Check out the failure rate for frist round QB draftees:
Posted by Mike Florio on April 16, 2011, 10:24 AM EDT
Greg Cosell’s observation that teams with needs at quarterback could reach for quarterbacks in round one of the draft has caused us to wonder whether the raw number of quarterbacks taken in round one could eclipse the all-time record for first-round quarterbacks.
The high-water mark came in 1983, when six quarterbacks became first-round picks: John Elway, Todd Blackledge, Jim Kelly, Tony Eason, Ken O’Brien, and Dan Marino (pictured).
In 28 years since then, only one class had as many as five. In 1999, Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper, and Cade McNown exited the board in round one. All five were picked in the first 12 selections, with the next quarterback — Shaun King — drafted 38 spots later.
Four quarterbacks were drafted in the first round of three other drafts. In 1987, Vinny Testaverde, Kelly Stouffer, Chris Miller, and Jim Harbaugh were picked in the first round. In 2003, it was Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, and Rex Grossman. Most recently, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, and J.P. Losman entered the league via round one in 2004.
Bears may dodge a bullet on the Tampa game scheduled in London:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/18/london-game-will-be-moved-to-tampa-if-lockout-doesnt-end-by-august-1/
It can stil be pretty brutal late October, but I'd take my chances then over the guarantee fry fest in early September.
The late years of the Sombrero were always well attended by both the Bears and Packers fans. I bought season 4 tickets to the Bucs when we moved there in 1996. They had a 4 pack deal that you could purchase the whole season at about the 5 yard line for, get this... $600. I kid you not, 4 full season tickets for $150 each. It was two years before the Bucs would move to RJ so I jumped on that as a way to see the Bears every year, as well as a lot of the other teams that I had never seen.
Two years later, our new seats were abouve the visitor tunnel down by the ship and I think the price went to $33/ticket. I was splitting the cost with 3 other guys so no sweat, but literally it was like 2 years and the league realigned the Bucs out of the Central >:( We held onto the seats long enough to cover our seat deposit for 10 years, and then cut bait. The price went to $99/seat the year we dumped them - it was like a $25/seat increase. Thos last years, I would just go to one game with the family and sell my others at face.
Grizz, maybe I'm wrong but hasn't the economy of the state in Florida pretty much tanked big-time under the fine leadership of our current President?
If the locals are struggling to pay their bills it's going to be pretty hard for pro sports franchises to squeeze a lot of shekels out of them, I'm thinking. Especially in Florida where there are so many other ways you can spend sunny Sunday afternoons for free.
Having fans of opposing teams come to Tampa may be that franchise's only shot at having a reasonably filled stadium from one Sunday to the next.
If the nfl turns into a richest-man-wins league, I won't watch.
irregardless.?
Was warching WGN for the 6:00 news and they anounced Judge Nelson ruled for a lifting of the lockout. Bet that gets appealed
At least half of these NFL players wouldn't have even passed their college entrance exams and/or graduated if not for their value to their schools on the football field. Even if the owners open their books... seriously, how many of the players are even going to know what they're seeing?
You mean the players dont have access to lawyers that are experts in the financial field? I believe they can have access to experts to evaluate the books properly
What was it Forrest Gump said?
Who says there wont be a draft?
The NFL has always had a draft. I cant believe the draft will be history
If they get their way it will be like baseball with no salary cap and the richest teams buying titles.
I would imagine if the judges determine the nfl has to operate as individual companies then the NFL can't require the players to enter the draft can they? I would expect it would be a free for all when they get out of college, shoot they could do just like the nba and mlb and hire guys right out of highschool.
I wonder if Otto would be happy if in his line of work a new kid with no experience could come in on day one and make 10 times what Otto makes and have it guaranteed for 4-5 years even if he turns out to be a total failure.
So Fred was hot for Betty....
Intially the Flintstones were for adults, not kids. Modeled after the honeymooners, it was aired at night, with one of the major sponsers Winston cigarettes. Please see below. A different world in the early 60's,
a different world.
This is nothing new. TO annually is among the league leaders in dropped passes.
But what you don't see is that he had 983 yards and 7 TDs with the Bengals, rebounding from a poor season in Buffalo in 2009. And he had 3 pretty good seasons prior to that with Dallas. Thousand yards each year with 10, 15 and 13 TDs.
He has some baggage but he produces.
THE PRICE IS WRONG, BOB!!
I'm keeping my eye on the FA from Jacksonville. He has a hyphenated name...Sims-Walker?
Or they could go after one of the 2 Jets FA WRs.
Braylon Edwards was among the league "leaders" in drops at least a couple of seasons IIRC, and his character is questionable to say the least. No thanks.
Maybe Brady has peaked. I mean it is gonna be hard to improve on 36 TDs and 4 interceptions in 2010.
Seattle's new uni? Now this is really ugly.
(http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/seahawkslimegreenap.jpg?w=250)
That might br a good idea, jj, if you could control voters so each only votes once.
Packy can you imagine billionaires giving up billions because they dont make millions?
I cant.
I look for absolutely zero time spent by GB on UFAs this season. When the green light goes on they will make a mad dash to sign as many undrafted FAs as possible. They had two unsigned FA starters in last year's playoffs and SB.
Have we reached the point where thay have to cancel the stupid trip to London? I thought I read somewhere that there was a drop dead date on whether that game could be played there.
Tommie Harris is a ****.
Tommy Harris was awesome for a few years but has sucked for a long time now. If Paea plays in the NFL like he did in college look out. He fits the Bears system like no DT I have ever seen.
He gets upfield and creates havoc which is EXACTLY what the Bears want from their DT's. If he does his job Peppers is going to be killing some QB's.
Last year Peppers got pressure on most passing plays that weren't quick throws but the QB had a clean pocket to step up into.
Tommie Harris still a free agent. The lockout can't be helping his chances of being signed.
Regardless whether you think Hub is a bitter prick who's full of sh!t or an insider who knows his sh!t, I thought this was an interesting interview (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/?podcast_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.podtrac.com%2Fpts%2Fredirect.mp3%2Fnyc.podcast.play.it%2Fmedia%2Fd0%2Fd0%2Fd0%2FdY%2Fd6%2Fd0%2Fd4%2FY604_3.MP3%3Fauthtok%3D5561506088227011419_QhmuPOPrSWa7M8kXMIdtTpTlgac&podcast_name=Hub+Arkush+on+The+Danny+Mac+Show&podcast_artist=Danny+Mac&station_id=391&tag=pages&dcid=CBS.CHI) on the labor talks. Rumor mill...Asomugha may be headed to Detroit.
Hmmm, so I can type prick, but co-caine is censored. Go figure.
We need a 45 man roster of WRs ::) ::) ::)
Kolb will be a flop in AZ.
I cant wait for friday when it goes insane.
Haynesworth traded to Pats for 2013 5th rounder
Haynesworth traded to Pats for 2013 5th rounder
This really scares me. What if he plays for Belichick the way he did for Car?
Pats resigns Matt Light (in case that was on somebody's wish list) and are kicking the tires of Tommie Harris.
The Eagles and Pats are really loading up. I think they are better than the Colts, now.
Yeah, I wish the Bears operated that way. ;)
Looks like Orton is staying in Denver this year.
A lot of Denver fans are none too happy about it but the funny thing is, Dolphins fans are bummed too. I think it's pretty obvious that Orton is miles better than any QB on the Fins roster but for whatever reason Elway and the Broncs have gotten cold feet about moving him. Maybe Tebow isn't as far along as they had hoped he'd be.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/bubba-smith-dies-at-66/
Says in the article he played DL at 6'7, 265 and was one of the biggest players in the league at the time.
He would be a TE today at that size.
Anyway... RIP, Hightower.
Dolphin fans chanting for Orton (http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2011/08/01/dolphin-fans-chanting-for-orton/8567/)
My, what a difference 2,000 miles make. The Miami Dolphins held a scrimmage at Dolphin Stadium tonight, and the crowd grew increasingly frustrated with starting quarterback Chad Henne. My buddy Brian Biggane of the Palm Beach Post reported that after Henne under-threw a pass, the fans started chanting “We want Orton!” Quite a change from Broncos camp, where Kyle Orton isn’t booed, but he’s clearly not the crowd favorite either. We haven’t heard any “We want Tebow” chants yet this at Dove Valley, but it is only Aug. 1. Trade talks between Orton, the Broncos and the Dolphins broke down last week. But apparently, Dolphins fans aren’t ready to let the idea go.
If Rodgers is injured. If not, the team shold have traded him, with 20/20 hindsight.
Albert Haynesworth missed his 4th straight day of practice. Guess the nay sayers may be right about him.
Nice to be watching football. Don't even care who it is...
Moving the kickoffs up to where they used to be is going to be frustrating indeed.....
Wasn't aware of the kickoff guys having to start at the 30 yard line (wonder how this will effect those bunch up and pick a side kickoff styles we see once and awhile)....
It may be preseason... but it FOOOOOTTTTBAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHWWWW !
you know and I know that Favre knows how he is supposed to do things he just does it his own way anyway.
I expect Favre's interest in grooming a young QB has more to do with opening other doors than anything else, maybe he is just bored.
I wonder how many Iggle/Steeler fans skipped a heartbeat when Vick threw his body head and shoulder first down low into Polamalu's knees for a tackle on the INT. Talk about a potential season altering play in a game that doesn't matter.
Good to see that Dallas is overrated again. SD up 17-7 at half.
Too bad I'm not a Jets or Giants fan....
MetLife just landed the naming rights to the new stadium. The Meadowlands will now be "MetLife Stadium"
Watching Eggles/Brownies in Philly, Vick is getting the absolute hell beat out of him. 1st qtr, they better pull him or they'll carry him off.
Vick knocked out for the season by Game 3 and Vince Young becomes the starter and fails. Iggles go 7-9.
That scenario would make me happy to no end.
Meriweather would be a Bear tomorrow if I had any say in the matter...
One year contract for Meriweather.
Jags just cut thier starting qb,5 days before the opener. Not bench, cut. Curious.
True, but that stomping on players at a game and the excessive hits tend to shorten your career. All I am saying is that there are attitude issues the Bears tend to weed out before they become a problem. Hopefully these issues are correctable with the right cast surrounding him. He also came out of the Miami program which also has been criticized as being from the ghetto crowd. I certainly hope this isnt a powder keg issue.
Jags just cut thier starting qb,5 days before the opener. Not bench, cut. Curious.
I disagree - any starting QB injury is big news - but it's not like he is DEAD...
Not having him do all those commercials for DirecTV all season would be HUGE
If Manning is out, would the Colts add Farve to the roster to replace him?
I think I read that if Manning doesnt play at all and goes on IR he gets $23.4 mil
LOL... more likely it would be David Garrard.
Or, they'll just tank the season and draft Luck next April.
The Saints defense sucks. They have no clue how to stop the Packers offense.
The way to beat the Packers is to run all day on them.
fans got a good prime time taste of the new kickoff rule and I don't think they are going to like it. Sure, there was an exciting return but he had to go 108yards. How many of those kinds of kicks are going to be run out of the endzone? The touchback/return ratio is going to be huge.
I'm thinking the kickoff rule gets changed back after the year is over...
I'm thinking the kickoff rule gets changed back after the year is over...
I know why they haven't.
It is called the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. Why try to win a few games this year when you can lose a lot and maybe be bad enough to have your future QB to take over soon. It's obvious that Mannings career is ending sooner than later.
I just watched the Packers/Saints 1st half and I dont see any flaws to exploit in the Packers game. They look unstoppable
The Saints defense sucks. They have no clue how to stop the Packers offense.
