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« Reply #5175 on: December 08, 2012, 10:21:28 am »
If Dempster resigns with the Cubs, there's sumpin else going on...
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« Reply #5176 on: December 08, 2012, 01:14:44 pm »
Michael Young has been traded to the Phillies to play third base.
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« Reply #5177 on: December 08, 2012, 08:31:54 pm »
Greinke to the Dodgers for $147M.
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« Reply #5178 on: December 08, 2012, 08:43:21 pm »
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The Dodgers' payroll before Greinke was $198M, according to Cot's: http://bit.ly/XDPZcB . After Greinke, others, will exceed $225M.
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« Reply #5179 on: December 08, 2012, 08:51:08 pm »
Plus they still have to extend Kershaw.
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« Reply #5180 on: December 08, 2012, 09:15:18 pm »
Zack Greinke is a very good pitcher . . . still, there's no way I could make a 6 year commitment at that kind of money to him.

I really hope the Dodgers suck **** for the next 5 years and go bankrupt.
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« Reply #5181 on: December 09, 2012, 12:01:52 am »
Dodgers still want Sanchez as well, even if they get the Korean pitcher
  They'll make the Yankees look cheap. 
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« Reply #5182 on: December 09, 2012, 07:24:17 am »
Quote from: JR on December 08, 2012, 09:15:18 pm
Zack Greinke is a very good pitcher . . . still, there's no way I could make a 6 year commitment at that kind of money to him.

I really hope the Dodgers suck **** for the next 5 years and go bankrupt.

With that tv money, sucking is far more likely.
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« Reply #5183 on: December 09, 2012, 10:57:12 am »
Here's the thing I don't understand: where is all this TV money coming from? How is it that networks can afford to sign these kinds of deals? Has the cost of advertising shifted? Is this fueled by the increasing cost of cable subscriptions? It's not like baseball ratings are through the roof...

Without understanding the nuts and bolts if where this sudden massive influx of cash is coming from, I question the long term sustainability of this new model. More and more content is available online, and I think at some point in the not too distant future, the internet is going to be the primary vehicle of content delivery, with more and more choices being ala carte. If/when that happens, these kinds of deals can't last, can they? Has baseball always been selling itself extremely short on its TV deals? If so, why has that changed now? If not, what has caused such a dramatic increase in the value if the product?
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« Reply #5184 on: December 09, 2012, 11:03:46 am »
It will be very interesting to see what happens with the next CBA. It's clear that luxury tax amounts are soon going to be completely out of touch with the amount of money floating around. Some owners, like the Dodgers group, may thumb their noses at the "limits." Others, like Loria, will simply pocket more and more cash. The players union has to expect a massive restructuring of the labor agreements, reflecting the influx of new money. Will the owners allow it? I wouldn't be surprised if there is a strike at the next round of negotiations. With so much money at stake, both sides are going to have extreme pressure to get their way.
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« Reply #5185 on: December 09, 2012, 11:25:07 am »
Quote from: ticohans on December 09, 2012, 10:57:12 am
Here's the thing I don't understand: where is all this TV money coming from? How is it that networks can afford to sign these kinds of deals? Has the cost of advertising shifted? Is this fueled by the increasing cost of cable subscriptions? It's not like baseball ratings are through the roof...


Some of these guys figured it out that they can gouge big money in the big markets.  Sure nobody cares that much about the Dodgers outside of LA, or the Yankees outside of New York, but the fans IN those locations will pay big money to see their favorites on tv.  They won't make much off of us in Central Illinois or North Dakota or even Texas, but with new HD technology and big screens, people can sit in the comfort of their own home and even if they pay $20 a game, heck that's $250 cheaper than a ticket at the park, parking the car, and fighting traffic.  And I can microwave myself some dogs and popcorn and pull a Pepsi from my fridge cheaper, too.   Pull $20 from 100,000 fans a night...

I don't know if it costs that much now...but you wait...

Somebody who lives in one of those environs can probably give you more accurate figures.
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« Reply #5186 on: December 09, 2012, 12:14:04 pm »
2 fold on the TV money.  1st the cable channels can force their way on the basic channel set and then get the fees from each cable/dish subscriber.  Then with the DVR becoming more common, ads are watched less on regular series programming.  People tend to watch sports live, so a much higher chance the ads will get watched, so channels get higher ad rates.  Who knows how long it will continue though, I can see more programming moving to the internet.
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« Reply #5187 on: December 09, 2012, 12:18:06 pm »
The key right now is that cable subscribers are paying, say, $3 per game now, and they're paying it whether they actually watch the game or not. Many of them care no more about MLB than we care about ladies' lacrosse. As long as the major cable providers stay away from a la carte, we're getting a free ride on their backs. Not surprisingly, the major cable companies like their revenue streams, and would only switch to a la carte if it made them richer or Big Brother forced them to do it.
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« Reply #5188 on: December 09, 2012, 12:36:28 pm »
Netflix, Hulu, are already letting you get programming over the internet.  MLBTV.com gives you every game if your out of the black out areas for a year for $150-200.  There is a reason a cable company, Comcast, bought NBC.
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« Reply #5189 on: December 09, 2012, 02:08:48 pm »
Good posts, guys.

When I say $20 a game, I'm being influenced by some articles I read a year or two ago where some executives of both tv and sports franchises think this can go.  They're imagining pay per view like UFC, pro wrestling, and boxing do now. 

I could see myself buying a dozen games a year. 

I wonder if they would have different prices depending on opponent?  Cardinals, 20 bucks a pop.  Padres, how about we pay you?
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