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Title: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 11, 2020, 03:53:25 pm
Mack is questionable, Quinn is doubtful

And we didn't even play any preseason games...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: 46 on September 11, 2020, 04:26:59 pm
The Bears wrecking the train before it even leaves the station.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 11, 2020, 07:15:09 pm
Lions have several players hurt too.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 11, 2020, 11:51:22 pm
Mack is questionable, Quinn is doubtful

And we didn't even play any preseason games...

WTF?  How did they get hurt?  They barely practiced or a had a training camp.  No pre-season at all.  This season is going to be a train wreck.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on September 12, 2020, 09:56:33 am
Sure looks that way
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 12, 2020, 10:47:09 am
My excitement at the start of this season is at the lowest its ever been in over 40+ years watching the NFL. I'm more curious than excited.  Its still even money when the deaths (rightly or wrongly) attributed to the King Flu come out in the fall (it is flue season  after all and it happens every year- this one is just overly politicized) that the season will be shortened or canceled.

 And after the Democrat (justly deserved) ass-kicking in the election the cries to shut everything down again will increase. The NFL, like most corporations continue to make the same shitty decisions such as giving in to a Marxist race hate organization instead of telling them to **** off as would happen in a normal, sane world....

That said, I'll be watching and since I forgot that my NFL Season Pass auto-renewed, I'll get to see all the Bear games (albeit delayed) in all their gory detail....

Besides, what the hell else am I going to do ? :D

Hey- just realized that could be a new slogan for the NFL (or at least MNF) :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 12, 2020, 08:02:40 pm
WTF?  How did they get hurt?  They barely practiced or a had a training camp.  No pre-season at all.  This season is going to be a train wreck.

Guys get hurt all the time without any contact - did you see Montgomery pull his groin?

But...I don't know what's going on with Quinn.  Something just doesn't sound right.  He's doubtful but I'm thinking we'll see him on passing down Sunday.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on September 13, 2020, 01:27:54 pm
Mitch looks the same.  Inconsistent decision making, fluttering passes.

Run blocking looking much better, pass blocking about the same as last year.  Ifedi is a big boy, I like the added size.

Bears still look like the slowest team in the NFL.  Trevathon in particular has been glacial.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on September 13, 2020, 01:30:46 pm
Now the Lions are picking on trevathon.  The 2 minute drill incompetence was very costly.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on September 13, 2020, 01:37:44 pm
Jimmy Graham 2 poorly timed jumps that were very costly.  the guy has a caught a ball before right?  Anthony Miller 2 questionable routes and 2 drops.  Mack once again, single teamed and gets close but cant close the deal.  And surprisingly Mingo filling in for the injured mighty Quinn.  Not sure what Quinn brings to the party, but the D looks gassed.  Montgomery looks good, keep feeding him the ball.  And Mooney, please target him, a lot more. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on September 13, 2020, 01:39:07 pm
The rookie Johnson looks to be pretty decent.  and yes Trevethan is getting picked on, as he looks a tad slow.  And after all that kneeling Bilal Nicols did, he hasnt made a single play that I have seen so far.  Its only the first half of the first game, but my expectations for the year are now rock bottom.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on September 13, 2020, 01:40:15 pm
If they dont make major half time adjustments, I am over Nagy, and Pace. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on September 13, 2020, 01:53:50 pm
Wow.  They looked so bad that drive.  No resistance at all.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on September 13, 2020, 02:56:09 pm
What a ridiculously bad decision to kick that long fg. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on September 13, 2020, 03:04:32 pm
Yes!  Fuller with the pick!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 13, 2020, 03:06:12 pm
They finally woke up.

Get the TD.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 13, 2020, 03:09:27 pm
Just get him the damn ball!

TD Miller!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on September 13, 2020, 03:09:36 pm
WTF!  Awesome catch and throw!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on September 13, 2020, 03:10:25 pm
Now the defense needs to step up.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 13, 2020, 03:18:21 pm
Bears Win!!!

I almost feel bad for Lions fans.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 13, 2020, 03:19:27 pm
Wow
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on September 13, 2020, 03:20:07 pm
What a win!  Props to the guy dropping the easy td pass on the second to last play.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on September 13, 2020, 04:28:31 pm
That WR for Lions was a rookie I believe.  Feel sorry for him.  But damn that was a good game!  We played like dog shite the first 3 Q but came alive in the 4th.   Sure beat last years opener!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on September 13, 2020, 04:29:17 pm
The trouble, that should have been a TD and Bear loss. Somehow we woke up. Looked like we were playing a preseason game. I thought we were dead meat after the first half.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 13, 2020, 06:33:27 pm
Got out with a win and as far as I could tell no injuries.  Lions fans have to be crushed.  Not only do they choke another one away at the end after a big lead they had a ton of injuries.

Oh and that dropped pass in the end zone.  Ouch!

Graham looked like he had two left hands for three quarters but he turned it around in the 4th quarter along with the rest of the offense.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 13, 2020, 06:58:56 pm
Jimmy Graham 2 poorly timed jumps that were very costly.  the guy has a caught a ball before right?  Anthony Miller 2 questionable routes and 2 drops.  Mack once again, single teamed and gets close but cant close the deal.  And surprisingly Mingo filling in for the injured mighty Quinn.  Not sure what Quinn brings to the party, but the D looks gassed.  Montgomery looks good, keep feeding him the ball.  And Mooney, please target him, a lot more.

Mack was committed over the off season to improve on last season.  He's still a factor on every play - but no sacks against a backup right tackle...on turf?

Mingo...Vaughters are not the answer at ROLB. Bears desperately need a healthy Quinn.  Hicks had a sack but looked like he isn't himself yet.

Skrine and the 2 ILBs seemed to be targeted on numerous pass plays but I thought our corners held up well,,,especially the rookie. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 14, 2020, 12:32:36 am
Here's my take on the game.

This was one of those wins that feels like a loss based on the play of the Bears.  It rested on a dropped winning TD by the Lions late in the game.
The Lions were severely undermanned with their starting corner Okuda out and later the other corner Trufant left the game.  Their best RB didn't play except to drop the TD pass
and their OL had a rookie RG and second string RT.

But anyway, the Bears still had a job to do which they largely left on the table. 

here's my opinion:

Trubisky.

The first half looked like a continuation of last year.  Nauseatingly like last year.  Did all the changes and hard work and talk produce nothing?
Tru still had that scared and confused look we find all to often.  He still overthrew receivers and showed inacuracy.  He didn't throw picks which is probably the only reason they were still even in the game.

The only ray of hope I saw was that he wasn't missing by much.  Could it be the lack of normal training camp?  Can that be improved?

He had a nice first half TD pass to Robinson but Robinson only had his left hand on the ball.  The defender was holding his right arm straight up but no PI call.

Then the fourth quarter came.....do or die.... and Mitch has 3 TD passes in 3 drives.  Whhhaaattt????
Did a coach yell at him?  Did he turn off his headset?

AS we've seen several times, he seems to play his best game on the comeback.  When it's "you have to go out and win the game now" he makes the plays.
Maybe "you be you" is replaced with a kick in the arse.  I don't know.

Ben Roethlisburger and Phillip Rivers have made a career out of this type of game, but Mitch doesn't have the steps of success to really celebrate a game like this.

Coaching:

The Bears look to me like a pretty talented offense that just can't get over the top of the hill.  They look ready to break out but just can't do it.
Juan Castillo pleasantly surprised by teaching the OL how to run block with success between the tackles.  Still it seemed like they had no real offensive game plan.
Why didn't they attack the backup corner.  Why didn't they have the new tight ends out for more short passes to move the chains?  Antonio Gates played the last 5 years of his career going out 7-10 yards and standing there Where Phillip River could simply throw it high where only Gates could get it.

Defense:

The front seven that was supposed to be the strength of the team looked old and relatively ineffective.  This is alarming.
Mack did a "nice" job rushing the passer but just came close and had no sacks against a second string tackle.  Not particularly disruptive.
The last couple of weeks it was reported he had a bad knee, so maybe that's part of it, or maybe he just hit the wall and will never be the player he was 2 years ago.

The rest of the line was not good.  No one could get a pass rush.  Hicks was a non factor against a rookie guard except 1 sack play.  No penetration otherwise.
It was disappointing to see the Lions run on the defense like that.  So much for Nichols and Robertson Harris having great camps.

Trevathan looks like he lost a step, we'll see.  I couldn't say how Smith played.  He was out there but I don't know.

The corners played well.  Fuller is a pro bowl quality guy.  Johnson had some rookie issues with speed and toughness of NFL receivers but recovered well.

The safeties?  meh.  Amendola with no speed was sure open in the middle of the field on a few third and long plays.

Maybe this team will shake off some rust the next few weeks.  They didn't seem to have the sense of urgency I saw from other teams this week.

This is a time for good coaching to put this puzzle together.   If they can't do it....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 14, 2020, 01:08:22 am
The lack of pass rush was the most concerning to me.  Once the Lions realized the pass rush wasn't there they started hurting us with the mid to deep routes.  The blitzing is what did them in late in the game.  Better teams will make them pay for blitzing.  Rodgers will own this defense if they can't get a better pass rush.

We need Quinn to get healthy and on the field.  Mack was being handled one on one by a rookie.  That does not bode well for the future.

I expected the Offense to be rusty.  Defense is normally ahead of the offense early in the year and more so this year with no pre-season games and half azzed training camps.

If the defense is not top ten this year the Bears will be lucky to get to 500.  Hopefully the offense will improve week to week.

The defense looked uninspired coming out of the half.  Mack did rally the troops though which is a good thing.  They showed him on the sidelines firing them up.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on September 14, 2020, 05:08:21 am
On one of the highlight shows they talked about league wide lack of pass rush.  They said since there was no crowd noise that the OL could hear the snap count well giving the defense a huge disadvantage.  Something like 10 QB's throw over 70% completion due to the amount of time they had.

I think that was part of the problem.

I really, really do not like our offensive play calling....and that is Nagy.  He needs to let the OC have a try.  Nagy gets to cute.  We were running it up the middle for 5-8 yards early in game, we needed to do that more but went away from it even before the score dictated it.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 14, 2020, 06:09:28 am
Haven't had the ability to see the whole game yet, only glimpses during RedZone and some highlights here and there. My first impression was when they switched to the Bears early for one of the redzone plays and it was the "Cohen up the middle" drive killer play Nagy just will not get rid of. It seems whenever they run that play, the drive always stalls.

Anyway, the comeback was sweet but somehow feels a little undeserved. Lions did choke big time but at least the Bears didn't choke by losing (although that WR that dropped the game winner is going to have nightmares about that one)....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BearHit on September 14, 2020, 07:00:34 am
Deondre Swift - rookie RB from UGA - it was a beautiful pass considering down, distance and time remaining - but the Bears have also had their share of devastating drops - it happens
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 14, 2020, 08:29:52 am
Just saw a LOL comment in the POD about "dagger time."

 sokoll98:
"Somone forgot to tell them...you are supposed to stick the metaphorical dagger in your opponent...not your fans

Ooof :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 14, 2020, 09:34:36 am
This win feels like the Megatron win.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on September 14, 2020, 09:49:04 am
Patricia and Swift are co-MVPs for the Bears.

Pace needs to get on the phone with Snacks Harrison immediately.

It sucks when all 3 of your pass rush studs are hurt before the 1st game even started.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: 46 on September 14, 2020, 10:37:02 am
Yes and Yes. No pass rush, couldn't stop the run, people hurt BEFORE they start to play, this is another I love Lucy rerun season. Seen it a million times, no change. Bears we all know should have lost. Feel bad for the kid who had the td and dropped it. Note that two bear defenders were 3 steps behind him. It's just not worth the time to watch a full game, pay for a full game, being told I'm bad because I'm old and white. It's been 35 years since the Bears won the sb, I'll have to be content with that. Too much has changed. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on September 14, 2020, 04:25:11 pm
Bars was the only backup ol to get a play on offense yesterday.  He came in when Daniels shoe fell off.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 14, 2020, 04:33:24 pm
Kreutz was raving about Daniels' play yesterday on the Football Aftershow...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 14, 2020, 05:11:38 pm

I thought the Oline did pretty good overall - they gave up the one sack.  No holds - no offsides that I can recall.

All 3 running backs over 4 ypc.

But it was the Lions in a quiet dome - we'll see what happens next week against the Giants.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on September 14, 2020, 05:23:04 pm
They better find a way to stop the run against the Giants
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 14, 2020, 07:58:27 pm
Maybe theyíre watching the Steelers tonight...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on September 15, 2020, 08:17:31 am
We let Adrian Peterson gash us.  I foresee Saquan Barkley having a field day.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: 46 on September 15, 2020, 08:49:52 am
Ain't there a guy out there from the Lions who said he's not going back? Not enough beef up front.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 20, 2020, 12:42:41 pm
That didnít look too good for Barkley...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 12:44:18 pm
INT!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 20, 2020, 12:44:51 pm
Defense came to play today!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 20, 2020, 01:15:25 pm
Trubisky is lights out today
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 01:17:19 pm
That was a duck!  That TD was all Mooney!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 20, 2020, 01:42:43 pm
OK, bad decision there...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 02:07:14 pm
Terrible call!

Daniels slid at the last second and he didn't get hit!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 20, 2020, 02:14:13 pm
Need to take over the game here.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 20, 2020, 02:22:22 pm
Another bad decision...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 02:26:51 pm
JACKSON INT TD!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 02:27:30 pm
All coming back.  ****!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 20, 2020, 02:31:45 pm
No pass rush
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 20, 2020, 02:32:57 pm
Great play Johnson
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 20, 2020, 02:37:35 pm
Monty doing work now!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dogstoothe on September 20, 2020, 02:40:04 pm
Angel from Montgomery
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 02:41:09 pm
Just gashing the Giants D!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 20, 2020, 02:41:09 pm
23 yards on 1st and 25...let Monty eat!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 02:43:35 pm
LOL!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 20, 2020, 02:43:49 pm
MASSIE!

1st down!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 02:48:57 pm
**** missed it!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dogstoothe on September 20, 2020, 02:51:18 pm
NY has to get in. Easier said than done.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 02:56:56 pm
Ball game right here.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 02:58:20 pm
That review in essence gave them a time out.  ****!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 02:59:52 pm
No pass rush.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 03:02:35 pm
Whew!  BEARS WIN!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 03:02:57 pm
17-13.  What a nail biter.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dogstoothe on September 20, 2020, 03:04:51 pm
Bears Win! Fun game to watch. Like the quarterback, heís got that look in his eye.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dogstoothe on September 20, 2020, 03:35:20 pm
Now Iím watching the next game and I hear all this crowd noise, there is no crowd of course, but it kills me that a good play will get the ďcrowdĒ all a going, cheering and all that but there are no fans. Canned fans just for the tv watchers. I donít think they have the canned fans at the stadium.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on September 20, 2020, 03:41:55 pm
Looked like it should have been a blowout early.  I think both the playcalls and Mitch's decisions were strong in the first half and awful in the second.  I'm sure the Giants made some adjustments to cause it, but it's concerning that Nagy takes so long to adjust back.

I hate how gassed the defense looks at the end of every game.

I thought int #2 was pass interference, db was into Robinsons body before the ball and didn't look back.  Still a bad throw on Mitch's part, too underthrown.

I don't like Patterson as a rb.  That may be more due to the plays they call for him, but I think he lacks the instincts. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 20, 2020, 04:41:37 pm
The first int was a pass Mitch shouldnít have tried.

The second was a great defensive play taking the ball away.

I like that Mitch isnít making the real bad decisions of the past years, heís willing to take a sack scramble or throw it wide where only the receiver have a chance.

Still a scoreless second half is inexcusable.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 06:46:01 pm
Chiefs kicker kicks three 50+ yard field goals in a row due to a penalty and a time out.  Two of them 58 yards.

I wish we had a decent FG kicker.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 20, 2020, 06:58:46 pm
Butker is the best in the league. Itís not close.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 20, 2020, 09:39:47 pm

Massie had as many catches today as Graham and Miller...combined.  Trubisky had 3 completions to Robinson with 9 targets.

Mitch still has problems in the pocket when nobody's open or when there's a pass rusher that gets early pressure.  Not all the sacks were the O-line's fault. O-line is doin much much better than last year.

Defensively the Bears miss Goldman, but our defensive backfield is playing well, especially our corners.  Jaylon Johnson is better than I thought.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 20, 2020, 09:43:01 pm
Mitch has issues putting the ball where it needs to be.

All of his passes wobble as well...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 20, 2020, 09:48:50 pm
He throws high or behind the receiver and rarely hits a receiver in stride.

He has played ok but needs to play better for this team to take the next step.  If it weren't for the two INT's today I might feel differently. 

The D had a pretty good game but they need a better pass rush.  Mack needs to get rolling.  I had high expectations for the D and they have not come close to meeting them.

2-0 is great but these were against two beat up bad teams.  The better teams will own them if they don't improve.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 21, 2020, 12:33:08 am

Mack and Quinn are not 100%.  Pass rush was better this week.

Bears have always had a problem when they get ahead of a team and they go into pass only mode.  Bend don't break defense and offense goes conservative.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 21, 2020, 06:04:33 am
Have yet to see the game in full but I was sweating the 2nd half. Redzone rarely went to the game (the only turnover shown was the Giants Int in the sidelines).....

As a kind of fun aside, during one of look ins to the Eagles game, it sounded like they piped in some booing crowd noise over the broadcast, which considering Philly I thought was quite appropriate...... :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on September 22, 2020, 12:22:50 am
Quinn highlights (https://sportsmockery.com/2020/09/heres-how-dominant-robert-quinn-was-in-just-25-snaps/)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davep on September 22, 2020, 10:43:10 am
Most of you may not be old enough to remember Allen Ellis (the most underrated Bears corner, in my opinion), but Jaylon Johnson reminds me of him in one respect.

The reports on him were questionable after the draft (the best I remember was "not too fast, not too big, but quick to the ball").  During his first season the media followed him closely, pointing out some mistakes, but generally saying he wasn't as bad as they thought.  After that season, you seldom heard anything about him.  The reason was that he had become the best secondary man on the team, and opposing teams just stopped throwing in his direction.  He didn't make a lot of great plays, because he was not allowed to make ANY plays (OK, not many plays), and there was little reason to mention his name or show his replays, since the passes went to the opposite direction.

Much too early to say, but so far, most replays you see show him being a competent corner, and the replays became fewer and fewer as the game went on.  I suspect that, barring injuries, the Bears got a good one.  Combining him with Fuller is going to make a big difference going forward, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on September 22, 2020, 10:47:24 am
Allen Ellis, Virgil Livers...  there was a white cornerback  Terry Schmidt?  He was horrible.  Must have been playing opposite Allen Ellis, lol
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 22, 2020, 11:32:16 am

I do remember Alan Ellis - #48?  Also had a big thick beard like that Houston Rocket player...Harden.   I don't know that Ellis was even drafted - maybe in the 13th round or something or a free agent, but he was one of the best players on those Bears teams in the 70s.

As for Jaylon Johnson, he is first round talent.  He probably slipped because of the shoulder.  He's bigger than Ellis.  Johnson checks all the boxes at the combine and his pro day, and has held up well these last 2 games.  He'll continue to be tested, but he and Fuller could be among the top corners in the NFL.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 22, 2020, 12:18:44 pm
Please donít remind me of the 70ís Bears.

I saw where Johnson had the lowest QBR of any of the corners drafted before him
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 22, 2020, 12:45:04 pm

Silent Bears...on defense.

In the backfield we've seen Fuller, Johnson and Jackson make plays, even Bush now.  But what about Gipson?  He's showing up in the stat sheet but he's kind of quiet.  He might be doing his job and preventing big plays but I hardly hear his name called.

Barkevious Mingo.  I'll admit I didn't like the signing, but he recorded a sack Sunday.  Good for him.  I like it that he take snaps while Quinn works back into shape.  Once that happens then he can give Mack a rest on the other side.   Pass rushers are so hard to find in the NFL - if the Bears can get half a dozen sacks and consistent play from him that'll be a huge unexpected bonus.

Ray Robertson-Harris.  Kind of quiet.   He came to the Bears as an OLB and was one of my favorite projects.    Bulked up to play 3-4 DE from 260s to 290.  But now is playing a lot of 4-3 DT.  He just doesn't have the bulk/frame to play inside - especially against the run.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on September 22, 2020, 03:32:25 pm
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2020/09/21/chicago-bears-rookie-cornerback-jaylon-johnson-outperforming-other-cornerbacks-in-draft-class/?utm_source=bearswire&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pos1headline
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davep on September 22, 2020, 11:32:13 pm
I do remember Alan Ellis - #48?  Also had a big thick beard like that Houston Rocket player...Harden.   I don't know that Ellis was even drafted - maybe in the 13th round or something or a free agent, but he was one of the best players on those Bears teams in the 70s.

As for Jaylon Johnson, he is first round talent.  He probably slipped because of the shoulder.  He's bigger than Ellis.  Johnson checks all the boxes at the combine and his pro day, and has held up well these last 2 games.  He'll continue to be tested, but he and Fuller could be among the top corners in the NFL.

Ellis was the fifth round draft choice in 1973.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 01:48:19 am
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/09/26/nfl-hopeful-sundays-bears-falcons-game-will-proceed/
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 12:10:14 pm
We need a kicker.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 12:52:24 pm
Bears playing like dogshit on both sides of the ball.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 01:04:24 pm
BOOOOO!!!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 01:05:17 pm
That is **** ridiculous.  This Defense sucks ass.  They had stopped that drive three times if not for penalties.  Then give up a long TD run.  They suck.
 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 01:06:08 pm
The offense is moving the ball but refuses to finish drives against a Defense that was giving up 90% TDs in the redzone.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 01:07:03 pm
I think I am going into the other room and watch the Team play the Browns with my wife.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 01:07:20 pm
Fcvck the Bears.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 01:21:02 pm
Stay in the other room.  They play better when you aren't watching!

 ;D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on September 27, 2020, 01:33:48 pm
Dink and dunk Mitch looks great.  Long ball Mitch looks like he has never played football before.  His first 2 long balls were both thrown out of bounds.  No chance whatsoever.  And then Edwards hits Ryan in the head on the play we cause a fumble.  Karma says this is a loss, as I have zero confidence Nagy will make any half time adjustments. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on September 27, 2020, 01:35:08 pm
Trevethan looks old and slow.  Period.  I like Fuller and Johnson playing CB, Ridley is a stud, but seriously what if Jones was playing and healthy?  It would be 60-10. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on September 27, 2020, 01:39:54 pm
We need to pressure Matt Ryan.  Seems that is going to take blitzing...that's what we need to do.

Offense was working great when we were running the ball on 1st down....start the half off by running the ball on 1st down Nagy!

I think Nagy is in way over his head as a head coach...not even sure he is a legit OC.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 01:41:18 pm
We run the same running play all the time and the Falcons got wise and blitzed that hole.

They stopped running the ball after that.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 01:50:08 pm
It is as if we don't even have a defense on the field.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 01:51:14 pm
They need to start blitzing often.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 01:56:04 pm
And there is the pick by Mitch.

Hot garbage!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 02:09:34 pm
This never goes our way
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 02:09:57 pm
They will overturn it
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 02:11:52 pm
told you
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 02:12:08 pm
Perfect pass by Foles.

Robinson should have never allowed that to happen.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 02:12:49 pm
This is one of the worst defenses in the league.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on September 27, 2020, 02:17:31 pm
Poor sad Mitch.  I hope heís gone next year...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on September 27, 2020, 02:18:52 pm
Just based on all the games I've seen the first few weeks, bears are easily the slowest team.

I'm hoping foles can hit one of those deep balls that Mitch can't handle.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 02:24:15 pm
Our defense is just getting gashed!

They suck azz!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on September 27, 2020, 02:29:20 pm
I donít blame Nagy, Mitch is not able to execute the offense.  Theyíve given him every chance as well as a lot of money.  He canít do it.  If Foles can stay healthy this year maybe weíll have a chance to evaluate Nagy as a play caller.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 02:41:53 pm
So far same shitty offense.  2nd and goal call a screen that gets blown up.  Fvck Nagy
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 02:42:29 pm
Foles is a much better QB then Trubisky.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 02:42:36 pm
Foles has his second INT go right through a defenders hands.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 02:43:50 pm
They both suck.  Foles is a career back up.  I have had enough career back ups starting for this team in my lifetime.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 02:44:30 pm
Another replay that never goes our way.  This will be a turnover on downs.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 02:45:39 pm
Unreal.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 02:46:06 pm
our receivers all suck!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 27, 2020, 02:46:23 pm
What is that 5 calls went against us
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 02:46:49 pm
Told ya
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 02:47:00 pm
I think Falcons only have two penalties called against them all day.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 02:48:23 pm
No flag?  WTF?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 02:48:51 pm
There it is.  Pretty slow on an obvious penalty.  Even hurt him.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 02:49:34 pm
OH Bullshit!

They picked it up!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 02:50:37 pm
Cohen out for the year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on September 27, 2020, 02:51:09 pm
Robinson and Miller make those plays and this is a completely different game.  The good new is the Bears are 2-1 and the QB situation is sorted.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 02:51:39 pm
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QB situation is sorted.