The way to beat the Packers is to run all day on them. On defense get pressure with your front four. Pretty much what the Bears have built their team to do.
The Bears this year look like they are going to be able to get pressure with just the front four.
Regardless how the Bears get pressure on Rodgers,it's gonna be a long day dealing with him. They need to get pressure AND disrupt the wideouts routes, make him hold it long enough TO get to him. Not a easy task to do...
Personally, I think the only way to slow down the Packers' offense is to physically beat up Rodgers (see the NFC championship game).
If that's not possible the Bears need to keep Rodgers on the bench with a good dose of Forte and an efficient passing game that doesn't require Cutler to sit back there for a long time.
When I said physically beat up Rodgers I wasn't thinking of what we did to Ryan last weekend.
Much worse...much.
Concussion? ;)
Yapper- Don't forget the Kellenator. "Fricking huge!".
I watched the Belichek thing on NFLN tonight. Funny thing is he talks about how you have to throw in bad weather cause the D-line can't get any rush. This is opposite of what most people think. However he has proven it to be correct. The Pats killed us at Soldier Field in bad weather with the passing game.
The guy just knows what needs to happen and gets it done.
I don't know if they have more but they certainly handle it better.
I will never forget that game where Brady stood back there and threw pass after pass destroying our defense as the snow came down on Soldier Field. If you are a cold weather team you damn well better know how to play in it.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/23/ravens-announce-passing-of-orlando-brown/
This is the guy who got hit in the eye with that idiot ref's flag a few years ago.
He was only 40 years old. Wow.
Seahawk fans can't be real thrilled about how their big-name FA acquistion has worked out for them so far...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/16/sidney-rice-unlikely-to-play-sunday/
If that team ever wants a legit #1 WR, they're gonna just have to bite the bullet and draft one. Other than Big Mike Williams, the FA route hasn't been working for them at all.
If they don't get a lot better they should have pretty much their pick of any WR they want next April...
Whoever was responsible for that CF on 4th and one needs to go today as well.
WTF? And I am tired of Cutler having to stand behind the huddle and flip his writs over and over and over trying to get the play...
Inject them all with RF chips that constantly monitor the circulatory system
I'm glad JJ picks such bad HC's. I love to root against them.
I used to pull against SF but I can't now because Singletary was their coach and Harbaugh is their coach now.
Don't even think that.
The Ryan brothers have the biggest mouths in the league' It's getting annoying to hear them shooting off their bazoos every day. And the lazy repoters spend too much of their time puting the crap on TV. Enough already!
I hope the Lions play as dirty as they did against the Bears.
Former Raiders DT Chester McGlockton Dies
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/30/former-raider-chester-mcglockton-dies-at-42/
42? Seriously? Just... wow. Heart attack. Dude was a beast with the Raiders.
And why does Hanie throw to the wrong guys? On the first pick he's flushed out of the pocket and on the 3rd pick he has a lineman in his face and he forced the throw.
Hanie is still at fault but he needs more help than Cutler.
Now Cutler would beat most teams with our current personnel - but can he beat the playoff quality defenses with that same personnel?
Maybe we find out in January.
I think New Orleans can give them a good game in the playoffs with either Baltimore or New England giving them trouble in the Super Bowl.
Jesus vs the cheesus. Sorry, couldn't help myself.
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Please God don't let this tool wind up on the Bears coaching staff again.
What's interesting is that here's a guy who, like Lovie, lost his starting QB and RB, was not able to make up for that and has received consequences much more severe than Lovie will ever face. Obviously a different (higher) standard is in effect in KC than at Halas Hall.
Does anyone know whether Haley left the Bears on good terms or not?
I keep having this gut feeling he may be in the mix to replace Martz as OC. Not terribly excited about that idea but it feels like it could happen.
Packie,
You mean it isn't all rosie when your OLine gets injuried and everyone plays out of position. Yes welcome to our entire season...enjoy the experience!!
Anyone still think Eli Manning isn't All-Pro worthy?
Get for real...
Fortuantely for us, Flynn and Rodgers are both early in their careers. Flynn will not be carrying the torch after Rodgers moves on. If he is a FA, he also won't give the Packers much if any in compensation. But before we say that Ted Thompson has this great eye for talent, Rodgers fell into his lap during his draft free fall. It wasn't as shrewd as the move that the Packers made to acquire Favre from Atlanta. The Packers lucked into Rodgers. The year they drafted Flynn in the 7th round, they also drafted Brian Brohm in the 2nd round. Brian Brohm lasted one season with the Packers. If Thompson was such a QB evaluating guru, he would have never chosen Brohm, and chosen Flynn with that 2nd round pick.
The draft is about research and a lot of luck.
If Philbin gets a HC job then that means Clements inherits the OC position. Otherwise I question why Clements would stay in GB.
Deja vu? A few years back the Giants started as a wild-card play-of team and proceeded to knock off the Cowboys in Dallas and, then, the packers in GB and, finally, won the Super Bowl. They looked tough yesterday. Scary.
Last year GB followed that same scenario.
Deja vu for Atlanta? Last year Atlanta accrued a great season record and was dismembered by GB. This season they accumulated another great record and were demolished by the Giants. Sad fans in Atlanta, I'll bet.
[Denver] playing Pitt toe to toe and WON. I saw it but can't believe it.
That's got to be one team that would be as frustrating as heck to work with. All that talent and can't get out the door. He sounds like he's frustrated, too, lol.....
I was wondering if he was waiting on a call from the Raiders...
I am really really really tired of hearing about Andrew Luck.
It's to the point I'm hoping he's a bust so that all those people can eat crow.
I would LMAO if the best QB from this draft class turned out to be some schmoe taken in the 4th round.
I dont think they can trade players right now, can they?
I wouldn't go that far yapper.
I am impressed with their D for todays rules that help the offense though.
Sorry packrat I am rooting for the Giants all the way. GO GIANTS!!!
Pretty hard to ignore the fact that the teams winning playoff games are routinely scoring 35 points. Until our O gets to that level, we can't hang.
Pretty hard to ignore the fact that the teams winning playoff games are routinely scoring 35 points. Until our O gets to that level, we can't hang.
We did have that stretch of games where we averaged 32 or so points. But I totally agree we desperately need OL help and a #1 WR.
TEs the wave of the future.
Anyone who can bring even a little of the "Patriot Way" to the hot mess that is Halas Hall, is worth their weight in gold.
Yeah, we do seem to have quite a knack for attracting other teams' failures.
Or is that your opinion.
Doesn't matter, if you don't like it, too bad! Obviously the Colts felt it was a mistake..
Or is that your opinion.
Obviously the Colts felt it was a mistake..
And injuries to Mike Brown & Tommie Harris helped out too. Still say the Bears would've beaten them if they were healthy.
And I'm not the type to give a QB ALL the credit when the personnel around him caught his passes, had good RB's, and the defense held the opposition down.
So we could end up with Harbaugh vs Harbaugh....Ravens vs 9ers. That would have to be a first I'd think....Giants vs Pats..didn't that happen once already???
I don't care for the match up either. Gotta give credit to the Giants though, their season was looking dismal and Caughlin was able to pull that team together. Decent football yesterday, but most of all I hate that the Pat's are in..
It also goes to show you how weak the NFC may have been all along this season. The Giants has to be the most inconsistent team I've seen in years but they are on their way to the Super Bowl. Surely we all can agree that the 29ers, Saints, and Packed are far better than the Giants but didn't perform like it in the playoffs. Maybe those 3 teams were just simply overrated.
With that said I can't see how the Giants can beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl.
Yep. the guy who knocked the ball out to help the Bears win the last time against gb. Funny how "family" doesn't enter into it when it come to money. And he's right. the league is all about owners making a killing. not a living, a killing.
Nope. 30-23 Gnats....
We know Cobb has the speed, does he have the discipline to run the routes and just as importantly does he have the hands? He didn't appear very sure handed returning punts in the games I saw him play.
You've gotta wonder why Jeremy Bates doesn't have an OC gig at this point in time. I mean, not only with the Bears, but with anyone.
I didn't think he did a bad job at all up in Seattle especially considering the very limited talent that team had at the time. He called a tremendous game against the Bears at Soldier Field (the regular season one, that we lost)... made our D look absolutely silly.
I'm trying to remember the commerical I saw 54 in, but can't. Sigh. Age. Bah!
Hell even I have to give Eliar credit.
Not following the "Eliar"..
how many qb's who've won more than one sb aren't in? Lessee... Akiman, Montana, Bradshaw, Brady will be, Elway, Staubach, pretty good list saying he'll get in
Sure he will make more money in NY but quality of life is better in San diego as far as I'm concerned.
Without question.
The Bears had a history of being cheap going back to Papa Bear who Butkis said threw nickels around like manhole covers but I don't think that's been the case lately. You can criticize where they spent the money but they have shelled out for players recently so I don't think the cheap & only out for profit fits any longer.
But if you want to look at it the other way... Sam Hurd may have been the best signing this team ever made if it was his drug woes that finally got Angelo launched. :D
Auditioning for new reality show for NFL wives/girlfriends?
http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/24172/Report--Two-women-fight-over-Michael-Turner/Default.aspx
But us little people are screwed no matter who gets elected in November
Yup. Another Presidential election with no real option. Sometimes I wonder how much longer our country can survive with the current two-party system in place and no viable leader being fronted by either party.
I didn't think I could be less optimistic about our country's prospects than I was 4 years ago at this time, but I am. The middle class is voting for its continued destruction no matter which candidate they vote for, and that's a very distressing place to be.
would you guys rather take a $20M chance on Manning being healthy for 2-3 more years or taking a chance on a low mileage Matt Flynn?
I don't think Flynn will be the next Aaron Rodgers but I think he will be a really good QB for some team out there.
Has Flynn played more than one game?
I remewhen everyone was so hot on Rob Johnson after one big game.
Ex-Colts WR Garcon headed to Redskins
The Sports Xchange
4:38 p.m. CDT, March 13, 2012
The move to acquire the No. 2 overall pick in the upcoming draft, presumably to select quarterback Robert Griffin III, is already paying dividends for the Washington Redskins.
Wide receiver Pierre Garcon, who spent four years with the Indianapolis Colts, announced that he had reached a free agent agreement with the Redskins.
If Washington had hoped the prospect of playing with Griffin would attract free agent wide receivers, the plan is already working.
I wanted you all to hear it from me 1st before u saw it on the news I will be signing with the Washington Redskins and I'm very excited about the opportunity in front of me, he wrote on Facebook.
Garcon was a secondary target for Colts quarterback Peyton Manning during the receiver's first three seasons, twice topping 700 receiving yards. Last year, with Manning missing the entire season due to a neck injury, Garcon had a career-high 70 receptions for a career-high 947 yards. He matched his best total with six touchdowns.
Former Colts executive Bill Polian had said on ESPN earlier Tuesday that he believed Garcon would get a big free agent payday in part because of his age, 25.
Last season, the Redskins didn't have a 1,000-yard receiver. Jabar Gaffney led the team with 947 receiving yards. The team's top target, Santana Moss, missed four games with a broken left hand.
Snyder throws his money around loosely, not smartly. He hasn't improved his squad much at all doing it. As a part time Colts fan, other than when they beat the Bears in the SB that is, I find it sad what's happening to them now. But they've been fairly smart with that team and it wouldn't surprise me if they reload and are off to the races again. Let me qualify my 'fan' status....Da Bears and then the Colts are a distant....distant second....but they have a killer stadium. Been there several times for Drum Corps International finals. VERY nice...
Yes ownership did change recently. New owner said he would have drafted him.
St. Augustine is considered by most Jacksonville area (within 30 minutes).
