, but not as upset as now with the possibility of not being able to make good trades for either Dempster or Garza.

Hopefully, we'll have a pleasant surprise or two by Tuesday. Fingers crossed (toes too).

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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2012, 09:02:35 am »
Dodgers don't have the prospects to get Garza

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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2012, 09:07:39 am »
Is anyone else deeply ambivelent about trading Garza? Say you could get Lee and Webster from the Dodgers for him...maybe, in 3 years, one of them is almost as good as Garza is now.

Frankly given his age and contract status and stuff, I'd prefer the Cubs just  kept him (unless his personality is annoying as hell to his teammates, which seems possible).


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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2012, 09:30:23 am »
Dempster's bad luck that Garza was taken out of the picture when he was.

What did I miss?

How was Garza taken out of the picture?

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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #43 on: July 27, 2012, 10:10:47 am »
His injury probably caused other teams to be cautious, at least for now.

Deeg

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Re: Ryan Dempster
« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2012, 10:45:29 am »
While comparing the Dempster situation to the Maddux situation is silly to begin with, it's interesting that Miles - who indeed is normally the best of the Cubs beat writers - had some factual errors in there, whatever you think of his opinion.  Most glaring is that Dempster didn't scuttle a deal "for a AAA prospect".  Delgado is a major-league pitcher.