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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #1800 on: December 10, 2018, 09:29:27 am »
Must have been the weather

I heard that discussion both pregame talk and during the game from Collinsworth. That was going to be a factor in a Bears win. That had an effect I'm sure, like the heat had in the Miami loss

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #1801 on: December 10, 2018, 10:09:08 am »
Watched most of the Packers game yesterday.  Whenever ATL defenders breathed on Jimmy Graham, flags flew from Walt Coleman’s crew, almost like they had a point of emphasis.

Hopefully the Bears push through all that and get a decisive win Sunday.

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #1802 on: December 10, 2018, 10:22:17 am »
Scattershootings...

- according to Pro Football Focus the Rams LT LG RG and RT were all ranked 3 or 4 at their position in the NFL.  Bears interior d-line had one of their best games - not just Hicks but Bullard, Goldman, and Ray-Robertston Harris.

- NFL network start'em sit'em said to start Brandin Cooks 3 catches 22 yards and to sit Jodan Howard (he's on the list just about every week)  19 for 101   (I'm thinking that that 4th rounder is solidifying once the Bears trade him in a couple months)

- Offensive line did a fantastic job, not just Daniels, all of them, Leno and Massey kept the pocket clean, Witzmann had some good blocks and Whitehair had some great pulls that opened up huge holes.  Aaron Donald for league MVP?

- Trubisky rust was apparent - way off - even on those sideways easy throws.  Announcers said he had a dislocated shoulder which is much worse than the day to day stuff Nagy was telling the media.  I was almost hoping they brought in Chase Daniel at one point as everybody was doing their job except #10

- I don't like to look ahead...but Bears not only could face the Rams again but they might have back to back home and home games against the Vikings.  Yeah, bring that dome team to Soldier Field in January.

- Sherrick McManus has surprised me with his play on defense - I have been down on him the last couple of years but he's doing well.  Still hoping Callahan's foot injury is not a break and just a sprain.

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« Reply #1803 on: December 10, 2018, 10:40:08 am »
Mitch over threw receivers all game....that's either:

1. not enough practice
2. Shoulder is bothering him

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #1804 on: December 10, 2018, 11:04:36 am »
He was doing that before the injury.

Still beats watching Cutler throw balls into the dirt...

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« Reply #1805 on: December 10, 2018, 11:10:44 am »
My guess is the shoulder is still bothering him. I kinda figured Mitch's problem was more serious than what the Bears were letting the fans and media know And the throws told me he had more problems than rust.

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« Reply #1806 on: December 10, 2018, 11:26:59 am »
I think Mitch's shoulder injury was a lot worse than what they let on. If I'm Nagy, depending on how Mitch feels today, I think about sitting him a couple more weeks. He could skip the Packers game and come back for the 9'ers. If his shoulders good, then great, get him the reps..

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #1807 on: December 10, 2018, 11:33:18 am »
Really good win for the franchise. If we have to play them again in the playoffs, we better find some offense. It will be a different game. Their place, warmer weather, and they now know they better bring their A game. Priority in the offseason, find a new kicker..

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« Reply #1808 on: December 10, 2018, 11:47:34 am »
I am not so sure on the high throws, sometimes they are because of bad footwork/mechanics or just nerves.  Whatever the cause, he really needs to get it together.

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« Reply #1809 on: December 10, 2018, 12:06:09 pm »
Funny listening to NFLN game day - those guys were laughing at Rodgers expecting a Roughing call when ATL nearly pulled his helmet off...

Said "You don't get the calls when you're not winning"

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #1810 on: December 10, 2018, 12:26:18 pm »
I think Mitch's shoulder injury was a lot worse than what they let on. If I'm Nagy, depending on how Mitch feels today, I think about sitting him a couple more weeks. He could skip the Packers game and come back for the 9'ers. If his shoulders good, then great, get him the reps..

I agree - it was worse, but the fact that he was OVER throwing receivers tells me its more rust/mechanics than it was pain/weakness.  Assuming the shoulder is sound he needs more reps not less.

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« Reply #1811 on: December 10, 2018, 01:02:46 pm »
Yep...usually the high throws are from throwing off your back foot. That's all mechanics.

The way I understand it is Mitch needed a lot of work on mechanics earlier in the year and pre-season. I am just guessing the time off has lead to more bad habits.

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« Reply #1812 on: December 10, 2018, 01:26:35 pm »
As to Trubisky, he said in his interview last night he was "amped Up" and "needs to settle down.  I think he's like a lot of young QB's have been historically that they try too hard and lose their mechanics.  He needs a shot of whiskey before the game.

It's hard to figure his bad throws were due to the injury because he was throwing hard.  Strangely, I heard analysis of Cam Newton after yesterdays game and they were discussing that he has a bad shoulder.  Newton is also throwing hard but overthrowing.

McMannis led the team in tackles with 7.  But I think opponents will be targeting him if he has to play.

I'm still scratching my head how this OL so effectively blocked by far the best DL it has faced.  AARON DONALD was in the game and looked just average.

Collinsworth pointed out the fact that Trevathan and Smith have enough speed so the Bears don't need to bring their safeties up for the short passing game like other teams.  Pace knew what he was doing.

Does Mack get credit for a sack when he knocked the ball out of Goff's hands?

Beerfan, I think the reason Mack is dropped into coverage sometimes is because he sometimes is triple teamed.  There's not much chance of getting a pass rush through that.  I see he just drops into coverage and you see two OL and a tight end standing there with no one to block.
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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #1813 on: December 10, 2018, 01:40:57 pm »

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I think only Trubiky, the Bears coaches and the medical staff really know the status of his shoulder - we can only guess base on his play.  They aren't going to be 100% truthful.

McManis is a huge liability at cornerback but I think we can get by with him at nickel.  In the few games he's been on the field he's done well.  But he's in no way a Bryce Callahan.

The Rams D-line is pretty much Aaron Donald.  He's got half the team's sacks.  But Suh and Brockers are not pass rushing threats...3.5 and 1 sack on the year respectively.  Aside from Donald their strength is their defensive backfield but overall it's a middle of the road defense.

Stripping the ball out of the QB's hands is a sack.

Bears had all sorts of defensive alignments up front.  They'd played more 3-4 last night than they have recently.  In a 3-4 when you rush 4 one of the LBers has to drop back.  Rushing the passer takes a lot of energy.  Bears often gave Mack and Floyd a break by letting them drop into coverage.

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #1814 on: December 10, 2018, 01:55:43 pm »
So Trubisky statistically had the worst game of his career.

SCORE cited an analysis that after 13 games the Bears 2018 defense is in the top 10 of all time.