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Yep - wins pretty much sugar coat all the performances - good and bad. There are so many plays that could go either way that could have made the difference in the game. Its just everyone remembers the most visible one near the end.
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One things for certain though.. If Parkey makes that kick we wouldn't even be discussing any of this. We'd be talking about the Rams.. Fukk me!!
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The 36 yard punt prior to that last Eagles drive didn't help either.
Agree!
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It was a hard fought game, by both teams. Absolutely the O played like sh!t the first half. But the fact is we had the lead at the end of the game and the D didn't stop the Eagles when they needed to. It was a team loss, but the D was our silver bullet.. At least at that point, they were more like chrome plated..
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Yep - sometimes better to be lucky than good - maybe if Eddie Jackson was out there the results would have been different
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The Eagles tackles are getting a lot of pub on how they shut down the Bears pass rush. And Lane Johnson and Jason Peters were solid but I give most the credit to Foles for knowing where to go with the ball and consistently unloading the ball prior to contact.
Foles was not throwing to open receivers when he released the ball - but they were open when the ball arrived.
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The 36 yard punt prior to that last Eagles drive didn't help either.
The Eagles did a better job than anyone the Bears played at getting the ball off very quickly to minimize the rush.
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I agree holding any team to 16 points should make a win, but they were giving up lots of 10+ yard plays, and that last PHI drive was sad. Yes the Off should have scored more, but I was hoping for a more dominant D performance. Just saying.
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They'll show a little more URGENCY next time - after feeling the pain of this loss
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Philadelphia won 6 of its last 7 games with the offense putting up:
25, 28, 23, 30, 32, and 24...that's an average of 27...even more with the Foles starts.
Bears gave up 16 on Sunday
Yeah, the defense had some lapses but the offense scored ONE touchdown on Sunday and attempted 4 field goals.
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And it makes me wonder if in the back of his mind Fangio was thinking about his HC job interview. Wish that wasnt even part of it, but the D definitely did NOT play lights out against Foles.
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This loss isn't just on Parkey. He could've won the game though.. We were winning the game, with Philly on their side of the field,with not much time left. Our D couldn't stop Foles. Stop Foles, we win..
After looking all world against the Vikings, the defense did not feel dominant against the Eagles and the 4th down play was one we could have won it on. Credit Foles, he wasn't spectacular, but he got the ball out on time and prevented our defense from building momentum.
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Exactly what I thought today..
Gould wasn't holding up his final season with us. The environment with Trestman was toxic and his performance was below average. Perhaps the best thing for him was to be released so he could refocus and find his swing again. He is still plenty young enough to go for several more years and if he is revitalized from his time away, this would solve a major issue.
One of the trib writers wrote something that I tend to agree with. Parkey could go 12 -12 in September, miss a couple kicks at the start of October and then the Bears fans would be, here we go again. Or have a great year at 39-40, and have to line up a kick in the playoffs with everything on the line again. It just doesn't bode well for the team to have that always hanging over them one kick attempt away.
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This loss isn't just on Parkey. He could've won the game though.. We were winning the game, with Philly on their side of the field,with not much time left. Our D couldn't stop Foles. Stop Foles, we win..
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I know people have been clamoring for Robbie Gould to come back, myself included. But I am wondering how his kickoff distance has been since he was gone. As I recall when Pace let him go, besides making a ton of money, his kickoffs were on the short side.
Exactly what I thought today..
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Wondering where you were. This board helps with our suffering.
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Dang, what did I miss?! Sorry, I haven't been on the board since Sunday morning. I think everyone has said it all! Just 27 pages of posts!!
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Robie Gould himself said on the Waddle and Silvey show that the Bears cutting him when they did was the right move. It made him a better kicker. He re-devoted himself to the art to become better. That is why there were no hard feelings when it happened. He knew he wasn't earning the contract he had so he went set out to get back to his previous level. Had he not been cut it would have been more of the same. Cutting him made him better. (paraphrasing of course).
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I was more surprised that he hit the upright again than the fact he missed the second kick. Just saying.
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I would be surprised if Parkey even wants to stay in Chicago.
After what Trestman's family went through you know his life in Chicago is going to be miserable. There are too many weird deranged people out there thinking Parky did something personally to them. It's football, it's a sport, he's not a good kicker and he missed one. As for me I didn't expect him to make the kick based on what I've see this season. Apparently there is a large number of Bears fans who were shocked he missed it.
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Someone said Parkey's first kick barely made it over and he might have been over compensating on the 2nd kick. It looked OK to me. Come on - it's 43 yards - not much further than today's extra points. Nobody kicks a 43 yarder short.
As for Burton. I didn't know it initially occurred Friday - if it had happened in bed the night before then I'd tend to think it was more mental.
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Still stinks from here to high heaven:
The Bears made tight end Trey Burton a late addition to their injury report with a groin injury that would keep him from playing in the 16-15 season-ending loss to the Eagles.
Burton said on Monday he became aware of the issue last Friday and thought he would be able to push through it before waking up on Saturday to find things were “completely locked up.” He tried “everything possible” to loosen up, but it didn’t work out for him.
“I let my team down. I hate it,” Burton said, via the Chicago Tribune. “Especially going against one of my former teams. Playoff game. All the implications. It was tough.”
Burton has spoken about past issues with anxiety, including a December episode related to plans to have Burton throw a pass in a reprise of the “Philly Special.” Burton said he “couldn’t sleep that night thinking about it” and the Bears wound up having running back Tarik Cohen run the play instead.
Burton said he considered whether his issue on Wild Card weekend was a mental one, but felt he was in “a really good spot” mentally and that the reason for his absence from the lineup was purely physical.
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On the SCORE yesterday they had Patrick Mannely as a guest to analyze Parkey's kick.
Mannely said he obtained film not available to the public and reviewed it with 2 NFL or former NFL kickers (i'll bet one is Gould)
He said the kick was blocked which directed the ball left. The kickers told him there was something wrong with Parkey's approach and leg swing were not right, maybe he was trying to put extra into the kick. The trajectory of the ball was too low so the defender jumped only a few inches to block it.
They also played an interview with Burton from yesterday morning with several reporters.
Burton was saying there was practice Friday and Saturday morning his body was 'locked up" which is what happens when he is injured. He as asked various questions and didn't pinpoint any moment in practice where he knew he was hurt or even what the injury was.
He was asked if it was a mental issue which he denied. Later he was saying his body locked up when it senses danger or something like that.
He was very strange and vague. The commentators said he has a history of anxiety problems and wonder if that's what it was. The interview certainly didn't answer any questions.
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I know people have been clamoring for Robbie Gould to come back, myself included. But I am wondering how his kickoff distance has been since he was gone. As I recall when Pace let him go, besides making a ton of money, his kickoffs were on the short side.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/07/chicago-bears-cody-parkey-contract-philadelphia-eagles-wildcard-playoff-kicker/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline
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Teammates are what teammates do they have your back:
https://sports.yahoo.com/bears-fans-booed-cody-parkey-heartbreaking-fg-miss-teammates-humane-041657568.html
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BTW - don't wast your time watching that stupid movie.
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The other thing, I'm guessing they showed run cause it was an easy play when they scored..
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I still would take the scenario of 4th and goal with 1:00 minute left in game with our defense on the field for the win 100 out of 100 times.
That was the moment we had a chance to win the game and did not get it done.
I like the scenario (better) where the eagles were at midfield and our D should've stopped them back there. You're leaving out the part where it was 1st and goal and they had 4 chances to get it in. That's not a good spot to be in..
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Here ya go Bears fans:
from the Sun times:
ByMadeline Kenney
@madkenney | email
Think you would’ve made the Bears’ game-winning field goal? Well, now’s your chance to prove it.
Bears fans were quick to criticize kicker Cody Parkey on Sunday after he missed a 43-yard field goal attempt in the Bears’ 16-15 loss to the Eagles. Some have gone so far as to declare they would’ve made the kick — which by the way was actually tipped by Eagles defensive tackle Treyvon Hester.
Goose Island Brewing Co. believes that’s untrue and is willing to put a year of free beer on the line to prove outspoken Bears fans wrong.
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We outplayed the Eagles and lost. That makes me feel worse than being outplayed. After QB I gotta think kicker is the next most important position on a team. They dictate field position on kickoffs and made and missed FGs and more times than not the difference between winning and losing. When a QB shitz the bed on a series he can come back and be a hero. When a kicker misses a FG he may not get the chance to make up for that error.When you've got a good one don't let them get away.
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I still would take the scenario of 4th and goal with 1:00 minute left in game with our defense on the field for the win 100 out of 100 times.
That was the moment we had a chance to win the game and did not get it done.
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My God...
Yes, the Bears are different...completely different, which is why the results of last year's game don't mean a damn thing. How are you not getting this?
Let me repeat...the results of last year's game between the Eagles and the Bears does not mean a damn thing with regards to any meeting between the two teams this season.
Everyone gets this but you. Do not respond. I will delete any further dumbass remarks from you regarding this topic. It is closed.
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Apparently you are the moron who doesn't see the difference between a last place Bears team and a first place Bears team...no one is even talking about the Eagles having the same team as last year.
The Bears, however, are a completely different team...something your simpleton mind apparently doesn't grasp.
Who helps you log in?
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A friend of mine just told me that the field goal was listed as officially blocked. Don't know if the block materially affected the trajectory of the kick.
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Sportster is correct. The Eagles did have pretty much the same playoff team as they did last year. However, the Bears have a couple different players than last year's team that got killed by the Eagles; Mack, Nichols, Roquan Smith, Robinson, Burton (if he played), Gabriel, James Daniels...and a new head coach/offensive coordinator. But other than that it was the same Bears team.
I think this is just Sportster's way of dealing with the trauma of the loss.
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If Fangio leaves, I have no doubt that the Bear's D coordinator job will be the most appealing D coordinator position. Pace will have his choice of the top available candidates.
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The SCORE is saying Fangio is Denver's favorite candiate which is why Miami cancelled their interview with him.
There are interesting potential DCs like maybe Bolles.
Robinson had a bears post season receiving record.
Trubisky was 17-20 198 yards in the second half.
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Donnatel is out of contract - he didn't renew when Fangio did last year. But I believe if a coach is getting a promotion to HC or DC/OC they most of the time can get out of a contract as a lower level assistant.
We are assuming an NFL team offers Fangio and that Donnatel decides to leave a playoff-caliber team for a losing team under Fangio. Donatel is actually a year older than Fangio and if he wants to eventually be a HC too - you'd think he'd want a fast track to success rather than dealing with a long term project.
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You figure Fangio takes Donnatel as his DC wherever he goes....
Sometimes their contract doesn't allow taking the assistants
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Well, according to Dave 2 1/2 the Eagles weren't to be worried over..... right, Davey?
You are such an idiot. Do you truly not realize that last season’s results mean absolutely nothing this season? Are you truly that stupid?
The Eagles are a hot team, with a hot QB and on a hot streak. They were going to be a very tough opponent, but their success against the Bears last season had nothing to do with that at all. You are the only idiot who thought that, for whatever reason.
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You figure Fangio takes Donnatel as his DC wherever he goes....
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Not me I can't wait till next year.
Trubisky has improved so much an Nagy will be working with him on reading defenses decision making and working faster(I noticed on many plays Trubisky hesitated when receivers were open and the defense defended the pass)
Pace will tweak the roster Nagy will learn from his mistakes and they will start off a better team.
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If Fangio goes, then why can't Donnatell become the Bears DC instead of going to wherever?
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There isn't a darn thing any of us can do about the loss. Yes the sun still rose today. But put me in the camp of "That a was a disappointing loss, and we could easily not even make the playoffs next season".. Oh well, fukk football!! Until next season anyway..
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Yeah I was thinking Mack likes the big stage, he is going to have a monster game. But not so much. I still think he was over concerned about the 2 pt play he was in on.
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Interesting how Trubisky was more accurate after he got hurtand stayed in the pocket......apparently because he couldn't scramble much.
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Everyone had to realize the Eagles would be tough. I for one honestly thought the Bears would handle them, win by 10. I was certain the Eagles couldn't blow the Bears out. I'm not totally surprised about losing a close one. One thing is certain, someone has to win and someone has to lose. I'll be surprised if the Saints don't handle these guys, not easily, but fairly. The Eagles are on a roll, they're confident for sure.. We just didn't play all that well, for at least the first 3 1/2 quarters. I still want to know where Mack was, 'cause he was a no show (Julius Peppers like)..
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If the Bears decide to slip Coward to RT, I'd like to think that keeping both Amos and Callahan is doable. I want to resign Massie, but even at his age, I think there will be teams that can pay more than the Bears are able/willing to.
I believe the offense will get better next year. The key is to get lucky with the injuries.
If the Bears are not able to keep Fangio (and Donatell if he follows him as his DC), then they gotta hit with the next guy (Bowles, etc.).
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Listened to Golic on ESPN this morning on the way to work - they were talking to Chicago' Tom Waddle about the long Miller catch over LeBlanc and subsequent fumble.
Initially ruled an incomplete pass but after review if was ruled a catch, but since the ref picked up the ball before anyone attempted to pick it up - it reverted back to incomplete pass? Or no play?
The announcers didn't understand why it wasn't Bears ball at the point of the fumble since it was never recovered. Huge play. I thought the Bears caught a break since I did not see Miller's knee hit the ground before the fumble.
Somewhat reminds me of the Bears/Packers NFC championship game where a ball was just sitting on the field.
Even the Eagles D thought it was Bears ball down there. Strange play...
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But at least we have a QB and a head coach who knows how to use him. That has been the missing piece for so long. Now they just need to take the next step, and we need to get lucky with injuries again.
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What if more of the 10-15 passes Foles tossed up off his back foot to have a WR run under them and make the catch gets picked off?
Good point. Many here are criticizing the Bears for not getting to Foles more...meaning more sacks.
Bears had pressure on him throughout the game but Foles rarely held the ball for more than several seconds. And it was incredible how accurate he was with someone in his face. Unlike Kirk Cousins, he didn't wilt.
He also has quite a bit of trust with his receivers: Jeffery, Agholor, Ertz, Sproles and Goedert. I really really miss Jeffery...his catch on 3rd and 9 when Amukamora was laying back in the end zone was huge.
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Don't take much to lose. As a Bear fan you should know this. Just draft badly, get the wrong FA's, wrong QB, wrong coaches and wala.....the Bears of the last friggin decade or so.... It's much harder to put together the right formula for success than it is to be stupid and throw together a hodgepodge mess and hope it works. Destruction is much easier than construction...
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.....like having a bad kicker
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many factors go into winning in this league....
And the same number go into losing in this league....
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Just made my point.... Bears have a shot at it again next season IF a lot of things go their way. Or possible even if most things go their way. They're in the strongest position going into a offseason we've seen in some time but players come and go and can we hold on to the key ones and is Fangio staying and can they find a kicker actually worth what they pay him and and....many factors go into winning in this league....
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There are so many factors that go into a winning season, a huge one being lucky with injuries and another having the ball bounce your way.
The same could be said for each and every game. Luck plays a factor in all things.
What if more of the 10-15 passes Foles tossed up off his back foot to have a WR run under them and make the catch gets picked off?
What if they ruled the catch/fumble replay the correct way on the field and the Bears have the Ball at the 5 yard line before half?
What if they don't score on 4th down?
What if Parkey were cut a long time ago like fans wanted?
What if he makes the FG?
What if they didn't give the Eagles the TO to ice him?
What if the Bears converted on their 2 point attempt?
What if the Eagle did get that second foot/knee in bounds on the INT and that was a turnover?
What if Parky makes the OT field goal earlier in the year and the Bears didn't even have to play this weekend and they were on the bye?
What if Fuller holds onto the INT in the first game of the season to ice the GB game?
What if they didn't get one little finger tip on the second kick for the win?
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A bar called Packers didn't make it.
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Okay time for a joke...
I bear fan walks into a bar...
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Unfortunately, I don't think the NFL is like the NBA. Massie will be 30 next year, so this may be his last chance for a big contract.
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There are so many teams needing kickers I'm predicting someone panics and drafts one in the fourth round starting a run.
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Well, according to Dave 2 1/2 the Eagles weren't to be worried over..... right, Davey?
Last season means exactly jack ****.
Eagles won't be a pushover. They whipped the Bears last season.-Sporty How in hell is that relevant? -Davey 2 1/2
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You never know about FAs. Sometimes it isnt all about the money and they just want an opportunity for a ring and like where the team is heading, but I dont hold much hope on FAs this year. Truthfully, like Massie, I think if they approach him in the right way he might do an extension and stay.
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The only way to deal with injuries aside from training practices is to upgrade your back ups. Bears dodged a bullet this season at CB and offensive tackle.
Bears don't have 1st or 2nd rounder but Pace has been fortunate in the 4th and 5th rounds. Maybe some more free agents might be inclined to sign with the Bears though there probably isn't a lot of cap to sign any impact guys.