I think Jacksonville could get him with their 2nd rounder. I don't think he has as much value to any other franchise.
Alex Smith would be smart to get back to the 49ers. Harbough believed in him and got the most out of him.Absolutely! He is a (so far) a system QB who found the groove ....... who knows if he'll find it somewhere else ... or another Frank Gore and such a good defence. Time for him to swallow his pride and stick it out in SF.
Saturday visiting: In light of Peyton Manning reportedly heading to Denver, ESPN reported that center Jeff Saturday, 36, had visits planned with the Packers and Tennessee Titans. Now the Broncos may also be in the picture. While Denver drafted center J.D. Walton in the third round last year, Green Bay needs a starter after losing Wells.
Everybody knows his neck will be an albatross the rest of his career and they gave him that huge amount of dough.
And they signed him to a 2 year contract. WOW. I guess if Manning gets hurt they want to have the first pick in next years draft.
http://www.nfl.com/features/bracketology/alltimeteams
Time to vote again. JJ just suck it up and do the right thing!
man, Raiders/Bears is 50/50.
SF is ahead of Balt like 57/43.
Vote again....and again.....and again, again again! Hey Democrats can do it. Even dead people vote for them....
Chicago politics... vote early and often.... :)
What kind of grinds my gears is that it appears Payton gets to pick who's going to coach in his place this year. Which according to scuttlebutt could be Bill Parcells.
That's not right. Payton should have no say in who the Saints HC is this year. That should be a decision of the Saints ownership.
If he had not been guilty of lieing for three years he would probably not have gotten the hangman's rope. What was he thinking?
No. Sorry. Referring to Sean Payton.
Coach Payton said he accepted full responsibility for the bounty system - doesn't that absolve everyone else?
Oh wait - he is appealing that now...
It always astounds me how many chances a tool like Marinovich is given. Even at his best he wasn't very good. Smoking crack at halftime? LSD? Seriously?!
NFL: Warren Sapp, Career with NFL Network Is Old, Slow and over
Honestly starting to wonder if they should strip NO of their Superbowl win. Cheating should not be tolerated.
This NO thing is like a mine field. Walk one way and a mine goes off. Walk another way get close to the edge and safety....... and another mine goes off.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-report-saints-gm-loomis-could-eavesdrop-20120423,0,725028.story
Please note who was notified. Here come the Feds.
I dunno. That neck can be a tricky organ. It's like your shwanzetooker. Ya only got one.
Terrell Suggs tore his ACL, done for the year.
Sorta like the bank tellers that make $5/hr yet handle thousands each day. Starts to get to you.
Once he catches TD's and win games for the Jags it'll all be forgotten.
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I doubt that. Trouble seems to follow a lot of WRs.
What? You don't like Graham Harrell as your backup?
Kenny Britt arrested again. DUI at an Army base. Astoundingly poor judgement. That's either the 8th or 9th time for Kenny. Nashville sports continue to run off the cliff. Volunteer tickets anyone? Two best hockey players bailed. Not a good time for Tn sports.
espn has turned into the Peyto Manning/Denver Bronco gush machine Enough already!
Now I know why the new owner did not trade for Tebow.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8286397/report-jacksonville-jaguars-play-multiple-home-games-london-starting-2013
what does playing in London have to do with Tebow?
Now I know why the new owner did not trade for Tebow.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8286397/report-jacksonville-jaguars-play-multiple-home-games-london-starting-2013
Well, that would give a whole new meaning to home field advantage or away game. Play a monday nighter in say, Seattle, and a Thursday nighter in London. Hmmmmm.
I doubt Jax moves to Europe.
I would expect it to be hard to lure FA over there.
Away games would be really tough.
Just one game but RGIII looks like the real deal.
NFC East could be a lot more competitive then I expected if he keeps that up.
Good game Bengals and Ravens. This is going to the wire. 24-13 as we speak...
Wow. I am the kiss of death, eh?
Packers looking good though... ;D
The shiiit is going to hit the fan on Thursday.
It's pretty obvious at this point that all of the NFC West teams have made some pretty significant strides since last season. San Fran, Seattle, the Rams and the Cards all won their games yesterday and when was the last time that happened?
Not sure you can argue they're the worst division in the league anymore.
I think their D man handled our O.
Our D must have played pretty well else with so little offensive output they would hung 50 on us.
Next week we might lose a 37-34 shootout because the D doesn't show up but the O does.
I really don't want to hear the crying from the Packers hoard about this game. The refs missed at LEAST two calls that could have turned the tide in the last couple drives. The false PI that kept the Packs scoring drive alive, the questionable first down by Rodgers when the shot above shows his knee down, and the ball NOT across the yellow line. At least it should have been moved back some and measured. The clear PI by Woodson during the Hawks last drive that was not called. And a offsides by Matthews that wasn't called. But everyone's gonna whine about the very last screwed up call.
So now the report is a tentative deal has been done to bring the refs back in. So we'll probably see some real screwed up games for a month or so till the refs get back up to speed....
and of course the real refs never blow calls...
Any Bears fan who thought the Vikes would be good for two "gimme" wins this season (as I did) had better be seriously re-thinking that.
Isn't it about time for a V2 or Dougy sighting on the boards?
Maybe those two Ws will come from Detroit. They are an enigma.
Has Nick Fairley played yet?
The 46 has been clean and sober for several hundred mintues now. I knew I could do it.
Watching that game, the majority of plays on D were made by Matthews. He was in on nearly every play, in some way or another. Limit him and you limit their D. He is head and shoulders above every other player on that D.
Pretty sure he is making more plays because he is back on the juice after the testing got shot down.
You think...definitely.
Hell here in the DC area RGIII is already a lock HOF and maybe the best player ever at the position.
I'm starting to wonder what the deal is with Nate Collins. He was supposed to be one of Emery's prime FA signings but I don't think he's been active a single game yet.
The Panthers have two good RBs and with us coming off a very physical game on a short week, it might not hurt us to have an extra DT in the rotation on Sunday.
Good question on Knox. Haven't heard a peep but I think they've got to be getting close to the deadline.
If I had money to bet I'd say he goes on IR... same as I've felt from the beginning. I haven't seen or heard anything that makes me believe he's in any position to contribute this year.
As for Kellen Davis... I've been one of his biggest fans on this board but man he has been a disappointment this year. It seems like he drops at least one pass a game and then Cutler loses confidence in him and he's nothing more than a 3rd OT the rest of the time. If this is the best he can do in this offense then I'm not sure his roster spot wouldn't be better used for somebody else next season.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/01/aaron-rodgers-takes-home-october-honors/
Can't stand the guy but can't argue the award.
14 TDs in 4 games... to just 1 INT? That's just insane.
Packrat, was your post all written by you or was some of it copied from an article? Well written post.
Yeah, that's what was in the back of my mind. They do tend to beat dead (but profitable) horses. It's the family business afterall. I just wish they would do it well. They don't IMO.
Indy8???
The Packers brought up another WR from the PS, the seventh WR, Jeremy Ross (6-0, 217).
the Packers are just as banged up as we are (possibly more) and they're still rolling along with no-name players.
That points to talent evaluation and coaching
Wait, did you say coaching? Hmmmm. ;)
Do you think that the Packers just might like a re-match with Seattle in the play-offs? Thought so.
I wonder if they like to play on ice.
Most likely the Seahawks will be traveling to Washington or Dallas and we are hopeful that the Packers get the bye the first weekend (means they beat the Vikes).
And isn't Lambeau heated?
Seahawks vs Skins in a battle of the NFL's 2 best rookie QBs would be fun to watch indeed
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The Chargers are going to interview Lovie.
May as well have kept Norv
Every time I hear about Ray Lewis being called a great one and a role model I'm reminded of this.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/os-mike-bianchi-ray-lewis-0106-20130105,0,1707256.column (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/os-mike-bianchi-ray-lewis-0106-20130105,0,1707256.column)
Re the Packers... They have finally found a run game, and some run defense as well.
That improves their odds of a deep playoff run immensely.
Niners at the Stick will not be easy though.
It sounds like Lovie isn't getting the HC gig in Buffalo.
Twitter reports saying they're gonna hire the guy from Syracuse.
He had been contacted by 4 teams when fired so you can't say that there's no interest in him.
It's still early so things will pick up when the season ends.
He didn't say no interest in Lovie he said he was surprised there wasn't more interest in Lovie. Put your pom poms down.
Re the Packers... They have finally found a run game, and some run defense as well.
That improves their odds of a deep playoff run immensely.
If the Niners get both of the Smith brothers back ... its over.
Otherwise ... the Pack has all of their WR's healthy in god knows how long.
This is going to be a game to watch.
Too bad to see RGIII leave the game. That knee buckle looked ugly.
He should have been pulled long before that happened. It was pretty clear to see he wasn't right.
I like the kid and hope no permanent damage was done. Gonna be a lot of questions raised about how Shanahan and the Skins medical staff have played this whole situation. Considering they basically mortgaged their future for the guy you'd think they'd be a little smarter about protecting their investment.
IF I were a Bills fan I'd be highly ****ed at this hire. What the hell has this guy done in college ball to make them overlook the likes of Smith, Kelly, McCoy, and the other eligible and qualified candidates out there? Bills will be garbage for the next 5 years.
If I were Bills fan that had recently had Dick Jauron and Chan Gailey I would be happy that they didn't hire another NFL retread.
If I were McCoy or Kelly why would I want to leave Denver or Oregon to live in Buffalo? McCoy seems to be the hot commodity so I'm sure he can have several gigs to choose from before this is over. Buffalo pretty much has to take what they can get.
I have no problem with black people or people of any color, race or religion for that matter. I don't like you but it has nothing to do with your race and everything to do with you being an azzhole and a troll.
If the best coach for the job is black I would be absolutely fine with it. Just as I was with Lovie until he missed the play offs for years, had a losing record against Green Bay and had two seasons in a row when the team had epic meltdowns in the second half of the season.
I think Lovie is a fine human being and I respect him. I also think he is a good football coach but his time in Chicago needed to come to an end simply because he was not getting the job done.
But hey we all know as long as a player or coach is black they get a free pass from you. You are the biggest racist on these boards bar none. It is not even close.
Sounds like he had some good experience at New Orleans. Chip Kelly had no NFL experience yet some here think he should have been the choice.
RGIII is having an MRI today and I suspect the results will be not good. Maybe not as bad as AP's was but still bad.
When you've got a big brace on like he did and the knee still buckles like that, it can't be good. The kid is in for a long hard offseason of rehab I'm afraid.
Sorry, correction. He done blow'd up the acl AND lcl a lil' bit. Oh where are you players who ragged on Jay Cutler? I can't hear you now. Jerks.
Sorry, correction. He done blow'd up the acl AND lcl a lil' bit. Oh where are you players who ragged on Jay Cutler? I can't hear you now. Jerks.
And both J-Cut and RG3 plays on very bad home turf. If that doesn't at least give the Bears something to think about next season nothing will.
Yeah I daresay that Redskins turf on Sunday was every bit as bad as bad as I've ever seen Soldier Field.
I haven't been a big fan of Gooddell but if he came out after this and said that all cold weather outdoor NFL stadiums were required to have FieldTurf that wouldn't bother me at all. A league mandate might be the only way we ever see that change in Chicago.
That Bevell guy seems like kind of an odd choice to spend time on.
Most Vikings fans despised him when he was the OC in Minny. And he seems to get mixed reviews even for what he's done in Seattle.
Definitely doesn't strike me as a short-list prospect but maybe Emery's got other reasons to tap his brain.
It was newter gingrinch who dumped his cancer effected wife for an intern. But he only did it because he loved America so much.