LOL
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 02:52:15 pm
WTF is wrong with our receivers?  they can't catch anything.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on September 27, 2020, 02:52:55 pm
Sorted or sordid?....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 02:58:30 pm
Good job by foles to throw the conversion into triple coverage.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on September 27, 2020, 02:59:58 pm
Mitchís problem is he lacks skills and ability. Foles has thrown some good passes and gave the Bears a chance coming in cold.  Loved the deep out against cover 2
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 03:01:45 pm
Yeah.  Love all those skills and abilities Foles has.  They have earned him a career as a backup QB.  Glad we got the QB situation all sorted out.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 03:04:21 pm
About to be a 3 point game.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 27, 2020, 03:04:51 pm
They gonna review this one too?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on September 27, 2020, 03:05:07 pm
Youíre right.  Heís terrible
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 03:05:58 pm
17 points due to receivers and a missed FG.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on September 27, 2020, 03:06:59 pm
If weíre lucky we donít see Mitch take another snap
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 03:07:24 pm
He is no better than who he replaced.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 03:08:28 pm
They are both inconsistent QBs who show flashes of brilliance to tease.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 27, 2020, 03:09:35 pm
Lucked out there
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 03:11:27 pm
Nice flop by Ryan.  Surprised he didn't get the roughing the passer called.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 03:19:10 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 03:19:31 pm
Mitch misses that throw.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on September 27, 2020, 03:19:49 pm
HMMMmmm, who should be the QB going forward I wonder.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on September 27, 2020, 03:19:59 pm
YES!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 03:20:06 pm
30-26!

Come on D one more set of downs!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 03:20:38 pm
Time for this heralded defense to live up to their expectations.

Neither should be the QB still. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 03:22:47 pm
Picked!

BEARS WIN!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 03:23:11 pm
LOL.  My wife just stuck her head in the office and said why is Nick Foles playing?  I said Mitch sucks.  She said they pulled him for Foles?  I said yes.  She laughed and walked off.  Even my wife knows Foles sucks.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 27, 2020, 03:23:55 pm
Gipson plays a terrible game then gets the int
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on September 27, 2020, 03:24:11 pm
Great comeback by the Bears. Foles did what he needed to do and I think he's the QB going forward....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on September 27, 2020, 03:24:19 pm
Bears!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 03:24:44 pm
Montgomery for a first down!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 03:25:21 pm
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he's the QB going forward

Without a doubt.  But don't expect good QB play from here on out.  It will be more of the same inconsistent BS.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 03:26:17 pm
3-0!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 03:26:52 pm
3-0 miracle.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 03:27:06 pm
Put up 30 and it should have been 47.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on September 27, 2020, 03:27:17 pm
3-0 Bears.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 03:27:51 pm
WML is our new JBN!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 03:28:33 pm
When is the trade deadline?  I wonder if they can get anything for Mitch?  I would take a conditional 7th rounder.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 03:29:29 pm
Don't get me wrong.  I love 3-0.  This team still has HUGE problems.  We can still have the potential to go 3-13.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on September 27, 2020, 03:32:47 pm
I think Foles is more poised. He put some balls in tight spots. The D needs to step it up and they need to stop with the ridiculous penalties and maybe they can make some noise this crazy season....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on September 27, 2020, 03:34:12 pm
The defense is good enough to win with a competent offense.  The players believe in Nagy, but its gotta be frustrating with Mitch out there struggling with basic sh*t in his third year in the system.  The whole teamís gotta be excited to see Nagy play call with a QB that can see the whole field and competently execute the scheme.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on September 27, 2020, 03:36:38 pm
Ok for a minute I thought we were playing the Pack the way the calls were not going in our favor.  I was shocked that Nagy would pull Mitch, but so glad he did.  Just think Foles has had how many first team snaps all year?  Yeah probably zero.  With a week of practice who knows how good he can be.  Robinson and Graham with great catches, but also with balls going thru their hands.  I guess they are not used to nice spirals???  Expected a loss, thrilled with a win.  Cant wait to hear Nagys post game presser, and what the Tape Never Lies has to say as well. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 03:37:41 pm
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QB that can see the whole field and competently execute the scheme

Ahhhh...  It was part of executing the scheme to have the ball go straight through the defenders hands twice for reception.  I love it.

The play calling still sucks.  That is not the QBs fault.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on September 27, 2020, 03:37:58 pm
I agree that the D plays better when they think the O is at least trying/doing something.  Lets hope they turn it up with Foles at QB.  The only question is how long can Foles not get hurt? 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 03:39:24 pm
Let me make another gallon and flavor of the kool-aid...

Nope.  I still don't like it and refuse to drink it.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on September 27, 2020, 03:39:39 pm
That last TD I was picturing Foles with a injured arm. Didn't look good. As with the Bears on any usual screwed up season, wouldn't surprise me to hear 'Foles hurt his arm on the last TD pass and is out for three weeks'.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on September 27, 2020, 03:44:37 pm
Gotta say offense looked better with Foles.  He throws a much better intermediate and deep ball.

I agree with it will be interesting to see Foles with a weeks worth of practice.

I also agree that our team has some deficiencies.  We have not played a good team yet.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on September 27, 2020, 03:51:40 pm
Wonder if Nagy learned his lesson from a couple of seasons ago, when Mitch was out and used a whole week of preparation with Chase Daniel to show that there were a gazillion plays in the playbook 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on September 27, 2020, 03:55:24 pm
Sounds like Mitch is on his way out.. Hopefully he takes Nagy with him..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 03:57:11 pm
Hey.  We can all agree...

At least we aint the Falcons.  WOW.  The way their season has started....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 03:58:46 pm
Nagy at podium...

Emotional game.  Fired up we won..

Kohen torn ACL...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:00:16 pm
QB situation...  Didn't say much.

Respect Blank and Dan Quinn

Discipline too many penalties.  goof up to today.

Resiliency is special about this team.  No one gave up.

 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:01:07 pm
What lead to the decision? 

When the interception was thrown.  We weren't producing points in the red zone.  My gut said to pull the trigger at the point of the INT.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:01:57 pm
They discussed it at halftime.  Just something was missing.  They wanted to go out and see how things go.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:02:43 pm
What happens now?

They haven't decided.  They will enjoy this one then talk it through and make a decision going forward.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:03:45 pm
How quick the discussion was with Nick letting him know?

We just went over to Mitch and said were going with Nick and then went to Nick and said were going with you.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:05:06 pm
how do you explain that a month ago he lost out and then he does that in the 4th quarter.

He has a history of big moments.  I have never called plays with him.  Been on staff with him but never called plays for him.  There was a calm out there by him.  He made some plays happen based off his exp.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:06:01 pm
Stupid question about the falcons positive test and how they handled it.

HE told the team not to relax and keep wearing their masks.  He is at a point he feels weird without hi.s
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:07:23 pm
how much of the decision was based on week 1 and 3 offense?

You always evaluate how you feel as an offense.  game one was struggle then on fire.  Game two was on fire then struggle.  This game felt like it was going in a certain directions and I made the decision.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:08:28 pm
How did WR play?

Thought they plaed well.  Tough on the overturns.  overall without watching the tape he felt like they made plays.  Tough catches and then some runs after the catch.  We have confidence in them.  When they had to step up they did it.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:08:44 pm
He's out.  Either Mitch of Foles on podium next.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:09:44 pm
Mitch up...

Take us to the moment you were told...

It was Coach Laser and it came out of no where,,,  Nick is up.  I then went to supporting Nick.  It sucks but it is what it is.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:10:20 pm
Last INT...

I didn't see the defender in front of Jimmy and was trying to go to him up the side.  I gotta play better.  It all falls on me...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:11:22 pm
What psychologically do you do now?

I am going to approach practice and try to perfect my craft and be there for team mates.  If nick starts going forward I'm gonna have his back.  I'm still a leader on this team and I have to act like it.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:12:04 pm
what was it like to watch in the 4th quarter.

You can feel the momentum shift.  It was exciting.  Defense came up with a lot of big stops.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:12:55 pm
Do you feel how the first two weeks have gone was it merited

1 and 2 doesn't matter.  It is what is happening now.  I wasn't playing up to par.  It's tough.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:13:39 pm
Deep shot to Anthony...

I just missed it right before half.  I overthrew it.  You gotta make those.  That is on me.  I have to make that throw.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:13:53 pm
Nick Foles should be next.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:16:47 pm
Nope Hicks is up....

Could you feel the momentum of the offense?

Most definitely.  It plays a role.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:17:33 pm
How were the first two road games this year?

Wow.  Just wow.  We've had some bad runs but we've had some great quarters.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:18:21 pm
Falcons collapse history did you feel their fear?

You always want to impose your will.  It plays a role.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:18:59 pm
Sack that forced the FG.  How did you feel?

It was great.  We worked together as a unit to hold them there.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:19:51 pm
How mystified were you by the roughing flag.

You can't be upset.  You just have to take it.  There is never ill will or bad intention.  You just have to accept it.  Fans want to see hits but I accept the calls. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on September 27, 2020, 04:20:16 pm
Another escape
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:20:37 pm
What qualities does this team have?

We are not afraid of a fight!  We don't want to be behind but if we are we are not afraid to compete.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:21:19 pm
on QB move.

Above his pay grade.  I wish the best for both guys.  I don't have anything to say on that.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:22:05 pm
Did Matt bring QB switch in post game.

No.  It was not brought up.  There are going to be decisions made by the coaches.  The post game locker room was lit.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:22:40 pm
On Kohen's injury.

I don't talk about injuries but he said Tarik was a stand up guy and they all love him.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:23:04 pm
Foles should be on the podium next.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:28:19 pm
Nick...

You guys supported each other.  Waht was the emotion like to see him get pulled?

Lots of emotions.  Were friends and brothers in the film room.  I've been there.  I know the emotions are real but he as there supporting me.  We will continue to support each other.  Mitch is an outstanding QB.  This will make him better.  Iv'e been there.  He is a team guy and showed leadership today.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:29:04 pm
how demoralizing was the two reversals

It's unfortunate.  One was 50/50 and usually goes the offense way.  Didn't understand what happened on that one.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:30:24 pm
in terms of comfort as play caller how are you?

Reality this is his first time calling plays for me.  We know each other and I was highlighting plays on his sheet that I like.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 27, 2020, 04:32:35 pm
How comfortable are you now compared to when Mitch won the job.

All this is new.  I wasn't expecting.  Since I have been here I know team mates more.  We know each other more now then before.  It's one game.  We will see what happens going forward.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 27, 2020, 04:35:14 pm
Ironically Trubiskys tackle to save the TD may have one the game.

The defense held to a field goal so that 4 points saved the game.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 06:27:29 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4WeWVRUEpw
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 06:45:56 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WgzB1SkKb8
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on September 27, 2020, 07:02:51 pm
One thing I want to say I am thrilled to death I dont have to watch that dumb idiot anymore.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on September 27, 2020, 07:27:34 pm
I was hoping this would be the year Mitch would show some progress. What a debacle, trade down for an eventual bust. I said at the time Mitch was drafted.. Pace is putting his career on the line.. Once again, no fukking QB.. WTF?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on September 27, 2020, 08:05:44 pm
1. that ruffing the QB call against the Bears was ridiculous. Watched it over and over on the highlights. I just don't get it.

2. Hate to defend Mitch, but the interception was Graham's fault, he wasn't looking at the QB. He had no idea the pass was thrown to him.

Where was the running game for most of the day? If it wasn't for that 1st down run at the end of the game Montgomery's #s would be more sickening than they were.

That 2019 7th round pick Kerrith Whyte is on the Lions practice squad. Josh Adams is on the Jets practice squad. I'd grab someone off a practice squad to fill Cohen's spot.

Bears have a DL problem. Trevathan looks washed up.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 27, 2020, 10:35:05 pm

Not only was Graham not looking for he ball, but he was slowing down.   BUT Mitch should never have thrown that ball.  Nagy was looking for a spark and found it with Foles.

As for Foles, he threw 3 TDs, but he had 2 others that should have been.  The pass to Robinson that again got swiped and the drop in the end zone by Miller.   

Foles is much more comfortable in the pocket than Trubisky and he's got a better deep ball. 

It's got to be Foles next Sunday.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 27, 2020, 10:45:54 pm

Bears can bring up Pierce - but I'd be up for signing Kerrith Whyte. He has sub 4.4 speed.  I know he returned kickoffs in preseason last year  - can he return punts?

Bears defense  plays a lot of 4-2-5.  The problem with that is the offense can double team one side and one or more of their blockers go after Trevathan and Smith and they've been winning those blocks.  There's no safety help because Bears play a lot of cover 2. 

But somehow those guys in the 4th quarter applied enough pressure to make Ryan become ineffective.  DBs also did a great job...at the end.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on September 27, 2020, 11:31:06 pm
https://sportsmockery.com/2020/09/this-jimmy-graham-quote-is-pretty-damning-of-mitch-trubisky
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on September 28, 2020, 04:31:28 am
Pekin,

That Jimmy G quote is more damning of Nagy IMO.  If the QB is changing plays in huddle....its because the OC is calling shitty plays.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 28, 2020, 05:34:23 am
Leave it to the Bears to "discover" a starting NFL QB that was right in front of their faces and that nearly everyone outside the building knew was there....

That said, Biscuit will have to play again this year as Foles probably will not stay uninjured (that game winning TD where he got tattooed is a case in point). I saw that and said to myself- "That's so Bears. Win the game, lose the QB"

Definitely a wierd 3-0. Better than being a Viking fan for sure.... :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on September 28, 2020, 05:55:07 am
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Leave it to the Bears to "discover" a starting NFL QB

ROFLMFAO

The discovered what they signed.  A career backup.  They won't discover a starting QB until they find one not on the current team.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on September 28, 2020, 08:20:50 am
Nagy better keep Miller off of returns.  It would be as smart as putting Jackson out there...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 28, 2020, 08:35:25 am
ROFLMFAO

The discovered what they signed.  A career backup.  They won't discover a starting QB until they find one not on the current team.
Most career backups don't have Super Bowl MVP trophies.

That said, Swag Kelly...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 28, 2020, 08:39:31 am
And we desperately need a new LT in next year's draft...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 28, 2020, 09:08:31 am
Nuke the 2020 Falcons from orbit, itís the only way to be sure

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2020/9/20/21448096/nuke-the-2020-falcons-from-orbit-its-the-only-way-to-be-sure

At least we are not the Falcons atm..... This would be my reaction too if the Bears were 0 and 3 (I expected them to be 1-2 BTW).....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 28, 2020, 08:45:09 pm

And we desperately need a new LT in next year's draft...

Bears got a lot of money tied up in the 2 tackles.  This year Leno's been somewhat inconsistent but his pass blocking has improved from last year and so have the penalties.   Massie is serviceable - he made a poor decision yesterday but physically he's holding up well.

Yesterday the Bears passed 51 times and gave up 2 sacks.  Neither on Foles.  But it WAS the Falcons. 

Bears might be able to draft a LT type but play him at RT and let Massie go.  Or just replace Leno.   Or maybe our two OTs are good enough and Bears can look it another position early on in the draft.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on September 28, 2020, 10:45:17 pm
if you think Leno is doing OK you haven't been watching THE TAPE NEVER LIES tape reviews of the games.

Leno sucks, accept it, stop blowing smoke up your ass. We got good use out of a undersized 7th round pick, but it's over, he's done, he's not getting any better.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on September 29, 2020, 04:12:59 am
I don't watch the line play, so they only show up for me when I see the QB getting pressure or the Rb getting hit in the backfield.  Until Jarrett went out, we were seeing a lot of that, and to me it appeared that a lot of the pressure was coming right up the middle.  Mitch was sacked twice but seemingly under pressure a lot more.  I kept saying this is the Falcon's defense were are playing and we're making them look like the Ravens.

Leno started his career as a right tackle several years ago and appeared to play better on the left.  If his money is a sunk cost, it might be time after the season to consider moving him back to right tackle?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on September 29, 2020, 08:19:21 am
The ONLY place we should even consider moving Leno is to Green Bay or the bench.  Under no circumstances should he be anywhere near this team next year.  #weakestlink  #walrus
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on September 29, 2020, 08:22:16 am
no, some tackles are right sided dominant or left sided dominant, Leno is one of those as he did prove to be worse on the right than on the left. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on September 29, 2020, 08:46:05 am
Bears can bring up Pierce - but I'd be up for signing Kerrith Whyte. He has sub 4.4 speed.  I know he returned kickoffs in preseason last year  - can he return punts?

Bears defense  plays a lot of 4-2-5.  The problem with that is the offense can double team one side and one or more of their blockers go after Trevathan and Smith and they've been winning those blocks.  There's no safety help because Bears play a lot of cover 2. 

But somehow those guys in the 4th quarter applied enough pressure to make Ryan become ineffective.  DBs also did a great job...at the end.

Bears havent made any move so far which I kind of expected they would have, although its early yet. Maybe they are waiting on a medical evaluation of Cohen and maybe Pierce too.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BearHit on September 29, 2020, 09:02:27 am
Mitch can take his spot - he's very athletic I hear
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 29, 2020, 09:44:17 am
if you think Leno is doing OK you haven't been watching THE TAPE NEVER LIES tape reviews of the games.

Leno sucks, accept it, stop blowing smoke up your ass. We got good use out of a undersized 7th round pick, but it's over, he's done, he's not getting any better.

I've seen the Tape Never Lies Segments and they certainly weren't flattering for Leno.  I'd bet there are quite a few Bears that you could find highlights of them getting beat over the course of a game.  You think Hicks sacks the QB every play and turns every run against him for a tackle for loss?

I do have a couple stats.  Leno hasn't given up a sack this year.  Leno has one penalty in 3 games.  Our run game is 100% better than last year. 

It would be interesting to see the PFF grades for both.  BTW Massie has given up 1 sack  - no penalties.

We all would love to have that stud LT for 10 years that's consistent and never gets beat.  Most of those guys go in the first round.  The question is can the Bears get another pretty good year out of Leno and not suffer cap consequences from cutting him early.  The Bears may have other needs in the draft...like QB.


Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on September 29, 2020, 11:29:06 am
Quote
The Bears may have other needs in the draft...like QB. 

Unbelievably, again.....just never ending with this team...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on September 29, 2020, 11:59:15 am
First round QB, second round LT, or vice versa based on who is available.  Problem solved.  Get rid of the walrus!!!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 29, 2020, 12:11:04 pm

If it was only that easy.

Let's see how the season goes - but Foles is only 31 - which is the youngest starting QB in the division.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on September 29, 2020, 01:32:00 pm
Files is signed 3 years $24m but he can opt out if he reaches performance numbers.

I would rather keep Foles 2-3 years and draft a second round an to develop.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 30, 2020, 06:05:54 am
The only problem is when has this franchise ever developed a QB worth a damn ? There's some very bad mojo down at Halas Hall when it comes to QBs, where they are perenially cursed......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 30, 2020, 09:12:53 am

Cubs supposedly were cursed too...but then came 2016. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on September 30, 2020, 09:23:41 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9D55y6ERtw
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on September 30, 2020, 01:20:40 pm
"the Leno chronicles continue."
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on September 30, 2020, 02:04:48 pm
The walrus
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on September 30, 2020, 02:19:25 pm
No way you can watch that and say you want to keep him around. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on September 30, 2020, 02:41:42 pm
But around (or is that aground ? :D) he will be. He must have dirty pictures on a key front office personel figure (*cough* Pace *cough*)......

Once in awhile is a thing. But walrusing that many times over and over, game after game- pretty damn sure the Oline coach is not teaching that god damned technique. But if he is the Bears are TRULY screwed (of course he as doing that alot under Hiestand too so I really think its his lack of technique/ability that causes that to happen as much as it does).....

Appears he'll be a Bears starter for the foreseeable future (IMHO already too long) . Speedbump Charlie indeed....

We will know if he as those pictures on unnamed (*cough* Pace *cough*) front office personel when he gets resigned to a large contract extension......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on September 30, 2020, 06:33:59 pm

What are options for replacing Leno THIS year in the lineup?  I don't want to hear anything about 2021 draft.

Spriggs is the official LT replacement.  Coward is another lesser option.

How about Alex Bars?  He's a tough run blocker, but might not have the arm length of a prototype LT and probably not the nimble feet either.  He's basically a guard but might be an option at RT next year if Massie faulters.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on October 01, 2020, 06:15:11 am
DOINK!* DOINK!* DOINK!* Leno, what are ya doing buddy? This guy hasn't improved from last season when he was horrendous. I would think at this point find a warm body and that would be a improvement....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 01, 2020, 06:31:43 am
A turnstile or tackling dummy would be a cheaper, far more effective replacement....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on October 04, 2020, 04:07:28 pm
Indy 7-0.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on October 04, 2020, 04:40:15 pm
Indy 10-3.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 04, 2020, 04:55:13 pm
Glad we got that QB situation all sorted out. This offense is humming and the defense has pick up their play because of it.

All bullshit. We still have a backup Qb that sucks. The play calling hasnít changed one bit and the defense is still letting the other team march up and down the field.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 04, 2020, 04:57:52 pm
10/17 for 107 yards. Awesome!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 04, 2020, 05:20:04 pm
3rd and 18. I know. Letís throw a screen pass.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 04, 2020, 05:49:24 pm
3 points and 163 total yards through 3 quarters. Glad we got that sorted out. Foles the savior.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 04, 2020, 05:51:53 pm
3rd and 1?  Letís give the ball to our kick returner so he can run it behind a shitty line all day for -2.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 04, 2020, 06:04:03 pm
I think itís nice of Leno to always be there to give his QB a helping hand getting up off the field.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 04, 2020, 06:05:31 pm
Thereís the INT. Glad this is all sorted out.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on October 04, 2020, 06:36:19 pm
It doesn't matter who is under center until Nagy is gone.

He's the worst head coach in the NFL by a wide margin.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 04, 2020, 06:42:27 pm
No. It is Mitch that was the problem. We now have Foles. Heís a veteran Super Bowl MVP. Itís all sorted now.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 04, 2020, 06:47:07 pm
4 of 14 on 3rd down.
269 total yards
28 yards rushing on 16 attempts

Glad our problems have been sorted out.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on October 04, 2020, 07:00:26 pm
28 rushing yards? On 16 attempts? Holy fricken crap.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on October 04, 2020, 07:05:38 pm
Ultimately, who can we thank for this? Pace...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on October 04, 2020, 07:07:56 pm
ONE sack ... and it was by Urban.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 04, 2020, 07:15:45 pm
Our O-line is just terrible.  They couldn't run block or pass block.  They were owned the entire game.  We could have had a HoF QB back there and would still have lost.

The D wasn't all that either.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on October 04, 2020, 07:58:24 pm
Games like that are why you build the **** trenches...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: 46 on October 04, 2020, 08:40:34 pm
Games like that are one reason I donít watch anymore.
Not  only bad, but dull.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on October 04, 2020, 09:00:29 pm
That was gross. 

OLine got manhandled. 

Foles looked like a career backup.

TEs and WRs are a big pile of meh. 

I'm sick of the middle of the field being left open by the D.  I hate how soft Pagano plays on long yardage/early down.  He gives up 8-11 with little resistance.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on October 04, 2020, 10:56:25 pm

I've seen this movie before...defense tries to keep the Bears in the game and the offense keep stepping on their dikk.

Patterson needs to be used less at running back.  He's got great speed but its all in one direction.  He doesn't have the patience to find a hole.  In fact Montgomery showed patience on one running play and picked up the first down.  Sometimes you get to bounce it outside.

And speaking about bouncing it outside - how come all the Bears running plays are up the middle - no sweeps?

We need a TE that can by linebackers and get open.  Graham is great in short yardage but not a medium let alone a deep threat.  Didn't the Bears draft and rave about a rookie TE - where's he?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 05, 2020, 05:16:40 am
Put me down as one that thinks its our coaches.  D has not been anywhere near the same since Fangio left.  The offense is better than it was but the play calling is terrible.  We get too cute at critical moments.

Pace is a mediocre GM.  He has done some good things, but whiffing on the QB pick a few years ago while trading up....unforgivable. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on October 05, 2020, 05:48:47 am
Pace is worse than mediocre, 85% of being a GM is handling the draft. His drafting and his draft day trading have been a joke. Hiring Nagy was a joke. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on October 05, 2020, 07:35:09 am
Questions that were not asked per Biggs...

On the third-and-1 run on the first play of the fourth quarter, why did you have Cordarrelle Patterson in the game at running back instead of David Montgomery? Patterson is an upright runner and easier to bring down at the line of scrimmage than Montgomery, who runs with better lean. The play wasnít blocked well and I doubt Walter Payton would have moved the chains in that situation, but Iím confounded by the decision to go to Patterson there.

The fourth-and-2 deep shot to David Montgomery down the sideline worked as you picked up a 32-yard pass interference penalty, but are you looking for a different option on that play? It seems to be a low-percentage choice considering the down and distance and throwing to a running back and not a wide receiver.

What happened on the second-and-5 play from the Colts 9-yard line in the second quarter? You used a timeout before the play and clearly there was some type of miscommunication as Nick Foles didnít have anyone to hand the ball off to and wound up pulling it down and running for no gain.

Why was Tyler Bray promoted from the practice squad for the game only to be inactive? The promotion bumped up the sixth-year veteran to the prorated pay of $910,000, meaning he received a $53,529 game check. Thatís great work when you can find it. Bray was earning $204,000 on the practice squad, or $12,000 per week, so itís a bump of more than $41,000. Why promote him to the active roster and then make him inactive when the plan all week was for Mitch Trubisky to be the No. 2 and no quarterbacks appeared on the injury report?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: 46 on October 05, 2020, 08:34:59 am
Bears in the clown car for sure, no change.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on October 05, 2020, 09:03:35 am

VJ

It appeared that the Bears were going to run a play on that 3rd and 1 at the end of the 3rd quarter.  Colts were in a pass defense and Montgomery was in at halfback.  Bears decided to use the time between quarters to come up with a better play and chose to go 3 TE against the tough Colt interior. 

Bears don't like to throw short on 3rd and 1 - they like to attempt higher risk/reward passes instead of dumping it off and living to play another set of downs. 

There were a couple WTF plays - happens when the QB gets his first start.

Who knows on Bray.  Maybe they wanted to give him some extra cash.  We'll see if they return him to the PS.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 05, 2020, 09:07:39 am
And just to throw some salt on the open wound we get to play Tom GOAT Brady on Thu night. 