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Agree, Hiber. The Bears have a history of this and yeah yeah history don't matter bs whatever, but it does matter. Fangio could get a HC job and that turns the D totally upside down. There are so many factors that go into a winning season, a huge one being lucky with injuries and another having the ball bounce your way. Next season, the balls could bounce to the other team. The int's may not be there. Mack could get injured or Hicks. To say yeah they'll be back is to totally lack understanding of what it really takes to get there in the first place.....I said the Eagles were going to be tough, they weren't going to be a cakewalk and that the Bears might lose. Nahhhhh...Bears take this....
how's that thinking today??.....
There isn't ONE regular here that thought the Bears would win in a cake walk. Most of us were confident that they could win. But aside from a running back, and a couple of DBs, this was the same team that won the Super Bowl last year. The Eagles have won five of their last 6 beating Houston and the Rams in LA.
Yeah, a cake walk.
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Besides having to stay healthy next year we re going to have to play all of the other division winners, which wont be as easy next year. Plus we have no first or second round pick in the draft, which kind of stinks.
We NEED to keep Fangio, get Anthony Miller fixed up, and get rid of Pukey and sign Robbie Gould to come back. He was supposed to be at the game last night with his kids. Come on Pace, fix the wrong you did with Gould....
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Of course, nothing is guaranteed next year. Not for the Bears. Not for any team. However I would rather go into the season with next year's roster and another year's experience behind them than go into the season with this year's roster and lacking that extra year's experience.
Football, like life, is a game of probabilities. I would rather start out with the probabilities working for me than against me.
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Agree, Hiber. The Bears have a history of this and yeah yeah history don't matter bs whatever, but it does matter. Fangio could get a HC job and that turns the D totally upside down. There are so many factors that go into a winning season, a huge one being lucky with injuries and another having the ball bounce your way. Next season, the balls could bounce to the other team. The int's may not be there. Mack could get injured or Hicks. To say yeah they'll be back is to totally lack understanding of what it really takes to get there in the first place.....I said the Eagles were going to be tough, they weren't going to be a cakewalk and that the Bears might lose. Nahhhhh...Bears take this....
how's that thinking today??.....
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Listened to Golic on ESPN this morning on the way to work - they were talking to Chicago' Tom Waddle about the long Miller catch over LeBlanc and subsequent fumble.
Initially ruled an incomplete pass but after review if was ruled a catch, but since the ref picked up the ball before anyone attempted to pick it up - it reverted back to incomplete pass? Or no play?
The announcers didn't understand why it wasn't Bears ball at the point of the fumble since it was never recovered. Huge play. I thought the Bears caught a break since I did not see Miller's knee hit the ground before the fumble.
Somewhat reminds me of the Bears/Packers NFC championship game where a ball was just sitting on the field.
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Heard there's a gofundme to buyout his contract. Heck, I'd throw a couple in the hat....they absolutely cannot go into next season with that sucker on their payroll. Don't think it's possible anyway as the fans want to lynch him.
Yeah, a lot of us could and would chip in, but thats not the issue. I am not in disagreement that a go fund me page will be started. I just believe the league wouldnt allow it because it would circumvent the cap rules in place. As for the money, the McCaskeys have the money. We know that, we arent morons you know. Its the cap issue.. The league would fight that tooth and nails.
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If you watch the video of the last kick in slow motion, Daniels crumpled and the defensive player got a hand on the ball.
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Cannot say it enough, nothing is guaranteed for next year. Trubisky could get a season ending injury in the preseason, you just never know. The Jags thought this was their year, it wasn't. Do we have good young team, yeap for sure, but it does not mean we will be back. Too many factors, the stars have to align.
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This team will be better next year unless injuries destroy them.
Bears lost against Carolina in the playoffs and went to the SB the next year. They lost to the Niners then went to the SB and won it in 85.
I am optimistic about their future. Be pissed at the loss. But these aren't your same old Bears.
They are a very young team and should get better. No guarantees but the arrow is pointing up.
Trubisky in his third year and second year in this offense? A whole off season with the same WR's and working things out? The offense should be a lot better next year.
I saw a Nagy interview today where he said when they were installing the offense Trubisky didn't know all the defenses so couldn't absorb what he was supposed to do against them. Now he knows those defenses and what he is supposed to do. Now imagine a whole offseason of cementing what and where he is supposed to go with the ball against each defense on each play.
I think Trubisky is going to be a top 10 QB in the league for a long time. He hasn't peaked. He is just beginning to scratch the surface of how good he can be.
The D should remain good to excellent. Smith was a rookie and missed training camp. He should be better next year.
A kicker that makes the FG's he is supposed to? Yeah we will have that.
I bet we draft one if nothing is available in the offseason. Althugh I hear Goulde is available.
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From the Trib, a excerpt.....next seasons success is not promised and we've seen it before...so this loss really really sucks.
>>But the football gods often operate with a “Nothing is ever easy” ruthlessness. So rather than allow a fun-filled journey up the NFL mountain to continue, they hit the Bears with an avalanche, sending them back to the bottom, left to start the climb all over again in eight months.
That added to the heaviness in the locker room. The Bears had a genuine belief they could win the Super Bowl in four weeks.
“That’s what makes this so hard,” Robinson said. “Our season just ended. And now coming back here next year, everything is going to be twice as hard. I can tell you that much. … One of my old coaches always told me, the better you play, the better you have to play.
“I know that for a fact. Coming in next year, we’re going to have to be twice as good in OTAs as we were this year, twice as good in camp and twice as good during the regular season.”
Even then, nothing will be promised.
In the NFL, even when a window appears to be opening for a team, it can slam shut with the swiftness and finality of a guillotine blade.
In 2001, the Bears enjoyed a similar season to this, a surprising worst-to-first leap. That Bears team, like this one, won games in so many different ways. That Bears team, like this one, won the division. That Bears team, like this one, charged into the postseason on a four-game winning streak.
And then that Bears team lost its playoff opener. At home. To the Eagles.
The Bears lost a dozen times the next season and didn’t get back to the playoffs for three more years after that.
The Super Bowl Bears of 2006 thought they would have many more chances to replace the gut-punch of a 29-17 loss to the Colts with a feeling of pure euphoria. The franchise, though, made it back to the postseason just once in the next 11 years.
Now? The Bears’ drought without a playoff victory will enter Year 9.
“This hurts, man,” Trevathan said. “It really does. We had so many chances to execute and couldn’t get it done.”
He shook his head in disbelief. In one cruel moment, everything had ended. By midweek, Halas Hall will be empty.
“When you lose,” Nagy said, “the next day, it’s like a bomb hits and everyone is gone.”
There’s just no way.
dwiederer@chicagotribune.com
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Parkey supposedly has 9 million guaranteed money. parting with him isnt going to be easy
Heard there's a gofundme to buyout his contract. Heck, I'd throw a couple in the hat....they absolutely cannot go into next season with that sucker on their payroll. Don't think it's possible anyway as the fans want to lynch him.
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The kicking has been a clusterf*ck all season. It cost a first round bye and now a playoff game. Anyone could have seen it coming. This BS narrative that “there’s no one out there...”. There had to be someone out there who could make a 35 yard FG.
The defense played well enough to win...Trubisky played great when it counted, some beautiful, clutch 4th quarter passes....had us right there for the winning kick.
Sh*t....
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Parkey supposedly has 9 million guaranteed money. parting with him isnt going to be easy
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Not sure why teams look at kickers as chump change. I think Parkey is every bit as important as Mack is. He actually puts points on the board, except tonight when he was needed. Mack didn't do much all game and Parkey could have been the difference, SHOULD have been, really. He made the first and shanked the second. Not sure how they got that TO in to stop him like that because it looked like it was a good play. But they gave em the TO. But there was a lot of bad this game. Trubisky not keeping drives going, the D letting the Eagles march downfield, for whatever reason getting away from running Howard, some of the stupid play calling again and once again, a doink off the uprights for the umpteenth time this season. Parkey will be kicking his pet poodle during next season. Who's going to want him? In a game that mattered the most, the worst of the Bears showed up and upended everything....
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I've seen some pics that show Parkey was blocked. That changes the narrative a little. I wasn't happy with Nagy's play calling. I think he was a little too cute once again. Trubisky had a good game for his first playoff experience, I think it would hurt much more if the loss was on him.
I still see this season as an overwhelming success and a huge step forward. I'm excited to see how the offense performs in year two.
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Feels like when the Bears lost to the Niners in the play offs. Came back strong the next year.
We all know how that ended up.
They will re-focus and be better next year. Trubisky and the WR's get another year in the offense. Hopefully we keep Fangio.
If not surely there is someone on the staff who can step up.
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The salary cap will be going up again so it should be doable.
I really hate to second guess but when you lose by one point I begin to wonder if those two point plays with the defensive players who aren't used to blocking and catching and handing the ball off tackle to a small WR is really worth it.
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Yes to all 3 of those guys...
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Don't diss tbe defense today. They gave up 16 points to a team that won the Super Bowl with almost this exact same offensive lineup. Oh yeah, they also had two interceptions. And gave up about 40 something yards rushing .
Bears offense scored one TD and kicked 3 fields goals for 15 points. Eagles had the best red zone defense and it showed. Losing Burton was big as the Bears really don't have any big time receivers like Jeffery and Ertz, though Robinson showed he's pretty close. And Shaheen was over drafted in the 2nd round - he's tall but he has no speed and doesn't pose a threat to the defense.
As for Trubisky I didn't see him missing a lot of open receivers out there. Sure he could have made more plays but he didn't get a whole lot of help from the run game. How many times did we face 2nd and 10 or 2nd and 11?
Parkey will get all the blame and he should get most of it but our offense needed to put up more points but just didn't have the firepower to take advantage of the Eagles secondary and the Bears O-line excellent protection. Keep Long and re-sign Massey....and Callahan too.
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Philly had 7-8 in the box more often than not. Hard to pound it up the middle when the D is stacked like that...
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I agree, no more nail biting. Yeah, fukk Burton,WTF? Last minute he has a groin pull?
Once again, no fukking run game.. All the talking heads that picked Philly were spot on. No playoff experience (showed in the first 3 quarters), no run game, and a QB that isn't there..
We just lost to a team that really isn't all that good. Last season they were a much better team..
I still say the D didn't have a good game either. They held them to two touchdowns and a field goal, but they couldn't stop 'em on 3rd down when it counted... Pathetic. Again, where the hell was Mack?
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I mean to hit a light post is amazing. Each time it bounces off left? WTF? Maybe try and kick it down the middle.
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Watching comcast postgame show with Briggs, Wanny Forte and A. Brown.
They showed a practice video of Parkey kicking and hitting a light post over and over and over each time it bounces off left.
Maybe the dumbass shouldn't have practiced like that...
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Oh I would drop off Burton with Parkey, in a dark alley. I am really pisssed at both of them right now. The good news is I no longer have to give a shiit about the rest of the playoffs.
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Pace has to draft a kicker or get a UDFA
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I think that Mack was thinking about his play on O, the two point conversion, instead of making plays on D. That was stupid on Nagy's part. If Vic leaves, our D will take a step back next year, and we will be rebuilding on D next year. Sigh. As much as I would drive Parkey out of town, or drop him off at a project in Cabrini Green, that Mfer hit SIX CROSSBARS this year. Has ANY kicker in the NFL EVER EVER EVER hit 6 crossbars in a SINGLE season? No, there has never been a douche so bad.
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Yeah not having those two was huge.
WTF is up with Burton?
Worried about his future money making in Philly after he retires?
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You spelled "torture" wrong.
NO, I meant tenure, meaning length of time as a Bear
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They really missed Burton and I really think Eddie Jackson would have pickef off one of those floaters.
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It was a weird game because the two coaches know each other and each others playbook so well. They coached together for 7 years.
I think that added a dynamic that was under reported and was a large factor in the game.
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I think the Bears tried to open up the offense in the 2nd half
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I hope this ends the Parkay tenure
You spelled "torture" wrong.
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The offense was always going to be this team's downfall. You can't win with just defense anymore. Trubisky isn't very good at the moment and there is no running game. Plus, the coaching staff plays conservative football in an era of high-powered offense.
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I hope this ends the Parkay tenure
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For Parkey's sake I hope he is cut.
Seriously.
I fear for his well being. Dude needs to get the fuck out of town.
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My 13 year old son cried. I laughed. Glad I am not Parkey. He is not sleeping tonight.
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We all knew he would miss it.
Yep! Only a homer thought otherwise
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This shouldn't have come down to a kick. Our offense sucked, and where the hell was Mack? I'm not surprised after seeing the way this team came out to start the game. Our offense was really bad especially the first 3 quarters. Mostly I'm disappointed in our D, they let us down when we needed them at the end. If they don't cut Parkey tomorrow then they all need to be shot..
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We all knew he would miss it.
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Dang,
Kinda laughed cause it hurt so much.
We all knew Parkey would lose the playoffs for us, just did not think the first round at home.
Eagles played well. However I do think our offensive playacting was a bit overthought. Same as the KC playoff game loss last year.
Nagy really needs to learn how to wear a defense down with a RB. Maybe Howard is not the guy, but we better find someone who is that guy. Because if it just the coach's preference to call passing plays, we will never win the SuperBowl.
Mack played poorly this game. Hick's and Trevathan our the defensive MVP's.
We have no 1st or 2nd round pick in draft and our cap space is not overwhelmingly great. We better win it all next year, otherwise our window may not be as big as some think.
Draft K in the 7th!!
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Bears lost because they have a terrible kicker.
I actually told my wife they will drive down the field and he will miss it.
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Fuck...Parkey. One job - and that is to make kicks.
I felt the D was off and little pass rush. I felt Nagy put too much confidence in the D.
Nagy's play calling on O was off.
That 2 point conversion miss by the Bears was .
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I will never take back the fact you are a troll.
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Wrong on all fronts, Pekin. Just stop while you're behind.
The Bears pi-ssed away this game. You wanna argue against that, or go with the troll malarky again?
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You are a troll you came here dissing the Bears the entire game.
Who does that? You aren't a Bears fan. Are you even a football fan?
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Sadly, not surprised. That suckers been doing that all season and we knew we couldn't count on him in the playoffs. Number one need next year-a reliable kicker. Get Gould back
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Feel free to back your troll claim, Pekin. You said something stupid. Again, go direct your anger elsewhere. Maybe the refs for a change...or the millionth time.
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Bears win it all next year.
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Fuucking Parkey just cost us a chance to move on in the playoffs. Mother Fuucker. Pace, whatever it takes, cut Parkey and sign Gould back.
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My wife is just fine and so am I.
I unlike you do not troll other teams boards to get some high from putting others down.
The fact you do this to find joy in your pathetic life says way more about you then it does about anyone being frustrated with their teams loss.
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Lost on a Double Doink. Helluva way to go out.
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We all knew it would happen been saying it all year
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Poor Parkey is going to get his ass kicked in every bar he ever goes to in Chicago. He better hope they cut him so he can get out of town.
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Go take your frustration out on your wife, not me.
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Pekin, you represent too many football fans too well. Overly emotional, not bright, big-mouthed.
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Chris go fuck yourself your trolling piece of shit!
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Fucking Parkey!
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Get an offense.
And a coach.
Kicker would help too.
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Of course
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earn yur pay kid
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Again...here we go...
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told ya. God help all bear fans
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Nagy screwed up not calling another time out that series.1
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That assumes Mr. #2 can get them down the field.
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it will come down to the bear kicker
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A good season for a team that was supposed to go nowhere. The best is yet to come.
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Damn...
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Well, the season comes down to just this one play. Stop them and you win. Fail to stop them and you lose.
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Here we go!
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they get a td bears down 2. they aint goin for a fg
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right down the field .
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Ugh! Wrap up!
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See how their TE fights for yards. Ours never do that.
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terrible punt. bears f ucked
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LET'S GO D!!!
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Great our punter shanks it.
This game!
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Why did Cohen run out of bounds?
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He likes to just throw them up and hope his WR comes down with them.
It was working in the first half for him and got him some BS PI calls.
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Foles is begging to get intercepted again.
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Yes sir!!!
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DA BEARS!!!
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3 man rush on 3rd and 10?
Come on Vic!
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I gotta wonder if the bears have been setting this up all game . I don't claim to be a coach at all, but if the bears
done it, the eagles will to. C'mon guys!
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Over and over he blocked for the pass to the WR screen. Trubisky pump fakes and Bellamy heads up field wide open.
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Three big time throws by Mitch on that drive...
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The play to Bellamy was a total set up.
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LOL
The Bears finally make a few non-conservative plays and nice throws and the sarcasm comes out. That should be directed at the coach.
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BEARSSSSS!!!!!!!!
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Great dump passes that drive!
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Who is being out coached?
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TD BEARS!!!
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Nagy's being outcoached!
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Can't get enough of those dump passes that go nowhere.
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BTW, Howard has 7 carries for 19 yards outside of the 12-yd draw the Eagles didn't care about.
Go draft Jacobs.
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BOOM!
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Team ain't going anywhere in the future unless Trubisky starts earning that #2 pick cred. The days of "managing" your way to a title are over.
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Why wouldn't they? They were getting them earlier for nothing.
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Who here would not have been satisfied with this team hosting a playoff game before the season started?