John Edward's gal problem wasn't an intern, but thanks for playing.
Corey Graham had two huge plays in that game. Congrats to him. Why did the Bears let him go again?
I think the Patriots are favored over the Ravens but I give the Ravens a decent shot.
Niners will probably destroy the Falcons. It just feels like their year. When your starting QB goes down and the back up is way better, imo it is just your year.
Lovie's inability to evaluate and utilize talent on the Bears was pretty apparent. As was his blatant favoritism of certain players at the expense of others.
That is now starting to be apparent and will be even more so as Emery continues re-shaping the roster based on actual performance and talent, not the coach's personal preferences.
I hope you're not basing this statement on his last draft. Emery hasn't proved squat yet.
you mean this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73dW4740ILE
I think a lot of the McCoy decision goes back to those meetings McCoy had with Cutler before Cutler was traded to the Bears. My guess is that McCoy wanted no part of dealing with Cutler. That clearly points to the hiring of a coach that can bring out the best in Cutler. I doubt Bevel has that ability. So that boils down to Arians and Trestman.
Amen. One of my favorite Bear moments
How about Fridge scoring as a FB against GB? That teally hurt.
The 9ers laid out the blue print for the Bears on how to decimate the Pakers. We'd do well to learn from it and incorporate it into our play calling, whoever it'll be doing that....would be nice to find out soon here....
A new stadium for the St. Louis Rams?
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/a-new-stadium-for-the-st-louis-rams/article_ec551966-d335-5d45-bd7a-c22e3f08ee75.html
The 9ers laid out the blue print for the Bears on how to decimate the Pakers. We'd do well to learn from it and incorporate it into our play calling, whoever it'll be doing that....would be nice to find out soon here....
A big key to stopping the system used by the 49ers depends upon very disciplined play by superior LBs. With Bishop and Nick Perry on IR and Hawk playing like a dork that group failed completely. Worthy being out with an injury didn't help.
I agree Packrat. What I don't understand is how they were able to readjust to disciplined LB play from week 17 to wildcard game against the Vikings and yet not see the need for similar discipline against Kaepernick. Did they just play cards during film study?
Norv Turner has taken the OC job with the Browns.
Well if memory serves me correctly the Pack ran the 4-3 under Capers till the Pack drafted a NT (raji) and a couple of OLBs. Maybe he can run a 4-3 for a year tll we are able to retool
Tuckers D in Jax this year was pretty bad. I wouldnt laugh just yet. Babich may be an improvement.
No African-American NFL head coaches hired in 2013
Bummer....
Glad you feel that way. So does the NFL.....
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8858003/nfl-looking-adjust-rooney-rule-ensure-diversity
Packy,
Saturday has retired ... Woodson is a hell of a paycheck to pick up ... and Finley.
Jennings also.
The Bucs new st coach......Wanny. Blech,
As for Kaepernick... buck up kid. You are a ridiculous talent and played a hell of a game minus a couple glitches... with only 10 NFL starts under your belt no less. I'm pretty sure you'll be back for another chance.
(Which pains me to say as a Bears fan.)
I'm happy for Corey Graham though. And John Harbaugh doesnt seem to be quite the doosh that Jim is.
And John Harbaugh doesnt seem to be quite the doosh that Jim is.
Just that alone made me root for Baltimore - Jimbo is worst combination of anal-retentive + 5 yr-old temper tantrum ever seen.
This is too funny because if the Bears were in that position last night and Trestman said the same thing you guys wouldn't say what you're saying now. Point being that WAS pass interference on that last play and I don't have a problem with Jim calling out the refs for swallowing the whistle. That officiating crew wasn't a good crew last night IMO.
Halftime managed to combine vulgar and boring all rolled up into one.
Oh not that Jim was worse than usual yesterday ... he spazzes over off-side/false start flags with regularity.
There is a LOT of distance between how Harbaugh acts and how Lovie acted. I don't like Jims antics but it would have been nice to see a little something from Lovie. At times it was hard to tell if he even knew where he was.
What I read about Trestman is that he's more on the "low-key" side of sideline antics spectrum, but at the same time he is extremely engaged in what's going on and he's not afraid to get in a ref's face if a situation warrants. "Controlled intensity" I guess is how you'd describe it.
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Signing day was what, yesterday or the day before??? Wow, yea I would be a 'little' ticked if that happened to my son. Make sure they sign on the dotted line and then jump ship.....
And definitely not the Bears
Quote from: WshflThinking on Today at 04:44:12 pm
And definitely not the Bears
Quote: from JJ
We dont know that yet.
Why dont we? It would take probably all of our 5 draft picks to tradde up from #20 to #4, so why doesnt that make it prohibitive? To me it would be insane even were it possible.
That was the 2nd round where it is way lots easier to do that. See there is a value system where all picks have distinct values. Each round has lower values. If you paid any attention to some of the posts here. It would cost several picks to move up just a few spots in the 1st round. To move up from #20 to #4 the cost would be astronomical. And yeah I know Emery moved up last year to get Jeffery. Just feel secure that there is a 99.999% chance it wont happen. I am that confident. It could conceivably cost the Bears their #1 pick this year as well as next to move up that high.
I don't really know that much about Chip Kelly's offensive scheme but from what I do know it seems like Vick (if healthy) would be a good fit.
IMHO it is folly to schedule a SB in a northern stadium.
Its all about fan experience as well as the price of the tickets. I sure wouldnt pay the price of those SB tickets to sit outdoors in the snow and cold just to watch when I can watch on TV in the warmth of my living room.
And half the players get kidnapped.
Charles Woodson to be released
ESPN.com news services
February 15, 2013, 12:59 PM ET
The Green Bay Packers will release veteran defensive back Charles Woodson, a source familiar with the situation has told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
Carl Poston, the agent for Woodson, first told NFL.com that the club would be releasing his client.
"They're getting ready to release him. It's part of the business," Poston said. "I just talked to him. He sounds like he has a lot of football left. He'd like to play for a contender, win another Super Bowl."
The 2009 NFL Defensive Player of the Year, the 36-year-old Woodson was set to make $9 million in 2013 and would count for $10 million against the Packers' salary cap. He has spent the past seven seasons with Green Bay after playing his first eight campaigns with the Oakland Raiders.
Woodson, who missed nine games in 2012 because of a broken collarbone before returning for the playoffs, moved from cornerback to safety last season because of diminishing cover skills.
An eight-time Pro Bowler, Woodson won the Heisman Trophy at Michigan in 1997. In 206 career NFL games, Woodson has registered 55 interceptions and 17 sacks.
Good news for Bears fans - hope he goes to the AFC.
What would they want with a soccer player?
Part of the GB defense slipped when Perry was injured.
Can't they resign at a lower cost?
Titus Young is again available - the Rams apparently got to know him these last few days.
Unfortunately it doesn't mention Soldier in the article. Only FedEx Field in DC. Maybe if RG3 had injured his knee in Chicago then the commissioner would take action to Soldier. :)
Keep the SB in the warm, sunny south.
I'm thinking.
To the (near) victors go the spoils....if we knew how to develop talent, we could cash in on the draft and FA as well.
Urlacher made 8 million I think last year and said he knew he was not going to get another big contract. I think the Bears can get him for way less then 11 million next year.
If the Redskins take the NFL to court they will become the new Raiders flagged constantly for ticky tacky **** all day long. Their fans better reconsider. Al Davis and the Raider fans payed that price for taking the other owners to court.
I can't see Emery making a serious run at Cullen Jenkins. He is way too old to fit Emery's M.O. as concerns FAs.
Not to mention, letting a young, homegrown DT go just as he's hitting his peak, in favor of a beat-up old guy with two years left at best, doesn't make any sense at all.
I could see the Cowboys taking a look at him, though.
yahoo stating the 9er's are making a run for Revis. Yikes! These guys are loaded, and have no cap problems? Ted Phillips is a damn beancounter and the Bears are up against the wall? He and the Jer shoud be Keelhauled under an ore carrier and dumped in whitefish bay. symbolically of course. or not.
The price for Rodgers just skyrocketed for the Pack
Ryan? LOL! Yea, riiiight.....Whos Ryan ?
DirecTV better think long and hard about dropping the NFL Sunday Ticket - there are many customers that will ditch the dish and move over to their competitors like Verizon Fios.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/07/report-john-abraham-to-visit-seahawks/
Yikes... a healthy John Abraham on that Seahawks defense? Look out QBs.
Wow... today is a bad day to be an old, highly paid DB. All cuts announced today:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/08/chargers-get-out-of-the-atari-bigby-business/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/08/panthers-cut-chris-****/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/08/cardinals-cut-adrian-wilson/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/08/jaguars-release-aaron-ross-in-secondary-makeover/
I think the Seahawks could come out looking pretty good myself. Harvin will turn 25 this spring and although he only played in 9 games this season he missed a total of 3 games the previous 3 seasons. Seahawks are now pretty well stocked at wideout with Harvin, Sydney Rice, Golden Tate and Doug Baldwin.
Seahawks can play defense and can run the ball - and they just improved their only weakness which was their passing game.
Harvin has acted-out against every HC he's had dating back to his high school days. The concerns among Seattle fans are not unfounded.
That being said... Marshawn Lynch was too much for the Bills to handle but he seems to have settled down nicely in the northwest. So who knows.
I know you want choir boys to play for the Bears but if I recall sorta the same things were being said about Brandon Marshall's attitude off and on the field but since he's been here everyone's happy he's here. I wouldn't have any problems if we would've gotten Harvin because his skills are needed. He may or may not be a model citizen but everyone deserves a chance.
So what moves has Emery made? Hmm.....
Chicago Bears Sign OT Jermon Bushrod
Jermon Bushrod going to the Chicago Bears might have been both the best fit and worst-kept secret of this free-agency period. The Bears had one of the worst left tackle situations in the NFL, and a quarterback they paid dearly for but couldnt protect.
In a free-agent market saturated with offensive tackles, it was thought Bushrod would be a big upgrade without too big of a price tag for the cap-strapped Bears.
Then, the Bears signed Bushrod to a five-year, $36 million contract with $17.7 million guaranteed.
Somewhere in the mutual lovefest, the fact that the inconsistent Bushrod was supposed to be affordable was lost.
In fact, Bushrod (the 44th-ranked offensive tackle, per Pro Football Focus) barely outperformed incumbent JMarcus Webb (ranked 47th). In fact, Webb was assigned a plus-1.5 for his pass protection, when Bushrods minus-3.5 mark was significantly lower. Bushrod went to the Pro Bowl, but offensive linemen often make it regardless of whether they play well.
Bushrod has played much better than he did in 2011, but hes also played worse. The Bears have to hope theyre getting the best Bushrod theres ever beenand even then, he might not be worth that contract.
Grade: D
If Carimi winds up getting cut before this season it will only cement Angelo's legacy of profound incompetence with regards to managing the Bears OL.
If it comes down to Carimi at RG I would rather cut bait on him entirely and staff that position with an actual G.If we can get Moore then lets see.
If Carimi can get healthy he deserves a shot to not only compete for a guard position but for his old RT job.
This may not be a Chris Williams deja vu scenario...
If Carimi is healthy and can play RT and put Webb at swing I think that would be ideal.
I don't think we want Carimi at LT.
The real question is do we bring Scott back.
He did pretty well at RT for us. If Carimi isn't healthy(mentally or physically) it would be bad to let him go.
On the flip side, I doubt we carry 4 tackles on the active roster.
Saw where Mr. Donte Stallworth got fried today. Hope he and the girlfriend are ok. That had to be a horrible feeling, not be able to control your drift into powerlines. Ack.
