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Title: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 05, 2019, 06:06:21 pm
Bear Down!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 05, 2019, 06:07:54 pm
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Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 06:12:11 pm
GO BEARS!!!

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 07:25:49 pm
HELL YEAH!!

Great start!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearFan on September 05, 2019, 07:38:29 pm
BOOM!!!  SACK!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 07:52:52 pm
The kick is GOOD!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 08:03:24 pm
Defense is kicking azz!  Offense is pretty conservative so far.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 08:05:41 pm
Nice run!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 05, 2019, 08:09:53 pm
D is collapsing....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 05, 2019, 08:10:19 pm
Pathetic....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 05, 2019, 08:12:26 pm
Now can Tru throw more than ints here. Gotta get untracked and start playing ball.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 05, 2019, 08:19:01 pm
I'm already exhausted watching Trubisky.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 05, 2019, 08:33:22 pm
Not looking good for Trubisky...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 05, 2019, 08:35:04 pm
Offense is pathetic right now. Maybe they'll wake up in the second half. Hopefully it'll be the reverse of last year. Mack needs to make his presence known.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 05, 2019, 08:47:28 pm
Bears looking like excrement 👎👎👎👎
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on September 05, 2019, 08:50:06 pm
Time for some halftime adjustments...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 05, 2019, 08:56:06 pm
So much for offensive improvement from Trubisky. Pathetic offense
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 05, 2019, 08:59:40 pm
This is basically a forfeit if they continue playing like this. Need to get the ball downfield. And where's Mack?? Prove to us this is a SB worthy team. So far it's anything but...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: joki13 on September 05, 2019, 09:10:23 pm
  Looks like Nagy and Trubisky have regressed.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 05, 2019, 09:19:21 pm
Nagy is the worst.  Ready for him to go away.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on September 05, 2019, 09:26:00 pm
These guys might actually need to play some in pre-season.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 09:27:02 pm
Settle down.

They need to PA pass when Montgomery is in the game.  Every time he is in they run.  Packers are keying on that.

Some receivers besides Robinson need to step up.  I would like to see some RB screens as well.

Some adjustments on offense need to be made.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 09:27:10 pm
There we go!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 09:28:10 pm
Oh come on.  The clock has hit zero three times for the Packers and they didn't whistle it dead.  Call it the same!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 09:28:34 pm
Montgomery!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 05, 2019, 09:36:19 pm
Nothing like FU's to take you out of FG range....two delays...nice
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 09:38:53 pm
Rodgers crying like a little **** for a flag.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 09:39:42 pm
4th quarter.  7-3 game. 

What did you think Rodgers and the Packers were going to give it to us?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 09:46:02 pm
No way Packers win this unless the fix is in.

He just threw the flag to slow things down for his defense.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 09:51:25 pm
Well for fucks sake!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 09:52:07 pm
And this is why you need to play some in pre-season.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 05, 2019, 09:53:47 pm
Another penalty.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 05, 2019, 09:55:44 pm
Cluster.... Looks like 0-1 against the fing Packers, again. W T F
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 05, 2019, 09:58:58 pm
Ok, this is where Mack needs to earn his giant paycheck. Time is ticking
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 05, 2019, 10:01:34 pm
Just let them get wide open 😡😡😡😡
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearFan on September 05, 2019, 10:08:59 pm
Trubisky needs to start playing like a first round pick. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 05, 2019, 10:09:51 pm
Seriously pissed with this pathetic effort. 😡😡 That's game. 5 mins and a TD to tie. 😡
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 05, 2019, 10:10:09 pm
Nagy - the worst Bears head coach of my lifetime.

Worse than Gibron, Jauron, Wannstedt, Trestman, Fox.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on September 05, 2019, 10:12:51 pm
3rd and 10. not even close.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 05, 2019, 10:15:30 pm
Nothing changes with this team. Same ****, year after year. Fk it up against the Pack AT home. Next two are away.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 05, 2019, 10:21:05 pm
Think about this: the Bears blew not one but three drafts in the Trubisky debacle.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on September 05, 2019, 10:32:47 pm
Pack 98 - 95-6



See you in Lambeau!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 10:37:29 pm
Bears will win there and take the division.  I have zero doubt about it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 05, 2019, 10:39:24 pm
If the Bears cant find a way to score more 3 pts they need to go play college teams.  Maybe SI was right @ 7-9.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on September 05, 2019, 10:44:47 pm
Since 1992 it's been....


https://youtu.be/Y7DnhH25tLE


Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on September 05, 2019, 10:46:12 pm
Wonder if mack misses Deshon Kiser....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on September 05, 2019, 10:46:27 pm
OL and offensive play calling was awful.  Defense can't carry a team to the super bowl anymore.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 10:49:08 pm
I seriously believe the Bears will be just fine.  Nagy chose to rest them in pre-season and be conservative.

That defense will only get better and they will not face another QB as good as Rodgers who they held to 7 points.

Sorry I despise losing to the Packers but if the Bears win the division again and go farther in the playoffs does it really matter?


Not that upset. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on September 05, 2019, 10:49:53 pm
Especially if the Packers defense is better...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 05, 2019, 10:50:41 pm
You arent a SB team if you cant score more than 3 pts.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 10:51:16 pm
It isn't.  Not even close.

The Bears defense will be top 3 in the league probably number 1.

The Bears offense will be a LOT better then what we saw tonight. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 10:53:37 pm
Use logic not emotion.

The Bears defense just held the best QB in the league to 7 points.  They had no film on said offense.  That is always tough.

My concern is our offense.  Which we know is at least middle of the road and has a lot of weapons.  I don't think Nagy had a great game plan on offense tonight.  He will have better one's going forward.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 05, 2019, 10:54:04 pm
Should have drafted Mahomes. KC will go to SB before the Bears
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on September 05, 2019, 11:06:39 pm
The Packers scored 10.


Which is 7 more than the bear...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 05, 2019, 11:08:24 pm
I am not convinced Trubisky can get it done. He's not seeing the entire field and missing open recievers, seeing them. And tonight, for some frigging bizarre reason, he runs into pressure. The whole team just looked disconnected, not interested. Saw a bit of fire AT TIMES from the D but they just don't get it with the Packers. They just freeze up and play stupid and senseless football...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on September 05, 2019, 11:08:59 pm
Aaron Rodgers is now 18-5 against the bear.


Enjoy
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on September 05, 2019, 11:11:54 pm
Aaron Rodgers is now 18-5 against the bear.


Enjoy
Best QB to ever play the game has 1 SB win.  Can't enjoy that.  Regret is a terrible thing. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 11:17:01 pm
The Bears have better talent then the Packers top to bottom except at QB and kicker.  Rodgers is probably the best QB I have ever see play the game.  Even better then Brady.

Nagy thought his defense could get it done.  They held them to ten.  Sucks for us we were held to 3. 

Other teams will figure out the Packers offense in a few games.  I never liked facing them first game.

The Bears will be fine. 

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 05, 2019, 11:19:06 pm
The Packers defense is middle of the road.  But they spent their entire off season studying the Bears offense and hired Amos to fill in the details.  Remember when we used to do that?

We will be fine.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 05, 2019, 11:42:02 pm
Pettine out coached Nagy and our ol is overrated.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 06, 2019, 12:03:17 am
Last season, that first half of the first game was amazing. They came out on fire and lit the Pack up bad. Then they took their foot of the throat. This year? Just pathetic all game. The D kept them in it but even they had miscues that cost points-the wide open reciever in the drive that resulted in a TD. But the offense was flat out terrible. I do not have the optimism you do, Peke, not at all. They've got a very tough schedule this season and if they don't get this O figured out, it's going to be a long season. We've seen plenty of Bears teams with good D and terrible offenses go nowhere. Right now, Trubisky has a TON to prove and it's not looking good presently....one game down, we'll see how it goes hereout.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 06, 2019, 12:59:51 am
Can't believe waited 8 months for this.

Packers db's were like glue on bear's receivers.
It looked like they had 20 players on D.

Nagys offense did not fool Pettine at all.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on September 06, 2019, 03:07:54 am
1 - Trubisky stunk.

2 - 3rd & inches and you line up in the shotgun? You need a yard & you run Patterson up the middle? Cohen with no rushes?

3 - we need a TE.

4 - Cody Whitehair was terrible, isn't he supposed to be our best OL? He was shockingly bad. The OL is way overrated.

5 - Allen Robinson looked like the only guy on offense ready to play.

6 - This team was not ready to start the season.

7 - Anthony Miller - 0 catches.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 06, 2019, 05:11:42 am
Cade McBiscuit looked like sh!t! This is why you play your starters in preseason. 3 points? WTF? So we could've had Mahomes, instead we get to watch this display of garbage. Only the first game but we just spotted Rogers a game lead in our division.

Nagy better dig deep.. You just lost one the most important games of the year for Bears fans..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 06, 2019, 05:12:25 am
Not to mention.. What a fukking em-bear-ass-ment!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on September 06, 2019, 07:02:53 am
I knew as soon as I saw all the 85 Bears marching out waving white flags we were going to lose.  Let that 85 shiit rest already, and what was the point of waving white towels???

The OL was putrid last night, between pressure and penalties.  Trubisky was putrid.  What was up with those passes to Patterson where he was just lobbing them up in the air, but not far enough?  And it looked like he thought it was still preseaon throwing INTO double coverage, see INT for example.  And it seems like he has been nuetered and is afraid to run.  Anthony Miller targeted exatly ONE time.  WTF???  RB Davis was ok, but Montgomery was much better, but yes the Fudge were keying on him as a running play.  Try throwing to him some more.  Shaheen was putrid.  And Burton the pusssy didnt play in another big game.  I am not buying the "mystery" groin strain at all.  If we cant count on him, lets find someone we can count on.  Robinson looked good, but man he needs some help.  And did Cohen get any runs?  He was supposed to be our 3rd/all purpose player.  And Taylor Gabriel with the pushing off, not sure if that is on him or Trubiskys bad passes/not far enough.

D was good, and Roquan had some nice plays.  I was hoping for a little more.  At first I didnt think Clinton-Dix was even playing, as he was invisible.  The old I'm not doing anything to my ex-team, ala Burton.  But I did see his jersey in the second half.  I guess I was hoping/wishing for some more turnovers or picks.  They held them to 10 pts, so cant complain too much, but Mr Vaseline has that knack for getting rid of the ball at the last second.  I loved the sacks, and the last one he was kind of ginger getting up from. 

Overall I think all that superbowl hype went to their heads.  If the O cant get it together it will be a 7-9 year.  If I was Nagy I would make sure every O starter next year plays in the preseason, at lest until they show they are competent.  This could be a long year, and the last 8 months were hard enough, but last night was painful. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on September 06, 2019, 07:52:30 am
Well the atmosphere to start the game yesterday was electric.  However that pathetic display from our offense, destroyed what should have been a great evening for all Bears fans.

The play calling was bad; I mean really, really bad.

Trubisky was WAY over throwing the ball.  I know it is just one game, but really makes me wonder if he will pan out for us at QB.

Why did we not use D. Montgomery more?  He got a couple of touches, he needed more.  I think by the end of the year he will be a workhorse.

No turnovers?  Hopefully that trend does not continue.  Should of had a pick six early in game. 

We that was a major wake up call for me.  So much for booking Miami hotel (super bowl) and going to have to find a new QB in FF this year.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on September 06, 2019, 07:55:14 am
I think sometimes those offensive masterminds get too cute. We may need to line up in the I formation sometimes and just give it to the running back.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 06, 2019, 08:14:49 am
Nagy needs to come out and apologies to all Bears fans. He had all off season and that's the best they could come up with? Now they go on the road the next two games. Start 0 and 3 and you can just about kiss the season good bye. I just can't get over how bad McBiscuit looked, terrible!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on September 06, 2019, 08:27:54 am
YEah I was thinking they kept saying Trubisky is getting into level 202 plays, maybe he needs to go back to level 101 plays.  Cause what they tried last night didnt work.

As far as next week, at first I wasnt too worried about the Broncos and Flacco, but after seeing Trubisky last night, they could shut us out all together. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on September 06, 2019, 08:50:52 am
3 points. 3.  Am I the only one who was shocked by 1st and 40 ? Bears got beat fair and square. Doubt that its going to be a good year. Throw everything else out the window, the Bears only
scored 3 points. Receivers were always well covered. No tight end really, and now I might as well say that at the time I thought the Howard trade was a mistake.  Those 3 on the field last night
didn't impress.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on September 06, 2019, 09:16:10 am
Last year they never scored less than 14 - they were fun to watch

http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2018/REG/BEARS

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on September 06, 2019, 09:37:09 am
Great podcast after the game:

https://wgnradio.com/2019/09/06/hoge-and-jahns-week-1-postgame-show-packers-10-bears-3/
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 06, 2019, 09:45:02 am
Had to record the game and watched it last night well after midnight, so I haven't sifted through the posts (apologize for anything redundant).

1)  Defense did a helluva job.  Did just about everything better than last year, except for one thing.  Getting turnovers.  But they played well enough to win the game if they had an average output from the offense.  Holding Rodgers and Devante Adams to those numbers was an accomplishment.  But they would have had to be perfect and thrown a shutout to win this game.   Would have liked to seen more of Jackson and Clinton-Dix but they did their jobs.  Floyd is a monster with 2 hands isn't he?  And Robertson-Harris had a nice game when given some quality minutes.  Did anyone notice that Trevathan was kind of quiet?

2)  Offensive line - When you have a pass run ratio that is incredibly one sided it puts a lot of pressure on the QB and the O-line.  I thought for the most part they did an OK job.  A lot of the sacks were not their fault...but the last one was all  Whitehairs.  Also this was Daniels first game at center in the NFL.  I was concerned going in about his matchup with Kenny Clark - he's good. 

3) Wide receivers.  Gabriel had a tough night.  So close on two big catches that could have turned the game around.  Robinson was an all out stud - nuff said.  Where the H was Miller?  Targeted twice?  As I'm sure someone mentioned - the Packers played tight coverage daring the Bears wideouts to beat them (and the opposite was the Bears corners playing sometimes 10 yards off the wide receivers often giving them easy 7 to 8 yards).

4)  Running backs.  We need to see more of Montgomery.  In fact we need to see more of all the running backs...actually running.  Nagy has a tendency to abandon the run way too early in games.

5)  QB - Trubisky is not the Qb that you can drop back over 50 times in a game.  15 running plays and 3 of those were Trubisky scrambles.  There's something to him getting rid of the ball quickly.  The longer he sits back there the lower his rating drops.  He's got athleticism - he's got the arm, but his pocket presence was not good.   Part of that could be the receivers were not open - but part of it falls on him not finding secondary receivers and forcing the ball when his primary is open.

6)  TE - Shaheen...really?   You double dribble on your only catch.  Two games in a row without Burton - two losses.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 06, 2019, 09:53:27 am
FWIW now that I've had time to let the game sink in a little:

The Good:
Defense is stout. Regression ? I didn't see any regression. Only scoring drive they gave up was on a hurry up drive (can't recall if Mack was taking a breather or not) and a busted play. Expected Rodgers to make at least 1-2 plays a game like that.

Montgomery is a beast (as is Robinson). The rest of the O... not so much.....

Oh and the Bears have a 100% FG percentage. YAY !

The Bad:
Special teams still taking the "Special Bus". ST coordinator (despite Nagys pathetic playcalling this game) I think is still the weakest coach of the bunch.

For some reason the Bears receivers looked like they were glued to the Packer secondary most of the night.

Trubisky looked rusty. Maybe some more pre-season play would've helped ?

The Ugly: (and now the angst :D)
Nagy's playcalling. WTF was that all about ? Patterson in a dive up the middle on 3rd and short ? Patterson out in routs (that he cannot run) and all those **** passes, Christ....

And speaking of runs, why the hell wasn't Montgomery in the game more and what happened to calling runs at all (he runs angry and is going to be a force in the NFL).

Shaheen. Waste. Of. Space. 'nuff said. Don't even get me started on "No Show" Burton......

Oline play. Too bad they didn't get more playing time in pre-season. Again what seems to be a bad Nagy decision


"One game does not a season make" but boy do they have to put this one behind them and wake the **** up. Maybe they were buying into their own hype ? Expect better next week but they may be lucky to be .500 going into the bye if the change is only incremental.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: joki13 on September 06, 2019, 11:00:16 am
  To think e could have had Mahomes without trading away a bunch of draft choices. Trubisky was only a one year starter. I watched Mahomes play lights out at Texas Tech for two years. I watched the tape on Trubisky and I just couldn't see what all the excitement about him was coming from. I was OK with the selection cause we needed a QB,but,I thought Pace was stupid for trading so much when Mahomes would have been sitting there for us. Oh well hind sight. I will say one thing that hurt was the lack of playing time in the exhibition season. It showed last night.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 06, 2019, 11:12:41 am
  To think e could have had Mahomes without trading away a bunch of draft choices. Trubisky was only a one year starter. I watched Mahomes play lights out at Texas Tech for two years. I watched the tape on Trubisky and I just couldn't see what all the excitement about him was coming from. I was OK with the selection cause we needed a QB,but,I thought Pace was stupid for trading so much when Mahomes would have been sitting there for us. Oh well hind sight. I will say one thing that hurt was the lack of playing time in the exhibition season. It showed last night.

31 teams didn't forsee how good Mahomes would be so early.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 06, 2019, 11:37:49 am
The whole thing has me wondering about Pace. Were we a really crappy team when he took over? Absolutely. Are we a much improved team? yes. But there are things that are glaring. A lot of people were shocked by the Bears move to get Trubisky. Even as late as the end of the last season I thought Trubisky would be fine. I know it's just the first game, but come the fukk on.. Mitch looked like sh!t last night. Another thing, where the h3ll is our TE? No TE? There is just no excuse for last night..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 06, 2019, 11:40:33 am
31 teams didn't forsee how good Mahomes would be so early.

31 teams didn't have a shot at Mahomes, he went 10th. It's all a crap shoot, agree, but Mitch was a serious crap shoot.

I can't get over how bad the O looked last night..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 06, 2019, 11:47:03 am
joki was the one person here who was on Mahomes pre-draft. Props to him for that...he nailed that one.

I'd be curious to see how many snaps Miller was on the field for...I'd bet it was less than half their total snaps. I saw more of Wims than I did Miller. And I only recall one target, and Tru badly overshot him...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on September 06, 2019, 12:01:26 pm
I think on the Hoge and Jahns podcast they said that Hicks and Mack were both out for some of the plays on the GB TD drive. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 06, 2019, 12:09:40 pm
31 teams didn't have a shot at Mahomes, he went 10th. It's all a crap shoot, agree, but Mitch was a serious crap shoot.

I can't get over how bad the O looked last night..

Any team could have made the trade Kansas city did.
My point is he was erratic in college and far from a sure thing.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 06, 2019, 02:11:08 pm
Wims 20 of 71 plays...Miller 15 of 71...

Trubisky needs to do a much better job of finding the open man...ARob was blanketed by 2 guys on the pick in the end zone. Stupid pass...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 06, 2019, 03:20:22 pm
Should have drafted Mahomes. KC will go to SB before the Bears

This is like saying water is wet.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 06, 2019, 03:36:08 pm
Mahome's rating his last year in college was 157.0.   Trubisky's was 157.9.

Mahome's came from school known for churning out system QBs (Texas Tech) while Trubisky played in a pro offense at NC.   There was some question as to whether Mahomes was another system QB.   And I don't know many of the draft experts that Mahomes ahead of Trubisky. 

Plus Trubisky doesn't play with all-pro's Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce.

And the guy that the Bears were supposed to take at #3 in the 2017 (Solomon Thomas) isn't even starting for the 49ers.

Trubisky did not have a good game and he's not Pat Mahomes NFL MVP,  but I'm not going to start whining about what we shoulda coulda done in the draft.  Trubisky has shown that he's better than what he did last night.

Recall the Bears were ranked in the bottom third of the NFL in offense last year.  What changed this year?  Did they add any game breaking receivers?  They added David Montgomery and barely utilized him.  They also lost the services of a very good TE in Burton which is a good portion of the offense.

Bears need to cleanup their blocking assignments especially with Daniels and Whitehair's position swap, get Montgomery more involved (and Cohen), get Burton healthy, get Miller and Wims involved and Nagy needs to balance his play calling better.

Recall last year we were in a similar spot after the opener and the Bears rebounded.  Next week is game 2 - come off the ledge.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 06, 2019, 04:41:07 pm
Good thing they have more than a week to right the ship.

I don't think the Broncos are going to be very good, and Flacco sure isn't Rogers.

If Nagy is a good coach they will play much better on offense next week. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 06, 2019, 05:26:22 pm
One thing Mahomes has that Mitch doesn't, Andy Reid..

Mitch has to show that he is better than he was last year. Last night he didn't show any progress.. Remember, this is the NFL (not for long).. Another thing, remember, Mitch was already here when Nagy took over.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on September 06, 2019, 05:43:11 pm
The test next week will be Fangio's D against Nagy/Mitch.  No doubt Fangio knows the ins and outs of both.  Lets see if he can capitalize. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 06, 2019, 05:47:06 pm
We're all mad as hell.  Like many of you were doing earlier in the evening,  I was screaming at my TV at 3am this morning watching the recording of the game (surprised no one at home heard me).

Sure, I felt bad that we got embarrassed on national TV against our biggest rival in the 100th year of the NFL - just like we did when they retired Sayers and Butkus number years ago.  And I also threw a pity party on why the Bears can't ever have a decent offense.  I've spent years...no, decades watching a defense play its heart out and then the keystone cops Bears offense lines up and trips over their diks.

But did you notice the completions Trubisky made were usually in very tight windows.  The passes to Robinson down the sideline.  Even the pass when Gabriel was pushed out of bounds was tight throw.  Some of Cohen's throws had guys closing in on him a split second before the ball arrived.  I give credit to the Pack on their DB play.  They have loaded up on DBs the past 4 or 5 years in the draft and now have 2 #1s, a #2 and Amos.   With the Bears abandoning the run it played right into their 4 - 1- 6 alignment. 

I bet the Bears don't want to wait 10 days to wipe the stench of this game from their memory, but it will give them some time to work things out and maybe even Burton can use the time to get back to health.  And I'd bet Miller isn't 100% right now either.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: method on September 06, 2019, 05:52:03 pm
The team just didnt look ready for game play. If only the NFL had some series of games they play before games started counting... not sure if we can look into that. Perhaps Nagy's move pays off in January, but the NFL is too competitive to punt the first 1-2 weeks of the season because you decided to bench all your starters and your opponents did not. The OL showed very clearly their communication was not game ready, nor imo was their physical conditioning.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on September 06, 2019, 05:59:00 pm
Rogers didnt play a single snap in the preseason, whereas Mitch handed off THREE whole times.  And Rogers did look rusty, but he shook it off, thanks to genetics and experience.  Mitch, just shiit the bed. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on September 06, 2019, 06:25:21 pm
this was supposed to be a running team. Why pass so much & run so little?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 06, 2019, 06:38:34 pm
So the packers were playing 6 db's.  I thought you were supposed to be able to run down their throats when a defense does that?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davep on September 06, 2019, 07:50:15 pm
The biggest frustration for me was that they never really tried to establish the run, even though Montgomery really looked good.  Instead, they obviously wanted to go with Davis to try to establish the pass.  Never a good idea in the NFL Central.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 06, 2019, 08:46:17 pm
Trubisky was lucky not to have three picks last night as Green Bay dropped one and another was broken up with incidental contact.

Trubisky playing better than he did against the Packers really isn't the point. The question is do people think he looks like a QB that can win titles? It's not about managing offenses anymore. You have to be able to make plays down the field.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 06, 2019, 08:50:08 pm
Trubisky was lucky not to have three picks last night as Green Bay dropped one and another was broken up with incidental contact.

Trubisky playing better than he did against the Packers really isn't the point. The question is do people think he looks like a QB that can win titles? It's not about managing offenses anymore. You have to be able to make plays down the field.

Your asking that in game 1? 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 06, 2019, 09:23:20 pm
Nagy is the problem.  In way over his head.  One of the worst NFL head coaches of the past quarter century.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 07, 2019, 06:54:09 am
Quote
Nagy is the problem.  In way over his head.  One of the worst NFL head coaches of the past quarter century.

No sarcasm font ? :D

So many folks seem butt-hurt over the loss everywhere I look, but as I've gotten older I've found it isn't worth it to let something color my outlook that way. Now when i was younger it would ruin at least a few days into the next week for me at work and I'd be more cynical and bitter than I usually am (which is quite a lot normally to be honest :D)

Maybe all the practice of being disappointed over the last 3 decades and have tempered me (or maybe I've just gotten old :D).  Now I've got a 1/2 hour of anger after a game then shrug it off. It sucks to invest feelings into something passionately only to get your heart ripped out but as I've reached the point in life where it stops giving you things but starts taking them away (friends, family, health) I now know its not the destination but the ride that matters.  And I won't let it spoil this weekend's Redzone football fest as I enjoy the game too damn much.....

Enjoy the roller coaster season. BEAR DOWN and Go BEARS !

Postscript:
Got an email from a friend with a quote from earlier last week by Nagy that he didn't want the team to peak to early and my friend added "Good Job then". With friends like those........ :)

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 07, 2019, 10:20:17 am

Bears4Ever

I'm getting to where you are but not yet there. 

Fortunately for me after watching the recording of the GB loss early Friday morning I had to go to bed.   Normally after a loss I'm very irritable towards my family and the dog.   The anger is replaced by general sadness and depression which decreases throughout the week and generally gets replaced by  excitement while I start focusing on the upcoming game. 

It's really therapeutic to come here to share my grief and listen to the over reacted opinions that I also had a few hours after the game.

Should I be laying on a couch while I say all this?

 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 07, 2019, 11:33:10 am
LOL!! I'm not nearly as animated about the whole NFL in general. I used to be able to name at least the main players on every team. Not anymore.. I don't spend the money on the ticket anymore, and haven't for quite awhile. Now, if the game isn't nationally televised I listen to the WBBM (radio) feed. It won't be much longer the NFL will stand for overrated (if it hasn't already reached that status). There's no loyalty, the players don't care about the team they play for, they care about the paycheck they receive. It's not about the fan anymore, it's about money and how things can be manipulated for a political agenda. Sad, but it's reality. There's more to life than watching football...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 07, 2019, 11:39:12 am
And how out of skew are things when a football player makes $20 mil in one season. And a police officer or a nurse or teachers or whoever is lucky to make $50k and scrapes by..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 07, 2019, 11:44:29 am
And musicians and movie actors.  Along with pro athletes - they are all entertainers.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on September 07, 2019, 11:52:02 am
Like it or not it’s supply and demand.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 07, 2019, 11:57:07 am
I go back to about 1968 getting disappointed
I haven't missed more than 25 games since then.
I don't get emotional over games I just watch other games and usually don't look at any analysis for a couple of days.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 07, 2019, 12:36:58 pm
Like it or not, the NFL is on the decline, and has been. It's still top dog but nowhere near where it was. People like myself are sick of getting fukked by cable and dish companies. I got rid of that sh!t years ago. Sling and the antenna. Cut my bill by 2/3. Hollywood's not where it used to be. At some point, they can't keep paying the big bucks hoping it will work out in the end. With all the head injury concerns, football will change. I'm still a big Bears fan, but not so much the NFL, if that makes any sense..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 07, 2019, 12:40:20 pm
I'll admit that I still get the online MLB package, but that's a far cry from the ripoff ticket.. If the NFL offered something like that I may do it, but they're too greedy..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on September 08, 2019, 06:20:32 am
Bears4Ever

I'm getting to where you are but not yet there. 

Fortunately for me after watching the recording of the GB loss early Friday morning I had to go to bed.   Normally after a loss I'm very irritable towards my family and the dog.   The anger is replaced by general sadness and depression which decreases throughout the week and generally gets replaced by  excitement while I start focusing on the upcoming game. 

It's really therapeutic to come here to share my grief and listen to the over reacted opinions that I also had a few hours after the game.

Should I be laying on a couch while I say all this?

That describes me exactly after a Bears loss!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 08, 2019, 06:40:26 am
Dallas:

You'll get there for sure :D

I lived for years with a hole in my basement paneling where I punched it after one of the (many) Wanny disaster games back before I moved to where I am now. I kept it there as a monument of my own stupidity and a reminder of how to not to act.

Age is sometimes wisdom (or maybe acceptance ?). But 'm too cynical to believe in any overall plan of any sort. Of course it may also have to do that I drink a whole lot less (although still a bit during the season). At least my liver thanks me :D

And this place is therapy (of a sort :D). I've been a member since the switch over from the Trib board days. I don't post much but when I do it is cathartic. I appreciate you guys and your fandom. Us crazies gotta stick together :D

Go Bears !

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 08, 2019, 07:32:39 am
Think of how many have left since the trib board.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 08, 2019, 10:27:16 am
It's nice to have when you don't live in the chicago area.
I'll see other Bear fans in public but the 30 something s rarely want to slow down what they're doing and have a conversation.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 08, 2019, 02:44:17 pm
Your asking that in game 1?

I'm asking that after more than 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 08, 2019, 02:48:48 pm
I get angry during the game and a day or two after, then it's 'yep, this is the @%$#$ Bears,here we go again' attitude. We've seen it so often over the last three or so decades we all should be used to it. My wife avoids me for the rest of the day because I'm hot, and then it's back to business as usual. I'm MUCH MUCH more animated after a loss to the Pack then I am with any other team. A game that's winnable should be won-period. To lose with inept offensive play time and again is pathetic. Tru either needs to get it figured out or we'll once again be on the hunt for the incredibly elusive franchise QB.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 08, 2019, 03:02:25 pm
I agree, losing to the pack makes it worse..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on September 08, 2019, 05:59:21 pm
The thing that drives me absolutely insane is when the refs decide the outcome of the game, usually with the Pack.  This time not so much so it didnt bug me too much.  BUT.... Nagys decision to not run the ball, that kind of hurt. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on September 09, 2019, 06:52:50 am
Funny to hear Al Michaels mention something about Rodgers' special treatment by the refs - and Collinsworth saying something like "oh, we can't say that..."

Then Nick Foles gets 2 big bodies pummel him with their full weight and no flag?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on September 09, 2019, 05:46:58 pm
Aaron Rodgers doesn’t get special treatment. He just knows how to beat the Bears.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 09, 2019, 10:28:26 pm
He does get special treatment from the refs
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on September 10, 2019, 08:22:44 am
All the superstar QBs get special treatment by the refs at times. They are the cash cow for the NFL. I didn’t notice Rodgers getting any special treatment during the Bears game. The Bears O just sucked and the play calling was atrocious. If I remember correctly Allen Robinson bailed Mitch out 2-3 times on great catches with the DB in his face or it could have looked worse.

He does get special treatment from the refs
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 10, 2019, 03:05:35 pm

All the superstar QBs get special treatment by the refs at times. They are the cash cow for the NFL. I didn’t notice Rodgers getting any special treatment during the Bears game. The Bears O just sucked and the play calling was atrocious. If I remember correctly Allen Robinson bailed Mitch out 2-3 times on great catches with the DB in his face or it could have looked worse.


I agree Rodgers didn't benefit from any special treatment from the ref.

That's kind of been my point about Trubisky.  He often times forced to make contested throws because the DBs were playing our wideouts tight.  Not too many throws to guys with cushions. 

Everybody on offense sucked.  Nagy got outcoached and couldn't make halftime adjustments.  Trubisky lost his cool.   The O-line couldn't handle a non-vanailla pass rush.   Receivers got little separation.  Running backs, weren't given many chances, but no one ripped off a 10 yard run.  TEs...do we have TEs?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 10, 2019, 03:41:17 pm
I have real concerns about Trubisky, but after rewatching parts of the game I see he was under pressure most plays and you can see he was trying to balance scanning the field with getting rid of the ball in time.
With the Packers using 6 DB's it's got to be pretty difficult to decide if a receiver is open or if you are missing a DB in decision making.
On a large number of plays he was looking and looking with the time he had not wanting to make a bad decision but having difficulty accounting for all the defenders.

Last year in those situations, (and in my understanding how you would counter a 6 DB defense), they would run Jordan Howard to move the chains until the defense made changes to stop the run, which then opened up pass opportunities.

The fact they had little run success made the situation worse.  For some reason Cohen had no carries.

Tru needs a good game Sunday no doubt.  Callahan has been out awhile with a bad foot and Fangio just said "maybe" when asked if he would play Sunday.  His replacement was taken advantage of.  I don't think Denver's defense is what it was 2-3 years ago.  Raiders threw short quick passes to tight ends to move the chains.  Most of their completions were under 10 yards to negate the pass rush.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 03:41:14 pm
Another terrible start. This team looks like crap right now. Put the fricking Online back to where it was last season already. The run blocking is atrocious and there's too much pressure coming through.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 03:43:22 pm
Horrid call and total BS!!!😡😡😡 Personal foul my rear!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 03:46:21 pm
Apparently you can't tackle RB's anymore?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on September 15, 2019, 03:48:39 pm
Defense bailed out the ref for one of the worst penalty (https://twitter.com/ftbeard_17/status/1173336919020732416) in history of the NFL
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 15, 2019, 03:59:53 pm
Shaheen makes his first play as a beat
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on September 15, 2019, 04:03:23 pm
Decent drive, something to build on.  Anyone else surprised Shaheen broke that tackle?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 04:13:11 pm
Well, finally a Mack sack, and some pressure from the D ends a drive. 6pts two games ain't gonna cut it. Need a good drive with a TD soon.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on September 15, 2019, 04:17:16 pm
OL is getting some push
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 04:17:32 pm
Come on Mitch!  He was wide open.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on September 15, 2019, 04:19:28 pm
I'd like to see less Mike Davis the rest of the game.

Nice boot Eddy
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 15, 2019, 04:21:12 pm
I'd like to see less Mike Davis the rest of the game.

Nice boot Eddy

But remember he fits the system........
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 04:23:07 pm
Need more than 3pts a drive. Tru missing wide open receivers ain't cutting it...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 04:37:48 pm
WTF?  Run it there.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 15, 2019, 04:47:11 pm
Hard to believe we ran the ball better under Fox and Loggains than the coach of the year
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on September 15, 2019, 05:16:41 pm
It sure would be nice to have something resembling competence on offense here.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 05:23:16 pm
TD BEARS!!!

That was a lot harder then it should have been.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 05:23:49 pm
That was all Montgomery!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 05:24:36 pm
Loving that Patterson signing right now.  He got it started.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 05:35:11 pm
WTF?  You can't hit the QB?  That was a terrible call.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 05:35:58 pm
He literally still had the ball in his hand.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on September 15, 2019, 05:35:58 pm
ok now i saw the 2nd worst penalty (https://twitter.com/JoRo_NFL/status/1173364953430011907) in NFL history
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 15, 2019, 05:40:16 pm
This next possession is very critical to this game
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on September 15, 2019, 05:53:54 pm
Bears defense looking winded
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 05:56:00 pm
FULLER!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 05:56:55 pm
I think he may have been robbed of the TD by the refs as well.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 05:57:42 pm
The O better get it done here.  Either a long drive to kill the time or score.

None of this 3 and out ****!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 06:05:01 pm
Our offense sucks so hard!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 15, 2019, 06:05:20 pm
Why are you not calling a play to the marker!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 15, 2019, 06:05:53 pm
Nagy blows.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 15, 2019, 06:06:53 pm
Nagys so afraid of mitch he won't give him a chance.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on September 15, 2019, 06:07:44 pm
I think he’s so afraid of another interception
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 15, 2019, 06:13:24 pm
Well yeah but might as well sit him if you're not going to let h play
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 06:19:56 pm
They're gonna get the fricking TD....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 06:20:21 pm
Fking Bears....they're gonna lose this....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 06:21:05 pm
Knee out of bounds?  I hope.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 06:22:58 pm
NO GOOD!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 06:23:15 pm
These refs suck azz!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 06:23:29 pm
Bears get a break, kicker misses it...and then they blow it.... ::)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 06:23:36 pm
Dumb azz!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 06:24:23 pm
Bears lose.....this season is going to be fking ugly....great fking job....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 06:24:56 pm
I'm beyond pissed....fk these clowns..... >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 15, 2019, 06:25:07 pm
Nagy is a historically awful coach.  I'm talking Abe Gibron.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 06:25:18 pm
I wasted three hours for this?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 06:25:57 pm
I said they'd have trouble...some laughed...laughing now??  >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 15, 2019, 06:26:54 pm
Soft coverage all day what gives
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 06:27:13 pm
So now the Broncos disintegrating....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 06:27:27 pm
Make up call when it doesn't matter anymore.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 06:29:34 pm
Think the Bears believed their own hype. 12men in the fking huddle? Are you KIDDING me?? Fking idiots....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 06:30:21 pm
This is game...let em have the second, there's a kick...no, it's over....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 06:31:15 pm
Watch Pineira miss it, lol....probably will
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 06:31:27 pm
Give Tru credit he was on top of calling time out.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 06:31:36 pm
BEARS WIN!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 06:31:53 pm
Are you fuckingkiddingme!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 06:32:01 pm
Unbelievable....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 06:32:23 pm
Ugliest most exciting game I have seen in quite some time.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 15, 2019, 06:32:30 pm
Lol a kicker saves their sorry asses
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 15, 2019, 06:32:37 pm
Fire that visor-wearing idiot anyway.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 06:33:28 pm
Well, all the looking for a kicker evidently worked out. Now they've got to get Trubusty on the right dmn track. This is going to be a bad season if he's not fixed soon.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on September 15, 2019, 06:33:47 pm
**** yes
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 06:34:08 pm
Honestly if it wasn't for the refs calling him down when he wasn't Fuller scored the winning TD.