The future is bright.
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Philly WRs looking for a flag on every play...
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Not letting it ruin my day. 1 I still think we win and 2 if they don't we still have a very bright future.
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I don’t know how that wasn’t pass interference
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Need a 3 and out here to win back the field position battle...
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Twice now he has killed drives by not getting a first down when it was there for the taking.
All he had to do was not jump. Just barrel through the DB.
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I've moved past pissed on to enraged. the nfl can blow me.
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Shaheen is the softest TE I have ever seen. He always goes down like a butterfly.
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Seriously? No flag there?
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Why no flag. He was there before the ball.
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Eat a dick, “sporty”...
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Not sure why we aren't lining up Mack on the other side from time to time.
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Could see that comng a miled away. Philly in the superbowl of course. shi t calls and tackling the bear defense.
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Foles magic my ass. Getting jobbed left and right here. Bears need to step up. This team is beatable
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We have to get more pressure on Foles. He has entirely too much time.
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Fk yerself, dave....like you always do....
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Are we playing Green Bay? They can hold our D-line and if there is hand fighting it is PI? But only for them?
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Good.
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Think I said to beware of the Eagles.....now, you see why....
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I'm out....they're going to blow this game....
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oh for God sakes !
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BULLSHIT... D-Line getting mugged and no flags!!!
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Terrible call!
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Pfffft!
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So I guess tackling Mack is ok?
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come on d!
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I hate what the league has become.
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stupid penalty.
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Stupid!
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FUCK!
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Going to be the D that wins this, if they do...
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Another wasted drive...
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Keep stacking first downs!
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Foles looks like he made a miraculous recovery.
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Hoping for a super boring Bears win now please.
Nailed it.
Wierdest play was the Miller/non catch that was a catch play.
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I am f ucking sick of "mystery" injuries. And having to rely on that kicker to win is a death sentence at some point.
Foles needs to get his ass crunched up but good. Get to work 52!!
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GO BEARS!!!
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Take it right down the field for a TD and never look back!
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Fucck Trey Burton, put me down for saying it right now....
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I think Jackson is active to play in case his back up gets hurt.
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And put me down for running Howard, and then run him some more. Get him 20+ carries in the second half please.
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Same feelings about Burton. Something about both those deals rubs me the wrong way.
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And so much for having Jackson available, since we are not playing him. If he isnt ready I understand, but still. I dont have a good feeling about the rest of this game. Just saying.
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Exactly. Gotta run him to tire the D out. Need to get Howard the ball coming out of the half.
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Ok we got screwed on that Miller pass to the 5. Thanks refs for not calling a catch a catch.
And I am so pisssed at Trey Burton. First he tells Nagy he isnt "comfortable" running the Philly Special, then he "mysteriously" gets a groin injury the night before we play them? NFW, he is a pusssy and I am really ticked. And put me down for wanting to see Mack earn his pay. He usually shows up in the big games, but he has done nothing so far. Lets hope he is saving it up for the second half. Hit Foles, and PLEASE hit him hard.
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Twelve of those yards were on that last draw when the Eagles weren't worried about the run.
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Run Howard up the middle and attack the middle of the field passing. That is the key to success against this defense.
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Howard 5 attempts for 25 yards. 5 yard average.
Why are we not pounding Howard up the middle??
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Parkey always looks like he’s about to break into a million shards of glass. Or a smoking pile of dust.
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Dear God that was awful on the offense
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I stand by my pre-game prediction. The Bears win by two scores when it is all said and done.
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Smart TO by Beagles. Parkey is as shaky as they come
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6-3 BEARS!
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Crazy to watch football 50 plus years and have a call you have never seen affect the first playoff game in eight years...
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You two should get a room...
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hold your breath
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Good grief... Get the lead at least
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Kick the field goal take a 6-3 lead into the half.
We get the ball to start the half.
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TRU! Knock it off!!!!
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Another INT Trubisky's lucky not to have.
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W T H? Should be Bears ball
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First down!
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What a clusterfuck.
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Now they say incomplete.
Wrong call techinically. But the right call in the real world.
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This is too funny lol
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LOL
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WOW!
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No way they give the Bears the ball there? Is there?
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Incredible play by Leblanc. Remember that one.
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Helluva catch by Miller. Just couldn't hang on...
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We need at least 3 before the half. Then we get the ball second half.
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Aaand they give it to Cunningham WHY?? Stupid
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DAMN!!!
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Nice! We needed that.
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Finally hitting the middle of the field. Been open all day.
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philly coach and Nagy were on the same staff. Doug knows Matt
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Not sure why they give Mizzel so many snaps.
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D starting to tighten up. But once again we're getting fukked by our QB play
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Not sure why they aren't pounding Howard. Need to get him going
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Offense is looking totally inept
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Finally a Eagles punt
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Bears hanging on by fingernails.
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Agree, Chris. He has done that several times. Ridiculous
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I'll be very surprised if they win this...
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Has Trubisky kept a pass in bounds all year on those deep outs to the sideline?
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Another terrible throw by Tru. Fk...
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Nice punt.
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f uck. out of bounds
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Fricking Trubisky!! I'm hating these play calls. Howard is north south so they run him wide. They need to pound him up the middle!!!
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Trubisky has to be smarter then that though!
We are missing Burton. We need a TE going up the middle.
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How much did they give up to get Trubisky?
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I saw that in real speed. How the ref called that a catch I'll never know. He was right there.
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incomplete
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One foot down. Challenge it.
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He was out of bounds!
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Needed that badly...
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One of those floaters had to get picked
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You can't keep throwing as your getting hit and keep getting lucky.
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int
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There we go!
He was going to throw one sooner or later.
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Mack needs to earn his check here....
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Foles is pn fire. Need a better pass rush
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Eagles making some crazy plays. This is a playoff tested team and yeah, it f'ing matters...
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bears going down if something doesn't change fast. getting beat on both sides of the ball.
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He is like Rodgers just throws it up and somehow they come down with it no matter what. WTF?
How does Tate hold onto that?
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Foles making us look like a shit team
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Foles has floated a couple balls, they should be int
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Jordan Howard 3 attempts for 12 yards. That will not win championships.
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3-3!
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3-3
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Now mitch is hurt
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Eagles D is Dm good...
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Yeah well 31 teams can say that.
31 teams passed on Mahomes?
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Nagy needs to RUN THE BALL
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In FG range if we had a reliable kicker...
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He went hands to the face TWICE and after the play right in front of the ref. Pretty much have to call it.
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Conservative play-calling with a mediocre QB is a real recipe for championships. God, we could've had Mahomes.
Yeah well 31 teams can say that.
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Need a TD here..
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Clusterf of a offense. Need to move the ball!
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So much for the ref conspiracy.
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Yes
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bears can't even get a first down
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Why throw the ball to a place where they can't get a first down
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Conservative play-calling with a mediocre QB is a real recipe for championships. God, we could've had Mahomes.
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Another terrible play call...wth
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Nice!!! Now friggin make something of it!!!
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This is looking terrible!!
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every play bears will get f ucked in the ass
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Down by contact.. Fukk!
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There we go!
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Crowd needs to make some fricking noise!!!
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How do they leave Jeffery open like that?
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Why do I have an irrational hatred of the traitor alshon Jeffrey?
Agree!
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Not looking good
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Why do I have an irrational hatred of the traitor alshon Jeffrey?
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Looks like the league wants the Philly Cinderella story.
D is going to have to make a statement and not let the refs decide it.
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Man, what did I say about this game?!? Not going good here
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hope nobody bet the mortgage payment. right down the field again.
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WTF kind of spot was that?!
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Get 33 out of the f'ing game.
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WTF? Terrible spot!
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Holding in the end zone!
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Excellent field position and nothing. Terrible... This could get away from them if they don't get something on the board soon.
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Need a QB that can make plays.
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this is starting to scream clusterf uck
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Have to hold them here
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This is not going good...not liking the feel of this
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these 2 coaches know each other. down 3 already
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D gave up some big chunks of yardage on that opening drive..
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Floyd!!
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Right down the field. Not good
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I like the Bears chances also,but,they're gonna need one of the backup TEs to step up. Go Bears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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GO BEARSSS!!!
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If the Bears take care of the ball and don't turn it over they win easily.
If they throw INT's and fumble more then once they will be in a close one.
I think they win by two scores.
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I can't believe at my age I'm as wound up as I am over a stupid game..... but I am. I guess some things never do change. GO BEARS!!!!!!!!
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Should be a good game the Pats vs the Chargers. Hoping for a super boring Bears win now please.
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wound up tighter than a $2 watch. Chargers letting the Ravens back in it. They just might pull it off.
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GO BEARS!!!
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I bought my victory pizza so I have confidence the Bears win
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Really hurts to not have Burton.. WTF?
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Hopefully the bears have a good day. I hate watching games
Drinking coffee. Watching the blowing up of the entire
Raven organization before my eyes. Horrible play by Jackson
And flacco rots on the bench. Awful
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Hopefully Shaheen has a big day.
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Trey Burton inactive today, Eddie Jackson IS active.
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Burton, White and Wims are inactive
Jackson is active
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Is Corey Graham considered a starter? Then there is the french man Craven LebLanc. Wasn't Deiondre' Hall a Bear
3 ex Bears
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Not looking good for the Ravens, and that doesnt bother me at all.
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3 fumbles in two possessions.
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Ravens are determined to give the ball away. Geez!
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I guess Corey Graham is back so only 2 corners out.
Just heard the Eagles are regarded as having a good run defense because they average only allowing 97 yards.
However they average giving up 4.7 yards per carry and teams running the ball at least 20 times have beaten the eagles every time.
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Yep. Eagle have a lot of GREAT football players: Cox, Foles, Jeffery, Ertz + others
The area we need to exploit are their corners. Two backups. I heard one analyst say he does not like either corner. Eagles secondary is missing 3 starters.
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It was a week ago I said Eagles are the team I didn't want to see, but here we are. Foles is like the rest, rough him up, and often.. The only scenario that I would be surprised with is if we get spanked. Anything else won't surprise me.
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Waiting is the hardest part. Cant start drinking beer too soon or I wont remember the game. lol. Bear down and lets hope for a great outcome!!!
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It’s the only pro playoffs where it’s one and done...
Only if you lose..
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Beardown my friends! Today is the day!
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Trey Burton groin injury, wth??? We are going to need ALL of our weapons to win today....
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It’s the only pro playoffs where it’s one and done...
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I love Bears playoff games...but it's nerve racking.
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Playoff Football is the best... I love March madness,,, but it doesn't get any better than this (unless we lose, LOL)
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Experience is over rated. Talent wins the games.
Big part of me agrees.. But another part knows that the playoffs seem to speed up a notch and become a bit more intense. With that said, this is the best I've felt about football in Chicago in a long time..
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Coaching is THE force multiplier. It takes talent and utilizes it better (see Fangio the way he's using Mack, Roquan et al. and Nagy's use of Cohen)....
One thing that I always loved about football is that it is a true team game. Ten guys on the field can do their job perfectly but if one does not that one can be the reason a play (and season) fails.
What excites me so much about this team (above the fact that they have a pulse and are genuinely interesting) is that they really seem to be playing for EACH OTHER as much as themselves. A good example is look at when a player who outside of Chicago goes out and has a good play (Bellamy, McManus) and EVERYONE is patting them on the back on the sideline and just enjoying the moment. Its happened multiple times this season and is a good indicator of where this team locker room is....
They do not know how good they can be (yet). The best is yet to come........
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Experience is over rated. Talent wins the games.
But when talent is close to even, experience usually wins.
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Jackson practiced
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/03/chicago-bears-injury-report-eddie-jackson-nfl-playoffs-eagles-wild-card/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline
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Been 8 years since we've been in the playoffs. Lost to the Pack in the championship game... So it's easy to understand the apprehension. The eagles are playing good ball right now, but so are the Bears. There would be a lot more talk about Superbowl if they had the "experience"..
Experience is over rated. Talent wins the games.
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Eddie Jackson is a game time decision.
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I think we beat the Eagles at home, but lose on the road to the Rams. It will be our youth and the fact we do not play very well on the road.
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Been 8 years since we've been in the playoffs. Lost to the Pack in the championship game... So it's easy to understand the apprehension. The eagles are playing good ball right now, but so are the Bears. There would be a lot more talk about Superbowl if they had the "experience"..
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Me too.....very nervous.
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Like all the optimism here and yeah, No.2 for a reason I'd agree. The biggest factors I see complicating things is lack of having been there, done that. Pressure of the game could get to them. Perhaps too much success too fast? This team looked like the reincarnation of the 85 team in that first game first half against the Pack, then they blew it. Youth and inexperience are perhaps what could derail them. But honestly....my issue is I'm afraid to hope. Having been let down so often by this team, I'm nervous.
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Assuming Trubisky is the real deal - I think the offense could add a deep threat WR, a complete running back, and another offensive lineman. But I think they can win with the current talent base offensively but offense still ranked 21st.
BTW, Mack, Fuller and Jackson were just voted all-pros.
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I’m wondering how good this O can be with another offseason together. I think they are just scratching the surface.
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I agree beerfan. We could just as easily be 16-0. I'll say early on we lost to GB because we lacked a culture of winning. Do not take your foot off the throat of your beaten opponent. I think now maybe the team and Nagy understands that. Play to win not to lose. It never worked for us before. The only thing prevent strategy prevents is a victory. Go Bears!
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We lost the Giants game because Daniel was rattled - the Giants DC said we had film on him after his first game and we knew how to rattle him.
We actually could have won every game this season....GB game. Miami game the NFL and Miami made the Bears stand on the sidelines in in 105 degree heat. The New England game we had kickoff return against us for a TD - you F-ing kicker can't kick it into the endzone? Plus that same game we had a blocked punt for a TD
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Grizz do you think maybe we lost to the Giants because Chase Daniels was QB more than their run game. That friggin guy has no where with all to sense pressure or the athleticism to escape and extend the play and make positive yardage. With Trubisky we would have beat the Giants hands down.With the 4 losses we sustained we lost by a total of 14 pts and two of those were in OT. and the Pats 7pt. win was nearly overcome by a last second hail mary. I would say this team has risen to the top of the league. I don't see any team we can't beat if healthy. I won't say we'll win it all,but,no one better take us lightly at their own peril. I'll predict a fairly low scoring victory this week against the Eagles in the line of 17 - 10. There I said it and I'm glad!
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Something else. You know all these gimicky plays that Nagy tries and we all bitch about? I'd be willing to bet that somewhere that is going to payoff big. Although I would rather not see us try some of that shit.. LOL
Run Howard, pound the ball. Give me a 26 play drive for a touchdown leaving Foles on the bench to watch. Eagles have the 23rd rank defense. We just beat a top 5 D.
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Ain't that the truth. Two very winnable games..
Power rankings have us at #2 for a reason. We have a good team. Can we be beat? Anyone can be beat on any given day. Eagles are tough.. My bet is we're tougher.. Eagles have good wideouts, but can their O line handle our D line? That's the question.. And Pederson's no dumbass.. Though I will say. As the season has progressed, so has Nagy..
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Unless Pederson has something new up his sleeve, the Eagles are who they are with Foles. No running game, which plays to our strength. Abandon the run and let our front 7 batter your offensive line and push them back into Foles. Hold the ball 2.5 ticks to allow the deep pass to develop and feel the pressure. I know this is the Eagles and I know they beat us last year and are the returning champs and Foles is the wonderboy… but not this year. The Giants beat us with a solid running attack, a pick 6, and a trick play. The Dolphins beat us with a running attack, spreading the defense out, and withering heat. Green Bay and New England beat us before we knew who we were.
The Eagles march was all in Philly last year. The Eagles are on the road, and Soldier will be rocking. I honestly feel we are going to steamroll the Eagles and take it on the road to LA.
The Pats beat us on a blocked punt and 90+ yard kick off return. The Pack beat us because Rodgers...was who we thought he was and we let him off the hook!
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Miller is a badass...
Miller acknowledged his left shoulder completely dislocated during Sunday’s game against the Vikings.
“The shoulder came all the way out, so I had to pop it back in,” he said. “I’ve had to do that on numerous occasions this season.”
That’s a good indication Miller will have postseason surgery to stabilize his shoulder. For now, though, he’ll continue to wear the harness he has worn most of his rookie season.
“It’s not going to do anything different from what I’ve been doing,” he said. “I haven’t been 100 percent all season. I’ve still been managing to make plays and do my part for the team. That’s what I’m going to continue to try to do."
https://zippy.gfycat.com/BeautifulSlightFrillneckedlizard.webm"
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They need to hit Foles early and often and very HARD. Is Foles better than Cousins? Maybe, but Cousins was crapping his pants and afraid in that last game. We need to make sure Foles ends up the same way.
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Look, even if they lose its been a much better year than I thought it would be.
I would have agreed with you a month ago. But TBH if the Bears are not prepping for the Rams on Monday, I will be royally pissed. I expect a win and it will not depend on a late f*cking FG attempt by Sparky.