Doubtful we go from having one of the worst lines in the league to one of the best in one season. Seeing SOME help being brought onboard is very encouraging, though. If we get more via the draft, say at LG, I'd say we're on the right track....FINALLY! I'd be happy for the line to jump from 30th to 20th....at least it's improvement!
We don't have a 3rd round pick. It went to the Dolphins for Brandon Marshall.
........and in other news former SF guard Kwamie Brown came out of the closet. fitting, I suppose, that a gay would play for a team from San Franciso. the 46 is diving back into the bottle once again. At least there, for awhile, I can pretend things aren't as they are.
8 more years of Romo in Dallas. ENJOY it Cowboy fans! LOL :D
Yes but isn't $55 million guaranteed?
It is. The dude from Eastern Illinois just backed up the Brinks truck.
Is Jerry Jones the new AL DAVIS ?
He could be the old/new Daniel Snyder, for he came before him but is acting after him....
Tony Romo is now Jay Cutler's best friend. I expect he just made Jay a lot of money.
That's what makes this rivalry so good, jj. We'll see. I think we both need to look out for 49ers and Seahawks.
packrat
The key to your defense this year will be last year's rookie Perry. This year the Bears will be prepared to stop Matthews - you need at least one other guy to threaten on the pass rush.
Offensively, if Newhouse is still your LT after the draft...I'll be happy.
he NFL rules state that the league day ends at 4 PM Eastern Time. The deadline for NFL teams to submit offer sheets for other teams' Restricted Free Agents is Friday, April 19th. Cornerback Sam Shields, who received a second-round tender from the Packers, did not get any offer sheets from any other teams by 4 PM Friday. Put that all together and you can see that Sam Shields is now guaranteed to be a member of the Green Bay Packers for the 2013 season.
Shields' current tender will pay him $2.023 million this season if he signs it. Of course, the Packers appear to be interested in signing the young corner to a long-term deal this offseason to keep him in Green and Gold beyond 2013. Any extension would naturally affect his cap hit this year, as it would likely involve a signing bonus and adjustments to Shields' base salary. The good news is that there is no longer a chance of him playing elsewhere this year while Ted Thompson and company work on an extension.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/03/dolphins-start-figuring-out-dion-jordans-role-this-weekend/
When the Fins traded up to the 3rd overall pick I figured, smart move, they're going after Lane Johnson. But then they take this project DE instead. And now admitting they don't have a clear plan for where he's even gonna play.
Absolute lunacy for a team that has a young franchise-caliber talent in Tannehill but no LT to speak of. If I were a Dolphins fan, I'd be furious.
Packy G.B. has been keeping money tight to the vest and they wanted to skate with TWO RB's.
Bears only play Pack once?!???
It's time to pay the piper for all the years of a Hall of Fame QB that never got hurt
Money grab... I hated Woodson in hindsight, but an excellent player. Going back to the Raiders, so yah it is jail...He was a big factor in recent Packer successes. Inspirational guy.
He was a big factor in recent Packer successes. Inspirational guy.
Can't see Lovie Dovie coaching the Boys.
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/daAl1?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=green-bay-packers
Comments by Rodgers.
Posted by Mike Florio on June 23, 2013, 3:37 PM EDT
FreemanAP
The softening of the free-agent market has resulted in shorter contracts, which means that more and more players are having their contracts expire every year. Which means that more free agents are hitting the market.
In Tampa, the Bucs currently are scheduled to have 20 unrestricted free agents in 2014, according to PewterReport.com...
WOW!
how do you screw up so bad?
I can see if you carry all the time getting in a heated argument and killing someone. That I understand.
What I cannot understand is a high profile NFL player doing something that appears to be pre-meditated murder knowing all he has to lose.
I mean at least hire someone to do the job.
Can't wait!
Spellman still fighting his demons
http://www.courierpostonline.com/article/20130717/NEWS01/307170023/Former-NFL-lineman-Alonzo-Spellman-back-Burlington-Co-Jail
Spellman was long gone from the Bears before Juaron was ever coach.
Even though Spellman played most of his career under Dave Wannstedt the coach that was in charge when Spellman was actually drafted was....Ditka.
On the other hand, I read a post on Peter King's column that I would love to see come to light. I have probably watched 30 minutes of Hard Knocks show where they show the progress of a certain team through training camp. What I would love to see as an alternative is something called War Rooms. Give us access to what teams are saying about players during the draft, and who they are talking about before they draft whoever it is they draft. I could see where they are talking down about Matt Barkley, and then when the Eagles finally chose him, what they say in the press conference. The players like honey badger that everyone is afraid of, I want to hear what they are saying and what they do when the player they target falls into their laps. I think that would be good tv, I would love to see it
This is welcome news for me. I miss the days when it was about the team and individuals acting like they got into the endzone all by themselves. I would love to go back to the days of class like Walter Payton and Barry Sanders who gave the ball to a linemen for a minimal spike or better yet just handed it to the official. The self-centered players of today have turned a touchdown into a repeat of dancing with the stars.
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/08/07/nfl-plans-to-crack-down-on-excessive-celebrations-this-season/
Packers looked like home-made horse****.
Ill. State WR Ty Walker did OK. Had 5 catches,
Without Rodgers, they wouldn't have HALF the success they've had in the last few years...and that is the unmitigated truth.....he is that good....
In other words he thinks Rodgers is a great QB. I agree.
That is different then being a great human being or even a decent human being.
My guess is most QB's are azzholes. I don't think Rodgers is the exception to the rule.
Generally the best most popular and succesful people are the biggest azzholes on the planet. There are exceptions to this rule of course but not as many as we would like.
Oh, I am sure that Driver will come out and say his account was hacked...
Holy cow... this guy was not only a rising star in the league but it seemed, a pretty good guy.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/20/von-miller-gets-a-six-game-suspension/
I'm not sure what the hell is going on up there in Denver but the Broncos have just been a train wreck this offseason.
Say goodbye to the game we love. Watching Baltimore/Carolina and the calls that are being made are ridiculous. Another step closer to flag football.
Rex Ryan is an unbelievably bad HC. How do you put your starting QB out their behind the 2nd team O-line in a preseason game?
I have wondered for several years why that loon hasn't been canned.
I don't think the Jets owner has it all working upstairs. His team has gone from a deep playoff contender to a national punchline in an alarmingly short span of time and he doesn't seem to either know or care.
During the season I think I can watch Total Access in under 10 min (more if they actually talk about something I want to hear about).....
DVR is either the savior of TV or its downfall :D
Nate Palmer - Ill. State U, LB made the GB roster.
Packers love him, jj.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/04/nfl-moving-closer-to-using-helmet-sensors/
If they do this every single team will bring in guys whose sole purpose will be to hit the star player in the head as hard as possible to make the sensor go off.
This game will be unrecognizeable and unwatchable in 10 years if they go forward with this BS.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/17/super-bowl-ticket-prices-going-up/
2) How ironic would it be for a first year NFL HC to come down from the CFL and wind up playing for all the marbles in a snowstorm?
Packy I'd toss in Atlanta & Houston ... injurys may decide the outcome with Houston.
In bed late sat nite watching asu and usc go up and down the field, up early and see usc shoved Kiffin out the airlock. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, I wonder if Fisher is looking to get back home to USC. What a fraud Kiffin is.
After screwing over the University of Tennessee to go to USC and his massive failure at Oakland Kiffin will likely never be a HC at any major university of pro franchise again.
The only racket better than that is to be a backup caliber QB who convinces some team that you're actually a starter and pays you for it. See Kolb, Kevin and Flynn, Matt.
...The Texas mob, while is typical for Texas fans is foul to cheer an injury.
Maybe in Houston but not in Dallas, their fans are usually sitting on their hands.
NFL is getting ridiculous with the flags anymore.
Doctors Believe Packers TE Jermichael Finley Can Play Again, but IR Not Ruled Out
By Jason Hirschhorn @JBHirschhorn on Oct 22 2013, 1:31p 82
I dunno. Some folks feel it is too risky for him to continue.
Many thought the same thing about Manning....how's he been doing lately?....
Why not...they're pushing gay this, gay that crap everywhere like everyone accepts it....or they're desperately trying to get everyone to accept it....
Sorry to disappoint you but they're quite normal....
Have you seen something that makes you doubt that statement, jj?
Yes Mario Manningham and Michael Crabtree.
You completely lost me there, jj.
He's saying that Kap doesn't have his receivers, though he does have Bolden...
You never faced Cutler with THIS offense, specifically this offensive line and 3 legitimate receiving threats.
I love how everyone talks about how QB friendly this offense is under Trestman is. And it may be. But what is more QB friendly is keeping those 300 lb defensive lineman from slamming you down into the turf.
Anybody know of any defense players that are coming up in FA around the league ?
Make no mistake...both of these teams are pretty poor.
The Packers D is just awful. The O is as well.
Vikes lose in crazy ending...5 TD's in the last 2:09 of the game...amazing. NE gets a gift PI call to enable the win. I think it was same ref that called such a crappy game for Da Bearsss a couple weeks ago. Pack wins also ... Friggin' Packers ;D
It'll end up being a three way tie for the division, lol....no one wants it, or at least is playing like they really want it...
Watching from home on playoff weekend...is where....
Can't ignore what other clubs do.....right now, they hold the keys to our playoffs IF we 'take care of business'. We win out and yet the Loins win, too, we're done.....only road to the postseason goes through them.
Heard we draft at 14 on another board.
depends on who we can get in FA
LOL. Easiest TD Boykin will ever get.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/05/lovies-final-say-could-make-it-harder-to-get-a-g-m/
I am not sure that is a good idea.
Or anybody else for that matter. Lets review :
Some final regular season numbers,
Broncos 76 TD
Cinncy 54 TD
Philly 53 TD
BEARS 52 TD
Chiefs 52 TD ... thats the top 5.
Vikings gave up 480 points,worst in the League.
Two teams gave up 478 points, one of which was in the NFC North.
Theres no need to name a name. But it should make Halas Hall stand up and notice. ;D
So Peyton Manning had more passing TDs than any other team had total TDs?
Wow...
Going to probably be a Broncos-Hawks SB. I wouldn't cry if it was a Colts-Hawks or Colts-9ers though.....can't see Painters or Bolts or Ain'ts in it....but can never count out that dang Brady led Patsies...those suckers just won't go away....
Posted by Mike Spofford on January 14, 2014 12:25 pm
Packers RB Eddie Lacy has been voted by the Pro Football Writers of America as their Rookie of the Year for 2013.
Lacy finished the regular season 1,178 rushing yards and 11 TDs, leading all NFL rookies and setting Packers franchise rookie records. Lacy was named the NFLs Offensive Rookie of the Month for October and was the leagues Offensive Player of the Week after rushing for 141 yards at Dallas in Week 15. He had four 100-yard rushing games, tied for the most among NFL rookies and tied for fifth among all players. His 11 rushing TDs were third overall in the league.
Lacy joins teammate Josh Sitton in earning honors this year from the PFWA. Sitton was named to the organizations All-NFC team.