This offense is terrible though.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 15, 2019, 06:34:42 pm
Yes, I’m laughing now...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on September 15, 2019, 06:37:59 pm
Eddy, Eddy, Eddy, Eddy!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 15, 2019, 06:38:30 pm
They need to take the handcuffs off Trubisky and let him play.
You don't win games on defense alone anymore, especially playing this soft zone they played today.
C'mon Pagano.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 15, 2019, 06:39:46 pm
The good news is the schedule gets a lot easier for the next 4 games. They "should" win 3 of the next 4.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on September 15, 2019, 06:41:34 pm
I think we found a kicker. Two 50+ today.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 06:42:13 pm
lol, Davey 2 1/2 shows up now.... :D ::)  Your azz would still be hiding if they had lost and they pulled this win out their azz and you know it....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on September 15, 2019, 06:42:55 pm
good god. c'mon guys, better next week ok? Glad for the win, but really now!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 15, 2019, 06:47:08 pm
I’m not posting in here while you’re in here posting nothing but negative bullshit. You are the Chris of the Bears board.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 06:49:44 pm
Don't care. Post it as I see it....don't like it, don't read it...pretty simple, huh...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 15, 2019, 06:55:18 pm
Hey Dave, go **** yourself.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 15, 2019, 06:57:10 pm
Pretty weird.

This past week Nagy says he threw too much complicated offensive concepts at Mitch this off season which slowed down his decision making and plays were coming in late against Green Bay, this week he would shorten the playbook.
We see both last week and this week when Mitch drops back and scans the field he's usually not seeing an open receiver.  I guess this week he was ordered to check it down right away.
With either philosophy there are putrid results from the passing game.  Isn't there something in the playbook that might result in open receivers?
Denver surely found theirs.
Nagy's going to have to take his lumps and successes with Trubisky whether this team goes anywhere or not.

BTW this win sure feels good.  How many losses have Bear fans witnessed in games like this.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on September 15, 2019, 07:02:04 pm
One thing that looks pretty clear is that Mitch is being told not to scramble...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 15, 2019, 07:06:16 pm
Eat another dick, Chris.

Oh, and **** off Sporty...or as your hypocrite ass says...fk off...

Jesus knows what you really mean...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 07:10:36 pm
Dave, cut back on the caffeine a bit.... :D
But yeah, you're right...I do let this stupid game get to me too much. I will try to do better.....no more 'fk' nonsense from me....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 15, 2019, 07:14:34 pm
Glad they won! Tough winning on the road, but that was one shaky performance.. I really thought they had lost, kudos to Mitch at the end, and kudos to the kicker.. Heck yeah!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 15, 2019, 07:15:05 pm
I'd eat your dad's but he clearly lacked one. You lying sack of ****.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 15, 2019, 07:15:20 pm
I’m struggling to understand why our best route running WR has a total of two targets in two games.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 15, 2019, 07:17:01 pm
I’m struggling to understand why our best route running WR has a total of two targets in two games.

#nagyblows
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 15, 2019, 07:18:02 pm
Never knew my dad...doesn’t faze me at all...

Not sure what I lied about...perhaps you’re flustered a bit. I realize it has been a quiet weekend for you, what with the Cubs killing it offensively and the Bears winning...but I should have known you were lurking just in case the Bears happened to lose...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 15, 2019, 07:19:06 pm
Most of the Cubs board members provide absolutely nothing. Many add their own "negative" comments or never post. Some like Jack Birdbrain do nothing but post vicious attacks on others. But, hey, let's go to another board to **** all over one of the loyal members who has been around 20 years with 20K posts including game updates, news, and all prospect notes and boxscores.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 15, 2019, 07:21:37 pm
If you would just own what you are and what you do, no one would ever say anything else negative about you...just own it...it’s been long enough. Just own it...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 15, 2019, 07:22:27 pm
And doesn't even realize how **** stupid he and some of the other lemmings are with the not a Cubs fan nonsense.

Folks, if you get tired of your team underachiever or finding ways to lose you will be granted non-fan status by the likes of Dave23. That's just how much of a fan he is.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 15, 2019, 07:23:41 pm
Good God take your juvenile crap to messaging and leave it off here.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 15, 2019, 07:24:41 pm
Just own it...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 15, 2019, 07:26:05 pm
Sure. I'm one of the most loyal fans. Been on the board going back to the Trib days. Probably have 40K posts between the three incarnations. The actual intelligent fans on the site--Craig, Weatherguy when he was there--knew what I provided. But then, they weren't reactionary whiners.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 15, 2019, 07:30:29 pm
They aren’t Debbie Downer’s either.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 15, 2019, 07:31:12 pm
You really only pay attention to the posts you want to, apparently.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 15, 2019, 07:32:24 pm
Got an issue with #2 pick Trubisky and his 90 yards passing? Well, you aren't a Bears fan then. That's how that works.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 15, 2019, 07:36:24 pm
I read all the posts.

I don’t doubt that you are a Cubs fan. No one else would post prospect updates religiously as you do, and I have thanked you for that more than once.

Answer one question for me...I would wager that greater than 80% of your posts in the Today’s Game topic on the Cubs board are negative.

Would you agree with that, or disagree?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 07:36:28 pm
What the 'bacon'?? Didn't know this was even being tracked....


Cordarrelle Patterson zooms to 22.23 mph, fastest play by a ball carrier in two years
12:37 PM ET
Jeff Dickerson
ESPN Staff Writer

DENVER -- The Chicago Bears signed veteran Cordarrelle Patterson because he's a triple threat.

Patterson has impacted games as a wide receiver, running back and kickoff returner over the course of a seven-year NFL career.

On Sunday, Patterson breathed life into an otherwise listless Bears offense when he lined up in the backfield, took a simple toss left, and galloped 46 yards deep into Denver territory.

Patterson reached 22.23 mph on the run, the fastest speed reached by a ball carrier over the past two seasons, according to NFL Next Gen stats.

.@ceeflashpee84 WAS HUSTLIN'!

46-yard pick up. #CHIvsDEN pic.twitter.com/CgpQwPUUGO

— Chicago Bears (@ChicagoBears) September 15, 2019
Bears RB/WR Cordarrelle Patterson reached 22.23 MPH on this 46-yard run, the fastest speed reached by a ball carrier over the last two seasons.#CHIvsDEN | #Bears100 pic.twitter.com/FwJKxzk29W

— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) September 15, 2019
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on September 15, 2019, 07:59:08 pm
I expect keeping it close to the vest today was to keep Sir Vonne and Cubby from planting Mitch in the dirt all afternoon.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 15, 2019, 08:12:06 pm
That's the one thing the offense did well.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on September 15, 2019, 08:21:20 pm
0-2 is a death sentence for a team trying to get back to the playoffs and Denver is virtually undefeated at home in weeks 1 and 2 over the last decade or so.  A conservative gameplan was always in play.  That overthrow miss to Gabriel was very disappointing, but the OL did play better at least.

Back to the drawing board for the passing game, but better off a win.  Skrine owes Eddy the most expensive steak meal in Chicago and then some.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on September 15, 2019, 08:25:55 pm
Good win.  Definitely wasn't pretty, but the bears came through in one of the hardest places to win in the NFL. 

Some random thoughts I had:
1.  The WRs  aren't as good as we thought.  I think we have a deep collection of mediocre.

2.  The D gassed because they were awful on 3rd and 4th down in the 2nd half.  Mainly due to poor tackling and the cushion our dbs give the WRs. 

3.  Sick thought I had during the game was imagining trestman having an elite D year one like Nagy had.  That goober might still be here.  Nagys shine is getting dimmer every game.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 15, 2019, 08:26:10 pm
Fire Nagy and hire a new head coach by lottery.

#anyonebutvisorboy
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 15, 2019, 08:32:09 pm
Piniero 10, Trubisky 6 and he didnt score the 6. UGH! A win is a win, I'll take it. We sure didnt deserve it. Talk about winning ugly? I fully comprehend the pain. One thing I should mention in defense,

like the Miami game last year where the heat caused us problems, the altitude played a factor today.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 15, 2019, 08:57:32 pm

As I've said after the Packer game the Bears receivers get no respect.  There's no cushion - everything tight.

And with 2 of our top 4 receivers gimpy (Anthony Miller and Burton), nothing is going to change against teams with a decent pass rush and/or decent DBs.

Bears avoided the middle of the field until the very end and they got to lead the league in sideways passes at the LOS. 

This is not an NFL offense.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 15, 2019, 09:02:52 pm
Next couple of weeks we see defenses that aren't so familiar with our offense.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 15, 2019, 09:05:39 pm
Opposing defenses will play tight man until Trubisky shows he can beat it consistently. He tends to be errant in his accuracy so they're expecting to get a pick or three.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Jack Birdbath on September 15, 2019, 09:08:37 pm
Most of the Cubs board members provide absolutely nothing. Many add their own "negative" comments or never post. Some like Jack Birdbrain do nothing but post vicious attacks on others. But, hey, let's go to another board to **** all over one of the loyal members who has been around 20 years with 20K posts including game updates, news, and all prospect notes and boxscores.

That wasn’t very nice. You have issues.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 16, 2019, 06:37:50 am
Well.... um... a win is a win in the stats (and it is nice to finally have a kicker) but it still feels dirty somehow,  not because of the officiating (it did suck for both teams) but the fact that this Offense is would have to improve to become even terrible.....

IMHO I think Nagy has too many shiny toys to play with. He needs to concentrate on 2-3 offensive players (Robinson, Montgomery and maybe Burton) as primary and build off of that instead of just throwing **** at the wall and seeing what sticks. Right now he an ADD offensive coach.....

Glad for the win, but boy its going to be a long nail-biting season with this scatter-brain offense....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on September 16, 2019, 06:43:46 am
What concerned me the most was the heart of this team failed to deliver when needed.  We were up by a TD late and all they had to do was stop Denver from scoring and they couldn't.  If you want to be the best Defense in the league you can not let Denver march down the field and score a TD late.  They were 62 yards away with only 2:48 to go and couldn't stop them.  They had them in a 4th and 10 and couldn't stop them.  They had them in a 4th and 3 and couldn't stop them.

If you want to tout the Defense then they need to stand up when needed.  They didn't.  They failed.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on September 16, 2019, 07:06:37 am
You're right.  They did fail.  And if you ask everyone on defense if they should have stopped them on the 4th downs, they would own it and say that they should have.

But the altitude and temperature close to 90 is a powerful 12th man on offense for Denver and one of the main reasons why the Broncos are 22-2 in Week 1 or Week 2 home games since 1999.  Before yesterday, they have not lost a week 2 home game in 40 years.

And so, I am not concerned about the defense yet.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on September 16, 2019, 08:08:21 am
Would you rather watch a 43-0 blowout - or a 16-14 nail-biter as the clock hits 00.00?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on September 16, 2019, 08:29:16 am
That pass to the wide open Gabriel, where Mitch had a clean pocket is what concerns me most.  He did that a bunch last year, and they said it was his mechanics.  Looks like maybe he is reverting to some of his old bad habits again?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on September 16, 2019, 08:45:01 am
But the last pass to AROB was a beautiful thing - shuffle and fire
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on September 16, 2019, 09:16:15 am
The Redskins are (1-16) at home on MNF since 1998.  Cakewalk :-)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 16, 2019, 09:35:36 am
What concerned me the most was the heart of this team failed to deliver when needed.  We were up by a TD late and all they had to do was stop Denver from scoring and they couldn't.  If you want to be the best Defense in the league you can not let Denver march down the field and score a TD late.  They were 62 yards away with only 2:48 to go and couldn't stop them.  They had them in a 4th and 10 and couldn't stop them.  They had them in a 4th and 3 and couldn't stop them.

If you want to tout the Defense then they need to stand up when needed.  They didn't.  They failed.

Not to pile on, but you are dead wrong.  Bears did stop one 4Q 84 yard drive with the pick (which I can't believe the announcers didn't show a closer look at whether Fuller went out of bounds).  But after that what did the offense do, run 5 plays then punt?  They were gassed and Flacco, although a statue, is a very accurate QB.  I couldn't believe he was able to get off throws with guys on him.

I noticed when they blitzed Skrine for the 4th time in a row he had a clear shot to Flacco - but Pagano used his second timeout.

So what concerns me is the offense...the passing game is fukked up.  The O-line gave up some pressure but no sacks - but Leno especially seems to be struggling this year.  Are Miller and Burton still hurt?  They are not a part of the offense like they were last year.  And Cohen isn't being utilized.  Shaheen and Braunecker aren't scaring anybody.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on September 16, 2019, 10:27:14 am
We might could borrow a few pages from the Ravens. Lamar Jackson is looking pretty good.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on September 16, 2019, 10:41:40 am
I guess I can quit whining about a kicker, coupla 50 yarders+ even if it was a mile up. The Bear ran for a buck fity, where's the points? Before that last pass Mitch had less than a 100 yards
for the WHOLE GAME.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 16, 2019, 10:45:05 am
The Redskins are (1-16) at home on MNF since 1998.  Cakewalk :-)

That sounds good, but past history of Bears/Redskins doesnt make this a yawner. I am not ready to put this game in the win column till its over.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 16, 2019, 11:09:21 am

This is the NFL - you never put any game in the win column before its played!   With the way the Bears offense is playing right now I don't see them being favorites in many road games this season.

Back to the offense.  Yes, the Bears ran for over 150 but about 50 of that was from Patterson on the one play that the Bears scored their only touchdown (barely).  According to some mph stats - Patterson is the fastest running back in the NFL. 

Where's the quick slants and the crossing patterns?  Bears seem to avoid the middle of the field and nibble on the edges near the LOS. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on September 16, 2019, 11:18:07 am
We can only hope Mitch get better week by week....and Nagy opens up the offense.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on September 16, 2019, 12:22:10 pm
Anybody nicked up bad? I saw that Burton was playing, but looked stiff as hell even on tv. Mitch ain't no Lamar, but I do think the coaches should let him take off more. The team can't rely
on constant defensive turnovers to save the bacon, which that fuller one did.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: joki13 on September 16, 2019, 12:51:53 pm
 I can only hope that part of Trubisky's regression is caused by a lack of playing time in the preseason. I understood the philosophy,but,man those game reps are kinda important. I agree that Mitch needs to run the ball more where he can buy time or even go for it.Opens up the offense completely!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on September 16, 2019, 02:08:11 pm
Part of Trubiusky's problem is he was facing VIC FANGIO - who knows how to make Mitch uncomfortable. No one knows how to stop the Bears O better than Fangio.

No sacks for the Broncos and no turnovers - HUGE pluses.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on September 16, 2019, 02:25:22 pm
Anybody nicked up bad? I saw that Burton was playing, but looked stiff as hell even on tv. Mitch ain't no Lamar, but I do think the coaches should let him take off more. The team can't rely
on constant defensive turnovers to save the bacon, which that fuller one did.

Nicols with the wrist (https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/matt-nagy-doesnt-expect-bears-dt-bilal-nichols-land-ir-wrist-injury) pending MRI, hopefully no IR
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 16, 2019, 06:01:30 pm
Quote
The Redskins are (1-16) at home on MNF since 1998.  Cakewalk :-)

And Denver was 17-1 in home openers the last 18 games. That being said, I think the Bears take the Skins. But that offense is offensive....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 18, 2019, 10:17:45 am
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/17/chicago-bears-mitchell-trubisky-matt-nagy-offense-week-2/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 18, 2019, 12:28:05 pm

I am tired of watching other team's highlights of receivers running down the field wide open,with no DB in the picture, catching 50 yard bombs. 

With the Bears a pass over 10 yards to a WR is major accomplishment.  And often times even those are into a tight window.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 18, 2019, 12:57:19 pm
Hub Arkush said this morning one ok f his biggest disappointment is the receivers not getting separation
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 18, 2019, 01:56:43 pm

You see it every pass play.  The DBs crowding our receivers running step for step with them.  No cushion.

I really like Alan Robinson.  He's a very good possession receiver.  Great hands, great body control, but he's maybe a 4.6 guy.  Our speed receiver Taylor Gabriel just isn't producing.  10 yards a catch last year and only 2 scores on his 67 catches.  He's extremely fast but at 5-7 he doesn't have much of a catch radius.  This year 3 catches.  That's ridiculous for a starting receiver in the NFL today.  Not all his fault but that needs to improve.

There's something wrong with Anthony Miller that's not being shared (but I'm sure our opponents know).   He needs to get healthy or Bears need to start targeting Wims.  Wims has dominated in PS the last 2 years.  He's huge and can win those 50/50 balls and his speed is pretty good.

That's why I was all excited about the two FAs signed this offseason named named Hall - they were fast guys, but for whatever reason weren't good receivers and got cut.

Maybe the Bears need to face some really bad corners - cuz the ones we've seen so far have been shutting them down.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on September 18, 2019, 03:18:22 pm
Green Bay played a dime the whole time and it shut our receivers down completely. We have no running game so that was super smart.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on September 18, 2019, 03:22:43 pm
I watched highlights of Lamar jackson today on NFLN.  For what it is worth, it was against the Dolphins.  The Dolphins did a real soft rush where they waited for him to run.  I would say he had an easy unharassed 5 - 6 seconds per throw.  Of course you are going to find people... and they were wide open.  Allen Robinson, middle of the field for 25, open
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on September 18, 2019, 03:32:28 pm
After listening to that depressing Lombardi interview, I am thinking that now that the defenses the next few weeks (Queens notwithstanding) are not as tough, I want to see Mitch run more to throw or chew up some yards.  That is what he does best and when he is the most accurate.  The Bears do not have the time to develop him as a pocket passer and will have to trust Mitch not get himself hurt when he rushes.  But maybe if he gains some confidence on the run or moving up away from the pass rush completing passes to the WRs like the last play of the game, maybe his game in the pocket will improve.  just grasping straws here...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 18, 2019, 03:41:57 pm
Not sure what Lombardi interview you're talking about but he has hated Trubisky from the beginning.  Trubisky seems at his best when the game is in his hands.  Let him run to the point the defense has to dedicate a spy
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on September 18, 2019, 04:40:37 pm
Yeah I know Filene's Basement and all that.  What Nagy needs to do now is find a way for Mitch to use his legs even though teams are setting the edge to prevent the edge runs and force him to "play QB."  Interior blocking is essential to allow Mitch to buy time in the pocket by side stepping or moving up in the pocket and complete some passes.  Once that happens then opportunities will open up for Mitch to run or throw on the run.  Maybe more play action will be called based on Nagy's willingness to lean on the run for whole drives.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 18, 2019, 11:55:39 pm
They've shown a few times now where our recievers are getting open but Trubisky ain't seeing them or he's late with the ball and the defender has closed. This isn't just the recievers fault...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on September 22, 2019, 12:09:31 pm
Pack takes early lead on Rodger's 40-yd TD pass.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: joki13 on September 22, 2019, 12:56:55 pm
 davebear makes a good point. Trubisky and the offense were more dangerous when Mitch would run the ball more freely. That's the one aspect defenses have a hard time defending. Opens up other options. Nagy run Trubisky. Designed runs and run options,keep the defense on their heels. Just don't run like Jim McMahon with reckless abandon. That'll shorten your career although it's admirable. I loved Jim's competitiveness!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 22, 2019, 01:56:20 pm
Pack takes early lead on Rodger's 40-yd TD pass.
That Aaron Rodger is something else...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 06:15:21 pm
Sounds like there are going to be quite a few Bears fans there.

WML, did you go to the game?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 23, 2019, 06:16:43 pm
What!!!!! Bobby Massey inactive
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 23, 2019, 06:44:35 pm
Redskins 31, Bears 10?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on September 23, 2019, 06:52:35 pm
 Nope. Asked the wife if she wanted to go. She’s a dead skins fan. She said she would rather watch it at home and I agreed. FedEx field is a **** dump.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 07:09:31 pm
That doesn't look good at all.  Peneiro looks like his kicking knee is very sore.  Looks like we will be going for two all night and FG's are pretty much out of the question.

Why is he even active?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 07:10:44 pm
Guessing O'Donnell will be doing kick offs.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 23, 2019, 07:25:42 pm
Passing sideways gets pretty annoying to watch
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 07:28:52 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 07:30:15 pm
Looks like he can kick XP.  Probably nothing but short FG though.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 07:33:25 pm
Great start and the D scores. Gotta get Tru on track. 👍👍👍
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 23, 2019, 07:38:08 pm
Gotta get Tru on track. 👍👍👍

Not going to happen with Nagy at the helm.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 07:42:13 pm
Our O-line sucks!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 07:43:19 pm
They should have played in pre-season.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 23, 2019, 07:44:31 pm
Whose decision was it not to?  VisorBoy's.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 07:49:54 pm
WTF is with all the hands to the face?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 07:50:47 pm
meh.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 23, 2019, 07:53:41 pm
The worst coached Bears team of my lifetime.  Nagy must go.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on September 23, 2019, 07:54:05 pm
Bears killing themselves with penalties
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 07:54:57 pm
Are we up to like 10 penalties against the Bears already? 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 07:57:18 pm
C'mon D! They're gonna let them back in it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 07:59:29 pm
Love the blitzing!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 07:59:44 pm
Like sprinkles on a doughnut!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:00:01 pm
NO GOOD!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:01:30 pm
Great sack by Trevathan lol. Psyche!😆
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on September 23, 2019, 08:01:49 pm
I thought there was a law that every kick against the Bears has to be good.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 23, 2019, 08:04:21 pm
Will Trubisky throw a touchdown this season? Discuss.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:05:05 pm
Offense still in a funk. 🙄
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:08:07 pm
This is last years offense. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:09:54 pm
They put the training wheels back on and it appears to be working.  Mitch just has to settle in.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:10:17 pm
Trubucket, what the heck! This guy is horribly inaccurate!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on September 23, 2019, 08:11:43 pm
That was a stupid call. On 2nd and 2, you line up in a run formation and send the smallest guy on the field up the gut.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:12:22 pm
Like the announcer, he's right. Don't run Cohen up the gut there! The Online ain't blocking worth jack so put a bigger guy in there.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:13:41 pm
TD BEARS!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 23, 2019, 08:13:51 pm
Wut
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on September 23, 2019, 08:13:54 pm
That looked easy enough
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:14:50 pm
That was the world's easiest TD lol. 👍👍👍
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:15:33 pm
Reduced game plan is the way to go with Mitch.  He will settle in and light it up as his confidence grows.  That was a long morale killing drive there for the Skins D.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:17:21 pm
I think the worry isn't his confidence but his inaccuracy. He needs to go out with a few of his receivers and practice a LOT hitting them in stride and down field.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on September 23, 2019, 08:17:49 pm
Nice long drive to rest the defense
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:19:34 pm
BEARS BALL!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:20:54 pm
I was just going to say I feel for Keenum with the Bears with a lead. Gonna be a long night for him 👍
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:21:50 pm
About to be 21-0.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:22:01 pm
TD BEARS!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:24:44 pm
Keenum, you better have your ballistic undies on. Cause, dang. 😆
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:24:51 pm
I just hope they don't put their back up in.  Back ups always kill us.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:27:01 pm
FULLER!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:27:02 pm
Don't make the kicker run and get the guy out of bounds when he's hurting already.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 23, 2019, 08:27:20 pm
Well, whatever problems the Bears face this season we can all be grateful they aren't the Redskins. Yeesh.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:28:29 pm
What a int!!!! My game is a bit delayed on Slingtv
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:29:45 pm
First down!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:30:49 pm
I'd love to see them hit a big throw downfield. They need to try at some point
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 23, 2019, 08:32:15 pm
That's v why Fuller likes to play off the ball so he can break back on the pass
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:32:24 pm
Not sure I agree with that run call. Patterson isn't a up the middle guy. He needs to get to the outside where his speed makes the difference.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:37:58 pm
I just don't get his inaccuracy. Why he keeps overthrowing those short routes. Take a breath step in to the throw.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:38:55 pm
Challenge.  One foot down other hit the pylon.

TD?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:39:32 pm
I think that is a TD.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 23, 2019, 08:39:55 pm
Mitch must lead the league in yards out of bounds.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:40:13 pm
That's a TD. His left foot is hitting the pylon too
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:41:25 pm
28-0 Bears!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:42:22 pm
Definitely a breakout game. 28pts in the half. 28 zip 👍👍👍
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 23, 2019, 08:44:40 pm
Mitch is an extremely talented QB with his head up his arse.

If they can break out of it Bears will be contenders
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:49:28 pm
28-3 Bears at the half!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 08:49:46 pm
Rrrrr! 😡 Let them get a FG.😡
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 08:53:09 pm
WML, how is the wife doing?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 23, 2019, 09:00:39 pm

I wish they'd just call the game now.   Nothing good can happen in the 2nd half.

Gabriel has shut me up.  2 TDs in 2018 and now 3 in one half!

I'd like to see them work on the run game in the 2nd half but not ultra conservative.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 09:06:37 pm
YES!!  Another pick by Dix!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 23, 2019, 09:08:14 pm
Hicks forced the bad throw
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 09:10:10 pm
Hate that they are going into a shell. 

Missed FG.  You know he is gimpy. 

Stupid. 

Keep scoring TD's.  Mitch needs the work and so does everyone else. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 09:10:30 pm
Run and PA passes should be the calls.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 09:11:34 pm
I'd like to see Tru get more downfield attempts. He needs more reps to get on track.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 23, 2019, 09:20:11 pm
That TD is on Nagy.  Should have punted last possession and pinned them deep instead of having your injured placekicker attempt a 44 yard field goal.

Horrible coaching by the NFL's worst.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 23, 2019, 09:20:31 pm
Redskins D will play it tighter now - nothing to lose and they know the Bears will be in conservative kill the clock mode.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 09:21:10 pm
JeffH did Nagy **** your wife?

Your hatred for him is off the charts.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 23, 2019, 09:22:42 pm
I don't hate Nagy.  He's just a bad football coach.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 09:30:42 pm
That was defensive holding.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 09:31:43 pm
Another bad throw by Tru. At the endzone no less.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 23, 2019, 09:32:13 pm
Bad throw by Mitch.  Worse play call by Nagy.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 23, 2019, 09:38:55 pm

Nothing wrong with the call - the play was there with a deeper ball.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 09:46:27 pm
Bears need to score here to keep this from getting too close.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 09:50:41 pm
If the Bears lose this game I will join the JeffH I hate Nagy bandwagon.

Just saying.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on September 23, 2019, 09:51:10 pm
Wheels coming off? Very bearish
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 09:51:28 pm
Why on Earth are they going deep on a 3rd and short?? Get the first down! Stupid play calling. D has to stop them here
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 09:56:34 pm
WTH Bears?!??
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 09:58:59 pm
Bears ball!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 23, 2019, 10:00:35 pm
Why on Earth are they going deep on a 3rd and short?? Get the first down! Stupid play calling. D has to stop them here

Unbelievable play call - you need the first down not the touchdown.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 10:00:48 pm
They needed that. Now quit with the ignorant play calls and wind that clock down!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 10:01:23 pm
Like I said run and PA passes.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on September 23, 2019, 10:01:52 pm
No Howard. Bears could really use him about now
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 23, 2019, 10:02:19 pm
We need a few first downs....geesh.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 10:02:59 pm
"Unbelievable play call - you need the first down not the touchdown."
Wasn't anywhere near a TD. They simply needed a first to keep the chains and the clock moving.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 10:09:15 pm
Montgomery is an improvement over Howard.  Especially since he is just a rookie.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 23, 2019, 10:11:02 pm
Keep a drive going, get the first down, eat the clock, give the D a break. Losing Gabrielle and Hicks sucks. Hope they'll be ok.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 10:12:40 pm
kicker is gimpy.  Go for it on a PA pass.

Should seal the game.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 10:14:34 pm
Or nail the FG that works also.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 23, 2019, 10:41:53 pm

ESPN talking heads are criticizing Trubisky's game. 

He was awful tonight.  6 incomplete passes....1 pick.

BTW he did complete 80% of his passes with a 116 rating. 

I'll take it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 23, 2019, 10:44:05 pm
It was solid, but still frustrating...missing badly on wide open receivers and zeroing in on one target most plays...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 23, 2019, 10:50:53 pm
The guy bitching about him was a Redskins fan.  The other guy I have no clue who he is.

Could Trubisky do better?  Absolutely but he did pretty well.

Am I still concerned about the offense?  Yes.  Am I feeling better about it and Trubisky? Yes.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on September 23, 2019, 10:59:19 pm
Ha Ha
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 23, 2019, 11:01:17 pm
Well a win is a win. Offense didnt look good at all. Yeah we scored 31 pts, I know. And Sunday we face the Queens. We better beat them at home, but we havent won at home this year.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on September 23, 2019, 11:02:15 pm
Dome team on the road - we  have a great chance.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 23, 2019, 11:04:41 pm
Nope we are at home.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on September 23, 2019, 11:07:27 pm
That's what I said ....we are playing a DOME team that is on the road.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on September 23, 2019, 11:09:45 pm
Bears have the toughest remaining schedule by far of any team in the league: .692 opponents win%.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 23, 2019, 11:20:25 pm
Definitely a step forward for Mitch and the offense but still very sloppy.
Finally Nagy was able to scheme some open receivers but it's still alarming how many Mitch either didn't throw to or missed.

Once he under threw Robinson in the end zone it was obvious to me there's a confidence issue.  You tend to short arm the throw or over compensate and throw too long when you're spooked.
We'll see if time takes care of that.

Our run game is still pathetic.  I think Trubisky would be somewhat better if they were getting 5 yards on first down instead of two.  Long is hurt and we had the rookie Lukas for Massie.  Lucas overall played surprisingly well.
Cohen's gotten nothing so far this year.

Pagano is going to give me a heart attack with his 4th quarter defenses but I guess you can't argue with the results.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on September 24, 2019, 12:32:15 am
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WML, how is the wife doing?

She said I didn’t have to be such an ass when we scored the pick six. It went downhill from there. :)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on September 24, 2019, 05:02:17 am
A win is a win.  However that Redskins team is bad, really bad.  Not sure I am feeling real great about the Bears this year.  We absolutely have a solid D, but our OL and QB are bad.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on September 24, 2019, 07:01:06 am
For a safety who has a built a reputation of getting picks, I am shocked that was Ha Ha's first defensive TD since "little league" pee wee.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 24, 2019, 09:34:52 am
"Definitely a step forward for Mitch and the offense but still very sloppy."

I disagree. If you want to call a step a step it would have to be baby's first step which is fragile and trepidacious. If it werent for the defensive turnovers we wouldnt have won. Thats not what I call a step forward. Mitch wasnt Kalil Mack. And if it doesnt improve to last years level of play by Sunday they will regress to 0-2 at home which isnt going to thrill the home fan base.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on September 24, 2019, 10:14:02 am
That was/is a bad Washington football team. qb still needs to run more. that Patterson guy in the backfield aint howard. Its football. clever only goes so far, you still gotta smash the other guy
more than he smashes you. Redskins shouldn't ever been in that game. If the bear doesn't start running better gonna lose more than win I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 24, 2019, 10:23:52 am
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/23/bears-vs-redskins-3-causes-for-concern-in-week-3-matchup/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on September 24, 2019, 10:48:07 am
I fell asleep during halftime.... I want to see on occasion a power I with Montgomery back there and just smash the ball.  They tried it with Patterson. We saw Mitch miss on a simple screen. It seems the receivers rarely made yac because they had to stop and make a leap to catch the ball or dig it out of the dirt a lot.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 24, 2019, 11:35:04 am
The one good play from Montgomery was when he tried to run up the middle, saw the hole gone and split outside for 25 yards.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 24, 2019, 02:12:47 pm
the LeVeon run...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 24, 2019, 04:00:28 pm

Bears needs to get Montgomery at least 20 touches per game.  He's got that leverage thing going on when contact is initiated.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davep on September 24, 2019, 04:09:17 pm
Montgomery has been impressive, even though the line has yet to open barely a single hole for him.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 24, 2019, 08:01:34 pm
That is the problem. No holes from the Oline. And having the ORT out sure didnt help. Oline not playing as a unit yet. No reps during the preseason.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 24, 2019, 08:10:40 pm
According to Brad Bigg's article Massie had a Vertigo episode a few days ago.

I didn't see if there was any presser today but people I know have taken several months of medication to recover.

Gabriel certainly won't play next game with a concussion on a short week.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 25, 2019, 06:24:34 am
It seems that the Bears cannot have and keep nice things on the field for some reason :D

Instead of Patterson on that I formation thingy Nagy uses he should have Montgomery. Imagine what that extra blocker could do for the kid (he wouldn't keep getting hit at or behind the LOS).....

Nagy still is an ADD coach with regards to which folks are on the field in relation to the play calling. He seems to trying to be too cute fitting square-ish pegs into round holes. As such Nagy watch isn't over yet.....

That said, a win (of any sort) versus the Vikings would go a long way.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 25, 2019, 11:51:52 am
To me it looks like a win against the Queens Sunday would parallel a miracle.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on September 25, 2019, 11:53:59 am
Cousin can't handle our D. We will win in a close one.

Cousin only wins when he has time ion the pocket. I am guessing he does not finish this game. We have been on the road for TWO games, BOTH WINS - I am guessing the D will be very fired up for the home crowd.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on September 25, 2019, 12:47:58 pm

Bears defense needs more than being fired up when the 4th quarter rolls around.  They need healthy players and contributions from their backups.

But mostly they need an offense to put up points, especially when given good field position after turnovers.  They also need an offense that can keep the defense off the field - control time of possession.

The defense has been compromised in the 4th quarter of the last 2 games.  Offense put up 24 points with only 3 in the 2nd half.  That's not enough when you get  5 turnovers.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on September 26, 2019, 05:41:29 am
To me it looks like a win against the Queens Sunday would parallel a miracle.

That's not really wishful thinking...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on September 26, 2019, 06:09:51 am
I keep thinking about this... unless maybe Nagy was trying to set something up for later. I mean right now you cannot assume anything based on personnel. If you think about it, a guy that is 6’2” 238 that runs a 4.4 forty, he can be used in a lot of ways. I can’t figure out why he hasn’t done more in the league.

......Instead of Patterson on that I formation thingy Nagy uses he should have Montgomery. Imagine what that extra blocker could do for the kid (he wouldn't keep getting hit at or behind the LOS).....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 26, 2019, 07:35:38 am
Nagy has to stop trying to be too smart and just use the best players at their best positions, if for nothing else than to get a little continuity going in this offense.

I think that would go a long way to getting this offense to look at least average.....

Can't afford to go 0-2 in the Division (and at home !)

Go Bears !
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 26, 2019, 07:58:51 am
That's not really wishful thinking...

Its the reality side of me
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on September 26, 2019, 09:11:09 am
I agree, I feel if you have a base set with Robinson, Miller, Gabriel, Burton and Montgomery, you have enough weapons there to score on most teams. No need to get cute all the time. Mix in a little Cohen and Patterson when you need more speed and maybe add some Wims when you need more size.


Nagy has to stop trying to be too smart and just use the best players at their best positions, if for nothing else than to get a little continuity going in this offense.
..,,,
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 26, 2019, 12:00:25 pm
Does anyone watch the games on Hulu?

My wife wants to cancel the "ticket" and use Hulu?  I'm skeptical whether or not they show all of the Bears games.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on September 26, 2019, 12:20:01 pm
I'm skeptical as well. Let us know what you find out..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: method on September 26, 2019, 12:26:39 pm
Google, Reddit NFL streams.

ABout 30 min before the games start that link will populate with game links for online vendors.

Use the one from Bilassports or Buffstreams. high quality, make sure you use ad blocker as well. Btw, this works for all sports Reddit MLB streams... reddit NFL streams... etc
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 26, 2019, 12:40:42 pm
Google, Reddit NFL streams.

ABout 30 min before the games start that link will populate with game links for online vendors.

Use the one from Bilassports or Buffstreams. high quality, make sure you use ad blocker as well. Btw, this works for all sports Reddit MLB streams... reddit NFL streams... etc

thanks
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on September 26, 2019, 12:45:29 pm
Just finished watching the game.  Interesting in the 2nd quarter that Kwaitkowski and Irving were playing a bunch.  Seems when those guys get in to give others a rest our D gets soft. 

Mitch missing wide open WRs again still makes me sad.  Glad for the win, dont have confidence we can score on the Vikes D, even at home.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 26, 2019, 12:52:47 pm
Just finished watching the game.  Interesting in the 2nd quarter that Kwaitkowski and Irving were playing a bunch.  Seems when those guys get in to give others a rest our D gets soft. 

Mitch missing wide open WRs again still makes me sad.  Glad for the win, dont have confidence we can score on the Vikes D, even at home.

And Lynch played a lot with Irving.  He had offsides on consecutive plays.

You would think the Bears could do as well as when they played the Vikings at home last year.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 26, 2019, 02:48:52 pm
The Defense gives us a chance in every single game, but even they won't be able to hold up if the O isn't moving the ball and allowing them some rest on the bench...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davep on September 26, 2019, 09:44:31 pm
Does anyone watch the games on Hulu?

My wife wants to cancel the "ticket" and use Hulu?  I'm skeptical whether or not they show all of the Bears games.

Where do you live?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 27, 2019, 12:22:21 am
Where do you live?

California
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 27, 2019, 06:44:03 am
SlingTV and Redzone for me- goes well with my Rokus.

Watch Redzone all day, then later (depending on night game) the full Bear game with NFL Gamepass....