Rivers has always seemed to own the Bears, and the Colts do have the #1 D, but still I kept hoping Foles was going to uncork something.  Sadly that was not to be.  I think we will be missing Mitch before too long.  Although I guess a 3-2 record is still technically a winning record.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on October 05, 2020, 09:36:14 am

I don't know that Mitch would have faired any better.  Mitch does benefit from some defensive formations having to assign a player to spy him and the rushers may have to be more disciplined to stay in their lanes.

The Colts DBs were excellent.  I thought our O-line did a credible job pass blocking.  For the most part Foles had time but receivers weren't open and he had to be precise with a lot of his passes.

I do know Bears seem to struggle with WR screens (WRs can't block) and WR end arounds.  Taylor Gabriel used to get some yardage on those plays - not this year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on October 08, 2020, 07:40:38 pm
How do you miss such a easy throw for a first down? Stupid things like that will result in losses.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 08, 2020, 07:52:46 pm
This Bears team is so poorly coached its ridiculous!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 07:54:31 pm
Weíre fine. The offense is sorted out now. Foles is the starter.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 07:55:50 pm
Catch and TD. Thanks Santa Nick.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 07:57:59 pm
Mitch can overthrow a wide open WR on third and 2. He can also under throw them for INTs.

Cordell Patterson gets the first touch out of the backfield of the night for a 2 yard gain.

10-0 now. Mitch sucks.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 08:02:05 pm
Sorted
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 08:04:49 pm
At least Patterson gets more touches when you let TB score.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 08:05:08 pm
Wow. Just **** wow.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 08:05:43 pm
Sorted out...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 08:06:18 pm
Nick Foles
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 08:06:32 pm
Has a coach ever called a time out to bench a QB?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 08:07:21 pm
The starting quarterback for the Chicago Bears
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 08:08:17 pm
Nick...Nick Foles
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 08:08:49 pm
Sorted
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 08:09:12 pm
When he gets to the bench I hope Mitch tells Nick, ďWTF Nick. I can do that ****.Ē
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 08:10:07 pm
Like it or not
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 08:10:55 pm
Nagy done with 10
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 08:11:22 pm
Sorted
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 08:14:41 pm
No respect right here.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on October 08, 2020, 08:15:40 pm
How bad is a team that their opponent is way deep in their own end and feels confident enough to go for it on 4th down.....sickening....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 08:15:54 pm
Ariens is totally disrespecting Nagy right there.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on October 08, 2020, 08:18:17 pm
Bears D is bad. Zero pass rush....don't we have expensive FAs?? ..... ... .. .
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on October 08, 2020, 08:19:41 pm
Score here and I'm done.....not watching this sh.. show.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on October 08, 2020, 08:23:21 pm
Wonder how this team would be doing if they were smart enough to make the offensive line a serious priority instead of keeping trash like Leno....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on October 08, 2020, 08:23:43 pm
Pagano is no Fangio.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on October 08, 2020, 08:24:06 pm
The worst head coach in the NFL.

The worst head coach in Chicago Bears history.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 08:39:25 pm
Nice drive. Now donít give up points before the half.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 08:42:32 pm
BS flag!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 08:43:45 pm
That was all shoulder to chest
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 08:44:10 pm
I would challenge it as a fumble too
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 08:44:48 pm
Oh yeah under 2 min. Should call it a fumble.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 08:45:47 pm
What?  A call went our way?!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on October 08, 2020, 08:45:47 pm
Clear catch and fumble.....good call....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on October 08, 2020, 08:48:29 pm
How....did he fricking catch that?? wow.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 08, 2020, 08:49:09 pm
TD band wagoners!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 08:49:20 pm
Wow. Nice catch
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on October 08, 2020, 08:50:03 pm
why call a TO after the Patterson catch?  To give Brady more time?

Great catch by Graham.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 08:50:15 pm
Bears!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 08:52:45 pm
TD band wagoners!

You show up when they finally do something that resembles a football team and then call everyone a band wagoner???  Right.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 08, 2020, 08:59:20 pm
Show up?

I watch every play win or lose while youíre looking for another team haha.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 09:01:19 pm
It would be awesome For the Bears to finally beat Tom Brady
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 09:01:44 pm
Whoís looking for another team?  You showed up in the topic when they finally did something and called everyone that was already in there a band wagoner. Usually a band wagoner is one who only shows their face during the good times.

Nuff said.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 08, 2020, 09:04:09 pm
Youíre placing a lot of importance on a low participation message board.

Not a lot of fans here.

Anyway..........find a pass rush and go bears!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 08, 2020, 09:05:06 pm
Great end of 2 minutes before half.  However I still think this team is poorly coached and I do not feel confident about this season.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 09:06:29 pm
You shouldnít feel confident about this game much less the season.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 09:09:05 pm
Gotta love this play calling. First two plays out of the half. Both passes behind the line of scrimmage.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 09:09:56 pm
2nd and 20 lets throw a 3 yard pass.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 09:10:38 pm
Wasted that good field position. Way to go team!  Three and out.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 09:14:06 pm
I like how the guys never give up, but I hate how unprepared they almost always are
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 09:14:16 pm
Pathetic defense.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 09:14:52 pm
Mack sighting.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 09:18:17 pm
Holding them to FGís
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 09:18:54 pm
It would be nice if they held them to a punt.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 09:24:11 pm
Another pretty 3 and out. Yay team!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 09:26:12 pm
WTF?  Block in the back by the kicking team?  How bad do you have to be to have that called on you?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 09:27:06 pm
So I bet they continue their streak of not scoring in the third quarter.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 09:38:34 pm
174 total yards so far. Glad that offense is sorted out.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 09:42:21 pm
48 total rushing yards for the last 7 quarters. Yay team.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 09:56:22 pm
Brady call
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:04:37 pm
This is where good teams Mae the 4 minute scoring drive to win the game. I smell a three and out so we can use our time outs on defense.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:05:40 pm
Ok. Nick got away with a pick 6 there.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:06:11 pm
Pump fake for a sack. 3rd and 19 now.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:07:05 pm
Wow. That was not roughing. Lucky call there.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:07:46 pm
Have to take advantage of that gift by the ref.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:08:33 pm
Another ball up for grabs and the defender drops the INT.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:09:17 pm
4th down. Horrible.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 10:10:22 pm
Canít block anyone
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:11:39 pm
Nice. Urban just gave a guitar strum and a point to the sky after that tackle for loss.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:12:43 pm
Nice defensive stand.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:13:19 pm
Only a 16 second possession. Very nice.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:13:50 pm
That was so bear like of TB.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:15:28 pm
They have to get this 20-30 yards to win this. Need to get the run going here. Some how. Some way. Time to shine Nagy. Do your **** job.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:21:11 pm
Need about 4 more yards and run the first down play for -1 passing behind the LOS again.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 10:21:50 pm
Youíre in the third year of your program time to win
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:23:16 pm
Perfect throw?  Why do the WRs have to slow down to catch the balls?  Hit him in stride and itís a TD.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:23:59 pm
Still a lot of time on the clock.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:25:34 pm
And they throw incomplete and stop the clock to let TB save a time out.

Good job Nagy. Yay team.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:27:12 pm
Instead of about 30 seconds Nagy gives the GOAT over a minute. Good call Nagy. Yay team!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:30:19 pm
Ok. 4th down. Stand up D!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:30:43 pm
YES!!!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 10:31:23 pm
Bears win!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:32:01 pm
Tom is showing his Alzheimerís.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 10:32:56 pm
Not a good look for Brady there
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 08, 2020, 10:34:20 pm
Brady wonít even go on the field to congratulate Foles.

What an arse.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 08, 2020, 10:34:28 pm
Iím just surprised the refs didnít agree with him.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on October 08, 2020, 10:40:49 pm
"We're trying to keep our distance."

Foles not throwing Brady under the bus for the post game scoot straight to the showers...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 08, 2020, 10:43:24 pm
Come to think of it thatís twice in a row Brady has lost to Foles.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on October 08, 2020, 10:43:29 pm
@MikeGarafolo
#Bears G James Daniels will undergo an MRI on his pec, with a source saying the fear is he suffered a season-ending injury. The tests will tell the full story.
10:34 PM ∑ Oct 8, 2020∑Twitter for iPhone
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on October 08, 2020, 10:46:35 pm
Same injury Roquan had last year?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 08, 2020, 10:50:24 pm
Deondre Houston Carson deserves a lot of credit for that last play.

Third string safety with a great play.



Tell me you werenít thinking double doing just before that last field goal
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 08, 2020, 11:05:30 pm
I was sending positive vibes. You can do this.  I canít be negative at all (even tsk out loud) or the dog freaks out and thinks heís in trouble.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on October 09, 2020, 12:19:06 am

Not only did I think Santos misses that field goal but I'm thinking Brady gets them down the field for a chip shot field goal to win it at the end.

Bears defense especially the pass rush did the job.  Mack gets 2 sacks....should have had 3.  Some sloppy tackling early on but what a game!

Kudos to the kicker whatever his name is...and Bears finally send Montgomery down the field as they did Patterson.   Where's that been all season?

And what about DeAndre Houston-Carson?  A special teamer his entire career makes the game clinching play!

Bears 4-1?  Yeah.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 09, 2020, 03:27:38 am
I had to work but was listening to the game, watched a smidgeon at lunch and then watched the recording when I got home.

This team could go either way.  The defense is good but not great and the offense is less then average not good.

If both can take it up a notch they will be something.  Hoping they can put it together as the season goes on.

At 4-1 they should make the play offs. Let's hope they hit their stride by then!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 09, 2020, 03:53:16 am
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2020/10/09/khalil-mack-explains-why-he-hip-tossed-tristan-wirfs-in-bears-week-5-win/?fbclid=IwAR1t4mPxYQrbUY8L7zKtGIdTZJCz10BoyZxMiuUfkO3_OSm8qx9WUYcEAsM
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on October 09, 2020, 06:15:12 am
Bilal Nichols & Quinn absent from defensive stat sheet.

35 rush yards.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 09, 2020, 07:02:14 am
FWIW here's what I saw:

1. This team is NOT well coached.

 Case A: I am sure I was not alone at yelling at the screen during the last drive where they kept going out of bounds with plenty of time and TOs. It felt like they were going to score a FG, leaving too much time on the clock for TB to go down and get the winning FG.

Case B; WTF is with Bear WRs jumping when they catch a ball they have NO reason jumping for ? Robinson's INT does not happen if he just keeps his goddamn feet on the ground (his knee batted it up in the air when he mysteriously lifted his feet while falling back). Mike **** Furrey (you goddamn ex-Lion), why do all Bears WR do this ? Its like they are coached to do so (or not coached to NOT do that stupidity). Its kind of like the Walrus technique our Oline seems to use (looking at that turnstile Leno). Technique or bad habit ? Either way its on the coaches to correct these mistakes.... and they are not.....

Case C: Nagy has NO feel for momentum or the flow of the game. Foles is a streaky QB. He goes hot and cold. Foles heats up and drives down the field and **** Nagy calls a TO and stops that momentum. The drive stalls. HE and Foles have some words on sidelines (you can almost see Foles saying "WTF did you stop me for ! I was going in for the win!". 

2. That said, I have no problem with going for the win (even clock management on the last drive was truly **** poor but again that falls a lot on coaching but that's also an Andy Reid special)  but I liked them going for the dagger at the end. Just wish they didn't run out a couple of times earlier in the drive to save some clock for Brady.  One thing this team does is that it keeps coming, and coming, and coming (even when it does stupid things) so even though he is a sub-par play caller and trash at situational awareness he gets credit for getting the boys to keep playing. Down 13-0 and looking like dogshit on offense ? Like the energizer bunny they just keep playing and playing and playing......

3. D got gashed at times but held up otherwise. Roquan was in position early to make plays and whiffed a few times. Then it looks like he got kinda mad. And Mack was a beast. Coverage was good (Evans is a great receiver and Brady, even though old is still good enough to win with). Run defense, however is a serious concern.....

4. With James Daniel out (probably for the season) that makes a sub-par line even more subpar. Guess its time to coach the "mega walrus technique" where the line blocks down and all falls to the ground.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BearHit on October 09, 2020, 07:48:20 am
Nagy must have money on the spread - never wants to build a large lead
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on October 09, 2020, 08:50:01 am
Quinn couldn't be absent from the stat sheet...he had the fumble recovery while everyone else was standing around looking at the ball and celebrating Fuller's hit...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 09, 2020, 08:56:09 am
It was annoying that Roquan was hitting RB in the hole and couldnt wrap up and make the tackle.  But he was around a lot.  Trevethan got picked on some.  That hit by Fuller was beautiful and something you dont see much any more.  And I kept thinking we got this guy Quinn who was supposed to rush the passer, and so far he has pretty much done nothing.  The key to beating Brady is to hit him, often and hard.  How many times was he down on the ground?  He got plastered so many times he lost track of which down it was.  I love it. 

Foles IS a streaky qb, not exactly what you want or need.  The lack of a run game is disturbing and I guess we get to see what Bars has.  WE KNOW what Leno has, speed bump Charlie has the walrus move and the turnstyle move.  Please put Spriggs or anyone else in there. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on October 09, 2020, 08:58:17 am
When Daniels went down they put in Bars amd the first play he gives up a sack. Gotta be a decent guard out there we can pickup
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 09, 2020, 09:26:25 am
True but he seemed to settle down after that.  Lets see what he can do.  Spriggs in for Leno for sure.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on October 09, 2020, 09:47:19 am
Yeah, I figured you'd post some nonsense criticizing Bars on the one play.

Kid's been sitting on the bench the whole season, no preseason, and probably no live contact in practice for weeks and brought in cold against a top defensive tackle in Vita Vea and gives up the sack.  But if you paid attention to the rest of the game you'd have seen he held up well having to single block Vea on numerous pass attempts where the Bears doubled the other guy, Ndamukong Suh.

I hope Daniels can come back this season, but it does give Bears chance to evaluate Bars for potential move to RG next year if they don't retain Ifendi.   Bears have 3 other backup guards if Bars falters, Coward, and the 2 rookie 7th rounders.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 09, 2020, 10:18:57 am
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=onebox&v=

20 minutes edited game
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 09, 2020, 01:47:02 pm
Daniels torn pec, done for the year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 09, 2020, 01:57:54 pm
A win against a top team is often an ugly struggle.

We beat the GOAT on national tv prime time.

The D beat him up.  They won on physicality.

Our offense made the key plays necessary to win.

Enjoy it, appreciate it.  There have been far too few.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: 46 on October 09, 2020, 02:06:21 pm
More of the same please, more of the same. An ugly win is miles more gorgeous than a beautiful loss
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 09, 2020, 04:15:49 pm
Bears4ever,

We are definitely watching the same Bears.  They are not well coached.  The problem is the 4-1 record is fools gold. 

Here is the thing.  I think we truly have Super Bowl talent.  However we are not even close to reaching the potential of our players.

The D has the best corner dual in the league per stats.  The safeties are also one of the best.

You have the most dominate player in the league with Mack.  Probably the most under-rated with Hicks.  Add in an aging but effective Quinn.  Roquan is above average.  Trevathan at this stage of career is average but solid.

On offense you have a really talented young RB, one of the best WR in the league, an above average TE in Graham.  Foles is adequate at QB with the talent we have on offense and defense.

The problem I see our team cannot tackle, block, run or catch well.  That's coaching.  The play calling is atrocious.  We put a damn return man in the backfield on 3rd down and 2 yards.  We run gimmick plays too much.  I could go on but anyone who is a fan of the game knows what I am talking about.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on October 09, 2020, 06:37:48 pm
Sleepingbear



Over estimating your talent and deriding coaching is excuse making. Graham an above average TE??? Surely you jest.


Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 09, 2020, 07:20:13 pm
https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/view/offense/stat/receiving/table/receiving/sort/receivingTouchdowns/dir/desc

Learn the game or go back to your hole troll.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 10, 2020, 06:18:51 am
Was Graham under utilized or under motivated in Green Bay?  He sure looks like a player to me.  He has lost a step from his glory with the Saints, but should make up for it with experience.  This signing was being mocked everywhere when we made it, but it has paid off, particularly in the red zone.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 10, 2020, 06:38:11 am
Hiber-

Yeah we see the team the same way :D

This team is underachieving with the talent it has (that's on Nagy & Co). Could it be more talented ? Absolutely (that's on Pace).  The last game was the 1st one in awhile that the Defense really had some feeling to it that it felt it could be good. But its run D is not good. Lucky that Arians pulled his best Mike Martz and decided to toss the ball around more when he had a lead and was running the ball well......

All teams have blemishes it just seems that the Bears are the most glaring of the 3+ win teams. I'll take wins over losses anyday. I just wish they wouldn't have to be down 10+ points all the time before the team shows up....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davep on October 10, 2020, 10:04:28 am
The defense is very good, but it lacks the one thing that prevents it from being dominant.  An outstanding pass rush.  And the key to that (this year) will be Quinn.  Mack is unworldly good, and Hicks is excellent, but they need that third top rusher that prevents the others from being double teamed.

The 1985 Bears had Dent and Hampton, along with either Otis Wilson or Wilber Marshall blitzing.  That turned McMichael, an average rusher at best, into a real threat.

I think that Quinn is going to come on as he gets used to a new system and new players next to him.  If he does, this defense will be truly outstanding.

I don't think the offense will improve much as long as their offensive run blocking stinks, which it does.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: 46 on October 10, 2020, 10:42:48 am
Put me down as one who thought that signing was waste. Oops
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on October 10, 2020, 12:34:04 pm
me too.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: navigator on October 10, 2020, 02:43:16 pm
Goldman being out hurts more than many realize.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on October 10, 2020, 03:03:59 pm
The biggest weakness on the team, and it's a huge one, is the Oline. They are very much below average. It is inexcusable to see how Leno played last season and return with him at LT. He's playing the same way he did last season-like utter crap.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on October 10, 2020, 04:53:24 pm
Goldman being out hurts more than many realize.

He is. He was the run stopper in the middle. He hasnt been physically replaced, certainly not quality wise.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 10, 2020, 11:36:01 pm
This defense isnít respected by other teams. Evidence was TB going for it on 4th down deep inside their own territory.  That was total disrespect.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 10, 2020, 11:40:51 pm
It was disrespect for our run defense in the middle of our line.

Their o line was getting good push in the middle. I miss Ted Washington.  Put him in the middle in his prime and this would be an all time great defense.

We miss Goldman.  Sucks he was a **** who was to scared to play because of the Plandemic.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 11, 2020, 04:58:14 am
The defense is very good, but it lacks the one thing that prevents it from being dominant.  An outstanding pass rush.  And the key to that (this year) will be Quinn.  Mack is unworldly good, and Hicks is excellent, but they need that third top rusher that prevents the others from being double teamed.

The 1985 Bears had Dent and Hampton, along with either Otis Wilson or Wilber Marshall blitzing.  That turned McMichael, an average rusher at best, into a real threat.

I think that Quinn is going to come on as he gets used to a new system and new players next to him.  If he does, this defense will be truly outstanding.

I don't think the offense will improve much as long as their offensive run blocking stinks, which it does.

Good analysis.  I wonder if releasing Smith more on blitzes is that answer?  He certainly has found his way there and has the speed to be accounted for.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 11, 2020, 05:01:20 am
It was disrespect for our run defense in the middle of our line.

Their o line was getting good push in the middle. I miss Ted Washington.  Put him in the middle in his prime and this would be an all time great defense.

We miss Goldman.  Sucks he was a **** who was to scared to play because of the Plandemic.

It is somewhat maddening that the NFL didn't allow an opt back in for players that make that decision.  Perhaps 8 games out, make the decision to stay out for the season or opt back in.  The league has shown flexibility in other parts of the covid response, I wonder if this will be one of them.  Not sure how many players opted out, I believe the number was less than 30.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 11, 2020, 07:14:16 am
The thing that really stinks about Leno, and Draft Dr Phil harps on a lot, is that he is not held accountable for his pisss poor play.  Mitch made mistakes and got benched for Foles.  Miller made drops, and his playing time was scaled back.  Speed bump Leno KEEPS doing the walrus, and they keep trotting him out there.  If i was a D player I would be kind of demoralized by that alone.  Sit him for a bit, try Spriggs or Coward or the 2 7th rounders, cant be any worse.  Send a message that what you are doing ISNT good enough.  Period. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davep on October 11, 2020, 09:54:07 am
It was disrespect for our run defense in the middle of our line.

Their o line was getting good push in the middle. I miss Ted Washington.  Put him in the middle in his prime and this would be an all time great defense.

We miss Goldman.  Sucks he was a **** who was to scared to play because of the Plandemic.

Anyone at his weight is going to have severe trouble breathing if they get Covid.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davep on October 11, 2020, 10:03:35 am
Good analysis.  I wonder if releasing Smith more on blitzes is that answer?  He certainly has found his way there and has the speed to be accounted for.

The best defensive coordinator I have ever seen was Buddy Ryan.  His philosophy was simple.  You MUST put severe pressure on the quarterback, and you rush as many as you need to achieve that pressure.  Any pro quarterback will kill you if given time.

Of course, blitzing opens you up to fluke long passes, which will always happen occasionally.  The offense has to be good enough to do two things.

1. Keep the opposing offense off the field by dominating time of possession.

2. Score enough to overcome a couple of fluke touchdowns against your defense.

That requires an offensive line that can allow a decent running game, and we don't have that at this time.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 11, 2020, 12:09:51 pm
Anyone at his weight is going to have severe trouble breathing if they get Covid.

Someone his age would likely have no symptoms or minor symptoms at best.  How many active NFL players have died from it?  0.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 11, 2020, 02:35:27 pm
These guys football players not rocket scientist.  They buying into the hype machine.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 11, 2020, 03:09:29 pm
Itís not necessarily about them but about bringing it home to vulnerable family members.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on October 11, 2020, 10:07:15 pm

Isn't Eddie Goldman asthmatic? 

Bears don't play much 3-4 anymore without him.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 11, 2020, 10:12:45 pm
That was the claim.  Is he going to opt out every flu season?

Seriously if I can go to work everyday this entire time so can he. 

I am a hell of a lot older then he is I am not hiding at home. 

GIANT ****!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 12, 2020, 08:00:51 am
The virus will vanish in a few weeks from now if Biden gets into office. And Biden will take a fall down the stairs on inaugeration day with a little Kamala help.

I still don't think the fearmongers will allow the season to finish. I hope I'm wrong but with the NFL embracing stances that alienate over half its real base is just the warning sign.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on October 12, 2020, 06:47:59 pm
Itís not an if.


And itís not the flu.



And the bears still suck.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on October 12, 2020, 06:50:26 pm
Sleepnigsux



That just bear players with lower IQs.


They reflect their fan base.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on October 18, 2020, 10:52:32 am
I like the matchup today.  Carolina's defense isn't good and now it's pretty beat up.  Foles should have his best day as a Bears starter. 

My main concern is the speed of Carolina's offense.  Bears are really slow and our dbs don't always tackle well.

My prediction is Bears win 27-24.  Bears are comfortably in the lead most of the game but the Panthers mount a comeback late to make the score tight.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 18, 2020, 12:04:20 pm
Nagy typically loses when he has any amount of extra time to prepare.  Hope he can buck that trend
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 12:09:18 pm
Nagy and the O is going to **** away this early gift.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 12:10:25 pm
Delay of game after a Time Out.

Fvcking great job Nagy.  Sorted this Offense out.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 12:11:05 pm
TD Kmet!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on October 18, 2020, 12:11:52 pm
What a clown show after that interception.
Cole Kmet gets his first td!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 18, 2020, 12:12:13 pm
Bears!  Great play!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 12:12:32 pm
Nice to get the TD after the idiot moves.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 18, 2020, 12:14:04 pm
Delay of game after a time out is not a good look for Nagy
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 18, 2020, 12:14:50 pm
Geez delay of game coming off a timeout.

Nice play keeps Nagys screw up out of focus.

Graham on the bench in the red zone?

Trying to get too cute.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 12:19:44 pm
Giving up 3rd and 7 is not good.  Gotta get off the field on that.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 12:22:36 pm
Typical Bears.  Score early then let them walk right down the field on you to return the favor.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 12:26:38 pm
Let's put together an NFL Quality drive now.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 18, 2020, 12:27:55 pm
This years defense reminds me of Lovie Smithís teams, allowing long drives that end in field goals
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 12:32:57 pm
Thanks Leno.  False start to his walrus move.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 18, 2020, 12:34:08 pm
The first down runs are just too predictable
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 18, 2020, 12:34:57 pm
Really tiring of Anthony Miller.  Just catch the ball for the first down...not try to make a move and lose the first down.  Brother.  Self player...not a team guy.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 18, 2020, 12:45:25 pm
Our offensive play calling sucks!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 12:49:52 pm
That was PI!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 12:50:47 pm
That was PI if there ever was a PI.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 12:59:57 pm
Booo!  I hate that penalty.  This isn't even football anymore.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 01:02:46 pm
That was a shoulder to shoulder hit.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on October 18, 2020, 01:06:50 pm
Good clean hit and then it looked like the ball never hit the ground.  Wish Nagy would have thrown the red flag. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 18, 2020, 01:09:31 pm
Nice tackle by Fuller.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 01:21:10 pm
Do we finally have a kicker?