2013 PFWA ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: RB Eddie Lacy, Green Bay Packers
2013 PFWA OFFENSIVE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: WR Keenan Allen, San Diego Chargers
2013 PFWA DEFENSIVE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: LB Kiko Alonso, Buffalo Bills
2013 PFWA ALL-ROOKIE TEAM
Offense
QB Mike Glennon, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
RB Giovani Bernard, Cincinnati Bengals; Eddie Lacy, Green Bay Packers
WR Keenan Allen, San Diego Chargers; DeAndre Hopkins, Houston Texans
TE Jordan Reed, Washington Redskins
C Travis Frederick, Dallas Cowboys
G Kyle Long, Chicago Bears; Larry Warford, Detroit Lions
T D.J. Fluker, San Diego Chargers; Justin Pugh, New York Giants
Defense
DL Ziggy Ansah, Detroit Lions; Star Lotulelei, Carolina Panthers; Sheldon Richardson, New York Jets; Kawann Short, Carolina Panthers
LB Kiko Alonso, Buffalo Bills; Sio Moore, Oakland Raiders; Alec Ogletree, St. Louis Rams
CB Tyrann Mathieu, Arizona Cardinals; Desmond Trufant, Atlanta Falcons
S Eric Reid, San Francisco 49ers; Kenny Vaccaro, New Orleans Saints
Special Teams
PK Caleb Sturgis, Miami Dolphins
P Sam Martin, Detroit Lions
KR Cordarrelle Patterson, Minnesota Vikings
PR Tavon Austin, St. Louis Rams
ST Don Jones, Miami Dolphins
Mike from Tucson, AZ
I looked at the cap number Alex Smith had with the 49ers when he first signed through 2012; it was significant. Yet, at least three of the defensive stars the 49ers have were acquired via free agency during this time. Just saying, it can be done; not to make an effort in free agency seems like not using all tools available.
Vic
Did you look at the rest of the 49ers cap during that period? During the consecutive 4-12, 7-9, 5-11, 7-9, 8-8, 6-10 years the 49ers were assembling the team that is now playing in the NFC title game for the third consecutive year, they had cap room. These players didnt all come at one time. Now, theyre on the verge of not having cap room, and the whistle will soon begin to blow. Dashon Goldson is one of their first losses. You cant outrun the cap. Its gonna catch you. All you can do is get off the tracks.
Thankfully that play didn't matter as SF got the ball anyhow, but imagine the outcry if they DID manage a score off that screwed up call?? That definately needs to be changed to be reviewable.....could have possibly made the difference in a very very important game.
Man is it getting slow around here. Not even a mention of the pro bowl draft that took place. I had to do a google search to find out what happened.WML I'm waiting for the actual game to be suprised.
Alshon drafted before Marshall was a suprise....
I think we have to re-sign Raitliff. And look for another one in free agency. We need at least one big fat guy to just plug up the middle on first and second down.
Best available athlete on defense in the first round of the draft.
If the best LBer in the draft is sitting there and you think he will have a hof career I think you take him if the value is not there anywhere else.
If the best LBer in the draft is sitting there and you think he will have a hof career I think you take him if the value is not there anywhere else.
So the Rams D were 13th in points allowed, 3rd in sacks and 15th in yards and they fired their d coordinator and hired Gregg Williams. Would anybody be calling for Tresty's head if that happened here? Didn't think so.
JJ, you can post ****, ****, gamble etc anytime you want. The board is uncensored now.
B.D.P.A.
Watching the pre-game and couldn't be more disgusted with the coverage. Red Carpet celebrity interviews? Really? This whole thing has gone so far over the top it's ridiculous. Please just stop with the Hollywood influence, stop with the commercials, stop with the halftime "extravaganzas" and just play the damn game.
I would want to know who the architect is that built that program. They have talent to spare on that D! I swear it felt like they used only half their D last night and the rest of the guys were bored.
The Seahawks did poorly for many years with Allen 's bankrolling.
Seattle and San Fran are at the peak and will begin to lose players through salary cap. Now, we get to see whether or not they can repeat their great drafting the way NYG, Pitt, NE, etc have.
BTW ... the Seattle GM is named John Schneider.
Yeah. One of those former Packers staff.
Tim Ruskell
Now if you had your locals with Madison locals you'd be fine, you wouldn't need Sunday ticket. That's what I did with Dish. I have Chicago locals so I get all Chicago sports teams. You do know there is more than one way to skin a **** cat.
Heres whats coming up on the Combine :
Saturday 2/22 : K-OL-TE
Sunday 2/23 : RB-QB-WR
Monday 2/24 : LB-DL
Tuesday 2/25 : DB
Speaking of the media ... within the last few months when I go to record somthing on DVD it says it is not allowed to be recorded.
Anybody else getting this ?
Seattle reportedly has no plans to franchise Bennett.
Those words hurt me deeply, JJ....I am wounded..... :'(
Most NFL teams had their eyes focused on the scouting combine in Indianapolis, but one team was forced to answer questions about a possible coaching change. The San Francisco 49ers denied they engaged in talks with Cleveland about exchanging head coach Jim Harbaugh for a draft pick; now the Browns' owner is saying there were discussions.
Jimmy Haslam told USA TODAY that his organization had indeed spoken with the 49ers about getting their head coach, but ultimately a deal couldn't be finalized.
"There was an opportunity there, and it didn't materialize," Haslam told USA TODAY Sports.
With the increased cap size every player's cost just went up. We are dogs chasing their tails. The players are the big winners.
And the fans are paying for it.Dont pay them and the game wont be played.
I'm afraid that you are correct, jj. The Pack has not been overwhelmed by his play the past two years. If he defects, the Pack will, no doubt, re-sign Pickett for another year. He has been outplaying Raji recently, anyway.
Looks like Peppers is a goner ...
The Bears on Tuesday informed veteran defensive end Julius Peppers that they are terminating his contract.
The 6-7, 287-pounder started all 16 games for the Bears each of the past four seasons, recording 151.5 tackles, 38 sacks, three interceptions, 19 tackles-for-loss, 12 passes breakups, nine forced fumbles and seven fumble recoveries.
“We appreciate Julius’ contributions to the Bears over the last four years,” said general manager Phil Emery. “He was a leader on our defense starting every game since coming to Chicago. His accomplishments over his NFL career place him among the best defensive ends over the past 20 years. The Chicagoland community has benefited greatly from his quiet generosity. We wish him the best.”
Peppers signed with the Bears on the first day of free agency in 2010 after spending his first eight NFL seasons with the Panthers. He was selected by Carolina with the second overall pick in the 2002 draft out of North Carolina.
Peppers, who turned 34 in January, was voted to the Pro Bowl in each of his first three seasons with the Bears. Last year he compiled 48.5 tackles, 7.5 sacks, one interception, four tackles-for-loss, four pass breakups, two forced fumbles and one fumble recovery.
>The release of Peppers, who was signed through the 2015, frees up considerable salary cap space for the Bears, who agreed to terms with defensive end Lamarr Houston, linebackers D.J. Williams and Jordan Senn, and safety Ryan Mundy on the first day of free agency Tuesday.
So does this mean DT with the 14th pick ?
Too bad about Michael Bush ... he never got a chance to get warmed up.
Bills signed G Chris Williams to a four-year, $13.5 million contract with $5.5 million guaranteed.
5 mil/yr for a backup QB.Really.
Have fun with that.
FWIW, Revis released
Lions signing Golden Tate.
I would expect Raji would do well in a 4-3. He's pretty quick for a fat dude :-)
Don't understand Denver giving Ware all that money. He looked pretty well washed up last year.
The Broncos are in it to win it. Peyton has 2 yrs at the most to get one more ring and Elway is moving heaven and earth to make that happen. They will be in cap hell in a few years but that's the next QB's problem. It's all about #18 as long as he's there.
<a href="https://nflplayers.com/reports/RunPublicReport.aspx?report=top51 (https://nflplayers.com/reports/RunPublicReport.aspx?report=top51)">NFLPA salary cap report
<a href="http://www.spotrac.com/cap-tracker/nfl/ (http://www.spotrac.com/cap-tracker/nfl/)">spotrac salary cap report
Bears (I assume post-Tillman signing) have cap space between 8.5 to 9 million.
In comparison, the Raiduhs are 55 to 60 million under the cap. Not sure what they're waiting for.
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Looking forward to line up next to/learn from one of the best pass rushers, Julius Peppers #SackTime Still complaining about free agency??
Lets keep an eye on this guy : Anthony Barr UCLA LB, sucked at the combine but bounced back since.defensive end.
An LDE ?
The Detroit Lions didn’t do any open-of-business deals at the start of free agency Tuesday, but that doesn’t mean that they weren’t working.
Lions general manager Martin Mayhew spent part of Tuesday at UCLA’s pro day, where one of the draft’s top outside linebacker prospects, Anthony Barr, wowed scouts with his workout.
UCLA coach Jim Mora tweeted that Barr ran a 4.44-second 40-yard dash Tuesday, significantly better than the 4.66 he ran at the NFL combine last month.
A converted fullback who played just two seasons of defense in college, the 6-foot-5, 255-pound Barr had 23.5 sacks and 41.5 tackles for loss the last two seasons.
He likely would play strongside linebacker in the Lions’ new defense and have pass-rushing responsibilities in sub packages or at
If that's the case wouldn't a kickoff through the uprights be considered a field goal?
Cant wait to see if he got that $4 mil he was looking for. LOL
Ain't going to happen.
Sadly for Packers fans this does not take into account Houston rushing in from the OTHER side.....let's meet at Rodgers!! Plus Ratliff and the newly acquired DT up the middle....think things are going to be a 'little' different this season....
oh...man, if you're described as having "behavioral issues" in Philly...you must be messed up pretty bad...
Raiders can have him...
Well if your 2 starting safetys are gone or likely gone that should make the draft that much more important
The thing about the Wonderlic, I think you can get coached up to do really well, just like the ACT prep stuff. Although it is a general indication of smartness/learning ability. I guess that is a good sign for Johnny. ;)
Ouch, that has got to hurt. ;)
I are confuseded.......
Can't compare ourselves to those programs until our young guys develop into the playmakers that are on Seattle's and SF's defense.
Personally I prefer 16-0 myself but reality is what it is. Too many questionmarks to be super optimistic. I've even been over optimistic after training camp and then let down. I see too many potholes in the road to be predicting even 10-6, not that it isn't possible
And really I'd like to see Trestman equal Lovie's last season record of 10-6.
What we need is someone to bring some nastiness to that Defense, someone who plays mad,put a hurt on someone & I hope Thornton or Bradford can be that guy because brad jones is a puss & hawk is just a guy nothing he does lives up to being the 5th pick hes joe average! Now if we can get a consistent pass rush everyone looks better in the d's backfield, without we suck like every other team in the league!!!! We'll have to out score them and i like our chances better then any other team in the north. Go Pack Go!
They're paid to do this...
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just heard on NFLN Kapernick just signed a 6y 126M extension. 61M guaranteed.
Radio City out as draft host, Chicago or L.A. are possible
Posted by Michael David Smith on June 5, 2014, 5:57 PM EDT
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The 2015 NFL draft will not be at Radio City Music Hall. It might be in Chicago or Los Angeles.
The NFL sent letters today to potential draft hosts in Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City today to request more information about their specific plans, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network. But the host for next year will not be Radio City, which is booked. If the draft stays in New York, it will be at Madison Square Garden.
Although the final date of the draft has not been set, the league has asked its potential hosts about availability for either April 22-25 or April 29-May 2. April 22 and April 29 are Wednesdays, indicating that the NFL is considering starting the draft earlier in the week and turning it into a four-day event. In another indication that the league is trying to make the draft a bigger event, one of the requirements the league has laid down for the potential hosts is that they need to have space for a fan festival in a space adjacent to the actual draft.
The NFL is expected to determine the exact date and location of the draft by the end of the summer.
UPDATE 6:48 p.m. ET: NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy confirms via Twitter that the league is focusing on Chicago, L.A., and New York for the 2015 draft, but that “other cities remain in the mix.”
Don't think so. They have had a few in Pasadena last century but I don't know if the Rams or Raiders were still in LA.