As an aside, if I'm pressed for time (or the Bears lose :D) they post the condensed game (each snap) by the next day so I can watch it in 30 mins or so.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davep on September 27, 2019, 10:42:31 am
California

It isn't free, but the NFL.Com TV works well.  Unlike MLB.Com, you can't watch the game live, but must wait until the game has been over for at least an hour.  But it is just as easy to watch the game her in Florida on Sunday evening rather than Sunday afternoon.  As long as you haven't heard the score, it really makes no difference.  And they cut out all the damb commercials.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on September 27, 2019, 10:43:53 am
Can you use this out of the country?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 27, 2019, 10:49:21 am
Thanks for the ideas.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on September 27, 2019, 11:00:54 am
The best thing about Gamepass is the all 22.  And yeah you can use outside the US, but only where you purchased it (https://support.nflgamepass.com/hc/en-gb/articles/360004691153-Where-is-NFL-Game-Pass-available-).
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on September 27, 2019, 12:21:07 pm
Cool - going to be out of the country a couple time is the next three months.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on September 29, 2019, 09:32:19 am
Close game today but we come out with the win.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on September 29, 2019, 02:08:24 pm
Roquan (personal), Long, Gabriel, and Hicks all OUT
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 02:23:18 pm
I don't see us winning with all those guys out.  They will be able to run on us.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davep on September 29, 2019, 02:44:52 pm
I agree.  Hicks and Smith are extremely important to this defense.  Any word on why Roquan is out?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 29, 2019, 03:33:13 pm
We're screwed
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 03:38:10 pm
Daniel is looking pretty good so far.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 29, 2019, 03:40:15 pm
Anyone explain that throw? What was he thinking there??
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 03:43:15 pm
TD BEARS!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 29, 2019, 03:43:58 pm
Did I miss something? Didnt' see the start of the game. Did Tru get hurt???
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 03:44:35 pm
Yes hurt his left shoulder.  Looked bad.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 03:45:08 pm
He is in the locker room.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 29, 2019, 03:46:31 pm
Looks like a separated shoulder.  At least it's the left
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 29, 2019, 03:46:42 pm
Well Loins lost, GB lost, we beat Vikes we'll be sitting pretty...gotta win this one
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 29, 2019, 03:52:20 pm
At least Kwiatkowski is good against the run
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 03:54:07 pm
Missed most ofthis quarter cause they keep breaking in due to the weather.  Annoying as ****. 

I mean once is fine but they have done it 4 times for extended periods already.

Make that 5 times now.  Keep breaking to the local newsdouche trying to get his 15 minutes of fame.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 03:56:41 pm
Still got the newsdouchecanoe.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 29, 2019, 03:57:32 pm
Well Daniel is looking better than Trubisky already...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 03:59:08 pm
Certainly more accurate from what I have been able to see.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 03:59:53 pm
So that was a push off by Robinson but the Vikings defender did grab him by the shoulder first.  Just saying.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:09:34 pm
Thanks for keeping their drive alive Lynch dumbazz.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:11:22 pm
Bears D bringing it!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:12:14 pm
WTF?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 29, 2019, 04:13:36 pm
Dumb thing to do jackson
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:14:10 pm
These penalties are ridiculous!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 29, 2019, 04:17:11 pm
Sign of a poorly coached team.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:18:04 pm
That should be a fumble.  He put it away and made a football move.

But I doubt it gets overturned.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:20:30 pm
Bears ball!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:22:49 pm
These refs suck.  Bad calls against both teams.  Whistlng that fumble dead was huge.

Bad call on roughing the passer.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:23:28 pm
Nice work by Robinson.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:24:25 pm
Damn it.  Larson down.  We are **** cause Long is out.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 29, 2019, 04:24:42 pm
Cohen, all sorts of room...and stumbles....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:24:53 pm
Huge hole and Cohen trips over his own feet.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:25:51 pm
First down!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:26:16 pm
Daniel is making me nervous holding the ball so long.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 29, 2019, 04:27:11 pm
What a unbelievable throw and catch!!! wow...Daniel to Cohen...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:28:11 pm
Cohen was bobbling it.

Daniel is definitely WAY more accurate then Trubisky.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:31:21 pm
Hands to the face not called on the Vikings!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 29, 2019, 04:31:31 pm
Stupid refs...Daniel PUNCHED in the head...and nothing...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:33:35 pm
Forfuck'ssake another weather report!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:36:14 pm
MOtherfucker, thewy come back thent he newdouche comes back with no fuckingnews!!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:38:47 pm
This is the 7th **** interruption witht he dude just droning on about **** that doesn't even matter.  Then he takers like 5 minutes to tell us we are going back to the game.  Don't tell us just fuckingdoit!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:44:32 pm
Still weathershit!  I have missed 75% of the first half witht his crap!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 04:45:56 pm
I don't mind them keeping us updated or even breaking in.  But 10 or 15 minutes of this guy breaking down every single detail of their HD radar is pissingmethefuckoff!  We don't care.  Tell us where the danger is and get back tot he game already.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davep on September 29, 2019, 04:49:49 pm
Well, as usual, the first half belonged to the Bears.  What are the chances that they go into prevent defense and manage to lose it in the second half?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 29, 2019, 04:50:16 pm
Too bad the refs called that forced fumble by Amakamura on Diggs incomplete because i think Dix had a chance for a td on the return
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 05:01:30 pm
BEARS BALL!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 05:04:28 pm
Good!

13-0 Bears!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 29, 2019, 05:16:00 pm
Nagy is so awful.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 05:21:29 pm
Wims!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 05:21:48 pm
Bears may very well be a better team with Daniel as the QB.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 29, 2019, 05:26:10 pm
Daniel right now is showing up Trubisky badly....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 05:29:58 pm
16-0 Bears!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 29, 2019, 05:32:16 pm
Bears may very well be a better team with Daniel as the QB.

Today
But give a good defense a week to game plan and you're goig to see like last year.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on September 29, 2019, 05:34:45 pm
Good God, Mitch who? Didn’t see this one coming after he went down
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 05:38:11 pm
Challenge that!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 05:38:29 pm
Bears never had possession.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 29, 2019, 05:45:33 pm
Don't fair catch that at the frigging 5yrd line!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 05:48:24 pm
McManis!

Hell of a tackle!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 05:52:19 pm
This DEFENSE is AWESOME!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 05:53:08 pm
I want the shut out!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 29, 2019, 05:54:51 pm
Kwiatkowski is just a pure football player
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 05:58:26 pm
First down!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 06:03:20 pm
Holding!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on September 29, 2019, 06:03:38 pm
Bear in a shell now
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 06:04:18 pm
I hate the soft D.  Play for the shut out!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on September 29, 2019, 06:11:04 pm
That was huge stopping their 2 point play
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 06:17:58 pm
Great game today by the depleted defense!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 06:19:17 pm
Game ball goes to Goldman and the rest of the DT's who filled in for Hicks imo.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on September 29, 2019, 06:29:00 pm
How many years did Cousins sign for?  He’s not much of anything at all.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 29, 2019, 06:34:57 pm
Thought for the day. How are they going to replace Trubisky?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 29, 2019, 06:54:21 pm
The only person who knows the offense is Bray.

They'll put him on the roster for the duration of the injury
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 07:02:57 pm
davebear I agree.  However it depends on the length of Trubisky's injury.  If it is going to be a few weeks then that is how they should roll.

However if Trubisky is done for the season or for a great length of time it might be time to look into acquiring Manning.

The window is small in the NFL and ours is right now.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on September 29, 2019, 07:07:25 pm
Very impressed with Daniel today against a very tough defense.
Kwiatkoski lead the D with 10 tackles, 9 solo, 1 sack and 2 tackles for loss....yes, Kwiatkoski.
Pineiro was 3 for 3 FGs.
O'Donnells punting kept the Vikes pinned in their own territory.
Neither RB did well, both with a 2.5yr avg. But incredibly Cook, the leading NFL rusher, did much worse in yards-35 to 53, and that against a depleted defense.

Just a awesome performance today.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on September 29, 2019, 07:18:07 pm
Next week is K. Mack's first time playing Oakland since they traded him.....Would NOT want to be Oakland OL or QB next week!!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 29, 2019, 07:35:32 pm
I believe Nick Williams had 2 sacks
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on September 29, 2019, 08:01:13 pm
The D was unreal today while missing several key starters.  That bodes well for the future.

The O did fairly well under a top 3 defense under Daniel.

We should beat the Raiders and be 4-1 going into the bye.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on September 29, 2019, 08:09:23 pm
Kudos to Nick Kwiatkowski & Nick Williams. Both played like All-Pros.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on September 29, 2019, 08:16:56 pm
The Day of the Nicks!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 29, 2019, 08:26:00 pm
I just hope they can get away from passes to the line of scrimmage on 3rd downs
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on September 29, 2019, 08:31:09 pm
Kwitkofskit played well today. He does well going toward the LOS vs chasing receivers.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on September 29, 2019, 08:54:17 pm
Chad Kelly.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 29, 2019, 10:06:59 pm
That was my thought.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on September 29, 2019, 10:13:10 pm
Another thing to think about is the game next Sunday is in London, not USA, but of course you all knew that. That makes a difference in practice and preparation. Things will happen quickly, especially with the injuries.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on September 29, 2019, 11:01:42 pm
YES, Chad Kelly please.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 30, 2019, 06:35:01 am
All you need to see what Mack provides to this defense can be seen on the lone TD drive they gave up. Mack was out (at least for the 3rd and short at the goal line).

Without him they are good. With him they are GREAT. Wonderful feeling seeing that. Too many stupid penalties though (WTF up with Jackson canceling out a good D play with a dumbass penalty ?).

Competent offense is all this team needs for most games. It still feels too scatter-brained. Good to see Wims get some looks (and Robinson is a true #!).

Give some props to Special Teams as well. Good kickoffs, punting, coverage and Eddie Money made all his kicks.

Good win. Sucks that Trubs got hurt. This team cannot seem to get and keep QBs. Some kind of curse for sure....

Go Bears !



Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on September 30, 2019, 07:04:26 am
Kwit v. Cook
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ThoughtfulCalculatingBlackandtancoonhound-mobile.mp4
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on September 30, 2019, 09:34:02 am
Most excellent D performance.  I thought for sure the second I heard Roquan was out this was a loss.  Kwaitkowski had a super game, although he wasnt really called into coverage too much, a good thing.  And Goldman started, but did he get hurt or were they resting him later in the game?  And put me down for thinking Daniel looked much more accurate with his pass placement. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on September 30, 2019, 09:39:35 am
The Bears deactivated linebacker Roquan Smith for Sunday’s game against the Vikings and it’s unclear whether he will return to action in Week Five.

Personal matters were cited as the reason why Smith did not play and head coach Matt Nagy did not elaborate on Smith’s situation after the 16-6 victory. During a Monday appearance on WBBM Newsradio, the coach did not say whether Smith will travel to London with the team to face the Raiders.

“We’ll see,” Nagy said. “We’re still working through all that. We’ll see where that goes.”

Linebacker Nick Kwiatkoski took Smith’s spot in the lineup and posted nine tackles, a sack, two tackles for a loss and a forced fumble.

“I’m proud of the way he stepped up,” linebacker Danny Trevathan said, via 670 The Score. “When he came in, I knew there was going to be no letdown, no letup.”

The Bears may be counting on Kwiatkoski again this week.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on September 30, 2019, 12:45:52 pm
https://sportsmockery.com/2019/09/possible-reason-for-roquan-smith-missing-bears-vikings-game-revealed/
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on September 30, 2019, 01:29:52 pm
Did anyone else see the Club Dub video with Kyle Long with no shirt on?  He looks like he hasnt been in a weight room for YEARS....  Just saying.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on September 30, 2019, 01:59:45 pm
My only complaint about yesterday is that there sure wer a lot of receivers and backs running sideways when they were close to a first down.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 01, 2019, 06:23:27 am
Also WTF was up with Cohen making a fair catch at the 5 ? The return game is doing no favors as far as ST goes this year.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on October 01, 2019, 06:32:19 am
I’ve spent a decent amount of time in the gym and reading about bodybuilding, powerlifting and fitness. A great deal of having visibly defined muscles is diet and the type of lifting you do. Most guys competing in power lifting competitions look nothing like the guys bodybuilding. They usually look pretty “fluffy”.

In reading some of Mark Rippetoe’s work, he claims to reach your peak strength, you need to eat a little more as it is impossible to build strength (outside of newb gains) unless you are in caloric excess.

Did anyone else see the Club Dub video with Kyle Long with no shirt on?  He looks like he hasnt been in a weight room for YEARS....  Just saying.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on October 01, 2019, 06:38:21 am
Quote
Did anyone else see the Club Dub video with Kyle Long with no shirt on?  He looks like he hasnt been in a weight room for YEARS....  Just saying.

ummmm...  Linemen are usually not cut.  They are strong as **** bastards just aren't very ripped.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on October 01, 2019, 10:32:01 am
Trubisky will be traveling with the team

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2019/9/30/20892259/bears-injuries-akiem-hicks-kyle-long-vikings-matt-nagy

Trib wont let me in anymore. Not paying for it
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on October 01, 2019, 10:51:22 am
Abdullah Anderson waived, Bray will be rostered.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 01, 2019, 11:26:42 am
Trubisky will be traveling with the team

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2019/9/30/20892259/bears-injuries-akiem-hicks-kyle-long-vikings-matt-nagy

Trib wont let me in anymore. Not paying for it

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Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 01, 2019, 11:33:55 am

Kwiatowski was sometimes replaced on passing downs when he wasn't blitzing by Kevin Pierre-Louis (#57).  Though I only saw him for a few plays that cat can move and hit.  He's ahead of last 2018 draft pick Joel Iyiegbuniwe on the depth chart at ILB.

Trevathan and Kwiatowski are both FAs at year end.

Just when I start thinking about replacing Amukamora next year he has a game like he did Sunday.

Glad Wims got some targets.  Was Ridley active?   Bears need to be rotating multiple receivers into games instead of just using the standard 3.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 01, 2019, 11:39:58 am
Thoughts from the game:

1. Daniels was an excellent game manager. He did what we need to win - and did not turn the  ball over. He got rid of the ball quickly and was super confident throwing. He KNOWS the offense - I do not think Mitch understands the O.
2. If Mitch tucks the ball away and takes the loss he is still playing - I am still pissed he did not get MAJOR preseason minutes - guess what, he is now hurt.
3. Defense was amazing and our D is super deep - we have a lot of linebackers who can step up.
4. Nick Williams - your table is ready - great game. Next man up.
5. I don't remember them calling Fueller or Amukamura's name once - that's a good thing.
6. Montgomery needs MORE carries in a game. Seems like they wanted to get Cohen the ball more.
7. The line play was better.



Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 01, 2019, 11:48:21 am
My point on Long wasnt that he wasnt cut, as I would never expect a lineman to be.  My point was look at his chest, his arms look big and strong but his pecs look flat and deflated.  Like he hasnt been lifting in a long time.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 01, 2019, 01:01:40 pm

Daniel, who many here wanted to cut in the preseason, seemed much more decisive than Mitch.  His short/intermediate throws were on target and had good velocity.

Daniel's game may suffer if the pocket deteriorates - he's not nearly as mobile as Mitch but he seems to have a better sense of pressure and gets rid of the ball prior to getting sacked. 

Bears are better off with Mitch but Daniel can win you some games as a reliever.  Remember last year when he beat Detroit but lost to the lowly Giants.  Vikings were not ready for Daniel but the Raiders will be.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 01, 2019, 03:28:13 pm
Thoughts from the game:

1. Daniels was an excellent game manager. He did what we need to win - and did not turn the  ball over. He got rid of the ball quickly and was super confident throwing. He KNOWS the offense - I do not think Mitch understands the O.
2. If Mitch tucks the ball away and takes the loss he is still playing - I am still pissed he did not get MAJOR preseason minutes - guess what, he is now hurt.
3. Defense was amazing and our D is super deep - we have a lot of linebackers who can step up.
4. Nick Williams - your table is ready - great game. Next man up.
5. I don't remember them calling Fueller or Amukamura's name once - that's a good thing.
6. Montgomery needs MORE carries in a game. Seems like they wanted to get Cohen the ball more.
7. The line play was better.

I'm always amazed how well the Bears DB's cover Vikings WR's who are quite good.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 01, 2019, 03:29:49 pm
Kwiatowski was sometimes replaced on passing downs when he wasn't blitzing by Kevin Pierre-Louis (#57).  Though I only saw him for a few plays that cat can move and hit.  He's ahead of last 2018 draft pick Joel Iyiegbuniwe on the depth chart at ILB.

Trevathan and Kwiatowski are both FAs at year end.

Just when I start thinking about replacing Amukamora next year he has a game like he did Sunday.

Glad Wims got some targets.  Was Ridley active?   Bears need to be rotating multiple receivers into games instead of just using the standard 3.

According to one sportswriter when the Bears gave Whitehair a lot of money it meant they won't resign Long and Amakamura.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 01, 2019, 04:35:13 pm

Both Long and Amukamara are signed through 2020...both are 30.

Amukamara probably has more of a chance of playing next year since he's doing well so far and there is no up and coming CB on the roster that can fill his shoes.  Long is coming off a dreadful Redskin game and is either underperforming or injured.  Bears have the 32 year old Ted Larsen as his backup Rashard Coward and the rookie from Notre Dame on the PS could be future options to replace Long.

It's a whole lot easier to find a quality guard than a quality CB.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 01, 2019, 04:49:16 pm
Not sure why the writer from Da Windy City said they would not be resigned if they have another year.

Long is hurt.  He's had a hip injury the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 01, 2019, 05:24:23 pm
This definitely Longs last year. He is hurt every year. They could also have Daniels and Whitehair at guard and find a center.

Prince has a year or two of real good football left.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on October 01, 2019, 09:47:52 pm
Nothing against Amukamara, but he's lost a step, I want next year's 1st draft pick to be a CB.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 01, 2019, 10:46:00 pm
There will be several holes to fix and no 3rd and 4th round picks.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on October 02, 2019, 06:36:18 am
Daniel's bad game last year was a rainy one too - had the ball slip out of his hand a few times
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 02, 2019, 07:27:05 am
Its funny that even those that get paid to comment and write for the NFL seem to keep calling Chase Daniel with "Chase Daniels". Think I even saw an infographic during the game that even had "Daniels".

Career serviceable backup and they can't even get your name right :D
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 02, 2019, 07:42:10 am
Ehh I call him either. Daniels just sounds more natural for some reason.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 02, 2019, 08:39:45 am
Charlie Daniels, Jack Daniels, Chase Daniels, they all just flow....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 02, 2019, 09:26:15 am
Not sure why the writer from Da Windy City said they would not be resigned if they have another year.


I didn't see the article but he might have been thinking they could be candidates to be cut since the Bears may have some upcoming cap issues.  But as far as 2020 - its Trevathan and Dix that are FAs and possibly Ray Robertston-Harris.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 02, 2019, 11:11:52 am
Charlie Daniels, Jack Daniels, Chase Daniels, they all just flow....

Heck yeah!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on October 02, 2019, 11:23:38 am
They still add on to Alshon's last name too
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on October 02, 2019, 11:31:23 am
Raiders got destroyed by Seattle last year who arrived in London early.  The Raiders learned their lesson and are practicing in London now.  It may not be that big a factor and I get why Nagy wants to stick with the Halas Hall routine as long as possible.  But I think it would be advantageous to get the long flight over with.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 02, 2019, 12:29:31 pm

We know Trubisky is out and sounds like Smith too, but I'd bet guys like Hicks and maybe Gabriel will be held out so they get extra time off with the upcoming bye after Oakland.

Can Bears defense contain Derek Carr enough so the Bears offense can put up more points than Oakland?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 02, 2019, 12:39:15 pm
Certain games 'should' be winners and this is one of them. The schedule gets much tougher later, so they need to put full effort and time into winning this and not sit on their laurels expecting a win. If ANY impact player is available, he needs to play, IMO. I'd hate to see them lose a winnable game, lose to a tougher opponent later, and then miss the playoffs because they didn't win the games they should have.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 02, 2019, 12:48:06 pm
Roquan practicing today, could play sunday.  Great news.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on October 02, 2019, 12:53:32 pm
Nagy, is going by what Kansas City did when he was there.  They flew to  London on Thursday and won their game.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 02, 2019, 01:15:09 pm
Certain games 'should' be winners and this is one of them. The schedule gets much tougher later, so they need to put full effort and time into winning this and not sit on their laurels expecting a win. If ANY impact player is available, he needs to play, IMO. I'd hate to see them lose a winnable game, lose to a tougher opponent later, and then miss the playoffs because they didn't win the games they should have.....

Agree they better not blow this.

If a guy like Hicks is ok i would like to see them have him dressed but not play unless the D falters.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on October 02, 2019, 05:20:56 pm
the tape never lies guy says Leno stinks:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwi4xYadC7g
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on October 02, 2019, 05:53:27 pm
Looks like I will miss Sunday's Bear game. Thanks to Dish.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 03, 2019, 05:03:06 am
They used to play the London game early so it could be nationally televised..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 03, 2019, 06:42:22 am
Its listed as 1 EST in the schedule so that's like 6 PM their time. Primetime game ! :D
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 12:22:21 pm
Hell of a catch by Montgomery.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 12:25:38 pm
Leno sucks!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 12:36:47 pm
Gruden is out coaching Pagano.  He better adjust quick.  Cause anyone with a brain should have known the raiders game plan would be run the ball and throw quick passes to tire out the D.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 12:42:29 pm
WTF Daniel!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 06, 2019, 12:42:48 pm
Bears going to blow this game? Terrible start.... Where's the D??
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 06, 2019, 12:49:26 pm
Gruden is out coaching Pagano.  He better adjust quick.  Cause anyone with a brain should have known the raiders game plan would be run the ball and throw quick passes to tire out the D.

Coaching_

They're getting physically dominated
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 01:15:00 pm
What a **** show. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 01:15:38 pm
They haven't done a damn thing right the entire half. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on October 06, 2019, 01:18:33 pm
Well this isn’t going the way Nagy thought it would.  Bears are playing as a team like they are jet lagged, which they very well may be.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 06, 2019, 01:24:45 pm
Yep, Mack and the D looks jetlagged.  And we are shiiting the bed, nice.  Gruden is coaching circles around Nagy.  The O Line blows chunks.  Heistand should be left in London, and Long can sit the rest of the game, if only we could replace Leno and Massie at the same time.  And if Pagano wants to try blitzing, please try ANYTHING, as what you did in the first half didnt work. 

This is a typical trap game and we are going to lose.  Mark it down.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 06, 2019, 01:25:35 pm
Oh yeah, I cant wait to see the Tape Doesnt Lie video after this cluster.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 01:34:52 pm
Three and out.  What a clusterfuck!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 06, 2019, 01:35:47 pm
What a pile of steamy sh!t!! Nagy is really looking like his level is at coordinator. Another miss by the Bears. The D looks lost, the Raiders are running at will...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 01:40:07 pm
TD BEARS!

They sure needed that.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 01:57:09 pm
MILLER!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 01:58:28 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 06, 2019, 02:02:58 pm
I can't believe Daniel threw that pass to Miller.  Fortunately it went through the defenders hands.
I'm not thinking Daniel's decision making is better than Mitch

Looks like they'll be trying out kickers.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:07:37 pm
TARIK COHEN!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:10:09 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:12:00 pm
21-17 Bears!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 06, 2019, 02:14:45 pm
Ha! They showed Pinero could barely get up after the last extra point holding his knee but he's back out there like nothing happened.

Hope the defense doesn't get gassed and let this one go.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:22:07 pm
BEARS BALL!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 06, 2019, 02:23:31 pm
Mcmannis great play.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on October 06, 2019, 02:29:16 pm
LMAO! That’s a catch, and **** incredible!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:29:40 pm
Both feet were down.  The ball moved when he hit the ground though.  couldn't see if his hand was under it.

This will be close.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:31:03 pm
FIRST DOWN!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on October 06, 2019, 02:32:48 pm
Charles Leno is having a rough year...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:33:03 pm
Daniel WTF?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:33:35 pm
Holy ****!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:33:54 pm
Bears got really lucky there.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 06, 2019, 02:34:05 pm
How lucky was that
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:34:12 pm
Bad call.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on October 06, 2019, 02:36:30 pm
Refs giving the bears a freebie.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on October 06, 2019, 02:41:14 pm
Hey the Raiders touched the QB!!!!



Where’s the protection flag???


Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 06, 2019, 02:46:03 pm
The bears can't stop the run
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:47:51 pm
That's a flop.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:48:39 pm
BEARS BALL!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:48:50 pm
I knew they were going to go for it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:49:53 pm
Damn.  Going back to the Raiders.

Bears should have been ready for that.

Come on.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 06, 2019, 02:50:17 pm
Ajhhhh no fumble
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:55:07 pm
These missed tackles are killing them.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 02:56:42 pm
They will score and win the game if the D doesn't come up with a  turn over here.

There isn't going to be any time left.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 03:01:06 pm
Actually lucky they scored that quick.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 06, 2019, 03:01:47 pm
Not watching. They going for 2??
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 03:06:01 pm
Raiders up by 3.

Bears driving in Raiders territory.  Two time outs and over a minute to play.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 03:06:40 pm
2nd and 10 1:22 to go.  47 yard line.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 03:07:22 pm
Daniel threw another WTF interception.  Game over.

Bears lose.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 03:07:55 pm
Just as well they didn't deserve to win.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 06, 2019, 03:08:06 pm
Only about 5 defenders in the area
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 03:08:43 pm
And no Bears receiver anywhere close.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 06, 2019, 03:16:32 pm
Daniel had money on the Raiders, no question.  I would trade Long/Leno/Massie all three heads up for Richie Incognito.  Our OL is putrid.  Long needs to be put down and sent to the glue factory.  And Leno with him.  This was putrid, and if they hadnt suckked so hard the first half, maybe we would have won.  I think they thought they were just going to go in and win the game, but Chuckie out coached Nagy, hands down.  ANd that running into the kicker?  Seriously, ST kind of stinks as well.  A roller coaster and I am just numb right now.  Not sure Trubisky would have done any better, as he is erratic, but at least he wouldnt have any money on the game.  And Mr Mack, the hype got to you, sorry.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 06, 2019, 03:19:49 pm
Well at least we don't have a QB controversy...

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 06, 2019, 03:21:25 pm
Jim Miller just said Richie Incognito OWNED Eddie Goldman.  Have to agree, as Goldman wasnt mentioned and they ran all day long
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 06, 2019, 03:22:23 pm
We dont have a decent QB, period.  The real good news is we wont have to have another roller coaster ride for 2 weeks.  And No jet lag excuse the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 06, 2019, 03:22:39 pm
I'm not going to blame the coach for linemen being physically dominated.  That's on them they're professionals.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 06, 2019, 03:24:18 pm
ALl I can say is that I am NOT impressed with the Harry Heistand era. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 06, 2019, 03:27:41 pm
They just said that Leno is the most penalized lineman in THE ENTIRE NFL!!!!!  Um, hellllllooooo
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 06, 2019, 03:48:51 pm
3 and 2 isn't the end of the world... But damm, that was horrific.. So our O line is terrible, we have no QB.. WE have a heckuva D, oh wait... That was a sorry display of defense... What the fukk do we have.. I just watched the pack drive on the Cowboys like a hot knife through butter. New coach... WTF?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 06, 2019, 03:52:05 pm
Since our O Line blows chunks, we have no run game, which means all the fancy craap our Head Coach wants to do doesnt work as it should.  We are going to waste a good D this year, kind of like last year.  IF we had a superstar QB, like Roders/Brady/Mahomes, it would be a different situation, but we may never ever have one of those.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 06, 2019, 04:06:21 pm
Anyone know how long it takes to recover from a dislocated elbow_?

Losing Hicks really hurt.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 06, 2019, 04:08:12 pm
I was thinking about that too.  Hicks didnt play last week and we were ok.  Abduhlla was inactive, maybe they should have made him active.  Just saying.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 06, 2019, 04:33:27 pm
Surgery IR would be a big blow
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on October 06, 2019, 04:36:40 pm
Wanted the Bears to trade into the 1st and get Jacobs. Man, is he going to be good.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on October 06, 2019, 04:41:07 pm
The Bears can't get decent QB play, then you look at what 6th-rounder Minshew is doing for Jacksonville. It's beyond depressing.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 06, 2019, 09:55:20 pm
Nagy is the NFL's worst head coach.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on October 06, 2019, 09:57:29 pm
ALl I can say is that I am NOT impressed with the Harry Heistand era.

me either 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 06, 2019, 10:51:36 pm

I think our defense was hearing too much about them being better than the '85 Bears. 

As bad as our O-line and d-line played somehow the Bears had a chance to get a tie or a win at the end.  Not sure what happened on that last play, otherwise Daniel had a pretty decent game.

 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 07, 2019, 06:28:57 am
Daniel's two INTs were real head scratchers, like he was on purpose throwing to the other team.  Kind of no excuse INTs.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 07, 2019, 06:55:01 am
There also was no excuse to give up the drive that led to the final go-ahead TD for the Raiduhs. Think the D spent too much time reading their clippings and not enough study of Raider tendancies.....

Hate overseas games. Always have and always will. But both teams have to play so there is that. Look at the bright side. The offense finally scored 21 points ! Still mystified that other teams with far less talent seem to get that much each week........
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on October 07, 2019, 07:18:03 am
97 yard drive for their final score?  From this D?  There is no excuse for that.  They didn't get help from the special teams which fvcked up big but they have to not allow that late in the game.

The Defense got their asses handed to them.  The WHOLE GAME.

The Raiders shut down the run and dared the Bears to beat them with Chase Daniel.  He couldn't do it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 07, 2019, 07:22:39 am
And after that running into the kicker, on 4th and 1, you just knew Gruden wasnt going to punt, I saw that sneak coming a mile away.  That was a brutal couple of plays.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on October 07, 2019, 07:33:25 am
That was the game-changer there - they had the momentum until the fake punt was successful
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on October 07, 2019, 07:34:09 am
Of course - I thought it was gonna be 40-0 after the first-half domination
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on October 07, 2019, 07:41:54 am
The whole world knew the fake was coming.

WHY EVEN RUSH THE PUNTER IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

You stopped them.  You are getting the ball back with 6:00 to play and the lead with field position.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 07, 2019, 08:17:48 am
Tabor ST coach is average on his best days. Thought before the season began he was the weakest of the coordinators but now I've got to wonder wtf Hiestand is smoking. Oline regression is inexcuseable.....

Undisciplined teams lose games they should win. Simple.

I think this was a perfect storm game of jet-lag, mind-numbing errors (both coaches and players) and general hubris.

Bears got served a dish of humble pie. The real test is where they go from here (Vikings prevented their implosion this week. Can the Bears do that over the Bye ?)...

Sophmore slump for Nagy for sure. Still does not seem to use his personnel correctly (Cohen is NOT a premier back. WAKE THE **** UP NAGY and use your tools correctly).

He's a good tool (and you have others too). Put away the Coach of the Year trophy, get back to basic football. and USE THEM. Think of where this O would be without Robinson......

Again, you see teams with less talent on O scoring more than this underachieving group. Frustrating. But they are 3-2. The season is not over. But as usual they cannot make it easy on themselves.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 07, 2019, 09:34:55 am

Derek Carr carved up the Bears with short passes to predominantly TEs.  You won't find a household name among there skill position players besides Carr and the rookie Jacobs.

Short passes.  Double Mack and take your chances with the Floyd and the d-line.  That coupled with the total inability to stop the run.  We need Hicks and Nichols back now.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 07, 2019, 09:40:47 am
The whole world knew the fake was coming.

WHY EVEN RUSH THE PUNTER IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

You stopped them.  You are getting the ball back with 6:00 to play and the lead with field position.

Yes, set up the return.  But even if the Bears get the ball Nagy, with the 4 point lead, would have went ball control to try to kill the clock, and with the Bears running game they would be punting it right back to the Raiders.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 07, 2019, 10:23:32 am
The O-line sucks because Jay Leno is the most penalized OT in the NFL, Long can not longer block - he great many years ago, but he physically can't do, Daniels is struggling mightily at center - he can not get on his blocks. Massie is below average.

Not sure who the backup center is, but I move Daniels to guard and sit Long - Long's body can no longer do it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 07, 2019, 10:24:49 am
On that fake punt you can even see the snapper angle the punt towards the up man. Just terrible. It's Gruden - he does that all the time.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 07, 2019, 10:26:06 am
Derek Carr carved up the Bears with short passes to predominantly TEs.  You won't find a household name among there skill position players besides Carr and the rookie Jacobs.

Short passes.  Double Mack and take your chances with the Floyd and the d-line.  That coupled with the total inability to stop the run.  We need Hicks and Nichols back now.

Yep - basically how the Packers beat us. This needs to be fixed. BUT - everyone and their brother knew Jacobs was running on first down - yet we were not ready.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on October 07, 2019, 10:32:25 am
If the Raiders TE isn’t a household name yet, he will be soon...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 07, 2019, 10:33:27 am
Yep Waller and #87 were huge. Great players.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 07, 2019, 10:56:16 am

And where was our #2 draft choice Adam Shaheen?  Did I miss the injury report?  Or has our recent FA TE beat him out?

Other than an occassional 5 yard pass to Burton we are not getting anything from the TE position.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on October 07, 2019, 11:04:01 am
yeah, looks like Holtz has beat out Shaheen.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 07, 2019, 11:21:02 am
Yep - basically how the Packers beat us. This needs to be fixed. BUT - everyone and their brother knew Jacobs was running on first down - yet we were not ready.

It was the Bears who were consistently running on first down.  The Raiders would often get 8 or 9 yards on first downs passing...at least they were in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 07, 2019, 11:24:31 am
Shaheen now pretty much officially looks like just another guy.  He'd better block well or I would rather see a guy like Dan Brown replace him.

Not sure why Burton looks so sluggish unless he is not recovered.  Should be able to tell after the bye.

According to all the media experts, the Raiders have a much bigger OL than most so they could power our smaller DL especially w/o Hicks.
They were also cut blocking which really intimidated Goldman especially.  They were only called once.

According to the SCORE, the Patriots tried to sign Alex Bars off our practice squad last week and the Bears gave him a roster salary and persuaded him to stay.  Good move by Pace.  My guess is they want more time to coach him up and see him replacing Long.

Long needs to sit for as long as it take to get healthy, he's ineffective now.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 07, 2019, 11:27:35 am
Long just has had too many major injuries. It catches up with these guys. Steve McMichael once said the every play for offensive and defensive lineman is like a car crash. It's pretty brutal. He had a good run. 3 Pro Bowls.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 07, 2019, 11:30:29 am
Every time Shaheen gets hit he looks like he will not get up.

Travathan and Floyd and Smith got destroyed by the Raiders O-line as well.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on October 07, 2019, 11:56:00 am
Didn't see it , didn't get in till 9 pm last night, ass is dragging at work, doesn't sound like I missed much, would have had to go to a bar to watch, dunno if its that important
to me anymore. Same song with the Bears over and over. Lovie got the Bear to the superbowl along with Chico, Jauron had a 13-3 season, last year was fun, this year ? meh. I didn't
Like the Howard trade, we all know Cohen at some point is going to get busted into a million pcs. Robert Gentry couldn't play every down and neither can he, The OL is no where near
as good as last year, the TE position has gone completely south, somehow the Bears have to score more points. I hate to see Long keep playing, he's young and when he gets old, It'll be
bad. I think its gonna take more than 2 weeks to fix this. that was a long plane ride back I bet.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on October 07, 2019, 12:49:31 pm
I'm assuming Miller ran the wrong route on that last int.  It was still triple coverage if he hadnt shortened up the route.  Still a horrible decision by Daniel, he had quite a few yesterday.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 07, 2019, 01:43:51 pm
Didn't see it , didn't get in till 9 pm last night, ass is dragging at work, doesn't sound like I missed much, would have had to go to a bar to watch, dunno if its that important
to me anymore. Same song with the Bears over and over. Lovie got the Bear to the superbowl along with Chico, Jauron had a 13-3 season, last year was fun, this year ? meh. I didn't
Like the Howard trade, we all know Cohen at some point is going to get busted into a million pcs. Robert Gentry couldn't play every down and neither can he, The OL is no where near
as good as last year, the TE position has gone completely south, somehow the Bears have to score more points. I hate to see Long keep playing, he's young and when he gets old, It'll be
bad. I think its gonna take more than 2 weeks to fix this. that was a long plane ride back I bet.

Dennis Gentry... fixed it!  I miss seeing him play.  Cohen needs to be on the field during 3rd and longs, occasionally in the slot, etc.  Nagy reminds me of a coach that has certain players he wants to play and forgets the other ones until there is like 2 minutes left.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on October 07, 2019, 02:07:03 pm
I said my ass was dragging. oops! bell. back to it. thx for fixing it. Maury county schools are out, had a great drive in. Assume you did too.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 07, 2019, 02:24:38 pm
Dennis Gentry... fixed it!  I miss seeing him play.  Cohen needs to be on the field during 3rd and longs, occasionally in the slot, etc.  Nagy reminds me of a coach that has certain players he wants to play and forgets the other ones until there is like 2 minutes left.

Bears QBs like to go to the same couple of receivers game after game.  Hard to argue since Robinson is so successful.  But notice with Gabriel out more balls went to Miller.  But the #3 receiver (Wims) is ignored just as Miller was when he was #3.

But I can't fault the passing game too much, considering the Bears had their backup Daniel and he had absolutely no help from the run game and was in must pass situations most of the game.

If the Bears D could have shut down the run game they could have contended with the short passing game.  But with the short game accuracy of Carr AND the running game - Bears pass defenders were exposed.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 07, 2019, 07:00:22 pm
Derek Carr carved up the Bears with short passes to predominantly TEs.  You won't find a household name among there skill position players besides Carr and the rookie Jacobs.

Short passes.  Double Mack and take your chances with the Floyd and the d-line.  That coupled with the total inability to stop the run.  We need Hicks and Nichols back now.

Speaking of Floyd.. WTF? Another wasted pick, what year is he?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 07, 2019, 07:06:20 pm
Zero sacks.. That tells you something..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on October 07, 2019, 08:53:52 pm
Bars is pretty damn loyal to Coach Harry and the Bears in turning down a spot on the Pats 53.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on October 07, 2019, 09:15:14 pm
The annoying thing is that the Bears OL got destroyed by a Raiders DL that was dominated by the Vikings OL and running game a week before the Bears DL manhandled the Vikings OL.  Welcome to parity in the NFL.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 08, 2019, 09:17:19 am
Zero sacks.. That tells you something..

Nobody had any sacks in the Raiders game.  Carr is pretty mobile and adept at unloading the ball before getting sacked and with the Raiders strategy of short passes made it even more difficult to get to the QB.

