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Re: 2012 Chicago Bears
« Reply #480 on: February 08, 2012, 02:39:01 pm »
Hester stays.  Wouldn't deal him at all.  THAT would be a big mistake.
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Re: 2012 Chicago Bears
« Reply #481 on: February 08, 2012, 02:44:55 pm »
And I'm definitely not in favor of dealing Hester either, but I'm just saying if you're really gonna go all-in to make a major move up in the 1st round, that's the caliber of player it would take.
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« Reply #482 on: February 08, 2012, 03:34:02 pm »
People are finally starting to talk about Johnny Knox' prospects for this season and what I'm hearing ain't good.

I'm thinking more and more that we're gonna be in the market for 2 WRs this offseason, not just one.  Which pretty much means we'll have to address that position in both the FA market and a premium round of the draft if we're gonna get two guys that can come in and contribute from Day One.   OL and the defense are gonna have to take a backseat if and when it's determined that Knox can't go this season.  Sucks to say but that's the way it's looking.

Nice depth, Angelo.
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Re: 2012 Chicago Bears
« Reply #483 on: February 08, 2012, 03:45:30 pm »
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-bears-hire-tim-holt-as-offensive-line-coach-20120208,0,4521282.story

Bet you'll never guess what team he worked for last...

What I get from the article is that this hire is a young guy who is basically gonna be Tice's caddy while Tice continues to spend time on the OL.  But that's pretty much what I expected.  Normally, I'd want a guy with a lot more experience for this critical position, but Tice has worked so hard with these guys up till now that in this case, I think it's better they bring in someone that will just keep the momentum going vs. a veteran OL coach who would want to come in and blow everything up again.

And actually, if we have to take someone off the Bucs hands this is probably the best guy cause the OL was about the only part of that Bucs team that looked decent last year. 
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Re: 2012 Chicago Bears
« Reply #484 on: February 08, 2012, 04:31:18 pm »
Quote from: yapper on February 08, 2012, 03:34:02 pm
People are finally starting to talk about Johnny Knox' prospects for this season and what I'm hearing ain't good.

I'm thinking more and more that we're gonna be in the market for 2 WRs this offseason, not just one.  Which pretty much means we'll have to address that position in both the FA market and a premium round of the draft if we're gonna get two guys that can come in and contribute from Day One.   OL and the defense are gonna have to take a backseat if and when it's determined that Knox can't go this season.  Sucks to say but that's the way it's looking.

Nice depth, Angelo.

That really scares me. I think Knox is done. If it were me I'd retire and start a family in a hurry.  And I agree we are going to need 2 WRs. And I dont believe we are going to give up 2 #3's for Brandon Marshall. A third this year and a third next year I might do but we cant afford to give up this years draft and half of next years draft for players. We cant afford that. We arent the Pats with all those extra picks because we've wasted picks in the past.
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« Reply #485 on: February 08, 2012, 04:37:16 pm »
We can absorb Knox' loss as a kick returner cause the new kickoff rules have pretty much taken KRs out of the equation.

His role as a field stretcher will be harder to replace.  Either we'll have to keep using Hester on certain plays in that capacity, or we'll have to draft a burner or sign one in FA.

The past few years our offense has overemphasized speed at WRs at the expense of size...  but you don't want to swing the pendulum totally in the other direction either. Even if we are going to a WCO-type scheme with Tice, someone's got to be able to keep those DB's honest or else you can't get things done over the middle and your ground game gets plugged up too. 
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« Reply #486 on: February 08, 2012, 04:42:27 pm »
IMHO they are going to have to spend some money in FA. Knox and Williams are gone. Thats 2 right there. If you could get Marshall or Bowe for a 3rd rounder, I'd jump on it.
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« Reply #487 on: February 08, 2012, 04:47:00 pm »
I'm starting to see some mock drafts with us taking Kendall Wright. If Knox hadn't gotten hurt then it would be ludicrous for the Bears to draft a 5'10 WR in any round, much less the 1st.  But if Knox is finished then picking up a guy like Wright makes more sense.  But then we'd still have to get the big WR in FA.

We did fine between the 20s last year but our red zone offense was despicable. A guy like Wright isn't gonna do you much good there, that's where you need the 6'3 225-lb stud with a 40-inch vertical and great hands.
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Re: 2012 Chicago Bears
« Reply #488 on: February 08, 2012, 07:08:07 pm »
What are you hearing about Knox, Yapper?  Career-over rumors?
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« Reply #489 on: February 08, 2012, 07:24:33 pm »
I am hearing he may not play this season.  He says he will not come back until he is 100% plus he had some vertebrae in his back fused. 

My guess is even if he comes back he will never be the same.  Might as well retire.  Just my opinion.  I don;t know how a receiver can play the game if they have part of their back fused.  I mean shit he is a terrible route runner now.

I guess he still would be able to run real fast down field.
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Re: 2012 Chicago Bears
« Reply #490 on: February 08, 2012, 07:29:19 pm »
Johnny Knox faces long road to recovery from back injury
Bears receiver Johnny Knox cracked a facet joint in his spinal column when he was bent backward awkwardly during a December game against the Seahawks, and when initial reports said he would need 3-...
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The latest information I have seen.  I don't think anyone really knows.  But I think the first reports were BS.  His career is in danger and if I were him I would seriously consider hanging it up.  However I would first make sure the Bears payed all my medical bills and my entire contract.  Meaning you don't retire until the contract runs out or the Bears cut you and you get an injury settlement.
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Re: 2012 Chicago Bears
« Reply #491 on: February 08, 2012, 07:36:14 pm »
I have never been a big fan of creating holes to fill.  I don't like the idea of trading Briggs or Hester.  A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
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Re: 2012 Chicago Bears
« Reply #492 on: February 09, 2012, 05:19:51 am »
Trading a strength, had the same thought.  You don't miss Hester until he is gone...

I do kind of follow Sporty on the Briggs statement, but kind of the same principle of breaking something that works.  I think I under value Briggs, don't know why...
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Re: 2012 Chicago Bears
« Reply #493 on: February 09, 2012, 08:05:19 am »
Here we go...

Vincent Jackson expected to hit open market
The Chargers would have to pay Vincent Jackson a lot of money to use the franchise tag on him -- more than $13 million.
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Get this done, Emery. Cutler has waited too long already.
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« Reply #494 on: February 09, 2012, 08:11:52 am »
The latest information I have seen.  I don't think anyone really knows.  But I think the first reports were BS. 

The Bears are notorious for this.  Remember Carimi?  By initial reports he was supposed to be back in 4 weeks.  Then next thing you know it's surgery and the IR.

His career is in danger and if I were him I would seriously consider hanging it up.  However I would first make sure the Bears payed all my medical bills and my entire contract.  Meaning you don't retire until the contract runs out or the Bears cut you and you get an injury settlement.

The Bears are also well known for screwing players over in situations like this.  Presumably his agent will be looking out for him but those guys don't always have the legal background to know when something fishy is going on. Knox is on a 5th-round rookie contract so he's not exactly dripping with cash, but it would definitely be in his best interests to hire some professional legal counsel to keep an eye on everything.
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