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Re: Today’s Game 2023
« Reply #885 on: January 03, 2024, 02:10:38 pm »
One side of me wants to win and knock the Pack out of the playoffs. The other side wants the best pick they can get out of the draft with a Bears loss Sunday.

Its always a beautiful day when the Pack lose.

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« Reply #886 on: January 03, 2024, 02:18:28 pm »
I wouldnt  be sad if the Bears take the best QB with the first pick in the 2024 draft. I am leary of any QB from North Carolina after Mitch. The ACC just isnt a football conference.

I wouldnt take the USC QB with our 7th round pick.

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Re: Today’s Game 2023
« Reply #887 on: January 03, 2024, 03:15:00 pm »
I wouldnt  be sad if the Bears take the best QB with the first pick in the 2024 draft. I am leary of any QB from North Carolina after Mitch. The ACC just isnt a football conference.

I wouldnt take the USC QB with our 7th round pick.

ACC is not a football conference?   Tell that to Florida St, Clemson and Miami among other teams.  No, it's not the SEC of late, but there's good football played there.

And Poles needs to be leary of any QB taken in the first round. 

I know Caleb Williams has received a lot of negative press recently but if you never saw him play and just looked at his numbers the last 3 years you'd have to be impressed.   He's the wild card of this draft.

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Re: Today’s Game 2023
« Reply #888 on: January 03, 2024, 03:21:29 pm »
Forget getting a qb. We got a couple. Get some HOF lineman, both sides.
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« Reply #889 on: January 03, 2024, 11:09:25 pm »
Screw the better pick, beat the Pack for once damn....sick of losing to them, don't care how/when, just beat them for once....
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« Reply #890 on: January 04, 2024, 05:45:11 am »
A few thoughts.  Go get Danielle Hunter and firm up both edges.  Find a FA center.   Then draft BPA, after drafting MHJ, however you do it.

What we really need is for one of the draft clas QBs to separate themselves from the pile of Williams, Maye, Penix, Daniels, Nix, McCarthy.  Does one really separate themselves, and does New England or Washington really covet that one? 

I am 100% in the Fields camp.  While Williams may have all the arm talent in the world, it concerns me when all of these stories of daddy's involvement, crying in momma's lap, rumors of wanting part team ownership, a list of teams that he will play for, etc.  Are we hearing any of this buzz around any of the other QNs in this draft class?  Step back and think about that.  Did we hear that with Young or Stroud last season?  Did we hear that with the draft class of Lawrence and Fields, Wilson, Jones, etc?  No.  Where there is smoke there is fire.  I believe there is enough circumstantial evidence around Williams that he is not a leader or well liked by his team.  Cade McNown II

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Re: Today’s Game 2023
« Reply #891 on: January 04, 2024, 07:49:42 am »
Trade the pick. Accumulate talent. Fields for another year. If he fails, blow it up and the next coach starts with a better team than any coach ever has for the Bears since maybe Lovie Smith.....
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Re: Today’s Game 2023
« Reply #892 on: January 04, 2024, 08:14:25 am »
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Does one really separate themselves, and does New England or Washington really covet that one?

What NE has to worry about is if they are dead set on one QB, the Bears trade to someone who moves up and picks that guy right before them, and they didn't want to just settle for the next guy.  They might have to move up.

What Washington has to worry about is if the Bears trade to another team and QBs go 1 & 2.  Is the third QB coming out worthy of the #3 pick in the draft?  They might have to move up.

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While Williams may have all the arm talent in the world, it concerns me when all of these stories of daddy's involvement, crying in momma's lap, rumors of wanting part team ownership, a list of teams that he will play for, etc.  Are we hearing any of this buzz around any of the other QNs in this draft class?  Step back and think about that.  Did we hear that with Young or Stroud last season?  Did we hear that with the draft class of Lawrence and Fields, Wilson, Jones, etc?  No.  Where there is smoke there is fire.  I believe there is enough circumstantial evidence around Williams that he is not a leader or well liked by his team.