And FYI Floyd has 2 sacks this season.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 08, 2019, 09:32:34 am
Sad part is Montgomery 11 rushes and 23 yard.

Nice backup, but not a starter. We have no #1 back. Ridiculous.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 08, 2019, 10:16:58 am

Did you see the holes that Jacobs had this weekend?  Now imagine Montgomery playing with the Raiders and running through those same holes.

Not saying Montgomery is as good as Jacobs but he has to have some daylight. 

Tarik Cohen averaged 4.3 yards his rookie year.  4.5 last year.  This year 2.2. 

I don't think it's all on the O-line, teams don't fear our passing game.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on October 08, 2019, 10:27:45 am
hard to run downhill when you're in the shotgun every freaking play. Running plays from the shotgun just take too long to develop. They also tend to be between the tackles. Cohen would be used on pitch outs around the ends on another team.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: method on October 08, 2019, 10:33:57 am
Hard to run period, esp when your QB locks in on one receiver and rarely throws the ball down the field.

Bears took turbisky for the measurable, from my viewing of him, he's just playing like a guy who hasnt been on the field that much. 1 year of college doesn't get you close to ready for the NFL.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 08, 2019, 11:27:00 am
And FYI Floyd has 2 sacks this season.

Canton Ohio bound
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 08, 2019, 11:31:40 am

Bigger problems than Leonard Floyd on this team - or maybe we should just bench him or cut him all together.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 08, 2019, 11:39:38 am
Look at our first round draft choices starting with 2008-

Chris Williams
Gabe Carimi
Shea McClellin
Kyle Long
Kyle Fuller
Kevin White
Leonard Floyd
Trubisky
Roquan Smith
Nothing in 2019

A list that won't scare any opposing team. Long has been good (no more), Fuller has been playing decent, too early for Smith,
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on October 08, 2019, 11:39:51 am
I sure wouldnt give give him a gazillion dollars next year based on 2 sacks. Hasnt earned squat

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 08, 2019, 12:03:54 pm

Defense plays lights out for the first 4 games and has a stinker of a game where nobody played well and now folks are getting out their microscopes.

Trevathian didn't have a good game Sunday - maybe we don't re-sign him based on Sunday.  And what about Eddie Jackson - he hasn't done too much all season - should we give him a big contract at year end?.  Eddie Goldman got steam rolled Sunday - should we replace him too?

You gonna cut Floyd or bench him now?  No F'ing way.  At the end of season let's evaluate and see what's available and make decisions on performances over the season.  But until then quit your F'ing whining.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 08, 2019, 12:10:11 pm
Trubisky should have played 1/2 of each exhibition game....nothing beats LIVE football

The funny part is Nagy was worried he would get hurt.

Some of the NFL practices are so soft - all of sudden you throw a raw QB into a game against a good D and they can't keep up.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on October 08, 2019, 12:22:34 pm
Baldy was impressed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbbfTTZXNeg

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on October 08, 2019, 12:25:27 pm
You gonna cut Floyd or bench him now?  No F'ing way.  At the end of season let's evaluate and see what's available and make decisions on performances over the season.  But until then quit your F'ing whining.

Benching is assininely stupid. As for whining, you need to look in the mirror. You'll find the whiner there. The Bears definitely need something better there, even a blind person can see that.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 08, 2019, 12:52:23 pm
That one ball on Carr should have been grounding.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 08, 2019, 01:00:50 pm
The Bears definitely need something better there, even a blind person can see that.

And that's your concern after the Raider game? 

OK, let's play.   Options available on 10/8/2019 for upgrading OLB opposite Mack.

Aaron Lynch?
#47?
Sign someone off another team's PS.
Trade one of our #2s next year for an edge rusher.
Trade X on our team for an edge rusher.

Are you concerned because after 5 games Floyd only has 2 sacks?   Nick Williams has 4 sacks - let's get him into Canton.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 08, 2019, 01:12:00 pm
Floyd will always have those couple games that give you hope.

I still say they were jet-lag. I have traveled many times to Europe and several times I get there and i am ok and then sleep for like 20 hours (if I can). It's not fun. 2 days is not enough.

Another mistake by Nagy.....to go along with not playing Trubisky in the pre-season.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 08, 2019, 05:17:33 pm
Many teams have traveled Thursday and played well.
It's hard to say.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 08, 2019, 07:06:18 pm
Not this one..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 09, 2019, 05:19:47 am
Floyd is the least of our problems.

Our offensive line is sh*t, I am talking like bottom of the league bad.  They cannot run or pass block.  K. Long needs to retire.  Leno needs to be replaced.  Whitehair has been playing like he did not deserve the big extension.  Massie is less than average.

How could someone even evaluate our running back situation?  Literally there has been no holes to run through.  I do not even think it is fair to judge the QB play with this line.

We definitely got some other problems but until you fix up front, its really hard to judge the rest.  Build the trenches!

If I were a GM in the NFL.  I would draft an Oline/Dline every draft.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 09, 2019, 07:12:07 am
If I wasnt such a fan, it would really be comical watching Long and sometimes Leno just standing around not blocking anyone, or pushing a teammate in the back. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 09, 2019, 07:16:01 am
Another thing, if I was Pace I would be scouring PS for 31 teams looking for OL upgrades.  Just saying.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 09, 2019, 09:11:42 am
Another thing, if I was Pace I would be scouring PS for 31 teams looking for OL upgrades.  Just saying.

Pace can start with his own PS.  Alex Bars.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 09, 2019, 06:15:47 pm
Bring him in, bring him up, it definitely can't be any worse!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 15, 2019, 07:32:55 am
The referee issue (lack of competency of said officials)  reared its ugly head in the Packers/Lions game last night on the national stage for sure.

Officials need to call what they actually see... not what they THINK they see. Keep the flag in the pocket otherwise.....

The Lions had their chances... I had the feeling when that TE had the ball pop out of his hands in the 1st half that should've been the TD and the Lions had to settle for a FG that it was all she wrote.... but I never would've guessed the refs would be the main culprit.....

Not a good look for the NFL (not that they really seem to care, money making machine that they are) but kind of expected with all the incompetent Al Riverons employed in  crucial roles in the organization.....

But Lions will LOLOLIONS tho for sure......
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 15, 2019, 07:37:50 am
I think the Pack is going to get all the calls this year, as the refs seem to want them to win.  Just like most other years.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on October 15, 2019, 07:45:33 am
Follow the money
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 15, 2019, 08:17:52 am
Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers wasn’t shedding any tears for the Lions after Monday night’s game.

The Lions were victimized by the officials repeatedly — two phantom illegal hands to the face penalties on Detroit’s Trey Flowers, an uncalled pass interference and a flag for a helmet-to-helmet hit on a Lions defensive back who was just diving for the ball — but Rodgers thinks the Packers have had their share of bad calls go against them too.

According to Matt Schneiderman of TheAthletic.com, Rodgers smirked when asked if he thinks the Packers caught breaks with bad officiating.

“I think it equals out pretty good over the years,” Rodgers said.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on October 15, 2019, 09:15:14 am
Only when they play the Pats
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 17, 2019, 12:21:45 pm
Peckers for the last 2 decades have gotten most calls their way. O-line holds every play.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 03:53:06 pm
Looks like another limpdick performance by the Bears.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 20, 2019, 03:54:16 pm
When Matt Nagy is your head coach, that's what you're going to get more often than not.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on October 20, 2019, 04:00:02 pm
I’d be great to see some competence on offense one of these years.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 20, 2019, 04:02:48 pm
Boy did they need that!! Patterson!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 04:03:17 pm
Finally something good happens.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 04:14:01 pm
First down.  But get up field, stop running east to west.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 04:14:44 pm
Finally getting something going on offense.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 20, 2019, 04:17:21 pm
There just isn't anything between the tackles. Need at least a FG here to pull ahead.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 04:21:02 pm
10-9 Bears!

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 20, 2019, 04:22:12 pm
Need the D to play lights out in this one...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on October 20, 2019, 04:24:12 pm
Pinero sure looks good.  Booms ‘em through
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 20, 2019, 04:26:32 pm
Why can't the Bears ever find a guy like Brees? Would be nice to find a long term quality QB...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 04:26:39 pm
Challenge the spot.  That wasn't a first down!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 04:29:24 pm
BULLSHIT!!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 04:29:48 pm
That is terrible!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 04:30:18 pm
How do you not move the ball back after looking at the review?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 20, 2019, 04:34:02 pm
Just what we need, Saints offense to find a rhythm......
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 20, 2019, 04:42:14 pm
And Tru to resort to being Tru and overthrowing, again...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on October 20, 2019, 04:44:31 pm
Quote
The Bears are terrified of Mitch Trubisky. Absolutely terrified. The play-calling is as though Trubisky is a third-stringer. Says all you need to know about their thoughts on him.

https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1186023294811672576
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 04:49:06 pm
NO GOOD!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 20, 2019, 04:51:48 pm
Trubisky is so tight he could crack a walnut in his arse.

The defense is not the same.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 04:55:21 pm
Bears special teams suck azz!

The offense sucks azz!

The defense is doing ok considering but damn!

How can they be this terrible after a bye week?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 20, 2019, 04:55:37 pm
Can we use the "jet lagged" excuse again?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on October 20, 2019, 04:56:16 pm
I’d put in Daniel.  You are getting nothing from Trubisky
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on October 20, 2019, 04:57:07 pm
In an offensive era, the Bears look like they're pining for the 1920's.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on October 20, 2019, 05:03:46 pm
The entire offense is awful. No running game to speak of, poor protection, no imagination.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on October 20, 2019, 05:03:51 pm
The offense is a hot mess
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 20, 2019, 05:07:59 pm
Sad thing is the Saints look like they're ripe for getting beat today but the bears can't take advantage
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 20, 2019, 05:09:21 pm
Trubisky is playing scared.

If his first read is covered or if he feels any pressure he bails.  The offensive line still can't run block but Nagy can't give up on it yet.

Somebody besides Robinson has to get open!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on October 20, 2019, 05:13:49 pm
This team isnt a superbowl contender. Boy do they need a QB. Looks more like a pee wee league game.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 05:15:07 pm
Sad thing is it isn't just the QB.  Where are the TE's?  Where is any receiver not named Robinson?

Why can't the line run block?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 05:17:43 pm
The Saints keep running the same run call over and over.  Bears can't stop it!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 05:20:04 pm
Game over.

Season over.

Stick a fork in them. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on October 20, 2019, 05:23:44 pm
Yeah...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 20, 2019, 05:24:52 pm
Nagy is truly the worst head coach in Bears history.  Beyond horrible.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 20, 2019, 05:27:05 pm
They're running over nick Williams like he's not even there.  They need to sign a big fat run stopper.7
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on October 20, 2019, 05:29:48 pm
The best the Bears could do at RB in the draft was Montgomery huh?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 05:30:15 pm
Dodged a bullet there.  Not that it matters if the O can't move the ball.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 20, 2019, 05:32:37 pm
Nagy needs to get out of Mitchell's head.
Just call the play and make the kid sink or swim
Ml
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 20, 2019, 05:42:34 pm
Nagy needs to get out of Mitchell's head.
Just call the play and make the kid sink or swim
Ml


That would be true, except the offensive line can't do anything.  Until that gets fixed, Mitch has no chance.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on October 20, 2019, 05:45:51 pm
They look like a last place team again.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 20, 2019, 05:53:18 pm
I'm usually against mid-season coaching changes, but Nagy needs to be removed ASAP.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on October 20, 2019, 05:54:06 pm
This is just embarrassing.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 05:59:12 pm
You would think they would have some pride after a similar ass beating in London.

But no.  The Bears have no pride.  They just suck!

This is Wanny/Trestman bad two games in a row.  This one after a bye week and at home against a good team but that is missing it's top players.

The Raiders were the same old Raiders against the Packers today and looked like Superbowl champs against this pathetic team.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on October 20, 2019, 05:59:46 pm
Chad Kelly, please...and have him bring an O-line with him...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 20, 2019, 06:02:03 pm
Another total failure after a bye. The big question is what are they going to do with Trubisky. He is not the anwswer at this point. In what was supposed to be a year they move up deep in the playoffs, they instead lay a fricking egg and in all likelihood don't get close to the playoffs. They'll be lucky to go 8-8 at this point...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on October 20, 2019, 06:03:35 pm
Bears just got a gift...there was no holding on that TD...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 20, 2019, 06:09:43 pm
Playoffs!...Playoffs?....Are you kidding me are we talking about playoffs?!!

Not a chance.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 06:13:27 pm
Why are you throwing it away on 4th down?

SMH!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 06:14:06 pm
They can't even move the ball in garbage time.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on October 20, 2019, 06:17:34 pm
I guess Dick Jauron was the coach of the year for 2001.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 20, 2019, 06:19:23 pm
Well, once again, here we are looking at the QB position. Kelly, Bar, the fricking waterboy...something, someone with a pulse. This is embarrassing...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 20, 2019, 06:22:52 pm
Until Nagy is gone, it really doesn't matter what you do with the QB position.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 20, 2019, 06:29:40 pm
This season is now over.  So sad, put me down for getting rid of Trubisky, injury or not.  Roquan Smith, where was he today?  And Leonard Floyd???  MIA.  I am just sick about the entire performance.  How was our O performance???  Um, yeah, cant go anywhere with that.  Trade for Eli Manning, cause Trubisky aint doing squat.  And if anyone can get Anthony Millers head on strait that would be a good start.  And it doesnt help that the fudge packers are in first, I just hate that.  I dont even want to watch any more football, which is what I wait for all year.  Heart broken, thanks Bears, but at least I am used to it. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on October 20, 2019, 06:31:03 pm
No Oline.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 20, 2019, 06:37:11 pm
The vaunted defense isn't looking too great either.  Weak pass rush can't stop the run no turnovers
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 20, 2019, 06:45:33 pm
To me, the defense gets a pass with Hicks out.  He's a huge difference maker both in stopping the run and in getting pressure up the middle so that the outside rushers can attack.

Pagano >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bozo The Clown>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A piece of ****>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nagy
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 20, 2019, 06:47:15 pm
In their defense the TOP was 2-1 at the end of the 3rd quarter. 

The D are not world beaters but they are good enough to win a championship with an NFL average offense.

Sadly our offense will be dead last in the NFL after this week.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 20, 2019, 06:55:01 pm
My guy Trey Burton is a pusssy and totally worthless.  And Tarik Cohen, trade him for whatever you can get for him, as he does nothing of value.  The only guy on O we should keep is Allen Robinson.  How many carries did Montgomery get??? Yeah I thought so. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 20, 2019, 06:56:43 pm
It pisses me off that Teddy small hands Bridgewater disected us, but I could see every single wide open pass happening before it happened.  Not sure if that was on Pagano or Payton.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 20, 2019, 06:56:54 pm
Yes, Trey Burton is worthless.  I prefer Shaheen.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 20, 2019, 06:57:26 pm
And two games  in a row we had next to zero, or zero pressure on QB.  WTF????
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 20, 2019, 06:58:24 pm
Shaheen is just as worthless, sorry.  If we are going to rely heavily on the TE, lets get someone we can rely on
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 20, 2019, 07:01:28 pm
So...offseason targets are a new QB, help on the Oline and a new TE....at least...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dogstoothe on October 20, 2019, 07:17:58 pm
Teddy "small hands" Bridgewater, that's accurate, under troubled waters and all that, I lost a lot of money, lost it like a fool, lost it like a stupid fool.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on October 20, 2019, 07:18:12 pm
Bears ran a total of 7 times for 17 yards. Nagy really is an idiot.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 20, 2019, 07:21:31 pm
To put just how bad Nagy is into perspective, he's worse than Texans coach Bill O'Brien.

That is a wild scene, man.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 20, 2019, 07:22:57 pm
That was a total cluster fukk!! Offense is a disaster with the Defense not far behind. If Trubisky tries to complete a pass over 5 or 6 yards it's overthrown. The bears look like they have gone backwards.. I really thought they were going to win today, heck I thought they were contenders for the division this year.. What a fukking joke!! They'll end up in no mans land.. Shitty record picking in the middle of the pack,, Or do we even have  first round draft pick? I can't get over how bad they look.. At what point does Pace start taking heat for the Trubisky pick?





Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 20, 2019, 07:25:03 pm
Until you deal with Nagy, you cannot fairly judge Trubisky.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on October 20, 2019, 07:43:55 pm
Nagy is the return of trestman.  You can't tell me that D was putting max effort out there today.  I think he's lost the team and we just saw the first signs of it in the last two games.

I saw a few players completely dogging it.  Robinson not blocking on other receivers catches.  Jackson jogging around out there.  Neither Nagy or Trubisky trust each other.  Refusing to even attempt to run the ball is a guaranteed loss every week.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 20, 2019, 07:51:17 pm
It's all about dancing, partying, 'Club Dub' nonsense. He's got a loose culture and it shows. Seen any fire? How about players playing like they've been talked to and are feeling the heat? No, it's the same stupid crap week after week. This team isn't improving at all, it's regressing. It is all about culture and the culture under Nagy is it's easy going here. Maybe a few chairs need thrown through walls instead!!  >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 20, 2019, 07:52:42 pm
And maybe it's time for the defense to light a fire under the offense and call them out on their play!! Have some fricking accountability!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on October 20, 2019, 08:02:47 pm
I’m sure it’s hard to give your 110% on defense when they can so clearly see that having Mitch makes it impossible to win.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 20, 2019, 08:17:55 pm
Instead of 'Club Dub' how bout 'Club Accountability'.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 20, 2019, 08:22:45 pm
Fire Nagy, then you can start to address all of the other bullshit.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on October 20, 2019, 08:30:01 pm
Trubisky is missing open guys, not throwing to the open guys and overthrowing anybody deep. I don’t think that is Nagy. The online is bad and the playcaling is suspect at times but Trubisky is not playing well.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 20, 2019, 08:36:23 pm
Any sports coach or manager is supposed to put their players in the best position to succeed.  Nagy, being the horrible coach that he is, is not doing that.

Mitch is very inexperienced.  There are a few things that he does well right now and a lot that he doesn't.  Why does C u n t B o y call plays that Mitch is not good at?

The fact is that most of the great QBs in the NFL have been doing this for a long, long time.

Nagy sucks and must go.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on October 20, 2019, 08:37:38 pm
54 passes to 7 rushes.  Nagys playcalling is horrible.  If the other team knows you are scared to run the ball they are going to be in the QBs face the whole game.  You can't win that way.  This loss and the horrible offense is 100% on nagy.  The guy is clueless.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 20, 2019, 08:40:16 pm
The piece of **** that they brought in from Notre Dame has taken a solid average offensive line and **** it up beyond belief.

On the other hand, even if the O-line was playing well, NagyCunt would still not run the ball.

Fire Nagy.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 20, 2019, 09:22:11 pm
Over/under on Bears 2019 wins:  6
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 21, 2019, 04:53:14 am
I agree with the blow back on Pace.  I have firmly supported Pace since he started, but I think we are starting to see his team emerge.

Obviously the QB draft situation.  Moving up to take Trubusky, when you could have held tight and had at least two of the three Trubusky, Mahommes and Watson to choose from. 

I always felt that John Fox was forced on him.  However when we took Nagy after KC losses playoff game and most experts said he called a pretty bad game as OC it was a head scratcher. 

Losing Vic F. is looking more and more like it was a bigger deal than most realized. 

Also iron sharpens iron.  Our OL is so bad, I think it left our coaches with the impression that the DL was more stout than it is....when you practice every day against a weak opponent....you become weak.

If I were ownership, I would tell Pace he better send the message that if the ship does not get corrected heads are going to roll, starting with his.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 21, 2019, 04:59:35 am
I agree with Paces head rolling. He not only was in charge of the "trade up" to get Mitch, he was also in charge of hiring Nagy. This team was pathetic yesterday..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 21, 2019, 05:26:01 am
It is definitely time to start looking Paces way. His picks are not panning out.

2015 Draft

 1 – Kevin White, WR, West Virginia BUST, gone

 2 – Eddie Goldman, DL, Florida State

3 – Hroniss Grasu, OL, Oregon BUST gone

4 – Jeremy Langford, RB, Michigan State BUST gone

5 – Adrian Amos, S, Penn State With GB

 Tayo Fabuluje, OL, TCU Gone

1 player stuck and making a impact

    2016 Draft

1 – Leonard Floyd, EDGE, Georgia With team but not playing well

2 – Cody Whitehair, OL, Kansas State With team, avg player

3 – Jonathan Bullard, DL, Florida BUST gone

4 – Nick Kwiatkoski, LB, West Virginia Still with team

4 – Deon Bush, S, Miami With team as backup

4 – Deiondre’ Hall, CB, Northern Iowa BUST now with Eagles

5 – Jordan Howard, RB, Indiana Gone, with Eagles

6 -DeAndre Houston-Carson, S William & Mary, Backup

7 – Daniel Braverman, WR, Western Michigan Gone who knows where...

One of his better drafts with players going elsewhere...


    2017 Draft

1 – Mitchell Trubisky, QB, North Carolina BUST not playing worth crap!

2 – Adam Shaheen, TE, Ashland  Wasted 'project pick'

4 – Eddie Jackson, S, Alabama Impact player

4 – Tarik Cohen, RB, North Carolina A&T Talented underperforming player

5 – Jordan Morgan, OL, Kutztown


Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 21, 2019, 05:41:26 am
The score was 12-10 starting the 3rd quarter.  The defense allowed the Saints to move down the field in methodical fashion and then Ginn catches the long one.  The defense looks completely different without Hicks on the field and no one is making the impact.  I understand the offense is a mess, but a great defense should be able to lock down a team with a back-up QB and one main option at receiver.  Lack of pressure and lack of turnovers being created.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 21, 2019, 07:42:23 am
I agree with Griz, the D is just as much to blame, they gave up 36 pts yesterday.  Ok, Hicks is a big part of the line, but still where was Fuller or Eddie Jackson or Dix or Roquan making plays?  Um, they werent.  How many turn overs?  They are dogging it on D.  Not sure if that is on Pagano or what.  How many times was Bridgewater hit/rushed/sacked yesterday?  And I hate to say it, but  Mack had a second quiet game in a row.  Maybe he is hurt, who knows. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 21, 2019, 07:52:52 am
Oh and dont forget the Saints were without Kamara, Brees and Cook. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 21, 2019, 07:59:50 am
Well, that was not totally suprising considering the vibes since the Raiders game.....

Team was on a knife edge of either getting back its mojo or falling off a cliff. Looks like the cliff won....

I knew they were in trouble when Nagy had Cohen run up the middle on the 1st offensive play of the game. And Nagy says he self-scouted over the bye. Now that's a double load horseshit for sure......

Historical note: Only the Bears could trade UP to get the worst of the QBs that (at least 2 of the 3) would've been there with their next pick regardless...

Seen enough of Miller and Cohen. Think where they would be offensively without Robinson (They would be the 1st team to offensive rank 33rd in a 32 team league  ;D)

Bears have a motivational coach not a Head coach leading this team. Not sure he can get it turned around. Bad vibes coming out of Halas Hall.....

They will win a few more games this season but in the end will fail.... like 31 other teams to not win the SB :D

Each season is a story and as usual, the Bears season is a tragic-comic drama....



Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on October 21, 2019, 08:19:21 am
Yesterday was a train wreck. Like Humpty Dumpty who had a great fall, my big question is can all the pieces be put back together again?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 21, 2019, 10:51:29 am
Only 7 rushes???? always = LOSS

We have no run game. We have like 3rd string runningbacks......it's horrific. If Montgomery were on another team he would have been cut. Mike Davis is horrible and Cohn is smurf wide receiver.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on October 21, 2019, 01:12:36 pm

Not much to add.  I was fearful that the Saint' offensive line could be the difference in the game, even with Brees and Kamara out.   I know we're down on the D but offense had so many 3 and outs, they get tired and disillusioned.

The plays that really killed us on defense were the Bridgewater scrambles where he just barely picked up 1st downs. 

Our defensive backfield is somewhat overrated.  They look good with a solid pass rush but when left on their own they get exposed.  Has Eddie Jackson made a play this year? 

Offensively, the run/pass ratio is out of whack.  Nagy gave up on it way too early, probably after the Montgomery fumble (which they didn't score on after the missed field goal). 

Here's some receiving stats:  Taylor Gabriel  1 for 6    Trey Burton 2 for 11  Tarik  Cohen 9 for 19
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 21, 2019, 01:26:55 pm
I think Eddie Jackson read that he is some all pro S, and it has gone to his head.  Dude, put it on the field, not in some article. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 21, 2019, 02:10:54 pm
Yep - that long pass to Ginn never should have happened. Broke the game.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on October 21, 2019, 03:21:43 pm
I remember on 2nd and 2 thinking, line up heavy and either pound it here(and 3rd down) or do a PA to loosen things up and they didn’t convert.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 21, 2019, 07:03:30 pm
What about, I think it was 3rd and 2, empty fukking backfield.. We can't run for 2 yards? WTF?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 21, 2019, 07:45:42 pm
Nagy is absolute garbage.  Get rid of him!  I know it's hard to admit a mistake, but come the **** on!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 11:33:51 am
I'm going out on a limb here ....Bears over Chargers, 17-13.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 27, 2019, 11:52:07 am
This is a make or break game.. Lose and the season is pretty much over, win and the team can at least act like things are better.. Unless Rogers gets hurt there is no way of catching the pack (unless they just fall apart, don't count on it). The Bears are playing for a wild card.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 27, 2019, 11:55:56 am
I see Bradshaw picked the Chargers.. Not that Bradshaw is anyone special, but wow.. I really feel that the bears should win this..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 12:02:14 pm
You would think the Bears should take this game handily, but rational thought says I see no reason why the Bears suddenly 'get it' with the blocking, passing, run game. They easily could lose this game.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 12:20:18 pm
Out of the I we get 10 yards on the ground, out of the shotgun about 2 a carry ever since.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 12:21:31 pm
No holes for the run game at all.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 12:22:49 pm
Same inept crap. Can't run block, stupid idiotic play calls.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 12:23:51 pm
There we go.  That was what we have been missing those intermediate throws.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 12:24:29 pm
A delay run with a line that cannot run block....doh....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 12:26:35 pm
And he misses.

****!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 12:26:48 pm
Of course now we got a doink, so now the kicker goes south  ::)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on October 27, 2019, 12:29:26 pm
If they can't beat the Chargers then it's looking like a 5-win team.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 12:31:12 pm
INT!

Let's get 7 here.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 12:32:34 pm
WHY the H are they using a wideout at RB??? I just don't get that....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on October 27, 2019, 12:39:00 pm
They may not have scored a touchdown, but at least they got a choreographed dance in.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 12:51:11 pm
Just awful, pathetic offense. Trubisky just ain't seeing the field.....again...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 12:53:17 pm
They're going to have to get a QB if they want to compete this year. He isn't cutting it. He keeps throwing into tight coverage and has almost had a couple ints already.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 12:56:43 pm
It is more then just Trubisky although he doesn't see the field well.

The line sucks.  the WR's aren't getting separation.

The play calling isn't all that either.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 12:59:28 pm
Nice run!  Where is the flag for 15 more?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 01:00:44 pm
There we go!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 01:01:53 pm
I absolutely hate these sideline routes. Get the ball downfield!!! Quit throwing across the dang field!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 01:04:55 pm
BOOOOOO!!!!  >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 01:05:46 pm
Got to score TD's.  Rivers is going to get going at some point.  Field goals will not cut it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 01:07:58 pm
Trubiskys confidence is gone and the staffs confidence in him is gone. We're going to see more of this until he is replaced...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 27, 2019, 01:09:19 pm
This is pathetic!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 01:11:21 pm
And here we go....just like you said Peke.... >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 01:12:00 pm
And just like that we are losing.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 27, 2019, 01:12:41 pm
Yep, so much for the lead..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 01:17:28 pm
Montgomery!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 01:17:46 pm
That is how you run block!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 01:19:12 pm
Wouldn't surprise me if this is where Tru throws a int....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 01:21:38 pm
Got a break with the flag.  First down!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 01:25:57 pm
Ya gotta be kidding me....THROWING the friggin ball with him?!? RUN it!!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 01:26:51 pm
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! What a fricking CLOWN car!!!!!   >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 01:27:00 pm
Keystone Kops Bullshit right there!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on October 27, 2019, 01:28:42 pm
They just scraped out a new bottom
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 01:28:46 pm
This teams in real serious trouble here. They don't have a clue what they're doing on offense. Forget the playoffs, ain't happenin'. It'll be a wonder if they finish near 500!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 27, 2019, 01:29:19 pm
This is Dick Jauron bad!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on October 27, 2019, 01:30:05 pm
The Stone Age called--they want their offense back.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 27, 2019, 01:33:33 pm
Roquan Smith on that one 10 yard catch actually tackled the guy with the ball for the first down, and on the TD he did the same thing.  Um, dude try and drive the guy with the ball BACKWARDS!!! 

As far as the O, sad, really sad.  Nagy is trying to get too cute, and frankly he is a moron.  Try and do the simple stuff, and do it correctly.  Glad to see Montgomery at least get some runs, he is all that is working.  3 possessions inside the 10 two inside the 5 and we cant score a TD?  And that clown car last play, they are lucky they even got the FG off.  This is pathetic.  If we lose today, the entire season is over. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 27, 2019, 01:41:18 pm
Without a doubt, Matt Nagy is the worst head coach in Chicago Bears history.

Is he the worst head coach in NFL history?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 01:48:55 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 01:49:18 pm
Line up in the I formation and run it down their throat.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 01:49:35 pm
Nagy is a slow learner but he finally learned to run the damn ball.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 01:52:45 pm
They finally figured out Montgomery is on the team  ::)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 01:55:14 pm
So now the D is going to fall apart. 

Here is a clue he is going to Henry.  You might want to cover him.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 01:58:24 pm
Where is the pass rush?  Rivers has all day.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 27, 2019, 02:03:56 pm
Rivers is a statue and they can't touch him
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 02:13:09 pm
And Trubisky throws an interception.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on October 27, 2019, 02:13:30 pm
WTH?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 02:14:53 pm
Why weren't we doing what we did on the first drive until they could prove they could stop it?  Line up and play smash mouth football.

But no back to the shotgun.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 02:19:15 pm
Thankfully the Chargers are more inept than the Bears.....might just get a win.... ::)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 27, 2019, 02:19:29 pm
Catching a LOT of breaks.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on October 27, 2019, 02:19:37 pm
Bears getting every break imaginable today and still haven't put the game away.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 02:19:53 pm
We really dodged a bullet there.  they should of had 7 and they come away with nothing.

Now Nagy I formation heavy package and run the damn ball.

Then PA Pass off of it.  They had no answer for that.  Until they prove they do keep doing it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 02:22:59 pm
Over throws a wide open receiver.   
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 02:24:28 pm
And Trubisky just drops it and loses the ball.

Both these teams suck ass!

This season is over win or lose.  But they are going to lose.

WTF?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on October 27, 2019, 02:24:57 pm
Starting to think Mitch is a double agent.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 27, 2019, 02:25:53 pm
Really bad!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 02:27:06 pm
He ran backwards why give him forward progress?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 02:29:18 pm
And Bears still going to lose this toilet bowl.... ::)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 02:30:10 pm
They are going to run Trubisky out of town if they lose.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 02:41:47 pm
Losers!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 02:42:31 pm
Bears will be last place after this loss.

Pissed this one away along with the season.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on October 27, 2019, 02:43:37 pm
Massie has had a tough day dealing with Bosa.

Wearing cement shoes hasn’t helped...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 02:47:15 pm
Would love to know how they went from a solid playoff team to this.  >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 27, 2019, 02:53:07 pm
Would love to know how they went from a solid playoff team to this.  >:(

Nagy.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 02:56:12 pm
Not sure I agree with this.

He has already missed one.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 02:56:54 pm
I don't agree with it. Think they should have gotten closer, but their confidence in Tru is pretty much gone
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 02:57:27 pm
What a fitting ending.... >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 02:57:42 pm
Nagy is retarded.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 02:58:45 pm
Even if they had won it would have felt like a loss.

This team is done stick a fork in them.

Time to go do yardwork.  It will be more fun then watching this game was.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 27, 2019, 03:00:34 pm
I'm not nearly as frustrated with a bad Bears team doing this but this was a GOOD team that went 12-4 last season and now? 4-12?? They sure as hell are playing like it! Should this put Nagy on a very hot seat?? I sure think so and Pace as well!  >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on October 27, 2019, 03:03:05 pm
Just don’t waste a pick on trading for another QB...it won’t make any difference...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 27, 2019, 03:04:55 pm
Well that was the season right there.  They were in such a hole behind the Fudge Pack and Vikes, just forget about it.  I am numb and dont really care right now.  Turdbisky can catch the next box car out of town.  INT and FUMBLE in the 4th, seriously?  And why did genius Nagy go away from the run, that worked SOOOOO well to start the 3rd???  He can go too.  I guess there is always the draft and next year.  Now I know how it feels to be a Cubs fan. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 27, 2019, 03:06:01 pm
Oh, and who on that last SD TD covered the WR and dragged him into the endzone?  Yep Roquan.  Cant wait to see the tape never lies on this game.  Massie, you can hitch a ride with Mitch and Nagy. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on October 27, 2019, 03:19:29 pm
Pretty low bar to suggest the run worked today. On the 37 carries outside of Montgomery's 55-yard burst, the Bears averaged 2.9 per attempt.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 27, 2019, 03:19:50 pm
Season is over.. WTF? I really thought we would contend for the division.. This is terrible! Why when there is urgency Mitch seems to play better, start of the game he looks confused.. Unreal..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 27, 2019, 03:20:22 pm
Pace should be trying to trade players for draft picks.  Tarik Cohen please, along with Leonard Floyd, Trey Burton, maybe Nagy and Mitch.  Seriously I would start dumping people if I was Pace, try and get some extra draft picks, cause we are going to need all the help we can get.  Just suucks that we now have nothing to play for and our franchise qb is a piece of shiit.  That overthow of Gabriel that should have been a td, come on man, no excuse.  Turdbisky needs to go, asap. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on October 27, 2019, 03:22:04 pm
The Bears ran 35 more plays, had 15 more first downs, possessed the ball 16 more minutes, and still lost.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 27, 2019, 03:22:19 pm
We had a sliver of a chance at the second wild card spot before today.  Now we are doomed to a crappy draft pick in the middle, no first round pick.  The only thing we MIGHT have going for us is to play spoiler to GB or MN in our second games.  I hate playing spoiler.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on October 27, 2019, 03:26:46 pm
Forgot the Bears don't have a first-round pick again. So all the losing will be for nothing.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 27, 2019, 04:59:33 pm
They have 2 second rounders.

The mocks so far have Jake Fromm there for us.

He seems to have the qualities Mitch lacks.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: joki13 on October 27, 2019, 05:35:55 pm
 Good teams find ways of winning,bad teams find ways of losing.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on October 27, 2019, 05:44:24 pm
My thoughts on the game:

Coward was bad.  Multiple penalties and missed assignments.  I hope Larsen is healthy or Bars is ready.

Mitch looked like an NFL quality quarterback.  Not a good one, but he was adequate.  He can't throw the deep ball, he'll never be a decent starter until he can.  His decision making was better and he didn't look like he was playing scared.  My fear is that now that the high expectations are gone he'll play just well enough to convince Pace and Nagy that they should give him another year.

Massie got beat when it counted.  They need to start looking for his and Leno's replacement next year.

Coverage wasn't good.  Pass rush wasn't good.  Chargers recievers helped the bears out with some timely drops.

Bears might get a 4th round pick by cutting Davis.  Time to make that move.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on October 27, 2019, 05:54:42 pm
yes, if we save a draft pick cut Davis.

Bears got 1 sack today. Pass rush has evaporated.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on October 27, 2019, 06:23:02 pm
looking at the highlights I noticed one play - a handoff to Cohan where he was hit almost before he got the ball. Reviewing the play it looked like Whitehair didn't know what the play was & Leno just decided to take the play off. Really weird.

Thought the biggest play was the Trubisky fumble, looked like he just dropped the ball without being hit.

Not having a TE hurts. Not having a fullback hurts the short yardage plays.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 27, 2019, 06:46:36 pm
I really think Pace should be on the hot seat.

He has had what 5 years now?  Last year it looked like he had us on the right track.  However this season has been bad, really really bad.  Its his hand picked coaching staff and his draft picks.  If he just stays the course for the rest of the season and into next season and we stink next year early on.  Ownership better fire the whole darn crew.

I really hate changing GM's because it really does signal a true start over.  So IMO Pace has some tough work to do fast.   He needs to figure out what is so wrong and how to fix it.  If that means firing the whole coaching staff, I think that he should do it.  Problem is you better have someone great that you can recruit.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on October 27, 2019, 06:56:24 pm
I know a QB on Indy’s practice squad that can make those long throws...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on October 27, 2019, 06:59:06 pm
I see we are now 3-4. Couldnt watch today. New system and not knowing where certain channels were
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 27, 2019, 07:05:19 pm
The Bears ran 35 more plays, had 15 more first downs, possessed the ball 16 more minutes, and still lost.

That's pathetic!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 07:09:25 pm
Wanny bad!

It is like they are finding new ways to lose.

The Chargers are not a good team. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 27, 2019, 07:12:05 pm
I'm so tired of my football team sucking as$! Year after year... When was the last time this team had a real QB? One that you could count on season after season. I don't think we've had one in my lifetime..

What the fukk has happened to Cohen?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 27, 2019, 08:08:41 pm
Cohen thinks he can run sideways and get by everybody which works in college but not so often in the NFL.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: joki13 on October 27, 2019, 08:13:50 pm
Chifan is exactly right.We have never enjoyed having a true franchise QB in our lifetimes. I started following the Bears in 1966. That is pathetic. Let's hire a true QB evaluator as a GM. We could have had Mahommes,instead we trade multiple draft picks to draft a guy who only started one year at the college level. And the tape was not all that inspiring.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 27, 2019, 08:16:32 pm
What should actually happen - but, for obvious reasons never will - is that the Chicago Bears franchise should be contracted.