13-6 Bears at the half.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 18, 2020, 01:21:57 pm
F*cking Charles Leno.  Can Santos be turning into Robbie Gould?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on October 18, 2020, 01:22:13 pm
I had zero faith in Santos hitting that.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 18, 2020, 01:30:56 pm
The refs have screwed us at least 3 times the first half.  Nagy is a dope.  Lets see if the D can come out in the second with the same intensity and seal this game. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 18, 2020, 01:36:26 pm
Man 13 rush yards
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 18, 2020, 01:38:10 pm
12
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 18, 2020, 01:38:14 pm
Our O-line suxxs
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 01:38:26 pm
There is a dropped first down
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 18, 2020, 01:41:23 pm
The online canít give a clean pocket to save its life
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 01:42:36 pm
Had to get a handoff to the kick returner sooner or later because Nagy is smarter than anyone else.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 18, 2020, 01:44:36 pm
Dropped pass by Harris was a killer
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 01:44:53 pm
Another 3rd quarter drive that results in zippy.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 01:47:17 pm
Maybe we can get a safety as our first points of the third quarter for the year. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 01:47:54 pm
Guess not
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 01:50:28 pm
OK.  Now get your first 3rd quarter score of the season.  Make it a T.

LOL!  Fvcking bears.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 01:50:54 pm
Come on Foles!  WTF?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 01:51:06 pm
Foles is no better than a career backup.

Always has been.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 01:52:56 pm
Has Nagy seen enough of this POS too?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 01:53:34 pm
OMG!

A FLAG!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 01:53:41 pm
Challenge it!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 01:54:03 pm
LOL.  Now they want to call PI
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 01:56:18 pm
They would have never overturned that call on a tip.

It just pisses me off that they didn't call it when it was obviously over the back earlier.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:01:29 pm
3rd and 18.

let them get into FG range.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:02:00 pm
Grate time and place for a fake...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:02:25 pm
Nope they tried it and missed.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:02:52 pm
Let's get off this third quarter snide damn it.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:06:32 pm
Surprise first down run for negative yards.

Pass behind the LOS for minimal yards on 2nd down.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:06:58 pm
They are almost in FG range
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:08:19 pm
That play to Moony keeps working.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:08:48 pm
WOW.  David with the power run
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:09:22 pm
Time to give it to the kick returner Nagy....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 02:12:04 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 02:12:52 pm
Or not...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:13:08 pm
That was all  Montgomery.  No thanks to the line.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 18, 2020, 02:13:26 pm
Looks short
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:13:37 pm
Are you **** kidding me.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:14:14 pm
It's going to be 3rd a goal.  Who want's to bet Nagy tries something cute?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:17:02 pm
Did someone steal Nagy's call sheet?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 02:17:20 pm
Foles with the keeper TD BEARS!

The oline finally got a little push.

The small crowd in Carolina is chanting, Let's Go Bears!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:18:15 pm
He ran the ball three times?  One was a QB sneak and didn't give it to Patterson once.  WOW.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 18, 2020, 02:20:44 pm
Good lord they play soft coverage
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 02:24:01 pm
How do you do that twice in a row?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 02:30:06 pm
No way is that PI!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 02:30:21 pm
FVCKING TERRIBLE CALL!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 02:30:57 pm
TOTAL BS!

Why do we even watch this crap?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on October 18, 2020, 02:31:56 pm
The officiating sucks.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:32:05 pm
WOW.  Thanks Refs.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 18, 2020, 02:32:27 pm
They been calling terrible calls both ways.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 18, 2020, 02:33:02 pm
Johnson hid the holding of the receivers arm like a veteran but still got caught
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:33:14 pm
So from now on all the WR has to do is stick a hand in the defenders arm pit and they will get a PI call.  Total BS.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:35:47 pm
The Bears need a score.  20 isn't going to win this.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:55:07 pm
RUN THE DAMN BALL!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:55:31 pm
QUIT STOPPING THE CLOCK NAGY!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 02:57:36 pm
Let's throw it on 3rd and 3 when you need the clock running.

Thanks Nagy.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 18, 2020, 03:10:03 pm
Great game by the defense today!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 18, 2020, 03:10:24 pm
LOL he made the game winning stop against Tampa
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 03:11:02 pm
Same **** as last week. Bears win even though Nagy tries to give it away two weeks in a row.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 03:12:19 pm
RUN THE **** BALL ON 3rd AND SHORT. FORCE THEM TO ISE THE T.O. AT LEAST B
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 03:14:04 pm
How the hell this team is 5-1 with this idiot at the wheel blows my mind.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 18, 2020, 03:15:24 pm
Another stupid play call that threatens a victory.  But Iíll take 5-1.  About all I can think good to say about Nagy is his guys never give up.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 18, 2020, 03:23:19 pm
Ok seems the refs thought we were playing GB.  So Johnson gets called for PI yet when they go over the top of any of our WR, and blatently, not a flag to be seen.  Nagy is the DUMBEST man in the room.  Montgomery is your best offensive player, hands down, and on that last 3rd down he is off the field and Patterson is your RB?  Are you freaking kidding me.  Idiot.  glad for the win, would love to see Nagy go.  And please dont start me on Leno.  And I dont think Coward is the answer at RG, you saw our running output today....Bars, get better soon.  And can we PLEASE try ANYONE at LT not named Leno???  You know, before Foles cant remember his first name....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on October 18, 2020, 03:55:03 pm
Get this, we make the playoffs (lose the first round), then the Bears give Nagy an extension and we're stuck with that POS for the next 5 years..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 04:20:36 pm
Damn. 2 yards from Rodgers throwing his second pick 6 of the game. TB runs it in anyway to take the lead.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 18, 2020, 04:22:05 pm
Donít look now but if TB wins the Bears are alone in first.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 18, 2020, 04:41:02 pm
So GB grabs Brady's facemask, twists his helmet and doesnt get called for a penalty?  Ok, good to see the refs are even keel.  I hope Brady buries Rogers.  And I need to turn the volulme down as I cant take any more of Aikman slurping on Rogers.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 18, 2020, 05:39:34 pm
That pregame interview with Rogers was like he was preparing for the NFC Championship. They haven't accomplished anything yet this year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on October 18, 2020, 06:15:31 pm
Watched Leno this game and again, walrus city. How in the ..... is this guy still out there?? A piece of toast would be more effective. Take him out and have the left guard toss a banana peel down to his left, at least the D may slip on it. Would be more effective than this clown out there....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on October 18, 2020, 08:29:53 pm
Houston-Carson is our secret weapon for the last 2 minutes of the game...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BearHit on October 20, 2020, 06:17:25 am
ST - was also HUGE - avg starting field position was like the 13 yard line for Panthers
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on October 20, 2020, 09:41:15 am

The only problem with special teams all year has been punt returns.   Not many opportunities.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on October 20, 2020, 05:35:33 pm
(https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122034577_347820466495121_217878220984054870_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=g-B6kx5RKqwAX8_LrPj&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2.xx&oh=6a0eb2e96500c5afa516cd2a6f0b7bd7&oe=5FB4209F)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on October 20, 2020, 05:43:36 pm
I believe this was prior to the INT

(https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122074482_10157587605698513_7847196079209518318_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=419JUMsVXh8AX9uMwmw&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2.xx&oh=0d738ff0209accac94f567c66e882008&oe=5FB48796)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on October 20, 2020, 08:00:32 pm

Foles had Montgomery wide open in front of him and Kmet on the right side - wide open.

Kmet's man dropped off him and got the pick (Jeremy Chin).

I think it was first down - no reason Foles had to make an off balance throw like that especially when in field goal range.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 20, 2020, 08:24:07 pm
It was first down
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 21, 2020, 05:42:40 am
That PI on Robinson was so blatant that the ball hit the crown of his helmet and bounced incomplete.  What WR ever tries to catch the ball with the crown of their helmet?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BearHit on October 21, 2020, 06:23:36 am
It's gotta be the point spread that motivates these refs - those 2 calls allowed for 7 point spread instead of 14 - or more
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on October 21, 2020, 09:02:31 am
And Vilma said the defender was playing the ball.  Kind of like when Fuller played the ball, later?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on October 21, 2020, 11:00:46 am

Looking back-all 3 controversial plays were PI:

- Fuller did knock the receiver into the dirt (quite an an athletic play)
- Johnson had the arm of the receiver between his arm and his side (illegal but veteran move)
- Robinson was flat out hit well before the ball arrived

It's crazy this year, but just about every Bear pick or TD I just stare at the TV waiting waiting waiting for the yellow box to appear
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BearHit on October 21, 2020, 11:37:13 am
Yep - and Vilma and Pereira agreed Fuller made contact to head and neck - but the head contact only happened because of Newton's third law of motion
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on October 21, 2020, 01:37:14 pm
It resulted in a FG and killed a drive. He was on his head, bent his head down so that the ball deflected off his helmet. Not sure how more blatant a foul that could have been....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 01:55:11 pm
It seems like they are watching the Bears extra close this year, compared to the other teams, but they have gotten some flat out gifts from the zebras.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on October 26, 2020, 02:02:22 pm
Damn, you guys practice crybaby conservativism on the political thread and crybaby officiating on this thread...how about something else fellas.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 02:55:34 pm
Mostly the officiating has been bad for the Bears because over the last 30 years, the  Bears have been bad, and always with a bad quarterback.  Good teams with good quarterbacks usually get the calls.  The great QB's always get the calls

McMahon was arguably borderline good, but the 1985 Bears got ALL the calls, I remember thinking it at the time, winning and getting the benefit of the doubt from the refs being such an unfamiliar feeling. 

Down in the trenches, rooting on our bad quarterback-teams it just feels that way, especially in EVERY PACKERS GAME SINCE 1993
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 07:28:08 pm
One penalty to kill a drive. One to help a drive. Way to have them prepared coach.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on October 26, 2020, 07:33:01 pm
bill

stop whining.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 07:40:50 pm
3 and out inside your own 10 yard line. Great job Nagy. Some creative play calling there.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 07:41:35 pm
Otter why donít you just keep hoping for someone to help your team reach 1st place.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on October 26, 2020, 07:47:10 pm
The Packers were 17-4 in the last decade against the bears and 42-19 in the past 30 years.

I think that we're doing fine.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 26, 2020, 07:47:42 pm
Our coaches have to be some of the worst in the league.  The record is inspire of the coaching not because of it.

I really hope we fire Nagy at the end of this year.  I personally have seen enough.  He is not my head coach.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 07:47:48 pm
Patterson might be a good decoy one day...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 07:48:54 pm
That was easy.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 07:53:02 pm
3rd and 2. Where is Patterson?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 07:55:21 pm
Nagy setting the league up for the Bears to go to not-Patterson some time this season.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 08:02:07 pm
Gashing them for chunks again.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 08:04:22 pm
This D can not get off the field. Nagy getting outclassed and out coached again.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 26, 2020, 08:06:44 pm
Refs seem to have early money on the Rams.  And Nagy can you PLEASE throw to Kmet more????
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 08:09:24 pm
Yeah...they are never going to get anywhere with him.  He a glorified QB coach and Pace is a glorified defensive scout. Both men are over their heads...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on October 26, 2020, 08:10:00 pm
That spot is going to be changed.



Ref's must be playing favorites...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 26, 2020, 08:14:06 pm
How does Coward stay on the field?  Ditto for Leno. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 08:15:24 pm
Giving up big plays
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 26, 2020, 08:27:09 pm
Leno standing around in the backfield, alone, on that sack.  Our OLine is horrid. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 08:27:57 pm
2nd and 14. I know. Letís run it right at the middle of the line and Aaron Donald where weíve been getting 2 yards per carry all night. Good job Nagy.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 08:29:34 pm
A sane person thanks his lucky stars he got anything out of Leno, he doesnít EXTEND him...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 08:30:34 pm
And Floyd runs right past Massie for the sack.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 26, 2020, 08:31:03 pm
And Massie takes his turn on queue, and of course Floyd gets the sack.  SMH
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 08:33:49 pm
Floyd shows up on Monday nights
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 26, 2020, 08:35:36 pm
And with 20 seconds Nagy doesnt force them to punt.  Idiot, pure idiot. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 08:36:16 pm
Great **** job Nagy. Letís take that time out into the locker room. Not like you could return a punt or block one or anything like that. Genius coach.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 26, 2020, 08:37:16 pm
No matter what happens this year I would be happy with Mr Be You coaching anywhere else next year. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 08:38:54 pm
I wish the Bears could find some people that know what they are doing to run the football side...I wonder who ďTed PhillipsĒ likes this time.

These guys will probably make a one and done in the playoffs and then extend each other for three or four more years of this never going to be good enough marginal BS
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on October 26, 2020, 08:38:56 pm
Horrible...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on October 26, 2020, 08:39:10 pm
I am starting to really really hate Matt Nagy.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 08:42:57 pm
What was his excuse for mismanaging the clock at the end of the last two games?  Oh yeah. ďWe wee being aggressive.Ē

What a crock of shiot. What is he going to say about the end of the half?  How about, ďI donít have a flicking clue on what Iím doing out there.Ē
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 26, 2020, 08:43:41 pm
Come on VJ just Be You!!!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 08:44:13 pm
And for Gipson just batting that ball thrown right to him down instead of trying to pick it off?  Well coached and prepared.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 08:48:14 pm
225 yards in the first half. One defense showed up. And they didnít fly from Chicago.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 08:49:59 pm
This 5-1 team is as close to a 1-5 team as it could be
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 08:52:37 pm
They might still win this game...but this kind of stuff never flies in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 26, 2020, 08:56:01 pm
Have we ever heard of a fair catch on a punt???
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on October 26, 2020, 08:57:06 pm
I thought that too...but that ball landed on the 5...Iíd be pissed if he fair caught one there...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 09:02:05 pm
Wide open and overthrows him by 10 yards.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 26, 2020, 09:08:07 pm
This game is about to be over.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 09:08:57 pm
One team wants it. And one team is poorly coached with a career backup QB starting. This team still has all the potential to finish 5-11.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 26, 2020, 09:12:06 pm
And I am done, just like the Bears tonight.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 09:13:57 pm
This is how they lost last year.  Zero offense undisciplined defense....tons of penalties....losing on special teams
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 09:16:31 pm
I wouldnít ever try Patterson at punt return even one single time because that wouldnít make any sense at all...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 09:18:56 pm
Yep. Thatís how you remain a backup your whole career. Stupid pass.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 09:20:20 pm
That was classic Nagy...Jimmy Graham on the sidelines.  And a end zone pic.  Nice Nick
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 09:27:12 pm
Another whiff tackle and he walks into the end zone.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 09:29:11 pm
Well the Rams came out with last yearís game plan and the Bears werenít ready for it
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on October 26, 2020, 09:35:42 pm
The worst head coach in the NFL.  Truly awful.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 09:35:59 pm
There is Patterson. 4th and 1. Give it to the kick returner. Good call Nagy.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 26, 2020, 09:36:32 pm
Bears are the worst tackling NFL Defense I have seen in quite some time.  We can pressure the QB but we cannot tackle.


On offense we cannot block anyone.  There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Montgomery is a top 3 back in the league with an Oline and a offensive coach that knows how to run a real NFL offense.  Not gimmicky BS
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 09:37:20 pm
It fails over and over and over and over but he is going to keep going to it because he is the smartest one in the building. The one time it works he will have been proven right and can say I told you so.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 26, 2020, 09:37:41 pm
Letís see,   a play design where Javon Wims has to block a line backer on a slow developing play.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 09:41:48 pm
If the Bears are going to get another offensive head coach that calls plays....friendly suggestion...identify a guy who has called plays before in the NFL...and not for Cleveland
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 09:43:42 pm
Finally some one makes a play. Little too little too late.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 26, 2020, 09:43:56 pm
Well our OC called plays for Cincinnati LOL
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 26, 2020, 09:45:08 pm
Why wouldn't the standing defensive call be ALWAYS RUN TO PATTERSON?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 26, 2020, 09:49:44 pm
Thereís a youngish starting guard released this week by the Bulls they really need to sign.

They have to poach someoneís practice squad or do something about this OL.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 09:55:08 pm
4th down. Leno blocks no one and watches 4 defenders meet at the QB. LOL.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 09:55:32 pm
At least he helped him get up.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 09:56:38 pm
LOL. Defense scores more than the Nagy offense.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on October 26, 2020, 09:59:15 pm
If the Bears are going to get another offensive head coach that calls plays....friendly suggestion...identify a guy who has called plays before in the NFL...and not for Cleveland
After tonight, weíll have the same record as the Browns...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 10:07:58 pm
Throw it up for grabs. 4 blue jerseys and one white.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on October 26, 2020, 10:10:11 pm
Throw it up for grabs. 4 blue jerseys and one white.
And Miller wide open in the middle of the field...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 26, 2020, 10:10:26 pm
I hope McVay says they are who we thought they were during his post game presser.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 26, 2020, 10:13:10 pm
Why doesnít Ginn just rush the punter since heís not going to catch anything
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on October 26, 2020, 10:28:02 pm
Football Aftershow should be fun tonight...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on October 27, 2020, 12:56:35 am

The Rams really don't have any offensive superstars - a very solid QB and a very solid offensive line.   Solid skill guys nothing special.

But the Rams keep you guessing and they never just hand the ball to a running back up the middle like Bears do continually.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on October 27, 2020, 03:21:43 am
just for playing Coward Nagy deserves to be fired.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 27, 2020, 06:08:25 am
Turned the game off after the 4th and one "run" with Patterson. That play just sums up Nagy "the offensive genius"... Unfortunately missed the fumble score but at least I got some much needed sleep....

That man just does has no feel for the personel on the field and their capabilities- instead trying for the cute play or trick. Why does so happen that a player starting to have success (Kmet early) vanishes for the rest of the game ? Is he being keyed on by the D or is Nagy adjusting him out of the game.

Nagy has no feel for flow of the game. It seems they play worse on offense after he takes  a timeout. And the clock management at the end of the half ? Come on. A **** 10 year old madden player would do a better job managing the clock. I think it comes down to Nagy doing too much and he can't do it.

Time to pass play calling to someone else (he can still draw his plays etc but get someone with a working knowledge of game-flow and personel to call the plays). Then he concentrate on learning how to manage the clock. And challenges. And what song to play in "club flub er I mean dub"....

Suppose Cohen being out is the only reason Monty is the one getting blown up running up the gut instead (at least he has the size to fight for 1.2 yards a gain). And if Coward is the best option out there on a borderline terrible offensive line, then that is a true indictment of Nagy/Pace......

This team has a good chance of going full "Trest-mess" from here on out if Nagy does not get his head of out his ass. Its obvious to everyone but himself that Nagy cannot run the offense "his way". And if Coward is being trotted out there as the best of the remaining bunch, then that is just pathetic....

This team was a borderline 8-8 team before the season and nothing in this season has changed that. Where they go no is in Nagy's court. Wake the **** up. Please.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 27, 2020, 07:42:19 am
So why is it the Rams get 11-12 yards every single time they run the Jet Sweep, and we continue to run it and get 1-2 yards?  As much as some posters like to defend Leno and Massie, they both need to go, and not soon enough.  I would play Spriggs or the massive 2 7th round rookies.  I would play Bars instead of Coward.  It is really looking like Harry Hiestand wasnt the problem last year, and Juan Castillo isnt the answer.  I think it is combo of dumb shitt Nagy play calls and pisss poor talent.  We need bigger, stronger, more discplined OL men. Period.  And you could see last night that Foles had 2.4 seconds before he was getting hit, every time.  You wonder why he cant get his feet set, find a second option, or move the ball down field.  And one other thing, why is it that our WORST OL all seem to stay healthy?  I mean cant Leno get some shin splints, or Massie get an arm bruise, or Coward get turf toe?  I mean they do a LOT of just standing around so I guess you dont get hurt not doing anything.  The good thing is they are there to help Foles up off the turf after he gets plastered.  SMH.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on October 27, 2020, 07:58:49 am
The whole team lacks discipline....that's a reflection on the head coach IMO.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on October 27, 2020, 09:00:03 am
I turned it off when it became 24-3. Just too sick and fed up with the quality of play.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 27, 2020, 09:45:15 am
Nice rant in the first 10 minutes:

https://youtu.be/DZrPCUmOvdE
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: 46 on October 27, 2020, 09:52:53 am
need a running game which means a better offensive line. If the ball ain't coming out quick its game over for that play. I  don't blame foles for that  wideopen miss. he was in the endzone and had to get rid of it . all blocking sucks. better linemen
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 27, 2020, 10:09:02 am
Actually the long passes Fole threw at the end of the game, he was just guessing and throwing to a spot, not knowing if a WR was going to be open.  I mean all of the double coverages, WHY would he throw there?  Because he doesnt have the time.  Must fix the line, whatever it takes.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on October 27, 2020, 12:04:18 pm

I kept seeing the Rams overload a side of the field a second after the snap of the ball.  Every Ram on a Bear like glue, sometimes 2 Rams on a Bear defender. 

And the Rams running backs taking their time to find the best hole knowing that most of the time the Bears aren't going to get off their blocks.

Not blaming the Bears defense.  They were playing with a short field and weren't getting breaks with our offense not maintaining possession.  But I just found it amazing how coordinated and efficient the Rams O-line was - getting a maximum number of blockers at the point of attack.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on October 27, 2020, 01:10:29 pm
Excellent Hoge and Jahns postgame podcast:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/week-7-postgame-foles-vs-nagy-controversy-embarrassing/id1027584309?i=1000496251205
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 27, 2020, 04:20:26 pm
Pace is not going to do anything.  All through 2018, Parkey hung off the lip of the Bears like a giant fever blister ....on an otherwise dangerous playoff calibre team.  I think he missed an XP in the last regular season game.  But f*uckhead keeps him on the roster because he'd foolishly overpaid him for no good reason.  Exact same reason Leno is flopping around out there now.  He believes in his guys, even if it requires suspension of belief.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on October 27, 2020, 04:23:57 pm
Well. We know it wasnít Mitch now. Nagy has no one else to blame but himself. He has his choice at QB and we still have the same results.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 27, 2020, 04:36:17 pm
Nagy shouldn't be calling plays if he wants to salvage anything out of his probably one chance to be a head coach.  Who is going to hire an offensive HC that can't coordinate offense or call plays?    The only thing I can say right now is his guys never quit, but you did see moments of the checked out feel of the defense last night on a 5-2 team.

Mitch is inaccurate and can't read defenses, with the possible exception of undisguised man coverage like Detroit plays.  He won't be in the league in 2022. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on October 27, 2020, 06:35:42 pm
Michael Wilbon shows the sentiments of most Bear fans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk4HFXMSk5Q
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on October 27, 2020, 08:23:09 pm
Guys,


Nagy is 25-14 overall record and youíre acting like his Abe Gibeon.


Heís you coach next year too when you again draft a QB in first round.


You guys are just pissed that it 0-2 against the Pack again.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on October 28, 2020, 12:47:26 am

What can an offense do to negate a strong pass rush?

Have the Bears successfully executed a screen pass this year - or have they even attempted one?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 28, 2020, 07:22:41 am
Haven't seen a successful screen in a long time. Time for Nagy to stop "being you" and doing the opposite. Being You isn't working.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on October 28, 2020, 09:14:38 am
Complaining about the OL, and I have done so plenty, is frankly like pissing in the wind.  Pace can't or won't do anything about it. 

Meanwhile, SF OL was rated next to dead last earlier this month, was decimated by injuries, started Grasu at center, and they beat down the Rams last week on national TV.

Nagy's job is to scheme away their weakness up front, stop calling plays that NEVER work, and put his best players on the field.  If that means using a post it note with a Shoopified playbook so be it.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on October 28, 2020, 10:19:57 am
Bears need to hold an intervention for Nagy. "Back own the playsheet and aknowledge you've got a problem.".... :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on October 28, 2020, 12:15:21 pm
The Bears can't stop the run and they can't run the ball.  Therefore they won't beat many good teams.

Our o-line is terrible and with injuries has gotten worse.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 28, 2020, 12:27:50 pm
They aren't gonna beat anybody with Nagy. He's exactly nowhere in the middle of his third year.  In a league where all the rules favor the offense and passing, you are never going to get anywhere without an offense especially a passing offense.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 28, 2020, 12:32:02 pm
Ryan Pace's studs acquired on offense via draft or FA in six years.

Allen Robinson


Am I forgetting anybody?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on October 28, 2020, 02:23:53 pm

James Daniels has graded out among the top LGs in the league.   Mooney is looking like a steal in the 5th round.

Jimmy Graham has shown red zone ability but is not a down field threat any longer.  Kmet could be - but I'd like to see more than 5 catches in 7 games from our top 2nd round pick.

As for Whitehair, I thought he was grading well at center, but Kreutz just slammed his ability to read defensive alignments.

But yeah, Allen Robinson is the tallest midget in our offense - really really good receiver but not going to make the pro bowl.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on October 28, 2020, 06:07:58 pm
draft Dr Phil - the tape never lies - has been very critical of Whitehair.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on October 28, 2020, 07:57:25 pm
Otto just wants the Bears to keep trying to win with defense and special teams....I can't blame him for that

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 02:35:41 pm
Well. Looks like the Bears could be back in 1st place again if they can take care of business today.

