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« Reply #6451 on: January 15, 2026, 11:48:50 am »
Hey, I don't remember if we have any posters/lurkers in the Minneapolis area, but if we do, just want to say I hope you're ok.

What's happening to your city and community is wrong, and it breaks my heart on multiple levels. And I'm far removed from it all. Cannot imagine what it is like living in the midst of a hostile federal occupation. 

Hope you and your loved ones stay safe and strong.
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« Reply #6452 on: January 16, 2026, 08:42:38 am »
Hey, I don't remember if we have any Federal Agents/lurkers or law enforcement officers in the Minneapolis area, but if we do, just want to say I hope you're ok.

What's happening to your ability to do your jopbs is wrong, and it breaks my heart on multiple levels. And I'm far removed from it all. Cannot imagine what it is like trying to work amongst all the illegal and dangerous activites in the midst of the hostile civil unrest.

Hope you and your loved ones stay safe and strong.
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« Reply #6453 on: January 16, 2026, 02:34:01 pm »
I certainly value the role of law enforcement and sympathize with the predicament that individual good actors face in this moment. But let's be honest:

ICE is deploying thousands of individuals over and against MN state wishes and intentionally fomenting chaos and fear.

They are doing so by flooding the zone with new recruits, many of whom do not pass background checks, fitness requirements, open book exams, etc. They are appealing to these new recruits with actual Nazi propaganda (images, symbology, language, etc.) via social media, and then rushing these unqualified individuals into extremely delicate and explosive contexts, armed to the teeth and given the promise of absolute immunity.

Anyone with any experience in law enforcement or the armed services can see plainly that so many ICE agents are behaving recklessly at best, antagonistically at worst, and with deadly force. So much so that shootings and killings to date in Minneapolis are overwhelmingly driven by ICE agents. Neighborhoods are being teargassed. Schools are shutting down. Flashbangs thrown into the vehicles of citizens simply trying to move out of harm's way, the harm caused by ICE agents in otherwise peaceful neighborhoods.

The administration has been caught in lie after lie after lie about these altercations, the circumstances that preceded them, and how they are handled after the fact. The "we're just after the bad guys" is clearly a ruse as they round up children, pregnant women, and hard working individuals left and right. Including many US citizens. Virtually all of whom are disappeared by masked men into unmarked cars after being subjected to entirely unconstitutional "papers please" inquiries. Those inquires are usually without proper cause, racially motivated, and in violation of multiple constitutional rights. People without any criminal history, some of whom are in the US legally, are being sent to foreign black sites for torture.

Immigration is a complex issue. The Biden administration failed spectacularly at it. We need secure borders and a controlled means of vetting and admitting people that want to come to this country. Nothing about the current operation advances any of those goals. And it's shocking to see the conservative movement, which, for as long as I've been alive, has been concerned with limited government, responsible budgets and use of force, states rights, individual liberties, free speech, etc., throw their support behind such inhumane, brutal, and catastrophically overreaching "enforcement."

We're repeating the sins of the Japanese internment camps. And there's the potential for it to become much worse.

Good faith individuals can disagree on root causes and solutions. But it beggars belief that so many people in this country have become so ideologically warped that they cannot see the clear and present danger, and evil, of this moment.
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« Reply #6454 on: January 16, 2026, 02:38:21 pm »
There’s a really good article in SLATE about the incredibly sloppy process by which ICE is hiring new officers with minimal or no vetting. Inevitably resulting in too many unqualified people placed in authority and into very challenging and now-dangerous situations for everybody on the scene. This is how a police-state originates and operates. Not doing traditional law enforcement professionals any favors in this process. ICE now has more new recruits than it has experienced officers. A recipe for disaster.
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« Reply #6455 on: January 17, 2026, 12:58:27 pm »
There are really so many bouncing balls to follow, but three months ago Vinay Prassad said the CDC had evidenced that COVID vaccines were involved I  10 children deaths and the evidenced would be released soon.  3 months later nothing has been released.  (There is no evidence)

We are also funding a no-bid Hepatitis B vaccine “study” in Africa that would be compared favorably with the Tuskegee syphilis study.  (That isn’t a comparison any researcher with ethics would want).
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« Reply #6456 on: January 25, 2026, 09:43:37 am »
Awesome they are moving to make the polio and measles vaccines completely voluntary… MAGA is anti science and brain dead.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/23/health/milhoan-vaccines-optional-polio.html
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« Reply #6457 on: January 25, 2026, 10:32:12 am »
All they can do at the federal level is either take them off the market or change them from recommended to shared decision making.  So far they have only changed it to shared decision making.

States control what vaccines are required for school and the exemptions they allow.  Outside of Florida, no other state is moving to remove the recommended vaccines.  Red states are allowing exemptions for religious reasons (no major religion has a stance on vaccines that is against them) which is basically making them voluntary.  The point is still 90+% of people vaccinate and MAGA is trying to drive that number down because having more dead and disabled kids is apparently a good thing.  The problem is for heard immunity for measles you need 95+% vaccinations rates and very few states are at that number, which is why measles cases are exploding.
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« Reply #6458 on: January 29, 2026, 11:14:48 am »
Im uninterested in engaging in political discussions much these days because greed and cruelty has devoured the soul of so many like a moral stage IV cancer.

But I will point this out: even after the killing of Alex.The killing of Renee. Even after the homicide of a detainee in TX. Even after ICE beat then tossed a 17 year old kid (working at Target) into an SUV, beat him some more and then dumped the kid in a far away parking lot. Even after ICE created their own version of the 4th amendment. Even after they've ignored judicial orders.

Robb liked wmljohns post.

That is a person who is a lost cause and should be persona non grata online and off.
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« Reply #6459 on: April 09, 2026, 05:14:52 pm »
Excellent news!

Finally a government for the people!

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