It is simply not a viable enterprise.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on October 27, 2019, 08:51:54 pm
Watching the Chiefs/Packers game.  We supposedly run the same offense as the Chiefs.

I have seen some amazing designed plays from the Matt Moore led Chiefs.  Where did that creativity go from the Bears offense?

If it is because our players aren't executing then why not?  Why haven't they been coached up to execute?  I am as upset as everyone else but I am not ready to fire Nagy, Pace and dump Trubisky and start all over again.

Might as well try and get **** fixed this season so we are ready to roll next season.  How do they do that though?

Where are the designed roll outs we had last year?  It buys time and let's the defense expand which allows the dump offs to go for big yards.  Right now the dump offs aren't getting anything.  another option is having the tackle line up wide this tends to make the DE go inside.  When he does Trubisky would have time to move to his right with lot's of time.  The Pckers do this all the time with Rodgers especially when he needs to go deep.

I think we need Trubisky under center a lot more.  I am not saying no shotguns but let's get it closer to 50% of the time.  Like keeping the run/pass ratio near 50% I believe under center and in shotgun should be the same.  It gives the defense more to prepare for and worry about.

I don't want Patterson lined up as a RB.  If you want him to run the ball do it from the WR position.  He should only be lined up at RB if we have lost two RB's and need the help.


Add a few plays a game the defense hasn't seen to keep them honest.  I feel like the offense is way to predictable right now.

Coach our players to get up the field.  I hate that our offensive players seem to always either have to go down to the ground to get the ball or jump for it.  We rarely see them catch it in stride and when we do they run east and west instead of north/south.

Slant, slants and more slants.  It is a staple play because it is a high percentage successful play.

Anyone else have any thoughts besides fire everyone?  :)



Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on October 27, 2019, 08:59:28 pm
Matt Nagy has no business on a NFL sideline.  He is altogether incompetent.  He MUST be fired immediately.

Ryan Pace has shown the ability to identify and acquire talent.  He should stay.

Mitchell Trubisky is an extremely talented and extremely inexperienced quarterback.  He should stay and be developed with a legitimate NFL head coach and a quality offensive line.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on October 27, 2019, 09:01:31 pm
2017 Draft Bears 2nd round 45th pick - Adam Shaheen from some unknown college.

2017 Draft 5th round 146th pick - George Kittle from Iowa.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 28, 2019, 05:40:40 am
This is almost the season we should have had last season.  Quarterback taking his lumps, Nagy making a bonehead decision that costs the game.  Last season went too smooth.  For all his flaws, Trubisky led the team down the field again to put the team in place for the win, and kicker shanks it.  Overall, this was a much better balance though as Pekin points out, many of our plays were easily diagnosed.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 28, 2019, 06:43:15 am
Just completely disgusted with this team, beyond disgusted. From 12-4 to this mess  >:( That being said....
Quote
  Where are the designed roll outs we had last year? 
Exactly what I was saying. They keep going into shotgun and it's not helping Mitch. He needs to roll out where his mobility can be used.
They need to ditch the ignorant receiver in the backfield garbage, it ain't working.
Trubisky is turning into Grossman. Too many turnovers, and stupid ones. He also is not seeing the open receivers well. And they are getting open.
Nagy's terrible play calling hurts the team. Stop with the sideline routes already! Push the ball downfield! And on the friggin goalline, get UNDER the center with a RB in the backfield and that allows the RB to get some steam. Shotgun is ridiculous here, especially with a empty backfield. Just baffling goal line nonsense. On one attempt, two recievers didn't run a route, one did. That leaves two options, one reciever running one route...and Trubisky, running it. Stupid play calls result in losses.
Letting the clock run out is Trestman part two. Or Wanny 'line up for the FG' crap. Dumb and dumber ****.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 28, 2019, 06:53:08 am
And not to pile on, but Trubisky has been throwing down low, almost into the dirt.  Hit the WR in stride so he can get some YAC.

And sorry to say but Mack was kind of absent yesterday again.  I think he has checked out mentally, and isnt buying into the program any more.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on October 28, 2019, 07:35:34 am
And yet all these guys make a lot of money to do this - I would start docking their pay
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 28, 2019, 07:39:30 am
To unfortunately quote Porky Pig "thats a a a a all Folks".....

We can **** on the D but they gave up only enough points that with a competent NFLoffense would have made this a Bears win. (you hold a team under 20 points in a league where the average per game score is generally over that)....

Enough Cohen side to side. Enough with Patterson at RB (and why the **** is he always running out of the endzone on kickoffs ? This Offense is so putrid that 5 yard difference between the 20 and 25 is magnified)......

Fire Helfrich, Tabor, Heistand and move on. Especially the Hiestand. The Oline is a joke and only keeps getting worse. He was supposed to be a good Oline coach. WTH happened to him ?

Ditch the RPO. Trubisky is too stupid (or slow mentally) to run it. The Oline is too incompetent to block for it. Run max protect every play and run/pass from it. Results couldn't be much worse....

Dump useless players (Shaheen, Davis) and try someone (anyone) from the practice squad. Hell, one of those electronic remote dummies they use for practice would be better than either of those 2 stiffs.

Two questions I'd have liked to as Nagy after the game:

"Was it an option to run up the middle with no timeouts just before the end of the 1st half ? And if so WHY was it even an option ?"

"Why with a TO in your pocket do you take a knee at the end of the game for the FG attempt when you can instead run that stupid play you ran at the end of the 1st half and at least gain 1/2 yard ?"

Oh and check the drinking water coming into Halas Hall for heavy metals........
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 28, 2019, 08:38:03 am
Heistand def has to go. This line is simply terrible and it ain't improving. And I agree on the other firings as well. There has to be accountability with a mess like this.
Also agree with the RPO. Yesterday was exhibit one on that having to go. Almost had a turnover attempting it on one go.
Cohen has been a mess as well. How many times is this kid going to catch a kicked ball inside the 10yrd line? He didn't do it yesterday but has all season long. And his sideline to sideline runs instead of north/south show a lack of coaching and accountability. Try that with Belichick and your butt would be riding the pine for a week or more.
I'm just going to keep agreeing with you on Shaheen and Davis, both of whom are worthless. Shaheen was a terrible waste of a pick from the get go. You NEVER get a 'project' with a 2nd round pick! This is where you get someone who can immediately help the team. Another blown pick from Pace.
And Nagys play calling is most definitely suspect.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 28, 2019, 09:19:03 am
Unfortunately there's still half a season of despair and disappointment to go......

It seems for the last few years that when the Bears lose all the other teams in the Division get wins. There is a curse on this franchise. Bad mojo. Bad voodoo.....

To take a look at where this franchise has gone since winning SB 20, all you have to do is look at the goddamn Patriots. It may be blasphemy but If we could go back in time and take a blow out loss for the sustained success they've had since then (some ups and downs but more ups that us) I'd take that in a skinny minute....

But I'll watch this train wreck as it augers into the ground after falling off the bridge....

I must be a masochist :D
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 28, 2019, 11:26:02 am
I understand why Nagy let the clock run at the end of the game rather than trying to get a few more yards. This was a 43 yarder, obviously not a gimme. Why not (as someone already mentioned) run the same stupid play you ran at the end of the first half, or anything, never know, maybe get another 5 yards. Of course, Pineiro missed a 32 yarder earlier.. Fukking train wreck... Meanwhile, Packers are 7-1.. Fukk!!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on October 28, 2019, 11:49:35 am
Wasn’t Heistand our Oline coach a few years ago when our line was pretty good? Seems like he took Olin Kreutz, John Tait and a bunch of nobodies and that team ended up in the Super Bowl. Wasn’t our oline pretty good last year? Something like 2 pro bowlers? The first time we had two pro bowl oline members since.....2006 when he was here last time.

I cannot understand how you take an offense that should be better than it was a year ago and stink this bad. Heistand swapped 2 guys to their more natural positions and Long is on IR like he has been like the past 4 seasons.

Maybe Daniels just can’t pick up the reads or something like Whitehair could, I dunno but they shouldn’t be this bad.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 28, 2019, 12:49:23 pm
Maybe they should put Whitehair back at center. I'd give it a shot, heck, at this point. Right now that line is a dumpster fire with no direction or evidently blocking skills or assignments. They ran blocked better yesterday but they could not get the ball in on a poor run defense team at the goal line. Inexcusable.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on October 28, 2019, 01:32:43 pm
Quote
Cohen has been a mess as well. How many times is this kid going to catch a kicked ball inside the 10yrd line? He didn't do it yesterday but has all season long.

Yes he did.  He caught one at the 2 yard line and ran it back to the 30 or something like that.  That is probably why you don't remember.  Patterson keeps running kickoffs out of the endzone as well.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on October 28, 2019, 01:34:59 pm
Here it was...

Punt
(12:42) (Punt formation) T.Long punts 54 yards to CHI 2, Center-C.Mazza. T.Cohen to CHI 26 for 24 yards (B.Facyson).
4th & 3 at LAC 44
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on October 28, 2019, 01:50:38 pm
watched parts, simply a chamber of horrors. The bear is off the rails and ain't getting back.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 29, 2019, 08:42:59 am
I think the thing that hurts this time around is there is no benefit to losing. They don't have a first round pick, so losing helps nothing. So not only are they losing but there's no benefit to it. What a mess this team is....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 30, 2019, 06:23:47 am
This team is not bereft of talent, unlike former Bear's teams.  The defense is missing Hicks, perhaps the scheme is just a bit passive or at a minimum, I don't see Eddie Jackson on the screen because he is 20 yards off the line of scrimmage.  The offensive mess starts with Nagy, and his stubbornness to play his brand of football and not taking the pieces he has and making those work.  Mitch is flawed, but as he showed this past Sunday, he can make the throws.  All QB's miss throws, and the long ball was critical, but watch any game and you will see QBs missing throws. Mitch shows flashes.  It is Nagy's job to turn that into consistency and throw out the library.

Now is the time to grind.  Go 1-0.  Then try to go 1=0 again.  I am not saying a miracle is in this team, but this isn't like watching the hapless teams of Trestman before we took the field.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on October 30, 2019, 06:31:14 am
Grizz,

I agree.  This team can win where others just couldn't.  They just have to start doing it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on October 30, 2019, 06:40:40 am
That's just the thing, though....how does this get turned around?? It isn't a dearth of talent, it's....I don't know what's causing this honestly. Attitude or lack of? Laziness? What causes a offensive line to suddenly look like the keystone kops, blocking themselves instead of the opponent?? How does Trubisky end up playing worse and not improving?? Why does Nagy call stupid play calls at the worst times?? It just seems like they're going through the motions out there. It's baffling. We're supposed to have a offensive line mastermind in Heistand. Where is he and why isn't his line playing right?? I just don't get this....  One thing I would try, though, is putting the line back to where it was last season, with Whitehair under center. Maybe the center is calling the wrong scheme. Somethings gotta change here...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on October 30, 2019, 08:15:58 am
I really think that this falls on Nagy.  His play calling stinks.  Look at that third quarter TD drive.  9 out of 13 plays run from the I formation.  TD.  Did you see all 5 OL surround Nagy after the TD and tell him to keep it up?  Then what did he do?  No I formation, and run from shotgun.  Dude, try not to get cute, dont try and force the players to do what they dont do well.  They get pisssed off, and stop trying, and when the O is ineffective, the D senses it and they stop trying.  Look at Macks production the last 3 games.  And Eddie Jackson who has been invisible.  Just call the plays the players can execute, and dont get all cutesy with Santas Sleigh and all that other craap. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on October 30, 2019, 09:55:56 am
I would like to see an experienced NFL offensive coordinator.

Helfrich has no experience and maybe that's one reason he was hired.....a college innovative guy who can't challenge the inexperienced Nagy.  Defenses are all over this offense and they don't know how to counter that
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on October 30, 2019, 01:24:47 pm
San Diego couldn't stop the run. Nagy's play calling at the end horrific.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 30, 2019, 07:24:41 pm
And running the ball, builds the offensive line's confidence.  The majority of the blame falls at Nagy's feet, and he needs to self scout and improve.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on October 30, 2019, 07:25:13 pm
What does the play calling tell you regarding the confidence level the coaching staff has in it's players..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 30, 2019, 07:30:49 pm
Agreed, but I think it says more to me that Nagy has it in his mind of how it should work.  He may go to his coaching grave if he doesn't figure it out and coach this team to win and do what they do best.  You don't take the ingredients to make a chocolate cake and use them to prepare a western omelet.  The I formation was working.  Your line loves it, and your qb looks more comfortable.  You score a td and then you go away from it.  You try to make a western omelet.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 30, 2019, 07:50:44 pm
I think Nagy gets stuck on wanting to be an offensive genius instead of wanting to be a winning coach.  Winning coaches are the ones with legacy.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on October 30, 2019, 11:43:46 pm
So, Nagy doesn’t want to be a higher paid Head Coach?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on October 31, 2019, 11:24:42 am
Not that he deserves it, or until he does.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on October 31, 2019, 11:35:43 am
Yeah but the Bears arent going to finish 9-0:

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2019/10/30/bears-three-causes-for-optimism-2019/

3. There are still 9 games remaining The odds of that are about a trillion to one.

That will be blown Sunday. I'd be shocked if it didnt
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 01, 2019, 07:26:41 am
Actually I think they will play hard but commit too many stupid mistakes (both players and coaches) to win the game. The Bears are in a perfect super-shitstorm of incompetent coaching and under-acheiving players at the moment. Its only a matter of time before the levy breaks *cue Led Zepplin*.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 01, 2019, 08:17:15 am
I will be watching Trey Burton closely.  The last time we played his former team, he refused to play, and has not really lived up to anything since. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 01, 2019, 01:44:54 pm
Guess who is on the injury report with a groin injury?  Yep, my guy Trey Burton.  Did I not call that?  Total mental basket case piece of shiit.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 01, 2019, 02:06:01 pm
Guess who is on the injury report with a groin injury?  Yep, my guy Trey Burton.  Did I not call that?  Total mental basket case piece of shiit.

He's had a pulled groin for weeks nothing new.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on November 01, 2019, 07:08:14 pm
Philly 31

Bears 13
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on November 03, 2019, 12:05:13 pm
I’m expecting the wheels to come off today...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 12:06:23 pm
The 2nd down play had no chance.  Then a terrible throw on Third down.

Yet another three and out...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 12:08:13 pm
Not sure about that PI call.

Of course Howard is going to have a big game.

This is going to get ugly quick.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 12:11:27 pm
That wasn't a natural pick.  That was an illegal pick that wasn't called.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 12:20:40 pm
How does this offense just keep getting worse and worse?

Another three and out.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on November 03, 2019, 12:22:36 pm
It’s just ugly
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 12:32:57 pm
Has Trubisky been released yet?

Dumping off again?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 12:35:19 pm
The refereeing is just terrible this year. That was not pass interference on Fuller.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 12:36:46 pm
Trubisky is afraid to throw downfield. He is a headcase.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on November 03, 2019, 12:37:22 pm
Bears got out-gained 122 to -1 in the 1st. They had the ball for less than 3 minutes, committed three penalties, and had zero first downs.

And the worst part is the Bears will get no reward in the draft for being this awful.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 12:37:44 pm
Last comment - Roquan Smith looks terrible again
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 12:37:59 pm
Bears have been offsides what 5 times already?  Geez!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 03, 2019, 12:41:06 pm
Undisciplined lack of focus and passion. A qb lost and regressing. I'm quickly losing faith in Nagy.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 03, 2019, 12:41:13 pm
This is the most poorly coached football team I've ever seen.

I wouldn't hire Nagy to coach a high school team.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 12:42:39 pm
This is putrid!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 12:45:57 pm
Trubisky refuses to throw down field.

Get Trubuisky out of there. At least Daniels will open it up
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on November 03, 2019, 12:53:03 pm
It’s like Nagy’s play call is going into both huddles
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 12:53:30 pm
Stop jumping offsides DUMBFUCKS!!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 03, 2019, 12:53:50 pm
Trubisky needs pulled immediately. This guy absolutely sucks! Packers fired their coach midseason, Nagy is getting dang close the way this team is playing. Horrific
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 12:55:28 pm
Agreed....just HORRIFIC coaching. Some of this stuff should have been fixed in pre-season.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: method on November 03, 2019, 12:56:43 pm
Turbiskey looks like a player that has lost all confidence in himself. Its time to bench him for a bit for his own good.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 12:58:38 pm
Are you shitting me?  He flopped but you have to be smarter then that.  The ball was long gone!

This is a huge stinking pile of ****!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 01:00:50 pm
WTF?  It was hands to the face and a push off.  How do you pick that flag up?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 01:01:31 pm
Ertz pushed off AND hands to the face....just terrible calls.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 01:01:51 pm
The Bears suck but to pick up that flag is just piling on.

Come on!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 03, 2019, 01:02:05 pm
That was a penalty on Ertz pushing the defender in the face.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 03, 2019, 01:03:58 pm
It shouldn’t have come to that...the play clock had run out on the 4th down play where the roughing the passer was called...should have been offsetting penalties at worst...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 03, 2019, 01:04:34 pm
Couldn’t we have challenged the non-OPI call?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 03, 2019, 01:04:39 pm
A loss like this will demand changes but will this f'ing stupid team do anything about this?? And yeah I said F. What I'm thinking about this team right now is worse. Not happy with this in the least.😡😡😡
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 01:06:57 pm
EIGHT penalties so far. HORRIFIC. That lackadaisical pre-season has been showing.

We have seen this before in Trestman.

Another dump off.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on November 03, 2019, 01:08:43 pm
Has any team failed to get a 1st down in game?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 01:09:08 pm
They can not do anything right?  He has time and Trubisky delivers the ball for what should of been a first down and Robinson steps out of bounds.  WTF?


Everyone taking turns **** up!  The penalties, the time of possession.  Not a single first down by the offense.

This is a DUMPSTER FIRE!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 01:09:24 pm
WHY wouldn't you challenge that catch?? Nagy is quickly becoming an IDIOT.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 03, 2019, 01:10:18 pm
It wasn't even close to a catch.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 03, 2019, 01:10:18 pm
Put me solidly in the fire Nagy camp. This is his mess that isn't getting fixed but it's getting worse and it's more than just Tru.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 03, 2019, 01:12:42 pm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191103/ac8761aa7498b89ec59d7037ca7b8bca.jpg)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 03, 2019, 01:13:39 pm
Has any team failed to get a 1st down in game?

Yes, but it hasn't happened since 1966.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 03, 2019, 01:15:36 pm
The bad thing about this. The Bears have a track record of hanging on to coaches too long. I bet we have to witness this garbage again next season..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 01:17:52 pm
Does Nagy understand Trubisky is not a pocket passer
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on November 03, 2019, 01:26:07 pm
1st downs!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 03, 2019, 01:27:30 pm
Anyone explain why this QB is still in??? Anyone???
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 01:29:54 pm
That was offensive pass interference.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 03, 2019, 01:37:16 pm
Ok the roughing the passer call was BS, and no OPI on Ertz TD was worse.  He had his hand of FUllers facemask AND pushed off.  I thought we were playing the fudge Pack for a minute, as the refs seem to want the Eagles to win.  No not want, DO want them to win.  Trubisky sucks hard, but the OL is just horrific, and Nagy the brilliant mind, is just as bad.  Oh and the overthrow pass to Cohen?  Yeah the shortest guy on the team.  And can we cut Cohen, as I am done with his bs, all around.  This is going to be a loss, and the team has quit on Nagy and his rah rah bs, and frankly Pagano has lost the D.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 01:51:45 pm
Can we bring Fox back?   LOL!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 03, 2019, 01:53:47 pm
This isn't funny in the least. I'm pissed!!  >:( Not watching any more of this ****.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 03, 2019, 01:54:22 pm
Eddie Jackson let's Howard go right by him after he makes the late hit.

Trestman Jr has lost the team.  All the penalties and the lack of effort is players giving up on him.  Pace and Trestman Jr are probably going to stink it up again next year before we can be rid of these clowns.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 01:57:38 pm
Defense goes to **** and then the offense wakes up.  Figures...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 01:58:59 pm
Why is Cohen in there running up the middle again? 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 01:59:45 pm
Montgomery for the TD.

Now let's see if the D can pull their **** together now.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 03, 2019, 01:59:51 pm
Cohen as the single back on the goal line?  C'mon man.  So stupid. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 03, 2019, 02:00:19 pm
They are misusing guys. Cohen, at this point use the guy for trade bait. He's doing absolutely jack for the team. Get a high pick next year for him or something...a 2...whatever.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 02:02:55 pm
You are right Cohen is being misused.  He is a valuable player if used right.  Line him and Montgomery up together in the backfield.  Then you can run inside or outside or send him out for a pass.

You can run Cohen up the middle just not in short yardage situations.  Even then only do it enough to keep the defense honest like once a game or on a draw.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 03, 2019, 02:16:10 pm
If you bring pressure up the middle the bears will always go to sideline routes.  They are so predictable, can't have success this way.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 02:18:07 pm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Trubisky rolls out....good things. Hey Nagy - wake up Mitch is NOT a pocket passer.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 02:18:38 pm
We need to run slant routes. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 02:20:01 pm
Slant routes are easy cheap yardage and the defense has to account for them which opens other things up.  There is a reason they are a staple of the west coast offense.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 02:20:35 pm
Damnit!  Robinson couldn't hold on!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 02:26:22 pm
That is how you use Cohen!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 02:27:10 pm
If they mark it inside the one.  Go big package and give it to Montgomery!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 02:30:28 pm
TD Montgomery!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 02:31:14 pm
Good things happen WHEN you throw the ball downfield.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 02:36:25 pm
Defense just destroyed the Eagles offense on that play!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 03, 2019, 02:36:37 pm
Good to hear other fans boo.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 03, 2019, 02:44:20 pm
Terrible play call, play action doesn't work on 3rd and 9.  Mitch dumping to Shaheen was a garbage decision too.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 02:52:34 pm
Danny Trevathan has had a terrible game. He can't cover anyone & has been blown out on a lot of running plays.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 02:53:17 pm
Bears are going to lose.  You can't play half a game in the NFL and win.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 03, 2019, 03:00:48 pm
Another confused and disinterested performance.  Trestman Jr's team never looks ready to compete this year.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 03:03:22 pm
The Eagles TEs destroyed us. We can't cover a TE.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 03:04:19 pm
Can we fire out special teams coach right **** now and make him find his own way home?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 03:04:50 pm
Fitting end to this shitshow!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 03, 2019, 03:05:00 pm
Lol.  Not even prepared for a squib kick.  Shaheen contributes nothing.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 03:05:27 pm
The temperature just got a lot hotter under Trubisky, Nagy and Pace.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 03, 2019, 03:07:41 pm
The temperature just got a lot hotter under Trubisky, Nagy and Pace.
They all need to go.  I think they'll all be back next year though.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 03, 2019, 03:07:56 pm
Poorly coached team.

Chuck Pagano should be the first to go. Our D has become vanilla. We do not get any turnovers.

Fangio and Lovie Smith's Ds got off the bus forcing turnovers.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 03, 2019, 03:09:10 pm
Our ELITE D is anything but.  Mack invisible today.  Jackson invisible.  Smith invisible.  Turnovers?? Um yeah invisible.  We cant stop anybody when it counts.  That does NOT mean elite.  Average at best.  And yes Trevethan had a bad game. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 03, 2019, 03:12:14 pm
On O, the O line is pretty much horrific.  How many weeks has the Tape Never lies pointed that out?  Oh yeah, every single week.  Cohen, get rid of him all together, sorry.  I have no use for that dude.  And my guy Burton, how did he do today?  Yeah, just like I predicted, NADA, he didnt even get targeted as far as I saw.  They all know he is worthless against the Eagles. 

I am pissed that usually in this case I dont mind rooting for losses, but we dont even get to benefit from it with a first round pick.  I lose Trubisky, Nagy, and Pagano, but that wont happen.  Maybe they sacrifice Pagano after the season, but still you got numbnuts Nagy calling plays on O.  And Heistand?  Yeah I fire him midseason. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 03, 2019, 03:12:37 pm
I agree, I get rid of Pagano right now!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 03, 2019, 03:13:58 pm
Our fukking O is terrible, the D ain't much better. That last drive by Philly.. WTF?? Disgraceful!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 03, 2019, 03:14:18 pm
I guess Mack, Jackson and several other players were reading the clippings on how they were so elite.  Show it in the preseason, then the regular season.  Oh I forgot Shaheen, he needs to go, like tom. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 03, 2019, 03:15:28 pm
Amukura played well today, that was about it.  Our safeties arent making plays like last year, two bad/scared tacklers.  Seems like assignments are being missed, especially with backs and TEs.
They really miss Hicks.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 03, 2019, 03:16:10 pm
I think every single player bought into the Club W bs, along with the superbowl for sure and Mitch MVP bs.  Nice going Nagy for letting that sink in.  Douche bag.  I am kind of ticked.  Oh, and we made Jordan Howard look like Walter Payton.  ANd we got rid of Howard because of why???? Um, yeah, that is on Nagy.  Plain and simple.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 03, 2019, 03:17:56 pm
They practice their endzone dance moves more than playing their positions.....sick of the nonsense. And sick of pathetic football...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 03, 2019, 03:19:32 pm
I told my wife last night, I'm so fukking sick of watching these prikks lose year after year. They'll throw in a decent year once in a while (then lose the first round). Sickening! So tired of it!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on November 03, 2019, 03:23:33 pm
Ed Obradovitch and Dan Hampton are doing post game on WGN.  Ed is positively volcanic
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 03, 2019, 03:24:01 pm
Do you realize this team is about to repeat its 01-02 season? 01', they went 13-3 and won the division. Next season?? 4-12. If the Bears are one thing, it's consistently pathetic.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: joki13 on November 03, 2019, 04:19:25 pm
  I didn't see the game,but,looking at the box score Trubisky threw for 125 yards. WTF. That's Bear's 1960s stats when they hardly ever threw. We have a great defense and a lot more weapons on offense than we did last year. You just need to get them the ball. This basically comes down to management. We've ignored OT for way to long. Pace screwed the pooch on the Trubisky selection. Tell Pace to buy a toupee with some brains!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 03, 2019, 04:28:25 pm
Most of those yards came on one throw.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on November 03, 2019, 04:35:32 pm
v. Packers -- I was white hot livid.  Space high expectations.  The Packers are utter garbage and the Bears let them off the hook.
@ Denver -- Sh*t, that was thrilling...for about 2 minutes and then you realize the offense is in trouble.
@ Redskins -- Trubisky looked somewhat competent, but...I don't know.  Washington was trash with a HC dead man walking
v. Queens -- F*ck yeah, any win against this team is big and the defense was awesome.
@ London -- The last time I was angry about a loss this season.
v. Saints -- Season over.  Unsubscribed most of my Bears podcasts to keep my blood pressure stable lost all remaining hope for Trubisky.  The better team dominated and should have won by 40+
v. Chargers -- Even if the Bears won, you knew this team has been exposed as a non playoff fraud
@ Eagles -- 9 yards at the half.  Is it possible for a team to fire the reigning COY and EOY?

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: joki13 on November 03, 2019, 04:36:12 pm
 In this draft trade way up with a team that's in need of a QB (Cinny or Miami). Trade Trubisky ,Roquan Smith and next year's 1st rounder so we can select Joe Burrow,QB from LSU. I say this cuz a lot of times people think a change of scenery will make a difference.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 03, 2019, 04:50:17 pm
Pace can't admit that he fukked up with the trestman Jr hire and the Trubisky pick.  If he does the right thing and moved on from that garbage combo, he'd be on his way out too.  He can't even admit the Davis mistake and cut the guy for a free 4th rounder.  Even paces late round gems like Jackson and Cohen are actually starting to look like they are one season wonders.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on November 03, 2019, 05:03:41 pm
KC did us a favor today, not that it will help
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 03, 2019, 05:27:35 pm
I don't remember ever seeing a defense stop Rogers the way the chargers are today.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 03, 2019, 07:03:50 pm
I actually feel bad for Nagy.  He's like a white collar criminal who has been sentenced to a maximum security prison.

He doesn't belong there, but he's being violently raped in his ****.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 03, 2019, 07:04:21 pm
Sad thing is it helps us not a whit. Bears are so screwed.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 03, 2019, 07:10:17 pm
Even though Nagy is Pace's cum swallowing blowjob boy, he needs to fire him.

Ryan - there will be other cum drinkers.  Do what is right!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on November 03, 2019, 10:48:17 pm
Seeing Jordan Howard today reminded me of Greg Olsen, Bears got rid of both because they didn't fit the system.

Some organizations never learn anything.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on November 03, 2019, 10:53:35 pm
Another game where Bears get ZERO from the TE position.

I've noticed that Coward falls down a lot, he literally tangles up his feet & goes down. He has a chance to be an average Guard, but I can't see him ever being a Tackle.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 04, 2019, 06:22:45 am
TruBustski for sure is a headcase. But I think is Nagy too. Bears get what they get when they hire a motivational coach instead of a bona-fide NFL coach.....

As the team circles the drain (with a little help from the officiating- which is truly beyond awful and just not in this game) there are so many questions and so few answers to be had....

But hey, look at the bright side... the rest of Division lost today (although none were as pathetic looking offensively).....

Still a long way to go to endure this lost season. Do they continue to auger this baby into the ground or maybe level out somehow ? I don't want to look but its like a train wreck- I just can't look away...


Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 04, 2019, 09:23:49 am
The Packers offense was equally inept...against a much worse defense...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on November 10, 2019, 08:16:26 am
Stafford out, easy W  ;)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 10, 2019, 08:35:34 am
Lol 9-3 Lions.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 10, 2019, 08:54:11 am
If they lose to a Staffordless lions we'll see a riot at Soldiers Field.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 10, 2019, 09:29:08 am
Well, as everyone says.... if they lose to the Stafford-less Loins, all hell is going to break lose for sure at Halas Hall (or at least it should)...........

Keystone cops vs the LoLions. Hell of a game for sure.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2019, 11:02:00 am
Looks like sporty gets his wish...Whitehair and Daniels appear to be switching spots today.

Also, Shaheen is inactive today...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 10, 2019, 11:31:27 am
Shaheen is a waste of a roster spot..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 10, 2019, 11:31:44 am
How are you going to tell Shaheen is inactive today?  Because maybe his uni doesnt get dirty?  Cant be by the Stat line, thats for sure. 

Hoge and Jahns were all over Whitehair moving back to C, lets see if it helps.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 10, 2019, 11:40:40 am
How many times has the Bears made a no name backup QB look all pro? If they lose to the Lions today, the first thing I would do is to fire Pagano..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 12:08:23 pm
WTF is wrong with the defense?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 12:08:45 pm
This is ridiculous!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 10, 2019, 12:12:14 pm
Nichols getting blown off the ball every play.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 10, 2019, 12:12:46 pm
They're lucky the Lions have to settle for a FG.. This D is terrible
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on November 10, 2019, 12:13:27 pm
I guess they are tired from being on the field too long because of the offense.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on November 10, 2019, 12:14:26 pm
Teams can move on this D at will. It’s just that. Nothing to do with the offense being bad.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 10, 2019, 12:18:08 pm
As usual let's run a 2 yard route on 3rd and 4.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 12:18:24 pm
We get 5 yards running out of the I.  So of course we then go RPO and get nothing.  Then throw short of the sticks to high and the receiver bobbles it.

So 3 and out...

This team is a dumpster fire.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 12:22:52 pm
That is a terrible call!

The guy slid at the last possible second and it was really awkward.  BS!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 12:23:38 pm
This defense is terrible!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2019, 12:23:44 pm
That’s a **** horseshit call on Fuller...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2019, 12:24:42 pm
That did not look good for Trevathan’s left arm...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 12:36:07 pm
Trubisky needs to either run or throw it away if everyone is covered.  He can't hold onto the ball like that.

This offense is terrible.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 12:36:46 pm
Why do our receivers always jump to make a catch where there is no reason to leave their feet?

Drives me crazy!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 12:46:29 pm
Massie you dumbfuck!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 12:47:13 pm
WTF?

Trubisky finally delivers a strike in stride for the receiver and he drops it.

This team!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2019, 12:49:21 pm
That last series pretty much summed up the entire season.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 12:53:18 pm
At what point do they consider replacing the coach? This offense isn't even at college level. The entire team has collapsed. This is writing a entirely new chapter and level of embarrassment.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 01:01:31 pm
The snaps have been terrible today.  Now you know why Whitehair was moved to guard.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 01:02:06 pm
Losing at home to the Lions with out Stafford is embarrassing.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2019, 01:02:50 pm
Yeah, snapping ground balls to your QB doesn’t help...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 10, 2019, 01:03:18 pm
This is terrible.. Just awful!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 01:03:25 pm
If this dumpster fire continues the rest of the year you have to fire Nagy don't you?

Maybe even Pace.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 01:04:07 pm
He played center all last season. No excuse for those snaps. Seems like the team is giving up here
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 01:04:18 pm
No flag for holding Mack?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2019, 01:04:44 pm
OMG, where’s the flag?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 01:10:11 pm
That should just about do it....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 01:13:43 pm
Tired of hearing what's their identity. How about just line up and move the ball...28 yards of offense??
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 01:16:10 pm
This has to be the worst offense in the league and I'm guessing by far. Who do they fire to get this changed
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 01:23:35 pm
We found a TE?  Braunaker!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2019, 01:25:04 pm
Braunecker! Nice catch! And nice throw!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 01:25:10 pm
Play guys you might find a gem! Nice play.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 10, 2019, 01:25:30 pm
Trubisky is fine when he just has to play without Nagy in his ear.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 01:25:57 pm
Also nice pass protection there
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 10, 2019, 01:32:23 pm
So the refs have an ax to grind against the Bears.  Multiple bad calls.  And Nagys play calling, bad as well.  When I heard Stafford was out I thought easy win.  It will be anything but.  I have zero confidence in this game.  And their QB is getting rid of the ball quick, but come on man, Mack is just dogging it out there, when he isnt getting held. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 10, 2019, 01:33:57 pm
Oh and those low snaps, that was the problem with WHitehair last year.  We are just cursed.  We need to build the trenches, on BOTH sides of the ball.  And I mean a lot.  And it is too funny that Braunecker got that TD, instead of our stud pass catching TE Burton.  But then again you know how I feel about Burton.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 01:41:35 pm
Notice on that TD throw how Trubisky took his time to get it there. Wasn't a rushed throw. Looked relaxed instead of hurried.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 01:46:39 pm
TD BEARS!

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 01:46:47 pm
I don't know, I think the line is doing better today minus the goofy hiking the ball problem. What do you guys think??
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 01:47:44 pm
LOL!  Then he misses the extra point.

It is always something with this team.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 01:48:44 pm
If Trubisky can consistently make the deep throws he has made today defenses can't just sit on the short passing game.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 01:52:55 pm
Floyd... Seriously??
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2019, 01:54:08 pm
Kwiatkowsi!

Paulie’s kid makes a play!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 01:54:42 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 01:55:02 pm
Where has this been all year?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 01:55:16 pm
Stupid play calling... Stop with the cute garbage and stay with what's worked. Nagy needs to hand over the play call duties
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2019, 01:55:29 pm
Gabriel!

Nice pass and protection, too! Where has this been?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 01:56:55 pm
Nagy need to toss out the cute calls and keep on the pass train that's working. The line is working better with the change.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 02:05:39 pm
Would to see them get the run game going, work on that.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 02:08:26 pm
Nick is really playing well today
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 02:13:32 pm
Wow, McManis is on fire.  He knocked one guy down and almost knocked a second down then made the tackle.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 02:30:50 pm
These refs suck. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 02:39:20 pm
How do they not rule him down?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2019, 02:40:22 pm
You gotta be kidding me...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 02:40:54 pm
Making Driskell look like Brady.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 02:43:03 pm
Mack pulled himself out on that TD. What is up with him?? All that money and not doing jack
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 02:46:53 pm
The tackles are still very much a problem....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 02:54:50 pm
Run blocking still horrendous...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2019, 02:54:54 pm
Our pass rush has been completely non-existent since Hicks got hurt.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 03:03:31 pm
Where is Mack??? 😡
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 03:04:06 pm
Not a catch.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 03:05:55 pm
If this is ruled a catch the refs just gave the Lions another time out.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 03:06:11 pm
These refs suck!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 03:06:46 pm
A sack ends the game here.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 03:07:39 pm
Nagy call a time out.  Let your D rest.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 03:09:45 pm
Finally got a W.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 03:11:23 pm
Finally won one
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 10, 2019, 03:13:19 pm
Man it seemed like we were playing the fudge pack with the refs today.  Are you freaking kidding me?  Of course dumb ass Nagy cant put anything together to run the clock out, and our D just shiit the bed.  AND YES where the HELLL is our gazzillion dollar Mack been?  Like how many games in a row, 5???  He is checked out or hurt or something, and frankly I dont like it.  Happy for a win I guess, but dont have any confidence at all. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 10, 2019, 03:15:03 pm
It would have been nice if Nagy would have continued to build up Mitchs confidence by you know actually calling some stuff that worked in the 4th quarter, but alas he has to prove he is smarter than everyone else, and also totally incompetent.  Jackass.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 10, 2019, 03:24:47 pm
Oline was still bad.  Montgomery is a stud.  Probably the second best weapon they have on offense.  I'd love to see what he could do with a competent offensive line blocking for him.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 10, 2019, 03:29:05 pm
Kwiatkowski was great today.  I can't recall trevathon having as impactful game this year.  I would think trevathon is done for the year, kwit stepping up was huge.  I was wrong on kwit , he is giving us solid play.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 03:32:32 pm
Kwit has definitely improved this year.  However a good TE will abuse him in the passing game.

