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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #555 on: March 03, 2015, 01:42:50 pm »
Kiley McDaniel did a July 2 update.  The Cubs aren't linked to any of the top 5 guys.  Heredia, who was linked to the Cubs, is being mentioned as a likely Dodger target now.  It would be interesting to see if the Cubs are still going over or if they will hold off. 

He mentions 5 teams will likely go over, the Dodgers, Royals, Phillies, Blue Jays are mentioned in the article as likely to go over.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/july-2nd-plans-are-coming-into-focus/

It sounds like there are two very extraordinary talents in next years July 2nd class, both of whom eclipse any of the talent available in this years class. One gets Miguel Cabrera comps, the other has Piazza's name bandied about him. I wonder if the Cubs are thinking that their resources would be better spent staying within the limitations this year and still drafting a solid class, while saving the big bullets for next year.

That would man an average class this year, and the ability to go all out next, when none of the Yankees, BoSox, Dodgers, etc., can compete for the high-ceiling talent, in what is likely the last July 2 signing period.

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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #556 on: March 03, 2015, 01:57:08 pm »
I really hope the Cubs aren't the the team that has 6 guys "signed" for $7.5 million.

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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #557 on: March 03, 2015, 02:11:59 pm »
Why? 

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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #558 on: March 03, 2015, 02:29:53 pm »
Because they are the wrong 6 guys.

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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #559 on: March 03, 2015, 02:45:34 pm »
Why? 

If your going to give up high end IFA/Cuban talent for 2 years it needs to be an over whelming haul.  Heredia +6 guys and one of the Cuban pitchers would be more what I'd be looking for.  Throw in the fact that you could be the only big spending team for the 2 2016 kids it would be really tempting to wait a year.

That said the Cubs are far better at this and have more info than what I have.
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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #560 on: March 03, 2015, 03:03:49 pm »
Betting everything on how a couple of 15 year olds develop is really placing your eggs in one basket.

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« Reply #561 on: March 03, 2015, 03:24:18 pm »
I think there is a decent argument to make that avoiding the high cost 16 year old talent may be a smart thing to do and instead just sign cheap guys unless there is a Sano, Hernandez, Caberra type talent.  I'm more worried about missing 2 years of Cuban guys, because no body really knows how many Moncada/Soler type guys are on the island.

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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #562 on: March 03, 2015, 03:55:45 pm »
Seven and one half.

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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #563 on: March 03, 2015, 04:16:14 pm »
Pretty interesting Jesse Rogers interview with Addison Russell.



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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #564 on: March 03, 2015, 04:55:27 pm »
That said the Cubs are far better at this and have more info than what I have.

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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #565 on: March 03, 2015, 06:13:58 pm »
Betting everything on how a couple of 15 year olds develop is really placing your eggs in one basket.

No one is talking about betting everything on a couple of 15 year olds. What CBJ and I are saying is that it would be interesting to simply do the normal thing this year - i.e. spend millions of dollars on intl talent - and go into next year as one of the only big spenders, in a year when there is potentially more high-end talent. That doesn't preclude a great July 2 signing season this year. It just means not going into penalty land.

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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #566 on: March 03, 2015, 06:35:15 pm »
I don't remember the exact number, but I think their cap this year is about 4 million dollars.  Last year they spent about 14 million.  4 million will give them one top player or maybe 2 in the 10 to 15 range.

If they are certain that next year (2016) will be a bumper year, fine.  But as I read it, there are two "super prospects" in the batch, both of them about 15 years old.  Is it deeper next year than it is this year?  I don't know.

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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #567 on: March 03, 2015, 09:43:50 pm »
Pretty interesting Jesse Rogers interview with Addison Russell.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/chicago/play?id=12413850

Thanks for posting this.... but what about it was interesting?  I was thinking "vapid" when I was listening.

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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #568 on: March 03, 2015, 10:38:12 pm »
What do you think he could have said that you would not consider "vapid"?

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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #569 on: March 03, 2015, 11:13:24 pm »
What do you think he could have said that you would not consider "vapid"?

Who is the "he" you reference?  Rogers or Russell?

Any number of things would qualify as not being vapid, though during most of it I didn't hear any.  Most of the questions were unlikely to elicit anything else, one of my favorite examples of that was asking Russell how it felt to be Bryant's teammate.  It was worth hearing that Russell is eager to get experience at 2B and 3B and that he sounded as if he would be quite happy to play either, but other than that... not much there.