If LA can't support a football team why would they care to show up for a draft? They'd probably leave after the 20th pick anyway...to beat traffic home.
OK, maybe you would stay until the Bears pick at 32, but you wouldn't have much company.
Chicago is the best choice. And I'm sure Jerry Jones will be wanting a shot for it to come to big D.
You cant tune out the #2 market in the U.S.
What will get the NFL back into the L.A. market is hosting a Draft.
Really? In all honesty I don't really care where they hold the draft - it's not that big of a deal.
But if cities like Jacksonville and Kansas City have NFL teams why can't LA? They support a couple NBA teams, a hockey team, a couple baseball teams...boggles the mind.
First of all lets look at location and who started this whole NFL mess to begin with ... CHICAGO BEARS.
But its more about demographics and travel time.
How many fans can get to Chicago in 18 hours driving jacked up on caffine ? Denver.
So that defines when fans can get to Chicago ... Pittsburgh,Buffalo,KC,St.Loo,Indy,Clevland,Cinncy,Dallas,
Minnie,Detroit,and Green Bay.
Thats 13 fans in driving range to Chicago.
Lets compare that to NYC : ... 2 NYC fans ... Buffalo ...Philly ... DC ... Balt ... N.E.
Buffalo comes our way because of bloodlines. One of the Great Lakes teams.
Should there be a future NFL Draft in the South ? Absolutley. Atlanta as the place to do it ?
No, draft in the South, should happen in Nashville. Take your 12 hour compass and make a circle with that. Nashville pulls in Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, NO, Tampa, Cincy, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Carolina, Washington, Indy, of course us, Rams, Denver again, KC, etc Half the league at least is in a day's drive.
June, 11, 2014
By Kevin Seifert | ESPN.com
With the exception of a few unsigned draft choices, the business of the 2014 NFL offseason is largely complete. Now, then, is a good time to assess where teams are heading into the season, how much flexibility they will have for fall additions/contract extensions and what -- if anything -- might be holding them back.
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Jaguars $28,477,802 $10,270,165 $106,925,589
Browns $25,894,925 $16,955,359 $146,289,905
Bengals $24,595,254 $2,939,283 $111,111,551
Jets $22,485,969 $11,053,958 $111,216,927
Eagles $20,201,083 $9,453,783 $143,038,022
Titans $19,595,426 $8,074,725 $119,871,068
Dolphins $16,251,441 $5,909,630 $137,344,580
Packers $13,958,808 $2,663,213 $134,902,476
Colts $13,804,691 $1,871,402 $122,140,719
Buccaneers $13,311,919 $901,763 $129,795,161
Cardinals $11,532,210 $13,114,078 $131,311,330
Raiders $10,720,023 $11,933,709 $131,670,248
Cowboys $10,196,756 $23,199,516 $106,037,627
Seahawks $9,329,428 $8,475,035 $151,596,368
Falcons $9,167,571 $8,973,937 $152,682,276
Texans $8,905,819 $17,898,841 $119,664,447
Bills $7,913,052 $22,702,604 $140,633,488
Vikings $7,720,258 $5,243,455 $132,718,482
Patriots $7,351,320 $10,724,724 $114,884,937
Giants $6,952,272 $6,058,141 $136,065,925
Steelers $6,517,314 $10,947,900 $121,605,681
49ers $6,422,157 $3,518,288 $149,978,160
Bears $6,302,462 $12,576,989 $150,017,478
Panthers $6,067,076 $18,974,241 $124,458,233
Broncos $5,310,416 $5,708,186 $142,507,298
Rams $5,054,304 $6,331,753 $117,999,328
Ravens $4,649,136 $6,203,216 $159,973,035
Chiefs $3,173,106 $3,306,490 $125,863,379
Redskins $2,551,306 $10,635,233 $145,566,854
Chargers $2,527,164 $12,546,651 $129,437,660
Saints $1,940,911 $13,314,461 $129,346,457
Lions $1,068,918 $4,065,738 $113,185,798
Source: ESPN Stats & Information
Its just occurred to me that since the 1985 BEARS,in the last 29 years,
weve had 3 Safetys that we could point to with pride.
Two were gone before the Ninties.
Fencik
Deurson
Brown
Thats not many considering how the Angelo regime always seemed to draft one.
Other then our endless quest for a QB before JCut, Safety had to be second.
DAY ONE 1653 AD
DA BEARRSSE BOAT is somewhere near Green Bay in Lake Michigan.
Having to pull ashore because of a storm, coming into harbor we are being pulled towards land to dock ... many woman with **** ... big ones.
Women being mounted by animals is an ordinary site.
We come ashore armed with firearms and Trojens ... no need to send any disease back home.
One of the native girls speaks to us in sign language ...
it appears that she wants to suck on a member of the crews erect male appendage.
The answer is givin as a yes in hopes of diplomacy.
Contact with the natives has been established.
DAY TWO 1653 AD
The women of the Green Bay area are not only frisky, but insatiable,
the word has spead thruout their campsite that the crew of THE CHICAGO BEAR is both indomitable but always erect.
Green Bay men although cuckolds are starting to get angry.
DAY THREE 1653 AD
As expected ... the Green Bay men react in anger after their women have been hosed by all the members of THE CHICAGO BEAR.
The expected roustabout was bought off with $24.00 dollars of beads and a mint comdition first issue of Spiderman,.
DAY FOUR 1653 AD
THE CHICAGO BEAR sails up river powered by two Evinrude moters,
into parts unknown ... next stop : THE WORLD CUP !
That is the only post more incomprehensible than oddo's posts, jj. Congratulations. You have accomplished a feat that previously has been unattainable.
Just trying not to cut Taylor Boggs short Dallas.
They keep him hanging around.
have to pull for the small school guys (Humboldt State) where my son goes to school.
You'd have to spend about $9000 an hour even while you slept.
Not sure why folks you are so down on McCown. He had a sensational season last year and actually was statistically superior to Cutler.
This season with Tampa he won't have 2 pro-bowl receivers, a near pro-bowl HB, a fine TE and a very good pass blocking O-line. So most likely he won't approach the season he had with the Bears.
His rating in his first preseason game reflects the quality of his teammates, his unfamiliarity with them and the system as well as not having the guidance of a guru like Trestman.
So what?
Lets see how Clausen picks things up. He could be a better backup, I think he has a little more zip on the ball. If he can get the system down pat, it could be a win win.
Urlacher tried to that. Pulled his hammy and that was his career.
We all were down on our defense for letting a rookie QB beat us. Turns out next season he won the Super Bowl.
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Someone is going to give the kid a shot. I think the Rams left him off the PS just for that reason.
His agent needs to be calling the Cowboys.
Bulaga torn MCL. Ouch. And I just read the Pack only has 3 T on the roster. Is Angelo doing consulting in GB???
Elijah from Fredericksburg, VA
Vic, our defense just hasn’t been the same since the Nick Collins injury. Do you feel a hard-hitting safety with good ball skills is the key to a great defense in the NFL in today’s game?
Fredericksburg, Fredericksburg, Fredericksburg. I’m sorry, I had to do it.
Packrat is the master of posting in the wrong threads...
I didn't get the Fredericksburg, Fredericksburg, Fredericksburg joke. I live in Fredericksburg VA and I'm gonna find this Elijah and beat his ass for being a Packer fan.
I never, never, never, got abused like that. never. My sons never got that. Never. I don't care if that's how he was raised. he knew better.
He was quoted as saying he beat all his kids. He should never see them again and be in prison. Chances of that? slim and none. Money always talks.
He should have just used a belt like my dad did.
Sporty a 4 yr old generally only needs a quick swat from the hand on their behind to get their attention.
Another thing my wife and I both did when the kids were young and were acting up in public was to put our hand on the back of their neck and squeeze. It only took a few times and as soon as the hand went to their neck they would immediately straighten up.
If they acted up in a restaurant I would take them to the car. Only had to do that once and they never acted up in a restaurant again. The threat of it was enough. Can't tell you how often we were complimented for our children being so well behaved in restaurants.
BTW - I wonder how Dougy and V2 are feeling lately about their teams decisions.
I don't care how **** up some of the things the McCasky's have done... None compare to the bone headed decisions from the Wilfs lately. WTF were they thinking? ???
McCown's made some good throws and nearly every one of them has been dropped.
Bucs don't have anything near the talent at wideout we have, so I expect there to be a difference. McCown had a real nice deep ball caught finally by a wideout and then he got injured from the constant pressure in his face. Just like the guy that's in there now is experiencing. But I'm sure you know this, huh Keys.... ::)
Ya never know. We probably would still have Orton. Orton in Trestman's offense? He could be golden. Until Cuttler leads the Bears to the Superbowl, one can suppose just about any scenario happening. As of this moment the jury is out on Cuttler. Unless you are God its hard to predict the future.
Wshfl - You do see the irony in what you just posted, right?
Are you predicting that Orton would be "golden" in Trestman's office. Isn't that "supposing just about any scenario happening"? Because if your are predicting Orton to be golden in Trestman's system, then you are also saying that you are God.
;D
14-0...Rodgers to Nelson ,TD...ugh
To quote the late "Dandy" Don Meredith " ...turn out the lights, the party's over..."
Time for baseball playoffs...
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-hgh-testing-to-begin-monday/ar-BB7tkKy
Looks like Matthews will be coming back down to earth soon...
Curious to see how many players test positive.
C'mon jj show some passion and fire when commenting on da Bears... ::)
jj it may be a shoot out...kick the ball very high to Hester and maybe, just maybe, the coverage team can limit his return yards...
LOL. Agree.
What is the tme frame for the first part of that chart... there have been more cowboy arrests then 14...
What? No mention of the Bears??!!
If the season ended today, a number of high-profile teams, including the San Francisco 49ers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/sanfrancisco49ers/profile?team=SF), Seattle Seahawks (http://www.nfl.com/teams/seattleseahawks/profile?team=SEA), Baltimore Ravens (http://www.nfl.com/teams/baltimoreravens/profile?team=BAL) and Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT), would not be in the playoffs (http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture).
Geezus Packy clean out your posts before you post !
Too deep?
I don't care for some of your language,jj.
WOW! I wish that I had that kind of confidence.
I will absolutely be rooting for the Bears for the rest of the season.
Ohhh buddy, can you imagine the uproar if this guy comes to Chicago and beats the Bears and Cutler??? Wowsers.....might as well hang the entire staff following that game....
That's who it's gonna be, JJ.....might as well just put em in it now....
Raiders win! Even though they seem to be stuck on stupid and almost blew it while celebrating 20 yards down field while the Chiefs were snapping the ball. Luckily TO was called.
Congrats JJ!
Duck,
JJ's beloved teams this season 5-16 COMBINED so far! You just gotta have hope ! ;D
So help me god there's a BEARS-Raiders SUPERBOWL in the future!
Yeah, but who would you root for???
I don't know....Forte can't get tough yards at all and often seems very easy to tackle.
I really respect the honesty of Bear fans. You call turd a turd but give praise where it is deserved. Good posting board here.
http://nflmocks.com/2014/12/10/expect-chicago-bears-go-defense-2015-nfl-draft/?utm_source=FanSided+Daily&utm_medium=email
Bears expected to go heavy on defense in next draft.
I'm less worried about who we draft than about who is doing the drafting.
The LAST SUPERBOWL WON was built byPOPPA BEAR<a href=";http://www.chicagobears.com/tradition/bears-in-the-hall/jim-finks.html (http://www.chicagobears.com/tradition/bears-in-the-hall/jim-finks.html)">Jim Finks
Yeah all 7 of them plus Cuttler. A lot of good that would do
Hold on…do you mean you can't succeed at the quarterback position in the NFL by just upchucking lobs into the middle of the field like you're at the county fair trying to throw rings around milk bottles?