I really believe a lot of our O-lines problem is the blocking scheme.  They were drafted to be power I run blockers and now they want them zone blocking and they suck at it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 03:48:22 pm
I hope the offense learned something today and turned a corner.  If they can play like they did from the end of the 2nd quarter through the 3rd quarter for all 4 quarters we would have something.

The defenses have stacked the box and sat on the short and underneath routes.  The intermediate to deep throws should be there like they were today.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 10, 2019, 03:50:12 pm
Yeah, kwit is slow so he's always going to struggle in coverage.  But I think he's the best tackler on the team by a wide margin.  I also think he is a good pass rusher from the middle of the field.  Trevathon and Smith get caught up in traffic going up field a lot.  Kwiatkowski bulls into blockers and at the very least collapses the pocket.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 10, 2019, 03:51:37 pm
Yes he is strong and explodes into blockers.  Saw him blow up some blockers a few times today.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 10, 2019, 04:07:06 pm
LOL, blowing up blockers like his family does lizard people!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 10, 2019, 04:23:23 pm
I'm concerned with where has Mack been? What's happened to him?? He has become a non factor in the rush and that is totally opposite of where he was last season.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on November 11, 2019, 07:33:19 am
I can see him scaling down the adrenaline when he gets HELD every play and the refs just look away
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 11, 2019, 08:20:27 am
Mack was also dropping back into coverage again yesterday.  Not sure what is up with that move.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 11, 2019, 11:02:52 am
For me.. Fire Pagano! Now!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 11, 2019, 01:30:35 pm
Yep - I am done with Pagano - he plays soft defense.

Mack is doubled teamed every play
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 17, 2019, 06:56:11 pm
Tonight is a tough call.  I go back and forth between:

Bears 15, Rams 10
Rams 47, Bears 6
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 07:12:36 pm
Totally disgusted with where this team is this season. Rams are going to pound them because of the inept offense of the Bears. This won't be close, Rams by 12....hope I'm wrong but I'm probably not....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 17, 2019, 07:20:13 pm
Tonight is a tough call.  I go back and forth between:

Bears 15, Rams 10
Rams 47, Bears 6

LOL!! I hear ya!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 07:28:19 pm
**** missed it.  Damn it!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 07:28:23 pm
Need a kicker, again..... ::)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on November 17, 2019, 07:31:15 pm
Certainly glad to see that pesky kicking problem solved
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 07:31:46 pm
Bears ball!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 07:32:30 pm
Why do most of our players run for the sidelines.  Get up field damn it!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 07:34:13 pm
Run blocking is just non existent.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 07:36:38 pm
Game is just starting and already a missed FG and a key dropped pass.... ::)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 07:42:38 pm
Bears ball!

Now do something with it this time.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 07:43:19 pm
Well, both teams are good between the 30s  :D  They tend to fall apart the closer they get to it....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 07:46:13 pm
Whitehair and his high snaps.  WTF?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 07:47:19 pm
Should have challenged.  That was a first down he didn't step out.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 07:48:22 pm
So Bears get the first down on the penalty? 

YES!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 07:49:09 pm
These runs, this run blocking, is just horrendous....absolutely nothing there....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 07:50:16 pm
Is there no one on the practice squad that can be brought up to help this line?? I mean anything has to be better!! It's just that bad
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 07:51:46 pm
First down!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 07:54:05 pm
Definitely need a new kicker...this is past pathetic....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 07:54:22 pm
Our receivers are being mauled.  No flags.

**** kicker misses again.  Cut him and leave him there.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on November 17, 2019, 07:56:10 pm
Handcuff that a$shole and leave him in LA.  Go for it or punt the rest of this damn game
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 07:56:44 pm
They will **** this game away.  You can just feel it.  They have been handed every opportunity and have zero points.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 07:58:16 pm
Rams coach sticks with the power running game.  Why can't ours?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 07:59:25 pm
Our run blocking sucks. The line has forgotten how to power off the line and drive block. They finesse it and get blown up....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 08:01:01 pm
Gurley is going to go for 300 yards today.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 17, 2019, 08:01:11 pm
Rams coach sticks with the power running game.  Why can't ours?

Because he is a worthless C U N T.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 08:01:39 pm
They get cute.  Rams need to just keep running Gurley.  Bears D can't stop him.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 17, 2019, 08:02:04 pm
LMAO.  McVay goes full Nagy and loses five yards.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 08:05:06 pm
Get in essence three turn overs and you are losing 3-0.

Bears will get blown out if they don't get their head out of their ass.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 08:06:34 pm
These two teams are probably the most disappointing of this season. Rams were in the SB and Bears were expected to make a step and go deep in the playoffs. Rams have the best shot but there are a ton of teams with a lot of wins this season...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 08:08:43 pm
Great throw, Tru  ::) What a joke this team is.... >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 17, 2019, 08:08:50 pm
Nagy must go.  One of the most incompetent head coaches in NFL history.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 08:09:33 pm
Roughing the kicker.  First down!

Bears will still go three and out and have to punt.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 08:10:36 pm
Meh.

I should just turn this **** off!

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on November 17, 2019, 08:15:46 pm
Why did we turn down the 4th down penalty?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 17, 2019, 08:18:05 pm
Why did we turn down the 4th down penalty?

Because Matt Nagy is our head coach.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 08:20:02 pm
BOOOOO!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 08:20:33 pm
Trubisky is just so frigging off it's ridiculous. Quit throwing high you bozo! He had Braunecker but of course gets it there too fricking late. And so many of his throws are high. This s$%% has to stop. His mechanics suck his accuracy sucks!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 08:23:43 pm
This game play is going to kill O'Bradovich and give Hamp a coronary.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 08:24:34 pm
Games over boys....10 zip  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 08:25:10 pm
That is all on Jackson!

This team sucks so **** hard!

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 08:29:00 pm
LOL!  Kupp is on my fantasy team and Gurley is on my opponents. 

Could this game fvck me any harder then it already is?  No, no it couldn't.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 08:29:21 pm
F this team! I'm so incredibly sick and tired of seeing them perform like this year after fing year!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(  ONE decent year and back to the **** show.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 08:31:23 pm
Cohen STOP **** running for the sidelines!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 08:32:20 pm
Trade his ass!  Cohen ain't ****....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 17, 2019, 08:32:48 pm
What happened to Mack's bullrush?  He's been content with the outside speed rush far too often this year.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on November 17, 2019, 08:35:43 pm
Many of us here said draft Oline.  We did not and now we are paying for it.

Bears D cannot stop run and the O cannot run....extremely bad combination.

This season is over stick a fork in it. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 08:39:20 pm
God this team sucks...bad coaching bad everything....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 08:40:26 pm
BOOO!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 08:46:52 pm
Draft a TE and O-line.  Those are the top priorities.   
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 17, 2019, 08:58:53 pm
There’s a very simple reason these two teams are the biggest disappointments in the NFC.

Both have O-lines that have gone to ****.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 17, 2019, 08:59:51 pm
Draft a TE and O-line.  Those are the top priorities.   

The top priority is a new head coach.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 09:06:44 pm
This Oline has to be one of the three worst in the league this season. It's just incredibly bad...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 09:08:39 pm
FINALLY!!!

TD BEARS!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 09:09:17 pm
Suddenly Cohen comes to life....what the H has taken so long??
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 09:10:28 pm
They have started slow all year.  The answer is bad game plans coming in.  Also Trubisky plays better when he is just playing and not thinking to much.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 09:12:35 pm
Cohen has done nothing all season. His best play has been run to the sideline.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 09:13:24 pm
Now how about a Mack sighting for once? Where is big money???  >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 17, 2019, 09:13:32 pm
That Cohen draw was the first I can remember this year.  Trestman Jr seems to be allergic to draws and screens that work.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 09:14:59 pm
Nice D stand!

3 and out!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 09:15:46 pm
This is the old Cohen...he FINALLY lets a punt at the ten go....finally the light has come on....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 09:19:58 pm
My god that was a horrible awful terrible call....what the H was that???
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 09:20:16 pm
That was a terrible call!  Seriously?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 17, 2019, 09:20:37 pm
Sweet Holy Jesus **** Christ.  Nagy is absolutely awful.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 09:22:19 pm
Patterson is a dumbfvck!

Why the **** do you take your helmet off like that?

Did all of them take stupid pills before the game?

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 09:23:35 pm
(http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/ADr35Z4TvATIc/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 17, 2019, 09:24:27 pm
Did all of them take stupid pills before the game?

They're all coached by Matt Nagy so, yes, kind of.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 09:30:58 pm
That wasn't a fair catch.  He just put the hand up didn't wave it.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 17, 2019, 09:38:36 pm
Why is Mack on punt return?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 09:39:35 pm
Gotta earn that money somehow. Sure ain't by rushing the passer.....

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 09:40:57 pm
several missed opportunities, two missed FGs, at least three passes dropped.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 09:42:52 pm
Just got lucky there.  Trubisky can't hold the ball that long.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 09:43:34 pm
Trubisky lucked out on that with the penalty. What is with him missing open recievers?? He's got to make those throws!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 09:50:26 pm
Cohen hurts us as a punt returner.  I would replace him with Patterson.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 09:54:26 pm
WTF? 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 09:55:06 pm
Another stupid wasted play. Just toss it in the ground when you need ONE D YARD!! How bout run the thing? God this is pathetic....ONE YARD!!!!!!! Guess it don't matter enough  ::) >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 17, 2019, 09:55:06 pm
Nagy is **** ridiculous.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 09:58:16 pm
Where is Mack? He had ALL DAY to make that play. Where IS Mr. Money ????  >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 09:59:38 pm
Lynch, "tackle"?? More like throw a shoulder in there  ::)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 17, 2019, 10:00:20 pm
Fuller looks like another guy out there just trying to not get hurt.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 10:02:23 pm
Booo!  Game over!  Season over!

This team sucks azz!

So many opportunities to win this and all of them were pissed away just like the season.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 10:03:04 pm
And the worst part is no No.1 pick next year, so no benefit whatsoever to a lost season....gotta love it.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearFan on November 17, 2019, 10:03:24 pm
This team is pathetic.  Sick of the same $hit every week.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 17, 2019, 10:05:21 pm
Rams did everything possible to give this game to the bears, and they still can't get anything going.  QB can't throw, OL can't block, recievers can't catch.  Hard to believe our coach is supposed to be an offensive guru.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on November 17, 2019, 10:08:18 pm
Game over Bears lose, Queens win
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 17, 2019, 10:09:03 pm
Trestman Jr's desperation move, bring in Daniel.  Nagy and Pace are going to scapegoat Trubisky to protect their jobs.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 10:09:07 pm
Daniel in. Hey what the heck, who cares at this point. Shuffling chairs on the Titanic. Bring in the towel boy. Maybe the friggin towel boy should replace PACE!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 17, 2019, 10:11:53 pm
Nagy is a gutless piece of ****.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 10:13:08 pm
I honestly don't care. I do not believe Trubisky is the answer at QB, not by a long shot. He's had plenty of chances to get it right and hasn't. So might as well let the fire begin....find out what burns up and what's left....don't care....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 17, 2019, 10:13:41 pm
What a bonehead move.  Two idiots prioritizing protecting their jobs over the future of the franchise. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 10:13:47 pm
The point of that was what exactly?  Protect Trubisky from injury?

Destroy his confidence?  I don't get it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 10:15:58 pm
This team needs a new GM, new coach, new offensive line, new offensive coordinator, new QB, new TE....not much...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 17, 2019, 10:22:32 pm
Pace has a lot of decisions to make this off season.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 17, 2019, 10:25:26 pm
The point of that was what exactly?  Protect Trubisky from injury?

Destroy his confidence?  I don't get it.
The point is to pretend everything is fine except Trubisky.  Get another year of work for these clowns and hope they get lucky again like last year.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 17, 2019, 10:26:30 pm
If he keeps his job.  How many GM's get to pick three coaches?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 10:27:47 pm
I forgot one, a kicker.... ::)  Maybe Money Mack will take a pay cut to buy one....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 17, 2019, 10:28:18 pm
80% of the problem is the awful offensive line.

Coward is horrendous and the others are struggling.

No running game and no pass protection makes it hard to run an offense.  Where are Bars and Larsen?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 10:30:14 pm
I'd still be looking for a QB. Tru even when he has time isn't accurate enough to be a NFL QB. He misses too many open recievers seeing them and then trying to throw to them, even with time. He makes a few good throws then a few head scratchers. I'd move on from him, definitely....enoughs enough....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 17, 2019, 10:31:05 pm
Sad part is Pace and Trestman Jr are going to be back next year.  They'll mortgage the bears future in a desperate attempt to keep their jobs. 

Nagy will be the head coach at Delaware in 2021.  Pace will be getting coffee for someone who knows about football.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 17, 2019, 10:35:16 pm
They're saying Bisquit was sidelined with a 'hip injury'. Looked fine to most everyone......
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on November 18, 2019, 12:19:08 am
listening to OB & Hampton post game & someone said the saddest thing was watching Trubisky break out of the pocket & scramble only to see that every receiver had stopped running & were just standing on the field watching!

Pace has to go, Nagy has to go.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on November 18, 2019, 12:33:20 am
Tackles - Urban 1; Floyd 2; Mack 0
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 18, 2019, 12:41:07 am
Urban??
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 18, 2019, 12:42:41 am
Mack is looking like he doesn't want to even be here.....he has completely disappeared
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on November 18, 2019, 04:53:01 am
3:33 left in 3rd quarter, 3rd & 1, and Bears line up in a pistol formation, Trubisky 5 yds behind line of scrimmage, RB 3 & a half yds behind the QB.

3rd & 1, it's a running play and the RB is less than a foot short of 9 yds behind the line of scrimmage!

Just watched the highlights & couldn't believe it.

Leno then misses his block & Montgomery is killed.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on November 18, 2019, 05:01:50 am
All I can say is Wow!  Not only does our team completely suck due to lack of Oline talent but more importantly coaching....that fiasco with 3 minutes left was ridiculous.

Now let me start with I am not a Mitch Trubisky fan.  I believe he is not the long term answer at QB.  However he played one of his better games of the season yesterday.  With absolutely one of the worst Olines this season, if not the worst he was making some plays.  Did we put Daniels in to show how bad our Oline really was, because if so that worked.

Here is the problem.  I think we are very poorly coached on many levels.  It is reflected in the teams performance and effort.  If you think we need a coaching change, then we definitely need a GM change.  I gave Pace a pass on John Fox, he was new a job and the Bears pretty much made him hire Fox.  However Nagy was all Pace, just as was Trubisky and the other draft picks the last 5 years. 

Drafting up to take Trubisky is looking like the dumbest move ever.  I think Pace is over his head.  Gotta wonder since Vic Fangio left how things have seemingly gone south in a hurry.  There are some serious issues to fix that go way beyond the talent level, because we know the defense has the talent to be elite. 

Benching Mitch with 3 minutes left just made absolutely no sense.  Bone headed move, by bone headed coach, hired by a bone headed management.  Blahhhhh.  Terrible.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on November 18, 2019, 06:55:22 am
Also sounds like things are going sour in Denver for Vic...

Can we get a do-over?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 18, 2019, 08:28:27 am
Well the good news is that I went to bed at halftime.  The bad news is that I taped the second half and will watch it.  So we need ANOTHER new QB, but if we bring in Marriota or Cam Newton or anyone else, will they be any better behind our putrid OL, running Nagys dumbass schemes?  And this is what I think is going to happen, we will give Pace and Nagy 1 more year, and we will do just enough, so that we renew their contracts and are stuck with them.  What we should do is blow the whole thing up and start over, but who has confidence in the Bears getting the right people?  I know I dont.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 18, 2019, 08:31:33 am
Oh and Mack is in total self preservation mode.  All he does is the big wide loop outside rush, halfassing it.  No contain, no pressure, no nothing.  He is just playing not to get hurt.  Nice.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on November 18, 2019, 08:32:18 am
why wait? Pace and Nagy must go.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on November 18, 2019, 08:47:06 am
How about we ask the NFL to go to a Five-Mississippi-delay before the Defense can cross the line - fewer QB injuries - more offense...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 18, 2019, 08:47:55 am
It just sucks that we will be at the Ted Phillips mercy again to find the right people. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 18, 2019, 08:48:29 am
How about we ask the NFL to go to a Five-Mississippi-delay before the Defense can cross the line - fewer QB injuries - more offense...

Isnt that Paganos master scheme???
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 18, 2019, 09:52:26 am
Isn't it crystal clear that Nagy is a TERRIBLE O-coordinator??????

We only won last year because of D. And now under Pagano our D is super soft.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 18, 2019, 10:14:56 am
The D has issues for sure but really... If you can hold teams under 20 pts a game you should win that game more than not if you have at least an average NFL offense. Sadly, the Bears do not. That falls on Nagy. He is in over his bald-visored head.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 18, 2019, 10:45:23 am
He did NOT call the plays in KC - Andy Reid did. It's time to give up the play calling for the rest of the year. Nagy is HORRIFIC at it. No Red Zone O.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 18, 2019, 10:49:39 am
Hoge and Jahns lots of questions on why Nagy didnt know Mitch was hurt:

https://wgnradio.com/2019/11/18/hoge-and-jahns-bears-rams-postgame-show-a-debacle-in-l-a/
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 18, 2019, 11:50:22 am
Hoge and Jahns lots of questions on why Nagy didnt know Mitch was hurt:

https://wgnradio.com/2019/11/18/hoge-and-jahns-bears-rams-postgame-show-a-debacle-in-l-a/

Probably because he wasn't hurt. I am guessing we have almost seen the last of mitch.

What a s h it show last night game was. HORRIFIC.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 12:03:28 pm
Can't even start the game without a screwup...nice kick out of bounds... ::)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 12:11:02 pm
Tru misses the 1st down throw.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 24, 2019, 12:32:27 pm
god the bears suck
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 12:40:43 pm
So so far, a kickoff out of bounds, a pass dropped, a Tru int, and what was this last one, block in the back? Which they're good for at least once a game. ::)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 24, 2019, 12:47:20 pm
WOW!

That is a terrible call!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 12:47:30 pm
I do not like Leno, but that was a totally absolutely lame call....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 12:48:33 pm
Like Chif said, this team sucks so bad....it's unreal....fire the coach, this crap is totally on him.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 24, 2019, 12:58:53 pm
Mitchell Trubisky is way, way down the list of things that are wrong with the Chicago Bears.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 01:00:23 pm
Not 'way way', but he isn't the top....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 24, 2019, 01:04:39 pm
The crowd will boo this team off the field at half time deservedly.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 24, 2019, 01:11:02 pm
They can't do anything right in any phase of the game at home against another bad team.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 01:11:19 pm
Trubisky sucks, period. He threw that off his back foot with no power in it. THEY NEED A NEW COACH!!!! This team is failing everywhere.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 01:17:08 pm
They got the same kicker we do...wide right, wide left.... ::)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 01:19:32 pm
Hurry! Gotta blow the clock down here with a few bad throws and then miss a kick wide right!  ::)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 01:22:26 pm
Why did Braunecker run back towards the coverage instead of more towards the sideline and create space for a catch?? Bizarre...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 24, 2019, 01:27:55 pm
Why did Braunecker run back towards the coverage instead of more towards the sideline and create space for a catch?? Bizarre...

So he wouldn't drop his 3rd pasd of the half.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 24, 2019, 01:33:49 pm
As Bears fans, we've seen some poorly coached teams over the years but nothing like this.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 01:42:40 pm
That pass wasn't close to anyone. Terrible deep ball....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 24, 2019, 01:43:02 pm
Cohen is always running to the sideline.  Cut it up field for fucksake!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 24, 2019, 01:44:20 pm
Finally a TD!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 24, 2019, 01:48:56 pm
This is where the defense gives up a TD to wipe out anything good
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 24, 2019, 01:52:14 pm
Cohen is near the point where he just needs to be benched
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 01:59:17 pm
Tru reminds me too much of Cutler. Throwing balls over heads or in the dirt.... ::)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 02:11:05 pm
Keep Pienero will ya?  ::) We love watching balls go wide.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 24, 2019, 02:12:07 pm
Wow, I thought Piniero hit that XP perfectly, judging the wind by the flags on the goalposts...

The wind didn’t move the ball a bit, though...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on November 24, 2019, 02:17:34 pm
Can Patterson return punts? Cohen seems to have little interest in doing so...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 02:21:29 pm
They use those stupid underneath screens that go nowhere constantly....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on November 24, 2019, 02:22:51 pm
Nagy loves the line of scrimmage pass
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 24, 2019, 02:25:24 pm
Another int by Tru with a terrible throw....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 24, 2019, 02:55:16 pm
Trying to give the game away..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 24, 2019, 03:28:05 pm
Gross game.

Mitch didn't look terrified.  Non terrified Mitch makes dumb decisions with the ball.

Mack was back to the bullrush today and impacted the game.



Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on November 24, 2019, 04:53:12 pm
play of the game -

3rd & 1, 3:53 left in the game.

Power run? Nope, Cowart & TE pulls & they try ANOTHER short yardage trap. Blocks all missed & play blown up.

Nagy is a nut.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 24, 2019, 05:17:00 pm
Can Patterson return punts? Cohen seems to have little interest in doing so...

I was thinking the same thing. He missed a fair catch that landed at his feet and we lost 15 yards.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 27, 2019, 12:42:50 pm
Just finished watching the game.  Glad to see Mack show up.  The O Line sucks so hard it isnt funny.  Sounds sad that Massie with a high ankle sprain is a GOOD thing.  Mitch didnt suck as bad as he has, and although he was limping for a little bit, he seemed fine.  Cohen, I would trade for a bag of potato chips, regular and not even bbq. 

If Driskol is out tom, do we make the 3rd string QB look like the second coming of Peyton Manning?   Or Driskol for that matter?  The Lions are pretty bad, we SHOULD win, but I am not confident at all.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 27, 2019, 01:12:03 pm
If do not turn the ball over - we win. I am guessing Mack has a big game.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 28, 2019, 07:09:48 am
Bears game today is probably more snooze inducing than the tryptophan from any Turkey being eaten today.....

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone !

Go Bears...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 28, 2019, 11:45:18 am
7-0 Bears!

Great start.

Now let's see if the D can stop a third string rookie led offense.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 28, 2019, 11:49:38 am
Oh for fucksake!

How do you let that happen?

This fvcking team.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 28, 2019, 11:50:23 am
Pagano is awful.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 28, 2019, 11:50:55 am
I just knew the rookie QB would gash them.  Seems to happen over and over against the Bears for some reason.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 28, 2019, 11:52:16 am
Fire Pagano now!!! Make that pr!ck walk home!! WTF!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on November 28, 2019, 12:20:06 pm
Theme song for the bear offense.


https://youtu.be/faAOrf07lHY
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 28, 2019, 12:28:00 pm
Helmet to helmet hit on the Trubisky.  No flag of course.

Cut Miller and Coward.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 28, 2019, 12:28:52 pm
Miller fumbles way to often for how rarely he makes a play.  How Coward can let a much smaller player take the ball from him in a scrum like that is unbelievable.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 28, 2019, 12:37:07 pm
Alex Bars, please.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 28, 2019, 12:41:26 pm
Nagys clown posse. This is his mess. He's got to go.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 28, 2019, 12:41:27 pm
Just a horribly coached team.  Nagy must go.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on November 28, 2019, 12:42:28 pm
Nagy goes for it on a fourth and takes so long making the call/decision that the offense can't get lined up.  The guy is in way over his head.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 28, 2019, 12:43:09 pm
This has to be the worst coached Bears team of recent memory..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 28, 2019, 12:46:46 pm
I am totally convinced Trubisky has to go. Tired of watching him miss open receivers. This rookie is outplaying him!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 28, 2019, 12:51:59 pm
Wait that is a foul but helmet to helmet isn't?

WTF?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 28, 2019, 12:54:10 pm
Next year better bring a new coaching regime, new offensive line and new QB!😡👎
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 28, 2019, 01:06:05 pm
Make sure you avoid that first down marker, Tru...🙄🙄🙄👎😡
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 28, 2019, 01:11:05 pm
One of the worst performances of the season. Nice showing improvement, Nagy.😡👎
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 28, 2019, 01:36:41 pm
Cohen just lost what 15 yards on that punt return?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on November 28, 2019, 01:42:45 pm
I've seen enough of this clown at QB.😡👎👎
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on November 28, 2019, 01:49:52 pm
I'm tired of watching the Bears trying to run from the shotgun.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on November 28, 2019, 02:11:36 pm
Dix was looking right at the **** football.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 28, 2019, 02:18:31 pm
Boooo!!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 28, 2019, 02:31:22 pm
Montgomery is pretty much getting those yards on his own.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 28, 2019, 02:33:46 pm
How can that be delay of game when the ref stopped Trubisky?

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 28, 2019, 02:34:57 pm
Am I crazy but didn't the ref walk up touch Trubisky on the back and make him wait to snap the ball?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on November 28, 2019, 03:03:36 pm
Glad they won but damn!

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on November 28, 2019, 03:14:46 pm
on the Bears 1st drive when Montgomery ran to the 10 he would have scored if Wims made his block - catch it on the highlights.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on November 28, 2019, 03:24:31 pm
Magically we won. Miracles never cease
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 28, 2019, 06:50:22 pm
Am I crazy but didn't the ref walk up touch Trubisky on the back and make him wait to snap the ball?

That play was seriously bizarre.. As was the whole game...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 28, 2019, 06:59:08 pm
Trubisky plays much better when it's the last 2 minutes of each half.

How about Detroit's QB? The bears made him look like the next coming of Joe Montana.. We should've smoked these guys. But then again, this is the Bears we're talking about.. Our defense is really not playing that well.. The whole team is mistake ridden..

The one thing I keep noticing. Kickoffs, punt returns, receiver, QB, no one runs up field. It seems as if everyone runs sideline to sideline.. So many times, just run up the field and they would've gotten the first down.. Unreal!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 29, 2019, 08:41:08 am
So our D made an undrafted 3rd string qb look like Troy Aikman.  He wasnt touched at all in the first half, and no pressure.  Where was the Mack feeding frenzy?  Lame.  That unnecessary roughness penalty on Roquan out of bounds was super lame.  The noncall helmet to helmet hit on Trubisky was total BS, although to his credit he did seem to play better after that shot.  It was nice to see some long passes actually completed.  No matter what Leno needs to go next year, and he can have Massie help him.  Glad for the win, but I just kept thinking at the end how the D was letting them march right down the field.  If we were playing anyone else besides the Lions, we lose that game.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 29, 2019, 09:46:27 am
Trubisky seems just play better rolling out and no huddle.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on November 29, 2019, 09:47:27 am
So our D made an undrafted 3rd string qb look like Troy Aikman.  He wasnt touched at all in the first half, and no pressure.  Where was the Mack feeding frenzy?  Lame.  That unnecessary roughness penalty on Roquan out of bounds was super lame.  The noncall helmet to helmet hit on Trubisky was total BS, although to his credit he did seem to play better after that shot.  It was nice to see some long passes actually completed.  No matter what Leno needs to go next year, and he can have Massie help him.  Glad for the win, but I just kept thinking at the end how the D was letting them march right down the field.  If we were playing anyone else besides the Lions, we lose that game.

U blame 100% Chuck Pagano....his soft D created this - no pressure. We do miss Akiem Hicks - you can't double team Hicks and Mack.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 29, 2019, 09:57:09 am
Oh I dont give Pagano a pass, at all.  He can pack up as well.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 29, 2019, 11:11:58 am
Pagano is an idiot and needs to hit the road..

https://youtu.be/19o6eTtkxTI

Interesting talk about the D. They bring up Floyd and how he basically isn't pulling his weight. I've said this for some time now.. Another under achieving 1st round pick for the Bears..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on November 29, 2019, 12:34:32 pm
Floyd isnt pulling his weight because he is tall and skinny, like a WR. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on November 29, 2019, 05:34:55 pm
Most everyone here on the board questioned his size.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 01, 2019, 07:05:13 am
Hoping that Pagano found something in the blitz packages.  It took him 12 games, but he finally started sending Roquan.  It seemed that Fangio last year had a better plan for him.  We are still a top defense, but these lapses are disturbing
.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 05, 2019, 08:41:11 am
Braunecker and Gabriel out again

Amukamara doubtful
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 05, 2019, 08:43:10 am
Cowgirls tonight.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 05, 2019, 02:22:09 pm
I feel this game will be the Beginning of the End OR the End of the Beginning for the Nagy era.....

The season in the balance. Based on past performances it does not look good but on any given Sunday (Thursday in this case) you never really know....

Go Bears and remain relevant for another week please !
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 05, 2019, 06:29:58 pm
Cowboys are a bad matchup for the bears.
23-17 cowboys.  A touchdown drive in garbage time makes the final score look a little more respectable.

Bears need a special teams or defensive touchdown to win imo. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 05, 2019, 07:26:44 pm
can we please fire Pagano
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 05, 2019, 07:31:14 pm
where the fukk is the defense?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 07:31:35 pm
Brutal.  Death by a thousand cuts.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 07:38:21 pm
I hate how our DB's play so soft under Pagano. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 05, 2019, 07:39:19 pm
So let's put Mitch in a hole to dig out of... Thanks defense (or lack of)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 05, 2019, 07:40:07 pm
Fuller practically told Prescott it was zone on that 3rd and eight by starting his drop early twice.  Easy throw for dak if he knows where Fuller is going.  Got to have better discipline then that.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 07:43:14 pm
Holtz is looking good!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 07:44:31 pm
Nice run Mitch!

Good decision!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 07:46:47 pm
So once again Trubisky throws a stupid ball to the wrong team and it's int.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 07:46:56 pm
**** Mitch!

Cowboys ball at the one inch line.

D better do something here or season over.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 05, 2019, 07:46:57 pm
Fukk this sh!t!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 05, 2019, 07:47:26 pm
That turnover will probably be the game.  Defense absolutely has to bail bad decision Mitch out.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 07:47:57 pm
I am fully expecting them to go 99.9 yards for a TD.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 05, 2019, 07:51:14 pm
Miller got held on that play.  But he was nowhere near the ball
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 07:51:36 pm
At least they held them. 

Wish Fuller got that one.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 07:51:57 pm
Smith to the locker room.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 07:57:59 pm
Cohen needs to cut it inside.  Stop going out of bounds.  Get the first then get up field!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 07:58:26 pm
HOLTZ!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 07:59:31 pm
Uh, where has this Holtz been?!??
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 07:59:51 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 08:00:05 pm
That was one HELLUVA nice drive!! wow....very impressed...VERY....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:01:17 pm
Plus they just replayed the Holtz screen and it should have been a face mask on the Cowboys.

Hopefully the D comes alive now!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 08:02:03 pm
Not good if Smith is out for any length of time. That will definitely affect the D....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 05, 2019, 08:02:16 pm
I'm always stunned when the bears have a successful screen. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 05, 2019, 08:05:47 pm
I’m still not sure if the pick was thrown to Wims or Miller, but it wasn’t near either of them...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:06:17 pm
NICE!

Come on Trubisky take them tot he end zone again!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:07:10 pm
I’m still not sure if the pick was thrown to Wims or Miller, but it wasn’t near either of them...

I am guessing either some ran the wrong route or Trubisky made the wrong read thinking they were going to run a different route.  It is the only thing that makes sense.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:07:24 pm
So sick of Cohen running out of bounds.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 05, 2019, 08:07:42 pm
Kwiatkowski was limping after the last play.  I'm really nervous if we are running kpl and Iggy out there
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 05, 2019, 08:07:52 pm
Pierre louis needs help from Kwiatkowsi what to do.

Oh no
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:09:58 pm
MONTGOMERY!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 08:10:48 pm
That would have been a great spot for PA...not sure why they didn't run it....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:11:34 pm
That was PI!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:12:15 pm
FIRST DOWN!!!

Great play!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:12:46 pm
FACEMASK second one they have missed!

Bull **** call against Wims!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:12:57 pm
BULLSHIT!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 08:13:07 pm
Obvious facemask and they call a phantom push....wtf!...ridiculous!!!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:13:34 pm
Have to settle for a field goal thanks to the refs.  Peneiro will probably miss.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 05, 2019, 08:14:13 pm
Refs screwed the bears on that drive. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 08:14:14 pm
These constant missed calls are BS! Bears get ticky tack crap and obvious penalties are not called. It's getting pathetic
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:14:18 pm
10-7 Bears.

I swear the NFL is rigged.  The refs decide more games anymore.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 05, 2019, 08:15:23 pm
That was horseshit.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:16:19 pm
Second one they have missed.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 05, 2019, 08:18:29 pm
There were either 2 or 3 separate face mask incidents on that play.

Horrible.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:21:47 pm
Missed it!

YES!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:22:46 pm
Now let's go get 7!

**** the refs!

I saw Nagy yelling at the refs that they missed two facemask penalties on that play earlier.  You know the one they called a phantom block in the back on Wims.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 08:25:32 pm
RUN that ball! Don't sit back there!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:29:49 pm
If the Bears can score a TD before the half.  Then get the ball to start the second half and score again the Cowboys will fall apart.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 05, 2019, 08:31:19 pm
They're playing with more intensity than usual
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 08:38:43 pm
Hope Wims is ok, he's been coming on....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 05, 2019, 08:39:20 pm
Wims should have caught that first one.  Second pass, looked like Smith was there early.  I hope wims ain't hurt, I'm high on his potential.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:39:29 pm
Do the Robinson slant or TE in the middle.  They are cover two killers.

We know from experience.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:40:34 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:41:02 pm
That wasn't even close.  Robinson caught it for the TD then the defender took it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 05, 2019, 08:41:26 pm
TD Robinson!  Smith was there early again.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:41:38 pm
17 - 7 BEARS!

We get the ball to start the half!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 08:42:03 pm
Lookin' good tonight! Very impressed and leaves me wondering where the heck this team has been!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:43:34 pm
I hope it has finally clicked for Trubisky.

This is a top ten defense he is tearing up.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 05, 2019, 08:43:39 pm
All 3 good throws by Tru

The incompletions were where only wims could get it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on December 05, 2019, 08:43:49 pm
lol Smith both face-guarded and interfered on the touchdown catch and neither were called.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 05, 2019, 08:46:36 pm
And they called it shared possession...even though Robinson was lying on the ground holding the ball while Smith’s left arm was pointed toward the sky...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:50:25 pm
We did get away with a delay of game but I have seen several other teams get away with them against us so, *shrug
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 05, 2019, 08:50:56 pm
OL playing so much better tonight.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 05, 2019, 08:52:41 pm
Love that first half score. Need to do the same in the 2nd half. Montgomery looking better tonight.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 08:59:35 pm
First down Mitch!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 09:00:13 pm
WHY on earth has Nagy corralled Tru's running this entire season?!?? His running is making a huge difference in this game
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 09:00:36 pm
Leno sucks!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 09:01:45 pm
PATTERSON IS A STUD!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 09:03:05 pm
Montgomery!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 09:03:51 pm
Nagy getting stupid here....don't get stupid, you're moving the ball!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 09:05:53 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 09:06:06 pm
My goodness, where the heck has this team been??? TD!!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 05, 2019, 09:06:40 pm
This is the bears we needed to see in September
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 05, 2019, 09:08:32 pm
Miller Time!

Finally!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 05, 2019, 09:09:06 pm
Agree

Since when can Leno and Daniels run block.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 09:10:09 pm
It's just totally bizarre....the offensive line has figured out blocking, Trubisky is running again, and the D is holding their own. Still need more pressure though....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 05, 2019, 09:12:56 pm
Wow

Only 16 offensive plays for the boys since the opening drive.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on December 05, 2019, 09:14:30 pm
Dallas is wilting....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 09:21:39 pm
MACK!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 09:22:44 pm
Yet another facemask not called!

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 09:22:45 pm
ANOTHER non-call face mask!! WTH refs!!  >:(
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 09:26:42 pm
That was another facemask!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 09:26:49 pm
WTF?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 09:28:02 pm
Refs are trying like hell to rig the game.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 09:31:55 pm
These non calls, someone better be looking into it because it's bs!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 09:40:30 pm
TD MITCH!!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 09:40:48 pm
Nagy is a total moron for not using this kids legs. Unreal...Tru with a TD
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on December 05, 2019, 09:41:54 pm
Go Bears!!

Really glad to see Trubisky stepping up and the other players on offense feeding off his success!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 05, 2019, 09:43:15 pm
Best part of Trubiskys td run was the defense coming out to celebrate with him.  Confidence goes a long way.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 05, 2019, 09:43:34 pm
D has to do their part now and find a pass rush
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 05, 2019, 09:48:23 pm
Thank you D.

Bleed the clock.  No turnovers.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 09:59:10 pm
This game is awesome!

I hope this is the turning point for Trubisky and the team.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 05, 2019, 10:00:25 pm
DB's playing great.  Nowhere to go.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 10:04:25 pm
WTF Miller?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 05, 2019, 10:17:29 pm
Nice!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 05, 2019, 10:40:22 pm
Nice win. Nice game from Horsted. Only flaw was the 2 false start penalties, but he catches the ball.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 05, 2019, 10:40:58 pm
Best game of the year.  If they play this well next week, they'll smoke the packers
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on December 05, 2019, 11:04:44 pm
Holtz & Horstead, offense looks different with TE production.

Leno still sucks.

Where's Floyd?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 05, 2019, 11:28:56 pm
Roquan has a pec injury, doesn’t sound good

Wims has a knee...APP!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 05, 2019, 11:54:03 pm
Outstanding game, best of the year. They'll win next week playing like this, IF they play like this. This game had so much to like- Trubisky finally running again which made a HUGE difference-the TE's two of them making huge plays, the line finally figuring out how to run block, Nagy taking chances downfield. It all shockingly came together in one explosive game.
Gotta love it!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on December 06, 2019, 01:39:56 am
thought Toliver played well, was surprised the Cowboys didn't go after him more. Even on the TD to Cooper he was on him.