LOL!    HAHAHHAHA!!!!  Just remembered Nagy is the HC. I would bet all my moneys that the kick returner is used as the RB sometime in the first possession unless itís a three and out. Hell he will probably use him even then.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 02:36:28 pm
GB with a huge 3rd down stop that just might give them a chance with 5:47 to go.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 03:36:18 pm
Bend and let them score another FG defense working like a charm. Now time for Nagy to show us his 3 and out offense.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 03:38:35 pm
Patterson at RB second play of the game again
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 03:47:49 pm
WTF?  Bring Mitch in for that?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 03:48:25 pm
Nagy copying Payton?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 03:48:29 pm
That was all Montgomery there.  Our O-line blows chunks!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 03:50:33 pm
Wow the whole line met at the QB.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 03:51:09 pm
Leno let his guy turn him and run right past him.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on November 01, 2020, 03:53:29 pm
I've absolutely had it with pointing out how pathetic Leno is. Bench that clown already!! 😡😡
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 04:00:40 pm
At this point I am not sure they have anybody left to replace him with.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 04:01:48 pm
Hill in. QB run. Why canít the D figure that out?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 04:02:13 pm
I bet Nagy runs Mitch again.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 04:04:05 pm
The bend and allow a FG defense works again.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 04:04:17 pm
Missed it. Wow.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on November 01, 2020, 04:05:29 pm
Bears get a doink to go their way...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 04:08:50 pm
Wow. Did they just complete a long pass?!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 04:09:41 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 04:09:57 pm
OMFG!  Two long passes!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 04:10:09 pm
Nice catch by Robinson.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on November 01, 2020, 04:11:34 pm
Bears, you friggin bozos, PAY ROBINSON!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on November 01, 2020, 04:11:48 pm
Maybe Nagy came up with a game plan this week
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on November 01, 2020, 04:15:01 pm
ďPaceĒ seems primed to run his only great move on offense out of town....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on November 01, 2020, 04:23:32 pm
That was a pathetic offensive series...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 04:50:34 pm
Nagy is a moron for calling that time out.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 04:51:02 pm
**** incredible.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 04:51:21 pm
This defense has no heart.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 04:51:41 pm
Why did they go to a prevent defense for that entire drive?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 04:52:39 pm
Because the head coach is a fvcking idiot.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on November 01, 2020, 04:56:17 pm
Pagano could have called that series a little better...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 05:12:18 pm
Foles is a fvcking idiot too.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 05:13:18 pm
Now the special teams falls apart. Must have been one great half time speech.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 05:14:07 pm
Make no mistake. That BS at the end of the half flipped this game.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 05:14:54 pm
And it all started when Nagy called that time out for NO.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 05:16:38 pm
Since he pulled that **** N.O. Has 10 points in less than 4 minutes.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 05:21:05 pm
Cut Wims!  That was idiotic!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 05:21:07 pm
Great discipline.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 05:21:46 pm
WTF?  This team sucks ass!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 01, 2020, 05:22:22 pm
Is wims on drugs?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 01, 2020, 05:22:37 pm
When your head coach is one of the very worst in the history of the league, your team is going to be very poorly coached.  Is that a surprise?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 05:22:57 pm
Total frocking meltdown mode.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 05:23:10 pm
When they lose this game I want Nagy fired!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 05:23:38 pm
Now Foles shows his ass.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on November 01, 2020, 05:24:27 pm
Another WTF interception from Foles
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 05:24:34 pm
Fvck it. Pagano can finish this season.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on November 01, 2020, 05:25:31 pm
too bad games aren't 28 minutes
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 05:28:23 pm
And there is the dagger no respect for you shiot defense. Weíre going on 4th and long and weíre going to make it.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 05:30:41 pm
And the lead has successfully been relinquished. Good Job Coaching coach.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 05:32:04 pm
Maybe we can watch your hand picked QB who admits you donít know what the hell is going on on the field toss up another INT.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 05:42:27 pm
D shows up.

Now can the O stop stepping on their own dick?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 01, 2020, 05:42:49 pm
Did Payton let Nagy call that 4th down play for him?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 05:50:44 pm
You just have to laugh at this point.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 05:51:53 pm
Threw it right to him.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 06:01:00 pm
20 unanswered points. What now coach?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 01, 2020, 06:02:48 pm
Nagy really is the worst.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 01, 2020, 06:04:44 pm
Foles' headset being broken could be the greatest thing that ever happened to this team.

Let Foles call the plays.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 06:04:48 pm
Cute play coach. -3 yards.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 06:18:12 pm
LOL. WOW.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 06:19:44 pm
That is incredible they got the ball back.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 06:28:04 pm
Fvck that icing the kicker BS.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 06:29:27 pm
I think we have a kicker anyway.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 06:29:40 pm
Now if only we had an offensive line...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 01, 2020, 06:30:23 pm
Now if only we had an offensive line...

And a head coach.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 06:34:44 pm
Can this D stand up?  Will they keep them out of the end zone? 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 06:44:30 pm
Throw it away asswhole!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 06:47:09 pm
Two drops in a row.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 06:47:20 pm
Two drops in a row and Foles takes another sack.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 06:48:00 pm
WTF?  Run for the first or at least some more yardage.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 06:49:16 pm
They need the defense to get them the Ball if they are going to win this game.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 06:51:12 pm
Thatís game
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dogstoothe on November 01, 2020, 06:52:53 pm
Jimmy Graham - what a stale cracker.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 06:54:07 pm
Need a takeaway
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 06:57:28 pm
This loss is all on Nagy.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 06:58:54 pm
Why the **** did Nagy waste a time out there?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 06:59:31 pm
Why did Nagy just call TO?

I am officially on the fire Nagy bandwagon now.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 06:59:57 pm
Nagy is the worst coach ever.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on November 01, 2020, 07:11:36 pm
Remember one thing.. Nagy's expertise was supposedly offense. When they fire Nagy, please fire Pace as well..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 01, 2020, 07:20:49 pm
They are both gone after this season I hope.

Nagy's offense is a joke. 

The O-line is reason enough for Pace to be fired.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 01, 2020, 07:24:12 pm
Your Chicago Bears are the #1 most penalized team in the NFL. That lies at the feet of the coaches.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on November 01, 2020, 08:39:04 pm

You saw what a real NFL offensive line can do today.  The Saints offense had no starting quality NFL wide receivers and they put up a decent performance.  Again how can other teams seal off the edge on sweeps?  How can other teams peel off and slide out and block downfield on screens? 

Our offensive line can't even handle a criss cross defensive pass rush.

I can't fault Foles - he completed some do or die passes and he finally hit a bomb.    He has his limitations - we know he's not mobile and often times he locks on a guy and take a sack, but he wasn't why the Bears lost today.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on November 01, 2020, 09:41:34 pm
Bears wouldnt have even made it to OT with Trubisky. Well the Bears depleted their Oline today. Will the 7th round rookies on the PS be activated for the next game?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on November 01, 2020, 10:44:41 pm

Bench Coward and put in Bars.  Hope Whitehair can come back.  And looks like Spriggs will be our right tackle. 

Surprisingly, Leno was the best pass blocker today.

Coach up the practice squad - they could be starting before this season plays out.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on November 02, 2020, 04:37:17 am
I swear Nagy leads the league on wasted downs on those silly reverses.

Ball at the 1?  Go shotgun and run up the middle.  After the predictable 3 yard loss, THEN go under center at the 4 and run up the middle where everyone is waiting for you.  No need for a play action there...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on November 02, 2020, 06:23:01 am
Will the 7th round rookies on the PS be activated for the next game?

After you cut Wims and Ginn, there'll be room...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 02, 2020, 06:53:05 am
Observations (FWIW):

1. The Nagy Clown Show is tired and tiresome to watch. His offense is offensive to everything in offensive football....

2. Its just a feeling but I think Pagano is doing less with more talent. Wasn't sold on him coming here and still am not. Defense is still good though (but it will never take that "GREAT" step it needs to be beloved by the fans)...

3. What is it with the NFL and those low-grade autistic refs ?

4. On the bright side, the Bears did make some long plays and at least 1 long run. Oh yeah, and Ginn Jr is finally riding the pine.....

4a. Santos is the new Bear kicker. On that note, leave it to the Bears to sign the wrong coach from KC (Nagy) instead of the right one (Toub). So Bear-like to correctly identify the zipcode but screw up the house number. Kind of like selecting the worst QB (after drafting up) from those selected in the top half of the draft....

5. The excuse of Oline injuries is now in play. A crap Oline just got crappier (if that was even possible). Maybe its a blessing in disguise ? Now they have to move guys around and can find someone, anyone who is not a stiff or a turnstile ? Nagy probably sez "Nah, It'll be fine."

Here comes the slide to 7-9 or 6-10.........
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 02, 2020, 08:39:20 am
Quote
Bears wouldnt have even made it to OT with Trubisky.

And you know this how?  Maybe you are right.  They might have won in regulation with his mobility to run for some yards when the pocket just literally collapses.  If it makes you feel good to continue to blame the QB's for this shitty offense instead of the real problem then so be it.

Nagy has his hand picked QB playing and it's still a shitty offense.  I don't care who is at QB anymore.  The plays that are being called and the clock management just don't make any sense.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on November 02, 2020, 11:22:57 am
Nagy needs to go, hands down.  And Pace with him, sad we need to start over again.  And what is it with our TEs who play against their old teams, and then play the worst game of their career?  Trey Burton and now Graham.  How many passes did he drop right in the bread basket? 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on November 02, 2020, 07:58:09 pm

I think Graham is best in red zone (jump balls) and short yardage - he seems to struggle running patterns in the open field.

Graham had 7 targets  - 2 catches.  Not all the misses were drops though.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on November 02, 2020, 09:37:57 pm
Graham did have a lot of drops & was criticized by the announcers for his lazy play. It was clearly his worst game as a Bear.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on November 08, 2020, 11:01:44 am
I just have this sick feeling Derrick Henry is going to be ripping of long runs, and a lot of them.  If Foles cant outscore Tannehill this is another loss.  And who is starting on the OL?  All we need is Nagy to try and get cute with scrubs up front.  I guess we shall see.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 08, 2020, 12:01:37 pm
Titans 36, Bears 0

Five FG, one defensive score, and two offensive TDs (one late when the defense is exhausted)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 12:07:48 pm
So getting the run going I see.  Lip service by Nagy again.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 08, 2020, 12:10:35 pm
Nagy is brutal.  One of the worst playcallers in NFL history.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 12:11:22 pm
WTF!  If I were the owner I would jerk his **** ass off the sidelines right now and fire him!

3rd and 5 run a 4 yard rout out of bounds.  Go on 4th and get stuffed in the backfield on a slow developing play.

FVCK NAGY!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 12:11:58 pm
He is a clueless offensive coordinator much less a head coach.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 08, 2020, 12:15:56 pm
Ifedi is terrible.

Donít see why they want to run behind him so much.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on November 08, 2020, 12:16:30 pm
Ifedi completely whiffed on his block. It looked like his head and eyes were straight down.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 12:16:56 pm
It is hard to block someone when you drop your head and look at the ground.  Who teaches that technique?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 12:17:20 pm
LOL.  You saw the same thing I did.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 08, 2020, 12:17:22 pm
Ifedi is terrible.

Yes, he is.

Donít see why they want to run behind him so much.

It's because he's their best offensive lineman.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 12:17:56 pm
coaching = horrible
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 12:20:08 pm
3rd and 3 lets pass because we want to establish the running game.  Of course the Oline whiffs again and Foles throws off his back foot about 20 yards out of bounds.

Fire Nagy.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 12:28:16 pm
3-0 game over.  I have no confidence in Nagy.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 08, 2020, 12:42:18 pm
I knew how this game would go and I am still disgusted by it.  It is like watching a car wreck in slow motion.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 12:44:14 pm
OMG watching Foles is unbearable.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 12:45:31 pm
3rd and 8 lets run that 4 yard pattern again.  This time I will throw it into the ground right in front of you.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on November 08, 2020, 12:55:04 pm
Mingo!

He has been much better than I expected. He was good in college, but hasnít been up to expectations yet as a pro.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 12:55:51 pm
So unprepared.  You run a fake play to get the first and some momentum and then call time out.  Like Nagy didn't even know what the special teams was going to do so he wasn't prepared with an offensive call.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 12:57:16 pm
Are these announcers blind?  That is the second time they were well short of the first and they said it was first.

3-2 FAILED again.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 12:58:49 pm
The Foles experiment is over. 

The Nagy experiment is over.

This is one of the WORST defenses in the league and you are being shut out and can not move the ball at all.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on November 08, 2020, 01:11:55 pm
AJ Brown is such a stud.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 08, 2020, 01:18:46 pm
Bears could set a record for negative running plays
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 01:19:08 pm
Troy Aikman was right.  Watching Nagy's offense is excruciatingly painful.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 01:19:35 pm
Quote
Bears could set a record for negative running plays

Against one of the worst Defenses in the league.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 08, 2020, 01:21:18 pm
They can't win another game with this offensive line. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on November 08, 2020, 01:21:21 pm
OíDonnell having a day...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 08, 2020, 01:24:29 pm
The defense has the guy McCullers from Pittsburgh playing.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 01:27:51 pm
Two back to back penalties.  Coaching and discipline
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 01:29:03 pm
That was disgusting and ugly.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on November 08, 2020, 01:32:37 pm
Nagy just gave up on that last possession.  No timeouts and he is dink and dunking over the middle of the field.  Nagy MUST go, toot sweet.  He is an idiot.  Coward must go also, and of course Speed Bump Charlie Leno, our most seasoned OL, has a penalty.  Ifedi wiffing on blocks, Foles is pooping his pants on every play.  Oh and how about the reverse draw that got -1 yard.  Cant wait to hear the rant on the tape never lies.  Nagy truly is a shoe salesman, he should be fired tonight or tom morning.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on November 08, 2020, 01:34:19 pm
On the D side, I am kind of shocked Henry isnt having a field day.  Maybe he is hurt or something.  Nice to see the pressure on Tannehill, but if the O doesnt start doing something they are going to get tired and stop trying.  Unless we get a score on D AND ST, we lose this game. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 08, 2020, 01:35:57 pm
Canít see what you expect Foles to do with such horrible protection.

The only effective QBís I know of under these circumstances are Rogers and Russell Wilson.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 08, 2020, 01:38:18 pm
I am not sure even they could do much with the state of this o-line.

They can't run block or pass block. 

So this is what you get.  A shitshow!

There are no play calls that can fix this.  They simply are not prepared to play and are not talented enough.

Nagy and Pace have to go!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 01:43:58 pm
WOW.  fist play of the second half.  Horrible.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 08, 2020, 01:52:02 pm
The defense will soon wear down on a hot day
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:03:11 pm
nice intentional grounding.  Idiot.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:04:16 pm
This is the second to last ranked Defense in the NFL that is shutting the Bears out and down. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:05:30 pm
3rd and 13.  Quick bet your house.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:06:17 pm
WOW.  Even worse then not picking it up.

This team is horrible.  They will finish the season 5-11.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:23:54 pm
Nice cute failed play on first and goal.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:24:17 pm
Run behind Leno for zero on second.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:24:46 pm
Interception on 3rd down.

Nice.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:25:27 pm
Got lucky that was incompleted.

4th down....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:26:03 pm
WOOOHOOOOO!  We got 3 points against the second worst defense in the league.

YAY NAGY!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 08, 2020, 02:31:38 pm
Dick Stockton is a legendary broadcaster.  I especially enjoyed his NBA work.

But his time has passed.  He is awful.  He has no idea what's going on in the game.

Kind of like Nagy in that regard.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:34:19 pm
That was easy.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:35:36 pm
3 points.  3 **** points against this defense.

And you are supposed to be an offensive genius?

Horrible.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:41:16 pm
Montgomery is hurt.  At least that won't affect the offense since they don't use a running game anyway.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:47:33 pm
GOD PLEASE SWITCH TO CAROLINA KC GAME!!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:52:26 pm
another fumble lost.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:52:54 pm
5-11 here we come!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:54:30 pm
Robinson looks like he can't wait to sign somewhere else.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on November 08, 2020, 02:55:40 pm
5-11 would be the best thing to happen for this team.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 08, 2020, 02:57:42 pm
5-11 would be the best thing to happen for this team.

Correct.  The actual final record will feature the most wins possible without reaching the playoffs.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 08, 2020, 02:58:56 pm
I agree.

If they end up around .500 or a little under they probably won't get fired.  They will use the injuries and covid as an excuse to keep them another year.

5-11 would probably get them both fired and a better draft pick.

I frankly don't see them winning another game.  This is the worst O-line I have ever seen and we have had some bad ones in the past.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 02:59:16 pm
5-11 with the worst offense in the league...

Clean house from Pace down.

Trade what you can get anything for.  Including Mack.

Start over.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 08, 2020, 03:01:22 pm
Only way I trade Mack is if we get back what we gave for him.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 08, 2020, 03:02:45 pm
I wonder if the reason the Bears didn't extend Trubisky and made the switch so quick is if they knew he was always going to have issues with shoulder injuries.

This is what his third shoulder injury?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 03:10:20 pm
Quote
Only way I trade Mack is if we get back what we gave for him.

You won't get back what you gave up but I would take two firsts.  He can still draw that kind of interest especially from a team that already has multiple firsts.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 08, 2020, 03:12:24 pm
I would do it for two first round picks.

We are going to be in full on rebuild mode.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 08, 2020, 03:14:05 pm
I thought the Bears were going to try to establish the run today?

Rush plays: 20
Pass plays: 52
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on November 08, 2020, 03:14:55 pm
Can I officially start the #FIRENAGYNOW movement?  I would love 5-11, as painful as it would be, just like the last 3 games.  Nagy needs to go, take Foles with him, and fire Pace also, as we dont want him drafting our next QB and hiring another coach.  Putrid game call.  Please tell me why with no time outs Nagy keeps calling passes over the middle?  And why didnt we throw to Graham in the endzone sooner?  You know the guy who is 6'7" and 265 lbs?  Oh thats right, because our coach is Nagy.  bummed about Montgomery, but yeah I can see Robinson, and all of the O playmakers looking to leave town as soon as possible. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on November 08, 2020, 03:16:54 pm
The lack of discipline on both sides of the ball comes from the head coach.  Makes me sick, when we have a bunch of talent, and it goes wasted like that.  so much for our "window". 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 08, 2020, 04:16:24 pm
Can I officially start the #FIRENAGYNOW movement?

You're late, Bro.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on November 08, 2020, 04:56:53 pm
1st downs - Bears 22, Titans 11

total yards - Bears 375, Titans 228

and yet the Bears looked like syhitte.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on November 08, 2020, 06:03:03 pm
The Bears are nowhere.  Iím ready to fire

Ted Phillips (itíll never happen)
Ryan Pace (glorified defensive scout)
Matt Nagy ( I thought he was smart but heís WAY over his head.  Glorified quarterback coach.

Itís a passing league. Stop spending so much on defense and going with garbage on offfense.  New GM. New HC.  Build an OL 

Hit on some draft picks.  Find a QB....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on November 08, 2020, 09:12:05 pm
Stelz



Santaís bag ainít that big.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 09, 2020, 08:46:56 am
Um... Well that was an ugly game for sure......

The defense did its job for the most part (you keep a team to 17 points and if you have any average NFL offense you should win the game). Unfortunately the offense went from scoring for the Bears to scoring AGAINST the Bears. Talk about going backwards. Not sure how NAGY keeps his job through the season at this rate (offensive guru my ass)......

Lack of discipline is killing this team (as well as dip **** predictable play calling). This team does not seem to even know where the 1st down sticks are......

Someone should tell Nawji he needs to stop being "You" and become something else that works better......

Dark times ahead indeed......

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: stelz on November 09, 2020, 11:14:53 am
If I'm the Bears....I'd throw a gazillion dollars at a proven GM, to try to pry him away from a successful team.  Like the Cubs did with Theo Epstein.

You currently have no mechanism in place to identify a potential GM....McCaskey and Phillips should not be allowed to choose another "rising star ::) ::) ::)" GM candidate or we'll end up with another Pace/Nagy/trubisky trifecta of uselessness
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 09, 2020, 11:18:14 am
Didn't they use Ernie Accorsi to identify Pace and Fox?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on November 09, 2020, 11:20:39 am
yup. So how did that work for you?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on November 09, 2020, 02:07:59 pm
looking at the highlights, I'd say Ifedi & Hambright stood out as bad - bad on a really bad OL. Thought Bars did OK considering he's not a center.

Thought this patchwork OL did poor, but better than expected in pass blocking, but the run blocking was just horrendous. Graham also blocked badly at TE.

Nall, Kmet & Ridley need to play more. I'm tired of the Patterson as RB experiment.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: 46 on November 09, 2020, 03:06:11 pm
Alot of times those guys just simply got thrown out of the way. I'm really surprised a punt wasn't blocked. What money is being spent is obviously going in the wrong areas.  I saw
where the last time the Bears drafted an ol was 2013, Kyle Long.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 09, 2020, 03:13:52 pm
I think for this year hopefully Monday Mustipher at center and Whitehair LG. Put Bars at RT.  He played it some at Notre dame.  Sign Cush for RG.

Off-season first rounder LT third round RG.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 09, 2020, 03:20:18 pm
"Deck Chairs meet the Titanic" is the best description of the Bears Oline situation. And the band played on......

Strange feeling that they still haven't plumbed the depths totally. It will probably get worse before it gets better....

At least Roquan is looking good (I hope I didn't just jinx him....:D)

Dark days ahead for all, I'm afraid. But in the end daylight must surely come at last.....



Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on November 09, 2020, 04:00:45 pm
I think for this year hopefully Monday Mustipher at center and Whitehair LG. Put Bars at RT.  He played it some at Notre dame.  Sign Cush for RG.

Off-season first rounder LT third round RG.

I thought Bars was the only lineman that had a decent game Sunday.  But none of that group can move anyone off the LOS.  Keep Whitehair at center, put Bars in at LG and leave Coward at RT until Spriggs returns.

Kush was solid and would be an improvement over Ifedi.  He started 7 games with the Bears in '18 and 7 more in '19 for the Browns.  But I doubt the Bears demote Ifedi.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on November 09, 2020, 09:09:24 pm
gotta find a way to bench Cowart now. Leno (I am the walrus coo coo kachoo) must be replaced in the off season.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on November 10, 2020, 04:39:22 am
I would give the coach from Miami a lot of money to come to Chicago.  He has done brilliant things in a short amount of time down there. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on November 10, 2020, 09:15:48 am

Why would Miami let him go?  Why would a coach leave a team with a potential franchise QB to come to the Bears?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 07:30:07 pm
Same ****. Different day. Foles throws behind the WR for another pick.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on November 16, 2020, 07:35:40 pm
Canít have that...clean pocket, and wide open target...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 07:49:17 pm
Yep. Missed graham wide open for a TD.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 07:49:43 pm
Wasted a first and goal situation.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 16, 2020, 08:15:31 pm
This soft zone defense is frustrating to watch
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 08:22:39 pm
If they are going to score a TD itís going to have to be the defense.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on November 16, 2020, 08:26:32 pm
I do like the fact that we are forcing turnovers, for a change...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 08:41:38 pm
Ok. Maybe the special teams. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 16, 2020, 08:42:21 pm
Now they need to rattle Cousins with blitzes.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 08:43:20 pm
Special team coach for minny just got a litttle bit of ass chewed.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 08:48:37 pm
So bears. Special teams give it back.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 16, 2020, 09:04:04 pm
Foles really needs to step into his throws so theyíre not too high.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 09:16:54 pm
83-2 yards in the third and they still have the ball.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 09:17:19 pm
Great now Hicks limps off.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 16, 2020, 09:24:17 pm
Horrible play design. 

Only 3 receivers and none in the wide open middle.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 09:40:00 pm
When was the last offensive TD? 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 09:40:48 pm
9:45 in the fourth and they have -2 yards of offense in the second half.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 09:41:49 pm
And in other 3 and out.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 09:42:27 pm
And how is that blow to the head not called?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on November 16, 2020, 09:46:07 pm
How does a team with no RB run a damn wildcat?

Twice?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 16, 2020, 09:54:07 pm
Oh seriously that screen is going to was going to work the first time this year
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 16, 2020, 09:55:19 pm
Lazor may be worse than Nagy.  Think about that.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 09:56:09 pm
Anyone notice the guy next to Nagy with the Dennyís be you menu on the 3rd and 5 screen pass for -4?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 10:05:41 pm
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v434/wmljohn/969C7A29_72CC_4AE6_8B4A_0C00AC8AC213_IMG_1267.HEIC)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 10:08:00 pm
The O-line finally got Foles killed.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 16, 2020, 10:13:30 pm
Well Matt Nagy now the whole country knows what an offensive genius you are.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 16, 2020, 10:14:04 pm
He's offensive, for sure.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 10:14:23 pm
Still on pace for 5-11
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 16, 2020, 10:15:48 pm
I guess they go back to Mitch if Nick is out for any significant time.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 16, 2020, 10:17:29 pm
Isnít Mitch already out for a long time too?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 16, 2020, 11:55:32 pm
Time for Bray to get killed behind this line.

Mitch is out with  shoulder injury.

Pace and Nagy better be fired after this debacle!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on November 17, 2020, 12:25:21 am

Darnell Mooney - 2 receptions 3 yards.

It's not just the play calling  - it's the plays.

Fire them all.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on November 17, 2020, 04:49:32 am
Not wasting my time with this sh!t anymore.  Blow it up.  I'm done.

2018 was a worse mirage than 2001.

And after the smoke clears, Ted's sweaty ass still sits in the president's chair waiting to sign off on the new GM/HC and nothing will change.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on November 17, 2020, 04:56:14 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em_30VBXcAEebxl?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on November 17, 2020, 07:59:42 am
A couple of observations from the game.  Skrine was getting torched.  Repeatedly.  And our all pro highest paid saftey in the NFL misses A LOT of tackles. 

When Hicks went out the Vikes run game started up.  And our $70 million dollar guy Quinn hasnt really earned much this year.

What can I say about the O?  In the begining Foles had time and a pocket.  Then the Vikes started to blitz, and our OL had no clue what to do and Foles got mauled.  If I was Mitch I would be faking my injury so I dont have to play for Nagy again.  Kind of the big FU dude.   

What really blows is that we are at least 2 years away from outstanding drafting and free agency and coaching changes to become decent.  And by then the D will be in full on decline.  I just wonder if they lose the next 6 games if there is any way in heck they can launch Nagy, and Pace along with him.  Unless we get rid of both I have zero confidence in Pace fixing anything. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: 46 on November 17, 2020, 09:10:35 am
Remember, Ted's job is not to build a winning football franchise. His job is to generate as much revenue as possible for the McCaskeys.  He does that very well.  If the Bears win while doing it, fine, if not, meh.  One hundred and forty nine yards of offense all night. Six points. Six. Remember, the Bears get their share of nfl revenue, like all the other teams. And they couldn't even get the six points in one drive, it took them two.  This has been an absolute mess since before Muggs died.  They need to move back to Decatur.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on November 17, 2020, 09:11:48 am
WML - I was wondering the same thing.  Really, was Nagy still calling some of the plays.  The mask was good cover.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on November 17, 2020, 09:50:02 am
The worst part is, I don't think Pace and Nagy are going to get fired unless the collapse is complete.  There's just going to be too many excuses for the bears FO to use to rationalize this incompetence.  Best thing for the fans and franchise would be a full scale player revolt. 