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Unless Pederson has something new up his sleeve, the Eagles are who they are with Foles. No running game, which plays to our strength. Abandon the run and let our front 7 batter your offensive line and push them back into Foles. Hold the ball 2.5 ticks to allow the deep pass to develop and feel the pressure. I know this is the Eagles and I know they beat us last year and are the returning champs and Foles is the wonderboy… but not this year. The Giants beat us with a solid running attack, a pick 6, and a trick play. The Dolphins beat us with a running attack, spreading the defense out, and withering heat. Green Bay and New England beat us before we knew who we were.
The Eagles march was all in Philly last year. The Eagles are on the road, and Soldier will be rocking. I honestly feel we are going to steamroll the Eagles and take it on the road to LA.
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He had a full practice today and thinks he's fine.
Untill he takes a couple of hard hits by Hicks and Mack that is. Then I doubt he'll be throwing many long passes.
I HATE Eagles fans.
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Coughing, laughing, sneezing, breathing...they all hurt with bruised/busted ribs...
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Anything ribs is painful and hard to recover from. You can have trouble breathing. The guy could not return to the game.
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A couple crunches and foles will have trouble breathing much less throwing a ball. I see these guys getting better and better. Look, even if they lose its been a much better year than I thought
it would be.
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It's a playoff game - the Bears will be facing a playoff team. It ain't going to be easy no matter the opponent (well maybe except for the Vikings).
The Eagles are pretty much the same team that won the Super Bow with the exception of their defensive backfield where they may be starting 3 backups...one of which may be ex-Bear Crevon LeBlanc. A fiesty slot guy with little deep speed....he can be beat deep.
Eagles are playing down Foles injured ribs...heh heh.
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Last season means exactly jack shit.
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Me too. The Eagles run game does not scare me. What scares me is Ertz, Jeffery, Tate, Agholor.
Although The Queens have: Thielen, Diggs, Rudolph, Treadwell - and we contained them. And the Queens have a better run game.
So - is Foles better than Cousins? And how are Foles ribs?
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I'm pretty nervous about this game. Too many even on here are overlooking them. This won't be a cakewalk. They're the defending champs and they got there by being overlooked, much like this season. They clocked the Bears 31-3 last season.....
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FWIW, both Hub and Weiderer are fairly optimistic that Eddie gives it a go on Sunday. Probably a limited session on Friday or Saturday would be a good indicator. The Bears are just being very cautious.
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I think the Bears win by 10 or more.
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Bears on defense. Eagles don't run well (28th) and the Bears are the best in the league against the run. Eagles are 7th in passing Bears are 7th in stopping the pass. So about even, with Bears getting a slight advantage because of Philly not being balanced offensively.
Bears on offense. Bears passing is the weakest phase of their game offensively/defensively. But the Eagles are 30th against the pass which helps the Bears quite a bit. Eagles are very good against the run (7th) Bears 11th but lately been on the upswing.
Special teams. I'd guess that the only advantage the Bears have is with Cohen on punt returns. Hopefully he'll be busy.
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Low scoring nail biter is ok, as long as the good guys come out on top. ;)
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Hub Arkush noted the Eagles OL was pretty weak earlier in the season and had injuries especially to the tackles.
Since they're healthier now he says it's the "best line thjey'll face since the Rams and we know how that turned out."
Foles will be under pressure and hit often. They don't have much of a running game and I don't think they'll score a lot.
The Eagles are without 3 starters in their DB. Hopefully the Bears can exploit that because their front 7 is really good and stops the run well.
Unfortunately downfild passing has not been a strength so I look for a low scoring nail biter Sunday.
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Someone here said Jackson is in week 3 of 4 week injury.
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Gimpy Jackson vs healthy Bush ?
Foles must have a quicker release and is very accurate - he's just not very mobile.
Trubisky had 3 runs against the Vikes - all scrambles. Trubisky will probably have designed runs this weekend.
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I read somewhere that Foles is real good at avoiding pressure, like he has been sacked half as many times as Wentz on a per game basis. Need to even that up this Sunday please.
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Jackson told the media he expects to play
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But fast Eddie is a difference maker back there, we’ll miss him. We need to make it hard for Foles to breathe and put him in the dirt often. I look for them to try to dunk and dunk to get the ball out quickly.
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I do not think Eddie is going to play. Bush has been OK - one bad penalty in the Vikes game.
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I saw the injury report late afternoon yesterday - all 3 of the injured wideouts were in full practice status. Bears will still need to dress an extra receiver(s) for Sunday.
I believe Wims is a backup for Miller's slot spot and White is the backup for Gabriel.
As for Eddie Jackson, I think they were hesitant to practice him because of the slippery practice conditions and decided to give him an extra day to heal. I think Lynch is pretty much out.
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I feel wary about Miller. What causes that shoulder to pop? He wasn't touched when he went down with the injury, literally just running with the ball. He actually dropped the ball as he reached the sideline and at first I thought his injury was wear the point of the ball went into his groin - ouch! That left a big hole on our team this past Sunday, and either they need to figure a way out to strap it in better, or sit him in favor of Wims/White. The Eagles secondary is said to be there weakness, I think either of those big bodies will be a good choice versus someone who might go down at any time just running around.
The future is bright for Miller, but is he our best choice right now?
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NBC Sports 11:47am 1/2/2018
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The Bears' wide reciever corps -- a unit that's particularly banged up after injuries to Allen Robinson (ribs), Taylor Gabriel (ribs) and Anthony Miller (shoulder) -- are all still considered day-to-day. Robinson has been out since the Bears' win in San Fransisco on December 23rd, while Gabriel and Miller suffered their injuries in the season finale in Minnesota.
"They're in a good spot with us" the head coach added. "... I do feel good with where they're at right now."
Nagy had slightly more to say about safety Eddie Jackson, who's been out since spraining his ankle on the NFC North title-clinching interception against Green Bay. Jackson will test the ankle today at practice, but is still considered day-to-day as well.
"For him, it's one of those deals where I have to make sure what he's telling us and where he's at physically," Nagy said. "We'll test it today and get an idea practice-wise or whatnot and then just go day by day. If he's in a good spot and he can go then we'll do that, and if he's not then we'll have to make that decision."
There was no explicit update on Aaron Lynch, who also remains day-to-day with an elbow sprain.
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I feel pretty good about the Eagles game. Bears have been tough at home. I like our chances. When they have to go on the road is when I will worry.
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I don't believe the team will look past the Eagles, Nagy has done a great job in keeping them focused. The one game you could make a case for is the Giants game, but this is the playoffs - I just don't see it happening.
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Fangio doesn't come across as having a dynamic energetic personality. In interviews he's not very colorful - pretty much meat and potatoes. He'll not appeal to some GMs HOWEVER, with all the openings out there he just has to appeal to ONE GM and that's all she wrote.
He'll be a HC like Nagy in that he'll run the team and the defense but totally turn over anything relating to offense to his OC. The other problem is that he could take a few assistants with him not to mention getting distracted from focusing on the Eagles this weekend and the Rams after that.
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I hope the Bears are not looking past the Eagles to the Rams in LA. That would be a huge mistake. Lets keep it one game at a time and let everything take care of itself. We need another Club Dub party this coming sunday.....
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Rivera leaving on 06 was self inflicted. Lovie didn't like the fact that Rivera was getting praise and felt his job was going to be threatened. So he got rid of him. Career ending move for Lovie.
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Bear/Vikings Highlights. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNXUwjEO5bY
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OR Greg Blaaaaaaaaaaaache
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As long as Mel Tucker is not involved, everything will be OK.
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Just adds more urgency to this seasons run. Make the best of the chance you have, and it may be one chance if he leaves...
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Yeah, while I want to keep Fangio, I m not biting my fingernails because somebody is looking at him.
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He's the best D-coordinator the Bears have had since Ryan, but I ain't worried. IIRC, the defense outside Callahan and Amos are signed for at least the next 2 years. There will be options on the outside chance the man gets his opportunity that frankly he deserves.
For me I am just going to sit back and enjoy the playoffs...
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Well that would figure. Bears finally get some success and then, like in 06', Rivera leaves and we never go back. That would be just like the Bears luck....
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Why?
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Miami just fired Gase who came from Chicago as a OC. Tough sell to the public hiring a DC from Chicago.
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They could also give him the title D Coord/Asst Head Coach, with the pay raise. Just make it happen Ryan Pace.....
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Show Fangio some love (money).. I'll be surprised if he gets a head coaching gig but it sounds like Miami is giving him serious consideration..
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I heard that PFF by their formula have Goldman, Amos and Nichols as having the best games last Sunday.
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I read the Broncos are one of the teams, and they are bringing back Kubiac to run the O. Not sure how many studs are left on D, but I hope Vic doesnt make the jump, just as we get the cupboard loaded up with some talent for him to work with....
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Fangio has a couple of HC interviews coming up.
In the past word has it he didn't get further consideration because he was too gruff and outspoken in his interviews. Hopefully he doesn't get hired away.
Also teams sometimes teams/GM's interview coordinators to get their opinion and analysis of their team for their own benefit without really considering the guy for the job.
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This is a must read for Bear fans:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-bears-eagles-vikings-observations-20190101-story.html
Even Dallas's lovefest for White will get a boost.
Even my concerns about the Bears lack of postseason experience got a boost
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https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-bears-eddie-jackson-kyle-long-injuries-20181231-story.html
This is about our wounded.
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I definately like the Bears chances in this game, but this is the defending super bowl champ we're playing, not the Queens again. They have the playoff experience. Bears do not.
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He may have avoided a broken rib, until he gets hit by a Mack truck. Lets hope the D is in his mind the whole game....
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I still say sore ribs? That's going to effect you.
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As the Eagles prepare to defend their Super Bowl championship in the playoffs, they will do so with a sigh of relief.
Quarterback Nick Foles sustained bruised ribs during Sunday's win over the Redskins but avoided a fracture, NFL Network's Mike Garafolo and NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Monday. The expectation is Foles will be good to start against the third-seeded Bears on Wild Card Weekend.
Eagles coach Doug Pederson confirmed later Monday that Foles will start under center in Chicago on Sunday.
Foles sustained the injury in the second half of the Eagles' 24-0 win over the Redskins. The win, coupled with Minnesota's loss to Chicago, has Philly back in the playoffs a year after their Super Bowl triumph.
Foles is the reigning Super Bowl MVP and has won three consecutive starts for Philly since taking over for an injured Carson Wentz.
Foles isn't the only Eagles player dealing with an injury. Pederson said wide receiver Mike Wallace (ankle) is a "long shot" to play this week. Cornerback Sidney Jones (hamstring) also might not play this week.
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As Robbie Gould keeps kicking away....Gould is the 2nd most accurate kicker in NFL history.
We now know why Washington refused to sign Cousins to a long term deal - he is 4 and 25 against winning teams. He could not complete deep passes yesterday....killer. He was worried about getting hit. Every pass was gone before 2 seconds.
Nick Foles has a rib injury...apply the pressure Fangio!!! I can't think of a more painful injury than ribs - it takes forever to heal. It hurts to breath. IF he plays do you think he wants to get hit? One hit could make it 10 times worse. Try throwing a football with a rib injury. You will only make it worse.
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I wonder where the Gould family will be sitting at the playoff game if they are going. He'll get plenty of attention if he isn't hiding in a box.
Admitting a $9 million dollar guaranteed mistake is not nearly as bad as firing squad Rick Spielman is facing with his $84 million dollar bet.
I am totally soaking in the negativity in Minneapolis right now. Haven't felt this great about a win against the Queens since that playoff game 24 years ago.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-fan-starts-gofundme-buy-out-kicker-cody-parkeys-contract
This is great. gofundme to buy out Parkeys contract!
I am sure there are some rich Bear fans who had plenty of spare cash to do that, but I wonder about league rules that might interfere with that scheme. Just think about such a prescedent being started with every team in the league. Ruin cap restrictions.
OTOH, I agree Parkay needs to go
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Most balanced game of the season against a strong defense in a hostile environment, maybe the toughest home field along with the Saints.
Why not us?!
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-fan-starts-gofundme-buy-out-kicker-cody-parkeys-contract
This is great. gofundme to buy out Parkeys contract!
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That ought to be an interesting matchup. I wonder if he has diahrea of the mouth about his time as a Bear. Hope our #17 is OK to play next week.
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Alshon Jeffery returns to Soldier Field, Burton faces his ex-teammates, the Long brothers, Bears facing the super bowl champs, Foles injured ribs, Bears 3 starting wide receivers banged up...should be an interesting week.
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Fantastic game today. I was wrong and happily so. I was so engrossed in the game I didnt stray to the computer to post. And Long was definitely the right move for the Oline. He definitely was ready to play. He seemed to create holes for Howard.
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Early line I saw was Bears -7...
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Bears were 4 point dogs today and will probably only be the obligatory 3 point home team favorites next Sunday night.
Great team victory - everyone had a solid game except for our keeker.
I know we've all wanted more out of our Howard in this offense but he's showing what he can do when he's more a part of the offense and gets a head of steam going. If he continues this the Bears become more balanced and less dependent on Trubisky having to make so many plays. I think they like Trubisky making more safe throws and avoiding turnovers.
Now we got to see what's the status of our starting wide receivers for next week,
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I am sure Foles doesn’t want to see our defense
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Lot's of teams whipped the bears last season. This season? Not so much...
The Bears could lose next week but I like our chances. I don't think anyone wants to come into Soldier Field right now.
No matter who the Bears play their QB is going to be taking hits. I don't care if it is Foles or Wentz. Neither is going to be very comfortable in the pocket especially nursing an inury.
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There was a play where Hicks came up the middle for a sack. As Hicks broke through the line Delvin Cook was in front of Hicks and literally stepped aside to let Hicks bury Cousins.
I will look for a video of that play.
Too bad Howard only about 50 yards short of 1000.
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Congrats to the Chicago Bears for a great regular season of football, they made it fun for me to watch again. Here's hoping for a great playoff run.
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How in hell is that relevant?
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Eagles won't be a pushover. They whipped the Bears last season.
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This Bears defense is better then any Bears defense under Lovie IMO.
Lovie's defense had a lot of tunrovers and some awesome games but they always seemed to give up lots of yards and give up the big play way to often. This defense is flat out dominating.
QB's are running for their lives and RB's are often shut down until it no longer matters.
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That's flexing your muscles.. To go to the Vikes and spank 'em, even though they had to have this game to get in. If someone wasn't noticing the Bears before, they are now.. Vikes have the number 3 D.. Some mistakes, but fukk, what a way to end the regular season... To the vikes- Hey Hey Hey.. Good bye!!
If this was the Lovie era, we would've laid down..
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So for a minute I thought we were playing the Pack with that bogus penalty. Thank goodness it all worked out in the end. Fingers crossed Foles is limited, or better yet out next week.
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Sounds like Foles ribs are just bruised and he will start.
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Eagles secondary is banged up. It might be the worst one they faced since the bucs.
I love that Nagy kept his foot on the Vikings throat and eliminated them this week. Vikings D players are the current cheap shot leaders in the NFC North.
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Eagles are coming to town.
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Great season!
12-4 Kings of the North!
5-1 against division opponents.
Now let's start stacking wins in the playoffs.
Who knows maybe they win it all!
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Rookie head coach second year QB in first real season...12-4 record.
Win
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White could of done a better job trying to come back for it. If he had they would of had to throw the flag.
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It was.
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How is that not pi
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Bears number two D closes it out...
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I love watching our opponents and their fans suffer.
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Bet Cousins is fine with not making the playoffs and having to face us again...
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Our 2nd stringers are killing them!
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All second string defense now.
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He made it!
24 -10 Bears!
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Woohoo Amos!
Can't get a first down with Mack and Hicks sitting out.
Great to get that TD on the road in playoff conditions. Feeling better about Trubisky.
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Awesome!!!
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Eagles up 24-0. Send the Vikings home for the playoffs...right here, today.
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I still wonder if Kwiatkoski is related to Pauly the Lizard King...
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As bad as Parkey sucks just go for two every time? And go for it on 4th down inside the 40?
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Going for 2...no confidence in Parkey at all...
Trubisky to Kwiatkoski for 2! LOL!
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Vikings look like someone took their lunch money.
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Offense blows right through 3 first round draft pick defenders.
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IT"S GOOD!
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Not sure I agree with going for 2 here.
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COHEN!
Could have used that last weekend dammit...
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TD BEARS!
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Howard is quietly having one hell of a game.
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I do like me some Javon Wims...
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LOL, fixed now...
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And why is the score wrong on TV?
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Foles just left the Eagles game hurt...Nate Sudfeld in at QB...
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Bellamy should of had that.
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Gabriel out with a shoulder now?? This ain't good....
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Trevathan covering Diggs is never gonna be pretty.
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Bears 13, Vikings 3, Refs 7...
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Akeem Hicks with a sack!
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And another garbage call...
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That's ANOTHER fking terrible penalty!! WTF!!!!!!
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Another terrible call!
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Horrible call...completely blew any momentum we had...
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That’s an awful call
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Even Pirera said it's a bad call
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Terrible call.
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The Bears should keep Howard. When he has blocking, he is excellent.