So both out inside LBs are done for the year.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 06, 2019, 04:50:30 am
It will be interesting at the end of the year, when decisions and cuts are made.  Would love to hear the inside intel of what happened with Mitch in late November/December.  was it a natural progression or did Nagy take the reins off of him?  Was he coached to not run, or di he just start using his legs.  We aren't hearing a peep out of the lockeroom now, but would love to know what the truth is.

I can handle the truth! 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on December 06, 2019, 04:57:49 am
Maybe they'll stop calling Trubisky a bust now?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 06, 2019, 07:47:02 am
Well, the answer it this game was the end of the beginning of the Nagy era.....

From here on out its time to see what he really brings and how this team responds...

FWIW:
0. That Eddie P FG miss in warmups looked bad. Complete shank with the camera behind him. He saw the camera and gave a sheepish, nervous smile. Glad he didn't let it get to his head....

1. It looked bad that 1st drive for Dallas. It lasted BAD for the D and took forever and was longest drive (in time) any time has given up a score on all season  ? You've got to be **** kidding me.....

2. After they got smacked in the mouth, the team responded and promptly hit themselves in the face with that INT at the 1 yard line. I was like WTF was Mitch doing ? It was like he took the middle ground between throwing it away or into the back corned of the end zone and did neither. Glad to see it didn't phase him.

3. After the 1st 2 drives, the Bears took control for most of the rest of the game. It was like Dallas said "OK we scored. We're done. On to next week".

4. The D was missing a few parts (and I think will be missing more this week) and gave up some **** late in the game, but generally held their own against a very good statistical Offense...

5. It was kind of fun hearing Aikman get more and more dejected as the game went on. Almost as fun as the game itself....

6. I think Prescott hurt his hand hitting Mack's helmet in the 2nd Qtr. His throws were a little off for the rest of the game. Another thing Mack does that is not in the statistics....

7. Thank God for Allen Robinson. The Man Can Play. Ball.....

8. Miller is an aggravating player. He makes plays that make you go "**** Yeah" and in the same drive "WTF was that ?". He catches that ball for a 1st down and the Cowboys probably don't score more than 14...

9. I hope Wims is ok. He's gotten the shaft on offense blocking penalties. Speaking of penalties, since when have face-mask calls been outlawed ?

10. Where the Holtz has he been ? ' Nuff said.....

11. Good to see Mitchell run the ball... and well. Same with Montgomery (the fumble notwithstanding).....

12. I think Nagy was more mad himself for the trick play that went bad because even HE can't deny it was stupid and should not have been called. Maybe he's learning ? Then again....

This team still needs to learn how to put the other team away (not sure it ever will) but a win is a win. Rarely does a team go -2 in the turnover department and win convincingly like it did. The final score did not reflect the domination of Dallas.....

Go Bears. Keep chopping wood and building on this. Please.....







Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on December 06, 2019, 08:51:14 am
Wow that was fun. Had friends down from Indiana, old bear fans, it was great to drink to celebrate. Where the hell has this team been? Who the hell was 49 and 81 ? 49 looked like Bronco N. rumbling down the field,
god I loved it. I hate Pagano's soft s hit, but the Bears don't ask me. I still don't have a lot of hope for this year, but its fun to still have a chance. I'm getting ready to go to work hung over,
but by God its a feel good hangover, not a "that sucks" hangover. That Corona is damn fine beer. Who knew?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on December 06, 2019, 09:38:52 am
A night for tight ends: J.P. Holtz and Jesper Horsted left the field against the Cowboys with the first and second most productive games by a Bears’ tight end this season.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 06, 2019, 10:05:38 am
I thought Tolliver held his own pretty much.  Piere-Louis filled in pretty well for Roquan.  Leno still suucks and I would replace Charles Leno with Jay Leno in a heart beat if I could.  It is great to see Mitch using his legs, and hopefully Nagy has realized the error in coaching Mitch to NOT run.  I was mildly nervous at the end of the game, as they started to go prevent and gave up the TD.  And WTF on the missed facemask calls?  I guess it will be good prep for playing the fudge packers, as you know they are going to get phantom calls and no calls for the bears, but still. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 06, 2019, 11:16:21 am
Good game.. Trubisky looked confident. He threw the int early on and he didn't let it get in his head. I'm still holding out hope for Mitch. How can anyone judge a QB or RB with a horrendous O line.

Green Bay has to be a little worried. They aren't exactly killing right now.

We need Minny to choke the rest of the way and the lambs to tank...

Like someone said , it's at least fun to act like we still have a chance..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 06, 2019, 11:18:17 am
Is Hicks out for the season? I guess probably so considering the season is almost over..

We have to get this O line straightened out.. That's a must!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 06, 2019, 11:34:36 am
He might come back for GB next week.  Could be the spark that Mack needs.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 06, 2019, 01:11:37 pm
Hicks probably plays. Smith probably a torn pec.
Would be great if Trevathan comes back but they're keeping his status quiet.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 06, 2019, 01:15:46 pm
I could watch the highlight of that screen to Holtz all day.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on December 06, 2019, 01:27:33 pm
Guys


The bears are just lowering their second round draft pick next year.


That is all.



Pack 30 bears 16.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 06, 2019, 02:12:27 pm
Just like your Packers...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: joki13 on December 06, 2019, 04:26:39 pm
  otto,I'm not a packer hater like many here. I'm indifferent to their success,but,what I will say is,we have everything to play for and the Pack doesn't. I believe we win cuz we have to and we're playing more with a purpose. Still a long shot to get in the playoffs as GB and Minny have to lose two out of their last three games,but,if Chicago beats them then they need to win both the remaining games and anything is possible. Thank goodness coaches are finally playing to Trubisky's strength. Running the ball is the wildcard. Why they got away from it at the beginning of the season is beyond me.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 06, 2019, 05:17:41 pm
I could watch the highlight of that screen to Holtz all day.

A thing of beauty. Where's it been all year?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 06, 2019, 05:26:28 pm
Guys


The bears are just lowering their second round draft pick next year.


That is all.



Pack 30 bears 16.

If the Bears continue playing like they have lately, you never know. I never liked playing for a draft pick. Pay to win no matter and let the chips fall where they may..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 06, 2019, 05:36:09 pm
This is the time of year when you can't help but look back at some of the losses. The Raiders, chargers, Philly... All winnable games.. Just two of those would put us in a whole different situation..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 06, 2019, 05:48:12 pm
  otto,I'm not a packer hater like many here. I'm indifferent to their success,but,what I will say is,we have everything to play for and the Pack doesn't. I believe we win cuz we have to and we're playing more with a purpose. Still a long shot to get in the playoffs as GB and Minny have to lose two out of their last three games,but,if Chicago beats them then they need to win both the remaining games and anything is possible. Thank goodness coaches are finally playing to Trubisky's strength. Running the ball is the wildcard. Why they got away from it at the beginning of the season is beyond me.

The Packers (9-3) only need to lose against the Bears.  We need them to beat the Vikings.  Their other games make no difference to the Bears since the Packers are likely the division winner.  The Vikings and Rams are the two teams the Bears need to lose while the Bears keep winning to get the last wild card spot.   

Bears (7-6) have Packers, Chiefs and Vikings left.  A tall order to win all three but that is what it will likely take (10-6).  Although if everything fell right they might get in at 9-7.  The Vikings game is a must win no matter what.

Vikings (8-4) have  Lions, Chargers, Packers and Bears.  They could definitely drop one maybe two games besides the Bears game.  If they drop two the Bears might even lose one game and still get in but have to beat the Vikings.

If the Bears end up with the same record as the Vikings the Bears would have the tie breaker since they already beat them once.

Rams (7-5) have Seahawks, Cowboys, 49ers and Cardinals.  They could easily drop two games still or even three.





Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 06, 2019, 06:21:09 pm
OK, Which one of you was this?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/drunk-fan-being-wheeled-out-is-delightfully-hilarious/ar-BBXSat9?ocid=spartandhp
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davep on December 06, 2019, 07:41:46 pm
They said that Montgomery was hurt near the end of the game.  Any news on what it was.

I would love to see him behind a decent OL.  To me he looks like the best Bear running back since Walter Payton.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on December 06, 2019, 07:42:16 pm
Chiffyinva


No, will not happen.


Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on December 06, 2019, 08:35:47 pm
Neil Anderson and Matt Forte were pretty damn good.  I like Montgomery but hard to say he is looking better than those two yet.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 06, 2019, 09:30:41 pm
He hurt his knee but not sure how bad.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davep on December 06, 2019, 10:10:55 pm
I liked Neal Anderson (not so much Forte) but neither of them had the ability to move a pile of tacklers the way Montgomery.  Roland Harper did, but he didn't play after Payton.

Of course, the mark of a truly great running back includes the ability to perform over a long career.  That is why I believe that Gale Sayers, the best running back I have ever seen, did not last long enough to be considered truly great.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 06, 2019, 10:13:39 pm
Forte has always been very underrated on these boards.

He was a stud.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 07, 2019, 05:15:18 am
Forte would be exactly what Nagy needs in this offense.  But I do like Montgomery's effort to move the pile and break tackles.  Something Forte lacked.  But his ability to catch the ball, his height, he was a true receiving weapon.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 07, 2019, 05:22:26 am
Interesting discussion point.  Payton had every tool, but lacked a top gear.  Barry Sanders had the top gear and every move in the book, but was a liability as a blocker, and so so in the passing game. 

Every great running back likely lacked something, one tool.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 07, 2019, 05:46:56 am
Or in the case of Eric Dickerson... was a tool.... :D   
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 07, 2019, 07:50:37 am
With the speed of today's linebackers, hard to get to the outside. Need a good o line to open holes..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on December 07, 2019, 11:42:12 pm

First of all, it was the Cowboys defense.  Still pleased with the outcome.

I've been asking this for weeks - why has Trubisky not been running.  Bears offense was not a juggernaut last year - you can't just take that away unless you get huge production from the run game.    I know his shoulder was messed up but he seems to know when to slide or run out of bounds.  This game he was turning up field moreso than not.

Bears finally have been getting production out of TE.  But for weeks, they trot Burton out there and got absolutely nothing.  If the guy was hurt he needed to be IRd.   We have no idea what Shaheen can do - might not ever find out.  Now Bears are playing free agents and non-drafted rookies and surprising teams who are most likely ignoring them on pass plays. 

Pass rush has almost totally disappeared.  Mack is not getting double teamed that much.  Just not getting the sacks.  He's trying just coming up short.  If Akeem Hicks can be about 80% - it could be huge.

Glad we kept Kwiatowski.  But this JPP may be better.  Given 10 days he may even learn the playbook against the Pack.

Solid offensive tackle play against the Cowboys.  #73 didn't get called out for any penalties.   It will be interesting what the Bears do with him vs Massie.  Big challenge coming against the Smith brothers in Green Bay.



Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on December 07, 2019, 11:47:31 pm

And my nomination for play of the game was the swing pass to Patterson to the left.  He turned nothing into a nice gain - awesome individual effort.

Trubisky needs to keeps drive alive with his legs.  Means more balls to our other receivers like Wims, Patterson and Ridley...and the no name TEs, and Montgomery. 

Still doesn't look good for the playoffs.  The Charger, Ram and Eagle games has pretty much forced Bears to win out and they'll probably need help too.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 08, 2019, 05:52:22 am
Dallas - Good to see you back.  JPP?  You mean KPL?  I love what we are seeing out of the tight ends.  I don't care how we finally got here, but it is one of the missing elements all season.  What is interesting is to see what we have in Horsted.  If he does become the real deal, the fact that we left him on the practice squad for really any team to swipe - and the didn't - could be a huge key the rest of this season and next.  He appears to be a larger version of Burton, and hopefully more durable.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davep on December 08, 2019, 01:36:28 pm
Interesting discussion point.  Payton had every tool, but lacked a top gear.  Barry Sanders had the top gear and every move in the book, but was a liability as a blocker, and so so in the passing game. 

Every great running back likely lacked something, one tool.

I don't remember anything about his blocking ability, but if I had to have one running back at the peak of his career for one game, it would be Gayle Sayers.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on December 08, 2019, 01:52:35 pm
Moving on to the Packers game. We flat out have to hit Erin. Erin does not like to get hit.

I hope Nagy realizes the packers 6 or 7 DBs in most of the game last time.They did not attack the Peckers D very well.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on December 08, 2019, 02:06:10 pm
Erin getting hit a lot today by Redskins. I hope that continues. Unfortunately Haskins is not a good QB.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on December 08, 2019, 02:16:44 pm
Looks like #55 Smith is hurt. hopefully out for the Bears game.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 08, 2019, 04:34:31 pm
I don't remember anything about his blocking ability, but if I had to have one running back at the peak of his career for one game, it would be Gayle Sayers.

I wasn't old enough to pay attention to Sayers until after his injury.

But when I see old games on TV I'm always impressed by how tough Sayers was.  He could take a beating.

The one thing I remember about Neal Anderson was he never tapped out like modern players.  Today a guy catches a pass he has to come off the field.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on December 09, 2019, 09:22:14 am
Too bad about Sayers knees - some of his knee injuries he had today he be out about 3 weeks. Modern medicine might have made Sayers the best NFL player ever. He also played in a time when the NFL was a lot dirtier - none of this flag football stuff.

He is a great guy - met him several times at charity events. He didn't like talking much about football - but the charity at hand - which was right.

I know he is not doing well right now physically. He had an extremely successful computer business.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 09, 2019, 06:08:22 pm
Met Sayers once at a ND ACC basketball game. A great gentleman. Injuries damaged his career. His overall numbers dont show what he really was prior to his major injury. He was truely a great player. Highly underrated by long term Bears fans.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on December 12, 2019, 10:51:56 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZysEDVgDCA
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on December 12, 2019, 11:26:11 am
the tape says Leno still sucks.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 12, 2019, 11:49:52 am
But we dont have 2 1st round pics to invest in replacing him. Face it. Thats reality. Grasp it Bill.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 12, 2019, 12:06:23 pm
I like the idea of moving Coward out to LT, or maybe Bars, sit Jay Leno, and play Larsen at RG. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on December 12, 2019, 12:55:00 pm
Is Massive worth keeping?

I am guessing Daniels and Whitehair.....and three new guy next year.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 12, 2019, 01:03:02 pm
No, he is not.  We seemed to have turned the corner when Lucas filled in for him.  Cut his asss.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 12, 2019, 01:09:32 pm
I keep bringing this point up, but it falls on deaf ears when I do. Pace came to us out of New Orleans. So how does New Orleans keep protecting Brees? Do they invest a 1st rounder on OLine each

year? NO. They pick up players late in the draft, like Bill's demon Leno. And they mold talent. We dont seem to have success doing that. Check out the starting OLine for New Orleans and where or how

they were acquired. That will show you how good teams build OLines.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 12, 2019, 01:15:26 pm
So your position is Leno and Massie are not being coached properly.  That very well could be, but when you look at the mistakes they make, week in and week out, over and over, it might be between the ears instead of a physical issue. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 12, 2019, 03:28:05 pm
They changed offensive line coaching systems with Hiestand. Part of the problem is the new system and the techniques he employs. A lot of it involves different techniques and skills and getting used

to those systems and techniques involved. What the problem is exactly, I dont know. But in my opinion the problem began with Hiestand and the new system. My guess is if Leno were to return to the

old system he would be fine. Maybe finding players that fit that scheme might be as easy to find. Its not about necessarily a higher draft position it appears to be adaptability. Its like Lucas he seems to

fit. It seems the whole left side is out of whack. And the Left tackle is the hardest to get right.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 12, 2019, 04:02:44 pm
The other part of the equation here thats ignored is that Leno worked beutifully next to Daniels at LG, even made probowl. So in addition to the technique switch there was the position switch which is

IMHO the wrong move. LG could be the real problem. And LT is much more difficult to replace than LG.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on December 12, 2019, 05:33:17 pm
I like the idea of moving Coward out to LT, or maybe Bars, sit Jay Leno, and play Larsen at RG.

No way in hell. Coward doesn't have the footwork to be a tackle, watch the tape, he's unsteady on his feet as a guard so he'll never make it as a tackle.

Catch how badly Lucas looked on this week's tape never lies? Just fell on his face a couple of times.

Daniels just gets overpowered. Big disappointment.

Nagy keeps running traps where he has the OL pulling all over the place, but our OL isn't athletic enough to make those kind of plays - you watch the tape and it looks like a freaking Chinese fire drill. He needs to quit the cute stuff, which even a good line would find difficult, and just play it straight.

Bears have gotten more out of Leno than anyone could have hoped for, he stinks, accept it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 12, 2019, 05:52:24 pm
I think they should spend 1 second on a tackle and look to FA for another.
I don't know what they think of Bars but they sure wont let him play.
I suspect Amakamura Dix and Trevathan will get offres more than they're worth so there will be roster work on defense.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on December 12, 2019, 06:55:18 pm
I love Trevethan but we got guys that can replace him, they have been showing that.

Prince will be a little tougher to replace, but he is definitely a weak spot on D.  Don't forget Haha is FA at end of season as well.


I personally would go

Rd 2 LT
Rd 2 DB
Rd 5 G
Rd 6 S
Rd 6 Best Player Available
Rd 7 K
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 12, 2019, 07:32:44 pm
Right now my preference is to trade down with both 2nd rounders and get as many extra picks as we can...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 12, 2019, 07:33:35 pm
(unless a stud drops to us...)
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on December 12, 2019, 11:14:30 pm
Hiber - we are fine at kicker. Pinero will only get better. He is #1 with most touch backs. He has a super strong leg.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on December 13, 2019, 06:08:45 am
I like Pinero, but would like to see them draft a kicker for competition.  7th rounders typically do not make team anyway and you can get one of the top college K's.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on December 13, 2019, 07:29:00 am
I like Pinero and he will only get better., but I do agree on the competition - if the guy id NFL quality. I eventually see him hitting field goes close to 60 yards. He is still learning the pressure.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 13, 2019, 10:53:58 am
Just remember, the NFL "Not For Long"
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davep on December 13, 2019, 12:36:38 pm
Hiber - we are fine at kicker. Pinero will only get better. He is #1 with most touch backs. He has a super strong leg.

I agree.  The Bears were foolish to let Gould go.  I hope they keep Pinero and give him a chance to gain accuracy with experience.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davep on December 13, 2019, 12:44:18 pm
Cutler is one of ten former players charged with fraudulent reimbursement of medical expenses.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on December 13, 2019, 02:07:36 pm
Wow. Jay has like 54 Million in the bank as well. I wonder if he lost money on investments.

Hey seems like a real idiot.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 14, 2019, 05:53:06 pm
Bears have averaged more points per game, 20.2 than the Packers, 18.8 over the last five games, therefore I'm going Bears over Packers 20-17.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 15, 2019, 07:39:41 am
This is a game the Bears could/should win.  But if it is the Bears vs the Packers AND the Refs, all bets are off.  If the Pack get away with 5 blatant face mask penalties, along with their usual OL holding, it is going to be a looooong day.   Go Bears.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on December 15, 2019, 12:00:55 pm
The bears still suck
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on December 15, 2019, 12:08:13 pm
punt
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 15, 2019, 12:19:54 pm
The oline is so bad.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 12:21:14 pm
**** BULLSHIT! 

Refs going to make sure the Packers win!

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 12:21:55 pm
That is a terrible call!

Why do we even watch the games when the refs decide who wins every week.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on December 15, 2019, 12:23:09 pm
That’s a bad call.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 12:27:00 pm
Refs 7 Bears 0.

Fvck this ****!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 15, 2019, 12:29:05 pm
Terrible, but really...who expected anything different?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 12:30:14 pm
I have already seen several holds as well and a block in the back.

Seriously why do we bother watching.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 15, 2019, 12:35:01 pm
I mean, the guy next to Patterson on the penalty had a handful of his jersey right before the hit...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 15, 2019, 12:37:13 pm
GB winning on the line on both sides of the ball.  Looks like Rodgers realizes he can beat Skrine whenever he needs to.  Probably looking at a blowout.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on December 15, 2019, 12:38:51 pm
The refs strike again.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on December 15, 2019, 12:39:17 pm
It just ruins the game.  The Bears recovered the ball on a perfect play by Patterson.  In a game with such a limited margin for error that call was a 10-14 point swing
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on December 15, 2019, 12:40:50 pm
I always see the refs smoking and joking before the game with the Packers coaches more than I ever see them with any other team.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 15, 2019, 12:41:03 pm
God the Bears suck... If they don't settle down and get something going this will be a blow out.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on December 15, 2019, 12:42:04 pm
It was perfect coverage, hit and fumble recovery. The NFL can’t have that happen to the Packers.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 15, 2019, 01:16:57 pm
Nice drive.  Special teams gives up a big return.  They can't let the packers score before the half.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 15, 2019, 01:18:05 pm
Terrible
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 15, 2019, 01:22:46 pm
I'd take a knee here
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 01:23:49 pm
Refs 7  Bears 3 at the half.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 01:25:00 pm
Should be Bears 10-0 or 6-0.

That was the worst call I have ever seen. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 15, 2019, 01:26:52 pm
At worst it should be Bears 3 Fudge Pack 0.  That was horrible call.  And it is nice to see Hicks out there with some energy, but he is have zero impact on Mack.  He is in his total invisible mode today.  Dude it doesnt get any bigger than this, get your shitt together and start making plays.  I mean even Floyd is trying. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 15, 2019, 01:27:52 pm
Lets see what happens in the second half.  If the refs have money on the game we will see more bogus calls.  Not surprising, just frustrating.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on December 15, 2019, 01:37:13 pm
halftime box score doesn't list Mack or either safety.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 15, 2019, 01:54:58 pm
Secondary has been awful today.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 01:56:15 pm
That was offensive pass interference.  But they won't call it even with the challenge.

The WR initiated contact at the start of the route.  That is what is being challenged. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 01:58:32 pm
Apparently the Bears defenders have all forgotten how to tackle...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 15, 2019, 02:05:06 pm
This game and season are now officially over.  Sigh.  I have been watching Mack, he is ONLY getting single teamed, not double or triple, and not only that he isnt even trying.  Pathetic.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 15, 2019, 02:09:46 pm
Mack is getting owned, 1 on 1, by the RT.  Pathetic.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 15, 2019, 02:12:24 pm
And an int grounding not called on Rogers, of course.  But there is the ticky tacky hold on the bears punt return.  They got big money on the Fudge.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 15, 2019, 02:12:39 pm
Every time I watch him, Mack is just trying the speed rush.  I haven't seen a bill rush or any inside moves.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 15, 2019, 02:19:44 pm
And a lot of times he isnt even really trying to speed rush.  And dumb ass NAGY with his challenge, that Patterson catch didnt look like his foot was out.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 15, 2019, 02:21:41 pm
Mack packed it in a long time ago...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 02:21:47 pm
That was in bounds.  But smart thing not to challenge.  It was to close they wouldn't over turn.

Just another fvcking by the refs.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 15, 2019, 02:23:24 pm
Oh boy,,,, 21-6... tight game..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 15, 2019, 02:23:47 pm
So that is two screw jobs by the refs vs the Bears.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 15, 2019, 02:26:37 pm
Sit Hicks til next season, over with..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 15, 2019, 02:32:46 pm
ANd there is the Leno penalty.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 15, 2019, 02:34:51 pm
WTF Leno!!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 15, 2019, 02:46:55 pm
That’s too bad...he was down...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 15, 2019, 02:55:22 pm
Well that will take care of that.  I have been drinking the kool aide way too heavy the last 2 weeks.  I was hoping for a miracle run to make the playoffs.  That was stupid on my part.  I guess it is just like the Cubs, wait until next year.  Wait a minute.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 15, 2019, 02:57:15 pm
Kwiatkowski keeps them in the game.  No more fukups allowed.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 15, 2019, 02:57:25 pm
Really dumb play by Rogers
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 15, 2019, 03:07:47 pm
Oline was awful.  Mitch was just a bit better.

 Robinson was definitely held/interfered with on that last play
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 15, 2019, 03:10:26 pm
Ok THAT will take care of it.  And no doubt a missed call by the refs, helllllllooooo PI, unless vs the Pack.  Yuck yuck yuck.  Well the good news is it doesnt matter what happens the rest of the year.  All I care about is the Pack doesnt win the SB.  That is all I want. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 03:11:11 pm
Bears can't catch a break.  Every lucky break went the Packers way.

That terrible call on the punt return was the difference.

Can't beat the Packers and the refs.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 15, 2019, 03:11:55 pm
So the refs screwed the bears THREE times.  I guess that is better than 5 missed face mask penalties, but what do we need to do to get the preferential treatment????
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 15, 2019, 03:12:41 pm
Fuuck the Pack AND the refs. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 15, 2019, 03:14:16 pm
Trubisky played a good game.

The glaring difference between these 2 teams is the offensive lines.

The packers protected rogers and had a running game while the Bears did not.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 15, 2019, 03:30:51 pm
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Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 15, 2019, 04:06:29 pm
O line, and with that the lack of a run game.. Huge.. I know Mitch threw that one pick at an inopportune time but I still think he will be at least serviceable if we can get an o line squared away..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 15, 2019, 04:07:45 pm
Everyone bitching about the o line.. Listening to WBBM..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 15, 2019, 04:08:22 pm
So, as we all know, the Oline is the major problem. They need two new tackles and a guard,IMO. Did Mack play today? 🙄
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 15, 2019, 04:32:01 pm
Mitch was really inaccurate today, especially on what looked like easy throws.  He had more than a few that were in a clean pocket that he threw at the receivers feet or over their head.  GB probably left 2 or 3 interceptions on the field.

Mitch was subpar today.  Oline was awful.  Bears secondary had their worst game of the year.  Packers WRs actually let them off the hook with a few timely drops.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 15, 2019, 04:49:40 pm
Mitch kind of called out Nagy in the post game presser. 
Rich Campbell (@Rich_Campbell) Tweeted:
In Bears QB Mitch Trubisky's postgame press conference, he answered a question about the Packers pass rush with some noteworthy commentary on today's play selection and game plan. https://t.co/Oq90urH7ng https://twitter.com/Rich_Campbell/status/1206338636708483072?s=20
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 04:52:59 pm
He isn't wrong.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 15, 2019, 04:56:08 pm
I agree.  I think today's play calling looked more like it did during the losing streak then it did during the past 4-5 games. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 05:02:30 pm
The Packers use a ton of DB's.  We still couldn't run against them.  We either need a new O-line or a new blocking scheme because what we have now is not working.  Not even a little bit.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 15, 2019, 05:25:25 pm
Glad to see Otto still around. Gotta have a village idiot in the land of idiots after all. The fact that he posted at all is proof he was scared :D

Well, the Bears did not disappoint (or rather, succeeded in disappointing). Par the normal for this franchise.....

Haven't watched the game in detail yet, but from someone not in the local market and seeing things though NFL redzone. It looked like Nagy forgot something.

 The Bears have 2 x 100 yard recievers in a game (a rarity if there was one) but no running game ? I didn't see Trubisky running at all (again it was Redzone which is the only place where they show Bears bad plays almost exclusively it seems. Seen more failed plays from them than any other team in the NFL).

Nagy takes an aggressive stands all game (all those poor 4th down tries) then goes for the **** FG? WTF

There is playing aggressive and just playing stupid. Nagy chose the latter. Just like with KC in the playoffs when he as OC....

I fear this team is just good enough to never be good enough....

Down on the Bears atm. Haven't seen the whole game yet but was not supprised by the outcome. If we have not realized it already, we are in football purgatory.....



Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on December 15, 2019, 05:36:34 pm
1. thought replay showed Patterson in bounds on that catch at the Pack 2 yd line.

2. on the interference with catching the punt Patterson clearly hit him after he caught ball - but I don't know the rule. Do you have to give the receiver a certain space?

3. tackling by DBs bad.

4. Play calling bad. OL bad. Mitch needs a running game, but the OL can't provide it.

5. where the hell is Mack? 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 15, 2019, 06:18:14 pm
Patterson was in bounds, this is a fail on the part of Nagy. There was no fair catch called, therefore there was no foul against Patterson, but it's the Packers we were playing.
The biggest difference, other than the horrid Oline play all season, from this year to last is very little pass rush. Mack has completely disappeared. Going forward, is he worth all they're paying him? I would have to say no at this point.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 15, 2019, 06:50:44 pm
I believe all the rule states is that you can’t impede the return guy’s ability to catch the punt.

The ball was clearly in his hands when contact was made.

Patterson couldn’t have timed it better. It was perfect.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 15, 2019, 06:50:56 pm
The left side of Patterson’s left foot was in the white which is why he was called out. 
On the return you have to give the returner 3 feet but I see plays where returners don’t seem to have that much space with no penalty called.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 15, 2019, 07:16:28 pm
We said the same thing about Favre.. For years..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 07:17:52 pm
Rarely does a team get two HOF QB's in a row.  I don't know of any to get three in a row.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 07:18:46 pm
Niners had Montana then Young.  I can't really think of any others besides Favre and Rodgers.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 07:21:21 pm
The left side of Patterson’s left foot was in the white which is why he was called out. 
On the return you have to give the returner 3 feet but I see plays where returners don’t seem to have that much space with no penalty called.

Pretty sure that is a rule in college not the NFL.  I see NFL players running right up to the punt returner all the time.  Also he did not signal fair catch.

They showed an angle that clearly showed a line of green between his foot and the sidelines.  All water under the bridge now.  It is just the typical treatment by the refs that every team gets when they play the Packers.  Can't wait until Rodgers retires so they can go back to sucking for the next 20 years plus.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 15, 2019, 07:21:50 pm
This team has no one stepping up and being the man.. Mack should be one of those guys... We gave a lot for Mack, I'm not seeing a valuable return. This was a game Mack needed to step it up. We're missing a lot of opportunity on offense. With a decent line we'd be talking about how great our rookie running back is. Or how Mitch is really starting to come around. I still think it's mostly the O line coach.. But then to be honest, WTF is up with Leno..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 07:22:02 pm
Pretty sure that is a rule in college not the NFL.  I see NFL players running right up to the punt returner all the time.  Also he did not signal fair catch.

They showed an angle that clearly showed a line of green between his foot and the sidelines.  All water under the bridge now.  It is just the typical treatment by the refs that every team gets when they play the Packers.  Can't wait until Rodgers retires so they can go back to sucking for the next 20 years plus.

I think I accidently edited Dave's post instead of quoting it in a reply.  Sorry for any confusion.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 07:23:05 pm
Hicks was playing on pure heart today.  I would say he stepped up big time.

He looked like he was having fun when he wasn't writhing in pain from his injury.  But then he would go right back out there.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 15, 2019, 07:23:21 pm
I think the 3 foot rule is college..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 15, 2019, 07:38:22 pm
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Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 15, 2019, 07:39:24 pm
Dave, he didn't call for a fair catch.  If he had you would be right.

The ball got there then Patterson lit him up!  It was a perfectly timed hit.  The receiver also was not moving forward, he was standing there waiting for the ball.

Should not have been a penalty.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 15, 2019, 07:42:26 pm
https://twitter.com/badsportsrefs/status/1206279350292819969?s=21
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 15, 2019, 07:44:28 pm
I know he didn’t call for a fair catch. That doesn’t matter.

Read Article 1 of the rules I posted. You have to give the receiver the opportunity to catch the ball.

CP did that. It was timed perfectly. The refs blew the call.
Title: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 15, 2019, 07:45:26 pm
“Regardless of whether any signal was given”...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on December 15, 2019, 08:06:58 pm
davebear, I agree with Pekin, I saw a line of green between his foot & the white out of bounds.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 15, 2019, 08:25:15 pm
Maybe right I may not have seen al the replay angles.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 15, 2019, 10:11:05 pm
It was a good play on Pattersons part and a blown call on the refs, but that's just how this season has gone...not much in favor of the Bears in anything....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on December 16, 2019, 04:53:12 am
Mack would have a lot more mojo if the offense gave at least an AVERAGE effort
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 16, 2019, 05:04:41 am
I have a hard time giving Mack a pass for any reason other than injury..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on December 16, 2019, 08:12:13 am
I don't condone his effort - but I understand...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on December 16, 2019, 08:22:05 am
I’m wondering if he is injured or never really recovered. In all the press you read he is the hardest working guy out there, it doesn’t seem like he is the type to skate by, especially if there was a chance at the playoffs.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on December 16, 2019, 08:33:02 am
I think Mack has been injured all year
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 16, 2019, 09:37:01 am
I think Mack checked out during the early part of the year when the O was really really struggling.  Draft Dr Phil said Nagy had lost some in the locker room, and I am thinking Mack is one of the guys.  And maybe Eddie Jackson as well.  It would appear that two FS dont do well, and Jackson hasnt really done squat this year with turn overs.  So Dix goes next year and we will need a SS to fill in.  Ugh.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 16, 2019, 10:01:31 am
This is a quote from 247 sports:

In a draft littered with talented offensive linemen, it's the Iowa tackle who is selected first. Wirfs has the look of a ten-year starter at either left or right tackle.

They have him going 3rd to the Ji-ANTS. But the key to the quote is "In a draft littered with talented offensive linemen". That should help us revamp our Oline.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on December 16, 2019, 02:39:58 pm
Your making an assumption that the current crew can pick good lineman. They picked this o line, so...….
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 16, 2019, 04:37:24 pm
I’m wondering if he is injured or never really recovered. In all the press you read he is the hardest working guy out there, it doesn’t seem like he is the type to skate by, especially if there was a chance at the playoffs.

There was something in  one of the Chi papers early in the season about Mack being injured but then nothing else and he wasn't on the injury report.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 16, 2019, 06:40:35 pm
Your making an assumption that the current crew can pick good lineman. They picked this o line, so...….

I made no such assumption, just that there seems to be good talent available, unlike recent years.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear2 on December 18, 2019, 01:44:09 pm

Leno's issue seems to be he loses focus.  Sunday he just starts drifting off the line of scrimmage on a screen pass like he doesn't even know what the damn play is.  Also had another offsides.  But I must say his pass blocking has improved the last few weeks.  Just had a hugely inconsistent year.

Whitehair had a huge miss that forced Trubisky to throw a crucial pick in the 4Q.  He's the best of the five.  Daniels is a decent pass blocker but not very good run blocker, in fact this has to be one of the worst run blocking teams in the NFL.

Lucas has surprised me with his pass blocking at RT.  He was beyond horrible in the PS at LT, but although awkward at time he stays with his man pretty well.  But again, not a people pusher.

Coward is the worst of the 5.  But it's his first year at guard after playing backup tackle in practice for a year. And before that he was a DE.  I know he sucks but its hard to blame him too much, but I'd absolutely go crazy if they put Bars in there these last 2 games.  RG could be the focus of one of our early picks next year.

If you watch other teams block.  Often times they will ignore one of the Bears d-lineman and focus on the other 3.  Often doubling 2 of the 3.  Then they slide off the double teams and go after the linebackers.  These are called combo blocks.  Running backs with decent vision and patience just wait for the hole to develop and usually get a few yards (like 3 or 4 compared to Bears 1).  More if Hicks is not in the lineup.    You just don't see the Bears O-line capable of doing this.  Is it talent or is it coaching?

And their current TEs, who I consider the 6th o-lineman don't provide much help either.  They miss so many blocks  And our top  3 guys that went on IR didn't do much better in that department.  TE could be the Bears first position choice in 2020.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 18, 2019, 02:47:29 pm
According to Draft Dr Phil, our OL guys dont fire off the line, stay low and win with leverage.  They routinely stand straight up and try to block like that.  Are they being coached to do that?  Beats me, but how many times on the tape do you see guys just standing around not blocking anyone, or blocking a teammate?  Whatever the problem, talent or coaching or both, it needs to get fixed or we are going nowhere.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 18, 2019, 04:11:34 pm
According to Draft Dr Phil, our OL guys dont fire off the line, stay low and win with leverage.  They routinely stand straight up and try to block like that.  Are they being coached to do that?  Beats me, but how many times on the tape do you see guys just standing around not blocking anyone, or blocking a teammate?  Whatever the problem, talent or coaching or both, it needs to get fixed or we are going nowhere.

Agree!!
Decent O line we'd have a couple more wins..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 18, 2019, 04:21:02 pm
When you run for a yard on first down the D then has a big advantage knowing you're going to pass.

The offense constantly has one hand tied behind its back like this.

Then the talk is who's to blame, Trubisky or Nagy.  It's the friggin blocking that's to blame!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 19, 2019, 01:15:55 am
I believe these O-line guys were brought on to block in Fox's scheme where they fired out.  Now they are asking them to zone block.  Which is where they use finesse to turn a guy to allow the runner through.  It is supposed to keep the D from knowing if it is a run or pass.

It isn't working.  Either bad coaching or the talent doesn't match up.

Notice the few times when they went to the I formation and did fire out they were able to move the ball?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 19, 2019, 06:10:47 am
And why dont they keep doing that then, especially if it works?  Just like Nagy trying to make Mitch a pocket passer and telling him not to run for the first 10 games of the season.  Stupid.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 19, 2019, 06:43:27 am
Stubbornness abounds... Nagy and his trick plays... Heistand and his whatever coaching... There may have to be some remedial firings in the offseason....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear2 on December 19, 2019, 10:28:08 am

What drives me nuts is on some of are pass patterns.  It's obvious there's a primary receiver and most of the time that's where Mitch is looking.

But often times the rest of the receivers are just running down the field stopping, turning towards the QB, and they just stand there.  The defender locks in on the guy and effectively takes the receivers out.

I understand that part of the reason for these patterns is to spread out the defense and keep them away from the primary target.  But at some point the primary target is covered and the guys have to work back to the QB.

I've seen Cohen in the middle of the field with some fatass linebacker standing behind him and wide open spaces to his left and right.  And he just stands there.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BearHit on December 19, 2019, 11:09:44 am
Go back to the old days where they hand out paychecks after the game
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 19, 2019, 02:49:32 pm
I think the first remidial firing should be Hiestand. He has done a very poor job IMHO.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 19, 2019, 03:08:48 pm
Pace and Nagy certainly need to examine and I'm sure they will.