Those two lunkheads are going to be back next year and desperate. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on November 17, 2020, 10:09:21 am
I could see Nagy going.  I believe Pace has endeared himself to the McCaskey's.  I think Pace will get another shot at hiring a head coach.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 17, 2020, 10:31:42 am
And the slow suicide of the Chicago Bears franchise continues, unfortunately.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on November 29, 2020, 02:50:29 pm
Whats the over under for the number of blatant bad ref calls for the Fudge Pack, especially in the second half of the game???
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 29, 2020, 05:22:35 pm
Well the colts had 9 holding alone against them at one point last week.

Mostly in the last 10 minutes of the game.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 29, 2020, 06:30:55 pm
Hicks is inactive.  0% chance they win with out him.

Packers will be able to run the ball at will.  Which will allow Rodgers to pick them apart.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 29, 2020, 07:12:47 pm
Packers 41, Bears 10
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dogstoothe on November 29, 2020, 07:18:45 pm
That weirdo Aaron Rogers, looks likes all the time heís on methadone. Bears by 7.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 29, 2020, 07:32:48 pm
How are the Bears going to score 10?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 29, 2020, 07:34:04 pm
3 man rush?  I never like that
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 29, 2020, 07:35:07 pm
Just like I said with out Hicks they can't stop the run.  What did they average 8 yards a carry running on the first drive.  That will get better as the game goes on unless they bring a guy up to stop it.  If they do that Rogers will just tear them up through the air. 

Now we get to see our terrible offense.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 29, 2020, 07:36:35 pm
They need to be coming every down.  It is their only shot.  Got to create havoc and turnovers.

 

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 29, 2020, 07:39:42 pm
Nice run by Montgomery.

Incomplete pass.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 29, 2020, 07:40:58 pm
Trubisky and Montgomery did their jobs.  The receivers and TE not so much...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 29, 2020, 07:47:58 pm
Bad call.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 29, 2020, 08:03:36 pm
Terrible decision there Trubisky.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on November 29, 2020, 08:05:18 pm
Typical. No change in Trubisky. Same ol....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on November 29, 2020, 08:09:38 pm
Skrine has been really awful lately.  Got to give someone else a shot at slot.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on November 29, 2020, 08:13:06 pm
Did the Bears make the trip?  They sure aren't showing up at all tonight. It's the Nagy no shows
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on November 29, 2020, 08:14:58 pm
This game no different then any of the others this year.

I think Bears should fire Pace, Nagy and staff.

Trevethan signing for more money than Pierre Lewis and Kwik was major mistake.  Not fixing Oline was major mistake.  Trading up for Mitch when you could have had either Mahommes or Watson by just staying at 3 big mistake.  Letting Fangio walk big mistake.  Too many big mistakes by the GM.  The biggest of the them all was bringing in Nagy.

This team does not hustle, does not tackle well.  They do not block, I see laziness all over the field.  Watch Miami to see what a team that plays hard looks like.  Coaching period.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 29, 2020, 08:24:59 pm
Not one but two facemasks missed by the officials on that play.

Not that it will matter but come on!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on November 29, 2020, 08:25:11 pm
That's all I needed to see to call it a night-another Leno penalty.😡
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on November 29, 2020, 08:25:12 pm
Maybe it gets bad enough that Virginia fires pace and Nagy.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 29, 2020, 08:26:15 pm
That is why I am smiling.  Getting plastered by the Packers is about the only thing that gets people fired in Chicago.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BearFan on November 29, 2020, 08:28:19 pm
So sick and tired of this same shirt every season....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 29, 2020, 08:29:50 pm
Only the bears can make the packers offense look good.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on November 29, 2020, 08:31:48 pm
dude, the Packers are averaging over 30 points a game.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 29, 2020, 08:37:32 pm
Makes you wonder why they fade in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on November 29, 2020, 08:49:30 pm
That post from a fan of a team that is below .500 in playoff history.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on November 29, 2020, 08:54:04 pm
That post from a fan of a team that is below .500 in playoff history.

Yes, it is.

Still, packers just never quite good enough even with a halo of fame qb
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on November 29, 2020, 08:55:59 pm
Bears have perfected the marshmallow defense. No pass rush at all. Rushing only 3 is insane.

Fuller seems uninterested, his cushion is a joke. Skrine needs to be replaced. Bears really soft up the middle.

For the 1st time this year I'm calling out the defense.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on November 29, 2020, 09:06:34 pm
NFL making fun of the Bears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xkjsbt2KgE
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 29, 2020, 09:20:17 pm
Trubisky with another INT.  Does he have brain damage?  That was triple coverage!

I just don't even know WTF they are doing.

If I was the owner I would fire Nagy after the game and make him find his own ride home.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on November 29, 2020, 09:20:28 pm
Dude, you want to post about playoff football?


Hell, the Packers have won more games than the bears have played in.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 29, 2020, 09:44:34 pm
Packers 41, Bears 10

"Nailed it!"

"Uh, it's the end of the third quarter..."

"Oh."
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Chris27 on November 29, 2020, 09:54:31 pm
There should be a huge neon sign posted at the entrance of Soldier Field to forever mark the Bears' shame:

We Coulda Had Mahomes.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on November 29, 2020, 09:56:19 pm
Mahomes wouldn't be Mahomes if he had been drafted by the Bears.

Same for Watson.

And Trubisky would be a different player if he had been drafted and developed by a legitimate NFL franchise.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 29, 2020, 10:09:33 pm
Packers D in prevent.  Pretty much the same D the Bears played the whole game.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on November 30, 2020, 12:56:05 am

We just found out the value of Akiem Hicks to this team.  At least Roquan Smith did.  Zero solo tackles (5 assists).

Buster Skrine had a whopping 13 tackles.  He was the target of the Packers offense.  Adams in the slot or a TE running a short pattern - same result.

Trubisky has the same issues.  He is late recognizing his pocket is collapsing and refuses to move off his spot.  He is still horrible with the deep balls.  He had his moments though. 

The new line was actually OK with the exception of Leno.  Ifedi was decent at RT and the 3 interior guys looked OK or the most part. 

Bears need to hit on a lot of draft choices in the coming years.  There will be more holes to fill next year.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on November 30, 2020, 01:14:25 am
Any Bears fan who doesn't realize how important Hicks is to the defense hasn't been paying attention.

Goldman pussing out really hurt the defense this year also.  Although with the state of the offense I don't think it really would have mattered.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on November 30, 2020, 04:51:56 am
If there was ever a time for the Bears to show that they're serious about winning, it would be now. Someone should be fired, immediately...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on November 30, 2020, 05:49:48 am
Well, in my 40-ish years of watching Bear football, this the first time I recall ever NOT watching a live Bears game on purpose and it turns out it was a good choice.... (the not watching the Bears part live part, not that I've not made a good choice if 40-ish years :D)

There is no way George "Mediocre" McCaskey, "Sweaty" Teddy, Ryan "Stop Hitting Yourself" Pace, Matt "Offensive Guru" Nagy, Chuck "Strong" Pagano and the rest of this ship of fools gets even a sniff of a championship. NONE. ZERO. NADA. What a **** show they are....

But the Bears will stand pat as there are going to be a ton of GM/HC combos open after the season (hell, there's 3 now) and they will not want to get into competition with the others. The excuse will be Chinese Flu, Injuries, schedule problems due to the Chinese Flu etc etc. But it will all be excuses....

From the "highlights" I saw TruBUSTky looking the same as before- agile, bad decision making some terrible throws (and some good ones as well). Same ole- same ole. Robinson was pretty good receiving (don't know if there were any loafs or not) and Montgomery showed some stuff as well.

The defense looked **** poor soft. They were picking on Skrine a LOT and he was standing around looking confused a LOT (although he did have a decent long pass break up I think). He's a true weak link in the secondary. Not seeing the whole game, I wonder as he is a nickle guy was the D in more nickel/dime or were the gashing highlights of the Packers running/passong (and there were  A TON) vs nickel/dime only ? I guess I wonder if the D was getting **** slapped only in nickel/dime packages or not. Not that it really matters, deck chairs on the Titanic and all that...

Looking at the bright side, at least there are only a few more weeks of Bear football this season...


Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on November 30, 2020, 07:14:49 am
Bears defense looked like it was playing prevent all game, soft, soft coverage. WTF?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on November 30, 2020, 09:42:22 am
Packers went for it on 4th and 2 late, and the Bears pass defenders were all 8+ yards off the LOS...how is that smart?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on November 30, 2020, 09:46:46 am
Well just to make everyone feel better today.  At least we are not this idiot stuck in the 80's hair parted down the middle wearing mittens to hold a beer in a couzie in sub zero temps.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v434/wmljohn/random/00371884.jpg)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: 46 on November 30, 2020, 09:56:33 am
Thanks. That DID make me feel better. Should be into receeding hairline comeovers by now.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on November 30, 2020, 10:12:13 am
Ah, the good days of watching a winning football team and having actually met Austin.

The song being played at the time....The Bears Still Suck!




I wonder why nobody commented on the Packers winning 100 games against the bear....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on November 30, 2020, 04:29:44 pm
otto was only a 50 year old white guy in that pick, he's pushing 70 now..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: 46 on November 30, 2020, 04:47:55 pm
Death Panels otto, death panels. Your on the radar screen.  For the "betterment" of society. One less white guy, there's lots more where that one came from.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on December 06, 2020, 12:30:58 pm
How did they miss Ragnow holding Trevathan on that 4th down run?!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on December 06, 2020, 12:53:22 pm
Gipson playing...gets 1st career tackle...then Mack sacks Stafford on 3rd down, but a bullshit call on Skrine gives Detroit a 1st down...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on December 06, 2020, 12:58:46 pm
Last time the Bears scored on their 1st 3 possessions?

2018 - week 10
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on December 06, 2020, 01:37:31 pm
All it would take is for Hicks to hurt his hammy and the D will lay down like a rug.  And why oh why hasnt Nagy run Montgomery all year?  Idiot.  When I saw Leno get rolled up on, I was thinking time for him to get off the field, but not to be.  Lets see what the second half holds.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 06, 2020, 02:56:59 pm
LOL!  Bears lose.  Nagy is so fired!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 06, 2020, 03:06:07 pm
Fire him today!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 06, 2020, 03:06:28 pm
Give Pagano the keys for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on December 06, 2020, 03:06:53 pm
Why are they throwing the **** ball when they need to run time off the clock or force the use of time outs?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on December 06, 2020, 03:07:34 pm
I donít care if itís 3rd and 50. Run the clock.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on December 06, 2020, 03:07:36 pm
He really is a historically bad head coach.  The worst in the league right now by a huge margin.  Makes the short list of the worst in NFL history.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 06, 2020, 03:07:42 pm
I can't believe Robinson stepped out of bound before the first down marker.  What an idiot.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on December 06, 2020, 03:09:24 pm
They should have been swept by the Lions this uear honestly.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 06, 2020, 03:12:09 pm
Draft positions gets better and one step closer to getting rid of Nagy.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on December 06, 2020, 03:15:47 pm
Bravo, clap clap clap.  For the love of God, please fire Nagy, asap. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on December 06, 2020, 03:47:56 pm
Leno single handedly sabotages this team. It took Nagy way to long to bench Cowart NOW he's got to face up to the fact that Leno simply has to go.


WTF happened the defense!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on December 06, 2020, 04:28:12 pm
We get the int in their territory and Leno get called for holding to turn a second and one into a second and 11 then a punt. His ass can be cut with Pace, Nagy and Phillips.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on December 06, 2020, 04:29:41 pm
This defense is way over rated. They can be blown up too. Theyíd are like a broken down car where the parts are more valuable then the whole. Sell them for parts.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on December 06, 2020, 07:08:25 pm
I can't believe they lost to the Lions at home... WTF? I'm really glad I'm not watching this pile of garbage..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on December 06, 2020, 07:36:35 pm
Mack AND Quinn both absent from the defensive stat sheet!!!!!

Ryan Nall even recorded a tackle.

This defense sucks.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on December 06, 2020, 07:38:32 pm
This loss is on Pagano as far as Iím concerned.

The offense had an ok running game and pass protection.

There were open receivers and they scored 30 points.

Ultimately the tackles failed us, no surprise.

Pagano severely undestimated what Stafford can do when heís hot.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on December 06, 2020, 07:56:06 pm
Draft Dr. Phil is losing his mind over 4th and 1 and calling a running play from the shotgun. Nagy does this all the time.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on December 06, 2020, 09:47:20 pm
Montgomery ran 11 times in 1st half, only 6 times in 2nd half.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on December 06, 2020, 11:01:29 pm

Hard to blame an offense when they put up 30 points in a game.  But Leno and Ifedi let the team down while offensive tackles for Detroit pretty much kept Mack and Quinn from making big plays.  Not going to slam Mack - he's the ONLY guy applying pressure.  I know Nichols got a sack and a pick, but Hicks, Nichols and the rest of the d-line get stood up up every pass play.  Hicks is still hurt.

Did you see what the Lions defense did on the last possession for the Bears?  They made the Bears dump off to Montgomery for smaller 10 yard chunks that ate clock.  The Bears defense just drops back like robots protecting pieces of turf while the Lions' receivers camp out in huge empty spaces.

I know we need a LT, I know we need a QB, but the Bears need to get another pass rusher.   All 3 positions are the most difficult to fill in the NFL.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on December 06, 2020, 11:21:18 pm

And why is Mooney returning the most important kickoff of the game?  If I'm not mistaken I don't think he's ever returned one in the NFL - maybe not even in college.

I know they wouldn't kick to Patterson but Mooney looked like a guy that never returned a kickoff in the NFL.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 07, 2020, 07:13:54 am
With the Patricia firing, Nawji is the worst coach in the Division (hell even the conference) by a large margin. The only way the Bears would've won this game as if Patricia were still stumping around in the sidelines for the Lions....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on December 13, 2020, 11:39:54 am
Texans 44, Bears 20
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 13, 2020, 11:42:09 am
Is the Texans defense that bad?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on December 13, 2020, 12:04:14 pm
Is the Texans defense that bad?

Late TD in garbage time.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on December 13, 2020, 01:41:42 pm
Where has this team been all year?  I am happy for Mitch.  Now lets see if Nagy can keep from pooping down his leg in the second half.  I was really hoping for a loss, draft pick, and Pace/Nagy getting fired.  My biggest fear right now is they win 3 games, lose the last game to the Pack, and Nagy and Pace get another year.  I forgot how fun it can be for the Bears to score.  And Mack sighting, after 4 weeks off.  About time.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 13, 2020, 02:09:41 pm
Can we get this ref crew when the Bears play Green Bay?  They actually call holding!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on December 13, 2020, 07:19:26 pm
Didn't watch, disgusted with this team and don't care what they did today. TOO little, too late. Ignorant. Fire Nagy so this crap stops. One game does not a season make not by a long shot....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on December 13, 2020, 08:00:59 pm
Had a hard time finding the game. Looks like the Bears found some healthy Olinemen. And the defence stepped up too. Looked like a pro football team. To the best of my recollection we still have to play the Pack and the Queens. That is likely 2 more losses.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 13, 2020, 08:02:48 pm
Don't get excited the Texans have the worst defense in the league.

The Bears would have to win out to even have a 14% chance of getting into the playoffs.  They will not win out. 



Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on December 13, 2020, 08:05:59 pm
Agreed
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on December 13, 2020, 11:06:51 pm

I've seen this story many many times.   Bears need to win out to possibly sneak into the playoffs.  And almost every time they step on their dick and screw it up.

All the focus is on Trubisky's perfomances but the difference today was line play...as it is most every week.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on December 14, 2020, 03:59:39 am
As soon as they benched Cowart the O-Line improved dramatically.

Nagy deserves to be fired just for keeping that slug on the roster.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 14, 2020, 04:38:11 am
I think it was 1979, but the Bears were 3-5, and reeled off 6 straight wins to make the playoffs at 9-5... 14 game schedule.  Then promptly got thrashed by the Cowboys in the first round.  But that team ran off 6 straight wins, it can happen.  The Vikings and the Packers, especially the Packers will be tough games.  GB could be playing for the bye.  I enjoyed yesterday.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 14, 2020, 07:00:11 am
I like to see the Bears win, but I hope this "win" didn't save the Nawji/Pace regime. It would be so Bears like to Lose in the long-term after win.....

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on December 14, 2020, 09:30:43 am
I think it was 1979, but the Bears were 3-5, and reeled off 6 straight wins to make the playoffs at 9-5... 14 game schedule.  Then promptly got thrashed by the Cowboys in the first round.  But that team ran off 6 straight wins, it can happen.  The Vikings and the Packers, especially the Packers will be tough games.  GB could be playing for the bye.  I enjoyed yesterday.


1977
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on December 14, 2020, 09:38:02 am

I remember that game - thirty something to 7...something like that. 

Bob Avellini was our QB then.  He didn't have a good game but I guess the Bears org thought he had a good career cuz they retired his #7.  :)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on December 14, 2020, 04:31:20 pm
Yep, I remember that game. We moved to Virginia by then, I was excited to see the Bears play, especially in a playoff game.. So much for that..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on December 14, 2020, 05:01:32 pm
All-time bear playoff record is 17-19 for a .472 winning percentage.


The Packers are 35-23 for a winning percentage of .603.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on December 14, 2020, 05:19:48 pm

When the Packers win Otto posts on just about every topic but when they lose - he's nowhere to be found.

An early playoff exit for the Pack should keep him quiet during the offseason.



Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on December 14, 2020, 05:23:22 pm
Dude, I post in the politics section everyday regardless of the Packers games.


So, you can just shut it.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on December 14, 2020, 07:28:08 pm
Dude, I post in the politics section everyday regardless of the Packers games.


So, you can just shut it.

Aren't we the lucky one's..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on December 16, 2020, 10:01:00 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD3FY3IyuCM
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on December 17, 2020, 09:51:53 am
Good to see that even with that win Leno still had his usual game. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 17, 2020, 10:24:31 am
To be fair, he did not hold up too well vs Watt (even a dinged up, almost career done JJ) who even in the twilight of his career can still bring it (sometimes) but he did better. Still need to see him replaced ASAP.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: navigator on December 17, 2020, 12:21:19 pm
Iíd rather keep Mitch and Doles and draft the best Oline than spend another high pick at QB.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on December 17, 2020, 04:15:47 pm
O-line should be priority...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 18, 2020, 04:18:33 am
Half the fan base will melt down if that is the scenario.  Trubisky is the most vilified QB I have ever seen.  Thanks social media...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on December 18, 2020, 04:44:08 pm
only an idiot would put a 1st round rookie QB behind this Bear O-line.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on December 18, 2020, 04:46:52 pm
It is really offensive for sure
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on December 19, 2020, 09:07:13 am
So the game tom actually COULD have some meaning.  If the Bears win, they keep their very slim playoff hopes alive, and would need to win out and get some help from the Cards.  If they lose, Nagy should be fired in the locker room.  Then again the only way I see them beating the Pack in the last game is if they rest everyone for the playoffs. 

Should be fun either way, and I still want Pace and Nagy fired either way.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on December 19, 2020, 11:30:17 am
Look no further than our draft choices over the past years. Mack made an immediate impact but since then he's tailed off, and he cost us two first rounders. Honestly, Pace has been terrible. I give him a passing grade in free agency, but he fails miserably in the draft. We need a savvy football guy, not flashy, but savvy.

We need to invest in our two lines (especially the o-line), then go from there. I would hang onto Trubisky and Foles for now and work on the rest of the team. No matter who the QB is at this point, they're not going to do much until the rest of the team is fixed.

God knows, get rid of Nagy...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on December 19, 2020, 11:42:02 am
Also, send Pagano out on the next train. The D has been under performing since his arrival..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 20, 2020, 05:10:51 am
Pagano is not doing this D any favors- he's consistently getting less out of the talent on hand and been outcoached too often. Just a few cases in point are playing too much soft coverage and putting Quinn (although a shell of his former self) into coverage......

Don't care if they make the playoffs. This staff and GM  are fools gold.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on December 20, 2020, 07:46:59 am
I dont give Pace a pass on free agents.  Just this year look at the contracts he gave Jimmy Graham, Foles, and Quinn.  We are stuck with all of these turds for a while.  And dont forget the contract extensions he gave to Massie and Speed Bump Charlie Leno, THE biggest turd on the team.  No Pace needs to see the outside of the door, asap.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 20, 2020, 09:57:53 am
Unfortunately, George McMediocre will probably use the excuse of Chinese Flu, bad luck, or "reasons" just to stand pat. But then again, if he does not, do the fans trust him to make the right call on GM or HC ? Consultants or not, it always comes down to the head......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on December 20, 2020, 11:40:46 am
They'll come out with a statement that Nagy and Pace have been put on notice. Win or be fired. Next season they make a wildcard spot, lose in the first round but it will be good enough to save their jobs, for one more season..

The NFL has become watered down and overpaid. Seems as if the NFL is more concerned about making political statements and political correctness than they are about providing a quality product. NFL needs to fall on hard times for awhile. Maybe then they might understand who pays their salary.. Until that happens, teams like the Bears will continue to field a mediocre product with no sense of urgency.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on December 20, 2020, 12:06:02 pm
Have I ever mentioned that Matt Nagy is a historically bad head coach?

3rd and 1.  Run the ball.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 12:14:25 pm
First series on O failed due to Leno. The big Monty run Leno actually blocked. I mean, he was on someone. You don't see that often at all with him.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 12:46:03 pm
Has the light finally gone on for Tru?? He's playing with some serious confidence and making some great throws and the offense is clicking. Time will tell....he has a lot of bad film to overcome....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 20, 2020, 12:53:25 pm
How the hell can the ref keep them from snapping the ball then call delay of game?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 12:57:52 pm
That delay call was ridiculous. And the TD, Leno got away with a hold....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on December 20, 2020, 01:05:13 pm
Another time out wasted
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on December 20, 2020, 01:06:27 pm
I canít believe the Vikings did that
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 20, 2020, 01:06:42 pm
Inspired D today.

One of the gunners was uncovered.  No one was out there at all for the Bears.

Nagy's TO probably saved them from giving up an easy first down.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on December 20, 2020, 01:08:43 pm
Good call but it shouldnít have been necessary.

Too many rookies playing
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 01:13:16 pm
At least the kicker situation is ironed out. Santos is a good one....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on December 20, 2020, 01:43:07 pm
I would think the Vikings would take more advantage of the inexperienced Vildor and Shelly the second half.

I am impressed though that Cousins has looked left and held the ball a number of times so Vildor must be ok.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 20, 2020, 02:04:01 pm
Montgomery is having a hell of a game!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 02:04:57 pm
Really impressed with Monty!!

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/3o6Zt5ACOjncVOHjPO/200.gif)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on December 20, 2020, 02:05:54 pm
Weíll see if the defense gets off that tranquilizer and makes a stop.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 20, 2020, 02:30:29 pm
That was a terrible call.  The receiver pushed off.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on December 20, 2020, 02:31:53 pm
Yeah, that was a horseshit call on Vildor...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on December 20, 2020, 02:34:31 pm
The defense looks out of shape
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 02:41:13 pm
Hope Tru doesn't resort to his old form and push a ball into the hands of the wrong team on this drive. They need to get a score here.....D isn't stopping the Queens.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 02:45:55 pm
Slow it down, eat some of that clock!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 02:47:23 pm
Yep....old Tru shows up.....stupid throw....
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Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 02:50:00 pm
Vikes have to go for it with 2 remaining. Huge play upcoming.....
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Post by: JeffH on December 20, 2020, 02:52:55 pm
Did Nagy call that play for Minnesota?
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Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 02:53:02 pm
HUGE stop! Now, goofy Nagy, EAT THE CLOCK!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 02:53:42 pm
Please don't go Nagy brain dead and throw it here.......force them to use all TO's and end this thing!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on December 20, 2020, 02:55:44 pm
Brent Urban is the DeAndre Houston Carson of the front 7...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 02:57:42 pm
56 seconds to ending the Queens chances.....D needs to come up big here.....
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Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 02:59:56 pm
Hate games like this.....
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Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 03:06:07 pm
Saw that Vike sitting there and my heart skipped a beat and then Jackson swats it.....otherwise Vikes catch that.... Well, playoff chances still live on and Queens are done.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on December 20, 2020, 03:07:24 pm
And someone, please smack Tru for that ignorant throw! He can't keep doing that if he 'Tru'ly wants to progress....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on December 20, 2020, 03:29:55 pm
And someone, please smack Tru for that ignorant throw! He can't keep doing that if he 'Tru'ly wants to progress....

There shouldnít have been 2 receivers next to each other.

If Holts drifted over there with the defender itís on him.

It may have been an open pass when Tru threw it.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on December 20, 2020, 05:28:32 pm

Why is Holtz out there and why is the ball thrown in his direction?  There was no creativity in the pass patterns - still Mitch should have thrown it away or scrambled to extend the play.

You could see Trubisky throughout the game avoiding risky throws.  He made 2 today and one was costly. 

You hate to see the pick but you like the 33 points and even though Montgomery had a huge day Mitch made some critical throws on 3rd down.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on December 20, 2020, 06:11:30 pm
It seems like the game may be finally slowing down for him a bit...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on December 20, 2020, 06:31:36 pm

Hard to say.

Trubisky hasn't faced top defenses lately.  There's no big names on the Vikes front 4 and their leading tackler Kendricks was out. 