Ryan Leaf & Todd Marinovich were generational, can't-miss draft picks as well, remember?
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« Reply #893 on: January 04, 2024, 11:35:39 am »
The general consensus is keep Fields and put together the best team possible. I agree. We still have Bagant. Maybe he goes nowhere, he certainly doesn't have the upside that Fields has, but who knows. If nothing else, Bagant could develop into a decent backup and buy us a little time if we had to transition away from Fields. If Fields and Bagant continue to develop, we may be in the best QB shape that we've been in for a long time.

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« Reply #894 on: January 04, 2024, 12:35:19 pm »
A few thoughts.  Go get Danielle Hunter and firm up both edges.  Find a FA center.   Then draft BPA, after drafting MHJ, however you do it.

What we really need is for one of the draft clas QBs to separate themselves from the pile of Williams, Maye, Penix, Daniels, Nix, McCarthy.  Does one really separate themselves, and does New England or Washington really covet that one? 

I am 100% in the Fields camp.  While Williams may have all the arm talent in the world, it concerns me when all of these stories of daddy's involvement, crying in momma's lap, rumors of wanting part team ownership, a list of teams that he will play for, etc.  Are we hearing any of this buzz around any of the other QNs in this draft class?  Step back and think about that.  Did we hear that with Young or Stroud last season?  Did we hear that with the draft class of Lawrence and Fields, Wilson, Jones, etc?  No.  Where there is smoke there is fire.  I believe there is enough circumstantial evidence around Williams that he is not a leader or well liked by his team.  Cade McNown II

Yeah, a big problem will be if the Commanders and Patriots are OK with who is leftover from Williams, Maye and Daniels.  Plus if they believe Chicago won't go QB or won't trade down, the Commanders can get their top choice and Pats get to choose from the remaining 2.

Recall last year Houston didn't appear to want to trade from 2 to 1.  Or maybe the Bears didn't want to trade with them figuring they could get more loot trading down to 9.

The Bears' trade down partner might be the Giants at 5.  Bears will miss out on MHJ but could get Odunze and their top edge guy (not necessarilly in that order).   Plus the Giants #2 and additional '25 draft picks.   Maybe a player too, but not quite the haul they got from Carolina going from 9 to 1.

The other problem on Monday night might be the emergence of Penix or McCarthy shooting up their draft value.  And Nix too.  Would Atlanta, Vegas, Denver and Minnesota be content waiting for these guys?

So yeah, Bears got to hope 1 guy emerges and the Bears benefit from a bidding war.   Nobody wants to get fleeced like Carolina did last year.




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Re: Today’s Game 2023
« Reply #895 on: January 04, 2024, 12:59:02 pm »
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Nobody wants to get fleeced like Carolina did last year.

I believe that Carolina got fleeced by the QB they took not the trade they made to get there.  If Carolina had drafted Stroud and the season, or even close to the season, Texas had no one would be saying they got fleeced.

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Re: Today’s Game 2023
« Reply #896 on: January 04, 2024, 02:22:20 pm »

That's my point.  Why bet so heavily on one guy when the '2nd best' guy was so much more productive?

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Re: Today’s Game 2023
« Reply #897 on: January 04, 2024, 03:59:22 pm »

 With our second first round pick who's the top ranked DE ?

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« Reply #898 on: January 04, 2024, 04:30:04 pm »
With our second first round pick who's the top ranked DE ?

 Remember : WORK ETHIC / INJURY HISTORY.

Laiatu Latu.  He had the neck injury that caused him to sit out '20 and '21 but he played full seasons in '22 and '23 at a very high level.   He's got some physical limitations and  I don't think he's head and shoulders above a couple other guys, but he's got a motor and skills to attack the QB.

In a trade down he might be the first first round pick.
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Re: Today’s Game 2023
« Reply #899 on: January 04, 2024, 07:28:39 pm »
"Forget getting a qb. We got a couple. Get some HOF lineman, both sides."

Its very true about building the trenches. I agree about that.
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