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Seriously?? HELL YA get Gould back!
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I heard the Robbie Gould is a free agent, Pace go and get him for next year, damn the cost, and right your biggest wrong. I would really really like to end this season with a win, but if they sit everyone, so be it.
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Rams up 28-3 now.
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Plus if we let the Vikings win and we get them in the playoffs it will likely be a W!
I think I would rather face the Vikings then the Eagles.
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Tough call, Peke.....tough call. You want to go in to the playoffs with momentum and you may possibly be giving the game to the Queens,so.....but you don't want key players hurt and there are so many key players on the team. Do you want to lose Trevathan? Or Hicks? Or Mack? Floyd? Howard? Trubisky? Sit the entire team? All starters sit?
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Are we sure that Parkey understands the rules? Maybe he thinks that hitting the upright gets more points.
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Every time Parkey misses a kick, my Bears playoffs hopes and dreams seem a little sillier...
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Rams up 21-3. Do the Bears sit the starters for the second half?
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What an idiot
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Parkey won't be back next season. How the hell do you miss a PA?? This guy is trash and we need him....sucks
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Fucking Parkey!
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Clearly down on the 1, though...not sure what the ref saw there...
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Down at the 1.
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HOLY cow, what a catch by Gabriel!! Don't get no better than that, wow....
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Wake up Mitchell
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TWO delay of games in a row??? Not how you go into the playoffs.....
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Wth guys?? Make it tougher on yourselves, wtf....stupid
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Gotta get Howard going. Don't throw so much
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Bears D stomping the Vikings
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D is looking play off ready.
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Wth was that??? Why did they do that
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No kidding. Cousins looks helpless out there...
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Bears D is really hot right now. Could they be even better than they have been? If so, look out!
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Rams up 14-0
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White and Wims seeing the field...hope AM is OK...
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Bears looking tough
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Robinson not playing. Miller just hurt his shoulder.
I like Robinson - but he seems sit a lot.
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Miller out. Saw White earlier, maybe he gets some reps.
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Long is in there
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HAHAHA...Cousins 4 and 24 against teams with winning records
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Concussion for Rodgers....stupid to play and that's why.
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Am greatly enjoying watching the Loins dismantle the Quack lol. Kizer is in now. I do think they're throwing this game to get a better pick though by the looks of it. Otherwise Rodgers would be in there....as it stands, he's in the locker room having his "leg" looked at or some bs...
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According to Jay Glazer Kyle Long is not only playing today but starting. Not sure someone who might be rusty shouldnt be worked in a tad slower. We shall see.
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Plus the Eagles are riding the Nick Foles underdog superbowl repeat champs. I think that would be the toughest playoff game for us. Seahawks here are formidable, but not as intimidating as they are in SEA.
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The team I'd least like to see in Chicago is the Eagles. Bears have trouble with them and they're a cold weather team and they're tough. Seachickens, at home, we can beat. Same with Queens. Eagles? Tough one....
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I and all the Bears fans at work agree. End the Vikings season then take on whomever. Losing to the Vikings then facing them again just makes me ill. It reminds me of the Lovie/Cutler loss two times in a row to the Packers. If you can beat them beat them.
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I hope the Bears put the Vikings out of the way playoffs tomorrow. Then play whomever. They aren’t the Packers but they are the Vikings. End their season. Win the first playoff game...
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Regarding Fangio. The only job I see as a good fit is packer land. But If you were Fangio, would you want to deal with Rodgers? Fukk no!! I don't see Fangio as a hot candidate. Right now, I see the NFL going for the young offensive guys. Not saying he won't be called for interviews. Already mentioned, half the available jobs are with bu!!sh!t teams. In packerland, he wouldn't be calling anything on offense. He probably wouldn't even be included in the offense. He would be head coach only by title. Fangio is just a good old defensive guy that knows football, doesn't mean he would make a good head coach..
And for sure not knocking Vic, he's really good at what he does. But head coach? I don't know...
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I think the eagles are the team no one wants to play right now. Beating the vikes 3 times would certainly show domination. With that said, the vikes have a really good D. I think Seattle is the team I would rather see us face. Most likely it will be the Vikings..
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Vikings would be the team I'd least like to see. Seahawks and eagles both seem like less dangerous teams to me.
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Lets hope so.
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I wouldnt mind seeing Harrison Smith take a little punishment, as payback, from an OL or two.
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I believe we take this one. Nagy has them focused and he plans to play the starters at least through the first half. It depends on the Bears score and the Rams score on what he does in the second half.
I do not think Kirk Cousin is capable of beating the Bears D.
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I would rather face them here than face them there again. Just saying.
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Well if they beat us tomorrow then we face them in Chicago again. That would not be good
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This will be an interesting game. The Vikes are in desperation mode, as if they dont win they dont get in the playoffs, where the Bears are in no matter what. And if the Rams win, the outcome of this game is kind of meaningless. So if we stay at the 3 seed our opponent will be the Vikes, Seahawks, or Eagles. I am not sure who would be the best opponent at Soldier Field, maybe the Vikes....
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https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-bears-vikings-kyle-long-allen-robinson-20181228-story.html
If Jackson and Robinson dont play we could be in trouble. Cousins and his crew of WRs are heads above what we faced in SF.
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Thats the way I'd go and give Fangio the title assistant HC. Didnt the Bears have the same problem with Buddy Ryan? He didnt have much luck once he left.
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If the Bears are serious about "keeping the band together" for a stretch of runs then they will probably need to offer Fangio a raise that makes him the (or one of the) highest paid DC in the league (and it does not count against the cap).....
IMHO It would not be all about him wanting the money (he's made quite a bit already) but the "bragging rights" inside the coaching "world" that goes with it...
Of course if the D shits the bed these next two games (a slight chance as always) maybe all bets are off.....
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Gotcha, I just think Biggs puts a bunch of stuff out there. He was leading the charge after 2016 to release Fuller after sitting out the season. Funny, Fuller was vilified for sitting out and not "toughing it out", and he ended up being the smart one. Floyd tried to play through injury this season rather than sit, and there were calls to have him traded, etc. Glad to see he rebounded, but perhaps Floyd would have been better served to sit and heal.
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The subject had been brought up before so I had to post it.
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Column: With Vic Fangio sure to be in demand, the Bears might need to think outside the box to keep the defensive mastermind
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-bears-vic-fangio-head-coach-demand-biggs-20181227-story.html
Nice article, but just a lot of projection.
IF, Fangio wants to be a head coach then I can't imagine throwing dollars at him will change his mind to remain a coordinator. He is 61, not 41. So I can't imagine he would jump into a volatile situation. Say the Cardinals who just hired Wilks decide to part ways after just one season. Why would someone with a secure job and one he loves, step into that where the owner doesn't allow the current coach more than one season? On the Score yesterday, Biggs did make this point and followed with the GM might be on thin ice also. So would you leave Chicago to take a cluster job?
Unfortunately , I think the Packer job is a nice fit. Hate him or just dislike him a lot, Rodgers is in place. The offense lacks some talent for now at the skill positions, but as we have seen that can be fixed quickly, aka Bears 2017 vs Bears 2018. Their defense is not good, but there are some parts there. Fangio was able to guide the rebuild of our defense, before he oversaw the rebuild of the 49er defense. He would also be an adult voice with Rodgers which is what he needs, not some young up and coming offensive coach. Rodgers isn't going to change now.
If offered the Packer head coach position, would Fangio change his mind because we sweeten his deal here? Not likely. Not if his career dream was to be a banker.... er, a head coach. A little Seinfeld reference there at the end...
I don't buy that there is anything we can do to keep Fangio if the right opportunity comes along and that is what he wants. No matter what the cost.
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Column: With Vic Fangio sure to be in demand, the Bears might need to think outside the box to keep the defensive mastermind
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-bears-vic-fangio-head-coach-demand-biggs-20181227-story.html
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/27/chicago-bears-nfl-power-rankings-week-17-usa-today/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline
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Or a Wim/Win? ;D ;D
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We should play Javon Wims this Sunday with Allen Robinson injured. It will help us down the road and give Robinson a break. It would seem like a win/win.
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Interesting read:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-bears-mitch-trubisky-vikings-hit-20181226-story.html
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I read somewhere that they went from some midwest supplier of grass to somewhere in like New Jersey or something. Different breed of grass with fast growing roots or something. Appears to make a difference....
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For years all you heard is that the turf at Soldier Field is terrible, etc. You don’t hear that anymore....
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Agreed - the turf was in terrible shape. The Seahawks complained about it last weeks. How in the hell in the turf bad in California?
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As bad as the footing was for players on both teams, it wouldn’t surprise me if it didn’t play a part in his missed kick.
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He doesnt kick with his head. :o
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I think he over corrects for the wind. It is in his head.
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After Parkey hit the goalpost 4 times, he adjusted something and hit the next several kicks square. Then there was another game where he was cruising then right near the end he pulled his extra point. It still went through, but it was not in the norm of his previous kicks. Since then, he has been a bit erratic again.
It is almost always that his kicks sail right when he misses. I am not a professional kicker, but I almost think it must be something with his standing placement being off a half foot before he starts the process. It sucks not being able to rely on him.
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Merry Christmas!
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If Parkey misses FGs and extra points, then the blame will be on him as long as the holder isn't the issue....
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If the Bears lose in the playoffs, I hope Parkey is not the scapegoat for that loss. Its hard to fix problems if they can't be honest enough to affix the blame causes to the proper places. ...
This team is young and don't quite know what they are yet (like a premier racing foal getting to its unsteady legs). But the initial indications are that they are a team with "legs" (so to speak) that can make an extended run...
The playoffs are a different beast (as is the Superbowl) than regular season as regular season is to pre-season. Here's hoping they cope with it well and win.
Go Bears !
BTW Merry Christmas All !
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Road wins are great. They should have scored more points. I felt Nagy was trying to dig too deep into the play book.
Trubisky had a great game accept for the fumble. I thought he should have run more.
Anytime they want to find a good replacement for Packey that would be ok for me.
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Fantasy football championship game...
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Yup ;D
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Cohen cost me about $400 last night...
There are different ways to interpret that comment
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Cohen cost me about $400 last night...
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Ugly road win, I'll take it. A win against a scrappy yet not that great of a team (although, their D is ranked 10th). As I said yesterday, our D is giving up yardage at pretty good clip. The niners were driving the field, then always imploded when approaching or in the red zone. Granted, some of that implosion was due to our D.
WTF regarding Parkey. We're going into the playoffs with a kicker that can easily miss field goals that are extra point range. You get a bad weather day at Soldier and field goals could easily be the difference.
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I knew this was gonna be a tough win. No offensive style points but take the road victory.
Thoughts:
- don't EVER rush 3 guys
- not only is Nagy getting too cute on short yardage they were running Howard wide several times when only a yard was needed
- all offensive skills players need to practice holding on to the ball after getting tackled - all our future opponents are going to be doing their best peanut tillman impersonations
- Bears finally attempt a deep pass - Nagy is still conservative with Trubisky attempts - lots of short passes (86% completed with 8.5 per attempt) - do we have crossing patterns in our play book?
- nice pressure on pass rush - that was the difference between the 49ers team and ours - despite them having 3 sacks to our 1
- Cohen has one of his least productive games - 49ers focused on him
- QB for 49ers was impressive with a bunch of backup skill guys - without Mack today we lose
- this offensive production will get you beat in playoffs
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Get used to ugly wins and be happy with them. I don't see any easy games from here on out.
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Bears with an ugly win
If they play like that against the Queens they will be beat. We sure dont play well on the road. That doesnt bode well to reach the Superbowl
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Well I am super stoked about the win. I would have liked to see the D be a little bit more dominant, but they sure did a good job. It will be interesting to see what happens at the Vikes next week....
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It's important Trubisky played well other than that bad end zone int.
I'm surprised 9ers pass protected that well.
Bears have to emphasize ball security this week.
Best of all I don't think therec were any serious injuries.
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It’s progress....they lost this game in New York.
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That kicker if he doesn't change, will burn the Bears out of the playoffs. These people get paid fantastic sums, almost as much as democratic politcos to
do very little. Make the damn kick!
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A win is a win, but in the playoffs stupid will get you beat. Nagy should have put the ball in Howard’s hands on that last series. There is a reason you run the ball to end games.
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Bears with an ugly win
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Wow should have run for the first thanks for the gift
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FLOYD!
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Ugh, saw that coming the way he was carrying it...
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The D is well rested...
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Glad they didn’t try some trick stuff there
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There should always be a “line to gain” camera. It doesn’t seem like it would be that hard. Put a camera in the yard marker....
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Fking dirty 49ers!!! That was a serious late hit that ought to result in ejection!
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WHY are they throwing so much here?!???
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POUND it with Howard already!! Eat that clock, tire the D out and win this sucker!!
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What a insane, crazy int!! Man what a play!!
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Again, right down the field....c'mon guys!!!!
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That was just a great play by Mack, pulling out. QB's a bit frustrated lol....
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D is playing a really soft zone.
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Now, time for the D to light it up....
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TD BEARS!
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Glad to see Nagy fired up. About time someone lights a fire under their as....s
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Run Howard already...keep running him....
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Cohen, get out of bounds! You're gonna get hurt doing that!!
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He was down also.
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face mask. Good thing cause he had him dead to rights.
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Knee was down. If they give it to the Niners the fix is in.
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Trubisky is 9-12 for 137, a TD, and no picks.
I can’t imagine what y’all would be bitching about if he was actually playing poorly. Some of you need to get real with your expectations. He’s not fucking Brady yet...
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Need better pressure
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And I totally agree, enough with the cute fancy plays, cause they havent been working. Kind of ticked off right now. I dont have a good feeling about this game, at all.
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So Parkey also slipped on that last kick off, giving the 9ers good field position. Sigh. In case the Bears dont know it, this game isnt a given. AND if they dont win, welcome to the 3rd seed. Get your shiit together guys, we kind of need to win this game. lets hope for some second half adjustments....
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This is reminding me of the Giants game. D giving up big chunks of yardage..
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They kept showing bad angles of the play so they went with the call on the field.
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and we got rid of Gould why?
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Score could easily be 17-0
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I hope the Bears are pissed and just blow them out in the second half.
What a pant load.
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BS! No way was that a first down!
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This gave them time to get the FG unit in there.
WTF?
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1 yard short. Way to fuck that up refs!
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You just knew Goulde would have a big game today!
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Right down the field.... >:(
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How many guys have slipped so far today? Fuller has gone down twice and now the frigging punter goes down on the kickoff. Change cleat depths, MAYBE???
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Finally a score. Quit being cute and pound these suckers with Howard...he was getting yards. Not sure why they went away from him but it's not smart.
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Beautiful head fake by Miller
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Seems Tru is hesistant to run but he's got some wide open spots to run and hasn't. Think he needs to pull it down and go. There's another pathetic throw, wtf!
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refs bail out Trubisky
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Wow nice call
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Friggin lucky
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F'ING TRUBISKY!! QUIT WITH THE STUPID THROWS ALREADY!!! Got lucky on that one. Ignorant!
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This game reminding me a lot of the Cardinal game early in the season.
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And so far there are TOO many of those frigging sideline routes. Enough of those already...someone's gonna jump one and take it to the house.
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Pound Howard, quit trying to be cute....
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I mentioned a day or so ago they gotta knock off the stupid trick plays. Throw those f'ing things in the trash!
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Gotta hold em to a FG here....don't wanna get down 10....
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Bears doing everything to lose today
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That was a false start on their full back. Why no call on it?
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The trick plays are mostly disastrous
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Nagy zero for his last three cute plays.
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Fucking Nagy.
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It was a backwards pass so it is Niners ball.
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What the hell kind of deal was that, Trubisky? This kid....I swear.....
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When you are running the ball like that why get cute?
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That was fucking stupid!
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Geez who told Nagy to challenge that one.
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Bears are blowing this game....nice to see.... >:(
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Sleepwalked through the first quarter. Better get it together here...
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I don’t believe that there is not someone better on the street.
Half the league has the same problem. I expect there to be an early run on kickers.
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Great now they have managed to give the Niners all the momentum.
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Parkey is terrible
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I don’t believe that there is not someone better on the street.
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Parky is going to lose us a play off game. Bank on it!
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37 yard FG should be money. We really need to spend our 7th rounder on a kicker next year.
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You can’t go into the playoffs with Parkey. You gotta make those every time.
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Good God is it that hard?
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AND...Parkey blows another FG ...wth? Not impressed with this team today so far. Better pick it up!
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Nice pass to Robinson deep! If I'm the coach, I get quite a few deep routes this game, get Trubisky some 'air time' so he can get some confidence going in to the playoffs.
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Tru once again throws off and they have to punt.
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found this in the Trib to put you in a festive mood:
Club Dub rockin’
The Bears finished their regular-season home schedule 7-1, and after a division-clinching victory over their archrival, they let it all hang out in the postgame party.
Now imagine the scene after a playoff victory.
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Two backup guards...a backup center...they're starting LT is playing with one arm. And they wonder why their QB keeps getting sacked and blame the play caller?