Trubisky looks a lot better with an offensive line that pass blocks and opens holes for the run game.  But the Bears interior 3 are opening up holes that weren't there in October and NOvember.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 21, 2020, 06:47:44 am
FWIW haven't watched the whole game yet, but it appeared that at least 2 of the TDs the D gave up were coverage errors of some sort...

Trubisky CANNOT throw that redzone INT. Can NOT............

Looks like Monty got more rushing attempts today (and the Oline is doing what they were not doing for the last 2/3 of the season). What a concept Nagy... Feed the Hot Hand.....

Still feel its all Fools Gold though.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on December 21, 2020, 08:02:09 am
Anytime the Bears win at Minneapolis, I am an extremely happy man...

But then I think about next year and the salary cap hell, George's hesitation to shake things up, and a quickly aging Mack and defense potentially without Fuller.  Even if the Bears wanted to keep Trubisky with the Tannehill lightbulb on in his head (redzone INT notwithstanding), they can't afford him and he hates Nagy.  So they will be stuck with Foles/rookie/FA.  But hey they got a kicker who kicks ass...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on December 21, 2020, 09:10:09 am
Quote
they can't afford him

What do you think the market for Mitch is going to be?  I believe he will only be receiving back up offers.  Why wouldn't they be able to afford that if they are going to be in the market for a FA backup anyway?  And if that is the case why wouldn't Mitch be interested if he knows there is a very good chance to be a starter?  I could see them working out a very bonus heavy two or three year contract that would be good for both sides.  Good form Mitch if he starts and hits the bonuses.  Good for the team if he doesn't and he is just receiving backup pay.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on December 21, 2020, 09:30:27 am
Best comp I can think of is Mariota (https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-raiders/marcus-mariota-16726/) at 2 yr/$17.6/$7.5 guaranteed.  If Mitch balls out that could be the floor considering his competition in the FA market (https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/quarterback/).  Who's to say there would not be a team that considers him a starter?  Jax spent on Foles, Bears with Glennon, Seattle with Flynn, and so on.  Before this season started, Pace pulled out the credit card and really invested in Foles and Quinn in a win now save his ass mode.  I don't see how they can fit a ton of money into the QB position even if Foles didn't hit his juicy incentives to allow for an early opt out.  We'll see I guess...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on December 21, 2020, 10:01:34 am
And yes I know Glennon was ultimately a smokescreen in Pace's diabolical plan to shock the NFL world.  But 3 yrs/$45/$18 guaranteed is nothing to sneeze at...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on December 21, 2020, 11:40:08 am
Others on the market with him are Cam Newton, Jamis Winston and Phillip Rivers. Not to mention Stafford and Prescott could be had via trades...  I think that keeps his cost down considerably.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davep on December 21, 2020, 02:03:36 pm
Montgomery's game was the first that ever reminded me of Walter Payton at his best.  Now, if he can only do it for ten years.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 21, 2020, 03:58:00 pm
Loved the wood he was laying during his runs but Walter he is not (nor can anyone be). Walter could vault over the line, throw the football and kick fieldgoals ! Damn its been a long time without that........

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on December 21, 2020, 10:44:51 pm
Walter Payton was special and when he took over a game, nothing could stop him. Monty couldn't hold Walters jockstrap. Walter at his best was better than everyone else.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on December 22, 2020, 04:56:10 am
When Walter was great, the rest of the team sucked. When the team got better, Walter was a shell of his former self. Great athlete, great person. Players today could learn a lot...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 22, 2020, 07:40:46 am
I've been thinking about a comp for Monty.  In a Bears uniform, it would be Payton but I can't put him in that class.  His comp overall may be a Maurice Jones Drew?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BearHit on December 22, 2020, 09:05:57 am
Can he do an SNL skit?
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Post by: dallasbear2 on December 22, 2020, 01:28:01 pm
When Walter was great, the rest of the team sucked. When the team got better, Walter was a shell of his former self. Great athlete, great person. Players today could learn a lot...

He never really dropped off production wise until his final year in 1987.  In '85 he had 1551 yards and in '86 1331 - no drop-off in receiving yards either.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 23, 2020, 06:13:20 am
I'd take Walter as a shell of his former self in 84-87 than almost all backs in their prime back then......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 23, 2020, 07:47:11 am
There were a lot of good ones back then.  Dorsett, Dickerson off the top of my head.  Earl Campbell was tailing off by 84, but and awesome back.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on December 23, 2020, 09:17:35 am
who would sign Trubisky to a big contract & consider him a starter?

Pace's trade for Foles is another one in which no other GM would have made. It's a complete albatross.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on December 23, 2020, 12:33:35 pm

Nick Foles is not very mobile and struggles when pressured.  We all know that.  But who's to say that with an improved running game and somewhat better pass blocking that Foles would not succeed too.

Come on, Detroit, Houston and Minnesota are not exactly big time defenses.  So what changed between the first Minnesota game where the offense never got into the end zone and last Sunday's Minnesota game? 

Besides Trubisky replacing Foles, Montgomery was out of the lineup.  And so was Minnesota's leading tackler MLB Kendricks.  Also that first game was one of the last games that Coward started at LG and Ifedi was at RG.  Both have been replaced or moved to a new position.

Another big difference is the play calling.  Trubisky did not just sit back in the pocket like Foles did a month ago with Zimmer overloading a side of the line and generated pressure.

Not advocating starting Foles, but he might still be valuable as a backup next year, but he just might not be a cost effective backup.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on December 23, 2020, 01:25:10 pm
They were so reluctant to play Bars and now that they had to find out heís not bad.  Mustipher too.
 
I also realized Whitehair played 4 years of LT in college but was assumed to be a guard .

Have to wonder how he would do at tackle.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 23, 2020, 03:55:56 pm
Nah. This staff will draft (or Pace will TRADE FOR)  a non-oline player and try to turn him into an Olineman- just to show how smart they are (although Big Cat Williams was a DE if I recall....)
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on December 23, 2020, 05:04:39 pm
The SCORE was having some fun with scenarios of how the Bears could screw up their little playoff chance.

One is they lose to Mike Glennon and the Jags and beat the Packers starters when itís too late.


Or they beat the Jags and lose to the Packers second string.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on December 23, 2020, 05:46:31 pm
Will be at the Jax game this Sunday.  Many of you know I am a Florida resident.  Looking forward to a Bears Win!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 24, 2020, 04:45:37 am
Nick Foles is not very mobile and struggles when pressured.  We all know that.  But who's to say that with an improved running game and somewhat better pass blocking that Foles would not succeed too.

Come on, Detroit, Houston and Minnesota are not exactly big time defenses.  So what changed between the first Minnesota game where the offense never got into the end zone and last Sunday's Minnesota game? 

Besides Trubisky replacing Foles, Montgomery was out of the lineup.  And so was Minnesota's leading tackler MLB Kendricks.  Also that first game was one of the last games that Coward started at LG and Ifedi was at RG.  Both have been replaced or moved to a new position.

Another big difference is the play calling.  Trubisky did not just sit back in the pocket like Foles did a month ago with Zimmer overloading a side of the line and generated pressure.

Not advocating starting Foles, but he might still be valuable as a backup next year, but he just might not be a cost effective backup.

I think Foles is a better back up than Glennon.  If we let Trubisky walk, Foles is not a bridge QB.  He's a back-up.  He can run the offense for a few games until he starts to feel foot steps.  Foles likes to be in shotgun, which I think hurt Montgomery's effectiveness.  Perhaps it also affected the way the line blocked.  foles would beat Rivers in a foot race, maybe, but that is likely the end of that list.  He doesn't threaten or present the possibility of a threat to run the ball.  The defense has to account for Trubisky.  That has opened up the passing game because defenders didn't need to worry about Foles tucking and running.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 24, 2020, 11:00:44 am
I see two very probable distinct possibilities:

1. Bears win playing well then go into the GB game and step on their own dicks....

2. Bears go into playing the Jaguars confident and step on their own dicks.....

Based on recent history, both are the most likely scenarios.......

But if they do win both games (a slim chance IMHO), Cards will not lose one the Bears need them to lose (pretty good odds I think).....

Still think the last few games are fool's gold. Only reason Monty got the number of carries he did was because Patterson got dinged up. Monty would've carried less in the 2nd than he did (just like last time when he played well in the 1st half of a game). Nagy still does not understand personel......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on December 25, 2020, 07:34:56 pm

If the Bears somehow lose to the Jags then a loss to the Pack would be best for draft position preceded by a house cleaning.

I'll be watching the O-line like I always do on offense and with the injuries in the defensive backfield we'll get to see the young DBs.  I've been impressed with rookie Johnson but he's not the most willing tackler. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 26, 2020, 04:34:15 am
After seeing the beclowning of the Vikings defense yesterday by the Alvin Kamara, it does put a bit of perspective on the Monty performance the week before. I don't remember one Saints punt.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on December 26, 2020, 06:28:00 am
That was some performance for sure. And it Hill hadnt run one TD Kamara would have had 7 TDs
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 26, 2020, 06:59:08 am
Payton pulled a Nagy- can't give too many touches :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 26, 2020, 01:12:01 pm
After seeing the beclowning of the Vikings defense yesterday by the Alvin Kamara, it does put a bit of perspective on the Monty performance the week before. I don't remember one Saints punt.....

It does bring to light, how many weapons NO has an offense and a super productive offensive line.  We are not at their skill level.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on December 26, 2020, 02:07:26 pm
Got a late start to the lions game and thought I was watching the Bears somehow. There was Chace Daniel playing the Pack and getting pummeled. Good grief he is terrible.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 27, 2020, 05:46:23 am
Seeing Chase Daniel playing brought back memories of his time as a Bear... not good ones. Its wierd, in the Dolphins game Tua reminded me of the Bears offenses under Lovie for some reason (small gain, every now and then a better gain, then sack, punt). Of course it looked totally different when Fitzpatrick came in (what an ending).......

Here's hoping the Bears pound the Jags but don't hurt Glennon (Don't want Minshew coming in and performing a "Fitzmagic"). It does seem that the Jags want a stranglehold on their #1 pick though, so that's a good sign......

Recent history points to the Bears tripping over themselves to lose this game, so let's see if that trend can be ended.....

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on December 27, 2020, 08:05:01 am
It looked like Robbie Gould tried to lose it for the Bears yesterday.  WTF got into him with all the misses and the Bears season on the line?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on December 27, 2020, 09:03:42 am
Bearssse 38-13.  Bearse romp.  I hope the Packers have something to play for or just play their starters out of spite.  I dont want a mediocre team sneaking into an expanded playoff to save Pace and Nagy.  I want the bears to have to earn it against the packers, even if it means they dont make it.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on December 27, 2020, 12:09:40 pm
Jaguars 18, Bears 17
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Post by: octagon on December 27, 2020, 01:00:44 pm
I just can't understand how this pass rush is so inconsistent.   

The Eddie Jackson contract is looking like a big mistake.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on December 27, 2020, 01:19:30 pm
Trubisky is ****.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 27, 2020, 01:19:48 pm
WTF Trubisky?

They are going to lose just like I said. 

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Post by: davebear on December 27, 2020, 01:20:12 pm
Classic 2020 Bears game.
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Post by: boogie on December 27, 2020, 01:31:41 pm
Jags are the 32nd rank run d, and what does ahole Nagy call?  All pass plays.  Fooking moron, when they lose I hope they fire Nagy in the locker room and he has to take a bus back to Chicago.  So much for Lazor calling plays, you can see Nagy all over this. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 27, 2020, 01:44:11 pm
Nagy is calling the plays.  They just showed him with his play card calling them.

Why would he take back play calling when it was going so well the last three or four games?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 27, 2020, 01:45:45 pm
Now let's see if the defense can shut them down here in the second half.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on December 27, 2020, 01:48:48 pm
Yeah that one yard and a cloud of dust run game isnít working out so well.

(between the tackles)

The short passing is the only thing working.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 27, 2020, 02:01:30 pm
The problem with Nagy calling the plays is that he puts Trubisky in bad situations where he throws those dumb interceptions.

Lazor protected him with the playcalling.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on December 27, 2020, 02:07:16 pm
Whatís disappointing about the interception is Mitch bought a lot of time to decide what he was going to do
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 27, 2020, 02:10:30 pm
He should have just ran with it or thrown it away.  It was a terrible decision and even a worse throw.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 27, 2020, 02:12:57 pm
Bears rolling now on both sides of the ball.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on December 27, 2020, 02:38:45 pm
Can't see the game being on CBS. Not buying their monthly crap and not on Sling...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on December 27, 2020, 08:28:31 pm

Odd game.  Bears and Trubisky in a no win situation.  I think everybody was expecting a 50-0 victory.

Defense early on seem uninterested.  Bears need Jaylon Johnson back next week.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: hibernationsuxs on December 27, 2020, 08:35:33 pm
Was at the Jax game today.  Bears fans were at least 50% of crowd if not 60-65%. 

One big complaint I had today.  Why oh why was Montgomery in the game with 8 minutes left and a 30+ point lead.

They gave hime 3 up the middle runs where he got pounded.  **** Nagy get the man out of the game.  Monty gets hurt... season over.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on December 27, 2020, 08:40:15 pm
Was Nagy really back to calling plays today?  That 1st and goal from the 1/2 yard line call was BULLSH1T!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on December 27, 2020, 08:57:37 pm
I can't be 100% certain with the mask but it sure looked like it.  He had the mic in front of his mouth and was carrying and looking at his play card.

Not sure why he would even have one if he isn't calling plays.


Also the way he was strutting around while the offense was on the field reminded me of the way he was when calling the plays.  He had a different demeanor when the defense was on the field.   





Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on December 27, 2020, 09:30:44 pm
That 1st and goal from the 1/2 yard line call was certainly a let's get pretty call that he would run instead of just giving it to Montgomery.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on December 27, 2020, 09:31:48 pm
Was at the Jax game today.  Bears fans were at least 50% of crowd if not 60-65%. 

One big complaint I had today.  Why oh why was Montgomery in the game with 8 minutes left and a 30+ point lead.

They gave hime 3 up the middle runs where he got pounded.  **** Nagy get the man out of the game.  Monty gets hurt... season over.

Montgomery was close to a 1000 yards rushing season is my guess.  He ended up with 1001.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 28, 2020, 04:49:28 am
Bearssse 38-13.  Bearse romp.  I hope the Packers have something to play for or just play their starters out of spite.  I dont want a mediocre team sneaking into an expanded playoff to save Pace and Nagy.  I want the bears to have to earn it against the packers, even if it means they dont make it.

Got your wish...  Here we go!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 28, 2020, 06:26:06 am
From the little I saw of the game (won't watch the whole until later in t week) IMHO

The Jags tried so HARD to give the Bears the game but they would not take it in the 1st half. Hell, that INT before the half for the 3 points (that at least they should've gotten instead of that DREADFUL patented Trubisky head scratching interception) was kind of a "Sorry ! We didn't mean to intercept that ball". They  got the message in the second half and rolled over nicely though.....

Nice that Smith got the 2 ints. Not nice that he almost gave both of them back (gotta teach the man some ball security)....

Monty getting respect. Good to see.....

No faith in the Bears -especially if Nagy back to calling the plays (which from appeareances in the first half seems to be). Pagano can't seem to motivate the D (man does less with more anyone else). But they saved their jobs today and after a token reshuffle of Teddy "promotion" out the door, George McMediocre will stand pat regardless of what happens next week.

Mediocrity, thy name is BEARS.....

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on December 28, 2020, 07:29:03 am
Regardless, Pagano has to go..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on December 28, 2020, 07:45:30 am
Pagano must go at the least.  I would still fire Pace and Nagy, unless they prove they can beat the Pack, which we pretty much all know is not happening.  It will be like Maserati Mitch will be driving a Pinto and Erin Rogers will be driving a Ferrari.  And if the bums on D slack off in the game when the whole season is on the line, clean house.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: VJ on December 28, 2020, 07:45:57 am
ďThat play really looked good all week in practice,Ē coach Matt Nagy said. ďEverybody probably knew that that was coming. We all felt it. They jumped offside and then they ended up giving a different look. Credit to them. If thereís a play where we all look back Ö you get the ball at the 1-yard line and come across with three points, that oneís one that you look back at it. But our guys rebounded. They came back from that.Ē

I haven't been as pissed about a cutie pie call since Martz called that Earl Bennett reverse on 3rd and short in the NFC championship game...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 28, 2020, 09:34:07 am
I wonder if the Mack and Hicks injuries are more serious?  It does seem they are getting little push.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on December 28, 2020, 09:36:03 am
ďThat play really looked good all week in practice,Ē coach Matt Nagy said. ďEverybody probably knew that that was coming. We all felt it. They jumped offside and then they ended up giving a different look. Credit to them. If thereís a play where we all look back Ö you get the ball at the 1-yard line and come across with three points, that oneís one that you look back at it. But our guys rebounded. They came back from that.Ē

I haven't been as pissed about a cutie pie call since Martz called that Earl Bennett reverse on 3rd and short in the NFC championship game...

It was an awful call even if it worked.  You want to get cute down there, put Nichols and Hicks in there is a loaded backfield and hand off to Monty.  We need to pound the ball there.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on December 28, 2020, 10:01:46 am
I wonder if the Mack and Hicks injuries are more serious?  It does seem they are getting little push.

You stole my morning thunder.  I was going to ask the same exact question.

I guess the same could be asked about Quinn.

I know we've been talking drafting a LT or QB but I'm thinking we have to address the pass rush too.  Goldman returning next year should help out the run defense.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on December 28, 2020, 11:17:55 am
And Nawji & company are here for the foreseeable future. That man never learns.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on December 28, 2020, 12:37:11 pm
Mack is on the injury report every week.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on January 03, 2021, 03:35:05 pm
Refs count


Bears 1

Packers 0



Patterson touched before he was out
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 03:41:30 pm
TD BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on January 03, 2021, 03:57:29 pm
Why the **** is Duke Shelley covering Davante Adams on 4th down?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 03:58:51 pm
Because Pagano sucks!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 04:06:50 pm
BEARS BALL!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 04:10:16 pm
10-7 Bears.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 04:10:56 pm
7-3 Cardinals.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 03, 2021, 04:17:51 pm
Youíre not going to fool Rogers with that defensive play

Heís going to spot the LB coverage on a WR all day.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 04:18:17 pm
Pagano is an idiot.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 04:18:56 pm
No DC has done less with more.  If no one else gets fired after this season he better be gone.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 04:22:27 pm
He was down.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on January 03, 2021, 04:23:16 pm
Not against GB he isnít.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 03, 2021, 04:23:45 pm
Enough to reverse the call is the question
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 04:25:08 pm
Bullshit.  He was down.  It really wasn't that close once they showed the correct angle.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on January 03, 2021, 04:26:03 pm
Itís Green Bay.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 04:28:19 pm
That was delay of game. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on January 03, 2021, 04:29:18 pm
No. Itís Green Bay. Itís called a time out.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 04:29:36 pm
No the play before.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on January 03, 2021, 04:29:45 pm
Way to go GB refs on a terrible turnover call.😡😡
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 04:32:04 pm
Do the Bears defenders realize it is their job to defend the receivers?  WTF?

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on January 03, 2021, 04:33:32 pm
That's game. Three defenders standing there while a guys wide open. 😡😡😡
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on January 03, 2021, 04:34:55 pm
Arizonaís playoff chances were never in doubt.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 03, 2021, 04:35:41 pm
Rogers eating them alive as usual.
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Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 04:37:18 pm
Pretty much how I expected it to go.  They aren't getting any pass rush and we are down 2 starting DB's and now Smith. 

No chance.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 03, 2021, 04:39:14 pm
Nagy so far wonít challenge them with passes downfield.

Now the Packers are sitting on the short throws

If Trubisky is your starter youíre going to have to let him play pretty soon
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on January 03, 2021, 04:52:30 pm
Pack commit a neutral zone infraction, and Trubisky throws a damn 2 yard check down...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 04:56:06 pm
That was fumbled...
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Post by: Chris27 on January 03, 2021, 04:57:05 pm
Rogers on a halftime pace to go 20-20 for 310 yards and 6 TD's.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 04:58:44 pm
The Packers have scored a TD on every drive.  The only thing that stopped them was their punt returner fumbling.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 03, 2021, 05:18:47 pm
Seriously Tru.
3 passes short of the end zone inside the 10?


3 field goals in the red zone today
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 03, 2021, 05:29:38 pm
Enough of the 4 yard passes torch these guys.

The Packers fell asleep take advantage!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 05:42:20 pm
Rams up 18-7 in the 4th.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on January 03, 2021, 05:51:08 pm
There is a Nagy special. Been pounding the ball all day long and he passes it b
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 03, 2021, 06:01:16 pm
Again and again linebackers covering wide receivers.
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Post by: wmljohn on January 03, 2021, 06:02:33 pm
Totally out coached. .
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Post by: JeffH on January 03, 2021, 06:05:08 pm
Totally out coached. .

By definition.
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Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 06:11:15 pm
It looks like they are still going to back into the playoffs.

Rams are beating the Cardinals 18-7 have the ball and time is running down.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 06:12:10 pm
Has any DC ever done less with the talent Pagano has on defense?

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 03, 2021, 06:14:41 pm
Looks like theyíll back into the playoffs with an Arizona loss.


The only team less deserving is whoever wins the NFC East.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 06:14:54 pm
We know we have a RB, a kicker and a young TE that should develop into a really good player.

Sick of these ridiculous losses to the Packers. 

I bet no one gets fired since they "made" the play offs.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 03, 2021, 06:21:31 pm
Word is with loss of revenue theyíll be less inclined to eat the contracts.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on January 03, 2021, 06:38:38 pm
What a cluster.😡😡 8-8 and in the playoffs and totally undeserving of it
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 06:55:55 pm
I really can't say enough about Montgomery and how hard he has been running the last few weeks.  I was sick to my stomach when it looked like he tore up his knee.  Glad he was ok.

Also what does that say about Nagy and how little and badly he utilized him for most of the season.
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Post by: WshflThinking on January 03, 2021, 07:05:46 pm
Looks like theyíll back into the playoffs with an Arizona loss.

They did. Play Brees and the Saints
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on January 03, 2021, 07:08:05 pm
Beat N.O. And there is a rematch with GB. We can hope.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on January 03, 2021, 07:17:53 pm
First game I watched this season. Couldn't resist a game with the pack. First thing I would do at the end of the season is fire Pagano. My bet is Pace and Nagy are going nowhere... I would also bet that Trubisky is back. I would hope that Mitch comes back rather than see Pace pull some stupid as$ trade and not have 1st round picks again.

Montgomery is a player. The rookie receiver had a good game. Tight end had a good game. We just got out classed by one of (if not the best) teams in the NFL. There's no doubt GB is the best in the NFC..

At least it seems as if Nagy is utilizing the run more. That in itself is an improvement..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dogstoothe on January 03, 2021, 07:19:50 pm
Game on Saturday, no Kamara, even if heís clean he canít come back Ďtill Sunday.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 07:23:14 pm
I like the Bears chances if we can get some people back from injury.

Brees has been dinking and dunking worse then Trubisky. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 07:24:50 pm
First game I watched this season. Couldn't resist a game with the pack. First thing I would do at the end of the season is fire Pagano. My bet is Pace and Nagy are going nowhere... I would also bet that Trubisky is back. I would hope that Mitch comes back rather than see Pace pull some stupid as$ trade and not have 1st round picks again.

Montgomery is a player. The rookie receiver had a good game. Tight end had a good game. We just got out classed by one of (if not the best) teams in the NFL. There's no doubt GB is the best in the NFC..

At least it seems as if Nagy is utilizing the run more. That in itself is an improvement..

I forgot to mention Mooney.  He has been making plays all year and really has come on in the last half of the season.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 07:27:12 pm
I wish Trubisky could be a more accurate deep ball thrower.  He never throws the receiver open.  They always have to adjust to the ball.

If you look at the top QB's Brady, Rodgers and Mahomes they throw it out to the open spot with some arc and the receiver runs to it.  With Trubisky they have to make a circus catch to have a shot more often then not.

This is the one thing Foles did well.  If you took the best of both QB's and mixed them you would actually have a good QB.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 03, 2021, 07:28:21 pm
This also tends to lead to our receivers jumping to make the catch.  Which keeps them from running after the catch.  It also can lead to injuries as they tend to get hit in the air and/or land awkwardly.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 03, 2021, 07:30:39 pm
They couldnít run until UDFAís Mustipher and Bars were put into the lineup.

Whoever insisted on playing Coward the last 2 years was very wrong and set the offense back.

I guess cudos to Juan Castillo for getting those guys up to speed. 

Montgomery isnít any different than his first game.  He just has some holes.

Title: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on January 03, 2021, 07:48:24 pm
Iím done with Trubisky. He canít throw, and he makes **** poor decisions.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on January 03, 2021, 08:00:54 pm
why do the Bears have a MLB covering a WR?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on January 03, 2021, 08:10:18 pm
Game on Saturday, no Kamara, even if heís clean he canít come back Ďtill Sunday.

Game is scheduled for Sunday.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on January 03, 2021, 08:33:23 pm
Heres a gas for you:

https://sports.yahoo.com/jets-finally-end-the-miserable-adam-gase-era-fire-coach-after-his-second-losing-season-with-team-020729572.html

Wasnt he supposed to be the  real deal when he left the Bears for Miami?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on January 03, 2021, 11:11:18 pm
Big play of the day was not converting on 4th down in the 4th quarter when it was 21 - 16. Terrible play call on 4th and less than one.

Duke Shelly still sucks.

Poor tackling on the defense. Bears need a backup MLB.

I reviewed the highlights & it seems to me Kmet was on his butt when he fumbled. Another big play.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BearHit on January 04, 2021, 06:46:27 am
I wish Trubisky could be a more accurate deep ball thrower.  He never throws the receiver open.  They always have to adjust to the ball.

