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« Reply #2985 on: January 09, 2026, 03:59:53 pm »
If there's a team out there that wants to pay high on Nico after a career year, really hard not to listen, IMO. If you project his 2026 season at 4 WAR, taken against his salary of $11.67M, that's ~$25M of surplus value, which is, I believe, the surplus value of a top-50 prospect-type.

Bichette slots in so well at 2B. Sure, MI defense takes a hit vs Nico, but you still get a "SS" at 2B, and a Suzuki-lvl hitter (by wRC+), too.

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« Reply #2986 on: January 09, 2026, 04:24:11 pm »
Defense at 2B is crucially important.  It would be a huge mistake to substitute Bichette for Nico there IMO.
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« Reply #2987 on: January 10, 2026, 10:16:19 am »
I respectfully disagree on several of the recent posts. 
1.  Bichette will not be Hoerner/Shaw-caliber at either 2B or 3B.  But don't presume he can't play either 2B or 3B at a good level or a world-series level.  He was the regular SS for a world-series team this season, has been entrusted with >700 starts at SS.  I expect he'll adapt to 3B or 2B and won't be a "huge mistake" problem at either position. 

2. What are they saving it for?  They went thrifty on relief to save money, for a purpose.  They went thrifty on rotation, to save money for a purpose.  They were 20th in scoring after all-star break.  Hoyer stated that he likes to use chunks on starters, and that he has money to assemble a strong team.  So I remain convinced that there is budget space and team willingness/desire to sign one of the four bats. 

3.  Some of the posts have suggested that Shaw is so good defensively, and he had a solid 2nd-half with some HR's, what's the point in adding Bichette or Bregman?  Bichette would reduce the defense relative to Shaw, do we really want that?  Bregman might require years such that by end of deal, he won't be great value, do we want to risk a non-great-value contract in 2030?  Other posts have suggested that Bellinger isn't that hot outside of NY, and if you added Bellinger, would you want to use Seiya as DH, and take away Moises' chance to DH?  So it seems posters are kinda suggesting don't bother with the four remaining bats, just go with what we've got and brush up with a utility IF and OF.  I strongly disagree....

4.  **Go get one of the four bats.**  My preference is Tucker > Bichette > Bregman > Bellinger.  But I think any of those four would help and would fit great.  To have spent all off-season pinching pennies and "saving it up" for one of those guys, only to say "Nah, stick with what we've got" would be a failed plan and a super disappointing offseason.  If you aren't going to sign one of the bats, then they should have kept Caissie's power bat.  If they aren't going to sign one of the bats, then there would have been plenty of $$ to retain Keller or sign one of the pricy relievers.  To pinch pennies on relief, to trade Caissie and pinch pennies on rotation, all of that only makes sense if the $$ you were saving in process gets applied to a semi-big bat.  (Not like Bregman, Bichette, or Bellinger are real "power bats" or "big bats" or whatever, but all should be asset bats and all would hit at least some HR's.).

5.  Acquiring 3B does not and should not necessitate trading Hoerner (or Shaw).  Keep all three.  Use your $$ to try to win now and into the future. 

6.  Every year, "subs" who are not primary starters get lots of AB.  Past season was one of the healthiest, worst-bench, starters-playing-every-day seasons in recent memory.  But there were still ~800 PA for non-starters.  Most years, it's way, way higher than that.  Point being, *IF* you acquire Bo/Breg and Shaw is bench, there are a LOT of AB's available.  DH, 3B, 2B, SS-indirect, perhaps 1B?  Not like Shaw is wasted and will never get AB.  *IF* he hits like a guy you'd have liked as a primary starter, he'll have access to large numbers of AB.  Not wasted at all. 


6bThe same relates to "trade Hoerner to make room for Shaw".  Keep them both, and have some depth for a rare change! 

7.  Same goes if you sign Tucker or Bellinger.  Yes, that will definitely cut into Moises AB.  But if it was hypothetically Bellinger signed, then injury or rest for any of Busch, Bellinger, Seiya, PCA, or Happ could be AB's taken by Moises.  Wouldn't it be nice to be able to rest a guy, or a dinged guy, without the lineup falling apart?  *IF* Moises shows he can hit, his potential to be first lineup-replacement for any of four positions plus DH gives him a lot of opportunity to help the team win the division. 

Sign one of the bats! 
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« Reply #2988 on: January 10, 2026, 11:52:26 am »
One rumor out there is Hoyer may be waiting for the market on Eugenio Suarez to tank low enough to swoop in.  Just reporting.

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« Reply #2989 on: January 10, 2026, 01:10:16 pm »
Agree with Craig that the hand-wringing over Bichette’s 3B (and especially 2B) defense is misplaced.
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« Reply #2990 on: January 10, 2026, 05:33:55 pm »
One rumor out there is Hoyer may be waiting for the market on Eugenio Suarez to tank low enough to swoop in.  Just reporting.

I saw that as well. It wouldn’t be my first choice (or second or third).

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« Reply #2991 on: January 10, 2026, 05:44:30 pm »
I'd take Suarez for two years over Bregman for five any day of the week.
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« Reply #2992 on: January 10, 2026, 05:56:40 pm »
Suarez could well be the back up plan if miss out on primary target(s).

Batted .189 for M’s after trade deadline deal.

Primarily a DH with Cubs.

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« Reply #2993 on: January 10, 2026, 07:14:26 pm »
Wouldn't it be funny to give a guy away and then end up spending big money to get him back?  Very Cublike.

Sources: Yankees' negotiations with Cody Bellinger at an impasse

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« Reply #2994 on: January 10, 2026, 09:49:00 pm »
Sounds like we got Bregman according to Heyman.

Rumor that it was a big overpay 5/$175.

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« Reply #2995 on: January 10, 2026, 09:53:49 pm »
Ugh. Just add two years and give that to Bichette instead.
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« Reply #2996 on: January 10, 2026, 10:01:08 pm »
I truly don't understand what Hoyer is thinking. He won't go out of his comfort zone for a 28 year old star like Tucker. Or any other star player for the last 6 years.

But for good-not-great 32 year old Bregman? Sure, why not?

If the Cubs are really lucky, this deal doesn't look like a disaster until the third year.
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« Reply #2997 on: January 10, 2026, 10:05:59 pm »
Ugh. Just add two years and give that to Bichette instead.

I'm absolutely mystified by this organization. I can only assume the Bregman thing boils down to a massive man-crush.

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« Reply #2998 on: January 10, 2026, 10:07:06 pm »
What's Shaw's trade value, I wonder? Maybe you can get a good long-term piece for him. Would much rather re-sign Nico.
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« Reply #2999 on: January 10, 2026, 10:14:04 pm »
What's Shaw's trade value, I wonder? Maybe you can get a good long-term piece for him. Would much rather re-sign Nico.

Sadly that would require Nico to have a bad year because the Cubs won’t re-sign him if he has another big year (even with some contracts coming off the books).