They're defense gave up 16 to the Colts - that should be enough for a win in this league.
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It's interesting listening to the Dallas media on the radio. One week it's all about the Cowboys going to the Super Bowl - this week it's back to firing their head coach and finding a new QB. Oh well.
But when the talk comes to playoff teams and their chances they like the Bears but totally disrespect Trubisky. It's not just the local Dallas talk radio. Nationally it's the same thing. Bears will do well as long as Trubisky isn't the reason they lose but he doesn't have to be the reason they win.
Really? Who is going to complete the pass on 3rd down? Kahlil Mack? Tarik Cohen?
I'm hoping Trubisky makes these talking heads STF up.
Well the Cowboys looked unbeatable in their game a week ago then shut out Sunday. I wouldn't want to face the defense they had a week ago.
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I don't know...ask Zach Miller or Anthony Miller what they think of Tarik's QB skills...
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It's interesting listening to the Dallas media on the radio. One week it's all about the Cowboys going to the Super Bowl - this week it's back to firing their head coach and finding a new QB. Oh well.
But when the talk comes to playoff teams and their chances they like the Bears but totally disrespect Trubisky. It's not just the local Dallas talk radio. Nationally it's the same thing. Bears will do well as long as Trubisky isn't the reason they lose but he doesn't have to be the reason they win.
Really? Who is going to complete the pass on 3rd down? Kahlil Mack? Tarik Cohen?
I'm hoping Trubisky makes these talking heads STF up.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Chase in the 2nd half of a Viking beat down that Mitch is leading and we decide to rest our starters in the 2nd half!
;D ;D ;D
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Agree about Mitch having the skills and mobility. Giving kudos to Pace and Nagy for not sticking us with a total boob as backup. I look at the eagles with Foles, what a luxury that is. Not saying Chase is a Foles but he is a competent backup. I hope we don't need to see him the rest of the year though..
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Yep - Chase can run the show - no question. He just does not have the skills Trubisky has. Daniels is not mobile. Trubisky was very rusty against the Rams - I still think he could played against the Giants - oh well.
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Totally agree with you on Chase. Even with the pick 6 he could have won that Giants game if he wouldn't have mishandled those snaps.
But I was more pointing out the athleticism of Trubisky yesterday, most NFL QBs not just Daniel, most starting QBs, don't escape a couple of those Packer blitzes yesterday.
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Agree about the packer holding. Some of it was so blatant. How the heck do they not call that? Unreal!!
Also, agree about Trubisky, played solid, much better than last game. One comment about Chase Daniels. If you think about some of the backups we've had, Chase is head and shoulders above them. Actually, Chase is much better than most of the starters we've had. I b!tch about Chase just like the rest, but realistically, he ain't bad for a backup. He fukked some things up at the end of the Giants game, but he also made some decent throws.
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Packers' RT Spriggs was the guy the Bears were rumored to be taking in the 2nd round of the 2016 draft. Packers traded up one pick before the Bears pick and took him. Bears then traded down when their pick came up next.
I think most Packers fans would agree that he has been a disappointment. Bears ended up with an extra mid round pick and took Cody Whitehair later in round 2.
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Packers frequently looked like they were not double teaming Mack. With that kind of stupid arrogance they deserve to lose.
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More scattershootings:
Bakiaratti is considered the best LT in the league. But if you watch his play he latches on to defenders inside their shoulder pads and never lets go. A QB can roll out to the left and the defender doesn't move. No flag. #47 was being held and Rodgers backpeddled and Irving was trying to chase him down and Bakiaratti literally tackled him around the waist. Nothing. And the one holding penalty they finally called on #78 I really didn't think was that bad.
Trubisky had a very solid game. But some of his plays to escape the Packers blitz were outstanding. That's what I was talking about the big difference between him and Chase Daniel. Daniel does not win the game Sunday.
Back to Trubisky I think Nagy is limiting some of his throws to short and intermediate - no deep ones Sunday. Impressed by a couple throws to Gabriel and Shaheen. But Anthony Miller was never targeted once - often times relegate to patterns that are along the line of scrimmage to simply eliminate a defender.
Running game just not consistent. Too many 1 and 2 yard runs.
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I also loved the Erin drama queen pretending he was hurt, by trying the hail mary pass, as he was stretching after every play, grimacing, and then pleading with the refs for PI. Priceless.
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Again I am more shocked that the margin was 7. Most Bear/Pack games are within a FG or a late Pack surge. This one might have come down to the failed onside kick with 11 ticks. But I was just happy with the win, regardless of points. Just beating Erin was my pleasure.
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Great win. Amazing. Should not have been as close. Mizell should never see the field again, the Wildcat needs to go. I hated the fake punt - at least throw the ball beyond the marker or don't do it.
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I was thinking the same thing about a bye week, we could come out rusty. Then again extra healing time wouldnt be bad either. As well as McMannis played, you can see he is a drop off from Callahan. And Rogers was picking on Prince pretty much, almost seemed afraid to throw at Fuller, probably figured he would make up for that dropped pick in game 1.
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They've got the niners and the cards, I wouldn't hold my breath. Plus, I'm not too sure we don't play better without a week off..
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Philly dominating the Hams! We're one game closer to getting a bye, boys!!!
Need another Hams loss and us to win next week and we're in the 2nd spot!!!
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Go EAGLES! Beat the Hams and get us closer to the two spot...
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Just ordered a DIVISION CHAMPS hat and shirt.....lemme say that again for Otts....DIVISION CHAMPS!
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Bears King of the North! I think our franchise is officially back. We are a young team with a young QB, the future looking bright. This season they mentioned we are the ONLY team that has a the lead in the 2nd half (or was it 4th Q) of every game. That made me realize that maybe we are as good as I think we are. Sometimes I think I am just a homer fan as they are my team. But really we have been in every game this year. We could easily have a few more wins, and I would not say its out of question to be undefeated.
I truly think we are going to be in contention for SuperBowl, we may not get there but I guarantee we will be in the game till the end! Exciting season, exciting team. Go BEARS!!
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Nice thing is with Jackson that we now have the Division rapped up so he can rest a bit. That goofy trick play when they just needed one yard has to go though. Trubisky was very elusive today. Great effort by the D.
GOODBYE Green Gay!! Enjoy your offseason ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Amazing win and about dang time!
BEARS DIVISION CHAMPS!!!!
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Rest him next week..
Man it feels good.. The Bears win the division. Start of the season all the talk was Green Bay and the Vikings..
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I think so as well...
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@AdamHoge
Right ankle sprain for Eddie Jackson. Matt Nagy was asked if that’s a relief and he said, “Yeah I think so.”
1:35 PM - 16 Dec 2018
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Leno proposed to his girlfriend on the field after the game. Very cool moment...saw them on the video board while Tru was being interviewed...
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Trubisky with a 124 QBR. Rogers 69.
Isn't that what we've waited for? Someone to out play a packers qb.
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Rogers didn't look like he wanted any part of the game anymore
Let me add McManus blocked a third down pass and a TD passm
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I wasn't real happy with some of the trick plays. The fake punt, didn't bother me going for it, it was the way they went for it.. The wildcat,,, leave that at home..
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I hope Jackson is OK. Our d backfield is a bit dinged up.. I'm glad we won, so did the vikes. I loved seeing Rodgers walking off the field with his jersey all fukked up. The smug pr1ck..
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Great!!!!!
Good game Trubisky. Nagy. Fangio. Mack. Floyd. Jackson
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What a game!! Fukking holding (that didn't get called), WTF? Man, some of the holding was blatant as he11. Rodgers was close to coming back.... The Bears did it.. North division champs!!
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Brilliant turnaround!! The Bears could literally win the Super Bowl one year after John Fox
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I would say I’m gonna miss Otto...but I won’t...
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10 wins! Division Champs! Packers out of playoffs!!
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FLOYD!
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I’m going to have a heart attack… They finally called holding on the Packers
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end of the world is here. Packers called for hold
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His body was ready to chew up yards and his brain told him to get down.
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Just when you think the Bears might cave, they score 10 points and pick off Rogers
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Jackson turned his ankle going down after the pick...hope he’s OK. He was untouched...just caught his cleats in the turf...
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I hope Jax is ok
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JACKSON!
PICK!
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Holding!
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Cohen runs out of bounds a yard short with no defenders around. That had better not cost us.
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Houston-Carson with a great block on the Cohen punt return!
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Better
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Bears!!!
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1) Fake punt when GB expects it
2) Timeout with 4 seconds left in the 3rd
3) Wildcat on 3rd and 1
The game can be simple if you let superior talent take over, Matt.
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Forget holding, the blatant hugging the Packers are getting away with is much worse than usual. And this is in Chicago.
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Thanks for the overthrow s Rogers
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Trick plays backfiring....
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Fucking Nagy.
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Well this isn’t going as planned.
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Yep, once again the pack is getting away with holding, a lot...
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Well Floyd is being held like crazy, and of course only the Bears get called for holding. I wouldnt mind seeing a few more sacks, and lets maybe end Erin's no interception streak while we are at it. And that Cohen TD was crazy.
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I was thinking this would be a fantastic game to go to. Now if we could just win by say 30 pts, then I wont be having any heart palpitations today. That would be nice.
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its been so long since I've been there, they still had astro-turf. Daly meant the mayor, Banks hadn't retired that long ago, And Muggs was still around. Chicago was always a tough town, but now, now its nothing but a free fire zone. I'll never go back.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DujeA6XVsAAHJYk.jpg)
I'd love to be there today
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If we win by 1 point I'll be happy. Probably bitching, but happy. I'd hate like he11 for it to come down to the last game.
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This is interesting. Nagy needs to do this. Make them sit and watch the 2nd half.
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/14/matt-nagy-wont-let-bears-forget-sting-of-week-1s-loss-to-packers/
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5 points is a lot of points when you are talking odds Bears/Pack. If the Bears win by a FG the pick of the Pack makes sense. My guess is f the Bears win the game is going to be close.
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/week-15-nfl-odds-picks-schedule-how-to-watch-stream-expert-picks-against-the-spread-predictions-survivor-pool-play/
Here's one site that 6 out of 8 are picking the Packers. I hope we beat 'em 40 to zip. This is the game, show us what ya got.. Win this, we win the division. Lose and the Vikes win.. Then ya never know..
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That's what I'm saying. Unless we knock that smug pr1ck out of the game, the pack will be a threat to beat us. He loves playing in Chicago, lambeau south. You can bet your a$$ that he has studied our defense day and night all week. He's coming to win. Gotta keep pressure on him and don't let him out of the pocket to run for yards. Green Bays O is ranked 11th, ours is ranked 22nd. Now we have the 3rd ranked D, that with anyone else I would say we'll spank 'em. Rodgers? No gimme...
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UH OH watch out. Crap the bed time?
https://mail.yahoo.com/d/folders/4/messages/APZHkFk-ezSqXBUXJQ5ngLqoyMs
I dont like overwhelming favorite talk, especially wit Erin behind center.
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What I hate most about the commercial is where the Bear fans and signs disappear like magic. Like he has something to do with that.
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I hate that commercial.
I hate any commercial when I have to see Aaron Rodgers' face.
But next in line is that Verizon dweeb asking total strangers stupid questions about getting free stuff. Fast forward - warp speed.
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If Jordan Howard keeps getting 100 yard games and Mitch stays upright, I vote for Long to be an expensive backup. No need to mess with OLine chemistry. Sunday at the Rams might be an aberration or they might be starting to click.
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I hate that commercial.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_ZH-iMSMk4
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Yes, awesome indeed. We Bear fans need a Bears victory Sunday.
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wlmjohn....awesome!
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Long may make it back for the playoffs:
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/13/matt-nagy-says-kyle-long-has-chance-to-play-again-this-season/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline
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That would make a great fat head.
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LOVE IT!!
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Word is they are going to try and get Long some reps in final game against Vikes, then he would play for the playoffs.
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Long is walking without a boot.
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Still havent heard any update on Long either.
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I don't believe me mentioning the injury situation will increase more injuries due to some jinx...knock on wood.
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Way to go Mr. Jinx
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Players are dropping like flies all over the league. Bears lose only 2nd starter to IR.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/12/bears-sign-veteran-cb-marcus-williams/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline
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He's another Greenwithenvy. When things were going bad with the Peckers and the Bears had their great year he was no where to be found. Then when the Peckers started getting good again and the Bears went back downhill he decided to reappear on the board to talk shit.
At least otter is on one topic of the board still talking shit.
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Ha, I am trying to draw him out a bit. He likes to talk his drivel when things are going well for the Pack/bad for the Bears. When the tables turn, not so much...
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Yep!!
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Curious? No. Expected. He's a troll.
And the only time he will post will be at the next Bears' loss be it next week or in the playoffs.
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You may want to post that in Politics. It seems Otto has lost his way to this thread... Curious
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LOL!! I hope we see a lot of that Sunday..
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For those that don't venture to the Peckers thread...
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Mr. Rodgers has no offensive line....against our D line. Better get rid of the ball QUICK. They may need the gurney again and get Rodgers off the field.
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I think about Favre's last game at Soldier field (as a packer). He got the sh1t beat out of him on the field and on the score board. He said it was the coldest game he'd ever played in. I'd like to see Rodgers get the same treatment.. But mark this down, if Rodgers is on and he's given time to throw, we will be in trouble.. WE sure as hell don't want a shoot out. Not with rusty Mitch..
Hopefully the D takes care of business..
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This is a young team I doubt there's many that understand the history of beatings we've taken by the Pack and Rodgers over the years. Who has been with the Bears more than 5 years on this team? Since Kyle Long is on IR - McManus is the only one.
But I think the media and coaches will do a good job of reminding them of the importance of beating Green Bay.
I know that Callihan has a broken foot - can he recover in 5 weeks and play in the NFC Championship game?
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Maybe Fangio will remind his defensive players that these are the same clowns that beat us in the 1st game of the season and show them some 2nd half film of that game. That will get some blood boiling for sure. That will surely get the players attention to detail.
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I would hope he doesnt need to be told that. However if he does, I commission you to do that. You have my blessing.
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Someone needs to tell Mack that this is the game of the week and will be shown everywhere on prime time. That seems to really get him going, and we really need him to have a superb game.
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Absolutely
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Thing is, we need this game. We sure as hell don't want this to come down to the game in Minny. Rodgers is coming with all guns loaded. This is Mr heroics when it comes to playing Chicago. Don't think this game will be any different. We better hope that Rodgers is being hit often. If he's given time we will be fukked and fukked quickly. He'll start out by unloading the ball to short routes to counter the pass rush. To me, this is the game... Goff ain't no Rodgers..
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Really, the only thing that wasn't clicking Sunday night was Trubisky. Even Howard looked like he got the memo. Let's hope they have two great games in a row in them.....gotta beat the cheese!
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Maybe their d-backfield, not their pass rush. Trubisky had all day to throw - he just couldn't find anybody and when he did he often was off target.
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I noticed a few times they had Mack and Floyd on the same side. I imagine it is hard to block both of them. Amazing we beat arguably the best team in the NFL and Mitch played so poorly. The Rams D might have had something to do with that, just like ours made Goff look pretty bad as well.
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Check out Cohens block.
Pretty impressive for his size. I think it ticked the defender off also.
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https://www.facebook.com/chicitysportscom/videos/260950627910249/?t=3
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Hmmm I thought we didnt play for draft pick, lol.....well of course we dont want the Fudge Pack picking any higher than they have to.
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I want the Packers to win out (except for this weekend) - gets them out of a top 10 draft pick in round 1.
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Peckers lose and the Motor City Kittie win an easy one....Peckers in last place.
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Yep, because the Queens lost in Seattle last night they drop to 2.5 games back of the Bears with 3 to play. They have to win out and we have to lose out for them to win the division. So by beating the Pack Sunday they are mathematically eliminated.
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And, Chicago has always been Lambeau south for Rogers and Favre..
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Better knock Rogers out early. You can bet his game plan is to spank the Bears to show the world that they are a contender now that McCarthy is gone..
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If the Bears beat green Bay they win the division next week no matter what the Vikings do.
WOW! What a great game. Put GB out of its misery and clinch the division at the same time in Chicago! PARTY TIME!!!
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If the Bears beat green Bay they win the division next week no matter what the Vikings do.
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They say a couple days before they can comment on Bryce Callahan's "foot".
What exactly takes a couple days to diagnose? Certainly not a broken bone. Guess they are waiting until the Wednesday injury report.
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Queens go down 2.5 games to the Bears
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Mack was also back in coverage last night.
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Agree about giving Mack a break. He was huffing pretty good near the end. it's got to take a tremendous amount of energy trying to constantly get around under through a 300+ tackle/guard. Snap after snap after snap.
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So Trubisky statistically had the worst game of his career.
SCORE cited an analysis that after 13 games the Bears 2018 defense is in the top 10 of all time.
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davebear
I think only Trubiky, the Bears coaches and the medical staff really know the status of his shoulder - we can only guess base on his play. They aren't going to be 100% truthful.
McManis is a huge liability at cornerback but I think we can get by with him at nickel. In the few games he's been on the field he's done well. But he's in no way a Bryce Callahan.