If you look at the top QB's Brady, Rodgers and Mahomes they throw it out to the open spot with some arc and the receiver runs to it.  With Trubisky they have to make a circus catch to have a shot more often then not.

This is the one thing Foles did well.  If you took the best of both QB's and mixed them you would actually have a good QB.

Kurt Warner talked about that before on NFLN - said Josh McCown had to teach him to "Throw the receivers' open" in Arizona.
Warner was spoiled with the receivers in St Louis always getting separation when he was there
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on January 04, 2021, 06:47:38 am
They were going to get their butts kicked either way. Not sure the Cards did the Bears a favor as now it will probably be two weeks in a row that the Bears will get their butts kicked .....

But since Nagy was coming back anyway (unfortunately), what the hell, why not get another playoff shot ? You never know if You can almost set your watch by the fact this Bears team will find a way to make it interesting at least (if frustrating to watch).....

At least lets hope Pagano gets shown the door (as a token at least).....

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on January 04, 2021, 07:27:55 am
Our receivers can get separation...Trubisky just canít put the ball where it needs to be.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on January 04, 2021, 08:06:43 am
Was pleasantly surprised the Bears didn't lose like Miami did today against Buffalo. Buffalo took the 1st few drives off then said "WTF are we doing" and put themselves into overdrive. Nagy would never do that in-game and if it is  true that he's getting involved in play calling again (there were a few calls that were vintage Nagy) the clown show is going to continue, unfortunately....

Nagy.  "Be you". Well you suck at playcalling. But he is too ignorant/arrogant to understand that obvious point, as the small success he had in the 1st year with the "oompa loompa" etc etc somehow convinced him he's a good playcaller....

Sorry to be so down since the Bears are going to the playoffs anyway (as Homer Simpson said "the best 2 words in the English language De Fault") but there does not seem much light at the end of the tunnel atm.......

One more week of relevance (of sorts) for the Bears.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BearHit on January 04, 2021, 08:16:46 am
They have to play with zero mistakes - no penalties - no turnovers to even be competitive against good teams like Saints and Packers

And they need some stick-um on their hands
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on January 04, 2021, 08:26:41 am
Nothing from this coaching staff confirms that they can get the players to play mistake free football (or even close). Recievers still leave their feet for some strange reason at inappropriate times instead of trying to run through the catch, Trunisky still has terribly inconsistent footwork/mechanics and the as the topper, the D can't even get turnovers that are gifted to them. Something is wrong in Denmark.... and fish stinks from its head on down :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on January 04, 2021, 09:32:04 am
Ok I called it that Rogers was going to feast on Trevethan covering, and he did.  Eddie Jackson did nothing, Akiem the dream Hicks, did nothing.  Quinn got close, ONE TIME.  Didnt really see Mack do much.  Nichols and Jenkins did nothing.  And when Roquan went out, that was it.  Our D is not trying or buying into the program.  Pagano MUST go, no matter what, unless they win the superbowl, and do it with D. 

Mitch making head scratching decisions again, didnt see much from ARob, and once again, a TE does nothing against his former team, see Graham,J. 

Ideally I would like to see Ted Phillips on down get shown the door.  Get a new GM, let him decide about the coaches, hint hint, get rid of all of them.  Do NOT let Pace hand out any big contracts or make a first round draft pick.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on January 04, 2021, 09:41:00 am
Offensively, the Bears for the most part played ultra conservative.  Run, bootleg left, bootleg right.  It moves the ball between the 20s as long as you can complete 80% of your passes.  They showed a stat of Trubisky's QB rating for balls beyond 10 yards in the air.   This is probably why Nagy rarely left Trubisky in the pocket throwing the ball downfield.  I don't know what's going on in the red zone.  The announcers mentioned once that Graham wasn't even in there early on.  Packers gave them the short stuff figuring the Bears would step on their dick eventually or if they did reach the red zone - settle for a field goal.

The O-line did OK keeping the pass rushers off Trubisky.  Montgomery fought hard but couldn't break any runs past 8 yards.  3.1 Y/C.

Defensively, Bears don't have anybody with speed to play man on man.  Fuller plays with a cushion and breaks on the pass.  Shelly is Skrine II - small and slow.   Bears have to play soft coverages.   Jaylon Johnson may be their only true cover guy.

I still think Bears need to look at QB or OT in the draft but the team needs man on man cover DBs too.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on January 04, 2021, 09:44:35 am
So we get the Saints on Sunday.  A smart QB like Brees, all he needs to do is find out who Trevethan in covering and throw there.  And feed Kamara.  We are going to get spanked two weeks in a row.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on January 04, 2021, 09:50:43 am
Ok I called it that Rogers was going to feast on Trevethan covering, and he did.  Eddie Jackson did nothing, Akiem the dream Hicks, did nothing.  Quinn got close, ONE TIME.  Didnt really see Mack do much.  Nichols and Jenkins did nothing.  And when Roquan went out, that was it.  Our D is not trying or buying into the program.  Pagano MUST go, no matter what, unless they win the superbowl, and do it with D. 

Mitch making head scratching decisions again, didnt see much from ARob, and once again, a TE does nothing against his former team, see Graham,J. 

Ideally I would like to see Ted Phillips on down get shown the door.  Get a new GM, let him decide about the coaches, hint hint, get rid of all of them.  Do NOT let Pace hand out any big contracts or make a first round draft pick.....

Did the Packers ask their linebackers to cover Bears wide receivers?   Why is Woods even in there on passing downs?  He hasn't played a lick of LBer all season. 

Bears had more pressure than last time.  Had 1 sack and one holding call.  A few QB hits on Rodgers.  But pass rush has been a problem pretty much all season.  Rodgers seems to find an open receiver a split second before pressure arrives.   A team that can bring it is the only team that can beat the Packers now.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 04, 2021, 11:14:09 am
The play I canít forget is 4th down when itís 23-16.

After converting fourth earlier with a qb sneak they line up in shotgun.

???  That tells the defense they can back off.  No keeping them off balance.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on January 04, 2021, 11:31:30 am
The Matt Nagy special???  Did you see he had the call sheet in his hands, he was calling plays again.  He needs to go.  Period.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on January 04, 2021, 11:38:43 am
The play I canít forget is 4th down when itís 23-16.

After converting fourth earlier with a qb sneak they line up in shotgun.

???  That tells the defense they can back off.  No keeping them off balance.

Pretty sure it was 21-16. I take the points (although ultimately it didn't matter), that would make it 21-19. Why would you line up in shotgun? That was a time consuming drive, come away with some points.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on January 04, 2021, 11:52:32 am

How many 4th downs had they completed prior to the last one?  4 for 4   A full yard is a lot on a QB sneak.  I was expecting some sort of option play.

This game somewhat reminds me of the Philly playoff game where Nagy again was conservative in play calling until that last drive leading up to the  infamous kick.

Bottom line - Nagy does not trust Trubisky.  Remember how everyone was bubbling how they could open up the playbook when Foles took over.   We can do back shoulder throws now!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: 46 on January 04, 2021, 12:14:24 pm
fire his ass now. that 4th and 1 play reeked of his smell.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 04, 2021, 02:01:09 pm
Itís a shame really how the game went.

They had a good offensive game plan holding the ball with the time consuming drives.

Converted 4 fourth downs in a row.

They ran 30 more offensive plays.  Just have no clue what to do in the red zone.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on January 04, 2021, 02:12:27 pm
Trevathan needs upgraded. We need more speed at LB and he ain't it.
 
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why do the Bears have a MLB covering a WR? 
They think they still have Urlacher flying around back there.  ::)

All these rollouts with Trubisquit...the line cannot hold its blocks for long so to get him time they get him out of the pocket and divide the field so he can figure out the D easier....
IOW, we need a better line and smarter QB....

The pass rush is non existent for a team PREDICATED on pass rush and built for it.....i.e. get rid of Pagano. And Pace needs to build with what the team needs at this point and that's line help, a QB, a LB, corner, wideout and more line help....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on January 04, 2021, 02:47:36 pm

I rag on Trevathan too but he's not a WLB - he's an ILB.  He shouldn't be out there on passing downs.  In addition to JJ and Skrine, Deon Bush was out too.  He was the guy that should have been in there.

You may be right about the roll outs hiding the deficiencies of our line and Trubisky finding and delivering 10+ yard passes.   Can the Bears get by with Ifedi or Massie at RT for another year or are there cap issues with keeping both?
Or maybe draft a tackle in round 1 or 2 and start him out at RT and give Leno another year then move the rookie to RT.

So Bears need upgrades on O-line, edge, QB, WR and DB.   We actually have some draft picks this year - but not enough to fill all those holes.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on January 04, 2021, 02:50:54 pm
For the love of God, anybody but Leno at LT next year.  ANYBODY

And you know what they SHOULD do in the red zone?  How about throwing up a jump ball to one of our two 6'6" TEs, neither of which were in the game at that time.  The smartest man alive couldnt get Graham a jump ball in the end zone.  Um, good bye.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on January 04, 2021, 04:21:39 pm

They finally found Graham at the end of the game...well, almost.   I thought he was in...but nobody cared at that point.

As for replacing Leno with ANYBODY the Bears have NOBODY.  Spriggs and Ifedit were signed to 1 year deals I bet. 

How about Coward?  He's still got a contact!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 04, 2021, 04:42:02 pm
Bears are $2mil over the salary cap next year BEFORE resigning any of their own FA.

If Foles takes his option to walk they have no QB under contract for starters.

The only good thing is most other teams have the same problem.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on January 04, 2021, 05:57:46 pm
Lovin the bear playoff football talk guys.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 04, 2021, 06:44:53 pm
Lovin the bear playoff football talk guys.

What playoff talk?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on January 04, 2021, 07:26:55 pm
Point scored!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on January 04, 2021, 08:14:02 pm
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Lovin the bear playoff football talk guys.
 
We know the score....this team is not a playoff team the way they're playing. They're a 8-8 stuck in the mediocre crud team that got lucky thanks to the Cards flopping. They probably get blown out this weekend and end the fallacy of the playoff team.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: otto105 on January 05, 2021, 06:28:32 pm
Hey, last Super Bowl win for the Packers was as a 6 seed.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on January 05, 2021, 11:47:55 pm
We don't have a HOF QB..... we've got a guy who has to have half the field removed for him to read the D who isn't accurate downfield and is playing behind one of the worst lines in football. Foles has playoff experience but is a pocket passer and would die behind this line....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on January 07, 2021, 10:56:36 am

Part of me is happy that I get to see the Bears play football this weekend and that they made the playoffs.  Another part of me feels that they don't belong in the playoffs and hoping they don't get embarrassed.

Next week I get to do what I've been doing for the past 20 years around this time - root for any team that is playing the Packers.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on January 07, 2021, 12:51:58 pm
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Next week I get to do what I've been doing for the past 20 years around this time - root for any team that is playing the Packers.

We can only hope it is the Bears.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on January 08, 2021, 03:21:37 am
So the Bears game is on a kids network this weekend, Nickelodean. A kids network. Kids. Slime, green slime. Spongebob. Playoff Football and Spongebob and Patrick.

Get the Net!  ::)

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/4Ya8UtZz4PEuk/200.gif) 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on January 08, 2021, 06:27:37 am
Kind of appropriate considering the Bozo the clown they've got as HC :D


Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on January 08, 2021, 07:33:20 am
ESPNU is replaying the OleMiss/Alabama game from this season right now...there are lots of great draft prospects in this game, and it was a great game to watch...just fyi...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on January 08, 2021, 09:15:24 am
Kind of appropriate considering the Bozo the clown they've got as HC :D

Would be better on CNN. Thats clown central
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on January 08, 2021, 09:22:50 am
https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/chicago-bears-new-orleans-saints-20210110018/

ON CBS..........Chicago Bears Site??????
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on January 08, 2021, 09:43:10 am
Or See BS :D
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on January 08, 2021, 10:33:31 am
It is also an Amazon Prime game and Nickelodeon game.  They are trying to attract younger fans and think this is a way to do it.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: WshflThinking on January 08, 2021, 11:23:40 am
I see the hospital ship has landed in Lake Forest. Doesnt look promising for the game. Especially since Pagano says Kamara is public enemy#1. And our secondary isnt healthy either
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on January 08, 2021, 04:13:21 pm
This is the type of game the Bears win or get totally blown out of the water......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on January 08, 2021, 04:27:43 pm
31-13 Saints.  A good saints D shuts down our offense.  The shot bears D rolls over once down by two scores. 

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on January 08, 2021, 05:46:34 pm

You are probably right.  But it could be a game if we get Smith, JJ and Mooney back.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 08, 2021, 06:30:36 pm
Was it 2010 Bears beat the Saints in Soldier with Lovie?

A great day, with Urlacher leading the defense
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on January 08, 2021, 10:50:45 pm
Smith, Mooney and Johnson not being ruled out today is good news.  Would be nice to have at least two of them. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on January 09, 2021, 01:55:20 am
Don't know how the pull it off without Smith or Mooney....come to think of it not sure how they pull it off WITH Smith and Mooney....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on January 09, 2021, 07:32:32 am
Hope for the best... prepare for the worst..... Only good thing that would come from a butt-whooping would be at least some change (at least to Pagano), but then with George McMediocre, who knows ?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on January 09, 2021, 03:39:56 pm
Smith and Mooney are both out...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 09, 2021, 09:06:57 pm
I saw that.  Not good.  I give them maybe a 30% chance tomorrow.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on January 10, 2021, 06:34:17 am
I'd say it went from 30% to pretty close to absolute zero.......

Let the offseason talk begin !
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on January 10, 2021, 07:18:04 am
My guess is either we get blown out like 55-10 or we score some points but the D craaps down its leg and lets the Saints do whatever they want and we lose, say 35-30.  With two of our best players out, one on each side of the ball and Nagy calling the plays, I am thinking it is going to be the first.  Just like Cubs fans say, there is always next year.  Sigh.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on January 10, 2021, 08:21:59 am
Well at least we get to look forward to the same clown-car coaching staff back next year. YAY !

George McMediocre won't fire a "winning" HC and barely average GM after falling into the post-season. At best there will be a re-arranging the deck chairs of the SS BearTanic with some token "firing by retiring" or somesuch.

Never been so down on the Bears and their future as now. Please prove me wrong McMediocre. PLEASE !
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on January 10, 2021, 10:35:37 am
Well you have to figure no matter what Pagano is gone.  That alone will be an improvement.  But yeah, I am super down on the Bears right now too.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on January 10, 2021, 03:01:15 pm
Saints 48, Bears 20

Game not as close as the score would suggest.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on January 10, 2021, 03:10:54 pm
Smith and Mooney are both out...

Johnson, too.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: wmljohn on January 10, 2021, 03:11:33 pm
Wow. This is the Bears first road playoff game since 1994.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dogstoothe on January 10, 2021, 03:12:25 pm
Man, you never know though. Brees can be off, the whole rhythm can be off. Helps Saints to be in Dome, more comfortable there.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on January 10, 2021, 04:01:18 pm
This defense is horrible!!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:02:27 pm
Vanilla zone every down.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:03:23 pm
Missing two starting DB's and Smith I knew it was going to be bad.  They have no answer when the offense spreads them out.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:07:28 pm
Challenge it.  That was a catch.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:09:01 pm
He had 4 feet in bounds.  One was down when he caught it. He took a step then drug the toe.

They better not **** this one up.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:11:42 pm
Wims WTF?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on January 10, 2021, 04:12:10 pm
You've got to be kidding
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:12:36 pm
Perfect pass and he drops it.  Why do our receivers always jump when they don't have to?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Chris27 on January 10, 2021, 04:17:59 pm
Trubisky's first real professional pass in four years and they drop it.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:26:38 pm
What was the ruling on the field?  Whatever that was should stand.  Not enough evidence to overturn either way imo.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 10, 2021, 04:28:43 pm
I think it was ruled a catch.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:29:33 pm
Overturned...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:30:02 pm
Bears need luck to win this game and they aren't getting any but bad.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:30:37 pm
Missed the FG. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:33:06 pm
And of course three and out when they finally have good field position.  Pathetic.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:33:50 pm
D has been on the field all day.  They will really start to wilt soon.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 10, 2021, 04:34:33 pm
This offense needs to get going.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:36:59 pm
Finally a TO!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:41:00 pm
WTF?  Terrible call!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:41:37 pm
How do they make that call in a playoff game?  WTF?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on January 10, 2021, 04:42:24 pm
WTF kind of a call was that?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 10, 2021, 04:42:33 pm
Unbelievable.

All he did was put his hand on his shoulder.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 10, 2021, 04:44:02 pm
For the first time this year Iím saying these refs suck.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:49:47 pm
D playing inspired right now!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 10, 2021, 04:53:57 pm
Leno is actually playing pretty well
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 04:55:56 pm
That should be an incomplete pass. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 05:01:32 pm
Why are our DB's bailing out past the first down marker? 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 10, 2021, 05:04:09 pm
Getting decent pass protection.
Coach has to have plays to get the receivers open.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on January 10, 2021, 05:10:25 pm
Ryan Nall?  LOL

Nagy's just trolling us now.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 10, 2021, 05:24:05 pm
I agree with coach Cowher,  youíre 10 point underdogs give your offense a chance and throw downfield.

Nagy is playing it close to the vest hoping for a couple of big plays late.

We have the players and offense we have.  Cut it loose and let the athletes win or lose.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 05:36:42 pm
Miller is an idiot. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on January 10, 2021, 05:37:57 pm
A roster lacking in talent, unprepared and undisciplined led by the worst coaching staff in the league.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 10, 2021, 05:39:00 pm
Stupid stupid stupid.

Miller was baited by the same Saints DB who got Wims ejected last time they played.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 10, 2021, 05:56:48 pm
OMFG why more of the same.

Tru should be getting some first downs running.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on January 10, 2021, 05:58:04 pm
Well, it's going about as expected. Bears in it for a second and then it opens up and now the Saints will open it even further. Just STUPID play calling, again. 14-3, 21-3, 21-6,24-6, 24-9, 31-9 final score......
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 05:59:54 pm
Well they kept it close for a half.    Saints adjust bears don't.

Plus the D is wearing down since the O has been going 3 and out all day.

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 10, 2021, 06:05:26 pm
Yeah Iím surprised the D played this well.  Certainly well enough to win.

The O just canít find anything.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 06:06:14 pm
They miss Mooney.  His deep threat opens up Robinson.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 06:06:48 pm
Why haven't we thrown to the TE's though?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 06:08:42 pm
How do you miss those tackles and allow the first down?  Geez.  Pathetic.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 06:12:14 pm
They weren't coming back from14-3.  They sure as hell aren't coming back from 21-3.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 10, 2021, 06:21:07 pm
Yeah letís run the ball!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 06:22:50 pm
I don't understand the play calling this entire game other then the one drive where Wims drops it.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: JeffH on January 10, 2021, 06:29:29 pm
The head coach is the worst in the NFL by a wide margin. One of the worst in the history of the league. What were you expecting?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on January 10, 2021, 06:31:53 pm
I turned it off. Got enough issues to deal with this year than the fricking ignorant Bears. Are they at 31-9 yet??.....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 06:33:37 pm
About to be 28-3.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Chris27 on January 10, 2021, 06:39:01 pm
True or false: Tom Brady could put up more yards in a playoff game at 60 than Trubisky ever will?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 10, 2021, 06:39:25 pm
He didnít get it.

Kudos to the Dfor not quitting
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: octagon on January 10, 2021, 06:48:36 pm
I hope that meek performance is enough to inspire a house cleaning at halas hall.  Coming back with these same guys next season will be a wasted year.  Old and slow doesn't rebound.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 06:50:08 pm
Holding the Saints to 21 is actually a pretty good job by the D.  Especially with the offense shitting the bed all game long.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 06:51:11 pm
21-9 is your final.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Dave23 on January 10, 2021, 06:52:10 pm
Nice of Graham to show up in the 60th minute...
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Chris27 on January 10, 2021, 06:53:01 pm
Nice stat padding Mitch.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dogstoothe on January 10, 2021, 07:29:35 pm
That was a hotdog play by Graham.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on January 10, 2021, 07:31:09 pm
WTF? I am glad I haven't watched this garbage all season. There was a period through the game the D was playing pretty well. The fukking O sucks as$. At times the Oline was holding it's own. The petty stupid fukking mistakes... I was a little disappointed that Montgomery couldn't take it outside when they were stacked up in the middle. The play calling was horrid!!! They have one trick play that finally works and they can't catch the perfectly thrown ball, in the fukking end zone.. What a waste of a Sunday afternoon..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on January 10, 2021, 09:36:34 pm

Same old story for the Bears offense as its been for most of my life as a Bear fan. 

Inconsistent QB?  Wide receivers who can't get separation?  O-line that can't pass block or open holes?  Ultra conservative/non-creative play calling? 

You can fire the coaches but can you fire all the players?
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on January 10, 2021, 09:49:04 pm

And what's up with Cole Kmet?  Cole is a rookie with a so-so rookie season.

In the last Packer game he's mixing it up with the Packer defenders after his first catch.  Then today he catches a 1 yard pass and instead of just handing the ball to the ref and heading back to the huddle he feels he has to respond to the Saint's trying to bait him.  Result:  Bears lose 15 yards in the red zone in a playoff game.

Then Miller, who knows what #22 for the Saints is all about,  does about the EXACT same thing that Wims did in the prior Saints game.

You'd think the coaches would have worked on that this week. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Sportster on January 10, 2021, 09:51:32 pm
They didn't even utilize Kmet for what, the entire first half of the season or more???
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 10:34:23 pm
Kmet didn't do anything wrong.  He patted the guy on the shoulder then tossed the ball to the ref.  My guess is the ref thought he threw the ball at the other player.


He seemed as confused about it as the rest of us.  That was a huge penalty and it was total utter bullshit!

Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Pekin on January 10, 2021, 10:36:30 pm
Yes it is obvious #22 talks a lot of sh9it and gets under their skin.  WTF?  You are grown ass men.

Are they not smart enough to know they are wearing protective gear so you can't beat them up?  all they can do is get a penalty.  Let your play do the talking.

Miller is a dipshit.  Just let him go as soon as his rookie deal is up.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: chifaninva on January 11, 2021, 04:50:27 am
The Kmet penalty was total sh!t!! I wondered if he didn't say something that pis$ed the ref off..
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on January 11, 2021, 05:49:33 am
The fact that the refs were terrible does not mean the Bears would have won with better reffing... I liken it to NFL beating a retarded child with a stick with the way the refs (especially this crew) have treated the Bears this season...

The fact that the coaching "staph" waits until the last drive of the game to target Jimmy G at all is just indicative of what is wrong with them....

They can't coach... can't correct fundamental errors... have no feeling for personnel or situation... other than that they are outstanding.....

If this performance (pretty much the whole season should have been enough to bury this "staph" in any sane world) isn't enough to convince George McMediocre they've got go, then what's it going to take ?

Bears fans deserve better. Much better. Unfortunately we're stuck with this dreck for the foreseeable future......
 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BearHit on January 11, 2021, 08:43:40 am
I expected the refs to make bad calls against the Saints - like they have the past few years
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: BillSharp on January 11, 2021, 09:10:21 am
players toss the ball to the refs in every game, anyone who blames Kmet for that ridiculous penalty is insane.

Bears had 140 total yards before the final drive.

Bears had a total of 48 yds rushing. THAT'S A JOKE.

Aren't we lucky we have an offensive genius as head coach!
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: boogie on January 11, 2021, 09:34:47 am
Eddie Jackson has done nothing all year.  Not sure if it is the coaching or he is trying not to get hurt.  And why did we not target Graham in the endzone until the last minute of the game?  Are we affraid of the TE playing against his former team curse we have had for ages???
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on January 11, 2021, 09:54:40 am

Kmet's toss of the ball seemed harmless - was that the reason for the penalty?   Has local Chicago media discussed this?

It did seem odd a guy would get a taunting penalty after a one yard catch.

As for Graham - deja vu.  Bears ignored Graham in the red zone against the Packers too....until the last play of the game.  This time Trubisky threw the ball into the end zone.

As for the poor rushing totals against the Saints - this is what Foles and Nagy's playcalling had to deal with when they faced 4 top 10 defenses.   Then Trubisky and Lazor take over and all of a sudden the offense was transformed.

Same offense except for inserting Bars for Coward and moving Ifedi to tackle.  But the big difference was facing bottom tier defenses in Minnesota, Jacksonville and Houston.  You saw what happened against better defenses in Green Bay and New Orleans.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Grizzlybear34 on January 11, 2021, 10:09:03 am
Montgomery has shown, he runs better when the QB is under center.  We also went back to a lot of shotgun running plays. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: Bears4Ever on January 11, 2021, 10:19:51 am
Nagy gonna Nagy and the Bears are stuck with him for the foreseeable future....
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davep on January 11, 2021, 04:37:50 pm
The Bears lost quite simply because they played a better team.

The race is not always to the swiftest, nor the battle to the strongest.  But that's the way to bet them.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on January 11, 2021, 05:49:12 pm

No doubt, the Saints are the better team, especially on offense where they are loaded.  I'd like to see our #11 used like they used their #11.

But I was proud of our defense, for the most part.  Offense needs some help and it will start on the line. 
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: davebear on January 11, 2021, 05:55:02 pm
Yeah Brees didnít have to play a great game with the running game they had.

Mitch had it all on his shoulders.  Not a very good combination.

No word so far on any firings.
Title: Re: Today's Game 2020
Post by: dallasbear2 on January 11, 2021, 06:18:06 pm

The Saints run game was not that much of a factor...Kamara got a lot of his yardage late in the game - Bears run D did OK with the 3 men in the middle.

Brees' just picks up 3rd downs so consistently, even when you get pressure he knows when/where to get rid of the ball.

Bears had no chance if Mitch has to carry the team.