Are you telling me that what you could do at Texas A&M, you can't do in the pros? That everyone is faster than you? More athletic? You mean if you don't study hard all the time in a league with so many intelligent men who bust their ass in the classroom, you might fail?
You mean to say that in the NFL you have to be an accurate passer if you want to be a good quarterback? Nooooooo waaaayyyyy.
When Johnny Manziel was in college, he was electric. He was brilliant. He was the best. That may still happen in his professional career. But against the Cincinnati Bengals and their 20th-ranked passing defense Sunday, he was none of that. He was, as some across football predicted when Manziel was drafted, just another guy. He was worse. He made Tim Couch look like Joe Montana.
JJ, I heard from a Hub Arkush interview, take it FWIW, that Mugs and Finks were very close friends and Mugs had to literally beg Papa Bear to hire Finks as GM in late 70s and the rest as they say is history.
Tell that to the Patriots and the Steelers. Bears fans don't have bragging rights of a dynasty since the **** '40s.
We have success, we then start losing coaches. Other teams have success, they keep theirs. W T F....DeCosta should be fair game as should the Packers D coord. It's bs.....it really is...Rivera we had for a short time, he did great, he gets a coaching job. The next group of people we have success with, if ever, should be off limits for ten damn years. It's about time we have some continuing success! We've had crap since 85'....one year in the SB and it was a laughingstock...enough!!!
Lions completely getting **** over by the officials in this game. No reason to pick up that PI flag....none whatsoever. I've never seen a worse call or non call....I'm glad I'm not a Lions fan today
It never should have been a penalty, imo. However they threw the flag and then to pick it up and say never mind just looks really bad.
First off, I think there should be the whole ref crews that work these playoff games, not mix matched.
Maybe our genius GM will be able to pluck a gem out of the draft.
We should probably draft a QB each draft. The Packers kept hunting till they finally caught on with Rodgers. We need to keep looking as well. There is no player as important as that QB.....
John Fox launched and not one mention on this board?
Didn't take our new GM long to set up an interview. He will be in today.
Lifelong egotism.
Two players had more yards from scrimmage than Forte in 2014: DeMarco Murray and Leveon Bell.
We're not getting either of them.
If the balls were warm when inflated, the will lose pressure if used in a cold environment.
#DeflateGate reaches the White House, which isn’t moved
Posted by Darin Gantt on January 23, 2015, 7:41 PM EST
Josh Earnest
AP
One of the most amazing things about #DeflateGate is the way it has crossed the lines of sports into the national consciousness.
Banning Bellicheck from coaching for one year ought to be fitting.
Cheating is cheating, I think that in itself puts things in perspective. With that said, this is the media we're talking about, everything gets overblown..
It will be a fine and some draft picks is my guess.
It should be a year ban like Sean Peyton got who didn't even cheat. If it is anything less the fix is in from Goodell and **** is really going to hit the fan.
The coach or Brady are going to have to take a year off. One of them is going to have to take the fall. I am guessing it is Brady. They are going to have to find at least a bit of proof though. We all know he encouraged someone to do it but that someone or someone who knows has to sing.
Oh yeah, I remember that scene.
I recall telling my neighbors how cool that movie was and how much I enjoyed it. They told me they walked out just shortly before that scene.
My neighbors put their house on the market soon after.
I'm bout to go medieval on they azz
Ted Phillips?
Looks like Williams is taking a leave of absence.. He seems to think he'll be back..
One never knows, does one? Season is over. BS time.
Start with a good QB. Draft big guys. Trade down.
Sounds logical ... it worked for the Packers until they met a team that did it better then them.
Hopefully BEARS will be the next team to do that. :D
I was just coming here to post that. The world is upside down. The Niners now have a way more dysfunctional front office then the Bears.
JJ its what they can put on the field, its not about the front office.
JJ is asking about the coaching changes making the Bears better which does not include the front office. And the front office, which includes the GM position, has a huge influence on what they put on the field.
There's no way of really knowing - in fact I don't how much influence Trestman had with Emery last year or the year before. Lovie probably had more than Trestman that first year but who knows.
As for Peanut, he's probably promoting a defensive lineman or linebacker. But my guess is the players have virtually no input in the draft.
Cutler is a coach-killer.
Right. Cutler will be gone before Fox is gone. George put too much into this to let Cutler stand in the way of winning. Cutler either straightens up and flies right or he is a goner. Fox has been around the league too long to put up with Cutler's antics. Fox wont tolerate a bunch of crap.
He was a problem when he turned the ball over a record amount of times. He was a problem when he couldn't hit a receiver in stride to save his life. He was a problem when he was either high or low with his throws. I mean c'mon now....
Fix the run game and you've fixed a lot of the problems. All of a sudden the offense stays on the field longer and keeps the anemic defense on the bench..
Fix the OL and you could fix the run game, which would fix the rest of the O.
I think Cutler actually managed himself decently with all the pressure and criticism thrown his way. He did seem to physically collapse under it, though. Seemed to get worse as things got deeper and deeper in the hole. By the end, he was all jacked up and really needed to be benched just to get his head back on straight.
Hawk's cut no surprise. He has slipped badly in recent years. Worth another 3.5MM in cap space.
Kind of like our Edgar Bennett signing in the 90s
He ALWAYS killed the Bears - hence the fascination with him.
If he leaves it would be a disappointment. I think he would also be disappointed, in time. A so-so QB will never achieve a relationship that maximizes Cobb's special talents.
I think all the millions he would be getting from his new team would alleviate that disappointment. And whose to say he doesn't go to a contender that has a shot at the Super Bowl in the remainder of his years.
If you have to choose between Bulaga and Cobb - you keep Bulaga. You saw your offense last year without Bulaga.
Would you pay that much for a possession receiver for the Bears? :-\
I don't know what he's asking but why do you call him a possession receiver? 91 receptions over 1200 yards and 12 TDs at 14 yards per reception
If he moves it won't be for those "millions of dollars he gets from another team". I
Then he would be moving for ? To get out of Wisconsin? To get away from a future HOF QB? To be the #1 WR in the offense?
For the majority of the players, when its contract time in the NFL, it's all about the money.
Yes
Probably no more than you, but I think everybody is in agreement we need more defensive players than offensive players. I think the draft will be used to supplement what they need that they cant get in FA. And that starts March 10th. So like all of us just watch the moves we make in FA. It will also be interesting to see which holdovers are kept and which are jettisoned. Like if they get a big NT in FA they likely wont draft one.
Whose the Nose Tackles in play in Free Agency ?
Don't have the time to keep up on this.
Lesean McCoy to Buffalo ??? :o
Not really, it's just a piece of cloth.
Anyone interested in Bryce Brown if Buffalo releases him?What would be interesting is if we drafted players.
McCoy, Foles, De. Jackson, and Maclin stripped off of that team in the last two years and seemingly with production ahead of them. I wonder what exactly Chip Kelly is up to? Sam Bradford? I know Foles isn't the 2nd coming of Brady, but Sam Bradford? Wml is probably right, another shoe will soon drop.
Where have you heard this before?
A team has a high priced big name receiver who causes apparent turmoil for the team. So they unload him with their 7th round draft pick and get back a 5th.
Miami Dolphins just did this sending Mike Wallace to the Vikes.
....which I hope means we don't spend some of our draft picks to move up for JJ's fav player this yearWhat if he falls to us at #7 ... then what?
Engineer a trade with a team wanting him, but don't worry that isn't happening anyways. That would be like the odds of you and I winning the powerball lottery tomorrow
I want a defensive stud at #7. I want somebody at a position of need that we can immediately put on the field and play. Right now we have no NT and you cant run a 3/4 without one. In my world if you improve that defense we win at least 3 more games in 2015, even with Cutler. We haven't invested in top defensive talent in years. All our #1 picks have been busts up till the last draft. We cant afford that any more. Defense has always been the trademark of the Bears and the last two have been horrible and old. That needs to change. The thing is you don't get #7's often and you sure don't want to waste it on a backup QB. We need starters out of this draft, not backups. If this were Andrew Luck instead of Mariota I'd be the first to say draft a QB at #7.
Wsh you keep seeing things as backup QB and I see them as future starter down the road.
That is where you and I agree to disagree at. ;)
Iv'e had the patience of THIRTY **** YEARS since the last time we went to the dance and won.
So yes I have the patience to build a TEAM that is a dynasty.
An impact player as you stated could get us 3 more wins ... maybe.
Wow ... that would get us back to 8-8 , which is where we have been floating at for decades.
What I want is what the Patriots have and the Packers too ... consistency.
I seem to have noticed that there is a QB at the helm of both teams.
Vince Wilfork is gone ... Tom Brady stays.
Raji could be gone ... Rodgers stays.
Impact player? You draft them and bring them along over time ...which we have lots of. :)
What do you want at #7?
packrat
Are you still spouting about BPA?
Get back with me if the Pack drafts a QB, HB, offensive line, or WR in the first round. Maybe they go TE again but I'm thinking defense.
Who knows? But why do you think there are a lot of concerns with Mariota?
They just don't have much of a track record in a pro style, under the center, read the defense, type of an offense. Doesn't mean they can't.
Mariota is gone but that doesn't mean I don't want him.
I wish your Raiders would somehow get him.
Pats get hurt badly
From a business standpoint the Pats made out on this deal. They don't pay Brady his 2+ Million Salary and only take a 1 Million fine = Net $ gain. Then they don't have to pay for a first round pick salary = Net $ gain. They don't have to pay for the later round pick = net $ gain.
The fickle finger of fate points again to the NE Un-patriots. Slick Billy Bellyache.
http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2015/01/stats_show_the_new_england_patriots_became_nearly_fumble_proof_after_a_2006.html (http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2015/01/stats_show_the_new_england_patriots_became_nearly_fumble_proof_after_a_2006.html)
Sic 'em, jj.
More news about the Pats...I'm sick of all this Pats nonsense.
DALLAS COWBOYS ARE AMERICA'S TEAM ...
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS ARE GODS TEAM.
Kraft might be better served cleaning up his organization.
Pace seems to be doing just that
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2491579-br-nfl-1000-ranking-the-top-35-centers-from-2014 (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2491579-br-nfl-1000-ranking-the-top-35-centers-from-2014)
'Coaching prowess'?? He is a average coach at best with a HOF QB! Who are they kidding. Like Peke said, let Rodgers go down for a couple seasons and they'll be singing the 'DITCH McCarthy!' tune real fast....
I really think the Bears will be better, but not talented enough to be elite. Frustrating, and a few key pieces away from where we need to be. I just hope we are not too middle of the road to lose out on elite talent going forward.
Bad attitude and locker room cancer. I think White is going to wind up being better, faster and replace him quite well. My concerns are on D and the talent we might be missing there.
I was pissed as well that we let him go. However I am guessing they knew a talented WR was going to be the best available player for them on the board at their pick. If that was their thinking I understand why they traded him.
I know. But I can understand their thinking of they need that money for defense. I only wish Emery had not extended Marshall if this was how it was going to go down.
Also after seeing the newest Kromer incident I am beginning to think the last coaching regime was an absolute train wreck.
WOW....Geno Smith out 6-10 weeks because he was sucker punched in the locker room and has a broken jaw. By a LB that the Jets just cut. Unreal....
Given his injury history and lack of production and lack of speed - the Packers should get an 8th round draft choice for this guy.
There has to be better options for the Panthers if they are looking for a starter.
A re-shuffling of Biblical proportions?
"So the last will be first, and the first will be last."