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Joe, any idea of how to fix dev's points or do we just wait a bit?

You had to reverse the trade on Monday.  Dev had too many starters with Hancock still being on his roster. 
You are down a reliever for Monday, but your roster still scored I believe.  If not I can add Sewald back. 

How would the innings caps work?

I see points from yesterday now...Thanks

How would the innings caps work?

We figure out how many cumulative innings teams can score points for over the course of a season. When you reach your innings limit, no more points scored. Innings cap would be high, a bit above historic max-level team IP accumulation to ensure no disruption to how league currently operates, but not too much higher to avoid pitcher-streaming madness. Effectively, the cap shouldn't feel like a cap - it's a safeguard to enable simpler roster management.

Then we eliminate SP/RP roles. Everyone is just a P, doesn't matter whether you're starting, closing, or somewhere in between. Completely gets around the opener stuff for the true bullpen guys, and better positions our leauge for where baseball is headed. We're likely to see more hybrid pitching roles moving forward, creating additional challenges for owners and commissioners to manage under the current roster structure.

If you want to roster 12 SP's, knock yourself out, but you'll be hurting your team because there will be better relievers available on a P/IP basis vs a team's 9th starter, for example. And you’d run into the innings cap.

CBJ has me on ignore

And how would a cap on pitching be like real MLB?  Jesus, let's just eliminate all position requirements so anyone can load up with power hitters?  Short a catcher?  Just slide Judge in there.   Sorry.  Some of you are out to destroy this league, not improve it.  This rp issue is an easy fix.  First if all, Fantrax needs to stop tagging damn near every pitcher with sp/rp labels who no longer start or when some jackass manager chooses to open with an rp.  What we've lost is a common trust for each other to do the right thing.  Frankly, I'm beginning to think some guys trying two change the rules to fit their players with strikes and innings changes will kill us.  Together with a lockout, I think we're done.

Strongly oppose any innings cap. Especially if it means cutting the strikeout penalty for hitters.  All it does is make mediocre hitters better while continue devalue pitchers. Why don’t we just change the whole league to be a 5x5 league wouldn’t that be OK? I think that would make sure that Tico gets what he wants in having a league that lines up to what national publications want players to be worth in roto ?

Strongly oppose any innings cap. Especially if it means cutting the strikeout penalty for hitters.  All it does is make mediocre hitters better while continue devalue pitchers. Why don’t we just change the whole league to be a 5x5 league wouldn’t that be OK? I think that would make sure that Tico gets what he wants in having a league that lines up to what national publications want players to be worth in roto ?

Are you willing to police peoples rosters?  Anyone willing to besides Curt? 

We haven't even posted proposed scoring changes.  You might acutually be surprised how scoring changes would still benefit the elite hitters and pitchers and devalue the mediocre hitters and pitchers.  It is fairly easy to test how the scoring changes can effect rosters, certain players, or even types of players.  I guess we can conitnue to value guys that have .600 OPS, with low strike outs and stolen bases.

And how would a cap on pitching be like real MLB?  Jesus, let's just eliminate all position requirements so anyone can load up with power hitters?  Short a catcher?  Just slide Judge in there.   Sorry.  Some of you are out to destroy this league, not improve it.  This rp issue is an easy fix.  First if all, Fantrax needs to stop tagging damn near every pitcher with sp/rp labels who no longer start or when some jackass manager chooses to open with an rp.  What we've lost is a common trust for each other to do the right thing.  Frankly, I'm beginning to think some guys trying two change the rules to fit their players with strikes and innings changes will kill us.  Together with a lockout, I think we're done.

Fantrax tags starting pitchers because of the definition of a starting pitcher for the league.  The problem is the league is using defintions for players from the 90's.

Fun fact. Again none of have seen the proposed scoring changes and it wouldn't have changed the standings.  Elite players will still be elite.  Guys with low OPS that don't stike out would be penalized.  Guys that don't stike out and have good OPS will still be really valueable.  For pitchers, elite pitchers will still be valuable.  Bad pitchers on good teams will get penalzed because wins won't be the biggest contributor to points.  Good pitchers on bad teams will be more valuabable, but no lets just assume the worse about people.  Seems fair.

The inning cap would accomplish exactly what the league attempts to limits.  Moves, using starters in relief roles, not affecting people that play by the rules.  All while not causing people to have to rat on other owners.