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Re: 2013 NFL Draft
« Reply #705 on: March 16, 2013, 10:09:08 pm »

 You know if Roach hadnt fuuucked us ... the first two picks would be about OL.

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« Reply #706 on: March 17, 2013, 04:51:48 am »
  In response to my trade scenario with S.F. I did not list our own picks which may make the deal look a little sweeter. Remember we'd only be giving up our #20 selection and in return gaining 10 or so extra picks. S.F's picks are in ( )
 I know this is merely a fantasy scenario,but,it demonstrates how we could conceivably change the outcome of the draft.
 2nd round   -    #50   (#61)

 3rd             -    (#74) (#93)

 4th             -     #114   (#125)

 5th             -    #145     (#149)  (#156)

 6th round   -   #177      (#169)  (#188)

 7th             -     (#208)  (#219)

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Re: 2013 NFL Draft
« Reply #707 on: March 17, 2013, 05:59:15 am »
I am not interested in dealing with SF for any pick not higher than our 2nd round pick. They have other picks they have acquired that are higher than 61. If they wont include one of those then they are out. Find a different partner. Dropping down from #20 to #61 is ridiculous. That's where the strength of the draft is.

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« Reply #708 on: March 17, 2013, 07:23:17 am »
While that might be a great way to stock some players on the team, only Ditka would be crazy enough to trade all his picks for just one. 

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Re: 2013 NFL Draft
« Reply #709 on: March 18, 2013, 11:59:29 pm »

 Shiiit changes ... now we have D.J. Moore talking to outsiders ...

 Centers falling into later rounds because of people stepping up elsewhere in the draft.

 Alec Ogaltree a confirmed psycho vato loco with upside ... who could be had at #20 for LB.

 Roach fuuucked us ... we can still get a Center after LB.

 Look at the way the numbers are falling .

 

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Re: 2013 NFL Draft
« Reply #710 on: March 19, 2013, 08:19:29 am »
http://www.gbnreport.com/2013projection.html

Has us taking Fluker in the 1st and Teo in the 2nd.  Thoughts?

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« Reply #711 on: March 19, 2013, 08:29:31 am »
That would be interesting but seeing how slow Teo was at the combine I wonder if he's the type of guy who can't physically develop past the college level.

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« Reply #712 on: March 19, 2013, 08:41:57 am »
Te'o is maxed out.  He couldn't hang with the big boys of college (Bama) so how is he ever gonna be an impact player in the pro's?

He'll be a career backup and special teamer.  Best case, a fringe starter at ILB in a 3-4 and you can get those guys in the 3rd-4th round. Any GM who takes him higher than that is gonna wind up looking really foolish.
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Re: 2013 NFL Draft
« Reply #713 on: March 19, 2013, 09:26:48 am »
We need some cheap depth at CB.  All we have is Frey backing them up and he is unproven.  If one of them gets hurt, we could be seriously up sh&t creek without a paddle.  I think our 4th rounder would be a great place to take a raw CB who could come in and learn from two veterans that take their job seriously.

We actually do have some depth with Bowman signed (he was a starter a couple years back).  Sherrick McManus is also a corner but more of a special teamer at this point.  And I would expect the Bears will be bringing back Kelvin Hayden.  And there's Frey.  But I think a 4th rounder on a CB could happen.

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Re: 2013 NFL Draft
« Reply #714 on: March 19, 2013, 09:29:23 am »

As for Te'o - he needs a solid 40 time at his pro day.  4.8 plus in the forty is too slow.

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« Reply #715 on: March 19, 2013, 09:33:28 am »
Emery is on record as really liking the CB depth in this year's draft class.  And he spent two of our draft picks last year at the position (three if you count Hardin).  So yeah another CB at some point in this year's draft wouldn't surprise me.  CB is not a Tier 1 need this year but Tillman isn't getting any younger and with Jennings' size the odds would be on him having a shorter shelf life in the league than a bigger bodied CB.

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« Reply #716 on: March 19, 2013, 09:36:21 am »
As for Te'o - he needs a solid 40 time at his pro day.  4.8 plus in the forty is too slow.

I'm actually surprised Ogletree hasn't gotten dinged more for his 40 time at the combine 40.  IIRC he was in the mid 4.6's which for a 6'2 242 LB isn't anything special.  It certainly calls into question the "elite" athleticism that has been attributed to him so often.
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Re: 2013 NFL Draft
« Reply #717 on: March 19, 2013, 09:54:00 am »
Yes its surprising. He needs a much better 40 time if he wants 1st round money. He needs to show up at his pro day

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Re: 2013 NFL Draft
« Reply #718 on: March 19, 2013, 10:14:52 am »
Track speed and football speed are two totally different things. Ogletree never looked slow on Saturdays...at least not to me...

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Re: 2013 NFL Draft
« Reply #719 on: March 19, 2013, 10:20:36 am »
One thing I think a lot of us are forgetting (at least I do) is how over-the-top Urlacher's physical skills were coming out of college. Here was a guy almost as big as some of the DEs playing at that time, running as fast or faster than most safeties.  The size/speed combo he brought to the table was just ridiculous and is still pretty rarely seen even this many years later.

To apply the standards of Urlacher to this year's LB class really isn't fair because freaks like him don't come along every year. And hopefully Tucker realizes that and tailors the D to what our new LB(s) can do instead of assuming we'll have the equivalent of a 3rd-year Urlacher in there.  Because we won't. 

Ogletree may turn into a very good NFL player or he may be a total bust.  That is an assessment Emery is being well-paid to make and act accordingly. But anyone who thinks he will be the next Urlacher is in for disappointment.
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