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« Reply #915 on: August 13, 2011, 06:14:07 pm »
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The #cubs have agreed to terms with 2nd-round pick and #florida signee dan vogelbach. Signing should be announced tonight.

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #916 on: August 13, 2011, 06:52:43 pm »
per mlbtraderumors.com Baez in the fold

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« Reply #917 on: August 13, 2011, 06:56:12 pm »
This is good.  Vogelbach can join Golden in the fat-guys-who-can't-play-baseball club.

And Baez can get some early advice from Earl Cunningham, Ty Griffin, and Mark Pawelek.

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« Reply #918 on: August 13, 2011, 07:01:18 pm »
I wasn't aware that Vogelbach couldn't play baseball.  Do you have a source for that?

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« Reply #919 on: August 13, 2011, 07:18:21 pm »
Paul Sullivan is now saying that Baez has NOT signed.

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« Reply #920 on: August 13, 2011, 07:34:45 pm »
One of them is probably right.

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #921 on: August 13, 2011, 08:25:58 pm »
I am guessing that the deal is done, but he hasn't officially inked the contract.

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #922 on: August 13, 2011, 08:45:37 pm »
Sounds reasonable.

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« Reply #923 on: August 13, 2011, 08:46:20 pm »
Callis:

Again answering several ? at once: #Cubs didn't agree w/Baez (tho I expect he will).

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #924 on: August 13, 2011, 10:20:58 pm »
Kendall Rogers of Perfect Game:


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#Cubs fourth-round pick Tony Zych of #Louisville is very much expected to sign at this point. Nothing has changed. #mlbdraft


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Yep. Crazy night. I have absolutely no doubt at this point Baez gets done. As said, source says an agreement is there. #mlbdraft

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« Reply #925 on: August 13, 2011, 11:49:20 pm »
One thing on the Cubs spending more on the draft this year.  We might be spending more, but at least on the players signed thus far, I really don't get the impression that we're getting a lot more talent than usual.

Guys like Gretzky and Schlecht were picked in the 7th or 9th rounds, because well, they weren't considered Top 5 round talents, even though they're getting paid like it. Vogelbach is getting a first round signing bonus, even though he was drafted just about where most teams thought he should go and maybe slightly above it.  DeVoss was legitimately picked in the third round, but he was able to leverage an extra $150-$200K above slot out of the Cubs.  Just honestly, it sounds like the other $200K+ signing bonus players are relatively of the same caliber as our $100-$150K bonus players the last couple of years.

I just get the feeling a lot of this money is being thrown around mostly because we have it to throw around and the agents know we have it and can bump what would normally be a $150K bonus into $225K and higher bonuses, instead of us signing players with more talent than usual.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2011, 11:54:48 pm by JR »

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #926 on: August 14, 2011, 12:15:29 am »
For several years, the Red Sox have been lauded because they consistently pay overslot money for players drafted lower down.  When the Cubs do the same thing, they are criticized.

I have no idea how good any of these guys are going to be.  Of course, neither do you.  But your underlying assumption is that Wilken is not able to identify the right players to draft.  That may be so, but if that IS so, there is little reason to analyze the draft at all, since the assumption is that if the Cubs are doing it, it is wrong.

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #927 on: August 14, 2011, 12:19:07 am »
That certainly seems to be a solid premise.

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #928 on: August 14, 2011, 12:25:32 am »
I am surprised to hear you say that, Jeff.  You have such a reputation for giving a fair and impartial analysis of every situation.

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #929 on: August 14, 2011, 12:39:57 am »
I think the overwhelming body of evidence that is the Chicago Cubs gives me a pass in this particular situation.