Listening this season to talk on the subject of the OL from Tom Thayer, Olin Kreutz and Rich Campbell the type of linemen the Bears have put together are not drive blockers.  They're more scheme blockers who can  move their feet which is why they hired Heistand in the first place.
I haven't heard any of these guys or other media explain why it isn't working if the coach was hired to fit the personnel.

Either way they need to fix it
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 20, 2019, 07:23:26 am
I have no problem with losing Hiestand, but he was highly regarded at ND, and Kruetz raves about him.  But somewhere there is a major disconnect with the OL and the plays that are called/executed. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 20, 2019, 09:50:25 am
The Oline looks like those little football guys on the old-school vibrating football game (remember them ?). Spinning in circles and running into their out guys. :)

There is no reason to be THAT bad... Its got to be a perfect storm of wrong players and wrong coaching...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2019, 11:01:58 am
I've said the exact same thing, they look like the players from the vibrating football game-set them and they go and block the water boy on the sidelines. They are terrible....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 20, 2019, 11:48:07 am
Water boy? Here I thought they were females. LOL
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 20, 2019, 04:32:35 pm
Hell they even fall down in real life (looking at Leno especially ) like those little fellas did :D
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on December 20, 2019, 11:57:41 pm
contrary to many, I always thought Leno at LT needed to be upgraded. What shocks me is how bad Daniels is & how consistently he gets man-handled.

Holtz has blocked well as a FB, but on those traps where he pulls & comes all the way across the line to block the opposite side DE he simply gets killed.

I'd really like to see Bars replace Cowart for the last couple of games. Cowart obviously stinks. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 21, 2019, 07:34:16 am
Its funny that Daniels was such a highly regarded C prospect when we took him.  What the heck happened?  Not smart enough to call the line plays?  Doesnt know all the plays, he obviously isnt a mauler and gets pushed around a lot.  Is it a poor scheme fit or coaching or what.  Actually the whole OL has looked like crap, so I am at a loss.  And so is our wasted season.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 22, 2019, 06:07:05 am
Wasted days and wasted nights...... (old Freddy Fender song) :D

Time to see if this team has checked out for the year or whether they have the heart to try to win a pretty meaningless game. It will be a good indication if they have checked out on Nagy & Co or not...

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 22, 2019, 07:32:48 am
Well we know Mack has checked out.  I dont see us winning tonight.  I am probably going to tape the second half, no sense staying up to watch unless they are really lighting it up.  And who here thinks Nagy with his "CUTE" trick plays is going to outcoach Ried?  I suppose it could happen, but I dont see it. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 22, 2019, 07:36:38 am
Smart move, but speaks volumes:

The Bears downgraded defensive tackle Akiem Hicks to out for Sunday’s game against Kansas City.

Hicks had a full week of practice, and the Bears had listed him as questionable Friday.

The team activated him from injured reserve before Week 15, and he played 36 of 59 snaps against the Packers.

Hicks went on injured reserve in Week Five with an elbow injury.

The Bears already had ruled out receiver Taylor Gabriel (concussion) and right tackle Bobby Massie (ankle).
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 22, 2019, 10:11:28 am
Early Nagy was saying 'we're all going' meaning we're all playing. Someone with some brains decided otherwise and Hicks will sit....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 22, 2019, 01:50:00 pm
I think KC will show us what we could have had had they drafted right. Isn't going to be pretty, KC 42 Bears 20
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 22, 2019, 03:07:40 pm
it depends on which Bears team shows up. If it's the cashed it in Bears, I don't see 'em getting 20..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 22, 2019, 03:11:28 pm
What about Baltimore (another team), they're always there. I'm so sick of the Bears and their fukking once every 5 years we tease everyone... Just sick of it.. I would say, "well this is really hard", but then you look around and other teams do it. Other teams have a down year here and there. The Bears are total opposite, a decent year here and there..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 22, 2019, 06:34:45 pm
it depends on which Bears team shows up. If it's the cashed it in Bears, I don't see 'em getting 20..

Me either. And Reid has seen this offense before, meaning we wont see 20. Likely a couple of FGs
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 22, 2019, 06:47:15 pm
We shall see in 3 hours...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2019, 07:11:19 pm
The What Could Have Been Bowl
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on December 22, 2019, 07:26:36 pm
Three plays in - Nagy blows.  This cum catching piece of **** is a historically awful head coach.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on December 22, 2019, 07:29:07 pm
Nagy is a despicable ****.  He should be killed as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on December 22, 2019, 07:30:08 pm
Somewhere, Abe Gibron is shaking his head and saying "What the ****?".
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on December 22, 2019, 07:35:16 pm
Gesturing at the TV with a leg of lamb....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on December 22, 2019, 07:39:41 pm
If Matt Nagy's guts were on fire, would you **** in his mouth?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on December 22, 2019, 07:43:05 pm
letting kc convert every fuc_king third down isn't helping anything
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on December 22, 2019, 07:49:27 pm
I hate Pagano's defense. That prick went in untouched.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 22, 2019, 07:52:03 pm
Need some serious changes made in the off-season and some are not including just players. 😡
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on December 22, 2019, 07:52:09 pm
CuntBoy must go!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on December 22, 2019, 07:54:26 pm
This game is becoming rapidly unwatchable.  this team has laid down
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on December 22, 2019, 07:55:32 pm
End of first quarter and the boo birds are out....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on December 22, 2019, 07:56:51 pm
What do you expect when you're "led" by the worst coach in NFL history?

N A G Y   E A T S   A S S H O L E
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Chris27 on December 22, 2019, 08:14:01 pm
That deep throw to the other side of the field was well planned and open; Trubisky just isn't very good.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on December 22, 2019, 08:26:19 pm
Please fire Nagy.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 22, 2019, 08:28:50 pm
Are you kidding me?

LOL!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 22, 2019, 08:29:32 pm
Finally stop them after multiple penalties against them and we run into the kicker giving them a first down.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on December 22, 2019, 08:29:46 pm
One of the most poorly coached teams in the history of the league.  Nagy is in over his head.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on December 22, 2019, 08:35:41 pm
Nagy needs to put a loaded revolver in his mouth and pull the **** trigger.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 22, 2019, 08:36:54 pm
Chiefs aren't even playing good and they are handling the bears with ease. 

The secondary has been awful lately. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 22, 2019, 08:40:10 pm
Horrible half!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on December 22, 2019, 08:40:57 pm
Nagy is the worst.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: otto105 on December 22, 2019, 08:41:53 pm
Marc Trestmens best teams were worse.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on December 22, 2019, 08:42:12 pm
If I’m Virginia McCassky, I’m NOT HAPPY.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 22, 2019, 08:43:07 pm
Deserve to be booed off the field.  All the talk this week was about how Nagy has the team to giving effort in a meaningless game and we get this trash.  Sad part is the coaches look like they have no clue out there.

**** poor fundamentals and a shaky game plan again this week.  We got all these turds for another year too.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 22, 2019, 09:02:31 pm
Larsen is in for coward.  About three weeks too late.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on December 22, 2019, 09:11:58 pm
Please make Nagy go away.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 22, 2019, 09:14:34 pm
I don't even care if they win.  Just look like a professional football team.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 22, 2019, 09:15:38 pm
Why does Nagys below average playcalling go to hot garbage in the red zone?  This guy is a moron. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on December 22, 2019, 09:15:58 pm
No professional football team would ever employ the ridiculous Matt Nagy.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on December 22, 2019, 09:23:45 pm
If they are this bad again next year, they could fire Pace with one year left in his contract and maybe Nagy with two. I sure don’t want Pace drafting the next Mitch Grossman.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 22, 2019, 09:23:45 pm
This is so bad. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on December 22, 2019, 09:29:50 pm
Maybe Ted Phillips can hire a search firm to find a consultant.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: JeffH on December 22, 2019, 09:31:44 pm
Maybe Ted Phillips can hire a search firm to find a consultant.

He would have to stop jerking off first.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 22, 2019, 09:45:12 pm
Wims has been bad tonight.  Cohen is awful.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 22, 2019, 09:55:07 pm
Wims has what, 3 drops this game?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 22, 2019, 09:56:00 pm
Chiefs are the superior team in every way.  But catching the football that hits your hands is football 101.  I hope he never sees another game in a Bears uniform after next week.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 22, 2019, 09:59:47 pm
Which player, lol. I can name a few...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 22, 2019, 10:00:31 pm
Wims.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 22, 2019, 10:05:06 pm
Cohen had a wide open first down and ran out of bounds like always...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 22, 2019, 10:05:55 pm
He might have taken it all the way but no runs out of bounds.  Why does he do that?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 22, 2019, 10:13:40 pm
Reid could have scored 40+.  Nagy needs to be thankful that the score wasn't more embarrassing.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 22, 2019, 10:18:08 pm
So I was wrong....we couldnt score 2 FGs, only one.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 22, 2019, 10:20:32 pm
Collinsworth is right the only offensive weapon the bears gave us Robinson and he would be third option on the chiefs
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 22, 2019, 10:30:59 pm
Robinson and Miller would both be 1000 yard receivers if we had Mahomes at QB.

4th and 23, and you check down? What in the ****?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 22, 2019, 10:36:52 pm
Miller is usually just average
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on December 22, 2019, 10:40:09 pm
Total embarrassment on national TV - we're getting used to it.

Nagy again starts out conservatively and fails to utilize the middle of the field.  It's like he has this fear of the middle and it takes him a quarter or two before we see any passes inside the hash.

Defensively, we don't have DBs that can stay with KC receivers actually any NFL caliber receivers - they depend solely on a pass rush.

Basically, this team lacks size....lacks speed...lacks strength.  And our QB constantly missing big plays week in and week out. 

Two pass plays over 40 yards - the entire season!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on December 23, 2019, 02:28:55 am
that Buster Skrine guy sucks. Prince Amukamura is done.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 23, 2019, 02:38:32 am
Prince has sucked all year.  I would say Skrine has actually played better then him imo.  Both have had ups and downs.

I think the DC sucks.  I hate the way he has our DB's playing.  Bailing out constantly sucks.  It doesn't work unless our DL get there in a flash.  They haven't been getting to the QB since the first few weeks of the season.

Adjust or GTFO!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 23, 2019, 02:42:51 am
It is beyond obvious that the offense Nagy wants to run needs a TE that can block and catch the ball in the middle of the field.  We never attack the middle of the field.  Always the sidelines and Cohen can't wait to get out of bounds.

When is the last time we have seen a middle screen?  When we go I formation and attack up the middle with our OL running down hill we have success.  Why don't we do that more?

I get that isn't Nagy's offense but if that is what the D is giving you then keep doing it until they take it away.  Then go back to the offense you want to run.

 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 23, 2019, 06:16:31 am
I see nothing to build upon come next season. We have a very average QB that isn't a franchise QB, average wideouts that lack speed, a coach who once again in the mold of Bears coaches is clueless, a scared D coord, no picks in the first round again and if we did we still have Pace who would find the lump of coal amidst the diamonds and move up to get him. This team.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 23, 2019, 06:30:16 am
<RANT ON>
Well, this team was Nagy'd. As in screwed, **** proper and told to get the hell out of here.....

You knew it was going to be a bad night on the 1st offensive drive when they were moving the ball (albeit mostly on Trubisky's legs) and Nagy calls one of his dip-shitty trick plays that goes for a loss. Offense didn't get going again until like the 3rd quarter (and failed at the goal line).....

A further indictment of the futility of this team is that stat that the Bears are the ONLY team in the NFL not to have a 40+ offensive play this season. Let that sink in for a second. The Bungals, Lololions, Jests and ALL the bad teams with worse records each have more 40+ plays than the Bears.....

Nagy is an offensive coach.. very offensive. Hell, he should've been a Defensive coordinator- he sure knows how to stop an offense....

And while on the subject of bad coaching, Pagano can go pound sand as well. Using Mack to chip the TE instead of turning him loose to pass rush ? What kind of stupidity is that ? Effectively it means Reid used a TE to take out a great pash rusher (when he did rush he was pretty damn good) alone instead of having to always double team him from the start. BAD BAD coaching. Pagano GTFO here.....

Don't get me started on Pace.. :D

<RANT OFF>

Well, got another year or two of this drek left until they blow it up and start over. On the bright side, it seems they can always beat the Lions......


Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 23, 2019, 07:13:00 am
Where to start... Is there really anything that we can hang our hat on? I went to bed when it was 17 to zip.. This was Trestman bad.. May as well sit the starters, wouldn't play em during preseason, why play em now. Play some guys that want to play. Is there any way they don't fire Pagano? Actually, if it were me, Id fire everyone, from the top on down.. The fukking water boy would be looking for another job, the hot dog vendor, everyone... Somehow, they better figure out a way to let the fans know they're going to try to fix this mess. Of course, how do you fix this with Pace running the show.. What a mess.. I said it before, I'm sick of this team, sick of the losing. Every 5 years we get a crumb thrown our way, then it's back to losing. Other teams consistently win, why can't the bears. Quit making excuses! Why can't the Bears win consistently?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 23, 2019, 07:16:45 am
Watch, they won't change anything. Add a few free agents, draft a few head scratchers.. They'll change nothing. I know Mitch is fukking up, but I blame the coach. Mahomes didn't just come into the league ready to play. He was coached up by Reid. Nagy is terrible!

I can't get over how bad the defense is.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 23, 2019, 07:51:28 am
Trubisky isn't accurate when he has all day to throw. He's a bust, flat out, plain and simple. Bears can waste their time trying to put lipstick on a pig, but they'd be better off looking elsewhere next season. At the very least, bring in a lot of competition for the spot. After all, every Bear fan saw last night would could have been with a good QB. The wheels are off this team, and how to fix it.....good fricking luck.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 23, 2019, 07:53:41 am
I had a real bad feeling about this game before it started, and decided, with the help of a lot of beer, to just tape the game and go to bed.  Glad I made that decision.  I will watch it, just to see how bad we were, but 3 points?  I assume the OL was putrid as usual, and sounds like the D was the same.  I was thinking yesterday Pagano needs to go, he doesnt seem to have the players inspired like Fangio did.  Not sure who you replace him with, but lets get someone. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 23, 2019, 08:00:14 am
Who thinks the guys on this board could outdraft Pace? I believe it.....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 23, 2019, 09:58:30 am
I can promise you one damn thing.

Chad fuckin Kelly wouldn’t check it down on 4th and 23.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 23, 2019, 10:20:09 am
Questions that should have been asked of Nagy by the "reporters" after this game...

1. What is wrong with this offense ? (if he says some bullshit where he deflects the blame thats its not that bad, counter with "So you think this offense is good ?")

2. What confidence can you give the fans that you and your coaching "staph" can fix this ?

3. What reasons can you give for being HC of the Bears next season ?

(After that I'd get tossed out of the presser and never let back in again) .... :D
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: 46 on December 23, 2019, 10:28:00 am
How many of these games have we watched on national tv ? The 4th and 23 dump pass was the icing on the cake. Lessee... finally get a stop and run into the kicker, converting on 3rd and 23 (hint Pagano
rushing three doesn't work against that kid and those receivers)dbs bailing every fuc_king play, like the other team didn't know that. Bears need to get someone other than shawn Payton's personnel
assistant to manage the team. Also finally need to retire Ted's fat ass. Never will sell the team though. Too bad.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on December 23, 2019, 03:53:01 pm
hint Pagano rushing three doesn't work against that kid and those receivers

Bears had that late timeout and benefited from getting a sneak peak of what happens when you rush 3 against Mahomes.

So the Bears brain trust huddle up and again rush 3.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: hibernationsuxs on December 23, 2019, 05:21:30 pm
Read a tweet on twitter and said... Pace's biggest draft mistake was not drafting M. Trubusky instead of Mahommes, it was drafting A. Shaheen over G. Kittle....let that one sink in.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear on December 24, 2019, 11:43:17 pm

Actually, Shaheen had the better draft grade.   Kittle was 2 inches shorter and 40 lbs lighter.

Kittle came from a proven program in a pro style offense and approaches blocking according to Lance Zierlein ike an offensive lineman.

And Kittle runs a 4.53 40 - Shaheen was a converted basketball player with size playing in a small school program.  Ran  a 4.79.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 25, 2019, 10:41:25 am
Merry Xmas everyone....

I'd find the scout who gave good grades to Shaheen and do some research into his other grades... Chances are that the guy is incompetent or lazy (or maybe even a Packer mole :D)...


Something in common with Trubisky having the same problems over and over..... Dave Raggone. He'd should have been shown the door on day 1....



Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 25, 2019, 11:18:47 am
All this nonsense is the exact reason why I dropped the NFL ticket years ago. Pay over $200 to watch this garbage. Plus, with all the nationally televised games it's just not worth it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 25, 2019, 04:51:18 pm
I'm a glutton so I went with SlingTV and redzone this year. It is great to watch 7 or so hours of relatively free commerical football. Although sometimes the late slate of games is limited to 2 or 3 because of other scheduling...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 26, 2019, 11:38:48 am
I'm a glutton so I went with SlingTV and redzone this year. It is great to watch 7 or so hours of relatively free commerical football. Although sometimes the late slate of games is limited to 2 or 3 because of other scheduling...

That's what I have, Sling.. I have the redzone on. Then I listen to the game on WBBM on the internet..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on December 26, 2019, 01:12:43 pm
Freeaking Pace went down to NC over and over to scout Trubisky. Apparently with no presure Mitch can hit anything....but give him game speed, plays, 300 pund guys chasing him he is atrocious.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 26, 2019, 04:22:50 pm
I watched most of the Bears games using the NFL service (I watch games I know were very bad in shortcut mode, the rest in full broadcast mode)....

Not sure what I'll do next year. Probably Sling but maybe Youtube TV may get into the mix (rumors only). I've had no problem with Primes Thursday games and they are rich enough to try to grab some more market if they wanted to....

Redzone FTW for sure.... :D

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 26, 2019, 06:27:35 pm
What is "NFL Service"?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 26, 2019, 07:22:24 pm
I'm guessing he's talking about the "watch after the game was played". I think that's a $100...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 27, 2019, 06:27:02 am
Yeah the NFL gamepass. It cost me like $70.00 this year (had an e coupon from somewhere that reduced the price). They posted the games like within an hour of the end of the broadcast (although it takes half a day for the condensed version to appear)....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 27, 2019, 11:04:20 am
Lets see if we can make another scrub QB look like Joe Montana:

The Vikings are booked for the sixth seed in the NFC playoffs whether they win, lose or tie their game against the Bears on Sunday and it appears they will be taking the cautious approach with several starters as a result.

Courtney Cronin of ESPN reports that the team is expected to sit Kirk Cousins for the game. Sean Mannion would make the second start of his career. His first came under similar circumstances for the Rams in Week 17 of the 2017 season.

Vikings head coach Mike Zimmer said earlier this week that he hadn’t made any call, but the fact that Minnesota’s locked into its spot makes it unsurprising that they’d opt to focus on planning for the postseason.

Cronin doesn’t name any other names, but one imagines that running back Dalvin Cook, linebacker Eric Kendricks and any other player with an injury concern would be on the bench to rest up ahead of the team’s road trip in the Wild Card round.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 27, 2019, 01:46:41 pm
https://youtu.be/wwNV3rKeQgc
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 27, 2019, 03:54:13 pm
Leno...has got to go. Anyone here disagree?? If you DO, you have not been paying attention to this clown all fricking season long!! He's TERRIBLE!!! This line needs blown up and redone. Blown the H up and redone.....it's disgusting!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 27, 2019, 03:57:19 pm
One guy that shined all season long- Patterson. GET THIS GUY involved in the offense more! He gets in, he makes plays. Use him at TE, use him at RB, use him as a wideout. HE MAKES PLAYS. Nagy is a freaking bonehead....I don't have any confidence he's the guy to get us where this teams wants to be and that's in the SB.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 27, 2019, 05:31:23 pm
My thing is. I don't want to just get to the Superbowl. I want a team that wins consistently. We'll have a winning season, then fall off the face of the earth for 4 years. It's one thing to have a down year here and there. This is becoming hard to watch year after year..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 27, 2019, 06:05:43 pm
https://youtu.be/wwNV3rKeQgc
I can't bring myself to watch it.  Anyone want to give me a rundown on who was the most awful last week?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 27, 2019, 07:01:13 pm
Leno...has got to go. Anyone here disagree?? If you DO, you have not been paying attention to this clown all fricking season long!! He's TERRIBLE!!! This line needs blown up and redone. Blown the H up and redone.....it's disgusting!

I do unless we have two to replace him. LTs are too hard to find. I dont want to flush Leno down the toilet while installing a rookie in his place.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on December 28, 2019, 07:15:00 am
I can't bring myself to watch it.  Anyone want to give me a rundown on who was the most awful last week?

I'm in the same boat... Can't "bear" to watch..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 28, 2019, 09:34:47 am
The whole OL looked like the Keystone Cops.  Wims was horrid.  Mitch made a few head scratching plays, especially when he handed off to Montgomery when he should have kept it and ran. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 28, 2019, 12:04:10 pm
I'm in the same boat... Can't "bear" to watch..

I’ve missed l less than 25 games since 1968 but rather than go to a sports bar I’ll skip this one.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 29, 2019, 06:29:09 am
I've not missed a game since the mid-90s (although most after the fact not live). Needless to say I've seen a lot of subpar football, unworthy of the cornerstone franchise of the NFL.....

Today is one of those games that will be "sub-par". Let's see how the team is (having packed up the U-hauls and such) and the energy levels. We KNOW the game planning will be sub-par... let's see if the heart and execution are there (I won't hold my breath)......

Watching LSU yesterday and I was under the impression they could compete and win over the bottom 3rd of the NFL... After that dismantling (albeit against a depleted team) now I think they could do that to the bottom 2/3rds of the NFL. What a good, complete team. Something the Bears haven't been this century and at least 15 years before that.....

If they stand pat and make no coaching changes (Oline, QB, WR, hell the whole offensive staff) there is NO chance that will change. They gotta shake off the crap-ola they've fallen into....

That said... Go Bears !
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 29, 2019, 07:48:05 am
Since we will be playing the Vikes second string, there is no reason we should not win.  HOWEVER, if the team has checked out, and are not buying Nagy and his stuff, they are going to loaf to a miserable loss.  No real incentive for either team I guess, although the Vikes would probably like to go into the playoffs on a winning streak....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 29, 2019, 11:57:32 am
Coward is inactive.  I hope we see Bars out there in his spot.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on December 29, 2019, 12:06:53 pm
Comical first play. Second play comical too.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 29, 2019, 12:24:40 pm
This **** is unwatchable.

We’re playing their 2nd string, and still doing nothing but 3-4 yard pass plays. Dink and dunk against their motherfucking backups...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 29, 2019, 12:28:29 pm
Nagy is stubbornly making it clear he doesn’t understand passing sideways doesn’t work.

The OL can’t block a second string line......fitting
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 29, 2019, 12:29:07 pm
We’re not learning **** kicking red zone FGs in a meaningless game. All we’re doing is losing draft position...

I’m sure the Vikings know this, too...they are smart, and we are fools.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 29, 2019, 12:50:47 pm
Cohen running to the sidelines.  Again...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 29, 2019, 12:51:39 pm
Why is your starting WR returning kicks in a meaningless game?

Why not see who else can do it?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 29, 2019, 12:52:58 pm
This whole team needs an enema.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 29, 2019, 12:56:20 pm
Nice play Bush!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 29, 2019, 01:01:07 pm
Pauly’s kid gets us 2 points!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 29, 2019, 01:01:29 pm
Expose the lizard people!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 29, 2019, 01:03:38 pm
WHEN WHEN WHEN has the wide receiver screen ever worked
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 29, 2019, 01:09:28 pm
Keep throwing it sideways, ****! It’s working great!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 29, 2019, 01:11:15 pm
I don't know why the Vikings don't blitz every down.  The Bears have no answer for it.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 29, 2019, 01:12:22 pm
By all means...kick another FG...ass...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 29, 2019, 01:20:24 pm
So Floyd needs to go next year, along with Lynch, and see ya Ho Ho Clinton Pricks.  Leno and Lucas are the absolute WORST OT combo in the NFL.  On a good note, KPL and Kwait look like they want to play.  Mack is having another loaf/do nothing game so far.  I feel kind of dirty after watching such a terrible 1st half.  I have no doubt their scrubs are going to out play Nagy in the second.  And why, oh why, is Mitch not rolling out and throwing????  Oh yeah, Nagy.  Nuff said.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 29, 2019, 01:22:41 pm
Packers with a first round bye at stake sleeping on the Lions
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 29, 2019, 01:25:49 pm
Dont worry the refs want the Pack to get the first round bye. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 29, 2019, 01:36:45 pm
Montgomery is a keeper. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 29, 2019, 01:44:07 pm
Nagy and Pace have a thirst for this win.  It'll be easier for fa recruiting with an 8-8 season.  Also turns down the temperature on the hot seat.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 29, 2019, 01:50:37 pm
Worst screen team I've ever seen
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 29, 2019, 01:52:21 pm
How do you recruit to a train wreck?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 29, 2019, 02:10:05 pm
Leno is so bad.  I don't get how they don't sit him and give anyone else a chance to not be a turnstile.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 29, 2019, 02:28:42 pm
Our O-line sucks azz!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 29, 2019, 02:32:15 pm
LOL!  they are going to lose to back ups. 

Pathetic!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 29, 2019, 02:33:09 pm
Leno punked once again...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 29, 2019, 02:35:44 pm
Leno has to go....this guy couldn't start anywhere else the way he plays....well, maybe the Browns...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Dave23 on December 29, 2019, 02:35:56 pm
Not just backups...backups on a halfass team...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on December 29, 2019, 02:38:32 pm
The “pass blocking” just scraped out a new bottom
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 29, 2019, 02:41:14 pm
As Oct said, how do they not give anyone capable of playing the Oline a chance at that left tackle spot knowing all-season-long that Leno has been a huge problem on that line?? It's unfathomable....he's terrible!
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on December 29, 2019, 02:42:31 pm
I'd cut Trubisky tomorrow and start over. Darft a QB and bring in Teddy Bridgewater
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 29, 2019, 03:02:54 pm
We need comp at QB no question.  Bridgewater/Mariota/whoever.  Funny how Nagy played Bars at TE and Montgomery was dominant, then Nagy stopped doing that.  Dumb Ass.  And yes Jay Turnstyle Leno has to go, no matter the cost.  And sorry but Mack had ZERO stats again, I wish I had a dollar for every play I saw him just standing around doing nothing, AGAINST BACKUPS!!!!  He should have padded his stats big time. 

The Bears didnt deserve to win, but I guess I am glad they did.  Just frustrating.  And if GB wins, just puke.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 29, 2019, 03:07:10 pm
8-8

Barely beat a bunch of back ups.

Not a very satisfying win but a fitting end to a horrible season.

I am not sure how they get this fixed in one season.

Do you fire Pace and Nagy?  I would hate to waste another season under these guys if nothing is going to change.

They have very little cap space so forget any big free agent signings.  They have no first round pick so forget that.

If you keep Pace and Nagy I think you have to add O-line help in free agency.  Then hope Trubisky gets it with another year in the system and a better O-line.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 29, 2019, 03:09:26 pm
Put me down in the replace Pagano camp also.  We need an upgrade for Floyd, and a motivated Mack.  With Roquan back, along with Kwait and and KPL, maybe bring Trevethan back, the D doesnt worry me.  Maybe replace Prince at CB.  Oh and Dix for sure. 

On O, BOTH OTs please, although that wont happen, and 1 or 2 OGs.  Funny how Gabriel has been out with concussion for what the last 5-6 weeks.  Seriously what is up with that?  I think we are good at RB and WR, but man do we need a TE.  And Burton/Shaheen is NOT the answer. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 29, 2019, 03:10:44 pm
Definitely need to bring in some competition at QB.  Not a clip board holder/cheerleader like Daniels.  Actual competition.  Someone who might flourish in this system.

Not going to get that from the draft with no first round pick.  So going to have bring someone in as a free agent.  That will likely eat up most of the cap space they have.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 29, 2019, 03:11:07 pm
This game was like Star Wars the Rise of Skywalker.  It left me feeling empty and wanting so much more.  But it was at least a NFL game.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 29, 2019, 03:16:59 pm
Disagree on the cap space.

Look at the players they're not going to resign.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 29, 2019, 03:19:50 pm
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2020/

10.5 million in cap space isn't much and has them ranked at 27th in the NFL.   The league average is 53 million.

The Packers have 34 million in cap space and that is who we have to catch.

Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 29, 2019, 03:22:18 pm
Keep in mind we have a lot of contracts expiring (lots of one year deals) so that is a lot of players that have to be replaced.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 29, 2019, 03:23:09 pm
This was our window and it may have just closed.  Nothing is impossible but this team needs so much help.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: stelz on December 29, 2019, 03:35:28 pm
They need to take a hard look at the OL including coaching...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on December 29, 2019, 03:36:36 pm
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2020/

10.5 million in cap space isn't much and has them ranked at 27th in the NFL.   The league average is 53 million.

The Packers have 34 million in cap space and that is who we have to catch.

Thats not accurate.  It doesn't take into consideration players not resigned.  Do you understand if you don't resign players like long, Trevathan Amakamura their salaries don't count against next years cap?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 29, 2019, 03:57:36 pm
No more talking about windows.  We need to build something sustainable that is at least a 10 win season every year.  fix the offensive line will be a big start.  Remove playcalling from Nagy.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 29, 2019, 04:27:19 pm
Gabriel, amukamura and long will all be likely cuts. I think that's around 17 million right there. 
I think Pace has enough cap + picks to band aid the glaring holes and make them competitive next year.  His job probably will depend on it and he needs to be nearly perfect.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 29, 2019, 05:24:35 pm
Thats not accurate.  It doesn't take into consideration players not resigned.  Do you understand if you don't resign players like long, Trevathan Amakamura their salaries don't count against next years cap?

I am quite aware that players who are not under contract will not count against the cap.  I am pretty sure so is a website that figures teams salary caps.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/chicago-bears/
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 29, 2019, 05:28:11 pm
Long is under contract next year.  Cutting him will save about 8 million.  Trevathon is not under contract so his salary isn't counted at all.  The savings is already figured in.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on December 29, 2019, 05:29:25 pm
Looks like we can save about 3 million by cutting Leno but will have 7.4 million in dead money by doing so.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 29, 2019, 06:00:46 pm
Irregardless with how much it costs to replace Leno, he absolutely needs to go. This is glaring hole numero uno that needs repaired. Fixing him alone will help the team. Heard a stat today about Patterson, that he's like the number one running back when it comes to ypc or something? Heard it listening to Arkush on the Score. They were saying it's unfathomable they weren't using him at back and at wideout. He hated the idea of him at TE, though, which I disagree with. I think he could be used successfully there at times. But the point that was made was that Nagy has a huge weapon he is not using correctly. What-a-surprise, huh. We've seen this with other coaches we've had. We could have some 'hole fixers' being used improperly or sitting. What's with Ridley just now finally getting some time? Nagy is a bozo....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: octagon on December 29, 2019, 07:20:56 pm
I'm just getting a chance to watch the 4th quarter.  On that strip sack, it almost was like Leno was doing everything possible to not block his guy.  I've never seen a lineman do consistently ineffective.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on December 29, 2019, 08:05:00 pm
At the end of the first quarter with the Bears at the Vikings 9 yard line Lucas blows his blocking assignment, lets his guy go & blocks a guy the right guard was already blocking. Sack, Bears settle for 3.

At least Coward was benched today.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on December 29, 2019, 11:27:07 pm
These guys truly are like the electronic vibrating linemen. Turn it on, they go who knows where. I agree with Oct in that in more than one game we've seen these linemen act like they're blocking air while their guy gets to the QB. How is this possible on a supposed NFL team??? And how can it still be a issue in the last game of the season??? Everyone involved with the Oline from coaches to players needs to go.....how can they not as bad as they are??
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: wmljohn on December 30, 2019, 06:02:21 am
Bring in Bill Callahan as O-line coach when the Redskins announce he is not coming back next year.  Have him lure Trent Williams.  Bring in Pat Schurmur as OC when the Giants let him go.

That would be nice if it were possible.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on December 30, 2019, 07:53:33 am
If we had a turnstyle at LT at least it would provide momentary delay before the eventual sack.  Leno doesnt even do that.  Regardless the cost he needs to go.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 30, 2019, 09:43:26 am
The first response is to can the OLine coach. Without that we are hopeless. He has to go. He is the key to the problem. Even Long would be an improvement.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on December 30, 2019, 10:04:39 am
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2019/12/29/chicago-bears-takeaways-season-finale-minnesota-vikings-2019/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davep on January 01, 2020, 09:53:05 am
The turnaround in Leno was amazing.  Last year he was, at worst, an adequate offensive tackle.  This year he was one of the worst I have seen in years.  He is not old enough to have that much of a decline in performance in a single year.  In my opinion, there can only be two possibilities.

1. He has been injured all year.  But there is absolutely no indication that his performance is the result of injury.

2. His coaching has been horrible.  If he has been adequate in the past, and is not injured, then the coach must not be getting the performance out of him that is necessary.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: boogie on January 01, 2020, 09:58:16 am
He may not be smart enough to run the scheme that Nagy wants run.  How many times have we seen the tape where he is just standing around or blocking his own teammate or lets a rusher go right by him.  Then again, most of the guys on the OL have done the same thing.  I am going with coaching and scheme.  Which is sad as Hiestand was a college OL coach with a good resume. 
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on January 01, 2020, 02:04:28 pm
The O line was the biggest problem..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Sportster on January 01, 2020, 03:38:00 pm
Leno looks fat, slow and lazy all wrapped up in a rotten burrito....
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on January 01, 2020, 08:59:50 pm
Well Hiestand is gone. Leno should snap out of his problem now.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: Pekin on February 02, 2020, 04:47:20 pm
I am picking the Niners.

Who you got?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on February 02, 2020, 05:55:27 pm
I can’t pick against Mahommes.

Maybe the 9ers DL rush will keep him in check
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on February 02, 2020, 08:38:06 pm
I was thinking all along that SF with their D and running game might be a tough game for KC. I’m rooting for KC though.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on February 02, 2020, 09:05:09 pm
Funny how both QB’s made a lot of “Trubisky like” mistakes when under pressure.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on February 03, 2020, 04:56:13 am
KC=offense
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on February 03, 2020, 05:38:31 am
Looks like Sherman won't have to worry about visiting the White House...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: BillSharp on February 03, 2020, 07:02:19 am
49er defense collapsed in 4th quarter, Chiefs defense stout in 4th quarter.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: VJ on February 03, 2020, 07:29:22 am
Not knowing then what I know now, I still would have taken Watson over Trub or Mahomes 10 out of 10 times.  I just wish Nagy or a QB guru HC was hired by the Bears before the 2017 draft and maybe there might have been another strong voice in the room that at the very least could have prevented Pace from doing that dumbass trade.  I'm happy for Reid.  And I still f*cking hate the 49ers because of Jan 85/89.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: navigator on February 03, 2020, 07:54:51 am
Yeah, I rarely pull for th 9’ers. They are up there with Dallas, NE and the Packers for me.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear2 on February 03, 2020, 09:54:39 am

No team is up there with the Packers.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: WshflThinking on February 03, 2020, 10:47:58 am
Amen. Packers in a class by themselves
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on February 03, 2020, 11:05:17 am
Not a niners fan, but that pound the ball with good D is my kinda football. Yep, I haven't forgotten that '84 season. I went to DC and witnessed the Bears beat the skins. Then Walsh and the niners unmercifully embarrassed the Bears. Needless to say, Ditka and Walsh weren't best buds. The next season is when Ditka ran the Fridge in for a TD to throw it back in Walsh's face.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on February 03, 2020, 11:07:18 am
Out of all sports teams, I hate the baseball Cardinals the most.. I hate them more than the Packers..
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on February 03, 2020, 11:43:13 am
Not a niners fan, but that pound the ball with good D is my kinda football. Yep, I haven't forgotten that '84 season. I went to DC and witnessed the Bears beat the skins. Then Walsh and the niners unmercifully embarrassed the Bears. Needless to say, Ditka and Walsh weren't best buds. The next season is when Ditka ran the Fridge in for a TD to throw it back in Walsh's face.

Wasn’t it after that year that the 9ers came to Chicago for a cold weather playoff game and won.

All the talk was the Bears would win because of the cold and the players came out in short sleeves.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: guest118 on February 03, 2020, 12:01:09 pm
I believe the 49ers won 28 to 3. I was on freaking airplane back then and couldn't watch the game. F-ing pilot kept annoucing the score. That was the days of VCRs and bad recordings - I did not watch the tape.

It says 1989
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: dallasbear2 on February 03, 2020, 12:26:06 pm

The cold weather advantage usually, not always, works when your opponent is a dome team.

The NFL routinely schedules the Vikes and Lions to visit Soldier Field in September/October...never December.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on February 03, 2020, 03:13:11 pm
Yep, ass whoopin... I think the Bears beat the niners earlier that season ('88), 10-9...
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on February 03, 2020, 03:14:23 pm
The other one was Joe Gibbs and the skins.. was it 2 seasons in a row that the skins knocked the bears out of the playoffs?
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: davebear on February 03, 2020, 05:35:56 pm
ARRGGGGJHHH. The Darrell Green punt return.

Those were the years after JimFinks left and the contracts guy Jerry Vanisi was GM.

Ditka handled personnel and was going with guys like Fuller Harbaugh and Tomczak.
Title: Re: Today’s Game 2019
Post by: chifaninva on February 03, 2020, 07:05:16 pm
ARRGGGGJHHH. The Darrell Green punt return.

Those were the years after JimFinks left and the contracts guy Jerry Vanisi was GM.

Ditka handled personnel and was going with guys like Fuller Harbaugh and Tomczak.

In our lifetime, has there ever been a good Bears QB? We've had a few decent teams, otherwise, very frustrating..