The Rams D-line is pretty much Aaron Donald. He's got half the team's sacks. But Suh and Brockers are not pass rushing threats...3.5 and 1 sack on the year respectively. Aside from Donald their strength is their defensive backfield but overall it's a middle of the road defense.
Stripping the ball out of the QB's hands is a sack.
Bears had all sorts of defensive alignments up front. They'd played more 3-4 last night than they have recently. In a 3-4 when you rush 4 one of the LBers has to drop back. Rushing the passer takes a lot of energy. Bears often gave Mack and Floyd a break by letting them drop into coverage.
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As to Trubisky, he said in his interview last night he was "amped Up" and "needs to settle down. I think he's like a lot of young QB's have been historically that they try too hard and lose their mechanics. He needs a shot of whiskey before the game.
It's hard to figure his bad throws were due to the injury because he was throwing hard. Strangely, I heard analysis of Cam Newton after yesterdays game and they were discussing that he has a bad shoulder. Newton is also throwing hard but overthrowing.
McMannis led the team in tackles with 7. But I think opponents will be targeting him if he has to play.
I'm still scratching my head how this OL so effectively blocked by far the best DL it has faced. AARON DONALD was in the game and looked just average.
Collinsworth pointed out the fact that Trevathan and Smith have enough speed so the Bears don't need to bring their safeties up for the short passing game like other teams. Pace knew what he was doing.
Does Mack get credit for a sack when he knocked the ball out of Goff's hands?
Beerfan, I think the reason Mack is dropped into coverage sometimes is because he sometimes is triple teamed. There's not much chance of getting a pass rush through that. I see he just drops into coverage and you see two OL and a tight end standing there with no one to block.
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Yep...usually the high throws are from throwing off your back foot. That's all mechanics.
The way I understand it is Mitch needed a lot of work on mechanics earlier in the year and pre-season. I am just guessing the time off has lead to more bad habits.
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I think Mitch's shoulder injury was a lot worse than what they let on. If I'm Nagy, depending on how Mitch feels today, I think about sitting him a couple more weeks. He could skip the Packers game and come back for the 9'ers. If his shoulders good, then great, get him the reps..
I agree - it was worse, but the fact that he was OVER throwing receivers tells me its more rust/mechanics than it was pain/weakness. Assuming the shoulder is sound he needs more reps not less.
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Funny listening to NFLN game day - those guys were laughing at Rodgers expecting a Roughing call when ATL nearly pulled his helmet off...
Said "You don't get the calls when you're not winning"
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I am not so sure on the high throws, sometimes they are because of bad footwork/mechanics or just nerves. Whatever the cause, he really needs to get it together.
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Really good win for the franchise. If we have to play them again in the playoffs, we better find some offense. It will be a different game. Their place, warmer weather, and they now know they better bring their A game. Priority in the offseason, find a new kicker..
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I think Mitch's shoulder injury was a lot worse than what they let on. If I'm Nagy, depending on how Mitch feels today, I think about sitting him a couple more weeks. He could skip the Packers game and come back for the 9'ers. If his shoulders good, then great, get him the reps..
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My guess is the shoulder is still bothering him. I kinda figured Mitch's problem was more serious than what the Bears were letting the fans and media know And the throws told me he had more problems than rust.
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He was doing that before the injury.
Still beats watching Cutler throw balls into the dirt...
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Mitch over threw receivers all game....that's either:
1. not enough practice
2. Shoulder is bothering him
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Scattershootings...
- according to Pro Football Focus the Rams LT LG RG and RT were all ranked 3 or 4 at their position in the NFL. Bears interior d-line had one of their best games - not just Hicks but Bullard, Goldman, and Ray-Robertston Harris.
- NFL network start'em sit'em said to start Brandin Cooks 3 catches 22 yards and to sit Jodan Howard (he's on the list just about every week) 19 for 101 (I'm thinking that that 4th rounder is solidifying once the Bears trade him in a couple months)
- Offensive line did a fantastic job, not just Daniels, all of them, Leno and Massey kept the pocket clean, Witzmann had some good blocks and Whitehair had some great pulls that opened up huge holes. Aaron Donald for league MVP?
- Trubisky rust was apparent - way off - even on those sideways easy throws. Announcers said he had a dislocated shoulder which is much worse than the day to day stuff Nagy was telling the media. I was almost hoping they brought in Chase Daniel at one point as everybody was doing their job except #10
- I don't like to look ahead...but Bears not only could face the Rams again but they might have back to back home and home games against the Vikings. Yeah, bring that dome team to Soldier Field in January.
- Sherrick McManus has surprised me with his play on defense - I have been down on him the last couple of years but he's doing well. Still hoping Callahan's foot injury is not a break and just a sprain.
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Watched most of the Packers game yesterday. Whenever ATL defenders breathed on Jimmy Graham, flags flew from Walt Coleman’s crew, almost like they had a point of emphasis.
Hopefully the Bears push through all that and get a decisive win Sunday.
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Must have been the weather
I heard that discussion both pregame talk and during the game from Collinsworth. That was going to be a factor in a Bears win. That had an effect I'm sure, like the heat had in the Miami loss
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Yeah, in Lamblow, but this will be in Soldier Field. And the Bears are on the rise and the Pack arent. I think we might see more calls against the Pack. I think we should see less Pack homer calls from the zebras.
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Wshfl, um you know the Pack doesnt ever get holding calls called against them, right?
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Yes the Bears made Gurley pretty much a non-factor, which I was happy about. We sure didnt do that against Barkley. We sure need to finish off the Pack. If the defense shows up the same as it did against the Rams, Erin is in deep do do. Their Oline is in bad shape. Gonna be lots of holding calls. And the Pack wont be able to protect Erin. Sack city
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So it is showing true that the D especially likes to play on the big stage, big game. Of course that bodes well, as once we get to the playoffs, they are all big games. Mitch on the other hand, not so great, although I am hoping it is just rust. I would love nothing more than a resounding win over the Pack, and maybe Erin goes out and doesnt return, that wouldnt hurt my feelings at all. I still have this big smile on my face from last night though.
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I can't recall Goff trying to throw way down field may be more than once it was a 20 yarder.
Gurly stats: 11 rushes and 28 yards.
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Must have been the weather
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Field goals aren't going to cut it against the Rams. We need TD's.
Apparently not. Just a couple of FGs and a Safety would have done the trick.
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Ram O line was holding all game....nothing.
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Nice Bear hug there...
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Few things:
1. agreed - Our defensive backfield is amazing - Goff had a real hard time finding anyone open.
2. I am still mad Nagy did not play Trubisky against the Giants - he was very rusty today. Did you notice Nagy did not trust him to throw the last 2 drives?
3. WHY does Mack have to go back in coverage???
4. When is Parkey packey his bags?
5. O line seemed better this game.
6. I THREE passes were Goff should have been called for intentional grounding.
7. Out D line against the run was top notch.
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And the Pack still won today
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Next up- smash the friggin Quack. Grind them into dust 👍👍
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Hail to Fangio!
BTW the Pack had 3 starting Ol out today.
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"Where have you gone, Robbie Gould?"
I believe we see him in 2 weeks.
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Please Bears......next week we have to finish off the Pack. No more crapping the bed. The season aint over yet.
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I am just so thrilled for the win tonight. Its a proud night to be a Bear fan. The Monsters of the Midway came to play tonight. Shut the vaulted Ram offense down in the 2nd half. The Bears blitzkrieged the Rams to begin the 2nd half and it was lights out.
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The defensive backfield, that so many of us worried about in the off season, has been a strength of this team. And it is hard to find serious fault with the linebackers. But the defense will live or die with the pass rush.
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I'm with ya, Boogie lol. Feel the same way. Totally amped
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I have a feeling it is going to be hard to get to sleep tonight. I am super amped up. Now the only thing that would be better than this game would be putting the dagger in the heart of the fudge packers next sunday.
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Wow, what a great win for the D. Mitch, not so much. If we can shut down the Rams, albeit in Soldier Field in the cold, who cant we shut down? Kind of stoked about the D, and as they get more confidence, they will get better. I hope Callahan is ok and can come back soon.
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What Jeff posted is astounding what this D did tonight. The number one D just shut down the best team in the league.
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Fun Bears! Loving this season for sure!
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Great win! The defense was lights out!
Hopefully Trubisky can get squared away before the next game.
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Think I can finally breath lol.
GO BEARS!!! Would have loved to be at this game
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Sure as hell can play defense. Someone a while back said this team could play with anybody including
The rams you were right f
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Rams points scored this season:
33
34
35
38
33
23
39
29
35
36
54
30
6
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What a great feeling!
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Looking pretty good for the Bears right now.
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"Where have you gone, Robbie Gould?"
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That kick would have sealed it. Dangit...
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Parkey sucks ass!
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I keep waiting for them to blow it.... been a fan too long!
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4mins till I can breath lol
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Bears!!!!
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I am guessing the Rams don't want to face the Bears in the playoffs.
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Love this defense!
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On the other hand, think they're a bit gun-shy with Tru's arm
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Needed to get in FG range there. Not good. Tiring out our D doing this and that's not smart with Gurley on the other side
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Still want to trade howard for a fourth?
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DOINK!!!!
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Mack is looking winded. Need a nice long drive from the offense. Missed FG!!! Yes!
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DOINK! NO GOOD!!!
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Love a win more. Need this
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Loving the home field advantage and the crowd noise.
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C'mon Bears
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Don't let Gurley get going
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One more quarter! Finish strong, Bears!!!👍👍
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How bout another safety lol
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His deep balls are just not right. Not sure why he has such problems with them. Crazy
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I think Trubisky is nervous.
He needs to realize he has plenty of talent
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Lol, Fuller saves the day alright.
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Fuller, pro bowl!!
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Crazy game.
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Yep, those deep throws are getting away from him. Wth
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Fuller saves the day!
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Fuckin' Trubisky. WTF?
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His deeper routes are still high. Seen like there getting away from him abit
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Too many of those side line routes...
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Need this first. Playing for field position here
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Too bad Callahan still not out there
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If the Bears win this, they will prove to this league they could go all the way. Rams are the best team in the league.
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Part of me wishes they could just pound Howard in there, but the tricks are fun and they work so far.
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Fun to watch. Not a grim death march to the off season
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Win or lose this team is pretty close
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This is so far from over though. Rams are still a very dangerous team
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Love it lol 👍👍👍👍
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We see your trick play and trump it!
TD BEARS!
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Dav23 that is the Ol pulling and schemes i wantd to see more of
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Man, where were these Bears first half?? Get aTD here!
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Put this away!! Go Bears!!!!!
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Know where the first is and run past it!
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Goldman!
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WOoT!! Couldn't have started better!!!!
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Goldman with the safety! YES!!!
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I hope this ends well, but..
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Well, they've at least proven then can run with the best for at least a half of football. Rams are going to try to get Gurley going second half. This will be the key. If the D can stop him, Bears can win. We all know what happens if they can't...
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Thank God for Mack
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I dont think Mitch's shoulder is right. Hope I am wrong.
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Mitch better get his head out of his asss and shake off the rust. Seriously. The D is keeping us in this game, but for how long? I dont have high hopes for Nagy/Fangio and their half time adjustments. And I hate Sunday night games.
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Bah. And as the cherry on top, I’m out of tammiflu.
Best make some “adjustments “ for the next half boys.
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They get the ball but it's gone fairly well so far except for Tru's turnovers. Gotta get Tru more runs to keep the ball moving
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The offense is really stalled
We'll see if Nagy has effective adjustments
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Dodged that bullet.
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Threw it right to them. Fricking Trubisky
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WTF Mitch? That was an asinine throw!
Jeff Horn thinks it was.
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Now they will kick another long field goal before half and they get the ball the second half. Stupid.
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Great 2min drill...ugh....run and let the clock run down. Take your time, is not urgent or anything 🙄
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WTF Mitch? That was an asinine throw!
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And now the Bears run over a ref and screw themselves again.
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Ever see a ref flop? You have now... That was ridiculous!!!
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Mitch Cutler can't get the ball to a receiver standing five feet from him. Meanwhile, Mahomes might get elected into the HOF before he retires.
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D is playing rock solid so far.
The O has been mediocre mostly because of Mitch. Also when you get 10 yard run on 1st down, next play should be a run, not a pass....pay attention Nagy.
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No one misses Field goals against the Bears. Only the Bears miss field goals in Bear games...
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How long has it been since one of the Bears opponents missed a 50 plus yard FG?
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Here we go, down the field...😡
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First down easily
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F those stupid trick plays...
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Now they get a first down with a fake punt. Come on guys!
They do that ALL the time. Be prepared for it.
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6-3 Bears!
Got to knock off the stupid penalties and dumb throws. Field goals aren't going to cut it against the Rams. We need TD's.
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Terrible series...FG when they needed aTD
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Mitch Cutler.
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Another one?!??
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Really guys?? Stupid penalties!! Need to score here, not go backwards
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YES!!! Think the weather's getting to Goff lol
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YES!!!
First and goal Bears!
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Stay away from those quick sideline routes! They are sitting on those and they will pick one for a TD if they keep going to it.
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So i guess an OL wrapping his arms around Macks neck isn't holding tonight.
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Nice play by Floyd. Hopefully he can beat that OL more tonim
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3-3. Now let's see how the D does when the Rams don't have a short field.
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Tru throwing picks because of rust will kill their chances. No more...
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Down with flu. This just adds to it.
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MACK!
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And there's the rust.... This is going to be a loss...
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And a rusty Trubisky throws a pick.
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Let’s go Bearsss!
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Biggest game of the season so far. Here we go...
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GO BEARS!!!!!!!!
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I don't agree. We have no idea how bad the shoulder is, and with a franchise quarterback, it is much better to be super safe than super sorry. Losing one or two games is much better than losing two or three seasons waiting to replace him.
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I don't believe the shoulder was that bad - Nagy made a major mistake giving him the second game off. Nagy got too cute on that one.
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The last time we lost a game we were not supposed to followed by a game we were supposed to (MIA/NE) we went on to win 5 in a row. If we lose tonight but win the next 5 in a row, that wouldnt be so bad.....just saying.
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Well the one thing I am really interested in is watching how Vic F game plans tomorrow. He has always in my mind been the best DC to slow down hot offenses the last 8 years or so. I can remember in S.F. them stopping GB when it seemed no one could. I also am interested to see the offensive game plan. How does Nagy perform as H.C. I think this game will tell us a lot more about our coaches than our players. I think I know what we have or do not have on the player side. Definitely the biggest game I can remember since the Lovie days. Its great to finally be back into relevance as a team. Wish I could be at the game tomorrow!
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If anything Trubisky is probably in better shape than he was before the injury. He may be a bit rusty early on but its like riding a bicycle his muscle memory will kick in.
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also we don't know that his shoulder is 100% or just good enough to play.
If he has any limited range of motion he may not have full accuracy
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If he plays, absolutely the rust will be a factor and they really can't have anything in the way in this game. They need to be able to play lights out at a very high level. This game has me worried....
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One of the biggest things that worries me is Trubisky being rusty. Other than that, I can see us having a pretty good chance..
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Didn't fare so well after our bye with the trip to Miami either.
Maybe it's better the Bears don't get one of those top seeds in the playoffs.
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Prevent defense prevents you from winning.
My bad on the coin toss.
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And we should've been well rested with 10 days rest..
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Then our Defense let them march right down the field and kick the FG..
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The giants won the coin toss in OT and took the ball...
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Looks like Rams favored by 4
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Exactly...
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I thought Bears called tails and it came up heads....regardless Giants made the plays to get their field goal.
Time to put this one to bed - on to the Rams.
Let's discuss their weaknesses and how the Bears can take advantage of them.
OK...well...it sure was wet in New York last sunday...
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Too many points as well.....although 7 of those were on Daniel.
3 on Nagy for calling times out with 17 seconds left sand gave the momentum back to NYG. 3 more on Nagy for defering the ball to NYG in OT.
AND - Fangio needs to stops rushing 3 guys in crucial times.
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I think that's fair to say of Daniel. I still go back to the D.. Gave up too many 10 yard plays..
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I saw most of the game that I missed (still haven't seen the 3Q) last night.
Even with the two picks I think Chase Daniel wins the game if not for the fumbled snaps (slippery ball/eyes off the snap/low snap). I was impressed with the comeback attempt and I really have no issues with Chase Daniel...as a backup QB, that is.
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garbage
I wouldn't call that game garbage. Disappointing yes but it was exciting. It sucked losing but it was fun coming back.
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The replay of the Giants game is just starting on NFLN if anyone wants to relive that garbage...
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Yeah, they made the ball slippery. Even with the 2 picks - you take away those 4 or 5 fumbles and its a different outcome.
Don't give too much credit to the Giants defense - they still gave up 27 points. Lions defense didn't get any turnovers but still held the Bears' Daniel led offense to 16 points.
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Can't have Daniel play again - too much tape on him. The Defensive Coordinators know how to make him feel uncomfortable in the pocket - the Giants DC did a great job making Daniel uncomfortable.
