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« Reply #3075 on: January 12, 2026, 07:21:28 pm »
I'm sorry.  I did know he attended the Charlie Kirk memorial service.  It just never occurred to me that anyone would consider a memorial service for someone who was assassinated for his political beliefs to be a "political Rally".

Some things are more important than games.  Even professional games.  I remember when Sandy Koufax was strongly criticized for refusing to pitch in the World series on Yom Kippur.  I thought that was an honorable thing to do, although since I was not Jewish, it meant nothing to me personally.

If Bregman has a problem with that, that is HIS problem.

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« Reply #3076 on: January 12, 2026, 07:32:29 pm »
The "memorial service" was a political rally at a stadium with 50,000 true believers.

He also spoke at a "Turning Point" event where he shared the lectern with literal nazis.
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« Reply #3077 on: January 12, 2026, 07:49:44 pm »
I have been back and forth on this but I am clearly leaning toward they will keep Nico (unless there is an offer that blows them away) because of the uncertainty of trying to experiment this year and they will get a draft pick with a qualifying offer?  I suspect Counsel will be sitting down with Shaw this weekend and bringing an outfield glove.  If Bregman is worried about sharing an infield with Shaw he did not do his homework on most of the rest of the Cub's infield :)
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« Reply #3078 on: January 12, 2026, 07:58:56 pm »
I agree in principle, Jimmer. You should be all in on 2026 with most of the core FAs after this season, and trading away arguably your best player makes no sense unless you're absolutely blown away. But on the off chance you are - Cam Schlitter, for example - I do think you have to at least consider it.

Trading Shaw, OTOH, makes sense from a baseball standpoint if he still has a lot of value after his so-so rookie season. As for the rest of the Cubs infield, well - Hoerner did list Obama as one of his dream golf foursome.

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« Reply #3079 on: January 12, 2026, 08:00:47 pm »
The "memorial service" was a political rally at a stadium with 50,000 true believers.

He also spoke at a "Turning Point" event where he shared the lectern with literal nazis.

Public figures sometimes have huge public turnouts. See Dr. King’s funeral, Muhammad Ali, Michael Jackson, various Popes, etc. People want to pay respects to those they admire, even if you or I have a different point of view.

That does not turn a memorial service into a “political rally” even though you personally don’t care for the person. That was the forum that the family chose for their memorial.  We should defer to the family.

Perhaps we can flip the narrative and try to be respectful for a change? (hoping in vain, probably).

As to the “Turning Point” event, it is my understanding that was not a baseball forum. Doubtful that Alex Bregman will give a hoot about that in the Cubs clubhouse.



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« Reply #3080 on: January 12, 2026, 09:00:06 pm »
I’m not making political judgment one way or the other.

Shaw spoke at a whatever Kirk’s wife’s rally was and allowed his picture to be used to promote it.  He’s political.
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« Reply #3081 on: January 12, 2026, 09:17:44 pm »
The "memorial service" was a political rally at a stadium with 50,000 true believers.

He also spoke at a "Turning Point" event where he shared the lectern with literal nazis.

Your comments reveal more about you than about Matt Shaw.
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« Reply #3082 on: January 12, 2026, 09:19:27 pm »
There's a time when one needs to say "Enough."  We have such divisiveness in this country that it's insane to be signing or trading people because of their political beliefs.  If a player on any team begins to cause disunity on a team, yes, get rid of him, but just having those beliefs is insufficient cause.  What's next?  Getting rid of black players?  Christians?  Hispanic players?  Non-religious?  Time to stop before it's hard to root for anyone.

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« Reply #3083 on: January 12, 2026, 09:19:47 pm »
 Hoerner did list Obama as one of his dream golf foursome.
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That's why I said most!:)
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« Reply #3084 on: January 12, 2026, 09:22:45 pm »
Also, the reason I suspect Hoerner will be traded as opposed to Shaw is simply he is a free agent, may want to play SS and the Cubs can't trade Smith, Caissie and Shaw within 12 months!

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« Reply #3085 on: January 12, 2026, 09:29:47 pm »
Also, the reason I suspect Hoerner will be traded as opposed to Shaw is simply he is a free agent, may want to play SS and the Cubs can't trade Smith, Caissie and Shaw within 12 months!

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« Reply #3086 on: January 12, 2026, 09:48:44 pm »
I have been back and forth on this but I am clearly leaning toward they will keep Nico (unless there is an offer that blows them away) because of the uncertainty of trying to experiment this year and they will get a draft pick with a qualifying offer?  I suspect Counsel will be sitting down with Shaw this weekend and bringing an outfield glove.  If Bregman is worried about sharing an infield with Shaw he did not do his homework on most of the rest of the Cub's infield

Just to clarify, I DID NOT comment with "Wow" on this post. At least I certainly did not intend to do so. This has happened a couple of times where a reaction was shown by me that I never intneded. I blame Curt.   :)
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« Reply #3087 on: January 12, 2026, 09:54:31 pm »
I have been back and forth on this but I am clearly leaning toward they will keep Nico (unless there is an offer that blows them away) because of the uncertainty of trying to experiment this year and they will get a draft pick with a qualifying offer?  I suspect Counsel will be sitting down with Shaw this weekend and bringing an outfield glove.  If Bregman is worried about sharing an infield with Shaw he did not do his homework on most of the rest of the Cub's infield :)

I don't think anyone has said that Bregman is worried about sharing an infield with Shaw, by the way. The fact that he comes from a liberal Democratic family does not suggest that. There may or may not be an issue with Shaw's very public expression of his right wing politics with one or more members of the team, but none of us has any insight into that. I assume that other players woiuld not let that get in the way unless Shaw makes it an issue in some way.

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« Reply #3088 on: January 12, 2026, 09:57:28 pm »
Also, the reason I suspect Hoerner will be traded as opposed to Shaw is simply he is a free agent, may want to play SS and the Cubs can't trade Smith, Caissie and Shaw within 12 months!

I think trading Hoerner would create a much larger outcry than trading Shaw.
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« Reply #3089 on: January 12, 2026, 09:58:53 pm »
I think trading Hoerner would create a much larger outcry than trading Shaw.

I think that Ron is a master of understatement.