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Bears are essentially a 4-2-5 defense. They play a lot of nickel. So instead of 3 hefty d-lineman in there, we only have 2 paired with 2 undersized DEs and only 2 backers.
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When the Rams played at Denver a couple months ago, it was 25 degrees at game time. Goff was mediocre, but Gurley destroyed Denver with 208 yards and 2 TD.
I thought the Blount BS was an outlier, but the run defense has definitely slipped the last few weeks.
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This is the Bears defining moment.Are we just a contender this year or are we legit.In my mind we win this game against the Rams in our stadium and we are the real deal. If we come close,better luck next year.Period!
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There's reasons the Rams only have one loss.
Maybe they'll get cold or Donald won't feel like playing, but they have a lot of weapons and are getting Talib back at corner.
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Maybe they will have a little let down after clinching the division last week.
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Rams are due for a loss and if Trubisky plays, they will lose this one. With Tru, Bears 27 Hams 20. W/Daniel.....well....
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Sunday...high of 32 and sunny. Low of 21 degrees. HEHEHEHE....happens to be a night game. HAHAHHAHA. I think this helps us a lot.
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As for the Rams - maybe it will be really cold and the Rams will feel homesick for their warm California climate.
That would be a plus were that to happen
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Let's see what the reports are out of Halas Hall on Trubisky this week - if he's working with the first team offense and making a bunch of throws he should be good to go. Encouraged that he was throwing the ball last sunday before the game. If he had serious damage or pain - he wouldn't be doing that.
As for the Rams - maybe it will be really cold and the Rams will feel homesick for their warm California climate.
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Thats a very acceptable worry.
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The good news is that Mack is always amped up for a prime time game, so Sunday night should be right up his alley to shine. BUT....can we stop Gurley, that is the question.
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The worry to me at this point is whether the Bears can run the ball and whether Trubisky can stay healthy. The D plays better with a lead and with fumblehands blowing it right off the bat for a int TD, that put them behind the eight ball. Daniel was responsible for FOUR fumbles. Crazy ridiculous. If Tru can't go vs Rams, Bears will find it hard to win that game. Not impossible, but the D needs to play lights out.
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The timeout succked!!! And the Giants made Daniel uncomfortable in the pocket all day - the Giants Defensive Coordinator said all we need was film on him. Daniel's inability to run or throw the ball away - plus FOUR fumbles that lead to loses killed him as well.
Daniel is a smart QB but he's just not Trubisky physically - the Giants didn't do anything special other than playing our receivers a bit tighter knowing that Daniel may not be as comfortable or as capable throwing into tighter windows.
Next stop - the Rams. I'd like to see someone besides Mack, Floyd and Hicks get pressure on the QB. I've said this before about Nichols, Bullard, Goldman and Robertson-Harris.
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Exactly!
As soon as I saw the 3 man front on 3rd and 23, I started cussing. WTF? After two straight sacks, we're gonna do that? Really?
The Giants were clearly going to run the ball, not take another sack, and punt it away. And we let them off the f'n hook...
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Let's be honest. It wasn't the time out that sucked. It was the Defense giving up 22 yards on 3rd and 23 AND letting him get out of bounds to stop the clock.
New York Giants at 1:14
1-10-NYG 43 (1:14) (Shotgun) E.Manning sacked at NYG 36 for -7 yards (L.Floyd).
2-17-NYG 36 (:52) (No Huddle, Shotgun) E.Manning sacked at NYG 30 for -6 yards (A.Hicks).
Timeout #2 by CHI at 00:17.
3-23-NYG 30 (:17) S.Barkley up the middle pushed ob at CHI 48 for 22 yards (R.Smith).
4-1-CHI 48 (:06) (Shotgun) E.Manning pass short right to R.Ellison pushed ob at CHI 39 for 9 yards (D.Houston-Carson). P4
1-10-CHI 39 (:01) A.Rosas 57 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-Z.DeOssie, Holder-R.Dixon.
If they throw and it's complete they run out of time. If they try to run and he is tackled in bounds they run out of time. If they try to throw and it's incomplete they have to punt. He was planning on going all out for the punt block. I like the thinking and it may have lead to another score for us. The Defense screwed the pooch on that. Not the Coach.
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The timeout succked!!! And the Giants made Daniel uncomfortable in the pocket all day - the Giants Defensive Coordinator said all we need was film on him. Daniel's inability to run or throw the ball away - plus FOUR fumbles that lead to loses killed him as well.
Bottom line - it's next to impossible to win in the NFL with a backup QB.....but here was Nick Foles.
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I've been just watching the first half of the Bears/Giants game. Daniels sucks Mizzell,or whatever his name is has no business on an NFL field and Nagy's timeout at the end of the first half have me wondering what contrasts him from a one celled ameba?We outplayed the Giants one sidedly. We have the obviously better team so how did we lose? I will admit Nagy makes some gutsy calls,I like that,however,I think he shows a favoritism to players he's coached,in the past, that clouds his better judgement.I am not anti-Nagy,but,he better learn from his false alliances.
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And BTW the 49ers haven't got anything special out of Soloman Thomas. Smug ba$tard John Lynch.
Not to mention their other first round pick from that year they just cut. Everyone that was claiming he was ripping the bears off And John Lynch was a much more superior GM and smarter than Pace.
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Davebear, exactly. The run blocking has to improve because it's pretty much dismal at this point, as you said, the only time he got space to run was going away from the play. Heistand should have these guys playing at a high level at this point, but they definitely aren't.
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Not the longest run he had, but the best run Howard had was one over right tackle where Leno had pulled right and led the way for him...looked like Bears football to me...I think I even said that in Today’s Game right after the play.
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Daniels lack of game experience showed.
Even though he's been in the league 9 years game experience counts.
He was a tick late on nearly all his throws. You could see open receivers having to wait for the ball and the downfield throws were late and short.
Otherwise the plays were there for the Bears.
The other thing is run blocking, or the lack of it. Our interior line either gets completely beat with tacklers in the backfield or gets stymied at the line of scrimmage for short gains. I hate to say this, but I liked the way the last offensive scheme under Loggains moved linemen around to create blocking mismatches which caused Howard to excel. I don't see much of that creative pulling anymore. Howard's only success is when he sees an opening away from where the play is designed to go.
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The Giants D coordinator said they wanted to make Daniel look uncomfortable....and they did.
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...and eat his lunch too.
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Someone tell Fangio....do not rush 3 guys unless you want the opponent's QB to have enough time check his email on his iPhone before attempting a pass.
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Also - you can't turn the ball over 3 times with your backup QB playing.
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Dave23....that so maddening wasn't it? THROW THE BALL AWAY!!!! But, he is a backup for a reason.
I do believe Trubisky could have started. Nagy was getting too cute there and thought he could get away with it. I heard the Giants D coordinator just need some film on Daniel to know how to beat him.
Once the NFL gets film on you......you better have an answer.
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Wasn't it just last season that Glennon was our starter. Who the hell was in charge of that?
Which is why I was hoping we would draft Trubisky, though he might not have been the best value at 2 he addressed a huge need. And BTW the 49ers haven't got anything special out of Soloman Thomas. Smug ba$tard John Lynch.
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Not me. ;D
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Wasn't it just last season that Glennon was our starter. Who the hell was in charge of that?
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Yeah we've all seen our overabundance of duds instead of studs
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I will say this though. I can remember a time that we would've loved to have Daniel as our starter, let alone backup. Remember Quinn
Too true...we've all been here long enough to have seen much, much worse than what Chase Daniel brings to the table.
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Yes Grossman-like. I hadnt thought of it till mentioned.
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I will say this though. I can remember a time that we would've loved to have Daniel as our starter, let alone backup. Remember Quinn
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Maybe has small hands too - he was having more problems than anyone else with the slippery balls
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His pocket presence and ability to get rid of the ball when necessary was awful. Seemed as if I was yelling most of the game "throw the damn ball away".. Yes, the fumbles snaps were jaw dropping.. Rex Grossman?
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I keep thinking the rain/drizzle had a lot to do with Daniel performance yesterday. Not making excuses for him, but he did say in his presser the ball was a little slick.
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See Daniel attributes...short, average arm, lack of game experience...the picks come with the territory but fumbling 4 or 5 snaps?
We see the value of Trubisky even more now....sure he has some issues in finding that secondary receiver but often he turns a bad play into a nice gain when he scrambles for yardage or at least enough to escape the sack.
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......and not throw interceptions.
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Daniel is a career backup with virtually no starting experience in his entire career aside from the Detroit game. Plus he's short, doesn't possess Trubisky's big arm or his escapability athleticism.
You can't expect a 100 rating game out of Daniel 2 weeks in a row - but you do expect a QB to at least catch the damn snap.
And to throw the damn ball away rather than taking a sack...
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Daniel is a career backup with virtually no starting experience in his entire career aside from the Detroit game. Plus he's short, doesn't possess Trubisky's big arm or his escapability athleticism.
You can't expect a 100 rating game out of Daniel 2 weeks in a row - but you do expect a QB to at least catch the damn snap.
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Yep - need all 3 phases to perform well in order to win
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And as I rightfully said last week and I doubt anybody recalls it I said that now there is tape on Daniel. The cat was out of the bag. No surprises. The Ji Ants were ready and waiting for Daniel.
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That's why I was worried about this game. Bears offense is not a juggernaut by any means. In fact, the last 2 wins were decided by defensive scores.
The offense did put up 27 but in today's NFL you can't always count on your defense to totally shut down opponents and certainly can't expect them to score points.
Daniel almost pulled it out - made a lot of plays, but not enough to overcome his own errors.
As for the defense 30 is a lot to give up. But if you take away the 3 in OT, the 7 when they weren't on the field, and another 3 (I believe) after Gabriel fumbles deep in Bears' territory...that's 17 points which in today's NFL is damn good.
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I kept waiting (and I bet I'm not the only one) for a late pick 6 or a strip, scoop, and score by the Bears defense...
Of course you can't depend on stuff like that, but it sure was a major factor the last couple games prior.
Yeah, I was waiting....bigtime....but the Ji Ants have a future HOF QB and it didnt happen
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I kept waiting (and I bet I'm not the only one) for a late pick 6 or a strip, scoop, and score by the Bears defense...
Of course you can't depend on stuff like that, but it sure was a major factor the last couple games prior.
Exactly... I just knew it was going to happen.. Just never did..
Manning had too much time.. And Daniel was rushing the whole game..
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I kept waiting (and I bet I'm not the only one) for a late pick 6 or a strip, scoop, and score by the Bears defense...
Of course you can't depend on stuff like that, but it sure was a major factor the last couple games prior.
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I kept waiting for a Giants’ safety to try to intercept one of those wheel routes they kept allowing to Coen...
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Any given Sunday...
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It definitely would as I had counted that as most likely a loss and still think that is most likely a loss. A win against the Rams I would class as a major upset.
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Redemption would be beating the Rams..
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That and there weren't any serious injuries, right? Plus Trubisky is coming back.
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While I am disappointed that we had a chance to gain some ground today, the good thing is we didnt lose any ground as the Queens and Pack both lost.
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True, but the Bears need to take care of business or there still is still a possibility they'll miss out on the playoffs and be watching from home...
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I am not going to let this game ruin a great season. They put up a tough fight. NY is now 4-1 since their bye week? They have been playing good ball lately.
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Fudge Pack just fired Mike McCarthy. Sweet, today is not a total disaster.
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WHY on earth did they call a time out with 17 seconds left in the first half??? that really hurt and gave momentum to th Giants who were down and out before Barley's long run.
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Well quite some game, I had to listen to it on radio as here in FL we did not get the broadcast. I posted with 2 minutes left and thought the game was done. I went to the gym and they were on television playing in OT. I feel like they lost 2 games today. LOL. I just watched the highlights on youtube. For anyone that does not know. They always have the entire game highlights on youtube. It took me 13 minutes to watch the game.
Lots of mistakes by a lot of different Bears. Total team loss, even the coaches did not call a great game. However I will say coming back to score 10 points not the road with your backup QB with 2 minutes left in game...that's impressive.
Minny and GB lost today. We still are in control of the NFC North. Most everyone here said if we make the playoffs its a great year. Looking like we are going to do that. I could even see us winning the first game at home. Our team is young, one of the youngest in the NFL. We do not play well on the road. We will need to learn how to win on the road, especially during playoff intensity and atmosphere.
This year is fun. Next year is the year we have legit shot at winning it all. We need a stud RB that fits Nagy's system. We need another above average OL. We need to be able to run the ball better.
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Our safeties and Smith and travathen were terrible tacklers.
We did NOT consistently put pressure on Manning....had time too often. Not sure why Mack drops back in cover - ever.
The Giants D holds every play - blatant - it called a few times.
Sitting Trubisky cost us this game....you can't turn the ball over 3 times with your backup QB.
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well that sux. If the Vikes lose though, no harm no foul right? Everything stays the same ?
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Mizzell was out there way too much. Daniel was focused on Cohen and ARob almost exclusively.
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Both Barkley and Howard had Barry Sanders type days...a lot of 1 and 2 yard runs with a couple of 20 and 30 yarders thrown in...
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Saw most of the first half, missed the entire second half, but caught most of OT.
Looking at the stats...Burton no targets? Anthony Miller 2 targets? Cohen 14 targets. 5 sacks?
And Howard ended up with the same stats he had in the first half.
Again, didn't see the second half but Trubisky better be ready.
I thought the Bears had Barkley under control. Should I even watch the second half?
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Giants have the two best offensive playmakers on the field and our backup QB played bad. Those two things usually guarantee a loss in today's NFL
Lots of things went terribly wrong today and they still had to go to OT to lose. I don't see how you can watch this game and decide to panic and get overly upset over the bears prospects this year.
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Actually the Giants have been putting it together the last few weeks. I was warned by Cowboy fans at work that Barkley was a stud.
They can't win every game. This season has been fantastic!
None of us expected them to be as good as they are. Be frustrated with the loss but enjoy the season.
To go .500 with your back up QB is about as good as you can expect.
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And you left out... The Giants were a 3 and 8 team... playing a top 5 defense (ours)
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The overreactions are pretty funny. Going on the road with your backup QB rarely works out.
-Tackling was bad again. Jackson in particular was awful.
- multiple bad exchanges between Daniel and whitehair hurt
-two inexcusable blown coverages resulting in TD passes
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So we have the second highest paid cornerback tandem in the league.. Let that sink in..
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I'm sure as hell not counting on the division. If we can win next week, maybe..
What's the gimme games? Niners? Out there?
Packers playing in Lambeau south?
Rams?
Vikings?
We're 8 and 4, go .500 the last 4. Makes us 10 and 6... Wow!! We better play a cream puff the 1st playoff game... Oh wait..
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I look at the D as the anchor of this team.. Well they played like shit, giving up big play after big play.
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The defense has a tendency to give up big plays at the worst possible time....
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Exactly:
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To summarize the officiating on that drive: Premature whistle wiping out a Cohen TD, blatant missed delay of game, missed PI in the end zone and a bad block in the back call.
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Oh and that play where they whistled Cohen down, um no, he wasnt touched at all. Just a total cluster. It would be nice if things went our way next sunday night, but I wont hold my breathe.
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So now we got the Hams coming to town so it don't get no easier. Trubisky will be cold IF he plays so could be a tough start. D absolutely has to step up. Didn't see much from Mack today. Will definitely need him next week!
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I counted at least 10 penalties against the Giants that were NOT called. More like a fudge Packers game. We were close, but still. When the refs decide the outcome, it really drives me insane. At least we made it to OT. AND the Fudge Pack lost. Now if only the Queens can lose, it wont be a total disaster. But yeah, we lose to the Rams next week, after we shiit the bed on this trap game today. Still pissses me off.
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Well they got what they deserved. You play like manure thats what you get
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Huge underdog just beat the Bears.....get Daniel the hell outta there! Trubisky has to play for this team to make any noise this season.
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Popgun arm....late on the pasd again to lose
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Cohen in pass protection...good call!
Shitty performance.
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Please tell me Tru is back next week.....we need his mobility and his arm!
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Awful...
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Daniel, WTH?!?? Watch the snap, bozo!
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Had to take Cohen out of the game on 4th and long to keep Daniel from throwing him a 3 yard pass on 4th and long...pitiful!
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Good thing Daniel ain't the QB. Bears would be lucky to be 8-8 with the guy....
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Daniel is the cause of this if they lose. He couldn't keep the O driving and his stupid turnovers and now the D is gassed....
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Bears playing stupid football 101
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Wow, just speechless...
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How long has it been since the Bears recovered an onside kick? 2001?
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I've got the stomach flu,,,, hangin off the edge of the toilet trying to see the TV... Wow!!
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Out of the jaws of defeat we miraculously get a tie
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Wow...they don’t quit
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Holy fukkin sh!t!!
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OT!!!
Oh and Packers lost to the Cardinals.
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Miller Time!
YES!!!!!
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TD BEARS!
Watch Parkey miss the xp.
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LOL, where’s Hicks?
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Fuck, Gabriel’s gotta catch that!
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LOL, how does that same Cohen play keep working?